We tried to watch these two very exciting games, but alas, the frequency and length of commercials (even with the mute button) finally knocked us out of the box. The final blows were the three minimessages buried between outs in single innings. We all know what's going on here in the pro sport money grab, so with sadness, it's goodbye to our last commercial TV viewing (baseball) other than Jeopardy. No big woompf.
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Disappointing loss, especially after the Mets blew Game 1. And David, lighten up on the praise for Cueto. He was OK but he had control problems for much of the game. Met hitters let him off the hook by being too free swinging and not showing patience. His performance was more about them being bad hitters than him being a great pitcher.
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I agree - 5 days off is a lot in baseball. The 06 Tigers and 07 Rockies had a week off and lost in 5 and 4 games respectively. Plus, the Royals are relentless.
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There was an article earlier this week about the poor performance of teams that sweep the LCS. The layoff factor might contribute to it.
A subject that has not been addressed since Wright came back to the lineup: why does he throw sidearm to first base? Does he have a sore arm? If he threw to first in the 14th inning like Moustakas threw out Flores earlier , he might have nailed the runner. Mentioning Moustakas' throw. I don't think that it was 4 feet off the ground from foul territory to first base. What a gun.
I think that the Mets had too much time off. They lost their edge.
I think that the Mets had too much time off. They lost their edge.
What happened to the adage that good pitching trumps good hitting? Seems like that's true until it's not.
Why wasn't it true ?
In game 1, the league's best bullpen threw 8 innings of shutout baseball, and Cueto is a better pitcher than deGrom.
In game 1, the league's best bullpen threw 8 innings of shutout baseball, and Cueto is a better pitcher than deGrom.
As I told my friends who are MET fans, plenty of baseball left to be played, don't despair and R-E-L-A-X
From a Yankee Fan!
From a Yankee Fan!
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Wow
Kindness from a Yankee fan.
Thank you and I agree
The 86 Mets dropped the first 2
Once they're back in friendly rockin Citi Field, they'll get back to business
Kindness from a Yankee fan.
Thank you and I agree
The 86 Mets dropped the first 2
Once they're back in friendly rockin Citi Field, they'll get back to business
As a Royals fan, I have rejoiced in our wins. However, it's not over until it's over. The Mets have a great team and I have become a fan of players like Duda, Flores, Wright, Murphy, Harvey, and De Gromb. There is a long ways to go. May the best team win.
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So much for all the hype and all the predictions. It never seems to go according to script. Except, in this case, that the Royals just keep coming at you. And they make it look so easy. As opposed to the Mets, many of whom apparently never met a pitch bad enough that they can't resist flailing away at. Bad hitting, or great pitching? Probably a bit of both. Memo: you don't have to hit a 5-run homer every at-bat (yeah, I'm talking to you, Cespedes).
The Mets seem to have lost their mojo. Is it gone for good? We'll see, but time's running out quickly. Terry needs to read the writing on the wall and shake things up, egos be damned. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
The Mets seem to have lost their mojo. Is it gone for good? We'll see, but time's running out quickly. Terry needs to read the writing on the wall and shake things up, egos be damned. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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You Mets fans are getting a taste of what Cubs fans just went through. The Royals are the real deal. But no fear, both New York and Chicago teams will be great for years to come...
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No, really. It's the "Papelbon!" curse. Mets fans can't diss Bryce Harper and expect to win the World Series. Simple as that.
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I got nervous when some of the Mets appeared on a late night talk show last week. Shoulda waited until they win the World Series. I'm superstitious that way.
I'm worried but not panicky yet. It looked this bad in 1986, although I don't want to have to rely on another Game Six ending.
My biggest complaint is the awful Fox coverage of the game. Joe Buck isn't half the announcer his father was, and Reynolds and Verducci are just a couple of technocrats. All they talk about are technical details - 4-seam, 2-seam, release points, foot-plants - and uninteresting statistics gleaned from SQL queries of giant databases. The great announcers and color men talk about people. They tell baseball stories between pitches and talk about players past and present. Can you see Scully or Kiner or Mel Allen going through a tortuous super slo-mo analysis of the spin on every pitch? Fox's coverage is just plain boring. The best part of it was the 4-minute switchover to MLB during the power outage.
