What this article shows is that the Democratic Party establishment, President Obama included, fundamentally do not believe in democracy. Trying to prevent those of us who live in California from voting our view on who should be the candidate is detestable. Obama's statements only show how he and the other the oligarchs think really about democracy from within their plutocratic bubble. Have they not heard a single speech made by Bernie Sanders during his 25 years in Congress? Donald Trump is not the only fascist running for nomination. This election is now down to 4 fascists and a socialist. While Trump is the most extreme in expressing his fascism, don't be fooled for even a second that Clinton too is a fascist candidate, she is just a neo-fascist or fascist-lite, because she (and Obama) have all the signs of fascist features, such as control by the corporate plutocracy, authoritarianism preferred to actual democratic process, militarism, etc. If Obama continues to pressure Sanders to stop giving the people someone to vote for, then that tactic will backfire and only increase the number of Sanders supporters who will not vote for Clinton. This Obama strategy means that the Democratic Party establishment is once again ready, willing, and able to betray the progressive wing of the party as "having nowhere else to go" as they pivot Clinton to the center to pander to the fiscally conservative but socially moderate Republican voters.
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There are Senators, members of the House of Representatives, Governors and others who have evaluated the candidates based on their experience working with them. These are the bulk of the Super Delegates who overwhelmingly chose Hillary over Sanders. Now the President is chiming in, in part, because he knows who is most qualified, and because he knows she needs to get started on the national campaign without getting stabbed in the back by other Democrats.
He doesn't have to drop out, just tone down his rhetoric attacking Hillary with his snarky subtle insults about her campaign donors. We all know he has courted the same donors when he spoke before $30,000 a plate fundraisers in Martha's Vineyard. Let us start to mend the party and move on to the next test of our strength.
He doesn't have to drop out, just tone down his rhetoric attacking Hillary with his snarky subtle insults about her campaign donors. We all know he has courted the same donors when he spoke before $30,000 a plate fundraisers in Martha's Vineyard. Let us start to mend the party and move on to the next test of our strength.
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Is it any wonder why people are angry and looking for a shake up? Trump is going to mangle her with the cold ugly truth.
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This whole Clinton-Obama endorsement situation reminds me of the Russian proverb: "One hand washes the other, and both are clean."
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If Obama thinks so highly of Hillary why didn't he choose her as his vice presidential running mate? His support of her is an anti-Bernie move. Hillary is more of the same big business big party political machine.
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I will be voting for Bernie Sanders in November. If his name is not on my ballot I will write it in. Hilary Clinton is not an option. Like many of Bernie Sander's supporters, we will not support a Wall Street/corporate harlot that takes donations from dictators guilty of human rights violations. It would be unconscionable. Bernie Sander's supporters know that what he has begun in a revolution against a rigged U.S. political system. Many of us will use our ballots as protest against the system....come what may.
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Jane for Truth California 1 hour ago
As I said last week, hear that sound? The sound of a Tsunami of barf heading straight for hrc...
Obama just set it off and this may be remembered as a MAJOR turning point confirming exactly what Bernie Sanders has steadfastly been trying to tell the American public for YEARS against all the establishment opposition he faces down in full force. Bernie for a long time senator, house rep., and mayor, lives a pretty humble life, what a back of steel never selling out while working in that corrupt cesspool. Not unlike other great leaders in history:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
As I said last week, hear that sound? The sound of a Tsunami of barf heading straight for hrc...
Obama just set it off and this may be remembered as a MAJOR turning point confirming exactly what Bernie Sanders has steadfastly been trying to tell the American public for YEARS against all the establishment opposition he faces down in full force. Bernie for a long time senator, house rep., and mayor, lives a pretty humble life, what a back of steel never selling out while working in that corrupt cesspool. Not unlike other great leaders in history:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
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Obama is telling "rich donors" to unite with Hillary even if she is not authentic claiming authenticity is no big deal?
Has anyone held a briefing with Obama explaining that this election season is about angry voters sick of rich donors buying elections and tired of unauthentic lip service politicians yet? Maybe it's time for that briefing..
BernieorBust
Has anyone held a briefing with Obama explaining that this election season is about angry voters sick of rich donors buying elections and tired of unauthentic lip service politicians yet? Maybe it's time for that briefing..
BernieorBust
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Bernie is a fraud. He's the "Prophet of False Hope." I call him a fraud because he knows he can't get any of his ideas through Congress. He calls for a political revolution--whatever that means. The fact remains that the republican presidential hopefuls have received more votes than Hillary and Bernie combined. So, how does this translate to a political revolution.
His ideas on taxing speculation on Wall Street make no sense. What is Wall Street speculation? Is it when a small investor buys or sells a stock once or twice a year? Is it when mutual funds buy and sell stocks? If it is, it will be a tax on everybody who owns mutual funds through a 401K, 529 plans, retirement plans for teachers, firemen, police, public sector employees, etc.
The leading economists in this country have said that the numbers for Bernie's "medicare for all" plan do not add up and would generate a HUUGE
deficit and/or that the middle class would see their taxes go up.
Notice he doesn't say she voted for all these bills. This is another instance of Bernie being disingenuous. Besides Bernie voted for NAFTA. I also take issue that all trade bills are bad. Trade bills can be fair and advantageous to all countries involved. I for one like eating fresh fruit in the winter which, by the way, come from our Latin American neighbors because of trade deals negotiated by President Clinton.
Bernie is using the democratic party to run for president to take advantage of our infrstructure.
His ideas on taxing speculation on Wall Street make no sense. What is Wall Street speculation? Is it when a small investor buys or sells a stock once or twice a year? Is it when mutual funds buy and sell stocks? If it is, it will be a tax on everybody who owns mutual funds through a 401K, 529 plans, retirement plans for teachers, firemen, police, public sector employees, etc.
The leading economists in this country have said that the numbers for Bernie's "medicare for all" plan do not add up and would generate a HUUGE
deficit and/or that the middle class would see their taxes go up.
Notice he doesn't say she voted for all these bills. This is another instance of Bernie being disingenuous. Besides Bernie voted for NAFTA. I also take issue that all trade bills are bad. Trade bills can be fair and advantageous to all countries involved. I for one like eating fresh fruit in the winter which, by the way, come from our Latin American neighbors because of trade deals negotiated by President Clinton.
Bernie is using the democratic party to run for president to take advantage of our infrstructure.
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Mike,
I respect you right to your opinion, and I disagree entirely with what you have said. The character limit will prevent a thorough explanation, but visit his site at https://berniesanders.com/issues/
The medicare for all plan is of course paid for by a tax, but that tax is inconsequential, in that the insured will be paying it out of the $10,000 to $18,000 minimum savings in premiums to Big Insurance.
How do I know this; I'm a retiree, receiving Medicare, not a handout, I paid for it in a payroll tax every year of my working life; now I pay annually a premium of less than $1,500, for all the coverage I need, except I pay an extra $22 per month for prescription coverage. Total annual cost less than $1,700
My wife, who is not at Medicare age, has a policy with Big Insurance, which we pay annually a premium of $18,000, with a $2,000 deductible. Are you aware that the ACA premiums are also at least $10,000 annually, and deductibles are $5,000 plus. So with ACA you have to cough up at least $5,000 before coverage kicks in.
Americans will save thousands upon thousands of dollars, even with paying the tax.
Please log onto https://berniesanders.com/issues/ to see detailed explanations of the rest of his very doable, and workable plans.
And the suggestion that our corrupt bought and paid for Congress will stop him is not true. That is because they will live in fear of the midterms, two of them, during a two term sanders Presidency; watch how quickly they fall in line.
I respect you right to your opinion, and I disagree entirely with what you have said. The character limit will prevent a thorough explanation, but visit his site at https://berniesanders.com/issues/
The medicare for all plan is of course paid for by a tax, but that tax is inconsequential, in that the insured will be paying it out of the $10,000 to $18,000 minimum savings in premiums to Big Insurance.
How do I know this; I'm a retiree, receiving Medicare, not a handout, I paid for it in a payroll tax every year of my working life; now I pay annually a premium of less than $1,500, for all the coverage I need, except I pay an extra $22 per month for prescription coverage. Total annual cost less than $1,700
My wife, who is not at Medicare age, has a policy with Big Insurance, which we pay annually a premium of $18,000, with a $2,000 deductible. Are you aware that the ACA premiums are also at least $10,000 annually, and deductibles are $5,000 plus. So with ACA you have to cough up at least $5,000 before coverage kicks in.
Americans will save thousands upon thousands of dollars, even with paying the tax.
Please log onto https://berniesanders.com/issues/ to see detailed explanations of the rest of his very doable, and workable plans.
And the suggestion that our corrupt bought and paid for Congress will stop him is not true. That is because they will live in fear of the midterms, two of them, during a two term sanders Presidency; watch how quickly they fall in line.
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It's not about policies or people, it's about your now worthless Democratic brand. Once we have seen the real Hillary, we can't unsee her. And many of us will never, ever vote for her.
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Dear Sir: With all due respect, your facts are wrong. First, if you truly do not understand what financial speculation is, you would do well to educate yourself. Second, taxing financial speculation does make sense, whether one supports it or not. The logic behind it is that it promotes stability over volatility, encourages productive investment over short-term speculation, and is a progressive tax, which can raise revenue for things society needs, like medicine, infrastructure, teachers, clean water, etc. Your concern that such a tax might hit whatever 401ks are left on the market is off the mark. The proposed tax is miniscule and only adds up on high volume trading. The medicare for all plan has been backed by a number of notable economists, to suggest that there is a consensus against it is false. Lastly, Sanders voted against NAFTA. Your assertion that he did not is false.
I do believe there are many legitimate criticisms of Sanders to be leveled. However, you have not articulated any.
We can agree that turnout in the primaries has been higher for the GOP than the dems. Still, NY and CA and many other states are yet to vote, so we'll just have to wait and see on that one. Good day.
I do believe there are many legitimate criticisms of Sanders to be leveled. However, you have not articulated any.
We can agree that turnout in the primaries has been higher for the GOP than the dems. Still, NY and CA and many other states are yet to vote, so we'll just have to wait and see on that one. Good day.
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If Clinton does ultimately win the nomination and the presidency, we must hold her feet to the fire, making sure she does not dim her "epiphany" that she is a progressive. She already seems to be walking back her opposition to the TPP (in its current form), a race-to-the-bottom trade deal like NAFTA and the Korean Free Trade Agreement that Obama ushered through. (He has been a disappointment to progressives on many fronts.
We must make sure she does not maintain a regime change-friendly foreign policy as she carried out in Libya and in Honduras where she worked to
legitimize an armed coup of a democratically-elected leader. These actions have had disastrous consequences for both countries.
And her statements about "working with governors" to establish a public option to Obamacare in states must not go unremembered. Obamacare
without the public option was a huge giveaway to private insurance companies, even with its few positives.
We must make sure she does not maintain a regime change-friendly foreign policy as she carried out in Libya and in Honduras where she worked to
legitimize an armed coup of a democratically-elected leader. These actions have had disastrous consequences for both countries.
And her statements about "working with governors" to establish a public option to Obamacare in states must not go unremembered. Obamacare
without the public option was a huge giveaway to private insurance companies, even with its few positives.
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This article is misleading. The White House just corrrected the story: The POTUS remains in his NEUTRAL POSITION!!!
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Oh, he retracted in public a comment he made in private. Cool. That should fix it.
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@Hanu: The $150,000,000+ that she and Bill have "earned" in speaking fees should tell you all you need to know about the "humble servant of the people," Hillary Clinton. That, and the shady dealings of the Clinton Foundation.
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Robert, sadly it isn't. It is not a charity. It is a global empire with dealings with wealthy foreigners. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-inside-story-of-how-the-clin...
and
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/04/29/clinton-health-char...
and
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/04/29/clinton-health-char...
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"Shady dealings of the Clinton Foundation" is a right-wing Big Lie
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OK, let's go with your language:
"Talk about her lack of authenticity has point, but I believe untrustworthy opportunist is more on mark."
More important than labels, another commenter asked rhetorically what Hillary has actually lied about. I agree that being accused numerous times doesn't make her guilty of any of the accusations.
For me, Hillary's only clear lie was her claim (later retracted) was her "sniper fire" claim. (I've been shot at by snipers so few times – as in "zero" – that I tend to remember such events.)
As for her First Lady time, I never thought Whitewater or any of the other charges had any substantial evidence to support them – with one obscure exception: Hillary's commodities trading while Bill was governor of Arkansas. She made a great deal of money, but on highly leveraged bets. Given her and Bill's claim to have been poor then (which I believe), it was irresponsible to bet so much on those commodities trades. They worked out, but if they hadn't, she and Bill would probably have been bankrupted. Unless, of course, their friendly brokerage firm was prepared to absorb any loss in exchange for hoped-for favors from the Governor.
"Talk about her lack of authenticity has point, but I believe untrustworthy opportunist is more on mark."
More important than labels, another commenter asked rhetorically what Hillary has actually lied about. I agree that being accused numerous times doesn't make her guilty of any of the accusations.
For me, Hillary's only clear lie was her claim (later retracted) was her "sniper fire" claim. (I've been shot at by snipers so few times – as in "zero" – that I tend to remember such events.)
As for her First Lady time, I never thought Whitewater or any of the other charges had any substantial evidence to support them – with one obscure exception: Hillary's commodities trading while Bill was governor of Arkansas. She made a great deal of money, but on highly leveraged bets. Given her and Bill's claim to have been poor then (which I believe), it was irresponsible to bet so much on those commodities trades. They worked out, but if they hadn't, she and Bill would probably have been bankrupted. Unless, of course, their friendly brokerage firm was prepared to absorb any loss in exchange for hoped-for favors from the Governor.
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I am somewhat perplexed by what people mean by authentic or for that matter unauthentic. As I understand it, it means truthfulness...other than the rhetoric I keep hearing, what has Hillary lied about....
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With 78% of the public against the Citizens United decision, in a era when the electorate has voiced their disapproval of big money in politics, Obama nominates a justice who supported the CU decision in appellate court proceedings.
Obama and Clinton, wedded as they are to the worst corporatism of a party which once lifted up working people via New Deal programs, are the exact opposite of what voters are looking for. Hillary is heading for a big let down in November.
Obama and Clinton, wedded as they are to the worst corporatism of a party which once lifted up working people via New Deal programs, are the exact opposite of what voters are looking for. Hillary is heading for a big let down in November.
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@Urizen
I have to tell you I'm not big on the guy either as when the DC v Heller decision was decided by a 3 Judge panel of the DC Appeal Court he was one of 4 Judges who would have voted to give the appellants (the District) an en banc hearing. Which likely means he is not inclined to see the 2nd Amendment for what it really is... An individual right to self defense.
This is very troubling!
I know Bernie is a big believer in the right of individuals to own firearms and I'm willing to bet once he hears about Judge Garland's anti-2nd Amendment position he will not be happy!
I have to tell you I'm not big on the guy either as when the DC v Heller decision was decided by a 3 Judge panel of the DC Appeal Court he was one of 4 Judges who would have voted to give the appellants (the District) an en banc hearing. Which likely means he is not inclined to see the 2nd Amendment for what it really is... An individual right to self defense.
This is very troubling!
I know Bernie is a big believer in the right of individuals to own firearms and I'm willing to bet once he hears about Judge Garland's anti-2nd Amendment position he will not be happy!
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If Clinton can not defend herself from Sanders how will she handle Trump?
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@td
You have seen last Tuesday's results?
She went 5 for 5!
She seems to be handling the "Bernie issue" remarkably well!
You have seen last Tuesday's results?
She went 5 for 5!
She seems to be handling the "Bernie issue" remarkably well!
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Please. She leads Sanders by 2.5 million votes. For the same states in 2008, Obama's lead was under a million. She has 59% of the total vote so far. Obama got 53% and 51% respectively in the 2008 and 2012 general elections. By any reasonable measure, Clinton is crushing Sanders. Inevitably it will be in everyone's interest to make it seem like a close race for the general election this year too, but Clinton will also crush Trump or whatever other deranged person the GOP puts up.
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I will not count Senator Sanders out until he does.
I believe the our President has earned the title of such. That's President Obama not Mr. Obama.
I believe the our President has earned the title of such. That's President Obama not Mr. Obama.
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I think it is not up to Pres. Obama to tell the American people for whom we should vote. He is on the Upper East Side A LOT (even shutting down avenues so he can get to the theater on time....can't see Bernie doing that. Bush? Yes) - on E. xxth St., and Xth Ave. to attend "fund raising" events with ex-pat foreign shipping magnates. I think this is exactly what the Rank and File American wishes to Stop in our country. (maybe I put too many facts so it was removed...)
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We got it the first time Ellen. Thanks.
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Very disappointed to see this. The President should NOT be advocating either candidate at this time. I am also angry with the entire media coverage of this campaign. It is very obvious that the media is favoring Clinton over Sanders which is encouraging votes for her. There are a lot of people who dislike the way this campaign has been handled by both the media and the DNC. I think it is about time we started thinking about eliminating those Super Delegates votes as well!
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The president had no business meddling in this election and I think it shows the DNC is worried about HRC's viability.
Ironic, Barack/s releasing of the Argentinian Dirty War papers. Some of Hillary's foreign policy "chops". A lot of mothers and daughters here:
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/18/slain_activist_berta_caceras_daugh...
Ironic, Barack/s releasing of the Argentinian Dirty War papers. Some of Hillary's foreign policy "chops". A lot of mothers and daughters here:
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/18/slain_activist_berta_caceras_daugh...
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While I'm a Sanders supporter, I will vote for Hillary (i.e., against the Trump/Cruz), if need be. Talk about her lack of authenticity has point, but I believe untrustworthy opportunist is more on mark. Because , to my mind, it's not too troublesome that she's shifted positions a notable number of times (trustworthy people can change their mind and decent politicians often waffle). Rather, what's most worrisome is doubt about the independence of her judgement, given the large sums of money she's received from financial institutions and corporations. The seven-hundred-thousand dollar plus fee paid to her by Goldman Sacks for three talks, AND her insistence she said nothing untoward BUT won't release records of what was said unless all candidates (not just Sanders) do, is a paradigmatic example that leads to my--certainly not isolated--doubt.
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If the story is accurate, it was a bad idea for the President to hold such a meeting because:
1. Barely half the primaries and caucuses have been held, and Bernie is expected to do well in coming contests in Arizona, Wisconsin, Idaho, Utah, Washington state, and New York.
2. It’s hardly necessary to tell big donors to unite behind Hillary because they already have; Bernie isn’t getting their money.
3. Such meetings with big Democratic donors won’t exactly help Hillary attract enthusiastic Bernie supporters if she gets the Democratic nomination and needs them for the general election.
4. If anything, such meetings reinforce the notion that Hillary Clinton is the epicenter of the same Wall Street-corporate-Democratic complex that had far too much influence over both her husband’s and Obama’s administrations.
1. Barely half the primaries and caucuses have been held, and Bernie is expected to do well in coming contests in Arizona, Wisconsin, Idaho, Utah, Washington state, and New York.
2. It’s hardly necessary to tell big donors to unite behind Hillary because they already have; Bernie isn’t getting their money.
3. Such meetings with big Democratic donors won’t exactly help Hillary attract enthusiastic Bernie supporters if she gets the Democratic nomination and needs them for the general election.
4. If anything, such meetings reinforce the notion that Hillary Clinton is the epicenter of the same Wall Street-corporate-Democratic complex that had far too much influence over both her husband’s and Obama’s administrations.
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I'm Glad I don't care what Obama wants after letting the largest thieft in the history of humanity go unpunished. If you thought Hillary was bought by Wall Street then Obama must be mind controlled by them.
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HAAA! What this piece was and what Obama is trying to do is save her election from people not voting for her. She has to be the most hated democratic candidate for president I have seen in a long time. It's not going to work you can't force people to vote for Hillary by dragging obama out or by fear-mongering through the press. The Clinton dynasty is running scared. I love it. It means Bernie is closer to the goal as the "pledged delegates" indicate and Hillary is about to get creamed in the upcoming states.
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Well, turn out for Democratic Primaries and Caucuses is very low. Many people do not trust HRC, but are afraid that Bernie will be another Barack -- heart and soul in the right place, but not enough strength and clout to follow through and get done the changes that are needed. So, they are just staying away from the election. Many Bernie supporters are staying away as they feel the election is weighted by the DNC, and that even if Bernie gets the votes the process allows for Congress to make the final decision. The Republican Congress does not want Bernie, as he will fight them. But they know that HRC can be bought.
Come on Bernie believers -- if your primary is still to come, get there and vote for Bernie.
Come on Bernie believers -- if your primary is still to come, get there and vote for Bernie.
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What about the White House denial that he mentioned a candidate by name?
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Trump is America's Rocky Balboa. The DNC, the GOP, the RNC and the entire Champagne Class want him gone. They keep throwing punches at him and just like Rocky he keeps getting up. I'm rooting for you Trump! America needs a Rocky in our corner to help battle the Champagne Class. Also, all my neighbors including men and women are all voting for Trump.
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Perhaps unintentional, but Obama has put the touch of doom on Hillary. In essence he said, "The public understands Hillary's dishonesty, but she must be elected to continue the status quo." Then, the president collected his $2,000,000 speaking fee and went home.
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As I said last week, hear that sound? The sound of a Tsunami of barf heading straight for hrc...
Obama just set it off and this may be remembered as a MAJOR turning point confirming exactly what Bernie Sanders has steadfastly been trying to tell the American public for YEARS against all the establishment opposition he faces down in full force. Bernie for a long time senator and leader of home n lives a pretty humble life, what a back of steel never selling out while working in that corrupt cesspool. Not unlike other great leaders in history:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
Obama just set it off and this may be remembered as a MAJOR turning point confirming exactly what Bernie Sanders has steadfastly been trying to tell the American public for YEARS against all the establishment opposition he faces down in full force. Bernie for a long time senator and leader of home n lives a pretty humble life, what a back of steel never selling out while working in that corrupt cesspool. Not unlike other great leaders in history:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi
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To all the Bernie supporters here: He hasn't even been touched by the GOP so you really don't know how strong he might be in a general election. I guarantee you that this country will not vote for a self-described Democratic Socialist. And that's even before the GOP successfully demonizes him. Hillary Clinton has withstood over twenty years of attacks by the GOP and she's still standing, and standing strong. There's no way Bernie could handle that.
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Look at the projected Electoral college maps. The Dems have to win New Hampshire to win . Hillary will lose New Hampshire and the election, just as Gore did in 2000. Bernie would win New Hampshire, which would put him at 270 and the win. Most if the states where Hillary won big are irrelevant to the Dems. in November.That is my amateur analysis.
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Amateur analysis - yes, it certainly is. And not a good one either.
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Oh my - what an amateur analysis. Yes, Sanders won NH - but so did Trump...and a whole lot more voters showed up for Trump and that for Sanders or Hillary. How Sanders would win a single state other than Vermont is unclear to me.
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Obama's talk didn't hurt Bernie and the movement.
What Obama did was to authenticate Hillary's dishonesty and the public's unwillingness to accept it any further. Also, he was admitting to his own role in being owned by the party's rulers.
What Obama did was to authenticate Hillary's dishonesty and the public's unwillingness to accept it any further. Also, he was admitting to his own role in being owned by the party's rulers.
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An endorsement from Mr. Obama. The kiss of death.
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Finally, we get to the heart of the matter. The king has told his inner circle that this independent contender is honest and threatening their way of life. Further, that the king's chosen successor is an "empress without clothes"; that the masses don't support her; but that she must be chosen anyway to insure corporate control of the country.
Intentionally, or inadvertently, Obama has given Americans a great gift--a few words of honest, candid disclosure about the process of the ruling class. They don't want an honest, moral, capable person in the presidency.
Regardless of whether the rulers eliminate Bernie, the movement will continue. Regardless of their efforts to suppress it, justice is on the move and the game is up.
Intentionally, or inadvertently, Obama has given Americans a great gift--a few words of honest, candid disclosure about the process of the ruling class. They don't want an honest, moral, capable person in the presidency.
Regardless of whether the rulers eliminate Bernie, the movement will continue. Regardless of their efforts to suppress it, justice is on the move and the game is up.
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Buck: Please get this out to as much of the media as you can. It is the most incisive statement I have seen and should be spread as widely as possible. Thanks.
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Why would Bernie care what was said to this particular group of donors? He wouldn't want their money, anyway. Isn't that the point he makes at every turn?
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If Hillary gets the nomination, the 1% will have a lock on the presidency either way. Trump exemplifies corporate America and of course is a member of the .01%. Hillary kowtows to the 1% with her speeches to Wall Street that she is too embarrassed to release.
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Attendees paid as much as $33,400 a ticket. —That’s all you need to know.
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I guess you don't want democratic congressional candidates supported - you know, the people who are actually needed to enact the kind of reforms Bernie wants.
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Ed: The DNC has to raise money to help candidates for President, Congress, and state governments get elected if Democrats want to get anything done. So far Hillary has helped in that effort, but Bernie hasn't. Everything he has raised is for his presidential campaign. Like it or not, unless and until Citizens United is overturned, money has to be raised to get candidates elected. Bernie and his supporters are going to have help Democratic candidates at all levels of government for any "revolution" to get off the ground.
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I support and trust Bernie, and if he backs Hillary in the general election, I will back her.
And every time I read a comment from someone who says they back Bernie but will vote for Trump if he loses, I will contribute a little more to the Democratic candidate.
And every time I read a comment from someone who says they back Bernie but will vote for Trump if he loses, I will contribute a little more to the Democratic candidate.
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Should he stay or should he go? I hope Bernie Sanders stays in the race. To suggest that by sticking it out he will help the Republicans regain the White House is fear mongering. It is also undemocratic. Then again, democracy doesn't exist in an oligarchy. The wealthy Democrat donors the President met with know this. Hang in there Bernie, and bang the drum slowly.
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I don't trust Bernie Sanders Part 2:
6) He promises free health care and state college education. This man, who has been paid by taxpayers his entire adult life, does not seem to understand that very little is really free. Free in this case means paid for by someone else, including middle-class taxpayers.
7) I support universal health care. This was first introduced in the U.S. by none other than Hillary Clinton, and was squashed pretty brutally. Given all the push-back Obamacare received, I would say most U.S. voters don't seem quite ready for this.
8) Some commenters write "Polls show only Sanders can prevail over Trump." Could it be because Republicans are not publishing any oppo research hoping he will become the Democratic nominee? Other commenters have pointed out that he honeymooned in U.S.S.R. and praised Fidel Castro. I predict the bloodbath will be bad. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has had all her warts under the Republican Party's microscope for decades.
9) His campaign can be summed up in one word: revolution. But even as president, he has limited powers to wage one, as there are 3 branches in the U.S. government. Exhibit A: Congress/SCOTUS constantly tying Obama's hands. I am skeptical as to how much he would really accomplish if he became president with that "uncompromising" vision. Exhibit B: His past congressional record.
6) He promises free health care and state college education. This man, who has been paid by taxpayers his entire adult life, does not seem to understand that very little is really free. Free in this case means paid for by someone else, including middle-class taxpayers.
7) I support universal health care. This was first introduced in the U.S. by none other than Hillary Clinton, and was squashed pretty brutally. Given all the push-back Obamacare received, I would say most U.S. voters don't seem quite ready for this.
8) Some commenters write "Polls show only Sanders can prevail over Trump." Could it be because Republicans are not publishing any oppo research hoping he will become the Democratic nominee? Other commenters have pointed out that he honeymooned in U.S.S.R. and praised Fidel Castro. I predict the bloodbath will be bad. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has had all her warts under the Republican Party's microscope for decades.
9) His campaign can be summed up in one word: revolution. But even as president, he has limited powers to wage one, as there are 3 branches in the U.S. government. Exhibit A: Congress/SCOTUS constantly tying Obama's hands. I am skeptical as to how much he would really accomplish if he became president with that "uncompromising" vision. Exhibit B: His past congressional record.
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You are simply spilling out Clinton talking points nothing original here.
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You guys love to talk about Hillary's experience.
Her experience is exactly the wrong experience in my mind and many others here who disagree with her fundamentally on her Hawkishness and welfare of the elite, which she herself is, taking 28 million $ just last year as personal income.
I fail to believe she is for the people and so many here agree with me.
Her experience is exactly the wrong experience in my mind and many others here who disagree with her fundamentally on her Hawkishness and welfare of the elite, which she herself is, taking 28 million $ just last year as personal income.
I fail to believe she is for the people and so many here agree with me.
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I hope this means a Clinton-Sanders ticket
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Bernie would never sell out his supporters like that.....
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This was either a monumentally bad move by President Obama, the NYT or both.
3-18-16@2:11 pm
3-18-16@2:11 pm
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They can wish this away by appointing Hillary the next UN Secretary General.
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BIG Money, corrupt donors have been united behind Hillary all along. In my opinion, few grassroots, small donors who think and have at least an ounce of integrity will ever support Hillary.
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“BIG Money, corrupt donors have been united behind Hillary all along.”
The Clintons are corrupt…the Clinton Foundation has had some shady dealings…Hillary and Bill have received $153 million in speaking fees. And for all of Hillary’s talk about gun control, an NRA lobbyist will be co-hosting one of her fundraisers. According to the Times, Clinton is the “TOP RECIPIENT of lobbying money” in this campaign.
NRA Lobbyist Will Co-Host Hillary Clinton Fundraiser
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fu...
Hillary Clinton 2016: DC Lobbyists Set To Raise Cash For Hillary Victory Fund
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyis...
The Clintons are corrupt…the Clinton Foundation has had some shady dealings…Hillary and Bill have received $153 million in speaking fees. And for all of Hillary’s talk about gun control, an NRA lobbyist will be co-hosting one of her fundraisers. According to the Times, Clinton is the “TOP RECIPIENT of lobbying money” in this campaign.
NRA Lobbyist Will Co-Host Hillary Clinton Fundraiser
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fu...
Hillary Clinton 2016: DC Lobbyists Set To Raise Cash For Hillary Victory Fund
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-2016-dc-lobbyis...
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Clinton and Sanders supporters missing point to voting for POTUS; it is just as important to vote against as it is for someone. So to those swaring off Hillary, which would enable fascism, shows total lack of putting at risk of what you have. That folks will enable Hillary to live longer without 24/7 rigors of being president, but what about you and USA posterity?
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Bernie supporters are bored with claims directing blame toward us. We feel no guilt. The ones to blame is the DNC, media, and Hillary for not running a fair election.
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What is unfair about the election? I think it's pretty great that Bernie Sanders can even run as a democrat. And get as much support as he has because of generous policies in some states, allowing independents to vote also.
So if he doesn't manage to win the nomination, what would that show, if not that Hillary Clinton won? As in, isn't that how the contest works? She got more votes. What sounds strange to me is the suggestion that if he loses, it's the party's fault.
Some people seem to take Bernie's nomination as some sort of given. And if it's not given, there is license to punish the party by withholding a vote for its nominee.
Vote for anyone you want, but it seems like your real issue is with people genuinely preferring Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders.
But who does it really punish to vote for Trump or no one at all to spite the party?
So if he doesn't manage to win the nomination, what would that show, if not that Hillary Clinton won? As in, isn't that how the contest works? She got more votes. What sounds strange to me is the suggestion that if he loses, it's the party's fault.
Some people seem to take Bernie's nomination as some sort of given. And if it's not given, there is license to punish the party by withholding a vote for its nominee.
Vote for anyone you want, but it seems like your real issue is with people genuinely preferring Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders.
But who does it really punish to vote for Trump or no one at all to spite the party?
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It comes as no surprise the Obama would drop comments as he did. He has been to the right of Nixon for 8 years with Heritage Care and the TARP big bank bailout with absent support for some of the deserving home owners in the 2008 near depression. It is not a surprise that he supports the wholly owned corporate candidate. I fear, though, that the electorate may nudge Clinton to the nomination only to find that 1) many of us Sanders supporters cannot ethically stoop to vote for such a compromised candidate as Clinton in November, 2) she cannot incite Democrats to vote in this most critical of elections, so that Republican turnout may exceed Democrat turnout, 3) and the all important independent vote will likely choose the authentic nightmare as opposed to the unexciting shape shifter. So, by choose the "safe" candidate, the DNC and Democratic Party elite, including Obama, may be ironically choosing Trump for president.
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This has to be done very, very carefully. The Dems have a huge (!) opportunity here to regain both houses of Congress as well as the Presidency as the GOP forms a circular firing squad. Sanders supporters should be given every respect and should Clinton clinch the nomination, even more so. If that happens Sanders should speak at the convention and be allowed to rally the troops to coalesce around the party's nominee. It is important that his supporters remain not only engaged, but willing to work for the party to win the general election even if their guy is not the nominee. The Dems must get independents, young people, white men, and suburban and better educated GOP voters to vote for HC and deny Trump the White House. Even if the GOP is in disarray it is not a slam dunk. There is too much that could go wrong if Sanders supporters are not made to feel included, and too much at stake for the country if the Dems are not united in a fifty-state precinct by precinct blanket campaign. They need not only to secure the Presidency, but also to regain control of Congress from the obstructionist party of "no". The Tea Party and the rest of the GOP's extreme adherents in Congress need to be given a long, long vacation. SCOTUS and much more depends on it.
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@Judy,
Your location says Canada. Are you Canadian or are you one of the rare--and I mean RARE--people not trashing and dismissing Sanders voters, i.e., those who confuse "Bernie Bros" with genuine, respectful Sanders voters and volunteers? I am a Sanders volunteer. So is my mom.
If you're Canadian, I can't tell you how embarrassing I find this whole thing. We must look ridiculous to you. Also, I hope there was at least a tinge of seriousness in Prime Minister Trudeau's welcome of Americans if Trump becomes president. God forbid.
Thank you for your comment, your decency and most of all, for your respect.
3-18-16@4:01 pm
Your location says Canada. Are you Canadian or are you one of the rare--and I mean RARE--people not trashing and dismissing Sanders voters, i.e., those who confuse "Bernie Bros" with genuine, respectful Sanders voters and volunteers? I am a Sanders volunteer. So is my mom.
If you're Canadian, I can't tell you how embarrassing I find this whole thing. We must look ridiculous to you. Also, I hope there was at least a tinge of seriousness in Prime Minister Trudeau's welcome of Americans if Trump becomes president. God forbid.
Thank you for your comment, your decency and most of all, for your respect.
3-18-16@4:01 pm
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@ Lady Scorpio
I am really a Canadian and would be a Democrat working for Bernie Sanders were I an American. If he does not get the nomination, I would hold my nose and work for Hillary Clinton because even if she would not be my first choice she is a Democrat and infinitely better than any of the GOP candidates, especially Trump.
Above the 49th parallel we have to keep reminding ourselves that this is for real and that it will carry on until November. Our election period last fall was eleven weeks long start to finish and that was longer than usual.
You're welcome. I hope that you all will work hard to get a Democrat in the White House and regain control of both houses of Congress. We all have our fingers crossed.
I am really a Canadian and would be a Democrat working for Bernie Sanders were I an American. If he does not get the nomination, I would hold my nose and work for Hillary Clinton because even if she would not be my first choice she is a Democrat and infinitely better than any of the GOP candidates, especially Trump.
Above the 49th parallel we have to keep reminding ourselves that this is for real and that it will carry on until November. Our election period last fall was eleven weeks long start to finish and that was longer than usual.
You're welcome. I hope that you all will work hard to get a Democrat in the White House and regain control of both houses of Congress. We all have our fingers crossed.
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I told my two adult sons a few months back that flirting with Bernie was fine but that when push comes to shove they and all Democrats will have to get behind Hillary or they will, in effect, be helping to put a Republican in the White House. It seemed the sensible approach. After all, Hillary is highly experienced and what other choice does a sane person have in this election.
I have since changed my mind.
Sometime, in some way the corporate control of our political system must end and this seems as good a time and place as any. At 66 I am no millennial with stars in my eyes smitten with that sweet old man. But I do trust him and I can't say that about HRC.
Let's put the right Democrat in the White House in 2016 and take back the Senate while we're at it.
I have since changed my mind.
Sometime, in some way the corporate control of our political system must end and this seems as good a time and place as any. At 66 I am no millennial with stars in my eyes smitten with that sweet old man. But I do trust him and I can't say that about HRC.
Let's put the right Democrat in the White House in 2016 and take back the Senate while we're at it.
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This is exactly whats wrong with the system today.
Why do we have to vote for Democrats if we disagree with them or why we have to vote for Republicans if we disagree with them.
We are passing down dynasties and not supporting policies. Thats why the people at the top can get away with anything because they know people at the bottom will vote for them no matter what.
For that exact reason and many more I will not be voting for Hillary come November because I disagree with her policies and they will not get my vote.
Why do we have to vote for Democrats if we disagree with them or why we have to vote for Republicans if we disagree with them.
We are passing down dynasties and not supporting policies. Thats why the people at the top can get away with anything because they know people at the bottom will vote for them no matter what.
For that exact reason and many more I will not be voting for Hillary come November because I disagree with her policies and they will not get my vote.
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I didn't vote for her last time because I do not like her history or her policies. Funny story, my husband tells a joke about people who get married and divorced and them remarried. He likens it to tasting sour milk out of the fridge, putting it back in the fridge for another week and tasting it again as if it would be better. I see Hillary as the same.
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This reminds me of how I see many Clinton supporters. It's as if they have a sign on their back that says "hit me," they know the sign is on their back, and they refuse to remove it!
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Of course Obama "played down the importance of authenticity" - since he is so inauthentic himself.
[authentic - adjective; entitled to acceptance or belief because of agreement with known facts or experience; reliable; trustworthy
[authentic - adjective; entitled to acceptance or belief because of agreement with known facts or experience; reliable; trustworthy
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I've recently become more informed about the consequences of our foreign policy re Honduras, where, after a military coup that our State Department basically backed (in contrast to the EU and OAS) there appears to a recrudescence of state-sponsored violence against the opposition reminiscent of the behavior countenanced (not to say, encouraged) by US foreign policy under Kissinger. Sure looks we're going to get "Neocon-lite" under a Clinton II administration.
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Sorry Mr President but this is the wrong call. Don't take sides until the nomination is settled, and keep your eye on the Supreme Court issue.
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The President is also the Leader and Head of the Democratic party. His suggestions are spot on and are for the good of the party and the country.
Do the math. Sanders has no path to victory and he has no super delegates. It's time for Sanders and the left wing to put their egos aside and step aside so that the party can rally around Hillary and ensure victory against Trump.
Do the math. Sanders has no path to victory and he has no super delegates. It's time for Sanders and the left wing to put their egos aside and step aside so that the party can rally around Hillary and ensure victory against Trump.
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If he is and his goal is to retain party control of the White House he better start reading the polls or praying she faces Mr. Trump.
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This story appears to violate the NYTime's own recently announced rules regarding anonymous sources. No sources have been named, the President's press secretary has denied it's accuracy, and all major news outlets have run with it. Here's what the article stated about the new rules regarding unnamed sources just a mere three days ago:
" It requires one of three top editors to review and sign off on articles that depend primarily on information from unnamed sources – particularly those that “hinge on a central fact” from such a source, Mr. Purdy told me last week in an interview. The editors are Mr. Baquet, Mr. Purdy, and Susan Chira, another deputy executive editor.
Those stories, Mr. Purdy said, are potential “journalistic I.E.D.s.” In other words, they may be bombs that explode unexpectedly and damage The Times and its credibility. Given that, they require special oversight, and a process that may result in slowing down before publishing.
The new policy also aims to significantly “ratchet down the use of anonymous quotation,” Mr. Purdy said. It would make such quotation relatively rare. Too often, he said, such direct quotations allow sources to express “their impression, their spin, their agenda” without accountability. And, he said, they don’t allow readers to evaluate motive because they don’t know where the information is coming from."
Clearly this story appears to be one of those "journalistic I.E.D's" Mr. Purdy is referring to and trying to avoid.
" It requires one of three top editors to review and sign off on articles that depend primarily on information from unnamed sources – particularly those that “hinge on a central fact” from such a source, Mr. Purdy told me last week in an interview. The editors are Mr. Baquet, Mr. Purdy, and Susan Chira, another deputy executive editor.
Those stories, Mr. Purdy said, are potential “journalistic I.E.D.s.” In other words, they may be bombs that explode unexpectedly and damage The Times and its credibility. Given that, they require special oversight, and a process that may result in slowing down before publishing.
The new policy also aims to significantly “ratchet down the use of anonymous quotation,” Mr. Purdy said. It would make such quotation relatively rare. Too often, he said, such direct quotations allow sources to express “their impression, their spin, their agenda” without accountability. And, he said, they don’t allow readers to evaluate motive because they don’t know where the information is coming from."
Clearly this story appears to be one of those "journalistic I.E.D's" Mr. Purdy is referring to and trying to avoid.
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you missed the asterisk: *like all other rules, these rules do not apply to the Hillary Clinton.
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Yup Clintons are untouchable.
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Good point. But it appears to be backfiring.
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"... President Obama privately told a group of Democratic donors last Friday that Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont was nearing the point at which his campaign against Hillary Clinton would end ..."
He's right, you know. Sanders' campaign against Clinton will end no later than July 28, the final night of the Philly convention. That's only about 4 months from now! So he is nearing that point. :-)
In all seriousness, the Democratic Party needs for this race to go to Philly so that it can figure out, once and for all, what it stands for and who it will fight for. The "New Democrat" policies of the past roughly 25 years, with its accommodation of Wall Street and other moneyed interests, has blurred the line so as to make the party indistinguishable from the Republicans in many important ways. The base's discontent with this approach has bubbled to the surface, and the party needs this intramural fight in order to decide whether it will continue with this course or return to principles of economic populism to lift up the little guy.
And for those of you worried about the party fracturing as a result: have you seen what's happening on the Republican side? There's serious discussion of conservatives running a third-party candidate if Trump wins the Republican nomination. If that happens, the Democrats could run Mondale or Dukakis and win in a landslide.
He's right, you know. Sanders' campaign against Clinton will end no later than July 28, the final night of the Philly convention. That's only about 4 months from now! So he is nearing that point. :-)
In all seriousness, the Democratic Party needs for this race to go to Philly so that it can figure out, once and for all, what it stands for and who it will fight for. The "New Democrat" policies of the past roughly 25 years, with its accommodation of Wall Street and other moneyed interests, has blurred the line so as to make the party indistinguishable from the Republicans in many important ways. The base's discontent with this approach has bubbled to the surface, and the party needs this intramural fight in order to decide whether it will continue with this course or return to principles of economic populism to lift up the little guy.
And for those of you worried about the party fracturing as a result: have you seen what's happening on the Republican side? There's serious discussion of conservatives running a third-party candidate if Trump wins the Republican nomination. If that happens, the Democrats could run Mondale or Dukakis and win in a landslide.
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Sanders and his left wing followers are on an ego trip and need to face and own the truth. Your hopes are projected onto a 75 yo candidate who cannot win.
We all love Bernie and his fiery spirit and message. However the country is not going to magically shift to the left. Every day Bernie stays in the race hurts the party, the frontrunning Presidential candidate Hillary, and the country.
The party now needs to unite and rally around Hillary to ensure victory against Trump.
We all love Bernie and his fiery spirit and message. However the country is not going to magically shift to the left. Every day Bernie stays in the race hurts the party, the frontrunning Presidential candidate Hillary, and the country.
The party now needs to unite and rally around Hillary to ensure victory against Trump.
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Polls show otherwise, Robert. It is Hillary who will motivate haters to the polls, and who will not motivate the Democratic base... It is Hillary who will likely lose.
