I love how the frothing Clinton partisans (in the media and in the comments alike) are pinning this on Millennials, who remain the most likely age group to vote for Clinton and the least likely to vote for Trump. Yep, it's all their fault.
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The Trump presidency will not be the END of CIVILIZATION. We survived Nixon, Reagan, Poppy Bush, and W. What is really disturbing is the fact that, win or lose, roughly half of the American voting public (which now sides with Trump, as they had with every prior Republican huckster) is very likely to remain gullible, ill-informed, and not even interested in being well-informed, having failed to realize that Trump is not their savior (with a core of true "deplorables"). I am once again resigned. However, maybe in a few years, after men/women have died in useless conflicts, abortion, voting, and other rights have been overturned or corrupted, and our fiscal house is once again in shambles, pretty much as it was after 8 years of W, maybe, just maybe, these people will FINALLY wake up.
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No rewards at all folks. All risk.
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Trump owes a lot of money to Russia. His son Donald Jr. admitted in a speech in 208 that there was a "disproportionate" amount of money coming from Russia into his father's real estate ventures.
That may be why he keeps kissing up to Russia and may be why he wants to be president. He wants to pay back his debt to Russia.
This, his open admiration for dictators like Putin and Kim Jung Un, his vindictiveness, his impulsivity, and his lack of knowledge about the issues make him a very dangerous candidate. He recently threatened to "blow out of the water" Iranian ships that harass US ships, which is tantamount to starting a war with Iran.
Voting for Trump gives Russian Roulette a new meaning.
That may be why he keeps kissing up to Russia and may be why he wants to be president. He wants to pay back his debt to Russia.
This, his open admiration for dictators like Putin and Kim Jung Un, his vindictiveness, his impulsivity, and his lack of knowledge about the issues make him a very dangerous candidate. He recently threatened to "blow out of the water" Iranian ships that harass US ships, which is tantamount to starting a war with Iran.
Voting for Trump gives Russian Roulette a new meaning.
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What many don't understand is that so many people are so distrustful of the "government" that they will vote for Trump just because he is not inside the government. Our government is broken and bought and has forgotten all the ideals we have been taught that the United States of America stands for. When your own government spies on you illegally, applies justice with an iron fist to individual citizens yet allows corporate crime against "the people" with no consequence; when your government holds people without charges for decades and has a drone program to murder people in other nations without oversight; when the leaders in your government accept massive money from the countries that are causing the "terrorist threat"; when your government doesn't hold to the tenets of the Geneva Convention, and despite the outrageousness of all these crimes; there are no consequences to those that committed these crimes, then you may think that the leaders of our "government" are more dangerous than a racist, misogynist, business cheating liar.
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I didn't have time to read all 3500+ comments, so maybe this has already been asked: how do the pollsters choose whom to ask & how do they conduct their polls? Is it ALL via phone? How do you get on the pollsters' lists of people to call? There have probably been hundreds of polls (maybe thousands if you include "informal" ones) taken in the last 6-12 months, yet I find it surprising that not once have I ever been called or otherwise asked to take part in a poll. Not that my one "vote" matters, but I truly wonder what this means in terms of accuracy. Are the polls just querying the same people over & over? Do pollsters ever make assumptions in some cases on how someone is likely to vote because of their demographic/etc info and then extrapolate those numbers? Whose votes count - and how (much)? Does any of it even matter in the face of the "babysitter" electoral college (which should've been abandoned ages ago, in my opinion)? I'm still voting this year, as always, and I hope my candidate wins, but it's hard to truly feel like part of the electoral process these days - ironic since we supposedly have more access to 2-way "info" than ever before (though in my view, the quality of that information has deteriorated over time in favor of quantity, loudness, attention, and "being first").
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So, what are the rewards again? Can anyone seriously listen to this man and believe anything that comes out of his mouth?
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It is true that Mr. Trump does not have any administrative experience in public office. Neither did Mr. Obama have any such experience before being sworn in as our President. However, Mr. Obama has proven to be a quick learner and to have done a fine job in terms of gaining presidential administrative experience over the next eight years. There is no indication that Mr. Trump would do any worse if elected our next President. However, Mr. Trump has one important, positive quality which neither Mr. Obama nor Hillary Clinton appears to possess: he never advocated as a private citizen any interventionist policy for the United States, such as Hillary Clinton aggressively advanced while serving as Secretary of State during Mr. Obama's first term. It was precisely because of Hillary Clinton's aggressive promotion as a key cabinet member during Mr. Obama's first term that the United States, as joined by UK, promoted an interventionist policy to get rid of Mr. Khaddafy by sending allied air force fighter jets to interdict Mr. Khaddafy and his family members from retreating from Libya, thus causing Mr. Khaddafy to fall into the rebels hands and to be openly lynched in broad daylight before a live TV audience worldwide. As reported by The New York Times in a featured report this past February, Hillary Clinton was heard saying, "We came, we saw, [Khaddafy] died." We need our next President to help make our world safer. Hillary Clinton's record shows the opposite quality.
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Safer. And Trump will do that by getting us more involved in the middle east, refusing to help allies who don't pay us protection money, leaving Japan and South Korea to protect themselves with their own nukes, threatening to blow Iran's navy out of the water, and oh yes, cozying up to Vladimir Putin.
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Must be a definition of "safer" I'm unfamiliar with.
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Must be a definition of "safer" I'm unfamiliar with.
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If Gary Johnson and Jill Stein hand this election to Donald Trump, I hope they end up in whatever special hell the self-righteous claim for themselves. (Ralph Nader will doubtless be saving them a seat.)
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This is what we get from the Times? Donald Trump, agent of change.
I've about had it with you guys. This doesn't belong on the front page. This doesn't belong in a bad newspaper, let alone the Mighty NYTimes. We don't really need to understand Trump supporters, we need facts. Where are his tax returns? Given Constitutional constraints how will he go about ridding the country of the millions undocumented? Will the corps hired to rid us of these almost entirely hard working peaceful people wear brown shirts? Who do we inform to. Will there be a hotline? Will he deport the judge? Scheiderman? Stay tuned boys and girls, Agent of change on the Horizon.
I've about had it with you guys. This doesn't belong on the front page. This doesn't belong in a bad newspaper, let alone the Mighty NYTimes. We don't really need to understand Trump supporters, we need facts. Where are his tax returns? Given Constitutional constraints how will he go about ridding the country of the millions undocumented? Will the corps hired to rid us of these almost entirely hard working peaceful people wear brown shirts? Who do we inform to. Will there be a hotline? Will he deport the judge? Scheiderman? Stay tuned boys and girls, Agent of change on the Horizon.
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"the challenge from third-party candidates may make a difference." in the race
Some 15-20% are supporting Johnson and Green.
But have those supporters really checked the positions of these candidates or are they voting for them just because they are not Clinton or Trump?
Some Johnson positions that I find disturbing:
- He doesn't believe in ANY kind of gun control. ("restricting guns makes things less safe, that's the camp that I'm in," he said"
- He wants to privatize Social Security.
- He's against Obamacare or any other government intervention in health care like single payer.
- He wants to increase retirement age to 75 (which may be Ok for white collar workers behind a desk, but not good for workers doing heavy manual labor. Also poor workers and minorities have a shorter life span and are bound to collect less, if any. SS benefits if they have to wait until 75
And Green lost me when I heard she questions vaccination, although she's a doctor. Another science denying doctor like Carson?
Some 15-20% are supporting Johnson and Green.
But have those supporters really checked the positions of these candidates or are they voting for them just because they are not Clinton or Trump?
Some Johnson positions that I find disturbing:
- He doesn't believe in ANY kind of gun control. ("restricting guns makes things less safe, that's the camp that I'm in," he said"
- He wants to privatize Social Security.
- He's against Obamacare or any other government intervention in health care like single payer.
- He wants to increase retirement age to 75 (which may be Ok for white collar workers behind a desk, but not good for workers doing heavy manual labor. Also poor workers and minorities have a shorter life span and are bound to collect less, if any. SS benefits if they have to wait until 75
And Green lost me when I heard she questions vaccination, although she's a doctor. Another science denying doctor like Carson?
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Trump offers "big rewards"? Are you kidding me? What rewards could there possibly be in electing an unqualified egomaniac to the highest office in the land. The right-wing is driven by nothing but hate; hate of Obama, hate of the "other", hate of anyone who does not subscribe to the right-wing orthodoxy. Look quick or you will miss the sight of this country sliding into the sewer.
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Freedom? From: theiving banks, wallstreet, going to jail for being unable to afford the most expensive item in my budget, that isn't in my budget, can't afford it, if I could, I'd rather have the freedom to choose to buy a better home or newer car.
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What change would he bring? World War 3? More severe climate? Racism? Transparency - he refuses to release his tax returns? More Trump Universities?
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This story and 100s like it just blow my mind. How could more people think that Donald Trump would handle our economy better than HRC! His business acumen is questionable at best (4-5 bankruptcies, putting his own debt in a company and then later bankrupting it). Is he going to do the same shady business with our ECONOMY.
This race is an embarrassment to our country and to our friends around the world. It is also an indictment on the number of people in our country that listen and BELIEVE his "say whatever he wants, true or not" strategy. For example, how could hard core Christians vote for a man with his character and his statements such as he has NEVER asked God for forgiveness, or his outright bigotry.... and on and on. Just sayin!
This race is an embarrassment to our country and to our friends around the world. It is also an indictment on the number of people in our country that listen and BELIEVE his "say whatever he wants, true or not" strategy. For example, how could hard core Christians vote for a man with his character and his statements such as he has NEVER asked God for forgiveness, or his outright bigotry.... and on and on. Just sayin!
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It came as a big shock to me yesterday when I read that in a new CNN poll, 15% more Americans find Donald more honest and trustworthy than Hillary.
Everyday the man lies, and he's more honest?
Just today he ended the birther lie after 5 year of propagating it, and he started a new lie that it was Hillary's fault.
Everyday the man lies, and he's more honest?
Just today he ended the birther lie after 5 year of propagating it, and he started a new lie that it was Hillary's fault.
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The economy works best when it's "handled" the least. Its a natural occurance of people swapping what they don't want/need to someone who does for something they do want/need. Third party intrusion f's things up straightaway by requiring payment from both parties, slowing or even eliminating the process. When a deal is made, both parties are less well off than they would have been had they had the free right to contract with one another, unencumbered. Control freaks in charge (and, fundamentally, that's what 99%politicians are) oppress everyone and don't care. They are the real deplorables and oppressors of all men(and women, for you pc freaks, kids, too)
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This race underscores a continuing trend: our federal representation is increasingly meaningless. Soon, we will be a nation of city/states. As the industry of innovation and its educated minions return to our big cities, it’s the mayors, not the senators, not the governors, who will drive the curriculum on everything from climate change, to transportation, ed reform, immigration and so on . . .
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Your meaning of "federal representation is unclear, the people, as a whole, are certainly largely ignored by the fed, while the fed itself is represented everywhere, even in the smallest town's grammar school bathrooms.
City states, is what we would be without any fed, say if the south had won the civil war. We would be like Europe, state lines becoming borders with some xonflicts, no doubt.
Surely we'd have been little help to the world in ww2. Seems we're d'd if we do, and if we dont, these days, but globalization should occur automatically by those sharing borders having agreements, 2 parties at a time to ensure the people representation, (just theoretically, it's too late now, maybe in the world's next life) not from the top levels of power making deals that enrich themselves. Oh, well
City states, is what we would be without any fed, say if the south had won the civil war. We would be like Europe, state lines becoming borders with some xonflicts, no doubt.
Surely we'd have been little help to the world in ww2. Seems we're d'd if we do, and if we dont, these days, but globalization should occur automatically by those sharing borders having agreements, 2 parties at a time to ensure the people representation, (just theoretically, it's too late now, maybe in the world's next life) not from the top levels of power making deals that enrich themselves. Oh, well
Trump is good on economics? Whose, his or the country`s? Has he had to fight poverty, stay employed, look for a job?
I shudder at a Trump presidency. :(
I shudder at a Trump presidency. :(
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"War" on poverty, as the one on drugs, is a total failure, just as the one to save the planet will be, because these wars functions are only to rake in taxpayer money. You've been played and still are.
Open your eyes and mind to the obvious realities of life and join your fellow citizens to search for real, workable, practicle solutions to our wonderful nations problems, they all stem from DC. (the problems, consistently never the solutions)
Open your eyes and mind to the obvious realities of life and join your fellow citizens to search for real, workable, practicle solutions to our wonderful nations problems, they all stem from DC. (the problems, consistently never the solutions)
That anyone believes the same person who created and then denied the birther blah, blah could is not pulling the 35 million new jobs out of his own hot air is astounding. As President Obama says, "And this man says he is your friend?"
Under the Obama presidency 15 million new jobs have been created, so Trump just upped that to an imaginary figure, 25 million.
Under the Obama presidency 15 million new jobs have been created, so Trump just upped that to an imaginary figure, 25 million.
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Hillary was first, not Trunp, so, misinformed/propadandized
2 Who cares what Obama says, he's a political hack/ liar like the rest
2 Who cares what Obama says, he's a political hack/ liar like the rest
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"Risk vs. Rewards" concept cannot be reviewed without considering "Exit Strategy". Risking Trump in White House means the country is locked in for next at least 4 years; longer if one factors in recovery time from the aftermath he will likely create.
Trump has alarming shallowness to appreciate the complexities of modern day economics or diplomatic maneuvering necessary on the world stage. He thinks of every problem simplistically and his solutions almost always involve bullying. His short term planning is what will he do for lunch; long term planning stops at dinner the same evening.
Trump's vehement denial to share his tax returns with the public points to one or more of the following possibilities: He is not paying a fair percentage of taxes, not giving fair share to charities as he claims, his profits are low and liabilities are high, or has questionable ties with foreign entities. Any one of the reasons above ties directly to his lack of ability to make sound decision to lead and govern the country.
Solely on the point of "Risk vs. Rewards", Clinton may not yield more rewards, but the risks are low. Trump brings near certain likelihood of disaster on multiple fronts. Domestic unrest due to his racially charged, divisive, bigoted approach will be a bonus with Trump.
The vote in favor of Clinton is a "survivalist" choice for the US.
Trump has alarming shallowness to appreciate the complexities of modern day economics or diplomatic maneuvering necessary on the world stage. He thinks of every problem simplistically and his solutions almost always involve bullying. His short term planning is what will he do for lunch; long term planning stops at dinner the same evening.
Trump's vehement denial to share his tax returns with the public points to one or more of the following possibilities: He is not paying a fair percentage of taxes, not giving fair share to charities as he claims, his profits are low and liabilities are high, or has questionable ties with foreign entities. Any one of the reasons above ties directly to his lack of ability to make sound decision to lead and govern the country.
Solely on the point of "Risk vs. Rewards", Clinton may not yield more rewards, but the risks are low. Trump brings near certain likelihood of disaster on multiple fronts. Domestic unrest due to his racially charged, divisive, bigoted approach will be a bonus with Trump.
The vote in favor of Clinton is a "survivalist" choice for the US.
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Refusal to share private records required by US Gestapo bother you, but refusal to produce evidence demanded by congress is ok, what a hypocrite
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ENOUGH! On January 20th, 2017 either Clinton or Trump will take the oath of office, why are we still talking about President Obama's birthplace? How is that relevant to the issues that plague our nation? Does Hillary's medical record contain the secret formula to a perfect healthcare system? Is Trump's tax return going to increase our economic growth? NO, not really.
Trump has been playing on people's need to believe and their fantasies to create a cult like following. He makes Donald Trump the focal point, offers vague, but full of promise solutions, emphasizing enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. He controls the topic options and gets the media along with everyone else to play with the cards he deals. Hillary keeps putting out fires and isolating herself, she's gotten comfortable, and thinks her work is done.
They're both secretive, shady even; Trump won't release his tax returns, and God only knows what wikileaks has in store, so in the meantime can we please shift our focus to the real issues? To test their political acumen, the stage must be set for a strong debate, where without the aid of teleprompters, over enthusiastic supporters, and the day to day shenanigans the candidates are pressed for concrete answers; that will give us the insight we need to determine who is best suited to lead us.
Trump has been playing on people's need to believe and their fantasies to create a cult like following. He makes Donald Trump the focal point, offers vague, but full of promise solutions, emphasizing enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. He controls the topic options and gets the media along with everyone else to play with the cards he deals. Hillary keeps putting out fires and isolating herself, she's gotten comfortable, and thinks her work is done.
They're both secretive, shady even; Trump won't release his tax returns, and God only knows what wikileaks has in store, so in the meantime can we please shift our focus to the real issues? To test their political acumen, the stage must be set for a strong debate, where without the aid of teleprompters, over enthusiastic supporters, and the day to day shenanigans the candidates are pressed for concrete answers; that will give us the insight we need to determine who is best suited to lead us.
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Re the picture under "Voters' View of a Donald Trump"
My God, look at the size of that goiter hanging from Trump's throat.
My God, look at the size of that goiter hanging from Trump's throat.
It is astonishinh how gullible Trump voters are.
"I will ban Islam!" Not possible.
"I will create 25 million manufacturing jobs by wavng my tiny little hands!" This is more than double the n umbrr of such jobs which presently exist; they are going to decline not increase, regardless of what anyone does or trade policies due to automation. Trump is selling you snake oil.
"I will decrease taxes!" Only the rich he will, if you look at his "proposals" which indicate Trump's mathematics education did not take him past the 2nd grade.
"I will force Mexico to pay for my 25 billion wall and its 25 billion annual costs!" The wall is not economically feasible, mexico would not pay for it, and walls would not keep anyone out unless we are going to employ an army to man every mile of this 1000 mile monstrosity whose only function would be to make us feel warm inside. Are we somehow going to make Mexico pay for security at the wall too? The whole idea is delusional fantasy.
"I am capable of transmuting my bowel movements into solid gold; that is why I use so much of it in my tawdry construction projects!" The average Trump voter has such difficulty with being critical that they would surely believe this too.
"I will ban Islam!" Not possible.
"I will create 25 million manufacturing jobs by wavng my tiny little hands!" This is more than double the n umbrr of such jobs which presently exist; they are going to decline not increase, regardless of what anyone does or trade policies due to automation. Trump is selling you snake oil.
"I will decrease taxes!" Only the rich he will, if you look at his "proposals" which indicate Trump's mathematics education did not take him past the 2nd grade.
"I will force Mexico to pay for my 25 billion wall and its 25 billion annual costs!" The wall is not economically feasible, mexico would not pay for it, and walls would not keep anyone out unless we are going to employ an army to man every mile of this 1000 mile monstrosity whose only function would be to make us feel warm inside. Are we somehow going to make Mexico pay for security at the wall too? The whole idea is delusional fantasy.
"I am capable of transmuting my bowel movements into solid gold; that is why I use so much of it in my tawdry construction projects!" The average Trump voter has such difficulty with being critical that they would surely believe this too.
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Childishly oversimplified denial of fact
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Gullible is believing anything coming from either party, TRUMP 2016
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Strange that someone with the pseudonym Guccifer pulls back the curtain on the wizard and shows that the Operation is exactly what she rails against. To wit: she's so obsessed with power and money that she'll go to great lengths to protect her true thoughts from the voting public. Slowly but surely, her lies grow, so much so that she's lost the ability to tell the truth. Her most truthful moment these last 12 months were her 'deplorable' comment. She feels and thinks this in her heart; she spoke truth as she sees it. Sadly the Democratic party, through back room planning, ensured that she'd be their candidate. Bernie Sanders truly scared the party, just like Trump scares the GOP leadership.
What is deplorable to me is that this candidate, the one General Powell describes accurately as someone with a long track record of lying, deception and greed is the standard bearer for the Democratic party. What is deplorable to me is feckless leadership in once great cities like Chicago and Baltimore whose policies are getting people shot and killed at record pace. What is deplorable to me are lawless mayors who suddenly feel empowered to ignore federal law and release illegal aliens who commit a felony without notifying INS.
What is deplorable to me is that this candidate, the one General Powell describes accurately as someone with a long track record of lying, deception and greed is the standard bearer for the Democratic party. What is deplorable to me is feckless leadership in once great cities like Chicago and Baltimore whose policies are getting people shot and killed at record pace. What is deplorable to me are lawless mayors who suddenly feel empowered to ignore federal law and release illegal aliens who commit a felony without notifying INS.
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It will spread throughout the country if Hillary is boss
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All true, too bad saying it that makes you a racist, therefore your opinion is of no value, but take consolation in the fact that no one else's does either
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For people who claim to thrive on self-sufficiency and independence, Republicans seem to place too much stock on a Father Figure who they hope -- despite the evidence -- will take over the Government and make their lives better. Whatever happened to those bootstraps?
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If the money flow from our pockets to others can't be stopped by someone like cruz, we will gladly start programs that return that $ back to us, the proper owners
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Emporer God-Trump is everyone's daddy.
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The last time the country took a chance on someone who had a reputation for ignorance to guide the country, that was GWB, we ended up being mired in the Iraq war that put a giant dent in the economy, stirred up hatred for the US and worsened radical Islamists' hatred for the US, and ended up in the Great Recession.
Donald Trump has been described even by many members of his own party as being ignorant on questions of foreign affairs, national security, and the economy. Many experts in these fields have voiced their objection to the US taking a chance on Trump running the country, something he is clearly not qualified to do.
Even Mitch McConnell has said, "It's pretty obvious he doesn't know a lot about the issues."
Trump himself repeatedly praised dictators like Putin and Kim Jung Un and has done something extremely dangerous, that is, ask Russia to spy on the United States.
He also has proven to be impulsive. This can be very dangerous. Once recent example was when Trump indicated he would "shoot out of the water" Iranian ships if they harrassed US ships. Shooting them out of the water would essentially start a war with Iran.
The question is, do we want to risk the chance of having somebody as ignorant and dangerous as Trump to lead the country? Are we prepared to deal with Nuclear War? That's what we are in for. Are you ready for it?
Donald Trump has been described even by many members of his own party as being ignorant on questions of foreign affairs, national security, and the economy. Many experts in these fields have voiced their objection to the US taking a chance on Trump running the country, something he is clearly not qualified to do.
Even Mitch McConnell has said, "It's pretty obvious he doesn't know a lot about the issues."
Trump himself repeatedly praised dictators like Putin and Kim Jung Un and has done something extremely dangerous, that is, ask Russia to spy on the United States.
He also has proven to be impulsive. This can be very dangerous. Once recent example was when Trump indicated he would "shoot out of the water" Iranian ships if they harrassed US ships. Shooting them out of the water would essentially start a war with Iran.
The question is, do we want to risk the chance of having somebody as ignorant and dangerous as Trump to lead the country? Are we prepared to deal with Nuclear War? That's what we are in for. Are you ready for it?
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Quoting Rebublican elites, who have btrayed us and time and time again completely ineffective. We have rejected our party to join Bernie's much needed political revolution, you are the sellouts, having been slapped down and now have returned to lick the master's shoes, pathetic
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Better get ready for the eventuality, no matter what happens.
You are one of a minority of those who only contemplate it, the majority have no stomach for even seriously considering it. A few, like myself know for certain, cuz it's already begun
You are one of a minority of those who only contemplate it, the majority have no stomach for even seriously considering it. A few, like myself know for certain, cuz it's already begun
Doug, I respect your opinion regarding Bernie Sanders, who does have good ideas. I understand that Hillary may be more hawkish than Sanders, but she has had experience and knowledge and is much more qualified than Trump to run the country. Trump would be an unmitigated disaster.
Consider your choice. You have the choice of doing something to prevent Trump from winning the race. Our country and the world desperately need to prevent that disaster from happening. Please help us all. Don't do anything that will help Trump get control of the nuclear codes.
Consider your choice. You have the choice of doing something to prevent Trump from winning the race. Our country and the world desperately need to prevent that disaster from happening. Please help us all. Don't do anything that will help Trump get control of the nuclear codes.
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Voters who are putting their faith and hope in Donald Trump are going to be very disappointed. He is promising jobs but how does he plan to provide the millions of jobs he is promising when his own businesses are using foreign countries and foreign labor to produce the products he sells. I think people who plan to vote for Trump had better start reading about him and his life and his accomplishments or non-accomplishments depending on how you view them. I suspect his followers attend rallies and see the big man and listen to what he has to say which is in most part fiction and are charmed by him. Believe me when I say that this is all theater, not reality. educate yourself as to who this man really is and how he has lived his life and is living his life. Read about Trump University as one example.
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That would require his supporters to have the ability to read.
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It's really not so much about Trump as it is about stopping the political class oppressi,g the middle class and their pro globalization goals that will shred the rights of the people
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"Risky and bold," like choosing to eat Taco Bell before an important social event.
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There are no rewards to a Trump presidency.
Burning down the house leaves you homeless.
He is a conscienceless self-promoter with no soul, only greed and readiness to exploit anyone who buys into his con, haters and all.
Burning down the house leaves you homeless.
He is a conscienceless self-promoter with no soul, only greed and readiness to exploit anyone who buys into his con, haters and all.
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If the house is full of rats and roaches, snakes and scorpions, and by rules made by the snakes fumigation is outlawed by EPA, maybe this is our only option, sure feels like our last chance to not be over run by anti Americans
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Stupid Basket of Deplorables! Stay home and don't vote, and because of your naivety, you and your ilk will ruin on purpose this country just as you did during 2010, 2014, and the 2000s. Stop watching Fixed Noise propaganda coolaid. Stop smoking so called medical marijuana and grow up! Fortunately, President Obama and soon to be President Hillary Clinton are thee adults in the room and you and yours must stay home and change your diapers and not vote. You and your ilk already have ruined this nation by voting for illegal war criminal Bush administration and now because of your arrogance and unAmerican unpatriotic views, you are planning on doing it again. No thanks. Just as after the 2004 election with unfortunately war criminal Bush winning again, there was an English magazine that said "How Can 59million People Be So Stupid." Let's not do that again! Remember how the middle east was destroyed intentionally because of Bushie and republican'ts?! And YES, climate change IS REAL and no wonder we REAL Americans don't want you anywhere near a voting booth. More than enough intentional destruction has been put onto this country not to mention this earth because of you and your ilk.
Tell all you know to vote ONLY Democrat 2016 and shove the Deplorables and the corporations and their ilk including Republican'ts so far down that they will never recover and end up in the trash heap of history where they belong.
Tell all you know to vote ONLY Democrat 2016 and shove the Deplorables and the corporations and their ilk including Republican'ts so far down that they will never recover and end up in the trash heap of history where they belong.
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''Politics is the last resort for the scoundrels'', opined George Bernard Shaw. Both the current front line presidential contenders have some semblance of what was depicted in this adage. Adulators are on both sides of the aisle. Having observed that, many may not stomach the fact that Trump stands a good chance of becoming the next POTUS. That scenario seems quite Gothic, and it has the capacity to turn quite a few into doleful and lugubrious souls at the same time. Quite caliginous, it can be!
Despite being a Yale law grad., and contrary to expectations, Hillary still is scrambling to placate and appease the voters by presenting herself as a less intolerable alternative, at the most. Given her eventful and possibly unscrupulous history of alleged scandals, prevarications, and devious deeds, according to some, it appears she has to tread on a path, riddled with landmines of severe reprobations, laid by a significant number of principled persons. And therefore, she has to come up with a wrought iron rapprochement towards her cynics and squeamish critics. That will, less likely, be breezy for her.
Trump, after emerging the victor, thanks to his tenacious tactics of temper tantrums, seems to be gaining ground at an alarming pace. Unless Hillary can execute something like a Coup D'etat, with killer and disemboweling debating skills, It may be an uphill task for her to outwit Trump.
Moderators! Roll up your sleeves and launch a boomerang of sorts.
Despite being a Yale law grad., and contrary to expectations, Hillary still is scrambling to placate and appease the voters by presenting herself as a less intolerable alternative, at the most. Given her eventful and possibly unscrupulous history of alleged scandals, prevarications, and devious deeds, according to some, it appears she has to tread on a path, riddled with landmines of severe reprobations, laid by a significant number of principled persons. And therefore, she has to come up with a wrought iron rapprochement towards her cynics and squeamish critics. That will, less likely, be breezy for her.
Trump, after emerging the victor, thanks to his tenacious tactics of temper tantrums, seems to be gaining ground at an alarming pace. Unless Hillary can execute something like a Coup D'etat, with killer and disemboweling debating skills, It may be an uphill task for her to outwit Trump.
Moderators! Roll up your sleeves and launch a boomerang of sorts.
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America needs a new and different form of government. We no longer live in the Post-WWII era. This entire election cycle has exposed every single deficiency about the present American system of an allegedly "democratic republic."
We desperately need Third Parties. We desperately need coalitions and true coalition government. We have to get rid of the Red/Blue, Blue/Red axis. Both Democrats and Republicans are as old and worn and tired out and ragged as the nation.
A two party Congress has stolen our country from its citizens. This country belongs to its citizens -- NOT to its House, NOT to its Senate, NOT to its President, NOT to its SCOTUS. We are not beholden to our so-called politicians; they are beholden to us.
If Mr. Trump can change and put an end to this entire corrupt, toxic, cancerous, dishonest and evil system, then more power to him. Somebody needs to dismantle Washington, D. C. The reason America is in the messy stagnant rut that it is in today is because the same old, same old has existed for 50 years too long. America has not evolved; it has rotted away.
We desperately need Third Parties. We desperately need coalitions and true coalition government. We have to get rid of the Red/Blue, Blue/Red axis. Both Democrats and Republicans are as old and worn and tired out and ragged as the nation.
A two party Congress has stolen our country from its citizens. This country belongs to its citizens -- NOT to its House, NOT to its Senate, NOT to its President, NOT to its SCOTUS. We are not beholden to our so-called politicians; they are beholden to us.
If Mr. Trump can change and put an end to this entire corrupt, toxic, cancerous, dishonest and evil system, then more power to him. Somebody needs to dismantle Washington, D. C. The reason America is in the messy stagnant rut that it is in today is because the same old, same old has existed for 50 years too long. America has not evolved; it has rotted away.
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Now you are one of the few that really sees that our problems have been caused by and large by the arrogance and power addiction of both parties.
"Welcome to the party, pal!"
"Welcome to the party, pal!"
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Trump's Achilles Heel may be his learning disability, LD. I believe that he his confusion about fact and fiction, truth and lying is related to a serious learning disability he has. This impairs his judgment.
How can Trump be expected to make wise choices with LD?
I hope that Clinton will zero in on this, during the debates and afterward.
Trump can soften his positions. He can release his tax returns, and voters will be more attracted to him. But if they realize that his judgment is impaired by a learning disability, LD, they might turn away from him. His personal history shows a lack of intelligent judgment.
"A leopard cannot change its spots." Mr. Trump
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How can Trump be expected to make wise choices with LD?
I hope that Clinton will zero in on this, during the debates and afterward.
Trump can soften his positions. He can release his tax returns, and voters will be more attracted to him. But if they realize that his judgment is impaired by a learning disability, LD, they might turn away from him. His personal history shows a lack of intelligent judgment.
"A leopard cannot change its spots." Mr. Trump
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The biggest risk the country faces is Hillary Clinton's pay to play culture gets entrenched in Washington for 4 years and access to political favors is sold off to the highest bidders for hefty profits.
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Not to mention nights in the Lincoln Bedroom. Wonder how much the rent will be in 2017 dollars. And I hope the china/furniture inventory is up to date.
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When people quote polls such as
"In a 4 way race, Hillary and Trump are tied, Johnson is a 8% and Stein...."
They should also place an asterisk "*Not including Millennials or independent voters"
Otherwise Johnson would be over 20%....and we can't have people thinking that there is a third viable option....now can we?
"In a 4 way race, Hillary and Trump are tied, Johnson is a 8% and Stein...."
They should also place an asterisk "*Not including Millennials or independent voters"
Otherwise Johnson would be over 20%....and we can't have people thinking that there is a third viable option....now can we?
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Mellinials probably won't vote, sorry, historical fact, too busy/selfish
If you want to get to the truth, and the lies why not subject both to the dreaded lie detector test? I think it should be required for all candidates aspiring for the country to put their trust in to. I think every politician will be a liar so to the victor goes the spoils. Will it only be a test of who said the most aggregious lie?
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Why not? Because polygraphs are pseudoscientific. Any other questions?
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Meh, if you believe your own lies and there's evidence that trump actually believes his many, many lies the respondent really didn't give the normal physiological responses that, well, normal people do.
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And drug tests, both regularly, and cameras and mikes everywhere they go, why should they have private meetings/arrangements. If they want privacy, let em get a real job, like the rest of us
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If you want someone who will shake up Washington, without the risk of an outsized ego starting a world war or internal repression, vote for JILL STEIN, and other Green Party candidates.
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In the 2000 election, those who voted their "conscience" by voting for Nader are the ones who effectively put Bush into office.
Did you learn nothing in that election? Please find another way to voice your principles that don't put the nation (and the world) at risk.
Did you learn nothing in that election? Please find another way to voice your principles that don't put the nation (and the world) at risk.
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Please, understand: a third party candidate has no possibility of being elected and wastes a vote for the major nominee. Surel, you favor your self-image singularity in this but it is damaging to a workable solution
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YES!
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It's really amazing how the Times censors comments. Hiding your heads under the covers isn't going to change the facts on the ground of this election. You backed a fatally flawed candidate, rammed her down our throats with your censorship of alternate views and suppression of anything but negativity about Senator Sanders. Of course the DNC and MSNBC helped. You have sown the wind, now you will reap the whirlwind. And it is going to blow us all away.
My earlier comment about Thomas Frank's latest book, 'Listen Liberal' did not use profanity, did not call anyone names, it only pointed out the hypocrisy of wealthy, well-paid liberal "professionals" who have watered down the Democratic Party until there is nothing left in it of the old FDR/Truman/Johnson era. Yet I do not see that comment anywhere. Are you an arm of Clinton's campaign or a newspaper? Why are you so afraid of allowing a true sampling of opinions?
My earlier comment about Thomas Frank's latest book, 'Listen Liberal' did not use profanity, did not call anyone names, it only pointed out the hypocrisy of wealthy, well-paid liberal "professionals" who have watered down the Democratic Party until there is nothing left in it of the old FDR/Truman/Johnson era. Yet I do not see that comment anywhere. Are you an arm of Clinton's campaign or a newspaper? Why are you so afraid of allowing a true sampling of opinions?
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I know , they are censoring mine all the time, this is a free press, really. I'm voting for trump
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It's shocking that so many voters have not discerned the kind of change Mr. Trump would bring to Washington. He would not improve the lives of the poor and/or unemployed, women, small business people and religious or ethnic minorities. Nor do they seem to understand that Mrs. Clinton is and has been an agent for change her whole life. She took on the issue of health insurance in the 1990s, when "everyone" was against it. She worked for her constituents in NY and for the country as Secretary of State. Her work consists of incremental change, not a big splash. It's not "sexy," but it's productive. During this campaign, she has worked to unite the country as Mr. Trump drives wedges between us. She has experience and knows what she's talking about, while Mr. Trump continuously shows he doesn't know the basics, such as Russia invading Crimea and Ukraine two years ago. It's incredible that these people will stick with a known bigot, racist, misogynistic conspiracy theorist. Vote on the facts, not the rumors.
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You are the one confused. Our government's function is not to improve our lives.
They are to protect us and our way of life from outsiders, period. And if Clinton has been agent of change, she is either for wrong kind of change or ineffective, either way, time to retire and leave us alone, we have had all of the lying Clinton's we can stomach
They are to protect us and our way of life from outsiders, period. And if Clinton has been agent of change, she is either for wrong kind of change or ineffective, either way, time to retire and leave us alone, we have had all of the lying Clinton's we can stomach
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If they do vote Trump they'll regret it in the morning, just like enough of the British electorate for Brexit to have gone the other way
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Propaganda, truth is those who voted for bexit are like Bernie voters, it's never gonna happen. Voting is a delusional excersize to placate the masses, the elites do their will regardless of voters opinions
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Big risks? There is only assured disaster. He doesn't even have to do one thing except get elected for the world to cut off credit to the US. Some ignorant people say "we have borrowed enough". That is household thinking which has no linkage to how the real world works. If we can't pay the bills we have incurred, we will suffer a cascade of financial ruin and won't be able to recover. How would you like having to fight for groceries?
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All that is inevitable
It is unbelievable that the NYT states that many people feel that Trump "lacks the temperament and values" to be president. That is like saying many people think that the color black is really "off-white." No, most of us believe that he is an ignorant, dangerous lunatic that would put America, and perhaps the world, in great danger.
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Aren't we and the world in great danger
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Trump is a con man, a huckster, a meglomaniac narcissist and a bully. Like all bullies he is a coward. He avoids any situation where he can be confronted on his lies, exaggerations, and conspiracy theories. He has played to the worst instincts in people: racism, nativism, sexism, homophobia, Isalmophobia, and more. He has allowed disgusting tropes to be uttered in public without embarrassment. This is deplorable as is the fact that his supporters cheer it. This should not be a part of civil public discourse. Hillary Clinton has her faults but on her worst day multiple times more capable of being President than Trump on his very best day. To quote Mary McCarthy "every word (s)he says is a lie including and and the". Now he has played the media in a 30 minute ad for himself promoted as an announcement about President Obama's birth. The live air time would not have been afforded had this been known. Then one sentence. He has falsely asserted that Clinton began this and that he ended it. He did not open himself to questions about this. I have run out of words to describe this odious man. He takes up all the air in the room. We have to stop paying so much attention to his every utterance and begin to challenge his exaggerations and lies.
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I fully agree. Please read this, everyone!
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Think back to the Republican primary. It was considered deplorable behavior and the public shocked. The other candidates did not know how to counteract someone playing by his own rules and it became the “new normal”.
The situation is similar with the two nominees. As much as Trump may try, he is still the same. But it no longer shocks. Plus, we are fully in the mode where perception is reality. Facts do not matter. All statements are reported as plausible thanks in part to social media.
Voters are fed up with government grid lock. This was the basis for the Tea Party. Voters continue to look for change. Clinton does not represent change in much of the public’s eye. She’s the old guard. What Clinton does represent is the sum total of all the accusations and innuendo said of her. It all sticks.
Trump’s rhetoric and attitude are acceptable. In fact, this has become an asset and shows someone willing to take on established positions. Very little negative sticks to Trump since the bar and standards have been set lower by voters desensitized through the nomination process.
The first debate sets another bar. Trump succeeds by not making a huge gaffe. Anything less is expected and acceptable. Hillary represents the establishment, warts and all magnified to represent what is wrong with our government, regardless of party. While perception is reality now, reality itself happens after the election. That’s what concerns me the most.
The situation is similar with the two nominees. As much as Trump may try, he is still the same. But it no longer shocks. Plus, we are fully in the mode where perception is reality. Facts do not matter. All statements are reported as plausible thanks in part to social media.
Voters are fed up with government grid lock. This was the basis for the Tea Party. Voters continue to look for change. Clinton does not represent change in much of the public’s eye. She’s the old guard. What Clinton does represent is the sum total of all the accusations and innuendo said of her. It all sticks.
Trump’s rhetoric and attitude are acceptable. In fact, this has become an asset and shows someone willing to take on established positions. Very little negative sticks to Trump since the bar and standards have been set lower by voters desensitized through the nomination process.
The first debate sets another bar. Trump succeeds by not making a huge gaffe. Anything less is expected and acceptable. Hillary represents the establishment, warts and all magnified to represent what is wrong with our government, regardless of party. While perception is reality now, reality itself happens after the election. That’s what concerns me the most.
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Sorry, the basis for the Tea Party was directly related to we had a black president.
Period.
Period.
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Brilliant insights clearly and compellingly expressed. Please read, everyone!
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Sorry, your assertion was not why the Tea Party was formed. No matter. My points are regarding why we are where we are.
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It will remain a mystery to me for a very long time why over 40% of voters would even consider Trump for the job. Quite frankly, the list of why he scares me is longer than the column length of this article.
I do not accept that Clinton is not a 'transformative' candidate. Her public service interests tell me she wants a more even playing field for all Americans. Her work for children tells me she cares more about others. On the other hand, Trump's ranting's, his business dealings, his love of himself above all else and his tactics and questionable ethics tell me he doesn't have the commitment to being president or the attention span it would take to do a good job. He thinks it's all about deals. I think statesmanship and basic knowledge of the constitution, foreign policy, trade and other things are more important to the job.
A man who spouts nonsense, belittles 'weaker' among us and lacks empathy is just an empty suit, not a leader of the free world.
I do not accept that Clinton is not a 'transformative' candidate. Her public service interests tell me she wants a more even playing field for all Americans. Her work for children tells me she cares more about others. On the other hand, Trump's ranting's, his business dealings, his love of himself above all else and his tactics and questionable ethics tell me he doesn't have the commitment to being president or the attention span it would take to do a good job. He thinks it's all about deals. I think statesmanship and basic knowledge of the constitution, foreign policy, trade and other things are more important to the job.
A man who spouts nonsense, belittles 'weaker' among us and lacks empathy is just an empty suit, not a leader of the free world.
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If you think Clinton has even one redeeming character trait, you are delusional, at best.
I'd like to see anything on that long list, just one or two that is specific and factual, bet you got nothin
I'd like to see anything on that long list, just one or two that is specific and factual, bet you got nothin
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Tomorrow is Constitution Day. Will a Trump victory in November mean the end of our democracy? I fear yes, since his authoritarian impulse is too obvious for all to see, except those in the Fourth Estate.
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I do not know where these polls come from nor do I care. Granted Hillary does have some trust issues, to me those of her close Corporate Relations could be a problem as Americans are tired of corrupt Corps running our country and those we elect as if they are Puppies seeking another Biscuit!
However, on the other hand I severely do not trust anything that Trump touches as he has proven again and again that whatever he touches Is For HIM FIRST AND FOREMOST the rest come last! He claims this and that but he seems not to understand that it is Congress who makes our Laws-sure he can veto those he personally does not like potentially but at this point in time he only makes promises and he does have a reputation of Breaking his Promises. And I am sorry as the Bankruptcy King I do not trust him with Our Funds, Foreign Relations (especially since his mouth does runneth over Disruptively and Irrespectively and I do not rust him to be able to run our Country for US First! This guy is as greedy as they come making wheels and deals go around in his favor that is not a Leader but an greedy Chump!
