At this moment Senator Sanders has dissed just about every corporation and executive and has no plans to meet with the heads of Verizon, Walmart, GE et al. He is against anyone who makes more than a living wage. He can't name any company he likes. Sanders wants to help the poor, college students redistributing the wealth on the backs of we in the middle class and the wealthy which according to Sander is anyone making "too much" money.What a nut.
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Sanders temper is out of control. He sounds tonight like a rabble rousing Marxist Leninist. This sad excuse of a raving lunatic is on full display in Brooklyn. Sanders has come home, He may win Brooklyn but he's lost America.
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The point is Government doesnt do enough, alot of tax evading from Corporations makes it look like racism. Stop insulting our http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/u-s-companies-are-stas...
Watching tonight's debate it's become more and more evident that Sanders has flipped his wig. He harps and harps on Hillary with no specifics. Sanders is foaming at the mouth, spittle drooling down his chin, harrumphing and snickering. I think Sanders has blown his socialistic cool. His cool has turned to radical communistic heat. Sanders has lost it.
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In a NY Times article by Peter Eavis on 4-7:
“In the interview, with The Daily News’s editorial board, Mr. Sanders does appear to get tangled up in some details and lacks clarity. Breaking up the banks would involve arcane and complex regulatory moves that can trip up any banking policy wonk, let alone a presidential candidate. But, taken as a whole, Mr. Sanders’s answers seem to make sense. Crucially, his answers mostly track with a reasonably straightforward breakup plan that he introduced to Congress last year.”
Whatever Sanders "mistake" it does not change a much more important fact: HRC is one of the biggest liars in American politics. For example, HRC intentionally just created the misimpression that most of the guns used in violence in New York come from Vermont. She slyly used the per capita figure making Vermont, with its small population seemed to be a huge source of guns for NY. In the meantime, in 2014, only 55 out of the 4,585 guns coming from outside New York came from Vermont. For an honest account of the gun issue see:
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/11/clinton-attacks-sanders-on-guns/
If you knowingly create a misimpression in another person's mind you are a liar.
Clinton will work to change some things for the better, but make sure that her friends in the big banks and corporate America continue to reap the profits they are so passionately seeking. Anyone who believes that she will really disturb her cronies’ shell game is naive.
“In the interview, with The Daily News’s editorial board, Mr. Sanders does appear to get tangled up in some details and lacks clarity. Breaking up the banks would involve arcane and complex regulatory moves that can trip up any banking policy wonk, let alone a presidential candidate. But, taken as a whole, Mr. Sanders’s answers seem to make sense. Crucially, his answers mostly track with a reasonably straightforward breakup plan that he introduced to Congress last year.”
Whatever Sanders "mistake" it does not change a much more important fact: HRC is one of the biggest liars in American politics. For example, HRC intentionally just created the misimpression that most of the guns used in violence in New York come from Vermont. She slyly used the per capita figure making Vermont, with its small population seemed to be a huge source of guns for NY. In the meantime, in 2014, only 55 out of the 4,585 guns coming from outside New York came from Vermont. For an honest account of the gun issue see:
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/11/clinton-attacks-sanders-on-guns/
If you knowingly create a misimpression in another person's mind you are a liar.
Clinton will work to change some things for the better, but make sure that her friends in the big banks and corporate America continue to reap the profits they are so passionately seeking. Anyone who believes that she will really disturb her cronies’ shell game is naive.
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I know this is a minor issue Bernie doesn't want to address.
Perhaps it can't be proven that a murder weapon used in New York came from Vermont but it's very easy to get one there. Although they might be suspicious if you aren't white.
The People of Vermont know it's their constitutional (god given) right to own a gun. More power to them.
No permit needed for concealed weapons, open carry, legal silencers, no background checks, etc. Texas holds Vermont as its model for control.
Now no one would accuse Bernie of being responsible for the complete lack of gun control in the state that has kept him in office for his entire political career and let's be clear, just because you can accuse Hillary of wrong doing without any proof doesn't mean Sanders should be held to the same standard.
Perhaps it can't be proven that a murder weapon used in New York came from Vermont but it's very easy to get one there. Although they might be suspicious if you aren't white.
The People of Vermont know it's their constitutional (god given) right to own a gun. More power to them.
No permit needed for concealed weapons, open carry, legal silencers, no background checks, etc. Texas holds Vermont as its model for control.
Now no one would accuse Bernie of being responsible for the complete lack of gun control in the state that has kept him in office for his entire political career and let's be clear, just because you can accuse Hillary of wrong doing without any proof doesn't mean Sanders should be held to the same standard.
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Ok, I'm not buying the argument that Clinton is more likely to win against Cruz or Trump... look at this! Bernie Sanders has a way better chance against ALL of the republican candidates.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#2016-general-election
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster#2016-general-election
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At this point, I don't really care if Linus & Lucy are running on the Democratic Ticket: What I *do* care about and insist upon is- both candidates be required to answer, HOW and WHAT!
Every major media outlet and pundit is insisting that Sanders explain how he is going to do all he wants to do. Not a single editorial, opinion piece or analyst has posed that question for Hillary Clinton. Now one has asked- and she has not divulged.
What exactly is her agenda? What is her vision for the nation? Name one item she has articulated? None; Nada.
Why hasn't anyone asked or even pondered the question?
As odious as Trump's "policies" are- at least we know them; As foolhardy as Cruz's proposals are- at least we know them; as lackluster as Kasich's "ideas" are- at least we know them. We even know [too much] about Carson', Bush and the rest of the GOP's Presidential-to-do-list; we know nothing of Hillary Clinton's.
Why is there a concerted effort by all with the power to "ask"- assisting Clinton in sliding onto home base without ever hitting the proverbial ball?
Every major media outlet and pundit is insisting that Sanders explain how he is going to do all he wants to do. Not a single editorial, opinion piece or analyst has posed that question for Hillary Clinton. Now one has asked- and she has not divulged.
What exactly is her agenda? What is her vision for the nation? Name one item she has articulated? None; Nada.
Why hasn't anyone asked or even pondered the question?
As odious as Trump's "policies" are- at least we know them; As foolhardy as Cruz's proposals are- at least we know them; as lackluster as Kasich's "ideas" are- at least we know them. We even know [too much] about Carson', Bush and the rest of the GOP's Presidential-to-do-list; we know nothing of Hillary Clinton's.
Why is there a concerted effort by all with the power to "ask"- assisting Clinton in sliding onto home base without ever hitting the proverbial ball?
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Do Bernie fans think Bernie will get the majority he needs to flip Congress if his exuberant supporters resort to juvenile insults and vulgarity in attacking Hillary? Does it not occur to Bernie Bros that he needs Hillary supporters at the end of the day if he is nominated? Or are they just too puerile to understand that fundamental political reality? Maybe they just don't give a hoot.
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"Do Bernie fans think Bernie will get the majority he needs to flip Congress if his exuberant supporters resort to juvenile insults and vulgarity in attacking Hillary?"
Well, yes. The Hillary supporters aren't going to vote for Trump or Cruz if Hillary doesn't get the nomination
Well, yes. The Hillary supporters aren't going to vote for Trump or Cruz if Hillary doesn't get the nomination
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I hope Hillary will simply and calmly address issues rather than allowing her handlers to go after Bernie's weaknesses (and supposed weaknesses). He is a gentleman, and she will benefit from not attacking him or trying to find his weak points, but rather addressing her strengths.
While his purity is beyond question, so is his impracticality, and he tends to say many of the same things over and over. I appreciate that he has been a voice in the wilderness for a long time, but purity isn't everything.
I really would like Hillary to espouse the Democratic wing of the Democratic party, but her knowledge and skills are invaluable.
For example, on climate, Joe Romm was the Clintons' energy guy, and John Podesta produced this deeply knowledgeable prime time special on what might happen in 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqRpM72Odg
So leave it in the ground. Fracking and tar sands are not such a good idea after all. As the news comes together, there are so many unaccounted liabilities there, it's time to move on, following the market towards real clean renewable energy. We can do it.
While his purity is beyond question, so is his impracticality, and he tends to say many of the same things over and over. I appreciate that he has been a voice in the wilderness for a long time, but purity isn't everything.
I really would like Hillary to espouse the Democratic wing of the Democratic party, but her knowledge and skills are invaluable.
For example, on climate, Joe Romm was the Clintons' energy guy, and John Podesta produced this deeply knowledgeable prime time special on what might happen in 2009:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDqRpM72Odg
So leave it in the ground. Fracking and tar sands are not such a good idea after all. As the news comes together, there are so many unaccounted liabilities there, it's time to move on, following the market towards real clean renewable energy. We can do it.
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"To put down Mr. Sanders’s insurgency, Mrs. Clinton might have to break out of that pattern and deliver a message that genuinely excites the Democratic base in a state that twice elected her to the Senate."
Fat chance!
Fat chance!
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After tonight and Tuesday's primary thankfully Sanders New York socialist circus will move on to its next quixotic stop still hoping there are enough gullible goobers out there who want hope and change and a future they can believe in.
How many times does it take before Left Wing nuts realize they're sounding as idiotic in their rants as FOX "News" propaganda and Rush Limbaugh's Right Wing nuts ditto heads? The answer is not blowing in the wind. It's blowing in windbags like Sanders, Trump and Cruz. Give we middle of the road Americans a break please. Stop it already with your tax the rich nonsense. The extreme Left and Right equally share the blame for the divisive nature they have put this nation in. Shame on both their houses.
How many times does it take before Left Wing nuts realize they're sounding as idiotic in their rants as FOX "News" propaganda and Rush Limbaugh's Right Wing nuts ditto heads? The answer is not blowing in the wind. It's blowing in windbags like Sanders, Trump and Cruz. Give we middle of the road Americans a break please. Stop it already with your tax the rich nonsense. The extreme Left and Right equally share the blame for the divisive nature they have put this nation in. Shame on both their houses.
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Is it really such a bad thing to ask for an affordable education to make oneself competitive in our globalized economy? Or to say that there is a basic minimum of healthcare which cannot be denied due to one's family or misfortune?
As to taxing the rich, if they've taken all the productivity gains of the past 30 years (empirical evidence) why shouldn't they give some up while still living extravagant lives? Our entire political and economic system is rigged. It's not extreme to revert back to standards in place 30 years ago.
As to taxing the rich, if they've taken all the productivity gains of the past 30 years (empirical evidence) why shouldn't they give some up while still living extravagant lives? Our entire political and economic system is rigged. It's not extreme to revert back to standards in place 30 years ago.
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Hillary Clintons' "comfort zone", ended the moment she realized she was not going to coast into this nomination.
Her long history of supporting Big Business, instead of the people, is no longer possible to hide, so now she must give the impression she is backtracking, and offer platitudes of one kind or another.
Hillary was, is, and always will be, an opportunist to the nth degree, riding the trick horse that has been provided her by her Big Business partners, including Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Oil, and lets not forget the "Private Prison Corporations of America", who with the crime bill enacted by her husband Bill, and with her proud support, all have established the United States as the only nation on the planet with the largest prison population in history, and growing every day.
Astonishing as it seems both she and Bill are so confident in their ability to win the Presidency, both still anger Black Americans, she with her calling young Black Americans "Super-Predators", and Bill trying to convince Black Americans his awful crime bill was right.
Hillary is a corrupt politician, always willing and able to be become more corrupted, as each additional opportunity presents itself, which is precisely why she wants to be our President.
Hopefully the remainder of Americans who are still wearing blinders, will take them off, and vote for the first exemplary gentleman to come along since FDR, Bernie Sanders, the gentleman from Vermont, by way of Brooklyn.
Her long history of supporting Big Business, instead of the people, is no longer possible to hide, so now she must give the impression she is backtracking, and offer platitudes of one kind or another.
Hillary was, is, and always will be, an opportunist to the nth degree, riding the trick horse that has been provided her by her Big Business partners, including Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Oil, and lets not forget the "Private Prison Corporations of America", who with the crime bill enacted by her husband Bill, and with her proud support, all have established the United States as the only nation on the planet with the largest prison population in history, and growing every day.
Astonishing as it seems both she and Bill are so confident in their ability to win the Presidency, both still anger Black Americans, she with her calling young Black Americans "Super-Predators", and Bill trying to convince Black Americans his awful crime bill was right.
Hillary is a corrupt politician, always willing and able to be become more corrupted, as each additional opportunity presents itself, which is precisely why she wants to be our President.
Hopefully the remainder of Americans who are still wearing blinders, will take them off, and vote for the first exemplary gentleman to come along since FDR, Bernie Sanders, the gentleman from Vermont, by way of Brooklyn.
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Thanks Mel. That is well articulated.
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Bernie Sanders reminds me of the great biography of Vince Lombardi "When pride really mattered". In this strange election year of candidates of the past, the right wing fringe and the reality celebrity apprentice/demagogue, Bernie Sanders stands out for his honesty, integrity and conviction. Whereas Clinton says what every democrat wants to hear, she has no real conviction on anything, sort of like a current version of Richard Nixon or in movie parlance. the corrupt inspector Renoir in Casablanca whose opinions depend upon which direction the wind is blowing and for Clinton during the primaries, the wind is blowing to the progressive left.
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Where were Old Bernie's "honesty" and "integrity" the other day when he LIED about Hillary, complete with air quotes and "quote unquote"?
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Don't do it, Bernie, don't take bogus political advice from the New York Times. Not now, when you're on the verge of winning without their help. They are not your friend.
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The debate must be issue and substance based.... Bernie should continue and press Clinton's vote on Iraqi war; her interventionist policy in Syria and Libya; her support for NAFTA; for fracking and in support of the1994 crime bill; her contradictory statements on Wall street; accepting their donations then speaking tough against them; her accepting donations from Verizon CEO's then standing with the Verizon strikers. Sanders should call out Clinton on her lying and distorting his stance on gun control and insist on what source she used when she stated a majority of illegal guns coming into NYC are from Vermont..... The NYPD which supports statistics to federal agencies (ATF FBI) have clearly shown that the gun trafficking comes from the south! Ironically, using Clinton's logic the ATF data shows there was a greater number of illegal guns coming from NY into Vermont. Again we see Clinton as duplicitous, dishonest and disingenuous; who will say and do anything to get elected. There is a reason why first lady Obama dislikes Hillary and had wished Bidden run against her; there is a reason why the president has not endorsed Hillary; there is a reason why Senator Warren has not endorsed Hillary.......She is disliked!!!!!
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Clinton has been easy on Sanders for the same reason the "establishment" Repblicans went easy on Trump: they knew they would need the votes of his supporters in the general election. Now the table has been turned on Trump, and he struggles. Sanders will struggle, too, perhaps in a worse way since he has looked more competent in his adoring media bubble than the self- infatuated Trump ever did. Once Sanders has to face the big guns of presidential poltics, he will show his pathetic incompetence. Should the Republicans nominate Trump, Sanders might win as the less sorry option; but any other Republican will probably beat him, including the obnoxious but very sharp Ted Cruz. If you think I am wrong about all this, please explain how, in this country today, Sanders could really do any of the sweeping, revolution-needing changes he is promising. There is no revolution apparent (exciting the Democratic liberal base is not a revolution), and Sanders has no magic wand.
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In reviewing the large list of comments, one can only surmise that the readership of the New York Times will vote for Bernie Sanders. Let's cross our fingers that the state of New York feels the same way.
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Hillary Clintons' "comfort zone", ended the moment she realized she was not going to coast into this nomination.
Her long history of supporting Big Business, instead of the people, is no longer possible to hide, so now she must give the impression she is backtracking, and offer platitudes of one kind or another.
Hillary was, is, and always will be, an opportunist to the nth degree, riding the trick horse that has been provided her by her Big Business partners, including Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Oil, and lets not forget the "Private Prison Corporations of America", who with the crime bill enacted by her husband Bill, and with her proud her support, all have established the United States as the only nation on the planet with the largest prison population in history, and growing every day; astonishing as it seems both she and Bill are so confident in their ability to win the Presidency, both still anger Black Americans, she with her calling young Black Americans "Super predators, and Bill trying to convince Black Americans his awful crime bill was right.
Hillary is a corrupt politician, always willing and able to be become more corrupted, as each additional opportunity presents itself, which is precisely why she wants to be our President.
Hopefully the remainder of Americans who are still wearing blinders, will take them off, and vote for the first exemplary gentleman to come along since FDR, Bernie Sanders, the gentleman from Vermont, by way of Brooklyn.
Her long history of supporting Big Business, instead of the people, is no longer possible to hide, so now she must give the impression she is backtracking, and offer platitudes of one kind or another.
Hillary was, is, and always will be, an opportunist to the nth degree, riding the trick horse that has been provided her by her Big Business partners, including Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Oil, and lets not forget the "Private Prison Corporations of America", who with the crime bill enacted by her husband Bill, and with her proud her support, all have established the United States as the only nation on the planet with the largest prison population in history, and growing every day; astonishing as it seems both she and Bill are so confident in their ability to win the Presidency, both still anger Black Americans, she with her calling young Black Americans "Super predators, and Bill trying to convince Black Americans his awful crime bill was right.
Hillary is a corrupt politician, always willing and able to be become more corrupted, as each additional opportunity presents itself, which is precisely why she wants to be our President.
Hopefully the remainder of Americans who are still wearing blinders, will take them off, and vote for the first exemplary gentleman to come along since FDR, Bernie Sanders, the gentleman from Vermont, by way of Brooklyn.
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If Bernie even mutters the words "gun control," the Republicans will win the Presidency. Yes, any Republican. Every time a Democrat says "gun control" into a mic, a Republican angel wins his wings.
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Bernie Sanders' "revolution" against skyrocketing inequality and Wall Street (including its values and ethos) dominance of our society actually seeks little more than reversal of a much more epochal revolution that started around 1980.
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
Since the 1980s an "invisible hand" religion (personified in film by "greed is good" Gordon Gecko) institutionalized on Wall Street and at academic institutions like the University of Chicago economics department (Milton Friedman, later Gary Becker and Richard Posner, who would legislate the doctrines from the bench), has displaced traditional arbiters of fairness. Even Adam Smith believed raw economic competition and acquisitiveness unconstrained by other values ultimately destructive. Sanders seeks a remedy for the revolution that, in a word, has given us Donald Trump.
This is the civil rights issue of our day: we cannot be a democratic free society of we are going to be the oligarchy we have been turning into since 1980, a change supported by the Clintons.
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
Since the 1980s an "invisible hand" religion (personified in film by "greed is good" Gordon Gecko) institutionalized on Wall Street and at academic institutions like the University of Chicago economics department (Milton Friedman, later Gary Becker and Richard Posner, who would legislate the doctrines from the bench), has displaced traditional arbiters of fairness. Even Adam Smith believed raw economic competition and acquisitiveness unconstrained by other values ultimately destructive. Sanders seeks a remedy for the revolution that, in a word, has given us Donald Trump.
This is the civil rights issue of our day: we cannot be a democratic free society of we are going to be the oligarchy we have been turning into since 1980, a change supported by the Clintons.
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My biggest problem with the Sanders movement is that if you don't support him, you are somehow corrupt. He lost me when he dismissed Planned Parenthood as the "establishment." You try providing healthcare while dealing with daily death threats and occasional shootings...those people are heroes! He could have easily said, "I'm sorry they didn't endorse me, but I support them", but no, he went with his standard, "if you aren't with me, you're against me"...Simplistic thinking I would expect from a republican, not a socialist.
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In my opinion, he wasn't calling Planned Parenthood as 'establisment', he was calling their executive leadership out for a partisan endorsement that does not reflect the policies of the candidates. Bernie has fought hard for community and public health options. The precise place where PP is forced to step up. PP didn't ask their donors or their clients or their employees who to endorse. They made an executive decision with little reason or logic to back it up.
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If you're Hillary Clinton, you certainly are corrupt. As to everybody else, I'm open-minded.
Bernie may have been born in Brooklyn, but his entire political career has been spent in Vermont - one of the 10 whitest states in the U.S. That explains a lot about his monolithic analysis of social justice. Bernie'sVermontSoWhite that one African-African quoted says "being black in Vermont today is like being Jackie Robinson when he broke baseball's color barrier."
As reported by ABC News:
" According to the Census Bureau, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire all have mostly white populations — in fact, at least 96 percent of the population of each state is white.
According to John Tucker of the Peace and Justice Center in Burlington, Vt., African-Americans find it hard to live in the states. Tucker said the small number of people with the same background combined with a lack of job opportunities and cultural offerings keep minority populations away.
Tucker, an African-American himself, said being black in Vermont today is like being Jackie Robinson when he broke baseball's color barrier.
"They are evaluated differently," he said. "They're put under great pressure and that certainly happened to Jackie Robinson for the first two years after his entry into baseball." He said blacks who move to New England are pioneers, much like the baseball great.
see the rest of the story at:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93608&page=1
No thanks, Bernie. You and your Bernie Bros are not the vanguard of a political revolution, you're just sloganeers.
As reported by ABC News:
" According to the Census Bureau, Maine, Vermont and New Hampshire all have mostly white populations — in fact, at least 96 percent of the population of each state is white.
According to John Tucker of the Peace and Justice Center in Burlington, Vt., African-Americans find it hard to live in the states. Tucker said the small number of people with the same background combined with a lack of job opportunities and cultural offerings keep minority populations away.
Tucker, an African-American himself, said being black in Vermont today is like being Jackie Robinson when he broke baseball's color barrier.
"They are evaluated differently," he said. "They're put under great pressure and that certainly happened to Jackie Robinson for the first two years after his entry into baseball." He said blacks who move to New England are pioneers, much like the baseball great.
see the rest of the story at:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=93608&page=1
No thanks, Bernie. You and your Bernie Bros are not the vanguard of a political revolution, you're just sloganeers.
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It baffles me how Clinton supporters think she will have an easier time getting her agenda through a Republican controlled Congress than Sanders would. The hatred of right-wing Republicans for the Clintons is unbounded.
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I'm a Hillary supporter, but if Bernie is the nominee I won't hesitate to vote for him. I only pray that if he isn't, he will urge his dedicated followers to go to the polls and vote for Hillary, as well as the other democrats running on the down tickets. If he doesn't strongly push them, I fear they will stay home.
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Bernie is a protest candidate. This is not to blame him. Never having held governing authority, the energy and thinking of the left has focused on criticism, not constructive reform or even revolutionary efforts and plans. Furthermore, governing in a democracy requires bargaining and compromise, which the left is not comfortable with.
In the run-up to the New York primary, Bernie is making an effort to engage other people on the left, such as Zephyr Teachout, to join his effort and presumably run for Congress. He admits that he will need allies in Congress to implement his revolution.
Revolutions normally don't occur overnight, unless they are violent and overthrow the existing political order. Nevertheless, protest movements have contributed to American progress--from the suffrage movement to ending the war in Viet-Nam.
In the run-up to the New York primary, Bernie is making an effort to engage other people on the left, such as Zephyr Teachout, to join his effort and presumably run for Congress. He admits that he will need allies in Congress to implement his revolution.
Revolutions normally don't occur overnight, unless they are violent and overthrow the existing political order. Nevertheless, protest movements have contributed to American progress--from the suffrage movement to ending the war in Viet-Nam.
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Yes- I agree. Both Hillary and Brine need to find better ways to communicate their empty campaign promises.
It’s all over the internet tonight that Simone Zimmerman, Bernie Sanders new national outreach coordinator to the Jewish community has accused Mr. Netanyahu of sanctioning the murder of more than 2000 people during the 2014 Gaza War, while employing language that the Times would never regard as fit to print.
How is it that her appointment and truly outrageous remarks about Israel have yet to be reported on in the Times?
How is it that her appointment and truly outrageous remarks about Israel have yet to be reported on in the Times?
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Hillary can get rid of the speech transcript scandal by returning the money. Better yet donate it to the treasury. It could use the money. Both Clintons had multi million dollar book deals and have government pensions. While she's at it donate the money from speeches from colleges and universities. What kind of "public servant" puts her palm out and demands hundreds of 1000s of dollars to meet and speak with college kids? Disgraceful, disgusting, greedy, self centered, tone deaf, out of touch, does not even begin to describe her.
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The "speech transcript scandal"? LOL
Does "disgraceful, disgusting, greedy, self centered, tone deaf, out of touch," begin to describe Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, et al.?
What does W. get for a speech? Including to veterans' groups? $100,000.
Should he "donate" it to the VA?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+much+does+bush+get+for+a+speech
What kind of advances do George W. Bush, Laura, Barbara, et al. get for their books? $3,000,000 - $8,000,000. Should they donate it to the Treasury?
Does "disgraceful, disgusting, greedy, self centered, tone deaf, out of touch," begin to describe Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Nancy Reagan, et al.?
What does W. get for a speech? Including to veterans' groups? $100,000.
Should he "donate" it to the VA?
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=how+much+does+bush+get+for+a+speech
What kind of advances do George W. Bush, Laura, Barbara, et al. get for their books? $3,000,000 - $8,000,000. Should they donate it to the Treasury?
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Oh, brother. Do you really not get it??!! Who cares what George W, Barbara Bush or Laura Bush get for speeches? Unlike Hillary, THEY ARE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!
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Sanders supporters are too volatile and so many of them are willing to go to the third party or sit out instead of voting for Hillary Clinton.
That can not be the progressive agenda. Bernie Sanders needs to unite the party in the end if Hillary Clinton becomes to nominee.
That can not be the progressive agenda. Bernie Sanders needs to unite the party in the end if Hillary Clinton becomes to nominee.
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Bernie claims he'll endorse the Democratic nominee. I don't doubt he'll try to move his supporters. Those supporters may not turn out though.
In many ways, Hillary is a very polarizing figure. Her life's work contradicts many of the core principles of Bernie's campaign: getting big money out of politics, ending the revolving door between govt and big business, withholding American firepower when it's interests are not directly threatened.
Would the millions of devoted followers shown up for Hillary if Bernie was not in the picture? Perhaps not, especially considering how her policies have shifted since she announced.
I count myself a Bernie supporter, but would never have supported Clinton. In my opinion, this speaks to Bernie's ability to unite a significant portion of the left who've been disenfranchised by the Democratic party. Interpret that as you will. It doesn't change the fact that Clinton's favorablity is at historic lows for any leading primary contender.
In many ways, Hillary is a very polarizing figure. Her life's work contradicts many of the core principles of Bernie's campaign: getting big money out of politics, ending the revolving door between govt and big business, withholding American firepower when it's interests are not directly threatened.
Would the millions of devoted followers shown up for Hillary if Bernie was not in the picture? Perhaps not, especially considering how her policies have shifted since she announced.
I count myself a Bernie supporter, but would never have supported Clinton. In my opinion, this speaks to Bernie's ability to unite a significant portion of the left who've been disenfranchised by the Democratic party. Interpret that as you will. It doesn't change the fact that Clinton's favorablity is at historic lows for any leading primary contender.
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"Congress won't work with a socialist." Guess what? This Congress won't work with any Democrat in the White House, and certainly not one they've been setting up for years to take down in this election. Obama tried and Sec. Clinton wants to govern like he did. Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results. Somebody needs to call out the GOP bullies and kick some sand in their faces. No more Mr. Democrat Nice Guy or Gal. The rest of the world can take care of themselves for four years. We've got some things to get straight here in the good old USA.
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How about this...During the debate, observe the contrast between Bernie's repetition of exactly the same 3-4 sound bites versus Hillary's clear, detailed, thoughtful responses to each question. Notice Bernie's lack of an international policy and his general avoidance of specifics. It's easy to spout out a stream of inspiring platitudes, as Bernie does. Of course everyone jumps for joy over the idea of free education and health care, but these are false promises without a foundation of experience in navigating the political world. The degree to which he promises ignores that fact that there is another party he'd have to deal with. Hillary has vast experience and knowledge in politics that is reflected in everything she says, as well as the most extensive experience of anyone who has ever run for president.
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The Sander's campaign touts 27,000 at the rally last night topping President Obama's 24,000 at the same site. The NY TV media says Sanders had around 11,500. Seems like a Pinocchio moment for the campaign or is a Trump moment regarding size?
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For ideology, I give Bernie high marks. But nobody is going to break up the big banks and there isn't going to be a Department of Peace. The question is not if college should be free for all because college isn't going to be free for all. Pharmaceutical companies are not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to develop drugs that they can't charge high prices for.
There is the world. Then, there is the world as it might be. And then there is Bernie's world, where everything is fair and just and everybody in country agrees and votes for him. Fox News gets behind Bernie. The Koch brothers spend their billions backing him. Sheldon Adelson feels the bern. Trump and Cruz step aside. That's what it will take.
There is the world. Then, there is the world as it might be. And then there is Bernie's world, where everything is fair and just and everybody in country agrees and votes for him. Fox News gets behind Bernie. The Koch brothers spend their billions backing him. Sheldon Adelson feels the bern. Trump and Cruz step aside. That's what it will take.
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How about this... During the debate, observe the stark contrast between Bernie's repetition over and over of exactly the same general 3-4 sound bites versus Hillary's clear, detailed, thoughtful responses to each question. Notice Bernie's lack of any international policy. In fact, take note of his general lack of specifics. Above all, be aware of Hillary's vast experience and knowledge that is expressed in everything she says. It's easy to spout out a stream of inspiring plans, as Bernie does. Of course everyone jumps for joy over the idea of free education and health care, but these are false promises without a foundation of experience in navigating the political world, including congress.
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If Clinton is elected, watch her put Bill in charge of trade agreements.
Many Democrats fought hard to keep NAFTA from being passed, but he fought harder, with Republicans, and our manufacturing jobs disappeared.
TPP will pass, with more to follow. The objections of Democrats won't matter if Wall Street is happy.
Many Democrats fought hard to keep NAFTA from being passed, but he fought harder, with Republicans, and our manufacturing jobs disappeared.
TPP will pass, with more to follow. The objections of Democrats won't matter if Wall Street is happy.
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Here's a question. Who will Sanders put in charge, of Trade, or anything else, if elected?? Aren't those the questions you should be wondering about -- instead of taking pot-shots at Clinton?
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Democratic Party position: Citizens United is an awful decision allowing special interests to funnel unlimited money into super pacs further corrupting our political process.
Hillary Supporter Position: Hillary personally taking hundreds of millions in Foundation donations, speeches (Hillary & Bill) and other perks from those same special interests has absolutely no influence on any policies she advocates nor influences any people she will appoint to her Cabinet if elected.
Conclusion: Money donated from special interests to candidates corrupts everyone but Hillary.
Hillary Supporter Position: Hillary personally taking hundreds of millions in Foundation donations, speeches (Hillary & Bill) and other perks from those same special interests has absolutely no influence on any policies she advocates nor influences any people she will appoint to her Cabinet if elected.
Conclusion: Money donated from special interests to candidates corrupts everyone but Hillary.
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So Bernie's not gonna take any money from the Democratic Party in the general because it may include supertax money, which would "disqualify" him?
Should be an interesting general election, with the Republicans using $hundreds of millions to skewer Bernie in all the stuff that Hillary has been civil enough not to attack him on (USDR visits, Vuba visits, Sandinista support, cosponsoring the bill to get the IS into Libya), and Bernie relying on $27 donations from the parents of college kids.
Hope you are willing to take the blame when the new Republican president is dismantling the few social programs you actually have for the poor.
Should be an interesting general election, with the Republicans using $hundreds of millions to skewer Bernie in all the stuff that Hillary has been civil enough not to attack him on (USDR visits, Vuba visits, Sandinista support, cosponsoring the bill to get the IS into Libya), and Bernie relying on $27 donations from the parents of college kids.
Hope you are willing to take the blame when the new Republican president is dismantling the few social programs you actually have for the poor.
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Citizens United was aimed at Hillary, so the Koch brothers could be allowed to spend billions to defeat her. What do you suppose she should do in response? Sackcloth and ashes? No, she went out and raised money to fund the Democratic Party and its agenda. As did Obama before her and every other candidate. Who would have guessed that all the people who snoozed through these last 8 years, including the Citizens United decision, were going to wake up suddenly and point fingers at her without having the first idea what they were talking about? It's astounding.
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Here's an idea. Why not take a more informative stance in supporting your candidate by explaining just where all of his $48+million in contributions is coming from??? -- And maybe get him to finally release his tax forms.
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One young college woman said a couple of weeks ago that she is going to vote for Senator Sanders because he wants the same things she does - free everything with no plan. When asked why she didn't think she should vote for Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the first QUALIFIED female to step up and run for the Presidency, she said, "There is plenty of time to elect a woman". WHAT ? 240 YEARS OF HIS STORY IS NOT ENOUGH FOR HER? That is what I call clueless. It is time for women to step up and take over one-half the power positions in the world and make it OUR story and it is time for ALL women - and the men who love them - to vote for QUALIFIED WOMEN. We MUST have partnership governance where women and men share power equally if we ever hope to have true civilization and democracy without constant war. WE must change the international conversation and NOW is the time to start.
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I am almost 69 -- same age as Hillary -- and agree with your young friend. Further, I am sick and tired of Hillary. I would like to see a woman as President, but not Hillary Clinton. In the meantime, I support Sen. Senators.
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Please stop yelling. Lots of accomplished women who have worked hard/don't demand free stuff think that while it would be great to have a woman POTUS, Clinton is the wrong one. Full stop.
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Why do you continue to think Clinton is qualified (in caps)? She's no Liz Warren.
Clinton's experience is eight years in an uncontested Senate seat where she did not pass any amendments. But she kept her head down and make contacts that funneled millions into the Clinton Foundation. Meanwhile Sanders fought both R and D establishments and passed 90 amendments, getting the name "the Amendment King" and the praise of McCain: "Bernie's results oriented."
Clinton as Secretary again did nothing - no Clinton doctrine and no notable negotiations. Did get sniped at on the tarmac once, right? She was proud of (war criminal) Kissinger's praise. Used a private email server to avoid FOIA inquiries. Voted for the Iraq WAR (Sanders sure didn't), and also voted for Libya and Syria and the ill-fated surges. Qualified to be President? How - because she's the first woman??
Missing Whitewater docs later found at her home (after she was acquitted). A $5000 futures investment returned $490.000 (helped by Walmart). Filegate: used FBI reports on 900 Republicans for a "hit list" (Is Clinton the new Nixon?), used the IRS to harass enemies (Yes). NYT called her a "congenital liar". Millions were paid into the Clinton reelection campaign by the Chinese govt. Lots of pardons (pardongate) for their friends. I could go on but will leave that to the salivating Republicans.
Clinton is no Liz Warren - she will set back the woman's movement and the Democrats by about a century.
Clinton's experience is eight years in an uncontested Senate seat where she did not pass any amendments. But she kept her head down and make contacts that funneled millions into the Clinton Foundation. Meanwhile Sanders fought both R and D establishments and passed 90 amendments, getting the name "the Amendment King" and the praise of McCain: "Bernie's results oriented."
Clinton as Secretary again did nothing - no Clinton doctrine and no notable negotiations. Did get sniped at on the tarmac once, right? She was proud of (war criminal) Kissinger's praise. Used a private email server to avoid FOIA inquiries. Voted for the Iraq WAR (Sanders sure didn't), and also voted for Libya and Syria and the ill-fated surges. Qualified to be President? How - because she's the first woman??
Missing Whitewater docs later found at her home (after she was acquitted). A $5000 futures investment returned $490.000 (helped by Walmart). Filegate: used FBI reports on 900 Republicans for a "hit list" (Is Clinton the new Nixon?), used the IRS to harass enemies (Yes). NYT called her a "congenital liar". Millions were paid into the Clinton reelection campaign by the Chinese govt. Lots of pardons (pardongate) for their friends. I could go on but will leave that to the salivating Republicans.
Clinton is no Liz Warren - she will set back the woman's movement and the Democrats by about a century.
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There is one thing that I'm looking for - Will they blend?
These two sides have to come together. Together the people supporting both these candidates can achieve some of their common goals.Thats the best I can hope for.
These two sides have to come together. Together the people supporting both these candidates can achieve some of their common goals.Thats the best I can hope for.
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Bernie -when you are running for the President of the United States, and you claim that you can't produce your tax returns because your wife does them and she's been busy, it gives me a sneaking suspicion that for all your rhetorical gifts , that you might not be ready for prime time.
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If Trump said the same thing Sanders is spouting off we'd all think he was a kook. In fact we know Trump is nuts. Liberals who think they're so cool and above all those bumpkins in red states are even more gullible falling for Sanders socialistic claptrap. The same thing happened in the Sixties when college kids thought they could end the war in Vietnam. Stupid then, stupid now. We got Nixon elected in a landslide with all those socialistic protesters back then still protesting. America has never voted for an atheist socialist bordering on communistic radical and never will. But the kids want free stuff anyway and think they're unique in being revolutionary. What poppycock.
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All 'those kids' did stop the Vietnam war. I would know.
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Here's what I'm looking for tonight: Mrs. Clinton to tell us in simple English why she's not compromised by her asking and taking enormous speaking fees and contributions from Wall Street banks, corporations, and wealthy donors.
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Hillary supporters don't care that she and Bill have taken hundreds of millions in foundation donations, speaking fees, etc., from special interests since leaving the White House. They don't care her speeches to those special interests are secret. They are more worried about Bernie's tax returns.
They are providing bipartisan support with the hated Republicans that money in politics (and taken personally) is just not an issue. They refuse to see the hypocrisy of wanting to overturn Citizens United while supporting a candidate who is a poster child for Citizens United.
Money corrupts politicians but not Hillary.
They are providing bipartisan support with the hated Republicans that money in politics (and taken personally) is just not an issue. They refuse to see the hypocrisy of wanting to overturn Citizens United while supporting a candidate who is a poster child for Citizens United.
Money corrupts politicians but not Hillary.
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I think she could say in simple English: President Obama received far more Wall Street and corporate money and all you Sanders supporters not only did not consider him corrupt, you viewed him as the great progressive hope, remember?
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I would like Bernie to address the hugely profitable corporate tax havens set up in Vermont under the idea of "shadow insurance" for companies like Walmart and Starbucks so they do not have to pay as much fed tax and our maple syrup friends get the fees. Covered years ago by the Christian Science Monitor in an article called Vermont's Dirty Little Tax Secret. I haven't heard Bernie's take on the home state revenues on this.
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In 2013 Hillary gaven 39 speeches in to private groups for which she received over $250,000 each (three more for $125,000). That is three speeches a month or one every one and a quarter weeks. A lot of speeches, a lot of money.
I bet none of you were invited.
I bet none of you were invited.
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That is how ex-politicians now become multi-millionaires -- they set up foundattions and give speeches. And don't forget all the first class travel and lodging that accompanies those speaking fees.
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I doubt I'd have gone anyway. Policy talks are pretty boring. That's probably why Bernie doesn't bother trying to inspire people with too many boring details.
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Please get the candidates to discuss and defend their history of accomplishments, failures, and missteps in college-level grown-up detail and explanation.
They can change their platforms of promises whenever it suits them, but for politicians past performance does indicate how they will behave as President.
Substance that is crunchy and meaty would be a welcome change in the media diet.
Please sir? I want some more!
They can change their platforms of promises whenever it suits them, but for politicians past performance does indicate how they will behave as President.
Substance that is crunchy and meaty would be a welcome change in the media diet.
Please sir? I want some more!
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April 14, 2016
Hillary and Bernard have to answer one question - how can the voters believe that based on existing statues - and by whomever, whenever, etc., can be modified and why - but here is what to LOOK are any campaign proposals -a) passable and in what vein of ideological virtue for the wealth of our one nations. As for the opposition party or parties - notwithstanding a Trump third party default - the archetypal theme for all debates is honor and trust for the core strength of RNC and DNC that is substantives for living well and smart.
jja Manhattan, N.Y.
Hillary and Bernard have to answer one question - how can the voters believe that based on existing statues - and by whomever, whenever, etc., can be modified and why - but here is what to LOOK are any campaign proposals -a) passable and in what vein of ideological virtue for the wealth of our one nations. As for the opposition party or parties - notwithstanding a Trump third party default - the archetypal theme for all debates is honor and trust for the core strength of RNC and DNC that is substantives for living well and smart.
jja Manhattan, N.Y.
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I have a real problem with commenters using words like "old", "senile", etc. to refer to Bernie Sanders. Many people who do this may not realize that it is as offensive as mocking someone's race, religion, or gender. The only difference is that all of us will get to be old someday, if we are lucky. Let's stick to the issues please!
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Ageism is prejudice against our future selves. Shame on those people making ageist comments.
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I was not aware peoplewere doing what you say. Personally if I were going to refer to anyone as "old," it would be Hillary Clinton and not Bernie Sanders, because she just seems way past her expiration date.
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Well said. Thank you.
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I’ve been trying to stay away from NYT because of the changed mood in these columns. I believe Sanders staffers attack here by design, and it’s tiresome. So instead, I donated to Clinton’s campaign today, the first time in my life I have ever donated to an election. I generally don’t believe hard earned money should be lost on politics. But Sanders campaign has gotten aggressive in ways I distrust and dislike, so I sent $25 to Clinton. I kind of regret it, because I really do think it’s wasted, but I want her to win in NY.
Can she fight on her own terms? My goodness. What else has she been doing the last 20, 30, 40 years? I honestly admire her ability to endure, and the simple truth is, I trust her strength way more than Sander’s antics.
Can she fight on her own terms? My goodness. What else has she been doing the last 20, 30, 40 years? I honestly admire her ability to endure, and the simple truth is, I trust her strength way more than Sander’s antics.
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Must agree with you on the timbre of some of the Sanders supporters. A bit too mean -- not sure if it's by design, or not.....But take heart. If you think your hard-earned money is going to waste -- just take a look at the Republican side of the room. You'll feel better.
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I doubt it's by design either - we just get tired of the Clinton backers' cocksure attitude as well as their disbelief that the good ol' USA could ever have a more caring social welfare system such as that of Canada and Europe.
I love that you want her to win NY!!! I wish the primary was tomorrow! Thank God it's a closed primary, Bernie doesn't do as well in those. But yet he's pandering like nobody's business. Where the heck has he been all these years? Your support matters and is valued!!!
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I have tried, but I don't think I'll ever understand the support for Clinton. I've yet to hear anyone articulate concrete reasons why her "let's keep things the way they are" stance is best for this country. Moreover, what is her great legacy? I hear a lot about the "Clinton Years." Great. Except the "Clinton Years" gave us the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the Telecommunications Act of 1996, DOMA, "don't ask, don't tell", the 1994 crime bill, and welfare "reform". All such progressive stalwarts (/sarcasm). I really don't get it. Clinton supporters call themselves Democrats. I wonder what that word even means anymore.
HRC will win the NY primary next week. Not because more NYers support her, but because the primary is fashioned in her favor. You have to be a registered Democrat and you must have been for at least a year! Don't think for a minute that her "I haven't decided yet if I'll run" tripe wasn't calculated to benefit her in NY.
If Trump is the nominee then Clinton will win the presidency. But if Trump isn't, then there's a good chance she will lose. Either way, we all lose. We either get a Cruz presidency or Clinton presidency. Our future never looked brighter.
HRC will win the NY primary next week. Not because more NYers support her, but because the primary is fashioned in her favor. You have to be a registered Democrat and you must have been for at least a year! Don't think for a minute that her "I haven't decided yet if I'll run" tripe wasn't calculated to benefit her in NY.
If Trump is the nominee then Clinton will win the presidency. But if Trump isn't, then there's a good chance she will lose. Either way, we all lose. We either get a Cruz presidency or Clinton presidency. Our future never looked brighter.
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The Clinton Years will also be remembered for the failure to get health care legislation even considered, much less enacted, even though it was an issue Bill Clinton ran on. The "health care czarina", after much to do and drafting of proposals was I think photographed for no less than the NY Times marching up to Congress with that proposal by the smartest girl in the class. Yet within months they had just dropped the whole thing. So much for that.
I have voted in New York City for 30 years, the last 23 at the same address. But I was registered as an independent. A couple of months ago I tried to switch my registration to Democratic (which is the way I generally vote anyway) so I could vote in the primary. Nope. the NY Democrats require you prove your bona fides for 12 MONTHS before they will let you vote in their primary! So I will just contribute more to Sen. Sanders's campaign than I have been contributing for the pasat 9 months as a way of making up for the fact that I can't vote for him.
I have voted in New York City for 30 years, the last 23 at the same address. But I was registered as an independent. A couple of months ago I tried to switch my registration to Democratic (which is the way I generally vote anyway) so I could vote in the primary. Nope. the NY Democrats require you prove your bona fides for 12 MONTHS before they will let you vote in their primary! So I will just contribute more to Sen. Sanders's campaign than I have been contributing for the pasat 9 months as a way of making up for the fact that I can't vote for him.
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So, true.
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Do you know why the Clinton healthcare reform did not pass? Go study up on that and see if you think Bernie will meet less headwind. And since Bernie isn't giving any of his money to down ticket Democrats like Clinton is, how does he think he's going to get a congress that will be more amenable to his even more radical plan than what the Clintons put together back in 94?
They didn't "drop it". They got skewered because the plan was judged too optimistic. so if they couldn't get universal health care passed in '94, how do you think Bernie is going to get single payer healthcare enacted? Especially since he doesn't even know if he wants to help down ticket Democrats.
They didn't "drop it". They got skewered because the plan was judged too optimistic. so if they couldn't get universal health care passed in '94, how do you think Bernie is going to get single payer healthcare enacted? Especially since he doesn't even know if he wants to help down ticket Democrats.
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Senator Sanders, since you are requesting that Clinton release her paid speeches it is only fair that you release your taxes and not just a one page summary. Transparency works both ways.
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If I could attend and were allowed to ask Ms. Clinton a question, I'd ask if she believes she'd enjoy more lucrative speaking engagements with Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street firms if her administration would be less aggressive challenging and prosecuting those organizations, and whether a more aggressive approach to Wall Street might result in diminished personal income for her after a Clinton administration.
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Personally, I would love to ask her if she felt if she would be any more successful as Pesident getting legislation enacted than she was getting health care reform enacted in 1993 and whether she would drop proposed legislation as quickly as she did when she encounted opposition to health care reform
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ellienyc: Clearly you did not have a single clue the way Clinton got treated after she tried to get a healthcare plan. They excoriated her for Hillarycare, and turned up the hate. Please stop insinuating that healthcare was a breezy idea and she gave up. That is simply not true.
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Or ask her if she'll manage to make legislation so radioactive after she tries to pass it that we'll be unable to take it up for another 20 years, as was the case with her initial bungling of Hillary Care.
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I wish all of these debates were on PBS, without commercials, with substantive questions from well-informed, impartial moderators, and without a partisan live audience. It might be boring to some, but it might force candidates to give specific and detailed answers about exactly how they intend to accomplish their goals in the reality of present-day Washington. In that kind of debate, I have no doubt that Hillary would impress and Bernie would struggle.
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I agree, but I do need to make one point. At the last NPR-sponsored debate Judy Woodruff, who was a moderator also happened to have donated to Clinton's Victory Fund. So much for neutrality in this system...
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I have high hopes for Erroll Louis, the NY1 political anchor, and a very smart, well-informed and impartial guy. He has I think been doing some commentary for CNN this year (I don't get CNN). I often watch his show on NY1, which I think is the only show to watch for NY political coverage of any variety at any time.
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Uh, the PBS moderators, Judy Woodruff and Gwen Ifill were AWFUL when they moderated the PBS/CNN debate in Milwaukee. I mean, just awful.
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Bernie's focus is narrow only to those who don't pay thorough attention to foreign policy. Wall Street corporate investors have always had a big influence on where and when the US intervenes in sovereign nations and what governments it chooses to support or undermine.
Big oil is the most obvious case in point. Iran is still highly suspicious of us for our overthrowing their democratically elected government a half century ago. We supported Apartheid in South Africa for access to their rare minerals and murderous dictators in Latin America for similar reasons - it wasn't always for our security as some would claim.
We will be in much better hands with Bernie in the White House than a friend of Henry Kissinger.
Big oil is the most obvious case in point. Iran is still highly suspicious of us for our overthrowing their democratically elected government a half century ago. We supported Apartheid in South Africa for access to their rare minerals and murderous dictators in Latin America for similar reasons - it wasn't always for our security as some would claim.
We will be in much better hands with Bernie in the White House than a friend of Henry Kissinger.
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So Bernie being a co-sponsor of the bill that got the US to join France and Britain inn enacting UN resolution 1973 that made way for the air campaign in Libya doesn't bother you?
Or did you even know that Bernie was so in favour of Libya intervention that he co-sponsored a bill that allowed it to happen?
Or did you even know that Bernie was so in favour of Libya intervention that he co-sponsored a bill that allowed it to happen?
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What I will look for this evening is whether or not Wolff will ask Clinton why she did not work with the New York Democratic party to change those undemocratic rules that disenfranchise Independent voters from their right to vote in New York, just as she rales about voter disenfranchisement in the southern states due to voter I.D. requirements.
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Becauseit it is a PARTY primary. Independents are free to vote in general elections. If youwant to have a voice in party matters, join the party
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@Joseph Zilvinskis
So, red states that require voter I.D., but who allow all Independents to choose which party, Democratic or Republicans they choose to vote for, are unjust?
Think bigger, Sir.
Go Bernie!
So, red states that require voter I.D., but who allow all Independents to choose which party, Democratic or Republicans they choose to vote for, are unjust?
Think bigger, Sir.
Go Bernie!
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It is a huge failing of our democracy that a private organization has the power to prevent a bona fide registered voter from voting for a bona fide presidential candidate. The argument that one should have updated their affiliation a year ago only serves to illustrate how undemocratic our elections really are.
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As someone mentioned yesterday regarding another article, when you click on the comments section here, it opens to an NYT Pick that is harshly critical of Senator Sanders.
Needless to stay, it is also full of praise for Clinton.
And it's not as if this "Pick" is the first one you'd see if you were looking at all the comments and then clicked on that tab. This one has seemingly been chosen as the first thing anyone looking at the comments sees.
This practice is so biased, it's incredible.
Needless to stay, it is also full of praise for Clinton.
And it's not as if this "Pick" is the first one you'd see if you were looking at all the comments and then clicked on that tab. This one has seemingly been chosen as the first thing anyone looking at the comments sees.
This practice is so biased, it's incredible.
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If you look closely, you will see that the NYT picks are sorted based on the time they are published. So apparently Bernie supporters think time is now conspiring against Bernie too.
