Excuse me, Yamiche, but I couldn't let the following go by: "Mr. Sanders grew up in Brooklyn, in a three -and a half room tenement." Where Mr. Sanders grew up, which was in an Apartment building south of Prospect Park, in a household of three and one half rooms, is not, and was not, and would not be considered a "tenement", in all that description, conjures! You must be new to these parts.
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Isn't it a shame in America when a man speaks the truth. points out what is wrong with our government and shows how we can improve we say he will not be successful, lives in fantasy, and then vote fro the status quo we cannot stand.
I go back to Eisenhower, and I have never seen a more honest politician. Perhaps nothing will change under Bernie but it takes a while for a cake to bake. At least, he is saying what needs to be said. I am willing to give him four years to further that message, change or no change. At least, he gets the cake in the oven.
I go back to Eisenhower, and I have never seen a more honest politician. Perhaps nothing will change under Bernie but it takes a while for a cake to bake. At least, he is saying what needs to be said. I am willing to give him four years to further that message, change or no change. At least, he gets the cake in the oven.
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Hillary has become a bald-faced liar, brazenly accusing Bernie Sanders and his supporters of things he would never think of doing, such as taking contributions from the big oil corporations or the billionaire Koch brothers; things she would do in an instant, and will do if the Republicans wind up choosing the ill-fated Trump. The "tone" issue has no basis in fact. Her political positions are based upon falsehoods. She is trying to adopt Bernie's truth of ethical integrity, when in fact she has none of it. Her tactic now will be simple: repeat lies over and over and over again, and hope that enough people believe her so that she can win a critical plurality of votes. She thinks she does not have to win with 50%+, but rather that she needs to prevent Bernie from reaching 60%. This is the overall truth for the rest of the primary campaigns leading into California in early June. But we are Bernie's supporters, and we have not yet begun to fight!
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Wait, Mr Sanders draws 18,000 plus people in the Bronx and the NY Times can't even acknowledge that in their buried headline. Heck, if it was the Times' darling, Miss Hill, it would be the lead headline. You folks are pathetic, seriously!
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I'm a New Yorker who'll be missing the NY primary, the first of consequence in decades. But I did vote for Bernie in the Democrats abroad primary. And he won! Come on, fellow New Yorkers. It's your turn. Let's send Bernie to the White House!
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The statement below is taken from a report that Mr. Sanders sent to his supporters, which is 100% accurate.
Is Hillary Clinton the person we want as our President, in this critical time in the history of our planet. I believe not.
"During a campaign stop and fundraiser in New York yesterday, Hillary Clinton was asked by a young woman if she’d stop taking money from the fossil fuel industry. It was a simple question, one she could have easily answered with a "yes," or, perhaps because of the way she funds her campaign, responded with a "no."
Instead, she said she was "sick of the Sanders campaign lying" about donations she receives.
Here’s the truth, the hard numbers don’t lie. And it’s something everyone should know as this video spreads online and is covered in the news: The fossil fuel industry has given more than $4.5 million to Hillarys campaign and her top super PAC, plus 11 lobbyists have bundled more than $1 million to put her in the White House.
In this campaign, Mr. Sanders and Martin O’Malley signed a pledge to refuse money from fossil fuel interests. No Republican added their name, which isn’t surprising given that they don’t believe climate change is real. But neither did Hillary Clinton."
The link below lists nations, and their carbon dioxide emissions.
The U. S. is second, after China, and Hillary takes millions from these destroyers of our future, while telling us she does not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
Is Hillary Clinton the person we want as our President, in this critical time in the history of our planet. I believe not.
"During a campaign stop and fundraiser in New York yesterday, Hillary Clinton was asked by a young woman if she’d stop taking money from the fossil fuel industry. It was a simple question, one she could have easily answered with a "yes," or, perhaps because of the way she funds her campaign, responded with a "no."
Instead, she said she was "sick of the Sanders campaign lying" about donations she receives.
Here’s the truth, the hard numbers don’t lie. And it’s something everyone should know as this video spreads online and is covered in the news: The fossil fuel industry has given more than $4.5 million to Hillarys campaign and her top super PAC, plus 11 lobbyists have bundled more than $1 million to put her in the White House.
In this campaign, Mr. Sanders and Martin O’Malley signed a pledge to refuse money from fossil fuel interests. No Republican added their name, which isn’t surprising given that they don’t believe climate change is real. But neither did Hillary Clinton."
The link below lists nations, and their carbon dioxide emissions.
The U. S. is second, after China, and Hillary takes millions from these destroyers of our future, while telling us she does not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions
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Amy Goodman from Democracy Now! was interviewing Rosario Dawson after the rally, last night. I look forward to seeing and reading about it on that website.
4-1-16@10:20 pm
4-1-16@10:20 pm
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The first thing Brooklyn Bernie needs to learn about New York is that it is a STATE, well over half of which is not NYC. Hillary was the only NYS senator since the great lamented Kenneth Keating who could tell Schenectady from Syracuse. Given what she said today in Syracuse, she still can.
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"How DARE he talk TRUTH to power!"
"If he won't change his tone and heel, then OFF with his head!"
I hope Bernie is prepared for the Royal Clinton attack machine (which is present here clearly and includes throwing bombshell lies and worse.)
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they F I G H T you, then you win." Ghandi
The so called democratic party is in severe denial about the division in the party and the yelling episode at a young activist and then arrogant dismissive attitude at her rally show how divisive she naturally is..show who she naturally is...
"If he won't change his tone and heel, then OFF with his head!"
I hope Bernie is prepared for the Royal Clinton attack machine (which is present here clearly and includes throwing bombshell lies and worse.)
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they F I G H T you, then you win." Ghandi
The so called democratic party is in severe denial about the division in the party and the yelling episode at a young activist and then arrogant dismissive attitude at her rally show how divisive she naturally is..show who she naturally is...
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I remember reading an article in The Weekly Standard (I like to read right-wing comment, I often find it informative, even if nauseating) some time in the 1990s where they polled some thousands of Americans and asked two questions…
Q1: Are you in the top 1% wealthy in America?
Q2: Are you now, will you one day be, or will your children one day be in the top 1% wealthy in America?
The response to Q1 was 20% in the affirmative, and the response to Q2 was 40% in the affirmative…
I'll never forget that poll, because for me it explains ALOT…
Any progressive candidate who mentions raising taxes on the mega wealthy top 1%, is immediately perceived by 40% of the country as a direct threat against themselves and their children…
Until we can manage to deliver ourselves from THAT ball and chain, we will continue to be in deep doo-doo…
Similarly here, as Bernie rails against corruption and dirty money in politics, the people who support Clinton don’t care about these things, and so the more polemic the dialog, the more defensive Clinton’s supporters get. They are personally corrupt and don’t like being called out on it. That isn’t all of her supporters of course, there are also many who are sadly just ignorant.
My 2¢
Q1: Are you in the top 1% wealthy in America?
Q2: Are you now, will you one day be, or will your children one day be in the top 1% wealthy in America?
The response to Q1 was 20% in the affirmative, and the response to Q2 was 40% in the affirmative…
I'll never forget that poll, because for me it explains ALOT…
Any progressive candidate who mentions raising taxes on the mega wealthy top 1%, is immediately perceived by 40% of the country as a direct threat against themselves and their children…
Until we can manage to deliver ourselves from THAT ball and chain, we will continue to be in deep doo-doo…
Similarly here, as Bernie rails against corruption and dirty money in politics, the people who support Clinton don’t care about these things, and so the more polemic the dialog, the more defensive Clinton’s supporters get. They are personally corrupt and don’t like being called out on it. That isn’t all of her supporters of course, there are also many who are sadly just ignorant.
My 2¢
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You have made a common mistake among non-scientists. Just because 40% of the readers of The Weekly Standard are opposed to raising taxes does not mean that 40% of Americans are opposed to raising taxes for the right cause.
For starters, The Weekly Standard readers do not reflect a demographically balanced segment of the American voters. Most of the readers of The American Standard may be drawn from the 1% for whom Bernie's additional taxes are intended.
Americans are statistically illiterate as a group, so don't feel singled out.
For starters, The Weekly Standard readers do not reflect a demographically balanced segment of the American voters. Most of the readers of The American Standard may be drawn from the 1% for whom Bernie's additional taxes are intended.
Americans are statistically illiterate as a group, so don't feel singled out.
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Insightful.
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Sam Spade,
Worth a whole lot more than two cents; thank you.
Worth a whole lot more than two cents; thank you.
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Bernie Sanders is so dishonest,the way he continues to accuse Hillary Clinton of accepting PAC $$$$ from the fossil fuel industry. It's a lie and he knows it but knows he can get some mileage out of it. Kind of an innuendo drive-by shooting.
And how reprehensible is it how he preys on those Millennials who weren't too smart in the first place as they ran up all that student loan debt. He keeps mining them like they're his own Cash Machine.
And how come there's never any mention of how Vermont is this tax shelter for small Insurance Companies. They're called Captive Insurance Companies and just added their 1,000th company to enlist Vermont's help for looser regulations and tax breaks. For years, Vermont's been this On-shore tax haven, just like in the Cayman Islands. But they provide jobs, so it's ok. As if these gazillioinaires need any more help. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
And I wonder how many of these types are sending Mr. Sanders campaign donations. How about telling us how much $$$$$ has been donated from individuals associated with these Captive Insurance Companie?. Mr. Sanders accuses Hillary of accepting money from the fossil fuel industry at least ten times a day. Well lets hear how much Mr. Sanders has received from the Insurance Industry. This is relevant, considering how often Sanders rants about Hillary receiving money from big business.
And how reprehensible is it how he preys on those Millennials who weren't too smart in the first place as they ran up all that student loan debt. He keeps mining them like they're his own Cash Machine.
And how come there's never any mention of how Vermont is this tax shelter for small Insurance Companies. They're called Captive Insurance Companies and just added their 1,000th company to enlist Vermont's help for looser regulations and tax breaks. For years, Vermont's been this On-shore tax haven, just like in the Cayman Islands. But they provide jobs, so it's ok. As if these gazillioinaires need any more help. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
And I wonder how many of these types are sending Mr. Sanders campaign donations. How about telling us how much $$$$$ has been donated from individuals associated with these Captive Insurance Companie?. Mr. Sanders accuses Hillary of accepting money from the fossil fuel industry at least ten times a day. Well lets hear how much Mr. Sanders has received from the Insurance Industry. This is relevant, considering how often Sanders rants about Hillary receiving money from big business.
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@merc,
Could you please tell me what your sources are for your information? No disrespect intended. Some people can be, er, uncivil to others who disagree with their opinions. I'm not here for that and I trust that you aren't either. I'd really like to know more of what you're talking about, including where you learned about this. Thanks in advance.
4-1-16@10:18 pm
Could you please tell me what your sources are for your information? No disrespect intended. Some people can be, er, uncivil to others who disagree with their opinions. I'm not here for that and I trust that you aren't either. I'd really like to know more of what you're talking about, including where you learned about this. Thanks in advance.
4-1-16@10:18 pm
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Hillary supports fracking "where it doesn't do any environmental damage) which is an absurd statement because there is no place where it does not do environmental damage. She has received many contributions from the fossil fuel industry, starting in Arkansas. You can confirm this yourself on Google.
Bernie is flatly opposed to fracking and as a result does not receive any contributions from the fossil fuel industry. He is also for closing coal mines.
Their politicies on energy use and extraction and global warmin just happens to be one of the real concrete differences between the two candidates so it would be helpful if you would get your facts straight before you claim that Hillary is being unfairly criticized over her record with the fossil fuel industry.
Bernie is flatly opposed to fracking and as a result does not receive any contributions from the fossil fuel industry. He is also for closing coal mines.
Their politicies on energy use and extraction and global warmin just happens to be one of the real concrete differences between the two candidates so it would be helpful if you would get your facts straight before you claim that Hillary is being unfairly criticized over her record with the fossil fuel industry.
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A captive insurance company is approved by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners as an appropriate recognition that reserves set for life insurance are economically redundant and you can use captives to finance these redundant reserves - there is nothing wrong with this practice.
Once established the captive operates like any commercial insurance company and are subject to state regulatory requirements including reporting, capital and reserve requirements
In fact, this is better than corporations stashing money offshore.
Big money donations = 0
He doesn't prey on millenials...he gives them hope and honesty - something missing from our politicians.
Once established the captive operates like any commercial insurance company and are subject to state regulatory requirements including reporting, capital and reserve requirements
In fact, this is better than corporations stashing money offshore.
Big money donations = 0
He doesn't prey on millenials...he gives them hope and honesty - something missing from our politicians.
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Sanders promises nothing, except for a paradigm shift in our political will. He can't keep promises, because it's up to us to make that paradigm shift a reality.
If ever there was a time for a shift in our political will, it is now. Global warming is already threatening coastal areas where millions of people live. Our power grid is antiquated and fragile. Our infrastructure is a joke to the rest of the world. 30 million people don't have health insurance. Go to college, leave with mortgage sized debt. Wall Street is still selling bundled junk to it's clients, and betting that that junk will fail-- essentially betting against their own clients. It's not a matter of if we have another global recession, it's when.
In 2014 the Washington Post published an article citing UNICEF's claim that 1 out of every 3 children in America, the wealthiest country in the world, live in poverty. Let that sink in for a minute.
We've got so any problems maybe we just don't know where to start. No one seems to be addressing them, so maybe we give up, and hope no one takes our guns or our cable TV or our job.
Bernie Sanders is asking us to demand more than hope for change. He's asking each us to actively stake a claim in our future. Stake a claim in our children's future, our country's future, by hacking away at these monumental problems. And a paradigm shift in our political will, laser focused on a better future, is the only game in town.
If ever there was a time for a shift in our political will, it is now. Global warming is already threatening coastal areas where millions of people live. Our power grid is antiquated and fragile. Our infrastructure is a joke to the rest of the world. 30 million people don't have health insurance. Go to college, leave with mortgage sized debt. Wall Street is still selling bundled junk to it's clients, and betting that that junk will fail-- essentially betting against their own clients. It's not a matter of if we have another global recession, it's when.
In 2014 the Washington Post published an article citing UNICEF's claim that 1 out of every 3 children in America, the wealthiest country in the world, live in poverty. Let that sink in for a minute.
We've got so any problems maybe we just don't know where to start. No one seems to be addressing them, so maybe we give up, and hope no one takes our guns or our cable TV or our job.
Bernie Sanders is asking us to demand more than hope for change. He's asking each us to actively stake a claim in our future. Stake a claim in our children's future, our country's future, by hacking away at these monumental problems. And a paradigm shift in our political will, laser focused on a better future, is the only game in town.
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Bernie and Donald are the same. They thrive on fear and anger mongering. Talk is cheap and walk is hard. During his 30 years in Congress, he was only able to pass three bills showing his incompetence in legislature. All the big talks are worthless and the math does not match up. Most importantly, they would never pass thru Congress. So, why do we waste our vote for a big talker whose only ambition is to manipulate us to vote for him. He would be the worst President in US history. Alas, people don't see his true color and falling for his manipulation as Donald is doing on the other side. Pity on those falling for his "revolution" talk which would never happen.
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These are just some of his accomplishments. Please consider - Sanders is much better than Trump - He beats Trump by a bigger margin than Mrs. Clinton - please vote for him.
Standing up against the major pharmaceutical companies, Sanders becomes the first member of Congress to take seniors across the border to Canada to buy lower-cost prescription drugs. The congressman continues his bus trips to Canada with a group of breast cancer patients the following April. These women are able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price charged in the States.
Sanders' authored energy efficiency and conservation grant program passes into law. He later secures $3.2 billion in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 for the grant program.
Sanders works with Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley to pass an amendment to an economic recovery bill preventing Wall Street banks that take taxpayer bailouts from replacing laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.
~Sanders works with Republican Congressman Ron Paul in the House to pass a measure as part of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform bill to audit the Federal Reserve....
Standing up against the major pharmaceutical companies, Sanders becomes the first member of Congress to take seniors across the border to Canada to buy lower-cost prescription drugs. The congressman continues his bus trips to Canada with a group of breast cancer patients the following April. These women are able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price charged in the States.
Sanders' authored energy efficiency and conservation grant program passes into law. He later secures $3.2 billion in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 for the grant program.
Sanders works with Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley to pass an amendment to an economic recovery bill preventing Wall Street banks that take taxpayer bailouts from replacing laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.
~Sanders works with Republican Congressman Ron Paul in the House to pass a measure as part of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform bill to audit the Federal Reserve....
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I just saw on today’s (4-1-16) News Hour that Mark Shields gave numbers on the Fossil Fuel Donations that differed quite significantly from the following numbers provided below by the Sanders’ campaign. Mark Shields concluded that Bernie Sanders was on the wrong side of this credibility issue. It should be easy enough for Mark Shields to determine the truth with the resources available to him.
New York Times reported today (April 1) in the First Draft column in a story entitled “Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders Spar Over Fossil Fuel Donations” by Amy Chozick and Yamiche Alcindor the following:
Jeff Weaver, Mr. Sanders’s campaign manager, said in a statement that it was “disappointing” that Mrs. Clinton has accused Mr. Sanders’s staff of lying on the issue of fossil fuel industry donations. “Fifty-seven lobbyists from the industry have personally given to her campaign and 11 of those lobbyists have bundled more than $1 million to help put her in the White House,” he said.
“If you include money given to super PACs backing Clinton, the fossil fuel industry has given more than $4.5 million in support of Clinton’s bid,” Mr. Weaver said.
The truth is important.
New York Times reported today (April 1) in the First Draft column in a story entitled “Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders Spar Over Fossil Fuel Donations” by Amy Chozick and Yamiche Alcindor the following:
Jeff Weaver, Mr. Sanders’s campaign manager, said in a statement that it was “disappointing” that Mrs. Clinton has accused Mr. Sanders’s staff of lying on the issue of fossil fuel industry donations. “Fifty-seven lobbyists from the industry have personally given to her campaign and 11 of those lobbyists have bundled more than $1 million to help put her in the White House,” he said.
“If you include money given to super PACs backing Clinton, the fossil fuel industry has given more than $4.5 million in support of Clinton’s bid,” Mr. Weaver said.
The truth is important.
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This is more accurate: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-...
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Those NYers that discount Mr. Sander's candidacy in favor of Mrs. Clinton should take serious pause and engage in some quiet reflection. Mr. Sanders is not the darling of Wall Street like the secretary. The secretary refuses to release the transcripts of the 250K per hour "speeches" that she gave to the Goldmin Sachs cronies. Why? I was born at night but not last night. The secretary is being investigated by the FBi and is on the verge of being named a target for indictment. I know from indictment. They are not good. Bernie is Brooklyn born and bred like Neil Diamond. No scandals. No nothing. What you see is what you get. Hillary is as NY as pizza with a knife and fork. Sorry. I feel the Bern.
Reading the comments here truly depresses me. The Bernheads repeat every canard about Clinton that Fox watchers do, without any sense of irony that they're spouting stories promoted for more than two decades by right-wing "think" tanks and media. And apparently, like Bernie himself, they have absolutely no interest in making alliances with other Democrats at the federal and state level, condemning Mrs. Clinton for raising money on behalf of the DNC, which will help elect other Democrats, as "selling out" and "buying friends" and "quid pro quo." Yet Bernie, after 34 years in Washington, can name at best five or six members of the House and Senate who support him: he has few allies who will help him get anything done if he is elected.
After three decades of deliberately refusing to join the Democratic Party he now wants the Democratic Party to give him 100% support, even to the point of fantasizing that the super-delegates will suddenly turn to him as their savior: the "new FDR."
Reality check: having survived 25 years of smear campaigns by the Kochs, the Rutherford Institute, Heritage Foundation, and the rest of the right, Hillary is still standing and still fighting. (Watch the 11-hour Gowdy grilling.) Polls showing Bernie as a stronger candidate reflect only the fact that the right-wing hate machine has not aimed a BB gun, much less its full artillery, against the "one-issue Socialist from Vermont." When they do, his general election campaign will go down in flames.
After three decades of deliberately refusing to join the Democratic Party he now wants the Democratic Party to give him 100% support, even to the point of fantasizing that the super-delegates will suddenly turn to him as their savior: the "new FDR."
Reality check: having survived 25 years of smear campaigns by the Kochs, the Rutherford Institute, Heritage Foundation, and the rest of the right, Hillary is still standing and still fighting. (Watch the 11-hour Gowdy grilling.) Polls showing Bernie as a stronger candidate reflect only the fact that the right-wing hate machine has not aimed a BB gun, much less its full artillery, against the "one-issue Socialist from Vermont." When they do, his general election campaign will go down in flames.
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Nonsense. Just because Fox News actually repeats a negative story about the Clintons more than once, doesn't mean it's not true nor that people who care about honesty in government shouldn't pay attention. The only reason she survives "smear" campaigns is because the mainstream media enables her. If she had an R after her name in fact, it wouldn't just be Fox beating the stories into the ground.
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Perhaps if Reedroid1 will compare Hillary's platform with Bernie's, she will see the real differences between the two candidates and how they differ from each other. Then may will be able to recommend Clinton rather than merely characterizing Sanders supporters derisively as stupid Bernheads. I don't listen to Fox, I don't repeat every Clinton "canard" (are you sure that's what you mean?) about her. I look at what she says and does, what her platform is, where she and Bernie agree, and where they differ.
Hillary Clinton has many admirable characteristics including fortitude, but she lacks a program to correct the deep structural problems in the American economy which are forcing more people to work longer hours for less money. She is on the right side of many issues, which will enable me to vote for her in November over the Republican candidate. But she is just more of the same as we have had for the past 24 years - since her husband Bill was elected President in 1992. I am not stupid nor critical of Hillary supporters - I can understand their support of her. But she fails to measure up on the critical issue of redirecting America from the increasing gap between the super rich and the middle class. To call Bernie Sanders a single issue candidate suggests that you have not really listened to what he says. He agrees with many of Clinton's positions including the rights of women and minorities, but there are significant critical differences between them over the economy.
Hillary Clinton has many admirable characteristics including fortitude, but she lacks a program to correct the deep structural problems in the American economy which are forcing more people to work longer hours for less money. She is on the right side of many issues, which will enable me to vote for her in November over the Republican candidate. But she is just more of the same as we have had for the past 24 years - since her husband Bill was elected President in 1992. I am not stupid nor critical of Hillary supporters - I can understand their support of her. But she fails to measure up on the critical issue of redirecting America from the increasing gap between the super rich and the middle class. To call Bernie Sanders a single issue candidate suggests that you have not really listened to what he says. He agrees with many of Clinton's positions including the rights of women and minorities, but there are significant critical differences between them over the economy.
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I'm a Canadian who spent a few years in the US, and learned about the Clinton's dealings. It's really not that difficult to learn, if you sift through the net...the facts are there.
Also Bernie is not a one issue candidate as the Hillary's camp has labelled him. The main issue that Bernie has been saying for years is one of the main problems that added $12+ trillion to the US debt (billionaire bailouts and subsidies...Wall Street, big banks, large industries that used the money to pay their shareholders, instead of saving jobs for Americans). Bernie has always mentioned the one sided trade agreements (NAFTA) which were created to support big company interests and not the American working class people. The Clinton's were the ones that pushed this through, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Here is a compilation of interviews that point out her changing stances that should open your eyes to what her real motives are. (Hint...Money and power) ....(Just use Google to search for these video titles....if I post links this post will be deleted.)
Regards.
Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight. (Youtube)
Hillary: "Name one time I changed due to Wall Street money." Elizabeth Warren: “Okay, allow me." (Youtube)
Hillary Clinton in Black History (Youtube)
Also Bernie is not a one issue candidate as the Hillary's camp has labelled him. The main issue that Bernie has been saying for years is one of the main problems that added $12+ trillion to the US debt (billionaire bailouts and subsidies...Wall Street, big banks, large industries that used the money to pay their shareholders, instead of saving jobs for Americans). Bernie has always mentioned the one sided trade agreements (NAFTA) which were created to support big company interests and not the American working class people. The Clinton's were the ones that pushed this through, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Here is a compilation of interviews that point out her changing stances that should open your eyes to what her real motives are. (Hint...Money and power) ....(Just use Google to search for these video titles....if I post links this post will be deleted.)
Regards.
Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight. (Youtube)
Hillary: "Name one time I changed due to Wall Street money." Elizabeth Warren: “Okay, allow me." (Youtube)
Hillary Clinton in Black History (Youtube)
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In his endorsement of Bernie Sanders, Dick Van Dyke calls him a "New Deal Democrat"—putting him in the same category as Franklin D. Roosevelt, one of the greatest and most-loved New Yorkers of all time. Bernie talks the talk AND walks the walk! Indeed, my 79-year-old mother from New York remembers FDR with awe, and feels the same about Bernie. She tells me there's no doubt in her mind that he deserves the home state advantage in New York.
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If true it is annoying. He ran from Brooklyn as soon as he could and denies any ties. Now that he wants to win the primary he plays that he is a Brooklynite. More like Crooklyite....Bernie go back to Vermont and retire, pahleeeze.
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Last I checked you could move America was a free country with options to move anywhere. And that is how, Mrs. Clinton with her $675,000 per year for 3 speeches (whose transcripts she will not release) could afford to move to a nice neighborhood
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@Pat,
If you and some others are annoyed, that's unfortunate. Many of us aren't.
Bernie, not to worry. As you could see and hear from last night, Pat doesn't speak for all of us. Bernie, a whole lot of us are happy that you and your family are here. A little birdie told me: there's a march planned for you in Manhattan on April 16, 2016, just before primary. And that's no April Fools's Day joke. It's real, just like you. Hope to see you there.
Bern baby Bern!! ; )
4-1-16@11:09 pm
If you and some others are annoyed, that's unfortunate. Many of us aren't.
Bernie, not to worry. As you could see and hear from last night, Pat doesn't speak for all of us. Bernie, a whole lot of us are happy that you and your family are here. A little birdie told me: there's a march planned for you in Manhattan on April 16, 2016, just before primary. And that's no April Fools's Day joke. It's real, just like you. Hope to see you there.
Bern baby Bern!! ; )
4-1-16@11:09 pm
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This title is grossly misleading. Since Sanders is from New England and born in NY, Sanders roots are a reminder who the "real" New Englander is, not the Faux implant one their to get a grab at office by making a strategic move. Now on the the real issues please. Bernie seeks to win New York by campaigning on the same targeted issues he has stood for for 30 years. Unlike Hillary who flips and flops, not by growth and changing her mind as she claims, granted maybe one or two shifts came out of that, but by pandering to the highest bidder. She has not run a campaign for "we the people" backed mostly by the people. She owes a lot to those who have funded her. So does Bernie Sanders. I'll go with the one who owes it to "we the people."
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Interesting. If Clinton gets vote she's"pandering", or "shilling", or has "been funded", "bought" or "making a strategic move".
Ever think that people may vote for her because they've made the choice??? This is AMERICA. Freedom of choice is still allowed.
And don't tell me that Bernie Sanders is for the people, when he can't even get the support of ALL the people. Oh please.
Ever think that people may vote for her because they've made the choice??? This is AMERICA. Freedom of choice is still allowed.
And don't tell me that Bernie Sanders is for the people, when he can't even get the support of ALL the people. Oh please.
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Hillary has the support of Big Banks, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Oil, Goldman Sachs and all her other buddies on Wall Street.
Bernie has the support of the people -- and the more people hear him, the more people support him.
Bernie has the support of the people -- and the more people hear him, the more people support him.
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@N. Smith,
You're correct. Some vote for her because they prefer her. Others vote for Sanders because they prefer him. However, you're a little premature about ALL of the people, however because some states haven't voted yet, regardless of whom they prefer.
What of those who've had problems with voter registration, i.e., misdirection, forms "missing" and therefore not counted at various boards of elections, etc.?
That's also America--unfortunately.
4-1-16@6:24 pm
You're correct. Some vote for her because they prefer her. Others vote for Sanders because they prefer him. However, you're a little premature about ALL of the people, however because some states haven't voted yet, regardless of whom they prefer.
What of those who've had problems with voter registration, i.e., misdirection, forms "missing" and therefore not counted at various boards of elections, etc.?
That's also America--unfortunately.
4-1-16@6:24 pm
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I cannot believe the number of commenters here who continue to disparage the Bernie supporters and say they are having temper tantrums and are childish, etc.
What do you call a 69 year old ruthless woman who stomps her foot and says "Its MY turn, Its my turn!" and all those who selfishly support her just because she is a woman and has focused solely on gaining power for herself and the wealthy for DECADES?
I know I am an oldie Bernie supporter and I do not watch fox news to form my opinions, it is decades of living under the rule of the oligarchs and their deep corrupt roots thicker each passing year strangling our democracy.
ENOUGH! Both parties are seriously SICK and in need of rebuilding, Trump is tearing down the republican party (helping hill, there may be truth to that conspiracy after all given the fear mongering and play off his ludicrous commentary) and BERNIE is RECLAIMING the democratic party for what it was before Clinton: party for the majority of the people, as the founders intended.
What do you call a 69 year old ruthless woman who stomps her foot and says "Its MY turn, Its my turn!" and all those who selfishly support her just because she is a woman and has focused solely on gaining power for herself and the wealthy for DECADES?
I know I am an oldie Bernie supporter and I do not watch fox news to form my opinions, it is decades of living under the rule of the oligarchs and their deep corrupt roots thicker each passing year strangling our democracy.
ENOUGH! Both parties are seriously SICK and in need of rebuilding, Trump is tearing down the republican party (helping hill, there may be truth to that conspiracy after all given the fear mongering and play off his ludicrous commentary) and BERNIE is RECLAIMING the democratic party for what it was before Clinton: party for the majority of the people, as the founders intended.
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Jane For Truth,
My sentiments entirely, and I'm 100% positive every Bernie supporter agrees with you.
And with respect to your question -
"What do you call a 69 year old ruthless woman who stomps her foot and says "Its MY turn, Its my turn!" and all those who selfishly support her just because she is a woman and has focused solely on gaining power for herself and the wealthy for DECADES?"
She is a self-serving charlatan, who somehow or other, has the gall to believe she may still be able to fool honest hardworking Americans, who know only too well what she is all about, which of course is about power, more power, and still more power, and of course lots and lots of those $250,000 checks, from Big Business, (Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Oh, and lets not forget Big Oil).
Every one of these business, through Superpacs, successfully get tens of millions of dollars into her already overflowing treasure chests, and, wait for it, ready for this goodie ??
Because They Like Her !!!, Stamping feet, Insincere persona, and don't forget the Screaming, and all, which really gives me a headache.
I can't wait for Bernie to be nominated, and sworn in next January, as our 45th., President, the first President of the people, for the people, in five (5) decades.
FDR is reborn !!!
My sentiments entirely, and I'm 100% positive every Bernie supporter agrees with you.
And with respect to your question -
"What do you call a 69 year old ruthless woman who stomps her foot and says "Its MY turn, Its my turn!" and all those who selfishly support her just because she is a woman and has focused solely on gaining power for herself and the wealthy for DECADES?"
She is a self-serving charlatan, who somehow or other, has the gall to believe she may still be able to fool honest hardworking Americans, who know only too well what she is all about, which of course is about power, more power, and still more power, and of course lots and lots of those $250,000 checks, from Big Business, (Big Banking, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Oh, and lets not forget Big Oil).
Every one of these business, through Superpacs, successfully get tens of millions of dollars into her already overflowing treasure chests, and, wait for it, ready for this goodie ??
Because They Like Her !!!, Stamping feet, Insincere persona, and don't forget the Screaming, and all, which really gives me a headache.
I can't wait for Bernie to be nominated, and sworn in next January, as our 45th., President, the first President of the people, for the people, in five (5) decades.
FDR is reborn !!!
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"ruthless woman" - good to know in 2016 an ambitious, determined woman is "ruthless" and diabolical. I assume you would call Sanders or Trump driven.
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Mel Farrell - I love the way you put your opinion and could not agree with you more about Hillary Clinton. Bernie does indeed channel Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He is even more similar to Harry Truman - who came from a poor but hard working background, worked hard as a local elected official in Missouri (another backwater at the time - like Vermont today) and then went on (like Bernie) to have a distinguished career and be a highly regarded legislator in the US House and Senate. Like Bernie, Harry worked across the aisle. Harry conceived and carried out the Marshall Plan to save Europe, restored the economy and paid off most of the WW2 debt, integrated the armed forces by fiat when most white people thought Blacks were inferior to whites and wouldn't even use the same drinking fountains. Harry ended WW2 decisively, saving many lives whether you agree with his decision to drop the atom bomb or not. I think it was the only thing he could do for an exhausted America which didn't want to sacrifice any more American lives that we had to. FDR came from wealth and privilege. Harry came from being poor - he wouldn't have called it poverty but it was having to work very hard, in his case, as a farmer - to put food on the table during the Great Depression. I can't believe a champion of the little guy has shown up again for the Democratic Party. I was sold when I heard him speak to the Commonwealth Club in January 2015 and the room was filled with cheering young Millenials. Go Bernie!
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We were there at St. Mary's Park in the Bronx last night and it was an inspiring scene. So many people and such a mixture of races, languages, ages and religions! It was a real microcosm of New York. We were also among the thousands waiting in the adjacent field, when Bernie stopped his car to talk to us before the main rally. The crowd was ecstatic. I hope the press is finally going to realize that the Bernie Sanders movement is a big story. It's not just about white men. It's not just about college students. There were a ton of working class Latinos who turned out for Bernie last night. Young mothers and fathers with their infants and toddlers. Grandmothers and grandfathers. There were lots of African Americans. Lots of regular folks from the Bronx.
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Mona,
The beginning of the end of corporate ownership of our government, and by extension, our lives, our future, and our children's future is here.
Let's all help Bernie bring it on !!!
The beginning of the end of corporate ownership of our government, and by extension, our lives, our future, and our children's future is here.
Let's all help Bernie bring it on !!!
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Mona, yes, let's all help Bernie bring it on - he wins big in New York then, believe me, out here in California we can't wait to vote for him....both states are yuge in terms of delegates and will put him over the top!
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I am Brooklyn born and bred as are my adult children and my father was an immigrant. We are all college graduates and none of us speak like Bernie so I wish that he would cut his Brooklyn roots conversation because he left here a long time ago. He is not a member of the Democratic party and has contributed nothing to the party so I wish that he would drop the word Democrat from Democrat Socialist. The Clintons have done more for the Democratic party and NY State than BS so he shouldn't expect the party to give him their voters' lists or assistance in his campaign.
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The Democratic part of the term Democratic Socialist is appropriate because there actually is such a thing. Google is your friend.
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As far as I am concerned, the Clintons have destroyed the Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders is a New Deal Democrat -- and that is what I am, and what Hillary Clinton is not.
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Bernie is the best presidential candidate you'll see in a lifetime, Hillary is the first shot at a woman president, despite all her many many flaws.... I hear Hillary and Bill are back to their home state of NY (just kidding) to meet with their good old friends and fundraise. Do you Clinton fans know that both Hillary and Bill have been enriching themselves at the expense of national security, making dirty deals with the russians by selling them large shares of US uranium ressources? Bill received over 32 millions dollars from this deal (Uranium one), yet according to the NYT: "Before Mrs. Clinton could assume her post as secretary of state, the White House demanded that she sign a memorandum of understanding placing limits on the activities of her husband’s foundation. the foundation was required to publicly disclose all contributors.
To judge from those disclosures — which list the contributions in ranges rather than precise amounts — the only Uranium One official to give to the Clinton Foundation was Mr. Telfer, the chairman, and the amount was relatively small: no more than $250,000, and that was in 2007, before talk of a Rosatom deal began percolating."
I guess when Hillary is not reading government confidential emails on her private server, she is allowing her husband to make secret deals with the russians against millions. Is that the candidate you support? Talk about a national security hazard. Hillary does not get my vote!
To judge from those disclosures — which list the contributions in ranges rather than precise amounts — the only Uranium One official to give to the Clinton Foundation was Mr. Telfer, the chairman, and the amount was relatively small: no more than $250,000, and that was in 2007, before talk of a Rosatom deal began percolating."
I guess when Hillary is not reading government confidential emails on her private server, she is allowing her husband to make secret deals with the russians against millions. Is that the candidate you support? Talk about a national security hazard. Hillary does not get my vote!
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Hillary wouldn't be a bad president. Compared to the Republicans she looks great. But Sanders is offering the combination of policy and personality that this country needs right now. Compared to Bernie, Hillary looks downright Trumpy.
