Its amazing how she speaks latin if she does`t know how to speak portuguese yet!!! Your Dilma is completely different from who we know ... sorry
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Ms Rousseff and Mr Lula da Silva, among many other politicians, are compulsive liars. Ms Rousseff´s statement that she gave top priority to electricity grid is one good example. She simply destroyed the energy industry in Brazil, including electricity generation and distribution, by controlling prices and cutting investments. Any article based on statements given by politicians are suspicious by definition. I strongly suggest Mr Romero to write his articles based only on financial figures, law enforcement and statements from independent analists
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What? Mr. Temer speaks an "archaic portuguese"? This journalist doesn't seem to know a thing. Ask this to any brazilian: Dilma Rousseff is the one who kills the language. Even worse was her predecessor, Lula, who never read a gramar book ever. Mr. Temer speaks a formal portuguese, that's true, but perfectly, perfectly correct and beautiful.
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One thing that NYT needs to know is that any politic today in Brasil is clean. All of them commit some corruption acts, because the system itself is so corrupt. But the Workers Party (P.T.) of Lula and Dilma is the worst of all, because they created and executed directly those robbery schemes. The others were just benefit from the bigger crime: an assault to the state. The P.M.D.B. of Mr. Temer was a supporting character in the robbery.
New York - NY / U.S.A
June 8th, 2016
Brazil’s Petrobras (PBR), ongoing multi-billion dollars corruption scheme, and it’s own criminal staging couldn’t possible have worked so widely unnoticed, and so aggressively spread for so many years without the physical existence of Rusev’s previously appointed members from 2005’s monthly allowance probe, who have by all means composed a corrupted to its center’s core Federal government as a main body in Brazil’s history.
A legit shield to serve and protect it the utmost legit dismembered nine fingers arrogant imbecile in Brazil’s history, and or Rusev’s predecessor, commonly known as Lula, who have indeed fathered the biggest corruption probe since mid 2003’s, under to an Italian mafia, led by Mario Covino, Flavio Ricotti, Richard Morlok and Thomas Farwell, (indicted by the U.S Department of Justice in 2005), along with their own main head treasurer commonly known as John Vaccari, who has been arrested and charged by local federal officials since early 2015’s, amidst a massive $ 800 million dollars in contracts manipulation and bribes from PBR and funneled throughout Rusev’s workers’ communist coalition, included a massive $ 23 billion dollars in stock market manipulation at nasdaq located in New York.
June 8th, 2016
Brazil’s Petrobras (PBR), ongoing multi-billion dollars corruption scheme, and it’s own criminal staging couldn’t possible have worked so widely unnoticed, and so aggressively spread for so many years without the physical existence of Rusev’s previously appointed members from 2005’s monthly allowance probe, who have by all means composed a corrupted to its center’s core Federal government as a main body in Brazil’s history.
A legit shield to serve and protect it the utmost legit dismembered nine fingers arrogant imbecile in Brazil’s history, and or Rusev’s predecessor, commonly known as Lula, who have indeed fathered the biggest corruption probe since mid 2003’s, under to an Italian mafia, led by Mario Covino, Flavio Ricotti, Richard Morlok and Thomas Farwell, (indicted by the U.S Department of Justice in 2005), along with their own main head treasurer commonly known as John Vaccari, who has been arrested and charged by local federal officials since early 2015’s, amidst a massive $ 800 million dollars in contracts manipulation and bribes from PBR and funneled throughout Rusev’s workers’ communist coalition, included a massive $ 23 billion dollars in stock market manipulation at nasdaq located in New York.
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The inquisition of President Dilma Rousseff by the crooked opposition is a warning to the freedom and peace loving people of Latin America. Beware of white oligarchs who look up to Washington D.C. and ask president Obama, now that you've danced the political tango with Macri, will you dance the samba with el chefe, Temer.
Temer was chosen by Dilma as her vice president. He had the same number of votes she had. He may not be the best choice, but he is the only legal choice we Brazilians have! The impeachment is legal and supported by the Brazilian Supreme Court! You are completely misinformed! Even her own political party doesn't want her back! If you feel sorry for her, please take her to Puerto Rico! I feel sorry for the millions of Brazilians who lost thei jobs because of her wrong doings! Dilma, it's time to go! Bye honey!
Lets have the freedom, the peace and the love of Venezuela. Or Cuba. Or Bolívia. They're exemples of prosperity, democracy and respect to human rights, isn't it? haha
New York - NY / U.S.A
June 9th, 2016
Do you have by any chance a load of non-socialist generic jokes to tell us overseas, because you'd have already a sample of your presumptive excuses fully loaded with Latin America's sugar coating commonly used as form of defense mechanism.
June 9th, 2016
Do you have by any chance a load of non-socialist generic jokes to tell us overseas, because you'd have already a sample of your presumptive excuses fully loaded with Latin America's sugar coating commonly used as form of defense mechanism.
Mr. Romero's article is very simpathetic towards former president Roussef, almost making her a victim of a conspiracy. The photos illustrating the text help highlight that perspective.
Such perspective of the facts sounds naive to most Brazilians. The "new cabinet" can hardly be described as new, being rather a continuation of Ms. Roussef's. Moreover, Ms. Roussef's depiction as a "corruptless" does not ressonate among ordinary people, used to the country's political ethics.
Instead of taking sides, Mr. Roumero should focus his jornalistic interest on how the impechment process, a hope of change for most Brazilians, is backfiring on that purpose.
Such perspective of the facts sounds naive to most Brazilians. The "new cabinet" can hardly be described as new, being rather a continuation of Ms. Roussef's. Moreover, Ms. Roussef's depiction as a "corruptless" does not ressonate among ordinary people, used to the country's political ethics.
Instead of taking sides, Mr. Roumero should focus his jornalistic interest on how the impechment process, a hope of change for most Brazilians, is backfiring on that purpose.
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The crisis in Brasil has complex roots.As a Portuguese colony, europes first and largest slave trader,(over 10 million humans from Africa) wealth was accumulated as a result of free slave labor,a capitalists dream.Slavery was formally abolished only in 1888. The country,from its foundation, was '"owned" by a small group of wealthy and elite ,supported by its military forces and the church.The majority of Brazils population,were freed slave subsistence farmers and indigenous native tribes also subsisting on hunting ,gathering and farming.
This social structure,which evolved to a military dictatorship of the elite,remained in place until the the 1980s, With the best and brightest of Brazils ,naturally arising leaders and social reformers eliminated by terror,assassination or "disappearance" .as in the rest of South America(ie Honduras,El Salvador,Nicaragua,Chile etc).The new "social reformers"in South America are second rate cloned political ideologists(both capitaltst and communist) ,appointed puppets or opportunists,whose duty and concern is to stay in power at any cost.Lula and Dilma were in charge of Brazils oil wealth,theres a 35 to 50 billion dollar hole in Brazils budget and theres 35 to 50 billion missing in oil revenue,,,,,,,even if they looked the other way,to survive,its theft from public wealth.Lula and Dilma have learned that power comes from the people.Hopefully, a peoples movement will cleanse all the political crooks.... Diem25 MOVEMENT BRAZIL !
This social structure,which evolved to a military dictatorship of the elite,remained in place until the the 1980s, With the best and brightest of Brazils ,naturally arising leaders and social reformers eliminated by terror,assassination or "disappearance" .as in the rest of South America(ie Honduras,El Salvador,Nicaragua,Chile etc).The new "social reformers"in South America are second rate cloned political ideologists(both capitaltst and communist) ,appointed puppets or opportunists,whose duty and concern is to stay in power at any cost.Lula and Dilma were in charge of Brazils oil wealth,theres a 35 to 50 billion dollar hole in Brazils budget and theres 35 to 50 billion missing in oil revenue,,,,,,,even if they looked the other way,to survive,its theft from public wealth.Lula and Dilma have learned that power comes from the people.Hopefully, a peoples movement will cleanse all the political crooks.... Diem25 MOVEMENT BRAZIL !
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Democrats remain a dream for the future Good Luck President Dilma Rousseff
New York - NY / U.S.A
June 8th, 2016
I must adimit it to myself, the only difference in today's world that truly separates physically and mentally the Democrats worldwide, and to Dilma Vana Rusev’s proletariat socialist & marxist dictatorship in Brazil's territory founded by Cuba's Castros brothers back in mid 1990's, commonly known as a criminal underground Sao Paolo’s Communist Forum, it is by far that all the Democrats are indeed fighting furiously to place it a male in the ladies room in the 21st century, while Dilma Vana Rusev is clearly fighting in the same manner to protect it a teenager prostitute and drug addicted, who had recently "raped", and or a sexually assaulted by her own criminal environment, composed by thirty drug smuggling criminals over a "funk, minus "n" letter, and plus "c" to officially segregated as an official party, harbored by Rusev's political LGBT & PSOL allied criminal coalition.
