Interesting... 90% of the commentors here are Democrat, and a large number of them far to the left. This is the NYT readership, I guess. The hatchet jobs on the Republican candidates and the fawning over Obama and Hilary now make great sense.
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Clinton is pragmatic about maintaining the status quo.
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The Republican also-rans should just go away. They have no chance since it is clearly a three-person race. Staying in at this point is just ego. But that is what getting in the first place was. That said, Republicans have a choice among a wacky billionaire, a religious nut and a right wing jerk who would make this country even less safe than it is. Pathetic. On the Democraticc side, can we really trust Mrs. Clinton? And America will never elect a socialist. Where is the "none of the above" lever?
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The Times has no words of consolation for Mr. Trump? Thinking to itself that if it fails to mention him, he doesn't exist?
That psychology works okay with infants but not adults. Or is this how the Times considers its readers?
It's not necessarily surprising to discover.
That psychology works okay with infants but not adults. Or is this how the Times considers its readers?
It's not necessarily surprising to discover.
When is someone going to notice and address the fact that Marco Rubio is ignoring the apparent climate-warming issues in Miami, completely blowing off his constituents even though he is the junior Senator from Florida.
And, speaking of being the junior Senator from Florida, when is Marco Rubio going to start showing up in Congress to do the paying job for which he was elected? It's a job with many nice perks, not the least of which is a pension.
If Marco Rubio ignores the needs of his Florida constituents now and does not show up to do the job for which he was elected and is being paid, there is no reason to believe he will do any better if elected President of all 50 of these United States. Rubio won't.
Being President pays more, and provides classier housing, transportation, vacation digs and better health insurance. If Rubio doesn't do his job now when he is asking people to vote for him there is no reason to believe he will do his job better if he is voted into a job he can't be fired from for 4 years.
Rubio is dead wood who doesn't mind stealing from taxpayers.
And, speaking of being the junior Senator from Florida, when is Marco Rubio going to start showing up in Congress to do the paying job for which he was elected? It's a job with many nice perks, not the least of which is a pension.
If Marco Rubio ignores the needs of his Florida constituents now and does not show up to do the job for which he was elected and is being paid, there is no reason to believe he will do any better if elected President of all 50 of these United States. Rubio won't.
Being President pays more, and provides classier housing, transportation, vacation digs and better health insurance. If Rubio doesn't do his job now when he is asking people to vote for him there is no reason to believe he will do his job better if he is voted into a job he can't be fired from for 4 years.
Rubio is dead wood who doesn't mind stealing from taxpayers.
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O'Malley did the sensible thing, he's a Democrat.
None of the Republicans, even the totally forlorn ones, can do the same.
None of the Republicans, even the totally forlorn ones, can do the same.
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Just curious here: Chris Christie vetoed a bill that would have resulted in more human treatment for livestock raised in New Jersey in order to gain some traction with farmers in Iowa. And that bought him 1 or 2%?
What a failure of principles. What a cost to the citizens of his state.
Republicans of Iowa, you bought him cheap.
What a failure of principles. What a cost to the citizens of his state.
Republicans of Iowa, you bought him cheap.
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When more than 70% of the Iowa Republican caucus primary voters wanted someone other than the first, second and third place "winners" then victory must be redefined and reimagined. All of the Republican candidates lost in Iowa.
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O'Malley's showing is not surprising.
Review the Issues page on Bernie's web site. You will see Strong.
Review O'Malley's. You will see Weak. Nice thoughts, but tentative.
Review the Issues page on Bernie's web site. You will see Strong.
Review O'Malley's. You will see Weak. Nice thoughts, but tentative.
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I replayed the "scream" just now. I remember it so well. Wow, it seems so insignificant in hindsight. And Dean, poor guy, sounds a lot like our current Democratic field. He would have made a good President I think. Certainly better than what we got.
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FCOL!!!
Martin O'Malley has a beautiful future and he did a great and courageous and totally self-serving job by hanging in there.
I'd be totally surprised if he doesn't ascend far beyond a cabinet position ultimately.
People like him--totally appealing and uncontroversial.
He'll be back--face it, and maybe even as viral as Bernie is this time around.
Love that guy (Bernie, for now!)
Martin O'Malley has a beautiful future and he did a great and courageous and totally self-serving job by hanging in there.
I'd be totally surprised if he doesn't ascend far beyond a cabinet position ultimately.