I don't say that in a mean-spirited Bernie-Bro fashion. It's just reality. No surprise that Hillary doesn't want a New York debate before the primary: the more people see of Bernie, the more they like him. The opposite is true of her. It's both personality and policy. Bernie is a genuinely likable person who happens to have the right policy for the times. What's not to love?
I don't say that in a mean-spirited Bernie-Bro fashion. It's just reality. No surprise that Hillary doesn't want a New York debate before the primary: the more people see of Bernie, the more they like him. The opposite is true of her. It's both personality and policy. Bernie is a genuinely likable person who happens to have the right policy for the times. What's not to love?
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You might want to ask the senators who know him from working with him for 25 years. None have endorsed him, last I checked. Of the $ Hillary has raised, she's given over $30 million to other democratic races. Bernie has given zero out of the $ he's raised. So that's his loyalty showing, and another reason why the supers won't be switching. You need help to get programs through, and without other dems, you get a bunch of nothing done.
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Ask his staffers too. I know one who has described him as a "kook" and a "jerk." I also don't see how people find him likeable. I watch him on t.v. and see a very grumpy old man. He's an iconoclast which some may find refreshing but not someone who can get things done in the real political world. I also find some of the demonizing of Hillary on the part of Bernie supporters very offensive and sometimes sexist.
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How much will Clinton "get done" with Republican opposition? Drop the "grumpy old man iconoclast" stereotyping and think.
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This is all a battle for the soul of the Democratic party, as well as America.
The headlines below this indicate that the Clintons rallied their "friends", which includes the establishment, the rich, and the elite. If that is the kind of people they want to surround themselves, so be it.
Bernie has proved he is a man of the people - we love him, and kudos to him!
#FeelTheBern
The headlines below this indicate that the Clintons rallied their "friends", which includes the establishment, the rich, and the elite. If that is the kind of people they want to surround themselves, so be it.
Bernie has proved he is a man of the people - we love him, and kudos to him!
#FeelTheBern
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How has he proved that "he is a man of the people", when he doesn't have the support of the African-American and "Minority" communities ???
Doing well in states with less racial diversity doesn't account for all "the people".
Doing well in states with less racial diversity doesn't account for all "the people".
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N. Smith: admittedly Sanders forgot to start lacing, 15 years ago, his every sentence with "y'all" to convince black voters he's on their side, and Hillary managed to glean millions of black supporters by that ploy, but many influential black cultural leaders including Spike Lee, Cornel West, and others have come out to support "Brother Bernie," as they call him.
I can't see how blacks are not remembering and honoring the civil rights struggle, opting onstead for a neocon who with her husband have helped exacerbate and support the skyrocketing inequality and increasing dominance of Wall Street over our lives.
Charles Blow calls it disingenuous to expect blacks to flock to Bernie, as most blacks have fared relatively better under Clinton policies. However, viewing todays's civil rights struggle through a strict "who's been delivering for blacks" prism (as Blow encourages) suggests the civil rights struggle failed to the extent it failed to inspire blacks to look beyond raise to broader view of today's issues. Falling lockstep into automatic Hillary support is a betrayal of Dr. King and his quest. Kudos to blacks who take the broader view, thinking not just as blacks, but as Americans, fairness and justice seeking ones.
I can't see how blacks are not remembering and honoring the civil rights struggle, opting onstead for a neocon who with her husband have helped exacerbate and support the skyrocketing inequality and increasing dominance of Wall Street over our lives.
Charles Blow calls it disingenuous to expect blacks to flock to Bernie, as most blacks have fared relatively better under Clinton policies. However, viewing todays's civil rights struggle through a strict "who's been delivering for blacks" prism (as Blow encourages) suggests the civil rights struggle failed to the extent it failed to inspire blacks to look beyond raise to broader view of today's issues. Falling lockstep into automatic Hillary support is a betrayal of Dr. King and his quest. Kudos to blacks who take the broader view, thinking not just as blacks, but as Americans, fairness and justice seeking ones.
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Slowly but surely he is winning the support of Latinos and Blacks. 18,00 at the rally in the South Bronx last night. The majority of young people -- of all colors -- support Bernie Sanders.
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People are quick to dismiss “free” tuition and healthcare, but only because saying free is an oversimplification of more complicated issues. Promises made by Sanders about free tuition only include state schools and the free healthcare only means that it would be paid through taxes rather than direct individual payments.
There is little argument that medical costs are inflated in this country and I learned this while serving in the USAF.
We were provided medical care and if we needed specialized attention that could not be provided on base, we would see a specialist off-base covered through Tricare. Though we paid nothing for such services, I still saw the bill. It would say something like $1500 for a given procedure, but Tricare would only pay $200. Why the discrepancy? It is b/c the government is large enough that it had more bargaining power than the average joe. Therefore, when billed with an inflated price, Tricare simply pays what would be a fair price and refuses the inflated price. I believe Medicare does something similar. This story is meant to show that the costs of medicine are inflated in this country, and if the government were footing the bill through taxes instead, we would all have greater bargaining power and medical costs would actually fall to a rate more in line with reality.
I suspect “free” state tuition might provide a similar effect on private schools, as they would be forced to compete more seriously with state schools for students.
There is little argument that medical costs are inflated in this country and I learned this while serving in the USAF.
We were provided medical care and if we needed specialized attention that could not be provided on base, we would see a specialist off-base covered through Tricare. Though we paid nothing for such services, I still saw the bill. It would say something like $1500 for a given procedure, but Tricare would only pay $200. Why the discrepancy? It is b/c the government is large enough that it had more bargaining power than the average joe. Therefore, when billed with an inflated price, Tricare simply pays what would be a fair price and refuses the inflated price. I believe Medicare does something similar. This story is meant to show that the costs of medicine are inflated in this country, and if the government were footing the bill through taxes instead, we would all have greater bargaining power and medical costs would actually fall to a rate more in line with reality.
I suspect “free” state tuition might provide a similar effect on private schools, as they would be forced to compete more seriously with state schools for students.
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People are quick to dismiss “free” tuition and healthcare, but only because saying free is an oversimplification of more complicated issues. Promises made by Sanders about free tuition only include state schools and the free healthcare only means that it would be paid through taxes rather than direct individual payments.
There is little argument that medical costs are inflated in this country and I learned this while serving in the USAF.
We were provided medical care and if we needed specialized attention that could not be provided on base, we would see a specialist off-base covered through Tricare. Though we paid nothing for such services, I still saw the bill. It would say something like $1500 for a given procedure, but Tricare would only pay $200. Why the discrepancy? It is b/c the government is large enough that it had more bargaining power than the average joe. Therefore, when billed with an inflated price, Tricare simply pays what would be a fair price and refuses the inflated price. I believe Medicare does something similar. This story is meant to show that the costs of medicine are inflated in this country, and if the government were footing the bill through taxes instead, we would all have greater bargaining power and medical costs would actually fall to a rate more in line with reality.
I suspect “free” state tuition might provide a similar effect on private schools, as they would be forced to compete more seriously with state schools for students.
There is little argument that medical costs are inflated in this country and I learned this while serving in the USAF.
We were provided medical care and if we needed specialized attention that could not be provided on base, we would see a specialist off-base covered through Tricare. Though we paid nothing for such services, I still saw the bill. It would say something like $1500 for a given procedure, but Tricare would only pay $200. Why the discrepancy? It is b/c the government is large enough that it had more bargaining power than the average joe. Therefore, when billed with an inflated price, Tricare simply pays what would be a fair price and refuses the inflated price. I believe Medicare does something similar. This story is meant to show that the costs of medicine are inflated in this country, and if the government were footing the bill through taxes instead, we would all have greater bargaining power and medical costs would actually fall to a rate more in line with reality.
I suspect “free” state tuition might provide a similar effect on private schools, as they would be forced to compete more seriously with state schools for students.
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Thanks, Aaron for telling the truth, which is frowned by the .01%ters, who want the people to remain unaware, as they beggar them.
Bernies "Medicare for All" plan is simple; now retired, I pay an annual premium for all I need under Medicare, which I paid into through a payroll deduction during my working life, of less than $1,500 annually including prescription drugs, no deductibles, and minor co-payments of $5 or so for drugs.
My wife, not yet retired, unable to qualify for ACA, assistance, pays an annual premium of $18,000, with a deductible of $2,000. If she qualified for an ACA plan, she would still have annual deductibles of $5,000 to $6,500, meaning she first has to cough up that much cash before the policy works, and on top of that the premium is around $10,000 annually; INSANE !!
With Bernies plan, all Americans currently insured would be able to end their Big insurance premiums, ($10,000 to $18,000 annually), and receive a Medicare for all Policy, with individual premiums less than $1,500, to perhaps $5,000 annually for a family plan, run by government, no individual involvement with Big Insurance, minor payroll deductions, and many thousands of dollars saved each and every year to help families survive.
Who suffers; no one, except Big Insurance and Big Pharma, will now have to settle for few billion less in price gouged revenue, and people like Hillary will be stuck with lighter pocketbooks, but hey, surely they knew we would wise up sooner than later.
Bernies "Medicare for All" plan is simple; now retired, I pay an annual premium for all I need under Medicare, which I paid into through a payroll deduction during my working life, of less than $1,500 annually including prescription drugs, no deductibles, and minor co-payments of $5 or so for drugs.
My wife, not yet retired, unable to qualify for ACA, assistance, pays an annual premium of $18,000, with a deductible of $2,000. If she qualified for an ACA plan, she would still have annual deductibles of $5,000 to $6,500, meaning she first has to cough up that much cash before the policy works, and on top of that the premium is around $10,000 annually; INSANE !!
With Bernies plan, all Americans currently insured would be able to end their Big insurance premiums, ($10,000 to $18,000 annually), and receive a Medicare for all Policy, with individual premiums less than $1,500, to perhaps $5,000 annually for a family plan, run by government, no individual involvement with Big Insurance, minor payroll deductions, and many thousands of dollars saved each and every year to help families survive.
Who suffers; no one, except Big Insurance and Big Pharma, will now have to settle for few billion less in price gouged revenue, and people like Hillary will be stuck with lighter pocketbooks, but hey, surely they knew we would wise up sooner than later.
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Let us not forget the millions of people employed by the insurance companies. Very few private insurance companies would continue to exist in any form under a Medicare for All system. That may be what you and Bernie want, but that means those companies either close completely and all of their employees are out of jobs (most of them being regular working men and women) or they downsize massively, which also means millions losing their jobs. Where do you propose all of those people go to work?
Pete,
Will the Gov. not still need paper pushers to fulfil all the new Medi. patients?
So in your thinking we should keep using coal because we might put people out of work.
We need to keep the buggy whip folks employed because...???
C'mon! The American People are being scammed left and right. You wish to perpetuate the scam because those employed by said scam might not have their $$$ jobs anymore.??!!!
Yes, they will be displaced. Welcome to Capitalism. Welcome to the free market. Welcome to the modern age.
I can't believe you'd prefer people to continue paying for overpriced healthcare, if they can get it much less afford it, because an office wonk might have to find another job.
Guess it is time for them to polish up their resumes. Just like the rest of us. Hey, at least they will still have healthcare under the new system. Most of us wouldn't , would we.
Will the Gov. not still need paper pushers to fulfil all the new Medi. patients?
So in your thinking we should keep using coal because we might put people out of work.
We need to keep the buggy whip folks employed because...???
C'mon! The American People are being scammed left and right. You wish to perpetuate the scam because those employed by said scam might not have their $$$ jobs anymore.??!!!
Yes, they will be displaced. Welcome to Capitalism. Welcome to the free market. Welcome to the modern age.
I can't believe you'd prefer people to continue paying for overpriced healthcare, if they can get it much less afford it, because an office wonk might have to find another job.
Guess it is time for them to polish up their resumes. Just like the rest of us. Hey, at least they will still have healthcare under the new system. Most of us wouldn't , would we.
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I wish they would stop referring to New York as Clinton's home state. She was a senator here and moved here to run for the senate seat. I remember that at the time many New Yorkers were not too pleased with her moving here to make her home here to allow her to run for the senate. She is not a New Yorker and never will be. New York is Bernie Sanders home state and you can hear it with every word he utters!
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Grabbing at straws. Just because he sounds Brooklyn, doesn't mean he is Brooklyn. He isn't even a New York State resident. Get real.
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He was born and raised here. Sanders was and always will be a New Yorker. She came here via Illinois and Arkansas. New York for Hillary is just another stop on the way to the White House (or so she thinks).
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@lifelong
Sorry. Time to change the record. Stating the same thing repeatedly doesn't make it any more convincing.
Sorry. Time to change the record. Stating the same thing repeatedly doesn't make it any more convincing.
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I live in the Upper West Side and Sanders won't do well here. People here are looking for someone who gets things done, not someone who's all talk. Folk's here feel loyal to Clinton.
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If you on living in the Upper West Side and you haven't been in the same apartment for 30 years, you are in the upper 5% on incomes in America. So you are not among the folks who area working 40 hours a week and not earning a living wage. Those are the folks Bernie wants to help.
I appreciate your civility. Bernie has an uphill fight and he can't count on support from most people who are doing very well financially. I'm not sure how many voters this is. I think the growing gap between us haves and thoe havenots is ultimately threatening to our internal security. We can't keep on keeping so many people in jail rather than sending them to college. It's just bad long term planning. The change would be initially painful for people with substantial means to be taxed as they were during the Reagan administration, but ultimately, I think it would do much to smooth the relationships between classes in America.
I appreciate your civility. Bernie has an uphill fight and he can't count on support from most people who are doing very well financially. I'm not sure how many voters this is. I think the growing gap between us haves and thoe havenots is ultimately threatening to our internal security. We can't keep on keeping so many people in jail rather than sending them to college. It's just bad long term planning. The change would be initially painful for people with substantial means to be taxed as they were during the Reagan administration, but ultimately, I think it would do much to smooth the relationships between classes in America.
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I'm sure you can find a few people who feel that a carpetbagger who gets NOTHING done (except getting paid) isn't worth a vote.
And if your post is an indicator, I say you're way outnumbered by those folks who aren't as rich as you come off.
And if your post is an indicator, I say you're way outnumbered by those folks who aren't as rich as you come off.
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I'm not sure that's so across the board -- I live on the Upper West Side and I plan to vote for Sanders. Some of my friends will also.
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Bernie constantly yells about Hillary's fundraising and donors. What he doesn't say is that she is raising money for the DNC so that they can help other people in their races. He has given the DNC nothing and doesn't know if he will. I don't think he should expect too much from the DNC when he is not doing anything for them.
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The DNC has done nothing but put roadblocks in Sanders way and pretend that he barely exists.
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So their derailing of his campaign, their incessant demands that Clinton be crowned Queen President, and he OWES them?
What logic are you using?
What logic are you using?
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The DNC tries to sabotage him at every turn. I'm not donating to the DNC either, because what these neoliberals do to Sanders they do to us.
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Bernie is 74 years old, a big problem in my opinion. However, I am still feeling the Bern. Go Bernie!!!!
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Hillary is only 69 and she's a bigger problem. Go Bernie!!!!
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Jeez, I'm feeling a little sorry for Hillary, I mean just a little as I hate to see her hope of living once more in her "White House" evaporate, the same House that Bernie referred to as the "Peoples" House, when asked what he thought about living in the White House.
See, therein is very big part of the chasm that separates Bernie and Hillary, Hillary sees government as an entity that rules the people, for the benefit of the power elites, whereas Bernie believes with all his being, that government exists to serve the people, all of the people, all of the time, the guiding principles of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, which are both designed for all of the people.
See, therein is very big part of the chasm that separates Bernie and Hillary, Hillary sees government as an entity that rules the people, for the benefit of the power elites, whereas Bernie believes with all his being, that government exists to serve the people, all of the people, all of the time, the guiding principles of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, which are both designed for all of the people.
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To be quite honest, I'm feeling a little sorry for the people who make mean-spirited comments like this.
The age of intelligent discussion and debate is obviously dead. Replaced by tropes.
The age of intelligent discussion and debate is obviously dead. Replaced by tropes.
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I don't have much respect for the Sanders campaign to be honest. Telling people they will have free college and free healthcare paid for by wall street is not impressive, it's just telling people what they want to hear (although free college is a bad idea anyway). I have a lot more respect for the Clinton campaign which is basically Sanders-lite in that it makes college more affordable and makes healthcare more widely available. I also find some of the language and outright lies thrown at Clinton very low class, does nothing endear me to the Sanders camp at all.
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$74 Billion for that FREE college, said Sanders. And not one word about what that could do for our infrastructure. He would be almost 80 at the end of one term so therefore, sounds like a one-termer to me.
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Dave in Pittsburgh---I agree with you. But beware the Sanders supporters here. They will send a barrage of nonsense your way. They want their curmudgeonly candidate to win, even if it makes no sense. There is a real sense of entitlement to their rants, and it's made me turn against Bernie, even though I lived in Vermont for 10 years and both my children are Vermonters. Anyone who lies to young people and promises the moon just to get elected has an enormous ego, and the fact that their supporters don't see it, is simply unbelievable. They hear "free college tuition!" and believe him. It's myopic
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The total amount of tuition taken in by public colleges and universities in (I believe) 2012 was $62.6 billion. The total amount of federal aid to college students in the same year was just over that. So, tuition free college is absolutely doable and is in fact a no-brainer.
Single payer health care would be covered by higher taxes. Also a no brainer. You pay more in taxes and less in health premiums. There's no lying going on here, Dave.
People just need to realize that the ONLY reason we don't do these sensible things Sanders is proposing is politics. And that is what needs to be changed, starting with a real leader but growing from there.
Single payer health care would be covered by higher taxes. Also a no brainer. You pay more in taxes and less in health premiums. There's no lying going on here, Dave.
People just need to realize that the ONLY reason we don't do these sensible things Sanders is proposing is politics. And that is what needs to be changed, starting with a real leader but growing from there.
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Amazing crowd of nearly 20,000 in the Bronx last night, that's what America is all about! Bernie's message is certainly sticking to people's mind, because enough is enough of status quo politics and dirty money. When Hillary is not getting big pay checks from Wall St., she and Bill are putting at risk US security to enrich themselves.... read the NYT piece (24/04/2015) on Uranium One which donated millions to the Clintons in exchange for Russia to control the production of uranium in the world, and put the US at risk. From the article: “Few could have imagined in the past that we would own 20 percent of U.S. reserves,” Mr. Kiriyenko told Mr. Putin. Well done Hillary! Who wants her to be president?
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Agreed, I'm shocked this Uranium deal hasn't gotten more press, one more example of why I think HRC is a "greasy" politician.
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amazing! everyone should read this.
Uranium One’s Russian takeover was approved by the United States while Hillary Rodham Clinton was secretary of state. The ultimate authority to approve or reject the Russian acquisition rested with the cabinet officials on the foreign investment committee, including Mrs. Clinton — whose husband was collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-a...
Uranium One’s Russian takeover was approved by the United States while Hillary Rodham Clinton was secretary of state. The ultimate authority to approve or reject the Russian acquisition rested with the cabinet officials on the foreign investment committee, including Mrs. Clinton — whose husband was collecting millions in donations from people associated with Uranium One.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-a...
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The Donald slammed the pope and then he slammed Matthews on MSNBC over abortions and remember such people would have been burned to death for defying the Catholic church ... And I have no doubt that the Donald will not get New York City, and I hope Catholics realizes that Clinton supports religion and Israel, but Bernie ... I pray that he looses ...as the Catholic church owns $161 Billion and The Donald ... only owns one billion dollars from all he owns ... and that should speak for itself!!!
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Bob,
If the NY Catholics like Pope Panchito (Francis), they will most likely back Bernie; the only candidate really concerned about social justice & equality.
(and climate change)
If the NY Catholics like Pope Panchito (Francis), they will most likely back Bernie; the only candidate really concerned about social justice & equality.
(and climate change)
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Just another politician "re-marketing" himself. Yawn.
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@nyalman1
LOL--brilliant comment and so true
LOL--brilliant comment and so true
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Hillary remarkets herself every time she hears Bernie speak.
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Bernie has spent all the money he's suckered out of children defaming Hillary just as any PAC run by a Koch or the RNC. She responds. People like you attack her for responding? No wonder all my friends are sick up to here with pork pie hat wearing Bernie Bros.
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Mr. Bernie Sanders is an inspiring candidate with a soul who carries a resonating message for the American public in this crucial year of the presidential election, by spreading it with an admirable persistence and perseverance against all odds that reminds me of St. Paul of long, long ago, laboring up and down the trails of the Roman provinces with his gospel message to be conveyed to the masses. To me, Mr. Sanders is a genuine, bona fide, and more than well-qualified presidential candidate for the American people, not to have been seen over the past two decades in the presidential elections. Godspeed to Mr. Sanders' April 19, 2016, New York primary and beyond.
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When Bernie grew up "poor" in Brooklyn in the middle part of the last century, here are some facts the columnist didn't know:
1. "Poor" in NYC in the 1940s, 50s and even 60s, was not the same as POOR is now. No matter how poor you were, you had a place to live, and food to eat, for the most part.
2. When he grew up, all TVs were black and white.
3. The "Tenement" was low income housing -- but it had a running water so it was equipped with both a kitchen and a bathroom, and it was more typical than not to be two kids in the bedroom, and the parents in the living room. This is not "poverty." It's not luxury, but again, it's a home with the basics.
4. He graduated from a NYC h.s. that in its day (the neighborhood is different now), as all NYC high schools were, filled with academically astute students; all of whom received a great education taught by teachers who were also likely the children of immigrants, many of whom were from the working poor. This enabled him to go on to college and leave the NYC that gave him his roots.
5. Finally, as another reader here said, he's about as Brooklyn as the Dodgers.
Bernie: Please stop telling us where you're "from" and tell us where we're going on your Coney Island Cyclone Ride. Or better, the Steeplechase.
1. "Poor" in NYC in the 1940s, 50s and even 60s, was not the same as POOR is now. No matter how poor you were, you had a place to live, and food to eat, for the most part.
2. When he grew up, all TVs were black and white.
3. The "Tenement" was low income housing -- but it had a running water so it was equipped with both a kitchen and a bathroom, and it was more typical than not to be two kids in the bedroom, and the parents in the living room. This is not "poverty." It's not luxury, but again, it's a home with the basics.
4. He graduated from a NYC h.s. that in its day (the neighborhood is different now), as all NYC high schools were, filled with academically astute students; all of whom received a great education taught by teachers who were also likely the children of immigrants, many of whom were from the working poor. This enabled him to go on to college and leave the NYC that gave him his roots.
5. Finally, as another reader here said, he's about as Brooklyn as the Dodgers.
Bernie: Please stop telling us where you're "from" and tell us where we're going on your Coney Island Cyclone Ride. Or better, the Steeplechase.
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It's sad that you have to downplay him being "poor" just to make a point that he wasn't "poor enough". If being poor by today's standards is what it takes to connect with the people of New York, then my guess is Hillary shouldn't stand a chance in that regard. He's spent his entire life and career connecting with people, hearing their story and trying to empathize in order to create a better country. This is something I've never seen done from another candidate. You're reasoning to disregard his authenticity is appalling and sad.
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Freya,
I've been trying to get a handle as to why any reasonable American would support Hillary, and can only conclude that her supporters are unreasonable, and blind to the suffering Hillary and her .1%ter associates have imposed on the poor and the middle class, with their insatiable avarice.
I've been trying to get a handle as to why any reasonable American would support Hillary, and can only conclude that her supporters are unreasonable, and blind to the suffering Hillary and her .1%ter associates have imposed on the poor and the middle class, with their insatiable avarice.
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Think about this...You can put your fate in the hands of fools like Hillary Clinton. She has used her position and influence to amass a fortune, that puts her in the top 1/10th of one percent. Whereas, Bernie who has been a public servant longer, has a paltry net worth of $300,000. This fact alone tells volumes about who believes in money, and who believes in serving the people who voted for him. Choose wisely. You may never in your lifetime see another candidate like Bernie Sanders. I was a lifelong Democrat, until the Democrats lined up behind George W. and marched into Iraq and murdered countless numbers. I left that party so fast and will never rejoin it. Last week Bernie said, 'No More War'. In my 65 years on this planet, I have come to believe, you are either, a Lover, or a Hater. Make your choice.
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Yes, he was a public servant for 30 years but when it come time for this election, no one even knew who he was. Why is that? When you do stuff, people know you and how you get get those super delegates. When you do squat, you get squat. And to clarify one more thing, Bernie and Jane are worth a bit over one million. She got $200,000 alone as a severance package when she quit the college. You might like to read this just for fun. http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-i...
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@mohr
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but know this; Hillary Clinton may not be your candidate, and you may not like her personally, but she is nobody's fool.
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but know this; Hillary Clinton may not be your candidate, and you may not like her personally, but she is nobody's fool.
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She is the fave of the 1% though.
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Spoke to a "lady of color", older, in the doctor's office, when Hill's face filled the screen.
Speaking to her/myself, I said "I can't believe this woman. What did she ever do as a carpet bagging senator to NY...?" The woman said to me "I'm from the Bronx. I never saw one thing she did for any of us. Nothing."
The bank manager (a man of color and young...) told me of his deep convictions about Bernie, and he is working on his campaign. He, a Bank Manager, said "She takes money from Wall St. She never cared about anyone as Senator in NY, why is she going to care as President? That's just stupid."
In a nearby shop, same day, (last week) a 35 year old man of color..."Bernie is the only one I am interested in and here's why." He told me a pretty shocking but not surprising story. Like many, he said if Bernie doesn't win, he's leaving the country for somewhere better.
These stories, NY Stories, are not unique. But 20,000 people in a park in the South Bronx to see Sen. Sanders last night??
That's unique.
Speaking to her/myself, I said "I can't believe this woman. What did she ever do as a carpet bagging senator to NY...?" The woman said to me "I'm from the Bronx. I never saw one thing she did for any of us. Nothing."
The bank manager (a man of color and young...) told me of his deep convictions about Bernie, and he is working on his campaign. He, a Bank Manager, said "She takes money from Wall St. She never cared about anyone as Senator in NY, why is she going to care as President? That's just stupid."
In a nearby shop, same day, (last week) a 35 year old man of color..."Bernie is the only one I am interested in and here's why." He told me a pretty shocking but not surprising story. Like many, he said if Bernie doesn't win, he's leaving the country for somewhere better.
These stories, NY Stories, are not unique. But 20,000 people in a park in the South Bronx to see Sen. Sanders last night??
That's unique.
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Apparently you're not old enough to remember when Hillary was the TWO TERM Senator who wrote what became known as "CHIP." It is The Child Health Care Bill she proposed and had enacted that changed the lives of millions of children, while being the Senator from New York State. Try doing some research on your own and quit reciting boorish spin.
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I think anyone with half a memory is considered worth attacking by the Bernie Bros.
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20,000 people in the park. But HOW MANY were South Bronx residents???
Now, THAT'S the question you (and Sanders) should be asking yourselves.
Now, THAT'S the question you (and Sanders) should be asking yourselves.
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Bernie is the only honest candidate in this race, the only one who proposes a better future for all, the only sane candidate with a proven record of taking wise decisions and not constantly flip-flopping on every issue like his opponent.
On top of that he is the only candidate who can win in the general election. Make no mistake, Hillary cannot win the general election because Trump will tear her to shreads on so many issues. A vote for Bernie is a vote for true democratie and a better future, a vote for Hillary is a vote for Trump.
On top of that he is the only candidate who can win in the general election. Make no mistake, Hillary cannot win the general election because Trump will tear her to shreads on so many issues. A vote for Bernie is a vote for true democratie and a better future, a vote for Hillary is a vote for Trump.
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So, are you really getting a good view of what's going on here, from way over there in Europe??...I mean, a good enough view to basically tell people here whom to vote for? Because the last time I checked, we were still a Democracy.
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The only "political revolution" happening here is that Mr. Sanders is helping the republicans win by dividing the democrats. Who is more egotistical? Trump or Sanders? Either way we certainly feel the burn with the heap of ashes they leave in their paths.
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Uh, how is he dividing the Democrats? There are plenty who don't like, and will never like Clinton. That is not his fault. We had a revolution 200 odd years ago - so we don't do coronations anymore.
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What you just essentially said was we should all fall in line with the establishment candidate who is backed by dirty money just to get a better shot at the white house. This Despite the fact that Bernie does better against Trump in every general election match-up. Your reasoning is severely flawed.
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MM,
"[...] Mr. Sanders is helping the republicans win by dividing the democrats".
This 60yr old foot soldier for The Party would love to hear your take on SoS HRC's support for the 2009 Honduran Coup..
Ditto for her war vote, friendship with Kissinger, and her closeness to Exxon, Monsanto, Boeing, Wall Street, and charter schools.
Do you find any of these positions possibly "divisive"?
Am I supposed to ignore all this?
"[...] Mr. Sanders is helping the republicans win by dividing the democrats".
This 60yr old foot soldier for The Party would love to hear your take on SoS HRC's support for the 2009 Honduran Coup..
Ditto for her war vote, friendship with Kissinger, and her closeness to Exxon, Monsanto, Boeing, Wall Street, and charter schools.
Do you find any of these positions possibly "divisive"?
Am I supposed to ignore all this?
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OK New Yorkers, here's a golden chance to redeem yourself for enabling Hillary's Evita-like, White House aspirations. As I recall, she and Bill set up shop in NY for CLEARLY political reasons (national, that is) and managed to get elected to represent a state she had zero connection to and then got re-elected for a term she would never complete (despite her promises that she wouldn't run for president). I'm guessing that New Yorkers were assuming that Hillary's Washington connections would benefit their state or something. If this is the case, this less than altruistic motive (and Obama's nod to the Clintons with his Sec. State appointment) has kept Hillary upon us even now in 2016! Please do us right this time and give Bernie a historical victory.
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Bernie is no more a New Yorker than I am a Chicagoan. We have each lived in our adopted states for nearly a half century. Bernie has been a Vermonter for most of his life, as I have been a New Yorker for most of mine.
And as a New Yorker I have only been dimly aware of Senator Sanders as the Independent Senator from Vermont. On the other hand, I was very aware of the outstanding job Hillary Clinton did as my Senator. Hillary, not Bernie, was with us in New York's darkest hour. It was Hillary who helped millions of New Yorkers recover their lives, careers and businesses, introduced the Zagroda Act, helped to obtain funding for National Security and to rebuild the WTC site in the wake of the September 11 attacks, and introduced legislation to protect the health and education of children. It was Senator Clinton of New York, not Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who helped New Yorkers whose families were victims of Hurricane Katrina, and it was Senator Clinton of New York, not Senator Sanders of Vermont, who introduced legislation to establish a commission to examine the causes of the failures of the federal government to respond appropriately to the Katrina emergency. These were two among many of her accomplishments as a New Yorker. Being born in a place is not the same as helping it, saving it, making it a better place in which to grow up, live and work. That is the reason Hillary is so popular in New York and the reason New York will support her over Vermonter Bernie Sanders.
And as a New Yorker I have only been dimly aware of Senator Sanders as the Independent Senator from Vermont. On the other hand, I was very aware of the outstanding job Hillary Clinton did as my Senator. Hillary, not Bernie, was with us in New York's darkest hour. It was Hillary who helped millions of New Yorkers recover their lives, careers and businesses, introduced the Zagroda Act, helped to obtain funding for National Security and to rebuild the WTC site in the wake of the September 11 attacks, and introduced legislation to protect the health and education of children. It was Senator Clinton of New York, not Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who helped New Yorkers whose families were victims of Hurricane Katrina, and it was Senator Clinton of New York, not Senator Sanders of Vermont, who introduced legislation to establish a commission to examine the causes of the failures of the federal government to respond appropriately to the Katrina emergency. These were two among many of her accomplishments as a New Yorker. Being born in a place is not the same as helping it, saving it, making it a better place in which to grow up, live and work. That is the reason Hillary is so popular in New York and the reason New York will support her over Vermonter Bernie Sanders.
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Not so fast. I'm here 60+ years, since birth and have been aware of Senator Sanders for some time. I was envious of Vernonters that they had such a principled, ethical caring person to represent them. He represents me too. I am THRILLED I'll be able to vote for him in the NY primary.
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Sanders is hated by every Vermont pol. He's incompetent to run the system other than to hold out his vote for earmarks. Nice 25 year free ride on the taxpayers.
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Please tell me what Bernie Sanders has accomplished as a member of the House of Representatives and as a Senator. Other than amending lots of other people's bills, I couldn't find much in his legislative record.
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"Much attention has gone to the 'revolution' I have been calling for, but that word for me is about heightening the urgency of the situation, the urgency of the changes we need. But in truth, my hopes are much more about a re-affirmation of principles of fairness and democracy that are commitments woven deeply throughout our history, going back not just to the civil rights movement, the New Deal to overcome the ravages bred by Wall Street speculation (and peculation), and the civil war that sought to realize the unfulfilled promise of Liberty for people of every background and hue, and the Declaration, but even back beyond the Revolutionary war to the colonies' very founding, the Mayflower Compact itself, which affirmed liberty and fairness and equality as core commitments of the new nation,
In this sense, I'm NOT the "revolutionary" in this story, my reforms NOT the "revolution." The real
Revolution in this story is the neoconservative one that began around 1980, that made a Wall Street outlook and value system a new religion that has been turning America into an oligarchy. Both Clintons with their empowering of and deep attachment to Wall Street have helped advance this revolution I seek to reverse by renewing commitment to democracy and fairness and challenging a culture of greed rather than pandering to it.
In this sense, I'm NOT the "revolutionary" in this story, my reforms NOT the "revolution." The real
Revolution in this story is the neoconservative one that began around 1980, that made a Wall Street outlook and value system a new religion that has been turning America into an oligarchy. Both Clintons with their empowering of and deep attachment to Wall Street have helped advance this revolution I seek to reverse by renewing commitment to democracy and fairness and challenging a culture of greed rather than pandering to it.
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Thanks for putting up with my heavy-handed approach to suggesting how I believe Bernie should tweak the "revolution" message.
Woefully insufficient attention has gone to the fact that 1980 commenced a much more dramatic revolution than even Mr. Sanders suggests, just in the opposite direction. It goes largely unremarked, unnoticed a "revolution" because no-one calls it that. But REVOLUTION it is and was, and the Clintons have been major parts of it in the last 2.5 decades.
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
Woefully insufficient attention has gone to the fact that 1980 commenced a much more dramatic revolution than even Mr. Sanders suggests, just in the opposite direction. It goes largely unremarked, unnoticed a "revolution" because no-one calls it that. But REVOLUTION it is and was, and the Clintons have been major parts of it in the last 2.5 decades.
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
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For those who didn't notice, this statistic shows executive salaries increasing at 90x the rate ordinary workers' wages increased. And not, by the way, from particularly close starting figures. If that isn't understood as a revolution, I don't know what planet I'm living on. The whole picture is beyond absurd, and who is addressing this? Even Bernie fails to note what a revolution actually happened beginning around 1980. Gecko was reality, one very close not just to trump, but the Clinton's too.
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Bernie fans slam Hillary ad nauseum about how political she is but let's be real, the fact that he's promoting his Brooklyn roots is laughable. Why should that even matter in this election? WHO CARES.
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Bernie is the real deal. Hillary can't match that no matter where she lives in New York. BTW, Chappaqua is not New York City.
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Real deal? What, he's a nice guy? Not sure what he's accomplished in his career but clearly it's enough for many of his followers. I, for one, am berned out on the vitriol toward Hillary that emanates from the Bernie camp. I would have expected more from his campaign. Not much different than the others.
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And Vermont is not Brooklyn....
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This is an interesting piece. Yamiche Alcinder's writing style grabs and hangs on to you. In reading this piece and the comments to it, it only made me think that it would be great to bring this excitement to the whole country.
I think the DNC is crazy not to capture this excitement by asking NY to host a TV debate between HRC and Bernie. I know her campaign staff probably advises her against it because she is one of the best known woman in the World and Bernie has been sort of "blacked" out by the media. But my case is for them to bring the electricity and energy of the battle for New York to the country would probably increase turn out, which I think they will need. A new voter turn-out would turn up the heat on the GOP led Congress.
Both of the Democratic candidates have many good policy ideas & they are fairly close. So exposure to these ideas would offer a counter to the stuff that Mr. Trump has been putting out and getting 90% of the media coverage. One must note that we now have added Trumpism to our vocabulary of ideological isms.
Debate!
The Nation will benefit. In fact, New York could be turning point, because most of the country already knows that it is time to think about unifying the country. We have many huge problems, like global warming, terrorism, awful income inequality, and very high rates of unemployment globally. America is so intertwined with the World economy that we must strengthen our economic engine for all to live a decent life.