I'm worried but not panicky yet. It looked this bad in 1986, although I don't want to have to rely on another Game Six ending.
My biggest complaint is the awful Fox coverage of the game. Joe Buck isn't half the announcer his father was, and Reynolds and Verducci are just a couple of technocrats. All they talk about are technical details - 4-seam, 2-seam, release points, foot-plants - and uninteresting statistics gleaned from SQL queries of giant databases. The great announcers and color men talk about people. They tell baseball stories between pitches and talk about players past and present. Can you see Scully or Kiner or Mel Allen going through a tortuous super slo-mo analysis of the spin on every pitch? Fox's coverage is just plain boring. The best part of it was the 4-minute switchover to MLB during the power outage.
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I am having GREAT difficulty picking up the ball off the bat. I can't tell if they're foul balls, swinging strikes, popups or grounders.
And Fox came back from one commercial break last night, the first pitch having already been thrown. Several other times they have come back from breaks and the pitcher is starting his wind-up.
Ah ... good old capitalism. It has already damaged so much of post-season baseball (no afternoon games; freezing temperatures) what's a little more damage?
And Fox came back from one commercial break last night, the first pitch having already been thrown. Several other times they have come back from breaks and the pitcher is starting his wind-up.
Ah ... good old capitalism. It has already damaged so much of post-season baseball (no afternoon games; freezing temperatures) what's a little more damage?
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Every team occasionally loses in a blowout. 4 to 1; 7 to 1; it makes no difference. But the first game, a one-run loss, that was painful. The Mets should have taken that game. Things would look very different this morning if they had.
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The Royals aren't that good. They've got no star with even a faint hope of the Hall of Fame. No one hits much for power. No one averages .300. No one's in the running for the Cy Young or has ever been. And even their vaunted bullpen has blown a bunch of saves. Anyone who thinks those clowns have locked up the Series, haven't been following the Mets.
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So if "the Royals aren't that good" what does that make the 0-2 Mets?
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Apparently, nasty negative rhetoric from conservatives is not limited to politics. It must also apply to sports. Is conservatism a political movement or an "I hate everything" movement?
My friend, baseball is a team effort. It's the result of a collective. It's kind of like society. Some people think that society is best served by hyper individualism. Some think that a collective effort yields the best results all. The Royals operate as collective. Maybe there is a lesson here to be learned.
My friend, baseball is a team effort. It's the result of a collective. It's kind of like society. Some people think that society is best served by hyper individualism. Some think that a collective effort yields the best results all. The Royals operate as collective. Maybe there is a lesson here to be learned.
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Yeah right, ask the Mets whether they think the Royals are a bunch of clowns. As is true against every team they played this year, whether the Royals win or lose, they are the better team on the field, especially at home. It wasn't by luck that they led the American League in wins. That said, the Mets are deserving NL champs and you are correct that this series isn't over yet. Go Royals.
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Being down 0-2 in the Series is a big hole, but the Mets have done it before, the bats need to wake up of course, but you've got to tip your cap to the Royals. I've never seen a more balanced lineup - up and down the order - be so disciplined at the plate for the entire season. It's like facing 9 Daniel Murphy's without the power!
Being a Twins fan, I've seen a lot of Royals games this season and last and they never quit. Mets need to take a page from their book and attempt to do the same.
Ya gotta believe!!!
Being a Twins fan, I've seen a lot of Royals games this season and last and they never quit. Mets need to take a page from their book and attempt to do the same.
Ya gotta believe!!!
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I want the Mets to win the Series. Truly I do. I watched them all season. BUT for me the season is one huge success. The Mets took care of the Dodgers. The Dodgers went to the first playoff round and then no farther. Very sweet.
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Two black holes in the Mets lineup. Others will hit better without them.
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While history is clearly not on our side, I’m not ready to pack up shop just yet. That said, it might be time for some changes to the order starting with David Wright.