People like him--totally appealing and uncontroversial.
He'll be back--face it, and maybe even as viral as Bernie is this time around.
Love that guy (Bernie, for now!)
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"While Mr. Rubio may seem like a moderate alternative compared to Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz, the men who finished ahead of him in Iowa, New Hampshire voters may scrutinize his stances on abortion and same-sex marriage more closely than he finds comfortable."
Yes! The idea that Rubio is any more sensible or "establishment" than Trump and Cruz is absurd. Just listen to what he says!!
In fact, someone in New Hampshire should ask him the same God question he answered so outrageously in Iowa. If he repeats that answer, he is unfit. If he changes to suit New Hampshire tastes, he is a pandering hypocrite.
Beware the dangerous guy described here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-rubio-talks-to-iowa-about-...
Yes! The idea that Rubio is any more sensible or "establishment" than Trump and Cruz is absurd. Just listen to what he says!!
In fact, someone in New Hampshire should ask him the same God question he answered so outrageously in Iowa. If he repeats that answer, he is unfit. If he changes to suit New Hampshire tastes, he is a pandering hypocrite.
Beware the dangerous guy described here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/marco-rubio-talks-to-iowa-about-...
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The real question is why does anyone give any weight to Iowa in the first place? While O'Malley's loss probably is indicative of what he will face elsewhere (basically no name recognition), the rest of it may not mean anything at all. What Iowa represents on the GOP side is the republican base, rural, almost 100% white, older, mostly religious conservative, that doesn't reflect the rest of the country, so all this says is what the GOP base is thinking. The fact that Trump lost by 4 percentage points actually is indicative of something, that he took a lot of the religious conservative/GOP base, despite being, shall we say, less than religious. What it should be telling the GOP, as troubling as that is, that Trump may lose in places like Iowa, the very red states, but that in a national election Trump actually could win, because the religious voters would likely vote for him over a democrat, and there are a lot of disaffected Democratic and independent voters who would vote for him, too.
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I wouldn't want to be in Trenton once Christie returns. He'll be coming home as one nasty sore loser facing angry constituents and the bridge-gate scandal that will continue to dog him. Kasich can return to Ohio with his head raised high. He was the only sensible and compassionate person in the race and deserved a better fate. But in this climate of self-absorption and name-calling, Kasich almost seemed to be an anachronism. He would have had a better chance defeating LBJ in 1964.
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They all gave it a good try. For that democracy is better. Was the election perfect? No. Will it get better? Yes. What did we learn? This election cycle voters are leaning toward their core values. Republicans went conservative. Democrats went ideologically liberal. Hilary is the most practical choice. Bernie's revolution is unmasking a large scale ego problem.
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The people for Bernie matched the money for Hillary.
Mercenaries have their limits.
Mercenaries have their limits.
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Where do you get the idea that "seriousness is not really what voters are looking for?" Voters are seriously angry with elite corruption and disregard for their realities. Don't continue to be part of the problem.
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Jeb Bush's backers have gotten 5000 votes, one Iowa delegate, and an exclamation mark--all for the remarkable price of 50 million dollars. And these guys are supposed to know about business!
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I wonder how much Hillary Super Pac advertising and Clinton Advertising assailed Iowa compared to that spent by the Sanders team?
Far more I am sure.
For all her control, money, recognition, help provided, backers and Bias...Hillary Clinton won HALF of Iowa over "The New Guy"
She didn't win anything. She lost half her party supporters...
GO BERNIE!
Far more I am sure.
For all her control, money, recognition, help provided, backers and Bias...Hillary Clinton won HALF of Iowa over "The New Guy"
She didn't win anything. She lost half her party supporters...
GO BERNIE!
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Happily we will not see history repeat itself with a continuation of the Bush dynasty. Always considered the " smart one", Jeb! did not show much brilliance in his campaign. Either way, it seems brilliance is not in vogue for the Red Team. This may hurt them when their chosen few enter a battle of the minds.
However, it does seem Hilary may repeat her 2008 fade-away. The assumed coronation may not occur. Can Bernie reeducate Americans by teaching them socialism and democracy work very well together and it has nothing to do with communism? Stay tuned, folks.
However, it does seem Hilary may repeat her 2008 fade-away. The assumed coronation may not occur. Can Bernie reeducate Americans by teaching them socialism and democracy work very well together and it has nothing to do with communism? Stay tuned, folks.