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Here is another question for Senator Sanders. What is he doing about dumping the EB5 Visa program that allows foreign investors to spend $500,000 to $1,000,000 to "invest" in real estate and development projects in America and - as long as the project creates 10 jobs - get a PERMANENT U.S. VISA? This is used to EVADE taxes due in other countries and this program is allowing foreign "investors", without any residential requirement, to buy up prime real estate all over America, push up housing prices for average Americans leave properties to rot if they choose. It's a travesty for OUR democracy. What is the wonderful Senator Sanders doing about it? Right now? Did he write an amendment? Yell? Vote no? This program needs to be STOPPED RIGHT NOW. What is HE doing about it? Inquiring minds want to know.
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God forbid someone invest in our country and create jobs!!
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They are not creating sustainable "jobs". They are creating a few short-term construction jobs for those who already have them and BIG developers like DT to make money - and so the "investors" can evade home-country taxes. Nothing about the program helps average Americans and Senator Sanders knows that.
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Gun violence should be an issue for the Democratic candidates; I looked in vain for it on Bernie's website.
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you mean "Black Gun Violence" of course; there is no other gun violence issue
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joe,
sure it's on his sight, look up wealth disparity and the banning of all assault weapons.. Add his strong support for education and you have some real solutions.
Hillary's Wall Street is not a solution.
sure it's on his sight, look up wealth disparity and the banning of all assault weapons.. Add his strong support for education and you have some real solutions.
Hillary's Wall Street is not a solution.
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It's there. Look again, please.
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I have been trying, on a practical level, to get my head around voting for HRC, should it come to that. Then came her "the guns killing people in NYC are coming from Vermont" tripe. She had to have known it was a lie, but she said it anyway. I can't vote for her. Character has to factor in someplace.
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So I guess it's better to turn the country over to a fascist dictator. Great. Hope you have a plan B to get out of the country. I do.
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Your fellow Republicans hope you will vote for Trump.
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There are indeed plenty of guns coming out of Vermont - this not a lie. She is correct in asserting that, per population, Vermont is the biggest contributor to illegal guns in NY...however Vermont has very few people...so most guns come from down south. HRC is rated as the most honest politician by factcheck...so check your facts, man.
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Every time on the subject on foreign policy Mr. Sanders remains superficial or changes the topic. His only answer repeatedly is " Hillary supported Iraq was and I did not". To which Hillary Clinton apologized multiple times.
it is a public knowledge Bernie Sanders has no experience on that and in this day and age which is an absolute necessity to be the leader of this Country.
it is a public knowledge Bernie Sanders has no experience on that and in this day and age which is an absolute necessity to be the leader of this Country.
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When did Hillary apologize for her vote?
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How much did the current President and the previous President have?
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Or the president before them--Bill Clinton?
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Such a underwhelming article... Really, the Democratic presidential race is increasingly 'bitter and personal'??? And, this is being said AFTER the completely bottom of the out-house abysmal debates the country, and the rest of the world were Subjected to by a vast throng of GOP candidates?
At least Sanders and Clinton are squabbling over banks, Wall Street, foreign policy, fair taxes, the middle class, jobs, and personal achievements. If these subjects show them to be 'fractious', so be it, that's the whole point of the debates. At least they are not talking about building walls, requiring ID papers for specific religious groups, or discussing size of body parts, thank the Light!
The fact that Sanders has repeatedly caused Clinton to walk back or adjust much of her ongoing message to mirror his, shows Sanders is not only past that 'essential first step' of a commanding and fluent debate performance', but has already put to rest initial 'skepticism about his readiness for the presidency' all across the country.
At least Sanders and Clinton are squabbling over banks, Wall Street, foreign policy, fair taxes, the middle class, jobs, and personal achievements. If these subjects show them to be 'fractious', so be it, that's the whole point of the debates. At least they are not talking about building walls, requiring ID papers for specific religious groups, or discussing size of body parts, thank the Light!
The fact that Sanders has repeatedly caused Clinton to walk back or adjust much of her ongoing message to mirror his, shows Sanders is not only past that 'essential first step' of a commanding and fluent debate performance', but has already put to rest initial 'skepticism about his readiness for the presidency' all across the country.
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I am amazed that Bernie Sanders gets credit for running a "positive" campaign when he has launched passive-aggressive attacks on her character and judgement. In my opinion, Hillary has run the far more positive campaign.
Hillary has criticized his stances on issues (changing his position on gun rights, lacking depth on bank regulation, etc.), while Bernie's attacks (on her speeches, on Wall Street donations, on "judgment") have all but accused her of being corrupt or inept. Her attacks on him are criticisms that only a Democrat would make and could not be effectively used by Republicans. His attacks on her are part of a narrative that Republicans will advance in the fall should she be the nominee, and he is giving them ammunition.
Hillary has criticized his stances on issues (changing his position on gun rights, lacking depth on bank regulation, etc.), while Bernie's attacks (on her speeches, on Wall Street donations, on "judgment") have all but accused her of being corrupt or inept. Her attacks on him are criticisms that only a Democrat would make and could not be effectively used by Republicans. His attacks on her are part of a narrative that Republicans will advance in the fall should she be the nominee, and he is giving them ammunition.
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Yes, they will destroy her. Another reason I hope Trump is their candidate, not Cruz. His hatred of women is terrifying. He will stop at nothing.
His poor wife was found at the side of a road, "a danger to herself" in the cop's report. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406108/Danger-cop-thought-Ted-C...
His poor kids, used in an anti-Trump commercial by Cruz.
His poor wife was found at the side of a road, "a danger to herself" in the cop's report. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406108/Danger-cop-thought-Ted-C...
His poor kids, used in an anti-Trump commercial by Cruz.
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Sorry. No one "destroys" Hillary Clinton. If she can withstand a marathon Republican hearing without once cracking, she can take on Cruz or Trump.
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Just think of the salivating the GOP would do if Bernie is their opponent. It would be killing a fly with a sledgehammer. They could come up with the attacks while they nap.
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I can do Bernie's part of the debate- in fact, anyone can as it has been the same bumper sticker slogans over and over.
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Thank you. I needed a happy laugh.
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Hillary's pragmatic when it comes to promoting the TPP. Experienced at bombing Libya. Savvy at boosting fracking. Sophisticated at union busting as a Walmart board member. And really knows how to get things done when giving Goldman speeches.
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How much do they pay you to repeat this stuff? Second question -- Is Sanders or RNC?
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Unfortunately for Sanders, he needs to win NY, but the NY Dem primary rules are stacked against him. You must not only be a registered Dem to vote, but you must have been one for at least a year. A year ago Bernie hadn't even announced his candidacy, or his decision to run as a Dem. There is a great deal of support for him in NY, as evidenced by the crowds he's drawing, but many of those attending won't be allowed to vote. Great news for the DNC's darling, Hillary.
If, as expected, he loses in NY, and eventually loses the Dem nod, I wonder if he'll run as an Independent? There are a lot people frozen out of the Democratic primaries that would vote him in November.
If, as expected, he loses in NY, and eventually loses the Dem nod, I wonder if he'll run as an Independent? There are a lot people frozen out of the Democratic primaries that would vote him in November.
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My mistake: You need only to have registered by March 25, 2016. Still, the odds are against him by not allowing non-Dems to vote, although it's their party so they get to make the rules, and he agreed to play.
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Your first post was almost right -- you have to have declared your affiliation by October 9, 2015 (just over 6 months ago, and before the first Democrat debate was held) if you want to vote on April 19.
Unlike other states with closed primaries that at least allow "unaffiliated with a party" registered voters to vote in either the Democrat or Republican primary, New York state demands affiliation to either Democrat or Republican to be able to cast a primary vote next Tuesday.
The March 25, 2016 deadline was for those who had not ever yet registered as a voter.
Unlike other states with closed primaries that at least allow "unaffiliated with a party" registered voters to vote in either the Democrat or Republican primary, New York state demands affiliation to either Democrat or Republican to be able to cast a primary vote next Tuesday.
The March 25, 2016 deadline was for those who had not ever yet registered as a voter.
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Think about the definition of "Democratic primaries". Does that not mean members of the Democratic party chasing who they want to carry their ideas to the general election, where every citizen will then vote on who they think is right. your argument is like complaining you can't go into the VFW and vote on who their chairman is. If you are not part of the organization, and hence willing to put some effort into the organizations success, why should you get a say in who represents the organization.
You have not been disenfranchised. The Democratic party is not taking away your right to vote in the general election.
You have not been disenfranchised. The Democratic party is not taking away your right to vote in the general election.
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I have been talking to a lot of Sanders supporters and this seems to be their basic rationale for supporting their candidate:
If you represent New York in government, you are not allowed to represent New York business interests
If you have represented New York in government you are not allowed to talk to any New York business groups you might have previously represented.
Vote for Bernie "He is not from New York!"
If you represent New York in government, you are not allowed to represent New York business interests
If you have represented New York in government you are not allowed to talk to any New York business groups you might have previously represented.
Vote for Bernie "He is not from New York!"
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It's very clear why you're mystified. Try relying on facts instead of partisan illusion.
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You're supposed to represent the people who elected you before you represent the business interests, especially if you're President.
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Just reporting what they are telling me. Those are not my views
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Hillary isn't my choice for several reasons, but she's not the Antichrist, nor is Bernie the Second Coming. But it is a mistake to dismiss his candidacy or his supporters. His message resonates because Americans are tired of the orthodoxies of both political parties, tired of broken promises, tired of dysfunction, tired of being marginalized by a rigged nation. All elections are about the future.
Bernie's great popularity among young people isn't a result of innocence and immaturity. They have a stake in an uncertain future, and they've been disappointed by politics so far. People my age (68) and the Democratic party establishment tell them they're unrealistic, that they need to be pragmatic and vote for the sensible, real Democratic candidate who can get things done.
I've been voting that way for fifty years. In that time, the Democratic party has distanced itself from the working class, from the middle class, from the reality or ordinary citizens. Approaching another election, I'm being told once again -- despite any reservations -- to vote for a Democrat because the Republican is worse. To use the tired old Democratic mantra: "We can do better."
Until the Democratic party remembers its roots and constituency, it won't do any better. Waiting for the old white men to die off is not a plan for the future. Young people are the future, and they're voting for Bernie right now.
Bernie's great popularity among young people isn't a result of innocence and immaturity. They have a stake in an uncertain future, and they've been disappointed by politics so far. People my age (68) and the Democratic party establishment tell them they're unrealistic, that they need to be pragmatic and vote for the sensible, real Democratic candidate who can get things done.
I've been voting that way for fifty years. In that time, the Democratic party has distanced itself from the working class, from the middle class, from the reality or ordinary citizens. Approaching another election, I'm being told once again -- despite any reservations -- to vote for a Democrat because the Republican is worse. To use the tired old Democratic mantra: "We can do better."
Until the Democratic party remembers its roots and constituency, it won't do any better. Waiting for the old white men to die off is not a plan for the future. Young people are the future, and they're voting for Bernie right now.
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The demographic divide is mainly about economics: the young (and wonks who pay attention to stuff like monetary policy) understand that government spending provides a path to growth which is beneficial to them in the long run while potentially being inflationary. The ideas behind post-Keynesianism (MMT) are driving Sanders' policies (UM-KC).
Hillary in contrast has not said much about monetary policy if Matthew Yglesias is to be believed but her comments about fear of growing the federal government by 40% suggests she is more like mainstream Republicans who believe in the 'balanced budget' approach. While this is likely to strengthen the current value of wealth accumulated over decades by baby boomers, it is also potentially deflationary. The ideas of neoclassical economics and moderate-Keynesianism drives Hillary's policies (Krugman).
On social issues, they're virtually the same. The question is, should the voters look to the future and pay it forward or try to preserve whatever wealth they have worked hard to build? To me, that's what this primary is all about.
Hillary in contrast has not said much about monetary policy if Matthew Yglesias is to be believed but her comments about fear of growing the federal government by 40% suggests she is more like mainstream Republicans who believe in the 'balanced budget' approach. While this is likely to strengthen the current value of wealth accumulated over decades by baby boomers, it is also potentially deflationary. The ideas of neoclassical economics and moderate-Keynesianism drives Hillary's policies (Krugman).
On social issues, they're virtually the same. The question is, should the voters look to the future and pay it forward or try to preserve whatever wealth they have worked hard to build? To me, that's what this primary is all about.
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The biggest problem in the Democratic debates is that both Hillary and Bernie feel the need to show deference to Obama. That keeps both candidates from speaking clearly about what needs to change.
How do Democrats get rid of the stumbling block that is this deference to Obama? Only Obama can do that. Obama needs to admit that if he had to do it again, beginning in 2009, he would do things differently, including:
-- Allow an open discussion about health care including the possibility of single payer, Medicare for all, which he dismissed out of hand.
-- Admit that climate change is a far more important and potentially catastrophic issue than we thought. It needs immediate, massive attention.
-- The major efforts in dealing with the Great Recession should have been directed at saving the poor, the working and middle classes, not the banks. That means New Deal type jobs and massive infrastructure investment.
Obama needs to open the way for both Hillary and Bernie to do better than he did by publicly admitting that he didn't do enough. Thereby he'd give the Democratic Party permission to do more than just incremental changes to his policies.
How do Democrats get rid of the stumbling block that is this deference to Obama? Only Obama can do that. Obama needs to admit that if he had to do it again, beginning in 2009, he would do things differently, including:
-- Allow an open discussion about health care including the possibility of single payer, Medicare for all, which he dismissed out of hand.
-- Admit that climate change is a far more important and potentially catastrophic issue than we thought. It needs immediate, massive attention.
-- The major efforts in dealing with the Great Recession should have been directed at saving the poor, the working and middle classes, not the banks. That means New Deal type jobs and massive infrastructure investment.
Obama needs to open the way for both Hillary and Bernie to do better than he did by publicly admitting that he didn't do enough. Thereby he'd give the Democratic Party permission to do more than just incremental changes to his policies.
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Your efforts to dismiss Obama's achievements are pretty thin. Obama didn't "allow an open discussion about health care"? He left it to our elected representatives, did he not, who had lengthy and appropriate open discussions . "Admit that climate change is a far more important issue [...]" You never heard of the Paris accords that Obama got going with hundreds of nations signed onto? As for the stimulus, Obama did as much as the Congress permitted him to do and he did it well, including putting a massive amount into green energy research--90 billion dollars.
Your arguments are specious, but possibly because you clearly are not a Democrat.
Your arguments are specious, but possibly because you clearly are not a Democrat.
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Where do you live exactly? Not here in the US among us...and did you vote in 2010 or sit out the election with your fellow liberals?
I for one remain an ardent supporter and fan of our current president. Sander's disrespect towards him and his accomplishments (Sanders led a move to initiate a primary run against Obama in 2012) reveals his ideological rigidity and total disregard for the realities in our country (i.e about ~50 of voters don't want anything to do with government, they vote republican).
I for one remain an ardent supporter and fan of our current president. Sander's disrespect towards him and his accomplishments (Sanders led a move to initiate a primary run against Obama in 2012) reveals his ideological rigidity and total disregard for the realities in our country (i.e about ~50 of voters don't want anything to do with government, they vote republican).
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I expect Steve C is a Democrat like me, and I'm just as disappointed as he is regarding the way President Obama handled the negotiations on the ACA. Obama indeed left most of the negotiation to elected representatives. By doing so, single-payer and Medicare for All were never considered. Nor was the "public option" that he promised voters. The "public option" was the most attractive aspect of the ACA, the key to making it work properly, and a component he eliminated all by himself.
The Obama administration's failure to investigate and indict Wall Street bankers for the most massive fraud in American history is unpardonable.
None of this means Obama has been a failure, and Steve C didn't say he has been. He suggested that Obama admit "he didn't do enough," giving Democratic candidates more policy flexibility.
Condemning fellow Democrats who dare to critique party policy and dogma preserves a leadership that is obsolete.
The Obama administration's failure to investigate and indict Wall Street bankers for the most massive fraud in American history is unpardonable.
None of this means Obama has been a failure, and Steve C didn't say he has been. He suggested that Obama admit "he didn't do enough," giving Democratic candidates more policy flexibility.
Condemning fellow Democrats who dare to critique party policy and dogma preserves a leadership that is obsolete.
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By next Thursday evening the Sanders' campaign will be in official Don Quixote mode.
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You're probably right. Which leaves you the choice between Trump and a windmill.
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Let's hope so. I am sick and tired of hearing about the revolution and the republicans smacking their lips hopefully that we will run him...oh, the attack ads just need to feature Sanders at his honeymoon in the USSR or with Castro...remember how the right tried to spin Obama;s chance meeting with Ayers...if I can come up on the spot with reasonable, even true attack lines on Sanders...what will the Republicans dream up. He does not stand a chance.
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Kostya I said basically the same thing about the GOP putting a hammer and sickle over Bernie's face in their TV ads to a Bernie Bros and was called an idiot. They are in an alternative reality and most have little understanding of politics.
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The essential pattern we Democrats must break out of is the thirty years of centrist politics where our progressive secular humanist values have been stomped out by the watered down political opportunism of Bill Clinton and others. I am so utterly appalled by the Clintons' attempts to quash our democracy and coronate Hillary before the first presidential debate ever took place. We truly need the democratic socialist revolution Bernie Sanders is wisely calling for--and I suggest we consider removing from office anyone in Congress who declared they were "ready for Hillary" before the current election cycle began. Claire McCaskill, this means you.
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You seem to not have an a GOP in your scenario- one that has been working for decades to disenfranchise people, started wars, ruined our economy and continue a legislative war on women and gay people. That the Clintons are your devil people is a choice, not reality.
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Kay -
Imagine how different the world would be had Bill Clinton not squandered his presidency with DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, "the era of big government is over"--and the Lewinsky scandal. He had a real opportunity to assert a progressive secular humanist agenda. He was a Rhodes scholar, after all, with a great mind and an unbelievably telegenic appeal. In retrospect, his presidency can only be seen as a grave disappointment. And one need only look at how his net worth has escalated to an obscene level in his post presidency to see that his personal goals were less about core Democratic party values and more about becoming one of the oligarchs himself. That Hillary Clinton thinks she is entitled to the presidency, that she worked premeditatedly to shut down any early opposition to her candidacy, is an absolute travesty. Bernie Sanders is the only honest individual running for president this cycle. If Hillary is the candidate, I will sit this election out, thank you very much.
Imagine how different the world would be had Bill Clinton not squandered his presidency with DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, "the era of big government is over"--and the Lewinsky scandal. He had a real opportunity to assert a progressive secular humanist agenda. He was a Rhodes scholar, after all, with a great mind and an unbelievably telegenic appeal. In retrospect, his presidency can only be seen as a grave disappointment. And one need only look at how his net worth has escalated to an obscene level in his post presidency to see that his personal goals were less about core Democratic party values and more about becoming one of the oligarchs himself. That Hillary Clinton thinks she is entitled to the presidency, that she worked premeditatedly to shut down any early opposition to her candidacy, is an absolute travesty. Bernie Sanders is the only honest individual running for president this cycle. If Hillary is the candidate, I will sit this election out, thank you very much.
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She voted for the Iraq war, and the rest of her voting record is no different from the GOP.
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What I find somewhat off-putting is a certain naivete on Bernie's part. The man is extremely bright and honest but he deliberately remained outside the mainstream of the Democratic Party and said that he chose to run as a Democrat because he knew an independent would have no chance.
Why then, being fully conscious of the superdelegate system, would he be surprised that the "establishment" that he clearly rejected for decades would not embrace him with open arms? Does he expect his called-for "revolution" to force a change of party rules to please him?
It does seem a bit ingenuous in light of an otherwise admirable political stance.
Why then, being fully conscious of the superdelegate system, would he be surprised that the "establishment" that he clearly rejected for decades would not embrace him with open arms? Does he expect his called-for "revolution" to force a change of party rules to please him?
It does seem a bit ingenuous in light of an otherwise admirable political stance.
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The people who chose to support Bernie are not just Democrats, but a lot of independent, and with Trump running, those with common sense chose Bernie. I would take a chance on Bernie than what the party has coronated even before the first primary. I am leaving the Democratic party after the primary if Hillary is the nominee.
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He's a superdelegate himself! He is absurd.
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The cannonizing of Bernie is really getting nauseating. It's really frightening how many people need to whoop themselves into a frenzy in order to participate in the political process. Bernie and his supporters are just the flip side of the Trump coin. The man has been in politics a very long time, and no one who has been in that long is still an innocent lamb.
I do believe that Bernie means well and it is not that I don't like some of his ideas; however, it bothers me that he hasn't done much in all the years he has been in politics and it really bothers me that he has no specifics on anything. Someone with all his years in the political process should be pulling out blueprints with detail to the Nth degree. It's not like he hasn't had time to think about how he'd conduct his "revolution". It's like he's just been winging it all these years and decided to stick his finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing and to contemplate if he'll go for it.
This country is in a crucial turning point and I just don't have the confidence to go with someone who is a veteran congressman who is unprepared to describe in detail how he is going to bring about a revolution.
I do believe that Bernie means well and it is not that I don't like some of his ideas; however, it bothers me that he hasn't done much in all the years he has been in politics and it really bothers me that he has no specifics on anything. Someone with all his years in the political process should be pulling out blueprints with detail to the Nth degree. It's not like he hasn't had time to think about how he'd conduct his "revolution". It's like he's just been winging it all these years and decided to stick his finger in the air to see which way the wind was blowing and to contemplate if he'll go for it.
This country is in a crucial turning point and I just don't have the confidence to go with someone who is a veteran congressman who is unprepared to describe in detail how he is going to bring about a revolution.
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Yes well HRC sure talks a lot but never really has a concrete answer to any of her proposals. Just like Obama before her.....empty rhetoric that the base ate up. She will reform nothing just like Obama, campaign and wall street reforms, fughetaboutit. Not going to happen with her she is beholden to any special interest group or business that hands over money to her. Good luck with that and you can't say you all haven't been warned.
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The list of Obama's accomplishments, without any support from the legislative branch, is long. Bernie is beholden to the NRA and 90 Americans die every day from this lobby.
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Bernie has a D- rating from the NRA. About as far from "beholden" as you can get.
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Some of us want an FDR Democrat (Bernie Sanders) rather than Republican-lite (Hillary Clinton).
What is so hard to understand about THAT?
(Yeah, she is preferable to any of the Republicans, but why settle for second best? And if you think SHE will get stuff done, please explain how she gets anything passed in a House with a majority of Republicans, who love her every bit as much as they love Barack Obama. I think Bernie has a chance of getting the House to flip, if enough people are enthusiastic about him. Enthusiastic about Hillary? Really? In what universe?)
What is so hard to understand about THAT?
(Yeah, she is preferable to any of the Republicans, but why settle for second best? And if you think SHE will get stuff done, please explain how she gets anything passed in a House with a majority of Republicans, who love her every bit as much as they love Barack Obama. I think Bernie has a chance of getting the House to flip, if enough people are enthusiastic about him. Enthusiastic about Hillary? Really? In what universe?)
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Old Bernie is no FDR. Saying it over and over doesn't make it so.
Just as Old Bernie is unable to offer any specifics about the pie-in-the-sky he promises, the Bernfeelers are unable to support their silly comparisons to FDR. In what way is Old Bernie like FDR?
Just as Old Bernie is unable to offer any specifics about the pie-in-the-sky he promises, the Bernfeelers are unable to support their silly comparisons to FDR. In what way is Old Bernie like FDR?
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Some of us want a candidate that can be elected- one who has already faced the rage of the right wing and come out ahead for it. Bernie is completely untested in a battle royal with the fascists that control the Republican Party.
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Amazing how the HRC crowd always has to resort to condescension and put downs to support their candidate. It's almost universal.
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For all the persistent attacks by Hillary and her supporters on Sanders' "narrow" message, what is her message? Stay the course? That's fine for the 1%, but when are the 99% going to be allowed to share in the prosperity enjoyed by the wealthy and Corporate America for decades? The ACA, for all the energy and "political capital" spent by Obama and the Dems, is not much better than what we had. In fact, for middle and working class people, it has actually been a step backwards. But Hillary thinks that's great. More trade deals, like NAFTA and the TPP? More nation-building and regime change? More power to the powerful?
If Bernie succeeded in defanging Wall Street, and renegotiating the "free" trade deals to become FAIR trade deals, he will have made a much bigger positive impact than all of Mrs. Clinton's "pragmatic" efforts.
And please stop echoing Hillary's claim that Bernie won't be able to get his agenda passed! As the "Amendment King", and as an Independent, he's been able to get things done with both sides, as compared to Hillary who has accrued even more resistance from the right than Obama. If there is one person who will NOT be able to get things done, it's Mrs. Clinton.
It's long past time that the NYT and MSM report the facts, not their partisan beliefs.
If Bernie succeeded in defanging Wall Street, and renegotiating the "free" trade deals to become FAIR trade deals, he will have made a much bigger positive impact than all of Mrs. Clinton's "pragmatic" efforts.
And please stop echoing Hillary's claim that Bernie won't be able to get his agenda passed! As the "Amendment King", and as an Independent, he's been able to get things done with both sides, as compared to Hillary who has accrued even more resistance from the right than Obama. If there is one person who will NOT be able to get things done, it's Mrs. Clinton.
It's long past time that the NYT and MSM report the facts, not their partisan beliefs.
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Yes, and the tooth fairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus will be there to help him overcome the obstructionist Republican Party. They feel the Bern too!!
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Do you think Hillary will overcome the obstruction? How? Why? Talk about fairy tales!
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Why the hostility, sir. As if the GOP doesn't have decades-old antipathy towards HRC. How does that suggest "getting things done?" And making "deals" w the devil is not a suitable alternative.
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That Bernie Madoff is behind bars and that Goldman Sachs wound up paying less in fines than they stole and not one person was charged with any wrongdoing is all about who stole from whom. #releasethetranscripts
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Tonight's debate is perhaps Bernie's final opportunity to shake up the race in a state where he must pull off a major upset to change the dynamics of the Democratic nomination. As Donna Summer sang, "It's the last dance."
The format of the debate is designed to allow the candidates to respond to recent attacks against each other. The focus will be on national issues that resonate in New York, like policing reform and Mideast policy.
The pressure mostly falls on Bernie, who must make a compelling case for himself and against Hillary, who is still leading in NY by double digits with less than a week before voters head to the polls.
One major obstacle for Sanders is that the debate comes so close to primary day that it’s hard to see how anything short of a major revelation or gaffe can shift the trajectory of the race. So far, Bernie has failed to move his poll numbers in NY. His numbers have not shifted much since the campaigns zeroed in on NY 2 weeks ago.
The format of the debate is designed to allow the candidates to respond to recent attacks against each other. The focus will be on national issues that resonate in New York, like policing reform and Mideast policy.
The pressure mostly falls on Bernie, who must make a compelling case for himself and against Hillary, who is still leading in NY by double digits with less than a week before voters head to the polls.
One major obstacle for Sanders is that the debate comes so close to primary day that it’s hard to see how anything short of a major revelation or gaffe can shift the trajectory of the race. So far, Bernie has failed to move his poll numbers in NY. His numbers have not shifted much since the campaigns zeroed in on NY 2 weeks ago.
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Hey are you following polls since Iowa? Well I'll refresh your memory, Bernie was behind in Wisconsin, Michigan, Missouri, Idaho, and Colorado. Do you remember now what happened after the people voted in those States? Ten points behind in polls is nothing, Bernie will win New York with or without the Independent votes.
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The dynamics of the race are set. Bernie would need to win New York by twenty or thirty points -- as well as Pennsylvania, Maryland, California, etc -- just to pull even with Hillary in the delegate count.
Consider this: Obama's largest pledged delegate lead in 2008 was 90. Hillary's is near 300 now. She's also won nearly 3 million more votes than Bernie, so, super-delegate-wise, they're supporting the will of the people and have no pressing reason to flip. Long story short, there is no mathematical possibility that Bernie will win the nomination, even if he wins every State from here on out. He needs to win every State from here on out BIG. Otherwise, since delegates are allotted proportionately, he'll never catch up.
Hillary's the nominee.
Consider this: Obama's largest pledged delegate lead in 2008 was 90. Hillary's is near 300 now. She's also won nearly 3 million more votes than Bernie, so, super-delegate-wise, they're supporting the will of the people and have no pressing reason to flip. Long story short, there is no mathematical possibility that Bernie will win the nomination, even if he wins every State from here on out. He needs to win every State from here on out BIG. Otherwise, since delegates are allotted proportionately, he'll never catch up.
Hillary's the nominee.
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The NY Daily News is spot on in its assessment of Bernie Sanders. Mr Sanders' rhetoric appeals more to people's emotions than to their ability to think rationally about the issues at hand. If he were trying to become the dictator of a totalitarian country he would be waging a beautiful campaign. But not in the United States. First of all there is Mr Sanders' unwillingness to negotiate and compromise on issues. If a Democrat takes over as President in January next year he or she will most likely be dealing with both a House and Senate controlled by the Republicans. The ability to compromise will be extremely important to the effectiveness of a Democrat president. His promise of free tuition at state-run colleges was found to be underestimated by 3 trillion dollars. With the Republicans dedicated to reducing an $18 trillion debt Mr Sanders would have zero chance of getting the two houses to agree to it. Mrs Clinton's proposal that people graduate from college with zero debt is much more realistic and achievable. Mr Sanders' goal of free health care for everyone is worse than the Obamacare that the Republicans want to repeal. And then he talks about a political "revolution" that he wouldn't have the legal power to carry out as President. Mr Sanders thinks he can run roughshod over the Republicans as well as all the checks and balances imposed on the President in the U.S. Constitution. He'll make a fool of himself as President, the Republicans will see to that.
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Clinton has shown a dangerous propensity for military interventionism for the last decade and a half and it is unlikely to continue. She matches Cruz on this as a danger to the World. Even Trump with his ugly comments on torture has said that the intervention in Iraq was a mistake. Clinton bases hear decisions on the current mood and not what it is right.
Just as the military interventionism only benefits the arms corporations she has shown a subservience to the financial interests of Wall Street as no other candidate except perhaps Cruz.
We know we are heading in the right direction with Bernie Sanders.
Just as the military interventionism only benefits the arms corporations she has shown a subservience to the financial interests of Wall Street as no other candidate except perhaps Cruz.
We know we are heading in the right direction with Bernie Sanders.
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Of course you're ignoring Sanders voting for regime change in Libya, but whatever.
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Not the right direction, but the extreme Left direction, a direction most Americans are not willing to go despite the socialistic rants of Brooklyn born Sanders and his radical agitators.
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I like Bernie, but he seems so materialistic. All he seems to care about is that the other guy has money and he does not. It seems so negative to focus your entire campaign on jealousy. I would say to Bernie - money isn't everything. There is more to life than money. I know I would not trade places with any billionaires that I know of. I am happy and content with my life. Music, love, art and community matter more to me than the all might buck.
Please consider expanding your message. Right now Bernie is all about the money, money, money. It seems a bit shallow.
Just a thought.
Please consider expanding your message. Right now Bernie is all about the money, money, money. It seems a bit shallow.
Just a thought.
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Sounds like you are comfortable with what you have. Many are not.
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Art, love, community, music - yes, but none of those are a reality for those who can barely survive on pathetic wages, who are stifled by health problems, and on and on. Bernie is addressing the possibilities for the 99% to have access to the bottom survival levels on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs http://communicationtheory.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/maslow-hierarc...
You might note that the things you list as values are higher up the triangle - it is widely theorized that one cannot generally attain these without the lower level needs being met.
Bernie is objecting to the fact that a tiny percentage of people and business entities are hoarding everything at the top, and that we need to revamp the system to remedy this extreme imbalance.
In essence, while some money is required, Sanders is fighting for the peoples' right to art, to love, to music... without having to live on the streets or work 60 hour weeks just to survive.
You might note that the things you list as values are higher up the triangle - it is widely theorized that one cannot generally attain these without the lower level needs being met.
Bernie is objecting to the fact that a tiny percentage of people and business entities are hoarding everything at the top, and that we need to revamp the system to remedy this extreme imbalance.
In essence, while some money is required, Sanders is fighting for the peoples' right to art, to love, to music... without having to live on the streets or work 60 hour weeks just to survive.
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Your thoughts are shallow!
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"Mrs. Clinton might have to . . . . convey a vision of the presidency more enthralling than the pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change."
Not for me, thank you. I do not need to be enthralled. The pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change is exactly what I am after. How about a boring, rational presidency without stupid international adventures and wide eyed, ill thought out new entitlements leading to congressional gridlock, and the appointment of reasonable, moderately liberal supreme court justices.
Not for me, thank you. I do not need to be enthralled. The pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change is exactly what I am after. How about a boring, rational presidency without stupid international adventures and wide eyed, ill thought out new entitlements leading to congressional gridlock, and the appointment of reasonable, moderately liberal supreme court justices.
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Why is the idea of a woman being paid to talk about what she knows so offensive? So what if Hillary has made money speaking to industry groups. I am glad they want to hear what she has to say, because I'm very sure that what she has to say is important and relevant and for the benefit of all of us. She has earned her place at the table, let her be paid for it, and let them listen. I'm with Steve Biko - the murdered South African revolutionary - on this one: if you have access to power, use your voice in the boardroom, not in the street. Go Hillary.
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Oh Puh-Leeze. Let's see some transcripts.
"I'm very sure that what she has to say is important and relevant and for the benefit of all of us." I am not. From the looks of it, it is one of the areas in which Senator Clinton and I actually agree.
"I'm very sure that what she has to say is important and relevant and for the benefit of all of us." I am not. From the looks of it, it is one of the areas in which Senator Clinton and I actually agree.
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I agree!
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It's relevant because it reveals how she will do little or nothing to rein the financial services industry. This is a woman who believes Dodd Frank had a huge effect when, in fact, Wall Street privately laughed at it. HRC requested a stenographer in her contract to transcribe these speeches. She also requested the fee amount in writing although she now says, "That's what they offered." She won't release the transcripts because she doesn't want us to read them. And she complains she won't do it until other candidates do the same except she has ONE Democratic opponent who won't play footsie w the same people who almost sunk our economy. She is patently dishonest and will behave no differently if elected.
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Big money in politics: Has anyone else been seeing these expensive TV campaign ads? Does anyone find them valuable except as a sleep aide? Is anyone planning to change their vote based on these ads? The biggest big money in the current presidential race went, I believe, to Jeb Bush. How is he doing again?
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The singular issue where Sanders gets it right is on the gun control. The idea that gun manufacturers can be sued for the illegal use of their product is idiocy. Are we going to sue car manufacturers for car accidents? Are knife manufacturers to be sued when one stabs another? The list goes on and on.
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This helps explain why a jury might disagree, and it really should be left up to a jury since no other industry receives complete immunity from lawsuits:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sanders-is-wrong-about-the-lawsu...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sanders-is-wrong-about-the-lawsu...
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The fact that public policy encourages people to acquire and practice with devices that promote a mentality conducive to shooting other people is a public policy problem.
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@ Sandra,
That was an emotional argument not a logical one. Of course the gun manufacturers can be sued if they sell a faulty product and as a result of the fault harm is caused. They are not immune from lawsuits any more than car manufacturers are. Why should they be subject to different rules?
That was an emotional argument not a logical one. Of course the gun manufacturers can be sued if they sell a faulty product and as a result of the fault harm is caused. They are not immune from lawsuits any more than car manufacturers are. Why should they be subject to different rules?
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The establishment is all in for Hillary......including this rag. President Hillary Clinton for possibly 8 more years? The same old same old for the middle class just muddling by while the rich and powerful get more rich and powerful. So very disenfranchised, so powerless, so hopeless.
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If that happens and it probably will I can't wait to hear the whiny comments from those who voted her in. They can't say they weren't warned. I relish the day to say We told you so.
If anyone thinks the gap between the rich and poor was bad under Obama just wait after four years of Clinton. More tax breaks for the 1% including she and her wonderful husband and son in law who has funds hidden in the Caymans. Oh to be a Clinton.
If anyone thinks the gap between the rich and poor was bad under Obama just wait after four years of Clinton. More tax breaks for the 1% including she and her wonderful husband and son in law who has funds hidden in the Caymans. Oh to be a Clinton.
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I was at the Sanders rally, actually as it was forming but only to attend a play at a church just off Washington Square Park. I was struck by the youth (?registered to vote) and the virtual absence of African-Americans and Hispanics. The people who weren't there (middle aged, registered, whites and minorities) will be voting next Tuesday and this anti-Israel, somewhat uninformed (read transcript of interview in NY Daily News, illuminating), Johnny One Note, who has befriended gun manufacturers (was it for money, votes or ideology or all three?) will be defeated decisively in the NY Primary and, while he may continue school will be out for the "Feel the Bern" crowd.
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While Hillary served on the Board of Walmart the largest distributors of guns. So you can put away your little hypocritical comments until you see what your candidate has done. Especially cashing those checks from Corporate America, just wait till they come knocking.
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No surprise about the "virtual absence of African-Americans and Hispanics". Sanders has really done much to reach out them, hence their lack of support.
Rather hard to believe that he and his supporters think they can have a "revolution" without the most disenfranchised and oppressed members of our society.
Rather hard to believe that he and his supporters think they can have a "revolution" without the most disenfranchised and oppressed members of our society.
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I said to my husband last night that he chose Washington Square Park precisely because it is in the middle of NYU's campus and it would draw the students who are his most fervent supporters. Not terribly surprised there weren't any other types of people there.
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I can't wait for next Tuesday when all this will be over and the Sanders circus moves on to try and keep his dream and Last Hurrah alive in other states. I've had enough of this joker's communist nonsense. It ain't gonna fly in America. You can tell because only in Greenwich Village would enough leftover hippies show up and buy his communal gobbledygook.
Thankfully, Sanders will be, God willing, almost Eighty, in 2020, and if he still has any of his marbles left, at least we won't have to put up with his democratic socialism nonsense again. Once is more than enough.
Thankfully, Sanders will be, God willing, almost Eighty, in 2020, and if he still has any of his marbles left, at least we won't have to put up with his democratic socialism nonsense again. Once is more than enough.
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This is just the beginning. I recommend finding some sort of peace with the new face of the progressive movement, because it is not going away.
I say this not as a college kid who loves a rally with indie bands, but as a grown woman, educated and professional, who has seen my chances of financial stability and a decent future sold out by the establishment of what I considered my own party.
Sorry it vexes you so grievously, but the watered-down neolib leadership has been a severe disappointment for many of us out here. I doubt we'll silently retreat into our assorted disenfranchised corners of the shattered American dream.
I say this not as a college kid who loves a rally with indie bands, but as a grown woman, educated and professional, who has seen my chances of financial stability and a decent future sold out by the establishment of what I considered my own party.
Sorry it vexes you so grievously, but the watered-down neolib leadership has been a severe disappointment for many of us out here. I doubt we'll silently retreat into our assorted disenfranchised corners of the shattered American dream.
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Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and there is no way he deserves or will get the Democratic nomination for President.
What Bernie is turning into is a shrill whining gas bag, to the point that when ever I hear his voice, I'm now starting to react as if someone who is running their fingernails across a chalkboard.
Bernie it's time to start thinking about hanging it up! I also getting sick of listening to your out of touch disenfranchised old hippies that have latched on to you as if you were their messiah. I know the majority of the Democratic party is getting sick of the Bern!
What Bernie is turning into is a shrill whining gas bag, to the point that when ever I hear his voice, I'm now starting to react as if someone who is running their fingernails across a chalkboard.
Bernie it's time to start thinking about hanging it up! I also getting sick of listening to your out of touch disenfranchised old hippies that have latched on to you as if you were their messiah. I know the majority of the Democratic party is getting sick of the Bern!
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Well said! I am 100% Berned out. Tired old gasbag hippie with a comb-over ("wild hair" my bum). No substance whatsoever. I can't stand the sound or sight of him. I will be reading and watching news very selectively over the next few months.
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I hope the moderators ask Hillary about her awful "CP time" joke. What in the world was in her head?
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Mayor DeBlasio made the reference to CP ...
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Isn't it interesting that so many people are making such a big deal about this? -- Especially since half of them probably never heard of 'CPT' before. And you don't hear a lot of Black people complaining , do you??
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If I recall correctly, it wasn't her joke. It was Bill DeBlasio's. She tried to cover for him by saying "Cautious politician time?"
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“To put down Mr. Sanders’s insurgency, Mrs. Clinton might have to break out of that pattern and deliver a message that genuinely excites the Democratic base… to convey a vision of the presidency more enthralling than the pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change.” Well said.
The problem with Hillary Clinton is her command-in-chief airs have been diluted under a hot-air veil of lofty rhetoric. A heavily sponsored candidate by Wall Street and K Street has no chance breaking out of their political and economic control.
Gullible electorate tends to believe her for being the possibly first and smartest female president in this country. This is a wrongheaded decision. Elizabeth Warren is more suitable to the position than she.
It’s generally accepted that George W. Bush was the worst president of the U.S. Barack Obama is Bush the second and Hillary Clinton the third.
The country cannot afford another aristocrat of the Clinton dynasty to rule it because only the rich, powerful and influential will benefit from any dynasty.
Some people don’t recognize the political revolution that Bernie Sanders launched let alone its widespread acceptance among the masses. They still cling to the long gone lesser-of- two-evil voting dogma. Such poor souls they are.
The political struggle is between anti- and for- establishment, which implicitly means between anti-capital and pro-capital or between revolutionary changes and the undemocratic status quo. She is for the latter.
The problem with Hillary Clinton is her command-in-chief airs have been diluted under a hot-air veil of lofty rhetoric. A heavily sponsored candidate by Wall Street and K Street has no chance breaking out of their political and economic control.
Gullible electorate tends to believe her for being the possibly first and smartest female president in this country. This is a wrongheaded decision. Elizabeth Warren is more suitable to the position than she.
It’s generally accepted that George W. Bush was the worst president of the U.S. Barack Obama is Bush the second and Hillary Clinton the third.
The country cannot afford another aristocrat of the Clinton dynasty to rule it because only the rich, powerful and influential will benefit from any dynasty.
Some people don’t recognize the political revolution that Bernie Sanders launched let alone its widespread acceptance among the masses. They still cling to the long gone lesser-of- two-evil voting dogma. Such poor souls they are.
The political struggle is between anti- and for- establishment, which implicitly means between anti-capital and pro-capital or between revolutionary changes and the undemocratic status quo. She is for the latter.
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Yesterday, The Times reported that Sec. Clinton received a "tepid" response from the National Action Network conference ... and NPR reported that the response was warm and enthusiastic. Hmmmm ...
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Bernie is an honest progressive rarely seen on the political front in the US. However, a serious concern of many, many Democrats who live in the real world is not what Bernie stands for, it is his electability at this critical time.
From a practical point of view, the Electoral College consists 191 votes in hard core Red States with another 130 votes in middle ground states like Virginia, North Carolina Iowa and Ohio, versus 217 Blue States votes. The Big Question: Where is the leftist political revolution called for by Sanders coming from?
It is one thing to "Feel the Bern", it is another to get elected in a nation where right wing extremism and Christian Evangelism are embedded in the culture of nearly half the country, stoked by well-oiled propaganda machines that spew hate 24/7.
As yet Bernie has been essentially untouched by the extreme right propaganda ministers that ran anti-Hillary ads for Bernie’s benefit. It is important to ask why
From a practical point of view, the Electoral College consists 191 votes in hard core Red States with another 130 votes in middle ground states like Virginia, North Carolina Iowa and Ohio, versus 217 Blue States votes. The Big Question: Where is the leftist political revolution called for by Sanders coming from?
It is one thing to "Feel the Bern", it is another to get elected in a nation where right wing extremism and Christian Evangelism are embedded in the culture of nearly half the country, stoked by well-oiled propaganda machines that spew hate 24/7.
As yet Bernie has been essentially untouched by the extreme right propaganda ministers that ran anti-Hillary ads for Bernie’s benefit. It is important to ask why
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I'll tell you why: because the Republicans want Bernie to be the Democratic nominee, knowing he is far more beatable than Hillary.
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No, he has not been "essentially" untouched, there has been total dead silence from the right wing. That's because the Republicans are down on their knees silently praying to Jesus that Bernie gets the nomination. The day after the convention they will run over him with a fleet of Mack trucks.
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The polls aren't saying so, he is defeating all Repubs in double digits.
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Enough with Bernie - the one-note-wonder! It's inconceivable if he's such a fine, fighting' , righteous Democrat that he fights the only capable candidate in the entire race. What is HIS motive by the way wanting to be president? I have never read anything about motive...He's a caricature, a Woody-Allen-impersonator. Doesn't anybody see through that tired "socialist" routine of an old guy who apparently has a bout with greed for power and limelight....Greed is greed, doesn't has to be the Wall Street kind...this says it all...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sabine-reichel/beer-with-bernie_b_9619884....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sabine-reichel/beer-with-bernie_b_9619884....
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You see, the thing is --he's not a Democrat. And he's not even a Democrat-in-name-only....So there you have it.
Superb. Are you the Sabine of the HuffPo piece?
Bernie is a Larry David impersonator. Woody Allen isn't such a curmudgeon.
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Today at a Sanders rally some joke of a speaker accused Hillary of the most dastardly things imaginable when it comes to corporate welfare. He should be ashamed and Sanders should leave us alone and get out of town after the debate. You have worn out your welcome Senator. Maybe this is why you failed to get anything accomplished for forty years up in Vermont. You're annoying and rub people the wrong way. Go home and good riddance.
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Are you saying they weren't true? Or simply appalled that such things were spoken aloud?
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Repeat the dastardly smear, Dennis. Or we'll just have to conclude you're a troll and you made this up. That's what's really dastardly. There's a lot of back and forth here-but, if you'll read carefully, the Bernie supporters actually provide links and facts; the Clinton supporters repeat how nasty Bernie's yelling is and how experienced Clinton is. Think about it, please.
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Not only not true but typical of old man Sanders when he sends out others to attack his opponent and then claim innocence. Typical communist misdirection. He knows he's at the end of his Last Hurrah and about to become a non-person in the Democratic Caucus.
I do not believe for one minute that Bernie Sanders is a saint. Years of working in corporate America (which is very much like politics), has taught me that those who come across as holier than thou have a very hidden and ugly agenda. Hillary may not be perfect, but at least she has a resume to speak of (aka as jobs). I fail to understand what Sanders has accomplished. What legislation has he passed? What policies has he championed? Other than opening his big mouth to make generalizations about Hillary and those that support her (oligarchs, Wall Street shrills, etc.) I see nothing of substance. I am a child of immigrants. Something is wrong with Americans. Yes, things are a lot more difficult now, but I see my Korean manicurists whose children go to Stuyvesant and from there on to become doctors, lawyers. I see my Eastern European friends and colleagues come to this country with nothing, and within 5-10 years own homes and have good jobs. And these kids want free stuff? Yes, Euopean social democracies have huge benefits, but it's paid for in taxes and service as in military and social service. Are these kids willing to go to the military every year? Stuff is never free and Sanders knows that. Sanders supporters hate Hillary because she doesn't promise free stuff. And yes, it's misogyny. Any woman over 50 who works with millennialist can tell you about the disrespect and loathing apparent in their faces. I hope Hillary sweeps the primary and the Presidency.
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It's short-sighted and offensive to paint Sanders supporters as misogynist. Sure there are some misogynists in the crowd. And how much of a role misogyny is playing in the election is an important question. But to say Sanders supporters hate Hillary because of misogyny is flat-out wrong and ignores the very real problems of Hillary's policies.
Furthermore, Sanders is not promising anyone "free stuff." That's a right-wing talking point from the uninformed. His website clearly outlines how to pay for his proposals.
Furthermore, Sanders is not promising anyone "free stuff." That's a right-wing talking point from the uninformed. His website clearly outlines how to pay for his proposals.
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Clinton steps out of her comfort zone every time she parrots one of Sanders ideas as if it were her own.
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As a citizen, what should be of the utmost concern is whether or not it's good for the country--and NOT who said it first.
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The concern is that she's saying something temporarily to get elected, and hiding her real priorities.
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Again I ask you. If as you say, Clinton is hiding her priorities--How do you know what they are????
Can't Bernie Sanders' legions of devoted apologists decide what they want already?? First Bernie's devotees whine and complain that the mainstream media is deliberately ignoring Sanders. How can anyone fail to appreciate the superior wisdom of Bernie Sanders over "that woman" they wonder. However, with the New York primary just days away, Bernie Sanders is finally getting plenty of press and TV coverage. Unfortunately that's still not good enough. Now Bernie's apologists are whining and complaining about New York media "hatchet jobs" which are being deliberately planted by the Clinton machine to make their hero look bad. Memo to Bernie's apologists--if your man wants to be president so badly then he'd better learn to take his lumps. No more circling the wagons around Bernie Sanders.
There's just no pleasing some people.
There's just no pleasing some people.
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There will be even less pleasing you and your ilk if this kind of butthurt behavior continues - you know you can't win the general without us, right?
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Actually the people that are whining are the superdelegates Clinton lined up before the primaries even started.
And Clinton supporters who can't believe some people prefer Sanders.
And Clinton supporters who can't believe some people prefer Sanders.
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So would she, Bernie or bust baby!!!
The chasm between readers and writers of the NYT is deep and wide reflecting the chasm between the rich and poor, the .01% and the 99.99%.
A chasm of despair unrecognised by a media controlled by the oligarchy.
A chasm of despair unrecognised by a media controlled by the oligarchy.
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Per Pres. Carter and Princeton, the US has devolved into oligarchy. The Clintons are a political formation of the oligarchy (the less-bad oligarchs!), and are paid handsomely to perpetuate it. CNN is a media formation of the oligarchy, and working to prevent threats to it. Bernie is a threat to the oligarchy. What to expect from the debate? A continued well-orchestrated collaboration to take him down. My advice to Sanders: smile and chuckle a little! It will drive them bonkers.
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I find it hard to understand how CNN, which is owned by Time Warner, can moderate and host debates without disclosing the fact that Time Warner has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Clinton campaign.
Is there not a blatant conflict of interest here?
Is there not a blatant conflict of interest here?
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And who do you propose could do this innocent sponsoring?
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Not to be rude, but have you any idea who Sanders' contributors are? -- No, neither do we... and $48+mil is A LOT!!!
