‘The Walking Dead’ Season 6, Episode 7: Glenn’s Fate Is Revealed

Glenn! I've always liked the character (well, the actor really), but I don't like being manipulated and treated like an idiot by what is often a clever show. I don't remember any character surviving any experience as close to what Glenn went through. So that alleviates the danger inherent in future supposedly-deadly situations. Too bad. The show has usually had a kind of inner logic. With that gone, the storytelling will have lost a lot. (still good to have Glenn back, Though.)

I think this season has been a real disappointment, just marking time and going around in circles. Even the much-anticipated Wolves have turned out, so far, to be nothing but a blip. To cap it all, now Glenn has miraculously survived. I guess anything can happen. Yawn.

That is the best looking zombie-man I've ever seen.

Anyone with teenage girls in their lives secretly hoping that Glenn blew off whiny Enid and she was consumed by zombies - in really... really... slow motion.

I am glad Glenn is back, but I agree that the whole plot line was distracting and uncredible. I may be wrong, but I have never seen a dumpster with enough clearance beneath it to allow someone to crawl under — even someone as small as Glenn. I felt I'd been hoodwinked. I found it hard to believe and kind of a cheat. The Walker equivalent of Bobby Ewing in the shower.
And what's with all the unnecessary heroics? Sometimes heroism is absolutely necessary, meaningful and even tragic. Tara's courageousness on the wall was appropriate. (I can't decide if Spencer's attempt was heroic and stupid, a calculated plot device or both. See question 2 below.) Maggie's trying to go find Glenn, and Ron's intention to find Enid were unnecessary and stupid. I am glad they were stopped. Maggie — certainly — and Ron should have known better. These needless acts and other examples throughout the season have me swearing at the TV.
I also have two questions:
First, why has everyone forgotten the effectiveness of covering oneself with walker guts? Have the walkers gotten smarter? I doubt they are that much smarter. Wouldn't it be an good way to walk through the horde at the walls to get at the cars?
Second, was the roof of the church where Spencer anchored his grappling hook? Spencer as plot device. I think it was. I viewed it again, but I just can't tell. There was enough foreshadowing with the timber falling off throughout the episode.
I'll still watch, but I am sometimes disappointed.

Glenn Snow (good one, btw). Didn’t mind lack of leg nibbling as walkers are historically fickle in their dining preferences. Didn’t mind no proof of death. That goes with ZA territory. (In fact, it’s odd this is 1st time for that.) Didn’t mind memorial wall--a natural response for the Alexandrians. (They’re like college freshmen.) But I did mind being misled. I did mind all the wordy pseudo-explanations from Gimple on The Talking Dead. (My rule of thumb for BS; if it takes more than 15 seconds, has too many words, & seems a bit vague, it’s BS.) I did mind their gaming the Yuen credits. (BTW, after Jeffrey DeMunn’s & Sarah Wayne Callies’ characters died, their names were on the credits even tho they weren’t heard or seen in an episode.) Last night, Gimple said the purpose was to remind us that uncertainty is part of the ZA, and, besides, anyone looking from a certain angle would believe Glenn died. Ahem, Mr. Gimple. It was for US the camera angle was specifically planned, and it was misleading. Uncertainty (and ratings) would have benefited in the short-term and long-term if the camera had shown it was Nicholas’s guts, Glenn desperately trying to get under the dumpster, and cut scene. AMC is treating us like walkers.

So funny ...

"For one thing, it’s simply implausible that with so many zombies descending upon him, not one would give him a nibble. I’m sure fresh innards are the Cronut of the walker diet but do you mean to tell me there wasn’t a single leg-man in the crowd? Glenn’s were just lying there, uncovered by Nicholas, ready for the feasting. (Side note: Happy Thanksgiving!)"

Thanks for prose which had me laughing out loud. I had a similar thought but would never have stated so artfully!

I'm traumatized. Carl took up with his BFF again, after said BFF being thankfully missing - the hat. I hate the hat.

