Anybody who thinks Bernie isn't doing harm - including Bernie - is out of their mind. And for what, to change primary rules that as much favored Bernie with the caucus as favored Hillary?
Is that really worth the risk of a Trump win? In the end maybe its time people ask what Bernie really stands for because right now he's doing Trump's dirty work even better then Trump.
Is that really worth the risk of a Trump win? In the end maybe its time people ask what Bernie really stands for because right now he's doing Trump's dirty work even better then Trump.
586
The article superciliously assumes that Clinton has won the nomination. Some of us hope she hasn't.
The big question remains: would the democratic superdelegates prefer a loss with Hillary to a win with Bernie? Because that's their choice, nolens volens.
The big question remains: would the democratic superdelegates prefer a loss with Hillary to a win with Bernie? Because that's their choice, nolens volens.
382
I suspect if the press made a bigger deal about why Bernie Sanders refuses to reveal his tax returns or show how in the world Jane Sanders was named the president of Burlington College the Sanders bubble would pop. But for some reason, he's off limits.
325
This election is Hillary's to lose. Never, probably in the history of politics has a presidential candidate had more people dislike him more than like him then what has happen with Donald Trump "just 2 points lesser dislikes than when David Duke head of the KKK ran for office". The problem is that Mrs. Clinton is now running a close second in that dislike department. The positives for Clinton over Trump however is that for most part she has not made statements that have disparaged or discouraged people because of race, religion, sex or sexual orientation like Trump has. That I think has caused her and the Democrats to relax with the feeling that this will be a cake walk but as the polls now show this probably wont be and she and the Democratic special interest groups need to start hitting hard now. Do it before the GOP convention and put doubt in this nominee rather than wait till after the convention and he has momentum. Appeal directly to Sanders supports with ads NOW that show why any hesitation in supporting her could like lead to Trump being the next president "God forbid". Look to the past and do a update President Johnson ad that he did with Senator Goldwater to show what a maniacal, megalomaniac president could possibly do to the country and the world. Show how a guy who hasn't even had a dog catcher position in political public office could do irreparable damage to the office of POTUS, the USA and the world. Get going NOW before its too late.
107
Ms Clinton is insufferably presumptuous, that's my problem.
384
She has to be crystal-clear on the main issue: the corporate takeover of our political system, our electoral system and the urgent need to rescue Lincoln's "of the people, by the people and for the people" tenet, the basis of a fair and egalitarian society.
152
Anyone who saw Clinton's speech to mothers of victims of gun violence had enough of a reason right there to vote for her. Trump made outlandish and really heinous statements against her record, and she defended herself admirably. Put these two speeches up side by side, and then, you decide, who do you want in charge of your country? If you have a problem making this choice, then I suggest, the problem is not with Mrs. Clinton, it is rather with your own judgement.
482
For years, decades even, there has been a right wing echo machine spewing hatred and lies towards Hilary Clinton, so naturally people who do not know her have a negative opinion. But other than the people who watched the lengthy Benghazi hearings where a composed HRC endured the Republican fusillade and held her own, most people have not really seen her in action. I think when the general public sees HRC debate DT and learns she is a serious candidate with substantive ideas and can hold her own under attack (specially the inane, below the belt insults trump will hurl at her), there will be a paradigm shift of opinions in her favor. I'm terrified of a trump presidency, but I truly believe that HRC will prevail.
270
Based on what I see from Sanders supporters, this is shaping up to be another 2000 election, when Ralph Nader dead-enders in Florida gave us George W. Bush, 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, and the Great Recession.
Unfortunately, a Trump presidency could be worse.
Unfortunately, a Trump presidency could be worse.
231
Part of the problem is that Bernie and his wife have not been fully vetted. No one talks about the fiasco at Burlington College that they drove into bankruptcy while Mrs. Sanders got a hefty $200K severance.
235
When faced with a terrorist attack, e.g. another 911, I would feel much more secure with Hillary Clinton at the helm than Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. Is she super exciting? No, but in my mind, "exciting" is not a quality I look for in a President. Sure, she could crap all over people like Donald Trump does but she would be cast as a "mean girl." Should she talk about the size of her breasts? Does that make her more appealing, more like Donald? Or she could snarl and shout at the crowds like Bernie Sanders does? No, people would call her an overbearing you-know-what. Hillary has ideas. But she also has a sense of realism as well as a sense of how to get things done across the aisles. Pie in the sky ideas are a dime a dozen and I feel both Trump and Sanders pander to that crowd. Hillary may not be exciting but she is steady and that is good enough for me.
327
Trump is quite likely the worst major party nominee in modern times...or maybe Hilary is. Terrible, awful, unlikeable and dishonest - quick - who am i describing?
107
If Clinton wants to win for herself, she can continue being opposed to Sanders.
If Clinton wants to win for all Democrats and leaning Democrat voters, she should team up with Sanders.
If Clinton wants to win for all Democrats and leaning Democrat voters, she should team up with Sanders.
99
Tired of hearing that Sanders should quit the race because he's making Clinton look bad. If your candidate only looks good as a candidate without intra-party competition, then maybe you picked the wrong candidate.
Votes are earned, not owed. And Clinton will have high unfavorable ratings whether or not Sanders is involved. That was never going to change. The DNC picked a terrible candidate and that is not Sanders' fault.
Votes are earned, not owed. And Clinton will have high unfavorable ratings whether or not Sanders is involved. That was never going to change. The DNC picked a terrible candidate and that is not Sanders' fault.
606
Unlike Trump and Sanders, Clinton has no vision for America. Hillary is the best manager, but the nation is in the mood for a leader who will create change for the better. Most Americans have not recovered from the The Great Recession and they are worried and angry. More of the same will not do.
232
People are starting to understand the lies behind Hillary's establishment politics and question themselves as to why, other than her gender, she should be trusted, she can't be.
195
Clinton was a seriously flawed candidate in 2008 and failed to win the nomination. Today, having taken 100's of millions in cash from sheiks, wall street, etc, having pushing fracking around the globe as SecState, and being under an FBI investigation, she's an even worse candidate. Her failings and problems are of her own making, not caused by Sanders. Consolidation and winning independents seems unlikely
390
"If I were in a swing state, a state that matters, and the choice were Clinton or Trump, I would vote against Trump. And by arithmetic that means hold your nose and vote for Clinton."
Noam Chomsky
Noam Chomsky
121
Maybe Hillary thinks she doesn't need the Sanders voters. Polls indicate that to be a tactically unwise thought. So far she has shown very little effort in trying to win them over. Mimicking his positions won't do it. Perhaps not dancing in the end zone by claiming victory before it's achieved would be a good first step.
221
All i say is that all of us in the non trump contingent had better get our act together.
I remember when many equated Gore and Bush. Look how that turned out: an unmitigated disaster on every level. Anyone who gets so blinded by their Hillary Hate (tm) that they help Trump get into office: history will not forgive you.