June 8th, 2016
I must adimit it to myself, the only difference in today's world that truly separates physically and mentally the Democrats worldwide, and to Dilma Vana Rusev’s proletariat socialist & marxist dictatorship in Brazil's territory founded by Cuba's Castros brothers back in mid 1990's, commonly known as a criminal underground Sao Paolo’s Communist Forum, it is by far that all the Democrats are indeed fighting furiously to place it a male in the ladies room in the 21st century, while Dilma Vana Rusev is clearly fighting in the same manner to protect it a teenager prostitute and drug addicted, who had recently "raped", and or a sexually assaulted by her own criminal environment, composed by thirty drug smuggling criminals over a "funk, minus "n" letter, and plus "c" to officially segregated as an official party, harbored by Rusev's political LGBT & PSOL allied criminal coalition.
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You have to wonder if this could be Hillary Clinton a couple of years down the road.
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Or Donald Trump right now!!
Mr. Temer is an illegitimate president. Corruption takes over the Senate and the political structure. Brazil asks for help . COUP IN BRAZIL .
New York - NY / U.S.A
June 8th, 2016
Rumors huh !
You must admit it to yourself, once and for all, that Brazil's Temer is by far a unique President, who have in past officially gained the same amount of votes as Rusev's, totalled around it 48.5 million votes in Brazil’s latest presidential election.
If so, calling him as an illegitimate president should be treated in the same manner as calling a legit mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute as illegitimate president. Don't you think so ?
June 8th, 2016
Rumors huh !
You must admit it to yourself, once and for all, that Brazil's Temer is by far a unique President, who have in past officially gained the same amount of votes as Rusev's, totalled around it 48.5 million votes in Brazil’s latest presidential election.
If so, calling him as an illegitimate president should be treated in the same manner as calling a legit mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute as illegitimate president. Don't you think so ?
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That is not true! The impeachment is legal and Mr Temer was chosen by Dilma as her Vice President! Those who say that there is a coup going on in Brazil, are either stupid or are part of the gang that having been exploiting the Brazilian people for the last 13 years! LULA and Dilma belong in prison!
The worst president in our history. The worst. She is responsible for all economical problems that Brazil is facing. She hide herself behind the mask of "I was in prison during the military dictatorship" to make people feel sorry for her. Incompetency, false statements, she lies about everything (including to be re-elected), she tried to protect Lula using her presidential power in a clear obstruction of justice, never in Brazil's history we had so many members of a party arrested for corruption and Dilma's party is the champion in this matter. She is like Polyana: "never know, never saw and for her the country is alive and kicking". I hope she can have Marie Antoniete's end.
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"She hide herself behind the mask of "I was in prison during the military dictatorship" to make people feel sorry for her. Incompetency,"
I agree with your statement. But was she really imprisoned? Lots of people doubt her claim!!
I agree with your statement. But was she really imprisoned? Lots of people doubt her claim!!
A lot of less-young Brazilians will remember Raimundo Sodré and his Bantu-swing based hit "A Massa". Sodré once said: "Onde tem miséria, tem música!" -- Where there's misery, there's music! Sodré's own career was crushed during the dictatorship, but approaching 70 years of age he continues to make music powerfully moving per both body & soul (many Brazilians would be surprised to hear this, given music's lack of reach when major labels aren't involved).
The pall hanging over Brazil's presidential palace pales beside the vast pall hanging over Brazil. And it's the woman in the palace who was at the top of the heap of those who have produced so much (more) misery for Brazil.
Poor Brazil. The Musical Country.
www.salvadorcentral.com
The pall hanging over Brazil's presidential palace pales beside the vast pall hanging over Brazil. And it's the woman in the palace who was at the top of the heap of those who have produced so much (more) misery for Brazil.
Poor Brazil. The Musical Country.
www.salvadorcentral.com
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Corruption free democracy has proven to be very elusive in Brazil. From the looks of the current situation, it will continue to be a dream for the future.
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New York - NY / U.S.A
June 8th, 2016
You quote :
"...Corruption free democracy..."
In fact, I've never heard, and or either read it those words composed in one single incoherent sentence before, but I can assured you that Dilma Vana Rusev’s has indeed fought for communism, Marxism and proletariat socialism her entirely life, and she's hasn't ever defended any state of democracy whatoever, and besides all that.
Since when socialist dictators such as Dilma Vana Rusev, Nicolas Maduro, and or Fidel Castro have ever sympathized with democracy ?
June 8th, 2016
You quote :
"...Corruption free democracy..."
In fact, I've never heard, and or either read it those words composed in one single incoherent sentence before, but I can assured you that Dilma Vana Rusev’s has indeed fought for communism, Marxism and proletariat socialism her entirely life, and she's hasn't ever defended any state of democracy whatoever, and besides all that.
Since when socialist dictators such as Dilma Vana Rusev, Nicolas Maduro, and or Fidel Castro have ever sympathized with democracy ?
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An honorable female president in prison due in part to our dishonorable
"front runner",Clinton,who wants to topple every government she and her
greedy cohorts want to control.
"front runner",Clinton,who wants to topple every government she and her
greedy cohorts want to control.
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New York - NY / U.S.A
June 7th, 2016
Brazika’s has the brimful rights to be officially recognized as the utmost unstable economy worldwide since past December 15th, 2015.
A country of future completely stuck it in the 40 years Journey back to its past, shimmering its own hidden colors of an illiterate civilization, truly trapped in a rotten to its center core's system.
A collapsed country led by a mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute, commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who was indeed physically trained at Cuba’s Jungle, under of the utmost repressive, undemocratic and depressive dictatorship regime ever in Latin America’s history.
Rusev's criminal coalition hasn't been overthrow by their own existent supreme court members, but indeed Rusev's has suffered the consequences of a political repossession due to her visible negligence, clearly stupidity, grammy awarded ineptitude, and most certainly her own homemade executive incompetence, amidst an ongoing and growing multi-billion dollars corruption scheme scandal that has taken Rusev's own main head treasurer John Vaccari straight to prision by Brazilian Federal officials since early 2015 amidst a massive $ 800 million dollars.
Dilma Vana Rusev has also being connected to a massive $ 23 billion dollars in stock market manipulation at nasdaq located in New York, and followed by Texas Pasadena’s Refinery misterious purchase, causing a massive loss of $ 349.3 million dollars in tax payers funding.
June 7th, 2016
Brazika’s has the brimful rights to be officially recognized as the utmost unstable economy worldwide since past December 15th, 2015.
A country of future completely stuck it in the 40 years Journey back to its past, shimmering its own hidden colors of an illiterate civilization, truly trapped in a rotten to its center core's system.
A collapsed country led by a mid 60’s terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute, commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who was indeed physically trained at Cuba’s Jungle, under of the utmost repressive, undemocratic and depressive dictatorship regime ever in Latin America’s history.
Rusev's criminal coalition hasn't been overthrow by their own existent supreme court members, but indeed Rusev's has suffered the consequences of a political repossession due to her visible negligence, clearly stupidity, grammy awarded ineptitude, and most certainly her own homemade executive incompetence, amidst an ongoing and growing multi-billion dollars corruption scheme scandal that has taken Rusev's own main head treasurer John Vaccari straight to prision by Brazilian Federal officials since early 2015 amidst a massive $ 800 million dollars.
Dilma Vana Rusev has also being connected to a massive $ 23 billion dollars in stock market manipulation at nasdaq located in New York, and followed by Texas Pasadena’s Refinery misterious purchase, causing a massive loss of $ 349.3 million dollars in tax payers funding.
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Many of the comments so far (130) critical of Rousseff seem likely to be from expatriate Brazilians living in the U.S. Conclude what one will from that, but speaking in the name of the Brazilian masses in the New York Times while residing a couple thousand miles from "the old country" seems, at the least, of questionable validity.
What the article lacks is historical perspective on American government and corporate interference, including the fomenting of coups and straight forward invasions, in the internal politics of Latin America. The current events in Brazil and Venezuela can only be parsed and, hopefully, understood in that context.
What the article lacks is historical perspective on American government and corporate interference, including the fomenting of coups and straight forward invasions, in the internal politics of Latin America. The current events in Brazil and Venezuela can only be parsed and, hopefully, understood in that context.
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To add to your comment, I as an Brazilian expat, find it worrisome that the NYT would cite the Server's comment as a testimonial w/o alerting the readers that he is in it to save his skin and his loot. NYT also fails miserably by implying that Dilma is a prisoner of a 'luxury castle' which is far from the truth since wherever she goes, where real Brazilians live and work, she is acclaimed as the hero. Her resolve was disclaimed in one of the tape recordings of Calheiros, Sen Pres, that she had a cold but would not budge, 'she is a very strong willed woman' to everyone's dismay, since the media was already disseminating she had lost the lust for the fight.
