Socialist tend to be fixated on social difference and fetishize them as they amplify them, at least in their own thoughts and psycho-social narratives. And, they like telling white people that no matter how bad they may think they have it, surely black people have it worse, as if that thought is supposed to bring a sense of encouragement to downtrodden white people, while reminding black people of where they stand on the totem pole, at least where socialist are concerned.
Authenticity is just that, being authentic. True to oneself, True to one's beliefs and true to others. We cannot even believe that today in 2016, we have a once in a lifetime candidate like Bernie, right before our eyes, I dare not blink. May his message and his single minded focus guide us in the future, for the sake of our children, grandchildren and the planet. Thank you Universe for bringing us a messenger.
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If you've been calling for a political revolution for 40 years, and you have little or no legislative accomplishments to show for it, isn't that a bad thing?
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Sanders disdains people who do not share his ideological purity. That comes through loud and clear: If you don't support all facets of his Revolution, you're either 1) A plutocrat, 2) a paid-for shill or 3) a hapless rube.
I suppose that is admirable, in some respects, but it's a horrible quality in a President. The President has two jobs: represent the country abroad and ride herd on a nation full of people who wildly disagree. On the former, the debates have convinced me that Sanders is profoundly uninterested-his most impassioned arguments are against Henry Kissinger. On the latter, it is clear that Sanders thinks one who compromises is fatally compromised, and it's his way or the highway. We already have one party that thinks that way, no need for another.
I suppose that is admirable, in some respects, but it's a horrible quality in a President. The President has two jobs: represent the country abroad and ride herd on a nation full of people who wildly disagree. On the former, the debates have convinced me that Sanders is profoundly uninterested-his most impassioned arguments are against Henry Kissinger. On the latter, it is clear that Sanders thinks one who compromises is fatally compromised, and it's his way or the highway. We already have one party that thinks that way, no need for another.
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Something the naysayers about a Sanders' presidency have overlooked. Sanders is an independent who caucuses with Democrats. That means he gets along with Democrats but is not beholden to the party. As president, he would owe the party some allegiance, sure, but he would not carry a lot of partisan baggage with him into the Oval Office. Republicans couldn't constantly harp about what Democrats have done or not done in the past to cover their own sins and obstruct his agenda. He could break the partisan gridlock based on all that old history of party politics. Sanders is not a party-line man. He works for the people who elected him and he would force Republicans to do the same by his example.
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I think the answer to this year's presidential race is simple and a win-win for both parties. Hillary can run as the Republican nominee. She would get the glory, only in a red suit instead of a blue one. She won't even need to change any of her policies. She is what the Republican party was when she was one. She is the type of Republican the GOP tossed out and now realize that they should have thought about that a bit longer. They would welcome her now that their choices are between awful and truly terrible.
Bernie could run as the Democratic nominee. Democrats like him as much as they like Hillary, maybe even a bit more. The Independents like him and they don't like her, so that is a plus for turnout on the Dem side. He is what Democrats were before they became Republican light under Clinton, the male.
What do you think? The GOP can boot out their losers and get a viable candidate. They get a real Republican for candidate. The Democrats get a real Democrat for a candidate. The country can get a lesson in democracy. What's not to like?
Bernie could run as the Democratic nominee. Democrats like him as much as they like Hillary, maybe even a bit more. The Independents like him and they don't like her, so that is a plus for turnout on the Dem side. He is what Democrats were before they became Republican light under Clinton, the male.
What do you think? The GOP can boot out their losers and get a viable candidate. They get a real Republican for candidate. The Democrats get a real Democrat for a candidate. The country can get a lesson in democracy. What's not to like?
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Talk is easy, walk is hard. Bernie is preaching the same for his whole life. During 30 years in Congress, he could pass only three bills reflecting his limited legislative skills. Both Senate and Congress will be under the Grand No Party, if he gets elected as President. His chance of passing a single bill will be zero. The Grand No Party also controls the Supreme Court. So, all his talks on free college, Medicare for everyone are illusions to get elected. Alas that the young people supporting him do not understand the political process. They are supporting someone in the name of revolution and it is pathetic. The math does not add up either. We do not have the trillions to pay for the great things he is using to market himself. Alas, both Trump and Bernie are using the same worthless populist strategy to get into the White House. It is phony and dishonest.
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If a guy raves about having a revolution for decades, why not take him at his word. When confronted and asked how his revolution is going to work, he says he's going to get millions to surround the Capitol and force politicians to do as he demands. Why not take him at his word? When he describes a scenario which means the end of democratic government in the US, why not take him at his word?
Now, the question is: do you really want a socialist revolution to replace democracy in the USA? Do you really expect the rest of us to just lie down and accept the overthrow of the government?
Now, the question is: do you really want a socialist revolution to replace democracy in the USA? Do you really expect the rest of us to just lie down and accept the overthrow of the government?
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Bernie was ahead of his time. If his message had been heeded, maybe the political climate would be different. Bernie is an idealist; he can be unyielding, but not necessarily uncompromising (the VA bill w/ McCain being a good example). I don't think Bernie lets the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Bernie is a voice for justice and fairness. Will we achieve those ends tomorrow, or the day he is inaugurated, or the year later. Probably not, oit will take time. However, as I reflect on this Good Friday on the message of Jesus, His prescription for justice and fairness also has not been implemented, and some 250 Million Americans call themselves Christians. So if you ask me, Bernie, the Jew from Brooklyn, is a better Christian than the callous Ted Cruz or the hateful Trump.
Bernie is a voice for justice and fairness. Will we achieve those ends tomorrow, or the day he is inaugurated, or the year later. Probably not, oit will take time. However, as I reflect on this Good Friday on the message of Jesus, His prescription for justice and fairness also has not been implemented, and some 250 Million Americans call themselves Christians. So if you ask me, Bernie, the Jew from Brooklyn, is a better Christian than the callous Ted Cruz or the hateful Trump.
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Speak of "singing the same tune', the NYT has been doing this for the whole campaign with Hillary. Time for a reality check NYT. Bernie should no doubt apologize and say he is in favor of the !% economically exploiting the rest of us. Than would show real growth. Enough with your backhanded under mining compliments.
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Much like Cassandra, who was cursed with foresight and truth telling, but never believed; Sen. Sanders has spoken his truth, remained true to his ideals for decades. It is a disservice however by Mr. Horowitz and the NYT to conflate Sen. Sanders' stump speech consistency with rigidity. Sadly, ten months into his campaign, nearly half way through the primaries, Sen. Sanders' record of work, bills, compromises, actual achievements, such that he was dubbed the Amendment King, have been largely undiscussed, unexplored. The American voter might be surprised to learn about a politician who has gone to work for what he conceived to be the good of his constituency day after day, year after year. The foundations of American middle class life are not extravagant: available, fair employment, affordable food and housing, public education, health care security, dignity in retirement. Even a simple decent life is not free, but today for too many the basics are inadequate, unavailable, or unaffordable. It's still the economy, stupid; but in an atmosphere where many folks feel they're getting less and less, a consistent, authentic spokeman has found a ready audience. And no, this doesn't just go away if Bernie loses or 'gets hit by a bus.' Bernie has established the conversation. The benchmarks of Progressive ideals will continue to be addressed. The DNC, sadly may be as out of touch with its base as bewildered GOP.
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I don't see anything he says is wrong. Just his math....which is a pretty big deal....if you are going for 'authentic democrat'.
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Perhaps we have been shortchanged for too long and are fed up with unpredictable politicians. Bernie is who he is and we can count on him to represent us. Honestly, after seeing how Republicans in Congress obstructing everything President Obama does, Bernie will do just fine in the White House.
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Sorry,but the problem is not the"billionaire class"nor that anything has changed,with the exception of increased apathy & reliance on"quick fixes". While Bernies message hasn't changed,the world has.The problem is we do not engage people to get their point of view or come to any agreement or understanding,no empathy for others beliefs. If Bernie were to become president, would he be a president of Republicans too? It is something that President Obama has dealt with very well. He has used every Constitutional tool available to implement the platform he was elected on. I won't get into party politics,but our nation has been able to "improve" itself over 200 years without revolution & wars as much as some people would like ,because we have rules of law & compromise. Can he compromise? Can he be the President of all the United States,even the racist,bigoted,& the greedy. In our Middle East wars ,he opted out of Afghanistan because it was a "quagmire", and when we invaded them for whatever reasons that Bernie supported it in the first place,did he just say "Oops, it's too hard"? "Sorry guys, I was wrong."? Our problems as Americans is we forget that the democratic process for change is being engaged every day in our government & not just saying electing Bernie or Hillary or Trump or Cruz will solve all our problems. My problem with Bernie is not his message but he has been missing in action helping elect the 535 members of Congress who will make a difference. Hillary has not.
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New Hampshire was the "high point" of Bernie's campaign?
"Mr. Sanders is now facing a speeding bus in the form of Mrs. Clinton’s formidable delegate advantage."
Looks like someone learned their lesson from the "Legislative Side Doors" stealth editing fiasco -- now the blatant editorializing is baked into the original version.
Reading this article, you would never guess that Bernie just won nearly 80% of the vote in recent primaries in Idaho and Utah - more than enough to offset the delegates from Hillary's 60% victory in Arizona that day. This race is not over.
(Trump, for reference, has yet to break 50% of the popular vote in any state.)
"Mr. Sanders is now facing a speeding bus in the form of Mrs. Clinton’s formidable delegate advantage."
Looks like someone learned their lesson from the "Legislative Side Doors" stealth editing fiasco -- now the blatant editorializing is baked into the original version.
Reading this article, you would never guess that Bernie just won nearly 80% of the vote in recent primaries in Idaho and Utah - more than enough to offset the delegates from Hillary's 60% victory in Arizona that day. This race is not over.
(Trump, for reference, has yet to break 50% of the popular vote in any state.)
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So, is it a bad thing to be ahead of your time? Hillary's campaign depends on parlaying one marginal (if not questionable) state victory into another, using the appearance of electability to fulfill itself. The reality, however, is that most of the country strongly dislikes Hillary Clinton and respects Bernie Sanders. I wonder if the author is surprised or is pretending to be surprised that Hillary "still has trouble convincing voters she is trustworthy". After all, they should only they be convinced of that if she is honest and sincere, i.e. trustworthy. There is a massive body of empirical evidence that indicates otherwise - much of it on the internet. Funny, she still is having trouble convincing younger generations to vote for her....
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Sanders is right to hammer that point. Economic inequality continuously breeds all kinds of disparities.
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Still don't know what the "revolution" is, and when I ask Bernie Bros just tell me I should know and insult me for being stupid. Charming.
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He has had the same message, but got nothing done. To me, that says he isn't a very strong or persuasive leader. Unfortunately for Bernie, his time has come and gone. Now, he looks like an old coot up there onstage shouting in his Brooklyn accent with his arms flailing.
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There is a paradox in Bernie Sanders: he believes that radical change is needed, and he has worked toward that change in a relatively slow, diligent, un-radical way. He marries a deep and unshakeable conviction in his vision for America with a rare agility and pragmatism as a legislator. Known as the Amendment King, Bernie works with politicians of all stripes, targets incremental changes, and compromises often -- and gets things done. Unlike so many republicans, Bernie doesn't need to issue ultimatums or throw tantrums to prove his ideological purity. His values are the bedrock of his political career, and they are the bedrock of his current campaign.
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For how long have many people have been singing the tune of Civil Rights, human rights, ending racial discrimination.
Too bad Hillary has just started choir practice to these tunes.
Too bad Hillary has just started choir practice to these tunes.
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Clinton Vs Sanders is like corporate media such as NBC, CBS and ABC Vs PBS.
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Right. Soon, at the "We've Won!" Hillary Victory Fund (Clooneys-Shervin Pishevar) dinner you can have an especially nice seat for just $353,400. Or a $100,000. Or a cheap seat for $33,400. Yep.
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First you ignore Bernie Sanders until it's embarrassingly evident that you're doing so, then pay him scant, passing, uninterested notice. and when you give him some faint praise it's with a negative slant.
Well, we've already had a revolution and it moved the money to the top 1%, jobs overseas, bailouts to too-big-to-fail banks, black men to for-profit prisons, and power to corporate zombie "personhood". I think it's high time to feel the Bern.
Well, we've already had a revolution and it moved the money to the top 1%, jobs overseas, bailouts to too-big-to-fail banks, black men to for-profit prisons, and power to corporate zombie "personhood". I think it's high time to feel the Bern.
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Bernie is about ideas while other candidates strut their egos. His candidacy is gift to us, offering perhaps better than we deserve. Maybe you just don't recognize genius.
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@freyda
Perhaps what we should do is start erecting statutes of Bernie
Maybe we should also start referring to him as "Dear Leader"
Oh wait "Dear Leader" is taken ummm
Oh I know how about "the Great Shepherd" as he is certainly a leader of sheep!
Perhaps what we should do is start erecting statutes of Bernie
Maybe we should also start referring to him as "Dear Leader"
Oh wait "Dear Leader" is taken ummm
Oh I know how about "the Great Shepherd" as he is certainly a leader of sheep!
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So what? A real journalist would look into whether what Bernie has always been saying is TRUE. Lame puff pieces are a waste of our time. Do your job. Aren't you paid to actually investigate important subjects for us? I pay for the Times to inform me. This article was not informative.
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No one has vetted Mr. Sanders yet. If or when they do, many of his supporters will wish they had researched him more and/or they had actually researched the bogus claims made against Secretary Clinton by the Republicans all these years. This election is far too important to not have done your homework on all of the candidates. Bernie is not being totally honest.
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Hey nyt, how will your staff dismiss Sanders' massive rallys? Will you say only 30,000 showed up? You and your gal hillary need to tune up your receptors and listen to what is going on.
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OMG, voters count. Delegates count.
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As an educator I teach my students to embrace perhaps the most important 21st century skill --continuous growth. Yet, our youth are enamored of a candidate who not only fails to display this important quality but models the opposite. What does that say about our/their future?
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Will need buckets of popcorn for this Presidential election season. One contender is under Justice Department investigation. Another contender is an old, really old, socialist. Another contender is rude and crude to anyone not sufficiently nice to him. Another has alienated just about every leader in his party. And bringing up the rear is, in my opinion, the only civil and sane voice in the bunch.
Yep. Gonna pop a lot of popcorn.
Yep. Gonna pop a lot of popcorn.
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I've been a staunch Democrat most of my life (except when I voted for John Anderson in my younger days - remember him? Didn't think so). But I cannot stand even listening to Bernie Sanders talk. His voice rankles with anger and confrontative aggression. He points, waves his arms, and uses annoying responses like "Look" and "Listen." Hey, Bernie: I'm looking and listening and I don't like what I'm seeing and hearing. I don't believe or like Bernie any more than I believe or like Donald. They are alike in their over simplification of solutions and their hostility.
Will I vote for him if he wins the Democratic convention? I don't know.
Do I think he can handle the International scene as POTUS? No, not at all.
Will I vote for him if he wins the Democratic convention? I don't know.
Do I think he can handle the International scene as POTUS? No, not at all.
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If he's serious about his agenda, he should encourage his supporters to become involved on a local and state level to continue the fight there. With time, that could become a revolution.
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@prnter,
There are articles available online which discuss individuals who're doing exactly what you've mentioned. They're running for office and they were inspired by Sanders's message. One piece was the New Republic in Feb. 2016. Another one was the in the NYT March 2, 2016. The one in the NYT was rather condescending and dismissive, but it was there.
3-26-16@12:16 am
There are articles available online which discuss individuals who're doing exactly what you've mentioned. They're running for office and they were inspired by Sanders's message. One piece was the New Republic in Feb. 2016. Another one was the in the NYT March 2, 2016. The one in the NYT was rather condescending and dismissive, but it was there.
3-26-16@12:16 am
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What Sen. Sanders pointed out in 1971 was a genuine problem then, and one that powerful people and their representatives in government were ignoring. Far from changing, it has only gotten worse. If you want to change that, the first thing you have to do is to keep putting it in front of people, until they see it. Ignoring it is to support it. To his credit, Sen. Sanders has never ignored it. The victims of the cozy arrangements that favor the wealthy may just have crossed over the tipping point this time. If so, the "news" media, HRC supporters, and pundits who have belittled this consistency of his may finally wake up too. We'll see.
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And yet, when he gets hold of other peoples money he spends it like a capitalist. When he was Mayor, didn't he get Jane hired? When she became President of Burlington College, didn't she channel over a half million dollars to her daughter's wood shop, while raising the student tuition $5,000? Haven't they been criticized for having his campaign put Jane and her daughter on the payroll? He is a socialist with your money and a capitalist as soon as it reaches his pocket.
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Speeches tailored to specific audience demographics are just insincere pandering. Sanders has copped criticism for "repetition" before by commentators obviously so used to politicians lying and pandering that they fail to recognise consistency and sincerity as an admirable virtue.
Sanders is the real deal and such a stark contrast to his shape-shifting Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. I hope his revolution can come to fruition and he does not become America's last honest and sincere candidate to run for president. The rest of the candidates vying for America's top job this year all seem to have emerged from varying depths of the same murky pond.
Sanders is the real deal and such a stark contrast to his shape-shifting Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. I hope his revolution can come to fruition and he does not become America's last honest and sincere candidate to run for president. The rest of the candidates vying for America's top job this year all seem to have emerged from varying depths of the same murky pond.
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Well, we all know the New York Tines is all about Hillary, so they have to frame consistency as a bad thing. The one thing you can't say about Hillary is that she's consistent.
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Our governments, republican controlled or democratic have largely followed a few core principles when it comes to domestic policy, foreign policy or politics. Change has only been at the edges depending on who is President. Most of those policies have not worked. We are livingoff the wealth we created in the past and the military supremacy which we buy with debt. It is time for a fundamental change. And Bernie is the only one who seems to be speaking that language. I still believe Mrs. Clinton will be indicted and Bernie will be President.
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Character, honesty, visionary ideas, and gumption to speak the truth that will help the average American-- that's Bernie. And that's why those who see him, hear him, research him online-- fall in love with him.
Go Bernie!
Go Bernie!
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Business only becomes more efficient.
Efficiency in business costs jobs. Cost cutting? Jobs lost. Mergers? Departments eliminated. Megacorporate companies have already made it virtually impossible to start-up a business in many industries, yet hoard money, dodge taxes, and cut jobs. We don't even think about it - good luck building a credible OS business, a cable service that isn't awful, or a mechanic shop (welcome to 10k in fees, per year, for computer codes to the cars you're trying to work on).
The bottom rung doesn't have much room to shrink, so profits are taken out of the middle class, while the battle rages to keep our embarrassing minimum wage down, despite the fact that Australia managed not to detonate when they raised theirs. Or Seattle. Remember? The Koch brothers forgot... quickly.