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Sanders releases public information about every donation. As is required by law. We know where the donations, averaging approximately $27, come from. We don't know where the Hillary super Pacific money comes from.
Most voters have already made up their mind, and the debate is unlikely to sway significant number of voters unless some one made a very very bad mistake that cannot be overlooked. Hillary has already learned that she cannot come off as overly aggressive, and Bernie and his supporters have yet to acknowledge that his odd of winning the Primary may be worse than Hillary's odd of beating Obama back in 2008.
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Do you think Hillary Clinton will be apt to motivate the American people to rise up against money influence in politics? There is a clear difference between these two candidates.
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Nobody will be able to motivate Americans to "rise up against money in politics." We LIKE money in politics, we just don't want the other guy to have any.
Oh, and we'd scream like banshees at the minor taxes that total public financing would take.
Oh, and we'd scream like banshees at the minor taxes that total public financing would take.
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Who has received the most votes?
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Votes that would diminish after Tuesdays primary.
If Hillary had left sec. of state and taken a job with Goldman Sachs making $675,000 a year would anyone seriously claim she would not be influenced in her decision making by her employment?
Now multiply that by over 30 different special interest groups paying a total of $13 million alone in 2013 and tell me none of those groups have any influence over her decision making.
Seriously?
Now multiply that by over 30 different special interest groups paying a total of $13 million alone in 2013 and tell me none of those groups have any influence over her decision making.
Seriously?
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Bernie takes money from an identifiable special interest group, you know: Bernie voters.
I prefer them to corporations, but they are a special interest that expects somthing for their buck.
I prefer them to corporations, but they are a special interest that expects somthing for their buck.
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And your point is...
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Huh? It seems pretty clear to me, it is you that STILL does not get the point.
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If Senator Sander's supporters really want change, then they need to vote in off-year elections. I wonder how many who have been old enough to vote over the last ten years or so have voted in the off-year elections. Such voting is a real test of their dedication to change. Sadly, far too many democrats and independents haven't voted in the off-year elections allowing the GOP to prevent needed change.
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Registered to vote at 18, many years have passed since then and I haven't missed an election not even local one. Should Clinton buy the nom I will not be casting a vote for her, perhaps the Green Party candidate certainly not this woman.
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That "idealistic" attitude can backfire badly since it got us George W. Bush. Sometimes we need to be realistic to avoid an even worse President. But maybe an idealistic Bernie supporter would prefer Trump to Clinton.
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Guess what, you actually have to give people something worth voting for. Asking someone to trudge robotically to their polling station for the sake of the "party", with nothing in return, is reminiscent of Eastern Europe under communism. The Obama/Clinton/Schumer Democrats do not represent the needs of the vast majority of Americans and are then surprised that they can't muster off-year voters. Quite sad.
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The debate is televised on CNN. Those that cannot afford cable or choose not to pay its exorbitant rates will not have access.
What good is the FCC?
This is outrageous.
What good is the FCC?
This is outrageous.
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You can watch online on CNN.com plus a couple of other sites.
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KJ thank you for bringing this up.
I have previously, repeatedly offered this point in the Comments.
In Tucson for the next-to-last debate I could watch it on Univision...in Spanish!
How very un-Democratic for English speakers; the disenfranchised;those w/o cable.
I have previously, repeatedly offered this point in the Comments.
In Tucson for the next-to-last debate I could watch it on Univision...in Spanish!
How very un-Democratic for English speakers; the disenfranchised;those w/o cable.
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And on NY1.com/live
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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Hillary Clinton blows with the wind
("wind" is where ever the money is coming from).
She has no fundamentally honest tenants for governing...
She is opportunistic like her husband Bill Clinton...
If elected I would find it impossible to believe that the millions of dollars that flow into Bill Clinton's Foundation will not influence Hillary's policies and her actions to implement those policies....
Bernie Sanders on the other hand is truthful and honest and very consistent in his governing views and the purpose government....
I know he really cares about the people who elect him...
He is not bought off by Wall Street, Monsanto, etc.,...
I know that he will govern for all Americans not just the 1%.
I can't say that about Clinton AT ALL and I don't trust Clinton at all based on her past performance in government up to this date...
I have no interest in a continuing Clinton Dynasty....
Look what the extended Bush Dynasty brought us...the results of that were not good to put it mildly....
Good Luck Bernie
("wind" is where ever the money is coming from).
She has no fundamentally honest tenants for governing...
She is opportunistic like her husband Bill Clinton...
If elected I would find it impossible to believe that the millions of dollars that flow into Bill Clinton's Foundation will not influence Hillary's policies and her actions to implement those policies....
Bernie Sanders on the other hand is truthful and honest and very consistent in his governing views and the purpose government....
I know he really cares about the people who elect him...
He is not bought off by Wall Street, Monsanto, etc.,...
I know that he will govern for all Americans not just the 1%.
I can't say that about Clinton AT ALL and I don't trust Clinton at all based on her past performance in government up to this date...
I have no interest in a continuing Clinton Dynasty....
Look what the extended Bush Dynasty brought us...the results of that were not good to put it mildly....
Good Luck Bernie
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Sanders sponsored 781 pieces of legislation from 1991-2016
Clinton sponsored 731 pieces of legislation from 2001-2009
Who worked harder?
Clinton sponsored 731 pieces of legislation from 2001-2009
Who worked harder?
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If Bernie Sanders were as "truthful and honest" as you imply, he would stop beating around the bush and make public his tax-returns instead of hounding and assailing Clinton about everything imaginable.
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Sure at the same time Hillary release her wall street and all other corporate transcripts.
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I hope the moderators press Mr. Sanders on immigration reform. I'm yet to hear a legitimate explanation for his voting history. Mr. Sanders says he voted against the comprehensive reform bill in 2007 because the HB-1 visa program was “akin to slavery.” Yet, he co-sponsored a bill a few years later that EXPANDED that very same program to benefit the dairy industry. Coincidentally, the dairy industry is about the only major industry Vermont has. Mr. Sanders should not get a pass on this issue.
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Many years ago the immigration people wanted to crack down on the dairy industry (mostly smaller family farms, few corporate ones like NY and WI) and were told to back off by VT Congress people, because if they arrested the Hispanic workers, the dairy industry in VT would totally collapse. The kids left the family farms for other place. That explains Bernie's vote.
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If Bernie is showing us the right way to go, that doesn't mean we should follow him. It is crucial that he know where to go AND that he have the skills to get us there. Nothing has shown he has more of those skills than HIllary has.
Barack Obama has shown he has twice the vision and twice the leadership Bernie or Hillary has. Yet despite all Obama has accomplished, we are still disappointed, which is why we are turning to Bernie. But does anyone seriously believe Bernie can deliver more than a fraction of what Obama delivered?
Barack Obama has shown he has twice the vision and twice the leadership Bernie or Hillary has. Yet despite all Obama has accomplished, we are still disappointed, which is why we are turning to Bernie. But does anyone seriously believe Bernie can deliver more than a fraction of what Obama delivered?
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bush got a lot done
all of it wrong
all of it wrong
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The same question could be asked of Hillary then if she's Obama's "natural" heir. Bernie could easily hire people and put them into place to enact his vision in a way that works. Hillary may know what to do, but Bernie and Hillary are practically in the same boat about being able to accomplish any of their goals.
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I do.
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The tone of many Bernie supporters commenting here seems nasty, rude, condescending and angry. I will vote for the nominee, whether it is Bernie or Hillary and am happy we have two wonderful candidates to choose from, but can we refrain from the same snark the Right uses? Can we remember we are all on the same side and differentiate ourselves from the Trump/Cruz supporters and all their personal attacks in this all-too-long campaign season? Please, not more of the same Dems and Independents for Bernie. Let's show we care more about the future of our country and less about needing to be seen as right. Hillary supporters want the same things for our nation as you do...please calm down and tone down. Mean people move to the other party please. You will be welcomed there, no doubt.
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As long as we're asking for politeness, would you please add a request for Clinton supporters to refrain from insulting Senator Sanders and his supporters?
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In other words, you are saying "shut up and get in line" for the coronation of HRC. Sorry, too many of us are fed up with a corrupt, corporate war mongering party and it's drones telling us what to do. In that regard, we are not on the same side. You are on the side of large trans national corporations, Wall Street and foreign countries bribing your candidate through her "foundation." If you disagree, then you are mistakenly supporting the wrong candidate.
Do some serious in depth research, don't listen to what any candidate says. The Internet is basically free at your local library, and you will find more information about both candidates then you can digest. But you will find the essentials. Clinton is running a campaign of distortion, obstruction and diversion of the facts and her true record. I care far more about women and children than she does--I don't promote wars around the world, chaos and violence that creates all those widows and orphans. She clearly never met a war she didn't want to send other people's kids to, while her daughter is safely ensconced in a multi-million dollar Manhattan apartment. And we are not all youngsters, as I am a 65 year old, white man who is fed up with injustice and repression, both here and abroad. And I voted for a woman for POTUS in 2012, Dr. Jill Stein.
Do some serious in depth research, don't listen to what any candidate says. The Internet is basically free at your local library, and you will find more information about both candidates then you can digest. But you will find the essentials. Clinton is running a campaign of distortion, obstruction and diversion of the facts and her true record. I care far more about women and children than she does--I don't promote wars around the world, chaos and violence that creates all those widows and orphans. She clearly never met a war she didn't want to send other people's kids to, while her daughter is safely ensconced in a multi-million dollar Manhattan apartment. And we are not all youngsters, as I am a 65 year old, white man who is fed up with injustice and repression, both here and abroad. And I voted for a woman for POTUS in 2012, Dr. Jill Stein.
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Yeah, folks--stop it already with disagreeing, pointing out unrealisms, or noting that some of the numbers don't make any sense.
Oh, and don't you dare scream at St. Bernie about his gender, pick at him because of his spouse, yell about his screwups, or disinform about his stances.
That's reserved for the proselytizers on the other side.
Oh, and don't you dare scream at St. Bernie about his gender, pick at him because of his spouse, yell about his screwups, or disinform about his stances.
That's reserved for the proselytizers on the other side.
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Hillary Clinton never faced serious competition in either of her Senatorial elections; Giuliani didn’t run. She was not known for being the most responsive legislator to her constituents. If you had a problem, you called Charles Schumer’s office; he was the one who “gets things done.”
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If you don't like Hillary that's fine, but please don't invent your own facts. The Clinton-Lazio campaign was a tough race and he was indeed "serious competition". And she was considered an effective senator who worked well with Republicans on a variety of issues, including funding for NYC and NYS post-9/11 (as well as healthcare for first responders....most of which were her constituents).
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Sanders sponsored 781 pieces of legislation from 1991-2016
Clinton sponsored 731 pieces of legislation from 2001-2009
Who works harder?
Clinton sponsored 731 pieces of legislation from 2001-2009
Who works harder?
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Please Lazio didn't have a prayer in Democratic NY.
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I posted a bit ago but wanted to add to my question for Mr. Sanders about the "captive insurance" tax havens in Vermont. An article in The Green Mountain Daily on Jan 29, 2016 said that for corporations the "benefits are so good in fact that in 2015 captive insurance was on the IRS' "Dirty Dozen" list of abusive tax scams". And that for "modest licensing fees" and a generous policy that requires each board to have only person be a resident of Vermont, they get some real financial benefit. The Japanese company Marubeni had so many violations in just a couple of years between 2012-15 that they paid tens of millions in fines.
My question for Bernie is Why is corporate tax fraud on a scale big enough to be a percentage of the Vermont budget not a topic just like Wall St? Most of us have retirement money in Wall St and want it to function properly but who benefits from corporate-only tax havens in Vermont??
My question for Bernie is Why is corporate tax fraud on a scale big enough to be a percentage of the Vermont budget not a topic just like Wall St? Most of us have retirement money in Wall St and want it to function properly but who benefits from corporate-only tax havens in Vermont??
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You are asking the wrong politician. You should be asking Vermont STATE senators and reps. Bernie is in the US Senate, which doesn't manage local state corporate law, although it can have an impact in other ways. It's like asking Sanders why he doesn't keep guns (a minuscule number) from being transported from VT to NYC. I'd be willing to bet that the number of guns, especially hand guns or other than hunting guns, going from NY to VT, is greater.
But I think if you really care about guns, ask Clinton if she proposed that Walmart cease selling guns while she was on the Board. I'll bet there are transcripts of the Board meetings if she wants to prove she was influencing (and making money) off the sale of guns by Walmart. Also, ask her about her job pushing larger guns, tanks, airplane, and munitions to countries, 20 of which donated to the Clinton Foundation, as SecState. Countries like Saudi Arabia that are bombing Yemen back to the stone age, and Egypt which is using weapons on their own people, the ones who tried to establish Democracy in their country with the Arab Spring. There is a photo on the Internet of Bill and Hillary smiling and shaking hands with the current Egyptian dictator, installed by a violent coup.
But I think if you really care about guns, ask Clinton if she proposed that Walmart cease selling guns while she was on the Board. I'll bet there are transcripts of the Board meetings if she wants to prove she was influencing (and making money) off the sale of guns by Walmart. Also, ask her about her job pushing larger guns, tanks, airplane, and munitions to countries, 20 of which donated to the Clinton Foundation, as SecState. Countries like Saudi Arabia that are bombing Yemen back to the stone age, and Egypt which is using weapons on their own people, the ones who tried to establish Democracy in their country with the Arab Spring. There is a photo on the Internet of Bill and Hillary smiling and shaking hands with the current Egyptian dictator, installed by a violent coup.
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Independent: Your dodge is comical. No, I am asking the right guy- if he is the US Senator for half a million in a state making very large fees and making budget from shadow insurance practices under his own nose, you are giving that a pass? Why? The IRS calls this stuff right up there with the Caymans for corporate tax folderol - Mr. Sanders is on the hot seat as much as Clinton is for her ties. He's been there for decades. He does not exist in some pure bubble. Yes, you hate Clinton. My question is about Mr. Sanders.
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Citizens United is bad because it allows the corrupting influence of money in politics to proliferate.
Hillary taking tens of millions personally and through her campaign from special interests is not corrupting.
Explain.
Hillary taking tens of millions personally and through her campaign from special interests is not corrupting.
Explain.
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Mr. Obama took millions of dollars from Wall Street and other financial institutions. Mr. Obama also pushed for and passed Dodd-Frank, put in new regulations on financial advisers, extracted large settlements from Goldman Sachs, Chase and others.
Explain.
Explain.
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Is it corrupting for Mrs. Clinton but not for Barack Obama? Are the standards different?
Please explain.
ps. I'm always amused when the Citizens United vs. FEC ruling is essentially blamed on Hillary. Many folks aren't aware that the case revolved around a the Koch Bros giving money to CU to finance an Anti-Hillary film. Oh the irony.
Please explain.
ps. I'm always amused when the Citizens United vs. FEC ruling is essentially blamed on Hillary. Many folks aren't aware that the case revolved around a the Koch Bros giving money to CU to finance an Anti-Hillary film. Oh the irony.
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Who has "blamed" Clinton for Citizens United? Talk about a strawman. Wow.
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One has to wonder why Senator Sanders wants so many debates on BIG FOR-PROFIT television outlets. Why isn't he DEMANDING they be held by C-Span with neutral, politically educated moderators? Why does he constantly appear on BIG media to repeat ad-nauseum his "little people" rhetoric? He is a sham and the only thing he really has going for him is that he is a man. My vote goes to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton. SHE is the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL CAPITAL and SHE has not been hiding in Congress, yelling and voting no, for the past 30+ years.
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More smears from the deranged. Haven't you learned yet that writing about Clinton's so called QUALIFICATIONS IN CAPS is not convincing anyone, except the moderators of the comments section, who continue to post your screeds?
Clinton has been hiding in board rooms and lecture halls making big bucks from banks and corporations. Saying YES to corrupting $$$$ ! And Shillery's voice is much more grating than Sanders', and much more empty of fact and truth. There, I've descended to your level.
Clinton has been hiding in board rooms and lecture halls making big bucks from banks and corporations. Saying YES to corrupting $$$$ ! And Shillery's voice is much more grating than Sanders', and much more empty of fact and truth. There, I've descended to your level.
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Wow!
For the record, I believe the debate schedule and venues were set by the DNC, not the candidates so there's that.
Also, please stop YELLING AT ME and insisting I'm just a cretinous, knee jerk misogynist. No matter how many times it gets said, it simply isn't true.
For the record, I believe the debate schedule and venues were set by the DNC, not the candidates so there's that.
Also, please stop YELLING AT ME and insisting I'm just a cretinous, knee jerk misogynist. No matter how many times it gets said, it simply isn't true.
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@Independent. I agree about the ALL CAPS. On the Internet, ALL CAPS = yelling. I don't know why the mods here allow it. It also reeks of desperation.
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Yeah could we have something on the obvious discomfort zone of unlimited presidential war and what the candidates think about it? Please.
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"To put down Mr. Sanders’s insurgency, Mrs. Clinton might have to break out of that pattern and deliver a message that genuinely excites the Democratic base in a state that twice elected her to the Senate."
I wish one of the questioners would ask her exactly how she plans to accomplish things, any things. When I think of Hillary Clinton I can't help but think of the period in 1993 when she ws the" health care czarina, "proudly marched up to Congress with her proposed legislation, then very promptly backed off when she met oppotision. Now, with an even more recalcitrant Congress, how could she be expected to accomplish anything at all? Would she be capable of mobilizing people in the streets, as I suspect Bernie Sanders might. That is what I fear we are going to need if we are ever going to accomplish anything in this country.
I wish one of the questioners would ask her exactly how she plans to accomplish things, any things. When I think of Hillary Clinton I can't help but think of the period in 1993 when she ws the" health care czarina, "proudly marched up to Congress with her proposed legislation, then very promptly backed off when she met oppotision. Now, with an even more recalcitrant Congress, how could she be expected to accomplish anything at all? Would she be capable of mobilizing people in the streets, as I suspect Bernie Sanders might. That is what I fear we are going to need if we are ever going to accomplish anything in this country.
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@ellienyc: Thanks for mentioning this. No one seems to remember that Bill ran on the healthcare issue, Hillary was put in charge and they both promptly dropped it like a hot potato when they met resistance from the insurance industry. The Clintons decided at that point that pushing NAFTA should be their priority instead.
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Sorry, you do not know what you are talking about.
We HAVE Obamacare for one thing. She can keep building and improving it. He did get that through a thoroughly hateful GOP Congress. She had no help in the 90s- why you want to diss someone for even trying? Come on, Clinton has millions more voters than Sanders at this point- that is mobilizing at the polls. Sanders has done some great things for motivating youth. The negativity you have is unfortunate.
We HAVE Obamacare for one thing. She can keep building and improving it. He did get that through a thoroughly hateful GOP Congress. She had no help in the 90s- why you want to diss someone for even trying? Come on, Clinton has millions more voters than Sanders at this point- that is mobilizing at the polls. Sanders has done some great things for motivating youth. The negativity you have is unfortunate.
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"Now, with an even more recalcitrant Congress, how could she be expected to accomplish anything at all?"
For one thing, she has had 20 years of hard-earned experience since she tried unsuccessfully to get health coverage for all Americans. She hit a firestorm of resistance by the insurance industry and the Republicans then, but now she is 20 years wiser, tougher, and even better prepared.
For one thing, she has had 20 years of hard-earned experience since she tried unsuccessfully to get health coverage for all Americans. She hit a firestorm of resistance by the insurance industry and the Republicans then, but now she is 20 years wiser, tougher, and even better prepared.
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I'm voting for Hillary. Experience and accomplishments matter. You don't hire a super enthusiastic man with the worst record of dealing with Republicans (just in front of Ted Cruz) in Congress with the expectation that he will change things.
I'm sick of all the testosterone in government. It's time for a woman.
I'm sick of all the testosterone in government. It's time for a woman.
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There is a good reason why voters do not trust Hillary Clinton. For one, she is unwilling to release the text of speeches given to Goldman Sachs because she likely realizes that if she did, that would be the end of her presidential run. She also reportedly blasted reporters in Colorado with a speaker blaring white noise so they could not hear and report on what she said to elite donors at an event there. Why wouldn't she allow reporters to hear what she had to say? One can only assume she said things she did not want the general public to know.
Such lack of transparency reminds one of the Mitt Romney gaffe about the 47% in the 2012 election. Candidates who are secretive and lack transparency do not deserve anybody's support in a democracy.
Such lack of transparency reminds one of the Mitt Romney gaffe about the 47% in the 2012 election. Candidates who are secretive and lack transparency do not deserve anybody's support in a democracy.
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Or could it in fact be that the power of soundbites devoid of context limits a candidate's ability to speak plainly about compromise? To utter any of the many positive impacts of Dodd-Frank, fossil fuel development or our military presence overseas would automatically "disqualify" her from this race, at least according to Bernie Sanders and his supporters, and label her a Wall Street elitist, corporate shill, and hawk, respectively. We're all responsible for limiting politicians' ability to express and endorse rational, centrist policy platforms. The far left is just as close-minded as the far right, a quality that Mr. Sanders has exploited to great success.
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Hillary Clinton has always lacked transparency and worked within secretive small groups to try to formulate policy. She doesn't trust the average American to understand what she is doing.
That is the way she attempted to bring about health care reform in the nineties. And didn't that work out so well?
"Speak plainly about compromise" you say? Well maybe we should call her "Compromised Hillary". She doesn't have a principled bone in her body, unless she is boring us with that great need to support Israel.
That is the way she attempted to bring about health care reform in the nineties. And didn't that work out so well?
"Speak plainly about compromise" you say? Well maybe we should call her "Compromised Hillary". She doesn't have a principled bone in her body, unless she is boring us with that great need to support Israel.
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How about Bernie's lack of transparency with his tax returns? I guess what's good for the gander is not good for the goose?
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People around the nation want to stop the current train wreck of a Government that has been hijacked by big money. If New Yorkers want that to continue go right ahead and vote for Hillary. NY is no more liberal that SF/Oakland/Berkeley and yet SF elected Dianne Feinstein Mayor and she is as much of a "liberal" as Hillary. Which is really not that much. Actually not at all but if you can fool some people for some time, more will swallow the kool-aid and pretty soon people get used to it, its like putting a lobster in cold water and heating up the pot with a low flame and you know the rest. And Californians sent her as a permanent exhibit to the Senate. A lot of us regretted it but she has the "Democratic Machine" in control aided and abetted ably by little Diannes following in her footsteps.
Hillary may have been the right person some time in the past but the country need to find a new path and she will be unable to perform that task, she is obliged to too many powerful interests to do that and even if she had that desire when she got into politics it has faded. How can you explain how she became a millionaire and how the Clinton Foundation has a "yuge" bank account and powerful friends. But if you feel comfortable with it get into the pot, the water is nice and warm. You won't feel a thing.
Hillary may have been the right person some time in the past but the country need to find a new path and she will be unable to perform that task, she is obliged to too many powerful interests to do that and even if she had that desire when she got into politics it has faded. How can you explain how she became a millionaire and how the Clinton Foundation has a "yuge" bank account and powerful friends. But if you feel comfortable with it get into the pot, the water is nice and warm. You won't feel a thing.
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Oh please. That"big money" thing again. If you were to honestly sit down and take a look at all American Presidents throughout history, you would probably be amazed at just how many came from moneyed backgrounds.
This is not to say Corporate greed, or any greed is good -- but it is one of the tenets of Capitalism, and like it or not, that's what pretty much runs this country.
And no one, not even Bernie Sanders will ever be able to change that.
This is not to say Corporate greed, or any greed is good -- but it is one of the tenets of Capitalism, and like it or not, that's what pretty much runs this country.
And no one, not even Bernie Sanders will ever be able to change that.
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Look at FDR. He came from big money, so it's not fair to generalize. I am a democrat and a Hispanic woman, yet some of the best and most inspiring managers I've ever had have been white, Republican men.
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So tired of horserace articles. Why not cover the candidates' policy proposals?
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I'm with you 100%. The horse race angle is so shallow and unhelpful.
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It seems you'd like a debate on gun control and Israel outside of "Mr. Sanders's comfort zone".
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Sanders is far better re guns than Hillary ever could be, WHY? in 2008 Hillary went to rural areas promoting guns, yes guns, Then Senator Obama called her ""ANNIE OAKLEY"" she was so desperate to win saying If I am president I will not let them take away your guns, and today she has fooled a lot of people who are not aware of her history on guns, even the author of this piece appears unaware, this is just one of so many issues that Hillary completely dishonest, the list is long and growing re her untrustworthiness , there is a video of Obama calling her ANNIE OAKLEY seek it out
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This is absolutely correct. There is. In 2008, she touted her support of guns.
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What an unfair attack on Hillary was made by one of your daily Pro-Bernie or possibly Republican PAC paid media commenters, considering Bernie Sanders has not released any of his full tax returns! He released only a two page summary of one year, 2014. Hillary has released more than eight years of full returns. What is he hiding? For someone who wants to manage the nation's economy and solve all the problems with Wall Street, this is deplorable. He said on CNN he had released them, which was untruthful. He said his wife does their taxes. Then she says she has been too busy to look for them. She did get into trouble for giving false information on a bank loan application, so perhaps that makes her reluctant.
Let me help this candidate for President of the USA.
FOUR EZ WAYS TO GET PAST TAX RETURNS
1. Go to IRS.com. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc156.html - Copy or Transcript of Your Tax Return – How to Get One.
2. Log into your TurboTax account on-line. Print copy and save pdf.
3. Check your file drawers. Most people keep copies of tax returns. You can even have someone deliver them to you.
4. Look in your computer files for Tax Return.
Let me help this candidate for President of the USA.
FOUR EZ WAYS TO GET PAST TAX RETURNS
1. Go to IRS.com. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc156.html - Copy or Transcript of Your Tax Return – How to Get One.
2. Log into your TurboTax account on-line. Print copy and save pdf.
3. Check your file drawers. Most people keep copies of tax returns. You can even have someone deliver them to you.
4. Look in your computer files for Tax Return.
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bernies net worth is 500 thousand dollars
if hes a tax cheat, hes a really bad one
if hes a tax cheat, hes a really bad one
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@ Paula: you are certainly clutching at straws if you think Sanders' tax returns
are hiding a smoking gun. Shouldn't you be asking for Clinton's Wall Street transcripts?? I'm guessing you're in the 0.1 percent.
are hiding a smoking gun. Shouldn't you be asking for Clinton's Wall Street transcripts?? I'm guessing you're in the 0.1 percent.
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Then what's the darn problem? Clinton's are on her WEBSITE, for crying out loud, and the source of most of the yelling from you lot.
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Sanders has a solid record on gun control overall, and the vote re: whether gun makers can be sued for criminal use of their products is not much of an issue when you look at it closely. In fact, Sanders's position was valid. Should Toyota be liable to victims if someone purposely drives their Prius into a crowd of people? Should Staples be liable if someone buys scissors there and then stabs someone?
There are situations in which gun advocates compare guns to cars disingenuously, but this is not one of them. Some may argue that the intended consequences of the bill were positive—perhaps it could reduce gun deaths in a roundabout way—but there are also a ton of unintended consequences of bad legislation predicated on bad reasoning. Gun control is right and good in and of itself. That's the argument that needs to be pushed more successfully.
There are situations in which gun advocates compare guns to cars disingenuously, but this is not one of them. Some may argue that the intended consequences of the bill were positive—perhaps it could reduce gun deaths in a roundabout way—but there are also a ton of unintended consequences of bad legislation predicated on bad reasoning. Gun control is right and good in and of itself. That's the argument that needs to be pushed more successfully.
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Two Milwaukee police officers successfully sued a firearms dealer for more than $5 million after they were shot with a weapon that was bought illegally.
Officer Bryan Norberg and former Officer Graham Kunisch were both shot in the face in 2009 by a man who bought a semiautomatic pistol at the store using a “straw buyer” because he couldn’t legally buy the weapon. The shooter is serving an 80-year sentence.
The two officers were awarded combined sums of nearly $6 million, including $730,000 in punitive damages for Kunisch, who lost an eye and part of his frontal lobe in the shooting. The verdict was reached after nine hours.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/10/finding-a-gun-store-...
Officer Bryan Norberg and former Officer Graham Kunisch were both shot in the face in 2009 by a man who bought a semiautomatic pistol at the store using a “straw buyer” because he couldn’t legally buy the weapon. The shooter is serving an 80-year sentence.
The two officers were awarded combined sums of nearly $6 million, including $730,000 in punitive damages for Kunisch, who lost an eye and part of his frontal lobe in the shooting. The verdict was reached after nine hours.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/10/finding-a-gun-store-...
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In a TV interview, the Sanders response to a reporter about Sandy Hooks parents who want to hold gun companies responsible, a stance he voted against, was to say that Clinton should apologize to everyone killed in Iraq. That was his "position".
That is not good enough- if an industry can control what your doctor can tell you, can stifle medical research, can make guns easily attainable, block laws for reasonable control, and go after any legislator who dares to call even for background checks- which is what happened when they went after my own state senator and got him removed with absolute lies- then it is not unreasonable for these parents to try to get some sort of responsibility on the board. That Sanders let Wayne LaPierre write him up an endorsement cannot be made to look "genuine".
Since he is running a campaign on Purity then Sanders needs to explain.
That is not good enough- if an industry can control what your doctor can tell you, can stifle medical research, can make guns easily attainable, block laws for reasonable control, and go after any legislator who dares to call even for background checks- which is what happened when they went after my own state senator and got him removed with absolute lies- then it is not unreasonable for these parents to try to get some sort of responsibility on the board. That Sanders let Wayne LaPierre write him up an endorsement cannot be made to look "genuine".
Since he is running a campaign on Purity then Sanders needs to explain.
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The truth is Bernie voted against the Brady bill 5 times, against prohibiting passengers from carrying guns on Amtrak, and for giving gun manufacturers immunity from lawsuits. Bernie did come around in 2013, voting for a bill requiring expanded background checks and banning assault weapons, knowing full well that it wouldn't pass. He thinks that the States should handle gun control laws, other than background checks and assault weapons. Bernie won his first congressional election with funding from and the endorsement of the NRA. As a politician, Bernie couldn't stand up to the gun lobby nationally. Vermont does not issue nor require permits to carry guns openly or concealed. The do now restrict carrying guns in courthouses and school grounds, but that's about it. " Guns & Ammo" rated Vermont as the second-best state in the country for gun owners. According to a study by the Violence Policy Center, Vermont has the eighth-highest rate of any state when it comes to men killing women, with 1.58 victims killed per 100,000 people, and it's usually someone they know and with a gun. Vermont has a substantially higher suicide rate than the country as a whole and most of them are committed with a gun. The opiate problem has increased gun deaths there as well, and since it's so easy to buy guns there, Vermont guns are going to other states at increasing rates. It's a very small population state, so the numbers don't look as bad as the rates, but more gun laws may be coming to Vermont.
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Sanders is not a 'protest candidate'.
The real protest comes if Clinton gets the nomination -- when a sizable chunk of people vote (in protest) for the Green Party instead of her.
Anyone seen any general election three-way polls conducted yet between Cruz, Clinton, and Stein? Or maybe Kasich, Clinton, and Stein? They ain't gonna be nice reading for Democrats (and that includes all the down-ballot politicians who have fallen in line with Clinton).
Get real folks, there's no way this country is going to elect another Clinton -- just ask Gore!!
The real protest comes if Clinton gets the nomination -- when a sizable chunk of people vote (in protest) for the Green Party instead of her.
Anyone seen any general election three-way polls conducted yet between Cruz, Clinton, and Stein? Or maybe Kasich, Clinton, and Stein? They ain't gonna be nice reading for Democrats (and that includes all the down-ballot politicians who have fallen in line with Clinton).
Get real folks, there's no way this country is going to elect another Clinton -- just ask Gore!!
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Unless you have a way of foretelling the future, your "prophecy" sounds a bit like Donald Trump saying there will be riots and mayhem if he is denied the nomination. Get real.
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I will vote for ANYONE but Hillary, not a repub but ANYONE.....
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I don't need to foretell the future, it already happened before. Remember 2000 -- the last time the Democrats ran a DLC candidate (along with a Republican posing-as-a-Dem VP candidate).
The Democratic leadership is out of sync with a very sizable chunk of the Democratic Party. If anything, much more so than in 2000.
Please Lord, does anyone out there remember that Al Gore purposely avoided having the Clintons campaign for him because they were viewed as too toxic. Now we're planning to put one of the Clintons up for president, having even more unsavory baggage than before!
Someone slap me, this is a bad dream, right?!?!
The Democratic leadership is out of sync with a very sizable chunk of the Democratic Party. If anything, much more so than in 2000.
Please Lord, does anyone out there remember that Al Gore purposely avoided having the Clintons campaign for him because they were viewed as too toxic. Now we're planning to put one of the Clintons up for president, having even more unsavory baggage than before!
Someone slap me, this is a bad dream, right?!?!
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I always vote left, never voted for a Republican except once in my life, and that was for Sen Jim Jeffords of VT, who soon after became an Independent. Now I am a Sanders supporter, having voted for him for decades in VT, and the frightened Dems will be screaming and yelling for we Progressives to get in line, not be a "spoiler" or "split the vote" if the Dems manage to pull off the rigged primaries. But Hillary Clinton does not represent me in any way, shape or form. I am against oligarchy and bog trans-national control, she is for it. I am against environmental despoliation by extractive industries (oil, gas fracking) she is for it, until she is against it.
I am against intervention and illegal wars and support for Israeli's apartheid in Gaza and the West Bank, Clinton is for all of them. I am for single payer health care and free state colleges, she is against it. I guess you could say that we agree on woman's rights, as I am a very strong supporter.
But HRC is for illegal wars of choice, which create misery, chaos, displacement, polluted environment (depleted uranium and chemicals) and widows and orphans. In that way, I am far in advance of Clinton in supporting woman and children's rights--all around the WORLD. Just as Bernie Sanders is also. In fact, I have already voted for a woman for President. Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. And if Clinton is the Democrat nominee, I'll be voting for Jill Stein again. For me, Hillary Clinton is the "spoiler."
I am against intervention and illegal wars and support for Israeli's apartheid in Gaza and the West Bank, Clinton is for all of them. I am for single payer health care and free state colleges, she is against it. I guess you could say that we agree on woman's rights, as I am a very strong supporter.
But HRC is for illegal wars of choice, which create misery, chaos, displacement, polluted environment (depleted uranium and chemicals) and widows and orphans. In that way, I am far in advance of Clinton in supporting woman and children's rights--all around the WORLD. Just as Bernie Sanders is also. In fact, I have already voted for a woman for President. Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party. And if Clinton is the Democrat nominee, I'll be voting for Jill Stein again. For me, Hillary Clinton is the "spoiler."
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Bernie was a co-sponsor of the sensate resolution that allowed the US to join France and Britain in the bombing of Libya. So maybe not as peaceful as you think?
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Thank you for mentioning Gaza, and Hillary's enthusiastic support for Netanyahu, who daily inflicts death, indignity, and misery on the Palestinian people. These are the same kind of human rights violations that Clinton SAYS she has been fighting against her whole life, but then, when there's an election and a Clinton running for office, there is apparently no moral principle that can't be jettisoned in order to win.
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I'll look into it, thanks. He didn't vote for the illegal war on Iraq. Libya was Clinton's latest "effort" though.
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Let's play the drama out even though the race is essentially decided. Feel the Bern should be amended to Do the Math.
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This attack on Bernie because he doesn't believe gun manufacturer's should be liable for their guns purchased by criminal types from gun retailers is absurd. Manufacturers make guns. Yes, they ultimately are used by many to would or kill people. However, should candy manufacturers be just as liable because their sugar filled candies can lead to diabetes and death? Really?1
If HRC's best shot at Bernie and getting the nomination is gun control, then she should find another profession. It is obvious that she is lacking. I haven't even addressed the e-mail fiasco. She broke the law and should be prosecuted.
If HRC's best shot at Bernie and getting the nomination is gun control, then she should find another profession. It is obvious that she is lacking. I haven't even addressed the e-mail fiasco. She broke the law and should be prosecuted.
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I think after Bernie is elected and reimposes Glass-Steagal he should come up with a law that separates media companies into ones that report the news (facts) and one that report their opinion and/or require clear labelling with penalties for inaccuracies.
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I'm sorry, but the fact that this drivel has been recommended 18 times is truly frightening.
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Another Dem debate? Sorry but I will pass on this one and probably the rest of them in the future. I already know what they are going to say and who they are going to pander to and what they will promise. Independent and Green Party candidates don't get a fair shot in the political process in this country. The two party system in America is a joke and needs to be improved so every party can have a fair chance and participate.
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Bernie is watering a growing seed of political revolution, but he is too unprepared to navigate and command the realpolitik of DC to see it bear fruit. Once the rallies are over and the believers get back to working two and three jobs, a compromised political system will resume its course.
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It would be nice to be able to tune in on the Sander Clinton debates tonight. But as with previous debates broadcast by these cable services, I will not be able to do so unless I concede to Comcast's gun at my head demanding a costly service upgrade. What disappoints most is that Sanders-Clinton have not been able to find a venue for their debate that does not so directly enable the continuously upward flow of cash to the one percent.
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If and when Hillary Clinton ridicules and belittles Sanders for his plan for free public college, maybe the moderators can ask her about the $13 million she has taken from for-profit colleges. It's a valid question. After accepting $13 million from for-profit colleges, how does she propose to address and fix the student debt crisis in this country?
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Sanders proposal of free state college for all is best justified by the need for Clinton. Cruz and Trump voters to be better educated.
It was touching to see HRC walk with the Verizon strikers, no doubt she will donate her speech fee of over $200k to their strike fund!
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Someone should legitimately make this ask of her.
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She only walked with them long after Sanders did, see how she operates? It's standard operating procedure for Clinton. Always follow Bernie's lead. Then take the idea as your own.
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If she donated 1 red cent it would be a boatload more than Sanders is giving to other Dems from what he is raising.
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Clinton is Big Money's candidate. She will govern with their interests - which are also her interests - continually in mind. She's no Liz Warren.
She sounds good because it's been her shtick for decades but it's just talk to get her elected so she can further the interests of her 0.1%. She is a pol's pol with no core beliefs, an empty suit.
People want to believe. Her good, head-in-the-sand, supporters ignore the mountain of evidence that indicts her as the ooziest sleaze pol. They rationalize that it's all Republican lies - but it's not - and her impeachment will take the Dems down.
The Clinton's have been paid-off with tens of millions of dollars. This is a fact. The 0.1% has her in their pocket. She is not who you think she is. Transcripts, anyone?
Her supporters repeat that she's the most qualified person (to convince themselves?). They fail to remember her trail of poor judgment in matters large and small. War, anyone? As Senator for eight years she passed zero amendments, whereas Sanders is known as the "Amendment King" - he gets it done. McCain: "Bernie's results oriented".
As Secretary, there was no Clinton doctrine and no successful negotiations. But she did say she ran for cover under sniper fire, right? Actually, she unhurriedly met a young girl on the tarmac and received a poem.
Sanders has 30 years of fighting the good fight for the non-one percent - us.
He is qualified.
And against the Republicans, Sanders wins by far more than Clinton.
She sounds good because it's been her shtick for decades but it's just talk to get her elected so she can further the interests of her 0.1%. She is a pol's pol with no core beliefs, an empty suit.
People want to believe. Her good, head-in-the-sand, supporters ignore the mountain of evidence that indicts her as the ooziest sleaze pol. They rationalize that it's all Republican lies - but it's not - and her impeachment will take the Dems down.
The Clinton's have been paid-off with tens of millions of dollars. This is a fact. The 0.1% has her in their pocket. She is not who you think she is. Transcripts, anyone?
Her supporters repeat that she's the most qualified person (to convince themselves?). They fail to remember her trail of poor judgment in matters large and small. War, anyone? As Senator for eight years she passed zero amendments, whereas Sanders is known as the "Amendment King" - he gets it done. McCain: "Bernie's results oriented".
As Secretary, there was no Clinton doctrine and no successful negotiations. But she did say she ran for cover under sniper fire, right? Actually, she unhurriedly met a young girl on the tarmac and received a poem.
Sanders has 30 years of fighting the good fight for the non-one percent - us.
He is qualified.
And against the Republicans, Sanders wins by far more than Clinton.
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So the Democratic presidential race has grown increasingly bitter and personal. It's to be expected in any campaign. If feelings were hurt, that's too bad. Be glad it hasn't sunk to the level of the GOP race.
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Bernie is an ideologue. He is unmoveable on anything he has not already thought for the past thirty or forty years. This is why he can not hold a deep discussion, and always goes back to saying the same thing, avoiding even the topic. It takes a while to figure this out, and it plays into his supporters, many young and new to the political process,and not so young, who, nonetheless, have not taken an interest in politics until now. At first, I viewed Sanders favorably, until I began to sense this ideology, and a sort of arrogance. Bernie I believe is empathic and really believes what he says, to the point that he can not listen. Upon much reflection, I can say that his obsession with berating Secretary Clinton for Iraq seems over blown. Regardless of when puts a finger in that zone, it is a cauldron, so time is only one part of the picture--something would have come. I was not for it, and neither was the French Minister, Dominique de Villepin, who addressed the UN on the topic. But Bush was new in office and a lot of others voted with him. At least thousands of Kurds, tortured by Hussein, were freed. Or how about how he keeps on about how he was for gay marriage so early. I really do not see that that is so urgent--I was at first for Civil Unions, as I lived in France. Does that make me, if I were, a weaker candidate?? He knows that both Hillary and Barack tried to introduce a single payer health care and it did not work.
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Barack Obama never tried to introduce a single payer system, it was a public option which could have been introduced and he ultimately got cold feet about it. The Senate committee that sat to determine much of what went in to the ACA, had members in the previous year prior to the meeting, whom had received over 20 million dollars in campaign funds from the healthcare industry. Chairman of the committee, Max Baucas, a democrat, received over 2 and a half million himself and upon conclusion of the hearings, his two advisers went to work as lobbyists for the industry.
How is it remotely possible to implement anything close to a single-payer system with this type of powerful industry lobby and subjective approach by the members to these hearings that do essentially nothing other than tinker around the edges?
How is it remotely possible to implement anything close to a single-payer system with this type of powerful industry lobby and subjective approach by the members to these hearings that do essentially nothing other than tinker around the edges?
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When I look at the proposals of Bernie Sanders I am not sure they are actually good for the middle class.
What I see is the potential for a severe recession that could take the air out of this slow but steady multi-year economic recovery. A radical change in taxation, lending and the openness and flexibility of the economy could risk throwing many in the middle class into joblessness and foreclosure.
Furthermore, if JPMorgan, Verizon, and GE are evil - as Bernie seems to believe - along with many other multinationals (excluding Apple of course), where exactly are our jobs going to come from?
How come no one has asked Bernie if he's considered the risks to his proposals. How come he doesn't have to explain, or quantify the tradeoffs of his policies? Why are we so certain they will work to begin with? How much might they cost in terms of short-term job loss?
Bernie Sanders wants a revolution, I'm just worried his revolution begins with breadlines.
Long-time New Yorkers are practical and don't breathe in hot air. I expect the gentrified parts of Brooklyn and Queens to go solidly to Bernie. The rest of New York City and state, I expect, will be won by Hillary.
What I see is the potential for a severe recession that could take the air out of this slow but steady multi-year economic recovery. A radical change in taxation, lending and the openness and flexibility of the economy could risk throwing many in the middle class into joblessness and foreclosure.
Furthermore, if JPMorgan, Verizon, and GE are evil - as Bernie seems to believe - along with many other multinationals (excluding Apple of course), where exactly are our jobs going to come from?
How come no one has asked Bernie if he's considered the risks to his proposals. How come he doesn't have to explain, or quantify the tradeoffs of his policies? Why are we so certain they will work to begin with? How much might they cost in terms of short-term job loss?
Bernie Sanders wants a revolution, I'm just worried his revolution begins with breadlines.
Long-time New Yorkers are practical and don't breathe in hot air. I expect the gentrified parts of Brooklyn and Queens to go solidly to Bernie. The rest of New York City and state, I expect, will be won by Hillary.
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Many economists support Sanders's plans. Google it.
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170 economists support Sanders plans, plus a lot of citizens.
Note that Sanders' plans are not far out. Many other countries have them in place and they don't have half the money we have.
If you're worried about the cost of progressive plans, it would be better to worry about our current regressive plans - like wars. Wars and defense spending cost huge dollars but are line-item Expenses: they do not produce future gains, they are not investments like infrastructure or education. A tank is not a productive asset.
One can fund all of Sander's plans and have a bunch left over for tax cuts and debt pay-down and shoring up entitlements by just redistributing part of the budget percentage that goes to defense.
Sander's progressive plans will lift everyone up - and we need them to compete in the world. Because we ignored funding for progressive causes we are now saddled with poverty, crime, broken infrastructure, bad water, ill health, and a lack of good jobs.
We've been listening to the voodoo economics of the 0.1% since Reagan and allowed Corporate Capitalism to run rampant. They told us that redistribution should be from the poor to the rich and not the other way around. Then those who benefited most from our acquiesce squandered the nation's future on their obscene lifestyles.
Now the bottom 90% has 73% of the debt and the top 1% have 38% of the wealth.
This is why the country is not competitive and the people are not happy. We need to take out money back.
Note that Sanders' plans are not far out. Many other countries have them in place and they don't have half the money we have.
If you're worried about the cost of progressive plans, it would be better to worry about our current regressive plans - like wars. Wars and defense spending cost huge dollars but are line-item Expenses: they do not produce future gains, they are not investments like infrastructure or education. A tank is not a productive asset.
One can fund all of Sander's plans and have a bunch left over for tax cuts and debt pay-down and shoring up entitlements by just redistributing part of the budget percentage that goes to defense.
Sander's progressive plans will lift everyone up - and we need them to compete in the world. Because we ignored funding for progressive causes we are now saddled with poverty, crime, broken infrastructure, bad water, ill health, and a lack of good jobs.
We've been listening to the voodoo economics of the 0.1% since Reagan and allowed Corporate Capitalism to run rampant. They told us that redistribution should be from the poor to the rich and not the other way around. Then those who benefited most from our acquiesce squandered the nation's future on their obscene lifestyles.
Now the bottom 90% has 73% of the debt and the top 1% have 38% of the wealth.
This is why the country is not competitive and the people are not happy. We need to take out money back.
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Apparently, eating their political own is not just a Republican Party activity this election year.
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I don't think it is accurate to call Sanders a protest candidate. Tell that to the millions of supporters and donors to his campaign. I think people simply want the will of the people to mean something again. People are fed up with corporations and money influencing our government. Hillary has too many ties to money and big business to do anything to rock the boat. She is a very capable candidate but she will never put the people of this country first.
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For a self-proclaimed Socialist, it's highly amusing that money is always the first and last thing out of Sanders' mouth, and 'Wall Street' is almost all he ever talks about.
There are some people who are fed up with that too.
There are some people who are fed up with that too.
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Another Bernie Sanders will not come along in the next 100 years. So this is the one and only chance in our lifetime to get $$ and Wall Street lobbying out of politics. If we don't, the next presidential election will cost $3B, the one after that $6B,...with more and more laws favoring the .1%.
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When did we have our last presidential candidate who worked in the White House for eight years, been a US Senator for seven years and Secretary of State for four? May be 100 years before another one of those comes along too.
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Bernie's been in Congress nearly 30 years; how exactly has he moved on any of those issues in that time?
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A heated but civil debate will benefit all. What the Democratic Party cannot sustain is a bitter split over insults and innuendos. There is far too much at stake. A large margin of victory is required if Democrats are to have any hope of taking back Congress in 2016. The Bernie Bros seem not to care in the least about this political reality. "My way or the highway" is a puerile path to disaster.
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The Hillary supporters should hed this advice as well. Enough with calling Sanders supporters Bernie Bros (surprise! many of us are women!), clueless millenilals, sexists, closet Repubs, etc. If your candidate gets the nom, you are going to need us.
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Why does this comment sound like a veiled threat? -- And as for slander, that's being thrown around freely on all sides.
At this point, the only thing that should get us all worried is having Trump or Cruz in the White House.
At this point, the only thing that should get us all worried is having Trump or Cruz in the White House.
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Portia as a woman, if Bernie doesn't get it HRC will not get my vote. She hasn't come clean on a single issue, speeches, conflicts of interest raising funds from foreign countries while SoS. Nope she's a crook like Nixon was and she will never get my vote.
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Just following your coverage of Bernie Sanders in this run up has been enlightening. At what other time would you have given any public figure such short shrift for generating such a public display of support as Sanders did last night in the city that you are supposed to inform and represent? To describe the turnout which you allow to be 27,000 ( estimated as much higher by other news sources) as "several thousand" is the most pathetic attempt to misinform I have read, since, well, the Globe and Mail attempted to quell the left wing parties in our latest election here in Canada. To it's loss: many many subscriptions were cancelled, as citizens responded to it's obvious bias. I don't mind getting two-day old news from traditional sources, after I've read it on Facebook, as I have assumed that newspapers and hold themselves to a higher standard of responsibility in their reporting, and need to check sources. But when I see this kind of coverage from one of the great papers of the world, studiously ignoring a story that is happening in front of their eyes, while I am watching a live feed from the event the night before, I realize that you, just like the Globe and Mail are demonstrating two things: One: your subservience to corporate interests over your public duty to inform, and Two: your increasing irrelevance to the democratic process... because, whether you run it or not, the public is getting a very clear idea of this phenomenon.That's why they were out last night.
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I am more and more thankful and encouraged every day to read of Mr. Sanders increasing numbers of supporters. He is the real deal. A true modern day Truman in almost every sense in his determination to help return our democracy's one voice, one vote back to where it belongs, working citizens and taxpayers.
I'd be voting for Clinton IF she was campaigning on same platform. She isn't. Short of calling her a sell-out to the corporateers, I can still remember years ago during her husbands Presidency when she was claiming there was a Republican "conspiracy" out to get her husband. Funny thing is she was right about that, except that now she has become exactly what she accused the conservatives of then. A secretive taker of tainted money and power with very little vested interest of how to listen to the needs of real American workers and taxpayers.
I'd be voting for Clinton IF she was campaigning on same platform. She isn't. Short of calling her a sell-out to the corporateers, I can still remember years ago during her husbands Presidency when she was claiming there was a Republican "conspiracy" out to get her husband. Funny thing is she was right about that, except that now she has become exactly what she accused the conservatives of then. A secretive taker of tainted money and power with very little vested interest of how to listen to the needs of real American workers and taxpayers.