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For me, it is exactly as I stated above. Yes, I realize that the odds are against Sanders winning the nomination. But I want him to keep going, and the Democratic Party (whether it realizes it or not) NEEDS for him to keep going, because the party has a very muddled message these days on what it means to be a Democrat and what the Democratic Party stands for, thanks to the "New Democrats" of Bill Clinton and Obama. I see the overarching purpose of his campaign as forcing at least some clarity on this front, and I think it is long overdue.
Sanders, even if not officially a Democrat, has nonetheless been more true to the traditional Democratic principles of promoting economic opportunity for the less fortunate than any Democratic presidential candidate in at least recent times. I hope that he can get at least some of that into the party platform this July. The Democratic Party, and this country, will be better for it.
Sanders, even if not officially a Democrat, has nonetheless been more true to the traditional Democratic principles of promoting economic opportunity for the less fortunate than any Democratic presidential candidate in at least recent times. I hope that he can get at least some of that into the party platform this July. The Democratic Party, and this country, will be better for it.
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I'd like to know what policy issues she has that are better than Bernie? Oh that's right she is lip syncing Bernie's positions Hilly Vanilli style. The Democrats throwing their own under the bus is a HUGE mistake. Make fun and pretend to be the "concerned adult" in the room and you will lose far more than you gain. You become more off-putting with each word. You forget we are also liberals and we know snark when we see it. It is not a threat or a joke. It is a fact. If Hillary wins we will stay home. That will affect the down Hillary races. The new influx of youth voters will have been squandered. Who knows when they will be back? A dog and pony show is not what they had in mind. If we are not represented then we have no responsibility to you. It is on you.
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"we know snark when we see it. It is not a threat or a joke. It is a fact. If Hillary wins we will stay home."
But you got to admit it is kind of fun watching these people post the notion that we will show up if she is the nominee. I guess it won't sink in with them that we do not take to cattle calls after they shut us out of the election by way of them rigging it from day one. Their own arrogance is their destruction..lol
But you got to admit it is kind of fun watching these people post the notion that we will show up if she is the nominee. I guess it won't sink in with them that we do not take to cattle calls after they shut us out of the election by way of them rigging it from day one. Their own arrogance is their destruction..lol
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In a Democracy, every candidate does not win. President Obama is here filling his role as leader of the Democratic Party. The candidate that appeals to the greatest number of voters wins. The Progressive left platform of Sanders and the voters that support it will be represented by the nominee.
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That would be a No.The tire tracks tend to say otherwise.Your idea of democracy is scary and process matters. Your assumption that we will show up for her is a problem for you not me.
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How can the President of the US declare preference for one candidate over another?? Of course, President Obama would pick Hillary, but to say that Bernie Sanders should drop out is reprehensible!! Why?? Because the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Suoer PACS, etc. have rigged her anointing since way back when?? I am appalled just at the whole party and their heavy handed, "machine driven" CLINTONS who could be so positioned, locking any/every other Democratic who would have the same aspirations, the deep passion, the HONESTY, the decency, no scandals, that is Bernie Sanders!! What a travesty and a shame that the Democrats have been cowed and manipulated by her. And, what a terrible example Obama has unleashed by his somewhat endorsement!! I guess payback is the norm with these two!!
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I voted for President Obama both times. I knocked on doors for him in 2008 to help get out the vote. In truth, he has been a disappointment, at best. Bernie inspires me. His integrity is beyond reproach and funding his campaign with only small individual donations is such an amazing thing. What a contrast with the big monied crowd that the Clintons are so comfortable with and so connected to.....in every sense of the word. For Obama to take sides at this point in the primary just shows that he is (or has become) a politician like all the others that are so disliked and evoke such contempt. At least be honest, I would respect that more than this anonymous "leak". The DNC, much of the media (surprisingly even the liberal media like MSNBC), and yes, the NYT (which I love) are so clearly in the tank for Hillary and have not given Bernie a fair shake....but still he defies expectations because he speaks the truth, simply, eloquently, consistently and with deep conviction.
As a middle-aged woman who has always considered herself a feminist, it pains me to say I will not vote for Hillary if she becomes the nominee. She is super intelligent. She is so transparently a fraud. She is fundamentally flawed and dishonest. Not to mention the fact that with the exception of the Obama presidency, if she wins, for the past 29 years, every President will have been either a Bush or a Clinton. We have become a veritable monarchy. Such despair!
Go Bernie- you are the REAL hope & change.
As a middle-aged woman who has always considered herself a feminist, it pains me to say I will not vote for Hillary if she becomes the nominee. She is super intelligent. She is so transparently a fraud. She is fundamentally flawed and dishonest. Not to mention the fact that with the exception of the Obama presidency, if she wins, for the past 29 years, every President will have been either a Bush or a Clinton. We have become a veritable monarchy. Such despair!
Go Bernie- you are the REAL hope & change.
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I'm wondering when the NY Times will print a retraction, if it will be in headline type and featured on the site.
Both Reuters and The White House are denying that the President endorsed a candidate and said that the party must begin to coalesce behind the chosen Candidate.
We have 54% more of the electorate that needs to vote.
We know you really want Hillary to win, but what if that's not what the voters want?
Both Reuters and The White House are denying that the President endorsed a candidate and said that the party must begin to coalesce behind the chosen Candidate.
We have 54% more of the electorate that needs to vote.
We know you really want Hillary to win, but what if that's not what the voters want?
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I acknowledge that Hillary will probably win the nomination but I'm voting for Bernie in Wisconsin's April 4th primary because I want him to influence the Democratic Party's policies. I also want to keep young people engaged in the political process.
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Folks, That'll be April 5th.
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I hope no one believes that Obama told the "donors" to wait for the nomination process to be complete.
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Thanks, NY Times, for reminding me that I needed to make my contribution to the Bernie Sanders campaign.
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This whole article is another "plant piece" by the HRC campaign team to deflect the real story as it unfolds-- Bernie Sanders surges ahead, defies polls and virtually ties HRC in Mo and her home state of Illinois. But No! the Times runs this no news article calling for Bernie to drop out.
It's time for Bernie to double down and intensify the fight, he has Hillary on the ropes and push thru til the end.
The report of Obama speaking to donors at $34,000 a plate is telling. Bernie is actually building the donor and voter base of the future of the Democratic Party. Reject this and you have HRC and the hedge founders.
It's time for Bernie to double down and intensify the fight, he has Hillary on the ropes and push thru til the end.
The report of Obama speaking to donors at $34,000 a plate is telling. Bernie is actually building the donor and voter base of the future of the Democratic Party. Reject this and you have HRC and the hedge founders.
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FYI Obama, If Bernie loses, I'm voting for Trump.
Wait, wasn't your biggest "sayings" back in the day when you were running for President "change"? Boy, did America lose betting on you...
Wait, wasn't your biggest "sayings" back in the day when you were running for President "change"? Boy, did America lose betting on you...
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If Cruz loses, I'm voting for Hillary.
I am very conservative and have never voted for Hillary - but I will this year
I am very conservative and have never voted for Hillary - but I will this year
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Still another foreign newspaper reporting the White House denial -
Dailymail excerpt and link:
"The president's spokesman denied an assertion today that Obama endorsed Clinton. That's not what he said, Josh Earnest told reporters
The senior administration official was unable to directly deny the story or tell the press exactly what Obama did say, though."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497587/No-president-did-not-end...
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Dailymail excerpt and link:
"The president's spokesman denied an assertion today that Obama endorsed Clinton. That's not what he said, Josh Earnest told reporters
The senior administration official was unable to directly deny the story or tell the press exactly what Obama did say, though."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497587/No-president-did-not-end...
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I'm sorry, but Mr Obama lost me when he started aggressively pushing the TPP. He lost me when he was willing to cut SS and Medicare benefits to pay for more war. And I'm sure he doesn't want to "anger" all of us true Liberals out here, and thinks by comparing Sanders to GWB he'll gain traction for HRC. Sure, in dumbed down Corporate Media Land you could blame Sanders for a Trump win, but those of us with working brains, who've watched our ConservaDems cave to Repugnant stupidity so they can earn a large paycheck are not really down for being tricked by all that nice happy talk once again. She'll keep Obama's legacy going all right - TPP, more war, more cuts, more bailouts, no prosecutions for any big fish, and a rampant prison pipeline. Oh, and that climate change thing? Why, we'll just ignore that and blame Repugnants for it but our donor dollars will keep on coming. And that, at the end of the day, IS what this is all about. Must keep that donor class happy.
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Well--Democrats used to preen themselves on being the party of, you know, smart people. Rabble-rousers were fringies who voted for raving prophets in the wilderness. And it was just so much fun to mock all those low-information voters in the vast swampland of flyover country who just keep voting against their own interests.
Why, everyone keeps asking in baffled uneasiness, is there an amoeba-like merging of some Trump voters and some Sanders voters?
Because many of us out here who are not, in fact, low-information voters but rather people whom the politicians cultivate only once every four years are absolutely fed up with hypocrisy, lies and contempt from our *public servants.*
I voted for Obama twice. The second time because really, there was no other choice, even though I had by that time recognized that I*d received Republican Light when I thought the menu specified Progressive Democrat. I myself am an independent but I have never voted for a Republican or conservative.
Voters who are generally reliable Republicans are, in rising numbers, furious too with lies and hypocrisy. They have paid most of the price for these endless wars. A candidate running as a Republican who actually says right out loud that those wars were disasters is speaking directly to them and their dead spouses and children.
Yes, Trump can win. And yes--Sanders can win. We know it, and we have thrown off our choke collars. Watch out.
Why, everyone keeps asking in baffled uneasiness, is there an amoeba-like merging of some Trump voters and some Sanders voters?
Because many of us out here who are not, in fact, low-information voters but rather people whom the politicians cultivate only once every four years are absolutely fed up with hypocrisy, lies and contempt from our *public servants.*
I voted for Obama twice. The second time because really, there was no other choice, even though I had by that time recognized that I*d received Republican Light when I thought the menu specified Progressive Democrat. I myself am an independent but I have never voted for a Republican or conservative.
Voters who are generally reliable Republicans are, in rising numbers, furious too with lies and hypocrisy. They have paid most of the price for these endless wars. A candidate running as a Republican who actually says right out loud that those wars were disasters is speaking directly to them and their dead spouses and children.
Yes, Trump can win. And yes--Sanders can win. We know it, and we have thrown off our choke collars. Watch out.
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The New York Times wrote an editorial on February 26 entitled "Mrs. Clinton, Show Voters Those Transcripts."
The Editorial Board wrote:
"“Public interest in these speeches is legitimate, and it is the public — not the candidate — who decides how much disclosure is enough. By stonewalling on these transcripts Mrs. Clinton plays into the hands of those who say she’s not trustworthy and makes her own rules. Most important, she is damaging her credibility among Democrats who are begging her to show them that she’d run an accountable and transparent White House.”
The editorial includes this statement made by the NYTimes Editorial Board:
“By refusing to release them all, especially the bank speeches, Mrs. Clinton fuels speculation about why she’s stonewalling.”
Mrs. Clinton simply ignored this New York Times editorial. And, despite the repeated efforts of Bernie Sanders and a couple of Democratic debate moderators to get her to release these transcripts, Mrs. Clinton continues to “stonewall.”
In the interests of fairness to the Democratic Party's Presidential nomination process, I believe that Democratic President Barak Obama should join Bernie Sanders and the Editorial Board of the New York Times in calling for Mrs. Clinton to "show voters those transcripts," especially the bank speeches. And, I remind President Obama that not a single "bankster" went to prison on his watch.
The Editorial Board wrote:
"“Public interest in these speeches is legitimate, and it is the public — not the candidate — who decides how much disclosure is enough. By stonewalling on these transcripts Mrs. Clinton plays into the hands of those who say she’s not trustworthy and makes her own rules. Most important, she is damaging her credibility among Democrats who are begging her to show them that she’d run an accountable and transparent White House.”
The editorial includes this statement made by the NYTimes Editorial Board:
“By refusing to release them all, especially the bank speeches, Mrs. Clinton fuels speculation about why she’s stonewalling.”
Mrs. Clinton simply ignored this New York Times editorial. And, despite the repeated efforts of Bernie Sanders and a couple of Democratic debate moderators to get her to release these transcripts, Mrs. Clinton continues to “stonewall.”
In the interests of fairness to the Democratic Party's Presidential nomination process, I believe that Democratic President Barak Obama should join Bernie Sanders and the Editorial Board of the New York Times in calling for Mrs. Clinton to "show voters those transcripts," especially the bank speeches. And, I remind President Obama that not a single "bankster" went to prison on his watch.
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I cannot believe how much misplaced "concern" there has been about the Hillary talks. She was out of government, she commanded a huge speaking fee, good for her. As for not jailing "banksters" there was not an airtight case to be make - why waste justice department time on a witch hunt just to scratch your itch?
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Well of course! Obama was bought and paid for long ago. Perhaps within minutes of winning in 2008. Whether money or just being allowed to live, Obama caved quickly from the "Yes We Can" to "We Better Not".
His corruption by the banks, especially, is notable.
With a gun to his head, Obama will say anything to get the corporate sweetheart elected.
His corruption by the banks, especially, is notable.
With a gun to his head, Obama will say anything to get the corporate sweetheart elected.
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Ok, so here's the deal. The years between 1988 and 2008 (20 years) had only two families in the white house. You didn't misread this. Two families. Clinton and Bush. We can do better and there is no way I'm voting them back into office, even if they get an endorsement from the second coming of Christ. The fact is, on the Democratic side, Clinton should simply pass the baton to younger democrats with more diverse views (and less Wall Street baggage). On the Republican side, Jeb did the right thing by backing out early. He knows we've had our fill of Bushes, nationally, and that their day in the sun is over. Hillary needs to learn this as well.
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Bernie Sanders is a Pied Piper of liberal reform, making promises that he believes in with every fiber of his being, but which are nonetheless completely unfulfillable. America remains a strongly divided country, along geographic, urban/rural, age, gender, educational, and prosperity lines, to name just a few. There is not a core consensus that will pull a governing majority together out of America's far flung constituencies who are otherwise deeply distrustful of one another, and so Bernie's visions for a better America are dead on arrival. At best, Bernie is a clarion call to the leaders of America's two party system that the American dream is broken for a significant minority of our citizens and that significant changes need to be made to restore trust and faith and hope in our common future. At worst, Bernie is the divisive wedge issue in the Democratic constituencies who will allow a Donald Trump or a Ted Cruz to cruise to victory in November and that would be a catastrophe.
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People have had their thumbs on the scale of this campaign in favor of Hillary since Bernie first started to gain momentum. Obama, however, is the most disappointing participant. Tuesday's results wounded Bernie badly. Obama could have let him lick his wounds, take a breath in advance of AZ, and try to get healthy for the home stretch. Instead he decided to do the political equivalent of taking the campaign behind the barn and putting an end to it. I'm all for death with dignity, but as a campaign issue, not as a way to kill an actual campaign. In the process, Obama addresses Hillary's authenticity, by saying it's overrated. So what's the next overrated quality in a candidate, honesty? Or must we now accept that quality has permanently flown the political coop?
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Wow, Mr. President! Among your many talents, are you also clairvoyant? If so, please consult your crystal ball and tell us exactly after which primary Clinton scores the 2383 pledged delegates needed for the nomination? Otherwise bud out. This is the voters' game, not yours or the DNC's or the high-powered donors. Please respect the process that got you elected. There are still 2295 unallocated delegates, 25 primaries/caucuses and millions of vote to come. I don't get to vote until June and if the Democratic establishment tries to affect the outcome before then, how is this not voter manipulation?
And to all those people who contemptuously brand Sanders supporters as naive and lacking life experience, I am a sane, 66-year old, life-long Democrat who, along with many other seniors, decided to vote for Bernie after reading and comparing his platform and positions compared to Clinton's. When a young, appealing political newbie fired us up with a vision of hope and change, we gave him our time, money and unwavering support. It's really sad that 8 years later, he disrespects one of the most seasoned, committed and deeply honest public servants by discounting him and the political process that gave him the Presidency.
And to all those people who contemptuously brand Sanders supporters as naive and lacking life experience, I am a sane, 66-year old, life-long Democrat who, along with many other seniors, decided to vote for Bernie after reading and comparing his platform and positions compared to Clinton's. When a young, appealing political newbie fired us up with a vision of hope and change, we gave him our time, money and unwavering support. It's really sad that 8 years later, he disrespects one of the most seasoned, committed and deeply honest public servants by discounting him and the political process that gave him the Presidency.
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Regardless of which one we happen to prefer here in the primary, we're all in agreement that we Do Not want a Republican to succeed Pres. Obama...So, here's to believing all of us opposed to that outcome will coalesce and give, equal vigor and enthusiasm, our backing and our vote to whomever becomes our Democratic candidate.
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If Hillary was in some small way, honest and sincere, you wouldn't have to be concerned, but from what I'm hearing from family and friends, who are lifelong democrats, none will rally behind her, if she becomes the nominee, nor will they switch sides, which means they will write in Bernies name, or not vote at all.
It may mean a Trump win, but sincere seasoned democrats cannot be blamed.
Each and every one has a visceral dislike for the woman, and it gets worse as every day passes, and as the mainstream media continues to try and marginalize Mr. Sanders.
There is no doubt that there is a very concerted effort to maintain the status quo, and prevent any individual who desires to see even the color of equality appear again in the United States, from becoming the next President.
The avariciousness of the Plutocratic Oligarchy running our nation is unholy.
It may mean a Trump win, but sincere seasoned democrats cannot be blamed.
Each and every one has a visceral dislike for the woman, and it gets worse as every day passes, and as the mainstream media continues to try and marginalize Mr. Sanders.
There is no doubt that there is a very concerted effort to maintain the status quo, and prevent any individual who desires to see even the color of equality appear again in the United States, from becoming the next President.
The avariciousness of the Plutocratic Oligarchy running our nation is unholy.
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Wow, what a punch to the gut, Mr. President.
For all of us working so hard to register new (young, minority and previously too disinterested-to-bother) voters, and engage an angry, dropped-out electorate; your alleged comments about Senator Sanders campaign coming to an end, and the need to start backing Hillary Clinton…well, that just sucks the wind out of millions of voters’ sails.
Much of the fervor and interest we have seen in the presidential contest here in NY has been driven by Senator Sanders hope-filled message, and the thrill of actually having a reason to vote for a change - Bernie gets it; finally, an authentic voice that speaks for me, and millions of others.
Bernie’s people are your people, Mr. President – proud of your presidency, appreciative of your even-handedness in this contest. Because your opinion matters so much, a “leaked” endorsement makes it so much more disappointing and damaging to the process.
By adding your respected voice to endless pundit speculation about Hillary’s inevitability, you reinforce the depressing idea that the deck is truly stacked: precisely why many believe true representation is a fairy tale.
Is this how to encourage people to continue to join in the political process; to encourage recently energized voters to stay interested in that process; and to encourage newly minted voters to bother to show up for the upcoming primaries?
Did you hear that sound? It’s millions of us slumping back into our armchairs of apathy.
For all of us working so hard to register new (young, minority and previously too disinterested-to-bother) voters, and engage an angry, dropped-out electorate; your alleged comments about Senator Sanders campaign coming to an end, and the need to start backing Hillary Clinton…well, that just sucks the wind out of millions of voters’ sails.
Much of the fervor and interest we have seen in the presidential contest here in NY has been driven by Senator Sanders hope-filled message, and the thrill of actually having a reason to vote for a change - Bernie gets it; finally, an authentic voice that speaks for me, and millions of others.
Bernie’s people are your people, Mr. President – proud of your presidency, appreciative of your even-handedness in this contest. Because your opinion matters so much, a “leaked” endorsement makes it so much more disappointing and damaging to the process.
By adding your respected voice to endless pundit speculation about Hillary’s inevitability, you reinforce the depressing idea that the deck is truly stacked: precisely why many believe true representation is a fairy tale.
Is this how to encourage people to continue to join in the political process; to encourage recently energized voters to stay interested in that process; and to encourage newly minted voters to bother to show up for the upcoming primaries?
Did you hear that sound? It’s millions of us slumping back into our armchairs of apathy.
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Don"t do it! That is exactly what the political/corporate 'elite' donor class types want you to do.
Stand up and fight back!
Stand up and fight back!
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You're right. Thanks for the reminder of why I got involved to begin with.
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I think it is foolish to think that if Sanders were to back out of the race that Sanders would back Clinton. The majority of them won't.
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Hillary Clinton has been in the halls of power for over a quarter of a century.
And, in that time, she has become very very wealthy.
But what, if anything, has she actually accomplished for average Americans?
And, in that time, she has become very very wealthy.
But what, if anything, has she actually accomplished for average Americans?
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Bernie Sanders has been in politics for 35 years. He is from Brooklyn. Why didn't he stay in NY where he could actually have made a difference, instead of going to Vermont, a lily-white state with less than 650,000 residents? And what, exactly, has he actually accomplished for average Americans in all his years in politics?
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@SYJ,
I guess you didn't read the recent (within last 48 hrs or so) article about Sanders achievements in Congress. Granted, that article was altered negatively to minimize his accomplishments (verifiable fact), but he's done plenty. FYI, I'm speaking as a Black middle aged female feminist Sanders volunteer.
3-18-16@2:16 pm
I guess you didn't read the recent (within last 48 hrs or so) article about Sanders achievements in Congress. Granted, that article was altered negatively to minimize his accomplishments (verifiable fact), but he's done plenty. FYI, I'm speaking as a Black middle aged female feminist Sanders volunteer.
3-18-16@2:16 pm
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LIES and BLOOD PRESSURE and Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton will not become president of the United States of America; mainly because her blood pressure is constantly rising to a level which a doctor may declare dangerous for public office. Perhaps Hillary Clinton takes medication for blood pressure; but medication can run out, or be forgotten, even an insufficient dose can be a problem. Blood pressure may possibly be well hidden for many people, but not forever, and blood pressure could never become the only reason to avoid public office, just a major reason. When Hillary Clinton allows enough lies to be the source of persistent reporters who try to get the truth, then her blood pressure will rise, even high enough to become dangerous. After a possible dangerous level of blood pressure is reached, Hillary Clinton may not have medication readily available, so this possible dangerous level of blood pressure may even lead to a nervous breakdown. Hillary Clinton can never cover-up her lies enough to fool Americans into voting for her to be president, her lies will become too much to hide, as reporters continue to present the truth about her. Hillary Clinton will not be able to hide her lies which may easily cause high blood pressure, even a nervous breakdown.
Hillary Clinton will not become president of the United States of America; mainly because her blood pressure is constantly rising to a level which a doctor may declare dangerous for public office. Perhaps Hillary Clinton takes medication for blood pressure; but medication can run out, or be forgotten, even an insufficient dose can be a problem. Blood pressure may possibly be well hidden for many people, but not forever, and blood pressure could never become the only reason to avoid public office, just a major reason. When Hillary Clinton allows enough lies to be the source of persistent reporters who try to get the truth, then her blood pressure will rise, even high enough to become dangerous. After a possible dangerous level of blood pressure is reached, Hillary Clinton may not have medication readily available, so this possible dangerous level of blood pressure may even lead to a nervous breakdown. Hillary Clinton can never cover-up her lies enough to fool Americans into voting for her to be president, her lies will become too much to hide, as reporters continue to present the truth about her. Hillary Clinton will not be able to hide her lies which may easily cause high blood pressure, even a nervous breakdown.
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What a RIDICULOUS article. He privately tells donors, huh? [And he's "staying out" of the primaries?] What is going on?—the citizens ask.
Hillary Rodham wouldn't even be here this time around if her "sponsor," Mr. Obama, hadn't appointed her Secretary of State in a conciliatory gesture, a position for which she was ill qualified as junior senator from New York and former "first lady".
THIS and the Democratic Party Machine are absolutely NAUSEATING.
Hillary Rodham wouldn't even be here this time around if her "sponsor," Mr. Obama, hadn't appointed her Secretary of State in a conciliatory gesture, a position for which she was ill qualified as junior senator from New York and former "first lady".
THIS and the Democratic Party Machine are absolutely NAUSEATING.
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My name is Ed Coet. I am a retired US Army Intelligence Officer. I was also the Designated Program Manager for a Special Access Program (SAP). SAP’s are so sensitive that even people cannot have accesses to a SAP’s unless they receive a special indoctrination into the SAP Being “read on” for a SAP is far more then acknowledging in writing that you have been briefed on the SAP. It is an in-depth “indoctrination” into the given SAP, and each SAP is itself compartmented separately from other SAPS.
Those tiny few who have access to SAP’s must also endure periodic polygraph tests in addition to the most comprehensive of special background investigations.
To put SAP information in to an unsecured sever like Hillary Clinton’s unsecured server is a class one felony that could, in some cases, result in life in prison. That is because such a compromise is so dangerous that it could and likely will result in the death of people protected by and within the scope of the SAP.
I believe it is inconceivable that if it is verified that Hillary Clinton’s server actually had SAP information on it that she could possibly escape indictment and criminal prosecution.
If the ongoing investigation finds that Hillary Clinton compromised a SAP, she is unfit to hold public office of any kind let alone President of the USA -- and ALL Americans should never tolerate it.
Those tiny few who have access to SAP’s must also endure periodic polygraph tests in addition to the most comprehensive of special background investigations.
To put SAP information in to an unsecured sever like Hillary Clinton’s unsecured server is a class one felony that could, in some cases, result in life in prison. That is because such a compromise is so dangerous that it could and likely will result in the death of people protected by and within the scope of the SAP.
I believe it is inconceivable that if it is verified that Hillary Clinton’s server actually had SAP information on it that she could possibly escape indictment and criminal prosecution.
If the ongoing investigation finds that Hillary Clinton compromised a SAP, she is unfit to hold public office of any kind let alone President of the USA -- and ALL Americans should never tolerate it.
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Obama is supporting Clinton despite these well-known facts:
—He does not like her.
—He does not trust her.
—He knows that she is corrupt.
—He knows that the FBI will recommend indictment
—He knows the Clinton calculated indifference to Rwandan genocide resulted in the deaths of 800,000 blacks. We know he knows because of his public embrace of Samantha Power, whose exposé won a Nobel.
So why is he supporting her?
Remember his round of golf with Bill? His WH lunch with Hillary? You can be sure Hillary's legal jeopardy was the topic of conversation, together with the reminder that he was actively complicit in some of Clinton's crimes and part of a conspiracy of silence in others.
Did he agree to preemptively pardon the Clintons? Can he? In one word—yes. (SCOTUS/1866, Ex parte Garland ruled that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.")
—He does not like her.
—He does not trust her.
—He knows that she is corrupt.
—He knows that the FBI will recommend indictment
—He knows the Clinton calculated indifference to Rwandan genocide resulted in the deaths of 800,000 blacks. We know he knows because of his public embrace of Samantha Power, whose exposé won a Nobel.
So why is he supporting her?
Remember his round of golf with Bill? His WH lunch with Hillary? You can be sure Hillary's legal jeopardy was the topic of conversation, together with the reminder that he was actively complicit in some of Clinton's crimes and part of a conspiracy of silence in others.
Did he agree to preemptively pardon the Clintons? Can he? In one word—yes. (SCOTUS/1866, Ex parte Garland ruled that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.")
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Our system is completely broken - .001% in charge control a pay-to-play prison system, privatized. A pay to play Court system - "privatized". There is no Rule of Law for 99.9% of Americans.
Fully corrupt banking system - the .001% has access to your commercial bank account because Glass-Steagall was removed - no "Wall" between Investment banking/Commercial banking. Glass-Steagall removed in '99 by Pres Clinton.
Why didn't Pres Obama put it back?
Glass–Steagall Act refers to 4 provisions of the U S Banking Act of 1933 that limited commercial bank securities activities and affiliations within commercial banks and securities firms.
Our JUDICIAL system BEYOND corrupt - judges in Manhattan Supreme Court are mostly elected, on the take, beholden to BIG LAW.
We have a system broken from top to bottom - corrupt banks, lawyers, judges, at the top. You cannot expect the people on the "bottom" to hold up the top.
AS a person who has just received a document from a NY Court Judge Drager, on p. 13 her transcript states, on the record, to my question "Why wouldn't I want to preserve my rights?"
Judge Drager "Well, the question is, first of all WHETHER YOU HAVE RIGHTS."
Americans have lost their Constitutional Rights in the political world we are in. If you stand up to it, you're threatened with jail.
The Greedy .001% think like Judge Drager "Well, the question is, first of all WHETHER YOU HAVE RIGHTS."
Americans want our rights back.
Elect Bernie
Fully corrupt banking system - the .001% has access to your commercial bank account because Glass-Steagall was removed - no "Wall" between Investment banking/Commercial banking. Glass-Steagall removed in '99 by Pres Clinton.
Why didn't Pres Obama put it back?
Glass–Steagall Act refers to 4 provisions of the U S Banking Act of 1933 that limited commercial bank securities activities and affiliations within commercial banks and securities firms.
Our JUDICIAL system BEYOND corrupt - judges in Manhattan Supreme Court are mostly elected, on the take, beholden to BIG LAW.
We have a system broken from top to bottom - corrupt banks, lawyers, judges, at the top. You cannot expect the people on the "bottom" to hold up the top.
AS a person who has just received a document from a NY Court Judge Drager, on p. 13 her transcript states, on the record, to my question "Why wouldn't I want to preserve my rights?"
Judge Drager "Well, the question is, first of all WHETHER YOU HAVE RIGHTS."
Americans have lost their Constitutional Rights in the political world we are in. If you stand up to it, you're threatened with jail.
The Greedy .001% think like Judge Drager "Well, the question is, first of all WHETHER YOU HAVE RIGHTS."
Americans want our rights back.
Elect Bernie
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This article is an outright lie. Obama never said anything about backing Clinton.
"President Obama “in fact” didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters.
New York Times reported on Obama’s comments to donors
“I was there for the fundraiser, and I was there when the comments occurred”: Earnest
Obama said “that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee”: Earnest
Earnest declined to say whom Obama voted for in the Ill. primary"
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-...
"President Obama “in fact” didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters.
New York Times reported on Obama’s comments to donors
“I was there for the fundraiser, and I was there when the comments occurred”: Earnest
Obama said “that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee”: Earnest
Earnest declined to say whom Obama voted for in the Ill. primary"
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-...
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In this election, we have an alternative. In Senator Bernie Sanders, we have a truly progressive candidate who has spent 25 years in Congress passing substantive legislation, never wavering from his ethics and principles for the sake of money or power. Unlike past progressive candidates, Senator Sanders has built a strong following, has more than adequate funding, and can handily beat any Republican candidate in the general election. Yet the DNC is supporting--again!--Hillary Clinton"a weak, flawed candidate who constantly flip-flops on crucial issues, has a record of hawkish foreign policy, may be indicted for violations of national security, is in bed with corporate interests, has a consistently unfavorable rating with voters, and will be hard-pressed to beat even the weakest Republican in the general election.
And with every primary that Hillary Clinton wins, even those by slim margins, Bernie Sanders' supporters are increasingly exhorted, threatened, and insulted regarding voting for Clinton in the general election.
Article: The Moral Relativity Principle No Longer Applies to Progressives | OpEdNews
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Moral-Relativity-Princ-by-Nikki-Lam...
And with every primary that Hillary Clinton wins, even those by slim margins, Bernie Sanders' supporters are increasingly exhorted, threatened, and insulted regarding voting for Clinton in the general election.
Article: The Moral Relativity Principle No Longer Applies to Progressives | OpEdNews
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Moral-Relativity-Princ-by-Nikki-Lam...
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Time for a #SandersTrumpDebate
Let's get this trending over the next week. I thought fox called one and trump backed out. It's time for Sanders' message of ending the corruption without blaming the poor to be heard by more people. Also, it would be interesting to see if trump and sway sanders' supporters. They are two sides of the same coin, one being inspired by love and progress and the other by hate and bigotry.
Anyone who supports either candidate would love to see this for their own personal reasons.
It's a shame and a let down that the president is saying this. It is also a shame that the NY Times is such a biased media machine that likes our clicks and comments.
Let's get this trending over the next week. I thought fox called one and trump backed out. It's time for Sanders' message of ending the corruption without blaming the poor to be heard by more people. Also, it would be interesting to see if trump and sway sanders' supporters. They are two sides of the same coin, one being inspired by love and progress and the other by hate and bigotry.
Anyone who supports either candidate would love to see this for their own personal reasons.
It's a shame and a let down that the president is saying this. It is also a shame that the NY Times is such a biased media machine that likes our clicks and comments.
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Bernie has millions of enthusiastic supporters. What he doesn't have is thirty years of name recognition, hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate blood money, a biased media, Wall Street cronies, and the corrupt DNC supporting his every move.
And unfortunately, those are the things that blur the truth and usurp the will of the people.
Let's face it Folks, Hillary is a below mediocre candidate with a history of zero accomplishments that have made life better for most Americans. And all national polls show, that in a general election, she will only serve to motivate those to the polls who oppose her. And, she will likely lose... It is Hillary who should do what's best for America, and get out of the race.
And unfortunately, those are the things that blur the truth and usurp the will of the people.
Let's face it Folks, Hillary is a below mediocre candidate with a history of zero accomplishments that have made life better for most Americans. And all national polls show, that in a general election, she will only serve to motivate those to the polls who oppose her. And, she will likely lose... It is Hillary who should do what's best for America, and get out of the race.
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yet millions fewer than sanders based on the primary vote totals.
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Mr. Obama also does not want to alienate the liberal voters who have flocked to Mr. Sanders.
For me that ship sailed when he sponsored the TPP. I've seen the promotional ads for this corporate Magna Carta and they just smack of propaganda.
For me that ship sailed when he sponsored the TPP. I've seen the promotional ads for this corporate Magna Carta and they just smack of propaganda.
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Here's the gist of my communication to the president. Please write.
Dear President Obama,
I congratulate you on your achievements. As a democrat with opposition from the republicans, you have done an admirable job accomplishing progress on a number of fronts.
I am commenting on an article that you were privately supporting Mrs. Clinton - As a president, your voice carries a lot of gravitas and your actions sway a lot of voters. You are way too much smarter than me and I am sure you know that.
I look forward to voting for Senator Sanders who I believe has a vision similar to you - he wants to use the momentum you have created and take it forward even more aggressively. He has encouraged youth to turn out in large numbers - of course, nobody would argue that your charisma and speeches were exceptional.
I am not familiar with politics and backroom deals. But I would request you not to disenfranchise voters in states that haven't voted - Many people would feel cheated if you have already endorsed Mrs. Clinton implicitly or explicitly.
If people were thinking about marginal victories, we would only have status quo. Who would have thought there could be an opening between USA and Cuba? Who would have thought you would take the first baby step against insurance companies with Obama Care?
Please give Sanders a chance till the convention. He may not be able to compete with the power of the Clinton network - but we would like to have the chance for a change we believe in.
Dear President Obama,
I congratulate you on your achievements. As a democrat with opposition from the republicans, you have done an admirable job accomplishing progress on a number of fronts.
I am commenting on an article that you were privately supporting Mrs. Clinton - As a president, your voice carries a lot of gravitas and your actions sway a lot of voters. You are way too much smarter than me and I am sure you know that.
I look forward to voting for Senator Sanders who I believe has a vision similar to you - he wants to use the momentum you have created and take it forward even more aggressively. He has encouraged youth to turn out in large numbers - of course, nobody would argue that your charisma and speeches were exceptional.
I am not familiar with politics and backroom deals. But I would request you not to disenfranchise voters in states that haven't voted - Many people would feel cheated if you have already endorsed Mrs. Clinton implicitly or explicitly.
If people were thinking about marginal victories, we would only have status quo. Who would have thought there could be an opening between USA and Cuba? Who would have thought you would take the first baby step against insurance companies with Obama Care?
Please give Sanders a chance till the convention. He may not be able to compete with the power of the Clinton network - but we would like to have the chance for a change we believe in.
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@Sri,
It's a good letter. I've just copied it by hand and will use it.
Thank you.
3-18-16@1:15 pm
It's a good letter. I've just copied it by hand and will use it.
Thank you.
3-18-16@1:15 pm
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Drat! This is it for me. I won't vote for Clinton. I'll write in Bernie's name. Here are the reasons why--I hate Obamacare. It is a practical disaster--insurance same as no insurance, runaway drug prices and poor access. We need a single payer system and we need the insurers out of the game. Hillary who now slobbers over Obama will give us more of the same. I don't like Hillary because she's a crook. She seems to have gotten a whole bundle for one speech to Goldman Sachs--she should release the transcript of that speech. Hillary is a hawk. She brought about the Libyan disaster and in the Saudis versus Yemenis war she played her mischief too. That war is a humanitarian disaster for the Yemenis, with the Saudis using bombs and bullets they bought from us, against civilians and especially against the Shias.
When Elizabeth Warren introduced a bill that would prevent CEOs of corporations with golden parachutes from getting into govt. positions Bernie was on board immediately but Hillary hemmed and hawed before she came on board--that's because she practices crony capitalism and she didn't have the heart to negate the ambitions of her Wall Street buddies and contributors. She was against LGBT rights before she was for LGBT rights, she was for zero tolerance under her hubby and hence came a dark phase of arrests for many African Americans. Honduras is another foreign policy disaster for Hillary. God save us from Hillary!
When Elizabeth Warren introduced a bill that would prevent CEOs of corporations with golden parachutes from getting into govt. positions Bernie was on board immediately but Hillary hemmed and hawed before she came on board--that's because she practices crony capitalism and she didn't have the heart to negate the ambitions of her Wall Street buddies and contributors. She was against LGBT rights before she was for LGBT rights, she was for zero tolerance under her hubby and hence came a dark phase of arrests for many African Americans. Honduras is another foreign policy disaster for Hillary. God save us from Hillary!
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Write in votes do not get counted ... GOOGLE it!
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God will save us. If you don't vote for Hillary you will help elect The Donald. How well do you think that will work out for you? Or perhaps you are one of those privileged elites whose life will not be so bad under The Donald and you can always comfort yourself with the thought that at least you kept your ideological purity whiles others suffer. I'll say it again. Hillary is not a perfect candidate (neither is Sanders) but there is simply no comparison between her presidency and that of the The Donald. And if you can't see that you are more deluded than his supporters are.
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When are you going to report this NY Times?
President Obama “in fact” didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters.
Bloomberg News 2:45 PM
President Obama “in fact” didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters.
Bloomberg News 2:45 PM
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I am very disappointed in President Obama. I voted for him twice. Let all the voters have their chance to cast a vote. As far as a united Democratic party, don't hold your breath. The DNC's early coronation, has alienated so many, that many will vote for Trump, instead of hold their nose for HRC.
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One flight-of-fancy to entertain: If the GOP were to dump Trump, and Trump decided to run as a 3rd-party candidate, and if Hillary became the Dem nom, how great would it be if Bernie re-entered as a 4TH-party candidate? That would be a real horse race!
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Bernie bots butt hurt and so jealous. He is done. Move on. Now you are going to attack Obama because he is telling the truth? She won popular votes! Your guy lost big time!!!! Get over it.
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Leon
None of us heard the fat lady sing. It is only the fifth inning in this ballgame, and the sun is shining, so sit down and wait and see what the score is at the end of the ninth.
None of us heard the fat lady sing. It is only the fifth inning in this ballgame, and the sun is shining, so sit down and wait and see what the score is at the end of the ninth.
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Are you a Republican troll or a vindictive Clinton supporter? If you are a Republican I can understand the tone of your post. If you are a Clinton supporter you do no service to your candidate or your party.
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Talking about politics, you have to be not only honest. But you have to be practical, too. Any of you remember how Mr. Kerry lost the general election en 2004? He lost when he talked about women right to abortion. The whole evangelical belt move its forces against him! Any of you recall the ugly battle in 2008 to get Obamacare approved? Two years of discourses, meeting, hearings! Obama spent his political capital and we lost the election in 2010! Do you want more of the same? Can you imagine, just for a minute or two, what the GOP is going to do about a liberal or socialist candidate? Even the dead are going to vote against him! We can not lose this election. No way! No now! We need our party unite now! Tomorrow can be too late!
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Kerry lost because he did not prove (and the facts were available on the LA TIMES website, whicj I communicated to his campaign) that the Swift Boat guys were liars.
The head guy SIGNED his Silver Star commendation in 1971, and the LATimes posted that document as a PDF.
So was that guy lying in 1971 or was he lying in 2004? But kerry never even said a word about that.
He should have pounded W into the ground, and he did not.
Give me a break.
The head guy SIGNED his Silver Star commendation in 1971, and the LATimes posted that document as a PDF.
So was that guy lying in 1971 or was he lying in 2004? But kerry never even said a word about that.
He should have pounded W into the ground, and he did not.
Give me a break.
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HRC can not beat TRUMP her record is too bad, and he his more cunning, and his followers are converting people from [D] to [R] overnight. If we want to win we should have been voting for Bernie. HRC does not stand a chance agains her bestie "The Donald" Well, then again they are one in the same. Donald is a [D] he ran republican because he saw the opponents as week. He's smart I gotta give him credit where credit is due.
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I really appreciate your point of view. Just keep in mind something: Kerry's defeat in 2004 has multiple explanations. The issue you mention is just one of them. And, to answer your question, I recommend this link, among various you can find out: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/washington/28kerry.html?sq=&pagewa....
But that is not the point. The point I am trying to make is that we, as a people, can not afford to lose again. As Mr. Obama suggests, is better to focus just on one candidate, to unite forces against the GOP machine, because the only thing they offer is hatred, division, fear, bias against religions, women, immigrants. Thank you!
But that is not the point. The point I am trying to make is that we, as a people, can not afford to lose again. As Mr. Obama suggests, is better to focus just on one candidate, to unite forces against the GOP machine, because the only thing they offer is hatred, division, fear, bias against religions, women, immigrants. Thank you!
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Yet another NY Times "report" that, using anonymous sources (no doubt Clinton backers), promotes Clinton, the Times editorial pick months ago. And it represents the shilling passing as journalism which has constantly disparaged the Sanders campaign while giving Clinton a pass on the very things that make her the weak candidate of entitlement she is.
It is hardly news that President Obama, an historic president for obvious reasons, continues to demostrate that he's proven to be little more than a Clinton clone from his early appointments (Summers, Geithner, Emanuel) to his incredible concessions on health care (no single payer offering), use of drones, and more.
It is hardly news that President Obama, an historic president for obvious reasons, continues to demostrate that he's proven to be little more than a Clinton clone from his early appointments (Summers, Geithner, Emanuel) to his incredible concessions on health care (no single payer offering), use of drones, and more.
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Another NYT lie about Sanders. The White House has denied that Obama said any such thing. NYT, your Hillary-bias is on show, AGAIN, even when you are not editing your own coverage to boost HRC. Once upon a time, the NYT was a fine newspaper. Now, it is just another partisan rag.
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If you liked Bill Clinton's NAFTA, welfare-to-work (so-called) reform policies, Glass-Steagall repeal, last-minute pay-for-pardons, etc. - just wait until you see Hillary's to-do list. No thanks!
Still feeling the Bern!
Still feeling the Bern!
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Seeing the massive enthusiastic crowds Bernie draws at every event, and comparing them to the modest gatherings at Hillary's events, could make one wonder why these voters never seem to show up on election day?
Could there be similarities to Florida, circa 2000?
Could there be similarities to Florida, circa 2000?
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The White House has denied it indicated a preference for Hillary.