Besides all that, she is pissed with US involvement since Temer is an asset to US intelligence services alongside with senator Nunes whom BTW, came to kiss the bishop's ring in the DoS, the day after her removal.
Hard to believe that this is all being ignored by Pres Obama, since he wants to go in a positive note and will leave the whole of SA in a state of anger towards Americans so Big Oil Barons can get the hands on free oil and technology in a conflict free zone, to show to all in the world who is really in charge at home.
Besides all that, she is pissed with US involvement since Temer is an asset to US intelligence services alongside with senator Nunes whom BTW, came to kiss the bishop's ring in the DoS, the day after her removal.
Hard to believe that this is all being ignored by Pres Obama, since he wants to go in a positive note and will leave the whole of SA in a state of anger towards Americans so Big Oil Barons can get the hands on free oil and technology in a conflict free zone, to show to all in the world who is really in charge at home.
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Any Brazilian living abroad who still holds a Brazilian citizenship, an even those who does not for that matter, has a constitutional political rights, that is, to vote for his own representative or influence the political debate and elections outcome. Expatriates can vote for president at embassies as I and many Brazilians have done. In fact the voter turnout of Brazilians in NYC is impressive. Besides that, freedom of political expression is guaranteed both in Brazil and USA to everyone. So anyone living abroad can freely express and influence the political matters of his/her native country regardless of where and how long he/she is living abroad and it is perfectly legitimate and lawful.
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Nestor Cerveró is the Brazilian chemical engineer who testified against Mrs. Rousseff. Top executive of Petrobras from 1975 to 2014, Mr. Cerveró was identified as the author of a report that led the company to acquire, in 2006, a refinery (Pasadena Refining System) located in the United States - that deal, years later, showed that it would harm the company. According to the report of Petrobras' audit committee, concluded on 24 October 2014, Mr. Cerveró had omitted relevant information in presentations to the Executive Board and the Board of directors, which resulted in "substantial financial losses to us." In 2015, Mr. Cerveró became nationally known for his involvement in the so-called "Scandal of Petrolão"
On 14 January 2015, Nestor Cervero was arrested by the Federal Police, as a result of investigations of Operation Lava Jato, accused of involvement in the crimes investigated by Operation Lava-jato. Through a statement, the Federal Public Ministry said Mr Ceveró had his jail ordered saying that because "there is evidence that the former director continues to commit crimes and he may hide himself from Justice.
On 14 January 2015, Nestor Cervero was arrested by the Federal Police, as a result of investigations of Operation Lava Jato, accused of involvement in the crimes investigated by Operation Lava-jato. Through a statement, the Federal Public Ministry said Mr Ceveró had his jail ordered saying that because "there is evidence that the former director continues to commit crimes and he may hide himself from Justice.
This whole "impeachment" coup, has been lead by politicians who are involved in a gigantic bribery scandle, and now are working to stop or delay the investigations, starting with the head of the Chamber, who has now been thrown out of it (after he did his dirty work), and now the head of the Senate, who's just as corrupt. And let us not forget the Brazilian Supreme Court, which has and continues to cleverly maneuver to allow the impeachment of Dilma not to be stopped by any legal recourse. Yet the main thing behind this coup are those in the Brazilian upper classes, roughly 13% of the population and who have been furious that the poor has been empowered by the Workers Party, taken out of the desperation they lived in for centuries in Brazil, and are no longer willing to clean homes and cook and raise the kids of those better off, for meager salaries and endless hours.
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Let's make it clear. The only reason Ms. Rousseff has not been found to have embezzled herself is because they probably didn't look hard enough, or she hid it pretty well. I find it unbelievable when everyone around her is getting rich illegally, that she just did nothing about it. That's not credible.
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In May 2015, by decision of the federal judge Sergio Moro, Mr. Cerveró was convicted for passive corruption and money laundering and sentenced for 12 years and three months in prison.
On June 2, 2016, the statements of Mr. Cerveró were made public by the Supreme Court. He told Justices that the President Dilma Rousseff lied when she said she approved the purchase of the Pasadena refinery because she did not have complete information about the deal. Mr. Cerveró said also he ASSUMED that Mrs. Rousseff knew that politicians from Workers Party received kickbacks for the purchase of the refinery. In other testimony, in an agreement where the defendant agrees to denouce others implicated in the case in exchange for fewer years in jail to the Attorney General, Mr. Cervero said that in 2012, Senator Renan Calheiros (PMDB) called him in his Senate office to complain about the "lack of a bribe. ' On the occasion, the president of the house was José Sarney (PMDB). Source: Wikipedia in Portuguese.
On June 2, 2016, the statements of Mr. Cerveró were made public by the Supreme Court. He told Justices that the President Dilma Rousseff lied when she said she approved the purchase of the Pasadena refinery because she did not have complete information about the deal. Mr. Cerveró said also he ASSUMED that Mrs. Rousseff knew that politicians from Workers Party received kickbacks for the purchase of the refinery. In other testimony, in an agreement where the defendant agrees to denouce others implicated in the case in exchange for fewer years in jail to the Attorney General, Mr. Cervero said that in 2012, Senator Renan Calheiros (PMDB) called him in his Senate office to complain about the "lack of a bribe. ' On the occasion, the president of the house was José Sarney (PMDB). Source: Wikipedia in Portuguese.
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She should her last days in the luxury of her palace, for rumor has it that in secret even her party doesn't really want her back to the Presidency. Dilma is so bad that she would kill the chances for Lula in the 2018 elections. (Supposing that he will not be arrested until then.)
As for the "archaic Portuguese" used by Temer, most Brazilians are in fact very happy to listen to a President that can use proper plurals and verbal tenses - or even sentences that make sense, considering the absurdities that Dilma was used to say in her "speeches" and the gross gramatical errors that Lula spews even today.
As for the "archaic Portuguese" used by Temer, most Brazilians are in fact very happy to listen to a President that can use proper plurals and verbal tenses - or even sentences that make sense, considering the absurdities that Dilma was used to say in her "speeches" and the gross gramatical errors that Lula spews even today.
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the wiretapping of the corrupt conspirators for the coup in brazil included this about the president, their enemy:
'she is unbelievably brave!'
just before the impeachment, with the complot against her, her popularity was at 8%. during the process against her, her popularity doubled to 16%. Since the coup she has been at 33%. In her first 4 years she was the most popular president brazil ever had, at 90%.
The ultraconservative measures being implemented by the interim government would never been voted into office. They know that. That is the reason of the coup. But people have not accepted it quietly. to the contrary. there are protests every day. every intellectual, the minorities, the poor, or else, the majority of the country, are not taking this without protest.
'she is unbelievably brave!'
just before the impeachment, with the complot against her, her popularity was at 8%. during the process against her, her popularity doubled to 16%. Since the coup she has been at 33%. In her first 4 years she was the most popular president brazil ever had, at 90%.
The ultraconservative measures being implemented by the interim government would never been voted into office. They know that. That is the reason of the coup. But people have not accepted it quietly. to the contrary. there are protests every day. every intellectual, the minorities, the poor, or else, the majority of the country, are not taking this without protest.
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New York - NY / U.S.A
June 9th, 2016
Perhaps, "brave" should be indeed a word to be chosen in Brazil's territory to described people just like you, who has voted out fom a local federal welfare's office holding in your illiterate hands a monthly check in the amount of $ 21.41, and or exactly twenty-one 41/100 dollars worth it in food in order to benefited a legit mid 60's terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who was indeed physically trained at Cuba's Jungle under of the utmost repressive, depressive and undemocratic dictatorship regime ever in Latin America's history.
In other words, people like you are most certainly to be the main reason to why Rusev's spends a massive $ 27.3 million dollars in VIP coffee services per year, while Brazilian Citizens, who live in the northern region of Brazil are collecting leftover food from outdoor trash bins.
In must admit it to myself that you'd have the brimful rights for a golden hypocrisy grammy awards, and or perhaps as a form of my deepest appreciation.
June 9th, 2016
Perhaps, "brave" should be indeed a word to be chosen in Brazil's territory to described people just like you, who has voted out fom a local federal welfare's office holding in your illiterate hands a monthly check in the amount of $ 21.41, and or exactly twenty-one 41/100 dollars worth it in food in order to benefited a legit mid 60's terrorist and former urban guerrilla prostitute commonly known as Dilma Vana Rusev, who was indeed physically trained at Cuba's Jungle under of the utmost repressive, depressive and undemocratic dictatorship regime ever in Latin America's history.
In other words, people like you are most certainly to be the main reason to why Rusev's spends a massive $ 27.3 million dollars in VIP coffee services per year, while Brazilian Citizens, who live in the northern region of Brazil are collecting leftover food from outdoor trash bins.
In must admit it to myself that you'd have the brimful rights for a golden hypocrisy grammy awards, and or perhaps as a form of my deepest appreciation.