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Hillary Clinton would do well to give up on Bernie Sanders' record on gun control, just as he dismissed other candidates fascination with her e-mails. After all, the NRA gives him a D-. In the real world, that's what we call a failing grade. He is against assault weapons and weapons that are designed only to kill human beings. He is for universal background checks. His stance is very close to President Obama's, whom Clinton professes to admire and want to emulate, if you can believe her campaign rhetoric. Give us a debate about reigning in the banking industry, corporate welfare, and Wall Street behavior which are so entwined with harming the middle class. We want to know when we can leave the Middle East, when we can begin to see improvements in our infrastructure, health care, education instead. Don't get stuck in one of those, he said, she said things. We want the beef.
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If these comments represented a real cross-section of the political and intellectual knowledge of the left side of the political spectrum, we'd be in a heck of a lot of trouble.
For openers, guys, screaming at people isn't the same thing as a debate.
For openers, guys, screaming at people isn't the same thing as a debate.
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So what is your point of debating? Obviously, what you said isn't.. you're just pandering.
Just wondering -- Is "pandering" the new word of the week for the Sanders' camp??? It certainly is being used a lot in these posts.
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Maybe "pandering" is used a lot because that's what your candidate does. A lot.
I support Hillary Clinton because of her demonstrated leadership on women’s issues. As Senator she introduced the Paycheck Fairness Act, cosponsored the Lilly Ledbetter Act, and ensured that members of her own staff were paid equally (a sadly rare occurrence). As First Lady she championed the passage of the FMLA, led the charge on passing and implementing SCHIP, and declared in China – against the Administration’s wishes – that “women’s rights are human rights.” As Secretary of State, she established the first federal Office of Global Women’s Issues. She has spoken boldly in support of Planned Parenthood and was the first candidate to call for the repeal of the Hyde Amendment. The list goes on and on. I believe that, among other initiatives, passing the Paycheck Fairness Act, expanding the FMLA to include paid leave, and choosing justices with demonstrated histories of backing Roe v. Wade, will be priorities for Mrs. Clinton.
Although Mr. Sanders ostensibly shares the same beliefs and goals with regard to women’s equality, I don’t believe it’s a priority for him. Nothing Mr. Sanders has done in this campaign, from dismissing Planned Parenthood as the “establishment” when it is under literal attack to failing to have a single woman among his ten highest paid advisers, has persuaded me otherwise.
I want a president who will aggressively defend women’s healthcare, expand the FMLA and enact the Paycheck Fairness Act. Hillary Clinton will be that president.
Although Mr. Sanders ostensibly shares the same beliefs and goals with regard to women’s equality, I don’t believe it’s a priority for him. Nothing Mr. Sanders has done in this campaign, from dismissing Planned Parenthood as the “establishment” when it is under literal attack to failing to have a single woman among his ten highest paid advisers, has persuaded me otherwise.
I want a president who will aggressively defend women’s healthcare, expand the FMLA and enact the Paycheck Fairness Act. Hillary Clinton will be that president.
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This article asks:"Can Sanders fight outside his comfort zone?"
If not he can get someone to do that for him.
To whit:
“I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said" said Carly Forina.
Last night at a massive Sander's rally in NYC someone speaking for Bernie Sanders: "Medicare-for-all will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to big pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us," Paul Song said.
Women all over this country can 'hear' very clearly what the speaker chosen to speak for Mr. Sander's said.
Stalwart women will not after-the-fact let that be so easily 'disavowed' (erased) this morning.
If not he can get someone to do that for him.
To whit:
“I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said" said Carly Forina.
Last night at a massive Sander's rally in NYC someone speaking for Bernie Sanders: "Medicare-for-all will never happen if we continue to elect corporate Democratic whores who are beholden to big pharma and the private insurance industry instead of us," Paul Song said.
Women all over this country can 'hear' very clearly what the speaker chosen to speak for Mr. Sander's said.
Stalwart women will not after-the-fact let that be so easily 'disavowed' (erased) this morning.
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I'm a woman and that bothers me not one whit.
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JJ-
As I said "stalwart women".....
As I said "stalwart women".....
While a poor choice of a term, especially when the opposition is a woman, it (1) can be applied to men also, as I do all the time against Republicans, and (2) it is factually accurate. The record shows that.
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Like many, I fear that Sanders may be the spoiler of 2016 as Nader was before. This is very unsettling for me. I like him more than Clinton, but if she is close to winning and the Sanders voters create a void that can be filled by a GOP candidate I would lose complete faith in our country's future. I admit, I may be voting out of fear once again and I don't savor that. We need to think long and hard before we make a decision, this is a life or death game.
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Last night I listened to the Daily News interview with Hillary Clinton, and I was impressed. She sounds experienced, knowledgeable, prepared. Then I listened to the Daily News interview with Bernie Sanders. I was expecting him to sound worse by comparison, but that isn’t what I found. The two candidates replied in their different styles, Hillary Clinton emphasizing the numbers and the history and the how to, Bernie Sanders pointing straight to underlying values and big-picture goals. I had been wavering and was beginning to lean toward Hillary, but after I listened to Bernie in that interview, I came away feeling that no, he’s right. He’s the one pointing to the bigger truth. A mastery of facts and figures can sound impressive, but impressive words can also obfuscate. Daily News columnist Juan Gonzalez participated in the interview with Hillary Clinton and wrote about it afterwards. He writes only about the one question he asked in the interview, but he provides context that the interview did not, and it's revealing.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gonzalez-clinton-policy-latin-a...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gonzalez-clinton-policy-latin-a...
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good catch. It brings a different subject into the mix and reminds one of her historical judgments, and how they turned out.
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Those arguing for Bernie sound more and more out of touch with reality.
Let me pose a question, which I expect will go unanswered:
If the general election were held today, and the two candidates were Hillary and Bernie, who would win?
Now, try to keep this straight-- the general election, not the primary, right? Which candidate would have the support of the *majority* of the *actual* US electorate? Not primary or caucus participants.
Any honest takers?
Let me pose a question, which I expect will go unanswered:
If the general election were held today, and the two candidates were Hillary and Bernie, who would win?
Now, try to keep this straight-- the general election, not the primary, right? Which candidate would have the support of the *majority* of the *actual* US electorate? Not primary or caucus participants.
Any honest takers?
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Is there a point to this hypothetical scenario or are you just trying to scare/shame people into voting for the candidate that you support? If so, please stop. It's obnoxious, people have the right to vote for the people they believe in without fear, shame or pressure from others. I've written below about how this is all about demographics and the shifting electorate, so the answer to your hypothetical question would depend largely on how many boomer voters and how many Millennials turn out to vote.
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@vulcanworlds,
As I expected-- no answer.
But you do illustrate one of my points-- which is that many Bernie supporters are suffering a kind of delusion in which the primary is the same as the general election. (This is really true on the Trump side as well, but I think they are more realistic, surprisingly enough.)
As I expected-- no answer.
But you do illustrate one of my points-- which is that many Bernie supporters are suffering a kind of delusion in which the primary is the same as the general election. (This is really true on the Trump side as well, but I think they are more realistic, surprisingly enough.)
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Bernie
happy now ?
happy now ?
Now, a Sanders surrogate is reduced to referring to Clinton as a Democratic whore. If Sanders allows this guy back on his platform, it will give us another look into Bernie's socialist soul.
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Will the media also step outside their comfort zones? We do not need a re-hash of the last week of headlines and soundbites.
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Maybe one of the changes in this debate will finally see Sanders provide a full-throated denunciation of the blatant misogyny by his supporters, including his healthcare surrogate Paul Song, who called Hillary a "whore" last night in his speech that preceded Sanders. Not some half-hearted "I don't go for that.." nonsense 12 hours after the fact in damage control mode. A full disavowal and instruction to his supporters, both his officials and his mob.
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Clinton has a history of failure, so her experience level is much higher than Sanders, who has failed only a few times.
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Hard to fail if you're basically warming a seat in the Senate for over twenty years. People who fail actually, you know, DO things. Sanders? Not so much.
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@ kicksotic: Sanders is no seat-warmer. He has a long list of accomplishments.
Clinton did nothing as Secretary or as Senator, just kept her head down, which is why she never mentions her "accomplishments". There weren't any. She passed no amendments - although she did name a post office. As Secretary, she did get sniped at on the tarmac once, right? But no notable negotiations and no Clinton doctrine. She does have experience making lots of contacts that funneled millions into the Clinton Foundation.
As for Sanders, he's a get-it-done kind of guy. He passed many amendments (90) and is known as the "Amendment King".
McCain said, "Bernie is results oriented." Sanders has 30-years of fighting against both Democrat and Republican establishments for US - the non-one-percent. That's what qualifies him for the Presidency. He's no "seat-warmer."
Not even to mention his honesty, sincerity, passion, organizational skills, and judgment.
Now tell me about Clinton's judgment - her war votes (Iraq, Syria, Libya), healthcare debacle, emails, multiple flip-flops on gay rights, guns, black lives matter, etc., taking money from every corporation in sight.
Clinton's a pol's pol - she gets for herself and her 0.1 percent first, anything she does for the rest of us is incidental. Then, as a seasoned pol, she amplifies the incidental and hides the rest.
Clinton did nothing as Secretary or as Senator, just kept her head down, which is why she never mentions her "accomplishments". There weren't any. She passed no amendments - although she did name a post office. As Secretary, she did get sniped at on the tarmac once, right? But no notable negotiations and no Clinton doctrine. She does have experience making lots of contacts that funneled millions into the Clinton Foundation.
As for Sanders, he's a get-it-done kind of guy. He passed many amendments (90) and is known as the "Amendment King".
McCain said, "Bernie is results oriented." Sanders has 30-years of fighting against both Democrat and Republican establishments for US - the non-one-percent. That's what qualifies him for the Presidency. He's no "seat-warmer."
Not even to mention his honesty, sincerity, passion, organizational skills, and judgment.
Now tell me about Clinton's judgment - her war votes (Iraq, Syria, Libya), healthcare debacle, emails, multiple flip-flops on gay rights, guns, black lives matter, etc., taking money from every corporation in sight.
Clinton's a pol's pol - she gets for herself and her 0.1 percent first, anything she does for the rest of us is incidental. Then, as a seasoned pol, she amplifies the incidental and hides the rest.
Perhaps if Hillary had retired from politics we would have better candidates running for this election. This is all about ego and not about our country. The debates have not been good so far. Hillary has gotten a free past all along and now she has all the delegates lined up in her favor. She has nothing new to offer this country. We do not need 16 years of Clintons running our country. In addition to two senior citizens (Hillary & Bill).
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The argument that Clinton is more electable rests entirely on the premise that she is already so compromised and damaged a candidate that she can be damaged and compromised no further. Quite a remarkable recommendation w2hen you think about it.
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Good comments. But also consider Bernie hasn't attacked Hillary on Bill soliciting donations from foreign governments while she served as SOS. And we don't know the results of the e-mail investigations which at best will be neutral or possibly much, much worse. Whoever the GOP nominates they will make the election a referendum on her character. I am very worried who the country will eventually elect.
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It's just so sad that all the dems have to offer is Hillary or Bernie.
Yes, if only they could come up with a Cruz or a Trump. Then both parties would collapse and maybe we really could start over.
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We are a capitalist country and we thrive on big business!!! We are not a third world sociologist country!!!!
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Sociologist?
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Bernie strikes me as a likable person. I consider it a plus that he grew up in Brooklyn. However, what has he accomplished during the many years he has been in Congress? Very little. The heart of Bernie's campaign seems to be "income inequality" and attacking banks, Wall Street, big corporations and rich people.
I am not confident that Bernie has thought through his economic positions. For example, Wall Street is a major employer in NYC, and pays a huge amount in taxes to NY City and NY State. If Bernie is elected president, what impact would his anti business policies have on New York City?
Furthermore, he appears to lack knowledge and experience with regard to other issues such as foreign policy.
Bernie seems like a pleasant fellow, but I do not believe he has the substance to be President.
I am not confident that Bernie has thought through his economic positions. For example, Wall Street is a major employer in NYC, and pays a huge amount in taxes to NY City and NY State. If Bernie is elected president, what impact would his anti business policies have on New York City?
Furthermore, he appears to lack knowledge and experience with regard to other issues such as foreign policy.
Bernie seems like a pleasant fellow, but I do not believe he has the substance to be President.
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Sadly, we can very well expect a repeat of past debates. Sanders will promise lots and lots of wonderful things he has no realistic chance of delivering and he'll wag his finger at Clinton a whole lot and make lots of insinuations about her character.
Don't get Berned.
Don't get Berned.
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You mean like how Clinton wagged her finger at the Greenpeace activist?
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Thank you for providing an excellent example of 'tit-for-tat'.
Hopefully, tonight's Debate will have none of that.
Hopefully, tonight's Debate will have none of that.
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And Hillary will tame Wall Street. Sure she will. Right after she cashes their checks.
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Clinton needs to repeat and keep repeating that Sanders is being untruthful when he claims that he will be able to get his wish-list of legislation through Congress. Because if Sanders were to actually be the nominee, we are looking at a President Trump or, worse, a President Cruz. That, in sum, is what is at stake in New York and the remaining primaries.
Supporters of Sen. Sanders will eventually realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch. I just hope enough of them realize it before the Democrats manage to snag defeat from the jaws of victory in November yet again.
Supporters of Sen. Sanders will eventually realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch. I just hope enough of them realize it before the Democrats manage to snag defeat from the jaws of victory in November yet again.
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Sanders polls much higher than Clinton does vs any of the Repubs in the general.
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Hillary is strong on experience. True. But she strikes me as similar to an experienced surgeon who is in some way compromised and thus can only do undistinguished work. With that information I'd seek a second opinion, and a tremendous number of citizens are doing just that. When asked as a surgeon to cut or not to cut she would cut, and not to necessarily benefit the patient, but primarily (some would say exclusively) to benefit herself. As a multimillionaire she is disingenuous in her observations and behavior about wealth, power, and what she considers practical. A wrong decision about a war is a bit more serious than a wrong decision about what to have for dinner.
Many many people, particularly in Congress, dislike her. As president, she would encounter a Congress that would face her off over virtually everything. Everything. She is now being supported by establishment politicians whose only commitment is a sinecure position in her administration or a bone in a Clinton organization.
As for Bernie, a debate home run would be to show insight into foreign policy and elaborate specifically on how his educational and healthcare programs would be paid for. That's where lots of people question his ability to develop his programs to the practical level of funding and implementation. Bernie has not incited the antipathy that Hillary has over the years, and so Congress would be less disinclined to leave his recommendations dead in the water going forward. Hopefully.
Many many people, particularly in Congress, dislike her. As president, she would encounter a Congress that would face her off over virtually everything. Everything. She is now being supported by establishment politicians whose only commitment is a sinecure position in her administration or a bone in a Clinton organization.
As for Bernie, a debate home run would be to show insight into foreign policy and elaborate specifically on how his educational and healthcare programs would be paid for. That's where lots of people question his ability to develop his programs to the practical level of funding and implementation. Bernie has not incited the antipathy that Hillary has over the years, and so Congress would be less disinclined to leave his recommendations dead in the water going forward. Hopefully.
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Many people in Congress dislike her? -- Well, BIG surprise! -- What do you expect?? They're Republicans! They dislike EVERYBODY who isn't one of them.
If anything, it should be worn as a Badge of Honor to be disliked by them.
Another thing. All these 'anti-Establishment' rants are well on the way of becoming establishment themselves. Watch out.
If anything, it should be worn as a Badge of Honor to be disliked by them.
Another thing. All these 'anti-Establishment' rants are well on the way of becoming establishment themselves. Watch out.
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How is Hillary so strong on experience. Her tour as SOS was at best uninspired. She won elections as a celebrity - a stepping stone to the first woman president. She admits she is not a natural politician which means (1) ability to campaign and (2) ability to lead and (3) ability to build consensus. On all three she is week and inexperienced.
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Agree-- a President H Clinton will be frozen out of the ongoing Congress. The naked hatred & hostilities, and investigations will increase to levels not seen in the last 7 years.
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"...Mr. Sanders has often evaded and even struggled with thorny questions of policy."
Do you think Obama knew much about high finance and foreign policy before he took office? Of course not. That's why administrations have cabinet posts headed, ostensibly, by people who are experts in the fields that those posts address. In reality, of course, many of those nominations and appointments end up as political awards to people who are effectively not much more than administrators.
Nevertheless, that's how the system works. I wouldn't be too worried about the fact that Sanders is not a foreign policy expert. He has the potential to attrack a lot of very qualified people should he get elected.
Do you think Obama knew much about high finance and foreign policy before he took office? Of course not. That's why administrations have cabinet posts headed, ostensibly, by people who are experts in the fields that those posts address. In reality, of course, many of those nominations and appointments end up as political awards to people who are effectively not much more than administrators.
Nevertheless, that's how the system works. I wouldn't be too worried about the fact that Sanders is not a foreign policy expert. He has the potential to attrack a lot of very qualified people should he get elected.
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Uh, it's literally that the President did more work in the Senate on foreign policy in a few years than Bernie Sanders has done in three or four terms. Estimable Senator, Bernie is, but foreign policy has never been his strong suit.
Every answer cannot be, "Hillary voted for the War!"
Every answer cannot be, "Hillary voted for the War!"
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Excerpt from New York Daily News Editorial Board on why they do not trust (and neither should any intelligent, information driven citizen) Bernie Sanders:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/vote-hillary-clinton-article-1.2598171
As a basic premise, Sanders calls for enormously expanding the federal government’s role in American life, supported by equally huge tax increases — most of them falling on the wealthy but also hammering average middle-income earners to the tune of $4,700 a year.
On that score, he assumes that wage earners would happily shell out big bucks year after year because, trust him, health care would be free.
And trust him, raising government spending by 40%, perhaps by more than 50%, would be a boon to America — never mind that the prospect of smothering the economy frightens even left-leaning experts.
And trust him, the government would have enough money to provide free public college education to all — never mind that credible studies say he would fall short of financing all of his ideas by more than $3 trillion over 10 years.
And trust him, he would end income inequality by launching an all-out assault on America’s largest banks — never credibly explaining how forcibly breaking up the likes of JPMorgan Chase and Citibank would add a dime to a single paycheck.
As would happen with any ideological phenomenon, close inspection of Sanders’ thinking clarifies that trust is misplaced. So it was when he appeared before the Daily News Editorial Board.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/vote-hillary-clinton-article-1.2598171
As a basic premise, Sanders calls for enormously expanding the federal government’s role in American life, supported by equally huge tax increases — most of them falling on the wealthy but also hammering average middle-income earners to the tune of $4,700 a year.
On that score, he assumes that wage earners would happily shell out big bucks year after year because, trust him, health care would be free.
And trust him, raising government spending by 40%, perhaps by more than 50%, would be a boon to America — never mind that the prospect of smothering the economy frightens even left-leaning experts.
And trust him, the government would have enough money to provide free public college education to all — never mind that credible studies say he would fall short of financing all of his ideas by more than $3 trillion over 10 years.
And trust him, he would end income inequality by launching an all-out assault on America’s largest banks — never credibly explaining how forcibly breaking up the likes of JPMorgan Chase and Citibank would add a dime to a single paycheck.
As would happen with any ideological phenomenon, close inspection of Sanders’ thinking clarifies that trust is misplaced. So it was when he appeared before the Daily News Editorial Board.
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The New York Daily News is a tabloid. People outside of NY are bewildered as to why any intelligent, information driven citizen would actually read it.
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Don't fool yourself. There are a lot of people inside New York who wonder the same thing. Besides that, the tabloid press is not exclusive to any one particular place, and there's probably one in Chicago too.
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It is all rigged folks come on now it is like George Carlin famously said "It is all one big club and you are not a part of it". When are you all going to admit all of them politicians have been gaming the American people for decades they just give you the scraps to fight over and the people fall for the two party line it is actually one huge one.
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I find Sanders inspiring, but he does not fill me with confidence that he would be successful as president. I am confident that Hillary Clinton would be the best president and commander-in-chief out of all the choices we have, but her message is not always inspiring. It just seems more grounded.
Groundedness (if that is a word) is not an advantage in this debate, and it certainly hasn't been the watchword for the campaigns of either party. So the burden is on Hillary tonight to persuade those who have been seduced by Sanders' appeal, which is undeniable, even to people like me who don't think in the long term his platform is credible, however much it may speak to issues that are important to me.
I supported Obama after he won the nomination in 2008, and I think he will be judged favorably by history. I would just suggest to Sanders supporters that the "Hope" posters from Obama's 2008 campaign have not aged well.
danschorr.blogspot.com
Groundedness (if that is a word) is not an advantage in this debate, and it certainly hasn't been the watchword for the campaigns of either party. So the burden is on Hillary tonight to persuade those who have been seduced by Sanders' appeal, which is undeniable, even to people like me who don't think in the long term his platform is credible, however much it may speak to issues that are important to me.
I supported Obama after he won the nomination in 2008, and I think he will be judged favorably by history. I would just suggest to Sanders supporters that the "Hope" posters from Obama's 2008 campaign have not aged well.
danschorr.blogspot.com
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You raise the Carter question, will he get run over by the roadrunner?
I consult the otro lado of the coinage, will any GOP No Sayers be left to buffer even a Mr. Magoo?
I am seriously concerned we'll have no training wheels for this wild ride. But it beats this busted beater wagon, no bets off!
I consult the otro lado of the coinage, will any GOP No Sayers be left to buffer even a Mr. Magoo?
I am seriously concerned we'll have no training wheels for this wild ride. But it beats this busted beater wagon, no bets off!
I am constantly amazed by the "Sanders is not qualified to be president" comments to this article. Was Barack Obama any more qualified when he was elected in 2008 as a first term senator? Is Ted Cruz more qualified as a first term senator? Trump having never held office? Anyone who meets the Constitutional standards is qualified, so let's get over the whole "he's-not-qualified" nonsense and look at what these candidates are saying.
At this point in the race, no presidential candidate will have all the answers. First and foremost because the candidates are not privy to the inner sanctums and can't know the information the president has due to his office. That's why a newly elected president has a duty to appoint the best people they can get their hands on to their cabinet positions. Those are the experts who can hammer out the details.
Hillary Clinton has had different roles in government, but that doesn't mean she'll make a better president. I agree with Sanders when he says that it's not her experience that's lacking, it's her judgement and her integrity. I can't believe a word she says and frankly, I am not going to vote for her as a package deal with Bill Clinton.
To my mind, Bernie has the vision. He will lay the groundwork for a new direction for this country. Hillary promises little more than to continue with business as usual in Washington, and for this 40-something New York woman, that's simply not good enough. My vote will go to Bernie Sanders on April 19.
At this point in the race, no presidential candidate will have all the answers. First and foremost because the candidates are not privy to the inner sanctums and can't know the information the president has due to his office. That's why a newly elected president has a duty to appoint the best people they can get their hands on to their cabinet positions. Those are the experts who can hammer out the details.
Hillary Clinton has had different roles in government, but that doesn't mean she'll make a better president. I agree with Sanders when he says that it's not her experience that's lacking, it's her judgement and her integrity. I can't believe a word she says and frankly, I am not going to vote for her as a package deal with Bill Clinton.
To my mind, Bernie has the vision. He will lay the groundwork for a new direction for this country. Hillary promises little more than to continue with business as usual in Washington, and for this 40-something New York woman, that's simply not good enough. My vote will go to Bernie Sanders on April 19.
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Sonce the topic is the debates, you might consider that neither Trump nor Cruz has a history of getting anything done in government whatsoever.
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I can't remember EVER a time when a presidential candidate joined union workers on the picket line. But apparently, this isn't newsworthy at the NYT.
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And when the candidate speaks - and lies - that is also not news worthy.
Verizon paid 15 Billion in taxes over the last few years - so much for the "not one penny"
Verizon paid 15 Billion in taxes over the last few years - so much for the "not one penny"
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Correct, except for Hillary Clinton joining striking nurses during her senate run in 2000. Nice effort....keep trying.
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National nurses' union has endorsed Bernie.
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when compared to the status quo, "incremental liberal policy change" sounds enthralling to me
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I live across Lake Champlain from Burlington, VT and am inundated with local media coverage on Sanders daily. Interesting how an Independent politician suddenly decides it's more beneficial to run as a Democrat for President.
It's nice to promise free education, etc. When was the last time anything was really free? No, I don't feel the Bern. I am giving Hillary the benefit of the doubt and my vote next Tuesday.
It's nice to promise free education, etc. When was the last time anything was really free? No, I don't feel the Bern. I am giving Hillary the benefit of the doubt and my vote next Tuesday.
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are these institutions free
fire dept
police
schools
roads
bridges
dams
tunnels
libraries
no, theyre not free
theyre paid for by something called taxes
see, we collect taxes to pay for th things society needs
that how bernie will do it
anything else i can sort for you today ?
fire dept
police
schools
roads
bridges
dams
tunnels
libraries
no, theyre not free
theyre paid for by something called taxes
see, we collect taxes to pay for th things society needs
that how bernie will do it
anything else i can sort for you today ?
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Yeah, millionaires and billionaires, the Top 1% of the top 10/% don't want to pay more taxes.
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Maybe you can "sort out" the patronizing tone of your response.
It won't win any votes, and that's the only thing that matters now.
It won't win any votes, and that's the only thing that matters now.
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Predictions - Hillary wins the nomination, but loses or only barely wins the general. Why? Because her nomination will come with support from locked-in and insignificant parts of the progressive coalition.
Locked-in because it's not like older minority and senior citizen lifelong Democratic voters are going anywhere else at this point, and insignificant because no matter how many blacks vote for her in the South, she's still not going to win any of those states in the general.
What Hillary and Sanders represent is a major fissure developing in the Democratic party, between white gentry liberals - the Sanders camp - and the down market senior citizens and black voters of the Hillary camp.
But Hillary's people need Sanders' people more than the other way around, because it's the Sanders' people who more often than not represent first time voters, people in white, Western and Northern swing states, and who actually bring the money and energy. Hillary may rake in financial, establishment and Super PAC support, but so did that other political family dinosaur Jeb Bush. It's a liability more than an advantage, as is her name.
At some point the Sanders' camp is going to ditch or tune out on Clinton. The GOP establishment is largely in the same position, except their "inevitable" dynasty candidate was driven into extinction by an insurgent much more quickly. But then again, the GOP establishment doesn't have the benefit of the NYT there to crow for a coronation.
Locked-in because it's not like older minority and senior citizen lifelong Democratic voters are going anywhere else at this point, and insignificant because no matter how many blacks vote for her in the South, she's still not going to win any of those states in the general.
What Hillary and Sanders represent is a major fissure developing in the Democratic party, between white gentry liberals - the Sanders camp - and the down market senior citizens and black voters of the Hillary camp.
But Hillary's people need Sanders' people more than the other way around, because it's the Sanders' people who more often than not represent first time voters, people in white, Western and Northern swing states, and who actually bring the money and energy. Hillary may rake in financial, establishment and Super PAC support, but so did that other political family dinosaur Jeb Bush. It's a liability more than an advantage, as is her name.
At some point the Sanders' camp is going to ditch or tune out on Clinton. The GOP establishment is largely in the same position, except their "inevitable" dynasty candidate was driven into extinction by an insurgent much more quickly. But then again, the GOP establishment doesn't have the benefit of the NYT there to crow for a coronation.
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"white gentry liberals - the Sanders camp"
Graham,
Obviously you haven't had a chance to attend a Sanders rally.
It is Hillary getting the "white gentry" support.
Graham,
Obviously you haven't had a chance to attend a Sanders rally.
It is Hillary getting the "white gentry" support.
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Clark, then why have 99% of Bernie's wins been in states with primarily white populations?
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There is no direct causation there Boop..
My well to do town (HS student body 30% black) has its mostly white broad-lawn well-over $200,000+ households who just adore Sec Clinton..
Would you consider that Gentry?
No different than New Hampshire..
My well to do town (HS student body 30% black) has its mostly white broad-lawn well-over $200,000+ households who just adore Sec Clinton..
Would you consider that Gentry?
No different than New Hampshire..
hrc will continue th work started by bush and obama
if you liked what happened th last 16 years, and thought it was good for america, you will love an hrc presidency
if that thought repels you, vote for sanders
if you liked what happened th last 16 years, and thought it was good for america, you will love an hrc presidency
if that thought repels you, vote for sanders
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Both repel me. I'll be voting Republican.
I don't know what History books you've been reading, but there really is a SIGNIFICANT difference between Bush (both of them!) and President Obama.
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Obama is George W. Bush's third term. More secretive, more war like, more punishing of ethical whistle blowers, more spying on we the citizens, more drone bombing of innocents abroad. He is one of the main reasons Democrats have lost my vote (except Sanders) forever. A disaster, except for Cuba and Iran. Don't tell me ACA is a great accomplishment. Sure many more people have health insurance with premiums they can't afford, and deductibles that make it almost impossible to use the insurance. I made $6000 gross last year--my deductible is $4600 before I get any insurance support.
History will judge him as weak, capitulating and mediocre. And the first mixed race president.
History will judge him as weak, capitulating and mediocre. And the first mixed race president.
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The rhetoric of this primary is toxic enough to make people become cynical about voting, with all sides frequently taking offense, feigning outrage at small comments and eschewing substance. To me, it's clear there's a shift occurring and it lies with demographics: the babyboomers are slowly being phased out while the next generation takes over and Millennials vote for the first time.
The divide between Clinton and Sanders mainly has to do with economics, mainly that Sanders' platform favors the youth through expansive policy as noted by his $1T public investment comment and critique of Yellen for raising the Federal reserve discount rate recently. This can potentially be inflationary. As far as I know, Clinton has not said much about monetary policy but she did raise a specter of an enlarged federal government (by 40%) and seems to favor the 'balanced budget' approach. This can be potentially deflationary.
The question is, what's more important: stimulative policies that is beneficial to the youth of today (and future of America) or preserving the hard-earned value of wealth that the boomers accumulated over the decades? I presume people will vote for the candidate that is most beneficial to them but want to request that people stop the guilt-tripping, scaring or shaming people to vote for the people you want them to vote for. Your vote is your vote alone and trying to persuade people to vote a certain way is simply obnoxious.
The divide between Clinton and Sanders mainly has to do with economics, mainly that Sanders' platform favors the youth through expansive policy as noted by his $1T public investment comment and critique of Yellen for raising the Federal reserve discount rate recently. This can potentially be inflationary. As far as I know, Clinton has not said much about monetary policy but she did raise a specter of an enlarged federal government (by 40%) and seems to favor the 'balanced budget' approach. This can be potentially deflationary.
The question is, what's more important: stimulative policies that is beneficial to the youth of today (and future of America) or preserving the hard-earned value of wealth that the boomers accumulated over the decades? I presume people will vote for the candidate that is most beneficial to them but want to request that people stop the guilt-tripping, scaring or shaming people to vote for the people you want them to vote for. Your vote is your vote alone and trying to persuade people to vote a certain way is simply obnoxious.
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I can tell you right now that the Boomers, who's parents paid their way through college, are not going to pay anything forward. The Me Generation will sit there patting themselves on the back for all they've accomplished, while yelling at their kids to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and get to work fixing the country they themselves ran straight into the ground.
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It's completely human so I completely understand. The Sanders supporters of today might just find themselves in a similar pattern as they age and a new generation of voters challenge their ideals, it's what makes it the circle of life after all.
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But for the country as a whole, this is worrisome and only confirms my suspicion that there's simply too much greed in this country. I have lived abroad for a big chunk of my life and I've always suspected this. The other stuff is filled with stereotypes that get shattered but greed in one area where I felt the stereotype was true.
Socrates has a list of BIG contributors to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton in his post today. So, Socrates, who pays for the glossy four-color mailers we get before the caucuses from poor-little-Bernie? Who pays to have all these commenters stuffing forums like this one with bernie-mania. He might not be taking BIG cash but I'd bet my bottom dollar he is getting all kinds of BIG "donated" goods and services. The problem is the "donations" he is getting are from 60s era people like him who realize they dropped the ball when they sold out and are half the reason American democracy is in such peril today. Now they are armchair militants, urging young people to "revolt" against the establishment when they are as much of it as anyone. I'll take Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton. SHE hasn't been hiding in Congress her whole life and is the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL CAPITAL to be OUR next President.
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Hillary sure has made a lot of mistakes, Iraq War, Libya regime change, NAFTA, fracking -- to name a few.
I am a senior citizen who contribute a small sum to Bernie's campaign every month. This is where Bernie gets his money: from the people.
We all know who Hillary gets her money from: Big Banks, Big Insurance, Big Corporations (WallMart), Big Pharma, Big Oil (oh how she loves fracking); For Profit Prisons (can't legalize marijuana and diminish revenue source for Hillary's pals). And how many foreign governments have contributed via the Clinton Foundation? You know, you make a million dollar contribution to the Foundation -- and you get arms! So you can bomb Yemen into the Stone Age. Isn't that great?
I am a senior citizen who contribute a small sum to Bernie's campaign every month. This is where Bernie gets his money: from the people.
We all know who Hillary gets her money from: Big Banks, Big Insurance, Big Corporations (WallMart), Big Pharma, Big Oil (oh how she loves fracking); For Profit Prisons (can't legalize marijuana and diminish revenue source for Hillary's pals). And how many foreign governments have contributed via the Clinton Foundation? You know, you make a million dollar contribution to the Foundation -- and you get arms! So you can bomb Yemen into the Stone Age. Isn't that great?
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I think you fail to grasp a basic point. The speeches Socrates listed enriched Hillary PERSONALLY. Those speeches are not paying for her campaign.
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Yeah, it was really terrible to follow France and the other NATO countries in getting rid of that Quaddafi guy after his people revolted and he started bombing them, wasn't it? After all, he'd only bombed the one American airliner with a few hundred Americans on it.
And fracking--yup, terrible idea. Much better to've kept using more and more coal, importing oil from the Saudis, and sticking with a carbon-heavy energy system rather than starting the transition out.
And fracking--yup, terrible idea. Much better to've kept using more and more coal, importing oil from the Saudis, and sticking with a carbon-heavy energy system rather than starting the transition out.
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For the first time in my life, I switched from an Independent to Democrat last year (because if you waited till 2016, guess what... the state won't let you vote in a primary). It was for the sole purpose of voting for Sanders in the New York primary. Closed primaries are a pox on our democracy.
Sanders in 2016, Sanders for the future.
Sanders in 2016, Sanders for the future.
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We live in a republic not a democracy.
And this is a vote for the Democratic Party to pick their nominee, call me crazy but democrats have a right to pick their nominee.
Voter suppression via voter ID laws, now there's something that's actually a pox on our republic.
And this is a vote for the Democratic Party to pick their nominee, call me crazy but democrats have a right to pick their nominee.
Voter suppression via voter ID laws, now there's something that's actually a pox on our republic.
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Thank you.
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Good for you for being prepared to switch. I had to switch in order to vote for Senator Sanders here in Oregon in May, but we can do it as late as three weeks before the primary.
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Well if every voting adult who was at that rally last night are registered Democrats who can vote next Tuesday then I will say Hillary is in trouble. However, I suspect many, many of them are not registered Democrats nor even registered to vote so will keep my fingers crossed and send up a prayer.
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Why do you suspect this? Of course there are also many many Bernie supporters who were not at the rally.
But don't worry; I am pretty sure Wall Street will get the President Wall Street wants.
But don't worry; I am pretty sure Wall Street will get the President Wall Street wants.
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MSNBC actually tried to do a hilarious live segment on this, when they went down the line of Sanders supporters trying to prove none of them were registered. Guess what? They all were.
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Well - I am not for Wall Street and I don't think Hillary Clinton is for Wall Street. I think one liners and dog whistle phrases are simplistic and that the world we live in is more complex than catchy one liners. There is much truth to what Sanders is saying. But he is wrong to just throw out accusations about the trade bills and Glass Steagall. Joseph Stiglitz and Elizabeth Warren have said that Glass Steagall did not cause the 2008 crash - quote "I jAs for the FDIC-insured commercial banks that ran into trouble, the record is also clear: what got them into trouble were not activities restricted by Glass-Steagall. Their problems arose from investments in residential mortgages and residential mortgage-backed securities—investments they had always been free to engage in." I just happen to believe that we can change what we need to change the way change has always come about - incrementally.
Hey maybe I'm getting old. I simply cringe when I hear the word revolution and I have a sneaky suspicion given his background Sanders does not only mean a policy revolution.
If we are going to hold Hillary accountable for things that occurred 22 years ago I am going to take him at his word when years ago he praised the Sandinistas and Castro and held his very, very far left views. I think he still holds those views no matter how much they are crouched in the "Democratic Socialist" meme.
Hey maybe I'm getting old. I simply cringe when I hear the word revolution and I have a sneaky suspicion given his background Sanders does not only mean a policy revolution.
If we are going to hold Hillary accountable for things that occurred 22 years ago I am going to take him at his word when years ago he praised the Sandinistas and Castro and held his very, very far left views. I think he still holds those views no matter how much they are crouched in the "Democratic Socialist" meme.
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Bernie has been nothing if not consistent in speaking out against the same things now as he did back in the 70's. Unfortunately, we treat the symptoms while the irritants remain.
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Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton is all privileged plutocrat corrupt crony capitalst ancient white female straight out of Park Ridge, Illinois, Little Rock, Arkansas, Washington, D.C. and Chappaqua, New York. Mr. Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is an immoral degenerate serial adulterer cowardly draft dodging illegal drug using lump of arrogant amoral inhumane hubris.
Hillary aided and abetted Bill's innate misogyny in order to fly near the political power of the POTUS White House Sun. But remember Sister Souljah. Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers etc.
Scheme Clinton has never met honor, truth, principle nor courage. Letting these two barbarians back into plunder and pillage more American blood and treasure again would be a disaster.
Hillary aided and abetted Bill's innate misogyny in order to fly near the political power of the POTUS White House Sun. But remember Sister Souljah. Monica Lewinsky and Gennifer Flowers etc.
Scheme Clinton has never met honor, truth, principle nor courage. Letting these two barbarians back into plunder and pillage more American blood and treasure again would be a disaster.
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So my guess is you are voting for trump or Cruz or whom ever the GOP throws out to vote for.
Thanks for the Hillary bash.
Thanks for the Hillary bash.
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Don't forget Arkie's covered for the Hood back when Hot Springs helped heal those with polio and well oiled heels as well. Many a Chicago Outfitter held up in Hot Springs waiting for the smoke signals. So did Chin, if we're going all in on it, Costello.
LOVE YOUR COMMENT!!!!! And so very deliciously true.
But you are preaching to the choir, the Hill and Bill acolytes will see nothing wrong with this. That is a sad fact filled with hypocrisy.
But you are preaching to the choir, the Hill and Bill acolytes will see nothing wrong with this. That is a sad fact filled with hypocrisy.
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Over and over and over again, I hear "Yeah, but how will Sanders get anything done in the face of blistering opposition from the Congressional GOP?" posed as the sort of smug rhetorical question that's supposed to end the conversation.
Fine, let's posit that he can't. Now a rhetorical question of my own: Is anyone really naive enough to think they would be any kinder to Clinton? They've laid down in front of the Obama bus at every turn. I think it's fair to say that's the game plan for as long as there are Democrats on earth, let alone in the White House.
If you're just looking to grease the wheels on Capitol Hill, it's pretty clear they'll be appeased only if a Republican is elected. So for purposes of weighing the Democratic candidates' virtues, it's virtually irrelevant.
Fine, let's posit that he can't. Now a rhetorical question of my own: Is anyone really naive enough to think they would be any kinder to Clinton? They've laid down in front of the Obama bus at every turn. I think it's fair to say that's the game plan for as long as there are Democrats on earth, let alone in the White House.
If you're just looking to grease the wheels on Capitol Hill, it's pretty clear they'll be appeased only if a Republican is elected. So for purposes of weighing the Democratic candidates' virtues, it's virtually irrelevant.
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So, the choice is who do you want to see take on the Congress, unless they go over to the Dems with the rest of those tired of the GOPs saw and bones?
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If Clinton is the nominee, just wait till the Republicans get through with her in the campaign, they are salivating.
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Mike: You say, "...how will Sanders get anything done in the face of blistering opposition from the Congressional GOP?"
This question is a tragic consequence of poor coverage of Sanders's campaign. Sanders is bringing with him a very large, nationwide grassroots movement... one already in motion, gearing up to replace establishment politicians in local and national offices... just look at Canova ready to replace the corrupt Wasserman-Schultz--it's already happening. A Sanders administration will mean a new congress. It will mean truly progressive policies... and NOT the least of which will be dealing with climate change. We just CAN'T afford another establishment politician. The world CANNOT afford another establishment politician.
This question is a tragic consequence of poor coverage of Sanders's campaign. Sanders is bringing with him a very large, nationwide grassroots movement... one already in motion, gearing up to replace establishment politicians in local and national offices... just look at Canova ready to replace the corrupt Wasserman-Schultz--it's already happening. A Sanders administration will mean a new congress. It will mean truly progressive policies... and NOT the least of which will be dealing with climate change. We just CAN'T afford another establishment politician. The world CANNOT afford another establishment politician.
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I am a long time Bernie supporter. I listened to him on "Fridays lunch with Bernie" on the Thom Hartmann progressive radio show these past 8 years. I am an idealist and appreciate the conversation and mega movement that Bernie's campaign has brought into the light of this election.
This is just the beginning, creating a revolutionary mega movement is the first layer of change.
I am an idealist and also a realist. What IS at stake IMMEDIATELY is the Supreme Court. I want to make sure we get a democrat president to select the next available seat(s). I want to see Citzens United over turned. I want to protect a woman's right to choose, I want to protect SS and Medicare, I want our voting rights restored!
Scalias passing in February has proven just how hard the GOP will work to keep the bench filled with conservatives. Look at the unconstitutional obstruction by the republicans, not allowing our current president to fulfill his constitutional duties.
I want to support Bernie in the primary here, AND YET I want a Democrat who will be able to withstand and overcome the ruthless attacks the republicans will deliver to the democratic nominee. We already have seen how nasty they fight amongst themselves.
I am not sure Bernie has the right armor to combat them.
I am very torn.
This is just the beginning, creating a revolutionary mega movement is the first layer of change.
I am an idealist and also a realist. What IS at stake IMMEDIATELY is the Supreme Court. I want to make sure we get a democrat president to select the next available seat(s). I want to see Citzens United over turned. I want to protect a woman's right to choose, I want to protect SS and Medicare, I want our voting rights restored!
Scalias passing in February has proven just how hard the GOP will work to keep the bench filled with conservatives. Look at the unconstitutional obstruction by the republicans, not allowing our current president to fulfill his constitutional duties.
I want to support Bernie in the primary here, AND YET I want a Democrat who will be able to withstand and overcome the ruthless attacks the republicans will deliver to the democratic nominee. We already have seen how nasty they fight amongst themselves.
I am not sure Bernie has the right armor to combat them.
I am very torn.
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Vote for Bernie in the primary on Tuesday, & vote for Clinton in the general election. The Democratic Party has been rigged for Clinton, so Bernie will not be the nominee. Don't stay home!!
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Voting rights? Who has threatened your voting rights?
Not staying home, no way!
Vote blue no matter who!
Vote blue no matter who!
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If I were a democrat I would vote for Burny...ha ha for the simple reason that Clinton is beyond corrupt, criminal in behavior and dishonest beyond belief. If oboma is to be believed that he is not manipulating the FBI investigation of Clinton, then it is only a matter of time before the FBI completes their investigation and recommends an indictment for two reasons, violations of national security in her email handling and criminal fraud in the Clinton foundation. Burnie is clearly not the brightest bulb in the box but burns honestly in contrast with a much dimmer and dark Clinton.
If you really can't decide between the two, vote for Trump...
If you really can't decide between the two, vote for Trump...
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No thanks.
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Both have basically the same policies.
The choice is between a binary visionary and a nuanced realist.
It is easy to rile people up with rants of good and bad guys.
More difficult to play chess in thirteen dimensions, as demonstrated by Obama's Atlantic interview.
Easier to articulate the problems than to build a coalition to address them.
I am waiting for a visionary with a brilliant, subtle mind and the respect of his peers to arrive on the scene, but until then, I will go with Hillary.
The choice is between a binary visionary and a nuanced realist.
It is easy to rile people up with rants of good and bad guys.
More difficult to play chess in thirteen dimensions, as demonstrated by Obama's Atlantic interview.
Easier to articulate the problems than to build a coalition to address them.
I am waiting for a visionary with a brilliant, subtle mind and the respect of his peers to arrive on the scene, but until then, I will go with Hillary.
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More difficult to play chess in thirteen dimensions,
but th universe is an 11 dimensional space
whered those other two dimensions come from
but th universe is an 11 dimensional space
whered those other two dimensions come from
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But the two candidates really have nothing in common. Hillary votes for war -- every time. Bernie opposes regime change -- every time. Hillary votes for "free" trade (gutting the American economy) -- every time. Bernie opposes "free" trade -- every time. Hillary vote for fracking -- every time, all over the world. Bernie is against fracking -- all the time. Hillary is wants for-profit health care (and for-profit prisons). Bernie wants single payer nationalized system because health care is a right. Bernie wants money out of politics. Hillary would be unable to mount a campaign without her PAC.
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Sanders is doing just fine by repeating his points: almost 50000 people came out yeterday to hear him speak in NYC, so why should he go changing now?
HRC however has a bit of a popularity problem at hand and there is very little she can do based on her poor track record to fix that now, short of just taking on her opponent's talking points as her own, which will make her look even worse in the end.
HRC however has a bit of a popularity problem at hand and there is very little she can do based on her poor track record to fix that now, short of just taking on her opponent's talking points as her own, which will make her look even worse in the end.
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"HRC however has a bit of a popularity problem at hand..."
You mean, as in the approximately 2.5 million more votes she has received to date, over Sanders?
You mean, as in the approximately 2.5 million more votes she has received to date, over Sanders?
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I think he/she meant the 55% of voters with an unfavorable opinion of her.
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HRC has a bit of a popularity problem?? -- You might want to talk to all her Delegates about that.
I think Bernie better prepare for an outright ambush... Hillary has proven that she will do or say anything to win, no matter how under-handed or dishonest... And I expect to see a lot of that tonight... Whereas Bernie will stick to the truth... And, then have Hillary accuse him of lying or unfairness... Because the truth rarely reflects well on her...
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It's about time Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton stopped acting like the "lady" men want and starts responding strongly to these tired attacks. Go Get Em, Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton!
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Njglea, you seem particularly worked up about having a woman president. I'm a woman and I'd like to see a woman president too. However, I have great difficulty supporting Hillary, given that we know she sat by and let Bill and his cohorts smear and ruin the lives of all the women he harassed and assaulted. How are you able to get past that? This is a serious question. I just have great difficulty getting past that.
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@tom
Do you have any idea how downright sexist your comment comes across?-- talk about ambush. Nothing subtle here.
Do you have any idea how downright sexist your comment comes across?-- talk about ambush. Nothing subtle here.
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I see the Hillary Haters are out in droves today.
Well, I like and respect Bernie Sanders, but no matter WHO takes the nomination, it is important that ALL Democrats and Independents vote to stop the right wing march toward fascism.
That means holding your nose if necessary, and voting for Hillary if she is the nominee.
Why? Two words: Ralph Nader.
We can't allow the left to be divided. We need to KEEP the Presidency and TAKE BACK both Houses of Congress.
Well, I like and respect Bernie Sanders, but no matter WHO takes the nomination, it is important that ALL Democrats and Independents vote to stop the right wing march toward fascism.
That means holding your nose if necessary, and voting for Hillary if she is the nominee.
Why? Two words: Ralph Nader.
We can't allow the left to be divided. We need to KEEP the Presidency and TAKE BACK both Houses of Congress.
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I don't see how voting for Hillary Clinton is going to help anyone -- except the rich.
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I am an indie if I have to I will write in Sanders before I pull the lever for the lying cheat aka Hillary Clinton, sorry don't trust her as far as I can throw her. She can't tell the truth and she has been bought and paid for by corporate America as was Slick Willy. Remember Glass/Steagall? NAFTA? Yeah not voting for her.
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As I voted for Nader and don't have any regrets, I can reply to this comment
I am a Bernie Supporter, but definitely not a Hillary hater. In fact, Bernie Supporters are very courteous and respectful to Cruz supporters also
We can vote for establishment candidate (Clinton, Cruz) or else a real progressive (like Bernie Sanders, Zephyr Teachout, Elizabeth Warren or Jill Stein). It is upto the voter to decide.
I will vote for a progressive only. I have hopes that in the summer and fall Presidential debates the mainstream media can include a real progressive in debates. A progressive will be good for our country.
Change takes time, I will be patient, focussed and persistent
I am a Bernie Supporter, but definitely not a Hillary hater. In fact, Bernie Supporters are very courteous and respectful to Cruz supporters also
We can vote for establishment candidate (Clinton, Cruz) or else a real progressive (like Bernie Sanders, Zephyr Teachout, Elizabeth Warren or Jill Stein). It is upto the voter to decide.
I will vote for a progressive only. I have hopes that in the summer and fall Presidential debates the mainstream media can include a real progressive in debates. A progressive will be good for our country.
Change takes time, I will be patient, focussed and persistent
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If I've heard Bernie run the same lines once, I've heard them a dozen times by now. He is a stuck record. Stop talking like a sock puppet, Mr. Sanders, and get on with it already. I support you. I sent you money.
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He needs a good comic to condense his finer thoughts into quick quips, so I suggest he get Jon Stewart to help him throw down. Of course, Stewart is a closet RINO Ionesco style.
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The truth is the truth... And Bernie is sticking to it.
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Whereas Hillary is pure RINO!
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whatever happens, both Clinton and Sanders need to make sure that this debate does not resemble in any way, shape or form, the republican circus that passes for a debate. I want it to be civil, respectful and no response to any cheap baits.
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I started out a fan of Sanders' seemingly principled, if quixotic, positions while at the same time believing that Clinton was the both the better-prepared and more electable candidate.
In recent weeks, however, as Sanders and his followers have increasingly shown both shallowness and viciousness, it appears more and more that his is a burnt bridge, messianic candidacy, willing to sacrifice party unity and probably even the White House to make its point.