Let me preface my comments by saying I am by no means a Wright hater as he’s proven himself to be a terrific baseball player over the course of his career, and an all-around good guy time after time. The thing is, according to the newfangled metrics, your best hitter is supposed to be in the two hole because over the course of a season he gets more plate appearances, hopefully with runners in scoring position. The days of the scrappy second baseman who can hit behind the runner have gone the way of the dodo. If we accept this premise, then shouldn’t Murphy be hitting second?
It pains me to write this, but DW is now hitting just .192 with 1 HR, and 9 RBIs in 92 plate appearances over the course of his post season career. That’s just not good enough, especially for a guy who’s making $20mm/year. They need to either move him down in the order or he needs to pick it up. Sadly, whether because of the deterioration of his skills or the back injury (he noticeably flinched and pulled his glove back when he had to contort his body, and reach for a line drive down the line last night) I’m not sure if he is going to be able to turn it around. Still, he’s been a great Met and a good citizen, so there will always be a soft spot in our hearts for him, but that doesn’t change the fact that he needs to step it up.
Let me preface my comments by saying I am by no means a Wright hater as he’s proven himself to be a terrific baseball player over the course of his career, and an all-around good guy time after time. The thing is, according to the newfangled metrics, your best hitter is supposed to be in the two hole because over the course of a season he gets more plate appearances, hopefully with runners in scoring position. The days of the scrappy second baseman who can hit behind the runner have gone the way of the dodo. If we accept this premise, then shouldn’t Murphy be hitting second?
It pains me to write this, but DW is now hitting just .192 with 1 HR, and 9 RBIs in 92 plate appearances over the course of his post season career. That’s just not good enough, especially for a guy who’s making $20mm/year. They need to either move him down in the order or he needs to pick it up. Sadly, whether because of the deterioration of his skills or the back injury (he noticeably flinched and pulled his glove back when he had to contort his body, and reach for a line drive down the line last night) I’m not sure if he is going to be able to turn it around. Still, he’s been a great Met and a good citizen, so there will always be a soft spot in our hearts for him, but that doesn’t change the fact that he needs to step it up.
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Good points
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Very intelligent and well written post.
That being said, the scrappy second baseman batting behind the runner isn't quite extinct.
1. Escobar
2. Zobrist
Seems like that formula is working just fine in KC, but then again, they're all pretty scrappy.
Respect to the Mets, but go Royals!
That being said, the scrappy second baseman batting behind the runner isn't quite extinct.
1. Escobar
2. Zobrist
Seems like that formula is working just fine in KC, but then again, they're all pretty scrappy.
Respect to the Mets, but go Royals!
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Fair enough, but you must admit, that the Mets are not looking to use DW in the "traditional" second hitter role.
Anyway, heck of a team you got there. Relentless. But, we aren't going to go down without a fight.
(Off topic: can you send me some BBQ?)
Anyway, heck of a team you got there. Relentless. But, we aren't going to go down without a fight.
(Off topic: can you send me some BBQ?)
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There was a feeling (or narrative) after Game 1 that it was more or less a draw that the Royals won by pure emotion. Reset the stage for Game 2 where the Royals would face the ace deGrom. (Jacob deGrom is my favorite Met - he's a hard worker and talented.) Enter Game 3. Excited to see what happens next.
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The Royals got hot at the right time, just like the Mets did against the Cubs. Ventura is our ace, so Friday night should be fun.
Royals in 5, maybe 6.
Royals in 5, maybe 6.
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Ever since Cespedes got hit by a pitch he has not been the same in the batter's box. He looks completely lost. But he is needed for his defense. Needs to be moved to Left and perhaps sixth in the order.
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I agree. And the pitch he was hit w wasn't especially hard, or high. Very bizarre.
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Boy, they looked impotent last night, in every respect.
Big rebound needed or the party is over this weekend. No need to go
back to KC.
Big rebound needed or the party is over this weekend. No need to go
back to KC.
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Baseball is a game of momentum which the Mets had in great supply during the National League playoffs. They ran into two pitchers who turned in very solid and focused performances. But as the old adage goes you're only as good as tomorrow's starter and with one win the momentum can shift back to the Mets. Remember too K.C. has been here before and with the exception of Juan Uribe, the Mets have not. The team is certainly gaining valuable experience. The Royals used last year's Series loss as an inspiration all year long. While the Mets offense has looked anemic these past two games it was the best in the NL for the second half of the season perhaps it will come back at Citi Field.
