Xi's visit should be an opportuniy for the United States and China to sort out their problems. Anyway, we need a peaceful and prosperous world, which can't be seen if the two biggest powers are in conflict with each other. Besides, I think the Chinese are reasonable, and we can talk with them.
It would really help if NYTimes's reporters can get their facts straight. The suit Xi wore is called a Zhongshan Suit, improperly called Mao Suit by NYTimes I guess since the 50s'. The suit is designed by the founder of modern/republic China, Dr. Sun Yat-Sen, and is based on Chinese ideal of good governance. The four front pockets represent the four classic virtues and the five buttons the five branches of the republic. Both side of the Chinese civil war wore this suit. Instead of making it a mark of imperial presidency, Xi is actually projecting a different image.
Another thing. If the Chinese economy is strong, NYTimes will say Xi is here to show off press and won't compromise. As the economy is weak, NYTimes is saying Xi is here to demonstrate he is still the head honcho and won't compromise. Apparently NYTimes already decided Xi cannot compromise.
Another thing. If the Chinese economy is strong, NYTimes will say Xi is here to show off press and won't compromise. As the economy is weak, NYTimes is saying Xi is here to demonstrate he is still the head honcho and won't compromise. Apparently NYTimes already decided Xi cannot compromise.
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China has proven that it is an economic powerhouse. Now it looks like they want to prove its military prowess,as well Their involvement in the South China Sea does not bode well for the world, economically or militaristically.
The visit of the Chinese president has created such a chaos in Seattle. Worst than when president Obama visits. It is ridiculous that this guy is coming with demands how the city needs to be paralyzed, and to put demands to American companies and public to have business in China. The arrogance and paranoia of this guys blows my mind.
Why all people of Seattle and the region needs to suffer because he demands certain level of security and closures. If he wants to be a real leader he needs to learn to do thinks in an open mind and democracy respectful approach. Tired of China hypocrisy, bullishness and lack of respect to the world. I do not care how many people live there, the reality is that the clamp down never will allow business in a real capitalistic open competitiveness. You wonder why people is trying to leave China.
Why all people of Seattle and the region needs to suffer because he demands certain level of security and closures. If he wants to be a real leader he needs to learn to do thinks in an open mind and democracy respectful approach. Tired of China hypocrisy, bullishness and lack of respect to the world. I do not care how many people live there, the reality is that the clamp down never will allow business in a real capitalistic open competitiveness. You wonder why people is trying to leave China.
I certainly hope that Mitch McConnell buttonholes President Xi when he speaks to Congress and demands that China stop it's War on Coal!
China uses more coal than all other countries in the world combined. So, McConnell shouldn't accept lame excuses from Xi for not buying coal from Kentucky like - the bottom has dropped out of the Chinese economy, or China is closing many of its own coal mines due to lack of demand.
But McConnell has an ace in the hole. He threatened all of the countries supporting the Iran Nuclear Agreement that a Republican President might overturn it. Using the same tactic, he could tell Xi that the U.S. might not repay its $1 Trillion + debt if China goes through with Xi's promise to shut enough coal-powered electric generating plants in China to offset the pollution from the entire electric power generation capacity (coal, oil and gas) of the U.S.
Problem is, China is one of those countries McConnell threatened over the Iran Nuclear Agreement and Xi still supports the Agreement.
Maybe McConnell should have taken a dive when Allison Lundergan Grimes had him on the ropes in his recent re-election campaign because his Persona just wasn't cutting it. Instead of kissing the canvas, he called in the big money to crush her.
China uses more coal than all other countries in the world combined. So, McConnell shouldn't accept lame excuses from Xi for not buying coal from Kentucky like - the bottom has dropped out of the Chinese economy, or China is closing many of its own coal mines due to lack of demand.
But McConnell has an ace in the hole. He threatened all of the countries supporting the Iran Nuclear Agreement that a Republican President might overturn it. Using the same tactic, he could tell Xi that the U.S. might not repay its $1 Trillion + debt if China goes through with Xi's promise to shut enough coal-powered electric generating plants in China to offset the pollution from the entire electric power generation capacity (coal, oil and gas) of the U.S.
Problem is, China is one of those countries McConnell threatened over the Iran Nuclear Agreement and Xi still supports the Agreement.
Maybe McConnell should have taken a dive when Allison Lundergan Grimes had him on the ropes in his recent re-election campaign because his Persona just wasn't cutting it. Instead of kissing the canvas, he called in the big money to crush her.
"Princely"? How un-Communist can you get. They killed all their aristos, artists, intellectuals in the revolution….now it looks like a new version of the same old class structure without the benefit of great poetry, art & intellectual freedom. The Chinese are lousy Communists…where is their respect for the proletariat and the profit sharing? I see exploitation of labor, plus outrageous greed & corruption by this so called "princely" class….when did Communists approve of having an upper class? Words have meaning and the Chinese are simply not real Communists.
In some ways, the Chinese system of government, and the U.S. system of government mirror each other, each with a handful of powerful people in charge at the top of their respective systems, giant, multi-national corporations as the centerpieces of their respective industries, and each country worshiping at the alter of the church of the Almighty U.S. dollar sign.
But, where they are different in very important ways, are at the bottoms of their societies. In America, it is possible for a person of any background, even a foreigner, to start a company, build it from the ground up, and become wealthy. This is still possible in America. It is not in China. That difference, and in other ways, such as in the freedom of its citizens to worship a God of their choosing, makes all the difference in the world. People in other parts of the world don't dream about emigrating to China. They still DO dream about emigrating to America.
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As a Chinese, an ambitious, young, brainwashing-free man, I could feel the deteriorating situation all the time. The censorship of Internet for the purpose of politics is vexing the young generation who are itching for the openness, freedom and democracy. In such a country where we are endangered and even end up in ‘disappearance” if we expressed what we want to say, we are daydreaming for the prosperity and National rejuvenation, which is officially called ‘China Dream’, while we are experiencing the nightmare of the whitewashed corruption, poverty, abuse of power and the notorious censorship. We have to embrace the dual personality to make a decent living in China. We feel discomforted by the leader of the country who cannot represent us but can easily manipulate our destiny. For Xi’s visit to US, we don’t expect too much, because it is very easy to imagine what kind of propaganda and boast will overwhelm us in Chinese media in the next few days.
Anyway, it is a shame.
Anyway, it is a shame.
If you are an American, and if that means anything to you, you should check your purchases carefully and never (yes, even if it's cheaper) buy Chinese.
