Mr Trump he's all over the place next week he be some where else .
"Why Donald Trump’s Tactic on Crime May Not Meet Nixon’s Success"
There aren't enough stupid white people.
There aren't enough stupid white people.
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To hear Don "Patrick Bateman" Jr., facts like the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) don't measure unemployment and FBI crime statistics don't measure violence.
Donald "I and I alone" Trump decides what unemployment is, what crime is and what facts themselves are.
Donald "I and I alone" Trump thinks the world is spinning out of control like never before.
I don't think Donald or Jr. are familiar with much history, like 9/11, WWII, the Holocaust, Stalin's starvation of the Ukraine, WWI, but I digress.
When you can make up your own facts, your own data, and your own hysteria, you can create your own National Emergency that requires "temporary" Executive power.
Donald is already saying the Constitution is not a suicide pact, so he is brushing that aside.
He is bringing back torture and libel laws against the media to better quash dissent.
Lock up political opponents - he's got a mob for that.
He is already working with foreign Russian agents in a ghastly attempt to sway the American electorate. His campaign manager/dictator representative Paul Manafort has the Putin connection.
Trump conflates increased crime and violence reporting through social media and 24/7 cable news cycles with increased crime and violence to the gullible American public.
After elected, he doesn't need to actually reduce crime and violence, just the reporting of it.
What are facts after all?
Donald "I and I alone" Trump decides what unemployment is, what crime is and what facts themselves are.
Donald "I and I alone" Trump thinks the world is spinning out of control like never before.
I don't think Donald or Jr. are familiar with much history, like 9/11, WWII, the Holocaust, Stalin's starvation of the Ukraine, WWI, but I digress.
When you can make up your own facts, your own data, and your own hysteria, you can create your own National Emergency that requires "temporary" Executive power.
Donald is already saying the Constitution is not a suicide pact, so he is brushing that aside.
He is bringing back torture and libel laws against the media to better quash dissent.
Lock up political opponents - he's got a mob for that.
He is already working with foreign Russian agents in a ghastly attempt to sway the American electorate. His campaign manager/dictator representative Paul Manafort has the Putin connection.
Trump conflates increased crime and violence reporting through social media and 24/7 cable news cycles with increased crime and violence to the gullible American public.
After elected, he doesn't need to actually reduce crime and violence, just the reporting of it.
What are facts after all?
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Bill Clinton's crime bill in the 1990's had the most measurable effects on murders and violent crime. Put a world of criminals in prosin and you will always see the streets become much safer.
Too bad the same party doesn't have the courage to do it again. But Donald Trump CAN!
Too bad the same party doesn't have the courage to do it again. But Donald Trump CAN!
Why all of a sudden is Trump being compared to Nixon? Is it just another ploy by the press to put him down? Why has anyone not compared the emails released by Wikileaks to watergate?
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"Why has anyone not compared the emails released by Wikileaks to watergate?"
What's stopping you? The NYT has given you 1,500 characters to convince the rest of us of the relevance of Nixon's hiring thugs to break into the DNC in 1972 to this year's campaign.
If you're referring to the 2016 DNC emails, showing the party favored Clinton and schemed to undermine Sanders, I can see the faint parallel. But it's really nowhere close to Nixon's criminality, and HRC has not been connected to it (whereas RMN spent a large chunk of his Oval Office hours deep in petty crime).
If you're referring to HRC's own emails, I haven't studied them, but I'm not aware of anything that bears any comparison to Watergate.
If you've got anything to say, I'm listening, but so far all I hear is the sound of someone who hasn't actually put any thought into the situation. I know you trust your gut, but why should we? Speak, and enlighten us.
What's stopping you? The NYT has given you 1,500 characters to convince the rest of us of the relevance of Nixon's hiring thugs to break into the DNC in 1972 to this year's campaign.
If you're referring to the 2016 DNC emails, showing the party favored Clinton and schemed to undermine Sanders, I can see the faint parallel. But it's really nowhere close to Nixon's criminality, and HRC has not been connected to it (whereas RMN spent a large chunk of his Oval Office hours deep in petty crime).
If you're referring to HRC's own emails, I haven't studied them, but I'm not aware of anything that bears any comparison to Watergate.
If you've got anything to say, I'm listening, but so far all I hear is the sound of someone who hasn't actually put any thought into the situation. I know you trust your gut, but why should we? Speak, and enlighten us.
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The media becomes Trump's biggest ally in selling crime. If it bleeds it leads.
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I am a white male college grad however crime is important to me. Me Trump does not impress me here or anyplace else as he never explains how he will do anything. Screaming he will take the streets back by January 21 is really dumb.