Once again it appears the NY Times is manipulating the electorate, this time by deliberately lying to its readers, on its front page.
Excerpt and Guardian link:
"The White House on Thursday said Obama did not indicate which candidate he preferred in his remarks to the donors."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/18/bernie-sanders-absurd-dro...
Once again it appears the NY Times is manipulating the electorate, this time by deliberately lying to its readers, on its front page.
Excerpt and Guardian link:
"The White House on Thursday said Obama did not indicate which candidate he preferred in his remarks to the donors."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/18/bernie-sanders-absurd-dro...
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@Mel Farrell,
If that's true, can the White House sue the NYT for misrepresentation? My question is NOT rhetorical.
3-18-16@2:44 pm
If that's true, can the White House sue the NYT for misrepresentation? My question is NOT rhetorical.
3-18-16@2:44 pm
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Both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party serve the same Clients-the 1%. The rest of us are the "customers." We are the ones who pay for everything.
The entire dog and pony show is nothing but a Broker-Client razzle dazzle with the psychologically disarmed public in complete suspension of dis-belief. Whatever the media tells us we believe.
The Wizard of Oz meets Madison Avenue Marketing.
Bernie and Trump have both parties scared out of their wits. President Obama wants to use his muscle to declare a winner of the Democratic Primary in the middle of March!
What would Thomas Jefferson think of that? Why don't we just have a return to Aristocracy? Let's return to the old days when birth and bloodline were the only qualifications.
The entire dog and pony show is nothing but a Broker-Client razzle dazzle with the psychologically disarmed public in complete suspension of dis-belief. Whatever the media tells us we believe.
The Wizard of Oz meets Madison Avenue Marketing.
Bernie and Trump have both parties scared out of their wits. President Obama wants to use his muscle to declare a winner of the Democratic Primary in the middle of March!
What would Thomas Jefferson think of that? Why don't we just have a return to Aristocracy? Let's return to the old days when birth and bloodline were the only qualifications.
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I am very glad that president Obama finally spoke in favor of Hillary Clinton. It is time for Sanders to get out of the race.
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@SCH,
If you respect full citizenship, including the right of all citizens to be heard via their votes before the convention, you'd respect those who's states haven't voted yet. Your comment suggests the opposite. Your comment suggests contempt for those who've not yet voted, which implies contempt for full citizenship.
3-18-16@2:07 pm
If you respect full citizenship, including the right of all citizens to be heard via their votes before the convention, you'd respect those who's states haven't voted yet. Your comment suggests the opposite. Your comment suggests contempt for those who've not yet voted, which implies contempt for full citizenship.
3-18-16@2:07 pm
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Hillary's highly publicized concern for the poisoned children in Flint Michigan disappeared as soon as the Michigan Primary was over.
And that, my friends, sums up Hillary's entire political career as well as anything else.
And that, my friends, sums up Hillary's entire political career as well as anything else.
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Yes, it certainly does.
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I come from a long line of Democrats on both sides of my family but there is a zero percent chance that I will support Hillary Clinton with a vote. The way that the Clintons and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz manipulated the process of vetting potential candidates puts me off to no end. That and the incredible amount of doublespeak which spills forth from her. And Democrats need to unify behind her now? How long did she persist in her 2008 primary campaign against Obama after it was clear she was not the favorite? Until June? Let us give Bernie until June then. I am sure Bernie's candidacy at this point is aimed at affecting real political discourse as opposed to leveraging his way into a cabinet position. Faced with a choice between Clinton and Trump, I can only pray that a viable third party candidate emerges. Under no circumstance will I vote for Hillary Clinton in any situation. Choosing the lesser of two evils is a false choice and a game in which I will not partake.
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Oh yes.Let us unite behind the anointed one. And pundits wonder why voter turn out is so low. And yes, there has been a Bernie Sanders blackout.
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I've been raking my brain for about a half hour trying to come up with adequate words for this lurid, twitching, malodorous, intestine-spilling wreck now known as the Land of the Free's electoral process. The vision of Thomas L.'s always-irritating thumbnail, now smugly rubbing its hands over that little bit of TPP cleverness the other day, does little to either detract from my chagrin or aid my concentration.
More than a year's workingman's earnings a plate? Super-delegates? Whatever happened to one "man" one vote?
As I've been indicating for some time, 2008's Golden Boy appears to have been cast from a look-alike metal. Not wasting any more Brasso on that one. "Yes We Can" has morphed into "Yes You Will". Whoever said power doesn't corrupt. Oh, I forgot. Nobody.
Speaking of ancient axioms, there's another one that states "Bullies are cowards." The TPP being rammed down everyone's throats without any consultation was based on Obama's expressed fear that if "we" (i.e. "he") didn't set the rules, the Chinese would. Where does caution end and cowardice begin? Bernie may not be perfect, but could well grow into the job. To now prematurely throw him under the bus at the mere specter of a Trump nomination, let alone ludicrous prospect of a general election victory, is not only craven but, given Hillary's profound and INTRACTABLE flaws, unprincipled in the extreme.
As on another prime occasion or two I can think of, maybe he should just have kept his mouth shut.
More than a year's workingman's earnings a plate? Super-delegates? Whatever happened to one "man" one vote?
As I've been indicating for some time, 2008's Golden Boy appears to have been cast from a look-alike metal. Not wasting any more Brasso on that one. "Yes We Can" has morphed into "Yes You Will". Whoever said power doesn't corrupt. Oh, I forgot. Nobody.
Speaking of ancient axioms, there's another one that states "Bullies are cowards." The TPP being rammed down everyone's throats without any consultation was based on Obama's expressed fear that if "we" (i.e. "he") didn't set the rules, the Chinese would. Where does caution end and cowardice begin? Bernie may not be perfect, but could well grow into the job. To now prematurely throw him under the bus at the mere specter of a Trump nomination, let alone ludicrous prospect of a general election victory, is not only craven but, given Hillary's profound and INTRACTABLE flaws, unprincipled in the extreme.
As on another prime occasion or two I can think of, maybe he should just have kept his mouth shut.
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Frauke
You wrote a beautiful comment. I agree 100%. I wish I could "recommend" more than once. I guess I would have to pay $33,400 to have that privilege.
You wrote a beautiful comment. I agree 100%. I wish I could "recommend" more than once. I guess I would have to pay $33,400 to have that privilege.
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@Frauke,
I voted for Obama 2x and I can't believe this article. It is beyond the pale. I agree with Joe From Boston, but with a slight modification of your comment: what ever happened to one person one vote? Isn't voting supposed to be one of the main rights, if not the most important rights of citizenship-including primaries and causes in all U.S. states, etc?
3-18-16@1:29 pm
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I voted for Obama 2x and I can't believe this article. It is beyond the pale. I agree with Joe From Boston, but with a slight modification of your comment: what ever happened to one person one vote? Isn't voting supposed to be one of the main rights, if not the most important rights of citizenship-including primaries and causes in all U.S. states, etc?
3-18-16@1:29 pm
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It ain't happening. The comment reflects poorly on Obama. Hillary is a great lady but Bernie has a better message.
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Let's assume this is what Obama said. I vehemently disagree and find it offensive, because there's the suggestion that Bernie supporters have been swayed by a singular and impertinent quality. There's the suggestion that Bernie supporters are naive, shallow thinkers. The comparison between Bernie and Bush is inapt. In this present situation there's a direct correlation between trust, integrity, and policy making. Additionally, Bernie supporters have seriously considered the numbers. They are asking themselves which Democratic candidate has the best chance of defeating the likely Republican candidate, factoring in the considerable and undeniable hatred the average Republican has for Hillary. Bernie supporters are clear and determined, unwilling to get caught up in this sexism conversation, recognizing it as a deflection in the face of legitimate concerns and inconvenient truths. We couldn't care less about gender. The same can't be said for many of her supporters, who clearly are supportive of her primarily because she's a woman. Who is REALLY caught up in gender here? Who is trotting out the Katy Perrys, the Gloria Steinems, and the 'mothers' of young African-Americans who've been killed by law enforcement in recent years? Get honest and get real here! Bernie supporters are not willing to leave off serious concerns about the economy and integrity of this country for the sake of an historical achievement.
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@igotplans2,
Thank God I found your comment (again). To say that you have spoken for me and spoken WELL is putting it mildly. Including what you said about Gloria Steinem, an activist who, though I've admired her for many years, surprised and puzzled me with her words.
if Sanders voters are swayed by impertinence then the act of voting for one's preferred candidate, indeed the concept of full citizenship, which is largely defined by the right to vote at each opportunity, is impertinent. If Sanders voters can't voice legitimate and factual problems with Hillary by voting in all states without an intrusive attempt at influence from the president, in all states before the convention, then what does that say about this nation?
3-18-16@1:58 pm
Thank God I found your comment (again). To say that you have spoken for me and spoken WELL is putting it mildly. Including what you said about Gloria Steinem, an activist who, though I've admired her for many years, surprised and puzzled me with her words.
if Sanders voters are swayed by impertinence then the act of voting for one's preferred candidate, indeed the concept of full citizenship, which is largely defined by the right to vote at each opportunity, is impertinent. If Sanders voters can't voice legitimate and factual problems with Hillary by voting in all states without an intrusive attempt at influence from the president, in all states before the convention, then what does that say about this nation?
3-18-16@1:58 pm
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Perhaps the following report is why he is hedging -
"The FBI is widening its investigation of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account while she was U.S. secretary of state to determine whether any public corruption laws were violated, Fox News reported on Monday.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been looking into whether classified material was mishandled during Clinton's tenure at the State Department from 2009-2013.
It will expand its probe by examining possible overlap of the Clinton Foundation charity with State Department business, Fox reported, citing three unidentified intelligence officials.
"The [FBI] agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed," Fox quoted one of its unidentified sources as saying.
The FBI and the State Department had no immediate comment on the report. The Clinton campaign didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus issued a statement calling the Fox News report "a very troubling development."
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-2...
"The FBI is widening its investigation of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's use of a private email account while she was U.S. secretary of state to determine whether any public corruption laws were violated, Fox News reported on Monday.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has been looking into whether classified material was mishandled during Clinton's tenure at the State Department from 2009-2013.
It will expand its probe by examining possible overlap of the Clinton Foundation charity with State Department business, Fox reported, citing three unidentified intelligence officials.
"The [FBI] agents are investigating the possible intersection of Clinton Foundation donations, the dispensation of State Department contracts and whether regular processes were followed," Fox quoted one of its unidentified sources as saying.
The FBI and the State Department had no immediate comment on the report. The Clinton campaign didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus issued a statement calling the Fox News report "a very troubling development."
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-hillary-clinton-email-investigation-2...
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I support Beenie Sanders.
If you buy what Fox is selling, I own a bridge in New York City that spans the East River that I will sell you, cheap.
If you buy what Fox is selling, I own a bridge in New York City that spans the East River that I will sell you, cheap.
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Based upon President Obama's reported comments indicating that he sees no impediments to a Clinton nomination, the rigging of the FBI investigation is likely a done deal. It is more than likely that the reports of a serious FBI investigation are merely a show, intended to fool Americans into believing that there really is a rule of law.
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Not a Fox acolyte by any measure; still where there is smoke, there may be fire.
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If you listen to the question that was asked of White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, he didn't say the President didn't "in fact" endorse HRC. He said, he didn't "in fact" say what the reporter asked. Then he chose the rest of his words very carefully. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
Our president shouldn't have even come close to saying anything like an endorsement of Hillary. I feel like he with the help of the NYTs has unduly influenced voters and has potentially, in effect, helped to disenfranchise millions of voters. The comparison of Bernie to George Bush shows a disregard for facts and is disappointing coming from such an intelligent and articulate man. No wonder people are frustrated with our prevaricating politicians, their press secretaries and the slanted MSM.
If he didn't say, in any way, what the NYTs is claiming he said, the story should be retracted.
I'm still voting for Bernie.
Our president shouldn't have even come close to saying anything like an endorsement of Hillary. I feel like he with the help of the NYTs has unduly influenced voters and has potentially, in effect, helped to disenfranchise millions of voters. The comparison of Bernie to George Bush shows a disregard for facts and is disappointing coming from such an intelligent and articulate man. No wonder people are frustrated with our prevaricating politicians, their press secretaries and the slanted MSM.
If he didn't say, in any way, what the NYTs is claiming he said, the story should be retracted.
I'm still voting for Bernie.
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What a joke. It's not an election, it's a coronation.
Why do "ordinary" democrats even bother to vote?
Why do "ordinary" democrats even bother to vote?
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The night Barack Obama was elected I wept with gratitude. Friends drove overnight from Toronto to Chicago to witness the historic event. Maybe the young black men in places like Cabrini Green might have a chance to dream big dreams.
But then reality: Wall Streeter Timothy Geithner, Guantanamo and the elevation to State of Hillary Clinton, a neo-liberal war hawk. Something very toxic happens in Washington to people who win.
Obamacare, a far cry from socialized medicine, keeps profits for private insurers at play and is not even close to what other western democracies like Canada have.
Obama, the appropriately angry black man, the reader of Reinhold Neihbuhr, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize became another enabler of cynicism.
Now his sneaky, behind-the-scenes support for Hillary against Bernie Sanders, a man who has steadfastly, for decades not yielded, will sully Obama's legacy.
Bill Clinton began the abandonment of the poor in favour of technocrats and Wall Street, Obama perpetuated it and Hillary will finish that work. Ask Thomas Frank.
30 per cent of Bernie voters say they won’t vote for her. Her unresolved scandals at the Clinton Foundation (subpoena) and emails (immunity to staffer) should have prevented her from even running. The repubs will crush her. She is unelectable.
It’s not the end of the world as we know it, to quote Michael Stipe (who supports Bernie) but it sure feels that way. Hello President Trump.
But then reality: Wall Streeter Timothy Geithner, Guantanamo and the elevation to State of Hillary Clinton, a neo-liberal war hawk. Something very toxic happens in Washington to people who win.
Obamacare, a far cry from socialized medicine, keeps profits for private insurers at play and is not even close to what other western democracies like Canada have.
Obama, the appropriately angry black man, the reader of Reinhold Neihbuhr, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize became another enabler of cynicism.
Now his sneaky, behind-the-scenes support for Hillary against Bernie Sanders, a man who has steadfastly, for decades not yielded, will sully Obama's legacy.
Bill Clinton began the abandonment of the poor in favour of technocrats and Wall Street, Obama perpetuated it and Hillary will finish that work. Ask Thomas Frank.
30 per cent of Bernie voters say they won’t vote for her. Her unresolved scandals at the Clinton Foundation (subpoena) and emails (immunity to staffer) should have prevented her from even running. The repubs will crush her. She is unelectable.
It’s not the end of the world as we know it, to quote Michael Stipe (who supports Bernie) but it sure feels that way. Hello President Trump.
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The Democratic leadership - the DLC, DNC, New Democrats, etc - is delusional. Polls (Quinnipiac, CNN, WSJ, RealClearPolitics) have been consistently showing since early February that in a general election, Hillary might be able to squeak by Trump, but would lose to any of the other rethug nominees. The same polls also show that about 33% of Sanders supporters will not support Hillary in the general. And judging from what I see on social media, that 33% figure is way low.
Sanders on the other hand, handily defeats any and all of the possible rethug nominees in all of those polls.
Combine that with the fact that the RNC committee members have been saying recently that the party, not the voters determine the rethug nominee.
They aren't going to let their party be ruined by Donald Trump.
But it would seem that for the New Democrats, it's more important to maintain control of the party than to win the November election. And if winning is not their first priority then it sure isn't mine either.
The numbers don't lie. If Hillary is nominated, she will lose. It's hard for a lot of people to accept, but those are the facts. To Hillary supporters I say: You have been warned. The coming Democratic defeat in November is on you and no one else.
Sanders on the other hand, handily defeats any and all of the possible rethug nominees in all of those polls.
Combine that with the fact that the RNC committee members have been saying recently that the party, not the voters determine the rethug nominee.
They aren't going to let their party be ruined by Donald Trump.
But it would seem that for the New Democrats, it's more important to maintain control of the party than to win the November election. And if winning is not their first priority then it sure isn't mine either.
The numbers don't lie. If Hillary is nominated, she will lose. It's hard for a lot of people to accept, but those are the facts. To Hillary supporters I say: You have been warned. The coming Democratic defeat in November is on you and no one else.
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I suggested the quixotic (to use a now popular term) idea that Bernie make a deal with republicans by challenging them to field a 3rd (or 4th, Bernie being 3rd) party candidate and jointly persuading the electorate opposing both Trump and Hillary (well over 50%, and I suspect as much as 75%) to choose between Bernie and the best alternative to Trump the Republicans can come up with. Seems farfetched, but once the Republicans choose their Trump alternative, they can present ads appearing together urging Americans to reject Hillary and Trump and choose between these better alternatives.
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With turnout numbers in swing states such as Virginia, Ohio, Missouri showing Republican turnout swamping Democratic turnout, equaling or exceeding President Obama's 2008 landslide year, the writing is definitely on the wall for the Democratic party in November. What these numbers have been showing is that even if every Sanders voter voted for Clinton (should she be nominated) she would still lose.
Ohio
Republican 2.1 million
Democratic 1.2 million (Sanders 514000)
Virginia
Republican 1.1 million
Democratic 780000 (Sanders 276000)
Missouri
Republican 950000 thousand
Democratic 620000 (Sanders 310000)
Ohio
Republican 2.1 million
Democratic 1.2 million (Sanders 514000)
Virginia
Republican 1.1 million
Democratic 780000 (Sanders 276000)
Missouri
Republican 950000 thousand
Democratic 620000 (Sanders 310000)
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I think this is exactly where America is headed eventually.
We will have a much healthier democracy and government when we finally adopt a multi-party system - which is very similar to what you are suggesting.
2 things that we have to reverse first:
1. In 1988, the two 'major parties' colluded to take control of presidential debates away from the League of Women Voters specifically so they could exclude 3rd parties and also so they could control the format, moderators and questions asked during the debates. The debates are now controlled by the Commission on Presidential Debates, stuffed with pro-corporate Rs and Ds.
2. In every state, the Rs and Ds have passed numerous laws which make it next to impossible for any other party to get on the ballot.
Without those two changes, most of the American people will never even know what other parties/candidates are out there. If the election of 2016 doesn't cure America of it's addiction to the two party system, I don't know what will. I think people are sick and fed up with these silly and very dangerous shenanigans.
We will have a much healthier democracy and government when we finally adopt a multi-party system - which is very similar to what you are suggesting.
2 things that we have to reverse first:
1. In 1988, the two 'major parties' colluded to take control of presidential debates away from the League of Women Voters specifically so they could exclude 3rd parties and also so they could control the format, moderators and questions asked during the debates. The debates are now controlled by the Commission on Presidential Debates, stuffed with pro-corporate Rs and Ds.
2. In every state, the Rs and Ds have passed numerous laws which make it next to impossible for any other party to get on the ballot.
Without those two changes, most of the American people will never even know what other parties/candidates are out there. If the election of 2016 doesn't cure America of it's addiction to the two party system, I don't know what will. I think people are sick and fed up with these silly and very dangerous shenanigans.
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thought this story was retracted by president obama claiming he didn't mention either person.
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It's being reported widely in the media that mr Obama said those things. Terrible judgement.
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the reports are false.
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The President owes Bernie Sanders a public apology. Until now, I've been a firm Obama supporter but unless he apologies I can't continue to respect him. I've been a lifelong Democrat but this forces me to consider leaving the party. I don't see how I can vote for Clinton in a general election if comparing Sanders to Former President Bush is how Democrats garner support for her. Sanders has been running a clean campaign - trying to engage with issues instead of stooping to kinds of remarks the President made. I'm deeply disappointed and about now, not feeling to good about calling myself a Democrat.
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worst of all is the increasing ubiquity (Sanders being a notable exception) of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" corruption, reaching absolutely to the top. For months Clinton has been hiding her Goldman Sachs speeches, which doubtless convey this exact message (she got $675,000 of scratching for the 3 speeches, no doubt a taste of what she can expect in the decades following her presidency: a trust fund for generations), and now that her platform has amounted 99% to retaining and burnishing Obama's legacy, and never seriously considering whether ACA ("Obamacare") may be a mere band-aid or half measure that should be replaced with Single Payer. The deal she has been striking with Obama is very clear: "I won't tamper with your signature accomplishment, I'll honor you as my model, and make my presidency a continuation and enhancement of your legacy, a virtual 3rd term by proxy." The quid pro quo has become all too apparent: anointment by Obama as his legitimate heir.
Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading?
I've bleeping had it.
Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading? Is there end to any of this bleeping horse-trading?
I've bleeping had it.
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I'll try this again...
Hillary's history of undying support for bogus wars, bogus trade agreements, and Wall Street thieves have certainly made things worse for average Americans... That said, can anyone out there name one real Hillary accomplishment that actually made lives better for average Americans?
I'm waiting...
Hillary's history of undying support for bogus wars, bogus trade agreements, and Wall Street thieves have certainly made things worse for average Americans... That said, can anyone out there name one real Hillary accomplishment that actually made lives better for average Americans?
I'm waiting...
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I hope you can hear me over the crickets chirping but I'd also like to know what policiy issues she has that are better than Bernie? Oh that's right she is lip syncing Bernie's positions Hilly Vanilli style. The Democrats throwing their own under the bus is a HUGE mistake. Make fun and pretend to be the "concerned adult" in the room and you will lose far more than you gain. You forget we are also liberals and we know snark when we see it. It is not a threat or a joke. It is a fact. If Hillary wins we will stay home. That will effect the down races of Hillary supporters. The new influx of youth voters will have been squandered. Who knows when they will be back. A dog and pony show is not what they had in mind. If we are not represented then we have no responsibility to you. It is on you.
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As the Senator for NY, she assisted in the naming of two post offices, or was it three, oh I apologize, you had asked for a "real" accomplishment.
Nope, sorry, I looked high and low, except she has successfully emulated Boss Tweed of Tammany Hall infamy, the corrupt NY Democratic political machine of the late 1850's.
That can be called an accomplishment, albeit nefarious, especially since it's now apparent the entire system is on-board with her.
Nope, sorry, I looked high and low, except she has successfully emulated Boss Tweed of Tammany Hall infamy, the corrupt NY Democratic political machine of the late 1850's.
That can be called an accomplishment, albeit nefarious, especially since it's now apparent the entire system is on-board with her.
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Well, I don't have the price of admission ($33,000 per head), but this article makes me (a 74 year old woman) eager to push the Act Blue button for Bernie again - at $27 each time. The implication seems to be that it's perfectly okay to manipulate the voting process in both parties, but in different ways. President Obama may have chosen his words "carefully", but the implication was clear...the later voting states should just toss it in. Well, no thanks.
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Obama follows the party line...one wonders if the military is putting pressure on the Dems to not have Sanders in power...also, not very respectful to do this before the convention...
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Military loves Sanders for his work with vets. Good generals hate war. So does Bernie.
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Bernie Sanders has a much higher IQ than Hillary. Integrity Quotient.
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Do we want a President who wants the Presidency so badly that she will do and say anything to win, including shamelessly telling blatant falsehoods about Senator Sanders? Will she stop lying once she is President?
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Reportedly? And "they took his comments to mean..."? If this had been recorded say on a hidden cell phone video I would believe it. Otherwise, seems like a lot of innuendo to me.
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Not everybody has heard Bernie's important message yet. He needs to keep delivering it, and Hillary, when president, needs to implement it.
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Obama just dropped about 40 points in my view. He didn't give up, why should Bernie?
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Here's the horrible truth many Democrats are completely missing. Hillary's "don't expect much" campaign is pretty much a retread of her 2008 message. That time she was running against "Hope and Change", remember?
She thought it was naive to talk to your adversaries, like Cuba and Iran.
She did not think going after Bin Laden was a priority.
She did not want to pull out of Iraq, let alone Afghanistan.
Closing Guantanamo Bay prison was not a priority.
She did not think Affordable Healthcare legislation would ever make it through Congress, and came up with a patchy version after Obama's campaign got traction.
She was pro-DOMA, thought Obama could not repeal DADT.
She dismissed Obama as a naive man with lofty rhetoric (I am skipping the use of quotation marks to keep things simple to read) and zero legislative accomplishment or experience.
She presented herself as a longtime worker who had achieved victories for the people and KNEW how to get things done.
She lost. he won, and we got Affordable Care Act passed, we found Bin Laden and brought him to justice, we pulled the troops out of Iraq. still trying to close Gitmo, after Kerry became SoS we have opened up Cuba, nuclear deal with Iran. Gay Marriage, etc etc...
I see one condescending post after another from pro-Hillary folks bashing the Sanders supporters. Did you folks think back to 2008 to see if Hillary has learned anything at all from the experience? She was anti-Hope then and she is "Hope less" now. Vote Hope!!!
She thought it was naive to talk to your adversaries, like Cuba and Iran.
She did not think going after Bin Laden was a priority.
She did not want to pull out of Iraq, let alone Afghanistan.
Closing Guantanamo Bay prison was not a priority.
She did not think Affordable Healthcare legislation would ever make it through Congress, and came up with a patchy version after Obama's campaign got traction.
She was pro-DOMA, thought Obama could not repeal DADT.
She dismissed Obama as a naive man with lofty rhetoric (I am skipping the use of quotation marks to keep things simple to read) and zero legislative accomplishment or experience.
She presented herself as a longtime worker who had achieved victories for the people and KNEW how to get things done.
She lost. he won, and we got Affordable Care Act passed, we found Bin Laden and brought him to justice, we pulled the troops out of Iraq. still trying to close Gitmo, after Kerry became SoS we have opened up Cuba, nuclear deal with Iran. Gay Marriage, etc etc...
I see one condescending post after another from pro-Hillary folks bashing the Sanders supporters. Did you folks think back to 2008 to see if Hillary has learned anything at all from the experience? She was anti-Hope then and she is "Hope less" now. Vote Hope!!!
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oh come on, give her credit for dropping the lie about how she landed in Bosnia under fire power.
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I'm surprised. Goldman Sachs thinks that it's time to come together to back Goldman Sachs. And with no irony at all, if this becomes Cruz against HRC in the general election: Goldman Sachs wins.
It's no wonder Goldman Sachs thinks authenticity is over-rated: it gets in the way of doing business.
It's no wonder Goldman Sachs thinks authenticity is over-rated: it gets in the way of doing business.
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All of this is still only an interpretation by the NYTimes in yet another endless gesture of promoting HRC over Bernie Sanders, of President Obama's message to those present, "official sources" included. Also, if big HRC doners attended the event, those interviewed of course interpreted Mr. Obama's remarks to the detriment of Mr. Sanders. HRC is so repugnant to me I can only print her initials. I Will Never cast a vote for her. The "write-in" option remains on every ballot, at least until the Democratic Committee manages to change those rules.
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According to Josh Earnest, apparently the President did NOT do this: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-...
It's hard to know who to believe, isn't it? If the NYT can substantially edit posted news stories and major networks edit posted interviews it's hard to know who or what to give credence to. Trying to teach my students about journalism and bias and fact-checking these days is a nightmare.
It's hard to know who to believe, isn't it? If the NYT can substantially edit posted news stories and major networks edit posted interviews it's hard to know who or what to give credence to. Trying to teach my students about journalism and bias and fact-checking these days is a nightmare.
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While it's clear Clinton possesses a large lead in both delegates and total votes for the nomination, I think everyone watching the issue has been remiss in noticing that her landslide victories -- the ones that give her an overwhelming lead rather than meager one -- have been in deeply red states that have not yielded a single electoral to a democratic president since Carter in '76.
I think we need to be careful when we estimate what Clinton's lead really means. All of the southern states have voted, but the majority of the blue and purple liberal states (the ones that elect democratic presidents) have not yet spoken. Sanders has performed as well as or better than Clinton in these states, particularly among new voters (young millennials) and independent swing voters. These voting blocs may be fragile and prone to disenfranchisement. Shooing in Clinton without letting them have a vigorous push for their candidate may inspire a lot of them to write-in Jill Stein, or worse, defect to Trump.
Clinton's "authenticity" problem is not that big of a deal in Washington. But to the narrow group of people who swing an election, it's a very important thing. Do I need to remind anyone that 8 years of Bush -- hailed as "authentic" by Obama in this very article -- came from a mere shortage of 500 Florida Gore votes in 2000? 97,488 Floridians votes for Nader in 2000. If even 500 of them had found Gore more "authentic", we might not be in such a present-day mess.
I think we need to be careful when we estimate what Clinton's lead really means. All of the southern states have voted, but the majority of the blue and purple liberal states (the ones that elect democratic presidents) have not yet spoken. Sanders has performed as well as or better than Clinton in these states, particularly among new voters (young millennials) and independent swing voters. These voting blocs may be fragile and prone to disenfranchisement. Shooing in Clinton without letting them have a vigorous push for their candidate may inspire a lot of them to write-in Jill Stein, or worse, defect to Trump.
Clinton's "authenticity" problem is not that big of a deal in Washington. But to the narrow group of people who swing an election, it's a very important thing. Do I need to remind anyone that 8 years of Bush -- hailed as "authentic" by Obama in this very article -- came from a mere shortage of 500 Florida Gore votes in 2000? 97,488 Floridians votes for Nader in 2000. If even 500 of them had found Gore more "authentic", we might not be in such a present-day mess.
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If President Obama and the Democratic establishment are worried that Clinton will come off looking like a weaker candidate the longer this drags out (Sanders, by my estimation, has a legitimate chance to win 17 out of the 24 states that have yet to vote), then they should realize that her weaknesses have been there from the get-go and, if not exposed and attacked by Sanders, will be mercilessly exposed and attacked by the Republican nominee in the fall. Sanders staying in the race would in fact do Clinton a favor by giving her opportunities to effectively address these weaknesses before the Republican hit machine comes for her. She certainly can't do that if she suddenly runs unopposed.
If, on the other hand, President Obama and the Democratic establishment are worried that Sanders will force Clinton to run further to the left, and will lead to the party platform running further to the left, than they'd like, then that will confirm the worst suspicions that many liberals have about President Obama and about the Democratic leadership as a whole dating back to the Bill Clinton presidency: that they've sold out traditional Democratic Party principles to get into bed with Wall Street and other moneyed interests at the expense of the little guy. The platform battle in Philly this July will be the most important that the Democratic Party has faced in quite some time.
If, on the other hand, President Obama and the Democratic establishment are worried that Sanders will force Clinton to run further to the left, and will lead to the party platform running further to the left, than they'd like, then that will confirm the worst suspicions that many liberals have about President Obama and about the Democratic leadership as a whole dating back to the Bill Clinton presidency: that they've sold out traditional Democratic Party principles to get into bed with Wall Street and other moneyed interests at the expense of the little guy. The platform battle in Philly this July will be the most important that the Democratic Party has faced in quite some time.
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Bernie seems like a stubborn old man, so he'll stay in the race even though he has no chance. If he cared more about the Democratic Party than himself, he would get out and help it unite against the crazies.
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HRC lacks charm but has experience - and a lot of it.
Up against Trump? Saunders gets shredded as grandpa from a small all-white state with a program to enlarge a government that few people trust.
Clinton, on the other hand, has substantial experience as a senator, statesman and part of the executive branch.
Up against Trump? Saunders gets shredded as grandpa from a small all-white state with a program to enlarge a government that few people trust.
Clinton, on the other hand, has substantial experience as a senator, statesman and part of the executive branch.
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Mr O does not want to alienate liberal voters who support Bernie Sanders. Well, he just has.
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Just contributed AGAIN to Bernie's campaign right after I read this article. Amazing how Bernie has done so well even despite all the odds against him.... mostly the media (including the NY Times). People in Washington and the news media ought to pay attention because the people of this country are very, very angry with the politicians we have, including Hillary.
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the "donors" were already in HIllary Clinton's pockets already.
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Of course the DNC favor Secretary Clinton.She is the true Democratic candidate.Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat.He is only passing himself off as one in order to further himself on in his carreer.Ms.Clinton is a true Democrat.What makes Sanders think he can win without the required number of Delegates?He has his head so far in the clouds that he cant even think straight.If he ever could.He is pathetic.
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If Wall Street cronyism and support for wars based on lies now defines the Democratic Party, then, of course, you are right.
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This does not and never has defined the Democratic Party.We are not the Party who is always pushing for war.that is the GOP.
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Looks like Hillary is campaigning for the pity vote. Oh dear, she is not a good campaigner like Bill or Barrack or a good politician either. So said one of her advisers/reps on cable. Those are certainly a good (?) qualifications. The venal Hillary (paid herself a salary $250K from campaign funds) certainly has "To work harder" whatever that means in a political campaign to convince people who do not like her to vote for her. Or so says the media which beyond this statement is clueless as to how to accomplish this. I guess a miracle would help. Not likely! Of course maybe if we re arrange the deck chairs ...........
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Mr. President: You campaigned and rallied people behind you on the anti-war message, and now you want people to support your very opponent who voted for war, just for the sake of winning votes and elections. And how convenient it is for you to say that authencity doesn't matter, now that your turn is over.
Feel sorry to have voted for a hypocrat in the past, but surely not voting for someone looking for a promotion after failing to make a worst judgement on war that brought so much suffering among the human race.
There are people who believe in authencity, and they will stand alone for the cause, and if that means they have to choose not to vote.
Feel sorry to have voted for a hypocrat in the past, but surely not voting for someone looking for a promotion after failing to make a worst judgement on war that brought so much suffering among the human race.
There are people who believe in authencity, and they will stand alone for the cause, and if that means they have to choose not to vote.
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Man I supported all these years. And he says this. Hit the road jack.
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I appreciate transparency, but I'm also disappointed in President Obama in this instance. Senator Sanders is doing a huge amount of good by bringing certain issues to the awareness of the general public. Just read John Cassidy's recent article in The New Yorker. He has gotten it consistently right. What justifies the anger in these primaries is that the Establishment, whether right or left, is trying to prevent true democracy to occur. That's not supposed to happen...
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What a fantastic advertisement to Bernie's supporters. Just upped my monthly donation from $20 to $40.
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Obama is both wise and good. Hillary in 2016. The best way to get any of what Bernie advocates is to help Hillary and stop talking ignorant smack about her. She didn't need Bernie to be a post-2008 Democrat. Men, stop your mostly male or women-who-love-grandpa nonsense. We all love Grandpa. But Hillary is the one who will help the country & appoint Ginsberg style liberal judges who would not have overturned Citizen United. To hear you people talk, you would think that Clintons are Bushes. It is so wrong and so outrageous, I can only think you Clinton-bashers are more deeply and darkly flawed than you could possibly realize.
David
I voted for Obama TWICE, even after he demonstrated that by being the "adult" when the (R)s were acting like children, he would give much more than 50% so that he could get a deal. This was even after it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the (R)s wre not prepared to "play ball", for example even after McConnell made his infamous comment about his goal being to make Obama a one term President.
Some of us expected a little more fight from him. When we didn't get that (even after many of us made our dissappointment known) we concluded that he just does not understand that when you are dealing with bullies, you do not back down, but rather you push back hard, because the bully will then back down.
So if you do not approve of my thought process and you think I am unsophisticated, or disloyal or (you fill in the derogatory characterization), I really do not care. Think what you like. i will do what I see as being the better way.
Now he apparently speaks to fat cats paying $33,400 per ticket (more than some people earn in a year), and he says that everybody has to fall in line with Her Highne$$ arf, arf, arf, arf, arf. Sorry, I have been supporting, and I voted for, Bernie Sanders. As a senior citizen JFK Democrat who has voted in every election since the 1960s, I do not need even Barack Hussain Obama telling me what is in my best interest. That is simply OFFENSIVE.
Do I make myself plain enough for even you to understand my position?
I voted for Obama TWICE, even after he demonstrated that by being the "adult" when the (R)s were acting like children, he would give much more than 50% so that he could get a deal. This was even after it was COMMON KNOWLEDGE that the (R)s wre not prepared to "play ball", for example even after McConnell made his infamous comment about his goal being to make Obama a one term President.
Some of us expected a little more fight from him. When we didn't get that (even after many of us made our dissappointment known) we concluded that he just does not understand that when you are dealing with bullies, you do not back down, but rather you push back hard, because the bully will then back down.
So if you do not approve of my thought process and you think I am unsophisticated, or disloyal or (you fill in the derogatory characterization), I really do not care. Think what you like. i will do what I see as being the better way.
Now he apparently speaks to fat cats paying $33,400 per ticket (more than some people earn in a year), and he says that everybody has to fall in line with Her Highne$$ arf, arf, arf, arf, arf. Sorry, I have been supporting, and I voted for, Bernie Sanders. As a senior citizen JFK Democrat who has voted in every election since the 1960s, I do not need even Barack Hussain Obama telling me what is in my best interest. That is simply OFFENSIVE.
Do I make myself plain enough for even you to understand my position?
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I'd take another round of GHWBush any day over another round of Clintons. Being a Dem I didn't even mind his backing up on "no new taxes" when they were called for. He had core principles and I understood what they were even when I disagreed on assorted issues. The Clintons' main principle seems to be tracking down the best things to say in order to win. I am tired of their scripts, even when modified, as has happened while Bernie Sanders campaigns against the Clintons in 2016.
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Obama's destroying the democratic party or what's left of it. He's actlng like what the DNC has acted all along this election by rigging the election for Hillary. Now, he too is trying to shut down Bernie's campaign in the middle of a full-fledged election, where Bernie still has a chance to win and we're only halfway through. This is the worst thing that Obama could've done. He is trying to shut down the democratic process, people's voices (the same exact ones who voted for him), and trying to hand it over to Hillary.
What happened to Obama, the candidate of Hope and Change? Idealism and authenticity doesn't matter anymore? Well, half the democrats think it is. Shutting down this election w/ so many passionate voices for Sanders is wrong and insulting. Humiliating our candidate is not the way to bring democrats together. Sanders supporters should demand a free election until June on matter of democratic principles, since our POTUS has forgotten what it is.
What happened to Obama, the candidate of Hope and Change? Idealism and authenticity doesn't matter anymore? Well, half the democrats think it is. Shutting down this election w/ so many passionate voices for Sanders is wrong and insulting. Humiliating our candidate is not the way to bring democrats together. Sanders supporters should demand a free election until June on matter of democratic principles, since our POTUS has forgotten what it is.
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The enemy of the Democrat for this election is from within. HRC dishonesty, bought and paid for, disingenous practices are delusional.
As opposed to the Republicans, what you see is what you get. Americans, vote Bernie, as if your children's lives matter.
As opposed to the Republicans, what you see is what you get. Americans, vote Bernie, as if your children's lives matter.
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All that Obama's comments made me do was to send Sanders more money. In the 1940s, my mother went to his school, (Punahou), got arrested in Chicago at the 1968 Democratic convention with Murray Kempton and other journalists, and now this phony-baloney president has the gall to tell his $34K a plate donors that we should vote the way he tells us.
Go pound sand, Mr President. You are history to me. You make your own legacy, and right now, it stinks! UGH!
Go pound sand, Mr President. You are history to me. You make your own legacy, and right now, it stinks! UGH!
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That's the 'kiss of death' to her being elected.
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Ok. I've always, in my limited non-national-stage circles, which include many Obama bashers, defended President Obama as a man of principle and integrity - even, i must have implied, without using the now denigrated term - of "authenticity."
But now I must retreat a bit. So hehind the scenes endorses Hillary: Talk about a one-hand-washes-the other, you-scratch-my-back- I'll-scratch-yours kind of a candidate. An incrementalist centrist Goldman Sachs in the cabinet sort of president (which means in economics virtually republican) has been behind the scenes prodding Democrats away from s liberal seeking to challenge Wall Street influence, and who seeks a single payer system that would displace Obama's signature achievement, and who would reverse or mitigate the inequality increasing on Obama's watch, and to support a candidate making her main platform continuing the Obama legacy- well that's too "one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" for me. It's a self-interested back-stabbing of a man of purer principle. Bernie stay the course. This is corruption, from the White House itself. You are David truly up against Goliath, like we couldn't have known. Just do your best. The faithful will support you.
But now I must retreat a bit. So hehind the scenes endorses Hillary: Talk about a one-hand-washes-the other, you-scratch-my-back- I'll-scratch-yours kind of a candidate. An incrementalist centrist Goldman Sachs in the cabinet sort of president (which means in economics virtually republican) has been behind the scenes prodding Democrats away from s liberal seeking to challenge Wall Street influence, and who seeks a single payer system that would displace Obama's signature achievement, and who would reverse or mitigate the inequality increasing on Obama's watch, and to support a candidate making her main platform continuing the Obama legacy- well that's too "one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" for me. It's a self-interested back-stabbing of a man of purer principle. Bernie stay the course. This is corruption, from the White House itself. You are David truly up against Goliath, like we couldn't have known. Just do your best. The faithful will support you.
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In a HRC debate with Trump, the one thing that would shine bright is the corruption of the moderators. No doubt they would try their best to turn Hillary into the second coming of Lincoln.
The world knows the DNC and the GOP are deathly afraid of Bernie and Trump. Both parties would back Hillary. How will that story be told in the history books?
Trump, for all his weirdness, is to the left of Hillary. In the general, if Trump tones down his nativism, Clinton will have nothing to run against.
But I'm still in it for Bernie, all the way. Just speculating.
The world knows the DNC and the GOP are deathly afraid of Bernie and Trump. Both parties would back Hillary. How will that story be told in the history books?
Trump, for all his weirdness, is to the left of Hillary. In the general, if Trump tones down his nativism, Clinton will have nothing to run against.
But I'm still in it for Bernie, all the way. Just speculating.
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Sorry, folks but Obama did NOT endorse Clinton.
Her's what SHOULD have been reported:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497587/No-president-did-not-end...
Her's what SHOULD have been reported:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3497587/No-president-did-not-end...
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@Rb Hawaii,
I think the damage is done. Look at some of these comments and judge for yourself.
3-18-16@11:50 am
I think the damage is done. Look at some of these comments and judge for yourself.
3-18-16@11:50 am
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The NYT is turning into a shill for Hillary. All of these articles, while having a basis in fact, are carefully tuned to give the message already announced by the editorial board a while back -- the NYT clearly favours Hillary and is using the news section to reinforce this. The change in the article about Sanders' effectiveness in congress last week was the most egregious example of out and out bias.
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At this point, it seems that Hillary will be the Democratic candidate for president. It is her job and the job of her supporters and the Democratic leadership, then, to WIN the support of Bernie supporters.
Telling them it is over and to grow up and get w/ the program before many of them have voted and before the convention is NOT the way to do that. It is the way to alienate them and not get their votes (which she will need) in November
They need to play the long game.
Let Bernie's supporters support him through the convention and stop bashing them and stop the blackout of Bernie in the media.
Then Hillary has to seriously address their concerns....which are varied. Mine have to do with the many conflicts of interest she seems to have. Dismissing this as "the way business is done in DC" or "everyone else does it" is not good enough. A simple acknowledgement that she DOES have conflicts of interest would be a good start. Or being able to say "I made a mistake. I realize that now and won't do it again".....these are simple things and are not that hard to do.
The presidency is Hillary's to lose.
Telling them it is over and to grow up and get w/ the program before many of them have voted and before the convention is NOT the way to do that. It is the way to alienate them and not get their votes (which she will need) in November
They need to play the long game.
Let Bernie's supporters support him through the convention and stop bashing them and stop the blackout of Bernie in the media.