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In dealing with China, US must stand firm. They are using their economic power to bully the whole world. From Asian Pacific islands military built up, bullying their neighbors at the same time saying "peaceful coexistence". We need to enrage China to educate their government bad deed will not go unpunished.
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How much profit is worth selling your soul to the devil? This is what the West has foolishly done with China. Hopefully there is still time for us to take our lumps for this stupidity and disconnect from this one way street masquerading as trade. I strongly choose democracy over a world dominated by the People's Republic of China.
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Americans are understandably upset and frustrated about China's economic rise and US decline for quite some time. The visit of President Xi Jinping, during a heated GOP primary, just reminds Americans of that bitter reality.
To add insult to injury, China's rise is being propelled by America's political and business systems. American corporations -- seeking profit maximization and global market share -- became China's main engine of growth and modernization during the last three decades.
It took a hundred years plus, a civil war and two global wars for a vibrant middle class be created in America. China's political leadership is achieving the same goal in a few decades.
The 2016 presidential election presents an excellent opportunity for the Republican and Democrat candidates to debate China. At the GOP primary debates, no Republican candidate has presented a smart idea to deal with China's challenges and opportunities.
Des inviting President Xi jinping to the traditional White House state dinner does not seem to be a clever strategy by politicians presiding over the only military superpower in the world.
To add insult to injury, China's rise is being propelled by America's political and business systems. American corporations -- seeking profit maximization and global market share -- became China's main engine of growth and modernization during the last three decades.
It took a hundred years plus, a civil war and two global wars for a vibrant middle class be created in America. China's political leadership is achieving the same goal in a few decades.
The 2016 presidential election presents an excellent opportunity for the Republican and Democrat candidates to debate China. At the GOP primary debates, no Republican candidate has presented a smart idea to deal with China's challenges and opportunities.
Des inviting President Xi jinping to the traditional White House state dinner does not seem to be a clever strategy by politicians presiding over the only military superpower in the world.
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Let's see if Chairman Xi wears his Mao suit when he meets the President. Talk about an admission of weakness -- trying to associate himself with the totalitarian dictator behind the countless deaths of the pointless Cultural Revolution.
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There are several fronts here - cyberwarfare to steal intellectual property; identity theft on American civilians and military; cyberespionage for purposes of gaining vital defense information or to destroy infrastructures; economic warfare on businesses and government who now have to spent to secure networks and investigate hacking abuses - all-in-all China is not coming across smelling like roses - as a matter of fact I smell a RAT -
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Amazing short memory of the American public; does NSA ring a bell? Beijing remembers.
Wouldn't it be magical and wonder-full if Xi Jinping and Pope Francis could meet on the neutral turf of President Obama's Oval Office while both men - world leaders, one religious, one not - from antipodean China and Rome are in town? A lame duck is still a very fine duck!
Chris Buckley and Jane Perlez are careful observers of Chinese happenings but one wonders if editorial policy doesn’t override some of their observations. Yes the economy has slowed as expected with development and the weakness of the export market that China is still very dependent on but trade between China and the U.S. has grown from $2 billion in 1979 to $592 billion last year and it is Japan that holds the largest share of American debt now. Our relations with China should be seen as health and mutually beneficial.
The military growth of China is not unexpected given the longstanding concern of American encirclement they are well aware of, most recently polished by Obama movement of troops to Australia and support for the remilitarization of Japan with joint American-Japanese exercises, same with the Philippians. Cause and effect cuts both ways.
Can we ever expect a president capable of seeing the second largest, most likely soon first largest, economy as one to pursue cooperatively?
The military growth of China is not unexpected given the longstanding concern of American encirclement they are well aware of, most recently polished by Obama movement of troops to Australia and support for the remilitarization of Japan with joint American-Japanese exercises, same with the Philippians. Cause and effect cuts both ways.
Can we ever expect a president capable of seeing the second largest, most likely soon first largest, economy as one to pursue cooperatively?
China economy might have come down a notch or two since Deng Xiaoping set the country off the path toward capitalism. Surely Beijing likes to tout their track record of having their own branded version of capitalism, with a socialist twist, and they do deserve credits for steering the country through huge economic upheaval, lifting hundreds of millions of its denizens from poverty, all of which akin to changing the wing while the airplane is aflight, and for all those, they did that pretty much non-stop for more than three decades. It's quite a feat, truth be told.
But those thirty odd years of impressive economic growth were low-hanging fruit. It's essentially the same path of industrial revolution that western countries have taken over many years, that provides the blueprint for China to follow. But from here on out, things won't be that simple, nor easy.
For the most part, China has put itself on almost equal footing as the west, starting with manufacturing. China has won the manufacturing war, and becomes factory-for-the-world. Going upmarket is hardly an easy or assured path. How to force-fed creativity and innovation into its students accustomed to memorization, one has to ask? Or to grow a market when government still retains absolute control? The stockmarket rout last month is evidence that Beijing can't have the cake and eat it too. An economy driven by markets is a two-edged sword.
China has the advantage of huge reserve, but how long can it last?
But those thirty odd years of impressive economic growth were low-hanging fruit. It's essentially the same path of industrial revolution that western countries have taken over many years, that provides the blueprint for China to follow. But from here on out, things won't be that simple, nor easy.
For the most part, China has put itself on almost equal footing as the west, starting with manufacturing. China has won the manufacturing war, and becomes factory-for-the-world. Going upmarket is hardly an easy or assured path. How to force-fed creativity and innovation into its students accustomed to memorization, one has to ask? Or to grow a market when government still retains absolute control? The stockmarket rout last month is evidence that Beijing can't have the cake and eat it too. An economy driven by markets is a two-edged sword.
China has the advantage of huge reserve, but how long can it last?
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The New York Times reporters for the Far East are the best writers (and videographers) on the planet. Great social thinkers are accorded high admiration. Scientists like Einstein are enshrined into the culture, but the value of reporters goes underappreciated by society. Reporter take their minds to the front lines of life and report back. They sometimes pay the price for carrying the burden of truth. This video and article on Xi Jinping’s visit is fascinating and clear. Thank you Johan Kessel for a video that presents the Times’ line up (Philip P. Pan, Edward Wong, Chris Buckley, Didi Kirsten Tatlow, and Jane Pelez). China is a determinate in world affairs. We need the Chinese people to help address a global environmental crises, to curtail massacres, to take in immigrants, and to end unrelenting discrimination that sets one group against another. These are the peoples’ positions that will not change.