I remember when many equated Gore and Bush. Look how that turned out: an unmitigated disaster on every level. Anyone who gets so blinded by their Hillary Hate (tm) that they help Trump get into office: history will not forgive you.
170
The number one reason is consolidation behind Trump. The #NeverTrump crowd seems to have been diminished and replaced, in a large part, #AnyRepublican -- no matter how poorly qualified or potentially dangerous as a leader.
Then there's the problem of the Sanders supporters, who have yet to produced a rational argument for Bernie to keep hanging on. They can't win, they can only be destructive. Recently it's been suggested that Clinton will own the nomination before California polls close -- New Jersey polls will close first. It will be over then. The notion that superdelegates supporting Hillary will switch short of Sanders winning a majority of pledged delegates is absurd. The inability of Berniebots to understand that Hillary has taken virtually all the states which represent large population centers as well as Florida and Ohio, is, as they say, mind-boggling.
Finally, Bernie's running well against Trump but Bernie hasn't had to deal with a Republican onslaught yet. NO Republican wants to attack Bernie now. They want him to do as much damage to Hillary as possible.
Sanders voters insistently point to his running ahead with Independents. Yes, but he's running far, far, far behind with Democrats. This is the nominee of the Democratic party. Everyone fears Bernie supporters staying. Far more dangerous would be Hillary supporters staying home.
Then there's the problem of the Sanders supporters, who have yet to produced a rational argument for Bernie to keep hanging on. They can't win, they can only be destructive. Recently it's been suggested that Clinton will own the nomination before California polls close -- New Jersey polls will close first. It will be over then. The notion that superdelegates supporting Hillary will switch short of Sanders winning a majority of pledged delegates is absurd. The inability of Berniebots to understand that Hillary has taken virtually all the states which represent large population centers as well as Florida and Ohio, is, as they say, mind-boggling.
Finally, Bernie's running well against Trump but Bernie hasn't had to deal with a Republican onslaught yet. NO Republican wants to attack Bernie now. They want him to do as much damage to Hillary as possible.
Sanders voters insistently point to his running ahead with Independents. Yes, but he's running far, far, far behind with Democrats. This is the nominee of the Democratic party. Everyone fears Bernie supporters staying. Far more dangerous would be Hillary supporters staying home.
143
Your mistake is in using data and suppositions based on 2008 or 2012. This is the year of Donald Trump, for Pete's sake. This is the year that a 74 year old socialist Jewish man has given the anointed, establishment backed Clinton a shock to the political system. HRC who has all the money, the media, consultants, name recognition, resume - is struggling to put away Sanders. It was supposed to be a cakewalk, but it isn't.
The mistake that the establishment parties and their corporate backers made was that they got to overtly greedy, too obviously contemptuous of the people of this country. The jig is up in the eyes of millions of disaffected, struggling Americans. They've heard more than their fill of false promises. They've watched this theatre of the absurd many times over. All the canned responses, the calculation, the outright lies. They've seen the rich and corporate America scoop up all the gains of the "recovery." Watched the "liberal" Obama cater to the banks and bail them out while they were foreclosed on and their children buried under mountains of student debt. Worked the gig jobs and struggled to pay the rent.
Sanders didn't cause any of this. He's an easy target, but he's not the cause of HRCs difficulties. Without him, people would have stayed home and tuned out in disgust like they did in 2010 and 2014, and she would have limped along to the finish line. Largely, Sanders voters are not part of the Party. Unity is a partisan delusion.
The mistake that the establishment parties and their corporate backers made was that they got to overtly greedy, too obviously contemptuous of the people of this country. The jig is up in the eyes of millions of disaffected, struggling Americans. They've heard more than their fill of false promises. They've watched this theatre of the absurd many times over. All the canned responses, the calculation, the outright lies. They've seen the rich and corporate America scoop up all the gains of the "recovery." Watched the "liberal" Obama cater to the banks and bail them out while they were foreclosed on and their children buried under mountains of student debt. Worked the gig jobs and struggled to pay the rent.
Sanders didn't cause any of this. He's an easy target, but he's not the cause of HRCs difficulties. Without him, people would have stayed home and tuned out in disgust like they did in 2010 and 2014, and she would have limped along to the finish line. Largely, Sanders voters are not part of the Party. Unity is a partisan delusion.
296
If it comes down to Clinton vs Trump, I will decline to vote.
Either one is a disaster!
Either one is a disaster!
95
I also do not like the way this is going and also believe it is Sanders' fault. He seems to be doing his best to fracture the democratic party.
He strikes me as petulant and utterly selfish.
He strikes me as petulant and utterly selfish.
218
I know many Sanders supporters who say they're determined to vote for Trump, "after Mrs. Clinton wins the nomination," as Nate Cohn puts it. These Sanders supporters are disgusted with the Democratic Party's "superdelegates," with the party's officials, and with its rigged system favoring Hillary Clinton. They're also repelled by the mainstream media bias towards Mrs. Clinton, and by all the cash she's received from banks, Wall Street hedge funds, and corporations - as opposed to Sanders's support from millions of ordinary voters. It remains to be seen if that disgust and repulsion is dissipated in time for the election in November.
175
In the latest ABC Poll, I was very surprised to see that 15% of people who voted for Obama would vote for TRUMP, whereas only 6% of Romney supporters would vote for Clinton. To me, that suggests that regardless of Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton is having a hard time getting more liberal voters, probably because her cozy relationship with Wall Street. I really don't know how Clinton will be able to change this dynamic--perhaps one way would be to finally release those transcripts of speeches to Goldman Sachs. Here is the poll: http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1177a1ClintonTrump.pdf
167
When Hillary met with Al Sharpton and BLM members she couldn't have done a bigger favor to Trump.
27
lessee: Trump can concentrate on his message because he has no internal competition: check
Clinton and Sanders are still duking it out and she is still competing against Sanders while also responding to Trump: check
I don't think "unifying the party" is really the issue yet.
Clinton and Sanders are still duking it out and she is still competing against Sanders while also responding to Trump: check
I don't think "unifying the party" is really the issue yet.
36
It shouldn't be a mystery. As reported in the Times, in the last month Mrs. Clinton has been moving to the right, trying to court anti-Trump republicans: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-republican...
And I think she's finding that Republicans still don't like her, and Sanders supporters have found their suspicions of her true nature to be confirmed.
And I think she's finding that Republicans still don't like her, and Sanders supporters have found their suspicions of her true nature to be confirmed.
445
Hillary will come around again in the polls, as suggested, but she needs to keep working on empathy, humor, and tone of voice. She's still shouting at us and it's not pleasant.
It doesn't matter whether a man can do that and a woman can't; she doesn't need to change societal attitudes, she needs to win the election.
It doesn't matter whether a man can do that and a woman can't; she doesn't need to change societal attitudes, she needs to win the election.
32
Just a subtle reminder regarding the November election. We already know one of the choices is Trump. The other choice is most likely going to be Clinton. You may not like your choices, but you still have a responsibility to use your vote wisely. Those who would otherwise support the Democratic candidate, but choose not to vote for this one are helping elect Trump.