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I think that the reason that crime has seemed to go down in resent years is the tendency of local governments to plea bargain crime cases to lesser charges to save the cost of a jury trial. Yes money talks and criminals walk.
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The only reason so many in America are scared, is because that has been one of the GOP platforms for years. After 9-11, every time things got politically tight, they would put out a terrorist alert on something and raise the alert one or two levels until people stopped talking about their political issues. Now, they tell everyone the terrorists are going to be knocking on your door to behead you or blow you up or shoot you. The GOP rails against terrorists shootings, yet they help supply the guns and ammo to them by letting anyone buy guns, even those on the terrorist watch list and the mentally disabled. They are owned by the NRA, who apparently has no concern for people's safety, only the gun manufacturers they support. The republican followers seem like scared little children listening to a loud thunderstorm and somehow believing it will get them. Running around with a gun on your shoulder or strapped to your hip doesn't make you a patriot. Voting to remove the republican senators, congressmen and presidential nominee who support and feed the fear in our government, is truly patriotic. Donny Draft Dodger and the GOP have no intentions of making America safe, if they do, they will have no base to keep them going. Just sayin.
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'The only reason'? I don't the majority of people living in Chicago, Paris, London, Munich, San Bernadino, Belgium, Denmark or Tampa would agree with you.
We are talking about the uSA here. BTW, Munich has said it was the act of a 18 yo fascinated with serial killers. He did it, on purpose on the 5th anniversary of the Norwegian attack of the white supremacist. let's not mix up facts for an agenda.
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Violent crime is down, gun crime is down and the prison population is down. Crime is less of a problem than any time in the last 20 years. Republicans lie about the crime rate to promote law and order. Democrats lie about the crime rate to promote reform. The truth about crime serves no political purpose, so everyone lies. That should be a crime.
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Progressives tend to blur the definition of crime in such a way as to de-legitimize supporters of Trump who accept the sense of a general crime wave. Progressives may win the legal arguments but they leave many people feeling like they have just been had.
For one thing there are approximately 250k illegal immigrants in jail right now; there are apx. another 300k who have been jailed and released. Those numbers are significant. The costs of those in jail amount to 3 billion dollars. Taxes which pay for them are not provided by other illegals.
Currently there are 13 million illegal immigrants living here. Progressives refuse to call it a crime, but the costs to social services is staggering (trillions). If you are working 2 jobs to pay bills, or 50 or 60 hour work weeks, the taxes you pay to cover those 13 million are staggering. Somehow progressives think nothing of this.
If you work a tech job where someone comes in from a 3rd world country and underbids you, knowing they can return to their country and live well you feel cheated. Trump gives voice to that innate sense.
I recently returned from Florida where traffic made going anywhere a nightmare. There were incredible numbers of Spanish speaking people who didn’t speak English. The ecological condition of the state is a disaster, yet swarms of people continue to come in. Kaine’s solution is to speak in Spanish to them. That enabling feels like a crime.
For one thing there are approximately 250k illegal immigrants in jail right now; there are apx. another 300k who have been jailed and released. Those numbers are significant. The costs of those in jail amount to 3 billion dollars. Taxes which pay for them are not provided by other illegals.
Currently there are 13 million illegal immigrants living here. Progressives refuse to call it a crime, but the costs to social services is staggering (trillions). If you are working 2 jobs to pay bills, or 50 or 60 hour work weeks, the taxes you pay to cover those 13 million are staggering. Somehow progressives think nothing of this.
If you work a tech job where someone comes in from a 3rd world country and underbids you, knowing they can return to their country and live well you feel cheated. Trump gives voice to that innate sense.
I recently returned from Florida where traffic made going anywhere a nightmare. There were incredible numbers of Spanish speaking people who didn’t speak English. The ecological condition of the state is a disaster, yet swarms of people continue to come in. Kaine’s solution is to speak in Spanish to them. That enabling feels like a crime.
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"Currently there are 13 million illegal immigrants living here. Progressives refuse to call it a crime, but the costs to social services is staggering (trillions)."
OK, let's round "trillions" down to one trillion ($1,000,000,000,000). Divided by your 13 million immigrants equals $76,923.08 that you believe your tax dollars are paying each year in social services to each and every immigrant.
I don't know what part of MA you live in, but in my neighborhood, there are lots of immigrants, working hard, paying taxes, and using a hell of a lot less social services than my autistic son does. I'm quite sure the vast majority are paying more in taxes than they're using in services. Remember that even those who work entirely off the books (a minority) are paying sales taxes and their rent is paying the landlord's property taxes. And those working on the books are paying a full 15% in SS and Medicare payroll tax, but will almost certainly never get credit for it.
