Please, NY Times, first explain to me why you never publish my comments. Then, and more importantly, think a trite more strategically about your presidential campaign coverage. You well know that negative publicity is as good as any, such that your constant mockery of Donald Trump serves his electoral ambitions as much as any paid propaganda could. Perhaps even better. For this reason I beg you to ask yourselves why nearly all of your frontline politics headlines are about Trump. If you didn't report every little bigoted statement he made, his little moronic flame would die out just as it does with so many other logically inconsistent and painfully ignorant lunes. I guess what I mean to say is, if that man becomes president, it will be partly your fault, and that makes me whimper like a cold, wet kitten baby abandoned on a wintery roadside.
Why is it so hard for so many to understand that the cries for hatred against all Muslims and all out war against ISIS as though it were a actually a state is exactly what they want and pray for: Armageddon on the ground with the US under an incompetent buffoon like Donald Trump. He is their best weapon!! People who support him are indirectly supporting the will of ISIS.
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at the end of this piece some random guy named mike says "that last deal in california it changes the game"
how absurd!!!! if that is the american weltanshauung then all hope is indeed lost. just think of columbine, sandy hook, the monthly massacres of children and others that characterize our nation, indeed, define who we are are as a society. they cause handwringing in some quarters but increased power for the NRA. yet when two muslims shoot up some innocents in the us then we freak out like chicken little. our natural terrorists are homegrown not muslim. the white shooters get a free pass from the hoi polloi but 2 muslims with guns can send the electorate into stark terror and send a moron like trump into the white house where he can finish the job started by g w bush. the apocalyptic religious nuts of isis and america, whose incentives are all aligned, must all be so happy. soon, the messiah.
how absurd!!!! if that is the american weltanshauung then all hope is indeed lost. just think of columbine, sandy hook, the monthly massacres of children and others that characterize our nation, indeed, define who we are are as a society. they cause handwringing in some quarters but increased power for the NRA. yet when two muslims shoot up some innocents in the us then we freak out like chicken little. our natural terrorists are homegrown not muslim. the white shooters get a free pass from the hoi polloi but 2 muslims with guns can send the electorate into stark terror and send a moron like trump into the white house where he can finish the job started by g w bush. the apocalyptic religious nuts of isis and america, whose incentives are all aligned, must all be so happy. soon, the messiah.
A lot of common threads here, e.g., going back to the world when we were kids, Carter being a lousy president, getting our country back, to name a few that popped up among 3000 redundant little posts. I'm not a liberal, conservative, or what whatever Rand says he is...uh...a...libertarian.
So. How great our country was when we were kids. Good times. Had to get up, go to school, come home, have milk and cookiesosssk
So. How great our country was when we were kids. Good times. Had to get up, go to school, come home, have milk and cookiesosssk
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What saddens me most on this Friday evening is that few of us can name any of the victims in San Bernardino, Colorado Springs, the Oregon Community College, Northern Arizona University....but we all know Trump. We should be ashamed.
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Trump is a prime example of ignorance in action. Only this time, he has multitudes of followers which makes him dangerous.
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Beyond the bigotry, xenophobia and hate for so many groups, part of the appeal is that Trump seems like a freak of nature, larger, than life, full of hyperbole, saying lunatic things that just make his followers even more demented.
In the 19th century, there was a saying about "seeing the elephant". People would aim at or experience something extraordinary, beginning with high ideals than finding low frustrations. in Donald Trump, they have seen the elephant!
RIP, GOP.
In the 19th century, there was a saying about "seeing the elephant". People would aim at or experience something extraordinary, beginning with high ideals than finding low frustrations. in Donald Trump, they have seen the elephant!
RIP, GOP.
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SMB - "...bigotry, xenophobia and hate for so many groups,"
How liberal progressives describe an opposing viewpoint.
"RIP, GOP."
A perfect example of liberal progressive tolerance for diversity.
How liberal progressives describe an opposing viewpoint.
"RIP, GOP."
A perfect example of liberal progressive tolerance for diversity.
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Hillary's giggle, along with her frequent flip-flopping, is almost enough to influence even a knee-jerk establishment Democrat to vote for Bernie. Has he giggled lately?
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Republicans are playing a dangerous game. They are pushing USA into dark zone where politics of negativity and fear is used often to win an election. These politicians are what we need to be afraid of because their attack would be not be obvious and by the time we realize that it will be too late. Its not mexican or muslims its these corrupt politicians who are responsible for any mass shootings in America. We have great responsbility of choosing the right people for Washington. And please remember Gandhi's principles of peace and life.
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If the nominees are Clinton and Trump, I predict Trump in a landslide. His appeal is across party lines.
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Yo Hillary, where were you when they called you at 3:00 am? Oh yeah, "What difference does it make?" For her to make any claims to competence when it comes to national security is disgustingly cynical. Of course her loyal herd of Useful Idiots will lap it up but anybody with more than two functioning brain cells will see her for the corrupt fraud she is.
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It's nice to see all the Bush apologists crawl out of their holes and show themselves in time for 2016.
How did those Ebola travel bans work out for you ?
Obama and Hillary kept you alive and safe ( yes you ), and you thank them with infantile name calling and the laziest set of solutions to complex problems ever ( bomb Iran, bomb Syria, bomb Iraq, bomb Putin, destroy ISIS ... wow, that took a lot of thought ).
How did those Ebola travel bans work out for you ?
Obama and Hillary kept you alive and safe ( yes you ), and you thank them with infantile name calling and the laziest set of solutions to complex problems ever ( bomb Iran, bomb Syria, bomb Iraq, bomb Putin, destroy ISIS ... wow, that took a lot of thought ).
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The reason why we thought Trump would go away is because we gave the GOP way more credit than it deserved. It's much much worse over there on the Right than we could have imagined. Folks, beware, there's no candidate on the Right that can save the GOP. Vote for Hillary or stay home.
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Trump is right! Trump/Cruz 2016 Conservative victory is coming and the hope and change people voted for 8 years ago will be realized.
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Hillary may be the favorite of the establishment, but she loses to Sanders in a head to head with Trump or any other republican candidates. Trump will likely beat Hillary but Sanders will win against Trump, so I guess she's not laughing anymore. If you want Trump defeated, she's not the one to vote for.
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People keep talk about Americans being angry. Seriously? I think they are the people who listen to right wing crazy media and are being brainwashed that they are angry. Housing is back better than ever, gas is 2 bucks a gallon, good jobs are coming back with higher wages. The big banks aren't collapsing and we are out, for the most part of those awful two wars. We have terrorists to deal with but since we bombed their countries into rubble what do we expect. Most people I know are very angry about our lax gun law's and useless congress
and classrooms full of children getting slaughtered. Merry Christmas.
and classrooms full of children getting slaughtered. Merry Christmas.
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France did not respond to the terrorist attacks with talk about banning Muslim immigrants. Are they braver or more stupid? I'd say braver. Also, the other Republican candidates did not distance themselves from Trump's proposal. Saying the U.S. should only admit immigrants who are Christian - see remarks by Bush and Cruz - is saying the same thing. There's no distance at all between them.
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I'm a lifelong Republican, but I'm not voting for Trump. He's a phony. I don't believe anything he says. We are paying for two presidents who were too close to the issues overseas to make objective decisions. Americans must be responsible adults at the ballot box, and that guy is a loose cannon which is exactly what we don't need.
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Trump is the Man. You really need to quit getting second hand information. He's not a loose cannon, Obama is a loose cannon. Trump is the type of person every foreigner who comes to this country is trying to be. Some envy him to the point of hating him because they are not him and wish they were him and since they are not him and never will be him they, in their mind, have no other choice, but to hate him. Do you think, if Trump was an unsuccessful homeless man, anyone would really care about his opinion. Let's be real here, as much as it my hurt people's pride, it's reality.
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The only way to counter fantasy is with reality. Clearly defined plans to stabilize Social Security, expand research, build new infrastructure and incent companies to grow payroll. Clearly defined plans on exactly who is taxed and how much to pay for it all. Make sure they add up. Make the the press is wowed by the reality of the approach. Forget the idea of a Grand Bargain and announce your own Grand Plan.
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Bernie, Bernie,Bernie!
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Bernie controls the unsuccessful, envious crowd and their simpitizers.
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Trump will soon pounce on Calgary Cruz, a donor-controlled shill who wants to gut the middle class with a 500% increase in H-1B visas. Low-info tea partiers love "outsider" Cruz's sardonic rhetoric, but he's a career politician, and he and his Goldman Sachs investment banker wife want to do nothing but fleece the middle class for their puppet masters.
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The once trusted polls, just like Nielson ratings can no longer be counted on. Seems a lot of people no longer have land lines and more tv shows are either recorded or streamed. Today's technology is not reliable for polls.
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Perhaps Donald Trump should bring a group of his followers and join a team headed toward the river to do some fishing. With a line in the water, the sun drenched river flowing out and in, he might discover the difference between political correctness and wisdom, the timeless, unchanging truths that are not the bursting bromides he offers. Wisdom has a finish and one is wise begins with the end in mind. Not Donald Trump. He never considers the consequences of his mouth.
Fishing would teach him how to see things through; there's not much controversy you can start with a fish. It would certainly expand his skill set. Finally, it might teach him to focus on something else besides himself--he who doesn't not assimilate new lessons well and continues to be politically incorrect even as his enemies declare his ideas exactly what they seek as rewards.
Fishing would teach him how to see things through; there's not much controversy you can start with a fish. It would certainly expand his skill set. Finally, it might teach him to focus on something else besides himself--he who doesn't not assimilate new lessons well and continues to be politically incorrect even as his enemies declare his ideas exactly what they seek as rewards.
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Above "wisely begins," omit is.
What's that? Trump is the Id-iot of the Republican Party? (Hard to pick just one.)
Seriously though, how did Trump's followers morph into "the electorate?" They represent 35% of likely Republican primary voters, which means about 1/6 of total likely voters. (And that doesn't count all the angry Muslims, hispanics and so on who will be sure to vote this time around.)
Seriously though, how did Trump's followers morph into "the electorate?" They represent 35% of likely Republican primary voters, which means about 1/6 of total likely voters. (And that doesn't count all the angry Muslims, hispanics and so on who will be sure to vote this time around.)
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You're so use to living in a fantasy you're spoiled yourself. Trump is the Man. He's like the only sober person at the party where everyone else is slobbering drunk.
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I think there is going to be a lot of Democrats voting for Trump just like they did for Reagan. We have the EXACT same circumstances. An inept Democrat president with weak foreign policy while Islamic terrorism is rising. A poor economy with no free market solutions being offered. And a PURE JOKE of a Democrat candidate. Well, two pure jokes including Heir Sanders.
Call me all the names you want. These circumstances led to 489 electoral college votes, most EVER by a non-incumbent. 44 states to 6. A complete BLOWOUT. Your hate is irrelevant.
America is sick of our "Apologizer in Chief." America is sick of weak leadership. America is sick of being called "racists" while Islamic terrorists are murdering innocents all around the world and in our own backyard.
Those of you who think Hillary can beat Trump, you're just not paying attention to reality. You only hear what you want to. Hey, it's not to late to vote for Jimmy Carter or Walter Mondale! LOL!
Call me all the names you want. These circumstances led to 489 electoral college votes, most EVER by a non-incumbent. 44 states to 6. A complete BLOWOUT. Your hate is irrelevant.
America is sick of our "Apologizer in Chief." America is sick of weak leadership. America is sick of being called "racists" while Islamic terrorists are murdering innocents all around the world and in our own backyard.
Those of you who think Hillary can beat Trump, you're just not paying attention to reality. You only hear what you want to. Hey, it's not to late to vote for Jimmy Carter or Walter Mondale! LOL!
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Bernie will beat both of them.
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I agree. Trump hasn't even started campaigning yet. Everyone who is honest knows Hillary is a liar and married to a woman abuser. And Bernie is a socialist. The fact that Trump is not beholden to "big money" is going to appeal to many many people.
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Puke, if he doesn't die from old age in the process, he will bring the US down the same road as Greece. Liberals just are not very quick learners and have no foresight whatsoever. They just don't pay attention to history and the failure of socialism. It's funny how liberals preach about diversity, but doesn't seem to notice that there is no diversity in their current set of Presidential candidates and the conservatives have a very diverse group of candidates. The liberal make derogatory remarks toward the conservative candidates without one mention of racism, yet when conservative rightfully critizes Obama for his unconstitutional policies, all the conservatives hear are never ending accusations of racism. The liberal should really try practicing what they preach; it hilarious.
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So, regarding the so called "unjust" Iraq war, I don't know if some of the war critics kept up with everything when Bush was in office, but the war with Iraq and Afghanistan all started with the events of 9/11. To start with, an investigation took place that showed the terrorist that took part in the 9/11 attacks had been planning these attacks very early on in the Clinton administration and nothing was ever done to stop this. Of course, at that time, no one had imagined someone would ever do this. Shortly after Bush came into office is when 9/11 took place. At that time Saddam Hussein was launching rockets at Israel, had previously invaded another country and had kill a lot of the Iraqis with chemical weapons.
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You like your history fictionalized? Perhaps you might remember that Clinton in fact tried to kill Osama bin Laden. Republicans screamed it was a "wag the dog" distraction from their Monica scandal. After the Cole was targeted, an investigation was undertaken: the results were only released after Clinton left office and when Bush was in office. He did zero, although they established the attack was by Al Qaeda. The Bush administration was warned numerous times - by Sandy Berger, Richard Clark, and the CIA among others - and they did nothing. NINE months after Bush took office occurred the 9/11 attacks. They did not happen on Clinton's watch. Only the feckless Bush and his poor national security group (which actually demoted Richard Clark from cabinet level). Clark was right about everything.
Iraq had zero to do with 9/11 by the way. Zero.
Iraq had zero to do with 9/11 by the way. Zero.
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Bush had gotten word from his advisers that Saddam Hussein had WMD. At that time for anyone with a brain, it wasn't far fetched to believe that. Not only did Bush suspect that, but the president before him, on several occasions mentioned his own suspicion of that, but never acted on it because it was politically incorrect to do so. So let's take a brief logical thought stop here to say, it wasn't something made up by Bush. By the way, the previous president before Bush was Clinton, for those critics of Bush that like to follow the masses and don't really take the time to think logically for themselves. At that time Bush had gotten approval from both the House and Senate and even went to the UN for approval to invade Iraq, some people politically opposed to Bush tries to hide these facts. Granted, WMD were never found, but there were rumors and theories that the WMD had been move to Syria before the US invaded. Not completely unreasonably considering who Saddam was. Regardless of whether there were actual WMDs or not, the fact of the matter is, Bush went through the proper channels to invade Iraq, plus Saddam Hussein was a very bad guy and many Iraqis were very happy to obtain the voting rights they had after the smoke cleared.
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WMD is a red herring.
Every country has some form of WMD. Bush specifically implied nuclear weapons that Saddam wanted to detonate here in the US.
That's a fraudulent claim.
But what is worse is the slipshod manner in which the war was conducted. No regard to collateral damage, no actual determination to find terrorists or put a stable government in place.
Let all of the military guys flee to Syria ( you know them as the military arm of ISIS ).
$3 trillion dollars in debt, thousands of lives lost.
And he set an artificial deadline for leaving, despite promising in the State of The Union address that he wouldn't.
There was nothing wrong with the idea of a war as a last resort, but Bush took that as a blank check and was a terrible commander in chief.
The thousands of soldiers alive today because Obama wasn't as reckless are a testament to his greatness and Bush's weakness.
Now watch this drive ...
Every country has some form of WMD. Bush specifically implied nuclear weapons that Saddam wanted to detonate here in the US.
That's a fraudulent claim.
But what is worse is the slipshod manner in which the war was conducted. No regard to collateral damage, no actual determination to find terrorists or put a stable government in place.
Let all of the military guys flee to Syria ( you know them as the military arm of ISIS ).
$3 trillion dollars in debt, thousands of lives lost.
And he set an artificial deadline for leaving, despite promising in the State of The Union address that he wouldn't.
There was nothing wrong with the idea of a war as a last resort, but Bush took that as a blank check and was a terrible commander in chief.
The thousands of soldiers alive today because Obama wasn't as reckless are a testament to his greatness and Bush's weakness.
Now watch this drive ...
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Well at the time, no one knew what Saddam had; no person, no country and no President. That was the same line of thinking coming from the Clinton administration, but liberals always want to avoid that fact because it's one of those inconvenient truths that exposes their lie.
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People always forget what it's like to be in the moment. That is one of liberal best strategies.
There were a lot of lying politicians who criticized Bush for what he did, but most of those people voted for that action to take place and yet they deny that they did, which makes them a liar. These lies caused most of the people who don't keep up with the news to believe those lies and turn against Bush. Remember, the US was just attacked and Bush felt obligated to retaliate against everyone involve, so he did what he thought would achieve that objective and even received approval for it before hand. Why did he do this? Answer: Because he loves his country. Events moved very fast at the time and was difficult to keep up with, if a person didn't pay attention to it.
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"Remember, the US was just attacked and Bush felt obligated to retaliate against everyone involve, so he did what he thought would achieve that objective and even received approval"
Suddam Hussein was NOT involved in 9/11. The Iraq war was NOT a "retaliation", it was an abomination. Are you joking?
Suddam Hussein was NOT involved in 9/11. The Iraq war was NOT a "retaliation", it was an abomination. Are you joking?
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Obama came into office and instead of the doing what was the correct long term move that would protect our country, he played politics and created a void in Iraq that eventually got filled by people who kill for enjoyment. The Iraqis, Middle East and the US are now suffering the consequences of incorrect actions Obama took plus his total lack of foresight, which he had no trace of.
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The solution to starting a million-lives-lost, $3 trillion war is here given as staying there indefinitely. Why fess up when you can double down?
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Stoutly,
We still have troops in Germany and that kept the peace, just as troops remaining in Iraq would have. Bush handed Obama an Iraq that had become a stable, democratic ally - all wrapped up with a neat little bow. But no, Obama had to be a hero to his leftist cheering section and "end the war" by bringing all American troops home in 2011. And that's when it all fell apart. (And by the way, those "million lives lost" were Iraqis killing other Iraqis. If we do Iraqis the favor of deposing their dictator and they decide to celebrate their freedom by killing each other, that's on them.)
We still have troops in Germany and that kept the peace, just as troops remaining in Iraq would have. Bush handed Obama an Iraq that had become a stable, democratic ally - all wrapped up with a neat little bow. But no, Obama had to be a hero to his leftist cheering section and "end the war" by bringing all American troops home in 2011. And that's when it all fell apart. (And by the way, those "million lives lost" were Iraqis killing other Iraqis. If we do Iraqis the favor of deposing their dictator and they decide to celebrate their freedom by killing each other, that's on them.)
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Thank you for the absolute true Joseph.
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It is apparent that establishments of both parties, especially the GOP, r more worried about TRUMP, who speaks his mind, seldom uses notes, and says what so many have on their minds,but r chary of saying so,than they r of ISIS. Article in Washington POST by Parker--I understand why Eliot Spitzer could not stand her--wrote that establishment Republicans should write off the 2016 election, and begin preparing for 2020 in hopes of attracting more moderate elements, and ditch the TEA PARTY.I have a hunch that if DT does not get nomination, his supporters, which grow numerically stronger by the day, will stay home on election day.Can't think of a candidate in whom average people have invested more charisma than DT. As they say in the diplomatic corps, he is "can do." Whether faith of voters is justified can only be known if he wins the Presidency."Meanwhile , Mitch McConnell and other establishment Republicans are pushing hard to appropriate funds for the admission of Syrian refugees, contrary to what many in the GOP and the country want. And we thought we had a two party system, and the GOP was the loyal oppposition! Let us rather speak of the "parti unique."
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Hillary should not feel smug believing that Donald's nomination leads to her winning. A lot of people believe that Hillary has an awful lot to do with the unsettling of the Middle East and Obama's disastrous foreign policy. Her numbers are o.k. now, but she isn't really running against any real candidate. Honestly, i don't fear the terrorist possibilities, I far more afraid of the damage she will do if she is the Dem. Candidate. It might be just what democrats need to have Comney and the FBI Charge her to get a candidate with some substance.
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Perhaps for the good of the country Hillary can throw her support behind Bernie Sanders. By doing so she can solidify her place in history and we can begin the national healing we so desperately need.
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Would it not be wonderful if the press would stop covering Mr. Trump/? This is not news, it is a small child undressing in public and screaming look at me. I He has no mioitary experience, he i is is ignorant, and his rage engages so ---- ignore him.
"I He has no mioitary experience, he i is is ignorant, and his rage engages so ---- ignore him"
Didn't stop Obama from being elected twice and Hillary seeking to be Clinton II/Obama Jr.
Didn't stop Obama from being elected twice and Hillary seeking to be Clinton II/Obama Jr.
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No, I like!!! It.
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Increasingly people on the left are supporting Trump because Hillary and Obama have a cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia, which sponsors ISIS terrorists. Sure Trump's a clown, but he's a better speaker than Hillary and makes people feel safer.
Early in Obama's first term when he was elected in 2008 he promised the 9/11 families that he'd release the Bush Jr. classified 28 pages that went into the Saudi financing of 9/11, but instead has chosen not to release them, thereby protecting the Saudis, just as Bush Jr had done. Perhaps, Trump whose not close to the Saudis will finally have those pages declassified if he's president.
Early in Obama's first term when he was elected in 2008 he promised the 9/11 families that he'd release the Bush Jr. classified 28 pages that went into the Saudi financing of 9/11, but instead has chosen not to release them, thereby protecting the Saudis, just as Bush Jr had done. Perhaps, Trump whose not close to the Saudis will finally have those pages declassified if he's president.
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So "a cozy relationship with Saudi Arabia" is your only issue? That, alone, causes you to vote against Clinton and for Trump? Seems to me a lot more is involved.
Tough, eh?
I wonder how many of those Trump supporters also voted for W. Remember him? The one who ignored warning after warning about an impending 9/11, who after learning of the attack sat in a classroom for NINE MINUTES reading a children's book, who was too busy helping create ISIL with his little foray into Iraq that he couldn't be bothered to dispose of, uh ... uh ... what was that guy's name?
I wonder how many of those Trump supporters also voted for W. Remember him? The one who ignored warning after warning about an impending 9/11, who after learning of the attack sat in a classroom for NINE MINUTES reading a children's book, who was too busy helping create ISIL with his little foray into Iraq that he couldn't be bothered to dispose of, uh ... uh ... what was that guy's name?
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Bush was blamed for everything from the war in Afghanistan and Iraq during his term in office to the financial crisis after his term in office. A few people even blamed him for the actually implementation of the 9-11 attacks and those same people were able to convince many more he was responsible for its implementation. So it's not far fetched to believe people could be convinced he went into Iraq purposely to somehow avenge Saddam for something other than protecting our soldiers and friends in the region and for the long term making the U.S. safer. Unfortunately that goal got knocked off its tracks when Obama got in office.
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I seem to remember there being an attack on the World Trade Center when Bill Clinton was President.
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So supposing in one year Trump gets into the Whitehouse. Who is he going to surround himself with? Well... Here's a few of his supporters with governing experience:
- Jesse Ventura
- Schwarzenegger
- Clint Eastwood
- Sarah Palin
Oh... And there's Ted Nugent. He'll be singing "Cat Scratch Fever" at the inauguration. But please don't laugh.
Hey, it's a start.
- Jesse Ventura
- Schwarzenegger
- Clint Eastwood
- Sarah Palin
Oh... And there's Ted Nugent. He'll be singing "Cat Scratch Fever" at the inauguration. But please don't laugh.
Hey, it's a start.
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Oh geez come up with better criticism, won't you? Thats like saying President Obama was going to induct Jay Z into the cabinet or Hillary Clinton is going to induct Barbara Stresiand.
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Americans are angry and feeling economically insecure, I get that, But why are so many so utterly afraid of terrorism when the reality is that the risk to an individual is statistically almost negligible? It's getting close to all out hysteria!
Terrorist attacks are not new. In the 1960's and early 1970's there were more than a few bombings in the United States by groups such as The Weather Underground. That's not to mention all the political assassination attempts - successful and not: Kennedy, Kennedy, King Jr., Wallace, Ford (the secret service spotted the handgun in time before shots were fired), Reagan.
The U.K. suffered through a seeming endless stream of tit for tat pub bombings as well as the horrific massive bombing of The Queen's Horses in Hyde Park. Elsewhere, Europe was not exempt as far left groups such as Baader-Meinhoff and the Red Brigades left a bloody trail of kidnappings and assassinations. Let's not forget all the hijacking of airplanes. At one point almost a weekly occurence.
People stayed calm and carried on. Today, the American people are in a state of collective freak out. We've had a few incidents here in Canada, but no one I know worries about it. What is going on with you south of the border? I don't get it.
Terrorist attacks are not new. In the 1960's and early 1970's there were more than a few bombings in the United States by groups such as The Weather Underground. That's not to mention all the political assassination attempts - successful and not: Kennedy, Kennedy, King Jr., Wallace, Ford (the secret service spotted the handgun in time before shots were fired), Reagan.
The U.K. suffered through a seeming endless stream of tit for tat pub bombings as well as the horrific massive bombing of The Queen's Horses in Hyde Park. Elsewhere, Europe was not exempt as far left groups such as Baader-Meinhoff and the Red Brigades left a bloody trail of kidnappings and assassinations. Let's not forget all the hijacking of airplanes. At one point almost a weekly occurence.
People stayed calm and carried on. Today, the American people are in a state of collective freak out. We've had a few incidents here in Canada, but no one I know worries about it. What is going on with you south of the border? I don't get it.
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None of the groups you cited have 1.5 billion members and covers 30% of the planet. They also don't have a history going back 13 centuries.
America was afraid of Communism but communists do not strap a bomb to themselves not kill indiscriminately.
America was afraid of Communism but communists do not strap a bomb to themselves not kill indiscriminately.
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This native Yankee doesn't get it either. Probably it is the result of the profound insularity of the American people, historically sheltered by oceans and ignorance. 9/11 had an effect within hours, if my memory serves, in producing irrational paranoia.
As you say, Europe has a sense of proportion. My sister lived in London for years, and we were always calling her on hearing news of IRA bombs. She invariably passed off our concern. She did admit to a frisson of fear when there were threats of a second Tube bombing two weeks after the original July 7, 2005 events, but was not paralyzed into staying home from work with the first.
Strange to find such anxiety considering that the Civil War led to about 750,000 deaths and, in total, more than a million casualties. Of course, these combatants looked like us, followed the same religious sects, and spoke the same language.
As you say, Europe has a sense of proportion. My sister lived in London for years, and we were always calling her on hearing news of IRA bombs. She invariably passed off our concern. She did admit to a frisson of fear when there were threats of a second Tube bombing two weeks after the original July 7, 2005 events, but was not paralyzed into staying home from work with the first.
Strange to find such anxiety considering that the Civil War led to about 750,000 deaths and, in total, more than a million casualties. Of course, these combatants looked like us, followed the same religious sects, and spoke the same language.
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The most entertaining aspect of the 2016 presidential race may be the totally absurd things liberals dream up to cheerlead and encourage each other in hating all opposition.
It appears to be a badge of honor for hate-sellers in the blogs to elicit the most insipid reactions from their readers. Can you imagine having to play to the weakest-minded for a living?
It appears to be a badge of honor for hate-sellers in the blogs to elicit the most insipid reactions from their readers. Can you imagine having to play to the weakest-minded for a living?
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I am horrified by the comments here. I can only surmise by the rhetoric that someone in conservative talk radio has suggested people run over to comment on this piece.
A person who could even consider Donald Trump a serious candidate is not, nor have they ever been a liberal democrat. No liberal would ever find Mr. Trump anything but offensive and disgusting. And I'd like to think most liberals understand what a small threat is ISIS compared to the number of people who die every day because of lax gun control.
I also notice now that I've gotten over my shock at the first three comments, each of them uses that Right wing dog whistle of calling the liberal party the "Democrat" Party rather than the Democratic Party. A sure sign they are fans of Rush and his ilk.
How petty we've become. It's difficult to imagine adults actually run over to the NYTimes to pretend because some political bloviator told them to do so. Truly amazing.
A person who could even consider Donald Trump a serious candidate is not, nor have they ever been a liberal democrat. No liberal would ever find Mr. Trump anything but offensive and disgusting. And I'd like to think most liberals understand what a small threat is ISIS compared to the number of people who die every day because of lax gun control.
I also notice now that I've gotten over my shock at the first three comments, each of them uses that Right wing dog whistle of calling the liberal party the "Democrat" Party rather than the Democratic Party. A sure sign they are fans of Rush and his ilk.
How petty we've become. It's difficult to imagine adults actually run over to the NYTimes to pretend because some political bloviator told them to do so. Truly amazing.
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Don't think for one minute that droves were sent here by some bloviator, MJ. Lots of liberal, Democratic leaning NYT readers here are expressing as much disgust with their party and Hillary Clinton as Donald Trump. This is a wake-up call to Democrats who believe a majority of Americans will fall neatly into line behind another Clinton. That train has long left the station and Trump is only a reminder of how disgusting politics on both sides of the aisle have gotten under the status quo establishment.
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we have PLENTY of gun laws and restrictions what we need is judges who enforce them. Oh and common sense which you obviously lack
Of course you would think that you can't reason for yourself.
Hillary's laugh is a NERVOUS laugh because non-liberal Democrats, such as union members, are finding Trump appealing.
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You can thank the discredited, unpopular Hillary and the broken Wall Street run corrupt political establishment for the rise of clowns like Trump.
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ICYMI, Trump was Trump twenty years ago. He's just being himself in politics.
Besides, the Dems have a surplus of clowns all their own.
Besides, the Dems have a surplus of clowns all their own.
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Hillary has good reason to be afraid of Trump. She comes across as weak and ineffective - I, for one, would never trust her to protect myself or my family. In her long political career she has done nothing for the middle class. She bobbed and leaved all through the financial crisis as a result, I suppose, of her dependence on Wall Street and the big banks. I don't believe for one minute that she doesn't support the TPP. Hillary is a mid-western Methodist and not the least bit qualified to be president. She will find out that her support is a mile wide and an inch deep. Trump, despite all his off-the-wall comments would be a real challenge for her. She's just another run-of-the mill politician - just like Bush and all the other Republicans candidates.
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I wonder how many countries elect their leader thinking "yeah he will protect me and my family." Whichever way you analyze this phenomenon the explanation will not be positive.
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Z: All free countries. That's a leader main job!
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On top of all that, she, just like Obama, lives a lie and as a consequence, can't distinguish between fantasy and reality. That is their main problem, since most voters, excluding liberals, can distinguish between fantasy and reality. Truth is like death; it's hard and cold, so I apologize for the hard cold truth.
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It's not fear driving people to Trump. It's anger.
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Anger with their own lives.
How about some personal responsibility ?
Stop crying about Obama and do something constructive.
How about some personal responsibility ?
Stop crying about Obama and do something constructive.
If Trump becomes president, then it would be shameful for Americans, because he is a racist! and the rest of the world would see it!
Why when a white man attacked to the church and killed innocent peoples (African Americans) Trump did not say: Do not give visa to white Christian people?! what is the difference?
what happened in California, has no basis in Islam! It was just a criminal act based on wrong understanding of Islam. The word "Islam" means: "peace"!
I even can not imagine a person like Trump becomes President of USA!
If it happens we should expect more violence in the world!
Why when a white man attacked to the church and killed innocent peoples (African Americans) Trump did not say: Do not give visa to white Christian people?! what is the difference?
what happened in California, has no basis in Islam! It was just a criminal act based on wrong understanding of Islam. The word "Islam" means: "peace"!
I even can not imagine a person like Trump becomes President of USA!
If it happens we should expect more violence in the world!
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It's so reassuring to get moral messages about cruelty to people from a country where hundreds of people are executed publicly each year.
How about at least naming all the people your regime has grabbed and thrown into prisons without explanation?
How about at least naming all the people your regime has grabbed and thrown into prisons without explanation?
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I've come to the conclusion that we are exceptional country alright ... exceptionally tone deaf and stupid ...
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What I wish Hillary would do is bring up the treatment of the Japanese who were American citizens after December 7th happened. Yes, the circumstances were different and only targeted towards the military, but before 9/11 happened, those of Mid-Eastern descent were not looked at suspiciously. While we have a president who would not sign an executive order to give the military power to designate "military areas," the stories and amount of hostility towards American-born Muslims shows that some people in this country will never learn from its past history. As a person who had a grandmother whose home was taken away and sent to an internment camp because of her race, the remarks from Donald Trump and his supporters makes me incredibly angry. It is those types of remarks that can lead to rash decisions because of fear and ignorance. So while many may say Hillary's prose about tolerance is weak, I beg to differ. I only wish she would say more on the subject and use the aftermath of the Pearl Harbor attack as a dose of cold reality that we do not allow ourselves to follow once more.
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So heartened to read the comments here mocking the focus of this story, calling out the Democratic party for its myopia and challenging the conventional wisdom about Hillary Clinton's invincibility. I would sooner leave the USA than vote for Donald Trump. But I will also hold my nose if Clinton is the only other choice available. As a most of the commentators here confirm, the media (most especially the imperial NYT), the two equally dysfunctional parties and all of their dumber than dumb pundits are spending far too much time drinking each others Kool-Aid and scoffing at outside of the beltway candidates to notice that a majority of the electorate is ripe and ready to bolt to a third party choice, if need be. The Democratic leadership would do well to wake up and smell the coffee. The one and only antidote to a Trump or Carson nomination is a legitimate truth-teller and honest broker with a moral as well as ethical compass like Bernie Sanders.
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She would do well to steer clear from anything Trump related. If Trump goes too far, let Obama speak up, not her. Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs yourself? Trump's crowd are not convinced by arguments, their fears are irrational and well deserved. Most vocal, angry, low-educated right-wing people never actually vote anyhow, in the US and everywhere else. He's republican but somehow not a hypocrite, he spills the family secrets. How is that not the best thing that could possibly happen for the people that have voted GOP against their own interests for decades?
"He can't close the deal!"- Hillary on Obama in 2007.
"He can't close the deal!"- Hillary on Trump in 2015.
"He can't close the deal!"- Hillary on Trump in 2015.
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Nice that the headline was changed from "Democrats" to "Hillary Clinton"
At least now it is more upfront in its subject matter as another piece of propaganda that leads the public into assuming the only possible nominee is Hilllary Clinton.
At least now it is more upfront in its subject matter as another piece of propaganda that leads the public into assuming the only possible nominee is Hilllary Clinton.
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I see why you changed the title of this article from "Democrats Try to Figure Out How Anxiety Is Fueling Trump’s Following" -- it's all about Hillary Clinton and nobody else. The New York Times does realize that Bernie Sanders is still running, right? It's hard to tell sometimes.
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I'm looking at that photograph by Ray Whitehouse and it's fantastic. Great composition. That has to go up for an award.
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If Mrs. Clinton cannot understand Mr. Trump's rise in popularity for suggesting a halt to Muslim immigration after:
-the Sept 2001 attack on the World Trade Centre
-the October 2002 bombings in Bali
-the July 2005 London bus bombings
-the March 2004 Madrid train bombing
-the January 2015 Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris
-the November 2015 Paris attacks
then she has no business running for President. And neither do the other candidates in the Republican field.
-the Sept 2001 attack on the World Trade Centre
-the October 2002 bombings in Bali
-the July 2005 London bus bombings
-the March 2004 Madrid train bombing
-the January 2015 Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris
-the November 2015 Paris attacks
then she has no business running for President. And neither do the other candidates in the Republican field.
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All those were by the followers of Wahabi cult version of Islam and not by the mainstream Muslims. The Wahabi cult was created in Saudi Arabia in the 19th century. It rejects Sunni Islam, and consider the followers of Shia Islam as apostates. It is a radical barbaric cult.
Now, having said that, research the mass murders and atrocities committed by the Christians in the US and elsewhere in the world. Also, research the number of innocent people killed by the western countries and Israel.
Therefore, blaming innocent people who have been rendered homeless because of the wars initiated by the west and our Middle Eastern allies is totally unacceptable. Further, it is a crime to punish the victims when we and our allies were responsible for rendering them homeless, destroying their homes, properties, villages, towns, cities, and their countries.
Finally, since we are responsible for destroying Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and now, Syria, we have the moral responsibility to protect the people that are fleeing from the war zones. If we reject them or demonize them as Republicans have done, then it is crime against humanity.
Now, having said that, research the mass murders and atrocities committed by the Christians in the US and elsewhere in the world. Also, research the number of innocent people killed by the western countries and Israel.
Therefore, blaming innocent people who have been rendered homeless because of the wars initiated by the west and our Middle Eastern allies is totally unacceptable. Further, it is a crime to punish the victims when we and our allies were responsible for rendering them homeless, destroying their homes, properties, villages, towns, cities, and their countries.
Finally, since we are responsible for destroying Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and now, Syria, we have the moral responsibility to protect the people that are fleeing from the war zones. If we reject them or demonize them as Republicans have done, then it is crime against humanity.
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Libya is definitely Hillary's baby. She even admits owning that debacle in her latest book nobody here has read.
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After reading the array of comments regarding this topic, I'm reminded of Pogo's conclusion on the matter of public opinion:
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
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Hillary is so detached from the average American and therefore, absolutely clueless when it comes to everyday lives and concerns. Elect her at your peril. Her wonderful hubby's actions are what ultimately brought us the collapse of housing and the Great Recession with his self-serving actions while in office, forever changing the future potential of millions. You can expect more of the same from her.
Why isn't she in jail? Oh, yeah. She's a politician with a pocketful of 'get out of jail free' cards.
Why isn't she in jail? Oh, yeah. She's a politician with a pocketful of 'get out of jail free' cards.
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I seem to recall the Great Recession/economic down turn occurred in 2006-8. I don't think Bill Clinton was president at the time.
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Trumps just paving the way for Cruz!
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Either one would work for me.
The Republicans have a bit of a problem. The usual Republican campaign practice has been to have the leaders campaign using subtle dog whistle talking points which have previously been well prepared by low level hate mongers. Trump will undoubtedly commit a prosecutable hate crime on the national stage before the primary.
Now the Republicans need to decide whether the field of campaign battle is ready for that level of forthrightness or not. If they decide it isn't ready, then they will be seen as not ready for a double dog dare, and for a Republican that may be involve a significant loss of face. Trump has mooned the Office of the President, will the Republicans follow?.
Now the Republicans need to decide whether the field of campaign battle is ready for that level of forthrightness or not. If they decide it isn't ready, then they will be seen as not ready for a double dog dare, and for a Republican that may be involve a significant loss of face. Trump has mooned the Office of the President, will the Republicans follow?.
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It's a few months too early, but wait until Trump starts in on Abedin's heritage and the fact that she will be one step away from a President.
if it's not over now, it will be over then...
if it's not over now, it will be over then...
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Excellent article from the NYT on how corrupt Clinton is.. and Abedin.
Hillary Rodham Clinton was directly involved in arranging a new government position for a top aide that allowed the aide to begin working for a private consulting firm while remaining at the State Department...
