I would like to know how a RINO establishment candidate like Rubio goes from 12% in most polls only a day away from the Iowa caucus to 23% on caucus day? Oh, I forgot! Microsoft was counting the votes! Microsoft just only happens to be Rubio's #1 Donor. How convenient!
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The criticism of Bernie Sanders seems pretty consistent. He wants to convert America from a monstrously corrupt theme park for the ultra-rich into a respectable democracy with genuine opportunity for the middle class and that's just "unrealistic."
The tragedy is that this criticism is probably accurate.
The tragedy is that this criticism is probably accurate.
V,
The truth with humanity is that you can't start down the road to central-state control of a nation and then just stop. The people who started Russia on its way to Soviet communism sounded EXACTLY like Bernie. Hitler's fans saw him doing exactly what sorts of things Bernie promises.
Move away from capitalism, a free choice on the marketplace and personal liberties voluntarily - even with a sweet, harmless little guy like Trotsky or Bernie - and you end up ruled by monsters.
To see the current stop Denmark is making, google the term Manipulism.
The truth with humanity is that you can't start down the road to central-state control of a nation and then just stop. The people who started Russia on its way to Soviet communism sounded EXACTLY like Bernie. Hitler's fans saw him doing exactly what sorts of things Bernie promises.
Move away from capitalism, a free choice on the marketplace and personal liberties voluntarily - even with a sweet, harmless little guy like Trotsky or Bernie - and you end up ruled by monsters.
To see the current stop Denmark is making, google the term Manipulism.
Ted Cruz is the perfect embodiment of the modern Republican Party. I hope he goes on to win the nomination.
“To God be the glory.” Yes Mr. Cruz I hope you remember God when you speak with such anger and malice. "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks; when evil resides in the heart, it will be exposed in perverse speech."
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Amen to that
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Cruz had the advantage in Iowa largely as a result of Iowa being very evangelical. That said, Iowa will not be the sole indicator for determining who will win the Republican primary. I'm not big on the Republican candidates, but hopefully Cruz will beat Trump in the end; at least Cruz won't ban people from entering the US for being Muslim, right?
that's no worse than "God Bless America" or "In God We Trust", which were added to our pledge and as our motto in the anti-communist era of the 1950's. It's only gotten more rabid!
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Why is it that no reporter has gone to Cuba to really dig into the Cruz family background. What do we know about them?
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All the news outlets are omitting the most central thing that led to Cruz's win in heavily Evangelical Iowa: ABORTION. That is the MOST important thing in their minds--to end ABORTION in the U.S. They see it as legalized genocide and every other cause takes second place to that, especially in the days following the legal defeat Planned Parenthood (Aushwitz to them) dealt to those scheming religious zealots. Taking that into account, Trump's strong second place in Evangelical Iowa is nothing less than remarkable.
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As someone who would have loved "The Donald" to have won the Republican nomination so Hillary could have dominated him in a one-on-one debate I must lament: "Forgetaboutit he's done".
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I wish liberals would stop complaining about Trump. The more publicity he gets and the further he goes, the better. If he wins the Republican nomination, he'll likely get destroyed in the general election and if by some fluke he wins, he'd still be orders of magnitude LESS terrifying than any other Republican candidate, especially Cruz, whose lunacy might very well start a nuclear war within 2 weeks of taking office.
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When Cruz says "To God be the glory," he's not merely pandering to the evangelicals; he's claiming a divine endorsement.
This is a genuinely dangerous man.
This is a genuinely dangerous man.
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“To God be the glory,” Mr. Cruz told ...
It's bad enough when they think God cares about football. But, when they think He cares about American politics, in all their moral corruption, it really is depressing.
It's bad enough when they think God cares about football. But, when they think He cares about American politics, in all their moral corruption, it really is depressing.
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I wish people would really wake up and get scared... Trump wants to "shut down" Muslim immigration/visits to a country that was founded on freedom of religion and build a wall with our neighbor to the south. Cruz wants to "carpet bomb" Syria and see if he can "make the sand glow".
Bernie is Trump, but instead of talking about walls and illegals he is saying, "I will make college free and forgive your student loans! And I'll make Wall Street pay for it!"
It is a sad state of affairs when pragmatists like Kasich, Clinton, Bush, and Christie are getting booed for making things happen and not being "pure" enough either left or right.
Bernie is Trump, but instead of talking about walls and illegals he is saying, "I will make college free and forgive your student loans! And I'll make Wall Street pay for it!"
It is a sad state of affairs when pragmatists like Kasich, Clinton, Bush, and Christie are getting booed for making things happen and not being "pure" enough either left or right.
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So Bernie's efforts to hold the Wall Street crooks to account and put America's massive wealth in the service of a better society is the same in your book as Trump's racist lunacies?
I feel bad for you.
I feel bad for you.
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Never having run for office & with no experience in the public sector, Donald Trump hardly "lost" Iowa. He has one fewer delegate than Cruz.
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Cruz's win is, indeed, the result of evangelicals flocking to his radical theocratic policies and views, It merely mimics Huckster Huckabee's '08 win and Santorum's '12 win; each went nowhere fast. And Trump's know-nothing will wear thin in the months ahead. Rubio's exercise of both sides of his mouth influenced by prevailing winds will also prove unsettling. There really is no one else except Kasich and Bloomberg. If Bloomberg enters the race, he will win. And he has the best chance of defeating Hillary. His personal wealth and business acumen far exceed Trump's. And while age may be a factor, it hasn't hurt Hillary nor Bernie. I do have a suggestion for Cruz's campaign director: try to enlist Rep. Brat of Virginia, the troll who defeated Eric Cantor and who worships Ayn Rand more than the Virgin Mary. He would ensure support from the Freedom Caucus and the aging white supremacist vote.
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Rubio has a quick mind, with a hodge podge of a perspective on the world of common sense and reactionary beliefs, and a tiny database of knowledge and experience. When he gets on stage with Clinton or Sanders, he will sound good but his arguments will be rickety because he mixes plausible ideas with unsound ones without seeming to understand that he's doing it, and both Clinton and Sanders the flaws in his thinking. The only rational candidates in the Republican field are all polling in the single digits.
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A quick mind? The guy who claims that he can't tell one credit card from another?
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When will people like Cruz, Rubio and majority of our oh-so pious good Christians running for office stop the buttering up to the faith voters of this nation, the very faithful ones who want to 'take our country back', but back from Enlightenment era of our Founding Fathers into the Dark Ages. The only exception to this rule seems to be Gov. Kasich.
Should Bernie Sander become the candidate of the Democrats, a self declared socialist Democrat, and a Jewish one to boot, they will even get crazier than they have been all along.
Only in America, the only country that I know off having enshrined in its constitution that there be no religious test for elected office, one of our two parties is happily endorsing the very concept of a religious test.
And these hypocrites constantly claim that President Obama has been 'shredding' the Constitution, while they have been at it for years.
Should Bernie Sander become the candidate of the Democrats, a self declared socialist Democrat, and a Jewish one to boot, they will even get crazier than they have been all along.
Only in America, the only country that I know off having enshrined in its constitution that there be no religious test for elected office, one of our two parties is happily endorsing the very concept of a religious test.
And these hypocrites constantly claim that President Obama has been 'shredding' the Constitution, while they have been at it for years.
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I can't stand that kind of pandering either, but every candidate has a choice as to run his campaign. That's freedom, too.
and can you remember, please, that communism is not the same as socialism or perhaps you haven't figured that out yet? Are you compassionate or are you greedy?
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Cruz Deals Trump a Humbling Loss ~ Did not. No more than Clinton beat Sanders. Is it not disgusting how our press has to turn everything into a cross between soap opera and a WWF spectacle?
The media ring announcers desperately seek to create drama in depicting our national embarrassment. The fact is that Iowa is close to irrelevant
The media ring announcers desperately seek to create drama in depicting our national embarrassment. The fact is that Iowa is close to irrelevant
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After the Donald's decisive defeat in Iowa, will the Media finally stop hanging onto Trump's every word he espouses and every tweet?
The Media should finally stop giving the "Donald" free air time and force him to pay for advertisement just like all the other candidates.
As a registered voter who votes in all the elections, I for one am sick and tired of wall to wall, daily coverage of every thought that the "Donald" burps from his mouth. I'm sure there are many other voters of like mind,
The Media should finally stop giving the "Donald" free air time and force him to pay for advertisement just like all the other candidates.
As a registered voter who votes in all the elections, I for one am sick and tired of wall to wall, daily coverage of every thought that the "Donald" burps from his mouth. I'm sure there are many other voters of like mind,
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He got 7 delegates to Cruz's 8. I can't stand the guy, but that is far from a "decisive defeat."
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I'm not a Trump guy, but that was hardly humbling. We all know that Iowa doesn't mean much. Trump was gracious in coming in second (you'd think from the headline he came in last) and at least he didn't give a victory speech like Rubio. No one can really predict anything, but I think Trump is going to win every state except Texas regardless who stays in the race.
Now O'Malley, Gilmore, some others - that was humbling.
Now O'Malley, Gilmore, some others - that was humbling.
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Cruz beat Trump but it's far from over, and Rubio could be the benefactor. The Republicans cannot win with Cruz or Rubio as their top spot nominees. Trump's strength is his ability to speak what his audience already thinks, not his genius as a potential world leader, but he could master the media enough to win. It looks like the White House is the Democrats to lose in 2016.
And a Trump-Rubio ticket would cover many bases - and bring over many, many crossover Democrats who retch at the idea of Hillary occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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I know this isn't really meaningful, but has it occurred to anyone that the erstwhile loser of the Democratic Caucuses, Bernie Sanders, got something like 33,000 more votes than the winner of the Republican Caucuses?
That's right. 49.6% of 171,000 Democrats is well over 84,000 votes. Cruz got well over 51,000.
I'm fascinated by this, though I know it doesn't really mean much.
That's right. 49.6% of 171,000 Democrats is well over 84,000 votes. Cruz got well over 51,000.
I'm fascinated by this, though I know it doesn't really mean much.
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There were also three Democrats running, as opposed to 12 GOP. Apples and oranges.
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Yes, I know that. Yet only 4 of the 12 or 13 actually registered on the radar, as did only 2 of the Democrats.
I just find it fascinating that despite the buzz and excitement of the GOP primary and the exultation of a record breaking turnout, vs the Dems "low" turnout, the difference in size wasn't much, and the 2 leaders pulled in far more votes relativistically and actively than the Republican leaders.
I just find it fascinating that despite the buzz and excitement of the GOP primary and the exultation of a record breaking turnout, vs the Dems "low" turnout, the difference in size wasn't much, and the 2 leaders pulled in far more votes relativistically and actively than the Republican leaders.
Much ado about nothing. Iowa is a nice state but their political views are out of step with the rest of the nation. Since 1976, Iowa has rarely picked the eventual Presidential winner as shown by the article below. Cruz is similar to the last GOP winner in Iowa, Rick Santorum. Winning Iowa did not help Santorum and may mean Cruz is also out of step with the views of most American voters.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/examining-iowa-caucus-track-record-predic...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/examining-iowa-caucus-track-record-predic...
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I have read one article stating that Mr Cruz was born in Canada. His mother is a US citizen so he is a citizen, but he was not born in the US! After hearing Republicans say stupid things about President Obama for at least eight years; I would hope that some one will get the issue definitively settled before the GOP primary election goes further.
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The important thing is that Iowans feel empowered by clearly voting for the candidate of their choice who will go to Washington and liwer taxes on the rich !
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I understand why Iowa kicks off this process, but practically speaking, they seem irrelevant as a realistic prognostication tool. Iowa is absolutely dependent on taxpayer-funded corn subsidies and, paradoxically, is white, heavily evangelical, and conservative with the attendant narrative for small government. Maybe it's time to give this less state of a focus in the proceedings.
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Trump took one on the chin and this was expected. If Trump loses New Hampshire- he's out. However, if he takes New Hampshire and SC- He'll go all the way and a disenfranchised GOP will battle between Cruz and Rubio to fend off a Trump Presidency. As crazy as he is- voters want change and they are willing to hedge their bets on Trump. Neither Cruz or Rubio are offering anything other than the heavy baggage of Republicanism and its' miserable track record.
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So Cruz got the support of a majority of Republican Evangelicals in Iowa. Whoopty-do. Let us see how he fares in New Hampshire - I guarantee he will end up with several torpedos in his boiler room. As for Trump - considering his background he fared very well in Iowa. A tight loss will be good for him - it will make him be a bit more serious in conducting his campaign. He is still the prohibitive Republican favorite to get the nomination barring a total implosion of his campaign. It will be so nice to watch country-club Republicans choke on their coffee. Trump will also bring over many, many crossover Democrats to whom the idea of Hillary in the White House is an abomination.
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We should at least make our national elections fulfill the standards of public schools: publicly funded, controls on prayer and expressions of religion, and those who profess to lead (administrators and teachers) fulfill certain educational requirements. Our leaders should have to demonstrate sufficient knowledge of economics, civics, history... and psychological and emotional stability, to qualify. Many candidates on the Republican side would fail on the basics.
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There are too many "flavors" of the Republican party. If the Republicans want to win the White House, they're going to have to line up their values and beliefs so that the Republican voters' votes are not diluted into such a way that people like Cruz come out as the front runner. I'm sure you could beg to differ and say that about Trump just the same. All these other (R) candidates who are making up less than 10% of the vote need to bow out and endorse a champion.
Am I wrong in seeing Cruz and Rubio as opportunists, cynically capitalizing on evangelicals? How are these candidates ethically any different than the discredited televangelists of the past? Or is it me who's cynical?
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IMO Iowa is a "bad data point" for Trump -- New Hampshire and subsequent states will determine if Donald Trump's supporters are "real." It is one thing for Trump supporters -- many who have been described/determined as being not highly involved in the election process -- to skip an intense and full night of caucusing in Iowa. But the upcoming normal primaries will tell the real story imo, where all you have to do is show up and cast a private ballot in the span of a few minutes.
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Hilarious to read all the silly liberals spouting their 'fury' and 'rage'. If you have any right to be angry, liberal Democrats, you should be angry at yourselves. You have chosen to derail the Democrat Party, sending in people like Hilary and Bernie to represent you.
You have succeeded in doing what no Republican could do. You have disconnected your party from the lives of mainstream Americans, making ANY Republican candidate look good in the process.
Thanks.
You have succeeded in doing what no Republican could do. You have disconnected your party from the lives of mainstream Americans, making ANY Republican candidate look good in the process.
Thanks.
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Really? Mainstream Americans don't care about wages, health care and education? Mainstream Americans don't want clean air and water and a safe place to live and work?
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"Really? Mainstream Americans don't care about wages, health care and education? Mainstream Americans don't want clean air and water and a safe place to live and work?"
Of course they don't. If they did, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II could never get more than 8 votes in the entire country.
Americans care about new weapons systems, stuffing the pockets of the 1% and heaping contempt on immigrants.
Of course they don't. If they did, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II could never get more than 8 votes in the entire country.
Americans care about new weapons systems, stuffing the pockets of the 1% and heaping contempt on immigrants.
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION means that politicians pursuing a "religious vote" of any kind and people voting based on religious beliefs are not upholding OUR Constitution of the United States of America. As soon as Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton becomes OUR President and we have a socially conscious, religion-cleansed U.S. Congress WE must DEMAND that any organization or person that involves religion in politics must be stripped of non-profit status and/or be ousted from office. It is NOT acceptable. WE do not want to live in a radical christian-run, Muslim hating country.
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Seperation of church and state is not in the Constitution. There is an establishment clause and a free exercise clause in the first amendment. If you can point out a seperation clause I am all ears.
Larry,
Amendment I of the Constitution of the United States contains both clauses--the establishment clause and the free exercise clause, which combined are in the Bill of Rights establishing separation of church and state.
Of course njglea is wrong about everything else--namely Hillary Clinton winning the election, unless the Republicans truly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and push Rubio as the nominee.
As a matter of law, the 1st Amendment does NOT "cleanse" the United States of religion, it in fact, facilitates it, as the founders intended. Njglea is upset, the Obama presidency is over, Americans have turned the page, and the days of the two bit, effeminate con artist who failed to organize the American community are fading away.
Amendment I of the Constitution of the United States contains both clauses--the establishment clause and the free exercise clause, which combined are in the Bill of Rights establishing separation of church and state.
Of course njglea is wrong about everything else--namely Hillary Clinton winning the election, unless the Republicans truly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and push Rubio as the nominee.
As a matter of law, the 1st Amendment does NOT "cleanse" the United States of religion, it in fact, facilitates it, as the founders intended. Njglea is upset, the Obama presidency is over, Americans have turned the page, and the days of the two bit, effeminate con artist who failed to organize the American community are fading away.
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I am not a constitutional scholar or lawyer, Larry Gr, but I was raised to know that I had a right to worship however I chose because I live in America - not the Vatican or China.
And if Trump loses the nomination - 3rd party candidate?
I don't accept the narrative of political pundits that Trump came out a loser
and Rubio a winner. The fact is that Trump came in second and Rubio third. As far as I'm concerned, Cruz won the gold medal, Trump the silver and Rubio the bronze. They were all winners. The losers were all the other candidates who failed to get even 10% of the vote.
Given how many Republicans in Iowa are evangelical and very conservative,
I think Trump did pretty well. Especially for someone who never ran for political office before. It's only because Trump didn't do as well as polls
predicted and Rubio did better than predicted, that this narrative about
Trump suffering a humiliating defeat is being told. But I still say finishing
in second place is better than third place, regardless of what the experts'
and pollsters' predictions and expectations are.
and Rubio a winner. The fact is that Trump came in second and Rubio third. As far as I'm concerned, Cruz won the gold medal, Trump the silver and Rubio the bronze. They were all winners. The losers were all the other candidates who failed to get even 10% of the vote.
Given how many Republicans in Iowa are evangelical and very conservative,
I think Trump did pretty well. Especially for someone who never ran for political office before. It's only because Trump didn't do as well as polls
predicted and Rubio did better than predicted, that this narrative about
Trump suffering a humiliating defeat is being told. But I still say finishing
in second place is better than third place, regardless of what the experts'
and pollsters' predictions and expectations are.
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@Allen Nelson: You are right. But the pundits have to make a living and their way is to present various convolutions of the given event. If they wrote the obvious simple truth you did, they would not get paid.
The pundits have to make a living?
According to what law?
If every political pundit in America covering the 2016 GOP race were graded on a merit based scale, they'd all be in the unemployment line.
According to what law?
If every political pundit in America covering the 2016 GOP race were graded on a merit based scale, they'd all be in the unemployment line.
@DCBarrister: Merit base scale? We can't use it here or many other so called professions; the unemployment lines would be too long and our treasury exhausted too fast.
Waiting for the media to stop staring at their poll numbers and crunchy analysis and do some serious reporting about real issues and real lives. You might even find that the American people are smarter, savvier, and more complex than you think.
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Senator Cruz should enjoy this win. He may not have another. Evangelicals may have some sway in Iowa, but they are no longer enough of a block to elect a president.
It may have been a close win for Secretary/Senator/First Lady Clinton, but she will win the nomination and be the nation's first female president.
As an independent I'm not really happy with the choices this year. While I understand his decision, I regret that Vice President Biden isn't running.
It may have been a close win for Secretary/Senator/First Lady Clinton, but she will win the nomination and be the nation's first female president.
As an independent I'm not really happy with the choices this year. While I understand his decision, I regret that Vice President Biden isn't running.
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Cruz is no Huckabee or Santorum. He made a good point this morning that Huckabee and Santorum came out of Iowa with no money in the bank. He currently has more money than Rubio, Bush and Kasich combined. That means he will be a very strong player to to at least mid-march. This year is different and a little scary.
Really. How much money did Trump spend in Iowa? Any?
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So the guy with the most campaign cash is the winner? What would Rodney say about that? The point is that Cruz did little better than either Trump or Rubio on a state the is evangelical central station.
The Los Angeles Times, another liberal newspaper that isn't sounding nearly as cataclysmic as the rabid anti-Trump NYT published a chart showing Trump spent $73 dollars per vote in Iowa with ad buys.
Jeb Bush spent over $2500 dollars per vote with ad buys, Rubio spent around $120, with the RNC picking up the tab with a cash infusion into the Rubio campaign last week.
Jeb Bush spent over $2500 dollars per vote with ad buys, Rubio spent around $120, with the RNC picking up the tab with a cash infusion into the Rubio campaign last week.
Eet real fellas and gals on the political desk. Cruz didn't triumph. He eked out a small margin of victory over Trump and Rubio, all of whom are within five points of each other in a state that has chosen such winners as Huckabee and Santorum in the not too distant past. That's not a victory. More like the skin of Mr. Cruz's teeth in a state that prefers its political meat a dark red.
And Clinton only barely got a few extra votes over Sanders. Again nothing she should, or should her endorsers, crow too loudly about. That's not a victory. It's barely face saving.
And Clinton only barely got a few extra votes over Sanders. Again nothing she should, or should her endorsers, crow too loudly about. That's not a victory. It's barely face saving.
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There is time left for people to learn much more about the candidates.
I am thankful for that!
I am thankful for that!
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A virtual tie is not a victory and in this case it's effectively a loss. Nobody in the Clinton camp is going to brag about a tie with Sanders in Iowa, or see it as saving face, after what was once a 40 point lead evaporated.
Thank goodness the good people of Iowa delivered a comeuppance to the Donald, by selecting...oh my god...Ted Cruz????
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If the Canadian fellow only got 27.6% of the corn-growing rurals, what does that mean in the national field? If we put all three right-wing opportunists together in one batch then only 25% of the Iowa population is worth campaigning for. That was precisely what happened to Huckabee. He was lost in the translation.
For those of us Republicans looking for a Commander in Chief and not a Pastor in Chief, the silver lining is that Rick Santorum won Iowa in 2012. And I'm pretty sure that Santorums picture was on more milk cartons this year than billboards in Iowa.
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Trump was just the tip of the Republican clownberg and like all clownbergs the most dangerous parts are underwater. So now we all at least know what the most dangerous parts are. Lets steer the ship of state very clear from these stupid waters.
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When asked whether he would win Iowa, Trump answered, "I'm not sure." Is anyone really that surprised? Iowa is the same state that has picked many a losing Repubcan candidate. Let's see how the cookie crumbles in New Hampshire.
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So after two hundred years + and the greatest universities in the world- this is what we have to choose from for president of the US. A woman who few find trustworthy, a man who wants the country to be more like Scandinavia, a four-time bankrupt businessman, a Baptist minister's son who speaks and believes like a fire and brimstone preacher, who wants to fight Satan, and last but not least a Cuban-American who looks and thinks like it's 1959, and who wants to fight Castro. Can't wait for this thing to settle out- probably like milk past its expiration date.
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All pretty good points, but Sanders only wants the social progressiveness of the Scandinavian countries.
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oops, meant the Donald is now in Cruz control...
Thanks for the nice thoughts jake pikar. Our election process is as crooked as the day is long. The idea that trump would be allowed to run as a republican shows the party system is a big part of our problem (G.Washington warned about parties). There were a dozen republican candidates? Really? How many different viewpoints were espoused? Two? Three?
Money and a lazy, indecent populace has thoroughly corrupted the system from top to bottom. "Throw them all out"??? With whom shall you replace them? The parties just put the next puppet up. Until voters stop voting in their own, selfish interests only, and stop voting for airbrushed candidates with 2.21 kids and a dog chosen by a consultant, you are going to see worse and worse.
Money and a lazy, indecent populace has thoroughly corrupted the system from top to bottom. "Throw them all out"??? With whom shall you replace them? The parties just put the next puppet up. Until voters stop voting in their own, selfish interests only, and stop voting for airbrushed candidates with 2.21 kids and a dog chosen by a consultant, you are going to see worse and worse.
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Cruz won 8 delegates, Trump garnered 7 (congrats to Rubio on the same), and there's a long way to go on this.
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It's frustrating that the weeding out of the GOP field begins in states with larger populations of evangelical conservative voters (Iowa & So. Carolina) who shun science and reality. A true small government, fiscal republican - one that might actually govern semi-productively rather than focus on legislating social issues - has no chance in these states when running against crazies who would rather pray on an issue than problem solving with facts. I may be a lifelong liberal, but I could at least live with a conservative president whose ultimate goal wasn't to sneakily create a theocracy where our kids' science classes become a joke, women aren't allowed to make their own healthcare decisions and freedoms are granted or revoked on the basis of adherence to a literal reading of an archaic book full of stories.
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I have to say, even though every four years, we’re told what Iowa means, that is, what Iowa doesn’t mean (something about momentum, or not), it’s hard, despite oneself, not to become caught up in the excitement yet again. The people of Iowa deserve a lot of credit, whatever you think of the results. The rest of the country still doesn’t understand how their caucuses work, why they do it that way, or how they do it without everyone showing up prepared to deliver a prepared ten-page cri de coeur, followed by fistfights. You could not have asked for a more exciting finish: a tie among Democrats and a three-way among Republicans—a rip-roaring start to the long election calendar. Every state is different, but none, except New Hampshire, gets as much lead-up attention. The candidates can’t take a day off, but we can, to enjoy this unique manifestation of American democracy.
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Another measure that somehow, in the near or distant future, we are headed toward another civil war.
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Well, since it is demonstrably clear that one doesn't have to be good at predicting in order to credibly engage in it, here's my prediction: Trump is now in Cruz control but the GOP elders will rise up as one and anoint Marco Rubio, who will slay the two-headed dragon. Meanwhile HRC will suffer the slings and arrows of Bernie the Scold but will emerge victorious and Make America Hilarious Again.
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Bravo!
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“To God be the glory,” ---Mr. Cruz
" The devil can cite scripture for his purpose."---Shakespeare
" The devil can cite scripture for his purpose."---Shakespeare
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Cruz is just the guy we need in the W.H. He'll see to it that you get the chair for stealing a quart of milk for the kids.. He is all for ''carpet bombing'' without regards for the civilians, horses, cats, dogs that are going to be ''collateral damage''.. Abe Lincoln said, ''the best way to destroy yours enemies is to make them yours friends''. Could the best way to destroy your friends is to make them your enemies be far off? Hillary voted for Iraq, and feed Kaddafi to the wolves making Libya a no mans land. Sanders voted against the Iraq tragic mistake, so the saps prefer Hillary.. And we want to know how we got in the mess where in.
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best way to destroy your friends is to make them your enemies
america excels at that
truly, theyre exceptional
america excels at that
truly, theyre exceptional
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Never saw a more perfect criticism. Congrats!
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"unconvincingly told a crowd of Iowans" ? Sorry, but after watching the speech myself I find this very rude and bias; throwing in little personal opinionated jabs like that. When I saw that speech I felt it was very sincere and it was so great to see how gracious he was to his supporters. You could see it in his face and hear it in his voice, it was genuine. I couldn't finish reading the article after I read that.
I don't care which candidate you like, from whichever party. Should still be respectful.
That goes for everyone, whatever your party affiliation, respect others opinions even if you don't agree with them. There is a reason someone believes in something. Maybe take the time to understand each other even if you don't agree, instead of ignorantly bashing each other.
I don't care which candidate you like, from whichever party. Should still be respectful.
That goes for everyone, whatever your party affiliation, respect others opinions even if you don't agree with them. There is a reason someone believes in something. Maybe take the time to understand each other even if you don't agree, instead of ignorantly bashing each other.
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Faith-based belief, by definition, has no real foundation.
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False, and your reply proves the point. Christianity is founded on the principle of the Golden Rule -- to be kind to others. It's a foundational principle that you should be able to understand and respect, which was the point of the original comment.
Bias against trump? He's bias personified.
I haven't made up my mind about Trump as a candidate, but it is inaccurate to portray him as unable to handle failure. The voters will ultimately pass judgment on whether that qualifies him to be President more than the candidates who rose within the political class, but he's made it through depressions in the real estate market that ruined like developers. That takes more than self-promotion and ego.
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I think Trump fatigue is setting in. The act is getting old.
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Cruz has zero charisma. He'll never win a general. Rubio has maybe 2% charisma. Trump at least has a little bit of charisma.
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Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina are meaningless indicators as far as presidential elections go. The primaries and caucuses only seem to exist so that news outlets have something to write about. When we start hearing about what New York voters or Ohio voters are selecting, then you can start paying attention.
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The Owas Caucuses are meaningless.
It is unfortinate that the media (including the NYT) fawn over these festivals.
Will the Donald take his marbles and go home?
Cruz is unfit to govern on a national stage.
Rubio is a complete and utter empty suit and being manipulated by his deep- pocket puppet masters.
It is highly entertaining.
It is unfortinate that the media (including the NYT) fawn over these festivals.
Will the Donald take his marbles and go home?
Cruz is unfit to govern on a national stage.
Rubio is a complete and utter empty suit and being manipulated by his deep- pocket puppet masters.
It is highly entertaining.
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I think the Cruz win is a function of the machinery of the Iowa process and as such is probably a fluke. I Think the real primaries will be own mostly by Trump.
I think a little humbling in Iowa is probably the best thing that could have happened to Trump because it facilitates turning him into a real human candidate.
I think a little humbling in Iowa is probably the best thing that could have happened to Trump because it facilitates turning him into a real human candidate.
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I'm guessing "The Donald" is regretting calling the people of Iowa "idiots" some months back. If he used the term today, one might excuse him (not).
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On the Democratic side, it's a virtual tie between the status quo and rooting out corruption and solving our problems.
And on the Republican side, Cruz appears to be the one that the prefer to send to Washington to give more tax cuts to the rich.
And on the Republican side, Cruz appears to be the one that the prefer to send to Washington to give more tax cuts to the rich.
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No, the choice is between evolution and revolution.
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Sorry but winning by a mere 3 points in a virtual 3-way tie separated by nearly the same point spread is NOT a humbling loss to Trump, anymore than HRC's virtual tie with Sanders counts as a victory for her. What IA does, in fact, show is that the fickle electorate is evenly divided yet again, for both Republicans and Democrats alike. It's going to be a long primary season; it already has been a long primary season. Save the sensationalist headlines for the real election and its aftermath NYT. Better yet, just report the numbers and give up the sensationalist headlines. American politics is unworthy of any sensationalism; it just feeds the beast.
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Direct to you from the Heartland. We are relieved, as is our postman, that the IA primary is at an end: no more onslaught of ads, phone calls, and mail. No more candidate whistle stop campaign rallies, though admittedly it was fun to see the Big Names come to town. On to other states and higher stakes. Hillary & Bernie - I wish you both well. You are stand-up people trying to do the right things. The Republican field? Wow! The intersection of the Twilight Zone meeting the 21st Century. More humor than angst in viewing them.
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What a great post. I can only imagine your relief but it sounds like you had a good attitude towards the whole thing. Best wishes.