I hear your objection to illegal immigration, and would like to hear more specific and valid examples of the harm done by it. But if your argument is mainly made-up numbers that don't add up, you're not making a very good case.
Try harder!
OK, let's round "trillions" down to one trillion ($1,000,000,000,000). Divided by your 13 million immigrants equals $76,923.08 that you believe your tax dollars are paying each year in social services to each and every immigrant.
I don't know what part of MA you live in, but in my neighborhood, there are lots of immigrants, working hard, paying taxes, and using a hell of a lot less social services than my autistic son does. I'm quite sure the vast majority are paying more in taxes than they're using in services. Remember that even those who work entirely off the books (a minority) are paying sales taxes and their rent is paying the landlord's property taxes. And those working on the books are paying a full 15% in SS and Medicare payroll tax, but will almost certainly never get credit for it.
I hear your objection to illegal immigration, and would like to hear more specific and valid examples of the harm done by it. But if your argument is mainly made-up numbers that don't add up, you're not making a very good case.
Try harder!
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Watch your local TV news and you'd swear we are in a never-ending nightmare of robberies, muggings, rapes, assaults, beatings and break-ins. The people who watch this mayhem are older, by and large, less educated and middle class. Trump voters, most likely.
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By focusing on 'crime', Trump is proving that he has mastered the art of dog-whistle racism and is thus deserving of the nomination. Be happy Republicans.
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Amen! You are so right.
Global warming is a liberal myth, crime is out of control, America prestige is on the decline world wide, illegal immigrants are streaming across the border in record numbers. Under Obama the deficit has exploded..... And now for the facts - last year was the warmest on record and this year is on track to set a new all time high. The rate of violent crime has declined very significantly, Under the Obama administration American prestige in the rest of the world has greatly improved. Illegal immigration into the U.S. is at a 40 year low. Obama inherited a budget deficit of $1350 billion dollars and has reduced it to $500 billion dollars - the largest budget deficit reduction by any administration. If facts matter and the press does a half way job, Trump is in a world of hurt.
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Trump, July 12:
"I can tell you that I’m sitting in Chicago where we’ve had almost 5,000 killings, deaths, from the time [Obama] became president and you don’t hear too much about it. And you know, you see what’s going on now, and by the way getting worse and worse and worse."
Of course, Trump's figures were wrong, even Sean Hannity of Fox corrected his figure to 3,459, nearly a thousand lower than the equivalent period of the previous W Bush Administration.
But the Donald never lets facts get in the way of a good story that his supporters, who live disproportionately in smaller towns and cities, are preconditioned to believe.
We should be concerned with violent crime and it's causes, especially the segregation that has led to concentrated poverty, educational failures and civil breakdown. Chicago is a great example of that legacy and would benefit from studying the experience of New York, Los Angeles and other big cities that have seen dramatic drops in crime through smarter community engagement and policing.
The top states for violent crime in 2015 are AK, NV, TN, NM, FL, SC and LA. We also ought to understand how guns, opioid addiction and social factors contribute.
"I can tell you that I’m sitting in Chicago where we’ve had almost 5,000 killings, deaths, from the time [Obama] became president and you don’t hear too much about it. And you know, you see what’s going on now, and by the way getting worse and worse and worse."
Of course, Trump's figures were wrong, even Sean Hannity of Fox corrected his figure to 3,459, nearly a thousand lower than the equivalent period of the previous W Bush Administration.
But the Donald never lets facts get in the way of a good story that his supporters, who live disproportionately in smaller towns and cities, are preconditioned to believe.
We should be concerned with violent crime and it's causes, especially the segregation that has led to concentrated poverty, educational failures and civil breakdown. Chicago is a great example of that legacy and would benefit from studying the experience of New York, Los Angeles and other big cities that have seen dramatic drops in crime through smarter community engagement and policing.
The top states for violent crime in 2015 are AK, NV, TN, NM, FL, SC and LA. We also ought to understand how guns, opioid addiction and social factors contribute.
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Low crime rates make violent crime seem all the more shocking.
Back in the 60s and 70s, people were used to it. They had Fox Police Locks on their apartment doors, took out the radio and put it in the trunk when they parked their car, and locked the steering wheel with The Club. Everyone knew someone who had been mugged, and many people knew someone who had been murdered. That's just the way it was.
Now, if a single criminal tries to grab a girl on the street, there is a city-wide alert and hundreds of cops are mobilized. People are more shocked today by ordinary crime than they were in the era of general mayhem.