I think the DNC is crazy not to capture this excitement by asking NY to host a TV debate between HRC and Bernie. I know her campaign staff probably advises her against it because she is one of the best known woman in the World and Bernie has been sort of "blacked" out by the media. But my case is for them to bring the electricity and energy of the battle for New York to the country would probably increase turn out, which I think they will need. A new voter turn-out would turn up the heat on the GOP led Congress.
Both of the Democratic candidates have many good policy ideas & they are fairly close. So exposure to these ideas would offer a counter to the stuff that Mr. Trump has been putting out and getting 90% of the media coverage. One must note that we now have added Trumpism to our vocabulary of ideological isms.
Debate!
The Nation will benefit. In fact, New York could be turning point, because most of the country already knows that it is time to think about unifying the country. We have many huge problems, like global warming, terrorism, awful income inequality, and very high rates of unemployment globally. America is so intertwined with the World economy that we must strengthen our economic engine for all to live a decent life.
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Hillary loves to criticize Trump for his anti Muslim remarks but you can correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't it Hillary's time as NY senator that all Muslims in the state were being surveilled only for being Muslim.
Even though all the 9/11 attackers were Saudi Nationals and none were Muslim New Yorkers who have NEVER participated in such acts.
Hypocrisy has a new best friend.
Vote Bernie 2016! or Bust
Even though all the 9/11 attackers were Saudi Nationals and none were Muslim New Yorkers who have NEVER participated in such acts.
Hypocrisy has a new best friend.
Vote Bernie 2016! or Bust
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@bbd
And if "Bust" means we end up with Cruz or Trump, the world will not forgive you.
And if "Bust" means we end up with Cruz or Trump, the world will not forgive you.
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Vote for Clinton with her negative ratings, her baggage and her general unlikeability, and we will definitely end up with Cruz or Trump. Sanders beats them. SHE does not.
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N. Smith,
It is HRC who is nothing more than a money-backed fabrication.
Tell me the last time that she managed to gather 15-18 thousand people in a 36 hr period.
A paper tiger. I love this. It displays a very crass person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A
It is HRC who is nothing more than a money-backed fabrication.
Tell me the last time that she managed to gather 15-18 thousand people in a 36 hr period.
A paper tiger. I love this. It displays a very crass person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC4Pvm6Oj4A
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"Winning would create a story beyond the mere delegate count, which I think would propel his campaign,” Mr. Miringoff said.
Reporting on the "mere delegate count" is so dull and exasperating.
When there are so many more important things about this election, particularly, to me, why so many millions of people are so angry and WANT to vote for a rich guy who is unstable and manipulative and promising to roll back the freedoms that they claim to love.
Why aren't you digging into that media?
Reporting on the "mere delegate count" is so dull and exasperating.
When there are so many more important things about this election, particularly, to me, why so many millions of people are so angry and WANT to vote for a rich guy who is unstable and manipulative and promising to roll back the freedoms that they claim to love.
Why aren't you digging into that media?
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NORA01 FROM NEW ENGLAND: are you reading the Comments this morning?
I agree with every word on Sanders' site, as do all Democrats, as does Clinton; these ideas do not belong to one candidate. Not so sure about all policy recommendations - but would certainly love to see a tax on Wall Street trades.
I apologize to you for anything in my reply yesterday that added to your distress. Personally, I'm broken-hearted by the all of the animosity here.
I hope we can stick together. Wishing you the best in all ways,
Mayda NYC
I agree with every word on Sanders' site, as do all Democrats, as does Clinton; these ideas do not belong to one candidate. Not so sure about all policy recommendations - but would certainly love to see a tax on Wall Street trades.
I apologize to you for anything in my reply yesterday that added to your distress. Personally, I'm broken-hearted by the all of the animosity here.
I hope we can stick together. Wishing you the best in all ways,
Mayda NYC
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Dear Hillary supporters,
We love you, really we do, in spite of your misguided efforts to foist yet another charlatan on us; see we know in your heart and souls, you want Bernie, you have yet to feel the "Bern", which I know is getting warmer for you all, so rest easy, together we will stop the Drumpf cold, and with your loyalty to our Democracy, we will carry Bernie into the White House for two extraordinary terms, finally returning America to all of the people, once and for all time.
We love you, really we do, in spite of your misguided efforts to foist yet another charlatan on us; see we know in your heart and souls, you want Bernie, you have yet to feel the "Bern", which I know is getting warmer for you all, so rest easy, together we will stop the Drumpf cold, and with your loyalty to our Democracy, we will carry Bernie into the White House for two extraordinary terms, finally returning America to all of the people, once and for all time.
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@mel farrell
Are you really serious?? What is this supposed to mean? What would you think if you received an email addressed to you like this? Are you purposely trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders, and lose him votes?
Please think about this.
Are you really serious?? What is this supposed to mean? What would you think if you received an email addressed to you like this? Are you purposely trying to sabotage Bernie Sanders, and lose him votes?
Please think about this.
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Right. Like all of a sudden, he's a New Yorker now. Give me a break. That might work for all the transplants and wannabes, but truth be told, Sanders has been 'in absentia' for so long, it'll be a wonder if he even recognizes the place.
I mean, I actually live here, and I don't even recognize Brooklyn anymore.
I mean, I actually live here, and I don't even recognize Brooklyn anymore.
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I left Brooklyn for the West Coast about 45 years ago, and I still consider myself a New Yorker, with a New York frame of mind! New York is more than a place; it is a way of being. New Yorker's always love New York.
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He was born here. She was born in Illinois. That gives him a head start in authenticity already.
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Where you were born and how you were raised leaves a lasting imprint on your character, world view, and, if you are not a natural mimic like Hillary Clinton, your accent. Bernie still carries his Brooklyn accent despite the fact that it doesn't buy him many votes in a national election - maybe not even in Brooklyn where his old accent has sort of faded under the influx of upscale Millenials. Bernie is the Energizer Bernie - he marches on with the same hair, the same suit, the same accent, the same speech, and the same hope that the United States can once again be a democratic country where everyone who works 40 hours a week makes a living wage. That hasn't been true for many, many years.
Bernie has never rejected his roots - you don't have to be physically in an area to still support it! Hillary adopted New York after Bill retired as President because it had a promising vacancy for US Senate. She changes her message to fit the audience and the time - she's an accommodator.
Hillary was born in an upscale suburb of Chicago to Republican parents and was President of the Republican Club of her upscale Seven Sisters College, Wellesley, in a very upscale, luxurious suburb of Boston. She has always aspired to be rich and powerful, and she's succeeded. She's always been a Republican with a heart. She once again lives in an extremely upscale neighborhood in Chappaqua or near Washinton DC. So what? We MUST support whoever wins the Democratic primary in the national election!
Bernie has never rejected his roots - you don't have to be physically in an area to still support it! Hillary adopted New York after Bill retired as President because it had a promising vacancy for US Senate. She changes her message to fit the audience and the time - she's an accommodator.
Hillary was born in an upscale suburb of Chicago to Republican parents and was President of the Republican Club of her upscale Seven Sisters College, Wellesley, in a very upscale, luxurious suburb of Boston. She has always aspired to be rich and powerful, and she's succeeded. She's always been a Republican with a heart. She once again lives in an extremely upscale neighborhood in Chappaqua or near Washinton DC. So what? We MUST support whoever wins the Democratic primary in the national election!
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Finally, an article about Sanders and the Democratic contest which is not disrespectful or dismissive. I will consider voting for Clinton if you keep covering the Democratic race,
You had lost my vote by your selective and Republican oriented coverage.
Your news (which isn't news) and editorials go Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I am sick of hearing the non-news about him.
You had lost my vote by your selective and Republican oriented coverage.
Your news (which isn't news) and editorials go Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. I am sick of hearing the non-news about him.
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Sanders continues to rant and spin the same ol', same ol' same ol' talking points-Wall Street, Hillary's outrageous speaking fees, her voting for trade pacts, and what else? Oh, yeah, Wall Street, Hillary's outrageous speaking fees, her voting for trade pacts, et al. OK, now that I've made my point, let me ask you something. Have you ever noticed at the top of the front page, where it says, "All The News That's Fit To Print?" Well, I hope you get my point.
But maybe if Sanders would take the time and comment on the fact that another company, the 1,000th company, just signed on with Vermont's on-shore tax evasion organization, Captive Insurance Companies, then maybe he'd get some press coverage. You see, in order to make like Vermont has done this noble, patriotic thing to keep companies from taking their insurance businesses to the Cayman Islands for tax breaks, Vermont has been providing insurances businesses for years the opportunity to stay right here in the good old USA and get their tax breaks. AND!!!!!, we get jobs out of it-well, kind of.
Why is it you never hear about this, Mr. Sanders?
Recently, the IRS tried to tighten the screws, get some tougher regulations in place, but they were warned by the outfit that represents this tax evasion scheme, that if they get any tougher, businesses are going to leave. So, with their hands tied, they caved. And Sanders' state of Vermont got the opportunity to continue to put it to you and me. Just like all those nasty banks.
But maybe if Sanders would take the time and comment on the fact that another company, the 1,000th company, just signed on with Vermont's on-shore tax evasion organization, Captive Insurance Companies, then maybe he'd get some press coverage. You see, in order to make like Vermont has done this noble, patriotic thing to keep companies from taking their insurance businesses to the Cayman Islands for tax breaks, Vermont has been providing insurances businesses for years the opportunity to stay right here in the good old USA and get their tax breaks. AND!!!!!, we get jobs out of it-well, kind of.
Why is it you never hear about this, Mr. Sanders?
Recently, the IRS tried to tighten the screws, get some tougher regulations in place, but they were warned by the outfit that represents this tax evasion scheme, that if they get any tougher, businesses are going to leave. So, with their hands tied, they caved. And Sanders' state of Vermont got the opportunity to continue to put it to you and me. Just like all those nasty banks.
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The democratic process continues; people in the remaining states will have a choice and a say as to their candidate! Based on consistency and an unwavering commitment to the middle class; exposing the wrongs of both the economic and political system; delivering a message of true economic, social and political reform, there is only one candidate who is a true progressive and has a quite endorsement from Senator Warren; hint, it's not Hillary, Goldman Sachs, Clinton, who was so broke after leaving the White House she could not afford to pay her mortgages !!!!!Hillary who've will be for or against any issue to meet her political needs; who will praise then criticize the president on his immigration policy; who will set up residency anywhere there is political opportunity; who will bend, twist and manipulate rules to fit her perception of reality; who will never answer directly but will use sophistry, obfuscations and prevarications. To all Sanders critics who say Bernie states his views on the economy till adnauseum, I say the truth is rather boring and revealing!
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When Mr. Sanders was growing up everyone who had a television had a black
and white television--so mentioning this fact displays the author's ignorance at best. Try not to sound dumb.
and white television--so mentioning this fact displays the author's ignorance at best. Try not to sound dumb.
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I don't necessarily mind a redundant description if it adds to the image, but it's also weird to just say that he grew up watching television. No stickball for Bernie?
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Bernie was a basketball player! :)
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Bernie was also a Miler in HS.
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NYT didn’t print my comment. Hmm.
I’ll simplify. Sanders chose Vermont, Clinton chose NY. I think most NYers will know the difference. Sanders went for greener pastures. He has that right, but to come back as an NYer is a bit much.
And his promises of revolution are insane. Does anyone really think an unstable America is a good idea at this time in history? Does anyone really want to risk Trump and his “go make your own nukes” comments? Sanders or Trump = greater danger for Americans. I like some of Sanders ideas but this isn’t the time. I keep asking, why now? Why not run against Obama? Or Gore? Or the other Clinton? He’s been around the block, if no longer from it. So why now?
I’ll simplify. Sanders chose Vermont, Clinton chose NY. I think most NYers will know the difference. Sanders went for greener pastures. He has that right, but to come back as an NYer is a bit much.
And his promises of revolution are insane. Does anyone really think an unstable America is a good idea at this time in history? Does anyone really want to risk Trump and his “go make your own nukes” comments? Sanders or Trump = greater danger for Americans. I like some of Sanders ideas but this isn’t the time. I keep asking, why now? Why not run against Obama? Or Gore? Or the other Clinton? He’s been around the block, if no longer from it. So why now?
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This isn't the time? Oh, I get it - you believe that it's Her "time". No it isn't.
And if Sanders is insane, so are many millions of Americans who believe just what he does.
And if Sanders is insane, so are many millions of Americans who believe just what he does.
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Lifelong - Yes, I think it is time to have a woman president. Way past time, actually.
But more than that, with the world completely unstable, it isn't the time to have an unstable America. I don't think Sanders is insane; I think the idea to destabilize America at this point is nuts.
So, answer the question. Where has he been all of this time and why now, against Hillary? Kind of odd, to me.
But more than that, with the world completely unstable, it isn't the time to have an unstable America. I don't think Sanders is insane; I think the idea to destabilize America at this point is nuts.
So, answer the question. Where has he been all of this time and why now, against Hillary? Kind of odd, to me.
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What a specious argument. Sanders moved to Vermont long before he entered politics. He loved the state and has won elections on all levels. He has barely been elected then received 70% of the vote at his next election because he did such a good job. Bernie came from a poor family and had to earn his way from nothing. Hillary started out in a middle income family in a wealthy suburb and got a superb education at an Eastern College and Yale Law School, where she met Bill Clinton and "married down..." He proposed many times, and she moved to Arkansas and finally agreed to marry him. But she has always been working to get back to the East Coast and upper income areas.
Where they chose to live does say something about them, but don't forget that our best president ever, Abraham Lincoln, came from the sticks and was considered stupid and boorish when he moved into the White House. Both of these candidates are good people with strong backgrounds.
Where they chose to live does say something about them, but don't forget that our best president ever, Abraham Lincoln, came from the sticks and was considered stupid and boorish when he moved into the White House. Both of these candidates are good people with strong backgrounds.
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Here is something for New Yorkers to think about: In a general election matchup, Sanders beats Cruz http://bit.ly/1TTtBYC, and Sanders beats Trump http://bit.ly/1hbLp0U. He beats both with a wider margin than HIllary.
And he does so without HIllary's 'litany of scandal': http://bit.ly/1RNgN0E
This is a no brainer!
And he does so without HIllary's 'litany of scandal': http://bit.ly/1RNgN0E
This is a no brainer!
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Bill Eisen quoted the "NY Daily News, 5-14-13, Hillary's state department became Monsanto's global marketing arm notwithstanding that Hillary received a $325,000 speaking fee from Monsanto's top GMO lobby front group BIO."
Hillary and Bill - if you look at their records - you will find that they follow the polls and grudgingly accept the socially liberal issues - not right away.
If you look at the ECONOMIC ISSUES - they are WALL STREET BANKSTERS.
In the 90s, they set the tone with the defeat of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act which for 66 years had prevented the Wall Street Banksters from playing CASINO with their phony derivatives. That led to the 2008 collapse. Three strikes you are out led to the jailing of millions.The destruction of a fair Welfare program led to millions of kids plunging into poverty. The Militarization of police & privatization of Prisons accelerated.
Hillary wants us to believe that her $300,000 speeches to the BANKSTERS is just another talk to the cupcake club. No promises - just smiles and niceties.
As Secretary of State, she condoned and assisted the Coup in Honduras which has led to more brutality in Latin America - most recently the assassination of Berta Caceras, the great environmentalist. Juan Gonzalez`s book - The Harvest of Empire - explains how this has led to millions fleeing across the borders to EL NORTE.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for continued war, domestic turmoil and our sick foreign policy. GO BERNIE - a vote for change.
Hillary and Bill - if you look at their records - you will find that they follow the polls and grudgingly accept the socially liberal issues - not right away.
If you look at the ECONOMIC ISSUES - they are WALL STREET BANKSTERS.
In the 90s, they set the tone with the defeat of the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act which for 66 years had prevented the Wall Street Banksters from playing CASINO with their phony derivatives. That led to the 2008 collapse. Three strikes you are out led to the jailing of millions.The destruction of a fair Welfare program led to millions of kids plunging into poverty. The Militarization of police & privatization of Prisons accelerated.
Hillary wants us to believe that her $300,000 speeches to the BANKSTERS is just another talk to the cupcake club. No promises - just smiles and niceties.
As Secretary of State, she condoned and assisted the Coup in Honduras which has led to more brutality in Latin America - most recently the assassination of Berta Caceras, the great environmentalist. Juan Gonzalez`s book - The Harvest of Empire - explains how this has led to millions fleeing across the borders to EL NORTE.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for continued war, domestic turmoil and our sick foreign policy. GO BERNIE - a vote for change.
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Hillary outright lied to the Greenpeace activist when she denied taking fossil fuel industry money--and she refused to join Greenpeace's pledge not to accept their money. Not only did she lie, she feigned indignation and called Bernie Sanders a liar while she was at it.
Hillary is truly emblematic of what the Democratic party has sadly become: It no longer holds democratic principles, it's a cult of personality.
Hillary is truly emblematic of what the Democratic party has sadly become: It no longer holds democratic principles, it's a cult of personality.
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People will use any excuse to defeat a woman. The people who are backing Bernie are going to destroy Hillary and then either Trump or Cruz will win against Bernie. Then our country is toast.
Ralph Nader ruined it for Gore and we got Cheney running our country.
Why won't people learn from history?
Ralph Nader ruined it for Gore and we got Cheney running our country.
Why won't people learn from history?
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We ARE learning from history - for one thing, Sanders is not Nader, Gore did not fight the Supreme Court decision and that's how we got Bush. We also learned that Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq war which was based on lies. We also learned that she has accepted boatloads of money from Wall Street. (Where are the transcripts, Hillary?) We have also learned that she has no real positions of her own and will say anything to just get that job in the White House. We have learned a lot - and we are voting for Sanders.
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Hillary destroyed her chances by her own actions past and present. All Bernie can do is present her record and let others decide if her choices and action proved beneficial or hurtful. You are the judge.
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Oh, for crying out loud, this campaign is not about "defeating a woman". It is about defeating and changing a political system that is untenable to millions of voters. It's unfortunate that your "woman" embraces the current system and finds it completely acceptable, while throwing the populace a bone with vague lip service about needing change, presumably somewhere down the road. It need not be this way. Seeing which way the wind is blowing, seeing how Bernie only has to send out an email blast to ask for more financial support from his followers, seeing how so many give a little bit because they know others who share their vision will surely do the same, this is the stuff of a popular movement driven by policy and the shared vision of millions of people for a better system. Hillary, too, could easily cancel her $27,000 to $300,000+ entrance fee dinners and run her campaign under Bernie's model. She refuses to do so. She likes the system as it is, she likes her rich backers, she likes her PACS. She hasn't sufficient support without them. Well, that is her choice, and clearly, her followers have no problem with her campaign being funded by corporations and the rich, saves them forking up a contribution. But Bernie has proven there is another model -- a better, more inclusive model -- that can drive the political system in American. That Hillary likes the old model, and that Bernie's supporters do not, has nothing to do with the fact that Mrs. Clinton is female.
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80% of the people were white. Why was he even in the S Bronx? Should've gone to Central Park or better...Park Slope Brooklyn. Tired of this guy Pandering to minorities. He's from a state (VT) that barely sees any Black or Brown faces - not used to dealing with them at all
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This comment proves that to some, Sanders can't win no matter what he does. It starts out complaining that he panders to minorities -- and ends by stating he isn't used to dealing with them. What a pointless waste of keystrokes.
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We're you there? Because you're espousing incorrect facts. If you were actually at the rally, you would be very well aware that whites did NOT make up 80% of the crowd.
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exactly!
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Ofcourse he had a black and white TV set- that wasn't poverty , it was the era.
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Bernie is not a Democrat. He's a Socialist/Independent. Good luck with that label in November.
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And Hillary is a Republican.
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Bernie is a self-described Democratic Socialist. I agree that it's the stupidist thing he says. But cut him some slack for absolute bravery is giving himself that label before the Republican war machine does! He's actually an FRR. Truman, JFK, Lyndon Johnson Democrat. In other words, Bernie is, unlike Republican-Light Hillary Clinton, a real Democrat.
If Bill and Hillary Clinton had been real Democrats, Bill could not have been elected and re-elected Governor of Arkansas for 5 terms (20 years). They were Southern Democrats, known as Republicans today in Arkansas and throughout the South. People need to get that terminology clear. It explains a lot of the confusion about Bill and Hillary Clinton, and why Bill (with Hillary's support) got rid of the Glass Steagall Act and other Wall Street controls while Bill was President. It's ironic that Republicans don't treat Bill and Hillary better because they definitely operate outside the traditional goals of the Democratic Party.
If Bill and Hillary Clinton had been real Democrats, Bill could not have been elected and re-elected Governor of Arkansas for 5 terms (20 years). They were Southern Democrats, known as Republicans today in Arkansas and throughout the South. People need to get that terminology clear. It explains a lot of the confusion about Bill and Hillary Clinton, and why Bill (with Hillary's support) got rid of the Glass Steagall Act and other Wall Street controls while Bill was President. It's ironic that Republicans don't treat Bill and Hillary better because they definitely operate outside the traditional goals of the Democratic Party.
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peteowl - The Republicans would welcome her with open arms right about now.
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For the people that say he's not a New Yorker when he claims to be (i.e. Dana from Santa Monica). He doesn't claim he's a New Yorker, he claims truthfully that he was born here and raised here. You can move here and become a New Yorker, but if you are born and raised here, you simply can't take the New York out of you. It's part of you.
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I send him $35 dollars every time he has a big victory or a big disappointment like losing all those southern states so badly after he did campaign hard there. He may not be able to win, but it's not going to be because I didn't do what I could to elect him!
I think both Decmoratic candidates are far superior to the Republican field. But Bernie Sanders has a vision for real change which I think can ultimately appeal to most Americans. May the Energizer Bernie keep on thumping along to the White House!
I think both Decmoratic candidates are far superior to the Republican field. But Bernie Sanders has a vision for real change which I think can ultimately appeal to most Americans. May the Energizer Bernie keep on thumping along to the White House!
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We now know, thanks to the NYT, the important news that Bernie grew up in a tenement apartment. And for some reason his Brooklyn accent, which doesn't seem to bother voters or reporters in other parts of the country, is mentioned in almost every story. Sanders came from 3% to his present position with the help of millions of voters like me who sent him $25. That's the real story!
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When I lived in Brooklyn (as I did for more than a quarter of a century, before it became "Brooklyn!!!"), then-Senator Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq - as did our senior Senator, Chuck Schumer, and our Congressman, the already disgraceful Anthony Weiner. These three deprived thousands upon thousands their anti-war constituents of a voice on the most critical issue of the late 20th century. as our letters, phone calls and emails to their offices went unheeded and simply ignored.
Mrs. Clinton could have chosen to do the right thing. Twenty-one Democratic, one Independent and eight Republican Senators voted against the use-of-force resolution - she hardly would have been an outlier. And it wasn't as if she was duped by the Bush Administration's phony intelligence; in a stunning admission, she later said she didn't read any of it before the vote. Now she says she regrets that vote - 14 years, untold lost lives and trillions of misspent dollars later, with the deadly results of the Iraq debacle seen in almost every day's headlines.
I hope my former neighbors will hold Mrs. Clinton accountable for her silencing of your voices in 2002 by speaking up with your votes on April 19, as we in Maine did resoundingly in our caucuses with a big win for Bernie Sanders - who voted "no" to the Iraq war resolution. (If you do the right thing the first time, you don't have to spend time regretting and explaining.)
Mrs. Clinton could have chosen to do the right thing. Twenty-one Democratic, one Independent and eight Republican Senators voted against the use-of-force resolution - she hardly would have been an outlier. And it wasn't as if she was duped by the Bush Administration's phony intelligence; in a stunning admission, she later said she didn't read any of it before the vote. Now she says she regrets that vote - 14 years, untold lost lives and trillions of misspent dollars later, with the deadly results of the Iraq debacle seen in almost every day's headlines.
I hope my former neighbors will hold Mrs. Clinton accountable for her silencing of your voices in 2002 by speaking up with your votes on April 19, as we in Maine did resoundingly in our caucuses with a big win for Bernie Sanders - who voted "no" to the Iraq war resolution. (If you do the right thing the first time, you don't have to spend time regretting and explaining.)
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Although HC may be a nice person, I can't get over the "follow the money" idea. I also can't see that Wall Street has my best interests at heart. I'm willing to try Bernie, a person who is, essentially, crowd-sourced. It's heartening to see a new generation that might, perhaps, understand that they get the government they deserve if they don't become engaged.
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Why didn't the NYTimes cover this rally live? It was right in its backyard and the turnout was impressive--for its optimism, spot-on critiques, diversity and sheer size.
When the Times finally published an article a few hours after the rally, it was buried deep within the Politics section, where it remains.
Instead, we got prominent pieces on Bill Clinton and Trump.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, Times editors and publishers, for your constant efforts to shut out (or at minimum, diminish) coverage of Sanders and his rising popularity.
When the Times finally published an article a few hours after the rally, it was buried deep within the Politics section, where it remains.
Instead, we got prominent pieces on Bill Clinton and Trump.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, Times editors and publishers, for your constant efforts to shut out (or at minimum, diminish) coverage of Sanders and his rising popularity.
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Note to NY Times editors: growing up "only" with black and white tv was not a sign of poverty in the '40s and '50s when Bernie was growing up. Color tv wasn't available anywhere in the US until 1954, and outside of places like NYC, any tv programming only slowly became available. I'm about Bernie's age, and my middle-class family in Houston got its first tv when I was eleven.
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Speaks volumes....
"Hillary Clinton’s campaign recently sunk to a new low by allowing political operative David Brock to file ethics lawsuits on their behalf against Bernie Sanders’ campaign.
Despite vocally advocating for campaign finance reform, Ms. Clinton has received millions of dollars in contributions through her joint super PAC with the Democratic National Committee—the Hillary Victory Fund—and several other super PACs lobbying on her behalf. One of them, the American Democracy Legal Fund (ADLF), had the audacity to file three ethics complaints with the Federal Election Commission alleging Mr. Sanders—who does not have a super PAC—received too much money from individual donors, and accused the National Nurses Union of operating as a super PAC.
The ADLF is run by Brad Woodhouse, president of the pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC, Correct The Record. Mr. Brock is the founder of ADLF, and is also involved with Correct the Record as well as another Clinton super PAC, American Bridge—where he simultaneously advises Ms. Clinton’s campaign and helps their super PACs raise millions of dollars from wealthy contributors."
http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-must-sever-ties-with-dirty-t...
"Hillary Clinton’s campaign recently sunk to a new low by allowing political operative David Brock to file ethics lawsuits on their behalf against Bernie Sanders’ campaign.
Despite vocally advocating for campaign finance reform, Ms. Clinton has received millions of dollars in contributions through her joint super PAC with the Democratic National Committee—the Hillary Victory Fund—and several other super PACs lobbying on her behalf. One of them, the American Democracy Legal Fund (ADLF), had the audacity to file three ethics complaints with the Federal Election Commission alleging Mr. Sanders—who does not have a super PAC—received too much money from individual donors, and accused the National Nurses Union of operating as a super PAC.
The ADLF is run by Brad Woodhouse, president of the pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC, Correct The Record. Mr. Brock is the founder of ADLF, and is also involved with Correct the Record as well as another Clinton super PAC, American Bridge—where he simultaneously advises Ms. Clinton’s campaign and helps their super PACs raise millions of dollars from wealthy contributors."
http://observer.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-must-sever-ties-with-dirty-t...
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The Observer is owned by Donald Trump's Son in Law - please disclose. He does.
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Go home to VT carpetbagger His campaign is taking a rather disgusting turn, especially his supporters bashing people who support Secretary Clinton online.
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As opposed to the woman who is from Illinois via Arkansas? I guess you didn't know that.
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OK. Then let's call it the way it is. They're BOTH carpetbaggers!...and I guess you forgot that.
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How is he a carpetbagger when he was actually born here?
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Voters in New York have a clear choice to make.
One is a son of Brooklyn, a first generation child of immigrants, a man who early on stood for values that resonate today - the sign of a strong moral compass. His record of taking sometimes then unpopular stands on important issues because his head and heart led him there is long.
The other one is a carpetbagger from Illinois via Arkansas who relocated to New York specifically to tap Wall Street money and run for a Senate seat. She has twisted and contorted herself in true Clinton style into a candidate that does not resemble the policies she championed as a Senator, Secretary of State or surrogate for her husband during his candidacy and Presidency. Bill and Hillary ran as a 2-for-1 deal in the 1990's, so yes it is fair to hold her accountable for his Administration's policies.
Robert Reich, the Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton and long time friend of Bill and Hillary, has endorse Bernie- not Hillary for President. This is based on policy and record- not animus or misogyny.
Mark my words: Hillary will forget the new and improved Hillary "Progressive that likes to get things done" nonsense should she get the nomination and the Presidency. She is a shape shifter that I know well having grown up in Arkansas. Like her husband she uses triangulation in campaigns and hopes you have a very short memory.
Hillary claims to be practical when she is the candidate of the status quo. We do not need the status quo- we need Bernie.
One is a son of Brooklyn, a first generation child of immigrants, a man who early on stood for values that resonate today - the sign of a strong moral compass. His record of taking sometimes then unpopular stands on important issues because his head and heart led him there is long.
The other one is a carpetbagger from Illinois via Arkansas who relocated to New York specifically to tap Wall Street money and run for a Senate seat. She has twisted and contorted herself in true Clinton style into a candidate that does not resemble the policies she championed as a Senator, Secretary of State or surrogate for her husband during his candidacy and Presidency. Bill and Hillary ran as a 2-for-1 deal in the 1990's, so yes it is fair to hold her accountable for his Administration's policies.
Robert Reich, the Labor Secretary under Bill Clinton and long time friend of Bill and Hillary, has endorse Bernie- not Hillary for President. This is based on policy and record- not animus or misogyny.
Mark my words: Hillary will forget the new and improved Hillary "Progressive that likes to get things done" nonsense should she get the nomination and the Presidency. She is a shape shifter that I know well having grown up in Arkansas. Like her husband she uses triangulation in campaigns and hopes you have a very short memory.
Hillary claims to be practical when she is the candidate of the status quo. We do not need the status quo- we need Bernie.
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One can't deny Bernie's Brooklyn roots, his accent certainly reminds us that his roots are in New York. It's also important to think about why he didn't settle in New York after graduating from college in Chicago, perhaps it's because both of his parents died when Bernie was young, maybe being in the place he was born and raised, where he had great memories which were shadowed by the death of his parents, made him leave for Vermont (and his older brother for England). But again, you can't take the Brooklyn out of Bernie, you hear it every single time he speaks. New York should be proud of raising such a caring and passionate person.
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Bernie was a hippie who went to Vermont in the 1960's because it was romantic and a lot cheaper place to live than New York. Once he adopted it as his home, he worked very hard to make it a better place through holding political office at all levels. Vermonters agree that he has been very successful in this regard. He won his re-elections by up to 70% of thge votes. By any measure, he is a good man.
Most importantly, he makes good decisions under a lot of pressure, and he is consistent. He's industrious, as of course Secretary Clinton is also.
Hillary Clinton is certainly well-connected and a great networker. She traveled more as Secretary of State than any other Secretary of State in history. She did a lot of good, no doubt, in opening avenues of conversation. But the Middle East and much of the world looks to me like it's got worse during her term as SOS. Whether this is attributable to President Obama, Secretary Clinton, or just bad luck, it's hard to say. But her personal habits, preference in long time associates, etc, etc. are less than appealing to me. I find Bernie refreshing in his treatment of the most important issues facing the new president. He's so old fashioned that he's breathtakingly new.
Most importantly, he makes good decisions under a lot of pressure, and he is consistent. He's industrious, as of course Secretary Clinton is also.
Hillary Clinton is certainly well-connected and a great networker. She traveled more as Secretary of State than any other Secretary of State in history. She did a lot of good, no doubt, in opening avenues of conversation. But the Middle East and much of the world looks to me like it's got worse during her term as SOS. Whether this is attributable to President Obama, Secretary Clinton, or just bad luck, it's hard to say. But her personal habits, preference in long time associates, etc, etc. are less than appealing to me. I find Bernie refreshing in his treatment of the most important issues facing the new president. He's so old fashioned that he's breathtakingly new.
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Susan,
Your comments have been spot on.
Thank you for being a great voice of Sanders supporters.
Would love to read from you more.
Get! Out! and Vote!
#NotMeUs
Your comments have been spot on.
Thank you for being a great voice of Sanders supporters.
Would love to read from you more.
Get! Out! and Vote!
#NotMeUs
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"He's so old fashioned that he's breathtakingly new." has got to be the funniest thing I have read in a while. Do you really think that is a compliment to a politician who needs to get things done in 2016? He may seem NEW to people who have no frame of reference, but for the educated and experienced workers among the electorate we find him
empty of ideas but full of bump sticker rage.
empty of ideas but full of bump sticker rage.
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Bernie defines me as an energy donor to Hillary's campaign, but he wants me to identify him as a Brooklyn boy! I'm a community organizer, I started the fire department, i'm a proud union member! I helped organized The food bank and the local health & support Planned Parenthood!
When bigot's violently threatened the housing of a black family we opened our home to them for six weeks! But to pay my bills for two weeks a year I'm assistant part-time secretary in the oil companies office. I guess I should be disenfranchised!
When bigot's violently threatened the housing of a black family we opened our home to them for six weeks! But to pay my bills for two weeks a year I'm assistant part-time secretary in the oil companies office. I guess I should be disenfranchised!
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Sleeping Lady,
You might like Dr Mary Frances Berry, former chair of the US Civil Rights Commission commenting on Sanders. She had given WJC a "C" on civil rights.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/author-dr-mary-frances-be...
You might like Dr Mary Frances Berry, former chair of the US Civil Rights Commission commenting on Sanders. She had given WJC a "C" on civil rights.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/author-dr-mary-frances-be...
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Once again, shame on the NYTimes for the way it covers this campaign. Nothing on front page. Couldn't you have put a little teaser at the bottom to
turn readers' attention to the coverage in the national section? You also could have included a photo that captured the scene at St. Mary's Park in the South Bronx. Readers would have gotten a better sense of the crowds covering a hillside and another over-flow crowd in an adjacent baseball field. An inspired location that brought together a beautiful mosaic of young and old!
turn readers' attention to the coverage in the national section? You also could have included a photo that captured the scene at St. Mary's Park in the South Bronx. Readers would have gotten a better sense of the crowds covering a hillside and another over-flow crowd in an adjacent baseball field. An inspired location that brought together a beautiful mosaic of young and old!
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I was born in NYC. New York brings this election home. Most people in NYC do not live on Park Avenue. Most people in NYC are not chauffeured to work in limos. New Yorkers live with the uber wealthy and the super poor. They know the difference. New Yorkers get along with everyone regardless of skin color, ethnicity, background, and financial status. They know Bernie Sanders is a real New Yorker. They know he will walk the streets from Madison Avenue to the South Bronx and feeing equally comfortable in both places. #BernieMadeMeWhite will be quite apparent in my beloved city. Thank you South Bronx.
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Bernie should stress two things to appeal to minority voters as he campaigns in New York: One, that he is the true New Yorker who grew up in an immigrant household while Hillary was nothing more than an opportunistic carpetbagger when she was our Senator and two, that while Hillary was a Republican Goldwater girl, Bernie was out on the streets of Chicago getting arrested for trying to desegregate housing. Bottom line, Bernie is the real deal while Hillary is an oppoportunist shill for the establishment and for herself.
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@shaggy
Unless you are a "minority" yourself, you are in no real position to speak about how Sanders should appeal to them. Being a white, Jewish immigrant is NOT the same as being a person of color, no matter how you look at it.
Another thing. Bernie's 'Civil Rights' days are long behind him. And he clearly hasn't connected with the African-American community.
Unless you are a "minority" yourself, you are in no real position to speak about how Sanders should appeal to them. Being a white, Jewish immigrant is NOT the same as being a person of color, no matter how you look at it.
Another thing. Bernie's 'Civil Rights' days are long behind him. And he clearly hasn't connected with the African-American community.
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OH yes he has connected with the African-American community and his recent polling proves it. He's winning minorities in Wisconsin right now. And for you to state that his civil rights days are long behind him is a profound insult. Sanders has been for civil rights for all for his entire public life and probably before it.
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Please learn more about Bernie because you remarks reflect you lack of knowledge of his background. He connects very well with African Americans and other ethic groups when they give him a fair hearing. Many of them are unfamiliar with what Democrats proposed during the terms of FDR, Truman, RFK, and Lyndon Johnson - who fought for a more equal distribution of wealth, equal rights for minorities and women, and against poverty. Jews were on the front battleground for civil rights in the south when it was very dangerous, and some of them were arrested (inclufding Bernie) and killed. He has worked hard in Vermont because that's where he lived. He has done a great job in Congress and the Senate.