99
Hillary will win this election and by a wide margin. Once she is crowned the Democratic nominee you will see more and more people warming up to her, especially when they look at the alternative. She may not be the dream candidate people are standing with this election but I am convinced she will get more done than any other president in the last 20 years.
110
The answer is simple: Trump represents something typical Americans can relate to. Hillary is dwelling in the elitist, intellectual clouds where Mitt Romney lived in the last election. Who won that one?
96
Many of the Sanders supporters are not Democrats or even "liberals". Some, who in the end would vote for the fascistic Trump, are mostly interested in tearing apart American politics itself and just starting over. The latter are actually anarchists. Some of these people whom the Sanders campaign has attracted are as dangerous to the health of the nation as Trump supporters.
Sanders attracted these people, and it is up to Sanders, as the leader of his "movement", to move them away from this nonsense.
It remains to be seen if Sanders is up to this kind of leadership.
Sanders attracted these people, and it is up to Sanders, as the leader of his "movement", to move them away from this nonsense.
It remains to be seen if Sanders is up to this kind of leadership.
113
I think I know why. If fans of Mr Sanders felt he had lost fair and square, they would be more than happy to throw their support behind Mrs Clinton, like her or not. The trouble is that they feel that the system was rigged and Bernie Sanders did not get a fair deal. Quite the contrary, they feel that his candidacy was suppressed. And there was one thing people don't like: the lack of fairness in a competition. The only reason why Bernie Sanders fans would not vote is to send a strong signal to the DNC never to do this again.
237
Before anyone even considers not voting for Hillary, assuming she is the Democratic nominee, read a history of the rise of the 3rd Reich and Germany/Europe in the 1920s and 1930s!
91
National polls are worthless.
Swing state polls are priceless.
I'm as liberal as they come and while I like Bernie's ideas, he's writing checks he can't cash. Hillary on the other hand, is only promising to do nothing but carry on Obama's not particularly good legacy.
Therefore I would prefer trump as it's the only chance we got to rid ourselves of bad trade deals and romneycare. Or Obamacare as it's known as now. The marriage to the insurance cartels that put the middle class's nards in a vise.
Swing state polls are priceless.
I'm as liberal as they come and while I like Bernie's ideas, he's writing checks he can't cash. Hillary on the other hand, is only promising to do nothing but carry on Obama's not particularly good legacy.
Therefore I would prefer trump as it's the only chance we got to rid ourselves of bad trade deals and romneycare. Or Obamacare as it's known as now. The marriage to the insurance cartels that put the middle class's nards in a vise.
45
The answer is there for all to see, though many Clinton supporters appear to be in an extreme state of denial: Clinton is the personification of Washington DC corruption. Where, for example, are the Wall Street speech transcripts, which Clinton justifies not disclosing by cynically using the late Justice Scalia's Citizens United "quid pro quo" logic? Many seem to have forgotten Justice Stevens' dissenting Citizens United opinion that the mere appearance of a conflict of interest is illegal.
329
It's not really difficult to see why Clinton is doing so poorly. She's always had the appearance of being a smug big money candidate with self-interest as her main objective. A large segment of the population is completely fed up with the same old same old. and see nothing but a corrupt political (Democratic and Republican) system continuing. If anything, I see Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate as a credible alternative, one which the Times and most media have been totally ignoring.
195
Bernie has fallen in love with his own image. Even for a flinty curmudgeon, the risk of self-amplification, pumped up by screaming, adoring fans, seems to be strong.
I don't want to judge him because I am not in his shoes. But I will just say that it's clear to me that Bernie's ego (and judgment) have gotten swollen by the adulation, to the point where he could easily damage the very causes he has dedicated his life to.
For me, at least, Bernie Sanders has lost the very thing that most appealed to me originally: his integrity and dedication to a mission larger than himself. I call that tragic.
I don't want to judge him because I am not in his shoes. But I will just say that it's clear to me that Bernie's ego (and judgment) have gotten swollen by the adulation, to the point where he could easily damage the very causes he has dedicated his life to.
For me, at least, Bernie Sanders has lost the very thing that most appealed to me originally: his integrity and dedication to a mission larger than himself. I call that tragic.
217
But has Sanders really lost the thing that appealed to you most? Perhaps the status quo DNC is part of what he aims to change, and the best way to change that is to walk into the convention with leverage.
Seems to me this is far more about strategy than ego.
Seems to me this is far more about strategy than ego.
114
At this point in the election cycle, Hillary seems to be getting hit with unfavorable dynamics similar to what the ACA "enjoyed". The right opposed it for what it did, and a significant bloc on the left opposed it because it isn't single payer. Between the two, it was hard to get a net favorable rating. That same, Green/Occupy left bloc is almost impossible for her, or any centrist, to please.
And, it's also kept her from reaching out to center right independents and persuadable Republicans because she still seems to hope she can enlist Sanders supporters in some kind of progressive groundswell. Alas, I think all that's out the window after the turn Bernie took about a month ago when he began painting her - and now the Democratic party - as corrupt. She already has her Nader and he's all the more dangerous for having snuck inside the tent.
And, it's also kept her from reaching out to center right independents and persuadable Republicans because she still seems to hope she can enlist Sanders supporters in some kind of progressive groundswell. Alas, I think all that's out the window after the turn Bernie took about a month ago when he began painting her - and now the Democratic party - as corrupt. She already has her Nader and he's all the more dangerous for having snuck inside the tent.
69
Agreed. Reasonable Bernie voters and they are in the majority, will vote for Hillary when it comes down to the wire. The rest are fanatics and therefore unreachable. After the nomination, she should cut her losses and reach out to the center.
72
If Donald Trump wins this election, and he may well do so, there will be some who will claim that Sanders' supporters, one way or the other, stabbed Sen. Clinton in the back, and are somehow responsible for the disaster that will (not may) come.
That is pernicious nonsense now, and it will be pernicious nonsense in November. If Hillary Clinton loses this election it will be because she is the least liked candidate the Democratic Party has ever put forward, a poor campaigner, inflexible and entitled, and vulnerable on a host of policy issues.
Consider the following polls from "Real Clear Politics," a site that aggregates all the professional polls.
Clinton v. Trump
RCP Average Trump +0.2
Sanders v. Trump
RCP Average Sanders +10.8
That's right, Clinton loses to Trump in a nailbiter (at least in the popular vote,) and Sanders thrashes the Great Orange Hope of the Peckerwoods.
This primary is not being "stolen" from the Sanders campaign, Clinton is winning by three million popular votes. While Schultz's behavior has been reprehensible, and she should be fired summarily, and the party leadership deserves the contempt that the Sanders camp is hurling at it, there is little reasonable argument against the proposition that Clinton is the choice of her party.
If Donald Trump wins this election, it will be because the Democratic Party - NOT Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or the Superdelegates - the Democratic party AS A WHOLE, chose the one candidate that Donald Trump could beat.