However, on the other hand I severely do not trust anything that Trump touches as he has proven again and again that whatever he touches Is For HIM FIRST AND FOREMOST the rest come last! He claims this and that but he seems not to understand that it is Congress who makes our Laws-sure he can veto those he personally does not like potentially but at this point in time he only makes promises and he does have a reputation of Breaking his Promises. And I am sorry as the Bankruptcy King I do not trust him with Our Funds, Foreign Relations (especially since his mouth does runneth over Disruptively and Irrespectively and I do not rust him to be able to run our Country for US First! This guy is as greedy as they come making wheels and deals go around in his favor that is not a Leader but an greedy Chump!
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Who is going to vote for Trump the racist?
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Not I!
I am, I am a racist too, since that word now means, "I disagree"with the status quo
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Consider some of what Trump is bold about:
About running the Presidency as a Putin-like strongman.
About curtailing our democratic freedom of speech through squashing public protest and locking out swaths of the media and press.
About lowering our standard of living by retreating from the global economy.
About limiting the diversity that uniquely defines America and makes it great.
In other words, Trump's boldness, in exploiting the anger and fear of struggling Americans, involves nothing less than the risk of moving away from democracy, limiting our freedom, and reversing our global leadership. To the extent he can make us safer in, and less challenged by, a difficult world, it will be the impoverishment of living in a shell.
About running the Presidency as a Putin-like strongman.
About curtailing our democratic freedom of speech through squashing public protest and locking out swaths of the media and press.
About lowering our standard of living by retreating from the global economy.
About limiting the diversity that uniquely defines America and makes it great.
In other words, Trump's boldness, in exploiting the anger and fear of struggling Americans, involves nothing less than the risk of moving away from democracy, limiting our freedom, and reversing our global leadership. To the extent he can make us safer in, and less challenged by, a difficult world, it will be the impoverishment of living in a shell.
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The Clinton genius is to accomplish their filthy work at many arms* length from themselves. It*s never actual illegality that they commit--only the most egregious failures of ethics and decency. It*s always the people who got themselves entangled with the Clintons who ended up in jail, or disgraced.
It*s always the careful parsing of words where the truth lies in the conjugation of verbs or the use of the passive voice or the careful listing of what is and the omission of what may very well actually be.
Of course Trump is awful. How does that fact make Hillary less so?
It*s always the careful parsing of words where the truth lies in the conjugation of verbs or the use of the passive voice or the careful listing of what is and the omission of what may very well actually be.
Of course Trump is awful. How does that fact make Hillary less so?
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Where do you find your "facts" re Hilary? Your comments are total nonsense.
Clinton may not be able to bring about the much-desired social and economic change, but if that'so, it will be for the same reason the Obama years have left us disappointed - Republican obstruction. Trump, for all his promises, doesn't convince me he has the will to follow through on any except the ones he will probably fail at, deservedly so, such as building the wall and making Mexico pay for it, and shutting out Muslims. So . . . HILL, YES.
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Would much prefer a capable businessman over a crooked politician who lies and covers up her wrongdoings when exposed.
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Ahh, but Mr. Trump is not a "capable" businessman. What he is a capable self-promoter. His "fabulous" businesses barely broke even in his developer days. His casinos not only all went broke, but took much of Atlantic City with them when they went into bankruptcy. Only after playing a successful businessman on TV did Trump have the recognition to sell the Trump brand. Now all he does to make his money is get big bucks for allowing people to slap his name on anything and everything regardless of the quality. Remember his Trump University wasn't a university and didn't offer an education.
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When will media organizations, including the New York Times, learn that "nationwide" polls that don't take the Electoral College into account are meaningless? Yes the race is getting closer, but according 538 today, if you look at where Mrs. Clinton is strongest and where Mr. Trump holds sway, Mrs. Clinton has a 60 percent chance of winning the election and Mr. Trump a 39.9 percent chance. While Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump have come closer recently, this is hardly a neck and neck election - no matter what you want to say. Frankly the media could throw the election to Mr. Trump simply by continually telling the public he has the chance to win.
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If Mrs. Clinton wants to be seen as a change agent and wants to free herself to preside as a change agent, she should step away now from incrementalist positions on issues which command super-majority public support for deep change and commit to being a one-term president in order to effect those changes.
That would eliminate the need to fund raise for a second term.
That would eliminate the need to fund raise for a second term.
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Trump "better at handling the economy".
Huh? Inherit money from daddy, take on as much debt as possible, go bankrupt multiple times, and then hide the results so we don't even know how bad the real story is.
We know what the US owes China. But what does Trump owe China? Millions or billions?
Huh? Inherit money from daddy, take on as much debt as possible, go bankrupt multiple times, and then hide the results so we don't even know how bad the real story is.
We know what the US owes China. But what does Trump owe China? Millions or billions?
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More NY Times hogwash. Most eligible voters are neither Republicans or Democrats. That's right folks: most eligible voters find both of the corrupt monopoly party nominees to be repugnant. They do not support the inveterate liar, war criminal, war profiteer and global mega-felon, Hillary Clinton, nor do they support the privileged and bigoted poltroon, Donald Trump. Neither of these candidates is entitled to your vote. There is not even uniform support for their respective standard bearers within their own parties!
Both candidates are risky. Hillary could drive us into WWIII and Trump can turn us more overtly into an Apartheid state. Neither is fit for the Presidency and one senses that they seek the office to secure sovereign immunity from their felonies.
Time to exit the Establishment parties and restore democracy - and the Constitution - from the depredations of the corrupt two party dictatorship.
Both candidates are risky. Hillary could drive us into WWIII and Trump can turn us more overtly into an Apartheid state. Neither is fit for the Presidency and one senses that they seek the office to secure sovereign immunity from their felonies.
Time to exit the Establishment parties and restore democracy - and the Constitution - from the depredations of the corrupt two party dictatorship.
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Exactly right, but how?
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My IRA is pleading for an establishment candidate to win. Clinton will not disturb the status quo. Her cosmic mendacity and self-serving corruption are distasteful, but safer. The devil or the witch? It looks like the latter.
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Dear Hillary:
Try to relate to "folks" and toss aside your memorized lines -- they are boring. Be specific and give examples of your plans.
Not everyone can read your website - some cannot read, some do not have time, some do not have a pc.
Do not disappear again in order to raise money and party with your elite peers sipping champagne.
STOP playing the victim and whining about how many years the other party has been tearing you down - it is not about you. It is about us.
More importantly, STOP criticizing your opponent. You will not be able to recruit Trump supporters as they are firmly entrenched and it degrades you as a person and makes you a bore. You need to attract those on the fence instead of pushing them over to the other side.
Try to relate to "folks" and toss aside your memorized lines -- they are boring. Be specific and give examples of your plans.
Not everyone can read your website - some cannot read, some do not have time, some do not have a pc.
Do not disappear again in order to raise money and party with your elite peers sipping champagne.
STOP playing the victim and whining about how many years the other party has been tearing you down - it is not about you. It is about us.
More importantly, STOP criticizing your opponent. You will not be able to recruit Trump supporters as they are firmly entrenched and it degrades you as a person and makes you a bore. You need to attract those on the fence instead of pushing them over to the other side.
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There is some truth in this. Hillary where are your banners , your flyers your signs and bumper stickers?? Seldom seen around here(NE PA) and none offered. Get on it!!
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The Con Don will bring change to Washington for sure. He'll put his boy Mikey in charge, put a hostile corporate takeover robber baron in charge of OUR U.S. Treasury and let Russia and China buy up more of OUR United States resources because he will benefit and profit.
I simply cannot believe the majority of Americans would be so stupid as to vote for him.
I simply cannot believe the majority of Americans would be so stupid as to vote for him.
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Trump: all risk, no rewards. You don't have to like Hillary to know she's the only choice for president. Why? No risk, many rewards.
Thinking of not voting or voting for a third-party candidate? Vote for her anyway. Why? Not voting is voting...for the other candidate. And protest votes are obtuse. They change nothing but do give the unqualified candidate a better chance of winning.
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Thinking of not voting or voting for a third-party candidate? Vote for her anyway. Why? Not voting is voting...for the other candidate. And protest votes are obtuse. They change nothing but do give the unqualified candidate a better chance of winning.
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In full agreement . Well said and perfectly documented.
Though Trump appears to be in charge of this odyssey toward the Presidency it's the appointed surrogates that have taken over with spoon-fed speeches and soothing of the savage-beast. Where ever this takes him he is losing the reins and relinquishing control of his own destiny to a conglomerate of suspicious characters .
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Unfortunately, very unfortunately, the racist and bigoted and hateful antics spewing from Donald Trump's mouth have ignited and awoken and coalesced all that is evil and ugly and sinister in America. The repercussions and prospects of a Trump administration are truly horrifying. Perhaps this mess was inevitable, the result of a 200 year old festering wound that has now progressed to a worrisome cancer.
How many thousands and possible millions of beings will suffer at the hands of this madman?
God help the United States of America.
How many thousands and possible millions of beings will suffer at the hands of this madman?
God help the United States of America.
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You left out the hopeful
Every so called millennial has a parent or two who can talk to them and offer some historical, compelling reasons to make sure we don't elect an authoritarian bigot.
Like the fascists of the 1930s or the southern bigotry that tore the soul of the nation - remnants remaining.
Remind them of a paranoid president named Nixon and how he secretly plotted against ordinary Americans whom he saw as enemies. Does anyone believe Trump, with power and the levers of government, would not secretly go after people?
That's his way even now.
Grab your kid by the collar and let them know that Clinton is so, so preferable to Trump. Even as a placeholder who will not move us backward on the issues millennials favor.
And, Bernie, these are your "children" - you need to shake them, wake them up.
Now!
Like the fascists of the 1930s or the southern bigotry that tore the soul of the nation - remnants remaining.
Remind them of a paranoid president named Nixon and how he secretly plotted against ordinary Americans whom he saw as enemies. Does anyone believe Trump, with power and the levers of government, would not secretly go after people?
That's his way even now.
Grab your kid by the collar and let them know that Clinton is so, so preferable to Trump. Even as a placeholder who will not move us backward on the issues millennials favor.
And, Bernie, these are your "children" - you need to shake them, wake them up.
Now!
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Like this one's use of IRS against political enemies, I think it's one of the main reasons people are behind Trump, we already have too much authoritarinism. Never before required by law to buy something as expensive as a mortgage payment.
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Your article title tells it all. You are anti Hillary. Why continue to try to make Trump into a legimate candidate. We all know he is a pretender. The only real candidate is Hillary Clinton and I hope and pray that enough people come to their senses and vote for her in November. I cannot fathom a Trump presidency. We will fall into a deep dark hole, which will take us eons to recover from.. I was not a gung ho Hillary voter before, but there can be no other choice. C'mon NY Times, quit the "hit" stories on Hillary.
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As Nick Kristof has so persuasively argued, it's a gigantic distortion for voters to think that Donald Trump, con man, known in his business community for stiffing contractors and leaving his investors and customers in the lurch while he escapes with a multi-million dollar parachute, and for chronically and compulsively lying, is more trustworthy than Hillary. It's transparently clear that this is because the media rules for covering the Clintons is to breathlessly cover every last innuendo as if it were the gospel truth. The Times, like the rest of the mainstream media, bears a substantial responsibility for perpetuating that gross distortion, and creating this Monster.
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It is obvious from reading the comments that most of the Times readers are "knee-jerk" democrats. I guess that the independents and republicans have already cancelled their subscriptions.
Change is definitely needed in this country and most of us know that will not happen with HC in the presidency. We will have 4 or (God forbid) 8 more years of no change and grid lock in the country. If we don't move forward, we will slide back.
Change is definitely needed in this country and most of us know that will not happen with HC in the presidency. We will have 4 or (God forbid) 8 more years of no change and grid lock in the country. If we don't move forward, we will slide back.
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The Guardian is currently running a feature called The Lies Trump Told This Week while the Times runs headlines saying Trump will Create 25 Million New Jobs that criticize his "programs," but in this age of sound bites, few actually read the articles or the opinion pieces. The Times also runs vicious "think" pieces by Maureen Dowd, an attack dog journalist who does all she can to run down HRC and is published in alt-right Breibart News. The age of objective journalism has been over since Bill Clinton's first term, in case no one has noticed, yet the Times clings to its pose of neutrality. Why doesn't the Times take a real stand against this dangerous sociopath? Afraid of losing some readers in Trump country?
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Could some writer do an analysis of, say, 5 other billionaires, maybe Buffet, Cuban, Gates, and 2 others, in order to see how frequently they get sued, and the nature and results of those suits? It might help the moniker " crooked Donald" stick a bit. I read an article recently said Trump has been sued over 1000 times in 20 years. I doubt any other billionaire has caused as many actionable events.
Mr. Trump's boomerang strategy, (crooked Hilary, deflecting attention from his crookedness, plus the equivalency issue, ( ignore my 1000 legal entanglements, look at Hilary's) could be rechannelled to looking at the equivalency of a sleazy billionaire vs. Others in that billionaire class.
Mr. Trump's boomerang strategy, (crooked Hilary, deflecting attention from his crookedness, plus the equivalency issue, ( ignore my 1000 legal entanglements, look at Hilary's) could be rechannelled to looking at the equivalency of a sleazy billionaire vs. Others in that billionaire class.
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No way young folk will go out of their way to support a 70 year old women with the kind of baggage Hillary Clinton has. No way black folk turn out in the numbers they did for Obama.
There is an immense enthusiasm gap between Hillary "supporters" and Trump supporters which is obvious by difference in the size of crowds they turn out. Trump supporters will go out of their way to vote for him, not so much for Hillary.
There is an immense enthusiasm gap between Hillary "supporters" and Trump supporters which is obvious by difference in the size of crowds they turn out. Trump supporters will go out of their way to vote for him, not so much for Hillary.
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The only problem is that uneducated whites, the largest demographic for Trump, are not known to turn out to vote.
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" Donald J. Trump a risky choice for president" I agree, but what voters may not be considering is Trump's learning ability. I believe he as a LEARNING DISABILITY (LD).
I think this explains a lot of his fragmented thinking and his persistent dishonesty. It may help to explain Trump's egomania, monuments such as the Trump Tower, etc, etc.
Do we want a president who's judgment is impaired because he has trouble learning and understanding basics and details?
(Now, Hillary Clinton may have some LD, learning disability problems, too. But she has a lifetime of experience in government service. Trump, on the other hand, has zero (0) experience in government. This is scary.)
No wonder that so many less educated voters support Trump. But do they really want a president with impaired judgment?
I hope that LD, learning disability will come up in the debates. I hope that Clinton will raise it and use it to take Trump out, over and over, again.
The only thing we have to fear is... Donald (LD) Trump!
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I think this explains a lot of his fragmented thinking and his persistent dishonesty. It may help to explain Trump's egomania, monuments such as the Trump Tower, etc, etc.
Do we want a president who's judgment is impaired because he has trouble learning and understanding basics and details?
(Now, Hillary Clinton may have some LD, learning disability problems, too. But she has a lifetime of experience in government service. Trump, on the other hand, has zero (0) experience in government. This is scary.)
No wonder that so many less educated voters support Trump. But do they really want a president with impaired judgment?
I hope that LD, learning disability will come up in the debates. I hope that Clinton will raise it and use it to take Trump out, over and over, again.
The only thing we have to fear is... Donald (LD) Trump!
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Let me add that there is a stigma associated with mental problems and learning disabilities, LD. But presidential elections are serious business.
I hope that Hillary Clinton will challenge Donald Trump during the debates, again and again on his mental fitness for the White House. Is this not fair?
Time is running out, as Trump is gaining support.
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I hope that Hillary Clinton will challenge Donald Trump during the debates, again and again on his mental fitness for the White House. Is this not fair?
Time is running out, as Trump is gaining support.
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Hillary Clinton has to hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD in the debates and during the campaign. So far, she has been too much of a "policy wonk". She rambles on and on, and it is hard to remember a thing she said. No wonder she is slipping in the polls.
I hope she will keeping asking about Trump's learning ability and LD, even if this offends some voters.
I fear that if Clinton does not go after Trump, she will lose the election, and the nation will suffer for the next 4 years, with confusion, economic problems and who knows what...
Let him have it, Hillary!
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I hope she will keeping asking about Trump's learning ability and LD, even if this offends some voters.
I fear that if Clinton does not go after Trump, she will lose the election, and the nation will suffer for the next 4 years, with confusion, economic problems and who knows what...
Let him have it, Hillary!
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Apropos of today's headlines re Trump:
Birther = Racist = Deplorable
Couldn't comment under actual article, but it needs to be said, over and over.
Birther = Racist = Deplorable
Couldn't comment under actual article, but it needs to be said, over and over.
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The risk far outweighs any rewards but his ignorant supporters can't, or won't, see that. God help our country if this racist loud mouth gets elected. We'll have the most unqualified, disgraceful leader in the free world. Boggles my mind that people can't see through this and realize there's no substance to anything he says.
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Hillary Clinton should be leading Trump by double digits. She isn't. This is all about voters rejecting her--not voters flooding to Trump.
Clinton's campaign has been all about bashing Trump--and his voters. Casting aspersions on voters seems to be a habit of hers. She--or at least her surrogates--spent most of her time in the primaries bashing Sanders voters, calling his supporters ignorant, naïve, misogynistic--or if they happened to be female traitors to their gender--and let's not forget of course the evil Berniebros who hurt the delicate feelings of poor little Hillary supporters. The circumstances of her winning in some of the primaries were suspicious enough to raise the belief that the nomination was stolen. Yes, Sanders himself is onboard with Clinton but that doesn't mean his supporters blindly follow. No one likes to be called stupid, naïve or bigoted.
Colin Powell was spot on when he characterized Clinton's great fault as hubris. My advice to her, not that she'd take it, is to go on an apology tour. Come clean about the e-mails. Come clean about your health. Above all tell us what you're going to do for the country and stop with the negative ads. We all know that Trump once again quoting Colin Powell is "a disgrace and an international pariah". Tell us how you're going to be better.
Clinton's campaign has been all about bashing Trump--and his voters. Casting aspersions on voters seems to be a habit of hers. She--or at least her surrogates--spent most of her time in the primaries bashing Sanders voters, calling his supporters ignorant, naïve, misogynistic--or if they happened to be female traitors to their gender--and let's not forget of course the evil Berniebros who hurt the delicate feelings of poor little Hillary supporters. The circumstances of her winning in some of the primaries were suspicious enough to raise the belief that the nomination was stolen. Yes, Sanders himself is onboard with Clinton but that doesn't mean his supporters blindly follow. No one likes to be called stupid, naïve or bigoted.
Colin Powell was spot on when he characterized Clinton's great fault as hubris. My advice to her, not that she'd take it, is to go on an apology tour. Come clean about the e-mails. Come clean about your health. Above all tell us what you're going to do for the country and stop with the negative ads. We all know that Trump once again quoting Colin Powell is "a disgrace and an international pariah". Tell us how you're going to be better.
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You nailed it on the head.
This poll is interesting and concerning. Based on what he ha said and his life history Donald Trump is a huge risk if elected. How anyone could believe that his Presidency would be successful with this complete lack of understanding the federal government. He relies on his and others comments and fails to use facts.
For Hillary Clinton voters use negative comments that have no facts or even worse use issues that Congress investigated and found nothing. Too many voters views lack facts. If you dislike Hillary Clinton because gut tells you and vote for Donald Trump despite his history and comments. We have a problem.
For Hillary Clinton voters use negative comments that have no facts or even worse use issues that Congress investigated and found nothing. Too many voters views lack facts. If you dislike Hillary Clinton because gut tells you and vote for Donald Trump despite his history and comments. We have a problem.
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The question is wht kind of chamge would he bring. Getting rid of the inheritance tax doesn't help the average person who doesn't have the $6 million dollars necessary for the tax to kick in, but does help his children avoid paying inheritance taxes. Lowering the tax bracket for the rich helps lower his taxes and his economic plan, called trickle down economics only worked to make the rich richer and never trickled down to the middle class when it was tried in two previous administrations. The childcare tax deduction for all helps the rich who earned too much to get a deduction, but means more taxes for the poor who get a tax credit now. Is this the change we're looking for?
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Trump's positions are all about what's good for him. He probably thinks if he is president he can stop the audit on his taxes.
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Yes, it is
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Respectfully, I hope those same voters will fondly remember their "bold" choice when they see the contrails streaming skyward, courtesy of their risky candidate. Then (for 30 minutes at least) they can reconsider their part in enabling the unnecessary trade wars that candidate Trump has vowed to start, which are likely to escalate to WWIII given his self-proclaimed "unpredictability" and utter lack of diplomacy.
Being a "good negotiator" in real estate may derive from being obstinate and willing to walk away from any deal. Being a good President of a superpower requires thoughtfulness, diplomacy, engagement, a knowledge of world history (so you don't repeat the same mistakes) and patience. . . all characteristics that candidate Trump clearly does not posses.
At least Secretary Clinton (the "not-bold" choice?) would be a sober and more sensible steward of our country's future as a going concern and indeed the world's future, as a viable place to live. With Trump in the White House, scientists on other planets will someday look through their telescopes and marvel that like Mars, the Earth apparently had enough water and just the right atmosphere to sustain life, at one point in its distant past, at least.
Being a "good negotiator" in real estate may derive from being obstinate and willing to walk away from any deal. Being a good President of a superpower requires thoughtfulness, diplomacy, engagement, a knowledge of world history (so you don't repeat the same mistakes) and patience. . . all characteristics that candidate Trump clearly does not posses.
At least Secretary Clinton (the "not-bold" choice?) would be a sober and more sensible steward of our country's future as a going concern and indeed the world's future, as a viable place to live. With Trump in the White House, scientists on other planets will someday look through their telescopes and marvel that like Mars, the Earth apparently had enough water and just the right atmosphere to sustain life, at one point in its distant past, at least.
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The only "basket of deplorables" we've got here is the one with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in it.
Neither of these two despicable billionaire/millionaire candidates should sit in the Oval Office.
Either of them will be pawns of the elite to further concentrate wealth and power, and that is deplorable.
Neither of these two despicable billionaire/millionaire candidates should sit in the Oval Office.
Either of them will be pawns of the elite to further concentrate wealth and power, and that is deplorable.
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False equivalence is for losers who aren't able to make a rational analysis of the pros and cons of both candidates.
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@ Brad Blumenstock
Personal Attacks aren't helpful. I was trying to keep it nice and short.
My "rational analysis" of why I couldn't vote for Hillary is because NOBODY has forced the former First Lady
to to switch her stand on the banking bankruptcy bill
to claim to have been under sniper fire on a tarmac in Bosnia
to install a private server in her home, and thus evade public scrutiny
to give differential treatment while SOS to Clinton Foundation donors
to allow her supporters start the "birther" conspiracy in 2008
to vote for the Iraq invasion
to lobby for the invasion of Lybia and the murder of Gaddafi
to advocate for regime change in Syria
to support coups in Honduras, Haiti and elsewhere
to be in the pocket of Wall Street, Big Pharma, Big Oil etc.
to come around on gay marriage very late in the game
to sell fracking around the world
to lobby against raising the minimum wage in Haiti to $0.61 an hour
to threaten the nuclear annihilation of Iran
...
etc. etc.
Hope that satisfies your need for "rational analysis".
Neither of the two candidates deserve to be President.
Personal Attacks aren't helpful. I was trying to keep it nice and short.
My "rational analysis" of why I couldn't vote for Hillary is because NOBODY has forced the former First Lady
to to switch her stand on the banking bankruptcy bill
to claim to have been under sniper fire on a tarmac in Bosnia
to install a private server in her home, and thus evade public scrutiny
to give differential treatment while SOS to Clinton Foundation donors
to allow her supporters start the "birther" conspiracy in 2008
to vote for the Iraq invasion
to lobby for the invasion of Lybia and the murder of Gaddafi
to advocate for regime change in Syria
to support coups in Honduras, Haiti and elsewhere
to be in the pocket of Wall Street, Big Pharma, Big Oil etc.
to come around on gay marriage very late in the game
to sell fracking around the world
to lobby against raising the minimum wage in Haiti to $0.61 an hour
to threaten the nuclear annihilation of Iran
...
etc. etc.
Hope that satisfies your need for "rational analysis".
Neither of the two candidates deserve to be President.
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How is it not relevant for the press to point out that Bill Clinton's record on jobs is the best of any president in the history of the nation? Does Hillary really not understand what those ingredients were? And how then does Trump enjoy an 8 point lead on the economy when he's declared bankruptcy 4 different times?! There's a huge uninformed public out there, to be true. But the press shouldn't abet their ignorance. State the record clearly!
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As a politician Donald Trump is both ignorant and unaware of his ignorance; as a businessman he has a record of fraud and bankruptcy; as a husband he is a serial adulterer; and in all areas of his life his choices consistently reflect preference for illusion over reality and style over substance.
I have heard and agreed with the statement that a people elect the government they deserve. God help us if we have sunk so low that we deserve Donald Trump as our president.
I have heard and agreed with the statement that a people elect the government they deserve. God help us if we have sunk so low that we deserve Donald Trump as our president.
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I am in full support of Hillary Clinton and the Democratic ticket. I am volunteering and donating.
"Change" Trump style would be destructive to our country. Our principles of fairness and inclusion, separation of church and state, are at grave risk. The American spirit of innovation is forward thinking, we aren't going to thrive by looking back. The environment, economy, and children need us to look ahead.
Love will Trump hate!
"Change" Trump style would be destructive to our country. Our principles of fairness and inclusion, separation of church and state, are at grave risk. The American spirit of innovation is forward thinking, we aren't going to thrive by looking back. The environment, economy, and children need us to look ahead.
Love will Trump hate!
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I registered to vote for the first time in Ohio after my 21st birthday in 1970, needing no ID, mind you. I voted 38 years, until Obama ran and won TWICE, needing no ID. NOW, all of a sudden, one is needed. Yet in all the years I have voted, land line, smartphone, etc., I have never been polled for anything by anyone. Is it because they know I'm black from my address and do not value my input? Where are these results coming from? My mom and late father, both retired precinct judges in their polling districts, my sister, now one, my other three sisters and my three children have never been polled. IF I can receive three Nielson ratings requests, what am I missing? Do not believe your 'white' washed polls. They weren't right in 2012 big time.
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Democrats and their media are pulling out the same old tattered playbook to try and pull a snow job by labelling Trump a "risky scheme". Dems love that "scheme" approach, makes everything else seem like a sleezy idea so it takes the focus off of their own horrible candidate, HRC. Apt initials.
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My wife and I were career employees in a Federal law enforcement agency, both with Top Secret/SCI clearances and we cannot get over the fact that Clinton overtly lied to the FBI about the e-mails and the e-mail server and they gave her a "golden pass" and let her walk. If this was anyone else, they'd be headed for Federal prison.
When you are granted a TS/SCI in any agency, you are taken to a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility) and given a lengthy briefing by a security expert on the correct handling and dissemination of confidential, secret, TS, and code word documents. You are heavily indoctrinated on what you can and cannot do. And then you are given a series of documents to initial paragraph by paragraph, sign and date and you are clearly put on notice that if you violate the rules you are headed for Federal prison. This takes place in all Federal agencies (State, Energy, Justice, Homeland Security...you name it) and so it was with Clinton. She can't see she didn't know and the repeated lies to the investigating agents about "not able to recall" are noteworthy since the last person to employ this technique was John Dean during the Watergate hearings a generation ago.
Sad to say the woman is a compulsive, pathological liar who belongs in prison. If I were Trump and if I were to win in November, job #1 would be to replace the FBI Director who rolled over and played dead
When you are granted a TS/SCI in any agency, you are taken to a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility) and given a lengthy briefing by a security expert on the correct handling and dissemination of confidential, secret, TS, and code word documents. You are heavily indoctrinated on what you can and cannot do. And then you are given a series of documents to initial paragraph by paragraph, sign and date and you are clearly put on notice that if you violate the rules you are headed for Federal prison. This takes place in all Federal agencies (State, Energy, Justice, Homeland Security...you name it) and so it was with Clinton. She can't see she didn't know and the repeated lies to the investigating agents about "not able to recall" are noteworthy since the last person to employ this technique was John Dean during the Watergate hearings a generation ago.
Sad to say the woman is a compulsive, pathological liar who belongs in prison. If I were Trump and if I were to win in November, job #1 would be to replace the FBI Director who rolled over and played dead
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If there's one thing, and perhaps only one, that Donald Trump's campaign has accomplished is to bring center stage the need for change in Washington but this will not happen under his watch as his track record time and time again shows his pathological need to call all the shots - he lacks the ability to listen, reflect, consider and defer to those who may be better informed. He is the antithesis of bipartisanship or successful negotiation. How can we expect a person who knows or cares so little about foreign policy, the environment, domestic issues and, yes, economic nuance to transform anything in a direction other than toward at best a very unstable and divided America. In the words of the immortal Pogo... "We (the electorate) have met the enemy and he is us."
2
Well the Trump has made the Kool Aid, the media has distributed it and now a large part of the public looks ready to drink it.
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Voters thinking Trump would have a better handle on the economy need to take a look at his appalling business record. He's left unpaid subcontractors, cheated students, bankruptcies and a tidal wave of lawsuits in his wake. His promise to "renegotiate" our national debt sent Wall Street and the banks into a panic. Trump's "renegotiation" technique is to simply refuse to pay his debts until someone takes him to court, where they then are awarded 10 cents on the dollar. They take it because they know it's the only Trump money they'll ever see.
Trump is the most unethical person to run for president in our lifetimes, and I'm including Richard Nixon in that list. Trump would be a complete disaster in every way--especially the economy.
Trump is the most unethical person to run for president in our lifetimes, and I'm including Richard Nixon in that list. Trump would be a complete disaster in every way--especially the economy.
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BIG RISK is "H.R.C. Big Rewards and Big Changes that are needed is Donald Trump....Oh as I recall, BHO did NOT have any really qualifying experience at all...and Donald has tons of "real world" experience....TAKE IT TO THE BANK
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Perhaps those that feel Trump does not have the temperament to be a good President don't know what temperament is needed to make a good President.
What if what we need right now is a negotiator that can push the two obstructionist parties occupying government to actually focus and get some things done for the American people?
Trump is hardly an old school ideological Republican. He can drive toward a middle ground.
There is virtually 0% chance that Hillary will rally the opposition to work with her on anything except those designed to screw the American people and benefit donors.
A vote for Hillary is a guarantee of gridlock.
What if what we need right now is a negotiator that can push the two obstructionist parties occupying government to actually focus and get some things done for the American people?
Trump is hardly an old school ideological Republican. He can drive toward a middle ground.
There is virtually 0% chance that Hillary will rally the opposition to work with her on anything except those designed to screw the American people and benefit donors.
A vote for Hillary is a guarantee of gridlock.
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Let's take an example:
1) There is a hungry WILD BEAST, you befriend with it. What do you expect from a hungry WILD BEAST? Will the beast TERRORIZE YOUR WELL-BEING or be submissive to your idiocy?
In the same vein, Donald Trump seriously does business with communist + fascist Russian leader as well as with Muslim hard core countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia. What do voters expect from these WILD "terrorists" who freely come and go into America to FREELY PURCHASE the most American advanced weapon from Donald Trump's CORRUPTED Administration???
Please wake up, voters to smell the reality with chaos that is going to happen to our democratic world!
Everything, which smears to Secretary Hillary Clinton’s reputation, is implanted by GOP and the majority Republican House of Congress and Senators.
All business corporate aims at looting Public tax fund, at outsourcing American jobs, and at corrupting American well established Democracy (= destroying Union Force, bullying work force with minimum wage "below basic living cost" plus without benefit and pension for retirement).
If all intelligent lawyers, writers, journalist, educators, and patriotic business people SUCCUMB to corrupted republican party, our children and grandchildren WILL SUFFER greatly under dictatorial leadership.
Shall we learn from the past: CIVIL War(s), WWI, WWII, North Korea, China, and Vietnamese War?
Have we ever seen people flee away from all capitalist countries, like America, Canada and Germany?
1) There is a hungry WILD BEAST, you befriend with it. What do you expect from a hungry WILD BEAST? Will the beast TERRORIZE YOUR WELL-BEING or be submissive to your idiocy?
In the same vein, Donald Trump seriously does business with communist + fascist Russian leader as well as with Muslim hard core countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia. What do voters expect from these WILD "terrorists" who freely come and go into America to FREELY PURCHASE the most American advanced weapon from Donald Trump's CORRUPTED Administration???
Please wake up, voters to smell the reality with chaos that is going to happen to our democratic world!
Everything, which smears to Secretary Hillary Clinton’s reputation, is implanted by GOP and the majority Republican House of Congress and Senators.
All business corporate aims at looting Public tax fund, at outsourcing American jobs, and at corrupting American well established Democracy (= destroying Union Force, bullying work force with minimum wage "below basic living cost" plus without benefit and pension for retirement).
If all intelligent lawyers, writers, journalist, educators, and patriotic business people SUCCUMB to corrupted republican party, our children and grandchildren WILL SUFFER greatly under dictatorial leadership.
Shall we learn from the past: CIVIL War(s), WWI, WWII, North Korea, China, and Vietnamese War?
Have we ever seen people flee away from all capitalist countries, like America, Canada and Germany?
1
This is starting to feel like the Scott Brown , Martha Coakley senate race in Massachusetts a few years ago. Coakley was far more experienced in government and had a sense of entitlement, but the people wanted change from the status quo and elected Brown.
6
Liberals are squirming, life is good.
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If the Democrats blow this, the historians will write about the party basically fixed the nominating process, nominated a 68 year old woman with incredible baggage, and she was her own worst enemy. I thought Gore losing to Bush was amazing, when all he had to do was carry his own state (Tenn.). If she loses this, it will literally be taking defeat out of the jaws of victory. At least Gore lost to the governor of Texas. She may lose to who?
3
I'm with Colin Powell...they are both unsatisfactory. You have to decide who is less unsatisfactory. Is this the best we can do? In our fetid political system, yes.
4
Seems to me the real problem with the U.S. is that its federal legislative and executive bureaucracy and internal politics is so cryptic that it requires someone with a lifetime of experience in that space to run the country.
The way I see it is that the country's problems are rising faster than solutions are being implemented. Any solution that has been offered up to this point just preserves the idiocy that has been built over the past generation.
Sometimes a system is so messed up, it is time to start over. I am more interested in common sense solutions to the country's problems. Not the snake oil sold by lobbyists.
The way I see it is that the country's problems are rising faster than solutions are being implemented. Any solution that has been offered up to this point just preserves the idiocy that has been built over the past generation.
Sometimes a system is so messed up, it is time to start over. I am more interested in common sense solutions to the country's problems. Not the snake oil sold by lobbyists.
2
How stupid are people if they think that Donald Trump would be good for the economy. He's a disaster waiting to happen. It would make enemies with all of our trading partners. He's a total imbecile and you would have to be dumb to think any thing otherwise. On top of that he's completely dangerous. If I hated America like Putin I would vote for Donald Trump.
5
Americans have only themselves to blame for the condition of politics, the nation and their own compromised position in the economy. Voters in Maine elected LePage twice in spite of his foul and abusive language, insults and attacks on others including Republicans. His supporters seem to believe that everyone except themselves deserve to be treated this way. Trump and his supporters are the same. Meanwhile, Trump supporters claim he is honest and expect him to deliver jobs though his track record is about 13,000 law suites for his not paying on or complying with his contracts, bankrupting several of his businesses and eliminating thousands of jobs including Atlantic City, and cheating and defrauding his Trump University students. The news media has mentioned all of this, but let's it slide as Trump lies about his greatness, makes promises no one can keep, and aims attacks on others that he most deserves for his own activities. On top of all of this, he thinks Putin is a great guy? Is this the new "axis of evil"? We have a big problem.
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We cannot afford four more years of Barrack Obama and that's the best we could expect from Hillary Clinton. She is deeply flawed. She has a real hard time telling the truth and has no idea what transparency means. We have a President that promised the most transparent administration ever and got nothing near it. Trump has been made out to be the worst thing since Bad Santa. Yes he has to appear more Presidential. Yes, he is not the best those we have had in the last thirty years. However, he is a man with more principle than Hillary will ever be. He has had tremendous success. Hillary, being honest, has had nothing close to success as a Senator or Secretary of State. We gave a man with no experience the keys to the White House. In spite of him trying real hard, Obama did not destroy this Country. Telling the truth, it's very hard for one man/woman to destroy this House that we have built over the past 240 years. We definitely need change. Obama's (Clinton) policies of the past eight years have not worked and might do damage. Our Congress is broken and we need an outsider to fix these problems. I can't vote for a person with deeply flawed character of Clinton. I will vote for the not-perfect Trump and pray he can straighten us out.
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Yes, he would bring real change to DC and not the change that would be good for the country.
4
Hillary has her flaws, but Trump is a lying sociopath.
5
Perhaps Mrs. Clinton will not be the change we need and might have gotten with a Sanders presidency. But I would rather chug along as we have more or less on the right track albeit slowly rather than be completely derailed by a Trump presidency. The real impediment to change has been a Republican obstructionist Congress whose only concern is health and wealth of the 1%. Why is this not obvious to would-be Trump voters?
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Because quite a few people do not agree that we are more or less on the right track.
5
Margaret, I was thinking the Affordable Care Act along with all the positive economic changes since George W. were at least a start in the right direction.
2
I repeat: quite a few people do not agree that we are more or less on the right track. That statement takes into account the (Un-)Affordable Care Act and "all the positive economic changes" that a lot of us haven't noticed. We have, however, noticed, for example, Carrier and Ford moving to Mexico. We've also noticed the ACA, which was a travesty to begin with, seems to be in the process of imploding.
2
How Gary Johnson is even a factor after his Allepo meltdown is almost as mind boggling as people believing Trump will change anything. Hillary is a vanilla choice, but the affect she would have on the Supreme Court would be transformative.
2
The idea that one should vote for change for the sake of change simply appalls me. It is dangerous. What is one changing to? Donald Trump's economic program? His presentation to the NY Economics Cub was full of misrepresentations, wild exaggerations and already failed policies that have been tried before. When people talk about Washington being short on solutions, they conveniently forget that the Obama administration uplifted the country from the worst financial disaster since the 1930s, inherited from the former Republican Administration and the result of a series of huge policy errors committed since the time of Reagan through Bill Clinton and George W Bush. Yes, there remain big problems, but I wouldn't trade the progress of the last four years for the wild unknown of the next four under Donald J Trump.
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old people, ADHD, OCD, hypothyroidism, users of the system --both....
Ah the Supreme Court issue - well people could have resigned once they knew what was upp and maybe there should be a mandatory retirement age??? That said, if one criticizes Trump for suspecting that a CA judge was against him because of his remarks... and the press begs to disagree because justices are guided by the law.. then by definition there is no prejudice, only education/interpretation.
I am voting for Jill Stein -- female, green... an action... and well there's always impeachment or other imponderables that mean you need to vote the viep-president in this election and I do not like TPP fast tracker Kaine!!
Hillary has a very tarnished political record. Trump is a terrible businessman... I have no idea as to what is going on... do you really?
Ah the Supreme Court issue - well people could have resigned once they knew what was upp and maybe there should be a mandatory retirement age??? That said, if one criticizes Trump for suspecting that a CA judge was against him because of his remarks... and the press begs to disagree because justices are guided by the law.. then by definition there is no prejudice, only education/interpretation.
I am voting for Jill Stein -- female, green... an action... and well there's always impeachment or other imponderables that mean you need to vote the viep-president in this election and I do not like TPP fast tracker Kaine!!
Hillary has a very tarnished political record. Trump is a terrible businessman... I have no idea as to what is going on... do you really?
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After Dr. Bombay, then Dr. Oz to be followed by Dr. Spaceman from "30 Rock". This is how you vet a reality TV candidate not an actual candidate for President. Narcissists are feckless.
2
I'm a retired educator, I'm a white male and I READ--- and I'll Take Mrs. Clinton!
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The bigger question is how did America get to this position, is it too many years of Government responding to the money interest of Wall Street and the 1%? This probably started with Reagan but the result is the disenfranchise of the middle and lower classes. Both political parties are at fault for failing to understand the anger that politics has created and so we have two disliked and distrustful candidates for the highest office in the Nation. Our Representative to the world is indeed deplorable.
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One keeps hearing about the "Change" Trump would bring to Washington. Do people really believe it would be like the scripted nonsense on his reality TV Show? The man has no comprehension how government works, has no respect for the government workforce and disparages the military, the constitution, and the rule of law. This man wants to start a shooting war over and Iranian on a speedboat flipping the bird at an Aegis class Destroyer. Instead of Road Rage he wants to practice "Sea Rage". As far as his being a businessman and understanding business; Ken Lay of ENRON and Bernie Madoff were classified as a businessman. They brought about real change didn't they; but, they didn't come close to Trump's multiple bankruptcies.
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The broad-brushed name-calling that DT supporters are "deplorable" racists, xenophobes, sexists, Islamophobes...a-la the long lost & forgotten David Duke...[or for that matter, HRC supporters are "radical leftist commie pinkos"] is based on the myopic notion of GUILT BY ASSOCIATION...on both sides. There may very well be a "racist" element at the far extremes on BOTH sides, but one needs to be totally unbiased and even-handed in order to recognize that reality in the first place. To be sure, neither DT nor HRC should be personally "blamed" for their respective fringe associations; all they can do is denounce and distance themselves from these "fringe" elements which in no way characterize the vast majority of their supporters.
Indeed, this is a "double-edged sword", so to speak. For instance, although the BLM (Black Lives Matter) movement claims to have a positive, unifying message for all of society, there are those BLM followers who shamelessly carry signs at demonstrations that say "DEATH TO RACIST POLICE PIGS", etc. And it has even been suggested that the BLM movement has spurred an outbreak of violence against law enforcement, in general.
To be sure, these "fringe" BLM followers are far more likely to vote for HRC over DT. But should we therefore malign the bulk of HRC supporters as having the same mindset as those on the extreme "fringe"? Of course not! It is equally unfair and shortsighted to stereotype and caricaturize supporters of DT.
Indeed, this is a "double-edged sword", so to speak. For instance, although the BLM (Black Lives Matter) movement claims to have a positive, unifying message for all of society, there are those BLM followers who shamelessly carry signs at demonstrations that say "DEATH TO RACIST POLICE PIGS", etc. And it has even been suggested that the BLM movement has spurred an outbreak of violence against law enforcement, in general.
To be sure, these "fringe" BLM followers are far more likely to vote for HRC over DT. But should we therefore malign the bulk of HRC supporters as having the same mindset as those on the extreme "fringe"? Of course not! It is equally unfair and shortsighted to stereotype and caricaturize supporters of DT.
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Trump has categorically refused to distance himself from any of the "fringe" elements supporting him.