The whole thing with the wolf in the Alexandria jail is at least in part a play on what to do with terrorists. Wish the Times would do less recapping and more reviewing and analyzing.

In addition to being manipulative, the whole scenario was a farce since it defies logic to think that he would not have been bitten once while stuck under a lifeless body and surrounded by dozens of walkers. I guess the whole show defies logic, but still.

This season is running fairly parallel to the comics and (spoiler coming up here if a character name & function is a spoiler) this is about the same phase of the story line that the comics lost a lot of fans. They're gearing up to introduce a new heavy by the name of Neagan and for me this is where the comics lost if for me, for a variety of reasons but mostly a arc where it seemed like the authors were determined to see how long and sadistically they could draw out the death of one of the principle characters.

This failing runs hand in hand with my biggest criticism of the show, too often this show is an exercise in misanthropy with too many story lines being reduced to every one you meet on the way wants to beat/rape/kill/subjugate you and the story arc around the introduction of Neagan has too much of these elements in it and really, we've been down this road too many times.

I know that people argue that the Walking Dead of the show are the survivors however there is so much opportunity here that is squandered with yet another story line with people that embody hate and malice. Max Brooks' "World War Z" really breathed some fresh life into the genre and showed what could be done and there's just not enough world building here. They could easily plunder "The World Without Us" for ideas on how to present a world where most of the people are no longer functioning in the traditional sense. This season has been a disappointment since the first episode.

I like Glenn, but I would be more upset if Rick, Carl, Darryl, or Carol were knocked off.

I was shocked by the supposed death, but totally didn't miss him in the next episodes and actually felt Maggie was resolved (although she was hoping) to his death, in which case we would be subjected to yet another character going off the deep end after a death. Now *that* would be more intolerable than his death. Actually, I'm thinking his being alive means some other beloved character may be on the way.

Please don't kill off any of the core people this season AMC I don't think I could take that yet. Especially, don't kill off anyone trying to save someone like the priest. Not ready for Morgan to be knocked off, but please let him see the light.

There are too many characters on the show right now, and that seems to be diluting the energy in the writing for everyone. Characters who don't seem to be moving things forward: Gabriel (can't we please let him go?); Denise, Deanna, and Spencer. I'm also ready to see Mullet Man step up or get eaten.
There is plenty of tension around Pete's boys, and hopefully Enid will do something interesting with her survival savvy.

I guess I feel kinda manipulated too, but since I'm suffering from Stockholm syndrome I forgave them since its probably my fault anyway.

I'm real happy for Glenn & Maggie; sad for Steven Yuen.

This episode was a refresher course on moral dilemmas in the ZA. I liked it, and am "one of those" who enjoy a bit of conversational soul sorting during lulls in the gooshing and cracking.

We had the Morgan "summit"--is "All life is precious" all bad all the time? We had Glenn mentoring Enid--we're traumatized, feel survivor guilt, but press on to live for the dead. We had Rosita schooling Eugene (one of the best moments in show)--it's easy to die, harder to live--esp if you don't do everything in your power to save those around you. We had Carol w/Sam--what/who are the monsters; how do you become a monster? And, even when one is certain we become monsters b/c we didn't kill, one can have doubts (Carol's reaction to hearing herself).

On a related note, we had Deanna & Tara telling Rick he's still a decent, thoughtful guy at heart. Rick's (and Morgan's) current evolution will face a more serious test a little later on. Things could get interesting--genuinely.

Cheap stunt it was, and so well predicted on the Internet, I couldn't even get all that excited about his resurrection, though I do love Glenn. "....innards are the Cronut of the walker diet" made me laugh out loud.

Have to wonder why Carol is not in charge of the armory? and why did no one notice the crumbling church tower?

Well sure, lots of people are mad about having their chain yanked over Glenn being apparently dead then not. And I agree that last week's episode with Maggie and Aaron in the tunnel was the weakest of the season. But I'm still happy he made it, he's about the most steadfastly moral character, smart too, doesn't make too many massive mistakes like the other ones. His main one thus far was trusting Nick to shape up.