Even the Times is swinging for Hilary (and putting a disappointingly negative light on Sanders). It's hard to tell what the real problems are - both sides distract us with nonsense... microagressions and smugness, abortion bans and gender panic... while the Arizona election is rigged. Where's the protest parade for that?
The only candidate with believable enthusiasm for what needs doing is Bernie. I'd rather watch the system fall apart quickly under Trump than slowly under Hilary. We notice problems better when we aren't in a slow-simmer pot. Bernie isn't a miracle; he's just got his heart in the right place, and apparently always has. Okay, maybe that takes a miracle.
Efficiency in business costs jobs. Cost cutting? Jobs lost. Mergers? Departments eliminated. Megacorporate companies have already made it virtually impossible to start-up a business in many industries, yet hoard money, dodge taxes, and cut jobs. We don't even think about it - good luck building a credible OS business, a cable service that isn't awful, or a mechanic shop (welcome to 10k in fees, per year, for computer codes to the cars you're trying to work on).
The bottom rung doesn't have much room to shrink, so profits are taken out of the middle class, while the battle rages to keep our embarrassing minimum wage down, despite the fact that Australia managed not to detonate when they raised theirs. Or Seattle. Remember? The Koch brothers forgot... quickly.
Even the Times is swinging for Hilary (and putting a disappointingly negative light on Sanders). It's hard to tell what the real problems are - both sides distract us with nonsense... microagressions and smugness, abortion bans and gender panic... while the Arizona election is rigged. Where's the protest parade for that?
The only candidate with believable enthusiasm for what needs doing is Bernie. I'd rather watch the system fall apart quickly under Trump than slowly under Hilary. We notice problems better when we aren't in a slow-simmer pot. Bernie isn't a miracle; he's just got his heart in the right place, and apparently always has. Okay, maybe that takes a miracle.
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same message for 30 years and same result: little!
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I'm pleased Sanders has stuck to his very relevant message for so long. It's refreshing when I consider his opposition has stuck to her message since..... well, yesterday.
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Thanks Bernie! If nothing else you have raised the awareness level of almost everyone.. many people love you.
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Not all of Bernie's fans are young and awake. Some of us are Bernie's age, older and awake, but still very young at heart and still calling for taking back our country. Let's start with the Constitution and the Unpatriot Act.
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It's a good thing Sen. Sanders has been consistent because he was prescient and right. What's remarkable is that now the country's listening.
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When as time goes by, a message becomes even more relevant, urgent and needed, it is spoken with ever more gusto and conviction.
And because this message becomes more relevant as time goes by it tells us all, how LITTLE others have done to alleviate it's growing resonance and fervor.
The fact that Bernie still carries this message shows us one man's consistency and commitment against all those who have none.
The fact it is Bernie's message alone and none other is America's greatest shame and failing of itself to its People.
And because this message becomes more relevant as time goes by it tells us all, how LITTLE others have done to alleviate it's growing resonance and fervor.
The fact that Bernie still carries this message shows us one man's consistency and commitment against all those who have none.
The fact it is Bernie's message alone and none other is America's greatest shame and failing of itself to its People.
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The entire basis of our economic system changed in the early '70's, marked first by disconnecting the dollar from gold standard, which immediately created a ten-fold increase in the value of gold holdings, the vast majority of which where held by the extremely wealthy.
About that time we also reached a point at which we had eliminated almost all natural causes of resource shortages.
The appearance of stagflation in the late '70's should have rung bells with economists, because it matched none of their models. Rather than dealing with it, politicians continued to attempt to implement economic plans based upon the age-old scarcity of resources model, which assumed that all resources were limited.
Having achieved access to space and the technology to generate electricity mechanically in essentially unlimited quantities, all other resource issues become moot. We can recycle everything, our shortages are now all logistical...complicated by the fact that vast amounts of resources have been claimed by a very tiny minority...using money which they have carefully arranged to be in charge of creating, holding and transferring, controlling it all and increasing their own cut of the pie at each transaction.
Inevitably, they used the power to eliminate restrictions upon themselves.
This inequity leads to social collapse. Our election process is supposed to prevent that, perhaps it will. If not, sometime in the next 12 years....flashrevolts.
About that time we also reached a point at which we had eliminated almost all natural causes of resource shortages.
The appearance of stagflation in the late '70's should have rung bells with economists, because it matched none of their models. Rather than dealing with it, politicians continued to attempt to implement economic plans based upon the age-old scarcity of resources model, which assumed that all resources were limited.
Having achieved access to space and the technology to generate electricity mechanically in essentially unlimited quantities, all other resource issues become moot. We can recycle everything, our shortages are now all logistical...complicated by the fact that vast amounts of resources have been claimed by a very tiny minority...using money which they have carefully arranged to be in charge of creating, holding and transferring, controlling it all and increasing their own cut of the pie at each transaction.
Inevitably, they used the power to eliminate restrictions upon themselves.
This inequity leads to social collapse. Our election process is supposed to prevent that, perhaps it will. If not, sometime in the next 12 years....flashrevolts.
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His comments in the early '70s defending the Soviet Union also show his "revolutionary" quality could be termed something else: A Communist Stooge.
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It's galling that people ridicule Sanders for never getting anything accomplished about income inequality. He's a visionary, decades ahead of his time, with the courage to continue to take his message to deaf ears and blank stares because he correctly understands the peril to Democracy that is festering within us.
Remember William Wilberforce. He was a voice crying in the wilderness, too, railing in Parliament about the evil of slavery. Ignored for years, probably laughed off as a wild-eyed dreamer, he lived to see the legislation he dreamed of finally pass. May Bernie have his day, as much for us as for him.
Remember William Wilberforce. He was a voice crying in the wilderness, too, railing in Parliament about the evil of slavery. Ignored for years, probably laughed off as a wild-eyed dreamer, he lived to see the legislation he dreamed of finally pass. May Bernie have his day, as much for us as for him.
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Yes!! William Wilberforce. God rest his soul.
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The beauty of Bernie is that winning the race is actually less important to him than waking people up.
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Keep plugging away Bernie. You have a faithful chorus of people behind you. We believe in you and your message. Hillary had years to make a difference. I still want to hear the contents of the $6000.00 speeches, which were delivered at a time she was catering to monied Wall Streeters. I am certain the contents of those speeches hold great truth as to her political sway.
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So, in Vermont, all the "real" delegate will go to Sanders because Hillary failed to get 15% of the Democratic vote. (He won 86% of the Dem vote in Vermont and won every single Vermont town, all 250 of them.) It will be really interesting to see what the super delegates do. I'm talking to you, Gov. Howard Dean and Sen. Patrick Leahy!
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The super delegates will go to Clinton because she has spent many years raising money for Democrat candidates and supporting them in their campaigns. Meanwhile Sanders has not always even called himself a Democrat and only caucuses with them. Political parties are just that - they are compelled to be democratic; they make their own rules. If you want to have a claim on super delegates you have to spend the time and effort to contribute to the party.
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Senator Sanders may in fact lead the youth of our nation in much the same way the Pied Piper, and lock them in a sea cave, unwilling to vote for a viable candidate, who would be less appealing than such a mystic visionary.
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In the introduction to his new book, Charles Koch uses as an epigraph a quotation taken from Hayek's "Law, Legislation and Liberty," and I want to share it here: "The possibility of men living together in peace and to their mutual advantage, without having to agree on common concrete aims, and bound only by abstract rules of conduct, was perhaps the greatest discovery mankind ever made."
I wish more people understood, and deeply so, what Hayek meant by that; and how much truth there is to it; and how totally antithetical socialism is to that statement. I think we're going to continue to see socialism make headway with those left behind by the 21st-century economy, particularly, as always, the young. And that's dangerous.
I'm not a libertarian like Charles Koch, but I'm interested in how he sees the world. When I disagree with someone, I wanna know why. I'm not interested—at all—in demonizing everyone who disagrees with me, or impugning their motives.
Bernie Sanders, like Charles Koch, is a well-intended person (no, Charles Koch isn't evil, nor is his political philosophy a cover for cupidity) who I happen to disagree with. I find his ideas stale, his wisdom lacking, and what I consider to be his incurious mind off-putting. In some ways Mr. Sanders reminds me of another libertarian, not Charles Koch but Ron Paul. Paul has always seemed to me someone who is so convinced he's right that he's totally uninterested in seriously scrutinizing his dogma, only in expounding it.
I wish more people understood, and deeply so, what Hayek meant by that; and how much truth there is to it; and how totally antithetical socialism is to that statement. I think we're going to continue to see socialism make headway with those left behind by the 21st-century economy, particularly, as always, the young. And that's dangerous.
I'm not a libertarian like Charles Koch, but I'm interested in how he sees the world. When I disagree with someone, I wanna know why. I'm not interested—at all—in demonizing everyone who disagrees with me, or impugning their motives.
Bernie Sanders, like Charles Koch, is a well-intended person (no, Charles Koch isn't evil, nor is his political philosophy a cover for cupidity) who I happen to disagree with. I find his ideas stale, his wisdom lacking, and what I consider to be his incurious mind off-putting. In some ways Mr. Sanders reminds me of another libertarian, not Charles Koch but Ron Paul. Paul has always seemed to me someone who is so convinced he's right that he's totally uninterested in seriously scrutinizing his dogma, only in expounding it.
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Sanders was able to consistently sing the same tune because those in power never take him or his positions seriously. If he has never deviated from his position, its probably because his policy position were not within the range of possible policy outcomes that with compromise would ensure passage of legislation he champions.
Realpolitk requires compromise and consensus building. and policy positions do evolve and should evolve over time if a politician genuinely wants to respond to the need of his or her constituent.
Realpolitk requires compromise and consensus building. and policy positions do evolve and should evolve over time if a politician genuinely wants to respond to the need of his or her constituent.
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In the first week of December, 1969, the week I landed in Long Binh, Vietnam, I was a Nixon Republican.
Eleven and one-half months later, the week before Thanksgiving, 1970, I landed at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport, a Democrat.
And so I have remained for the past 45+ years.
I have nothing but admiration for Bernie Sanders.
Eleven and one-half months later, the week before Thanksgiving, 1970, I landed at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport, a Democrat.
And so I have remained for the past 45+ years.
I have nothing but admiration for Bernie Sanders.
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I grew up with a mother who said constantly "when the revolution comes" - and she acted on these words - through the Vietnam war, through Nixon, through Reagan. The revolution doesn't come. This is America - where the most important piece of legislation of the past 60 years was pushed through by an unelected redneck Texan who knew how to get people to do what he wanted. We elected Ronald Reagan. We elected G. W. Bush at least once despite 9/11 and the disastrous war in Iraq. We do not elect socialists. White Northern liberals and college students are not the electorate. Yes we must compromise, because that's how we move forward. "By little and by little." Actual revolutions are violent and destructive and their leaders usually turn out to be narcissistic megalomaniacs. We have the country we have, the electorate we have. The "revolution" will be a liberal woman as the leader of the free world. It's the best we are going to do right now, and you know, it don't sound so bad to me. Go Hillary.
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Hillary is NOT a "liberal woman."
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One of the "high water marks" was the Bloomberg Poll (March 24th): Sanders 49% Clinton 48%.
I didn't see these poll results in the NYT.
I didn't see these poll results in the NYT.
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We live across Lake Champlain. Vermont is a ferry ride away. Drugs are rampant, theft is rising, the young are leaving, and the elderly have lost interest in Bernie Sanders. Most know what a free lunch stands for. Old timers from Stannard, Vermont, remember him when he came north. The press does not want to look.
Maggie Thatcher said it: socialism is great till you run out of other people's money.
Sanders turns 75 this fall. He is regarded by the successful of Vermont as a joke. The young everywhere would like to believe the cost of education will drop with Bernie. It would not. It would rise. Why? Put more and more government money into anything and the cost will rise.
The FED is Bernie's target. We agree. Lots to look at there. For the same reason. We need the FED, but we do not need what the FED has grown used to doing. Fed FOMC action has numbed markets. Debt and equity markets are extended. Savers are broke. Cheap money flows. This is Sanders heaven. But it will not create jobs. There is no free lunch.
Bernie Sanders is consistently stupid and seductive to those that cannot read history. Vermont is a state that votes rote on name recognition. Sanders beat a sound minded genius, a first time success. Vermont laughs.
Hillary will crush Sanders. She will be crushed emotionally by Trump. Kasich would beat her, but he may not see daylight. And Trump and Cruz are simply crude, cruel, and dangerous.
So, we have to hope that John Kasich rises or Hillary can make it.
Maggie Thatcher said it: socialism is great till you run out of other people's money.
Sanders turns 75 this fall. He is regarded by the successful of Vermont as a joke. The young everywhere would like to believe the cost of education will drop with Bernie. It would not. It would rise. Why? Put more and more government money into anything and the cost will rise.
The FED is Bernie's target. We agree. Lots to look at there. For the same reason. We need the FED, but we do not need what the FED has grown used to doing. Fed FOMC action has numbed markets. Debt and equity markets are extended. Savers are broke. Cheap money flows. This is Sanders heaven. But it will not create jobs. There is no free lunch.
Bernie Sanders is consistently stupid and seductive to those that cannot read history. Vermont is a state that votes rote on name recognition. Sanders beat a sound minded genius, a first time success. Vermont laughs.
Hillary will crush Sanders. She will be crushed emotionally by Trump. Kasich would beat her, but he may not see daylight. And Trump and Cruz are simply crude, cruel, and dangerous.
So, we have to hope that John Kasich rises or Hillary can make it.
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Bernie's consistency is what makes him what he is and will always be. That's Bernie... Period end of story. Bernie is an honest man who has always represented the down trodden the disenfranchised and stood with them & fought for change. Bernie is about uniting this country & bringing us together as a nation. Together we can rebuild this country and make it the envy of the world not just the 1%.
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Why is this happening now? What has caused this giant phenomenal exponential growth, threatening Hillary Clinton? It appeared that it started with college students who are growing more political and engaged. These young people are looking into their futures and see something that we are not. These young people are thinking about how they will cover their costs and be able to live up to the dream that is suppose to be theirs. I can only say that it is this great surge of empathy and youth, dissatisfaction and revolt that has churned stuff up. It feels really good and it aint stopping. Remember "teach your parents well"?
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Another Bernie article, another wave of nearly unanimous positive commentary that shows no sign of coming from an organized effort, just the spontaneous reaction of engaged readers.
We in the Times commentariat are almost certainly a skewed audience, but never have I seen readers' sentiment set so solidly against the editorial grain.
Coverage of Bernie is coming, finally. Too little, but maybe not too late; some big states have yet to vote. The Times may yet see even higher "water marks" for Sanders.
We in the Times commentariat are almost certainly a skewed audience, but never have I seen readers' sentiment set so solidly against the editorial grain.
Coverage of Bernie is coming, finally. Too little, but maybe not too late; some big states have yet to vote. The Times may yet see even higher "water marks" for Sanders.
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Bernie is right. The issues agenda is set by rich and powerful people. Tax cuts subsidies for corporations. Foreign policy lead by companies like Boeing who don't care if the workers lose their jobs so long as they can sell plans to China, wherever they are made. Same for the auto companies. No one changing the outrageous oligopoly pricing of universities who lobby for student loans to rip off families to attend even though they have tax exempt status. Its a big business pig out
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Shocking - the Tomes actually published something accurate and positive about Sanders.
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Have the editors at the NYTimes read "Dark Money" by Jane Mayer? If EVER there was a time for Mr. Sanders' and his consistent message, it is NOW.
The Koch brothers and their wealthy conspirators are plotting in secret and are dismantling the democracy we all cherish and want to keep.
Senator Sanders' consistency and honesty is what we democrats most love about him. Bernie is a sorely needed breath of fresh air in a room filled with political smoke screens, candidates that change their message with the wind, and billionaire conspirators plotting in secret to kill democracy.
Give me Senator Sanders any day and over any other candidate. Bernie Sanders IS the FDR of the new century.
As for the NYTimes, don't you ever get tired of publishing hit pieces against Senator Sanders?
The Koch brothers and their wealthy conspirators are plotting in secret and are dismantling the democracy we all cherish and want to keep.
Senator Sanders' consistency and honesty is what we democrats most love about him. Bernie is a sorely needed breath of fresh air in a room filled with political smoke screens, candidates that change their message with the wind, and billionaire conspirators plotting in secret to kill democracy.
Give me Senator Sanders any day and over any other candidate. Bernie Sanders IS the FDR of the new century.
As for the NYTimes, don't you ever get tired of publishing hit pieces against Senator Sanders?
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Senator Sanders has been in public life as an elected official for well over three decades. This seems more than enough time to make a 'revolution'. The fact that we haven't had one is a problem with the salience of the message - to what degree are the wealthiest 0.1% actually controlling us - or the messenger, or both.
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Thank you for elaborating on what makes Sanders appealing to voters of ALL ages (and races and genders).
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I remember someone in some context lamenting, almost in song, about "where had all the hippies gone?” The reply I remember: They are all in Vermont, driving Volvos.
Someone who stays on course is admirable, and when nations stay true to their founding ideals, that is awesome. So I admire Sanders for that, and I’ll add that that is a very New England thing to do. People here don’t just not change, they're stubborn about it, proud of their rusted hand-me-down tractors (1984, I think, for the one at our farm) or boats or whatever. So I also get that. But there’s another piece of this that might not be so great. When working with beginning teachers, we share an old adage: A person can have one year of teaching 30 times, or 30 years of teaching. Which one is Sanders, then?
Someone who stays on course is admirable, and when nations stay true to their founding ideals, that is awesome. So I admire Sanders for that, and I’ll add that that is a very New England thing to do. People here don’t just not change, they're stubborn about it, proud of their rusted hand-me-down tractors (1984, I think, for the one at our farm) or boats or whatever. So I also get that. But there’s another piece of this that might not be so great. When working with beginning teachers, we share an old adage: A person can have one year of teaching 30 times, or 30 years of teaching. Which one is Sanders, then?
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Both , and he's been doing that!!
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If viewed through the lens of Issiah Berlin's essay, "The Hedgehog and the Fox," Bernie Sanders is a hedgehog, while Hillary Clinton is a fox.
Bernie focuses on one idea and like a hedgehog, seems blissfully unaware of the larger world that is separate from those issues. It's "bankers this, bankers that" pretty much ad infinitum.
Hillary is fox because her world view is expansive, she's free range in the sense that she doesn't adhere to a single defining idea.
The democratic party needed Bernie's clarity and focus on what needed to be changed so that our society would be more equal, raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans and making sure that everyone payed their fair share.