Then Hillary has to seriously address their concerns....which are varied. Mine have to do with the many conflicts of interest she seems to have. Dismissing this as "the way business is done in DC" or "everyone else does it" is not good enough. A simple acknowledgement that she DOES have conflicts of interest would be a good start. Or being able to say "I made a mistake. I realize that now and won't do it again".....these are simple things and are not that hard to do.
The presidency is Hillary's to lose.
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Pressure on Bernie to drop out before I (a New Yorker) get to vote for him is the one thing that might get me to withhold my support from Hillary in the general election. I'm prety fed up with the Wasserman-Schultz Democratic Party.
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President Obama and the establishment dem. party has put on a show of a fair and rigorous nomination process when in fact it did not provide an adequate choice for its voters from the very beginning while hoping for a smooth sailing for Clinton to the nomination. But when Senator Sanders emerged as the credible challenger with millions of passionate supporters who spoke the truth, the party's top tear started circling the wagons openly around Sec. Clinton. No wonder "Obama privately tells donors that time is coming to unite behind Hillary Clinton" to ensure a desired outcome. Obama ran in 2008 on the HOPE and CHANGE promise, a big disadvantage will be that the 2016 general election will neither be about HOPE or CHANGE but the message that America is already great. Obama needs to ensure that his administration is expediting the investigation of the email scandal with impartiality and transparency and the completion of the Benghazi hearings need to take place before playing politics in the presidential contest arena. Understandably Obama has a serious conflict of interest in ensuring his place in history and in continuation of his policies and is going the extra mile to malign the Republican front runner in a subtle manner This is not the same as nominating a supreme court justice which is his constitutional obligation which he has done with due diligence. Besides the multiple divisions, Americans are divided between America is great now and those who think it is not.
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Dear President Obama,
I very much admire and respect you but I am disappointed in your decision to promote Hillary's campaign. I am not against Clinton, I am for Sanders, and he still has a chance of winning the nomination. In fact, some polls show that he is the only one who could beat all of the Republican nominees. We didn't give up on getting you nominated at a fairly late stage in your fight to get the nomination; give Sanders that same chance.
I very much admire and respect you but I am disappointed in your decision to promote Hillary's campaign. I am not against Clinton, I am for Sanders, and he still has a chance of winning the nomination. In fact, some polls show that he is the only one who could beat all of the Republican nominees. We didn't give up on getting you nominated at a fairly late stage in your fight to get the nomination; give Sanders that same chance.
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If you listen to the question that was asked of White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, he didn't say the President didn't "in fact" endorse HRC he said he didn't "in fact" say what the reporter asked. Then he chose the rest of his words very carefully. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
Our president shouldn't have even come close to saying anything like an endorsement of Hillary. I feel like he with the help of the NYTs has unduly influenced voters and has potentially, in effect, helped to disenfranchise millions of voters. The comparison of Bernie to George Bush shows a disregard for facts and is disappointing coming from such an intelligent and articulate man who. No wonder people are frustrated with our prevaricating politicians, their press secretaries and the slanted MSM.
If he didn't say what the NYTs is claiming he said, the story should be retracted.
I'm still voting for Bernie.
Our president shouldn't have even come close to saying anything like an endorsement of Hillary. I feel like he with the help of the NYTs has unduly influenced voters and has potentially, in effect, helped to disenfranchise millions of voters. The comparison of Bernie to George Bush shows a disregard for facts and is disappointing coming from such an intelligent and articulate man who. No wonder people are frustrated with our prevaricating politicians, their press secretaries and the slanted MSM.
If he didn't say what the NYTs is claiming he said, the story should be retracted.
I'm still voting for Bernie.
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Thank you for your thoughts. You're right, "disappointing" was too nice/mild. It and many other articles (or the lack of) have definitely galvanized Bernie supporters.
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@tpich,
Bernie vs W., thing wasn't just disappointing. It was so outrageous I almost laughed. This piece may have many feeling disenfranchised, but it's also galvanized others. Bernie's still in this race. I'm still voting for him and I'll continue volunteering for him. The laws of the land say I have a right to assemble peacefully and to vote. That's exactly what I intend to do.
3-18-16@12:21 pm
Bernie vs W., thing wasn't just disappointing. It was so outrageous I almost laughed. This piece may have many feeling disenfranchised, but it's also galvanized others. Bernie's still in this race. I'm still voting for him and I'll continue volunteering for him. The laws of the land say I have a right to assemble peacefully and to vote. That's exactly what I intend to do.
3-18-16@12:21 pm
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Hold my nose and vote for Hillary? No thank you.
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yup. not even if you give me emerald studded clothespin.
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For all Dems women who keeps advising us to "hold our nose" and vote for madam neo-con mainly because of the Supreme Court, this argument is no longer valid. Obama just nominated a centrist to fill the vacant spot.
Maybe now you will start considering Sen Sanders.
Unless you are determine to vote for HRC first and foremost because she is a woman.
Maybe now you will start considering Sen Sanders.
Unless you are determine to vote for HRC first and foremost because she is a woman.
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This is validation of Mr. Sanders' campaign -- a conversation to donors behind the curtain about what the donor class must do regardless of what voters decide in the long run.
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@George Fowler,
Unless President Obama does as tpich (above you) suggests and retracts this story, your comment is one helluva bull's eye. Validation of his campaign is precisely what this. Bernie's a smart man. I hope he uses this.
3-18-16@12:27 pm
Unless President Obama does as tpich (above you) suggests and retracts this story, your comment is one helluva bull's eye. Validation of his campaign is precisely what this. Bernie's a smart man. I hope he uses this.
3-18-16@12:27 pm
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I understand the White House says this story is false. What will you do to retract this misinformation and become accountable to your readers?
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Since he doesn't value "being authentic," why should we believe him, N. Rogers? Or as someone else famously said, "at this point, what difference does it make?"
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This is absurd, and flies in the face of democracy (which I agree with Jimmy Carter and others we no longer have, but for the sake of argument let's pretend), when most of the West, the entire West Coast, Alaska, Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania and others haven't voted yet. Over half the country is just supposed to be force-fed a candidate that is on top largely because of deeply Republican Southern states? The "Democratic" establishment really doesn't see how much damage you're doing to your doing to your own party, do you?
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If President Obama thought Hillary Clinton would make such a great President, then why did Obama run against Clinton?
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The President "played down the importance of authenticity". A House of Cards imitating life comment. Hillary the calculating politician against The Donald. Ouch!
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Would Bernie accept a Vice Presidential nomination if it were offered him? Would HRC offer it to him? That is one way to "heal" the party.
Bernie Sanders has integrity. It would not be a good match.
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@Michael,
After this piece? Even if Bernie and HRC were to agree to that (which someone told me is unlikely), how many people who are really pissed off about what they've read here would accept that? Before this was published, I wondered about that same thing: a ticket with both names on it, as have others. But now, after this huge, disrespectful blunder do you really think many regular people would accept that ticket?
The kindest word I can use to describe this is "imprudent." The disclosure of
$33K a ticket didn't help.
3-18-16@12:39 pm
After this piece? Even if Bernie and HRC were to agree to that (which someone told me is unlikely), how many people who are really pissed off about what they've read here would accept that? Before this was published, I wondered about that same thing: a ticket with both names on it, as have others. But now, after this huge, disrespectful blunder do you really think many regular people would accept that ticket?
The kindest word I can use to describe this is "imprudent." The disclosure of
$33K a ticket didn't help.
3-18-16@12:39 pm
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Obama a lawyer, a fraud, a lousy international voice for us all. Please go way an hibernate before you come back as a Washington insider. and author. Please stand down. With your $3TT national debt and currency devaluation recently in Mexico, you should be ashamed. Per Capita incomes since the reckon in 2006 have dropped . Good going . You know Hillary is tired after rolling up $50MM + in taxable income in the last 3 yrs. You are a fraud, an embarrassment to our collective values. You will be skewered by more than Putin next year- Worst President in 40 yrs period.
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Disgusting bit of hypocrisy from our President "quietly signaled" at an event costing $34K ticket for FOWS (Friend of Wall Street) Hillary Clinton. This is exactly why Bernie Sanders should keep running. He doesn't rely on a rock star President who keeps the revolving door greased for special interest appointments to wheedle funds from high-rolling donors.
Thanks for the heads-up, Mr. Obama whose administration is job security for Clinton finance retreads, I just sent Bernie $50 in your name.
Thanks for the heads-up, Mr. Obama whose administration is job security for Clinton finance retreads, I just sent Bernie $50 in your name.
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I was an Obama volunteer in both 2008 and 2012. I continue to support him. He's done a fine job.
My Bernie Samders bumper sticker arrived today. It's on my car.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I will support her. That may be then; but this is now. Nobody gets to end the election until everyone has voted - not even President Obama.
Go, Bernie!
My Bernie Samders bumper sticker arrived today. It's on my car.
If Hillary wins the nomination, I will support her. That may be then; but this is now. Nobody gets to end the election until everyone has voted - not even President Obama.
Go, Bernie!
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Why do you Democrats think that automatically, if Bernie quits, that these votes wlll go to Hil? They won't. Trump, in some ways is a better choice.
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Completely agree. This 63 year-old female independent voter finds Billary much scarier--and more repellent--than Trump.
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Ok. I've always, in my limited non-nationa-stage circles, defended President Obama as a man of principle and integrity - even, i must have implied, without using the now denigrated term - of "authenticity."
But now I must retreat a bit. Talk about a one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours kind of a candidate. This revelation, thst an incrementalist centrist Goldman Sachs in the cabinet sort of president has been behind the scenes prodding Democrats away from s liberal seeking to challenge Wall Street influence, and who seeks a single payer system that would displace Obama's signature achievement, and who would reverse or mitigate the inequality increasing on Obama's watch, and to support a candidate making her main platform continuing the Obama legacy- well that's too "one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" for me. It's a self-interested back-stabbing of a man of purer principle. Bernie stay the course. This is corruption, from the White House itself. You are David truly up against Goliath, like we couldn't have known. Just do your best. The faithful will support you.
But now I must retreat a bit. Talk about a one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours kind of a candidate. This revelation, thst an incrementalist centrist Goldman Sachs in the cabinet sort of president has been behind the scenes prodding Democrats away from s liberal seeking to challenge Wall Street influence, and who seeks a single payer system that would displace Obama's signature achievement, and who would reverse or mitigate the inequality increasing on Obama's watch, and to support a candidate making her main platform continuing the Obama legacy- well that's too "one-hand-washes-the other, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours" for me. It's a self-interested back-stabbing of a man of purer principle. Bernie stay the course. This is corruption, from the White House itself. You are David truly up against Goliath, like we couldn't have known. Just do your best. The faithful will support you.
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So Obama did you just tell us what we feared but dared not believe is true?
Our votes no longer matter, our democracy is lost?
The oligarchs have spoken. They've chosen their queen.
Campaign finance reform....he tried too tell us, big man, big vision, little mike. Of course they suppress his voice (our voice). David to Goliath.
The empire has fallen.
Our votes no longer matter, our democracy is lost?
The oligarchs have spoken. They've chosen their queen.
Campaign finance reform....he tried too tell us, big man, big vision, little mike. Of course they suppress his voice (our voice). David to Goliath.
The empire has fallen.
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Can anyone name ANY real accomplishments by Hillary "Wall Street" Clinton in her many years of public "service"? Other than building up her personal fortune with Wall Street bribes disguised as Top Secret speeches?
Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
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She travelled a lot.
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angbob: Most frequent flyer miles by a SoS ever, I believe.
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Obama learned his Chicago politics well: don't make no waves, don't back no losers.
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"Mr. Obama went on to lavish praise on Mrs. Clinton, describing her as smart, tough and experienced, and said that she would continue the work of his administration."
Uhm, how about "no". The country can't take more of Obama's "work".
Uhm, how about "no". The country can't take more of Obama's "work".
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Yes, do tread lightly on issues close to the hearts of liberals--the Clinton campaign is really going to need them. Lack if authenticity is among the least of Hillary's electability problems.
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Clinton is to the right of Trump on matters of foreign policy, war, international trade, and even universal health care.
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Do you realize Clinton has criticized Obama as well? Mainly on his foreign policy, or which Sanders is more closely allied? Do you know what Sanders's "political revolution" is about? Do you listen to his speeches? It's about people waking up and participating in their government in a way to make meaningful change that impacts them. Also, did you catch the Bloomberg report? It seems the official line from the White House is that this conversation did not happen as you are reporting it, at all. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see that mentioned here.
it's getting tiring calling the media, particularly the Times, out during this campaign season, but it appears that this is just going to keep going. Sigh.
it's getting tiring calling the media, particularly the Times, out during this campaign season, but it appears that this is just going to keep going. Sigh.
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Obama needed Goldman to defeat Clinton and Clinton to defeat Sanders.
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So our corporate shill president wants Clinton to win the nomination. Big surprise there. I wonder what kind of cushy job he's going to get after he leaves office? Bet the Obamas do pretty much what the Clintons did and are filthy rich in 10 years.
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OK, let's try this again. I have always supported President Obama doing his job as he sees fit. Having said that, as a voter in the Pacific Northwest where we have not yet cast our primary ballots (Washington is a Caucus State but that is neither here nor there), I deeply resent Mr. Obama telling the Party Elite that the opinions of those of us whose states have not yet voted are irrelevant. Mr. Obama....your opinion is totally irrelevant to me...one of your supporters for nearly eight years.
Where do you get off?
I'll vote for Hillary vs. any GOP nominee but it's not because I believe in her at all...it's just better than having a GOP President. I think Sanders has a lot better chance of winning in the general...her negatives are soaringly high. Be presidential and keep your personal opinions to yourself. You've oversteped your bounds.
Where do you get off?
I'll vote for Hillary vs. any GOP nominee but it's not because I believe in her at all...it's just better than having a GOP President. I think Sanders has a lot better chance of winning in the general...her negatives are soaringly high. Be presidential and keep your personal opinions to yourself. You've oversteped your bounds.
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Y'know, Patrick, I'm thinking some politics is not local. In such matters as intra-party elections, the President ought to keep his opinions to himself.
Bob, a voter in the Atlantic Northeast
Bob, a voter in the Atlantic Northeast
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When asked what Mrs. Clinton's accomplishments are Mrs. Clinton's supporters suddenly go trout mouthed. As the senator from NY she forwarded 3 pieces of legislation in 8 years, one to name a highway after Tim Russert. As secretary of State the Arab spring brought chaos to the middle east. Mrs. Clinton's red restart button with Russia was a humiliation. Mrs. Clinton, Sid Blumenthal and Mr. Obama all decided on their own to bomb Libya with not one Democrat or Republican vote, ISIS filed the void.
Things also fell apart in Iraq. The US relationship with Israel was at an all time low under her watch as well. So although she has "been around" for a while and feels that it's "her turn" she really hasn't accomplished anything.
Things also fell apart in Iraq. The US relationship with Israel was at an all time low under her watch as well. So although she has "been around" for a while and feels that it's "her turn" she really hasn't accomplished anything.
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Exactly what I've been saying since 2008.
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That was debunked last night! Now you are liars. The conglomerate media owned by a few and employees many who depend on you for pay checks have been negligent in your presentation of the political process for we the people.
There has been a near black out on Bernie Sanders and Bernie is going to the Convention. The media has the most to lose if Sanders as I would hope he would break your media stranglehold on public discourse. It is shameful that this country has lost it sense of fairness and decency. We are no longer a democracy.
There has been a near black out on Bernie Sanders and Bernie is going to the Convention. The media has the most to lose if Sanders as I would hope he would break your media stranglehold on public discourse. It is shameful that this country has lost it sense of fairness and decency. We are no longer a democracy.
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Not the first time I hear rumors that Obama is backing Hillary Clinton. And why wouldn't he? After all, they are the same kind of politicians. Remember, Obama chose Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State, a very important role in his cabinet.
The one thing I don't understand about Bernie Sanders is why hasn't he attacked Obama on his Wall Street record. Just last week during a state dinner for the Canadian PM, 35% of attendees came from the financial/wall street world. And it has nothing to do with the fact that Sanders is not running against President Obama, because If Obama would be Republican president at the end of his second term, I'm sure that Sanders would be criticizing him as much as he could. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.....
The one thing I don't understand about Bernie Sanders is why hasn't he attacked Obama on his Wall Street record. Just last week during a state dinner for the Canadian PM, 35% of attendees came from the financial/wall street world. And it has nothing to do with the fact that Sanders is not running against President Obama, because If Obama would be Republican president at the end of his second term, I'm sure that Sanders would be criticizing him as much as he could. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.....
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My question is why does this article keep calling the president.. Mr Obama. I think that is sad. We have been trying to sit him him down with our words since he started. He is still the president right now so address him as such.
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When you read this article in conjunction with another article in today's NYT about Mrs. Clinton losing the support of white men, some of whom wonder if she really wants people like them in the Democrat Party, when you consider Mr. Obama's views, as stated in the article, that Mrs. Clinton would "continue the work of his administration," when you consider the revolution Mr. Sanders wants to start, and his quest for income equality, and when you consider one of the bases of support that seems to be fuling Mr. Trump's campaign, you come to some results that are very interesting and, to some extent, potentially very disturbing.
There is a very strong possibility that white men are reading much of what is being said by Mrs. Clinton and the Democrats about equality, inclusion, etc., really means their exclusion to make room for others. Many no doubt feel that they and their forebearers were the ones who made this country great, and that people like Mrs. Clinton want to give the benefits of their efforts to others and cut them out of the picture. This is part of what Mr. Trump is trying to tap into. If he can make that case persuasively, he will win the presidency even without Republican support, because, if the Republicans were to reject him, the Republicans would be seen as being in the same place as the Democrats, and a third party run would likely work.
There is a very strong possibility that white men are reading much of what is being said by Mrs. Clinton and the Democrats about equality, inclusion, etc., really means their exclusion to make room for others. Many no doubt feel that they and their forebearers were the ones who made this country great, and that people like Mrs. Clinton want to give the benefits of their efforts to others and cut them out of the picture. This is part of what Mr. Trump is trying to tap into. If he can make that case persuasively, he will win the presidency even without Republican support, because, if the Republicans were to reject him, the Republicans would be seen as being in the same place as the Democrats, and a third party run would likely work.
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I'm sure Clinton will want ALL the white men she can find in the party when she's running in November. Till then, they're not expedient for her.
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It's common sense when ads go negative and start hurting your best hope of retaining the presidency in Democrats courtyard. It's a good time to fire at the other side instead of your own house.
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Can someone else point me to a sitting president who quietly, or not so quietly, publicized his own pick during a primary election? This seems shockingly undemocrtaic to me, and I can't recall anyone other than Obama doing this.
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the Clintons dislike Obama, he took the white house from Hillary before and they will erase everything he's done....why is he backing them now?
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Simple. President Obama fancies she'll reward him with a good post-presidency job.
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yep, for example to nominate Obama for supreme court when a vacancy comes?
I dislike his meddling with primary, but Obama is super qualified for a seat @ SCOUS.
I dislike his meddling with primary, but Obama is super qualified for a seat @ SCOUS.
On the Rachel Maddow Show last night, in discussion with Senator Sanders, it was pointed out that the White House denies the story that President Clinton said this.
What's your ploy, New York Times? I'm starting to regret being a subscriber to a source I'd previously considered reputable.
What's your ploy, New York Times? I'm starting to regret being a subscriber to a source I'd previously considered reputable.
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If Hillary spoke the truth:
"Ignore my decision to support Bush's Disastrous Invasion of Iraq based on lies... Ignore my time on the Walmart board... Ignore my Top Secret Speeches to Wall Street Thieves.... Ignore my enormous personal bank account that has multiplied every year, despite my modest government paycheck. Ignore the absolute dangerous mess in the Middle East I helped create with my "service" to my country... Ignore my paranoid bad judgement to install a personal server in my home with which to conduct official government business and is now under investigation by the FBI... Ignore that my interest in the people of Flint disappeared immediately after the Michigan primary.... Ignore my close ties to the black President ended right after the Southern primaries... Recognize that I am a woman and vote for me because of it."
"Ignore my decision to support Bush's Disastrous Invasion of Iraq based on lies... Ignore my time on the Walmart board... Ignore my Top Secret Speeches to Wall Street Thieves.... Ignore my enormous personal bank account that has multiplied every year, despite my modest government paycheck. Ignore the absolute dangerous mess in the Middle East I helped create with my "service" to my country... Ignore my paranoid bad judgement to install a personal server in my home with which to conduct official government business and is now under investigation by the FBI... Ignore that my interest in the people of Flint disappeared immediately after the Michigan primary.... Ignore my close ties to the black President ended right after the Southern primaries... Recognize that I am a woman and vote for me because of it."
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What happened to "for the people, by the people?" I love how the rules twist and bend for a Hilary Presidency. She's such a disgrace to women everywhere. This is how she decides to rise to the top? Bernie Sanders has already won the majority of public votes. The people do not want a Hilary President and it would be nice if the MSM would stop campaigning for. If they are going to exclude Bernie Sanders the least they can do is STOP campaigning for Hilary. How is this NOT anti-semitic?
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What does this have to do with"Anti-Semitism"? Bernie doesn't even acknowledge his Jewish background. Please stop.
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She has more votes than he does. It's not anti-semitism, it's basic arithmetic.
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From the essay "Sanders’ backers will dig in — both their heels and their pockets — if Obama tries to give him the hook":
Perhaps he’s feeling a little burned by Sanders’ sharp critique of politicians who claim they are deeply committed to campaign finance reform but then strap on a few super PACs rather than “unilaterally disarm.” The longer Sanders keeps proving that it IS possible to run strong and also to run clean, the more hypocritical both Clinton and Obama look by comparison.
https://medium.com/@Chijourno/sanders-backers-will-dig-in-their-heels-an...
Perhaps he’s feeling a little burned by Sanders’ sharp critique of politicians who claim they are deeply committed to campaign finance reform but then strap on a few super PACs rather than “unilaterally disarm.” The longer Sanders keeps proving that it IS possible to run strong and also to run clean, the more hypocritical both Clinton and Obama look by comparison.
https://medium.com/@Chijourno/sanders-backers-will-dig-in-their-heels-an...
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I hate to say this but......... Me being behind Bernie up till now; If this comes down to choosing between Clinton and Trump: I can't do it. Why is it we're always stuck with choosing the lessor of two evils?
Not this time!
Not this time!
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Because that's the way your political system works in this country. So, another democrat wants to sit out the election. Typical. That's how the democrats keep losing.
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Whether you support Hillary or Bernie, keep in mind your vote will give voice to those who are unable to have one. Failure to unite behind the democratic nominee in Nov. will expose millions of immigrants and refugees to face unthinkable hardship. I believe both candidates have chosen the moral high ground and will stand up for those who currently have no rights. I in good conscious could never stay away from the polls come November.
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FL: Hillary 133, Bernie 65
IL: Hillary 68, Bernie 67
MO: Hillary 32, Bernie 32
NC: Hillary 59, Bernie 45
OH: Hillary 72, Bernie 62
The only state that was a runaway was FL, & IL & MO were ties. Please don't add to the misconception that it's impossible for Bernie to win the Democratic nomination.
feelthebern,org
IL: Hillary 68, Bernie 67
MO: Hillary 32, Bernie 32
NC: Hillary 59, Bernie 45
OH: Hillary 72, Bernie 62
The only state that was a runaway was FL, & IL & MO were ties. Please don't add to the misconception that it's impossible for Bernie to win the Democratic nomination.
feelthebern,org
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Hillary : 8.6 million votes
Bernie: 6.1 million votes
This is really not that difficult.
I support and TRUST Bernie, if he backs Hillary in the general election, I will back her.
Bernie: 6.1 million votes
This is really not that difficult.
I support and TRUST Bernie, if he backs Hillary in the general election, I will back her.
I support Bernie Sanders. Coming clean with Hillary is a little early. Obama should stay out of it until a democratic runner for president is picked. I dont like Hillary and think she would be a bad president. She is confused when off script and doesnt even know what a Socialist is when asked by Chris Matthews on his show. I dont know what people see in Hillary. Bernie has 30 years experience in Congress. Every time I see Hillary on the internet news or on tv I can see her in my mind at that congress hearing on Bengazi ranting and mad and saying 'who cares it is over with'. As a loyal Democrat I support Bernie all the way and hope he can lead America into the future to be a better place and not controlled by special interest groups and rich people.
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I'm still voting Bernie Sanders
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Good luck with that!
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I've said it many times. I just yhink Bernie is a great guy. I love his policies. But there is no way in Hades a guy with the socialist tag attached to him is going to win the White House. I say this every night: Trump will paint Bernie as Karl Marx reincarnated. Most Americans don't understand the nuance of "Socialist Democrat" or Democratic Socialist" or whatever; most adults have been programmed forever to believe that socialism is binary... Capitalism good, socialism bad, with no shades of grey to explain how the two economic systems intertwine in this world. Does anybody reading this really think that most American voters are in tune with economic systems to realize how Bernie's policies really works? You can bet Trump will explain it! He's already got Hillary barking like a dog in one of his ads; I can only imagine what he'd do to Bernie with the socialism/ communism thing.
Trump, to me, is one of the biggest political dangers our country has faced in its 200+ year history. Hillary has baggage. But Hillary is the most well-known and well-vetted candidate of our lifetimes. Good or bad, not much more to know about her. She can beat Trump; with Bernie, it becomes a roll of the dice. His poll numbers are good now, but after the Trump machine begins spitting out lies and innuendo, and candidate Trump says who knows what on the stump about Bernie, those numbers will drop like a stone dropped off a cliff.
Trump, to me, is one of the biggest political dangers our country has faced in its 200+ year history. Hillary has baggage. But Hillary is the most well-known and well-vetted candidate of our lifetimes. Good or bad, not much more to know about her. She can beat Trump; with Bernie, it becomes a roll of the dice. His poll numbers are good now, but after the Trump machine begins spitting out lies and innuendo, and candidate Trump says who knows what on the stump about Bernie, those numbers will drop like a stone dropped off a cliff.
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All national polls show otherwise.
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How many days are they going to run this piece of propaganda on the front page in bold type? Shameless.
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The piece has been posted for less than 24 hours.
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This seems to be nervousness about a possible Trump victory (truly scary), understandable on the President's part, but unnecessary. Hillary didn't bow out of the race in 2008 and her tough campaigning it didn't keep Obama from winning in November. Let the process play out. It will allow all Democrats to feel like they are part of the process and make it easier to endorse the eventual winner.
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Obama did what's appropriate as leader of the Democratic Party. In my opinion he has shown admirable restraint through the nomination process thus far. Clinton's win in Ohio made it crystal clear that she will be the nominee, and given what is going on with the Republicans, it's time to focus attention on the general election. Obama did not call on Sanders to quit, and there's no reason for Sanders to do so. It is time to take a deep breath - mourn the realistic end to prospects for a Sanders presidency (for those who wanted that) - and look to what's best for the country going forward.
For anyone needing further nails to the coffin, consider the polls this week showing Clinton +26 in AZ and +48 in NY.
For anyone needing further nails to the coffin, consider the polls this week showing Clinton +26 in AZ and +48 in NY.
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It may be a steep climb for Bernie but he should know we the people are with him all the way.
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President Obama just crushed the respect I had for him. His attempt to downplay the importance of authenticity is illogical. A candidate's statement means nothing if it is not authentic.
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Gee. Guess our "constitutional law lecturer" president has made his mind up - he won't allow the Justice Dept. to indict her if the FBI makes the recommendation because, you know, she's his third term. That's our Barack; Left-wing politics first, last and always, and to heck-schmuh with national security and the rule of law.
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Wow, so much vitriol between the two Democratic camps. Trump stands a real chance in the Fall.
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@Chris,
I agree with you. Perhaps some are trolls? Apart from that possibility the mutual disrespect is amazing. It seems that so many can't or won't even agree to disagree politely anymore. Months ago, I started to see comments sprinkled here and there in the NYT, which begged for civility among the camps and warnings of what might come in the Fall, if people continued that way. I thought they were worried and perhaps were even overstepping, not giving others credit for basic decorum.
How wrong I was, unfortunately. It gets much worse every day. As you said, Trump does stand a real chance and this is making it easier for him.
3-18-16@11:05 am
I agree with you. Perhaps some are trolls? Apart from that possibility the mutual disrespect is amazing. It seems that so many can't or won't even agree to disagree politely anymore. Months ago, I started to see comments sprinkled here and there in the NYT, which begged for civility among the camps and warnings of what might come in the Fall, if people continued that way. I thought they were worried and perhaps were even overstepping, not giving others credit for basic decorum.
How wrong I was, unfortunately. It gets much worse every day. As you said, Trump does stand a real chance and this is making it easier for him.
3-18-16@11:05 am
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The really funny part of this is that a couple of years from now everyone who supports her will be surprised that she will work the hardest to protect Wal Street, and not much else.
Anyone who reads already know that. But this is a nation that prefers movies about super heroes.
Anyone who reads already know that. But this is a nation that prefers movies about super heroes.
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Why is the current president of the United States referred to as "Mr. Obama" after the first paragraph?
This is a sincere question, as i remember being taught as a child the current president is always referred to as "President ..." to show respect for the office.
This is a sincere question, as i remember being taught as a child the current president is always referred to as "President ..." to show respect for the office.
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I was there working for Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988 when the democratic establishment told him to throw in the towel. Of course we know what happened in the fall elections.
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So much for the vaunted announcement on Tuesday that the Times was cracking down on rampant anonymity. This is exactly the kind of anonymously sourced speculation that is coin of the realm in the Times abysmal political coverage, before and after the supposedly new standards.
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Well, the White House seems to be pushing back against this story and Josh "Baghdad Bob" Ernest is denying that Obama ever suggested rallying behind Hill. Can Maggie and Michael confirm that they stand behind their story and that their sources are credible?
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Wow, I guess Wall Street finally called in their supporting both of Barack Obama's campaigns by ordering him to tell Bernie to quit before he wins the nomination.
The Democratic Party's movers and shakers are not scoring points with Bernie's millions of supporters with this type of propaganda!
The Democratic Party's movers and shakers are not scoring points with Bernie's millions of supporters with this type of propaganda!
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Odd NYT. There doesn't seem to be much actual quotation in terms of this implication. Cause if you were to have actually watched the speech, he really made none.
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Judging by the reactions to the phrase "the time is coming," one suspects that a significant minority of Sanders' supporters, not to mention shills for Karl Rove pretending to be Sanders' supporters, have rather a difficult time with verb tenses in English.
May one suggest looking up what a future conditional is?
And may one suggest that a REAL leftist's response to the President's rather mild acknowledgement of, wossname, likely reality would be: drop the sexism, drop the recitation of right-wing accusations, and, wossname ORGANIZE, and VOTE.
Because so far, you're doing neither.
May one suggest looking up what a future conditional is?
And may one suggest that a REAL leftist's response to the President's rather mild acknowledgement of, wossname, likely reality would be: drop the sexism, drop the recitation of right-wing accusations, and, wossname ORGANIZE, and VOTE.
Because so far, you're doing neither.
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It has nothing to do with sexism or right-wing accusations, Robert. It has to do with Iraq, Walmart, Wall Street, servers, bad judgement, the "gold standard" TPP, corporate super pacs, dispappearing concern for the people of Flint, and a history of many many lies combined with very few actual accomplishments.
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It has a lot to do with expensive right-propaganda
We need Bernie to stay in, as his views have certainly influenced Hillary in a positive way Also, just in case--
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People who think she won't instantly revert to type the second she (G-d forbid) sets foot in the Oval Office are painfully naive.
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Shouldn't he be telling donors to get behind Bernie Sanders? I am voting for Bernie 100%, even if he's a write in. Who else is going to help the lower and middle class the same way our Canadian and European counterparts do?
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Obama is a follower. He's afraid to go out on a limb.
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I wanted a primary in my home city of Philadelphia, PA so i could vote for Bernie. What made me switch to Hillary is her policies being better than Sanders, The Donald Must Be Stopped, and being attacked by Bernie Bros. in the comments section of the NY Times for pro-Hillary comments. Whaterver Hillary is, obnoxious she and her supporters are not. Now I hope she wins PA.
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@Andrea W.,
My understanding is that "Bernie Bros." refers to people who might not actually be Sanders supporters, but are rude online. For any genuine Sanders voters who are impolite, I'm afraid I can't account for them and it might be presumptuous for me to try. I'm a Sanders volunteer. I respect your right to your opinion and your voting decision. But, by the same token, it would have been helpful if your comment acknowledged the difference between "Bernie Bros., etc., and people like me who've commented and disagreed politely.
Please do bear in mind that some, like me, do have legitimate concerns which are verifiable.
3-18-16@11:35 am
My understanding is that "Bernie Bros." refers to people who might not actually be Sanders supporters, but are rude online. For any genuine Sanders voters who are impolite, I'm afraid I can't account for them and it might be presumptuous for me to try. I'm a Sanders volunteer. I respect your right to your opinion and your voting decision. But, by the same token, it would have been helpful if your comment acknowledged the difference between "Bernie Bros., etc., and people like me who've commented and disagreed politely.
Please do bear in mind that some, like me, do have legitimate concerns which are verifiable.
3-18-16@11:35 am
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What these people said, and I'm papraphrasing here, is that I didn't know asht I was talking about, and to shut up. I absolutely notice the difference here, and I am glad that you spoke up. I bear no ill will toward Bernie, I just felt after thibnkingmore, that Hillary might be a better choice.
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Very disappointing from Obama. Not surprising from the DNC, but sad that Obama'd weigh in.
Sanders' voice must be heard:
Money out of our politics!
Stop the wars.
How can a D be against that? Sending him more $ right away.
That's why Trump is steamrolling the GOP.
Yet the Democrats can't hear it, doesn't think it applies to them. This is barely better than GOP trying to backdoor around Trump as their nominee, he wrecks the conservative brand.
Well someone has to call out thieves and crooks amongst us, unpopular as it can be when no one's done it in decades.
Thank you Senator Sanders and please stay in all the way. The country needs to hear and digest what you're saying.
Sanders' voice must be heard:
Money out of our politics!
Stop the wars.
How can a D be against that? Sending him more $ right away.
That's why Trump is steamrolling the GOP.
Yet the Democrats can't hear it, doesn't think it applies to them. This is barely better than GOP trying to backdoor around Trump as their nominee, he wrecks the conservative brand.
Well someone has to call out thieves and crooks amongst us, unpopular as it can be when no one's done it in decades.
Thank you Senator Sanders and please stay in all the way. The country needs to hear and digest what you're saying.
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It is now very likely that Bernie Sanders will win a plurality of delegates, >2026, and if Hilary still gets the nomination, based solely upon 'super-delegates', then the DNC has rejected democracy and is no longer useful. I will not be voting for Hilary, I will write in Bernie Sanders for President of the USA!
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I wrote in Dennis Kucinich in 2004.
So there, DNC.
So there, DNC.
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Mr Obama labled Ms Clinton as "likable enough". Is this his attempt to make up for that?
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Basically Obama is a coward.
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Ayuh.
Bob, in NH
Bob, in NH
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There is clearly some uncertainty about what exactly Obama said, but I'd be quite surprised if he said anything to donors and DIDN'T at least suggest that it's time to look toward a likely general election campaign between Clinton and Trump. It isn't being neutral to suggest that there is still a real possibility of Sanders being the nominee; from Obama that would be a lie, since he of all people knows what it takes. And why should Obama, as leader of the party, not be allowed to speak such truth - or even express an opinion on who he thinks is the better candidate? I don't understand it.
And for all those who (very) thinly disguise your contempt for people of the south voting for HRC, please look at how the people of the north have voted. HRC has received MORE total votes than Bernie in the northernmost states to have voted: NH, MA, MN, VT, MI, IL and OH. That is a cold, hard fact.
And for all those who (very) thinly disguise your contempt for people of the south voting for HRC, please look at how the people of the north have voted. HRC has received MORE total votes than Bernie in the northernmost states to have voted: NH, MA, MN, VT, MI, IL and OH. That is a cold, hard fact.
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I don't trust Bernie Sanders. There, I said it.
1) To me, he seems to be an opportunist who became a Democrat just in time for the primaries, because he knew he was going nowhere if he stayed independent. I guess he did compromise on his convictions, just a little bit, and held his nose just this once.
2) He complains the Democratic Party treats him badly (as compared to how the DP treats Hillary Clinton), but I'm not sure what exactly he has ever done for the Democratic Party. I would venture it is <1% of what Hillary Clinton has done for the DP.
3) He seems very outraged about our government, hence his use of the word revolution. I wonder what took him so long, though? He seems awfully old for a revolutionary. If he disagreed with Bill Clinton's presidency, why didn't he run in 1996? Why not in 2000? Why not in 2004 when W was going for a 2nd term? Why not in 2008 when the economy went bust? Why not in 2012 since he disagreed with Obama's presidency?
4) He is from Brooklyn, and would have impacted many more people if he had become a politician there. Or even in Chicago, where he went to college. But no, wait, he goes to Vermont, a lily-white state with a population of less than 650,000, where he becomes a career politician (not sure if he ever held a non-political job).
5) He spent 25 years in Washington D.C. representing his tiny adoptive lily-white state. His achievements there are not impressive.
1) To me, he seems to be an opportunist who became a Democrat just in time for the primaries, because he knew he was going nowhere if he stayed independent. I guess he did compromise on his convictions, just a little bit, and held his nose just this once.
2) He complains the Democratic Party treats him badly (as compared to how the DP treats Hillary Clinton), but I'm not sure what exactly he has ever done for the Democratic Party. I would venture it is <1% of what Hillary Clinton has done for the DP.
3) He seems very outraged about our government, hence his use of the word revolution. I wonder what took him so long, though? He seems awfully old for a revolutionary. If he disagreed with Bill Clinton's presidency, why didn't he run in 1996? Why not in 2000? Why not in 2004 when W was going for a 2nd term? Why not in 2008 when the economy went bust? Why not in 2012 since he disagreed with Obama's presidency?
4) He is from Brooklyn, and would have impacted many more people if he had become a politician there. Or even in Chicago, where he went to college. But no, wait, he goes to Vermont, a lily-white state with a population of less than 650,000, where he becomes a career politician (not sure if he ever held a non-political job).
5) He spent 25 years in Washington D.C. representing his tiny adoptive lily-white state. His achievements there are not impressive.
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Just what are Hillary's achievements? Name one. Besides her personal fortune built via Wall Street and her vote for the Iraq War...
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Her other achievement: she married Bill Clinton.
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Wow so personal an attack.How about he realized finally that no one else was going to do the work of representing the poor and middle class, and when Elizabeth Warren decided not to run, he decided he had to do it? He has been for the same things for decades. He never planned to run for president, unlike some of our more ambitious politicians who apparently wanted it from the womb. I see a man who came around to realizing that to enact the change he believes in, he had to run, it happens to be he is in his early 70's. And he is doing a very good job of it too. I wish he were 10 years younger, but his wisdom required the road he travelled. Even 4 years of Bernie beats anyone else running. And yes he seems to be fit enough to hang in there for 8 years.
We still have a few more primaries to go, if HRC wins, so be it, she will have my vote, but I fear for her chances in November, I really do.
We still have a few more primaries to go, if HRC wins, so be it, she will have my vote, but I fear for her chances in November, I really do.
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Trump is despicable,Clinton is deplorable & Bernie is ... There are no saints running for President. Just human beings. To those Berners , I hope you will remember what the goal is. And I think you need to ask yourselves,if you demonize Clinton for being human,just what will you do if Bernie is elected President & he cannot deliver? If I here another diatribe on the 1% or how Wall Street is evil, well let's count how many Americans are invested in it & how you will get their support. You cannot get change without them period. America began its history with the support of two countries. One were Dutch investors with the same goals as Wall Street investors today,profit. And then there was the French, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The idea is not to give things for free,but to recognize that whether poor, black, brown or female ,that we all have a good education, have health care,safe housing ,drinkable water, clean air, and that everyone has the opportunity to succeed. After that it is free will. If you want that,then will you support the nominee of the Democratic Party Bernieites?
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If Bernie is the nominee, I will support the nominee.
Against a GOP Congress, Hillary will fare no better than would Bernie.
With a Dem Congress, Bernie has a chance to push programs a strong society needs. Hillary wouldn't bother.
Against a GOP Congress, Hillary will fare no better than would Bernie.
With a Dem Congress, Bernie has a chance to push programs a strong society needs. Hillary wouldn't bother.
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What's an iceberg's chance in Hell?
What the NYT, HRC and the President have yet to come to grips with is the fact the American electorate is fed up with the elite neoliberal agenda that has dominated our politics for the last 20 years or so. I have voted Democratic all my life, but Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama have colluded to produce today's winner-take-all economy while they chipped away at the GI Bill and the New Deal that made it possible for my father, a child of a single mom who worked as a waitress, to become a physician and teacher, and do it without crippling debt. I cringe when HRC says she 'knows how to work the system'. Getting nothing done would be preferable to deals with Wall St and Big Pharma just to get a few token concessions to the 'liberal' agenda.
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In President Obama privately telling a group of donors at a $33,400 a ticket event that the time is coming to unite behind Hillary Clinton, he is preaching to the choir. When a major focus of the Sander’s campaign is the corrupt political system dominated by the moneyed class, Obama is offering evidence of the validity of Sander’s position. Fortunately, his remarks have been made public whereas those of Clinton’s paid speeches have not. Authenticity is about doing what one says that one is going to do. I am sure that for the wealthy donors, spoken to in private, both Obama and Clinton are perceived as having greater authenticity than either do with the working class based on their public utterances and records. While Clinton is the legitimate successor to Obama’s actions, Sanders is the one who is most likely to follow through on Obama’s promises and the “Audacity of Hope” that he ran on but now would have us abandon.
Hillary is running because she desperately wants to be president, Bernie is running because he desperately wants a more just and equitable society. If you really want Bernie to drop out all that is necessary is to show him a better way to achieve his goals. My audacious hope is that the Sander’s campaign never comes to an end until the goals he has set have been achieved. Short of the political revolution that Sander’s seeks, what chance is there of ending the gridlock that currently paralyzes Washington and making any progress?
Hillary is running because she desperately wants to be president, Bernie is running because he desperately wants a more just and equitable society. If you really want Bernie to drop out all that is necessary is to show him a better way to achieve his goals. My audacious hope is that the Sander’s campaign never comes to an end until the goals he has set have been achieved. Short of the political revolution that Sander’s seeks, what chance is there of ending the gridlock that currently paralyzes Washington and making any progress?
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Even if Obama said this, it will not change MY mind to vote for Hillary in the primary. I think Obama was the best choice when he ran but now the best choice is Bernie. Wasn't Obama the candidate that promised change and hope? He ran against Hillary because like he said, "She'll say anything, and change nothing" I still believe that. I wonder what made Obama change his mind?
Bernie is the only democratic candidate that truly represents the democratic party which states "There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top."
Obama has done great things for out country, but if he's true to the message he ran with and if he really wants change, he would endorse Bernie and take the Democratic forward. Hillary represents a step backward and will deliver more of the same.
Bernie is the only democratic candidate that truly represents the democratic party which states "There are several core beliefs that tie our party together: Democrats believe that we're greater together than we are on our own—that this country succeeds when everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules. Our party, led by President Obama, is focused on building an economy that lifts up all Americans, not just those at the top."
Obama has done great things for out country, but if he's true to the message he ran with and if he really wants change, he would endorse Bernie and take the Democratic forward. Hillary represents a step backward and will deliver more of the same.
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OK, Pres, get in or get out, no playing around the edges. You nuances can be a real pain
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Obama should have shut Bernie down long ago. Enough is enough. It's time to focus.
