Public record shows that on May 10, 2013 Leonard Litwin donated $4,950 to state Senator Daniel Squadron's campaign. This amount was the maximum amount one could contribute to a campaign. Mr. Litwin is the owner of Glenwood Management, which as this article observes was closely involved in the scheme Mr. Silver has now been convicted of organizing. For the entire time Mr. Squadron has held elected office he and Mr. Silver have shared a district -- the Lower East Side community from which Mr. Silver rose. So I ask the question, when can we expect state Senator Daniel Squadron to return those funds?
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The fascist mafioso activities by the politicians and their oligarch cronies need to stop. I would like to see the break up of the monopolistic NY hospital system that literally blackballs and harasses minority professionals break up and become a meritocratic system.
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The German word for City Hall is Rathaus. Though we are talking about the State government here, I think we can justifiably stretch the translation to encompass our own Rat House. Plaudits to Preet for bringing down the #2 rat. Let's see if #1 escapes. And by the way, everyone downstate who clucks at the "corruption in Albany" should take note of where these rats come from - it ain't Albany. Next up (down) is Skelos, maybe the most inept corrupt politician of all time.
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Mr Silver became arrogant. The Lopez scandal should have taken him down. Hubris, Mr. Silver, hubris.
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My father, Joseph J. Santora, self-published a book two years ago about corruption in the NY state legislature: Sheldon's Web available on Amazon in paperback or Kindle versions. In it, my father details his 10-year battle in trying to expose dysfunction, corruption, and/or criminal conduct of New York State public officials, beginning with Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, who covered up a brutal rape by his counsel and caused $500,000 in taxpayer money to be paid a second rape victim. It moves on to other public officials who acted in collusion with or in thrall of Silver, and ultimately sabotaged his lawsuit to recover that money from Silver in violation of the laws of New York. It presents proscriptions and prescriptions to cure the situation—limiting terms and banning outside employment—and enlists readers in every state in the war between politicians and the people they are supposed to serve. Finally, it urges readers to contact their representatives and the media to demand reform. Let them know you are “mad as hell and won’t take it anymore.”
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Forty years in the legislature. If Joan of Arc or Mother Teresa spend that long in office they'd be corrupt. Term limits are an imperfect solution but cases like this cry out for them.
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Are there no criminal charges or disbarment actions initiated against the equally complicit senior partners in the law firms involved?
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Now its time to move on Mr Cuomo. And bag a nother dead beat who is no good for NYS
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The line between "honest graft", which is legal, and "dishonest graft", which is illegal, is not always a clear bright line. George Washington Plunkitt was fond of saying that there are so many opportunities for honest graft that a politician who engaged in dishonest graft was just plain stupid. See, "Plunkitt of Tammany Hall" --- Google it. Unless he's stupid no politician purposely engages in dishonest graft. Sheldon Silver was not stupid. When the line is blurred it causes a problem. We need clearly defined rules as to which conduct is forbidden and which conduct is permitted.
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A larger point, worth considering here, is the legal kickbacks lawyers receive for referring clients to each other. Typically the referral nets one third of the fee. This is a brazen kickback. Silver did what every lawyer does (except for the govt influence). The state should outlaw these referral "fees".
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Jeff of New York: You may not be aware that lawyer rules already require all referral fees to be disclosed to the client, who can agree to it or not. Referrals are often necessary because most attorneys concentrate their practice in a limited field of law and if one of their clients has a legal problem outside that field or outside the competence of their lawyer it is necessary to refer the client to a lawyer who is competent to handle the client's legal problem. So referrals definitely should not be prohibited.
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They are already illegal in NY. But what Silver did at the Weitz firm was not a referral fee issue. He was employed by that firm, and it is not illegal for a member of a law firm to receive any share of the fee that the other members agree to. Doesn't matter if he did any of the work or not; he gets paid for bringing in the business.
Different matter for the other firm, because Silver was not a member of that firm.
Different matter for the other firm, because Silver was not a member of that firm.
Last time Mr. Bharara got a high profile conviction, in an insider trading case, the federal appeals courts decided to invent a new standard that gutted insider trading laws and let the convicted go free. Let's see what they do now.
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Not true. What happened was the appeals court found that in convicting the defendants, the trial court had applied the wrong standard. They didn't invent a new standard; it had already been applied by other courts. Bharara, in pursuing the conviction that was later reversed, knowingly urged the trial court to apply a standard that most knowledgeable observers knew was incorrect.
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Tired of reading about politicians who serve only to get rich. I hate the thought of term limits and I hate to paint all elected officials with the same brush but what other way is there to prevent this sort of corruption.
When I was in school everybody was punished for one person chewing gum. Not fair, but certainly gave to those students who were not engaged in forbidden behavior a sense that they had a vested interest in the ones who were.
Tenure equals power in today's legislatures and power equals profits. It's like the elected officials who think they are above the rules have no moral checks and balances to guide their greedy conduct.
When I was in school everybody was punished for one person chewing gum. Not fair, but certainly gave to those students who were not engaged in forbidden behavior a sense that they had a vested interest in the ones who were.
Tenure equals power in today's legislatures and power equals profits. It's like the elected officials who think they are above the rules have no moral checks and balances to guide their greedy conduct.
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It looks like some people are trying to rationalize his crimes. Isn't it enough to throw him out just because he is a dishonest politician? Why should we have to put up with any dishonest person in government?
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Oh come on, NY Times, keep Sheldon Slver's CONVICTION on your front page. It's BIG NEWS in your state.
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Does Sheldon keep his pension and health insurance we New Yorkers pay for with our tax dollars?
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pretty sure he keeps the pension.
All the guilty democrats appear to keep them.
of course, it is up to the legislature to outlaw pensions and benefits for convicted felons , so that is not happening.
All the guilty democrats appear to keep them.
of course, it is up to the legislature to outlaw pensions and benefits for convicted felons , so that is not happening.
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This article states that Mr. Silver's financial disclosure forms showed he had "earned" a large amount of outside income. Yet, he was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of having gotten it illegally. One can "receive" illegal income, but it cannot be earned.
To the degree the former Speaker championed the causes important in NYC, it was really nothing more than doing what any Democrat from the city should be expected to do.
As a result of this conviction, and other instances of rampant corruption in NYS, many will argue to increase the salaries of legislators and make their jobs full time. For me, that's a non-starter.
Look at the numbers involved in this case, and that of Majority Leader Skelos - millions of dollars changed hands. Is anyone willing to pay them that kind of money, in order to prevent them from stealing it?
To the degree the former Speaker championed the causes important in NYC, it was really nothing more than doing what any Democrat from the city should be expected to do.
As a result of this conviction, and other instances of rampant corruption in NYS, many will argue to increase the salaries of legislators and make their jobs full time. For me, that's a non-starter.
Look at the numbers involved in this case, and that of Majority Leader Skelos - millions of dollars changed hands. Is anyone willing to pay them that kind of money, in order to prevent them from stealing it?
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Will anyone look to his secretary. Her husband is in prison for stealing from a nonprofit. Her Boss just got convicted. She has to be part of it. Time to get her.
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I love seeing this, he played an important role ushering in the unconstitutional "safe act." Just wish the rest of his cohorts get the same.
Juror Arleen Phillips quoted in the NY Times, "...It was tense and I just wanted to get out of there." Sounds like the basis for at least one leg of the appeal.
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So when do the trials start for Dr. Taub, Glenwood Mgt, Goldberg & Iryami, and Weitz & Luxemberg?
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there may be no trial for them if they cooperated with the government. We do not know all sides of this story. If anything, Weitz and Luxemberg may have breached ethical duties for giving money on referrals. But that is the call of the ethical committee.
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Exactly ! My first thoughts as I read the article.
Law firms are supposed to represent our legal system and these firms were as guilty by asking for and receiving political favor that brought much income to them and thry in turn psid kick-backs to Silver. They knew they were breaking the law and legal ethics. They evrn used lobbyists to receive such favor.
No wonder American citizens are just plain disgusted and disenchanted with legislatures that actually say these acts are not illegal/criminal.
This once again shows we need term limits. These legislators should not hold office/seats for many decades or almost life. Corruption begins there and continues to grow unabated.
Law firms are supposed to represent our legal system and these firms were as guilty by asking for and receiving political favor that brought much income to them and thry in turn psid kick-backs to Silver. They knew they were breaking the law and legal ethics. They evrn used lobbyists to receive such favor.
No wonder American citizens are just plain disgusted and disenchanted with legislatures that actually say these acts are not illegal/criminal.
This once again shows we need term limits. These legislators should not hold office/seats for many decades or almost life. Corruption begins there and continues to grow unabated.
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Some professionals are routinely paid by introducing one party to another. It is called a "Finder's Fee". They connect people who would mutually benefit. Government officials are paid to act on behalf of their constituents. Their salary is their fee fro service.
What about charges against the other parties - Weitz & Luxenberg, Dr. Taub, etc. Shouldn't someone at least be disbarred?
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they may face the wrath of the ethics committee on 61 Broadway. But if they are in good shoes with them, maybe not. There was corruption over there too in the past.
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"She said she had been the only juror who doubted Mr. Silver’s guilt at first. “There were people who did not want to listen to anything I had to say — not many, a few,” she said. “It was tense and I just wanted to get out of there.”"
Does anyone not find the above quote disturbing? This juror seems to be saying she changed her mind regarding Silver's guilt because she "wanted to get out of there."
Does anyone not find the above quote disturbing? This juror seems to be saying she changed her mind regarding Silver's guilt because she "wanted to get out of there."
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That juror is just verbalizing what happens in every honest jury room. It's designed to be a forum of give and take . Rent the movie Twelve Angry Men
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The duty of the jury is review the evidence and discuss or even argue if necessary until they can come to a unanimous decision. If she thought he wasn't guilty her duty was to argue the point. Just because the other jurors were not convinced is no excuse to try to run from the room as soon as things got a little heated. If she really believed in his innocence after the arguments she still could have stuck to her position and hung the jury. I find the other juror's dilemma more disturbing. Did he suddenly realize that his boss was Silver's friend? Or, did someone remind him?
Most people seem to think white collar crime affects only the players. I recently bought a pair of rather shabby uninsulated leather work gloves in a discount store for $7.99. The sale flyer said they had been manufactured for special ops forces and had been sold at between $97 and $214. Who do you think benefited from this disparity? Good for Preet and the team that reminded us that this is supposed to be a government "for and by the people."
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Thank you, Mr.Bharara! Well done!
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Ok so now that he's been convicted, will the government be looking into how how he killed the proposal for a west side stadium? Everyone I know thinks it could be traced back to the Dolans (owners of MSG). If that was a tainted vote then perhaps it could be re-visited. That stadium could of been one great construction project for NYC
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No surprise there, Albany is one of the most corrupt governing bodies in the country.
Next will be the plea from Silver that he is old and too frail to serve time in prison.
Next will be the plea from Silver that he is old and too frail to serve time in prison.
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Sheldon's done. Skelkos is next. Can Cuomo be far behind?
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“They look at conduct which is legal,” Mr. Molo told the jury in his opening statement, “conduct which is normal, conduct which allows government to function consistent with the way that our founding fathers of the State of New York wanted it to function, and they say this is illegal.”
This is what is wrong with America. Surely Mr. Silver is not alone in his dealings in Albany. Hoping that Bharara will keep the fire going and hoping that there is a similar prosecutor in Springfield.
This is what is wrong with America. Surely Mr. Silver is not alone in his dealings in Albany. Hoping that Bharara will keep the fire going and hoping that there is a similar prosecutor in Springfield.
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The same old same old and justice will not filter down to the the people who once again were not in bed with the big money thieves.
The ignorance and indifference of so much of the population will have this as old and unimportant news unlike the unending coverage of the ultimate narcissist, "Trump".
The useless media which facilitates the daily deceit on Wall Street.
Too little and too late to expect change.
The ignorance and indifference of so much of the population will have this as old and unimportant news unlike the unending coverage of the ultimate narcissist, "Trump".
The useless media which facilitates the daily deceit on Wall Street.
Too little and too late to expect change.
What a louse! He sounds like my legislators and governors in Illinois.
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Thank you, thank you Mr. Bharara- and not for the first time either. You have managed to help the people of NY fight the cancer of official corruption numerous times. Now, it's time for our Governor, Mr. Cuomo, to finally step up to the plate and address this issue seriously- perhaps with a reconstituted Moreland Commission as a beginning?
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I hope the judge, in assessing a penalty, takes into account Sheldon Silver's fierce defense of New York's working class and poor. For that alone he deserves leniency. For that alone is he being excoriated in so many comments here by those real estate owners and small business owners who want to profit themselves on the backs of the working class and poor.
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Vincent's comments above show how these criminals continue to get re-elected by throwing crumbs and pandering to the lowest common denominator, while demonizing the taxpaying, job creating achievers of our state (like "small business owners").
Is is any wonder NYS and City are the highest taxed places in the Country and we continue to loss our taxable and jobs to lower cost states?
Is is any wonder NYS and City are the highest taxed places in the Country and we continue to loss our taxable and jobs to lower cost states?
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Bravo, the people of NYS win big with the conviction and ridding the scourge of the likes of elected NYS officials such as long time and entrenched Speaker Sheldon Silver. Attorney General Preet Baraha is aiming much higher obviously bring on the next crook please! Andrew Cuomo must be QUAKING in his boots at the thought of how well Shelly can sing to minimize his jail - there is no more hiding under the guise of his faith that will shield him.
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No doubt the prison guards will be instructed to call him Mr. Speaker rather than Sleazy Slimy Shel.
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we are quick to knock this person down but we are not in his shoes. Just wait as more and more of our actions are criminalized and there will be no one left to judge and criticize anyone. We are only human. People need to be given a second chance. Life is short. We don't live hundreds of years. Our days pass like seconds. Please, give this man some dignity and respect.
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Cuomo's Moreland Commission could not determine Silver and Skelos where criminals. Proves the system is based on criminality. The Commission looked the other way under Cuomo's direction. I"m surprised Cuomo is not in jail yet for obstruction of JUSTICE.
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Silver should follow the lead of Donald Manes, another corrupt NYC politician, who, in the end, at least had the decency and courage to do the right thing. Do the right thing Shelly.
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This verdict has saddened a lot of people, particularly Sheldon Silver's constituents in the Lower East Side who returned him to office in the New York State Assembly for nearly 40 years. Why? Because he was an extremely effective legislator who fought against overcrowding in the schools and for the victims of Hurricane Sandy who were devastated by flooding in several housing projects in his district. Silver also saved rent regulations from total extinction in 1997 when Republicans sought to end these protections for more one millions tenants in New York City. Seems to me that the U.S. Attorney's office, Southern District, has indicted and then convicted a giant ham sandwich--not Silver so much as the way Albany does business. Its legislators are part-time employees and there is no cap on how much money they can make. Do they engage in quid pro quos? Why yes, folks, that's L.I.F. E. last I noticed. Silver has suffered a devastating loss for participating in business as usual. Time will tell whether he'll be vindicated on appeal.
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coming out of prison, they destroyed this person. I hope he has a lot of faith in God to carry on, especially on his wife and family.
Disgusting Democrat.
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The real question: why did it take so long to charge Silver? He got away with this deceit for years!
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Free elections will always get you government of the money, by the money and for the money. Government service should NEVER be a career choice, but an imposed duty and strictly limited in duration to one term, with zero perks.
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Silver and others would have been exposed a while ago, had Gov. Cuomo not tampered with the Moreland commission. Is there an act II Mr. Bharara ?
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There should be term limits, I am sorry to see anyone have a problem however from what I read he was guilty. Enjoy your stay in jail.
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I believe he will find a judge friend to overturn conviction on appeal. However, i think he is officially out of office now which is most important.
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If you look at statistics of appeals , 99 percent are not overturned.
I’m afraid, unlike most of the posters here, that I take no joy in this verdict. It’s important to contain corruption (as fallen beings, we will never eliminate it), but I’m disturbed by the arrogance of the prosecutor. Before he’s done, he will do more damage than good for the lives of New Yorkers. He shows all the signs of unbridled ambition and huge self-regard that are apparently prerequisites for U.S. prosecutors on the make.
Now we’re hearing talk of “cleaning up” Albany. Who really believes that? Albany will be careful for a while, and then go back to business as usual.
It also seems that at least two of the jurors felt coerced into voting with the majority. That seems like grounds for an appeal.
Now we’re hearing talk of “cleaning up” Albany. Who really believes that? Albany will be careful for a while, and then go back to business as usual.
It also seems that at least two of the jurors felt coerced into voting with the majority. That seems like grounds for an appeal.
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Cleaning up NY's Super Corrupt Courts, built by Sheldon Silver, is the real issue. Corrupt judges, lawyers, no audio, video, court reporters, No Due Process...thanks to Silver."There is one other thing Silver could do for Weitz & Luxenberg. He could help make sure that the New York judiciary would look favorably on asbestos cases. The chief judge of the New York State Court of Appeals, Jonathan Lippman, is a childhood friend of Silver’s. And, in 2008, Lippman placed Silver’s good friend Arthur Luxenberg — yes, the same Luxenberg who was paying Silver $120,000, plus referral fees — on a committee that recommends judicial appointments. Six months later, a judge named Sherry Klein Heitler was assigned to lead New York City’s dedicated asbestos court."http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/31/opinion/joe-nocera-new-yorks-real-scan...