.. Mrs. Clinton personally signed forms establishing a new title and position for the aide, Huma Abedin, in March 2012. .. which allowed her to collect salaries from the State Department, the Clinton Foundation and the private firm, Teneo, which was co-founded by a former aide to President Clinton.
... potential conflicts of interests between Mrs. Clinton and Teneo clients, who included a wide roster of companies and prominent business executives, some of them also donors to the Clinton Foundation.
In an interview earlier this month, after the Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump attacked Mrs. Abedin, NBC’s Andrea Mitchell asked Mrs. Clinton whether it was fair to question Mrs. Abedin’s taking a salary from both the State Department and Teneo.
“Do you think he had a point in raising the question of whether it was appropriate for her to be taking a State Department salary and also be paid by an outside company closely associated with your husband and by you?” Ms. Mitchell asked.
“Well, you know, I was not directly involved in that,” Mrs. Clinton replied. “But everything that she did was approved, under the rules, as they existed, by the State Department.”
Hillary Rodham Clinton was directly involved in arranging a new government position for a top aide that allowed the aide to begin working for a private consulting firm while remaining at the State Department...
.. Mrs. Clinton personally signed forms establishing a new title and position for the aide, Huma Abedin, in March 2012. .. which allowed her to collect salaries from the State Department, the Clinton Foundation and the private firm, Teneo, which was co-founded by a former aide to President Clinton.
... potential conflicts of interests between Mrs. Clinton and Teneo clients, who included a wide roster of companies and prominent business executives, some of them also donors to the Clinton Foundation.
In an interview earlier this month, after the Republican presidential candidate Donald J. Trump attacked Mrs. Abedin, NBC’s Andrea Mitchell asked Mrs. Clinton whether it was fair to question Mrs. Abedin’s taking a salary from both the State Department and Teneo.
“Do you think he had a point in raising the question of whether it was appropriate for her to be taking a State Department salary and also be paid by an outside company closely associated with your husband and by you?” Ms. Mitchell asked.
“Well, you know, I was not directly involved in that,” Mrs. Clinton replied. “But everything that she did was approved, under the rules, as they existed, by the State Department.”
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Nor should Clinton be laughing. However, the US is not under attack, despite what the conservatives would have one believe. I am not minimizing the effect of the attacks in San Bernardino but need that be linked to some trumped up Islamiphobia? There was a kid with an assault weapon that took out 26 elementary school children, teachers, and his mother not too long ago. That did not trigger a nationwide hysteria that every son was going to come off the rails and kill children, adults, and parents. Timothy McVeigh killed and wounded hundreds and that lead to no mass hysteria about any public buildings being blown up.
They say regardless of the unemployment rate, if it is you adversely affected by a layoff the unemployment rate becomes 100%. I certainly have sympathy for the families of those killedf and survivors of what happened in CA but that doesn't warrant this nation being lulled into mass hysteria because it works for some wannabe polotician's narrative.
We all need to take a breath and contemplate our own safety with respect to native born Americans, foreigners, drunk drivers, acts of nature, or just plan wrong place, wrong time.
In the words of a great American leader, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself"
They say regardless of the unemployment rate, if it is you adversely affected by a layoff the unemployment rate becomes 100%. I certainly have sympathy for the families of those killedf and survivors of what happened in CA but that doesn't warrant this nation being lulled into mass hysteria because it works for some wannabe polotician's narrative.
We all need to take a breath and contemplate our own safety with respect to native born Americans, foreigners, drunk drivers, acts of nature, or just plan wrong place, wrong time.
In the words of a great American leader, "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself"
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Why are people continuously equating the the threat of Islamic terror with that of domestic crime as though they are even remotely comparable? There are armies of tens of thousands of people who are conquering territory overseas because of religious principles, and committing unbelievably inhumane acts of violence. There are tens of thousands of people scattered all over the planet including the United States whose sole purpose in life is to conceive of and perpetuate attacks that kill as many westerners as possible. They communicate, interact, and recruit on social media, and make no attempt to gloss over their intentions. Yes, they have not been terribly successful in the grand scheme of things, but they are getting better at it with each failed attempt.
How is the occasionally crazy christian attack against an abortion provider even remotely comparable in scale and magnitude?
How is the occasionally crazy christian attack against an abortion provider even remotely comparable in scale and magnitude?
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The Democrats should be trying to drive a wedge between Trump and the GOP. Trump clearly relishes campaigning. It seems unlikely that he'll drop his bid for the presidency, even if the Republicans decide to go with someone else.
Imagine if they split... Trump would peel off the angry nativist set and the GOP would be left with the slightly more reasonable "establishment" rump. The Dems would roll into the White House (though Clinton increasingly looks like a poor choice... Her op-ed about why we can't bring back Glass-Steagall was pretty lame).
Imagine if they split... Trump would peel off the angry nativist set and the GOP would be left with the slightly more reasonable "establishment" rump. The Dems would roll into the White House (though Clinton increasingly looks like a poor choice... Her op-ed about why we can't bring back Glass-Steagall was pretty lame).
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"...‘O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?’..."
She's asking this seven years into this administration? An administration that has lied about and underplayed the issue of Islamic terrorism from the get-go? This article has people from her base, Democrats, agreeing with Trump. The fact that HRC is talking about Trump shows how he has seized the political initiative. Another startling fact is that Trump's Republican opponents, the ones who regularly send every Republican fund-raising letters that start 'Will you help us STOP Hillary Clinton...' have managed to be seen loudly and publicly agreeing with her in fulsome language they didn't find it in their hearts to use against the terrorists. What a complete disaster for the DC Establishment this is. Meanwhile, across town we have the WaPo reporting on a confab amongst the Establishment Republiclowns for a 'brokered convention' putting '3% Bush' on the ticket, ensuring a third party which not only will have 90% of the Republican base but a huge number of independents and working class (including black working class) Democrats walking away from the gormless and unlovable Hillary, tied to the wreckage of Hope And Change and unable to think on her feet, and sweeping, for better or worse, The Donald into power. This is Andrew Jackson's revenge for getting bumped from the twenty.
She's asking this seven years into this administration? An administration that has lied about and underplayed the issue of Islamic terrorism from the get-go? This article has people from her base, Democrats, agreeing with Trump. The fact that HRC is talking about Trump shows how he has seized the political initiative. Another startling fact is that Trump's Republican opponents, the ones who regularly send every Republican fund-raising letters that start 'Will you help us STOP Hillary Clinton...' have managed to be seen loudly and publicly agreeing with her in fulsome language they didn't find it in their hearts to use against the terrorists. What a complete disaster for the DC Establishment this is. Meanwhile, across town we have the WaPo reporting on a confab amongst the Establishment Republiclowns for a 'brokered convention' putting '3% Bush' on the ticket, ensuring a third party which not only will have 90% of the Republican base but a huge number of independents and working class (including black working class) Democrats walking away from the gormless and unlovable Hillary, tied to the wreckage of Hope And Change and unable to think on her feet, and sweeping, for better or worse, The Donald into power. This is Andrew Jackson's revenge for getting bumped from the twenty.
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Hillary's early comments about the Trump's suggestion to curtail entrance of Muslims could not have been more damaging: "“It’s O.K., it’s O.K. to be afraid,” she said. “When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,”
Another man I know noticed this immediately, translated as "It's O.K. for you to be afraid, but Mommy will take care of her frightened children by turning on the lights so you won't have to be scared anymore."
She has a professional staff to evaluate the subconscious perceptions of her specific words, but somehow on this salient issue did not look at the deep response to members of her audience, her voters, who reject the idea that they need comforting for their fears."
The women who have succeeded in being major leaders such as "Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher eschewed their roll of comforters to become women of action, of eschewing the mommy role to be the strong father who responds with action, even if it's not the wisest approach.
Trump has the advantage of having a consistent persona that he does not have to modify based on focus groups or financial supporters. This leads to his often making outlandish statements, but being able to stick with them. When his exaggerations are pointed out, he simply repeats them, but louder, which seems to be working.
This is about the most interesting Presidential election of the seventeen that I remember.
AlRodbell.com
AlRodbell.com
Another man I know noticed this immediately, translated as "It's O.K. for you to be afraid, but Mommy will take care of her frightened children by turning on the lights so you won't have to be scared anymore."
She has a professional staff to evaluate the subconscious perceptions of her specific words, but somehow on this salient issue did not look at the deep response to members of her audience, her voters, who reject the idea that they need comforting for their fears."
The women who have succeeded in being major leaders such as "Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher eschewed their roll of comforters to become women of action, of eschewing the mommy role to be the strong father who responds with action, even if it's not the wisest approach.
Trump has the advantage of having a consistent persona that he does not have to modify based on focus groups or financial supporters. This leads to his often making outlandish statements, but being able to stick with them. When his exaggerations are pointed out, he simply repeats them, but louder, which seems to be working.
This is about the most interesting Presidential election of the seventeen that I remember.
AlRodbell.com
AlRodbell.com
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In this case, I would call it the "grandmommy role." Wasn't that her image du jour a while back?
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Let's remember that terrorism has killed but 45 people in America since 9/11. Please compare those losses to the hundreds of millions of people who make up our population. We talk about sacrifice and yet we are served bone-chilling fear. We are being menaced and should not be cowed, whether it's by terrorism or the words of any candidate. Let's stay focused on the common good and the goodness and grace that truly makes America great. Bernie Sanders believes that to be self-evident. And let's all get to the polls this year. Our votes matter more than ever.
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Pakistan has well over 100 nuclear weapons and it is a Sunni country just like ISIS.
If one of these weapons fall in the hands of ISIS you can be sure that more than 45 people will die.
Of course most Muslims are good people. But you have to be blind not to see the danger.
That does not mean we should support Trump. But Obama and Clinton are wearing blinders.
I wish NYT readers would open their eyes.
If one of these weapons fall in the hands of ISIS you can be sure that more than 45 people will die.
Of course most Muslims are good people. But you have to be blind not to see the danger.
That does not mean we should support Trump. But Obama and Clinton are wearing blinders.
I wish NYT readers would open their eyes.
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The low death toll has not been for a lack of trying. They are going to get better at it. Police killings of unarmed african americans number about 100 per year, but that hasn't stopped national outrage that is fully supported by the media, the democratic candidates (including Mr. Burns), and the current administration now has it?
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No one is laughing. It's feeling more and more like 1933 Germany everyday.
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Hillary and the Democrats have good cause to be afraid of Trump. Why? There are many, many normally Democrat voters who in the anonymity of the ballot box will cross over and vote for Trump. The political elites in both parties are clueless what is bothering the electorate. We aren't interested in lectures about diversity, inclusion and multiculturalism, we aren't happy about ignorant college students trying to redefine our history with their rabble-rousing takeovers and protests, we aren't interested in always seeing Wall Street and mega-corporations being taken care of at our expense. Trump refuses to be silenced by the PC fanatics - and that is what drives the toney wine-and-cheese-party set up the wall.
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Donald Trump would have us believe that he, and he alone, has the answer to every problem that America suffers from. However, I have never heard the actual policy solutions that would back up his claims. He says that we will build a wall, but make Mexico pay for it, but how exactly will that work? Deporting 11,000,000 illegal aliens, including babies, how? What army will we use to "round these people up and send them back where they came from?" Where will that money come from? He has a "great" tax plan, but where are the details? He is going to make his hedge fund buddies pay? Really? Trump is the 1% that the GOP has pandered to for decades, back to the infamously failed trickle down economics. I could go on, but I just get frustrated thinking about it.
We should be afraid of an individual who speaks first and never considers filtering his thoughts. We have enough enemies, why alienate the rest of the world? I think Trump truly believes his message, but I see him as the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. He is all talk and in a world of the sound bite, he is succeeding because he is charismatic. He should not be allowed to simply be the loudest voice in the room. In a debate, he should only be allowed to speak to actual policy. When he insults and baits the other participants, his microphone should be muted. We cannot allow him to be the voice of our country.
We should be afraid of an individual who speaks first and never considers filtering his thoughts. We have enough enemies, why alienate the rest of the world? I think Trump truly believes his message, but I see him as the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. He is all talk and in a world of the sound bite, he is succeeding because he is charismatic. He should not be allowed to simply be the loudest voice in the room. In a debate, he should only be allowed to speak to actual policy. When he insults and baits the other participants, his microphone should be muted. We cannot allow him to be the voice of our country.
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It always intrigues me when people clamor for details from a presidential candidate about proposed policy changes. That the candidate could accurately know the details of legislation before they are even elected is absurd, but that people actually believe those details will be implemented as claimed is even more ridiculous. A presidential candidate has no clue what the legislative bodies are going to bring to his desk if he is elected, and what the details of that legislation are going to look like other then the broad strokes ("Health Care Reform").
Unless a candidate is promising to do something with specific executive powers, any promises made about legislation is simply good old fashioned politickin' and isn't worth much more than some insight into how the candidate thinks.
Unless a candidate is promising to do something with specific executive powers, any promises made about legislation is simply good old fashioned politickin' and isn't worth much more than some insight into how the candidate thinks.
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He has very detailed solutions. The best solutions. Not like Obama who has no solutions.
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Of course the congress is going to both help and hinder a president's platform legislation, but if you are going to make broad sweeping statements there should be some background. I have never heard Trump utter a single phrase to help explain his sound bites. He simply talks over anyone who asks him the difficult questions. It is supremely egotistical and I don't think he has a clue. He cannot simply make unilateral declarations if, God forbid, he gets elected. This is not a business where he gets to order people into submission, this is a democracy where the representatives of the people can't get anything productive done, particularly not when they are told to do it.
I'm no fan of professional politicians, but they should at least understand the way the system works.
I'm no fan of professional politicians, but they should at least understand the way the system works.
What IS funny is that the best the democrats could come up with are an unaccomplished liar and a socialist. The GOP however has one of the most intelligent people to ever run for the office. And I'm not even talking about the brain surgeon, Dr Carson, I'm talking about Ted Cruz. In addition the GOP has one of the most successful businessmen of our times.
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reANDREWBRENNER: Writing from Hong Kong, I am not surprised that you write negatively of DT. If I were living and working there, I would bite my tongue too, before saying anything favorable about Mr. Trump. But even if you don't like him, you should refrain from portraying him inaccurately. Asking for a halt in the admission of the asylum shopping SYRIANS until they can be thoroughly vetted, does not meet the definition of xenophobia. Read Buchanan's SUICIDE OF A SUPER POWER in which he writes that migrants should be accepted on a piecemeal basis, and that in the interim, they should be packed off to Trucial States. Recall that these travelers were not fleeing danger, famine, or lack of medical care. TURKEY, MACEDONIA, whence they come, housed them, and provided for their basic needs. The irony is that security in Hong Kong is air tight.Authorities would never tolerate the lackadaisical, languid approach to the undocumented that is standard practice under Obama. Hong Kong is a de facto police state, and you r berating us as racists for wanting a sane, thorough approach to letting Muslims, believers in Sharia law, and infiltrated no doubt by ISIS moles, into the country?Unfair.Write us a comparative study of immigration policies in Hong Kong compared to ours, and inform us of ur conclusions.
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Hillary is headed for an electoral defeat of absolutely historical proportions! No wonder she isn't laughing......
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Most of the media, the talking heads, and the NYT chastise, as did the President, Americans regarding their feelings of insecurity in relation to Muslims and Islam. You're not going to change any minds when you belittle people who have apprehensions about Muslims and Islam. If you don't address those concerns, you shouldn't be surprised by Mr. Trump's increasing polling numbers, because he expresses a sentiment that is widely shared, whether the aforementioned like it or not.
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This will be quite tricky for Hillary and the Democrat Party, no matter how much they long to corner the Islamic-American vote. Many Americans are very afraid now, and frankly, from what has happened in Paris and San Bernadino, they have every right to be. A sad but regrettable fact is most of the terror we face - 99% of it - is from Muslim terrorists. Regardless of Mr. Trumps unfortunate word's, he does force us to think about what ways can best protect ALL the citizens of the United States, all voters. One way is to ban all travelers or immigrants from Muslim nations and when I look at the law, the constitution and recent court cases, I just don't see where we are prohibited from restricting such travelers based on that criteria.
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People are scared and barring new Muslims from entering the USA sounds protective. That is the appeal. This latest attack in CA shattered many people's conceptions of what matters in life. To leave a small child while murdering caring co-workers turns our values 180 degrees. And for what? The mother, an equal in this diabolical act, cannot be thought to be lured by a Heaven of female virgins. So, no one gets it, and that accounts for a lot of the panic, its unexpectedness and unpredictability. It boggles the collective mind.
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Mrs. Clinton is making the same mistake our president made - she is getting ahead of the very frightened American people who are in no mood to be tolerant or to make distinctions among Muslims or terrorists. Of course the rhetoric of Trump and some other politicians just stokes the anxiety with their fear-mongering, xenophobic talk.
People's very real fears must be addressed and calmed before they can clearly think about the other issues.
Of course it would be remiss not to remind people to be tolerant right now, but it will mostly fall on deaf ears while the anxiety is so high.
People's very real fears must be addressed and calmed before they can clearly think about the other issues.
Of course it would be remiss not to remind people to be tolerant right now, but it will mostly fall on deaf ears while the anxiety is so high.
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Clinton and Obama seem to say those 14 lives snuffed in California don't matter. Trump is saying let's stop for a minute and figure this out before one more American is killed. Maybe the next death can be avoided.
So why do you wonder why Trump is gaining popularity.
I hold a master's degree and voted for Obama in 2007. I'm a registered Democrat and I like Trump. I'm also black so what other Republican could hope to get a black vote? Trump is not a Republican. Trump is Trump.
So why do you wonder why Trump is gaining popularity.
I hold a master's degree and voted for Obama in 2007. I'm a registered Democrat and I like Trump. I'm also black so what other Republican could hope to get a black vote? Trump is not a Republican. Trump is Trump.
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Disagreeing: people are not frightened, only some people are -- some people always are -- our new media make that group seem to loom large, its not an outstanding or typical American characteristic, denagogues like Palin and Trump prey upon and exploit it.
As a 68 year old, last night I went to work on my 4 to midnight shift at the post office. I have developed a comradery with two fellow employees. One is a 58 year old recently laid off bank manager, the other a 60 year old book keeper.
The 58 year old was laid off without a retirement plan after 40 years on the job. (Owing to mergers) I’m there because in IT field I can no longer work stressful 50+ hour weeks. Likewise no pension with companies I worked for.
Last night the bank manager didn’t make it to work. He was found unconscious, we don’t know if he is alive or dead. The stress of losing a job at that age without retirement no doubt a factor.
There are a collection of us all intelligent hard working people, working well past the time we should be able to retire. We have to work to pay dental bills, car bills and mortgages.
The question is why – in this country which has the benefit of not having a war fought on its shores in a 150 years, that has a massive integrated market, enormous natural resources when countries such as Japan with little of either, can have one person working per family with excellent retirement benefits.
Just maybe it has something to do with massive immigration, offshoring of work, the fecundity of those on welfare and the arrogance of the elites.
I feel closer to the oppressed than the elites, I don’t hate those in need but I have to deal with realities unlike the privileged elite.
The 58 year old was laid off without a retirement plan after 40 years on the job. (Owing to mergers) I’m there because in IT field I can no longer work stressful 50+ hour weeks. Likewise no pension with companies I worked for.
Last night the bank manager didn’t make it to work. He was found unconscious, we don’t know if he is alive or dead. The stress of losing a job at that age without retirement no doubt a factor.
There are a collection of us all intelligent hard working people, working well past the time we should be able to retire. We have to work to pay dental bills, car bills and mortgages.
The question is why – in this country which has the benefit of not having a war fought on its shores in a 150 years, that has a massive integrated market, enormous natural resources when countries such as Japan with little of either, can have one person working per family with excellent retirement benefits.
Just maybe it has something to do with massive immigration, offshoring of work, the fecundity of those on welfare and the arrogance of the elites.
I feel closer to the oppressed than the elites, I don’t hate those in need but I have to deal with realities unlike the privileged elite.
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An early lesson every leader should have--you don't counter emotionalism with opposite emotions. You counter it with facts. Both parties are addicted to appeals to the heart and amygdala, thus demonstrating that we have no fit leaders whatsoever currently running for president.
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poor hillary. im no fan. she probably laughed at obama too
had she voted no on iraq shed already served 2 terms
had she voted no on iraq shed already served 2 terms
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It's still a year to go. Much can happen till November 8, 2016. The Founding Fathers would see Trump as a nightmare. Let him bask in his glory as long as he can. His success may just be a flash in the pan!
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Donald Trump has is not only a carnival barker, buffoon, bully and narcissist, he's a race and religion baiter. He has become a demagogue akin to George C. Wallace and Father Coughlin in this country, let alone well-known political demagogues in other nations
Per David Ignatius writing in The Washington Post, "Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric will live in infamy in American history. He obviously doesn't mind; his narcissistic personality is so extreme that every high-visibility outrage is for him a kind of validation. "
Trump is dooming the Republican/Tea Party - the judgment of history should matter to them. As Ignatius wrote, "Historians will look harshly on those who, for reasons of cowardice or opportunism, kept silent when Trump's tirades put our constitutional values and the safety of Americans at risk -- not to mention the political future of the GOP."
It seems only House Speaker Paul Ryan stood up by saying: "This is not conservatism. What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. Not only are there many Muslims serving in our armed forces dying for this country, there are Muslims serving right here in the House, working every day to uphold and to defend the Constitution."
Do the Republican/Tea Party candidates have the backbone and guts to take on a demagogue? Do we have Profiles in Courage of Profiles in Mush?
Per David Ignatius writing in The Washington Post, "Trump's anti-Muslim rhetoric will live in infamy in American history. He obviously doesn't mind; his narcissistic personality is so extreme that every high-visibility outrage is for him a kind of validation. "
Trump is dooming the Republican/Tea Party - the judgment of history should matter to them. As Ignatius wrote, "Historians will look harshly on those who, for reasons of cowardice or opportunism, kept silent when Trump's tirades put our constitutional values and the safety of Americans at risk -- not to mention the political future of the GOP."
It seems only House Speaker Paul Ryan stood up by saying: "This is not conservatism. What was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for, and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. Not only are there many Muslims serving in our armed forces dying for this country, there are Muslims serving right here in the House, working every day to uphold and to defend the Constitution."
Do the Republican/Tea Party candidates have the backbone and guts to take on a demagogue? Do we have Profiles in Courage of Profiles in Mush?
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"Donald Trump has is not only a carnival barker, buffoon, bully and narcissist, he's a race and religion baiter."
So what if he is? He is the only one looking out for the average American. Everybody else is standing on high podium lecturing American why we need to tolerate more and more things that's not in out interest.
So what if he is? He is the only one looking out for the average American. Everybody else is standing on high podium lecturing American why we need to tolerate more and more things that's not in out interest.
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Please note that the following US statute says “ALL ALIENS OR ANY CLASS OF ALIENS.” ANY means ANY!!!
8 USC Section 1182(f) Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
8 USC Section 1182(f) Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
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“I’m sorry, I can’t help it,” she told ABC News on Sunday, letting out a giggle that made advisers squirm.
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Giggle, huh? The teenager in HRC is still alive and giggling. With easy passing day, she looks more unelectable. FBI may yet come up with an indictment of her for mishandling classified information on her home-based server but she is hoping that Obama's DOJ will do her and Bubba a return favor (return for Bubba's role as 'Splainer-in-chief during BHO's reelection bid) and not proceed with prosecution.
At least some American people may have become sick and tired of all the pandering by Democrats for votes.
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Giggle, huh? The teenager in HRC is still alive and giggling. With easy passing day, she looks more unelectable. FBI may yet come up with an indictment of her for mishandling classified information on her home-based server but she is hoping that Obama's DOJ will do her and Bubba a return favor (return for Bubba's role as 'Splainer-in-chief during BHO's reelection bid) and not proceed with prosecution.
At least some American people may have become sick and tired of all the pandering by Democrats for votes.
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"I never throw anything away...I'm two steps away from a hoarder." HRC
I'm going to save that cackle for the bank line and have a friend call me a couple of times. One reason why a citizen uses a cell phone in an election year.
I'm going to save that cackle for the bank line and have a friend call me a couple of times. One reason why a citizen uses a cell phone in an election year.
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Hillary must have and express a truthful intention for US national security with substance. She must be fierce, smart and clear enough to resonate above the terrible biased Trump narrative of hate and fear mongering. In addition she better be clear about protecting social security for baby boomers in drastic need and the ALL Republican candidates intent to diminish social security that is drowned out by the Trump rants and ramblings, having no substance other than the huge fear Americans all have and the feeling that no mall is safe. She should get in front of the unregulated drone industry and security issue but won't. Many fear a bomb could be delivered anywhere via a drone. "right to bear drones" is not true!
I say encourage him. At this point you can't ignore him in hopes he'll go away. That should have been done from the get go, but we've got a campaign cycle that starts way too early, and a media industry that loves sensation over substance. The cat is now out of the bag, large swaths of the American public are angry and frustrated (duh) and respond well to vitriol and simplistic notions to resolve nuanced and complicated issues. Fear of change and the other, is turned on a dime to hate and uncalled for defensive mind states. We can thank 24 hour, hyper sensationalized "news" for this, perceptions of the world and reality are deeply manipulated towards bias. But maybe if we encourage him to get even "bigger and better" he'll do something really incredible to please his crowds and keep them roaring, like set his hair on fire, or host a duel on TV (you know with those "well regulated" guns he supports). This guy is so removed from reality, yet claims he's a realist ... just keeping egging his megalomaniac ego on until the circus tent collapses or the raving crowds stampede him. But sadly, the rest of us will have to live with the ashes of this incredibly tragic spectacle.
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Mrs. Clinton is making the same mistake our president made recently - she is getting ahead of the American people - people who are very frightened and fear for their safety. Those fears need to be addressed before the public can even consider anything else. Making a distinction between terrorists -like the Planned Parenthood killer, Sandy Hook murderer or the radicalized Islamic couple who killed so many last week - and law abiding Muslims is not on their radar right now. Of course Trump and some other politicians are playing right into that with more hateful fear-mongering.
Of course the president and Mrs. Clinton must also call for tolerance and remind the nation not to blame Muslims or refugees for the attacks, but before
Of course the president and Mrs. Clinton must also call for tolerance and remind the nation not to blame Muslims or refugees for the attacks, but before
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As a 29-year-old, the first election in which I could vote (and the first one I paid very close attention to) was 2008. I am an independent who nearly always votes Democrat (or liberal third party), so Obama excited me a lot.
Anyway, Sarah Palin offended me during that election. Her vilification of New York (my hometown) as not part of real America offended me. Had New Yorkers not died in 9/11? What did our suffering mean to her? However, I wasn't scared.
In 2012, Mitt Romney's tone-deaf rhetoric about the 99% offended me. He spoke in a callous manner that convinced me he wouldn't help everyday Americans. But again, I wasn't scared.
This election is the first one in which I am *scared.* The messages conveyed by not only Trump, but other Republicans as well (Bush, Cruz, Rubio, and even Kasich, have proposed faith-based immigration politics and/or federal agencies) are terrifying. The fact that Trump's campaign has invigorated the white supremacist movement is terrifying.
I fear that this election cycle has awoken a very dark--sometimes violent--undercurrent of the American psyche (and, to be fair, the psyche of many countries--we are not unique offenders) that is a Pandora's Box.
Our govt will not become a dictatorship. However, while civil rights may be protected on the books, laws don't matter if scared people become vigilantes. In a country with millions of guns and lots of scared people, I truly fear for the future of individual freedom and peace in this country.
Anyway, Sarah Palin offended me during that election. Her vilification of New York (my hometown) as not part of real America offended me. Had New Yorkers not died in 9/11? What did our suffering mean to her? However, I wasn't scared.
In 2012, Mitt Romney's tone-deaf rhetoric about the 99% offended me. He spoke in a callous manner that convinced me he wouldn't help everyday Americans. But again, I wasn't scared.
This election is the first one in which I am *scared.* The messages conveyed by not only Trump, but other Republicans as well (Bush, Cruz, Rubio, and even Kasich, have proposed faith-based immigration politics and/or federal agencies) are terrifying. The fact that Trump's campaign has invigorated the white supremacist movement is terrifying.
I fear that this election cycle has awoken a very dark--sometimes violent--undercurrent of the American psyche (and, to be fair, the psyche of many countries--we are not unique offenders) that is a Pandora's Box.
Our govt will not become a dictatorship. However, while civil rights may be protected on the books, laws don't matter if scared people become vigilantes. In a country with millions of guns and lots of scared people, I truly fear for the future of individual freedom and peace in this country.
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As long as Hillary plays the Obama game to get elected, she has no chance. Being passive on major issues with words that sound good and mean nothing is her worst move. Of course, if she was not being coached by the special interest that fund her campaign she could actually take a stand on an issue or two herself. But, you cannot have a backbone if you are a puppet for the special interest. This is what makes this election so different. For once in many years, America has someone running for President that does not have to cater to the funding sources, only to themselves and the American voter. It has nothing to do with Trump's stand or his opinion, it has to do with WHAT HE CAN SAY FREELY AND WHAT HILLARY CANNOT SAY WITHOUT DISSING HER SPECIAL INTEREST CAMPAIGN FUNDING.
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Politically Correct? So for the past 14 years the Liberals and the liberal based media have
been screaming about the unjust and illegal wars in the Middle East our
country and other Western nations have been engaged in are now calling
Trump's moronic unrealistic rhetoric, irresponsible and inflammatory?
Claiming that it will only lead to more disenfranchised youths flocking
to ISIS's cause. Clinton says, "He’s giving them a great propaganda tool, a way to recruit more folks from Europe and the United States.” Really? What have the Liberals been doing for the past 14 years?
been screaming about the unjust and illegal wars in the Middle East our
country and other Western nations have been engaged in are now calling
Trump's moronic unrealistic rhetoric, irresponsible and inflammatory?
Claiming that it will only lead to more disenfranchised youths flocking
to ISIS's cause. Clinton says, "He’s giving them a great propaganda tool, a way to recruit more folks from Europe and the United States.” Really? What have the Liberals been doing for the past 14 years?
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We've been telling them that not all Americans want to kill them. And oh by the way, most of us were against W.'s fraudulent wars in the first place (too bad HRC was not one of them).
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@Jeff, I was never for going to war in Afghanistan or Iraq. Invading Iraq and removing Saddam was a mistake. As for "fraudulent," you can call it that and you're entitled to your opinion, I've read about as much as there is to read on the war and I'll say it was stupidity at its worst. And what we tell them makes no difference what so ever when you're dealing with the radical factions, because to them it's a distorted archaic view of their religion nothing more.
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@Jeff: And that seems to be working really well.
Trump is not about "fear". Trump is about the distrust the general public has for establishment politicians.
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The general public does not have distrust for establishment politicians. A very small percent of the general public does.
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He has spent almost nothing on TV ads.. the media is doing his advertising for free. Every candidate in both parties is,talking Trump 24/7. And we call him dumb. He knows exactly which buttons to push to get attention and support. We're all just playing his game and he is playing us brilliantly.
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It's really about laziness.
Laziness to actually doing something with their lives. It's so easy to blame Obama and have Trump solve everything for you.
Laziness. Not stupidity, or bigotry. It's laziness.
Laziness to actually doing something with their lives. It's so easy to blame Obama and have Trump solve everything for you.
Laziness. Not stupidity, or bigotry. It's laziness.
Trump is providing a long over due service to his country. He is giving the establishment netminders and the neo-liberal media their comeuppance on a grand scale. They are no longer the arbiters of PC morality and all things proper. They are simply a liberal conduit for liberal fascism, which strives to publicly humiliate and penalize anyone who disagrees with them. Trump is not a bigot, he is a practitioner of the first order.
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Donald Trump is a phenomenon birthed by the deliberate spurning of voter wishes for all too long by corrupt politicians on both sides of the aisle. The dominant issues include the epochal 9/11 event about which a growing plurality do not believe the official 9/11 Commission, the government-encouraged Fed-enabled housing boom that triggered the gravest economic crisis since the Depression, since then the poorest economic recovery in our nation’s history, jobs lost to trade agreements, deepening anger of a silent growing majority at the political correctness that’s swept the land, recognition that the mainstream media is a cesspool of deception and propaganda, Obamacare that was rammed down the throats of 58% of Americans who were flat against it, wars which America should never have engaged in including sowing chaos in Bosnia, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, the Ukraine, Yemen, and now Syria, and the remarkable influx of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border. Trump speaks directly to most of these issues. He lets the chips fall where they may. It appears he is just getting started. Where is the surprise, then? Only in partisan mindsets first narrowed and then blinded to the expanse of all that is happening to this once proud nation.
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I'm shocked that Trump gets ANY support after his bigoted comments that are now attracting the enthusiastic endorsement of the Nazi Party and the KKK.
This is shameful.
It's shameful that GOP leaders aren't more self-aware. They've been playing with racism for decades.
What did they expect?
This is shameful.
It's shameful that GOP leaders aren't more self-aware. They've been playing with racism for decades.
What did they expect?
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Oh you don't need to worry about that, the KKK were democrats. As a matter of fact they infiltrated and took control of the Democratic Party so long ago, democrat voters don't even realize they are at this very moment being manipulated by the very same group.
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Trump is the only politician who dares adress some real problems: illegal immigration which penalize immigrants who play by the rules, and the fear (well founded) of islamist terrorism and also their way of life that treats women as inferiors. The concert of indignation toward him only shows how political correctness has replace a true reflection from a free spirit.
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Trump is NOT a politician.... he is running for President but he is not a politician. He also is not speaking truth. He is a liar of the highest level
One of these pieces that invites a Feel Good commentary from the left. And that's about the extent of their indolence.
Wake up, Dems: Trump is nigh!
Wake up, Dems: Trump is nigh!
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Anyone who is fearful of being victimized by a Muslim jihadist needs to do two things:
1. Look up and read about what 'terrorism' means and how it is designed to work. Gain some appreciation of what "the enemy" is trying to do.
2. Do some math. IF you had BEEN IN PARIS on the night of the attacks, the odds that you would be one of the victims would have been about one in 17,000. IF you had been in San Bernadino on the day of the shootings,
the odds would have been similar; about one in 15,000.
The random nature of the attacks and the overwhelming media coverage that follows are unnerving. But if you take elevators, ride in cars, buses, planes, or trains, eat sushi, ride the Ferris wheel, etc. etc., you're already a pro at thumbing your nose at terror. Just add one more bogeyman to the list.
1. Look up and read about what 'terrorism' means and how it is designed to work. Gain some appreciation of what "the enemy" is trying to do.
2. Do some math. IF you had BEEN IN PARIS on the night of the attacks, the odds that you would be one of the victims would have been about one in 17,000. IF you had been in San Bernadino on the day of the shootings,
the odds would have been similar; about one in 15,000.
The random nature of the attacks and the overwhelming media coverage that follows are unnerving. But if you take elevators, ride in cars, buses, planes, or trains, eat sushi, ride the Ferris wheel, etc. etc., you're already a pro at thumbing your nose at terror. Just add one more bogeyman to the list.
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What a bunch of armchair quarterbacking, both in the article and in the comments. I'm sick and tired of the sports handicapping that masquerades as political reporting.
The most amazing thing I've read about all day was the outpouring of welcome that our neighbors to the north gave Syrian refugees, who left the airport with handshakes, warm clothes, toys, and Canadian permanent resident status. Maybe, just maybe, the best thing we could do for ourselves is quit allowing ourselves to be "the American people" as defined by self-interested punditry. I sure don't feel at home at that party and don't mind saying so.
The most amazing thing I've read about all day was the outpouring of welcome that our neighbors to the north gave Syrian refugees, who left the airport with handshakes, warm clothes, toys, and Canadian permanent resident status. Maybe, just maybe, the best thing we could do for ourselves is quit allowing ourselves to be "the American people" as defined by self-interested punditry. I sure don't feel at home at that party and don't mind saying so.
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The outpouring of welcome was organized by the government. The polls in Canada actually show that the electorate as a whole is not too happy with a large influx of Muslim refugees and tried to get Trudeau to delay it. Yet again, we see what the media choose we shall see, and ordinary voices in opposition are carefully erased.
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elizabeth, "the electorate as a whole" is pretty much the same reference as "the American people" a.k.a. "ordinary voices" a.k.a. pretty much whatever you want it to be.
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The problem is that Hillary has no more of a plan to be proactive against domestic terrorism by radical muslims than Obama. She has no plan, nor any other intentions of doing anything other than is what is already failing today. Hillary is just beating around the bush with words that sound positive, but have no tone of aggressiveness. If she continues with being this a politically correct professional softy politician that is being coached by her husband to get elected, she has no chance of being close to beating out Trump.
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Unfortunately, the US will not be able to stop the Wahabi cult terrorists like ISIS, Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Al Shams, etc. as long as the White House, Hillary Clinton, Trump, GOP candidates, and the lawmakers of both parties refuse to condemn the our so-called 'allies' who are supporting, funding, training, and arming the Wahabi cult terrorists because our 'allies' give us cheap oil and other natural resources, and pour billions of dollars into the US to influence our domestic and foreign policies. In this context, the recent House bill H.R. 158 regarding Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 which was passed 407-19 in the House allows people from the countries which support the terrorists to come and go freely while punishing the secular decent patriotic highly educated professional Iranian Americans who have had nothing whatsoever to do with the terrorists of those nations. This indicates the influential power of those nations which have supported and/or created the above-mentioned terrorists over the American politicians from both parties with the exception of Bernie Sanders who is honest and genuine.
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"secular decent patriotic highly educated professional Iranian Americans who have had nothing whatsoever to do with the terrorists of those nations. "
Maybe, Iran could return our 4 American citizens
( and the 5th American's body, so he could be buried in the US),
"Secular" Iran is holding an American Christian whose only crime is holding a Christian prayer service.
Maybe, Iran could return our 4 American citizens
( and the 5th American's body, so he could be buried in the US),
"Secular" Iran is holding an American Christian whose only crime is holding a Christian prayer service.
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Does this mean the Clinton Foundation will return the $100,000 donation it received from Donald Trump?
But of course that would be principled. So we cannot expect the Democrats' front runner to recommend a refund.
But of course that would be principled. So we cannot expect the Democrats' front runner to recommend a refund.
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If the Clintons mean what they say, then they should.
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The people who actually get off the couch and vote are passionate and vote based on emotion. Trump's a master marketer and pushes all the right emotional buttons. He can win the nomination and he'll do to Hillary what he's been doing to the other Republican hopefuls. That is, make statements that are either partially untrue or totally untrue. He'll Benghazi her to death and beat her because neither Hillary nor anybody else running knows what to do with this guy. He's ahead of the curve on all of them in his ability to tap into what many Americans actually feel deep down inside. The guy knows how to get attention and once he does he capitalizes on it. Americans are scared of what's going on in the world and, now, at home. They think Trump will make them safer and Hillary will not. That's the election right there. Stick a fork in America...we're done !
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I'd vote for Hillary if she goes after Wall Street; otherwise, my vote goes to Trump.