Both Democratic candidates have their strengths and weaknesses. Get you facts straight before you submit your ballot.
Both Democratic candidates have their strengths and weaknesses. Get you facts straight before you submit your ballot.
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Hogwash to say Sen Sanders has done "minor" things. ALSO never enriched himself at anyone's expense. Integrity.
"Sen Bernie Sanders is one of the most productive members of Congress. Although his insistence on being an Independent induced criticism from both Republicans and Democrats—and few thought he would last long without bowing to one political party—Mr. Sanders has defied naysayers with a career spanning nearly three decades.
Dubbed the ‘amendment king,’ Mr. Sanders passed more amendments than any other member of Congress during his 16 years in the House of Representatives—despite Republicans holding a majority between 1994 and 2006. He kicked off his political career with an amendment to start a National Program of Cancer registries, which is now maintained by all 50 states. In 2001, he successfully passed an amendment to the general appropriations bill which banned the importation of goods made with child labor, and passed an amendment to increase funding by $100 million for community health centers.
“During this time Sanders took on powerful adversaries Lockheed Martin Westinghouse the Export-Import Bank the Bush Administration," in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. “And by using the basic tools of democracy-floor votes on clearly posed questions, with the aid of painstakingly built coalitions of allies from both sides of the aisle-he, a lone Independent, beat them all.”http://observer.com/2016/03/how-bernie-gets-things-done-in-congress-with...
"Sen Bernie Sanders is one of the most productive members of Congress. Although his insistence on being an Independent induced criticism from both Republicans and Democrats—and few thought he would last long without bowing to one political party—Mr. Sanders has defied naysayers with a career spanning nearly three decades.
Dubbed the ‘amendment king,’ Mr. Sanders passed more amendments than any other member of Congress during his 16 years in the House of Representatives—despite Republicans holding a majority between 1994 and 2006. He kicked off his political career with an amendment to start a National Program of Cancer registries, which is now maintained by all 50 states. In 2001, he successfully passed an amendment to the general appropriations bill which banned the importation of goods made with child labor, and passed an amendment to increase funding by $100 million for community health centers.
“During this time Sanders took on powerful adversaries Lockheed Martin Westinghouse the Export-Import Bank the Bush Administration," in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. “And by using the basic tools of democracy-floor votes on clearly posed questions, with the aid of painstakingly built coalitions of allies from both sides of the aisle-he, a lone Independent, beat them all.”http://observer.com/2016/03/how-bernie-gets-things-done-in-congress-with...
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Now why would Donald son-in-law tout Bernie - don't be naive. Trump fears Hillary. He intends to incinerate Sanders as a commie. Sanders hasn't a clue what's coming. Nor can he deny being a socialist - good luck with the "isn't the same thing" narrative.
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1/4 of one penny per electronically traded stock ( Wall Street Speculation ) brings in enough money to pay for State College or Community college tuition for our children with enough left over to refinance our kids existing student loans down to very low interest. What is wrong with you people? Bernie is giving us real answers to hard questions. Use your heads. Hillary doesn't want to burden Wall Street with this UGE tax. Give me a break.
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Take Hillary out of your narrative Gene. Now, explain to us all how Bernie gets the other folks in the congress and the senate to support his tax on Wall St. electronic trades? Tell us again, how he will actually be able to ensure how that money is spent. Come again, I can't hear you?
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Bernie will inspire other candidates to run down office from the Presidency who will be elected to transform the House and the Senate. In addition, the people who have spent all day responding to these comments on this article in the NYTimes will remain active for President Sanders and like minded candidates at all levels of government after he is elected. We will demonstrate that its possible for diligent, well-informed Americans to do what is required to make our government fair again, to make our economy fork for all again. It's was done before, and we can do it again. Bernie says he will not disband his digital soldiers as our former heroic candidate Barack Obama did when we worked so hard to elect him in 2008 and he blew us off as soon as he was sworn in and appointed Tim Geithner Secretary of the Treasury over our strong objections. I believe Bernie. I believe that, unlike Obama, Sanders will call upon the rank and file of Americans to speak up to change our country as it needs to be changed and that we, the real patriots of American, including many of the Hillary supporters in this column today, will do what it takes to change these laws. The Republicans are in a rout because their media has misrepresented reality to them for years. This is still a democracy and the people can take back their government and make it represent all of the people if we work together and respect each other.
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The usual NY Times bias against Bernie is showing. A rally in the NY Times home area (yes, the Bronx is in New York) attended by over 18,000 individuals should have merited a front page headline. Instead, the news is relegated to a short paragraph of an article on the inner pages.
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The Youth are the Future and all that but here is an 80 year old saying Bernie is a gift and we will not see another like him for a very long time. I can remember FDR and Harry and Jimmy and JFK and LBJ and also when the Dem. Party began to wonder off in a Rep. direction misnamed The Center and finally a time has come to find a way back and Bernie is able to stand there with his fluffy grey hair and say things that ring true and young and old know what the message is and know, with true leadership, it can be done.
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In regards to constituent service , NY Senator Hillary Clinton left much to desired. When a graduate student of mine was denied remittance on the US after visiting her parents in January in China in 2002 and told she meeded special clareance to return because she worked on nano science, then considered a a sensitive subject , a clearance that could take months to obtain, i asked Senator Clinton's office for assistance . I did not hear from her office until April.
On the other hand , the office of Congress member Amo Houghton (R) responded immediately and had the student back in 3 weeks,
On the other hand , the office of Congress member Amo Houghton (R) responded immediately and had the student back in 3 weeks,
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Bernie is as Brooklyn as the Dodgers.
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And Hillary is as New York as a razorback.
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You are wrong. Bernie has almost never been to Los Angeles whereas the Dodgers moved there for more money. I would say that Hillary Clinton was much more like the Dodgers - she's always going to Los Angeles for more money and has been since the first (Bill) Clinton campaign. Hollywooders regularly stayed at the White House during Bill Clinton's presidency. It is hard to imagine Sanders every selling bedrooms at the White House unless it was through AirBnB and he would donate the money to housing poor people...
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LOL.
Brilliant, Susan.
Brilliant, Susan.
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Can anyone name any meaningful achievements of Bernie during his political career? I didn't think so. What make you think he can suddenly get something done? He is a Lone Wolf who is good at voicing his opinions, but that's about it. He has few allies in Washington because he's criticized all of them. Bernie Bros won't be there, Bernie's Kids won't be, either.
BTW, The black and latino communities want and trust Hillary because they know her. She shined at The Apollo Theater in Harlem. They don't know 'Bernie Sanders from Vermont.' He hasn't cultivated relationships with people or communities, and that is one of his weaknesses. It's also one of Hillary's strengths. And it will serve her well in the White House.
BTW, The black and latino communities want and trust Hillary because they know her. She shined at The Apollo Theater in Harlem. They don't know 'Bernie Sanders from Vermont.' He hasn't cultivated relationships with people or communities, and that is one of his weaknesses. It's also one of Hillary's strengths. And it will serve her well in the White House.
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Look at the photos of that rally. There were many black and Latino people there. His ratings with them are on the rise as hers are falling. Try to keep up.
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Yes. Check out Wikipedia, Bernie's web site, google him. It's not hard to see his achievments. He has achieved at all levels of government.
Can you tell me what Hillary Clinton achieved as Senator of New York and Secretary of State? Both positively and negatively. Try googling African Americans and Clintons, for example and find the benchmarks.
Can you tell me what Hillary Clinton achieved as Senator of New York and Secretary of State? Both positively and negatively. Try googling African Americans and Clintons, for example and find the benchmarks.
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Really more lies NYT?? "The poll showed Mrs. Clinton doing best among women and older voters, with Mr. Sanders beating her among men and with “very liberal” voters." So the women and minorities are the "very liberal voters"?
Last time I checked Bernie had most women 18-34! This population also represents the highest population in the United States referred to as millennials.
Way to skew and marginalize entire groups of people. And let me make this clear Bernie Sanders Doesn't need to stress his Brooklyn/New York roots. He is NEW YORK'S NATIVE SON! Welcome home Bernie sanders we love you :D
Last time I checked Bernie had most women 18-34! This population also represents the highest population in the United States referred to as millennials.
Way to skew and marginalize entire groups of people. And let me make this clear Bernie Sanders Doesn't need to stress his Brooklyn/New York roots. He is NEW YORK'S NATIVE SON! Welcome home Bernie sanders we love you :D
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thank you Yamiche for this article . I had almost stopped reading nytimes . Would be great if you write a follow up article on the changing demographs of Bernie Sanders amongst the minority voters .
Being a non American Bernie Sanders supporter, I would
also like to read on Sanders supporters outside of America.
Being a non American Bernie Sanders supporter, I would
also like to read on Sanders supporters outside of America.
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Brooklyn Centric New York Times proves once again it's all about Brooklyn even in the Bronx.
The argument Hillary and her testy associates are peddling to convince Bernie's supporters to give up the ghost and vote for her is exactly the same argument Hillary's failed campaign made in 2008 when Hillary & Co. claimed that the Obama campaign wasn't "realistic" and that Obama wasn't "electable." On the stump in 2007, Bill Clinton angrily characterized the Obama campaign as the "biggest fairytale I've ever seen" and said to a friend "a few years ago this guy would've been getting us coffee."
The obnoxious dismissing of Bernie? They did it to Obama before him.
All the guilt-tripping and shaming of Bernie's supporters now as "obnoxious," "too young to know better," "unrealistic" and "they just want free stuff" - please remember the Clintons and their surrogates threw down exactly these same arguments to 'win over' Obama supporters in 2007. And look how wrong they were! (and it didn't work then either....) Bill Clinton made comments that were perilously close to racism and Hillary was so exasperated about Obama gaining on her that she broke down and wept sitting with a group of women supporters in a New Hampshire diner. She isn't a gracious loser.
Eyes on the prize.
Go Bernie!
The obnoxious dismissing of Bernie? They did it to Obama before him.
All the guilt-tripping and shaming of Bernie's supporters now as "obnoxious," "too young to know better," "unrealistic" and "they just want free stuff" - please remember the Clintons and their surrogates threw down exactly these same arguments to 'win over' Obama supporters in 2007. And look how wrong they were! (and it didn't work then either....) Bill Clinton made comments that were perilously close to racism and Hillary was so exasperated about Obama gaining on her that she broke down and wept sitting with a group of women supporters in a New Hampshire diner. She isn't a gracious loser.
Eyes on the prize.
Go Bernie!
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If you supported Obama against Clinton then how do you deal with the fact that Obama says it is now time to unite behind Clinton?
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Actually Hillary was asked to work for Obama and did. But, never mind those facts or that Bernie hates Obama. Keep on drinking that Kool aid.
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Obama said coalesce behind the winning candidate. If that turns out to be Bernie, I am sure he will say the same thing. Obama wants the Democratic candidate to win to protect his own legacy. Be fair.
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Bernie Sanders a protest candidate and not a main street candidate. He can only win over his supporters by tearing down his opponent and trying to tie her to the financial industry and the fossil fuel industry and blaming her for all the bad trade deals even though she was not even in office to vote one way or another on those deals.
Do any of Sanders supporters actually think he can implement his economic plans without a "revolution." What is his international experience? What does he have going for him besides protesting about the inequality in our economic system?
Do any of Sanders supporters actually think he can implement his economic plans without a "revolution." What is his international experience? What does he have going for him besides protesting about the inequality in our economic system?
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Get real. Main Street is fed up with Wall Street and she is toast.
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Have you checked the down offices where young Democrats are joining the party and running for office. Bernie is not the only person who wants this "revolution." That's his term. I woujld call it more of a return to core values of the Democratic party. There are young Democrats stepping up to the plate to take the Senate and House back - and run for local office in their home states and cities.
Bernie inspires his followers. Hillary gathers candidates based on her length of service and prestige - and web of rich supporters who will stand by her in the national contest. Bernie is relying more of millions of small, usually inactive supporters, just as Barack Obama did. Except that Bernie has about 4 times the experience and ability to work across the aisle in Congress that Barack Obama had.
Too bad Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist. He is so stubborn. What is really is a traditional Democrat like Frankling Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson - someone who wants to make working people earn enough to live on. That is SUCH a radical idea today that it's called a revolution but it's really a return to the core values of democracy and the Democratic Party.
Vermont is a purple state - a combination of Republicans and Democrats. It has one Democratic Senator (Bernie) and one Republican Senator. Bernie gets 70% of the vote in his statewide elections. THAT means he attracts Republican votes testifies to his ability to work with both parties. He's just what we need.
Bernie inspires his followers. Hillary gathers candidates based on her length of service and prestige - and web of rich supporters who will stand by her in the national contest. Bernie is relying more of millions of small, usually inactive supporters, just as Barack Obama did. Except that Bernie has about 4 times the experience and ability to work across the aisle in Congress that Barack Obama had.
Too bad Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist. He is so stubborn. What is really is a traditional Democrat like Frankling Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson - someone who wants to make working people earn enough to live on. That is SUCH a radical idea today that it's called a revolution but it's really a return to the core values of democracy and the Democratic Party.
Vermont is a purple state - a combination of Republicans and Democrats. It has one Democratic Senator (Bernie) and one Republican Senator. Bernie gets 70% of the vote in his statewide elections. THAT means he attracts Republican votes testifies to his ability to work with both parties. He's just what we need.
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Wow. Bernie supporters need to calm down. Don't be foolish with your vote if he loses the nomination. Some of you are as bad as Republicans, practically frothing at the mouth with rage. Look at the big picture here folks.
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Debbie,
Be polite and wait for the primary to work its way.
If we are unlucky enough to have HRC as the nominee, we can "rally" around her at the convention.
You do not want the corporatist wing of the party taking Sanders voters for granted, if you want to revive our democracy.
Be polite and wait for the primary to work its way.
If we are unlucky enough to have HRC as the nominee, we can "rally" around her at the convention.
You do not want the corporatist wing of the party taking Sanders voters for granted, if you want to revive our democracy.
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That's funny. I read these comments and think Hillary supporters need to calm down.
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We do look at the big picture and that is why we are so enthusiastically for Bernie Sanders. This is not a phase we're going to grow out of. And we are not as bad as Republicans. You are confusing us with Clinton supporters who want GOP-Lite.
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The democratic process continues; people in the remaining states will have a choice and a say as to their candidate! Based on consistency and an unwavering commitment to the middle class; exposing the wrongs of both the economic and political system; delivering a message of true economic, social and political reform, there is only one candidate who is a true progressive and has a quite endorsement from Senator Warren; hint, it's not Hillary, Goldman Sachs, Clinton, who was so broke after leaving the White House she could not afford to pay her mortgages !!!!!Hillary who've will be for or against any issue to meet her political needs; who will praise then criticize the president on his immigration policy; who will set up residency anywhere there is political opportunity; who will bend, twist and manipulate rules to fit her perception of reality; who will never answer directly but will use sophistry, obfuscations and prevarications. To all Sanders critics who say Bernie states his views on the economy till adnauseum, I say the truth is rather boring and revealing!
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I was in the St Mary's park rally in South Bronx with Bernie last night and the atmosphere was unreal. Something similar to the Super Bowl final in San Francisco.
People from all backgrounds, ethnicities, religion came together in one big melting pot.
This is what democracy is all about.
Bringing people together!
People from all backgrounds, ethnicities, religion came together in one big melting pot.
This is what democracy is all about.
Bringing people together!
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The Superbowl was in the 49ers stadium in Santa Clara. SF voters had sense enough to refuse to pay for it. Santa Clara County is predominately white with a $93k median income, not what I would call a melting pot. The demographics suggest it will definitely go for Hillary. But so will SF.
From what I've read about his supporters most can't afford to pay for the tickets to a regular season game let alone the Superbowl. But many of them did party down in SF.
Why do people ignore the fact that that a majority of the meting pot supports Hillary?
From what I've read about his supporters most can't afford to pay for the tickets to a regular season game let alone the Superbowl. But many of them did party down in SF.
Why do people ignore the fact that that a majority of the meting pot supports Hillary?
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I was referring to the Super Bowl weekend especially the party on Sat. No one sane enough would go to SC to watch the game with the long traffic lines on the 101 and the good luck hunting for parking space.
I know its not relevant but I did pay to watch Metallica in AT&T park in SF, just to rebuke that we are normal people and not a bunch of free loaders which Hillary fans seem to have in their (aged) minds.
I know its not relevant but I did pay to watch Metallica in AT&T park in SF, just to rebuke that we are normal people and not a bunch of free loaders which Hillary fans seem to have in their (aged) minds.
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If Hillary Clinton refuses to debate Bernie Sanders in New York prior to the Democratic primary there, the New York Times Editorial Board should republish its Feb. 25 editorial entitled "Mrs. Clinton, Show Voters Those Transcripts," and demand a substantive response from her.
"Public interest in these speeches is legitimate, and it is the public — not the candidate — who decides how much disclosure is enough. By stonewalling on these transcripts Mrs. Clinton plays into the hands of those who say she’s not trustworthy and makes her own rules. Most important, she is damaging her credibility among Democrats who are begging her to show them that she’d run an accountable and transparent White House."
She has stated that she would gladly release the transcripts of “these 51 speeches to banks and other groups and industries” for which she was compensated “$11 million in 2014 and the first quarter of 2015” if, and only if, all the other presidential candidates, both Republican and Democratic, would do so.
The editorial addressed the basis for her standing refusal to release the transcripts as follows:
"Her conditioning her releases on what the Republicans might or might not do is mystifying. Republicans make no bones about their commitment to Wall Street deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Mrs. Clinton is laboring to convince struggling Americans that she will rein in big banks, despite taking their money."
What did Hillary Clinton say to Wall Street?
"Public interest in these speeches is legitimate, and it is the public — not the candidate — who decides how much disclosure is enough. By stonewalling on these transcripts Mrs. Clinton plays into the hands of those who say she’s not trustworthy and makes her own rules. Most important, she is damaging her credibility among Democrats who are begging her to show them that she’d run an accountable and transparent White House."
She has stated that she would gladly release the transcripts of “these 51 speeches to banks and other groups and industries” for which she was compensated “$11 million in 2014 and the first quarter of 2015” if, and only if, all the other presidential candidates, both Republican and Democratic, would do so.
The editorial addressed the basis for her standing refusal to release the transcripts as follows:
"Her conditioning her releases on what the Republicans might or might not do is mystifying. Republicans make no bones about their commitment to Wall Street deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Mrs. Clinton is laboring to convince struggling Americans that she will rein in big banks, despite taking their money."
What did Hillary Clinton say to Wall Street?
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Only important point here, that hasn't really been mentioned, is that the "Brooklyn Roots" that Bernie might be relying upon, are essentially just a memory! The Brooklyn Bernie grew up in, does not exist anymore! I'm not going to write that it ended when the Dodgers left, cause much as that was a turning point for us Brooklynites, the flavor and culture of that special place (especially, south of Prospect Park, where Bernie was from!) still lingered through much of the late 1970's, and very early 1980's! However there has been a profound change in demographics since then, and though booming, and the sun still shines in that special way, the people Bernie might be relying upon, are just not around these parts, in their huge numbers anymore! How do I know this?! Well after sixty three years, I'm one of the very few left, and I walk, and get around my beloved borough, a whole lot.
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Why does the NYT constantly refer to the "young" vote as if it doesn't count as much as other categories?
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Probably because the youth vote is not as reliable, often younger voters don't bother to come out and actually cast a vote. The older the voter, the more likely they are to vote.
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Obama was elected on the promise of change, but he didn’t give us much of it, so America is now into eight years of longing for that change. A lingering longing that helped to propel Bernie and Trump to prominence. America wants that change so much that it will take it in any extreme form it may come. Hillary is the personification of the status quo, so no change there. In the General America will pick the candidate that offers change, whether that change comes from hate or reason will depend on what is offered to Americans. The DNC and corporate media are helping to ensure that change will come from the anarchy of a President Trump, instead of a peaceful revolution offered through Bernie. Stick us with Hillary and we will probably screw you with Trump.
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The change President Obama gave us was reversing the disaster that was left to us by the Bush Administration and keeping us from going over a cliff and inspired legislation to prevent future economic disasters. President Obama also gave us a healthcare plan that Presidents since Harry Truman have been trying to do. He also, with Secretary Hillary Clinton's brilliant accomplishments, rebuilt the tattered international relationships that Bush all but destroyed and built new ones. He reopened relationships in the Asia Pacific area and established a presence that has held China at bay.
These are pretty amazing changes domestically and internationally if you ask me. And, with Hillary in the Oval Office, she will build on these accomplishments, and I am convinced that her Presidcency will usher in an American Renaissance.
These are pretty amazing changes domestically and internationally if you ask me. And, with Hillary in the Oval Office, she will build on these accomplishments, and I am convinced that her Presidcency will usher in an American Renaissance.
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Great article. This gives me a rare opportunity to comment on the primaries and to suggest that NY host a nationally televised debate so that we can be better exposed to these two candidates. One who will be the President of the United States. We want to know more and at least two debates should be held before these important State primaries. The interests of the US will be better served by a debate.
There are some very important issues that must be resolved that will provide Americans with a higher quality of living. Everyone knows that income inequality has not improved and productivity is slowing. We need to discuss approaches in policies and changes in existing law to resolve some of these domestic and trade problems.
I am interested in transportation. Ours is inefficient and must be improved. I am hoping that these two candidates pick up on the suggestion of the late Senator Pat Moynihan of New York who proposed that we build a 300 mph, all-weather superconducting Maglev system for passengers and freight along the Interstate Highway rights-of-way and along our railways as they enter our cities. Superconducting Maglev was invented in NY by Drs. James Powell and Gordon Danby, two scientists at Brookhaven National Lab. The Lab recently celebrated the 50th anniversary of this remarkable technology which can operate as a monorail or on commuter rail adapted for Maglev. https://www.bnl.gov/video/index.php?v=514. Maglev can make the economy more efficient.
There are some very important issues that must be resolved that will provide Americans with a higher quality of living. Everyone knows that income inequality has not improved and productivity is slowing. We need to discuss approaches in policies and changes in existing law to resolve some of these domestic and trade problems.
I am interested in transportation. Ours is inefficient and must be improved. I am hoping that these two candidates pick up on the suggestion of the late Senator Pat Moynihan of New York who proposed that we build a 300 mph, all-weather superconducting Maglev system for passengers and freight along the Interstate Highway rights-of-way and along our railways as they enter our cities. Superconducting Maglev was invented in NY by Drs. James Powell and Gordon Danby, two scientists at Brookhaven National Lab. The Lab recently celebrated the 50th anniversary of this remarkable technology which can operate as a monorail or on commuter rail adapted for Maglev. https://www.bnl.gov/video/index.php?v=514. Maglev can make the economy more efficient.
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I don't understand where the perception of older voters not liking Bernie comes from. I'm 84. Among my peers, Bernie is highly regarded. We are old enough to have witnessed personally the cynical, massive,enrichment of the one percent at the expense of the middle class. Having seen is to believe. We believe in Bernie.
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I am firmly behind Bernie Sanders for President. I will not vote for HRC. To all those HRC supporters who call my position "bonkers", do the math. I doubt Hillary can rally more than 23% of the electorate as committed to her candidacy. If HRC supporters are truly afraid of a Trump Presidency, the solution is simple. Vote for Bernie for DNC nominee. Otherwise, A VOTE FOR HILLARY BECOMES A VOTE FOR TRUMP.
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You do the math. Hillary has already gotten more votes than any other candidate so far in the primary season, Bernie included. And if Trump is her opponent, women will swarm to her. Bernie and Trump have this in common - they both attract mostly male voters. And the storied sexism of the liberal male is on full display in this election.
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This woman will never "swarm" to Hillary Clinton. I didn't like her in 2008 and I don't like her now, no matter how much she changes her positions every time Sanders speaks.
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A vote for Hillary is a vote for Trump, or Cruz or whoever the GOP clown nominee turns out to be. This is simply a fact, not sexism.
Signed,
a woman
Signed,
a woman
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Unlike any of the other candidates of either party, Bernie Sanders has earned my trust.
He is true to his values and to himself. He has integrity.
For me, that is the bottom line.
I will be proud to cast my vote for Bernie Sanders.
He is true to his values and to himself. He has integrity.
For me, that is the bottom line.
I will be proud to cast my vote for Bernie Sanders.
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Hillary fights to convince New Yorkers that she is one of them because she worked there for a couple years. Bernie speaks and it is obvious he is from brooklyn, its a YUGE difference. He doesnt need to stress it. You can take the Democratic Socialist outta Brooklyn, but you cannot take the Brooklyn outta the Democratic Socialist.
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She's probably hiring a speech coach even as we discuss this.
What is wrong with people? This ancient, 74-yr-old white man can't even stand up straight at a podium and people want him for president? Really, what is wrong with people?
This is the real Bernie Sanders: A lousy 26-yr Congressional record, a history as a bellicose, not-well-liked non-starter whose "greatest" moment in Congress was renaming a local post office, and who is an Independent with DEEP gun-lobby ties and questionable libertarian leanings.
This picture of white male privilege, whose scorched-earth language aimed at gullible college-students and the bird-brained former Nader supporter Susan Sarandon (btw, thanks for DUBYA), is not a tenable or sensible candidate, however much you poorly informed Bernie supporters wish him to be. Magical thinking has no place in elections.
Sanders is doing an extraordinary disservice to the Democratic Party by co-opting it for his inexplicably selfish and ego-driven campaign. This guy is no guru--he's just another old white man terrified of ageing who is willing to ruin the lives of others for a fantasy moment of greatness while halfway to death's door.
Sorry, but your Emperor Bernie has no clothes.
This is the real Bernie Sanders: A lousy 26-yr Congressional record, a history as a bellicose, not-well-liked non-starter whose "greatest" moment in Congress was renaming a local post office, and who is an Independent with DEEP gun-lobby ties and questionable libertarian leanings.
This picture of white male privilege, whose scorched-earth language aimed at gullible college-students and the bird-brained former Nader supporter Susan Sarandon (btw, thanks for DUBYA), is not a tenable or sensible candidate, however much you poorly informed Bernie supporters wish him to be. Magical thinking has no place in elections.
Sanders is doing an extraordinary disservice to the Democratic Party by co-opting it for his inexplicably selfish and ego-driven campaign. This guy is no guru--he's just another old white man terrified of ageing who is willing to ruin the lives of others for a fantasy moment of greatness while halfway to death's door.
Sorry, but your Emperor Bernie has no clothes.
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Is that why Bernie got 80% of the expat vote?
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@Clark
See, this is exactly what you Bernie people do that is so obnoxious and childish: you manipulate information you know to be untrue and claim it as true.
The truth is, apart from only ONE expat group queried and quoted (incorrectly) there is NO census or poll of all expat primary voters to say nothing of the fact that many thousands have not even voted in primaries yet, myself included.
The moral here is this: there's enough lying by Republicans so please stop your lying and your carelessly tossing about of untrue information whether it's about Hillary's record or the true make-up of expat voters.
It's nonsense like this that really turns people off (other than other tone-deaf Bernie supporters) about Sanders and, particularly, the infantile and disingenuous behavior of many of his supporters.
I can't wait till the nonsense is over. You Bernie Bros are worse than Trump's horrible supporters and I'm really going to enjoy Hillary being President Hillary Rodham Clinton.
See, this is exactly what you Bernie people do that is so obnoxious and childish: you manipulate information you know to be untrue and claim it as true.
The truth is, apart from only ONE expat group queried and quoted (incorrectly) there is NO census or poll of all expat primary voters to say nothing of the fact that many thousands have not even voted in primaries yet, myself included.
The moral here is this: there's enough lying by Republicans so please stop your lying and your carelessly tossing about of untrue information whether it's about Hillary's record or the true make-up of expat voters.
It's nonsense like this that really turns people off (other than other tone-deaf Bernie supporters) about Sanders and, particularly, the infantile and disingenuous behavior of many of his supporters.
I can't wait till the nonsense is over. You Bernie Bros are worse than Trump's horrible supporters and I'm really going to enjoy Hillary being President Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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I was born in Brooklyn and wound up living in Vermont for 30 years, with many stops along the way. I always attributed that to where my education and jobs took me. Still have that New York accent just like one of the candidates.
I met Senator Sanders in 2009 at the annual Brattleboro Strolling of the Heifers parade. He was walking the fairgrounds with a granddaughter, no handlers, no press, no bodyguards, no pr people with him. Agreed to a photo only after I told him it was for my daughter, a big fan. Great photo, wish I could post it here.
Now to the media bias: Every time that Trump and/or Cruz put their feet in their mouths, the media circus turn to Hillary for a comment, "the front runner" and reiterating her lead as if unassailable, and ignoring Bernie Sanders. Each decision that they make to exclude Bernie Sanders from the conversation, is a financial donation to Clinton's campaign. Even the placement of the news of his successes (or hers), the use of photos, captions and titles for the articles, illustrates the press bias. I hope that somewhere a sociology/poli-sci/marketing professor and his grad students are recording how this campaign coverage is unfolding. What do the big national news anchors and producers earn each year and what a fair tax will cost them personally if Bernie is elected? Media corporate taxes?
Shoot the messenger, if the messenger is shaping the message.
Oh yeah Hillary, Choose a borough, choose a time and have that debate...
I met Senator Sanders in 2009 at the annual Brattleboro Strolling of the Heifers parade. He was walking the fairgrounds with a granddaughter, no handlers, no press, no bodyguards, no pr people with him. Agreed to a photo only after I told him it was for my daughter, a big fan. Great photo, wish I could post it here.
Now to the media bias: Every time that Trump and/or Cruz put their feet in their mouths, the media circus turn to Hillary for a comment, "the front runner" and reiterating her lead as if unassailable, and ignoring Bernie Sanders. Each decision that they make to exclude Bernie Sanders from the conversation, is a financial donation to Clinton's campaign. Even the placement of the news of his successes (or hers), the use of photos, captions and titles for the articles, illustrates the press bias. I hope that somewhere a sociology/poli-sci/marketing professor and his grad students are recording how this campaign coverage is unfolding. What do the big national news anchors and producers earn each year and what a fair tax will cost them personally if Bernie is elected? Media corporate taxes?
Shoot the messenger, if the messenger is shaping the message.
Oh yeah Hillary, Choose a borough, choose a time and have that debate...
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Hey Bernie. We small business owners with families (ya know, the tax base) want a Pragmatist- Someone that will b able to navigate the business world and the private world without alienating anyone. As a New Yorker with a young family that relies heavily on the one percent to pay my wages I have to ask " who will paymy 21k a year for full time daycare bill if you they go away? Will you? No thanks bernie. Save it not intereted
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Many, of course, argue that bernie is aiming too high.
Well, President Obama aimed VERY high, and not all of what he promised was delivered. So, should Obama have aimed LOW? I think not.
Bernie, by aiming high, by being the only person in the race who is not beholden to--and/or part of--Big Money, is far the best choice for people who want the Government to work for the Average Joe and Average Jane.
The others--just more of the "old white guy" establishment.
Well, President Obama aimed VERY high, and not all of what he promised was delivered. So, should Obama have aimed LOW? I think not.
Bernie, by aiming high, by being the only person in the race who is not beholden to--and/or part of--Big Money, is far the best choice for people who want the Government to work for the Average Joe and Average Jane.
The others--just more of the "old white guy" establishment.
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And then there's Hillary Clinton, who runs on "no we can't." and "it's hard!" How that uninspiring, depressing, low expectations managing messaging is supposed to power a large turnout for her baffles me.
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Regardless of who you support, the fact that 20,000 people went to listen to Bernie Sanders in a Bronx public park and fails to make the front page of the NYT, while two stories about Donald Trump are displayed prominently there, tells you all you need to know about the media coverage.
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I am an expat who votes in Vermont by absentee ballot. Like many of my fellow Vermonters, I have been voting for Bernie Sanders for many years. He has taken the best from whatever his environment has offered him --Brooklyn, Chicago, Vermont-- and given it back to the people in the form of his commitment to thoughtful and innovative ideas.
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I was there last night and it truly warmed my heart to see so many DIFFERENT people there. Amazing....
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It's so wonderful to see young people getting involved in politics for a change. It's so moving to see them so fired up. But the painful truth is their man is promising things he can't deliver and they are going to be disappointed in the end. He's just another dreamer who's revving everybody up with the old lines about how the rich are evil and the middle class is going to revolt. Ay ay ay. There's a reason older people aren't falling under Bernie's spell. We know the truth: dreamers just slow everything down. I'm going with the realist who will at least hit the ground with her head on straight.
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You don't speak for all older people. I'm over 60 and voting for Sanders. Clinton's "realism" = status quo and that is not good enough.
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I honestly believe that there is not one Sanders supporter that would be disappointed because he didn't deliver on everything he promised. If he gets a fraction of what he proposes we will all be much better off.
There's a reason this older person is voting for Sanders. His agenda is the one (the only one that I can realistically see) that will benefit my children and grandchildren.
There's a reason this older person is voting for Sanders. His agenda is the one (the only one that I can realistically see) that will benefit my children and grandchildren.
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Political and social change emanates from persistent pressure for a just world, not settling for what is “realistic” before even getting to the negotiating table.
If liberals and progressives support a $15 per-hour minimum wage, universally accessible health care, fair taxes on corporations and wealth, and meaningful reforms of Wall Street and campaign finance, they should elect a president who actually fights for these things. Sanders has spent his whole political life in pursuit of these ideals, and his campaign has moved these conversations to the fore; Clinton’s record on the other hand shows a consistent pattern of following, not leading on these issues. Clinton’s brand of pragmatism surrenders progressive change to centrism even before negotiations begin.
Change is not, as Clinton has claimed, a matter of “magical” thinking or waving a “wand”—it is about pushing ideas, building movements, and challenging the status quo. Even before the general election, Clinton is campaigning on a deflating and defeatist politics of half-a-loaf “pragmatism,” aiming lower on minimum wage, opposing free college, opposing single-payer health care. With Sanders, there is no question he will push for meaningful progressive change. No candidate can guarantee passage of their platform—but at least Sanders makes change possible.
Vote Sanders.
If liberals and progressives support a $15 per-hour minimum wage, universally accessible health care, fair taxes on corporations and wealth, and meaningful reforms of Wall Street and campaign finance, they should elect a president who actually fights for these things. Sanders has spent his whole political life in pursuit of these ideals, and his campaign has moved these conversations to the fore; Clinton’s record on the other hand shows a consistent pattern of following, not leading on these issues. Clinton’s brand of pragmatism surrenders progressive change to centrism even before negotiations begin.
Change is not, as Clinton has claimed, a matter of “magical” thinking or waving a “wand”—it is about pushing ideas, building movements, and challenging the status quo. Even before the general election, Clinton is campaigning on a deflating and defeatist politics of half-a-loaf “pragmatism,” aiming lower on minimum wage, opposing free college, opposing single-payer health care. With Sanders, there is no question he will push for meaningful progressive change. No candidate can guarantee passage of their platform—but at least Sanders makes change possible.
Vote Sanders.
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It looks like Bernie dumped NY and left for Vermont.
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As opposed to who? Hillary from Illinois? and Arkansas? and who now lives in a fancy NYC suburb? I'm a native New Yorker. I've known many many New Yorkers. Hillary Clinton is no New Yorker.
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My mother, 91+, grew up in Brooklyn in a one-bedroom apartment. She slept on the “living room” couch. After graduating from James Madison High – like Bernie – she was able to attend Hunter College only because it was TUITION FREE. She graduated at age 19 (it was during WWII & kids studied hard then – not like all my lazy draft-exempt boomer friends at I at Ivy League schools during Viet Nam), and she started “giving back” immediately as a teacher in Bed Stuy. So yeah, Hillary – tuition free college can and did work even before you were born. BTW – Hunter College has produced two female Nobel laureates in medicine, and the CUNY campuses together have 13 Nobel laureates (12 plus one in economics). Also a Supreme Court Justice (Felix Frankfurter – Google him, folks), a former Chief of Staff and Sec of State (Colin Powell – remember him?) and Jonas Salk, inventor of the first polio vaccine (why didn’t HE win a Nobel?). So Hillary, you really still want to “play dumb” on free college tuition? We know no candidate other than Bernie would ever send his kids or grandkids to a tuition free school….