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This article is useful in that it helps put American corruption and political dysfunction in perspective: it is no more the end of the world here than it is the millennium.
What the article lacks is historical perspective on American government and corporate interference, including the fomenting of coups and straight forward invasions, in the internal politics of Latin America. The current events in Brazil and Venezuela can only be parsed and, hopefully, understood in that context.
What the article lacks is historical perspective on American government and corporate interference, including the fomenting of coups and straight forward invasions, in the internal politics of Latin America. The current events in Brazil and Venezuela can only be parsed and, hopefully, understood in that context.
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Hi Steve!
This article doesn't talk about many important things. First: there was no coup d'État in Brazil. The Brazilian Constitution says that in case of impeachment the Vice President, also elected by the people, should take charge. Mr Temer is not the better choice but is the only LEGAL choice we have until next elections. Second: Lower Chamber and Senate are the only institutions legally capable to judge the President. That's what our Constitution says. Even if a lot of politicians are corrupts WE MUST FOLLOW THE RULES. This is not a moral issue, a case for questioning, for instance, if a group of corrupts can or not point their fingers to Ms Yousseff or anybody else, as this article pretends.
This article doesn't talk about many important things. First: there was no coup d'État in Brazil. The Brazilian Constitution says that in case of impeachment the Vice President, also elected by the people, should take charge. Mr Temer is not the better choice but is the only LEGAL choice we have until next elections. Second: Lower Chamber and Senate are the only institutions legally capable to judge the President. That's what our Constitution says. Even if a lot of politicians are corrupts WE MUST FOLLOW THE RULES. This is not a moral issue, a case for questioning, for instance, if a group of corrupts can or not point their fingers to Ms Yousseff or anybody else, as this article pretends.
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right; entirely agree
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New York – FL / U.S.A
June 8th, 2016
In today’s world, terroeists, communists and socialists sympathizers such as Dilma Vana Rusev, along with their own mid 1990’s underground Sao Paolo’s Forum, included Cuba and Venezuela, who shares the same marxist criminal ideology as main daily agenda in order to validate it heir greed desires for power by surpassing, and subverting democracy standards to be use it as unique tool to tell their side of story told, in which a truth doesn’t make them sounds just like a legit pathological liars.
That also explains to why they have controlled their own local media stream, and it’s own outlets, and done it that way and away with freedom of speech in past and present times.
In resume, communism and socialism are indeed a siblings, and they’ll never change it in any circumstances, but indeed they just get better and better at lying.
June 8th, 2016
In today’s world, terroeists, communists and socialists sympathizers such as Dilma Vana Rusev, along with their own mid 1990’s underground Sao Paolo’s Forum, included Cuba and Venezuela, who shares the same marxist criminal ideology as main daily agenda in order to validate it heir greed desires for power by surpassing, and subverting democracy standards to be use it as unique tool to tell their side of story told, in which a truth doesn’t make them sounds just like a legit pathological liars.
That also explains to why they have controlled their own local media stream, and it’s own outlets, and done it that way and away with freedom of speech in past and present times.
In resume, communism and socialism are indeed a siblings, and they’ll never change it in any circumstances, but indeed they just get better and better at lying.
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No-one in Brazil credibly disputes that the PT (labour party) engineered an elaborate scheme to corruptly and illegally siphon money from public and private companies to its coffers and to the bank accounts of its members.
Ms. Rousseff and Mr. Lula before her, are the leaders of the party. They bear ultimate responsibility and both belong in jail for it.
The fact that those leading the campaign against her are also corrupt, does not invalidate the merits of the impeachment.
Ms. Rousseff and Mr. Lula before her, are the leaders of the party. They bear ultimate responsibility and both belong in jail for it.
The fact that those leading the campaign against her are also corrupt, does not invalidate the merits of the impeachment.
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Totaly agree. The only thing I don't understand is why NYT articles tended to reduce the impeachment issue to a moral questioning such as: Does a group of thieves can judge another bad guy (or a bad lady)? Does a weak politician like Mr. Temer can criticize the mistakes of Ms Rousseff? Or take her place? The real point is: she comited a crime. So huge that her partners couldn't hide and brazilians couldn't forgive. Brazilian Constitution says that she must be judged by Lower Chamber and Senate members, elected by the people. Corrupted or not they are the only ones who can do it . End of story.
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Except she is not being impeached for corruption in her party.
Well said! For 13 years Ms Rousseff's party and its comrades were palling around with the same corrupts that now they condemn. They put the Party before the interests of the Nation, and were willing to do "whatever it takes" to be in power. That said, let's follow the rules.
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In this article, Ms. Roussef cites Cicero, but here is a real passage in one of her many speeches that had puzzled Brazilians much more than the so-called "archaic Portuguese" practiced by the president in office: "Before, also the Indians died because of the lack of technical support. No longer today, since we own many riches." For those of you who can read Portuguese, here is the link that was published today and contains many of those "pearls," which must be preserved in some "museum of nonsensical politics."
http://oglobo.globo.com/cultura/se-dilma-voltar-19453579
http://oglobo.globo.com/cultura/se-dilma-voltar-19453579
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dilma becomes a victim until his mentor politician says he has regret having appointed as his successor, fall dilma was the Brazilian people, because dilma won with less 2% compared to the second place of the opposition candidate in the October election 2014 because dilma falls incompetence, stubborn, arrogant, she had no dialogue with the national congress, she made electoral larceny said one thing during the election campaign and two weeks after reeleitar, she did the opposite of what he said in the campaign was there which began slumping the beginning of his government.
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And she's accused, this week, by Mr Odebrecht, to ask illegal money to finance her campain, In the Palace and twice!
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dilma only won election with less 2% of votes against the 2nd placed opposition. dilma won in poor regions that Brazil's northeast region, based electoral larceny and today it proves the own poison.
dilma was yes quoted in the scandal at Petrobras refinery in Texas passadino. refinery cost 47 million dollars was sold for over 400 million, because most of that money was diverted inflated political party dilma with her signature on the authorization because dilma was administrative head of Petrobras. the own manager of Petrobras confirmed in a statement to police. dilma party was the most requested impeachment throughout history of Brazilian politics. talk scam is hypocrisy.
strategy of dilma is to make the victim, but the own former special adviser dilma, Thomas said in an interview BBC Brazil that dilma full responsibility in Brazil crisis even being alerted 2015. dilma start only think of wanting to stay in power, the boss the national police resigned calling dilma of "scrupulous".
dilma was yes quoted in the scandal at Petrobras refinery in Texas passadino. refinery cost 47 million dollars was sold for over 400 million, because most of that money was diverted inflated political party dilma with her signature on the authorization because dilma was administrative head of Petrobras. the own manager of Petrobras confirmed in a statement to police. dilma party was the most requested impeachment throughout history of Brazilian politics. talk scam is hypocrisy.
strategy of dilma is to make the victim, but the own former special adviser dilma, Thomas said in an interview BBC Brazil that dilma full responsibility in Brazil crisis even being alerted 2015. dilma start only think of wanting to stay in power, the boss the national police resigned calling dilma of "scrupulous".
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Why are many of the replies that disagree with the Times's coverage and appear to be from people who reside in Brazil of the same angry tone and style, attacking Mr. Romero for his ignorance when he has a long-time record of reporting current events in Brazil and references articles from the Brazilian press? Eerily similar to the types of pro-opposition comments running up to the impeachment proceedings...
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When somebody says silly things he deserves the critics. It's outrageous to feel sorry for a woman who did such a mess in our country. He has a lot of women to feel sorry for, such as: the ones who lost their jobs because of Ms Yousseff wrong doings, the girl who was raped by drugdealers in Rio, those who are dying at public hospitals because Ms Yousseff cut the Public Health budget.
it is Roussef not Youssef
Sorry I typed the wrong letter.
...archaic Portuguese? Temer speaks correct and elegant Portuguese. People have been exposed far too long to Dilma's bizarre and truncated interpretation of this beautiful language.
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But this article doesn't really make clear if these corruption charges are well-founded and made by objective sources, or if they're politically-motivated and made by political opponents! Or a combination of both?
A number of other articles, in various sources, similarly fail to clarify this. This seems typical of news coverage these days--it all gets reduced to "he said/no she said..." and readers are left wondering what to believe.
Surely, within the context of "objective" news coverage, a better job could be done to provide context and enable readers to evaluate competing claims? Oh, for the days of Walter Cronkite!
A number of other articles, in various sources, similarly fail to clarify this. This seems typical of news coverage these days--it all gets reduced to "he said/no she said..." and readers are left wondering what to believe.
Surely, within the context of "objective" news coverage, a better job could be done to provide context and enable readers to evaluate competing claims? Oh, for the days of Walter Cronkite!