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President Xi's fist visit to the US was as a teenager when he visited a family in Iowa as part of a Sister Cities International exchange. It began his lifelong interest in the U.S. On this trip, he will visit Tacoma, Washington, also as a Sister City. Please see story below.
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/politics-government/article3545...
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/politics-government/article3545...
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The idea that once China's middle class reaches to an affluent lifestyle they will want freedom and democracy is totally false. I see absolutely no evidence of that. Quite to the contrary, people are becoming more materialistic, especially when there is not much spiritual life and religious freedom. If anything, the last 30 years of economic growth has boldened the communist party's claim of political legitimacy and gained more support from Chinese citizens. So don't hold your breath - China will not be a democracy in the foreseeable future.
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Of course China will not change into a democracy. It is using Communist Party as its governing body. If you read the Chinese history of the past centuries, you will understand why it's Government chose Communism.
Xi Jinping is NOT the "president" of China.
China has no "president" because China is a dictatorship ruled by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, which seized power in 1949.
China has never held free and fair democratic elections of any kind.
Xi Jinping is the Chairman of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.
And yet most Americans, thanks to the U.S. news media, don't even know ANY of this.
China has no "president" because China is a dictatorship ruled by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, which seized power in 1949.
China has never held free and fair democratic elections of any kind.
Xi Jinping is the Chairman of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party.
And yet most Americans, thanks to the U.S. news media, don't even know ANY of this.
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A more assertive Xi Jinping is encouraged by Obama and USA's vague policy stands in response to China bullying in South China Sea, cyberattack, and human right abuse. The only way to stop a bully is to stand up to the bully. Sign a peace accord in cyberwarfare in like signing a treaty not to nuke Mars. This soft stance can only encourage more bullying behavior from Xi Jinping in the future. If this is the best USA can do, then Xi Jinping would gain tremendous power. He can claim "Xi has stared down the USA." This has never been done, not even Chairman Mao.
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Long before Xi coming for a state visit, Obama and his advisers should have come to Vietnam and ask the Vietnamese how to deal with the Chinese.
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The day he arrives in the US, Skype has a massive blowup of their systems today, Rackspace had servers go down across the board, and many other computer systems that never go down, went down.... Odd how hacking is a topic
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I thought it is Amazon's hosting service that went down and caused to much of the disruptions.
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Do a little research outside the American Propaganda Machine's reality distortion field. China owns an incredible amount of US property, very nice US property. They are incredibly smart people and not prone to just throw away trillions of dollars just to make a point. America is under much more danger from its own politicians and their mass terror military than we are from the Chinese government, who owns the big shopping mall down the street. Chinese wealth comes from selling Americans everything. Your homes are full of it! What are they gonna do, attack the USA and end the cash flow that's feeding their people, keeping them in power and making them filthy rich? How stupid do our elites think we are? Pretty stupid....
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The U.S. cyber attacked Iranian centrifuges. This vulnerability likely played into forcing Iran to the negotiating table.
Given the impunity of Chinese cyber warfare, why doesn't the U.S. attack back. Bringing all electronics in China to a sudden stop would certainly convince the dictatorship to change its ways.
Given the impunity of Chinese cyber warfare, why doesn't the U.S. attack back. Bringing all electronics in China to a sudden stop would certainly convince the dictatorship to change its ways.
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President Xi Jinping exercises virtual control of 1.35 billion Chinese. Pope Francis administers the souls of 1.25 billion Catholics.
They share a faith in men and myth.
They share a faith in men and myth.
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Chinese government is a nightmarish Orwellian state. To make matters worst, “Xi is obsessed with strategic rivalry with the United States,” said Shi Yinhong, a professor of international relations at Renmin University in Beijing.
To make matters even worst for us, Mr. Obama has an almost pathological need to "bridge the divide" with enemies and make policy from a wishy-washy middle ground. As Obama critic Cornel West correctly observed, the wishy-washy “middle ground is not the place to go if you’re going to show courage and vision. And I think that’s [Obama]’s M.O."
Unfortunately for us, that personal trait likely gave the Chinese government the courage to harm the United States by (i) building military bases in the South China Sea, (ii) to carry out an unrelenting campaign of intellectual property theft and espionage on an unprecedented scale and (iii) steal 22 million security dossiers from the Office of Personnel Management, which contained detailed information on all the federal employees with "Top Secret" clearance? (The OPM hack must hold the world record for blowing the cover of more Top Secret federal employees than any other hack job).
Mr. President, people act to harm you only when they think they can get away with it.
For all of us, please do what's uncomfortable for you - tell Mr. Xi to expect severe consequences for any further harm to the United States and then make sure you follow through with that promise.
To make matters even worst for us, Mr. Obama has an almost pathological need to "bridge the divide" with enemies and make policy from a wishy-washy middle ground. As Obama critic Cornel West correctly observed, the wishy-washy “middle ground is not the place to go if you’re going to show courage and vision. And I think that’s [Obama]’s M.O."
Unfortunately for us, that personal trait likely gave the Chinese government the courage to harm the United States by (i) building military bases in the South China Sea, (ii) to carry out an unrelenting campaign of intellectual property theft and espionage on an unprecedented scale and (iii) steal 22 million security dossiers from the Office of Personnel Management, which contained detailed information on all the federal employees with "Top Secret" clearance? (The OPM hack must hold the world record for blowing the cover of more Top Secret federal employees than any other hack job).
Mr. President, people act to harm you only when they think they can get away with it.
For all of us, please do what's uncomfortable for you - tell Mr. Xi to expect severe consequences for any further harm to the United States and then make sure you follow through with that promise.
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In the year 2015 every nation is vulnerable.
If one wants to understand China consider the Korean War. Mao's China had not recovered from a Japanese occupation, nor a civil war with Chiang Kai-shek's corrupt old guard. The 19th century had decimated China. "Third World" probably was not a sufficiently denigrating term to describe China.
But, Mao went to war with the most powerful nation on earth. Why? Because Mao felt America's move in Korea encroached on China's sovereignty. And when America threatened China with nuclear war Mao shrugged his shoulders.
The real current issue is China's designs on the South China Sea. Does China see America's global presence as an encroachment?
America has done so well playing geopolitical poker in the Middle East that she should have no problem figuring out Japan and South Korea, right? And, keep in mind--China doesn't bluff.
If one wants to understand China consider the Korean War. Mao's China had not recovered from a Japanese occupation, nor a civil war with Chiang Kai-shek's corrupt old guard. The 19th century had decimated China. "Third World" probably was not a sufficiently denigrating term to describe China.
