Just remember, fellow readers, that however the authoritarian regime in China manifests its brute power, that we, as Americans, through our corporations' massive FDI or even our purchases of Made in China goods, are in large measure responsible.
And, yes, China's accession to first GATT then the WTO was shepherded by venerable members of the ABA working for our corporations and trade groups like the Chamber of Commerce.
Doesn't that make you all warm inside?
And, yes, China's accession to first GATT then the WTO was shepherded by venerable members of the ABA working for our corporations and trade groups like the Chamber of Commerce.
Doesn't that make you all warm inside?
The "American Bar Association" is just another organization to censor speech or "bar" speech. I refuse to be involved with the ABA for exactly this reason. They have known of the power of censorship since the Copy[rite] Act of 1790 was written by a lawyer to censor early Amercan presses and keep English school books from being reprinted in the colonies. My disappointment with dishonourable U.S. Courts has coloured my thinking but I try to keep my tung in my cheek in my labours on explaining how America failed from 1790 to 2010 because of a lawyer's censorship use of a 1710 British law.
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Reactant to wade in to this one but here goes. Mr. Teng’s book will be published fear not, so the issue is what was the A.B.A. thinking in refusing to do it themselves. Self-evident, the reaction in China. Why should that matter to Americans with our history of the preservation of free speech and such and so on?
This may be the underlying cause. If your hope is to have a positive influence on the legal structure in China best not to annoy decision makers over a matter that is peripheral to your cause.
The current leading five in the politburo are serious about major reforms in China that they recognize are essential to restructure the party-government structure, and one of those is separating the party from the court system in short taking politics out of justice by establishing a ‘legal system’ that does not at present exist and that involves borrowing legal procedures from European or American established law. A worth while endeavor and the area where the Beijing office of the ABA hopes to have a role. Publish, not publish what would you do? A wise choice.
This may be the underlying cause. If your hope is to have a positive influence on the legal structure in China best not to annoy decision makers over a matter that is peripheral to your cause.
The current leading five in the politburo are serious about major reforms in China that they recognize are essential to restructure the party-government structure, and one of those is separating the party from the court system in short taking politics out of justice by establishing a ‘legal system’ that does not at present exist and that involves borrowing legal procedures from European or American established law. A worth while endeavor and the area where the Beijing office of the ABA hopes to have a role. Publish, not publish what would you do? A wise choice.
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Wishful thinking, insofar as your "inside look" at the Politburo Standing Committee and the intentions of its seven members is concerned. There is but one task... self-preservation.
Reform? Principles? "Taking politics out of the justice system?" The present leadership's approach to all these things is self-interested and severely circumscribed, at best.
Reform? Principles? "Taking politics out of the justice system?" The present leadership's approach to all these things is self-interested and severely circumscribed, at best.
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American Bar Association has not published any books critical of America's human right violations
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Y'know, every time there is an article about China or Russia or Pakistan's lack of freedoms or existence of abuses people come out of the woodwork screeching "Yeah, well what about the US?"
If something happens here too does that mean we should ignore it in other parts of the world? Should the NY Times not write about it?
If something happens here too does that mean we should ignore it in other parts of the world? Should the NY Times not write about it?
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"The first thing we do, lets kill all the lawyers."
- William Shakespeare, Henry The Sixth, Part 2, Act 4, Scene 2
The Chinese Communist regime seeks to extend its censorship beyond it borders to include foreign organizations, such as the A.B.A. When I was a law student in the 1970's, the A,B.A. sent solicitations, including programs on Soviet Law, to encourage membership. I always sent them back in the enclosed self-addressed envelope and never joined.
The A.B.A. has never demonstrated courage in expanding the rule of law to the Communist world; on the contrary, it demonstrates cowardice in refusing to publish Mr. Teng's book, no doubt one of many demonstrating the abuse of human rights in the Chinese "Workers' Paradise" beset by strikes over unpaid wages and poor labor conditions.
No doubt, Mr.Teng will eventually find a U.S. publisher for his book, which will certainly be banned in the Orwellian named "Peoples Republic of
China." I wish him the best of luck, particularly after the A.B.A. turned its back on him!