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Jeb, Kasich and Christie--solidly in the pockets of Goldman-Sachs and its interests in plundering public education by starving it and then swooping in to "reform" it by diverting all of the tax dollars into its own wallet.
Jeb, Kasich and Christie didn't meet a teacher they wouldn't bash. Enjoy the Karma, boys.
Jeb, Kasich and Christie didn't meet a teacher they wouldn't bash. Enjoy the Karma, boys.
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The people believe the fallacy that Clinton, not Sanders can win. Even the polls show Sanders winning by greater margins than Clinton. Truth be told, it is Clinton, not Sanders, who cannot win. She has to much baggage and is roundly hated by too many. who would vote for anybody but her.
Bernie in 2016!
Bernie in 2016!
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You have a point. At one of the homes I visited while canvassing for Bernie in NH, I was told bluntly "I haven't fully decided, except anyone but Hillary". Most of the women who favored Hillary did so because of gender, which is understandable. But choosing gender as a single-issue deciding factor sacrifices issues that matter, such as income inequality and corruption in politics.
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People are short sighted, in my opinion. the most important and long lasting impact will be the Supreme Court nominations by the next president. executive orders can be overturned by the stroke of a pen. Legislation has to muddle through Congress. But the Supreme Court can declare what is a viable law and what isn't and can overturn executive action and even select a winner in a contested presidential election. I want a Democrat to make the next nominations to the Court, and Hillary would make excellent choices. To me, if Bernie doesn't succeed in the primaries, HIllary is the next best thing -- NOT a Republican.
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JEB!
Time to retire the apostrophe.
Time to retire the apostrophe.
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"JEB! Time to retire the apostrophe."
You mean the exclamation point?
You mean the exclamation point?
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O'Malley did not lose. Can't say the same for the Democratic Party.
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A complete media blackout, including by the New York Times, doomed his effort.
So Emma Roller has advice for a lot of candidates who mght not have gotten objective treatment from the Fourth Estate. Physician, hel thyself...
So Emma Roller has advice for a lot of candidates who mght not have gotten objective treatment from the Fourth Estate. Physician, hel thyself...
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Time for the 1 percenters to leave the race...hint hint Christie.
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No winner only one loser. O'Malley.
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I just replayed Howard Dean's scream. How times have changed. It didn't even make an impression on me. Heck, it didn't even sound like a scream--just an enthusiastic, squeaky, "Yeah!"
These days you can brag about shooting someone in the street and still getting people to vote for you, and you can still actually get people to vote for you.
These days you can brag about shooting someone in the street and still getting people to vote for you, and you can still actually get people to vote for you.
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My apologies for forgetting my source. Perhaps it was Diane Sawyer. But I understand that only a few feet away from Dean his "scream" was almost inaudible because of the crowd's noise.
On such things does our country's destiny turn.
On such things does our country's destiny turn.
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Gephardt won in 1988, not 1980.
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Clinton is not electable. Most Americans do not like her, and she comes across as untrustworthy, dishonest, and pandering. Whereas Sanders is both likeable and popular.
Only Bernie can beat any Republican, whereas every Republican would defeat Clinton. Most Republicans and independents are adamantly opposed to a Clinton dynasty. They would vote for Kim Jong-un over Clinton.
Only Bernie can beat any Republican, whereas every Republican would defeat Clinton. Most Republicans and independents are adamantly opposed to a Clinton dynasty. They would vote for Kim Jong-un over Clinton.
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It's obvious that you despise Hillary Clinton and always have--which is fine: that's your opinion.
But, for heaven's sakes, please don't call Bill and Hillary a "dynasty." A "dynasty" refers to people related by blood. But Bill and Hillary are obviously not siblings or parent/children. They are related by marriage. (Jeb! of course IS a member of a dynasty: his brother is George W. Bush, and his father is George H. W. Bush, both of whom served as president.)
So many folks I know keep insisting that Bill and Hillary are a dynasty. They obviously don't know the meaning of the term. (If Chelsea ever runs for U.S. president, then, of course, you could call her a member of the Clinton dynasty.)
Call Bill and Hillary a "political couple"--like William and Mary. They are not siblings like Isis and Osiris in ancient Egypt.
But, for heaven's sakes, please don't call Bill and Hillary a "dynasty." A "dynasty" refers to people related by blood. But Bill and Hillary are obviously not siblings or parent/children. They are related by marriage. (Jeb! of course IS a member of a dynasty: his brother is George W. Bush, and his father is George H. W. Bush, both of whom served as president.)