Shades of Ralph Nader! The stakes are too high to lose the Supreme Court, workers' rights, women's rights, climate change, and an array of other issues.
So if Sanders "Bros" should somehow manage to open the convention and wrest the nomination from Clinton, of course I'll support him against the dark forces of the reactionary Republicans, but only while tightly holding my own nose. And if elected, he'll need to convince me, policy by policy, that he has every citizen's best interests at heart.
In the meantime, I'm rooting for Clinton, the best qualified candidate in the race of either party, and a solid progressive to boot.
In recent weeks, however, as Sanders and his followers have increasingly shown both shallowness and viciousness, it appears more and more that his is a burnt bridge, messianic candidacy, willing to sacrifice party unity and probably even the White House to make its point.
Shades of Ralph Nader! The stakes are too high to lose the Supreme Court, workers' rights, women's rights, climate change, and an array of other issues.
So if Sanders "Bros" should somehow manage to open the convention and wrest the nomination from Clinton, of course I'll support him against the dark forces of the reactionary Republicans, but only while tightly holding my own nose. And if elected, he'll need to convince me, policy by policy, that he has every citizen's best interests at heart.
In the meantime, I'm rooting for Clinton, the best qualified candidate in the race of either party, and a solid progressive to boot.
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So many BernieBots have invaded this tread it no longer has any validity. How many are even eligible to vote next Tuesday? We shall see, little darlings of democratic socialism. My bet is not many. They're not eveb Democrats for the most part and don't have a clue to what that entails here in New York.
It's the reason we in the DNC inserted Supers into the process. Could you imagine the mess we'd be in if we listened to the tripe being shoveled our way? We'd be in the deep doodoo the Republicans are in. Soon their annoying behavior will be be subjugated by reality. Our convention in Philly will see to that. Happy Voting!
DD
Manhattan
It's the reason we in the DNC inserted Supers into the process. Could you imagine the mess we'd be in if we listened to the tripe being shoveled our way? We'd be in the deep doodoo the Republicans are in. Soon their annoying behavior will be be subjugated by reality. Our convention in Philly will see to that. Happy Voting!
DD
Manhattan
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Oh yeah. Let us not fight for what Europeans take for granted: single payer nationalized health care. Free college education. Let's keep voting for the Establishment, which means: war (was there ever a war Hillary did not support?); "free" trade( was there ever a "free" trade agreement Hillary did not support? fracking (why should anyone care about the environment -- if those fossil fuel companies contribute to Hillary's campaign?)
And of course we cannot possibly get big money out of politics!
And of course we cannot possibly get big money out of politics!
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Except when Bernie doesn't get the nomination, good luck getting those "little darlings" to support Hillary. And how exactly does Hillary hope to sway all those independents that fervently support Bernie? You think they are just going to "fall in line" as is often stated by die hard Hillary fans? There will be no "healing" the party after Hillary gets the nomination. How she and the DNC have run her campaign have turned many of us away, and we aren't coming back.
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We won't need the BernieBots in places like New York California and Florida. Trump or Cruz are not winning those states. And with the mutiny occurring in Cleveland the GOP will be in worse shape than the Dems. The whole idea of these elections by the two parties has always been to deplete participation of the electorate. BernieBots haven't quite figured that out. You see they still believe that voters voting matters. Never has, never will. It's why the country is as divided as it is. That's propaganda at work there, Son.
Don't think for a minute the people have much say in what's happening in and to their country.
Don't think for a minute the people have much say in what's happening in and to their country.
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U.S. corporations have been reported to have hidden $1.4 TRILLION in offshore accounts:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/14/us-corporations-14-trillion...
Hillary's solution of telling Wall Street to "Cut it out," yes, that was her response at one of the debates, is not the solution.
Hillary is not the solution.
Bernie 2016
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/14/us-corporations-14-trillion...
Hillary's solution of telling Wall Street to "Cut it out," yes, that was her response at one of the debates, is not the solution.
Hillary is not the solution.
Bernie 2016
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That money was already taxed in the country it was earned in
And if you think companies are parking money in banks and not using it to reinvest - you are missing lots of education in finance
And if you think companies are parking money in banks and not using it to reinvest - you are missing lots of education in finance
Well from what I read, a bunch of that is in Mr. Sanders' home state of Vermont, which uses this financial "vehicle" to make a lot of cash by offering a tax haven. It was covered this week on a story on "captive insurance" accounts. It seems incongruous with what Sanders is saying about Wall St. to me. Sounds like Bernie is not even saying "Cut it out".
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I'd like to read the New York Times on-line front page without a huge Bernie Sanders (nor Hillary Clinton) ad taking over the top of the page.
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Just wait a few more months...
After Bernie getting the invisible treatment from the media, its refreshing to see him appear.
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No matter who ends up as the Democratic nominee, both Clinton and Sanders need to start infusing their messages with the critical urgency of getting every Democrat to the polls in November. Not as much on the Clinton side, but it seems that several Sanders supporters have said that if Clinton is the nominee, they might sit out the general election. Honestly, what good would that do? That silent gesture would only benefit Republicans, so please don’t — if Clinton is the nominee, support her and make sure she hears your passionate messages!
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So, we should vote for Hillary because she's not Republican? That's not enough reason for me.
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I guess you haven't been paying attention to the Republicans then if you'd rather be stuck with Trump or Cruz.
Clinton inspires as much confidence and trust as a wet dishtowel. Bernie will seek out those with expertise that he does not have. Hillary will continue to support the banks and big business even though jobs are being lost. Hillary carries a big bag of garbage from her husbands presidency and her own missteps and lack of addressing them. If the media did more coverage of Clinton and Sanders we would see different results in the polls. The media, this paper included, is part of the problem.
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This is the presidency... the most powerful seat in the world... thus, The People need some real answers, and more than just, "how exactly does one break up a big bank." As if we didn't successfully live through the Ma Bell break up.
I would like to see HRC release her WS transcripts BEFORE the NYS primary. If she doesn't, I would like the moderators to strongly press the issue as to why-----(this is the presidency--we have a right to know).
I would like to hear HRC, a lawyer and "experienced" politician, explain why she undermined FOIA, kept a private server, and communicated highly sensitive information outside the protection of federal agency (DOS). If she skirts the question by saying, "oh for god's sake... everyone did it...," then I'd like the moderators to pressure her for a concrete answer-------(this is the presidency--we have a right to know).
I would like to see HRC release her WS transcripts BEFORE the NYS primary. If she doesn't, I would like the moderators to strongly press the issue as to why-----(this is the presidency--we have a right to know).
I would like to hear HRC, a lawyer and "experienced" politician, explain why she undermined FOIA, kept a private server, and communicated highly sensitive information outside the protection of federal agency (DOS). If she skirts the question by saying, "oh for god's sake... everyone did it...," then I'd like the moderators to pressure her for a concrete answer-------(this is the presidency--we have a right to know).
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I would like to see Bernie release his complete tax returns. Now. Before the NYS primary.
This is the presidency. We have a right to know.
This is the presidency. We have a right to know.
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South Florida and New Orleans will be underwater by 2050 and there is nothing we can do to stop it. It will be a national catastrophe creating millions of refugees. All we can do now is limit further damage through the strictest possible climate change legislation. All other issues pale in comparison.
We need a leader who can bring about this rapid damage control. Clinton acknowledges climate change, which is a start, but has and continues to support fracking, once supported Keystone XL, and has money ties to energy companies. She is compromised while her rival is not.
The choice of candidate should be clear to anyone who still wants an earth for their children and grandchildren to live on.
We need a leader who can bring about this rapid damage control. Clinton acknowledges climate change, which is a start, but has and continues to support fracking, once supported Keystone XL, and has money ties to energy companies. She is compromised while her rival is not.
The choice of candidate should be clear to anyone who still wants an earth for their children and grandchildren to live on.
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I am bothered by the criticism of Bernie for attacking Hillary as if it were all one-sided. I do not agree with Bernie in some of his attacks on Hillary, but I see little concern with her attacks on him. She questions his commitment to the environment because he wanted the agreement to be stronger. Most environmentalists agree with Bernie that the agreement is too weak, and her attacks are disingenuous. The bit about measuring illegal guns on a per capita basis is groan worthy. Most upsetting is her assertion that he placed the interests of gun manufacturers above the lives of children. That is unfair and hurtful. Sen Sanders has a position on gun control that may be different from many gun control advocates, but questioning his commitment to children is hitting below the belt.
Again, I would prefer that the candidates stay focused on the issues and not attack each other, but please acknowledge that the attacks go both ways.
Again, I would prefer that the candidates stay focused on the issues and not attack each other, but please acknowledge that the attacks go both ways.
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Listening to Bernie's stump speech often on television, I can do parts of it in my sleep; Iraq war vote, judgment, inequality, millions and billions, fair for workers, free school, single payer healthcare, break up banks. The only sure thing is you don't want to stand too close to his right side. You'd risk injury from that finger he punctuates his sentences with.
Clinton varies her speech quite a bit. The usual thing to make a big point, is to raise her voice to an uncomfortable level. Not being a born politician, she is forced to present herself somewhat outside her comfort zone. In a debate she does much better. Her encyclopedic knowledge delivered in a regular voice with a bit of humor mixed in is her strongest presentation.
Hillary will attack Bernie's competence for the job without ever saying that word, he has no clue how to deal with the banks. Bernie will attack her judgment, Iraq War, taking super-pac money, accepting big speaking fees from wall street. It will be heated, but not Republican crazy; name calling, yelling, boasting, more name calling, insults, making allusions to body parts.
Just writing that paragraph makes clear either Democrat would be a far superior choice than than the Clown Car. Particularly now they are fighting over driving, and have a decent chance to end up in a ditch.
Clinton varies her speech quite a bit. The usual thing to make a big point, is to raise her voice to an uncomfortable level. Not being a born politician, she is forced to present herself somewhat outside her comfort zone. In a debate she does much better. Her encyclopedic knowledge delivered in a regular voice with a bit of humor mixed in is her strongest presentation.
Hillary will attack Bernie's competence for the job without ever saying that word, he has no clue how to deal with the banks. Bernie will attack her judgment, Iraq War, taking super-pac money, accepting big speaking fees from wall street. It will be heated, but not Republican crazy; name calling, yelling, boasting, more name calling, insults, making allusions to body parts.
Just writing that paragraph makes clear either Democrat would be a far superior choice than than the Clown Car. Particularly now they are fighting over driving, and have a decent chance to end up in a ditch.
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I think what Sanders is doing has often in the past been referred to as "staying on message." That said, Sanders is as far from a single-issue candidate as Clinton is. Which is to say, not at all. The proof of which will surely be on display this evening, from Brooklyn.
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We also need to see Mr. Sanders' FULL tax returns. Not just the first two pages of a single return, 1994, that he and his wife have been trying to pass off as release of their returns. We need to see FULL returns, for each of at least the last 10 years. This would include information regarding his capital gains and losses and charitable contributions, as well as his spouse's if she files separately. Sanders has not just been the least forthcoming of all candidates on this matter, it now appears he and his wife are stonewalling about it. Given the steady attention to this matter across various media, with no releases from the Sanders, it is looking like they have something to hide.
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I'd also like to see Hill's speeches she made to ALL of those corporations over the years but I'll settle for 2015......I won't hold my breath.
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Yeah, I'd like to read the speeches too. But no other presidential candidate has ever been required to release such transcripts. I don't like that she's held to a different standard.
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No other Presidential candidate has profited as much as Clinton either.
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If you are at all intelligent you will vote for Bernie Sanders. Let's get real, people.
The Daily News Editorial Board is an oxymoron. Folks, editorial boards have agendas! The Times, the WSJ, the DN. This should not be news.
The Daily News Editorial Board is an oxymoron. Folks, editorial boards have agendas! The Times, the WSJ, the DN. This should not be news.
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Wow, that is the most unpersuasive argument to vote for someone that I've ever read. Great...start off with an insult.
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@kelly
What do you expect? --insulting is all they know, and what they do best.
Only 'intelligent' people know that's no way to sell a candidate.
What do you expect? --insulting is all they know, and what they do best.
Only 'intelligent' people know that's no way to sell a candidate.
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Can't tell you how many times Sanders age has come up on this thread and the comments about Grandpa Sanders. So N. Smith get a grip there OK?
What is the over/under on how many times Sen. Sanders says, essentially "and by the way, I voted against the Iraq war and my opponent voted for it."
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Very rarely, I plug this newspaper. But this is for national security issue which begs explanation. Before anyone votes for Clinton, I would suggest they read the disturbing article below from last April:
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire APRIL 23, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-a...
In light of Russia's recent buzzing of a 5th Fleet destroyer, and in general because of Russia's more aggressive posture in the Baltic and elsewhere for no apparent good reason, I have grave reservations about Ms. Clinton's understanding of military concerns, aside from her general untrustworthy behavior as Secretary of State.
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
By Jo Becker and Mike McIntire APRIL 23, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-a...
In light of Russia's recent buzzing of a 5th Fleet destroyer, and in general because of Russia's more aggressive posture in the Baltic and elsewhere for no apparent good reason, I have grave reservations about Ms. Clinton's understanding of military concerns, aside from her general untrustworthy behavior as Secretary of State.
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She will do anything for money. Bernie is right. The real problem is her poor judgment as she has shown repeatedly, weekly even. Popping off at the woman from Greenpeace, foolishly looking to show she was the "real" New Yorker with the metrocard she couldn't swipe, and the racist skit she blamed on DeBlaiso are just very recent examples.
Which was worse, not having the grit to tell DeBlaiso the skit was not in good taste (gee, she must really need male approval to miss that one) or refusing to accept responsibility for having participated in it?
Which was worse, not having the grit to tell DeBlaiso the skit was not in good taste (gee, she must really need male approval to miss that one) or refusing to accept responsibility for having participated in it?
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Agreed. The finger pointing on the skit she willingly participated in is all you need to know about Hillary.
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Stupendously timely link. As they told me in Journalism school: "Just follow the money."
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It's nice to be idealistic as Sanders and his supporters are, but if you're running for President you also have to be realistic.
1) In knowing how you would accomplish your main goals, which Bernie clearly didn't in that disastrous Daily News editorial board meeting. And...
2) In recognizing that you will be facing a dysfunctional Congress with an opposition party that operates in full-blown obstructionist mode. A fairly centrist Democrat, President Obama, has had to fight tooth and nail to get his relatively modest plans implemented, but somehow that Congress is going to roll over to get its tummy scratched by the Socialist from Vermont?
1) In knowing how you would accomplish your main goals, which Bernie clearly didn't in that disastrous Daily News editorial board meeting. And...
2) In recognizing that you will be facing a dysfunctional Congress with an opposition party that operates in full-blown obstructionist mode. A fairly centrist Democrat, President Obama, has had to fight tooth and nail to get his relatively modest plans implemented, but somehow that Congress is going to roll over to get its tummy scratched by the Socialist from Vermont?
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What is the evidence for the Republicans being willing to work with Hillary? I am anxious to hear how members of the House committees that are investigating her have changed their minds.
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Excuse me, where did I ever say Republicans would be willing to work with Hillary? My point was Republicans don't cooperate with any Democratic president these days, yet Bernie and his supporters seem to believe he will be able to make magic happen by....well, they don't really explain how they think he will somehow get single payer and free college tuition and breaking up the banks through this DC crowd. If you can explain how, please proceed.
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Bernie is clearly the visionary in this race, as well as being the most honest and admirable of all the candidates. Hillary could never have whipped up the same excitement last night in Washington Square Park, nor could she have spoken in solidarity with striking Verizon workers, calling them "brothers and sisters," as Bernie did. We know what Bernie stands for, and it is the idea that anything is still possible in America, even universal government healthcare and free public college tuition. We know that Hillary stands for much of the status quo. She's positioned herself as the great compromiser, someone who can allegedly accomplish something with the recalcitrant Republicans. (Sounds a little like Obama and we know where that got us.) You'd like your kids to grow up with Bernie's values. Hillary? Maybe not as much.
With all of that said, Bernie's candidacy would bring us too close to the edge of a possible Trump or Cruz presidency, something the country cannot afford. I love Bernie, but will cast my vote for Hillary. She may not be the first choice of many, but she's the best choice against the vile Republican contenders. And she does know a heckuva lot more about foreign policy than all of the other candidates combined (not that that's saying much).
With all of that said, Bernie's candidacy would bring us too close to the edge of a possible Trump or Cruz presidency, something the country cannot afford. I love Bernie, but will cast my vote for Hillary. She may not be the first choice of many, but she's the best choice against the vile Republican contenders. And she does know a heckuva lot more about foreign policy than all of the other candidates combined (not that that's saying much).
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Do you know that over half of voters nationally don't trust her and that for months poll after poll find Bernie beats the Republicans by wider margins, sometimes double digits?
Here is what you may not realize as the NYT says little about it. Bernie brings in Independents and moderate Republicans who can't stand their field of candidates. She doesn't, and they will not vote for her. No candidate can win the general election without the Independent voters. An army of blacks, elderly, and women-of-a-certain-age will not be enough to carry the day in November.
Here is what you may not realize as the NYT says little about it. Bernie brings in Independents and moderate Republicans who can't stand their field of candidates. She doesn't, and they will not vote for her. No candidate can win the general election without the Independent voters. An army of blacks, elderly, and women-of-a-certain-age will not be enough to carry the day in November.
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Nora01, I learned long ago that most Americans don't trust any politicians. As much as I love Bernie, he's being disingenuous when he promises single-payer healthcare and free public colleges in our current political system, where we can't even get the routine stuff done.
As for the polls on Bernie's prospects, I remember how all the pollsters predicted a Romney win in 2012 and we know how that turned out. To ensure that I won't wake up to President-elect Trump or Cruz on November 9, I must give my vote to Hillary. I only wish Bernie was 20 years younger so we could see his time come. Unfortunately, that time is not now.
As for the polls on Bernie's prospects, I remember how all the pollsters predicted a Romney win in 2012 and we know how that turned out. To ensure that I won't wake up to President-elect Trump or Cruz on November 9, I must give my vote to Hillary. I only wish Bernie was 20 years younger so we could see his time come. Unfortunately, that time is not now.
Clinton needs to be calm calm calm, grateful grateful grateful, optimistic optimistic optimistic. A tall order for someone inclined to lash out when she is not lying.
Sanders has no chance and should get out of the race, so we don't have another Nader nipping at Gore.
Sanders has no chance and should get out of the race, so we don't have another Nader nipping at Gore.
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This is in the bag, so you pick which one you want to carry through the next four seasons.
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Nader ran in the general as an Independent. Bernie is running in the Democratic primary. There's no comparison. A better analogy would be that Sanders is like Clinton when she ran against Obama in '08. How long did she stay in the race? Remember the PUMAs?
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Bernie is gaining in popularity for three reasons.
1- Many people have forgotten that Hillary was Senator in New York however remember she had just moved to New York when she announced she was running for the position. Her success was based on Bill's contacts. Very similar in comparison to Mao's wife syndrome.
2- If Hillary is the candidate and a real investigation is announced by the FBI and US Attorneys office that proves negative results for her and past colleagues will she have to pull out, providing a hug he opportunity for Donald Trump. has she found a colleague to take the pressure off of her shoulders. But at this time why is it taking so long?
3- Her tax plan to meet the future obligations of the US and to help the middle class with their unfair burden needs to e addressed. She should announce a major change with a Progressive flat tax plan.
Outside of her support for a women's right to abortion, no really knows her top three policies. She is very vague. Unless she changes her strategy, Bernie will past her in popularity in another week. He is only down by about 5% to 10%. But he is climbing fast. She must keep Bill quiet for he is a major negative right now.
1- Many people have forgotten that Hillary was Senator in New York however remember she had just moved to New York when she announced she was running for the position. Her success was based on Bill's contacts. Very similar in comparison to Mao's wife syndrome.
2- If Hillary is the candidate and a real investigation is announced by the FBI and US Attorneys office that proves negative results for her and past colleagues will she have to pull out, providing a hug he opportunity for Donald Trump. has she found a colleague to take the pressure off of her shoulders. But at this time why is it taking so long?
3- Her tax plan to meet the future obligations of the US and to help the middle class with their unfair burden needs to e addressed. She should announce a major change with a Progressive flat tax plan.
Outside of her support for a women's right to abortion, no really knows her top three policies. She is very vague. Unless she changes her strategy, Bernie will past her in popularity in another week. He is only down by about 5% to 10%. But he is climbing fast. She must keep Bill quiet for he is a major negative right now.
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Am I correct in understanding Bill Clinton was soliciting contributions to the Clinton foundation from foreign governments while HRC was SOS? If this is correct, isn't this the ethics of third world dictators? What am I missing?
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Expect that to contiunue to happen if HRC is elected POTUS. If it isn't directly and explicitly prohibited by law, the Clintons will do it, morality and appearance be damned. That's just how they roll.
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If you look too closely at any leader's family practices, you'll see we are overlooking the same shaming that brought down a PM in Britain's House of Cards ala late night TV BBC. Even though those cards were set up, this reality show presently still stands up like that Major Mister Mustard, FU. Cameron, I stand to salute you!
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You are 100% correct and where was the lamestream media?????
The sound of very loud crickets can be heard. Don't rock the boat, it's CLinton's time. And never look for any word from this once credible publication.
The sound of very loud crickets can be heard. Don't rock the boat, it's CLinton's time. And never look for any word from this once credible publication.
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I agree that Senator Sanders, whom I support strongly, can be formulaic in debate. He needs to get beyond his talking points more frequently.
That said, it is a canard that Senator Sanders bollixed the Daily News interview. He performed strongly and provided substantive responses. I encourage voters to read the transcript.
With respect to the "break up the banks" question posed by the Daily News: many prominent economists have noted that the Dodd-Frank process is murky. Sanders was therefore correct to assert that he would use Dodd-Frank powers, if sufficient, to break up the banks and to seek new legislation empowering such breakups if Dodd-Frank is too weak.
That said, it is a canard that Senator Sanders bollixed the Daily News interview. He performed strongly and provided substantive responses. I encourage voters to read the transcript.
With respect to the "break up the banks" question posed by the Daily News: many prominent economists have noted that the Dodd-Frank process is murky. Sanders was therefore correct to assert that he would use Dodd-Frank powers, if sufficient, to break up the banks and to seek new legislation empowering such breakups if Dodd-Frank is too weak.
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"To put down Mr. Sanders’s insurgency, Mrs. Clinton might have to break out of that pattern and deliver a message that genuinely excites the Democratic base in a state that twice elected her to the Senate. The debate could be her best opportunity, before the end of primary voting in June, to convey a vision of the presidency more enthralling than the pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change."
In other words, shift once again and attempt to appear to "become" Bernie for the night. Incremental change and her pragmatism are what she and her supporters claim sets her apart and what they rely upon to illustrate her capability.
She supports the moneyed interests that have so generously given money to her in one form or another, in one fund or another. She does not support the people and she can't pretend for the night that she does and make her neoliberal history go away.
In other words, shift once again and attempt to appear to "become" Bernie for the night. Incremental change and her pragmatism are what she and her supporters claim sets her apart and what they rely upon to illustrate her capability.
She supports the moneyed interests that have so generously given money to her in one form or another, in one fund or another. She does not support the people and she can't pretend for the night that she does and make her neoliberal history go away.
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Maybe stuff like reproductive health is not razzle-dazzle to the Bernie folks but I would consider that of interest and evidence of "support for the people". Clinton has the endorsement of Planned Parenthood.
The scenario of women NOT having to keeping fighting nut jobs at clinics, religious fundamentalist legislators, or having killers show up like Robert Dear here in Colorado would be a "vision" too. Just because that does not make the radar of interesting topics for Sanders folks does not mean that half the population getting to quit asking permission for living autonomous lives is not as important as barking about Wall St.
The scenario of women NOT having to keeping fighting nut jobs at clinics, religious fundamentalist legislators, or having killers show up like Robert Dear here in Colorado would be a "vision" too. Just because that does not make the radar of interesting topics for Sanders folks does not mean that half the population getting to quit asking permission for living autonomous lives is not as important as barking about Wall St.
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@Kay Johnson
Of course reproductive health is "of interest" to those that support Bernie. It is of utmost importance to Bernie, why do you think he supports a single-payer health-care system? Women's health, everyone's health (including mental health - to proactively deal with the "nut jobs") is important.
Women's health is important to Bernie as is equal pay for women, voter's rights, an education system that works for everyone, civil rights, income equality, and fighting climate change to ensure there is a habitable world for future generations to live healthy lives. Bernie is far from a one-topic candidate and his supporters know that.
Of course reproductive health is "of interest" to those that support Bernie. It is of utmost importance to Bernie, why do you think he supports a single-payer health-care system? Women's health, everyone's health (including mental health - to proactively deal with the "nut jobs") is important.
Women's health is important to Bernie as is equal pay for women, voter's rights, an education system that works for everyone, civil rights, income equality, and fighting climate change to ensure there is a habitable world for future generations to live healthy lives. Bernie is far from a one-topic candidate and his supporters know that.
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Maybe it hasn't been a hot issue because both candidates have essentially the same position on it.
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As long as Sanders has "a paper" in front of him, he should be fine. Otherwise, get ready to hear yet another replay of his Stump Speech Greatest Hits.
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The last time I made this comment you refused to publish it, but let me try once again: compare the NYT Picks to Readers' Picks -- your bias is absolutely appalling. The NY Times has lost every ounce of credibility, and as a former devotee, I am crushed.
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You have been bamboozled and blinded by Bernie love. The NYT has been fair and balanced (not like Fox News) in its coverage.
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Just try to get a comment printed that goes negative against the golden child, I've posted several or tried and 1 gets posted. Typical.
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Or maybe the NYT sees a lack of critical thinking in the Sanders camp. Somehow I trust the paper more than cultish followers.
FYI - Wikipedia has an "Electoral History of Bernie Sanders" which you might find interesting. It shows that Sanders lost many elections, since 1972. (He ran for office in Vermont something like 21 times, in 44 years)
You might see him as a loser, or you might see him as an experienced political fighter, who never gives up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_hi…
Again, I feel that Sanders should team up with Hillary. Both candidates have major flaws and strenths. But by coming together, they may be able to strengthen one another, for a "more perfect union."
You might see him as a loser, or you might see him as an experienced political fighter, who never gives up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_hi…
Again, I feel that Sanders should team up with Hillary. Both candidates have major flaws and strenths. But by coming together, they may be able to strengthen one another, for a "more perfect union."
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While I support and believe in Bernie, I am frightened by the dynamics of a general election with either Trumpy or the evil Cruz. Hillary is significantly more electable with her ability to break the Southern strategy. Bernie would struggle. Bottom line, I am in no way prepared for a Republican dominated Washington, Hillary's fees not withstanding.
Definitely a tough Democratic problem but nowhere near the fiasco of the Republican cartel.
Definitely a tough Democratic problem but nowhere near the fiasco of the Republican cartel.
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So, you think the south is going to vote Democratic? Really? Nothing they have done or are doing gives me that impression. I thought voter suppression was to insure a Republican outcome. Who knew it was really a guise to return the south to the Democrats?
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Hillary is NOT more electable. Among many points of information that the NYT and other media are withholding is the FACT that Bernie outpolls ALL potential Republicans by a healthy margin. Hillary LOSES to Kasich, Cruz and RUBIO as of the last polling round.
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Sorry but I don't share your sentiment.
The bias of this article against Samders is painfully obvious. Shame in the New York Times, your coverage of this entire cOaign has been disgraceful.
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And what else is painfully obvious? That the bias is alive and well with the NYT moderators who do not recognize the suspicious HRC supporters in this very skewed thread. Twenty=seven thousand New Yorkers showed up last night in Washington Square and many waited hours to get into the park. How about some respect for them, instead of diminishing your own?
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And both of these comments smack either of conspiracy theory or sour grapes.
Stop blaming the New York Times, and the people who comment here if they don't happen to agree with you on everything. Grow up.
Stop blaming the New York Times, and the people who comment here if they don't happen to agree with you on everything. Grow up.
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How about having Sanders clear up the issue from the televised news several days ago about Vermont and South Dakota as a huge tax cheat havens? I googled it and found it was a story covered in the Christian Science Monitor years ago as well. How does this happen for years in a very small state with a guy like Sanders who is spending a lot of time barking at Clinton for money issues and there are giant amounts of money harbored there? he didnt know? He should address that and his NRA stance and Clinton should address Wall St. stuff.
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The biggesy states for tax cheats are Delaware and Nevada from all I have seen
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Cheating is the standard operating procedure since Clinton made betting in insurance houses legal again. He and Greenspan set our world on fire betting they'd be out of office before they had to pay for it.
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Florida's unlimited homestead protection is why many suffer the humidity to avoid the risk. I happily risk betting on AZ. Come the Freeze after the Thaw, I'm gonna be crowing at you all.
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After all (how many?) the Democratic debates, I'm still waiting to hear from Sanders how his plans are going to be enacted without a 60+ super-majority in the Senate and a clear majority in the House. In the absence of that legislative branch support and bipartisan appeal, we once again will have gridlock on Day 1, including for the Scalia replacement SCOTUS nomination. The adjectives "practical" and "incremental" have unfortunately become pejoratives.
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Isn't it lovely that there will be no opposition for Hillary from the GOP. See, she's so marvelous that even they will fall in line willingly. I can't wait to see her perform the miracle!
And here I thought she was hated by them! Silly me, they don't hit her with brickbats after all. Those are love pats.
If so, why does she whine about having the "scars" to prove she can take their hits? Just asking....
And here I thought she was hated by them! Silly me, they don't hit her with brickbats after all. Those are love pats.
If so, why does she whine about having the "scars" to prove she can take their hits? Just asking....
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The GOP resents Hillary far more: Bernie has been a member of the Senate/House for years and knows them all very well.
It sounds counterintuitive, but Bernie can get way, way more done.
It sounds counterintuitive, but Bernie can get way, way more done.
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Same could be said for Clinton through right?
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Why don't news articles about television events ever include the air time? Doesn't seem that hard to type out a few more characters in the nut graf.
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God, I'm so sick of the endlessly yelling, nasty Bernie Sanders. I hope Hillary puts him away tonight & gets him off my TV screen.
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Gee I'm kind of tired of the phony pandering whatever way the wind blows Hillary Clinton. I sure hope Bernie puts her away tonight and gets her off my TV screen.
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I am equally awaiting the end of the Clintons. I can't wait for them to disappear into moneyland.
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@nora
Seriously. Is that the only retort that you can come up with?
I thought Sanders' "revolution" was supposed to be so social, but it always seems to revolve around money.
Seriously. Is that the only retort that you can come up with?
I thought Sanders' "revolution" was supposed to be so social, but it always seems to revolve around money.
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Wolf Blitzer or Bernie Sanders must ask Ms. Clinton, pointe blank: "As a lawyer, you understand a judge receiving $675,000 (more than the average person earns in an entire career) from a party to a case would need to RECUSE him/herself because of that financial connection. Before addressing why your receiving $675000 from Goldman Sachs and millions from other Wall Street firms doesn't discredit or impair your ability to challenge, prosecute and reform, briefly explain the principle of recusal (both as to actual influence, potential influence, or the mere appearance) and then why it doesn't apply to your credibility here.
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Incredibly well said - thank you
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By this standard, all politicians, including Sen. Sanders, would have to recuse themselves from every decision.
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Rita: maybe it should, maybe it should, maybe it should.
But should our imperfect adherence to the principle cause abandonment of the principle altogether, as you imply?
No other formulation of the challenge on Hillary's credibility can work here. She must be compelled to acknowledge this principle of recusal, that presumes no official is above influence when significant funds change hands, and how she can so confidently claim to be above influence.
But should our imperfect adherence to the principle cause abandonment of the principle altogether, as you imply?
No other formulation of the challenge on Hillary's credibility can work here. She must be compelled to acknowledge this principle of recusal, that presumes no official is above influence when significant funds change hands, and how she can so confidently claim to be above influence.
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Bernie the "protest candidate" -- exactly. And the media are giving him a pass because he's entertaining. Hillary, on the other hand, is full of substance and possesses extraordinarily great qualifications for the presidency.
This article seems to discount Hillary's substance and push her to become more entertaining. I guess that's what the TV networks want, and who can blame them since the questions asked in these debates are not about substantive issues.
This article seems to discount Hillary's substance and push her to become more entertaining. I guess that's what the TV networks want, and who can blame them since the questions asked in these debates are not about substantive issues.
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The composition of that substance you assert she's full of is in vigorous dispute.
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Am commenting here because once again, in the other piece about Sanders and his rally (not given prominent attention), there is no comment section. This is also the case the day after Sanders wins any primaries or caucuses. Meanwhile, when Hillary wins anything it is splashed all over the masthead and a comments section is always available.
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Well, what can we expect from the unexpected? This paper's publisher told the Tea Pot Domers Denver's news of their grift on no bid leases would never cross the Hudson. But when the WaPo's publisher got caught fabricating an affidavit to hide the windfall the Interior Secretary enjoyed from the spillage, well, this is a business, friends...Same thing while FDR was whipping up the betters. Old crust cracks hard.
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They can't they won't. They just get inundated with Bernie supporter comments, we were ignored for months. Yesterday when I was watching the Washington Sq rally on youtube, there were 2 streams, at least and each had 18,000 viewers. Not to mention the 27,000 who were present at Washington square.
For people who missed it, there were tens of thousands at: Binghamton, Albany, Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Poughkeepsie.....
For people who missed it, there were tens of thousands at: Binghamton, Albany, Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Poughkeepsie.....
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There are too many reference to "...do you want the status quo.." by enthusiastic Bernie supporters who want his revolution. I love his message because it is a good wakeup call to the democrats and just feels really good. Ok, got that out of the way. This "status quo" being referred to represents Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Barney Frank, and others instead of Romney and whomever he would've brought in.
This "status quo" also means Obama's or Elizabeth Warren's or Barney Franks's heroic efforts to push through whatever congress would allow, and what a congress they faced. Sure they all wanted more teeth in their results, don't we all. As much as I love Bernie's one line calls to rally against "the big banks" I am picturing him shouting his message in front of congress instead of enthusiastic supporters. Instead of cheers from congress we will hear thunderous laughter waiting for the next joke.
Good luck with the "revolution" and oh, I am old enough to recall the many calls to revolutions in the past and was very happy to see that word vanish. Now I am saddened to see this word "revolution" rearing it's ugly head. "You say you want a revolution, oh yeah..." John Lennon's song has become my new ear worm.
This "status quo" also means Obama's or Elizabeth Warren's or Barney Franks's heroic efforts to push through whatever congress would allow, and what a congress they faced. Sure they all wanted more teeth in their results, don't we all. As much as I love Bernie's one line calls to rally against "the big banks" I am picturing him shouting his message in front of congress instead of enthusiastic supporters. Instead of cheers from congress we will hear thunderous laughter waiting for the next joke.
Good luck with the "revolution" and oh, I am old enough to recall the many calls to revolutions in the past and was very happy to see that word vanish. Now I am saddened to see this word "revolution" rearing it's ugly head. "You say you want a revolution, oh yeah..." John Lennon's song has become my new ear worm.
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The attempt to paint Senator Sanders as naive in the ways of Congress is belied by his many years of successfully passing legislation through the adroit use of the amendment process.
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And now we live in a Paul McCartney world. Fluff abounds. I miss John.
Joe,
Might be better than the 4yr. impeachment trial we will get.
Can you imagine another game of What is the Meaning of "is". The lies and deceit that will be played out whist Rome burns and our coffers are robbed.
Remember to sign you children up for the next foreign adventures too.
Yes, better to accept the Status Quo than strive for betterment. Everything is going great. Got it.
Just lay down. They will make everything ok. Just keep your head down and don't dream of a better Americant.
Might be better than the 4yr. impeachment trial we will get.
Can you imagine another game of What is the Meaning of "is". The lies and deceit that will be played out whist Rome burns and our coffers are robbed.
Remember to sign you children up for the next foreign adventures too.
Yes, better to accept the Status Quo than strive for betterment. Everything is going great. Got it.
Just lay down. They will make everything ok. Just keep your head down and don't dream of a better Americant.
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Sanders has become a stronger candidate. Any mistakes his campaign or followers have made are soon corrected. Hillary has become a weaker candidate, as she reveals who she actually is: saying Reagan was constructive on AIDS, citing Kissinger as an adviser, taking part in that inexplicable racial joke. She does indeed have poor judgment and, in spite of copying Sanders' positions, reveals that she really is allied with Wall Street, Kissinger and all they brought us: war and economic injustice. Make no mistake: she is a neo conservative. She should just be honest about it. If she were ever elected she would retreat very fast from any Sanders' style positions she may have adopted during the election.
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Yes, time for Mr. Sanders to answer some REAL questions about what HE didn't do during his 30+ years in Congress. For instance, why didn't he PREVENT the banks from getting so BIG? Why didn't HE fight to reinstate anti-trust laws that allowed them to gobble up their competition? Why didn't HE stop the demise of Glass-Stegall? Why didn't Mr. Sanders FIGHT to get the Equal Rights Amendment to OUR Constitution passed to PREVENT the hostile laws being passed to try to suppress a Woman's Right to Choose what she does with her own body? Why didn't Mr. Sanders STOP the catholic church takeover of a major portion of OUR health care system and why isn't he leading the charge to get their tax-free status taken away for trying to force their beliefs on OUR health care system? Why hasn't HE and isn't he taking on BIG pharma and their predatory pricing? The answers are simple. Because the system has worked well for HIM his entire life without him having to do anything but yell and vote no. HE has been exposed for the sham he is and all HE has going for him is that he is not a woman. Grandpa Sanders does not get my vote.
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You do realize that Bernie and Biden are about the only people who have served in Congress without becoming millionaires, right? That means they didn't play the K Street game to line their pockets. Can you say that about the Clintons?
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njglea, with regards to another of your comments in reference to shell companies, I would be equally interested if the panama papers, yay whistle-blowers, examine tight connections between the Clintons, their non-profit, and John Podesta, Saudi Arabia, off shore accounts on a more global scale.
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How do you know he didn't fight? Because he didn't win? Like Iraq.
So it's GRANDMA Hillary for you.
So it's GRANDMA Hillary for you.
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Good article.
For the sake of New York - that is, all of it, not just that amazing city, and not to mention the rest of the country - I hope that both Clinton and Sanders give their best, and do so with the best humor that they can use. It will serve them well.
A forceful debate will give credit to the Democrats and a small measure of sanity to the presidential election. There still is plenty more for the gutter, but two issues beg for real debate. I hope Sanders presses Clinton to explain her relatively recent role as Secretary of State in handing over control of much of our uranium production to Russia and Putin, and I hope Clinton in fact presses Sanders to do more to explain his socialist leanings, and what that means in reality, not just in repetitive sound bites. Those two issues alone are essential for Americans to understand.
Even as a lifelong socialist myself, I have always loved my country and I cannot abide the way Clinton has given away American control of our uranium mines to Putin and Russia in exchange for contributions to her husband's foundation, and I agree with many capitalists' criticisms of Sanders that he needs to explain more of the reality he envisions under his brand of democratic socialism.
For the sake of New York - that is, all of it, not just that amazing city, and not to mention the rest of the country - I hope that both Clinton and Sanders give their best, and do so with the best humor that they can use. It will serve them well.
A forceful debate will give credit to the Democrats and a small measure of sanity to the presidential election. There still is plenty more for the gutter, but two issues beg for real debate. I hope Sanders presses Clinton to explain her relatively recent role as Secretary of State in handing over control of much of our uranium production to Russia and Putin, and I hope Clinton in fact presses Sanders to do more to explain his socialist leanings, and what that means in reality, not just in repetitive sound bites. Those two issues alone are essential for Americans to understand.
Even as a lifelong socialist myself, I have always loved my country and I cannot abide the way Clinton has given away American control of our uranium mines to Putin and Russia in exchange for contributions to her husband's foundation, and I agree with many capitalists' criticisms of Sanders that he needs to explain more of the reality he envisions under his brand of democratic socialism.
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Sanders has addressed his use of the term democratic socialist on several occasions, and I am confident he would do so again. In fact I suspect it can be found on YouTube if you care to look.
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Let me understand this, HRC visits the striking Verizon workers and a few years before collects a speaking fee from Verizon. I thought Ne Yorkers could see through such duplicitous behavior. I guess I was wrong.
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At least the NY Times should have picked up on that but well they didn't she is their Golden Child who can do no wrong. All the biased news that's fit to print.
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Bernie picketed with them, as he has many times before in the course of his career.
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Oddly. That sounds a bit like Sanders suddenly visiting the National Action Network in order to "pamper" out the Black vote.
Funny. Isn't it??
Funny. Isn't it??
NYTimes article: 11/25/15 RE: Sen. Sanders
His mayoralty was his only experience as a chief executive, and it showed him to be a leader guided more by practicality than ideology.
..how Mr. Sanders governed — as a pragmatist.
The mayor who was quick to condemn millionaires also imposed fiscal discipline here in this laid-back blue-collar university town of 38,000 residents. He used a budget surplus not to experiment with a socialist concept like redistributing wealth but to fix the city’s deteriorating streets. And he oversaw the revitalization of downtown, often working with big business.
U.S. News and World Report named him one of the nation’s 20 top mayors in 1987..
Mr. Sanders, frugal by nature, set the tone - conducted the first audit of Burlington’s pension system in a quarter-century. They moved the city’s money into higher-yielding accounts. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/us/politics/as-mayor-bernie-sanders-wa...
Lots of mayors in the US - few make a top 20 list, ever. Speaks volumes.
Someone has to stop Wall St. and the "two-for-one" Clinton Duo removed Glass-Steagall and other regulatory oversight of Wall Street. She Cannot Put Back That which She Removed...
His mayoralty was his only experience as a chief executive, and it showed him to be a leader guided more by practicality than ideology.
..how Mr. Sanders governed — as a pragmatist.
The mayor who was quick to condemn millionaires also imposed fiscal discipline here in this laid-back blue-collar university town of 38,000 residents. He used a budget surplus not to experiment with a socialist concept like redistributing wealth but to fix the city’s deteriorating streets. And he oversaw the revitalization of downtown, often working with big business.
U.S. News and World Report named him one of the nation’s 20 top mayors in 1987..
Mr. Sanders, frugal by nature, set the tone - conducted the first audit of Burlington’s pension system in a quarter-century. They moved the city’s money into higher-yielding accounts. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/26/us/politics/as-mayor-bernie-sanders-wa...
Lots of mayors in the US - few make a top 20 list, ever. Speaks volumes.
Someone has to stop Wall St. and the "two-for-one" Clinton Duo removed Glass-Steagall and other regulatory oversight of Wall Street. She Cannot Put Back That which She Removed...
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Excuse me, but "SHE" had nothing to do with the removal of Glass-Steagall herself. I believe Clinton just signed something that Congress put together in a go along and get along framework, having been convinced by the barrage of lobbyists (both Congress and POTUS) that this was necessary for "progress" and that law was out of date. Well almost every piece of legislation has its share of unintended consequences. Even Government can live and learn.
Mary, you are excused, and I wish it were that simple.
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The lede from another NYT article today:
"Locked in a fierce fight with Hillary Clinton to win the New York primary, Senator Bernie Sanders took his plea for a political revolution to the heart of Greenwich Village on Wednesday and heaped particular scorn on Wall Street to the delight of several thousand jubilant supporters."
Several thousand? Try several tens of thousands of jubilant supporters.
NYT, you embarrass yourself.
"Locked in a fierce fight with Hillary Clinton to win the New York primary, Senator Bernie Sanders took his plea for a political revolution to the heart of Greenwich Village on Wednesday and heaped particular scorn on Wall Street to the delight of several thousand jubilant supporters."
Several thousand? Try several tens of thousands of jubilant supporters.
NYT, you embarrass yourself.
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Do you remember when one debate sufficed for Kennedy and Nixon? Today’s candidates must be exhausted as they debate endlessly in glittering arenas goaded to differentiate themselves in increasingly banal ways. Big money is spent on ads; big money is made by TV channels, But have we been enlightened? Apparently the only way we can get citizens to pay attention and vote is to turn the pre-election period into a circus.
I have battle fatigue, but I will make myself watch what I hope will be the last Clinton-Sanders debate for a while. I’ve known from the beginning the essential differences between the two. I know Bernie Sanders is right about the corruption of money in too many aspects of American life. But I don’t think we’re ready for the chaos of a French Revolution or another Civil War to try to make that happen.. Change in a democracy struggling domestically and internationally must be incremental. Hillary Clinton’s brains, experience, and willingness to work within our reality stands a better chance. I trust her with her and my vision of a fairer, saner America.
Thanks, Bernie, for reminding us of major flaws in our deregulated financial world.
Thanks, Hillary for having a lifetime of struggle in politics to prepare you to be our next President.
I have battle fatigue, but I will make myself watch what I hope will be the last Clinton-Sanders debate for a while. I’ve known from the beginning the essential differences between the two. I know Bernie Sanders is right about the corruption of money in too many aspects of American life. But I don’t think we’re ready for the chaos of a French Revolution or another Civil War to try to make that happen.. Change in a democracy struggling domestically and internationally must be incremental. Hillary Clinton’s brains, experience, and willingness to work within our reality stands a better chance. I trust her with her and my vision of a fairer, saner America.
Thanks, Bernie, for reminding us of major flaws in our deregulated financial world.
Thanks, Hillary for having a lifetime of struggle in politics to prepare you to be our next President.
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Kennedy and Nixon had 3 debates!
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There were four Kennedy-Nixon debates.
I'm afraid CNN will focus on who said what and why this past week than the actual issues. The New York Daily News, a tabloid magazine at best, will likely be mentioned in the "qualifications" debate to make things even more confusing. I'd be surprised if CNN brings up Clintons "guns in New York come from Vermont" claim. There are many many things to debunk tonight, but hopefully the debates focuses on the issues.
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Here is a sample of HRC's "substance and depth":
She will not release her Wall Street presentations transcripts unless all candidates release theirs. Curiously, no debate mediator presses her on such a lame excuse.
She went to Wall Street and sternly warned them to: "cut it out." Wow! She slapped their collective wrist too.
She voted for the war in Iraq. Oops Sorry, it was a mistake. I have to say so much depth and experience were employed here. After all, billions of dollars were at stake.
She had her own personal server because she did not want to carry two phones. Her Tech support could have told her she could have two e-mail accounts on a single phone.
I think it is time for her to "stay home and bake cookies."
She will not release her Wall Street presentations transcripts unless all candidates release theirs. Curiously, no debate mediator presses her on such a lame excuse.
She went to Wall Street and sternly warned them to: "cut it out." Wow! She slapped their collective wrist too.
She voted for the war in Iraq. Oops Sorry, it was a mistake. I have to say so much depth and experience were employed here. After all, billions of dollars were at stake.
She had her own personal server because she did not want to carry two phones. Her Tech support could have told her she could have two e-mail accounts on a single phone.
I think it is time for her to "stay home and bake cookies."
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A serious look at Hillary's wannabe Kissinger acts would be welcome in this debate.
It would be 4 years of nausea, if we do the wrong thing by placing this authentic neocon into office. War is steadily destroying our country. A Clinton II White House would be another nail in the coffin of our democracy.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/hear_hillary_clinton_defend_her_ro...
It would be 4 years of nausea, if we do the wrong thing by placing this authentic neocon into office. War is steadily destroying our country. A Clinton II White House would be another nail in the coffin of our democracy.
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/hear_hillary_clinton_defend_her_ro...
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Not exactly a position of strength to extol one candidate by deriding the other.
N.
I'm with Sanders on the growing wealth disparity threatening our democracy, ditto for the military & prison complexes.
I also know Sanders will be far more serious on Climate Change.
Hillary's support from our Neocons and her admiration for the war criminal, Kissinger is right up there in my priorities and needs to be understood by the public. (I knew refugees from his Operation Condor)
Here's one good article you might appreciate on Sanders & foreign policy.
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/14/474134063/understanding-bernie-sanders-for...
I'm with Sanders on the growing wealth disparity threatening our democracy, ditto for the military & prison complexes.
I also know Sanders will be far more serious on Climate Change.
Hillary's support from our Neocons and her admiration for the war criminal, Kissinger is right up there in my priorities and needs to be understood by the public. (I knew refugees from his Operation Condor)
Here's one good article you might appreciate on Sanders & foreign policy.
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/14/474134063/understanding-bernie-sanders-for...
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N. Smith
Clark was speaking in the idiom of the Hillary crowd.
Clark was speaking in the idiom of the Hillary crowd.
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What to Look For in the Democratic Debate?
Saint Bernie continuing to go personal and negative.
Saint Bernie continuing to go personal and negative.
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While victim Hillary is saying everyone is being mean to her. That always works to get the ladies to come to her defense.
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Another article suggests that Sanders is being much tougher against Clinton than Obama was. Are we suffering from some sort of amnesia? Find a transcript of the debates that featured Edwards (too bad about him) and Obama and Clinton. Obama was more than willing to take her on. And she came down hard on him. I think she's finding it harder to attack Bernie because his record is his record, and picking out the least significant weaknesses makes her look desperate.
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Sorry. But if anything is insignificant, it's his record.
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What exactly is Sanders' record? What has he accomplished in 30 years in Congress on the taxpayers' dime? Nothing. He'd get fired at McDonald's his first week on the job if he was as unproductive there as he's been in Washington.
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@Cowboy - Thanks for the laugh today - Bernie Sanders got fired at McDonald's his first week on the job - love it!
And in answer to your first two questions -
https://philebersole.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/bernie-sanders-record-in-c...
And in answer to your first two questions -
https://philebersole.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/bernie-sanders-record-in-c...
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My heart is with Bernie, but my head is with Hillary.
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Why not earn a Hilda Bern? I want one of them for VP, the other just has to eat their ego and enjoy it.
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As a therapist I always told my clients that when thei head and heart disagreed to trust their hearts.
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I'd like for Bernie to explain why he so easily goes after companies like Verizon but ignores Apple for similar business practices that he finds so abhorrent. Could it be that going after Apple wouldn't sit well with his Millennial base who worship their IPhones?
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He has gone after Apple.
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He spoke of Apple's tax avoidance specifically, several times.
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Could it be there there are so many crony capitalists and so little time?