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And you say that without irony after referring to Hillary "top secret" Clinton as stand up?
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just wait until the Republicans soften Marco Rubio up a bit. To paraphrase Mr. Trump, there's a lot of material there.
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It seems clear to most of us who watch politics that the GoP has fallen and it can't get up. The phrase "last throes" might be apropos to such a weak party characterized as unsure of its platform, unsure of its agenda, and unsure of who even the enemy is. Is it Muslims? Is it Mexicans? Is it crime? Are you serious?
In fact, there are now three parties. The party of Hilary Clinton represents the status quo. The party of Bernie Sanders represents a desire to be more like Europe. And the rest of the rabble simply can't even tie its shoes to help itself, and is thus dominated by the loudest voice and most virulent of hate mongers.
It seems that the only real choice is whether to continue with the status quo or become more like Europe. Having watched my income go down over 40 years relative to the rest of the country, as I steadily move from the middle class into the lower class, despite advanced graduate education, I don't think the status quo represents a viable option.
In fact, there are now three parties. The party of Hilary Clinton represents the status quo. The party of Bernie Sanders represents a desire to be more like Europe. And the rest of the rabble simply can't even tie its shoes to help itself, and is thus dominated by the loudest voice and most virulent of hate mongers.
It seems that the only real choice is whether to continue with the status quo or become more like Europe. Having watched my income go down over 40 years relative to the rest of the country, as I steadily move from the middle class into the lower class, despite advanced graduate education, I don't think the status quo represents a viable option.
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We know exactly where this evil threat of socialism leads. Safe, gun-free parks and streets, first rate education for all, superior health care, a turn from the militarism bankrupting the United States, environmental stewardship to care for a nation's greatest asset—its natural beauty, real efforts to raise people out of poverty and give them dignified, meaningful work..
We must NEVER let this happen in America!!
We must NEVER let this happen in America!!
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What you describe only happens in fairytales or somewhere over the rainbow. These lands of milk and honey that you describe are, in fact, a figment if your liberal imagination. Vermont-the great quasi-socialist experiment of a state--has degenerated into a cesspool for welfare bilking, social service collecting poor whites and heroine addicts. Socialists are not the angelic beings you dream about. Perhaps, you have a money tree in your backyard that is nourished from the maneaur of a pink unicorn. Because your poor attempt to satirize those opposed to socialism reveals how close your understanding of socialism resembles an Aesops fable.
I never know why people don't address the tech revolution that continues to gut many human jobs. I'm no Luddite, and love my Netflix, but our stagnant wages and weak/low wage employment numbers are here to stay with every new algorithm that replaces a human task. If your higher education is a history degree, good luck with that, I'm sad to say.
"Mr. Trump, his aura of invincibility gone, could prove vulnerable there as well."
Invincibility? Only in the mind of a megalomaniac. Trump puts his pants on one leg at a time. When the Republican field slims down to a handful, he will still be pulling 30%, namely the least well informed fringe who value spectacle over substance.
If the Republicans actually nominate him as their Presidential candidate, he will make Barry Goldwater's loss (38% against LBJ's 62%) in 1964 look like a success.
Invincibility? Only in the mind of a megalomaniac. Trump puts his pants on one leg at a time. When the Republican field slims down to a handful, he will still be pulling 30%, namely the least well informed fringe who value spectacle over substance.
If the Republicans actually nominate him as their Presidential candidate, he will make Barry Goldwater's loss (38% against LBJ's 62%) in 1964 look like a success.
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Aren't you happy LBJ was elected. 56k dead americans and many thousands injured.
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LBJ declined to run for re-election because he did not know how to win the Vietnam War. Nixon won the election to succeed him purporting to have a secret plan to end the war. That turned out to be to carpet-bomb Southeast Asia from B-52s. Don't chalk up all the casualties to LBJ, the first US soldier was killed in 1961.
But I do blame him. He put the big machine into motion.
After getting an absolute free ride for the last 6 months, being allowed to lie, and do nothing but tout his poll number at his rally's, the reality of just what a pathetic candidate Donald Trump is has come home to roost. Number one, you can't just dial it in. Number two, you can't just call your opponents names and justify your boorishness because "every poll etc etc etc", Number three, you can't not show up to a debate and face your opponents because you do not have the cones to take questions frombig, bad Megyn Kelly. Hopefully going forward when Trump just makes a false statement, the Joe Scarboroughs of the world will not allow it to go unchallenged!!!
Now after hiding under a rock for the last 12 hours he has finally started tweeting again, get this "the media is sooooooooo unfair to him" What an absolute baby. What is this guy going to do if someone ever gets around to asking him a follow up question. Oh, sorry Megan Kelly already did that and he took his ball and went home!!!!!
Now after hiding under a rock for the last 12 hours he has finally started tweeting again, get this "the media is sooooooooo unfair to him" What an absolute baby. What is this guy going to do if someone ever gets around to asking him a follow up question. Oh, sorry Megan Kelly already did that and he took his ball and went home!!!!!
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The man has more support than anyone else. Just needs a get out the vote ground operation. All of Ted's supporters came out to vote. But not all of Trump supporters came out to vote. This is well understood.
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Another state with more diverse population should be first to hold caucuses. Iowa Republicans vote for best evangelical preacher . . . too predictable and meaningless.
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Recent Iowa winners:
Santorum and Hucabee.
I rest my case.
Santorum and Hucabee.
I rest my case.
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Diversity did win in Iowa. Two Hispanic Americans and one African American received 65% of the votes in the Republican caucuses.
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Cruz has taken his first step to oblivion. He joins Santorum and Huckabee as an embarrassing footnote in Republican party electoral history.
What happened to the once great Republican party?
What happened to the once great Republican party?
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It is still only once-great?
Iowans got one thing right. They cast out the impostor O'Malley, to expose the true sham of the democratic slate. Radical Leftist, and Same Old-Same Old tired Progressive. The world must wonder, how the Democrats have only two candidates from a 300 million population. It is quite un-democratic
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None of these Republican deserve to become President. In the book "It's Worse than it Looks, How the American Constitutional System the New Politics of Extremism" by Norman Orenstein and Thomas E. Mann. the best example from the book is " The Democrats of moved from the fifty to forty on football field and the Republicans move from fifty to end zone". Those running for President are an example.
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In order to win Iowa - even in the age of Hubble and Hawking - you have to publicly proclaim as an absolute truth that our incomprehensibly complex universe was created by a divine prime mover, who then became his own son and implanted himself in the womb of a virgin from the Middle-East two thousand years ago, then had himself crucified in order to save us from the sin he himself, as creator of all things, created, finally disappearing corporeally through the clouds to outer space and a place called heaven to be reunited with his dad, aka himself. Sorry, call me European, but shouldn't critical thinking be a pre-requisite for the job, as opposed to its wholescale abandonment?
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HA! I love it!
What preceded the big bang?
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Unknown to you, I or anyone else. I would speculate a cyclical process of Big Bang type explosions over countless millennia, but that's just my speculation. Anyone, religious or not, who claims they know -- doesn't. Making up an answer to the eternal questions of the universe, even (and especially) by Bronze Age forbears with little understanding of the world they inhabited doesn't make it correct.
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Iowa Caucus?
Iowa Sarcophagus is more like it.
Iowa Sarcophagus is more like it.
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Rubio's excitement over a 3rd place showing is laughable. He had to outspend everyone, except possibly Jeb. That's the best he could do in Iowa? It was the low spark of a high heeled boy.
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With a margin of victory equal to the number of residents in two Upper East Side apartment houses, I don't think Cruz proved anything, but Rubio did show the rise one gets by throwing lots of resources into a small market contest.
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Historians of the future will likely date the nation's decline to this time: when the likes of Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, and Rafael 'Felito' Cruz were considered viable candidates for the office of chief executive of the United States.
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Actually, it will be remembered for when Iowa Democrats endorsed a felon.
CNN reported that most Iowa voters wanted some one who felt the way they did about issues which Ted Cruz won. Rubio won the electability vote. And Trump won the anger vote.
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Well, he's finally available. Mike Huckabee can now replace Fred Thompson as the shill for the reverse-mortgage industry. A perfect fit.
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Something wicked this way comes. I believe America will reject a person like this, but I'm nowhere as confident of that as I used to be.
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Ted Cruz is like Dracula's less atttactive right wing extremists cousin you pretend you don't know. He's beyond creepy.
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The Trump spectacle is finally starting toward its dismal conclusion. Once the campaign shifts towards non-Caucasian states he will have to get used to losing, at which point his "I'm a winner" routine will get stale. Cruz doesn't have a broad enough appeal to win enough delegates. Believe it or not, not everyone in the country wants to blow it (our political system) up. So, I guess it'll be Rubio. Unless the NYT endorsement of Kasich turns his campaign around.
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Here's my quick take:
1st, on the Republican/Tea Party side -
Ted Cruz: enjoy it while it lasts as President Huckabee and President Santorum did. His win won't help in the long-run.
Donald Trump: HUUUUUUGE Loser!
Mario Rubio - as previously mentioned in past comments, Rubio was the big winner last night by finishing a strong 3rd last night and is best positioned going forward for the party to rally around when "Crump" (combination of Cruz and Trump) crumples.
Jeb!: Well, Trump was right - really, low energy. Anyone know how to make a downward facing exclamation point?
Sarah Palin: Kiss of death!
2nd, on the Democratic Party side -
Hillary: yeah, she won (slightly) per the actual numbers, but she really lost by not having a big, convincing victory.
Bernie: yeah, he lost (slightly) per the actual numbers, but he really was the big winner last night and enters NH with huge momentum - and campaign funds. He's not going away soon.
It's going to be a long, hard-fought battle for the Democratic nomination.
On the Republican/Tea Party side, unless the party coalesces around Rubio or someone else from the establishment side, the nomination battle will go into the convention with no clear front-runner, perhaps leading to a deadlocked convention and many ballots to choose a nominee.
1st, on the Republican/Tea Party side -
Ted Cruz: enjoy it while it lasts as President Huckabee and President Santorum did. His win won't help in the long-run.
Donald Trump: HUUUUUUGE Loser!
Mario Rubio - as previously mentioned in past comments, Rubio was the big winner last night by finishing a strong 3rd last night and is best positioned going forward for the party to rally around when "Crump" (combination of Cruz and Trump) crumples.
Jeb!: Well, Trump was right - really, low energy. Anyone know how to make a downward facing exclamation point?
Sarah Palin: Kiss of death!
2nd, on the Democratic Party side -
Hillary: yeah, she won (slightly) per the actual numbers, but she really lost by not having a big, convincing victory.
Bernie: yeah, he lost (slightly) per the actual numbers, but he really was the big winner last night and enters NH with huge momentum - and campaign funds. He's not going away soon.
It's going to be a long, hard-fought battle for the Democratic nomination.
On the Republican/Tea Party side, unless the party coalesces around Rubio or someone else from the establishment side, the nomination battle will go into the convention with no clear front-runner, perhaps leading to a deadlocked convention and many ballots to choose a nominee.
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The Republicans get to choose who will give more tax cuts to the rich.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
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Here's a clue, once primaries head south, Bernie is toast.
The American People can enjoy a fun party, but when they finally get down to business, they are wiser than you might imagine.
Keep the faith!
Keep the faith!
If Bernie Sanders and upend the establishment of Hillary Clinton than the REAL winner of the Iowa Caucus is MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.
Thanks for reminding us in this article that the last two winners in Iowa were Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee.
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No no, this isn't even an issue to Trump's campaign. ANYONE who has ever been in the evangelical movement (I was ordained in it many years ago and subsequently left) knew it was likely that Cruz would win Iowa from the time they started campaigning there. There is a large, well organized and very extreme group of fundamentalist and evangelical Christians in the GOP there. Cruz deployed thousands of volunteers to activate those fundevangelicals. Cruz was endorsed by people the ilk of Mike Bickle. He was endorsed as a sacred king by the particularly vile Seven Mountains Movement, which teaches that by taking control of the seven "mountains" of human endeavor the church will conquer and then use force to make everyone else obey their dicatates (http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/brucewilson/ted-cruzs-father-suggested... ). He announced that he was Christian first and American second. He even spoke on the stage of a national meeting of an extreme group that wants to kill (that's right, KILL) gay Americans . The fact that someone in the media really and truly doesn't understand, or seems not to understand how the ACTUAL American populace thinks - is a strong indication of how out of touch the media is - and that has worried me for years. Get columnists that have SOME connection to the grass roots on both sides - and dump the Friedmans - they do not understand.
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I am certain that this election cycle will prove for all time that every boy, young or old, is more terrified of his Mother's influences than he could ever be about any fearful Monster of Fact of Fiction.
I think I remember reading somewhere, or hearing on NPR, that the Iowa caucus has a success rate in predicting the nominee of somewhere around 35% or less. Which brings up the natural question: "What's the big deal?"
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Cruz will not win the nomination. The party sees him as a very effective campaigner for conservative principles, explaining the positions with clarity few can match. GOP needs that as another counterweight to the mighty left wing press.
But Cruz is most useful to the nation when he unabashedly explains to all how bad the liberal agenda is for the country. He is very clear, lucid and convincing, and willing to debate any progressive in public. That aspect alone scares the left wing the most; what if the undecideds start believing him?
And now, after this initial win, he continues reaching not only his supporters but the nation as a whole, in a way no newspaper can. He needed this win to continue; Trump didn't.
But Cruz is most useful to the nation when he unabashedly explains to all how bad the liberal agenda is for the country. He is very clear, lucid and convincing, and willing to debate any progressive in public. That aspect alone scares the left wing the most; what if the undecideds start believing him?
And now, after this initial win, he continues reaching not only his supporters but the nation as a whole, in a way no newspaper can. He needed this win to continue; Trump didn't.
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Bad in what way? The conservative agenda does nothing to help the average person. There liberal agenda recognizes that most of us will need help at some point.
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Ouch. I laughed so hard, I pulled a muscle.
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You're right. It does frighten me that there is a population of people who feel we would be better off under a leader who dismisses facts that undermine religious stories, treats women secondary to men and for whom praying is considered a problem solving technique.
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Rubio? STRONG third place???? Gimme a break! Rubio and strong are words which do not fit together.
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It was weird to hear the so-called "mainstream, establishment candidate" Marco Rubio thank "his lord and savior, Jesus Christ." When I was a kid growing up in Manhattan, someone in an elevator in the Gimbels department store handed me a card and said something about accepting Jesus Christ as my savior. I remember thinking that was just about the weirdest thing that had ever happened to me. I guess these days I'm far from mainstream.
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Huckabee, Santorum, Cruz.
That's three strikes, Iowa. You're sitting in your time-out chair now until you learn to some maturity.
That's three strikes, Iowa. You're sitting in your time-out chair now until you learn to some maturity.
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It was a win win for everyone. Ted Cruz's "win" was truly the GOP's Iowan Kiss of Death to his political career. We only have to wait every four years to watch him compete for last place with previous Iowa"winners" Huckabee and Santorum.
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According to current scoring methods, Trump is a LOSER. You really cannot make this stuff up.
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This is only the beginning of the battle ... Nothing is settled yet. D.Trump will recover to contain this small difference in favor of Ted Cruz ... And I says , the Iowa caucus is somehow an Exhibitionist Strenna of mobilisation of voters where there is much hesitation ... And then, serious things have not started yet.
Traditional habits in GOP or the partisane influence which will bring up the origin taste of colors of the Republican political picture - An intimate infiltration by secret influence which no part of the GOP is not closed for the other. D.Trump is the potential GOP candidate. Soon; the maneuvers-used in such cases, influential members, the open strategy and then on arrival , the underground strategy of occult forces. D.Trump will be invested to face Hilary Clinton. .
Traditional habits in GOP or the partisane influence which will bring up the origin taste of colors of the Republican political picture - An intimate infiltration by secret influence which no part of the GOP is not closed for the other. D.Trump is the potential GOP candidate. Soon; the maneuvers-used in such cases, influential members, the open strategy and then on arrival , the underground strategy of occult forces. D.Trump will be invested to face Hilary Clinton. .
Someone should have reminded and whispered to Trump's ear: "Remember, Caesar, Thou art mortal!"
Instead, intoxicated by the polls that predicted a Trump victory, he went on to make comments that show little respect for the voters and implied that he had already taken them for granted, skipped the debate in yet another display of his false sense of invincibility, lack of humility and respect. Voters will not forget it, and those who were on the sidelines or decided to go with another top candidate because their first choice did not have a chance to win, did not appreciate Trump's words. Voters switching and looking for a more viable candidate are not choosing Trump: as they say, " a fun boyfriend but not one to marry."
Republicans are paying attention now, and the Iowa results could very well mark the end of Trump's lead and will likely find Cruz and Rubio pulling ahead of the field with perhaps another more pragmatic candidate surging in New Hampshire. Trump blew it and I don't think he will recover unless he can begin to show respect, humility and thoughtfulness. But, then it wouldn't be Trump, would it? But his viability as a candidate is seriously damaged by his own words and actions. The Trump entertainment is becoming tiresome and predictable.
Choosing a President is serious business. Candidates must do the hard work, smartly and organized and never ever take for granted the American vote. Remember " Thou Art Mortal."
Instead, intoxicated by the polls that predicted a Trump victory, he went on to make comments that show little respect for the voters and implied that he had already taken them for granted, skipped the debate in yet another display of his false sense of invincibility, lack of humility and respect. Voters will not forget it, and those who were on the sidelines or decided to go with another top candidate because their first choice did not have a chance to win, did not appreciate Trump's words. Voters switching and looking for a more viable candidate are not choosing Trump: as they say, " a fun boyfriend but not one to marry."
Republicans are paying attention now, and the Iowa results could very well mark the end of Trump's lead and will likely find Cruz and Rubio pulling ahead of the field with perhaps another more pragmatic candidate surging in New Hampshire. Trump blew it and I don't think he will recover unless he can begin to show respect, humility and thoughtfulness. But, then it wouldn't be Trump, would it? But his viability as a candidate is seriously damaged by his own words and actions. The Trump entertainment is becoming tiresome and predictable.
Choosing a President is serious business. Candidates must do the hard work, smartly and organized and never ever take for granted the American vote. Remember " Thou Art Mortal."
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Amazing - all this hoopla, months of coverage, $$$ spent, and outcomes, over less than 200,000 voters, 186,874 to be exact.
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Cruz is apparently against the government.
On the other hand, he IS part of that government, and he wants to be the godhead of what he says he dislikes.
Duplicitous and devious and deceitful!
On the other hand, he IS part of that government, and he wants to be the godhead of what he says he dislikes.
Duplicitous and devious and deceitful!
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As a Hilary supporter this outcome does not bother me. Long way to go and the best thing is that Bernie, I like Bernie, will continue to push real issues with HRC with Democratic voters being the ones to take this election seriously. On the Rebub side the only one who has a chance of running against Hilary is Kasich from my state of Ohio, but even that is a long shot. It's not like he is loved here He's just not crazy and tries to govern, but as a governor who expanded Obamacare in Ohio how much support do you think the right will give him?
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Exactly! I posted earlier about how frustrating it is that GOP candidates with the potential to actually be effective and tolerable tend to get weeded out by the early caucuses/primaries dominated by evangelicals unless they were already dominating the polls.
Yuck! Possibly, an Evangelical with his finger on the nuclear button. That got your attention, didn't it? Scary....
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Yes. Armageddon sick and tired of hearing his foolish and hateful rants.
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well now...27% of Iowa caucus attendees, a state no where near representative of the nation, has voiced a preference for Cruz and that changes some landscape. please! history has clearly shown that this is a problem for Cruz...just ask huckibee and Santorum
Cruz relied on a narrow religious group that will be a ball and chain once he moves on, Again as history has demonstrated
for please media folks TALK some about their polices the cost and challenge of implementing their improved America
this isn't a sporting event it is serious and there is far too little discussion and analysis of their proposals
their personalities are interesting but not the main event
let's cover the decision America must make not just the TMZ coverage of famous people
where is the journalistic pride where is the deeper view
Cruz relied on a narrow religious group that will be a ball and chain once he moves on, Again as history has demonstrated
for please media folks TALK some about their polices the cost and challenge of implementing their improved America
this isn't a sporting event it is serious and there is far too little discussion and analysis of their proposals
their personalities are interesting but not the main event
let's cover the decision America must make not just the TMZ coverage of famous people
where is the journalistic pride where is the deeper view
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A solid ground operation got the vote out for Cruz and handed him the number one spot. But with these results there seems to be no doubt that there is a lot of support for Trump. He needs a ground operation that will actually get those people who say they support him off their chairs, out their front doors and to the polling stations. Not that I want him to be president or anything but I think it will be four years of hilarity if he does become president.
And I do think that he is a smart person. I am the only one saying it and nobody is believing me but I think he is saying the things he is saying just to carve out a support base from among those disgruntled, angry American people. His support base absolutely love what he says. And the minute he stops saying the things he is saying he will lose them. So he has got to keep saying those things to keep his support base happy and intact if he wants to get elected. But here's the thing, I think he will completely change tack and be more prudent than you would believe once he gets elected. I don't think the man is stupid.
And I do think that he is a smart person. I am the only one saying it and nobody is believing me but I think he is saying the things he is saying just to carve out a support base from among those disgruntled, angry American people. His support base absolutely love what he says. And the minute he stops saying the things he is saying he will lose them. So he has got to keep saying those things to keep his support base happy and intact if he wants to get elected. But here's the thing, I think he will completely change tack and be more prudent than you would believe once he gets elected. I don't think the man is stupid.
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Republicans wake up! If you care at all about your party and it having any significance in the future, change the rules on where to hold the first primaries in the 2020 election cycle. California or New York, even Ohio would prove to be a much better testing ground for moderate candidates who could possibly get elected. You know full well that America's demography is changing, and not to your advantage. Step up your game; face reality and side-line the loonies before they sideline you.
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As a Dem I've decided I like the Iowa first situation. It gets the Christofascists out front and center so the rest of us can subsequently bury them. Better to know right off the bat who these candidates are than to let them get up a head of steam towards a nomination.
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I have never seen a man who more perfectly embodies my idea of Tartuffe than Ted Cruz. Let's hope for an American Molière to do him justice !
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Wow, I cannot believe it. They voted for Cruz who promised to carpet bomb everyone and everything that moves...
Whats wrong with this nation? Is this the impact of religion and corporate media on the minds of people that leads to such irrational choices?
So, then, whats scarier-terrorism or dumbed down American society? The world should be on alert!
Whats wrong with this nation? Is this the impact of religion and corporate media on the minds of people that leads to such irrational choices?
So, then, whats scarier-terrorism or dumbed down American society? The world should be on alert!
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I'm more scared of our low information voters.
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The world used to be interested in who would be the next US president. The world is now worried about who will become the next president.
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These are people who are so short-sighted and selfish that they refuse to see past their own lifetimes (even if they have children) and only do good if it gets them credit in heaven instead of simply for the sake of being a good person.
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With govt worship,the fastest growing religion,I'm afraid the Republicans are in long term decline.
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These men striving for respectable careers do seem to be unable to convince their fellow Americans of their actual sincerity on any subject.
I think that rather proves the average American voter is smarter than those men hoping to gain unearned confidence from the public.
I think that rather proves the average American voter is smarter than those men hoping to gain unearned confidence from the public.
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Iowa does not have a good record for picking the Republican winner. Two of the last 6 or 33%. New Hampshire is twice the indicator with 4 or 6 or 67%. Cruz's victory makes him the likely loser or at least "not the winner". Iowa is a better predictor for Democrats picking 5 or 7 or 71% (but they could really make up their minds this time), while NH picks 4 of 7 or 57%.
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So I am really interested in what the NYTimes is going to say after Trump sweeps NH, SC and the rest of the states. Iowa has perhaps the worst demographic for Trump, who is a centrist. Pandering to evangelicals may have delivered Iowa for Cruz, but it will work against him most everywhere else but Utah.
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Funny. Trump was right there pandering away.
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trump is a centrist ?
odd, ive always thought of him as a loud mouthed, shady real estate developer w a bad toupee
odd, ive always thought of him as a loud mouthed, shady real estate developer w a bad toupee
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So, stay tuned.
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You listen to the GOP and you wonder if they are running for Preacher in Chief. Of course, the party that decries Sharia law fails to see the irony in their advocating for Evagelical sharia law. Does the GOP realize that there is more to this country than Evangelicals? Do they even care? Is their a place in the GOP vision of American for anyone who isn't an Evangelical, white, or Southern?
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Ted Cruz is not going to be the GOP nominee, and it's too little too late for Marco Rubio.
This was the best thing that could have happened to Trump because it gives Trump the commuter lane to the nomination because Cruz and Rubio are both Tea Party Senators, who failed to dent the Obama agenda and both are vulnerable on amnesty.
Let's see how pro-amnesty Cuban Washington DC insider candidates play in South Carolina, Georgia, Texas and the deep south.
This was the best thing that could have happened to Trump because it gives Trump the commuter lane to the nomination because Cruz and Rubio are both Tea Party Senators, who failed to dent the Obama agenda and both are vulnerable on amnesty.
Let's see how pro-amnesty Cuban Washington DC insider candidates play in South Carolina, Georgia, Texas and the deep south.
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DCBarrister, you are a smart person. Can you please bring your Republican buddies to pay attention to zika virus, a public health emergency that is threatening all over Latin America, caribbean and soon to arrive on American shores. It is a kind of virus spread via mosquitos but can be transmitted by sex, putting the life of an unborn fetus or yet to be conceived fetus in danger of being deformed. Nature is sending us a powerful message. This is not the time for cultural wars. Thanks in advance DC.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zika-brazil-abortion-petition_us_56a...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/zika-brazil-abortion-petition_us_56a...
Just reading the newspapers in Iowa this morning.
Two things are jumping out at me--the last minute influx of GOP operatives, bussed and flown into Iowa to work for Rubio, the numerous revotes in the GOP caucuses that switched votes from Trump and Cruz to Rubio, and the confusion of first time caucus goers who were there for Trump and did not get to caucus over technical issues.
First time Iowa caucus goers were scrutinized heavily at the request of Cruz and Rubio campaigns and often turned away.
The fix was in.
I cannot wait until the actual primaries where your first vote is your only one.
Two things are jumping out at me--the last minute influx of GOP operatives, bussed and flown into Iowa to work for Rubio, the numerous revotes in the GOP caucuses that switched votes from Trump and Cruz to Rubio, and the confusion of first time caucus goers who were there for Trump and did not get to caucus over technical issues.
First time Iowa caucus goers were scrutinized heavily at the request of Cruz and Rubio campaigns and often turned away.
The fix was in.
I cannot wait until the actual primaries where your first vote is your only one.
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I'm amazed at how readily the public accepts the Clinton and Cruz victories. At this point, the system is so monstrously corrupt I'd say that all bets are off as to the actual winners. It would be surprising to me if the electoral system were NOT rigged, given the mafia-like character of the proceedings, the dirty, untraceable money involved, etc. We can be absolutely certain that if Sanders is not defeated outright, the power structure will find other means of ensuring he doesn't interfere with the Wall Street oligarchs. No matter how much support he receives, he will never get near the White House, just as anyone challenging America's permanent war economy has no chance of being elected.
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If people really want to change the corrupt system we now have, Congress is the place to start by the simple expedient of "Re-Electing No One."
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"Mr. Trump spoke of the New Testament’s Second Book of Corinthians as “Two Corinthians,” a telling lapse in the eyes of evangelicals." Great article, but perhaps it is equally telling that the NYT editorial staff thinks these epistles are called the first and second "Books" of Corinthians.
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Yes -- I noticed that too. See how hard it is to act like you're familiar with something you know nothing about? :) It's St. Paul's second letter (epistle) to the Corinthians, commonly called "second Corinthians" but it's abbreviated in writing as II Corinthians of 2 Corinthians, which is what lead Trump astray, having never actually heard it read aloud. :)
He might profit from reading it on his own: " Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."
He might profit from reading it on his own: " Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."
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I hope the "evangelical vote", i.e., the bloc of people who are told to vote this way or that, to "save themselves", by some authoritarian preacher or worse, some cynical politician, will someday fade to citizens just voting their own minds.
Iowa holding the country hostage to people who have extreme beliefs is no favor to America.
Iowa holding the country hostage to people who have extreme beliefs is no favor to America.
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The most prominent bloc of voters who vote as they are told by their preachers are black. And they back up the buses to the church doors to bring them over to "early voting".
Here: The Evangelical vote in Iowa and elsewhere is giving us terrible candidates.
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Cruz is crazier than Trump.
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Trump is a gaudy entertainer. Cruz is undiluted evil.
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I'm just going to go think about that while hiding under my desk.
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Bill Clinton lost Iowa and NH. . .look how that turned out.
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Going by the turnout to these caucuses, I think the vast majority of Iowans consider participating in them beneath their own dignity.
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Rubio should be the next GOP nominee.
Iowa Caucus has demonstrated that many voters understand the danger of electing a showman like Trump to the nation's highest office. We need a serious man for a serious job. We are still recovering from George W.'s fiasco. Let's get serious by not electing a man like Trump.
Iowa Caucus has demonstrated that many voters understand the danger of electing a showman like Trump to the nation's highest office. We need a serious man for a serious job. We are still recovering from George W.'s fiasco. Let's get serious by not electing a man like Trump.
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Ted Cruz.
TED. CRUZ.
The Republican primary has basically become a talent search for the most repellent person in North America.
TED. CRUZ.
The Republican primary has basically become a talent search for the most repellent person in North America.
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Maybe the voters really preferred a stand-up Comic?
No Matter How Poorly Prepared For Responsibility.
No Matter How Poorly Prepared For Responsibility.
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The good news is that bush is completely out of the conversation, as he should be.
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Which one? They ALL belong "out of the conversation." Just wait and you will see........
This is just the beginning and the comic breathiness exhibited by this paper is something I would expect more in an Archie comic where he is the editor of the Riverdale High paper reporting on student representative results---something that a 12 year old might relate to.
In it's haste to scuttle Trump's chances, the NYT waxes ecstatic over Cruz. This after one state with 44 out of over 5000 electoral votes at the convention.
In it's haste to scuttle Trump's chances, the NYT waxes ecstatic over Cruz. This after one state with 44 out of over 5000 electoral votes at the convention.
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It is extremely difficult for a bully to accept a defeat and much less to UNDERSTAND the reason. And, as it happens, the bully approach is coupled with a strong narcissism where the individual is accustomed to get his way every time no matter what, usually sends the individual into a frenzy. He questions and blames the entire world, except himself. Gone are the nasty tweets and name calling, especially the epithet of “loser” for now he is THE biggest loser of them all.