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Seriously Pat, Wall St, the big Hedge funds, Currency speculators, the Saudi Government, the British government, ABC News George Stephanopoulos, NBC News that paid Chelsea Clinton 800K a years to do nothing, the Unions of Government employees, and everyone else who donated to the Clinton Foundation have already paid their dues to be on the Clinton train, and are currently awaiting their payoff.
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Even an article about Hillary is really an article about Trump.
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Please note that the following US statute says “ALL ALIENS OR ANY CLASS OF ALIENS.” ANY means ANY!!!
8 USC Section 1182(f) Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. "
8 USC Section 1182(f) Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. "
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The Black guys I work with here in Florida like Trump, their wives like Trump, the Sarasota rally was a young boisterous crowd, and the idea that every Hispanic citizen already in the country really wants more illegals immigrants from Mexico and S. America simply because they are also Hispanic is wrong, stupid, and racist as well. If I dare suggest that more Democrats than Republicans are enamored by the TV cult of personality than give Trump that edge as well. Democrats darn well better be worried by a fresh face, new ideas, and a new kind of politician when all they have to offer is Hillary and not one viable second choice in the wings..
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I'm shocked that my sister a die hard dem and Obama fan loves Trump. Not because she follows politics,, but because she spent right years watching the apprentice and seeing him see through people's bull. She thinks he's smart, funny and to the point.
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"“She’s as amazed as everyone else is” by his staying power, said Edward G. Rendell, a former governor of Pennsylvania"
It's astounding that Democrats are so befuddled by Trump's popularity. They just don't understand how he resonates with Americans. They can't debate him on his ideas so they just refer to his anger and hatred. If they had enough sense to understand the situation they would recognize that a lot of people are angry about Democrat ideas such as rule by executive orders, circumvent Congress, ridicule Republicans, insist on admitting refugees that are not vetted, referring to refugees as 'orphans and old women' when 70% of them are young Muslim males, and many other issues to numerous to mention. Democrats just don't recognize that the people are angry and tired of being lied to about almost everything.
It's astounding that Democrats are so befuddled by Trump's popularity. They just don't understand how he resonates with Americans. They can't debate him on his ideas so they just refer to his anger and hatred. If they had enough sense to understand the situation they would recognize that a lot of people are angry about Democrat ideas such as rule by executive orders, circumvent Congress, ridicule Republicans, insist on admitting refugees that are not vetted, referring to refugees as 'orphans and old women' when 70% of them are young Muslim males, and many other issues to numerous to mention. Democrats just don't recognize that the people are angry and tired of being lied to about almost everything.
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You like your doctor you can keep your doctor, the ACA will save your family $2500/year, etc etc. Why anyone believes ANYTHING the democrats say is beyond me.
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Let me ask, Why was it OK for carter to ban and deport muslims but it's not OK for Trump to offer to do the same?? Why is it not OK to ban immigration from radical states until we can figure out how to screen them?? Seems like a pretty sensible thing to do to me.
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What makes you think anyone other than you thought that Carter was a good president? The American people didn't: four years and back to the peanut farm and Billy Beer. I think he ranks with James Buchanan as a lousy president. I too am VN vet--100% disabled--4th Inf Div, Central Highlands. Welcome home. Great place--clean sheets, showers, no monsoons, huh? I don't follow any political party. Our reps are bought--signed, sealed, and delivered--including our fellow VN vet, Trump, who is owned by the Trilateral Commission, which is run by the Rothschilds who take their marching orders from the guy on the grassy knoll...BTW, Carter was a jerk.
It's important to take every political opponent seriously, even if they seem ridiculous. It's also important to take what they are feeding on seriously. That is, not to dismiss the fears, anxieties and resentments Trump is exploiting, but to address them with courage, wisdom and directness. Not to dismiss or minimalize them -- esp in time of very real and understandable terror-stoked insecurity -- but also not to let the terms be dictated by the loudest or more outrageous voices.
Maybe this was Trump's master plan along. To break the GOP in half. The party elders thought the Church of Trump would be a good side show at first to fire up the base and draw the party faithful into its ranks. They at first thought they were playing Trump for a fool instead got played themselves. Instead of a statesman they got a showman who is a tireless self-promoter. Then a dangerous thing happened on the way to the party convention. Instead of a sideshow he became the main draw or even the headliner. The acolytes of Trump have turned the GOP inside out. The party elders were hoping for a coronation of Bush or even a Rubio. Trump is like a house guest who overstayed his welcome and the GOP party bosses are looking for a way to kick him out of the house. If they succeed they will do the one thing that Democrats been trying to do years to the GOP which is to fracture the GOP. Ironically enough Trump may be the final nail in the GOP's coffin.
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Or maybe the establishment that is on the take well finally admit they are democrats instead of lying about who they are and giving us nothing but failure theater.
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Here we go some more and again with the breathless reporting, no I mean NYTs story telling, no I mean boxing match ring announcer drama. And in this corner... Will the paper of record grow up any time soon and resume taking its obligation to disseminate hard information seriously? Or will it continue to provide a soapbox for its gang of unproven journalist to blog. Providing us ignorant paying subscribers with their myopic take on reality?
The arrogance, ignorance and mind boggling short sightedness of Times political reportage is stunning in its nose and lips pressed against the glass cannot penetrate the real world so are forced on presenting their comic book take on events.
Why the news media insist on lowering itself down to the bikini mud wrestling level of the most embarrassing candidates making our political discourse even grosser than it has to be can only create one response in readers, why?
Is it because like the gawker at a grizzly traffic accident you can't take your eyes away from the carnage? Is the Times only a up market police blotter tracking the blood and guts in our politics? Yep.
What it is is that the press is unable to resist low hanging fruit and will always go with blood and guts over substance. It is so much easier.
The arrogance, ignorance and mind boggling short sightedness of Times political reportage is stunning in its nose and lips pressed against the glass cannot penetrate the real world so are forced on presenting their comic book take on events.
Why the news media insist on lowering itself down to the bikini mud wrestling level of the most embarrassing candidates making our political discourse even grosser than it has to be can only create one response in readers, why?
Is it because like the gawker at a grizzly traffic accident you can't take your eyes away from the carnage? Is the Times only a up market police blotter tracking the blood and guts in our politics? Yep.
What it is is that the press is unable to resist low hanging fruit and will always go with blood and guts over substance. It is so much easier.
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In response to CK, Rye:
Sorry, even though they are good family people and excellent employees, they are supporting a person who spews hate and fear mongering against innocent decent hardworking patriotic Americans because of their religion. Trump's false accusations and demonizing of innocent Muslim Americans in order to incite his supporters has provoked some of his supporters to attack Muslims, Muslim mosques and institutions for no reason other than hate. Just last month in New York City, an innocent teenage Muslim school girl was beaten by three boys and her headscarf was torn because she wore a headscarf or 'hijab'. This is exactly what Hitler and the Nazis did against the innocent German Jews. They first spread fear, then they demonized them, and finally, they killed innocent people in cold blood without remorse.
No, we cannot standby and watch our fellow innocent hard working patriotic Muslim Americans insulted, demonized, beaten, and if nothing is done to stop it, killed because of a racist Nazi Trump and his supporters. Trump and his supporters are dangerous and must be stopped before it is too late to avoid unnecessary innocent American Muslim blood spilled on the streets of America and innocent American blood spilled all over the world in retaliation.
Sorry, even though they are good family people and excellent employees, they are supporting a person who spews hate and fear mongering against innocent decent hardworking patriotic Americans because of their religion. Trump's false accusations and demonizing of innocent Muslim Americans in order to incite his supporters has provoked some of his supporters to attack Muslims, Muslim mosques and institutions for no reason other than hate. Just last month in New York City, an innocent teenage Muslim school girl was beaten by three boys and her headscarf was torn because she wore a headscarf or 'hijab'. This is exactly what Hitler and the Nazis did against the innocent German Jews. They first spread fear, then they demonized them, and finally, they killed innocent people in cold blood without remorse.
No, we cannot standby and watch our fellow innocent hard working patriotic Muslim Americans insulted, demonized, beaten, and if nothing is done to stop it, killed because of a racist Nazi Trump and his supporters. Trump and his supporters are dangerous and must be stopped before it is too late to avoid unnecessary innocent American Muslim blood spilled on the streets of America and innocent American blood spilled all over the world in retaliation.
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Why don't we just vote now and get all this over with. Most people, I'm sure, have already made up their minds as to whom they are going to vote for. This entire campaign is turning into a badly run three ring circus. And, could someone wipe that condescending smirk off Trump's face?
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The President and Hillary say more about gun control and the rights of Muslims after every event. I would argue if you do not have the right to defend yourself or loved ones from an active shooter or terrorists, then none of your other rights mean a thing. Dead people cannot enjoy their rights. If your only recourse when you are being attacked by an active shooter is to call 911 and then hope that the police actually come before everyone is slaughtered, including yourself, then you are no different from the Jews in the concentration camp waiting to go get a “shower” during WWII.
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If Donald Trump were a Democrat there would be no end to the praise and adoration he would be receiving from the liberal media.
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Look at how the media loved Robert Byrd of KKK fame, George Wallace and all the other Southern Democrats.
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Trump is stoking the fear, a tried and true Republican election ploy. Trump is telling you Who To Hate; Who To Blame. So far Trump's Hate list reads: Black President, Spanish Speaking people, Poor Americans, Muslims, and compassionate Americans. Make this guy Commander-In-Chief if you want another war, because at some future point just telling you who to hate won't be enough.
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Say what you want Hillary, at least Trump isn't under investigation by the FBI for potential criminal activities.
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Trump is Toast!!!
This has legs: Someone named Ricky Martin endorsed Hillary on Twitter this week!
There is simply no way Trump or the Republicans can recover from this mortal blow. Sanders is Toast too so everyone should just rally around Hillary whether you like her or not. Whether she's awake, or not.
This has legs: Someone named Ricky Martin endorsed Hillary on Twitter this week!
There is simply no way Trump or the Republicans can recover from this mortal blow. Sanders is Toast too so everyone should just rally around Hillary whether you like her or not. Whether she's awake, or not.
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We are refusing to help people that are trying to escape from the horrors of the islamic state because we are afraid of being victims of random and still quite rare acts of terror. The likelihood of dying in a car accident is thousands of times greater than to be killed in a rampage like San Bernardino or even something as bad as 9/11. But this fear is sufficient for Trump and his followers to reject helping thousands of fellow human beings. I find it disgustingly paradoxical that fear and cowardice of this scale can be misrepresented as toughness and strength. So much for the home of the brave.
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"dying in a car accident"
But a car accident is just that ... an accident, not planned.
Sorry, but I don't enjoy the thought that my fellow American citizen
( Mr. Farook) planned since 2012 how to commit mass murder in the name of Islam and his wife sailed in here to build the pipe bombs.
( now we found out the State department lied about her interview and she put in a phony address, boy they sure vetted her).
But a car accident is just that ... an accident, not planned.
Sorry, but I don't enjoy the thought that my fellow American citizen
( Mr. Farook) planned since 2012 how to commit mass murder in the name of Islam and his wife sailed in here to build the pipe bombs.
( now we found out the State department lied about her interview and she put in a phony address, boy they sure vetted her).
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Refugees share overwhelmingly your concerns and have your same enemies. They are precisely escaping from mass murder in the name of Islam. Neither Mr. Farook nor his wife came to the US as refugees. And neither would have been affected by Trump's demagogic measures. Being more careful admitting potential threats is exceedingly important. Doing it with a blindfold, without distinguishing friends from real foes is just a diversion from what is sorely needed.
Donald represents the silent majority who are frustrated with the broken promises and the bold-face lies sputtered from the mouths of our politicians without any recourse. In fact, the mainstream media and political establishment continues to defend these people at any cost as they know the majority of Americans take these messages as undeniable truths, and buy into the propaganda that has infected the media.
To many Donald represents the polar opposite. He says what he thinks, and despite harsh criticism, doesn't flip-flop. I mean let's face it, he gets into it with Meagan Kelly in a national televised debate on FOX, the suposed megaphone of conservative Americans. The fact remains he is funding his own campaign and is beholden to no one, and disrupts the establishment on both sides of the isle.
The naysayers have been calling for his demise for months, and it hasn't happened. Many people say he will never stand a chance in a general election, & I think it's fair to say that is yet to be seen.
To many Donald represents the polar opposite. He says what he thinks, and despite harsh criticism, doesn't flip-flop. I mean let's face it, he gets into it with Meagan Kelly in a national televised debate on FOX, the suposed megaphone of conservative Americans. The fact remains he is funding his own campaign and is beholden to no one, and disrupts the establishment on both sides of the isle.
The naysayers have been calling for his demise for months, and it hasn't happened. Many people say he will never stand a chance in a general election, & I think it's fair to say that is yet to be seen.
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Donald Trump doesn't represent a silent majority. He doesn't even represent the majority of the Republican Party based on the polls he loves so much. He's never been much higher than 35% since his campaign started.
Trump—and the Trump phenomenon—is fascinating. Any other candidate offers a policy proposal and the reaction is: yeah, right; politicians will say anything to get elected; being a candidate and being President are very different; it’ll never get through Congress or the courts; no magic wand; checks and balances. But Donald Trump says it, and it’s a done deal.
He writes the script, and everyone plays their role, which he achieves by not even trying to smooth out his rough edges, so that he can get under the skin of his detractors. He says the elites are the real buffoons, with their own agenda, who despise ordinary Americans. Sure enough, the elites show up to demonstrate that they’re buffoons, with their own agenda, who despise ordinary Americans. He says other countries are kicking America around in terms of trade and immigration, and sure enough, world leaders rush to lecture Americans on trade and immigration.→
He writes the script, and everyone plays their role, which he achieves by not even trying to smooth out his rough edges, so that he can get under the skin of his detractors. He says the elites are the real buffoons, with their own agenda, who despise ordinary Americans. Sure enough, the elites show up to demonstrate that they’re buffoons, with their own agenda, who despise ordinary Americans. He says other countries are kicking America around in terms of trade and immigration, and sure enough, world leaders rush to lecture Americans on trade and immigration.→
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Due to the Democrats intolerance toward Gun Owners and the 2nd Amendment in General I will not be voting Democrat ever again. 3rd Party, maybe next cycle. But this time around I will support any candidate that opposes a Democrat. The constant attacks on law abiding citizens need to end.
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The more the "mainstream media" and "mainstream politicians" attack Trump, the worse they look. There is pretty to criticize about Trump...by not from sources considerably worse than he is. Right message, wrong messenger...and it will come back to bite you in a general election.
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So we would rather vote for a Socialist or a die hard Liberal with no accomplishments to speak of. There are claims that Trump has no experience and yet we voted for a man who had no Government experience whatsoever. An ineffectual leader who couldn't lead a pack of suicidal lemmings off a cliff. Abysmal Foreign policy, (Who are his advisers again?)
An Economy that is on autopilot. I guess it will heal itself but he will take credit for all the good and blame someone else if it's bad.
A President who inserts himself into situations before the rule of law has taken it's course. Shameful and embarrassing.
let's not forget the ATF running guns into Mexico to capture drug cartel members and whatever other questionable reasons. Eric Holder being held in Contempt of court and Obama invoking Executive privilege for the first time which he has abused throughout the remainder of his Presidency. He should have been impeached already.
Benghazi which we will never know the real truth and where the President was during the Embassy siege.
"Socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples money". Still haven't seen any country where socialism works. Cubans fleeing their country like a sinking ship.
I quiver with anticipation on seeing this Presidential pardon list which most assuredly Hillary Clinton will be #1 if not #2.
Never have I heard this President express his love for this country, nor any fakeocrat. They love government and controlling the decisions of the masses.
An Economy that is on autopilot. I guess it will heal itself but he will take credit for all the good and blame someone else if it's bad.
A President who inserts himself into situations before the rule of law has taken it's course. Shameful and embarrassing.
let's not forget the ATF running guns into Mexico to capture drug cartel members and whatever other questionable reasons. Eric Holder being held in Contempt of court and Obama invoking Executive privilege for the first time which he has abused throughout the remainder of his Presidency. He should have been impeached already.
Benghazi which we will never know the real truth and where the President was during the Embassy siege.
"Socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples money". Still haven't seen any country where socialism works. Cubans fleeing their country like a sinking ship.
I quiver with anticipation on seeing this Presidential pardon list which most assuredly Hillary Clinton will be #1 if not #2.
Never have I heard this President express his love for this country, nor any fakeocrat. They love government and controlling the decisions of the masses.
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Think about a Trump presidency. By being part of the Very Wealthy segment of the population, he is solidly part of our problem. He is in no way interested in helping the citizens of this country to have a better life, no; he just wants to be in the spotlight all the time and to be seen by the world as occupying a position of power. What do you think he would do when asked to sign legislation that would increase taxes for people in his tax bracket? He is a shameless self-promoter who will use any means to get what he wants. What he wants is what any megalomaniac wants: to be in control. With the congress we have now, it would be a disaster of epic proportion for the rest of us.
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Both are equally unpalatable, but at least the Donald made his millions putting up buildings, whereas the Clintons made $ 139 millions in seven years selling nothing but access to political power.
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For the democrats, who have now had the presidency for going on 8 years - to laugh it off is very condescending. The fact that Trump has gotten any traction is more of reflection of how little democrats have actually done (remember "Change"?) than Trump's ridiculous campaign. The people are tired of the same old "say-a-lot-do-nothing" and its being shown through support for a cartoon.
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Shame on us for laughing after the hateful speech he made when he announced that he was running for president. Shame on the media for not denouncing him for what he stood up for. And, above all, shame on him.
Mercifully no one is talking about the "clown car" anymore. It was a very big mistake to think that words don't matter. They do, particularly when they are coming from a rich and powerful man.
Mercifully no one is talking about the "clown car" anymore. It was a very big mistake to think that words don't matter. They do, particularly when they are coming from a rich and powerful man.
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Cut off the head of the Trump Snake, and you still have a body of squirming sentiments of discontent that will spawn it's way into our politics at all levels of elected goverment. All the narratives will need to change. The seemingly Air Force high-flying Goverment Flying Machine over the middle land has now snakes on-board. Inept Veterans Administration - IRS - Homeland Security - NSA - the whole organizational chart, plead the fifth executives, treasure and life lost to bungling international meddling, drive over beltways over inner city third world - worlds, children in hunger, local and country wide deficits, dwindling hope for the young and destitution for old age. Now, at ground level many look into media sky, the first class-class, on TV, mobile devices, amazed in production level "Its a Wonderful Life", "Good Morning America" right next door, the next election away, peddle hope, if only I could get a boarding pass. Trump's snake body is troubled, angry, about who's flying that plane and who's on board send who's maintaining our American Flying Machine.
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Do you want to really know why I, and various other people, are supporting Trump? Because we're tired and sick of it. We're tired and sick of both sides pointing fingers at each other. We're tired and sick of politicians making empty promises, only to be bought off by lobbyists and corporations. If both Trump and Clinton get nominated, I will be voting for Trump. Hillary Clinton, if you can winnow through the leftist propaganda, is an obvious corporate shill. Trump on the other hand is beholden to no one, and can apply his business savviness towards making this country great again by resolving the immigration crisis, taxing the rich, ridding the world of terrorists, and making business deals that actually benefit American workers (unlike Obama, who supported the TPP). His tactics may be crude and his language may be foul, be he's the only hope this country has. And this is coming from a non-white minority.
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Well put.
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did he specifically point out how he was going to do all this ?
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Donald Trump has never been a laughing matter, and people sub estimated him. All he proposed was a temporary ban on Muslim immigration until IRS figures out how to deal with the treat that created the national tragedies at San Bernardino, Boston marathon and 9/11. Sounds reasonable.
Of course Hillary, with a top aide like the Muslim Huma Abedini who had worked for a Middle East lobby firm and for the Clinton Foundation and , while also taking salary from Hillary's State Department, is less credible than Trump in dealing with the current Muslim threat.
One may wonder, if Huma was paid for a 40+ work week at the State Department what was she doing for her salary for the Middle East lobby firm and when? Traffic of influence, of course.
I urge the NYT to take the blinders off and instead of running editorial after editorial to destroy Trump, who is a PATRIOT and NOT CORRUPT, to run an investigation into what Huma did for the Middle East lobby firm while she was on the payroll of Hillary's State Dept and Foundation? (Talk about multi tasking).
Of course Hillary, with a top aide like the Muslim Huma Abedini who had worked for a Middle East lobby firm and for the Clinton Foundation and , while also taking salary from Hillary's State Department, is less credible than Trump in dealing with the current Muslim threat.
One may wonder, if Huma was paid for a 40+ work week at the State Department what was she doing for her salary for the Middle East lobby firm and when? Traffic of influence, of course.
I urge the NYT to take the blinders off and instead of running editorial after editorial to destroy Trump, who is a PATRIOT and NOT CORRUPT, to run an investigation into what Huma did for the Middle East lobby firm while she was on the payroll of Hillary's State Dept and Foundation? (Talk about multi tasking).
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When are Clinton supporters going to realize this ME morass is largely a product of her misfeasance while SoS? At this point she could not pass a background investigation for mail carrier. She has all the classic signs of one who takes away more than she brings to the table.
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I equate Trump's current statements with those of McCarthy fanning fears of Communists in the 1950s.
Somehow he has moved from talking like a petulant 13 year old (when he was asked questions that were too hard) to a racist.
If he wants to ban people who may create violence, then he should also include conservative whites, like Timothy McVeigh who bombed Oklahoma City, Irish due to the troubles in Ireland, Cambodians due to Pol Pot, and the list goes on.
Somehow he has moved from talking like a petulant 13 year old (when he was asked questions that were too hard) to a racist.
If he wants to ban people who may create violence, then he should also include conservative whites, like Timothy McVeigh who bombed Oklahoma City, Irish due to the troubles in Ireland, Cambodians due to Pol Pot, and the list goes on.
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Other than the racism, xenophobia, war-mongering, isolationism and complete lack of foreign policy experience that Trump (and let's face it, most of the other Republican presidential candidates) have, we could do a lot worse than having as a Republican nominee, someone who is NOT talking about cutting Social Security, Medicare, Education funding and taxes on the wealthy. We could have any of the other Republican candidates.
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Trump may still sound like a joke, but what would it take to reach the tipping point where mass mentality overwhelms the Republican Party and its leaders are faced with the stark reality of having no choice but to embrace Trump, because that is what the people want? Are we one terrorist attack away from granting Trump the GOP nomination? And if he is nominated, what would have to happen to push him over the top and win the presidency? Does this suggest ISIS and Trump are, ironically, de facto unwitting strategic allies? The answer, it would seem, is yes.
Suddenly, the ISIS threat takes on a whole new dimension.
Suddenly, the ISIS threat takes on a whole new dimension.
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Let me get this straight: if it's just some angry guy in a school in Connecticut and he kills 20 babies, that doesn't alarm us. If it's some guy in a movie theatre in Colorado who kills a dozen people, we're not concerned. But, if the folks who go to an office party and kill 14 people are identified as Muslim, well, then it's a problem. These are all "terrorist" acts, the last one just happened to be perpetrated by followers of Islam. I'm just as scared of a random, non-Muslim shooter, as I am of extremists. However, in either case, you'd be dead. But...there were 350 plus mass shootings in the US this year before that. Those are OK, though, because the shooters weren't Muslim, and these things are just part of life in these United States. Do I have it right?
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Sadly, yes. I'm sure the people shot would agree the bullets felt the same regardless of who pulled the trigger.
I'm more afraid of Trump's followers than ISIS.
I'm more afraid of Trump's followers than ISIS.
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So, let me make sure I get the point being made here - Democrats should get all hysterical now and go after Donald Trump and hope that the Republicans listen and nominate Ted Cruz instead? Let the Republicans launch their own attacks on Trump. They've been doing a great job of it so far. Democrats should concentrate on coming out to vote.
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The ironic thing about Trump is despite his comments about immigration, he has DIRECTLY through his real estate development company created probably tens of thousands of jobs for immigrants. Mexican immigrants are a large part of construction labor force in this county and large part of hotel & casino staff labor, and he has given them tens of thousands of jobs to improve their lives, pay their rent, raise their kids, buy a house, etc... Hillary, Obama, Bernie have created ZERO jobs directly. Obama was a law professor and community organizer, Hillary had a few years in law then rode the coattails of her husband, and Bernie is another career bureaucrat.
I just find that really ironic, Trump puts his foot in his mouth, but when it comes to real ACTION making peoples lives better in the REAL WORLD, he has done FAR MORE. Obama, Hillary, Bernie are just career politicians who talk, talk, talk a good game and did zero in the private sector. Lawyers do not "build" anything or create any jobs, just just sue people and find ways to regulate the people who actually DO things and create the job engine of America.
I just find that really ironic, Trump puts his foot in his mouth, but when it comes to real ACTION making peoples lives better in the REAL WORLD, he has done FAR MORE. Obama, Hillary, Bernie are just career politicians who talk, talk, talk a good game and did zero in the private sector. Lawyers do not "build" anything or create any jobs, just just sue people and find ways to regulate the people who actually DO things and create the job engine of America.
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Sure Donald....sure you created tens of thousands of jobs...all paying a living wage and offering premier health insurance to boot...sure...and all of those casino employees are so much better off now...sure....
Please.
Please.
Americans have a thousand times higher chance of being killed in a good old fashioned mugging by a heroin addict, or dying in a car accident, than they do of being harmed in a terrorist attack.
The fear the candidates talk about is irrational. And, being irrational, it is a very bad motive for actions that may cause more real harm to Americans than the terrorists could ever hope to cause.
Responsible leadership knows when the public needs to respond to danger, and when the danger is being trumped up (sic) in a grab for power - by ISIS or our politicians. We can only hope that fear does not remain the primary issue in the campaign, while the majority of Americans are struggling to make ends meet around the kitchen table.
The fear the candidates talk about is irrational. And, being irrational, it is a very bad motive for actions that may cause more real harm to Americans than the terrorists could ever hope to cause.
Responsible leadership knows when the public needs to respond to danger, and when the danger is being trumped up (sic) in a grab for power - by ISIS or our politicians. We can only hope that fear does not remain the primary issue in the campaign, while the majority of Americans are struggling to make ends meet around the kitchen table.
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And don't forget that crime in the US, particularly violent crime was highest during the Bush administration.
Crime has gone down in 49 states under Obama. The exception, Chris Christie's NJ, where crime is up, and credit ratings are down.
Crime has gone down in 49 states under Obama. The exception, Chris Christie's NJ, where crime is up, and credit ratings are down.
Haven't we just had a recent President in the person of George W Bush, who was both unprepared and unqualified but was a "great guy". How did that turn out for us? When Santayana said that those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it, I think he had a little longer than a decade in mind.
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Democrats are responsible for their mistakes an they are about to be held accountable.
Democrats created the huge positive response to Trump.
They have governed poorly.
Democrats created the huge positive response to Trump.
They have governed poorly.
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Here's a question for all you deep thinkers: Would you rather be shot dead by an AR-15 wielded by a crooked art dealer sex pervert sadist living of the grid in a trailer, or by AK-47 style rifles also bought legally by a Jihadi couple, or, (last choice) or by a single shot AK-47 while having coffee in a cafe in Paris, reportedly smuggled from the US at some point and sold by an arm dealer in the Mid-East? Donald Trump defines his own brand. It's called stupid. About 12% of our nation is that stupid. That's all you need for a blazingly successful television show. That's all he knows or cares to know.
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Hillary will be no match for Trump's stamina and leadership skills...she always looks so sick, sweaty and shaky. She is definitely not looking well, looks more like an alcoholic every day.
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The Democrats will fail if they continue to play identity politics. That is in which all special interest groups get "priority" rights and funding over the needs of the larger middle class, and small business.
If they can't stop talking and pandering to illegal immigrants, bad trade deals that kill American jobs, ignore the veterans problems with getting doctor appointments, getting outraged about the PC treatment of the San Bernadino killers and their cohorts rather than the nation's safety, transgender bathrooms, and Black Lives Matter agitators, they will lose the election.
Donald Trump did introduce and has a reasonable position on these issues. Democrats need to not only not laugh at DT but they need to formulate policies that will make their constituents lives better and safer - and make them convincingly. With Hillary all but anointed as the candidate, I doubt anyone will believe her, even if she changes her policies.
If they can't stop talking and pandering to illegal immigrants, bad trade deals that kill American jobs, ignore the veterans problems with getting doctor appointments, getting outraged about the PC treatment of the San Bernadino killers and their cohorts rather than the nation's safety, transgender bathrooms, and Black Lives Matter agitators, they will lose the election.
Donald Trump did introduce and has a reasonable position on these issues. Democrats need to not only not laugh at DT but they need to formulate policies that will make their constituents lives better and safer - and make them convincingly. With Hillary all but anointed as the candidate, I doubt anyone will believe her, even if she changes her policies.
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It's not just the Trumpster she should be afraid of. It's also his minions. Their numbers are growing and Hillary isn't going to be the only one with something to be afraid of. If Trump get the Republican nom, we'll all have something worry about. Remember, in a sane, rational world none of this would be happening.
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"Bennie Stickley, a 75-year-old in Gilbertville, Iowa, who retired from a John Deere factory, said he was supporting Mrs. Clinton but agrees with Mr. Trump’s proposal to bar Muslims. “I’m for him on that,” he said. “We shouldn’t be letting those people into the country,” he added"
I think it's very likely that Mr. Stickley doesn't know that the second oldest mosque built in America was in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Built by immigrants from Syria and what is now Lebanon. The mosque was built in 1934. It's older than Mr. Stickley and as far as I can tell there have been no incidents of criminal behavior by the people attending the mosque. Cedar Rapids, Iowa is 44.82 miles from Gilbertville, Iowa.
Lack of information allows us to be gulled by the worst hucksters like Trump.
I think it's very likely that Mr. Stickley doesn't know that the second oldest mosque built in America was in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Built by immigrants from Syria and what is now Lebanon. The mosque was built in 1934. It's older than Mr. Stickley and as far as I can tell there have been no incidents of criminal behavior by the people attending the mosque. Cedar Rapids, Iowa is 44.82 miles from Gilbertville, Iowa.
Lack of information allows us to be gulled by the worst hucksters like Trump.
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I think it is more likely that Mr. Stickley is concerned with some information that is more recent, and relevant, than something that happened in 1934, i.e., what happened in San Bernardino two weeks ago.
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Not that facts matter in the hateful hysteria fueled by Trump and others, but here are some cold facts about gun deaths in this country. Since 9/11 there have been 45 deaths from radical Islamic-inspired gun-wielders. Sounds pretty bad, right? Well, during that same time frame there have been about 450,000 deaths from guns in this country, the overwhelming majority from law-abiding non-Islamic-inspired Americans who purchased their guns legally and who used these tools of death for their primary purpose, to kill or maim or intimidate. So yes, Jihadi-motivated gun deaths have accounted for 0.0001% of all gun deaths in this country the past 14 years since 9/11.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled mass hysteria...
We now return you to your regularly scheduled mass hysteria...
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A 3 step plan defeat terrorism that neither Hillary nor Trump have mentioned:
1 Withdraw all US forces from the Near East. 2 Deploy forces to harden north and south US borders as well as coastlines. Hungary did that in 2 weeks at minimal cost. Reduce immigration to a handful of truly needed skilled professionals (like New Zealand and Japan). 3 Let the Muslims turn on each other as they have done for 1400 years. We were only there for the oil anyway; now we no longer need that.
1 Withdraw all US forces from the Near East. 2 Deploy forces to harden north and south US borders as well as coastlines. Hungary did that in 2 weeks at minimal cost. Reduce immigration to a handful of truly needed skilled professionals (like New Zealand and Japan). 3 Let the Muslims turn on each other as they have done for 1400 years. We were only there for the oil anyway; now we no longer need that.
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There should not be a religious litmus test. What is needed is whether a potential newcomer has any radical views now or in the past that may be contrary to our current American way of life. This needs to come out in the immigration process.
We have our share of trouble makers in this country, ...only trying to keep that number in check and not bringing in more.
We have our share of trouble makers in this country, ...only trying to keep that number in check and not bringing in more.
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As imperfect as our union is, we have to ask ourselves, “Would we rather have the problems of [insert the name of almost any other industrialized country]?” While we may love French culture, for example, it’s not surprising that France grows more jihadi terrorists per capita than we do. France, like almost every other major industrialized country has done a relatively poor job of including recent... or even 2nd or 3rd generation... immigrants into the mainstream fabric of the country.
While the US is far from perfect, our striving for inclusion is the reason we grow fewer jihadi terrorists. We’re never going to get that number to zero, but inclusion is working and exclusion has clearly been shown not to work. Why would we want to change now?
While the US is far from perfect, our striving for inclusion is the reason we grow fewer jihadi terrorists. We’re never going to get that number to zero, but inclusion is working and exclusion has clearly been shown not to work. Why would we want to change now?
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Hilary aint that much better than Trump.
She is all about telling people what they want to hear.
She is all about telling people what they want to hear.
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In the unlikely event that Donald Trump receives the Republican nomination, Hillary Clinton should be able to defeat him easily in the general election. She will do so, however, only if she -- the ultimate Washington insider -- can defuse Trump's claim to be the ultimate outsider taking on the Washington establishment for the good of the average American.
Putting aside the neo-Nazis and white supremacists and anti-Muslim racists who find Trump attractive, there will be ordinary Americans supporting him because they are dissatisfied with their lives -- particularly the financial and physical insecurity they feel. Hillary Clinton better be ready to address the worries of these people who are looking for answers and leadership.
Putting aside the neo-Nazis and white supremacists and anti-Muslim racists who find Trump attractive, there will be ordinary Americans supporting him because they are dissatisfied with their lives -- particularly the financial and physical insecurity they feel. Hillary Clinton better be ready to address the worries of these people who are looking for answers and leadership.
The fears and prejudices Trump is tapping into are deep -- arguably even basic to America we often celebrate. The article quotes Iowan Bennie Stickley; with respect to Trumps call to keep want-to-be immigrant Muslims out of the country, Bennie says "...we shouldn't be letting those people into the country."
"Those people" -- this language reflects the mindset of many an American over the years. There's always some population that's not quite "American," be it blacks, Native Americans, the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, GLBTQs.
This is as old as the hills.
"Those people" -- this language reflects the mindset of many an American over the years. There's always some population that's not quite "American," be it blacks, Native Americans, the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, GLBTQs.
This is as old as the hills.
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During the Kennedy/Nixon presidential campaign, former president Harry Truman was interviewed on his front porch in Independence, Missouri, by an national television network. Truman was asked what he thought of Richard Nixon. He replied, "Anyone that votes for Richard Nixon, ought to go straight to hell." I'm sure he would say the same thing about Donald Trump.
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I'm sure lots of Americans said the same thing about Truman. So, the point is . . . ?
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Democrats like FDR and Truman got away with racial and religious demonization, and Hillary may want to try. FDR put Japanese - Americans into internment camps. FDR and Truman turned away Jewish refugees from Europe who were trying to escape the concentration camps and a very anti-Semitic Europe. Trump's proposal is not inconsistent with the Democratic Party precedents, and Hillary is considering whether to adopt the Democratic Party precedents or go in another direction. But just like her vote for the Iraq war and her support for Wall Street, she is trying to figure out what is in her best short term interest rather than allowing herself to be motivated by principle.
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I guess if FDR can do it then its ok for Trump. Each party has its dark moments but it doesn't mean we have to revisit them for 2015. I guess Muslims are the new boogeyman to fire up the base.
I am getting tired of the "American turned away Jews" as a comparison.
Yes, American turned away folks and children that ended up dying in concentration camps. As a nation, we did not know, only our political leaders and the newspapers ( thank you NYT) knew about the genocide.
But, were any of the Jews running around yelling "Mazel Tov" and beheading, bombing or murdering? No.
Yes, American turned away folks and children that ended up dying in concentration camps. As a nation, we did not know, only our political leaders and the newspapers ( thank you NYT) knew about the genocide.
But, were any of the Jews running around yelling "Mazel Tov" and beheading, bombing or murdering? No.
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Tell that to the victims' families in San Bernardino. Even your pal, Jimmy Carter turned away immigrants. I guess it's okay if its a D-head doing it, right?
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Here's an aside that may be off-topic but compelling.
Donald J. Trump, before running for President, purchased one of the most revered landmark buildings here in Washington DC. The Old Post Office is being transformed into Trump Tower--Washington DC. It will be the tallest building allowed by law (nothing in the area can tower over the Washington Monument) and Trump's Washington DC luxury destination is a 12 min walk from the White House.
It is absolutely incredible.
I can already see world leaders and dignitaries staying at the Trump resort here in Washington, and the celebration when Trump wins in November.
It's exciting.
Donald J. Trump, before running for President, purchased one of the most revered landmark buildings here in Washington DC. The Old Post Office is being transformed into Trump Tower--Washington DC. It will be the tallest building allowed by law (nothing in the area can tower over the Washington Monument) and Trump's Washington DC luxury destination is a 12 min walk from the White House.
It is absolutely incredible.
I can already see world leaders and dignitaries staying at the Trump resort here in Washington, and the celebration when Trump wins in November.
It's exciting.
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When a man such as yourself with a law degree falls for Trumps lies...then he has done his job well. I guess you prefer a showman than a statesman in the White House.
Mr Trump is a real estate developer, what else does he bring to the table?
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She'll go from blissful laughter, to anger, to a sobbing mess in due time. If I were her, I'd confess her crimes and shack up in prison rather the be called out for what she is on prime time TV. You can't stop what's coming, Hillary...
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Trump is offering relief from illegal immigrants, Free Trade, and potential terrorists. What is Hillary offering, besides more of the same?
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The fact of the matter is, Donald Trump is saying publicly, (granted, in a bombastic and not so eloquent fashion) what a huge percentage of the American people are thinking. With political correctness, common sense goes out the window. He knows that, we know that, hence he has tapped into a nerve of the American public that no politicians dare to even consider. With that said, I do not believe he will be the next U.S. president and I would certainly never vote for him, but I do enjoy how he stirs the pot and gives career politicians pause to rethink their complacent status quo.
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Trump tends to throw one of his controversial or non-feasible ideas out to public every 48-72 hours to gin up a debate, locking every other candidate out of the political conversation. This is one of his strategies to win - say things his followers want to hear that are often delusional, unconstitutional fantasies to stay in the spotlight, thus making his opponents inconsequential and casting himself as the presumptive nominee. I suggest, in the interest of democracy and the preservation of balanced journalism, the NYT and others grow a conscious and begin covering other campaigns.
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I wish the press could place a ban on publishing anything Trump because all this coverage only continues to fuel the fires of hate and prejudice, fear and paranoia. If he is elected president (God forbid) not only will he alienate our allies, he will divide this great county and set it back more than 250 years. You can forget about gun control, abortion rights, taxes and terrorists, because this arrogant, disgusting, billionaire is out of control and willing to propel the entire world into a war where nobody wins. He's an embarrassment and a disgrace to everything America stands for. The millennials and the hard-working middle class (I’m one whose had to work several jobs to support my family) should take a long, hard look at this narcissist madman whose election is based on repulsive sound bites and self-important banter.
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"I wish the press could place a ban on publishing anything Trump"...so move to China, they have wildly popular State run media.