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Trump has huge lead right now, so don't rush for in about eight weeks the public will be sick of Trump.
Reuters: "President Barack Obama did not specify a candidate preference in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination at a Democratic National Committee fundraising event, White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on Thursday."
Bloomberg: "President Obama 'in fact' didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters
"Obama said 'that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee': Earnest"
Bloomberg: "President Obama 'in fact' didn’t privately tell donors last Friday the party must soon come together to back Hillary Clinton, White House Press Sec. Josh Earnest tells reporters
"Obama said 'that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee': Earnest"
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Who care what Obama thinks. Had he done his job, Bernie would not be as popular as he is. Obama cared nothing for the middle class and as far as all those kids living in ghettos - all he cared about was the kids from central and south America. The TPP he touts is anti-American worker. He cares more for international corporations than us. The very odd thing about this election cycle is that Hillary is a conservative Republic and Trump is really a moderate Democrat.
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I just did some quick calculations. In general election swing states Hillary is ahead so far 400 to 288 ,with several important states to go : IN,NM,WI,PA. I think it matters greatly how the 2 of them fare in those contests so it is premature for Obama or anyone else to call for Sanders to bow out now. (Who cares that she won Texas in the primary,she has no chance there in Nov.)
In fact,I would argue, If one looks at the projected general election maps, several organizations predict a Dem win 270 to 268, but they assume the Dem will win NH. Hillary did terribly in NH. If you look back at 2000, Gore would have won the election if he had won NH,making his loss of FL a moot issue.
This whole election could once again come down to NH, which Bernie would win and which Hillary might lose to the Repubs. This is my practical side of preferring Bernie to Hillary. I do think he is the more electable candidate this year!
In fact,I would argue, If one looks at the projected general election maps, several organizations predict a Dem win 270 to 268, but they assume the Dem will win NH. Hillary did terribly in NH. If you look back at 2000, Gore would have won the election if he had won NH,making his loss of FL a moot issue.
This whole election could once again come down to NH, which Bernie would win and which Hillary might lose to the Repubs. This is my practical side of preferring Bernie to Hillary. I do think he is the more electable candidate this year!
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Just gave another 27$ to Bernie. At this rate, in about 100 years, maybe I can attend one of those 33K a plate dinners and be considered a "donor." #feelthebern
I have not seen any fat lady sing yet. We can do this.
I have not seen any fat lady sing yet. We can do this.
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President Barack Obama did not specify a candidate preference in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination at a Democratic National Committee fundraising event, White House spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters on Thursday.
Earnest was asked about a New York Times report that said Obama told Democratic donors to rally behind candidate Hillary Clinton during the fundraiser in Austin, Texas last weekend.
(Reporting by Clarece Polke; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
Earnest was asked about a New York Times report that said Obama told Democratic donors to rally behind candidate Hillary Clinton during the fundraiser in Austin, Texas last weekend.
(Reporting by Clarece Polke; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
Obama needs to mind his own business. He once thought Hillary was not the one to be president.
George W. Bush was once praised for his authenticity. What does this have to say about anything? Hillary has never been praised for her authenticity.
It's not Sanders that will help the Republicans recapture the White House, it is Hillary. She has so much against her. She is not likeable, she is not trustworthy, she doesn't even know who she is. She blows like the wind.
Sanders supporters are already alienated against Hillary and many will NOT vote for Hillary. We are tired of the same old same old. Things will never change if we are not bold and courageous enough to vote for the change agent or not vote at all.
George W. Bush was once praised for his authenticity. What does this have to say about anything? Hillary has never been praised for her authenticity.
It's not Sanders that will help the Republicans recapture the White House, it is Hillary. She has so much against her. She is not likeable, she is not trustworthy, she doesn't even know who she is. She blows like the wind.
Sanders supporters are already alienated against Hillary and many will NOT vote for Hillary. We are tired of the same old same old. Things will never change if we are not bold and courageous enough to vote for the change agent or not vote at all.
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Not this voter Mr. President
I am waiting for your memoir after you leave WH. I sincerely hope you will admit that appointing madam neo-con as SoS was one of biggest mistakes.
Look what she put you through!
She hired the neo-cons as "advisers". She used her position to ask for donation to the racket they have. She hired hit man Blumenthal, even though you told her not to do so. And-of course- she setup her "own" private e-mail sever @ home so she can wheel and deal with classified info.
Then in 2014 to kick off her campaign, she shamelessly attacked your foreign policy.
These are the Clintons Mr. president. You have known better.
Cutting corners,lies, manipulations, and deceit is in their DNA
I am waiting for your memoir after you leave WH. I sincerely hope you will admit that appointing madam neo-con as SoS was one of biggest mistakes.
Look what she put you through!
She hired the neo-cons as "advisers". She used her position to ask for donation to the racket they have. She hired hit man Blumenthal, even though you told her not to do so. And-of course- she setup her "own" private e-mail sever @ home so she can wheel and deal with classified info.
Then in 2014 to kick off her campaign, she shamelessly attacked your foreign policy.
These are the Clintons Mr. president. You have known better.
Cutting corners,lies, manipulations, and deceit is in their DNA
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It would be much easier for me to get behind Sec. Clinton should she win the nomination if she could look us straight in the face and declare herself a "true" democrat – which is to say dedicated to representative, citizen democracy; not plutocratic rule. You can't be both; you must declare. That this many months in, I've still not publicly heard her even use the word "plutocracy", well let's just say I'm dubious to say the least.
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Respectfully Mr. President, please remain silent.
Senator Sanders will attempt to accomplish what you promised and failed to do.
Senator Sanders will attempt to accomplish what you promised and failed to do.
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Shame on him! At this time in 2008 he was "hopelessly" behind then Sen, Clinton. But he overcame that to beat her handily. How DARE he suggest that Bernie Sanders should bow out now?
I realize the changes Bernie is proposing are radical and scary, but ourt country is at a crossroads, and unless drastic changes are implemented NOW, we face a dismal future.
I realize the changes Bernie is proposing are radical and scary, but ourt country is at a crossroads, and unless drastic changes are implemented NOW, we face a dismal future.
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I truly think it's time for the progressives to split for good from these neoliberal Conservative Lite politicians. Let's kill the bipartisan system once and for all, and let Wall Street only call the shots of those who are bought by them....and watch the neolibs crumble.
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"Attendees paid as much as $33,400 a ticket." vs. Senator Sanders' $27.
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If this race has illustrated anything it is that the ‘centralist’ Democratic Party is in trouble. Sen. Sanders from a small State without deep pocket support and OMG Socialists in his title has been running even with and even ahead in Blue states against Sec. Clinton. His 90% return in Vt. tells you what people who know him think about the contest. The media wants us to believe he has no support in over 30 generations - not the case – people my age 80 and under remember that much of what he is proposing was the world we lived in before the Reagan revolution; low or no tuition, steeply progressive taxes, and a functioning social network to help the poor and disabled. And I would add some reservation about taking America to war.
The Democratic registered working class whites, male and female, are abandoning the Dem. Party for Trump, will Hillary be able to turn that around? Bernie just might if given the chance.
The Democratic registered working class whites, male and female, are abandoning the Dem. Party for Trump, will Hillary be able to turn that around? Bernie just might if given the chance.
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Less than an hour ago, I came home from visiting the Navajo Nation in Arizona where Bernie Sanders was about to give a speech. The line to get into the auditorium was literally a mile long. This was a forty-minute drive from the nearest town of any size (Flagstaff) out in the middle of the desert at an Indian casino. It was incredible! When you see something like this, well, you just have to believe that Bernie still has a ton of support. Too bad the media has largely ignored him. Go Bernie!
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Seeing the difference between the support for Bernie and Hillary at ground level, makes one wonder if the election counts are authentic.
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What do you expect him to say in front of a private gathering of paying...well heeled DNC donors who support Hillary Clinton ? I don't think this article really says very much.
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Bernie is not wining. He is 300 delegates behind because he has lost more states and got less votes than Hillary. And he is outspent her so it's not like he is a poor disenfranchised candidate. Sanders supporters need to realize that if Sanders were ahead by winning more states, more votes and more pledged delegates (the kind you get for winning states) then the Democratic Party would be asking donors to unite behind him. Folks it's simple: you have to win states and votes to get the nomination.
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Curious. No quote. Anonymous sources. What's the big secret? Could it be Obama didn't say this? I guess so as I just heard it from the White House spokesman Josh Earnest on Lawrence O'Donnel (MSNBC). He was at the private meeting and the president said only that the Democratic Party needs to rally around the nominee but he did NOT specify which one or suggest a preference.
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Hillary has gone from 'enough likable' to 'likable' for Obama.
Progress we can believe in.
Progress we can believe in.
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She surely knows a secret or two as SS in the WH.
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Is she under investigation? Is the president lobbying for her?
Tell me this is untrue.
Tell me this is untrue.
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what a classy president this nation has, not!
so I guess he will not have the DOJ look into all of the emails and things that she should be charge for he will give her a pass as long as Hillary keeps his secrets safe. What a wash, well she can keep pandering to her blacks friend because I guess she doesn't need the white vote.
Just endorse her and get it over or are u afraid of what the Sanders & Trump voters will do. I guess who the people want doesn't matter to this 2 face traitor. America has sure change.
so I guess he will not have the DOJ look into all of the emails and things that she should be charge for he will give her a pass as long as Hillary keeps his secrets safe. What a wash, well she can keep pandering to her blacks friend because I guess she doesn't need the white vote.
Just endorse her and get it over or are u afraid of what the Sanders & Trump voters will do. I guess who the people want doesn't matter to this 2 face traitor. America has sure change.
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President Obama says he didn't say that. It was interpreted that way. Whom do we believe?
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President Obama.
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The real reason why the DNC, Clinton and Obama are pushing to unite and back the 'establishment' nominee is because she is running out of money, and she might not be able to afford to pay the bills to run the presidential campaign. Well... bad for her! Apparently Bernie does not have this problem!
Bernie must run until the end of the campaign to collect as much as votes and delegates as possible, and if he does not get the nomination he should run as Independent. I'm one of Bernie supporters, with my wallet and heart, and this is what I expect for him.
Sorry guys, but the stake is too high. It's time that this country start to listen to the millions of Independents and not who do not recognize themselves in any of the establishment parties.
To the those of you who say "I was a Bernie supporter but now..." Well folks, we don't need you in this movement. Please stick with Clinton and the rigged establishment candidates.
Bernie must run until the end of the campaign to collect as much as votes and delegates as possible, and if he does not get the nomination he should run as Independent. I'm one of Bernie supporters, with my wallet and heart, and this is what I expect for him.
Sorry guys, but the stake is too high. It's time that this country start to listen to the millions of Independents and not who do not recognize themselves in any of the establishment parties.
To the those of you who say "I was a Bernie supporter but now..." Well folks, we don't need you in this movement. Please stick with Clinton and the rigged establishment candidates.
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And so reality is setting in: most of the Bernie supporters are really Trump supporters.
It will be good to get rid of these people out of the ranks of liberals and progressives. They can go show their true colors, vote for a fascist.
I'm tired of all the hypocrisy, how they are all so pure ... but they'll vote for a fascist.
It will be good to get rid of these people out of the ranks of liberals and progressives. They can go show their true colors, vote for a fascist.
I'm tired of all the hypocrisy, how they are all so pure ... but they'll vote for a fascist.
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So it's better to vote for a lying con artist? Or rather a couple of lying con artists? At least Trump hasn't been lining his pockets at the "public service" trough for his entire lifetime. And I'm pretty sure he won't be selling nights in the Lincoln Bedroom. How anyone talk themselves into thinking this pair of shameless opportunists deserves a return to the White House is beyond me.
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Reading these comments I understand that most of them support Bernie and can be quite indignant about anyone including the president who might rain on their parade. But the people are speaking across the country and their wishes will prevail even if some think the system is rigged.
If you desert the election because your candidate does not prevail it will be on your heads when Trump takes the oath of office in January. Complain and protest all you want, but remember the stakes everywhere if Republicans or the shape shifter salesman Trump take this election.
If you desert the election because your candidate does not prevail it will be on your heads when Trump takes the oath of office in January. Complain and protest all you want, but remember the stakes everywhere if Republicans or the shape shifter salesman Trump take this election.
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At least Trump isn't part of the rigged system.
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So much for justice... she is under investigation and he lobbies for her.
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This is about power and control. It's more important than justice.
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The comments by Sanders supporters that say they will vote for a GOP candidate in the general election over HRC, should she be the nominee, make me question what values and issues these Sanders supporters actually are for. Immigration? Clearly not if they prefer to vote GOP over HRC. Any kind of universal healthcare? Also obviously not, if they prefer a GOP candidate over HRC. Not sending troops to fight wars abroad? Again, clearly they don't care about that if they would vote for a GOP candidate over HRC. Women's health rights and continued support of planned parenthood? Nope - they must not stand for that. Raising the taxes for the rich to help the rest of the 99%? Definitely won't happen with a GOP candidate. Ensuring that properly scientific sex education and anthropological sciences be taught in schools? Won't happen with the GOP. Gun control? Won't happen with the GOP - or with senator Sanders, for that matter. Concern about global warming? That literally goes out the window with the GOP. Free tuition at state colleges and universities? Trump university is all you'll get with the GOP. Raising the minimum wage? Won't happen with the GOP. Regulation on Wall Street? Ask any GOP candidate how they feel about that. So, what do these Sanders supporters actually care about?
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Government by and for the people..not government by and for the oligarchs. Geesh, wake up.
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The real reason why the DNC, Clinton and Obama are pushing to unite and back the 'establishment' nominee is because she is running out of money, and she might not be able to afford to pay the bills to run the presidential campaign if Bernie doesn't give up. Well... bad for her! Apparently Bernie does not have this problem!
Bernie must run until the end of the campaign to collect as much as votes and delegates as possible, and if he does not get the nomination he should run as Independent! I'm a Bernie supporters, with my wallet and heart, and this is what I demand to do from him.
Sorry guys, but the stake is too high. It's time that this country starts to listen to the millions of Independents and not who do not recognize themselves in any of the establishment parties.
To the those of you who say "I was a Bernie supporter but now..." Well folks, we don't need you in this movement. Please stick with Clinton and the rigged establishment candidates.
Bernie must run until the end of the campaign to collect as much as votes and delegates as possible, and if he does not get the nomination he should run as Independent! I'm a Bernie supporters, with my wallet and heart, and this is what I demand to do from him.
Sorry guys, but the stake is too high. It's time that this country starts to listen to the millions of Independents and not who do not recognize themselves in any of the establishment parties.
To the those of you who say "I was a Bernie supporter but now..." Well folks, we don't need you in this movement. Please stick with Clinton and the rigged establishment candidates.
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While Bernie is genuine with his ideas, & wants to dismantle Wall Street & rebuild the whole System, so is Hillary. She has been at Women's issues including Reproductive Rights, Early Childhood Education issues, Segregation & Universal Health care etc., etc., etc. All these she has been championing as a Young Lawyer, as a First Lady of Arkansas & later as First Lady of the Nation. She did not have to do any of these if she were not genuinely interested in.
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Mr. President, while I respect your recent remarks about Sec. Clinton, but her many failings as a candidate outweigh her ability to be what this country needs in the next President we elect. She seems to feel, and has just about said on many occasions...".Vote for me because I'm a Woman, and it's my Turn because of all I've suffered on your behalf".....I'm paraphrasing here of course, but listen carefully to her "Stump" speeches and it's there.
Seriously, if you were just a regular voter like the rest of us, would you vote for her????
Seriously, if you were just a regular voter like the rest of us, would you vote for her????
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It's only fitting as he's been a huge disappointment to liberals and they're both friend of Wall Street.
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Hard to believe that Obama is so out of touch with why people like Bernie. Yeah, Sander is "authentic," but people support him because they agree with his policies! $15 minimum wage, free public college, single payer healthcare, break up the big banks, take money out of politics. Why does all this not count? Why does his support get reduced to "authenticity"? It's insulting to Bernie supporters, and further evidence that the DNC and political establishment are threatened by these good ideas.
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Don't worry Bernies hard work will not be in vain. Elizabeth Warren for President 2020!!!
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errr she is hiding behind establishment folks.
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Obama stands up against Sanders and the public interest. Sad!
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At least a Democrat is supporting another Democrat running for the nomination...
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Let's assume this is what Obama 'privately' said, and set aside these tiring manipulations by the NYT. I vehemently disagree and find it offensive, because there's the suggestion that Bernie supporters have been swayed by a singular and impertinent quality. There's the suggestion that Bernie supporters are naive, shallow thinkers. The comparison between Bernie and Bush is inapt. In this present situation there's a direct correlation between trust, integrity, and policy making. Additionally, Bernie supporters have seriously considered the numbers. They are asking themselves which Democratic candidate has the best chance of defeating the likely Republican candidate, factoring in the considerable and undeniable hatred the average Republican has for Hillary. Bernie supporters are clear and determined, unwilling to get caught up in this sexism conversation, recognizing it as a deflection in the face of legitimate concerns and inconvenient truths. We couldn't care less about gender. The same can't be said for many of her supporters, who clearly are supportive of her primarily because she's a woman. Who is REALLY caught up in gender here? Who is trotting out the Katy Perrys, the Gloria Steinems, and the 'mothers' of young African-Americans who've been killed by law enforcement in recent years? Get honest and get real here! Bernie supporters are not willing to leave off serious concerns about the economy and integrity of this country for the sake of an historical achievement.
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What does President Obama know about the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's e-mail server that we don't know? I can guess.
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The message is passed to people who have paid, for a single fundraiser, more than ONE THOUSAND TIMES the average contribution to Sanders' campaign.
Message: we are the moneyed elite, and we decided that the race is over.
The idea that continuing the process will only increase the chance of a Republican winning is astonishingly dishonest. The only circumstance where that's the case is where the favorite of the moneyed elite is a terrible candidate given to unforced gaffes. Oh, wait, does promising to put coal companies and their employees out of business, or lauding a purely fictional "national conversation on HIV/AIDS" started by the Reagans count? Well, that's a horse of a different color. This is the candidate whose seriousness about deposing and allowing a tyrant to die was "we came, we saw, he died." Too bad that the upshot of that smugly self satisfied action was that Libya is now the country with the third most active branch of ISIS in the world.
Message: we are the moneyed elite, and we decided that the race is over.
The idea that continuing the process will only increase the chance of a Republican winning is astonishingly dishonest. The only circumstance where that's the case is where the favorite of the moneyed elite is a terrible candidate given to unforced gaffes. Oh, wait, does promising to put coal companies and their employees out of business, or lauding a purely fictional "national conversation on HIV/AIDS" started by the Reagans count? Well, that's a horse of a different color. This is the candidate whose seriousness about deposing and allowing a tyrant to die was "we came, we saw, he died." Too bad that the upshot of that smugly self satisfied action was that Libya is now the country with the third most active branch of ISIS in the world.
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The Democratic candidates (and their supporters) need to refrain from doing significant damage to each other. And when the time comes (soon no doubt) that it is clear who is the Democratic candidate we need to rally around him or her. And anyone can see the count is in Hillary's favor. So rallying around her will be the probable road. And Hillary is smart, experienced and capable.
This is what Obama is saying. And as usual he is right.
This is what Obama is saying. And as usual he is right.
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There is only one real Democrat running this time, and a bunch of Republicans. I will write his name in on my ballot if I have to. Hillary is no better than Trump.
By the way, other than her service on the Walmart board, her decision to invade Iraq, and her lucrative Top Secret speeches to Wall Street Thieves, just what are Hillary's other accomplishments?
By the way, other than her service on the Walmart board, her decision to invade Iraq, and her lucrative Top Secret speeches to Wall Street Thieves, just what are Hillary's other accomplishments?
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It's still bad form.
A major part of the very populous northeast has not had the chance to cast a ballot. And pretty much the west coast has not had the chance to cast a ballot. But we should fold our tents and fade away into the mist, because the south has spoken? I guess the President forgets where his job description ends, as well as who empowers whom in this arrangement we have, called a democracy.
Ah, who am I fooling? ... Still I like to pretend my voice will be heard at this important point in the process. Sounds pretty naïve, I know, but how else to get a person behind a candidate they may not like very much, if not to at least create the illusion that it was a fair contest?
Ah, who am I fooling? ... Still I like to pretend my voice will be heard at this important point in the process. Sounds pretty naïve, I know, but how else to get a person behind a candidate they may not like very much, if not to at least create the illusion that it was a fair contest?
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It's funny how Clinton supporters minimize the difference between her and Sanders, while conjuring up this huge chasm of difference between Clinton and any Republican. But I see the difference between Kasich/Romney and Clinton as hair width, and I'll vote for character (which Clinton lacks), if I can't vote for Bernie.
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As I read these comments I am more and more persuaded that many of those which are so hostile to Obama and to Clinton have been written by trolls from the Trump campaign. After all, Sanders graduated from the University of Chicago; it cannot be that his "serious" supporters are as dumb as these comments suggest. Sanders is not pitching his campaign to the passionately ignorant; that is the crowd that has already been won over by Trump.
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No Mike... What we are saying is there is probably very little difference between Hillary and Trump. If anything, Trump has a more successful record of achievement. What has Hillary actually accomplished for We The People? She's made a personal fortune for herself, and supported strategies that led to the unraveling of the Middle East - she's gotten herself into plenty of trouble with questionable judgement... but just what has she accomplished?
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Tom--your response confirms my suspicions. It is certainly ironic that your blame of Clinton includes the allegation that " She's made a personal fortune for herself..."
And don't forget Tom, that personal fortune was amassed during a lifetime of so-called "public service." Rigged system, indeed.
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There seems to be some question as to whether the President actually said this. At any rate, it not perceived lack of authenticity on Hillary's part, it is a long standing lack of integrity.
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Obama has really changed. Don't understand how he can say "authenticity" is not important. He had no experience in federal governing and ran on platforms of Change and Hope. Now, authenticity and idealism are not important but experience is? Well, it is important to Bernie supporters, whom overwhelmingly also voted for him. He needs to respect the democratic election process and let the people's voices be heard until June. As a Bernie supporters, this has fired me up and I'm determined not to let any institutional politician or institution shut down our voices. It's our time and our voices. Obama, you had yours, and kindly step off the mic.
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The open exchange of ideas and opinion expressed in these comments is one thing, but it feels creepy to know that some of the anti-Hillary comments are coming from right-wingers who are pretending not to be. If there are Sanders supporters who really believe some of these things being said about Clinton that's one thing, but don't get sucked in by the lies Republicans have been spreading for years.
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Please list, with citations, the "things being said about Clinton" that are untrue. Politifact, on the other hand, has a long documented list of the lies she's told in public. I can dig out the link if you really want it. Just for starters.
I like Obama, but these remarks were a mistake I feel.
Authenticity is important for winning elections. This is what Democrats, including the donors he was speaking to, are concerned about. How Sanders might govern is another matter. But there is a contraction here; he also said that Sanders would make a good president.
Sanders’ supporters already feel alienated. Obama’s statements will only further this (especially considering that he is the leader of the party). Sanders has been battling the Democratic establishment since day one and there is evidence that the DNC has indeed favoured Clinton. The DNC is now reaping what they have sewn.
Ironically Obama’s comments could help Sanders as it enforces his image as being suppressed by the establishment.
Obama acknowledged Clinton’s failure to generate excitement. But, if she’s not generating excitement, why is he supporting her for the nomination? Another contradiction.
Arguments can be made that Clinton is the weaker against Trump. Not only is she not generating excitement, she is also disliked by the majority of people. Trump is as well, but he is a natural politician. Clinton is not, as she has acknowledged. Trump has ample material to attack with, he will use all of it, and play to the masses, as we have seen.
Sanders has a cleaner history, and is a better politician. Polling also suggests he is stronger against Trump.
I am very concerned that Clinton is the wrong person for the nomination, and will lose in November.
Authenticity is important for winning elections. This is what Democrats, including the donors he was speaking to, are concerned about. How Sanders might govern is another matter. But there is a contraction here; he also said that Sanders would make a good president.
Sanders’ supporters already feel alienated. Obama’s statements will only further this (especially considering that he is the leader of the party). Sanders has been battling the Democratic establishment since day one and there is evidence that the DNC has indeed favoured Clinton. The DNC is now reaping what they have sewn.
Ironically Obama’s comments could help Sanders as it enforces his image as being suppressed by the establishment.
Obama acknowledged Clinton’s failure to generate excitement. But, if she’s not generating excitement, why is he supporting her for the nomination? Another contradiction.
Arguments can be made that Clinton is the weaker against Trump. Not only is she not generating excitement, she is also disliked by the majority of people. Trump is as well, but he is a natural politician. Clinton is not, as she has acknowledged. Trump has ample material to attack with, he will use all of it, and play to the masses, as we have seen.
Sanders has a cleaner history, and is a better politician. Polling also suggests he is stronger against Trump.
I am very concerned that Clinton is the wrong person for the nomination, and will lose in November.
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Sanders supporters like to pretend that theirs is the only 'authentic' candidate who has the heartfelt support of the people, while Clinton is a puppet of some anonymous 'plutocrats' . They don't even realize how terrible this rhetoric sounds to anybody even slightly familiar with the history of 20th-century demagoguery. Well, I'm just as passionate in my support for Hillary as they are in their support for Sanders. Wall Street is not paying me a cent, and when I declare that I'll sit out this election rather than vote for a disaster that is President Sanders I mean it.
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Let's not mince world's or spin it—This is essentially an endorsement of Hilary by Obama.
There is a great dismissal of her refusing to disclose the transcripts to her talks to Wall Street for millions. Don't for a minute believe they'd invest that money without some return. If there's nothing to hide let it see the light of sunshine and prevent buyers remorse after the election.
Shame on the NYT and Obama for devaluing my vote by the constant drumbeat to cripple one of the democratic candidates before I get to place my vote. Could this be why voter engagement in America is so much lower than anywhere else in the world because most voters know it's preordained no matter how they vote?
There is a great dismissal of her refusing to disclose the transcripts to her talks to Wall Street for millions. Don't for a minute believe they'd invest that money without some return. If there's nothing to hide let it see the light of sunshine and prevent buyers remorse after the election.
Shame on the NYT and Obama for devaluing my vote by the constant drumbeat to cripple one of the democratic candidates before I get to place my vote. Could this be why voter engagement in America is so much lower than anywhere else in the world because most voters know it's preordained no matter how they vote?
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This is the first time Barack Obama has disappointed me. I do not think I can recover my admiration after this sneaky act. He has forgotten the ordinary voter and our concerns.
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If this article is true (remarks conveniently mad after reporters left the room, confirmed by an unnamed official, sources granted anonymity, NYT endorses Hillary and is biased against Sanders), I wonder if the Deep State is forcing Obama's hand, here, as they are frothing at the mouth for a(nother) Clinton presidency.
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I am just wondering when you guys are going to issue an apology for this misleading and untrue report. It's irresponsible journalism and you should be embarrassed for not addressing this error.
"No, it is not what he in fact said," White House spokesman Josh Earnest responded about whether the report was accurate.
"I was there for the part where this conversation occurred," Earnest said. "What I'll just say in general is that President Obama made a case that would be familiar to all of you, which is that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in November, in electing a Democratic president, will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee," Earnest explained.
"No, it is not what he in fact said," White House spokesman Josh Earnest responded about whether the report was accurate.
"I was there for the part where this conversation occurred," Earnest said. "What I'll just say in general is that President Obama made a case that would be familiar to all of you, which is that as Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in November, in electing a Democratic president, will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic Party to come together behind our nominee," Earnest explained.
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Press Secretary Earnest said, President Obama did not "in fact" say what the reporter asked - which wasn't, did the President endorse Hillary? It doesn't seem clear to me at all what Mr. Obama actually said although it seems like it must have been along the lines of what was reported, as vague and underhanded as it may be. The authenticity statement wasn't addressed in the "clarifications" by Mr. Earnest. Comparing the authenticity of Bernie to George Bush is deplorable and dismissive of facts.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
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Elections are so 20th century. Who needs them?
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So all of us idealistic chumps will rush out today for a Hillary lawn sign and
bumper sticker? Redirect our W2 hourly wage earner contributions
to her PACS?
That's as likely as the President privately telling Hillary to be more authentic.
bumper sticker? Redirect our W2 hourly wage earner contributions
to her PACS?
That's as likely as the President privately telling Hillary to be more authentic.
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Obama is wrong about this issue regarding the campaign and on almost every important issue impacting our country. Fortunately, his presidency will be over in several months.
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According to Press Secretary John Earnest, this article is blatantly false, and Obama said that the party needs to come together around THE NOMINEE; he did not in fact say that the party needed to come together around CLINTON.
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It is good to remember that this is the same guy who failed to prosecute the Wall Street thieves who robbed the people and almost destroyed America.
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As you can see Mr. Obama, there are millions of us who aren't feeling the "hope and change" you promised in '08...we hoped and you changed. You had me believe that I was voting for a POTUS that was going to leave behind the machinations of the DLC. Boy were we duped. You and Wasserman-Schultz have done nothing to gain back state legislatures lost to Republican Tea Partiers since 2010...nothing. The DNC and your supporters now realize that choosing HRC was a terrible choice ... the Democrats are hanging on a thread to keep the one branch of government that they hold with an HRC candidacy. You have already alienated those of us left in the party whom i would call FDR/LBJ democrats and now you are going to throw away the support of Regan Democrats, Independents and the youth who are supporting Mr. Sanders' platform. Your legacy might just be the biggest schism in the Democratic party since 1972. Bravo.
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I am surprised that Mr. Obama didn't recognize the perfect irony of his comments, encouraging supporters to rally behind Mrs. Clinton at a fundraiser where donors paid some $33,000 to attend.
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With all due respect to the President, and no matter what he says, I will NEVER vote for Hillary Clinton. If it ends up being Trump vs. Clinton, I will also not "hold my nose and vote for the lesser of two evils", as that would mean voting for Trump. I will simply write-in Sanders name.
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Soon we will know if Sander's revolution is about him and his ego or if it's larger than that and about the American people. If it's about the American people he will support Clinton and the Democratic Party if she finishes with more delegates. He will be a driving force in a Clinton administration with enough political capital to keep pushing for his agenda. But he will be impotent in a republican administration and his revolution will be all but dead. So what's it going to be?
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You don't know much about Bernie Sanders if you think this is about his ego. As a Vermonter and a Bernie supporter for years, I have watched his genuine care for others and his consistent message even before he became a political figure. And, if it is about the American people, he will do what he has always done, advocate for the poor and the middle class, the end of corporate control of politics and climate change. No obfuscation, just Bernie. His opponent is a skilled obfuscator who "evolves" to Bernie's positions on a monthly, even a daily basis. Why should anyone believe her?
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Has anyone else noticed how stopped talking about Flint right after the Michigan primary? Has anyone else noticed how her "Obama" references have declined after the Southern primaries...? Has anyone else noticed how the media has given her a free pass on her Top Secret Wall Street speeches or her decision to invade Iraq?
Do voters notice anything anymore?
The truth is, Hillary stands for nothing.
Do voters notice anything anymore?
The truth is, Hillary stands for nothing.
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Here in MN I voted for Sanders. If he is not nominated, I vote Jill Stein. If she is struck by a bolt of lightning, I vote anyone other than Hillary.
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"Time Is Coming to Unite Behind Hillary Clinton"
Probably President Obama's way of telling the FBI/Dept. of Justice to back off.
Probably President Obama's way of telling the FBI/Dept. of Justice to back off.
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No Barack. I will never unite with your wealthy cronies and back Wall Street's Walmart Queen. You know, the one who thought it was a smart idea to support George W Bush and Dick Cheney with their bogus Iraq debacle based on lies... The one who has done nothing but enrich herself and make the world a more dangerous place with her "service" to our country. I'd rather see a Republican in the White House.
We had only one real Democrat to choose from this time around... And if I have to, I will write his name in on my ballot.
We had only one real Democrat to choose from this time around... And if I have to, I will write his name in on my ballot.
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What the POTUS has to say does NOT mean it's what Sen. Sanders will do. In fact Sanders is taking this to California and New York. His messages on what's truly going on today in America are welcomed.
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This news brings President Obama, who I have supported, down a peg or two in my estimation. His comments, if true (and the NYT has been known to skew information in favor of Clinton), are unbecoming in a President who found himself in the same position in 2008 as Mr Sanders today. Mr Sanders has caucused with the Democrats during his career and is running as a Democrat. The President has no business seeming to endorse one Democrat over another, especially in an election that is supposed to be democratic. Shame on you, President Obama.
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If this election cycle has taught us anything, it is We The People are disgusted with the corruption in both parties... It is time to form new political parties, Folks. These two only exist to protect and enrich the interests of corporate billionaires.
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First and foremost, people need to realize that Obama is a shrewd politician. These statements are not aimed at Sanders. They are directly aimed at the remaining electorate. He knows Sanders could care less on what he thinks.
He basically wants to convince moderate Sanders leaning supporters to start voting for Clinton thereby reducing his margin of victory in the upcoming states. He has vested interest in seeing Clinton win regardless of his claims of neutrality. Only Clinton would fight hard to keep Obamacare in its current form, one of the signature achievements of his presidency. Sanders of course has bigger plans.
Don't even think for a second that the president is naive about this fact. He is way too smart for that. This is one of the reasons why we don't want a third Obama term or a Hillary term. I like Obama but the more he talks, he is loosing my respect.
Folks, this is what you need to understand. Of the top 8 states based on GDP (i.e. GSP), only 4 have voted (Texas, Florida, Illinios and Ohio). They account for only 40% of the top 8 states' total GSP. The remaining 4 (CA, NY, NJ and PA) account for 60% of the top 8 states' GSP and they haven't voted. Nearly half the electorate haven't voted. The margin of her lead is not that big if you ignore super delegates. Sanders can actually pull it off if women and elderly take an impartial look at what both candidates want to achieve. They have been skewing the system for the worse.
He basically wants to convince moderate Sanders leaning supporters to start voting for Clinton thereby reducing his margin of victory in the upcoming states. He has vested interest in seeing Clinton win regardless of his claims of neutrality. Only Clinton would fight hard to keep Obamacare in its current form, one of the signature achievements of his presidency. Sanders of course has bigger plans.
Don't even think for a second that the president is naive about this fact. He is way too smart for that. This is one of the reasons why we don't want a third Obama term or a Hillary term. I like Obama but the more he talks, he is loosing my respect.
Folks, this is what you need to understand. Of the top 8 states based on GDP (i.e. GSP), only 4 have voted (Texas, Florida, Illinios and Ohio). They account for only 40% of the top 8 states' total GSP. The remaining 4 (CA, NY, NJ and PA) account for 60% of the top 8 states' GSP and they haven't voted. Nearly half the electorate haven't voted. The margin of her lead is not that big if you ignore super delegates. Sanders can actually pull it off if women and elderly take an impartial look at what both candidates want to achieve. They have been skewing the system for the worse.
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I am disappointed that my president thinks I should not allow Bernie Sanders the loyalty that I gave to him, Obama, in 2008. The President, as the the leader of the part,y should wait for the people to make their choice and then generate support for that candidate, but not until then. The NYT and the President should wait until we have a nominee to voice their opinions on who I support. In rebuttal, I support Bernie Sanders.
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The problem with Bernie is that he is getting his troops on the voting booth,
In State after State, the under 40 post Cold War crowd is voting for Bernie circa 65-60%. Yet they comprise of only 30% of the voters.
In State after State, the under 40 post Cold War crowd is voting for Bernie circa 65-60%. Yet they comprise of only 30% of the voters.
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Bernie has supporters in all age groups. What he doesn't have is thirty years of name recognition, corporate blood money, a biased media, Wall Street cronies, and the corrupt DNC supporting his every move.
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President Obama speaks to the .01% and tells them Bernie should get out of the race. My message to the President and the rest of the Democratic establishment after reading this: I gave $27 last night to Bernie. And I look forward to Bernie staying in and speaking to the convention.
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I'm tired of hearing that people are not "excited" about Hillary Clinton's campaign. I'm tired of the press repeatedly implying that no one is voting for her because they really want to. It is simply not true. Clinton's many loyal supporters of all kinds should not be continually dismissed and disregarded; they should be recognized as being just as enthusiastic as Mr. Sander's supporters. They have been at it longer, too.
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By the way, perhaps the NY Times could produce an article about Hillary's supporters. We've seen so much coverage of Bernie's and/or Trump's crowd that it appears Hillary doesn't have one.
If Obama really came out made such a statement; Another disappointment from the brother who I worked hard, had an impact and got elected. I educated voters on the street, over the telephone and internet on mass transit, at rallies the failures of the Clintons and why they should give Obama a chance. i challenged them to research the Clintons before making their decision and what happened? Obama was elected.
I am almost ready to go work for Bernie!!! He has all the more reason to stay in the race now!! If Bernie's people take the same protocol, he'll win with a large margin.
I am almost ready to go work for Bernie!!! He has all the more reason to stay in the race now!! If Bernie's people take the same protocol, he'll win with a large margin.
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Mr. Obama should not be promoting one candidate over another, especially while in office. His comments place him squarely in a context that he should not indulge in, especially since it is at the expense of the process that put him in office in the first place.
This was a bad move.
This was a bad move.
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I had been bracing to be quite distraught when Obama's presidency ends. On balance, I think he has been a superb president. Ill-advised efforts like this one to cut short Bernie Sanders' campaign will make it easier to say, 'Fare thee well" to this president.
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It's hard to tell whether all the commenters that aggressively insist they'd rather vote for Trump rather than Hillary, are in reality Trump supporters or Bernie's.
If they are Bernie supporters and acting "strategically", I would understand their tactic: scare the Hillary voters to instead vote for Bernie (fearful of a Trump presidency).
But, if they are Bernie supporters and acting out of anger, my request would be: please don't. There is no way one can compare Hillary with Trump and have her come out worse. Sure, she may be inauthentic (after essentially co-opting Sanders platform), and may be accused of lying by her detractors, her faults pale in comparison to Trump's. Trump not only lies every 5 minutes on average (per study by Politico), but is also a bigot, xenophobe, and racist who encourages violence.
I mean seriously, who are you comparing Hillary to?
Trump is not simply a new face on the political scene, he is a danger to America and American values. This election is truly consequential and one where your children will ask you: what did you do when you had to vote in 2016? Did you vote to make America hate again?
Please don't let your anger force a rash decision.
If they are Bernie supporters and acting "strategically", I would understand their tactic: scare the Hillary voters to instead vote for Bernie (fearful of a Trump presidency).
But, if they are Bernie supporters and acting out of anger, my request would be: please don't. There is no way one can compare Hillary with Trump and have her come out worse. Sure, she may be inauthentic (after essentially co-opting Sanders platform), and may be accused of lying by her detractors, her faults pale in comparison to Trump's. Trump not only lies every 5 minutes on average (per study by Politico), but is also a bigot, xenophobe, and racist who encourages violence.
I mean seriously, who are you comparing Hillary to?
Trump is not simply a new face on the political scene, he is a danger to America and American values. This election is truly consequential and one where your children will ask you: what did you do when you had to vote in 2016? Did you vote to make America hate again?
Please don't let your anger force a rash decision.
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Hillary has shown nothing but incompetence and self interest her entire career... Walmart, Wall Street, Libya, personal server, and Iraq, to name a few... I will never vote for her... And no, I will not vote for Trump. I will proudly write in Bernie Sanders if I have to.
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There is no surprise that our corporation coddling President wouldn't support Bernie. Since his inauguration he has steadfastly avoided any support for the 'change' he was so adroit at inferring during his campaigns. I see him as a wastrel and an artful deceiver. Having been elected with a mandate and a congressional majority he ends having accomplished very little for those who elected him. After 50 years of supporting the Democratic Party, I am through with it.
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He presided over the loss of the most Democratic senators and reps ever. That's an accomplishment!
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I live in CA where the delegate count is 545, a state that exports crops to all 49 states - we feed you guys. We also lead the country in mostly positive ways from climate change to social change. We had the opportunity to vote for Clinton or Obama in 2008 and you're telling me that we don't have that opportunity now?
We also have air pollution, homelessness, foreclosures and all the other stuff that comes along with income inequality. Let us vote for the candidate who we believe is the best equipped to challenge these issues. Give us our democratic choice and maybe we'll go all the way to the convention.
We also have air pollution, homelessness, foreclosures and all the other stuff that comes along with income inequality. Let us vote for the candidate who we believe is the best equipped to challenge these issues. Give us our democratic choice and maybe we'll go all the way to the convention.
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Were any of Obama's $34K-a-plate elite so presumptuous as to suggest that Hilary Clinton has appeared to have no memory, and apparently little recollection of even recent history history?
What else explains how she could pay false tribute to the Reagan's treatment of AIDS victim and Hollywood leading man, Cary Grant? The Reagans, supposedly Grant's Hollywood friend, left the ailing Grant out to dry in Paris, out to die.
Add to that godawful behavior the latest insult to our intelligence as Hilary Clinton paid tribute to the very people who deserted Grant on his deathbed in the name of "fairness to all". This is the type of Hollywood democracy that Bernie Sanders hopes to unravel in this election.
We all should be aware of the "democracy" foisted upon us by the PAC puppet-masters and their minions like Clinton.
At this juncture, if Sanders is to be quashed by the Democratic party, I would rather Trump than a pathetic truant who professes to tell the truth!
We deserve what we get.
What else explains how she could pay false tribute to the Reagan's treatment of AIDS victim and Hollywood leading man, Cary Grant? The Reagans, supposedly Grant's Hollywood friend, left the ailing Grant out to dry in Paris, out to die.
Add to that godawful behavior the latest insult to our intelligence as Hilary Clinton paid tribute to the very people who deserted Grant on his deathbed in the name of "fairness to all". This is the type of Hollywood democracy that Bernie Sanders hopes to unravel in this election.
We all should be aware of the "democracy" foisted upon us by the PAC puppet-masters and their minions like Clinton.
At this juncture, if Sanders is to be quashed by the Democratic party, I would rather Trump than a pathetic truant who professes to tell the truth!
We deserve what we get.
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It was Rock Hudson, not Cary Grant.
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Bernie's not the only one being ignored, Hillary doesn't get the media coverage she deserves; Trump and the GOP's antics are getting the lion's share of the coverage.
I believe what President Obama sees is an unwillingness of Sanders's supporters to admit he's losing - yes he is! - and those Democrats need to ultimately pivot their positions to support Hillary - if they are to remain Democrats. Of course, Bernie doesn't care if they remain Democrats because he's an independent running as a Democrat, but Obama cares.
I've never experienced such Democratic supporters as Sanders's, it's as if they were members of a cult, under hypnosis as deeply as Trump's supporters. Truly ugly.
I believe what President Obama sees is an unwillingness of Sanders's supporters to admit he's losing - yes he is! - and those Democrats need to ultimately pivot their positions to support Hillary - if they are to remain Democrats. Of course, Bernie doesn't care if they remain Democrats because he's an independent running as a Democrat, but Obama cares.
I've never experienced such Democratic supporters as Sanders's, it's as if they were members of a cult, under hypnosis as deeply as Trump's supporters. Truly ugly.
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"Hillary doesn't get the media coverage she deserves"
I agree. I'd like to see a lot more coverage of her time on the Walmart board, her decision to invade Iraq, and her speeches to Wall Street thieves... Seems the media has ignored quite a bit about Hillary...