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Silver is a politician who has become obscenely wealthy because of the elected office he held for many years. Who else is in this category? How about Hillary and Bill Clinton? From "dead broke" to multi-millionaires. If Hillary Clinton becomes president, she can pardon Silver, just like her husband pardoned Marc Rich.
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Are there any honest politicians left?. None of them will even answer a direct question. Sickening.
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Another totally disgusting thief and this went on for some time. The money is too easy for these people and they have no conscience. And with this country going more towards "government" more people will have their hand in the pot. It is a no win situation for the tax paper. Silver is "71" and apparently was too comfortable and thought he would never get caught; there must be term limits. And Dr Taub should lose his medical license.
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When the people on the top are corrupt, the is no hope for honest government.
Why shouldn't every police officer, fireman, and LIRR trainman claim a job-related disability to inflate his pension when the top legislators sell their offices for cold cash?
I hope the sentence is commensurate with the damage Mr. Silver did to his state.
Why shouldn't every police officer, fireman, and LIRR trainman claim a job-related disability to inflate his pension when the top legislators sell their offices for cold cash?
I hope the sentence is commensurate with the damage Mr. Silver did to his state.
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"Profit became a crime". This will be the headlines in the not so distant future. Eventually, every type of referral by any business will become a crime and every one will be jailed. But don't worry, taxes will never be a crime.
Thank god. Now let's hope the Feds turn there attention to the real estate developers and their governmental accomplices who thwart the law under the guise of Affordable Living. On the Federal jurisdictional grounds of Public Integrity and False Claims, I nominate our governor, mayor, and the commissioners of HPD, DHCR, HDC, and Department of Finance as well as many members of the City Council who have colluded with the real estate industry to circumvent the 421-a law for the sole purpose of greed. For more information go to
http://www.propublica.org/article/landlords-fail-to-list-fifty-thousand-...
https://www.propublica.org/article/nyc-landlords-flout-rent-limits-but-s...
and stay tuned for their upcoming article chronicling how a major real estate developer, currently setting up shop in Williamsburg, devised a fraud using 421-a to cheat tenants and illegally force them out at a building in Brooklyn and the cast of city agencies who facilitated his corruption.
http://www.propublica.org/article/landlords-fail-to-list-fifty-thousand-...
https://www.propublica.org/article/nyc-landlords-flout-rent-limits-but-s...
and stay tuned for their upcoming article chronicling how a major real estate developer, currently setting up shop in Williamsburg, devised a fraud using 421-a to cheat tenants and illegally force them out at a building in Brooklyn and the cast of city agencies who facilitated his corruption.
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Throw the book at him! And Silver's replacement only looks like more of the same.
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Hooray for our criminal justice system and the boldness and tenacity of Mr Baharra ! Let's hope the conviction sticks through the appeals process. Silver's corrupt practices are indeed commonplace in both the state senate and assembly. We have here a perfect example of the old saying , "Pigs get fat , but hogs get slaughtered."
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It's now time for U.S. Attorney Bharara to investigate corruption at the Port Authority. Starting Sunday, drivers paying cash will have to pay $15 to cross the George Washington Bridge.
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I always remember Mr Silver as the only person in New York (Along with MSG) who didn't want the West Side Stadium to be built and unfortunately it actually came down to his vote. Thus we lost the 2012 olympics and the Giants and Jets remain The NJ Giants - Jets. Actually the NFL promised NYC a Superbowl in order to facilitate the stadiums approval but Silver still voted no. The West Side Yards are still under construction and its all going to be unaffordable housing. MSG kept their status as the go-to venue for NYC events and Mr Silver certainly and most definitely profited from it somehow, this trial and its outcome proves it. This is an example of how we were all affected by his corrupt "business as usual" politics.
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Seriously?! It has been long understood that stadiums only benefit team owners, construction companies and the politicians who chanel money to their construction. There should be celebrations in the streets of any city when a new stadium is rejected. Unaffordable housing might seem horrible to those who can't live in it but at least it brings some benefit a city which is better than no benefit from a stadium. Cities that host Olympic games also never recoup the money that it costs so really, this is what you're upset about?
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West Side Stadium? What a horror show that would have been. Thank you Mr. Silver for nixing it. And the last thing this city needs is the Olympics. The tie-up of normal and necessary city life, the cost of security. God bless and keep the Olympics ... far away from us.
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well good for you Ellen but what about the billions of dollars in revenue for our City that was lost, and the tens of thousands of jobs that would be created?
But as long as you keep your rent stabilized apartment with no rent increase everything is okay with the world.
But as long as you keep your rent stabilized apartment with no rent increase everything is okay with the world.
Shocking, absolutely shocking that a member of the NY state legislature was found guilty of corruption. Who could have imagined such a scenario?
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Illinois and Louisiana used to be infamous for the corruption of their state legislatures, but I suspect many (most?) state governments are awash in kickbacks, cronyism, and graft. I wonder what tools are needed to bring better checks and balances to the states.
Commenters have mentioned better civil tort law, making legislator jobs full-time (while banning outside income), and term limits. That last one doesn't appeal to me: it overrules the will of voters and reduces the number of experienced veteran lawmakers - many of whom are excellent.
A better reform is to end the gerrymander, with districts drawn by bipartisan commissions.
Commenters have mentioned better civil tort law, making legislator jobs full-time (while banning outside income), and term limits. That last one doesn't appeal to me: it overrules the will of voters and reduces the number of experienced veteran lawmakers - many of whom are excellent.
A better reform is to end the gerrymander, with districts drawn by bipartisan commissions.
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TERM LIMITS!
Too much power for too long = corruption.
Too much power for too long = corruption.
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The first thing that came to mind is a poem by a different "Shelley":
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Like Ozymandias, this Shelly, a king of kings for so long, also leaves behind a colossal wreck: a toothless legislature rife with corruption, but slowly being bared for all to see.
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Like Ozymandias, this Shelly, a king of kings for so long, also leaves behind a colossal wreck: a toothless legislature rife with corruption, but slowly being bared for all to see.
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Why is it not surprising that someone in a position of power who has not been seriously challenged for 40 years might abuse that position to enrich himself? New Yorkers need to pay more attention to who their representatives are in Albany. And the NY media haven't shown much interest in Teflon Sheldon's schemes either.
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What is Columbia going to do about Dr. Taub? http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/nyregion/sheldon-silver-guilty-corrupt...
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Sheldon Silver, a Democrat and not an anomalous one, has behaved exactly as most Democrats envision Republican politicians to behave. It still amazes me how so many liberals continue to think that the Democrats are somehow more righteous and less beholden to special interests (including enriching themselves illegally). So bust out your Hillary pompoms, Democrats, and whip out your pro-Trump bullhorns, Republicans, for I shall continue to reject them all and laugh at you as foolish idol worshipers. Yeah, I have a superiority complex, but when it comes to suckers who believe in Democrats or Republicans, or compared to "lesser-of-two-evil" voters, it's real easy to feel superior.
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Oh calm down Joe. I am a Democrat who has no such illusions about any politician of any stripe.
I am a Democrat NOT because there are no corrupt Democrats, but because Republicans are exponentially worse for the country.
The Democratic party does not deny climate change. It does not seek to control female reproductive rights. It does not seek to defund Obamacare. It does not pander to backwards uneducated Bible fundamentalists. I'll take that corruption over your corruption.
I am a Democrat NOT because there are no corrupt Democrats, but because Republicans are exponentially worse for the country.
The Democratic party does not deny climate change. It does not seek to control female reproductive rights. It does not seek to defund Obamacare. It does not pander to backwards uneducated Bible fundamentalists. I'll take that corruption over your corruption.
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Jules, all you've shown is that lesser-of-two-evil Democrats have poor reading comprehension and/or only hear what they want to hear. I stated clearly that I do not ally myself with either Democrat or Republican platforms, because a vote for either is a vote for corruption. Democrats are just as much in bed with Wall St as anyone, and if you don't think that fact contributes heavily to the global warming crisis you advertise as so important to you, then think again.
His defense was strange. Since other lawmakers did what he did it was ok for him to do it. What is disturbing Cuomo ran on a platform of cleaning up Albany. One of his first acts was to form the Moreland commission which he promptly disbanded. Mr. Gruber a architect of Obama care said the American people are "stupid". He hit it right on the head as we keep reelecting these crooks.
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Term limits, please. Six terms and that's it.
It would keep the crooks and the thieves out, because 12 years is about the time it takes to establish yourself in Albany. Just when it's time for the big payoff you would be forced out.
It would keep the crooks and the thieves out, because 12 years is about the time it takes to establish yourself in Albany. Just when it's time for the big payoff you would be forced out.
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Six term limits? Much too generous, talk to those who continue to vote these corrupt politicians into office time and time again.
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In the scheme of things $4 million is nothing. The Wall street people and executives make that in a year...in bonuses. I live on LI near the gold coast and money flows like wine. The cars the food the luxury goods. And the attitude is pure...lawlessness. At very least someone like Silver was in the arena and was answerable for his daily work. He did some good. He also kept the system going when he knew its flaws better than most. But the level of venality greed selfishness meanness etc. that is the heart and soul of many NYers with money and power makes Silver look like a Boy Scout. And don't get me started about the Boy Scouts... Now Skelos, the Republicans...that is another deal altogether. Pure evil. Reptilean moral codes. On Long Island, in Nassau, Newsday is cutting open the sore of the machine politics of that party and it is truly ugly. Silver would be like a saint running this county. So let's not be too holier than thou. God forbid Preet Bharara looked at some of the other Times' readers with a microscope...
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The flags are flying at half mast across thousands of loading zones which block ambulance traffic. Tomorrow, a moment of silence on Wall street as the developers who convert rent controlled apartments to condos sob. I do know that finally and at long last, Sheldon Silver will serve.
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Sheldon Silver - The people have spoken - Do not pass GO, GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL!
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How do we even begin to qualify what decisions should be deemed worthy of a "guilty or not" court decision in the way our modern political society functions? I think it is ironic that we don't question the motives behind the very prosecutors who have convinced a handful of jurors to decide on one verdict.
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Hmmmm, I guess we should start by reinforcing the notion that if you use your position in public service to enrich yourself, then you should go to jail. Prosecutors motive seemed pretty clear to me.
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If Sheldon Silver is guilty, then we are all guilty.
This is a democracy and we have no one but ourselves to blame for the state of our government.
New York State Constitution allows for a constitutional convention every twenty years (2017 is coming up next) and We the People have the power to make the changes in the electoral process that ferments corruption.
But how much more pleasurable is it for us to complain about corruption than to actually do something about it? Lethargy is the the vice that is the most corrosive of all.
This is a democracy and we have no one but ourselves to blame for the state of our government.
New York State Constitution allows for a constitutional convention every twenty years (2017 is coming up next) and We the People have the power to make the changes in the electoral process that ferments corruption.
But how much more pleasurable is it for us to complain about corruption than to actually do something about it? Lethargy is the the vice that is the most corrosive of all.
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No, Sheldon SIlver is guilty.
I have not received any kickbacks, or soft money, for my involvement in corruption. If you want further proof of who Sheldon Silver is, just investigate his dealings at Co-op Village on the Lower East Side.
If I had done the things Speaker SIlver was accused of, then I would also be guilty. But as it stands...SHELDON SILVER IS GUILTY.
I have not received any kickbacks, or soft money, for my involvement in corruption. If you want further proof of who Sheldon Silver is, just investigate his dealings at Co-op Village on the Lower East Side.
If I had done the things Speaker SIlver was accused of, then I would also be guilty. But as it stands...SHELDON SILVER IS GUILTY.
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Oh, yes, you are correct indeed? Sheldon Silver is guilty. But did you get my point? The American public is not very upset over corruption, not withstanding the loud noises they make about it. Clinton was almost thrown out of office for sexual misconduct, but was Cheney impeached for taking over $100 million in war bribes from Halliburton? No. Case closed.
In 2017 we have the chance to amend the New York State constitution. I would bet substantial cash that New York voters will do little or nothing to amend the constitution to prevent this kind of abuse.
In 2017 we have the chance to amend the New York State constitution. I would bet substantial cash that New York voters will do little or nothing to amend the constitution to prevent this kind of abuse.
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December 1, 2015
Not so fast - Sliver took the oath before the powers of State of New York to serve the people - and not his delusion billings for wanton greed and never worked for the funds grabbed except for the endorsing the checks to his most likely offshore tax shelter account. Yes 'the government' is complicit and the show goes on ... but for Sheldon let's have his contrition and retribution to his character and for strengthening the common good.
jja Manhattan, N. Y,
Not so fast - Sliver took the oath before the powers of State of New York to serve the people - and not his delusion billings for wanton greed and never worked for the funds grabbed except for the endorsing the checks to his most likely offshore tax shelter account. Yes 'the government' is complicit and the show goes on ... but for Sheldon let's have his contrition and retribution to his character and for strengthening the common good.
jja Manhattan, N. Y,
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1 down, MANY more to go!
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Although I'm glad Silver was found guilty - since I've been firmly convinced of his guilt all along - his motivation for the criminal acts makes no sense. I say this because he lives on my block, and it's a well-known fact that he lives modestly (of course, only in Manhattan or close-in outer-borough neighborhoods would we say that these co-op apartments are reasonably priced). Anyway - and not to excuse his actions - I must admit that Silver was a very good assembly person; he represented our district very effectively.
My hope is that all of the recent NYS political scandals will serve to put other politicians on notice, because the cesspool in Albany is quite disconcerting.
My hope is that all of the recent NYS political scandals will serve to put other politicians on notice, because the cesspool in Albany is quite disconcerting.
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This should have happened YEARS AGO!!! Still - nice to see he's finally being brought to justice for SOME of his crimes of corruption.
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At least, with "only" seven counts against him, the jury was able to come up with a verdict. Not so much in other cases where the prosecution confuses jurors with multiple defendants and charges, in NY and other places.
I have been following the case against Mr. Silver. Honestly I don't think he did anything wrong. I think he has been railroaded for someone else's political gain.
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I question your attention to the case. Even given the severely restrictive charges and circumstances outIned, Silver's horse trading is unethical and given the quid-pro-quo with the researcher and the real estate tax specialist, illegal. His conduct in his own district (see the Metropolitan Jewish Council money laundering practices, its corrupt, now convicted director, Rapfogel....) is shameful. The list of his illegal behaviors, non-working partnership with the slip and fall law firm, Weitz and Luxemberg, the death grip the tort bar has on the people of New York, and the Southern Boy sees nothing wrong?
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A great reason for term limits. At least your elected rep can only steal from you during his term. After that he goes back to the farm or jail.
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Just saying: if Silver and Skelos are both down, can we assume that Preet Bharara will bring charges against Andrew Cuomo anytime soon? I'm not one for hero worship, but I'd put his poster on my wall if he could deliver such a wondrous gift.
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The democrat Silver controlled the politics and lined his own pockets for years in the state assembly, and it comes down to being another democrat caught with his hands in the piggy bank. Think of all the years that he lived in the lap of luxury on money that he extorted from the people of NY.
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This is what happens when the people whom we elect to office make their own rules of conduct.......is anyone actually surprised.
Unfortunately its the same reason we will never have campaign reform and term limits until it becomes a referendum issue.
Unfortunately its the same reason we will never have campaign reform and term limits until it becomes a referendum issue.
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SDNY U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara should investigate NYS Division of Housing and Community Renewal (DHCR aka HCR), for its extensive corruption, collusion and misprision with Landlords, regarding enforcement of N.Y.S. Rent Stabilization and ETPA laws, and Landlords violating tax laws.
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Where are all the Wall St. crooks that have gone to jail Preet?
Silver's crimes are peanuts compared to what happened in the meltdown.
How many convictions have there been? Zilch!
Ask yourselves that my fellow commentators, especially those not in New York state. Save some of your anger for them.
Schadenfreude for Silver is a cheap and easy sentiment.
Silver's crimes are peanuts compared to what happened in the meltdown.
How many convictions have there been? Zilch!
Ask yourselves that my fellow commentators, especially those not in New York state. Save some of your anger for them.
Schadenfreude for Silver is a cheap and easy sentiment.
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He hasn't gone to jail yet & I suspect he never will. The two jurors who asked to be dismissed but weren't will give his lawyers something to work with & the conviction will end up reversed. I predict future prosecutions will end in mistrials & eventually he'll be deemed medically unable to stand trial.
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Please read the accompanying article on the juror who wanted to be excused. There was a question on Silver's financial disclosure form that changed her mind. He and his attorney's rolled the dice and lost , big time and now he will pay for it. He should have to forfeit his cushy tax exempt pension and return ALL of his ill gotten gains pronto. This parasite has "served" for 40 years…….40 YEARS! He got rich, very rich. It's disgusting and hopefully just the beginning.
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My two biggest complaints about Mr. Silver the deliberate blockage of a affordable housing project in his '' Exclusionary Lower East Side Neighborhood''.
Then he crushed the '' Congestion Pricing '' plan that would curtail unnecessary vehicles from entering Manhattan. He cited how the plan would disenfranchise some of his constitutes.
Power Corrupts , and the People Suffer
Then he crushed the '' Congestion Pricing '' plan that would curtail unnecessary vehicles from entering Manhattan. He cited how the plan would disenfranchise some of his constitutes.
Power Corrupts , and the People Suffer
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In what way is the Lower East Side an exclusionary neighborhood?