I think there was a lot of thoughtful stuff about decision making this week. Rick decides to save Spencer rather than try to break out and draw walkers away. Tara likewise puts herself at risk to save the big dumb guy. Glenn determinedly hauls Enid back when honestly the smart move was to say, thanks for the water, and leave her. Ron decides to kill Carl because he's so patronizing. Morgan's explanation for his actions was also interesting to me. And it all points towards questioning what we do in real life; should we do the things that will be best for us personally, or try to help other people at a cost to ourselves?

Anyway all that aside, it was an entertaining show I thought, and I was glad to see my stubborn predictions come true, that Glenn was still a non-zombie and the walls were about to crash down, with walkers swarming through town. With any luck that'll kill Ron, as fated, and maybe alter Carl rather permanently.

For all those who are fed up with the show because of the Glenn thing, keep in mind, there aren't any other good zombie shows.

I have to re-watch last night's episode, missed a few minutes here and there. But what the heck did Carol say to the kid who is too scared to come downstairs since the wolves attacked? Something about killing makes us not monsters? His brother is gunning for Carl but I bet this kid gets his hands on a gun and starts shoots the "good guys" too.

It's an ambivalent feeling knowing that Glenn is alive and still part of the group. On one hand I'm glad that he's on the show because he's one of the few good people left in the apocalyptic world we've come to know, but on the other hand I feel the show lost credibility resorting to cheap stunts and loosely crafted storylines by allowing him to escape the way he did. Not since Rick was caught under the tank back in Atlanta, only to be helped by Glenn, have we seen such a Houdini-type escape. The difference, for me anyway, was that the show was young enough to hold your interest and not question the integrity of the writing because after all it is a show about the end of the world. Overall I'm glad he's back but any feel good or heart warming moments like seeing those balloons fly away were quickly dashed by a crumbling tower breaching the wall and that reminds us that's no one or no place is safe.

Thanks for ruining the episode with putting a SPOILER IN THE FIRST SENTENCE of your article. That caught the newsfeed, and you ruined it. Ruiner.

I'm glad Glenn has survived, no matter how cheaply the writers joked on his "presumed" death. As i said before he is the pristine survivalist and the positive spirit of the show.
For sure, i've never seen the dumpster as a possible tiny cover, unless you're implying something Tyrionesque about it. Plus we now know Enid was a bystander of the whole event, which depicts her as some sort of younger version of Nicholas, so far.
I really caught the irony of the couple trying to enter Alexandria, while the chapel is crumbling over the wall, and the hopeful green balloons are floating for Maggie and the others. As the dandy said: "the worst thing it could happen to a man is to get what he desired".
Morgan is finally evolving into, i'm sorry to say that, Lizzie's mentality. When she played with zombies, he's playing with "wolves"; she fed them, he wants to heal them; she experimented with a zomby in a earthhole, he experiments with a "wolf" in a cell. And both times they were confronted by you-know-who: Carol ! I'm not saying Morgan is going to be killed, but the fortune is not looking at him ( he could have brought in the med by the first time ).
I've really liked the philosophical game of guess-what: consequences are random ! I saved you and so you saved me ( is this a Beatles song's lyrics? ) AND we both are alive. In fact i want to push it even further: was Spencer's attempt the cause of the final chapel collapse? Is Deanna the Rick's crew savior and their worst ally?

GLENN is ALIVE!

clap...clap.... yawn.

TWD is like that local diner with awful food and worse coffee but it is open late and very occasionally there is a colorful argument among the regular zombies... I mean ... customers, so it is sometimes fun to hang out there.

I know that I should be feeling manipulated about Glenn, but to be honest, I had decided he was alive three weeks ago and was just glad he's OK. What's not OK is breaking up the Walking Dead/Talking Dead one-two punch that makes the TWD a community just to get ratings on a new show. Bad move, show runners and one you should rethink before next week.