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I can tell you New Yorker's are not married to the idea the Hillary is the most electable. Hillary did not move to New York City from Arkansas to be near the Atlantic Ocean. She moved to where the money is, Wall Street. Smart move on her part and Bill's, she has amassed a fortune from the very people who have disparaged her in the past. If that doesn't raise a red flag for you, nothing will!
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There's video on Drudge showing Hillary shouting at someone asking about her taking $$ from the gas industry: "I'm SICK SICK of Sanders lying about that!" Yet dozens of representatives of the gas industry donated money to Hillary.
This election is a game change for the country & the Democrats. Half of Democrats have notified the DNC & Wasserman-Schultz we don't want the party of millionaires & lobbyists like her (a shill for insurance and for profit prison industries).
I've campaigned for & voted Democratic for years. I'm done. The DNC's owned by wealthy elites - like the GOP. The DNC manipulated this campaign for Hillary's benefit, not caring about the people. That's why we have 30 million still without health insurance. Hillary's the corrupt past - a candidate who takes $ millions from Goldman Sach.
From CNN: "Total Hillary speech income from April 2013 - March 2015: $21,648,000.
Seriously, folks?
David Brooks says he missed the rise of Trump because he wasn't listening to people who were struggling. Which is 1/2 of all Americans.
This arrogance & blindness also plagues the DNC.
The young people supporting Bernie are the future - if not of the Democratic Party that insults & rejects them, then a party that supports democracy. People have a chance to change this system - maybe by rejecting the 2 establishment parties.
It's time for an alternative.
Thanks to Bernie for showing us reality. And giving us reason to hope things can change.
Go Bernie. Fingers X'd.
This election is a game change for the country & the Democrats. Half of Democrats have notified the DNC & Wasserman-Schultz we don't want the party of millionaires & lobbyists like her (a shill for insurance and for profit prison industries).
I've campaigned for & voted Democratic for years. I'm done. The DNC's owned by wealthy elites - like the GOP. The DNC manipulated this campaign for Hillary's benefit, not caring about the people. That's why we have 30 million still without health insurance. Hillary's the corrupt past - a candidate who takes $ millions from Goldman Sach.
From CNN: "Total Hillary speech income from April 2013 - March 2015: $21,648,000.
Seriously, folks?
David Brooks says he missed the rise of Trump because he wasn't listening to people who were struggling. Which is 1/2 of all Americans.
This arrogance & blindness also plagues the DNC.
The young people supporting Bernie are the future - if not of the Democratic Party that insults & rejects them, then a party that supports democracy. People have a chance to change this system - maybe by rejecting the 2 establishment parties.
It's time for an alternative.
Thanks to Bernie for showing us reality. And giving us reason to hope things can change.
Go Bernie. Fingers X'd.
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You can't say it's time for an alternative unless you've lived and voted through times when there wasn't. I mean; you can, but it lacks authority. Despite your tone.
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We haven't had a real alternative for decades. You must be very young.
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It's funny to see how people never learn that politicians can say anything to win elections. A basic smell test could reveal that Bernie's so called "revolution" is a mirage. The numbers don't stack up, he has zero experience or credibility in delivering anything meaningful and there isn't a single large country in the world where socialist policies have succeeded. Just 24 months back a French politician said the same things and his approval ratings are at am all time low. The Nordic model is fundamentally different than America's culture or history and Denmark is a bit smaller than the USA. And these are the exhibit A and B of socialism. Let's not discuss Soviet Union or Venezuela. HRC may not be a paragon of virtue but at least somewhat realistic with some credible experience. Wake up people. There is no free lunch.
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no free lunch? okay, but maybe we could have a quick snack before the plane goes down?
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"It's funny to see how people never learn that politicians can say anything to win elections." Exhibit A and B in this case would be Billary. Sheesh.
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I respect and understand the enthusiasm for Senator Sanders. Unfortunately, his POPULIST discourse and his call for a citizen's political REVOLUTION resembles the proposals of the now famous "Socialists of the XXI Century" in Latin America that he admires. Great promises are made of free health and education" for all.” A simplistic rhetoric of "rich versus poor " is used and they present themselves as " pure and honest" against the “establishment and corrupt political parties”. It ends up attacking the free expression of anyone who does not think alike or questions the viability of their proposals and promotes division and intolerance. Under this new socialist trend in Argentina , Brazil, Bolivia , Ecuador , Nicaragua , and Venezuela limited progress was achieved but democracy was weakened, economies destroyed together with the dreams of those of us who enthusiastically supported the socialist movement, especially the youth who wanted change…
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It is too bad Hillary does not have the courage or integrity to release the transcripts of her quarter million dollar speeches to Wall Street masters of the universe.
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Who is Bernie Sanders? What bills has he authored while serving in Congress?He purports to make changes for the middle class, but how will he accomplish these promises? Much of his rhetoric is fantasy and not feasible. Wall Street will never disappear. It is needed for our children's future investments and retirement. His platform would only direct us to more government control as opposed to private enterprise and incentives. His revolution is untenable. Also we need a candidate that is experienced in foreign policy matters. He lacks this knowledge and expertise. The world is much more global and complicated as opposed to his IMMIGRANT roots, which were very different back in those days.
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iborek,
We do know of the vote on the Iraq War Powers Resolution that has helped keep our economy struggling and our infrastructure declining.
Did you back HRC's vote?
We do know of the vote on the Iraq War Powers Resolution that has helped keep our economy struggling and our infrastructure declining.
Did you back HRC's vote?
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Article is misleading, like all propaganda. Bernie is winning more and more support not because he is stressing the fact that he was born and raised in Brooklyn, NY, but because he is stressing the issues that deeply affect the vast majority of American people, such as the Clinton backed trade agreements which shipped most American jobs overseas over the past 20 years, the massive redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1 percent, the perpetual and unnecessary wars supported by Clinton, the corrupt campaign system embraced by Clinton which empowers the rigged economy, the fact that the status quo which Clinton represents has completely sold out the middle class to the super wealthy. Now that the mainstream media can no longer completely ignore Bernie people are starting to find out how genuine he is and how much of a fraud Hillary is.
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I love the two articles at the top of the 'Top Stories' feed on my NYT app:
- "Bill Clinton visits the elites he schmoozes with in the Hamptons"
and
- "Bernie Sanders meets with the people in the Bronx"
Kind of sums up the whole race, doesn't it?
- "Bill Clinton visits the elites he schmoozes with in the Hamptons"
and
- "Bernie Sanders meets with the people in the Bronx"
Kind of sums up the whole race, doesn't it?
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Bill Clinton isn't running so you might want to get your head out of our election and go look at who sits on top of your culture. Hint. Not anyone who got elected.
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I find many of these comments quite disturbing. I too am a Bernie supporter. But I recognize that under no circumstance can we allow the Republicans to take the White House. The last time Democratic voters were less than enchanted with their party's presidential candidate and voted for a third-party candidate, Ralph Nader, we ended up with 8 years of George W. Bush. If i could snap my fingers 3 times and magically replace the Democratic Party with the Green Party, that would be one thing, but I can't. This is not the year for us to try. Bernie's revolution is a big enough bite to chew on for now. So if HRC gets the nomination, she gets my vote.
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I would rather die with a clear conscience than vote for a war criminal like Hillary Clinton. If she gets the nomination, I'm voting third party.
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RDA,
If (and I do mean IF) HRC does prevail, there shall be plenty of time to "rally" around her.
Until the party platform is written at the convention, it is far better for Sanders supporters to remain uncommitted.
You certainly do not want the corporatist wing of the party taking you for granted.
We need a serious platform on wealth disparity and climate change.
It wont happen unless Sanders delegates have strong leverage.
If (and I do mean IF) HRC does prevail, there shall be plenty of time to "rally" around her.
Until the party platform is written at the convention, it is far better for Sanders supporters to remain uncommitted.
You certainly do not want the corporatist wing of the party taking you for granted.
We need a serious platform on wealth disparity and climate change.
It wont happen unless Sanders delegates have strong leverage.
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Speaking as a registered independent voter who supports Bernie (I just sent another contribution this past week), I feel that under no circumstance can we allow Clinton Inc. back into the White House and if she is the candidate, I will be voting for whoever has the best chance to defeat her. If that's a Republican, so be it. As others have said, if Trump gets elected, blame the DNC for trying to ram such an obviously corrupt candidate down people's throats, not people who vote their conscience--as should everyone.
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No one, except we loyal Sanders supporters, dares comment on the incredible numbers that show up to Bernies' rallies, as opposed to the few who show up at Hillary rallies.
What an incredible breath of fresh mountain air Bernie is, he epitomizes honesty, and is genuine in all he is asking us to do as his nomination approaches.
From the beginning he told use the truth, never papering over the reality that for Washington to change, we all must come together, and force the change, not through violence, but by showing this corporate owned government we have had it with their lies. their cheating.
The way we make them tremble and fear for their jobs, is to turn out in historic numbers at every caucus and primary, and in November carry Bernie into the highest office in our land, on a landslide never before seen in our nation.
Clinton acolytes try to undercut the promise of change suggesting this Congress will be impossible to deal with; they conveniently ignore the fact that a landslide showing for Bernie, will scare them straight, as in make them realize we are will unseat them during the two midterms that will occur during Bernies two terms in office.
To repeat, and add to Bernies words, last night; "Better watch out, you corporate owned charlatans, we are coming for you".
Hillary is feeling the first pangs of fear, of being cast adrift for the last time, nevertheless I know we can depend on her supporters joining with us to prevent a Republican from gaining the White House.
What an incredible breath of fresh mountain air Bernie is, he epitomizes honesty, and is genuine in all he is asking us to do as his nomination approaches.
From the beginning he told use the truth, never papering over the reality that for Washington to change, we all must come together, and force the change, not through violence, but by showing this corporate owned government we have had it with their lies. their cheating.
The way we make them tremble and fear for their jobs, is to turn out in historic numbers at every caucus and primary, and in November carry Bernie into the highest office in our land, on a landslide never before seen in our nation.
Clinton acolytes try to undercut the promise of change suggesting this Congress will be impossible to deal with; they conveniently ignore the fact that a landslide showing for Bernie, will scare them straight, as in make them realize we are will unseat them during the two midterms that will occur during Bernies two terms in office.
To repeat, and add to Bernies words, last night; "Better watch out, you corporate owned charlatans, we are coming for you".
Hillary is feeling the first pangs of fear, of being cast adrift for the last time, nevertheless I know we can depend on her supporters joining with us to prevent a Republican from gaining the White House.
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Bernie left brooklyn in 1964.... what has he done for the city since then... Clinton Learned the state, from Buffalo and the rust belt to Fort Drum and West Point, the farms of Columbia county and the Halls of the suffragette movement and baseball hall of fame. She walked the Dutchess county fair and learned the concerns of New Yorkers... She was the Senator on 9-11 worked tirelessly for the Zadroga Bill and millions for NYC after 9-11- she went down to the pile after 9-11 to see the destruction herself....Bernie??? not so much
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Hillary Clinton left Illinois and Arkansas.
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The following is from an article NYT published yesterday. It explains why Bernie Sanders will be the winner in NY.
"Perhaps you will be pleased to know that the number of New York City households reporting incomes of more than $1 million has climbed by 47 percent, from 14,795 in 2009 to 21,764 in 2013.
Or maybe you do not see this as good news.
Whatever problems are associated with having too much money, a vast majority of New Yorkers do not have them: 87 percent of the city’s households reported wages under $100,000 in 2013, according to tax data released on Tuesday by the city’s Independent Budget Office.
The average household had wage income of $51,876. Half the city’s 3.6 million households reported wages at or under the city median of $24,239. A long, luxe ladder away, 1,315 households reported incomes of $10 million or more."
"Perhaps you will be pleased to know that the number of New York City households reporting incomes of more than $1 million has climbed by 47 percent, from 14,795 in 2009 to 21,764 in 2013.
Or maybe you do not see this as good news.
Whatever problems are associated with having too much money, a vast majority of New Yorkers do not have them: 87 percent of the city’s households reported wages under $100,000 in 2013, according to tax data released on Tuesday by the city’s Independent Budget Office.
The average household had wage income of $51,876. Half the city’s 3.6 million households reported wages at or under the city median of $24,239. A long, luxe ladder away, 1,315 households reported incomes of $10 million or more."
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Remember...Hillary is NOT a New Yorker, though she lies about that TOO! She was an interloper who used New York to become a Senator, using New York as yet another calculation in her quest for the White House! And, Bill, calculating further, set up his office in Harlem, knowing it would be another plus when she ran for President. There is nothing, nothing these two won't do for power...and a New Yorker she will never be!! Bernie is the real deal.
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Right. But Bernie isn't an interloper because he left New York for another state, and even became its Senator.
Another thing. Hands off of Harlem. We already know Sanders has a hard time getting the African-American vote
Another thing. Hands off of Harlem. We already know Sanders has a hard time getting the African-American vote
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Neither is Bernie Sanders! But, Donald Trump is a New Yorker, so should I vote for him?
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Like Bernie, I grew up in Brooklyn, lived on the upper West Side of Manhattan for 10 years in college & grad school. And like Bernie, I left for New England (Boston in my case), and subsequently, NH & NM. BUT, like Bernie,I will always be a New Yorker because the formative years, zero to 18 were spent in the city (28 for me, but that's beside the point). . One never forgets. Like the song says, NY IS a state of mind. Feel the Bern!
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Hey, Debbie W-S, this aging lifelong FDR NY Democrat can't wait to attend a Bernie Sanders rally, alongside my fellow New Yorkers, who, unlike you, don't divide/spin/catagorize ourselves. We are taught from our earliest age we are one, Americans all. Ignore me at your own peril.
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I'd call New York for Sanders if not for a few things.
1) I don't think he started his campaign early enough. His narrative will probably resonate genuinely given time but there's not much time left.
2) The primary is closed and the dates to register Democrat have passed. Many young and independent voters are probably already locked out of the contest.
3) The primary is a primary. Anyone with the foresight to mail-in a ballot has already voted. There's no chance to change their mind. Everyone else has to go wait in line. I expect they'll be long.
4) I'm already hearing stories about NY voters that went to check their registration status and found their information incorrectly recorded or lost. I'm guessing that's just New York bureaucracy at it's finest but it doesn't help Sanders.
Like all things in this contest, Sanders will probably need to overcome a significant disadvantage just to win by a narrow margin. You start going through the details and sometimes you get the feeling the system really is rigged.
That said, if Sanders pulls this one off even narrowly, it'll be a significant. If he knocks this one out of the park, it'll truly change the math. Last I checked, he needs to average above 57% in pledged delegates in all remaining States.
So far he's beating the average. Wisconsin is the next major test. New York's delegate significance might diminish based on the results. New York's uniquely outsized ego though is always constant.
1) I don't think he started his campaign early enough. His narrative will probably resonate genuinely given time but there's not much time left.
2) The primary is closed and the dates to register Democrat have passed. Many young and independent voters are probably already locked out of the contest.
3) The primary is a primary. Anyone with the foresight to mail-in a ballot has already voted. There's no chance to change their mind. Everyone else has to go wait in line. I expect they'll be long.
4) I'm already hearing stories about NY voters that went to check their registration status and found their information incorrectly recorded or lost. I'm guessing that's just New York bureaucracy at it's finest but it doesn't help Sanders.
Like all things in this contest, Sanders will probably need to overcome a significant disadvantage just to win by a narrow margin. You start going through the details and sometimes you get the feeling the system really is rigged.
That said, if Sanders pulls this one off even narrowly, it'll be a significant. If he knocks this one out of the park, it'll truly change the math. Last I checked, he needs to average above 57% in pledged delegates in all remaining States.
So far he's beating the average. Wisconsin is the next major test. New York's delegate significance might diminish based on the results. New York's uniquely outsized ego though is always constant.
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@Andy
According to the very latest polls Sanders needs not, as you say, 57% but rather 67% of ALL votes in ALL remaining primaries. This he will never do and it doesn't do any good to fudge the numbers as you have. What is is with you people and your re-writing of facts to fit your desperate Bernie narrative?
Face it, your guy CANNOT overcome the numbers and he will not win. Sanders will never in a million years be able to win 67% of ALL PRIMARY votes going forward. He's won only one non-caucus, LOL. But hey, don't let the facts get in your way.
According to the very latest polls Sanders needs not, as you say, 57% but rather 67% of ALL votes in ALL remaining primaries. This he will never do and it doesn't do any good to fudge the numbers as you have. What is is with you people and your re-writing of facts to fit your desperate Bernie narrative?
Face it, your guy CANNOT overcome the numbers and he will not win. Sanders will never in a million years be able to win 67% of ALL PRIMARY votes going forward. He's won only one non-caucus, LOL. But hey, don't let the facts get in your way.
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What planet are your really on "Eileen" or is it "debbie" in London (?)?
Sanders just won 3 Primary Caucuses LAST WEEK by more than 60% in each. He won Washington State by 70% to Hillary's 30%
That's a lot of folks.
Sure, a Sanders victory is a long shot but so was Obama's after New Hampshire. You should get your facts straight.
Sanders just won 3 Primary Caucuses LAST WEEK by more than 60% in each. He won Washington State by 70% to Hillary's 30%
That's a lot of folks.
Sure, a Sanders victory is a long shot but so was Obama's after New Hampshire. You should get your facts straight.
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All we need is an article that mentions Bernie and all the Bernie trolls come out of the woodwork. These Hillary bashing comments are stupid and insulting to any real progressives involved in the election. Get real. Hillary was the 11th most liberal senator in the entire senate. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/3/31/1374629/-Hillary-Clinton-Was-the... Well left of Obama, Biden and many other stars of the progressive movement. Sanders was the most liberal senator. Now he seems to have two types of supporters. Those who attack Hillary only from the left, but for them there is no one, except maybe Elizabeth Warren who is a pure enough leftist. They and Sanders are way left of the American people and it will show in an election. Then there are the Trump-lite Sanders supporters who attack
Hillary from both the left and the right (Bengazi, e-mail) and will stay home if Hillary wins. These characters are no benefit to progressive politics. I was earlier thrilled that someone as far left of the population as Sanders could attract huge numbers of supporters. Now I am looking for some signs that they are not all very low information voters. All I ever see is Hillary, Bill, Wasserman Schultz and Donald Trump talking points in their comments. Try getting outside the Sanders echo chamber and learn some recent history.
Hillary from both the left and the right (Bengazi, e-mail) and will stay home if Hillary wins. These characters are no benefit to progressive politics. I was earlier thrilled that someone as far left of the population as Sanders could attract huge numbers of supporters. Now I am looking for some signs that they are not all very low information voters. All I ever see is Hillary, Bill, Wasserman Schultz and Donald Trump talking points in their comments. Try getting outside the Sanders echo chamber and learn some recent history.
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In angrily responding yesterday to the Greenpeace questioner who asked her about her donations from the fossil fuel industry Clinton started to lie yet again. It appears that she started to say "I don't" and then quickly changed it to something like "I do take money..." to cover herself then ripped into the Sanders campaign for their purported "lies" about her. You can't change the truth to lies just by saying it is so and if the donors are in fact lobbyists for the fossil fuel industry then it's the unvarnished truth. As a 69 year old who has suffered through purely awful to the status quo all of my voting life Bernie is the best thing ever to come along and I dream of how great our country can be if he is President.
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The Sanders' campaign is really struggling now with all the reversals and reaches it is hard to keep up with the strategy of the week. Now Sanders thinks he can get super delegates to dump Hilary even if he doesn't have the votes (guess his campaign finally learned math).
Sort of a COMPLETE reversal from how UNFAIR his campaign said it was that Clinton had earned all the Super delegates based on her work over the years - the NERVE of her! - and now he thinks he can run a campaign for a few months and he can part the red sea and convince her supporters to betray their own knowledge in exchange for some bumper stickers and a bleachers wave.
cue to the cut and paste sanders' supporters.
Sort of a COMPLETE reversal from how UNFAIR his campaign said it was that Clinton had earned all the Super delegates based on her work over the years - the NERVE of her! - and now he thinks he can run a campaign for a few months and he can part the red sea and convince her supporters to betray their own knowledge in exchange for some bumper stickers and a bleachers wave.
cue to the cut and paste sanders' supporters.
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They dumped her last time. Just sayin
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sorry Gene, but your candidate is no Obama. He hasn't the votes from democratic voters to sway a fly. The end.
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Methinks someone's whistling past the graveyard....
Bernie Sanders is not a war-monger. He voted against the Iraq War. Bernie Sanders does not lie and pander like his Democratic opponent. Bernie Sanders gets my vote. Feel the Bern!!!!!!!!
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I am both surprised and very disappointed at many of the comments that insult Mr. Sanders by making negative references to his age. There is no place for this type of rhetoric any more than there is justification for Donald Trump's highly publicized negative comments about women.
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As Hillary Clinton has drawn away from Bernie in delegates, the Bernie supporters have gone from passionate enthusiasm for him to viscous, often personal attacks on Hillary Clinton. I have seen comments on here from a Sanders supporter calling her corrupt, untrustworthy, unethical, inauthentic, untruthful, and many more. I even saw one comment from a Sanders supporter calling her a harlot. They have also increased the whine that the media, the Democratic Party, the pollsters, and everyone who doesn't support him are against him and/or cheating him in some way. When there was an election mess caused by state officials in Arizona, they whined that Hillary had caused it to cheat Bernie and called for the DNC to not certify the delegates. Then we found out that more Clinton voters were inconvenienced than Bernie voters, and if anything, the mess cost Hillary votes.
Unfortunately, Bernie himself has also become much more negative as well and he does nothing to rein in the personal attacks of Clinton anymore. He used to stop his supporters from booing Hillary at his rallies, but now he seems to bask in it.
I used to comment asking Sanders supporters to argue about issues and leave the personal attacks out of it. But it's useless. Many say the will not support Clinton in the general election if she gets the nomination because there is no difference between her and the Republican crazies. It's the same thing Nader said about Bush and Gore, and it cost Gore the election.
Unfortunately, Bernie himself has also become much more negative as well and he does nothing to rein in the personal attacks of Clinton anymore. He used to stop his supporters from booing Hillary at his rallies, but now he seems to bask in it.
I used to comment asking Sanders supporters to argue about issues and leave the personal attacks out of it. But it's useless. Many say the will not support Clinton in the general election if she gets the nomination because there is no difference between her and the Republican crazies. It's the same thing Nader said about Bush and Gore, and it cost Gore the election.
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The Republicans I talk to say Hillary is the best Republican left in the race.
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I donated to Sanders early in the race. Then he began to use the same attacks against Hillary that the right-wing uses. I can no longer stand him or his supporters. Hillary has been getting my support for a while now, and she will continue to do so.
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This 63 year-old will not support her because she has absolutely no personal integrity, period. Her current policy positions are meaningless because once she sets foot in the WH she will instantly revert to type, and we will get some long-winded triangulated smoke-and-mirrors explanation about how she's "evolved" (if anyone can stay awake that long). So why should I waste my time even reading about them?
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"Hoodwinking Hillary" is no native daughter of NYC. Try "Carpetbagging lady" who lived everywhere where she could get ahead in her political career. "I'm not your stepping stone, Hillary.
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It looks like there's a new set of pejorative terminologies at work here...Is this also part of the "revolution"??
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N. Smith. They're really getting desperate when they start using a word like "carpetbagger" in NY.
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We arrived at a fork in the road with a true New Yorker and a pseudo New Yorker of political expediency. We either follow Hillary and continue down the path of corrupt and dysfunctional status quo even if it was adorned with the highly desirable first female President of the United States, or, we go with decency and a genuine person of the people who believes America can live up to its' ideals.
Go Bernie!
Go Bernie!
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Sorry. The "true" New Yorker was here on 9/11, and not somewhere in the Green Mountains. The "true" New Yorker represented this state, and not Vermont in the Senate. No fork here.
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It's typical you should cite the one poll where Hillary leads slightly, but not the other poll where Bernie is virtually tied with her. The negative bias of the NY Times to Sanders continues to be shockingly evident in its coverage, or often non-coverage, of his campaign. You held back an entire day reporting Bernie's crushing win over her in Hawaii, long after the networks and major world newspapers highlighted his huge win for an example. He's genuine and honest, despire being relatively unknown, and the public has the public's trust, and they are flocking to him. BE FAIR.
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“He is going to run as a Brooklynite and Hillary is going to run as a senator,” said Tad Devine, a senior strategist for Mr. Sanders’s campaign. “We are going to talk about his own story, his narrative.”
Mr. Authentic seems to have forgotten he is a Senator currently with this very strange propaganda by his low life dirty campaign operative that makes about $800,000 a month from Senator Sanders' donors, while Senator Sanders refuses to show up for his current job of being a Senator. At least now I know Sanders is not just opportunistic with the Democratic party but with pretty much everyone he encounters, as his gig seems to be how to instantly become what polls says local voters want: he is anything but authentic.
Mr. Authentic seems to have forgotten he is a Senator currently with this very strange propaganda by his low life dirty campaign operative that makes about $800,000 a month from Senator Sanders' donors, while Senator Sanders refuses to show up for his current job of being a Senator. At least now I know Sanders is not just opportunistic with the Democratic party but with pretty much everyone he encounters, as his gig seems to be how to instantly become what polls says local voters want: he is anything but authentic.
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@sleeve
"Mr. Authentic"
That's hilarious and so true. What a charade Sanders is. I'll be so happy when this nonsense is over and finally Hillary wins the White House.
"Mr. Authentic"
That's hilarious and so true. What a charade Sanders is. I'll be so happy when this nonsense is over and finally Hillary wins the White House.
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Well, of the 2 Dems in the running, Bernie's accent sure sounds local to NYC!
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We don't vote for accents here. Accents don't write and pass legislation.
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I am truly sick of Mr. Sanders' phony pandering to the "lower classes." He himself is one, and it shows. I am also sick of his Brooklyn Born Bull since he left the city -- what -- 45 years ago? and carpetbagged in Vermont. And the issue that truly vexes me is his obvious denial of being a JEW. Why is he hiding it? Yes yes, he's the son of an immigrant. A Polish JEW and he's ashamed of it? OK, he doesn't practice, but why does he choke on it? He should be proud of it, yet he hides it. And for that I am particularly ashamed, since so many of us would be happy if he promoted it more.
Mr. Sanders -- Time to leave the race to the professionals, and step aside. Please.
Mr. Sanders -- Time to leave the race to the professionals, and step aside. Please.
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I think the Trump rally is more your speed.
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You are not only rude but you are dead wrong, mr. phillips -- and I see you have a lot of time on your hands to be posting all day. A retiree in Miami and your pool is closed right now?
I'm a Hillary supporter, I'm Jewish, and a New Yorker. Bernie is not Presidential material on any level.
I'm a Hillary supporter, I'm Jewish, and a New Yorker. Bernie is not Presidential material on any level.
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@Ellen
Don't worry, you and millions of others are also tired of Sanders' nonsense and for the reasons you describe so well.
It is past time for Bernie to leave the race. I can't wait for Hillary to win the White House!
Don't worry, you and millions of others are also tired of Sanders' nonsense and for the reasons you describe so well.
It is past time for Bernie to leave the race. I can't wait for Hillary to win the White House!
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Mr. Sanders - now you want to claim you're a New Yorker. Please Sir go home to the State you represent. You don't represent NY and you never have. You now pretend because you were born in Brooklyn that you care about NY. You say you care about NY without any history of working to support New York. You will continue your delusional rhetoric of being a New Yorker until the primary results in NY are final. And then as you did in the early '70s you will abandon NY. The vast majority of NYers see through you and know you never have and do not plan to support NY. Bernie Go Home.
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Hillary was a Arkansas native when she sat on the board of Wall Mall. That is when they went away from the Made in America motto. She also had a hand in the business model that pays starvation wages while giving the new hires the paperwork to apply for food stamps.
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I was at the rally last night and what the Times failed to report is that before Bernie spoke at the rally in the main part of the park, he arrived at the area where the "overflow" - the people who were not able to get into the main field - was and spoke to us there!!!! He wasn't on a stage, he was right next to us! How many other candidates would take the time to do that?
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And Ralph Nader, also George McGovern also turned out huge crowds. How'd that work out for you?
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@Jennifer
Well said!
Well said!
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Let's nominate Hillary Clinton. After all, we don't need Bernie supporters voting for a Democratic president in 2016 -- nor do we need Independent voters or cross-over Republicans voting Democrat either.
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@Dan Stewart
You're exactly right. Real Democrats electing the REAL Democrat in the race, not some low-level has-been who isn't even a Democrat.
You're exactly right. Real Democrats electing the REAL Democrat in the race, not some low-level has-been who isn't even a Democrat.
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You ain't no New Yorker. You are a country boy from Vermont now. Don't pretend to be a New Yorker just for the election!! You don't want to be in NYC!!
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The differences are clear: one is a political hack; a carpetbagger; a democratic insider who feels entitled to the nomination; a chameleon who will change her beliefs and ideology to suit her political needs; she is dishonest, disingenuous and distant from ordinary citizens. She has taken up many of Sanders's positions, twisting and manipulating her rethoric to alter her perceptions of reality. Bernie's message is simple and genuine: the economic and political systems are corrupt; one benefits from the system; the other disassociates and distance himself from the system. One candidate epitomizes all that is wrong with the economic system: greed, self-aggrandizement and corruption. The other is a candidate of the people; an anti Wall Street crusader whose campaign is strictly financed by the people for the people! I do not engage in the false argument that Hillary is the only viable candidate. If it is a choice between Clinton or Trump or Cruz, I choose not to vote!
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IMO our choices for president stink this year.
To paraphrase what Susan Sontag once said about Camille Paglia, "Maybe Hillary Clinton, Hosni Mubarak, and Henry Kissinger should join a rock band."
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The NY primary will be Hillary's - and the NYT's/MSM's - Waterloo. The power brokers and the elite have been dismissing Sander's chances, claiming that his platform is "unrealistic". But what is actually unrealistic, is for the 1% and Corporate America continuing to bleed the working and middle class dry. Our economy is driven by consumption and demand, but without decent wages and dependable jobs, the majority of consumers can't sustain the economic growth we need. This is the fundamental reason that the recession drags on, despite rosy, wishful claims by the "experts". The Republicans and Hillary will only continue the "trickle down", supply-side economics that have crippled the fortunes of average Americans for almost four decades. It's long past time we roll those policies back!
In the past, it's been the early primary states like Iowa and NH that have set the tone for America, but now NY has a chance to have a major say, not only in the upcoming election, but for the future of America. Don't miss this chance NY!
In the past, it's been the early primary states like Iowa and NH that have set the tone for America, but now NY has a chance to have a major say, not only in the upcoming election, but for the future of America. Don't miss this chance NY!
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I lived in Burlington, after being banished from Brooklyn. Believe me, they derided me in VT for my Brooklyn roots. Always felt the pressures of being a Jew there, which is possibly a reason for his rejection of his Semitic roots. And, when people mentioned Berine's brooklynese, it was always with derision. He like Trump will do anything to get elected. Keep in mind, he didn't deliver much to his home state and refuses to accept responsibility, blaming the poverty, height taxes and disappearing industry on State government.
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"Always felt the pressures of being a Jew there, which is possibly a reason for his rejection of his Semitic roots".
duckshots,
Curious, are you the gatekeeper on judging Jewish individual pride?
Was it his vote against the Iraq War Powers Act that convinced you that he had no respect for his heritage?
Would it help if he schmoozed up to Bibi and our jihadist neocons?
duckshots,
Curious, are you the gatekeeper on judging Jewish individual pride?
Was it his vote against the Iraq War Powers Act that convinced you that he had no respect for his heritage?
Would it help if he schmoozed up to Bibi and our jihadist neocons?
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He left Brooklyn like the Dodgers now he wants us.
Sorry Bernie when you left we lit a candle for you
Sorry Bernie when you left we lit a candle for you
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Remember when the Clintons turned tail and carpetbagged their way into NY after Bill left office under a cloud? I remember it well. A calculated move for Hillary's next perch. She's still at it.
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Oh. So when Sanders left Brooklyn to eventually become Senator from Vermont,
that wasn't carpetbagging it??... Looks like we got a case of double standards here.
that wasn't carpetbagging it??... Looks like we got a case of double standards here.
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@N. Smith
You're exactly right. These people never met a double-standard they couldn't embrace. Jesus wept...
You're exactly right. These people never met a double-standard they couldn't embrace. Jesus wept...
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Hardly. Take a look at Sanders' resume. He's had a long and varied career, "eventually," as you say, becoming Senator from Vermont, and is now returning to NY as a presidential candidate. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, pounced on NY with cold calculation to snare a Senate seat as soon as Bill's White House term was concluded. It was much remarked on at the time. She's a carpetbagger, plain and simple.
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The media including the NYTimes doesn't like Bernie. Guess what, Media is big business and Bernie is for workers, not big business. That is why the Times support a corporatist, Hillary. Bernie is for getting money out of campaigns, and lots of that money ends up in the hands of media, like CNN and Fox and The New York Times.
The system is so rigged against ordinary people that ordinary people can't even see the ropes and pulleys, pulled by the rich, that run the economy.
As for Hillary and Bill, thy name is corruption.
What we have in this race, to see who will have their finger on the button of the most powerful military in the history of the world is, a lying corrupt egomaniacal pretend Liberal, a totally insane madman Donald Trump, or maybe he is actually working for the pretend liberal, and finally, two ultra right wing conservatives or really scary mean spirited white men, who pretty much no one likes, and finally, finally, a genuine real moderate progressive good guy who has worked his entire life for decent causes.
But the real question is, why is it so hard for the media to sort this out?
The system is so rigged against ordinary people that ordinary people can't even see the ropes and pulleys, pulled by the rich, that run the economy.
As for Hillary and Bill, thy name is corruption.
What we have in this race, to see who will have their finger on the button of the most powerful military in the history of the world is, a lying corrupt egomaniacal pretend Liberal, a totally insane madman Donald Trump, or maybe he is actually working for the pretend liberal, and finally, two ultra right wing conservatives or really scary mean spirited white men, who pretty much no one likes, and finally, finally, a genuine real moderate progressive good guy who has worked his entire life for decent causes.
But the real question is, why is it so hard for the media to sort this out?
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Everyone talks about the fragmentation of the GOP, but should Dems worry about the deep divisions in their own ranks? These two candidates better find a way to meet in the middle, or the party will suffer.
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Judging from these comments (and others in recent articles) the billionaire Koch brothers and their cronies must be having a hearty laugh at the liberal Democrats expense. The millions and millions of dollars they have spent smearing Ms. Clinton, creating fake "scandals," and assassinating her character have paid off. The target of their campaign - liberals - have bought their carefully crafted lies- and now (as in 2000) we are about to implode if Mr. Sanders continues to do his Nader impersonation and march down this destructive path. The Koch brothers must be gleeful.
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Why do I keep having this idea that an army of youthful Republican-machine-tweeters are flooding social media to make Sanders seem like your favorite uncle who would let you stay up late and eat ice cream for breakfast?
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And they have visions of Frank Luntz dancing around in their heads....
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Gwen - maybe, like many in today's Democratic Party, you have a hard time accepting that Hillary is incapable of providing the leadership and direction our country needs?
Hope / Change - it will be Bernie who picks up where Obama leaves off.
Hope / Change - it will be Bernie who picks up where Obama leaves off.
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@Gwen Dawson
LOL--so true. Makes one wonder if the Bernie supporters are actually Republicans plants. They make about as much sense as that which is to say, none.
LOL--so true. Makes one wonder if the Bernie supporters are actually Republicans plants. They make about as much sense as that which is to say, none.
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I was born in Brooklyn, the daughter of immigrants who never had a chance for higher education themselves. City College of New York gave me that chance, and all I paid was a registration fee and the cost of books. My sister and brother also attended the city colleges. I want that kind of opportunity for the next generation--along with a decent minimum wage, single-payer health care, and all the other proposals in Sen. Sanders' platform.
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Come on NYers. Bernie really needs to win you're state and he will probably win the nomination if he does. Nothing will improve if you vote for Hillary, well maybe Trump will fix a few things...
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Not sure that "nothing would improve if you vote for Hillary."
Not sure that "maybe Trump will fix a few things.
But I DO believe that Bernie is a much better candidate both for NYers and for working people everywhere.
HRC and the Donald? Just 2 more "old white guys" on the make and on the take.
Not sure that "maybe Trump will fix a few things.
But I DO believe that Bernie is a much better candidate both for NYers and for working people everywhere.
HRC and the Donald? Just 2 more "old white guys" on the make and on the take.
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Thanks for the pep talk. But NOBODY tells New Yorkers what to do -- that's just the way we're built. And we already know what Trump will fix...Don't forget, he's from here!