But for someone to be an effective president, they need a wide angle lens. They need to be able to be flexible and to compromise when the occasion arises. Bernie is a good man but he probably wouldn't make a very good president.
Bernie focuses on one idea and like a hedgehog, seems blissfully unaware of the larger world that is separate from those issues. It's "bankers this, bankers that" pretty much ad infinitum.
Hillary is fox because her world view is expansive, she's free range in the sense that she doesn't adhere to a single defining idea.
The democratic party needed Bernie's clarity and focus on what needed to be changed so that our society would be more equal, raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans and making sure that everyone payed their fair share.
But for someone to be an effective president, they need a wide angle lens. They need to be able to be flexible and to compromise when the occasion arises. Bernie is a good man but he probably wouldn't make a very good president.
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It's not the politicians who hold power, it's the lobbies- at least that's what I always thought. The NRA has 5 million members and they dictate every move the GOP makes. AARP has close to 40 million members and we still can't have a national healthcare plan - Do senior citizens think they would lose their socialized medicine in exchange for socialized medicine? Can somebody explain this..?
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I consider myself an admirer of Bernie Sanders, yes a democratic socialist. If he were to become the next president of US, I would be thrilled to bits.
In spite of his surge all across the country, I never thought he would win in November. In between I fantasized of Bernie occupying the WH at least for one term, even if he couldn't achieve much in America.
In addition to his popular image as a "socialist" who advocated a (political) "revolution" (I do have an aversion to revolution) and raising taxes to 90%, he did not propose any revolutionary measures & suggested a far, far lower top rate of 52%, that too on over $10M, people go for sound bites, stuck on 4 phrases, 90% tax, socialist/democratic REVOLUTION, Medicare for all & Free college for ALL!
I wish he had clearly and repeatedly explained his positions on taxes, universal healthcare & college education help. I would have suggested and stressed more pre-K education starting at age 3, even earlier, eventually. But it's not possible to alter his messages effectively until after, if he wins the nomination.
In spite of his surge all across the country, I never thought he would win in November. In between I fantasized of Bernie occupying the WH at least for one term, even if he couldn't achieve much in America.
In addition to his popular image as a "socialist" who advocated a (political) "revolution" (I do have an aversion to revolution) and raising taxes to 90%, he did not propose any revolutionary measures & suggested a far, far lower top rate of 52%, that too on over $10M, people go for sound bites, stuck on 4 phrases, 90% tax, socialist/democratic REVOLUTION, Medicare for all & Free college for ALL!
I wish he had clearly and repeatedly explained his positions on taxes, universal healthcare & college education help. I would have suggested and stressed more pre-K education starting at age 3, even earlier, eventually. But it's not possible to alter his messages effectively until after, if he wins the nomination.
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If I could add, my suggestion for marginal rates is: Bring BACK Clinton era rates for the top 10% of the household incomes; 50% rate on the top 0.1% of household incomes & either as a surcharge, or preferably as a regular marginal rate of 70% on the top 0.01% in incomes.
There would be enough revenue with these minimal changes in taxes to fight ISIS/Daesh, for repairing & improving crumbling infrastructures, for pre-K education & expand Obamacare to include almost all legal residents of the US.
I would also suggest to reduce payroll tax to 1% on first $10K & to 2% on the second $!0K. Lift the cap at least to account for the payroll tax reduction on the low income folks & to compensate for a small tax increase on the top 10%.
There would be enough revenue with these minimal changes in taxes to fight ISIS/Daesh, for repairing & improving crumbling infrastructures, for pre-K education & expand Obamacare to include almost all legal residents of the US.
I would also suggest to reduce payroll tax to 1% on first $10K & to 2% on the second $!0K. Lift the cap at least to account for the payroll tax reduction on the low income folks & to compensate for a small tax increase on the top 10%.
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Because he has presented the same message for forty years does not make it a bad message.
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Things are really looking grim to me guys. The way I perceive it (with bleed over in some categories), around 15-20% of the voting public is either Fascist/racist/sexist or cool with it (which makes you complicit in my book). Another 15% or so are down with a Theocracy. 30%-ish don’t seem to support Democracy (Gerrymandering/Voter Suppression). And I’d estimate a whopping 55-70% will tolerate Corporate Oligarchy. Scary. Sad and scary and embarrassing. Bernie Sanders is an oasis in the desert my friends.
As for Oligarchy (rule by an elite few), I feel that we might as well just bring back the monarchy. Instead of Dukes and Earls we have the 1%, buts it’s practically the same thing. Oligarchy is Tyranny, and we threw that yoke off once before. Don’t be a Tory! Be a Revolutionary!
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more, if only they knew they were slaves."- Harriet Tubman
As for Oligarchy (rule by an elite few), I feel that we might as well just bring back the monarchy. Instead of Dukes and Earls we have the 1%, buts it’s practically the same thing. Oligarchy is Tyranny, and we threw that yoke off once before. Don’t be a Tory! Be a Revolutionary!
"I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more, if only they knew they were slaves."- Harriet Tubman
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Tubman's quote applies to today's Fox New crowd, Fox being the GOP lie and deny news. If these fox followers don't wake up, we will be under tyranny. It's already started. Look at the red states passing legislation that defies federal law and local laws, taking authority away from everyone but the GOP gangster elite. Their laws do not allow local laws to raise the minimum wage, bring certain law suits, deny birth control, sex education and the benefits of planned parenthood all because evangelicals caused righteous envy in righteous catholics who think its their mission to deny women their rights. If you read the real news you will be frightened by the cloud of fascism coming over our country. This has nothing to do with immigrants, it has to do with the GOP congress who pledged themselves to the Kochs and energy industry to deny climate change and any regulations that would cause the Kochs and their pals any money. These are the facts. Read Dark Money. Shut the TV. Get to the library. Read The Guardian, The Economist, other countries that see the disaster the GOP is bringing to democracy. If you are too lazy to stop being force fed by fox, you will be cursed by generations for throwing democracy under the bus. And this means those in the so-called "Greatest Generation" who go the most benefit from the federal government and now don't want any benefits for others who fought other wars.
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I think the quote also applies to Oligarchy. Comparing it to a modern form of nobility is, I believe, apt. Debt-slavery is still a form of slavery. I, for one, have no interest in Serfdom. I am of the opinion moderate Republicans and Democrats (Centrists) are the primary enablers of our current Corporate Oligarchy. My view of Centrists in regards to Oligarchy is similar to MLK, Jr.'s of white moderates in regard to Civil Rights. Martin Luther King, Jr. said it best in his 'Letter from a Birmingham Jail',
"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
"I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
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When I first started going to my accountant about 25 years ago he was a staunch Republican. Two days ago he told me he donated $100 to Bernie's campaign. He's a smart man who gradually has learned how rigged our system is, and now is firmly in Bernie's camp. Bernie has been saying the same thing for a long time, but now the country is ready for him.
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Accountants, more than most people, know how the system is stacked because they see people's financial reports and help them file their taxes every year.
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@ehgnyc
Either your accountant has suddenly had a conversion to socialism or more likely
I bet he, like most Republicans, is thinking it would be helpful if the Democrats would nominate someone who is on record praising Fidel Castro as who ever wins the Presidency will need to carry Florida and one sure way to lose Florida as a candidate is to be on record in support of ol' Fidel!
I wonder if Bernie did somehow get the nomination how many "attack ads" the Republicans would run in Florida on just the "praising of Fidel" issue alone?
Either your accountant has suddenly had a conversion to socialism or more likely
I bet he, like most Republicans, is thinking it would be helpful if the Democrats would nominate someone who is on record praising Fidel Castro as who ever wins the Presidency will need to carry Florida and one sure way to lose Florida as a candidate is to be on record in support of ol' Fidel!
I wonder if Bernie did somehow get the nomination how many "attack ads" the Republicans would run in Florida on just the "praising of Fidel" issue alone?
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Yes, I think I recently read something about those nefarious, scheming, Republican accountants and their devious ways of influencing us to support the wrong Democratic candidate.... (you know, you just can't go anywhere these days without tripping over another one of those right-wing conspiracies).
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Hillary is a compulsive prevaricator but Bernie Sander's lack of honesty is much more insidious. His control begins -out of sight- into a deep collective vat which parents willingly surrender children, their minds and their attitudes every single day by attending compulsory education. Later the product is reinforced by expert ("I need some muscle over here.") propagandists parading as philosophical mentors. I this respect a more systematic lie cannot be told.
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What are you talking about?
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Bernie is an anachronism on an ego trip in love with the sound of his own voice, his ideas are museum relics of the 60s. Yo Bernie the 60s are over, dead and buried. To remind what the 60s begat -the 70s; unemployment doubled, inflation went over 13%, we had a secular bear market, the Dow was 1,000 in 1966 and 800 and change in 1982 and let us not forget how the 70s ended -the Iranian hostage crises. No thanks -go back to 93% white Vermont and sit in your Adirondack chair on the back porch gazing at sunsets, there is no free lunch, oh yeah the rich will pay for all the freebies you want hand out, how long do you think they will hang around when they have the means to go elsewhere?
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Being right never goes out of style.
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So many people comment about Bernie and call him all manner of belittling names. They point that he has always stood alone and paint him as a solitary crackpot. They claim he doesn't understand how to be "practical."
The truth is, Sanders has stood alone because those in government who should stand with him are cowards, and they use "practical" as an excuse for that cowardice. Sanders has always stood facing the power structure in support of the working man. He reminds me of the Chinese man facing the tanks in Tiananmen Square. No match for a tank when you're alone--no matter how brave you are. However, now he is not alone.
The truth is, Sanders has stood alone because those in government who should stand with him are cowards, and they use "practical" as an excuse for that cowardice. Sanders has always stood facing the power structure in support of the working man. He reminds me of the Chinese man facing the tanks in Tiananmen Square. No match for a tank when you're alone--no matter how brave you are. However, now he is not alone.
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My very liberal Senators from the land of Mondale (also an HRC supporter) think he is ineffective. That should tell you something!
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He's going to win. He's going to be president. He is writing his inaugural address. No matter what the Times and the rest of the corporate media say. We're going to vote him in.
Get ready. It's going to be the greatest upset in political history. Bernie Sanders is going to be President of the Unitrd States.
Get ready. It's going to be the greatest upset in political history. Bernie Sanders is going to be President of the Unitrd States.
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Goodness might come to us who hope for the best, I hope you are correct.
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@Ignatz Farquad
Wow, your belief in Bernie is cute but it is seriously not grounded in reality.
Bernie will never win the primary and he will never be president. Hillary is the only true Democrat in this race and the only one who can beat Trump or Cruz or whomever the fascist Republicans put forward.
I suggest you get real and get ready to vote for Hillary because your guy ain't getting anywhere near the White House.
Wow, your belief in Bernie is cute but it is seriously not grounded in reality.
Bernie will never win the primary and he will never be president. Hillary is the only true Democrat in this race and the only one who can beat Trump or Cruz or whomever the fascist Republicans put forward.
I suggest you get real and get ready to vote for Hillary because your guy ain't getting anywhere near the White House.
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@will w
Sorry, buddy, it's never going to happen. Get used to it. Hillary is the only true Democrat and the only one who can beat Trump.
Sorry, buddy, it's never going to happen. Get used to it. Hillary is the only true Democrat and the only one who can beat Trump.
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Apparent odd contradiction: the one candidate who stands for change is the one who has changed hardly at all since he started out three decades ago. Resolution: Oh, you mean the candidate whose campaign is based on an idea even older than that: All Men and Women Are Created Equal. Rather than, say, the one and only notion driving his competitor: "It's my turn."
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Reading this one can assume that Senator Sanders is running against the New York Times. But the fact that the paper is generated from the hub and home of unmitigated greed permits the reader to understand why the moneyed few want to denigrate the credibility of an honest man.
Perhaps the reason that he keeps on saying the same thing is that he learned the facts about America at a very young age, and he hasn't changed because they haven't either.
It's up to all Americans to choose to change it or not through their electoral process, the mechanism installed in the constitution for regular revolutions in our country.
Perhaps the reason that he keeps on saying the same thing is that he learned the facts about America at a very young age, and he hasn't changed because they haven't either.
It's up to all Americans to choose to change it or not through their electoral process, the mechanism installed in the constitution for regular revolutions in our country.
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How is it to his detriment that he has a consistent political philosophy? So it has taken him a while, but this year he has found a way to make people hear him and has convinced a significant proportion of the democratic voters. This makes him tenacious, not ineffective. And now he seeks the Presidency and control of the Democratic Party to amplify his message. Sounds like a pretty good play to me.
And his message?
Perhaps if he says it often enough, People will actually listen.
And hear a man with earnest passion for bringing the fruits of this country to all its citizens - who else this year can boast this goal?
And his message?
Perhaps if he says it often enough, People will actually listen.
And hear a man with earnest passion for bringing the fruits of this country to all its citizens - who else this year can boast this goal?
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AND Bernie will be good in foreign policy too because he knows that Wall Street lobbyists also impact US relations with other countries in which we have intervened and supported corrupt governments to protect US investments in many countries.
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Although I'm 10 years younger, I grew up in the Bronx around the same time that Senator Sanders grew up in Brooklyn. The city was a rough place during those years. Everyone had their mugging story, and neighborhoods were completely segregated. Hispanics, white kids and black kids each had their blocks. White flight ensued, creating even more inequity in jobs, housing, schools. We were ignorant of our own racial blind spots. A lot of white hippies headed for the further northeast and I suppose Bernie was among them. Some of us stayed in the city for a longer time, because Vermont seemed for rich white kids. I thought of kids like Bernie the same way he thinks of the "billionaires." I felt lucky to be near so much opportunity. My friends and I pursued good paying jobs in Manhattan working for the 1% and commuted daily on the subway. We fought for equal pay, family leave, affirmative action. We got robbed on the subway, molested in the parks, and suffered through blackouts, transit and garbage strikes. Some of us learned that acceptance, tolerance, and persistence develop resilience. We learned to appreciate change that comes in increments and that revolution is a reckless and luxurious word and concept because it infers that positive change happens overnight. It doesn't. You have to stick around and work through the parts that feel like quicksand until they soften. Maybe Bernie resents the windfall in his old hood. Maybe he should have worked through the hard parts.
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You're not getting the thrust of what he means by "revolution", clear out your head gear!
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I beg to differ. Analytical skills are intact. I don't think he is any kind of solution. Period.
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Bernie left NYC to be educated in Chicago. Not only that, he was a leader in the civil rights campaign on his campus. He was arrested for it. There are pictures of him being dragged by policemen.
That totally contradicts your assertion that he left for greener pastures.
That totally contradicts your assertion that he left for greener pastures.
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The problem with Bernie Sanders is that much of his message is true and, more to the point, people don't like that truth because it undercuts much of what made American what it is today (good and bad): capitalism*
(*Of course, what we have today is unregulated and fairly unrestricted capitalism, which is much of the problem.)
Socialism per se will never reign in the good ole USA, and no one really wants it to do so (theoretically, pure socialism cannot exist, by the way...meditate on that), but when there are people working a hard 40 hour work week -- just as hard as most anyone else working those same hours for 20x ++ pay -- yet those 'dead end' jobs, truly necessary to the efficient and safe functioning of the country, are considered Less Than some fat cat banker or lawyer or CEO, well, drastic measures are in order.
Personally, I almost hope Trump does get elected. He should be the worst thing every for the USA, and honestly, we deserve it. So blind, so arrogant, so amazingly self-centered and delusional to even consider a level taxation -- the only means there is to combat overvaluation of certain jobs and their hyper-inflationary wages -- because gosh darn it, you too might become a billionaire!
Right. Good luck with that.
Vote Sanders. It's really the only sane thing to do.
(*Of course, what we have today is unregulated and fairly unrestricted capitalism, which is much of the problem.)
Socialism per se will never reign in the good ole USA, and no one really wants it to do so (theoretically, pure socialism cannot exist, by the way...meditate on that), but when there are people working a hard 40 hour work week -- just as hard as most anyone else working those same hours for 20x ++ pay -- yet those 'dead end' jobs, truly necessary to the efficient and safe functioning of the country, are considered Less Than some fat cat banker or lawyer or CEO, well, drastic measures are in order.
Personally, I almost hope Trump does get elected. He should be the worst thing every for the USA, and honestly, we deserve it. So blind, so arrogant, so amazingly self-centered and delusional to even consider a level taxation -- the only means there is to combat overvaluation of certain jobs and their hyper-inflationary wages -- because gosh darn it, you too might become a billionaire!
Right. Good luck with that.
Vote Sanders. It's really the only sane thing to do.
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americans have no idea how many socialist organizations there are in th usa, which arent labeled such
fire and police, libraries and schools, roads, dams, bridges and tunnels, social security, th VA, medicare, th usa military are ALL organisations which use th pooled resources of th populace for th general good
fire and police, libraries and schools, roads, dams, bridges and tunnels, social security, th VA, medicare, th usa military are ALL organisations which use th pooled resources of th populace for th general good
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For the first time in over 50 years I'm thinking of voting for a Democrat rather than the Republican candidate. Only if the Dems run Sanders. This nation has to figure out how our less fortunate citizens can earn a decent living. Capitalism has one very serious flaw: it cannot employ all those who need to earn a living. But the rewards of Capitalism are necessary to motivate continuing progress. Sanders can point us in the right direction, but Cogress must legislate the tax policies necessary to pay decent wages to all citizens entrepreneurs don't need to work their capitalistic magic. That's not socialism; it's the solution to America's economic success.
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Oh, sacrilege!
That's the usual response or something like it until the person you are trying to gently reason with realizes that he/she really has no idea about things. And then he/she just calls you names or pulls a Republican move, like, "oh, I paid that SS money; I've earned it!"
Er, not really...?? (Sigh.)
The ignorance is astounding. Apparently, we do need to work a bit ("bit") on the K-12 system, hmm?
That's the usual response or something like it until the person you are trying to gently reason with realizes that he/she really has no idea about things. And then he/she just calls you names or pulls a Republican move, like, "oh, I paid that SS money; I've earned it!"
Er, not really...?? (Sigh.)
The ignorance is astounding. Apparently, we do need to work a bit ("bit") on the K-12 system, hmm?
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Dubbed the ‘amendment king,’ Mr. Sanders passed more amendments than any other member of Congress during his 16 years in the House of Representatives—despite Republicans holding a majority between 1994 and 2006. He kicked off his political career with an amendment to start a National Program of Cancer registries, which is now maintained by all 50 states. In 2001, he successfully passed an amendment to the general appropriations bill which banned the importation of goods made with child labor, and passed an amendment to increase funding by $100 million for community health centers.