But, Mao went to war with the most powerful nation on earth. Why? Because Mao felt America's move in Korea encroached on China's sovereignty. And when America threatened China with nuclear war Mao shrugged his shoulders.
The real current issue is China's designs on the South China Sea. Does China see America's global presence as an encroachment?
America has done so well playing geopolitical poker in the Middle East that she should have no problem figuring out Japan and South Korea, right? And, keep in mind--China doesn't bluff.
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"keep in mind-China doesn't bluff."
Who you trying to scare?
If China doesn't bluff fhe Sun Tzu tradition is dead and gone.
By the way, China is a nation and people. Its government is a commie dictatorship that is picking fights. If Taiwan ran China there would be no significant contradictions. There is no contradiction except for the needs of the dictatorship, having given up communism for state capitalism and feudal corruption.
Who you trying to scare?
If China doesn't bluff fhe Sun Tzu tradition is dead and gone.
By the way, China is a nation and people. Its government is a commie dictatorship that is picking fights. If Taiwan ran China there would be no significant contradictions. There is no contradiction except for the needs of the dictatorship, having given up communism for state capitalism and feudal corruption.
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Who are Mr. Xi's allies and friends; Mr. Putin, Mr. Modi, Mr. Sisi. As they say: birds of feather flock together.
But, it's better to have a dialogue with China, than no meaningful contact at all. China has the bomb, huge piles of cash and has sent taikonauts to space.
But, it's better to have a dialogue with China, than no meaningful contact at all. China has the bomb, huge piles of cash and has sent taikonauts to space.
Modi is a US ally. As are Israel and Saudi Arabia. Birds of a feather do flock together.
Just relax. China is scared right now and for good reason. Mistaking an inoffensive and pacifist Japan for a weak adversary, China has been stepping all over the short tail of the greatest military force in all of Asia. I especially love the fact that it was China's belligerence on the Senkaku issue that now has the Chinese military trembling in their marionette boots.
As for the demographic disparity between the two countries (meaning who can raise the largest military force in human assets), Japan has developed a countervailing superiority with highly expendable drones. After a massive airstrike against any Chinese city, these solar-powered drones will then be deployed in the thousands over every city to keep the populace trapped indoors for weeks, if not months, thus starving the city in an unrelenting siege. These human-perceptive, software-directive drones fly well above early detection limits and then swoop down with deadly fire on scavenging individuals in the impact zone. These new war drones replace snipers and occupation forces without the need for an operator on the ground.
Yes, the Chinese are surely trembling at the thought of a resurgent militaristic Japan, as well they should be, considering the Japanese propensity to creating certain Pearl Harbor moments. Xi Jinping is here to ensure that the US keeps Japan on a tight leash.
As for the demographic disparity between the two countries (meaning who can raise the largest military force in human assets), Japan has developed a countervailing superiority with highly expendable drones. After a massive airstrike against any Chinese city, these solar-powered drones will then be deployed in the thousands over every city to keep the populace trapped indoors for weeks, if not months, thus starving the city in an unrelenting siege. These human-perceptive, software-directive drones fly well above early detection limits and then swoop down with deadly fire on scavenging individuals in the impact zone. These new war drones replace snipers and occupation forces without the need for an operator on the ground.
Yes, the Chinese are surely trembling at the thought of a resurgent militaristic Japan, as well they should be, considering the Japanese propensity to creating certain Pearl Harbor moments. Xi Jinping is here to ensure that the US keeps Japan on a tight leash.
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You must be delusional think Japan ever had the chance against an unified China. Think about this, US marines defeated Japan but who fought the marines to a standstill in Korea? And that's with outdated, not even WW2 era weapons.
Now with China ahead of Japan in science and technology (in both practical and theoretical), Japan doesn't stand a chance. Don't believe me, look into China and Japan's aircraft, robotic, space craft and supercomputer development. Japan has a huge lead before 2000 but two decades of languish erodes Japan's lead to nothing.
Now with China ahead of Japan in science and technology (in both practical and theoretical), Japan doesn't stand a chance. Don't believe me, look into China and Japan's aircraft, robotic, space craft and supercomputer development. Japan has a huge lead before 2000 but two decades of languish erodes Japan's lead to nothing.
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China is one of the world's major powers and is here to stay.The USSR declines .US ignores it and treats it with contempt. Now it is back giving us problems. Keep this in mind when dealing with China.
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Chinese authorities face the challenge of reforming the country’s vast economy away from over-dependence on investment and exports and towards more domestic, household consumption. They are also seeking to gradually take the heat out of overvalued property and share prices.
Reforms have included moves to rein in debt-fuelled investment, from large infrastructure projects to individuals buying property and speculating on the stock market.
It will be of course challenging - it can’t be anything other than challenging when you’ve got the world’s second largest economy and you’ve got 1.3 billion people who are undergoing this big change, so you do get things like movements on stock markets.
It is important to keep our eye on the bigger picture, on the bigger prize, that this period of economic reform can lay the foundations for Chinese prosperity for decades to come, it will be good for China and good for us.
Reforms have included moves to rein in debt-fuelled investment, from large infrastructure projects to individuals buying property and speculating on the stock market.
It will be of course challenging - it can’t be anything other than challenging when you’ve got the world’s second largest economy and you’ve got 1.3 billion people who are undergoing this big change, so you do get things like movements on stock markets.
It is important to keep our eye on the bigger picture, on the bigger prize, that this period of economic reform can lay the foundations for Chinese prosperity for decades to come, it will be good for China and good for us.
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China's primary problem is that State Owned Enterprises (SOE) account for 78.3% of Chinese economic revenue and 88.7% of Chinese taxes. Of China's 500 top business entities about 58.6 % are SOE's and 41.45 are private. Of the top 100 Chinese companies ranked in the world 92 are SOE's.
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President Xi Jinping apparently is flying straight to Seattle before his visit in Washington. Apparently, he'll be lobbying some of our high-tech companies there to contract their work to shops in China. Shame on the Seattle techs for even entertaining such talks. When does the optimum profit agenda end? These companies need to train and hire U.S. workers. What's more, U.S. workers are not going to engage in cyber-hacking or the theft of research and development secrets. I agree with Trump, Xi Jinping should be taken out for a McDonald's meal, instead of a flashy state dinner.
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@rangerluna - A majority of WA State's exports goes to China and that's including Microsoft products.