That is pernicious nonsense now, and it will be pernicious nonsense in November. If Hillary Clinton loses this election it will be because she is the least liked candidate the Democratic Party has ever put forward, a poor campaigner, inflexible and entitled, and vulnerable on a host of policy issues.
Consider the following polls from "Real Clear Politics," a site that aggregates all the professional polls.
Clinton v. Trump
RCP Average Trump +0.2
Sanders v. Trump
RCP Average Sanders +10.8
That's right, Clinton loses to Trump in a nailbiter (at least in the popular vote,) and Sanders thrashes the Great Orange Hope of the Peckerwoods.
This primary is not being "stolen" from the Sanders campaign, Clinton is winning by three million popular votes. While Schultz's behavior has been reprehensible, and she should be fired summarily, and the party leadership deserves the contempt that the Sanders camp is hurling at it, there is little reasonable argument against the proposition that Clinton is the choice of her party.
If Donald Trump wins this election, it will be because the Democratic Party - NOT Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or the Superdelegates - the Democratic party AS A WHOLE, chose the one candidate that Donald Trump could beat.
277
I think there's a lot of unnecessary panicking going around. When Bernie Sanders concedes and throws his weight behind Hillary Clinton we will see that change. The enmity between them is already softening as Mr. Sanders can now appoint 5 of the 15 committee members, Mrs. Clinton will appoint 6, and thankfully, DNC Chair DWS will only appoint 4, where she could have appointed all 15.
But Secretary Clinton must focus on the base, on voter registration and participation, and in convincing a higher percentage of Sanders voters that Donald Trump will finish the destruction of the Republic that GW Bush& co nearly brought about.
Perhaps the fastest way is to continue to make certain key concessions to Bernie Sanders in return for his support. Regardless of the Sanders campaign, there really is no way for him to win the nomination. Sec Clinton needs less than 100 delegates and she's sure to get at least that many in California, no matter how well Sanders does.
But if Clinton continues to waste time and money swinging right to try to get unhappy Republicans and Trump-independents, she's chasing a will'o'th'wisp to destruction. Bernie Sanders is actually leading the way and blazing the trail for Clinton to win and win big in November.
But Secretary Clinton must focus on the base, on voter registration and participation, and in convincing a higher percentage of Sanders voters that Donald Trump will finish the destruction of the Republic that GW Bush& co nearly brought about.
Perhaps the fastest way is to continue to make certain key concessions to Bernie Sanders in return for his support. Regardless of the Sanders campaign, there really is no way for him to win the nomination. Sec Clinton needs less than 100 delegates and she's sure to get at least that many in California, no matter how well Sanders does.
But if Clinton continues to waste time and money swinging right to try to get unhappy Republicans and Trump-independents, she's chasing a will'o'th'wisp to destruction. Bernie Sanders is actually leading the way and blazing the trail for Clinton to win and win big in November.
53
So many people are listening to Bernie's campaign and by comparison, the Secretary is insufferable. Her arrogance and smug posturing are just insufferable. And that's from me in her demographic. Plus it is true that millenials (sample population my grandson) think their second choice is The Donald. Not all of the millenials think that way because many are highly interested in the environment and making it cost effective to save the habitat.
The idea that Bernie has 46 percent of pledged delegates and 7 percent of super delegates makes this the worst of all possible times for the Democrats. I will soon change my registration to Independent. I have to belong to one of the two major parties to vote in the Oregon primary. That done and counted, I can go back.
There's almost nothing the Secretary can do for me to vote for her. She lacks the consciousness to even understand what she has done in Honduras, and, in fact, I think the president and vice president are enjoying the same lack of understanding.
With that said, Trump can be understood to be making a kind of sense. Sadly.
The idea that Bernie has 46 percent of pledged delegates and 7 percent of super delegates makes this the worst of all possible times for the Democrats. I will soon change my registration to Independent. I have to belong to one of the two major parties to vote in the Oregon primary. That done and counted, I can go back.
There's almost nothing the Secretary can do for me to vote for her. She lacks the consciousness to even understand what she has done in Honduras, and, in fact, I think the president and vice president are enjoying the same lack of understanding.
With that said, Trump can be understood to be making a kind of sense. Sadly.
178
Trump never makes sense. He continually contradicts himself within the same sentence.
57
Most American's desperately want big money out of politics. They also don't want extremists. Hilary Clinton was a staunch Barry Goldwater supporter in college.
Extremism in defense of big money is a vice.
I'm in California. If my memory serves me right, the last primary election that wasn't declared by and large a done deal by our June primary was 1968. People are feeling pretty sour around here, and big media's appointing of a Goldwater activist as the Democratic nominee several months ago doesn't help.
Democracies that don't have a left-right balanced political orientation perish. Its not just opportunity at stake. Our basic survival is at stake.
We can't survive another eight years without a direct challenge to the fraud of Reaganomics. Get big money out of politics now.
Extremism in defense of big money is a vice.
I'm in California. If my memory serves me right, the last primary election that wasn't declared by and large a done deal by our June primary was 1968. People are feeling pretty sour around here, and big media's appointing of a Goldwater activist as the Democratic nominee several months ago doesn't help.
Democracies that don't have a left-right balanced political orientation perish. Its not just opportunity at stake. Our basic survival is at stake.
We can't survive another eight years without a direct challenge to the fraud of Reaganomics. Get big money out of politics now.
145
Being approximately the same age as Hillary, a progressive since college, and a fervent Sanders supporter, I was also a Goldwater supporter in high school. What did I know about politics? The libertarian line seemed appealing at the time--but I was quickly radicalized during my time at Columbia and supported
Eldridge Cleaver on the Peace and Freedom ticket in 1968.
Eldridge Cleaver on the Peace and Freedom ticket in 1968.
38
Hillary Clinton was not a staunch supporter of Goldwater in college, she was a junior in HS when Goldwater ran, and deeply influenced by her parent's politics before going to college. If you would fault her for her views at 16 you have issues!
74
"In April, Mrs. Clinton held between 71 and 82 percent of Mr. Sanders’s supporters; today it’s between 55 and 72 percent."
How do you presume that Sanders supporters are "held" by Mrs. Clinton? People are held in jail. People are held by loved ones when they are hurting. They are never "held" by a politician, particularly one that defines everything to loathe about politics!
Bernie Sanders himself is not likely to convince me to vote for her. The only reason many of us registered as Democrats rather than an Independent was to vote for Sanders in the primary.
The Independent minded voters will decide this election and Mrs. Clinton has indicated nothing to lead us to think she will fix any of what is terribly broken. Such as the healthcare insurance fraud we've been forced to endure and told it isn't what it is. Such as bank fraud. And above all else the corrupting influence of dark and shady money in politics. She's disqualified to even address the issue. Don't even try.
If the choice is Trump or Hillary it's like Syria. Neither side is good. Sorry.
Sanders. 3rd party. Because the other two are awful.
339
Are you old enough to remember the situation viz. Al Gore and Ralph Nader?
52
Why don't you go to her Web site where she carefully lays out her solutions?