So many folks I know keep insisting that Bill and Hillary are a dynasty. They obviously don't know the meaning of the term. (If Chelsea ever runs for U.S. president, then, of course, you could call her a member of the Clinton dynasty.)
Call Bill and Hillary a "political couple"--like William and Mary. They are not siblings like Isis and Osiris in ancient Egypt.
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We need someone, any Democrat, to be the next President who will be making appointments to the Supreme Court. We cannot afford to replace any Justice with another Scalia/Alito/Thomas/Roberts on the court. It will undermine the slow progress that has been thus far made in our society.
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"Most Americans don't like her.". Really? I know a lot of Americans who do because they know that Hillary Clinton is our best hope for regaining respect in the world.
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Quit! Jeb! Quit!
Martin O'Malley wound up with twice as many of his party's delegates as you got from your party, nevertheless he had the wisdom to withdraw from the race yesterday.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/jeb-spends-2884-per-iowa-vote/article/2000869
Martin O'Malley wound up with twice as many of his party's delegates as you got from your party, nevertheless he had the wisdom to withdraw from the race yesterday.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/jeb-spends-2884-per-iowa-vote/article/2000869
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A comment on the NYT bias in favor of HRC: Maybe O'Malley should also schmooze the Sanders campaign, since contrary to the NYT's drum beat, he ultimately may be the winner.
A question: if Iowa has 44 delegates and HRC and Sanders each have 49.x% of the votes, then why does Hillary have 22 delegates, Bernie 21, and O'Malley 0?
An aside: Let's hope that the contenders drop out over time and not all at once so the Late Show's Hungry for Power Games segments can proliferate.
A question: if Iowa has 44 delegates and HRC and Sanders each have 49.x% of the votes, then why does Hillary have 22 delegates, Bernie 21, and O'Malley 0?
An aside: Let's hope that the contenders drop out over time and not all at once so the Late Show's Hungry for Power Games segments can proliferate.
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“Seriousness is clearly not what voters are looking for this cycle." That's the thing that worries people outside the U.S. You folks might think it's fun to elect some inexperienced dummy who blows up the stock market or the Middle East every 10 years or so, but you're dragging down the rest of the world with you. Please vote responsibly!
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Don't you have a cross country skiing event to prepare for?
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On the Democratic side, this is such an exciting election. Intelligent and very likable candidates imbuing genuine concern and care for our country, and the underdog climbing ahead to tie the once front runner. Two very strong candidates, and a third that I could have envisioned as a fine president. It reminds me why I love America so much and why I hold a mighty belief in my fellow citizens. The advise in this column is seriously amazing and being given for free! I hope the candidates listen.
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Thanks. But you are violating fundamental rules of democracy: Thou shalt abuse the government. Thou shalt abuse candidates. Thou shalt abuse the electorate.
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Advice to candidates. (Kasich) Put in a call to America. Ask if there is an adult home you can speak to. (Republicans not named Trump) Defeat Trump the way Johnson defeated Goldwater. Remind voters Trump will walk beside the guy with the nuclear key codes and see how well they sleep at night. (Clinton) The odds of Sanders beating you are roughly that of a comet striking the earth and killing every living person except Bernie Sanders (which is the only plausible scenario for him winning). Relax, don't travel so much, save your money for the real campaign. And keep a good lawyer on speed dial. (Bush) As you know the Maine coast is lovely in April. Go ahead and start packing now. (Fiorina) Get ready for the VP spot. Study Sarah Palin. Then don't do that. (Christie) Show up to a press conference wearing a bad hair piece and make stupid remarks. It's kind of out there, but it might just work. (Carson) Dare to connect with your inner Martin O'Malley. (Rubio) See a doctor. Appearing not to have a pulse can be a sign of a serious medical condition. (Paul) Point out there are four letters in your first and last names. It's the most interesting thing about you. (Santorum) Use your dwindling campaign resources to have your face put on the side of milk cartons with a 1-800 number.
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So it falls to Carly Fiorina to lead the charge against the Idiocracy of Donald Trump? I suppose so, since she's now heading up the "Nothing left to lose" caucus (soon to be joined by Jeb Bush, Rand Paul and Chris Christie). The problem is, no one's listening to what she has to say anymore.