I agree. I'd like to see a lot more coverage of her time on the Walmart board, her decision to invade Iraq, and her speeches to Wall Street thieves... Seems the media has ignored quite a bit about Hillary...
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Tom, if you're going to bring that issue up, do it completely: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/31/clinton-remained-silent-a_n_842...
She remained silent on the board of Walmart as the company went after unions in the years 1986-1992, 24 years ago. Is that worth vilifying her? I don't think so, that's my decision.
Are you going to tell me that you have not changed your mind on some topics since then? Are you proud of every job you're had? Oh, maybe you are. And then there's Saint Bernie...who never changes. Right.
She remained silent on the board of Walmart as the company went after unions in the years 1986-1992, 24 years ago. Is that worth vilifying her? I don't think so, that's my decision.
Are you going to tell me that you have not changed your mind on some topics since then? Are you proud of every job you're had? Oh, maybe you are. And then there's Saint Bernie...who never changes. Right.
That's the issue in a nutshell, Tom. That's why her supporters label truth-telling as "vitriol." They're not used to hearing it stated bluntly.
As a Sanders and Obama supporter this comes as a major disappointment. What we are being told by the DNC is that a voter's participation doesn't amount to much. Our choice is made for us and any input to the contrary isn't worthy of serious consideration. Authentic was the word used in 2008 to describe Barack Obama by his supporters as a way to convey a belief that we were seeing a new kind of politician. Many of us feel similarly about Senator Sanders in 2016.
The New York Times admitted today that in covering Sanders' campaign, he hasn't always been taken seriously. What a disservice to the readers. The eventual candidate will be decided based on what's best for the party. The people not so much. An illusion as opposed to any real involvement in the process.
The New York Times admitted today that in covering Sanders' campaign, he hasn't always been taken seriously. What a disservice to the readers. The eventual candidate will be decided based on what's best for the party. The people not so much. An illusion as opposed to any real involvement in the process.
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Interesting to read Clinton strategist predicting she will capture as much as the white male vote as President Obama. This could be a huge misjudgment as Trump is not Romney - the evidence is already in that he is broadening his base. Clinton has to talk strongly about the offshoring of jobs and phony free trade otherwise she will lose, and deservedly so. The Democrats will be partly responsible for putting Trump into office!
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President Obama asked large donors to stop contributing to the Bernie Sanders campaign. The only problem with that is that none of the large donors donate to the Bernie Sanders Campaign. Sanders relies on individual small donors. The large donors have already been donating to the Hillary Clinton Campaign.
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I have already commented that the President's remarks at the Austin event were unfair and violated "The Golden Rule" but the more I think about his remarks did he hurt Mrs. Clinton's chances. After all, he is the current ultimate Democrat that the GOP members vigorously oppose at every turn. There seem to be a lot of independents and so-called "Reagan Democrats" who may be triggered to vote against any candidate that President Obama would endorse. It is ugly, I know but just listening to talk radio and statements made on CNN by Trump supporters, you begin to wonder if any democratic candidate can win the independents back. But the worst that Democrats can do is to terminate the prospects of Mr. Sanders. His ideas are compelling, even for Mrs. Clinton.
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This is an exciting moment for a Democrat of my age.
Seeing Senator Sanders marshal the younger voters fires my passion also.
Having a party with the a range of inclusivity of our two candidates leads me to suspect that Democrats are on their way to electing those who will restore a fair and just society at all levels of government.
Our dark night of frustration at the hands of the just-say-no party is coming to a close.
Seeing Senator Sanders marshal the younger voters fires my passion also.
Having a party with the a range of inclusivity of our two candidates leads me to suspect that Democrats are on their way to electing those who will restore a fair and just society at all levels of government.
Our dark night of frustration at the hands of the just-say-no party is coming to a close.
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I'm amazed that the American people most of whom are ignorant regarding American history and world history still think that America has a functional democracy. I'm even more amazed that educated black people and gay people are voting for Hillary. Do they not remember the 90s? History shows that when ever some one stands up for equal rights, black people, social change, peace and justice, they get a bullet to the head. Not a single candidate will talk about our criminal corporate agricultural system that is poisoning the American people. We wonder why so many of our loved ones die of cancer. It's great business to keep Americans sick and they know it.
Not a single candidate will talk about removing the toxic chemical waste, 'fluoride' from our nations municipal water supply. Flint? What about the rest of the country? FDA is filled with people like Mitt Romney and other former cronies of the likes of Monsanto. Not a single candidate will talk about putting war criminals and crimes against humanity behind bars including the 911 bombing, and the continued bombing of innocent men women and children over seas. We can start with the Clintons, and the Bush Family. Not a single candidate will talk about ending the Feds. These are fundamental issues that go against the establishment. These are the fundamental issues of real change.
Not a single candidate will talk about removing the toxic chemical waste, 'fluoride' from our nations municipal water supply. Flint? What about the rest of the country? FDA is filled with people like Mitt Romney and other former cronies of the likes of Monsanto. Not a single candidate will talk about putting war criminals and crimes against humanity behind bars including the 911 bombing, and the continued bombing of innocent men women and children over seas. We can start with the Clintons, and the Bush Family. Not a single candidate will talk about ending the Feds. These are fundamental issues that go against the establishment. These are the fundamental issues of real change.
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This is an eminently reasonable position by our President. Bernie's continued campaigning only drains resources needed in the general election to turn back what is a shaping up to be a truly frightening set of options on the Republican ticket. My only fear is that Bernie will listen to the crowds rather than the counsel of the party and continue to run out of vanity or some misguided conviction that the delegate math could break in his favor. Both will end up hurting Democratic candidates up and down the ticket.
People need to realize that first and foremost Obama is a politician. The statements are most probably at the electorate and not Sanders. He knows Sanders could care less on what he thinks.
He basically wants to convince moderate Sanders leaning supporters to start voting for Clinton instead thereby reducing his margin of victory in the upcoming states. He has vested interest in seeing Clinton win regardless of his claims of neutrality. Who else would fight harder to keep Obamacare more than Clinton?
He basically wants to convince moderate Sanders leaning supporters to start voting for Clinton instead thereby reducing his margin of victory in the upcoming states. He has vested interest in seeing Clinton win regardless of his claims of neutrality. Who else would fight harder to keep Obamacare more than Clinton?
I have supported Bernie from day one. His accomplishment in making us all aware of some evils we need to correct in our governance has been monumental. Unfair college tuition & relief from existing student loans, minimum hourly wage, Medicare for all, the list goes on. He has lost but will continue the fight all the way to the convention, the way Hillary did. That's what I want. But I've switched my modest monthly donation to her and am trying to get a bumper sticker to replace the "Bernie 2016" I just took off.
Thanks, Bernie. Keep voicing your causes.
Thanks, Bernie. Keep voicing your causes.
As a Californian, with our primary not until June, President Obama, who I support, appears to be writing off the western states that have not had primaries yet. That feels undemocratic to me. It also makes me feel like we are heading for a general election in which a puppet of Wall Street will face a reckless billionaire. One thing I'm ready to predict is that income inequality will reign supreme for the next 4 to 8 years. What a pity.
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I continue to be irritated by the way that votes, mainly by delegates in states that do not vote Democratic, continue to be counted as if they were relevant. And I think that this statement by Obama is highly inappropriate and will simply confirm people's belief that the game is fixed.
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The fact that the nomination seems to have been run before the primaries - I'm talking about the injustice of the "superdelegate" process - means that Bernie Sanders and all of the support he has mustered, didn't really have a chance to begin with. The fact that Clinton sows doubt about her dedication to campaign reform and her relationship with Wall Street is enough in some people's minds that this thing should have been closer now. The most reassuring thing she could do is pick Sanders to be her V.P., but most of us don't believe that has a chance. And that goes for Elizabeth Warren as well. There are factors about how Democrats configure their primaries that leave a lot to be desired in this opinion.
Like it or not, the Democrate Party will not have a united front in this year's election. The Democrate presumptive candidate is woefully inadequate to voters of all shapes and sizes. Trump is woefully inadequate to voters of all shapes and sizes. Both the DMC and the RMC are woefully inadequate for allowing this mess we call the 2016 Election. After spending millions upon millions on the election process is this the best that money can buy? Who is accountable for such poor quality control. I will not spend my vote on such inferior products. I will vote for Dewey.
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Bernie fans were understandably and deservedly thrilled when Senator Sanders, despite being far behind in the polls, was able to upset Secretary Clinton in Michigan with an impressive win. Also, the electoral wind seemed to be in his sails with big turnouts in several states.
But following the losses of Super Tuesday, the supporters seem to be hard at work grumbling and finding fault in the lack of media coverage.
The majority of my news watching is centered on (no surprise for a "lefty") MSNBC. And I have to say, purely anecdotally, that once Sanders started pulling in massive crowds at his rallies, it struck me that this single specific network, began covering Sanders quite a bit. MSNBC has been thrilled with the fact that the Democratic race for the nomination actually turned into a real race and Hillary's "inevitability" was erased. Their viewers obviously trend liberal and the Democratic side of things became a lot more exciting and newsworthy when Sanders started winning.
But when it comes to disproportionate coverage, the news media is guilty of using Trump as a ratings booster to unprofessional and embarrassing lengths. While Trump rewrites the rules of political journalism (he lazily and literally phones in most of his interviews, he orders the media to be confined to media "pens" with no freedom to use the bathroom, much less be able to move among the attendees), the media in return acquiesces. It's a disgrace. And more people need to talk about it.
But following the losses of Super Tuesday, the supporters seem to be hard at work grumbling and finding fault in the lack of media coverage.
The majority of my news watching is centered on (no surprise for a "lefty") MSNBC. And I have to say, purely anecdotally, that once Sanders started pulling in massive crowds at his rallies, it struck me that this single specific network, began covering Sanders quite a bit. MSNBC has been thrilled with the fact that the Democratic race for the nomination actually turned into a real race and Hillary's "inevitability" was erased. Their viewers obviously trend liberal and the Democratic side of things became a lot more exciting and newsworthy when Sanders started winning.
But when it comes to disproportionate coverage, the news media is guilty of using Trump as a ratings booster to unprofessional and embarrassing lengths. While Trump rewrites the rules of political journalism (he lazily and literally phones in most of his interviews, he orders the media to be confined to media "pens" with no freedom to use the bathroom, much less be able to move among the attendees), the media in return acquiesces. It's a disgrace. And more people need to talk about it.
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Geography and demographics favors Sander's populist message. His campaign is not an anti-Clinton crusade but a critique of what issues resound with the poor, disenfranchised, middle and working classes. Hillary's strength is based on aligning herself with the Obama and Clinton's presidency's popularity! In the last democratic debate we saw what Hillary does best, pandering to the audience at hand and waffling on the issue of deportation; subsequently criticizing the president on the issue. The debate revealed the chameleon like qualities of Hilliary who will say and do anything; alter the facts; deny the facts and alter history. Hillary is dishonest, disingenuous, duplicitous, operating by a different set of rule by which a wrong can be explained and manipulated into a right by use of sophistry, obfuscation and prevarication!
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Geography and demographics favors Sander's populist message. His campaign is not an anti-Clinton crusade but a critique of what issues resound with the poor, disenfranchised, middle and working classes. Hillary's strength is based on aligning herself with the Obama and Clinton's presidency's popularity! In the last democratic debate we saw what Hillary does best, pandering to the audience at hand and waffling on the issue of deportation; subsequently criticizing the president on the issue. The debate revealed the chameleon like qualities of Hilliary who will say and do anything; alter the facts; deny the facts and alter history. Hillary is dishonest, disingenuous, duplicitous, operating by a different set of rule by which a wrong can be explained and manipulated into a right by use of sophistry, obfuscation and prevarication!
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The latest objective headline by the Times says "As Hillary Sweeps States...".
Yes, we can see the map, too, but several key Clinton wins were virtual ties, or extremely close. If it were Trump tied with Cruz say in Massachusetts and
Missouri, the headlines would be screaming and the pundits out-doing each other to speculate on what is going to happen next. Instead, Sanders is being
"disappeared" from the news. The fourth estate continues to fail in its mission to inform the public, although a very significant share of the electorate seems to know what's going on anyway and wanted a chance to send the best candidate up to defeat Donald Trump.
Yes, we can see the map, too, but several key Clinton wins were virtual ties, or extremely close. If it were Trump tied with Cruz say in Massachusetts and
Missouri, the headlines would be screaming and the pundits out-doing each other to speculate on what is going to happen next. Instead, Sanders is being
"disappeared" from the news. The fourth estate continues to fail in its mission to inform the public, although a very significant share of the electorate seems to know what's going on anyway and wanted a chance to send the best candidate up to defeat Donald Trump.
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Geography and demographics favors Sander's populist message. His campaign is not an anti-Clinton crusade but a critique of what issues resound with the poor, disenfranchised, middle and working classes. Hillary's strength is based on aligning herself with the Obama and Clinton's presidency's popularity! In the last democratic debate we saw what Hillary does best, pandering to the audience at hand and waffling on the issue of deportation; subsequently criticizing the president on the issue. The debate revealed the chameleon like qualities of Hilliary who will say and do anything; alter the facts; deny the facts and alter history. Hillary is dishonest, disingenuous, duplicitous, operating by a different set of rule by which a wrong can be explained and manipulated into a right by use of sophistry, obfuscation and prevarication!
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Geography and demographics favor Sander's populist message. His campaign is not an anti-Clinton crusade but a critique of what issues resound with the poor, disenfranchised, middle and working classes. Hillary's strength is based on aligning herself with the Obama and Clinton presidency's popularity! In the last democratic debate we saw what Hillary does best, pandering to the audience at hand and waffling on the issue of deportation; subsequently criticizing the president on the issue. The debate revealed the chameleon like qualities of Hilliary who will say and do anything; alter the facts; deny the facts and alter history. Hillary is dishonest, disingenuous, duplicitous, operating by a different set of rule by which a wrong can be explained and manipulated into a right by use of sophistry, obfuscation and prevarication! Despite these qualities the president made a Luke warm endorsement!!
This independent voter is prepared to vote for Sanders, but Hillary will never get my vote. I absolutely do not trust Clinton, period. Nothing will change that for me. I do however feel Sander's intentions are good and meaningful, he seems honest and stands by what he believes in. While I realize most of what he campaigns for will never make it past the obstructionism in the house and senate, I truly believe he will put every effort into doing what he says. Hillary on the other hand, flip flops, takes half baked stances where she somehow plays both sides of the fence. She misleads, and straight up lies. She will absolutely not get my vote.
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So to the public, he has remained neutral but to wealthy donors who can afford the luxury of paying over 30 grand to get the inside scoop he speaks candidly. I am disappointed. As a Bernie supporter and someone who voted for Obama twice, I am truly disappointed - not that he would provide his endorsement of Hillary. I think that was at some point expected. But that he felt it critical to do so only for the very people who have taken control of our political process and our media. It speaks volumes about just how desperately we need campaign reform and just how on that issue alone I can only support Bernie Sanders.
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And what if the FBI determines at the end of their current investigation that there is sufficient evidence to charge Madame Secretary for keeping classified documents in an unsecured location, and/or conspiracy to conceal documents from government computers, which carries a penalty of three years in jail per document, or heaven forbid, public corruption?
Will the President direct the Attorney General to ignore the evidence?
Or will he pardon Secretary Clinton, and urge voters to support her?
Will the President direct the Attorney General to ignore the evidence?
Or will he pardon Secretary Clinton, and urge voters to support her?
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The President had to deal with the political machine in Chicago. His remarks were in the presence of DNC donors, likely Clinton supporters. Maybe his remarks were kowtowing to DNC elites.
If I were to be disenfranchised this primary I would likely not vote in the general election. Trump in the White House would motivate a voters in the 2018 midterm elections and leave congress with a democratic majority, setting the scene for the impeachment of Trump. This scenario may be preferable to another President Clinton.
If I were to be disenfranchised this primary I would likely not vote in the general election. Trump in the White House would motivate a voters in the 2018 midterm elections and leave congress with a democratic majority, setting the scene for the impeachment of Trump. This scenario may be preferable to another President Clinton.
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Our politicraps have destroyed what our founding fathers tried to prevent. Our founding fathers wanted a system that was not controlled by career politicians, certain families, or certain super elite people or groups. Our founding fathers wanted a system that allowed anyone to run and to have the American citizens decide, not the career politicians, certain families, or the top five super wealthy elitists.
All of them are controlled by the top five extremely wealthy dictators and these five (Rockefeller, Rothschild, DuPont, the Bush's, can't think of the last one right now) most wealthy are destroying the world, not just America and anyone who supports the status quo of either party, are blind and sick in the head.
All of them are controlled by the top five extremely wealthy dictators and these five (Rockefeller, Rothschild, DuPont, the Bush's, can't think of the last one right now) most wealthy are destroying the world, not just America and anyone who supports the status quo of either party, are blind and sick in the head.
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Bernie Sanders is a progressive miracle, coming thus far in a presidential race i the U.S. If he, as in a peculiar dream, were to become president and really implemented his stated policies, the world would become a completely different place. We who hoped for that will soon be stark awake, and we never expected anything else.
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This act from Obama smells of fear from Clinton and the establishment. What happened to Hope? I guess 7 years of the establishment is what it took to crush Obama's Hope. Nominating two right wing Supreme Court Judges? This proves the hope is dead in him. Just like the Republicans are worried about Trump. The Democrats are a afraid of Sanders. The longer Sander stays in the race the more his message gets out and they don't want to it out. It's give Sander's the chance to win. Two of the biggest states by far are still to come and they don't what them to have a chance to vote because Sanders can still win. Plus establishment Democrats and Clinton need to start pivoting to the centre to try and win Independent and Republican voters. It happens all the time. If Clinton is truly a progressive then she should step down already and stop wasting time on this primary and let the true Progressive, Senator Sanders run in the general and win without having to move to the centre for once.
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I identify as Independent and so do 42% of voters; that's 13% more than those who identify as Democratic (29%); this according to a Gallup Poll published in January this year. In 2008, when Hillary last ran, there were more voters identifying as Democrats than Independents. The Independent cohort is on a rapid rise and the Democrats and Republicans are on a decline. Looks to me like more and more people don't think that the two major political parties are serving their needs. That seems to be reflected by the anti-establishment mood of the primary and caucus goers.
Hillary's support comes primarily from die-hard establishment Democrats and Bernie's from independents. So, in effect, Obama wants Sanders to deliver Independent voters to Hillary. Those voters are not for Bernie to deliver. If Democrats wanted the independent vote then they should have courted it but we Independents know they did the opposite.
Establishment Democratic politicians just can't seem to bring themselves to admit that they, as much as the Republicans are dependent upon the donor class, the wealthy oligarchs, to fund their campaigns and lavish lifestyle. That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do it on the backs of the middle class and poor.
As I have said many times, the Democrats going forward will rue the day they backed Hillary over Bernie. The Democratic establishment had an extraordinary opportunity this election given the field of Republican candidates. Too late now to make amends.
Hillary's support comes primarily from die-hard establishment Democrats and Bernie's from independents. So, in effect, Obama wants Sanders to deliver Independent voters to Hillary. Those voters are not for Bernie to deliver. If Democrats wanted the independent vote then they should have courted it but we Independents know they did the opposite.
Establishment Democratic politicians just can't seem to bring themselves to admit that they, as much as the Republicans are dependent upon the donor class, the wealthy oligarchs, to fund their campaigns and lavish lifestyle. That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't do it on the backs of the middle class and poor.
As I have said many times, the Democrats going forward will rue the day they backed Hillary over Bernie. The Democratic establishment had an extraordinary opportunity this election given the field of Republican candidates. Too late now to make amends.
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looking forward to either voting for bernie or staying home on election day.
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2008 Obama- Clinton will say anything, and change nothing. It's time to turn the page.
2016 Obama- Clinton will continue the work of my administration.
Change you can believe in, America...
2016 Obama- Clinton will continue the work of my administration.
Change you can believe in, America...
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Mr. Sanders's campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, says "We are just not intimidated by the numbers," (that show Mr. Sanders hopelessly losing the nomination). On what cloud does Mr. Weaver live? It's one thing to spin a positive slant for one's candidate, but it is another to deny the obvious truth and pretend black is white. Marco Rubio tried that gambit and look how far it got him. I like Bernie, and I like what he stands for, but it's time to face reality.
We are fixated on looking for the perfect candidate. The fact that both Hillary and Bernie are career politicians in an election cycle when America is tired of career politicians. I wish the DNC had 17 contenders to begin with- we had about 6... and it was trimmed to 3 then 2 in two months. I am not particularly impressed with either- At the end of the day their pie in the sky rhetoric and empty promises will amount to nothing after the election. We will again be faced with another 4 years of partisan gridlock with no notable change. So it really doesn't matter who wins or loses. The reality is America's best days have already come and gone.
There is something very dangerous behind those words by president Obama, if it is true that he ever said those things. We must be sure that those statements will not be taken lightly by other nations. If it is true that he said those things, he has lost any grounds to reach an agreement in the event that there is a serious international conflict. Who is going to sign and trust an agreement with a president who believes that authenticity is not important in politics? If what is written here of him is true, the president has ashamed the good flag of the United States and the republic, and he should be impeached by Congress for such an indignity.
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Yes, Sanders has many grand ideas, yes, he has persistence, yes we should give him credit for making us think. But these qualities do not engender a practical platform, nor do they outweigh experience on the national and international stage.
Sanders' passion also seems to exclude graciousness and flexibility, those qualities that would allow one to praise a rival's victories and navigate through a fraught political atmosphere. Obama has these qualities, the qualities of a great president. Anybody who remembers Clinton's moving 2008 concession on the floor of the Democratic Convention knows she has these qualities too. She has the the thoughtfulness of a great leader and the ability to adapt to a rapidly changing world.
Sanders' passion also seems to exclude graciousness and flexibility, those qualities that would allow one to praise a rival's victories and navigate through a fraught political atmosphere. Obama has these qualities, the qualities of a great president. Anybody who remembers Clinton's moving 2008 concession on the floor of the Democratic Convention knows she has these qualities too. She has the the thoughtfulness of a great leader and the ability to adapt to a rapidly changing world.
The President has made an exceptionally regrettable decision. He has forgotten who were the main people that fought for him to enter the White House. It is unjust to ignore million who support the most decent man in the modern history of this country: Senator Sanders.
Effectively, by his doing the President is in now bed with kingmakers! The difference between the former President and the former Secretary is akin to Coke and Pepsi in foreign policy! This mean the President is also supporting a certified warmonger!
The President has forgotten we, not him, must select the next President. He is voting for a dynasty, neglecting this country is no longer governed by a royal family.
Effectively, by his doing the President is in now bed with kingmakers! The difference between the former President and the former Secretary is akin to Coke and Pepsi in foreign policy! This mean the President is also supporting a certified warmonger!
The President has forgotten we, not him, must select the next President. He is voting for a dynasty, neglecting this country is no longer governed by a royal family.
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Mr Sanders has every right to stay in the race until the very end, but the possibility of a Trump nomination changes the whole game.
Should Mr Sanders stay in the race, it will amount to more scolding, negative ads, and divisive rhetoric against one another, effectively weakening that winner who then must face a forceful, maniacal adversary who endeavors to shred and humiliate his opponents.
However, the Democratic primary reached a critical point after Tuesday's sweep by Ms. Clinton.
The time is near to clear the way and give our full support to the strongest candidate. If it were Mr. Sanders in the lead in an identical scenario, then Mr Sanders should be the nominee. But the painful truth that we cannot deny is that he is too far behind in delegates.
I admire what Mr Sanders has done, his impact is immeasurable. He spoke the truth. I thank him for his great service to our democracy and to our country.
Should Mr Sanders stay in the race, it will amount to more scolding, negative ads, and divisive rhetoric against one another, effectively weakening that winner who then must face a forceful, maniacal adversary who endeavors to shred and humiliate his opponents.
However, the Democratic primary reached a critical point after Tuesday's sweep by Ms. Clinton.
The time is near to clear the way and give our full support to the strongest candidate. If it were Mr. Sanders in the lead in an identical scenario, then Mr Sanders should be the nominee. But the painful truth that we cannot deny is that he is too far behind in delegates.
I admire what Mr Sanders has done, his impact is immeasurable. He spoke the truth. I thank him for his great service to our democracy and to our country.
A water engineer and health expert recently posted on the web that the time has come to support Hillary Clinton. She mentioned in passing that this was greeted by some important 'voices' with approval. It is none of my business to ask who these are, and with a mind of my own, I have been supporting her candidacy to be the next President and it is taking some of the fighting Irish to do this.
A friend in the Humanitarian community, originating from the Islands, with a hard-working family is also supporting Hillary Clinton. Both of us now retired, she feels there is a lot of work to be done. I reminded her of her assignments to the Middle East in 2002, her flight from war zones.
Clinton inspires this American with hope. Watching her on the political track and in the arena, she has made a true believer out of me, and I admire her courage and fortitude in the face of conflict and adversity.
A friend in the Humanitarian community, originating from the Islands, with a hard-working family is also supporting Hillary Clinton. Both of us now retired, she feels there is a lot of work to be done. I reminded her of her assignments to the Middle East in 2002, her flight from war zones.
Clinton inspires this American with hope. Watching her on the political track and in the arena, she has made a true believer out of me, and I admire her courage and fortitude in the face of conflict and adversity.
"Obama went on to lavish praise on Mrs. Clinton, describing her as smart, tough and experienced…."
When evaluating Clinton, one must be careful not to confuse cold-blooded w/ dispassionate, dispassionate w/ sane, wonky w/ competent, wonky w/ wise, wonky w/ brilliant, & perhaps most important, corruption w/ success & failure w/ experience.
The 2 front-runners: 2 corrupt authoritarians, 2 rageful pathological liars, 2 hucksters, one boorish w/ "small hands," the other boring w/ bloody hands. Either will make a dangerous president, but the latter has demonstrated her evil knows no bounds.
Note the difference: the Rs try to stop their monster as Ds rig both the process and justice to run theirs.
Professions tend to be self-selected, intellectually homogeneous subgroups of Homo sapiens. Great intellects, especially these days, do not generally gravitate towards careers in the media or politics. Mediocre, power-obsessed types with poor self-images do.
Thus, Clinton mediocrity goes undetected primarily because of media mediocrity. ("Mediocrity" and "media" don't come from the same Latin root, medius for no reason.)
Insofar as the Clintons are concerned, the media confuse form with substance, smoothness with coherence, data-spewing with ratiocination, pre-programmed recitation with realtime analysis, an idiosyncratic degeneracy with creativity.
When evaluating Clinton, one must be careful not to confuse cold-blooded w/ dispassionate, dispassionate w/ sane, wonky w/ competent, wonky w/ wise, wonky w/ brilliant, & perhaps most important, corruption w/ success & failure w/ experience.
The 2 front-runners: 2 corrupt authoritarians, 2 rageful pathological liars, 2 hucksters, one boorish w/ "small hands," the other boring w/ bloody hands. Either will make a dangerous president, but the latter has demonstrated her evil knows no bounds.
Note the difference: the Rs try to stop their monster as Ds rig both the process and justice to run theirs.
Professions tend to be self-selected, intellectually homogeneous subgroups of Homo sapiens. Great intellects, especially these days, do not generally gravitate towards careers in the media or politics. Mediocre, power-obsessed types with poor self-images do.
Thus, Clinton mediocrity goes undetected primarily because of media mediocrity. ("Mediocrity" and "media" don't come from the same Latin root, medius for no reason.)
Insofar as the Clintons are concerned, the media confuse form with substance, smoothness with coherence, data-spewing with ratiocination, pre-programmed recitation with realtime analysis, an idiosyncratic degeneracy with creativity.
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Voters biggest problem with Clinton is not her lack of authenticity or her ability to generate excitement, it is that she has taken nearly a million dollars from super PACS and $675,000 from Goldman Sachs.
Bernie's critics often complain that he is a one issue candidate. That is because the corrupting influence of money in politics is *the* single most important issue in America right now. (Incidentally, a big reason for Trump's popularity on the right is that he too refuses super PAC cash. But I digress...)
Don't believe this "Bernie-splaining" millennial? Believe the Princeton University Study which found that average voters have a near nonexistent influence on public policies, while economic elites and business interests impact it substantially. (http://bit.ly/257IJGK)
While Bernie's critics are rightly concerned over a plethora of issues beyond wealth inequality, nothing will get fixed until Citizens United is overturned. Climate change, gun control, criminal justice reform... Whatever issue, however important, is not going to be addressed in any meaningful way until corporations and special interests can no longer buy elections. Right now it's pay to play.
The great irony here is that Obama made these statements to the same donors that are at the root of the problem.
Wouldn't it be great if the NYT reported honestly on the real reasons behind Bernie's popularity instead of making ridiculous analogies with Trump and writing off his supporters as "Bernie-Splainers".
Bernie's critics often complain that he is a one issue candidate. That is because the corrupting influence of money in politics is *the* single most important issue in America right now. (Incidentally, a big reason for Trump's popularity on the right is that he too refuses super PAC cash. But I digress...)
Don't believe this "Bernie-splaining" millennial? Believe the Princeton University Study which found that average voters have a near nonexistent influence on public policies, while economic elites and business interests impact it substantially. (http://bit.ly/257IJGK)
While Bernie's critics are rightly concerned over a plethora of issues beyond wealth inequality, nothing will get fixed until Citizens United is overturned. Climate change, gun control, criminal justice reform... Whatever issue, however important, is not going to be addressed in any meaningful way until corporations and special interests can no longer buy elections. Right now it's pay to play.
The great irony here is that Obama made these statements to the same donors that are at the root of the problem.
Wouldn't it be great if the NYT reported honestly on the real reasons behind Bernie's popularity instead of making ridiculous analogies with Trump and writing off his supporters as "Bernie-Splainers".
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I'm a big Sanders fan. Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder how many of the Most Recommended comments got that way courtesy of Republican trolls.
Hopefully, readers do not take the number of Most Recommended seriously, or even the number of comments supportive or opposing this or that candidate, policy, or analysis. These comments are greatly subject to trolls, both individual and organized, in campaigns to weaken a potential general election opponent by supporting that opponent's primary foes.
For example, a Clinton troll might comment backing Trump, figuring he might be an easier general election opponent and, "with luck", if not nominated might thus encourage Trump Republicans to stay home for the general election. Similarly, a Republican troll might back Sanders as a way to weaken Clinton, should she be, as is likely, the Democratic nominee.
Hopefully, readers do not take the number of Most Recommended seriously, or even the number of comments supportive or opposing this or that candidate, policy, or analysis. These comments are greatly subject to trolls, both individual and organized, in campaigns to weaken a potential general election opponent by supporting that opponent's primary foes.
For example, a Clinton troll might comment backing Trump, figuring he might be an easier general election opponent and, "with luck", if not nominated might thus encourage Trump Republicans to stay home for the general election. Similarly, a Republican troll might back Sanders as a way to weaken Clinton, should she be, as is likely, the Democratic nominee.
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President Obama has reason to be concerned: the longer Bernie Sanders continues to disparage Hillary Clinton, the harder it will be for her to prevail in November. And if Trump somehow gets elected president, many of Obama's signature achievements, including the Affordable Care Act, will be at risk. Obama also is correct that authenticity is a poor substitute for experience, mental toughness, and political know-how. Indeed, Donald Trump's popularity seems to be based largely on his authenticity, regardless of how reckless and crass he is. If Sanders wants to remain in the race, he should stop suggesting that Clinton is a corrupt politician who cares more about Wall Street than the middle class. Not only because it is not true, but because it feeds into Trump's ridiculous pitch that he is best qualified stand up for the little guy.
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I'm very disappointed in President Obama. Saying those remarks "in private", while fully aware that they'd be published, adds up to being both wrong and weak. I have great respect for the president, which was built up over the past seven years. I voted against him in 2008, watched him do a strong job for four years, and then voted for him in 2012. I've been proud to be represented by his intelligent, metered approach and his willingness to do what's necessary to protect and further the interests of our country. But the disingenuous comparison of Sanders's authenticity to the folksy, fake, highly political "authenticity" of Bush is a disturbing sign of a man preparing to leave the presidency in pursuit of power, connections and lucre, much as the Clintons did.
I hope the president walks his statements back. There are many people, young and old, becoming engaged politically this season. Some for the first time, and others who are feeling a sense of empowerment that had been missing for quite a while.
Sanders is conducting a generally positive campaign, standing on issues. He has not been tearing Clinton down. Most importantly, he's demonstrating how a candidate can run without wealthy donors. If Sanders decides to step aside, I believe we can trust him to encourage his supporters to back the Democratic nominee. Meanwhile, let the country see how a decent and truly authentic candidate runs a campaign.
I hope the president walks his statements back. There are many people, young and old, becoming engaged politically this season. Some for the first time, and others who are feeling a sense of empowerment that had been missing for quite a while.
Sanders is conducting a generally positive campaign, standing on issues. He has not been tearing Clinton down. Most importantly, he's demonstrating how a candidate can run without wealthy donors. If Sanders decides to step aside, I believe we can trust him to encourage his supporters to back the Democratic nominee. Meanwhile, let the country see how a decent and truly authentic candidate runs a campaign.
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This election year pits a true counter establishment candidate against a career opportunist who will say and do anything, take up a political position to further her goals, change on political issues as often as the political trade winds blows and put on any political face to satisfy her 30 year political obsession with the presidency. She gives a sense of competency, coupled with an heir of dishonesty and entitlement. I refuse to be a part of this election in which the premise is that Sanders is unelectable and Hillary is the only candidate to defeat Trump! Sanders should continue with his campaign and his message that change can only occur when corporate monies is taken out of the political arena. The election of Hillary will be a continuation of gridlock and factionalism as Hillary is reviled more so than President Obama and despised by the Republicans Not a ringing endorsement from the President who is saying in essence she is the the least of all evils. I' ll sit this one out!
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These remarks were made to members of the "donor class." Why would donors support a campaign unless they expect something in return, even if it is only "access." That's why Bernie, who does not depend upon "donors" is the only candidate who will actually work to improve the economic conditions of the 99%. Sure, Hillary has "moved to the left" under pressure from Bernie supporters, even grudgingly adopting some of his proposals. But if she gets the nomination and has nothing more to fear from Bernie supporters, how hard will she work to (for example) eliminate the carried-interest tax loophole? Impose a tax on stock trades to fund aid to education? Fifteen dollar minimum wage? She will give lip service to those issues. I will support a candidate who says he (or she as it might be) will fight for the 99%, rather than one who says so will I, if that's what it takes to get your vote.
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No American knows more deeply the art of crushing non-united opposition than do our last quarter-century's worth of politicians-in-chief. And Barack Obama never says anything of this sort until the truth of the matter has been well-established.
If I believed the Democratic Party should NOT unite with alacrity behind a former Secretary of State, I would hate to learn that the President had called for such unity. But these truths were self-evident regardless of Michigan or Vermont or other border states: That no time would be too soon to combine forces, throughout the "blue" nation, against the disease that festers on the "red" side.
Some things require collaboration for the good of the species. Sequencing the human genome. Solving the puzzle of HIV/AIDS. Eradicating polio. Combatting the deadly effects of climate change. Winning the last Congressionally-declared War (in Europe). And leading this confused nation into light.
If anyone chooses to block the President's initiative in this matter, I hope for their sakes that there is no afterlife in which they could suffer the same punishment that they will have inflicted on well-meaning citizens who outnumber them. "We must hang together," Benjamin Franklin supposedly said, "or we shall surely hang separately."
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No American knows more deeply the art of crushing non-united opposition than do our last quarter-century's worth of politicians-in-chief. And Barack Obama never says anything of this sort until the truth of the matter has been well-established.
If I believed the Democratic Party should NOT unite with alacrity behind a former Secretary of State, I would hate to learn that the President had called for such unity. But these truths were self-evident regardless of Michigan or Vermont or other border states: That no time would be too soon to combine forces, throughout the "blue" nation, against the disease that festers on the "red" side.
Some things require collaboration for the good of the species. Sequencing the human genome. Solving the puzzle of HIV/AIDS. Eradicating polio. Combatting the deadly effects of climate change. Winning the last Congressionally-declared War (in Europe). And leading this confused nation into light.
If anyone chooses to block the President's initiative in this matter, I hope for their sakes that there is no afterlife in which they could suffer the same punishment that they will have inflicted on well-meaning citizens who outnumber them. "We must hang together," Benjamin Franklin supposedly said, "or we shall surely hang separately."
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I am a Sanders supporter. Sanders is the only candidate willing to challenge our current system of legalized bribery that is campaign finance. Without substantive reform including public financing of campaigns and an end to massive "donations," the sickness and corruption that pervades our political system can only continue.
I am encouraging my fellow Sanders supporters to use our remaining political leverage before it evaporates completely: Let us pledge to only vote for Clinton for President if Sanders is both her Vice-President, and is guaranteed a meaningful role in her administration. --In my case, for what it's worth, that's not an idle threat. I will not be able to bring myself to vote for Clinton otherwise. Without Sanders there to help keep her honest, I have no faith she'll act as President as other than a neocon, Wall Street Republican.
I am encouraging my fellow Sanders supporters to use our remaining political leverage before it evaporates completely: Let us pledge to only vote for Clinton for President if Sanders is both her Vice-President, and is guaranteed a meaningful role in her administration. --In my case, for what it's worth, that's not an idle threat. I will not be able to bring myself to vote for Clinton otherwise. Without Sanders there to help keep her honest, I have no faith she'll act as President as other than a neocon, Wall Street Republican.
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Inherently undemocratic - but beyond that, indicates a profound disconnect from the tenor of the people. Obama said this right after Sanders' win in MI, indicating an intransigence that seeks to further ones agenda regardless of the will of the people. Apart from all of this, however, is the fact that in spite of the media malpractice to which the Sanders campaign has been subjected, it has ignited a profoundly powerful movement in this country, and he has polled consistently higher in a race against Trump, for the very reason that business as usual is no longer acceptable to a huge portion of the population. I fear that the DNC and now the President, himself, have - in their ignorance and stubbornness, hobbled their chances to win in November. The establishment Democrats have no idea how disliked Clinton is among huge numbers of voters - for whatever reason, so many people I've spoken to have said, "Anyone but Hillary Clinton." She may be smart in the obvious ways, but she was not smart enough to foresee the consequences of her efforts regarding Iraq, Honduras, Lybia or Syria - nor was she smart enough to perceive what the American public has been experiencing for the last decade or more, and what to do about it.
Obama screwed up on this, big time, and my regard for him is considerably diminished. He's cool, he's charming and beautiful and talks a great game, but he's a corporatist sell out in more ways than most realize.
Obama screwed up on this, big time, and my regard for him is considerably diminished. He's cool, he's charming and beautiful and talks a great game, but he's a corporatist sell out in more ways than most realize.
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The 'intelligentsia' of any country are far outnumbered by the 'proletariat'.. This is a simple fact of life as we know it - and have it. Thus we get the Right Wing, representing the wealthier and more successful people, and the 'Left Wing', representing workers and the lower echelons of a society. "Democracy" could mean that the majority must rule - even if unqualified to do so. Hence unfairness creeps in, and a country may be ruled disastrously. As in England, say, where successive Left Wing governments introduced chaos, bankruptcy and the lowest moral values ever know before. Until a seriously repulsed mass of people rebelled and threw them out. Study the history of Left Wing ruled countries world-wide and a picture will emerge of wastage, missed opportunities and a lowering of all standards. I defy anybody to prove otherwise. With his faults - magnified out of all proportion by the media - I would have Trump as President in a heartbeat. A superb businessman, intelligent, and with an all-0encompassing birds-eye view of ALL sections of his country, and their needs.
When it comes down to it, Bernie is not authentic. He is a liar because he knows he cannot accomplish what he promises. I am going to make another donation to Hillary -- my third this week. If Bernie wins the nomination, I will not vote for him.
Your decision to not vote for Bernie if he is the democratic candidate is a vote in all likelihood for Donald Trump. Is that REALLY what you want?
After being a passenger on the ship for decades, Bernie now wishes to be captain. How long can such a farce persist?
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After being the Captain's wife, a passenger for a few years, and a lookout who led the ship into several icebergs, Clinton wants to be Captain. And this is less of a farce....how, exactly?
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The median wage in the US is $ 52 000.
Obama privately meets with people that can shell out $33,400 for single ticket.
Nor did he did prosecute a single individual responsible the Great Recession .
Why's , exactly should I vote democratic ?
At least the Republicans are open about fighting for the interest of the rich.
Perhaps that is what Obama meant about Hillary lacking authenticity and Bush having it.
Obama privately meets with people that can shell out $33,400 for single ticket.
Nor did he did prosecute a single individual responsible the Great Recession .
Why's , exactly should I vote democratic ?
At least the Republicans are open about fighting for the interest of the rich.
Perhaps that is what Obama meant about Hillary lacking authenticity and Bush having it.
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Hillary is a warmonger, she's enthusiastically supported every war and military action from the start, all of them ending in disasters. Only the ISIS terrorists love Hillary, they are the only ones gaining.
Hillary is now beating the drums of war against Iran. How many more multi-trillion dollar wars will it take before these warmongers learn a simple lesson? I will not, I will never, vote for Hillary Clinton or any one of the warmongering politicians who have never been in a war and do not understand what a war is like. Never.
Hillary is now beating the drums of war against Iran. How many more multi-trillion dollar wars will it take before these warmongers learn a simple lesson? I will not, I will never, vote for Hillary Clinton or any one of the warmongering politicians who have never been in a war and do not understand what a war is like. Never.
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CNN is reporting tonight that the White House is denying this story. Maybe you need to update this evolving story to make it more of the moment?
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Very disappointed in Pres. Obama. There is no way I will EVER support Hillary Clinton. We need REAL change in this country, and Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate with the VISION and political will to fight for it. I know he's on my side. I can trust him.
I don't trust Hillary Clinton. She's a liar. She's a cheat. She represents everything that's wrong with politics today. And there is no way on God's green earth I will cast my vote for her. I will write in Bernie Sanders name, if it comes to that.
I am disgusted with the President's remarks.
I don't trust Hillary Clinton. She's a liar. She's a cheat. She represents everything that's wrong with politics today. And there is no way on God's green earth I will cast my vote for her. I will write in Bernie Sanders name, if it comes to that.
I am disgusted with the President's remarks.
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Here's a thought experiment. How would Sanders supporters feel if Hillary won the nomination and picked Elizabeth Warren as her VP? Would you still all be so opposed to her presidency?
Elizabeth Warren would never run with Hillary. Shoot, she's the only Democratic Senator who hasn't even endorsed Hillary. Haven't you seen Elizabeth Warren explain how Hillary did an about face on a bankruptcy bill due to her donors?
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Yes - As a lifelong Democrat and WAC veteran of the Vietnam War, I would still oppose her presidency. Moreover, I doubt Elizabeth Warren would accept Clinton's invitation to be VP.
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New York and Massachusetts in the the two top spots? Not likely. Plus Warren would do better running for president in four years and being active and a leading voice in the senate now!
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"Trump is despicable, HRC is deplorable. What to do?"
Folks, grow up and quit whining. This is not a popularity contest. This is about regaining control of the Supreme Court, gun control, corporate perversion of election funding, women's rights, combating global warming, and a host of other fundamental, critical issues. You know what? I really don't care whether you like HRC or not. I don't love her, but I'm not asking her to the prom. All this hand wringing disgusts me. Let the Republicans win this election and you get exactly what you deserve.