Humble pie for a bully is actually a humiliation cake. The question now is, will Trump have the inner strength to face reality and continue or will he fall into a depressive state from which he will find it difficult to recover and come back? Let’s keep in mind that unlike other candidates, Trump became so accustomed to win that he stated that even if he shot an unarmed man in public he would not lose a single vote. Well, he lost big to a “loser.” Let’s see how the new reality plays out.
Humble pie for a bully is actually a humiliation cake. The question now is, will Trump have the inner strength to face reality and continue or will he fall into a depressive state from which he will find it difficult to recover and come back? Let’s keep in mind that unlike other candidates, Trump became so accustomed to win that he stated that even if he shot an unarmed man in public he would not lose a single vote. Well, he lost big to a “loser.” Let’s see how the new reality plays out.
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Not a single person from ANY political "party" is a leader, let alone not having done ANYTHING that would prove they should be the leader of the United States. Anyone who believes differently has never been around a REAL leader. This is NOT a sitcom on TV, it is an election for the highest position of leadership in this country, and, like the many presidential elections before this one, is treated as if it is an audition for a stage production in the entertainment world, with clearly inexperienced, amateurish actors auditioning. This is the REAL world, not "virtual" reality, nor "augmented" reality, and you need to start "living" in it (instead of being nothing more than "objects" meant for consuming gadgets/commodities, etc.). Start being ACTIVELY involved with more than your mouths/words in the REAL governance of your country, making your own decisions as to a person's qualifications for ANYTHING that affects you (and the rest of the world), instead of being so disgustingly easy to manipulate with empty words and promises into doing what OTHERS want you to do (that keeps THEM in power and control of your lives, and keeps THEIR "wallets/purses" full, as all of you are losing your jobs (if you even have one), pensions, etc., etc., ad nauseam). You are allowing yourselves to be bought and sold, by others who have been bought and sold, who don't even care about each other. Either fight for your country, or lose it to YOUR weakness and "THEIR" greed.
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The important thing is to get a viable, authentic leader in the White House who can restore value, credibility, feasibility, respect, competent management, trust & inspiration & who has the qualities necessary to bring Americans back to a belief in themselves.
At this point the objective is not to make America "great" again. The point is to bring America back from the Third World status to which it has fallen. Americans neither believe in themselves, their government, nor in any capability to be a functioning society & culture. We are lost in our own country. It is a foundering and dis-United States. We are regularly mocked by just about every other nation on the planet. America should not be trying to nation-build beyond its borders when it is a broken nation within its own borders. If the United States is to lead by example it must set an example & a high standard & a high bar of excellence. America has been led to defeat by the mediocrity of its own government & the non-existent "leadership" of that government. America should not be a tale of two parties, but at this point that is the format that has bought its way to government. We have suffered a leaderless, incompetent Democratic Administration for eight years combined with a suicidal, recalcitrant Republican Congress. The November election should clean house ( House and Senate) & if necessary bring us a Social Democrat or a Democratic Socialist or a coalition government of Pres & VEEP one from each party.
At this point the objective is not to make America "great" again. The point is to bring America back from the Third World status to which it has fallen. Americans neither believe in themselves, their government, nor in any capability to be a functioning society & culture. We are lost in our own country. It is a foundering and dis-United States. We are regularly mocked by just about every other nation on the planet. America should not be trying to nation-build beyond its borders when it is a broken nation within its own borders. If the United States is to lead by example it must set an example & a high standard & a high bar of excellence. America has been led to defeat by the mediocrity of its own government & the non-existent "leadership" of that government. America should not be a tale of two parties, but at this point that is the format that has bought its way to government. We have suffered a leaderless, incompetent Democratic Administration for eight years combined with a suicidal, recalcitrant Republican Congress. The November election should clean house ( House and Senate) & if necessary bring us a Social Democrat or a Democratic Socialist or a coalition government of Pres & VEEP one from each party.
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Reggie: Accurate comments. This tragedy is happening because the PEOPLE of this country, over many years, have allowed it to happen. REAL leaders (this is NOT a "Party" thing) would never let these conditions exist, but until the people of this country get seriously involved in the governance of the country, go out on their own and find people who have PROVEN to THEM by actual RESULTS (not more never-ending empty words and promises of what they are "going to do/must be done"), that they ARE real leaders, and ELECT them, everything is going to continue to keep getting worse. The marketing that has been allowed to be done, to put a person who is easy to manipulate into the position of the POTUS, is a tragedy of monumental proportions. The PEOPLE of this country have the power to change this, if they care enough to do so.
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We know how to fix this already.
Elect more educated and thoughtful Women to positions of government power, and ditch the ambitious but silly boys.
Elect more educated and thoughtful Women to positions of government power, and ditch the ambitious but silly boys.
Obama rescued the nation in 2008-9. You can take ur definition of competence and stuff it.
Stop acting like republican pyrotechnics mean obama is incompetent. Republican need to be accountable. Save a couple great things they couldn't stop republicans ruined everything last 5 years.
Make it ou r refrain: not a single republican in office; not nowhere
Stop acting like republican pyrotechnics mean obama is incompetent. Republican need to be accountable. Save a couple great things they couldn't stop republicans ruined everything last 5 years.
Make it ou r refrain: not a single republican in office; not nowhere
I'm far from a Trump supporter, but describing this as a "humbling loss" for him seems far-fetched. He lost by four points in an electorate filled with evangelicals when it's clear he hadn't opened a bible in years.
And the idea that he'll shrink away at the first signs of adversity also seems like wishful thinking. How many times has he declared a bankruptcy? He's clearly the kind of ego who can spin utter defeat into victory, at least in his own mind.
And the idea that he'll shrink away at the first signs of adversity also seems like wishful thinking. How many times has he declared a bankruptcy? He's clearly the kind of ego who can spin utter defeat into victory, at least in his own mind.
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Iowa is not representative of the country, I've never quite understood the reasoning behind the caucus process.
I'm a religious person, but Cruz slobbering reminded me of Pentecostal TV preachers (my wife said the same). My state is conservative and religious but I'd be shocked if Cruz or Rubio got any traction. New Hampshire will be interesting.
I'm a religious person, but Cruz slobbering reminded me of Pentecostal TV preachers (my wife said the same). My state is conservative and religious but I'd be shocked if Cruz or Rubio got any traction. New Hampshire will be interesting.
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The Iowa caucus is as meaningful as whether or not Punxsutawney Phil sees his shadow.
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Does anyone actually believe Trump has been humbled? Trump came from nowhere. Spending little money, organizing little ground game, airing few ads, Trump came close to Cruz, and beat Rubio, two candidates who spent and advertised substantially more, and had substantially more organized ground games, and endorsements.
Let's see how humble Trump is next week, if as is likely, he wins in New Hampshire.
Let's see how humble Trump is next week, if as is likely, he wins in New Hampshire.
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Go Bernie !!!
Hillary is there a speech you have not memorised
or an answer to a question you have not "canned" six months ago ?
[By the way, Bill looks rather gaunt standing behind you. ]
I have never seen Cruz before and have to say:
I would not buy a house from him,
I would not buy a car from him,
I would not buy a popsicle from him.
Hillary is there a speech you have not memorised
or an answer to a question you have not "canned" six months ago ?
[By the way, Bill looks rather gaunt standing behind you. ]
I have never seen Cruz before and have to say:
I would not buy a house from him,
I would not buy a car from him,
I would not buy a popsicle from him.
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Ted Cruz's secret weapon was the snake oil dispenser concealed in his hair.
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Hard to believe Cruz was more liked, less disliked than Trump. What it says is don't take anything for granted. JG-
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I am very happy that Mr. Trump lost in Iowa, where his fat ego had him waiting for a victory. I am also very sad that a religious fanatic and hater such as Mr. Cruz, was given an opportunity to continue his opportunistic religious beliefs all over the South. But in all likelihood, as they travel north, their chances will dissipate and they will be left in the cold. As for Mr. Rubio, this person cannot be taken as a serous candidate despite his 23 percent in Iowa, but then, Iowa is an anomaly.
In my case, one vote, one person, and I will not entertain the slightest idea about voting for any of these Republican candidates, whose attacks against the present administration, so many times without any justification, seems to be their only strategy to fixing America's problems.
In my case, one vote, one person, and I will not entertain the slightest idea about voting for any of these Republican candidates, whose attacks against the present administration, so many times without any justification, seems to be their only strategy to fixing America's problems.
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It was always tight in the polls btw the 2. Watch out for New Hampshire, it's not even close.
And Trump was gracious in his concession speech. But being the NYT he must be humiliated and contemptible.
And Trump was gracious in his concession speech. But being the NYT he must be humiliated and contemptible.
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I think it's worth repeating what David Axlerod said sarcastically last night on CNN: "I'm glad the voting is over so we can get back to polling.
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Let's face facts, where Iowa is concerned it is an Evangelical Christian crucible for politicians that are less than religious Christian fanatics. As a politician competing in the Iowa Caucus you have to hold the Bible in your right hand and profess your conservative Christian allegiance to Iowa values or get defeated like Chris Christie!
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The Iowa primary has exposed some cracks in the media created narrative dyke that the Republicans will nominate an unelectable nut job from their far right base, cracks that may be big enough for the establishment to get a normal sane conservative through. Meanwhile the Democrats are having a fairy tale foisted on the party by their far left wing in the form of a grumpy old self-described socialist gnome from Vermont, who won’t be able to win any state in a general election, including Vermont.
The race is shaping up nicely Looks like it will be a contest to see which party is crazier and dumber than the other. You know, politics as usual.
The race is shaping up nicely Looks like it will be a contest to see which party is crazier and dumber than the other. You know, politics as usual.
Since the Dems and the New York Times buried credible candidates such as
Jim Webb, Hillary and Bernie are the only two left standing. Once Hillary is indicted (for misdeeds first brought to light by the New York Times in a rare instance of journalistic integrity), the Dems will be left with only Bernie.
Jim Webb, Hillary and Bernie are the only two left standing. Once Hillary is indicted (for misdeeds first brought to light by the New York Times in a rare instance of journalistic integrity), the Dems will be left with only Bernie.
You mean the misdeeds they chronicled in the stories they had to retract. Do you have a little wand with a star on one end that you tap your friends on the head with?
Hey Donald you came in second. I guess that makes you the first LOSER.
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Trump needs a lot of help.His final closing remarks on the Iowa was dismal.He made literally no comments unlike other candidates who presented their vision for the country;education,defense,economics,world relations,helping common people struggling,minimum wages,health etc. and virues of America.Trump should prepare his speeches properly.Where are his advisors to guide him?
Let's see, '08 Huckabee, '12 Santorum, '16 Cruz. Iowa can pick'em!
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That doesn't change the fact that his legitimacy will be heavily attacked by the GOP. Can you imagine hearing Mitch McConnell say that his goal is to "make sure that (Cruz) is a one-term president?"
YUGE loss. Now, make up a story.
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The phrase that the Iowa result "threw into doubt the depth of Trump's support" is wishful thinking, if it can be called thinking at all. Iowa is hardly the most representative state, having a lopsided Evangelical and politically extreme right segment in its GOP. That Trump with his "New York Values" managed to come second, and was by no means wiped out, suggests this loss may prove a minor setback, even a meaningless one. Cruz's and Rubio's rhetoric, dripping with religiosity, may play well in Iowa, but it's unlikely to do anything but turn off voters in more socially moderate states. That Trump, in many ways the unlikeliest candidate to win in Iowa placed second is astounding. Now Rubio and Cruz will divide up the far-right and Trump can move into the moderately right-of-center and center spot. If Trump rebounds and wins New Hampshire -- these comments will appear even more foolish than they do now.
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Hardly a "win" - did anyone in either party really win? What do we know now we didn't already?
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Everyone in the media is ecstatic that Trump lost and takes the second slot. Haven't we seen this drama play out before with Michelle Bachmann, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum. My prediction is that Mr. Donald J. Trump will be victorious and be the Republican nominee in the end.
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What are you basing that on?
I'd prefer Ted Cruz be the nominee - and that his resounding loss in the general election motivates the GOP to purge itself of its right wingnuts. A trump loss will only let those people preserve the myth that they lose the presidency because they don't nominate sufficiently conservative candidates.
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On his business acumen!
How do Cruz's evangelical supporters reconcile their religious beliefs with Cruz's proposal to carpet bomb the Middle East until the sands glow?
(Some high-ranking Pentagon officials are appalled at the idea.)
(Some high-ranking Pentagon officials are appalled at the idea.)
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Don't ask logical questions!!
Well there, the Bronze Age has spoken.
Now can all of us who live in modernity get around to picking a political leader for our country and let the Evangelicals go back to their snake handling, their speaking in tongues and their smiting down.
America of 2015 will be the laughingstock of the future. Deservedly so.
Now can all of us who live in modernity get around to picking a political leader for our country and let the Evangelicals go back to their snake handling, their speaking in tongues and their smiting down.
America of 2015 will be the laughingstock of the future. Deservedly so.
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Cruz is a hate and fear-monger. How ironic that he was lifted to victory by those who claim to follow Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace. Christ would not recognize these "evangelists".
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Cruz' win is as meaningless as the Iowa wins for Huckabee and Santorum.
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Forget about Trump, the bigger worry for the GOP is a mixture guns, religion, and racism that can win in Iowa, but will not travel well on both coasts and in the urban midwest.
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So, the guy whom everybody is supposed to hate won. ? Are we doomed?
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Well I'll be an uncle's monkey. Trump is not all that. He's just a TV meme with a HUGE machine that still plays flat. No substance, all dance and song. Sorry, sir, but you aren't even getting hired, you are so fired.
Good, Cruz will receive the severe examination he should have so those who voted for him can also be explained away as stupid.
Good, Cruz will receive the severe examination he should have so those who voted for him can also be explained away as stupid.
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You are missing the point; Trump does not have a "huge machine." He has the NY Times and other journalistic giants such as the Puffington Host doing hit jobs on him each and every day which, in turn, has folks wondering if he isn't the change the country really needs.
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Phil Z. - Funny, Trump wouldn't have any presence at all if it wasn't for all that free media coverage.
Whoop-de-do, it's Ted Cruz?? Not so fast.
Let's see, Iowa has over 3 million mostly white people, and 185,000 turned out to caucus last night, which is about 6% turnout in a state where Republican caucus goers chose Mike Huckabee in 2008 and Rick Santorum in 2012 as their GOP presidential candidate. John McCain, came in 4th in 2008, but went on to be the GOP presidential nominee.
By the way, all this hoopla about Iowa being an evangelical state is somewhat overblown. According to the Pew polls, in 2014 about 28% of Iowans considered themselves evangelicals (it's 49% in KY and AL). However, Iowa evangelicals are very likely to vote, since 60% of them showed up to caucus in 2012, and, of course, got their say with Santorumas the GOP winner. Santorum then went nowhere in all but a few primaries and eventually dropped out of the presidential race--saying it was because of a sick child but it was also uncertain Santorum could carry his home state of PA.
Check out Cruz on the issues at: http://www.ontheissues.org/Ted_Cruz.htm. Now this is scary. Happy Halloween!
Let's see, Iowa has over 3 million mostly white people, and 185,000 turned out to caucus last night, which is about 6% turnout in a state where Republican caucus goers chose Mike Huckabee in 2008 and Rick Santorum in 2012 as their GOP presidential candidate. John McCain, came in 4th in 2008, but went on to be the GOP presidential nominee.
By the way, all this hoopla about Iowa being an evangelical state is somewhat overblown. According to the Pew polls, in 2014 about 28% of Iowans considered themselves evangelicals (it's 49% in KY and AL). However, Iowa evangelicals are very likely to vote, since 60% of them showed up to caucus in 2012, and, of course, got their say with Santorumas the GOP winner. Santorum then went nowhere in all but a few primaries and eventually dropped out of the presidential race--saying it was because of a sick child but it was also uncertain Santorum could carry his home state of PA.
Check out Cruz on the issues at: http://www.ontheissues.org/Ted_Cruz.htm. Now this is scary. Happy Halloween!
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Trump, while the rock star had huge crowds but huge crowds do not necessarily mean votes at the caucus. I believe that much of Trump's popularity was due to his bombastic and abusive message. Anyone who got close to him would feel a full frontal assault. He said repeatedly "I am going to make America great again" But offered no specifics despite ample opportunity. I aaw a picture of a rally for Trump that was half empty. I believe that his failure to attend the debate and flying out and not staying was seen as a slap in the face.
This race is between Cruz and Rubio. All the others got their 15 minutes of fame. They can go home now
I think Hillary is in a world of hurt. Despite her campaign apparatus and her Super Pac pouring millions in her campaign the fact is she is not liked. She is seen as untrustworthy by majority and financed heavily by Wall Street as well.
She can't decide from one day to the next if she is sorry about the emails.then defiant. contrite, angry.in denial. It's a huge problem that the Dem' s cannot ignore
But it's more of the same. For Democrats the solution to every problem is to tax more and more. Money solves everything doesn't it. Remember the Cabrini Green and David Taylor housing projects in Chicago? A perfect example of you spend your way out of a problem. You have to change attitudes and create opportunity. But not to Dems. Create a social problem and if it doesn't work they don't care. They feel better.The people left behind sure don't
This race is between Cruz and Rubio. All the others got their 15 minutes of fame. They can go home now
I think Hillary is in a world of hurt. Despite her campaign apparatus and her Super Pac pouring millions in her campaign the fact is she is not liked. She is seen as untrustworthy by majority and financed heavily by Wall Street as well.
She can't decide from one day to the next if she is sorry about the emails.then defiant. contrite, angry.in denial. It's a huge problem that the Dem' s cannot ignore
But it's more of the same. For Democrats the solution to every problem is to tax more and more. Money solves everything doesn't it. Remember the Cabrini Green and David Taylor housing projects in Chicago? A perfect example of you spend your way out of a problem. You have to change attitudes and create opportunity. But not to Dems. Create a social problem and if it doesn't work they don't care. They feel better.The people left behind sure don't
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Right, our tax dollars should be going to subsidize big corporations and people who inherited money. Just ask Cruz et al.
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There is a natural optimal allocation of mixed economies between public and private sectors to exploit multiplier effect to fund public spending from taxing the chain of economic activity that follows from it.
You don't need God. You need science.
You don't need God. You need science.
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Trump got roughly 25% of the conservative Iowa GOP vote. Which would translate to about 11-12% of all voters. I always seem to calculate that Tea Party identification to be about 13% of all voting Americans, so this resonates as pretty accurate to me. That 13% comes up over and over.
In Rubios "victory" speech he pandered to the religious right like the rest of the Republican field. He is anything but representative of the moderate -majority wing of the party who will prevail in November.
He referred to God as "he", thanked our lord Jesus(so much for non-christians),and assured the voters that he is a strong 2nd amendment advocate(forget Newtown and San Bernardino) and for the umpteenth time said that he would overturn Obama care thus removing 17 million newly insured Americans from coverage unavailable to them before.
Sadly this is the political landscape in 2016.
He referred to God as "he", thanked our lord Jesus(so much for non-christians),and assured the voters that he is a strong 2nd amendment advocate(forget Newtown and San Bernardino) and for the umpteenth time said that he would overturn Obama care thus removing 17 million newly insured Americans from coverage unavailable to them before.
Sadly this is the political landscape in 2016.
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I was offended when Rubio thanked his "Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ" for placing third. Religion, any religion, should be practiced in the privacy of one's home, or in the house of worship of one's choice, with family and friends, and not be an integral part of a national election for President of the US. I would never, ever, vote for a religious zealot. This country was formed to insure religious freedom, or, for some, freedom from religion. Most folks I know are not religious in any way, shape, or form, and I like it like that. Frankly, I'm afraid of bible thumpers like Ted Cruz. He will not be the Republican nominee for President of the US.
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Iowa gets this religious nonsense front and center since it plays well there. Iowa first, now and forever.
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The facts: The results of the Iowa caucus were good for the GOP, and not good for the Democrats. On the GOP side, the least electable candidate (Trump) was wounded, and the most electable candidate (Rubio) climbed back into the race. On the Dem side, the more electable candidate (Clinton) stumbled. Full disclosure: I want Sanders. His views are mine. But, Sanders could lose in the general election to Rubio. I see Cruz announced triumphantly, "To God be the glory." God is a republican, obviously. He has no shame. We still live in Nixonland.
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What I haven't seen mentioned is that (as of the moment I write this) the vote totals, listed by the Times, show that Cruz and Trump picked up more votes together than ALL of the others (Rubio included) combined.
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So did Cruz and Rubio.
Well, the point was that the two "antiestablishment" candidate polled higher as an aggregate than all of the "mainstream" candidates put together.
Ah, yes. Ted Cruz, that Eastern-elite, Princeton and Harvard-educated lawyer, born in Calgary, Canada, long known itself as a hotbed of evangelical fervor. Abe Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time. You can fool some of the people all of the time. But you cannot fool all the people, all the time." You fooled a few folks in Iowa regarding your newly-found religious "beliefs." So Ted, what will you morph into in New Hampshire? And Massachusetts? Saying Jesus louder than everyone else won't get you a lot of votes in either locale. BTW, planning on campaigning in NY? Or is New York, with its "liberal values" (as you recently stated, by way of derision and scorn), not one of the states you plan on representing should you be elected President?
If you're still in the race by the time the NY primary comes around, come visit us, if you have the nerve. That applause line in Iowa just makes you look shallow and juvenile here. Some of us are actually familiar with your record and your persona, not just with whatever manufactured line you give the target audience-du-jour.
Let's see how you play in the state of Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Teddy Roosevelt, Benjamin Cardozo, FDR, Nelson Rockefeller and Mario Cuomo.
If you're still in the race by the time the NY primary comes around, come visit us, if you have the nerve. That applause line in Iowa just makes you look shallow and juvenile here. Some of us are actually familiar with your record and your persona, not just with whatever manufactured line you give the target audience-du-jour.
Let's see how you play in the state of Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, Teddy Roosevelt, Benjamin Cardozo, FDR, Nelson Rockefeller and Mario Cuomo.
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Congratulations to all Republican candidates (AND BERNIE) and their staff, for an amazing 6 months that has made so many of us believe America can be Great Again, and that we are never alone in that belief.
The media covers the candidates very well, but neglects the voters. It is not about Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz. It is about the voters. From that perspective we now have exact counts of Republican Conservatives, Moderates, and Establishment. A Trump-Rubio ticket is unbeatable,... very exciting months ahead!
The media covers the candidates very well, but neglects the voters. It is not about Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz. It is about the voters. From that perspective we now have exact counts of Republican Conservatives, Moderates, and Establishment. A Trump-Rubio ticket is unbeatable,... very exciting months ahead!
I would love to be able to listen in on the phone conversations that Jeb! Bush is having with his big money donors and PAC supporters this morning. Never before has so much money bought such paltry results.
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Marco Antonio Rubio prancing and preening that he was number three is too silly, simple and sick. The latest in the line of pretty faced simpletons that began with Quayle then morphed into Palin before be coming rooted in Rubio. Rubio is no Theodore Roosevelt nor John Kennedy nor Bill Clinton nor Barack Obama.
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Did you know that Marco Rubio is so Christian he actually attends both Catholic mass and a Southern Baptist megachurch? True fact. Nearer, my base, to thee.
AND as Marco slept an angel came to him in his dream and said:
"Behold, this poll shows evangelicals yet undecided,
And the Lord has named you, Marco of Miami, second choice of many;
Therefore go among them and pander, that they may vote for you."
And behold! Marco was seized with a wondrous fear of the Lord,
And he was filled with the Holy Spirit
and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus among the Gentiles of Iowa.
Then Marco cried out to the Lord, saying:
"Lord, shall I not clad myself in thy servant's raiment?"
But the Lord said: "Take not the hermit's loincloth, Marco.
It goes poorly with your high heels."
Time to pivot to secular New Hampshire now, Marco Rubio. Don't forget to deny Jesus three times.
AND as Marco slept an angel came to him in his dream and said:
"Behold, this poll shows evangelicals yet undecided,
And the Lord has named you, Marco of Miami, second choice of many;
Therefore go among them and pander, that they may vote for you."
And behold! Marco was seized with a wondrous fear of the Lord,
And he was filled with the Holy Spirit
and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus among the Gentiles of Iowa.
Then Marco cried out to the Lord, saying:
"Lord, shall I not clad myself in thy servant's raiment?"
But the Lord said: "Take not the hermit's loincloth, Marco.
It goes poorly with your high heels."
Time to pivot to secular New Hampshire now, Marco Rubio. Don't forget to deny Jesus three times.
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Nobody cares about Rubio. Make the ticket Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump and the GOP beats Hillary in a landslide, and without all the bitter Sanders ' supporters staying at home on election day!
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Nope, Sanders supporters (like me) won't be staying home. We may not like Hillary but we're not going to hand the Supreme Court over to some war mongering, misogynistic nut job.
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Among the Republican voters in Iowa, just about as many people cared about Rubio as about Trump.
dream on, Paz, dream on.
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Trump will be in a position if this is a brokered convention to throw his votes to Cruz in return for a major contract chit. This will be a 'win-win' for Trump who can then claim to have guaranteed a Democratic win in November if Cruz should lose. If Cruz won by some fluke - Trump will have been king maker, grown his brand, and ruined a $200M investment by the Koch brothers.
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I suspect the news folks out there who were blowing Trump all out of proportion might have been responsible for this surprise than anything else. They were so enamored by the race the didn't bother to check the numbers behind the polls. Just like happened in the previous presidential election where Obama was able to use accurate numbers to know where to campaign. While the rest who were living in their echo chambers didn't realize they were lying to themselves because of wishful thinking.
When thoughtful people sit down and really look at Trump, they finally figure out he's a disaster in waiting. As will people when they sit down to chose between the GOP and Dem candidates. And will realize with the current state of the Congress, the only sane thing to do is put a Democrat back in office. Regardless of who it is.
When thoughtful people sit down and really look at Trump, they finally figure out he's a disaster in waiting. As will people when they sit down to chose between the GOP and Dem candidates. And will realize with the current state of the Congress, the only sane thing to do is put a Democrat back in office. Regardless of who it is.
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I find it hilarious how people are surprised Trump lost in Iowa. This is a business man from New York who pronounces books of the Bible wrong and you thought he'd take first place in a contest among evangelicals? Absolute twaddle.
I'm amazed he came in 2nd place. I was expecting 3rd or 4th. Now if he loses New Hampshire and/or South Carolina, Trump might have an actual problem. Until then, all bets are still on.
The real surprise, and conspiracy here is how Rubio doubled his projected vote. 200% more than anyone thought he'd make. Pretty amazing, and pretty suspicious. Guess who was counting the votes in Iowa? Rubio's #2 donor. Now, I'm not saying it was fraud, but.... you have to admit that it's pretty strange. No one likes 'amnesty' and pro-tpp rubio, and this has been projected via his poll numbers. But now he's suddenly competing with Trump and Cruz? Reeks of corruption and vote rigging to me.
For the record, I'm still torn between Cruz, Trump and Sanders. I hate Sander's blatant racial pandering to non-whites and his racist policies against white people, but he'd still be a better choice than someone like Rubio or El Jeb. The border is my number one concern, so Cruz and Trump are still my preferred picks, but it it comes down to a run between Sanders and anyone but Cruz or Trump in a general election, my vote is with Sanders.
I'm amazed he came in 2nd place. I was expecting 3rd or 4th. Now if he loses New Hampshire and/or South Carolina, Trump might have an actual problem. Until then, all bets are still on.
The real surprise, and conspiracy here is how Rubio doubled his projected vote. 200% more than anyone thought he'd make. Pretty amazing, and pretty suspicious. Guess who was counting the votes in Iowa? Rubio's #2 donor. Now, I'm not saying it was fraud, but.... you have to admit that it's pretty strange. No one likes 'amnesty' and pro-tpp rubio, and this has been projected via his poll numbers. But now he's suddenly competing with Trump and Cruz? Reeks of corruption and vote rigging to me.
For the record, I'm still torn between Cruz, Trump and Sanders. I hate Sander's blatant racial pandering to non-whites and his racist policies against white people, but he'd still be a better choice than someone like Rubio or El Jeb. The border is my number one concern, so Cruz and Trump are still my preferred picks, but it it comes down to a run between Sanders and anyone but Cruz or Trump in a general election, my vote is with Sanders.
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Wow, how is it pandering or racist to insist that everyone be treated equally?
We can now rest assured in the knowledge that bible thumping, and its current thumper-in-chief, are alive, well, and suffer no shortage of zealous followers; apparently even in the hallowed halls of the New York Times.
Your fervent reporter spares us little promoting his favorite Hallelujah honker over Mr. Trump, variously described as:
...humbled...brash...subdued...unconvincing...wounded...the possessor of a self-regarded image.. et al. Did your poor man run out of invective? Adjectives? Or just out of breath.
I can't help but wonder what it is about this Trump fellow that has the Vested Interest undies tied in a knot.
Your fervent reporter spares us little promoting his favorite Hallelujah honker over Mr. Trump, variously described as:
...humbled...brash...subdued...unconvincing...wounded...the possessor of a self-regarded image.. et al. Did your poor man run out of invective? Adjectives? Or just out of breath.
I can't help but wonder what it is about this Trump fellow that has the Vested Interest undies tied in a knot.
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"Rubio Finishes in Strong Third Place"
What does that even mean?
What does that even mean?
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It means that he finished one percentage point behind second place.
Look at how these numbers are grouped:
27.6
24.3
23.1
9.3
4.5
If you graphed these, what would you see?
Look at how these numbers are grouped:
27.6
24.3
23.1
9.3
4.5
If you graphed these, what would you see?
Trump bias, naturally.
Two young men of Hispanic origin prevail in conservative, white Iowa.
Two much older white Democrats, one from the Establishment, the other a non-Democrat Socialist, split the vote, and only after HRC wins six coin tosses.
Interesting.
Two young men of Hispanic origin prevail in conservative, white Iowa.
Two much older white Democrats, one from the Establishment, the other a non-Democrat Socialist, split the vote, and only after HRC wins six coin tosses.
Interesting.
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I am bothered by the lack of separation of church and state by most of these candidates.
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As am I.
As everyone should be.
Think SCOTUS appointments...that alone should get EVERYONE OUT TO VOTE!!
As everyone should be.
Think SCOTUS appointments...that alone should get EVERYONE OUT TO VOTE!!
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Catholics and other religions are based from the roots of the birth of Jesus Christ. The beautiful word is American Christians, not evangelicals. Christians is solid and true, a solid base of the American church which the democrats have been trying to destroy. It is a matter of words changed by todays government and political thinkology. For instance in order to ameliorate the word communism, socialist is used in its place. We no longer say “a home was robbed”, we now say “home invasion.” We find better words to use for something we hate, right?
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Isn't it funny how all those supposed Christians are waving guns, clamoring for war and directing hate speech towards the poor, people of color and gay people?