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I don't see how anyone can trust him if he will not release his taxes. If past performance indicates future results, he has gamed the system to leverage every tax loophole available only to the wealthy. His abuse of his charity is another demonstration of using the system to hoard personal wealth. He is no friend of the average American and is unlikely to promote any economic policies that will disadvantage him. All risk. No rewards. (Except for Trump and Friends).
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With all the economic indicators, sans Republican/conservative/Trump rhetoric, showing an improving economy with increasing wages, decreasing unemployment and rising stock values coupled with the fact that not a single one of the doom, gloom and destruction prophecies, predictions and assurances faithfully promised by Pres. Obama's detractors at the onset of his administrations has come to pass outside the imaginations of his detractors...
...Why on Earth would we be wanting an "agent of change?"
...Why on Earth would we be wanting an "agent of change?"
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Maybe a dead heat if we didn't use the Electoral College system but we do. Trump is now doing his passive aggressive pro birther thing. To paraphrase Mark Twain's musing about New England weather, if you think that Trump's getting back on track, just wait a minute.
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Listening to Trump make derogatory comments the other day about the minister who interrupted him simply to ask that he follow their agreement and not make derogatory comments about his opponent (HRC) it again illustrates what a fragile ego Trump has. Can you simply imagine how he will react on the world & national political scene - what an embarrassment for our country!
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I hope he comes in and gets the "joint a' jumpin'" .
I want him to clean out the nest of snakes who take our money and treat us like trash, I hope they get ticked enough to move the UN to Brussels.
The same to the freeloaders here who take and take and do nothing of value for their country. That's the corporations and the welfare class that doesn't have to work because the bennies are too good.
Clean up the border. No other country puts up with the nonsense we do including that parasite to the south of us.
I want him to clean out the nest of snakes who take our money and treat us like trash, I hope they get ticked enough to move the UN to Brussels.
The same to the freeloaders here who take and take and do nothing of value for their country. That's the corporations and the welfare class that doesn't have to work because the bennies are too good.
Clean up the border. No other country puts up with the nonsense we do including that parasite to the south of us.
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I would recommend this to nth power if I could. Thanks, NYHUGUENOT.
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Trump looks backward, angry about everything he doesn't like, willing to put the fate of America (and the world, really) on the line in the cause of his being right. Clinton looks forward. Her vision is positive, and her temperament is mature. With Hillary, you absolutely know whom you are getting, and what she intends to do. With Donald, even he has no idea what kind of hell is going to break loose. Visit New Ways Forward (http://newwaysforward.com) and see which candidate matches the wisdom and vision of the articles and videos there.
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Memo to Dems
Bernie was right. He was the change agent of the left. Legacy of DNC voter suppression. Missed opportunity for Dems.
Bernie was right. He was the change agent of the left. Legacy of DNC voter suppression. Missed opportunity for Dems.
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I add, we don't need Trump to change Washington. We need to get rid of the obstructive Congress members who in 8 years have brought good government to a standstill, in their conspiracy to deprive our first black President of any success.
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I am amazed that Trump is polling such high numbers. Aren't people interested in the truth? Yes, we all have witnessed candidates "stretching" the truth, but Trump is off the charts. His lies have been verified countless times. In addition he has insulted a cross section of people. His ideas are nonsense and his past is very sketchy to say the least, yet he may win the Presidency. Clinton has made a good number of missteps and of course the constant GOP war against her has hurt. Though Benghazi has proved to be none of her fault the relentless investigations has put doubt in many people's minds. I believe that if Trump is elected George W's tenure will be considered a walk in the park compared to the next number of years.
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Donald Trump is going to be your President and there is nothing you can do about it.
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This is a survey of only 1,400 phone interviews, of a total registered voter population of over 140million people. Who has time to answer phone surveys? Typically people with time. Simple point, but it doesn't reflect the larger population terribly well, sufficiently to be presented with the type of authority the NY Times is suggesting. It's a survey. Maybe it is that I really cannot believe people would consider the best qualified candidate in history (Secretary of State, visiting over 100 countries; lifetime advocate for children and women; accomplished Senator, winning by only a slight margin/on par with a real estate mogul who probably cannot name 100 countries and who has spent a lifetime defrauding workers and human rights. This survey should be put into the perspective it warrants and not taken as truly reflective of 200 million voters.
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The economy is steadily moving in the right direction, our military forces are not directly involved in combat resulting in thousands of casualties, unemployment is down, the stock market is up, and we are the strongest country in the world both economically and militarily. Given all of that, exactly what change will Trump bring? Well he says he will get rid of 11 million Mexicans, and build a wall. He will back away from our long standing allies and make them pay for their own defense. He will stamp out freedom of religion as we know it. He will insult and denigrate those who disagree with him. Is that a change that is really good for America? He will not bring back low skill manufacturing jobs. He will not be an advocate for the poor and striving people on the lower end of the economic scale. He has no experience about what it means to be a struggling/aspiring lower or middle income family trying to make things better for themselves. I hope America comes to its senses before November. Trump should be defeated decisively as a message to future politicians that we don't like someone like him with his beliefs about our country.
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"his penchant for insults and provocations often undercuts his political message"
Insult and provocation ARE his political message.
Insult and provocation ARE his political message.
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Hillary at some point must harp on how she can improve the economy. She can do that by talking about the increase in wage growth and by creating jobs from new and renewable energy as well as rebuilding our infrastructure. By comparing and contrasting How Trump is just an empty suit who believes in trickle down and has a conflict of interest problem.
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I'd bet at least half the comments here are pleasantly expecting to see Bill Clinton delegated the responsibility of overseeing domestic economy. That's what was promised, right?
So Hilary doesn't have to talk about it at all.
So Hilary doesn't have to talk about it at all.
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Attila the Hun would bring real change to Washington.
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Clinton needs to hammer Trump for his cluelessness about the
complexities of governing.
There will be huge costs to the U.S. in prestige, and yes, global
business too.
The world is begging American voters to put the whole nasty
'Trump thing' behind them.
complexities of governing.
There will be huge costs to the U.S. in prestige, and yes, global
business too.
The world is begging American voters to put the whole nasty
'Trump thing' behind them.
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US prestige? Do you mean the destabilization of the Middle East and the ensuing refugee crisis that is destabilizing the EU?
Global business? Do you mean our $500 Billion trade deficit?
Global business? Do you mean our $500 Billion trade deficit?
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thus Hillary has copied Trumps jet by placing her own jet in the background during her stump speeches, with her campaign slogan emblazoned across its fuselage. Half of each speech she dedicates to denigrating Trump. Her and Trump are polar opposites. Like black and white. Why she thinks Americans can't see it is beyond me. But the more she bashes him the more scared she acts. When she explains what she wants to do as president and then explains why Trumps plan is all wrong is offensive to Americans. Who does she think she is? Who is the real Hillary? She is a woman so used to getting her way that the slightest questioning of her thinking and beliefs gets her fuming. She comes across as a woman not to be reckoned with. Congress doesn't need that kind of a president.
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That's funny because she's always work well with everyone on both sides of the aisle entire career. She's made friends with people all over the world. On the other hand Donald Trump has never worked well with anybody ever.
People all over the world or aghast that he could possibly become president.
People all over the world or aghast that he could possibly become president.
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Thanks for contributing your ignorant nonsense to this discussion.
The handwringing by my fellow Hillary supporters is funny in a bitter way. If all the people who insist Trump cannot be allowed in the white house got involved on any level of the campaign -handwringing doesn't help and doesn't count- the election would not even be close. I adore Hillary and celebrate her candidacy but where are the rest of you? if you really loathe Trump and understand the threat of his candidacy, then why aren't people out working towards a huge win for democrats?
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They're too busy commenting on the Times site or any
number of other social media sites...which does not do very much.
number of other social media sites...which does not do very much.
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The poll captures the Trump promise very well. He will bring change. However, it is clear to anyone who is watching and able to understand, the change will not be positive. Trump lacks the essential abilities for the job. I fear too many of our fellow citizEns have no clue about what being president truly demands.
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Please feel free to attempt to educate the deplorables about the true demands of being president. Remember to go slowly, we are stupid and uneducated.
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It is a terrible reflection of the USA that so many voters would support a buffoon like Donald Trump.
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Aside from the deplorable observation that 40% of American voters will blindly vote Republican, even if the ticket consists of George Of The Jungle with my neighbor's deceased cat as his running mate, a Trump presidency carries more than just risks. It would carry the likelihood of a foreign policy and financial meltdown.
Even after the likely 30% drop in the Dow, I would still liquidate my US holdings that are not in precious metals and place them in Sterling or Yen. I would then seek political asylum elsewhere, probably Germany, where my wife is from, and still holds citizenship. That would probably be a useless gesture, I realize, as Trump would probably withdraw us from NATO and invite Putin to take control of Germany, including the part he was not used to ruling when he was stationed there with the KGB.
Even after the likely 30% drop in the Dow, I would still liquidate my US holdings that are not in precious metals and place them in Sterling or Yen. I would then seek political asylum elsewhere, probably Germany, where my wife is from, and still holds citizenship. That would probably be a useless gesture, I realize, as Trump would probably withdraw us from NATO and invite Putin to take control of Germany, including the part he was not used to ruling when he was stationed there with the KGB.
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Sounds like you are an American as long as your stocks are doing well. Don't forget to leave your US passport at the border.
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Trump is a very experienced and capable business leader and has accomplished numerous challenging project to his credit! He may not have held public office which is a good thing since he has not been tarnished by the deceit and underhanded methods used by politicians to gain popularity is not seeking fame or fortune since he already has achieved both.
He has the skills required to obtain the knowledge and expertise by hiring those experts in any field and learning from them whatever is required in order to succeed at the job. Hilary is a liar, deceitful, corrupt and tainted by her past relations both while acting as first lady to a corrupt president and serving as a government employee as the secretary of state and secretly making poor choices for the welfare and protection of our national security and the people of many war torn countries she has visited. We are much better off choosing a fresh start and allowing the much needed reforms to be implemented which Mr Trump clearly outlines that he will make on his website in great detail and without any hidden agendas or favor to special interests. Lets give him a chance!
He has the skills required to obtain the knowledge and expertise by hiring those experts in any field and learning from them whatever is required in order to succeed at the job. Hilary is a liar, deceitful, corrupt and tainted by her past relations both while acting as first lady to a corrupt president and serving as a government employee as the secretary of state and secretly making poor choices for the welfare and protection of our national security and the people of many war torn countries she has visited. We are much better off choosing a fresh start and allowing the much needed reforms to be implemented which Mr Trump clearly outlines that he will make on his website in great detail and without any hidden agendas or favor to special interests. Lets give him a chance!
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Successful businessman? You're being sarcastic, right?
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Trump wants to abolish the Environmental Protection Agency. That is enough to convince me of his total ignorance.
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Four points worth making:
1) The president doesn't manage the economy. Why 44% of polled peole seem to think he/she does speaks to our lack of required civics courses in high school, and general lack of understanding of economics.
2) Only one poll matters, the one on November 8th. And even then, the electoral college may come out different from the popular vote. These "give the media something to talk about" polls are meaningless, and may well tend to sway voter opinion.
3) That a significant percentage of people polled seem to believe Trump's bedtime stories with happy endings is mystifying. He's not bringing back steel making. He's not bringing back coal mining to appalachia. He's simply telling people what they want to hear.
4) Jobs went away because the nature of work changed, due to evolving computers, communications, automation, and transportation. The one single thing that chased investment and jobs out of the US is Congress's insistance on keeping the US corporate tax rate the highest among industrial nations on the planet. For the past 15 years, the other industrial nations have steadily lowered their corporate taxes. We have not. The result is investment in places like Ireland and England, and situations like Apple and Mylan.
We are in competition with other countries for jobs. Lower corporate taxes to be competitive, and we'll have more jobs.
1) The president doesn't manage the economy. Why 44% of polled peole seem to think he/she does speaks to our lack of required civics courses in high school, and general lack of understanding of economics.
2) Only one poll matters, the one on November 8th. And even then, the electoral college may come out different from the popular vote. These "give the media something to talk about" polls are meaningless, and may well tend to sway voter opinion.
3) That a significant percentage of people polled seem to believe Trump's bedtime stories with happy endings is mystifying. He's not bringing back steel making. He's not bringing back coal mining to appalachia. He's simply telling people what they want to hear.
4) Jobs went away because the nature of work changed, due to evolving computers, communications, automation, and transportation. The one single thing that chased investment and jobs out of the US is Congress's insistance on keeping the US corporate tax rate the highest among industrial nations on the planet. For the past 15 years, the other industrial nations have steadily lowered their corporate taxes. We have not. The result is investment in places like Ireland and England, and situations like Apple and Mylan.
We are in competition with other countries for jobs. Lower corporate taxes to be competitive, and we'll have more jobs.
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Will Apple and Nike make your i-phones and cross trainers in the US when their tax rates are lowered?
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Mr. Trump's rising poll numbers seem to reflect the advice he is no doubt getting from Roger Ailes: "Hide your inner psychopath until the election is over!"
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What is this thing with 'change'. Our economy is much, much, much improved - across the board. We are NOT embroiled in a new overseas conflict. We are, way to tentatively, addressing climate change - at least we have a President who 'believes' in Science.
What does Trump offer - a very secret plan to defeat ISIS. So secret he doesn't even keep it straight in his own mind. What we know is that it has belligerence and tough-guy maneuvers that might work in the kindergarten playground. There also seems to be some 'blowing ships out of the water' who make rude gestures at us.
At home, he promises economic growth like we have never seen - again very secret. On that score we know very well how Mr a trump has run his own companies - 4 bankruptcies, bribery, lying, selling 'snake-oil', stiffing small conractors - and if yes, making all his own products overseas. And his Foundation - no thought behind it beyond furthering Trump's own grandiosity, very little actual charity going on.
And to the Coal people - Trumpnis not bringing coal back. He's lying - coal is the 19th century - we're in the 21st century. Period. There are new technologies we should, and can, be leaders in - but nit with Trump who wants to go backward.
We've seen this before - mostly in Third Workd dictatorships - not in the USA!
What does Trump offer - a very secret plan to defeat ISIS. So secret he doesn't even keep it straight in his own mind. What we know is that it has belligerence and tough-guy maneuvers that might work in the kindergarten playground. There also seems to be some 'blowing ships out of the water' who make rude gestures at us.
At home, he promises economic growth like we have never seen - again very secret. On that score we know very well how Mr a trump has run his own companies - 4 bankruptcies, bribery, lying, selling 'snake-oil', stiffing small conractors - and if yes, making all his own products overseas. And his Foundation - no thought behind it beyond furthering Trump's own grandiosity, very little actual charity going on.
And to the Coal people - Trumpnis not bringing coal back. He's lying - coal is the 19th century - we're in the 21st century. Period. There are new technologies we should, and can, be leaders in - but nit with Trump who wants to go backward.
We've seen this before - mostly in Third Workd dictatorships - not in the USA!
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Still baffled. Hillary Clinton has invested her whole adult life in issues that will improve the welfare of all Americans, starting with those most in need. Trump has invested only in himself and continues to do so. Maybe she is a flawed candidate (I don't think so) but she will be a great president.
The headline of this article is misleading. Interesting that the only major category where this poll shows Trump in the lead is creating jobs - really? - the argument of the Republicans is that the government does not create jobs. Clinton is far ahead in all other areas. So where is the risk?
The headline of this article is misleading. Interesting that the only major category where this poll shows Trump in the lead is creating jobs - really? - the argument of the Republicans is that the government does not create jobs. Clinton is far ahead in all other areas. So where is the risk?
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Here's an interesting snapshot from Billary's "whole adult life" clearly showing her interest in improving "the welfare of all Americans":
http://www.wsj.com/articles/travel-back-to-an-early-clinton-scandal-1473...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/travel-back-to-an-early-clinton-scandal-1473...
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Colin Powell is right. The Clintons saw politics as a money game and continue to court Wall Street. Hillary saw the Sanders campaign as an obstacle to overcome rather than the writing on the wall. She is secretive and probably greedy as Powell has stated. By playing power politics she will protect the tragic dismantling of the middle class rather than be transformative and work at reversing it. Trump is a buffoon and anyone with half a brain would know he will not deliver 25 million good paying jobs much less 25 million of any kind of jobs. He doesn't pay people who work for him. In an electorate that craves belief over facts and ideology over reality despite polls that say otherwise Trump's focus on the economic fears and hopes of the economically dispossessed may turn the tide, despite their being fake. Instead of heeding why Sanders surged, she will avoid the change we need as she is incapable of speaking meaningfully to most Americans, instead meeting privately to assure elites their livelihoods are safe while taking their money.
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Tom, anybody with half a brain would think that it is better to aim for 25,000,000 jobs and not reach the goal than to play footsie with the One Percenters while the deplorable mob founders.
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Are you saying she should listened to the no nothing's?
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Let's be perfectly honest. A Trump presidency would entail big risks with very little reward. Unlike Trump's businesses, in which he can profit while others are left holding the bag, a president cannot bankrupt or put the nation on the brink of thermonuclear war and escape the wrath of the American people. No, there is no win-lose with Trump. It's a lose-lose proposition, and pity the foolish Trump supporter who thinks otherwise.
That is why here in NYC and NYS Trump will suffer a "tremendous" defeat. We who know him most like him the least. We judge Trump not by his braggadocio but by his actions, and they are, as Hillary put it, deplorable. Trump care for no one except himself. Never has, never will.
DD
Manhattan
That is why here in NYC and NYS Trump will suffer a "tremendous" defeat. We who know him most like him the least. We judge Trump not by his braggadocio but by his actions, and they are, as Hillary put it, deplorable. Trump care for no one except himself. Never has, never will.
DD
Manhattan
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This has got to be hyperbole meant to sell news and ratings not report reality. In reality Trump is fraud. Bankruptcy may be a shrewd business tactic to leave creditors responsible for bad decisions. Our children's children are the ones who will pay for Trumps bankrupt American economy. How does leading the Trump University that failed its' students translate into effective government leadership skills? How can a morally corrupt person like Trump continue to lead the world forward a President Obama has?
Hillary, in reality, is a Saint compared to Trump, She has been part of an administration that has historic proof of economic success. She participated as a world leader in the current administrations' restoring of USA great leadership role in the worlds global affairs. She will demonstrate the strength
American women have and earn the respect they deserve when she leaves Trump groveling in the debris of shattered ceiling glass.
Dump Trump!
Hale Hillary,
Hillary, in reality, is a Saint compared to Trump, She has been part of an administration that has historic proof of economic success. She participated as a world leader in the current administrations' restoring of USA great leadership role in the worlds global affairs. She will demonstrate the strength
American women have and earn the respect they deserve when she leaves Trump groveling in the debris of shattered ceiling glass.
Dump Trump!
Hale Hillary,
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Trump's change from my pocket to his. That is the only change he would bring to government. Look at the bankruptcies.
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Trump's business scams, his idiocy when it comes to policy, and so on, are not what supporters of Trump believe. Educating them is difficult and probably pointless. I imagine what drives many of the non-vocal supporters of Trump (not his psycho supporters) is an understanding that government hasn't helped them. They see government as turning it's back on them.
Clinton would do well to showcase some sort of new policy that no one has heard from any politician. To show she can think out of the box. (yes, I know she can think out of the box, but still) Build a wall between America and Mexico? Absolutely absurd and pointless, but still - it is something new.
If the referendum is between Clinton and Trump and who would be the worse, Clinton might actually lose that one. People are just now starting to pay attention. For those with a Twitter style attention span, the glitz is more effective.
This year is all about change. (which, personally, I prefer not as the economy under Obama has been staggeringly successful in all economic measurements).
I said from the beginning that Clinton, somehow, someway, will snatch victory from the jaws of victory. That she would again blatantly lie about something she didn't need to lie about and could be easily disproven. Like having pneumonia.
It isn't the economy this year. It is change.
Clinton would do well to showcase some sort of new policy that no one has heard from any politician. To show she can think out of the box. (yes, I know she can think out of the box, but still) Build a wall between America and Mexico? Absolutely absurd and pointless, but still - it is something new.
If the referendum is between Clinton and Trump and who would be the worse, Clinton might actually lose that one. People are just now starting to pay attention. For those with a Twitter style attention span, the glitz is more effective.
This year is all about change. (which, personally, I prefer not as the economy under Obama has been staggeringly successful in all economic measurements).
I said from the beginning that Clinton, somehow, someway, will snatch victory from the jaws of victory. That she would again blatantly lie about something she didn't need to lie about and could be easily disproven. Like having pneumonia.
It isn't the economy this year. It is change.
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David, you are half right, which is pretty good for a smug liberal who can read peoples' minds. It is about change.
You are half wrong, which is still way above average for a liberal. It IS about the economy. It is always about the economy in a presidential election. People vote their wallets. The people supporting Clinton have fat wallets. The people she lunched with following the DNC convention have really fat wallets. Fat Wallets are Clinton's base.
Even Obama was gloating about "his" economy last week. Remember his "Thanks, Obama" remark? He was echoing the One Percenters who are cleaning up in your staggeringly successful economy. Obama could hear them way out in the Hamptons and on Martha's Vineyard. "Thanks, Obama".
In reality, which is a concept liberals aren't familiar with, the staggeringly successful economy has a $20 Trillion dollar debt that cost $400 Billion to service every year, a $500 Billion trade deficit, a $1.25 Trillion student loan albatross, and massive structural underemployment. To name a few impediments.
It is change. Economic change. The Deplorable Economy must change for EVERYONE'S sake.
You are half wrong, which is still way above average for a liberal. It IS about the economy. It is always about the economy in a presidential election. People vote their wallets. The people supporting Clinton have fat wallets. The people she lunched with following the DNC convention have really fat wallets. Fat Wallets are Clinton's base.
Even Obama was gloating about "his" economy last week. Remember his "Thanks, Obama" remark? He was echoing the One Percenters who are cleaning up in your staggeringly successful economy. Obama could hear them way out in the Hamptons and on Martha's Vineyard. "Thanks, Obama".
In reality, which is a concept liberals aren't familiar with, the staggeringly successful economy has a $20 Trillion dollar debt that cost $400 Billion to service every year, a $500 Billion trade deficit, a $1.25 Trillion student loan albatross, and massive structural underemployment. To name a few impediments.
It is change. Economic change. The Deplorable Economy must change for EVERYONE'S sake.
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TRUMP'S Economic skills are abysmal! He has had 15 business failures and 4 bankruptcies. Trump is going to be tried for fraud in late November related to the Trump "University." I'd be terrified of his impact on the economy. If it's anything like his business performance, get ready for Great Depression 2.0 at least. His latest harebrained scheme is to withdraw military support from allies to save money. Along with the savings, though, you can kiss goodbye to any stabilizing influence that the US has globally. Just sit back and watch China, Russia, North Korea and Iran--the power of those 4 nations that could all go rogue--take over globally. Very very very bad idea!
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We sure stabilized the Middle East didn't we? We fooled the Iranians into accepting billions of dollars to delay their bombs for a few years. Brilliant. The North Koreans are quaking in their fallout shelters. China will stop expanding into the South China Sea any day now that we are climate change buddies. The Sauds love us, what with the $115 Billion worth of war toys POTUS calmed them with. And Putin? Well, we need one bad guy in the world to aim our missiles at, don't we.
We sure don't want Trump to screw up this sweet deal.
We sure don't want Trump to screw up this sweet deal.
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"Only 36 percent of them (voters), however, view her as an agent of change. That perception deeply worries some Clinton campaign advisers, who want the race to hinge on Mr. Trump’s character rather than voters’ desire to upend the status quo."
1. Thanks to the media's overwhelming coverage of him voters have a crystal clear understanding of Mr. Trump's character (whether favorable or unfavorable). Clinton wastes her time trying to play that card.
2. Voters have also made it crystal clear they want the status quo upended. Wild and crazy Trump beat every one of the Republicans' establishment candidates. Sanders came very, very close to upending Clinton's primary campaign.
3. Voters to the left and voters to the right have had it with the status quo. The establishment has failed for the vast majority of Americans. We have finally seen through the opaqueness of the establishment (both the democractic party and the republican party) and we finally recognize its obeisance to the rich, its obeisance to the military/industrial/ financial complex.
4. Trump has taken the establishment's philosophies to such an extreme it looks (falsely) as if he is a radical agent of change but he's just stripped away the sheep's clothing. Clinton simply regurgites the existing establishment scam.
Gagging.
1. Thanks to the media's overwhelming coverage of him voters have a crystal clear understanding of Mr. Trump's character (whether favorable or unfavorable). Clinton wastes her time trying to play that card.
2. Voters have also made it crystal clear they want the status quo upended. Wild and crazy Trump beat every one of the Republicans' establishment candidates. Sanders came very, very close to upending Clinton's primary campaign.
3. Voters to the left and voters to the right have had it with the status quo. The establishment has failed for the vast majority of Americans. We have finally seen through the opaqueness of the establishment (both the democractic party and the republican party) and we finally recognize its obeisance to the rich, its obeisance to the military/industrial/ financial complex.
4. Trump has taken the establishment's philosophies to such an extreme it looks (falsely) as if he is a radical agent of change but he's just stripped away the sheep's clothing. Clinton simply regurgites the existing establishment scam.
Gagging.
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Not to forget that the Libertarian and Green candidates also represent discontent with the entrenched political establishment.
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In my opinion Donald Trump is fundamentally dishonorable. No cause more important than maintaining his belief that he is the smartest, greatest person the world has ever known. That millions support him is deeply disheartening.
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We know that Trump is not the greatest and smartest of all time, because the Clintons are.
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Let's please get real my fellow Americans....
If you want to change things up in Washington, the best way to do it is to stop voting for the same self interested set of incumbents who make up Congress year after year. This wacky press corps seems to want us folks to think that things can only change from the top down poll after poll. Well guess what? It doesn't have to if we start from the bottom first. So find out more on what's going on in your own town. But do so with an understanding that we are in this together. Don't let anyone tell you that only they alone can change things for you.
If you want to change things up in Washington, the best way to do it is to stop voting for the same self interested set of incumbents who make up Congress year after year. This wacky press corps seems to want us folks to think that things can only change from the top down poll after poll. Well guess what? It doesn't have to if we start from the bottom first. So find out more on what's going on in your own town. But do so with an understanding that we are in this together. Don't let anyone tell you that only they alone can change things for you.
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Saying her "unfavorability ratings among voters" is like saying Red Sox unfavorability rating among Red Sox and Yankee fans.
A word about Mike Pence: he has given dignity a bad name.
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Let's assume that Trump wins. It will be very interesting -to say the least- to witness the reaction of his core base when his promises, one by one, remain unfulfilled. Just imagine their accumulated frustration.
Violence on the streets is a possibility.
Violence on the streets is a possibility.
Many voters obviously resent having to vote for a status quo candidate who embraces Wall Street dollars, just because the alternative is worse, and therefore are willing to take a chance. I don't blame them, HRC was a poor choice for this election cycle when a lot of people are looking for hope and change.
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I agree. But to those people who are willing to take this 'chance': if you want to set our cause back a decade, then don't vote for Clinton, and let the lying 'billionaire' who won't release his tax returns win.
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Top 10 reasons (so far) why Hillary lost the election:
1) Runs sneering, dishonest campaign against 74 yr old Bernie Sanders who lights a fire under young voters, beating her repeatedly - alienates them, doesn't reach out.
2) Takes African American vote for granted - turns out African American millenials don't trust her. Doesn't reach out.
3) Picks experienced but boring, uninspiring running mate - her own worst qualities.
4) Spends August AWOL @ celebrity fundraisers & 'resting up for fall campaign' while Trump tears around country like Tasmanian Devil ripping her to pieces, owning news cycles. Duh.
5) Says "We're going to put a lot of coal miners & coal companies out of business." WOW. Duh. Trump responds: "Hillary doesn't care about people like you."
6) Ill with pneumonia - doesn't inform staff, stumbles, initially covers up. Media & Trump make hay. Duh.
7) Castigates Trump supporters: 'deplorables' "misogynistic, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic" WOW. Duh. Didn't work for Romney either! Trump responds "She doesn't care about people like you!"
8) Colin Powell ('most respected man in America'), longtime Hillary "friend" hacked emails say:"everything she touches she screws up with hubris" "unbridled ambition, greedy" "I'd rather not have to vote for her" OUCH.
9) Out-of-touch, over-confident campaign staff
10) Trump benefits from bizarre media 'false equivalency,' gets pass on fraud, lies, racism, insanity, bad character
And that was all it took.....
1) Runs sneering, dishonest campaign against 74 yr old Bernie Sanders who lights a fire under young voters, beating her repeatedly - alienates them, doesn't reach out.
2) Takes African American vote for granted - turns out African American millenials don't trust her. Doesn't reach out.
3) Picks experienced but boring, uninspiring running mate - her own worst qualities.
4) Spends August AWOL @ celebrity fundraisers & 'resting up for fall campaign' while Trump tears around country like Tasmanian Devil ripping her to pieces, owning news cycles. Duh.
5) Says "We're going to put a lot of coal miners & coal companies out of business." WOW. Duh. Trump responds: "Hillary doesn't care about people like you."
6) Ill with pneumonia - doesn't inform staff, stumbles, initially covers up. Media & Trump make hay. Duh.
7) Castigates Trump supporters: 'deplorables' "misogynistic, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic" WOW. Duh. Didn't work for Romney either! Trump responds "She doesn't care about people like you!"
8) Colin Powell ('most respected man in America'), longtime Hillary "friend" hacked emails say:"everything she touches she screws up with hubris" "unbridled ambition, greedy" "I'd rather not have to vote for her" OUCH.
9) Out-of-touch, over-confident campaign staff
10) Trump benefits from bizarre media 'false equivalency,' gets pass on fraud, lies, racism, insanity, bad character
And that was all it took.....
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Just shows that a seemed belt solid argument can be utterly devoid of wisdom and good sense. Fast and furiius's defense of the flimflam man puts her/him in a bad light.
If Mrs. Clinton is deeply worried about being viewed as 'an agent of change' perhaps she should discuss how her policies would differ from President Obama. Or better yet just discuss her policies more fully instead of spending all her time coughing, passing out and insulting Trump. Hillary's campaign in 2008 started the birther movement and I view her as every bit the racist that Trump is.
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Don't be silly. If she were a racist, Obama wouldn't have endorsed her.
NOBODY is as racist as Trump - NOBODY!
NOBODY is as racist as Trump - NOBODY!
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Obviously you have not even looked at her website or listen to her try it before you pass judgement and vote
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I intensely despise both candidates. But the thought of Trump's finger on the nuclear trigger scares me to death.
So I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary.
What's most disgusting is that our system cannot find better qualified candidates.
So I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary.
What's most disgusting is that our system cannot find better qualified candidates.
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Uh, your candidate is the only one with a record of actually dropping bombs on people. And supporting corrupt coups. And voting for wars.
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Uhhh, Margaret, Hillary has never dropped a bomb on anyone. Reality is calling you, and it wants you to come back.
Unless Congress changes significantly (not just party control), Washington will be as deadlocked as always, even with Trump. The only way I see this is he ends up expanding executive privelege bypassing and eventually getting rid of Congress. That my friends, would create a very scary situation on top of Trump's plans to limit the Press to avoid any criticism. And despite how many feel, we live in a global environment where name calling and fighting with allies will end up as a disaster.
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Clinton would be wise to completely adopt Bernie Sanders platform. Nothing she says inspires me. She has been at this so long and has leaned toward votes and money rather than true beliefs and a transformational platform that I don't know if Hillary knows what she stands for anymore.
Her willingness to court money and maintain the wealthy as the bedrock of our government scares me. In my mind, she stands for everything that is wrong with our government. America has been forgotten in the quest for monied donors and votes. I am not sure Trump could be more damaging than that.
I will be voting for Stein.
Her willingness to court money and maintain the wealthy as the bedrock of our government scares me. In my mind, she stands for everything that is wrong with our government. America has been forgotten in the quest for monied donors and votes. I am not sure Trump could be more damaging than that.
I will be voting for Stein.
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Don't be silly. Vote for Stein, get Trump.
Maybe you don't remember: In 1980, if you voted for Nader, you got Bush.
And we all know how that worked out.
Vote for Stein only If you want to set back Sanders' movement by a decade.
Maybe you don't remember: In 1980, if you voted for Nader, you got Bush.
And we all know how that worked out.
Vote for Stein only If you want to set back Sanders' movement by a decade.
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Sexism! People are not talking about this because it's nearly impossible to measure and easy for anybody to deny, even though every woman has likely been discriminated against because she's a woman. People never actually say that, of course, but sexism is subtle and ingrained in some people.
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Only arrogance will be able to make any difference in Washington DC. Bottom line I am tired of them burning the hard earned tax dollars I pay. I am willing to take a chance on Trump. I like his family and that says a lot about a person. Look at what experience has gotten us 19 Trillion in debt.
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A war based on lies will lead to a trillion-dollar debt Trump as president with a Republican House and Senate will lead to the end of this country
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I say to Republicans, this is what you get when you conspire to make Washington dysfunctional, an idiot with a sledgehammer...
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Obama has been helping, and it would serve Hillary and her supporters if he helps with more speeches. Elections are about substance but they're also about charisma. Some people have it. Some people have less of it. It's irrational, charisma is. Obama and Bill have it in heaps. Hillary less so, and she's said as much. I'm now worried about the election. It's imperative that the orange, bloviating clown not win. The safety of the world depends on that fact. I support Hillary, but she needs a boost from a charismatic presence -- Obama would be great. He's been great at the speeches given so far to support her candidacy, and I truly (cross my fingers truly) hopes he delivers more speeches to support her.
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The notion that Hillary can win this is correct. The distrust that Donald has sown about her is not quite like the racism that Bush\Atwater sowed about Dukakis. They've worn her down a bit yes, but she still has her dignity. The distrust in this case is also being sown by a flim flam man, i.e. a man who is totally unworthy of trust himself. Hillary back on a big stage, the debates, will show that he is a snake oil salesman, a phony, a fraud--to borrow the most accurate characterization yet, by Mitt.
I believe Mitt Romney stated the facts clearly last election. 47% of the people receive assistance from Washington, DC. They want the gravy train to continue as it is. The 53% of the people have to support it.
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the "ugliness, this bigotry" that HRC want to stop resides in her heart, (and, of course, in some of the DNC burn the bern emails)...hard for at least one life long democrat to get past the fibs and covers and "oops" and "never again" dodges that will never play on the world stage (her failure, in her "return" speech, to mention ISIS in her litany of our challenges an example)...trump, no bargain, seems to have grown some, while HRC, is still stuck on the birther thing, a ploy she tried herself (!) when she was running against BHO, still unable to look us in the eye, still talking to us as if we had the intelligence of potted plants...she is the risk.
all the tortured comment and analysis, "lesser of two evils," etc., defines our predicament...hard to imagine we'd be here if bernie was at the other end of the seesaw.
all the tortured comment and analysis, "lesser of two evils," etc., defines our predicament...hard to imagine we'd be here if bernie was at the other end of the seesaw.
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I have tried to follow this thing for the last year and I fail to see the reward part of President Trump. He has said many things, changed his position on the same issues etc, however he has never said how he will really accomplish the things he says. I read in yesterdays times about a coal miner just doing odd jobs waiting for Trump to be elected and bring back coal. Poor guy has a very long wait because coal is not coming back no matter who is elected. On the other hand altho Hillary's plans are not so headline grabbing I can see her getting some of the stuff done.
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Matt Lauer should be asking himself of his "forum" - "what did I do?"
And his bosses should be asking themselves "why did we let him do it?"
That program and Lauer's handling of it are the perfect examples of the press/media glorifying Donald Trump. Ok for the Lauers of the country who maybe would be unaffected by whoever gets in, but come on, Matt, what about the rest of us?
The Lauer show might be old news to some. But to many of us, a sizzling example that is yet burning yet with our anger about the favoritism that the media has given to Donald Trump.
This isn't a show, press. This is not your life (an old show). This is our life.
You let us down. And we're the ones along with the whole country that have the potential to pay for it because of your Trump glorification process.
You let him lie, you let him fabricate, you allow his vulgarity and keep giving him more, more, more, no matter the ramifications of your irresponsibility.
Not a Republican, but there is something to be said for all of them who won't give Trump the time of day.
And his bosses should be asking themselves "why did we let him do it?"
That program and Lauer's handling of it are the perfect examples of the press/media glorifying Donald Trump. Ok for the Lauers of the country who maybe would be unaffected by whoever gets in, but come on, Matt, what about the rest of us?
The Lauer show might be old news to some. But to many of us, a sizzling example that is yet burning yet with our anger about the favoritism that the media has given to Donald Trump.
This isn't a show, press. This is not your life (an old show). This is our life.
You let us down. And we're the ones along with the whole country that have the potential to pay for it because of your Trump glorification process.
You let him lie, you let him fabricate, you allow his vulgarity and keep giving him more, more, more, no matter the ramifications of your irresponsibility.
Not a Republican, but there is something to be said for all of them who won't give Trump the time of day.
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Just remember civil rights and the gains made to date, women's rights and abortion rights, economic gains and recovery. Civil rights gains that have been made under Obama will be out the window if Trump is elected, he was forced by people in his campaign to even speak at a Black church. He has fueled the fire of racism at every turn. Just look at his rallies. His opinion of women is despicable as his statements have alluded to on Howard Stern and the debates, so if you thing abortion and women's right are safe think again. He will stack the Supreme Court against women. Finally, when president all rich people should rejoice because your savior is here, he will attempt to make the tax codes and everything else favorable to you because he is one of you.
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Hillary Clinton has been in politics for 30 years, she has 2 presidents stumping for her and helping her from the wings, including the one in office, she works very hard, she raised 1 billion for her campaign, 90% of the media supports her, and minimizes all her issues, and yet she polls like a real estate newcomer that everyone tried to bring down for a year.
She is a VERY weak candidate, popular only with old people, and the Dems are punished for killing Sander's candidacy. Even now, when it is clear she has Parkinson (I watched a moving video done by a doctor on YouTube), the Dems won't bring Sanders back.
She is a VERY weak candidate, popular only with old people, and the Dems are punished for killing Sander's candidacy. Even now, when it is clear she has Parkinson (I watched a moving video done by a doctor on YouTube), the Dems won't bring Sanders back.
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Where do voters get the idea that Trump would shake things up in Washington if elected? He can't even get Republican Congressional leaders to support his "Big Ideas" on anything except a bigger military budget. He probably has some pretty dramatic plans for expanding the TrumpWorld White House to a few thousand rooms with sweeping views of the Great Wall of Mexico and its own TrumpWorld National Casino where nobody ever wins but Trump. That, plus his "always on" TrumpWorld National Twitter feed, should keep him busy and away from breast-thumping fights with PutinWorld.
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We have: (1) a seasoned politician with a checkered past, (2) a something-aire businessman who has filed numerous bankruptcies, been accused of fraud, and has no political experience, (3) a stoner who is unaware of one of the pertinent global issues facing the world today, and (4) a doctor wanted by the police for defacing private property and trespassing.
What question is there? This isn't a reality television show that can go to commercial if something goes wrong -- this is real life. There are no do-overs, no commercial breaks, no time outs to smoke a joint and relax, no room to commit crimes for amusement and/or rebellion. This is serious, and I get that in the face of everything that's happened to our country since 9/11 -- with the war, the mass-shootings, the numerous sexual assault cases, the acts of terrorism and hate -- that it feels better to think that things are no big deal, that we can have an easy fix, that this is something that we can clean up with some simple press of a button. But, in case you haven't noticed: reality doesn't work like that. Life is messy and complicated. It's really hard, and it needs somebody who can persist through that, who can face it and not make excuses, who can take responsibility and blame when it's theirs, and work to be better.
I don't personally like Ms. Clinton, but this isn't about 'like,' it's about ability -- and she has it. I'm yet to see anybody else who does.
What question is there? This isn't a reality television show that can go to commercial if something goes wrong -- this is real life. There are no do-overs, no commercial breaks, no time outs to smoke a joint and relax, no room to commit crimes for amusement and/or rebellion. This is serious, and I get that in the face of everything that's happened to our country since 9/11 -- with the war, the mass-shootings, the numerous sexual assault cases, the acts of terrorism and hate -- that it feels better to think that things are no big deal, that we can have an easy fix, that this is something that we can clean up with some simple press of a button. But, in case you haven't noticed: reality doesn't work like that. Life is messy and complicated. It's really hard, and it needs somebody who can persist through that, who can face it and not make excuses, who can take responsibility and blame when it's theirs, and work to be better.
I don't personally like Ms. Clinton, but this isn't about 'like,' it's about ability -- and she has it. I'm yet to see anybody else who does.
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How any reasonably intelligent person can support Trump is beyond me. I understand the anger and frustration at gridlock in Washington but don't think it's ever a good idea to make very important decisions when you're angry. The whole scenario also reflects a certain degree of laziness and voter apathy---we'll take the flashy pitchman with slick promises and no substance over the more sober and sedate policy wonk who has the experience. Trump is like political cotton candy---tastes really good but definitely not something to eat a lot of and has absolutely no real nutritional value. And if Trump were as thoroughly investigated as Clinton has been I'm sure we'd find many things to give voters serious pause in November. I sure hope that voters don't prove they are as stupid as I think.
Voters should beware. Just because somebody speaks their mind and says bold things doesn't necessarily mean that what they say is smart or wise or even at all practical. Donald Trump as President would be a very big mistake that I hope American voters do not make. Electing Trump would cause a major hangover that America would never recover from. Imagine America waking up after Election day with a massive hangover that won't go away. A major hangover for at least four years. That hangover would be Donald Trump as President.
Voters should beware. Just because somebody speaks their mind and says bold things doesn't necessarily mean that what they say is smart or wise or even at all practical. Donald Trump as President would be a very big mistake that I hope American voters do not make. Electing Trump would cause a major hangover that America would never recover from. Imagine America waking up after Election day with a massive hangover that won't go away. A major hangover for at least four years. That hangover would be Donald Trump as President.
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Why would a reasonable person believe that Trump's self-serving conclusory opinions about himself and what he will do have a solid basis in reality ? Could it possibly be because the working press does not know how to bring out the
well-accepted point that Trump has no credibility and is a huckster and a con-man who will keep trying to "get away" with whatever he can until called to account?
well-accepted point that Trump has no credibility and is a huckster and a con-man who will keep trying to "get away" with whatever he can until called to account?
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It's hardly worth the effort to say it again (what difference, at this point, does it make?), but I could substitute Clinton for Trump in your comment and it would be equally true. (Although, technically, I guess I would have to write "con-woman.")