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Its hare to see where the money trail ends and the statesmanship begins.
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[to the author]
... Would love to see more articles like this about the Democratic race. I just learned something about NY voting trends that I didn't realize before, as opposed to "he is doing well BUT.... "
"Despite his local roots, Mr. Sanders may face an uphill fight in New York." This is a good way to say that it will be a challenging campaign - and instead of dwelling on that point like so many outlets (including this paper) do ad infinitum, you moved ahead to the wider discussion of NY progressives, and included an un-slanted quote from an academic.
Thanks again and I will look out for your coverage going forward.
... Would love to see more articles like this about the Democratic race. I just learned something about NY voting trends that I didn't realize before, as opposed to "he is doing well BUT.... "
"Despite his local roots, Mr. Sanders may face an uphill fight in New York." This is a good way to say that it will be a challenging campaign - and instead of dwelling on that point like so many outlets (including this paper) do ad infinitum, you moved ahead to the wider discussion of NY progressives, and included an un-slanted quote from an academic.
Thanks again and I will look out for your coverage going forward.
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Regarding the Sanderistas meme that Hillary is corrupt because she took money from this business or that - Bernie took money from the Democratic Senate Pac without asking any questions about the sources. One of the darlings of the Bernie supporters is Elizabeth Warren, who I was proud to vote for, faced a lot of criticism in her Senate race because of her high legal fees that she received from certain corporations. She is of course the very opposite of a bought politician. It has never been possible to move the country forward and still be as pure as the driven snow. If you are competing against the Koch's and their ilk, you might like the President, accept contributions from those who you oppose on a lot of issues. It would be great if the small donor strategy works through the ENTIRE cycle, but that remains to be seen.
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@Milliband
Sorry, but your very well expressed comment is far too nuanced for the Bernie supporters to understand. Be prepared to be attacked with their naive, florid invective in the service of their never ending compulsion to malign their so-called "enemy", Hillary Clinton.
Oh, if these childish Bernie supporters only understood that Bernie is as bought and sold as every single politician--it's the nature of the beast. But, methinks, by virtue of the vitriol of the Sanderistas commentariat that they cannot see beyond their own noses, noses which many are apparently willing to cut off to spite their faces come November.
Sorry, but your very well expressed comment is far too nuanced for the Bernie supporters to understand. Be prepared to be attacked with their naive, florid invective in the service of their never ending compulsion to malign their so-called "enemy", Hillary Clinton.
Oh, if these childish Bernie supporters only understood that Bernie is as bought and sold as every single politician--it's the nature of the beast. But, methinks, by virtue of the vitriol of the Sanderistas commentariat that they cannot see beyond their own noses, noses which many are apparently willing to cut off to spite their faces come November.
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As a Clinton supporter I feel upset about this attack on Bernie. If anyone in US politics is unbought it is Bernie. How anyone can say anything bad about him is beyond me. I can't tell if Eileen is aggravated Clinton supporter or a troll.
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The picture accompanying this story sums up Sanders supporters perfectly - young people with the time to go to rallies, socialize with the friends who joined them and pat themselves on the back for being righteous. What isn't pictured is the 2.5 million more people who have voted for Ms. Clinton over Sanders. We skew older which means we have responsibilities like caring for aging parents, young children and working to pay all those bills. So we won't be pictured - but we will be heard. Not on facebook assaults, pep rallies or in the comments sections - but at the ballot - because we love our candidate, too - and we can be counted to show up and support her - ENTHUSIASTICALLY!
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@Dana
Again, Dana, a very beautiful comment. You've made my day!
Yes, we Hillary supporters do skew older and more mature and, as such, don't have the time for the naive, reactionary "activism" of youth nor, more importantly, the social media siege tactics and assaults of the misguided Bernie sycophants.
However, as you say so beautifully, we make ourselves count where it counts most: the Ballot Box and millions upon millions of us will express ourselves with unfettered joy as we pull the lever for Hillary and for all Democrats down ticket as well.
Again, Dana, a very beautiful comment. You've made my day!
Yes, we Hillary supporters do skew older and more mature and, as such, don't have the time for the naive, reactionary "activism" of youth nor, more importantly, the social media siege tactics and assaults of the misguided Bernie sycophants.
However, as you say so beautifully, we make ourselves count where it counts most: the Ballot Box and millions upon millions of us will express ourselves with unfettered joy as we pull the lever for Hillary and for all Democrats down ticket as well.
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Eilieen -thank you for your lovely comment! I wholeheartedly agree!
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According to the 1970 Census, when Bernie moved from New York City to Vermont, the state of Vermont was 443/445ths white. Ben & Jerry's should name a flavor of ice cream for Bernie: White Flight Vanilla Delight.
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Hillary's New York supporters are freaking out, and their frenzied attacks on Senator Sanders make Trump look rational and polite. These angry Clintonites are not doing their candidate any favors. They are turning off liberals.
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Since HRC is not a liberal, of course liberals should be turned off by her insider, big-money campaign and career.
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@pat
I'm sure I don't have to tell you that none of what you say is true. The only frenzy here and on social media is the insistent and obnoxious bullying by Bernie supporters of Democrats who support Hillary.
From day one the nuttier end of the Bernie Brigade has mirrored the low-information invective so treasured by Trump's supporters so that it's become impossible to tell you two camps apart.
No, we Hillary supporters are enjoying sitting back knowing that whether Hillary loses Wisconsin and/or New York, or wins both, she is going to win the nomination with or without your help.
I hope you enjoy our first female President Hillary Rodham Clinton. I know I will.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you that none of what you say is true. The only frenzy here and on social media is the insistent and obnoxious bullying by Bernie supporters of Democrats who support Hillary.
From day one the nuttier end of the Bernie Brigade has mirrored the low-information invective so treasured by Trump's supporters so that it's become impossible to tell you two camps apart.
No, we Hillary supporters are enjoying sitting back knowing that whether Hillary loses Wisconsin and/or New York, or wins both, she is going to win the nomination with or without your help.
I hope you enjoy our first female President Hillary Rodham Clinton. I know I will.
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Pat, You cannot be serious. Almost all the negative comments are about Hillary. I think the Hillary supporters are real progressives who have been paying attention to politics for the past 10 years and have high praise for both Hillary and Sanders. On the other hand, Sanders supporters (or the trolls that pretend to be Sanders supporters) are blasting out an assault on Hillary that sounds very much like they are reading from a list of talking points. What progressives have to pay attention to is that they not turn off independent voters by amplifying the past years of tea party attacks on Hillary. I also see in these comments the first signs of people who identify themselves as Clinton supporters attacking Bernie. Does this mean that they are actually Clinton supporters that are getting annoyed at all the attacks or that tea party trolls have decided to start personally attacking Bernie's integrity also. I don't think progressive Democrats need a food fight, so please resist the urge to fight back against what are likely trolling comments.
Mr. Sanders white flighted it out of NY the minute he reached adulthood - the only thing NY about him is his accent. So let's call it what it is when he returns to his place of birth and claims to be a New Yorker - pandering. It's what all politicians do. Oh yes - and same with his gun votes - pandering. Nobody is in politics for 30 years without it
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To Dana,
And Hillary Clinton did the reverse with her "home" state - but "white flighted" into tony Chappaqua, not Brooklyn. Based on your reasoning, there is only one "true" New Yorker - Donald Trump.
And Hillary Clinton did the reverse with her "home" state - but "white flighted" into tony Chappaqua, not Brooklyn. Based on your reasoning, there is only one "true" New Yorker - Donald Trump.
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I'd rather have him pandering to the South Bronx then pandering to Goldman Sachs and Citibank and Bank of America and Chase; the pharmaceutical cartel, the prison for profit industry, credit card companies, and the military-industrial complex.
Hillary is a faux progressive, and her sense of entitlement is appalling. She's been on the WRONG side of every issue over the last 30 years, as opposed to Bernie Sanders who has been proven right on almost every important issue from the vile Iraqi War she voted for to her support of DOMA and NAFTA. There is a much, much better choice for President, a person who actually SHOULD be president. Read and educate yourself:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/300459389/The-Definitive-Case-for-Why-Hillary-...
Hillary is a faux progressive, and her sense of entitlement is appalling. She's been on the WRONG side of every issue over the last 30 years, as opposed to Bernie Sanders who has been proven right on almost every important issue from the vile Iraqi War she voted for to her support of DOMA and NAFTA. There is a much, much better choice for President, a person who actually SHOULD be president. Read and educate yourself:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/300459389/The-Definitive-Case-for-Why-Hillary-...
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Dana,
I am really disgusted with the HRC campaign using racial identity as a tool to dissuade minorities to consider Sanders. That is truly racist.
I am really disgusted with the HRC campaign using racial identity as a tool to dissuade minorities to consider Sanders. That is truly racist.
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Guy from the South here that knows Bernie's campaign wasn't as well known as it is now when Georgia voted. Please even up the delegate vote for this guy. All these clowns starting their comment with, "Bernie's a decent guy, but", read their response with a critical mind. We have a chance at making a huge step forward here.
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Wonderful crowd in my home borough. Hugely diverse crowd. I thought there were more Black and Latino/a people than anyone else. I even saw a Black elder with a walker with a Bernie button. As a young person of color I feel incredibly let down by the Black political establishment that has sold our birthright to the Democratic party and especially the Clintons without even asking for anything for the community, let alone receiving anything. They only care about their patronage and connections. The Joshua Generation has been an utter disaster for Black people and I look forward to supplanting these hacks in the coming years.
It is time for the power to be wrested from the Power Elite: the banks, the lobbyists, the corporate media. Bernie's message is exactly what is needed after thirty five years of trickle down economics and neoliberalism. The question is do we have the courage to take the reins of our democracy instead of cast a ballot every four years and continuing to chew the cud in the interim? Whether Bernie wins or loses this primary represents a shift in the Democratic party. Hillary will be the last gasp of the warmongering, corporate shilling, and neoliberal Democratic party. The base will demand progressive candidates going forward. I refuse to vote for corporate candidates any longer.
It is time for the power to be wrested from the Power Elite: the banks, the lobbyists, the corporate media. Bernie's message is exactly what is needed after thirty five years of trickle down economics and neoliberalism. The question is do we have the courage to take the reins of our democracy instead of cast a ballot every four years and continuing to chew the cud in the interim? Whether Bernie wins or loses this primary represents a shift in the Democratic party. Hillary will be the last gasp of the warmongering, corporate shilling, and neoliberal Democratic party. The base will demand progressive candidates going forward. I refuse to vote for corporate candidates any longer.
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Precisely; and I believe we do have the courage, and this election will long be remembered as the time when Americans came together, for all Americans, and at last, at long last, took control of their future.
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@Entropic Decline,
Good morning! Feeling the Bern! You saw a Black elder with a walker and a Bernie button? Man or woman? I was there with my mom. She's an elder (very passionate and vibrant 81), was using her walker and wore her Bernie buttons (including two in her hair)! If it was someone else, that's terrific. It helps (even more) to disprove the media's claim that Bernie's message isn't reaching older people, people of color, mature women, minorities, etc.
Again, NYT: BUSTED! Hilary:Debate Sanders in NY!
Actually attending a rally showed me how unfair and dishonest the media has been to and about Sanders. SO many people of: different ages, men, women, children. Latinos, Blacks, naturalized citizens, LGBT's--you name it. People with physical disabilities (handicapped?), including, a visually impaired person with a cane (I think). We got there early and were lucky with seating. Sanders shook my hand; strong grip! Jane grinned right at me when I yelled "our future first lady!" What's important, aside from what you've said is, what Rosario Dawson said: "We're better than that." I.e., we don't stoop to disrespect. The rally was dignified. Ms. Dawson stuck with the issues (and took a pic w/mom). Ditto Spike Lee (wow! Spike) The campaign is dignified.
I learned more about the Bronx, Puerto Rico, etc. (a lot of work to be done). I felt at home. (I'm a Lehman-CUNY grad and my late sister was born in the Bronx). The crucial thing:VOTING.
4-1-16@11:32 am
Good morning! Feeling the Bern! You saw a Black elder with a walker and a Bernie button? Man or woman? I was there with my mom. She's an elder (very passionate and vibrant 81), was using her walker and wore her Bernie buttons (including two in her hair)! If it was someone else, that's terrific. It helps (even more) to disprove the media's claim that Bernie's message isn't reaching older people, people of color, mature women, minorities, etc.
Again, NYT: BUSTED! Hilary:Debate Sanders in NY!
Actually attending a rally showed me how unfair and dishonest the media has been to and about Sanders. SO many people of: different ages, men, women, children. Latinos, Blacks, naturalized citizens, LGBT's--you name it. People with physical disabilities (handicapped?), including, a visually impaired person with a cane (I think). We got there early and were lucky with seating. Sanders shook my hand; strong grip! Jane grinned right at me when I yelled "our future first lady!" What's important, aside from what you've said is, what Rosario Dawson said: "We're better than that." I.e., we don't stoop to disrespect. The rally was dignified. Ms. Dawson stuck with the issues (and took a pic w/mom). Ditto Spike Lee (wow! Spike) The campaign is dignified.
I learned more about the Bronx, Puerto Rico, etc. (a lot of work to be done). I felt at home. (I'm a Lehman-CUNY grad and my late sister was born in the Bronx). The crucial thing:VOTING.
4-1-16@11:32 am
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@Entropic Decline,
This represents a shift. It might also represent a split, just as what seems to be happening in the Republican party. Only two viable parties for a nation this size? It makes no sense.
4-1-16@1:33 pm
This represents a shift. It might also represent a split, just as what seems to be happening in the Republican party. Only two viable parties for a nation this size? It makes no sense.
4-1-16@1:33 pm
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Funny, the NYT points out Bernie trails Hillary in the polls, but fails to note that he is rapidly closing the gap ... hmmmm ... wonder why the NYT would leave that out? Oh, yeah, because they are CORPORATE MEDIA.
The revolution is the beginning of the end of corporate media, UNLESS corporate media stops being a corporate PRAVDA, ignoring Americans struggles and suffering ... they are a dinosaur of the past.
This new generation is oblivous to corporate media propaganda. GO BERNIE GO!!!
The revolution is the beginning of the end of corporate media, UNLESS corporate media stops being a corporate PRAVDA, ignoring Americans struggles and suffering ... they are a dinosaur of the past.
This new generation is oblivous to corporate media propaganda. GO BERNIE GO!!!
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William, it's encouraging Bernie's appeal is crossing generational lines, because he was born not long after corporate influence and corruption brought the house of cards down in 1929.
Maybe we are capable of learning from the lessons of history, after all.
Maybe we are capable of learning from the lessons of history, after all.
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Google Challenge:
How many of the 200,000 new jobs that Hillary promised upstate NY as Senator did she actually deliver?
How many of the 200,000 new jobs that Hillary promised upstate NY as Senator did she actually deliver?
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@Brighteyed
Google Challenge: How meaningful is your query?
Overwhelming answer: Zero.
Google Challenge: How meaningful is your query?
Overwhelming answer: Zero.
Less than none, if she performed the way she usually does.
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@Brighteyed Explorer,
That's a fair and honest question. I'd love to read the answer.
4-1-16@1:35 pm
That's a fair and honest question. I'd love to read the answer.
4-1-16@1:35 pm
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Anyone else notice the preponderance of sarcastic comments, mostly replies and mostly anti-Sanders, from a small handful of late-night readers who seem to be pouncing to get their mean-spirited words published (it's morning where I am) - ? Who screens this stuff? I used to read NYT comments to find a less biased and more articulate view of the news than available in the articles or in my other web-based sources but the conversation has taken a dive in the Trump direction.
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Hardly correct to classify all anti-Sanders comments with such a broad stroke.
If you look a little closer, you might see that caustic comments are not endemic to only "late night readers".
If you look a little closer, you might see that caustic comments are not endemic to only "late night readers".
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What is most interesting to me about the comments today is that it appears the Hillary people are really getting scared and lashing out because of it....
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Empty Years in the Senate with only three minor laws passed with one the naming of a post office! Hardly a distinguished career for a Senator. Her Senatorial focus was on lobbying for Wall Street and voting for the Iraq War.
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Didn't spend too much time on this one, did you? -- an extremely over-simplified and judgmental assessment lacking any depth on both accounts.
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Yes, Bernie Sanders was born in Brooklyn. But he abandoned NYC permanently in 1971 - having done exactly NOTHING for it. (And, by coincidence, moved from the most diverse city in the world to the second "Whitest" state in the country.) Hillary Clinton was not born in NY. However, she and her husband moved here permanently, and as Senator she did ALOT for her constituency (including me). Indeed, she was re-elected by the largest margin in the history of the State.
I don't care that she is NOT a "born and bred" New Yorker any more than I care that Sanders IS. The fact is that he has done NOTHING for New York, while did plenty.
Thank you, Ms. Clinton. You have my vote. (Both for that and many other reasons.)
I don't care that she is NOT a "born and bred" New Yorker any more than I care that Sanders IS. The fact is that he has done NOTHING for New York, while did plenty.
Thank you, Ms. Clinton. You have my vote. (Both for that and many other reasons.)
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I would say it's unfair to claim Bernie "abandoned" NYC. He moved as we all do in our lives. I moved from CT to MA to NC throughout my life. Did I abandon my home or what it meant to me in those years? He is just talking about his history here, not making any claims about doing all these wonderful things for NY so I am not quite sure why you feel the need to smear him over it. I get it, your a Hillary supporter and that's cool as I am one as well! However, for the primary I didn't know of Bernie and when I got to know more of him I liked what I saw. He doesn't have lobbyist's bundling millions through coordinated SuperPacs to his campaign and I think that is just so rad and one of the reasons I switched my support from Hillary to Bernie in the primary election.
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Yes, she moved to "diverse" Chappaqua.
Actually, I don't recall her doing anything for New York. I recall her being a "national issues" senator. Tried calling her office for constituent service in the day. Virtually no response.
Actually, I don't recall her doing anything for New York. I recall her being a "national issues" senator. Tried calling her office for constituent service in the day. Virtually no response.
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What did Clinton do for you? You say a lot, but that's not very specific. You could be a Wall Street cocaine dealer, happy about the bailout. Details would be more helpful.
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Bernie must say, "much has been made of the 'revolution' this campaign has sought. But the real revolution thst all this is sbout - and what distinguishes me from my opponent - is the revolution going on since about 1980, that I seek to reverse and that she and her husband have been part of:
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
Since the 1980s an "invisible hand" religion (personified in film by "greed is good" Gordon Gecko) institutionalized on Wall Street and at academic institutions like the University of Chicago economics department (Milton Friedman, later Gary Becker and Richard Posner, who would legislate the doctrines from the bench), has displaced traditional arbiters of fairness. Even Adam Smith believed raw economic competition and acquisitiveness unconstrained by other values ultimately destructive. Sanders seeks a remedy for the revolution that, in a word, has given us Donald Trump.
According to the Economic Policy Institute:
"The CEO-to-worker compensation ratio was 20-to-1 in 1965 and 29.9-to-1 in 1978, grew to 122.6-to-1 in 1995, peaked at 383.4-to-1 in 2000, and was 295.9-to-1 in 2013."
"From 1978-2013, CEO compensation, inflation-adjusted, increased 937 percent, a rise more than double stock market growth and substantially greater than the painfully slow 10.2 percent growth in a typical worker’s compensation over the same period."
Since the 1980s an "invisible hand" religion (personified in film by "greed is good" Gordon Gecko) institutionalized on Wall Street and at academic institutions like the University of Chicago economics department (Milton Friedman, later Gary Becker and Richard Posner, who would legislate the doctrines from the bench), has displaced traditional arbiters of fairness. Even Adam Smith believed raw economic competition and acquisitiveness unconstrained by other values ultimately destructive. Sanders seeks a remedy for the revolution that, in a word, has given us Donald Trump.
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@andrew
Yes. And Sanders' supporters who don't vote unless he's the nominee, will actually give us Trump.
Yes. And Sanders' supporters who don't vote unless he's the nominee, will actually give us Trump.
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Actually, people who vote for Hillary will give us Trump.
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You want to do something new? Bernie. Or something old. Hillary. It's that easy. I don't want to pay $273/month for health insurance anymore. We got halfway there with Obama, let's finish this.
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With all due respect, this is supposed to be a comment section. Not a place for paid political announcements...And you might want to re-think your insurance plan.
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Sure let's have everything for free, why work for anything anymore?
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First off -- $273 is a huge bargain for health insurance. Probably the true cost is $1000 a month, so either your employer is generous OR you have a giant subsidy on the exchanges.
Do you seriously think someone, somewhere is getting cheaper health care? You are wrong. If someone (in say, EUROPE) is seeming not to pay out of pocket at point of service....well, they paid in plenty beforehand in TAXES. As much or more than you have. Think of everything you purchased in the last month, then figure out what 25-28% of that would be (VAT).
Obama didn't get you halfway to anything. The ACA was written by the insurance industry to benefit THEMSELVES. They were terrified of single payer or a public option or being forced to go non-profit. So they wrote a plan that ENSURED that we would never, ever, EVER have those things in OUR LIFETIMES. The ACA is not a path to single payer; the ACA ends any chance of single payer. How anyone can read the 2400 page law (*did YOU read it? NO!) and think "yeah....this will shortly become single payer health care like in Canada!" beats me.
It is the biggest con job any President has ever pulled on anybody, bar none.
To get single payer NOW, would require completely doing away with the ACA....you know, just like the REPUBLICANS have tried to do, 40 times.
Do you seriously think someone, somewhere is getting cheaper health care? You are wrong. If someone (in say, EUROPE) is seeming not to pay out of pocket at point of service....well, they paid in plenty beforehand in TAXES. As much or more than you have. Think of everything you purchased in the last month, then figure out what 25-28% of that would be (VAT).
Obama didn't get you halfway to anything. The ACA was written by the insurance industry to benefit THEMSELVES. They were terrified of single payer or a public option or being forced to go non-profit. So they wrote a plan that ENSURED that we would never, ever, EVER have those things in OUR LIFETIMES. The ACA is not a path to single payer; the ACA ends any chance of single payer. How anyone can read the 2400 page law (*did YOU read it? NO!) and think "yeah....this will shortly become single payer health care like in Canada!" beats me.
It is the biggest con job any President has ever pulled on anybody, bar none.
To get single payer NOW, would require completely doing away with the ACA....you know, just like the REPUBLICANS have tried to do, 40 times.
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Another story with no information about the financial impact Sanders' promises would have on our paychecks. Stories about Bernie's "winning streak" in 3 states with a handful of delegates is no longer cutting it. You guys and the networks have sainted him--which is very dangerous. You have dug into Hillary's record to the point that practically everyone around the world hates her. Now it's time to see what Sanders is all about.
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Ah, if she isn't like around the world, I don't think it has anything to do with my paycheck. Could be the bombings and displacement of millions of people.
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What impact do you believe establishment politics and corporate bailouts have had on the paychecks of working people? I think you are right, it is time to see what Sanders is about. We already know a lot about Hillary, and the real information (transcripts of Goldman Sachs and other speeches) is under lock and key.
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Not the world, just in this country, and only people that have bought into the lies that all the decades of smears have wrought. But you're right, if they turn the magnifier on Bernie even 1/100 of what Hillary's taken, he'd be toast. For one thing, his temper is well known, and he would probably storm out.
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All the opposition would have to do to Candidate Gramps is tell the human history of socialism and how it has never EVER worked out economically. The Soviet Union had the smartest people available and even they could never make it work.
The only way to make everything ''free'' is for the government to own its citizens and reduce all but the top millionth of the country's elites to grinding, lifeless poverty. The guards ''help'' to remind you to shut up and get back to your 600 sq. ft. concrete apartment.
The only way to make everything ''free'' is for the government to own its citizens and reduce all but the top millionth of the country's elites to grinding, lifeless poverty. The guards ''help'' to remind you to shut up and get back to your 600 sq. ft. concrete apartment.
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Quite the leap. tp compare Sanders' proposals incorporating the tenets of Democratic Socialism with the brutal totalitarianism of the Soviet Union. If you are going to cite history, then a few actual facts that reflect reality might be in order. Instead, I suspect that you return to your dog-eared copy of Atlas Shrugged for affirmation. Meanwhile, our friends in Western Europe enjoy their robust economies, pay their fair share of taxes and rest easy knowing that they participate in and benefit from a responsible and compassionate social system that fosters the well-being off ALL its citizens.
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Candidate "Gramps?" A little age-related discriminatory remark, no? Wouldn't you be insulted if someone criticized Hillary as a woman? I would.
"Shut up?" and get back to your 600sf concrete apt? "The Soviet Union had the smartest people available?"
There are better ways to express your viewpoint than angry insults and assumptions.
"Shut up?" and get back to your 600sf concrete apt? "The Soviet Union had the smartest people available?"
There are better ways to express your viewpoint than angry insults and assumptions.
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Rather than get caught up on a label, look at the actual policies the candidate is proposing.
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Bernie came from New York, Hillary moved there and became senator. Never understood why y'all immediately elected her...maybe because no one really pays attention to "those" elections. Have a feeling they will now.
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Just remember this. Clinton was elected as Senator of New York...not Vermont.
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"Y'all" is the operative word in your comment. I'd be very reluctant to insult black voters by suggesting they might not have noticed, but since no one, particularly nobody from the black community, has mentioned this, I have to assume many or most blacks in fact overlook this behavior (stratagem, really) on Hillsry's part.
In the late 90s, at a very definite point, Hillary began lacing every public comment with "y'all" in place of "you", particularly when addressing a single individual. It was especially obvious because at the time I daily watched the PBS Newshour, and at one specific moment she did it having never used that word before, and suddenly it was practically every sentence. I thought it was a nod to multiculturalism, a principled ethnic-racial inclusiveness by publicly validating a hallmark of common black informal dialect. Jim Lehrer temporarily took up "you-all."
I now see how this was a long term investment in the black vote, which Hillary 2 decades would see as the centerpiece of her electoral strategy, and boy did it work, I only wish more would see through it, but she already has most black voters (with Charles Blow's help) locked in-- duped, I think. If they cared about the civil rights legacy (the movement was equally "quixotic" st the time) blacks would hear its echoes in the Sanders agenda. Hillary fooled them.
In the late 90s, at a very definite point, Hillary began lacing every public comment with "y'all" in place of "you", particularly when addressing a single individual. It was especially obvious because at the time I daily watched the PBS Newshour, and at one specific moment she did it having never used that word before, and suddenly it was practically every sentence. I thought it was a nod to multiculturalism, a principled ethnic-racial inclusiveness by publicly validating a hallmark of common black informal dialect. Jim Lehrer temporarily took up "you-all."
I now see how this was a long term investment in the black vote, which Hillary 2 decades would see as the centerpiece of her electoral strategy, and boy did it work, I only wish more would see through it, but she already has most black voters (with Charles Blow's help) locked in-- duped, I think. If they cared about the civil rights legacy (the movement was equally "quixotic" st the time) blacks would hear its echoes in the Sanders agenda. Hillary fooled them.
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Her background was as the wife of the President when she moved to New York to run for the Senate. As a lifelong Democrat, I was not impressed by her background. After her husband appointed her as First Lady to lead a fight for health care "reform", she involved big Pharma and the insurance companies as key players. They came up with a totally convoluted confusing "plan" that went nowhere. I will be voting for Bernie on April 19th. AndI am one of those older women.
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Why won't Hillary agree to a debate prior to the NY presidential primary? Is she afraid that Bernie might ask her why she won't release her speeches given to Goldman Sachs or that he might bring up her corporatist track record while at State?
For example, according to the NY Daily News, 5-14-13, Hillary's state department became Monsanto's global marketing arm notwithstanding that Hillary received a $325,000 speaking fee from Monsanto's top GMO lobby front group BIO.
For example, according to the NY Daily News, 5-14-13, Hillary's state department became Monsanto's global marketing arm notwithstanding that Hillary received a $325,000 speaking fee from Monsanto's top GMO lobby front group BIO.
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@eisen
Sorry. What kind of papers do you have in Manhattan Beach??? There's been no news that she won't debate here...in Manhattan.
You're quoting The Daily News from 2013???
Sorry. What kind of papers do you have in Manhattan Beach??? There's been no news that she won't debate here...in Manhattan.
You're quoting The Daily News from 2013???
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Maybe in the NY debate he would bring up her record as Secty of State promoting tracking around the world!
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Of course she is chicken . She is afraid New York will tear her apart and we will.
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Bernie's message resonates, and clarifies: We The People have the power to change our lives and our circumstances overnight, on Election Day.
A Democratic President and a Democratic Senate and House are possible, if we all come together and #UniteBlueWhateverTheShade.
If instead, we allow the Republicans to use the same strategy as they did in Wisconsin - #DivideAndConquer - we will have a President Trump or President Cruz backed by a Tea Party Congress.
And if THAT prospect doesn't get you off the couch and out the door on Election Day... nothing will.
A Democratic President and a Democratic Senate and House are possible, if we all come together and #UniteBlueWhateverTheShade.
If instead, we allow the Republicans to use the same strategy as they did in Wisconsin - #DivideAndConquer - we will have a President Trump or President Cruz backed by a Tea Party Congress.
And if THAT prospect doesn't get you off the couch and out the door on Election Day... nothing will.
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Bernie's 'message' is more like: "We, some of the people..."
Because if you don't vote for him, you're considered part of the "problem".
That sounds pretty divisive to me.
Because if you don't vote for him, you're considered part of the "problem".
That sounds pretty divisive to me.
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Bernie is not a democrat.. he has been very clear that he uses the Party for fundraising and press.. he promises nothing to the party with raising money for the lower house races... Mrs. Clinton is a life long Dem raising 26 million for lower races, so the Dems can carry the house and senate. . Who do you want to lead the DNC..... a democrat or a user of the democratic party....
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RoughAcres,
Canadians united to in our last election to turf the ultra right. The left has been split here for decades. The left parties did not unite, but the voters got around that by closely following polls in their ridings, and voting for the left candidate that had the best chance as far as they could tell. A lot of folks held their noses, but we got rid of the hated party that had governed for a decade with less than 40% of the popular vote. It is not over yet, the work has just begun, the work for change.
You can do it. It has to start somewhere. Don't divide, conquer. It will take time and work, but what is the alternative?
Canadians united to in our last election to turf the ultra right. The left has been split here for decades. The left parties did not unite, but the voters got around that by closely following polls in their ridings, and voting for the left candidate that had the best chance as far as they could tell. A lot of folks held their noses, but we got rid of the hated party that had governed for a decade with less than 40% of the popular vote. It is not over yet, the work has just begun, the work for change.
You can do it. It has to start somewhere. Don't divide, conquer. It will take time and work, but what is the alternative?
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"The poll showed Mrs. Clinton doing best among women and older voters, with Mr. Sanders beating her among men and with “very liberal” voters."
This is a "very misleading" characterization on the poll. You wrote that Sanders leads her amongst men and "very liberal" voters, but failed to mention that amongst New Yorkers 45 and under, Bernie holds a massive lead with nearly 65% of the vote.
You can't say that Hillary leads amongst older voters without mentioning that Bernie leads commandingly amongst younger voters.
This is a "very misleading" characterization on the poll. You wrote that Sanders leads her amongst men and "very liberal" voters, but failed to mention that amongst New Yorkers 45 and under, Bernie holds a massive lead with nearly 65% of the vote.
You can't say that Hillary leads amongst older voters without mentioning that Bernie leads commandingly amongst younger voters.
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First of all. DON'T BELIEVE POLLS. They are almost consistently incorrect -- And why do the Sanders people ALWAYS complain about them, anyway??
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The Times is part of the corporate media fix for Hillary.
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It's not only younger voters who are supporting Bernie. I'm a Boomer who is supporting Bernie. And there are many of us out here!
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The next president will be either Bernie Sanders or Donald Trump. Americans will not settle for more meandering status quo; they're hungry for leadership.
I'm voting for the one who's committed to restoring our great nation's middle class.
I'm voting for the one who's committed to restoring our great nation's middle class.
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Thanks for the prognosis -- But unless your real name is Cassandra, I'll just wait for the end results.
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Go ahead and vote for Bernie all you want, but nothing is going to change in Washington. You'll just be massively disappointed just as we were with Obama. The only way there will be a real 'revolution' in government is if people stop re-electing the same members of Congress. THAT is where we will see a real revolution. The President is just a figurehead these days.
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That would be Hillary :)
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Bernie has so much more to offer minorities than any other candidate. Healthcare and education are two major economic barriers. Bernie gets it.
I can see why the young have coalesced around Bernie. Because they have not been involved politically they have got the shaft through much higher education costs, lack of jobs, lack of access to education due to cost, and wages that are less than they were in the 1970's. If young people want to make change in this country they need to vote. Staying home surely will not make their life better.
I can see why the young have coalesced around Bernie. Because they have not been involved politically they have got the shaft through much higher education costs, lack of jobs, lack of access to education due to cost, and wages that are less than they were in the 1970's. If young people want to make change in this country they need to vote. Staying home surely will not make their life better.
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Here, Here. That explains it, they have been shafted and are suffering economically and in their abilities to have even basic things we expect from life: marriage, affordable housing, children due to economic strain.
Here is more of the truth about hrc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWu0nSsg7w&feature=youtu.be
Stop the injustice!
Here is more of the truth about hrc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uWu0nSsg7w&feature=youtu.be
Stop the injustice!
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Greg, If young people want to make change, they need to vote now for the candidate that will do the least damage over the next 4 years, Keep the idea of revolution foremost, maintain their involvement in practical ways, and never give up.
It is interesting to me, a young person from the 60's to see this fabulous opportunity now confronting people that mirrors my experience. The old fogies now were the activists then. Not too much has changed, except new, even more artificially constructed divisions, and a pervading sense of hate and hopelessness.
It is interesting to me, a young person from the 60's to see this fabulous opportunity now confronting people that mirrors my experience. The old fogies now were the activists then. Not too much has changed, except new, even more artificially constructed divisions, and a pervading sense of hate and hopelessness.
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HA!
Bernie is the poster child for white flight. He went to high school in Brooklyn when it was mostly white - then moved to Vermont! There are no black people in Vermont! There are no hispanic people in Vermont! It's over 95% white! The only state with a bigger percentage of white people is Montana! He moved from the most diverse city in America to the least diverse state in America - what is the difference between Vermont and an all white, walled community in Westchester?
And while we're at it, Vermont is 49 out of 50 states in growth rate. Housing values dropped when they were rising pretty much elsewhere. Wages declined 1.1% when they were increasing everywhere else.
New Hampshire, right next to Vermont, was 16th in GDP Growth. Vermont was 43rd.
Black people are 85% more likely to be pulled over in Burlington, home of the University of Vermont, than white people. African American people are about 1.2% of the population of Vermont - but make up over 10% of the prison population.
Bernie is the poster child for white flight. He went to high school in Brooklyn when it was mostly white - then moved to Vermont! There are no black people in Vermont! There are no hispanic people in Vermont! It's over 95% white! The only state with a bigger percentage of white people is Montana! He moved from the most diverse city in America to the least diverse state in America - what is the difference between Vermont and an all white, walled community in Westchester?
And while we're at it, Vermont is 49 out of 50 states in growth rate. Housing values dropped when they were rising pretty much elsewhere. Wages declined 1.1% when they were increasing everywhere else.
New Hampshire, right next to Vermont, was 16th in GDP Growth. Vermont was 43rd.
Black people are 85% more likely to be pulled over in Burlington, home of the University of Vermont, than white people. African American people are about 1.2% of the population of Vermont - but make up over 10% of the prison population.
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Well this aging boomer would love to cast a vote for Bernie in the primary. After 30 years of voting in NY State as an independent I tried a couple of weeks ago to switch my affiliation to Democrat so I could vote in the primary and was shocked to learn the Democrats require that you have been registered in their party for 12 months in order to vote in the primary if you are switching from independent status. NEW voters can register to vote up until 3 weeks before the primary, and vote as long as a they register as Democrats,, but OLD voters like me have to prove themselves over the course of a year.
I am the exact same age as Hillary, and graduated from an eastern woman's college the same year she did. I am also a former lawyer. I wouldn't have liked her in college and I have never found a reason to like her since then.
I am the exact same age as Hillary, and graduated from an eastern woman's college the same year she did. I am also a former lawyer. I wouldn't have liked her in college and I have never found a reason to like her since then.
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Trust me, Team Hillary is counting on stories like this in order to win NY. The deadline to switch party affiliation was actually October 9, 2015. Closed primaries are not democratic.