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'Cruz Wins in Iowa, Dealing Trump a Humbling Loss' ~ NYT headline.
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Factual and true -- except for that word 'Humbling.'
It is doubtful that humility and Trump have ever crossed paths. His ego would not/could not allow it.
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Factual and true -- except for that word 'Humbling.'
It is doubtful that humility and Trump have ever crossed paths. His ego would not/could not allow it.
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"To God be the glory."
... wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. Scary.
... wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. Scary.
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Ted Cruz made an outstanding showing last night and should be very proud. I think he would make a fine president and he would have my vote as a Republican candidate. I was also very impressed with Marco Rubio and he too should be pleased with his results. I could also give him my vote. Our country needs a change from Obama's policies and we need to go in a new direction which either of these men could successfully achieve. We need to make our country great again as Marco Rubio stressed and rid ourselves of these liberal policies which are hurting the US. Cruz or Rubio for 2016.
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Right on, let's have another war or two and another recession. Cruz can't seem to manage to file his campaign paperwork properly or his health insurance paperwork and Rubio claims that he can't tell one credit card from another so let's put them in charge of our tax dollars. What could possibly go wrong?
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KMW New York City: "a new direction", yeah, like straight down.
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Rubio came out of the pack to make things interesting for future primaries. I Very impressive. With the effort that Cruz put into Iowa and his dependence on the evangelical vote, just squeaking by doesn't bode well for him. The whole process for Iowa is odd and we shouldn't count too much on the results going forward.
TRUMP: "I love Iowa, I might even buy a farm here".
Mr Trump, you just did.
Mr Trump, you just did.
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"Optimism in the time of anger..." Really, Marco? Really?
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Umm.Rubio has a funny way of forgetting when theirs a vote.
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Oh, please. Cruz gets up there in his speech thanking God and his "grassroots army" when he knows good and well he's being funded by billionaires and he has super-pacs doing God-knows-what opposition stuff on the other candidates. He came across as so smug in his speech. I don't like him and I would vote for Bernie or Hilary over him. I am giving my vote to Trump, I don't want lobbyists and super-rich donors deciding who becomes our President; and I agree with his policies. I don't need someone who can pray in the White House, sorry, that's not my only qualification. Iowa voters have spoken, but only for the super-religious and sometimes uneducated. So if Cruz wants to claim that victory, that's fine.
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Sure is a lotta hype for the opinons of 189,000 largely evangelical folks from a single corn belt state!
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No wonder no atheists get past the starting line of US presidential politics.
It seems that the only folks who think it is worth turning up to these caucuses are those who want "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" flushed out of the Bill of Rights.
It seems that the only folks who think it is worth turning up to these caucuses are those who want "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" flushed out of the Bill of Rights.
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The candidates are a joke and the caucuses serve no purpose other than winnowing the field - for example the quick exit of Huck and O'M. Let Cruz and Rubio battle it out amongst religious white America while Hillary and Bernie battle it out amongst a more realistic view of America and then let's see what happens.
Bernie beat all expectations of our financial and cultural gate keepers.
He's the real story of the day today and now he's on to New Hampshire for a slam dunk!
Start believing it folks!
Bernie 2016
He's the real story of the day today and now he's on to New Hampshire for a slam dunk!
Start believing it folks!
Bernie 2016
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If power in the hands of extremist Christians doesn't scare you, you're probably not afraid of much. You've heard of ISIS? The Taliban? That's what's happening here, right under your noses, and you're not doing anything about it, just as normal everyday Muslims didn't do anything, until it was too late. Once an infection like this takes hold, it's pretty hard to cure.
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Canadian and American scam artist Rafael Cruz won Iowa. Great for him. However, despite this win he is ineligible for the office and wont win the nomination anyway. Rubio is going to win the nomination. Its going to come down to Cruz and Rubio after New Hampshire and Trump is going to be bounced out. I still believe Rubio will win the nomination and the party will gather behind him to blunt Cruz which still means a victory for a Clinton/Sanders ticket.
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The biggest loser might just be Iowa itself. It has not picked the eventual Republican nominee in quite a while and has a history of not picking the eventual nominee for either party. The GOP and the Dems should really look at whether Iowa should be first in the nation or should it be part of Super Tuesday. I understand the Iowa caucus is a boon to the state's economy, but being out of touch with the rest of the nation might cost Iowa.
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Give US numbers. How many Iowa voters participated last night and what is their percentage of voter population? Iowa only has 1% of delegates - how can this be indicative of anything? Come on press. Do your jobs.
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No surprises since Grass Roots are fed by deep bull dung
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Trump's above the fray, too smart for politics came back and bit him on the rump. His lack of a ground game, the organization that makes Iowa such a humbling experience for many politician, gave Cruz a decisive win, and Trump a large slice of humble pie. His ego must be shattered, and I think he'll likely lose interest now that his armor has been pierced so thoroughly. He was in it for the ego boost, not for the long haul, and if he loses that he'll head back to The Apprentice, where the stakes a much lower and no one questions he's the boss.
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Who really cares about these three jabronis? None are inspiring leaders.
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In her speech after the Iowa Caucus, Secretary Clinton called herself a progressive. My jaw dropped. How can she say that?? She's not a progressive but a moderate. She has even said so herself in a recent debate. It is hard to listen to her and I understand why I feel that way. She tailors her opinions to which ever the way the wind is blowing and that is not inspiring and for me it's hard to listen to. It reveals a false 'strength'. It shows in her body language and it shows in the way she shouts her lines. Senator Sanders has been consistent in his stance and that consistency shows in his rhythm of speech and inflection. I am biased but I want to hear what he has to say. His speech after the caucus was stirring and pointedly strong. The man believes in what he says.
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I hope all the sharpies on Wall street and all the big money men everywhere from sea to shining sea, all the big tax shelter guys everywhere, who could care less about the America people, who will send any job south, north or west, anywhere except the US, were watching Iowa very closely. Iowa, its just the beginning. The people are waking up. We're taking our country back. one citizen at a time, one city at a time, one state at a time. The 99 percent ....now have a voice.
It's US vs them. Feel the Bern
It's US vs them. Feel the Bern
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In analyzing Trump's second place finish - The Times did not mention the "Palin effect". After her totally crazy - barely decipherable - endorsement speech - even hard-core conservatives would have to question Trump's sanity in having her speak for him. Wasn't there analysis somewhere that putting her on the McCain ticket is what drove many traditional republican voters away? This year it looks like it drove them to the Rubio camp.
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I'm amazed McCain hasn't retired out of shame for creating a monster.
4
On November 9th, whatever the outcome, I'm going to sit down and listen to the Grateful Dead's "What a Long Strange Trip It's Been".
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When I saw Ted Cruz making his victory speech this morning (05AM, Greenwich time) I sensed that this man has everything to become elected as the next president of the United States. Afterwards, I checked on Wikipedia the CV ot senator Cruz and, man, I couldn't believe my eyes. This guy is a genius, no kidding! Princeton, Harvard, magna cum laude, the best lawyer of Texas, it goes on and on... Damned, what a guy!
but he's ugly
The man just can't abide by "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".
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AND as Marco slept an angel came to him in his dream and said:
"Behold, this poll shows evangelicals yet undecided,
And the Lord has named you, Marco of Miami, second choice of many;
Therefore go among them and pander, that they may vote for you."
And behold! Marco was seized with a wondrous fear of the Lord,
And he was filled with the Holy Spirit
and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus among the Gentiles of Iowa.
Then Marco cried out to the Lord, saying:
"Lord, shall I not clad myself in thy servant's raiment?"
But the Lord said: "Take not the hermit's loincloth, Marco.
It goes poorly with your high heels."
"Behold, this poll shows evangelicals yet undecided,
And the Lord has named you, Marco of Miami, second choice of many;
Therefore go among them and pander, that they may vote for you."
And behold! Marco was seized with a wondrous fear of the Lord,
And he was filled with the Holy Spirit
and immediately he began to proclaim Jesus among the Gentiles of Iowa.
Then Marco cried out to the Lord, saying:
"Lord, shall I not clad myself in thy servant's raiment?"
But the Lord said: "Take not the hermit's loincloth, Marco.
It goes poorly with your high heels."
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Maybe God will immortalize Rubio here so he doesn't become the most insufferable bore in Heaven.
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This made my day. Thank you.
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Sen. Cruz is repulsive in every way. If this is the best the GOP can scrape off the bottom of their barrel then that party really is over and done with, they have nothing to offer the American people, and as for all those evangelicals who are so easily manipulated I suggest they wake up and smell the coffee and see they are being used before they make yet another disastrous mistake that we all will live w/ and pay for i.e.: George W. Bush.
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What is laughable is that Trump sounds better than these other clowns, and when I say clowns I mean Cruz and Rubio.
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Yes, Trump will always tell you what you want to hear, no matter what it is. What is laughable is that anyone actually believes him.
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Maybe Cuba will emerge victorious from the US embargo.
Cruz is in a very strong position right now, chilling as that sounds. Even if Trump wins NH he has no chance in SC. His shtick doesn't sell among evangelicals let alone in the deep south. Cruz proved his appeal to evangelicals who dominate the Republican voting base in SC. And he's fluent in the language and cadence of the south. Rubio will need a strong showing in New Hampshire (better than 3rd) and a win in South Carolina to challenge Cruz. Bush, Kasich are irrelevant unless either of them by some miracle wins NH. Cruz is a dangerous man. Smart, well organized, cynical, phony, unwilling to compromise or even attempt to govern collaboratively. Unable and unwilling to offer solutions or even attempt to solve problems. Rubio is disturbingly similar. Who knew that Bush, Kasich and even Christie would be missed as better alternatives to this bunch.
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Cruz's daddy told the young Eduardo that he was immaculately conceived, and he continues to believe it.
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Trump is up 30 points in South Carolina.
Time to publish Ted Cruz's birth certificate............
Time for Congress and the Supreme Court to establish exactly what "natural born citizen" means.
Hawaii is a state; Alberta is a Canadian province.
Time for Congress and the Supreme Court to establish exactly what "natural born citizen" means.
Hawaii is a state; Alberta is a Canadian province.
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Hate Cruz, BUT his mother is/was an American citizen, automatically makes him a US citizen, just like anchor babies almost.
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Sen. Rubio has a very clear record of personal financial irresponsibility, and yet he's considered a viable candidate for the party of fiscal responsibility. Quite looking forward to that rationalization.
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I commented on this already last night, But i see the NYT insists on using the same headline-that Trump has been dealt a "humbling blow" I get it the Times can't stand Trump-but is that what happened? In a state of 3 million people,93% white, Trump had 5,000 fewer Caucus goers than Cruz.
It's not even a primary-let's see what happens going forward. Any newspaper that can't stand Trump, should be terrified of Cruz!
And the Times knoows we don't have a Pres. Huckabee, or Santorum, and Reagan lost in Iowa.
It's not even a primary-let's see what happens going forward. Any newspaper that can't stand Trump, should be terrified of Cruz!
And the Times knoows we don't have a Pres. Huckabee, or Santorum, and Reagan lost in Iowa.
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Amusing to read in this column the "analysis" of why the GOP caucus turned out the way it did! These pundits aren't great at predictions and they aren't great at analysis! It appears the voters outsmart them time and again!
Is this what we are left with: Cruz, Trump, Rubio? They make Mitt look like a viable candidate.
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And Romney still might be. Stranger things have happened in politics.
Can we finally move on from the irrelevant Iowa Causus' ? Its a useless exercise every four years yet our content challenged 24/7 media plays it like it really means something. It doesn't. Calling it a niche demographic would be giving the proud, white overtly religious citizens of Iowa too much credit. It holds no semblance to the general electorate.
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In downtown Rochester, New York, Church Street intersects State Street. With the Cruz win in Iowa, that symbolism is now, sadly, ever more poignant.
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As of 2012 Iowa is not winner take all. Doesn't this live Cruz, Rubio, and trump in a near tie, and Hillary and Bernie the same position?
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every dog has his day
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We have entered the Twilight Zone. Cruz is beyond scary.
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This outcome illustrates the Democrat dilettante problem. If young energized voters had turned out in these numbers in 2010 and 2014 the Obama administration would have been far more successful, and we'd all be much better off. Perhaps Sanders' near loss will help teach the importance of showing up.
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The fact that they neglected to turn out in the census year 2010 leaves no doubt that they are as politically useless as a militia in a war.
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I don't get Rubio at all.....Ok, he can walk & chew gum, but that's about it....He's a policy lightweight, absolutely no gravitas, & he can't speak off script....All Republicans are equally worthless, there isn't any GOP candiate w/any redeeming value....
Clinton 2016
Clinton 2016
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Well he can walk in heels which isn't always easy.
Cruz a winner in Iowa, like Santorum and Huckabee before him. Rubio a surprise in third: hardly, that has been predicted for weeks. The money will be behind Rubio. But he won't win NH probably because he doesn't know where it is. Trump may win in NH, then, we will seriously invoke the gods to rid us of Christie and Jeb BUSH. But they will still hang on, because in their own minds, they are the chosen ones. Sanders we love but he may undercut Hillary, who we are so tired of, and then, it may be clear path to the WH for a conservative with fixed mind and opinions and half of the country joyous at the prospect.
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At this point, it doesn't matter who the Republicans nominate among the top three. We know it will be a man with a dangerous worldview and intense ego of the sort that wrecks institutions and economies and starts unwinnable wars. These guys will make W look like Ike.
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"... the New Testament’s Second Book of Corinthians" Not quite the "correction to The Donald you were aiming for.
It's the Second Epistle (Letter) to the Corinthians.
New Yorkers - living up to the anti-Christian stereotype each and every day.
It's the Second Epistle (Letter) to the Corinthians.
New Yorkers - living up to the anti-Christian stereotype each and every day.
There are over five million Christians in New York City. Your remark would be offensive if it wasn't so ignorant.
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"Senator Ted Cruz ... dealt a humbling loss to Donald J. Trump"
You should check this claim with your math consultants. I would call 27.78% vs 24.3% a "near tie" not a "humbling loss".
You should check this claim with your math consultants. I would call 27.78% vs 24.3% a "near tie" not a "humbling loss".
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But it is to Trump. The rest of us couldn't care less about the results of the Iowa caucus.
C'mon Hillary and Bernie. Y'all are the only adults in the room.
Remember that Reality T.V. is just that....television.
We have a country in desperate need of leadership and you two are the only ones up to the task.
Don't blow it
The world is in your hands.
Remember that Reality T.V. is just that....television.
We have a country in desperate need of leadership and you two are the only ones up to the task.
Don't blow it
The world is in your hands.
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The big winner is Rubio. He is the kind of blindly-ambitious empty suit that the Republicans favor. He will do as he's told.
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Iowa did what Iowa does best- started the official Presidential election off by picking a loser. The message is clear- there is great divide in the Republican Party if three candidates can chop up 75% of the vote almost equally. That is the glaring memory of Iowa 2016- the "winner" at 28% edges out 2nd and 3rd place by only a few points. Yes, Ted Cruz wins however this is anything but a mandate. Expect Cruz to lose momentum in New Hampshire, and most likely not find it again.
The real story is Rubio. If he can do well in a predominantly white/'traditional values 'state, and 23% in a crowded field of 11 is "well", his prospects are strong. Now let us have a week's patience as I am hoping Chris Christie will announce suspension of his campaign when he falls flat in New Hampshire. Along with Santorum, Jeb and Carly.
The real story is Rubio. If he can do well in a predominantly white/'traditional values 'state, and 23% in a crowded field of 11 is "well", his prospects are strong. Now let us have a week's patience as I am hoping Chris Christie will announce suspension of his campaign when he falls flat in New Hampshire. Along with Santorum, Jeb and Carly.
Cruz is clever, having wrapped himself in the mantle of religion and hoodwinked Iowa's evangelical voters. But listen to him, watch him, and look at his past -- the only thing religious about him is that he may actually believe that he is God.
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I think Rubio will gain momentum from his strong finish. It's great to see a young person of color, who projects a positive image to the voters, as oppose to the snarling bitterness of BS and the shrill lies of HRC.
Marco Rubio is a person of color...in a world where the majority of people are albino.
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Rubio is a great projector of things. Projection is about all Rubio can do.
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Rubio won in every meaningful sense of the word.
Sanders ties Clinton, but that's a defeat for Sanders, and Rubio finishes third, but that's a victory for Rubio. The calculus here is beyond my (and others') comprehension.
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Looks like the person Trump shot in Manhattan was himself.
Actually, considering that he did everything wrong, The Donald did amazingly well. After insulting the citizenry, skipping a debate, putting his pseudo-Christianity on display, forgetting that part of the Art of the Deal is the art of organizing - any one of which alone should have sunk his campaign - he still got a solid second place. Meanwhile, Jeb! did everything right and got a solid 3%.
Actually, considering that he did everything wrong, The Donald did amazingly well. After insulting the citizenry, skipping a debate, putting his pseudo-Christianity on display, forgetting that part of the Art of the Deal is the art of organizing - any one of which alone should have sunk his campaign - he still got a solid second place. Meanwhile, Jeb! did everything right and got a solid 3%.
It's the 2nd Epistle or Letter to the Corinthians, it's not a book. If you're going to document Trump's inability to get it right, you should. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Epistle_to_the_Corinthians
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Trump likes crowds, applause, sycophants and press coverage. The details of running for political office? Not so much. Generate contributions from individuals as a measure of commitment? Losahs. Put lots of energy into developing a good ground game? Losahs. Every four years we are reminded of the value of the Iowa caucuses: the process favors those who can generate commitment and enthusiasm. Iowa is America's political focus group; how Iowans feel about a given candidate matters more than the numbers. But I find it interesting that Iowa evangelicals represent as much as 50 percent of Republican voters and Cruz did not win 50 percent of the vote. I will watch that number (who did evangelicals support, and why did they not support Cruz?) during the interminable analysis I will be watching in the next few days.
For perspective, this was not a significant win for anybody... just a virtual tie among three would-be candidates, none of whom is the least bit qualified to be President of the United States.
If any of them ends up nominated by the GOP, I can only hope their share of votes in the general election won't exceed the 20-some percent they gleaned in their Republicans-only contest in Iowa.
Otherwise, Welcome to the Theocratic States of America!
If any of them ends up nominated by the GOP, I can only hope their share of votes in the general election won't exceed the 20-some percent they gleaned in their Republicans-only contest in Iowa.
Otherwise, Welcome to the Theocratic States of America!
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Just for the record, it's "Second Corinthians" or "Paul's Second Letter to the Corinthians," not the "Second Book of Corinthians" as you state. Okay, maybe not quite as bad as "Two Corinthians," but I figured The Times would have a better grasp of this element of cultural literacy that isn't only the province of Evangelicals.
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I do salute Iowa Republican voters for rejecting, in no uncertain terms, the idea of a third Bush family member being the party's presidential nominee in the space of less than a quarter-century. There is no mistaking these data: George H.W. Bush got 32% in the Iowa caucuses when he won in 1980 and then a lower but still respectable 19% in the 1988 contest when he finished third. George W. Bush got 41% of the Iowa caucus vote in 2000 when he won easily.
Jeb Bush got less than 3% of the vote last night. That is an unmistakable repudiation and overall very good news for a Republican Party that is in turmoil but nevertheless moving on from relying on one very mediocre, entitled, unimpressive family.
Jeb Bush got less than 3% of the vote last night. That is an unmistakable repudiation and overall very good news for a Republican Party that is in turmoil but nevertheless moving on from relying on one very mediocre, entitled, unimpressive family.
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This election campaign may accomplish what I thought was impossible - getting me to vote for Hillary. I cannot see myself voting for either God's candidate, Cruz, or his own ego's candidate, Trump, under any circumstances. Is there any hope for Rubio? And Bush, who might actually do a good job, is disappearing beneath the political quicksand without a trace. Sigh.......
Let's hope Hillary is a pragmatic as Bill was - we did get a balanced budget for a while, albeit with the help of impeachment pressure.....
Let's hope Hillary is a pragmatic as Bill was - we did get a balanced budget for a while, albeit with the help of impeachment pressure.....
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The Republican race was and remains a Battle of the Demagogues.
It seems that Iowa caucusers prefer the old-fashioned style of Cruz, with a heavy coating of false humility and ersatz piety. Trump is the demagogue for a more modern, more narcissistic demographic. And Marco Rubio is cut from the same demagogic cloth, with middle-of-the-road tailoring. Just listen to him talk about his life and hard times. And when you see his platform, it's the same phony populism as the others:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/marco-rubio-believe-candidate-stands...
I'm almost going to miss the pseudo-jovial menacing hostility of Mike Huckabee. But not really.
On to the next round!
It seems that Iowa caucusers prefer the old-fashioned style of Cruz, with a heavy coating of false humility and ersatz piety. Trump is the demagogue for a more modern, more narcissistic demographic. And Marco Rubio is cut from the same demagogic cloth, with middle-of-the-road tailoring. Just listen to him talk about his life and hard times. And when you see his platform, it's the same phony populism as the others:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/marco-rubio-believe-candidate-stands...
I'm almost going to miss the pseudo-jovial menacing hostility of Mike Huckabee. But not really.
On to the next round!
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Rubio was the real winner in Iowa. I was a precinct captain and we had way over 200 folks in a school cafeteria. In our precinct alone, Cruz won but Rubio was only 6 votes behind and Trump was a distant 3rd. Given Rubio's many fine attributes, he will do well in New Hampshire and beyond. You are looking at the next John Kennedy as a young vibrant republican who will restore the greatness of America.
Vote for NO democrats in 2016.
Vote for NO democrats in 2016.
I don't have a dog in the fight, but rubio's speech was so full of lies, I couldn't believe that he believed anything he was saying. also, public speaking seems to make this guy dry up like a desert. he needs some sort of IV when he talks.....
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Mercifully, the Iowa nonsense is over for another four years. Mr. Cruz can now take his place among the Iowa Walk of Shame. President Santorum. President Huckabee. And now President Cruz. All political footnotes in the yet-to-be written history book on American politics titled ``Caucuses, Crazies and Cash: How Know-Nothings Captivate A Silly Nation.''
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Cruz is much scarier than Trump for one reason: he believes that his hatred, closed-mindedness, and hypocrisy are actually sanctioned by God.
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NYT doesn't like Trump, is all this shows. Cruz about 27 percent, Trump about 24, Rubio 'bout 23---pick 'em. Cruz is snarky and smarmy and selling refried Reagan. Trump is--well--Trump! (He wears the exclamation point better than Jeb (!) (?) ) Rubio is the dark horse for now, ready to move up on the inside. None except Trump has executive experience of any sort. Spare us any more escapee Senators! Modern method orators don't make good presidents. Reagan, awful as he was overall, at least knew how to govern, as he had done some time in the Governor's chair. In fact he presided over the last golden age of California. Cruz is Reagan without substance. What have Rubio and Cruz ever done but wrecking? Rubio doesn't even have a track record of wrecking. And so it goes.....
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Help me understand this whole "Iowa Caucus" thing.
Iowa has a total population of 3M. It's demographic is wildly unrepresentative of the rest of the United States, being vastly more rural, white, and Evangelical than most of the rest of the country.
On the Republican side, only about 200K came out to caucus (less than 7% of the population of the State.) The top three candidates garnered around 50K votes each.
On the Democratic side, a GRAND TOTAL of 1200 voters caucused (0.04% of the population of the State.) 600 voted for Hillary. 600 voted for Bernie.
And yet the media, which more or less hides the raw numbers and presents only percentages, leaves the rest of the country with the impression that this vote is somehow "meaningful". The NYT should make a point of informing their reading public in a high profile manner the size of the turnout when presenting the percentages. Anything less borders on misrepresentation and obfuscation. Instead of saying "Hillary and Bernie tie in extremely close vote", add that each got a whopping 600 votes. Then listen to the laughter ensue as people realize that the entire venture is a joke.
Why does any of this have ANY relevance to ANYTHING? Just because an election is first doesn't make it important. The media fixation on Iowa for the past year gives outsized importance to what should be a non-event.
Iowa has a total population of 3M. It's demographic is wildly unrepresentative of the rest of the United States, being vastly more rural, white, and Evangelical than most of the rest of the country.
On the Republican side, only about 200K came out to caucus (less than 7% of the population of the State.) The top three candidates garnered around 50K votes each.
On the Democratic side, a GRAND TOTAL of 1200 voters caucused (0.04% of the population of the State.) 600 voted for Hillary. 600 voted for Bernie.
And yet the media, which more or less hides the raw numbers and presents only percentages, leaves the rest of the country with the impression that this vote is somehow "meaningful". The NYT should make a point of informing their reading public in a high profile manner the size of the turnout when presenting the percentages. Anything less borders on misrepresentation and obfuscation. Instead of saying "Hillary and Bernie tie in extremely close vote", add that each got a whopping 600 votes. Then listen to the laughter ensue as people realize that the entire venture is a joke.
Why does any of this have ANY relevance to ANYTHING? Just because an election is first doesn't make it important. The media fixation on Iowa for the past year gives outsized importance to what should be a non-event.
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No, the Republican counts reflect raw voter numbers; the Democrats are virtual delegate counts (out of a pool of 1200 delegates, each candidate is awarded a percentage), so it has nothing to do with actual turnout of live voters.
While the caucus population relative to the overall is rather small, the turnout, at least on the Republican side, was the largest ever, so it was significant in that respect.
While the caucus population relative to the overall is rather small, the turnout, at least on the Republican side, was the largest ever, so it was significant in that respect.
Except that more than 170,000 Iowans participated in the Democratic caucuses.
The time has come to make the Iowa caucus a thing of the past...The election cycle is too long and too costly...The election cycle should be September and October before the November election, 2 months and done... a few debates and free air time, then you have to stick to the issues.
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get rid of private money in politics then
only public money allowed, and campaigns limited to 6 weeks
ahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhaahahahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaaaaa
oh, lordy, i needed a laugh
only public money allowed, and campaigns limited to 6 weeks
ahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhaahahahaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhaaaaa
oh, lordy, i needed a laugh
A terrific honor for The Three Stooges, Rubio, Cruz, and Trump. They have clearly won the support of Iowa's craziest citizens.
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Mr. Martin, this belongs on the Editorial page, it's very far from reporting.
Crus won with support of a football stadium full of voters - Big Fat Hairy Deal!
Why doesn't the Times just come out for Rubio and be honest about it?
Crus won with support of a football stadium full of voters - Big Fat Hairy Deal!
Why doesn't the Times just come out for Rubio and be honest about it?
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Humbling loss? For a person who was treated as a political joke and had no experience in the political machinery to get out the vote, Mr. Trump's second place is still remarkable. To continue to insist that Mr. Trump "isn't real", as David Brooks is saying today, is to deny the facts of who Mr. Trump beat (and who would have traded their political soul for a close second place).
I'd say Jeb Bush (who blew tens of millions of dollars and his family name), Chris Christie (who could have nearly phoned in the nomination 4 years ago), Ben Carson (who surged early and fell), and Carly Fiorina (who was the supposed darling at the early debates then disappeared) were all much more humbled.
I'd say Jeb Bush (who blew tens of millions of dollars and his family name), Chris Christie (who could have nearly phoned in the nomination 4 years ago), Ben Carson (who surged early and fell), and Carly Fiorina (who was the supposed darling at the early debates then disappeared) were all much more humbled.
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Don't think Cruz is acceptable to all Christians. I find his lack of love telling. As a traditional conservative way out of the Republican main stream now I believe in incremental change. Cruz and other radical Republicans could find common ground with the loyal opposition and make progress on social goals. But no , it is my way or the highway so nothing gets done. They love wedge issues but not so much actually solving problems. Who ever the Democrats nominate will get my vote in the fall.
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Well, The Donald has had his 15 minutes of fame (or infamy). Now what? Will he continue to compete after New Hampshire or will he take his toys and go home to sulk in his tree house condo in Manhattan?
Congratulations CNN, FOX and MSNBC! You ALMOST picked the the right winner for the GOP nomination last night in Iowa with your tireless, concise polling, research and coverage – Trump almost won! Good job! Much like the presidential election in 2012 with your excellent analysis that ALMOST correctly picked Romney over Obama, you show how valuable you are with your ALMOST accurate political trends! Congratulations!
Let’s remember that Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee were the last two Republican winners of the Iowa caucuses. Look where that got them.
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He was born in Canada. Where are the Birthers when we need them? Why is he even being allowed to participate?
You mean the "Carpet Bomber" won with the help of the Evangelical Christian? Wow, miracles never cease!
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The Iowa caucus should go down as a travesty for political polling. From the first Trump's astonishing poll standing validated his candidacy. He regularly invoked it to put down his competitors. Yet polling consistently inflated his standing by assuming, incorrectly, that he'd have the same ability to convert a preference into an actual vote as the other candidates. And obviously he did not; he skipped the "ground game," building the structure needed to turn out the vote.
Polling is intended to predict actual votes, not raw voter preferences. By failing to look hard at the unorthodox Trump candidacy, the pollsters fed his unbeatable reputation and badly misled those who depended upon them. It was worse than Dewey beats Truman.
Polling is intended to predict actual votes, not raw voter preferences. By failing to look hard at the unorthodox Trump candidacy, the pollsters fed his unbeatable reputation and badly misled those who depended upon them. It was worse than Dewey beats Truman.
Iowans vote on "shared values", which is fine; at least they vote. The majority of Republican electoral votes come from states whose voters pay more attention to policies, positions and electability.
I don't much care who the Republicans field as the votes aren't there to elect a Republican President. In the end, Republican internecine warfare, which will be n full display after Super Tuesday, will do them all in at the ballot box.
Every time I see Ted Cruz and Donald Trump I can't help but visualize both in South American Generals' uniforms with false medals and lots of scrambled eggs on their covers. Too funny, really, as they strut like chickens in the yard.
I don't much care who the Republicans field as the votes aren't there to elect a Republican President. In the end, Republican internecine warfare, which will be n full display after Super Tuesday, will do them all in at the ballot box.
Every time I see Ted Cruz and Donald Trump I can't help but visualize both in South American Generals' uniforms with false medals and lots of scrambled eggs on their covers. Too funny, really, as they strut like chickens in the yard.
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Excellent reporting. I like the bit about "Two Corinthians," demonstrating Trump's lack of authenticity.
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I'm kind of amazed by the emphasis in this article placed on Mr. Trump's lack of caucus organization. He lost by 3 points in a state that is unique in the early states from holding voting this way, won some delegates, in a state that Cruz built his whole organization around. If Trump beats Cruz by 15 points in NH, he goes into South Carolina in a far stronger position. And, in a statement that shows the true ridiculousness of this race, both NH and SC are closer to Mr. Trump's homes, which, since he doesn't like to sleep away from home, actually matters in terms of his time on the ground campaigning (sigh).