Do you know how much public housing already exists, and has existed for decades, in the Lower East Side? It's not a NIMBY situation, it's a "Look at my backyard already" situation. This fact seems lost on people who make this criticism.
Is it good urban planning to create an even bigger concentration of public housing?
Believe me, in no way is the neighborhood "exclusionary" sir.
Do you know how much public housing already exists, and has existed for decades, in the Lower East Side? It's not a NIMBY situation, it's a "Look at my backyard already" situation. This fact seems lost on people who make this criticism.
Is it good urban planning to create an even bigger concentration of public housing?
Believe me, in no way is the neighborhood "exclusionary" sir.
Maybe he and Skelos will get to share a cell for years to come. I suspect that even after this verdict was announced, Mr. Silver's long-deluded constituents would, if possible, continue to reelect him out of force of habit. The rest of us, Democrats included, are well rid of him and his ability to single-handedly hold up legislation in Albany.
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Couldn't happen to a nicer crook, probably won't serve a day in jail but he should. Get him out of Albany and leave his pension there as well. A convict should not be eligible for that and it should be forfeited. Next up Skelos and son. Do I hear let's make a deal in the works?
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I'll be surprised if he spends a single day behind bars.
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OK, I can't keep it zipped, what with all the baying wolves trying to look more indignant than each other, asking for more jail time. I await the drawing and quartering advocates.
Look, the man not only broke the law, but he was a good enough lawyer to be aware of the thin ice on which he skated. There must be consequences.
But all the shouting at the public square for his head will be simply more posturing and tough talk until all of us get absolutely real about the frailty, the imperfection, the galling humanness, the dishonesty and the corner-cutting that is so much a part of human nature/
I know. I know. I can hear all of you in Salem yelling that not everyone exploits a position of trust for personal gain. You are absolutely right.
But please -- all of you -- get down off the moral barricades you seem to be relishing and don't get back up until you've taken a a careful, complex, nuanced look at human nature and why so many smart people do stupid, illegal things.
I'm suffocating from all the self-righteous, "string-em-up," moral indignation.
Look, the man not only broke the law, but he was a good enough lawyer to be aware of the thin ice on which he skated. There must be consequences.
But all the shouting at the public square for his head will be simply more posturing and tough talk until all of us get absolutely real about the frailty, the imperfection, the galling humanness, the dishonesty and the corner-cutting that is so much a part of human nature/
I know. I know. I can hear all of you in Salem yelling that not everyone exploits a position of trust for personal gain. You are absolutely right.
But please -- all of you -- get down off the moral barricades you seem to be relishing and don't get back up until you've taken a a careful, complex, nuanced look at human nature and why so many smart people do stupid, illegal things.
I'm suffocating from all the self-righteous, "string-em-up," moral indignation.
Good for you, Shelly. And while we're at it, why no penalty for Weitz & Luxenburg?
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I agree. Why not raise the question of complicity for Weitz and Luxenburg? And how about that Dr Taub? No wrongdoing on the part of the law firm and the doctor?
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He deserved what he got; no friend of tenants, a slave to Glenwood and the real estate industry. maybe now we will begin to see the semblance of true democracy, not selling out to the landlords.
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Glad to see he's been convicted. However, he's still admitting no wrong-doing, & will appeal as long as the cash holds out. Given his wealth, power, & age, I'll wager he never spends a day in prison. Not even the country club kind.
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Silver has obviously done wrong, but I will always be grateful that he saved New York City from Michael Bloomberg's scheme to bring the Olympics here. That alone may have saved the city far more than the amount his corruption cost.
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Juror Arleen Phillips needs to go home and watch "Twelve Angry Men". I'm glad she was able to pull herself together and continue until a verdict was made.
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I read the NY Times and have read about many NY legislators being convicted over the past couple of years. Dang, what's going on up in Albany??...and we thought it was bad here in VA with the former governor being convicted!! That's small pennies compared to NY.
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Albany is filled with the likes of Silver they just haven't been caught yet. It makes Louisiana and Illinois politics pale in comparison.
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Albany is a cesspool of corruption that happens to be the capital of NY. It is the place where politicians gather and compete to see who can perform in a magician like manner at the highest level.
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I hope the court is merciful and exhibits some leniency - eligible for parole after 25 years served.
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Replace elections with a draft (random selection) of run of the mill people who sit one term and out, and see how quickly we the people can straighten out the whole mess. "We the politicians" have a vested interest in keeping the mess of the status quo going forever! Weasels, every one.
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Its high time that crooked politicians are punished for their crimes!!!
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The cancer of career politicians must end. There needs to be a maximum amount of time these parasites can spend bleeding our communities....
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Geez, I didn't think Liberals could be guilty of sin. So amazing that Shelly was found guilty in NYC.
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Instead of squandering public resources on sensationalist "fraud" prosecutions that erode confidence in our system of government and damage the reputations of respectable, well-connected members of the community, federal prosecutors should join forces with the Manhattan District Attorney in the ongoing effort to stamp out the scourge of inappropriately deadpan Gmail "parody" and other forms of micro-aggressive trigger-speech that illegally twist words and stir up controversy. See the documentation of America's leading criminal "satire" case at:
http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/
http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/
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Time for a thorough investigation the killing of the Moreland Commission by Cuomo.
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This shouldn't just be seen as the conviction of one man, but a long-overdue reckoning of the corruption endemic in NY state politics.
This should be seen as a beginning, not an end.
This should be seen as a beginning, not an end.
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hahaha...a conviction! I'll bet the golden boy didn't expect that. Now the poor taxi driver will need a new job...the judge will actually have to give jail time...and then the appeal...did they force those jurors to convict just to get out of there??? One of them, maybe.
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Murderous Mafia Maniacs walk, Murderous Cops walk, and a State Government figure is convicted.
If you ask me, I think all New Yorkers are crooked because they let murderers go and convict the government figures.
Aparantly, it's easy to get away with the really big crimes here in New York with a Jury trial.
Yup! The Evil Empire State, home of Americas Terrorists, the Mafia. That's why they live here. Cabish?
If you ask me, I think all New Yorkers are crooked because they let murderers go and convict the government figures.
Aparantly, it's easy to get away with the really big crimes here in New York with a Jury trial.
Yup! The Evil Empire State, home of Americas Terrorists, the Mafia. That's why they live here. Cabish?
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It's a good start. This is where Bahara should have been focused all along rather than wasting time and resources going after his Wall Street villains. Silver and his cronies are the real crooks,
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Preet Bharara for Attorney General!
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Keep him where he is, he's just getting started.
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No, Preet Bahara for governor. Doesn't matter if he's a Democrat or Republican. He has my vote.
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Sheldon Silver earned his sentence, fair and square, which is more than can be said about the corrupt money he pocketed.
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Public servants -- be they pols, cops, or inspectors -- who are caught committing a crime and betraying the public trust should be sentenced much more harshly than average citizens for the same offense.
Claiming old age or illness? Good, you can die inside prison walls that much more quickly and reduce the cost to taxpayers for your incarcerated upkeep.
Claiming old age or illness? Good, you can die inside prison walls that much more quickly and reduce the cost to taxpayers for your incarcerated upkeep.
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Unfortunately, Dr Taub was not convicted for trying to shake down a law firm, providing patients in exchange for funds to continue his lifestyle.
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Paul of Philadelphia, the funds were used for cancer research.
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He's involved in an act of criminality. Where the money went is irrelevant.
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What action, if any, will occur with respect to the now obviously corrupt influence Sheldon Silver brought to bear on rent legislation, in NY, on behalf of the powerful residential landlords, mentioned in the body of the report, legislation that may have had a far different outcome, if Mr. Silver had not interfered.
And how often has this illegal influence been brought to bear.
Thousands have likely been adversely affected by his corrupt actions. The rent legislation that resulted must be looked at, the landlords questioned about their possibly illegal interference, and adjustments made to reimburse tenants.
Shouldn't the authorities be looking at this exposure ??
And how often has this illegal influence been brought to bear.
Thousands have likely been adversely affected by his corrupt actions. The rent legislation that resulted must be looked at, the landlords questioned about their possibly illegal interference, and adjustments made to reimburse tenants.
Shouldn't the authorities be looking at this exposure ??
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Mr. Silver is a common criminal. Emphasis on Common. Emphasis on Criminal. These crimes which betray the public good and trust rise to the level of sedition. Silver should be stripped of everything including citizenship. That makes room for a few Syrian refugees who won't lie, steal, and betray.
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Anytime a politician is found guilty of corruption/malfeasance it is good for democracy. I would like to see him spend some time in Attica. The NYS Legislature is considered one of the more corrupt political bodies in the country. Clean that swamp!
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A great step toward honest NY state government. Thanks Preet Bharara!
And shame on LES voters for having this for years but not choosing honest government.
And shame on LES voters for having this for years but not choosing honest government.
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The US is permeated with corruption and is in a downward death spiral.
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An appeal coming and the final judgement will take years. He will not spend one day in jail. He is well connected!
I don't know when this will end but I am sure there will be an appeal and that this verdict will be set aside as no felony laws were broken just bureaucratic
regulation.
regulation.
You've got it backwards. If no felony laws were broken, Mr. Silver would never have been charged and convicted.
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Then tell me what felony laws did he break.
Justice finally served, but where's the money? No doubt in the Caymans or Switzerland.
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That's where Pelosi's big cash from legal insider trading is said to have gone. Imagine her & Putin playing cards in front of a Swiss mountain sunset.
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Silver deserves to share a cell with Madoff. Two sociopaths who thought they were above the law.
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I see a lot of condemnation of Mr. Silver. I hope the individuals and corporations that were paying Mr. Silver for his favors also face some consequences for their actions. Corruption is a two party crime, and I am not talking political parties (although that would probably also be correct).
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When the convicts were only able to do wrong because they held public office, the blame, like the bill, lands on the voters. Every time this man and his cronies ran for office, there was surely so sort of CHOICE that voters had before letting Silver back into his position for another term.
Hello, voters, and hello, supposedly independent news media. As the Prince of Verona said at the end of Romeo & Juliet, all are punished.
Hello, voters, and hello, supposedly independent news media. As the Prince of Verona said at the end of Romeo & Juliet, all are punished.
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The best and the brightest young people are not passionate (or even interested) in serving as elected leaders in New York State, anymore. The culture of corruption often cited during this trial is a huge part of this lack of interest and motivation.
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Along 6th ave near W.4th st. in the 80's I used to see NY city inspectors take cash from head shops selling more than just pipes and paper. Their licenses were always renewed and we always knew where to score weed, all with the approval of City Hall.
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And what of Dr. Robert N. Taub and the partners of Goldberg & Iryami and Weitz & Luxenberg? Will they join Sheldon for the corruption that required their participation?
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The good doctor got off by squealing on Silver. I believe the law firms paid him for the "referrals" so they can plead ignorance of the actions he took to get them. Obviously they are all involved but Silver was the big fish and the little ones are allowed to escape in high profile trials like this.
Praise for Preet Bharara for aggressively doing his job, and black eyes for local prosecutors for not doing theirs. I hope a few members up in Albany are shaking a bit, maybe planning to shed a few business acquaintances who might not pass the smell test, and (wishful thinking) are hanging their heads for tolerating and supporting such shameful behavior for decades.
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To those demanding term limits, be careful what you wish for. In California political corruption in the 1980s led to an extreme form of term limits. Significant costs followed: in lost expertise, in legislators chasing purely short-term objectives (and publicity) heedless of long term consequences, in hyper-politicized angling for successor jobs. Corruption has been less obvious since term limits, but in no way has it been banished, as the 2014 convictions of 2 state senators demonstrate.
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Viellicht of Los Angeles: I agree with you. That's why I think a limit of 5 two-year terms is reasonable. It's enough time to pass on the expertise but not enough time to become entrenched.
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I'm curious as to why this was such a simple and easy conviction on a state politician by the Feds, and yet with the other Federal trials of the financial industry, Bear Stearns for example, it was impossible to convict.
Who in finance has gone to jail for the last meltdown? That too seemed like it should have been an open and shut case. Who went to jail?
See the movie "Inside Job". Available on Netflix.
Who in finance has gone to jail for the last meltdown? That too seemed like it should have been an open and shut case. Who went to jail?
See the movie "Inside Job". Available on Netflix.
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The financial industry has been paying nearly everyone in government, for decades, from Congress on down to the local level, and every President, and every Presidential candidate, both parties, including Obama, so who in government is going to cut his own throat, and expose the fact that our government is owned, lock, stock, and barrel, by the corporate / military / industrial alliance.
Remember where Tim Geithner, the secretary of the Treasuary, came from, and where he went back to. All of these charlatans play a game of changing hats, they move back and forth from the private world to government, for the express purpose of swaying decision in favor of their real employers.
Remember where Tim Geithner, the secretary of the Treasuary, came from, and where he went back to. All of these charlatans play a game of changing hats, they move back and forth from the private world to government, for the express purpose of swaying decision in favor of their real employers.
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And what of former State Senator Thomas Libous and son of Binghamton. After 40 years bilking New York State taxpayers he is free because of illness. How did he hide his open corruption for so many years? Why have his constituents continued to defend his criminality?
Is it possible that the primary problem is the voters? Certainly the comments to this article seem to show a tendency to ignore facts in favor of partisanship and rank cynicism.
Is it possible that the primary problem is the voters? Certainly the comments to this article seem to show a tendency to ignore facts in favor of partisanship and rank cynicism.
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The ONLY difference between him and nearly all other career politicians is that he got caught. The rest will be that much more careful.
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We need less tanks and more prosecutors.
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Will he go to jail with his pension?
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S B Lewis of Essex County: As you can see from his contituents' comments on here he was employed and served his district well for close to 40 years. He has earned every dollar of that pension and he will receive it. To do otherwise for one mistake would seem to be cruel and unusual punishment.
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Sad day on the LES-He made our district better. Bus Service is second to none-The East River Park redo-more affordable housing than any other district in the city. It's easy to throw darts from California or wherever but if you lived in his district you would be sad as well.
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Assemblypersons:
Have I missed your comments regarding the conviction of this long time criminal who used his office of public trust to enrich himself?
No!? I guess you are busy preparing a response as I write.
Have I missed your comments regarding the conviction of this long time criminal who used his office of public trust to enrich himself?
No!? I guess you are busy preparing a response as I write.
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Good riddance. It has been a LONG time in coming.
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The saddest thing about this whole episode is that Silver probably is saying to himself, this was business as usual, and everybody did it, and I still don't think I did anything wrong. This man's moral compass is so far away from true north. What a pity.
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That was the defense his attorneys alleged!
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The New York Times coverage on this trial, and the broader story surrounding it has been, simply, excellent. This isn't easy work. It isn't cheap, either. But it's essential. And it's why so many people turn to your newspaper, err, umm, web site -- whatever -- for information. Don't stop.
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If Att'y Molo is right, what an interest campaign slogan or ad these facts would make.
Wonder if the trail of corruption will lead to Governor Cuomo? (incomplete post, sorry cat on keyboard)
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Too bad "Uncle Joe" (Bruno, former Majority Leader of the state Senate) got to walk over similar "theft of services" charges. Silver's lawyers are correct when they say this has been politics as usual in Albany for a long time. But I sincerely doubt this is the way the state's "forefathers" pictured or planned it. Just because it's been done for a long time, that doesn't mean it is or ever has been legal. Next up: Skelos.
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My sentiments exactly!
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Mr Silver, who made 5 million, was way too crude. There is never an immediate quit pro quo.
Rather, as Mr. Trump explained:
“As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Mr. Trump said. “As a businessman, I need that.”'
The Clintons Report Earnings of $139 Million in Seven Years - by sellling what ?
Rather, as Mr. Trump explained:
“As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do,” Mr. Trump said. “As a businessman, I need that.”'
The Clintons Report Earnings of $139 Million in Seven Years - by sellling what ?
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This story should remind the rabid partisans is that the problem is not the Democrats or Republicans, Left or Right, but representatives who wish to serve the people and those who wish to line their pockets, satisfy their thirst for power, and pray at their respective ideology altar.
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This decision (not to mention all the Illinois governors who went to jail) should give some pause to those who think that business is bad and we need more government to tame business.
More government just means more corruption. If you want to reduce corruption in government, then reduce the ability of government to control our lives. As I have said on these pages before, we should eliminate the corporate income tax, and tax all business income at the shareholder level. In addition to getting rid of the economic distortions perpetuated by the corporate income tax, it would also have the benefit of eliminating the corporate lobbying and political corruption that accompanies income tax legislation.
More government just means more corruption. If you want to reduce corruption in government, then reduce the ability of government to control our lives. As I have said on these pages before, we should eliminate the corporate income tax, and tax all business income at the shareholder level. In addition to getting rid of the economic distortions perpetuated by the corporate income tax, it would also have the benefit of eliminating the corporate lobbying and political corruption that accompanies income tax legislation.
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Jim Waddell, your recommendation to tax at the shareholder level would discourage investments and destroy the economy.
A perfect example of the Dems extensive culture of corruption. From the NYC/S outhouse to the Whitehouse, left-wingers feel entitled to other people's hard earned money since we private sector workers "didn't earn it" via our risk, our educational effort nor our decades of toil. Since we didn't "earn it" in their sick leftwing minds, they see no harm in stealing it from us and giving it to themselves and their cronies. I hope he gets a 9 pound hammer and a large rock heap.