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Now what? Well, if your name is Martin O’Malley, Carly Fiorina, Jim Gilmore, Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, Chris Christie or Ben Carson, it’s about time you go gentle into that good night (Mike Huckabee already did, last night). Chris Christie may as well go now, because BridgeGate is about to yield actual trials and he’ll be swinging in the wind on every one of them even if not actually tried himself. Kasich should stay in for now on the strength of his NY Times endorsement. Jeb Bush should stay in for the simple reason that, along with Hillary, he’s by far the most qualified to be our next president and HE’s not dealing with an email scandal. Besides, all those who go gentle into that good night SHOULD dedicate their support to Jeb on exiting, INCLUDING O’Malley.
So, in answer to the eternal “now what?”, I continue to plot what rational paths we can take that eventually would have contending Hillary, possibly with an O’Malley co-pilot, against Jeb Bush, with Marco Rubio as HIS co-pilot. THAT election would vindicate a primary process that as horrific as it would need to be to yield that outcome, still would be defensible if it did. Surely, Ted Cruz OR Donald Trump in ANY part of it wouldn’t.
So, in answer to the eternal “now what?”, I continue to plot what rational paths we can take that eventually would have contending Hillary, possibly with an O’Malley co-pilot, against Jeb Bush, with Marco Rubio as HIS co-pilot. THAT election would vindicate a primary process that as horrific as it would need to be to yield that outcome, still would be defensible if it did. Surely, Ted Cruz OR Donald Trump in ANY part of it wouldn’t.
Richard: You have never hidden your strong desire to see a Bush back in the White House - WHY???? After the disaster that was his older brother - lies to get 4,000 American soldiers killed in a useless war in Iraq, the economy tanking due to his giving the Banks free rein to steal everything that was not nailed down, 9/11 tragedy, despite warnings to him that he did not heed and I could go on and on. Jeb? also says he will be seeking advice from his brother and the neocons who created that mess. I know you hate Hillary with a passion, but shouldn't reason win out?
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ehooey:
Read Jeb's position papers and listen to him actually speak when he doesn't have to neutralize a Trump-bull in a china shop. Then do the same for the others. Only Rand Paul has his positions as well thought-out, and those positions are sufficiently out of the mainstream that he can't be elected. Bush and Hillary are by FAR the best candidates for president, and I'd like the two best to face one another.
You obviously don't know a lot about the environment that existed around Dubya when 9/11 hit, and I've NEVER "hated" Hillary.
Read Jeb's position papers and listen to him actually speak when he doesn't have to neutralize a Trump-bull in a china shop. Then do the same for the others. Only Rand Paul has his positions as well thought-out, and those positions are sufficiently out of the mainstream that he can't be elected. Bush and Hillary are by FAR the best candidates for president, and I'd like the two best to face one another.
You obviously don't know a lot about the environment that existed around Dubya when 9/11 hit, and I've NEVER "hated" Hillary.
The Democrats are losing their chance to have a young, energetic 53-year-old Presidential nominee without tiresome baggage who could beat the Republican nominee. Gov. Martin O'Malley brings a fresh new face to the national political stage. Hopefully, he will be the Vice Presidential running mate or the Secretary of Energy. He is an intelligent, hard-working man with a very nice family.
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When it comes to O'Malley, I guess it depends on how one defines "loser."
I saw his extremely gracious and dignified withdrawal speech. My eyes began tearing a little. He's also got wonderful ideas, which if they get acted on, I hope he'll get credit for, i.e., the electric grid and the environment. He was also the first presidential candidate of ANY political party to visit a mosque after Trumplestiltskin's infamous slurs. He's a class act. He said it's not over yet. I hope he gets offered VP or a cabinet post, even more, that he'll eventually run again. In fact, I count on it.
As for Sanders vs Clinton, since I don't know if a comment I submitted to the NYT's endorsement of Hilary was accepted, I'll put it here. The NYT said that "Sanders has proved to be more formidable than most people, including Mrs. Clinton, had anticipated." The NYT's omission: Sanders has proved to be more formidable than the NYT had anticipated.
GO BERNIE!!
2-2-16@4:22 am et
I saw his extremely gracious and dignified withdrawal speech. My eyes began tearing a little. He's also got wonderful ideas, which if they get acted on, I hope he'll get credit for, i.e., the electric grid and the environment. He was also the first presidential candidate of ANY political party to visit a mosque after Trumplestiltskin's infamous slurs. He's a class act. He said it's not over yet. I hope he gets offered VP or a cabinet post, even more, that he'll eventually run again. In fact, I count on it.