- William Shakespeare, Henry The Sixth, Part 2, Act 4, Scene 2
The Chinese Communist regime seeks to extend its censorship beyond it borders to include foreign organizations, such as the A.B.A. When I was a law student in the 1970's, the A,B.A. sent solicitations, including programs on Soviet Law, to encourage membership. I always sent them back in the enclosed self-addressed envelope and never joined.
The A.B.A. has never demonstrated courage in expanding the rule of law to the Communist world; on the contrary, it demonstrates cowardice in refusing to publish Mr. Teng's book, no doubt one of many demonstrating the abuse of human rights in the Chinese "Workers' Paradise" beset by strikes over unpaid wages and poor labor conditions.
No doubt, Mr.Teng will eventually find a U.S. publisher for his book, which will certainly be banned in the Orwellian named "Peoples Republic of
China." I wish him the best of luck, particularly after the A.B.A. turned its back on him!
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The ABA just hopes China turns into an ambulance chasing society that needs tax attorneys to help get the CCP leadership money into safe havens. Managed by....attorneys.
Perhaps the ABA is more interested in Business Law, Wall Street style, than human rights law? -Rudy
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Well escaped. Self-publish. Why does it matter if anyone actually reads it?
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It seems that ABA believes it can effectively teach the rule of law in China after it gives up its right in the US. By refusing to exercise their First Amendment rights here they diminish themselves there.
The Hollywood studios studiously self-censor so as not to offend the Chinese Communist Party and get banned.
US manufacturers give away proprietary information to the Chinese so they can make goods in China to sell to the Chinese. And soon those manufacturers (say Boeing) will be exporting their Chinese made goods to the US. The GOP and the US Chamber of Commerce lecture to us about free trade and competition. And those two entities are always for competition, unless of course it is in the USA. Then they want to merge all the competitors in each industry to create a monopoly in each industry.
The Democrats' professors are worried about poor countries. They want to use free-trade to help poor countries. Never mind Detroit or the rest of the rust belt. They simultaneously preach about high poverty rates of our minority citizens and the need to protect illegal aliens from deportation. As if those aliens didn't impact the poor citizens.
The elites continue to sacrifice our ideals, our jobs and our children to free trade, multinational wars, international megabusiness and internationalism. Then they are shocked and so scold us when a couple populists run competitively in the two oligopolitical parties owned and managed by those elites.
The Hollywood studios studiously self-censor so as not to offend the Chinese Communist Party and get banned.
US manufacturers give away proprietary information to the Chinese so they can make goods in China to sell to the Chinese. And soon those manufacturers (say Boeing) will be exporting their Chinese made goods to the US. The GOP and the US Chamber of Commerce lecture to us about free trade and competition. And those two entities are always for competition, unless of course it is in the USA. Then they want to merge all the competitors in each industry to create a monopoly in each industry.
The Democrats' professors are worried about poor countries. They want to use free-trade to help poor countries. Never mind Detroit or the rest of the rust belt. They simultaneously preach about high poverty rates of our minority citizens and the need to protect illegal aliens from deportation. As if those aliens didn't impact the poor citizens.
The elites continue to sacrifice our ideals, our jobs and our children to free trade, multinational wars, international megabusiness and internationalism. Then they are shocked and so scold us when a couple populists run competitively in the two oligopolitical parties owned and managed by those elites.
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Well the issue in the article is ABA yes/no on publishing, but the book will be published it is not an issue of First Amendment just reasons for ABA choice.
Your assessment of the rest of our reality is more than correct, but the plutocrat outcome seems certain. The discontent is wide, right and left, only the disagreement over cause and solution. Will that discontent find a viable channel in 2016 election? They seem to be shutting down, locked in the Two Major Party syndrome. Time for historic change again?
Your assessment of the rest of our reality is more than correct, but the plutocrat outcome seems certain. The discontent is wide, right and left, only the disagreement over cause and solution. Will that discontent find a viable channel in 2016 election? They seem to be shutting down, locked in the Two Major Party syndrome. Time for historic change again?
And, yes, China's accession to first GATT then the WTO was shepherded by venerable members of the ABA working for our corporations and trade groups like the Chamber of Commerce.
Doesn't that make you feel all warm inside?