“During this time, Sanders took on powerful adversaries, including Lockheed Martin, Westinghouse, the Export-Import Bank, and the Bush Administration,” wrote Matt Taibbi in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. “And by using the basic tools of democracy-floor votes on clearly posed questions, with the aid of painstakingly built coalitions of allies from both sides of the aisle-he, a lone Independent, beat them all.”
http://observer.com/2016/03/how-bernie-gets-things-done-in-congress-with...
“During this time, Sanders took on powerful adversaries, including Lockheed Martin, Westinghouse, the Export-Import Bank, and the Bush Administration,” wrote Matt Taibbi in a 2005 Rolling Stone article. “And by using the basic tools of democracy-floor votes on clearly posed questions, with the aid of painstakingly built coalitions of allies from both sides of the aisle-he, a lone Independent, beat them all.”
http://observer.com/2016/03/how-bernie-gets-things-done-in-congress-with...
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Thanks for the link. A wholly different perspective than you [will ever] find here at the NYTimes.
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Wow! Coverage of Senator Bernie Sanders in the NY Times? What happened? Glad to see you've finally caught up with the millions of Americans who have been supporting him and voting for him for months.
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Hillary Clinton has now stolen Bernie Sanders platform because she knows he is correct. But she blows with the wind anyway saying what she thinks people want to hear. She is more interested in getting herself elected than she is in the country. If we remember she tried to provide a healthcare bill early on in her husbands presidency and was quickly snuffed out, of course she has more experience now but she also has a ton of baggage from Bill Clintons presidency but she is not going to be able to sweep that under the rug. I think the most important problem for her is the lack of trust she instils. She also looks and sounds angry and probably is because she thought it was to be a cakewalk to the nomination and now Bernie Sanders is a thorn in her side. It is unfortunate that Bernie does not get listen too by the older folks, the younger ones get it. Take a look at the Scandinavian countries with social democracy; free health care, education, jobs, maternity/paternity leave, no wars all over the world and the people are happy. If Clinton gets elected nothing will change we will be further behind in development of a healthy country.
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It "berns" me up (pun intended!) that people think that "Bernie does not get listen too [sic] by the older folks..." On the other hand, at 57 years of age, I suppose it should make me feel good that I am not considered old! I am an ardent Bernie supporter and will not vote for Hillary Clinton if she is the unDemocratic Party nominee. Sure I've been asked, "even if Donald Trump is the Republican nominee?" Honestly I think Cruz is more dangerous.
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I'm 59, and right there with you (including your assessment of Trump and Cruz).
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New Hampshire was the "high water mark" of Sanders' candidacy? No, it wasn't. Sanders won 60.4% of the New Hampshire vote to Clinton's 38.0%. That was good, yes. But he won 78.1% of the Idaho vote and 79.3% of the Utah vote just 3 days ago!
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Best example of doing the wrong thing for the right reason.
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Forty years of consistency from Sanders but also 40 years of consistency from mainstream Americans, who have said "No" to Socialism.
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Right! No to Medicare, No to Medicaid, No to Social Security, No to minimum-wage laws, No to Earned Income Tax Credit...
You use that word, "No"...I do not think it means what you think it means.
You use that word, "No"...I do not think it means what you think it means.
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Yeah and we're doing so great with the country run by billionaires.
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Yes, Bernie has been consistent with his message.
But the problem still exists, and is even worse than it was in his youth.
Regardless of how the party nomination shakes out, Mr. Sanders will have changed the rhetoric, and very likely the party's focus in their general election efforts. With luck, he and Hillary will prevail, the GOP will implode, and the balance of power in the senate will shift to the democrats, giving us a functional Congress, once again.
But the problem still exists, and is even worse than it was in his youth.
Regardless of how the party nomination shakes out, Mr. Sanders will have changed the rhetoric, and very likely the party's focus in their general election efforts. With luck, he and Hillary will prevail, the GOP will implode, and the balance of power in the senate will shift to the democrats, giving us a functional Congress, once again.
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We should not get caught in a whiteout of hubris assuming the GOP is going to explode. The weirdness of the possibility that that may not happen, though, may lead the left and center to be caught off guard if Cruz, for example actually snatches a victory from the jaws of defeat.
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Yep Bernie is on point. No he doesn't flip flop on issues or pander to the listener. No he is not a socialist. He is a democratic socialist. Big difference. FDR was a social democrat. Socialist as in social programs like Medicare, Social Security, Infrastructure, the military. He essentially has a middle of the road european democratic perspective. He is a stand for re-building our crumbling infrastructure, being a leader in the next wave of energy tech and the opportunities and jobs that will create.
Because he's not bought and paid for he has the chutzpah to stand up against corporate welfare, demand a living wage, stand up against the energy companies, continue his quest for 1 person / 1 vote. Bernie consistently was able to reach across the aisle and get bills passed. Sounds far better than a bought and paid for politician. Hillary directly represented Monsanto, was paid by JPMC, sat on the board of Walmart, has only 34% of the US that trusts her (because she has constantly lied and flip flopped.) What has she actually accomplished in her 8 years as senator (3 bills to rename a postoffice, etc.) A moving speech that we should go to war in Iraq because of WMD. What did she accomplish as Secretary of State? A botched Libya, terrible relations with Israel, Afghanistan, etc. She has much lower polling numbers against Trump and there's enough ammo for him to eat her for lunch. Bernie is a once in a lifetime candidate. May the best candidate beat Trump.
Because he's not bought and paid for he has the chutzpah to stand up against corporate welfare, demand a living wage, stand up against the energy companies, continue his quest for 1 person / 1 vote. Bernie consistently was able to reach across the aisle and get bills passed. Sounds far better than a bought and paid for politician. Hillary directly represented Monsanto, was paid by JPMC, sat on the board of Walmart, has only 34% of the US that trusts her (because she has constantly lied and flip flopped.) What has she actually accomplished in her 8 years as senator (3 bills to rename a postoffice, etc.) A moving speech that we should go to war in Iraq because of WMD. What did she accomplish as Secretary of State? A botched Libya, terrible relations with Israel, Afghanistan, etc. She has much lower polling numbers against Trump and there's enough ammo for him to eat her for lunch. Bernie is a once in a lifetime candidate. May the best candidate beat Trump.
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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
-- Winston Churchill
-- Winston Churchill
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I'm surprised by this comment. Sanders advocates DEMOCRATIC socialism. Let's get things straight, you'd like to call him a Communist.
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Stanton ** Another one with the Winston quote .... The U.K. has many of the positions advocated by Mr Sanders, like nationalized health care.
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Mr. Churchill was speaking against the USSR brand of "socialism". Which was not socialism to begin with.
Mr. Sanders is a Nordic Model Democrat.
Mr. Sanders is a Nordic Model Democrat.
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I'll believe in Bernie's revolution when I see it start to defeat Republicans. Right now it looks like, at most, a Tea Party of the left, which can punish people for being too moderate even at the cost of losing the seat to a Republican. I really don't think having more extreme Democratic Party to match the extreme Republican Party is going to be helpful.
There's also the fact that, even now, at the period of maximum revolutionary spirit, turnout hasn't been that great.
I might feel differently if Bernie actually had a coherent plan for campaign finance reform.
There's also the fact that, even now, at the period of maximum revolutionary spirit, turnout hasn't been that great.
I might feel differently if Bernie actually had a coherent plan for campaign finance reform.
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@Howard
You're exactly right. And, hopefully, some very foolish or naive Bernie supporters come to realize this.
You're exactly right. And, hopefully, some very foolish or naive Bernie supporters come to realize this.
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I've always thought -- and you can quote me -- that consistency was the hobgoblin of small minds.
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Actually, that would be "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." I believe "foolish" is the key word in that sentence.
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Bernie Sanders spews the same socialist rhetoric that has proven time and again, as Winston Churchill said, to be the philosophy of failure.
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Fascinating opinion, since what he is preaching is Nordic Social Democracy. Last I looked these were stable, prosperous, forward looking, happy societies that were great for business. I always wonder if people like Chris actually listen to anything he's saying.
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Chris O *** Gee that's interesting since the U.K. has many of the ideas pushed by Mr Sanders as laws , like nationalized health care.
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Memo to Sen. Sanders:
There are more things in heaven and earth, Bernie, than are dreamt of in “Das Kapital.” Capitalism is one of them.
--- With apologies to Shakespeare, Hamlet, Horatio and Karl Marx.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Bernie, than are dreamt of in “Das Kapital.” Capitalism is one of them.
--- With apologies to Shakespeare, Hamlet, Horatio and Karl Marx.
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...and there are many more things to Socialism, and to Leftism in general, than Marx ever imagined.
I never took you for a doctrinaire Communist, Stanton. Did not see it coming.
I never took you for a doctrinaire Communist, Stanton. Did not see it coming.
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And apologies to common sense, too. There is nothing Marxist about what Sanders has advocated.
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I 100% believe in Sanders' core message. And I hope Hillary Clinton feels the Bern, or at least the threat of a lefty revolt if she doesn't act like she does, because she's much more qualified to be president.
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Much more qualified in what way? Since I may have to vote for her, I'd truly like to know. She has been on the wrong side of history for income inequality, job growth, Gay marriage rights, Iraq war and Libya. She's flipped over to Bernie's policies to increase her votes. She takes money from the corporations which line their pockets with whatever wealth is left from the middle-class. As a Democrat, I'd like for my candidate to WANT to be transparent with me about her speeches to Wall Street, which decimated the American economy and destroyed millions and millions of lives.
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Stella - And she is still more qualified. Look at Sanders voting record - GM/bank bailout; import/export bank; the Kennedy immigration reform bill. Sanders is a philosophical purist. In each case he voted against the greater good of the country because there were things in the bill contrary to his philosophy. Yes, he was true to his principles. Yes he has integrity. But you can't be a purist and be a good President. You have to be pragmatic. You have to be willing to compromise for the greater good of the country. Sanders has a great message, but he hasn't shown he has the requisite pragmatism.
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If he's still singing the same song and nothing has changed, it sounds like an argument for saying that he's been pretty ineffective in achieving his goals.
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It's an argument that no one has been listening to. It took a Princeton study on the loss of democracy in the US and the research by economist, Thomas Picketty, to open our eyes to what Bernie has been saying all along.
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Did you ever vote for a Congressperson or Senator who would work with him to achieve them?
Should Bernie have compromised his values to serve those of your chosen representative? What would you call him then?
Should Bernie have compromised his values to serve those of your chosen representative? What would you call him then?
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@ Ted Pikul: '...What would you call him then?...'
A failed politician.
A failed politician.
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There still are states to vote, NYT.
California and presently Washington have overflow crowds cheering Sanders' "dictum".
Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone on why the kids aren't wrong nails it. HRC isn't even aware how much an insider she is, how it comes across. Leaving out her sounding like Bibi in front of AIPAC the other day.
Sanders is credible b/c he's telling the truth. He knows war is not the answer (and does not profit from more of it).
Trump's supporters say his big draw, he "tells it like it is", relishing some truth telling from a Republican.
If we want to beat Trump, who has massacred the GOP, we need Sanders.
I don't hate Hillary but don't think she's right for these times, when we don't need a shape shifter & esp do not need a neocon as president.
BTW my views from 50 yrs ago have not changed re civil rights, war, our military adventurism's effects. Core values don't change. That Bernie's managed to keep them while in politics is heroic.
California and presently Washington have overflow crowds cheering Sanders' "dictum".
Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone on why the kids aren't wrong nails it. HRC isn't even aware how much an insider she is, how it comes across. Leaving out her sounding like Bibi in front of AIPAC the other day.
Sanders is credible b/c he's telling the truth. He knows war is not the answer (and does not profit from more of it).
Trump's supporters say his big draw, he "tells it like it is", relishing some truth telling from a Republican.
If we want to beat Trump, who has massacred the GOP, we need Sanders.
I don't hate Hillary but don't think she's right for these times, when we don't need a shape shifter & esp do not need a neocon as president.
BTW my views from 50 yrs ago have not changed re civil rights, war, our military adventurism's effects. Core values don't change. That Bernie's managed to keep them while in politics is heroic.
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You work hard to make Sanders sound like a crank for singing the same song all these years, but the fact is he was a prophet.
He saw the core problem in the system 40 years ago, and he has continued to point it out despite the rising and falling of one fashionable political trend after another. He diagnosed our disease in its early stages, before most of us had realized we were sick.
He's like a doctor whose proposed treatment we didn't like, so we got a second opinion. And a third. And a fourth. We tried everything else, from hypnosis to homeopathy, hoping to avoid the surgery that first doctor said we needed. Now, at last, many of us are ready to stop the nonsense and admit that Doctor #1 was right all along.
We're much sicker now than we were when Sanders first started telling us what needed to be done. But maybe we can still be saved.
He saw the core problem in the system 40 years ago, and he has continued to point it out despite the rising and falling of one fashionable political trend after another. He diagnosed our disease in its early stages, before most of us had realized we were sick.
He's like a doctor whose proposed treatment we didn't like, so we got a second opinion. And a third. And a fourth. We tried everything else, from hypnosis to homeopathy, hoping to avoid the surgery that first doctor said we needed. Now, at last, many of us are ready to stop the nonsense and admit that Doctor #1 was right all along.
We're much sicker now than we were when Sanders first started telling us what needed to be done. But maybe we can still be saved.
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Bernie Sanders is a good man, but encouraging millions of his youthful followers to believe that socialist-style
revolutionary change is needed or possible here is a very bad idea for them and the country. Every vote for Bernie is ultimately ten votes for Donald.
revolutionary change is needed or possible here is a very bad idea for them and the country. Every vote for Bernie is ultimately ten votes for Donald.
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The Dems only justification to vote for Clinton is that the Republicans are all worse (Trump, Cruz, et al). Pretty lousy motivator. The lessor of two evils is still evil. And the more I hear Clinton speak, the more evil she convinces me she is, either through her AIPAC bomb, bomb, bomb Iran Netanyahu fangirl spiel, or her lies and distortions about Sanders' platform. Her "where was Sanders when I was working for universal health care" was the prize, when the video emerged of him standing right behind her, and she thanking him for all his support. I doubt that she was even embarrassed. No ethics, no conscience, no vote.
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Although,the polls consistently show the opposite. Bernie beats Trump by higher percentages than Clinton. Therefore, if one extrapolates from your math, then a vote for Clinton is 20 votes for Trump.
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Given the hatred of Trump and his followers, there may be some who are fearful of telling pollsters the truth about whom they will vote for.
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40 years of singing the same tune and never had any plan to achieve it and still doesn't. He's the wizard of oz, the emperor without clothes, the pied piper. Presidential material he's not.
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You forgot the Music Man. Reading a specific argument against Bernie's policies, is as rare as spotting a white rhino.
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Mr. Sanders is now facing a speeding bus in the form of Mrs. Clinton’s formidable delegate advantage ....and the big money donors that back her business as usual campaign.
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Sander's is a one trick pony. Never advanced his cause, accomplished zero, and is trying to take down Clinton...to what end? To have a Trump or Cruz presidency? Sander's will not win a national election, because people will want specifics, and his don't add up.
If he does not step down, the tragedy that will follow will sit firmly on his shoulders.
If he does not step down, the tragedy that will follow will sit firmly on his shoulders.
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In all national polls, including this one by CNN, Bernie handily beats Trump or other GOP - by a larger margin than Hillary.
If Democrats want to beat Trump we need to reach forward with Bernie and Leave Hillary in the past. She is more useful as a philanthropic private citizen now.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bern...
If Democrats want to beat Trump we need to reach forward with Bernie and Leave Hillary in the past. She is more useful as a philanthropic private citizen now.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bern...
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And like Ralph Nader, who has spent his life actually benefiting the citizens of this country, rather than sponging off of them, if Sanders exercises his right to be a candidate until the end, and Clinton loses, the Dems will be whining for another 50 years, as they have about Nader for almost 16 years. It's the candidates fault (and their organization) if they lose, not the voters. And that is one reason among many, why the corrupt corporate Democratic Party lost me.
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Independent, if not a Democrat, than who?
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The same tune and the same results for over 25 years
Nothing!
No legislation that enacts just one of his "ideas"
Idea's are great but the score is kept based on accomplishments
Nothing!
No legislation that enacts just one of his "ideas"
Idea's are great but the score is kept based on accomplishments
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It's called character, and Bernie has it in spades. I don't want a president who will "triangulate" their way through every issue - I want a president of good, sound character.
We are gearing up for a big Bernie victory here in California in June to put him over the top, and will not accept the flawed substitute that the DNC is trying to force upon us under any circumstances.
The Democratic establishment will feel the Bern.
We are gearing up for a big Bernie victory here in California in June to put him over the top, and will not accept the flawed substitute that the DNC is trying to force upon us under any circumstances.
The Democratic establishment will feel the Bern.
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These kinds of articles slay me. For years Congress' approval ratings have been at the bottom of the barrel. Now somehow we're to understand that Bernie's lack of support from these obstructionists, who do so very little for the salaries and benefits we the people pay them, reflects poorly on him? On the contrary, I stand with the man who's stood by me and my family, who never forgot what he went to Congress to do, and who has made progress any way he could for us without succumbing to cynicism and corruption.
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By now I should learn to just ignore anything mr Horowitz publishes, but this piece is so condescending in its tone. Yet, it terms of its objective facts, I can't complain. Bernie's message, and his consistency in delivering that message, is right on the mark. Tell me please, mr Horowitz, for the talk of all of Hillary's experience and capability, what has she accomplished -- since she was First Lady? Name on thing.
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"Matt Motyl, a political psychologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago who is studying how the candidates speak, said that while most politicians will adjust their language, if not their message, to what they believe the crowd wants to hear, Mr. Sanders does not."
Not so. Bernie's all for shutting down coal mines but didn't bring up that issue when he showed up in Navajo country where many native Americans are coal mine and power plant workers.
Not so. Bernie's all for shutting down coal mines but didn't bring up that issue when he showed up in Navajo country where many native Americans are coal mine and power plant workers.
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I've also never heard him mention his proposed legislation to dump vermont's nuclear waste in a poor Latino community in Texas while also removing their right to legally challenge it.
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The time has come for America to embrace Sandersism - our politics is broken, our economy is broken, and the rise of Trump is the canary in the coal mine. If things don't change to make America work for Americans, we're closer than you'd think to a breakdown that could turn violent.
Sanders' democratic socialism is a return to the values of FDR, and should not be confused with socialism. Sanders wants to make health a public good, but he's not about to nationalize auto plants and hotels and the oil industry. There will be more opportunity, not less, under his plan.
I have a net worth around $3M, but this millionaire wants his children and grandchildren to live in a nation of equals, ruled by law not oligarchs and strongmen. I want a world habitable for them, with clean air and water and food that doesn't poison their immune system.