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To those who question the utility of yet another debate: realize that there are voters who even now are just beginning to pay attention, and only now because the day for them to cast their vote is imminent. There's a reason that Sanders' polling inexorably climbs while Clinton's steadily decreases as time goes on: more people are becoming aware of the differences between the candidates and their positions, and are forming opinions based on more than name recognition. Any event that helps to directly inform the broader electorate and bypass the lens of the establishment-biased media is good for democracy.
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Polls don't are notoriously inaccurate and don't matter. Votes and Delegates do.
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Bitter Bernie and his followers are the new Ralph Nader seemingly gleefully prepared to hand the White House and Supreme Court to the right wing religious zealots and oligarchs in order to stroke their egos and utopian fantasies. Grow-up and study history. Eugene McCarthy. George McGovern. Ralph Nader. Bernard Sanders.
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Hillary Sachs works not for you and I, but for Wall Street. She already works for them, and has, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. Why doesn't this bother you? How can you look beyond this?
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Bernie is anything but bitter: he is inclusive, sincere and principled. He is running an all-American campaign based on volunteers and small donations from ordinary people.
I am proud to support this honest man who relies on solid, old-fashioned values.
I am proud to support this honest man who relies on solid, old-fashioned values.
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Each of the former candidates you mentioned above have 1000% more integrity in their little pinky finger than Hillary Clinton has in her body. The fact that they were defeated in elections just shows how profoundly flawed, corrupt and rigged our electoral system is, and how ignorant the average US voter is. The Democrats will be whining about Nader for another 50 years, even as if analyzed, the FACTS prove that Nader did not deprive a weak and lackluster Al Gore the election of 2000.
Here is a detailed explanation of the 2000 Gore- Nader-Florida vote on the very partisan Dem site dailykos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
And here, despite all the evidence about that Nader-Gore Florida vote listed on the Kos site, is the best interpretation of the way Dems still handle the facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9VMY8X9rU8
I have only regretted my last two votes for Dem POTUS candidates. This time I feel I have a real choice. Senator Sanders.
Here is a detailed explanation of the 2000 Gore- Nader-Florida vote on the very partisan Dem site dailykos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
And here, despite all the evidence about that Nader-Gore Florida vote listed on the Kos site, is the best interpretation of the way Dems still handle the facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9VMY8X9rU8
I have only regretted my last two votes for Dem POTUS candidates. This time I feel I have a real choice. Senator Sanders.
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The Sanders supporters are many and loud on this comment thread.
The silent majority of Clinton supporters won't be so silent in the voting booth.
Thank goodness.
Bernie is like a rock star.
Hillary definitely is not.
But really, a rock star for President?
In this day when national security is such a major factor?
The silent majority of Clinton supporters won't be so silent in the voting booth.
Thank goodness.
Bernie is like a rock star.
Hillary definitely is not.
But really, a rock star for President?
In this day when national security is such a major factor?
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Oh please. So can we conclude you approve of the way Mrs. Clinton allowed the Russians to take over control of a third of America's uranium production in exchange for signing off on a bill which needed her signature to adopt the measure allowing such control? All so a six figure contribution could be funneled to the Clinton Foundation through a Canadian company also controlled by the Russians?
Did you ever read the article in this newspaper?
Did you ever read the article in this newspaper?
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We got the national security thing down, what with our military that is as large and well-funded as the next ten nations combined. We are good there.
Now, how about doing a little "Nation Building" right here at home? That is what Mr. Sanders is demanding.
Now, how about doing a little "Nation Building" right here at home? That is what Mr. Sanders is demanding.
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Welcome to the facebook age. Bernie's supporters think he should be president because he has more likes.
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It is important that he release his tax records, I can find mine in ten minutes or less. What are the Sanders doing to clean their tax records that takes so many months? Is he afraid his followers might find that he is wealthier than anyone knew?
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Yes. And what about all those millions he's raking in ($48+ mil.)???
No accounting for, or transparency about that. And nothing going to the Democratic Party either, which he continues to slam, while running under its banner. Go figure.
No accounting for, or transparency about that. And nothing going to the Democratic Party either, which he continues to slam, while running under its banner. Go figure.
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Sure, Bernie Sanders should probably reassure his supporters and convince others that he knows what he's been talking about. Just like Republicans should tell us how they're going to pay for "making our military stronger" and expanding the war in the Middle East to take down ISIS. Or all the logistical and legal details of deporting 11 million illegal immigrants and what kind of health insurance we'll have after they repeal Obamacare "on Day One." Nobody is holding them to the same "show me" standards as his opponents, in both parties and the media, are demanding of Senator Sanders. Sanders is the not the only politician who says, "Trust me, I can get it done. I know the ropes." They ALL do that. All political promises of major change in the status quo are "idealistic" and "unrealistic". It's just a matter of which changes you want and whom you trust. I want the changes Bernie Sanders wants and I trust him to do everything a president can to deliver.
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Well, Good Luck with that. You'd better read up on what Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan have in mind first.
Today the US media will show how much it merits its 49th place ranking in Press Freedom from Reporters Without Borders. The release of the Oxfam report showing how US corporations have avoided their responsibilities in taking care of the people of the world especially its poorest by bribing politicians at home and abroad has seen the light of day.
Oxfam is not a political organization it is the premier World humanitarian agency. Its report simply and straight forwardly screams that in 2016 America there is only one possible candidate for anyone who believes in morality and personal responsibility and that is Bernie Sanders.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/14/us-corporations-14-trillion...
Oxfam is not a political organization it is the premier World humanitarian agency. Its report simply and straight forwardly screams that in 2016 America there is only one possible candidate for anyone who believes in morality and personal responsibility and that is Bernie Sanders.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/14/us-corporations-14-trillion...
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Not to be rude, but you're Canadian, so you don't really have a dog in this race. And the Guardian (which I also read) is a Brit paper with a notably Socialist slant, so no surprise there--
Next, your Sainted Bernie Sanders is delusional if he thinks he can change the Corporate greed that rules America in the twinkling of an eye.
President Obama has recently hit the nail on the head by preventing U.S. Corporations to relocate overseas to avoid paying taxes, so there's obviously more than one person able to do something.
Next, your Sainted Bernie Sanders is delusional if he thinks he can change the Corporate greed that rules America in the twinkling of an eye.
President Obama has recently hit the nail on the head by preventing U.S. Corporations to relocate overseas to avoid paying taxes, so there's obviously more than one person able to do something.
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Mr Smith,
You know nothing about me. You know nothing about me or my family or my grandchildren. You know nothing about my income much of which is US Social Security. You are just another ignorant soul willing to say anything to stop the truth from coming out. Shining light in dark corners exposes things we might not like to see like termites in the foundation logs.
What happens in Washington affects me and everyone else on the planet and even if 90% of my family wasn't voting in November I would be heavily invested in this November's election.
Yes the Guardian is Left wing but the report mentioned is from Oxfam not exactly a political front group. When I lived in Chicago State Senator Obama was a respected member of the community and saw campaign funding coming from my wife, daughter and grandchildren.
President has done a fine job under very difficult circumstances but the Oxfam report does show for every dollar spent on lobbying and campaign donations the 1% receive 130 dollars in tax breaks and $4,000 in federal loans.
Bernie can't change the system but if he can restore even a little democracy to the USA he will have done a lot.
You know nothing about me. You know nothing about me or my family or my grandchildren. You know nothing about my income much of which is US Social Security. You are just another ignorant soul willing to say anything to stop the truth from coming out. Shining light in dark corners exposes things we might not like to see like termites in the foundation logs.
What happens in Washington affects me and everyone else on the planet and even if 90% of my family wasn't voting in November I would be heavily invested in this November's election.
Yes the Guardian is Left wing but the report mentioned is from Oxfam not exactly a political front group. When I lived in Chicago State Senator Obama was a respected member of the community and saw campaign funding coming from my wife, daughter and grandchildren.
President has done a fine job under very difficult circumstances but the Oxfam report does show for every dollar spent on lobbying and campaign donations the 1% receive 130 dollars in tax breaks and $4,000 in federal loans.
Bernie can't change the system but if he can restore even a little democracy to the USA he will have done a lot.
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@moe
With all due respect, I don't really need to know anything about you, or your family. But thanks for sharing. However I do have a vested interest in the fate of my country, because I live here.
Another thing. As a working journalist, I have the tendency to shine a light on things.
Also-- it is not necessary, or even polite, to resort to calling one names just because they have a different opinion.
And just for the record, it's MS. Smith.
With all due respect, I don't really need to know anything about you, or your family. But thanks for sharing. However I do have a vested interest in the fate of my country, because I live here.
Another thing. As a working journalist, I have the tendency to shine a light on things.
Also-- it is not necessary, or even polite, to resort to calling one names just because they have a different opinion.
And just for the record, it's MS. Smith.
This is a dawning of an age called Aquarius.
See, folks who follow star dust claim this is the gradual, not vapid, deconstruction of an age well past its porpoise. I should know, I'm Pisces and I'm getting so old I remind myself of somebody I forgot. Now I remember, but I bet I forget the link, rethinkers.
See, folks who follow star dust claim this is the gradual, not vapid, deconstruction of an age well past its porpoise. I should know, I'm Pisces and I'm getting so old I remind myself of somebody I forgot. Now I remember, but I bet I forget the link, rethinkers.
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I understand the frustration of viewers and readers who are tired of the Presidential elections. I feel the same way every Final Four, World Series and Super Bowl. To some of us politics is more important than sports and so we are willing to listen, read and consume large quantities of political information. I hope that Hillary will finally get Bernie to explain why he voted against the Zadroga Act, which provided Lifetime health benefits for sickened 9/11 first responders. His inability to accept the compromise that allowed this and the funding of Planned Parenthood to occur, is a fatal flaw for anyone who wants to be President.
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Bernie voted against the Zadroga Act because he is NOT a New Yorker.
Anybody who was actually HERE on 9/11, knows the importance of having a Bill like that passed.
And that's something no Brooklyn accent can't cover-up, or excuse.
Anybody who was actually HERE on 9/11, knows the importance of having a Bill like that passed.
And that's something no Brooklyn accent can't cover-up, or excuse.
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If anyone cares, you can sum up Glass-Steagall in four corners. Your normal commerce bank, your goldie sacks, your insurance hacks and those poor brokers who get busted.
Used to be none of them could collude to con the others, each to his own corner. So goldie could not con brokers into selling bad deals to clients for a security kickback, commerce banks didn't get their cranks caught up in golidie's speculations, and insurance NEVER makes bets without collateral as we have since Bill Clinton and Alan Greenspan set the world on fire...can I get insurance for that?
Used to be none of them could collude to con the others, each to his own corner. So goldie could not con brokers into selling bad deals to clients for a security kickback, commerce banks didn't get their cranks caught up in golidie's speculations, and insurance NEVER makes bets without collateral as we have since Bill Clinton and Alan Greenspan set the world on fire...can I get insurance for that?
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I could have sold you the Caldwallader model, but this one runs better and gets you to the brokerage on time. Plus it's FREE.
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Both parties are suffering from their own party-level gerrymandering which allows the party to select its constituency rather than the other way around. The party that first recognizes this and best corrects it may be the winner in the final election in November for that very reason. The Democrats have the most to gain since Sanders would likely benefit from reforms that allowed same day registration and encouraged non-party potential voters to join early.
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We need Bernie's tax refunds. And not just the 2015 summary page. Democratic voters deserve to know who Sanders really is and he needs to release his full taxes going back several years. Clinton released her full tax records spanning several years. What is Sanders hiding?
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And what is Clinton hiding in her paid speeches?
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Same fear the mob slobbering Citigroup sent their richest clients...
http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/12/citigroup-plutonomy-memos-two...
Better build a better fortress, Barons.
http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/12/citigroup-plutonomy-memos-two...
Better build a better fortress, Barons.
I want to see the full transcripts of Bernie's Nicaragua speeches, too, while we're at it.
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Couldn't agree more. Is the choice for Democrats between a candidate who might not be able to deliver on promises and one who might not want to? Either of these people is head and shoulders over Republicans on offer.
Sanders not only has a powerful message of democratic reform but projects an image of humility, sincerity and lofty purpose. The criticism that his policies lack specificity is without much substance. He is no less clear on how he would implement them than is Clinton - and certainly far more coherent and precise than Trump or Cruz. That said, Sanders is at risk of being seen as a one-trick pony. In some respects, for example, he seems to have abandoned racial grievances - and hence the African American vote - to Clinton. What he has not enunciated effectively is the positive impact his reforms in banking, health care, electoral financing and criminal law would have on minorities. Nor has he accentuated the economic benefits associated with a less hawkish foreign policy and use of military intervention.
No one doubts Clintons superior intellect, knowledge and experience. What remains in doubt is how committed she is to tackling the unseemly ties between America's financial and political institutions. She disparages Sanders ability to get things done but leaves open whether - in the presence of a hostile congress - her prospects for fundamental change are any better. Many Americans, it seems, want more than a caretaker president this time around.
Sanders not only has a powerful message of democratic reform but projects an image of humility, sincerity and lofty purpose. The criticism that his policies lack specificity is without much substance. He is no less clear on how he would implement them than is Clinton - and certainly far more coherent and precise than Trump or Cruz. That said, Sanders is at risk of being seen as a one-trick pony. In some respects, for example, he seems to have abandoned racial grievances - and hence the African American vote - to Clinton. What he has not enunciated effectively is the positive impact his reforms in banking, health care, electoral financing and criminal law would have on minorities. Nor has he accentuated the economic benefits associated with a less hawkish foreign policy and use of military intervention.
No one doubts Clintons superior intellect, knowledge and experience. What remains in doubt is how committed she is to tackling the unseemly ties between America's financial and political institutions. She disparages Sanders ability to get things done but leaves open whether - in the presence of a hostile congress - her prospects for fundamental change are any better. Many Americans, it seems, want more than a caretaker president this time around.
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I doubt that Clinton's knowledge and experience are positive.
If all those year were really something that serve as credentials for being elected to the presidency, why is she continually changing her positions to be closer to her competitor's, Bernie Sanders?
Why won't she publish the contents of her paid-for speeches to the financial sector?
Does eveyone know that she also charges public universities (aka the University of Connecticut) $250,000 to speak? That money would have paid for 4 Connecticut students to get degrees from UCONN!
If all those year were really something that serve as credentials for being elected to the presidency, why is she continually changing her positions to be closer to her competitor's, Bernie Sanders?
Why won't she publish the contents of her paid-for speeches to the financial sector?
Does eveyone know that she also charges public universities (aka the University of Connecticut) $250,000 to speak? That money would have paid for 4 Connecticut students to get degrees from UCONN!
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I hope you are not suggesting that Obama has been merely a caretaker President. ACA, same sex marriage legal across the nation, significant job growth, as much tax reform as he could get through this horrid Congress, the Iran deal.
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Well, contrary to your conclusion you can always look at Bernie's 25 year history in congress and see the results of his vision and image (a few post offices named, colleagues - none of whom endorse him --) and HRC's lifetime of public service beginning with work with the Children's Defense fund in efforts to help black children in the south to the implementation of her CHIP insurance program, and heath benefits for 911 first responders. Also the passage of the ACA which was based on her work for universal coverage back in the 1990's as first lady.
It is pretty easy to see who actually gets things done -- Hillary Clinton
It is pretty easy to see who actually gets things done -- Hillary Clinton
For months we've been listening to Donard Trump push most of us out of our comfort zones. He fights with fire and speaks to others In the manner of a "5th grader". Many, including th NYT, have justifiably criticized this harmful public discourse as a new low. But new lows often quickly become the standard in our increasingly guttural culture. The NYT now wonders if Sanders can "fight outside his comfort zone" and can Clinton "fight on her own terms" and "show fire on Wall Street." It' s Spring...maybe that's why I smell teen hypocrisy.
I have seen several posts to this effect; "I really struggle to understand why the average man or woman would vote for anyone other than Sanders. The plutocrats have been increasing their control over our world for thirty years and the results have led to painful circumstances for too many as well as environmental degradation. HC has been willing to participate in that...Bernie has fought against it all the while. End of story!"
My question is, during his 25 years in congress, what has Bernie done to support this theme? In 25 yuuuuge years in office, he has been the chief sponsor of 3 pieces of legislation; two renaming post offices and one raising the cost-of-living increases for veterans' benefits.
What has he been doing the rest of the time?
My question is, during his 25 years in congress, what has Bernie done to support this theme? In 25 yuuuuge years in office, he has been the chief sponsor of 3 pieces of legislation; two renaming post offices and one raising the cost-of-living increases for veterans' benefits.
What has he been doing the rest of the time?
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Here is some information on Sanders, The Amendment King
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record...
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record...
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We elected the inspirational candidate 8 years ago and he'll go out with an over 90% approval rating within his party. We have already taken the step away from the Reagan/Bush generation. Do we really want to veer off in yet another direction?
Hillary Clinton is certainly not a great, inspirational politician and she says so herself. But after election day she truly has what it takes to move this nation farther and farther in the right direction. She is, as Obama says himself, "wickedly smart". Her knowledge of policy and her obvious and strong commitment to a real position on virtually every issue is something we haven't seen in a presidential contest I can remember.
With that, I don't believe that Hillary Clinton will only be a continuation of the Obama administration or a return to that of her husband's. She is her own person. She comes from a very different place and has a long history of accomplishments of her own.
Sometimes I see old clips of the (very, very young) Bill and Hillary Clinton at White House functions and genuinely do think for a moment "wait ... by returning this family to the White House are we going to be moving backwards? Has this moment already happened over 20 years ago?" etc.
But then I correct myself. I am *certainly* not the man I was in the 1990s. My position and feelings have changed on so many issues as times do indeed change.
We need Hillary Clinton right now. We don't need, and at this point we will never get a "political revolution".
Hillary Clinton is certainly not a great, inspirational politician and she says so herself. But after election day she truly has what it takes to move this nation farther and farther in the right direction. She is, as Obama says himself, "wickedly smart". Her knowledge of policy and her obvious and strong commitment to a real position on virtually every issue is something we haven't seen in a presidential contest I can remember.
With that, I don't believe that Hillary Clinton will only be a continuation of the Obama administration or a return to that of her husband's. She is her own person. She comes from a very different place and has a long history of accomplishments of her own.
Sometimes I see old clips of the (very, very young) Bill and Hillary Clinton at White House functions and genuinely do think for a moment "wait ... by returning this family to the White House are we going to be moving backwards? Has this moment already happened over 20 years ago?" etc.
But then I correct myself. I am *certainly* not the man I was in the 1990s. My position and feelings have changed on so many issues as times do indeed change.
We need Hillary Clinton right now. We don't need, and at this point we will never get a "political revolution".
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Will climate change be discussed?
It's only the greatest threat we face.
It's only the greatest threat we face.
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Sanders has shown himself to be a leader in this campaign. Sanders has become a stronger candidate. Any mistakes his campaign or followers have made are soon corrected. Hillary has become a weaker candidate, as she reveals who she actually is: saying Reagan was constructive on AIDS, citing Kissinger as an adviser, taking part in that inexplicable racial joke. She does indeed have poor judgment and, in spite of copying Sander's positions, reveals that she really is allied with Wall Street, Kissinger and all they brought us: war and economic injustice. Make no mistake: she is a neo conservative. She should just be honest about it. If she were ever elected she would retreat very fast from any Sanders' style positions she may have adopted during the election.
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It's all very well and good to criticize Clinton for her speaking fees, but I have yet to see Sanders (or any of his supporters) actually prove any behavior on her part where her decision-making has somehow been influenced.
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Not necessary, Jeff. It's an unhealthy conflict of interest - unless you think Clinton is a really, really, really good speaker.
After trying to ignore Bernie Sanders, and then seeing support for him grow as he has won primary after primary, the Clinton campaign and its surrogates have been very busy trying to disqualify him. This strategy of disqualify, defeat, and unify later is going to backfire, and has already alienated many of the very constituency needed to win in November.
Hillary Clinton is campaigning on a "pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change", while accepting the very corporate cash that opposes any real changes in a system that guarantees increasing inequality and degradation of the environment.
We have questions that need real answers. Ask her how she will take on the very big banks who have made big donations to her campaign. Ask her about how her use of a private e-mail server allowed her to avoid Freedom of Information requests from private citizens. Ask her about her leadership in the catastrophic war in Libya. Ask her about donations from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation. Ask her how she will end mass incarceration and detention of immigrants when she has received donations from the private prison lobby.
Hillary Clinton is campaigning on a "pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change", while accepting the very corporate cash that opposes any real changes in a system that guarantees increasing inequality and degradation of the environment.
We have questions that need real answers. Ask her how she will take on the very big banks who have made big donations to her campaign. Ask her about how her use of a private e-mail server allowed her to avoid Freedom of Information requests from private citizens. Ask her about her leadership in the catastrophic war in Libya. Ask her about donations from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation. Ask her how she will end mass incarceration and detention of immigrants when she has received donations from the private prison lobby.
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FYI - Wikipedia has an "Electoral History of Bernie Sanders" which you might find interesting. It shows that Sanders lost many elections, since 1972. You might see him as a loser, or you might see him as an experienced political fighter, who never gives up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_hi…
I feel that Sanders should team up with Hillary. Hillary has the experience and as a woman, she can energize the nation toward equality. Bernie has the Chutzpah to wake people up.
But both candidates have major flaws. But by coming together, they may be able to strengthen each other, for a "more perfect union."
Hillary and Bernie, together!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_hi…
I feel that Sanders should team up with Hillary. Hillary has the experience and as a woman, she can energize the nation toward equality. Bernie has the Chutzpah to wake people up.
But both candidates have major flaws. But by coming together, they may be able to strengthen each other, for a "more perfect union."
Hillary and Bernie, together!
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Is another debate really needed. I would have refused like Trump (once he is right). And I really don't want to hear Sanders voice anymore and how all of a sudden he is starting this so called Revolution
Yet I don't where he was during the Bush years or when Bush was running for president and maybe then needed someone to fight and yell. I also want to know Mr. BROOKLYN BERNIE all of the sudden, where were you during 9/11 and Super Storm Sandy?? Were you around fighting then? You are in a fantasy land on what you are proposing and yet have not specific plans for anything accept raising taxes and taxing the rich more. You take no strong stance on gun control which is an epidemic now in this country. You act like Hillary proposed to start the War in Iraq when it was Bush and many other democrats voted for that War but yet Hillary is to blame. You should have pounded on Bush not Hillary. She merely did what others thought was best to go in for Inspection Purposes. She did not ask for a long drawn out War. So blame Bush and his administration. Not once did I hear his name in all your fighting. Not to mention you slam trade deals where NAFTA had many successes in the 90s and Clinton left our country with over 200 billion surplus. Please go back to Vermont and hang out with your guns and cows. You don't belong in NY or the White House.
Yet I don't where he was during the Bush years or when Bush was running for president and maybe then needed someone to fight and yell. I also want to know Mr. BROOKLYN BERNIE all of the sudden, where were you during 9/11 and Super Storm Sandy?? Were you around fighting then? You are in a fantasy land on what you are proposing and yet have not specific plans for anything accept raising taxes and taxing the rich more. You take no strong stance on gun control which is an epidemic now in this country. You act like Hillary proposed to start the War in Iraq when it was Bush and many other democrats voted for that War but yet Hillary is to blame. You should have pounded on Bush not Hillary. She merely did what others thought was best to go in for Inspection Purposes. She did not ask for a long drawn out War. So blame Bush and his administration. Not once did I hear his name in all your fighting. Not to mention you slam trade deals where NAFTA had many successes in the 90s and Clinton left our country with over 200 billion surplus. Please go back to Vermont and hang out with your guns and cows. You don't belong in NY or the White House.
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You seem very angry.
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They think he's running against Bush? Trauma can do that to us. I still gt creeped out with this rewalking of movie script that led up to Raygun's Star Wars.
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rewalkingmoviescript, I want the rights to that one, partners. It's derivative to the maximum dosage!
When ever Hillary picks up on a Sanders message and tries to make it her own Sanders needs to stop being nice and say. See, See, this is why you cannot trust her. Do you really believe that a Candidate who takes money from Wall Street, from big everyone will be for you the people or for Big everyone? The answer is obvious, and Sanders needs to hammer her with it.
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Honestly, there "nothing to look for in the final debate." Hillary is a known quantity at this point, and her "body of work" is what it is, whether you are a fan of her or not. Bernie has done a pretty good job over the last 6 months of explaining his views, as a long-time Senator who was largely unknown outside the Northeast. I'll support either one in November; one with cautious optimism, one holding my nose and cursing my fate. Such is the state of the Republican Party these days.
At debate time tonight, I'll be rehearsing some stunning 17th-century music by George Frederick Handel, getting ready for a concert on Sunday. A much better use of my time, frankly. And a little ironic, too. One of the Handel pieces is "The King Shall Rejoice," a coronation anthem written for George II. Kings don't rule England anymore, but the magnificent music remains. I honestly can't remember the last time I "rejoiced" over my choices for President.
At debate time tonight, I'll be rehearsing some stunning 17th-century music by George Frederick Handel, getting ready for a concert on Sunday. A much better use of my time, frankly. And a little ironic, too. One of the Handel pieces is "The King Shall Rejoice," a coronation anthem written for George II. Kings don't rule England anymore, but the magnificent music remains. I honestly can't remember the last time I "rejoiced" over my choices for President.
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Only the New York Times could start an article about Bernie Sanders appearing last night in Washington Square saying "several thousand" people were on hand, and then four paragraphs later conceding it was North of 27,000.
Meanwhile, Hillary couldn't fill Radio City Music Hall, capacity 500.
Tonight, Bernie needs to disassemble the Clintonian construct that all of that corporate cash has no effect on her decision-making. Use Warren's recollection of then Senator Clinton doing a 180 degree turn on credit card bankruptcy laws after getting (and still getting) big donations.
Let the American people see how Clinton hides her speech transcripts behind the ridiculous ploy that "everybody else" needs to release theirs.
Look straight into the camera, laugh and tell the truth: there isn't any other candidate in the race that made $14 million dollars in speaking fees in one year. Tell them that no other candidate has made that much money on speeches in their LIFETIME.
Then, ask her why New Yorkers should believe her change of heart on the TPP if she cannot even be forthright enough to share the texts of some of those speeches.
Her weakness is that she is untrustworthy. Let them count the ways, from Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Iran, Israel, Guatemala, Syria to private prisons, credit card legislation, fracking and refusal to support Glass-Steagall reenactment.
She stands for no change, no hope and no tax increases on the wealthy.
Meanwhile, Hillary couldn't fill Radio City Music Hall, capacity 500.
Tonight, Bernie needs to disassemble the Clintonian construct that all of that corporate cash has no effect on her decision-making. Use Warren's recollection of then Senator Clinton doing a 180 degree turn on credit card bankruptcy laws after getting (and still getting) big donations.
Let the American people see how Clinton hides her speech transcripts behind the ridiculous ploy that "everybody else" needs to release theirs.
Look straight into the camera, laugh and tell the truth: there isn't any other candidate in the race that made $14 million dollars in speaking fees in one year. Tell them that no other candidate has made that much money on speeches in their LIFETIME.
Then, ask her why New Yorkers should believe her change of heart on the TPP if she cannot even be forthright enough to share the texts of some of those speeches.
Her weakness is that she is untrustworthy. Let them count the ways, from Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, Iran, Israel, Guatemala, Syria to private prisons, credit card legislation, fracking and refusal to support Glass-Steagall reenactment.
She stands for no change, no hope and no tax increases on the wealthy.
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The best way (yawn) to break out of the debate doldrums is to not have the debate in the first place.
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"I Know, Becky...Let's put on a show!"
Imagine Bernie and Hillary instead putting on a revival of Babes in Toyland, and we build it better with Lego. Is that my eggo or your ego? We got to get this act together before the whole idea of change blows over.
Positive psychology says three positives equal a negative. It is so easy to be the bummer without knowing it, so just add three wild wonderful ideas to the mix and mash with mint. You'll never forgive me...yes you will!
Imagine Bernie and Hillary instead putting on a revival of Babes in Toyland, and we build it better with Lego. Is that my eggo or your ego? We got to get this act together before the whole idea of change blows over.
Positive psychology says three positives equal a negative. It is so easy to be the bummer without knowing it, so just add three wild wonderful ideas to the mix and mash with mint. You'll never forgive me...yes you will!
I don't live in America nor am I an American citizen but I have been following this Democratic race.
As I outsider, can I just say how sad it is to see the double standard that goes around in this race?
Bernie Sanders has lied several times and yet he is called honest but Hillary is called vile names.
Bernie has attacked Hillary so many times that I have lost count and yet Hillary is not allowed to say anything about him.
Bernie voted for a policy and then changed his mind but that is okay because he is allowed to grow. Hillary on the other hand is not allowed to do that and her past is what is the present.
Bernie voted for the policy in 1994 (Bill Clinton & Black lives Matters issue) and even boosted about it a few years but no, people are not allowed to question him about that. Hillary was not even in the office at that time and yet, she has to be held accountable for it because she was married to President.
Bernie is requesting Hillary to release the transcripts of her speeches but he himself has given speeches but is not asked to provide transcripts. Bernie has also been paid for those speeches and yet, Hillary is not allowed to get paid.
it is mandatory to release your tax return if you stand for election and Hillary has released her tax returns for the past decade. Bernie on the other hand, released a short summary for one year only and gets away with it.
Double standard and misogyny is well alive in America.
As I outsider, can I just say how sad it is to see the double standard that goes around in this race?
Bernie Sanders has lied several times and yet he is called honest but Hillary is called vile names.
Bernie has attacked Hillary so many times that I have lost count and yet Hillary is not allowed to say anything about him.
Bernie voted for a policy and then changed his mind but that is okay because he is allowed to grow. Hillary on the other hand is not allowed to do that and her past is what is the present.
Bernie voted for the policy in 1994 (Bill Clinton & Black lives Matters issue) and even boosted about it a few years but no, people are not allowed to question him about that. Hillary was not even in the office at that time and yet, she has to be held accountable for it because she was married to President.
Bernie is requesting Hillary to release the transcripts of her speeches but he himself has given speeches but is not asked to provide transcripts. Bernie has also been paid for those speeches and yet, Hillary is not allowed to get paid.
it is mandatory to release your tax return if you stand for election and Hillary has released her tax returns for the past decade. Bernie on the other hand, released a short summary for one year only and gets away with it.
Double standard and misogyny is well alive in America.
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WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING iT? Hillary Magazine?
Hillary voted for the Iraq war, Bernie did not. Enough said on foreign policy.
Hillary is in the pockets of Corporations, Banks, & Wall Street; Bernie subsists on small private donations and has always (3 decades) been for the less fortunate, the minorities, etc, ... while Hillary has followed the monied interests.
Misogyny? No, an educated voter with an eye towards the future.
Hillary is in the pockets of Corporations, Banks, & Wall Street; Bernie subsists on small private donations and has always (3 decades) been for the less fortunate, the minorities, etc, ... while Hillary has followed the monied interests.
Misogyny? No, an educated voter with an eye towards the future.
We in America get caught up in Cult of Personality movements from time to time. This year we have two happening at the same time. The Republicans have Donald Trump and the Democrats have Senator Sanders.
Trump is fading. Sanders will too.
Trump is fading. Sanders will too.
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Well I would like the moderators to ask Mr. Sanders:
Senator are you not being hypocritical in smearing Clinton about mass incarceration when you not only voted for the 1994 crime bill, but you also touted your vote for the bill as you being tough on crime when you ran for office in 2006?
Senator Sanders, last night in your speech to the massive crowd you railed against companies like Wal-Mart, but could you help the voters understand why you and others in leadership in Vermont have allowed Wal-Mart and other big corporations gain tax shelter in Vermont?
Mr. Sanders can you explain to the voter why you voted not to renew the assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill and other gun control measures?
Mr. Sanders you speak of the ACA as a compromised bill and it is, but were you not one of the people who worked on that bill to make it as fair as possible for consumers?
Mr. Sanders on the Iraq vote- can you comment on these remarks make by then Senator Clinton: " “This is a difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make. Any vote that may lead to war should be hard, . … My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose.” A vote for the resolution, she argued, “is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our president. And we say to him: Use these powers wisely and as a last resort.”
Senator are you not being hypocritical in smearing Clinton about mass incarceration when you not only voted for the 1994 crime bill, but you also touted your vote for the bill as you being tough on crime when you ran for office in 2006?
Senator Sanders, last night in your speech to the massive crowd you railed against companies like Wal-Mart, but could you help the voters understand why you and others in leadership in Vermont have allowed Wal-Mart and other big corporations gain tax shelter in Vermont?
Mr. Sanders can you explain to the voter why you voted not to renew the assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill and other gun control measures?
Mr. Sanders you speak of the ACA as a compromised bill and it is, but were you not one of the people who worked on that bill to make it as fair as possible for consumers?
Mr. Sanders on the Iraq vote- can you comment on these remarks make by then Senator Clinton: " “This is a difficult vote. This is probably the hardest decision I have ever had to make. Any vote that may lead to war should be hard, . … My vote is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose.” A vote for the resolution, she argued, “is not a vote to rush to war; it is a vote that puts awesome responsibility in the hands of our president. And we say to him: Use these powers wisely and as a last resort.”
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Elizabeth, can you explain how Senator Sanders might have prevented "Wal-Mart and other big corporations gain tax shelter in Vermont" while he was representing Vermont in Washington, D.C.?
Elizabeth, can you explain why Democrats should support a candidate who argues her vote is "not a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose", then hands over that "awesome responsiblity" to a Republican who openly embraced that new doctrine?
Talk is cheap. Lives are not.
Elizabeth, can you explain why Democrats should support a candidate who argues her vote is "not a vote for any new doctrine of preemption or for unilateralism or for the arrogance of American power or purpose", then hands over that "awesome responsiblity" to a Republican who openly embraced that new doctrine?
Talk is cheap. Lives are not.
To reference the NY Daily News interview seems odd. The publisher of that paper is a major AIPAC supporter, as is Secretary Clinton. Sanders has said he is not a big fan of Bibi...so we all knew where the News would try to hit him. After checking out that interview, Sanders came off fine. Hillary is a hawk and Bernie is not. It would be much better if the candidates just discussed their differences on policy in a civilized manner. Bernie will need Hillary's supporters if he plans to win the November election..and she will need his..so just let them discuss the reasons they disagree on certain things. Either of them would be better than any Republican.
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The continuing attacks on Sanders for non-specificity on issues is wrong: he has them, if one looks. However, the issue of financial sector malfeasance, that almost led this country into a depression and that has seen little or no legal accountability for the principals, overwhelms all others.
And protecting Obamacare, though laudable, isn't enough. A single-payer system would save billions and go a long way towards paying for those still unable to afford care.
Certainly, Sanders plans may not entirely be fiscally possible, at the moment and all at once--- but aiming low is a surefire way to miss the target, completely.
And protecting Obamacare, though laudable, isn't enough. A single-payer system would save billions and go a long way towards paying for those still unable to afford care.
Certainly, Sanders plans may not entirely be fiscally possible, at the moment and all at once--- but aiming low is a surefire way to miss the target, completely.
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I'm really tired of Sanders supporters who will say anything, even lie for their "savior". I will not vote for another old white guy, especially one in the pocket of the NRA. I want to see an entire branch of our government change, such as the executive branch being headed by a woman. To me Bernie is selling snake oil to put the NRA in the White House. For God's sake, Hikary, take this phone down!
We need the transcripts.
We need to know who she is today.
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It's disturbing to see Clinton described as a "conventional defender of Israel." She has made sure that there is no light between her and the most radical, extremist, militant and obstructionist right wing government Israel has ever had. Clinton's pandering to AIPAC was both shameful and disgusting. Yet, apparently, that is "conventional." If that is what US politics on this issue has come to, then there is truly no hope for peace between Israelis and Palestinians. Bernie Sanders is the one candidate who has dared to state obvious truths - Israel is killing peace by building settlements and the Palestinians need to be treated fairly. On those grounds alone, he deserves to be President. When you factor in the fact that he is the only candidate talking about the big issues of the day, Sanders ends up looking a lot more relevant than Clinton.
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"In a long interview with The Daily News last week, he repeatedly bristled and dodged when pressed on national security and foreign policy issues, and even on the fine points of some of his core concerns, like banking reform."
Correction - Sanders was PERCEIVED to "have bristled and dodged" by mainstream media interpretations. That would be more accurate, less editorial.
Correction - Sanders was PERCEIVED to "have bristled and dodged" by mainstream media interpretations. That would be more accurate, less editorial.
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It was the editorial board and they do write editorials.
Well I and everyone I know agreed with that perception. I believe a Sanders Presidency would be as bad as a Trump one. Perhaps worse.
Both candidates have stayed away from bringing up important points that could help them because doing so would be messy and require substantial explaining. Hillary voted for TARP (the bank bailout) as did most Democrats presumably because she believed that the prospect of another major bank failure after Lehman Bros. posed risks to the economy that were to big to ignore. It is time for her to own that vote and explain it and not pretend that it was only about the auto bailout. She could also mention that all the TARP money has been repaid to the Treasury plus about $14 billion in profits to the government.
Bernie's single payer plan has been criticized for not having the funding behind it to make it work. All the serious discussion of single payer that I had seen before this election cycle discussed how the billions of dollars that employees and employers are currently paying for health insurance would be affected under a single-payer system. Much of it centered on the need for employers to raise wages to compensate employees for the health insurance contributions they would no longer have to make. These savings could represent the money that would be needed to make a single payer system realistic.
In short, Hillary doesn't want to bring up anything that makes her look sympathetic to the banks, and Bernie does not want to mention that a single payer system would be a windfall to business unless there is a plan in place for employees to recoup their employer's savings.
Bernie's single payer plan has been criticized for not having the funding behind it to make it work. All the serious discussion of single payer that I had seen before this election cycle discussed how the billions of dollars that employees and employers are currently paying for health insurance would be affected under a single-payer system. Much of it centered on the need for employers to raise wages to compensate employees for the health insurance contributions they would no longer have to make. These savings could represent the money that would be needed to make a single payer system realistic.
In short, Hillary doesn't want to bring up anything that makes her look sympathetic to the banks, and Bernie does not want to mention that a single payer system would be a windfall to business unless there is a plan in place for employees to recoup their employer's savings.
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Clearly you, like so may Americans, still understand nothing about single payer healthcare. It is designed around the idea that the government deals directly with the healthcare providers thus, other than some additional bonus coverage, for the most part, eliminates the need for the insurance companies. That is how it works in most of the other industrialized nations which have had this system for decades and that is why they all spend considerably less for healthcare than the U.S.
A single payer system would make the US more competitive because employers would not have the burden of paying for or administering health insurance. All other big rich nations have Single Payer and system like that. It would NOT mean that employers would have to pay employees more. They could pay them less and employees would still be in better shape than without Single Payer.
AND to make your point stronger, good luck getting governmental units (state, county, local and school districts) which have generous employer-paid health benefits to make those dollars available to employees. BTW, absent congressional action, any such payments would be taxed so there is not a dollar for dollar trade off even under the best of circumstances.
The corporate speech maker for self enrichment vs. the self avowed socialist from Vermont who promises more federal budget busting free stuff. That's the choice presented to voters by the Democrat party. Hillary Clinton will do and say anything to get elected, but what has she accomplished for Americans during her political career other than make herself a multi-millionaire? Sanders promises free college for all and universal government paid healthcare, but where will the money come from when the federal government is $20 trillion in debt due to Obama's reckless spending? Neither Clinton or Sanders is deserving of the presidency. Just look at their records and empty promises.
Obama has DECREASED the deficit. College Education costs are a fraction of DoD spending. And the DoD cannot even be audited. The government was collectively paying for a much larger share of college costs just 50 years ago. Healthcare costs are already dwarfing other more productive areas of economic activity that add actual value to our society. In light of these facts, how does one stipulate that the government should have no role in these sectors?
I deplore the use of guns, especially automatic ones. I advocate that we find other ways to make ourselves safer, without endangering those around us. Bernie voted for a ban on assault weapons, and that is the crux of the danger for the public at large. Despite his defense of guns at all, Bernie sanders is absolutely correct when he says that those store owners shouldn't be held liable for selling a "LEGAL" product. That's like saying that we would have to sue our local grocery stores for selling beer and cigarettes. I would suggest that the gun manufacturers be held liable for their products, much how the tobacco industry was. I accept Bernie's answer in this matter as a legal and reasonable, and believe that an understandably angry public is barking up the wrong tree.
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Actually Sanders voted to give gun MANUFACTURERS immunity, so it's no different than giving the tobacco industry immunity for how they marketed (legal) cigarettes.
I'm looking forward for Bernie and Hillary hugging each other at the beginning of the debate and telling the people that basically there are NO disagreements betwenn them AND then both attacking only - and here I quote the Editor’s note from Huffpo: the man who regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar,rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims — 1.6 billion members of an entire religion —
And i want them both attack Drumpf not because of his sickening and despicable character but because Drumpfs example has poisened the political -(and non political) discourse in my homeland to such an extent that IT has to be stopped!
And i want them both attack Drumpf not because of his sickening and despicable character but because Drumpfs example has poisened the political -(and non political) discourse in my homeland to such an extent that IT has to be stopped!
Both candidates should forcefully eschew the politics of personal destruction that has crept into both campaigns in the last few weeks. The Democrats have been good about talking issues and policy and this has been a great counterpoint to the teenagers over in the Republican camp.
I'd like to see Sen. Sanders give a time line for his break up of the big banks. And how he would avoid the inevitable litigation a la MetLife that could tie his plan up for years.
And I would like to see Sec. Clinton be more forthcoming on how she would avoid giving too much deference to big donors.
I'd like to see Sen. Sanders give a time line for his break up of the big banks. And how he would avoid the inevitable litigation a la MetLife that could tie his plan up for years.
And I would like to see Sec. Clinton be more forthcoming on how she would avoid giving too much deference to big donors.
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If you think the economic and political system in place in this country is fair, then by all means vote for HRC. Since I don't feel that way I intend to vote for Bernie Sanders.
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I'm sure Burns is giving his readers what his editors want to give them and maybe what most readers today want in reporting. The article is yet another fluff opinion piece based in speculation designed to influence the outcome of the debate and to influence public expectations going into the debate. I grow weary of this sort of crystal-ball reporting, but I'm resigned that this sort of reporting is the future of journalism in the U.S.
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Mr Burns,
Sanders like all candidates will depend on experts in his cabinet,if President to tackle the issues of finance, & foreign policy. Every President we ever had, relied on his cabinet on issues out of his expertise, that is why he has a cabinet. Only the ignorant will be taken in by the News interview.As far as, Israel is concerned Koch did not create the chasm between the African Americans & the Jewish Americans, which is one sided, I and most of the Jews I know support our black brethren & only want the Best for them, that is why 70% of us voted for Obama..It was people like Dinkins & Jackson & his reference of New York as hymie town, along with out spoken vehement hatred of Israel, & every thing Jewish that caused it. 99% of Jews do not own rental buildings, but all Jews are slum lords.99% of Jews do not commit crimes, & those that are business men remain in business because they are honest, but all Jews are suspect.At least half of the Jews support a two state solution, & are against the settlements, of which Sanders is outspoken about, but we are all Zionists.The real truth is that Jews were foremost in the fight for black equal rights & marched 8 died for their Black brothers.Even so Black voters are overwhelming against Sanders even though his policy would benefit them far more than the Status Quo of Hillary.I wish my black brethren would explain this to me.
Dear Editors, In all fairness my comments above should be posted.
Sanders like all candidates will depend on experts in his cabinet,if President to tackle the issues of finance, & foreign policy. Every President we ever had, relied on his cabinet on issues out of his expertise, that is why he has a cabinet. Only the ignorant will be taken in by the News interview.As far as, Israel is concerned Koch did not create the chasm between the African Americans & the Jewish Americans, which is one sided, I and most of the Jews I know support our black brethren & only want the Best for them, that is why 70% of us voted for Obama..It was people like Dinkins & Jackson & his reference of New York as hymie town, along with out spoken vehement hatred of Israel, & every thing Jewish that caused it. 99% of Jews do not own rental buildings, but all Jews are slum lords.99% of Jews do not commit crimes, & those that are business men remain in business because they are honest, but all Jews are suspect.At least half of the Jews support a two state solution, & are against the settlements, of which Sanders is outspoken about, but we are all Zionists.The real truth is that Jews were foremost in the fight for black equal rights & marched 8 died for their Black brothers.Even so Black voters are overwhelming against Sanders even though his policy would benefit them far more than the Status Quo of Hillary.I wish my black brethren would explain this to me.
Dear Editors, In all fairness my comments above should be posted.
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Behind closed doors, and in the closet, anti-semetism is prevalent. Rarely do polite people express it out in the open.
Blacks are no more responsible for anti-semetism among their own than any other group.
That said, hidden anti-semetism is one of the things that could cause Sanders to fail in a general election...
leading to the nightmare of a Cruz or Trump presidency.
For several reasons, Sanders is an easy target.
Just one of many reasons I support Hillary Clinton.
Blacks are no more responsible for anti-semetism among their own than any other group.
That said, hidden anti-semetism is one of the things that could cause Sanders to fail in a general election...
leading to the nightmare of a Cruz or Trump presidency.
For several reasons, Sanders is an easy target.
Just one of many reasons I support Hillary Clinton.
I'd like to know why Hillary, after repeated calls from her constituents and even the NYT, still refuses to release the transcripts of her speeches to Goldman Sachs for which she was paid in excess of $600,000. Given what's going on with Verizon, I'd also like to see the transcript of the speech she gave to Verizon for $225,0000. Saying she'll release the transcripts when the Republicans do the same just doesn't cut it. I am a Democrat and would like to vote for the eventual nominee, but will not for Hillary if she doesn't (1) release the paid speech transcripts to Goldman Sachs or (2) failing that, provide a better reason as to why she won't release them. After all, as the NYT Editorial Board so eloquently put it, her excuse now is one we'd expect to hear from a child -- not from a candidate for the highest office in the land.
I'd also like to know why she threw Mayor De Blasio under the bus for the "CP Time" skit. The skit was rehearsed. She knew what was in it. It seems to me she displayed a severe lack of judgment in choosing to participate. She could have declined to be part of it, after all. So why isn't she owning her lack of judgment? Instead, she's pointing the finger at Mayor De Blasio and saying "it was his skit."
I'd also like to know why she threw Mayor De Blasio under the bus for the "CP Time" skit. The skit was rehearsed. She knew what was in it. It seems to me she displayed a severe lack of judgment in choosing to participate. She could have declined to be part of it, after all. So why isn't she owning her lack of judgment? Instead, she's pointing the finger at Mayor De Blasio and saying "it was his skit."
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This is curious to me. Bernie Sanders is dogged--by his opponent, by pundits and by the press in general--for lacking expansive policy chops and experience in those areas outside his wheelhouse: national security, foreign policy, healthcare economics, etc. When did we last have a president who entered office so equipped? Hillary's husband? W? Obama? Which candidate on the other side has such a base of knowledge and expertise? Would it be Trump or Cruz or...? Here's the real question the American people must remove their heads from the sand in order to face: who will bring the most values-based wisdom and vision to bear in focusing the knowledge and experience of the many who will be asked to ultimately create and execute such policies. Values, wisdom and vision are the things we should be judging. For myself, I can feel the Bern.
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Irrespective of how one feels about their specific policies, Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and Obama was a law professor at one of the best schools in the country. They both knew their policies better than their adversaries and could sell them in plain English to the public. It's candidates like George W. Bush who rely on "values-based wisdom," rather than intricate knowledge of a wide array of issues. I don't even want someone I agree with to use the executive branch in the manner W did.
If we're just selecting people based on "values," why would experience matter at all?
All this means is that Bernie should provide the answers that so many of us want to know *as supporters* before the questions are asked by detractors on the right in the general.
If we're just selecting people based on "values," why would experience matter at all?
All this means is that Bernie should provide the answers that so many of us want to know *as supporters* before the questions are asked by detractors on the right in the general.
Agreed. The only candidate with real qualifications for the office is Sec. Clinton.
Alternatively, when have we ever had the *opportunity* to elect a President with such an extraordinary skill and knowledge base? If past Presidents have performed well (or not so well... W) despite their limited experience, might it be possible that a candidate not hampered by their limited expertise and understanding would be more likely to accomplish their policy goals?
Hillary has only served 8 years as an elected official, compared to Sanders, who served 34 years. Sanders has more experience.
At the end it comes down to personal preference and I prefer and believe in Sander, what wont matter, because not I, but the delegates have the last word and they will shovel Clinton down my throat.
Its like they think they owe her the nomination, because they all went for Obama the last time. This all feels like a really bad re-gifting party.
At the end it comes down to personal preference and I prefer and believe in Sander, what wont matter, because not I, but the delegates have the last word and they will shovel Clinton down my throat.
Its like they think they owe her the nomination, because they all went for Obama the last time. This all feels like a really bad re-gifting party.
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Actions speak louder than words. Sanders joined Verizon strikers in Brooklyn; Clinton sent a memo. He went to Wyoming to campaign; she did not. He will go to the Vatican to speak to the world about inequality and injustice; she will not. He released his transcripts on speeches to Wall Street tycoons, like Goldman Sachs which just paid a $5 billion fine for its corporate crimes; she did not. To expect Clinton the Second to offer an "enthralling vision" of the presidency in this pivotal debt is akin to expecting the Dodgers to return to Brooklyn.
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Clinton also joined the Verizon workers & Bernie invited himself to the Vatican.
The Clinton campaign needs to brew up another round of new ideas and initiatives for the future to go along with its defense and suggestions for present and past policies and programs.
Yes, a goodly dose of Gary Hart and Jerry Brown philosophical ingredients should be added to this appealing political pot roast.
Yes, a goodly dose of Gary Hart and Jerry Brown philosophical ingredients should be added to this appealing political pot roast.
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Both the Democrats and the Republican Debates are pure entertainment rather than who will be the World's leader - that is already decided (Hillary). Americans following and supporting any of these candidates don't get this. They think it is for real and every night in front of their TVs with McDonald hamburgers and diet Pepsies they consider themselves the chosen ones creating the future of the World including Iowa and Idaho (which one is which?). America the Funny one from Sea to Shining Sea.