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Yeah... the Republican Party and its conservative paymasters: Pure as the driven snow. Dream on, Mr. Dragon...
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There are far far more corruption cases (of all varieties) brought against Republican politicians and Republicans.
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I would like more explanation about this comment. It does not contain specifics.
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One down, a few dozen more to go.
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This is why New York State has some of the highest taxes in the country. Ie real estate tax, state income tax, sales tax, etc...corruption is expensive! Pay and pay and pay.
Finally one of the bad apples goes to jail, one down many many more to come.
Finally one of the bad apples goes to jail, one down many many more to come.
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Who is "Footing" the most honorables legal defence bills ?
Does he and his co-hort wife still recieve a Pension?...Compliments of NY Tax Payers.
Does the NEW Assembly Speaker (Carl Heastie) still think there's NOTHING more to be done in the legislature regarding corruption?
Will Cuomo be indicted before the years out?
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Who is "Footing" the most honorables legal defence bills ?
Does he and his co-hort wife still recieve a Pension?...Compliments of NY Tax Payers.
Does the NEW Assembly Speaker (Carl Heastie) still think there's NOTHING more to be done in the legislature regarding corruption?
Will Cuomo be indicted before the years out?
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For what? Please be specific. It's easy to throw ugly words around.
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Finally justice delivered!
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Scanning these comments I see woeful ignorance about the Federal Bureau of Prisons and the type of facility Silver likely will spend some time in. I visit a friend on a regular basis who is an inmate at one of the Federal Prison Camps, places many of the commenters describe as "Club Fed" or "Country Club". Nothing could be further from the truth. These facilities, like all prisons and jails, are mind numbing and soul destroying way stations in the Gulag that is the American penal system. Not to worry, those of you who wish to see felons suffer, Silver will be doing plenty of that, perhaps justifiably I suppose.
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Don't do the time if you can't do the crime --- Sammy Davis, Jr.
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Oops...looks like I wrote my post backwards.
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Preet! You are needed in New Jersey too!!
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In the end, the real difference between political corruption in the U.S. and Brazil seems to be that in the U.S. the ‘citizenry’ simply doesn’t accept corruption while in Brazil the people have come to ‘accept’ that corruption is a natural part of the political system.
So, once again, the world has proof that it is the ‘people’ of the U.S. who are remarkably different (i.e. decent, straight-forward and honest) and not necessarily their powerful politicians and business leaders.
So, once again, the world has proof that it is the ‘people’ of the U.S. who are remarkably different (i.e. decent, straight-forward and honest) and not necessarily their powerful politicians and business leaders.
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Thanks. We need some good news.
It's appalling how people like Silver behave. How would one ever in his position ever risk going to trial before being indicted and suspected of these deeds. Honest people would not sleep at night. Absolutely disgusting!
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Wow, only took twenty years for the government to realize something we all knew. I blame Cuomo-- both of them. Can the people weigh-in on sentencing? How about 100 years?
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When are there going to be charges of corruption brought up against our esteemed AG Eric Schneiderman?
Step 1). Take money from the big casino interests.
Step 2). Wipe out their online competition in NYS. Fan duel/Draftkings.
These Albany politicians should just put price lists online for their services.
Step 1). Take money from the big casino interests.
Step 2). Wipe out their online competition in NYS. Fan duel/Draftkings.
These Albany politicians should just put price lists online for their services.
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NOW can we please get rid of the tax cap? It's ruining whatever is left of our schools after Common Core is through with them.
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What would Sheldon( aka Shellie)Silver's mentor, the late Judge Hon.Francis Pecora have felt about this?
Hopefully, shame.
Mr. Silver was the judge's law secretary in the early 1970's.
Hopefully, shame.
Mr. Silver was the judge's law secretary in the early 1970's.
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He may be bummed out to hear one his protégés became a crook. But shame? That implies the judge did something wrong. Did he?
Excellent.
D or R, get the rest.
They are destroying America.
D or R, get the rest.
They are destroying America.
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This can be the start of the long-needed clean up of Albany--or merely another case where higher courts bend over backwards in favor of crooked politicians and Wall Streeters.
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No one should be surprised You give someone such power, and he does not thinks he will be caught. The new speaker does not smell too good as well.
That whole assembly and state senate needs to be investigated, posthaste.
That whole assembly and state senate needs to be investigated, posthaste.
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If Silver had any shame or honor, he would have taken himself off the public payroll when he was indicted!
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Silver's conviction leaves much--perhaps most--of the story of his vile, grasping and ever-reaching greed and lust for control--untold
The common parlance in "his" neighborhood, like those places all across America where patronage jobs are doled out, unions are put to work on City and State payrolls to run up voter turn-out in exchange for sweetened contracts, where millions in taxpayer dollars are casually and quietly injected into budgets passed in the dark of night and which go to "favored constituents" and result in payrolls packed with "supporters" and programs that favor the few.
Silver's conviction doesn't begin to tell the story of the deep, systemic corruption that this kind of endless loop of "vote for me" (or else) and you or your family member get thrown a small bone.
Everyone on the Lower East Side knows this.
The common parlance in "his" neighborhood, like those places all across America where patronage jobs are doled out, unions are put to work on City and State payrolls to run up voter turn-out in exchange for sweetened contracts, where millions in taxpayer dollars are casually and quietly injected into budgets passed in the dark of night and which go to "favored constituents" and result in payrolls packed with "supporters" and programs that favor the few.
Silver's conviction doesn't begin to tell the story of the deep, systemic corruption that this kind of endless loop of "vote for me" (or else) and you or your family member get thrown a small bone.
Everyone on the Lower East Side knows this.
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molly of San Diego: Unlike you who does not hail from the Lower East Side of Manhattan his constituents' comments here who are saddened by his conviction and appreciative of his service to them prove your comment wrong.
At long last. Why has it taken so long?
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My prediction for 5 years in the future: We'll see the same story substituting "Sheldon Silver" with "Hillary Clinton".
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Well said. Except sooner than five years.
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Thank God. Thank God.
Skelos and Skelis are next... and successive governor's may find themselves in hot water as the guilty are squeezed and finally talk.
Then, if the SDNY would reapproach the cases that have eluded them on Wall Street, in congress, in state governments and on K Street...
... using Use Immunity and the most skillful....
This nation might think better of itself.
Skelos and Skelis are next... and successive governor's may find themselves in hot water as the guilty are squeezed and finally talk.
Then, if the SDNY would reapproach the cases that have eluded them on Wall Street, in congress, in state governments and on K Street...
... using Use Immunity and the most skillful....
This nation might think better of itself.
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A greedy corrupt little man. He deserves to spend the rest of his days in jail.
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A few years ago, Silver faced a primary challenge by an open-government, anti-corruption advocate named Paul Newell. He was a great candidate, was endorsed by every major paper in the city, and lost by a landslide because *no one* thought Silver could ever be touched. (He became district leader instead.) This verdict proves Mr. Newell right. I hope this time voters get it right, too.
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On the less intellectual side of things ... Does anyone else have the "Get a Hold of Yourself" scene from the movie Airplane pop into their head after reading the stressed out juror's note?
This will not be a popular point of view today. But the relatively low pay ($79K/year) of NY state legislators makes it very likely that the envelope will be pushed, or at worst, rampant corruption will continue. Lawmakers should be paid a salary commensurate with their responsibility, e.g. $120K or so. That would enable them to focus more on the issues and attract much better candidates to the profession. You get what you pay for in all professions. Even public school teachers at the top of their scale make more than our legislators, and they get the summers off!
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In California, we give thanks each day, for the corruption convictions in the City of Bell - about 35,000 pop., where the mayor was paying himself $800,000, and his secretary $350,000, plus incredible pensions and all he could steal over the years. The case alerted people in numerous other small towns and cities, as to what was happening. A number of other "upstanding" citizens are now in jail.
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Its all selective justice at the DOJ. Shelly Silver is a lowly State official. A walking stereotype. Bob Menendez - persecuted because he had the gall to point out the emperor's Iran Deal was naked.
As Secretary of State, Mrs. Clinton allowed a contract to go forward with a Russian company for the acquisition of uranium mines in the US. In exchange, the Clinton Foundation got a hefty donation from the company. ($4 Million to Mr. Silver vs. the potential of fissionable material being placed in the wrong hands? Heck, $4 Million isn't even a rounding error for this Administration.)
Then there's that private server of Mrs. Clinton's, which clearly had some top secret information on it. For an offense probably less severe, General Patreus got drummed out of government service.
Mrs. Clinton, who otherwise wants to be treated like her male counterparts, takes the position, more or less, that she's just a girl and doesn't know about all that technical guy stuff.
The DOJ and Mr. Baraha are all so high and mighty and beyond reproach?
We'll see what Attorney General Lynch does concerning Mrs. Clinton's apparent and alleged misdeeds.
But we already know. So let's not fool ourselves into thinking that anything approaching justice is being meted out by this Administration.
As Secretary of State, Mrs. Clinton allowed a contract to go forward with a Russian company for the acquisition of uranium mines in the US. In exchange, the Clinton Foundation got a hefty donation from the company. ($4 Million to Mr. Silver vs. the potential of fissionable material being placed in the wrong hands? Heck, $4 Million isn't even a rounding error for this Administration.)
Then there's that private server of Mrs. Clinton's, which clearly had some top secret information on it. For an offense probably less severe, General Patreus got drummed out of government service.
Mrs. Clinton, who otherwise wants to be treated like her male counterparts, takes the position, more or less, that she's just a girl and doesn't know about all that technical guy stuff.
The DOJ and Mr. Baraha are all so high and mighty and beyond reproach?
We'll see what Attorney General Lynch does concerning Mrs. Clinton's apparent and alleged misdeeds.
But we already know. So let's not fool ourselves into thinking that anything approaching justice is being meted out by this Administration.
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Rubashkin, Weberman, and now Silver. Is St. LAWRENCE next?
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I'm flabbergasted that Silver's lawyers argued that the prosecutors were trying to criminalize routine, legal activity. As I read about the trial while it was ongoing, I kept thinking to myself that if Silver did anything else for a living, he would have gone to prison years ago. Maybe, just maybe, our state lawmakers will start to think that they have to follow the same rules and laws as everybody else.
There's only one thing that Preet Bharara said that I don't agree with: "Today, Sheldon Silver got justice..." A guilty verdict is not justice. He'll get justice when he goes to prison.
Next up, Dean Skelos, who's just as deserving of prison. Maybe they can share a cell.
There's only one thing that Preet Bharara said that I don't agree with: "Today, Sheldon Silver got justice..." A guilty verdict is not justice. He'll get justice when he goes to prison.
Next up, Dean Skelos, who's just as deserving of prison. Maybe they can share a cell.
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The corrupt and the crook he was, Sheldon Silver should be incarcerated for a long long time. Kudos to Preet Bahrara for prosecuting the " Untouchable " Politicians and the Wall Street crooks. Everybody ,including the NY ex speaker should be equal before the law. Thanks to the Jury also for convicting the crook.
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This prosecution worries me because we can read about people who are so rich they don't have to worry about having enough money to gain political office and they will be able to act in the interests of the one percent only.
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And after all the time he was in office they are finding this out, you would think someone else had to know , are they checking into those around him?
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When are we going to see a case against the two corrupt developers? Or were they immunized to testify?
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How is Glenwood involved in two similar scandals this week? Is this just coincidence?
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The sense of entitlement became more than that...it became the pseudo-law! Which is why Mr. Silver could not correctly handle sexual-harassment allegations those under his watch were protected by his laws...look now...a cabbie jury is afraid of conflict of interest because his boss is a friend of Mr. Silver...even while on trial he is empowered by his friends and their influence...
Why are the federal courts being used to police the New York State politicians? Are there honest men and women among them that can stand for integrity and truth? Are there men and women in this State willing to serve and not be lured by power, money and end-up destroying their own lives? In the final analysis the promises made to the voters was all for naught...
Why are the federal courts being used to police the New York State politicians? Are there honest men and women among them that can stand for integrity and truth? Are there men and women in this State willing to serve and not be lured by power, money and end-up destroying their own lives? In the final analysis the promises made to the voters was all for naught...
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Now is the time for the legislature finish the job of ethics reform that Cuomo abandoned: enact term limits and ban outside employment. In exchange for that good deed, the legislators can give themselves a raise. Otherwise, the US Attorney will continue to lock them up one-by-one.
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One down (Silver) and one to go (Skelos).
Hopefully, the Moreland Commission shutdown will be investigated and more indictments and convictions will follow.
Hopefully, the Moreland Commission shutdown will be investigated and more indictments and convictions will follow.
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Thank you to Bharara for prosecuting these criminals. One has to admit that there is a high level of sophistication in fraud. The TAUB / Witz and Luxenborg scam was particularly sick but took a highly skilled staff at the DA's office to put all the pieces together.
I am hopeful that we will see more investigations into attorney client acquisition. The system has become so corrupt. It is clear that attorney's cannot police themselves.
I am hopeful that we will see more investigations into attorney client acquisition. The system has become so corrupt. It is clear that attorney's cannot police themselves.
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There used to be an automobile radio show where people would call in with car related questions. A common question was that when a car has an issue dealers often respond with "they all do it". The appropriate reply is that "they all should be fixed - lets start with this one".
The fact that all (perhaps not all) New York legislators take bribes simply means that they all should be prosecuted. Mr. Silver is a start.
I am old enough to recall a time long ago where elected office did not automatically come with riches.
The fact that all (perhaps not all) New York legislators take bribes simply means that they all should be prosecuted. Mr. Silver is a start.
I am old enough to recall a time long ago where elected office did not automatically come with riches.
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I believe justice was served here. Hopefully the voters of New York, and indeed all voters from throughout the country will take note: it matters who you vote for. The pervasive corruption at the highest levels of New York State government is frightening indeed, and undoubtedly cost of the state much.
There is another important lesson. The major scheme Mr. Silver was convicted of involved tort litigation relating to asbestos. This case was illustrative of the extraordinary corruption and utter disrespect for the rule of law that pervades much of the tort litigation that takes place in the United States. Asbestos litigation is one example, perhaps the best example, of this issue, but it is far from the only one.
We do need a system of civil tort law; it provides an important check on corporate and sometimes individual malfeasance. But the system we have is so deeply flawed that it probably does more harm than good. Reform is desperately required.
There is another important lesson. The major scheme Mr. Silver was convicted of involved tort litigation relating to asbestos. This case was illustrative of the extraordinary corruption and utter disrespect for the rule of law that pervades much of the tort litigation that takes place in the United States. Asbestos litigation is one example, perhaps the best example, of this issue, but it is far from the only one.
We do need a system of civil tort law; it provides an important check on corporate and sometimes individual malfeasance. But the system we have is so deeply flawed that it probably does more harm than good. Reform is desperately required.
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there needs to prison reform as well. Trust me, I was there. There are educational classes called ACE but they are really worthless. There is no such thing as rehabilitation. It is pure punishment. There is also corruption in jail. In a place where there were four lines of fences, inmates had cell phones. How is that possible? They came by mother goose or the ground hogs. No, it is called greed and corruption. You don't see the whole picture. I was inside the fence. I saw the other side and it is very ugly and nasty. People get raped, beaten with a lock in a sock, shower stalls falling apart, mice, waterbugs roaches running rampant in MCC and MDC. This is America. Shame, Shame, Shame. There has to be a more humane way to treat human beings. America spends billions on a system to line the pockets of phone companies and commissary companies. Where is there justice for that? One politician goes to jail and you have 300 people commenting but I am confident that not one person sat in jail and saw the brutality of it. We need change how we treat our fellow human beings. Remember, we are only human. We all make mistakes. We should not pay back a white collar crime with our dear lives because sometimes, a jail sentence becomes a death sentence. Medical care is also meager. I was enduring a tooth ache/gum pain for months. The dental assistant told me, "listen , your leaving soon, go take care of it when you are outside. That was no excuse. I don't wish this nightmare on anyone.
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Thank you, Jury Members. You have given hope to prosecutors everywhere that, if the facts are presented, a Jury will stand up and do the right thing.
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To Paul of Long Beach CA: How do you know if you didn't attend the trial and hear the evidence presented? Press reporting is not the same as admissible evidence at trial.
Finally. A cloud for this Silver lining his pockets.
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Not one but two jurors tried to be excused during deliberations. The US Attorney should open an investigation to see if Shelly attempted to tamper with the jury.
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Everybody has known for years about how the government of New York State goes about its business. Jailing someone who has participated in New York's corruption for decades is hardly the answer; by giving the appearance that current anti-corruption structures and institutions are adequate to fix the problem, Silver's conviction is certainly a fig leaf and probably no more than that.
The rules, procedures, and customs that allowed the governor and the leaders of the two legislative houses to run the government by themselves, remain in place. Someone will replace Sheldon Silver, but will the new speaker have to operate, or be able to operate, in a different manner?
What has now been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are details of a big picture that everybody knew about for decades. The reality, however, was officially ignored, treated as nonexistent or invisible because no one was able or willing to give it legal existence. Changing this reality will take other measures than convictions; the first such measure is for all the parties in the charade to name their ongoing charade as such.
The rules, procedures, and customs that allowed the governor and the leaders of the two legislative houses to run the government by themselves, remain in place. Someone will replace Sheldon Silver, but will the new speaker have to operate, or be able to operate, in a different manner?