We've ignored Sanders long enough. If we want this nation to endure, we need to Feel the Bern!
Sanders' democratic socialism is a return to the values of FDR, and should not be confused with socialism. Sanders wants to make health a public good, but he's not about to nationalize auto plants and hotels and the oil industry. There will be more opportunity, not less, under his plan.
I have a net worth around $3M, but this millionaire wants his children and grandchildren to live in a nation of equals, ruled by law not oligarchs and strongmen. I want a world habitable for them, with clean air and water and food that doesn't poison their immune system.
We've ignored Sanders long enough. If we want this nation to endure, we need to Feel the Bern!
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After 25 years representing Vermont in congress he received some 90% of the vote in the Vermont primary. That's all you need to know about this man. Compare that to Rubio or Kasich or Christie in their home states.
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That and Vermont is a poor state, with a higher unemployment rate than the US average and 15% of its children on food stamps, despite having few immigrants and minorities, the people most likely to use those services.
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Sanders has also been a consistent gun supporter. After several failed campaigns, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA endorsed him, and he wont that election. Then he cast two important pro-gun votes for the NRA, and went on from there. Immunity from lawsuits for gun manufacturers, no background checks for handguns, guns in national parks, guns in D.C., etc.
Politicians aren't always bought with money. Sometimes they are bought by influence, and he was definitely bought by the NRA from the beginning. Guns now kill more people every year than automobile accidents.
The calls for political revolution are the same calls that took place in many countries at the beginning of the 20th century by communists and socialists. That is a very old-fashioned and non-American
Politicians aren't always bought with money. Sometimes they are bought by influence, and he was definitely bought by the NRA from the beginning. Guns now kill more people every year than automobile accidents.
The calls for political revolution are the same calls that took place in many countries at the beginning of the 20th century by communists and socialists. That is a very old-fashioned and non-American
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Hillary held a fundraiser with NRA lobbyists.
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Better late than never, but this story comes months after it should have. Even amateur video editors have been splicing together montages of Bernie's videotaped statements over the last 40 years to show how incredibly consistent and courageous he's been.
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They used to call my Uncle Bob a 1-note Johnny, too. In the 60s, he was on the frontlines with others defending civil rights. In the early 70s, he took me (then 5) on my first anti-war demonstration. In the early 80s, he was screaming for a living $10 wage. In the 90s, he was arrested several times for protesting financial corruption in Puerto Rico. And in the oughts, he circled back to civil rights after someone dressed a cadaver in KKK garb in his ambulance corps, to intimidate him into dropping off the team.
His consistency and persistency of message always resonated with me, and I held his convictions in high esteem. It didn't matter how many people he exhausted with his rants. He was right the entire time.
My uncle's death last year was the spark that got me to volunteer for Bernie Sanders's campaign the instant I heard him announce his candidacy. What a joy to be able to put truth to power and actively get behind real purpose and change and not just another well-coiffed talking head.
#Bernie2016 #TruthSpeaksLoudly
His consistency and persistency of message always resonated with me, and I held his convictions in high esteem. It didn't matter how many people he exhausted with his rants. He was right the entire time.
My uncle's death last year was the spark that got me to volunteer for Bernie Sanders's campaign the instant I heard him announce his candidacy. What a joy to be able to put truth to power and actively get behind real purpose and change and not just another well-coiffed talking head.
#Bernie2016 #TruthSpeaksLoudly
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If only the NYTimes felt some responsibility to investigate Sanders' real track record. His accomplishments are not limited to his rhetoric. You could be explaining why Sanders is known as the "Amendment King" of the Senate. Or you could interview residents of Burlington to find out how he transformed that city. And then you could do a follow-up piece about how he overcame entrenched political opposition when he was first elected Mayor of Burlington (despite all odds). Those are the stories that would address the true potential of a Sanders presidency. You know, there's still time to write those articles before the New York Primary. C'mon NYTimes - show your readers we can still rely on you for fair coverage and in-depth reporting. There ARE other news sources out there, and your readers are catching on. (For example, I recommend this excellent radio interview about Sander's accomplishments in Burlington: http://radioboston.wbur.org/2016/03/17/sanders-burlington-mayor)
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Bernie has always been for Main Street, even before Wall Street and K Street grew to monstrous proportions.
Best kind of street fight.
Best kind of street fight.
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Yes, I want a revolution. Bernie wants the same things he did 20 years ago because the problems are only getting worse and the incrementalism Clinton promotes will only perpetuate the trend, because it will be one step forward two steps back.
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Mrs. Clinton has also stated that the political views she formed in the 1960s still guide her life. I also grew up then and was a "wild radical" as well, but finally came to understand that the writers of the Constitution crafted a wonderful document that understood the good and bad of human nature, and balanced individual freedom with necessary powers of the state. I'd say 95% of we "radicals" evolved as well.
Both of the Democratic candidates are running to try and put into effect ideas formed, and apparently congealed unchanged, in their brains 50 years ago.
The only other segment of American society that clung to the idea that America was a nasty, criminal state was in academia, which unfortunately has been churning out graduates over the past 50 years indoctrinated in the idea that America is the enemy and oppressor of the rest of the world.
Both of the Democratic candidates are running to try and put into effect ideas formed, and apparently congealed unchanged, in their brains 50 years ago.
The only other segment of American society that clung to the idea that America was a nasty, criminal state was in academia, which unfortunately has been churning out graduates over the past 50 years indoctrinated in the idea that America is the enemy and oppressor of the rest of the world.
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And you love the American Constitution so much that you live in Thailand.
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Take note: HRC was a fervent Goldwater supporter back in the day. That still guides her life?
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Sadly incompetent for the POTUS, millions come here to escape socialism and he wants to bring it here? Predictable attack on the rich. But, what he doesn't tell you that if you tax millionaires and billionaires at 100% that will buy 15 days of deficit spending. "You don't make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak" Abraham Lincoln. He would also contract the war on terror? If you don't fight them there you will fight them here. Can not understand his appeal. Mind boggling.
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Why has Europe escaped from the job exports to China? The firms that try this must pay for the retraining of the workers tossed out onto the street. If the US had done this, Trump would have zero audience. A fix up would be the Sanders plan of soaking the rich.
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The word socialism has more than one meaning. He is not calling on making you a pauper. It is about being a better society, all of us. All of the rich will remain rich. Try to visit some countries, eg. Switzerland or Norway, to see an alternative. Taxes are what we pay for civilization.
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Socialism? What do you call Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Public schools, Public hospitals, interstate highways, federal air traffic control, etc, etc, etc? Do you really want to give all this up because you are politically/philosophically anti-socialist? BTW Eisenhower had a 90% top income tax rate and the country boomed.
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He will win because the conservative, corporate, mainstream media refuses to pay attention.
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"...a stark contrast with Mrs. Clinton, who has echoed him by saying “the economy is rigged in favor of those at the top” but who still has trouble convincing voters she is trustworthy."
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Please, there are innumerable differences in the workplaces/political positions of Hilary and Bernie since 1987 that would surely cause her some "trouble convincing voters she is trustworthy" when talking about "those at the top." In fact, there could only be a minuscule number of voters in doubt.
This story is exactly what the corporate media have failed to spell out for voters for the past one-third of a century. The monstrosity that has taken shape at the other end of the political spectrum is the product of that lacuna in U.S. democracy, so obvious to the foreign onlooker.
Let's hope it's being made whole in time.
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Please, there are innumerable differences in the workplaces/political positions of Hilary and Bernie since 1987 that would surely cause her some "trouble convincing voters she is trustworthy" when talking about "those at the top." In fact, there could only be a minuscule number of voters in doubt.
This story is exactly what the corporate media have failed to spell out for voters for the past one-third of a century. The monstrosity that has taken shape at the other end of the political spectrum is the product of that lacuna in U.S. democracy, so obvious to the foreign onlooker.
Let's hope it's being made whole in time.
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Perhaps Mr. Sanders would be happier living in the slave state of Cuba. Anywhere in the world his type of political perspective has actually been tried -- all that remains is bitter degradation. I recently visited Cuba. I saw first hand and spoke with many people there. Every single one essentially expressed the same thought to me: if Castro ever allowed the citizens to have a passport -- the whole population would promptly leave. It is a slave state. So Mr. Sander's is dreaming what every other extreme leftist has dreamt of. Reality, though, is what it is. Our country has the immense problems it has from people like Mr. Sanders trying to push it into a more leftist perspective.
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@Len, if you can't tell the difference between Cuba and Germany you've got issues.
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Please. Sanders' political vision is that of Scandinavian social democracy or the New Deal. The slave state you are thinking of is the direction we are currently headed if we don't change course.
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How is it that everyone I know who's been to Cuba has had a completely different experience than you? It's uncanny. Were you against the Cuban government before you went?
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Karl Marx and the Daily Worker have said the same before Bernie ever ran for office.
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And they were right, too.
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If you want a healthy planet and if want to move away from oligarchy and return to democratic values, Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who will make these issues front and center.
Sanders is the stronger general election candidate. In head-to-head matchups with Republicans, Sanders does much better than Clinton. Why? He would garner support from more Independents, some Republicans (in his 2012 senate reelection he received 25 percent of the Republican vote), and those who typically vote third party or stay home because Washington does not represent them.
A commenter to his speech at The Brookings Institution said Sanders is “pure awesome in politics, humanity, journey, integrity, background, citizenship, smarts, experience, etc., etc.” I couldn’t agree more.
Sanders is the stronger general election candidate. In head-to-head matchups with Republicans, Sanders does much better than Clinton. Why? He would garner support from more Independents, some Republicans (in his 2012 senate reelection he received 25 percent of the Republican vote), and those who typically vote third party or stay home because Washington does not represent them.
A commenter to his speech at The Brookings Institution said Sanders is “pure awesome in politics, humanity, journey, integrity, background, citizenship, smarts, experience, etc., etc.” I couldn’t agree more.
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How sad it is that one of America's premier newspapers and so many of its readers find it bizarre that a man or a woman might have a set of principles and cleave to them throughout a lifetime.
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It is not his principles people take issue with, but his inability to compromise and get laws passed.
In 26 years, out of 781 bills he has sponsored, he got three bills passed.
Three.
How is this not a concern to his fans? Oh right, the 'revolution'.
In 26 years, out of 781 bills he has sponsored, he got three bills passed.
Three.
How is this not a concern to his fans? Oh right, the 'revolution'.
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@FSMLives
LOL! So true. Why don't these Bernie supporters allow ANY kind of reality into their viewpoint?
LOL! So true. Why don't these Bernie supporters allow ANY kind of reality into their viewpoint?
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My wife is an RN, and I'm a data analyst (and a Military Police platoon sergeant in the National Guard). Between us, we'll make about $150K this year (and we live in Georgia). If we were solely concerned with our own self interest, we'd either vote Republican or Clinton. But we've got 5 kids, ranging in age from 13 to 23. Our oldest just graduated from college with a degree in computer science, and with a GPA of 3.7. He's currently working for an online tax service for $13 per hour (plus being a National Guard artillery crewman). Until maybe 5-6 years ago, we were barely making ends meet, and unable to save for retirement. I want something a bit better for my children and (future) grandchildren. A continuation of the status quo is not the way to achieve that. So I've donated to Sanders 3 times so far.
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How is this not a NYT pick?
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Hey crankyoldman...I am a cranky old woman with adult children struggling too despite college education....and inspired by your words I just donated another 5 dollars to Bernie's campaign, OUR campaign THEIR future.
Ka ching...
Ka ching...
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Under sander'so tax plan, with your income, you'd pay an additional $15,000 dollars in taxes.
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This is really great. It is way past time for America to have more than 2 political parties and the consistency of Mr. Sanders over time really proves that he is not bought out. And remember: socialism is NOT communism or oligarchy. And it is not gender or race politics either.
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He is really a progressive and although dems hijacked that word they have been acting like republicans since Clinton years so I think he used that word to set himself apart.
He should have stuck the progressive label on instead but in any case we already have some socialist programs like SOCIAL security, PUBLIC education and most people like these. People like CRUZ controlled by Koch brothers want to destroy these and more.
Of course they LOVE corporate welfare like wall street bailout Bernie is always talking about...do most people realize the Koch Brothers PUSHED this through because they would have lost much of their fortune? Its on who and how tax $$ is spent, that is real economic war, and the oligarchs want US to pay while they get richer....how is this not stealing from us? We need representatives who work for US...not the oligarchs.
He should have stuck the progressive label on instead but in any case we already have some socialist programs like SOCIAL security, PUBLIC education and most people like these. People like CRUZ controlled by Koch brothers want to destroy these and more.
Of course they LOVE corporate welfare like wall street bailout Bernie is always talking about...do most people realize the Koch Brothers PUSHED this through because they would have lost much of their fortune? Its on who and how tax $$ is spent, that is real economic war, and the oligarchs want US to pay while they get richer....how is this not stealing from us? We need representatives who work for US...not the oligarchs.
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I think directionally the Sanders message is right. We do need Universal Health Care , we do need less expensive College education ( not sure it should be free)
we do need to overturn Citizens United .
However in the case of Health care and college tuition fees we need to reduce the cost base before implementing Sanders plan.
While I think Ms Clinton will win the nomination I think it is critical we keep these issues alive.
I would like to see Elizabeth Warren as Ms Clintons VP pick and Senator Sanders in her cabinet.
This should ensure these issues are kept in the forefront of our thinking and encourage Senator Sanders followers to vote in November
we do need to overturn Citizens United .
However in the case of Health care and college tuition fees we need to reduce the cost base before implementing Sanders plan.
While I think Ms Clinton will win the nomination I think it is critical we keep these issues alive.
I would like to see Elizabeth Warren as Ms Clintons VP pick and Senator Sanders in her cabinet.
This should ensure these issues are kept in the forefront of our thinking and encourage Senator Sanders followers to vote in November
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Do you think for a second HRC is going to add Bernie to her cabinet so he can outshine her... You don't know Hillary. You'll soon see her in true form after the election, she is a female version of Ted Cruz minus the religious ideology.
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NONE of this will happen on hrc watch, you are fooling no one especially Bernie Sanders supporters.
Many of us older progressives supported Bernie first pre 2008 then at his request we supported Obama and he stepped aside ten years ago.
We worked so hard to get Obama so called progressive elected.
He sold us out before he got in white house and let all of us down including Bernie when he did wall street bailout keeping people like Koch Brothers super wealthy at our expense! These are people who scream for free market freedom, ya freedom to scr#w us!
hrc words mean nothing! She already is wall street sellout and more.
Will not be fooled twice...Actually 4 times because I voted for bill way back when.
And vp role is a powerless position.
Your argument does nothing to sway me or blind me to truth (even if NYT thinks we are dumb enough to buy it.)
Ka ching...another Bernie donation.
Many of us older progressives supported Bernie first pre 2008 then at his request we supported Obama and he stepped aside ten years ago.
We worked so hard to get Obama so called progressive elected.
He sold us out before he got in white house and let all of us down including Bernie when he did wall street bailout keeping people like Koch Brothers super wealthy at our expense! These are people who scream for free market freedom, ya freedom to scr#w us!
hrc words mean nothing! She already is wall street sellout and more.
Will not be fooled twice...Actually 4 times because I voted for bill way back when.
And vp role is a powerless position.
Your argument does nothing to sway me or blind me to truth (even if NYT thinks we are dumb enough to buy it.)
Ka ching...another Bernie donation.
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Warren and Clinton are not on the same page - it would be a very awkward marriage.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/warren-criticizes-clinton-record-at-union-s...
Please don't let the media make your choices for you. We can put Bernie over the finish line if we push hard for him here in California.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/warren-criticizes-clinton-record-at-union-s...
Please don't let the media make your choices for you. We can put Bernie over the finish line if we push hard for him here in California.
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Here's what I'm afraid of: 4 to 8 more years of the status quo with Hillary.
Look how angry the populace is after 8 years of the status quo under Obama. The result: an environment in which a demagogue like Trump is ascendant.
Peaceful revolution now with Bernie, or violent one later.
The oligarchy is just not sustainable.
Look how angry the populace is after 8 years of the status quo under Obama. The result: an environment in which a demagogue like Trump is ascendant.
Peaceful revolution now with Bernie, or violent one later.
The oligarchy is just not sustainable.
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Here's what I'm afraid of:
1. Trump wins the nomination, as does Sanders and Sanders wins the election. Four years (he won't get another four) of Sanders getting absolutely nothing done, as Congress will stay Red and roadblock him in ways that Obama could only dream of.
2. Trump wins the nomination, as does Sanders and Trump wins the election. Eight years of Trump.
3. Trump wins the nomination, as does Hillary and Sanders voters refuse to vote or they vote for an Independent, just as did 97,488 Nader voters in 2000 (thanks for that). Trump wins the election. Eight years of Trump.
It's not personal, you do not have to 'like' your candidate, and insisting that you will take all your toys and go home if you don't get everything your way is for children and fools.
1. Trump wins the nomination, as does Sanders and Sanders wins the election. Four years (he won't get another four) of Sanders getting absolutely nothing done, as Congress will stay Red and roadblock him in ways that Obama could only dream of.
2. Trump wins the nomination, as does Sanders and Trump wins the election. Eight years of Trump.
3. Trump wins the nomination, as does Hillary and Sanders voters refuse to vote or they vote for an Independent, just as did 97,488 Nader voters in 2000 (thanks for that). Trump wins the election. Eight years of Trump.
It's not personal, you do not have to 'like' your candidate, and insisting that you will take all your toys and go home if you don't get everything your way is for children and fools.
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Try again on that history of Gore v. Bush. Katherine Harris and Clayton Roberts used a voter purge list to eliminate voters despite warnings that it was deeply flawed, including "felons of the future" who hadn't been born yet, and most importantly, non-felons who shared a permutation of a felon's name. They shaved 57K of eligible voters, mostly Dem, from the registration lists in FL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChoicePoint#Florida_voter_file_contract
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChoicePoint#Florida_voter_file_contract
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@FSMLives
"It's not personal, you do not have to 'like' your candidate, and insisting that you will take all your toys and go home if you don't get everything your way is for children and fools."
This is so true. The Bernie proletariat is just exhausting in the same way nagging toddlers are!
"It's not personal, you do not have to 'like' your candidate, and insisting that you will take all your toys and go home if you don't get everything your way is for children and fools."
This is so true. The Bernie proletariat is just exhausting in the same way nagging toddlers are!
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The detritus of 9/11 and our timid response to the 2008 crash has made this time the time for Bernie.
I'm another "young" 60 yr old telling my Reagan Democrat contemporaries to give it a rest and allow the younger generation to take the reins.
My generation dropped the ball.