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Actually she's responsible for a huge "black hole" on budget: some 160 billions reales (1 dollar= 3,49 reales todays exchange). I said ACTUALLY.
For some foreigners, who do not know, what the Left Party, in power for more than a decade, has done to Brazil, is kind easy to read a simple article, with some ideological concept, and ''buy'' that Ms. Roussef is a poor woman, impeached out of the blue.
She, and her party, have stablished the greatest corruption scheme ever seen, in our country. An advice, research on any subject, deeply, before make your mind.
She, and her party, have stablished the greatest corruption scheme ever seen, in our country. An advice, research on any subject, deeply, before make your mind.
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It's not true. The true corrupts are now in goverment.
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no no ! the worst corrupt is still in São Bernardo!
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Things only become more corrupt, never less. Over time Brazil will implode along with half of South America, there really is no stopping it. Rising oil prices will stem the tide, but it is inevitable. They will be the first domino to fall....
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Brazilian politics is like Guanabara Bay in Rio. Dilma was willing to swim in it and now complains that she is sick.
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To me this proves that Ms. Rousseff was right when she started kind of a ”clean hands” project; the big boys don’t want to lose their new toys and money on tap.
I hope she hangs on, she’s the elected president, not Mr. Temer. She has the mandate.
I hope she hangs on, she’s the elected president, not Mr. Temer. She has the mandate.
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I'm surprised you fail to understand that it would be hard to start a kind of a ”clean hands” project when she and her Party were some of the most corrupt politicians of all times - looting hundreds of billion for their campaigns and for themselves.
I must also provide you w some info you seem not to by privy of: Dilma actually tried to black/circumvent the corruption investigations by trying to give immunity to Lula by making him a minister. Millions went out to the street to protest against this blatant obstruction of the corruption investigations (Lava Jato).
Her hands are far from clean.
I must also provide you w some info you seem not to by privy of: Dilma actually tried to black/circumvent the corruption investigations by trying to give immunity to Lula by making him a minister. Millions went out to the street to protest against this blatant obstruction of the corruption investigations (Lava Jato).
Her hands are far from clean.
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She has nothing. She destroyed the country, she committed crimes. She deserves jail!
I'm not from Finland, I'm from Brasil. I know the truth, not the "Grenwald"'s version of it.
I'm not from Finland, I'm from Brasil. I know the truth, not the "Grenwald"'s version of it.
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Ms. Rousseff negotiated an illegal $3.5 million donation for her 2014 re-election campaign.
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I thougt 100% of NYT team was clever. But since this brazilian crisis I realized that the guys that cover it are not clever enough to realize what's really happening here. They criticize corruption and corrupts but, on the other hand, endorse the worst part of it: Ms Yousseff and her partners. They did the same things that Mr Maduro and his partners are doing in Venezuela. Endorse this wrong doings is a dangerous path. NYT lost credit among brazilian readers and local press. I'm not going to cancel my signature because I still like the Style section. Fashionists, indeed, are the best team of NYT.
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My understanding is that those who led the impeachment movement in the legislature are embroiled in a financial corruption scandal and that the impeachment was a way to block the investigations. She was impeached for doing some budgetary slight of hand ... so therefore Ronald Reagan should have been impeached too. Come to think of it, Reagan should have been impeached.
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Dilma's credibility is zero.
It is fair to say that she is a compulsive liar. In her first term, it was discovered that she had lied on her online CV, stating that she holds a master's degree in Economics and was a PhD candidate (in Brazil there is a centralized CV system for academia, which must be updated by all members). She hadn't even graduated from the masters.
Lies like this would suffice to depose a politician in Germany, where ministers have been fired for plagiarizing their PhD theses.
The article also makes it sound as if it were not so bad to steal for one's party. On the contrary! She has lead over all the major thieves (many already in jail), clearly knowing it all. All her moves had one clear objective: ensure that her party controlled our political system ad infiinitum.
It is fair to say that she is a compulsive liar. In her first term, it was discovered that she had lied on her online CV, stating that she holds a master's degree in Economics and was a PhD candidate (in Brazil there is a centralized CV system for academia, which must be updated by all members). She hadn't even graduated from the masters.
Lies like this would suffice to depose a politician in Germany, where ministers have been fired for plagiarizing their PhD theses.
The article also makes it sound as if it were not so bad to steal for one's party. On the contrary! She has lead over all the major thieves (many already in jail), clearly knowing it all. All her moves had one clear objective: ensure that her party controlled our political system ad infiinitum.
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"It is fair to say that she is a compulsive liar."
Just as the Clintons, both of them, are pathological liars who believe their own lies are always the truth.
Just as the Clintons, both of them, are pathological liars who believe their own lies are always the truth.
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Brazil's first mistake was transferring the seat of government to a sterile Brasilia. It's second mistake was clearing much of the rain forest for agricultural production. It's third mistake was electing a series of leaders who corrupted the country with self enrichment of themselves and their friends. It's fourth mistake was lobbying for and getting the Olympic games which they are obviously not prepared for, either with the required infrastructure or protection from the zeka virus carrying mosquitoes which are hungrily anticipating a lot of new foreign victims. Brazil needs to go back to military rule. it worked.
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Olympic Games will be held in the winter and the mosquitoes does not play and the rio de janeiro is far from the epicenter Which is northeast of Brazil. It is over 2000 kilometers away. Olympic Games of Rio de Janeiro is the cheapest of all three last editions and the budget stipulated que Followed strictly
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Who cares about mosquitoes when we have a political and economical tsunamis every day! Tourists should be worried with pickpockets, who are training to say "hands up! give me your money" in english.
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Rousseff and his party hurt millions of Brazilians - in particular the poorest ones - badly. They stole, they lied, and they destroyed the economy. It is impressive the sympathy she gets from the press after being removed from office in a transparent and constitutional process.
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And they kill! They killed Celso Daniel, Santo Andre mayor! They support distators like Maduro, Castro and Dilma is a former terrorist who hates the USA!
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NYC is cherry picking one of the two existing right sides. But people who knows the whole story very well knows that in this case both sides are right, or better, both are wrong. Being a liberal has no possible future if we keep trying to make square reality to fit in the round way we insist in thinking the world always should be.
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The parallels between Dilma and Hillary -Petrobras, the Clinton foundation is stunning. Will American voters learn from Brasil?
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What is the option? Voting for a Nazi madman? I prefer Clinton.
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Nope.
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Big difference. Millions and Millions of dollars have been wasted by people like you, and yet Hillary had never been found guilty of anything but not being a GOP white male . We can guess how you voted, Trumpster..
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Just Diilma's luck to be a leader of Brazil rather than the US. Here she would not be called corrupt, just a crafty politician adept in fundraising from giant corporations.
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Just the way HRC is a "crafty politician, adept in fundraising"
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It is amusing to read the NYT question the legitimacy of the Brazilian democratic process, which is being carefully scrutinized by the Supreme Court and is being carried out with great transparency, on live TV for all to see. The amusement is because the criticism comes from the land of extreme gerrymandering, where a President can get elected with a minority of popular votes after murky primary election processes.
Democracies are imperfect. Dilma Rousseff is a populist authoritarian leader, whose term in office will be defined by her many failures as a leader. Having lost the ability to govern, history would be kinder to her if she acknowledged her egregious mistakes and resigned. She has pledged not to do that but the millions of Brazilian losing their jobs as businesses brace for survival deserve better.
I wish foreigners worried about her well-being would be equally sympathetic to the Brazilians affected by her mistakes. Watching this pivotal moment in their democratic history, Brazilians should be proud to see their institutions working beautifully. The independence with which the police has conducted its corruption investigations against corporate and public sector practices would make Albany and DC blush.
The fact that many corrupt politicians are playing a role in ousting President Rousseff does not delegitimize the process. They will still have their day in court, as investigations progress. We are witnessing Brazil's strong democratic traditions at their best.
Democracies are imperfect. Dilma Rousseff is a populist authoritarian leader, whose term in office will be defined by her many failures as a leader. Having lost the ability to govern, history would be kinder to her if she acknowledged her egregious mistakes and resigned. She has pledged not to do that but the millions of Brazilian losing their jobs as businesses brace for survival deserve better.
I wish foreigners worried about her well-being would be equally sympathetic to the Brazilians affected by her mistakes. Watching this pivotal moment in their democratic history, Brazilians should be proud to see their institutions working beautifully. The independence with which the police has conducted its corruption investigations against corporate and public sector practices would make Albany and DC blush.
The fact that many corrupt politicians are playing a role in ousting President Rousseff does not delegitimize the process. They will still have their day in court, as investigations progress. We are witnessing Brazil's strong democratic traditions at their best.
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Same of yoy, NYT! I am Brazilian and we want, most of all, the end of a party domination and corruption on our companies, institutions and minds. Clearly, the majority of us are saying NO to Dilma and to PT. It is our first step to end the project of full domination in Latin America to the totalistic government (chavista like). OUT PT!! OUT DILMA!!!