So these appeals may not be as limited as you might think.
Back in the 60s and 70s, people were used to it. They had Fox Police Locks on their apartment doors, took out the radio and put it in the trunk when they parked their car, and locked the steering wheel with The Club. Everyone knew someone who had been mugged, and many people knew someone who had been murdered. That's just the way it was.
Now, if a single criminal tries to grab a girl on the street, there is a city-wide alert and hundreds of cops are mobilized. People are more shocked today by ordinary crime than they were in the era of general mayhem.
So these appeals may not be as limited as you might think.
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Whenever you talk about the 1968 campaign you need to remember the Vietnam war, the riots at the Democratic Convention and Mayor Dailey, and the ghost of Lyndon Johnson hanging over Senator Humphrey. Vietnam poisoned everything, and along came Nixon implying but not quite saying he could end the war in Vietnam while at the same time playing to Wallace supporters and others in the south who thought that civil rights had somehow gone too far. About the only things Nixon got right were things that Trump would have repudiated. And 1968 wasn't comparable to 2016 in any way.
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Trump as Nixon reborn what a scary prospect. I was in college starting in 1968 and these were some of the worst days in this countries history.
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Nixon's Law and Order theme seemed low and inflammatory at the time: but what a different time! Cities were ablaze, King and Kennedy murdered, soldiers killed by the thousand in a losing and meaningless war, the Chicago Dem Convention and other mass anti-government demonstrations. Trump and Co. are flailing. Nothing like those days now, can't see how his Law and Order gambit can succeed. But then again, my record of predicting electoral outcomes is poor.
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You conveniently end your crime rate graph at 2014. No-one is disputing that crime was on the downswing thanks to the sensible polices enacted by leaders like Bill Clinton and Rudy Giuliani. Citizens' concerns about crime simply reflect the reality that as we have turned away from those policies in the last couple of years, crime has in fact started to rise.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html
Then there are the recent BLM inspired murders of cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge along with the viscous attacks on cops in Minneapolis.
Those of us old enough to remember how bad crime used to be under the policies of criminal coddling, soft on crime Democrats have no desire to return to those days. i.e. We fully recognize that it's not as bad as it was, but would prefer to restore order long before it gets that bad again.
I find Trump to be an incoherent bully and have been seriously considering Gary Johnson, but Hillary's continued embrace of anti-cop rhetoric and originations may give me no choice.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/14/us/murder-rates-cities-fbi.html
Then there are the recent BLM inspired murders of cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge along with the viscous attacks on cops in Minneapolis.
Those of us old enough to remember how bad crime used to be under the policies of criminal coddling, soft on crime Democrats have no desire to return to those days. i.e. We fully recognize that it's not as bad as it was, but would prefer to restore order long before it gets that bad again.
I find Trump to be an incoherent bully and have been seriously considering Gary Johnson, but Hillary's continued embrace of anti-cop rhetoric and originations may give me no choice.
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And just what do you propose that victims of out-of-control police and their supporters should do, especially now that they have video evidence to support their complaints? Shut up and accept it?
"...the right to peacefully assemble and petition for redress of grievance...". Without being blamed for the actions of a couple of mental cases.
"...the right to peacefully assemble and petition for redress of grievance...". Without being blamed for the actions of a couple of mental cases.
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"What we don’t know, however, is what effect this issue emphasis will have on the race."
A deeper analysis would seem pretty straightforward: Analyze vioent crime trends in battleground states.
I live in St Louis, MO, and crime here is running against the national trend and is increasing. It's not the ballyhooed "Ferguson Effect", and it's not strictly limited to gang violence over drug turf. Random-target crime downtown has spiked to a degree that a distressingly large number of St. Louis suburban residents won't even go downtown for a Cardinals game anymore.
Throw out the national trends and break this down by battleground states. Then you'll have a clearer picture of how this tactic could play out in November.
A deeper analysis would seem pretty straightforward: Analyze vioent crime trends in battleground states.
I live in St Louis, MO, and crime here is running against the national trend and is increasing. It's not the ballyhooed "Ferguson Effect", and it's not strictly limited to gang violence over drug turf. Random-target crime downtown has spiked to a degree that a distressingly large number of St. Louis suburban residents won't even go downtown for a Cardinals game anymore.
Throw out the national trends and break this down by battleground states. Then you'll have a clearer picture of how this tactic could play out in November.
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If much larger cities such as New York city can significantly reduce crime, what are the folks doing in St Louis to improve overall relations and reduce these numbers. It is stupid to blame it all on the "bad guys" especially minorities.
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