It is high time for some Western Europe Socialism to come to River City.
I'm another "young" 60 yr old telling my Reagan Democrat contemporaries to give it a rest and allow the younger generation to take the reins.
My generation dropped the ball.
It is high time for some Western Europe Socialism to come to River City.
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There you go again, NYT, concluding that New Hampshire was the "high water mark" for Bernie's campaign well before it's over. It is far from over.
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Mr. Sanders has surpassed this mark. Shame on the author!
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Sometimes I get the feeling that Bernie supporters they think votes in the North are more important than votes in the South, or Black votes don't matter.
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And that they think NYC is going to roll over and die for him. They're not
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Why?
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Milliband,
Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
As far as I know, it is the Clinton campaign poisoning the waters out of desperation.
Please explain how you came to that conclusion.
As far as I know, it is the Clinton campaign poisoning the waters out of desperation.
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He is correct, isn't he? The sooner the 99% take back some power, the better. Everyone knows this. Some fight for it, and some fight against it. Elect accordingly.
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If Sec Clinton had been saying the same thing for nearly forty years and had little to show for it legislatively but talk, talk and more talk, one wonders how different the tone of this article would've been.
Perhaps more "inept, unpopular politician who can't find co-sponsors and support" and less "sticks to a message regardless of which way the wind is blowing"?
Perhaps more "inept, unpopular politician who can't find co-sponsors and support" and less "sticks to a message regardless of which way the wind is blowing"?
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I've been following Bernie since well before his presidential run. I've tuned into the occasional "Brunch with Bernie". I am in agreement with his views in large part. I understand that even after 30% of the nation has had it's primaries he is still getting his message out there for the first time to a lot of people. I don't want him to change his message, but I wish he would expand it, or better put expound upon it. What I think is missing is the connecting of dots. That the loss of income for so many means SPECIFICALLY that they never ever reach that next step, whether it be finishing school, or going on trade school, or college, or home ownership, or small business ownership or any kind of long term investment that pays a person back. That with such drastically low incomes which do indeed effect all people (race, age, gender), there is never a chance to break through to any sort of self improvement or advancement.
There is plenty of evidence that very wealthy people do not create jobs and do not spend money that would really improve the economy. As some 19th century economist said..."the ladies of Boston don't buy hats - they already have them". Middle class people - as consumers - create jobs and keep the economy going. They have been sitting on their hands nearly 10 years. The current rise in the stock market is not the indicator of a healthy working economy. It is window dressing. It is rich people buying and selling it is not the middle class working and spending.
There is plenty of evidence that very wealthy people do not create jobs and do not spend money that would really improve the economy. As some 19th century economist said..."the ladies of Boston don't buy hats - they already have them". Middle class people - as consumers - create jobs and keep the economy going. They have been sitting on their hands nearly 10 years. The current rise in the stock market is not the indicator of a healthy working economy. It is window dressing. It is rich people buying and selling it is not the middle class working and spending.
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You make consistency and integrity -the absolute opposite of Clinton's
characteristics - into qualities that are no longer applicable to politics.
New Hampshire was not the high-water mark of his campaign,the major-
ity vote that will put him in the White House is coming.
characteristics - into qualities that are no longer applicable to politics.
New Hampshire was not the high-water mark of his campaign,the major-
ity vote that will put him in the White House is coming.
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If Obama was stonewalled by Congress for 8 years, imagine what they'll do to poor Bernie? Even the Dems think his ideas are pie in the sky... But not to worry- somebody like him will come along in about 20 years and the country will be ready to accept his/her ideas as smart and common sense. We're just not there yet because the old guard ain't ready to let go...
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i would rather have good ideas stonewalled than bad ideas passed easily
th point is not to get things done, but to get good things done
th point is not to get things done, but to get good things done
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It is common sense. Bernie's Ideas do not work. They never have and they will. Look at any where in the world where those ideas are and you see the problems.
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Yes, the Scandinavian countries in particular consistently rank in the top level of international comparisons in education, they rank in the top level of happiness, they have low levels of child poverty, maternal deaths, and people don't die from lack of health insurance coverage. I see so many problems there.
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extreme wealth isnt the problem, demanding that the government take someones property and gives it to someone else is . If you have to use force then u r barking up the wrong tree.
Bernie should have grown up in cuba, venezuela, argentina, brazil they are modern day testaments to bernie's misguided thinking.
Bernie should have grown up in cuba, venezuela, argentina, brazil they are modern day testaments to bernie's misguided thinking.
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goeasyonus,
You do not sound like a Democrat.
You do not sound like a Democrat.
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Bernie has never suggested taking a Robin Hood approach to anything and forcing people to give up their property. He's telling the wealthy and mega corporations they have to pay their taxes. Just like they used to in America.
Your argument is so very flawed and off the mark that it's difficult to even begin a real dialogue. At least settle into the facts rather than default to tired arguments that don't advance understanding.
Your argument is so very flawed and off the mark that it's difficult to even begin a real dialogue. At least settle into the facts rather than default to tired arguments that don't advance understanding.
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U.S. data on income inequality prove Senator Sanders' point. The nation's economy increasingly benefits the wealthiest, a trend that has been gathering steam since 1980.
Bernie Sanders may be singing a 35 year old tune, but it's a great tune, especially for working Americans.
It's both novel and refreshing to encounter a politician who is consistent, believes in what he says and can navigate without holding a finger to the wind, Go, Bernie!
Bernie Sanders may be singing a 35 year old tune, but it's a great tune, especially for working Americans.
It's both novel and refreshing to encounter a politician who is consistent, believes in what he says and can navigate without holding a finger to the wind, Go, Bernie!
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Actually the tune is a lot older than 35 years. Marx and Engels wrote the manifesto in 1848 and Karl produced Das Kapital in 1867. Both were well-intentioned humanitarian democrats. Yet their ideas inspired world class killers: See Lenin, Stalin, Mao.
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Bernie's fight for the average person is admirable, the challenge is in making real progress. In his decades in congress, he's been a reliable and honest voice on the far left. What he hasn't been able to do, is formulate and pass any of his own major policy initiatives. In the general election, everyone will be focused on the final two candidates. This is when the economic analysis of his two key programs will be placed under a harsh and ruthless spotlight. It will soon devolve into a contest of who's scarier to the swing voter. Republicans will bill Bernie as a quixotic, out of control tax and spend socialist. A politician who is also very weak on defense, far beyond simply voting against overseas engagements. Hillary hasn't pounded him in this subject, while republicans will not hesitate to. Democrats will bill Trump or Cruz (or almost any republican) as a scary militarist and servant of the rich. Bernie's poll projected lead will likely evaporate under the new found scrutiny of his proposals and philosophy, whereas Hillary's negatives are already well known by the entire electorate. Hillary is still likely to beat the GOP front runners, based on current polls. Encouraging for Clinton, given that twenty years of republican attacks are already baked into every voters opinion.
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Hillary's *aspirational* proposals already represent negligible progress. And she is just as likely to get stonewalled as Bernie. It's not about issues for the GOP.
As for the general election, Mitt Romney and John McCain would have successfully attacked and defeated Bernie. But Trump or Cruz? It looks good for either Democrat at the moment.
As for the general election, Mitt Romney and John McCain would have successfully attacked and defeated Bernie. But Trump or Cruz? It looks good for either Democrat at the moment.
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@Andy W
Very well-reasoned analysis. I agree with all of your points and I only hope the Bernie supporters can come around so that we can insure a Democrat is in the White House in Nov.
Very well-reasoned analysis. I agree with all of your points and I only hope the Bernie supporters can come around so that we can insure a Democrat is in the White House in Nov.
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Mr. Bouricius worried, though, that Mr. Sanders had not done enough to actually build the political revolution he had spent 40 years calling for. “If Bernie gets hit by a bus,” Mr. Bouricius said, "a lot of this just goes away.”
Exactly. 40 years on the fringes, running as a Socialist, later an independent now suddenly a Democrat. Big dreams of revolution but no measurable results, no infrastructure to effect change. Keep fighting the good fight Sen Sanders. Then please refocus your energy to mobilize your passionate flock to get behind Sec Clinton to defeat the Republican nominee. Elections have consequences in the real world. A Trump presidency would harm the country and the world irreparably.
Exactly. 40 years on the fringes, running as a Socialist, later an independent now suddenly a Democrat. Big dreams of revolution but no measurable results, no infrastructure to effect change. Keep fighting the good fight Sen Sanders. Then please refocus your energy to mobilize your passionate flock to get behind Sec Clinton to defeat the Republican nominee. Elections have consequences in the real world. A Trump presidency would harm the country and the world irreparably.
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The DNC really should have thought about this before they tried to fix an election. This Sanders supporter will not only NOT vote for Hillary, he will work hard to oppose her.
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Trump and the GOP haven't bothered to go after Sanders yet, because they consider him a joke - and then we will have eight years of Donald Trump.
Just as we had eight years of GW Bush, thanks to the starry eyed Lefties who voted for Nader, because they had to vote 'their conscience', you see.
Thanks for that, by the way.
Just as we had eight years of GW Bush, thanks to the starry eyed Lefties who voted for Nader, because they had to vote 'their conscience', you see.
Thanks for that, by the way.
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(sigh)
Another unflattering article on Bernie Sanders, big surprise.
Sanders has been saying the same thing for 20 years because it was the right thing to say, and because while other politicians tacked to take advantage of the prevailing winds he had the integrity to stay the course.
How have these other politicians done with their tax cuts for the rich, finance industry deregulation, support from moneyed special interests, and campaign to send ever more American jobs to low-wage countries? Not very well, I'm afraid -- the middle class is disappearing and income inequality has reached levels not seen since the Gilded Age.
Now, finally, things are changing, as younger Americans experience the sad effects of more than 30 years of Reagan-inspired economic policy.
Bernie Sanders was right then and he's right now, and I for one am grateful that while politicians like Hillary Clinton were changing their opinions to match the polls, Bernie Sanders stuck to what he believes is true.
Another unflattering article on Bernie Sanders, big surprise.
Sanders has been saying the same thing for 20 years because it was the right thing to say, and because while other politicians tacked to take advantage of the prevailing winds he had the integrity to stay the course.
How have these other politicians done with their tax cuts for the rich, finance industry deregulation, support from moneyed special interests, and campaign to send ever more American jobs to low-wage countries? Not very well, I'm afraid -- the middle class is disappearing and income inequality has reached levels not seen since the Gilded Age.
Now, finally, things are changing, as younger Americans experience the sad effects of more than 30 years of Reagan-inspired economic policy.
Bernie Sanders was right then and he's right now, and I for one am grateful that while politicians like Hillary Clinton were changing their opinions to match the polls, Bernie Sanders stuck to what he believes is true.
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Josh, I'm on your side of the bleachers--but I fear you merely read the headline and took it the wrong way; this is a very good portrayal of Sanders. Especially for the NYT and its record the last few months. Read it again! This is good news!
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AY, thanks for reading and responding. For what it's worth, I did read the entire article (I admit to cheating occasionally, but not this time! and my impression was still as I said in the comment -- I found it extremely unflattering. to the point at which I was tempted to call it propaganda. Not until the quote at the end did I think it was insightful and balanced.
Not sure why we got such different impressions, but I did read to the end.
Not sure why we got such different impressions, but I did read to the end.
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He has a message and he stays on it. That's why he is successful. He has not allowed the punditocracy to derail the issues. He is doing a good job and the would be robot comparisons fail.
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Bernie may or may not be able to provide the leadership necessary to effect a sweeping transformation of our national politics and policies, but there are two compelling reasons why we must give him the chance:
1) Hillary will not provide significant constructive change; she will basically keep us mired in the increasingly unviable status quo; and, BTW, when so much is being made of her experience, I have to wonder, does it really add up to an endorsement when that experience has largely been associated with monumental failures? The really sad story is that she does not seem to have learned much of anything from her foreign policy experience, and the main thing she seems to have learned about domestic politics is not to look quite so phony as she did the last time she campaigned for President.
2) Without major transformation, much more than our democratic republic remains in peril, including the habitability of the entire planet.
Given America's birth, revolution should not be a dirty word, though I propose that "transformative change" might be better to denote what is required. No less than Thomas Jefferson maintained that periodic revolutions would be necessary to preserve what the founders created. We're long overdue, and I think the politically conscious members of the younger generation recognize that without transformative change, they and we will not have "a future to believe in."
1) Hillary will not provide significant constructive change; she will basically keep us mired in the increasingly unviable status quo; and, BTW, when so much is being made of her experience, I have to wonder, does it really add up to an endorsement when that experience has largely been associated with monumental failures? The really sad story is that she does not seem to have learned much of anything from her foreign policy experience, and the main thing she seems to have learned about domestic politics is not to look quite so phony as she did the last time she campaigned for President.
2) Without major transformation, much more than our democratic republic remains in peril, including the habitability of the entire planet.
Given America's birth, revolution should not be a dirty word, though I propose that "transformative change" might be better to denote what is required. No less than Thomas Jefferson maintained that periodic revolutions would be necessary to preserve what the founders created. We're long overdue, and I think the politically conscious members of the younger generation recognize that without transformative change, they and we will not have "a future to believe in."
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Hillary Clinton has done something I'm not sure is part of Sanders' DNA - evolution and growth. She knows how to lead and she has the skills to work across the aisle. That can not be said about Sanders, he has neither the skills nor the temperment to be president. To have not evolved in 40 years speaks to stagnation, not consistency.
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slowly and deliberately the NYT pivots towards Bernie Sanders and his radical message. A convenient counterpoint to the chaos on the right.
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You've got to give a revolution time (no matter what the dictionary says). Sanders was all but unknown a year ago. And recalling the article in the NYT quoting southern democrats who didn't even realize he wasn't Bernie Madoff (!), it's arguable that he's still not a national figure. Yet his message is becoming common currency, is going beyond him.
I don't think he'll win the nomination, but other factors may impel that message into the future. The possible implosion of the GOP will free closet progressives in the Dems to speak their consciences rather than enable Clintonian (Bill, that is) triangulation. Speaking of that family, there is no reason to assume that Hillary will govern the way Bill did. She can probably barely stand the man. Her Wall Street performance was bad news, but she undoubtedly wants to leave a mark in history free from the taint of nepotism. She will respond to the spirit of the times. Let's make sure Sanders' message survives.
I don't think he'll win the nomination, but other factors may impel that message into the future. The possible implosion of the GOP will free closet progressives in the Dems to speak their consciences rather than enable Clintonian (Bill, that is) triangulation. Speaking of that family, there is no reason to assume that Hillary will govern the way Bill did. She can probably barely stand the man. Her Wall Street performance was bad news, but she undoubtedly wants to leave a mark in history free from the taint of nepotism. She will respond to the spirit of the times. Let's make sure Sanders' message survives.
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how about an article now on how clinton "evolves" whenever it's politically expedient? I'm sure you all can find a positive spin on that.
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Bulletin to the Times, not all of Bernie's loyal fans are young. I know at least one
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I'm all in with Bernie as this election really does pit the power of the moneyed few against those who have been left behind in the "trickle down," voodoo economics" that has created the largest wealth gap (aka "income inequality") since just before the Great Depression. With the billionaire Donald Trump or the wall street indebted Hillary Clinton this may be the election the finally overturns our democracy from a democratic republic to a plutocracy controlled by a few Wall Street oligarchs. Both congress and the Supreme Court are currently firmly controlled by the wealthy corporate class and the Presidency is the only remaining obstacle. Bernie may be too one-note and his "revolution" which in reality is more a reformation or restoration may be painted as too Bolshevik for the masses, but the stakes seem incredibly high to this lifelong progressive Democrat who has never seen such a threat in over 50 years of voting. It is one that seems to be "under the radar screen" drowned out by all the Trump antics, but it is the reality that money, which has been corroding our politics for decades, may finally make the dysfunctional political process obsolete. So, while many may not "Feel the Bern" and say he's been "crying wolf" for 40 years, I say the wolf now really is at the door and Bernie is trying to put him back in his cage.
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Mr. Sanders has been singing the same tune for 35 years but before the web his message wasn't heard by 10s of millions of American voters. His message has been the same, but the rigged economy is a lot more rigged today than it was 35 years ago.
The Clintons are the 1% we are fighting against. Bernie stands a good chance to win the nomination despite the corporate media continuously undermining him. If he loses, America will lose.
The Clintons are the 1% we are fighting against. Bernie stands a good chance to win the nomination despite the corporate media continuously undermining him. If he loses, America will lose.
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I am surprised the moderator made this a pick.
I agree 100%.
I agree 100%.
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WestSider, please get out the vote for Bernie in NYC. My millennial son who lives in UWS is hoping that Bernie will make a good dent in the delegate count from NY, come April...
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Sanders is facing a speeding bus in the form of Clinton ? With states like NY and CA coming up, Clinton's bus is about to run out of gas. With FBI investigation heating up, her bus might even end up with a flat tire.
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Sanders is right. We have evolved over the last few generations a system where those who have wealth and privilege have utilized our governmental system to their own advantage, guaranteeing themselves more and more wealth and privilege. Meanwhile, where once 'the rest of us' got just enough to feel contented, and the role of offsetting societal forces (unions, economic expansion, accessible education) enabled those with some drive and ambition to feel that working would lead to a rise in their living standard over time. With changes in economic prospects, disproportionate increases in education costs, and systematic repression of unions driven by those in control of the levers of government, the prospects of 'the rest of us' have stagnated. Unless and until there is a restructuring of the ability of the wealthy and privileged to steer the government's activity in their favor, the prospects of 'the rest of us' will continue to stall. A "political revolution" is one way to rebalance the equity and the expectations of all the members of society. The 'occupy Wall Street' movement is a mild form of a different way to rebalance and re-equify our social contract with all the economic levels in our society... and perhaps a precursor of the eventual actual rebalancing 'revolution' if the wealthy and privileged do not yield their control more graciously. Plutocrats and oligarchs, you should take heed, before some mob takes your heads.
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Thanks. You and Socialist Sanders just added 5,000 more N.R.A. members.
Thanks -- not.
Thanks -- not.
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That's true of President Obama too. I wonder if anyone has counted the times he's said "That's not who we are" since even before he was elected. My liberal friends love the president's rhetoric, but, except for occasional deviations that come as pleasant surprises, I find it repetitive and uninspiring.
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For all his goodness Obama is driven by personal ambition and controlled by oligarchs and is one now himself....so of course he is not inspiring.
It rings hollow due to lack of integrity, magnitudes more so with hrc.
People see through the words....Bernie is rare and has more political integrity than most:
Because he refuses to take dirty campaign financing once you do you sell your soul.
And he means what he says today as much as he did 40 years ago… Too bad all his fellow politicians were never listening and the media has always blacked him out... America's great loss.