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Hillary is increasingly seen as a liberal eliteist who supported both NAFTA and TPP (until the latter was obviously to her disadvantage). Americans, especially the working class, are tired of platitudes from her ivory tower. The old adage of "that's not who we are" rings hollow. Do we have to keep on being the world's doormat? Trump indeed is no laughing matter.
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Say what? Today's NYT says Democrats now worried that Trump may be the GOP presidential candidate? Karl Rove's op-ed in yesterday's WSJ says the exact opposite: Republicans nominate Trump, and democrats, even Hilary, bound to win! Lesson here? The commentariat needs to shut up, especially about intrinsically flawed polls, until the primaries are actually happening.
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trump isn't just stirring fear and prejudiced crowd, he's stirring the old hippies who haven't sees anyone worth voting for since 1980. they see bernie as the anti-trump and a the one person in the race who has a history of being honest and worth going to the polls for.
mrs. clinton shouldn't take the nomination for granted.
mrs. clinton shouldn't take the nomination for granted.
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Funny: questions raised in the NYT are often credibly answered in _other_ stories in the NYT, where I got these arguments.
Why does Trump resonate with "thinking people?" Because they feel frightened and powerless -- not just against terrorism, but against a system that is squeezing their lives, making it harder and harder to do the necessary. They are open to any change, especially those that validate their own fears.
Why is Clinton worried? Because the electorate as a whole sees her as only "marginally more palatable" than Trump. Trump addresses their fears directly and offers answers that "the establishment" doesn't like. Clinton offers soft and/or qualified prescriptions for change; "the establishment" is what she's all about. The fear of bait-and-switch promises is large, "false change."
I would argue that Clinton should not triangulate in response to Trump's popularity, but strongly and firmly state what she believes. If she strongly believes anything.
Why does Trump resonate with "thinking people?" Because they feel frightened and powerless -- not just against terrorism, but against a system that is squeezing their lives, making it harder and harder to do the necessary. They are open to any change, especially those that validate their own fears.
Why is Clinton worried? Because the electorate as a whole sees her as only "marginally more palatable" than Trump. Trump addresses their fears directly and offers answers that "the establishment" doesn't like. Clinton offers soft and/or qualified prescriptions for change; "the establishment" is what she's all about. The fear of bait-and-switch promises is large, "false change."
I would argue that Clinton should not triangulate in response to Trump's popularity, but strongly and firmly state what she believes. If she strongly believes anything.
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I kind of feel bad that some people actually are so susceptible to right wing media that they are brainwashed into believing everything they say about Hillary. They need to do their own research. This Benghazi terrorist attack is what it is. Just like the terrorists attacks on all the other embassies under W's watch. And there was a video out there at the same time which incited Muslims around the world. They did not put Susan Rice out there to lie, she was scheduled ahead of time for the Sunday shows. Unfortunately, events were occurring so fast, no one knew if this was due to the video or just the normal crazies who hate us. Hillary has been too nice. But she also knows how much the Republicans hate her and has been through a lot worse over the years. She's tough, intelligent and she knows all the players around the world and how they operate. She is going to be a fantastic President and continue to be a great role model for woman and girls. As far as Trump go's, now that he has teed off Hispanics, blacks, and the whole Muslim world, and the majority of Americans, he may want his old job back sooner rather than later.
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Maybe you should include the American embassy attacks in Africa in 1998 in which over 200 people were murdered? Maybe it does not fit your agenda and the fact the a Clinton was in the White House at the time having oral sex with an intern.
Maybe instead of hurling a few cruise missiles over Sudan and Afghanistan in Operation Infinite Reach, President Clinton should have used our highly trained and deadly special forces to actually go and get Bin Laden for the murder of American citizens.
Maybe a few thousand families might not be in mourning every September 11th and the twin towers will still be standing.
Maybe instead of hurling a few cruise missiles over Sudan and Afghanistan in Operation Infinite Reach, President Clinton should have used our highly trained and deadly special forces to actually go and get Bin Laden for the murder of American citizens.
Maybe a few thousand families might not be in mourning every September 11th and the twin towers will still be standing.
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Shocking! Astounding that it's only Hillary's opinion that matters. What is pathetic and repugnant here is that the NYTimes completely neglects to mention BERNIE SANDERS, who is far more in touch with the voter anxiety that propels Trumps followers.
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I dunno, New York Times, but maybe if you devoted just a fraction of the space to Bernie as you do Trump, we wouldn't be in this god-awful situation.
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"Hillary Clinton and her campaign, confounded by Donald J. Trump’s continued strength in the polls, have had to rethink how they handle him." So typical of the Clinton camp. Always confounded that her path to the Oval Office is not strewn with rose petals. Opposition? What opposition?
So Hillary: try thinking like a patriot, then acting. Start by calling out Trump for what he is, as well as what he says. He won't like it, but America will. Or do you need to convene a focus group first to model various potential "responses?" Because of the modeling doesn't guarantee you a rise in polling, then you won't do it. If that's the case, then you're not fit to occupy the Oval Office.
So Hillary: try thinking like a patriot, then acting. Start by calling out Trump for what he is, as well as what he says. He won't like it, but America will. Or do you need to convene a focus group first to model various potential "responses?" Because of the modeling doesn't guarantee you a rise in polling, then you won't do it. If that's the case, then you're not fit to occupy the Oval Office.
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In all of this Hillary-Trump talk, let's remember that it's Bernie who soundly defeats Trump in the overall polls.
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All terrorist attacks now make Trump a credible alternative to Hillary: be afraid.
What I find interesting is the current orthodoxy that the hard right is fed up with the state of governance in America when it is they who have fostered the climate of political absolutism and ideologic purity that has brought the legislative process to a standstill. They have elected members to the House based on their "Never Compromise!" approach who have effectively brought the legislative branch of the government to a standstill. The hard right put in office the very people who are making it their job to see that government accomplishes nothing. And now they complain vociferously that nothing is getting done in Congress! This supposedly is part of the rationale underlying their love affair with Trump. He will get done the things that their elected officials - who they elected - refuse to do.
Utter insanity. Unless and until the Republican party can recapture their own primary process from the hard right, this will be the way of the future. And we as a nation are doomed to many years of ineffective governance and the extolling of values that we thought were long ago discredited as being beneath us as the foremost democracy on the planet.
Utter insanity. Unless and until the Republican party can recapture their own primary process from the hard right, this will be the way of the future. And we as a nation are doomed to many years of ineffective governance and the extolling of values that we thought were long ago discredited as being beneath us as the foremost democracy on the planet.
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I am beginning to wonder if I live on a different planet. The chances of being killed by a jihadist are minimal compared with those of being killed by a local nut while I shop. Now I have to show "concern" for the loonies who vote for Trump? Should I now also start believing Fox news? This is starting to feel like Germany in the thirties. Remember "They came for the Muslims, but I was not a Muslim, then they came for ....etc"
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What about your chance of being killed by an illegal alien? BTW - Does it all come down to YOUR chance of being injured? Do you care at all about the folks slaughtered by Tashfeen? Their families??
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There is one group Hillary and the Democrats should fear more than Trump, and that is ISIS. A few well timed attacks by ISIS supporters in the US closer to the 2016 elections will put a Republican in the WH. ISIS sees how frightened societies lean rightward. Marine Le Pen in France is a good example.
Hard to imagine Cruz or Trump as POTUS, but the odds may be improving.
Hard to imagine Cruz or Trump as POTUS, but the odds may be improving.
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Dear Hilary,
Over 70% of the people polled express Fear at the prospect of DT as president.
Maybe you could remind the other 30% that, not only should they fear him, but they should fear every deranged armed white non-Muslim who already lives here and by whom most mass murders are perpetrated. And they should fear a GOP who would permit easy access to weapons to people legitimately on watch lists -- for whatever reason ( kkk, white supremacist, anti-government, neo-Nazi, or jihadist). Don't offer us bumper stickers with DT's name on them, even as part of a # anti-hate message. Let's not even mention his name. Let's call him the Newly Unleashed Terror facing our country. NUT for short. Then let's move on.
Over 70% of the people polled express Fear at the prospect of DT as president.
Maybe you could remind the other 30% that, not only should they fear him, but they should fear every deranged armed white non-Muslim who already lives here and by whom most mass murders are perpetrated. And they should fear a GOP who would permit easy access to weapons to people legitimately on watch lists -- for whatever reason ( kkk, white supremacist, anti-government, neo-Nazi, or jihadist). Don't offer us bumper stickers with DT's name on them, even as part of a # anti-hate message. Let's not even mention his name. Let's call him the Newly Unleashed Terror facing our country. NUT for short. Then let's move on.
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Communists murdered 150 million innocent civilians in the 20th century alone. Should we fear communists???
Party Elites need to remember that Americans have a right to have their immigration laws enforced, and they have a right to determine who is invited into their house.
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We could be on the verge of history.
This could be the first presidential election in my lifetime where the media's greasy thumbs will not be on the scales.
Quite honestly, the establishment news media is out of silver bullets.
The insurmountable scandal the media fabricated with Trump's proposal to MERELY pause Obama's 100% failed immigration system until we can figure out a system that keeps us safer has already drifted out of the news cycle, and Trump GAINED support.
It's time for the news media to admit defeat, the desperation of the NYT, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and even FOX News to drum Donald Trump out of the 2016 election is a sad sight.
This could be the first presidential election in my lifetime where the media's greasy thumbs will not be on the scales.
Quite honestly, the establishment news media is out of silver bullets.
The insurmountable scandal the media fabricated with Trump's proposal to MERELY pause Obama's 100% failed immigration system until we can figure out a system that keeps us safer has already drifted out of the news cycle, and Trump GAINED support.
It's time for the news media to admit defeat, the desperation of the NYT, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and even FOX News to drum Donald Trump out of the 2016 election is a sad sight.
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Hate or Pragmatism? The voters will decide.
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If Trump had any nuance or sophistication he could act like a leader here by explaining that terrorism isn't part of religion. Daesh and Wahhibism are extreme, kill everyone movements that are not promoted by the Muslim religion.
And good lord, being a Muslim doesn't make anyone a terrorist. The very idea is infantile. Most of us see Trump as pandering to people's worst instincts. It's really a shame he can't come up with an intelligent, mature response to the fears people have about terrorism. But I do expect Hillary to, and this is the time we need to hear from her.
And good lord, being a Muslim doesn't make anyone a terrorist. The very idea is infantile. Most of us see Trump as pandering to people's worst instincts. It's really a shame he can't come up with an intelligent, mature response to the fears people have about terrorism. But I do expect Hillary to, and this is the time we need to hear from her.
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What kind of person would vote for Hillary Clinton? What has she ever done that accomplished something? They say she has "experience". Well Frederick the Great said that "experience only matters when good things come of it." I agree. She rode the coattails of Bill into the Arkansas mansion and used the connection to join a law firm and all she did was become involved in scandal after scandal. She was fired from the Watergate Judiciary Committee for lying...by the Democrat head of the committee. Again, what has she accomplished other than involvement with one bad policy after another. And some of you want HER to be president? Forget demographics, our nation is in so much trouble that we need proven leadership - she has really never done anything that has accomplished anything positive. And after breaking federal law as the Sec. of State, she belongs in the big house (prison) with free room and board. Capiche?
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We. Are. Tired. Of. The. Establishment. News. Media.
We. Are. Tired. Of. Lying. Career. Politicians.
We. Want. The. Change. We. Were. Promised.
It's just that simple.
Get used to the sound of President-Elect Donald J. Trump.
The gig is up, liberals.
Here in Washington DC, you can see the panic.
We. Are. Tired. Of. Lying. Career. Politicians.
We. Want. The. Change. We. Were. Promised.
It's just that simple.
Get used to the sound of President-Elect Donald J. Trump.
The gig is up, liberals.
Here in Washington DC, you can see the panic.
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be careful of what you wish for. If you are tired of lying you should be tired of Trump, go to fackcheck.org to fact check some of the lies are being passed for truth these days. Don't let his charisma and 'candor' fool you. If out of the 15 or so candidates running on the right I'm surprised you vote for someone up to recently was a democrat. He isn't even a dye in the wool conservative. Trumps tells you and others what you want to hear. The campaign will be easy for Trump but the actual governance will bore him.
Talk about squirming! Her "work" is caving in all over her face every time she lies. A 2015 version of Pinnochio.
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Has anyone though of just ignoring Trump--including Hillary? Trump doesn't need to be handled with a strategy, he just needs to be starved of the only thing he craves--attention.
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Donald Trump is a creation of, and empowered by, the U.S. media. If Trump had proposed to bar Jews from entering the country, the media wouldn't even bother running the comments. It would cut him off. The problem is not Trump. The problem is the ownership structure of the U.S. media, that allows a few people to control the industry, and to use it to foster hate against Muslims for political reasons.
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Many americans are so tired of the traditional politician thus one major reason why TRUMP will win. Trump can't possibly do any worse than the last 2 guys in office, physically impossible. Americans are tired of corrupt politicians PERIOD! HC is the worse too. Its morally and ethically wrong to vote for her. For god sake, her husband stuck a cigar up that gals hooch in the oval office. HC stuck around, come on folks, you don't left that one get by you. WAKE UP, a vote for HC means more, crime, more illegals, more refugees, more taxes, more free welfare, free food stamps, free medical, free financial aid. more blacks and white trailer trash sitting on their porches collecting free government assistance. Just remember the JV team who will be knocking on your door in the future to kill you and your family. They are here already, just a matter of time. Hope you live in gated community.
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Trump's appeal is that he says what he believes, based on impulse, emotion and fear, and many people share his sentiments. But the job of President of the United States requires diplomacy, clear-headedness, political finesse and a muting of emotion in favor of strategic thinking and compassionate leadership. Trump has none of the qualifications required for the job.
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He is now talking ordinary people who don't feel represented by the establishment. Do you know how he talks in making business transactions? I don't.
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Trump is focusing in on a lot of peoples fears, however he has no solution. Hilary would be better off focusing on solutions rather than worrying about Trumps tirades. Bernie Sanders speaks more to what concerns the American people in general but for whatever reason the media does not give him coverage, including the NYT
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Headline: "To Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump is No Laughing Matter"
Why is the NYTimes and their columnists laughing? I suggest a more mature approach to politics, rather than sophomoric name calling towards Donald and his many, many, many followers.
Why is the NYTimes and their columnists laughing? I suggest a more mature approach to politics, rather than sophomoric name calling towards Donald and his many, many, many followers.
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Hillary doesn't get it and won't when it's over. Trump is giving a practical approach not a political sound bite of "values." The recent passage of a bill out of the US Congress by over 400 votes to exclude those coming from Syria, Iraq and other places from the Middle East is in effect another way of saying no Muslims for now.
People forget that 40 years ago no such type of threat was conceivable in the US. Trump looks at this pragmatically and that is why he would beat Hillary now if an election were held today.
People forget that 40 years ago no such type of threat was conceivable in the US. Trump looks at this pragmatically and that is why he would beat Hillary now if an election were held today.
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I am a fan of Sanders. However, I can see the appeal of Trump. The traditional democrats and republicans have failed the majority of Americans. We all know that if you're around 50 and become unemployed, you may never work again. We also all know that the unemployment rate in not around 5%, it is closer to 15% with people permanently out of the job market. We are engaged in continuous wars and our infrastructure is frayed. We have a democrat who has supported Wall Street and every war on one side and republicans who work to appeal to the economic lower half of America but serve the top 1% when elected. So Sanders is change that many like and Trump is change is vague and not clear to many of the people who would vote for him. Also, I've come to think the far right is pretty unappealing but I don't find the far left attacks on Trump (i.e., NYtimes editorials) very enlightening or appealing.
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The worst thing for Hillary to do at this time would be to take Trump head on. It will just drag her into the Trump slugfest and lower her standing with potential voters. She needs to wait till the rest of the Republican field has finished with him and take him on at the General if he is the nominee.
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'Trust' is at the center of Hillary's issues, and she cannot be trusted to tell the truth, and many polls confirm that. The DNC is hanging their hat on someone that has trouble being honest, and most of the American people know it.
The crony corruption of the dealing with the CGI during her tenure at State is troublesome, but it is her uncanny ability to lie without remorse that will do her in.
The crony corruption of the dealing with the CGI during her tenure at State is troublesome, but it is her uncanny ability to lie without remorse that will do her in.
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Yes, Trump is no laughing matter. And even less are his supporters. We sing that this is "the land of the brave", but where is all courage gone? We applaud to the heroes that risk their lives to save a child from a raging fire or from drowning in stormy waters. The people that seek refuge in the US and Europe are escaping from the horrors of senseless ans systematic mass murder. They try to save their children from death and despair. And our response is to shut the door and possibly send them back because we are afraid of some relatively small gang of terrorists that can cause us some occasional harm. I find amazing and paradoxical that such lack of basic courage is being described by someone as being tough and strong. Nothing to laugh about there.
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No one who is even marginally decent is laughing anymore. Donald Trump is an abomination and a danger to us all.
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If you're one of the Americans the economy has been failing since the "jobless recovery" of 2001, who should you turn to? The Democratic Party's roots are in labor, sometimes its official name is still the Democratic Labor Party. But in 2001, they embraced globalization, and condemning "protectionism" as "xenophobic" and "racist". The big crash was in 2008, but if you were one an older, probably white, worker in the pre-2008 economy, you saw your fortunes change already in 2006 when all the companies were shedding people who put too much "burden" on the company health benefits.
What did the Democratic Labor Party do? They, and the press, sat in Manhattan and Washington, where the rich got richer and the public sector didn't shed much. The Party pretended they'd solved the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression in record time, and the press quickly moved on to the politics of race and gender preference, and the notion that if you were white, older, and male, you were a member of the white supremacy oppressor class even if you were living out of a cardboard box.
So now they, and you, are trying to "understand" Donald Trump? You people made this guy by ignoring an entire demographic and banning all "hatred" in speech except the hatred of that demographic. People without good work are easy marks for hatred. You understand that if it's a young black man without a good job. You don't understand it if it's an old white man. You so deserve what you've wrought.
What did the Democratic Labor Party do? They, and the press, sat in Manhattan and Washington, where the rich got richer and the public sector didn't shed much. The Party pretended they'd solved the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression in record time, and the press quickly moved on to the politics of race and gender preference, and the notion that if you were white, older, and male, you were a member of the white supremacy oppressor class even if you were living out of a cardboard box.
So now they, and you, are trying to "understand" Donald Trump? You people made this guy by ignoring an entire demographic and banning all "hatred" in speech except the hatred of that demographic. People without good work are easy marks for hatred. You understand that if it's a young black man without a good job. You don't understand it if it's an old white man. You so deserve what you've wrought.
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Democrats are learning they are making a BIG mistake to mock Americans' concerns about Islamic terrorism, especially in the wake of San Bernadino. But will they learn in time? Probably not, because secretly they do mock those concerns, and such an attitude is hard to conceal.
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People die by firearms every day in this country and no republican blinks an eye, even if 25 children get gunned down. Do you get the irony?
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Dee
Do you get the difference? American believe they benefit from gun ownership (it's a freedom they prize), just as they believe they benefit from car ownership (and cars kill even more people than guns). No one believes there is a benefit to Islamic terrorism. It's all downside.
Do you get the difference? American believe they benefit from gun ownership (it's a freedom they prize), just as they believe they benefit from car ownership (and cars kill even more people than guns). No one believes there is a benefit to Islamic terrorism. It's all downside.
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I don't think most people benefit from carrying a semi automatic weapon. The only people who benefit are people who want to take out a lot of people quickly like the crazy guys who kill at malls or at churches or at schools or at movie theatres.
I don't agree with what Trump said about banning Muslim immigration. But I get irritated when I read these articles compare what he said to previous times in US history where certain immigrant groups were targeted (Japanese interment and anti German sentiment during WW II, anti Catholic 1850's, etc...). Japanese American citizens or immigrants were not trying to mass murder people in the U.S. in WW II, Catholics were not trying to mass murder Americans in the 1850's. But we had:
1. 9/11 where *17 Muslims* entering American killed 3,000 people and destroyed a big part of Americans largest city and the Pentagon
2. *Two Muslims* (one born in US) just machine gunned down 14 people in San Bernadino (one recently entered the US with a Visa)
3. *A Muslim man* mass murdered 4 U.S. marines in Chattanooga
4. A* Muslim man* mass murdered nine U.S. military at Ft. Hood
5. *Two Muslim men* bombed the Boston marathon
6. *Two Muslim men* tried to commit a mass shooting in Garland TX and were thrwarted
So this is not the same as previous immigration situations in the US. We have never had one religious group or ethnicity immigrating wanting to mass murder Americans. So stop trying to be politically correct and compare this to previous times in US History!
1. 9/11 where *17 Muslims* entering American killed 3,000 people and destroyed a big part of Americans largest city and the Pentagon
2. *Two Muslims* (one born in US) just machine gunned down 14 people in San Bernadino (one recently entered the US with a Visa)
3. *A Muslim man* mass murdered 4 U.S. marines in Chattanooga
4. A* Muslim man* mass murdered nine U.S. military at Ft. Hood
5. *Two Muslim men* bombed the Boston marathon
6. *Two Muslim men* tried to commit a mass shooting in Garland TX and were thrwarted
So this is not the same as previous immigration situations in the US. We have never had one religious group or ethnicity immigrating wanting to mass murder Americans. So stop trying to be politically correct and compare this to previous times in US History!
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What about the mass shootings by young white males that happen on a regular basis in this country. What should we do with this demographic? Or, is it okay for that group to go into a movie theatre or a mall or an elementary school and murder people? To make assumptions about an entire group of people-- whether it be young white males, or black men or police officers or Muslims -- is discriminatory.
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Will all you Trump supporters please leave the country? You don't belong here.. Please leave and take Trump with you.
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People like the fact that Trump pulls no punches even though most of what he says is asinine. He is an equal opportunity offender. He calls out the left and the right. He is shining a light on the joke that is our political system. Our system is a fraud where those that actually pull the strings select the two candidates that we get to vote for. It allows us to feel like we have a choice when we really don't. I guess the jokes on us.
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Donald Trump is a lot smarter than everyone is giving him credit for. In the age of politics by sound bite, he is the perfect candidate. The statements that he makes appeal to peoples gut feelings. Whether you like him or not, he has mastered the art of being the "sound bite orator". Clinton and the other candidates have not figured this out. Attacking him is counter productive, as he is an excellent counter puncher. What Clinton needs is an impassioned approach as to what is going on in the world and how she would solve it. A policy wonk will not make it, Jeb being the obvious example.
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My fear is that this will play out like "The Manchurian Candidate".
A presidential aspirant harmed, his successor anointed with his blood and a likely suspect as assassin killed.
An unexpected landslide, fear of the others, and temporary measures like the suspension of civil liberties, in place to protect us after the election.
Temporary holding camps established nationwide.
A presidential aspirant harmed, his successor anointed with his blood and a likely suspect as assassin killed.
An unexpected landslide, fear of the others, and temporary measures like the suspension of civil liberties, in place to protect us after the election.
Temporary holding camps established nationwide.
I have a hard time figuring out why people think that Donald Trump is 'hateful.' No one in this debate seems ready, willing, OR able to provide any examples of exactly how he is hateful. Because people are terminally offended these days, it is becoming impossible for people to discern between what is truly 'offensive' and what is simply blunt, curt, or simply, impolite. That doesn't make a person's speech 'offensive.' People are responding to Donald Trump because they have grown weary focus-tested and politically-correct answers and opinions from their politicians. I think that what should scare the establishment is that so many people have walked right past them and gravitated to Trump, despite how unsavory they have tried to make his statements out to be. What should scare them further is how many people are not going to say a word about their support for him. They may even not answer truthfully when asked who they will vote for. But when they go behind that curtain, they will exercise their majority in "silence" and he be elected president. That, or he will lose a close election and possibly take the republican party down with him. Either way, as an Independent, I hope the same will eventually happen to the democrat party.
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His speech is not "offensive" as much as it is stupid. Build a wall to keep out the Mexicans-- really?! Not allow any Muslims into the country-- how does one do that, by having them tattooed with "Muslim" on their foreheads? As Clinton says, he talks in soundbites because he can't really explain in detail his ideas about keeping America safe. And the ignorant people who follow him think he has all the answers-- sigh.
Mrs. Clinton is quite right to stop laughing at Mr. Trump's antics and we who are appalled by him should do the same. Yes, he speaks of problems which should be addressed openly but he provides no workable solutions except for broad-based nonsense and "trust me and I'll solve them". He is a very shrewd politician and presents a real danger for the future of American democracy. Is he a fascist? Probably. Is he a joke? Absolutely not!
U.S. media is absolutely wrong to say that Hillary is the "Democratic party's best chance at winning the White House." Its the opposite, the complete opposite. If Democrats nominate her over Sanders, that will be the best chance REPUBLICANS have for taking the White House. People on the left, and in the middle, are not deluding themselves about how dishonest she's been, or her obedience to Wall Street and the oil/gas industry. If Democrats nominate her, there will be a massive number of people on the left and moderates sitting out the vote. IT will be the best opportunity for the Republicans. The Democratic party has absolutely no strategy anymore, they tell themselves money is the answer, and they constantly pay the price for it. Sanders is by far the best chance for Democrats to beat any Republican candidate, as well as saving the Democratic party from it's corrosive corporate bent.
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Eleven months to go, and Senator Sanders is with us. Thank-goodness.
Clinton stated that she attended Trump's wedding because she thought him fun. Perhaps he is fun in a controlled environment of wealth. I don't perceive him as fun. I perceive Trump as quite intelligent, mentally ill, cunning in his methods of public performance, expressly intended to manipulate international media and his unreasoning audience.
My concern is with articles like the one in politico that informed readers of the upgrade found necessary by the largest internet white supremacy group in America. The spokesman interviewed said that the upgrade had been necessary due to the increase in advocates for white supremacy on the site, specifically in support of Donald Trump.
Trump is a magnet for white supremacy advocates in his enthusiastically manic hate speeches supporting racism, violence, and physical brutality, as seen during a recent Trump rally wherein a black protestor was thrown to the floor by Trump followers, pushed and shoved what appeared to be an unorganized gauntlet of attackers.
Trump not only propagates such activity, he feeds it while feeding upon it, cunningly, lovingly, in hopes that his violent message will continue to grow.
For now, Trump is having his way with America. We need to take Trump's fascist message very seriously. A vote for this guy is a vote to relive the ugliest times in America's history.
Clinton stated that she attended Trump's wedding because she thought him fun. Perhaps he is fun in a controlled environment of wealth. I don't perceive him as fun. I perceive Trump as quite intelligent, mentally ill, cunning in his methods of public performance, expressly intended to manipulate international media and his unreasoning audience.
My concern is with articles like the one in politico that informed readers of the upgrade found necessary by the largest internet white supremacy group in America. The spokesman interviewed said that the upgrade had been necessary due to the increase in advocates for white supremacy on the site, specifically in support of Donald Trump.
Trump is a magnet for white supremacy advocates in his enthusiastically manic hate speeches supporting racism, violence, and physical brutality, as seen during a recent Trump rally wherein a black protestor was thrown to the floor by Trump followers, pushed and shoved what appeared to be an unorganized gauntlet of attackers.
Trump not only propagates such activity, he feeds it while feeding upon it, cunningly, lovingly, in hopes that his violent message will continue to grow.
For now, Trump is having his way with America. We need to take Trump's fascist message very seriously. A vote for this guy is a vote to relive the ugliest times in America's history.
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a lot of what Mr. Trump says, makes sense, but I certainly would not want him as a friend. It is sad for muslims around the world to feel insecure. However, the fear of terrorists attacks is well founded. But there is a lot more to it. I do not want to be stared at in my country if I am not veiled. I do not want to become (again) a second class citizen as a woman. Yes, there is a clear program to install a world caliphat . I do not want this in my peacefull country. Trump is the only person capable of saying NO. When the U.S sneazes, we catch a cold.
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I'm an independent voter. I have never missed voting in an election. In the last two elections I voted for President Obama. Recently I attended a Christmas party out here on Long Island, NY during which the discussion turned to the current political campaign. I am a good listener. At one point the conversation turned to Mr. Trump's recent hour-long speech in Georgia which some of the guests had watched on YouTube. Apparently they had been quite impressed with Mr. Trump's candid comments. When I returned home later that evening I went on the internet and listened to the speech. I don't particularly like Mr. Trump's boorish attitude but I must say that his speech impressed me.
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He's a hard working man. He has been on the trail non stop. He will work just as hard as president. He loves America. I absolutely adore him, and think he is going to be one of the greatest, most beloved presidents ever. His individuality says it all. He is 100% American. That's what is so great about America
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Isn't Trump the guy that bought Hillary Clinton for US$ 100,000.00 during one of her campaigns in exchange for her going to his daughter's wedding?
The reason Donald Trump is the GOP candidate that isn't bought by big money is that he is big money.
The reason Donald Trump is the GOP candidate that isn't bought by big money is that he is big money.
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`Democrats Aren’t Laughing at Trump'
I am.
I am.
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She is going to make a great President.
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Ever since Barack Obama was elected president, I have been saying that the vitriol rising in our country has been very disturbing. And it's been coming from only one direction.
After watching Trump's rally in Alabama last August, I thought I'd seen a deja vu of Hitler's 1934 Nuremberg rally. No joke. I fear for our country; I am afraid of the fear of some of my fellow Americans and what it motivates them to think and do. We have seen the enemy, and he is us.
After watching Trump's rally in Alabama last August, I thought I'd seen a deja vu of Hitler's 1934 Nuremberg rally. No joke. I fear for our country; I am afraid of the fear of some of my fellow Americans and what it motivates them to think and do. We have seen the enemy, and he is us.
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Vote for Bernie Sanders in the Primary. He can beat Trump, hands-down. I don't believe Clinton can. Trump vs Clinton would basically be two Republicans running against each other.
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What comes to mind is the old saying that for every problem there is an quick easy solution - which is wrong. Trump specifically and the Repubs in general are masters at presenting such facile politically appealing solutions. Trump's shoot from the hip decisiveness and his 'take no prisoners' approach to everything is appealing. He is very dangerous. He is a classic demagogue. The key is if he is nominated, how will he appeal to the low info so-called 'independent voters'?
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Barring entry to people based on religion is unacceptable and unconstitutional (as wall as impractical). However, how many would strenuously object to a temporary ban on tourist, student, work and spousal visas (with some practical exceptions) to all people from Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Nigeria, Yemen. . . until a more thorough vetting process can be implemented? A ban by nationality for security or policy reasons would be in no way unprecedented, and the practical effect would be largely the same.
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How about a suspension of all immigration until we sort this out?
Not unlike suspending all flights after 9/11
Not unlike suspending all flights after 9/11
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There is nothing more gratifying than a naked Republican mind that is too often spoken. Donald Trump IS a Republican in every way imaginable.
Clinton is a bystander missing a Golden opportunity to capitalize on the hate and anger that defines the opposition. Until Clinton publically and energetically condemns Trumps words, she will be a side show to the main act.
Clinton is a bystander missing a Golden opportunity to capitalize on the hate and anger that defines the opposition. Until Clinton publically and energetically condemns Trumps words, she will be a side show to the main act.
Polygraph everyone who wants to board a plane bound for the U.S.A.
Don't ask their religion, ask their intent.
(1) Do you intend to kill Americans?
(2) Is your "wife" planning to spend her life with you, or was your "marriage" her way of getting into the country?
(3) Do you believe infidels should be killed? Etc.
Knowing they will be polygraphed at the airport will deter many from attempting to make the trip. Failing the test will keep others out.
Calling Trump names and mocking his supporters? How is that acceptable?
Don't ask their religion, ask their intent.
(1) Do you intend to kill Americans?
(2) Is your "wife" planning to spend her life with you, or was your "marriage" her way of getting into the country?
(3) Do you believe infidels should be killed? Etc.
Knowing they will be polygraphed at the airport will deter many from attempting to make the trip. Failing the test will keep others out.
Calling Trump names and mocking his supporters? How is that acceptable?
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Is the text below the lead photo serious? Really now, if the Democrats, whom I usually vote for, haven't figured out "the roots of his appeal" weeks ago, they are either simpletons or incompetent. One big thing in his favor is that he's the first candidate since Jack Kennedy who has his own money, though Ms. Clinton has plenty today. That's a huge plus after all the previous guys who ended up as "two heads on the same body," as Ralph Nader said. And liars or bunglers all.
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A primer on immigration for the unenlightened: The genesis of U.S. immigration was really about the CONTRIBUTION immigrants make to our nation, i.e., How can immigrants make America better? Fast forward a few decades and we have turned U.S. immigration policy (mostly) into a giant ‘safety net’ to the world and turned America into one massive social services agency.
Mr. Trump maintains that current immigration policy is fiscally unsound and culturally disastrous.
“A lot of what he says resonates with what you and I would call ‘reasonable, thinking people,’” - Edward G. Rendell, Democratic Party advisor.
“reasonable, thinking people”. Bingo!
Mr. Trump maintains that current immigration policy is fiscally unsound and culturally disastrous.
“A lot of what he says resonates with what you and I would call ‘reasonable, thinking people,’” - Edward G. Rendell, Democratic Party advisor.
“reasonable, thinking people”. Bingo!
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Memo to everyone: Re: Misreading the Trump political phenomenon of 2015
A large portion of America's once affluent middle class and now their children are now America's working poor. They deeply resent that embarrassing status. They especially hate the "Wall Street" democrats who speak of hope but abandoned them after the election.
Over the last 30 years: American corporations laid off millions here and hired slave wage workers overseas, enacted tax policies slashed Mitt Romney's tax rate to 14%(and those like him), Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act & triggered an orgy of crime leading to the financial melt-down of 2008 and then Obama failed to not only prosecute those "Wall Street" criminals, he also bailed them out with tax money from the struggling middle class, and then most recently "Wall Street" democrats advocate for the TPP and to open our doors to refugees that hold beliefs hostile to American culture and values. The solution: Propose public policies that will bring back America's affluent middle class - bring back equality of opportunity for all Americans and erode the massive wealth gap. Propose immigration policies that only allow individuals into U.S. who hold values consistent with gender equality, civil liberties, free speech and the separation of church and state. Failure to follow this strategy will allow Trump to continue misleading America's angry and once affluent middle class and, ultimately, risks a President Trump on January 20, 2017.
A large portion of America's once affluent middle class and now their children are now America's working poor. They deeply resent that embarrassing status. They especially hate the "Wall Street" democrats who speak of hope but abandoned them after the election.
Over the last 30 years: American corporations laid off millions here and hired slave wage workers overseas, enacted tax policies slashed Mitt Romney's tax rate to 14%(and those like him), Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act & triggered an orgy of crime leading to the financial melt-down of 2008 and then Obama failed to not only prosecute those "Wall Street" criminals, he also bailed them out with tax money from the struggling middle class, and then most recently "Wall Street" democrats advocate for the TPP and to open our doors to refugees that hold beliefs hostile to American culture and values. The solution: Propose public policies that will bring back America's affluent middle class - bring back equality of opportunity for all Americans and erode the massive wealth gap. Propose immigration policies that only allow individuals into U.S. who hold values consistent with gender equality, civil liberties, free speech and the separation of church and state. Failure to follow this strategy will allow Trump to continue misleading America's angry and once affluent middle class and, ultimately, risks a President Trump on January 20, 2017.
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ISIS now will have to perform a Paris-style attack on the US, as this will assure a Trump victory. A Trump victory will feed into the cycle of overeaction that Muslims trying to actively trigger the End Days want.
It accelerates, in their view, the path to a worldwide Caliphate.
So, oddly, ISIS would be for Trump, too. And, not ironically, a lot of Trump's base are part of the 40% of American Christians who also believe we are living in the End Days.
Ancient, primitive, ignorant and out of date Abrahamic religions playing out their prophecies, favoring dogmatic and simplistic leaders who will take them to their goal.
It accelerates, in their view, the path to a worldwide Caliphate.
So, oddly, ISIS would be for Trump, too. And, not ironically, a lot of Trump's base are part of the 40% of American Christians who also believe we are living in the End Days.
Ancient, primitive, ignorant and out of date Abrahamic religions playing out their prophecies, favoring dogmatic and simplistic leaders who will take them to their goal.
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It's amazing how unhinged the establishment, the media and Democrats are becoming over Trump. All he is doing is what we have done before.
8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
President Jimmy Carter did the same thing with the caption "Prohibiting Immigration" There is a video out there but don't expect ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN to be showing Jimmy Carter's video banning immigrants from Iran.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/now-theres-video-jimmy-carter-ba...
8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
President Jimmy Carter did the same thing with the caption "Prohibiting Immigration" There is a video out there but don't expect ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN to be showing Jimmy Carter's video banning immigrants from Iran.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/now-theres-video-jimmy-carter-ba...
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Donald Trump speaks to a shrinking middle class economy - policies supported by Dems and Repubs alike. Like Bernie Sanders, Trump speaks to that issue. It remains to be seen if his vitriol is attention getter or policy. QInteresting that both candidates appear to,have broken through the locks that got us here. Quite a fight ahead.
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I remember when the Media and Liberal Elites predicted everyday that Reagan was a Joke. They mocked him for years, and had him losing the Presidential Elections by large margins. Even one week, before his 2nd term's election, the Liberal Media had him neck and neck - even losing by a few points. When he won by a complete Landslide, the Media was shocked. I see a repeat of this happening now. Trump is not my first choice, but I feel he is winning with many middle class democrats and many more working class people than the talking heads even consider. My job allows me to talk to many people every day. I haven't found very many people in this area that don't agree with Trump. Our country is in trouble, and more of the same is not going to work anymore. Our country has been transformed by Obama. He has been amazing. It's a shame he did more harm than good. It's just that people are not as stupid as he thinks. Race relations have been hurt badly directly by him. Our Country is worse off than when G.W. Bush was finally over. Minorities are much worse off now, after 7 years of his misguided leadership. The People know what has happened. Just because the media lies to them, it doesn't change what they can see and hear with their own eyes and ears. The majority hate what Obama has done. It's obvious. Hillary is a joke, and everybody knows it. This coming year is going to be a real barn burner.
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The majority on the right may hate Obama. He becomes the fall guy for anything that happens in this country. Race relations can improve at the individual level. Obama is an easy target and it fits the narrative by the right that he is the source of all our ills.
Ok, but when someone pulls the curtain shut and has to pull a lever, will they also imagine Trump doing something crazy? People are not as stupid as the media and politicians think. They may be smarter, or much dumber. They sure are mad!
Dismissing Trump and making fun of him further infuriates the mass that support some of his ideas. The more this happens the stronger he gets. Big mistake.
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Hillary feels Obama has deported "too many" migrants; she can't let in enough. How will the migrants thank their hapless pollyanna liberal supporters? After she gives them citizenship, they will vote to abolish reproductive freedom, gay rights, the EPA, the ERA, and the endangered species act, just to begin. Those are the peaceful ones. The jihdists will just abolish America.
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Trump was asked if he was worried that his ban would hurt our relationship with friendly Arab countries and as a result, they would not help us ( America) in our fight against Islamic extremism. He said, "No."