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The New Right in Brazil - hanging on to the belief that an (undemocratic) change of hands will solve decades of rooted corruption...
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#byehoney
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So much dirt under her nose when she was Chairwoman of Petrobras. She was either complicit or stupid like a door knob.
Either way it doesn't qualify her to be President
Either way it doesn't qualify her to be President
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Or maybe she was mislead and fell in a trap set by Cervero, who now claims Dilma knew about the clauses he inserted unbenounced to anyone, as the logs of the Adm Counsel shows.
Everyone is throwing their crap on the fan these days in order to get away with their loots stashed away somewhere.
Everyone is throwing their crap on the fan these days in order to get away with their loots stashed away somewhere.
Mislead? C'mon, give me a break. The Chairwoman of the Board of one of the largest corporations in the world, Chief of Staff of the President, and President herself was mislead about the corruption going around her? If that's the case, she's not stupid like a door knob, but stupider than a door knob.
OMG--it's even more serious than anyone thought. According to Folha de S. Paulo, Brazil's Prosecutor General has just requested that the following be arrested on corruption charges: Congressman Eduardo Cunha (who started the impeachment proceedings in the lower house), Senator Renan Calheiros (President of Brazil's Senate, who's also a close ally of Temer), Senator & ex-Temer Cabinet member Romero Jucá (captured on a wiretap allegedly plotting to quash investigations of corruption), and José Sarney (the former President of Brazil)! All are from the PMDB, acting-President Temer's party!
Talk about a HOT MESS!
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/06/1779033-janot-pede-prisao-de-...
Talk about a HOT MESS!
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/poder/2016/06/1779033-janot-pede-prisao-de-...
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Arrest LULA!!!
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Must remember that the PMDB was a partner of PT for 14 years. They were friends you know? Really loved each other and made mafia bussines togheter. Became ennemies only after the divorce.
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This is a coup, but sadly, neither side's behavior has been unimpeachable. Dilma may not have personally profited from corruption, but it appears to have aided her reelection, and members of her party, who ran on an anti-corruption platform when Lula was first elected, appear to be awash in corruption.
Moreover, she and Lula established a governing pact with Michel Temer's party, and it too is clearly awash in grotesque levels of corruption, and should be NOWHERE near the presidency or in control of either house of Brazil's congress.
When you have politicians like Jucá allegedly plotting with the military and Supreme Court to quash investigations and avoid prosecution, you know these are people who should be behind bars.
One thing is clear: several senators, like Romário, have said they shouldn't have voted for impeachment. Maybe they'll wake up, realize that the Wall Street policies being imposed by the all-male, all-white cabinet, now embroiled in scandals of its own, are NOT what will address Brazil's pressing problems.
Let Brazilian voters remove Dilma in the next election by democratic means. And let them also keep the right-wing crooks out as well. If any Brazilian politician with uncorrupt hands who wants to really address the country's problems can emerge, she or he will soar to office when the next presidential election rolls around.
Moreover, she and Lula established a governing pact with Michel Temer's party, and it too is clearly awash in grotesque levels of corruption, and should be NOWHERE near the presidency or in control of either house of Brazil's congress.
When you have politicians like Jucá allegedly plotting with the military and Supreme Court to quash investigations and avoid prosecution, you know these are people who should be behind bars.
One thing is clear: several senators, like Romário, have said they shouldn't have voted for impeachment. Maybe they'll wake up, realize that the Wall Street policies being imposed by the all-male, all-white cabinet, now embroiled in scandals of its own, are NOT what will address Brazil's pressing problems.
Let Brazilian voters remove Dilma in the next election by democratic means. And let them also keep the right-wing crooks out as well. If any Brazilian politician with uncorrupt hands who wants to really address the country's problems can emerge, she or he will soar to office when the next presidential election rolls around.
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What's illigal about impeachment? There is no coup! Brazilian people can't take it anymore! Dilma, it is time to go!!
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Let her spend more billions on nothing for the next 2 years? no way Jose!
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Recently re-watching "Witness to Murder," I couldn't help but draw parallels to the current situation here in Brazil. Like the film's female lead, Ms. Rousseff was gaslighted out of office, name-called a "sore loser," delusional, and "overly aggressive" by an opposition who a) did not secure the necessary votes to win democratically in the last election, and have thus resorted to these dubious means, and/or b) want to protect themselves from being investigated for corruption charges, evidenced by the recently released tapes which record the Minister of Planning admitting to all of this, incriminating many of interim President Temer's main associates.
Despite this preponderance of revelations, which has clarified a murky course of events, there are people who continue to support the impeachment of Ms. Rousseff. Instead of reminding themselves of the basis for impeachment, which is founded on personal responsibility, they cite her low approval ratings, which are mostly a result of the general state of the economy, and serving for a time as a board member of Petrobras. Reasons which should make voters, of any country, wait to the next democratic elections to reconsider the reelection of a president.
But the middle classes want to see blood, now. And the opposition wants to reign in the government. So, they'll keep citing these reasons and scolding a "gringo press" that doesn't get its facts straight, since the Brazilian media is such a reliable authority.
Despite this preponderance of revelations, which has clarified a murky course of events, there are people who continue to support the impeachment of Ms. Rousseff. Instead of reminding themselves of the basis for impeachment, which is founded on personal responsibility, they cite her low approval ratings, which are mostly a result of the general state of the economy, and serving for a time as a board member of Petrobras. Reasons which should make voters, of any country, wait to the next democratic elections to reconsider the reelection of a president.
But the middle classes want to see blood, now. And the opposition wants to reign in the government. So, they'll keep citing these reasons and scolding a "gringo press" that doesn't get its facts straight, since the Brazilian media is such a reliable authority.
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If Ms Rousseff was USA president and caused all the caos in America's politics and economy, the NYT wouldn't support her wrong doings nor treating her as a poor woman victim of man's prejudices. Time will tell how wrong NYT is! You'll regret for that!
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They might is she was a Democrat.
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Ironic, it is very clear that Dilma was part of the corruption envolving Petrobras, indeed she was one of thoose who tried to stop the investigation over that scandal. This article needs more information, more than just repeat what the ex-president has said...
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A Presidential trial and Zika. What a nice lead-in to the Olympics.
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Really, she is a good and honest woman, that didn't know anything about of all bad thing that was ocurring in the Petrobras and in the Worker's Party.
She is almost a angel.
---angulaso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuGa6lHPUj0
She is almost a angel.
---angulaso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuGa6lHPUj0
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Are you being ironic? you must be....
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it's absolutely ludicrous that the columnist states that the new interimn President speaks archaic portuguese ! This is laughable and shows no knowledge of Brazil or the portuguese language itself - in fact and instead, for once after 13 years of Lula and Dilma, there is someone in office who can actually speak a good portuguese !
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The New York Times is quoting a Brazilian paper, Folha de São Paulo! Did you not see the link? Come on!
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/pasquale/2016/05/1772799-a-mesoclis...?
http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/colunas/pasquale/2016/05/1772799-a-mesoclis...?
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It's archaic Portuguese precisely because it is antiquated and not typical of speaking to a public body of diverse voters.
Also, even if you are Brazilian, your perspective on Brazilian history and currents events may not be the same as others, especially when it comes to what types of media you pay most attention to...
Also, even if you are Brazilian, your perspective on Brazilian history and currents events may not be the same as others, especially when it comes to what types of media you pay most attention to...
Quoting a Brazilian paper does not make it a truth ! The New York Times columnist should have reasearched better beforehand or before copying someone else's opinion and, if it had done so, it would have found out that statement was utterly incorrect and untruthful ! Incidentally, the article could have added, on the other hand, that Dilma was most of the times uncapable of holding phrases with any type of logical reasoning or sense whatsoever, especially when speaking impromptu.
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I'm sure one corrupt government will replace the current one. Same everywhere, little changes over the centuries.
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Refreshing that a country this large can impeach ( i hope) one of the glided ones. It is always funny when masters of the universe take credit for any good news under their sway, but when something corrupt comes to the surface , How can I be expected to know everything? We here in the USA could learn from exposing corruption, hear that K STREET?
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more funny too , that those behind the impeachment, a corrupt sexist cabal,are using her as scapegoat
refreshing nope business as usual yes
refreshing nope business as usual yes
Hang in there, Ms. Rousseff. The top 1% global financial elite are pulling all stops to try to get their radical-right operatives elected around the world so they can further exploit government treasures for personal profit and they go after strong women first. There is so much noise about corruption in Brazil that it's hard to know what is true. This much is true - Women around the world must step up and take one-half the power in all social and government categories if we are to stop the testosterone-fueled fear, anger, hate, war model the dominant religious male establishment pushes on us. THAT is the only true way to a more peaceful world.