53
It bothers me that many current polls just assume that Clinton is the nominee. They only ask about or take seriously such a match-up as a done deal. As this article does. What if it turns out (before the Democratic Convention) that Senator Sanders could in fact be a much stronger candidate against Trump than Hillary? What then would Democratic delegates decide to do?
117
The Electorate seems to split 45/45 for Democrat/Republican.
Then the other 10 % leans one way or the other.
Trump should pick a Latina Vice President, act Presidential and let
Hillary shoot herself in the foot by her condescending comments toward
Trump/Republicans/Sanders and the vast majority of Americans.
Then the other 10 % leans one way or the other.
Trump should pick a Latina Vice President, act Presidential and let
Hillary shoot herself in the foot by her condescending comments toward
Trump/Republicans/Sanders and the vast majority of Americans.
46
Mrs Clinton needs to make a coherent argument that clarifies past positions with current positions--that should solidify her support among main stream and more liberal democrats. Here's the position:
In the past 30 years, US per capita GDP has risen by 30%. The forces of globalization and automation have made the nation better off (as a whole). However, the fruits of this progress have not been shared equally. Nor have the costs of this progress been born equally. In most cases, those how have born the greatest cost have seen no benefit and those few that have seen the most benefits have not born any costs.
100% of this gains have gone to the top 4%. 50% of these gains have gone to the top 1%. Meanwhile, the average worker's pay, when adjusted for inflation is worth just slightly less than 30 years ago. And, the cost of housing, health insurance and education are all increasing faster than inflation. Bad news for the average American.
The Smart thing to do would be to stay the course of globalization and automation. It has made the nation better off (as a whole).
The Fair thing to do would be to share both the costs and benefits of Globalization and Automation more equally.
So, Mrs (and Mr) Clinton, free trade agreements were the right choice. Now we need to tax those who benefited most to provide Education, Vocational Training and Infrastructure improvement projects (jobs).
In the past 30 years, US per capita GDP has risen by 30%. The forces of globalization and automation have made the nation better off (as a whole). However, the fruits of this progress have not been shared equally. Nor have the costs of this progress been born equally. In most cases, those how have born the greatest cost have seen no benefit and those few that have seen the most benefits have not born any costs.
100% of this gains have gone to the top 4%. 50% of these gains have gone to the top 1%. Meanwhile, the average worker's pay, when adjusted for inflation is worth just slightly less than 30 years ago. And, the cost of housing, health insurance and education are all increasing faster than inflation. Bad news for the average American.
The Smart thing to do would be to stay the course of globalization and automation. It has made the nation better off (as a whole).
The Fair thing to do would be to share both the costs and benefits of Globalization and Automation more equally.
So, Mrs (and Mr) Clinton, free trade agreements were the right choice. Now we need to tax those who benefited most to provide Education, Vocational Training and Infrastructure improvement projects (jobs).
62
Many of Bernie's supporter are angry with establishment, not necessarily convinced leftists. If Bernie quits now they would feel betrayed and switch to Trump. If Bernie persists till official nomination date but still in minority, makes Clinton accommodate a substantial part of his platform, he could turn around and advice supporters to vote for Clinton in order to stop Trump. He would almost guarantee Clinton's victory in general election. He could convince his backers that if he were to run as independent, he would put Trump in White House.
40
Historically, Republicans are a united group while Democrats are fractious. Some of this is a win-at-all-cost, party first attitude within the GOP. Some of it is that the Democratic Party tries to be inclusive, which can make unity among differing factions difficult.
32
Not surprising at all. This development is partly a result of Trump consolidating his power, but it's also a consequence of pushing Clinton, a singularly weak and vulnerable candidate, as the inevitable nominee. On top of her lack of charisma, on top of the fact that there's an unappealing sense of entitlement to her candidacy, on top of the fact that she symbolizes the past rather than the future, on top of her unfavorables which are only marginally better than Trump's, Clinton is looking at various indictments, various scandals. None of this is good for the Democrats.
Sanders' only "fault," really, is that he has been unexpectedly successful as her opposition. He doesn't have to throw in the towel in order to allow Clinton a victory lap. Let the likes of Wasserman-Schultz realize that we have moved beyond the 1990s, and that many of us are sick of Blue Dogs and their center-right policies.
Sanders' only "fault," really, is that he has been unexpectedly successful as her opposition. He doesn't have to throw in the towel in order to allow Clinton a victory lap. Let the likes of Wasserman-Schultz realize that we have moved beyond the 1990s, and that many of us are sick of Blue Dogs and their center-right policies.
394
Clinton had her chance and her day. It was 2008. She lost. What's that line about doing the same thing and expecting different results?
196
#Bernieorbust
64
Hillary is taking shots from all sides. The right wing slime machine is going full blast, Trump is hurling his standard hate filled bombast and Sanders is tripping out on a personal senseless vendetta against her. Top that off with the national and cable news compulsive carping and sniping. Even Mother Theresa would have negative ratings in this environment.
126
Hillary Clinton is a far cry from mother theresa. She makes Bernie Madoff look like the pope.
68
Never before has an election been more about voting AGAINST one candidate than voting FOR one. I can only hope that if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee that Bernie Sanders, who has contributed so much to the discussion, fights for planks in the party's platform, but most importantly, urges the 33% of his supporters who vow they won't vote for Hillary to not sit on their hands and allow Donald Trump to win the election. I fervently hope that he urges them all to "hold their noses" if they must and vote Hillary for President.
31
If we don't send a clear message to the DNC, they will be satisfied with giving us lackluster, milquetoast candidates that are JUST A HAIR closer to our political philosophies than the Republicans.
Now, we have to decide whether to break it, allow it to fall into chaos so that people can see the harm of these hateful, ridiculous religious and selfish ideologies of the Republican party, or whether to passively resist just enough to keep the most ludicrous parts of it from becoming law.
This nation is an oligarchy, and both parties' establishment has gotten us to this point. I would rather pull the band-aid off quickly than allow this party to languish in meaningless and milquetoast half-measures and partial solutions as Mrs. Clinton suggests.
Am I a radical weirdo for thinking that a political system that RELIABLY fails to support the interests of the people the very second that an opposition is formed from a moneyed concern needs to be reformulated, and not just with tiny adjustments but with radical changes? I suppose I am.
Now, we have to decide whether to break it, allow it to fall into chaos so that people can see the harm of these hateful, ridiculous religious and selfish ideologies of the Republican party, or whether to passively resist just enough to keep the most ludicrous parts of it from becoming law.
This nation is an oligarchy, and both parties' establishment has gotten us to this point. I would rather pull the band-aid off quickly than allow this party to languish in meaningless and milquetoast half-measures and partial solutions as Mrs. Clinton suggests.
Am I a radical weirdo for thinking that a political system that RELIABLY fails to support the interests of the people the very second that an opposition is formed from a moneyed concern needs to be reformulated, and not just with tiny adjustments but with radical changes? I suppose I am.