What has now been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law are details of a big picture that everybody knew about for decades. The reality, however, was officially ignored, treated as nonexistent or invisible because no one was able or willing to give it legal existence. Changing this reality will take other measures than convictions; the first such measure is for all the parties in the charade to name their ongoing charade as such.
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"Mr. Silver fidgeted in his chair, clenched his jaw, shook his head, sighed and cast furtive glances toward Preet Bharara."
I wish I was in the courtroom to see that.
I wish I was in the courtroom to see that.
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So while we're on a roll indicting & prosecuting criminal government officials, maybe we can go after the really big stuff, like indicting & prosecuting Carl Rove & Dick Cheney et. al. for outing Valerie Plame, & Paul Wolfowitz for coking up the Iraq War, W for commanding a vast war crime that can never be redeemed, etc.
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Indicting Rove and Cheney now for outing Plame seems pretty unlikely, especially since Richard Armitage admitted years ago that he did it.
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@GMooG:
"The truth is the engine of our judicial system, and if you compromise the truth, the whole process is lost".
--Patrick Fitzgerald
There is no statute of limitations on Treason.
"The truth is the engine of our judicial system, and if you compromise the truth, the whole process is lost".
--Patrick Fitzgerald
There is no statute of limitations on Treason.
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New York's Assembly is famous as the most dysfunctional in the country. Will Silver's departure change anything about that? Or are the issues more substantive?
Serious question for a number of people like me, who are reluctant to invest in New York as long as it remains such a free zone for kickbacks, payoffs, favoritism, and all kinds of misgovernance. Much of this isn't even illegal, but has been baked into the system over the years, such a all of the statutory fees we must pay to lawyers for useless and/or redundant services such as title insurance.
Serious question for a number of people like me, who are reluctant to invest in New York as long as it remains such a free zone for kickbacks, payoffs, favoritism, and all kinds of misgovernance. Much of this isn't even illegal, but has been baked into the system over the years, such a all of the statutory fees we must pay to lawyers for useless and/or redundant services such as title insurance.
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Robert T.:
Is someone begging you to "invest in New York," whatever that means? Is there someone who cares whether or not you "invest in New York"?
Is someone begging you to "invest in New York," whatever that means? Is there someone who cares whether or not you "invest in New York"?
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Please explain why title insurance is "useless and/or redundant."
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Robert T --
Much of your comment is senseless. Attacking title insurance? Huh?
Much of your comment is senseless. Attacking title insurance? Huh?
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Shelly is just the tip of the iceberg…which a lot of commenters seem hip to.
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Somewhere, Theodore Roosevelt is smiling.
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Silver will appeal this and his judge/crony friends will overturn the verdict. Silver will never spend one second in jail because he is very well connected. He will be the latest Teflon politician.
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Come to DC, Mr. Barara and clean the corrupt cauldron for the whole country.
Hillary next?
Hillary next?
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Hillary is the epitome of political influence purchased by big dollars.
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Yes! She will help.
“Today, Sheldon Silver got justice, and at long last, so did the people of New York.” Wow - did any ever think this would happen to Silver? New York governors came and went - but Silver always remained and as a power to be reckoned. His hubris was believing that as long as he served his district well - and he did - he was entitled to some of the spoils of office. His long legislative career and its ever present way-warding temptations serves as a perfect example of the need for term limits.
A terrific win for US attorney Bharara and especially for the citizens of the Empire State.
A terrific win for US attorney Bharara and especially for the citizens of the Empire State.
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What's amazing is the Silver defense, what he did, collecting bribes, was not illegal. So if all the facts were the same but the money went to a super PAC for Silver, that would have been legal?
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Lester, the law has loopholes and exceptions for campaign contributions. Does anyone not understand why? Tighter laws and regulations must be demanded by a larger public voice than is presently heard.
This is exactly why the United States has a bright future. The ability and actions to prosecute corruption in government, no matter high up the chain it goes. Look at any country that has rampant corruption and you will find that their economy is perpetually in shambles. Its the common denominator.
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It is a moment to rejoice in the hard work done by Mr. Bharara and his colleagues - the people of NY. True, Silver will have his crony,
Joel Cohen, Esq., of Strook Strook, appeal, (Joel Cohen is Mr. Silver's long time personal lawyer, present at the trial) and appointed by Silver to the Most Powerful Committee, NY State Commission on Judicial Conduct; Richard Emery, appointed by Sen. Sampson (convicted) (*) etc. From the Commissions' Own Website:
"The current members of the Commission and their terms of office are listed below. Asterisk (*) indicates that the appointing authority no longer holds that office." GOLLY GEE, what an UNDERSTATEMENT. (*) means CONVICTED, or under indictment... (Silver *, Skelos *, Sampson*) and they (*) were appointing those who would review NY State Judicial Conduct....Stinks to High Albany Heavens.
"Commission Member
Appointing Authority
First Appointed
Expiration of Term
2008
3/31/2016
Joel Cohen
Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver*
2010
3/31/2018
Jodie Corngold
Governor Andrew M. Cuomo
2013
3/31/2019
Richard D. Emery
Senate Minority Leader John L. Sampson*
2004
3/31/2016
Paul B. Harding
Richard A. Stoloff
Senate President Pro Tem Dean Skelos*
2011
3/31/2019"
We, the people of this state, deserve honest lawyers, judges, politicians, bankers. This is a start. Some of us ATTENDED the trial. We, who have seen the system eat the public alive, are celebrating the moment; that's all we have.
Joel Cohen, Esq., of Strook Strook, appeal, (Joel Cohen is Mr. Silver's long time personal lawyer, present at the trial) and appointed by Silver to the Most Powerful Committee, NY State Commission on Judicial Conduct; Richard Emery, appointed by Sen. Sampson (convicted) (*) etc. From the Commissions' Own Website:
"The current members of the Commission and their terms of office are listed below. Asterisk (*) indicates that the appointing authority no longer holds that office." GOLLY GEE, what an UNDERSTATEMENT. (*) means CONVICTED, or under indictment... (Silver *, Skelos *, Sampson*) and they (*) were appointing those who would review NY State Judicial Conduct....Stinks to High Albany Heavens.
"Commission Member
Appointing Authority
First Appointed
Expiration of Term
2008
3/31/2016
Joel Cohen
Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver*
2010
3/31/2018
Jodie Corngold
Governor Andrew M. Cuomo
2013
3/31/2019
Richard D. Emery
Senate Minority Leader John L. Sampson*
2004
3/31/2016
Paul B. Harding
Richard A. Stoloff
Senate President Pro Tem Dean Skelos*
2011
3/31/2019"
We, the people of this state, deserve honest lawyers, judges, politicians, bankers. This is a start. Some of us ATTENDED the trial. We, who have seen the system eat the public alive, are celebrating the moment; that's all we have.
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Honest lawyers, judges, politicians, bankers?? All oxymorons!
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Galimir, notice how those appointing authorities you view as corrupt were able to appont people of integrity to the Commission. Surely you did not mean to impugn the integrity of the people appointed who have done nothing wrong and have served admirably.
It's sad to see an old man go to jail (if, indeed, he does go to jail), but if he did the crime then he should do the time.
I hope that Preet Bharara keeps up the good work and collars all of the crooks. Of course, that could mean that the state legislature will have a lot empty seats! I particularly hope that Mr. Bharara has the whatever it takes to collar Gov. Cuomo. If ever there was a shady, manipulative bully ....
I hope that Preet Bharara keeps up the good work and collars all of the crooks. Of course, that could mean that the state legislature will have a lot empty seats! I particularly hope that Mr. Bharara has the whatever it takes to collar Gov. Cuomo. If ever there was a shady, manipulative bully ....
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It's sad to see a crook stay out of jail long enough to grow old.
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This may not be something people want to hear right now -- a clear good vs. evil narrative is infinitely more satisfying -- but any honest advocate for public higher education, the needs of the poor and dispossessed or quality health care who worked in the state capital during the three terms of the Pataki administration will tell you that, but for Speaker Silver, Pataki would have stripped those areas clean.
For 12 years of Pataki's stunningly heartless Governorship, Silver stood strong against the forces trying to elevate selfishness to to high art.
That's right, people are complicated. And no honest look at Speaker Silver's career can ignore his gloriously mule-like stubborn stands against those who didn't know a pressing human need even when it bit them in the backside.
For 12 years of Pataki's stunningly heartless Governorship, Silver stood strong against the forces trying to elevate selfishness to to high art.
That's right, people are complicated. And no honest look at Speaker Silver's career can ignore his gloriously mule-like stubborn stands against those who didn't know a pressing human need even when it bit them in the backside.
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Pataki was 12 years ago. By your logic he should have stopped stealing after Spitzer was elected.
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Wonder how many other former New York Assembly leaders got away with this? For that matter, how many former Senate leaders? I'm guessing the percentage is close to 95%.
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Please move to Illinois Mr. Preet Bharara. Your next target is waiting for you.
The Illinois Speaker of the House Michael Madigan has a lot in common with Mr. Silver. He may in fact make Sheldon look small time. He even has his own law firm (like Mr. Silver) to assist with the graft.
The Illinois Speaker of the House Michael Madigan has a lot in common with Mr. Silver. He may in fact make Sheldon look small time. He even has his own law firm (like Mr. Silver) to assist with the graft.
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New Mexico is similarly riddled by cronyism, nepotism and white collar crime throughout government at all levels, in both parties. The "patrón" (godfather) system, going back centuries, is alive and well here. With rare exceptions it is only federal prosecutors who can successfully bring indictments and sometimes get convictions using juries whose members are inured to all the corruption and often return acquittals in what appear to be open-and-shut cases.
After all, in NM, a "good kid" is one who has not been convicted of a felony, yet.
After all, in NM, a "good kid" is one who has not been convicted of a felony, yet.
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We all are painfully aware that there is a long list of cases of corruption in Albany. But we have failed to understand why this is.
Well, here is the simple answer. Legislators earn far too little money (about $70k) and the job is deemed to be part time which justifies why we allow them to have full time outside jobs. This environment is conducive to cheating.
Let's require that our Albany lawmakers be full time with no outside employment and pay them a salary commensurate with the responsibilities of overseeing a state with a $140 billion budget.
Well, here is the simple answer. Legislators earn far too little money (about $70k) and the job is deemed to be part time which justifies why we allow them to have full time outside jobs. This environment is conducive to cheating.
Let's require that our Albany lawmakers be full time with no outside employment and pay them a salary commensurate with the responsibilities of overseeing a state with a $140 billion budget.
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Actually, they should get paid less and spend less time in Albany. Compare the length of the NY session to the sessions of most states. The lest time in Albany, the less mischief can be made.
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I recently saw a documentary called "Rediscovering the Light" about the restoration of the capitol building in Albany. The work was very impressive, but one thing seemed to be lacking---a large chrome handle on the left tower.
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Come on, Preet! Waiting for the big shoe to drop on Andrew.
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He needs some REAL incarceration time—no "house arrest" slap—and of course a heavy fine in the $millions.
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If only Heastie with his misuse of campaign contributions and credit card bills was next. The Times did an excellent job on its reporting but got nowhere. If only they had opened up a "comments" section and had left it on their fRont page.
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I can just see the head scratching in the hallowed chambers of the New York State Assembly; and the State Senate, as well. So thoroughly, and for so long, has influence peddling been entrenched in New York State Government; that today's most pressing question among legislators, staffers, lobbyists, and various and sundry hangers on in Albany might have been:
How could this be possible, how could it have happened?
How could this be possible, how could it have happened?
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One normally expects periodic pay raises in any position of competence. The problem here is what someone feels entitled to after 40 years in the legislature. Forty years! That's the problem.
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And furthermore, amazing that after 40 years he seems to feel immune to this judgement, like his position of power (no longer held) will rescue him from this problem as well.... 40 years is indeed the problem.
They haven't had a raise since 1998. On the other hand, they receive $172 per day (diem) when they are in Albany. It is considered a part time job, and they are in session for 6 months of the year. In addition to per diem they can be appointed to run committees and that can drive up their wages by tens of thousands of dollars. At a $79,500 base salary they are the highest paid legislators in the country. But if you live downstate, that $79,500 doesn't go very far. I think they should make it a full time job, adjust the pay and get rid of the gimmick pay and shut down loopholes that allow corporate donations and lobbying $. If you want professionals, you have to pay them accordingly. And throw in term limits. Do your public service then step down and let the next person contribute. It should not be a lifetime job.
He is 71 years old. Fine him big time, and forget him. Jail costs money. He is a Politico like the rest of them that did not get caught. Bush, Cheney, Rummy, the neo-con Justice department lawyers who legalized torture are the ones who belong in jail.
Silver is a small time felon. The others are war criminals.
Silver is a small time felon. The others are war criminals.
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Since Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq War should she be prosecuted as a war criminal too?
If not, why not?
If not, why not?
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Jail time will send a message to this lifetime crook that there is no place that he or others can hide when they take advantage of the public's trust. Send him to prison for the rest of his natural life. It is well deserved.
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Rummy is 83. Cheney 74. Silver is 71 and W is 69.
So what
So what
Here's hoping that justice will be served a second time, and Skelos also found guilty! (Maybe they can share a cell?)
When will the "third man in the room" (i.e. Cuomo) have to account for HIS shenanigans?
How about using this as the basis for demanding a MAJOR "clean up Albany" campaign, Times?
When will the "third man in the room" (i.e. Cuomo) have to account for HIS shenanigans?
How about using this as the basis for demanding a MAJOR "clean up Albany" campaign, Times?
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Many New Yorkers who have viewed Sheldon Silver as a constant advocate for the ordinary citizen against powerful interests are sophisticated enough to be disappointed that he was as vulnerable to the temptations that come with power as many others--both indicted and ignored. Indictments of politicians often appear, however, to be a form of retribution for not going along rather than for breaking the law. There are too many examples to mention here, but let us cite just two. Eliot Spitzer, whose crime was to use the services of prostitutes, was reported in the initial stages of the scandal that ensued as if he was in fact running a prostitution ring. When the story broke of New Jersey senator Robert Torricelli soliciting favors from a Korean businessman, NBC news suspended all other news during its evening broadcast--including commercials--to allow in-depth coverage, an event paralleled only by the Kennedy assassination and the O.J. Simpson trek along the LA thruway in his Ford Bronco.
Former emperor Mike Bloomberg's shadow seems to loom large over this case. His treatment of New York city's ordinary drivers when (with Silver's assistance) they thwarted his congestion pricing plan has been painful, caused greater congestion, and continues into the current administration led by a man who seems to know who not to antagonize.
Former emperor Mike Bloomberg's shadow seems to loom large over this case. His treatment of New York city's ordinary drivers when (with Silver's assistance) they thwarted his congestion pricing plan has been painful, caused greater congestion, and continues into the current administration led by a man who seems to know who not to antagonize.
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A NY Constitutional Amendment providing for term limits for state legislators should be proposed to the People and voted upon.
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Sheldon Silver's use of office "wasn't by the people or for the people." Very true, and rightful conviction, but nationwide corruption is much larger. Just yesterday, the NYT had a thorough examination of *legal*, but highly dubious, dealings in Illinois. Bob McDonnell and Rod Blogojevich were also charged, but corruption is business-as-usual across the country. It's not enough to hope that bringing individual "quid pro quo" cases to light will scare politicians to their senses. We need thorough, codified, reforms nationally, when legality is this thin of a line.
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So wile we're on a roll indicting & prosecuting corrupt government officials, maybe we can go after the really big stuff, like indicting & prosecuting Carl Rove & Dick Cheney et. al. for outing Valerie Plame..
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....now if we could only have given THE ENTIRE NEW YORK STATE ASSEMBLY (and governor's mansion) a great big flush together with the former Speaker, I might then have found some reason for optimism. Alas, this is merely like "passing a stone" - they just come back again in another guise (in this case, it's called Carl Heastie).
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Prosecuting politicians is kind of like gardening. You can make it look showy for awhile, but the weeds will always keep cropping up. This might be one weed pulled, and *perhaps* NY looks grand for a day. But there are still plenty of weeds in the soils of Albany (and every other part of our govt. for that matter).
Thanks to Mr. Bharaha. I wish this country had more gardeners.
Thanks to Mr. Bharaha. I wish this country had more gardeners.
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I can assure you that this case and verdict do not *perhaps* make NY (state government) look grand. Not even borderline good.
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The citizens of NY State are complicit in the bad behavior of our state legislators. Why? Because they don't bother to vote in these elections, and they almost never oust an incumbent.
Most people don't even know who their assemblyperson or senator is or what s/he stands for.
Also, as long as these are part-time jobs and allow for outside income, the sorts of corruption that Silver, Bruno, et al trade in, will always be there.
Most people don't even know who their assemblyperson or senator is or what s/he stands for.
Also, as long as these are part-time jobs and allow for outside income, the sorts of corruption that Silver, Bruno, et al trade in, will always be there.
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It is wrong to blame the voters. The system is designed to be impenetrable to all but insiders. Campaign financing, nominating petitions, three men in a room--it's all set up to discourage reform. Don't blame voters who have figured this out and are disenchanted as a result.