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I think the emphasis is there because Trump had been shown to be leading in several polls leading up to the caucuses, and had his ground game been there, he could've won. So it was a squandered opportunity.
What is wrong with the presidential election. 1- None of the candidates is honest 2- None of them seem to be qualified for the job 3- Their egos is beyond the needs of the country. 4- Based an election in the state that is the least representative of believes, needs and diversity of a country of near 300 million people. 5- Use religion to campaign where it should be a separation of state and church. Almost like been in an ISIS mood but with different religious speeches.
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Winning by only 4.6% over third place does not a huge victory make. That the 3 candidates are separated by less than 5% clearly indicates huge rifts in the party and among voters. This is a hollow victory for Cruz and an affirmation for Trump and Rubio. Only time will tell which of the 3 can manage a clear lead among voters.
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"A humbling loss"? 3% margin in a low-population state? You must be kidding. Or substituting your political spin for journalism. Probably the latter.
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I see Jeb! spent $14 million in Iowa. For 5,000 votes. That's $2,800 a vote. Why do we need campaign finance reform? Jeb! is bleeding the plutocrats dry.
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Rubio won a firm last place among the big ones. This is a back hand compliment. He couldn't convince the same rural crowd who voted for the Cannuck. This actually relegates him to the back burner. Let's see how, and if, Trump recovers from this kick in the derriere.
I bet Trump quits inside of a week.
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Ted Cruz wins! Iowa loses!
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Trump just barely finished in 2nd,only 1 % ahead of Rubio.And it's not as if Cruz roared to victory,because finishing 1st with just 28 % of the vote isn't a resounding voter endorsement.No one reaching 30 % hints more strongly than ever that the GOP will face a Convention deadlocked between Trump,Cruz and Rubio.Last night was so different an outcome from the media predictions a year ago that it would be a battle between Scott Walker and Jeb (?).
Dang! If that Palin speech had only made a little more sense...
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Trump: Loser
Feels good to say that.
Feels good to say that.
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As Churchill once remarked, the best argument against democracy is the average voter. Does that ever fit in spades about Iowa republicans and voting for that Texas hypocrite, Cruz. He knows how to blather the religiousy blather all right. Fools the heck out of the horrid evangelical Bible Bangers out there. He's a real follower of Jesus he is. ...Wants to get rid of anything like universal affordable health care and let the poor go hang, wants to give big tax breaks (for the rich), and subsidies to the corn growers (but not for food, but alcohol for gasoline: more money for the rich growers). Yessiree, he's a real Jesusian...NOT! But the stupid religiosi are obviously too dumb to notice the contradiction.
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Sanders wants free college education, who is paying for that?
How about the obscene rich who have put everyone else in the poorhouse??? They'd be a good start!!
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Justme - Smart people who know that an educated populace means greater economic security for all of us. Well educated people don't end up in expensive prisons, they earn more and pay more into our tax system etc.
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The author of this story writes about a "humbling" loss for Trump.If that isn't yellow journalism,then what is?Trump will win decisively in NH next week.If the Times wants to tell us about a true humbling loss,just write about Hillary's performance against Bernie.
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Ahem: "A humbling win" is more accurate.
One modest question, if this finish had been predicted for Donald Trump six month ago, would anyone had believed it? For a man who seemingly had nothing in common with Iowa voters, no political experience, and campaign expenditures one tenth of the opposition, it is an unbelievable success. The fact that Ted Cruz with 12,000 volunteers managed to win in his backyard is not surprising. Iowa is to Ted Cruz what New Hampshire is to Bernie Sanders. He had to win. To think that Trump will be crushed by this outcome neglects the fact that a couple bankruptcies didn't slow him down. This is just a blip in his career.
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No one on the planet earth cares who Iowans (mainly evangelicals) think should be President. They are noise. Let me know about California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania.
However, you need to fill your news space every day, so you report it as though it were important. But that causes a major problem: It distorts the rest of the primary elections.
Because humans are biologically programmed to do what everyone else does, future voters think Iowa and New Hampshire election results are important; they aren't.
You need to emphasize to your readers that Iowa and New Hampshire are insignificant to the final national vote count and that your readers, who haven't voted yet, should make up their own minds.
Thank you.
However, you need to fill your news space every day, so you report it as though it were important. But that causes a major problem: It distorts the rest of the primary elections.
Because humans are biologically programmed to do what everyone else does, future voters think Iowa and New Hampshire election results are important; they aren't.
You need to emphasize to your readers that Iowa and New Hampshire are insignificant to the final national vote count and that your readers, who haven't voted yet, should make up their own minds.
Thank you.
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Hardly a defeat. Trump is not a professional Washington politico and coming from a no politician background, with no fund raising (other than a mere $2 million), relying solely on the mass media and his own personal motivation, 2nd place is pretty good. Frankly, Cruz should be looking over his shoulder.
Of course the Times played this as Trump defeat since its always great to denigrate the conservative in the pack. Soon, the Times will denigrate Cruz, et. al.
I remember the savage attacks by this paper on Nixon so well and yet we now have a presidential candidate who incredibly either through stupidity or reckless conduct violated federal law. Where's the news when its really fit to print.
Of course the Times played this as Trump defeat since its always great to denigrate the conservative in the pack. Soon, the Times will denigrate Cruz, et. al.
I remember the savage attacks by this paper on Nixon so well and yet we now have a presidential candidate who incredibly either through stupidity or reckless conduct violated federal law. Where's the news when its really fit to print.
Worse possible outcome: Ted Cruz. Pretentious, wrapped in God. The Iowa caucus turns out to be less than 20% of the eleigable voters and Cruz got 27% of that! In a state of God, guns and ethanol subsidies that make no sense.
As you move more and more to a theocracy, you move farther away from democracy! Ted Cruz, theocrat.
As you move more and more to a theocracy, you move farther away from democracy! Ted Cruz, theocrat.
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Rubio's "victory" speech last night was filled with the most vitriol I have heard in a republican politician since Dick Cheney. The expression on his face was filled with such hatred that I had to shut the set. His "we're going to take back our country" reminds one of the third reich or some other totalitarian state mantra. Not one single theme to run on for him and his cohorts. Just the drip drip drip of attack,hatred, and xenophobia.
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i continue to be amazed at what and *whom* can pass for "christian values" in certain parts of this country.
when reality steps in, with other states who have more at stake in this election than iowa, we may see what other values the rest of us are looking for in these candidates - whomever remains, that is.
when reality steps in, with other states who have more at stake in this election than iowa, we may see what other values the rest of us are looking for in these candidates - whomever remains, that is.
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Wow what a banner headline: "humbling defeat" for Trump. Would the Times really rather see a Princeton Cum Laude, fundamentalist lunatic with several national debating championships as the Republican candidate? I'll take the offensive, loud-mouthed reality show populist any day. But maybe it's the Goldman connection with Cruz's wife the Times prefers. A Clinton-Cruz face off being like, you know, a total win-win for Lloyd Blankfein
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Governor Terry E, Branstad was the biggest loser. Branstad declared "vote for anyone but Cruz." Well, Governor how did that workout for you? Ethanol lobbyists cannot buy their way into winning in Iowa. No matter who is the eventual nominee, yesterday was an historic victory for the people over big business!
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Donald Trump, What a LOSER!
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Rubio keeps talking about his relationship with his Creator.
Does he mean casino mogul Sheldon Adelson?
Does he mean casino mogul Sheldon Adelson?
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1) It was clear that Cruz had the ground game to get people to the caucuses, and so Saturday's poll was a surprise that had Trump ahead. Trump's lack of religiosity hurt him even less than I would have expected. I think we know nothing about Trump's chances until the primaries move to the South. (Recall McCain looked like the nominee in 2000 until Karl Rove did the "McCain black baby" push-poll to 270,000 rural households.)
2) Rubio and Cruz poured enormous and desperate effort into Iowa, to good effect. Rubio is surely working the "establishment" as hard as he can to push Bush out of the election so that the "establishment" can coalesce around Rubio. The problem is that Rubio oozes dishonesty and smarm. Senators un-liked in the Senate are bound to have further problems.
3) I still wonder if the establishment can "get its way" with Bush despite his sorrowful showing to-date.
In short, Trump did better than anyone expected 6 weeks ago in Iowa, and only the recent polls made him now look like he "lost." Rubio did better than expected, and the establishment may run screaming to him as the anti-Trump. It is possible that by the end of the month Republicans are down to a three-man race.
2) Rubio and Cruz poured enormous and desperate effort into Iowa, to good effect. Rubio is surely working the "establishment" as hard as he can to push Bush out of the election so that the "establishment" can coalesce around Rubio. The problem is that Rubio oozes dishonesty and smarm. Senators un-liked in the Senate are bound to have further problems.
3) I still wonder if the establishment can "get its way" with Bush despite his sorrowful showing to-date.
In short, Trump did better than anyone expected 6 weeks ago in Iowa, and only the recent polls made him now look like he "lost." Rubio did better than expected, and the establishment may run screaming to him as the anti-Trump. It is possible that by the end of the month Republicans are down to a three-man race.
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Trump did well and by being second he can be the underdog; Trump is very comfortable being the underdog. What about all the Republican candidates that got less votes than Rand Paul who came in 5th place. If they also do poorly in NH, it seems that they are done.
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Trump does not like losers. His supporters will show that they do not like losers either. That hissing sound is hot air escaping from an over-inflated ego.
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The establishment favorite exceeded the establishment expectations.
"President Cruz" has a nice ring to it.
It disgusts me.
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This independent, who has nearly always voted Republican, will cross over to the other side if Cruz were to get the nomination. I still view that as very very unlikely. He has been an obstructionist. Dumping the ACA is a typical Cruz move. Don't legislate change via compromise - obstruct. His tax plan is idiotic. His evangelical appeal seems odd at best given how adept he is with twisting the facts (compliments of his college debate team prowess). His style of speech is mixture of condescension and theater which personally makes my skin crawl. I hope we come back to earth in the next few states.
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Republicans have another Goldwater fiasco ahead of them.
And the world will be grateful.
And the world will be grateful.
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So much emphasis on a Cruz win. This is the first of many primaries and hopefully it is not too late for a sane Republican candidate to come to the fore.
In the meantime, Bernie holds his own in Iowa and should do well in New Hampshire. I would say that Hillary is feeling the Bern today.
In the meantime, Bernie holds his own in Iowa and should do well in New Hampshire. I would say that Hillary is feeling the Bern today.
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A meager 3 per cent advantage is not a landslide, and all three of them still have a running chance. Don't kid yourself. The night is young, like America.
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Of the three front runners I don't know who is scarier? The constituency backing these three, is as scary! U.S. is going back to the Salem witch trials!
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This article would be more meaningful if the news media cared to investigate where are the caucus locations. If a good number of the caucus locations are in evangelical churches, then I would say that it is no wonder Ted Cruz scored 4% higher than Donald Trump. The miracle is that Donald Trump scored only 4% lower than Ted Cruz.
I do know that I happened to be driving in Oklahoma on an election day about 4 years ago (having already voted absentee in my home state as I knew I would be away) and I noticed that many of the poling places were in Churches. Also, church buses were taking loads of people to vote. Makes you wonder. Shouldn't the location of the poling places be a part of any reporters story if, indeed, the caucus and voting places are in some churches at all??? I tried to find the caucus locations online and apparently it is secret. You have to sign into the Republican site and give your exact address. Hmmm
I do know that I happened to be driving in Oklahoma on an election day about 4 years ago (having already voted absentee in my home state as I knew I would be away) and I noticed that many of the poling places were in Churches. Also, church buses were taking loads of people to vote. Makes you wonder. Shouldn't the location of the poling places be a part of any reporters story if, indeed, the caucus and voting places are in some churches at all??? I tried to find the caucus locations online and apparently it is secret. You have to sign into the Republican site and give your exact address. Hmmm
I'm amazed that nobody ever points out that Donald Trump habitually repeats phrases, one after another. It is a classic sign of a liar. —It is a classic sign of a liar.— (But I'm telling the truth!)
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Kasich, Bush, Christie, are all more qualified then Cruz, Rubio, etc..Trump is the other side of show biz Obama, without the patience.,and stealth priorities
(see Iran deal on .gov website)
(see Iran deal on .gov website)
I can imagine Jesus Cruz leading the republicans into battle screaming "carpet bomb, carpet bomb! Make them glow, make them glow!"
Or Jesus Rubio arresting all Muslims and sending them to Guantanamo to "extract all they know", believe him.
I am so relieved that the choice is no longer between right and left but between sanity and whatever is the most extreme opposite of that.
Or Jesus Rubio arresting all Muslims and sending them to Guantanamo to "extract all they know", believe him.
I am so relieved that the choice is no longer between right and left but between sanity and whatever is the most extreme opposite of that.
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All money should be on Rubio in November for the Republicans. He will have it sown up in March. Trump's fade will be breath-taking, Cruz's unmasking will take a little longer. Game over. BTW, it means Ross Douthat has been right about this, and my hope of a mortally-wounded Republican nominee will not unfold. The "Republican JFK" (image alone, not substance)) will be a formidable opponent. All hope rests in the "political revolution" Sanders is calling for, for if Bernie's foot soldiers stay engaged through the general election, even if Hillary wins the nomination, the Democrats can maintain the White House. If Hillary is the nominee and Bernie's troops leave the arena completely all bets are off.
Donald Trump humbled? Really?
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Iowans perhaps a little afraid of Trump... not exactly Trump Country ... perhaps
it has something to do with switch grass versus corn for ethanol production???
it has something to do with switch grass versus corn for ethanol production???
Rubio is anti science but he knows what Jesus thinks..........what an idiot.
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I believe that there is a higher source of power and that we don't understand the universe entirely......but about the only fact I can verify in all of that is that IT IS A BELIEF AND NOT A FACT. You know what else is a fact? That our framers specifically wanted SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!
Which is why "glory to the God" stuff is really offensive to me, and which is why I "yelled" all that above in caps.
Contrary to Mr. Cruz, however, I do have a moral compass..... My New York values are such that they believe that people ought to live as full life as possible.
It's why I believe in marriage equality, for one thing. Why would "God" object to love? It's why I don't believe in the death penalty. Why I support universal healthcare, access to education to all, and belief fervently in the rights of women to own their own bodies. Why I believe in diplomacy over war.
It's why I respect different creeds, even the creed of stupid that Donald Trump adheres to..... Ok well that last one was a stretch, that's true.
However, when you have the most arguably second odious of the bunch covering himself in a Jesus blanket and practically suggesting he is anointed, I am annoyed. More than annoyed because if he gets elected, that same arrogant philosophy that makes him believe he is privy to a degree of grace denied to others is going to be our President.
How scary is that?
That specter alone is worth praying about. Getting off the computer and going to light a candle. ;-)
Which is why "glory to the God" stuff is really offensive to me, and which is why I "yelled" all that above in caps.
Contrary to Mr. Cruz, however, I do have a moral compass..... My New York values are such that they believe that people ought to live as full life as possible.
It's why I believe in marriage equality, for one thing. Why would "God" object to love? It's why I don't believe in the death penalty. Why I support universal healthcare, access to education to all, and belief fervently in the rights of women to own their own bodies. Why I believe in diplomacy over war.
It's why I respect different creeds, even the creed of stupid that Donald Trump adheres to..... Ok well that last one was a stretch, that's true.
However, when you have the most arguably second odious of the bunch covering himself in a Jesus blanket and practically suggesting he is anointed, I am annoyed. More than annoyed because if he gets elected, that same arrogant philosophy that makes him believe he is privy to a degree of grace denied to others is going to be our President.
How scary is that?
That specter alone is worth praying about. Getting off the computer and going to light a candle. ;-)
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Light one for me as well. I'll see you at the voting booth in November.
Iowa is a great state with great people. But this caucusing ritual, and the attendant media frenzy that surrounds it, is ridiculous. A straight up or down vote has more relevance and meaning in our electoral system. Having groups of local political groupies clustering in different corners of a local middle school gym, playing Red Rover, should not be a harbinger of what is to come in the primaries.
I tell ya, folks, Ted Cruz is a Rod Serling Twilight Zone alien or, worse, a being straight from the demented world of H.P. Lovecraft. The skin is just a wrapper.
So Cruz gets 1/3 of the evangelical fundamentalist crowd and with these "humbles" Donald and his Trumpeteers. These Christians are, mind you, of the same mold as the Branch Davisians, late of Waco, TX. And Cruz makes David Koresh seem reasonable. At lease Koresh kept his megalomania confined to his compound. Cruz seeks slightly larger digs.
The sanest thing Iowa Republicans did last night was to give Rubio a decent showing. Bear in mind when I say "sanest" I mean "least crazy."
In preparation for the New Hampshire revival I strongly recommend you open your missal to the liturgy of St.s Emerson, Lake and Palmer, "Karn Evil 9."
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So Cruz gets 1/3 of the evangelical fundamentalist crowd and with these "humbles" Donald and his Trumpeteers. These Christians are, mind you, of the same mold as the Branch Davisians, late of Waco, TX. And Cruz makes David Koresh seem reasonable. At lease Koresh kept his megalomania confined to his compound. Cruz seeks slightly larger digs.
The sanest thing Iowa Republicans did last night was to give Rubio a decent showing. Bear in mind when I say "sanest" I mean "least crazy."
In preparation for the New Hampshire revival I strongly recommend you open your missal to the liturgy of St.s Emerson, Lake and Palmer, "Karn Evil 9."
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
We're so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside...
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Trump loves Iowa so much he "might come back and buy a farm." Everything this guy says comes straight from the heart - sincere, honest, factual. This particular reality series continues for a few more weeks, but the end is in sight. And oh, what a relief that will be.
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Where is there mention and an in-depth accounting of how the Evangelical Movement was the chief difference in the Republican Causcus results?
The Evangelicals once again skew something and it is not given the mention it deserves. They are a one-trick pony that has given Ted Cruz this victory even though the leaders of the Republican Party is at odds with Cruz who they find disruptive and not someone who stands for what they do.
The Evangelicals once again skew something and it is not given the mention it deserves. They are a one-trick pony that has given Ted Cruz this victory even though the leaders of the Republican Party is at odds with Cruz who they find disruptive and not someone who stands for what they do.
What would Jesus say to us if we told him we did not care about the thirsty poor, the hungry, homeless, disabled and marginalized members of our society. Is that not the general welfare? To those who much is given, much is expected, a call that must be heard in a time of inequality of opportunity and wealth. As Americans, we must walk the pathway to perfection of the union, not division. Secession is not an option as all voices must be heard, all stories must be told, and all hands must work together to find a personal pathway to building a stronger United States of America. Courage is fear that holds on a minute longer.
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Cruz is a fraud. He is an angry racial and religious bigot, to say nothing of his disdain for women. He is like a three year old screaming to get his way. He obviously does not understand democracy which respects and encourages all -- no matter what their racial, sexual, or religious preference. Cruz, a child of immigrants, would deny the freedoms he and his family have enjoyed to others who want the same opportunities. Shame on you, Cruz.
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Marco Rubio and Trump are pretty close to second place. Would it not be worth asking who is the second preference of the Trump voters? who is the second preference of the Rubio voters?
That would tell us who would win if one of the two were to drop out.
Anyway, I will be surprised if Cruz can carry New Hampshire.
So "Cruz defeats Trump" is far too pre-mature a headline.
That would tell us who would win if one of the two were to drop out.
Anyway, I will be surprised if Cruz can carry New Hampshire.
So "Cruz defeats Trump" is far too pre-mature a headline.
Lots of Sanders supporters are noting that Hilary Clinton smugly declared victory before jetting to New Hampshire and flip flopped by advocating for a single payer system.
Clearly, Sander's predominately male base has tuned out this woman. She did not do/say either of these things. She graciously thanked the people who voted for her, praised Mr. Sanders, and advocated for universal healthcare.
These are types of comments from the Sanders' base that are off putting for an undecided democratic female voter such as myself.
Clearly, Sander's predominately male base has tuned out this woman. She did not do/say either of these things. She graciously thanked the people who voted for her, praised Mr. Sanders, and advocated for universal healthcare.
These are types of comments from the Sanders' base that are off putting for an undecided democratic female voter such as myself.
I see from the results that Chris Christie received 1.8% of the votes. This is behind power candidates like Rand Paul and Ben Carson. The good news is that he will never be president. The bad news is that he will be coming back to New Jersey. Perhaps he should reconsider, with 1.8% of the votes perhaps Christie could stay in Iowa as road kill inspector.
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An educated observer from another part of the world who is unfamiliar with our process would look at Iowa's demographics and economy ask:
"Iowa?
Iowa... really?
Why is Iowa given so much sway in every presidential election?"
The political dogma needs to change, my state's primary hasn't mattered in almost 50 years.
"Iowa?
Iowa... really?
Why is Iowa given so much sway in every presidential election?"
The political dogma needs to change, my state's primary hasn't mattered in almost 50 years.
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The Palin curse takes down Trump.
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Marco Rubio has all the qualifications and qualities needed to be a successful salesman in a quite swanky car dealership. Who knows, perhaps one day even assistant manager.
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Marco, calm down. You came in third. If he ever wins a primary, he'll be insufferable.
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I find him insufferable already.
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Should he win the nomination, of God forbid, the election he might well prove deadly. Both he and Cruz have less experience than Obama did and that didn't work out real well did it?
Here we have a man that would like to bring Christian Sharia law to "our" great nation, as he likes to refer to it to other religious zealots. Scary stuff, but mostly an illustration of the total irrelevancy of Iowa on the national electoral stage.
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"DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN"
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Appears religion has trumped Trump.
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Evangelicals will kill this country.
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I would respectfully request that all candidates pledge that if any form of deity would personally contact them, before they would act on whatever the purpose of said experience, they would promise to tell someone in authority (preferably several public figures and the family physician) of such incident.
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While Mr. Cruz is not likely to be as extreme as the radicalized Islamic fundamentalists, there is still good reason to be concerned. Those who govern with God on their side can definitely pose problems.
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If Ben Carson hadn't died in late 2015, he might have gotten a greater proportion of the 'wing nut' vote and Trump would have prevailed.
If Trump really wants it, he can give Rubio a bigger boat and distract him.
If Trump really wants it, he can give Rubio a bigger boat and distract him.
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Hang on.... I am missing something? Does this article state that Ted Cruz received 28% of the vote of 185,000 people residing in a state with a population of 3.1 million people? I'm not sure this "victory" actually means anything. Unless I am not understanding how this caucus process works...
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The evangelicals voted for a candidate that proposed carpet bombing. Would Jesus have done that?
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Ted talks face to face with Jesus every day. Ted knows that Jesus favor Goldman-Sacks and carpet bombing anyone who stands opposed to them. This is personal with Jesus and Ted. They are bros.
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No, Jesus and Ted are not brothers, but he does talk to him face to face. Ted is looking into a mirror when he does.
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Then again Jesus is not running for POTUS. But I recall God wiping out the whole world population according to the Old Testament, except for Noah and his family. Would Jesus have done that? Well, if you believe in the Holly Trinity, and God and Jesus are one and the same, then you have the answer. But, of course first you have to be a believer.
Regardless of Cruz's religiosity, a POTUS first responsibility is to protect this nation and the American people and supersedes a POTUS personal religious beliefs. It has always been the case for any President. Hypocritical, perhaps, nevertheless, reality.
Regardless of Cruz's religiosity, a POTUS first responsibility is to protect this nation and the American people and supersedes a POTUS personal religious beliefs. It has always been the case for any President. Hypocritical, perhaps, nevertheless, reality.
The big question for me was would Trump win Iowa. I suspected not but am very glad he did not win.
The Republican caucus voter in Iowa is very conservative and so it's not surprising Cruz won coupled with his convenient (for this election) anti-Washington stance. But Cruz will not have staying power as the nomination moves on. He's too conservative, blames all our woes on Obamacare and "Big Government." He offers nothing positive that will help the middle class except a vent for their anger.
He's hated by the Repiblican establishment not because he's a reformer but because he's an arrogant and shameful self-promoter who blames everyone else for the country's problems and spent his time in the Senate pulling stunts to gain attention.
His "vision" forward is a litany of things he's against which sounds like a laundry list from the 0.1% who want less taxes and government regulation in every form so they can do as they please and amass even more wealth.
The Republican caucus voter in Iowa is very conservative and so it's not surprising Cruz won coupled with his convenient (for this election) anti-Washington stance. But Cruz will not have staying power as the nomination moves on. He's too conservative, blames all our woes on Obamacare and "Big Government." He offers nothing positive that will help the middle class except a vent for their anger.
He's hated by the Repiblican establishment not because he's a reformer but because he's an arrogant and shameful self-promoter who blames everyone else for the country's problems and spent his time in the Senate pulling stunts to gain attention.
His "vision" forward is a litany of things he's against which sounds like a laundry list from the 0.1% who want less taxes and government regulation in every form so they can do as they please and amass even more wealth.
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"With the top finishers a businessman who had never run for office and two first-term senators, governing experience evidently mattered little to Iowans." We have reached the point where the "Republican Party" is neither.
Cruz has just EIGHT delegates to Trump's SEVEN.
Let's see who's strutting around after Hew Hampshire. It's the DELEGATE COUNT. That counts folks.
Let's see who's strutting around after Hew Hampshire. It's the DELEGATE COUNT. That counts folks.
People who watch polls carefully, and I like to think I do, noticed that one poll surveyed Republican voters in Iowa who were actually probably going to participate in caucuses. That poll put Cruz decidedly ahead of Trump. The others, that had Trump leading, were surveying all Republicans, not just likely voters.
If there's any surprise, it is that the empty suit, Marco Rubio, finished so close to Trump.
But let us not forget that Ted Cruz's victory is because he received currently 51,649 votes. It will take, probably, 80 million votes to win the White House. So he has 0.06% of the votes he needs, or 6/10,000ths. Yet SO much is made of these miniscule, teensy vote totals. I think Cruz's victory speech had more words than he had votes.
On the other side, Clinton was expected to win and technically did, but the results were close enough that it's a tie and she and Sanders will split the delegates at stake. Perhaps this will indicate to her that with Bernie, policy debates are a far more effective tool than getting down in the mud as an attack dog.
Ironic, isn't it, that the BEST strategy to win the Dem primary votes is NOT to go negative and personal, but to stick to policy differences? Who'da thunk?
If there's any surprise, it is that the empty suit, Marco Rubio, finished so close to Trump.
But let us not forget that Ted Cruz's victory is because he received currently 51,649 votes. It will take, probably, 80 million votes to win the White House. So he has 0.06% of the votes he needs, or 6/10,000ths. Yet SO much is made of these miniscule, teensy vote totals. I think Cruz's victory speech had more words than he had votes.
On the other side, Clinton was expected to win and technically did, but the results were close enough that it's a tie and she and Sanders will split the delegates at stake. Perhaps this will indicate to her that with Bernie, policy debates are a far more effective tool than getting down in the mud as an attack dog.
Ironic, isn't it, that the BEST strategy to win the Dem primary votes is NOT to go negative and personal, but to stick to policy differences? Who'da thunk?
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Interesting that Iowa Republicans have selected a man whose main claim to fame was shutting down the Federal government, as their choice to head the next Federal government.
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Cruz as expected came in first in Iowa, but it was The Donald who stole the show with his surprisingly gracious close second place finish. With Cruz working Iowa since his announcement and his superb organization, anything less than first would have been a lost.
The other surprise was the strong third for Rubio. Ironically, the Republicans are looking at a three person race, featuring two Cubans, one born here, one in Canada, and a New York City billionaire. Can you believe this diversity?
On the Democratic side, we've got two candidates known on a first name basis, Hillary and Bernie, and though it was obviously a two person race from the beginning it is now official. With her victory in Iowa, Hillary will get a boost to New Hampshire though probably not enough to beat Bernie there.
From then on it's Hillary's to lose. She has a lock on South Carolina and Nevada and is way ahead in the South which will be a very tough road to hoe for the socialist Bernie. As was proven in 2008, Hillary was prepared and determined, but this time more so. Bernie may be lovable but he's no Barack Obama. He's more your grumpy old uncle who you love a lot but in the end know he's seem better days. He will be 75 by Election Day and this long slog will if it isn't already begin to show. Bernie will lucky to survive the primaries let alone the General, This is Bernie's Last Hurrah and we wish him well. He fought the good fight and has made Hillary better for the Fall.
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Manhattan
The other surprise was the strong third for Rubio. Ironically, the Republicans are looking at a three person race, featuring two Cubans, one born here, one in Canada, and a New York City billionaire. Can you believe this diversity?
On the Democratic side, we've got two candidates known on a first name basis, Hillary and Bernie, and though it was obviously a two person race from the beginning it is now official. With her victory in Iowa, Hillary will get a boost to New Hampshire though probably not enough to beat Bernie there.
From then on it's Hillary's to lose. She has a lock on South Carolina and Nevada and is way ahead in the South which will be a very tough road to hoe for the socialist Bernie. As was proven in 2008, Hillary was prepared and determined, but this time more so. Bernie may be lovable but he's no Barack Obama. He's more your grumpy old uncle who you love a lot but in the end know he's seem better days. He will be 75 by Election Day and this long slog will if it isn't already begin to show. Bernie will lucky to survive the primaries let alone the General, This is Bernie's Last Hurrah and we wish him well. He fought the good fight and has made Hillary better for the Fall.
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Manhattan
Trump came out fine. After the next one, when Trump wins big, please be sure your headline says the second person is humbled. I think the only one humbled yesterday was your girl Hillary.
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Best would be if Cruz and Trum would mutually destroy each other. On the other hand, Rubio is a pretty terrible politician as well. He seems moderate and rational only in comparison to the other candidates. So maybe if the republicans elect Cruz/Trump then this would pave way for a democratic victory (either candidate is much better). But there is of course the risk (US voters being fickle and not very rational) that one of the lunatics might actually get elected. So Rubio might be a safer candidate from that perspective.
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They always pick the crazy person in the Iowa caucus. I don't know why this preliminary contest is given so much weight in the media. They picked Michelle Bachmann, for goodness' sake.
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I watched part of Rubio's speech to supporters after the GOP results in Iowa were announced. He was going on about how, if elected, he would fix our "declining military". Declining military? What is he basing this opinion on? This is just like the mythical "angry people who want their country back". Back from what? As far as I can tell, the GOP's biggest problem seems to be with political correctness, and they want the freedom to be vulgar.
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The NY Times editorial spin is affecting its headline writing. This is not a humbling loss for Donald Trump. It was an excellent showing for someone with no political background and the establishment against him.
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Listening to his acceptance speech did Cruz win the Iowa caucuses or the Papal conclave?
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Simply put, Trump is a loser!