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Granderson has also been in it.
Interesting statistic:
"Of the 53 teams that have jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the World Series, 42 have gone on to win. Two of the clubs that defied the trend, coincidentally, were the 1985 Royals and the 1986 Mets."
"Of the 53 teams that have jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the World Series, 42 have gone on to win. Two of the clubs that defied the trend, coincidentally, were the 1985 Royals and the 1986 Mets."
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Alderson just announced irrevocable waivers on Harvey, deGrom and Familia. Darling being brought down from the SNY/TBS booth, Seaver being flown in from Napa and wherever the hell Orosco is, a posse has been formed. The Mets bat rack is being sprayed by Terminex and Immigatrion is checking on Cespedes' status for askinf for asylum under the false pretense of being a "Big Time World Series Force". B.T.W., as a New Breed Charter Member the '62-63 Mets would do, at least, as well. Polo Grounds Forever !!!
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If it's true that good pitching beats good hitting, perhaps in Game 2 it also was true that good pitching does not beat GREAT hitting. As a native NY-er Yankee fan, who roots for the Mets in the National League, I simply felt that the Mets were outclassed last night by one of the most overall excellent teams I ever have had the pleasure to watch--even as my hometown team was losing.
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Wow! The Royals are hot. They can hit anything!
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Last time I checked - this is the NEW YORK Times. How about a little faith and support for our home town team! What is with all the Royals fans coming out of the woodwork on this site?!
It's not over yet.
LETS GO METS!
It's not over yet.
LETS GO METS!
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Our flyover country fifteen bucks are just as good as your big city bucks when subscribing to the NYT on-line. Go ROYALS !!!
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The New York Times is a national newspaper.
You're right: It's not over yet.
You're right: It's not over yet.
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You couldn't be more wrong. Everyone knows there's nothing between the Hudson and the Pacific, says the guy from Jersey. Go Mets!
As a Queens, New Yorker, our flags are raised at half-mast today.
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Why? It's not over yet. A Met victory tomorrow evening changes the complexion of the entire series.
When Baltimore beat the Mets 4-1 in Game 1 in 1969, things appeared bleak.
When Boston beat the Mets 1-0 and 9-3 in the first two games in 1986 - both in New York - things appeared even bleaker.
Anything can happen in sports. The Mets may very well not come back, but at this point, Kansas City has won nothing.
Keep the faith.
When Baltimore beat the Mets 4-1 in Game 1 in 1969, things appeared bleak.
When Boston beat the Mets 1-0 and 9-3 in the first two games in 1986 - both in New York - things appeared even bleaker.
Anything can happen in sports. The Mets may very well not come back, but at this point, Kansas City has won nothing.
Keep the faith.
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The biggest problem is the Mets hitting, which was atrocious in game two and throughout the extra innings in game 1. Mets fans know and fear this version of the lineup -- impatient, undisciplined, and lifeless. They can make 5th starters with 6.00 ERAs look like aces. If this lineup keeps showing up the series ends in NY.
One move that absolutely HAS to be made is pushing David Wright down to 6th or 7th in the order, and probably just moving Murphy through d'Arnaud up one slot each. With all due respect to Wright, a warrior for sure, he is getting good pitches to hit (because he is in front of Murphy) and he cannot seem to handle them. Foul balls at best, and very rarely driving the ball. His body is injured, tired and stressed -- he can't even throw normally -- and it's managerial malpractice to put him in such a crucial spot in the batting order simply because of what he can do when he's healthy (or maybe once could do -- not sure). Perhaps having him lower in the order will take some of the pressure off, and he'll thrive, who knows. But posting the same nightly lineup with an injured player in the #2 spot is a bitter pill to swallow. Are we trying to win this, or make a vetean feel respected?
This isn't to lay the entire blame on Wright. Someone needs to work with Duda and Cespedes to lay off the low/high stuff respectively, and help snap Conforto and d'Arnaud out of their slumps, but moving Wright down is a no-brainer to me.