President Xi is meeting with top State business leaders who will be lobbying him to take more of the State's products.
President Xi is meeting with top State business leaders who will be lobbying him to take more of the State's products.
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China has more students in American universities and colleges than any other nation. They used to have the option of staying in America. Now they go home. Including the Harvard educated daughters of Xi Jinping and Premier Li Keqiang. Trump is an ignorant idiot real estate developer and entertainer. China holds 10% of American debt while manufacturing all of our cheap electronic IT devices.
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The economic agreement that i would like to see is that global warming/climate change trumps everything. It is in our interest that the Chinese export solar panels to us at the lowest price possible, so long as both countries use them as fast as possible to replace their high emissions grids. At the same time China would agree to accept and respect foreign intellectual property rights as to the wide spread use of these panels in the Chinese grid. This would also solve China's air pollution problems.
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If it does we just need to return China to their economy of say 50 years ago. That would help a lot. What baseline power are you thinking of replacing with solar. You need an education of how the grid works or just get totally off of it, including everything you use. Try that and see how far you can go.
to vulcanalex: i'm not sure you understand how the grid works. first a lot of electricity is lost n transmission. With home or business solar, you use what you need with almost no loss and sell the rest to the electric company. The problem is intermittent power. this is partially solved with wind and batteries, and completely with natural gas, and hydro as backup. TVA has the hydro in TN. In other areas, users would have to cut their usage initially--a small sacrifice to save the planet. In the dominican republic, communities off the grid pay $5/mo per family for micro-hydro that runs their lights and appliances for most of the day. Once solar is in, energy from the sun is FREE. We need to rethink our public utility contracts; electric companies will still do well just running the grid.
How can a capitalistic country like the United States hate on China, when our whole economic system benifits by the environment which the Communist system of China provides
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In the international relationship, there is no permanent friend nor foe. Each sovereign state pursue her own interest and the states with common interests are friends and with different interest are foes. The internal political disagreements, growing deficits from trade and budget, erosion of manufacturing capabilities and self-destructive foreign interventions by the US since 1970’s have greatly weakened our ability in dealing with China.
"at moment of vulnerability" for WHOM?
Last I heard China wasn't embroiled in several ruinous quagmires in the Middle East and didn't have talk-show poseurs and failed CEOs touted as possible leaders of the nation!
Last I heard China wasn't embroiled in several ruinous quagmires in the Middle East and didn't have talk-show poseurs and failed CEOs touted as possible leaders of the nation!
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No in China only the party elite get to be leaders, you really want that here? Then just anoint HILLARY!!!
That's because the Xi will tolerate no such possible leaders ("talk-show poseurs" or otherwise). What do you think the Hong Kong protests were about? Oh, and there's the economic turmoil of late.
This article is about one of the most powerful people on the planet. It's been front and center and the NYT site for at least ten hours. It doesn't show up in the 10 most viewed or the 10 most emailed lists. And it has only inspired a meager 116 comments.
If only there were a Donald Trump or Caitlyn Jenner angle to fold into it...
If only there were a Donald Trump or Caitlyn Jenner angle to fold into it...
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Good point but he is not the most powerful. And the article such as it is contains massive bias and thus probably only deserves little attention.
Obama should tell him to hand over the information China stole from the US on individuals who work for the federal government and hold security clearances.
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Absolute shame on "China" for its persecution of dissidents, strangling of human rights (as defined by the same United Nations of which "China" is a member), illegal occupation of Tibet, aggression in Southeast Asia, and not least for its attempt to marginalize Taiwan, the country that holds more moral legitimacy to the mantle of "China" than its bully neighbors.
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My guess is is that Xi, at this juncture in history, understands his countries vulnerabilities all too well and that after an initial round of bluff and bluster during negotiations, he will offer to rein back his cyber and physical aggressions in hopes that Obama will not seek sanctions on Chinese trade (Xi's most vulnerable area of strength). Of Course Xi has no intention what so ever of following through with his promises, but this tact will buy him time to try and repair his economy, strengthen his hand and to see how our up-coming elections effect our will as a people to engage them. Obama for his part MUST be willing to call Xi's bluff on every point and demand that Xi provide concrete examples of the Chinese promises of contrition-Dismantling the fake islands in the South China Sea would be a good test to see if the Chinese were serious or if they were simply trying to buy time.
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The Chinese Communist Party is ruthless and no friend of the American people.
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Just like the American Republican and Democratic Party.
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…..nor are they a friend of the majority of Chinese working people who are exploited by the greedy.
The thing that people are forgetting here is that things aren't all peachy in China. This recent market fluctuation has only eroded the trust in the Chinese government even more. Combine that with a failing Chinese education system, that breeds no innovation whatsoever, and you have yourself a scared chinese populace. Oh and the fact that China's one child policy is creating a population that is growing incredibly old, and will continue to do so for some time to come, is going to wreak havoc in China social programs supporting the elderly will start costing the Chinese government an exponential amount of money.
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The Chinese just stole sensitive personal data of all current and many former federal government employees. The breadth and scale of this cybertheft is unprecedented, and the security implications are scary. I don't think the U.S. government should be giving this guy any air time whatsoever.
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I have thought that the TPP was really a well thought out ploy to establish important friendship in that part of the world, i.e., S. E. Asia. Of course there is a downside, maybe, but if President Xi is the power hungry despot he is described as, we may some day praise President Obama for his long view and forethought.
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Well said. While people railed about the TPP, no one looked at it as what is likely is: the best of a series of horrible choices meant to mitigate the Chinese take over of commerce.
One thing I am completely certain of, Mr. Obama is a very intelligent man. I would not say that about many people and even fewer Presidents. If he's done it, there is a reason beyond self-aggrandizement. He could have walked away in the twilight of his presidency like he will do on the Keystone Pipeline. Yet he didn't.
One thing I am completely certain of, Mr. Obama is a very intelligent man. I would not say that about many people and even fewer Presidents. If he's done it, there is a reason beyond self-aggrandizement. He could have walked away in the twilight of his presidency like he will do on the Keystone Pipeline. Yet he didn't.
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The headline suggests short term focus ignoring the long term.
Economy and stock market have ups and downs. US economy
and stock market have had umpteenth down turns and some
severe. Why so much fuss if Chinese economy has slowed after
explosive growth and the stock market is down 40% after growing
100% year before. IN US it will be called correction. In case of
China it is some sort of malaise. The tone of the report suggests
Obama should treat president XI as a boxer whose knees have
buckled and deliver knockout punch. Nothing will be more damaging
to relationship than Obama treating XI as a leader of a weakening
country. China holds $1.3T US debt.