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How can it be that none of the top three caucus winners is fit to lead our nation? In the past Iowan's have chosen future losers, but this time percentages tell me it is likely that one of these men will succeed in gaining the Republican nomination. This is a dismal state of affairs! Time for that third party option, Donald. There's the ticket!
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That would be the Ralph Nader ticket, right? Play the spoiler if he can't win.
Got that right, have I?
Got that right, have I?
I believe Ralph played the other side of the coin. You got that right.
Perhaps Iowans are doing us a favor picking up who we should not be voting for or who is not fit for the office...that's a good thing. For that we thank you Iowa now go back to enjoy your big government subsidies.
I guess the Palin factor didn't seal the deal for The Donald.
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Jeb! who?
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Hopefully Cruz will fizzle out. He wants to institute his version of Sharia law on America. He scares me. So does the rest of the Republican field, but Cruz is the scariest of the bunch.
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Funny, all this talk about a GOP "winner".
I'm 63 and for decades there have been many a GOP presidential candidate (admittedly not this many in any one campaign), and many a GOP President - and not a "winner" in the bunch.
I'm 63 and for decades there have been many a GOP presidential candidate (admittedly not this many in any one campaign), and many a GOP President - and not a "winner" in the bunch.
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Are we finally done with Iowa? There are more voters living in the Bronx!
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Too much corn liquor was served in the houses hosting the Caucuses in the Republican Party.
Now I am not a supporter of Trump I agree with him on Cruz's eligibility to run for president. My reasoning is this those who wrote the Constitution were all born as Citizens of England and it wasn't till Martin Van Buren was there one who was born in the United States after the Constitution was written.
There are two ways to change the Constitution either have the Supreme Court Rule or a Constitutional Amendment was passed.
Now I am for changing this part of the Constitution via the amendment process or when the Supreme Court rules on it because then it would as clear as day who could run. This Supreme Court rule corporations as citizens and I support that decision though it was clearly a stupid decision and I hope we change that though the constitutional amendment process.
Now I am not a supporter of Trump I agree with him on Cruz's eligibility to run for president. My reasoning is this those who wrote the Constitution were all born as Citizens of England and it wasn't till Martin Van Buren was there one who was born in the United States after the Constitution was written.
There are two ways to change the Constitution either have the Supreme Court Rule or a Constitutional Amendment was passed.
Now I am for changing this part of the Constitution via the amendment process or when the Supreme Court rules on it because then it would as clear as day who could run. This Supreme Court rule corporations as citizens and I support that decision though it was clearly a stupid decision and I hope we change that though the constitutional amendment process.
JEB! got less than three percent of the vote of Republicans in Iowa.
Time to lose the apostrophe.
Time to lose the apostrophe.
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What apostrophe?
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So after weeks of hoopla we see that 185,000 white voters in Iowa have decided who our next President is going to be (according to at least some in the media).
What a great country we live in that the tip of the tail is wagging the dog.
What a great country we live in that the tip of the tail is wagging the dog.
The GOP winners in Iowa are still losers... where is Mayor Blumberg (at
least he is competent and experienced in governance?)
least he is competent and experienced in governance?)
Well it's as I predicted for some months now. Rubio is the most dangerous candidate for the Democrats. Cruz may have won the day, but his strategy is limited by the Christian vote. Trump is now vulnerable in NH, but I don't know if he'll lose there. Rubio will certainly get a nice boost there and potentially win the state now. Rubio recognizes that the majority of Americas want an president with Christian values, but not necessarily a president that will force those values on them. The real question for the Republicans is how long the stragglers hang around and stifle Rubio's base and delegate count moving forward.
We don't need any more unconstitutional legislated respect for faith based legislation.
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Christian values like lying, fraud and laziness? No thank you.
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Donald Trump has thrown out the epithet "loser" to describe his rivals and many with whom he disagrees. In Iowa, Donald Trump is a loser. The self loathing must be terrible.
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I'm wondering what this means for a Bloomberg run. I never thought it likely that he would run, but it seems to me that between Iowa and the upcoming NH primary, that any likelihood of him running will disappear soon.
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Here come the back-seat drivers. Coulda, woulda, shouda are the words of the day. I can feel the hot air that's been blowing around Iowa all the way over here in New York City. No wonder the temperature on this February day is climbing to the upper 60's.
For all its corncob hokum and bible thumping, the ethanol belt caucus race failed to make clear who will spreading the most malice in wonderland come November. All we know is that Trump, without the benefit of conventional wisdom has imploded the Republican Party and done better than the pundits care to admit. Shoe fashionista Rubio has emerged as the hot-to-trot baby-faced preacher with the squirmiest kids and most uncomfortable looking wife. And Cruz, the nun in drag with a death penalty fetish and a woodshed full of axes to grind, is on a roll.
And then there's Carson, the drowsy-eyed brain surgeon who has been napping to escape reality from day one. Wake up Ben. You're a finalist.
You are now an official member of the insane clown posse.
Happy Groundhog Day.
For all its corncob hokum and bible thumping, the ethanol belt caucus race failed to make clear who will spreading the most malice in wonderland come November. All we know is that Trump, without the benefit of conventional wisdom has imploded the Republican Party and done better than the pundits care to admit. Shoe fashionista Rubio has emerged as the hot-to-trot baby-faced preacher with the squirmiest kids and most uncomfortable looking wife. And Cruz, the nun in drag with a death penalty fetish and a woodshed full of axes to grind, is on a roll.
And then there's Carson, the drowsy-eyed brain surgeon who has been napping to escape reality from day one. Wake up Ben. You're a finalist.
You are now an official member of the insane clown posse.
Happy Groundhog Day.
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I wonder how many of those Iowans who caucused for MARCO understood the significance of his sugar daddy Norman Braman's political agenda in regards to the Middle East? The more things change...
An American Veteran
An American Veteran
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Thank you for your service and for speaking up.
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OMG, that's what you get after months of blowing wind up our socks? The Donald does not rock.
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One word: scary.
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Actually Donald Trump won, Cruz squeaked by if you consider the fact Trump is not in Politics, the republican party can't stand him and the media is trying to take him out. Iowa hated Trump simply because he's from New York so that was strike one against him. The media has been bashing him for weeks trying to take him down, strike two. He's not a politician or child of the party strike three and he still managed to come in second. Not too shabby for a loud mouth from Queens.
It seems to me that the real story on the Republican side is not that Cruz won nearly one-third of the Evangelical vote, but rather that the best he could muster in the most felicitous of electorates was just under a third of that vote. The rest of the country, including many Evangelicals, will not be nearly as friendly to his tent revival Cruzade.
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Trump suffered a 'humbling' defeat? He trailed the leader by 3% after spending very little time in Iowa. Cruz bet the integrity of his campaign on this caucus, spending a great deal of money, time, and focus and garnered a paltry 28%. Marco Rubio has been imbedded in Iowa the last 2 weeks and came in 3rd. Lets see what happens in New Hampshire.
Now, can there be a 'Humbling' victory? That is the only way to describe what happened on the Democrat side. All the oceans of Clinton money, and political connections mustered a microscopic advantage over Jed Clampett. Had she run unopposed, she probably would have finished 2nd to 'anybody else' as she did in Michigan in 2008.
The headlines and discourse will be much different after the First primary in New Hampshire where Trump has invested much more time and money and Sanders has a more vital network.
Now, can there be a 'Humbling' victory? That is the only way to describe what happened on the Democrat side. All the oceans of Clinton money, and political connections mustered a microscopic advantage over Jed Clampett. Had she run unopposed, she probably would have finished 2nd to 'anybody else' as she did in Michigan in 2008.
The headlines and discourse will be much different after the First primary in New Hampshire where Trump has invested much more time and money and Sanders has a more vital network.
Trump doesn't get humbled by anything. However, this may be beginning of his Presidential dream.
Sorry, I meant "beginning of end."
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Trump, you're a LOSER! You're FIRED! Seventy-six percent of Iowa Republicans voted against you!
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It was a wonderful night for all political junkies. The "media" did a fab job on every angle and the inside-the-caucus reports were just great to watch. Iowa has a valuable system.
The key was to surf across the three biggees FOX, MSNBC and CNN which each all had good stuff to offer. FOX did beat the email drum a bit no surprise.
There were great observations by the talking heads -- many great contributions to the science of American politics.
I caught Hillary's speech and that of Cruz and Rubio and thought the latter two would not muster a national voter win. Cruz is still going to repeal Obamacare and roll back the rights of LGBT citizens and Rubio is going to pray all day and unite us all while he stalls immigration reform and blocks paths to citizenship.
It was not the time or place to state their biggest bashing themes.
Hillary seeks to move forward and make progress and defeat the put-it-in-reverse crowd.
The key was to surf across the three biggees FOX, MSNBC and CNN which each all had good stuff to offer. FOX did beat the email drum a bit no surprise.
There were great observations by the talking heads -- many great contributions to the science of American politics.
I caught Hillary's speech and that of Cruz and Rubio and thought the latter two would not muster a national voter win. Cruz is still going to repeal Obamacare and roll back the rights of LGBT citizens and Rubio is going to pray all day and unite us all while he stalls immigration reform and blocks paths to citizenship.
It was not the time or place to state their biggest bashing themes.
Hillary seeks to move forward and make progress and defeat the put-it-in-reverse crowd.
My heart is broken by the direction of the choices of the American Conservaties. There was never Evangelism in the system of political manoeuver within the conservatives. Hoping that the country will realise the mechanism of Blue-Red colllar which without America wont be unless chanting and dancing.
Here we go again. Underestimating Donald Trump. So he comes in second to a state full of evangelical Christians. To me that means he takes most other states.
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First off, Megyn Kelly won...Big bad Donnie chose to tick off the Iowans by not showing up to the last debate. And, Hillary will more than likely lose New Hampshire because that is Bernie territory. However, us grandma's will come out in droves for Hillary. We are tired of men messing up the country. Let's try "making America sane again." We are already great.
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A Washington insider beating the ultimate outsider merits a banner headline while a socialist tying the consummate Washington insider is relegated to secondary mention. Will the NYT stop at nothing, even on page one, in its naked promotion of Hilary Clinton?
Cruz's economic policies are Herbert Hooverism AKA Depression Deflation Destructive. His foreign policy is carpet bombing, no diplomacy and shuting down the United Nations. He wanted to call out the Texas National Guard to protect Texans from US Army training programs last summer. He was the prime mover of the government shut-down which cost We the Taxpayers $24 Billion.
He and Rubio both embrace rapist's rights to sperm assault of women for nine months. They call it pro-life while others call it aiding a felon. The rapist's sperm is a felon kidnapping a woman's health and well-being. It is not a gift.
The GOP is not pro-humanity and this election cycle makes that painfully clear.
He and Rubio both embrace rapist's rights to sperm assault of women for nine months. They call it pro-life while others call it aiding a felon. The rapist's sperm is a felon kidnapping a woman's health and well-being. It is not a gift.
The GOP is not pro-humanity and this election cycle makes that painfully clear.
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An eastern Republican moderate (relatively speaking) received more votes than any Republican ever did except Cruz who won the evangelical vote that does not exist in most states. Did Trump really lose by receiving one less delegate in a foreign state? I don't think so.
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Ted Cruz...really Iowa? Land of the Free, Home of the Stupid. Values voters? God help your values. How very discouraging.
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Let the show commence! The news media would be nothing without breathless, credulous hyperbole for meritless political events. The great and a the good stroke their chins and try to make intelligent comment on what amounts to a children's pantomime. The mismatch between America's onerous role in the world and the absurd way its leaders are chosen will take its toll in due course but few seem anxious.
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The GOP hierarchy must be aghast - the only two candidates they can countenance failed to garner 10% of the vote combined, and any of the three who performed well in today will be crushed in the general election come November. All in all, a great day for Democrats.
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More significant than the individual winners is that tonight marks the Europeanization of American politics. Sanders, like Ron Paul in 2008, may not end up winning in the end, but his virtual tie here has shown that there is a demand for European-style social democracy here in the United States, just as Donald Trump has shown that there's demand for the sort of right-wing populist appeal combining anti-immigrant sentiment with welfare state politics that you'd expect from the French National Front, Vlaams Belang or the Danish People's Party.
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Now Iowa can take credit. At least they chose the lesser of the two evils. Cruz shoud'nt start celebrating as yet. Evangelicals form just an extremely small of the our citizenry, you know.
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Rubio's strong showing should scare the pants off of Cruz and Trump. Mr. Trump's best move is to declare a third party and move off the Republican stage. Cruz will likely talk himself out of the job simply by being himself.
Strong showing? These three losers split the vote in a rural, white state. That's not a sign of strength for any of them.
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The Constitution's 14th amendment's Citizenship Clause rules out Cruz as a presidential candidate. He was not born or naturalized in the US, as the amendment requires. Couple that with the Constitutional requirement that a president be a native-born American, and Cruz does not qualify.
No one seems to have picked up on this yet, but read the Amendment. It's clear.
No one seems to have picked up on this yet, but read the Amendment. It's clear.
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"To God be the glory", proclaimed Mr. Cruz.
Good to know that both he and his Iranian counterparts see eye to eye on at least one thing.
Good to know that both he and his Iranian counterparts see eye to eye on at least one thing.
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Cruz's statement concerning "carpet bombing" and "making the desert glow" in reference to how he would deal with ISIS has not been challenged by Christians. If one wears their religion on their sleeve they should be held liable to statements that they make which are counter to their religion. Cruz hasn't been. Doesn't he realize the damage done by George W. Bush in Iraq by bombing the civilian population? Doesn't anyone see a cause and effect relationship to such a policy? And this man wants to continue such behavior!
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If Cruz gets in then I can see that we'll have Armageddon, the Apocalypse and the Rapture within three years, mark my words.
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Cruz and Rubio appeal to the religion-crazed but that group does not reflect the general electorate and if either of them wins the Republican nomination, they will lose in the general election.
The United States is not a theocracy.
The United States is not a theocracy.
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The United States is not a theocracy - let's hope it stays that way as there is a substantial percentage of our citizens who would be pleased if it became one.
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Looking in from the outside, the US may not yet quite be a theocracy, but it's very close to one. I don't know why the religious card is so strong in the US - it's very damaging to free thinking and progress. This is the 21st century (measured from a guy in Galilee who in the UK has very little interest or influence) for (oops I nearly said Gods Sake there) (oops I nearly said for Christs sake there) (oops nearly said for Heavens sake there). Damn, I can't finish the sentence.
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Yet.
Ted Cruz wins the Iowa primary. There goes the guy I'd like to have a beer with strategy.
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"...percent of the handful of right wing activists in an inconsequential and unrepresentative plains state."
And for this we have been contorting ourselves for 8 months? Lordy.
And for this we have been contorting ourselves for 8 months? Lordy.
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Se, Rubio is the perfect candidate,.............. for the moneyed interests of Republican. They can take his stuffed shirt and fill it with cash. Rubio can win the nomination, but God forbid become President.
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Just because you endorsed Clinton, does not mean you cannot report fairly and equally. We do not all live in Nevada, after all.
Where is the Gray Lady to whom I looked to for intelligent analysis?
Where is the Gray Lady to whom I looked to for intelligent analysis?
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Whee. Santorum, I mean, Huckabee, I mean, Cruz, wins Iowa. On to the real states. Congrats to Sanders on the dead heat tho.
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The premise of this article, that Trump was "dealt a humbling loss" is an attempt to cast the night in an anti-Trump light. Trump won 7 delegates. Cruz won only 8. How is that a "humbling loss". NYT liberal slant at its best. Good luck floating that narrative. I thought your readers were supposed to be the educated ones?
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a look at senator cruz's tv coverage shows a drift in branding (text, texture and tone) from political to evangelical...the last few, in the intensity of their presentation (a tv ministry his for the asking) and the (christian) religious imperative would amount to the promise of a state defined rather by a religious than a constitutional loyalty...were it not for it's transparent insincerity...
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As a Clinton/Sanders supporter, I am actually more nervous about November than I was yesterday. Rubio would give Hillary a run for her money in the general. Not so sure about Cruz or Trump.
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Rubio is a lightweight. I'm no Hillary fan but he's absolutely no threat to her or to anyone else for that matter.
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Relax, anyone of them would give Hillary a run for their money. Play it safe, vote Sanders.
The Cruz campaign cheated, they stole vote from Ben Carson by telling people he dropped out. A conservative estimate on the number of votes that Cruz took from Carson is 4,000 - 6,000 votes at a minimum, and 10,000 - 12,000 votes worst case scenario. So if you remove a minimum of 6,000 votes from Cruz, who really won? DONALD J. TRUMP ! ! !
Like these thugs would lie?
Really glad with the result here. Cruz has run a classier campaign, and just been more Presidential.
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I am a Christian but are people blind? Just because some people say they are Christian, are they really. How is Cruz (Rubio for that matter) a Christian when he wants to kick out all illegal aliens -- where is the compassion for those who have built their lives? Heck, even statue of limitation for crime is seven years in most states and cases. What Christian values does he and Rubio (for that matter all of the Republicans) embody when they want to get rid of Affordable Care that allows some 20+ million Americans to have coverage for the first time. What values are the Republicans talking about when they want to carpet bomb all Muslims? Don't use God's name in vain. People who use Christianity in politics are despicable. They give us Christians a bad name. No wonder we Christians are often called hypocrite.
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Everybody knows how important the outcome of this primary in Iowa was and so the Republican establishment paid heavily to get this result. How come before this election Donald Trump was heavily favored.
It reminds me of the presidential race in Florida in 2000 when a "RECOUNT' between George W. Bush and Al Gore were needed while Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida!
What a nice coincidence. When do the American people finally realize that the US presidential election is an expensive show run by the 0,01% rich, the banks and large Coroprate America and NOT the American people
It reminds me of the presidential race in Florida in 2000 when a "RECOUNT' between George W. Bush and Al Gore were needed while Jeb Bush was Governor of Florida!
What a nice coincidence. When do the American people finally realize that the US presidential election is an expensive show run by the 0,01% rich, the banks and large Coroprate America and NOT the American people
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We keep hearing that Sen. Cruz is someone who "nobody likes," yet somehow he manages to get nearly 28 percent of the vote in a field of 12. And when you combine his number with Mr. Trump's, the percentage rises to 52.
There's no question that the Republican electorate is throwing a jump-up-and-down tantrum, but toward what end? Bullies and alienators may be a source of devilish diversion, somewhat like watching mixed martial arts, but no one has yet offered a plausible explanation of how they could ever govern.
There's no question that the Republican electorate is throwing a jump-up-and-down tantrum, but toward what end? Bullies and alienators may be a source of devilish diversion, somewhat like watching mixed martial arts, but no one has yet offered a plausible explanation of how they could ever govern.
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How did that Sarah Palin endorsement work out? Not so good, I take it.
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I hope someone was polling for that effect so Sarah can stay in the mix up.
As usual, we shall see the great and talented Tina Fey again soon.
According to Fox News, Rubio was the big winner.
How does 3rd place make you a winner? I guess in New America.
How does 3rd place make you a winner? I guess in New America.
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Bill Clinton came in third in NH in 1992. Remember the "Comeback Kid" after all the "eruptions." It's all about expectations.
Alonzo: I get it. But here, the non-establishment insurgents received nearly 70% of the vote. So 2/3 of the voters don't want the establishment. The only pathway for Rubio to succeed is if Trump and Cruz to verbally kill each other and Rubio goes up the middle. Not happening this year.
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With the victory of Cruz, Nosferatu of the Right, it is clear that nothing has changed.
Republicans emphatically did not vote for an outsider, as the press falsely declaims in every misleading account of the election.
SENATOR Ted Cruz is the consummate insider: a Tea Partying, tail-wagging-the dog extremist, evil evangelist, of the sort that has bedeviled the government full on 7 years now with false and demonizing accusation against Obama, a plainly good man who was not psychologically built to do combat with evil--evil of that distinctively paranoid Southern and western kind that sees communists in the Flouride in the water.
So we've seen the tr[i]ump[h] of the Republican establishment. Just as George W. Bush swerved the Republican clown car to the right, we now see a new bus driver, Ted Cruz, nuttier than a TV evangelist. Anecdote: A famous, aged emeritus professor at a great university told me personally that when he sees these guys (the TV evangelists) with their motormouths it makes him embarrassed to be a member of the human race.
Well, folks that's just how bad it is. And make no mistake about it with a Cruz, the Republican Party is taking us in the direction of approximate fascism.
New Imperialist George W. Bush unleashed shock and awe on the Iraqis and meant to do the same thing against N. Korea and Iran as well.
Ted wants it here at home against liberals. Shock and awe against America:
unadulterated stupidity and mean-heartedness.
Republicans emphatically did not vote for an outsider, as the press falsely declaims in every misleading account of the election.
SENATOR Ted Cruz is the consummate insider: a Tea Partying, tail-wagging-the dog extremist, evil evangelist, of the sort that has bedeviled the government full on 7 years now with false and demonizing accusation against Obama, a plainly good man who was not psychologically built to do combat with evil--evil of that distinctively paranoid Southern and western kind that sees communists in the Flouride in the water.
So we've seen the tr[i]ump[h] of the Republican establishment. Just as George W. Bush swerved the Republican clown car to the right, we now see a new bus driver, Ted Cruz, nuttier than a TV evangelist. Anecdote: A famous, aged emeritus professor at a great university told me personally that when he sees these guys (the TV evangelists) with their motormouths it makes him embarrassed to be a member of the human race.
Well, folks that's just how bad it is. And make no mistake about it with a Cruz, the Republican Party is taking us in the direction of approximate fascism.
New Imperialist George W. Bush unleashed shock and awe on the Iraqis and meant to do the same thing against N. Korea and Iran as well.
Ted wants it here at home against liberals. Shock and awe against America:
unadulterated stupidity and mean-heartedness.
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Your comment is an insult to Nosferatu!
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To: Iced Teaparty
Thank you. Your comments were SPOT ON.
I'm weeping for Amerika....
Thank you. Your comments were SPOT ON.
I'm weeping for Amerika....
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Approximate fascism, I like that expression!
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When all you have is your inevitability, you better not lose. (or tie, Mrs. Clinton)
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"A humbling loss"?? That seems an odd interpretation, given that Trump was only 4% behind in a state with such an odd voting system and where there seem to be so many energized evangelicals. In fact, when you think about it, Trump did very well!
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After all has now been said and done, the nation is transfixed by the results of an election in which 146,000 voters participated! In the last 16 years the election has not been predictive of anything regarding presidential politics. It makes good news copy...and that's about all.
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The Iowa caucus might as well be a tent revival meeting that is not relevant to judging who should run the country. I'm sure the folks in the Middle East are wondering how we are different when the winners claim they came out on top because God was on their side.
The big one is about money.
Trump is not liquid. His net worth is encountered.
Why not ask him for a balance sheet?
His bombast is based walls, on a wall, a wall of money, a wall of prejudice, and a wall of despicable comment aimed everywhere... see Serge Kovaleski.
But the easy one is his net worth... and liquidity.
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That may be found to be the big lie... here.
Trump is not liquid. His net worth is encountered.
Why not ask him for a balance sheet?
His bombast is based walls, on a wall, a wall of money, a wall of prejudice, and a wall of despicable comment aimed everywhere... see Serge Kovaleski.
But the easy one is his net worth... and liquidity.
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That may be found to be the big lie... here.
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Trump has done a great deal with what little organization he has, but if he wants to go the distance, he will need to start building up a ground organization. And fast.
So, we just let 185,000 residents of Iowa pick the top contenders for President of the United States? Our democracy is in serious trouble from nearly all perspectives of how it selects it leaders. Sad. Lets have a national primary or a lottery system of awarding a series of regional primaries a couple of weeks apart over 4-6 months. Handing this kind of power, even to great states like Iowa and New Hampshire, is absurd.
Just goes to show one can never overestimate the electorate of our great nation.
Do the two hispanic candidates ever talk in spanish, if they know it, or are they just ashamed ? It seems the only one with foreign language skills is Bush who was reprimanded for it by Trump instead of being celebrated for his knowledge.
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Ted Cruz's shinning moment may turn out to be short lived but his crusade to reign in government spending and his visiting every county in Iowa may seem like a winning combination that may bear fruit elsewhere. On the democratic side, Sanders has proved himself to be the co-frontrunner who could gather momentum. The New York Times editorial endorsement of Kasich was an exericise in futility.
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Ted Cruz flushed billions of dollars of taxpayer money down the toilet so he could throw a temper tantrum.
In a caucus like Iowa you hand a sheet of paper to a party boss with your preference written on it and hope for the best, there are no ballots or audit trails. Iowa was election fraud in action by the party bosses. It proves that Cruze is a phoney, a party insider and that Rubio was simply a party insider. Trump will have to crush the establishment candidates if he wishes to win.
thank god we were spared having to face our own "Silvio Berlusconi" of a president... but not to be careful to prevent a Cruz presidency (who recklessly shut down the government, and tried to default the dollar which would have instantly plunged the world into deep depression)US currency), or a Rubio presidency (a real lightweight who cant even balance his own checkbook).
Here's to looking to a bright future where we begin to reverse the corrosive demonization of the working class America and de-stabilizing inequality that's sinking this once great nation.
Here's to looking to a bright future where we begin to reverse the corrosive demonization of the working class America and de-stabilizing inequality that's sinking this once great nation.
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Joseph Stalin had his "Show Trials" and we have our "Show Elections." This is all akin to Pro Wrestling. It is a show and "we the people" sit in the audience and/or watch on the "Mainstream Media," make that "Pay Per Viewm" while the "Vince McMahon's, also known as known as the Republican and Democrat "elites," pull the strings and will decide the final outcome. I've seen this show before folks and know the ending. The establishment (WWF) candidate will be Hillary Clinton in the "Left Corner" vs. the establishment candidate Marco Rubio on the "Right." And the winner in November is: Hillary Clinton. As George Carlin once famously said: "The table is tilted the game is rigged. Be happy with what you got it's no going to get any better." Amen...
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We seem to be left with Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Trump and Rubio.
Marco Rubio, a man who never would have caved in to Assad, Putin or the Ayatollah, or turned the leader of Israel into an enemy, is far and away
the best choice for the country.
Marco Rubio, a man who never would have caved in to Assad, Putin or the Ayatollah, or turned the leader of Israel into an enemy, is far and away
the best choice for the country.
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Rubio is good at telling people what he would never had done, but cannot articulate how he's going to run the country. After 8 years of mean-spirited
obstructionist governing from the Republican Congress, we find out not one of these candidates has a clue about running the country.
obstructionist governing from the Republican Congress, we find out not one of these candidates has a clue about running the country.
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Rubio can't tell one credit card from the other (or so he claims) and he flip flops on immigration. He'll flip, flop on anything else for a price. He's nothing more than a puppet for big money.
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Marco Rubio, a man who doesn't know and doesn't care about the age of the earth -- but who in any case considers it a matter for theologians to debate about and not for scientists to experiment about -- it not a fit choice for any country.
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Losing an Iowa caucus never hurt anyone who wasn't already mortally wounded.
Nothing more to see here folks, let's move it along. Sorry, not you Jeb.
Nothing more to see here folks, let's move it along. Sorry, not you Jeb.
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It is always important to remember that the last person evangelical voters would ever vote for is Jesus Christ himself.
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Both Cruz and Rubio are excellent politicians...but this is a time of profound change. Obama won because he rode the wave of change..Donald will be doing just as much. Donald knows how to give the eye to the crowd..and here folks it's about giving the eye.
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Trump is so unbelievably disingenuous; how many stupid people can there be in the world to believe his claptrap?
And Cruz . . . . . save us. If he or Rubio get any closer to the White House than they already are, it won't be ISIS we're fearing; it'll be onward xtian soldiers.
And Cruz . . . . . save us. If he or Rubio get any closer to the White House than they already are, it won't be ISIS we're fearing; it'll be onward xtian soldiers.
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What America badly needs is a president who can unite the country. And there is NO such person among the candidates.
Obama had eight years but did not succeed, not because he is black but because he is too liberal. Giving a talk to Planned Parenthood and neglecting the internal contradictions of the BLM movement showed him to be out of touch with half of America. And frankly, he pandered far too much to bankers disappointing the liberals.
So who is the liberal who can say to conservatives, "I feel your pain about the killings of the unborn" or the conservative who can say, "there really is far too much income inequality"?
There is no such person in the field at all.
The liberals posting here want "victory" over the "crazy conservatives". But in a system with divided powers there is no such thing as victory. There can only be mutual understanding and compromise. Politics is not a boxing match where one wins and the other goes down for the count.
Why won't people see this?
Obama had eight years but did not succeed, not because he is black but because he is too liberal. Giving a talk to Planned Parenthood and neglecting the internal contradictions of the BLM movement showed him to be out of touch with half of America. And frankly, he pandered far too much to bankers disappointing the liberals.
So who is the liberal who can say to conservatives, "I feel your pain about the killings of the unborn" or the conservative who can say, "there really is far too much income inequality"?
There is no such person in the field at all.
The liberals posting here want "victory" over the "crazy conservatives". But in a system with divided powers there is no such thing as victory. There can only be mutual understanding and compromise. Politics is not a boxing match where one wins and the other goes down for the count.
Why won't people see this?
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You can't unite people who don't want to be united and conservatives decided that they hated Obama and would fight him on everything, even when he proposed policies that conservatives had approved of when one of their own proposed them.
Maybe now the NY Times (and everyone else) and quit reporting on every time Trump urinates, eats, coughs, etc. He has the media hypnotized, but not the entire American public. Although you wouldn't know it from the coverage he's given in the Times....
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Cruz, represents the narrow minded philosophy of women should not have rights concerning their bodies, that every person, well or not should have a gun. That the second amendment is still viable today as it was in 1776 when there was a need of a citizen army. Typically the anti everything that has to do with individual rights. I don't see how he can be president.
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How many more times are we going to have to hear that Rubio's father was a bartender. Jeez, my father was a teacher descended from farmers, but you don't see me running for president and bragging about that. My guess is that Rubio has daddy issues.
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He has daddy issues because he doesn't act exactly as you do? Is everyone obligated to act as you do, or there's something wrong with them? You said yourself that you are not running for president. Maybe Rubio wonders what issues you have.
Word for the day for the man of the day, Cruz.
Unctuous. Characterized by an affected, exaggerated, or insincere earnestness.
It is so very hard for me to not see Cruz as a caricature of a modern day snake-oil salesman. He is a very slippery and shrewd politician.
Unctuous. Characterized by an affected, exaggerated, or insincere earnestness.
It is so very hard for me to not see Cruz as a caricature of a modern day snake-oil salesman. He is a very slippery and shrewd politician.
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Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
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This loss may not be the end of DT (which I eagerly await)
but a win would have made him even more insufferable
Thank you Iowa
but a win would have made him even more insufferable
Thank you Iowa
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On this day, I am feeling wistful about a certain speech given after an Iowa primary victory, not that long ago that was so full of hope, even if most of it was shot down by villainous old men fraught with anger who could only see the world in black and white, certain of their gods and mores. A certain speech that was the work of an artist, a writer, not a politician.