Folks, grow up and quit whining. This is not a popularity contest. This is about regaining control of the Supreme Court, gun control, corporate perversion of election funding, women's rights, combating global warming, and a host of other fundamental, critical issues. You know what? I really don't care whether you like HRC or not. I don't love her, but I'm not asking her to the prom. All this hand wringing disgusts me. Let the Republicans win this election and you get exactly what you deserve.
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Clinton cannot defeat Trump. Mr Sanders can.
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What? Obama was with a group of donors and he told them the party must come together to back HRC? What donors was he with that didn't already back HRC? Was he hanging around a bunch of ex-hippies, working class retirees, millennials with student debt? I hardly think so. What donors that Obama was with have to be persuaded to support HRC? What donors would he ever be with that would would support Bernie? This sounds ridiculous. Bernie's donors are seniors on a fixed income and millennials eking out a few bucks after they pay their student loans. Bernie's donors are thrilled if they come up with $3.00 once a month
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That's not true. I'm a 41 year old business professional and I support Bernie Sanders 100%.
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Shame on you, BHO. and hang in there, Bernie!
Sanders is raising critical issues which need to be addressed in any DNC platform, whether Bernie is able to win the nomination, or not.
A loss to Trump is unlikely; even his supporters can recognize that he's psychologically unsuited to governance.
Sanders is raising critical issues which need to be addressed in any DNC platform, whether Bernie is able to win the nomination, or not.
A loss to Trump is unlikely; even his supporters can recognize that he's psychologically unsuited to governance.
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The threats from Sanders supporters to vote for a GOP candidate over HRC, if she is the nominee, makes me question the values that Sanders supporters actually stand for.
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You mean that we want our elected officials to actually represent us, not their corporate backers? Is so, supporting Hillary would just be a slap at those values.
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These aren't threats; these are simply facts. Like it or not, there are a good number of people who cannot, in good conscience, vote for Hillary. It has EVERYTHING to do with their values and their desire to support a candidate with ethics and integrity who has not sold out for money. So if it makes you question their values, it's because you don't actually understand their values.
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You can question my values all you wish. But perhaps you should question your own first. Why do you support a woman who not only voted for the Iraqi War but didn't learn from it? She didn't went on, as secretary of state, to authorize the overthrow of Ghaddafi in Libya and supported the coup in Hondurus, which have had disastrous consequences. Why do you support who was the mastermind of the Keystone pipeline and won of its biggest supporters until she decided it was politically expedient not to be? Why support someone whose biggest backers are banks, Wall Street, the insurance companies and the fossil fuel companies and who also refuses to disclose what she has said at those speeches, where she gets paid 225,000? If none of that bothers you, fine. But you should do so without trying to smear those of us who refuse to vote for Clinton just because our values are higher than yours.
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We do need to come together, but only behind the only candidate that can actually inspire the huge voter turnout needed to beat Trump and elect progressive reformers up and down the ticket nationwide. That candidate is Bernie Sanders. Clinton does NOT appeal to non-Democrats.
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Thanks SCOLDUS, noted. Affordable health care, unending tuition spiral with schemes for deadbeats, zombie economy. We're living the dream, his way.
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President Obama has let it be known his allegiance lies with Hillary. In '08 they battled for the nomination. Hillary was the front runner and presumed nominee. But Barack had other ideas. He was a new face, had charisma, and a superb organization which matched the Clinton's formidable machine.
Barack was behind in Super Delegates, but the margin was a mere 100, unlike the 400 Sanders is down. Barack had the backing of major Democratic leaders like Ted Kennedy. Sanders remained an Independent. When Barack started winning pledged delegates he started winning more Supers. The contest went down to the wire. Hillary, knowing her time was nigh, conceded to Barack. She endorsed Barack and released her delegates to him. I was one of those Hillary backers who switched to Barack. Hillary showed a lot of class and aplomb. She made quite an impression on the Democratic hierarchy, She was gracious in defeat.
This lead Barack to nominate her as Secretary of State, one of the most prestigious Cabinet positions. She became the President's chief foreign policy adviser. This was a job John Kerry coveted and thought was his. He had to wait his turn too.
Now it's Hillary's turn. She will be a third Obama term, and if Republicans don't wise up and stop obstructing the President's nomination to the Supreme Court, in 2017 they will have to deal with Hillary. If that doesn't put the fear of God into them...? They'll still remain the Stupid Party
DD
Manhattan
Barack was behind in Super Delegates, but the margin was a mere 100, unlike the 400 Sanders is down. Barack had the backing of major Democratic leaders like Ted Kennedy. Sanders remained an Independent. When Barack started winning pledged delegates he started winning more Supers. The contest went down to the wire. Hillary, knowing her time was nigh, conceded to Barack. She endorsed Barack and released her delegates to him. I was one of those Hillary backers who switched to Barack. Hillary showed a lot of class and aplomb. She made quite an impression on the Democratic hierarchy, She was gracious in defeat.
This lead Barack to nominate her as Secretary of State, one of the most prestigious Cabinet positions. She became the President's chief foreign policy adviser. This was a job John Kerry coveted and thought was his. He had to wait his turn too.
Now it's Hillary's turn. She will be a third Obama term, and if Republicans don't wise up and stop obstructing the President's nomination to the Supreme Court, in 2017 they will have to deal with Hillary. If that doesn't put the fear of God into them...? They'll still remain the Stupid Party
DD
Manhattan
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This article needs to be updated or taken down its for 'click bait' since NYT endorsed Clinton & yes I know NOTHING is allowed here unless moderated
At approximately 2:00pm Bloomberg Politics tweeted a statement from Josh Earnest re: this NYT article read here: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-...
At approximately 2:00pm Bloomberg Politics tweeted a statement from Josh Earnest re: this NYT article read here: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-03-17/obama-didn-t-back-...
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We already knew that he is pro-Hillary since he selected her as his SOS.
Your article and your reporting of his words are disingenuously and weirdly equivocal.
Your article and your reporting of his words are disingenuously and weirdly equivocal.
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I'm seeing a lot of comments to the effect of "Bernie is great, but he's not electable and doesn't have experience". There's a few problems with that, and I'm going to lay them out for you.
1) Not electable: he consistently runs better than Clinton in general election matchups, include those at both the state and national level. One need only check realclearpolitics.com to find that.
2) Not experienced: so time as an executive, plus decades in Congress with PLENTY to show for it (check out the NYTimes' own article about his back-door deals), who has worked on multiple bipartisan committees in Congress is now not experienced? Moving on....
3) Hillary IS experienced: Okay, this has multiple parts:
A) She was First Lady. Whoop-de-doo. Being married to Laurence Olivier doesn't make you an extraordinary actor by default.
B) She was Senator....in NY. For 8 years. Whoa! And those of you trumpeting that Sanders has no experience, what, precisely, does she have to show for that time? Oh, besides voting for the WAR IN IRAQ?
C) She was the Secretary of State....who presided over the downfalls of Syria, Lybia, Egypt.... Since when was utterly failing at your job still considered positive "experience"?
Please, people. Let's stop deluding ourselves.
1) Not electable: he consistently runs better than Clinton in general election matchups, include those at both the state and national level. One need only check realclearpolitics.com to find that.
2) Not experienced: so time as an executive, plus decades in Congress with PLENTY to show for it (check out the NYTimes' own article about his back-door deals), who has worked on multiple bipartisan committees in Congress is now not experienced? Moving on....
3) Hillary IS experienced: Okay, this has multiple parts:
A) She was First Lady. Whoop-de-doo. Being married to Laurence Olivier doesn't make you an extraordinary actor by default.
B) She was Senator....in NY. For 8 years. Whoa! And those of you trumpeting that Sanders has no experience, what, precisely, does she have to show for that time? Oh, besides voting for the WAR IN IRAQ?
C) She was the Secretary of State....who presided over the downfalls of Syria, Lybia, Egypt.... Since when was utterly failing at your job still considered positive "experience"?
Please, people. Let's stop deluding ourselves.
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We are in it to win it! Senator Sanders has begun a political revolution and its up to us to stop holding back and make this great, honest and unsullied man our next leader!
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Even after CNN reported President Obama denied implying “uniting behind Mrs. Clinton” the entire mainstream media are still running with it, even CNN. Regardless of any backtracking of this story by the media, a divisive tone has been achieved.
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All this is saying is that Obama can add and has a primary calendar.
Any rational person with both would have to admit that Hillary has lead that will be nearly impossible to overcome in the voting booth.
And to all you phonies on this board who are pretending to support Bernie, but somehow hate Obama and Hillary: your colors ( Red ) are showing ...
Any rational person with both would have to admit that Hillary has lead that will be nearly impossible to overcome in the voting booth.
And to all you phonies on this board who are pretending to support Bernie, but somehow hate Obama and Hillary: your colors ( Red ) are showing ...
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Seriously?
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If memory serves, Obama's nomination for his 1st term was a big surprise to many. This is an area Obama should stay out of until all the cards are played out- showing respect for Sanders- just the way Democrats in the White House did for him! Shame on our President. Having said that, I don't trust anything that comes out of the NYT, since they have NOT done anything during the campaign but throw up Pro-Hillary articles one after another.
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I'm sharing Mary D's link. Breaking news. Now comment on THIS:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
Here's the text below the video:
White House Says Obama Did Not Endorse Clinton at Fundraiser Facebook Twitter Google Plus Embed
White House Says Obama Did Not Endorse Clinton at Fundraiser 1:30
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest on Thursday pushed back on a New York Times report that said President Barack Obama privately told Democratic donors the party should begin to coalesce behind Hillary Clinton.
Earnest told reporters that Obama "did not indicate or specify a preference in the race."
"As Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic party to come together behind our nominee," he said.
The New York Times reported Thursday that Obama told donors Bernie Sanders' campaign is nearing its end and Democrats should begin preparing for Clinton's general election run. Clinton needs just 35 percent of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination, according to an NBC News count, after sweeping five Democratic primaries on Tuesday.
Obama has remained neutral in the Democratic primary battle. He voted absentee in the Illinois primary but has not said who he supported.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne...
Here's the text below the video:
White House Says Obama Did Not Endorse Clinton at Fundraiser Facebook Twitter Google Plus Embed
White House Says Obama Did Not Endorse Clinton at Fundraiser 1:30
White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest on Thursday pushed back on a New York Times report that said President Barack Obama privately told Democratic donors the party should begin to coalesce behind Hillary Clinton.
Earnest told reporters that Obama "did not indicate or specify a preference in the race."
"As Democrats move through this competitive primary process, we need to be mindful of the fact that our success in November in electing a Democratic president will depend on the commitment and ability of the Democratic party to come together behind our nominee," he said.
The New York Times reported Thursday that Obama told donors Bernie Sanders' campaign is nearing its end and Democrats should begin preparing for Clinton's general election run. Clinton needs just 35 percent of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination, according to an NBC News count, after sweeping five Democratic primaries on Tuesday.
Obama has remained neutral in the Democratic primary battle. He voted absentee in the Illinois primary but has not said who he supported.
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I like Bernie, but I'm voting for HIllary. Why are people so content on demonizing a woman who has dedicated her entire life to public service? Okay, so she's not "likable" and you may not want to grab a drink with her. Who cares? She's smart, resourceful, has her heart in the right place, and gets things done. She will make an excellent president. And she's not having a drink with you anyway. There is nothing wrong with being a pragmatist. I'd rather her honesty about what she can get done, than some pie in the sky promise of Medicaid for all and free college. It will never happen so long as we have Red states in congress. If it sounds too good to be true, it generally is.
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Heart in the right place? Do you not recall the Clintons stealing a quarter of a million dollars with of furniture and decor from the White House when Bill left office? Do you not recall how she actively engaged in character assassination of all those women Bill slept with? Do you not recall how she told diplomats to steal personal information of other officials at the UN and other international groups? These are only a few of the many issues associated with her character. I will NEVER vote for this woman.
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Has her heart in the right place? She let Monica Lewinsky and other women be skewered and smeared by the press when she knew the women were telling the truth and that Bill had, in fact and of course, done exactly what he was accused of. Where's the heart in that? Not to mention a lack of solidarity among women.
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And my disappointment in Pres. Obama continues. I've voted for him twice, because I was sure he would fight for liberal issues. Instead he has tried to appease the GOP. Now he takes sides in a primary, right when the heart of Bernie country is upon us. And how hypocritical, considering this is JUST how he got elected! But we already knew that he, too, takes big money from Wall St and super PACs, didn't we? I guess I shouldn't be so surprised. Still, shame on you, Barrack! Shame!
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Thank you President Obama for calling for Democrats to unite around Hillary. You know how it was in '08. It took Hillary some doing to concede and then endorse you Barack.
It's going to take some time for all those young newbie enthusiastic Sanders supporters to take a deep breath and read the writing on the wall. They need to be let down slowly and gently. They are a fragile lot.
Give them some time Mister President. They'll eventually see the light as it gets ever brighter over the next couple months.
DD
Manhattan
It's going to take some time for all those young newbie enthusiastic Sanders supporters to take a deep breath and read the writing on the wall. They need to be let down slowly and gently. They are a fragile lot.
Give them some time Mister President. They'll eventually see the light as it gets ever brighter over the next couple months.
DD
Manhattan
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You do not unite the party by comparing Sanders to Bush and Trump. You will unite the party if Hillary sincerely absorbs some of Sanders' message and distance herself from her past neoconservative Third Way Democrat ways.
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This is nothing more than an pro-corporate politician (Obama) wanting the power to remain with another corporatist (Clinton).
Bernie Sanders has received more than 5 million individual contributions. He has a people-powered campaign because we're sick and tired of establishment politics and establishment economics.
My top issue: PROTECTING THE PLANET. Clinton supports fracking, the TPP (bad for the environment) despite her campaign talk, and an all-of-above-approach to energy like Obama. We can't afford eight more years of the same.
Vote Bernie so that we leave a healthy planet for future generations.
Bernie Sanders has received more than 5 million individual contributions. He has a people-powered campaign because we're sick and tired of establishment politics and establishment economics.
My top issue: PROTECTING THE PLANET. Clinton supports fracking, the TPP (bad for the environment) despite her campaign talk, and an all-of-above-approach to energy like Obama. We can't afford eight more years of the same.
Vote Bernie so that we leave a healthy planet for future generations.
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A report in the Guardian today indicates the Times report is not true, and in fact Mr. Obama made no such statement.
Apparently the Times has its latest directive from the Clinton camp, and is continuing its un-American effort to rig the American Presidential election, by manipulating the perception of the electorate, this latest effort using the perceived likability of Obama to influence the electorate.
See excerpt and link -
"The White House on Thursday said Obama did not indicate which candidate he preferred in his remarks to the donors."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/18/bernie-sanders-absurd-dro...
Apparently the Times has its latest directive from the Clinton camp, and is continuing its un-American effort to rig the American Presidential election, by manipulating the perception of the electorate, this latest effort using the perceived likability of Obama to influence the electorate.
See excerpt and link -
"The White House on Thursday said Obama did not indicate which candidate he preferred in his remarks to the donors."
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/18/bernie-sanders-absurd-dro...
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Well I know it does not mean much to many, if any Americans, but as a Canadian, an outsider, I really do like Bernie Sanders. And by all accounts Bernie would be bad for Canadian trade and jobs in my own country, so in spite of that I still like him more than Ms. Clinton, who really isn't such a bad person, but she is tied to her husband, and he is a man I would never trust.
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I like Hillary the way I liked Gore: she's not the greatest public speaker and neither was he; her opponents have been sliming and smearing her for many years and they're still dismissive of him.
Bush II was "authentic" and his hand-picked Supremes gave us Citizens United.
Sanders, and his supporters, seem utterly delusional, and I am tired of hearing their complaints.
Bush II was "authentic" and his hand-picked Supremes gave us Citizens United.
Sanders, and his supporters, seem utterly delusional, and I am tired of hearing their complaints.
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HRC will be anointed queen. almost makes you wanna vote for Donald Trump...
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Of all people, President Obama should not be needling in this election. He was given the time to campaign against Hillary, so should Bernie, whatever the outcome. This is sad actually, how quickly people forget their past.
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I am a progressive, an HRC supporter, AND a Bernie supporter. What I don't like are the vicious attacks, and no, I don't see very many, or any really, from the Clinton camp. I see them all going the other way. There is no way that is good for us all, for our progressive agenda. So, Bernie, send a strong message to your folks to stop. Stay in the race by all means, but not by ANY means.
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There are no more nasty attacks than those that will come out of the Clinton Camp.
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It is dishonest of the NYT to not retract this article. The White House insists that the President remains neutral. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/white-house-obama-still-ne.... And last Monday the NYT revised an article on Sanders' legislative abilities to neutralize them and now this! I am getting very close to canceling my subscription.
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So New York Times, what do you have to say about the White House press secretary's denial of your narrative?? They maintain that Obama is still neutral.
Since when. Did you start reporting hearsay and rumors? Was it since you decided to become a political advocacy agency?
I'm so done with your paper, you've lost my respect and admiration. Shame on you.
Since when. Did you start reporting hearsay and rumors? Was it since you decided to become a political advocacy agency?
I'm so done with your paper, you've lost my respect and admiration. Shame on you.
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Some people may prefer to get behind Devil than Hillary Clinton , who brought us Libya and Benghazi, private E-Mail Server and more numerous scandals. She thought only about herself and no one or nothing else.
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With a hearty agreement, I am re-posting an earlier post by RAC auburn me to make sure latecomers see it;
" This says everything that's wrong about my party: Obama likening Bernie to George W. Bush in front of donors who paid what many an American makes in a year. Obama may be hoping that Hillary continues his legacy of quiet military intervention and selling out the American people with the TPP>"
Thank you RAC.
" This says everything that's wrong about my party: Obama likening Bernie to George W. Bush in front of donors who paid what many an American makes in a year. Obama may be hoping that Hillary continues his legacy of quiet military intervention and selling out the American people with the TPP>"
Thank you RAC.
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Glad to see how the new Times policy on anonymous quotes, less than a week old, is having such an impact. From the article: "The comments were described by three people in the room for the event, all of whom were granted anonymity to describe a candid moment with the president." Right, because this "candid moment" is just like the Pentagon Papers or something, so critical to the future of the republic. What a joke.
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I was a Democrat for 26 years (switched to Independent a few weeks ago). I think that the Republicans are repugnant, but the shenanigans that the DNC, HRC, and DWS have pulled this election cycle have turned me off so much that rather than support Clinton I will fight her to the bitter end. She will not be POTUS.
You want to see a "quixotic candidacy" NYT?? I took a casual survey of friends and family who have voted for Democrats in the past. Two out of those 18 people plan to vote for Hillary. That means that in my little circle, Hillary has the support of 11.1% of voters who have reliably voted democratic in the past.
You nominate Hillary, you get president Trump. The country devolves into chaos. Won't that be fun for everyone?
You want to see a "quixotic candidacy" NYT?? I took a casual survey of friends and family who have voted for Democrats in the past. Two out of those 18 people plan to vote for Hillary. That means that in my little circle, Hillary has the support of 11.1% of voters who have reliably voted democratic in the past.
You nominate Hillary, you get president Trump. The country devolves into chaos. Won't that be fun for everyone?
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Your informal polling of friends and family contradicts my own, since 90% of my friends and family (in Northeast Ohio) support Clinton, many of them enthusiastically. Which is to say that casual surveys do not a candidate elect. The only things that matter are votes and delegates. And with that in mind, Clinton will be our party's nominee.
Inauthentic? She wrote the book on disingenuous phonies. It's sad Berne didn't take Ohio and Obama has to back her.
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The Democratic establishment and the media elite, including this paper, have been working to shut down the Sanders campaign since it started.
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Not so fast . . . if Democratic political machine elites run Bernie over, it's back to the Republican ticket for me. I refuse to vote for Hillary, a woman who simply cannot be trusted. I shall vote for Trump, who is far preferable to "business as usual"career politician with little to show for her decades-long efforts.
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does the president want the democrat to win or just sing kumbyya
because all the complaints about hillary she lacks authenticity she does not have enthusiasim are the exact reason she will not win the election based on her won delegates are from the red states which she will lose....obama ever the appeaser wants the democrats to come to gather i think the more important issue for the democrats is their future ...which without bernie sanders is nil to none ...who does have enthusiasim and authenticity and hold the future in the palm of his hand....the young and the independents
hillary clinton is part of the past not the future and the young and independents will never trust the democrats or the system agains after witnessing how corrupt and rigged the system is ....democrats want to see a redo of 2014.......coronate hillary......the future will evaporate before their eyes....they will never see the young or the independents again in thier life time
because all the complaints about hillary she lacks authenticity she does not have enthusiasim are the exact reason she will not win the election based on her won delegates are from the red states which she will lose....obama ever the appeaser wants the democrats to come to gather i think the more important issue for the democrats is their future ...which without bernie sanders is nil to none ...who does have enthusiasim and authenticity and hold the future in the palm of his hand....the young and the independents
hillary clinton is part of the past not the future and the young and independents will never trust the democrats or the system agains after witnessing how corrupt and rigged the system is ....democrats want to see a redo of 2014.......coronate hillary......the future will evaporate before their eyes....they will never see the young or the independents again in thier life time
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Call me crazy, but I doubt anyone at this private, "as much as $33,400 a ticket" event needed to be told to drop Bernie and donate to Hillary.
While I've mostly supported Obama, I don't like him dismissing the voters in the states whose primaries come later in the season. At least Bernie's committed to giving all Americans a voice.
While I've mostly supported Obama, I don't like him dismissing the voters in the states whose primaries come later in the season. At least Bernie's committed to giving all Americans a voice.
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The same Barack Obama who railed against the wealthy establishment in 2008 is meeting secretly with the wealthy establishment to embrace the establishment status quo candidate.
Change we can believe in?
Yeah right.
Change we can believe in?
Yeah right.
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I don't often agree with your posts, DC, but you are spot on with this one.
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Exactly. Well said.
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Thank You, President Obama. America does not need any more chaos. WE need a clear-headed President who knows what SHE is doing. My vote goes to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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I completely share the view of Bill Liberman, and would add that President Obama, who has done some good no doubt, has been a Clinton-style Democrat from the beginning (e.g. NAFTA/ASIAN+3, rather Wall St friendly), disappointing a lot of his original supporters who believed in his much more progressive rhetoric when he first ran for office. Bernie Sanders is like is bad conscience.
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Further proof that it's high time for a national primary. If we ALL get to vote for President, we ALL should have a say in which candidates will be on that ballot. Then again, if delegates, "super" or not, will just override our decision, what's it matter anyway? Ugh, what a total mess.
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Thank you Mr. President
And now he wants all the Sander's supporters to rally around his centrist pick for the Supreme Court? Bad timing. If he so believes in Hillary, why doesn't he wait until she wins, and we supposedly would get a more progressive justice? You're losing us Mr. President, when you need us. But then you have the $34,000 donors. What's the matter? They can't buy you the public support you so badly need right now?
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"I was for the TPP before Bernie Sanders was against it!"
"I cared about the poisoned children in Flint until the Michigan Primary was over!"
"I didn't have the guts to vote against Bush's War because the political winds were with him and I had my career to think about!"
"I took bribes from Wall Street by making Top Secret promises disguised as speeches!"
"I falsely accused Bernie Sanders of being a gun nut even though I knew he had a D-minus rating from the NRA!"
"I was the black president's biggest fan until the last Southern primary was over!"
- If Hillary spoke the Truth
"I cared about the poisoned children in Flint until the Michigan Primary was over!"
"I didn't have the guts to vote against Bush's War because the political winds were with him and I had my career to think about!"
"I took bribes from Wall Street by making Top Secret promises disguised as speeches!"
"I falsely accused Bernie Sanders of being a gun nut even though I knew he had a D-minus rating from the NRA!"
"I was the black president's biggest fan until the last Southern primary was over!"
- If Hillary spoke the Truth
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It would have been nice to see some, or at least one, of Obama's quotes. For a sitting president to tell a fellow-party candidate to quit, when half of the public has not had an opportunity to vote, is worth some "quotes" from him.
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Again . . No quotes in this article . . . Anonymous sources . . What did Obama actually say? Take it from the White House in this NBC post http://www.nbcnews.com/video/white-house-says-obama-did-not-endorse-clin...
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That NBC post doesn't say what President Obama actually said either.
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True.
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A strong Bernie Sanders supporter, I have known from the start of the primary that President Obama's chosen successor was Hillary Clinton. And, while I voted for President Obama twice and worked on both his 2008 and 2012 campaigns, his support for Hillary Clinton has not swayed me.
Faced with the inevitability of a Clinton victory in the Democratic primary and the knowledge that the entire Democratic establishment has sought to undermine the Sanders campaign throughout the primary battle, I'm weighing whether I will decide not to vote for a Presidential candidate in November - do an opt out in protest - or choose to write-in Bernie Sanders' name.
My millennial daughter told me the other day that she would not vote if Hillary Clinton won (she voted for Sanders in the Florida primary). I told her Florida was a swing state and she had to vote but I suspect many young Sanders supporters will not be at the polls come November.
Faced with the inevitability of a Clinton victory in the Democratic primary and the knowledge that the entire Democratic establishment has sought to undermine the Sanders campaign throughout the primary battle, I'm weighing whether I will decide not to vote for a Presidential candidate in November - do an opt out in protest - or choose to write-in Bernie Sanders' name.
My millennial daughter told me the other day that she would not vote if Hillary Clinton won (she voted for Sanders in the Florida primary). I told her Florida was a swing state and she had to vote but I suspect many young Sanders supporters will not be at the polls come November.
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Hillary will lead us off the cliff to save us from the big, bad Trump monster. Jump!
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The Times should have withdrawn this piece or fixed the headline and content to indicate that not everyone agreed on what got said in that "private" meeting the President had with some donors. I really have to sit on my hands not to cancel my Times subscription lately.
I'm voting for Sanders in NY unless somehow the DNC and the NYT and who knows, maybe Trump? manage to get Bernie off the ballot. Then, since the machine seems to have stacked the deck, I presume the Clintons will get the nomination, which is why I plan to leave the Democratic Party after the primaries, and why I will vote for Jill Stein in the general election. I've been a Democrat since the 60s and I'm still one but I'll be an independent while the leadership --which needs to change-- figures out once again what "Democrat" actually means.
I'm voting for Sanders in NY unless somehow the DNC and the NYT and who knows, maybe Trump? manage to get Bernie off the ballot. Then, since the machine seems to have stacked the deck, I presume the Clintons will get the nomination, which is why I plan to leave the Democratic Party after the primaries, and why I will vote for Jill Stein in the general election. I've been a Democrat since the 60s and I'm still one but I'll be an independent while the leadership --which needs to change-- figures out once again what "Democrat" actually means.
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I disagree with the President on this one. Hillary should earn the backing of Sanders' supporters on the hustings, not from a beach house in the Hamptons.
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To the kids who think they're so very, very superior:
1. Read Theodore Sturgeon's "Brownshoes."
2. Take the text of any of your comments, lay them alongside comments by ztrump's supporters, and look for commonalities. Start with looking for sexism, and condescending to people of color.
3. Run for office. Any office. Serve for a couple years--and I mean serve--and get back to everybody on the topic of purity.
4. Actually read--start with the PPACA, as though you even knew what that stands for--what you're screaming at.
5. Show up and vote. Show up and vote. Because so far, you ain't.
1. Read Theodore Sturgeon's "Brownshoes."
2. Take the text of any of your comments, lay them alongside comments by ztrump's supporters, and look for commonalities. Start with looking for sexism, and condescending to people of color.
3. Run for office. Any office. Serve for a couple years--and I mean serve--and get back to everybody on the topic of purity.
4. Actually read--start with the PPACA, as though you even knew what that stands for--what you're screaming at.
5. Show up and vote. Show up and vote. Because so far, you ain't.
If you look at the national polls, Bernie Sanders leads any and all Republican candidates for the presidential election, while Hillary Clinton trails most Republican opponents. The polls also show that large numbers of democrats do not trust Clinton and overwhelmingly trust Sanders. Sure there are some hard core Clinton supporters but I believe based on polls about integrity and vision of both candidates that most Clinton supporters are more reluctant voters for Clinton. This type of support fades with time while Sanders has shown that he consistently grows on people. Ending up with higher percentages as the polls show going into a race. I wouldn't count Sanders out.
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@J- First, Hillary wins states easily in closed primaries because she is extremely popular among true registered democrats. It is true that she doesn't fare as well as Sanders with independent voters who lean democratic. Second, this notion that Sanders does better in the general election is nonsense. Why? Because Bernie has never been fully vetted by an opponent armed with oppositional research. If Bernie were the nominee his negatives would climb and the republicans would start tearing Sanders down. Third, Hillary has more than a million votes more than a Sanders and is easily winning the popular vote. It's hard to argue that Sanders is more popular and more electable when he isn't winning states such as Florida and Ohio.
In embracing so tightly President Obama, his aims, and his methods, Clinton may have found an oh, so clever way to defeat Sen.Sanders without promising his supporters anything new in return, but few of us are fooled. Not least because she isn't even trying to take us in.
Rather than vote for someone who has as good as told us that a vote for her will be the end of our hopes, many of us will stay home this Fall. Rather than go open-eyed into a second Obama adminstration knowing a repeat of his betrayals and mistakes await, and on the same issues, think WallStreet, healthcare,and maybe even Social Security, many of us will finally part company with the Clinton's and their allies, and seek a, yes, authentic leftward tendency in American politics.
George W. Bush may have been a disaster as President, because his views
were so wrongheaded, but he kept faith with his supporters most of the way. To our President, I would say about authenticity, "Don't knock it till you've tried it."
Rather than vote for someone who has as good as told us that a vote for her will be the end of our hopes, many of us will stay home this Fall. Rather than go open-eyed into a second Obama adminstration knowing a repeat of his betrayals and mistakes await, and on the same issues, think WallStreet, healthcare,and maybe even Social Security, many of us will finally part company with the Clinton's and their allies, and seek a, yes, authentic leftward tendency in American politics.
George W. Bush may have been a disaster as President, because his views
were so wrongheaded, but he kept faith with his supporters most of the way. To our President, I would say about authenticity, "Don't knock it till you've tried it."
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I am reminded of my mother frequently intoning, "don't cut off your nose to spite your face." Staying home in a pique will just open the race to the horror of a reactionary republican president. Be careful what you boycott.
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Wow... This is the reason why democrats can't never get their act together, you would rather hand over the presidency to the crazy Republicans than vote for a fellow Democrat that you deem "inauthentic"? Whatever that means. Let me clue you into something, there is no such thing as authenticity, everyone has a shtick, a role they play! Sheesh! Grow up!
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President Obama didn't handle this well and even he admits the threat to the party if Bernie supporters defect. but I have a Question and belief. If Bernie were leading do you believe that the President would suggest to Clinton that she drop out and support Bernie? I happen to believe that President Obama would as he keeps his eye on the most important issue defeating the republican candidate.
Perhaps you believe that the country is going down the toilet and I often believe this as well. But I also believe that one man or woman even if president can save the country. It is up to us to save it and we must get beyond our disappointments to do so As the President says we must come together and this is the most important point whether it is around Bernie or Hillary. This was the president's true message.
Perhaps you believe that the country is going down the toilet and I often believe this as well. But I also believe that one man or woman even if president can save the country. It is up to us to save it and we must get beyond our disappointments to do so As the President says we must come together and this is the most important point whether it is around Bernie or Hillary. This was the president's true message.
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If Bernie was up in pledged delegates by 16% and won the largest battleground states, Ohio, Florida, and Virginia by double digits, I have absolutely no doubt that Obama would be backing Bernie and advising Hillary to at very least stop the negative attacks.
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama would do this and that Hillary would acquiesce.
Again, this is a 16% and 2.5 million vote lead, and she won the battleground states by double digits.
There is no doubt in my mind that Obama would do this and that Hillary would acquiesce.
Again, this is a 16% and 2.5 million vote lead, and she won the battleground states by double digits.
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It is unfortunate but it should not surprise anyone that President Obama did what he just did. It is really quite consistent with many of his past actions. He can endorse Donald Trump for all many people care if only he would stop fiercely pushing TPP. His words stopped meaning much to many Democrats long ago, but the damage TPP will do will last for years. This is why we need the only candidate who is sincerely opposed to TPP, Bernie Sanders. That and for many other very good reasons I still say with undiminished energy: Go Bernie!
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"Democracy is one person, one vote and a full discussion of the issues that affect us. Oligarchy is billionaires buying elections" (Sanders)
This is another example of oligarchs protecting each other's interests. It would be funny if it wasn't the presidential campaign of the most powerful country in the world.
This is another example of oligarchs protecting each other's interests. It would be funny if it wasn't the presidential campaign of the most powerful country in the world.
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Obama thinks the reason voters choose Sanders over Clinton is due to her "lack of authenticity" that we don't find her "exciting"? A tad insulting.
Sorry, no. This is about policies - not personalities.
This is why democrats could lose the next election. Many voters know that both the Democratic and Republican elites sold out the poor, working and middle class in the US: Banking deregulation, NAFTA, 3 strikes, end of welfare (for people - corporations get to keep theirs) all gutted this country.
The elites in both parties are being sent a message. They need to listen more carefully.
Sanders isn't relying on elite donors anyway.
Sorry, no. This is about policies - not personalities.
This is why democrats could lose the next election. Many voters know that both the Democratic and Republican elites sold out the poor, working and middle class in the US: Banking deregulation, NAFTA, 3 strikes, end of welfare (for people - corporations get to keep theirs) all gutted this country.
The elites in both parties are being sent a message. They need to listen more carefully.
Sanders isn't relying on elite donors anyway.
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One of the most disappointing singular moments from a president who has by and large avoided them. Let democracy take its natural course - or at least as natural as our admittedly befuddling electoral process will allow.
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I voted twice for Obama and my buyer's remorse increases with each passing day.
I could not be more disappointed.
I could not be more disappointed.
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Of course Hillary Clinton is authentic.
She authentically supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
She authentically supported the overthrowing of the Libyian government.
She authentically supported Walmart and its anti-Union policies.
She authentically opposes a 21st century version of Glass-Steagall.
She has authentically said asking for what other leading countries have, such as subsidized higher education tuition, access to health care for all Americans, more investments in this country and less in more military adventurism, is simply too much to expect.
And she authentically addresses Wall Street anytime they ask, as long as they are paying.
Geez, America, how much more authenticity do you want?
She authentically supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
She authentically supported the overthrowing of the Libyian government.
She authentically supported Walmart and its anti-Union policies.
She authentically opposes a 21st century version of Glass-Steagall.
She has authentically said asking for what other leading countries have, such as subsidized higher education tuition, access to health care for all Americans, more investments in this country and less in more military adventurism, is simply too much to expect.
And she authentically addresses Wall Street anytime they ask, as long as they are paying.
Geez, America, how much more authenticity do you want?
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So according to the President, the rest of the primary season doesn't matter; what matters is for the deep pockets to protect his legacy. So much for what the Everyman/Everywoman voter has to say. It's sad.
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I have been a avid and ardent supporter of President Obama since the early days in Chicago when he ran for US Senate in Illinois. I supported him when so many of my Latino colleagues and friends were supporting the "Latino" candidate - Gery Chico at the time. I housed Obama campaign staffers in 2008 and 2012 for months on end, and supported his campaigns financially to the maximum extent of the law. The reasons I supported him is that I believed in his grass roots campaign, organizing background, and he spoke a message of a democracy that I embraced and believed in.
I cannot express how disappointed I am to hear that Obama is doing the very thing that I thought he rejected. WHY WHY is he trying to send a message to the millions of people that have yet to vote that would discourage them from supporting a candidate that they believe best serves the issues, values and concerns they have?
What happened to letting the people speak, as they did when Obama benefit from the millions of people who dismissed the naysayers and voted for him when Clinton was the presumptive nominee. What is different this time around? Has Obama become the establishment, the status quo, another tool of the Democratic Party? I don't recognize our Democratic Party anymore, likely in the same way that many Republicans no longer recognize their party.
Two sides of the same coin.
I cannot express how disappointed I am to hear that Obama is doing the very thing that I thought he rejected. WHY WHY is he trying to send a message to the millions of people that have yet to vote that would discourage them from supporting a candidate that they believe best serves the issues, values and concerns they have?
What happened to letting the people speak, as they did when Obama benefit from the millions of people who dismissed the naysayers and voted for him when Clinton was the presumptive nominee. What is different this time around? Has Obama become the establishment, the status quo, another tool of the Democratic Party? I don't recognize our Democratic Party anymore, likely in the same way that many Republicans no longer recognize their party.
Two sides of the same coin.
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Because undermining the eventual nominee doesn't serve the larger objective, get it?
He's a toadie to the corporations.
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I sent an email to President Obama asking him to resist publicly supporting Clinton, pointing out that Clinton is intellectually lazy, sees facts that don't exist and makes decisions based on those non-existent facts that are detrimental to U.S. while Bernie's decisions are acutely sharp and far-sighted.
Alsi, Clinton, when faced with Trump will be anxious and defensive, while Bernie will take Trumps measure and be cool and sharp.
Alsi, Clinton, when faced with Trump will be anxious and defensive, while Bernie will take Trumps measure and be cool and sharp.
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Obama is forever the pragmatic. Correct in his assessment, but in true form lacking fire.
No offense, but his pragmatism and correctness has kept this country out of countless unnecessary skirmishes. Want some fire?? -- light a match.
Yeah, what a dud Obama is. Hope he never runs. He'll never inspire anyone. I'll vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee.
President Obama evidently lacks the stamina to keep repeating the same things over and over again until they are hammered through people's thick skulls.
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So I guess I have another 20 bucks a month to send to Bernie by cancelling my Times subscription.
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Because they reported a story you don't like? The times didn't meet with donors!
Those donors are already supporting Hillary. We the people are supporting Bernie. We can't max out but we are giving a few dollars each. Shame on the president for putting his finger on the scale --- on the side of 0.01 percent. But what else is new???
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This is headline news? Giving your impartiality (?) I'm thinking this could be mostly wishful thinking on your part.
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What did he say exactly? Quote? here say is not fact!
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First, the article says:
"The comments were later confirmed by a White House official."
Three people who actually HEARD the statement from his mouth are WITNESSES, and their statements are not hearsay.
Hearsay is a statement by you reporting what a second person told you that the SECOND person heard a THiRD person say, when you did not hear the third person actually speak. You would be prevented from testifying in court on the basis of hearsay, but the second person (who heard the atatement) would be a witness and could testify.
Don't throw around terminology you do not understand. You just sound foolish. At least you do not sound cynical, as does a certain President that I respected up to the time I read this article.
Bernie Sanders in 2016.
"The comments were later confirmed by a White House official."
Three people who actually HEARD the statement from his mouth are WITNESSES, and their statements are not hearsay.
Hearsay is a statement by you reporting what a second person told you that the SECOND person heard a THiRD person say, when you did not hear the third person actually speak. You would be prevented from testifying in court on the basis of hearsay, but the second person (who heard the atatement) would be a witness and could testify.
Don't throw around terminology you do not understand. You just sound foolish. At least you do not sound cynical, as does a certain President that I respected up to the time I read this article.
Bernie Sanders in 2016.
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Why on earth has the President done this? New York, California, and Pennsylvania (among others) have yet to hold their own primaries. If I were Bernie Sanders or one of his supporters, I would not be too happy about this (to put it mildly). This is being patently unfair to a candidate who has comported himself with dignity and integrity. It also shows a good amont of disrespect towards his supporters, who at times may appear naive, but nontheless have done yeoman work on his behalf. My guess is that they won't forget this - nor should they. Though I'm disinclined to vote for any of the candidates in EITHER party (I'm writing in my choice) this stunt makes me even more determined not to vote for Hillary Clinton. The fat lady may be warming up, but she hasn't sung yet, and as far as I'm concerned there's still a race for the nomination between two candidates in the Democratic Party.
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Mr. President I know you must think it quaint to let the people decide who their candidate should be but that's what this whole primary process is about. If you are so certain that she will make a good president, why do you fear the primary processing fully vetting her out with all of the electorate? California & New York, both of which hold sizable Democratic delegate counts, have yet to even vote. Do you really want to deny the democratic process to these citizens in these 2 highly populous states?
Let the people speak. Surely you do not fear that...
Let the people speak. Surely you do not fear that...
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I do not agree with Bernie Sanders supporters abandoning him at this stage of the electriction process! Once all the states have voted and all the delegates have been counted THEN if Hilary Clinton is going to be the Democratic Candidate THEN everyone voting Democratic needs to support her. But not until that happens.
Obama didn't think HIllary would make a good President....when he was running against her!
Suddenly she's Presidential material?
Suddenly she's Presidential material?
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What on earth are you talking about??-- Of course the people are going to decide who they want. Even if it's that disaster Donald Trump, or the scarier Ted Cruz. And after our Primary here in New York, and in California, you just might have something else to find quaint.
Sanders' team isn't intimidated by the numbers? Then how about being realistic about them? If he were a Democrat, I'd wonder why he wasn't rallying behind her at this juncture; then again, he's not a Democrat, he's just running as one. (And you want to talk about authentic?!) But as a patriot, and pseudo-Democrat, it's time to get behind whomever can beat that crazy joke Trump, or the even crazier Cruz -- and Bernie, while a nice if crusty old guy, can not, at this time, be elected. All the arm-waving in the world isn't going to change that.
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Bernie is obviously vulnerable to having his ego stroked by false flatterers.
If McCain/Palin hadn't been Obama's opponents I might not have voted for him.
If Romney/Ryan hadn't been Obama's opponents I definitely would not have voted for him.
He sits in the White House for many as the lesser of two evils. His opinions on his successors are meaningless.
If Romney/Ryan hadn't been Obama's opponents I definitely would not have voted for him.
He sits in the White House for many as the lesser of two evils. His opinions on his successors are meaningless.
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He wasn't talking to you in that meeting
How humiliating. Our leader wants People to back a criminal.
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Is your leader Mitt Romney or Marco Rubio ?
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Please explain your use of the adjective "criminal." Do by all means reference the law.
I think I've read my final piece of political hackery from HRC's house newsletter fka The New York Times. An interpretation of remarks by three anonymous sources? Who happened to be around after the press had left This is your headline story? I will miss a lot of good things about the Times but I can always find them online. I'm cancelling my subscription.
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How is reporting this story a hack job?
Too bad they didn't unite behind her when she had the same lead over Obama at the same point 9 years ago.
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And too bad you're not a Unicorn. Sorry. Time marches on....
She never had a lead over Obama at this point last time. Her pledged delegate lead now is bigger than Obama's lead ever was last time.
I don't understand this comment. She never had a lead over Obama at this point in 2008. Her lead over Bernie now is larger than Obama's lead over her ever was. So Bernie's odds of catching up are very very long.
"Still, those in attendance said in interviews that they took his (Obama's) comments as a signal to Mr. Sanders that perpetuating his campaign, which is now an uphill climb, could only help the Republicans recapture the White House."
Far be it from me to shoot the messenger, but if you (at the NYT) agree with Trump that there could be a "riot" at the Republican Convention, you should take good measure of the dynamics of the upcoming Democratic Convention. I remember 1968, well. I was there in Chicago! Do not think it would not happen again! The Republican protests will pale in comparison with what the President may be putting into play, if what you report is true. Shame on him!
What a sham we have become. I will vote for Trump if the president helps Clinton steal the nomination from Sanders. And millions of others will too. Please be advised.