As for Sanders vs Clinton, since I don't know if a comment I submitted to the NYT's endorsement of Hilary was accepted, I'll put it here. The NYT said that "Sanders has proved to be more formidable than most people, including Mrs. Clinton, had anticipated." The NYT's omission: Sanders has proved to be more formidable than the NYT had anticipated.
GO BERNIE!!
2-2-16@4:22 am et
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I don't think we've seen the last of Martin O'Malley. I am very impressed with him; he looks, thinks and acts Presidential. May his future in politics be very bright indeed.
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On the democratic side, this primary coming down to the wire should serve as a very clear message to the DNC that there is a very strong, very motivated progressive wing in their party. They should take note that a strong progressive economic message captures the hearts and votes of the young. This is not a flash in the pan. This is a movement and if they want to to translate this passion into votes in 2016 and going forward, they had better plan accordingly.
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Hillary needed more than a wafer thin margin. With the expenditure of tremendous resources, editorial support, marquee endorsements, she didn't knock out a white-haired, old Brooklyn Jew from Vermont, a self-proclaimed socialist. Her weakness has, again, been shown.
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Not a socialist in the conventional sense, rather a "democratic socialist". True, that sounds like word-bandying, but understanding the interplay of public and private power is different from overloading government with properly private enterprise. Bernie knows that.
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After seeing all those huge crowds at Trump rallies, I can't believe Donald Trump came in second.
On to New Hampshire where the voters are better informed about him.
Go Trump!
On to New Hampshire where the voters are better informed about him.
Go Trump!
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If they are better informed about him, he will finish no higher than fifth
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People love to go to the circus. Most don't want to join it.
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Could you not hear the sound of establishment Republicans dialing up M. Rubio's cellphone at 10:45 P.M.? Good night Cruz, good bye Trump, hello Marco.
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In what way was Iowa a win for the Hillarybot? She split the delegate count and burned up a mountain of Superpac cash doing it. She went all in with outside staffers and couldn't get anyone excited about her campaign. She peddled fear consistently in the last weeks and relied on the geriatric vote. She aroused zero support among young voters. Veterans across parties lines abhor her. Worst of all, she came off as shrill and phony--and fled the state before the night was finished. There's only one problem with Hillary's coronation: ordinary Americans don't want it. Plus there's Wall Street, Iraq, and the email deceit. But keep that to one side. Americans are sick of establishment politics in general. And she and her monied family are the reigning symbol of all the failures of politics, economics, and society in America across the past generation. Even if she wins the nomination, it will be a pyrrhic victory. Hope plus anger plus authenticity does not spell Hillary.
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Iowa does not usually matter. Its a nutty place with a strange method of a caucus. A lot depends on people staying hours. Its not a real election.
It does show that the repubs in the midwest are very conservative and very angry at all the things they are not. However the angry types they are promoting will scare the he--out of normal people. Remember , the repubs are about 40 % of the voters and Cruz got about 28% of them so he "won" with about 12% of the vote. Hardly a meaningful victory.
Bernie did show significant appeal to young voters and if they continue and the Hispanics, Asians and blacks vote Dem and show up he could be the Big winner.
It does show that the repubs in the midwest are very conservative and very angry at all the things they are not. However the angry types they are promoting will scare the he--out of normal people. Remember , the repubs are about 40 % of the voters and Cruz got about 28% of them so he "won" with about 12% of the vote. Hardly a meaningful victory.
Bernie did show significant appeal to young voters and if they continue and the Hispanics, Asians and blacks vote Dem and show up he could be the Big winner.
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@Richard Head,
I'm trying to follow your comment, but you've lost me. You said that the midwest s conservative, but you mention Bernie's gains. Maybe the midwest isn't as conservative as you suggest? As for angry types, I saw those videos with the speeches: Sanders, O'Malley and Clinton, not the Republicans. What you call angry, I'd call optimistic about improvement. Especially Sanders.
I guess time will tell.
2-2-16@3:56 am et
I'm trying to follow your comment, but you've lost me. You said that the midwest s conservative, but you mention Bernie's gains. Maybe the midwest isn't as conservative as you suggest? As for angry types, I saw those videos with the speeches: Sanders, O'Malley and Clinton, not the Republicans. What you call angry, I'd call optimistic about improvement. Especially Sanders.