55
Trump is the Republican nominee who entertains millions daily with his belligerent incoherent ramblings. Hillary on the other hand is receiving brutal attacks from both Sanders and the Donald. Bernie has not received any serious bashing from anyone. It is not hard to understand why at this point in time Clinton is sagging.
64
Sanders now is running a shameful campaign, based almost entirely on innuendo, anger and hate, with a dash of misogyny and condescension thrown in...
Strangely, on the issues, they agree on much and she has, smartly and correctly, moved 'left' on some.... But many of his proposals have been fantasy or are counter-productive...
Why does he need to condemn rather than simply disagree ? Because on nuanced discussions of the issues he gets creamed. He's a shouter, an arm-waver, a 'prophet'!!! I get it...
Until fairly recently I thought his positive contributions outweighed his negatives, but he now seems off the reservation, unable to shift to contributing from the expectation of winning.
Come back Uncle Bernie.... you need not be a casualty of the election... That's the role of Trump and Trumpism...
Strangely, on the issues, they agree on much and she has, smartly and correctly, moved 'left' on some.... But many of his proposals have been fantasy or are counter-productive...
Why does he need to condemn rather than simply disagree ? Because on nuanced discussions of the issues he gets creamed. He's a shouter, an arm-waver, a 'prophet'!!! I get it...
Until fairly recently I thought his positive contributions outweighed his negatives, but he now seems off the reservation, unable to shift to contributing from the expectation of winning.
Come back Uncle Bernie.... you need not be a casualty of the election... That's the role of Trump and Trumpism...
157
You are falling into the trap of media's narrative of Bernie. Go attend one of his rallies, if you can't, listen to one. http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/bernie-sanders-santa-monica-california-ral...
71
You are not hearing his campaign. Bernie's that is. It is the only thrilling display of consistency and truth happening this year. Sorry you are missing out on it. Our Empire doesn't seem ready for it. So maybe it is just a campaign.
67
We always have a hard time blaming ourselves. The recent news of how the use of the internet has changed the way we think is a start. We don't want long detailed responses. We don't want to think. For example; why would free college be good? The huge debt owed may be the next financial crisis, but eliminating the debt for others doesn't employ people. Graduates debt is a problem because a college education didn't bring jobs. More degrees won't either.
27
There's another way to look at Hillary's slump. In America, bad-boy Tom Sawyer beats old scold Aunt Sally, hands-down, every time.
Hillary's a loser; she needs to get out, and let Democrats unite behind a Biden/Warren ticket (with Sanders' enthusiastic support) -- yes, even at this late date. Otherwise, Trump will mop the floor with her -- perhaps even with an approving wink at Bill for getting a little on the side.
The problem isn't Bernie's ego; it's Hillary's. Hillary wasn't anointed by God to be America's first woman President; for that, Warren has the right appeal and the right agenda, and now just needs the right exposure.
Let's hope Hillary can acknowledge her weaknessses, and quits while there's still time -- for the good of the nation!
Hillary's a loser; she needs to get out, and let Democrats unite behind a Biden/Warren ticket (with Sanders' enthusiastic support) -- yes, even at this late date. Otherwise, Trump will mop the floor with her -- perhaps even with an approving wink at Bill for getting a little on the side.
The problem isn't Bernie's ego; it's Hillary's. Hillary wasn't anointed by God to be America's first woman President; for that, Warren has the right appeal and the right agenda, and now just needs the right exposure.
Let's hope Hillary can acknowledge her weaknessses, and quits while there's still time -- for the good of the nation!
126
Geez, 3 million voters and counting seems like a pretty convincing argument that Hillary is popular among Democrats, especially minorities and women. Once Bernie accepts the idea that he lost and joins forces with Hillary to beat Trump, her numbers will go up and all will be well.
58
Hillary has already completely alienated Progressives, she has nobody to blame but herself when she loses.
142
Because when a progressive doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee, it says so much about their commitment to the environment, raising the minimum wage, appointing liberal judges to the Supreme Court, civil rights, etc.
67
She's disingenuous and untrustworthy at best; at worst she's only in this election for the presidential legacy and her place in history as first female president. She offers nothing and represents no change except perhaps in the wrong direction.
170
Many democrats don't trust her. They view her as an insider as well. Those are just important as her not being able to woo Sanders voters
81
I don't want to comment on the subject of your article, but rather the way you wrote it. I find the level of respect you showed each candidate by consistently referring to them as "Mr." and "Mrs." extremely refreshing. Too often I read articles written by lesser writers filled with commonly-used first and/or last names at best, and disparaging nicknames at worst. Not here. Whatever bias you may have (if any) is completely absent, and the result is a well-written, informative piece that should be the model for all other political articles. Well done, Mr. Cohn.
24
Maybe she should have thought twice before smearing him repeatedly over the past several months (especially when he started to gain ground). The most egregious smear I remember was telling people that Bernie's plan for single-payer would result in people LOSING their health insurance during a contentious debate. Not only a bold-faced lie, but a shameless disingenuous smear. There are several such examples. No surprise that his supporters aren't automatically warming to her.
288
Of course it means they will lose their health insurance, i.e. the health insurance they currently have, which for most people is provided by their employer. It is anyone's guess how that would play out, but the very unclarity of it would make it a sure loser in a national election against the Republicans. Secretary Clinton is absolutely correct about the facts and about the likely political risks for the Democratic Party in an election that it absolutely must win.
56
Do you truly believe that most working people in this country have healthcare provided by their employers at no out of pocket cost? Your friends and acquaintances are a very select group.
45
If we do not elect Clinton...ho, ho, ho. no merry christmas this year (or next, also).
14
Clinton is a consummate politician and if there's one thing this election cycle has proven it's that many of the people of this country are sick and tired of the status quo. They have been lied to and cheated by both sides of the same oligarchical coin for too long and they refuse to get in line for more of the same which is why Clinton will never gain their support.
287
But if people don't support Clinton that means that a proven congenital liar and racist, Donald Trump will be in the WH instead.
32
Spoken like a true naive Trump supporter with no real interest in politics. Status quo is a much used term that has no relation to Hillary or the Democratic party. Avoiding nasty comments does not make a person interested in keeping things the same. I can assure you that Trump is not a consummate politician and some other candidates are also clearly not, but they entertain much more than Hillary does. This generic lied to and cheated by both sides is really pretty silly. Does Paul Ryan also lie to you, is Mitch McConnel a cheater?
15
I agree with you I'm voting for Bernie Sanders and whoever becomes Potus I feel sorry for America. This is the worst election I have ever been a part of no wonder I don't want to vote.
37
When Clinton secures the Democratic nomination, whether after the last primary or at the convention, Sanders will finally accept that she is the nominee and loudly and strongly support her. At least he better. The overwhelming majority of his supporters should vote for her.
I'm not happy with the change in the Sanders campaign. He's more combative and failed to clearly and unequivocally condemn the aggressive behavior of his supporters in Nevada. I supported Sanders but am disappointed he's no longer taking the high road. The Democratic party must unify behind Clinton so she can crush Trump in November. The United States must show the world we haven't gone off the deep end.