It rings hollow due to lack of integrity, magnitudes more so with hrc.
People see through the words....Bernie is rare and has more political integrity than most:
Because he refuses to take dirty campaign financing once you do you sell your soul.
And he means what he says today as much as he did 40 years ago… Too bad all his fellow politicians were never listening and the media has always blacked him out... America's great loss.
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How amazing -
How visionary he was!
How visionary he was!
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Indeed what I was about to write. It shows extraordinary vision as did his position and concerns about the Iraqi war and seeing through the lies and predicting the outcome and middle east mess.
He IS a visionary and possesses an extraordinary commitment to a set of principles that benefit the middle-class and poor. He adheres to these and does not compromise for political expediency, as in, he is not concerned with obtaining power except to further his primary goals...what's best for the people and this earth.
It would take decades to achieve his progressive goals but it is past time to get the oligarchs to free the increasing choke hold on what's left of our democracy.
Do you need evidence that something is amiss and that for a more secure future for all of us things must swing back toward the center and left, the middle class needs to be stronger than it is economically.
Evidence: The angry increasingly violent crowd on the right and its leaders are heading toward fascism directed by, controlled by those with roots in fascism like the sociopathic Koch Brothers, which direction does America head? The oligarchs have/are pushing the people too far.
He IS a visionary and possesses an extraordinary commitment to a set of principles that benefit the middle-class and poor. He adheres to these and does not compromise for political expediency, as in, he is not concerned with obtaining power except to further his primary goals...what's best for the people and this earth.
It would take decades to achieve his progressive goals but it is past time to get the oligarchs to free the increasing choke hold on what's left of our democracy.
Do you need evidence that something is amiss and that for a more secure future for all of us things must swing back toward the center and left, the middle class needs to be stronger than it is economically.
Evidence: The angry increasingly violent crowd on the right and its leaders are heading toward fascism directed by, controlled by those with roots in fascism like the sociopathic Koch Brothers, which direction does America head? The oligarchs have/are pushing the people too far.
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I suggest all the comfortable people supporting Bernie's revolution avail themselves of the tax calculator at www.vox.com which shows how all of the candidate's tax plans will affect you. Not the millionaires and billionaires, but you. Bernie is prescribing a lot of pain for the middle class.
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@Olivia, My taxes are expected to go up significantly based on this calculator. I do not know how good the calculator is in predicting the effects of candidates' policies. But I do not mind paying for better education, healthcare and real power for our future generations. I prefer paying for these causes, rather than for the wars that the hawks on both sides advocate.
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Thank you, Olivia. I haven't read through all the comments yet, but yours seems it will be the only refreshing dose of sanity.
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I do not have to look at your calculator Olivia.
I average about$75K annually - it varies, I work on contract. And in a union where my health insurance and retirement are paid.
I am quite happy to pay more in taxes - and lose employer paid benefits - so that EVERY ONE of my fellow Americans gets education, healthcare and retirement.
A big problem is that too many Democrats become Republicans at tax time. There are a deductions I could take but don't because I simply do not feel the need to strip every GD dollar back.
How about you?
I average about$75K annually - it varies, I work on contract. And in a union where my health insurance and retirement are paid.
I am quite happy to pay more in taxes - and lose employer paid benefits - so that EVERY ONE of my fellow Americans gets education, healthcare and retirement.
A big problem is that too many Democrats become Republicans at tax time. There are a deductions I could take but don't because I simply do not feel the need to strip every GD dollar back.
How about you?
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Yes, Bernie Sanders has been singing the same song for 40 years. But nobody knew about it till he burst forth on the political firmament like a comet in 2015. And even then he was virtually ignored by the media till he started winning and could not be ignored anymore. What is so very wrong with his ideas? We can spend trillions of dollars on unwinnable wars but we cannot find enough funds for a living wage for working-class Americans, or for free college education for all, and definitely not for health care for all Americans. How can you even have these socialist dreams? No, let our country turn into an Elysium for the select few while the shape-shifters con the rest of us into believing that the status quo is always better than fighting to achieve your dreams.
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He's six years older than Reagan was. Where are the "old age" complainers (D) now?
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Oh, I think those who paid attention were aware of Sanders for a long time, but the mainstream press and tv media reported him as a cranky eccentric with little national support, so they didn't take him seriously.
His success in building a strong challenge to Clinton in this primary season has changed all that -- his ideas are being taken seriously in the Democratic party.
He has virtually no chance, at this point, of claiming the nomination, but his campaign hasn't been a failure. Even Clinton Democrats owe him a debt of gratitude for helping move the party closer to its historical roots as the party of FDR
His success in building a strong challenge to Clinton in this primary season has changed all that -- his ideas are being taken seriously in the Democratic party.
He has virtually no chance, at this point, of claiming the nomination, but his campaign hasn't been a failure. Even Clinton Democrats owe him a debt of gratitude for helping move the party closer to its historical roots as the party of FDR
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For 40 years, Sanders has had the same message. Is this the sign of an effective leader? Leadership veterans know that creating change is monumentally difficult and requires compromise and negotiation. It needs the wisdom and patience that come with accepting modification in the place of revolution. Do revolutions work? Sometimes, but every revolution has had its price. Even our own American Revolution required moral compromise (i.e. slavery) that shocks us today. Yet, as we recognize how diverse and even limited we are as a people, shall we accept those compromises in the name of moving forward? Perhaps Sanders needs to consider that if he, in fact, wants to be POTUS.
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What nonsense - Sander should consider flip flopping more if he wants to be POTUS. People say the darndest things.
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You put the trendy label "flip-flopping" on the routine compromises and negotiations that have defined and allowed political progress between competing points of view for 240 years. Funny – so do the Republicans, whose flat rejection of compromise, negotiation and engagement has brought DC and the nation to a standstill for 8 years – as would Sanders, in the unlikely event of a win.
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Sanders has worked effectively with Republicans and Democrats over 26 years in Congress. While he has hewed to his core principles, he is no stranger to compromise. Bernie Sanders is an astute politician.
Feel the Bern.
Feel the Bern.
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Could we see a Clinton - Sanders ticket in November. If Hillary wins the nomination, who else could she pick as a running mate that would bring more voters to the ticket?
I support Clinton, in part, because she has vast experience and in part become she can become the first woman president. But what she lacks is Chutpah. Sanders has the Chutzpah.
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I support Clinton, in part, because she has vast experience and in part become she can become the first woman president. But what she lacks is Chutpah. Sanders has the Chutzpah.
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No, we cannot see a combined ticket
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I agree, no combined ticket.
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Harry, I agree with you. Hillary' chance of winning presidency is far greater if he were to choose Bernie as the VP choice, assuming she would win the nomination. He's a little old, will be 75 in Sep. But he is quite healthy and quite alert with a clear mind, also quite articulate.
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Last night, Bernie Sanders came to Yakima, Washington for a pre-caucus rally. The Yakima Herald-Republic newspaper has for years been self-consciously and deliberately "conservative" and unabashedly Republican in editorial content and endorsements, but did send a reporter and photographer to cover the event.
You say you want a revolution? Today's print edition front page top fold headline reads: "Sanders Electrifies SunDome"
You say you want a revolution? Today's print edition front page top fold headline reads: "Sanders Electrifies SunDome"
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The NYT reporters too often seem to research & write up on Sanders campaign, election day poll issues (Arizona, for ex) either from the comfort of their NYC offices or maybe in their pjs working "remote from home" while doing internet & phone research. How else to explain the lame coverage of anything not pertaining to their endorsed candidate?
Hard to be timely or capture the mood on the ground if you don't get out there. For ex, NYT report on Arizona election issues was day late and titled "Angry Arizona voters", when what happened is that voting rights were denied. Good for the Yakima Herald-Republican for reporting on the ground.
Hard to be timely or capture the mood on the ground if you don't get out there. For ex, NYT report on Arizona election issues was day late and titled "Angry Arizona voters", when what happened is that voting rights were denied. Good for the Yakima Herald-Republican for reporting on the ground.
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Thanks for the report from Yakima. It's good to read that the Yakima Herald-Republic had the integrity to cover Sanders' rally fairly, even though the paper doesn't support him.
That's much better than what we're seeing in the New York Times, which continues to ignore, disparage or downplay Senator Sanders and his campaign.
That's much better than what we're seeing in the New York Times, which continues to ignore, disparage or downplay Senator Sanders and his campaign.
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Yeah, and if I were in the middle of nowhere, anyone flapping arms would entertaining. That's his sales pitch.
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th flood of money is THE problem in american politics, and bernie is th only candidate who seems interested in really doing something about
if indeed anything can be done at this late date
if indeed anything can be done at this late date
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What's interesting to me is that Sanders was complaining about today's problems before they existed. When Sanders was complaining about the 1 1/2 % in 1971 we still had a pretty robust middle class, college was affordable, unions still had a fair amount of power, inequality was way less than it is now. When he complained about corporations in politics it was decades before Citizens United or super pacs. That might mean he was prescient. But it also might mean that he really doesn't have the insight about current problems that his supporters think. Maybe he's more like a broken clock that is right twice a day.
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That just goes to show you that the problems have become even worse, not that they didn't exist back years ago.
At least you're able to recognize that they exist now.
At least you're able to recognize that they exist now.
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Sophie,
Any force of any size is a much needed breath of fresh air.
Let of give our compatriots a real alternative. It's long past time.
Any force of any size is a much needed breath of fresh air.
Let of give our compatriots a real alternative. It's long past time.
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No I feel you're looking at this wrong, just because the gap wasn't as large didn't mean it wasn't something to be worried about, you could also argue that he could see where it would all lead. Decades ago you could still see that parties were run by elites. Christ look at the Reagan fiasco with the AIDs epidemic, you literally had the people in control of the country caught laughing about the whole thing as it happened. I think he probably saw a lot of the dirty politics by being close to it, we only hear about it these days because of the advent of the internet.
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If Bernie Sanders becomes President, at the very least we will get an answer to an old paradox: What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
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Adam Joyce for VP! Or maybe Homeland Security??
Surely if (when) Bernie becomes President, we will also have more Democrats in office? That part should be easy, if Bernie's campaign has done what it's done so far. Bernie & Friends 2016.
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Yeah, I may disagree with a few of his policies, but I really respect that his strategy for campaigning/governing is basically to inspire people to participate in government.
It's funny, most other Democrats I know think that HRC will get things done, but they disagree with her policies, and that Bernie has great ideas, but he won't get anything done. I'm starting to think the opposite. I think HRC will try to do smart things and get stonewalled, whereas Bernie will get things passed that (I personally think) are a bit misguided.
(HR- I graciously accept your nomination for VP, and I look forward to the challenges that the office will bring!)
It's funny, most other Democrats I know think that HRC will get things done, but they disagree with her policies, and that Bernie has great ideas, but he won't get anything done. I'm starting to think the opposite. I think HRC will try to do smart things and get stonewalled, whereas Bernie will get things passed that (I personally think) are a bit misguided.
(HR- I graciously accept your nomination for VP, and I look forward to the challenges that the office will bring!)
Thank you NYT for reporting about Bernie Sanders for a change.
But you had to get your digs in by quoting a professor, a political psychologist, who states that because Bernie appears not to game the system, not to custom tailor his each and every remark, that he is 'peculiar,". ???....
What an absolute outrage.
If any candidates are deserving of a page 1 analysis by a 'political psychologist,' look no further than Trump and Cruz and their spousal spat.
But you had to get your digs in by quoting a professor, a political psychologist, who states that because Bernie appears not to game the system, not to custom tailor his each and every remark, that he is 'peculiar,". ???....
What an absolute outrage.
If any candidates are deserving of a page 1 analysis by a 'political psychologist,' look no further than Trump and Cruz and their spousal spat.
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NNS, I believe this use of 'peculiar' means more like idiosyncratic & iconoclastic & is not meant as a put-down. I say this as one of those who canceled and has just a few more days to comment. Indeed, Horowitz's ability to himself present a balanced depiction of Sanders' balance, noticing the clarity and the fact that his honing his speeches to different locales is not pandering but varying his (supposedly one-note anyway) theme. THIS is the Times I grew up with in the 60s. Thank you. May get back to you, NYT, if all goes well at election time.
Let's see...Bernie grows up in Brooklyn, as diverse a culture as there is in America, even though his high school is mostly white when he goes to it.
He leaves his diverse borough in Brooklyn for Vermont, which to this day is almost all-white. There's not much revolution in Vermont - it's homogenous in a way that very few states in the union are any more.
Then he says " are you tired of a handful of billionaires running our economy?" Well, Bernie, you're the one who is a senator and assuming it's true - what legislation did you enact to prevent this? And if you didn't do it as a senator, how the heck are you going to do it as the President?
Vermont makes Westchester look like diversity central. What I don't get is how a guy who ran away from a multi-cultural city for a lily white stateburb is seen as a populist for everybody. It's not true. It's not even borderline not true.
He leaves his diverse borough in Brooklyn for Vermont, which to this day is almost all-white. There's not much revolution in Vermont - it's homogenous in a way that very few states in the union are any more.
Then he says " are you tired of a handful of billionaires running our economy?" Well, Bernie, you're the one who is a senator and assuming it's true - what legislation did you enact to prevent this? And if you didn't do it as a senator, how the heck are you going to do it as the President?
Vermont makes Westchester look like diversity central. What I don't get is how a guy who ran away from a multi-cultural city for a lily white stateburb is seen as a populist for everybody. It's not true. It's not even borderline not true.
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So what specific policies do you disagree with that Bernie advocates?
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Because the majority of people are struggling financially. As time passes this majority only increases because of inflation from college prices to rent prices yet minimum wage stays the same, health care is difficult to pay for and on top of that, GOP wants to cut taxes that fund schools, hospitals, public transportation etc which we all use. Sounds like a crumbling country to me.
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His role is not that of "a populist." His role is to be a representative of the people. Maybe he doesn't represent you, and that's fine. But he absolutely does represent working people, be they white, Black, Asian American, Latino, Native American and every other race. He's not representing his race, or his religion, or his gender. But he does represent his class. And what does that mean in today's terms? The most-often used metaphor today is that he represents the 99% over the 1%, and that as president he would pass legislation to force the wealthy to pay their fair share and to stop interfering in our politics with their money. A lot of people believe that view is just ignored in Washington, and that's why so many people are coming out to vote for him.
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"...Bernie Sanders Consistent Over Decades in His Call for ‘Revolution’..."
Sanders, a career politician, has indeed been 'consistent' for decades, but what actually has he accomplished? Elected to Congress in 1990, has had 26 years (!) to convince his colleagues to get his 'Revolution' started, yet out of 781 bills he has sponsored, he got three bills passed. Three. And two of them were about renaming post offices in his home state of Vermont.
Sure, he seems like a nice guy, an honest man, but for someone who is so eloquent in framing his proposals, why haven't more of them become law? Why has he convinced none of his colleagues to join him in his 'Revolution' in all these years?
And if he is elected President and Congress does not magically turning Blue (it won't)? He would face the kind of obstructionism that Obama could only dream of and nothing, not one thing, on his platform will be accomplished.
Politics is a mean dirty nasty business and there is no place in it for a 'nice guy'. All that will happen is those Sanders votes, just like all those Nader votes, will help put Trump in the White House for eight years.
Get real, people.
Sanders, a career politician, has indeed been 'consistent' for decades, but what actually has he accomplished? Elected to Congress in 1990, has had 26 years (!) to convince his colleagues to get his 'Revolution' started, yet out of 781 bills he has sponsored, he got three bills passed. Three. And two of them were about renaming post offices in his home state of Vermont.
Sure, he seems like a nice guy, an honest man, but for someone who is so eloquent in framing his proposals, why haven't more of them become law? Why has he convinced none of his colleagues to join him in his 'Revolution' in all these years?
And if he is elected President and Congress does not magically turning Blue (it won't)? He would face the kind of obstructionism that Obama could only dream of and nothing, not one thing, on his platform will be accomplished.
Politics is a mean dirty nasty business and there is no place in it for a 'nice guy'. All that will happen is those Sanders votes, just like all those Nader votes, will help put Trump in the White House for eight years.
Get real, people.
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Shouldn't this kind of comment be fact-checked?
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You're right. It's like congress doesn't even exist to his supporters.
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Because greed is an extremely powerful short term drive. Sanders does have a few of his colleagues who support him and even some of them I fear are doing it cynically, because they see what the young voters want, rather than really believing in the message. The fundamental issue is whether you agree with the message.
Clinton will also face the same kind of obstructionism as Obama. Sanders has worked across the aisle. And he has been productive---google it.
If winning in politics means being the nastiest and meanest fighter, then Trump is ahead of everyone else, and perhaps he deserves to win, and the country deserves what it gets. I don't want this to happen but I don't think voting for Sanders is what is going to cause this. If the Democratic party can't field good enough alternatives to Trump, then they deserve to lose.
Clinton will also face the same kind of obstructionism as Obama. Sanders has worked across the aisle. And he has been productive---google it.
If winning in politics means being the nastiest and meanest fighter, then Trump is ahead of everyone else, and perhaps he deserves to win, and the country deserves what it gets. I don't want this to happen but I don't think voting for Sanders is what is going to cause this. If the Democratic party can't field good enough alternatives to Trump, then they deserve to lose.
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The last time I voted for a presidential candidate was for Jimmy Carter. I recently registered as a Democrat just so I can vote for Bernie in the primary. My daughter did the same and so did my brother who has never voted in his whole life. I was surprised when a friend at work told me she also registered as a Democrat just to vote for Bernie. I'm too skeptical about the electoral process to believe it will make a difference but hey, worth a try. If it turns out to be Hillary, I'll just stay home. I live in New York so it doesn't matter if I vote or not.
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What a truly sad statement. To be so divorced from the needs and concerns of your fellow citizens, so inordinantly privileged that you can abstain from voting. You are exactly why I am voting for whomever wins the Democratic nomination, to protect others from your utter selfishness.
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I just changed my party registration to vote for Bernie in April. Hope others will do the same.
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What she means is that NY will go blue no matter what in the general election, so she doesn't have to betray her conscience and vote for Hillary. I feel the same way and I'm in Illinois. So, don't get up on your high horse. You don't need to protect anyone.
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Mr. Sanders is a one-issue candidate - not what we need in 2016.
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Yes, "one issue" - but *what* an issue!
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Your sound bite is completely false, and why the label low-information voter gets thrown around Clinton supporters. Tell me what this one issue is. Is it regarding regulation of banks? Devastating trade agreements? Crime bill laws which need to be overturned? Decreasing military spending? Increasing Veteran healthcare benefits and medical facilities? Protecting women's rights? Black civil rights? Universal healthcare? Protecting social security? Affordable college tuition? Making the wealthy and corporations pay their fair share of taxes? Getting rid of the private prison system? Programs to help the poor? An amendment for Citizens United? to name a few.