I guess time will tell.
2-2-16@3:56 am et
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The one good news to come out of the Republican results is that with all his billions and his super pacs and his GOP connections to big dollar donors, Jeb BUSH! still can't win an election.
And it gives us all hope that with all the Wall Street money in the world, and the DNC and media tipping the scales every chance they get, the same might be true for Hillary Clinton.
And it gives us all hope that with all the Wall Street money in the world, and the DNC and media tipping the scales every chance they get, the same might be true for Hillary Clinton.
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"Now may be time to harness some of that Carcetti-like charm and start cozying up to Clinton staffers. If you play your cards (and your guitar) right, a Cabinet post might be waiting for you next January."
Yet another example of NYT staffers showing their bias towards Hillary Clinton.
Yet another example of NYT staffers showing their bias towards Hillary Clinton.
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Do you understand what endorsed means?
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@lundtv. I understand. It means that the EDITORIAL BOARD endorsed her for nomination. If you think that means that every op-ed writer and ANY reporter should freight their output with that endorsement millstone, then Inwould suggest that it is you who does not understand the meaning of endorsement. The Times endorsed Hillary over freshman Senator Barack Obama in 2008. How did that one work out? That time, as this, the Times chose their accomplice to war crimes in Iraq over someone who opposed the illegal invasion.
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Go away and do? You aren't really needed here bub.
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I'm sorry to say good bye to O'Malley so soon. He's a brave man to get into the ring with HRC and Sen. Sanders. He may not have caucused well, but he's done himself no harm and a considerable amount of good. In the next generation of Democratic leaders, he's now got an edge. I look forward to seeing him on the national stage again. Mr. O'Malley, a tip on your nonverbal communication: you tend to stand with your feet close together, creating a narrow base that looks precarious. Broaden that base.
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@LLynN,
I count on seeing O'Malley on the national stage again. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if we don't. BTW, a good share of the blame and responsibility goes to Debbie Wasserman Schultz of the DNC. I recall his face when he asked for more time at the last debate, after being basically ignored. He was QUITE gracious, but his smile and his eyes, warm as they were showed everything. I was incensed for him. She needs to leave NOW.
2-2-16@4:32 am et
I count on seeing O'Malley on the national stage again. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if we don't. BTW, a good share of the blame and responsibility goes to Debbie Wasserman Schultz of the DNC. I recall his face when he asked for more time at the last debate, after being basically ignored. He was QUITE gracious, but his smile and his eyes, warm as they were showed everything. I was incensed for him. She needs to leave NOW.
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I had never heard of him until this election, but I did like his ideas and I like a lot of what he has to say (when he's allowed to speak), and he seems very sincere. I expect to see more of him in the future.
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I'm fed up with the DNC! The 50-State Initiative Howard Dean wanted to put into place was ignored. We let state leaderships go to extremist GOP leaders. Ever since there's been a war on women and unions, among many egregious actions. Think Flint's water crisis.
No organized message highlights Democratic successes. The untruths, attacks from the Right, are seldom refuted. As a result, many end up voting against their own self interest. We do not tell them often and loudly enough what has been accomplished for them--against a headwind of GOP opposition and inaction.
Scheduling of this season's political debates on weekends was inconceivable! If that was DWS's idea, then she needs to go! What a disservice to our candidates and the voters!
The DNC has made serious mistakes. We will all pay for them.
No organized message highlights Democratic successes. The untruths, attacks from the Right, are seldom refuted. As a result, many end up voting against their own self interest. We do not tell them often and loudly enough what has been accomplished for them--against a headwind of GOP opposition and inaction.
Scheduling of this season's political debates on weekends was inconceivable! If that was DWS's idea, then she needs to go! What a disservice to our candidates and the voters!
The DNC has made serious mistakes. We will all pay for them.
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This being the New York Times, I was expecting the article to tell Senator Sanders that it was time to pack it up and go home to Vermont given what appears (as of 1:00 a.m) to be his devastating 0.2% loss to Secretary Clinton.
Is it possible that the Times is starting to wake up to reality that the Sanders campaign is for real?
Feel the Bern.
Is it possible that the Times is starting to wake up to reality that the Sanders campaign is for real?
Feel the Bern.
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I'm getting a bit tired of the parand victimhood of Sanders supporters.
And no, I will not "feel the Bern" because I'm not a 14-year-old at a Justin Bieber concert.