It was an honest answer. More importantly, our friendly Arab countries have not helped at all ( except for Jordan - the only beacon of rational thought in the Middle East) and have actually hurt us... Saudi Arabia is exporting the most extreme form of Islam ( kill the infidels, get 40 virgins, yada, yada, yada) and it is taught in their schools in Saudi Arabia.
Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. I hope all Christians here never forget that the Muslim Brotherhood under Morsi beheaded priests, burned Churches, and murdered Christians. The Obama administration with Hillary as Secretary of State was silent.
Iran is currently holding 4 Americans ( technically 5, one is dead).
Did Obama or Kerry get them back ( at that time 3 Americans) before they signed the Iran deal which gave back millions of dollars to Iran.
The answer is No.
What kind of administration leaves Americans behind? We gave the Iran administration everything, and in return they have already broken the deal, took another American hostage, and continue the chant, "Death to America".
We can't vet anyone from Syria PER THE FBI, but Obama has now ignored the FBI. Americans don't have their own secret service to clear the mall of pipe bombs.
It was an honest answer. More importantly, our friendly Arab countries have not helped at all ( except for Jordan - the only beacon of rational thought in the Middle East) and have actually hurt us... Saudi Arabia is exporting the most extreme form of Islam ( kill the infidels, get 40 virgins, yada, yada, yada) and it is taught in their schools in Saudi Arabia.
Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. I hope all Christians here never forget that the Muslim Brotherhood under Morsi beheaded priests, burned Churches, and murdered Christians. The Obama administration with Hillary as Secretary of State was silent.
Iran is currently holding 4 Americans ( technically 5, one is dead).
Did Obama or Kerry get them back ( at that time 3 Americans) before they signed the Iran deal which gave back millions of dollars to Iran.
The answer is No.
What kind of administration leaves Americans behind? We gave the Iran administration everything, and in return they have already broken the deal, took another American hostage, and continue the chant, "Death to America".
We can't vet anyone from Syria PER THE FBI, but Obama has now ignored the FBI. Americans don't have their own secret service to clear the mall of pipe bombs.
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Democrats are terrified of Trump. That's why on any given day, MSNBC devotes countless hours critiquing him and his supporters. They clearly consider Trump to be a real threat.
Many Dems, myself included, will hold their nose and vote for Hillary if Bernie Sanders doesn't get the nomination. Others won't vote, or will consider Trump. Some of what Trump says resonates because it aligns with core progressive New Deal objectives, such as bringing outsourced manufacturing jobs back from China.
In California, even many Dems are fed up with illegal immigration and the political correctness surrounding it. Drive through many parts of LA and you'd swear you're in a third world city. Years ago, the Sierra Club tried to address the elephant in the room---unchecked demographic growth---but PC-ness soon took over and some leaders had to resign. There's still a coalition of progressives who think enough is enough.
http://www.progressivesforimmigrationreform.org/sierra-club-reverses-cou...
Bottom line is that, yes, Trump is a demagogue who spouts insane rhetoric. It's probably hyperbole to get media attention, and probably not meant to be taken seriously. But many voters are so fed up with various issues and so sick of candidates bought and sold by lobbyists and super PACs that they would be willing to take a chance.
Many Dems, myself included, will hold their nose and vote for Hillary if Bernie Sanders doesn't get the nomination. Others won't vote, or will consider Trump. Some of what Trump says resonates because it aligns with core progressive New Deal objectives, such as bringing outsourced manufacturing jobs back from China.
In California, even many Dems are fed up with illegal immigration and the political correctness surrounding it. Drive through many parts of LA and you'd swear you're in a third world city. Years ago, the Sierra Club tried to address the elephant in the room---unchecked demographic growth---but PC-ness soon took over and some leaders had to resign. There's still a coalition of progressives who think enough is enough.
http://www.progressivesforimmigrationreform.org/sierra-club-reverses-cou...
Bottom line is that, yes, Trump is a demagogue who spouts insane rhetoric. It's probably hyperbole to get media attention, and probably not meant to be taken seriously. But many voters are so fed up with various issues and so sick of candidates bought and sold by lobbyists and super PACs that they would be willing to take a chance.
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win
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T is the decoy.
The real fear should be toward Cruz and Rubio - one of those 2 could be the next president - that is scary.
The real fear should be toward Cruz and Rubio - one of those 2 could be the next president - that is scary.
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Spot on. Trump has already mentioned single payer healthcare. Rubio and Cruz are crazy enough to start dismantling Social Security and Medicare the moment they've taken the oath of office. Trump would be far too smart to do any such things. Both Rubio and Cruz are far more frightening than Trump.
To all you Dumping on Trump, yes and the GREAT FDR put Japanese Americans in camps when we went to war with them too, It was called commonsense back then, Trump has it and it would seem everyone else has none! They (The Terrorist) have declared war on us just like the Japanese did and what do think FDR would do if he was here?
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Run Donald Run. Nothing could make me feel better about the state of my country than seeing you, and your ideology, soundly defeated in the general election.
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If American are terrified about anything, you can blame the political right which has been stoking that fear in every single election, national or regional, since the Great Yellow Peril was invented in the 1890s. Black people, Jews, Irish, Asians, tongs,"The Hun", Italians, catholics, Masons, anarchists, communists, trotskists, socialists, Ruskise, pedophiles, satanists, crack babies, raging juveniles, hippies, aliens, mafiosi, drug gangs, home invasion robbers, and on and on and on. The villains change with every election cycle when the older boogie man runs out of juice or fails to scare anymore. The avalanche of guns and in some ways the rash of police murders of unarmed men and boys are feuled an irrational fear of something invented by a politician for his benefit. Terrorism in the US is home grown and has been around for a long time. Demonizing the desperate from Syria will do NOTHING to stop it.
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Maybe his appeal is because the political class is so addicted to spin that all of the truth gets spun out in the DC spin cycle. Maybe the man on the street wants to hear an honest opinion, no matter how outlandish or outrageous; and not just pablum that has been poll and focus group tested by PR firms and political strategists touch a degree that the message is rendered completely anodyne lest any group take umbrage at its import. If so, then the response of ad hominem attacks -- such as ridiculing Trump's hair -- are all the more likely to backfire.
If so, then perhaps, HRC and others should take to heart John Lydate's observation about the possibility of pleasing all of the people, all of the time. Clearly the electorate is in the mood for a candidate who is not worried about speaking his mind, no matter who may be offended in the process.
If so, then perhaps, HRC and others should take to heart John Lydate's observation about the possibility of pleasing all of the people, all of the time. Clearly the electorate is in the mood for a candidate who is not worried about speaking his mind, no matter who may be offended in the process.
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Good to see some here are starting to understand. This is not about Trump and his ugly message. This is about how the establishment, however you want to break that down, has eroded the middle out of America to the point of hopelessness for the vast majority of its citizens.
You mocked "Occupy Wall Street" out of existence. Your politicians on both sides of the divide did nothing while people lost their homes, their jobs, their opportunities for a decent life while you gave the brass anything they wanted from cheap labor overseas, to tax breaks at home, to a free ride to pull money out of every nook and cranny the marketplace afforded them.
People are angry and Trump's popularity rides on that anger. That he is a brute, a bull in a china shop is just fine with them. He says the most outrageous things. Everyone gasps, the liberals call him out. His own people gasp, then hedge their bets when the polls come out with his new numbers.
If the Republicans and Democrats want to get a foot in this door, they better address the underlying reason why Trump is getting such traction. Ask themselves why Bernie Sanders is so popular. I don't even think Hillary Clinton will be able to swim against this tide anymore.
Remember that movie when people opened their windows and all shouted together, "We are mad as Hades, and we won't take it anymore." Well we are there now.
Ignore that scream at your peril.
You mocked "Occupy Wall Street" out of existence. Your politicians on both sides of the divide did nothing while people lost their homes, their jobs, their opportunities for a decent life while you gave the brass anything they wanted from cheap labor overseas, to tax breaks at home, to a free ride to pull money out of every nook and cranny the marketplace afforded them.
People are angry and Trump's popularity rides on that anger. That he is a brute, a bull in a china shop is just fine with them. He says the most outrageous things. Everyone gasps, the liberals call him out. His own people gasp, then hedge their bets when the polls come out with his new numbers.
If the Republicans and Democrats want to get a foot in this door, they better address the underlying reason why Trump is getting such traction. Ask themselves why Bernie Sanders is so popular. I don't even think Hillary Clinton will be able to swim against this tide anymore.
Remember that movie when people opened their windows and all shouted together, "We are mad as Hades, and we won't take it anymore." Well we are there now.
Ignore that scream at your peril.
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The "elite political community" is far removed from the people of this country and how their decisions are affecting them. Research shows us that politicians really don't give a hoot what citizens want and are more concerned with reelection and, acquiring more personal wealth. They don't understand how Trump is getting so far and how Bernie Sanders became a real contender - they aren't part of the "elite political community".
So, we have Trump to appeal to the worst in us, and we have Sanders for the bread-and-butter issues that are beating Americans down, exclusively. Neither are qualified to fill the shoes of Leader of the Free World.
Without the deplorable Citizens United decision for unlimited, unregulated money in politics would we even be having a discussion about Donald Trump? And I expect Sanders would be carrying on the fight in the Congress, where he belongs and where he can effect the changes he is fighting for - he can't do it as POTUS.
Americans are reaching for straws in an attempt get our "leaders" to listen to us above the clang of the cash register.
So, we have Trump to appeal to the worst in us, and we have Sanders for the bread-and-butter issues that are beating Americans down, exclusively. Neither are qualified to fill the shoes of Leader of the Free World.
Without the deplorable Citizens United decision for unlimited, unregulated money in politics would we even be having a discussion about Donald Trump? And I expect Sanders would be carrying on the fight in the Congress, where he belongs and where he can effect the changes he is fighting for - he can't do it as POTUS.
Americans are reaching for straws in an attempt get our "leaders" to listen to us above the clang of the cash register.
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Trump sure seems to epitomize the sense of infallibility and untouchability of the richest, most entitled in America who glorify their own wealth above all other values and perspectives.
"I'm rich. Therefore, I am smarter than everyone else, a better leader, and should run the world! Anyone with less money is a sucker to be exploited for my personal gain."
Astonishing that such an egomaniacal imbecile can win the support of so many people he looks so far down on from his weirdly gilded palaces and private jets.
"I'm rich. Therefore, I am smarter than everyone else, a better leader, and should run the world! Anyone with less money is a sucker to be exploited for my personal gain."
Astonishing that such an egomaniacal imbecile can win the support of so many people he looks so far down on from his weirdly gilded palaces and private jets.
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In my opinion it is still early days In this election, completely poll driven. Let's wait a bit for some votes to be cast!
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Notes from a life-long lefty: I've always voted Democratic. Always. Predictable. But Obama's disregard for the US immigration laws has soured me on this much-vaunted liberalism. The NYTimes coverage of Mr. Trump has substituted logic for labels and it's demeaning to we readers. It's become a yellow sheet in its blind fury. Fact is, Trump is pro-reason and anti-religion. He's not going to kowtow to the Muslims, the Jews, or the Catholics. Or the Hispanic lobby. He's a true America-First secularist and I like him. If he's the nominee I'm voting Republican for the first time in my life.
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In recent polls, we have seen that the majority of white men will NOT vote for Hillary. Some of them voted for Obama last time but will not vote for Clinton. She needs some of this group in order to win. Also, polls show that a surprising number of African Americans agree with Trump's immigration ideas. Hillary needs those guys, too.
I suspect Trump has a larger number of people voting for him than we can dream of. Me, I am a Rubio supporter.
I suspect Trump has a larger number of people voting for him than we can dream of. Me, I am a Rubio supporter.
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I think Mrs. Clinton would be better served if she talked about the anger of the American public rather than their fear at acts of terrorism on American soil. Americans are looking for more aggressive responses from our politicians regarding the terrorist threat, and this is better communicated by a focus on our anger rather than our fears.
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It should be clear to those attending to the Donald's security that his remarks have in all probability catapulted him to the top of many international jihadis terrorist target lists.
Likewise his assets, casinos, hotels and residences Terrorists are likely to go after these with the same avidity that they devoted to Charlie Hebdo.
His loose lips have jeopardized his own safety as well as that of the public who frequent or live in his hotels and residences.
Likewise his assets, casinos, hotels and residences Terrorists are likely to go after these with the same avidity that they devoted to Charlie Hebdo.
His loose lips have jeopardized his own safety as well as that of the public who frequent or live in his hotels and residences.
There certainly are a lot of bigots out there, but what people seem to be really responding to is Trump's perceived authenticity, that is, his refusal to speak diplomatically and his simple-minded adherence to his own convictions. People liked the same things about George W. Bush - at least until he failed at two wars and tanked the economy.
There is undeniably a fascist element to this yearning for the great man to come along and save us, as well as a infantile one - though the two are actually the same. You can't have fascism without regression. In short, Trump appeals to the immature, the fearful, and the weak-minded. He promises to act as their hammer in their stead. Or as the British biographer A.N. Wilson said, “As Hitler himself later enunciated, it matters not how idiotic the creed, what matters is the firmness with which it is enunciated.”
The message for Hillary may be that boldness tends to be rewarded, not punished. So be bold, but for the right reasons and in service to progress.
There is undeniably a fascist element to this yearning for the great man to come along and save us, as well as a infantile one - though the two are actually the same. You can't have fascism without regression. In short, Trump appeals to the immature, the fearful, and the weak-minded. He promises to act as their hammer in their stead. Or as the British biographer A.N. Wilson said, “As Hitler himself later enunciated, it matters not how idiotic the creed, what matters is the firmness with which it is enunciated.”
The message for Hillary may be that boldness tends to be rewarded, not punished. So be bold, but for the right reasons and in service to progress.
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Within the historical context this is actually very disturbing and you can draw similarities from Germany in the 30s or Italy in the 30s where there is a economically disafranchised working class and austerity economics and as a result right wing demagogue politicians get in power or get taken seriously. The game Donald is playing here is very dangerous who's to say america already as a long history of right wing political violence,who knows what could happen if the economic and political sitution goes to the extreme
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The one and only topic the candidates should be speaking of, is that of making our country economically viable once again. Me, I'm totally in favor of a higher GDP. All else will be worked out.
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The reason that the progressives don't get the "Trump phenomenon" is because they underestimate the depth and the breadth of anger after the last 7 years. This anger extends throughout the low and middle class on the right and left of the political spectrum. to those folks progressive rhetoric full of terms which are (symbolic for the progressives) are threatening and disingenuous. To them "affirmative action" means race quotas. "Undocumented immigrants" are illegal aliens; and "diversity" means self censorship. The see a candidate who doesn't speak in this Orwellian lexicon. And that is good enough for them even if he happens to be a crude charlatan. Because to them the terminology used by the progressives translates into lost jobs, bypassed promotions, blocked college entrance, and loss of the future. They will take anyone who speaks a different language.
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I will take a confab of the world's religious leaders to speak out at
The United Nations....what their religions stand for...and to denounce ISIS..
and to encourage people around the world into becoming the slaves of FEAR.
In this way....ISIS as well as FEAR mongering propagandists
like Donald Trump...will be defeated.
The United Nations....what their religions stand for...and to denounce ISIS..
and to encourage people around the world into becoming the slaves of FEAR.
In this way....ISIS as well as FEAR mongering propagandists
like Donald Trump...will be defeated.
Trump is correct. Just wait until the next wave of terrorists attacks. which will become more frequent and deadly. This is just the beginning. Eventually, the ostriches will get their heads out of the sand and scream loudly to secure our borders. Carter did something similar in 1979 and he was right to do it.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-u...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-u...
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In my little country Belgium, the media lies even more about Trump than in the USA. Still, his appeal here is amazing. You don't read it in the papers, but I know a lot of people across all segments of the population, and you wouldn't believe how much support Trump has, even here. Every time his quotes are taken out of context, people agree even with the smallest parts of it ! They are surprised someone finally dares to say what everyone thinks ! Also the women will vote for this alfa male, make no mistake. How can a weak person like Hillary, Cruz, Sanders etc. ever win from this real leader ? Our media, politicians and opinion makers have no clue about him, he tells the thruth, however ugly it is, something they would never dare to do. Aristotle called this "practical reasoning", which is as highly in esteem as theoretical reasoning. The ruling classes have artificially complicated easily solvable problems like immigration and islamic terrorism, with the sole goal of creating clientelism/socialism to get re-elected. Once again, the USA will lead the western world out of the claws of collectivism. I hope Europe will follow !
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We need to broaden our gaze. Donald Trump is a symptom of a genuine problem, but is not yet a problem in his own right and likely never will be. He is an opportunist with an aptitude for public relations but he will not be the Republican nominee for President.
The problem he reveals is the easy hate and fear on which he feasts - the easy racism and discarding of our better angels. Our very real problem is that ISIS may be right about Islam being at war with the west, at least in the hearts of many more Americans than we might have guessed or would like to admit.
That so many Americans feed such a violent jihad agenda based on hate & fear is a problem that will persist just below the surface long after Donald Trump's candidacy is ended. Mr. Trump did not create such ignorance; he only uses it cynically for ends which defy common sense and keep us from being the nation we can be and ought to be - but in too many quarters are not.
The problem he reveals is the easy hate and fear on which he feasts - the easy racism and discarding of our better angels. Our very real problem is that ISIS may be right about Islam being at war with the west, at least in the hearts of many more Americans than we might have guessed or would like to admit.
That so many Americans feed such a violent jihad agenda based on hate & fear is a problem that will persist just below the surface long after Donald Trump's candidacy is ended. Mr. Trump did not create such ignorance; he only uses it cynically for ends which defy common sense and keep us from being the nation we can be and ought to be - but in too many quarters are not.
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Trump supporters aren't afraid, they're ANGRY.
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They are extremely ignorant if they've fallen for this hate spewing buffoon. He has yet to tell how he plans to do everything he's claiming he's going to do. All we hear from this jerk is how much he's loved by everyone and he'll be the best president ever. The man's crazy and out of touch with reality.
These candidates we have who are fighting for the chance to lead us remind me of three-year-olds who keep screaming louder and louder, with less and less logic, to get as much attention as possible. Whoops, I'm maligning three-year-olds. I love them but I don't want one running my country. Give me a grownup who calmly and sincerely embraces liberty and justice for all, who lives their values, who has a set of deeply felt principles on which they firmly stand and publicly and consistently describe. Enough of this shameless pandering, trying to figure out what the American people want, changing stances, upping antes, and screaming louder to get higher poll numbers. Give me calm, give me sincerity, give me respect for our common good and our shared values. Our system of government, based on a document that offers more than the opportunity to arm ourselves when we're scared, will prevail only if we commit as a nation to pull together. But right now we're too busy fighting each other to prevail against any external threat.
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Donals Trump's global wealth depends on his business network in Muslim countries. He'll lose it all and be out on Wall Street with a tin cup..
One commenter wrote "These are not stupid people. They are not "haters." They are the sort of people who'd help a guy out, pay their bills, obey the law, and love their families. They are skilled craftsmen and businessmen with great reputations for doing a good job. I trust them in the ordinary sense of the word; I know they can be counted on to fair, helpful, and honest."
They are not stupid? Not so. They are misinformed and poorly informed voters. Most of their info comes from cable news (superficial and slanted) and then reinforced by conversing with equally under informed co-workers and friends. Do they read public affairs magazines? Do they read newspapers of depth and quality? Do they read? Sadly the answer is no.
They are not stupid? Not so. They are misinformed and poorly informed voters. Most of their info comes from cable news (superficial and slanted) and then reinforced by conversing with equally under informed co-workers and friends. Do they read public affairs magazines? Do they read newspapers of depth and quality? Do they read? Sadly the answer is no.
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Teddy Roosevelt once said that he was impatient with the drab notion that the mere making of money should be enough to satisfy the ambition of any man. Now here comes Donald Trump whose signature is his wealth and how he earned it. Trump grew up in Queens very close to where I did. His language today is not unlike the uninformed arguments we all took part in on the schoolyard basketball courts and heard in the delis, the bars and the beauty parlors. If you listen not just to what he says but how he says it, you see a NYC"money" guy who wandered into the political arena and brought the street talk with him. Trump never served in the military, never saw the blood flow, was never in a war zone, never put his life on the line and received several military deferments, though some seemed justified. When I worked in New York's City Hall years ago I met Trump. He was then what he is now: a guy on the make. He was pleasant and not really a tough or hard person who you would imagine holding great power. He seemed to yearn for approval and, like now, attention. He didn't quite seem self assured or confident in himself despite his rhetoric. I don't see Trump as an extreme right wing ideologue. I do see him running as Ventor In Chief. Yet his words and candidacy, his abysmal ignorance and the intoxication enormous power can visit on a person makes him a real concern. Yet not as big a concern as Marco Rubio who quietly and cleverly undermined the Affordable Care Act.
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Does Hillary Clinton already have the Democratic nomination sewn up? Is this another direct communication from the Clinton campaign about her current thoughts, kind of like the Op-Ed earlier this week about how she would rein in Wall St.? In other words, business as usual? This is the same Hillary Clinton who has been put front and center since her husband's election in 1992. The same one that was put in charge of the first healthcare rollout and failed. The same Hillary Clinton who was in charge of the Libya mess. The same one that takes money hand over fist from Wall St. The same one who explained that she deserved that money because she represented NY after 9/11. No wonder Trump is so popular and Hillary is no longer laughing.
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One thing for Hillary to remember and to help pass on about Trump is the Buddha's admonishment: " What you think you become." As part of your appeal as a leader,if you choose to trade in fear, ignorance and hate , your followers will almost certainly be the fearful, ignorant and hateful.... A weak and easily lead (and fooled) bunch to be certain.
"“When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,” she added. “But then you pull yourself together and, especially, if you want to be a leader of our country, and you say: ‘O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?’”"
A test she herself failed miserably during Benghazi.
A test she herself failed miserably during Benghazi.
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I find Bill's remark about simple solutions to complex problems hilarious. He should know; he's the guy who tried to complicate the definition of the word "is."
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Once again, Hillary, like Obama, has only a political reaction. They should be political operatives like Carville and Begala, not elected officials. Heads of state must put their country's interests ahead of their own. Bill Clinton said that while he often disagreed with Bush 43, he knew that Bush always did what he thought was best for the U.S., not for political reasons. Putin puts his country first. Even some of the most loathsome dictators in world history acted on what they thought was their countries' best interest; e.g., Stalin. The debacle of the Obama admin. is entirely because he always does what he thinks is politically best for him. We can't survive another president like that.
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I counted and if correct in this paper today on the Politics page there are seventeen articles or pictures of Donald Trump. Hillary should be worried as well as anyone else running for President. Trump is steamrolling the media and he is the main focus even over the California terrorist attack. If nominated he will be branded into the minds of every voter in the US.
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The NYT has told us more about Donald Trump in the last 6 months than they have about the ISIS threat in the USA in 2 years.
That's the kind of laziness at the wheel that makes America less safe.
That's the kind of laziness at the wheel that makes America less safe.
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I enjoy hearing Trump sound off. He is indirectly attacking the problem of professional politicians in the U.S. While both political parties and long-term pols. like Bill and Hillary, say these terrorist issues are complex problems which must be studied, and on, and on, Trump simply says, "Here's what I'm going to do." I disagree with some of the remedies he'd choose, but I like the energy, [apparent] sincerity, and candor he uses to deliver his message. Personally, I'm voting for Bernie Sanders. He's the only hope for the nation to become cleansed and move forward. The balance of the dems. and repubs. are professional politicians who believe in traditional back room politics and the deception of the public.
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NO ..... Dangerous is letting those with a desire to kill us in.
Especially when our own security services say we CAN'T Vet them.
Especially when our own security services say we CAN'T Vet them.
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Trump is not suggesting a permanent ban on muslims, he is suggesting a temporary ban until homeland security, the state department and other agencies get their policies and procedures in place so that the USA does not have a san bernindino. I would bet that is Clinton becomes president she would propose some similar type of police
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First people complain that all candidates just speak to the script, saying what people want to hear, are always worried about being PC, etc.
Now we have Trump, who is dong just the opposite, and people can't handle that either.
Amazing...
Now we have Trump, who is dong just the opposite, and people can't handle that either.
Amazing...
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People scared of bring attacked by a terrorist makes no sense. People could win the lottery 6 times in a row - get hit by lightning several times before being attacked and killed by a terrorist in the US. The odds are so remote.
Total irrational fear.
Total irrational fear.
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Easier to say when living in Tucson vs Manhattan. Bear in mind that some of the people in Manhattan who lived through 9/11 have become more nervous as a result of San Bernardino. I know some of those folks and feel for them.
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Donald J. Trump....is the best gift that ISIS could wish for....
ISIS and Trump.....win...both win by fomenting FEAR....and that is
why
Donald J. Trump is akin to Adolf Hitler ...who did the same...just to
be ....at the top...to be...what would be a Dictator....not anything else folks.
Donald ....Trump...the man who would be a King not a President...
Just how wonderful for one person...Trump and his Court...
ISIS....controls the world...when Trump Controls the USA...How "Great"
is this scenario..
Dwell on this demise of our Republic....and think about HOW Trump and
ISIS...succeed...by making us ....week with FEAR...
ISIS and Trump.....win...both win by fomenting FEAR....and that is
why
Donald J. Trump is akin to Adolf Hitler ...who did the same...just to
be ....at the top...to be...what would be a Dictator....not anything else folks.
Donald ....Trump...the man who would be a King not a President...
Just how wonderful for one person...Trump and his Court...
ISIS....controls the world...when Trump Controls the USA...How "Great"
is this scenario..
Dwell on this demise of our Republic....and think about HOW Trump and
ISIS...succeed...by making us ....week with FEAR...
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Trump may be a brash cartoon character but what I think the NYT Editorial Board crowd is missing is this: Frustrated people, who have for decades been promised that things will be different, only to see business as usual, are inclined to throw their support behind whatever appears to be their best chance to avoid that outcome.
After hearing about how transformative Obama would be etc. only to see a slightly tan GWB--with a penchant for social progress--in office for eight years, many Americans would rather get energized about a true outsider than another "I promise it will be different" career politico.
After hearing about how transformative Obama would be etc. only to see a slightly tan GWB--with a penchant for social progress--in office for eight years, many Americans would rather get energized about a true outsider than another "I promise it will be different" career politico.
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"To Democrats"... "To Hillary Clinton..." more like it.
Bernie has done more than Hillary by a landslide to openly denounce Trumps remarks time and time again-- spurring true movements, taking the voices of Americans (who are supporting Trump) seriously and not just giggling. Bernie hears the people, speaks for the people and doesn't giggle at opposing opinions, but truly ACTIVELY tries to combat them-- he's started a petition that he posts about often, and has been one of Trump's most adamant critics.
Please please please at least try and represent the Democratic party, and not just bias yourselves towards coverage of Hillary-- and if it's an article about Hillary, label it as such. Really disappointing coverage.
Bernie has done more than Hillary by a landslide to openly denounce Trumps remarks time and time again-- spurring true movements, taking the voices of Americans (who are supporting Trump) seriously and not just giggling. Bernie hears the people, speaks for the people and doesn't giggle at opposing opinions, but truly ACTIVELY tries to combat them-- he's started a petition that he posts about often, and has been one of Trump's most adamant critics.
Please please please at least try and represent the Democratic party, and not just bias yourselves towards coverage of Hillary-- and if it's an article about Hillary, label it as such. Really disappointing coverage.
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The dumbing of America is finally here.
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As far as I can tell the MSM; NYT, WaPo, etc.; refuse to bring up the fact that it was FDR who put Japanese Americans in internment camps and it was Jimmy Carter who stopped the immigration of Iranians and required Iranian here on student visas to report to the immigration authorities for possible deportation. OK, FDR was the 40's, but Jimmy Carter was the 70's; certainly not ancient history!
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Recently I saw an interview of Hillary by Charlie Rose, and that interview alone should convince any reasonable person that she is the best qualified candidate for the job. Her memory and mastery of names and groups was astounding. She knew who was doing what and why, and why this or that approach might fail or succeed. No, she doesn't have all the answers. NO one does, but she has the depth, unlike the clowns on the other side of the aisle who thinks it's all about threatening and beating their chests. The president of our country is not Attila the Hun, leading warriors into battle. The president is someone who has the good sense to know that you work mostly behind the curtains, with diplomacy and arm-twisting, and reasonable expectations of what you can do. We cannot bully the rest of the world, which the clowns just don't get. We live by cooperation or we die by conflict.
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This article describes the problem well. The left-wing "hand-wringing" worriers and complainers are always afraid. When someone proposes bold and much-needed real ideas, they squeal and scream. There are people that do and people that sit on the sidelines. Step aside, Mrs. Clinton. You have to make way for a real leader. Mr. Trump is a leader. Bravo.
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Canada is stead fast in fulfilling Baghdadis dream of conquering west in his life itself after enslaving the women and children (As MUhammaed did in Medina) . Turkey is sending the refugees (Erdogan is the god father of ISIS and knows whom to be loaded in the plane ). Us also is will sure to fulfill ISIS dream to destroy west at least at the time Baghdadis children/Grandchildren .The only obstruction to this dream is this undiplomatic man Trump ..But ISIS is happy ..The apologists and left will finish Trump and ISIS will be again on the top
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I'm not worried. She'll make up a new version of herself to address this latest development. She always has. Maybe she needs a new reset.
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And I'm still wondering why no one is talking about Trump's much ballyhooed (well, usually by him, anyway) "success."
How Ivanka, his first wife, was the iron fist in the velvet glove who turned his failing hotels around. How it rested on the court-appointed managers to save his "empire" -- notably after Ivanka left -- from the first of his bankruptcies. How his "wealth" is more debt and bluster and bragging than anything else.
If Trump is running on an image of success, why aren't people looking at the truth of that?
How Ivanka, his first wife, was the iron fist in the velvet glove who turned his failing hotels around. How it rested on the court-appointed managers to save his "empire" -- notably after Ivanka left -- from the first of his bankruptcies. How his "wealth" is more debt and bluster and bragging than anything else.
If Trump is running on an image of success, why aren't people looking at the truth of that?
Trump will be an issue for as long as the Clinton's deem it necessary. He is simply the shield for all derogatory media coverage, but will eventually bestow his supporters upon Hillary once the two have made amends, and Trump "endorses" Clinton by means of kind words and a "common agenda".
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Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the MOST QUALIFIED PERSON to be OUR next President of the United States and she has my vote along with my hope that she selects Senator Bernie Sanders as her STRONG Vice President and that he accepts. WE can restore democracy in America and put inherited-wealth, corporate welfare queens, blowhards and other BIG money democracy-destroyers back in their place in OUR society. They do not envision the America the vast majority of us want.
So the fact that she repeatedly and deliberately lied to you doesn't register at all?
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The position of president is not dissimilar from the position of a Governor. ..it's a CEO position.
Ms Clinton has no CEO experience at all...Senators don't run anything ...and State Department record is highly questionable , maybe even CRIMINAL...sorry but someone so deviant, untrustworthy is UNIQUELY UNQUALIFIED FOR RUNNING ANYTHING EXCEPT A JAIL CELL.
Ms Clinton has no CEO experience at all...Senators don't run anything ...and State Department record is highly questionable , maybe even CRIMINAL...sorry but someone so deviant, untrustworthy is UNIQUELY UNQUALIFIED FOR RUNNING ANYTHING EXCEPT A JAIL CELL.
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Trump's style of politics is not business as usual. His rhetoric is resonating to voters on both sides of the aisle and that is sending shockwaves throughout the conventional Political world. His six standard deviation from the mean style are a byproduct of the far right wing of the GOP that was hijacked by media entertainers disguising as political experts. Additionally, the qualification bar for a statesman was lowered when the GOP ran their past VP candidate. After 40 years as a registered republican and now a registered Independent voter, I can only say that we as a nation are in for an interesting, entertaining and thought provoking next 12 months.
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I am still laughing. Decades of dog whistles by GOP candidates is finally "actualized". It is fun to watch the Frankenstein they created wrecking the china shop.
Solution; completely ignore Trump and concentrate on developing detailed, fact, logic based policies. Trying to duel with him just feeds his ego and gets him the attention he craves. Paying attention to him only distracts from the real problems and the needs of the large majority of this country's citizens.
I don't know...this Democrat will laugh all the way to the polls as Clinton and Sanders are crushing Trump in gen election polls.
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The political ruling class has lost control of the national dialogue.
This is exactly what Obama did to the Republicans in 2008 and 2012, he drove the national dialog and all the Republicans could do is react. In 2012 this was done masterfully.
Now the tables have turned, and the Democrats have no clue what to do. They played the awesome free stuff for everyone card and it failed. They played soak the evil rich card and it failed. They played all the hate/racist cards, and they have all failed. They have played the stupid, ignorant card, and that has failed. All these tactics worked before, but not now.
If the Democrats cannot regain control of the national debate, they will lose. Without a new card in the playbook, I doubt if they can do this as liberals have unshakable faith in their ideology and go into a catatonic state when reality doesn't match the ideology.
If one the Republican candidates cannot regain control of the national debate, the GOP will loose. They won't be able to do this without upsetting their big contributors, so they will lose.
A Trump presidency means the establishment will lose, the special interests will lose, the ruling class and the elites will be dealt a serious blow, and we will have the real change Obama promised but failed to deliver.
He can't do worse than Bush or Obama, both of whom have failed to stop our decline.
This is exactly what Obama did to the Republicans in 2008 and 2012, he drove the national dialog and all the Republicans could do is react. In 2012 this was done masterfully.
Now the tables have turned, and the Democrats have no clue what to do. They played the awesome free stuff for everyone card and it failed. They played soak the evil rich card and it failed. They played all the hate/racist cards, and they have all failed. They have played the stupid, ignorant card, and that has failed. All these tactics worked before, but not now.
If the Democrats cannot regain control of the national debate, they will lose. Without a new card in the playbook, I doubt if they can do this as liberals have unshakable faith in their ideology and go into a catatonic state when reality doesn't match the ideology.
If one the Republican candidates cannot regain control of the national debate, the GOP will loose. They won't be able to do this without upsetting their big contributors, so they will lose.
A Trump presidency means the establishment will lose, the special interests will lose, the ruling class and the elites will be dealt a serious blow, and we will have the real change Obama promised but failed to deliver.
He can't do worse than Bush or Obama, both of whom have failed to stop our decline.
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Hillary: "I think it’s shameful for our country to have people running around to be president of the United States, saying these things, demonizing people.”
The new height of hypocrisy!! she's made a life demonizing those who disagree with her (including the Jennifer Flower, Paula Jones, to name a few.
Hillary is breathes this type of rhetoric.
The new height of hypocrisy!! she's made a life demonizing those who disagree with her (including the Jennifer Flower, Paula Jones, to name a few.
Hillary is breathes this type of rhetoric.
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Hillary will be in real trouble when she has to campaign against Trump. He'll speak his mind and no doubt will remind voters about her constant lines and incompetence. I look forward to the evisceration.
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Judging by many comments here and elsewhere, Trump at least serves to separate adults from that part of both parties, but chiefly Republicans, that wallow in fear (e.g. no, even the tragedy in California is not a WWII or Cuban Missile Crises), engage mistaken ideology (e.g. "government is the problem"), and have an apparent virtual hatred of President Obama (e.g. Obama created Middle Eastern chaos, the Arab Spring, the Syrian civil war, unemployment, national debt, etc.).
It's time to Man Up -- nominate The Donald, and let's see how it goes (I note that there's current talk about a brokered convention).
It's time to Man Up -- nominate The Donald, and let's see how it goes (I note that there's current talk about a brokered convention).
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Bernie is the most qualified candidate. Stop pushing "that woman" into our throats. Her record is dismal. Trump has said awful things about Muslims but "that woman" has done awful things to Muslims. Like destroying the Middle East. You can hear and react but you can't see and think and connect dots. Sad country not because of Trump but because of the people who fall on "that woman's" rhetoric about Trump.
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Destroyed the Middle East? You must be confusing Hillary with Condi Rice and George Dubya.
Supposed "reality television" gave us DT. He is so far removed from the "reality" most of us face every day that he should be led to the guillotine along with all the other BIG democracy-destroying money masters and their operatives in OUR governments at all levels. It's starting to look like it's them or us if we don't get out the socially conscious vote in the next elections.
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There are two questions I would like to ask the "reasonable" readers in the NYT.
1) Granted, as much terrorism is committed by male whites as by Muslim immigrants. But since these white males are citizens, deporting them is not an option. Do we want crimes committed by immigrant terrorists IN ADDITION to terrorism committed by male whites? I do not see how male white terrorism is relevant unless it is just a matter of where we throw rocks.
We can do something about immigration and it is harder to do something about citizens.
2) Granted that Bush made a terrible mistake when he invaded Iraq. But the recent dysfunction in Libya and Syria has been caused by Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton and WITHOUT USING US TROOPS. Please explain to me why Bush's invasion of Iraq means that the actions of Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are somehow OK.
In both cases, people seem not to grasp the point that two problems are worse than just one. If there is white male terrorism it does NOT follow that we should do nothing about Islamic terrorism. And if Bush made mistakes, it does NOT follow that we excuse mistakes made by Obama.
I hope there are rational readers who will respond to these questions, preferably offering more light than heat.
Indeed it would be great to have a real discussion rather than partisan attacks.
1) Granted, as much terrorism is committed by male whites as by Muslim immigrants. But since these white males are citizens, deporting them is not an option. Do we want crimes committed by immigrant terrorists IN ADDITION to terrorism committed by male whites? I do not see how male white terrorism is relevant unless it is just a matter of where we throw rocks.
We can do something about immigration and it is harder to do something about citizens.
2) Granted that Bush made a terrible mistake when he invaded Iraq. But the recent dysfunction in Libya and Syria has been caused by Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton and WITHOUT USING US TROOPS. Please explain to me why Bush's invasion of Iraq means that the actions of Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are somehow OK.
In both cases, people seem not to grasp the point that two problems are worse than just one. If there is white male terrorism it does NOT follow that we should do nothing about Islamic terrorism. And if Bush made mistakes, it does NOT follow that we excuse mistakes made by Obama.
I hope there are rational readers who will respond to these questions, preferably offering more light than heat.
Indeed it would be great to have a real discussion rather than partisan attacks.
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OK, Here ya go.
1. Nobody is opposed to deporting immigrant terrorists. I can't imagine anyone who is in favor of letting immigrant terrorists onto the country. What us rational readers are in favor of is giving refuge to people who's lives are in danger because of what is going on around them beyond their control. Remember, the refugees are the people who DON'T want to live in those kinds of countries.
2. Which actions by "Clinton" and "Obama" caused the Syrian civil war? Which actions by "Clinton" and "Obama" caused anything to happen in Libya that wasn't already happening? In order to have a rational conversation you have to start with premises that make sense.
1. Nobody is opposed to deporting immigrant terrorists. I can't imagine anyone who is in favor of letting immigrant terrorists onto the country. What us rational readers are in favor of is giving refuge to people who's lives are in danger because of what is going on around them beyond their control. Remember, the refugees are the people who DON'T want to live in those kinds of countries.