As glad as I was in my heart to see Glenn, I agree that the road to there was less serious. Perhaps, if Enid had played a slightly larger role in his rescue rather than the throwing a water bottle from up high, that might have been a dramatic consolation. She could have been unintentional (in the way teens can be) instrumental in his rescue and still annoyingly reclusive (as teens can be).
Just a thought.
I also agree that Morgan's more nuanced argument "People can change. All of us here have." gave me pause. But just as there is no ministry to the Walkers, there's no sympathy to the members of Terminus, and the Wolves have declared themselves as deadly (without deception) to the group. So until there is a stable world order re-established, your enemy is your enemy.

TWD is becoming something I need to get through so I can enjoy
Hardwick's after show. It's becoming a chore.

I'm putting all my eggs in the Fear basket. It's a far superior show in both writing and cast, I hope it stays true to it's beginnings.

Breaking Bad did incredible things with a smaller cast in less catastrophic circumstances. TWD could be amazing, instead it's more like a post apoc The Love Boat. Only it's not 'exciting and new' and I don't want to 'come aboard'.

Ugh, Glenn being alive ruined the whole episode for me. Don't get me wrong, I liked Glenn and was sad to see him "die" but this whole he slid away under the dumpster and waited thing is more a fitting plot for All My Children - IT WAS HER UNKNOWN TWIN SISTER WHO DIED!!! - than TWD.

In my opinion, there are two types of people watching TWD, the one who craves the zombie bashing blood bath and the one who enjoys the human element of post apocalyptic survival and compassion of the original core group of survivors. The last two episodes, again my opinion, has catered to the former by playing to raw emotions of "please don't kill my favorite character" and the poor and sloppy writing that goes along with it (much less thinking is required for plot development). I am still holding out hope that some measure of intelligence will be inserted back into the scripts and we can enjoy what has become an entertaining and interesting television series.

Ouch. Painfully inept dialogue throughout as characters provide needless explanations of themselves, and in spite of all this tedious self-examination, they do dumb things anyway. And dumb as it was, Deanna's son doing that wire crawl made no sense at all; it wasn't grounded in anything organic about the character as we know him so far. I could barely stand to watch the episode. (if I were writing this episode, it should have dealt with the interrogation of the surviving Wolf they've taken captive - we know next to nothing about the Wolves.) I'm not expecting high art, but competent script construction for a production company like AMC, home of Breaking Bad and Mad Men, shouldn't be too tall an order. Simply, the Walking Dead scripts over the last weeks have been inexcusably bad. The narratives are aimless, meandering and devoid of intrigue.

Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn, Glenn!!!! I don't care if other people think this is a cheap stunt, I'm just glad he's still alive. He's the moral compass of the show, while a badass in his own right. (Plus, Steven Yeun, whom we met last year at Walker Stalker Con is a complete sweetheart of a human being) I loved how he signaled to Maggie with the balloons at the end, as it seemed such a wonderfully creative Glennish thing to do. I'd love to see him have a chance to meet his baby, but maybe that's hoping for too much. Still, other characters who are supposed to be dead have lived and vice versa, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Just as a side note: Dr. Denise scares me. If she needs a pneumonic to recognize infection, she really, really, really doesn't know what she's doing. Moreover, you don't get rid of pus by drawing it out with a syringe like she did two episodes ago, and...well, I can go on. The writers need to get a doctor as a consultant. There are certain basic things you'd hope every doctor knows no matter what field they go into, but Denise doesn't seem to have mastered them.

Well. They gained and lost a viewer this season. I had never seen the show until last Spring. I began watching with the start of reruns through five season on the local station. Being fresh for season 6, I anticipated like every other fool for flesh this fall. Then they lost me about 2 weeks go. with the hoards of man-eaters heading to Alexandria. Too many frigging places I could hide I thought. The roof, the septic tank. up a tree or the pull down attic. About as believable as a peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwich. So now I am back to what is all the fuss about and looking once again for intelligence in television.