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it gives me little hope that women will achieve equality in world when I read a comment personally attacking a woman you've never met for no substantive reason accept perhaps that you fear there is only one seat at the table - so it better be yours. I hope my daughters are never judged by this standard
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Outrageous. As a lawyer, can you not create a collective of those who feel this is purposeful deterrent to intelligent older independents when it was useful to be one.
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This rally absolutely destroyed the Clinton and mainstream media narrative that says "only white liberals support Bernie Sanders"
As a 35 year old white liberal who attended this event, waited several hours in line, only to end up in the overflow section (where Bernie still gave a personal speech before his main stump speech), I will tell you... White liberals were the minority this evening.
To pull nearly 20,000 people, in the Bronx, on a Thursday, with only 48 hours advance notice? That is what a political revolution is about!
As a 35 year old white liberal who attended this event, waited several hours in line, only to end up in the overflow section (where Bernie still gave a personal speech before his main stump speech), I will tell you... White liberals were the minority this evening.
To pull nearly 20,000 people, in the Bronx, on a Thursday, with only 48 hours advance notice? That is what a political revolution is about!
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Kevin - Really? Political revolutions usually involve death, upheaval, and a new boss worse than the old boss. Sorry, 35 year old white guy, but maybe it’s time to grow up about this fantasy that America will become a socialist nation. And -- where has Bernie and his “revolution” been all of this time? Why didn’t he run against Obama? Gore? The other Clinton?
Here’s what I say to Sanders supporters in NY: I know a guy who knows somebody who is selling the Brooklyn bridge....
Here’s what I say to Sanders supporters in NY: I know a guy who knows somebody who is selling the Brooklyn bridge....
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This was amazing. I never thought that Bernie would visit my neighborhood. It felt so good to have the South Bronx as the center of American politics for a night. Bernie's vision for the future is what we have to fight for. A better America for everyone. I expected 4-5k people. Little did I know that 20k were going to show up and that I would end up watching it on a big screen instead of the main rally. but it was all worth it. Latinos for Bernie Sanders
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See Woody Allen's "Bananas" for more about what a political revolution is about.
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Hey- I like Bernie- he is a real mensch. BUT, Bernie moved AWAY FROM New York for Vermont (where he did good things for Vermonters). Hillary moved TO New York and did good things for New Yorkers as their senator. Bernie is nice, but Hillary deserves our vote.
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Wait a sec. WHAT exactly did Hillary ever work to get passed through the Senate? Taking enough money from the bankers to buy two houses every time she gave a speech does NOT mean she did anything for the voters.
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70% of your fellow Washingtonians disagree.
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Yeah, Hillary moved to New York to help us, not for the money and political influence. That's why ever since her years here as senator she has spent all of her time continuing to fight for working class New Yorkers instead of giving speeches to the financial sector for millions of dollars.
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Bernie Sanders is a decent man.. But he is an avowed Socialist. Socialism is
a weak form of communism. I was shocked to hear at a recent debate Sanders
had endorsed Fidel Castro in the 70s. A reporter asked Sanders if he would
disavow his support for Fidel. Sanders refused to disavow his support for Fidel, saying he had done some good in Cuba! I then found out that Fidel Castro
has endorsed Sanders for President of the U.S saying he would bring Socialism to the U.S. To me this is shocking. We should not elect a Socialst
when we can elect Hilary Clinton who has much more realistic plans for the U.S. I believe that Sanders would lose a national election against Donald Trump because a large portion of the country have said they would never vote
for a Socialist.
a weak form of communism. I was shocked to hear at a recent debate Sanders
had endorsed Fidel Castro in the 70s. A reporter asked Sanders if he would
disavow his support for Fidel. Sanders refused to disavow his support for Fidel, saying he had done some good in Cuba! I then found out that Fidel Castro
has endorsed Sanders for President of the U.S saying he would bring Socialism to the U.S. To me this is shocking. We should not elect a Socialst
when we can elect Hilary Clinton who has much more realistic plans for the U.S. I believe that Sanders would lose a national election against Donald Trump because a large portion of the country have said they would never vote
for a Socialist.
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People tried to brand Obama a communst since day one, they have said it about Hillary, liberals, progressives and Democrats. Your narrative is so tedious that only those who live in Cold War phobia and have never learned a thing about the world as it is are going to buy into your ridiculous narrative.
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LOL!!! "Socialism is a weak form of communism?" OK, Bernie is a Democratic-Socialist~very different from (what you call Communist light). As Bernie has said, repeatedly, the ideology would give a much fairer deal to ordinary Americans; look at Sweden, Denmark and Norway, those governments are successful examples of Democratic Socialism. Remember FDR? He gave America a brand of Democratic Socialism and it worked beautifully!
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This is tired rhetoric that's been espoused millions of times by baby boomers and people over the age of 50 primarily who lived through the Cold War era.
Americans were systematically programmed to dispise all forms of socialism. It takes a truly open mind to overcome that programming, so it's ok. Hopefully one of these days you'll think for yourself.
Americans were systematically programmed to dispise all forms of socialism. It takes a truly open mind to overcome that programming, so it's ok. Hopefully one of these days you'll think for yourself.
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Let me be clear. I don't hate or dislike Hillary Clinton. I respect her strength and intelligence and commitment and values and at any other time, she would be my choice. She has played and continues to play by the rules as they are and made a great career for herself. But millions of hard-working Americans have also played by the rules and are having to work longer and harder just to keep what they've earned. They lose their jobs and retirement savings, even their homes, in Wall Street-engineered crashes and can't get back what they lost. Millions of others, even our young debt-burdened college graduates, can't even get in the game. So the time is not right to vote for more of the same rules and the same game, with a "progressive" tweak here and there. It just isn't.
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Annie- what do you think you are getting, with Bernie? He is a life long politician, salary paid via tax dollars. I don’t get how people say he is different. And he thinks more of those tax dollars are going to somehow show up (hmm. now I’m listening) and pay for everyone’s school, just like that? It’s a bizarre arrival at a dangerous time in American history.
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If you think Bernie's plans come for free, get ready for a shock! If you think your paycheck is being eaten away by taxes now, just wait til you're expected to foot the bill for all that free college and socialized medicine. Yikes. Give me Hillary any day.
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@Annie Dooley - Annie - I have three kids. I lost my job. I have to tell you that my next job indirectly came through reaching out through the Clinton network, not "Bernie" not by a longshot. He is hot air and a phony in my book. Hillary actually cares. I know that sounds poisonous to you who have drunk from Bernie fountain. But, those are the facts.
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Yamiche, thank you for writing an article about Bernie Sanders.
But we need something more: in-depth continuing reporting about America's most serious problem: the seizure of our economy from The People, by and for The Money-Insider Establishment.
And serious continuing reporting about Bernie's mission, to restore America to The People.
Until we make major progress on that one, we can't solve our other problems.
But we need something more: in-depth continuing reporting about America's most serious problem: the seizure of our economy from The People, by and for The Money-Insider Establishment.
And serious continuing reporting about Bernie's mission, to restore America to The People.
Until we make major progress on that one, we can't solve our other problems.
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Bernie Sanders has taken money for people who work for oil. He should send every cent of it back... unless he is corrupt too. Of course his supporters will explain it away. There are always exceptions for your candidate aren't there?
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Where is your evidence for this?
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Dear Lynn from Nevada. Yes, "Bernie Sanders has taken money for [sic] people who work for oil." He has also taken money from people who work for steel, for the gas guzzling auto industry, for banks. There is a word for these people. They're called "workers". There is also a word for the argument that you and Clinton make when you make these accusations. The word is "disingenuous".
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And what link can you provide us to verify this information?
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Media loves emphasizing this story about how Bernie's supporters are only white young folks, to spin how he's not appealing to a broad group of people. Truth is, he wins amongst ALL ethnic groups of young people. Unfortunately, only NPR has reported on this:
(Edison conducts entrance and exit polling for American elections and has conducted polls on primary voters and caucusgoers in 20 states so far this election.)
"Among African-Americans, who are 17 through 29, Bernie Sanders is actually leading that group, 51 to 48 [percent]," he said. "Among 17- to 29-year-old Hispanics, Bernie Sanders leads Hillary Clinton 66-34."
"I think the big takeaway," Brown said, "is that whether it's among whites or African-Americans, Bernie Sanders does significantly better among the youngest voters in the Democratic primary."
Please people, when you hear this, please try to spread the truth.
(Edison conducts entrance and exit polling for American elections and has conducted polls on primary voters and caucusgoers in 20 states so far this election.)
"Among African-Americans, who are 17 through 29, Bernie Sanders is actually leading that group, 51 to 48 [percent]," he said. "Among 17- to 29-year-old Hispanics, Bernie Sanders leads Hillary Clinton 66-34."
"I think the big takeaway," Brown said, "is that whether it's among whites or African-Americans, Bernie Sanders does significantly better among the youngest voters in the Democratic primary."
Please people, when you hear this, please try to spread the truth.
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Yes, it is a tactic. Statistics tell us that the media is pushing a narrative is not the truth.
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You have to be young enough to know absolutely nothing about world history and the effects of socialism on people to support the @VermontYoda.
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For what it's worth, my husband wears a Bernie cap and nine times out of ten, when somebody comments on it favorably, it is a young black man such as the appliance delivery man who delivered us a new stove today. We live in the South. Maybe if he was wearing a Hillary hat, he would have gotten older black men approving. Still, it has surprised us.
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I can't wait to cast my ballot for Bernie Sanders, and thinking about NY just makes it feel closer. Obviously he's not a panacea that will cure everything, but in my several decades of voting, he is the candidate I feel most hopeful and excited about - a once in my lifetime type of candidate, is my impression, and nothing short of a disaster will stop me from getting to the polls.
Get a friend to vote, NY. If everyone chips in a little, the journey will be as good as the destination.
Get a friend to vote, NY. If everyone chips in a little, the journey will be as good as the destination.
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Yes, he is a very flawed candidate, but vastly less so than the others, and this is a once in a generation opportunity to vote for a truly more democratic America, and to take a stand against the oligarchy we have been becoming since 1980, when neoconservatism began to institutionalize a worship of money and idolatrous social Darwinism that would make virtual kings of the likes of Gordon Gecko and Donald Trump. And it would be a vote against the lady who takes $675000 from the high priests of this new oligarchy religion for 3 speeches she won't disclose.
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As someone who voted for Eugene McCarthy and John Anderson all I can sat is good luck with Sanders. I don't think it can happen.
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Ka Ching, Ka Ching, Ka Ching. We met our goal. Reading the NYT does so inspire me too!
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As the Bernie crowd feeds the frenzy, Bernie gets more confident, and criticizes Hillary even more, which only cheapens his message. How does an old guy from Vermont get such adoration? Because he promises free college tuition? Probably . And if the Bernie supporters don't win and vote a "protest vote" for Trump just to deny Hillary the presidency? It's Ralph Nader supporters denying the presidency to Al Gore all over again. Imagine what 8 years with Al Gore would have meant? We would be farther ahead on climate change, and would have saved $2.7 trillion in the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. If Trump is in the White House in November, Sanders supporters only have themselves to blame.
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So let me get this right: Hillary lost to Trump (who's got the highest unfavorability rating of'em all) and it's Bernie's fault?
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So, Hillary has no room for criticism? There is this thin-skinned attitudes in politics that seems to think that Bernie should be soft. How many times has Clinton's campaign adviser, her husband, and Hillary herself punched at Sanders as if they were punching down? The Clinton's are so afraid that they won't be able to steal this election with promises of money and positions to those willing to be cronies. The only reason the superdelegates are backing Hillary is because they are local and state level officials that are afraid of the Clinton Foundations ability to defund or otherwise harm their careers. It is that plain and simple.
With that type of campaign in mind, it should have been Bernie's immediate strategy to criticize both Clinton's for making democrats into spineless and trough-loving corporatists piggies.
With that type of campaign in mind, it should have been Bernie's immediate strategy to criticize both Clinton's for making democrats into spineless and trough-loving corporatists piggies.
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"How does an old guy from Vermont get such adoration?"
Because he's trying to get bribery out of politics
Because he's trying to get bribery out of politics
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Her years in the Senate? Which was a gift to her and she accomplished nothing for the state so what is she trying to tout here?
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She accomplished plenty for the state. Your statement, Anthony is vapid, faceless, and simply malicious.
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Please define "nothing."
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I'm not a Hillary supporter in any way, shape, or form. Your comment, however, was uncalled for and blatantly sexist. You wouldn't claim a senate seat to be "gifted" to man, would you? No, you would say he worked hard for that seat.
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Bernie is holding a street rally in the Bronx with an overflow crowd of 18,500 supporters feelin' the Bern, while Hillary is hosting her "Millionaires and Billionaires" at two high-dollar fundraisers. Greenpeace reports today that Hillary's campaign and her SuperPAC have received more than $4.5 million from the fossil fuel industry, and 57 oil, gas and coal industry lobbyists have directly contributed to Clinton's campaign; 43 of them giving the maximum allowed for the primary. Speaks volumes.
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Reality man- feel the Burn- it's called flaming lies. Documentation please? Oh we're supposed to take you at your word?
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People who work for oil companies have also given to Bernie Sanders campaign. Has he sent the money back? No. That is because he is being deceptive with his smears. You are falling for the smear. Obama took money from everyone. He was not corrupt either. It is a terribly negative thing for Bernie to do with these lies, but he has been doing it all along. That is why I have never supported him.
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Um they're called facts. Read them for yourself here:
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connecti...
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connecti...
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I really don't respect Sanders anymore for his smear of Hillary. She is not corrupt. She is more truthful than him. She tells people about reality and what will really work. She isn't leading people astray. Sanders is being less than honest about his plans. They won't work. They won't ever get implemented. He is promising the moon, and taking advantage of people's hopes with ideas like free college. Is he telling people how much he wants to raise their taxes? No. He paints Hillary with that horrible smear of corruption and claims he is holier than thou. I don't like that kind of person.
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Sanders says over and over that he cannot, no one can, do it alone. He doesn't lie or promise things he can't deliver. He states principles and goals, and you know that he believes them in his heart because he's been almost supernaturally consistent in his message and actions for decades. He does tell people what the costs will be. He's completely up front about everything he wants to do. Clinton on the other hand shifts like the wind. You really have no idea what she'll do if she gets into office, because she's been on every side of every issue according to what polls tell her. Ultimately she'll do what her financial supporters want, while telling the electorate what she thinks they want to hear. I fully expect her to support TTP if she gets into office, for example. Do you dispute that she's receives hundreds of thousands of dollars for a "speech"? You don't think that's anything else but legal bribery? That it won't affect her actions in office? Her corruption is completely out in the open, plain as day, and it is baffling that you cannot see it.
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Could not agree more. The sexism of the Bernie Bros are wearing more than thin too. No more free room and board in the extra bedroom kid.
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What? Bernie says that his plans will raise taxes, even taxes on the middle class.
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Of course I will support Senator Sanders if he is to be the nominee. However, I will continue for now to promote Secretary Clinton. She is experienced, smart, tough when needed, and running a fairer campaign than Sanders. I am frankly tired of his portraying her as not representing the 99%. She is and has been doing that rather successfully, and she will fight just as hard for fair pay, better wages, affordable health care and education. Let us not forget also her focus on Immigration Reform. As a final thought, and I am not embarrassed to admit this: It is time we have a woman as the POTUS. She has the makings of a president. I need not look any further.
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Wrong. She is by no means running a fairer campaign - push polls, negative attacks, and getting money from the fossil fuel lobbyists. Not fair.
She doesn't fight as hard for fair pay, only supporting $12 an hour. She doesn't support affordable education for the poorest families (making it a right for all Americans). And voting for a woman because she's a woman is sexist.
She doesn't fight as hard for fair pay, only supporting $12 an hour. She doesn't support affordable education for the poorest families (making it a right for all Americans). And voting for a woman because she's a woman is sexist.
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Negative, negative, negative. People are getting sick of the constant attacks on Hillary. What do you think about TRUMP?
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Lies, distortion, and undocumented assertions, all. Eric, from "Scotland" - and wearing a kilt does not excuse sexism one bit, ask ask of the Forbes porcine boors.
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My daughter lives in Brooklyn and a very diverse neighborhood, where I've visited recently. If her neighbors are anything like her, they work very hard and pay what I consider outrageous rents for decent but tiny apartments. The area is being "gentrified" so no doubt her rent will be going up, if she is not forced out in the process. I doubt that Bernie Sanders has a solution to that problem but at least he is on the side of hard-working city people living in the shadows of Wall Street and Manhattan opulence and if he can do anything at all to increase the rewards they get for their labor, lighten their loads just a bit, that "promise" is worth my vote.
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Really Annie? You think? Because Hillary actually has suggestions that would change the game. You people knock me out. The cliches in your post just tell me that you are way out of touch with reality.
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Teddy Roosevelt did exactly what Bernie is trying to do. He took on the major corporations and broke up the trusts of JP Morgan and Vanderbilt that had a stranglehold on American markets. People who cheer for Teddy Roosevelt should also be cheering for Bernie Sanders because they are very similar. Bill O'reilly on his show actually compared Bernie Sanders to Roosevelt, it was the first smart thing I had ever heard him say haha :)
Bernie is winning support across parties even reaching out to disenfranchised republicans who know and understand that putting too much power in the hands of corporations is bad for capitalism. Hillary barely can muster the support of her own party and would never be able to survive a general election. She has way too many skeletons in the closet and all of the "experience" people speak of. If she had to face a tough hitting challenger, that supposed experience would be shredded and the truth of her failures realized. Hillary can't win plain and simple but you can't convince the party establishment of that because they are blinded by the $$$$.
Bernie is winning support across parties even reaching out to disenfranchised republicans who know and understand that putting too much power in the hands of corporations is bad for capitalism. Hillary barely can muster the support of her own party and would never be able to survive a general election. She has way too many skeletons in the closet and all of the "experience" people speak of. If she had to face a tough hitting challenger, that supposed experience would be shredded and the truth of her failures realized. Hillary can't win plain and simple but you can't convince the party establishment of that because they are blinded by the $$$$.
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Mark- that's all she is good for "suggestions" many borrowed from Sanders. she won't get anything done either if the Republicans keep Congressional control.
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Whatever became of the term "Carpetbagger"? It used to be applied to Hillary all the time -- because it was true.
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Unlike Phoenix, NYC is a place where the best and brightest in politics, the arts and business go to make their mark. NY C is the capital of the world and sophisticated New Yorkers don't begrudge anybody who decides to move to NY to make their mark as long as they have meaningful contributions to make. NYC is a city of immigrants and dreamers.
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Yup. Bobby Kennedy was called a carpetbagger when he ran for the Senate from NY, and so was Senator Buckley.
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RJS, really well said.
This story thankfully holds open the possibility that Mr Sanders could win the NY primary. If he does, it will goad media, commentators, Democratic officials and voters generally to look afresh at the accepted narrative that Hillary Clinton is the only one who can win beat the Republican nominee in November.
That questioning should have begun last weekend, when Sanders won all three primaries with astounding 82, 75 and 70 percent of the vote, having a few days earlier won two of three primaries by huge margins, Mrs Clinton taking the third, Arizona, by 18 points. If a self-declared socialist, and one who has been scorned by the media, can inflict such heavy defeats on her, her November electability must be interrogated.
Outside the South, Bernie has in fact decisively won 14 primaries, while she has decisively won only three, Nevada, Ohio and Arizona. In 4 others, she has won only by razor-thin margins of 0, 1, 2 and 3 delegates in Missouri, Massachusetts, Iowa and Illinois. So outside the conservative South, which will go mostly Republican, Sanders has won 14 primaries and to her 7.
This must give voters not firmly committed to her some pause about their choice in the next month.
That questioning should have begun last weekend, when Sanders won all three primaries with astounding 82, 75 and 70 percent of the vote, having a few days earlier won two of three primaries by huge margins, Mrs Clinton taking the third, Arizona, by 18 points. If a self-declared socialist, and one who has been scorned by the media, can inflict such heavy defeats on her, her November electability must be interrogated.
Outside the South, Bernie has in fact decisively won 14 primaries, while she has decisively won only three, Nevada, Ohio and Arizona. In 4 others, she has won only by razor-thin margins of 0, 1, 2 and 3 delegates in Missouri, Massachusetts, Iowa and Illinois. So outside the conservative South, which will go mostly Republican, Sanders has won 14 primaries and to her 7.
This must give voters not firmly committed to her some pause about their choice in the next month.
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Please try to get at least one fact straight. All five "primaries" that you mention were not primaries at all - they were caucuses. The caucus that he won by "85 percent" was Alaska. He got a grand total of 440 votes for the entire state. As you point out, the only real primary was won by Secretary Clinton by 18 per cent.
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Glenn, I get your point but I think you missed mine over a technicality. Caucuses are immensely important and are integral partf of the primary process. Why is Iowa so terribly important? Why was Hillary so invested in winning the Nevada caucus?
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Glenn, please educate yourself with regards to how caucuses work. The numbers shown are not vote totals, but precinct delgate equivalents won at each caucus site. For example washington state had record turnout aka much higher turnout than Utah, which we know had 81000 participants, yet if yiu do what you did you would think only 19000 participated. Werr you seriously laboring under the delusion that only 400 people caucused in alaska? There were more than that in a single one of the 400 plus precincts... seriously...
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Bernie Sanders was born and raised in New York, but left for the University of Chicago, then decamped to Vermont in 1964. He has not lived in New York for 56 years.
The Clintons moved to New York from the White House, 16 years ago.
Traditionally New Yorkers welcome newcomers from all over the country and the globe, and moving here isn't considered an illegitimate maneuver, despite the ridiculous condemnation we're reading here from BernieBros.
18 years vs 16 years. Pretty equal.
The Clintons moved to New York from the White House, 16 years ago.
Traditionally New Yorkers welcome newcomers from all over the country and the globe, and moving here isn't considered an illegitimate maneuver, despite the ridiculous condemnation we're reading here from BernieBros.
18 years vs 16 years. Pretty equal.
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You lost serious people when you used the derogatory and false narrative term, "BernieBros". If you want to be taken seriously, speak out on the issues.
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To Chet T,
But, might the difference be that Sanders was seeking opportunity in Vermont, while Clinton was operating from opportunism? And, although a BernieBro, I voted for Clinton in both her Senate races, and will do so again in November if she wins the Democratic nomination.
But, might the difference be that Sanders was seeking opportunity in Vermont, while Clinton was operating from opportunism? And, although a BernieBro, I voted for Clinton in both her Senate races, and will do so again in November if she wins the Democratic nomination.
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The "Bernie Bro" tag is meant to insult Senator Sanders supporters? Not a good way to won over votes for Hillary. Hillary supporters are so insulting, I would never vote with that crowd.
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Live in Jersey City. Teach in New York City. Sometimes trek to Brooklyn looking for a new soul food restaurant. Could care less where Bernie was born or hangs his hat. He has my vote.
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Bernie is pure New Yorker. "New Yorker" is an ethos and outlook of dynamic creativity and questing for justice, a larger than life sense and imagination of what America can and should be about, true crucible of the Anerican dream. He is in the tradition of Jacob Riis and those pioneers for greater equality and inclusion. All this is in his blood and it shines in his every speech. He is classic New York.
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It will be very hard for Bernie Sanders to win. He is a long shot. But we have to try as hard as possible to elect him as the Democratic candidate.
But whoever wins the Democratic primary, it is essential for us to elect as President. Remember when the Green Party took only 2 or 4 million voters in the 2000 election and it gave us George W. Bush instead of Al Gore as President. It also gave us the Iraq invasion and ISIS. I don't like Hillary Clinton either. I see all of her faults. But she is far less worse for the country than any Republican because she will make better appointments to the Supreme Court than any Republican. So vote Democratic. We may get the Bernie revolution now or we may get it while Hillary is President. Either way, she'll go with the flow - that's her modus operandi.
But whoever wins the Democratic primary, it is essential for us to elect as President. Remember when the Green Party took only 2 or 4 million voters in the 2000 election and it gave us George W. Bush instead of Al Gore as President. It also gave us the Iraq invasion and ISIS. I don't like Hillary Clinton either. I see all of her faults. But she is far less worse for the country than any Republican because she will make better appointments to the Supreme Court than any Republican. So vote Democratic. We may get the Bernie revolution now or we may get it while Hillary is President. Either way, she'll go with the flow - that's her modus operandi.
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This sister ain't bending over to wash Bernie's dishes. That's a promise. Hillary has my back and I have hers.
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No matter who ultimately becomes the Democratic nominee, we need to work to give them a Democratic Senate and House.
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@Jenny- who cares, you're obviously misinformed and refuse to admitt Hillary has more skeletons in her closet than the Addams Family.
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Hillary is being ushered around by Chuck Schumer. I hope the two puppets are careful not to get their Wall Street strings tangled.
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Schumer makes me puke. But, Hillary is my gal. The fact that Wall Street needs her too doesn't keep me up and night, Stan. They need her, much more than she needs them. They are scared of her, it's obvious to those of us who know. Those who are hung up on hating mommy, not so obvious.
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As far as I'm concerned, he's no incentive to get me to support HIllary instead of Sanders. I think he's one of the most shameless and narcissistic self promoters around.
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I like Schumer. Hopefully he keeps his position (or gets upgraded to Sen majority leader). He has introduced some good legislation. Imagine what he can do with either one in the W.H.
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Hillary was a carpetbagger who used NY State as a political springboard. Stop implying that she is in any way a New Yorker. They bought a house in Chappaqua to establish residency, but she lived in Georgetown as a senator.
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The Clintons now live in their 5 bedroom house on Embassy Row in Washington. They bought it when they left the White House, staying in town because she was planning to run for the Senate. They bought the house in Chappaqua so she could establish NY residency to run for the Senate. Basically, the Clintons have lived in Washington D.C. since moving here in 1992. Worth over 100$ million, they're able to own homes in a lot of places. But they've never moved out of Washington D.C.
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"Hillary used NY as a springboard", kind of like Sanders used Vermont? Rational thought is flying out the window as the white guys realize their new dream date is not going to land on the aircraft carrier after all.
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wow. getting really silly now.
If being a New Yorker is the litmus test, neither passes. One bailed out for lily-white Vermont 50 years ago (when the majority of TVs were still B&W). The other did a drop-in, for just long enough to grab a Senate seat. The only true New Yorker in the race is Donald Trump. You may not like his politics, but his bonafides are pure NYC.
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Good catch, Ray. Trump is the only real New Yorker as evidenced by his being unafraid to speak his mind regardless of how nuts he makes everyone. Bernie, on the other hand, is always politically correct, a real politician whether people want to acknowledge it or not.
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He was not that "politically correct" when he spoke regarding the AIPAC meeting, there Trump was "politically correct".
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Being a true New Yorker myself I concede your point. Still going for Bernie though
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"we are coming after you"
Sounds downright menacing. I'm sure the media will be all over him for this threatening speech. Oh, wait...he's not a republican.
Sounds downright menacing. I'm sure the media will be all over him for this threatening speech. Oh, wait...he's not a republican.
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A New Yorker? As soon as Bernie's neighborhood started trending minority, he emigrated to one of the whitest states in the U. S. And there he has stayed. Senator Clinton chose to live in New York and visited every part of the state in her successful campaign for the Senate. Sanders still hasn't been in the parts of New York that Clinton knows well. Considering the fact that it has been fifty years since Sanders lived in Brooklyn, it's unlikely that, accent notwithstanding, he can legitimately claim current New Yorker status.
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the only place whiter than Vermont is Chappaqua, where the Clinton own property.
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You are right!! Obama at his first chance raced to one of the blackest city's in the US. Washington!!
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LOL, have you been to Chappaqua? You might have had a point if the Clintons bought in Spanish Harlem, but Chappaqua?
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Does Sanders really believe that he is going to win the nomination? Has he done the math? Does he really believe that he can just hand out free college tuition and healthcare? has he done the math? He keeps knocking Hillary down, and all he is doing is helping Drumpf waltz into the White House.
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No, he doesn't believe he can hand these things out, he believes policy can be implemented to make these things happen. Like when we enacted K-12 public schools, Social Security, and Medicare. No president simply "handed" these things out. The public wanted them and people fought for them and eventually they were legislated, and now we take them for granted. Well. Now there's more to do.
And if Hillary Clinton is weak enough of a candidate that Donald Trump could beat her, you can't blame Bernie Sanders for pointing out her record for that. Trump will do the same, and then some.
And if Hillary Clinton is weak enough of a candidate that Donald Trump could beat her, you can't blame Bernie Sanders for pointing out her record for that. Trump will do the same, and then some.
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Julia:
Are you aware that Vermont could not implement single payer because it turned out to be much more expensive than initially estimated?
Think about it. He couldn't even get it done in his own state. Somehow it is going to be affordable nationally? I have my doubts.
Are you aware that Vermont could not implement single payer because it turned out to be much more expensive than initially estimated?
Think about it. He couldn't even get it done in his own state. Somehow it is going to be affordable nationally? I have my doubts.
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Bernie Sanders is saying the same thing his inspiration, Eugene Debbs said:
"I am not a Labor Leader; I do not want you to follow me or anyone else; if you are looking for a Moses to lead you out of this capitalist wilderness, you will stay right where you are. I would not lead you into the promised land if I could, because if I led you in, some one else would lead you out. You must use your heads as well as your hands, and get yourself out of your present condition; as it is now the capitalists use your heads and your hands."
If Sanders is president, it will be up to us to demand free college education and health care.
When a million of us appear outside Mitch McConnell's window and demand free college education and health care, we'll get it. Although we may have to vote McConnell out of office first (which the Democrats should have been doing).
"I am not a Labor Leader; I do not want you to follow me or anyone else; if you are looking for a Moses to lead you out of this capitalist wilderness, you will stay right where you are. I would not lead you into the promised land if I could, because if I led you in, some one else would lead you out. You must use your heads as well as your hands, and get yourself out of your present condition; as it is now the capitalists use your heads and your hands."
If Sanders is president, it will be up to us to demand free college education and health care.
When a million of us appear outside Mitch McConnell's window and demand free college education and health care, we'll get it. Although we may have to vote McConnell out of office first (which the Democrats should have been doing).
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One day Democrats will be able to look back at this primary and say "I voted for the person that I really believed in and they won."
Life is too short to vote for someone because you think they're going to win. Clinton has no agenda, vision, passion, or skills. Her whole life has been one resume-building experience. Vote for someone that's actually lived, and does things because he cares, not because it'll further their career.
Life is too short to vote for someone because you think they're going to win. Clinton has no agenda, vision, passion, or skills. Her whole life has been one resume-building experience. Vote for someone that's actually lived, and does things because he cares, not because it'll further their career.
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And in this chaotic, Trump- focussed primary season there has been little disccussion of the issues you raise. Maybe they will come up in the course of the general election. I hope the Democratic bigwigs are prepared to have people turn their backs on her once such a discussion/vetting happens.
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"Stressing his BROOKLYN roots?" That's hysterical. I'm a native of this city and consider myself fairly well-informed especially with regards to national politics and the ONLY time I ever heard about Sanders was when he was FIRST elected to the Senate from Vermont. Since then, let's be honest, he hasn't accomplished much and only became a name when he announced he was running for president. THAT"S why I'd never vote for him even though he's a decent man with some good ideas. Still, he's never ACCOMPLISHED anything because he never gets enough support to enact his ideas. As to "stress being a New Yorker", well I've NEVER heard the words "Sanders and New York" combined in any way at all so THAT'S a stretch for sure! Clinton? How about living here since 2001 and representing us for TWO terms in the Senate and then as our Secretary of State? THOSE are accomplishments to be proud of, I'd say and SHE is the New Yorker, not Sanders.
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He's accomplished a lot, he just doesn't tout his personal record. He's more interested in a vision, but you're free to Google it. For specific insights into his executive style and abilities, look into his tenure as mayor of Burlington. Bernie gets it done.
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Burlington? BURLINGTON? You can't be serious. Burlington, Vermont is a small town. It is also an extremely non-diverse small town - hardly preparation for being President of the United States and leader of the free world. Sanders would be in so far over his head he would drown.
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This comment confuses me because as senator and secretary she was decidedly not in NY.
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I don't share all of Bernie's liberal mantras and beliefs, but as an overall candidate he is much better for the average American than Hillary or Trump would ever be. Finally a candidate who takes the issues of income distribution, climate change, campaign finance reform, and universal healthcare seriously. America is way behind the rest of the developed world in delivering good services to its citizens despite its extraordinary wealth and noble ideals. Citizens are forced to rely on a piecemeal and inefficient "healthcare" system that values the status quo and industry income above human health, send their children to poor quality public schools, and elect representatives who receive the majority of their campaign funding from wealthy special interests.
It's time for a systemic change in the way we do things in America, not more of the same crawling Democratic incrementalism or faith-based GOP neoliberalism. Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who stands for that change and I for one will be turning out to vote for him at New York's April 19th primary.
It's time for a systemic change in the way we do things in America, not more of the same crawling Democratic incrementalism or faith-based GOP neoliberalism. Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who stands for that change and I for one will be turning out to vote for him at New York's April 19th primary.
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Thank you!
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Look, New Yorkers are not stupid. They know the difference between someone born and raised in Brooklyn, and someone from Chicago. This is one reason people can't stand Hillary, the way she tries to be all things to all people. Yes, she was senator from New York, let her stand on her record, but she should knock off the "I'm a New Yorker" bit.
Second, Ms. Alcindor says here that this rally was his most diverse in months. I beg to differ. Here in Chicago just a few weeks ago I was at a Sanders rally at Roosevelt University and stood in line to get in for 2 hours along with several thousand people—African-Americans young and old, Latinos and Latinas, young Asian men and women, Middle Eastern men and women, old and young white people—the ethnic diversity was the main characteristic of the crowd. So please stop peddling this Bernie has no support among minorities canard. It just isn't so.
Second, Ms. Alcindor says here that this rally was his most diverse in months. I beg to differ. Here in Chicago just a few weeks ago I was at a Sanders rally at Roosevelt University and stood in line to get in for 2 hours along with several thousand people—African-Americans young and old, Latinos and Latinas, young Asian men and women, Middle Eastern men and women, old and young white people—the ethnic diversity was the main characteristic of the crowd. So please stop peddling this Bernie has no support among minorities canard. It just isn't so.
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I was gonna say, there were some pretty diverse crowds in Illinois and Michigan, as well as recently in LA. This narrative is so frustrating.
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New Yorkers also know what a "former" New Yorker is. That would be someone who hasn't lived here for decades.
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Born and raised and ran. Fifty plus years ago.
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Whether it is Hillary or Bernie it will be of particular importance whom the VP choice is. Both have age or health issues to consider. Has anyone noticed Bernie leans on the podium throughout most of the debates?
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Ha ha! That's the Sanders lean! Google him giving a speech in the 80's, it's the same. Personally I'm 31 and am tired just keeping up with him online. He hosts three rallies per day, generally, and many media appearances. Pretty incredible stamina.
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Everytime I see him give a speech I can't help but wonder if he would even make it through the stress of 4 years as president.
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Harriet,
It's not about age, it's about attitude.
Say that to yourself every morning when you get out of bed.
It's not about age, it's about attitude.
Say that to yourself every morning when you get out of bed.
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Sanders is far from perfect, but there are two places where he really stands out.
First, he refused to go along with the Washington crowd and vote to authorize George Bush's terrible, and hugely counterproductive, war in Iraq. This was perhaps the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, and he showed real judgement in not going along with it.
Second, he has refused to take money from wealthy interests to finance his campaign, and this is really basic to American politics in the Citizens United era.
First, he refused to go along with the Washington crowd and vote to authorize George Bush's terrible, and hugely counterproductive, war in Iraq. This was perhaps the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, and he showed real judgement in not going along with it.
Second, he has refused to take money from wealthy interests to finance his campaign, and this is really basic to American politics in the Citizens United era.
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Sounds like Bernie is running for mayor of NYC rather than president. It's disheartening to see a career politician who chose to leave NY and has done nothing for NYC let alone NY state promise a bunch of young people that he will bring them affordable housing and good jobs to Queens and the other Burroughs. Bernie Sanders knows better and is playing loose and fast with what his presidency can accomplish. Where has Bernie Sanders been for the last 40 years? Not anywhere NY that's for sure.
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That's right, he's been in Vermont because he lives there and represents them. But he was born in Brooklyn and identifies with the New York experience, that's all. And it's probably not fair to say nothing he's done has benefited New Yorkers. Perhaps not specifically, as that was never his job, but broadly, he certainly has.
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Please. Get over yourself. Where was Bernie? He was in the Senate, fighting for the problems that plague NYers without even representing them.
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Bernie Sanders did a lot for New York when he was in congress.