One move that absolutely HAS to be made is pushing David Wright down to 6th or 7th in the order, and probably just moving Murphy through d'Arnaud up one slot each. With all due respect to Wright, a warrior for sure, he is getting good pitches to hit (because he is in front of Murphy) and he cannot seem to handle them. Foul balls at best, and very rarely driving the ball. His body is injured, tired and stressed -- he can't even throw normally -- and it's managerial malpractice to put him in such a crucial spot in the batting order simply because of what he can do when he's healthy (or maybe once could do -- not sure). Perhaps having him lower in the order will take some of the pressure off, and he'll thrive, who knows. But posting the same nightly lineup with an injured player in the #2 spot is a bitter pill to swallow. Are we trying to win this, or make a vetean feel respected?
This isn't to lay the entire blame on Wright. Someone needs to work with Duda and Cespedes to lay off the low/high stuff respectively, and help snap Conforto and d'Arnaud out of their slumps, but moving Wright down is a no-brainer to me.
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You are correct. Cueto is simply not as good of a pitcher as he was last night. The Mets hitters are just not getting it done.
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Couldn't agree with you more. Wright isn't the player he once was (and arguably hasn't been for several years now). So what if he's the "captain"? If anything, as the de facto leader of the team, he should face reality, put his ego aside, and insist that Collins move him down.
As far as the rest of the team, they could all take a page out of the Royals' playbook. Just shows you it's not necessary to hit a 5-run homer every time you come to the plate (yeah, I'm talking to you, Cespedes). KC looked like they were taking batting practice in the 5th. Even the outs were hard hit.
Watching last night's game, I was having visions of what 2016 is going to look like, when Cespedes, and maybe Murphy, are gone, and the magic of the last three months has inevitably faded. In the meantime, it might not be quite over, but it's looking pretty bleak. Unless, of course, you're a Royals fan.
As far as the rest of the team, they could all take a page out of the Royals' playbook. Just shows you it's not necessary to hit a 5-run homer every time you come to the plate (yeah, I'm talking to you, Cespedes). KC looked like they were taking batting practice in the 5th. Even the outs were hard hit.
Watching last night's game, I was having visions of what 2016 is going to look like, when Cespedes, and maybe Murphy, are gone, and the magic of the last three months has inevitably faded. In the meantime, it might not be quite over, but it's looking pretty bleak. Unless, of course, you're a Royals fan.
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The Royals' approach to hitting is almost always this: Swing if it's a fastball and lay off if it's a breaking ball. You're never fooled by a breaking ball because you weren't looking for it in the first place and breaking balls are harder to throw for strikes so they're more likely to end up a ball. It simplifies hitting because you're not guessing. You're not chasing breaking balls down and out of the strike zone because you're not swinging at breaking balls. You're not going to throw a fastball past them because they're always looking for it. It really simplifies hitting and it's really tough on the hard-throwing Mets pitchers.
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Syndergaard is set to go in game 3. He'll be working on 11 days rest, he has never pitched against the Royals, and he's the youngest guy on the staff. This is a must win situation that should not be left to a rookie. Colon is ready to go. He's pitched against the Royals for most of his career. And he is a wily veteran. Guys in their early 20's never win a Wold Series MVP. Older guys in the twilights of their careers win it repeatedly. Think Kirk Gibson and Mike Lowell, unable to run. Think Kurt Schillimg, bleeding as he pitched. Think Edgar Renteria, closing out a 16-year career. And think Hideki Matsui, age 35. If I'm in a must win situation, I hand the ball to the guy who has been there dozens of times. If worse comes to worse, I can bring the rookie in in relief. But I don;t expect that to be necessary.
I'm unsure if I completely agree with changing out the pitchers. He did pitch against the Royals for much of his career but it was against a different Royals team. But I do have to admit, I really enjoy Colon and his unshakable demeanor. He performed very well in game 1. We'll see how it goes.
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I'm thinking of one young pitcher who did win the World Series MVP: 21-year-old Bret Saberhagen of the 1985 Kansas City Royals.
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The Giants were up on the Royals 3-2 in last year's series and in game 6 in KC they got clobbered by the Royals 10-0.