But, as a Democrat, I will take a pragmatic look at policy, electibility and ability to get things done and will vote accordingly. And, unlike many Sanders supporters, I will not sit this one out no matter who the nominee is.
And no, I will not "feel the Bern" because I'm not a 14-year-old at a Justin Bieber concert.
But, as a Democrat, I will take a pragmatic look at policy, electibility and ability to get things done and will vote accordingly. And, unlike many Sanders supporters, I will not sit this one out no matter who the nominee is.
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Ralphie--
Your support for Secretary Clinton is perfectly acceptable. No one in Bernie's camp is asking you to sit this one out. The Sanders supporters I know want you to participate whether you support Bernie or Hillary.
Doubtless you won't agree with me, but I actually think Hillary is far more vulnerble than Sanders come the general election. One example of why so many of us think she is so very vulnerable: The woman who as first lady and as a 2008 presidential candidate consistently pushed for single payer universal health insurance is now opposed to the concept. Meanwhile, in just three years -- from 2013 for 2015 -- she received roughly $2.8 million from the health industry for 11 speeches-- that's about $200,000 a speech. And if she has made a convincing case that these enormouns sums of money (were you ever paid $200k for making a speech?) are not de facto bribery, I haven't yet heard it.
See: https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
P.S. I am a grey haired retired finance professional who saw what happened in 2008 up close and personal and who has followed that industry very closely since my subsequent retirement.
Your support for Secretary Clinton is perfectly acceptable. No one in Bernie's camp is asking you to sit this one out. The Sanders supporters I know want you to participate whether you support Bernie or Hillary.
Doubtless you won't agree with me, but I actually think Hillary is far more vulnerble than Sanders come the general election. One example of why so many of us think she is so very vulnerable: The woman who as first lady and as a 2008 presidential candidate consistently pushed for single payer universal health insurance is now opposed to the concept. Meanwhile, in just three years -- from 2013 for 2015 -- she received roughly $2.8 million from the health industry for 11 speeches-- that's about $200,000 a speech. And if she has made a convincing case that these enormouns sums of money (were you ever paid $200k for making a speech?) are not de facto bribery, I haven't yet heard it.
See: https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
P.S. I am a grey haired retired finance professional who saw what happened in 2008 up close and personal and who has followed that industry very closely since my subsequent retirement.
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Maro, you know why Clinton is so very vulnerable? Because you and other people who support Sanders keep hammering Clinton about her speaking fees - something which almost no one cares about - but it still makes her more vulnerable when independents see other Democrats trashing one of their own. If she gets the nomination how will you make the pivot to supporting her? If you can't then you guarantee a Republican president.
Sanders' supporters remind me of Nader's supporters. And we all know how that turned out.
Support Sanders if you want to. But make the case for him, not against anyone else.
Sanders' supporters remind me of Nader's supporters. And we all know how that turned out.
Support Sanders if you want to. But make the case for him, not against anyone else.
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Nor Mark...
I wish O'Malley would continue to run just to bring a balance to the debates. I liked the guy, and he was the old fashioned young nice Democrat, though Presidential he was not, and did not even try, Everybody knew from the start he was not going to be a nominee but the guy did some intelligent things to contribute. And what can you say to a guy who feels like a 53 year old going on 35. I liked him and like him though he was weak on policy discussions and real vision for the US or the Democratic party.
In affability and charm he gets 10. He was not the snarky Clinton or the shouting Bernie. O'Malley...run man run just for the heck of it, fun of it and for your terrific American smile.
I wish O'Malley would continue to run just to bring a balance to the debates. I liked the guy, and he was the old fashioned young nice Democrat, though Presidential he was not, and did not even try, Everybody knew from the start he was not going to be a nominee but the guy did some intelligent things to contribute. And what can you say to a guy who feels like a 53 year old going on 35. I liked him and like him though he was weak on policy discussions and real vision for the US or the Democratic party.
In affability and charm he gets 10. He was not the snarky Clinton or the shouting Bernie. O'Malley...run man run just for the heck of it, fun of it and for your terrific American smile.
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And to the GOP: This is an unwieldy number of candidates. The quantity does not enhance quality. Scores of visions of turning back the clocks and towards a Christian theocracy. And it also means more "losers," as Trump would say.
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Might I humbly suggest to the former governor that he take up stamp collecting or beekeeping, abandoning running for president as a hobby.