First, he voted against the Iraq war.
I wish our own Senators had done as much.
First, he voted against the Iraq war.
I wish our own Senators had done as much.
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Isn't funny how the Hillary bashers talk about her incrementalism? That her changes (many of which are the same as Sanders) will be a crawl implying that somehow he will come in and swoosh there will be free college, universal health care, etc. etc.
Truth is Sanders nor anyone else will have no choice but to bring about change in an incremental way.
The minimum wage hike to $15.00 in Washington State, California and New York will be implemented INCREMENTALLY. It is not happening in a month, or two months or three months. INCREMENTALLY.
If Sanders has another way to bring about the changes his followers seem to think will happen overnight I want to hear it. Unless of course he plans on nationalizing banks and other industries. Oh wait that might sound too much like what? Hmmmmm - communism.
Truth is Sanders nor anyone else will have no choice but to bring about change in an incremental way.
The minimum wage hike to $15.00 in Washington State, California and New York will be implemented INCREMENTALLY. It is not happening in a month, or two months or three months. INCREMENTALLY.
If Sanders has another way to bring about the changes his followers seem to think will happen overnight I want to hear it. Unless of course he plans on nationalizing banks and other industries. Oh wait that might sound too much like what? Hmmmmm - communism.
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No one thinks they'll happen over night. But if you want to get something good for yourself, you don't start negotiations in the middle. Go for the whole loaf, you may get half. Go for half? Crumbs.
Ha ha, communism.
Ha ha, communism.
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When I studied engineering, they taught me that incremental changes will give you very tiny electron tubes -- but they will never give you a transistor.
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@Norman - you are so pre-solid-state. More prone to failure and sentimental about it. Like your candidate. Bernie.
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How refreshing to read an article about Bernie Sanders in the pages of the NY Times! The Democratic primary in New York seems shaping up to be very consequential, so even-handed coverage from the Times would benefit everyone. Since I am registered as an independent I am not allowed to vote, but I will watch Bernie's progress with considerable interest.
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I am a ex-New Yorker for Bernie!
Come on, New York. Bernie is the real deal, authentic. For old-fashioned American values. For people before greed. And he will generate the excitement that will vote out the congressional trash.
Take the trash out with Bernie!
Come on, New York. Bernie is the real deal, authentic. For old-fashioned American values. For people before greed. And he will generate the excitement that will vote out the congressional trash.
Take the trash out with Bernie!
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I would love to vote for Bernie, but as an independent cannot vote in the NY primaries. I tried to switch to Democratic, but would have to have done the change 12 months before the primary under NY law (or maybe it's just Democratic law).
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Not 12 months. You just needed to have planned ahead. From the NY State Board of Elections home page: "To vote in the upcoming Presidential Primary, you must be a registered Republican or Democrat. For already registered voters, any change to party enrollment was to have been requested by October 9th, 2015 in order for it to have gone into effect and be applicable for any primary election occurring in 2016 or beyond. The deadline for new voter registrations is March 25th."
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Actually, the deadline was October 9, 2015-- last Fall. I looked it up after the debates and registered in time-- online.
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I am a one-percenter. Sanders speaks to everything I care most about: the environment, college education debt relief, health care as a right. He isn't bought and sold like HRC is. He has a lifelong commitment to public service, not public service "lite" as an express train to enriching himself through $225K speaking engagements to Goldman Sachs. He is a true public servant and has run a classy, gracious campaign (some of his supporters notwithstanding). He has my vote.
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Nice regurgitation of the shortlist talking points. Is that 'bulimia Brooklyn lite?'
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NYTimes readers know, Senator Sanders has an incredible track record of working within the system to get practical stuff done. He is a servant leader but a hustler. As the long-shot underdog running against the most established establishment candidate in recent memory, he's had to say some things to get people fired up. That's politics, and that's his hustle. The things he wants to invest our tax dollars in are no more expensive (and certainly much more ROI positive) than the multi-trillion dollar Iraq war and 700 billion dollar bank bailout, both of which of course he voted against. He is a reasonable and compassionate man who will bring dignity and fairness to the office. Hillary is a total badass and extremely qualified, but as NYTimes readers know the ongoing FBI investigation and her record of (mostly if not completely imaginary) scandals makes her a sub-optimal candidate to run against Trump. That's politics and that's why I'm voting for Bernie.
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Sounds like Bernie is running for mayor of NYC rather than president. It's disheartening to see a career politician who chose to leave NY and has done nothing for NYC let alone NY state promise a bunch of young people that he will bring them affordable housing and good jobs to Queens. Bernie Sanders knows better and is playing loose and fast with what his presidency can accomplish.
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Bernie Sanders has propsed free tuition at PUBlIC (but not PRIVATE) colleges and universities. The naysayers say this is a phantasy.
What the naysayers ignore is history. The history of the GI Bill tells us that the economy grwos by about $7 for every $1 spent on tuition.
Furthermore, we know from statistical analyses that a person with a college degree earns signoficantly more over a lifetime than a person with just a high school diploma. One estimate of the INCREASE in earnings is ONE MILLION dollars over a lifetime ($1,000,000).
In Massachusetts, a years tuition at UMass is about $15,000. A 4 year degree would cost $60,000.
In Massachusetts, the state income tax is a 5.3% tax. Applying 5.3% to the increase of $1,000,000 yields $53,000 in additional tax to the state. Add to that the FICA taxes (Social Security) and US income taxes at a minimum rate and the INCREASE in income yields significantly MORE tax revenue than the college tuition.
What this really means is that "free tuition" for public colleges is effectively "We will front the tuition money and you will pay it all back and more out of the INCREASE in income that the college degree will allow you to earn."
If that is understood, it is clear that EVERYBODY wins.
The student earns more money.
The student pays back the cost of tuition in taxes due on the INCREASE in income that the college degree provides.
Society has more well educated citizens.
What the naysayers ignore is history. The history of the GI Bill tells us that the economy grwos by about $7 for every $1 spent on tuition.
Furthermore, we know from statistical analyses that a person with a college degree earns signoficantly more over a lifetime than a person with just a high school diploma. One estimate of the INCREASE in earnings is ONE MILLION dollars over a lifetime ($1,000,000).
In Massachusetts, a years tuition at UMass is about $15,000. A 4 year degree would cost $60,000.
In Massachusetts, the state income tax is a 5.3% tax. Applying 5.3% to the increase of $1,000,000 yields $53,000 in additional tax to the state. Add to that the FICA taxes (Social Security) and US income taxes at a minimum rate and the INCREASE in income yields significantly MORE tax revenue than the college tuition.
What this really means is that "free tuition" for public colleges is effectively "We will front the tuition money and you will pay it all back and more out of the INCREASE in income that the college degree will allow you to earn."
If that is understood, it is clear that EVERYBODY wins.
The student earns more money.
The student pays back the cost of tuition in taxes due on the INCREASE in income that the college degree provides.
Society has more well educated citizens.
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I'm fine with this as long as the student candidates for free tuition pass some academic tests that show that they actually merit the tuition.
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The naysayers also ignore Europe.
The NYT asked a German mayor why they gave free college education (with living expenses) to *Americans*. He said that if they got a local job and stayed in the town for 3 years, the Americans would pay their tuition back in taxes.
Note that in Germany, college graduates actually get high-paid jobs.
The NYT asked a German mayor why they gave free college education (with living expenses) to *Americans*. He said that if they got a local job and stayed in the town for 3 years, the Americans would pay their tuition back in taxes.
Note that in Germany, college graduates actually get high-paid jobs.
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That is what is happening in Europe where tuition is free, and I have taught both at European and American universities.
If there were two Bernie Sanders running, one male and the other female, I'd vote for the woman. But there isn't. There's only one Bernie Sanders and the other, the more of the same (MOTS).
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If there were a female Sanders running, I'm sure you'd manage to find some sort of fault with her. Consistency does not seem to matter much to Sanders supporters. They'll use an argument against Hillary, then turn around and use the exact same argument in favor of Sanders. (Example: the superdelegates, who almost overnight went from being anti-democratic to being the best hope for Sanders.)
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Sanders ONLY path to the nomination is to portray Hillary to his followers, as evil. And he's working hard and spending tens of millions of dollars to do just that. New Yorkers who know Hillary, however, will come out and help her to win the NY Primary. I look at the photos included in this article and I see a bunch of young folks who have likely never even bothered to read the proposals or bios of the two candidates. They are the shiftless crowd, down on their luck, and united in their hatred for rich people. I get that. And so, of course, does Bernie. He doesn't even have to get into the nuts and bolts of his proposals. He doesn't have to explain anything. Just repeat the same stump speech over and over and over, yelling out AT the crowd, and taking no questions. An old man selling the impossible to keep those donations coming in; when he knows, and everyone on his team knows, he cannot win the nomination. Free education, as promised by Bernie, will be metered out to the States for implementation. One look at the States Legislative map and it's one big sea of red. Good luck with that Bernie. He hasn't been confronted hard enough or often enough to explain the impossible junk he is promising to so many "revolutionaries" with glazed-over eyes.
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You are doing what you accuse the Sanders camp of doing.
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Yes, another Clintonite "No, we can't" response to a true visionary. Inspiring.
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"Shiftless?"
Great adjective!
Worked well down South for a hundred years.
Great adjective!
Worked well down South for a hundred years.
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Mrs. Clinton is a New Yorker ONLY because, when the 1% decided she would be allowed to become a senator, the state provided the safest venue for her election. If, say, Oklahoma had provided the safest venue, she would be crowing now that she was a Sooner.
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Spin, spin, spin. Just like Sanders. You have to make it up as you go along. Spin and innuendo.
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If you read The Times story about Bill Clinton campaigning yesterday, all you need to know is his spending all that summer time out in the Hamptons with his wealthy friends.
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Well Hilary chose to come to NYC. . .and Bernie chose to leave it. What's his excuse?
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Sanders has been fighting for a $15 minimum wage from the start.
Hillary has been giving her generous "pragmatism" and "incrementalism" to us for years. While a millionaire herself, she does not believe the min wage should be $15 rather $11&pennies.
Bernie is one of us; Hillary is not.
Hillary has been giving her generous "pragmatism" and "incrementalism" to us for years. While a millionaire herself, she does not believe the min wage should be $15 rather $11&pennies.
Bernie is one of us; Hillary is not.
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I don't believe that Hillary will fight for a $12 minimum wage if she becomes president. It's campaign talk. Not so for Bernie. When he says that he supports a $15 minimum wage he means it. Bernie has walked picket lines with minimum wage workers. Hillary hasn't.
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Bernie is not from DC American Unity. And for the past 30 years he's been from Vermont. As an affluent (for a rural backwater) senator, enjoying babe #3. He doesn't ring my bell and he panders to the people who are ripe for victimization. I look at how he's spent all the millions he's raised. It's all been spent on ads defaming Clinton, not the Republicans He's spent it all. What's his plan B? He's a fraud.
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Oh just stop with the incrementalism. It is the ONLY way things get done unless Sanders knows something we don't. The $15 minimum wage is being PHASED in even in liberal states such as California and Washington State. That is called INCREMENTALISM!!!!
Just stop.
Just stop.
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In all the editorials and columns the nyt has scribed about hillary, the extreme majority of which are biased in her favor, new york is always termed her "adoptive" state. That says it all.
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No, Armo, it doesn't, because I know scores of families and individuals who are ardent Hillary fans who have received her help. They're not rich and they're not 'connected.' She is a great person, and maybe better than some, like you, deserve. But she's nuts and dedicated enough to be less vindictive than me. She is running and taking your abuse and worse. That should tell you something, really a lot more than seems to be in your repertoire.
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Democrats need to understand that they are being given a rare chance in Bernie Sanders to revitalize the Democratic Party, to bring it back to the philosophy that underpinned the FDR administration. If they reject this opportunity it could well be the ruin of the Democratic Party.
Realize that vast numbers of young progressives embrace Bernie's ideology and his campaign. If they are turned away by the party through its nomination of a status quo candidate like Hillary Clinton, they may well never come back. There are alternatives for progressives. I could foresee a mass exodus of young people, the future for the party, to the Green Party. It would be interesting to see the Green Party, a truly progressive party, take the place of the Democratic Party.
I have vowed to myself I will never again vote for any Democrat if they nominate Mrs. Clinton. I will join the Greens and work for them, whether they have millions of members or just thousands. As a Vietnam veteran, I have seen enough of the status quo militarism embraced by both the Republican and Democratic Parties and especially by Mrs. Clinton. I could never vote for her.
Realize that vast numbers of young progressives embrace Bernie's ideology and his campaign. If they are turned away by the party through its nomination of a status quo candidate like Hillary Clinton, they may well never come back. There are alternatives for progressives. I could foresee a mass exodus of young people, the future for the party, to the Green Party. It would be interesting to see the Green Party, a truly progressive party, take the place of the Democratic Party.
I have vowed to myself I will never again vote for any Democrat if they nominate Mrs. Clinton. I will join the Greens and work for them, whether they have millions of members or just thousands. As a Vietnam veteran, I have seen enough of the status quo militarism embraced by both the Republican and Democratic Parties and especially by Mrs. Clinton. I could never vote for her.
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Thank you for your service to our country. I appreciate your response and agree that I will never vote for Clinton and that so much will be lost if she is the nominee.
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So, in the end, everything about you is not voting for Hillary. But, reading your screed, I am reminded of the cynical remark by a psychiatrist who confided, "when the patient is male and doesn't want to really talk about what's eating them, I ask them about Hillary. Direct path to mommy."
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Don't be stupid. If all the votes for Ralph Nader had gone for Al Gore, we would never have had George W. Bush as President and the horror of the Iraq invasion - the worst foreign mistake the US has ever made - it haunts us to this day.
Seeing the world as black and white - my way or the highway - in undemocratic and a race to disaster.
Swallow your ego and start working to elect another Bernie Sanders in 2020 if he doesn't win the 2016 Democratic Primary!
Seeing the world as black and white - my way or the highway - in undemocratic and a race to disaster.
Swallow your ego and start working to elect another Bernie Sanders in 2020 if he doesn't win the 2016 Democratic Primary!
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The Times and most other media continue to describe Sanders' support as centering on areas like the Upper West Side and similar fairly upscale liberal strongholds. But the truth is that his support is generally negatively correlated to income; at least among white voters, he should do better in Queens than in brownstone Brooklyn.
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This drives me nuts, too. He does very well with working class people, which is why he is performing as strongly as he is.
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Love trumps hate.
I recommend people watch the video of this rally on C-SPAN; with stellar introductions by Rosario Dawson, Spike Lee, and Residente. Beautiful to witness people speaking from the heart and coming together.
I recommend people watch the video of this rally on C-SPAN; with stellar introductions by Rosario Dawson, Spike Lee, and Residente. Beautiful to witness people speaking from the heart and coming together.
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Starman,
http://www.c-span.org/video/?407458-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-sout...
I believe you are referring to this...^^^
Get! Out! and Vote!
#NotMeUs
http://www.c-span.org/video/?407458-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-sout...
I believe you are referring to this...^^^
Get! Out! and Vote!
#NotMeUs
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Agreed. Here's the link. http://www.c-span.org/video/?407458-1/bernie-sanders-campaign-rally-sout...
It's beautiful to see NYers at their most authentic and speaking with their hearts. Such an antidote to the phoniness of Hillary!
It's beautiful to see NYers at their most authentic and speaking with their hearts. Such an antidote to the phoniness of Hillary!
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I am a person born and raised in Brooklyn and believe with all my heart that the core values I share with Bernie Sanders in accepting that health care is a right of all people, that college students should not be saddled with massive debt for working hard and gaining an education, that senior citizens have a right to live a dignified life in their golden years and should receive more, not less, from social security and that the wealthy 1% in this country who own more than 50% of the entire wealth of this country should pay higher tax rates are also embraced and supported by my fellow New Yorkers.
We need a BIG win in New York and the mainstream narrative will fundamentally change. New Yorkers, the future of our country is in your hands.
We need a BIG win in New York and the mainstream narrative will fundamentally change. New Yorkers, the future of our country is in your hands.
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If he loves New York so much, then why did he leave? End up in a backwater state like Vermont? Population 600,000. Why, because it was the easy. A political career in a state with 600,000 while Hillary was a senator from New York State, population 20 million. So who's going to hit the ground running? Hillary Clinton.
She's been on the world stage for the past 25 years-First Lady in the White House, helped write her husband's Health Care Policy, what the Republicans labeled HillaryCare. Served two terms as Senator of New York State. Then as President Obama's Secretary of State during four of the moist tumultuous years in our recent history.
Her experience will allow her to transition into the presidency seamlessly. She's the right WOMAN at the right time for our country.
Sanders will not hit the ground running, instead he'll stumble along and get the boot after four years. You just can't expect to have the mundane political career he did in a state like Vermont, and mind you, being a senator since just 2006 in such a small state like that. And then tackle being President of the United States? I don't think so, Mr. Sanders.
That's why he deals in platitudes and spin when he does give his canned speeches. Wall Street, Trade Policies, Promises Free College Educations-boy if that isn't a way to get votes! Lure those burdened with Student Debt to vote for you. And listen up, he continually votes against the Brady Bill to appease the NRA and his gun owning constituents.
She's been on the world stage for the past 25 years-First Lady in the White House, helped write her husband's Health Care Policy, what the Republicans labeled HillaryCare. Served two terms as Senator of New York State. Then as President Obama's Secretary of State during four of the moist tumultuous years in our recent history.
Her experience will allow her to transition into the presidency seamlessly. She's the right WOMAN at the right time for our country.
Sanders will not hit the ground running, instead he'll stumble along and get the boot after four years. You just can't expect to have the mundane political career he did in a state like Vermont, and mind you, being a senator since just 2006 in such a small state like that. And then tackle being President of the United States? I don't think so, Mr. Sanders.
That's why he deals in platitudes and spin when he does give his canned speeches. Wall Street, Trade Policies, Promises Free College Educations-boy if that isn't a way to get votes! Lure those burdened with Student Debt to vote for you. And listen up, he continually votes against the Brady Bill to appease the NRA and his gun owning constituents.
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For all of Hillary’s talk about gun control, an NRA lobbyist was a co-host for one of her fundraisers. The Clintons are corrupt…the Clinton Foundation has had shady dealings…they have received $153 million in speaking fees. According to the Times, Clinton is the “TOP RECIPIENT of lobbying money” in this campaign.
NRA Lobbyist Will Co-Host Hillary Clinton Fundraiser
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fu...
Hillary Clinton 2016: DC Lobbyists Set To Raise Cash For Hillary Victory Fund
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyis...
NRA Lobbyist Will Co-Host Hillary Clinton Fundraiser
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fu...
Hillary Clinton 2016: DC Lobbyists Set To Raise Cash For Hillary Victory Fund
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyis...
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Clinton has been on the world stage - enriching herself and her foundation, and making disastrous foreign policy decisions. Sorry - just showing up, ain't enough.
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Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years and was in municipal government long before that. He has had a much lengthier political career than Clinton.
In 2008 we elected a first-term senator with almost NO national experience, whom we chose over Clinton for very good reason. Those reasons still exist, and this time the alternative to her is a very seasoned veteran who will bring about *real* change--not just corporatism in sheep's clothing. And regarding your specious "qualifications" argument: do you know who else is eminently qualified for the office of president? Dick Cheney. And we're not voting for him either.
Clinton is experienced and "qualified," yes; but that has never been the sole (or even most important) determining factor. What matters more are character, integrity, values, conscience, heart, and soul. None of those words is ever used when discussing Hillary Clinton. But they are the things that drove us to choose Obama, and they are the things that will drive us to choose Sanders.
In 2008 we elected a first-term senator with almost NO national experience, whom we chose over Clinton for very good reason. Those reasons still exist, and this time the alternative to her is a very seasoned veteran who will bring about *real* change--not just corporatism in sheep's clothing. And regarding your specious "qualifications" argument: do you know who else is eminently qualified for the office of president? Dick Cheney. And we're not voting for him either.
Clinton is experienced and "qualified," yes; but that has never been the sole (or even most important) determining factor. What matters more are character, integrity, values, conscience, heart, and soul. None of those words is ever used when discussing Hillary Clinton. But they are the things that drove us to choose Obama, and they are the things that will drive us to choose Sanders.
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Her comment that Mr. Sanders grew up in a home with black and white TV indicating he came from a somewhat impoverished background indicates that Ms. Alcindor must be quite young.
For at least the first half of his childhood, even many affluent families didn't have TVs as it wasn't until the late 1940s that there was anything on to watch. And few owned color TVs until the mid 60s as there were few programs in color until then.
If Mr. Sanders' family had a black and white TV before he was age 10 they were probably doing better financially than we have been led to believe.
For at least the first half of his childhood, even many affluent families didn't have TVs as it wasn't until the late 1940s that there was anything on to watch. And few owned color TVs until the mid 60s as there were few programs in color until then.
If Mr. Sanders' family had a black and white TV before he was age 10 they were probably doing better financially than we have been led to believe.
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Indeed. In fact, color TVs only made up 3.1% of television households in 1964, when Sanders was 23.
It's a strange thing to say.
It's a strange thing to say.
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Good point. The first season all three networks broadcast all prime-time shows in color was 1966-67. In 1968, NBC estimated that only 25 percent of American households owned color TVs.
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Oh, but I bet it was a TV he had to hand-crank.
And that was after he had to visit churches and synagogues and scrape the bottoms of candle holders to get the leftover wax so he could make his own candles, using bits of his own shoe laces for wicks, so he could study at night, to save on the electric bill for mom and dad. Oh, my little Bernie!
And that was after he had to visit churches and synagogues and scrape the bottoms of candle holders to get the leftover wax so he could make his own candles, using bits of his own shoe laces for wicks, so he could study at night, to save on the electric bill for mom and dad. Oh, my little Bernie!
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"Mr. Sanders spoke to an estimated 18,500 supporters at St. Mary’s Park, "
Its this kind of enthusiasm that will allow the Senate and House to change hands.
Its this kind of enthusiasm that will allow the Senate and House to change hands.
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You do know that 18,500 is just a good basketball game crowd - hardly an earth-shaking revolution.
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When I see Bernie's supporters I feel they are supporters of the new ruling class.Their Apple laptops and Facebook obsession is the new corporate face and wealth of America.People in glass houses.......
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Yes, Bernie and the Midterms! And, of course, this should be obvious. The issue of getting things through Congress is ridiculous when you think that the odds are (or were) more in favor of Congress becoming Democrat again than Sanders winning. If--when--he does win, the midterms should follow, if we all do our homework.
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Hey NY!
Just remember: only one candidate spoke out in support of CUNY, the greatest public university system in the country. Some candidates claim to believe in equality and justice. And others live it.
To the finish line!
Just remember: only one candidate spoke out in support of CUNY, the greatest public university system in the country. Some candidates claim to believe in equality and justice. And others live it.
To the finish line!
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Thank you for mentioning CUNY. I got my MA in Music from CUNY after years in London, including music college, and a grant for being UK resident in terms of education (rent = borough tax). Hunter's financial aid wasn't as generous, and I was initially out-of-state; but how soon we forget. State and city colleges did have reasonable fees; there are pragmatic tax measures that could make them reasonable again. Bernie 2016
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While Bernie Sanders’ call for a political revolution resonates with voters in general, the Wall-Street-supported former Senator Hillary Clinton relies on voters’ old memory of the bygone days. Starting from this year, any candidate who is a part of the establishment will be scorned. Electorate’s choice will no longer be between the pro-establishment and the pro-revolution but about whose revolution plan is more effective in making the necessary changes toward a new democratic society.
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Joel Benenson made the comment about campaigning like a Brooklynite etc., not Tad Devine so please correct. A rather cryptic comment anyway.
It may be a challenge for Bernie in NY but as more voters, especially the diverse communities of NY, get to know him, his message resonates. Time has always been his greatest obstacle given name recognition, familiarity with his platform and the media blackout for much of the first part of his campaign. Given all that, he's still done astonishing well.
It may be a challenge for Bernie in NY but as more voters, especially the diverse communities of NY, get to know him, his message resonates. Time has always been his greatest obstacle given name recognition, familiarity with his platform and the media blackout for much of the first part of his campaign. Given all that, he's still done astonishing well.
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His message is starting to mould in my book. Samo, samo, samo.
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It is beyond my comprehension that the Hillary Clinton campaign has the arrogance to call New York her home state, particularly when she is campaigning against an actual New Yorker. From Brooklyn to Buffalo, most New Yorkers oppose fracking, Wall Street Bailouts and reckless regime change. Many actual New Yorkers remember when CUNY had free tuition, and single-payer health care was a core of the Democratic party platform. Nearly every New Yorker South of Yonkers is seriously and legitimately concerned about rising sea levels. Contrast Bernie's historic visit to the Bronx with Hillary shouting at a protestor for voicing concerns about Hillary Clinton's ties to the fossil fuel industry. Clinton promises more of the same under the guise of incremental change, when millions understand that we needed substantial change yesterday. Sorry, Hillary, but real New Yorkers don't settle for less when we see an opportunity for more.
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In what imaginary universe is Bernie Sanders a "New Yorker"? He's a Vermonter. Don't take my word for it, just look at his bio. How could he be a U. S. Senator from Vermont if he is a New Yorker? You aren't making sense.
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And if Bernie loves New York SO MUCH, why is he a Senator in Vermont?
He took the easy way out, is why.
He took the easy way out, is why.
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There was a time when NY actually had some senators who didn't accept the status quo. In fact, in was a senator from NY, Robert Wagner, who back in the 1930s proposed a single payer health care system. That was during the height of the great depression. It seems that no matter how well our country does economically we never can afford what's taken as a basic right in all the other industrialized countries. Wagner also fathered the legislation allowing for workers to unionize.
And as to Clinton's criticizing Sanders' as aspiring to the unreachable, let us not forget that another NY senator, Robert Kennedy, used to end speeches by saying "Some men see things as they are and say why. I see things that never were and say why not."
Think about who fits more closely to those two great men: Clinton and Sanders?
And as to Clinton's criticizing Sanders' as aspiring to the unreachable, let us not forget that another NY senator, Robert Kennedy, used to end speeches by saying "Some men see things as they are and say why. I see things that never were and say why not."
Think about who fits more closely to those two great men: Clinton and Sanders?
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New York City will very likely be under water by the end of this century. If that scares you (and how can it not?), then don't elect the woman who has already taken in 4.5 million dollars from the fossil fuel industry. Bernie knows that climate change is the greatest threat to our country and our planet, and his donors support him with $27 donations. Come on, New York. Do us proud!
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Yay for saying that, Susan Smith from PA. Climate change is the biggest threat of all and Bernie is talking about it and corporate greed and all those important things that Hillary is not talking about.
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"WHY do all you berniebros hate women? WHY do you want to deny Hillary the THRONE that is hers by birthright??"
Can I have a job now, Mrs. Clinton?
Also, her website says the Hillary Victory Fund is being partly funded by the DNC and state Dem parties. How is that not totally illegal? 1) aren't they non-profits? 2) the DNC is run by her last campaign manager, who has said many times the DNC is "neutral".
Can I have a job now, Mrs. Clinton?
Also, her website says the Hillary Victory Fund is being partly funded by the DNC and state Dem parties. How is that not totally illegal? 1) aren't they non-profits? 2) the DNC is run by her last campaign manager, who has said many times the DNC is "neutral".
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That is a Republican smear from the Republican super PAC America Rising and it's lamentable that Bernie is so smug about twisting the truth. $160,000 small donations from employees of the industry went to her campaign and she supports a stimulus for communities affected by the transition from fossil fuels. The remaining amount is donations from the industry to the Clinton Foundation. It has nothing to do with her campaign. She has a detailed plan for transitioning to clean energy, and she is the only one with the executive skills to make it happen.
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Hey NY! Only one candidate has spoken out in support of CUNY, the greatest public university system in the country. Some candidates claim to believe in equality and justice. And some live it.
To the finish line, sir!
To the finish line, sir!
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Went CCNY on the taxpayers dime relayed many times over Bernie gets it
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Too bad for the facts - Hillary bailed out CUNY while Bernie was eating Oreo Cookie Monster in Vermont.
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that's an insane amount of people and yet the media hardly acknowledge that. sanders will surprise them yet again on the 19th!
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I read somewhere that the last person who visited the Bronx while seeking a presidential nomination was Bobby Kennedy. It may well be that a similar kind of determination - sparking a somewhat similar appeal to idealism - is in front of us now. The first time such energy has come along since 1968.
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Actually, funny you should mention Bobby, who asked me to help him with his wifey problem when I was a Dem. volunteer. What a pathetic person he was though conflicted. Failed Catholic hypocrite through and through. He helped torpedo Gene's campaign. What's your point again?
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Actually, it was Jimmy Carter - in 1977.
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Not an accurate statement. Jesse Jackson.
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Great article. Thank you. I am also wondering why conflicts of interest having to do with the Clinton Foundation and her running for office are not discussed much in the debates. This story from the NY Times is a big case in point... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-a...
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Could it be, Michael, from "Denver" because the Clinton Foundation is transparent and does great things? What a smug, and vacant smile your avatar has. Who do you work for exactly? GOP perhaps?
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He's busted, thank you. I have read Michael from Denvers posts for some time. He is definitely GOP cruiser.
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Well, Alice, I guess Charity Navigator gave up on trying to entangle the finances of the Clinton Foundation because their workings are so "transparent." Although it was documented in an article in this very paper last year that a whole 15% of what the Foundation rakes in might actually go to some sort of charitable activities. There's real transparency for you.
Running as a Brooklynite who fled to the whitest state in the country as soon as "those people" started moving into his neighborhood?
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Please check it out. I think you may have it wrong.
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That might be true of some but Bernie got arrested in Chicago for fighting for racial justice Hillary at the same time was a Goldwater girl Bill is responsible for tough welfare reform
and drug laws and racial attacks on Obama 8 years ago
and drug laws and racial attacks on Obama 8 years ago
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Actually, he has it absolutely right. You are the one who needs to do some homework.
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I support Senator Sanders because he seems to be calling all the elephants in the room:
global climate change
disgusting inequality
international trade agreements written behind closed doors
representative government that has been hijacked by moneyed interests
The current state of our democracy will not enable us to address the problems facing the US in the 21st century.
We need better government now.
This is why I support Senator Sanders.
global climate change
disgusting inequality
international trade agreements written behind closed doors
representative government that has been hijacked by moneyed interests
The current state of our democracy will not enable us to address the problems facing the US in the 21st century.
We need better government now.
This is why I support Senator Sanders.
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"We are coming after you!" screams Sanders to the one percent.
So just being wealthy is a crime? Will the guillotine be the instrument of choice? Isn't one candidate hinting at mob violence violence enough?
Trump and Sanders are playing the same game, promising the impossible and stoking the class hatred of their supporters. Trump's limited intelligence gives him little choice, but Sanders should know better.
So just being wealthy is a crime? Will the guillotine be the instrument of choice? Isn't one candidate hinting at mob violence violence enough?
Trump and Sanders are playing the same game, promising the impossible and stoking the class hatred of their supporters. Trump's limited intelligence gives him little choice, but Sanders should know better.
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No, that's not what Sanders is saying. He is saying that he and his supporters will work to design a government that works for the people, by the people, and of the people. It's not just being wealthy, but using that wealth to influence politics so you gain more wealthy that is unethical. This is what has led to the problems in this country and Sanders is right about that. Sanders is not promising anything other than saying he'll be responsive to the will of the people, not just an elite.
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Yeah, he should go after the dime bag dealer "super-predators" and "bring them to their heels" or maybe he should deport the Mexican mom who stole a box of pasta to feed her kids. It's definitely more meaningful then giving the rich all the breaks they need: tax breaks, property zoning breaks, tax holidays to bring the monies stashed abroad... Go Bernie. Bring he poor to their heels. Then, and only then, the rich will love you.
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Don't be stupid - all he is saying is the wealthy need to start paying their fair share of taxes instead of relying on tax inversions and loopholes - he is not against the wealthy.
Even Warren Buffet says it is unfair he is paying less taxes than his secretary. And believe it or not income inequality if left uncontrolled is one of the biggest threats to a stable society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
Even Warren Buffet says it is unfair he is paying less taxes than his secretary. And believe it or not income inequality if left uncontrolled is one of the biggest threats to a stable society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
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HRC & her husband have used NY to become multimillionaires. That's the extent of their real interest in us, their own self-enrichment. Bernie Sanders has never had any interest in using elective office for amassing wealth for himself. He's served over 30 years in elective office, serving people, not himself.
Vote for Bernie, avoid GOP-lite HRC.
Vote for Bernie, avoid GOP-lite HRC.
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How admirable. He high-tailed it to a remote state of 600,000. Gave speeches at the Annual Maple Syrup Conventions. He'll never hit the ground running, that's for sure. He'll get so bogged down by the Republican Congress, he's get voted out after one failed term.
And how did the Clintons use New York State, oh wiseman? You're spinning things to make a point. Tell us how they decided to make their millions. If you can match in your lifetime what the Clintons do in a year to better mankind, you's have something to be proud of. You know not of what you, and the rest of your Millennial types, speak. Spin and false innuendo is all you have.
And how did the Clintons use New York State, oh wiseman? You're spinning things to make a point. Tell us how they decided to make their millions. If you can match in your lifetime what the Clintons do in a year to better mankind, you's have something to be proud of. You know not of what you, and the rest of your Millennial types, speak. Spin and false innuendo is all you have.
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And what has Bernie Sanders used NYC for other than an Exodus point to Lily White Vermont for over three decades?
Vote Hillary, avoid the non-entity, bloviating Senator with no real influence.
Vote Hillary, avoid the non-entity, bloviating Senator with no real influence.
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I don't know- Merc, the Clinton foundation taking over 20 mill from Saudi Arabia/ UAE just doesn't sound too pc-
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In New York City Bernie Sanders will do stellar in the gentrified parts of Brooklyn and poorly every else. Make what you will of that
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Wrong. The "TRUTH" is heard...EVERYWHERE.
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Just once - as a lifelong Brooklynite I'm ashamed we produced this egotist, this fantasist, this pointless distraction from serious life-or-death political combat.
Get Lost Bernie.
Get Lost Bernie.
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In case you are considering changing careers you may want to try taking a stab at writing fiction. You seem to be very good at it.
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"serious life-or-death political combat"
Time to unplug the Xbox.
Time to unplug the Xbox.
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Yeah, get lost Bernie, as soon as I bundle $35300, I'll go to a Hillary fundraiser and have my picture taken with her. She is truly the best.
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Senator Bernie Sanders is a compassionate man who has devoted his life to public service. I strongly support Bernie's platform of universal health care, his sane approach to higher education for our kids, his support of unions and apprenticeships, his advocacy for rebuilding infrastructure and for green energy jobs, legislation against corporate tax avoidance, ending Citizens United, restoring banking regulations, and his unending appeals to our better nature.
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How about his vote of "yea" on the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which mandated a life sentence for anyone convicted of three drug crimes; expanded the list of death penalty crimes; lowered the age at which a juvenile could be tried as an adult to just 13; and appropriated billions to expand the prison system and hire 100,000 new police officers?
Or voting against a measure which would have prohibited police acquisition of tanks and armored vehicles, things that he criticized in Ferguson? Or that he's intending to keep Obama's drone program if he's elected? What about his several votes in favor of keeping the war in Iraq going?
Sanders talks a good talk, but his record seems to contradict him a lot of the time.
Or voting against a measure which would have prohibited police acquisition of tanks and armored vehicles, things that he criticized in Ferguson? Or that he's intending to keep Obama's drone program if he's elected? What about his several votes in favor of keeping the war in Iraq going?
Sanders talks a good talk, but his record seems to contradict him a lot of the time.
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Devoted his life to public service because it seemed he couldn't hold down a job anywhere else. Never had a stable job before going the safe mode - government.
Unlike many Hillary haters I will vote for him if he is the nominee because I will not vote Republican, but I feel Bernie is a suited hippie stuck in the 60's
Unlike many Hillary haters I will vote for him if he is the nominee because I will not vote Republican, but I feel Bernie is a suited hippie stuck in the 60's
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And what about his siding with the NRA by voting against the Brady Bill over and over again?
Much of his constituency are gun owners, so to get elected, over and over again, he had to pick out a bone to throw their way, and he chose the Brady Bill. A win. win, win for himself, his gun loving constituents, and the NRA.
Admirable? No.
Much of his constituency are gun owners, so to get elected, over and over again, he had to pick out a bone to throw their way, and he chose the Brady Bill. A win. win, win for himself, his gun loving constituents, and the NRA.
Admirable? No.
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