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These debates are a waste of time, and that goes for both the Democratic and Republican debates. Thanks to no restrictions on the country's electoral process, it feels like these debates have been going on for 2 years now, so no one is even paying attention to them, much less even aware when one is coming up. The only thing the debates do at this point is give SNL some new material. Stop the debates. Now.
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But if you have tickets, it is as exciting as anticipating a football game!
You don't have to watch them, you know...
Bernie wanted the debate so please let them have their say. Hillary might be too familiar to voters but Bernie is new, fresh voice. Give him a chance.
The independent voter is going to be critical in the general election. Independent voters are more likely to put their support behind Sanders. Remember, Sanders was an independent which is a clue, and a huge number of democrats like him also. Pushing HRC could be a critical misstep for the democratic party come November
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HOW ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT?
Instead of same old, debate format; Why not make this a homework-assignment debate?
My suggestion give them just 4 questions to prep for, have each of them produce a 2-3 min video to begin, and they all see each others video @noon on the day of the debate to begin each segment
1) What would you plan to do in order to set the context to work with the other political party if you are elected?
2) What do you see as you top 5 Priorities if elected?
3) National Debt is now approaching $20-Trillion, should we plan to EVER pay that off entirely, and if so how far down the road from right now
4) The US spend more on our military than the next 20 countries combined. Is this too much, too little, or about right?
5) By almost all measures, the US Healthcare system is about-average, or below-average among all industrialized nations, but both overall, and on a per-capita basis, we pay nearly twice as much as any other country
Is this OK,or should we do something about that?
If so, what and when?
Instead of same old, debate format; Why not make this a homework-assignment debate?
My suggestion give them just 4 questions to prep for, have each of them produce a 2-3 min video to begin, and they all see each others video @noon on the day of the debate to begin each segment
1) What would you plan to do in order to set the context to work with the other political party if you are elected?
2) What do you see as you top 5 Priorities if elected?
3) National Debt is now approaching $20-Trillion, should we plan to EVER pay that off entirely, and if so how far down the road from right now
4) The US spend more on our military than the next 20 countries combined. Is this too much, too little, or about right?
5) By almost all measures, the US Healthcare system is about-average, or below-average among all industrialized nations, but both overall, and on a per-capita basis, we pay nearly twice as much as any other country
Is this OK,or should we do something about that?
If so, what and when?
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"Comfort zone"? Why? The democrat nomination process, even more than the Republican one, is separated from the voters. Mrs. Clinton's super pacs mean that she is the nominee -- no matter who wins what debate, no matter who wins this or that primary. "It's rigged." Trump, of course, is right.
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When it comes to the Gun Debate, Hillary gets an F Grade from the NRA. I believe that speaks for itself. Mr. Sanders got a D-. He voted against the Brady Bill provision for a Background Check before a firearm purchase could be concluded. Well, pretty straight forward, right? Well, not really. Sanders' state of Vermont just happens to have a constituency that is about mid to low 40% gun owners. Try getting elected if you don't have them on your side. So, it would seem Sanders obviously needed a bone to throw their way, something not too intrusive and obviously came up with something he could easily explain away: the Brady Bill Provision. A handful of States, including Sanders' Vermont, sued and with the support of the NRA, got the provision for Background Checks thrown out as Unconstitutional, securing his needed gun owner support.
He's cagey. He got the Millennials to support him by glomming onto the Millennials up to their ears in Student Loan Debt, gaining their support by railing against the predatory lending practices of the banking Industry. Why else at his rallies does he call out to the throngs for anyone with Student Loan Debt to raise their hands, then yell out how much they owe turning the crowds into a frenzied throng. And then, by coincidence, I think not, this becomes something he associates with Hillary by accusing her of being in bed with Wall Street and thereby securing the Millennial's revulsion of her.
with, and through guilt by association has
He's cagey. He got the Millennials to support him by glomming onto the Millennials up to their ears in Student Loan Debt, gaining their support by railing against the predatory lending practices of the banking Industry. Why else at his rallies does he call out to the throngs for anyone with Student Loan Debt to raise their hands, then yell out how much they owe turning the crowds into a frenzied throng. And then, by coincidence, I think not, this becomes something he associates with Hillary by accusing her of being in bed with Wall Street and thereby securing the Millennial's revulsion of her.
with, and through guilt by association has
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Hillary panders to everyone;Wall Street,Al Sharpton,Banks,etc.The Clinton Foundation is a slush fund to use for her political ambitions.What has Hillary done other than being married to Bill?Sure,she was Sec Of State;but what did she accomplish?Libya,Benghazi,the Russia "reset" are failures.I'm supporting Bernie.
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Somehow your comment comes across as someone who confuses 'pandering' with 'diplomacy'.
Not surprising since it's not exactly a trademark of Mr. Sanders tenure in the Senate.
Sometimes, you have to play with others.
Not surprising since it's not exactly a trademark of Mr. Sanders tenure in the Senate.
Sometimes, you have to play with others.
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N. Smith,
Bernie has earned far more respectful remarks from across the aisle than any other candidate (D, R, or I). Bernie has thrived through diplomacy earning him the title of 'Amendment King'. Read McCain's remarks on passing the Veteran's Affairs overhaul bill just a couple years ago.
No other candidate gets Bernie's respect from those he's worked with in the House, Senate and Mayoral office.
Bernie has earned far more respectful remarks from across the aisle than any other candidate (D, R, or I). Bernie has thrived through diplomacy earning him the title of 'Amendment King'. Read McCain's remarks on passing the Veteran's Affairs overhaul bill just a couple years ago.
No other candidate gets Bernie's respect from those he's worked with in the House, Senate and Mayoral office.
It will be interesting to see if Putin's suspected criminal behavior and increasing aggressiveness become issues in this foreign-policy debate. Clinton is the only one of the candidates of either party who understands the threat the Russian president poses, and she's the only one with even a clue as to how to deal with him. Putin will likely play a major role on the world stage in the next four years, something Sanders can't dodge as President. I can't help but think Sanders' lack of experience on foreign issues would make little more than a chew-toy to the Russian.
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I'm with you, Jim. She's the Barbara Stanwyck of Big Valley. I wouldn't cross her with a cruzafix if not cleared in hot to do so, senor.
Dear Sandernistas,
Why do you continue to support this establishment candidate? Bernie Sanders has been gorging himself at the public trough for decades and has accomplished virtually nothing for working-class Americans. He has also taken millions of dollars in campaign donations from people to whom he is now beholden. He is a Washington insider who will give you only more of the same.
It’s time for real change! That’s why I am urging you to write me in as your candidate in the upcoming primaries. I have never worked in government, so I am not part of the establishment, and I have never taken a penny in campaign donations, which means that I am not corrupt like Sanders. In fact, I am sure that I am poorer than Sanders, and will gladly disclose my tax returns to prove it, meaning that I am inherently more trustworthy than he is.
Moreover, I have lived in Canada for ten years, which means that I know about getting free stuff from the government, not like some fake, wannabe socialist. Let me deliver real socialism to you, not some prettied-up, capitalist version of gun-toting Vermont libertarianism. Unlike that Washington insider, I know how to get you all of the free health care, education and marijuana that you deserve. Heck, I’ll even throw in a free pony for every American. So vote for real change, and write me in on election day.
Don’t get Berned!
Why do you continue to support this establishment candidate? Bernie Sanders has been gorging himself at the public trough for decades and has accomplished virtually nothing for working-class Americans. He has also taken millions of dollars in campaign donations from people to whom he is now beholden. He is a Washington insider who will give you only more of the same.
It’s time for real change! That’s why I am urging you to write me in as your candidate in the upcoming primaries. I have never worked in government, so I am not part of the establishment, and I have never taken a penny in campaign donations, which means that I am not corrupt like Sanders. In fact, I am sure that I am poorer than Sanders, and will gladly disclose my tax returns to prove it, meaning that I am inherently more trustworthy than he is.
Moreover, I have lived in Canada for ten years, which means that I know about getting free stuff from the government, not like some fake, wannabe socialist. Let me deliver real socialism to you, not some prettied-up, capitalist version of gun-toting Vermont libertarianism. Unlike that Washington insider, I know how to get you all of the free health care, education and marijuana that you deserve. Heck, I’ll even throw in a free pony for every American. So vote for real change, and write me in on election day.
Don’t get Berned!
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While satire doesn't often work in the Times comments, I hand it to you.
That was great!
That was great!
I am a democrat and will vote for Hillary or Bernie - I am leaning towards Hillary, but I'm not convinced Bernie doesnt deserve my vote more, as he resonates more with everything for which I stand. I'm afraid that a vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump? What are Hillary and Bernie trying to accomplish in the debate? Do they want to persuade a potential Republican voter to vote for one of them? Is it someone like me who they want to convince deserves their vote? Hillary seems to be surrounded by so many smart friends and colleagues who will help her here and around the world. Can Bernie do that? I was on the fence back in 2008 and made my final decision in the voting booth to vote for Obama over Hillary and I'm so glad that I made that decision. I dont really want to know the negatives of what I'll get with a Bernie president or a Hillary president because I'm definitely voting for one of them and I know that's the right decision. Has anyone composed a list of positive and proactive list of what a Bernie vs. Hillary president would look like and how their decisions to help the people of the US and the world would play out? I dont want to know what they wouldnt do - I want to know what they would do - perhaps that would help me to decide if it's Bernie or Hillary who is getting my vote.
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If you do a comparative network analysis, Bernie is virtually unconnected compared to Hillary.
Why would a vote for Bernie be a vote for Trump? Bernie runs better against Trump than Clinton does. Bernie takes 53.3 percent versus Clinton's 49.1 percent. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential...
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And is that good or bad? It depends on to whom Clinton is connected.
I hope Hillary is asked to explain her multiple shell companies in Delaware and her neocon failures as Secretary of State. The choice of the next US president will impact the prosperity of Americans but whether a warmonger like Hillary is elected to the White House is a matter of life and death for many in other countries, as well as American soldiers.
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Please provide a list a of these alleged shell companies. Or are you just another insinuator?
Enough already. I personally can't bear to watch one more of these events. In fact, after months of debates and town halls and constant political reporting on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX we could watch this debate with sound turned off and know exactly what Bernie and Hillary are saying. By now, I believe, these events are more about filling air time and TV ratings and viewers not wanting to miss the possibility of some good old fashioned mudslinging, than policy or anything else. And candidates forced to constantly sell themselves like products on the Home Shopping Network undoubtedly find themselves feeling frustrated tattered and torn by this insane often demeaning process that goes on way too long.
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I'm all down with the French Model, but leave the Croix de Feu out of it! PU, that's some smelly fascism! Am I Rude, ask Coty! He's the one with the anti-immigrant veteran's organization.
Some New Yorkers still don't know who Bernie Sanders is or what he stands for.
You could say it's their fault, or you could say it's because all they've heard about is Trump / Clinton.
You could say it's their fault, or you could say it's because all they've heard about is Trump / Clinton.
We need to move to a direct vote, no primaries, with run offs. Elcetions should be publicly funded, no advertisements on tv, and equal coverage on television and media for all candidates. This mixture of televion/enterteinment/this mass rallies of Bernie's, like rock concerts are unnecessary and give us nothing. The televison anchors and commentators are mostly fluff, and it would be better if we heard them sometimes, and not all the time. There is so much static, I can not even think anymore. Enough! On the Democratic side, they are not that far apart, yet you would think they were. Bernie would bring chaos, trying to re do all on his ideology, and Hillary may be able to get more done. No matter who wins, we are on the road to getting to better places.
So what exactly is exciting about Secretary Clinton's message? How is she going to get her goals accomplished? Will the congress like her more than Sanders? She seems friendlier with Wall street and the banks than Sanders. Maybe they'll do more for the American people after they've helped her get elected. Sure wish I knew what she said to Goldman Sachs that was worth $650,000. I'd love for her to share it with me. It's obvious the Times supports her. Maybe the Times will move an enthusiastic progressive agenda forward. Maybe the Times will inspire young people to get involved at the grassroots level and keep voting for real change in this country. Oh wait, that's Bernie Sanders.
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Am I the only one wondering why Israel should matter?? -- Why?? Because Sanders is a Jew? Why should that be an issue? If anything, ISIS should be an issue.The recent terrorism in Europe should be an issue. Mr. Putin and his world-designs for Russia should be an issue. Mr. Xi and the South China Sea should be an issue. There's no lack of foreign issues. And the world is larger than the Middle-East.
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I'd like to hear what Hillary Clinton was thinking when she told the public, on more than one occasion, that she landed in Bosnia under sniper fire when no such thing occurred. How does someone "misspeak" or miss-remember an event like that? With her daughter Chelsea by her side during their landing in Bosnia, did it not occur to Ms. Clinton that her lying would put Chelsea in the position of having to back up her mother's lie? What kind of values is she teaching her daughter? Is that really the kind of person we want as our President? Did she get that story from the same place she got the story about the Reagans starting the national conversation on HIV/AIDS? Sadly, those are just the tip of the iceberg on Hillary Clinton problems with the truth.
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How can 'We' put this into terms which thou shalt relate ?!? Bernie use to be a Republican and the banks love the Rodham of your Clinton !?!
Bernie better take the gloves off and show her some real NY values. He wins on the issues, every time.
- No more war.
- Getting big money out of politics, Public funding of elections
- $15/hr minimum wage
- Carbon tax and a BAN on FRACKING
- EXPANSION of Social Security
- Breaking up the Big Banks
- 21st century Glass-Steagall Act
- Speculative tax on Wall St financial transactions
- Tuition free public colleges and universities
- End mandatory minimum sentencing
- Legalise marijuana
- Single Payer Health Care (yes!!!!!!!!!!)
- Common sense gun reforms
- Ending corporate welfare
- $1 trillion over 5 years for infrastructure
- Highest approval rating of all 100 US Senators!
- Received 86% of the vote in the state that knows him best!
- Regularly gets 25% of the Republican vote
- Most favorable Presidential candidate of them all!
- Beats Trump more than Hillary in every poll!
Get the popcorn ready!
- No more war.
- Getting big money out of politics, Public funding of elections
- $15/hr minimum wage
- Carbon tax and a BAN on FRACKING
- EXPANSION of Social Security
- Breaking up the Big Banks
- 21st century Glass-Steagall Act
- Speculative tax on Wall St financial transactions
- Tuition free public colleges and universities
- End mandatory minimum sentencing
- Legalise marijuana
- Single Payer Health Care (yes!!!!!!!!!!)
- Common sense gun reforms
- Ending corporate welfare
- $1 trillion over 5 years for infrastructure
- Highest approval rating of all 100 US Senators!
- Received 86% of the vote in the state that knows him best!
- Regularly gets 25% of the Republican vote
- Most favorable Presidential candidate of them all!
- Beats Trump more than Hillary in every poll!
Get the popcorn ready!
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Ha!!ha! -- Another one who thinks Bernie Sanders is a New Yorker.
Guess what?
He's a resident of VERMONT and their Senator too! Get real.
Guess what?
He's a resident of VERMONT and their Senator too! Get real.
one! I am starting to sympathize for the millionaires and billionaires- and I don't even like them. but they are a step above sanders groupies.
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Edit: meant to say "some of the sanders groupies" not most who are supporters.
What kind of strategy is that?
The candidate cannot even find city parks big enough for his supporters.
Hillary doesn't have that problem.
She would never have that problem.
Vote for the authentic Neocon/Neocolonialist & heart-throb of this august publication.
On Hillary's fine works in Honduras; acts she insists were legal, even though the US was the only country in the Western Hemisphere to back the coup until PM Harper joined Hillary a few months later :
https://www.thenation.com/article/how-hillary-clinton-militarized-us-pol...
Naomi Klein on HRC & Climate Change
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-problem-with-hillary-clinton-isnt-...
The candidate cannot even find city parks big enough for his supporters.
Hillary doesn't have that problem.
She would never have that problem.
Vote for the authentic Neocon/Neocolonialist & heart-throb of this august publication.
On Hillary's fine works in Honduras; acts she insists were legal, even though the US was the only country in the Western Hemisphere to back the coup until PM Harper joined Hillary a few months later :
https://www.thenation.com/article/how-hillary-clinton-militarized-us-pol...
Naomi Klein on HRC & Climate Change
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-problem-with-hillary-clinton-isnt-...
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If the debates were to turn up something new--some new position or issue, I might be persuaded of this evening's necessity. But I fear that Sanders will simply hit the same scolding themes and Clinton will give the same replies. This is not the way to discover the candidates' positions.
Clinton has laid out a very comprehensive set of papers on her positions. Sanders has few specifics (OK, want to break up the big banks? What's your plan and what will the disruptions be?) Failing that, I look at this as the Bernie pointing finger show. It's gotten old.
Clinton has laid out a very comprehensive set of papers on her positions. Sanders has few specifics (OK, want to break up the big banks? What's your plan and what will the disruptions be?) Failing that, I look at this as the Bernie pointing finger show. It's gotten old.
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Sanders will continue to beat his dead horse of the need to dismantle our financial structure and distribute the wealth to the Lumpen Proles. That may fly among the young and old socialists but not the American electorate. We know no bounds when it comes to conspicuous consumption. We are the masters of commercialism. We are not Denmark or any other European country. Never have been, never going to be.
Where exactly are these comprehensive set of papers on her positions? They certainly are not on her website.
Sanders has lots of specifics at feelthebern.org
But you'd have to click your mouse and do some reading to find out. That sounds like a little too much work for most of Hillary's crowd.
But you'd have to click your mouse and do some reading to find out. That sounds like a little too much work for most of Hillary's crowd.
Although this campaign has been somewhat distorted by histrionics and distractions, there really is a noteworthy new cleavage at the core of both parties over the issue of economic regulation and individual liberties.
The mass population is registering a rejection of the loss of individual economic liberty in consequence of the expansion of corporate economic liberty, and the contraction of all individual liberties as a result of the two political parties' generation-long skepticism of government regulation.
The tenor of the debate may be execrable, but the US is in reality revisiting a fundamental question of economic regulation not talked about since TR and FDR. Clinton's task is to credibly depart from precedent, but the onus of explaining how -- which she tries to shift to Sanders -- actually is totally upon her.
The mass population is registering a rejection of the loss of individual economic liberty in consequence of the expansion of corporate economic liberty, and the contraction of all individual liberties as a result of the two political parties' generation-long skepticism of government regulation.
The tenor of the debate may be execrable, but the US is in reality revisiting a fundamental question of economic regulation not talked about since TR and FDR. Clinton's task is to credibly depart from precedent, but the onus of explaining how -- which she tries to shift to Sanders -- actually is totally upon her.
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Mrs. Clinton (how many feminist go by "Mrs"?) should not win the presidency. She has no vision for the country, only one of herself as an historical person. She has no "there" there.
I believe she is easily led by men and wants male approval. She has little true self-esteem, hiding behind policy details unnecessary to answer the question to appear smart.
First, her having been flattered that Kissinger, of all people, approved of her handling of State and was her mentor. He belongs in jail for crimes against humanity, so put her admiration of him in the Poor Judgment column.
She plays the female victim and has Bill or take her part. She can't do anything without Bill or a bevy of advisors.
She has David Brock, the GOP hitman, sliming Bernie for her. If she had a winning, passionate commitment to anything other herself, she wouldn't need him.
She has to prove she is "tough" and can "fight". When did Elizabeth Warren ever say such things? Try never. She just does it! She doesn't have to talk about it because her actions say it all.
Hillary literally walks backwards when confronted about things she finds uncomfortable. She wants us to believe she can "fight" for us when she can't even defend her own decisions.
She becomes defensive, circles the wagons, and digs in her heels when her poor judgments become public. Taking responsibility is the last thing she will do and only when all else fails.
She is weak and not fit to be president. It will be Bill's third term.
I believe she is easily led by men and wants male approval. She has little true self-esteem, hiding behind policy details unnecessary to answer the question to appear smart.
First, her having been flattered that Kissinger, of all people, approved of her handling of State and was her mentor. He belongs in jail for crimes against humanity, so put her admiration of him in the Poor Judgment column.
She plays the female victim and has Bill or take her part. She can't do anything without Bill or a bevy of advisors.
She has David Brock, the GOP hitman, sliming Bernie for her. If she had a winning, passionate commitment to anything other herself, she wouldn't need him.
She has to prove she is "tough" and can "fight". When did Elizabeth Warren ever say such things? Try never. She just does it! She doesn't have to talk about it because her actions say it all.
Hillary literally walks backwards when confronted about things she finds uncomfortable. She wants us to believe she can "fight" for us when she can't even defend her own decisions.
She becomes defensive, circles the wagons, and digs in her heels when her poor judgments become public. Taking responsibility is the last thing she will do and only when all else fails.
She is weak and not fit to be president. It will be Bill's third term.
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Just like Obama wanted to be the First African American President so too, HRC wants to be the First Female POTUS without thinking about anyone but themselves, like two peas in a pod.
Very rough, very articulate comment. Thank you. 04-14-16 @ 10:15am
With all these 'so-called' faults you've mentioned, how is it she has performed as well as she has, has the support of tens and tens of millions of people and is about to to be nominated by the Democratic Party of the United States to run for President.?
There's something you're not getting here.
There's something you're not getting here.
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Doubtless GOP strategists are licking their chops in hopes that the democratic presidential nominee will be Sanders, a candidate in his 70s, a self declared socialist and soon to be labelled a fervent communist (a lethal dog whistle for sure). He will be pummelled by Trump mercilessly. At least Clinton knows well how to fight such aggressive no holds barred right wing attacks. Sanders will be a sitting duck unfortunately, and his bid is likely to fail given a fickle low information electorate that put a bunch of gleeful stalwart GOP obstructionists in power not once but twice since 2010.
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And HRC is 68 so what, she's already been ill and taken to the hospital while she was SoS, some kind of dizzy spell or something I recollect.
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The RNC has been mounting a concerted effort here in NYC to get Dems to abandon Hillary for the socialist Sanders. They would love nothing better than for Dems to have Sanders to run against. In the Deep South and Ruby Red states the notion of a socialist, read: communist/atheist, running has them licking their chops. Trump or Cruz or Kasich would clobber the Green Party darling from the Green Mountain state.
Fortunately, most of the folks gathered at Sanders rally in Washington Square last night are not eligible to vote. They didn't know they had to be registered since last election as a Dem, Duh? Typical of folks who climb on a trendy political bandwagon as the last minute. So typical, so naive.
DD
Manhattan
Fortunately, most of the folks gathered at Sanders rally in Washington Square last night are not eligible to vote. They didn't know they had to be registered since last election as a Dem, Duh? Typical of folks who climb on a trendy political bandwagon as the last minute. So typical, so naive.
DD
Manhattan
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The GOP will be spending more time & effort licking their wounds after they have their contested convention than their chops & salivating for a Sanders victory.
When you look at the FDR legacy and the Reagan legacy and which worked better for the country there is no comparison. The FDR legacy that Reagan abandoned with his trickle down voodoo economics is a proven failure. How Reagan mesmerized and continues to do so to adult people who look on the catastrophe his system of economics has spawned is amusing and quite unbelievable. The youth looks at what the Reagan Democrats have left them and are running away from it and to the FDR style politician. The youth of Reagan's day who bought the poison the homespun grandfatherly figure sold them looks around at the failure and clings to the bitter end the disastrous legacy of St. Ronnie. The able Mrs. Clinton offers a degree of change which will not be granted by a party that hates her more than they hate Obama. Bernie Sanders has organized and energized the youth, the ones who can maintain the pressure on elected politicians which is part of the revolution, "which will not be televised" (to quote a phrase), to get his FDR style agenda through. Spread the money around and the economy roars, just ask Krugman.
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You know that Krugman endorsed Hillary and slammed Bernie for the unworkability of his platform, right?
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I do know that, but my point was not about that it was about how Krugman believes in Keynesian economics.
One nice question would be when exactly Bernie is going to release his financial records, including 8 years of tax records, so we can all make sure he isn't just ranting against the banks and fossil fuel companies while holding investments in them. Or the value of his Vermont and Washington DC homes. We wouldn't want just another multi-millionaire leading the revolution, would we?
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Well, we haven't waited as long for Bernie's financial records as we've waited for Hillary's paid speech transcripts. When are those coming? We've been waiting a really long time. The NYT call for her to do this was on Feb. 26.
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The Clintons have released their entire returns back to the early 1990s. According to MSNBC, the Sanders have release one year's 1040....and only the 2-page 1040.
I'd like to hear Bernie, Mr. Man of the People, explain why.
I'd like to hear Bernie, Mr. Man of the People, explain why.
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The Clintons started releasing their tax returns back in the 90's, so they are about 25 years ahead of Bernie. So, if Clinton releases these speech transcripts in 2031, she will be just as prompt as Bernie (assuming Bernie finally gets around to finding an internet connection somewhere in New York State or one of those other oh so poorly served by the internet states they are campaigning in so his wife can download all their returns from TurboTax)
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Yes, maybe Hillary Clinton and Sanders can "break out" of the mode of being two intelligent people talking about issues and acting like adults running for the most important office in the land and can resort to name-calling, comparing hand size, and in general conducting the food fight of non-issues that the GOP debates have been.
Seriously no one with a brain depends on the so-called "debates" that are conducted as entertainment by television. People who are really interested in politics and learning about the candidates review their records on various issues, read the position papers they've presented, read interviews that they've done and possibly even read their books to have an understanding of what they think.
Seriously no one with a brain depends on the so-called "debates" that are conducted as entertainment by television. People who are really interested in politics and learning about the candidates review their records on various issues, read the position papers they've presented, read interviews that they've done and possibly even read their books to have an understanding of what they think.
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Senator Sanders has been consistent in his call for the break-up of “Too Big to Fail” banks and the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall banking legislation that proved itself effective to prevent the excesses of Wall Street greed and avarice by separating commercial and investment banking for nearly seven decades. In response, Hillary Clinton has been consistent in her opinion that the Dodd-Frank legislation is adequate to meet any and all banking problems.
However, this week, the failure of five large banks to pass a test under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law was reported by the NYTimes: “The Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said on Wednesday that five of the nation’s eight largest banks — including JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America — did not have “credible” plans for how they would wind themselves down in a crisis without sowing panic.”
In an ad running in New York, Mr. Sanders portrays Mrs. Clinton as too cozy with Wall Street. And, Clinton continues to “stonewall” on calls by both Sanders and the NYTimes (Feb. 26 editorial) to release the transcripts of speeches she made to Wall Street banks and other major corporate interests in 2014 and the first quarter of 2015 in exchange for $11 million added to her personal wealth.
However, this week, the failure of five large banks to pass a test under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law was reported by the NYTimes: “The Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said on Wednesday that five of the nation’s eight largest banks — including JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America — did not have “credible” plans for how they would wind themselves down in a crisis without sowing panic.”
In an ad running in New York, Mr. Sanders portrays Mrs. Clinton as too cozy with Wall Street. And, Clinton continues to “stonewall” on calls by both Sanders and the NYTimes (Feb. 26 editorial) to release the transcripts of speeches she made to Wall Street banks and other major corporate interests in 2014 and the first quarter of 2015 in exchange for $11 million added to her personal wealth.
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It is time for Sanders 15 minutes to be over. His sour, poisonous anger and personal attacks only emphasize his lack of knowledge, lack of experience and lack of strength to lead America in a dangerous world.
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How is advocating for single-payer health care a "sour, poisonous personal attack"?
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True Sioban. If calling for, and working to try to achieve, single payer medicare is make one a "sour, poisonous" person, then i guess that would explain why so many people dislike Clinton, since she started advocating and using whatever power she had as first lady to try to accomplish that back in the early nineties.
Isn't it sad when people can't appreciate when somebody has put an valiant effort into achieving something, but only want to find scurrilous, unproven rumours to try to claim they are unqualified for a job?
Isn't it sad when people can't appreciate when somebody has put an valiant effort into achieving something, but only want to find scurrilous, unproven rumours to try to claim they are unqualified for a job?
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At some point Bernie Sanders must expand upon his conviction that the Banks must be downsized, and why. That the Money Banks are even more systemically important today than they were in 2008 is a fact known to everyone. That all of them live or die by their ability to roll over eighty or so billion dollars a day in overnight borrowing to collateralize their daily book is not known to most citizens, and neither is it known that FDIC institutions are as a result, now Shadow Banks in full.
The implications of this fact should be terrifying, when one is reminded that the partners in the banks are no longer held responsible for the solvency of their banks, and it is now the taxpayer who will be called upon again to guarantee, not just liquidity, but the capital credit of the Mega Banks. These wages of lax regulation are one reason why bankers were once called Banksters by Ferdinand Pecora, whose commission post the 1929 Crash prosecuted the Banksters, a proceeding out of which came the Glass Steagall Act, which gave us seventy years of Financial Stability, until the Democrat Bill Clinton gored the New Deal by signing the repeal of the Depression Era banking regulation into Law, and fell into in line with the will of Wall Street by signing the Enron Loophole into Law as his last act.
Correct! The dirty little secret of the Democrats is that it was a Democrat who destroyed FDR's New Deal. I don't expect HRC will mention it, but will Bern have the guts to open up?
The implications of this fact should be terrifying, when one is reminded that the partners in the banks are no longer held responsible for the solvency of their banks, and it is now the taxpayer who will be called upon again to guarantee, not just liquidity, but the capital credit of the Mega Banks. These wages of lax regulation are one reason why bankers were once called Banksters by Ferdinand Pecora, whose commission post the 1929 Crash prosecuted the Banksters, a proceeding out of which came the Glass Steagall Act, which gave us seventy years of Financial Stability, until the Democrat Bill Clinton gored the New Deal by signing the repeal of the Depression Era banking regulation into Law, and fell into in line with the will of Wall Street by signing the Enron Loophole into Law as his last act.
Correct! The dirty little secret of the Democrats is that it was a Democrat who destroyed FDR's New Deal. I don't expect HRC will mention it, but will Bern have the guts to open up?
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How many times have we read that Clinton needs to excite her voters? Sorry NYT, but she's been in politics for decades, worked in Bill's campaigns and her own. If she doesn't know how to excite voters by now, it just might not happen.
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She needs to find her inner Violet, speaking Downtonian; the thought of her exciting anyone makes me cringe and I'm just a few tears behind her. Maybe she and bill make a good couple at court, but just leave the expertease out of it.
But she is looking fabulous latel;, I bet she let Spratt change her hat.
But she is looking fabulous latel;, I bet she let Spratt change her hat.
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Don't let the MSM tell you what you need to know, voters.
What more do you need than the latest report about the major too-big-to-fail Wall Street banks (turns out we would still have to bail them out):
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/business/dealbook/living-wills-of-5-ba...
The leak of Panama offshore accounts:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/series/panama-papers
The sending of 1,400 manufacturing jobs in Indiana to Mexico:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/f-k-workers-react-news-1-400-jo...
The worst mistake, according to Obama, of his presidency (guess who was Secretary of State?):
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/barack-obama-says-libya-w...
Bottom line, Bernie 2016
What more do you need than the latest report about the major too-big-to-fail Wall Street banks (turns out we would still have to bail them out):
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/business/dealbook/living-wills-of-5-ba...
The leak of Panama offshore accounts:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/series/panama-papers
The sending of 1,400 manufacturing jobs in Indiana to Mexico:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/f-k-workers-react-news-1-400-jo...
The worst mistake, according to Obama, of his presidency (guess who was Secretary of State?):
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/barack-obama-says-libya-w...
Bottom line, Bernie 2016
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So, the government is continuing to crack down on big banks.
There is no US involvement in the Panama off shore accounts, a true dog-bites-man story in terms of revelations.
Hillary did not vote for Nafta; voted against Cafta and does not support the FINAL version of TPP.
As for Libya, what was the cost TO US for Obama's mistake there? Be specific.
Facts indicate there is no real need for a Sanders protest candidacy.
There is no US involvement in the Panama off shore accounts, a true dog-bites-man story in terms of revelations.
Hillary did not vote for Nafta; voted against Cafta and does not support the FINAL version of TPP.
As for Libya, what was the cost TO US for Obama's mistake there? Be specific.
Facts indicate there is no real need for a Sanders protest candidacy.
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Don't let the "MSM" tell you what you need to know? Then all of your example links are to "MSM"? That's kind of funny.
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Hmmm. The US joined the French and the UK demanded actions in Libya based on the Senate Resolution S.RES.85, which condemned what was going on in Libya, urging the UN to impose a no fly zone over Libya, which was eventually created by UN Security Council Resolution 173.
S.RES.85 was passed unanimously in the senate. The resolution was sponsored by Senator Robert Menedez (D-NJ), but interestingly, of the 10 co-cponsors, one was Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT).
So, V, although Obama didn't say what you claim he did (he was talking bout not having a plan for after they got rid of Gadaffi), it seems one of the war mongers who wanted to see something done with Gadaffi was your own pacifist hero.
And the BernieBros and the GOP want to blame Libya in Hillary?
So, if I can do that in 10 minutes sitting at my kitchen counter, just think what the GOP with $ hundreds of millions have been able to amass on your boy. Are all the BernieBros going to lose their faith in their messiah when things like this start coming out day after day after day? What about the general electorate and all those independents that have been genuflecting to Bernie?
Hillary has no skeletons that haven't been examined from every side and found insufficient to bury her, but Bernie hasn't even been tested yet. But the BernieBros think the GOP is going to shred Hillary!?!
S.RES.85 was passed unanimously in the senate. The resolution was sponsored by Senator Robert Menedez (D-NJ), but interestingly, of the 10 co-cponsors, one was Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT).
So, V, although Obama didn't say what you claim he did (he was talking bout not having a plan for after they got rid of Gadaffi), it seems one of the war mongers who wanted to see something done with Gadaffi was your own pacifist hero.
And the BernieBros and the GOP want to blame Libya in Hillary?
So, if I can do that in 10 minutes sitting at my kitchen counter, just think what the GOP with $ hundreds of millions have been able to amass on your boy. Are all the BernieBros going to lose their faith in their messiah when things like this start coming out day after day after day? What about the general electorate and all those independents that have been genuflecting to Bernie?
Hillary has no skeletons that haven't been examined from every side and found insufficient to bury her, but Bernie hasn't even been tested yet. But the BernieBros think the GOP is going to shred Hillary!?!
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As a lifelong "registered" Democrat for more than a half century I am astounded to read comments from New Yorkers who don't have a clue how their state and the two major political parties conduct their primaries. It proves to me, a member of the DNC, how ignorant our populace is to the mechanics of politics.
We are talking about parties which go back centuries. Not much has changed since Lincoln was nominated on the third ballot. What is the difference now? I guess it stems from the novelty of Trump and Sanders. They have brought out usually apathetic, ignorant citizens who never get involved in politics but who all of a sudden are simply mystified on how the process operates.
We who have been involved for decades find it amusing that so many know so little about Civics. Here we have readers of the NYTimes for God's sake and they write comments that seem incredulous to we who have been politically active for decades. No wonder we have the government we do. When supposedly sophisticated New Yorkers can be so oblivious it is embarrassing. New Yorkers love making fun of yokels and yahoos in flyover country about their lack of knowledge about things they deem important like fashion and trend setting. Well, look at yourselves, New York. You look like a bunch of bumpkins getting off the turnip truck in Midtown. Completely clueless to the political process, hee-hawing and hemming and hawing your through a political morass. Pathetic.
DD
Manhattan
We are talking about parties which go back centuries. Not much has changed since Lincoln was nominated on the third ballot. What is the difference now? I guess it stems from the novelty of Trump and Sanders. They have brought out usually apathetic, ignorant citizens who never get involved in politics but who all of a sudden are simply mystified on how the process operates.
We who have been involved for decades find it amusing that so many know so little about Civics. Here we have readers of the NYTimes for God's sake and they write comments that seem incredulous to we who have been politically active for decades. No wonder we have the government we do. When supposedly sophisticated New Yorkers can be so oblivious it is embarrassing. New Yorkers love making fun of yokels and yahoos in flyover country about their lack of knowledge about things they deem important like fashion and trend setting. Well, look at yourselves, New York. You look like a bunch of bumpkins getting off the turnip truck in Midtown. Completely clueless to the political process, hee-hawing and hemming and hawing your through a political morass. Pathetic.
DD
Manhattan
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Such a relief to begin the day reading about real issues instead of the latest Republican middle school food fight.
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You ask, "Can Sanders fight outside his comfort zone?" .... in other words, not 'on his own terms'. And then ask, " Can Clinton fight on her own terms?".... in other words, 'outside her comfort zone'. Your double-standards simply will not cease.
I'm hoping both candidates, especially Hillary, do some imprompto thinking tonight. But with CNN and Wolf Blitzer at the helm, I'm not holding my breath.
I'm hoping both candidates, especially Hillary, do some imprompto thinking tonight. But with CNN and Wolf Blitzer at the helm, I'm not holding my breath.
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Beyond that, Hillary has often evaded and even struggled with thorny questions regarding her personal email server located in the basement of her Chappaqua house.
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GOP talking points anybody?
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I am so disgusted by the Sanders campaign that I feel strongly that should he win the nomination I cannot vote for him. I would never vote for the Republicans, so that means I won't be voting. My friends - Hilary supporters - are horrified by that stance. But I believe Sanders is in danger of becoming a demagogue, he seems slightly unhinged, he is certainly not informed enough; the sight of screaming people at huge rallies terrifies me. Someone who calls his father a Polish immigrant from Eastern Europe, not a Polish Jew, is someone I could never trust. At least Trump and Cruz are upfront about who they are; Sanders is the holier than thou lefty I can't stand. I'm praying Hilary, battered and bruised, will stagger through to the nomination.
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You must have little hope. Because a vote for Hillary is a vote for the death of hope.
Who cares if he says Polish immigrant versus Polish Jew? Really, aren't we all entitled to describe ourselves as we see fit?
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At least please vote the down ballot Democrats. I respect your frustration but do not be like Sanders supports in Wisconsin who, by a 4-1 margin versus Hillary voters, did not vote their down ballot candidates, only for Sanders.
This resulted in the almost certain loss by a progressive state supreme court judge to a right wing Walker appointee.
This resulted in the almost certain loss by a progressive state supreme court judge to a right wing Walker appointee.
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The Sanders voters have no understanding of history. The deems went with 5 major presidential losses with his kind. 5. Then his voters do not show up in off years and they let the GOP take over congress thwarting any agenda-just ask Obama. I'm not willing to take that chance again and lose even bigger along with the supreme court. Sanders does not support nor contribute to the democratic party and has the endorsement of one senator and one rep. He would lose the general big time without a framework of congress. Obama got very little accomplished. Think what the GOP would do to a socialist? End of story.
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Think what the GOP would do to Hillary Clinton? End of story.
What use is, "Winning," the presidency if the victory isn't even a compromise to the middle, but a complete adoption of the conservative ideology? Why bother with Democratic and Republican parties in that case? People in this country have let the GOP own political vocabulary for far too long. Let's start with the socialism in Social Security, and see if they are for getting rid of that. Then maybe the socialism of maintaining the physical infrastructure of our country, educating our children, and providing adequate healthcare for anyone who needs it-- OK, you've got me on those ones. Does that mean we should just throw in the towel? Hope not.
Bernie in the USSR. Bernie in Cuba. Bernie in Nicaragua supporting the Sandinistas.
Think what the GOP will do with Bernie. End of story.
The GOP has been trying to destroy Clinton for decades, but soft headed people keep repeating their talking points years after the GOP was unable to make any of their accusations stick in any legal body qualified to judge. And it appears those soft headed people are not only Republicans.
Think what the GOP will do with Bernie. End of story.
The GOP has been trying to destroy Clinton for decades, but soft headed people keep repeating their talking points years after the GOP was unable to make any of their accusations stick in any legal body qualified to judge. And it appears those soft headed people are not only Republicans.
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I'm still proud to have cast my absentee primary ballot for Bernie Sanders, but his attack on Clinton's "judgement" dismayed me. While not *exactly* an ad hominem attack, it comes too close. I would much rather that he stick to details of his policy aspirations, especially how they will be funded -- in fact, why they MUST be funded by dismantling excessive military spending and curtailing corporate welfare and tax dodges.
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Your absentee ballot is not counted unless there is close count at the end of the day. That's not going to happen. But thanks for caring anyway.
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Mrs. Clinton has received tens of millions in bribes (ie. "speaking fees") from Big Banks. She has been compromised, and Mr. Sanders said so. Nothing personal to her, just a fact that she can no longer be trusted to have the American People's interests at heart.
Sanders' remarks on Clinton's judgment came in response to her efforts to paint Sanders as uninformed about Dodd-Frank and therefore unqualified for the presidency. Clinton made herself fair game by her remarks.
BTW: many prominent economists have pointed out that Dodd-Frank's bank breakup requirements are ambiguous. Therefore, Sanders was correct to tell the Daily News that he would rely on Dodd-Frank if sufficient or propose new breakup legislation if needed.
BTW: many prominent economists have pointed out that Dodd-Frank's bank breakup requirements are ambiguous. Therefore, Sanders was correct to tell the Daily News that he would rely on Dodd-Frank if sufficient or propose new breakup legislation if needed.
What should have been a slam dunk is now a dog fight.
Assuming that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the rest of the Democratic Party establishment get their Clinton nomination what will they say if HRC is not up to the task of beating the Donald or Cruz?
Oops our bad, we're sorry?
A Sanders candidacy not only secures the White House but means at least the Senate and maybe the House.
Instead it time for the same old bull hockey that is the Clintonite Democratic Party, old, stall, and needs a clue. But she's a woman and I guess that's all that matters?
Oh I forgot the former Goldwater Girl is now the Goldman Sachs woman, how foolish of me.
Assuming that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the rest of the Democratic Party establishment get their Clinton nomination what will they say if HRC is not up to the task of beating the Donald or Cruz?
Oops our bad, we're sorry?
A Sanders candidacy not only secures the White House but means at least the Senate and maybe the House.
Instead it time for the same old bull hockey that is the Clintonite Democratic Party, old, stall, and needs a clue. But she's a woman and I guess that's all that matters?
Oh I forgot the former Goldwater Girl is now the Goldman Sachs woman, how foolish of me.
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DW-S has no credibility whatsoever, she worked for Bill, guess where her allegiance is? Just like the Clinton's always working the system to their advantage and allowed to get away with it for 30 + years.
Bernie Sanders would win New York if Independents were allowed to vote in the primary.
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Make a commitment, make your choice.
4
Why should independents have a right to vote in the democratic primary? I am a life-long democrat and that has supported and fought for liberals values for decades. Why does a person, who has not furthered the democratic agenda, get to vote in our primary?
6
But they're not. And you must have registered last year as a Democrat to vote in the primary. Too many Leap Year citizens come to the party at the last minute just as Sanders has and expect a warm welcome while he has for forty years done nothing to further the aims and goals of the DNC.
Sorry, Senator Sanders and his supporters. Too little too late. Next time start four years earlier if you hope to gain the all-important super delegates you grouse so much about, as Hillary did eight years ago, if you expect us to support you in the future. Of course in four years Sanders will be almost Eighty. Once again, too little too late.
DD
Manhattan
Sorry, Senator Sanders and his supporters. Too little too late. Next time start four years earlier if you hope to gain the all-important super delegates you grouse so much about, as Hillary did eight years ago, if you expect us to support you in the future. Of course in four years Sanders will be almost Eighty. Once again, too little too late.
DD
Manhattan
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I really struggle to understand why the average man or woman would vote for anyone other than Sanders. The plutocrats have been increasing their control over our world for thirty years and the results have led to painful circumstances for too many as well as environmental degradation. HC has been willing to participate in that...Bernie has fought against it all the while. End of story!
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If you study present day Russia, there are those who fear change enough to take abuse they don't deserve just for sticking with a loser. You find it in a fifth of the average American family across the social horde, too. Just won't quit accepting it. Need help to change, some of us.
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Sanders is pie in the sky just like FDR.
Last night I watched excerpts of Mrs. Clinton’s speech to Al Sharpton’s group. Her pandering was borderline obscene plus she endorsed almost every idea that Al Sharpton has floated. It is unfortunate she did not use the occasion to ask him to pay his back taxes or call him out on his more extreme positions, she lost my vote.
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I seriously want to say to all candidates shouting down to their audiences, this is not necessary in the 21st Century. We need people who can lift their voices, not shred them and their listeners' ears to ribbons. If you can't trust a good mic and amplifier to give you the rope to do a few tricks with pitch and tone, then go HOME!
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Will there be no concern with climate change, in this city on the water?
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It's over as far as I'm concerned. They may as well argue why their competitor will make a great VP for their cause.
I'm perfectly happy for Bernie to play the role of cranky neighbor with a conscience who NEVER stops reminding Hillery why he let her win. To grind her face into Putin's. Now there's the Punch and Judy Show I would pay to cover.
I'm perfectly happy for Bernie to play the role of cranky neighbor with a conscience who NEVER stops reminding Hillery why he let her win. To grind her face into Putin's. Now there's the Punch and Judy Show I would pay to cover.
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Neither will advance their cause if they allow their emotions to prevail and get nasty. The past month has been a doozy in terms of turning a highly civil campaign into a mud-fest.
I hope both candidates can clearly and civilly stick to the issues. Sanders needs to remove the character assassination tone out of every policy point he makes in outlining difference between him and Clinton. He is not running to be Moses or Jesus, and his overly moralistic attacks are off-putting. because his messages are important and shouldn't be ruined by testiness.
Clinton needs to stick to facts and not get so reactive she throws out inaccurate statistics. She needs to clearly state her case as to why building on the Obama legacy is more viable than revolution. She also needs to candidly explain the circumstances of her past policy votes as senator. When a question is difficult, she shouldn't get defensive, but take it with toughness.
If they can both do this, it will be a great debate. But if they get down into the mud and don't show tonal contrasts with the mud-slinging GOP, it will harm their prospects as well as the prospects for Democrats in November.
I hope both candidates can clearly and civilly stick to the issues. Sanders needs to remove the character assassination tone out of every policy point he makes in outlining difference between him and Clinton. He is not running to be Moses or Jesus, and his overly moralistic attacks are off-putting. because his messages are important and shouldn't be ruined by testiness.
Clinton needs to stick to facts and not get so reactive she throws out inaccurate statistics. She needs to clearly state her case as to why building on the Obama legacy is more viable than revolution. She also needs to candidly explain the circumstances of her past policy votes as senator. When a question is difficult, she shouldn't get defensive, but take it with toughness.
If they can both do this, it will be a great debate. But if they get down into the mud and don't show tonal contrasts with the mud-slinging GOP, it will harm their prospects as well as the prospects for Democrats in November.
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Don't believe for a second that Hillary will build on Obama's legacy. She is using Obama to get to the Black voters. It is a well known fact they cannot stand each other.
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"She also needs to candidly explain...".
Yes, she does. Few of us are sanguine about the probability of that EVER happening.
Yes, she does. Few of us are sanguine about the probability of that EVER happening.
Hillary is always working hard every day for average Americans; I can just FEEL it in her bones.
0.1% 'Donor' 2013 Speech Fee
Samsung $450,000
Amway $700,000
AT&T $200,000
Richmond Forum $220,000
Leaders and Co. Ltd. $725,000
Health Information and Management Systems $200,000
Latham & Watkins $150,000
Cisco $225,000
World Travel & Tourism Council $500,000
Kotak Mahindra Bank $500,000
Temple Sinai of Roslyn $125,000
Oracle Corp. $300,000
Virginia Cardiovascular Assoc. $100,000
Zurich Financial Services $285,000
Heart Rhythm Society $200,000
UBS Wealth Management $175,000
Handelsbanken Capital Markets $750,000
Handelsbanken " (again) $100,000
Media Control Gmbh $300,000
Marriott Int'l $225,000
CGI Group $225,000
Goldman Sachs $200,000
California Association of Physician Groups $275,000
Univision $275,000
Jamestown LP $500,000
Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd $225,000
ACG Los Angeles Chapter $300,000
Omega Institute $225,000
Canadian Council of Chief Executives $175,000
European Petrochemical Association $350,000
National Community Pharmacists $260,000
Swiss Re $250,000
American Dental Assoc. $300,000
Young Presidents' Org. $230,000
JP Morgan $300,000
Securities Industry and Financial Markets Assoc. $250,000
Global Alliance $500,000
SEEC Media Group $500,000
SAP Global $700,000
Standard Life Investments $450,000
NSS Labs $250,000
Total just for 2013 was $13,170,000
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/tax-returns/
Feel The Bern
0.1% 'Donor' 2013 Speech Fee
Samsung $450,000
Amway $700,000
AT&T $200,000
Richmond Forum $220,000
Leaders and Co. Ltd. $725,000
Health Information and Management Systems $200,000
Latham & Watkins $150,000
Cisco $225,000
World Travel & Tourism Council $500,000
Kotak Mahindra Bank $500,000
Temple Sinai of Roslyn $125,000
Oracle Corp. $300,000
Virginia Cardiovascular Assoc. $100,000
Zurich Financial Services $285,000
Heart Rhythm Society $200,000
UBS Wealth Management $175,000
Handelsbanken Capital Markets $750,000
Handelsbanken " (again) $100,000
Media Control Gmbh $300,000
Marriott Int'l $225,000
CGI Group $225,000
Goldman Sachs $200,000
California Association of Physician Groups $275,000
Univision $275,000
Jamestown LP $500,000
Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd $225,000
ACG Los Angeles Chapter $300,000
Omega Institute $225,000
Canadian Council of Chief Executives $175,000
European Petrochemical Association $350,000
National Community Pharmacists $260,000
Swiss Re $250,000
American Dental Assoc. $300,000
Young Presidents' Org. $230,000
JP Morgan $300,000
Securities Industry and Financial Markets Assoc. $250,000
Global Alliance $500,000
SEEC Media Group $500,000
SAP Global $700,000
Standard Life Investments $450,000
NSS Labs $250,000
Total just for 2013 was $13,170,000
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/tax-returns/
Feel The Bern
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Well, she certainly gets around like a circulating coin. Think how much bigger her fees will be after her presidency. Now, that's worth working for.
Hillary cannot fix the problem; Hillary IS the problem.
Hillary cannot fix the problem; Hillary IS the problem.
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You gotta ask yourself what she has to sell for that kind of cash. I read the Citigroup StinkTank circular and what else can they say but better stash more cash away, Cary? Can I get a Grant?
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Well Socrates, you've shown you can research and add. Do you have the right to earn a living? Would you build on your strengths to maximize earnings? Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong. What exactly has Bernie accomplished that's right?