I'm not happy with the change in the Sanders campaign. He's more combative and failed to clearly and unequivocally condemn the aggressive behavior of his supporters in Nevada. I supported Sanders but am disappointed he's no longer taking the high road. The Democratic party must unify behind Clinton so she can crush Trump in November. The United States must show the world we haven't gone off the deep end.
249
It is mind-boggling to me that Clinton's unpopularity rivals Trumps. I am no great fan of Hillary Clinton, but Trump is a ignorant, racist narcissist.
There are times that I feel embarrassed to be a white male. This is one.
There are times that I feel embarrassed to be a white male. This is one.
416
Too much is being made of Bernie as some kind of a "spoiler". If anything, he has brought some sense into the Democratic party and hopefully they will remember the lessons Howard Dean taught them. In 2004, Dean lost to the establishment-favorite Kerry for various reasons, but he had fired up a base of young people who ended up not bothering to vote because Kerry/Edwards were trying to be corporate democrats, Republican-Lite. Obama learned those lessons and ran an issues based campaign, unapologetic about his priorities such as leaving Iraq & Afghanistan, Affordable Healthcare for all, etc... no matter what the criticism was. Dean, as DNC Chair had built a 50-state strategy which helped Obama. In all fairness, Bush-Cheney fatigue certainly added a boost.
Hillary has depended far too much (as she did in 2008) on the suits - know-nothing know-it-alls for whom the masses are a nuisance, All answers are in the data and in the expert class, a bunch of over-educated groupthinking fools who have managed to lose the House and Senate convincingly in the middle of a HUGE Liberal Revolution in the populace (Full Marriage Equality in all 50 states, acceptance of Climate Change in majorities in all 50 states, Pentagon, Corporations, acceptance of need for Gun Culture Reforms in all 50 states.)
Once again the Republican-lite crowd is ruining it for the Democrats. If wonkery was so good, MSNBC would be toprated, not Fox. People want passion, ideas and vision. Hillary better get some.
Hillary has depended far too much (as she did in 2008) on the suits - know-nothing know-it-alls for whom the masses are a nuisance, All answers are in the data and in the expert class, a bunch of over-educated groupthinking fools who have managed to lose the House and Senate convincingly in the middle of a HUGE Liberal Revolution in the populace (Full Marriage Equality in all 50 states, acceptance of Climate Change in majorities in all 50 states, Pentagon, Corporations, acceptance of need for Gun Culture Reforms in all 50 states.)
Once again the Republican-lite crowd is ruining it for the Democrats. If wonkery was so good, MSNBC would be toprated, not Fox. People want passion, ideas and vision. Hillary better get some.
496
I am concerned that Bernie Sanders supporters, or a very visible number of them, are rigid, angry, uninformed and even obtuse. Their terribly negative view of Hillary Clinton seems to be shaped by the GPO and talk radio propaganda campaigns, not by Sanders' ideology. They sound like Trump supporters and may vote for Trump, out of hate and immaturity. I have no doubts that at the very least they say they would vote for Trump in a Clinton-Trump match-up when responding to polling questions, so as to convey the notion that Sanders is a stronger candidate. I don't like the way this is going and it is Sanders' fault. In his transparent ways Trump panders to Sanders people and they can hand him the presidency, which will be unconscionable. Let's hope that Sanders takes steps to support Clinton. Right now, stupidity reigns.
384
We Bernie supporters don't all agree with all his platforms. Some, like universal medicare, free tuition for all and free trade opposition are among them.
What unites us, and why most of us will not support Hillary, is that we are fed up with rampant corruption in about every aspect of life in these here United States. We are fed up with buying votes by the rich and ugly. We are fed up with the carried interest tax exemption by the billionaire hedge fund managers, and tax evasion by the rich in general. We are fed up with wall street criminality and lack of accountability of same. We are fed up with declaring war on innocent countries just to buy us more votes in the ensuing climate of jingoistic hysteria. So go puff on that for a bit.
What unites us, and why most of us will not support Hillary, is that we are fed up with rampant corruption in about every aspect of life in these here United States. We are fed up with buying votes by the rich and ugly. We are fed up with the carried interest tax exemption by the billionaire hedge fund managers, and tax evasion by the rich in general. We are fed up with wall street criminality and lack of accountability of same. We are fed up with declaring war on innocent countries just to buy us more votes in the ensuing climate of jingoistic hysteria. So go puff on that for a bit.
161
So you're not a Bernie supporter but just against Hillary. Why don't you just say that? Hope you enjoy Trump as your president.
19
Me, too! I am still wondering what Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC have been doing for the past eight years. None- the- less, I CANNOT vote for the party that will nominate 2-3 supreme court justices to overturn Roe v Wade, to put a gun in anybody's hands on college campuses, or other aspects of the Republican party platform.
29
Having totally misread the country's interest in D Trump, it is not so surprising to see Nate Cohn afflicted with a similar ailment regarding Clinton ie not understanding why people find her repulsive. First Trumo has been in the news much more than she has and people seem to enjoy it. It has become obvious, then, that Mrs. Clinton is terribly boring, a type of political nerd that always does her homework but that is incapable of finding anything original or motivating to say. The stark contrast brought to light what is needed for the country: a person with extraordinary ambition, who can can transform the country and give it a new life. Second, Mrs. Clinton has be outflanked by two contenders who do much better than she does on that subject. Mrs Clinton doesn't have any vision to transform the country, she just wants to keep things as they are, and be the cherry on top of the cake. As this seems to be clearer as the debates progress, fewer people get excited about that prospect. It's really having cold feet because you've just met someone much better than your fiancee. All this is quite simple, yet Mr. Cohn seems to have a very difficult time understanding something that the average american gets without effort. Nate Cohn should stop studying poll numbers and talking to experts and instead get out and meet real people. It's less fancy, but he will learn more.
240
My goodness. There is no hope here. Damning Hillary because she merely gets the job done. Folks, we don't need a showman in the White House , we need a Statesman.
53
Somebody ought to ask the electorate whether they've had enough hope and change, or they'd like some more change please.
15
A case could be made that Sanders is, in fact, a Trump mole: Two grumpy old men, each with a simplistic 1-dimensional message, each refusing to condemn violence by their own supporters, each endorsing virtually unlimited access to deadly weapons, and neither with a track record of accomplishing anything at all in the complex world of politics.
I would not be surprised in Don J[uan] Trump tried to recruit the Bern as his VP. Think of us: for Sanders, revenge; for Trump, a chance to out-flank Clinton on the left.
I would not be surprised in Don J[uan] Trump tried to recruit the Bern as his VP. Think of us: for Sanders, revenge; for Trump, a chance to out-flank Clinton on the left.