And now, eight years older, I know much has been unmet, some brought upon by imprudent judgment, others by rancorous forces plotting for an upheaval and a return to an orthodoxy that has ill served the public in the past.
I have not decided whether the men and women who want my trust deserve it or not, there is yet time to decide. But I know this: I have to prepare myself to hear them, speeches without cadence, flat and dispiriting, invoking god's blessings at every turn.
And now, eight years older, I know much has been unmet, some brought upon by imprudent judgment, others by rancorous forces plotting for an upheaval and a return to an orthodoxy that has ill served the public in the past.
I have not decided whether the men and women who want my trust deserve it or not, there is yet time to decide. But I know this: I have to prepare myself to hear them, speeches without cadence, flat and dispiriting, invoking god's blessings at every turn.
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BERNIE SANDERS CANNOT BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AS HE IS A SOCIALIST. Please read that word again, run it through your dictionaries. Imagine the world looking upon this Larry David clone, a Seinfeld character of a candidate, who actually had the audacity to propose increasing the tax on the rich at 90%. Read that number again. My parents, both of whom come from humble upbringings, paid their ways thru college; my mother at a Waldbaums & my father at a wine & spirits store. They worked 50+ hrs/week & raised my brother and I. I earned an academic scholarship to the U of Miami and currently work 90..NINETY hours every week as a distressed property realtor, assisting ppl in foreclosure w/ short sales or w/ damaged & squatter-filled homes, getting max offers for their houses. I will earn a 7-figure salary in 2 yrs. Does any1 believe that it's fair for me to pay the %s Sanders says "rich" ppl pay? I already pay higher %s and dollar amts. My income that goes to charity, I wouldn't be able to afford anymore. I'm a small fish, but think of me as a scaled down "rich," hard worker, forced to support lazy"citizens" who blame Wall Street/Sesame Street for all their problems. Too bad this cuts my comments short. I could tell stories of the lazy punks ransacking, squatting in properties doin drugs & get every type of gov't subsidy imaginable; Sec 8, food stamps, welfare, zero taxes of course. I work 90+ hrs, but all I hear on NY1 is ppl saying 9-5 isn't enough here. God bless US
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Cromwell was equally surprised he won the day when the Right told him he had nuttin'. He did something. He really did. You want to enshrine people power as a failure in the Russian experiment, while we know Bernie's not gonna be able to do a damned thing in the face of this freaky deaky Congress except veto crazy stuff and get us a decent supreme court. Don't be nutzo just because he's saying what the people want.
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I have run your claim through my dictionary, and also through the US Constitution. There is no prohibition against a socialist holding the office of President.
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Democracy and Socialism are not enemies.
Democracy and Capitalism are.
Democracy and Capitalism are.
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So reassuring that the Evangelical voters of Iowa repudiated Trump despite his getting the endorsement of the Rev. Jerry Falwell, a fawning fan who must need a donation. Cruz most likely won't win the Republican nomination for president, but his victory in Iowa shows that ordinary Americans can see through a billionaire celebrity candidate with no real substance.
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For all his bellicosity, Trump got one thing right: Indeed, the winner of the Republican caucuses has not won the nomination in 16 years. Given Huckabee and Santorum won, respectively, in '08 and '12, Cruz's win here does not seem like a harbinger of his inevitability.
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Wow I must say I am surprised but I want to emphasize that Iowa and NH does NOT dictate WHO will win the election ! I have long been skeptical on this and all the other polls, the END game when ALL the votes across America are counted is what REALLY matters ! Elections are like wild horses they can change direction any time.
"The throngs of Iowans who came to see Mr. Trump’s improvisational performances, by contrast, may have come away entertained, but not enough of them seemed persuaded that he was presidential."
And Cruz IS Presidential?
Iowa has become an irrelevant laughingstock. First votes should be moved to states that matter and should be primaries, not caucuses: CA or NY for Democrats, TX for Republicans, followed up by swing states FL and OH. Consistently wrong Iowa, with it's Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz picks, should come last, not first.
And Cruz IS Presidential?
Iowa has become an irrelevant laughingstock. First votes should be moved to states that matter and should be primaries, not caucuses: CA or NY for Democrats, TX for Republicans, followed up by swing states FL and OH. Consistently wrong Iowa, with it's Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz picks, should come last, not first.
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A socialist, someone who "misremembers" just a bit too much for my taste, a television celebrity and a right winger?...come on, we can do better. For me, it's clearly a Rubio and Kasich ticket that will get me excited about the future for America again. Lord knows, I've suffered these past 7 years.
The media, New York Times included, seemed to drumbeat for Trump. Was this a plus or minus? "Whom the gods would destroy, first they make famous."
You gotta make hay while the bailer's around. Forgive them for trying to survive by claiming this was a fight worth watching. I think what will fascinate now is the inability of Cruz ro keep his megalomania to himself, as well. He's really disgusting at it.
I really thought Republican voters were going to vote for Trump and show just how dumb they really are.
Instead, they voted for Cruz, and showed just how dumb AND DANGEROUS they really are.
Instead, they voted for Cruz, and showed just how dumb AND DANGEROUS they really are.
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GOP candidates have created various political baggage that prevents them from winning in the popular vote come November that includes:
Cruz plays to the Christian Coalition too much, needlessly.
Trump has no platform other than blusterous rhetoric (ask him to define his economic or other policy) so he alienates too many inside and outside the GOP.
Rubio is a good moderate but does not have wide enough appeal within the GOP and even less outside it.
Jeb Bush – the writing is on the wall. America cannot stomach another Bush, particularly after Bush 43’s poor POTUS legacy.
Christie is damaged goods from Bridge-Gate.
Carson has no appeal and has stumbled over himself regularly.
Ron Paul does not understand that Libertarianism is not an American ideal.
Cruz plays to the Christian Coalition too much, needlessly.
Trump has no platform other than blusterous rhetoric (ask him to define his economic or other policy) so he alienates too many inside and outside the GOP.
Rubio is a good moderate but does not have wide enough appeal within the GOP and even less outside it.
Jeb Bush – the writing is on the wall. America cannot stomach another Bush, particularly after Bush 43’s poor POTUS legacy.
Christie is damaged goods from Bridge-Gate.
Carson has no appeal and has stumbled over himself regularly.
Ron Paul does not understand that Libertarianism is not an American ideal.
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Rubio is not a good moderate, he has said that women shouldn't have abortions even when their life is in danger and he's on record as supporting Kim Davis.
Trump = Weak. A direct result of the Palin "effect".
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I don't see this as much of a setback for Trump, he lost by single digit percentage and Iowa has picke the wrong candidate the last 16 years so he will spin that. Plus the game is about delegates, he gets 1 less than Cruz. The big question is whether Rubio can ride the wave of support he is going to get for placing third. I foresee Carson, Bush and Rand Paul hanging around while the others fade away. Fiorina may stay, she got more votes than I think anyone expected lol
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Your heading should have been "Trump loses Republican Caucus in Iowa."
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So the reality TV candidate is less of a threat. All we have to fear now is the nasty one. Despite his put-on piety, even the Lord must have his doubts.
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Trump? Loser. Not very smart. I know people, lots of my people, they all think he's weak. I mean, what is this guy? Is he even in this race? Listen, we used to have a strong country, people got it, not this guy. Not impressed. I'm a very kind person, but this guy is not very bright. He's -- what, he makes real estate deals? I happen to know he has lost more than 22 trillion dollars in one month. His buildings are actually all falling down, that's a fact. That's been reported, you can look that up/ Disaster, all around. Not a very attractive wife. Absolutely catastrophic performance in Iowa, never should have let Ted walk all over him. Shameful. Weak.
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And he's so low energy.
Asher B.,
You nailed it!
You nailed it!
For Iowa Republicans, it's the resurrection of Larry, Moe and Curly. Hallelujah!
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HEY - have some respect, the Stooges are heads and shoulders above those GOP clowns.
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A few votes here and there and it could have easily been a three-way tie. One third voted for the outsider candidate, one third for the Tea Party candidate and one third for the Establishment candidate.
Several conclusions can be drawn:
1) Ted Cruz barely won, though he is much, much worse than Trump,
2) Rubio's billionaire owners can now breathe a little easier,
3) Bush is still counting heavily on the people of New Hampshire, and
4) It is way early in the campaign, there are a lot of states yet to go.
People forget that Iowa is a tiny, rural White state, with no minorities to speak of. Houston and Dallas each have twice as many people as Iowa, and soon San Antonio and Austin combined will also have more people.
A quote by Shakespeare perfectly describes the Iowa results:
"It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Now we get to laugh at the pundits on television crowing about Trump's "loss". Don't forget that TV is still a vast wasteland where intelligence is rarely found:
"But soft! what light through yonder window breaks?
It speaks, and yet says nothing."
Shakespeare by way of Marshall McLuhan
Finally, there are still plenty of laughs to be drawn from the 2016 GOP comedy tour, err, presidential campaign:
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Several conclusions can be drawn:
1) Ted Cruz barely won, though he is much, much worse than Trump,
2) Rubio's billionaire owners can now breathe a little easier,
3) Bush is still counting heavily on the people of New Hampshire, and
4) It is way early in the campaign, there are a lot of states yet to go.
People forget that Iowa is a tiny, rural White state, with no minorities to speak of. Houston and Dallas each have twice as many people as Iowa, and soon San Antonio and Austin combined will also have more people.
A quote by Shakespeare perfectly describes the Iowa results:
"It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Now we get to laugh at the pundits on television crowing about Trump's "loss". Don't forget that TV is still a vast wasteland where intelligence is rarely found:
"But soft! what light through yonder window breaks?
It speaks, and yet says nothing."
Shakespeare by way of Marshall McLuhan
Finally, there are still plenty of laughs to be drawn from the 2016 GOP comedy tour, err, presidential campaign:
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There are not enough evangelical Christians or tea party members in the US to get Cruz elected. No reasonable moderate republican, independent or democrat will vote for Cruz.
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I watched the coverage last going on between CNN and MSNBC, which were both great. The only time I couldn't watch was when Cruz was speaking. Just can't stomach that man.
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But if you are ruled by fear, please give to Bernie.
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What is a reasonable moderate republican ?
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The Republican Iowa caucuses were just won by a man who accepted endorsements from a pastor who said gays should be put to death (echoed by Cruz' dad), and another who said God sent Hitler to murder the Jews because they refuse to accept Jesus.
And not a whisper of this in any of the media. Frightening.
www.newyorkgritty.net
And not a whisper of this in any of the media. Frightening.
www.newyorkgritty.net
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I still am not OK with a bi-national Canadian for president. Maybe trusted news source or for entertainment, but those folks took up with the South during the Civil War and even gave comfort to Lincoln's plotters! Cruz thinks he's got a long memory...I think he's got vengeful roots all the way back to Benedict. You pick.
The US uses a rather primitive system of gauging voter preferences. Cruz, with 28% voting for him, is called "the winner". But which candidate is liked by more than 50% of voters?
We do not know the answer to that.
Two better systems are Approval voting, where a voter is allowed to approve more than one candidate (in a race with three or more candidates), or the Borda count under which voters' second preferences also have some influence.
In 2000, by either Approval voting or by Borda count, Gore would have been the winner. And surely he was, in some sense, the moral winner. More voters would have approved of Gore than of Bush. And Gore was a much larger proportion of the Nader voters' second preferences.
By treating elections as boxing matches, where one wins and the others go down for the count, we are doing a disservice to the voters whose preferences are counted only in part. We do not ask them the question, "If your favorite does not win, who is your next choice?" But the answer matters.
We do not know the answer to that.
Two better systems are Approval voting, where a voter is allowed to approve more than one candidate (in a race with three or more candidates), or the Borda count under which voters' second preferences also have some influence.
In 2000, by either Approval voting or by Borda count, Gore would have been the winner. And surely he was, in some sense, the moral winner. More voters would have approved of Gore than of Bush. And Gore was a much larger proportion of the Nader voters' second preferences.
By treating elections as boxing matches, where one wins and the others go down for the count, we are doing a disservice to the voters whose preferences are counted only in part. We do not ask them the question, "If your favorite does not win, who is your next choice?" But the answer matters.
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I wasn't quite certain, but I had a feeling Cruz might pull this off. He did the same thing here in Texas when he beat the "odds on favorite" in his Senatorial race. Cruz is extremely well organized and focused, so we shall see where all of this ends up. Rubio also did much better than I anticipated....so it's anybody's guess where this will end up.
Ted Cruz projects all the sincerity and charisma of the upscale suburban funeral director who tells a grieving family disoriented by the death of a dear one that the $10,000 coffin they've picked for Dad is not a just memorial to his hard-working life- and that he MUST be buried reposing in a top-of-the-line $40,000 model instead.
He'll won't win the nomination, and the notion of Ted Cruz becoming president is even more far-fetched.
As far as the ultimate significance of the 2016 Iowa Republican caucus is concerned: Does anyone remember who got the most votes in it in 2012?Answer: Rick Santorum. Remember him?
On Trump's side, this loss will turn out to be a real test of his tenacity - and also his ability to adjust his style so that he needlessly alienates fewer voters - as he did in Iowa, tactlessly stating - once more - just what he thinks and calling that great state's much esteemed citizenry "stupid."
How much stylistic change Trump can manage will now be discovered - and so this loss could turn out a blessing in disguise for him. The Republican presidential nomination is still Trump's to lose after his loss yesterday - heaven help us all.
He'll won't win the nomination, and the notion of Ted Cruz becoming president is even more far-fetched.
As far as the ultimate significance of the 2016 Iowa Republican caucus is concerned: Does anyone remember who got the most votes in it in 2012?Answer: Rick Santorum. Remember him?
On Trump's side, this loss will turn out to be a real test of his tenacity - and also his ability to adjust his style so that he needlessly alienates fewer voters - as he did in Iowa, tactlessly stating - once more - just what he thinks and calling that great state's much esteemed citizenry "stupid."
How much stylistic change Trump can manage will now be discovered - and so this loss could turn out a blessing in disguise for him. The Republican presidential nomination is still Trump's to lose after his loss yesterday - heaven help us all.
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Cruz is going nowhere fast, Rubio is on the rise, and Clinton could easily loose, this is the analysis the Times should run with.
The right in Iowa always goes for the unelectable cheese ball. Remember Santorum and Huckabee? Super Tuesday voters know Trump can't go the distance, so Rubio will get it after all. The Clowns all get knocked off one by one as per usual.
The right in Iowa always goes for the unelectable cheese ball. Remember Santorum and Huckabee? Super Tuesday voters know Trump can't go the distance, so Rubio will get it after all. The Clowns all get knocked off one by one as per usual.
Of interest is that Trump was chosen by less than 25% of those involved in the caucus. Donald? YOU'RE FIRED.
On a more serious note, what the spread among the top 3 tells us is that the Republicans don't have a viable candidate. Good news for the country, I think.
On a more serious note, what the spread among the top 3 tells us is that the Republicans don't have a viable candidate. Good news for the country, I think.
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It tells us that in these early days Republicans have a very nice depth of field, something Democrats probably would like to have as well.
I totally think that if it wasn't for Marco Rubio's cute new boots, he would have placed 4th. Jeb Bush needs to pay attention.
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I do, too! But has he over invested in bowtucks? He seems rather sedated in the eyes.
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The accurate summation of this debacle: Majority of Iowan Republicans back sociopathic cranks not fit to be elected dog catcher (Cruz, Trump). Remainder back right-wing cranks determined to plunge the country again into war and depression (Rubio et al.).
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How many times do we have to endure the media's explanation that Rubio's campaign is "optimistic" when it's obviously angry, shrill, and warlike?
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A vote for Rafael Eduardo Cruz aka Ted Cruz is a vote for his donors.
Donald Trump has no donors.
What will Rafael Eduardo's donors want from America, another war?
Donald Trump has no donors.
What will Rafael Eduardo's donors want from America, another war?
Whom would Jesus carpet bomb into oblivion?
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Right on the money.
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All I have to say about Ted Cruz is to take a look at his Super PACs. Entitled "Keep the Promise" (3 different versions of the same name, I, III, and III; Each PAC has only a few donors, who all made donations of $10 million or $15 million each.
I wonder what type of "promise" Mr Cruz intends to "keep" to these donors who are willing to fork over $10-15 million to aid his campaign?
For someone who claims to be an "outsider" that wants to challenge the "establishment", isn't it curious that he is taking massive donations from the same donors who own the rest of the establishment politicians?
I wonder what type of "promise" Mr Cruz intends to "keep" to these donors who are willing to fork over $10-15 million to aid his campaign?
For someone who claims to be an "outsider" that wants to challenge the "establishment", isn't it curious that he is taking massive donations from the same donors who own the rest of the establishment politicians?
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That creepy feeling in your spine comes from Ayatollah Cruz' victory in Iowa. God, the real one, help us. The religious wave that gave him the victory will be energized by it and now represents more than just the Flat Earth portion of the population. It is become a true danger to the rest of us. Its vision is to foist upon us its Cotton Mather vision of government purpose and responsibility and will no longer be satisfied with mere proselytizing. We had better watch out. When it comes to their beliefs, evangelicals don't abide the concept of separation of church and state but only in their unique ability to judge what is right and that their mission is to jam those beliefs down our throats and subject America to its judgement .
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Cruz was the only candidate to offer a plan to wean the country from ethanol; while Trump boasted that he "loved" it. That was a courageous stance to take in ethanol producing Iowa; even the governor blasted Cruz and urged a vote for Trump. That stance had to cost Cruz votes - yet he still won.
Impressive victory for the smartest guy in the field. Now it's time for the others to vacate and cede the contest to Cruz, Trump and Rubio.
Impressive victory for the smartest guy in the field. Now it's time for the others to vacate and cede the contest to Cruz, Trump and Rubio.
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You gotta be kidding! Cruz??? Yechhhhhhh!!!!
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The smartest guy in the field?????? A cast of clowns beholding to $$$$ is more like it.
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I don't want to be weaned from ethanol, I love my martinis! (oh, you meant ethanol subsidies and mandates, OK, I am fine with that sort of weaning...)
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What a huge headline! Wow! One state had its caucuses! Breaking news. I don't mean to be cynical -- but the way the Times hypes this horserace is dispiriting. Isn't there anything else going on in the country? The world? The presidential race is important, but we have a long way to go, and we need more substantive news, including about issues facing us as a nation.
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Since Iowa apportions the caucus votes I fail to see any immediate setback for either Trump or Rubio. Why has this fact not been part of the story? The same applies to the Clinton/Sanders race!
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I wished the American people had the option to select the box for "NONE OF THE ABOVE." This option applies to both sides of the aisles.
We should be able to assert our right to say, "Nope. Don't like these options. Will wait for the next round."
Imagine what would happen if "we the people" won't vote for any one of the current candidates?
Perhaps after a lull, a different kind of leader will emerge: one who doesn't lead with rhetoric and sound bites; one who leads with courage, integrity and honor.
In the mean time, Congress is dissolved.
We start anew.
We should be able to assert our right to say, "Nope. Don't like these options. Will wait for the next round."
Imagine what would happen if "we the people" won't vote for any one of the current candidates?
Perhaps after a lull, a different kind of leader will emerge: one who doesn't lead with rhetoric and sound bites; one who leads with courage, integrity and honor.
In the mean time, Congress is dissolved.
We start anew.
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Fogcityzen: I think you may be a Joe Biden fan.
Make it happen New Hampshire.
Remove the Bush family from our lives .......... forevermore.
Remove the Bush family from our lives .......... forevermore.
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Well, you'll have to wait several days to see if it's true that Trump's candidacy is all hat not cattle. Iowa sure seem to suggest this.
Definitely the most exciting primary vote in ages.
What I liked above all else was that every viable candidate recognized that the nation is in plunging into a major crisis. The race is turning into exactly what we should want as the electorate: a proving ground for different ideas about how to confront the accelerating destruction of the middle class. Cruz thinks we can pray our way out of the mess, Trump thinks that persecuting Mexican immigrants and foolish economists will do the trick, Rubio favors the status quo with a mild rightward shift, Clinton favors the status quo with a mild leftward shift, and Sanders thinks that socializing healthcare and education will compensate for the job hemorrhages that will accompany his taxation program.
The election should eradicate the truly awful ideas and, if we're lucky, might sharpen the sense of urgency in Congress. Most importantly, the few good ideas floating out there (no single candidate has a monopoly on all of them) will be co-opted by whoever has the pragmatism and elasticity it takes to be elected. The Iowa primary was a great night for America.
What I liked above all else was that every viable candidate recognized that the nation is in plunging into a major crisis. The race is turning into exactly what we should want as the electorate: a proving ground for different ideas about how to confront the accelerating destruction of the middle class. Cruz thinks we can pray our way out of the mess, Trump thinks that persecuting Mexican immigrants and foolish economists will do the trick, Rubio favors the status quo with a mild rightward shift, Clinton favors the status quo with a mild leftward shift, and Sanders thinks that socializing healthcare and education will compensate for the job hemorrhages that will accompany his taxation program.
The election should eradicate the truly awful ideas and, if we're lucky, might sharpen the sense of urgency in Congress. Most importantly, the few good ideas floating out there (no single candidate has a monopoly on all of them) will be co-opted by whoever has the pragmatism and elasticity it takes to be elected. The Iowa primary was a great night for America.
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Gee I almost feel sorry for Mr Trump..... then again.
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Well if Cruz goes on to win, at least we will get an intelligent president. We haven't had one for a while.
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Dear S. Blue: Have you been lost in a time warp? Perhaps when you wrote, "haven't had one on a while", you're referring to George W. Bush because other than him we've have very intelligent presidents; Dubya's father, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama by any means one may use to measure intelligence are very smart men. They may not be men you admire or voted for. They may even be men whom you hate, but to call any one of them not smart does not speak well of your judgment in matters of such importance as picking and analyzing the profiles of past presidents. Please, don't be so dumb. You're reading the NYTImes for heaven's sake. Try at least to act a tad more intelligent.
DD
Manhattan
DD
Manhattan
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Stella: to state that our current President is not "intelligent" defies intelligence.
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Sure, nothing says intelligence like hanging out with the Duck Dynasty crowd and the flat earth believers.
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While after only one state caucus it’s difficult to predict outcomes; I believe Cruz (or another moderate GOP candidate) will receive the RNC nomination for POTUS. When Trump loses the nomination; I also predict he will break his vow and not support the GOP nominee by running as an Independent candidate. Trump’s platform only will steal votes from the eventual GOP nominee since he fails to effectively reach a wide variety of Democratic or Independent voters due to his egotistical, offensive rhetoric. Groups he’s offended or alienated include:
(women) – "She had blood coming out of her whatever" and "She’s playing the woman card up, that’s all she has. Honestly, outside of the woman card, she’s got nothing going, believe me"
(Mexicans/Hispanic immigrants) - "They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists"
(military veterans like John McCain) - "He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured"
(handicapped Amricans ) - "You’ve got to see this guy, 'Ah, I don’t know what I said!'" - jerking his arms in the air mockingly …
(African Americans) “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”
And one last example of Trump’s over-inflated ego…. “I think apologizing’s a great thing, but you have to be wrong. I will absolutely apologize, sometime in the hopefully distant future, if I’m ever wrong.”
(women) – "She had blood coming out of her whatever" and "She’s playing the woman card up, that’s all she has. Honestly, outside of the woman card, she’s got nothing going, believe me"
(Mexicans/Hispanic immigrants) - "They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists"
(military veterans like John McCain) - "He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured"
(handicapped Amricans ) - "You’ve got to see this guy, 'Ah, I don’t know what I said!'" - jerking his arms in the air mockingly …
(African Americans) “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.”
And one last example of Trump’s over-inflated ego…. “I think apologizing’s a great thing, but you have to be wrong. I will absolutely apologize, sometime in the hopefully distant future, if I’m ever wrong.”
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Are you positing that Cruz is a moderate Republican?
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As I recall in 2008 and 2012 it was Huckabee and then Santorum who won Iowa and neither became the Republican nominee.
Most of the states that will be voting vs the unfair Iowa caucus method, will have far more non religious right, more racially diverse voters. Thus neither Cruz or Rubio may win in the end.
Most of the states that will be voting vs the unfair Iowa caucus method, will have far more non religious right, more racially diverse voters. Thus neither Cruz or Rubio may win in the end.
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So far, Cruz got 8 delegates, Trump got 7, Rubio got 7 - out of 30 total delegates to be awarded in Iowa (3 bonus delegate awards still pending). A win is a win - but we are not talking about a huge differential. At best, Trump was hoping to end up with perhaps a one or two delegate lead - instead, he is one delegate down.
New Hampshire will be awarding 23 delegates, South Carolina will be awarding 50 delegates, and Nevada will be awarding 27 delegates
Let's see where the three GOP delegate leaders end up on February 24th, after these first four contests.
It appears to be anyone's game, among this triumvarate.
New Hampshire will be awarding 23 delegates, South Carolina will be awarding 50 delegates, and Nevada will be awarding 27 delegates
Let's see where the three GOP delegate leaders end up on February 24th, after these first four contests.
It appears to be anyone's game, among this triumvarate.
It figures. This guy has one speed,one track and one answer. THANKS OBAMA:) He has no solutions,no plans and no hope except that he is young. Even that will go away after 8 years of Bernie and 8 more years of Warren. I feel like the next Republican president has not even been born yet. Lets hope so!
Feeling it baby!
Feeling it baby!
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"Tonight is a victory for courageous conservatives all across Iowa and our great nation."
Except the 72% of conservatives who didn't vote for him.
Assuming there are not progressive Republicans, who in all fairness he would want voting for him anyway.
Except the 72% of conservatives who didn't vote for him.
Assuming there are not progressive Republicans, who in all fairness he would want voting for him anyway.
People read way too much into the Iowa Caucuses and the New Hampshire Primary. The South Carolina Primary has almost as many Republican delegates than Iowa and New Hampshire combined.
Let's see where Cruz, Trump, and Rubio are after Super Tuesday. The same with Clinton and Sanders.
Let's see where Cruz, Trump, and Rubio are after Super Tuesday. The same with Clinton and Sanders.
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could the NYT now stop reporting that much about this boring losing hairpiece and concentrate instead on 'the winners' - as the choice has to made clear between a crazy overeligious reactionary and a man who wants a healthy and wealthy future for America.
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Senator Rafael Cruz milked his winning speech effectively, hitting all disjointed talking points, throwing everything at the wall, and yes even his father. The one thing about Senator Cruz is that he loves to tell lies on a consistent basis, the bigger, the better. Immigration? He was against it before he was for it, but he became for it to be against it. Got that?
The current whopper is about his father, Rafael Cruz's immigration. When Mr. Cruz senior arrived in America, he immediately received food stamps, housing, training and education, plus a stipend. A program that still exists for chiefly Cubans but not Mexicans. So while it is possible Cruz senior emigrated from Cuba with only $100 in his underwear, given the largesse he received upon his arrival, he probably put that money into a bank account alongside his government stipend.
The NYT has noted these glaring inconsistencies see link below, in the Cruz hagiography. Let us get Senator Cruz to stop talking about his Daddy's underwear and illuminate how the Senator, the ultimate beneficiary of such immigration largesse, is not willing to extend the same to others. If Senator Cruz wants to keep using his father's questionable history as a prop, then by all means let us illuminate this cipher within a dichotomy wrapped up in a pastrami sandwich now called a burrito by "Ted" Cruz.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/cuban-peers-dispute-ted-cr...
The current whopper is about his father, Rafael Cruz's immigration. When Mr. Cruz senior arrived in America, he immediately received food stamps, housing, training and education, plus a stipend. A program that still exists for chiefly Cubans but not Mexicans. So while it is possible Cruz senior emigrated from Cuba with only $100 in his underwear, given the largesse he received upon his arrival, he probably put that money into a bank account alongside his government stipend.
The NYT has noted these glaring inconsistencies see link below, in the Cruz hagiography. Let us get Senator Cruz to stop talking about his Daddy's underwear and illuminate how the Senator, the ultimate beneficiary of such immigration largesse, is not willing to extend the same to others. If Senator Cruz wants to keep using his father's questionable history as a prop, then by all means let us illuminate this cipher within a dichotomy wrapped up in a pastrami sandwich now called a burrito by "Ted" Cruz.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/cuban-peers-dispute-ted-cr...
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With any luck this is the start of the long deflation of the Trump balloon. Cruz appeals to a base that is not America in a general election. Good organisation helped him win. Rubio however will I believe be the ultimate winner. His knowledge and his demeanour are more inclusive and have wider appeal. Bernie or Hilary will eat him alive. Cruz would fare no better against her.
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Amazing! The Iowa Republicans have cast 75 percent of their votes on three leading candidates who are politically so extreme that if they are elected to the highest office in the United States, it will have disastrous consequences for the world.
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How sad that the NYT would rather give a headline to Ted (cue scary music!) Cruz than to the true dark horse winner of the evening, Bernie Sanders.
Here's the Guardian a few minutes ago:
"Monday night proved that he could win and, in proving it, he’s weakened Clinton by exposing her as something other than the inevitable candidate we had all but assumed her to be. Some Sanders staffers have argued Sanders definitely did win if you count raw totals and not state delegates; given the geographical layout of Iowa, that claim is likely if unproven. (More than a quarter of Sanders’ supporters come from just three counties – which awards only 12% of delegates; the caucus structure is thought to favor Clinton significantly).
"Numbers aside, by sheer momentum Iowa was a win for Sanders."
Friends, that scraping sound emanating from IA tonight is the sharpening of a million pitchforks.
Here's the Guardian a few minutes ago:
"Monday night proved that he could win and, in proving it, he’s weakened Clinton by exposing her as something other than the inevitable candidate we had all but assumed her to be. Some Sanders staffers have argued Sanders definitely did win if you count raw totals and not state delegates; given the geographical layout of Iowa, that claim is likely if unproven. (More than a quarter of Sanders’ supporters come from just three counties – which awards only 12% of delegates; the caucus structure is thought to favor Clinton significantly).
"Numbers aside, by sheer momentum Iowa was a win for Sanders."
Friends, that scraping sound emanating from IA tonight is the sharpening of a million pitchforks.
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A huge victory for Sanders who tied the unbeatable Clinton. Bernie really won because who do you think O'Malley's delegates will go now that he is suspending his campaign?
Real hope has arrived in America.
Real hope has arrived in America.
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Actually, if you watched tcrehe televised caucus on CSPAN you saw the O'Malley supporters go to Secretary Clinton.
A lifelong Dem, I heard that song about Humphrey, McGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, Gore, Kerry . . . . All fired up our liberal longings . . . . And all LOST in the general election.