I don't blame the voters. The politicians choose the voters before the voters choose the politicians. The pols do this by drawing the district lines. For a generation, the Assembly has been Democratic and the Senate Republican. It's all part of the Deal, agreed on in back rooms, never discussed publicly. I live in Silver's district, I vote in every election, and I've never voted for him. But what other choices do I have? Some no-name Republican who has zero chance to win? This district is overwhelmingly Democratic. Others are overwhelmingly Republican. No wonder that, at least as of a few years ago, the incumbency rate in the NYS State Legislature was higher than in the Politburo in the Soviet Union.
Mark of NY: The election system is not closed as you represent. You just haven't bothered to learn the simple rules for getting on the ballot. The people are at fault for not competing with the candidates for office by running themselves if necessary. Candidates who make public office their career choice are usually interested in promoting themselves rather than the public good. Do gooders should get their feet wet and run for office, not criticize from the bleacher stands.
Why aren't there term limits??! Nobody should be allowed to spend that many years in government - not at the state level, and not at the national level. After your *brief* stint as a representative of the people, you should go back to being a regular tax payer.
Career politicians are poisonous to the integrity of democracy - they wield too much power, they owe too many people favors, and they become too corrupt.
Career politicians are poisonous to the integrity of democracy - they wield too much power, they owe too many people favors, and they become too corrupt.
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Term limits means that the voters lose any possibility of influencing elected officials. If elected officials can only serve 2 terms then as soon as they are elected to their second term they will have one focus -- looking for their next job. Without term limits these officials cannot anger the voters to the point where they cannot be reelected.
Great comment !
Your point is on the mark. An entrenched POL does not serve the people well, just themselves. Power corrupts POLs over time and $$ is the typical reward but of course there are countless other type rewards too. Term limits of all our State elected officeholders is a fair and desirable to serve the people.
As the saying goes..."absolute power corrupts absolutely..". The US Attorney's office rightfully proved that adage, in this case against Mr. Silver.
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Who can be surprised by this verdict? All of the evidence over his 40 plus years in "power" made it obvious that he was GUILTY. See ya.
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"On Monday, a second juror asked to be removed from the case, citing a conflict of interest related to his job. The juror, Kenneth Graham, a taxi driver, told the judge he had learned during the Thanksgiving recess that the owner of the medallion cab he drove was a good friend of Mr. Silver’s, and belonged to the same synagogue as the assemblyman."
The Times should do a follow-up on what happens to Kenneth Graham.
The Times should do a follow-up on what happens to Kenneth Graham.
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Oh, I think we all know what will happen to Mr. Graham. let's just hope that unemployment is the worst that occurs.
Most New Yorkers will be asking why it took so long.
The brutal truth is the reason Sheldon Silver was protected for decades was that he wasn't the only person making money in this corrupt political/legal system.
Many other people were making money as well. Hopefully the sentence will be a long one. But with excellent lawyers and a white collar corruption bias, I don't think that will happen.
The brutal truth is the reason Sheldon Silver was protected for decades was that he wasn't the only person making money in this corrupt political/legal system.
Many other people were making money as well. Hopefully the sentence will be a long one. But with excellent lawyers and a white collar corruption bias, I don't think that will happen.
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Sheldon Silver is a crook and I think that has been known for many years. Weren't people curious how he made all of that money from a law firm specializing in high end personal injury and asbestos cases?
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Thank you Preet Bharara. This is extraordinary news for all the honest, tax-paying citizens of New York who were ripped-off by Silver and his ilk for decades! Dean Skelos up next..
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We've got a long way to go to clean up NYState government, but this was a good start!!
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Good. I'm glad. This is a surprise outcome. I thought a mistrial would be declared after the problems with the first, unnamed juror. I didn't even know about the problems with the second juror. I was convinced the first juror had been threatened by somebody trying to throw the outcome, or had accepted a quid pro quo themselves, but, no. Good on ya, New York.
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What an incredible turn of events in New York politics over the past few days. First Charlie Rangel announces his retirement and now Sheldon Silver is actually convicted on corruption charges.
It remains to be seen if this is indeed a new beginning for NY politics or if the adage "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" hold true.
It remains to be seen if this is indeed a new beginning for NY politics or if the adage "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" hold true.
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[[ Charlie Rangel announces his retirement ]]
Wow! Missed that…will have to look it up. His generation of black officials had their day and did good things in the past, but like any politician you let stay in office too long they developed a sense of entitlement.
I remember when Dinkins flipped a guy off as Dinkins was headed to Rangel's birthday party.
Arrogant.
Wow! Missed that…will have to look it up. His generation of black officials had their day and did good things in the past, but like any politician you let stay in office too long they developed a sense of entitlement.
I remember when Dinkins flipped a guy off as Dinkins was headed to Rangel's birthday party.
Arrogant.
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Politicians take money every day in exchange for favors and services. In the case of Sheldon Silver, we call it "bribery." But elsewhere in electoral politics, we call it "campaign contributions." He difference is merely semantic.
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The millions Silver made go into his personal bank account, without any restriction or regulation. There is a difference.
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Anthony you are mistaken. It isn't merely semantics. Unless you're one of his supporters of which he has many. Like sheep they are.
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Not exactly. Silver crossed the line.
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It shouldn't require a federal prosecution to remedy corruption by a high-ranking state official. The people of New York should be asking: Where was the NY County District Attorney? Where was the New York State Attorney General?
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They were out campaigning.
If it weren't for the Feds (in this case Bharara), there would be no justice and no convictions in the State of New York.
New York (and New Yorkers) have adjusted to the yoke of the Democrat Party and will accept ANY behavior as long as its from a loved Democrat.
Good riddance, Mr. Silver. Who's next, Mr. Bharara?
New York (and New Yorkers) have adjusted to the yoke of the Democrat Party and will accept ANY behavior as long as its from a loved Democrat.
Good riddance, Mr. Silver. Who's next, Mr. Bharara?
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Did you really read this NYT article? Apparently not. Here's your answer:
"His conviction comes as Mr. Bharara’s office is trying his former counterpart, State Senator Dean G. Skelos, a Republican from Long Island who stepped down as majority leader"
"His conviction comes as Mr. Bharara’s office is trying his former counterpart, State Senator Dean G. Skelos, a Republican from Long Island who stepped down as majority leader"
Fair enough, but it should be pointed out that the prosecution was conducted by a U.S. Attorney appointed by a Democratic President and confirmed by a Democratic Senate. I will agree, however, that one party rule in New York City is a problem. Unfortunately, the opposition party is either content to play along to get along, or is simply incapable of supporting policies that are not destructive to the life blood of the City or that are not calculated to insult the various constituent parts of a diverse population.
Before Silver, there was Bruno - a Republican and the next one will be Skelos - also a Republican. Greed and corruption does not belong solely to one political party or the other.
Preet should take the advice of Silver's defense lawyer that "everyone does it" and indict the rest of the state legislature in Albany. Then, Preet might be able to call Silver and his defense attorney to the stand on these statements.
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How long did this go on for and what didn't come out in the wash?
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We haven't heard a word about whether Silver was remanded, like most convicted defendants facing a big sentence would be, after a guilty verdict, or whether he was still treated with privilege and permitted to remain at liberty on bail pending sentence--which likely won't occur for months.
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Nor did the NYT bother to tell us what penalties could be given to Mr. Silver.
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We haven't heard a word about whether Silver was remanded, like most convicted defendants facing a big sentence would be.]]
There's a rather large photo accompanying the article which shows Silver walking out of the courthouse. He was not detained during the trial and probably is not deemed a flight risk, although they may confiscate his passport. He will likely remain free until his sentencing date which could be months away. Even after he is sentenced he probably will have more time outside prison until his surrender date, which could be another couple of months after sentencing.
We haven't heard a word about whether Silver was remanded, like most convicted defendants facing a big sentence would be.]]
There's a rather large photo accompanying the article which shows Silver walking out of the courthouse. He was not detained during the trial and probably is not deemed a flight risk, although they may confiscate his passport. He will likely remain free until his sentencing date which could be months away. Even after he is sentenced he probably will have more time outside prison until his surrender date, which could be another couple of months after sentencing.
[[jmj616 Brooklyn 13 hours ago
Nor did the NYT bother to tell us what penalties could be given to Mr. Silver.]]
Max penalty is 130 years. Actual sentence likely to be in the 20 year range.
Nor did the NYT bother to tell us what penalties could be given to Mr. Silver.]]
Max penalty is 130 years. Actual sentence likely to be in the 20 year range.
Most likely he will get one year of house arrest plus $5 million penalty. During that time he will help Preet Bharara catching others and write some books to be published in about 2 years. Basically it will all blow over - too many hidden issues.
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I like this one!!! He will then be the state's star witness in many cases to come, or be in jail for the rest of his days!!! I guess he will choose A, because otherwise what is he going to do with all the money he lined his pockets with at the expense of NY?
Sheldon Silver personifies the corruption in state government. His sentencing should be commensurate. 4 years per conviction is the accepted standard so Mr Silver should be spending the rest of his life in prison. Prison would be a good example to the rest of the State legislator and to the hundreds of local governments where such behavior is standard operating procedure.
It's long overdue that elected officials and corporate executives start serving time for their crimes. It would go a long way to counter the cynicism among ordinary citizens that the law exists for the convenience of the powerfully connected among us.
It's long overdue that elected officials and corporate executives start serving time for their crimes. It would go a long way to counter the cynicism among ordinary citizens that the law exists for the convenience of the powerfully connected among us.
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I hope the sentencing is just and will include prison.
However, locking him up for more than 8 years, with parole after 4, seems inhumane and a waste of tax payer money, considering his age and the cost of taking care of people with frail age in prison.
I would be more punished by huge fines.
I suppose the lawyers will try to stretch this out until he is too old to even enter prison.
However, locking him up for more than 8 years, with parole after 4, seems inhumane and a waste of tax payer money, considering his age and the cost of taking care of people with frail age in prison.
I would be more punished by huge fines.
I suppose the lawyers will try to stretch this out until he is too old to even enter prison.
Hopefully this will embolden the Bharara's office to bring charges against more corrupt NY politicians as this is undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg.
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The privileged, educated, wealthy, and powerful deserve more severe punishment for a crime than the poor.
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Corruption destroys democracy and the people's faith that their government is on their side. It should be stamped out whenever it is discovered.
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It may be unfortunate but with what went on with the jury it is not likely this verdict will stand. Something terrible happened in that jury room and a complete investigation is required.
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Based on existing supreme court precedent (such as Warger v Shauers, 2014), it is unlikely that anyone will look into what happened in the jury deliberation room.
You mean attempted tampering! That should even further damn the defendant.
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As a citizen, an attorney, a taxpayer, and currently a presidential candidate (who has been running my peace and abolitionist campaign without money, but will start raising some soon), I was sickened to read of Assemblyman Sheldon Silver's being on the take. To trade your obligation to everyone to an obligation to those who pay you the most turns democracy on its head, turning it into a cleptocracy.
Sadly, he is just one of many recently convicted of corruption, which really must stop already. But the true corruption goes to the heart of the lobbying system that allows companies to donate to candidates' campaigns! There are even legislators, perhaps a majority, who work part time for the state, then part time as attorneys collecting fees from constituents to get what they want or need! Of course, the Citizens United case also made unlimited campaign spending allowed, which we also must end. Then there is the problem of the Judges, who are either appointed by the elected officials they are supposed to reign in, or are elected, often running on "anti-crime" platforms designed to steal our human rights to freedom, the very freedom the judges are supposed to protect others from stealing from us! Besides overturning the case, we still need massive campaign finance reform, with lots of free tv time for ALL candidates. Day 1 as President, I will overturn this corruption by freeing + pardoning the millions of slaves convicted of unconstitutional victimless+consensual crimes.
Sadly, he is just one of many recently convicted of corruption, which really must stop already. But the true corruption goes to the heart of the lobbying system that allows companies to donate to candidates' campaigns! There are even legislators, perhaps a majority, who work part time for the state, then part time as attorneys collecting fees from constituents to get what they want or need! Of course, the Citizens United case also made unlimited campaign spending allowed, which we also must end. Then there is the problem of the Judges, who are either appointed by the elected officials they are supposed to reign in, or are elected, often running on "anti-crime" platforms designed to steal our human rights to freedom, the very freedom the judges are supposed to protect others from stealing from us! Besides overturning the case, we still need massive campaign finance reform, with lots of free tv time for ALL candidates. Day 1 as President, I will overturn this corruption by freeing + pardoning the millions of slaves convicted of unconstitutional victimless+consensual crimes.
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Compare how aggressively federal prosecutors in New York have successfully pursued local corruption with the abject timidity of the New Jersey U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman who has yet to bring to trial any high level politicos in the Christie Administration.
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If you can honestly compare the outright theft of millions by Silver who used his political power to enrich himself to an unproven conspiracy to create a traffic jam at the George Washington Bridge, then you are really living in a delusional Democrat world.
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Less than two years before Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones paid for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s tickets and travel to NFL games, government documents show Christie personally pushed the Port Authority to approve a lucrative contract for a firm part-owned by Jones. Christie nonetheless accepted the gifts from Jones, despite New Jersey ethics rules barring gifts to public officials from persons or entities that those officials “deal with, contact, or regulate in the course of official business.”
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Anne,
Maybe there IS no corruption...
Funny how liberal Democrats want redemption from their party leaders' indiscretions when there are so few to see. Perhaps you'd do better wondering why so many Democrats are corrupt.
Maybe there IS no corruption...
Funny how liberal Democrats want redemption from their party leaders' indiscretions when there are so few to see. Perhaps you'd do better wondering why so many Democrats are corrupt.
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Guilty or not, Silver was a great leader of the Assembly, responsible for the advancement of a number of our freedoms, and the protection of the last vestige of affordable housing, rent stabilization, in New York. I hope his replacement does half as good a job.
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I hope his replacement isn't a big a crook!
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Danny B,
What do you mean "guilty or not"—he was found guilty. And you mention a positive legacy, but there was also THIS legacy, which is what this court was dealing with.
What do you mean "guilty or not"—he was found guilty. And you mention a positive legacy, but there was also THIS legacy, which is what this court was dealing with.
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But he was found guilty by a jury of his peers, and therefore he is GUILTY. One hopes that federal prosecutors weigh in on the other corrupt individuals in the New York Legislature.
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Open primaries would go a long way in solving the machine politics conducive to the attraction and continued corruption of candidates of low moral fiber. The voter bears responsibility for voting for such candidates without thought to the integrity of the candidate or Party that runs the individual. The Federal Government oversight must continue and intensify its laudible oversight of State Government until such time as the always present scoundrels that abound in the body politics fear involvement in the political process.
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And we 'expect' democracy to work in a country like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, etc. Those are all 'tribal' societies where the 'ordinary' folk 'must vote' for the tribal leaders .. OR ELSE!
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That is probably a long way off.
Mr Silver is still small peanuts compared to the theft that's occurring on Wall Street. Additionally, provided that the researcher used that grant money to actually study mesothelioma, I don't see anything egregiously inappropriate about that particular quid pro quo transaction. However the deal with the developer appear to be an old fashioned kick back.
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Comparative analysis concerning the actions of an individual crook is just plain dumb. Silver is a crook. Wall Street makes money according to the rules. If those rules are not being followed then the Democrat controlled Federal justice system needs to take action. So far, the Democrat Obama administration has not gone after Wall Street. There you go.
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Except for the enormous number of possible victims of asbestosis directly related to the 'pulling' of the WTC buildings by owner Larry Silverstein. The costs of remediation was apparently something he did not want to experience though the 3 towers were insured to $3 Billion.
Why is the 'researcher' off the hook. He was an essential in the scheme -- and MUST also be tried, if for nothing else, for conspiracy.
Here come all the Republicans to remind us how they've forgotten all of the Republican reps and senators convicted of all sorts of crimes.
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I don't see a single post like that.
I see only yours trying to deflect attention from the fact that this, now convicted criminal, is a Democrat.
I see only yours trying to deflect attention from the fact that this, now convicted criminal, is a Democrat.
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Seriously Yoyo?
Let's refresh some memories:
- the Moreland Commission, which was created by Democratic Governor Cuomo to investigate corruption in NYS, was never able to fulfill their mandate because of obstructions put in place by the very office that produced it.
- the commission was barred from issuing subpoenas to organizations with ties to Governor Cuomo
- the commission was barred from investigating improprieties by the NYS Executive Administration
- Governor Cuomo decision to abruptly disband the commission on the grounds executive authority caught the attention of US Attorney Preet Bahara
- Mr Bahara served as Chief Counsel to Democratic Senator Chas. Schumer
- Mr Bahara was nominated to become US Attorney for Southern District of NY by President Obama - a Democrat
So Mr Yoyo, where is the political bias by Republicans?
Lastly, perhaps ALL elected officials - Republican AND Democrats - should make haste in reassuring us publicly that Mr Silver had his day in court and was found guilty as charged and that further investigations into corruption in NYS are warranted and should continue. End of story.
Let's refresh some memories:
- the Moreland Commission, which was created by Democratic Governor Cuomo to investigate corruption in NYS, was never able to fulfill their mandate because of obstructions put in place by the very office that produced it.
- the commission was barred from issuing subpoenas to organizations with ties to Governor Cuomo
- the commission was barred from investigating improprieties by the NYS Executive Administration
- Governor Cuomo decision to abruptly disband the commission on the grounds executive authority caught the attention of US Attorney Preet Bahara
- Mr Bahara served as Chief Counsel to Democratic Senator Chas. Schumer
- Mr Bahara was nominated to become US Attorney for Southern District of NY by President Obama - a Democrat
So Mr Yoyo, where is the political bias by Republicans?