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In fact, his site has his positions on Iraq and the Middle East in general, and his remarks are Brussels were reported, though not in this paper.
And yes, what an issue--because it has ramifications for all the other issues. Wasn't it another Clinton whose mantra was, It's the economy, stupid?
Didn't he win partly on that?
And yes, what an issue--because it has ramifications for all the other issues. Wasn't it another Clinton whose mantra was, It's the economy, stupid?
Didn't he win partly on that?
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In other words, he's honest and clear about his core beliefs and has been consistent throughout his long career as a public servant in tirelessly working to translate these decent beliefs into a decent life for poor, working and disempowered peoples (that includes you unless you're in the 1%).
Sounds good to me. New York: help elect this good man President on April 19th!
Sounds good to me. New York: help elect this good man President on April 19th!
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His kind destroys jobs -- Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela. Sad, depressing, and actionable.
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The kind of revolution that will genuinely make a dent in income inequality is for people to organize their workplaces and demand higher wages and benefits. I don't see Senator Sanders' young followers doing that and he can't do it for him.
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Didn't know it was so easy. For the last 35 years, I guess people were just so happy and comfortable with their stagnated wages and climbing debt.
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But he's telling his supporters that that's what he needs to keep the fight going, and that is what he expects. And certainly one can't generalize about ALL Sanders young (and older!) voters not continuing their activism. And do you we Bernie supporters emerged from a vacuum? Many of us have been active, in small ways and large, and of course will continue to lobby our congress people on many issues.
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Be real hard for Trump operators to come up with flipflop tapes eh?
Big plus, no?
Sad after 40 years he still describes how it all really works.
Hillary is happy, like thr establishment rest- Dem or Gop- to keep the gravy train a chuggin' along
Which ought to be at the top of page 1 everyday
Big plus, no?
Sad after 40 years he still describes how it all really works.
Hillary is happy, like thr establishment rest- Dem or Gop- to keep the gravy train a chuggin' along
Which ought to be at the top of page 1 everyday
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Mr. Sanders has been the canary in the coal mine. He was speaking about problems, which most Americans ignored, in addition to politicians. Completely ignored by his critics; but, only recently discovered in this election cycle.
Mr. Sanders, has never deviated from his message. He has not have to remake himself. He has not participated in debates which resembled bar room brawls. What he has done is get those, have paid attention, that there are serious problems in this country that rhetoric is not going to fix.
Since 1979, the year where Americans achieved the highest wage adjusted for inflation, Americans have seen their wages drop. They have seen the rich get richer. They have seen good paying jobs; gone They have seen housing costs sky rocket. And, they have seen CEO compensation go hundreds of times that of an average wage earner wage. They have seen their politicians serving themselves and powerful special interests; and not the interests of the American people.
So, Mr. Sanders message offers genuine hope. Compared to Ms. Clinton "status quo" or the GOP message of tax cuts, so called "entitlement" cuts, broader trade, more war and smaller government (except the Pentagon) is the answer.
The article proves, that Mr. Sanders has had a consistent message for decades. And finally, millions of people are now listening. And, they are ready for the "revolution". Mr. Sanders may be the only one standing in the way of continue decline.
Mr. Sanders, has never deviated from his message. He has not have to remake himself. He has not participated in debates which resembled bar room brawls. What he has done is get those, have paid attention, that there are serious problems in this country that rhetoric is not going to fix.
Since 1979, the year where Americans achieved the highest wage adjusted for inflation, Americans have seen their wages drop. They have seen the rich get richer. They have seen good paying jobs; gone They have seen housing costs sky rocket. And, they have seen CEO compensation go hundreds of times that of an average wage earner wage. They have seen their politicians serving themselves and powerful special interests; and not the interests of the American people.
So, Mr. Sanders message offers genuine hope. Compared to Ms. Clinton "status quo" or the GOP message of tax cuts, so called "entitlement" cuts, broader trade, more war and smaller government (except the Pentagon) is the answer.
The article proves, that Mr. Sanders has had a consistent message for decades. And finally, millions of people are now listening. And, they are ready for the "revolution". Mr. Sanders may be the only one standing in the way of continue decline.
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It's been a problem for at least 40 years and only getting worse. At least Mr Sanders understands the problems with our country. Boughten politicians are not good for the 99%.
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And now, by opening the comments section, bring on the angry Sanders supporters. First the Times was ignoring their candidate, now this will be called a hit piece- merely by pointing out a fact- that this is an individual who's world view has not evolved in 40 years. Somehow, this retrograde individual who was not a member of the Democratic party until this past year, and has won exactly ONE primary this year that was not open to non-Democrats and was conducted by secret ballot, deserves to be the Democratic nominee for president. C'mon let's hear how Hillary voted for the Iraq war (not for the incompetent manner in which it was prosecuted), made a very good living giving speeches, and committed the horror of wanting to carry one blackberry instead of two. Let's ignore how Sanders voted against gun control (because the bill wasn't perfect) and against saving the auto industry (because the bill wasn't perfect) and voted against immigration reform (because the bill wasn't perfect). His accomplishments consist of leading exactly three pieces of legislation in 26 years in congress- two bills to rename post offices, and one to repair the VA system after it imploded on his watch as minority leader on the VA committee. Sorry folks, we don't live in that world and never will, no matter how vitriolic your posts. We're listening......
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I too thought that compromise was a dirty word until I was actually in a position of power - then I LEARNED that in numerous circumstances compromise is a NECESSITY. I can see no reason to believe that that would not be the case with Bernie. If he was not intelligent I might believe otherwise, but he IS intelligent. I would suggest that he is 1,000 times more likely to appoint Elizabeth Warren as Secretary of the Treasure than President Clinton the Second. Actually 10,000 times.
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You're just way off base with most of this:
A. Bernie Sanders' appeal to voters beyond the Democratic Party is one of his STRENGTHS, not something to attack. The Democrats need Independents more than the GOP does and Sanders delivers those.
B. It's not that Hillary Clinton made a very good living giving speeches, it's that she claims an intent to seriously reform Wall Street while receiving tens of millions of dollars from them, including millions for speeches. If there is nothing inconsistent between the speeches and the message she's selling on the campaign, why the reluctance to make the speeches public?
C. The vast majority of Sanders supporters don't care even a little bit about the email issue. The only thing we care about is what the email issue may reveal about the Clinton Foundation's dealings with the State Department. There is credible evidence that suggests countries that donated money received favorable dealings from State. That SHOULD be investigated to determine if anything improper happened.
D. Bernie Sanders, The Amendment King, look it up.
E. Most Sanders supporters will tell you he is not perfect. Most will tell you he should've compromised more at some point in his past. Most will tell you he could improve his message, ease off the arrogance, etc. Given the field of candidates, his imperfections pale to near invisibility compared to those of Clinton and the others.
A. Bernie Sanders' appeal to voters beyond the Democratic Party is one of his STRENGTHS, not something to attack. The Democrats need Independents more than the GOP does and Sanders delivers those.
B. It's not that Hillary Clinton made a very good living giving speeches, it's that she claims an intent to seriously reform Wall Street while receiving tens of millions of dollars from them, including millions for speeches. If there is nothing inconsistent between the speeches and the message she's selling on the campaign, why the reluctance to make the speeches public?
C. The vast majority of Sanders supporters don't care even a little bit about the email issue. The only thing we care about is what the email issue may reveal about the Clinton Foundation's dealings with the State Department. There is credible evidence that suggests countries that donated money received favorable dealings from State. That SHOULD be investigated to determine if anything improper happened.
D. Bernie Sanders, The Amendment King, look it up.
E. Most Sanders supporters will tell you he is not perfect. Most will tell you he should've compromised more at some point in his past. Most will tell you he could improve his message, ease off the arrogance, etc. Given the field of candidates, his imperfections pale to near invisibility compared to those of Clinton and the others.
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Well, as far as economic policy is concerned, what has changed over the past 40 years, except to get worse for the poor and middle class? Yes, let's all vote for Hillary. She's all about changing the status quo.
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Thomas Picketty's book "Capital in the 21st century" shows abundantly that the problem of inequality has become much worse during the last 35 years. Now wonder Sanders did not change his message during all these years. In Europe, working classes increasingly vote for nationalist parties that promise socialist economic solutions. That's bad news for people that believe in democracy. In Germany, all centrist parties together did have less than 50% of the votes in 1934.
If nothing of the kind Sander proposes is being done, history may repeat itself.
If nothing of the kind Sander proposes is being done, history may repeat itself.
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Nice to see a bit of Bernie coverage, for a change, Jason. Something that would have been a fair endeavor some months earlier. I can see Sanders as an
effective president, I can see Eliz. Warren on the ticket with him. This
would be the winning team that would initiate addressing the basic problems:
money in politics and bank regulators who have teeth along with the
appropriations to do their jobs. Sanders would pick his cabinet and it
wouldn't be dictated by wealthy donors but in the best interests of the
regular citizens who have supported him. I don't think its called dreaming...it is possible, not easy, but possible.
effective president, I can see Eliz. Warren on the ticket with him. This
would be the winning team that would initiate addressing the basic problems:
money in politics and bank regulators who have teeth along with the
appropriations to do their jobs. Sanders would pick his cabinet and it
wouldn't be dictated by wealthy donors but in the best interests of the
regular citizens who have supported him. I don't think its called dreaming...it is possible, not easy, but possible.
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Bernie will not be on the ticket, though, as P or VP
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please do NOT hope for a Sanders-Warren ticket. In the first place it would be the oldest ticket in history (he 74. she 67); in the second place Warren would be TEN TIMES better than anyone else as Secretary of the Treasury; and third she would be too old to run for the presidency herself in 2020. IMO the ideal ticket will be Bernie and a highest-possible-quality woman younger than 50. THAT would be irresistible, surely.
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bernie sanders wont be president, and it will be americas loss
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Bernie never explains how as president he can prevail over a GOP congress which detests his ideas.
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Neither does Hillary, and according to her, the republicans hate her. Unless she is lying about that too.
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Nope, she's not naive enough to call for a "revolution" from a GOP congress that considers, for example, Medicare Communism.
She is realistic.
She is realistic.
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Has Hillary Clinton explained how, as President, she can prevail over a GOP congress which detests her ideas, her personally, the family she represents and the party she embodies?
Neither candidate should have to explain that b/c it's inexplicable. You can't force a group of people to behave reasonably.
Neither candidate should have to explain that b/c it's inexplicable. You can't force a group of people to behave reasonably.
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Bernie is exposing the fraud called the Democratic party, which for 2 decades has cried out that if only more Democrats were elected, they could actually make real change. The mainstream attacks against Bernie's policies reveal the Democratic party's real constituency--the rich and powerful. The Democratic party is awash in money and has no interest in small donors or policies that offend its donor class.
It's pretty simple. If you like the status quo, you vote for Hillary because your interests align with those of The Street and corporations. You really don't care she is bought and paid for. If you want real change, you will vote for Bernie.
Now wait for the Hillary supporters to respond-- 3, 2, 1--"there is no way Sanders will ever get any of this policies passed." Spoken like a true Democrat who believes nothing will ever change. A self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's pretty simple. If you like the status quo, you vote for Hillary because your interests align with those of The Street and corporations. You really don't care she is bought and paid for. If you want real change, you will vote for Bernie.
Now wait for the Hillary supporters to respond-- 3, 2, 1--"there is no way Sanders will ever get any of this policies passed." Spoken like a true Democrat who believes nothing will ever change. A self-fulfilling prophecy.
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bernie will have a hard time getting his policies passed, but they are GOOD policies
hrc will have no problem getting her lousy policies passed
hrc will have no problem getting her lousy policies passed
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Every Democrat in the Senate voted for the Disclose Act and other bills designed to overturn Citizens United. Every Republican in the Senate blocked them. All the Republicans on the Supreme Court voted for Citizens United, all the Democrats on the Supreme Court opposed it. Bill Clinton appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Bush appointed Alito.
It is absolutely true that if you elect more Democrats we could make real change-- but we do have to elect a lot more Democrats.
It is absolutely true that if you elect more Democrats we could make real change-- but we do have to elect a lot more Democrats.
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Wow. The Democratc Party passed health care reform, financial regulatory reforms saved the aut industry and saved the econmy.
Has fought for equal rights for all for decades. Has passed voting rights, women's rights and gay rights laws.
Has fought for environmental protections, passed environmental laws. Dough climate change, prompted renewable energy
Has passed bills increasing spending on child nutrition and safety and health and education and transportation
While Sanders has ... renamed post offices.
Has fought for equal rights for all for decades. Has passed voting rights, women's rights and gay rights laws.
Has fought for environmental protections, passed environmental laws. Dough climate change, prompted renewable energy
Has passed bills increasing spending on child nutrition and safety and health and education and transportation
While Sanders has ... renamed post offices.
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Hmmm...interesting article. Perhaps Bernie should follow all the great leaders in history by consistently changing his message. Oh wait, none of them did.
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Ah, Mr. Pisanic, I detect a bit of sarcasm. That's my job.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." ["Essays on Self Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson"]
Now, all we have left to decide is whether Mr. Sanders is engaging in the foolish. I really don't know. But, whatever we have here in America has worked fairly well for me over the almost last 7 decades, so I may not qualify to judge.
Young People may have to decide this one. Hope they're right.
(On final approach for Birthday #69, and I'm chuckling)
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." ["Essays on Self Reliance, Ralph Waldo Emerson"]
Now, all we have left to decide is whether Mr. Sanders is engaging in the foolish. I really don't know. But, whatever we have here in America has worked fairly well for me over the almost last 7 decades, so I may not qualify to judge.
Young People may have to decide this one. Hope they're right.
(On final approach for Birthday #69, and I'm chuckling)
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Well, except for Lincoln, Roosevelt, Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson and Clinton (Bill). There's some value in reading more history and less twitter.
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You first need to win power, to then exercise power.
Quixotic pursuits from the fringes accomplish nothing.
Quixotic pursuits from the fringes accomplish nothing.
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you have it backward
trying th same things again and again which havent worked is insanity, as a smart man once remarked
trying th same things again and again which havent worked is insanity, as a smart man once remarked
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A great place to start is at the top!
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To Baron95 who said, "You first need to win power, to then exercise power":
Not when the power is with the people, as Senator Sanders believes with all his being. Then, it is a question of empowering the electorate with energy and information. It's called democracy.
Not when the power is with the people, as Senator Sanders believes with all his being. Then, it is a question of empowering the electorate with energy and information. It's called democracy.
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A good start of the week for Mr. Sanders as his campaign has reduced the deficit in pledged delegates to under 300 with even more favorable states ahead. His latest numbers reflect a new milestone being within 5% of Mrs. Clinton, and trending even closer. Mr. Sanders consistantly polls better against all three Republican hopefuls giving the Democrats the best advantage in retaining the White House. His legislative record and bi-partisan acheivements are superior to any other candidate from either party.
His voice in this election cycle has given hope that the many can compete with the few.
His voice in this election cycle has given hope that the many can compete with the few.
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"Hope that the many can compete with the few"? Several million more people have voted for Clinton than have voted for Sandrrs. "The many" are Clinton supporters.
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A little more election geeking. After the past primary/caucuses Sanders has 920 pledged delegates while Clinton has 1,223. There are a total of 4,051, so 2,026 is 50% + 1.
As of today, Sanders needs to win 1,106 of the remaining 1,908 in order to get to 2,026 - that is 57.9% of them. Clinton needs 803 to get to a majority, or 42.1% of the remaining ones.
I think Sanders is going to have a very, very excellent day tomorrow, when 142 delegates are selected in three states. Let's say he wins the 3 states by a 70-30 margin. That would be really big.
Then he would have 1,020 pledged delegates and Clinton would have 1,265. At that point, Sanders would need 56.9% of the remaining pledged delegates and Clinton would need 43.1% of the remaining ones.
Still a pretty steep uphill climb for Senator Sanders.
As of today, Sanders needs to win 1,106 of the remaining 1,908 in order to get to 2,026 - that is 57.9% of them. Clinton needs 803 to get to a majority, or 42.1% of the remaining ones.
I think Sanders is going to have a very, very excellent day tomorrow, when 142 delegates are selected in three states. Let's say he wins the 3 states by a 70-30 margin. That would be really big.
Then he would have 1,020 pledged delegates and Clinton would have 1,265. At that point, Sanders would need 56.9% of the remaining pledged delegates and Clinton would need 43.1% of the remaining ones.
Still a pretty steep uphill climb for Senator Sanders.
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It's the same tune, because what exists in American politics is the same reality that existed before, only worse now since no one has heeded his message. That's why the SAME beliefs he's had for 25yrs in politics ARE STILL RELEVANT to today's political climate.
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Vermont is 94% white and yet still very poor.
Why would anyone think that a lifetime politician who cannot even advocate for his own state do anything more than talk a good talk?
Why would anyone think that a lifetime politician who cannot even advocate for his own state do anything more than talk a good talk?
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His national agenda is his focus, of which he was dubbed "The Amendment King" from 1997-2015 passing more amendments (a total of 86) than ANY other person in congress REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/...
Furthermore, in his home state of Vermont he got 86.1% of the vote...better than Bill's home state (Arkansas 66.3%) and waaaay more than Hillary's home state (Illinois 50.5%)
Guess they really hate him for the shabby job he's done there huh?
Furthermore, in his home state of Vermont he got 86.1% of the vote...better than Bill's home state (Arkansas 66.3%) and waaaay more than Hillary's home state (Illinois 50.5%)
Guess they really hate him for the shabby job he's done there huh?
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This piece could have been published long before Hillary had secured her comfortable lead. Was it too favorable, too soon?
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Yes, Sanders message has been unchanged for 30 years because the basic problem has been getting worse for 30 years.
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But don't worry, Hillary Clinton will work to change it.
After all, the status quo puts her and her family at a tremendous disadvantage.
After all, the status quo puts her and her family at a tremendous disadvantage.
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Got that right -- an old, cranky Socialist who did not have a steady income until age 40 (politician), from a far-distant cow-state.
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"That clarity has been critical to Mr. Sanders’s aura of authenticity and has attracted millions of young voters." - NYTimes
I know plenty of older people who has seen what's happened in the past 30 years and decided to vote for Bernie. It is misleading to keep reporting that only young voters support Bernie, who will be a major disruptive force in American politics.
I know plenty of older people who has seen what's happened in the past 30 years and decided to vote for Bernie. It is misleading to keep reporting that only young voters support Bernie, who will be a major disruptive force in American politics.
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