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The calculus for Democratic Party leaders should now be blindingly clear: they can continue to support Hillary Clinton as their nominee, or they can chose victory on November 8. They cannot have both. All the luck and all the momentum is turning against HRC now, at the worst possible moment (just this morning, the latest poll out of Michigan shows Trump pulling within the margin of error, in a state that was a month ago considered super-safe for HRC - in other words, the all important electoral college math is beginning to follow the national polls). The switch to Biden or Kaine, most likely Biden, needs to happen very soon, in advance of the first debate. HRC has the perfect (health) reason to step down, and for once do something gracefully and for the greater good. By putting the country's interests first, she will have assured a Democratic president in 2017.
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I worry about Hillary Clinton's health. Hillary Clinton fainted in public in 2005, 2009, 2013, and now 2016. Her fainting spell in 2009 resulted in a broken elbow that required surgery, and her fainting spell in 2013 resulted in a concussion that affected her physically and mentally for six months while she was secretary of state.
In addition to the public fainting spells, there have been rumors and photographs of similar fainting spells, like that after her 9-hour grueling hearing about Benghazi and at an event where she had to be supported climbing a short flight of stairs.
In his recent interview, Bill Clinton said that Hillary Clinton "frequently, well not frequently, rarely" suffers from fainting spells when she gets dehydrated. So Hillary Clinton knows she has a problem with that. And she, according to several press reports, travels on the campaign trail with a personal physician to prevent exactly the sort of fainting spell that happened on Sunday. Yet it happened anyway.
Hillary Clinton's doctor Lisa Bardack knows about the fainting spells. She knows that Hillary Clinton needs to avoid them to avoid injury. She should tell us what she knows.
We deserve to know whether our president has a medical condition that may incapacitate her under stress. It may not disqualify her from the presidency. But voters should decide that, not Lisa Bardack.
In addition to the public fainting spells, there have been rumors and photographs of similar fainting spells, like that after her 9-hour grueling hearing about Benghazi and at an event where she had to be supported climbing a short flight of stairs.
In his recent interview, Bill Clinton said that Hillary Clinton "frequently, well not frequently, rarely" suffers from fainting spells when she gets dehydrated. So Hillary Clinton knows she has a problem with that. And she, according to several press reports, travels on the campaign trail with a personal physician to prevent exactly the sort of fainting spell that happened on Sunday. Yet it happened anyway.
Hillary Clinton's doctor Lisa Bardack knows about the fainting spells. She knows that Hillary Clinton needs to avoid them to avoid injury. She should tell us what she knows.
We deserve to know whether our president has a medical condition that may incapacitate her under stress. It may not disqualify her from the presidency. But voters should decide that, not Lisa Bardack.
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It is unethical and a violation of HIPAA regulations for a physician to disclose a patient's medical history without that person's permission.
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Once again once again two of the lead articles in what used to be an esteemed journalistic newspaper are about Trump. Who really cares whether some people have divergent views on him or that he's still keeping attention on his Birther nonsense? And why have the "journalists" and their editors stooped to writing and publishing this type of material about the conman without also sharing news about the dull and wonky candidate who actually has something to say. If this country manages to make a mockery of this election, it will be on the head of the Grey Lady to have contributed ot the debacle
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I think many voters think that Hillary holds back what she really thinks while Trump does not. Problem is that what Trump thinks and says changes all the time. He flip flops a lot. But voters hear things they like, decide to vote for him and fail to realize that the thoughts de jour are now different. It's hard to know who to trust. That said I am basing my vote on the long term stances of each candidate hoping that historical positions represent the heart of each candidate. I am disregarding any personal mistakes and conspiracy rumors. My vote will be based on the political body of work of a candidate. For that reason, I will vote for Hillary. The single most important issue for me is racial justice. Hillary has consistently stood for it since college. Trump had not and in fact has a history of using race to inflame and divide people. I think it is time to live the ideals of the Constitution, especially the equal protection amendment and the right to vote. Trump has no regard or respect for the Constititionand and appears only to use the law to avoid paying his bills. That is not the way to make America great.
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When was the last time Trump held a press conference ? His penchant for secrecy is starting to hurt him.
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It saddens me that a human who once was but a flip between the channels has become a possibility to replace the most "perfect" president we will ever see.
Shame on everyone.
Shame on everyone.
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It is the media echo chamber and limited bandwidth.
The notion of a Clinton trust deficit is reinforced daily by the lazy media.
When email comes up her words are dissected like Talmudic passages.
But when the story of PR agent John Miller (aka Donald Trump) feeding news sources stories to media, it went a couple of days in the news cycle.
Donald was underestimating his wealth during his divorces to cheat his wife in court but fending off myriad advances from supermodels who knew the truth of his vast wealth, according to John.
Donald Trump has a burning wreckage of a business career where he brags of enriching himself at the expense of creditors, investors and contractors.
He has been in over 3,000 law suits and is currently being sued for fraud.
He made donations to attorney generals hearing his fraud cases in states from his Trump Foundation and miraculously the states decide not to prosecute.
When a Federal Judge can't be bought and does prosecute, he attacks him as biased for his Mexican heritage.
He claimed at the out set to be worth $10 billion and would self-finance.
Then he disavows the claim and takes money from any source that will give it and he spends much of the political contributions at his companies.
He fawns over dictators and the Russians are helping to elect him.
Clinton and Trump are polar opposites - but the media can't ask Trump the hard questions that they regularly ask Clinton - even when the country's very future depends on it.
The notion of a Clinton trust deficit is reinforced daily by the lazy media.
When email comes up her words are dissected like Talmudic passages.
But when the story of PR agent John Miller (aka Donald Trump) feeding news sources stories to media, it went a couple of days in the news cycle.
Donald was underestimating his wealth during his divorces to cheat his wife in court but fending off myriad advances from supermodels who knew the truth of his vast wealth, according to John.
Donald Trump has a burning wreckage of a business career where he brags of enriching himself at the expense of creditors, investors and contractors.
He has been in over 3,000 law suits and is currently being sued for fraud.
He made donations to attorney generals hearing his fraud cases in states from his Trump Foundation and miraculously the states decide not to prosecute.
When a Federal Judge can't be bought and does prosecute, he attacks him as biased for his Mexican heritage.
He claimed at the out set to be worth $10 billion and would self-finance.
Then he disavows the claim and takes money from any source that will give it and he spends much of the political contributions at his companies.
He fawns over dictators and the Russians are helping to elect him.
Clinton and Trump are polar opposites - but the media can't ask Trump the hard questions that they regularly ask Clinton - even when the country's very future depends on it.
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Glad to be on board!
"her words are dissected like Talmudic passages."
It would be nice if, instead, she could bring herself to give just one straight answer, to any question at all, to prove she has it in her.
It would be nice if, instead, she could bring herself to give just one straight answer, to any question at all, to prove she has it in her.
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ZERO rewards!
As far as risk goes, I'd rather eat glass with a side of rusted nails, and wash it down with strychnine.
As far as risk goes, I'd rather eat glass with a side of rusted nails, and wash it down with strychnine.
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I have been saying since late 2015 that Donald Trump will win the Presidency. The average citizen is so parched for someone they feel is in their corner, that in the absence of it, they will drink sand thinking it's water. Enter Trump. Madame Secretary's deplorables comment has sealed the deal. She will not recover. The Democratic party is no longer the party of the common man. The degrading comments by NYT readers, safe in their bubble of utter hypocrisy, illustrate the total lack of collective self-awareness this party has succumbed to.
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Lily
Do you think trump is a worthy candidate?
Do you think trump is a worthy candidate?
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It's simply crazy that anyone would think a grifter like Trump is "in their corner," what with the fraud of Trump U., his incredible record of stiffing, over and over, contractors he's hired, the multiple bankruptcies to get out of paying his debts, on and on.
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Television rules the land and Trump is the Television man.
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It such a myth that he is an "outsider" or anything than a member of the billionaire elite club. Afraid to show the voters his taxes. Romney is correct--there's a bombshell in there. Is it Putin money, is it Mob money, charity money that wasn't paid?
As for taking a chance on a know-nothing on defense or dealing with our enemies and allies. What could go wrong? How about another 9/11, or nuclear war?
As for taking a chance on a know-nothing on defense or dealing with our enemies and allies. What could go wrong? How about another 9/11, or nuclear war?
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The volatility in this cycle points to a clearly and disturbingly schizophrenic electorate. Regardless, the choice is clear and unambiguous. One can vote for an opportunist who is willing to say and do anything to get elected or one can vote for a person with depth, experience ,and a clear minded view for the job. I have been through the ringer this past year, watching my country being dragged through the mud by Donald Trump. I am embarrassed by his candidacy and I am angry at my fellow citizen Trump supporters for their vindictiveness, their shortsightedness and their utter lack of confidence in our country.
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It seems like Hillary Clinton might be pretty close to being a corpse by the time she enters white house. So perhaps Donald Trump is actually better. Do yourselves a favor and vote Jill Stein folks. She's the only one who actually stands up for the people.
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A Stein voter repeating Breitbart misinformation? How bizarre.
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America is full of talented people and yet we end up with two inept, incompetent and corrupt Presidential candidates.
How much lower do we need to sink?
How much lower do we need to sink?
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Forget all the noise. Here's why it makes more sense to elect Hillary as president:
If Mr. Trump were in the Residence at night mulling over a particularly difficult decision, the person there to discuss it with him would be Melania Trump.
When Hillary is in the same situation, she can talk it over with a former President of the United States.
If Mr. Trump were in the Residence at night mulling over a particularly difficult decision, the person there to discuss it with him would be Melania Trump.
When Hillary is in the same situation, she can talk it over with a former President of the United States.
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That is no reason to vote for any one for President. In fact, it is a reason NOT to vote for Clinton. I would prefer my currently elected president to be in charge - not some one who once was.
The image of Bill Clinton having any responsibility or influence in the WH is one we should all want to avoid.
The image of Bill Clinton having any responsibility or influence in the WH is one we should all want to avoid.
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Keep in mind that most of the opinions presented in this article have not been filtered to exclude unlikely voters, a subtle but crucial point, and many past voters will not bother to vote this year because few people strongly support either candidate. As a result most are happy to discuss politics as long as you also do not strongly favor either candidate. Saying, 'What defines this election is who you are against, not who the are for', or 'We have two real stinkers this year, don't we?" will usually get the conversation started. What I've learned from these conversations is that this election is more about disliking Hillary Clinton than fearing Donald Trump. Few seem excited about a Clinton presidency. More are excited about a Trump presidency but they aren't that easy to find, maybe because of the North-Korea-style support of Clinton in the press and the constant villainization of Trump. Anti-Clinton sentiment is stronger than anti-Trump sentiment. Of course many politicos do care deeply about the makeup of the Supreme Court and that will motivate some to vote this year, but only the true political ideologues, not average voters. So Hillary Clintons best hope for winning is to create sufficient fear of a Trump presidency and Trump has not been cooperating, hence her lead in the polls has evaporated, and the enthusiasm gap will be the final nail in the coffin of her election bid.
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Can't say I'm surprised. It's been a long time since I heard about Clinton's policy proposals. Probably because her campaign is doing nothing to promote them. "I'm not Trump," is not a policy.
Clinton speaks empty platitudes while the media eats up every Trump 'outrage.'
The outside parties have never looked as appealing. Which has been apparently helping Clinton a lot less than Trump.
Clinton speaks empty platitudes while the media eats up every Trump 'outrage.'
The outside parties have never looked as appealing. Which has been apparently helping Clinton a lot less than Trump.
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I believe the New York Times needs to launch a rubric called "What Voters Need to Know." It should be a front-page feature in the physical paper, but also front and center online, where it could be updated as needed over the course of each day until November 8. It would be a joint effort between news outlets, in the sense that links would be provided and/or credit given to those news sources that had done the investigative reporting and had uncovered and provided the facts.
This would not replace in-depth reporting (the type that is done in the first place to uncover the facts and truth, and set the record straight). It would be a place to succinctly present factual information about the candidates and their positions and proposals (and how they plan on paying for and implementing them) that voters vitally need. Not coincidentally, it would provide a place to enumerate the multiple daily falsehoods, insults, and pie-in-the-sky ideas that Donald Trump regularly flings about.
The New York Times has been rightfully criticized for its shoddy reporting this election season. This useful feature shouldn't be a difficult thing to pull off... and might go a long way to redeeming the sullied reputation of this venerable paper, not to mention make voters better informed. There is, to put it very mildly, a lot at stake in this election.
This would not replace in-depth reporting (the type that is done in the first place to uncover the facts and truth, and set the record straight). It would be a place to succinctly present factual information about the candidates and their positions and proposals (and how they plan on paying for and implementing them) that voters vitally need. Not coincidentally, it would provide a place to enumerate the multiple daily falsehoods, insults, and pie-in-the-sky ideas that Donald Trump regularly flings about.
The New York Times has been rightfully criticized for its shoddy reporting this election season. This useful feature shouldn't be a difficult thing to pull off... and might go a long way to redeeming the sullied reputation of this venerable paper, not to mention make voters better informed. There is, to put it very mildly, a lot at stake in this election.
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All this,
And I still don't hear Hillary coming out loudly and solidly against TPP.
I don't hear Hillary telling us she'll stem the vast H1-B sellout of our jobs.
I don't hear Hillary telling us she'll stop companies like Ford and Carrier (traitors to our country) from going overseas.
I want people to have more reason to vote for her, because Donald will be a disaster.
Deaf has a new name, Hillary. It's HRC!
And I still don't hear Hillary coming out loudly and solidly against TPP.
I don't hear Hillary telling us she'll stem the vast H1-B sellout of our jobs.
I don't hear Hillary telling us she'll stop companies like Ford and Carrier (traitors to our country) from going overseas.
I want people to have more reason to vote for her, because Donald will be a disaster.
Deaf has a new name, Hillary. It's HRC!
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Hilary had said she thought it was "heartbreaking" to have to train your H1b replacement. Yet she still allies with the big users of that visa.
She will do NOTHING for displaced American workers as they do not fund PACs that contribute to her candidacy.
She will do NOTHING for displaced American workers as they do not fund PACs that contribute to her candidacy.
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Clinton needs to stop listening and start talking. If after 40 years of public service she doesn't know what she wants to do as president she's not going to figure it out now.
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Food for thought: If by some unfortunate circumstance, Trump's core uneducated constituency prevails and enough others voters are conned into supporting him, how long do you think his Republican colleagues, [or useless idiots as Trump prefers to characterize them] will allow him to be president? The first whiff of constitutional crisis he causes, that loser, who shares very little in common with them policy-wise will be shown the door with the help of Dems and we will replace a Maniac with the quiet Taliban (and fellow DC traveler) from Indiana.
to them has referred being called a bunch of idiots throughout the campaign will try to remove him
to them has referred being called a bunch of idiots throughout the campaign will try to remove him
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Bold about what? This is a salesman who is good enough to tell the American people that 2+2=5 and have 44% of the American people respond that this represents the bold new kind of thinking that will make America great again. It doesn't say much about the American people or perhaps it speakers in volumes.
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Deplorable, because if Americans have seen the documentary, " Clinton cash, Everything is for sale ", about the Clinton foundation, they would never vote for Hillary Clinton. Based on NY Times documents and published this year it shows who And what Clintons are. Although D.Trump is using different vocabulary without artificial smiles, he says what he thinks . American public should support Mr. Trump and forget Clintons. Watch the Clinton cash, and find out the truth.
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If only venality were all we had to worry about.
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/14/news/economy/donald-trump-economic-plan-...
'President Trump' would cost U.S. economy $1 trillion over the next five years, according to Oxford Economics, a British forecasting firm with offices in the United States....Oxford Economics found that if fully implemented, Trump's economic, tax and immigration policies would cost 4 million U.S. jobs, weigh down global growth and U.S. consumer spending, and could spark a trade war with other nations.
"Oxford's figures are in line with other analysis. The University of Pennsylvania's Wharton Budget Model forecasts Trump's immigration policy costing 4 million jobs and Moody's economist Mark Zandi -- a Clinton supporter -- also forecasts a similar job loss under Trump."
'President Trump' would cost U.S. economy $1 trillion over the next five years, according to Oxford Economics, a British forecasting firm with offices in the United States....Oxford Economics found that if fully implemented, Trump's economic, tax and immigration policies would cost 4 million U.S. jobs, weigh down global growth and U.S. consumer spending, and could spark a trade war with other nations.
"Oxford's figures are in line with other analysis. The University of Pennsylvania's Wharton Budget Model forecasts Trump's immigration policy costing 4 million jobs and Moody's economist Mark Zandi -- a Clinton supporter -- also forecasts a similar job loss under Trump."
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America is undisputed leader of the world now. Therefore, leadership of America is an important position for a safe and peaceful world. Given this, I believe, Hillary Clinton is most suited for the job. She has maintained her grace and proven her leadership. The only flip side of her Secretaryship tenure is her use of personal emails. We do not know yet as to how such an act has compromised national security.
On the other side we have Trump, a bad mouthed person, who is bent on alienating citizens, whipping up the issues of religion and nationality. He has already done enough damage. He has spoken enough of Mexicans and Muslims. He will only disturb the peace of the world. He will drag America into more unnecessary wars. If he constructs wall between America and Mexico or deports refugees, it will only create disturbance internally too.
Therefore, while weighing both candidates, I see Hillary Clinton as safe bet for the world and also for the U.S.
On the other side we have Trump, a bad mouthed person, who is bent on alienating citizens, whipping up the issues of religion and nationality. He has already done enough damage. He has spoken enough of Mexicans and Muslims. He will only disturb the peace of the world. He will drag America into more unnecessary wars. If he constructs wall between America and Mexico or deports refugees, it will only create disturbance internally too.
Therefore, while weighing both candidates, I see Hillary Clinton as safe bet for the world and also for the U.S.
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How the majority of the American public can think that Donald Trump is better for economy and jobs shows that they are absolutely ignorant about how the economy works. Donald Trump's idea is just a rehash of typical Republican economic policies totally reminiscent of Reagan, Bush, etc. Republicans' ideas about improving the economy have been implemented several times in history, and each time, the country was left far off than before.
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These are the worst the parties could come up with. They are blocking people on the ballot in 48 to 50 States and DC from the debates, cheating. Both should be discarded. Dr. Jill Stein is better than Hillary, and Gov. Gary Johnson is better than Donald. The USA needs regime change. I hope we elect a third party President.
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Those familiar with the actual details of Trump's career know that it consists primarily of disasters and botched opportunities. The image of him as a spectacularly successful businessman is a triumph of the black art of public relations. It is terrifying that so many Americans are ready to make this bombastic fraud the steward of our still-fragile economy, not to mention our nation's position among other nations.
This "Anyone But Hillary" nonsense has got to stop. Grow up.
This "Anyone But Hillary" nonsense has got to stop. Grow up.
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I don’t like my neighborhood anymore. Those foreigners are moving in and they talk funny. Something has to change… wait, I know how to fix it! I’ll burn my house down! Sure, the rest of the houses on the block may catch fire too, and burn to the ground and those people who lived there may end up broke and homeless, but it’s their own darn fault that they aren’t real Americans like me. I’m making America great again!
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All of this was known at the start of the primaries, and only got worse. Why weren't Clinton and Party leadership paying attention? What can they do now?
During the primaries, polls showed that 70% of voters wanted "radical change." Clinton's problems--the speeches, the server, the Foundation--unfolded, and she was out-raised by the change candidate. He was winning states and drawing big crowds. While Clinton's favorability declined.
Clinton and Party leadership didn't respond to any of this.
So now the question is, What can they do about it?
Folks, you have 3 ways to turn this wreck around:
1. Stop doing what you have been doing. All the money, all the ads, all of it, isn't working. Change.
2. Listen to the voters. Poll after poll shows that the main issues are jobs and income inequality. You'll fight for the $15 minimum wage. 85% want money out of politics--you'll use the Supreme Court. Most want gun regulation. Most want a healthy Earth. You'll fight for what voters want.
3. Look at what worked for other candidates. Sanders pounded on the issues that voters care about, and offered hope.
4. About the trust and honesty issues. This may be impossible, but do your best. Look at your approach so far, and admit that it isn't working. Figure out another way to answer the problems, because they're not going away.
It's not rocket science, it's politics. That's your job.
A lot of it is in the Party platform. Go out and sell it.
During the primaries, polls showed that 70% of voters wanted "radical change." Clinton's problems--the speeches, the server, the Foundation--unfolded, and she was out-raised by the change candidate. He was winning states and drawing big crowds. While Clinton's favorability declined.
Clinton and Party leadership didn't respond to any of this.
So now the question is, What can they do about it?
Folks, you have 3 ways to turn this wreck around:
1. Stop doing what you have been doing. All the money, all the ads, all of it, isn't working. Change.
2. Listen to the voters. Poll after poll shows that the main issues are jobs and income inequality. You'll fight for the $15 minimum wage. 85% want money out of politics--you'll use the Supreme Court. Most want gun regulation. Most want a healthy Earth. You'll fight for what voters want.
3. Look at what worked for other candidates. Sanders pounded on the issues that voters care about, and offered hope.
4. About the trust and honesty issues. This may be impossible, but do your best. Look at your approach so far, and admit that it isn't working. Figure out another way to answer the problems, because they're not going away.
It's not rocket science, it's politics. That's your job.
A lot of it is in the Party platform. Go out and sell it.
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The times article does not address one core issue with Trump. His clear and repeatedly reveal racism and white supremacy.
This has shown clearly in his attidues about Hispanic, black and Muslim.
Hispanic - rapists and murders
Blacks - such low lives, what can you lose by supporting me
Muslims - hate filled and terrorists
It is really distressing that this clear racism is attractive to certaily well more than 40% of voters and and acceptable to as much as another 10.
It is just not the country I thought or hoped.
This has shown clearly in his attidues about Hispanic, black and Muslim.
Hispanic - rapists and murders
Blacks - such low lives, what can you lose by supporting me
Muslims - hate filled and terrorists
It is really distressing that this clear racism is attractive to certaily well more than 40% of voters and and acceptable to as much as another 10.
It is just not the country I thought or hoped.
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This is a wonderful article that I believe correctly states the choice that American voters have, having to decide, in the article's terms, for the "bold" or the "safe."
With upwards to 75% of voters thinking America is seriously headed in the wrong direction, I think Americans, nearly all of us immigrants or descendants of immigrants who made a bold and often dangerous decision to set off for the New World, will choose "bold" on election day.
With upwards to 75% of voters thinking America is seriously headed in the wrong direction, I think Americans, nearly all of us immigrants or descendants of immigrants who made a bold and often dangerous decision to set off for the New World, will choose "bold" on election day.
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What the state of the race points to is that in the age of internet-powered gaslighting, we need to radically improve education in this country. Right now too many people are ready to buy a bill of goods.
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The greatest threat of a Donald Trump presidency is what he would give conservative Republicans to get what he needs from them. The "tear it down" agenda of the Congressional Tea Party bomb-throwers, the Ayn Rand capitalists and Koch Brothers oligarchs, and the End Times culture warriors has been thwarted by two terms of a Democratic president with a veto pen but all that pent-up revolutionary zeal will explode in piles of bills on his desk for a signature. If he wants billions of dollars to build his wall when Mexico refuses to fund it, what "deal" will he cut with Congress? Privatize Social Security? Eliminate the EPA? A constitutional amendment banning abortion and gay marriage? Near-total deregulation of Wall Street? And what if part of the deal is giving the president more executive power to fight terrorism at home or inner-city crime in Chicago, with the military or national guard, or suspending civil liberties and rights in a "national security emergency"? No, it is not just Donald Trump that poses the threat. It's what he. this Republican Congress and the Supreme Court they install together would do. And we should be very, very afraid.
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Most of the guys I went to high school with...sitting in the back of class, chucking spit balls at us 'geeks and losers' who went to work in the local factories, while we went off to college, moved away...started our own businesses, are the ones horny for Trump.
Although many are fine people., they were intellectually lazy then, prone to simple minded answers and have no idea of how our government is supposed to work, but just know in their hearts that Obama, the democrats, HRC and all the liberals are the root of their problems.
They don't care about Trump's issues and never will. They just 'know' he's going to stick his big middle finger at DC, bring back jobs, deport the illegals and get rid of Obamacare.
Then all will be 'well again'.
Ugh.
Although many are fine people., they were intellectually lazy then, prone to simple minded answers and have no idea of how our government is supposed to work, but just know in their hearts that Obama, the democrats, HRC and all the liberals are the root of their problems.
They don't care about Trump's issues and never will. They just 'know' he's going to stick his big middle finger at DC, bring back jobs, deport the illegals and get rid of Obamacare.
Then all will be 'well again'.
Ugh.
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Polls keep finding the American public wants change. The reality is very different since the vast majority of incumbent of representatives and senators are re-elected. Since these people in Congress are relatively safe they have no impetus to change. Think of what President Obama could have accomplished if he had had a Congress that wanted to move the country forward. But he didn't. And neither a President Hillary Clinton or a President Trump is likely to have a Congress that is totally cooperative. So the change the country wants, and in many cases needs, won't happen. The frustration will continue. It won't be reduced until people realize that while the president is important, Congress is even more so.
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“Forty-eight percent of voters think Mr. Trump could bring real change to Washington, a 12-point edge over Mrs. Clinton.” These voters are smart people as they know how hard to change the establishment machine and appreciate D.J.T.’s surpassing others in courage and insight.
“Only 32% of Americans say they have ‘a great deal’ or ‘a fair amount’ of trust in mass media, according to a poll released this week by Gallup. That's a new low. It has never been clearer that people need genuinely independent journalism.” See http://www.truth-out.org/
The problem with the mainstream media is that it is part and parcel of the establishment but it wants to do astroturfing at all costs. For an example, D.J.T. has been bashed and kicked as a crackpot because he is an anti-establishmentalist, regardless that he has at the very minimum forty million followers. The establishment is the governing class (also called the political class) supported by capital – or the capital personified ruling class over the working class or the 99 percent of the population. The establishment consists of “top corporate executives, major political figures in public and operatives behind the scenes, media owners/managers, and the most listened-to policy intellectuals who serve them.” See “The Disintegration of Bourgeois Democracy” by Charles Andrews Aug. 22, 2016 http://mltoday.com/article/2522-the-disintegration-of-bourgeois-democrac...
“Only 32% of Americans say they have ‘a great deal’ or ‘a fair amount’ of trust in mass media, according to a poll released this week by Gallup. That's a new low. It has never been clearer that people need genuinely independent journalism.” See http://www.truth-out.org/
The problem with the mainstream media is that it is part and parcel of the establishment but it wants to do astroturfing at all costs. For an example, D.J.T. has been bashed and kicked as a crackpot because he is an anti-establishmentalist, regardless that he has at the very minimum forty million followers. The establishment is the governing class (also called the political class) supported by capital – or the capital personified ruling class over the working class or the 99 percent of the population. The establishment consists of “top corporate executives, major political figures in public and operatives behind the scenes, media owners/managers, and the most listened-to policy intellectuals who serve them.” See “The Disintegration of Bourgeois Democracy” by Charles Andrews Aug. 22, 2016 http://mltoday.com/article/2522-the-disintegration-of-bourgeois-democrac...
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People want change. That's clear. But to support a man who's qualifications include being a racketeer, has a trail of chapter 13s in his wake, stiffed his labor workers with a deluge of lawsuits, can no longer receive business loans from American banks, so he has financial and business ties to communist countries, is not the answer. Personally, he's on this 3rd marriage, boasts of his infidelity, has shown an adolescent, revengeful, attitude to anyone who opposes him, oh, and blatantly lies. He's been clear on who and what he is. Voters wanting to believe in this false idol is the real stain on our country.
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Even Trump's Foundation is broke and he is going to grow this country? Trump has not made a donation to his own family foundation since 2008? What would give anyone the impression that he would care about The People?
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The Emerson College poll released Thursday for Arkansas, where Mrs. Clinton was first lady for about a dozen years, offers one of the more interesting glimpses at the dramatically changing mood of the electorate in those parts:
Bill Clinton got 53.21% of presidential vote there in 1992, and 53.7% in 1996. But here we are 20 years later, and the latest snapshot looks like this:
Donald Trump 57%
Hillary Clinton 29%
There seems to be something less than a Clinton afterglow in the Razorback State. Ouch. ...
Bill Clinton got 53.21% of presidential vote there in 1992, and 53.7% in 1996. But here we are 20 years later, and the latest snapshot looks like this:
Donald Trump 57%
Hillary Clinton 29%
There seems to be something less than a Clinton afterglow in the Razorback State. Ouch. ...
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Reality check beleive it or not we only have one party system now. Voting for lesser of evils has driven away 77 percent of voters in usa .The ones who cant vote criminals illegal aleins an children . Our for fathers an mothers would cry to see how how little people care to vote. I suggest obama do something to change this but i doubt he will. He could make manditory to vote. He would leave legacy no other president has done swear to allegance to american way of life .
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Good point - but that may need to be an amendment to the Constitution. And if we have to go that way, we need to get the situation of Citizens United prevented using an amendment, as well.
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Wait a Minute - check out voting rights changes by governor in Virginia. Criminals are being allowed the vote.
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If you want real change, vote straight Democratic next November. Voting for Trump is voting for disaster. Change can be for the worse.
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We're supposed to expect change from a candidate proudly bragging about continuing the status quo? Please lay out the reasoning for that one.
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Over 40% of Americans, who support Demagogue-Don, should be ashamed of themselves. A completely irresponsible choice. Sadly, the corporate media's obsession with Trump has only fed his popularity. Never~ever overestimate the intelligence and common sense of the American electorate.
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Donald's plan to shake up Washington is, first cab off the rank, to cut taxes for people like himself. Just how much he will trouser we may never know, as his tax returns are rigorously unavailable for comment.
This is how real estate salesmen buy you at one end of the street and sell you at the other. Read "The Art of the Deal".
t
This is how real estate salesmen buy you at one end of the street and sell you at the other. Read "The Art of the Deal".
t
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A reader has said: "It is without question the candidates of the two major parties are flawed." Wrong! It is without question one of the candidates of a major party is flawed. The other candidate is simply doing her best to make sure the badly flawed candidate doesn't win the election. Good luck, H.
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Hillary voted for the Iraq War, accepted large amounts of SuperPac money, gave Wall Street speeches that were vastly overpaid, thinks the ideals of Denmark is a piped dream, hired Debbie Wasserman Schultz after it was proven she created a hostile environment for Sanders in the DNC, can't come up with a clear answer regarding Drug Legalization, worked against the Iranian Nuclear Deal (see Nytimes article), supports AIPAC, supports tactic racism in the form of BLM, literally pulls out "the woman card" when she claims to want equality, distracted shopped for a Senate position, engages in the same baiting Trump does ("basket of deplorables"). Beyond that, she hasn't even came to my state to campaign in contrast to Trump, Sanders and obviously Johnson who show some interest in the fifth largest state in the nation. Both Ms. Clinton and Mr. Trump are very flawed candidates.
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Nothing you say makes her flawed. The word "flawed" relates to character and integrity. Trump has serious character deficiencies and virtually no integrity. H will be in your state for sure. There is much time left. Obviously, right now the thrust is on the large states where the race is close.
It's a shame that there are some Americans who are prepared to waste their vote on the third and fourth party candidates.
It's better to vote for either Trump or Clinton and there is a clear cut winner, so the race doesn't wind up in the Supreme Court.
Personally the thought of another four more years of Obama's policies is more than anyone can bear.
Like it or not Trump is the best choice. He is an outsider and whatever he doesn't know he can learn. Clinton is a lying, conniving sanctimonious hypocrite.
Not only that, but after living through eight years of Barack Obama, we can't afford eight more years of Obama's agenda designed to destroy the United States of America.
It's better to vote for either Trump or Clinton and there is a clear cut winner, so the race doesn't wind up in the Supreme Court.
Personally the thought of another four more years of Obama's policies is more than anyone can bear.
Like it or not Trump is the best choice. He is an outsider and whatever he doesn't know he can learn. Clinton is a lying, conniving sanctimonious hypocrite.
Not only that, but after living through eight years of Barack Obama, we can't afford eight more years of Obama's agenda designed to destroy the United States of America.
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It is tragic that the Lame Stream Media refuses to show the size of the crowds which Trump attracts. Unbelievable at how biased the Media really is.
Since when are they trying to sway the election?
The bottom line: The media is going to regret burying their heads in the sand. Because of their inability to face reality, they will not be able to do an accurate opinion poll.
Further, the very fact that Clinton does not have a 10 to 20 point lead at this point is telling indeed. If she was such a great candidate and Trump was so terrible she should be way ahead of him in the polls.
Since when are they trying to sway the election?
The bottom line: The media is going to regret burying their heads in the sand. Because of their inability to face reality, they will not be able to do an accurate opinion poll.
Further, the very fact that Clinton does not have a 10 to 20 point lead at this point is telling indeed. If she was such a great candidate and Trump was so terrible she should be way ahead of him in the polls.
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Transformative? Change isn't always good, especially change promised by a mercurial, unpredictable guy with a questionable track record in the conduct of his business. Transformation can lead to bad things. That's what people need to understand.
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Thank God for polls. They keep reporters (sorry, journalists) employed. Every two point change from 3 days ago, which was a two point change from 3 days before that allows our media poobahs to educate us with the same palaver they blathered on about last week and the week before that.
They illustrate their conceit by interviewing each other because (a) they want to share their brilliance with us, and (b) they have nothing to report so they concoct their own stories with self-indulgent gibberish.
Thank goodness for Wolf and his minions in The Situation Room (just like the real one in the White House) for digging up people that we have never heard of (for good reason), and relentlessly, hour after hour, day after day look sternly into the camera and announce "Breaking News" that is so important that it will shared with us after four Geico commercials, two ads asking us if we have mesothelioma, and one inquiring about our bowel movements.
From there we can turn to the NYT columnists who provide some relief because they are writing what they always write. It must be Saturday because Maureen Dowd's photo is in the upper right corner. We are dazzled by her witticism and comforted that she hasn't aged in over 20 years.
My grandmother had it right. "If you don't have anything to say, then don't say anything."
"We'll be right back with the administrative assistant who works for some guy who works at the NSC after these brief messages." And, sadly, they do.
They illustrate their conceit by interviewing each other because (a) they want to share their brilliance with us, and (b) they have nothing to report so they concoct their own stories with self-indulgent gibberish.
Thank goodness for Wolf and his minions in The Situation Room (just like the real one in the White House) for digging up people that we have never heard of (for good reason), and relentlessly, hour after hour, day after day look sternly into the camera and announce "Breaking News" that is so important that it will shared with us after four Geico commercials, two ads asking us if we have mesothelioma, and one inquiring about our bowel movements.
From there we can turn to the NYT columnists who provide some relief because they are writing what they always write. It must be Saturday because Maureen Dowd's photo is in the upper right corner. We are dazzled by her witticism and comforted that she hasn't aged in over 20 years.
My grandmother had it right. "If you don't have anything to say, then don't say anything."
"We'll be right back with the administrative assistant who works for some guy who works at the NSC after these brief messages." And, sadly, they do.
Hillary,
Please run on something besides, "I'm not Trump." We know that already.
Please run on something besides, "I'm not Trump." We know that already.
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Based on the new NYtimes article with HRC trying to persuade third party voters, this is her main argument she uses to persuade third party voters to vote for her. Frankly, it is unpersuasive if you care about change and the issues.
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70 plus pounds over weight at age 70 and six feet two. How could he fake good health? His BMI indicates obesity. Dr. Oz is no wizzard but typical of behind the curtain politics.
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President Donald Trump would signal the end of the US as far as I'm concerned. I don't know what I'd do. I might not want to live any more.
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I am begging all readers to prevent Trump and his white nationalist/supremacist agenda to be in our WhiteHouse. I can't imagine the damage to our culture and people of color. But more importantly, don't give him the nukes. He's unstable
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The Birther is not bold.
He is stupid.
Somebody has to say it.
I will repeat it.
The Birther is stupid.
He is stupid.
Somebody has to say it.
I will repeat it.
The Birther is stupid.
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This country was bought and sold a long time ago, the "leaders" don't represent the people. Why, in the age of the internet do we need representatives and presidents?
Why are we still electing people to rule over us?
Why are we still electing people to rule over us?
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If reporters actually started doing their jobs instead of (like Trump) salivating over poll numbers, then maybe democracy would work. Right now we have a presidential candidate who is about to go on trial for the rape of a 13-year-old girl; who has declared his intention to commit war crimes; who has asked an enemy power to hack Democrats' emails (thanks Russia!); and who has proven business ties to international criminals. U.S. cybersecurity officials yesterday confirmed that the Russians, aided by Wikileaks, are attempting to influence the election in Trump's favor. And what are the headlines? "Hillary hasn't been transparent about her pneumonia." Meanwhile Trump's hidden taxes remain a dropped ball; I guess they're not as sexy as a respiratory infection.
We need the press because facts matter (despite what Chris Wallace seems to think), and the admirable work of David Fahrenthold and Kurt Eichenwold should put other reporters to shame. Unlike Lauer and Wallace, these two journalists are digging in to Trump's ties to foreign criminals and fake charity. They should not be the only ones. This candidate is the scariest threat to world peace since the splitting of the atom.
We need the press because facts matter (despite what Chris Wallace seems to think), and the admirable work of David Fahrenthold and Kurt Eichenwold should put other reporters to shame. Unlike Lauer and Wallace, these two journalists are digging in to Trump's ties to foreign criminals and fake charity. They should not be the only ones. This candidate is the scariest threat to world peace since the splitting of the atom.
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I'm a nuclear physicist and female I'll take Trump!
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Somehow I doubt your Bona Fides
Our choice for president in 2016 out of 320 plus million people are these two sorry candidates? Something is terribly wrong here...
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"Risky and bold?" "Risky and reckless," is more like it, objectively speaking.
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The Democratic Party, President Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Donna Brazile, and the various surrogates featured on CNN nightly (Bakari Sellers, Angela Ryne, Vann Jones) has misplaced the importance of the "racist label," birther issue, and all that other race psychobabble this election. It's the economy stupid . . .
Why don't they just "miss us" with that arrogant and elitist betrayal. Donald Trump is connecting with the part of the black community hurting the most. Trump is now getting 25.75 percent of the black vote in South Carolina according to the Sept. 6-10 Trafalgar poll. In Michigan the Fox 2-Mitchell poll has Trump now taking 20 percent of the black vote. And, the CNN poll has non-white voters are now supporting Trump 10% in Ohio and 26% in Florida.
Donald Trump's promised for radical change; a different way of thinking; and, a new approach to solving the black community's problems is clear direct and specific and have worked to engaged more and more blacks ready and eager to take the gamble to shake things up.
The Democrats' brainless and current absurd efforts to prove Trump as racist is just "more of the same" and the reason black youth continue to live in their precarious situation (epidemic of black homicides, failing schools, severe unemployment, poverty and substandard housing).
Everything that is Democratic this election is as "phonylicious" as Bakari Sellers trying to name rap artist for Don Lemon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dieNd5h_qpw
Why don't they just "miss us" with that arrogant and elitist betrayal. Donald Trump is connecting with the part of the black community hurting the most. Trump is now getting 25.75 percent of the black vote in South Carolina according to the Sept. 6-10 Trafalgar poll. In Michigan the Fox 2-Mitchell poll has Trump now taking 20 percent of the black vote. And, the CNN poll has non-white voters are now supporting Trump 10% in Ohio and 26% in Florida.
Donald Trump's promised for radical change; a different way of thinking; and, a new approach to solving the black community's problems is clear direct and specific and have worked to engaged more and more blacks ready and eager to take the gamble to shake things up.
The Democrats' brainless and current absurd efforts to prove Trump as racist is just "more of the same" and the reason black youth continue to live in their precarious situation (epidemic of black homicides, failing schools, severe unemployment, poverty and substandard housing).
Everything that is Democratic this election is as "phonylicious" as Bakari Sellers trying to name rap artist for Don Lemon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dieNd5h_qpw
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Who do you think would do a better job at the economy and jobs?
Clinton 43%
Trump 51%
If memory serves correctly, the three-point manta from the Clinton war room from 1992 was:
-- Change versus more of the same
-- It's the economy, stupid
-- Don't forget about health care
If the same template were to be applied this time, it would seem that Mrs. Clinton is no better than 1-for-3. In which case inevitability might not turn out as all it's cracked up to be.
Clinton 43%
Trump 51%
If memory serves correctly, the three-point manta from the Clinton war room from 1992 was:
-- Change versus more of the same
-- It's the economy, stupid
-- Don't forget about health care
If the same template were to be applied this time, it would seem that Mrs. Clinton is no better than 1-for-3. In which case inevitability might not turn out as all it's cracked up to be.
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manta = mantra
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I saw this coming when Bernie was cheated out of a fair chance at the nomination, although for awhile I kidded myself that Clinton would win in a landslide because Trump was so disgraceful. There is no doubt in my mind that from the get go, everything was done by powers that be to keep Bernie from succeeding. To be honest, I think he would have been a lot better match against Trump than Clinton. The way he energizes people is amazing. I'm sure many NYT readers disagree. So very sorry we didn't get to see that match up. It would have been an election for the history books as Bernie would have kept the debate on topic instead of descending into such a ghastly personal vilifying one of the other.
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The powers that be saw Bernie as the real threat. The nonstop Trump coverage was a way to avoid covering Bernie. They figured Trump was a joke, but the laugh's going to be on them.
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Donald Trump, agent of change? Come on. How can anyone who has listened to this guy since June '15 believe that he can regarded as an agent of change? It is ridiculous to regard Trump as anything other than an egomaniac who will put the country and the world at risk. He has an embarrassing dearth of basic knowledge and he can utter no more than 4 sentences on any important issue facing the country or the world. Frequently, I will turn to my wife while listening to Hillary Clinton on tele and say "picture Trump trying to talk about this issue." It is outrageous that Trump has a lead in about any segment of voters. Those who favor him haven't done any reading on him. The several books I have read on Trump show him to be someone who is utterly unfit to be POTUS.
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I am deeply saddened that Donald Trump has the support of so many of my fellow citizens. What is it that makes so many support a bigoted bully and what does that say about their values, ethics and morals? With all the outrageous things that Trump has said and will continue to say, believe him because he says so himself, "believe me".
For those of you out there that stand behind Trump and intend to vote for him, please think seriously about the message you would be sending to all the children of our country if he were to get elected. You would be saying that it is acceptable to bully, denigrate, lie, say despicable things about people, be a racist etc. and still get elected to President of the United States......is that really the message that you want to send?