Lastly, perhaps ALL elected officials - Republican AND Democrats - should make haste in reassuring us publicly that Mr Silver had his day in court and was found guilty as charged and that further investigations into corruption in NYS are warranted and should continue. End of story.
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I'm relieved beyond words. This - with the Moreland Commission having been prematurely dismantled - is incredible! And to think how much farther we would have gotten, beyond Silver and Skelos, in completing this sordid cleanup had it been allowed to run its course!
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Finally... Now get Skelos & his perhaps not very bright son and maybe, if possible, go after Joe Bruno again. If only Mr. Bharara had tried Senator Bruno... "Theft of honest services..." Huh?????? Then there's the guy at the top of the "food chain..."
You know, "Everybody's doing it" didn't wash when we were kids. Our parents never bought it. My mom would ask rhetorically, "If 'all the kids' jumped in the Hudson River, would you jump?" Once I made a smartarse retort "Sure I would! I'm a competitive swimmer, theyre not!" Mom was not amused. I got my butt paddled and mouth washed out with soap. Our parents were TOUGH in that dinosauric era. (Thanks mom & dad!) Perhaps these former public officials' parents were not. Then too, "power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely." (I always believed Machiavelli but have seen other attributions.)
Shelly, if there's justice, we will not see you again till they carry you out in a body bag!
Mr. Bharara, there's a Capitol/LOB FULL of these guys--GO GET'EM!!! Then, as I said, there's the guy on top of the "food chain."
You know, "Everybody's doing it" didn't wash when we were kids. Our parents never bought it. My mom would ask rhetorically, "If 'all the kids' jumped in the Hudson River, would you jump?" Once I made a smartarse retort "Sure I would! I'm a competitive swimmer, theyre not!" Mom was not amused. I got my butt paddled and mouth washed out with soap. Our parents were TOUGH in that dinosauric era. (Thanks mom & dad!) Perhaps these former public officials' parents were not. Then too, "power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely." (I always believed Machiavelli but have seen other attributions.)
Shelly, if there's justice, we will not see you again till they carry you out in a body bag!
Mr. Bharara, there's a Capitol/LOB FULL of these guys--GO GET'EM!!! Then, as I said, there's the guy on top of the "food chain."
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Lord Acton: Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Probably sounds good in Italian, but it is not Machiavelli who said it. Machiavelli was not a critic of corruption, rather an instructor in ways of wielding power, accumulating more, and getting rid of anyone in your way. Well, there's no divine right of kings or princes anymore.
Probably sounds good in Italian, but it is not Machiavelli who said it. Machiavelli was not a critic of corruption, rather an instructor in ways of wielding power, accumulating more, and getting rid of anyone in your way. Well, there's no divine right of kings or princes anymore.
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It was Lord Acton.
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"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
Coined by the English Roman Catholic, Lord Acton, after his examination of the history of the Papacy. Google it.
Coined by the English Roman Catholic, Lord Acton, after his examination of the history of the Papacy. Google it.
This is long overdue. One can only hope it's followed by the real, not just promised, dislodgment of the Albany "culture," which makes a mockery of the state of our democracy in the state of New York.
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Many comments delight in Mr. Silver's guilty verdict, yet no one heard one word of testimony. Amazing! I have a bad feeling that many people had that presumption of guilt simply because he is a politician and was indicted. I served as juror on long trial several years ago, but in NYS Supreme Court. The charges were fraud and embezzlement. For the first 2 weeks the State put a very personable, entertaining man on the stand who plead guilty to similar crimes, worked at the same firm, but did not know the accused. Despite the judge's frequent exhortations (several times during the day) to keep an open mind, many jurors were convinced from Day 1 that he was guilty. It didn't help that he looked like a character on "The Sopranos".
Last week a juror complained about being disrespected and disregarded. I hope that wasn't because she felt Mr. Silver was not guilty or that the Government has not proved their case. Call me an idealist, but there is a big difference between "innocent" and "not guilty". Jurors must maintain and uphold that distinction. There's a lot of pressure inside a jury room. It's designed to wear down a hold-out and group-think is prevalent and overpowering.
Our judicial system should always be fair and seek truth and justice. However prosecutors seek to win at any cost and the defense will say anything to get a hung jury or a "not guilty", so the system does not live up to those ideals. In light of the juror's problems, I hope Mr. Silver received a fair trial.
Last week a juror complained about being disrespected and disregarded. I hope that wasn't because she felt Mr. Silver was not guilty or that the Government has not proved their case. Call me an idealist, but there is a big difference between "innocent" and "not guilty". Jurors must maintain and uphold that distinction. There's a lot of pressure inside a jury room. It's designed to wear down a hold-out and group-think is prevalent and overpowering.
Our judicial system should always be fair and seek truth and justice. However prosecutors seek to win at any cost and the defense will say anything to get a hung jury or a "not guilty", so the system does not live up to those ideals. In light of the juror's problems, I hope Mr. Silver received a fair trial.
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Mr. Silver did not testify, and his attorney did not have a defense case to present.
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Silver had the best defense money could buy. If you want to wring your hands and act concerned about defendant's rights, I suggest you focus on defendants who have no money, no power.
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This is entirely speculative and anecdotal, based on your personal experience in NYS Supreme Court.
This was a federal court trial and I quite certain that Mr. Silver had an excellent attorney--the best that money can buy--and the federal judge who heard the case is highly regarded.
I accept the jury verdict. The juror last week may have been confused or overwrought. If she believed that she was forced into submission I'm sure we'll hear all about it.
This was a federal court trial and I quite certain that Mr. Silver had an excellent attorney--the best that money can buy--and the federal judge who heard the case is highly regarded.
I accept the jury verdict. The juror last week may have been confused or overwrought. If she believed that she was forced into submission I'm sure we'll hear all about it.
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Finally! The verdict is in. He IS GUILTY of CORRUPTION. Now let's just lock him up and throw away the key. I do not want to see Silver's sanctimonious, entitled face on the front pages when there are are hundreds of juveniles and other young people thrown into our judicial system for petty crimes, given sentences not commiserate with the crime, permanently ruining their entire lives. This Sheldon is going to be more than OK. He will have his ill-gotten millions waiting for him after he steps out of a 5-star prison, released early for good behavior!!
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With all due respect you don't know what you are talking about. He has not been sentenced yet but in all likelihood in addition to jail time he will be ordered to disgorge all profits as a fine.
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He should have to pay a huge fine - like $4m - that will make him live humbly out his days after prison.
The next question will be if Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver can win an appeal as one of the men he ruled the state from "the three men in the room" with, NY Senator Joseph Bruno, who beat his conviction on appeal.
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Upon conviction of a felony NY legislators automatically forfeit their seats. Even if the trial was unfair or prejudicial and the conviction is reversed on Appeal there is no law providing for reinstatement to the office forfeited. Is this fair and just? Parenthetically, the same system many are saying is corrupt enacted many just and good laws helping thousands of We the People, so I suggest something significant is missing from the purist corruption analysis.
Preet Bharara does the state proud. When all is said and done, though, it's still trying to bring down a giant with pitchforks. Sure, they hurt, but to the giant they're no more than splinters.
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...it's not over 'til Judge Caproni denies the motions to dismiss. It's up to her to decide whether all of SS's secret and bad behavior amounts to a crime. Was there quid pro quo, a necessary element? All of the prosecution witnesses said no.
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I'm sure the defense made a motion for summary dismissal at the end of the trial.
If the judge thought there was "nothing there" she's already had a chance to do something about it.
If the judge thought there was "nothing there" she's already had a chance to do something about it.
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The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.
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Haven't heard that one in a while. It was one of my late mother's favorites, and mine.
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Good to see him convicted. A jail sentence is called for in this case.
Relatively speaking though, Silver’s crimes are penny ante stuff—providing grant money to a Columbia medical researcher in exchange for asbestos case referrals to a firm that employed Silver and getting other case referrals from a NYC real estate firm with interests in Albany legislation.
Ironically, most would agree Silver was an enemy of the NYC real estate industry, especially compared to Governor Cuomo, the State Senate leader Skelos and many Democrats in the Assembly.
Meanwhile former legislators and other insiders in Albany and DC join lobbying firms. This case changes none of that. And every single one of the hedge fund guys and investment bankers responsible for the financial debacle that put millions out of work have gotten off scot-free.
Relatively speaking though, Silver’s crimes are penny ante stuff—providing grant money to a Columbia medical researcher in exchange for asbestos case referrals to a firm that employed Silver and getting other case referrals from a NYC real estate firm with interests in Albany legislation.
Ironically, most would agree Silver was an enemy of the NYC real estate industry, especially compared to Governor Cuomo, the State Senate leader Skelos and many Democrats in the Assembly.
Meanwhile former legislators and other insiders in Albany and DC join lobbying firms. This case changes none of that. And every single one of the hedge fund guys and investment bankers responsible for the financial debacle that put millions out of work have gotten off scot-free.
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We all know that's just the tip of the iceberg. Similar to the tax evasion charges Al Capone was eventually convicted of, NY prosecutors just needed to be able to actually pin one of his countless acts of corruption on him, even if the actual crime appears petty. Silver was effectively the Don of the organized crime racket that was the NY Assembly.
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Tip of the iceberg, as far as I'm concerned about the convictions being "penny ante stuff." I wonder what massive harm he surreptitiously caused behind the scenes, impeding or undercutting legislation that was in the best interests of NYers because it wasn't in his best interest or the best interesting of his lumpen goombah. Hope lots of tall tales tumble out. I imagine that some writer is already working on a story about Silver and Bernie Madoff as cellmates swapping stories about their greed. With a stretch of the imagination, a good writer could come up with a Ménage à trois of Silver, Madoff and The Donald serving time together. Wow!
Can you please try to explain how hedge funds guys were responsible for the financial debacle?
Clearly a result of being in office way too long and being able to game the system for his own personal gain,
Term limits for our elected officials would not have allowed for such an ripe endemic culture of abuse that Mr Silver has now personified.
Term limits for our elected officials would not have allowed for such an ripe endemic culture of abuse that Mr Silver has now personified.
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Two points: Isn't it inaccurate to call this conviction a "capstone" of Preet Bharara's anti corruption trials with the Skelos trial still ongoing?
And didn't Glenwood Management figure in the Skelos trial, as well?
Maybe Bharara should dig deeper into Glenwood?
And didn't Glenwood Management figure in the Skelos trial, as well?
Maybe Bharara should dig deeper into Glenwood?
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Convicting Cuomo, who is sweating out an investigation by Bharara's office, would be a capstone.
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Agreed, Mark.
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Not that it should matter, but I am a democrat and have felt for many years it was time for Silver to go. He was always a stumbling block for all agendas or proposals, and not for All Good Reasons. He was an old dog a little too well fed. I never felt he had the city's best interests in his heart.
His time is over, all things shall pass.
His time is over, all things shall pass.
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Not surprised at the outcome considering his defense boiled down to: Everyone does it, so why are you picking on me?
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Corrupt elected officials are among the lowest forms of life. They ask voters to trust them, then immediately turn around and violate that trust out of pure greed. I'd also count the type of greedy bankers and others in the financial industry who caused so many people to lose so much. It's stealing and should be punished the same way as armed robbers and burglars who take a couple hundred bucks. The white collar criminals take millions. So please, no country club prisons or preferential treatment - the punishment should be commensurate with the crime.
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There is a huge difference in my mind. Elected Officials are chosen by voters and they take an oath to uphold the laws of the state or country.
The rest of us may be crooks, unethical and greedy but elected officials should be held to much higher standards. Personally, I believe they should be required to live under stricter laws and have harsher sentences than than those other crooks.
The rest of us may be crooks, unethical and greedy but elected officials should be held to much higher standards. Personally, I believe they should be required to live under stricter laws and have harsher sentences than than those other crooks.
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If public officials are elected from amongst the People why should it be surprising or warrant a greater punishment when they exhibit the same moral standards as the society-at-large has? If the moral standards of society are corrupt their representatives will also be corrupt.
Wait. He's convicted by a federal prosecutor and not a word as to his sentence, or potential sentence? Just forfeiting his Assembly seat?
And in the sentence "Mr. Silver also loomed large in financial disclosure reports that were required under a new state ethics law, reporting hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in outside income from a law firm, Weitz & Luxenberg," what is "looms large" supposed to mean? It is linked to a 60-line article, so it's hard to know what the link is trying to tell us.
And in the sentence "Mr. Silver also loomed large in financial disclosure reports that were required under a new state ethics law, reporting hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in outside income from a law firm, Weitz & Luxenberg," what is "looms large" supposed to mean? It is linked to a 60-line article, so it's hard to know what the link is trying to tell us.
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patience, first is the psr report, then the sentencing. if it is over 10 years, he wont be going to a camp. For one who has been to federal prison, for Mr. sheldon silver, it could be his death sentence and I dont wish this on my enemies. Prison is a dangerous place. In Fort Dix, a man was killed over taking someones chair for a tv show. In Italy, I read that anyone over 70 who is convicted of a non violent crime goes on home confinement. That is more humane. I saw a person who has 90 years old on a violation. At the table was four generations of people, from 90 to 20. Only in America. If you want to see what prison is about read...http://www.amazon.com/PRISON-expect-Federal-Bureau-Prisons-ebook/dp/B011... I dont wish prison on my enemies. It is brutal.
When your defense is basically, "hey, everyone does it," you know you're in trouble. Whether it's a policeman who has stopped you for speeding or a federal prosecutor who has you in his sights, the party's over.
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This is because the US Constitution is not followed. Opinion polls are not voting polls. There is an oligarchy which controls our country; the parties, courts and the press. Our representatives don't drive agreement, consensus around virtue instead they divide. Nor do they follow the myriad of statutes, regulations or rules they use to enslave us. Justice trumps "rule of Law", but who is just?... Only Christ, who with Mercy offers grace.
Time to peacefully oppose those who love corruption.
Time to peacefully oppose those who love corruption.
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The conviction of the highest official in the State Assembly while the head of the State Senate is simultaneously on trial for corruption is evidence, as the U.S. Attorney has said, that corruption reaches the highest levels of our state government. The governor should address this after the trial of the Senate leader is finished. We must ask if this Live and Let Steal culture permeates the entire legislature.
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Well stated -- but, seriously, is there any question but that a culture of corruption rules Albany ? And if both houses of the legislature are corrupt, what confidence can we have that the governor is not ? -- And, why does it take a Federal trial to oust these officials ? Where is the NY Attorney General ? Or dare we not ask....
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It certainly seems to considering all the other convictions of assembly and senate memmbers. We seem to have forgotten the articles on our new leader Mr Heastie.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/nyregion/carl-heastie-new-york-assembl...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/nyregion/carl-heasties-campaign-spendi...
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/let-the-voters-decide-nah...
Biznez as usual. Different borough and race - SAME CORRUPTION/CRONYISM!!!!! Throw all the bums out!
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/nyregion/carl-heastie-new-york-assembl...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/nyregion/carl-heasties-campaign-spendi...
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/let-the-voters-decide-nah...
Biznez as usual. Different borough and race - SAME CORRUPTION/CRONYISM!!!!! Throw all the bums out!
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The Governor cannot order the State Legislature to do anything. Are you trusting the same Governor that dissolved the Moreland Commission to do justly?
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I cannot for the life of me figure out how an attorney can stand there and tell us, with a straight face, that blatant bribery is the way our founding fathers wanted it. Is he angling for a job with Trump & Company?
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A quick analysis of the US Sentencing Guidelines shows a possible sentence of 121 mos. on the low end of the range. It's all up to Judge Caproni, who may issue a sentence outside of the guideline range given his age, but he is not starting from a good place.
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Orange is the new Silver!
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Love it ! A bad guy who had it coming for a very long time. Next up, Bruno.
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No, Silver is the new orange. Good-bye pinstripe suit.
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GREED, MR. Silver. A life of luxury and power. A pompous fool where the power went to your head. You should live the rest of your life in confinement.
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"Mr. Silver’s lawyers argued that in charging him, Mr. Bharara’s office has sought to criminalize the kinds of activity in which state legislators routinely engaged." Unfortunately, the attorneys are correct. This type of activity by our legislators is all too routine.
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But corruption is illegal. So, isn't it the pattern of behavior that matters as opposed to the narrow view of a specific action. Yes, referrals are legal but not when you get them only because of a public office you were elected to. It is an abuse of power, regardless if the specific activity is not specifically illegal. Buy stock is not illegal, but doing it with inside knowledge is. See the dichotomy there?
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About time. Sentencing should reflect the gravity of his crimes.
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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Too bad for Mr. Silver. Frankly, I though that what he did was objectionable but not illegal. I will bet that the 2nd circuit will weigh in within a year and it is possible that the conviction could be reversed on the law.
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How could this not be illegal? Give state funds to one entity in exchange for a huge personal payout from another? Only one step removed? I am not a lawyer, but that does not sound like law-abiding behavior to me.
Influencing state law when one receives a unique and direct financial benefit from it? This was not reducing sales tax that everyone benefits from. Shelly made money himself. AND did not disclose it.
May he rot in prison for a long time.
Influencing state law when one receives a unique and direct financial benefit from it? This was not reducing sales tax that everyone benefits from. Shelly made money himself. AND did not disclose it.