79
I attended a Sanders rally last weekend. The crowd there were passionate and enthusiastic and HUGE. More to the point, Bernie made it very clear that the main goal was to defeat Trump in the General election. The speaker(s) prior made it clear it was not "Bernie or Bust", it was "Bernie and Beyond". Finally, "Dump Trump" and "F---- Trump" t-shirts were doing brisk sales, and the crowd repeatedly cheered a couple of kids who were carrying "Dump Trump" placards while seated on their Dad/Granddad's shoulders walking the area in front of the bleachers.
Now those are the facts, reality. You can get back to your normal programming of imaginary stuff.
You want inflammatory, here is something Bernie's people could have used - "Democrats, here's your choice. Sanders or Panders!!!" Now that would be inflammatory, wouldn't it? Keep things in perspective folks. Let's keep our passion for ideas and vision, not personalities.
Now those are the facts, reality. You can get back to your normal programming of imaginary stuff.
You want inflammatory, here is something Bernie's people could have used - "Democrats, here's your choice. Sanders or Panders!!!" Now that would be inflammatory, wouldn't it? Keep things in perspective folks. Let's keep our passion for ideas and vision, not personalities.
55
Presidential polls at this time of years have been shown to be extremely erred and not indicative of the eventual winner. These polls just become something to talk about during the lull prior to the conventions.
55
Lillian,
This is untrue. Polls at this time have been quite predictive in the past. Take for example 2012: ABC News/Washington Post Poll May 17-20, 2012
Obama: 50
Romney: 45
(pretty much it)
There are many examples from 2012 and earlier of early polls being quite prescient, if not always exact. I urge you to look at these and not rely on candidate's talking points or commentators affected by their subconscious biases. In terms of this article, I think he is quite correct in some of his conclusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_...
This is untrue. Polls at this time have been quite predictive in the past. Take for example 2012: ABC News/Washington Post Poll May 17-20, 2012
Obama: 50
Romney: 45
(pretty much it)
There are many examples from 2012 and earlier of early polls being quite prescient, if not always exact. I urge you to look at these and not rely on candidate's talking points or commentators affected by their subconscious biases. In terms of this article, I think he is quite correct in some of his conclusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_...
10
I don't find this mysterious at all. Hillary Clinton is being challenged by Trump, Sanders, conservative news media and the G.O.P. All are seeking to paint as negative an opinion of Clinton as possible. Bernie Sanders has done the most damage in seeking the Democratic nomination. This pseudo Democrat has divided the Party, and forced Clinton to spend time and resources which could better have been spent on defeating Trump. What Sanders has done has given Trump an edge he didn't have, had he already been out of the picture.
If Sanders takes his challenge of Clinton to the convention as he has vowed to do, even though he does not have the delegates needed for the nomination, and the convention ends in an uproar and bitterness, the damage to Clinton and the Democrats Sanders has done may become permanent. It will be up to this man to decide exactly what the point of all the sturm and drang was if it results in the election of Donald Trump. If he unites behind Clinton and urges his supporters to do the same for the greater good of the country, then healing can begin, and Clinton should receive a boost in popularity. If he does not, then the disarray in the Democratic Party will most likely result in Trump being our next President. One other thing. The Republicans have already started putting away their contempt for Trump and are closing ranks behind him. Even the odious Cruz stepped aside to make way for the obvious presumptive nominee. Sanders should do the same.
If Sanders takes his challenge of Clinton to the convention as he has vowed to do, even though he does not have the delegates needed for the nomination, and the convention ends in an uproar and bitterness, the damage to Clinton and the Democrats Sanders has done may become permanent. It will be up to this man to decide exactly what the point of all the sturm and drang was if it results in the election of Donald Trump. If he unites behind Clinton and urges his supporters to do the same for the greater good of the country, then healing can begin, and Clinton should receive a boost in popularity. If he does not, then the disarray in the Democratic Party will most likely result in Trump being our next President. One other thing. The Republicans have already started putting away their contempt for Trump and are closing ranks behind him. Even the odious Cruz stepped aside to make way for the obvious presumptive nominee. Sanders should do the same.
258
She is doing a very poor job of differentiating herself from a run of the mill pro-business centrist.
No wonder liberals or independents don't support her.
No wonder liberals or independents don't support her.
30
Even if Sanders steps aside, I fear that he has created something he can no longer control.
25
Repubs can unite because they share their worship of corruption. Dems can't, because one of the candidates shares that worship whereas the other is determined to combat it. So your comparison is absolutely inapposite.
31
As of now, no comments yet. Just wait. Prepare for Rima, Larry, Socrates, and the rest of the Bernie spam team to inundate this comment section with long, hyper researched diatribes about the merits of Bernie and the demonic qualities of Clinton. They hyperventilate like overworked college professors angry that the general culture doesn't worship at the altar of their brilliant rightness. Because spamming every last bit and byte of these online articles is going to convert someone to the rightness of L Ron Sanders.
285
Clinton supporters should begin to work very hard to convince Democrats and Independents whom they will need in November that Clinton will not sign more working class damaging treaties, like the TPP, and that she will not continue forever war. If I felt at all confident on those two issues, I would not hesitate to vote for the first woman president, even if she is a lousy campaigner with miserable righteous nagging supporters.
83
How does not voting for Hillary in the fall, help the working class? Or women, minorities, the environment, the poor? Just asking!
68
... with comments like this, it's such a puzzle why the Sanders folks aren't moving over to support Clinton.
38
This is not too hard to figure out. Her supercilious attitude and her problem with giving a clear and concise answer to important questions, as well as, her flip flopping on issues has not enamored very many voters.
521
Here is a link to Hillary's stand on the issues. Hope this clears up some of the questions you have.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
31
Wow, projecting Trump's qualities on Clinton much? Trump has flip flopped on every single issue: taxes, abortion, guns, military use, immigration...every single one. Clinton has been fairly consistent on all of those.
32
Here's a concise answer: we're going to build a wall.
2
Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on Epstein's Lolita Express where he has taken a frontal position on the war on women, especially very young women. This is payback for President Clinton's pardon of mega-tax dodger Epstein. Just another chapter in the Clintons' history of sleaze, the Bonnie and Clyde of government influence peddling.
105
And Donald Trump cheated on two wives. And put Americans out of work when his companies went bankrupt. And his clothing line is manufactured in China. Your point is???
47
So here we go... to the same meme of the past 20+ years...innuendo and personal issues that have nothing to do with governance. The GOP, not having issues/policies to defend, always return to the lowest denominator...mud slinging. It is a new generation..so some of the redox dirt might again stick..but Trump is such a walking negative, that all of the mud at the bottom of all of the oceans might not be enough
34
The GOP kept having hearings on Benghazi and Hillary's emails while ignoring the fact that G.W. Bush Responding to congressional demands for emails in connection with its investigation into the partisan firing of eight U.S. attorneys in 2007, the Bush White House announced that as many as 5 MILLION EMAILS, covering a two-year span, had been lost. The emails had been run through private accounts and a "server" controlled by the Republican National Committee. 5 million emails up-in-smoke ... WHERE IS THAT INVESTIGATION?
Once again .... nobody "polled" me.