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The Democratic party is divided.
One part thinks the country needs to have an overhaul on a large scale. It believes such changes are possible. It thinks money controls much of the political process, and wants that recognized and changed.
That part largely supports Sanders.
The other part thinks we're on the right track, we just need to do more of the same on a bigger scale.
That group largely supports Clinton.
The question is how to get one group to listen to, let alone support the other.
One part thinks the country needs to have an overhaul on a large scale. It believes such changes are possible. It thinks money controls much of the political process, and wants that recognized and changed.
That part largely supports Sanders.
The other part thinks we're on the right track, we just need to do more of the same on a bigger scale.
That group largely supports Clinton.
The question is how to get one group to listen to, let alone support the other.
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The entire nation is sick of the Establishment.
Who's got the chutzpah to schlep that old sack around better than Bernie? Give her a punch for me, Judy! She has a lot of Gaul pretending she's Eleanor and all, robbing the Jews to pay off her hostage takers.
Plant that one for England, Edward. I love a good family feud!
If you found that offensive, imagine having lived it, critics.
Who's got the chutzpah to schlep that old sack around better than Bernie? Give her a punch for me, Judy! She has a lot of Gaul pretending she's Eleanor and all, robbing the Jews to pay off her hostage takers.
Plant that one for England, Edward. I love a good family feud!
If you found that offensive, imagine having lived it, critics.
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It is not a matter of thinking things are on the right track. The question is how to more effectively institute needed change. Do you tear it all down or do you incrementally alter parts of the system in order to, eventually, rebuild it. The latter, in my opinion, is a better approach that is more sustainable. While it requires negotiation and compromise, it is also more realistic. The wrecking ball mentality is easy; implementing it is not feasible; and every new system will be flawed in some manner: there is no perfect system.
Sanders never stops to ask the following questions as he is only concerned with a scorched earth approach:
where are things working?
are aspects working well?
what impacts occur if change is made? and
how do we actually make the changes?
Until he can address these, he is merely a protest candidate: slogans over actual policies.
Sanders never stops to ask the following questions as he is only concerned with a scorched earth approach:
where are things working?
are aspects working well?
what impacts occur if change is made? and
how do we actually make the changes?
Until he can address these, he is merely a protest candidate: slogans over actual policies.
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The group that supports Clinton are much older and better off. They are the privileged women in whatever passes for a "power suit" who are concerned about "glass ceilings" above them while women of lesser means just want a floor under them.
They are largely unaffected by the economic distress of the 47% who couldn't raise $400 for an emergency without either taking out a loan or pawning something. (April edition of Harper's)
With a gulf that wide, don't look for unity any time soon.
They are largely unaffected by the economic distress of the 47% who couldn't raise $400 for an emergency without either taking out a loan or pawning something. (April edition of Harper's)
With a gulf that wide, don't look for unity any time soon.
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What I'd like to see in the debate won't happen. I don't want to see two people standing at podiums braying excerpts from stump speeches, while the moderator sits distant. I'd like to see the candidates sitting at a table with the moderator (Charlie Rose style), or in closely arranged comfortable chairs, talking in normal conversational voices, the way people actually talk. "My Dinner with Anderson," or something. This isn't the high school debate club.
I know the emblem of our party is a donkey, but the braying is exhausting me. I'm starting to find it hard to listen to either of the candidates because I feel as if I'm being yelled at by my parents (and I'm 58 years old). Just talk to me like I'm a person, as President Obama does even when speech-making. Trust the sound guy to make sure your mic works.
Enough haranguing. Let's discuss.
I know the emblem of our party is a donkey, but the braying is exhausting me. I'm starting to find it hard to listen to either of the candidates because I feel as if I'm being yelled at by my parents (and I'm 58 years old). Just talk to me like I'm a person, as President Obama does even when speech-making. Trust the sound guy to make sure your mic works.
Enough haranguing. Let's discuss.
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Point taken. As for me, I just skip all the foolishness about Trump and the GOP. Who cares? They are all terrible on that side. How many times do you have to hear it?
One of the first things President Obama did when coming to office was win the Nobel Peace Prize, and he spent much of his administration unable to deliver on the pledge of peace.
I hope that both candidates will be pressed to explain how they plan to go about helping to build a more peaceful world. That includes building peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
This is the critical issue of our world, and I believe that both candidates should explain their visions clearly.
If that takes place, Sanders will win NYC. There is only one candidate who can build trust between the multiple parties and not bring to the table a history of associations with administrations that supported the Netanyahu administration, however reluctantly. And I, for one, am happy that Sanders represents a vision for peace in the Middle East that will recognize the legitimacy, rights, and fundamental humanity of all sides.
I hope that both candidates will be pressed to explain how they plan to go about helping to build a more peaceful world. That includes building peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
This is the critical issue of our world, and I believe that both candidates should explain their visions clearly.
If that takes place, Sanders will win NYC. There is only one candidate who can build trust between the multiple parties and not bring to the table a history of associations with administrations that supported the Netanyahu administration, however reluctantly. And I, for one, am happy that Sanders represents a vision for peace in the Middle East that will recognize the legitimacy, rights, and fundamental humanity of all sides.
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Let's face reality he won that Prize because he wasn't Bush, that and perhaps at one time in his life he may have uttered the word Peace. That award was completely so undeserving as to be laughable.
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God Bless You Emma.
100% truth.
100% truth.
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If only Sanders' "vision" had any basis in reality.
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I like how every article about Sanders is couched within what Clinton must do to beat him, and not vice versa.
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We support Bernie Sanders because we trust his judgement has not been clouded by wealthy donors and corporate special interests.
Ms. Clinton has not articulated a clear vision of how she would reverse the ever widening chasm between the super wealthy and the 99.9%. The richest are hogging all the pizza. They don't need every slice.
Single payer health care for all. It will be more efficient cost wise, without the obscene profits. No more government sponsored pick pocketing by private corporations.
Most importantly we are tired of perpetual war and the costs of propping up corrupt foreign governments at the expense of infrastructure and other work that needs to be done here in the USA.
Bernie Sanders 2016.
Ms. Clinton has not articulated a clear vision of how she would reverse the ever widening chasm between the super wealthy and the 99.9%. The richest are hogging all the pizza. They don't need every slice.
Single payer health care for all. It will be more efficient cost wise, without the obscene profits. No more government sponsored pick pocketing by private corporations.
Most importantly we are tired of perpetual war and the costs of propping up corrupt foreign governments at the expense of infrastructure and other work that needs to be done here in the USA.
Bernie Sanders 2016.
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Bernie Sanders hasn't articulated a vision of how all of his programs will be paid for.
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Please explain why Sanders supports the gun lobby. He supports the NRA and their desire to arm everyone (including terrorists). I don't believe Sanders has "articulated a clear vision of how she would reverse the ever widening chasm between the super wealthy and the 99.9%." He has yet to explain how any of his reforms function or how they would implemented.
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No 0 he just votes for policy and to fund wars but then during elections, he claims he didn't agree with them in the first place.
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Had I written that article I would have included the need for Mrs. Clinton to defend her judgment - on her role in our involvement in Libya, on the server at home, and of course on the Iraq war. To list but a few.
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And her transcripts! It is very poor judgment on her part to withhold them. It is childish to say the Republicans have to show theirs. Why? Everyone knows they shill for the 1%. If she had released them at the start, it wouldn't still be an issue. For a smart women, she behaves very foolishly.
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Where was Bernie the last twenty-five years? How did he move his message forward? And you believe he will have the clout to do this now? Don't think so.
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That's just it-- look at what Sanders has been advocating stridently for the past 25 years (economic fairness, less legalized corruption of our political process, healthcare for all, equitable funding of education and other government responsibilities), often in the face of wide dismissal- even ridicule- by the ruling plutocratic class. Compare that to Clinton's demonstrated hawkish record, dedication to the wildly inequitable economic status quo, evidently self-serving and greedy use of the Clinton Foundation for personal gain, along with, admittedly, a strong advocacy of a few very important initiatives to achieve true equality for women in our country and around the world. I think it's very clear who has the better record of speaking out for the benefit of the broadest section of our global village. What good is Clinton's self-stated ability to, "Actually get things done," if those things are against the best interests of most people here and abroad?
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Where were you the last 25 years !
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The question is where have you been? Bernie's record is available and many people have commented on it.
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What will happen in the debate? Bernie will remain true to form and perform strongly with his consistent message. Hillary will go on the attack and then claim victimhood playing the gender card if Sanders dares to respond. The corporate media will then unanimously declare Clinton the winner, regardless of her actual performance. In fact, they have probably written their stories in advance, all ready to post.
Come back tomorrow to see how accurate this prediction was!
Come back tomorrow to see how accurate this prediction was!
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With respect to the debate, as neither a Democrat or a Republican, but as a Citizen, my only hopes are that the candidates focus on the issues, not on each other; that they meaningfully explain their visions for our country; and that they provide specifics about how they intend to make those visions a reality. With respect to the media, my only hope is that it focuses on substance rather than style; that it grades the candidates not on sound bytes, but on command of the issues; and that it offers more actual analysis than meaningless advocacy for one candidate or the other. Debates are meaningless exercises in showmanship unless the candidates, the media, and the voters elevate the discussion.
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Good grief. Making gun makers responsible for people shooting people is as logical as making auto makers responsible for damage done by drunk drivers. Bernie shouldn't be blasted for being rational on this issue.
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There's a little more nuance to the issue, considering the purpose of guns is to shoot things.
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That is a ridiculous analogy. Drunk people shooting other people is not the issue. Auto makers have many regulations they have to follow to make the cars safer - seat belts, air bags, child safety locks, etc. Gun makers are not held to anywhere near as close of standards to make their product safer.
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I am 100% opposed to guns, but as long as the guns are sold and bought legally, I agree it is wholly ridiculous that Bernie is being blasted for this.
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While I support Sanders I'd like him to use this debate focusing more on his considerable differences with all three GOP candidates,less on his differences with Hillary.The worst result of tonight's debate would be which ever one of the 2 Democrats is the nominee being irreversably being damaged going into the General Election.
I agree Bernie needs to give a different answer regarding guns because he's not running for President of Vermont.
I agree Bernie needs to give a different answer regarding guns because he's not running for President of Vermont.
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He should hit back with Hillary's sitting on the Board at Walmart as someone posted earlier they are the largest supplier of guns. And HRC was getting six figures to sit on said board. All she knows how to do is take other peoples money willingly then shrugging it off and deflecting any criticism. She's a tool for corporate America and her fan base apparently don't give a fig. Hypocrisy knows no bounds with her.
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BTW, do you know the WaPo gave Hillary three Pinocchios for her claim that the gun violence in New York was from guns coming from Vermont? There were 55 guns identified in crimes as coming from Vermont. For context, there were over 300 identified as coming from Virginia.
Hillary has mastered the art of lying with data, but that's not hard to do.
Hillary has mastered the art of lying with data, but that's not hard to do.
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‘’Write In’’ Bernie Sanders!
In November
We can create the possibility of a Sen. Sanders win in November using the power of our ‘write in’ vote(s). I see no other mechanism to get around establishment politics and entrenched corporate interests. The downside is we take our chances with a Donald Trump Presidency. But, at least we can vote our conscience which seems to offer the only choice left.
In November
We can create the possibility of a Sen. Sanders win in November using the power of our ‘write in’ vote(s). I see no other mechanism to get around establishment politics and entrenched corporate interests. The downside is we take our chances with a Donald Trump Presidency. But, at least we can vote our conscience which seems to offer the only choice left.
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Why "write in" Sanders? Has the Times convinced you Bernie can't win? Let the voters decide who really has their best interests at heart. We need to get that message out there and get real change in this country, not just the presidency. We need the big money out of elections, then the congress will respond to the voters. We need Sanders to begin the transformation of the Democratic party and Washington, not a 3rd party split. Don't even think it!
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We won't fall for this Republican solution. Nice try. :)
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If you read Socrates this morning it is a full explanation for using the “Write In” Bernie this November as a last ditch stand for eliminating corporate, 1% election donors and banking controlling of our government.
Return control to the people as it should be.
Good going S.Whether
Return control to the people as it should be.
Good going S.Whether
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Sanders needs to rage against the Democratic machine that limits his potential supporters' franchise - in Pennsylvania as well as New York. But I suppose he is either too nice or wants to catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But the convention should be a different matter: Rage required.
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What to expect?
Well, when Mr. Sanders speaks, he will be cut off by Ms. Clinton, or she will have a smug look on her face or she will be rolling her eyes, etc. Then when she speaks. she will attack Mr. Sanders and will not let him get in a word edgewise. The moderators, which favor Ms. Clinton, will give her a free pass and will not let Mr. Sanders elaborate. CNN knows that they must make Mr. Sanders look bad, so Ms. Clinton ends the race by winning New York. Welcome to oligarch run media and politics.
Well, when Mr. Sanders speaks, he will be cut off by Ms. Clinton, or she will have a smug look on her face or she will be rolling her eyes, etc. Then when she speaks. she will attack Mr. Sanders and will not let him get in a word edgewise. The moderators, which favor Ms. Clinton, will give her a free pass and will not let Mr. Sanders elaborate. CNN knows that they must make Mr. Sanders look bad, so Ms. Clinton ends the race by winning New York. Welcome to oligarch run media and politics.
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Are you kidding? Bernie can't even contain himself while Hillary speaks.
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The lame stream media at work again very sad state of affairs how biased they are against Sanders and not one talking head on tv will ever call another empty taking head out.
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Don't be silly. Bernie mugs for the audience, shakes his head and waggles his fingers...didn't see that? You weren't looking.
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It would be amazing if CNN stayed away from questions about silly gaffes and dove into the real differences between these candidates. Sanders questions Clinton's judgement, but voted to confirm her as Secretary of State. Given that the SoS is the president's chief foreign policy adviser, you would think that a principled position would have been to decline to confirm her.
I personally believe Clinton has a stronger hand. Clearly Dodd-Frank is forcing financial institutions, as recently reported, to do exactly what it was designed to do--that is a good test of its viability and that undercuts the need to dismantle the banks.
Sanders would do well to stop the passive aggressive character assassination attacks. It will make him look stronger. Though it continues to get lost in the primary, the differences between these candidates is a matter of degree and execution--they agree on what matters. Clearly the gloves are off, but that is only an issue if it becomes a matter of tit-for-tat, instead of advocating for their positions. There's a difference.
I personally believe Clinton has a stronger hand. Clearly Dodd-Frank is forcing financial institutions, as recently reported, to do exactly what it was designed to do--that is a good test of its viability and that undercuts the need to dismantle the banks.
Sanders would do well to stop the passive aggressive character assassination attacks. It will make him look stronger. Though it continues to get lost in the primary, the differences between these candidates is a matter of degree and execution--they agree on what matters. Clearly the gloves are off, but that is only an issue if it becomes a matter of tit-for-tat, instead of advocating for their positions. There's a difference.
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You make excellent points. Thank you.
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The difference is that Bill Clinton was responsible for the financial crisis by repeal of Glass-Stegaell and enablement of credit default swaps as unregulated bets on assets, all to increase massively leverage for Wall Street. He did not listen to Brooksley Born. I do not believe Mrs. Clinton. She is a tool of Wall Street, and serves the 1%, but in a different way than Republicans.
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Clearly they agree on most but Bernie will owe no one anything except the public.
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"Can Clinton fight on her own terms?"
Translation: "Can that guy who guy who asks difficult questions about my disturbing record on trade, foreign policy and judgement please stop, so that I can get back to watering down any hope for any real solutions with slick, forgettable lines?"
Translation: "Can that guy who guy who asks difficult questions about my disturbing record on trade, foreign policy and judgement please stop, so that I can get back to watering down any hope for any real solutions with slick, forgettable lines?"
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They never ask her to expound on her answers, they take them at face value as if they were true. I watch these debates with a very large grain of salt, I watch the moderators and see how they treat each candidate and pay attention to the questions asked of each. Since CNN is so far up the Clinton machine the moderators credibility will be laughable at best.
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She could if she knew what she stood for and knew that Americans shared her perspective and values. She doesn't and they don't.
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Maybe if Bernie released his ever so simple tax returns he could take the "transparency" route. Does it not bother any of the Bernie supporters that, since his and his wife's tax returns are so simple she does them on Turbotax, which can be accessed on the internet from anywhere (no need to go home to get the physical papers), maybe they are not so flattering? If you think Bernie is the salvation, just think about the Republicans tearing into him on day one of the campaign. Why doesn't he just face whatever it is in those return that scares him so much now so he can develop a defence in relatively friendly conditions, rather than face the full force of the Republicans in the campaign.
If you think this is a non-issue, then just think about what you think of Donald Trump making lame excuses for not releasing his full tax returns. tell yourself that is a non-issue, and then defend Bernie on it. If you can't, think about the general electorate and how they are going to feel about Bernie when he continues to try to obfuscate about this issue to the Republicans.
And this has no equivalency to any speeches, unless Bernie want to start releasing transcripts of any discussions he may have held with the Castros and Hugo Chavez. All presidential contenders in the past have released their full tax returns. Why can't Trump and Bernie? Hillary has done it since at least 2002, and you all think she is the wicked witch of the west.
If you think this is a non-issue, then just think about what you think of Donald Trump making lame excuses for not releasing his full tax returns. tell yourself that is a non-issue, and then defend Bernie on it. If you can't, think about the general electorate and how they are going to feel about Bernie when he continues to try to obfuscate about this issue to the Republicans.
And this has no equivalency to any speeches, unless Bernie want to start releasing transcripts of any discussions he may have held with the Castros and Hugo Chavez. All presidential contenders in the past have released their full tax returns. Why can't Trump and Bernie? Hillary has done it since at least 2002, and you all think she is the wicked witch of the west.
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If Hillary had held a speech in Washington Square last night few would have attended. Bernie's policies represent the future, Hillary's the past.
We either allow money to keep controlling policy in Washington or we do something to stop it. We have one candidate who is not bought and paid for by lobbyists and every special interest.
If you love the status quo and believe it is where you want America heading in future decades, by all means vote for Hillary. If you believe the status quo is simply unsustainable, vote for Bernie.
That is unless you are an independent--in which case NY does not want you to vote, that is until November when your support will be expected.
We either allow money to keep controlling policy in Washington or we do something to stop it. We have one candidate who is not bought and paid for by lobbyists and every special interest.
If you love the status quo and believe it is where you want America heading in future decades, by all means vote for Hillary. If you believe the status quo is simply unsustainable, vote for Bernie.
That is unless you are an independent--in which case NY does not want you to vote, that is until November when your support will be expected.
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The arrogance of the Bernie followers is astounding. Seriously. You assume because there was a big crowd that more people agree with Bernie?
I'm a Clinton supporter. I was too busy making dinner, helping my kids with homework and getting life done to go to a rally with a bunch of self-absorbed millennials who - from their lack of deep knowledge of Clinton that I see on these message boards - only became aware of politics 6 months ago.
I'm a Clinton supporter. I was too busy making dinner, helping my kids with homework and getting life done to go to a rally with a bunch of self-absorbed millennials who - from their lack of deep knowledge of Clinton that I see on these message boards - only became aware of politics 6 months ago.
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Big difference, Hillary would have charged people to enter Washington Square.
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And we will be there.
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It's fairly remarkable to watch as one media outlet after another attempts, in ways both subtle and overt, to champion the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. If it's not the issue of super delegates, then it's conveniently omitting the hawkish nature as her tenure as secretary of state. The list goes on and on, from her support of jailing so-called super predators (there's that adjective super again) to her support for fracking and Wall Street where much of her unlimited backing comes from. She is a neoliberal to her very core and that's what the establishment demands.
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"The news cycle gave Mr. Sanders a big gift on Wednesday, with the revelation that five big banks had failed to develop plans for dismantling themselves in the event of a financial crisis."*
"news cycle" (read: this won't matter by tomorrow)
"big gift" (read: free undeserved publicity)
"plans for dismantling themselves" (read: toothless Dodd/Frank rule)
"in the event of a financial crisis" (read: how unlikely!)
*A sentence like this could only be written with a certain perspective on reality.
"news cycle" (read: this won't matter by tomorrow)
"big gift" (read: free undeserved publicity)
"plans for dismantling themselves" (read: toothless Dodd/Frank rule)
"in the event of a financial crisis" (read: how unlikely!)
*A sentence like this could only be written with a certain perspective on reality.
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I have yet to hear a single word from Bernie about the fundamental folly of monetary policy at the zero lower bound of interest rates.
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Are you suggesting we give bankers another eight years to hide those empty bets they placed in Maiden Lane under our names? Seriously, we want it to just go away without understanding how it imploded? I've seen this twice; you go on repeating ourselves. I'm sick of it.
It's gonna matter when we turn up the collateral these empty betters have to place, tighten your budget; it's already blown.
It's gonna matter when we turn up the collateral these empty betters have to place, tighten your budget; it's already blown.
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Not as big a gift as $225,000 to Hillary Clinton from Verizon. Which side is she on?
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I'm a resident of NY state and I cannot vote in the NY primary because I am not a registered Democrat or Republican. I am an independent. This rule angers me to no end. Apparently NY state does not feel that independents have a voice in an election. I don't know who made this rule but it IS NOT fair!!!!!!
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A lot of us are in the same boat, it's discriminatory that a great many people are left out of the process. Perhaps Trump saying the system is rigged holds some truth. It won't change either as both are corrupt to the marrow and like things the way they are.
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The primary is to identify and establish the standard bearer for the (in this case) the Democratic Party. If you're not a member of that party why should you get any say in who THEY select to be their candidate? If you want to propose that there be no party affiliations at all, then you would have a point. But so long as we have partisan elections, it is not fair that a non-member get to decide for the party who represents it.
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If you don't like parties, then don't be offended if you aren't invited to the latest pooper. Most voters know this is the case after a few times round the bar, so if you want to get under their influence, you got to get loaded for elephants or donkeys.
Now the clever leaver thrower re-registers under the animal that is best in line for the big shot, or does so just to throw the show for the same lifter.
Now the clever leaver thrower re-registers under the animal that is best in line for the big shot, or does so just to throw the show for the same lifter.
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"If Mr. Sanders is to put to rest skepticism about his readiness for the presidency "....
Whose skepticism? If he is not ready with his long experience and dedication to the issues at hand, who is?
As for "the bristling and dodging" in that now famous Daily News interview depends on whose filter. On those policy issues he has been very clear and as specific as he could be according to others. So this framing, once again, is about the reporting, including here.
8:14 AM 8-14-16
Whose skepticism? If he is not ready with his long experience and dedication to the issues at hand, who is?
As for "the bristling and dodging" in that now famous Daily News interview depends on whose filter. On those policy issues he has been very clear and as specific as he could be according to others. So this framing, once again, is about the reporting, including here.
8:14 AM 8-14-16
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My skepticism. There's more to being a president than economic reform, and he hasn't decisively shown me what he brings to the table when he sits down at the G20 and talks to the rest of the world.
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Why didn't Senator Sanders PREVENT the banks from getting so BIG? He's been in Congress the last 30+ years and could have PREVENTED it. The system has worked well for him. Like Ron and Rand Paul he yells and shouts and it does nothing but keep them in office. Boys will be boys.
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I am skeptical of Mr. Sanders, and I like his views a lot. I do not think he has the leadership charisma and influence to sway Congress or foreign leaders. He has a lot of great qualities and views, yet is not necessarily the person to be POTUS, IMO. So, let's answer your question with, my skepticism (one voter). I would imagine that there are others who may also be skeptical.
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Bernie's wins so far have been gotten from Republican party voters who switched their affiliation to Democrat to vote for him in the primaries. Republican funds have not been attacking Bernie, only Hillary. Now we will see if his attacks on her character together with Republican attacks will have a meaningful impact on a real primary, where most of the voters for Bernie are not actually Republicans. Wake up America! Do you want an angry sound bite, or a prepared and honestly dedicated candidate who is ready to lead America out of this mess and into our real future.
I'm with her!
I'm with her!
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Wow. How can a candidate who is running on the platform of the "status quo" going to "lead America out of this mess and into our real future."? You stance, fro Ms. Clinton, is to keep the oligarchs happy, have the middle and working class wither on the vine and have more distribution of the wealth continue upward. No thank you. Mr. Sanders or Mr. Trump, despite faults pointed out by Clinton and GOP minions, at least offer change.
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As a NYer I'm with him.
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Apparently Americans either never figure out what hit them, or forget it between every election. False prophets keep leading them into the same tiger traps.
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Clinton just needs to stay on the mound and keep Sanders in the batter's box, demanding of him details regarding policy, both foreign and domestic. Just remove the veil from the wizard (the GOP will burn it off in a flash once he's the nominee). One major reason to vote for Clinton is that we have a divided electorate. The immense failures of the GOP have created both Trump and Sanders - angry people who want revolutions. But the democratic party has always been about inclusion, and saying hell be damned forget what the middle of the country wants is neither a winning strategy, nor an honorable one.
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The Democratic Party went out of its way this election cycle to marginalize Bernie Sanders, so I ask you, 'What Inclusion'?
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I think a Clinton candidacy will divide the party. Younger voters. the boots on the ground that we need most in the next election cycles are very progressive and over 80% for Sanders. She has dismissed them, calling them naive and uninformed. If she is the nominee where are they going to go?
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Stay on the mound? Throwing spitters? Walking batters? With her Mets cap on one inning and her Yankee cap on in the next? Bernie will foul off a couple pitches into the JP Morgan Chase luxury box then put one into what used to be called the bleachers...
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From ALL politicians, not only democrats, how about REAL leadership? Competence? Results? Sincerity? Courage? The list goes on...
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Great suggestion, but for a lot of voters those items are secondary to identity - they will disregard pretty much everything else in order to select someone from a particular party, a particular gender (those who will vote for Hillary for no other reason than she's a woman), a single issue regardless of everything else, etc. The voting public creates this mess.
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George S: I agree.
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It is really insulting & sexist to assert that women are voting
for Hillary just because she is female.
for Hillary just because she is female.
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Hillary has FAILED at everything she's done: Health care 1994; go to war 2003; troop surges in Iraq and Afghanistan; bomb Libya and kill Qaddafi; unable to deal with Syria; pandering to Netanyahu.
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Senator Clinton worked hard for New York in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.
The next president has to conduct relations with our allies dimplomatically, and not condemn the leader of a U.S. ally in an undiplomatic fashion.
Israel under Netanyahu has defended his own people against attacks from groups like Islamic Jihad and the al-Aqsa Martyr Brigade. Israel also has provided the U.S.-led coalition fighting ISIS with critical intelligence that it could find nowhere else.
Why in your mind does realpolitik apply to everything in the world except Israel and Netanyahu?
The next president has to conduct relations with our allies dimplomatically, and not condemn the leader of a U.S. ally in an undiplomatic fashion.
Israel under Netanyahu has defended his own people against attacks from groups like Islamic Jihad and the al-Aqsa Martyr Brigade. Israel also has provided the U.S.-led coalition fighting ISIS with critical intelligence that it could find nowhere else.
Why in your mind does realpolitik apply to everything in the world except Israel and Netanyahu?
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Do you expect your candidate Sanders to actually be able to speak to anyone beyond his chosen constituency to achieve anything?
The country and the world is full of competing interests. It is easy to sound like you have all the answers on a stage in front of your cheering supporters.
I'm with Her.
The country and the world is full of competing interests. It is easy to sound like you have all the answers on a stage in front of your cheering supporters.
I'm with Her.
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One could just as well disparage Powel and Rice for the same behavior, and worse. For years the GOP has been waging a veritable war of attrition on the Clintons ... their legacy and their character. They have used every propaganda trick and legislative gimmick deliberately designed to literally destroy them ... code-words, dog whistles. endless congressional investigations and widely publicized kangaroo-court-style hearings, and even pointless impeachment proceedings ... all based on contrived lies and obfuscations ... ultimately going no where. Yet these exaggerated notion's of Hillary Clinton's being "untrustable" and baseless one sided attacks on her record persist as evidenced in biased comments like this.
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Just be yourself, Bernie. You've been a fighter for us little people your whole adult life. It's the same on the world stage as the national and local.
The big world problems all have one thing in common and that's how they were and are being handled by the oligarchy; the old school. Whether it was Reagan unleashing Wall Street and destroying Trade Unions or Bush 1 with Gulf 1 or Bush 2 dismantling the middle east into a broken mess or Alan Greenspan, Hank Paulson and Bernanke propping up banking thieves with our money or Bill Clinton with a trade deal that insured more American companies would set up shop abroad - it was all done the old way. With nary a thought about who pays in the long run.
Bernie, you are the new way and our time has come! You got this one!
We got this one!
Good luck tonight!
In solidarity! Bernie - 2016!
The big world problems all have one thing in common and that's how they were and are being handled by the oligarchy; the old school. Whether it was Reagan unleashing Wall Street and destroying Trade Unions or Bush 1 with Gulf 1 or Bush 2 dismantling the middle east into a broken mess or Alan Greenspan, Hank Paulson and Bernanke propping up banking thieves with our money or Bill Clinton with a trade deal that insured more American companies would set up shop abroad - it was all done the old way. With nary a thought about who pays in the long run.
Bernie, you are the new way and our time has come! You got this one!
We got this one!
Good luck tonight!
In solidarity! Bernie - 2016!
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PS. To Bernie
Read Socrates today.
Please demand that Secretary Clinton produce transcripts of those talks.
Please grill her on the absurdity of her 'just knock it off' advice to Wall Street.
If the admonition doesn't work on children fighting in the back seat of the car, it will certainly have no effect on oligarch bankers
Read Socrates today.
Please demand that Secretary Clinton produce transcripts of those talks.
Please grill her on the absurdity of her 'just knock it off' advice to Wall Street.
If the admonition doesn't work on children fighting in the back seat of the car, it will certainly have no effect on oligarch bankers
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> "You've been a fighter for us little people your whole adult life . . "
REALITY-CHECK= We don't need 'fighters' we need people who can get things done.
One of the most effective politicians we have had in recent history is former Representative Barney Frank, who actually DID SOMETHING real, regarding WallStreet.
Mr Frank praises Bernie in a general way for his intentions, but explicitly says that in terms of getting things done, he was not very useful
[ Barney Frank Is Not Impressed by Bernie Sanders
Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it ]
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/03/ba...
REALITY-CHECK= We don't need 'fighters' we need people who can get things done.
One of the most effective politicians we have had in recent history is former Representative Barney Frank, who actually DID SOMETHING real, regarding WallStreet.
Mr Frank praises Bernie in a general way for his intentions, but explicitly says that in terms of getting things done, he was not very useful
[ Barney Frank Is Not Impressed by Bernie Sanders
Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it ]
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/03/ba...
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I'm waiting for either of them to ask the other if they have taken any prescription drugs in the last six months. Seems like a reasonable question given their ages.
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Why is that a reasonable question? If a candidate had strep throat and took an antibiotic four months ago, what would that have to do with age? What you really want to know, surely, is whether the candidate in in good enough health to have the physical stamina to do the job. Seems to me that the grueling campaign schedule answers that question.
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the question should be ..... what have you promised the lobbyists
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West Coaster
You are guilty of ageism. Fortunately for you, time will change your perspective.
You are guilty of ageism. Fortunately for you, time will change your perspective.
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“Once Truman left the White House in 1953, his notion of how an ex-president should behave led him to refuse — unlike a number of more recent former presidents — lavish offers for speeches and corporate affiliations.”
There is only one candidate from each party that would not spontaneous combust upon entry to the Harry S. Truman Library and Museum in Independence Missouri.
The many can compete with the few - Bernie Sanders for President 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/business/for-harry-truman-the-buck-sto...
There is only one candidate from each party that would not spontaneous combust upon entry to the Harry S. Truman Library and Museum in Independence Missouri.
The many can compete with the few - Bernie Sanders for President 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/business/for-harry-truman-the-buck-sto...
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One has to wonder why Senator Sanders wants so many debates on BIG FOR-PROFIT television outlets. Why isn't he DEMANDING they be held by C-Span with neutral, politically educated moderators? Why does he constantly appear on BIG media to repeat ad-nauseum his "little people" rhetoric? He is a sham and the only thing he really has going for him is that he is a man. My vote goes to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton. SHE is the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL CAPITAL and SHE has not been hiding in Congress, yelling and voting no, for the past 30+ years.
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The article should also tell readers what time the debate is on and how to watch it online. (Although the photo does show the CNN building.)
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If they did more people would watch. That might not be good for Hillary. Wouldn't want to take that chance. That is why she dodged it as long as she could.
Sanders will leave the event and head straight to the Vatican for his speech there the next day. Want to bet that the Times will cover that event by burying it somewhere difficult to find and the gist will be that it was worthless? Of course, were it Hillary (what a joke) it would be the lede the next day.
Sanders will leave the event and head straight to the Vatican for his speech there the next day. Want to bet that the Times will cover that event by burying it somewhere difficult to find and the gist will be that it was worthless? Of course, were it Hillary (what a joke) it would be the lede the next day.
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Sorry, Bernie's not going to the Vatican to give a speech, he's going for a conference. And there is no current confirmation that he will even meet the pope, although he says he hopes he can.
So its not an invitation from the pope, and its not so important that the pope has yet indicated he is going to change his schedule to meet with Bernie.
Let's not make it bigger than it actually is.
So its not an invitation from the pope, and its not so important that the pope has yet indicated he is going to change his schedule to meet with Bernie.
Let's not make it bigger than it actually is.
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@Karen ~ The debate is on CNN at 9 pm EDT.
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Any journalist still citing the Daily News Interview, as Mr. Burns does, either exposes his lack of research, his attempt to shape the news (as the Daily News interview did) rather than report it or his inability to understand the difference.
Take your pick. I used to think that none were worthy of the NYT. After its overwhelming bias, I have a difficult time trusting any article in this newspaper, always wondering what the hidden agenda is.
The media is no longer a watchdog. It is now little more than a special interest.
Take your pick. I used to think that none were worthy of the NYT. After its overwhelming bias, I have a difficult time trusting any article in this newspaper, always wondering what the hidden agenda is.
The media is no longer a watchdog. It is now little more than a special interest.
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When The New York Times considers the Daily News a serious news source, then we know how low the "fourth estate" has fallen. When I grew up on Long Island, we had Newsday and the Daily News. You received Newsday to get the news, and you received the Daily News fro the sports and the comics; you shrugged at its "news". Though, it had more pictures than Newsday. When it exited, we also had the Sunday Journal-American; it had the best comics.
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Well said. NYT no longer has my trust after their very biased coverage of the this election.
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If the Daily News is so irrelevant, why did Bernie give them an interview? Either you are exaggerating al little, or Bernie does not make the best choices in who he allows to interview him. Which is it?
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Seen one, seen them all.
I know I will tune in, all eager. Then I will hear Uncle Bernie talk about millionaires and billionaires, and working class people . . . .
And then I will hear Aunt Hillary talk about a container load of band aids for deep problems that ail us.
That is when I will bury my head in my pilliow, turn off the lights, and go off to sleep.
Better yet, I might just go off to sleep.
Kalidan
I know I will tune in, all eager. Then I will hear Uncle Bernie talk about millionaires and billionaires, and working class people . . . .
And then I will hear Aunt Hillary talk about a container load of band aids for deep problems that ail us.
That is when I will bury my head in my pilliow, turn off the lights, and go off to sleep.
Better yet, I might just go off to sleep.
Kalidan
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Bernie needs to attack Hillary if he wants to have any chance to win. The "damn emails" as he said, demonstrate a sloppiness torward national security bordering on criminal negligence. Do we want that in a President? Woman or not, she is running for President. I care about the emails Mr. Sanders and so do many loyal democrats. Go after her tonight like you mean it or I will never vote for you!
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Back off the emails...If you haven't noticed, most heads of priority agency have done worse than she.
Petreaus thought draft file was where to hide the breeze. FBI ran down his tease pronto.
Pretty sure DoD chiefs and CIA have present leadership with same chips holding.
Petreaus thought draft file was where to hide the breeze. FBI ran down his tease pronto.
Pretty sure DoD chiefs and CIA have present leadership with same chips holding.
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hope he doesn't follow your advice, if he does, I won't vote for him even if he is the nominee. if the state department was so interested in cybersecurity, the IT guys would have swooped down on the first day, took away all of Clinton's devices or modified them and tell her exactly what email she is allowed to use. that's what they do at my workplace and I don't even work for the govt.
and no one went after any other official who used their private emails before.
and no one went after any other official who used their private emails before.
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Then perhaps Hillary should go full force on why he can't release a few simple tax returns, like Hillary has done for years. And that's full tax returns, not summaries, just like every other presidential candidate aside from Trump and Cruz has in past presidential races. Or maybe he can get Donald to support him in saying its not important.
Really helps Donald's case for not releasing his, and probably part of the reason Donald has been defending Bernie this week.
Really helps Donald's case for not releasing his, and probably part of the reason Donald has been defending Bernie this week.
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Hillary, in true "Clinton fashion", is playing the democrats (and the left-leaning press), especially the blacks, as FOOLS! Unfortunately, it will work, and things will go on pretty much the same direction they have gone for years.
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You forgot "corporately-owned, capitalist advertisement dependent" before "left-leaning press...."
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Dan, let me give you a peek into common characteristics of Americans. We will not vote for a woman until we have no other recourse. That's why I was all in on Obama in 2008. She, and many other women, turn even Dem men sour at the thought of them telling us what to do, Honey. Did that tick you off? Try sweetie coming from Hillary.
If we think white men are a sad spectacle bemoaning their former privledged status, you haven't seen anything, yet. Men on their own get up to their own messes and don't like women asking them what went wrong...
So you can concern yourself with her weak stances on banks, MIC and economic socialism, but most people can't stand her and never will accept a woman in the house. Bernie is not my first socialist of choice, but I'll take him in a nano trade, Goldman.
If we think white men are a sad spectacle bemoaning their former privledged status, you haven't seen anything, yet. Men on their own get up to their own messes and don't like women asking them what went wrong...
So you can concern yourself with her weak stances on banks, MIC and economic socialism, but most people can't stand her and never will accept a woman in the house. Bernie is not my first socialist of choice, but I'll take him in a nano trade, Goldman.
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Do you have so little respect for black Americans that you judge them as fools for making their own decisions?
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I was in Washington Square yesterday. I was stunned by the sheer number of people coming and waiting in the cold to listen to Bernie Sanders.
There was a time I would have liked Hillary to be president but I am much less certain of that now.
I hope tonight debate will clarify candidates position on the subject of campaign financing, foreign policies, education, and criminal justice reform.
There was a time I would have liked Hillary to be president but I am much less certain of that now.
I hope tonight debate will clarify candidates position on the subject of campaign financing, foreign policies, education, and criminal justice reform.
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But how many of those fans in WSP are registered Dems in NY?
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I was in Washington Square last night and in St. Mary's Park a few weeks ago. I too am just amazed by the turn out. My spouse just called me from work, where he wore his Bernie pin on his jacket -- to tell me all the positive comments he is receiving all morning long!
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What about racism, lgbt issues, Social Security. You are exactly Sanders target. These issues are real but they are not the only issues.
The press should break out of its pattern of complacency and demand that Sanders release his tax returns before the New York primary. Stop giving him a free ride.
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what about wall street speech transcript ??
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Then maybe they will hold her to the same standard of demand, the press has given her a free ride for 25 years, taking every answer of hers at face value.
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And Hillary her paid transcipts. Don't you think the people of New York (not to mention all of the US) should know what she's telling Wall Street bankers? She says she's for campaign finance reform, she says she's for regulating Wall Street, so let's see what she's saying behind closed doors.
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For seven years, Hillary worked for the largest gun seller in America--Walmart. Her yawping about Bernie's position is hypocrisy.
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Having a client and working "for" a company in a freelance capacity does not mean one is beholden to that company, or that one agrees with all their policies. This is important, because many women are freelance due to their need to take time off of full-time work to care for children and elders. Shaming Hillary for having a client whose policies you disagree with: Would you do it to a man you supported as a politician?
#Damngaslightdimmed
#Damngaslightdimmed
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Better still, Hillary was gung-ho on the Second Amendment during her 2008 campaign. She bragged about her father teaching her to shoot. She even brought down a bird with a shotgun once to prove it. But now, oh now, she has found one issue on which she can pose as left of Bernie, so she cynical does.
Hillary is on every side of every issue because the poor woman has no idea what she stands for. She has a bevy of advisors (including Bill) who tell her different things. She tries to satisfy each of them by picking up bits and pieces and it makes her a scattered mess on the campaign trail. Why all the countless missteps? Because she has no core. All she wants is to be the first woman president. That is not a policy. That is not a vision.
Hillary is on every side of every issue because the poor woman has no idea what she stands for. She has a bevy of advisors (including Bill) who tell her different things. She tries to satisfy each of them by picking up bits and pieces and it makes her a scattered mess on the campaign trail. Why all the countless missteps? Because she has no core. All she wants is to be the first woman president. That is not a policy. That is not a vision.
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nancy
Every word of your knee-jerk defense of Hillary on this point is wrong. Wal-Mart was NOT Hillary's client; she was a member of the Board.
Even if Wal-Mart were a client she, like every lawyer in America, has the choice of whether to take on a client whose views and acts millions find reprehensible.
And you can't be serious about the "freelancers" and child-care nonsense. Not only was Wal-Mart not a client of Hillary, but at the time, Hillary worked for the largest law firm in the state; hardly "freelance." And she was married to the governor; hardly destitute, she did not even need to work.
Every word of your knee-jerk defense of Hillary on this point is wrong. Wal-Mart was NOT Hillary's client; she was a member of the Board.
Even if Wal-Mart were a client she, like every lawyer in America, has the choice of whether to take on a client whose views and acts millions find reprehensible.
And you can't be serious about the "freelancers" and child-care nonsense. Not only was Wal-Mart not a client of Hillary, but at the time, Hillary worked for the largest law firm in the state; hardly "freelance." And she was married to the governor; hardly destitute, she did not even need to work.
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"to convey a vision of the presidency more enthralling than the pragmatic pursuit of incremental liberal policy change. So, you're basically saying she should become Bernie Sanders. Her problem and main obstacle is she is not liberal or progressive and should have ignored her campaign advisors that focus grouped Sander's positions then conned her into adopting them in a watered down fashion. If she stayed the course of the moderate she truly is then I think people would have at least respected her more on the left. It should have been this way and let the voters decide which path the Party should go- moderate and centrist/complicit or Big, Bold and Progressive.
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Sanders wanted this debate. It is his to lose.
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If Senator Sanders wants to win the primary, he ought to start reminding people about the elephant in the room; Hillary Clinton is the only candidate for POTUS that is under investigation by the FBI. Plus, he should add her role in Libya spiraling out of control, the truckloads of money form countries doing business with the US to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State, etc.
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Agreed, the problem though is his insistence on being gentlemanly and honoring a promise he made not to bring up the email scandal. Of course HRC took the gloves off first.
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Unfortunately, Sanders really hates the politics of personal assault. He takes her on concerning her record, but he leaves the personal side - which has much to question - alone. The GOP have no such scruples. Should she win, we will all hear how she greased the way for Clinton Foundation donors while at State. I think it is far game. It speaks to her character, of lack of it, but I doubt he will attack her on it.
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Paul, it appears you don't know what "elephant in the room" means.
An 'elephant in the room' is a big issue that remains unaddressed...something people do not want to talk about for whatever reason.
What you mention are faux scandals that have been beaten ad nauseam by first, the rabid GOP, and now, by rabid Sanders followers who share far too many characteristics with the tea party.
Clinton has been under attack by the GOP for the past 25 years. Poor Bernie would be eaten alive by the GOP if they unleashed their dogs on him...which they haven't done and aren't likely to unless he gets the nomination.
An 'elephant in the room' is a big issue that remains unaddressed...something people do not want to talk about for whatever reason.
What you mention are faux scandals that have been beaten ad nauseam by first, the rabid GOP, and now, by rabid Sanders followers who share far too many characteristics with the tea party.
Clinton has been under attack by the GOP for the past 25 years. Poor Bernie would be eaten alive by the GOP if they unleashed their dogs on him...which they haven't done and aren't likely to unless he gets the nomination.
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What a sad commentary on American politics that a "down-the-line defender of Israel" is "conventional," whereas a politician who has been a "more vocal critic of Israel's settlements," and its use of military force, against what are occupied lands with large civilian populations is seen has possibly having opened himself up a line of attack. Criticisms by Sanders, who has largely been a defender of Israel's supposed acts of self-defense, pale beside those of international critics, who point out that it has repeatedly been in violation of international law and norms for decades.
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There is no presidential candidate spelling out the harsh consequences of population growth as a means of gaining political hegemony: genocidal wars.
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Reading the respective transcripts of the Daily News interviews was just staggering. I have always liked Bernie, but it is clear he lacks substance and depth, even on his core, narrow issues. Hillary, on the other hand, was clear and substantive across every single issue that mattered. I was on the fence before I read those transcripts. I will now be enthusiastically pulling the lever for her. He is not fit for the office.
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Did you also read the article here that supported what Sanders said? Do you also realize that Hillary, herself, said at an earlier debate that Dodd-Frank provides a route to containing (breaking up) the banks that pose a threat, and that Sanders was referring to a bill he introduced to Congress last year giving teeth the Dodd-Frank (which is worthless if it is not implemented) requiring that Treasury act within 90 days? Do you realize that the tabloid editors did not understand the difference between Treasury and the Fed, which contributed to the messy interview?
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Funny, I had an opposite reaction. The Daily News interview wasn't the problem rather the misrepresentation by WaPo that he bungled it. Funny, also, that after 7 straight wins, all of a sudden Team Clinton resorts to these smear tactics. Further reinforces my view of the depth of HRC's integrity.
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You will be "pulling the lever for her". Question: do you really trust her to do what she says in order to get elected?
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Thanks, an excellent summary, in my view, of the strengths and weaknesses of the candidates and what we hope they can do in the debate.
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Two days ago, Sanders announced a "Jewish outreach" hire for his campaign -- Simone Zimmerman -- who is an anti-Zionist BDS supporter who has used the F word online against Israel.
Soon after the announcement of the hire, 12 liberal Democrat members of the New York City Council announced their endorsement of Clinton.
Instead of asking "Will Israel matter?" -- the Times should've asked "Will the fight against global jihad matter?" Sanders' supporter Cornel West has called President Obama an "N" word and labeled him a war criminal for his efforts in the fight against global jihad.
Israel is not any safer than Ankara, Nigeria, Paris, Brussels or New York in the fight against global jihad. At the beginning of recent months of stabbings and vehicular attacks in Israel, Abbas made an Arabic video saying "We welcome every drop of blood spilled" and calling the stabbers martyrs who will be rewarded by Allah in heaven.
Soon after the announcement of the hire, 12 liberal Democrat members of the New York City Council announced their endorsement of Clinton.
Instead of asking "Will Israel matter?" -- the Times should've asked "Will the fight against global jihad matter?" Sanders' supporter Cornel West has called President Obama an "N" word and labeled him a war criminal for his efforts in the fight against global jihad.
Israel is not any safer than Ankara, Nigeria, Paris, Brussels or New York in the fight against global jihad. At the beginning of recent months of stabbings and vehicular attacks in Israel, Abbas made an Arabic video saying "We welcome every drop of blood spilled" and calling the stabbers martyrs who will be rewarded by Allah in heaven.
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Scott with all due respect I want a President whose allegiance is to this Country not Israel. I want a President who will put the needs of Americans first not an Israeli. I want Israel to stop feeding off the teat of the United States, it has become our 51st state with no end in site. Hillary is a panderer.
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Don't believe everything you see on the internet, unless of course you want to. Even if Ms. Zimmerman did use inappropriate language, the gist of what she is saying is valid. “What we need is for the community to stop willfully blinding itself to the disastrous reality of holding millions of Palestinians under military occupation.” Don't you understand that the current policies of Mr. Netanyahu's government are not good for Israel, neither for its security nor for its collective soul.
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Simone Zimmerman is a native of Los Angeles born in 1990 and the great-granddaughter of a Holocaust survivor, Zimmerman grew up in a Conservative Jewish household, went to Jewish day school and Jewish camp and was active in United Synagogue Youth, the Conservative movement’s youth organization, according to a biography of Zimmerman on the website of the American Jewish Peace Archive. The bio is based on an interview with Zimmerman last May. Zimmerman said she visited Israel a number of times during her childhood.
She soon joined her campus chapter of J Street, the “pro-Israel, pro-peace” lobbying group that supports U.S. pressure on Israel to support a two-state solution. She spent the summer after her sophomore year studying colloquial Arabic at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In 2012, Zimmerman was elected president of the national student board of J Street U, the group’s campus arm.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.714164
She soon joined her campus chapter of J Street, the “pro-Israel, pro-peace” lobbying group that supports U.S. pressure on Israel to support a two-state solution. She spent the summer after her sophomore year studying colloquial Arabic at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In 2012, Zimmerman was elected president of the national student board of J Street U, the group’s campus arm.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/1.714164
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The New York Democratic primary is likely to be a "winner-take-all" affair. If Sec. Clinton wins, and wins decisively, it will probably effectively end the Sanders insurgent quest for the nomination. And, if Sen. Sanders wins, it will equally be a mortal wound to the Clinton candidacy. All this argues for both staying well-within their comfort zones, but the moderators may try to push them beyond. The fact that a 74-year old, white man from a small, rural northern state is giving Sec. Clinton, the overwhelming establishment candidate with the glittering resume, such a hard time, speaks of her essential weakness. Moreover as you note with the recent story about the continuing financial threat posed by the "big banks," the defining issue of the campaign and perhaps the times--the huge wealth gap, plays to Sen. Sanders strength while all the others--gun regulation, Israel policy--seem of little interest to most voters. What does matter are jobs perceived to be lost due to trade, race and poverty reflected in the "Black Lives Matter" movement, women's reproductive rights, and the related recent attacks on LGBTs in many conservative states. Both candidates have struggled at times with many of these issues and I'd hope to hear more from them during the debate.
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Dark money is simply doing for Bernie what it did for Obama in 2008. This time their horse is a sure loser.
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Sanders, "a 74-year old...". Hillary Clinton is 69, going on 70. Her pictures certainly do not show her the way she really is.
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But the same telephony translators cash in on the carriage fees.
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