For those of you out there that stand behind Trump and intend to vote for him, please think seriously about the message you would be sending to all the children of our country if he were to get elected. You would be saying that it is acceptable to bully, denigrate, lie, say despicable things about people, be a racist etc. and still get elected to President of the United States......is that really the message that you want to send?
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Since image is all that has ever counted with il duce, it's a tribute to
how he and his corporate media journalist boot lickers have played the image game so cleverly that this image
of him is firmly implanted in way too many brains..this "strong image" he's been allowed to create and hide behind
is presumably why the Putin nonsense has played such a large role
in his rhetoric..."strength by association" so to speak...Putin is strong
so I am too is the underlying message there...I am strong by
resisting all inquiries by the low life press sheep I'm obliged to
interact with...this image or resistance to their pathetic entreaties to do this or that commonly accepted practice of candidates gives the illusion of strength too, so it all works perfectly to seduce those voters who are looking
for this type of no nonsense type of dude, aka duce.
It is also a pathetic example of how completely inept his opponent
and her side has been in thinking that they could get by
without firmly dealing with this basic need that they must
have detected in their surveys and private polls. Indeed by
forcing her to keep on replying to these diversions it makes
her appear quite the opposite of strong since she's the one
being forced to reply to various nonsensical queries over and
over again..something no strong leader would ever put themselves
in the position of having to do.
So this society, youth included, is going to get what half yearns for...good luck
with that everyone.
how he and his corporate media journalist boot lickers have played the image game so cleverly that this image
of him is firmly implanted in way too many brains..this "strong image" he's been allowed to create and hide behind
is presumably why the Putin nonsense has played such a large role
in his rhetoric..."strength by association" so to speak...Putin is strong
so I am too is the underlying message there...I am strong by
resisting all inquiries by the low life press sheep I'm obliged to
interact with...this image or resistance to their pathetic entreaties to do this or that commonly accepted practice of candidates gives the illusion of strength too, so it all works perfectly to seduce those voters who are looking
for this type of no nonsense type of dude, aka duce.
It is also a pathetic example of how completely inept his opponent
and her side has been in thinking that they could get by
without firmly dealing with this basic need that they must
have detected in their surveys and private polls. Indeed by
forcing her to keep on replying to these diversions it makes
her appear quite the opposite of strong since she's the one
being forced to reply to various nonsensical queries over and
over again..something no strong leader would ever put themselves
in the position of having to do.
So this society, youth included, is going to get what half yearns for...good luck
with that everyone.
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The Bush-Gore election of 2000 has been on my mind lately. People were turned off by both candidates, didn't vote, or voted with perhaps less thought than they should have. When the Supreme Court decision came down, and George W. Bush won the election, a group of us were watching the news on TV. The person next to me turned and said, "Well, how much damage can he do?" We found out.
I don't like Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I have tried to like her more, and I still don't. But I love my country, 100%, and I trust Clinton for other reasons: her competence and her intentions to do well by this country. She will make a far better president than Donald Trump without any doubt. At the end of the day, that's what counts.
Clinton's intelligence, abilities, and experience are fine qualities for a president. She has thought long and hard about what she wants to accomplish as president, and she is methodical, even relentless, in reaching her goals. In this respect, she has a strong character indeed. I also believe she has been slimed unfairly by the Republicans, and unfortunately some of the goo has stuck. Like many others, I wish there was a better candidate for president--for both parties. But after the 2000 election, I am realistic about making a choice from what's on the table.
I don't like Hillary Clinton as a candidate. I have tried to like her more, and I still don't. But I love my country, 100%, and I trust Clinton for other reasons: her competence and her intentions to do well by this country. She will make a far better president than Donald Trump without any doubt. At the end of the day, that's what counts.
Clinton's intelligence, abilities, and experience are fine qualities for a president. She has thought long and hard about what she wants to accomplish as president, and she is methodical, even relentless, in reaching her goals. In this respect, she has a strong character indeed. I also believe she has been slimed unfairly by the Republicans, and unfortunately some of the goo has stuck. Like many others, I wish there was a better candidate for president--for both parties. But after the 2000 election, I am realistic about making a choice from what's on the table.
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THE most media-manipulated election since the "cross of gold" era? I can say that here because the Times has been =unusually= scrupulous... but only compared to most of the rest. 50% of Americans get the majority of their "news" from cable television. Try watching the three majors. Then tell me that emotion-baiting "yellow journalism" died a century ago. Think polarization sells ad space and broadcast time =big= time? Hmm. (Let's hope the country survives.) (Let's hope =we= survive.)
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Over fifty percent of the people I know, have cut the cord, and use Netflix and Amazon
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The sad part for Democrats is that all of this was known at the start of the primaries. The voters' need for change. Clinton's own problems--the speeches, the server, the Foundation. How did the Party plan to win?
As the primaries went along, the trends only became stronger. Poll after poll showed that 70% of voters wanted "radical change." On the Republican side, the establishment characters--Bush, Rubio--fell flat. On the Democratic side, even despite Clinton's big name, big money, and big media, Clinton (the fundraising queen) was being out-raised by the change candidate. He was winning states and drawing big crowds. While Clinton's favorability steadily declined. The more that came out about her issues (the speeches, the server, etc) and the more she responded, the farther her favorability dropped. Exit polls showed that the majority of her voters weren't enthusiastic, but driven by fear of Trump.
So no one should be surprised at what is happening now. It's a straightforward continuation of what we've seen from the start of the campaign. Democrats can ask why the Party leadership, despite the obvious mood for change and despite Clinton's obvious problems, pushed the Party in this direction.
Democrats can ask the Party leadership and the candidate they pushed, What's your answer to the problems that have been here all along?
As the primaries went along, the trends only became stronger. Poll after poll showed that 70% of voters wanted "radical change." On the Republican side, the establishment characters--Bush, Rubio--fell flat. On the Democratic side, even despite Clinton's big name, big money, and big media, Clinton (the fundraising queen) was being out-raised by the change candidate. He was winning states and drawing big crowds. While Clinton's favorability steadily declined. The more that came out about her issues (the speeches, the server, etc) and the more she responded, the farther her favorability dropped. Exit polls showed that the majority of her voters weren't enthusiastic, but driven by fear of Trump.
So no one should be surprised at what is happening now. It's a straightforward continuation of what we've seen from the start of the campaign. Democrats can ask why the Party leadership, despite the obvious mood for change and despite Clinton's obvious problems, pushed the Party in this direction.
Democrats can ask the Party leadership and the candidate they pushed, What's your answer to the problems that have been here all along?
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But here lay the problem, there were no scandals only media creations. Yet, when there were real conflicts of interest and "real scandals" on the part of Trump, they were absent in the news as if they really didn't matter. When you finally realize that salient truth, it may be too late for you and our country.
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Any politician can proclaim anything. It's not risky if you have zero experience, ideas or actual plans to make them reality. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. I hope like the dickens that his supporters wake up and smell the gasoline he is pouring all over everything that is great about this country.
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Trump is seen "as more transformative" and "could bring real change to Washington." Indeed, much happened in recent decades can't be ignored, and change is necessary and inevitable. But it has to take place gradually and incrementally, given America's role in the volatile world we live in.
The other question is whether Trump will be able to bring positive energy into his policies that could change the status quo. How much can we trust him to deliver on what he has pledged. He has been backtracking so many time.
No doubt Hillary Clinton is prepared to change, because she is aware of her low approval ratings among many Americans, who reject the "business as usual" mode. It will be a challenge for her, but I don't doubt her competence.
The other question is whether Trump will be able to bring positive energy into his policies that could change the status quo. How much can we trust him to deliver on what he has pledged. He has been backtracking so many time.
No doubt Hillary Clinton is prepared to change, because she is aware of her low approval ratings among many Americans, who reject the "business as usual" mode. It will be a challenge for her, but I don't doubt her competence.
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"No doubt Hillary Clinton is prepared to change, because she is aware of her low approval ratings among many Americans, who reject the "business as usual" mode. It will be a challenge for her, but I don't doubt her competence"
You don't get it. If she changes just to please the poll answers that is what we are against. No more phony politicians promising but unable to deliver. No changes Hillary makes will change the minds of the people if all they perceive is more pandering.
You don't get it. If she changes just to please the poll answers that is what we are against. No more phony politicians promising but unable to deliver. No changes Hillary makes will change the minds of the people if all they perceive is more pandering.
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Risky but bold! Wow. Has the American public ever been sold a better bill of goods by the Trump Establishment.
I'm astounded that people think Trump will be better for the economy. Nothing in his background or record attest to that. About the only thing Trump has been hugely successful atis making himself and his family extremely rich by skirting every tax law and using others to advance his own ball.
If anything expresses Trumpyian economics it would be the philosophy of hide how you do it but stiff the little guy.
Risky but Bold. I am still shaking my head. Is it risky but Bold to put all your money and toxic mortgages in the hopes you'll make a killing in real estate? That's what many dead in 2007 and 2008. And what did that get them?
People hate Clinton because they perceive her as deceitful and selfish. But oh God look at her record-- A lifetime of service helping children and the poor and minorities. This gets totally buried by the fact that she is actually pretty conservative in her economics.
Risky but bold. Oh boy. If Bold turns out to be reckless and dangerous, isn't that The big downside of risk?
Be careful what you pray for – you just might get it.
I'm astounded that people think Trump will be better for the economy. Nothing in his background or record attest to that. About the only thing Trump has been hugely successful atis making himself and his family extremely rich by skirting every tax law and using others to advance his own ball.
If anything expresses Trumpyian economics it would be the philosophy of hide how you do it but stiff the little guy.
Risky but Bold. I am still shaking my head. Is it risky but Bold to put all your money and toxic mortgages in the hopes you'll make a killing in real estate? That's what many dead in 2007 and 2008. And what did that get them?
People hate Clinton because they perceive her as deceitful and selfish. But oh God look at her record-- A lifetime of service helping children and the poor and minorities. This gets totally buried by the fact that she is actually pretty conservative in her economics.
Risky but bold. Oh boy. If Bold turns out to be reckless and dangerous, isn't that The big downside of risk?
Be careful what you pray for – you just might get it.
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I'm going back to bed and when I wake up, I hope the times has too. Risky bold change? We heard this before. Remember the last Bush? Smh
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I'm sorry, Christine, what did you say? I was distracted by the many Trump buildings along the West Side Highway and the distant vista of Trump Tower.
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Please list anything Clinton ever did during her "lifetime of [well-paid] public service" that helped children and poor an minorities other than make speeches. And I'm pretty sure the women of Honduras might take issue with your statement. And you can forget SCHIP, since that was another item that just received lip service when she was First Lady--it was Ted Kennedy who actually got it passed.
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Sec Clinton needs to start doing the unexpected: have daily press conferences, do tons of interviews on Fox News & conservative talk radio, directly speak to disaffected voters and do rallies in red states. She needs to talk to people as herself and not a guarded politician. Sec Clinton knows policy inside and out. Now people need to know that she's approachable.
August was for fundraising. Now its time to go directly to real people, even to those who don't support her.
August was for fundraising. Now its time to go directly to real people, even to those who don't support her.
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"directly speak to disaffected voters and do rallies in red states. She needs to talk to people as herself and not a guarded politician. Sec Clinton knows policy inside and out. Now people need to know that she's approachable."
Approachability is about listening, not speaking. Not Mrs. Clinton's strong suit!
Approachability is about listening, not speaking. Not Mrs. Clinton's strong suit!
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The establishment certainly needs to be changed, and much of it needs to be overthrown. But the establishment also is an essential part of the very complex system that keeps things running, and if it crashes or stumbles the whole system starts failing. We have to keep the thing running while we figure out how to fix or rebuilt it, prepare the fix or new part, and switch over.
Hillary's problem will be making and implementing major fixes while the system lurches on. Trump's problem will be keeping the system lurching on in the face of problems that arise and his own repair attempts.
If we could put the economy on automatic pilot, we could perhaps let Trump tinker with it. But the automatic pilot (the routine resolution of routine issues like funding government programs and appointing executive and judicial personnel) is itself broken, unreliable and liable to jam. Obama was not able to get it working; maybe Hillary can.
Hillary's problem will be making and implementing major fixes while the system lurches on. Trump's problem will be keeping the system lurching on in the face of problems that arise and his own repair attempts.
If we could put the economy on automatic pilot, we could perhaps let Trump tinker with it. But the automatic pilot (the routine resolution of routine issues like funding government programs and appointing executive and judicial personnel) is itself broken, unreliable and liable to jam. Obama was not able to get it working; maybe Hillary can.
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That very complex system that keeps things running is wasting far too much of what money and power it takes from the citizen and requires major surgery.
Washington. D.C. was sett up to serve US, not the other way around.
Obama spent thirty trillion dollars and had to borrow ten trillion of it. If he solved nothing, then nothing is EVER going to be solved by the inmates running our nation's capital.
Perhaps we should move the House, Senate, and White House to Ohio or Kansas.
Washington. D.C. was sett up to serve US, not the other way around.
Obama spent thirty trillion dollars and had to borrow ten trillion of it. If he solved nothing, then nothing is EVER going to be solved by the inmates running our nation's capital.
Perhaps we should move the House, Senate, and White House to Ohio or Kansas.
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Likeability, popularity, trustworthiness, change, etc., are somewhat moot issues, because the candidates are pretty evenly matched on these "soft" issues. The "hard" issues are jobs, inequality, health care, education, infrastructure, economy, and foreign relations. HRC wins hands down in these categories.
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Is this country in such decline that it would elect an egomaniac crooked real estate developer to run the country. Have we turned into late stage Rome? Possible but not probable. The true deplorable voters won't come to their senses. But enough will as the time for deciding not just complaining gets closer. Ignore the daily polls completely. The weighted trend of all the polls is a safer predictIve factor.
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We have to decide to either dismantle what we have and put our stock into what we think we will get, but won't. Or, stick with what we have and hope that some of it can be fixed. My investment goes to the untested plumber who has worked for plumbers, over the plumber who never held a wrench, but says no problem, he can fix anything.
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Amen
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I bet Donald J. Trump got a stooge to take blood from a 30 year old and use them for the Dr. Oz show. Even Dr. Oz thought the results were surprising. He even had a good testosterone result. On a 70 year old man? What if Donald J. Trump also was pregnant?
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There are plenty of testosterone supplements out there.
Oddly, he didn't take a drug test.
Oddly, he didn't take a drug test.
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I have no doubt it was Donald Trumps test results; the question I have is which Donald Trump - junior or senior.
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TIm Tebow ?
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Earlier was thinking of three American men, hard-working, disciplined and industrious. They are voting for Trump. They do not know each other. What do they have in common? They see themselves as the pioneers and builders of America. The wagon is gone, replaced by a contemporary one, a truck or a trailer. They are soft when it comes to tales of the Old West, yet shoot pretty horses. They are angry, of course.
'She is a liar' from one, sitting on a chair waiting to be paid for well-earned construction work. It is possible that Hillary Clinton is the symbol of 'Corrupt' Wall Street, and of large corporations, financial institutions, all the cause they feel of the Country's downfall.
Curious, I asked the visitor if Hillary is a crook, she might be the right one to deal with these thieves to clean up their act, but 'The 'Male Ego' plays a factor here and they are blind-sided. On their high-horse, they can only go as far as Trump. No point in letting on that he has a reputation for being a mediocre business man at best.
They feel more at home eating the heel of the bread than reaching for the upper-crust. They depend on their wives for good home cooking when their women return from work in The Land of the Brave and Free.
Trump shows no sign of being brave but bold. Bold as brass, rude and crass, he would probably be walloped if he were their child. Singular, because underneath it all, I wonder if they really respect this man.
'She is a liar' from one, sitting on a chair waiting to be paid for well-earned construction work. It is possible that Hillary Clinton is the symbol of 'Corrupt' Wall Street, and of large corporations, financial institutions, all the cause they feel of the Country's downfall.
Curious, I asked the visitor if Hillary is a crook, she might be the right one to deal with these thieves to clean up their act, but 'The 'Male Ego' plays a factor here and they are blind-sided. On their high-horse, they can only go as far as Trump. No point in letting on that he has a reputation for being a mediocre business man at best.
They feel more at home eating the heel of the bread than reaching for the upper-crust. They depend on their wives for good home cooking when their women return from work in The Land of the Brave and Free.
Trump shows no sign of being brave but bold. Bold as brass, rude and crass, he would probably be walloped if he were their child. Singular, because underneath it all, I wonder if they really respect this man.
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Excellent thoughts. Sadly the deplorable a can hear or see.
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They're "sexists" because they don't believe Hillary, the crook, isn't the right person to go after the crooks? Or because they have traditional home lives?
Interesting word, "brave". It's been used to describe Hillary's standing up to republicans after she's been caught lying. Trump eliminated all his competitors without a lick of political experience. "Brass, rude and crass." Call it whatever you want. Americans want him to put it to work for them.
Interesting word, "brave". It's been used to describe Hillary's standing up to republicans after she's been caught lying. Trump eliminated all his competitors without a lick of political experience. "Brass, rude and crass." Call it whatever you want. Americans want him to put it to work for them.
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I don't see Trump as being brave or bold. Look at how he wimped out dealing with the President of Mexico and the other day looking like a chastised puppy by a female clergy person. Putin, or even Merkel will eat him for lunch.
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Two words American - Donald Trump. Don't do it.
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To those who are willing gamble on the devil they do not know remember that those who the gods would destroy they grant their wishes.
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Pity the deplorable cannot "hear or see"
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The thing that strikes me the most about this article is the tremendous complacency of the people who know full well how unqualified Trump is, but think that's OK because he would "shake up the system", all the while counting on the other two branches of government to reign him in.
In the first place this is bizarre and contradictory, since it amounts to counting on the manifestly dysfunctional Congress and short-handed Supreme Court to magically regain their powers just in time to bring a semblance of stability to the (God forbid) Trump Administration.
Second, it rests on nothing more substantial than Alfred E. Newman's worldview - "What, me worry?" Or in Trump's immortal rendering, "What have you got to lose?" This is the mentality of people with a bad gambling problem (Trump's natural audience, by the way), who only think of the upside until they run out of money. But we will run out of a lot more than just money with this fraud at the controls.
In the first place this is bizarre and contradictory, since it amounts to counting on the manifestly dysfunctional Congress and short-handed Supreme Court to magically regain their powers just in time to bring a semblance of stability to the (God forbid) Trump Administration.
Second, it rests on nothing more substantial than Alfred E. Newman's worldview - "What, me worry?" Or in Trump's immortal rendering, "What have you got to lose?" This is the mentality of people with a bad gambling problem (Trump's natural audience, by the way), who only think of the upside until they run out of money. But we will run out of a lot more than just money with this fraud at the controls.
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The most sane of all the same comments I've read this far.
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If the media focused on the issues the country faces, addressed them detail and broke them down for the average reader to digest, then the voters would be armed with information to make informed decisions about their elected leaders. Instead we get personality contests and exposes followed by mindless statistics and polls that only seem to indicate that the voters actually know very little about anything. This is a failure of the media and of education throughout the country - we will reap what we sow.
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They are coming to term with this as Election Day comes closer.
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No one loved the Weimar Republic. The left and right were both unhappy. So in the election of 1932, they chose the outsider who said outrageous things but would "shake things up". He did indeed.
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Sadly, Hitler had a more fiscally responsible tax plan.
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You would probably rate Hillary as much more like Lenin, the warm fuzzy choice for the angry and uprooted. Or perhaps Kim Il Sung.
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Actually, there were two elections in 1932 in Germany. In the second, the National Socialists did get the largest share of the vote, but they were not a majority.
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CBS poll? Aren't they the same people who edited out Bill Clinton's comment that Hillary had frequent episodes of passing out? These polls are generally biased and have become ludicrous
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The NYT's has produce a vast tomb of propaganda for their choice of a candidate, Hilary. All while Sanders was shown to have a better chance of defeating the republican candidates. Now will the NYTs take responsibility when their candidate, who has always polled significantly higher negative ratings in polls, loses to Trump?
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You think the NYT cares if Trump wins? Trump's resurgence helps sell ads and newspapers, helping the corporate masters make a profit. Remember, this is the same NYT that helped sell the Iraq War. Peace doesn't make news and doesn't sell eyeballs.
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Have any of his supporters articulated just how they expect him to be "transformative" or "shake up the establishment"?
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I bet Putin can answer that.
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New York Times as in Bush Bold, right? Because Trump's economic plan is chock full of the same policies - tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, privatizing the VA and lots of other things, growing the deficit, and cutting social programs,- that made Bush such a great president.
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His first four years were indeed a godsend to many American workers. I didn't think anyone remembered. Things really turned south after Pelosi became Speaker and Barney Frank's brainchild exploded the mortgage industry.
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Finally, it's there in front of all our faces. How come 95% of the media cannot see this?
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I remember in 2000 republican voters had concerns about George bush but said the same thing then "his advisors will keep him in check." His advisors turned out to be worse than Bush. These same ignorant voters want to make the same bet Again. I'll be thinking about selling my house and all my stocks. There should be an opportunity to buy them back on the cheap in a few years if trump prevails
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Don't worry, Trump will draw the best from his basket of deplorables.
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Really? A person with numerous bankruptcies, who stiffed employees and believes the US should just pay creditors part of its debts would do better with the economy? Unbelievable.
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Braking News: Donald has completed his first draft Amendment V rewrite and, should he ascend to the Oval, history's bestest ever real estate developer has plans to create a Department of Eminent Domain to be headed by Secretary John Miller.
Hang on to those empty refrigerator boxes folks, you're going to be living in them. Hades knows the fun Donald & Co. will have confiscating your private property (likely including your firearms; however, there is no information to date regarding revisions to Amendment II)!
Updates will be posted as they occur...
Hang on to those empty refrigerator boxes folks, you're going to be living in them. Hades knows the fun Donald & Co. will have confiscating your private property (likely including your firearms; however, there is no information to date regarding revisions to Amendment II)!
Updates will be posted as they occur...
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Americans, think please with your brains and not your emotions. We are talking about a President, not the so-called "Star" of a Reality TV show.
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"Looking more broadly at all registered voters, Mrs. Clinton holds a wider edge, 46 to 41 percent"
"Mrs. Clinton...has the support of 46 percent of likely voters nationwide, compared with 44 percent for Mr. Trump.."
"majority of voters agree w/ her view that most illegal immigrants..should be allowed 2 stay & eventually apply 4 citizenship."
And yet your title is this: "Voters' View of a Donald Trump Presidency: Big Risks and Rewards."
Out of nine statistics you show in the graphic, Donald Trump is ahead in three.
She's clearly the winner in these polls, in both number and importance. Why is she in no part of your title and you include a positive word to describe Donald Trump?
Is this supposed to be false balance, clickbait? This is just one example of how the American media has failed us in this election.
Really disappointed and thinking about cancelling my subscription.
"Mrs. Clinton...has the support of 46 percent of likely voters nationwide, compared with 44 percent for Mr. Trump.."
"majority of voters agree w/ her view that most illegal immigrants..should be allowed 2 stay & eventually apply 4 citizenship."
And yet your title is this: "Voters' View of a Donald Trump Presidency: Big Risks and Rewards."
Out of nine statistics you show in the graphic, Donald Trump is ahead in three.
She's clearly the winner in these polls, in both number and importance. Why is she in no part of your title and you include a positive word to describe Donald Trump?
Is this supposed to be false balance, clickbait? This is just one example of how the American media has failed us in this election.
Really disappointed and thinking about cancelling my subscription.
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I cannot even fathom how Mr. Trump is doing this well in the polls. He has made racist and sexist comments, he cannot take criticism from anyone (what happens when he has disagreement with another country?), he is willing to abandon our allies, he has no plans (oh yes, the wall which Mexico will pay for), he is willing to ban a group of people, he has proposed religious tests and his disrespect for anything resembling the truth is completely nuts. I am reminded of some of Orwell's writings in which if you keep blinding people with lies over and over, they will start to believe you.
Sadly, what does this say about us as a country? I love my country and yes I know that Mrs. Clinton is a flawed candidate. But Mr. Trump has caused such a deep rift in our country that I am saddened and ashamed that he is a presidential candidate. We ARE a great country (not one that Trump is going to make great) with levels of freedom and standards of living that other countries can only dream of. Other countries look to us as a beacon of freedom and hope.
I fear Mr. Trump will destroy everything that is good and great about this nation. I am devastated by what we have become if we cannot see this.
Sadly, what does this say about us as a country? I love my country and yes I know that Mrs. Clinton is a flawed candidate. But Mr. Trump has caused such a deep rift in our country that I am saddened and ashamed that he is a presidential candidate. We ARE a great country (not one that Trump is going to make great) with levels of freedom and standards of living that other countries can only dream of. Other countries look to us as a beacon of freedom and hope.
I fear Mr. Trump will destroy everything that is good and great about this nation. I am devastated by what we have become if we cannot see this.
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All will be fine, he is following the Russian model.
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I'll take Trump and I'm educated.
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...proving that "educated" does not necessarily mean "able to make good decisions."
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I'll take him too, and I'm not edumacated!
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Educated? Really? In what? Self destruction?
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President Obama sold "change", and everyone was buying. Now, people are demanding it. There's only one candidate that represents "change."
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When he took office, the economy was in free fall and bin Laden was still alive.
Did he not change that ?
Did he not change that ?
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People are demanding change. OK. Define it. What do all these people mean by "change?" Change from what to what? Specifically.
I know the change I want. Get all the money out of politics. Do you think Trump is going to do that? And no, he isn't self-funded. That's another Trump lie. He loaned his money to the campaign to be paid back when they can get enough suckers - I mean donors - to give money to this supposed billionaire.
Trump won't change anything except to make things much, much worse. From reports of people who have worked with him he's lazy and not too bright. People all over say that. He's a failed, low-energy businessman who has to go home to his own bed every night or else he's too tired to do anything. Watch one of his rallies. He can barely get his voice above a whisper.
I know the change I want. Get all the money out of politics. Do you think Trump is going to do that? And no, he isn't self-funded. That's another Trump lie. He loaned his money to the campaign to be paid back when they can get enough suckers - I mean donors - to give money to this supposed billionaire.
Trump won't change anything except to make things much, much worse. From reports of people who have worked with him he's lazy and not too bright. People all over say that. He's a failed, low-energy businessman who has to go home to his own bed every night or else he's too tired to do anything. Watch one of his rallies. He can barely get his voice above a whisper.
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Who?
Bold? Really, NYT. Your plumping for Trump is disgusting. It's not "bold" to vote for an imbecile, it's suicidal. Suicidal tendencies aren't "bold" - they're sad, tragic, scary, pathetic, an urgent problem to be solved. God. I'm glad my mother didn't live to see how the Grey Lady has devolved into the National Enquirer.
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Trump supporters seem to want change at any cost. Change just for changes sake is like cutting off your nose and gambling that it will improve your appearance.
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Unbelievably, Trump is somehow managing to manufacture Trump Lite. It has to be killing him, like being gummed to death by a thousand ducks, but he is doing it: controlling the Mussolini inside that is fighting every day to get out. You have to give the guy some credit.
But credit will also be due to those that vote for him or for 3rd party candidates if he wins. That credit will be for what happens after.
But credit will also be due to those that vote for him or for 3rd party candidates if he wins. That credit will be for what happens after.
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The People? Have lost their minds.
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The people are thinking! Even Bernie hates Hillary!
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More than ever the electorate is showing how much they despise the establishment, yet, Hillary's advisers insist on pursuing the ridiculous notion of amplifying Trump's weaknesses rather than upending the status quo and displaying they really want to pursue policies that will appeal to ALL the voters not just their corporate donors.
How out of touch the democratic party remains and they still wonder why they cannot shake "The Donald".
How out of touch the democratic party remains and they still wonder why they cannot shake "The Donald".
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the polls is misleading. Hilary had a failed policy in middle east and that put her in high risk
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Clinton's biggest liability is that she's a female and I'm not sure if American voters as a group are mature enough to elect a woman as president.
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Risky and bold.
Uh huh. I'm sure those are the exact words that were used.
Uh huh. I'm sure those are the exact words that were used.
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Just hope for the best and vote with your heart. I don't think it will make much difference about this country going down the drain.
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Trump U.
The students were not stupid to sign up.
They were going to make a fortune flipping houses and learn how.
Just then, the housing market tanked because of the no down loans that Clinton and the Democrats had forced on the banks.
The students were not stupid to sign up.
They were going to make a fortune flipping houses and learn how.
Just then, the housing market tanked because of the no down loans that Clinton and the Democrats had forced on the banks.
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Corporate media appears to be committing suicide for Hillary. Her followers are in denial. Her campaign is spinning everything. Hillary looks like the definition of weakness. If things keep up it will be like Weekend at Burnies. If Hillary looses the DNC can blame themselves. Sanders should have and would have crushed Trump. The DNC would probably have a better chance switching them now.
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"He can't be bought," they said. I say," that is the wrong question." I ask, "who has he bought, already? Who will he buy? And why?"
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It is not surprising that Trump is rising in the polls.. a majority of the country wants change from the establishment.. Trump is the only candidate that offers that.. but many people were turned off by some of his statements and they were just looking for an excuse to come back to his fold and then happened when he started becoming more disciplined....
If he continues this discipline... he will win!
If he continues this discipline... he will win!
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Trump offers nothing. Show me one example where Trump has ever done anything for anyone except Donald Trump. He's already shown how corrupt he is by paying off the Florida AG and stiffing countless contractors who performed the work required and then he didn't pay them. Do you think he's going to change now? He's 70, kind of dumb, lazy and tired. If god forbid he ever makes it to the presidency he'll sit in the chair on the first day and won't know the first thing about what to do.
He offers change alright. Change for the worse.
He offers change alright. Change for the worse.
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Let's face it Clinton needs to carry the States she has to win, all the blue states Obama won, this is why Trump is attacking Obama as much as he's attacking Clinton. The Democrats are going to have to work as hard as they worked for Obama to make history again.
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The US Government is trying to get Deutsche Bank to pay a $14 billion fine for
Mortgage malmanagement
The same Deutsche Bank that is Trumps go to bank for his loans.
Apart from all his other serious flaws he is seriously conflicted and handing over his business to his brat children will not solve this.
We are heading for a total mess
Mortgage malmanagement
The same Deutsche Bank that is Trumps go to bank for his loans.
Apart from all his other serious flaws he is seriously conflicted and handing over his business to his brat children will not solve this.
We are heading for a total mess
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D. Trump is opinionated, judgmental, unreasonable, narrow-minded, self-centered, selfish , authoritarian, arrogant, belligerent, crude, defiant, greedy, loutish, mean-spirited, opinionated, quixotic, and rude. He does not have a mature character. He will not be able to be an effective president. He is not cooperative and collaborative.
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So now Trump is continuing his birther kick, refusing to admit that President Obama, the first African-American president, was born in the United States. That sunk his African-American support into negative digits, and emboldened the bigots once more.
Legitimizing bigotry is only one of the risks with Trump. The fantasy economic risks that will sink U.S. finances is yet another. The protectionist trade deals that will isolate us, and the hostility toward everyone except White Christians (and maybe some Jews) that will make us a pariah nation is yet another.
These are risks too many. He cannot be allowed to win.
Legitimizing bigotry is only one of the risks with Trump. The fantasy economic risks that will sink U.S. finances is yet another. The protectionist trade deals that will isolate us, and the hostility toward everyone except White Christians (and maybe some Jews) that will make us a pariah nation is yet another.
These are risks too many. He cannot be allowed to win.
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Trump and Pence have gotten smarter and are not providing juicy soundbites. Pence wouldn't allow himself to get caught in a "deplorable" quote." Instead, the campaign team is putting out the statements with the requisite positions (ex., "Trump has renounced David Duke over and over again.")
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I'll take steady over sociopathic any day of the week.
I'm With Her.
I'm With Her.
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She wasn't so steady last Sunday.
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I never thought the race would get this close. If, by some chance and please god don't let this happen, we wake up November 9 and Trump is President, will millions of Americans who voted for him have buyers remorse as those in Britain had after Brexit? Remember there's no do over.
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Risky, perhaps: with other people's lives, opportunities, money.
Bold, perhaps: given what it must take to get out there in spite of the fact that he's not qualified -- has no interest in, and can not do the job.
Bold, perhaps: given what it must take to get out there in spite of the fact that he's not qualified -- has no interest in, and can not do the job.
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South Park really hit it last night when it made fun of this race. We have a giant [vaginal cleaning product] going up against a [feces] sandwich. It's a lose lose either way. The sad thing is that this election would have been in the bag for the democrats if they nominated anyone not named Clinton
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This is exactly the same ruse they pulled in 2004, the end result being getting Democrats just indifferent enough to not vote for Kerry and giving us 4 more years of Bush. I have never forgotten, nor have I forgiven them.
I'm disgusted by the media's consistent attempt to put these two in the same universe of competency or honesty.
I'm still convinced that Viacom forced Jon Stewart out to allow for the rise of Trump, and I wouldn't doubt it if they forced Trey and Matt to make Hillary unappealing.
I'm disgusted by the media's consistent attempt to put these two in the same universe of competency or honesty.
I'm still convinced that Viacom forced Jon Stewart out to allow for the rise of Trump, and I wouldn't doubt it if they forced Trey and Matt to make Hillary unappealing.
Voters want change.
A vote for Hillary is like trading in your new car for a rusty gas guzzler with a gazillion miles and bald tires that has the odometer rolled back to deceive you. No change there. You might as well be bound and gagged in the trunk of a Crown Vic on its way to a remote cornfield.
A vote for Hillary is like trading in your new car for a rusty gas guzzler with a gazillion miles and bald tires that has the odometer rolled back to deceive you. No change there. You might as well be bound and gagged in the trunk of a Crown Vic on its way to a remote cornfield.
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I've never been just out and out scared of what might happen if a certain person was elected President. I've been concerned, sure, but never scared. I am now. Trump... I don't know if half of his supporters represent a basket of despicables, but he surely is himself despicable.
If Trump is elected, I'm not sure our democracy is strong enough to survive.
If Trump is elected, I'm not sure our democracy is strong enough to survive.
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Have no fear. It's gonna be Great!
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As long as Trump wins!
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It's up to you now, Mrs. Clinton. However much you might want to go back and huddle with your wealthiest supporters, however much you might feel justified in going after Donald Trump or his supporters for their comments, it simply won't be enough.
Now is the time, if it ever were, to articulate a strong and unified vision of where you want to take the country, and to convince voters that you alone will be able to pull it off. Show leadership, and we will listen to you, but show anger and spite instead, and we'll start adjusting ourselves to life under President Trump. Your choice.
Now is the time, if it ever were, to articulate a strong and unified vision of where you want to take the country, and to convince voters that you alone will be able to pull it off. Show leadership, and we will listen to you, but show anger and spite instead, and we'll start adjusting ourselves to life under President Trump. Your choice.
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I did my own analysis a few months ago. I came to the conclusion that Hillary could afford to lose Ohio and Florida and still win this election. But, she cannot afford to lose Pennsylvania. She also needs to carry either New Hampshire or Iowa. She can probably count on New Hampshire. I understand Trump has the momentum right now and he’s dominating the headlines, but I go back to the math and the fact that Trump is having a tough time gaining the support of white, suburban, women. As long as the polls in Pennsylvania show her winning, I still suspect that Hillary is going to win the election.
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I think your analysis is spot on re Pennsylvania. But, I live on the Main Line in the Philadelphia suburbs. This was until 20 years or so ago solidly Republican territory. More recently it has become solidly Democratic territory. But I sense a shift for this election. People I never thought would pull the lever for Trump or talking about doing it. They are talking sotto voce. People in small towns around Philadelphia are beginning to support him. I'm not saying he's going to win, but he could and I never thought I would say that. I told my wife not to worry unless he takes the lead in Pennsylvania. If he wins Pennsylvania, it's all over. He'll roll up states like a wet blanket.
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I hope he wins!
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Yes, Fred. There was a reason the DNC was held in Philly and why Obama was in Philly the other day. They know it's a must win.
I cast my first vote in 1968. I've been a Democrat my entire life. It's not that I was enamored with all the Democratic candidates; honestly, I held my nose and voted for Dukakis in 1988, but I could never turn my back on the party that espouses my values.
So, it's a stretch for me to listen to those folks who really dislike Hillary, talk about staying home on election day. The excitement I felt for Obama in 2008 is not there for me this year, but when I think about what we will have to lose if DJT is elected, it is unbearable.
So, it's a stretch for me to listen to those folks who really dislike Hillary, talk about staying home on election day. The excitement I felt for Obama in 2008 is not there for me this year, but when I think about what we will have to lose if DJT is elected, it is unbearable.
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In every presidential race I've witnessed since 1976, it's not how you start, it's how you finish. SInce announcing his run last year, Trump has made countless fumbles and stumbles that have favored Hillary by keeping her own bad news below the radar. Now that Hillary has stumbled badly with her broadly insulting "deplorables" comment, her secrecy over the illness that caused her to coillapse at the 9/11 Memorial and evade the ER per Secret Service protocol, the drip-drip-drip of bad news like Colin Powell's leaked emails, and the Damocles Sword of Wikileaks' promised release of highly damaging emails free of censoring and redaction are receiving far more coverage now that Trump is behaving himself and staying on point more than in the past, Hillary can only pray that Trump loses it at the debates or screws up royally before the election.
Even worse for Clinton, Trump is hitting the campaign trail hard, making two to three stops every day in key states as Hillary recuperates from whatever ails her. Bad time to miss even one campaign stop less than eight weeks out. There is still the possibility that bad news like the coming announcements of double-digit ObamaCare hikes the week before the election, could be devastating not only for Hillary but Democrats nationwide. Trump being Trump could still screw it all up, but if the pace of bad news for Hillary and tightening polls for Trump continue, he just might win.
Even worse for Clinton, Trump is hitting the campaign trail hard, making two to three stops every day in key states as Hillary recuperates from whatever ails her. Bad time to miss even one campaign stop less than eight weeks out. There is still the possibility that bad news like the coming announcements of double-digit ObamaCare hikes the week before the election, could be devastating not only for Hillary but Democrats nationwide. Trump being Trump could still screw it all up, but if the pace of bad news for Hillary and tightening polls for Trump continue, he just might win.
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"like Colin Powell's leaked emails"...In which he says, and remember this is a Republican, that Trump is a disgrace to the Nation and an international pariah. And no matter what else he said about Clinton, he also said that he respects her....And you count that as being damaging to Clinton????? A perfect example of why Trump is still in the race...voters aren't listening.
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Hillary Clinton is a cautious “incrementalist” but young voters and others unhappy with the status quo are looking for a president who is an imaginative and bold change agent. Sketched below are positions Hillary might consider to gain their support:
Taxation: Shifting from taxing income to taxing consumption (with exceptions for basics).
Private social issues: Ending governmental purview.
Gun control. Illegalization of assault weapons. Federal standards for regulating sales, ownership, storage, use and disposition of all other private firearms.
Trade: Trade-offs between jobs-centric and consumers-centric options resolved to best benefit the entire American economy.
Health care: Affordable access to basic services made a right of every citizen, like basic education.
Special aid programs: All subject to statutory sunset clauses.
Foreign affairs and national security: Phasing out nuclear weapons by a firm date.
Energy and environmental protection: Replacing, by a firm date, fossil fuels with renewable sources of energy.
Education: Promoting competition in primary and secondary public schools.
Crime: Greater reliance on rehabilitating criminals and reduced resort to imprisonment and punishment.
Science and innovation: Government becoming a more reliable partner of industry in high-risk scientific explorations potentially yielding major benefits to society.
Taxation: Shifting from taxing income to taxing consumption (with exceptions for basics).
Private social issues: Ending governmental purview.
Gun control. Illegalization of assault weapons. Federal standards for regulating sales, ownership, storage, use and disposition of all other private firearms.
Trade: Trade-offs between jobs-centric and consumers-centric options resolved to best benefit the entire American economy.
Health care: Affordable access to basic services made a right of every citizen, like basic education.
Special aid programs: All subject to statutory sunset clauses.
Foreign affairs and national security: Phasing out nuclear weapons by a firm date.
Energy and environmental protection: Replacing, by a firm date, fossil fuels with renewable sources of energy.
Education: Promoting competition in primary and secondary public schools.
Crime: Greater reliance on rehabilitating criminals and reduced resort to imprisonment and punishment.
Science and innovation: Government becoming a more reliable partner of industry in high-risk scientific explorations potentially yielding major benefits to society.
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The most important change we need is to reduce the income and wealth inequality. Cutting taxes of the rich, as Trump proposes, will not and cannot bring about this change. This would be the same trickle-down mantra republicans have been chanting election after election. All that has happened is that the rich got richer and the poor stayed poor or got even poorer.
Trump proposes to throw out the illegal immigrants. That itself will not do much to resolve inequality. Further, this sort of talk is just talk and will be politically impossible to implement.
Bringing back jobs from China or Mexico or other low wage countries sounds great as a campaign slogan for change. It may create some new low wage jobs but will greatly increase the price of consumer goods leading to sudden inflation.
Trump's war-mongering against muslim countries is a great slogan to get votes but Trump will quickly find, if he gets elected, that if he actually succeeds in implementing, he will quickly deplete the US treasury leading to inflation and devaluation of the dollar.
So, folks, the change Trump is talking about is foolish man’s prattle and insane talk. Stay with HRC if you want a stable economy, a stable country, and a sensible foreign policy.
Trump proposes to throw out the illegal immigrants. That itself will not do much to resolve inequality. Further, this sort of talk is just talk and will be politically impossible to implement.
Bringing back jobs from China or Mexico or other low wage countries sounds great as a campaign slogan for change. It may create some new low wage jobs but will greatly increase the price of consumer goods leading to sudden inflation.
Trump's war-mongering against muslim countries is a great slogan to get votes but Trump will quickly find, if he gets elected, that if he actually succeeds in implementing, he will quickly deplete the US treasury leading to inflation and devaluation of the dollar.
So, folks, the change Trump is talking about is foolish man’s prattle and insane talk. Stay with HRC if you want a stable economy, a stable country, and a sensible foreign policy.
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Change for change's sake has unanticipated consequences. Look at the great sexual revolution of the 1980s, and previously unimaginable sex acts with complete strangers (such as analingus). The "hangover" was the HIV epidemic.
Since bad history repeats itself, the "hangover" from a Trump election had been seen in Germany in the ruins of 1945.
Since bad history repeats itself, the "hangover" from a Trump election had been seen in Germany in the ruins of 1945.
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1. Many people have stated that Trump's tax returns would show his dependence on Russian capital.