2. Which actions by "Clinton" and "Obama" caused the Syrian civil war? Which actions by "Clinton" and "Obama" caused anything to happen in Libya that wasn't already happening? In order to have a rational conversation you have to start with premises that make sense.
Trump followers are not a one size fits all. There are the:
1. he doesn't talk down to me
2. he is his own man, he doesn't take Super PAC money
3. he is authentic and not politically correct
but he has the:
4. birthers...people who believe the misinformation about President Obama's birth in Hawaii, the president's right, a man born to an American citizen, to be an American citizen, and the folks who don't like Presient Obama's Christian preacher while still believing he is a Muslim.
5. anti-immigration folks
6. fear of the others
Trump is very effective in engaging the audience. He tells them that they are smart and the media are a bunch of creeps. He has appeal to all of the people who belong to one of those groups listed above plus others.
I am the same age as The Donald and also grew up in Queens but without the limo. When I hear Trump talk I hear a scam artist. Trump's whole bogus expose on investigating President Obama's birth certificate was enough to make my skin crawl. But he is great at manipulating the media, the GOP, investors and even banks. Trump has told us that he is : smarter than the generals, smarter than everyone in Washington, smarter than economists, scientists, historians, journalists and all the world's diplomats but he is not an elitist. He is just an authentic billionaire who gets mis-quoted. I wish I could ignore him but to do so woud be foolish. everyone needs to watch their back when Trump is being Trump.
1. he doesn't talk down to me
2. he is his own man, he doesn't take Super PAC money
3. he is authentic and not politically correct
but he has the:
4. birthers...people who believe the misinformation about President Obama's birth in Hawaii, the president's right, a man born to an American citizen, to be an American citizen, and the folks who don't like Presient Obama's Christian preacher while still believing he is a Muslim.
5. anti-immigration folks
6. fear of the others
Trump is very effective in engaging the audience. He tells them that they are smart and the media are a bunch of creeps. He has appeal to all of the people who belong to one of those groups listed above plus others.
I am the same age as The Donald and also grew up in Queens but without the limo. When I hear Trump talk I hear a scam artist. Trump's whole bogus expose on investigating President Obama's birth certificate was enough to make my skin crawl. But he is great at manipulating the media, the GOP, investors and even banks. Trump has told us that he is : smarter than the generals, smarter than everyone in Washington, smarter than economists, scientists, historians, journalists and all the world's diplomats but he is not an elitist. He is just an authentic billionaire who gets mis-quoted. I wish I could ignore him but to do so woud be foolish. everyone needs to watch their back when Trump is being Trump.
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In a campaign cycle where over the top rhetoric is king, every GOP candidate is all “what” and no “how”. It is no surprise that Mr. Trump is leading, he doesn’t need to worry about backers that must be consulted and coddled because it is their money and not the candidate’s. When the campaign is over Mr. Trump will have his money (but hopefully not the presidency). But even if he does win, can anyone imagine how he will deal with the other branches of government or foreign powers. This is not a TV show where he can just “fire” those he doesn’t like.
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Surprised to see so many comments from the right-wingers! Wasn't sure you guys knew how to read!
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Yep, the Dems are scared. If they weren't, they'd keep their mouths shut and let The Donald be drawn in for the kill. Instead, they (like the Rhino Repubs) are berating him, hoping that they won't have to face him. Good luck with that.
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It's fascinating listening to all of the Trump detractors completely baffled by the Trump phenomenon. He's untouchable, and they can't stop it. How incredibly frustrating that must be.
Every effort to derail him, whether by liberals, establishment Republicans or the main stream media, only seems to strengthen him. They're flailing around like fish on dry land. (This is highly entertaining theatre.)
I'm seeing passion for Trump from moderate friends and colleagues — people who voted for Obama once or twice! I think Trump's support runs far deeper than anyone realizes, certainly higher than the 35% poll out yesterday.
Every effort to derail him, whether by liberals, establishment Republicans or the main stream media, only seems to strengthen him. They're flailing around like fish on dry land. (This is highly entertaining theatre.)
I'm seeing passion for Trump from moderate friends and colleagues — people who voted for Obama once or twice! I think Trump's support runs far deeper than anyone realizes, certainly higher than the 35% poll out yesterday.
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Does Hillary Clinton worry about Trump's polling lead?
A look at the polls from the past three presidential elections offers little to excite this wannabe. None of those leading in the polls this far ahead of the election ended up winning their party’s nomination. Even if Trump can turn this support in the polls into votes and get nominated, he will hardly be elected. But another spectacular attack by Islamists could spook Americans enough to vote for this fear-monger. Let's hope it won't happen and that Americans have more common sense.
A look at the polls from the past three presidential elections offers little to excite this wannabe. None of those leading in the polls this far ahead of the election ended up winning their party’s nomination. Even if Trump can turn this support in the polls into votes and get nominated, he will hardly be elected. But another spectacular attack by Islamists could spook Americans enough to vote for this fear-monger. Let's hope it won't happen and that Americans have more common sense.
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The Democrats will fail if they continue to play identity politics. That is in which all special interest groups get "priority" rights and funding over the needs of the larger middle class, and small business.
If they can't stop talking and pandering to illegal immigrants, bad trade deals that kill American jobs, ignore the veterans problems with getting doctor appointments, getting outraged about the PC treatment of the San Bernadino killers and their cohorts rather than the nation's safety, they will lose the election.
Donald Trump did introduce and has a reasonable position on these issues. Democrats need to not only not laugh at DT but they need to formulate policies that will make their constituents lives better and safer - and make them convincingly. With Hillary all but anointed as the candidate, I doubt anyone will believe her, even if she changes her policies.
If they can't stop talking and pandering to illegal immigrants, bad trade deals that kill American jobs, ignore the veterans problems with getting doctor appointments, getting outraged about the PC treatment of the San Bernadino killers and their cohorts rather than the nation's safety, they will lose the election.
Donald Trump did introduce and has a reasonable position on these issues. Democrats need to not only not laugh at DT but they need to formulate policies that will make their constituents lives better and safer - and make them convincingly. With Hillary all but anointed as the candidate, I doubt anyone will believe her, even if she changes her policies.
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I vote republican, I'm not a Trump supporter but I understand his appeal to a vast electorate. He does say what real people think and say to their families and friends, not the west or east coast people but many many people in the center. Arrogance would lead many to dismiss him, that may not be a smart thing to do. I will vote for the libertarian candidate as I could never vote for Hillary she is way too corrupt, and Trump is way over the top. I have no party anymore.
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To some writers below Donald Trump, a bigoted, lying, immoral charlatan is acceptable because of critiques of the status quo. No. His venomous hatred is not welcome anytime, anyplace, under any circumstances. Those who dare draw false equivalencies with Hillary or Obama should look within. Sad & dangerous thinking.
Donald Trump is no laughing matter because is the only candidate that can say anything without the politically correctness veil and that's powerful. Going the opposite direction trying to be moderate and "better than you" just makes him stronger...Better start take him seriously, or the clown will become the ring master.
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Hillary Clinton is just not electable, even against Trump. When all her Wall Street connections, blunders in foreign policy and penchant for flipflopping are really brought out in a very ugly way by the Republican nominee, Independent voters will vote against her.
In the meantime many progressive Democrats disgusted by the dirty tactics being used against Senator Sanders will stay home, especially in those states where Republican state governments have made it difficult to vote. And Trump will bring to the voting booth a whole collection of far right-wingers who do not normally vote.
At this very tumultuous time in history, a carefully arranged corrupt opportunist like Clinton will not beat some "strong" leader who "tells it like it is." The only way to avert this disaster, is to nominate and elect a strong authenticate leader, Bernie Sanders who will bring to the polls many progressives and others who would never come out just to vote for Clinton.
In the meantime many progressive Democrats disgusted by the dirty tactics being used against Senator Sanders will stay home, especially in those states where Republican state governments have made it difficult to vote. And Trump will bring to the voting booth a whole collection of far right-wingers who do not normally vote.
At this very tumultuous time in history, a carefully arranged corrupt opportunist like Clinton will not beat some "strong" leader who "tells it like it is." The only way to avert this disaster, is to nominate and elect a strong authenticate leader, Bernie Sanders who will bring to the polls many progressives and others who would never come out just to vote for Clinton.
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It's laughable to read any of Hillary's comments. She takes so many positions on everything, that any given day she is against something while being for it.
As the majority of Americans feel increasingly threatened by radical Muslims, Hillary's position on immigration will once again "reset." Count on it.
As the majority of Americans feel increasingly threatened by radical Muslims, Hillary's position on immigration will once again "reset." Count on it.
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There has always been evil in the world but it most emphatically cannot be defined by race, religion or ethnicity. So faced with evil and gripped with fear, there are those who embrace the light and those who fall prey to the dark side. Maybe, we all should make a practice of taking a step back and thinking long and hard which we are going to choose and what will be the consequences of our decision. Life is a struggle and for all too many there is much pain and suffering. I don't think you will find one example where someone who moved to the dark side became a better, stronger, and more healthy person.
While I appreciate the relatively high level of civility and thought here, the NYT discussion boards are an example of laughing at the masses. You can put a liberal spin on Trump's popularity - our leaders have failed to give us health care, and income equality, and so on - but that's completely ignoring where Trump's support comes from. If you're a typical NYT reader, their concerns are not your concerns. But that doesn't mean they're less valid than your concerns. The tendency among liberals to dismiss right-wing concerns as based on ignorance and stupidity is a big reason why Trump is so popular.
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Ignore him. Candidates should talk about their plans and philosophies. Negative campaigning only works when the opponent is not proud of his opinions. Mr. Trump is no different than many with his opinions, he is just more honest and willing to say the real words instead of the "code" words. Every Republican candidate is upset because he says he would temporarily ban Muslims while they are saying that they won't allow women and children who are refugees from war and have gone through a two year vetting process. Mr. Trump is more honest. That is why he is rising in the polls. The Democrats would never win those votes anyway.
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It is not only DT who has changed the game. It is the tragic events in Paris, Mali, FT. Hood and now SB that will force all politicians to the right. Why have cooler heads, who should prevail in such a crisis, not done so by proposing a "juste milieu," which would be to pack asylum shoppers off to Trucial States, until they can be competently vetted, unlike the ongoing fiasco at our southern border where, according to primary sources, anyone can walk across w/o so much as a bye your leave.Friedman's craven response to questioner in Kuwait is pertinent. He vilified a fellow American outside of our borders in order to ingratiate himself to his audience, and failed to ask them why Kuwait was not doing its share to shoulder the burden of taking in the migrants. Assumption is he did not want to jeopardize his high speaking fee, and chance to return for other lectures there. Bref, Syrian migrants should be admitted on a piecemeal basis, and only when the first group has been assimilated should others gain entry:a common sense approach that should offend no one except ideologues in the WH.
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Recent polls address Americans fear of terrorism. How much of that fear is stoked by demagogues like Trump? That doesn't seem to get addressed in the polls. As children we were often told the story of the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" and "Chicken Little". There were sound reasons for learning those stories. It would seem many Americans never heard them or have lost site of the meaning of those stories. Obviously the other GOP candidates fear criticizing Trump and the mythical base of the GOP. However, that doesn't mean the Democratic candidates cannot take the high road along with the President. The last thing we need right now is a rash of jingoistic clap trap. We need calm reason and assurance that the terrorist threat exists, the limitations of it and the steps we can take to combat it. Most importantly we need to tone down the inflammatory rhetoric. Senator McCarthy finally got called out when asked if he had "...no sense of decency". At this point in time it is questionable if that would phase Trump for he has no sense of decency or concern for the well being of the country. He sounds like an opera singer warming up "ME, ME, ME, ME...." and it goes on and on.
Ok one more time, yes and the GREAT FDR put Japanese Americans in camps when we went to war with them too, It was called commonsense back then, Trump has it and it would seem everyone else has none! They (The Terrorist) have declared war on us just like the Japanese did and what do think FDR would do if he was here?
We are NOT at war with ISLAM or Moslems. We are at war with Terrorists or will be if Congress ever passes a resolution stating as such. What we did during WWII was wrong and has been acknowledged many times over to include belated reparations.
All Secretary Clinton has to do to find the source of Trump's increasing popularity is to tune in to her local FOX channel. They excel at promoting the politics of fear, anxiety and most importantly xenophobia. Buy a TV, turn it on anywhere in the country with no cable subscription and there it is. They've saturated every market in the country and it's free.
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People who live in glass houses... While crude, Trump is refreshingly honest, and, I would guess, as a non-politician, is well aware of the true meaning of what he says and does. Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, has a true politician's view of the World. She essentially simply ignores some enormous mistakes and flaws which are her sole responsibility. Her use of a private email server creating potential National security risks, for no other reason than personal convenience, would be one. Even more troubling is the recent story that is apparently fully documented that she used her influence to set up a meeting with representatives of the State Department and the hedge fund which had hired her son in law. I would note that this exact behavior has been the subject of Justice Department prosecution in the recent case of JP Morgan hiring of a son of a political official in China. Why isn't Hillary both being challenged on this, and, in fact, challenging herself. Sorry but in this election Trump's honesty, even if harsh and crude, seems to be touching a very raw American voter nerve.
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Am I the only one who's now reminded of "A Face in the Crowd," that dark and stellar film adaptation of the Budd Schulberg novel about a plain-spoken, self-important rabblerouser who becomes a media sensation while all the while manipulating the public?
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Now and only now are you beginning to understand how much America despises liberalism. You have only just begun to perceive of a threat to your control over government. After 8 years of ObamaFail, of you having your way, you have done more to educate America than any conservative could have done. Just being yourselves was all that was required, America rejects you.
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A lot of these comments question how anyone can support Trump and play into his fear. Trumps supporters don't like him just because of his fear mongering, they like him because his rhetoric is easy to follow and Trump is very skilled at convincing the disenfranchised their problems are because of *them (Mexicans or Muslims so far). SO, what Hillary needs to do is look at history. When is the last time the middle class was obliterated and disenfranchised? Follow the steps of the greatest communicator of all time in FDR. Stop talking about how awful your competitor is and start connecting with the middle class using some of that toned down simple rhetoric. FDR once asked everyone to buy a map so he could explain the long fight ahead. Hillary needs to do the same.
I am not a student of history but I can read reliable accounts about how Adolf Hitler rose to power in the 1920s and 30s. His rhetorical skills, the books he wrote, the anger, frustration and fear he tapped into. There are clearly differences between Hitler, Hitler's Germany and the two top GOP candidates and the U.S. But Hitler honed his propaganda without regard to the truth, played on the nation's desire to be great again, singled out a religious group for persecution and cowed his opponents. And he did all this in the context of a highly sophisticated and advanced country and society.
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yes and the GREAT FDR put Japanese Americans in camps when we went to war with them too, It was called commonsense back then, Trump has it and it would seem everyone else has none!
I have been thinking the same. How dangerous to underestimate the hopelessness of the shrinking middle class.
There is one outstanding candidate who is changing the paradigm for running for president, and shaking traditional presidential politics to its core. Not Trump, but Bernie Sanders. He is by far the more interesting and significant of the two candidates. Yet he is being virtually ignored by the media while the media gives nauseating amounts of coverage to Trump. Is the over-coverage of Trump by the media being engaged in for the purpose of blacking out coverage of Sanders?
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I think the idea for Democrats of tabling the laughter and sneering at fearful masses huddling to the right is prudent. As Blow said the other day. Trump has mainstreamed the 'marginalized and the mocked.' Hillary at least acknowledging the emotions of those people opens up the chance that she can reach them and lead them. Remember that a large part of electoral victory is visceral not intellectual and as Democrats we can often be too smart aleck for our own good. As in thank you Nader for allowing the team to get in that gave us the Iraq War. Yup.
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The idea that Donald Trump now interprets the internment of Japanese-, German- and Italian-Americans as a positive response to the state of war that existed at the time is a chilling reality. The internment of American-born Muslims and their relatives now living in America "is only a shot away," as they say, from his proposed policy, so popular with the fearful, of keeping all Muslims out of the country. All Americans should be as afraid of THAT as they are of the crazed religious fanatics in their midst.
"Trump's outlandish proposals." What a label for patriotism, Love for your country.
The Government has over spent, and no one really knows where all of it is going. We have a bloated healthcare system that is not even close to what was promised. The American people are sick and tired of being lied to. President Obama has divided the country racially, gender, economic classes, religion. A divided country will fall, and we are falling. President Obama has imported foreign nationals, paid for their housing, Healthcare, food, with social security dollars. This should be illegal. The Taxes are paying for foreign nationals to compete for the jobs that Americans once worked. We are going to train, educate for free the tens of thousands of so called "Refugees" for what? This does nothing but hurt the American Worker as H1b Visa workers flood the country to take more jobs from Americans. We have been betrayed by our own Government pandering to corporate task masters.
This is why Trump will win! Because the betrayed Legal tax paying Americans have had enough to the Liberal lies and deceit. We have had enough of career politicians on the Republican side lie to us. Trump is telling it like it is, and if he is not elected, we will no longer be a free nation.
The Government has over spent, and no one really knows where all of it is going. We have a bloated healthcare system that is not even close to what was promised. The American people are sick and tired of being lied to. President Obama has divided the country racially, gender, economic classes, religion. A divided country will fall, and we are falling. President Obama has imported foreign nationals, paid for their housing, Healthcare, food, with social security dollars. This should be illegal. The Taxes are paying for foreign nationals to compete for the jobs that Americans once worked. We are going to train, educate for free the tens of thousands of so called "Refugees" for what? This does nothing but hurt the American Worker as H1b Visa workers flood the country to take more jobs from Americans. We have been betrayed by our own Government pandering to corporate task masters.
This is why Trump will win! Because the betrayed Legal tax paying Americans have had enough to the Liberal lies and deceit. We have had enough of career politicians on the Republican side lie to us. Trump is telling it like it is, and if he is not elected, we will no longer be a free nation.
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Clinton is too docile unlike Trump. She is playing constant defense with virtually non-existent offense. You still have to score points to win a game.
The thought crossed my mind that Trumps bigotry towards Muslims and all the publicity surrounding it might have instigated the San Bernardino attack.
I think N.B.C. created a monster.
The thought crossed my mind that Trumps bigotry towards Muslims and all the publicity surrounding it might have instigated the San Bernardino attack.
I think N.B.C. created a monster.
Small detail I know...
but the planning of the San Bernardino attack ( the husband Farook) was started in 2012....
2012 was 3 years ago... before Trump's remark on Monday, but more importantly before ISIS was even formed.
but the planning of the San Bernardino attack ( the husband Farook) was started in 2012....
2012 was 3 years ago... before Trump's remark on Monday, but more importantly before ISIS was even formed.
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The Times is apparently "befuddled" as to how a populist demagogue could remain atop the polls and even gain support after making such racist remarks.
Some reporters, it seems, know nothing of America other than NYC and DC.
As such, they don't recognize how decades of substandard education has left America with a sizable portion of the electorate that is ignorant and easily misled.
Some reporters, it seems, know nothing of America other than NYC and DC.
As such, they don't recognize how decades of substandard education has left America with a sizable portion of the electorate that is ignorant and easily misled.
So it's Trump because of fear, or fear of Trump. There are so many things one shouldn't do in conjunction with fear, and one of them is voting (others might include handling weapons, piloting a plane, brain surgery, or teaching young children).
Trump is neither as stupid as Reagan or GW, as paranoid as Nixon, or as clumsy as Carter. He's not imbedded in the military-industrial complex like Cheney-Rumsfeld, an empty shell like Romney, nor a religious nutcase like Carson, Huckabee, Santorum, Backmann.
He's a tin-horn combover neo-Fascist businessman mirroring Berlusconi but admiring Putin. We should thank him for bringing out in the open the half-wit, frightened, latent racist strain of American white Christian, who are less than 20% of our country. The other 80% are young people, women, minorities, and thoughtful, less fearful, rational people of all religions who would never vote for him.
Trump is neither as stupid as Reagan or GW, as paranoid as Nixon, or as clumsy as Carter. He's not imbedded in the military-industrial complex like Cheney-Rumsfeld, an empty shell like Romney, nor a religious nutcase like Carson, Huckabee, Santorum, Backmann.
He's a tin-horn combover neo-Fascist businessman mirroring Berlusconi but admiring Putin. We should thank him for bringing out in the open the half-wit, frightened, latent racist strain of American white Christian, who are less than 20% of our country. The other 80% are young people, women, minorities, and thoughtful, less fearful, rational people of all religions who would never vote for him.
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This just goes to show people that the current politicians are out of touch with the citizens that put them in office. Trump is saying what most of the electorate are thinking and this shines a new light on just how much the people of this country want change. Let return to the original concept of "govern by the people for the people" and do away with the "Electoral College" to determine who governs. Popular vote should rule and determine the leadership of this country!
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I still can't believe that Donald Trump actually wants the job of President, which involves a high degree of networking and attention to procedure. His comments seem to come from someone who envisions himself as a dictator or CEO, who can put forth an idea which his minions will implement without question or be fired. As a wealthy scion, he seems to believe he will be all-powerful in that job - but in actuality, not so much.
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The bumper sticker slogan invites the corresponding arrangement of words
"Trump Loves Hate" which also rings true.
"Trump Loves Hate" which also rings true.
Many people have called on the Muslim community to take a stand against the maddest terrorist organization and this article in today's Huffington Post online shows that peaceful Muslims ARE taking action. 70,000 Muslim clerics in Asia have declared "fatwa" against mass-murdering, drug-crazed, psychotic terrorist groups and other peaceful Muslims around the world are speaking out to disavow terrorists. More will follow. Muslim haters and other fear/anger/hate mongers can shut up now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-clerics-condemn-terrorism_566...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/muslim-clerics-condemn-terrorism_566...
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This is a good start that will hopefully continue with Muslim clerics in Europe and the US. There are many good people who have nothing against Muslims, who are legitimately afraid and want to see Muslims take a stronger stand against Islamic extremism. This is perfectly understandable and fair.
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Sadly, sometimes the only thing a bully understands is a punch in the mouth. At some point, Democrats need to learn how to apply the metaphorical punch. Democrats have lacked this skill for a long time and certainly need it now to deal with Trump. Unfortunately, taking the high road occasionally leads to nowhere.
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But, somehow he still manages to do funny things. As I watched in utter dismay his absurd speech on Monday night, he did something so Trump, so unconsciously ego driven and unaware, some little aside gesture which said so much more of his need to laud himself than he'd ever be aware of, and I started to laugh at how needful and ridiculous everything he does is.
That's our problem with Trump. He's just close enough to a Chaplinesque Hitler that even at his worst, even as he threatens the stability of the world he remains laughable.
That's our problem with Trump. He's just close enough to a Chaplinesque Hitler that even at his worst, even as he threatens the stability of the world he remains laughable.
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While Mr Trumps Poll numbers strengthen the Medias importance has diminished. Mrs Clinton and the host of Republican Presidential Candidates are beginning to feel the pain.
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Expect a third party candidate named Donald j. Trump.
The only thing I still laugh about is how the GOP has nurtured and fed this ideology for years on Fox and friends, oreilly, etc, and now they can't handle that their creation is out of their control.
The only thing I still laugh about is how the GOP has nurtured and fed this ideology for years on Fox and friends, oreilly, etc, and now they can't handle that their creation is out of their control.
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Mrs. Clinton says, "......O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?", and then you realize that she's befuddled by the realization that there is Radical Islamic Terrorism and that it wasn't caused by a video. She knows full well that we are in an asymetrical war due largely to failed political policies and that letting these policies continue will have dire consequences. Point the finger at whomever you wish, but the inescapable truth is that the destabilization of the Middle East in the last eight years portends to be the most reckless and apocalyptic foreign policy ever invested in by this nation.
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Fear is a greater motivator than sympathy, but Clinton cannot discuss this issue in a rational fashion. By engaging Trump in a rational conversation, Clinton would expose the failure and censorship of western appeasement.
Western media has been “silent, cowardly and complicit” with the persecution of Syrian Christians. “This is the result of foolish politics and of a conspiracy, under the pretext of bringing democracy to the region”. “When we maintain a firm stand against these phenomena, [militia, terrorism and Islamic parities], then the West accuses us of being dictatorial.”—Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Youman, head of the Syrian Catholic Church, November 18, 2015
Now what were was the western media saying about Trump?
Western media has been “silent, cowardly and complicit” with the persecution of Syrian Christians. “This is the result of foolish politics and of a conspiracy, under the pretext of bringing democracy to the region”. “When we maintain a firm stand against these phenomena, [militia, terrorism and Islamic parities], then the West accuses us of being dictatorial.”—Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Youman, head of the Syrian Catholic Church, November 18, 2015
Now what were was the western media saying about Trump?
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I'm not sure that the class warfare language of Clinton and Warren and Sanders is much different than what Trump says. Clinton et al. vilify a whole class of American citizens (the ones who pay 62% of the entire cost of the government), and that vilification is permanent.
Trump, if he were less wacko, makes a basic point that we should be in a position to vet incoming immigrants from cultures that are at war with us. Jimmy Carter did the exact same thing when he banned all Iranians from entry in 1980 and ordered that Iranian student visas be suspended.
Trump, if he were less wacko, makes a basic point that we should be in a position to vet incoming immigrants from cultures that are at war with us. Jimmy Carter did the exact same thing when he banned all Iranians from entry in 1980 and ordered that Iranian student visas be suspended.
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Class Warfare? How about denigrating half the country....
Clinton, remarking on the enemies she is most proud to have made: "Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians. ... Probably the Republicans."
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Clinton, remarking on the enemies she is most proud to have made: "Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians. ... Probably the Republicans."
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Clinton does not have the stamina alone to beat Trump. She is tired now, can you imagine going head to head with Trump's seemingly unlimited energy?
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Clinton's instinct to triangulate is bound to lead her to respond to Trump in exactly the wrong way.
Trump is a fascist. Or at least close enough. You don't break the spell of a bully like him by splitting the difference between agreeing with those who hate him and pandering to those who love him. You break it by standing up to him, by calling him out and by taking the fight to him and his hardcore supporters, by going forcefully onto the attack.
I am not speaking figuratively. Trump rallies should be treated the same way Klan or Nazi rallies rallies are, only more so because he represents a much more serious fascist threat than they do. They should be made dangerous by counter-protests that aren't afraid to mix it up. A few good brawls will cause his softer support to peel away quickly. Venues that let him speak should be targeted with boycotts and other forms of protest that hit the pockets of their owners. Trump needs to be made into a pariah. Clinton doesn't have the stuff to lead such a fight, but someone should and should do so quickly.
Trump is a fascist. Or at least close enough. You don't break the spell of a bully like him by splitting the difference between agreeing with those who hate him and pandering to those who love him. You break it by standing up to him, by calling him out and by taking the fight to him and his hardcore supporters, by going forcefully onto the attack.
I am not speaking figuratively. Trump rallies should be treated the same way Klan or Nazi rallies rallies are, only more so because he represents a much more serious fascist threat than they do. They should be made dangerous by counter-protests that aren't afraid to mix it up. A few good brawls will cause his softer support to peel away quickly. Venues that let him speak should be targeted with boycotts and other forms of protest that hit the pockets of their owners. Trump needs to be made into a pariah. Clinton doesn't have the stuff to lead such a fight, but someone should and should do so quickly.
Ultimately, Obama’s problem is that he lacks a coherent foreign policy. He is overly fond of theorising, but the hard worldly realities defy his attempts to resolve the messy issues on his desk.
And his foreign policy doctrine is unprecedented in modern America, somewhat arbitrary, ill-conceived, and utterly lacking in moral clarity. More and more, it appears he has reverse engineered a foreign policy, based primarily on doing the opposite of George W. Bush did, as opposed to overtly crafting a wise and coherent foreign policy strategy going forward.
Unfortunately for him, he now faces very serious challenges having to do with his fundamentally having no plan and a never-ending cascade of embarrassments and scandals.
And his foreign policy doctrine is unprecedented in modern America, somewhat arbitrary, ill-conceived, and utterly lacking in moral clarity. More and more, it appears he has reverse engineered a foreign policy, based primarily on doing the opposite of George W. Bush did, as opposed to overtly crafting a wise and coherent foreign policy strategy going forward.
Unfortunately for him, he now faces very serious challenges having to do with his fundamentally having no plan and a never-ending cascade of embarrassments and scandals.
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White men have seen their income decline roughly 20% over the last 30 years. Over that same period 15 million illegal immigrants have come to reside here.
For that group (and often their spouse), the democratic party's seeming support for illegal nonvoting citizens interests over theirs is a no-brainer.
Some in that group recognize that the republican party's bash the poor, anti-union and favoritism for the rich approach is problematic also, but the republican rhetoric on the stump is far more comforting.
For that group (and often their spouse), the democratic party's seeming support for illegal nonvoting citizens interests over theirs is a no-brainer.
Some in that group recognize that the republican party's bash the poor, anti-union and favoritism for the rich approach is problematic also, but the republican rhetoric on the stump is far more comforting.
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It's like Gore v. Dubya Bush in 2000. Don't make those mistakes (whatever they were. It possibly shouldn't have been so close.) These guys (and gal) are Republican phenomena: Reagan, Quayle, Dubya, Palin, Trump. They looked almost inconceivable at the time, but three of them won. For whatever reason, this is what the American electorate are capable of. We could wake up Wednesday morning, November 9, 2016 and guess what?
Trump is correct. The efforts of France and England now to keep trouble makers out of each nation is akin to closing the barn door after the mule got out. It is not too late for my nation, yet.
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We all know what would happen if there was a national vote to tighten our visitation and immigration criteria a little bit. It's a no brainer. David Axelrod says the elites don't understand the phenomenon, but he knows that's not true. Everybody understands it. What mainstreamers don't understand is how to address a population that has been economically disenfranchised. Greed, hubris, and the lopsided policies of previous Democratic and Republican administrations have brought us here. As far as culture wars go, the pendulum is swinging back toward bigotry at a very inconvenient time. But be honest -- it had to happen eventually given the absurd outcomes of a lot of well-intentioned but illogical liberal values.
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I like that this story was written in Waterloo.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
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I wish someone would come out and say - yes, people are afraid. Everyday - a huge percentage of our population is afraid they won't have a job - good-paying jobs for the middle class are rapidly disappearing, people worry about the cost of sending their kids to college, the cost of healthcare is still exorbitant, many people who lost their homes in 2008 have still not rebounded, and there is the knowledge that many of the new jobs added to the economy do not pay well. The middle class is on the verge of extinction and they know it....so, let's blame the Mexicans and Muslims. Rather than either political party coming with plans to tackle the ever increasing disparity between the haves and have-nots - it is far easier to stoke fears about the "other" . Trump is no laughing matter - he has managed to tap into the psyche of many Americans. Calling him names, rather than coming up ways to assuage these fears is no help to anyone. I just want someone to say: "He has his opinion, I don't agree with it, people are fearful, and here is what I think needs to happen to fix those fears."
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"“He’s speaking to something that they’re just getting their arms around.”"
What that something is the public knows it has been lied to by not just Republicans, but also by a spineless Democratic party, and lied to in order to shift power and economics from the many to the few. People understand this in their guts. They may articulate it in ludicrous ways, but they know they've been taken by both parties in order to deliver to the plutocrats a plutocracy. Just because the GOP's lies are in-your-face, over-the-top transparent at this point doesn't mean the Democrats' pathetic cowardice for two generations in giving in to the plutocrats and failed conservative economics is significantly better.
It just isn't that complicated. Unless, of course, if you happen to be a part of the self-serving corporate media or self-serving political parties. Each of you have destroyed a country.
What that something is the public knows it has been lied to by not just Republicans, but also by a spineless Democratic party, and lied to in order to shift power and economics from the many to the few. People understand this in their guts. They may articulate it in ludicrous ways, but they know they've been taken by both parties in order to deliver to the plutocrats a plutocracy. Just because the GOP's lies are in-your-face, over-the-top transparent at this point doesn't mean the Democrats' pathetic cowardice for two generations in giving in to the plutocrats and failed conservative economics is significantly better.
It just isn't that complicated. Unless, of course, if you happen to be a part of the self-serving corporate media or self-serving political parties. Each of you have destroyed a country.
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There's a documentary on Youtube called "The Clinton Cronicles" I reccomend EVERYBODY watch it, very insightful, it goes in depth into the Clinton years and what they are capable of. It's not a hit peice nor was it written by a right-winger, in fact, many who are in this documentary were Clinton's own people, at least the ones who lived to tell about it. Many very respected people appear in the video. This video goes all the way from "Whitewater" the real estate Ponzi Scheme in which they bilked millions off of unsuspecting retirees to their backroom deals with the Chinese who litterally bought and paid for access to them while in the WH. Very tellig, a must see. Hillary might claim to be a hero for Women but in reality she is nothing but a liar and a monster.
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I agree Trump, despite the favor he did all of us, exposing the Republican candidates for what they really are, Frauds, leaves us with an extremely uncertain choice. To vote for Trump is to vote for more uncertainty. Can he actually govern? Will his so called party work with him? Will we have the complete tear down of social safety nets his so called party wants? Will anyone be punished for destroying the economy in 2008-2010? Will anyone be jailed for starting two unfunded wars and attempting to give what was left of our Treasury to his followers?
Lots of questions, no answers
President Obama, I think truly tried to appease Republicans by not going after Bush 43, Cheney and Wall Street after he was elected, instead choosing to deal with the aftermath alone....they attacked him instead, spending the next 8 yrs chasing him down, not governing, and his weaknesses are open for all to see. His party did little to help, both parties hindered by near unlimited funding from outsiders who are now calling the shots.
Trump appears to be above the money fray, but his uncertain ways cannot mean a positive future for everyone, its will be every man for himself even more than ever....
Lots of questions, no answers
President Obama, I think truly tried to appease Republicans by not going after Bush 43, Cheney and Wall Street after he was elected, instead choosing to deal with the aftermath alone....they attacked him instead, spending the next 8 yrs chasing him down, not governing, and his weaknesses are open for all to see. His party did little to help, both parties hindered by near unlimited funding from outsiders who are now calling the shots.
Trump appears to be above the money fray, but his uncertain ways cannot mean a positive future for everyone, its will be every man for himself even more than ever....
Handle Trump? You can't and don't. Simply acknowledge the fact that there are significant issues regarding the refugee crisis, perceptions of Muslims in general, and the lack of anti ISIL statements from our Gulf Allies. Then proceed to state your initiatives, in detail, as to how you will handle these situations. And address, in the most specific terms, the vetting of immigrants.
Surprisingly the tide will turn when fear is abated by rational and implementable plans that are put forward by responsible individuals.
Surprisingly the tide will turn when fear is abated by rational and implementable plans that are put forward by responsible individuals.
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Mrs. Clinton was wise not to make a video telling Donald Trump, "You're fired." How could he be "fired?" From what I can see, he doesn't even have a job!
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Yes! And now that you mention it, Hillary doesn't have a job either! Can we disqualify them both then!?
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"Democrats Aren’t Laughing at Trump
By AMY CHOZICK and MAGGIE HABERMAN
Hillary Clinton and her campaign, confounded by Donald J. Trump’s continued strength in the polls..."
Why doesn't the headline say "Hillary Clinton Isn't Laughing" because the story is 99% about her and her wishy-washy response to D. Trump. Didn't Chozick or Haberman hear Bernie Sanders on Rachel Maddow two nights ago. He was clear and precise about Trump. No finger to the wind, no trying to appeal to those who may want to ban Muslims, just a straight forward answer about Trump stirring up bigoted emotions.
If this article doesn't prove that the NYT dismisses Bernie Sanders, I don't know what does! Trump's idiocy isn't strictly a HRC problem. It shouldn't be presented as hers alone.
By AMY CHOZICK and MAGGIE HABERMAN
Hillary Clinton and her campaign, confounded by Donald J. Trump’s continued strength in the polls..."
Why doesn't the headline say "Hillary Clinton Isn't Laughing" because the story is 99% about her and her wishy-washy response to D. Trump. Didn't Chozick or Haberman hear Bernie Sanders on Rachel Maddow two nights ago. He was clear and precise about Trump. No finger to the wind, no trying to appeal to those who may want to ban Muslims, just a straight forward answer about Trump stirring up bigoted emotions.
If this article doesn't prove that the NYT dismisses Bernie Sanders, I don't know what does! Trump's idiocy isn't strictly a HRC problem. It shouldn't be presented as hers alone.
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And don't forget that the polls consistently show Senator Sanders beating. Trump, while HRC's chances of doing that are less clear. Can it be that the Democratic party elite would rather hand this one over to a demagogue like Trump than relinquish their control of the Democratic Party to someone who is - God forbid, a..... Real Democrat?
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I dont think they realize that, when they laugh at Trump, we can tell that they are laughing at us, too.
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Yup, I'm ready for a corrupt, lying, rich Progressive elite who spent her entire career selling access to represent me; a white middle-aged, middle-class Christian.
Clinton is the most out-of-touch candidate with the concerns of the majority of (legal) Americans.
Living the life of royalty most of us can't even imagine, she called herself broke. Knowing within hours the real cause of Ambassadors Stephens death, she went on a two week lying spree (to the survivors, the gall!), knowingly compromised national security secrets to untold numbers of uncleared people, including Sid Vicious who 0bama specifically told her not to confide in. Is this who really represents you?
Clinton represents Clinton Inc. and precious little more beyond that.
Clinton is the most out-of-touch candidate with the concerns of the majority of (legal) Americans.
Living the life of royalty most of us can't even imagine, she called herself broke. Knowing within hours the real cause of Ambassadors Stephens death, she went on a two week lying spree (to the survivors, the gall!), knowingly compromised national security secrets to untold numbers of uncleared people, including Sid Vicious who 0bama specifically told her not to confide in. Is this who really represents you?
Clinton represents Clinton Inc. and precious little more beyond that.
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As a moderate conservative , I see Trump's so-called 'too far right ' rhetoric as a natural reaction to the REALITY of the way too -far- left policies and rhetoric of the current Obama Administration / Democrat Party . Every action has a reaction : for every " far ' Barack H. Obama ideologue , there will be a a Donald Trump .
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Like middle school bullies, Democrats and their fellow-travelers laugh derisively at anything with which they disagree or that doesn't fit their facile world-view. While I am not particularly a fan of Mr. Trump, he has clearly tapped into some deep sense among the American people that our political elites--in both parties--are hugely out of touch with mainstream America.
The trend, mentioned in the article, of calling anyone slightly to the right of center "Hitlerian" or "Fascist" is simply silly. For one thing, Hitler was a socialist. For another, it's pretty clear that to the extent that there is a totalitarian movement in this country, it comes exclusively from the left.
The trend, mentioned in the article, of calling anyone slightly to the right of center "Hitlerian" or "Fascist" is simply silly. For one thing, Hitler was a socialist. For another, it's pretty clear that to the extent that there is a totalitarian movement in this country, it comes exclusively from the left.
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So many people in politics do not know why Trump is so popular because they have become disconnected from the people. They think we elected them so they could run their agenda, not represent their constituents. The voters are fed up with a government full of career politicians who have forgotten their place.