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Excuse me - but this has nothing to do with being female or male - it has to do with implementing a system of corruption which she fully supported.
We shouldn't take this from any leader - of any gender, race, or creed.
We shouldn't take this from any leader - of any gender, race, or creed.
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Oh - yes - the 'top 1% global financial elite are pulling all stops'.
You should really consider consulting for Venezuela - a country where populism imposed a massive wave of value destruction and turned one of the wealthiest countries in Latam into a territory where the level of hunger and violence can only be compared to war torned nations.
That was the direction we were heading to under Dilma's lead. And that is why we, Brazilians, demand her impeachment.
Enough they-against-us demagoguery - we are united behind her impeachment - as we are for the Lava Jato anti-corruption process which is targeting politicians from all parties.
And if you knew a bit more about Brazil, if you had the minimal understanding of information - you would also be aware that this week the largest infrastructure company, Odebretch, testified that Dilma personally pressed them for bribes.
You should really consider consulting for Venezuela - a country where populism imposed a massive wave of value destruction and turned one of the wealthiest countries in Latam into a territory where the level of hunger and violence can only be compared to war torned nations.
That was the direction we were heading to under Dilma's lead. And that is why we, Brazilians, demand her impeachment.
Enough they-against-us demagoguery - we are united behind her impeachment - as we are for the Lava Jato anti-corruption process which is targeting politicians from all parties.
And if you knew a bit more about Brazil, if you had the minimal understanding of information - you would also be aware that this week the largest infrastructure company, Odebretch, testified that Dilma personally pressed them for bribes.
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What a curious comment. So men are the problem?
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Without Rouseff, the progressive values Brazil has achieved the past decades (gay rights, women rights and more) will be attacked. Backlash is what they call it.
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Excuse me - but this has nothing to do with being female or male - it has to do with implementing a system of corruption which she fully supported.
We shouldn't take this from any leader - of any gender, race, or creed.
Despite the massive scope of corruption - along all party lines - the Brazilian population would not support a backlash in progressive rights.
I'm not sure if you know that fr Amsterdam - but Brazil is one of the few countries in the Americas where over 50% of the workforce is female.
So enough of these demagogue theories.
We shouldn't take this from any leader - of any gender, race, or creed.
Despite the massive scope of corruption - along all party lines - the Brazilian population would not support a backlash in progressive rights.
I'm not sure if you know that fr Amsterdam - but Brazil is one of the few countries in the Americas where over 50% of the workforce is female.
So enough of these demagogue theories.
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Ms. Rousseff needs to either resign or be impeached. It's not necessarily related to corruption, as it is incompetence. Ms. Rousseff was never qualified to be the President of Brazil. She was an energy economist 20 years ago working for a magazine called Economic Indicators. She never showed any interest in politics until Lulu selected her to be his chief of staff. Her 'loyalty' to him, and her subsequent selection of him as Minister caused her to make a grievous error and open to obstruction of justice. She's arrogant, refused to listen to her closest aides, and had antiquated economic philosophies which has resulted in Brazil being close to default and recession. While she may have had knowledge of fraud and/or corruption caused by others in her administration and at Petrobras, it appears she was a victim of her own ignorance. Goodbye Dilma - you can no longer help your country - it would be best served if you resign.
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The rise and fall of Brazil's ruling coalition PT/PMDB of the last 14 years is providing an invaluable lesson to the country's young democracy.
Brazilians are now quite aware that politics, business and criminal organizations are a single entity.Very much in line with other countries in the Western Hemisphere and elsewhere.
As one Brazilian journalist aptly put it, Dilma's impeachment is the result of organized crime politicians fighting for lucrative business territory, controlled from the executive and legislative branches in Brasilia.
The puzzling question --for many Brazilians and foreigners alike-- is why a culture of hard work, honesty and law abiding citizens are prone to elect only corrupt politicians.
Brazilians are now quite aware that politics, business and criminal organizations are a single entity.Very much in line with other countries in the Western Hemisphere and elsewhere.
As one Brazilian journalist aptly put it, Dilma's impeachment is the result of organized crime politicians fighting for lucrative business territory, controlled from the executive and legislative branches in Brasilia.
The puzzling question --for many Brazilians and foreigners alike-- is why a culture of hard work, honesty and law abiding citizens are prone to elect only corrupt politicians.
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That's not true. She has been acused of corruption in Pasadena and receiveing money for her election from Odebrecht. The impeachment is legal and rightful.
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and a bunch of discredited corrupt legislators are leading the charge. They should get Gingrich as a consultant.
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Everyone agrees at its core the Petrobras corruption scandal was a clever plan created and executed by the PT to divide the stolen billions with almost every political party. The major parties accepted. Dilma is the leader of the PT. and she was previously the chairwoman of petrobras.
To believe that corruption on this scale could happen without her knowledge is naive.
It's simple: She either knew about the scheme and didn't prosecute the criminals, so she has to go. Or she's so incompetent that it happened right under her nose for years yet she was unable to detect it, so she has to go.
To believe that corruption on this scale could happen without her knowledge is naive.
It's simple: She either knew about the scheme and didn't prosecute the criminals, so she has to go. Or she's so incompetent that it happened right under her nose for years yet she was unable to detect it, so she has to go.
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I agree with Ginsburg and Simon comments below that Dilma is being impeached by the thieves for just moving government funds around from one account to another. Is that a "high crime" impeachable offense? The entire Brazilian political system is corrupt, they need to change entire party system and start putting the corrupt elected and nonelected officials in jai. It is the only way the U.S>. is able to make an attempt at public accountability.
And, the new president must do something to change the extreme class division and give hope to the majority who are still poor as Lula did to some degree. I admire the Brazilians as someone who worked and lived there for over 3 years.
And, the new president must do something to change the extreme class division and give hope to the majority who are still poor as Lula did to some degree. I admire the Brazilians as someone who worked and lived there for over 3 years.
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A first female President who subjectively circumvents rules and laws to secure information that she personally deems unnecessary for public consumption. Hmmm. And it's not her fault!
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Sounds like the Brazilian version of HRC and the Whitewater scandal.
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Who does that remind of you of?
Interestingly enough, it is the Labors Party - PT (the one to which Ms. Rousseff belongs to) that leads the number of calls to impeach– 50 in total were presented by them between the years of 1990 to 2002….it is curious that they find it so unfair at this time. No other president has stuck the country into such a depression. It is the population that is suffering a coup. Unemployment is knocking all doors…
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She is not trapped, being female means nothing! Perhaps a better leader wouldn't be impeached! How about we send Hillary and Bernie to the rescue!
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You clearly have no clue. Read up, then come back and comment.
Dilma and Hillary! Two peas in a pod.
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Indeed, "“How long is that madness of yours still to mock us?” Brazil and Dilma deserve justice, not a mockery of justice; she should be returned as president and all those thieves thrown out of office for their staggering corruption.
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Your're right. And there's no humiliation, in fact, but blatant injustice.
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The first female President Ms.Dilma Rousseff though guilty of fudging public accounts yet subjecting her to impeachment by her corrupt political opponents is not only a clever move to divert attention from their own scandalous deeds but also the palace coup of sorts.
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Modern day coup d' etat, need not send marines down, as local forces obey metropolis, and faked leaders could comply commands no questions asked.
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This is a national tragedy of a potentially great country strangling itself at the hands of petty power struggles among political Lilliputians where the plaintiffs are more culpable than the accused. Let us make our own choice to avoid such a noxious melodrama here at home. There's still time.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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Yes, shades of the vast right wing conspiracy to get rid of President Bill Clinton. We should have listened to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton back then and our country would still be run democratically for 99% of us instead of the top 1% Global Financial Elite who are also behind the Brazilian fiasco and other radical right movements around the world. It does not bode well for humanity.
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Ms Rousseff has obviously lost the confidence of a great number of Brazilians, which should in itself encourage her to step down.These ego driven politicians care more for their legacy than the country they represent.But then again who but an egotist would accept a job where half the population hate you.
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"Ms. Rousseff remains rare among major political figures in that she has not been accused of stealing for personal gain. Instead, she faces charges of manipulating the budget in order to hide the depths of Brazil’s economic woes." Sounds like SOP for national leaders - not grounds for impeachment unless multi-national corporations and their government lackeys decide they don't want reform and pesky environmental and labor regulations.
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Dilma's bravery should not be overlooked. Who doubts what the "gang of thieves"---as the linguist Noam Chomsky aptly described them---is capable of? Democracy everywhere has a tremendous debt to Dilma.
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Mr. Romero should move to Brazil and be the head of the Workers Party(PT) propaganda staff.The NYT head of editorial reporters must be more serious on what is written about other countries polítics. Articles like Mr. Romeiro give a 100% biased info about brasilian política, apparently it was written on "caipirinha" effects.
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Because the Brazilian press is so reliable, without conflicts of interest?