"After his bankruptcy and business failures roughly a decade ago Trump has had an increasingly difficult time finding sources of capital for new investments. As I noted above, Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks with the exception of Deutschebank, which is of course a foreign bank with a major US presence. He has steadied and rebuilt his financial empire with a heavy reliance on capital from Russia. At a minimum the Trump organization is receiving lots of investment capital from people close to Vladimir Putin."
2. The tax returns could show he's not as wealthy as he claims.
3. They would show how he's avoiding paying taxes, through loopholes and dubious deductions.
4. They could show that he's a tax cheat, which may be one reason why he's being audited.
5. They could show he's been using offshore bank accounts.
6. They could show he's been lying about donating to charity.
https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/07/28/here-are-all-reasons-media-...
"After his bankruptcy and business failures roughly a decade ago Trump has had an increasingly difficult time finding sources of capital for new investments. As I noted above, Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks with the exception of Deutschebank, which is of course a foreign bank with a major US presence. He has steadied and rebuilt his financial empire with a heavy reliance on capital from Russia. At a minimum the Trump organization is receiving lots of investment capital from people close to Vladimir Putin."
2. The tax returns could show he's not as wealthy as he claims.
3. They would show how he's avoiding paying taxes, through loopholes and dubious deductions.
4. They could show that he's a tax cheat, which may be one reason why he's being audited.
5. They could show he's been using offshore bank accounts.
6. They could show he's been lying about donating to charity.
https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/07/28/here-are-all-reasons-media-...
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Hillary and the democrats are not listening to the people they are supposed to represent. Trump is listening. His execution plans are vague or not realistic or off the wall.
Hillary is a smart lady. If she wants to win she should start listening to the people and come up with specific realistic plans to solve the problems that are driving them to Trump.
The problems driving people to Trump start with jobs and the economy for the formerly middle class. If she provides some reasonable realistic solutions to help with these problems she should be able to win over some of the Trump supporters and hopefully win the election.
Hillary is a smart lady. If she wants to win she should start listening to the people and come up with specific realistic plans to solve the problems that are driving them to Trump.
The problems driving people to Trump start with jobs and the economy for the formerly middle class. If she provides some reasonable realistic solutions to help with these problems she should be able to win over some of the Trump supporters and hopefully win the election.
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"Trump is listening"....Maybe, but it is pretty clear people aren't listening to Trump or he would be lucky to be at 10%
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Republican obstructionism and intransigence cultivated a sense of anger towards and disgust with our government. It is therefore unsurprising that has paved the way for the election of a demagogue. Should Trump win, he should thank the Republican congressional leadership.
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It is hard to imagine how anyone could even consider voting for Secretary Clinton. Her record as a professional politician with horrific consequences for the entire world (death, killings, mass migrations, double dealings, etc.) makes her the most unattractive candidate to run for the Presidency in my 62 years of life. Anyone who supports her is NOT an American.
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Thanks for the laugh, Jeff!
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Just in case you're confused, I'm not laughing with you...
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Just in case you're confused, I'm not laughing with you...
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And anybody who supports Trump doesn't know anything about the Constitution, government, nor what America stands for.
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"he is seen as more transformative and better at handling the economy"
Trump just gave his economic speech. It boils down to tax cuts and dynamic scoring to prove the validity of more "Trickle Down" to create jobs and reduce the deficit.
This is a decades long, failed Republican prescription for our economy has only delivered ever increasing debt and the worst wealth inequality since the Gilded Age.
Trump just gave his economic speech. It boils down to tax cuts and dynamic scoring to prove the validity of more "Trickle Down" to create jobs and reduce the deficit.
This is a decades long, failed Republican prescription for our economy has only delivered ever increasing debt and the worst wealth inequality since the Gilded Age.
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Mr. Trump is a narcissistic sociopathic pathological lying con artist ignoranus. Hillary's certainly not perfect but she's not evil and won't blow up the world if she perceives an insult. Despicable Don wants to be a dictator, Hillary just wants to be President.
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Voters are looking for constructive change, not change for the worse.
The Republican controlled Congress has a 11% approval rating.
President Obama has a 53% approval rating.
Americans need to vote the GOP obstructionist bums in Congress out to get America moving in the proper direction again.
Republicans burned the country down to the ground and sat on their hands for President Obama to fix it.
The Republican controlled Congress has a 11% approval rating.
President Obama has a 53% approval rating.
Americans need to vote the GOP obstructionist bums in Congress out to get America moving in the proper direction again.
Republicans burned the country down to the ground and sat on their hands for President Obama to fix it.
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The unreality of American political reality has me reeling. Nearing 70, blessed with more money than I'll ever need, I have watched with alarm and growing apprehension since the sixties this fine country drift toward a complete failure
of the contract between the people and their so called elected so called leaders.
No where else in the industrialized world do citizens let their government and the 1% that supports it lie to them as a matter of policy. Now comes Trump.
The single biggest liar in history with his faux populist bilge. This course of events could have never occurred if the Fourth Estate had done its job. In their zeal for shareholder value, they may well find themselves locked out of their places of employ if Trump succeeds. It is of no comfort to think it serves them right. What it serves is a horrific unstitching of 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'
of the contract between the people and their so called elected so called leaders.
No where else in the industrialized world do citizens let their government and the 1% that supports it lie to them as a matter of policy. Now comes Trump.
The single biggest liar in history with his faux populist bilge. This course of events could have never occurred if the Fourth Estate had done its job. In their zeal for shareholder value, they may well find themselves locked out of their places of employ if Trump succeeds. It is of no comfort to think it serves them right. What it serves is a horrific unstitching of 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.'
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If the 1% are all in for Trump how do you explain all the wealthy backing for Clinton - George Soros, for one salient and scary example?
How do you explain the blatant hostility to Trump in the MSM? Patrick Caddell says he's seen nothing approaching it in 45 years of polling and covering politics.
No, the elite are, for whatever reason, panicked by Trump, which makes me that much more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
How do you explain the blatant hostility to Trump in the MSM? Patrick Caddell says he's seen nothing approaching it in 45 years of polling and covering politics.
No, the elite are, for whatever reason, panicked by Trump, which makes me that much more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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The phrasing of the questions might have been taken into account in conducting this poll. As the psychologists Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman showed, the results can be quite different, for example, if you ask a group of people how they would feel about undergoing a major operation if their chances of survival were 9 out of 10, 90 per cent or if their chances of dying were 1 out of 10, ten per cent. Although the probabilities are the same, more people would feel okay about having the operation hearing the first odds than the second.
In this case, the reporters might have asked one set of voters, would they vote for Trump if the change he brought about would include a 10 per cent higher risk of another recession in the next four years--and another set a 90 per cent chance of the next presidential term being years of prosperity.
Posing these different questions about risk might help to improve the predictability of the poll.
In this case, the reporters might have asked one set of voters, would they vote for Trump if the change he brought about would include a 10 per cent higher risk of another recession in the next four years--and another set a 90 per cent chance of the next presidential term being years of prosperity.
Posing these different questions about risk might help to improve the predictability of the poll.
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The arrogance on display here is frightening. Maybe people hate the Clintons (actually just Hillary- Bill is amazing) because of her arrogance. Her presumption that she deserves the presidency. That half the nation is stupid because they do not want to vote for her. Such arrogance by liberal elites who are successful mainly because they were born into well-to-do families is sickening. Instead of asking why people hate Hillary they assume that anyone who does not agree with their liberal worldview is clearly an idiot. Such a mindset is a massive factor in why our country is so polarized. Have an open mind- commentators here are just as close minded as the conservatives they love to call names
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If they had "open minds" the third party candidates would be doing much better.
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Trump continues to deny that President Obama was born in the US. I have come to the conclusion that he really believes this nonsense. The inability to recognize facts seems to me to be indicative of a person not qualified to be President of the US.
Trump plan in the waning days of this election is to make all kind of promises without anyone challenging him on specifics. It should would be nice if Mike Wallace was still around to cross examine Trump.
Trump plan in the waning days of this election is to make all kind of promises without anyone challenging him on specifics. It should would be nice if Mike Wallace was still around to cross examine Trump.
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I'll go with the conservative but mentally stable and competent choice over nutty and unpredictable with strong socio-pathic tendencies pretty much any day when we're voting for President.
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I take it that Hillary's your choice.
I get it, she has troubling flaws. So has every elected US president. One of the Hillary advantages is that we know hers well.
How anyone could believe Trump is better at handling the economy with his issues of bankruptcy, cons, university scam, bogus foundation etc. is beyond me. Not to mention the issue of electing someone, whom, if your child displayed half the traits of this grown man -- you'd ship off to military school, juvenile detention, an adoption agency or a mental health center -- if a cleric wasn't available to perform an exorcism outright.
While he scares me, with every passing day, I am far more afraid of a significant percentage of my fellow countrymen who would take a turn of the Jeopardy Wheel to elect him despite the racist, misogynist, cynical, bigoted, uninformed, ignorant, self-serving, untruthful, and dangerous things he has said. Did I miss an adjective?
I'm a middle-aged white guy living in a country I don't understand (at least 42% of it), and that I thought was smart enough to see through a reality show cartoon. What happened to we baby-boomer & X-Generation kids on the road of life to make us so cynical and jaded that we'd even think of letting someone this third-rate manage the country we love and endanger the world we wish our kids to inherit? I want mom's money back for that Dr. Spock book.
I sit and ponder these things sewing maple leaf patches to my clothes, ordering "No really, I'm Canadian" T-shirts and learning "O Canada". Ok, having a Monarch as Official Head of State is tough to take but better monarch than maniac, eh? Did I get the accent right?
While he scares me, with every passing day, I am far more afraid of a significant percentage of my fellow countrymen who would take a turn of the Jeopardy Wheel to elect him despite the racist, misogynist, cynical, bigoted, uninformed, ignorant, self-serving, untruthful, and dangerous things he has said. Did I miss an adjective?
I'm a middle-aged white guy living in a country I don't understand (at least 42% of it), and that I thought was smart enough to see through a reality show cartoon. What happened to we baby-boomer & X-Generation kids on the road of life to make us so cynical and jaded that we'd even think of letting someone this third-rate manage the country we love and endanger the world we wish our kids to inherit? I want mom's money back for that Dr. Spock book.
I sit and ponder these things sewing maple leaf patches to my clothes, ordering "No really, I'm Canadian" T-shirts and learning "O Canada". Ok, having a Monarch as Official Head of State is tough to take but better monarch than maniac, eh? Did I get the accent right?
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It is amazing to me that 85% of Republicans support Trump. Do they not care what happens to their country? Trump has promised a new ground war in the middle east. More young men and women dying in the desert sands in a region of the world that is all but utterly hostile to western values and strongly against America on every level.
The great evil in America is not right or left is excessive partisanship, the idea that we would support any candidate so long as he or she is not from the other party. Decency has flown the coup. A sense of commonality and shared values has been hacked away by furiously partisan media and the public, sheep like, has thanked this propaganda based media for herding them into dark, opposing corners.
The Democrats have in Hillary Clinton a very weak candidate who staggers not just when ill, but in ordinary days when she should rise upward and bring supporters to her side. Of course, the Clintons were damaged tremendously by the Republican's opposition, royalist and exclusionary to the core, those who could never stomach the idea that the two of them, not born to wealth or position, could rise to the White House regardless of party. To prove themselves right, they must work assiduously to ensure that the Clinton's are wrong.
I despair for our country and for what I once thought was some sense of common values. The Trump supporters would vote for well trained hamster, so long as it wasn't Hillary. In fact, isn't that what sits on Trumps forehead?
The great evil in America is not right or left is excessive partisanship, the idea that we would support any candidate so long as he or she is not from the other party. Decency has flown the coup. A sense of commonality and shared values has been hacked away by furiously partisan media and the public, sheep like, has thanked this propaganda based media for herding them into dark, opposing corners.
The Democrats have in Hillary Clinton a very weak candidate who staggers not just when ill, but in ordinary days when she should rise upward and bring supporters to her side. Of course, the Clintons were damaged tremendously by the Republican's opposition, royalist and exclusionary to the core, those who could never stomach the idea that the two of them, not born to wealth or position, could rise to the White House regardless of party. To prove themselves right, they must work assiduously to ensure that the Clinton's are wrong.
I despair for our country and for what I once thought was some sense of common values. The Trump supporters would vote for well trained hamster, so long as it wasn't Hillary. In fact, isn't that what sits on Trumps forehead?
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Well, I'd say the world is in a tough spot. The countries that are home to the world's two largest national economies are both troubled polities. One of them, China, is of course led by a bunch of corrupt autocrats who believe that democracy is the biggest sham, joke, and farce ever foisted upon the world by Western civilization.
And looking at the United States in 2016--well, can you blame the Chinese communists for thinking that way? The USA is stuck in a Second Gilded Age and its people can't seem to muster the will to get out of it as their predecessors did 100 years ago at the end of the First Gilded Age--giving us wonderful things that we now take for granted like the weekend, child labor laws, overtime pay, and so forth.
A Trump presidency will enable vulture fund types like Mitt Romney to realize their long-held dream of imposing a kind of "shock doctrine" on the United States, effectively looting the country by swooping down from their lofty perches to pick at the carcass below. Don't let Romney's warnings about Trump fool you. Multimillionaires like him are chomping at the bit. Think of what Mobutu did to Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo). Mobutu himself declared that everything was for sale under his leadership. The same will be true in the USA if Trump becomes president.
And looking at the United States in 2016--well, can you blame the Chinese communists for thinking that way? The USA is stuck in a Second Gilded Age and its people can't seem to muster the will to get out of it as their predecessors did 100 years ago at the end of the First Gilded Age--giving us wonderful things that we now take for granted like the weekend, child labor laws, overtime pay, and so forth.
A Trump presidency will enable vulture fund types like Mitt Romney to realize their long-held dream of imposing a kind of "shock doctrine" on the United States, effectively looting the country by swooping down from their lofty perches to pick at the carcass below. Don't let Romney's warnings about Trump fool you. Multimillionaires like him are chomping at the bit. Think of what Mobutu did to Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo). Mobutu himself declared that everything was for sale under his leadership. The same will be true in the USA if Trump becomes president.
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Umm, the country has been being looted for decades.
Think 80's savings and loan debacle. Star Wars. Drug War. War on Terror. Central bank policies generating serial bubbles. Central bank zero interest policies and QE robbing savers and consumers. Think NAFTA. Think serial wars, interventions and a global military presence. Think of the national debt increasing by a trillion dollars a year under the current administration.
It's a miracle there is anything *left* to loot.
Trump may prove to be part of the solution to this ongoing train wreck.
The Clintons, on the other hand, are demonstrably part (and not a small one, either) of the problem.
Think 80's savings and loan debacle. Star Wars. Drug War. War on Terror. Central bank policies generating serial bubbles. Central bank zero interest policies and QE robbing savers and consumers. Think NAFTA. Think serial wars, interventions and a global military presence. Think of the national debt increasing by a trillion dollars a year under the current administration.
It's a miracle there is anything *left* to loot.
Trump may prove to be part of the solution to this ongoing train wreck.
The Clintons, on the other hand, are demonstrably part (and not a small one, either) of the problem.
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Trump certainly would be "more transformative." That is what Hillary supporters are most afraid of. They fear what he would transform us into, the damage he would do.
So both sides agree on that. One side thinks that is good. They are so angry, so disgusted with the status quo, that more transformative is a risk they'll take.
Why do they feel that way? What does Hillary have to offer for those who feel that way?
They don't know. They don't believe the few things they've heard. They see the face of the problem they want solved, and it is Hillary's face.
For her to win, she needs to do something about that, for a good many of those people. Telling them Trump is a demon, like Putin, like Hitler, just is not going to do it; it just turns them off.
Hillary's supporters genuinely believe that she does have something much better to offer those exact people who think she does not.
A campaign is supposed to convince them of that, communicate that, not just insult the voters who don't believe it while calling the other candidate every name possible. This campaign started with women who did not support a woman "having a special place in hell," and went down hill from there with abuse.
Sure Trump abuses too. It works for him. He's the transformational candidate. It does not work for Hillary. See the numbers -- it isn't working. It is Trump's game.
She has a different task, to convince of responsible, reasonable, safe as a good thing. Safe is not automatically good for some.
So both sides agree on that. One side thinks that is good. They are so angry, so disgusted with the status quo, that more transformative is a risk they'll take.
Why do they feel that way? What does Hillary have to offer for those who feel that way?
They don't know. They don't believe the few things they've heard. They see the face of the problem they want solved, and it is Hillary's face.
For her to win, she needs to do something about that, for a good many of those people. Telling them Trump is a demon, like Putin, like Hitler, just is not going to do it; it just turns them off.
Hillary's supporters genuinely believe that she does have something much better to offer those exact people who think she does not.
A campaign is supposed to convince them of that, communicate that, not just insult the voters who don't believe it while calling the other candidate every name possible. This campaign started with women who did not support a woman "having a special place in hell," and went down hill from there with abuse.
Sure Trump abuses too. It works for him. He's the transformational candidate. It does not work for Hillary. See the numbers -- it isn't working. It is Trump's game.
She has a different task, to convince of responsible, reasonable, safe as a good thing. Safe is not automatically good for some.
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I hate to sound so cynical, but could it be that the media is favoring Trump because they know he will keep providing lots of good ink, which of course equals increased revenue, should he - Heavens forbid - get into the White House?
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TV cares about ratings, as well as they should. Their board has a fiduciary duty to maximize the profit. We only hurt oiselvs by ignoring human greed and corporate morales. We set ourselves up for defeat by projecting expectations from our perspectives.hoping that others think like us and since I feel X is the right thing to do so they or everyone else should think that as well.
TV will always provide chaos, as we never stop to look at millions of cars driving absolutely normally on our highways, which constitute 99% of drivers, but accidents are looked, discussed and assumed that people are just getting worse at driving.
Perspective matters,
TV will always provide chaos, as we never stop to look at millions of cars driving absolutely normally on our highways, which constitute 99% of drivers, but accidents are looked, discussed and assumed that people are just getting worse at driving.
Perspective matters,
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In Michigan Clinton goes from 11 point lead down to 3.
This is the end.
She will pull a Torricelli and pull out to protect the Clinton fortune.
The Clinton Two Hundred Million fortune and control over Two billion foundation is in play.
Giuliani or Christie as AG will file RICO with its triple damages and take it away from them.
This is the end.
She will pull a Torricelli and pull out to protect the Clinton fortune.
The Clinton Two Hundred Million fortune and control over Two billion foundation is in play.
Giuliani or Christie as AG will file RICO with its triple damages and take it away from them.
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For a President of the United States to make positive changes requires a deep thinker who understands all the people and institutions with which he/she must work to accomplish the goals. Such people can have a conversation about any relevant subject in their area of responsibility and anticipate the outcomes of any particular set of actions regarding anything discussed. They can guide their subordinates exactly towards what they want done without leading them by the nose nor micromanaging them because they already know what their subordinates will do and how because they have so well studied the circumstances. They do not just give their people a vision and let them have at it. That kind of leadership results in a lot of wasted efforts and wasted time where resources are limited and time is not plentiful.
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Never mind that half of Trump's supporters may fit in the deplorable basket. Close to half of the electorate is bamboozleable.
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Enough already.
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Yesterday, the CEO of the Clinton Foundation, Donna Shalala, went on MSNBC and openly admitted to engaging in "pay-for-play" activities saying there is "no question" that Foundation donors received "courtesy appointments" during Hillary's tenure as Secretary of State.
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That's not true. That's a blatant lie. How could you post such a lie?
Donna Shalala, Clinton Foundation President, denies that there was any pay for play:
"There's no evidence that policy was impacted by anyone requesting an appointment. So let me dispute any indication that Mrs. Clinton's behavior on policy was changed in any way," Shalala said. "The most important thing is, this is a magnificent foundation that has reinvented philanthropy."
"I don't care who asked for what. It never happened. It just did not happen," Shalala said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/clinton-foundation-donna-shalala/
Donna Shalala, Clinton Foundation President, denies that there was any pay for play:
"There's no evidence that policy was impacted by anyone requesting an appointment. So let me dispute any indication that Mrs. Clinton's behavior on policy was changed in any way," Shalala said. "The most important thing is, this is a magnificent foundation that has reinvented philanthropy."
"I don't care who asked for what. It never happened. It just did not happen," Shalala said.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/clinton-foundation-donna-shalala/
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Mike, you lie.
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Not true.
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It's a very easy choice, in spite of the now-mediocre New York Times editorial staff: either vote for Trump, a bullying Fascist, or Clinton, a hard-working woman who has the "nerve" not to dumb herself down to appeal to the millions in this country who cannot fathom a woman in power. Rock on, Mrs. Clinton! Even though Maggie Haberman is calling the editorial shots (and firing blanks), Mrs. Clinton will not quit and will ultimately be our next president. She is not the problem with this election; we are.
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When I hear trump disparage women and minorities, especially Muslims, I think- I want MORE of this! This is what we need! As far as what happens after the game is won for us, well... Who cares??!
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Let's concede that Trump can withhold taxes under audit. Why are we not getting the taxes from 2014? 2013? 2012? Are they all under audit? Those returns would in fact more accurately reflect Trump's customary approach to taxes and charity.
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Let's see. It is true that Hillary Clinton will not be prosecuted for anything.
It is true that Donald Trump will likely be prosecuted for bribing a public official.
It is true that Hillary is well trained and ready and we have a 95% chance of the country doing better without wars while she's president.
It is true that Donald Trump might do spectacularly well, but his advisors are the ones who created the Great Recession. I think he might have a 60% chance of doing better than Hillary, though. Maybe shaking up everything won't crack all our old alliances and bring our relative political stability crashing down on our heads. I mean, who wants war with Holland? It is also true that America has about a 30% chance of doing worse than we're doing now with Trump. And there's a 10X's greater risk with Trump of absolute disaster and even devastation & death for just about everyone, except Trump & his ultra-rightwingers of course.
It is true that Donald Trump will likely be prosecuted for bribing a public official.
It is true that Hillary is well trained and ready and we have a 95% chance of the country doing better without wars while she's president.
It is true that Donald Trump might do spectacularly well, but his advisors are the ones who created the Great Recession. I think he might have a 60% chance of doing better than Hillary, though. Maybe shaking up everything won't crack all our old alliances and bring our relative political stability crashing down on our heads. I mean, who wants war with Holland? It is also true that America has about a 30% chance of doing worse than we're doing now with Trump. And there's a 10X's greater risk with Trump of absolute disaster and even devastation & death for just about everyone, except Trump & his ultra-rightwingers of course.
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I'm laughing at all the liberal fools who declared he race over after Clinton's post-convention rise in the polls. I'm laughing even harder at everyone who was saying Trump might as well drop out of the race because he had zero chance of winning.
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@Dan--Remember, Grasshopper: She who laughs last, laughs longest; I'd wager eight years.
I'm with her.
I'm with her.
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I suspect they're the same people predicting the GOP was toast before the 2010 and 2014 midterms.
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Young people are disappointing. They need to work in car washes and burger joints their entire lives.
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Trump is a "risky" choice. But I don't know what's "bold" about his policies. Extreme nationalism, xenophobia, crudeness, sexism and racism are not "bold" virtues. They are the easiest traits for a coward to adopt. Abraham Lincoln, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela and Pope Francis were truly bold men. They fought for righteousness without relying on humans' darkest impulses. Trump is risky but he is not bold. He is a coward.
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To all the commenters now oh-so-smugly saying "I told you so!" about how, if only the pure-as-snow Bernie Sanders were running, it would game over for Trump, I ask you this:
Where is Mr. Sanders? Ever since his summer vow to stop a Trump presidency at all costs, the silence coming from him has been deafening. He doesn't even seem to be present in the Senate, ostensibly the position of "service" to which we the people elected him (where was he during the Democratic gun-control filibustering / sit-in, when his supposed colleagues were at least attempting to address our nation's rampant gun violence?).
For someone so dedicated to his "principles," Bernie seems to be conspicuously absent from an increasingly dire election.
Where is Mr. Sanders? Ever since his summer vow to stop a Trump presidency at all costs, the silence coming from him has been deafening. He doesn't even seem to be present in the Senate, ostensibly the position of "service" to which we the people elected him (where was he during the Democratic gun-control filibustering / sit-in, when his supposed colleagues were at least attempting to address our nation's rampant gun violence?).
For someone so dedicated to his "principles," Bernie seems to be conspicuously absent from an increasingly dire election.
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He's been too busy buying and decorating his new vacation home.
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He is watching the democratic party implode, "all by itself".
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Polls are only truly meaningful for the candidates themselves, as a measure of how their messages are being received. BUT, they are THOROUGHLY USELESS for voters themselves. It provides not an ounce of information about why should one vote for one candidate or the other.
So, please NYT, put you better analysis and information front and center. Leave the polls to the "back" section.
So, please NYT, put you better analysis and information front and center. Leave the polls to the "back" section.
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This whole thing is a farce and this election really hammers it home. The truth is that the office President of the US of A is at best a public relations position and what's gonna happen is what's gonna happen regardless of what you and I have to say about it. Every four years they hold a popularity contest (in this case an unpopularity contest) so you can choose who you'd prefer to have sell it to you.
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Agreed, except that Supreme Court justices do matter, for generations to come. IMO, the best and perhaps only reason to vote for Hillary.
Trump is bold and will shake up the dysfunctional old establishment in Washington? Not likely. What he will do is create so much confusion with his poor considered demands that it will just not function at all. I wonder whether people who think that Trump will shake things up have any grasp of how any organization that is so big, that will endure for many generations, and must in the end always serve the interests of the people must operate with an accountability that only a bureaucracy can provide.
In organization that is answerable to just one person, it must be accountable to just one person who is free to run it as he/she pleases. One person rule can be decisive but can cause big failures. In the most tyrannical regime of the 20th century, things did work that way. Hitler stated what he wanted done and expected subordinates to accomplish it by any means necessary, no rules, no standards, no directions, and no efforts to assure that anyone was cooperating with anyone else. The subordinates were obliged to find ways to make order out of chaos, and not rarely the major obstacle to accomplishing their tasks was Hitler micromanaging where he was not capable but actually thought that he was smarter than everyone else. Fortunately for Germany's foes, his decisions and his interference eliminated many chances Germany had to avoid catastrophes and to gain advantages which might have enable Germany to win the War or to persist for several more years before being defeated.
In organization that is answerable to just one person, it must be accountable to just one person who is free to run it as he/she pleases. One person rule can be decisive but can cause big failures. In the most tyrannical regime of the 20th century, things did work that way. Hitler stated what he wanted done and expected subordinates to accomplish it by any means necessary, no rules, no standards, no directions, and no efforts to assure that anyone was cooperating with anyone else. The subordinates were obliged to find ways to make order out of chaos, and not rarely the major obstacle to accomplishing their tasks was Hitler micromanaging where he was not capable but actually thought that he was smarter than everyone else. Fortunately for Germany's foes, his decisions and his interference eliminated many chances Germany had to avoid catastrophes and to gain advantages which might have enable Germany to win the War or to persist for several more years before being defeated.
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It will be over soon, very soon...
This is much, much too easy to predict. At the first presidential debate in two weeks, Donald Trump is very likely to become unglued over a minor something which doesn't go his way. Since virtually no Trumpites will be in the audience to offer support, things will quickly deteriorate. The man just can't help himself, since he's been so accustomed to owning and managing a private company where dissension is a career-shortening move.
When the emperor-who-has-no-clothes is exposed on national TV, then it's over, really over.
Can't wait to read all of the Times' op-ed writers' columns within twenty four hours of that debacle, by which time Trump may have already resigned his candidacy under extreme pressure from RNC leadership and major donors.
This is much, much too easy to predict. At the first presidential debate in two weeks, Donald Trump is very likely to become unglued over a minor something which doesn't go his way. Since virtually no Trumpites will be in the audience to offer support, things will quickly deteriorate. The man just can't help himself, since he's been so accustomed to owning and managing a private company where dissension is a career-shortening move.
When the emperor-who-has-no-clothes is exposed on national TV, then it's over, really over.
Can't wait to read all of the Times' op-ed writers' columns within twenty four hours of that debacle, by which time Trump may have already resigned his candidacy under extreme pressure from RNC leadership and major donors.
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Why is the headline, as usual, about Trump? Why not "CLINTON SEEN AS SAFER THAN TRUMP?"
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Easy. Because Trump is controversial and controversy sells in the world of corporate media.
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I don't know how big the basket of deplorables is. But I know for certain that the two charter members are Hillary and the Donald.
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By and large, Americans are bigots and do not have the critical thinking to ruminate beyond sensational journalism and candidates who spread falsehoods with relative impunity.
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There is a straight line between the obstructionism of the House and Senate Republicans during the Obama Presidency, and its resultant government paralysis and the desire by many Americans to "shake up" the establishment. For those who said "divided government is good" - here's your answer - Donald Trump.
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Black Child With BB Gun Is Shot by Police in Columbus, Ohio
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Tyree King, 13, was fatally shot as officers responded to a report of an armed robbery, the police said.
I predict that a Donald Trump presidency will be marked by an all-war by the police against children of color. The U.S. will become like Russia, Syria or the Philippines.
By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA
Tyree King, 13, was fatally shot as officers responded to a report of an armed robbery, the police said.
I predict that a Donald Trump presidency will be marked by an all-war by the police against children of color. The U.S. will become like Russia, Syria or the Philippines.
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You neglect to mention the fact that the teenager pulled out what looked like a gun. Just because someone was shot by police doesn't automatically mean it was racist
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Tamir Rice was 12 and he was shot and killed because he had a toy gun in a park in Cleveland, Ohio.
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Beware of Hillary Clinton walking up to you with a loaf of bread under each arm and then telling you she is hungry.
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If his supporters have been making their life decisions the same way they are making their election voting decision, no wonder their lives are in such disarray and they feel that everything is on the wrong track for the nation. Their added delusion is thinking the government or larger forces have more to do with where they are than their own flawed decision-making processes.
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Thank you for saying that, Eb. Your statement accurately describes much of what lies behind late 20th and early 21st century conservatism.
If Trump gets elected, I believe media will have a big part of the responsibility. Whatever Trump says or does is reported over and over. He made a proposal for paid maternity leave, it was reported like it is a very big deal. HRC made much better proposals regarding the maternity and paternity leave months ago, but nobody even mentions them. Media made a lot of fuss about Hillary’s “deplorables” comment: they actually turned her comments totally upside down. What she said was not that she considers some Trump supporters deplorable because they have a different opinion and support him; what she said is that, because some people are actually racist, sexist etc., they support Donald Trump, who offered them a platform to promote their anger and hate. Some journalists are just abdicating their responsibilities under the cover of “equally” reporting. But serious journalism, and the responsibilities that come with, are much more than just “reporting”. Serious journalism means defending the democratic values on which the US are built, and having the courage to expose the demagogues. This election is different that any other election in recent memory. It is not a race between candidates representing different visions based on the respect of the same democratic values. This is a race between two completely different ideologies: an authoritarian one, claiming “Only I, alone, can fix the problems”, versus a truly democratic one, based on “We, the people, stronger together”.
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The only candidate voicing a truly democratic ideology was Bernie Sanders, period. As a non-U.S. citizen, you can be excused for thinking that "stronger together" applies to anything other than both halves of Billary.
Right now there is a 70% probability I will retire next summer.
But if Trump wins it's 100% that I will retire.
I'll watch America led by this colossal ignoramus collapse into the dust from a distance.
Thank goodness I married a foreign citizen so that I can legally reside far away and that I learned to speak, read and write several languages.
But if Trump wins it's 100% that I will retire.
I'll watch America led by this colossal ignoramus collapse into the dust from a distance.
Thank goodness I married a foreign citizen so that I can legally reside far away and that I learned to speak, read and write several languages.
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63% of Americans say she is an untrustworthy liar and the Times endorsed her instead of an honest man, full of integrity, respected and liked by the majority of voters. This is the news organization we are supporting, here.
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"Honest?" Seeing as Trump is a liar and a cheat it must be a definition of the word I am unfamiliar with.
The Republicans only care about the wealthy. The Democrats care about the wealthy and poor, especially poor in or from other countries. Neither party cares about the people who go to work day in and day out but are neither poor nor rich. For the first time since I've been eligible to vote, I'm sitting out this year. Of course, it doesn't matter. California is nothing more than a piggy bank for the Democratic Party and a state where working people are shaken down to support all the rinky dink states that take far more than they contribute yet get far more representation.
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Don't sit out; vote third party. The only way to get past the two parties who don't give a hoot about those of us to go to work and pay the bills in this country is to start voting for candidates that do. They may not have any chance of winning now, but if those of us who would prefer another option don't start voting for it we'll be stuck with what we have forever
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So now Americans are really been fooled by conspiracy theories and false promises. They are ready to accept a low character as President. A seat once occupied by people like G. Washington and A. Lincoln. From his character we can easily assume, corruption will start from the top position all the way down in the government. Nepotism and favoritism will thrive in American policies. And another four wasted years of recession on grabs. Is the very spirited character of US in decline when new economic superpowers are lurking in Asia ?
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Remember Maslow's hierarchy of needs? The basic needs are food, water and shelter. Clean, reliable, safe water is a good start for everyone.
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It seems quite obvious that discussing character is not the way for Hillary to go. On the other hand Trump's base consider him a successful businessman and tend to view his business practices as what you have to do to succeed. Many blue collar workers have been so damaged by globalization that they are willing to risk Trump in the hope of change even if they suspect his suitability for the office. Besides Hillary is too much in the pay of the business interests.
Too many people in this country just don't get the populist mood in this country. Just like the upper classes in Britain are still dumbfounded and outraged by the Brexit vote as if it was an aberration. This is exemplified by the cheery NY Times headlines announcing real wages rising as a sign of recovery from the recession, followed the next day by a story how this is not true for much of the country - and certainly not the working class. Even if Hillary wins, the populist mood among at least half the country will not go away and will affect the congress Hillary will have to deal with. Sadly one must agree with Colin Powell when he says Hillary is not a transformative candidate.
Too many people in this country just don't get the populist mood in this country. Just like the upper classes in Britain are still dumbfounded and outraged by the Brexit vote as if it was an aberration. This is exemplified by the cheery NY Times headlines announcing real wages rising as a sign of recovery from the recession, followed the next day by a story how this is not true for much of the country - and certainly not the working class. Even if Hillary wins, the populist mood among at least half the country will not go away and will affect the congress Hillary will have to deal with. Sadly one must agree with Colin Powell when he says Hillary is not a transformative candidate.
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Michael S:
"Many blue collar workers have been so damaged by globalization that they are willing to risk Trump in the hope of change even if they suspect his suitability for the office."
I know such blue collar workers.
You get it. The NY Times and most of its readers do not, and never will.
"Many blue collar workers have been so damaged by globalization that they are willing to risk Trump in the hope of change even if they suspect his suitability for the office."
I know such blue collar workers.
You get it. The NY Times and most of its readers do not, and never will.
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No. Many blue collar workers have been damaged by their inability to personally respond to changing employment conditions and technological advances, and instead of taking responsibility for their choices are blaming the larger forces they view as working to destroy them.
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It's right there in the DSM.
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It's right there in the DSM.
@Citizen
You tell them that when to enter the voting booth. They have been damaged by their jobs moving to Mexico and Asia so greedy bosses can cut labor costs while exhibiting zero social responsibility. If you lose your job in your 50s I'm certain you wouldn't want to be told it's your fault you should have retrained.
I've been my own boss all my life and I have empathy - shame on you. It is smug liberals who have created the foul mood in the country and created Trump
You tell them that when to enter the voting booth. They have been damaged by their jobs moving to Mexico and Asia so greedy bosses can cut labor costs while exhibiting zero social responsibility. If you lose your job in your 50s I'm certain you wouldn't want to be told it's your fault you should have retrained.
I've been my own boss all my life and I have empathy - shame on you. It is smug liberals who have created the foul mood in the country and created Trump
One sounds as though we would lose some of "Our Rights"
The Other sounds as though they would sell them to the Highest Bidder !
Either way the American Public losses with either Candidate !
It is no longer voting for the lesser evil, but which Evil you can live with !
The Other sounds as though they would sell them to the Highest Bidder !
Either way the American Public losses with either Candidate !
It is no longer voting for the lesser evil, but which Evil you can live with !
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How or why, I just don't understand they people Donald the snake is the very person everyone is upset about, A true inside who works the system for every dollar, paying of the govt to get what he wants and pays NO taxes, he nothing more then a fraud.
Hillary was wrong all his supply are deplorable how could anyone support this guy, if they did any research on him instead of get there facts from the horses mouth, they would never support this scam artist, he should be in jail with the clintons.
Hillary was wrong all his supply are deplorable how could anyone support this guy, if they did any research on him instead of get there facts from the horses mouth, they would never support this scam artist, he should be in jail with the clintons.
Reward: that corporate media will make a fortune reporting 24/7 on President Trump to millions of Americans who want only to be entertained by an uninformed, bigoted con man.
Risk: dictatorship
Risk: dictatorship
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Please, this is simple. Do not vote Trump. Tell your friends not to vote Trump. Remind others of the Recession and war under Republican leadership. Make sure to you involve yourself and others at a local level to Vote.
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How's that coronation of Clinton working out for you, DNC and Democratic "super delegates"? Looking more and more like a super stupid choice.
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Mussolini was bold. Said what was on his mind.
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Someone should tell the voters who want change to throw out the Republican Congress --- that is what has been blocking change for the last six years.
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They just blocked change we didn't want... keep the congress Rep. and when Trump gets in, maybe some policies will get passed... although he will have the same issue in the senate.
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Read "Hillbilly Elegy" and you'll understand like I did that Trump will almost assuredly win. Despite the polls. I was so wrong about his appeal until I read that book.
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With Trump, I only see a huge risk. Nothing else. He will reward you with nightmares. Think what he has done to the people believe him before. They were all scammed and hurt.
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If Bernie Sanders were the democratic nominee, he'd be running way ahead.
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I stopped watching the news at all. The media is only looking for ratings, therefore only the Trump's face is on my screen. (screech)
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact... And the fewer the facts, the stronger their opinions are...
The right to an opinion, doesn't make the opinion right. Wonder how long is it going to take for a lot of people to comprehend that...
Too much media rust the brain. Let's not be lazy and let's give our brain a good exercise looking and learning from facts! Focus people! Focus!
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact... And the fewer the facts, the stronger their opinions are...
The right to an opinion, doesn't make the opinion right. Wonder how long is it going to take for a lot of people to comprehend that...
Too much media rust the brain. Let's not be lazy and let's give our brain a good exercise looking and learning from facts! Focus people! Focus!
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I have a one hour commute from work, and as I was driving my issue with the way the Trump Problem has been phrased came together all of a sudden.
You see, I'm firmly convinced we are "all" deplorable. Yes, all of us, deplorable - but not "all the way through". There is racial, ethnic, cultural, sexual, etc resentment ingrained in the depth of our reptilian brains, lurking, waiting to be set free, by fear, or by simple social permissiveness. What makes Trump, and quite a few of his supporters, deplorable isn't that instinct as such - we all share it, it is the Achilles heel of the human race - it's that their narrative celebrates a life unbound by social strictures. Trump "tells it like it is" does not mean he speaks the truth, for he rarely does, it may even mean the opposite. It means that he allows his speech and dealings to be dominated by those reptilian brain centers, calling the efforts of civilization to bind those impulses "PC" and "artificial" and "weak". He Promise to Break the Old Order is genuine, and he may be successful, because that consensus contract that we will try to be gentle with each other is frail, and needs a lot of hope, understanding, willpower to maintain, every day.
The Serpent inside requires none of that effort. We can choose to unleash him, as other countries have done before us, and the strong will reign - until they, too are consumed and drawn into the abyss.
You see, I'm firmly convinced we are "all" deplorable. Yes, all of us, deplorable - but not "all the way through". There is racial, ethnic, cultural, sexual, etc resentment ingrained in the depth of our reptilian brains, lurking, waiting to be set free, by fear, or by simple social permissiveness. What makes Trump, and quite a few of his supporters, deplorable isn't that instinct as such - we all share it, it is the Achilles heel of the human race - it's that their narrative celebrates a life unbound by social strictures. Trump "tells it like it is" does not mean he speaks the truth, for he rarely does, it may even mean the opposite. It means that he allows his speech and dealings to be dominated by those reptilian brain centers, calling the efforts of civilization to bind those impulses "PC" and "artificial" and "weak". He Promise to Break the Old Order is genuine, and he may be successful, because that consensus contract that we will try to be gentle with each other is frail, and needs a lot of hope, understanding, willpower to maintain, every day.
The Serpent inside requires none of that effort. We can choose to unleash him, as other countries have done before us, and the strong will reign - until they, too are consumed and drawn into the abyss.
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Bold? Trump is a blowhard, a liar and a bigot. The danger to America of a Trump presidency should be obvious to any patriotic American.
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Why does a presidential candidate post his serum testosterone level? I suspect that this is just another juvenile attempt of Trump to prove what a man he is. However, assuming that his doctor ordered it for medical, rather than political, reasons it tells me that this obese older male who is on statins must have a real problem.
I am a urologist and I routinely order a serum testosterone when somebody's bone density is low or they are impotent. Makes me think that his doctor ordered it because things weren't working so well below the belt; contrary to what he said during one of the Republican debates.
I am a urologist and I routinely order a serum testosterone when somebody's bone density is low or they are impotent. Makes me think that his doctor ordered it because things weren't working so well below the belt; contrary to what he said during one of the Republican debates.
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The thought of a billionaire being the president does two sad things for me: reminds me how far away I am from being wealthy and makes me feel like now me and no one like me will ever be president. It among other things is a hobby for billionaires to preside over when they get bored with doing everyday business. The presidency is now out of reach for normal Americans.
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Do we want a normal American as president? I prefer a successful individual who knows how to run a complex organization over an average Joe who think working a 9-5 is too much work and is content living an average life
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How can anyone trust his so-called "business ability" when his Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts Company went bankrupt more than once, even though it was part of a highly profitable industry? Keep in mind that Trump did not lose money in that venture, but the public stockholders sure did!
And, if Trump was in charge of the U.S. Mint or the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, would those then also be at risk of bankruptcy?
And, if Trump was in charge of the U.S. Mint or the Bureau of Engraving and Printing, would those then also be at risk of bankruptcy?
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The implications of this poll are downright scary.
In effect, a huge swath of America is willing to make a Faustian bargain with Donald Trump -- full well knowing that everything he represents and stands for is not only reprehensible, but morally indefensible.