Trump comes along, he's a regular guy. His campaign is personally funded, no donations from anyone, which leaves him free of the "capitol cronyism" that is so common these days. He is speaking directly to the people, not above them like so many politicians do. He is an outsider as politics goes, but that doesn't mean he can't do the job. Trump is connecting with the people in a way no politician ever will.
That scares both the career GOP and Liberals. This is what this country needs, an serious alternative to the politics-as-usual.
Trump comes along, he's a regular guy. His campaign is personally funded, no donations from anyone, which leaves him free of the "capitol cronyism" that is so common these days. He is speaking directly to the people, not above them like so many politicians do. He is an outsider as politics goes, but that doesn't mean he can't do the job. Trump is connecting with the people in a way no politician ever will.
That scares both the career GOP and Liberals. This is what this country needs, an serious alternative to the politics-as-usual.
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First of all, let's see the Gray Lady get her nomenclature right. The shooting in California was not a "terrorist attack." These were simply two misguided political thugs who had easy access to a grand arsenal which they used on his coworkers. The Times needs need to stop jumping on this yellow journalism bandwagon!
If Trump does in fact win the Republican nomination, Clinton will be forced to actually show herself to the American public as a smart, compassionate, caring person who, as Obama might say, "won't do stupid stuff." Trump will play to what Mrs. Clinton perceives as her weakness - an ability to connect to the voter on a visceral level.
But she's wrong about that.
After all the dust of his bluster has settled, enough voters will realize that he doesn't know much about being President.
The question then becomes, what will she do once she's in the Oval? Let's hope she becomes the force for real change that her predecessor never was.
That would be a political irony for the ages!
If Trump does in fact win the Republican nomination, Clinton will be forced to actually show herself to the American public as a smart, compassionate, caring person who, as Obama might say, "won't do stupid stuff." Trump will play to what Mrs. Clinton perceives as her weakness - an ability to connect to the voter on a visceral level.
But she's wrong about that.
After all the dust of his bluster has settled, enough voters will realize that he doesn't know much about being President.
The question then becomes, what will she do once she's in the Oval? Let's hope she becomes the force for real change that her predecessor never was.
That would be a political irony for the ages!
I see you changed the headline of this article from, "To Democrats, Donald Trump is no Laughing Matter" to, "To Hillary Clinton...." When your readers chastise you for not even bothering to acknowledge the other two Democrats in the race to the point where, finally, you have to change the headline, that should tell you something about the bias in your coverage of this election.
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If the 40% of Americans who never vote decide to go to the polls, that will be her worst nightmare.
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Clinton says, “It’s O.K., it’s O.K. to be afraid,” They are not afraid. They are angry. They are fed up with the Bush, Clinton, Obama establishment. A Hillary or Jeb presidency will be no different. They feel disenfranchised.
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Let me explain something here. The media and the elites are not upset with Donald Trump's comments. They are upset that he has torpedoed a multi-billion dollar industry by proving anyone can run for President if they have the ability to get their message out. Trump has spent LESS than any candidate on either side. They want to destroy him because of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxa6cp9idPo
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She Loves every minute of the Trump phenomena because she thinks it puts her in the WH. God help us if it does that !!!
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The NYT is supporting Hillary and the WSJ is supporting Jeb. However, the people in the country want to make up their own minds without the establishments pushing down a candidate... That's the first level of anger.
Hillary is all tied up with her big donors and that is why Sanders is the quiet underdog among the non elite Democrats.
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz's support is they are not bought candidates.
Trump has his own money and Cruz is too principled to change for the $...
People are fed up with the direction that this country is heading into...
We just found out that the State Department lied to us about the vetting of the finance visa ( no one even knows if she had an interview) and the address she gave on her application was fake. An easy check that was not done. 14 people are dead because the State department didn't vet her at all. What is wrong with putting a ban on all immigration if it is so broken?
Hillary is all tied up with her big donors and that is why Sanders is the quiet underdog among the non elite Democrats.
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz's support is they are not bought candidates.
Trump has his own money and Cruz is too principled to change for the $...
People are fed up with the direction that this country is heading into...
We just found out that the State Department lied to us about the vetting of the finance visa ( no one even knows if she had an interview) and the address she gave on her application was fake. An easy check that was not done. 14 people are dead because the State department didn't vet her at all. What is wrong with putting a ban on all immigration if it is so broken?
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Hillary has it ALL wrong. Trump is liked by his supporters first and foremost because he has huge balls of steel. They are so tired of what they see as a limp-wristed weenie in the WH, so Trump seems like a breath of fresh air. They also love the fact that he can't be bought, so he says what is on his mind, not what some puppet-master wants him to say like Hillary, Obama, Rubio and Cruz. He is unscripted, genuine and upfront, qualities not found in the actual politicians. They LOVE the fact that the corporate globalists who are selling America out HATE him, but they LOVE Hillary. Yes, they love the fact that he makes the MSM look completely inept and stupid, but that is not hard to do. You might think the thing they love most about him is how he brings up these super hot topics and forces all of America to talk about them whether they want to or not, but no its more than that. its because he has the balls to say what everyone is secretly thinking way down deep but are to afraid to admit it for fear of being called a xenophobe. Yes, everyone except Trump is more worried about being cool and liked than the future of America. But when you are as successful and rich as he is you don't have to worry about that.
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Trump is still laughable as a legitimate presidential candidate because he will never win, however the viral egregious diatribe that spews from his mouth will do damage to this country. People need to remember that he polls 30% of the possible 50% that would vote for him. This would be around 15% of the total voting population and the good thing about this is it takes votes away from the GOP if he runs as a 3rd Party and we can get a rational sane person in the White House.
People of America, you cannot trust a government that is trying to replace you. The uniparty in D.C. Is importing workers to drive down your wages, parasites to suck up your taxes in welfare, and murderers and rapists to keep you in fear and keep a police state in power. The Washington Cartel makes its riches by selling America out to foreign businesses and countries and stealing your money. Look at the Clinton Foundation donations, Hillary's email scandal, the fact that after 9/11 the Bush Administration flew out rich Saudis on private charters and instead of bombing Saudi Arabia to dust for financing 9/11 and producing 19 out of 20 of the filth that carried out the attack. Instead that scion of inbreeding attacked Afghanistan and Iraq. Bill, the congenial rapist sold our defense secrets th China so he could move up to a bigger double-wide trailer. When the economy collapsed in 2008 Obama and Hillary, never letting a crisis go to waste pushed through Obamacare, ruining private healthcare, driving up costs and stealing our freedom. Trump may not be perfect but he is honest to the American people and will do a far better job for us than the parasites in D.C.
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i think most people, myself includec, became numb to accusations of xenophobe or racist. we see the culture if our childhood destroyed. we see american jobs taken by people who arent invested in or display overt hatred for this country. whatever our motivations, our vision for this country are no less important than anyone elses. even in our small community we are being flooded with foreign strangers. we were never consulted, we didnt want it, and there seems to be only one plausible person to change it.
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Because our bi-partisan governing politicians and the media elite are all bought in to globalism, and nationalism and national sovereignty are dirty words to them. This is part of the reason they despise Putin's Russia.
The American people are watching American culture being destroyed, the American middle class getting decimated, and our so-called leaders at the helm intentionally seeing to it before they leave office.
The American people are watching American culture being destroyed, the American middle class getting decimated, and our so-called leaders at the helm intentionally seeing to it before they leave office.
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I love this man. The only guy who has the stones to say what we're all thinking. He's got my vote. And I'm a democrat.
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With the disclosure that the California couple who shot up their co-workers were "radicalized" years ago (yet not stopped from entering the US dressed in full Islamic garb), every candidate agrees that we need better safeguards against such people. Trump says the best safeguard is to just prevent all Muslims from entering until we "figure it out." It sounded stupid when we first heard it -- but now, not so much.
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Obama's weakness directly let to the strength of Trump
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Donald Trump was never a laughing matter to me. But today I saw pictures of the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau greeting Syrian refugees arriving in Canada and I wanted to cry. I am ashamed to live in a country that sees the rise of Donald Trump.
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MSNBC interviewed Bernie Sanders on the subject but not the "paper of record". You are trying to influence election by ignoring him - something you should not be doing in your news section. Sanders supporters take note of this. We wonder whether there is some ulterior motive. Protecting your advertisers? Tiffany? Cartier? Or is it something more sinister?
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If Trump doesn't get the nomination, I'm staying home on Election Day and if Bush gets it (really buys it) then I'm going to vote for Mrs. Clinton and that's it, plain and simple.
But one thing worries me, be careful what you wish for--- you might get it.
But one thing worries me, be careful what you wish for--- you might get it.
Hill ?
All I hear is Trump! Trump ! Trump!
What is your solution to terrorism within our borders ?
All I hear is Trump! Trump ! Trump!
What is your solution to terrorism within our borders ?
This brings back memories of what propelled Trump to fame in NYC. In 1987, Wollman skating rink, after being closed for seven years thanks to inability of contractors hired by the city government to repair it, was finally opened after Trump took over and got it fixed in just six weeks!!
I am for Rubio but I can see Trump's "can do" appeal. Plus, there's the added plus that the FBI is not looking into his activities with his private server.
I am for Rubio but I can see Trump's "can do" appeal. Plus, there's the added plus that the FBI is not looking into his activities with his private server.
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Our government is inept and only gotten worse under this student activist. Our government can't do anything right and failure only brings a reward of bonuses. No one ever is held accountable no one is ever fired for not performing their jobs. The only people that get fired are people who say something "offensive" but only to the left. Clinton is the poster child for using the government to amass a fortune for herself. She couldn't give a hoot about anyone else. Not with her money anyway but with yours & mine no problem.
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For several months,all we have heard from the media both lib/conserv is Trump will flame out.He has gotten stronger.Hillary needs to start worrying.The Repubs control the House/Senate and about 60% of the Governors offices.Trump's popularity reflects the voters total rejection for Obama and his 7 years of failures.
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Tump= billionaire Archie Bunker
Andrew Cuomo visited the New York Times Editorial Board then went on to be endorsed by them and won the Governor position.
Donald Trump was trained to act and promoted by N.B.C.
Looks like a battle between polarized media giants to me.
Donald Trump was trained to act and promoted by N.B.C.
Looks like a battle between polarized media giants to me.
All politicians are demagogues. I am a proud atheist and I believe in a secular country where religion has no business in public affairs. I cringe when I hear "God Bless America" uttered by politicians. I do not like religion mentioned by politicians, policy makers whenever they need more votes. People's beliefs or non beliefs are their own personal affairs, what they do or don't do in their homes, what they build as dwellings for private worship with their private income is their business within the confines of our secular system; but it they become corporations and make money from their religious activities they should be taxed as any businesses. About letting people in the US based on their religion: the assumption that since one is born in a muslim country that they are supposed to be a dangerous jihadist terrorists is wrong, there are those who are born in islamic countries who are atheists (many friends of mine from Turkey) who believe in secularism, and there are those who are born in the US who are fundamentalist christians, who are against women's right to choose, to dehumanize a whole group of people and label them as one? First check and vet everyone equally well before admitting them in. Banning automatic assault weapons and creating a system to control real weapons of destructions from our streets would make us citizens a lot safer than few more religious people, (however delusioned they are as all religious people are) living peacefully in our midst.
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It's an important point that gets lost in all the noise about "Islamophobia": not everybody born in a Muslim country or who is culturally Muslim is a believer and thus susceptible to the lure of Da'esh. Is it too much to ask that new immigrants and visitors be profiled based not on the color of their skin but on their worldview? The shooter of San Bernardino was let into the country wearing a full abaya which even many Muslims find excessive or offensive! On the other hand, Syrian Christians and Yazidis who are the target of genocide, are not given preferential treatment in immigration compared to able-bodies Sunni men. What is the logic of this?
I agree with you, religion should stay out of public life. I am also an atheist and I'm very proud of it. The most decent people I ever met
Trump has had a free-ride with no need to advertise or be accountable to anyone - because he keeps making headline news despite the fact that he is entirely not worthy of headlines, being taken seriously or our national attention. Please stop writing about Trump and write about more important things - were the media to stop giving him any attention, so would his importance in the polls and in the country and in influencing others to hate.
My advice to the Democrats would be to employ the services of a distinguished historian of the Weimar Republic and its sequel, who may be able to advise them on how to avoid the mistakes in electoral politics that brought another demagogue to power.
Why would I want to support Hillary, when she has already proven that she cannot lead us through our struggle with terrorism. Also, she is so divisive, but then again most politicians are so they can get votes.
I don't support Trump either, because he is a typically politician. He (just like Hillary) makes a ton of promises that he cannot keep, because the president doesn't have the power to actually do most of them.
I don't support Trump either, because he is a typically politician. He (just like Hillary) makes a ton of promises that he cannot keep, because the president doesn't have the power to actually do most of them.
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I am a liberal Democrat, but seriously considering voting for Trump. Why ? Trump is the only one who speaks the truth about 9/11 and the subsequent war in Iraq. Trump understands that the rise of ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorism is the direct result of American interference in the Middle East. This goes back decades from both Republican and Democrat administrations. As for banning all Muslims entry into the United States - no, that is too extreme. However, a ban on all people from Saudi Arabia....absolutely yes, they are the root cause of the extremist ideology, funding & terror. Trump may be way out there on some issues, but he is not beholden the the special interest groups, political elites & is corruption free. Trump is definitely the best of the Republican lot. I wish I could get excited about Hillary, but she's in the pocket of the Wall Street crowd and I just can't get beyond that.
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Plus Hillary voted for Iraq, and Trump was an outspoken critic back then.
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talk about missing the trees from the forest...
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Following that line of logic, let's bar the people who live in the Bronx from entering Manhattan, and the people of Camden and Newark from leaving the designated city limits.
I know just the way for Hillary to confound the Donald: how about if she endorses Bernie? That would throw him into a tizzy and be a big step in the right direction.
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Hillary should beworried. She is nothing but a puppet and and lackey for the banksters and globalists. She could care less about working class and working poor Americans. The biggest enemies of the working class are the cheap migrant labor lobby and the corporate outsourcers. Trump is on a roll. Trump is essentially pro choice; currently the only GOP candidate supporting rape and incest exceptions. His biggest problem is not being holy enough for the hard core Christian right.
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The Huma thing played right into Trumps hand. Again, this is Goldwater, but this time Goldwater isn't running against the ghost of Kennedy, he's running against an unpopular POTUS. Did everyone read the quote from the 75 yr old guy in Iowa?
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Trump is laughing at Democrats, Republicans, Mexicans, Blacks, Muslims, Europeans, Arabs, the media and China. Unless and until Trump wins or loses an election to elective office the show will go on. Class and crass are matters of personal political perspective and context.
Trump is is 100% correct. This isn't about religion. It is about common sense. It is about refusing to allow a particular group of people to immigrate here because that group has large numbers of its members who believe that they should convert, enslave or kill anyone who will not join that group who are extremely difficult to identify and who are actively carrying out that belief! It just happens to be that it is bound together by a religion, islam. The really incredible thing is that to the liberal mind, that truth somehow moves them to the head of the line instead of barring them!
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Almost a year till the election. Only one candidate is not going to look bad if there is another Terrorist Attack by Radical Islam. Guess Who? BTW, these people who can't wrap their brain around the Trump Supporters? Supporting Trump is not a stamp of approval of liking him.
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Step 1 - ridicule and dismiss "clown, fool, idiot, stupid" and always, always include "Racist"
Step 2 - roll out the standard insults "rich, bigot, hater" + "Racist"
Step 3 - ratchet up to "unpatriotic, facist, hitler" and, as always - "Racist"
Apply same steps to supporters.
Step 2 - roll out the standard insults "rich, bigot, hater" + "Racist"
Step 3 - ratchet up to "unpatriotic, facist, hitler" and, as always - "Racist"
Apply same steps to supporters.
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Step 4: when 1-3 fail, pack the primary with 15 politicians to split the votes, so it goes to a brokered convention
Trump may be many things to many people but he wouldn't lie to grieving parents on a Delaware tarmac. Now she claims that didn't happen, so I guess we're to believe the grieving parents cobbled together a storyline centered on the deaths of their loved ones to damage Mrs. Clinton's chances at 'Madam President.'
At one time her campaign's center of gravity could be viewed as unseemly. Its gotten worse. What's worse-- alienating Muslim countries that really don't like us anyway or attacking half of your fellow countrymen?
Oh! I remember now: "REVENGE."
At one time her campaign's center of gravity could be viewed as unseemly. Its gotten worse. What's worse-- alienating Muslim countries that really don't like us anyway or attacking half of your fellow countrymen?
Oh! I remember now: "REVENGE."
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I rarely venture to read you, NYT, over this past couple of years......as you censor pretty much all of my infrequent comments...
But, Trump is such a phenom that I actually read this article......and, my two bits is this, regarding
"Mrs. Clinton is not the only Democrat struggling to settle on a strategy for responding to Mr. Trump’s campaign,..."
Do you know why the "struggling", truly?
Here's why: It's very hard to strike at COMMON SENSE! The Left has left COMMON SENSE behind in pursuit of some mythical heaven-on-earth where only their opinions and ways matter...
Real World demands more, not less, common sense; despite the trend of more and more CS being defined as politically incorrect.
The Left is the biggest hypocrites of today....the Not in My Back Yard or Don't Block My Ocean View type that a majority of us recognize and despise...you want Syrian refugees? Great, step up and tell us to have the Feds move them to your city and neighborhood of big lots and expansive lawns that can hold dozens of tents!
But, Trump is such a phenom that I actually read this article......and, my two bits is this, regarding
"Mrs. Clinton is not the only Democrat struggling to settle on a strategy for responding to Mr. Trump’s campaign,..."
Do you know why the "struggling", truly?
Here's why: It's very hard to strike at COMMON SENSE! The Left has left COMMON SENSE behind in pursuit of some mythical heaven-on-earth where only their opinions and ways matter...
Real World demands more, not less, common sense; despite the trend of more and more CS being defined as politically incorrect.
The Left is the biggest hypocrites of today....the Not in My Back Yard or Don't Block My Ocean View type that a majority of us recognize and despise...you want Syrian refugees? Great, step up and tell us to have the Feds move them to your city and neighborhood of big lots and expansive lawns that can hold dozens of tents!
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Hillary hates the American people and spews her hate every day.
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If Hillary would only offer one of those reset buttons to isis maybe all this violence would stop
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As a side note, the 'Love Trumps Hate' slogan is dumb and counter-effective. The first two words stick, while the third word feels like the reaction of some people to the strength of the first two. Bad advertising.
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Wait, so Donald Trump is not a Hillary Clinton plant? She didn't recruit him to troll the GOP?!
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I'm not entirely convinced he's not. Didn't he used to hang out with them years ago?
Ah....we aren't laughing we are ecstatic! Imagine a candidate upsetting England, reminds me of Mitt Romney when he told the UK they were not running their Olympics right....where do they find these health take away people?
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With 57% of America agreeing that Trump's Islamoblockade is a pretty neat idea, it now seems orthodoxy that our country is fully and formally awash in hate, paranoia, anger and ignorance. Indeed, these base emotions, once eschewed, are now de rigeur. Trump is simply brazen and insightful enough to start pouring the undistilled koolaid.
We used to be the hope of the world. The GOP and now Trump have been the linchpin that has transitioned us from laughingstock to pariah.
We used to be the hope of the world. The GOP and now Trump have been the linchpin that has transitioned us from laughingstock to pariah.
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Stoking the ugly prejudices of the "common" people is a useful tool for every cynical social-climber in this crazy world of ours.
All we can say to such troublemakers is"
Try not to be so Common, if you possibly can.
All we can say to such troublemakers is"
Try not to be so Common, if you possibly can.
The fact that Trump is doing so well shows the vicious circle of democracy. If everybody gets to vote and the majority of voters are poor and of low IQ and are promised a better life paid for by the rich or are scared of illegal Mexicans or pro-ISIS immigrants democracy has fallen of the cliff. Listening to all Presidential candidates that seems to be the focus of their promises - Trump is just better at talking this nonsense. Any democracy always ends up as a dictatorship - remember China, Russia, Argentina, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, now Turkey. How much longer will we have democracy here in the US - Trump is leading the way to push us over the cliff; he is nothing but a Pied Piper
The more that corrupt plastic politicians (like Hillary, who should be in jail) and the media hate Trump - the more the people love him. He cannot be bought or bullied - and they can't stand it. I'm for Trump!
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I actually support Bernie, but I absolutely revel in the schadenfreude inspired by the comments on these Times articles. (Sweeter because so much more literate than WaPo comments.)
Don't worry if Trump wins as President. The Generals, C.I.A. and F.B.I. will keep him on their course.
Reminds me of "Alices' Restaurant" in which the draftee tries to get out of serving by yelling "I want to Kill, Kill, Kill............" to be rejected only to be met with the words "You're our boy!".
Reminds me of "Alices' Restaurant" in which the draftee tries to get out of serving by yelling "I want to Kill, Kill, Kill............" to be rejected only to be met with the words "You're our boy!".
Tump will slam and bump
Then possibily dump
The worried GOP elite
Who want him mericfully beat
So they suffer not yet
Another defeat
Then possibily dump
The worried GOP elite
Who want him mericfully beat
So they suffer not yet
Another defeat
Clinton and Obama's disastrous failure with ISIS and Islamic jihadism set the table for Trump.
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From where pundits sit, the world is fine and dandy, even if they're "liberals" or "leftists." They have jobs and homes and money and the coolest little gadgets the world has ever known.
But out in the hinterlands, the herd is spooked.
Their credit cards are maxed out, their families are broken, their male heirs are off in their bedrooms, staring at internet porn; the herd sees the closed factories and the barbed wire and the empty downtown storefronts. Their uneasiness has been heightened by a granular diet of fear, from Ebola to Chi-Raq to ISIS. And the soothing words of their political shepherds haven't led to the pastures of plenty they were promised.
The pundits, fat and happy in the middle of the herd, where the best grass is, assume that this year's cattle drive will be like all the other round ups. They pride themselves on their data analytics.
But not even Nate Silver cannot predict the behavior of a spooked herd.
Spooked herds are the specialty of hyenas like Donald Trump.
First, you pick off the lame and the weak on the fringes. Then you promise to protect the herd from the jackals the herd can't see. And then, once you've got the brood twitching and trembling with fear, you point to verdant pastures - with grass as green and tender as in The Days of Old - just over the next hill. And the multitudes stampede.
And over the cliff they go.
At the bottom of which, the hyenas feed.
At their leisure.
But out in the hinterlands, the herd is spooked.
Their credit cards are maxed out, their families are broken, their male heirs are off in their bedrooms, staring at internet porn; the herd sees the closed factories and the barbed wire and the empty downtown storefronts. Their uneasiness has been heightened by a granular diet of fear, from Ebola to Chi-Raq to ISIS. And the soothing words of their political shepherds haven't led to the pastures of plenty they were promised.
The pundits, fat and happy in the middle of the herd, where the best grass is, assume that this year's cattle drive will be like all the other round ups. They pride themselves on their data analytics.
But not even Nate Silver cannot predict the behavior of a spooked herd.
Spooked herds are the specialty of hyenas like Donald Trump.
First, you pick off the lame and the weak on the fringes. Then you promise to protect the herd from the jackals the herd can't see. And then, once you've got the brood twitching and trembling with fear, you point to verdant pastures - with grass as green and tender as in The Days of Old - just over the next hill. And the multitudes stampede.
And over the cliff they go.
At the bottom of which, the hyenas feed.
At their leisure.
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Donald Trump is the new Ross Perot. He is looking for anything that can stir the emotions of the country. Perot wanted go after the Lawyers, which resonated in this country back when people thought Corporate double speak that said if we could just lower the amount Corporations can be sued for in cases of wrongful death, things would be much cheaper. Who really believes that now?
Who really believes Trump is a concern?
Who really believes Trump is a concern?
As far as Hillary is concerned, the way to deal with Muslim terrorism is to let as many Muslims into the country as possible.
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Please provide a citation.
Forced to consider the roots his appeal to many . . .
And that's the problem, right there: they had to be "forced" to listen by the far right.
Had "they" listened earlier and given voter concerns more attention (secure our southern border, deport illegal immigrants immediately, stop lying about the real strength of IS and admit the mistakes we made in underestimating them, secure Medicare and Social Security rather than banker bonuses . . . you know, paltry things like that) . . .
Rather than demonstrating their abiding contempt for voters once in office and taking care of the rich, and figuring out how to shaft low-income elderly instead of filthy rich bankers . . .
The far right wouldn't have a prayer. That goes for Europe, as well, in spades.
That said, the TIMES editorial board should relax: as many have predicted, it's unlikely that the two Le Pen ladies in France will hold on in the second round of elections this Sunday to the large breakthrough they made in the first round: the Socialiste candidates have been ordered to stand down in the two most promising districts for the Le Pens, and their voters pretty much "ordered" to throw their votes to the centre-right Republicains, which will pretty much assure that the Le Pens lose.
Of course if that's what you have to do to disenfranchise a large segment of voters, whose fury will not go away come the presidential elections, it begs questions. Typically, politicians will ignore those, and leave them festering.
And that's the problem, right there: they had to be "forced" to listen by the far right.
Had "they" listened earlier and given voter concerns more attention (secure our southern border, deport illegal immigrants immediately, stop lying about the real strength of IS and admit the mistakes we made in underestimating them, secure Medicare and Social Security rather than banker bonuses . . . you know, paltry things like that) . . .
Rather than demonstrating their abiding contempt for voters once in office and taking care of the rich, and figuring out how to shaft low-income elderly instead of filthy rich bankers . . .
The far right wouldn't have a prayer. That goes for Europe, as well, in spades.
That said, the TIMES editorial board should relax: as many have predicted, it's unlikely that the two Le Pen ladies in France will hold on in the second round of elections this Sunday to the large breakthrough they made in the first round: the Socialiste candidates have been ordered to stand down in the two most promising districts for the Le Pens, and their voters pretty much "ordered" to throw their votes to the centre-right Republicains, which will pretty much assure that the Le Pens lose.
Of course if that's what you have to do to disenfranchise a large segment of voters, whose fury will not go away come the presidential elections, it begs questions. Typically, politicians will ignore those, and leave them festering.
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Two wishes for the season: That one of the Democratic candidates would address the Trump issue by talking about the American propensity, deeply ingrained in our psyche, to fear a particular group of people and to identify that group as the source of our at-the-moment problems; this counter-productive behavior is deeply ingrained in us and has always proven to be unfounded (of course!). A second wish: acknowledge the terror that our drones, our Iraq invasion, our continuing policies impose upon the Muslim populations of the Middle East on a daily basis in their daily lives.
Dictators and con-artist speak in such ways. We need to wake up, and quick I might add....
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Your comments remind me of a certain community organizer
This is the prime opportunity for the Democratic party be seen as the party of common sense, forward looking policies, and competency. The Republican party is disintegrating before us. It seems to function as some modern households where the 2 or 3 yr old toddlers, and kids in general determines the activities of the household , like Trump. They control the family with total disrespect, shouting, food throwing. temper tantrums and overall intolerable behavior. (check out your local restaurant for this family).. If this is the country you want, elect Trump.
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Claiming the mantle of "the party of common sense" would tend to preclude choosing the rapacious granny in a pantsuit as your standard bearer.
Those who support Bernie Sanders have never laughed at Trump.
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It boils down to this: Americans are sick of the corrupt liars & thieves that populate the Republican & Democrat parties. Obama says kneel and the Press obeys. Where is the Attorney General? In Chicago investigating Rahm's involvement into the death & cover up of an African American?
No way. No power to be gained from that race crime and besides, Rahm's a buddy. You don't prosecute a buddy for suppression of evidence and protecting a killer. That's how Barry's mind works. HIllary's is even easier: tell whatever lies are necessary to gain power.
No way. No power to be gained from that race crime and besides, Rahm's a buddy. You don't prosecute a buddy for suppression of evidence and protecting a killer. That's how Barry's mind works. HIllary's is even easier: tell whatever lies are necessary to gain power.
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If Hilary wants to contrast herself with Trump, she should state emphatically and without reservation that she will not recklessly commit the nation to an expensive, infinite military engagement that has no chance of succeeding. If this should require issuance of a 'mea culpa' for her failure to oppose a previous reckless military engagement that contributed to the power vacuum that ISIS now exploits, then so be it.
I'm not a Trump supporter but he said we should TEMPORARILY ban Muslims until we get a handle on the ISIS program of infiltration AMONGST THESE PEOPLE (which they've boasted off) and until we improve our laughable vetting procedures. This doesn't sound unreasonable to anyone but the insane left.
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I am really hoping ( hint NYT ) that someone will run an in depth study of how the State Department just openly lied to the American public.
Since 2009, the Obama administration have streamlined the process so that visas can all be accomplished completely online–without any face-to-face check with a U.S. embassy official.
Look at the numbers:
Since Obama took office, the number of visas issued per year to non-friendly, non-waiver residents has jumped by over 50 percent to 9,932,480 last year.
Since 2009, the Obama administration have streamlined the process so that visas can all be accomplished completely online–without any face-to-face check with a U.S. embassy official.
Look at the numbers:
Since Obama took office, the number of visas issued per year to non-friendly, non-waiver residents has jumped by over 50 percent to 9,932,480 last year.
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Hat tip nnn123
Here is number eight US Code 1182,
inadmissible aliens. This law was written in 1952. It was passed by
a Democrat-controlled Congress, House and Senate, and signed by a Democrat President.
"Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by president.
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of
aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the
United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he
shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as
immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on the
entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be
appropriate."
Here is number eight US Code 1182,
inadmissible aliens. This law was written in 1952. It was passed by
a Democrat-controlled Congress, House and Senate, and signed by a Democrat President.
"Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by president.
Whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of
aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the
United States, the president may, by proclamation, and for such period as he
shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as
immigrants or non-immigrants or impose on the
entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be
appropriate."
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Donald Trump is like ISIS: the more it's attacked, the more outrageous its dealings, the stronger it gets. A couple of years ago I expected ISIS to soon become WASWAS. It didn't work out that way. Donald Trump wasn't supposed to get this far in the race, but here he is stronger than ever. Obviously over the air attacks on him are not working, there needs to be more on the ground confrontation to force him out of contention. But who has the courage to really take him on?
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All these articles reference "the elite political community".From where I stand,there is very little elite about any politician except Bernie .Certainly nothing special about all the rest of the pandering pols.
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The rest of the world continues to wonder how easy it is for Americans to sacrifice their young sons/daughters lives in battle - excepting the Trumps and sons/daughters of other Congressmen of course- because, as sure as anything, Trump will lead the US into a war, because they, like Trump cant abide the idea that the US will become secondary, economically or militarily, to China - even though China was the greatest economic power in history up to the Industrial revolution. Surely Americans cant be so unwise as to elect this .....person.
Worry about Australia Gary. We got this.
Amazing the FBI has not indited Hilary yet. Trump has shown hes a master at controlling the media. His comments resonate with people in fly over states and those that feel goverment is the largest threat to our country's survival & overall well being of its citicenry. While Trump beats the immigration drum early on in this race, Hes going to beat the employment drum after he receives the nomination. People in this country need jobs. Minority's need jobs, and no one is more qualified to create private sector jobs then Donald.
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I remember when he first announced he might run, and all the left-leaning comics (eg. Jon Stewart) were BEGGING him to run, for all the lolz they'd have. At the time I marvelled, and not in a good way, at what media workers of all types were willing to trade for some laughs. I was/am so disappointed in my fellow lefties, for every joke made about the guy's hair, etc. Pairing elitism with a shrugging off of history is, as the kids would say, "not a good look."
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The reality, the fact, that both Democrats and Republicans continue to be blind-sided by the support of Trump reveals how completely out of touch they are with the anger and angst of the electorate. I do not agree with Trump, and will not be voting for him, but the insularity of the two parties from this reality begs the question of why I should vote for any of their select - basically the ~158 elite families in this country who have chosen to put them before us - to do the job I am hiring them to do. This being to lead the country and occupy the Power Oval.
I believe this continuing show of support of Trump is less about Trump and more a damning indictment of the two parties as they present themselves today. Truly they need to wake up and smell the electoral coffee....
John~
American Net'Zen
I believe this continuing show of support of Trump is less about Trump and more a damning indictment of the two parties as they present themselves today. Truly they need to wake up and smell the electoral coffee....
John~
American Net'Zen
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Trump a carnival barker, a sideshow, a "comb-over", limited with language skills...? If he keeps us safe, discourages terror attacks, slams ISIS over there, reduces excess federal spending, negotiates better trade deals with our largest trading partners, is up front and honest with the American people, not an apologist for past mistakes by this country, unwavering in his support for law enforcement and the military, then he is light years ahead of the guy in the WH right now and GOOD for our country !!!
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no sanders, classic...
it's called fragile white male syndrome...that's why people cling to trump.
it's called fragile white male syndrome...that's why people cling to trump.
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Mr. Trump also appeals to working class blacks who are treated poorly by the Muslim shopkeepers. Mr. Trump will receive more black votes than any Republican in recent memory. Secondly, if there's another Islamic terrorist attack before election day. Mr. Trump will be seen as the only one in politics standing up for The People. Democrats you have taken two election day defeats in a row. Your setting yourselves up for a third.
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In a number of polls Bernie fares better than Hillary against Trump... but you'd never know if from reading the NYT.
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Democratic and Republican candidates should certainly acknowledge the fear that has manifested since San Bernadino. Domestic security needs should be addressed alongside the foreign policy aspects of defeating terrorists generally and ISIS specifically.
I am glad that other candidates have condemned Trump's overly-broad anti-Muslim stands. Islam is not the problem. The radical jihadist Islam practiced by ISIS is.
I am glad that other candidates have condemned Trump's overly-broad anti-Muslim stands. Islam is not the problem. The radical jihadist Islam practiced by ISIS is.
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You do realize that the man, Sayeed Farook was planning jihad before ISIS even came to be.....
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Yes, Trump is not a laughing matter. The Democrats should really take him seriously. They need to ask themselves why he appeals to so many. Above all they simply can't dismiss his supporters as idiots. Yesterday on NPR, I listening to an interview with a focus group of Trump supporters from the Washington DC area, the group included highly educated people, federal employees, veterans, college students, a wide, might I say "diverse" mix of people. Trump supporters are not uneducated and ill-informed buffoons. They are people tired of listening to scripted polished speeches from candidates speaking as if they are on the high school debate team; they are tired of listening to the regurgitated lies that flow from the mouths of traditional politicians. These are people tired of liberalism and political correctness gone amok and want their nation back.
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It's sad that after all these years of "which candidate would you rather have a beer with?" that it still doesn't matter what a candidate says, as long as he sounds good, respectful, authentic, etc. saying it.
It's worth electing Trump just to be able to think and speak honestly without being charged with some offense.
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highly educated people, federal employees is an oxymoron.
i should know, i was one.
i should know, i was one.
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If the American people can't rise to this challenge, put their fears into rational thought, then Mr Trump will continue to be the face of Uncle Sam for ISIS.
If Mr Trump becomes president, ISIS can just sit back and watch America implode, as the great divider does their bidding.
If Mr Trump becomes president, ISIS can just sit back and watch America implode, as the great divider does their bidding.
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Neither party has a working class-friendly economic platform. Therefore, the Republicans seek to engage their base via gun madness, racism and xenophobia etc.
Hillary seeks to engage the Democratic base by fooling them into thinking that she is a "populist" now, but she will morph into a more centrist position in the general election in order to attract moderate Republicans.
The Democratic base is vulnerable to Hillary's ploy because, let's face it, no one easily admits to themselves that their party, over the course of the past 23 years, has largely abandoned the middle class-friendly policies of the New Deal. Denial is much easier than acceptance, especially when the opposition party has even less to offer the working class.
Hillary seeks to engage the Democratic base by fooling them into thinking that she is a "populist" now, but she will morph into a more centrist position in the general election in order to attract moderate Republicans.
The Democratic base is vulnerable to Hillary's ploy because, let's face it, no one easily admits to themselves that their party, over the course of the past 23 years, has largely abandoned the middle class-friendly policies of the New Deal. Denial is much easier than acceptance, especially when the opposition party has even less to offer the working class.
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I for one go anywhwere, at any time and give no thought at all to possibly being gunned down my a Muslim extremist. Am I wrong?
4
Democrats can push us only so far, and Republicans we put in office have ignored us. That is the sum total of the Trump 'phenomenon.'
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It is a fallacy and a big assumption to think that all Democrats will vote for Democratic candidates. People vote for issues that matter to them. Immigration, fair trade deals, jobs and stopping the flow of illegal migrants are what matters to most citizen.
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Mrs. Clinton's advisers cannot figure out why Mr. Trump appeals to so many people? Maybe she should get new advisers.
Mr. Trump's appeal is plain for all to see. He doesn't appeal to peoples' fear as the Democrats insist he does. Just the reverse, he appeals to peoples' hopes. The hope of no longer being hopeless. Vote for me he says, and your troubles will disappear. You have no job? I'll give you one (which is presently being taken from you by illegal immigrants). You have no money? I'll put some in your bank account (instead of the bank account of the Chinese). You are afraid that terrorists will attack us? I promise you they won't after I finish bombing and destroying them. You want well-paying manufacturing jobs? I'll tax the bejesus out of any company that has manufacturing overseas and force them to bring their manufacturing back to America, etc. And don't worry about how I'll go about doing all these things. Just trust me. I am big, I am strong, I am smart, I am rich, I am the world's greatest.
His message is the stereotype message of the demagogue masquerading as the savior of mankind. How long after he is elected will he push the envelope one step further with the message of "you don't trust congress? I don't either. Give me the power of dismissing them (through a constitutional amendment), and I'll rule by presidential decree. Those of us of a certain age have seen this scenario before. It was Germany circa 1930-1938. Long live the LEADER!
Mr. Trump's appeal is plain for all to see. He doesn't appeal to peoples' fear as the Democrats insist he does. Just the reverse, he appeals to peoples' hopes. The hope of no longer being hopeless. Vote for me he says, and your troubles will disappear. You have no job? I'll give you one (which is presently being taken from you by illegal immigrants). You have no money? I'll put some in your bank account (instead of the bank account of the Chinese). You are afraid that terrorists will attack us? I promise you they won't after I finish bombing and destroying them. You want well-paying manufacturing jobs? I'll tax the bejesus out of any company that has manufacturing overseas and force them to bring their manufacturing back to America, etc. And don't worry about how I'll go about doing all these things. Just trust me. I am big, I am strong, I am smart, I am rich, I am the world's greatest.
His message is the stereotype message of the demagogue masquerading as the savior of mankind. How long after he is elected will he push the envelope one step further with the message of "you don't trust congress? I don't either. Give me the power of dismissing them (through a constitutional amendment), and I'll rule by presidential decree. Those of us of a certain age have seen this scenario before. It was Germany circa 1930-1938. Long live the LEADER!
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Clinton might not giggle if in her hubris she understood how many people see Trump as more authentic and, trustworthy.
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The Dems need to think this thru. I recall a psyc condition where the more you try to provide evidence to discredit a belief the stronger it is reinforced. (I had a personal experience with that one.) And The Donald's supporters are really psyc'ed by their man. The reason the Reps win is because they are very motivated and get out the vote while the Dems sleep-in at home.