How many people posting here would have given the Giants a chance in game 7 in KC?
SF Giants, World Champions.
When the Mets tie this series on Saturday, the pressure on the Royals will be telling. They can't bear the thought of losing two years in a row. It is they who will feel the psych, they who have the most to lose.
Yogi is looking down and reminding us… you know what I mean.
How many people posting here would have given the Giants a chance in game 7 in KC?
SF Giants, World Champions.
When the Mets tie this series on Saturday, the pressure on the Royals will be telling. They can't bear the thought of losing two years in a row. It is they who will feel the psych, they who have the most to lose.
Yogi is looking down and reminding us… you know what I mean.
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KC's pitcher #47, pointing towards his god, says it all: the bad guys have won this series.
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Huh?
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The Mets played so well in the NLDS and NLCS and I was quietly optimistic for the Worls Series. Looks like I was deluding myself as Kansas just have way too much offense. I don't think you can stop them scoring, the only way to beat them being outscoring them. Whilst the Mets batters are way better than June/July, they're not good enough I think. I hope I'm wrong and it turns around, but lloks like Kansas' title
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Please don't get confused The Royals are in Kansas city Mo. Not Kansas!
Now where do the mets play is it in Paramus?
Now where do the mets play is it in Paramus?
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The Royals have lots of Kansas fans, but they are a Missouri team. There is a Kansas City, KS, but Kansas City, Missouri is the larger of the two cities.
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I think you need a little lesson in geography, It's Kansas City and the Royals play in Kansas City, MISSOURI. So that would be a Missouri title. You're welcome.
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The Republican debate was a huge loser and having this interesting game running beside it gave watchers a wonderful place to turn to for escape.
Both teams are fighters and both teams deserve to be in the Series.
Both teams are fighters and both teams deserve to be in the Series.
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The Royals had scouts follow the Blue Jays for he last 6 weeks of the regular season. What did they pick up, this we know, David Price was tipping his changeup, when he was going home and not to first. The scouts were ex major league journeymen pitchers and adept at picking up small nuances of opposing pitchers. They didn't seem to be fooled by deGroms's pitches after the first couple of innings. Maybe the KC scouts did pick up something on the deGrom.
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It is too bad we are starting to see individuals posting to comment on each other instead of comments on the story/events for the list in general -- the absence of such arguments is something that has made the NYTimes comment postings so good and that has distinguished it from so many other sites that degenerate into name calling.
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Mets fan here. Royals are the better team, pure and simple.
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Let's Go Mets !!! Mets in six !!! Quit whining, and even if it ends here it was an awesome season, and they are still the kings of Queens, NYC, and the National league , LETS GO METS !!!
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As the old saying goes, "Balance is everything in life." Since the outset of the Royals' post-season play, it was obvious they have it all...pitching, hitting and fielding. Balance wins.
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But usually they don't have it all...Their starting pitching isn't typically this good. Just look at Cueto's numbers from this season and the postseason. He's not as good of a pitcher as he was yesterday. The Mets just didn't step up to the plate (pun intended).
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New Yawk is in trouble.
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Is that what y'all think? Well bless my heart, we'll have to wait & see I guess.
LET'S GO METS!!!
LET'S GO METS!!!
They were in a worse situation in 1986, down 0-2 and going to Boston for the next three games. At least they are coming home this year so don't throw in the towel yet. Let's go Mets!
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They don't have the personality of that '86 team.
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They sure don't. What a cast of characters -- NOT the "character" the Isles always insist they just drafted. And interestingly enough, the great Isles teams were a bunch of characters too. Fighting every shift, for one another.
What great luck it was as an Isles/Mets fan, to switch over from the Isles winning Cups, to the Mets of 84-87.
What great luck it was as an Isles/Mets fan, to switch over from the Isles winning Cups, to the Mets of 84-87.
If Cespedes can wake up, things will be different.
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Go Royals! Go for the broom!
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So so very happy for my home-town team in the city area of my youth. More so because, last year, they lost to my now long time adopted home-town team. Great, just great!!!