Any of the top GOP would run and win on a one-note campaign against Bernie -- socialist, socialist, socialist. He anointed himself and scared, angry voters over college age will default to a safer GOPer who won't make them pay Sweden taxes. I know how stupid that sounds -- but listen to the voters. If we Dems want to go back to our losing ways, vote Sanders and lose the moderates and independents and disaffected GOP we need and that Hillary won in Iowa. She won women, moderates and holders who are far more likely to vote.
Any of the top GOP would run and win on a one-note campaign against Bernie -- socialist, socialist, socialist. He anointed himself and scared, angry voters over college age will default to a safer GOPer who won't make them pay Sweden taxes. I know how stupid that sounds -- but listen to the voters. If we Dems want to go back to our losing ways, vote Sanders and lose the moderates and independents and disaffected GOP we need and that Hillary won in Iowa. She won women, moderates and holders who are far more likely to vote.
An interesting story in Iowa is the complete collapse of meaningful support for Jeb. Iowa is always difficult for establishment republicans, but this was a really, really bad loss. 2.8%! If something doesn't turn around very, very quickly, I don't see how he can viably continue his campaign much longer.
Family dinners will also probably be a little bit awkward.
Family dinners will also probably be a little bit awkward.
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That family has a lot of bad karma to atone for. Looks like Nemesis has come around to start collecting...:)
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I can't get past the "putrid factor" among the Republican nominees.
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Let's get this right: Cruz wins and Rubio gains credibility on the back on Christian bible-holding country Iowans aka religious far right, and the Donald finishes a decent 2nd without them. Good luck to Ted and Mario on riding this wave nationally, not happening. Trump, on the other hand, stands to gain more support, precisely because it is now established that the far-right crazy wing of the GOP doesn't trust him.
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Hillary is back.
Watch her speech. She is fired up. We will remember this as the point where she shifted from a cautious and comfortable candidacy to one defined by shared struggle.
People we admire do not devote their lives to easy causes. Hillary has taken on the big ones.
She is now in her third decade of fighting for universal health care. She is now in her third decade of calling loudly for women’s rights (offending the Chinese, for good measure).
Soon this race will shift to states with more diverse populations, where the concern is not only about 20-ish White people (like myself) getting free college, but also about 10 year old Black boys getting a chance to live.
I know the “pain” of student loans. But I can only imagine being choked, crushed, dragged on the ground, thrown around a police van… and gunned down.
There are parallels between the comeback story of working-class Bill Clinton, the struggle for African-Americans to gain fair treatment, and the relentless, spiteful opposition Hillary faces. In her speech on criminal justice at Columbia, she outlined major obstacles to an equal society. The stories of a mom without a boy and a boy without a dad brought to mind the courage required of many people to just get up in the morning.
Hillary has defied the narrative that minorities must submit and supplicate. And as a gay person, she has empowered me.
So yes, we will speak up; no, we will not sit down; and I assure you, we will vote.
See you in South Carolina.
Watch her speech. She is fired up. We will remember this as the point where she shifted from a cautious and comfortable candidacy to one defined by shared struggle.
People we admire do not devote their lives to easy causes. Hillary has taken on the big ones.
She is now in her third decade of fighting for universal health care. She is now in her third decade of calling loudly for women’s rights (offending the Chinese, for good measure).
Soon this race will shift to states with more diverse populations, where the concern is not only about 20-ish White people (like myself) getting free college, but also about 10 year old Black boys getting a chance to live.
I know the “pain” of student loans. But I can only imagine being choked, crushed, dragged on the ground, thrown around a police van… and gunned down.
There are parallels between the comeback story of working-class Bill Clinton, the struggle for African-Americans to gain fair treatment, and the relentless, spiteful opposition Hillary faces. In her speech on criminal justice at Columbia, she outlined major obstacles to an equal society. The stories of a mom without a boy and a boy without a dad brought to mind the courage required of many people to just get up in the morning.
Hillary has defied the narrative that minorities must submit and supplicate. And as a gay person, she has empowered me.
So yes, we will speak up; no, we will not sit down; and I assure you, we will vote.
See you in South Carolina.
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Hillareous, though I think you fooled most of your recommenders.
Less than 200,000 people participated in the Iowa Republican caucus. Ted Cruz received less than 57,000 votes. These are such small numbers, not deserving such outsized newspaper headlines. And excluded from voting in Iowa are all Iowans serving their country overseas, Iowans working at night, elderly Iowans who are not mobile, to name a few. Isn't it time to switch from a caucus to a primary format, to permit absentee participation, to encourage greater participation? 200,000 is a joke.
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There are two stories on the Republican side, and one on the Democratic.
The first Republican story is that Marco Rubio had an excellent night, winning the expectations game handily.
The second Republican story is that the air s out of the gasbag. In true SAT fashion, one may say Trump : Des Moines = Hindenburg : Lakehurst.
The Democratic story is how weak the frontrunner really is. In fact, her only chance is of the Republicans nominate somebody really impossible.
The first Republican story is that Marco Rubio had an excellent night, winning the expectations game handily.
The second Republican story is that the air s out of the gasbag. In true SAT fashion, one may say Trump : Des Moines = Hindenburg : Lakehurst.
The Democratic story is how weak the frontrunner really is. In fact, her only chance is of the Republicans nominate somebody really impossible.
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Every _one_ of the Republican candidates is impossible. You were saying...?
Looks like Marco Rubio will emerge as a compromise between a man who hates government and one who wants government to work on behalf of the middle class.
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Rubio is a big money puppet.
With Cruz hiding behind Jesus, make wat for theocratic fascism, to which many Iowans no doubt subscribe. This is no longer the state of Henry Wallace, but a backwater filled with hatred for democratic principles. Not that Rubio and Trump are measurably better, when it comes to dismantling gains in the social sector or a global military policy of intervention and regime change.
What a dismal picture for the party and for America. Progressive Republicans died out or were politically marginalized by 1950, a La Follette or a LaGuardia an extenct spies. And with Hillary waiting in the wings, the two parties become one, if they are not that already. Poor Sanders, enthusiasm is no match for a Rightist turn of the country.
What a dismal picture for the party and for America. Progressive Republicans died out or were politically marginalized by 1950, a La Follette or a LaGuardia an extenct spies. And with Hillary waiting in the wings, the two parties become one, if they are not that already. Poor Sanders, enthusiasm is no match for a Rightist turn of the country.
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Don't quit, Donald. America needs your "New York values" a little while longer. We cannot have Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio racing to the nomination.
Trump would be an awful President but Cruz and Rubio would be even worse.
Hillary needs to attach herself to someone with charisma - fast. It worked with her husband but now she needs a VP people can be inspired by. Cory Booker is my choice.
I'd rather Bernie win and take Elizabeth Warren with her. That's a DREAM TICKET!
Trump would be an awful President but Cruz and Rubio would be even worse.
Hillary needs to attach herself to someone with charisma - fast. It worked with her husband but now she needs a VP people can be inspired by. Cory Booker is my choice.
I'd rather Bernie win and take Elizabeth Warren with her. That's a DREAM TICKET!
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I think you need to actually win the nomination before you think about choosing a VP.
Donald Trump failed to take away the most important lesson from his 12 seasons of The Apprentice (and its celebrity version): the best organized team wins! Trump put a dismal organization in the field;; Cruz had more than 1500 precinct captains throughout the state. Trump's ground team were a group of slap happy supporters, mainly glad to be in his light, often quirky, guided by magic thinking; Cruz's ground effort included a high tech system second only to Obama's, that methodically carried out the plan for contacts, then recontacting voters, with scripts tied to their specific concerns.
As usual, this difference in the ground approach was buried by the media: in a state where retail politics has been consistently the key to victory, the media focused on polls and the phenomena of Donald Trump, dazzled by his celebrity approach. No story contrasted with the utter absence of a well oiled organization on the ground that could capture the interest he piqued.
For having the worst organization in the primary, for failing to to target turn out, for all his xenophobia an mis
As usual, this difference in the ground approach was buried by the media: in a state where retail politics has been consistently the key to victory, the media focused on polls and the phenomena of Donald Trump, dazzled by his celebrity approach. No story contrasted with the utter absence of a well oiled organization on the ground that could capture the interest he piqued.
For having the worst organization in the primary, for failing to to target turn out, for all his xenophobia an mis
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(continuing; sent too soon by mistake) "for all his xenophobia and misogyny, given the heavy turn out of new voters, Trump did well.
I don't know if that good news or bad news.
Trump may be the greater danger to governing, but Cruz is the greater danger to government. Having demonstrated the will to shut the government down, costing American families and the economy $24 billion in just 15 days, Cruz's extremes are exposed when a close look examines his projections for the use of powers. Cruz will make no deals; instead he would implode the cabinet, slashing budgets, suspending enforcements, changing rules, doing away with standards, relaxing vigilance over corruption, revving up the war machine, striking down abortion through draconian legislation, ending the right of marriage for the gay community as his first line efforts.
The media should not let him hide in Donald's shade. Cruz's danger lies within the recesses of government, his knowledge of its operations, his willingness to micromanage the cabinet. He is anti-democratic. Calling him conservative simply puts sheep's clothing over the wolf.
Look closely: he is anti-democratic. He prays, government burns.
I don't know if that good news or bad news.
Trump may be the greater danger to governing, but Cruz is the greater danger to government. Having demonstrated the will to shut the government down, costing American families and the economy $24 billion in just 15 days, Cruz's extremes are exposed when a close look examines his projections for the use of powers. Cruz will make no deals; instead he would implode the cabinet, slashing budgets, suspending enforcements, changing rules, doing away with standards, relaxing vigilance over corruption, revving up the war machine, striking down abortion through draconian legislation, ending the right of marriage for the gay community as his first line efforts.
The media should not let him hide in Donald's shade. Cruz's danger lies within the recesses of government, his knowledge of its operations, his willingness to micromanage the cabinet. He is anti-democratic. Calling him conservative simply puts sheep's clothing over the wolf.
Look closely: he is anti-democratic. He prays, government burns.
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Oh so well spoken, Mr. Rhett. Cruz is a danger to democracy, not unlike other men with outsize egos who sought (and either won or took) the prize of presiding over a sovereign state. Mussolini, Stalin, Charles Taylor, Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong-II, not to mention, the Hitler entourage. Mr. Cruz is one of those really, really smart guys who could be extremely dangerous if he were given the reins of power.
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Yep, you win the prize today Walter. Let's just say it -the guy is a fascist who will work to subvert democracy, or at least whatever we have left of it today.
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Of course, the GOP winner in Iowa has not won even the nomination, much less the White House in the last two cycles. Iowa and NH are very atypical states with small numbers of delegates, but the press treats them as though they are all that matters. Last night one anchor remarked that if Trump won both he would probably be "unstoppable" as if the rest of the nation and its many sub-groups did not matter at all (or even have a real voice). Nonsense.
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Trump did better than I thought without a ground game, professional organization and policy position. Hopefully, Trump will stay on for another fight because the Charlatan Cruz will bring God into a secular state as envisioned by the founding fathers.
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Listening to Trump's absurd concession speech, I was reminded of Mary McCarthy's famous comment about Lillian Hellman, "Every word she writes is a lie—including 'and' and 'the'."
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I'm not sure Trump would make a good president (I prefer him to Cruz) but what's not to like about his speech? It seemed subdued humble honest and extremely short. I don't know how long it actually was, but it seemed to have lasted about a minute.
Karen, I think he was a poor loser (hence, the short speech - he'd probably go on for hours were he a winner) in a transparently ineffective effort to turn lemons into lemonade.
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As a Republican I find the Jonathan Martin treatment of the caucus outcome close to a pandering embrace of the Cruz campaign. And I hold no brief for any of the other candidates. Cruz took the most votes for two reasons: (1) strong organization and effective message delivery to a specific segment of the population, and (2) Donald Trump's lackadaisical approach to campaigning, including weak organization and poor messaging to an unfocused voting bloc. The key to winning in Iowa is getting supporters to turn out to caucuses and Trump simply failed to make the necessary investment as it required too much attention to detail and the nuances of process. Given the difference in organizational effort I am surprised that Cruz did not do better. With the organization, discipline, and resources at his disposal to win by just a few thousand votes over a clueless, bombastic candidate was less of an accomplishment than Cruz supporters would like to claim.
The real question is whether Donald Trump chooses to learn from this experience. In a week there is not much he can change in New Hampshire, though more spending and aggressive encouragement to vote would help. The real challenge is to identify 3-4 states for Super Tuesday where a more intense and carefully-organized ground gain might yield results. Sweeping the board is not the game, it is winning delegates and holding down a critical consolidation in the hands of Cruz or Rubio. Cruz won on favorable turf through thoughtful planning.
The real question is whether Donald Trump chooses to learn from this experience. In a week there is not much he can change in New Hampshire, though more spending and aggressive encouragement to vote would help. The real challenge is to identify 3-4 states for Super Tuesday where a more intense and carefully-organized ground gain might yield results. Sweeping the board is not the game, it is winning delegates and holding down a critical consolidation in the hands of Cruz or Rubio. Cruz won on favorable turf through thoughtful planning.
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Not to mention, but please do, the help Cruz had from Evangelical Pastors in getting out the vote. Church bus relays to voting sites, churches as voting sites, constant reminders from the pulpit that "god" needed them to go vote for Ted Cruz, "god's emissary", etc. etc. It is truly a mystery that Cruz did not get more than 4% higher than Trump. Is "god" trying to tell us something? Maybe "god" really wants Trump to win? Why the news media did not report these caucus results as a just-about a three way split, is a mystery to me. Unless, of course, they want Cruz to win the presidency.
Cruz the winner of Iowa, and the heir to the crown worn by Santorum and Bachmann.
Cruz is not electable in the rest of the country, just as Santorum and Bachmann were not electable before him.
Cruz is not electable in the rest of the country, just as Santorum and Bachmann were not electable before him.
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Bachman never won the Iowa caucus. She may have won a straw poll, but Santorum won in 2012.
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"Cruz is not electable in the rest of the country," No Republican is electable on the Left Coast which is where you're at. But move eastward and include the South and the picture changes.
NYHUGUENOT - Go ahead, break down the numbers for us. Sorry but there just aren't enough ignorant, right wing bigots to elect Cruz.
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Iowa means nothing on the Republican side. Huckaby and Santorum went nowhere after winning the 'Evangelical' state in the last two elections.
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It's important to remember that 63% voted against Cruz.
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The Left Coast speaks again. How many of the votes for the others will eventually end up in the nominee's column? Cruz can carry the South and most of the West except for the three Left states.
Wasn't it 72% against Cruz?
Actually, 72% voted for someone else. Not exacrly a mandate.
If Rubio's supporters think his Bronze Medal finish makes him a winner, maybe they should hand out little medals to all 12 Republican "winners."
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Funny!
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That makes no sense. Rubio and Trump got almost the same number of votes. With the exception of Carson, who got much less than either of them, the rest got crumbs.
It is a mistake to declare Trump's candidacy over. New Hampshire has a history of voting for mavericks and Trump surely qualifies. However badly he is wounded, if he wins NH he's back on top. Assuming Cruz has a weak showing, there will be plenty of votes for the other contenders. NH has a sizable disaffected working class. And Rubio's pitch for the evangelicals may backfire in NH. It may be an uphill battle for Trump but reports of his death are premature.
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He lost in a blizzard in a state that was within the statistical margin of error. The rest of the nation, he has a 17 point lead. I'm not sure he is even wounded. Why would he be?
It would be nice if the NYTimes explained just what the repub election means. Does Cruz get all of Iowa's reps in the nomination process or does he get just one more than Trump, and just 2 (3?) more than Rubio?
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Cruz gets 8, Trump and Rubio 7 each.
According to the AP, Cruz gets 8, Trump and Rubio each get 7. A few others get one or two.
PROPORTIONAL -- Cruz gets 6 delegates, Trump 5, etc. Huuuuuuge, eh?
I can only say this to Sanders voters. I understand what you believe in and what you hope may happen. I'm in my eighth decade and have voted from that same place many times. But you have to think about winning the general election.
I remember being in Madison Square Garden watching George McGovern walk through the audience while "Here comes the Sun" was playing.
He was our sun. We believed it could happen. He won one or two states.
I remember being in Madison Square Garden watching George McGovern walk through the audience while "Here comes the Sun" was playing.
He was our sun. We believed it could happen. He won one or two states.
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Better to vote for someone I actually believe in than just vote for the person someone else tells me will win in the end. Some of us like to sleep with a clear conscience at night.
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And maybe this time we can win! Why put another shill in power? Hrc is no different from whoever the republicans send.
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McGovern ran one of the worst campaigns in history, plus he made the "Palin mistake" with Eagleton. Besides wanting to end the war, he wasn't particularly an economic populist nor were the American people in 1972. Not comparable.
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A sitting Senator with an Evangelical Pastor for a father won a state caucus with mainly evangelical voters over a former New York Democrat who never ran in any election before with a margin of 3.3.%. This really isn't a humbling defeat for Trump, rather a confirmation that his celebrity and tough rhetoric has actually translated into nearly a quarter of the vote. Welcome to politics. Donald.
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TRUMP put all he had out there -- and got 25%. Not quite a mandate -- he barely squeaked by Rubio.
Chris Matthews said that Bernie's use of the term "political revolution" goes too far. I guess he forgot about the Reagan Revolution. In the same breath, Matthews said Rubio, a fast talking mimic from Miami, is a "great orator".
Someone needs to cover the primaries, live, from the internet. These three giant corporations can't put on the news objectively.
Someone needs to cover the primaries, live, from the internet. These three giant corporations can't put on the news objectively.
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While I agree with your comment that "giant corporations" don't cover politics objectively, I wonder how description of Rubio being a "fast talking mimic from Miami" makes you an authority.
Not to mention PBS, which has gone rogue for quite some time now. Can't get a fair analysis from them, that's for sure. Not a mention of the fact that the percentages were almost a three way split between the top three candidates and that another 26% of the vote was split among the other candidates. They reported the Cruz win as though it were a Trump Trample. Nothing could be further from the truth. Especially given that Cruz had all the evangelical pastors in his pocket.
The biggest winner tonight was Joe Biden. I give him 48 hours to "reconsider"--again--then officially declare his candidacy the day after Bernie wipes the floor with Hillary in New Hampshire. If you think the Democratic establishment will let Bernie win fair and square and be their nominee, you're dreaming.
www.newyorkgritty.net
www.newyorkgritty.net
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No kidding. This is gonna get down and dirty like a mafia turf war with Hillary holding Hot Springs, Bernie's got Grand Isle, and Trump's got cashzinos coming out his kazoo!
Biden, ah yes, in the great tradition of Dem idealists MCGovern, Dukakis, Mondale, Gor, Humphrey . . . . With similar success in the general election. GOP would love Biden b/c they know only Hillary can put together votes of women, reliable voters (i.e. older), moderates and WIN against the GOP.
Lately I wish voters had a choice to either cast a positive vote for one candidate or a negative vote for another. The results would be most informative.
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Hillary and Trump are the most reviled, and America loves a good Punch at Judy. At least that's what the media sells, so forgive them for pushing it like new programming?
Cruz's victory speech was unbearbly bad. The worst I have heard in 55 years of following presidential elections. Trump in contrast was humble and grateful to the 45k who voted for him and I am grateful to him because he has energized the electorate. He is so different and refreshing. In contrast Rubio is boringly rhetorical. Jeb, drop out.
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There are 538 electoral votes in our messed up system. Iowa has 6 of those - judy under 1 percent. Relax everyone, for all the hype, this is essentially meaningless. To put it another way, equivalent to the first 30 seconds of the Super Bowl. Sure, there COULD be a game changing play, but not likely.
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Finally, some common sense perspective on Iowa's importance. There are 49 states ahead that will weigh in. It is certainly an endurance race. I am tired of all this political posturing already. Should not the candidates in office be governing their states and elected positions more?
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"just" under 1 percent... (turns out "st" and "dy" are qwerty neighbors)
Six out of 538 is slightly over 1 percent, actually. Who is Judy?
With great trepidation, I must ask the Republican Party at their next planning session to forever remove the Iowa Caucus from ever being first in the nation. Or even selecting before May. Because they have followed up a selection of Mike Huckabee in 2008 and Rick Santorum in 2012 with a CANADIAN! He is not a Native Born American and violates the Constitutional requirements.
The Iowa Democrats can stay, but the Iowa Republicans must be exiled to the later month of May.
The Iowa Democrats can stay, but the Iowa Republicans must be exiled to the later month of May.
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I agree with you in part. Iowa is fairly meaningless for Republicans at this point. Maybe it is time to deprive any contest that goes before New Hampshire of its delegates.
Jeb! went missing in Iowa. Now "Jeb?"
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Mx Kasich, the poster boy for editorial board nonpartisanship, finished eighth, just behind iCarly. Plainly Republicans know how to view an endorsement by the times.
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I once ran for judge in the Cuyahoga County Democratic primary in which 110,000 voters showed up in total. Why do we care about a caucus in Iowa? How many voters were there?
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I dislike the caucus system because a majority of people are left out.
Parents have to pay for a babysitter so they don't go. People who work the evening shift can't go. The elderly who dislike driving at night can't go.
College kids who live outside their home town can't travel back home to attend. If you are in the military you can't take part. If you are in a nursing home, hospital or home bound you can't go.
Whereas with absentee ballots every voter can take part!!
Parents have to pay for a babysitter so they don't go. People who work the evening shift can't go. The elderly who dislike driving at night can't go.
College kids who live outside their home town can't travel back home to attend. If you are in the military you can't take part. If you are in a nursing home, hospital or home bound you can't go.
Whereas with absentee ballots every voter can take part!!
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A record number.
Having four billionaires each running a super-Pac supporting Cruz and having a large Christian Evangelist turnout did the job for Ted. Too bad we can't attribute Trump's defeat to good common sense on the part of Iowans, after all they did choose Cruz.
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It's astonishing that as despicable and sleazy a character as Ted Cruz could win anything outside of Texas, evangelical voters notwithstanding. What could they possibly be thinking out there in the cornfields?
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What are they thinking with catatonic, unintelligible Carson with 17,000 votes. That whole state has been sniffing the ethanol.
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They are not thinking. That's the problem.
Thinking? Cruz will lead them to Gawd's shiny little fortress on the hill. No thinking there....
As the least electable of the GOP front-runners, Cruz is the one Hillary and Bernie should be rooting for. The thought of this self-righteous theocrat appointing Supreme Court justices should be horrifying enough to scare even the most indifferent Democratic voters to the polls.
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Whoever the Democratic candidate will be they'd mop the floor with this unlikable, snarky little weasel.
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Even Pat Roberts thinks Ted Cruz takes religion a bit too far.. :-)
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Amen!
Three terrible candidates virtually tied. It will be interesting to see what percentage of Iowans of voting age showed up. The press tried to sell this like it was an election instead of one state's primary. Time for a national primary day to save us all time and get a bunch of money out of it. Perhaps then the press could start reporting other real news?
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Not likely.
Rubio: The establishment is trying ridiculously hard to make Rubio the winner. He came in third place, but we're told he won. Rubio will be lucky to place 4th in New Hampshire, 3rd in South Carolina.
Rubio can't win a caucus or primary anywhere. If he continues to lose, which he will, and the money continues to pour into his campaign from Wall Street and the neoconservatives, you can bet on a brokered convention.
Rubio can't win a caucus or primary anywhere. If he continues to lose, which he will, and the money continues to pour into his campaign from Wall Street and the neoconservatives, you can bet on a brokered convention.
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Sure. But Rubio certainly could win a male version of the Ms. America Pageant. Especially with his high heel boots. He is just too cute for words.
Too bad America does not want a "cute" president, but rather a strong leader. Who shows up to do his job.
Too bad America does not want a "cute" president, but rather a strong leader. Who shows up to do his job.
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wow 28% how underwhelming.
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I live on the US/Canada border and my wife and I find it rather ironic that we should spend our last years here on the frontiere.
The five speeches made after the debate were excellent but they spoke to the need to educate not only in science and math but history. Marco Rubio spoke first and his words were inspiring but virtually everything he said was non factual.
One does not need to be a constitutional lawyer to know that there are no second amendment rights for individuals. Samuel Johnson's 18th century dictionary clearly defines militia and those basing the right to own guns on the constitution are either lying or ignorant. Secondly the Creator and the God of the bible are two separate deities if indeed the Creator is a deity and not some scientific causal agent like what we might call the big band. I am a Jew and much like many of the founders I am not an atheist, agnostic or a believer I am a Jew for whom the curtain between the holy and the mundane is impenetrable and I am commanded to behave in a moral fashion without the benefit of belief or disbelief. The separation of church and state was meant to provide such a curtain and the America of Cruz and Rubio is not the United States of America and its constitution. Alas my bible is written in Hebrew and not the English of the court of King James.
What Iowa made clear is this November America is going to choose its own direction and that decision is fraught with peril and neither Cruz nor Rubio are uniters.
The five speeches made after the debate were excellent but they spoke to the need to educate not only in science and math but history. Marco Rubio spoke first and his words were inspiring but virtually everything he said was non factual.
One does not need to be a constitutional lawyer to know that there are no second amendment rights for individuals. Samuel Johnson's 18th century dictionary clearly defines militia and those basing the right to own guns on the constitution are either lying or ignorant. Secondly the Creator and the God of the bible are two separate deities if indeed the Creator is a deity and not some scientific causal agent like what we might call the big band. I am a Jew and much like many of the founders I am not an atheist, agnostic or a believer I am a Jew for whom the curtain between the holy and the mundane is impenetrable and I am commanded to behave in a moral fashion without the benefit of belief or disbelief. The separation of church and state was meant to provide such a curtain and the America of Cruz and Rubio is not the United States of America and its constitution. Alas my bible is written in Hebrew and not the English of the court of King James.
What Iowa made clear is this November America is going to choose its own direction and that decision is fraught with peril and neither Cruz nor Rubio are uniters.
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As if we would care what a Canadian thinks of our electoral process.
Thanks Moe for showing us that there are fringe whack job thinkers in Canada too.
Thanks Moe for showing us that there are fringe whack job thinkers in Canada too.
Thank you. I like the Big Band theory. Maybe the essence of the universe is really music. I like that idea.
Huguenot,
I do know my history and one reason there is a strong curtain between church and state is the founders knew about the Seine running red with blood.
I may be a crackpot but everything I write can be verified with a search on any semi reliable internet site.
I do know my history and one reason there is a strong curtain between church and state is the founders knew about the Seine running red with blood.
I may be a crackpot but everything I write can be verified with a search on any semi reliable internet site.
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The GOP's Iowa caucuses has proven once again exactly why their votes don't matter. Huckabee, Santorum, and now Cruz, all "Iowa winners" who will never win the party's nomination. It was entertaining to listen to Iowa's local television political experts and Iowan GOP party chieftains pontificate on the importance of this "win" knowing full well that Cruz is over 20 points behind Trump in New Hampshire. Ahhh yes, the "bounce!" Much talked about but never seen by previous Iowa winners, Huckabee and Santorum.
The bad news? Huckabee, Santorum, and now Cruz will be doing this seemingly Ground Hog day election every four years. Pray for us indeed.
The bad news? Huckabee, Santorum, and now Cruz will be doing this seemingly Ground Hog day election every four years. Pray for us indeed.
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"“To God be the glory." Oh my God.
As I understand it, Trump didn't care about organization, when in Iowa organization is key. He probably doesn't even want to be President. He's just basking in the attention.
As I understand it, Trump didn't care about organization, when in Iowa organization is key. He probably doesn't even want to be President. He's just basking in the attention.
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Folks . . . folks, Bernie and Hillary are less than 0.2 percentage points from each other with 99% of the precincts counted so in essence that is a Sanders win. There's no other way to look at it. Hillary had the whole machine behind her, including the very newspaper empire you are gandering at moi's comment this very moment.
What Bernie did was supposed to be impossible. Yet it happened.
It can happen all the way to the White House.
Now c'mon y'all, start feeling the Bern. Us working folks need it. And I have a feeling there's a little dirt under your fingernails too. I knew it.
Repeat after me. Bernie 2016!
What Bernie did was supposed to be impossible. Yet it happened.
It can happen all the way to the White House.
Now c'mon y'all, start feeling the Bern. Us working folks need it. And I have a feeling there's a little dirt under your fingernails too. I knew it.
Repeat after me. Bernie 2016!
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I work 90 hours a week to live the life I want to live and to provide for my future family the way I believe they'll deserve. How many hours a week do you work? I don't even make a salary. I started my own business, after taking an 80 hour course to become a licensed real estate professional, after my parents paid for me to attend a top 4-year university, which I was only able to do because I studied hard in high school and for my SATs AND ACTs. My parents worked their ways through college and worked 60 hour weeks while raising my brother and I so we could have a better childhood than they had. And so I do the same now for my future children. I sacrifice liquor and beer for lawn signs and online ads. I sacrifice dates and movie nights for lead generating and marketing of my clients' homes. I trade off vacations and weekends of relaxation for 10-hour courses on distressed property, short sales' training and foreclosure laws & programs. I put money into SEP-IRAs and purchase gold/silver to secure my future & not rely on the gov't to take care of me. 5am; doing paperwork and handling work for my clients (all of whom I procured from referrals and door-knocking and cold-calling). I have a flawless credit score - never once missing a payment or forgetting to take care of a bill, meanwhile I pay $600/month for health insurance which I never use (thank G-d) and in 2 months I'll pay 40% of my income on taxes. Fair huh? Yeah, Bernie Sanders for the "working people." #SOCIALIST ??
Bernie 2016!
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I thought the Feds were still outlawing drugs?
It was Rubio who took votes away from Trump -- the groups who do not wear religion on their sleeves could have chosen either Trump or Rubio, and Rubio took away just enough of them to pull Trump's count down below the Cruz total.
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Being in 2nd place by 3.5% is not that humbling.
Coming in 2nd behind the Canadian might be though.
Coming in 2nd behind the Canadian might be though.
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1] Cruz, a true blue, red-blooded evangelical ideologue if there ever was one, the son of a well-known pastor, spent over a year canvassing in Iowa, criss-crossing a state where 60% of the Republican caucus-goers are evangelicals. He got 8 delegates.
2] Trump, whose personal life is an anathema to evangelicals, couldn't pronounce the name of a New Testament Book correctly, admits he has only a tenuous relationship to God, never apologizes, has no concept of humility, spent as little time as possible in the state, and, finally, called Iowans "stupid", got 7 delegates.
3] Cruz should have done much better; Trump got only one less delegate.
4] the glee with which the liberal media, including the NYT, pounced on Trump's showing only reflects the great disdain that media has for him and is more an emotional outburst than a rational analysis.