Economy and stock market have ups and downs. US economy
and stock market have had umpteenth down turns and some
severe. Why so much fuss if Chinese economy has slowed after
explosive growth and the stock market is down 40% after growing
100% year before. IN US it will be called correction. In case of
China it is some sort of malaise. The tone of the report suggests
Obama should treat president XI as a boxer whose knees have
buckled and deliver knockout punch. Nothing will be more damaging
to relationship than Obama treating XI as a leader of a weakening
country. China holds $1.3T US debt.
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"China holds $1.3T US debt."
And?
China should be the one afraid of that debt. They have absolutely no way to collect it if the United States decides not to pay.
And?
China should be the one afraid of that debt. They have absolutely no way to collect it if the United States decides not to pay.
dude, you are describing the US as a gangster and somehow it is.
the slowdown in china's growth imperils stability in their society because high rates of growth (by recent U.S. standards) are required to absorb the large number of entrants in the manufacturing and service labor force. The large number of entrants is primarily driven by migration from rural areas to cities, rather than to population growth. The chinese government is terrified that a significant slowdown may imperil its implied social contract and lead to an overthrow of the one party rule. So it engages in nationalistic gestures, such as claiming and militarizing the entire south china sea and beyond, that ultimately lead to global instability. as with russia and iran, the real challenge for US leaders is to know when to be tough and risk a conflict as a means to avoid a much worse conflict in the future. said differently, even if US leaders seek peace and mutual respect, above all, getting to this point may require meeting aggression with the same to dissuade adversaries from a destructive path. at this point, it is both not-at-all clear that China will continue to grow its economy (by transitioning from export-driven to consumption-driven) and whether serious conflict with the US may ultimately be avoided.
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Undeterred by economic downturn the visiting Chinese President Xi Jinping could even show guts to woo the US' top tech-business elite to invest in China without bothering for the charges of hacking the US is consistently levelling against China.
It's good that Xi Jinping realises the global impact of an economic slowdown in China, because economic strength is its sole means to gain international recognition as a superpower.
Yet without economic and political reforms the country will most unlikely to regain the vigour it saw two decades ago, because it needs to take a new path - liberal market economy. If the leadership fails to deliver, state intervention wouldn't help to re-energise growth.
Yet without economic and political reforms the country will most unlikely to regain the vigour it saw two decades ago, because it needs to take a new path - liberal market economy. If the leadership fails to deliver, state intervention wouldn't help to re-energise growth.
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IMHO PRC China will implode sooner or later without economic and political reforms. Ironically they lit the fuse by lifting 600 million Chinese out of poverty.
We should always treat Russian and China warily: they are our enemies. We can still have trade deals with them, because this lessens tensions but we are in a state of perpetual war.
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We have have what? 1. 5 billion people between them, U.S. 300 million? Do we really want to be in a state of war?
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treating Russian and China warily is nonsense.
If Xi remains in power for seven more years (if not longer) we will end up dealing with another Putin as far as aggressive actions and confrontation are concerned. Xi seems all about power, control and suppression of dissent of any kind and will be able to do more of it as he becomes more powerful. On the other hand, going after so many powerful enemies at once as part of his anti-corruption campaign could open him up to a leadership change as the scapegoat for all of China's ills if the economy continues to erode and those he is persecuting form an alliance to topple him. That is after all the gamble one takes when they wish to be responsible for everything.
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China has a term limited collective leadership for a maximum of 2 five year terms. This is Deng Xiaoping's China. Not Mao Zedong's.
Assuming vulnerability on the part of President Xi or for China as a country is both wrong and simply self-defeating in dealing diplomatically with the Chinese. Countries experience problems, what else is to be expected? The question is how problems are resolved and in this respect China is completely stable and adept at problem solving. Assume Chinese strengths, and we can work well with China diplomatically.
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Great observation. Fixing U.S. own problem while establish constructive relationship with China.
I hope China and the US will be able to work out their differences somehow because these superpower rivalries just aren't worth it in the long run. Who won the cold war between the United States and the Soviet Union? Answer: Japan.
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"Xi Jinping of China Arriving in U.S. at Moment of Vulnerability"
With Obama in the WHite House of course. That is why we need a strong leader like Trump or Cruz. They would know how to make them respect the US.
With Obama in the WHite House of course. That is why we need a strong leader like Trump or Cruz. They would know how to make them respect the US.
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I firmly believe you have misread the sentence. Xi Jinping is vulerable in China because of their badly failing stock market that has affected the economy drastically.
It is not because President Obama is vulnerable for any reason, and neither Trump nor Cruz would teach the Chinese how to respect anyone with an attitude of belligerence and anger and aggressive intent. The Chinese leaders are past masters at that sort of behavior.
It is not because President Obama is vulnerable for any reason, and neither Trump nor Cruz would teach the Chinese how to respect anyone with an attitude of belligerence and anger and aggressive intent. The Chinese leaders are past masters at that sort of behavior.
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@Sajwert It's too optimistic to expect Trump (or Cruz aka Trump wannabe) supporters to correctly interpret headlines, or read anything beyond what makes their base foam at the mouth, or read, period.
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Agreed the USA needs strong leadership but Trump or Cruz are not the leaders we need.
You don't know what a strong leader is.
You think a strong leader is someone who takes a militant positions and that is part of it but even more important this leader has to know when not to take that position.
Neither Cruz and especially Trump have that ability.
To Sajwert The Chinese have no past that proves they are masters of anything besides being brutal.
They need to learn a lesson that we will not accept what they do
This goes back to the Korean War.
China created North Korea and China has to stop them from creating problems.
China has to stop it's aggressive behavior towards Japan.
China has to stop it's aggressive action over the internet that are being done to create havoc
China will only make these changes if we can tell them to.
You don't know what a strong leader is.
You think a strong leader is someone who takes a militant positions and that is part of it but even more important this leader has to know when not to take that position.
Neither Cruz and especially Trump have that ability.
To Sajwert The Chinese have no past that proves they are masters of anything besides being brutal.
They need to learn a lesson that we will not accept what they do
This goes back to the Korean War.
China created North Korea and China has to stop them from creating problems.
China has to stop it's aggressive behavior towards Japan.
China has to stop it's aggressive action over the internet that are being done to create havoc
China will only make these changes if we can tell them to.