May he rot in prison for a long time.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure fee splitting is illegal.
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With regard to Weitz & Luxemberg, there was no fee-splitting, as Silver was a member of that firm. Different story re the property tax firm.
“They look at conduct which is legal,” one defense lawyer, Steven F. Molo, told the jury in his opening statement, “conduct which is normal, conduct which allows government to function consistent with the way that our founding fathers of the state of New York wanted it to function, and they say this is illegal.”
What a shame--he had to bring the "founding fathers" into the discussion, as if the founding fathers of any geographic entity in this country were ever wholly ethical or strangers to immorality.
What a shame--he had to bring the "founding fathers" into the discussion, as if the founding fathers of any geographic entity in this country were ever wholly ethical or strangers to immorality.
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Big government has always fostered corruption, abuse of power, kickbacks and scheming. A cautionary tale, indeed.
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Yeah but not a cautionary tale that should lead to a conservative dream of a government small enough to drown in the bathtub - sorry.
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What does that have to do with the subject at hand?
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Aristotle once described the democratic mode of choosing officeholders: Put all the citizens' names into a pot and select however many we need. Democracy means equal opportunity, after all. This always seemed to me a rather stupid idea . . . until a few moments' reflection on the New York state legislature.
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It seems the public's expectations of it's elected leaders have been lowered so much and our trust in government eroded, to the point that Mr. Preet Bharara looks like a super hero, just by merely showing up for work and carrying on his duties.
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and talks like duck...........
He surely used his office for personal gain to the detriment of NYS taxpayers. Still, I'm a bit surprised as his actions are commonplace in the cesspool otherwise known as Albany. Congratulations to Mr. Bharara, well done. I am a bit fearful of the appeal process as evidenced by the exoneration of Joe Bruno who also claimed to be doing the people's business as was typically done.
He surely used his office for personal gain to the detriment of NYS taxpayers. Still, I'm a bit surprised as his actions are commonplace in the cesspool otherwise known as Albany. Congratulations to Mr. Bharara, well done. I am a bit fearful of the appeal process as evidenced by the exoneration of Joe Bruno who also claimed to be doing the people's business as was typically done.
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How sweet it is! To see a serpent pol like Silver go down gives one sweet satisfaction. Now that the big fish has been hooked, let's see how much he sings to reduce his sentence and incriminate others. A U.S. Attorney with a whole state legislature to mine for Silver-connected criminals, not to mention the doctors and the law firms, has to be salivating over his conquest.
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Good heavens!
And when will we see Bill de Blasio probed for his part in getting Maimonides Hospital to create a high-paying job for his wife when he was in a position to give money to various institutions?
There had been no such job at Maimonides before; then there was, and de Blasio's wife got it.
And Maimonides got its funding.
Legal it might have been, just as it's legal for lawyers to refer clients to other lawyers and collect a fee for those referrals.
I'd say telling an institution to create a big job for an inexperienced wife in return for big bucks is worse.
And when will we see Bill de Blasio probed for his part in getting Maimonides Hospital to create a high-paying job for his wife when he was in a position to give money to various institutions?
There had been no such job at Maimonides before; then there was, and de Blasio's wife got it.
And Maimonides got its funding.
Legal it might have been, just as it's legal for lawyers to refer clients to other lawyers and collect a fee for those referrals.
I'd say telling an institution to create a big job for an inexperienced wife in return for big bucks is worse.
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This is typical desperate right wing conservative deflection attempting to drag De Blasio into Silver's corruption,, but it is telling that you prefer a corrupt Democratic than a progressive one.
What do you think the essence of "political horsetrading" is? Isn't it you pat my back and I'll pat yours? POTUS will promise project goodies in exchange for favorable Congress votes. It's endemic in the political system and it has never been considered a crime.
Would be great if Preet could 'flip' Silver and then we could clean up that cesspool in Albany, despite Cuomo's crass disbanding of the Moreland Commission.
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I'm sure Andrew is a tad nervous these days. Shelly -- gone. Bruno -- on his way. They are thick as thieves and create a culture of tolerance. Silver suffered the arrogance of excess power, the rules do not apply. Clay feet, indeed. Shelly will appeal, be affirmed, do about 8 years in Club Fed, disappear with a few million stashed. Live out his life in comfortable disgrace in his shabby Brooklyn habitat. Good riddance.
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Great conviction where the quid pro quo was understood. It is interesting that the Doctor only benefited from the arrangement in that he would receive grants from the state to help cure a form of cancer; Silver received the names of people suffering from cancer and forwarded them on for which he received huge sums of money for doing nothing but a referral. The doctor is doing good; Silver used his office for greedy selfishness. The right person is going to jail.
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Seems that Anti-Semitism is alive and well in the US Attorney's office.
Targeting such a good man as Mr. Silver is shameful.
Targeting such a good man as Mr. Silver is shameful.
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Your idea of a good man is very questionable.
Why is he a good man, because he is Jewish?
Why is it anti-Semitic to prosecute a criminal?
Why is he a good man, because he is Jewish?
Why is it anti-Semitic to prosecute a criminal?
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I don't think it's Anti-Semitism, but I am sorry to see him convicted because he was the only voice supporting renters in New York for decades. I just wish he hadn't succumbed to the status quo.
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Incredible. Because he's Jewish, he's automatically innocent.
You need to read about what your "good man" actually did, and why he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
You need to read about what your "good man" actually did, and why he was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
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Tip of the iceberg. Skelos is next. Finding corruption in Albany is like shooting fish in a barrel. It will take years to get through all of the muck up there.
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So, will this crook still get his state pension and other benefits?????
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I think the law forbids stripping his pension. When the former Superintendent of Schhols was jailed for corruption, he receivd his six figure pension while in prison.
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Yes, he will get his pension.
He earned his pension from close to 40 years of employment. Denying him a pension for one mistake would be cruel and unusual punishment.
You go, Preet Bharara! So happy to see the good guys win one for a change!
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Corruption must be paid for in jail,2 years or more & jail while making endless appeals.
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I am assuming there is a legal pension plan, aside from whatever graft the legislator can generate. Having been convicted, does he forfeit his state pension plan and if so, why?
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Why not.While they are at it they should take back all the money he was paid if it leaves him broke who cares?
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Sometimes the bad ones get caught.
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Preet Bharara is my lord and savior. I shall not want.
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Will Silver now turn on Cuomo and others in order to get out of a long sentence?
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This is yet another-anti-semitic witch hunt. The ones who are harassing the son of Holocaust survivors should be the ones in jail. Go after the Italians like Cuomo; you think he's going to be clean?
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I am embarrassed to be Jewish when I read something like this. Shelly is a disgrace to all people; I am just ashamed that he is one of us.
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Wow. So he gets a pass based on that? We deal with enough of that garbage in Rockland County (and Orange County, and Lakewood, NJ).
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yeah, like Madoff, innocent as charged!
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Please come to East Ramapo soon. Your team has been working for several years on the corrupt builders and politicians. Thousands of people in Monsey and New Square are involved in illicit activities. WE REALLY NEED YOU HERE!!! Shelly had a direct line to our fraudsters. FOLLOW THE GREED.
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Hear, Hear! Preet Bharara will not be afraid of the Bloc vote and the politicians it owns!
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not to be cynical but Sheldon Silver will appeal and probably only get house arrest pending his appeal. He is too well connected.
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Does he go straight to jail? Or does he sit at home while on appeal?
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Judge Caproni has a tremendous amount of discretion in fashioning an appropriate sentence here. She likely will consider the nature of the crimes, the Federal Sentencing Guidelines, any aggravating (Silver's position in the Assembly) factors and any mitigating (Silver's age) ones and a wealth of other information contained in a pre-sentence report. But this is a case where the sentence must send a clear message to other politicians in any position that if you abuse your office for personal gain, you will be punished swiftly and severely.
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Swiftly? How is a conviction after 40 years of breaking the law swift?
There are numerous levels of "equal justice under the law". Most likely Mr. Silver will sit at home while the appeals process meanders along. The sentencing process will consider his 'years of service to his constituents' and deal him a light sentence in a comfortable prison especially constructed and managed for the likes of Sheldon Silver. All the while, the nation will meander along, looking for the next Mr. Silver to be dealt a one-in-a-thousand special sentence for the well connected.
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TM, there is no evidence whatsoever that he broke the law for 40 years. Rather, this appears to be one mistake made near the end of his career.
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no worries---the crook will do light time in some easy federal pen, then get out with most of the millions that he bribed and stole---book it! He runs the state!
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Actually I'll wager a much less publicized civil suit will follow from the State and fines imposed.
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there is no such things as light time for this type of case. I sat 1316 in seven institutions for a white collar crime and it felt forever. Every day you are in jail your life is in danger. You don't know what you are talking about. You did not sit in jail. I did. It is scary and brutal.
Never thought it would happen; delighted that it did.
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It tells you what you need to know about the man that his defense was to demean the institution where he spent 40 years.
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Mr. Silver deserves prison for a very long time for what he did.
What he did not get convicted of, unfortunately, is the abuse of power that led to far greater financial damage to the people of New York: his failure to recuse himself from discussions on tort reform (actually, his active effort to block any debate on tort reform) given his previously obvious and now proven conflict of interest.
That damage is immeasurable.
Hopefully the legislature will now do what's right and at least begin debate.
Thank you Mr. Bharara; you have made a very small step towards punishing this most disgusting pig that ruled Albany.
What he did not get convicted of, unfortunately, is the abuse of power that led to far greater financial damage to the people of New York: his failure to recuse himself from discussions on tort reform (actually, his active effort to block any debate on tort reform) given his previously obvious and now proven conflict of interest.
That damage is immeasurable.
Hopefully the legislature will now do what's right and at least begin debate.
Thank you Mr. Bharara; you have made a very small step towards punishing this most disgusting pig that ruled Albany.
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Oh, so his real crime was not letting malpracticing doctors get away with harming patients?
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No sir. His real crime was thwarting democracy by single-handedly blocking a discussion or a vote on laws that would directly impact his personal bank account. Think scaffold law... NY is the only state that still has this and costs the Tappan Zee construction hundreds of millions extra.
And no- he did not prevent doctors from getting away with harming patients. He helped continue a travesty of justice in which anonymous physicians can certify cases against honest doctors, where injured patients cannot get a fair deal, where good doctors are harassed.
And no- he did not prevent doctors from getting away with harming patients. He helped continue a travesty of justice in which anonymous physicians can certify cases against honest doctors, where injured patients cannot get a fair deal, where good doctors are harassed.
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Tort reform will never happen. Too many lawyers in Albany making too much money from this stupid system. We will all continue to be the victims.
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Why do I think that this is only the tip of the Albany corruption iceberg?
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Because you have a brain? BA, any intelligent person recognizes that Silver was just one of several who participated in this nonsense.
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Hooray for our side
Congrats to Mr Bharare
Congrats to Mr Bharare
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Couple of questions:
1) If Mr Silver's conviction stands after what will surely be interminable appeals, will he get to collect a pension that we defrauded chumps will pay for and
2) Will the Assembly let him keep his seat while he appeals? These questions
may have ready answers in NY Statutes or the NY Constitution and I defer to
my knowledgeable (non-chump) commenters for answers.
1) If Mr Silver's conviction stands after what will surely be interminable appeals, will he get to collect a pension that we defrauded chumps will pay for and
2) Will the Assembly let him keep his seat while he appeals? These questions
may have ready answers in NY Statutes or the NY Constitution and I defer to
my knowledgeable (non-chump) commenters for answers.
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He is automatically out of office on conviction. His pension is not affected.
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His pension should be revoked, since it was earned as a result of illegal activities. If not, then it would be as if I robbed a bank and, when found guilty, could keep the gains of the robbery.
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Unfortunately, Silver's modus operandi is the norm rather than the exception not only in Albany, but by most political officeholders. He just happened to be the one that was targeted for prosecution in this case.
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Victory for justice. Hopefully Silver can now spend his time being slimy and corrupt in prison rather than in office.
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New Yorkers are very fortunate to have Preet Bahara doing his job. However, this unequivocal guilt serves as an important reminder that Gov. Cuomo reneged on his promise to confront corruption when he disbanded the Moreland Commission.
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I am hoping that Gov. Cuomo will be next!
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Magnificent job by Preet Bharara and associates!
This has been a very long time coming; and it's fantastic to see someone FINALLY held accountable for the stink out of Albany.
This has been a very long time coming; and it's fantastic to see someone FINALLY held accountable for the stink out of Albany.
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Hallelujah! Bravo to the jury. Thank you to the prosecutors. We will never know the true depths of this man's corruption, but at least we were able to get him on something. Those who are given the amount of trust this man was given deserve severe punishment for taking advantage of so many of us.
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For all the riches he reaped through his office, he seems a rather forlorn and poignant figure mounting the courthouse steps on his day of reckoning.
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They always seem that way after they are caught. Never before.
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If one has to sit one day in jail, money is not worth it. Every day in prison your life is in danger. For my crime of immigration fraud, my penalty was a five year prison sentence and that was brutal. I dont wish jail on my enemies. I saw and heard of people badly injured, murdered, raped and other horrible things that happened behind the barbed wire fences. A white collar criminal faces potential death sentence. There has to be a more human way. Lord. There has to be.
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It is really very simple.
Don't commit a crime and you won't have to worry about going to jail.
Don't commit a crime and you won't have to worry about going to jail.
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Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
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One crook among thousands of self serving, oligarch backed, bought and paid for, politicians across the country. In the end, Mr. Silver will not see any prison time, or if he does, it would be in a "country club" prison.
I wonder when the people of America will come to realize that their so called "elected representatives" are in office because the the pleasure of the oligarchy. And that one's vote is nothing more than a proxy.
The New York Times, yesterday, had a nice long article concerning wealth and politics in Illinois. Do not be surprised if the same thing is going on in places like Albany, Hartford, Boston, Columbus, Lansing, Madison and a state capital near you; or in Washington, DC.
Mr. Silver got caught, he is the fall guy for those who have yet to get caught. A sacrifice for business as usual. I wonder what the tipping point is; in which the masses say; "Enough1".
I wonder when the people of America will come to realize that their so called "elected representatives" are in office because the the pleasure of the oligarchy. And that one's vote is nothing more than a proxy.
The New York Times, yesterday, had a nice long article concerning wealth and politics in Illinois. Do not be surprised if the same thing is going on in places like Albany, Hartford, Boston, Columbus, Lansing, Madison and a state capital near you; or in Washington, DC.
Mr. Silver got caught, he is the fall guy for those who have yet to get caught. A sacrifice for business as usual. I wonder what the tipping point is; in which the masses say; "Enough1".
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there is no such things as "country club prison". As part of my diesel therapy, I was also in camp Otisville. Everything about your life is full of restrictions. You are away from your family and loved ones. The punishment does not fit the crime.
Mr. Silver would never survive in a place like Attica. A place where the not connected end up for felonies. People who commit "white collar" crime should not end up in a place where they have no razor wire fences and guard towers, they deserve to be in a place like Sing Sing, as depicted in the movie like "20,000 Years in Sing Sing".
Maybe you think the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but millions think that "white collar" criminals do not get the punishment they deserve. For if they did, we would not have had the Great Recession.
Maybe you think the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but millions think that "white collar" criminals do not get the punishment they deserve. For if they did, we would not have had the Great Recession.
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The article about Illinois is a bit different. In that state the newly elected Republican governor is attempting to shake up the corrupt and over spending Democratic machine that has ruled the roost for many years with complicit help from many Republicans. He is raising money from outsiders to buck the insiders. Of course he has his own pro-business anti-public sector union bent and that appeals to those supporting him. No one has accused him of corruption. He's worth $500 million or so and therefore Sheldon Silver's or Dean Skelos's petty corruption wouldn't interest him.
Sheldon Silver is one among so many who profit obscenely from Government. Of course, he's not the only politician who's found away. There are many many supposed "business people" who live off Government that, in its way, Sheldon Silver is a petty thief whose proved defalcations are less at the expense of the Public Purse than having a "referral relationship" with a law firm. Sheldon Silver, by being automatically disbarred as result of his felony conviction will allow that Disciplinary authorities to evade the need to bring charges for having received fees and doing no work and, for others, the band will play on.
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I'd like to see a tally of the damage Sheldon Silver actually caused. People think that white collar crime isn't so bad. What happened in 2008 with banks and the economy may have changed that point of view a bit. However, it should be reinforced that there is no such thing as a victimless crime even if the politicians and others convicted of them try to tell us that no one was hurt.
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This crook must go to jail & be fined every nickle he illegally earned.
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My business was a victim of Albany corruption in the past decade and i was repeatedly laughed at by each of a half dozen lawyers who contemplated my grievances against Albany.
Every response was: LOL "You can't sue the State of New York"
Thank You, Preet!!
Every response was: LOL "You can't sue the State of New York"
Thank You, Preet!!
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He defended the city from the suburbs and upstate, and his counterparts defended upstate and the suburbs from the city. This ongoing struggle was waged essentially by three men, not by the citizens of New York State or the 213 representatives they elected. That he also lined his pockets and hurt some people in the process is not really the important issue, and should not have produced his downfall.
Good to see that USA Bharara can get a conviction - as we've seen with other high-profile cases, like the insider trading cases, just because the evidence is there, hasn't meant a conviction was forthcoming. Keep up the good work, US attorneys!
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