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I don't think I could have taken the stress of another extra innings game. The Mets pitchers were making good pitches but the Royals batters refused to strike out. I don't know how so many batters can consistently make contact with 95+ MPH fastballs, but they all did. They must have zoom lenses in their contacts.
That's the way the Royals keep wining. They are very aggressive at the plate. They keep swinging the bat. It's death by a thousand cuts. They take chances and it pays off. I like it that manager Ned Yost lets them play and does not micro manage. He lets them make their own decisions at the plate and on the bases. So far, that has proved to be a winning strategy. Let's see what happens Friday in New York.
That's the way the Royals keep wining. They are very aggressive at the plate. They keep swinging the bat. It's death by a thousand cuts. They take chances and it pays off. I like it that manager Ned Yost lets them play and does not micro manage. He lets them make their own decisions at the plate and on the bases. So far, that has proved to be a winning strategy. Let's see what happens Friday in New York.
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duda is the black hole right now. David Wright is playing defense like the all star that he is. Cespidis is hurt but his defense is sensational. The Mets came from nowhere this year. Whatever happens they are still "Champs" to me.
It's almost like the Mets should just forfeit the next two games and be done with it, so awful was their performance in game 2, across the board. Bad pitching, bad fielding, bad hitting. As with so many Mets teams of the past, they seem to crack when things get serious and real. It's why I stopped following them years ago. They're just not a clutch ball club.
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"kovie," You weren't much of a fan to begin with. "They're just not a clutch ball club"? You mean you actually think it's the same team--the same people--as it was "years ago"? The Mets have a great team this year, with great fans, a great park, and a great tradition. They are the National League Champions. The best in the National League. I'm a life-long Cardinals fan, I bleed Cardinals Red, and I'm still a Cardinals fan. But I'm a National League fan, and I'm rooting for the Mets. I don't believe they should "forfeit" anything.
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Funny how a non-clutch team won game 5 of the series against the Dodgers when everything was on the line and then dominated the Cubs. Teams has come back from 2-0 a good number of times. I would never count the Mets out.
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"they seem to crack when things get serious and real. It's why I stopped following them years ago."
Kovie, real fans don't stop following their team when the team hits a little trouble. That's particularly true of real Mets fans.
Win or lose the WS, the Mets are there. They're the NL champions and they gave us a terrific year that was a lot of fun to watch. If you missed them this year, it's your loss.
Kovie, real fans don't stop following their team when the team hits a little trouble. That's particularly true of real Mets fans.
Win or lose the WS, the Mets are there. They're the NL champions and they gave us a terrific year that was a lot of fun to watch. If you missed them this year, it's your loss.
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The first game was painful, this game was embarrassing. The Mets looked overmatched and played with little energy and enthusiasm. This series is on the verge of being over. We even switched channels to watch a few moments of the republican debate at times because the game was too painful to watch. Mets' weaknesses at the plate are becoming all too obvious in this series against a solid but far from great Royals team. The front office will need to carefully assess current roster and take some hard decisions in the off season.
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This is a little more about the Royals being good than the Mets being bad.
They were one swing away from winning the WS last year, and are better this year than last.
Remember, the Mets wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they were in the NL Central. They ( Murph ) got hot against the Cubs, but they are and were a 90 win team.
And despite all that, this series was almost 1-1. They probably won't win more than a game this series, but all in all not bad.
I just hope all that minor league pitching they traded away doesn't come back to haunt them.
They were one swing away from winning the WS last year, and are better this year than last.
Remember, the Mets wouldn't have even made the playoffs if they were in the NL Central. They ( Murph ) got hot against the Cubs, but they are and were a 90 win team.
And despite all that, this series was almost 1-1. They probably won't win more than a game this series, but all in all not bad.
I just hope all that minor league pitching they traded away doesn't come back to haunt them.
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If the Royals are "far from great", what does that make the Mets?
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I would hardly go into panic mode about the roster as the result of one game. Every team, no matter how talented, goes through games like this. And this team won the 2 previous playoff series and totally dominated the Cubs.
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Guess the Mets batters found Cub pitching more to their liking.
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Congrats to Kansas City for two wins and for the solid showing tonight! Well played.
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Go Royals!!
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