Far be it from me to shoot the messenger, but if you (at the NYT) agree with Trump that there could be a "riot" at the Republican Convention, you should take good measure of the dynamics of the upcoming Democratic Convention. I remember 1968, well. I was there in Chicago! Do not think it would not happen again! The Republican protests will pale in comparison with what the President may be putting into play, if what you report is true. Shame on him!
What a sham we have become. I will vote for Trump if the president helps Clinton steal the nomination from Sanders. And millions of others will too. Please be advised.
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Sigh - no one has stolen the election from anyone. Your candidate simply does not have the delegates to win at this point even without the evil super delegates.
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It's late in the queue, but my rage can't contain me. This from the guy who asked us to believe in change. Telling 30k plus doners to get behind Hillary when we are only half way thru the primaries and I and millions of other Democrats haven't had a chance to voice our opinion yet? all this to protect his legacy? Get me a break Obama, get out of my way and the democratic way.
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Obama is not in your way..the math is
By all means, stand up and shout "You lie," at the black President. It's a proud tradition.
She'll never be President. Nominating her will ensure deep losses all down the ticket. They have been warned, but they refuse to open their eyes.
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If anyone knows about fake authenticity, it would be Obama.
Hope and Change from the center right.
Hope and Change from the center right.
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So disappointing.
While Obama is out there speaking to his big ticket DCN donors, and Clinton is flying around the country gathering the big bucks and meeting with bundlers in states that have already voted, Bernie Sanders just keeps meeting with real voters, sticks to his message, and asks all of us to send in a few more small donations to help keep in the race.
Although clearly a planned leak, at least Mitt Romney had the courage to have his say in public. Shame on the president for trying to discourage the rest of us from voting. I hate to be the one who tells him, but this is what hope and change really looks like.
While Obama is out there speaking to his big ticket DCN donors, and Clinton is flying around the country gathering the big bucks and meeting with bundlers in states that have already voted, Bernie Sanders just keeps meeting with real voters, sticks to his message, and asks all of us to send in a few more small donations to help keep in the race.
Although clearly a planned leak, at least Mitt Romney had the courage to have his say in public. Shame on the president for trying to discourage the rest of us from voting. I hate to be the one who tells him, but this is what hope and change really looks like.
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Sanders' supporters have been vilifying HRC for months and months and months, and have been (irritatingly) trying to convince those of us who support and like her -- incredible, I know -- that their guy is the only legitimate Democratic candidate in this campaign. * eye roll *
A note to Saint Bernard's "revolutionaries": Your man has lost. He put up a good fight. A solidly centrist Democrat is going to be the party's nominee, and she's going to win in November -- unless you decide to pout and whine and sit on your hands, and allow a xenophobic, racist, right-wing abomination to take the White House. Are you really that petty? I think not. Or at least I hope not.
A note to Saint Bernard's "revolutionaries": Your man has lost. He put up a good fight. A solidly centrist Democrat is going to be the party's nominee, and she's going to win in November -- unless you decide to pout and whine and sit on your hands, and allow a xenophobic, racist, right-wing abomination to take the White House. Are you really that petty? I think not. Or at least I hope not.
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Do you really think that the Dem primaries ended tomorrow in Hillary's favor, she would get the slightest media exposure in the vital weeks before the convention? The celebrity-, spectacle-obsessed media will spend all their time on the other side.
Even though you don't like the competition, it's absolutely the best thing, and the only thing the Dems need right now, because it commands attention. Whoever wins will be the better for it. If it's Hillary, and she wants to win in November, she won't be solidly centrist; Bernie has changed the party too much for that. She will have to appeal to people that the Democrats have ignored for too long - working people (and those who wish they were working) at the middle and lower levels of the economic ladder.
Even though you don't like the competition, it's absolutely the best thing, and the only thing the Dems need right now, because it commands attention. Whoever wins will be the better for it. If it's Hillary, and she wants to win in November, she won't be solidly centrist; Bernie has changed the party too much for that. She will have to appeal to people that the Democrats have ignored for too long - working people (and those who wish they were working) at the middle and lower levels of the economic ladder.
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I will never vote for Clinton, the most dishonest, hollow, avaricious pol of the last 50 years. At least Nixon had ability, real experience and cognizable achievements.
I'd rather have the Trump wrecking ball instead of the continued slow descent of the nation, continuation of the forever wars, Bill's sociopath indiscipline and the smug, legacy Chelsea not to mention the legions of Blumenthals' waiting to run the revolving door from the CF to "adviser" to lobbyist.
Hillary is a terrible candidate as she lacks a core and accordingly continues to make "unforced errors" for which the media gives her a pass for misfires that would end most candidacies. Never again!
I'd rather have the Trump wrecking ball instead of the continued slow descent of the nation, continuation of the forever wars, Bill's sociopath indiscipline and the smug, legacy Chelsea not to mention the legions of Blumenthals' waiting to run the revolving door from the CF to "adviser" to lobbyist.
Hillary is a terrible candidate as she lacks a core and accordingly continues to make "unforced errors" for which the media gives her a pass for misfires that would end most candidacies. Never again!
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Your belligerence will not attract Bernie Sanders supporters, your bent up anger is spilling off the pages, please calm down.
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Why are you even reporting this? I am fed up with the bias I am seeing more and more in the NYTimes and its attempts to favor HRC...Stop it, please, it is not fitting for a newspaper of caliber.
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Dear President Obama,
Stay out of this. Those of us who don't make in a year what those donors paid for their tickets would rather our guy get the chance to at least speak at the convention. You've never cared about your base and have always taken us for granted. Frankly, the fact that Mrs. Clinton said she would continue your policies is one of the reasons I favor Bernie.
Stay out of this. Those of us who don't make in a year what those donors paid for their tickets would rather our guy get the chance to at least speak at the convention. You've never cared about your base and have always taken us for granted. Frankly, the fact that Mrs. Clinton said she would continue your policies is one of the reasons I favor Bernie.
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Finally!! Democrats are finally realizing how the corporate world has a hold on their politics. It's always been about how badly the Republican Party is tainted with money. Finally, the other side is admitting their own problems.
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When are the Clinton Supporters going to wake up. It's not really about Bernie Sanders. It's the Message. It's the Message!!. The only reason Trump has a chance is because of the Hillary Clinton Supporters, Not the Bernie Sanders Supporters. The truth hurts, After watching the March 15th Hillary media dog an pony show during the primaries. I have become a firm "Bernie or Bust!!" Guy, Even if Bernie tells me to support Hillary at the convention, I am Sorry, I will not drink the cool aid!. Hillary and Trump are different sides of the same coin. I am a American that doesn't support a corruption. If you support Hillary or Trump, You are just a corrupt as they are. I feel sorry for you. I believe that this is a chance for a America to clean house. My vote is the broom.
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Agreed.
Hillary and Donald have in common that I have no idea what either of them will do as President.
Trump can't possibly keep his promises (eg, walls and mass deportations).
Hillary has been many contradictory things over the years: a "feminist" defending her philandering husband and bashing his victims; a "daughter of the South" turning her back on the South to be the Senator from New York; the New York Senator who, with her allegiance to Wall Street, voted to make it harder for the working and middle classes to declare bankruptcy and who now is the self proclaimed champion of the working and middle classes; the champion of the working and middle classes who managed to become a multimillionaire from politics; the former "moderate" who is now a "progressive"; the "wise statesman" who voted for the Iraq invasion and who encouraged military action in Libya, which is now a failed state.
I have no idea what she will do as President. In that sense, she and Trump are the same unknowns, and that's reason enough not to vote for either one.
Hillary and Donald have in common that I have no idea what either of them will do as President.
Trump can't possibly keep his promises (eg, walls and mass deportations).
Hillary has been many contradictory things over the years: a "feminist" defending her philandering husband and bashing his victims; a "daughter of the South" turning her back on the South to be the Senator from New York; the New York Senator who, with her allegiance to Wall Street, voted to make it harder for the working and middle classes to declare bankruptcy and who now is the self proclaimed champion of the working and middle classes; the champion of the working and middle classes who managed to become a multimillionaire from politics; the former "moderate" who is now a "progressive"; the "wise statesman" who voted for the Iraq invasion and who encouraged military action in Libya, which is now a failed state.
I have no idea what she will do as President. In that sense, she and Trump are the same unknowns, and that's reason enough not to vote for either one.
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President Obama is correct. The infighting among supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders only benefits the GOP. It's time for such internal squabbles to end so that all resources can be focused into ensuring that the GOP does not take the White House in November because a Republican POTUS will be the ruination of us all.
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I can not vote for hillary i will write in bernies name on the ballot.
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Maybe too soon to call, Mr. President. Very disappointed in your way too early pronouncement.
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The man is beyond brilliant - I only wish he'd govern like he campaigns.
There's no redistributionism or socialism here - the man just looks to win.
Why doesn't he understand that nurturing this instinct - in the rest of us - is so important.
It's like the folks who tell their grade-school kids that the final score in the soccer game doesn't matter.
But same folks have been killing - since the kids were born - to get them into Harvard.
He may think America's not exceptional - and had a hand in making that true.
But - even as I disagree with him on many things - I acknowledge that he's one exceptional American.
Till a week ago, I thought Trump was a shoo-in.
The way Obama's playing chess - while the Republicans play checkers - on the SCOTUS situation will easily move the needle 3-4 points in the presidential race.
Talk about an elite establishment, with no sense of the importance of winning.
FWIW, my preference would've been Bloomberg - but whaddaygonnado...
There's no redistributionism or socialism here - the man just looks to win.
Why doesn't he understand that nurturing this instinct - in the rest of us - is so important.
It's like the folks who tell their grade-school kids that the final score in the soccer game doesn't matter.
But same folks have been killing - since the kids were born - to get them into Harvard.
He may think America's not exceptional - and had a hand in making that true.
But - even as I disagree with him on many things - I acknowledge that he's one exceptional American.
Till a week ago, I thought Trump was a shoo-in.
The way Obama's playing chess - while the Republicans play checkers - on the SCOTUS situation will easily move the needle 3-4 points in the presidential race.
Talk about an elite establishment, with no sense of the importance of winning.
FWIW, my preference would've been Bloomberg - but whaddaygonnado...
The Rove/Luntz Cabal always smears your strength. People who know Hillary will always tell you glowingly that her loyalty, compassion, and profound trustworthiness are her core qualities. Sowing doubt, tarnishing, and besmirching that essential truth about her is the vicious target of Rove/Luntz grim bile.
Piffle I say upon this 'authenticity' nonsense. I see her truly listen to people, a quality I have never seen in any other politician. She hears your authenticity and learns from it. I have followed her for decades, and if I or you had done 100,000th of the good she has with so many days upon days of her life. we would be jubilant with ourselves.
Piffle I say upon this 'authenticity' nonsense. I see her truly listen to people, a quality I have never seen in any other politician. She hears your authenticity and learns from it. I have followed her for decades, and if I or you had done 100,000th of the good she has with so many days upon days of her life. we would be jubilant with ourselves.
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Mr. Obama berates Citizens United in his State of the Union address. He then makes a speech to lobbyists. He then advocates undermining a candidate who is against money in politics.
Mr. Obama must think we are stupid. After what happened in Illinois and Ohio, he might be right.
Mr. Obama must think we are stupid. After what happened in Illinois and Ohio, he might be right.
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Bernie's campaign has been "a modest achievement." Time for him to step down.
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One corporate shill endorses another. No surprise here.
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Nope Obama. The real race has just begun. "Southern" primary is done now. Bernie just needs 56% win against HRC in the second half of the primary which is loaded with states favorable to Bernie. And dont try to kid yourself. If you are serious of democratic presidency, we need unite behind Bernie NOT HRC. I know Bernie has been independent and he will outdo all your halfass policies and make you look bad if he become president but hey, Americans want Bernie. His favorability rating is 60%! Not only that, every major poll predicts Bernie would defeat any republican candidate in landslide whereas HRC is projected to lose against even Kasich in general election.
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jK—Sanders also lost the Midwest as well as the South. And Sanders will lose AZ next week and he lost Nevada both in the West.
President Obama knows that Sanders' pie in the sky free education isn't going to make it. Sounds good to the young people, but so unrealistic. We can only hope they will still vote for Clinton if Bernie does not get the nomination, which is getting more likely. Dems need ALL votes, young and old. We cannot allow a Republican president - or a Trump president. Difficult to even call him Republican!
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Back in the 70's and before, the tuition at state universities was practically nonexistent. The tuition at the University of Illinois law school, for example, was about $350.00 per semester. The difference between then and now is political will. The states don't support their state universities like they used to because of a lack of money caused in large part by conservative and neoliberal policies. If we did it back then we could do it now, if we chose to do it.
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Interesting article in Time magazine about "the sexist double bind" for women candidates: Too aggressive/not aggressive enough, double-standards according to genders. It is all alive and well in the Clinton/Sanders match-up. A middle-aged frumpy female yelling and pointing her finger and promising things without a clear plan would be made a laughingstock.
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Middle-aged frumpy females have been pretty good heads of state, for instance Golda Meir and Angele Merkel. As for the "yelling": late one night on CNN, after a Democratic debate, Philadelphia's wonderful former mayor Michael Nutter said it very nicely. He said, "Bernie Sanders does a lot of shouting too. When he does it, though, you fellows call it 'enthusiasm'. Don't you think you should try to guard against gender bias here?"
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Kay,
Yes, I read the Time article.
Middle-aged? Sanders is 74. If a frumpy 74-year-old woman, as you say, tried to get up on a national stage to yell and point her finger about anything, she would be made a laughing stock -- for 10 minutes. Then, no one would pay any attention to her again!
Yes, I read the Time article.
Middle-aged? Sanders is 74. If a frumpy 74-year-old woman, as you say, tried to get up on a national stage to yell and point her finger about anything, she would be made a laughing stock -- for 10 minutes. Then, no one would pay any attention to her again!
I am a 52 year old college educated white male. I will Never vote for Hillary Clinton. I truly believe in changing our corrupt political system is very important, it is corrupt because of Hillary and Bill Clinton. I voted for Obama in 2008. Why would I vote for Hillary Clinton, She’s the problem. I truly don’t understand why people are even supporting Hillary Clinton. I can only think that people are just in denial about how bad Hillary Clinton really is. Bernie Sanders is the first person in a very long time that makes me feel America has a chance to clean up the Political mess our country is in. The Press is in Bed with Hillary and it makes me sick to my stomach. I pray that America wakes up. I have been a NPR supporter for many years, I feel they should change it to Hillary Public Radio. I have been a sustaining member for many years. I feel betrayed by NPR’s blind support of Hillary Clinton. If not, Bernie, give me some other choices, Biden, Warren. This is America, There are more people available, that people trust. No one who is truly honest with oneself believes Hillary Clinton is an Honest person, (She’s just a standard Politician).
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Every time I hear an argument like this:
"I am a .... and I will not vote instead of voting for Hillary, or I'll vote for Trump ..."
I give more to Hillary.
If the person gives their demographic info, I double the amount. If they say they are a lifelong Democrat, I triple the amount. If the Times fails to post my comment, I double the amount again.
So keep it coming alleged Bernie supporters, tell me all about how Democratic you were before Obama's executive orders and before the sniper fire and the transcripts.
The only people who care are me and the Hillary campaign.
"I am a .... and I will not vote instead of voting for Hillary, or I'll vote for Trump ..."
I give more to Hillary.
If the person gives their demographic info, I double the amount. If they say they are a lifelong Democrat, I triple the amount. If the Times fails to post my comment, I double the amount again.
So keep it coming alleged Bernie supporters, tell me all about how Democratic you were before Obama's executive orders and before the sniper fire and the transcripts.
The only people who care are me and the Hillary campaign.
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There's something so fantastical about this post which makes me wonder what you would write if Hillary Clinton were a man. Biden? That was your tell.
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I too am disappointed in NPR, not only are there no more politicians but we cannot depend on our beloved NYT or NPR for unbiased news and a check on power. It all makes me sick to my stomach too because we oldies remember when these institutions were great and honorable but our children, understandably cynical, know not, EXCEPT they have many of them discovered Bernie Sanders, the last trustworthy politician in Washington. What a back of steel he has to never have given in to the wealth and corruption, he has been tested and the public is ready for his message now. Boy does this country need Bernie.
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Why do we need to contribute to the corrupt candidate?
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What a pity that the Democratic Party isn't coalescing around Sanders. There's quite a bit of distance from the gutter to the clouds, but Democrats will never have an easier path.
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Obama made his comments to people who paid $30,000 each to hear him? That kind of says it all, doesn't it?
Funny how the article didn't mention Clinton's proclivity to bomb anything that moves as one of the "central complaints" about her. It is in fact the primary one for some of us.
Funny how the article didn't mention Clinton's proclivity to bomb anything that moves as one of the "central complaints" about her. It is in fact the primary one for some of us.
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Obama said this out of his ex-officio job as head of the Democratic party. It is Obama's job to bring the party back together agaiin after the primary. Unlike Mr. Sanders, most Democrats care about the future of the party.
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Sanders cares about future of country. Me too.
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Unlike the DNC, Sanders cares about the future of this country. Parties are just self perpetuating beasts. When they stop serving the people, they need to be out to pasture.
Mr. Sanders cares deeply about the future of Democratic party. No recommend.
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Bernie, who started out as a longshot, obscure candidate, has re-made the political landscape. As far-fetched as his ideas sound, he rightly attacks the egregious inequities in our wobbly democracy. He is not only authentic, he is the most passionate and intelligent candidate I have seen in a long, long time. He raised $40MM in February, and he does not have a Super PAC. That he has come this far is an astounding accomplishment. Give Bernie his due. He has not attacked Clinton, only her record. To Clinton I would say, whatever doesn't kill you will make you stronger. If Clinton ends up the nominee, let her be stronger from a well fought campaign with a true reformer.
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Obama we will not all unite behind Hillary, some of us will jump ship to Trump because Hillary is a corporate shill
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Otherwise known as cutting off your nose to spite your face.
@Benjamin
You were never going to vote for anyone other than Trump!
You were never going to vote for anyone other than Trump!
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Then it will be Donald Trump!
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Obama seems to me a shameless politician, who lied about transparency and about helping the middle class.
Saying that I have to back Hillary is just disgusting garbage to me.
Why did he had to choose Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, I do not know, but maybe she knows something about him or promised him some reward for getting her close to her dream to get a crown.
Saying that I have to back Hillary is just disgusting garbage to me.
Why did he had to choose Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, I do not know, but maybe she knows something about him or promised him some reward for getting her close to her dream to get a crown.
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Let's get real guys there is no way Sanders can make it. Audacity of hope is good but not being unrealistic.
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Reuters is flatly refuting your article. Come on NYT! Get it together.
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I have just lost all remaining respect for this man, uh, I mean puppet.
This is a Revolution from two roots- Revolt; To rebel against, and Revive; To return to consciousness, health and vigor,= Revolutionize: make a fundamental change. This is a paradigm shift- "if the people lead the leaders will follow". Senator Sanders has been true to his word about not going negative. He could very easily shine a spot light on the questionable choices, scandals and reasonable evidence of voter manipulation and/or fraud ,of Mrs.Clinton and/or her campaign. the media needs to do a more rigorous job of it- but they can only be counted on to provide inaccurate, misleading and even false information. There is plenty of time for Sen.Sanders to calmly comment on this with a camera rolling. (Even though Mr.Brock of the Clinton team has made arrogant requests with threatening undertones to not do this.)
Sen Sanders has the BEST chance of defeating Trump! Check your numbers and admit it. Fact, the DNC VP Just resigned her post so that she could publicly endorse Senator Sanders for this very reason and others. Keep in mind, that even though Bernie is restraining himself with Hillary, he won't hold back with Trump!He has been battling for Justice and human rights over ignorance and hate his whole life. smart, humble, brave, who stands up to protect, defend and show others it is possible to not be subjugated any longer.
This is a Revolution from two roots- Revolt; To rebel against, and Revive; To return to consciousness, health and vigor,= Revolutionize: make a fundamental change. This is a paradigm shift- "if the people lead the leaders will follow". Senator Sanders has been true to his word about not going negative. He could very easily shine a spot light on the questionable choices, scandals and reasonable evidence of voter manipulation and/or fraud ,of Mrs.Clinton and/or her campaign. the media needs to do a more rigorous job of it- but they can only be counted on to provide inaccurate, misleading and even false information. There is plenty of time for Sen.Sanders to calmly comment on this with a camera rolling. (Even though Mr.Brock of the Clinton team has made arrogant requests with threatening undertones to not do this.)
Sen Sanders has the BEST chance of defeating Trump! Check your numbers and admit it. Fact, the DNC VP Just resigned her post so that she could publicly endorse Senator Sanders for this very reason and others. Keep in mind, that even though Bernie is restraining himself with Hillary, he won't hold back with Trump!He has been battling for Justice and human rights over ignorance and hate his whole life. smart, humble, brave, who stands up to protect, defend and show others it is possible to not be subjugated any longer.
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As someone who voted in favor of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, I don't believe Hillary Clinton is qualified to be the Democratic nominee, much less POTUS. 818 billion dollars later we are still paying for it. That's money that could have been spent HERE rather than in a foreign country. She has consistently shown poor judgement in handling our foreign policy, at least when it comes to deploying American troops and national resources abroad...saying it was a 'mistake' to have voted in favor of that authorization to go to war is not enough.
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Bernie doesn't think you have the judgment to make that decision
My wife just got an invitation to attend a one hour "Conversation with Chelsea" in Los Angeles on March 20. Donation is $500. This is why Bernie needs to stay in the race.
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If your wife won't be going, please ask her to send me her invitation to see Chelsea. Thank you.
Why what's the problem? It's a fundraiser. I have donated a total of $500 to Clintons campaign so far and Bernie has gotten a windfall of private donations. Wondering if you could explain why a private fundraiser asking for 500 dollars is out of bounds?
We have to give the Democrat Party credit for giving Sanders, a true maverick independent a place on the primary ticket. Running as an independent he would never get the exposure he has achieved. That comment about Obama keeping quiet is pretty rich. He's not allowed to have an opinion? Sanders is giving an opening to Trump no matter what his bedazzled fans say. He's getting meaner as he falls behind and even more unrealistic than ever if that's possible. That's the danger.
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Bernie Sanders was allowed to run as a Democrat because the DNC and Hillary expect to get the votes of the independents who back him, but never wanted him to have a real chance to the nomination. The DNC is just like the RNC. That is why I am independent. I do not plan to pinch my nose to vote for a corrupt and hypocrite like Hillary.
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People are forgetting what happened during the Nixon-McGovern election. I have no doubt Trump will have the easiest time obliterating Sanders.
I have to say I find the Bernie supporters on these NYT comments *almost* as scary as the Trump supporters. The vitriol is really so unappealing and does little to persuade. You have to wonder why they find the candidacy of a woman so threatening. Bernie's quixotic joy ride is coming to an end and really history will judge this uncharismatic, rambling, no detailed plan pol who is just acting as a spoiler to this historic moment. There's never been a politician that's effective and 100% pristine. That's an impossible standard that only a child would stubbornly adhere to. Hillary was an incredibly effective senator. She has the highest IQ of all the candidates, the best experience and yes, when it counts, her heart is in the right place. I can't wait to vote for her.
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Agree. It's really shocking to read some of the things written in these comments. Bernie and Trump are really tapping into some deep-seated anger and prejudice within the American public. That people are proudly announcing their willingness to vote for Trump or not at all to assert their sense of morality is sad to say the least. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Come on. Do you really think these people are actually Bernie supporters ?
He is President Barak Obama. Not Obama.
If this is true, I'm so disappointed in Obama. First, anything important enough to be said, should be said in front of everyone, not just the big-bucks contributors. And second, every vote should be heard. This primary must not be determined by the DNC, the media, or the big-bucks contributors. It's for the voters to choose, and they haven't all chosen yet. I had more faith that Obama would know that.
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So, what's going to happen to Clinton in the November election if the FBI investigations don't go her way and she ends up getting indicted? Bernie needs to stay in the race if for no other reason than more time will pass so maybe we can see where these investigations are headed before the rest of the country has anointed her.
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I'd still vote for her. If she's convicted, her VP takes over Still better than Trump, Cruz, or any Republican.
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You don't want to live in a country that uses contrived pretexts to take out politicians.
The idea tha anyone should care what Obama says on this is strange to me. People have the right to vote and the fact that Obama wants the process to end before many of us even have a chance to vote for the nominee is outrageous. Why have primaries at all? Just let the powerful decide who gets to run, which come to think of it, seems to be the message here. It used to be that way and I suppose it would make sense in our new gilded age if we go back tin the good old days.
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Perhaps if the Times would post the actual vote totals on their site, Obama's comments will make more sense. She is up by 2.5 million votes ( 58.5% to 41.5% )
If Bernie wins I will support him.
If Bernie wins I will support him.
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If you think is honest for the media to deceive people to vote for a candidate by giving such candidate endorsements and enthusiastic editorials which ignore the corruption of such candidate because that is "practical" Then I guess Trump is the most deserving candidate
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As usual, President is speaking the truth. As usual, people are furious about that.
Sanders cannot realistically make up Clinton's lead of over 300 pledged delegates. (And no, Superdelegates have nothing to do with this.) . Clinton will be the nominee. The likely Republcan nominee is an enormous threat to our democracy. He MUST be defeated. Prolonged infighting among Democrats is deeply damaging to that effort.
Since Sanders has forsaken his vow not to have a negative campaign, and has instead been impugning Clinton's character at every step, he is helping Republicans.
As Sanders is not a Democrat and has made it clear his only concern is himself, it's unlikely he'll do the statesmanlike thing - but he should.
Sanders cannot realistically make up Clinton's lead of over 300 pledged delegates. (And no, Superdelegates have nothing to do with this.) . Clinton will be the nominee. The likely Republcan nominee is an enormous threat to our democracy. He MUST be defeated. Prolonged infighting among Democrats is deeply damaging to that effort.
Since Sanders has forsaken his vow not to have a negative campaign, and has instead been impugning Clinton's character at every step, he is helping Republicans.
As Sanders is not a Democrat and has made it clear his only concern is himself, it's unlikely he'll do the statesmanlike thing - but he should.
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How convenient it's been for these Sanders supporters to start 'feeling the bern', considering they didn't know Bernie Sanders from Colonel Sanders a year ago. It wasn't until they got wind of some politician in Vermont saying he wanted to grant a free college education for everyone at state colleges. And boy did they start 'feeling the bern' when they started talking it up that he'd have to absolve their student loan debt altogether just to be fair. How convenient.
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If that's all you think the reason is for supporting Bernie Sanders, then you don't know anything about him. I suggest you do some research. We don't need free college. We need an economy that works for everybody and REAL environmental protection.
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I voted for Obama twice - 2008 and 2012. I do not regret it one bit. However, I stopped listening to him a long time ago. So I will keep supporting Bernie. I am not one of those wealthy donors he is addressing anyway.
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Obama's sneaky, private comments about the presidential primaries at a $33K per person fat donor fundraiser has made my decision for me. I will vote for Bernie in CA in June. I will never vote for Hillary Clinton. Beyond the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils, I am not convinced Trump would be the lesser of two evils in a Trump-Clinton match up. if she gets the Dem Nod, she'll have to win without my vote.
(Who does that $33K per person money benefit? Does it go to the DNC, which has treated Bernie so shabbily and has withheld basic respect from Bernie?)
(Who does that $33K per person money benefit? Does it go to the DNC, which has treated Bernie so shabbily and has withheld basic respect from Bernie?)
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Good for you !!!
Shame on you, Mr. President. But I still believe you twice earned, and got my vote.
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Bernie is authentic only if you forget the promises he makes that he cannot possibly keep, which makes him a liar. He has to know that a president cannot offer free college or break up big banks without a plurality of people of like minds in both houses.
Bernie reminds me of Creflo Dollar and his promises of riches if you donate to his church.
Bernie reminds me of Creflo Dollar and his promises of riches if you donate to his church.
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He also knows he can't overturn Citizens United, which is not within a president's power to overturn, and yet he keeps promising he will.
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I guess this means we now know the fix is in for the email indictment.
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Thank you President Obama for doing more than anyone else possibly could do to help Sen Sanders. I am a Bernie supporter, and I approved this message.
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What?
While I admit that I will vote for the woman, if she gets the nomination, it will only be because I don't see a sane Republican option. Let me fantasize about how things should be, and hope for a better future for a while longer. Stay, Bernie!
I saw local e-mails with similar messages to unite before the Missouri primary, and really appreciated having the opportunity to vote for Bernie Sanders. If someone else wants to, its their choice! Isn't it a right?
While I admit that I will vote for the woman, if she gets the nomination, it will only be because I don't see a sane Republican option. Let me fantasize about how things should be, and hope for a better future for a while longer. Stay, Bernie!
I saw local e-mails with similar messages to unite before the Missouri primary, and really appreciated having the opportunity to vote for Bernie Sanders. If someone else wants to, its their choice! Isn't it a right?
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If it's President Cruz or President Trump it will be because DEMS failed to unite or didn't bother to vote. That's really what it comes down to.
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Yes, Mr. President, it is time for all corporate Democrats to unite behind the only candidate who can solidify oligarchy.
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C'mon you guys. You heard her Victory Screech Tuesday night. All this campaigning against a pretend candidate is wearing out The Woman Who Cares and when she's tired she starts yelling at the top of her lungs in the most unappealing manner. It's going to Take A Village to defeat Trump and you can't expect MoveOn and Soros to do all the heavy lifting. The Bern was never going to win with the Party's finger on the scales and really, there is no one better suited to defend Our Dear Leader's legacy of a roaring Recovery Summer and the Nobel Prize Winning foreign policy triumphs he has racked up than the woman who engineered our Libya achievement without losing a single American life. So stop watching those hateful videos, roll up your sleeves and lets go bankrupt some coal miners, together!
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That's so funny. All I hear in the debates is a curmudgeon man barking. I am amazed you are so sensitized to Hillary's "screaming". Have you watched any of the debates?
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"she starts yelling at the top of her lungs in the most unappealing manner", when men do this, as they always do when campaigning, it would never get this type of response. I'm sure you mean well, but its 2016 - this is sexist beyond belief.
When the NYT will publish an article about how Obama became President because of Penny Pritzker, a spokeswoman of the American financial elite. She met him in Chicago and since they already knew the 2008 crisis would happen at least since 2006, she told Obama she could make him a president because the financial elite needed someone who could bail them out while protecting them behind a hope smokescreen (the first black president, a democrat etc.).
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interesting idea
Clearly no black man coulda made it by hisself: this would be your point?
Shameful.
Shameful.
President Obama, now if we end up with a President Trump, it really will be your fault! Why did you do this?
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He's safeguarding his legacy.
Since Bernie does not take donor money, I am unsure why this comment from Obama was needed. They were giving to Hillary to begin with. It is foolish on his part to wade in to the campaign. He should be neutral.
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they were fundraising for the general election. Against republican nominee.
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it is not exactly foolish, it is smart, but malicious.
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Well, yeah.
"Please be careful about the argument that Hillary can only beat Bernie in states that vote red in the general election. That's not very different from saying Democratic votes in red states do not matter."
Democratic votes in red states DON'T matter, just as Republican votes in blue states don't matter.
"Please be careful about the argument that Hillary can only beat Bernie in states that vote red in the general election. That's not very different from saying Democratic votes in red states do not matter."
Democratic votes in red states DON'T matter, just as Republican votes in blue states don't matter.
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Hillary has decisively won the Confederate States of America which always go Republican with Virginia and North Carolina either way.
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Good grief... what's the rush? Let the entire Democratic Party have it's primary. In 2008 Hillary waited until June to drop out of the race... and it worked out fine for Democrats.
Enough with these moronic chants for everyone to "UNIFY OR DIE" when half the country hasn't even voted in primaries yet. There will be time enough for the party to unify (or not) after the Democratic Convention in July.
Rushing constituants (especially Bernie Sanders's very enthusiastic supporters) is only going to ruffle some feathers (that are already ruffled enough). If the party elite is trying to win over a large disenfranchised contingent - one that doesn't trust Hillary already - rushing them to "step in line" is a lousy way to unify the party.
Enough with these moronic chants for everyone to "UNIFY OR DIE" when half the country hasn't even voted in primaries yet. There will be time enough for the party to unify (or not) after the Democratic Convention in July.
Rushing constituants (especially Bernie Sanders's very enthusiastic supporters) is only going to ruffle some feathers (that are already ruffled enough). If the party elite is trying to win over a large disenfranchised contingent - one that doesn't trust Hillary already - rushing them to "step in line" is a lousy way to unify the party.
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I think if Bernie were to drop out of the race, not something I want, Hillary would be sidelined to the back waters of the election, off the front page. I don't think that is the path to take. To argue that this would be to start the fight against Trump is a bit weak. The Republicans can and will do Trump a lot more damage than Hillary could ever dream of. There is a lack of circumspection in this call to coalesce behind Hillary at this time in the process. Plus the fact that this call will inevitably fall on the deaf ears of independent thinkers who care little about the comments coming from paid boosters of the Hillary camp and the establishment media.
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Hopefully we are seeing the end of the democratic party. The progressives need to split from the fawning fence sitters and big business stooges.
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I recall that at some point, someone asked HRC if Bernie ought to "suspend." She deflected the question, and pointed out that she had remained in late in `08. Good for her! She answered wisely, where BHO put his foot in his mouth.
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The first Clinton administration showed us that Democrats can be the same grade of paid-for politician as Republicans. Obama is speaking to the people who really matter to getting the nomination and winning elected office: wealthy campaign donors. How sad is it that the populist candidate with the most victories this primary season is a Republican billionaire?
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Maybe, but at least the country got its money's worth under Clinton.
As soon as President Obama went to Springfield, Missouri to declare his candidacy for President and I knew he had been against the war in Iraq I put a sticker on my car and began to work for him, donate, and comment. Hillary Clinton came in as the presumptive nominee. Obama was one of seven men and they were called The Seven Dwarfs to her as Snow White. The articles in the press were focused on her and the dwarfs were just backdrop. She was winning and would have won had not Oprah Winfry not gone to South Carolina to back his candidacy. Later, Ted Kennedy backed him and in the end he won of course. How would he have felt if the Democratic establishment so evidently backed her the way they are backing her today? Had it not been for Oprah he would not have been nominated because the African American vote was for Hillary. Many of them considered not black enough.
Now he's taking the same unfair stance that the democrats took when he first ran as a candidate. I am so disappointed in him and even angry. I feel betrayed by him.
Now he's taking the same unfair stance that the democrats took when he first ran as a candidate. I am so disappointed in him and even angry. I feel betrayed by him.
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What's the one way to guarantee the defeat of Trump if he's nominated? Clinton should name Kasich as her VP. As Gov., Kasich will witness first hand, in his own Cleveland, what Carl Bernstein calls Trump's neo-fascist incitements, including trying to "barricade" Kasich the candidate from the convention.Ohio will once again vote for Kasich (as Democratic/Independent VP), and no Republican has ever won the presidency without Ohio.
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it's a shame the President hasn't followed the example of Senator Warren.
The President is not speaking to me or contributors like me who donate at the $50 level when I donate at all. I feel sure that the millions of donors who make up Senator Sanders base of support feel the dame.
The President is not speaking to me or contributors like me who donate at the $50 level when I donate at all. I feel sure that the millions of donors who make up Senator Sanders base of support feel the dame.
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Mr Obama doesn't want to alienate liberal voters? Guess what: he alienated most of us long ago. For all of his poise and gravitas (both of which have made me immensely proud) President Obama has been far, far too moderate for my tastes. I am certain that I am not the only American liberal who feels that way.
Hillary is to the right of Obama. That is what made her a non-starter for me in 2008, and it is what makes her a non0starter for my now.
Hillary is to the right of Obama. That is what made her a non-starter for me in 2008, and it is what makes her a non0starter for my now.
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One wonders how many of the posters yelling at Obama for telling the truth here are working for Karl Rove at American Crossroads.
The amount of misogyny aimed at Hillary Clinton, and the recitation of the typical right-wing slurs against the President, suggests that it's around half.
The amount of misogyny aimed at Hillary Clinton, and the recitation of the typical right-wing slurs against the President, suggests that it's around half.
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Whether you are a Republican or a Democrat, we should be bothered that a sitting president or the NYTs would attempt to sway a nomination that could still go either way (even if the going is tough for one or the other candidate).
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I could not agree more. No real Democrats here.
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I suspect they are working a bank of terminals in the basement of Mar-a-lago upon threat of a call to the INS
What hold do the Clintons have over you, President Obama, that you should shill for her at the time when only half the states have voted?
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This is a disgrace.
Of course Obama will tell people to support Hillary - Obama is bought by the establishment. It is sad that Bernie cannot call out Obama for what he is, namely ca centre-right sellout who refuses to do what needs to be done. Obama ran on Single Payer Healthcare - it was a plank in the Democratic Party platform in 2008.
Now? Silence.
I am disgusted with the Democratic Party. I have been a Democrat ALL MY LIFE. Ever since I voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. I am ashamed and dismayed at what has become of my party.
Of course Obama will tell people to support Hillary - Obama is bought by the establishment. It is sad that Bernie cannot call out Obama for what he is, namely ca centre-right sellout who refuses to do what needs to be done. Obama ran on Single Payer Healthcare - it was a plank in the Democratic Party platform in 2008.
Now? Silence.
I am disgusted with the Democratic Party. I have been a Democrat ALL MY LIFE. Ever since I voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. I am ashamed and dismayed at what has become of my party.
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The reason we have Trump in the lead is that the Republican leadership didn't take charge and bring out the big hook six months ago. The Democratic party don't want to end up divided and wounded, and feel getting behind Secretary Clinton at this point is a good strategy for a November win. A lot is at stake this time, including the horror of a potential President Trump and the nightmarish SCOTUS appointments he might come up with.
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But the Democratic Party IS divided. The increase in those registering as Independent is precisely because the Democratic Party no longer represents many of us. You can blame the blue-dogs, i.e., the Clinton machine.
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The horror of Clinton redux outweighs all other scenarios. No thanks.
This is reporting from the NYT? Heresay, "reportedly"? As a headline? More like the NY Post, or the Washington Post, which at least don't make the pretense of being the paper of record. Disgraceful for allowing this to leak--Obama, and/or manufacturing this leak--NY Times and Obama.
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I cannot put my vote behind someone that I do not trust and it does not have to do with emails or Bengazi! She is one of the reasons the fracking industry is destroying this country and other countries in the world. Until she comes out against fracking and the fossil fuel industry she will not have my vote or the vote of anybody I know fighting this battle. She also needs to prove to me that she is not hiding behind her speeches that she did for Wall Street!!! I voted for President Obama and I really like him but he is wrong with this one!!!!
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I campaigned for Obama to the very END, at times when it was not certain that he would win. Asking Bernie to rally behind Clinton at this point is offensive.
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Nooooooo!, I'm not rallying behind her, no. Donald vs. Hillary? Oh my God, what a nightmare!
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One more reason to vote for Mr. Sanders.
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Does anyone remember 2004? The Democratic nomination could not possibly go to Howard Dean, we were told. Despite credible positions (not beholden to corporate money, consistently anti-war), abundant youth support, and, most important, a willingness to relentlessly attack President Bush where it counted, our wonderful news companies (obeyed by our informed voters) told us that Dean was a fringe candidate, "not presidential," and then elevated an enthusiastic "Yeah!" into a "scream" that destroyed his campaign overnight. No, no - it couldn't be Dean. The nomination had to fall to John Kerry, who had the most "presidential" profile, the most "electable" resume, the centrist positions, and who would surely defeat George W. Bush in November. Kerry was the pragmatic, realistic choice.
Beware.
Beware.
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Yes, but let's not forget that John Kerry's campaign manager, and the architect of the marginalization of Dean that you imply ruined the Democratic party's chances in 2004 was a man named Tad Devine.
Tad Devine is now Bernie Sanders campaign manager, and from the sounds of some of these comments, he's back to his old scorched Earth tactics again.
So yes, beware.
Tad Devine is now Bernie Sanders campaign manager, and from the sounds of some of these comments, he's back to his old scorched Earth tactics again.
So yes, beware.
At this point, for the President to 'quietly tell donors' anything is uncalled for, and wrong. Both candidates should anticipate, and in fact be expected, to stay in the race at least till ALL states have had their Primary ballots counted. We on the West Coast haven't yet had the opportunity to vote, and to disregard even one vote for the sake of expediency is to undermine the very underlying principle of democracy by the people. Further, to compare Sanders message to GW Bush's 'authenticity' is downright laughable.
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Wow..enough of this nonsense that Bernie will damage Clinton by pointing out her true colors, and weakening her against the GOP candidate. The GOP already has plenty on her to convince their voters. Do you think they don't?
Plus, look at all the dirty politics Clinton has played in smearing Sanders. Things that are demonstrable untrue....like his support for the auto bailout, that he'll repeal Obamacare, where was he when Clinton tried to push health reform during her husbans administration (standing right behind her, actually. There's video proof).
Private email servers to hide her communications, huge payoffs from banks for speeches where she wants us to believe she criticized them....
So this is the kind of integrity and experience you want? I finally have an opportunity for someone who thinks the way I do, and it isn't her.
Hillary...didn't want her in 2008, don't want her in 2016 either.
Plus, look at all the dirty politics Clinton has played in smearing Sanders. Things that are demonstrable untrue....like his support for the auto bailout, that he'll repeal Obamacare, where was he when Clinton tried to push health reform during her husbans administration (standing right behind her, actually. There's video proof).
Private email servers to hide her communications, huge payoffs from banks for speeches where she wants us to believe she criticized them....
So this is the kind of integrity and experience you want? I finally have an opportunity for someone who thinks the way I do, and it isn't her.
Hillary...didn't want her in 2008, don't want her in 2016 either.
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Odd how so many Bernie supporters, claiming to be more knowledgable and capable of critical thinking, fall for the RNC and Fox talking points about Clinton. Stop reading RNC propaganda and listening to Fox and do some real research.
Look at who was fighting an honourable and difficult battle for universal healthcare in the US back in the early nineties. Look at some of her other accomplishments from sources other than Republicans. Sure she;s made mistakes. You can't be in the public eye and expected to have a position on everything vote 25 plus years and not have been wrong sometimes.
If you think Hillary is so flawed, wait until you see what the RNC and Trump do to Bernie when they set their sites on him. You are going to be so disappointed in your candidate if you put as much store in the RNC attacks on Bernie as you do in their attacks on Hillary.
Look at who was fighting an honourable and difficult battle for universal healthcare in the US back in the early nineties. Look at some of her other accomplishments from sources other than Republicans. Sure she;s made mistakes. You can't be in the public eye and expected to have a position on everything vote 25 plus years and not have been wrong sometimes.
If you think Hillary is so flawed, wait until you see what the RNC and Trump do to Bernie when they set their sites on him. You are going to be so disappointed in your candidate if you put as much store in the RNC attacks on Bernie as you do in their attacks on Hillary.
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Where is Edmonton?
A lot of their attacks have basis, but most.of.our problems are with her constant flip flopping, her history, and how she has supported ninety percent.of the most.damaging pieces of legislation since she was first lady. She may not have had a vote then, but she was vocally supportive of Nafta and helped promote it. She voted for the Iraq war. She voted against DOMA. She has a racist history from statements about african american youth to her campaign against Obama. She accepts millions from mega wealthy corporation owners and supports their agendas. And in the nineties when she was fighting for healthcare for kids, Bernie was there helping. She even publicly acknowledged him for it back then. Everything she claims to be for now, Bernie has been for, and has a record of fighting for. #Bernieorbust. No more corporate puppets!
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