Clinton, in stark contrast, is merely the default option - a continuation of "business as usual".
If life isn't too insufferable, Clinton will win, but only by default. If, on the other hand, the disaffected turn out and vote for "change" - no matter how much of a loose cannon Trump has shown himself to be, it is worth the risk -- there is nothing left to lose.
It is an indictment of our political establishment that our people have been so let down by both political parties - that their hopes for a better life have been reduced to a man who has traded on graft and deceit, and a woman who is by every definition brilliant, but has yet to capture the hearts and minds of the country she hopes to lead.
America sits not a crossroads of "hope" and "change", but rather one that is marked "stagnation" that-a-way, and "who-knows-where" this-way.
In effect, a huge swath of America is willing to make a Faustian bargain with Donald Trump -- full well knowing that everything he represents and stands for is not only reprehensible, but morally indefensible.
Clinton, in stark contrast, is merely the default option - a continuation of "business as usual".
If life isn't too insufferable, Clinton will win, but only by default. If, on the other hand, the disaffected turn out and vote for "change" - no matter how much of a loose cannon Trump has shown himself to be, it is worth the risk -- there is nothing left to lose.
It is an indictment of our political establishment that our people have been so let down by both political parties - that their hopes for a better life have been reduced to a man who has traded on graft and deceit, and a woman who is by every definition brilliant, but has yet to capture the hearts and minds of the country she hopes to lead.
America sits not a crossroads of "hope" and "change", but rather one that is marked "stagnation" that-a-way, and "who-knows-where" this-way.
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There is one question with a serious problem, the one about who could bring about "real change" in Washington. Trump for sure would bring real change, but not for the better. He would create real change to disaster.
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Well, funny thing. According to those leaked-but-verified-as-genuine Colin Powell emails, Dem. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse remarked upon Hillary*s evident poor health some time ago. This seems to have been an open secret in DC.
She*s loathsome, venal and probably the most mediocre--well, neck and neck with Gore--candidate the Democrats have ever run, and both of them were the heir-in-waiting. You saw what happened the first time. And don't blame Nader for the guy who couldn't carry his own state where the Gore name had been venerable for two generations.
Trump is of course equally awful, and that's why the polls are so close. Why should the Democrats be struggling to put him away? Because they didn't have the guts to say *no* to Hillary. We who refuse to vote for her aren*t the problem here.
She*s loathsome, venal and probably the most mediocre--well, neck and neck with Gore--candidate the Democrats have ever run, and both of them were the heir-in-waiting. You saw what happened the first time. And don't blame Nader for the guy who couldn't carry his own state where the Gore name had been venerable for two generations.
Trump is of course equally awful, and that's why the polls are so close. Why should the Democrats be struggling to put him away? Because they didn't have the guts to say *no* to Hillary. We who refuse to vote for her aren*t the problem here.
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Quite right, and I blame President Obama, the DNC, and others who refused to place the Clintons where they rightfully belong: in history's trash heap. They should have been put away in 2008, never to be heard from again, save for opportunities for Bill to appear onstage and wave his little hat. Everything that Colin Powell, a 'friend' and latest hacking victim, said about Hillary was absolutely true. That Bernie Sanders was unduly cast aside in favor of such an awful, abhorrent candidate says a lot about the state of the presidential race to date. Trump or Johnson will most likely have my vote. I'm young; here's hoping we can put forth a truly concerted effort in 2020.
Matthew: It is important to remember that Trump is actually awful too. I*m still making up my mind between Johnson and none-of-the-above written in on my ballot.
I*d say we the American people have the right to a do-over of the preliminary selection process, considering how egregiously it has been tampered with and manipulated. But everyone must vote his or her true conscience and not what hysterical partisans tell us is our obligation.
I*d say we the American people have the right to a do-over of the preliminary selection process, considering how egregiously it has been tampered with and manipulated. But everyone must vote his or her true conscience and not what hysterical partisans tell us is our obligation.
Trump inhereted 100 million, so started with lots of money he will not tell voters how much he has. So his track record as an entrepeneuer is unknown. He has declared bankruptcy 4 times. He has run Trump U., a scam. He cannot stay on topic for more than 15 minutes. How can such a person be considered for any elective office in the USA?
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In my experience, living in the U.S. for 30 years, really knowing how to think (i.e. to logically reason through things) is not a quality that most people in the U.S. seem to have. People in this country buy car insurance from a computer generated gecko, hang on the every word of people who are famous for having no talent or abilities, buy things just because they're popular, and eat things that slowly kill them just because they like the way they taste. There are no standards -- not for behavior, not for education, not for one's own sense of self. It ends up resulting in unintelligent people who can't think, who can't control their behavior, and who don't even respect themselves. That's how this person can be considered for being president -- because by electing him, people end up validating their own lack of self-worth. But, the problem is that that doesn't fix the problem, it's just an act of making the problem seem more socially-acceptable.
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Trump & the economy & jobs. Trump's policies would cost 5% of GDP in 4 years and a loss of 4 million jobs, according to the Oxford Economic Forecasting firm.
Why would anyone vote for him? One supporter said he'd "break things up in DC, like a bull in a china shop."
Don't people understand that the result of a bull in a china shop is a lot of broken glass?
Why would anyone vote for him? One supporter said he'd "break things up in DC, like a bull in a china shop."
Don't people understand that the result of a bull in a china shop is a lot of broken glass?
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The media needs to find out why Trump is hiding his tax returns.
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My god, why doesn't anyone ever poll ME?
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Can we stop the false narrative that people who vote for Trump are feeling "left behind"
What they're feeling is mostly pure racism, bigotry, misogyny, and a host of other contemptuous attitudes towards anyone other than White American Males.
Sec Clinton made the comment that 1/2 of Trumps supporter are in the "basket of deplorables."
I think she got her math wrong
I think 1/3 of them are racist, bigoted etc etc and that's bad.
The other 2/3rd's put up with or tolerate them and that makes them infinitely worse in my view.
The press is doing its job with Sec Clinton.
They're a for profit business and the last thing they needed was a blowout Presidential race.
That scenario where the race is over by Labor Day would have cost them millions in revenue -
-Thus they started critiquing everything and anything Clinton.
Trump can make the most inane, insane or moronic statement and he essentially gets a free pass.
Trump may win, God Forbid if he does, but if he does it will be in large measure due to the 4th Estates need to meet corporate revenue targets.
What they're feeling is mostly pure racism, bigotry, misogyny, and a host of other contemptuous attitudes towards anyone other than White American Males.
Sec Clinton made the comment that 1/2 of Trumps supporter are in the "basket of deplorables."
I think she got her math wrong
I think 1/3 of them are racist, bigoted etc etc and that's bad.
The other 2/3rd's put up with or tolerate them and that makes them infinitely worse in my view.
The press is doing its job with Sec Clinton.
They're a for profit business and the last thing they needed was a blowout Presidential race.
That scenario where the race is over by Labor Day would have cost them millions in revenue -
-Thus they started critiquing everything and anything Clinton.
Trump can make the most inane, insane or moronic statement and he essentially gets a free pass.
Trump may win, God Forbid if he does, but if he does it will be in large measure due to the 4th Estates need to meet corporate revenue targets.
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Get out of the city and talk to some folks in rural America. You might be surprised to find that they don't hate anybody. They mostly just want to be left alone to live their lives and not told what to do. More to the point they are fed up with people like you looking down of them and their way of life, and Trump is their ultimate revenge.
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@ I want another ..
That's funny...
People like me "looking down on them and their way of life"
The job of President is not to be the "Hater in Chief"
it is to lead America - All of it
I don't particularly have a point of view on anyones "way of life" what I have is utter contempt for a Silver Spoon Con Artist who appeals to the darkest fears of those Americans who whether through lack of education or lack of a proper upbringing or both have hate in their hearts for their fellow Americans because of the color of their skin or the name of their Religion or the country of their origin or their sexual orientation or their gender.
We need a President who understands that the true power of America is in the beauty of its diversity.
That's funny...
People like me "looking down on them and their way of life"
The job of President is not to be the "Hater in Chief"
it is to lead America - All of it
I don't particularly have a point of view on anyones "way of life" what I have is utter contempt for a Silver Spoon Con Artist who appeals to the darkest fears of those Americans who whether through lack of education or lack of a proper upbringing or both have hate in their hearts for their fellow Americans because of the color of their skin or the name of their Religion or the country of their origin or their sexual orientation or their gender.
We need a President who understands that the true power of America is in the beauty of its diversity.
It's exciting that change is in the air! The secrecy and deceit will soon be washed away! When the politically correct elites have tried to convince us that Islam has nothing to do with jihadists killers! I will change my mind when HRC convinces me that chickens have nothing to do with eggs!
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Now this is interesting:
“Hillary Clinton’s campaign is stealing from her poorest supporters by purposefully and repeatedly overcharging them after they make what’s supposed to be a one-time small donation through her official campaign website, multiple sources tell the Observer.
The source claims that the Clinton campaign has been pulling this stunt since Spring of this year. The Hillary for America campaign will overcharge small donors by repeatedly charging small amounts such as $20 to the bankcards of donors who made a one-time donation.”
By OBSERVER- Liz Crokin • 09/15/16
“Hillary Clinton’s campaign is stealing from her poorest supporters by purposefully and repeatedly overcharging them after they make what’s supposed to be a one-time small donation through her official campaign website, multiple sources tell the Observer.
The source claims that the Clinton campaign has been pulling this stunt since Spring of this year. The Hillary for America campaign will overcharge small donors by repeatedly charging small amounts such as $20 to the bankcards of donors who made a one-time donation.”
By OBSERVER- Liz Crokin • 09/15/16
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We have the two choices from the two major parties.
One is a lying, corrupt, self serving political failure who tenure as SOS was nothing less than a catastrophe and who's poor decisions resulted in a refugee crisis, death of innocent folks, death of Americans and has further screwed up the already screwed up ME.
The other is the loudmouth bully who everyone assumes will be bad. The corrupt failure or the loudmouth. Which fool do you support?
One is a lying, corrupt, self serving political failure who tenure as SOS was nothing less than a catastrophe and who's poor decisions resulted in a refugee crisis, death of innocent folks, death of Americans and has further screwed up the already screwed up ME.
The other is the loudmouth bully who everyone assumes will be bad. The corrupt failure or the loudmouth. Which fool do you support?
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Thank you, New York Times and CBS News, for aiding and abetting this horrific situation. I guess none of your reporters are familiar with the rise of a certain European dictator in the 1930s. Obviously, advertising is more important to you than the survival of our nation and perhaps even the rest of the world. You should be so proud of yourselves,
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Did you forget we live in a democracy where people are allowed to vote for their leaders? Just because you don't want someone to win does not make him a dictator
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Just in case, I've ordered a "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Hillary" bumper sticker.
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I just glanced at this article because I've given up reading NYT articles about Trump (who I don't particularly like). The articles I used to read were filled with bias, innuendo, and distortions. There's plenty to criticize about Trump. All that has to be done is present the facts. But all too often the NYT has engaged in front page editorials and unfair attacks disguised as news. On the other hand, Hillary, another very flawed candidate, is lightly criticized, if at all. I know people who are voting for Hillary, but laugh at the unfair press treatment of Trump. And the NYT is at the head of the pack.
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Donald Trump Jr. delivered today a serious insult to the intelligence of the American people: We don’t have the brains to exam his father’s tax returns! Until now the excuse was that Trump was unable to release his tax returns because he is under audit by IRS. Now we learn through his son that the tax returns ar not delivered because we are all ignorant when it comes to taxes!
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Obamacare was 2700 pages and nobody understood it.
Trump tax return is 12,000 pages.
Most people do not even understand their two page tax return.
Trump tax return is 12,000 pages.
Most people do not even understand their two page tax return.
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Voters think that Trump is transformative. A more accurate assessment would be that he is destabilizing. There's a difference. He has not thought deeply enough to have a conception of how to reach the goal of improving the prospects of the working class. Yet they support him anyway, just because he has focused on them. While appearing to focus on them however he is exclusively out to improve his electoral prospects. That's what the working class supporting him does not understand. He does not really care about them and he is too superficial to know how to help them.
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This country needs a reboot. Trump is it.
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This quote is from the article "Voters' View of a Donald Trump Presidency: 'That perception deeply worries some Clinton campaign advisers, who want the race to hinge on Mr. Trump’s character rather than voters’ desire to upend the status quo.'
That sentence defines why Hillary Rodham Clinton will not win the presidency. She, and her advisers, are running in the wrong race. They have no vision, unless you count their West Wing fantasies. She sewed the race up so tightly, it'll be her political burial shroud. She forgot the whole "vision thing".
That sentence defines why Hillary Rodham Clinton will not win the presidency. She, and her advisers, are running in the wrong race. They have no vision, unless you count their West Wing fantasies. She sewed the race up so tightly, it'll be her political burial shroud. She forgot the whole "vision thing".
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Trump's finger on the nuclear button? no thank you!
He's happy to blow people out of the water over a hand gesture today
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shoot-iranian-ships-2016-9
Let's make sure he never is able to initiate nuclear weapons.
He's happy to blow people out of the water over a hand gesture today
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-shoot-iranian-ships-2016-9
Let's make sure he never is able to initiate nuclear weapons.
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Trump's "good" week:
- Caught red-handed making an illegal payment that was probably a bribe
- Leaked information from a top secret intelligence briefing
- Invited to a church and proceeded to give his stump speech from the pulpit. Then he called the pastor a nervous mess
- Refused to release his tax returns for the 75th week in a row
- Caught red-handed making an illegal payment that was probably a bribe
- Leaked information from a top secret intelligence briefing
- Invited to a church and proceeded to give his stump speech from the pulpit. Then he called the pastor a nervous mess
- Refused to release his tax returns for the 75th week in a row
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One must always look at what a person DOES, not what they say.
With that in mind, how could anyone possibly think Trump would be better for jobs and the economy?
He spent his life bilking the contractors who worked for him and ripping off the US government by not paying taxes.
With that in mind, how could anyone possibly think Trump would be better for jobs and the economy?
He spent his life bilking the contractors who worked for him and ripping off the US government by not paying taxes.
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I am appalled and ashamed by the level of ignorance that Americans are exhibiting. Are hatred and bigotry the new normal?
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Trump is not hatred. Look at Hillary's past.
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Trump representing big risks? Of course. But bold? about what, exactly, his pathological lying perhaps? There is no substance behind his loud-mouth incoherence and, thus far, false statements delivered with such aplomb. Trump is a master in deceit, and its emotional delivery to uneducated white folks being fed fear and hate and division. A fraud.
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Trump's attempt to behave himself for the next six weeks is essentially the plot of Easy Money.
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People who want Trump to "shake things up," should be be prepared to have a country like some of the dysfunctional countries in Asia, Middle East, Africa, and South America.
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You mean, like Iraq and Libya?
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The wars Trump said he was for before he lied about it ?
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This is my LAST opinion submitted on the subject otherwise known as the GOP candidate for President of the United States. OK then...."big risks"? Now I have the definitive definition of UNDERSTATEMENT. "Rewards"? That perplexes me. Rewards FOR WHOM? David Duke and his followers? Xenophobic racists? People who are so stupid that they relate to the GOP candidate because his gibberish is meant to ONLY be taken seriously by the seriously stupid who, Dubya notwithstanding, have NEVER had a voice as representative of the "stupid brigade" as this year's GOP nominee....do THEY see "rewards"? One thing I know is that the "classic" New York Times reader (and the vast majority of native New Yorkers like myself) find assertions like "big risks" and "rewards" as utterly meaningless pandering in the desire to keep this story alive. YES he's running for President but WE know that he never stood for anything decent and in fact represents the absolute NADIR of not only a candidate but the very essence of what a DECENT and MORAL American SHOULD be, at least as the best of the Founding Fathers would have hoped this country might progress over the years. WORSE THAN GEORGE WALLACE. WORSE THAN STROM THURMOND. OK, NOT worse than Ted Cruz but this man is the clear runner-up to worst ever. NOTE TO TIMES STAFF: you're not writing The Moblie Alabama Times.
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Comments like this are exactly why people are voting for Trump. Who are you to call people idiots because they support a candidate you do not view favorably? Maybe they think that under Hillary it will be business as usual in DC. Or they think that Hillary is a liar and a criminal (which she might be). Or they think that Trump, like every successful candidate of all time, is saying what he knows he has to say to win. But according to you everyone who doesn't support Hillary is an idiot.
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Calling people idiots isn't going to make them see your way. This is what happens when elitist democrats write off the rest of the nation as idiots. People will not stand for being marginalized for long. Instead of actually finding out why people support Trump those genius east coast liberals de died that they are all stupid. That is the reason Hillary will lose this election. Yes, some of Trump's supporters are racist. So is the black lives matter movement that supports Hillary.
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What possible rewards are there when it comes to a Trump presidency? For rich people without a conscience, I see the rewards. For everyone else? Negative upon negative upon negative. Unless, of course, you value white supremacy above everything else.
Voting Trump is "bold" the way driving off a cliff is "bold."
Voting Trump is "bold" the way driving off a cliff is "bold."
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This entered my mailbox with the following 50 point headline:
BREAKING NEWS
"Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are virtually tied in the presidential race, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News polls"
WHAT KIND OF RABID HEADLINE IS THIS?
I never would have believed the NYT would stoop to such tactics. I follow Nate Silver's Presidential polling because he was absolutely right on during the last election, almost to the vote. Now, today he is showing Clinton at 60.3 and Frump at 39.7. Does anyone see this figure as "virtually tied?
BREAKING NEWS
"Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are virtually tied in the presidential race, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News polls"
WHAT KIND OF RABID HEADLINE IS THIS?
I never would have believed the NYT would stoop to such tactics. I follow Nate Silver's Presidential polling because he was absolutely right on during the last election, almost to the vote. Now, today he is showing Clinton at 60.3 and Frump at 39.7. Does anyone see this figure as "virtually tied?
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Did you not see the part where they are tied in polls?
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Nate Silver's percentages refer to each candidate's odds of winning, not the actual popular vote.
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@Dan Whose polls? The one I named is the most accurate, and has been since at least 2008. Nate Silver's 538. Check it out.
Looking at the results of the Florida Congressional Primary, and looking ahead to the General Election on Nov. 8th: WARNING!!
If the Democratic Party does not start backing YOUNG PROGRESSIVE candidates, the party is going to be history. Nationwide, more than 70% of Democratic-voters under age 50 favored #BernieSanders who was badly, badly treated by establishment insiders, who really should think twice before kicking new-voters to the wayside. More than half of Bernie Sanders' supporters are voting for Jill stein - If you want something much better than lies, misrepresentations and bloodshed committed in your name, it is necessary to keep in mind, when you vote, that there are 324 million people in the USA. If, together, you determine you must have a president of integrity and ability with programs that are fresh, feasible and full of promise, you can actually have that, but first you must have the confidence and courage to commit yourself to it.
When we stand together there is nothing we cannot accomplish, but when we are divided, the big money interests will always win.
If the Democratic Party does not start backing YOUNG PROGRESSIVE candidates, the party is going to be history. Nationwide, more than 70% of Democratic-voters under age 50 favored #BernieSanders who was badly, badly treated by establishment insiders, who really should think twice before kicking new-voters to the wayside. More than half of Bernie Sanders' supporters are voting for Jill stein - If you want something much better than lies, misrepresentations and bloodshed committed in your name, it is necessary to keep in mind, when you vote, that there are 324 million people in the USA. If, together, you determine you must have a president of integrity and ability with programs that are fresh, feasible and full of promise, you can actually have that, but first you must have the confidence and courage to commit yourself to it.
When we stand together there is nothing we cannot accomplish, but when we are divided, the big money interests will always win.
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I'll probably vote for Trump.
First of all HRC lacks veracity. Plus, I want to see what would happen with Trump as president. How much damage can he do in just 4 years with a Congress and a Judiciary looking over his shoulder? It will be interesting to watch.
First of all HRC lacks veracity. Plus, I want to see what would happen with Trump as president. How much damage can he do in just 4 years with a Congress and a Judiciary looking over his shoulder? It will be interesting to watch.
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You're voting for someone explicitly to see how much damage he can do?
I'm speechless.
I'm speechless.
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Yes, and Trump tells it like it is. As if whether Obama was born one the US: ""I'll answer that question at the right time. " The man rocks!
I agree. We still have a congress.
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The idea that Trumplethinskin has any rewards as president, except for himself and his family, is nthing more than magical thinking.
Example: Six months paid maternity leave for all women, paid for by nothing more than eliminating unemployment "waste," when almost all unemployment is NOT at the Federal level, but from the states. Even making 100% of federal unemloyment designated as "waste" would still fall way short of funding maternity leave.
And almost any other policy proposal coming from him is just as half baked.
And gee, why didn't he tell the people he pandered to in Flint that he wants to eliminate the EPA.
Are we, as a people, really that gullible and ill-informed? I fear the answer is "yes."
Example: Six months paid maternity leave for all women, paid for by nothing more than eliminating unemployment "waste," when almost all unemployment is NOT at the Federal level, but from the states. Even making 100% of federal unemloyment designated as "waste" would still fall way short of funding maternity leave.
And almost any other policy proposal coming from him is just as half baked.
And gee, why didn't he tell the people he pandered to in Flint that he wants to eliminate the EPA.
Are we, as a people, really that gullible and ill-informed? I fear the answer is "yes."
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Hillary's problem is allowing the Trump bully campaign to influence the media. all the questions about the clinton foundation. she is on the defensive, media and politicians questions that have already been answered ad nausea. Trumps foundation, and all the questions - him not contributing to it, contributors getting special favors in return, and the extreme conservative influence - the media is afraid to ask him the tough questions and cover the issue. it is absurd.
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A "scathing F.B.I. report" is mentioned in this piece.
Are you referring to Comey's report? If so, in what sense was the report "scathing?"
Are you referring to Comey's report? If so, in what sense was the report "scathing?"
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Meanwhile, the FBI sure is taking their time getting to the bottom of the DNC break in.
I guess we'll see a report on that in 2025 ...
I guess we'll see a report on that in 2025 ...
Because it said Hillary was at best incompetent and at worst a liar?
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Pretty hard to represent yourself as an agent of change, and then say you are going to make sure everything from the Obama Administration remains in effect.
Most of her "change" is positions she felt she had to go to in order to fend off Bernie Sanders. Her true dedication and commitment to those new positions is, in my mind, doubtful. She is probably lobbying hard to have TPP passed in the post election lame duck session.
All of her ads saturating televison are about how unsuitable Trump is for the job. None of that is very convincing that she should be elected. While those ads have been running, her numbers are dropping while Trump's are rising.
She may be the safe choice, but its a choice for more of the same. How the heck is she going to make initiatives to repeal or highly modify measures, particularly trade measures, passed in her husband'a administration? Answer, she isn't.
Most of her "change" is positions she felt she had to go to in order to fend off Bernie Sanders. Her true dedication and commitment to those new positions is, in my mind, doubtful. She is probably lobbying hard to have TPP passed in the post election lame duck session.
All of her ads saturating televison are about how unsuitable Trump is for the job. None of that is very convincing that she should be elected. While those ads have been running, her numbers are dropping while Trump's are rising.
She may be the safe choice, but its a choice for more of the same. How the heck is she going to make initiatives to repeal or highly modify measures, particularly trade measures, passed in her husband'a administration? Answer, she isn't.
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Every election I read the same thing, voters are looking for change. They are tired of nothing getting done by their representatives, tired of "career" politicians who are getting fat benefits for doing little. Every election they vote in the same representatives so apparently it's the other representatives who are the problem. If you want change then pay attention to state reps, House and Senate races. For President we have 2 unpopular choices. We've heard little about policy or vision. At least with Secretary Clinton we have a history to look at and some clearly stated policy ideas if we can wade through the mud. From The Donald I have heard little of clear policy ideas and his vision seems to fluctuate. He talks around any question he's asked without a direct answer with few journalists holding him to account for this. He does have a history to look at: bankruptcy, investigations into a probably fraudulent "university", and a confessed knowledge of knowing all the tricks to getting around taxes and laws. No wonder he won't release his returns, they must be frightening. As far as voters thinking he will handle the economy better, I'd like to hear how. Every politician claims they will bring manufacturing jobs back. Not gonna happen. We already know what's wrong, tell us what you will do to make it right.
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Yeah. All these people demanding change and voting for Rubio. Portman, MCCAIN ?, Ayotte, Kirk ....
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Clinton has hundreds of pages of policy plans on her website. It's ridiculous that the media isn't doing a better job of making all those policy ideas public, analyzing them, and comparing them to Trump's.
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They are confusing bold with deep insecurity disguised as bluster and confidence. He is dangerous because he's so malleable in the hands of a flatter. No person with skin as thin as Donald Trump's could ever be bold.
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The difference I see is, Clinton was jammed down our throats while Trump was jammed down the establishments throat.
Let's see... Just how bad do I want to see change? Y'know. Change I can believe in...
Let's see... Just how bad do I want to see change? Y'know. Change I can believe in...
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Yes, Donald Trump will "shake up the establishment." Let's not follow the conventional wisdom that such a development is good. It is not. Under whatever "the establishment" is, the economy has been steadily improving since the catastrophic administration of GWB.
We are buying into the GOP-Trumpian trope that the country is on the road to disaster. In fact, these are the very words used by our Charlatan-in-Chief in his campaigning. The press has picked up this narrative and run with it, making what is objectively an improving national picture into a tale of woe.
Just today, the New York Times has run two front-page pieces on how the good numbers on health coverage and the largest jump in personal income in decades isn't *really* good news at all.
It *is* good news. Embrace it! No wonder we have become a collective of dreary, angry malcontents, finding fault with everything and joy in nothing. What do we want, 4-8 years of re-treaded GOP administration marked by catastrophe on all fronts of public life, headed by an ignoramus?
That worked well, did it not?
www.endthemadnessnow.org
We are buying into the GOP-Trumpian trope that the country is on the road to disaster. In fact, these are the very words used by our Charlatan-in-Chief in his campaigning. The press has picked up this narrative and run with it, making what is objectively an improving national picture into a tale of woe.
Just today, the New York Times has run two front-page pieces on how the good numbers on health coverage and the largest jump in personal income in decades isn't *really* good news at all.
It *is* good news. Embrace it! No wonder we have become a collective of dreary, angry malcontents, finding fault with everything and joy in nothing. What do we want, 4-8 years of re-treaded GOP administration marked by catastrophe on all fronts of public life, headed by an ignoramus?
That worked well, did it not?
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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Arkansas grifters or used car salesman? Hmm let me see. Well whomever wins, it's a one term deal that is for absolutely sure.
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Yup. He will shake up the Republican establishment and the rest of Western civilization and Eastern and all ecosystems, maybe even a couple planets along with it.
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Is the NYT going to get around to comparing the policies and plans of the candidates before election day? I know its wonky and boring but it would really be much more helpful to voters than lengthy reports on polls that change daily.
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They haven't yet, and at this point, why bother requesting it? You know NYT will spin it as a fantasy for maximum Hillary Clinton advantage. Confidence in this paper's impartiality is at rock-bottom.
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Hopefully, if Trump is elected, he will be impeached and removed from office within six months to a year after his inauguration. Even the Republicans in Congress will discover that this guy lacks the chops to do the job and will quickly become a national embarrassment. On another topic, our capitalist, free market system has no loyalty to any particular country. It goes where the taxes and wages are lowest and then tries to sell back to the American consumer (on credit). This is not a system that can work in the long run. It has nothing to do with the government or presidential elections.
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One of the elephants in the room is this: for many Trump supporters who claim they want change, the change they seek is away from having an African American president. They know that electing Sec. Clinton will reinforce Obama's legacy and they reject her for that reason. Another elephant is the reality that they can't stomach the thought of a woman occupying the Oval Office. Racism and misogyny are alive and well and sometimes in the guise of "things need to change...be shaken up...be different from what they have been...we can't have the same..."
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It would be interesting to see what the extreme conservative bunch has to say about Mr. Trump's approval of birth control sale over the counter. What would it be next? Abortion performed in the supermarkets?
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Actually the GOP has been shopping that idea around for a while. If "the pill" is available over the counter then:
-Insurance doesn't have to cover it
-People morally opposed to it don't have to subsidize it.
-Those living in the 21st century have easy access to it.
The idea is definitely a win-win
-Insurance doesn't have to cover it
-People morally opposed to it don't have to subsidize it.
-Those living in the 21st century have easy access to it.
The idea is definitely a win-win
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Please remember that FBI shopped the emails around until they got what they wanted. Every agency has different rules for what secret, top secret etc
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Never underestimate the stupidity of the American public.
Although, assuming Trump doesn't blow us up or sell us to the Russians or bankrupt the country, I foresee him getting impeached within the first two years.
After all, at best he's shady, and at worst he's exactly what he claims Hillary Clinton is, you know, what he and his minions were shouting at the Republican Convention.
Then we'll be stuck with Pence. At least we won't get blown up or turned into a Russian outpost. We women won't be too happy, and anyone who's not the same religion as Pence won't be too happy, and the Supreme Court will be a right-wing bunch of religious extremists who kowtow to the wealthy, but at least we'll all be alive and maybe not too broke.
Although, assuming Trump doesn't blow us up or sell us to the Russians or bankrupt the country, I foresee him getting impeached within the first two years.
After all, at best he's shady, and at worst he's exactly what he claims Hillary Clinton is, you know, what he and his minions were shouting at the Republican Convention.
Then we'll be stuck with Pence. At least we won't get blown up or turned into a Russian outpost. We women won't be too happy, and anyone who's not the same religion as Pence won't be too happy, and the Supreme Court will be a right-wing bunch of religious extremists who kowtow to the wealthy, but at least we'll all be alive and maybe not too broke.
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If there are any Hillary stooges here, please go to the Realclearpolitics.com polls and you will see that there is no statistically significant case to make Hillary will win the elections. On the contrary, she may lose; Trump could win probably considering the "change" associated with the elections. Also, tie will give Trump the election. So, in more possibility, DNC, media, and Hillary supporters have done a great disservice to the liberals and progressives cause. I want to specially admonish NY Times and Washington Post for their unethical and unobjective reporting for the last few months in fawning to Hillary. Trump will win and you can't do anything about it.
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Except that voters tend to wake up on election day and not vote self-destructedly. We're stupid, but a shuckster is a shuckster. He's always been a snake oil salesman, and we always knew that.
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Wise up, Karthy. The electoral college vote is still HRC's to lose. Like it or not, the popular vote is not what you need to be watching.
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Hi Steve did you check the RealClearpolitics.com? The lead of Hillary is just 1% with MOE 3-4%. I don't know how can you say that she has the lead, because if you do simple confidence interval estimates and test for statistical significance, there won't be any clear win. And don't be fooled by the mainstream media projecting a wrong picture of Trump Vs Hillary electoral maps. If you can look closely, they haven't given Trump some states, rather placed it under uncertain states, because it has not so big margins, yet they have given some states to Hillary, which similar margins of 3-4% lead. If you may add it up, both the candidates have very similar possible electoral votes. Let us see what happens.
Ford will produce the smaller, low priced cars in Mexico. Who buys those smaller, low priced cars in the US? The hard working people that can’t afford any other vehicle! So, to “help” the American working class Mr. Trump will slap a 35% tariff on the cars that the people in the working class buy. Mr. Trump is the champion of the hard working Americans!
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Henry Ford always said that he paid his workers high wages so they could buy his product. Now the Ford Company makes cars in Mexico so service workers can barely afford to buy one. People work at service jobs and make low wages because there are no manufacturing jobs due to trade deals like NAFTA. Absolutely brilliant to destroy a system that worked for the majority of American citizens for some obscure ideals to help citizens of other countries.
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I am afraid the only one's that are actually gaining anything from this is Ford's bottom line and their shareholders. The average experienced auto worker in Mexico earns only $4.00/hr. and that hasn't changed in some time.
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For anyone who thinks that Trump would be better on the economy, anyone who has money in the market including 401k's and IRA's should realize that one outrageous tweet or comment by loose cannon Trump could send the markets immediately into a downward spiral. Shuffling policies and personal as Trump is wont to do in the campaign could have the same effect. Not a guy for most people who are made nervous by market volatility. Like he said in 2008, the market crash could be good for his business which ultimately will always be his main concern.
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Deflationary recession is definite. -ve yield bonds will be a common like in Japan.
Trump is running a bait and switch campaign. Offer them everything and then give them nothing. This seems to be his approach to business as well. It's a typical con man approach: good looking, confidant man offers you what you want, then, after you've given him your money (in this case your vote), he delivers nothing. Will Americans vote for a con man?
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oops I guess the a whites really want their country"back"... after Obama took the country out of the hole Bush, Cheney and company left it, they want to try another Ill prepared white guy for the job. But what the heck, Britons lost 10 billions dollars after Brexit and Britain is still there so Americans are using the same logic.
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Ryan and McConnell will not be shaken up. So, if this is a vote to shake up the establishment -- not going to happen.
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He may just do it. God help us.
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Colin Powell is right. They are both poor candidates. Really hope the other two candidates get into the debates. Need to break up the ossified two party system.
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I may quit going to church or attending coffee get togethers after, now that I have been told, I am associating with deplorable's. Hear we thought we were 47%, as identified way back when by Romney. Most have learned to keep silent of their disdain for the ruling class, better known as neo liberals.
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As the father of someone who served four tours of duties in Iraq and Afghanistan and as someone who himself defended the US interests in the under-developed world during the Cold War (although not in a military capacity but otherwise), I am nauseated to see that today Mr. Trump has delivered the worst insult to our Armed Forces and to all the brave men an women that serve. Mr. Trump today told us that he would transform our Armed Forces into a band of mercenaries! If Mr. Trump is President, he told us today, our Armed Forces will not longer defend our allies because of principle, because it is the right thing to do but because they will pay us a fee! And if they do not pay us that fee they will be left to defend themselves, if they do not pay us that fee we will walk away from them, we will abandon our allies! I wonder: If North Korea or Iran pay us that fee will Mr. Trump send out troops to defend those countries? Mr. Trump, my repugnance for you and your lack of moral principles reached new limits today!
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A vote for Trump is a vote against Social Security and Medicare.
Watch out!
Watch out!
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DJT is likely to win the Presidency of the United States because Americans seem enthralled with the idea of having a reality show clown instead of a functioning, rational, qualified President to lead them. If/when Trump wins, he will turn over the reins of the executive branch to nihilist ultra-right-wing factions. Greed is Trump's obsession. He will sell out America in a New York second. He hasn't the slightest interest in governing. His passion is for himself alone.
So much for our experiment in democracy. Citizens just stopped caring, I guess. History tells us that all empires end.
Trump is our Nero.
So much for our experiment in democracy. Citizens just stopped caring, I guess. History tells us that all empires end.
Trump is our Nero.
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There is no reason to elect Mrs Clinton when she overwhelmingly has shown she can't be trusted. End of story.
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Well, just looked across the page, and saw Nick Kristof: When a Crackpot Runs for President. I believe that is the establishment Trump is running again, thanks (again) for reminding us, Nick.
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I could not believe the headline. You suggest that good may come from a Trump election?
This headline directly equates the "bold" upside of a Trump presidency (today is the first time the NYT has said there is one) from what it calls merely "risky." The problem with this headline is not so much it's false equivalency as the fact that it is dangerously and oddly naive and that it is in the NYT.
I grew up in a European household of Holocaust survivors. Not a day went by (including when I visited as an adult) without some discussion of the death, physical destruction and economic devastation of Europe flowing from the German federal elections on November 8, 1932.
The German voters gave a 33.7% plurality (not a majority) to the party of a charismatic figure espousing an openly racist, anti-Democratic authoritarianism characterized by violence against ethnic and religious minorities and others deemed undesirable, such as communists, and potential dissidents.
If the NYT were a German paper in September 1932 hypothetically reporting on the German election, it would have been ignorant of the mere possibility of the calamities that would follow, and it might have published this blasé, naïve headline about Hitler.
By March 1933, however, the paper would have been closed down by government action.
But this is 2016, and the Times is not ignorant. The Times could destroy in a week a clearly perceived threat to American lives and the Republic.
Why doesn't it?
This headline directly equates the "bold" upside of a Trump presidency (today is the first time the NYT has said there is one) from what it calls merely "risky." The problem with this headline is not so much it's false equivalency as the fact that it is dangerously and oddly naive and that it is in the NYT.
I grew up in a European household of Holocaust survivors. Not a day went by (including when I visited as an adult) without some discussion of the death, physical destruction and economic devastation of Europe flowing from the German federal elections on November 8, 1932.
The German voters gave a 33.7% plurality (not a majority) to the party of a charismatic figure espousing an openly racist, anti-Democratic authoritarianism characterized by violence against ethnic and religious minorities and others deemed undesirable, such as communists, and potential dissidents.
If the NYT were a German paper in September 1932 hypothetically reporting on the German election, it would have been ignorant of the mere possibility of the calamities that would follow, and it might have published this blasé, naïve headline about Hitler.
By March 1933, however, the paper would have been closed down by government action.
But this is 2016, and the Times is not ignorant. The Times could destroy in a week a clearly perceived threat to American lives and the Republic.
Why doesn't it?
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I am continually amazed at the individuals who support Trump. I am not a HRC fan. Trump is obviously a political Rasputin. He has convinced a wide swath of likely voters of his legitmacy with his 'I will make America Great Again, BELIEVE ME' theme and overarching white nationalist rhetoric.
There is so little known about him and his positions are fluid. That alone should have voters demanding transparency.
We know more about HRC than any candidate in history. Simply amazing that we do the demand the same of Trump; that flies in the face of the general distrust of politicians period. He is one of the least transparent candidates for President and his supporters hold him unaccountable to nothing?!?
If he is elected, his supporters are in for severe disappointment and I wish I could hold those supporters accountable for the outcomes of a Trump presidency. Not realistic but the fact that a large segment of my fellow Americans cannot see that he is a P T Barnum clone with a "Sucker is born every minute" understanding of how to mesmerize and entertain audiences is simply sad and devastating to see.
If Trump is elected by a mesmerized electorate seeking something different in DC, they need to fasten their seat belts for a bumpy and disappointing ride.
That which does not kill us, makes one stronger.
Hopefully Trump won't kill our already great America if elected.
I BELIEVE in Americans. We will survive a President who is a P T Barnum clone. We aren't suckers.
There is so little known about him and his positions are fluid. That alone should have voters demanding transparency.
We know more about HRC than any candidate in history. Simply amazing that we do the demand the same of Trump; that flies in the face of the general distrust of politicians period. He is one of the least transparent candidates for President and his supporters hold him unaccountable to nothing?!?
If he is elected, his supporters are in for severe disappointment and I wish I could hold those supporters accountable for the outcomes of a Trump presidency. Not realistic but the fact that a large segment of my fellow Americans cannot see that he is a P T Barnum clone with a "Sucker is born every minute" understanding of how to mesmerize and entertain audiences is simply sad and devastating to see.
If Trump is elected by a mesmerized electorate seeking something different in DC, they need to fasten their seat belts for a bumpy and disappointing ride.
That which does not kill us, makes one stronger.
Hopefully Trump won't kill our already great America if elected.
I BELIEVE in Americans. We will survive a President who is a P T Barnum clone. We aren't suckers.
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Alright, NYT, it's time to start sifting through the newest leaks and reporting on them. I don't like Trump. BUT THIS IS NOT REPORTING. The emails about the pay to play scheme and Clinton's sinus thrombosis are already up there. And Assange is saying he has proof Sanders was threatened? Even though that has yet to be substantiated, a major public figure has made that statement. And he has a history of making good on his word. Stop being mainstream corporate media and do your job of reporting and do your job to give us the best chance we have at a marginally fair election. You've been asleep on the job for far too long.
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When will Clinton's Dr. release a meaningful statement?
She say Hillary's medications include...
What about all of Hillary's medications are...
She says Hillary has allergies and hypothyroidism and no new conditions this year.
What about the complete list of Hillary's conditions follows?
She say Hillary's medications include...
What about all of Hillary's medications are...
She says Hillary has allergies and hypothyroidism and no new conditions this year.
What about the complete list of Hillary's conditions follows?
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Mrs. Clinton is the best option this country could have. To believe that she is not prepared or that she is in any way a bad choice is nonsense. Mrs Clinton has excellent credentials. Most of the things that are said about her are just arguments to undermine her while at the same time ignoring the even worst things that Trump has done or said. I understand the frustration of some about illegal immigration, but for that to merit to give this country to a madman is madness
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The biggest risk I can think of regarding a Clinton presidency is the risk that Republicans in Congress would work as systematically and vigorously against her as they have against Obama, limiting her accomplishments. For a Trump presidency, I can easily foresee huge risks that the economy will be damaged by feckless tax cuts, a reckless trade war, bloated military spending, and unpredictable policy shifts scaring Wall Street to ruin. I can foresee impetuous military adventurism and thin-skinned armed responses to foolish provocations. I can foresee nuclear brinkmanship and reckless abuse of our nation's ability to end human's habitation of the Earth. I can foresee a crony kleptocracy rivaling the one which is plundered Russia and impoverishing the Russian public for the fortunes of Putin-favored oligarchs. I can see a huge number of ways that a Trump presidency will bring huge risks to the United State's future, and I can see very little to assure me that those risks are not extremely likely, should Trump win election. That such a large percentage of the American public doesn't readily see these risks is a failure of the press to perform its duty to 'inform and educate' the public on issues of critical public importance. The media's treatment of Trump's presidential ambitions as an entertaining reality-show ratings bonanza of a campaign instead of accurately showing the huge danger he presents to the country is the shame of this election.
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H.L. Mencken's words ring truer today than when he spoke them "“No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”
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Mencken was a stupid clueless elitist. I mean the phrase: stupid clueless elitist. He never saw reality as it was.
Perhaps but he was correct on this observation -- it is reality today. Gullible and uninformed voters being swayed by Demagogue Don the Con.
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Trump is in it only to lose. And to make a big deal of it after he loses. That's his strategy, that's what he's figuring. And to make as big a deal as possible after he loses. Watch.
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Bloated military spending
Protecting our beautiful destroyers from middle finger displays
Deportation Concentration camps for 11,000,000 (discover, detain, trial, process, feed, house, cloth, transport)
No more moslems coming to town
4% (actually 8 or 9%) annual growth in GDP.
Return of the steel mills, textile mills, furniture factories (sorry Turkey Trump is bringin' it on home), leather and shoe making, buggy whips and whale oil industries.
Recovering all the unemployment fraud monies.