Bragging Rights. As they've bought tons of US debt, both T-Bills & T-Bonds, they feel free to come and patronize US w/o being escorted.
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Old saying: "If you owe the bank a $100, the bank owns you, if you owe the bank a billion, you own the bank".
Just tell them if they want to see a dollar out of it, work with the USofA.
Just tell them if they want to see a dollar out of it, work with the USofA.
NYT is more focused on competition between Chna and the U.S. If you go through the Chinese press, you find that they recognize the competition but there is more, and I feel like over emphasis on collaboration between the two countries.
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Yeah, more emphasis on competition and rivalry and fantasy of eventual domination, that's what I've been reading on the Chinese media.
make sure the democratically elected dictator understands that we're not repatriating the chinese citizens hiding out in the US because the chinese didn't detain and return edward snowden, as requested.
also, let him know that we really kinda like the chinese idea of seizing tiny disputed islands and building military installations on them. so inform him that we've bought the senkaku islands from japan for $1 and that we plan to build a vast military air base and electronic surveillance complex on what is now USA territory.
since he needs four microphones on his parade car to be heard, he probably needs all that repeated four times in order to hear it. best to do that in public, where everyone can see it happen.
also, let him know that we really kinda like the chinese idea of seizing tiny disputed islands and building military installations on them. so inform him that we've bought the senkaku islands from japan for $1 and that we plan to build a vast military air base and electronic surveillance complex on what is now USA territory.
since he needs four microphones on his parade car to be heard, he probably needs all that repeated four times in order to hear it. best to do that in public, where everyone can see it happen.
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If the US had not invested so much money in the Chinese economy, her global position would not be in question. Investing In China has made a lot of Americans wealthy, but not most Americans. Our wealthy class has sold us up the river so that, now, our population's fortunes are reflected in the Chinese economy. Our failing middle class has subsidized the growth of the Chinese middle class.
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Nary a mention of Obama's China policy: the Pacific-first strategy, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Xi and China will not lay down and play dead in the face of these provocations, a one-two combination designed and intended to contain, isolate, and ultimately dismember China.
Xi perfectly understands America's jealousy in wanting to remain #1 against all comers, China in particular (but also Russia), when it comes to military power and the spread of US-sponsored globalization of "market freedom." Obama, as elsewhere in his foreign policy, is itching for confrontation, and at the very least the renewal of the Cold War, with China rather than Russia the focus of attention.
As for cyberwarfare, if China engages in this, the US is no virgin, its NSA massive surveillance of our own citizens having no parallel in US history--as well as hacking on a global basis (e.g., into Angela Merkel's private communications). All told, stiff-arming Xi here, as on the islands in the South China Sea, or on cyberwarfare, will not work. Like that of Pope Francis, the Xi visit cannot be turned to advantage as a propaganda coup. Both men have America's number.
Xi perfectly understands America's jealousy in wanting to remain #1 against all comers, China in particular (but also Russia), when it comes to military power and the spread of US-sponsored globalization of "market freedom." Obama, as elsewhere in his foreign policy, is itching for confrontation, and at the very least the renewal of the Cold War, with China rather than Russia the focus of attention.
As for cyberwarfare, if China engages in this, the US is no virgin, its NSA massive surveillance of our own citizens having no parallel in US history--as well as hacking on a global basis (e.g., into Angela Merkel's private communications). All told, stiff-arming Xi here, as on the islands in the South China Sea, or on cyberwarfare, will not work. Like that of Pope Francis, the Xi visit cannot be turned to advantage as a propaganda coup. Both men have America's number.
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Ask Korea (South, the good one) or the Philippines or even Vietnam who scares them more, the poor misunderstood China you describe here or the evil US. Feel free to try and convince the rest of South East Asia who is who.
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There is a huge difference
We spy on them
We should be doing that.
China has spied on us and have attacked us with cyber warfare and stole not just military secrets but scientific ones without paying for them.
They have to stop.
We spy on them
We should be doing that.
China has spied on us and have attacked us with cyber warfare and stole not just military secrets but scientific ones without paying for them.
They have to stop.
If not being noticed here, but making a splash back home is his desire, he picked the right time to visit. The Pope will upstage him every minute of the day.
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Chinese government requested our government repeatedly to delay Pope's visit in order to prevent lessor interest of the media toward Xi's visit, according to The Yomiuri of Japan. Obviously this request was not accepted as Xi will arrive in Washington DC on the day Pope Francis makes a speech at the Congress. Leaks are always welcome for the general public.
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Obama's policyless foreign policy is shameful enough, it is not Obama's fault that greedy capitalists can't stop themselves from doing anything to get in on the China market, and are now shocked, shocked to find out that when push comes to shove there is a communist dictatorship, which is now doing all th epushing and shoving. With the greedies doing all they can to comply and the chinese smirking that revenge is sweet. Time for some kow towing over fake island aircraft carriers in the And fake internet detente accords.
Not to worry. Obama has demanded Japan get back to an empire building army. Let us call it an Imperial Army, shall we? Good times are coming!
Not to worry. Obama has demanded Japan get back to an empire building army. Let us call it an Imperial Army, shall we? Good times are coming!
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so you saying the Japanese should not build up their armed forces (i.e., show weakness to the chinese as Obama does)? Why should they appease? Because Obama does?
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A moment of Vulnerability?
According to who? Our economy is nearly stagnant.
How about if Obama steps up and actually brings up China's constant hacking of America?
According to who? Our economy is nearly stagnant.
How about if Obama steps up and actually brings up China's constant hacking of America?
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I have heard that he plans to do just that.
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Xi may be trying to project strength, but China has a lot of problems which aren't being discussed.
#1 - The education system. Very good at training Chinese students to take tests, horrible at pretty much anything else. Classrooms are overcrowded (normal middle school and high school classes are 50-70 students), and students do not develop crucial job skills such as working in teams and being able to think creatively and independently. There's a reason why anybody who can is sending their kid(s) to study abroad. Unless the education system is reformed, China's economy is going to struggle to grow, especially since the desire for political control stifles innovation.
#2 - The environment. By and large, China environment has for the most part been destroyed. It's not just the air pollution, its also the water pollution and ground pollution. Not only are these going to cause a huge amount of future health problems, but they are also going to impact China's drinking water supply and food supply.
#3 - Demographics. Because of the one-child policy, China is beginning to age rapidly. By 2030, it will demographically be similar to present day Japan, i.e. with 2-3 retirees for every working age person, and will begin to suffer similar economic problems.