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so interesting how sensitive Mr. Marcio is regarding an American Newspaper op piece. Actually the only way to wrap our hear around this Brazilian mess is having some caipirinhas. What a shame all those BRIC s now are more like bric -a -brac...Brazil, Russia, India and China...corruption anyone?
It's a gang of thieves that is now running Brazil- a bunch of the most corrupt of the corrupt. As usual the oligarchy has installed their paid henchman in the presidential palace.. I have little concern for the tourists as much John Smith has- they can stay away. My worry is for the Brazilian people. As far as the olympics are concerned, of course cancel them, in fact, why not a boycott of Brazil as long was these gangsters remain in power.
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You have no clue what you are talking about. Stick to the corruption in your own country. I have family and friends in Brazil and follow very closely what is going on there. Although I wouldn't characterized the current politicians as saints, the process in place establishes for a much stronger and transparent government. Corruption in Brazil at the level we've seen in the past years will be close to impossible considering a much more active Federal Supreme Court and Federal Police (and media). Another thing, Helio Bicudo, disillusioned with the Party he helped to establish (yes, one of the most respected founders of PT!) was one of the main proposers of the current impeachment process based on the systemic corruption the PT (Workers Party) installed in the country. The country finally finds some hope that things will improve in a vastly popular impeachment. The entire process is following what is prescribed in the Constitution and it is far from being what has been characterized as a 'coup' by the corrupt PT government in order to gather international support.
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The worst gangsters were in power when PT was ruling....
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It seems like the NYT writers covering Brazil really understand the ills brought by corruption.
For the coverage itself is a corruption of truth: Somehow your articles covering the Brazilian impeachment always fail to note that hundreds of billions of dollar were looted by the ‘Party’ from Petrobras and other state companies. Oh – and by the way – that Dilma was on the board of the firm as while it occurred.
It fails to mention how she was part, and headed, a structure of systemic corruption – to bribe money for firms for their campaigns – well aligned to the format other populist governments in Venezuela, Bolivia, former Kichner in Argentina, etc.
Fails to note how she took away independence from the central bank and drove the economy to the ground with the Party’s unsustainable policy of populism where they were pretty much bought votes from the lower income population.
Fails to highlight that her approval rating was less than 10%!! And that the impeachment process was/is only possible because it is fully supported by the Brazilian people – who poured, in the millions, onto the streets to ask for her removal.
The NYT board should be more mindful, more factual about this coverage – which is incredibly disrespectful of truth and inconsiderate to the people of Brazil – we deserve better than this.
For the coverage itself is a corruption of truth: Somehow your articles covering the Brazilian impeachment always fail to note that hundreds of billions of dollar were looted by the ‘Party’ from Petrobras and other state companies. Oh – and by the way – that Dilma was on the board of the firm as while it occurred.
It fails to mention how she was part, and headed, a structure of systemic corruption – to bribe money for firms for their campaigns – well aligned to the format other populist governments in Venezuela, Bolivia, former Kichner in Argentina, etc.
Fails to note how she took away independence from the central bank and drove the economy to the ground with the Party’s unsustainable policy of populism where they were pretty much bought votes from the lower income population.
Fails to highlight that her approval rating was less than 10%!! And that the impeachment process was/is only possible because it is fully supported by the Brazilian people – who poured, in the millions, onto the streets to ask for her removal.
The NYT board should be more mindful, more factual about this coverage – which is incredibly disrespectful of truth and inconsiderate to the people of Brazil – we deserve better than this.
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It also fails to mention how utterly incompetent, arrogant and oblivious she is. She makes Mr. Bush look smart.
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All of this was "mentioned" and more. You are mistaken.
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I always find it impressive what right-wing propaganda does to one's mind.
The Times' (and Mr. Romero's) coverage of the impeachment process has gotten progressively better since their very unfortunate editorial a few months back.
The Times' (and Mr. Romero's) coverage of the impeachment process has gotten progressively better since their very unfortunate editorial a few months back.
Dilma is the corrupt leader of a corrupt government. Finally the cleaning up in Brazil has started. It took too long, but it has started.
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It's pretty clear what this is, the NY times should name it, it's effectively a right wing coup attempt, that could lead to massive violence in one of the already most violent countries on earth, the Olympics could be taking place in a country going through civil war
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Based on reports of the politcal situation, Zika outbreaks and the resulting danger to participants and fans at the games, ill-preparedness of some of the venues and levels of pollution, I believe the games should be cancelled or, at least, postponed.
The idea has been floated about having permanent homes for the summer and winter Olympics and apart from the tourism boost many countries enjoy for hosting the Games, it seems a good alternative.
The idea has been floated about having permanent homes for the summer and winter Olympics and apart from the tourism boost many countries enjoy for hosting the Games, it seems a good alternative.
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Dengue is more worrisome than zika, who is putting fear is the media for Brazilians in general no one cares about that. Brazil is having a regular life.
Brazil appears to be a nation of the Privileged, by the Privileged and for the Privileged. The people on the street are bribed with small favors--inadequate housing, a lack of mass transit, sub-standard education and health care, etc.
This leaves the bulk of the riches to those connected--and inter-connected--who have the wealth and the resources to live the Good Life. On the surface, the little guy does well--he eats, he lives, he survives. But, in the long-run, the little people are the pawns.
Brazil seems to be run for its Royalty--and Queen Dilma, above all--held sway. But, at least for now, she has fallen from her lofty perch.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
This leaves the bulk of the riches to those connected--and inter-connected--who have the wealth and the resources to live the Good Life. On the surface, the little guy does well--he eats, he lives, he survives. But, in the long-run, the little people are the pawns.
Brazil seems to be run for its Royalty--and Queen Dilma, above all--held sway. But, at least for now, she has fallen from her lofty perch.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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The Brazil economy has collapsed. There was a long boom due to skyrocketing commodity prices based on the Chinese demand. Brazil built multiple bubbles based on commodity prices with an investment boom in mining, a home price and construction boom and a government spending boom. All these booms have turned to bust. Well to do people have been reduced to penury. Dilma and her coterie were cheerleaders for the boom and took credit for it. It is only fair that they be held responsible for the bust. Americans are more forgiving of their Politicians, Central Bankers and Plutocrats or they would have strung them too.
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She fixed the electrical grid, but they don't even have a generator at the palace? Welcome to Brazil, soon home to the Olympics, complete with sewer grade waters and the Zika mosquito.
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Really, she is a good and honest woman, that didn't know anything about of all bad thing that was ocurring in the Petrobras and in the Worker's Party.
She is almost a angel.
Mr.Romero, are you speaking about Angela Merkel?
She is almost a angel.
Mr.Romero, are you speaking about Angela Merkel?
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It's a U.S. and European-backed coup d'etat...pure and simple.
Democracy in Brazil is over.
Long live corruption!
Long live Wall Street bankers!
Democracy in Brazil is over.
Long live corruption!
Long live Wall Street bankers!
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i am deeply sorry to tell you this is nonsense.. you are fully mistaken .
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Sir, you have no idea what a coup is. Those of us who lived through one, have a much better idea. This ain't it.
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You have no clue whatsoever Jon ! You should learn a bit more about politics and about Brazil, do yourself that favor... In fact Brazil is giving a lesson in democracy to the entire world by getting corrupt politicians and company executives to face justice and get sentenced to prison through the vigorous actions of Justice in special Judge Sergio Moro, the Federal Police and the General Attorney Office, In addition, it shows democracy at its best by ousting, as a result of the voices of its millions of people who massively and spontaneously took to the streets, ousting a weak, arrogant and incompetent leader (who incidentally only had 10% approval rating and caused the unemployment of 11 million people so far and brought the country to its bigger recession ever!), a president who "closed her eyes" to the highest level of corruption that ever took place in Brazil and which was institutionalized by Lula as well as her own party and government members ! There is no coup in place, it's an absolutely legitimate and democratic process following all the constitutional procedures and with the stamp of approval from the Supreme Court of Brazil !
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BOTTOMLESS PIT Seems to describe the well of political corruption in Brazil. More like the depths of Dante's Inferno more like. Seeing how most if not all named in the article have been found to have been smeared by the seemingly endemic corruption, what is the likelihood that the housecleaning is going to devolve into mud wrestling and wallowing in the blood and filth of universal corruption. Not only do top Brazilian officials stand accused of corruption, not a one of them named in the article has clean hands. What will it take to do the mucking out of the stables of their filth and putrefaction? More urgently, how can any traveler of any stripe, whether olympic competitor or tourist, know what to expect when visiting Brazil, with its government is crippled and unable to do anything at all regarding the onslaught of millions of visitors. In this political vacuum, I can envision gangs and crime syndicates having the time of their lives terrorizing and robbing tourists as wells all involved with the Olympics. What will emerge during the games will be unimagined chaos and terror in the streets. Better cancel and relocate!
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