Maternity leave (because men like Teleprompter Trump don't do diapers) for married women
only;
Providing tax reduction windfalls for the masters of universe like himself;
and
The Great Wall of Trump!!!
Against a woman, who's testosterone number will NOT match his.
Who will repeal the 2nd amendment and take your guns.
Who will open our borders for an Oklahoma Land Rush style of terrorist invasion.
Who will sacrifice jobs and worker health for the sake of breathable air and clean drinking water.
A woman who wants a child educated in Mississippi to know as much as a child educated in Minnesota.
The choice is clear........
Protecting our beautiful destroyers from middle finger displays
Deportation Concentration camps for 11,000,000 (discover, detain, trial, process, feed, house, cloth, transport)
No more moslems coming to town
4% (actually 8 or 9%) annual growth in GDP.
Return of the steel mills, textile mills, furniture factories (sorry Turkey Trump is bringin' it on home), leather and shoe making, buggy whips and whale oil industries.
Recovering all the unemployment fraud monies.
Maternity leave (because men like Teleprompter Trump don't do diapers) for married women
only;
Providing tax reduction windfalls for the masters of universe like himself;
and
The Great Wall of Trump!!!
Against a woman, who's testosterone number will NOT match his.
Who will repeal the 2nd amendment and take your guns.
Who will open our borders for an Oklahoma Land Rush style of terrorist invasion.
Who will sacrifice jobs and worker health for the sake of breathable air and clean drinking water.
A woman who wants a child educated in Mississippi to know as much as a child educated in Minnesota.
The choice is clear........
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Just had to turn off the TV as Obama is aggressively attacking Trump over a painting he had done, possibly with funds from his charity of $20,000 -- in comparison to the fiscal crimes of Hillary & Bill, not to mention Obama's doubling our national debt in his 8 short years as President from 10 trillion to 20 trillion, how ridiculous to compare. Almost as lame as Hillary posing as a moral authority who can judge the hearts and minds of people she calls "deplorable." She of all people has no room to pass judgement on moral integrity or acceptable behavior.
Why is our President spending time actively campaigning and trying to influence the race to this extent? Is this part of his job? Hillary has been shielded from every consequence of her illegal activities, clearly by Obama. Unbelievable.
And now Hillary sounds like she's parroting Trump after having "reflected" on things during her bed rest with pneumonia. Suddenly she is focused on families, children, paternity leave, the middle class... echoes of the issues Trump has been bringing up for weeks.
And no one seems to ask where Bill will be if Hillary gets elected. Who will be first man of the White House?? And if it's a house divided with the first couple in a sham of a marriage, how can she focus on running the country??
Why is our President spending time actively campaigning and trying to influence the race to this extent? Is this part of his job? Hillary has been shielded from every consequence of her illegal activities, clearly by Obama. Unbelievable.
And now Hillary sounds like she's parroting Trump after having "reflected" on things during her bed rest with pneumonia. Suddenly she is focused on families, children, paternity leave, the middle class... echoes of the issues Trump has been bringing up for weeks.
And no one seems to ask where Bill will be if Hillary gets elected. Who will be first man of the White House?? And if it's a house divided with the first couple in a sham of a marriage, how can she focus on running the country??
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"not to mention Obama's doubling our national debt in his 8 short years as President from 10 trillion to 20 trillion, how ridiculous to compare."....Figures don't lie, but liars figure. It is a fact that when Obama took office the budget deficit he inherited was $1350 billion dollars. Last year the budget deficit was about $500 billion dollars. No other President in history has reduced the budget deficit by as much as $800 billion dollars. And what is it Colin Powell said about Trump - a disgrace to the Nation and an International pariah; and while he had some criticism for Clinton he also said he respected her. But maybe Powell was also born in Kenya.
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Does the american electorate fathom what’s at stake with Trump as President and McConnell and Ryan in charge of Congress? White supremacists empowered to burn Mosques and black churches. Voting rights shredded across the land. The Supreme Court packed with right wing ideologues. The GOP assault on women’s rights shoved into high gear. The fossil fuel industry unchained. With the planet at a tipping point on global warming, the US withdrawing from the Paris accord. The EPA gutted. The ACA repealed. A ground war begun with Iran over some perceived insult. Taxes dramatically lowered on corporations and the super rich and with huge boosts in military spending, deficits going through the roof. In short, a disaster of unmitigated proportions from which the country and the world might never recover. All this brought about by a profit driven, false equivalency, news as entertainment media who deserted the country in our hour of greatest need.
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One of the really dumb/chilling sentiments that occasionally gets voiced in comments from potential Trump voters who realizes that he is a dangerous egotist but rationalizes their choice by writing "If he really is a psychotic madman, we have checks and balances in government to reign him in." First why would anyone would want to take that chance, and second we should remember how the Conservative politicians in Germany thought they could control the failed Austrian art student once they put him in power.
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My father taught me long ago that we get the government we deserve. Certainly many of us do not deserve Trump as president, but with so many people willing to believe the vicious voodoo and mendacity Trump spews, we may all have to pay the price of the desperately gullible and live in a reality TV dystopia after next January.
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Perhaps America deserves Trump. After all, a majority on the Supreme Court allowed campaign finance to turn into a joke. And perhaps Ms. Clinton, who is never particularly inspiring and often much too cagey to be wholly likable, helped to create this monster by freezing out other likely Democratic contenders. But let's say the disaffected delusionists who think somehow life will be better for them if they vote for the super-rich old white guy who indulges his vulgar tastes and follows his very mental whim actually put this sham Republican in the White House. Then we all get to watch him make a fool of himself, as he always does, and perhaps there's a chance that Trump's buffoonery and self-importance jolts the country toward a wholesale rejection of his type of personality. Maybe democracy doesn't always work. But maybe it helps us lance this festering boil.
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I dare the NYT to lead with the following articles -
An in depth prediction of the long term effect of a Trump presidency on the rights and liberties afforded Americans by way of Supreme Court decisions.
A detailed analysis of benefit derived by the United States in having military strength strategically placed globally in cooperation with our allies.
A side by side comparison of the policy details provided by each candidate along with the feasibility of these details.
In depth explanation of the process by which international treaties and pacts are negotiated, created and participated in.
A thorough narrative of Mrs. Clinton's experience and qualifications without once mentioning she is a woman and married to a man named Bill.
Factual neutral explanations of why the coal industry is no longer viable, the immense positive impact of Latino immigrants on the American economy and the impact of technology on changing the landscape of manufacturing in this country and what education and training would be necessary to catch to the rest of the world.
A complete list of racist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, homicidal and vitriolic statements Trump has made proudly during this campaign. Keith Olberman recently compiled 176 facts clearly presented in written and video form.
Present these articles regardless of the advertising interest they will generate.
Come on NYT, stop being reality TV!
An in depth prediction of the long term effect of a Trump presidency on the rights and liberties afforded Americans by way of Supreme Court decisions.
A detailed analysis of benefit derived by the United States in having military strength strategically placed globally in cooperation with our allies.
A side by side comparison of the policy details provided by each candidate along with the feasibility of these details.
In depth explanation of the process by which international treaties and pacts are negotiated, created and participated in.
A thorough narrative of Mrs. Clinton's experience and qualifications without once mentioning she is a woman and married to a man named Bill.
Factual neutral explanations of why the coal industry is no longer viable, the immense positive impact of Latino immigrants on the American economy and the impact of technology on changing the landscape of manufacturing in this country and what education and training would be necessary to catch to the rest of the world.
A complete list of racist, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, homicidal and vitriolic statements Trump has made proudly during this campaign. Keith Olberman recently compiled 176 facts clearly presented in written and video form.
Present these articles regardless of the advertising interest they will generate.
Come on NYT, stop being reality TV!
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The trend is decidedly headed in Trump's favor. He will demolish her in the debates. She'll also get sick again prior to the election. Then there is the upcoming Wikileaks release. Julian is supposed to have some pretty juicy stuff ready to go. Who knows what other scandals will emerge.
Keep in mind the total circulation of the Times is only about 1.4 million, cross words subscriptions and all. Whereas the membership of the NRA for example is more than three times that size. So don't be thinking that if everyone who reads this biased rag votes, that it's going to matter. I'm going to host a 13 hours of Benghazi movie party at my house and then march down to vote.
Keep in mind the total circulation of the Times is only about 1.4 million, cross words subscriptions and all. Whereas the membership of the NRA for example is more than three times that size. So don't be thinking that if everyone who reads this biased rag votes, that it's going to matter. I'm going to host a 13 hours of Benghazi movie party at my house and then march down to vote.
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A tight race? Americans are more ignorant and pathetic than the rest of the world assumes. How does an actual human being with a brain and a heart vote for Trump?
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Maybe they were unconscious most of the last year.
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sure, hilary's 'safer' if we want to be ignored and stabbed in the back.......
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If one reads this and other articles carefully, Mr Trump leads among all white men regardless of their educational level. He also leads among married women. Mrs Clinton is dependent on spinsters and non-whites to tip the scales in her favour. She should not be so condescending.
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As a white, married, college educated woman with two post graduate degrees (who also happens to support Hillary Clinton) I find the word "spinster" terribly offensive, never mind sexist. I also find it offensive that "support of non-whites" is somehow "less then"? Really.
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My grandparents emigrated from Sweden. If they were still alive they would be ashamed of your statements, but would politely explain their knowledge having been true Americans. They would explain that unmarried American women are just that, unmarried and this makes them no less desirable as voters than their married sisters. Actually, they can be quite powerful. Additionally, the 's' word you use is quite out of style, rude and belongs in Austen novels.
They would also tell you kindly, but firmly that minorities are a large representation of our country and not a second, less desirable portion of our people. As with the Irish and Italians before and Latinos, Asians, Africans and Middle Easterners now, minorities have built America. Very value voters.
They would also tell you kindly, but firmly that minorities are a large representation of our country and not a second, less desirable portion of our people. As with the Irish and Italians before and Latinos, Asians, Africans and Middle Easterners now, minorities have built America. Very value voters.
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It's beginning to feel like a "Dewey Defeats Truman" moment may be at hand, only this time the headline just might be correct.
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This isn't 70's and 80's Manhattan Real estate, where no matter what risk you take, skyrocketing prices make it tough to lose. This is the presidency. The risks to reckless behavior can have a real human cost, and can cause problems for generations. The rewards? Politicians always promise rewards. Really, what do people think they could be?
Trump's a guy you gotta watch. Doesn't have credit with a lot of banks. Took his investors through bankruptcies, once bought a building and intentionally sabotaged it to try to get people to move out. Literally might have had a fraud university. Sold 600 million in junk bonds after promising not to sell junk bonds. Wanted to be a corporate raider in the 80's. Spends charity money in suspicious ways. Seriously, people who haven't watched Trump have lost out in some very big ways. It's a matter of record.
If you're watching right now, what are you seeing. INCREDIBLE DISHONESTY FROM TRUMP on the campaign trail. This look promising to you? This sound like a guy to put your trust in? This guy is gonna bring you rewards?
Trump's a guy you gotta watch. Doesn't have credit with a lot of banks. Took his investors through bankruptcies, once bought a building and intentionally sabotaged it to try to get people to move out. Literally might have had a fraud university. Sold 600 million in junk bonds after promising not to sell junk bonds. Wanted to be a corporate raider in the 80's. Spends charity money in suspicious ways. Seriously, people who haven't watched Trump have lost out in some very big ways. It's a matter of record.
If you're watching right now, what are you seeing. INCREDIBLE DISHONESTY FROM TRUMP on the campaign trail. This look promising to you? This sound like a guy to put your trust in? This guy is gonna bring you rewards?
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Voters’ View of a HilLIARy Clinton Presidency: Huge Risks and Scarce Rewards for anyone who EARNS their living. Yes, you can choose to continue to live in the quagmire of liberal political corruption, dishonesty, and incompetence.
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How pathetic it is that Democrats—for how many years?—haven't been able to develop someone to represent America's interests on their behalf other than a Clinton? It reached the point of political incestuous a long time ago.
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You misspelled "Russki."
Johnson will be on the ballot in 50 states and Stein in 37. It is really stupid to pay more attention to polls that do not include them. Clinton and Trump are neck and neck. Stop being arrogant and be scared.
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Now, the election day is still far, so the business media could release the" self-poll" how many percents Hillary leads over Donald Trump, the media being in the profit making time, but when the doom day is close, they have to tell the truth. However, everyone knows Hillary is the hub scandal in the US history, even though the people believe Hillary is the serious criminal. The people have no trust Hillary, so her doctor confirms the health is doubt because she lied many times. The crowds rally support Donald Trump and Hillary that proves the bias of media.
Let's accomplish real change in Washington. Change the members of Congress!
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The slim chances of victory for Clinton in November collapsed along with her body on 9/11. Everyone, who is not blinded by damage control propaganda, knows, or at least strongly suspects that she has serious health problems, an inconvenient truth that makes her clearly unelectable. The only path for Democrats to retain the White House is for HRC to withdraw and be replaced with Bernie Sanders, who would have been the nominee anyway if democracy were not DOA at the DNC.
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The more serious collapse will be the American economy under republican leadership. This ones a no brainer.
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What big Rewards? It's all made up garbage. All those people in Appalachia and other small towns who complain about their lot in life and think Trump will offer them something are uninformed. They need to forget their ideology and either retrain, go to school, or move to where the jobs are. They sit there and complain it's all the government's fault. I find it really maddening.
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If this report is accurate, it doesn't make sense. At least it doesn't make sense above and beyond a media that's 24/7 obsessed with Trump's rantings (for ratings) and as a result has created what looks like a Trump bandwagon which those short on critical thought who mindlessly follow a perceived numerical leader (even down the rabbit hole) pile onto. And the potential results of that which would mean the undisciplined/impulsive/uninformed likes of a Donald Trump in the critical role of president, commander in chief and leader of the free world, is beyond terrifying.
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I can't believe that we are seriously considering a Trump presidency. oh my God.
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The desperation is palpable.
With every major news organization declaring Trump unfit for the presidency the citizenry continues to give him consideration. Former GOP nominees, themselves once goaded as mean spirited, level charges of racism at Trump and his support among the people grows.
Who would have envisioned an America where a presidential candidate persuades voters with a slogan of "what have you got to lose", where the line, "now cars are built in Mexico and you can't drink the water in Michigan" is poignant.
The current establishment has created the landscape over which Trump is gaining traction. The establishment has sown the winds, it shall inherit the whirlwind.
With every major news organization declaring Trump unfit for the presidency the citizenry continues to give him consideration. Former GOP nominees, themselves once goaded as mean spirited, level charges of racism at Trump and his support among the people grows.
Who would have envisioned an America where a presidential candidate persuades voters with a slogan of "what have you got to lose", where the line, "now cars are built in Mexico and you can't drink the water in Michigan" is poignant.
The current establishment has created the landscape over which Trump is gaining traction. The establishment has sown the winds, it shall inherit the whirlwind.
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Trump is not a "risky" choice. That implies a slim chance of something good happening. No, Trump would a *certain* disaster. Who are these Trump supporters (and the press) kidding?
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At a loss to understand why anyone's impressed with Trump's Trickle Down Economic plan. Giving tax breaks to the rich does nothing except make the rich richer and the deficit bigger. It's never worked in the past. So, isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
And Trump wants to borrow to rebuild our infrastructure. That'll blow up the deficit even more.
And Trump wants to borrow to rebuild our infrastructure. That'll blow up the deficit even more.
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Mr. Trump doesn't know anything about governance, democracy or the economy, except what he can squeeze out of them for himself. Apparently his foundation is a scam as is his university and probably his business practices. Our only insight into this con artist crook is investigative journalism. Unfortunately half the public doesn't care enough to demand his tax returns.
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Yeah, that's the way the Italian people looked at Mussolini.
America could fail its history test on 11/8.
America could fail its history test on 11/8.
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The press has its horse race now. You have given Don the Con $2 billion in free press. You hold Clinton to a high standard and let the con man say or do anything without more than a brief mention. Where is your reporting on the conflicts of interest Don the Con would have if he were elected? The explosive, well researched Newsweek article detailed Con's conflicts and how they threaten national security. Newsweek has done the reporting for you. Try doing some real reporting yourselves on Trump's ties to foreign politicians, governments, financiers and shady characters, and the bald faced lies put out by Trump and his surrogates. The news media has set up a false equivalency between Don the Con and Hillary Clinton. You have beat to death the stories about the illusionary conflicts of the Clinton Foundation and Hillary's ho-hum emails and even her pneumonia. The con hands a TV doctor a list of supposed test results to read. He claims he weighs 236 lbs. Have you noticed he always wears his dark suit, usually not buttoned. The man is obese. How do we know that the numbers he gave Dr. Oz are correct? We didn't get to see any Dr's report. The only report we've seen declared he would be the healthiest President ever elected. Hillary put out a real medical report from a real doctor with real test results. Con's tax returns will never be released. Jr. told us why. People would analyze them. And see no taxes paid, no charitable donations, and conflicts of interest if he were President.
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Trump - Putin 2016! YeeHah!
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When will corporate media stop giving Trump a pass about his lies? Ratings before quality reporting ? I thought prostitution was only legal in Nevada. Apparently I've been misinformed.
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Fascinatingly enough, the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek, an atheist, consigned unquestioning Clinton supporters to their own circle of hell in a recent article:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/cosmostheinlost/2016/08/17/slavoj-zizek-the...
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/cosmostheinlost/2016/08/17/slavoj-zizek-the...
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Can we really not reset this election and make it between, say, Joe Biden and Colin Powell? Two stable adults? Let history call it the placeholder election while we citizens get our act together and think about what we are doing. Is there really no possibility of the parties deciding -- these are their nominees, aren't they? -- that they will change their rules and each pick someone else. Is there a law against that? It isn't an anti-trust problem, surely. Please. Do we really have to endure this? Yes, it's our fault, no question, but aren't we all urged to seek redemption? I beg, I pray: give is another chance!
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If he wins it will be all at the feet of the press.. I agree with Samantha B! don't miss her take on this!
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If you think Trump will radically change Washington, here's a reality check. We have three branches of government and regardless of whether he wins, inane, dangerous, zenophobic ideas that he promotes will get little or no traction in this town.
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It is amazing that Americans would vote for a disaster like Trump. He is another version of George Bush. Historically, Republicans always destroy the economy. It's really scarey.
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I'm a moderate Republican--yes, we still exist but I fear we're going the way of the dodo bird--disgusted by Trump a tenth of a degree more than Clinton. To me, both candidates, taken together, are the worst in America's long history.
But as I contemplate actually voting for Clinton, mainly because of foreign policy concerns, I'm struck but the lack of magnanimity from the Left towards Republicans like myself who think that Trump is a charlatan. On mostly-leftist threads like these in the New York Times, I only see vituperative, inane rants against anyone like myself not in lockstep with the Left's doctrinaire stances.
I see nothing from the Left about moving forward together as a nation, nor do I see the Left willing to be flexible on some of our nation's most contentious issues. Yes, the Right is also guilty of these charges, but in the case of moderate Republicans considering voting for Clinton, it's both her and the Left's burden to bear if they want crossover votes.
On the very reasonable concern about tens of millions of illegal economic migrants coming into the country from Mexico and Central America, moderates like myself are all to frequently labeled as racists. On having concerns about Muslim migrants, most of whom are misogynistic, homophobic and politically anti-Western according to all international surveys, people like me are knee-jerkingly labeled as xenophobes. If the Democrats want to win in November, they need to moderate their vitriolic stances.
But as I contemplate actually voting for Clinton, mainly because of foreign policy concerns, I'm struck but the lack of magnanimity from the Left towards Republicans like myself who think that Trump is a charlatan. On mostly-leftist threads like these in the New York Times, I only see vituperative, inane rants against anyone like myself not in lockstep with the Left's doctrinaire stances.
I see nothing from the Left about moving forward together as a nation, nor do I see the Left willing to be flexible on some of our nation's most contentious issues. Yes, the Right is also guilty of these charges, but in the case of moderate Republicans considering voting for Clinton, it's both her and the Left's burden to bear if they want crossover votes.
On the very reasonable concern about tens of millions of illegal economic migrants coming into the country from Mexico and Central America, moderates like myself are all to frequently labeled as racists. On having concerns about Muslim migrants, most of whom are misogynistic, homophobic and politically anti-Western according to all international surveys, people like me are knee-jerkingly labeled as xenophobes. If the Democrats want to win in November, they need to moderate their vitriolic stances.
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Look at some of the comments Trump has made about women, then explain to me how you are concerned about hypothetical misogynist Muslims.
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Trump may be a misogynist, but he's already an American citizen. But are you suggesting that you're in favor of letting in tens of thousands of more homophobic misogynists who aren't American citizens as of now into the country?
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Wow, amazing. The country literally goes to hell under a Republican administration ( thank you W.). Obama brings us all back to a pretty stable decent level...yes, the middle class could be doing better. Things were quite good under Bill Clinton. Yet, people want to elect a total wacko (not to mention racist, sexist, unqualified) like Trump.
Isn't that a bit like burning down the house to kill a raccoon?
Isn't that a bit like burning down the house to kill a raccoon?
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So here's a headline from tonight's NY Times: "Clinton Returns to the Campaign Trail Amid Health Concerns".
Want to know why the race is tightening? The answer is in that completely disengenuous, totally irresponsible and unfair headline.
Want to know why the race is tightening? The answer is in that completely disengenuous, totally irresponsible and unfair headline.
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What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to go through to convince yourself your willing to vote for a President that will be kept in check all the time? Essentially voting for an ineffective President?
Basket of deplorables? More like basket cases.
Basket of deplorables? More like basket cases.
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Would the NY Times PLEASE stop referring to Hillary Clinton as unpopular and untrustworthy! This election offers no one else to vote for, and the NY Times and all other media will be partly responsible if somehow the OTHER is elected. This is serious business, not just an effort to sell news.
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Seriously. It's like a brainwashing campaign.
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The last polling on this shows Trump is considered far less trustworthy. The press is trying to convince America of something they just do not believe.
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The last polling on this shows Trump is considered far less trustworthy. The press is trying to convince America of something they just do not believe.
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But she IS unpopular and untrustworthy. What is the NYT supposed to say?
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You should not be surprised that Trump is pulling close. I am on the fence on who I will vote for but I will say that all the insulting comments about Trump voters makes me (and a lot of other people) inclined to vote for him.
Hillary has had numerous chances to put Trump away but she somehow always flubs it.
And the fact that the race is so close is an indictment of Hilary and her ability to be POTUS. It's not about Trump.
Hillary has had numerous chances to put Trump away but she somehow always flubs it.
And the fact that the race is so close is an indictment of Hilary and her ability to be POTUS. It's not about Trump.
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" I am on the fence on who I will vote for but I will say that all the insulting comments about Trump voters makes me (and a lot of other people) inclined to vote for him. "....Ok here it is. There are so many stupid things Trump has said and done that anyone who would even consider voting for him has either not paid attention or is a totally ignorant. Hey, I am an independent and I am being honest - I don't won't to have to live in a country where so many of my fellow countrymen are stupid. This isn't like an argument between Republicans and Democrats or Conservatives and Liberals. This is about stupid. Did you not read what Colin Powell, a Republican said about Trump? A disgrace to the nation an international pariah! What more do you need?
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Hillary Clinton is like a Methodist hymn, traditional if somewhat plodding and uninspiring. Trump is like a holy roller writhing on the floor at a tent revival. Terrifying.
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Without the mainstream media as cheerleaders it would be like Hillary Clinton doesnt exist. No rallies, no press conferences and no TV shows compared to Trump. But really who would want this tired old yenta leading the worlds most powerful country. She cant even negotiate anything. All she wants is more war in the ME(it wa her state department that started the present chaos) and war with Putin. At least Trump is willing to negotiate with people and he is an expert in doing so. People have to stand back and take an objective look at this woman. Its like she is working for some other master that has little to do with the average American citizen.
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You sound just like Lyin Ted ...
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Actually, it was the cheney/bush administration that started the present chaos in the middle east.
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These poles are merely a reflection of the press has deciding to take profits over the public good. The longer they keep alive this Frankenstien monster in Trump the greater the risk to our future. Please prioritize, investigate and challenge the continuous lies spewing forth. The candidate in question is not fair and balanced in so many ways - you must pursue the innaccuracies relentlessly. The future of what remains of our true democracy depends on the fourth estate. Clinton is not credible enough to do it on her own. Don't keep it tight to the end or the entity you work for will be subject to America's Putin and he will come for you.
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If Trump wins, will this newspaper and its obtuse left readership take any blame? No, of course not.
Heaven forfend that the uber-PC NYT and commentators here ever imagine that their love-fest for HRC - an utterly abysmal choice - and disdain for the pro-growth, private-enterprise, non-socialist center might have pushed so many fellow Americans into the arms of the charlatan.
If you're unhappy with Trump the next 4 - 8 years, look in the mirror.
Heaven forfend that the uber-PC NYT and commentators here ever imagine that their love-fest for HRC - an utterly abysmal choice - and disdain for the pro-growth, private-enterprise, non-socialist center might have pushed so many fellow Americans into the arms of the charlatan.
If you're unhappy with Trump the next 4 - 8 years, look in the mirror.
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Donald J. Trump will not benefit the US citizens, but will trickle down on every resident. Trump will benefit on himself.
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Again, the media is letting Donald get away with lying. Where is the article that compares what Trump said about what happened in the Flint, Michigan church vs what really happened? Two completely different stories of what reporters and the church goers saw and what Donald said happened. Unbelievable what the media lets him say without any push back.
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They need trump to sell papers. A responsible press would have called this blowhard out a year ago.
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Why are you using a national poll rather than state by state polls? Very misleading.
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Does HC not have an ability to perceive the impact of her words.
She has gone after Trump for besmearing a war hero – “McCain”, a news reporter with a disability, the father of an American Muslim soldier who was killed, now a black preacher at a black church, and for calling many illegal immigrants criminals and rapists.
Forget for a moment that McCain was a showman who had lost two planes before going to Nam and probably shouldn’t have been allowed to continue to fly BEFORE being shot down, that the reporter took back his report of celebrating by Arabs following 911 attack, which I know were reported cause I lived in NY at the time and remember it. Forget that the father of the Muslim soldier spends much of his time as a lawyer trying to get Muslims into this country and attacked Trump with a fury, forget that the preacher at the black church clearly tried to ambush Trump or that Hispanics disproportionately commit crimes and get on welfare .
The question is how is her calling the supporters of Trump ’deplorables’ in any way acceptable by her standard. The fact is that Trump leads in the heartland of America, the place where honor and duty and yes religion are still more valued then the call for entitlements and special rights.
I will be voting for her but I can’t stand her. I just won’t vote Republican. But others will.
She has gone after Trump for besmearing a war hero – “McCain”, a news reporter with a disability, the father of an American Muslim soldier who was killed, now a black preacher at a black church, and for calling many illegal immigrants criminals and rapists.
Forget for a moment that McCain was a showman who had lost two planes before going to Nam and probably shouldn’t have been allowed to continue to fly BEFORE being shot down, that the reporter took back his report of celebrating by Arabs following 911 attack, which I know were reported cause I lived in NY at the time and remember it. Forget that the father of the Muslim soldier spends much of his time as a lawyer trying to get Muslims into this country and attacked Trump with a fury, forget that the preacher at the black church clearly tried to ambush Trump or that Hispanics disproportionately commit crimes and get on welfare .
The question is how is her calling the supporters of Trump ’deplorables’ in any way acceptable by her standard. The fact is that Trump leads in the heartland of America, the place where honor and duty and yes religion are still more valued then the call for entitlements and special rights.
I will be voting for her but I can’t stand her. I just won’t vote Republican. But others will.
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Horrible choices we have this year. I wonder why we can't do better. It's as if anybody reasonable gets winnowed out before they make it to the top.
We can't do better because the whole system has been bought.
It is all about money and power and the more the better.
If you do not have the money you do not get to play in the game.
It is this corruption of Democracy that is its demise.
Let's be hopeful that from the ashes we can find a way to rebuild for the good of all.
It is all about money and power and the more the better.
If you do not have the money you do not get to play in the game.
It is this corruption of Democracy that is its demise.
Let's be hopeful that from the ashes we can find a way to rebuild for the good of all.
I never pay attention to all these polls for these reasons:
1. I've NEVER been asked to participate in a poll of any kind & I've been a registered voter since 1968.
2. Nobody I know has ever been asked to participate in a poll & they are all registered voters...& nobody they know has been asked to participate either.
Who the heck are the people being asked anyway? On the other hand, who cares?
1. I've NEVER been asked to participate in a poll of any kind & I've been a registered voter since 1968.
2. Nobody I know has ever been asked to participate in a poll & they are all registered voters...& nobody they know has been asked to participate either.
Who the heck are the people being asked anyway? On the other hand, who cares?
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Well, then. That settles that.
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There's 'change' and then there is 'change'. While cutting off my arm might be change it would not be positive. American voters need to carefully consider what they are really getting with both candidates. I realize there are some that feel they have nothing to lose, but we said that before about GW Bush and compared to Trump he looks like Lincoln...
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What I wonder is where the intelligent thinking American went? Why anyone would vote for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump is beyond me. That is what the media should be asking but there are a big part of the problem. Something happened when John F. Kennedy sent advisors in Vietnam. In one way, it was not the beginning of Camelot as much as it was the media's fascination with the outward appearance and those powerful Democrats who came from money. It was during this period of time that the media wasn't up to the job. America started borrowing for all things missiles, the build up of the cold war, Vietnam, without anyone in the media even questioning why we weren't taxing for all of this on our federal income tax. If all of it had been taxed since 1960, first the media, and then the general public might of done some serious thinking. For the most part, our country has been lulled into deception by a media that was not up to the job, and a country that by voting for artificial prosperity and borrowing, the country has come apart at the seems, 20 trillion in debt, future unfunded entitlements, doing war in such a way that millions of refugees have been created, 60% of Americans overweight and obese, millions addicted to drugs, academic failure, and need we go on......
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why try to second guess trump supporters when they can tell you how they think in their own words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb62fpsyhC4
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Love your nickname. Would be a great title for a sequel, even now.
Dont forget that Hillary is charging her poor donators upto $100 when they donate.
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That's not true.
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A disaster for the country and the world, and quite possibly nuclear war.
Wise up, America!
Wise up, America!
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We have had record job growth over the last five years and wage growth last year was the highest it has been since 1968. No wonder the Republicans want to put a stop to that.
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Clinton is a poor candidate, anyone but Trump would wipe the floor up with her.
Trump is a poor candidate, anyone but Clinton would wipe the floor up with him.
Amazing situation that we find ourselves in.
I think that Clinton represents more of the same. The same corruption, back room deals, us versus them government, secretiveness and so on. I think Trump might actually change things for the better. They can't get much worse. I know who I am voting for.
Trump is a poor candidate, anyone but Clinton would wipe the floor up with him.
Amazing situation that we find ourselves in.
I think that Clinton represents more of the same. The same corruption, back room deals, us versus them government, secretiveness and so on. I think Trump might actually change things for the better. They can't get much worse. I know who I am voting for.
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Interesting that you don't think that Trump the billionaire (which I still question) is secretive ( health or tax records?), corrupt (fraudulent university?) or Us vs. Them (is that whites vs. everyone else?).
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Some people are more risk tolerant than others. I would prefer the stable and steady than a roller coaster and surprise that I haven't bargained for. Trump is a time bomb. Mitch McConnell has himself admitted, "It's pretty obvious he doesn't know much about the issues." He acts on ignorance, which is dangerous. For example, Trump promised he would shoot down any Iranian ships that harrassed US vessels, essentially starting a war with Iran. He asked the Russians to spy on computers in the United States. He admires the ways of dictators like Putin and Kim Jung Un. He has proposed disastrous economic policies. If we let him become president, the surprises including a very big explosion, would be more than this country or the world would handle.
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The race the race is only "tight" in newspapers like the NY Times that thrive on turmoil and uncertainty. If you do the Electoral College math, Clinton has the race sewn up. And she deserves to win. I can't wait to mail in my early ballot.
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Ignore the background noise. Just read the predictions at fivethirtyeight.com. Nate Silver has a very good track record at this sort of thing and he's calling the race for Hillary (60.6% chance of winning to Trump's 39.4%), based on thousands of simulations derived from a variety of polls and historical voting trends.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast
Plus, we haven't even had a single debate yet. Things can change in a hurry.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast
Plus, we haven't even had a single debate yet. Things can change in a hurry.
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I'm a bit dismayed by the hoopla surrounding Clinton's bad "pneumonia" optics. A lot of comments chide Sec. Clinton for not talking about her illness. I'm only 33 and was wiped out for a month last winter with pneumonia (along with four fellow teachers in my high school). I literally could not walk and was bed ridden for much of that time. The last thing I wanted to do was appear in the public sphere and let people know just how ill I was. I understand the presidential race is a much a different story on a larger scale, but really? Please let the lady rest and recover.
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There is something in humanity that craves being dominated, that craves punishment. There's no other way to explain why anyone would vote for Trump to be President. Out of a thousand people, you'd be hard pressed to find a worse candidate. He is a horrible bully with no ideas, no attention span, and who lashes out whenever he is criticized.
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Does the (broadcast) media realize that they've created Donald, and are they prepared to watch the consequences? (I don't mean Fox, which owns Donald and vice-versa). Every time a Donaldite is on TV, the sane people turn to the comedy channel, which means that sane political forums are no longer being watched. This is a kind of infiltration of 'enemy' media by extremists who can shut down the dialogue. Every time his peroxide bullies appear on TV, they get the better of the reporters, all fair-play and mild. They know what they're doing: playing the media for fools. There's a difference between "reporting" Trump's claims and broadcasting his rants live. Call them out. And why is nobody calling out that team of real-estate agents he calls his 'family'? This isn't funny, it's a national disaster.
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th worst possible dem running against th worst possible repub
usa # 1
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Once I had a relative who was sick, taking temperatures every 20 minutes -- before seeing the doctor. Reporting on polls every day before the debates is like that. But it keeps people watching the shows and reading the papers, and that's what matters, right?
Meanwhile, compare-and-contrast the party platforms of Democrats and Republicans, evaluating the effectiveness of proposed policies, pointing out when the Constitution may be violated by a policy proposal -- these things the so-called mainstream media don't consistently do.
When did journalism start focusing on things that have (constantly changing) numbers attached to them without caring about the nature and quality of the things that really matter?
Meanwhile, compare-and-contrast the party platforms of Democrats and Republicans, evaluating the effectiveness of proposed policies, pointing out when the Constitution may be violated by a policy proposal -- these things the so-called mainstream media don't consistently do.
When did journalism start focusing on things that have (constantly changing) numbers attached to them without caring about the nature and quality of the things that really matter?
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Meanwhile, we foreigners are wondering how much more grotesque this election can get. Facts have disappeared, relevance is not an issue, and credulity is a major driver. "Crooked Hillary" wasn't even a topic a year ago, now it's an actual issue? Has anyone actually read any of those emails, which also weren't an issue until someone made them one? No, of course not. That would be nerdish, and intelligence of any kind is illegal in American media. A guy who can't finish a sentence in context with another sentence is a bona fide candidate? "Risks" means "anything we have no way of knowing and are too lazy to find out" but that's OK? Any statement is swallowed whole at face value by those who are paid to do so, but any fact is spun until it looks nice? And you're buying it? You must be out of your FOX-flavored minds.
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I have voted Democratic in every presidential election since I became old enough to vote in 1980. I have contributed to most. I have never been so disappointed in the Party's nominee. Trumo is so horribly scary that any sane person should be panicked at the thought of him becoming president. I believe that the system that gave us these choices is extremely broken.
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"How can this be happening?"
Two answers:
1. Most important, it hasn't actually happened yet, and may never happen. Clinton is still comfortably ahead, especially in electoral votes. The trend isn't good for her, but she's nevertheless still ahead, and fewer voters are left who haven't made up their minds.
2. If it does happen, it will be because the Democratic Party saw fit to run the one candidate who possibly could lose to Trump. Sanders consistently polled better against Trump than Clinton polled against Trump, but the Democratic National Committee decided early on that Clinton would be the horse they'd ride. Not surprisingly, she'd reached the same conclusion. A few closed primaries, super delegates and various DNC shenanigans later, here we are.
That's how this can be happening.
Two answers:
1. Most important, it hasn't actually happened yet, and may never happen. Clinton is still comfortably ahead, especially in electoral votes. The trend isn't good for her, but she's nevertheless still ahead, and fewer voters are left who haven't made up their minds.
2. If it does happen, it will be because the Democratic Party saw fit to run the one candidate who possibly could lose to Trump. Sanders consistently polled better against Trump than Clinton polled against Trump, but the Democratic National Committee decided early on that Clinton would be the horse they'd ride. Not surprisingly, she'd reached the same conclusion. A few closed primaries, super delegates and various DNC shenanigans later, here we are.
That's how this can be happening.
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Imagine how far ahead Trump would be if his policies got more coverage.
Who can be against:
Enforcing the borders?*
Bringing good jobs back to the US with trade policies fairer to the US?
Making Europe and others pay much more for their defense?
No more Muslim immigration. See if Hillary will advocate for a Syrian refugee camp in her neighborhood.
*Easy to make Mexico pay for the wall. They have a positive trade balance with the US. ~ $50B per year. They don't pay for the wall no more trade. It's an easy business decision. Something career politicians like Clinton don't get. They've been selling out / giving away the store for years.
Who can be against:
Enforcing the borders?*
Bringing good jobs back to the US with trade policies fairer to the US?
Making Europe and others pay much more for their defense?
No more Muslim immigration. See if Hillary will advocate for a Syrian refugee camp in her neighborhood.
*Easy to make Mexico pay for the wall. They have a positive trade balance with the US. ~ $50B per year. They don't pay for the wall no more trade. It's an easy business decision. Something career politicians like Clinton don't get. They've been selling out / giving away the store for years.
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This might help www.democracynow.org/2016/9/15/us_foreign_policy_for_sale_behind
One of the most telling things about Hillary is the way she jealously guards her own secrets while not bothering about national security secrets. In other words she places her ambitions and interests above those of the country. If nothing else disqualifies her this does.
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Right ....
35 years of tax returns vs zero for Trump. You all should have quit this line of deception while you were ahead.
35 years of tax returns vs zero for Trump. You all should have quit this line of deception while you were ahead.
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Funny, so many Sanders supporters rightly point out the DNC and the media slanted the election towards Hillary excluding all but perfunctory Sanders coverage. Now, we are to believe suddenly, based on many disgruntled Clinton supporters here, that the media is skewing favorable coverage towards Trump? LOL. Trump would be 10-15 points further ahead if it weren't for the 95% incessant, pro-Hillary coverage.
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A perfect example of how the media legitimizes Trump is the leaked emails from Colin Powell. It is quite different to say that Trump is a "national disgrace and an international pariah" and that Hillary keeps trying to get Powell involved when he doesn't want to be. The first is an actual slur against Trump, the second not happy that Hillary is trying to include him. Yet I continue to hear commentators equating the two.
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Donald Trump's new poll numbers is great news and if he just keeps on this present course he could actually win the election. He needs to keep attending rallies and speaking to the crowds. They seem to love his message and he is certainly popular with the people. If this enthusiasm continues and he shows that he truly cares for working people and feels their concerns, he could be President Trump.
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If The Donald holds his own in the debates, he is a winner in November because he greatly under polls. Hilary has the experience, but the voters realize it is experience in lying and deception.Call Trump whatever you want but he is the real deal and not a bought and paid for disengreanouos self-serving politial hack.
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"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." - H. L. Mencken
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What each candidate needs to do in the first debate:
Clinton:
Her supporters insist she'll skewer Trump, and she probably will. But everyone expects that. If it happens, it will simply confirm what everyone already thinks about her but doesn't consider sufficient: She's a smart policy wonk, but an ice queen. She needs to convey "warmth and fuzziness" -- to persuade viewers she's not just an ice-queen policy wonk.
Trump:
He needs to persuade viewers he's "Presidential." Reagan accomplished this in his first debate with Carter (though, frankly, I thought Carter mopped the floor with Reagan in that debate). With the very important exception of his Mexico visit, Trump has not looked "Presidential." Nobody expects him to beat Clinton substantively. But as long as he doesn't look really stupid on the merits (and I doubt he will), he'll "win" if he can persuade viewers he looks "Presidential" (as Clinton unquestionably does already). If he leaves viewers still believing he's nothing but an un-Presidential buffoon, he'll lose.
Clinton:
Her supporters insist she'll skewer Trump, and she probably will. But everyone expects that. If it happens, it will simply confirm what everyone already thinks about her but doesn't consider sufficient: She's a smart policy wonk, but an ice queen. She needs to convey "warmth and fuzziness" -- to persuade viewers she's not just an ice-queen policy wonk.
Trump:
He needs to persuade viewers he's "Presidential." Reagan accomplished this in his first debate with Carter (though, frankly, I thought Carter mopped the floor with Reagan in that debate). With the very important exception of his Mexico visit, Trump has not looked "Presidential." Nobody expects him to beat Clinton substantively. But as long as he doesn't look really stupid on the merits (and I doubt he will), he'll "win" if he can persuade viewers he looks "Presidential" (as Clinton unquestionably does already). If he leaves viewers still believing he's nothing but an un-Presidential buffoon, he'll lose.
Sorry but I only pay attention occasionally to polls. I also did not read any of the comments. But my question is simple who the heck our "likely voters?" How would you know? How did you decide if they were likely to vote or not?
Whatever! Polls are a means to shape public opinion. My opinion is inviolate. I'm a likely independent voter and I have no intention to vote for Trump or Clinton. My greatest wish is that they both lose and both the Democratic and Republican Party go down in flames.
That won't happen this year, of course. So, what's ahead?
I have a feeling the vast majority of Americans are fed up with our corrupt political duopoly and that the establishment of both parties are about to face an earth shattering comeuppance in the next few years.
Whatever! Polls are a means to shape public opinion. My opinion is inviolate. I'm a likely independent voter and I have no intention to vote for Trump or Clinton. My greatest wish is that they both lose and both the Democratic and Republican Party go down in flames.
That won't happen this year, of course. So, what's ahead?
I have a feeling the vast majority of Americans are fed up with our corrupt political duopoly and that the establishment of both parties are about to face an earth shattering comeuppance in the next few years.
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"How will President Trump respond to those who clearly don't support him?"
Disrespectfully. So will President Hillary Clinton, though it may take a bit longer for the person to figure out Clinton has shown disrespect.
Disrespectfully. So will President Hillary Clinton, though it may take a bit longer for the person to figure out Clinton has shown disrespect.
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that was deplorable.
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