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Trump supporters are loud, but they are not the majority. If he is the only choice, many Republicans will hold their noses and vote for Clinton. Although many believe that Trump represents what the Republican party has become, there are still sane but silent Republicans out there.
The political class is flummoxed by a politician who is listening to the voters. That's just not done anymore!
"How do we respond to someone who wants not to fool-and-rule from the ivory tower but rather respond to the genuine concerns of Americans? That's so beneath the dignity of the enlightened elite!"
"How do we respond to someone who wants not to fool-and-rule from the ivory tower but rather respond to the genuine concerns of Americans? That's so beneath the dignity of the enlightened elite!"
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They should be laughing at Trump. Trump is an example of how extremism generates opposition that leads to its own destruction. The general uproar, here and abroad, against what Trump has stood for will, in the end, undo him. As for Trump himself, I think that his boisterousness is a cover for core insecurities - after all, a man who publicly trumpets his great superiority more likely than not has a problem with significant internal inferiority.
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If you like conspiracies, then this.
Trump is running in alliance with the Clintons. He is fully aware that he cannot win the general election, but by running he prevents the ascendance of a Republican candidate who could.
So, this is all a plot by the Clintons to assure victory. Trump is a willing part of it.
Trump is running in alliance with the Clintons. He is fully aware that he cannot win the general election, but by running he prevents the ascendance of a Republican candidate who could.
So, this is all a plot by the Clintons to assure victory. Trump is a willing part of it.
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I totally agree with this scenario. Trump and Clinton are part of what is called The Manhattan Mafia !!'
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The good news for Hillary Clinton is that in the latest poll published in yesterday's NYT she does nearly as well in "ability in handling terrorism" as Mr. Trump (35% "very confident" v. 40%). Moreover, his negatives are even higher than hers. In other words, Secretary Clinton can stop "laughing" and just be quietly ecstatic about the possibility of running against the pompous billionaire who has become the one "everyone loves to hate" including many in his own party.
I am glad to see so much support for Trump here. With all due respect to NYT, I do not see Mr. Trump's policies as rhetoric, I see them as common sense plans. Frankly, when I hear his words being labelled as rhetoric, I feel like I am being gas lighted by the press, and I don't like it.
One more thing, something has changed in the last years since Obama has became president, and has shown such deference to Islam. As we have watched the threats increase both here and abroad, many more Americans have educated themselves about Islam. We have all been doing a lot of reading: about history, about Muhammad, about the religion and the political aspects of it, and about the developments and outcomes of mass Islamic immigration in Sweden, the UK, the Netherlands, and all of Europe. We are not ignorant about the ramifications anymore. It is a problem. Islam is a problem for the free world. If we do indeed want to see a more moderate form of Islam emerge, letting extremists in en masse is not the way to help those within the religion already here who wish to see moderation. An Imam was just forced to resign for agreeing with Mr. Trump's policy. Isn't he one of the moderate Muslims we wish to be protecting and supporting? And who was who was so bothered by Mr. Trump's plan? Hamas? CAIR? Organizations who do not recognize jihad as terror? Better think hard about this.
One more thing, something has changed in the last years since Obama has became president, and has shown such deference to Islam. As we have watched the threats increase both here and abroad, many more Americans have educated themselves about Islam. We have all been doing a lot of reading: about history, about Muhammad, about the religion and the political aspects of it, and about the developments and outcomes of mass Islamic immigration in Sweden, the UK, the Netherlands, and all of Europe. We are not ignorant about the ramifications anymore. It is a problem. Islam is a problem for the free world. If we do indeed want to see a more moderate form of Islam emerge, letting extremists in en masse is not the way to help those within the religion already here who wish to see moderation. An Imam was just forced to resign for agreeing with Mr. Trump's policy. Isn't he one of the moderate Muslims we wish to be protecting and supporting? And who was who was so bothered by Mr. Trump's plan? Hamas? CAIR? Organizations who do not recognize jihad as terror? Better think hard about this.
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well, the Dems should be laughing at Clown Trump because, if he wins the Rep nomination, then they will be handed the election. Donald is, and has been, a walking bag of hot air, who appeals to the most desperate and ignorant slice of America. Thank you, Donald ... please, keep talking.
I sort of envy the people who vote Red or Blue no matter who the candidate is. It takes no thought and generates no anxiety to blindly do what you've always done - support your party. These people can find an acorn in every stream of blather, and when it degenerates into absolute nonsense and untruths, they attribute it to 'politics' and enjoy the spectacle.
Meanwhile, those of us who look at all the candidates and try to make educated decisions are left pulling our hair out over the bunch of fanatics, criminals, buffoons, incompetents, egomaniacs, and manipulators who are soliciting our support. "Least-of-evils" is a sickening way to choose a world leader.
Meanwhile, those of us who look at all the candidates and try to make educated decisions are left pulling our hair out over the bunch of fanatics, criminals, buffoons, incompetents, egomaniacs, and manipulators who are soliciting our support. "Least-of-evils" is a sickening way to choose a world leader.
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I am wasting time and keystrokes here but, Clinton has not been nominated. There are two other Democratic candidates. Why are they not mentioned??
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Because the Nyt want Hillary, whether anyone else does or not.
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Trump is no joke, and I think he can beat Hillary, possibly quite easily. This is where we've arrived as a nation. We're seriously considering making this vile, ignorant, narcissistic snake oil salesman the most powerful man on earth. This country is officially in the toilet.
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Trump, the candidate, is beholden to no one and as such can say crazy and outlandish things. I'll start worrying if, when the first votes are cast, he does well at the ballot box.
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there is perennially a roughly 30% share of the electorate that thrills to stupid rhetoric. sliver segments will move in or out of that 30% depending on the specific claims at issue, but it remains a stable aspect of politics both here and in many other nations.
clinton is only being cautious -- "love beats hate" is a feeble retort to fear -- partly because this is still a republican dog fight, partly because trump is throwing new dynamics into the political calculus, and partly because the most effective counterattacks may eventually not have to be directed at trump, but at cruz or rubio. the fight is not for the 30% of wingnuts, but for the middle of the road voter.
the unspoken fact here is that trump's campaign is extremely effective. every claim that trump is a clown is only a denial of that fact. his campaign has isolated, parodied and gutted each of his adversaries in methodical, almost clinical moves. that can't happen without really smart people looking far ahead and at the same time dictating the rules of the game.
enough about trump the clown, the fascist, the demagogue. where is the NY Times reporting on his advisors, his managers, his coterie, his network? if you want to understand what trump really is and really represents, you should start looking there.
clinton is only being cautious -- "love beats hate" is a feeble retort to fear -- partly because this is still a republican dog fight, partly because trump is throwing new dynamics into the political calculus, and partly because the most effective counterattacks may eventually not have to be directed at trump, but at cruz or rubio. the fight is not for the 30% of wingnuts, but for the middle of the road voter.
the unspoken fact here is that trump's campaign is extremely effective. every claim that trump is a clown is only a denial of that fact. his campaign has isolated, parodied and gutted each of his adversaries in methodical, almost clinical moves. that can't happen without really smart people looking far ahead and at the same time dictating the rules of the game.
enough about trump the clown, the fascist, the demagogue. where is the NY Times reporting on his advisors, his managers, his coterie, his network? if you want to understand what trump really is and really represents, you should start looking there.
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I have never laughed at Trump, or dismissed him. He is not an aberration, but represents a large, dangerous segment of America. This group has never been reconciled to the triumph of the civil rights movement, listens to Rush Limbaugh, despises education, believes violence is the solution to any difficulty, wants simple answers to complicated problems, loves guns as much as they love Jesus, and is very frightened. The Republican Party may not nominate him, but he will run independently. A few more terror attacks and he will be President.
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Environmentally speaking, allowing millions to come and live here is a very dangerous proposition. 'More people' are not the answer to our problems. Fiscally speaking, 75% of immigrants find themselves on welfare.
From the standpoint of security, well, we know what happens. 9/11, Boston Marathon, beheadings at work, mass shootings, on and on.
So fiscally, environmentally, and for security reasons, why are we bringing people here by the millions? I don't know and it doesn't sound like Trump understands it either. This country was built by immigrants, but at 320 million people we seem to be fully occupied now.
From the standpoint of security, well, we know what happens. 9/11, Boston Marathon, beheadings at work, mass shootings, on and on.
So fiscally, environmentally, and for security reasons, why are we bringing people here by the millions? I don't know and it doesn't sound like Trump understands it either. This country was built by immigrants, but at 320 million people we seem to be fully occupied now.
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Whether I travel across the country or even in this great city, I am constantly perplexed by how many Americans do not speak English, not even a few words, beyond "hello" or "thanks". What would our country look like if some spoke German, others Russian, some Hungarian, some Polish, some Italian, some Turkish.. no one would be able to communicate. Yet, that is what I am finding today. The folks who speak Spanish from South and Central America just seem to not care about learning English. Now, taking it a step further, in the Muslim communities in Michigan they are not assimilating. We have also failed here at the melting pot or these people do not want to assimilate.
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There are no Republicans or Democrats in foxholes and all we need is another one or two terrorist attacks--and surely they will come-- and this election will be blown wide open. Have we already forgotten Maslow's hierarchy of needs? Safety is no. 2 right after the basics of food and shelter. This election will be driven by events and no one should be too smug about the outcome.
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People are scared, frightened and upset with terrorism in the U.S. They want a leader who is tough spoken and ready for action. Trump fills the bill and the rest of the Presidential candidates need to step up to the plate. Just remember, Trump has had a long time and much experience with different personalities in his many ventures. He reads people well and is relating to them much to the chagrin of the current crop of pols.
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Apparently her focus groups are telling her to quit giggling at Trump.
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In the Assault on Reason, Al Gore made a compelling case for why Democracy is impossible without a reasoning body of citizens, and how in America, reason has been eroded via excessive Television-watching.
The phenomenon that is Donald Trump encapsulates this position perfectly.
The phenomenon that is Donald Trump encapsulates this position perfectly.
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Con artists are very likable people: it's their stock in trade. They know how to target their prey and how to manipulate them in order to rob them. The same is true of demagogues: they often have great magnetism and they know how to connect with people's deepest fears and vices. There are examples in 20th-century history such as Hitler and Mussolini.
The parallels are striking. So many people talk about how they like Trump's speaking his mind, the way he says what they assume everyone is thinking (because they think like this), the way he proposes simplistic (though unworkable) solutions to complex problems, the way he addresses their deepest fears (of immigrants, of the 'other') and validates their worst instincts (racism, xenophobia, bigotry).
They support this man no matter how despicably he acts, no matter how extreme his rhetoric. These people are deeply complicit with the racism and xenophobia. When the scandal about Paula Deen's use of the N word came out, one commenter wrote plaintively, "Everyone says the "N" word occasionally". No, they don't - most of us would never use it in any context.
Over and over again, conservatives complain about being insulted -- "they" are not really racists; "they" are not really Islamophobes; "they" are not really bigots. They should look in their mirrors. If they support this man and all the hateful things he says and proposes, yes, they are.
The parallels are striking. So many people talk about how they like Trump's speaking his mind, the way he says what they assume everyone is thinking (because they think like this), the way he proposes simplistic (though unworkable) solutions to complex problems, the way he addresses their deepest fears (of immigrants, of the 'other') and validates their worst instincts (racism, xenophobia, bigotry).
They support this man no matter how despicably he acts, no matter how extreme his rhetoric. These people are deeply complicit with the racism and xenophobia. When the scandal about Paula Deen's use of the N word came out, one commenter wrote plaintively, "Everyone says the "N" word occasionally". No, they don't - most of us would never use it in any context.
Over and over again, conservatives complain about being insulted -- "they" are not really racists; "they" are not really Islamophobes; "they" are not really bigots. They should look in their mirrors. If they support this man and all the hateful things he says and proposes, yes, they are.
Trump succeeds because he tells things as he sees them, not usual practice among politicians who tell things as they wish them to be to pull the wool over the eyes of their base. The Republicans are tied in knots because they read the polls, and not a one of the declared wannabe POTUS candidates is electable, even the Donald. He wins polls because he says what his base wants to hear - like telling wealthy Jewish donors in California that "you are negotiators - deal-makers. I make deals, too!". He promised to meet with Netanyahu in Israel, then canceled and bragged he'd meet with Netanyahu in Israel after he wins the Presidency. The Democrats are no longer smiling or snickering. They are better at reading the writing on the wall (i.e. "Donald Trump you have been judged and found wanting"), and it will take some doing for both parties to bell the Donald Cat during or before the coming primaries and Super Tuesday. Polls generally don't mean diddly, but reading Trump's leading poll numbers is cause for anguish among Republicans and Democrats. We read 'em and weep.
http://www.nytimes.com/
http://www.nytimes.com/
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This coming presidential election is not nor should it be likened to a horse race between the Democrats and the Republicans for it is at the very core about ALL of us (at least the majority of us).
If we now have a Plutocracy, it is fundamentally because over the years, we have been conditioned to view elections as unnecessary and uncritical to our lives and look at what we have now.
A few owning virtually all (opportunities included) leaving just bits of scraps for the rest of us to fight over.
I can appreciate being influenced by the heart for we are human beings still after all but let's not ignore reason. Relying on it will take us further and closer to our goals.
Oni Sioson
East Haven, CT.
If we now have a Plutocracy, it is fundamentally because over the years, we have been conditioned to view elections as unnecessary and uncritical to our lives and look at what we have now.
A few owning virtually all (opportunities included) leaving just bits of scraps for the rest of us to fight over.
I can appreciate being influenced by the heart for we are human beings still after all but let's not ignore reason. Relying on it will take us further and closer to our goals.
Oni Sioson
East Haven, CT.
Ms. Clinton needs to recognize that Trump's fans are clamoring for reassurance. Having been whipped into a frenzy of fear by The Donald, his competitors and the right-wing media, they want a leader who will outline an effective response to terrorism.
The Donald obliged them by picking on a reviled minority. We've seen this movie before. It never ends well.
Ms. Clinton should gather her counter-terrorism advisers together and come up with a three-point plan (no more, no less) that lays out, in simple terms, steps that can be taken NOW to protect Americans from Islamic extremists. It doesn't matter if the steps are already being taken: People clearly aren't aware of them. They need to know that somebody is doing something, the sooner the better.
The Donald obliged them by picking on a reviled minority. We've seen this movie before. It never ends well.
Ms. Clinton should gather her counter-terrorism advisers together and come up with a three-point plan (no more, no less) that lays out, in simple terms, steps that can be taken NOW to protect Americans from Islamic extremists. It doesn't matter if the steps are already being taken: People clearly aren't aware of them. They need to know that somebody is doing something, the sooner the better.
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Do people really still believe that this attention starved egomaniac wants to lead our country for 4 years? Trump is feeding off the right wing paranoia that he helped create and that catapulted him to the top of the polls right now. All the free press and attention is like oxygen, or heroin, to this man. But, since he really has just slogans and poll numbers and no clear answers to serious policy questions, either those poll numbers and with them his motivation will decline and disappear, or he will declare before too long that he needs to do "bigger things" for this country and slink away to keep selling his name brand from Dubai to New York. The media have kept this man far too long in the game. He is good business, he gets ratings, even this paper has 4 pieces about the Donald just today. Trump will not sit in the Oval Office and make decisions affecting the world's future, he knows he is in over his head. For him this is a game that he will end at his convenience, while declaring himself the "true winner" after the elections, when we actually will have voted for a real person, not a game show. host.
The shooting in California while horrific does not mean the conventional type of terrorism - in other words involving Muslims - is rampant in the U.S. But people like Trump and other conseratives will exploit it and the fear it generates. The real terrorism is the daily gun violence in urban areas. Not very dramatic though. Hillary will tear Trump apart in debates.
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I am an interfaith minister, I run an institution, I play by your rules, and I am a reasonable man. that's why I would never vote for Hillary Clinton and I will vote at this time for Mr Donald Trump
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Hillary Clinton is not the only Democrat who is running for president. Stop shilling for her and start paying attention to Bernie Sanders.
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Donald Trump is just here to split the Republican vote and allow the Democrats a chance for a third term.
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What's shameful is that even semi-intelligent voters would consider supporting a corrupt, greedy individual like Clinton. Aside from being incompetent, she views herself as above the law. And there is any reason whatsoever to support her?
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Trump is a bully. The Republicans who follow him are responding like middle-schoolers who follow the "toughest" kid on the playground so they can feel tough as well. But Trump is far, far more dangerous because he's playing on a national stage. If Clinton sounds like the principal, it's because she's literally the only adult in the room. (Sorry Bernie fans, he has no chance).
The fact of the matter is, Donald Trump is saying publicly, (granted, in a bombastic and not so eloquent fashion) what a huge percentage of the American people are thinking. With political correctness, common sense goes out the window. He knows that, we know that, hence he has tapped into a nerve of the American public that no politicians dare to even consider. With that said, I do not believe he will be the next U.S. president and I would certainly never vote for him, but I do enjoy how he stirs the pot and gives career politicians pause to rethink their complacent status quo.
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Trump's popularity? Easy. There are a vast number of people, in what east and west coasters call fly-over country, who are tired of the establishment politicians. Both parties. What do we have to choose from? The Democrat's choice has a graveyard of skeletons and scandal. Her performance as a Senator and Secretary of State was mediocre at best. The GOP establishment wants another Bush in the White House. Please god, not another Bush.
So who are you going to be excited about? A charismatic billionaire who promises solutions to the issues that fly-over country people think are important. Duh
So who are you going to be excited about? A charismatic billionaire who promises solutions to the issues that fly-over country people think are important. Duh
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I think the hate Trump is spreading, if any, is against dishonest and incompetent politicians. As obnoxious and wrong as he might be to some, others consider him to be a non-politically correct American patriot.
The elephant in the room the politicians and pundits can't or won't address is the unpleasant possibility that millions and millions of potential of American voters are shallow, poorly informed and easily pandered to. Many of these voters are comforted by easy answers, by black/white, us vs them dichotomies.
Trump not only spews hate but spews stupidity. How does he propose to tell a muslim from a christian? A christian from an atheist? Folks, his play falls right into ISIS playbook. A how to as to how to radicalize other muslims. And what does Trump plan to do with our home grown terror which is killing more Americans every year than and external threat?
I think it's time to take Trump seriously. When I immigrated to America in the 90s, I did so because America was strong and proud. It is now a shadow of its former self. I want America to be great again. I want the world to know, especially the Chinese and the Islamic World, what it means to talk to the greatest nation on Earth. We must become awesome again.
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Why don't we just change the name of the USA to simply Iowa, and be done with it. For the last six months it's felt like that's where I must be living because all the references for who I might be voting for for our president has been made in regard to just Iowa. Just because whatever turns Iowans on - on - is no reason for it to naturally be assumed by the media and covering press that that's whatever turns everybody else on. By putting all the emphasis on such a narrowly select demographic and their political bent and pandering to that, ends up making it like to the rest of the world that the US is an all white, strictly Christian nation whose only book is the bible . . . which it ain't. Trump is not the problem, it's the whole tainted political mechanism that created him.
Stereotype much?
NYT- please do not use the word "giggle" when referring to Secretary Clinton's laughing. It's a word, like "squeal," that diminishes. Secretary Clinton needs to go for Trump's jugular on the intolerance issue. She's got to trounce him. No appeasement. Most forceful possible condemnation possible. We know she has that killer instinct.
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Republicans are so well-versed in race-baiting and fear-mongering that the Dems are at a clear disadvantage. Fear makes people impetuous (read, s-t-u-p-i-d). So, let's remain calm and vote for the candidate who doesn't scare people.
If a candidate needs to hire an anthropologist to understand the people he or she wants to "represent" then they have no business running for office. To quote the President's press secretary, Hillary is disqualified from running for the Presidency.
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Donald J. Trump.....a candidate whose first concern is Americans living in America.....what a concept
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People will say what is socially acceptable. Reality is majority of the people will vote for Trump. And Trump will win for President because majority of democrats will vote for Trump. The vote is do you want Muslims yes or no. "No " wins.... Trump for Prez. Reality check... Play a clip of the barbaric wars. .... All groups mentality is the same.... They chop of heads. You want that mentality in your country?
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Trump has been working for Clinton from the beginning.
The goal is the complete destruction of the GOP, leading to one party rule by the Clinton family.
Looks like they may have mobilized enough of the yokels and yahoos to pull it off.
The goal is the complete destruction of the GOP, leading to one party rule by the Clinton family.
Looks like they may have mobilized enough of the yokels and yahoos to pull it off.
Yes Trump isn't a laughing matter to the democrats any longer, but Hillary is a laughing matter to just about everyone else.
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Hillary can publicly deny Donald Trump all day long. He is most likely going to be the next President and she is going to be the next peasant. Sorry if that offends any peasants.
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I found it in one of these comments: "We aren't fearful, we're furious".
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If this country is ready for another --much bigger war--a war that will be brought to our soil, then a vote for Donald Trump is a vote for a third world war...be afraid of this man...very afraid.
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Reagan 1979. Trump 2015. How quickly we forget.
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i love donald trumph he finally igured out that all muslims are no terrorist but amost 90% of terrorist happends to be muslims, i so happy he suggest to keep a closer monitoring on them to see whats going on in their religion that causes these people to hate the rest of the world so much when they claim their religion is teaching only peace, im an immigrant and i love you man full support to the end.
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When median wages go down persistently, anything can happen. Add a bank collapse and multiply the effects. As is usually the case, this is an economic problem.
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Remember the ebola scare. Trump wanted to close off our borders. People flipped out at the idea of bringing one of our own doctors back to the states for treatment. Well, we didn't close the borders and the world-wide ebola epidemic didn't happen. The doctor even lived. Sure it's horrible when people are killed by terrorists. It's horrible when people are killed by white Americans like the Newtown shooter also. But this full blown panic isn't justified. You are far more likely to be killed in an auto accident than walk out your door and be greeted by a Syrian with pipe bombs. The purpose of terrorists is to force us to change our way of life. If we give in to one of your basic principles of being a haven for the downtrodden, then the terrorists have already won. Contrary to what Chicken Little thinks - and the media leads you to believe- the sky is not falling,
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I'll remember your Chicken Little advice the next time I read a "global warming" story. Democrats are afraid of things they can't see (future weather) and turn a blind eye towards real and present dangers.
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"Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few."~ GEORGE BERNARD SHAW
Democrats, trust me, there is nothing to figure out. The summary is as simple as it is volatile: 2003 Iraq = 2015 ISIL.
Do not confuse Mr. Trump's hijinks for stupidity.
He is smart enough to have successfully tapped into a deep American vein where violence, hubris, arrogance, delusion, self-deception, cultural inferiority, bias, bigotry, racism, nativism, jingoism and, most importantly, fear – of vulnerability and decline – now flow freely and that its own actions, without accountability, have breached and overcome.
Fear is taken over the "land of the brave" and America realizes that it is no longer coddled between two massive bodies of water now easily forded.
The United States has been at war 93% of its existence, 222 out of 239 years, yet only 3 of those wars have taken place on it's own soil: the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, a century-and-a-half ago.
In the novel THE UGLY AMERICAN by EUGENE BURDICK and WILLIAM LEDERER a Burmese journalist says "For some reason, the [American] people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. THEY ISOLATE THEMSELVES SOCIALLY. THEY LIVE PRETENTIOUSLY. THEY ARE LOUD AND OSTENTATIOUS."*
The "ugly American" has now raised his head ... at home.
Meet DONALD J. TRUMP, America!
* EMPHASIS mine.
Democrats, trust me, there is nothing to figure out. The summary is as simple as it is volatile: 2003 Iraq = 2015 ISIL.
Do not confuse Mr. Trump's hijinks for stupidity.
He is smart enough to have successfully tapped into a deep American vein where violence, hubris, arrogance, delusion, self-deception, cultural inferiority, bias, bigotry, racism, nativism, jingoism and, most importantly, fear – of vulnerability and decline – now flow freely and that its own actions, without accountability, have breached and overcome.
Fear is taken over the "land of the brave" and America realizes that it is no longer coddled between two massive bodies of water now easily forded.
The United States has been at war 93% of its existence, 222 out of 239 years, yet only 3 of those wars have taken place on it's own soil: the Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, a century-and-a-half ago.
In the novel THE UGLY AMERICAN by EUGENE BURDICK and WILLIAM LEDERER a Burmese journalist says "For some reason, the [American] people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. THEY ISOLATE THEMSELVES SOCIALLY. THEY LIVE PRETENTIOUSLY. THEY ARE LOUD AND OSTENTATIOUS."*
The "ugly American" has now raised his head ... at home.
Meet DONALD J. TRUMP, America!
* EMPHASIS mine.
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What is "ISIL?"
One of the many monikers the US wrongheadedly uses for an Islamist group officially called 'Daesh' because no one knows what or where it is. The 'L' stands for "Levant".
ISIL, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
Levant is the historical term referring to a large area in the eastern Mediterranean. The Levant included all of the eastern Mediterranean with its islands, all of the countries along the eastern Mediterranean shores, extending from Greece to Cyrenaica (eastern coastal Libya). The term Levant derives from the Italian Levante, "rising", the rising of the sun in the east, equivalent to the Arabic term Mashriq, 'the land where the sun rises'.
It's the area where, in 2003, the United States of America started the mess the world is trying to deal with now.
I prefer it to the other American misnomer, ISIS, because, aside from it being a common female name, it is the name of the Egyptian goddess worshiped as the ideal mother, the prototype of the Christian image of the Madonna and Child.
See http://www.from-the-doghouse.com/CANINE_QUOTES/Anasagasti/Noose_and_Nail...
That's me.
Had I used the name Daesh, most of "exceptional" America would be befuddled.
I sincerely hope your comment is in jest. If not, then I'll add the following from that great American statesman, BEN FRANKLIN: "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
Sorry I extended myself but I'm a teacher. I teach. Can't resist. Ignorance is painful.
ISIL, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
Levant is the historical term referring to a large area in the eastern Mediterranean. The Levant included all of the eastern Mediterranean with its islands, all of the countries along the eastern Mediterranean shores, extending from Greece to Cyrenaica (eastern coastal Libya). The term Levant derives from the Italian Levante, "rising", the rising of the sun in the east, equivalent to the Arabic term Mashriq, 'the land where the sun rises'.
It's the area where, in 2003, the United States of America started the mess the world is trying to deal with now.
I prefer it to the other American misnomer, ISIS, because, aside from it being a common female name, it is the name of the Egyptian goddess worshiped as the ideal mother, the prototype of the Christian image of the Madonna and Child.
See http://www.from-the-doghouse.com/CANINE_QUOTES/Anasagasti/Noose_and_Nail...
That's me.
Had I used the name Daesh, most of "exceptional" America would be befuddled.
I sincerely hope your comment is in jest. If not, then I'll add the following from that great American statesman, BEN FRANKLIN: "We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
Sorry I extended myself but I'm a teacher. I teach. Can't resist. Ignorance is painful.
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Anybody is better than Hillary. She is another corrupt dishonest politician.
The news media is helping Trump with their biased, inaccurate reporting. Trump didn't propose banning all Muslims as the liberal media is reporting.
He proposed TEMPORARILY stopping all Muslim IMMIGRATION until they could be properly vetted.
Why because both our homeland security director and FBI director have said we can't properly vet Syrian immigrants who happen to be 99% Muslim.
All Americans should be asking why Obama and Hillary aren't concerned about this since ISIS has stated an intention to use these immigrants to infiltrate the United States.
The news media is helping Trump with their biased, inaccurate reporting. Trump didn't propose banning all Muslims as the liberal media is reporting.
He proposed TEMPORARILY stopping all Muslim IMMIGRATION until they could be properly vetted.
Why because both our homeland security director and FBI director have said we can't properly vet Syrian immigrants who happen to be 99% Muslim.
All Americans should be asking why Obama and Hillary aren't concerned about this since ISIS has stated an intention to use these immigrants to infiltrate the United States.
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When you look at the candidates on both sides but very specifically Mr. Donald Trump, he not really a problem as a whole because he has issues, the problem really is the people who are fueling this man and his ideology is giving us a glimpse to the state of mind and lack of sound judgement and knowledge a vast majority of people in America have. This is 2015 and you still have people growing dumber and more stupid with all the resources technology, information and education available in America. I still very much believe educating and enlightening people will make sound judgement more attainable.
I grew up working class. At 18 it was a natural thing to register as a democrat.
The fact that Trump is appealing to working and middle class voters is a shocking indictment of the Democratic Party and how little they actually offer to working people. When will they understand that the one thing working class people want most is self-empowerment. In other words, jobs that offer an income that's enough to let them call the shots in their own lives. They're not looking for a government to "give" us what they decide we should need.
The working class - which is now filled with once-middle class people who have slipped down a couple of rungs on the economic ladder - are not looking for more empty promises of more government give-always. They're desperately looking for someone with a plan to restore our economy so we can get back to earning a real living and having enough to help those who cannot work.
The fact that Trump is appealing to working and middle class voters is a shocking indictment of the Democratic Party and how little they actually offer to working people. When will they understand that the one thing working class people want most is self-empowerment. In other words, jobs that offer an income that's enough to let them call the shots in their own lives. They're not looking for a government to "give" us what they decide we should need.
The working class - which is now filled with once-middle class people who have slipped down a couple of rungs on the economic ladder - are not looking for more empty promises of more government give-always. They're desperately looking for someone with a plan to restore our economy so we can get back to earning a real living and having enough to help those who cannot work.
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I remember when all used to Lough and don't even consider Trump as a candidate.
This is how happen in the world always.
When people underestimate some one, they became blind to his strengths.
Because of the current situation of the country..
I see no better candidate than Trump...
Obliviously we need a MAD MAX to control the Madness of Radicals.
This is how happen in the world always.
When people underestimate some one, they became blind to his strengths.
Because of the current situation of the country..
I see no better candidate than Trump...
Obliviously we need a MAD MAX to control the Madness of Radicals.
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title 8 US code: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
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Hillary: keep it simple and consistent. Dems need to learn from Karl Rove. In messaging, consistent trumps comprehensive or elegant. Fight his fearmongering with the same language.
"Donald Trump is dangerous and must be stopped".
"Donald Trump is dangerous and must be stopped".
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I am a Democrat, lifelong, and to me Clinton is a much more dangerous politician that Trump every was. She is much scarier.
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Trump's appeal is no mystery. It comprises two features which work together to comfort his adherents who appear to be, generally, ignorant persons of low intellect. One feature is Trump's rude boasting about his own imagined superior intelligence. The other feature consists of his egotistic yet patently stupid admonitions and proclamations. Here is a model matching the typical thought process of ignorant persons of low intellect having issues with self-esteem, who conceive similar misperceptions of reality and take comfort when they are simultaneously reassured that such conceptions are products of high intelligence. You can find this pattern repeatedly expressed in Trump's every speech and interview.
Of course if the Democratic Party had not lost its way and not thrown its traditional base - working class voters - under the bus, we wouldn't be talking about Donald Trump, would we?
But, it is far easier for elitist, out-of-touch Democratic party supporters to moan about the phenomena of Donald Trump than to admit their focus on the "needs" of "ascendant" demographic groups has been a dismal failure because all it has accomplished is give us GOP majorities in most state houses and both house of Congress because the real people who are powerless in this country - ordinary Americans - want a voice, any voice, to speak for them.
But, it is far easier for elitist, out-of-touch Democratic party supporters to moan about the phenomena of Donald Trump than to admit their focus on the "needs" of "ascendant" demographic groups has been a dismal failure because all it has accomplished is give us GOP majorities in most state houses and both house of Congress because the real people who are powerless in this country - ordinary Americans - want a voice, any voice, to speak for them.
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If Clinton could laugh at Trump after his comments about Mexican immigrants, then we have to reconsider her fitness for public office too. Never mind every bit of hateful nonsense that has come out of his mouth since then.
Democrats aren't laughing at Trump because he's no laughing matter. He might be a LAUGHING STOCK but he's otherwise not funny. What his candidacy has brought out into the open is that there exists a large portion of the American electorate that harbors racist, bigoted and otherwise neanderthal views on just about anything and everything that make up a so-called "modern society". These people have always existed but it's only with the advent of Trump that they've crawled out from under their rocks into the open. This is, ultimately, a good thing. It's far better to know one's enemy than to have them hiding in the shadows. Pity that such a large number of these people exist but that's simply a fact of life that can't be ignored. The way in which America responds to all this will be the test of how we develop over the next several decades. I only wish that it were possible to sleep through the election cycle and be woken up once it's all over because it's become a painful and sick spectacle.
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Trump is not the problem. The 40% Americans who agree with him are. They get a perverse joy from seeing Trump go well over the line and attack defenseless people.
Lampooning Trump isn't going to change the adoration he garners from Fox and friends. And the rural, white, uneducated, older male and female demographic. Now, TV is filled with nauseating self-righteous rejectors of the Trump message; hearkening back to the 1980s preaching about race relations on American TV. Preachers come last.
Hillary is better off: (a) focusing on raising money, and (b) feeding grassroots effort to 'get the votes out' so that more people come out to vote.
Lampooning Trump isn't going to change the adoration he garners from Fox and friends. And the rural, white, uneducated, older male and female demographic. Now, TV is filled with nauseating self-righteous rejectors of the Trump message; hearkening back to the 1980s preaching about race relations on American TV. Preachers come last.
Hillary is better off: (a) focusing on raising money, and (b) feeding grassroots effort to 'get the votes out' so that more people come out to vote.
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what i find particularly funny about the fans of The Donald is how they seem to be oblivious to something that is so perfectly clear to everyone else.
the man is a used car salesman who just happened to have a rich daddy. and as a used car salesman he knows exactly what to say to get what he wants.
right now he knows the best way to get ahead in the polls is to come across as this tough staunch conservative, so hes gonna say whatever he knows will stick with a certain type of low intelligence (sorry i meant low information...) voter
the fact that people can look at him and his history and background and actually believe he stands for anything he has said so far is an indictment on his followers more than on him
the man is a used car salesman who just happened to have a rich daddy. and as a used car salesman he knows exactly what to say to get what he wants.
right now he knows the best way to get ahead in the polls is to come across as this tough staunch conservative, so hes gonna say whatever he knows will stick with a certain type of low intelligence (sorry i meant low information...) voter
the fact that people can look at him and his history and background and actually believe he stands for anything he has said so far is an indictment on his followers more than on him
Trump stopped being funny when he was polled 5 points ahead of the Hillary. Because people that watch their employees die, hang out with the Muslim Brotherhood, and get foreign donations from ISIS supporting Nations should be President.
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His appeal? He actually seems to be speaking for Americans instead of Mexicans and Central Americans. Also, he's not afraid to protect Americans at the risk of hurting Middle Eastern feelings by TEMPORARILY halting immigration from those countries so our incompetent government can, maybe, hopefully find out who they are letting into this country. Oh, the only fascists I see are on American college campuses.
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Absolutely! Trump is championing America, the values that make it great, and Americans themselves. It is driving the Washington Cartel and their lapdog media crazy. You know Trump is on your side because both theiving parties hate home with venom. The Washington Cartel does not want their gravy train to end.
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Where's Joe Biden when you need him? He'd stand up to Trump in a heartbeat and have put him in his place long ago. I'm still waiting on Clinton and Sanders.
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I have to laugh at the idea that Republicans may be wringing their hands over Trump's prospects. Uh, the last Republican president had U.S. armed forces wage a virtually unilateral war of aggression that took out Iraq's government, violently destabilized that country for years, and made possible the rise of Islamists in a country that had previously been governed by iron-fisted secularists. Meanwhile, the main incubator of crazed, intolerant, fanatical Islamist ideology (Saudi Arabia) was left alone.
And Republicans are worried that Trump could be their nominee? They should be far more worried that George W. Bush's younger brother could somehow still steal the nomination away and be on the ballot come November 8, 2016.
And Republicans are worried that Trump could be their nominee? They should be far more worried that George W. Bush's younger brother could somehow still steal the nomination away and be on the ballot come November 8, 2016.
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“It’s O.K., it’s O.K. to be afraid,” she said. “When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,” she added. “But then you pull yourself together and, especially, if you want to be a leader of our country, and you say:‘O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?’
In the face of current events, I believe Mr. Trump fully answered those two questions . . .
In the face of current events, I believe Mr. Trump fully answered those two questions . . .
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I do too, but that doesn't make me qualified to be POTUS
I believe a temporary blockade of islamic guests will not hurt US. You can always look at it later and if things are fine, welcome them.But the love of these guys is not to the nation but to the religion -only their way is right=I agree with trump on temporary hold up
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If we want to eliminate ISIS we need the help of Muslims. The "blockage" is not what America is about.
Sanders vs Trump
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The reason Trump will win and Hillary will lose is Trump understands the business of politics, and Hillary is still playing the politics of politics. Same with the media. Trump is eating the lunch of others so frequently his biggest problem is not what he says, but obesity....
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Trump knows zero of politics... or the "business" of politics.
He has never studied the Constitution (that is why he is willing to do things which are unconstitutional)... he has never held an elected public office and doesn't know his way around how government works. He is not qualified to hold the highest office in our land. No time for on the job training.
Plus, he has gone bankrupt 4x. Trust him with the economy?
He has never studied the Constitution (that is why he is willing to do things which are unconstitutional)... he has never held an elected public office and doesn't know his way around how government works. He is not qualified to hold the highest office in our land. No time for on the job training.
Plus, he has gone bankrupt 4x. Trust him with the economy?
With every new revelation regarding the S.B. Shooters, the failures of the Obama Administration become more and more alarming and the reasons to trust their assurances of proper vetting of refugees become less and less believable.
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Weekly we are terrorized by public shootings by American, white gunmen.
We have a greater chance of being killed by an American gun owner than ISIS. Do you advocate "vetting" people who want to buy guns?
We have a greater chance of being killed by an American gun owner than ISIS. Do you advocate "vetting" people who want to buy guns?
I’ll begin to worry when Stephen Colbert and Trevor Noah take him seriously and stop using ‘The Donald’ as the target of their jokes.
It is disturbing that 35% of the Republican base take Trump seriously as a candidate for POTUS.
It is more disturbing that a significant portion of the population has been terrorized by 2 murderers who used legally obtained weapons of mass murder to kill 12 people.
If 2 terrorists can control the American people and their leaders by killing 12 people than those 2 terrorist have won. I'm for not letting terrorists win,
Trump supporters are the victims of terror. Trump is using that terror to control his supporters. By doing that he is supporting the goals of the terrorists.
That 35% of Republicans are too weak to stand-up to 2 terrorists and are willing to change who they are out of fear caused by 2 people is sad.
The way those of us who will not be terrorized deal with this is by supporting our very competent current POTUS continue to do the job he is doing, realizing that ISIS is not viable and will self-destruct over time if we do not send in large ground troops as they want, accepting that some more of us will likely die from terrorist attacks, and acknowledging 'The Donald' for the comedic wanna-be demagogue that he is (and the rest of the Republican candidates for the clowns that they are).
So let’s get back to the Trump jokes.