Variety: Urban Renewal

Sep 11, 2016 · 64 comments
Mary (Sun Valley, ID)
Oops, I meant BARGE and LULL.
Emily (Denver)
Barge + Long = Barcelona
Mary (Sun Valley, ID)
Anybody get CHART and LULL? This puzzle was fun and challenging, just what a puzzle should be!
Ralph (Baton Rouge)
I got all but jerks/alum. Help?
suejean (Harrogate)
Change the K and U
SuiGeneris (Emeryville, CA)
I got everyone but one: Jerks--with Alarm the only ending remaining. Can someone help?
Mark (San Francisco)
I suggest looking at a map of Afrrica...
SuiGeneris (Emeryville, CA)
Still stumped.
Haskell (Nevada)
You must have something else wrong. Jerks goes with Alum, not Alarm.
Madeline (Tucson)
This was great fun and I'd love to see more of the same. For some reason I got most of the foreign ones early on, and struggled much more with the U.S. cities, like the capital of my state, duh--I won't say which one but it's in the far west. I finally did got them all, with no help, and that's why I love Mike Shenk's puzzles!
Jim (Woodbridge, CT)
Month Elder is Montpelier--one of the cleverest of the pairings.

But I'm having problems with some of the foreign cities!
rprp2 (<br/>)
Could also be Montague, which would use one of the ending words that is needed for the foreign cities! And neither Montague (Massachusetts) nor Montpelier is that well known.
Sean (Cumming, GA)
Surly you jest. Montpelier is a capital city!
Bebito (Boston)
One issue. MOP TRIAL is one of the combos. But MOP HAT gives a legitimate answer of BOPHAL, and if you get that first it will create issues later.
Dave (New Jersey)
Stuck with slang. And trial.
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
SLANG HAT = Asian city
MOP TRIAL = Canadian city
bill kapra (winston-salem nc)
We're Stuck!

Chart + Gum ??
MTF Tobin (Manhattanville)
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Head to the Arabic-speaking nations.

There's a connection to the first hour of the first Godfather film, too.
jonathan pointer (los angeles)
Khartoum
Jack Sullivan (Scottsdale, AZ)
I was left with MONTH and ELDER, convinced that ELDER should have been EMERY. Surely, the city was Montgomery and Mr Shenk had nodded. Silly me.
Anne (LA)
Please help. Just charge (2 on US Cities) is left.
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
You'll get it SOON.

OK, one more hint. The new letters are L and T.
Jack Sullivan (Scottsdale, AZ)
Think South Carolina. CHARGE + SOON
Anne (LA)
GRACIAS!
Clay (Washington DC)
Someone please help with Chart Gum. Last one and driving me crazy!
Barbara (Florida)
Khartoum. Can you help me with Brass Elk, my las one?
RY (Forgotten Borough)
Br..ssel..
JJ (Petaluma)
It was fun, if kinda easy. The one that I got stuck for a while on was the DESK FINES. Coming from Illinois originally, I just kept thinking Des Plaines. Even though it's a suburb/town, not a city, it just blocked me from getting the right answer for the longest time. Yes, fun.
Barbara (Florida)
What is world city #2?
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
BRASS ELK should get you there.
Barbara (Florida)
It didn't. It's my last blank and it's driving me crazy. :(
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
I was having lunch with a friend from Belgium, and another friend asked, "So you sprouted from ..., huh?"

Everybody laughed.
Marc (Chicago)
I have one left, driving me crazy: SHOE + FIX...
Amy (Boston)
phoenix
Marc (Chicago)
Unbelievable, I had a feeling it would be obvious once I saw it! Thanks.
puzzle lady (NY)
What is Month + Elder?
jg (bedford, ny)
Pay a visit to Bernie Sanders!
in vermont (vermont)
Huh?
JJ (Petaluma)
Good clue jg, although it's not Burlington, it's close enough! MONTHELDER.
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
Still struggling with CARESS/ALARM. Since I have 27 cities already, either that pair is a match or it isn't. And if it isn't a match, then I made a mistake somewhere else. At least I avoided Savannah. Looking for a hint, if someone would be so kind.
jg (bedford, ny)
Caress-alarm was also my last fill. Head for eastern Africa. Peace to you!
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
Thanks for the tip. I'm en ROUTE. (Apologies to the Dutch.)
twoberry (Vero Beach, FL)
Thanks to you and thanks to Google Maps. I've barely heard of Tanzania, let alone that city I found there. Tanzania was the second or third country I magnified to show the cities, so I found what I wanted. Thanks again. (And I just this second recognized your hint at the end of your reply!)
Jerrold (New York, NY)
THANKS A LOT, Amitai and David!
Amitai Halevi (Regba, Israel)
Jerrold. I replied an hour or so ago, but my comment didn't get through for some reason. Here's a different version:

Try DATA + SCUM and go to Syria; then
ROUTE + ROAM and go to Holland.
Emily (Denver)
Thank you for the Rout/Roam hint!
Jerrold (New York, NY)
Thanks again to the two people who helped me!

I am down to DATA and ROUTE.
Each one can only go with ROAM or SCUM, the only endings left,
and I am STILL stumped.
I hope we never see THIS one again.
(Yes, I realize that many others here may not share that opinion.)
David Connell (Weston CT)
Jerrold - I replied with hints for you, but the emus don't like people without green checks using the very words that are in the puzzle itself.
Sigh.
One day, the world will be different.
Amitai Halevi (Regba, Israel)
Jerrold.

Having failed twice to get my comment published, I finally understood what David is saying. Here it is again in a form that I hope will get by the emus.

Thake the ROUTE to Holland and ROAM there.
Then take what is left to Syria.
David Connell (Weston CT)
St. Paul on the road to Data Scum...

Route Roam is the principal city of South Holland...
MTF Tobin (Manhattanville)
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Inventive and challenging on a scale with other Second Sunday puzzles.

I'm not sure I would do these if they were the larger Variety puzzle for any given Sunday. Put a handful in Little Variety, and I'd do them.
RY (Forgotten Borough)
Now that was fun and pretty tricky.
jg (bedford, ny)
This was tough and still tons of fun. I strayed to Savannah for the nth time but eventually discovered my folly over a glass of tomato juice and tonic. Was stuck on one last foreign city and the alarm finally went off while caressing my globe of the world...never would've gotten it otherwise.
David Connell (Weston CT)
I got stuck in Savannah for a little while, too, and appreciated that there were two possible uses for the Nth clue.
Julie Z. Rosenberg (Brooklyn)
Oh wow. Didn't realize there was an alternate answer. I got San Antonio but I now see Savannah works too. Wonder if Mike Shenk did that on purpose or if it was a coincidence.
Amitai Halevi (Regba, Israel)
SAVANNAH, which I also had as first, would have killed SACRAMENTO.
judy d (livingston nj)
very good puzzle -- love Mike Shenk! Strategy is to do all you can first, crossing off as you solve. The longer ones may be easier since there are more letters that stay the same. Last to fall were Mexico City, Honolulu, and Marseille.
Jerrold (New York, NY)
"Merci" for Marseille. lol
Now there are only six foreign cities that I can't get.
Can you please tell me any others?
(Their numbers are in my original post of today.)
Art Kraus (Princeton NJ)
This was interesting to solve, probably because I'm a bit of a map-oholic. As with Deb, I found the US cities somewhat easier, although it might have been nice to have a bit more introduction explaining how two-or-more-worded city names may parse differently than the starting words (e.g., San Antonio from SATAN TONIC). I found it helped to hold my pencil over each letter of the first word to see if the start of a city name popped out at me.
David Connell (Weston CT)
This was a ton of fun. Some were quite a challenge and all were interesting once found.
It took me a good while to fix my shoe...even though I knew it was right!

Meta thought - I appreciated how there was fair enough representation geographically among the US cities, and an okay worldwide distribution. The African representatives were surprisingly tough to solve for me, but I was glad they were there.

hee hee
Jerrold (New York, NY)
This one was truly a toughie.
But after all, a challenge is what we are all here for.

I finally got all the U.S. cities by sometime on Friday.
The most difficult were the ones with "month" and with "sun".

I have been able to get only seven of the foreign cities; I cannot
get # 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 13 and 14.
Julie Z. Rosenberg (Brooklyn)
SPOILER ALERT.
Hi Jerrold. I've gotten all of the world cities but two of them, 5 and 6. I'll give you a few...
Brisbane
Bucharest
Shanghai
Can you give me #5?
Jen G (Philadelphia)
5 is Dar es Salaam (kind of impressed with that one!)
6 is Khartoum
Jerrold (New York, NY)
THANKS A LOT!