#4 - Increasing wage demands. Workers are demanding higher wages in order to keep up with the higher cost of living, which is eroding China's low cost advantage vis-a-vis other countries.
#1 - The education system. Very good at training Chinese students to take tests, horrible at pretty much anything else. Classrooms are overcrowded (normal middle school and high school classes are 50-70 students), and students do not develop crucial job skills such as working in teams and being able to think creatively and independently. There's a reason why anybody who can is sending their kid(s) to study abroad. Unless the education system is reformed, China's economy is going to struggle to grow, especially since the desire for political control stifles innovation.
#2 - The environment. By and large, China environment has for the most part been destroyed. It's not just the air pollution, its also the water pollution and ground pollution. Not only are these going to cause a huge amount of future health problems, but they are also going to impact China's drinking water supply and food supply.
#3 - Demographics. Because of the one-child policy, China is beginning to age rapidly. By 2030, it will demographically be similar to present day Japan, i.e. with 2-3 retirees for every working age person, and will begin to suffer similar economic problems.
#4 - Increasing wage demands. Workers are demanding higher wages in order to keep up with the higher cost of living, which is eroding China's low cost advantage vis-a-vis other countries.
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"The education system. Very good at training Chinese students to take tests, horrible at pretty much anything else."
Fifteen years ago, when I was a student, I would argue that's a terrible prejudice (I did). Today, I just smile and pass the subject. :)
Fifteen years ago, when I was a student, I would argue that's a terrible prejudice (I did). Today, I just smile and pass the subject. :)
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None of these concerns are new. I read them 30 years ago, yet China continues to grow faster than any Western nation. China still has some 200 million adults who are stuck in the hinterlands and small farms, the vast majority of whom are itching to enjoy the "benefits" of major cities in spit of all their drawbacks.
I would not be surprised to see China's Mare Nostrum extend from the shores of Korea and Japan in the north to New Guinea in the south nor Western investments in China be controlled by China before Xi leaves office.
I would not be surprised to see China's Mare Nostrum extend from the shores of Korea and Japan in the north to New Guinea in the south nor Western investments in China be controlled by China before Xi leaves office.
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Families who have the means to send their kids overseas because the schools in China are competitively gruesome. Nobody in China actually believes their kids can receive a better education overseas.
As for environment, sure its bad, like America 50s bad, but China is actively doing something about it -- promoting use of alternative energy like solar, wind and nuclear. Check back in 20 years.
One child policy was recently abolished.
Of course China will not continue to be the cost leader, its chasing higher valued added manufacturing and services like south Korea and Japan prior.
As for environment, sure its bad, like America 50s bad, but China is actively doing something about it -- promoting use of alternative energy like solar, wind and nuclear. Check back in 20 years.
One child policy was recently abolished.
Of course China will not continue to be the cost leader, its chasing higher valued added manufacturing and services like south Korea and Japan prior.
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There is no U.S. politician who has the level of approval and admiration that Xi enjoys in China. The idea that Chinese people are questioning single party rule because of the economic slowdown is ludicrous. In 2008 did U.S. citizens question their electoral system? Every Chinese citizen can look at their father and their grandfather and see the tangible improvements in their lives. As a U.S. citizen can you afford to buy your father's house? How does your grandpa's pension compare to yours?
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As a U.S. citizen can you afford to buy your father's house? How does your grandpa's pension compare to yours?
We have plenty more enterprise, especially in the realm of derivatives markets, hence your questions are moot. This is true freedom and advancement.
We have plenty more enterprise, especially in the realm of derivatives markets, hence your questions are moot. This is true freedom and advancement.
While all countries can be criticized for myriad things, I hope President Obama takes this occasion to strengthen the ties between two great nations.
China is stumbling economically now, a victim of an excessively managed economy.
Some foolish people in America will be gleeful, but that is myopic.
Nearly 20% of all people live in China. A peaceful and prosperous China is in the world's interest.
Chinese leaders are taking steps to liberalize their economy and stamp out corruption, but such reforms won't occur overnight.
The US and China should look past our problems and look at our common interests.
We can each criticize each other all day long, but that would miss the greater opportunity to fortify our shared interests.
In the nuclear age, the real risk to society is not suicidal military engagements at the state level, but rather suicidal engagements at the individual level, or terrorism.
If we focus on major issues affecting everyone, especially climate change, renewable clean energy, security, and higher standards of living for all people, we can collaborate constructively.
Wisdom and long-term shared interests needs to prevail on this visit.
China is stumbling economically now, a victim of an excessively managed economy.
Some foolish people in America will be gleeful, but that is myopic.
Nearly 20% of all people live in China. A peaceful and prosperous China is in the world's interest.
Chinese leaders are taking steps to liberalize their economy and stamp out corruption, but such reforms won't occur overnight.
The US and China should look past our problems and look at our common interests.
We can each criticize each other all day long, but that would miss the greater opportunity to fortify our shared interests.
In the nuclear age, the real risk to society is not suicidal military engagements at the state level, but rather suicidal engagements at the individual level, or terrorism.
If we focus on major issues affecting everyone, especially climate change, renewable clean energy, security, and higher standards of living for all people, we can collaborate constructively.
Wisdom and long-term shared interests needs to prevail on this visit.
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Mr. Xi has come to gloat, and brag and maybe bluster.
He seems to think he'll be allowed to simply filibuster.
While his fellow countrymen hack our data daily,
he will ride a limo with Obama, waving gaily.
And if we task him for engulfing atolls with much sand,
he will wave the flag and call them China's promised land.
But have a care, dear Mr. Xi; Greek drama please review --
or you will find that hubris can be served with chopsticks, too!
He seems to think he'll be allowed to simply filibuster.
While his fellow countrymen hack our data daily,
he will ride a limo with Obama, waving gaily.
And if we task him for engulfing atolls with much sand,
he will wave the flag and call them China's promised land.
But have a care, dear Mr. Xi; Greek drama please review --
or you will find that hubris can be served with chopsticks, too!
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A slippery "learning the road" for China in decades ahead, as her economic power and maturity precedes her political, social, and international relation development. But neither was our country, the US, throughout several decades after WWII. Only after Vietnam did we learn "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
China views her activity in South China Sea no differently the way the US viewed Latin America, Panama canal at the turn of the 20th century. She will continue to bully, sea-grab her neighbors with impunity and arrogance.
China, The Bully in East Asia Shop is inevitable and unstoppable until the country changes its political system, which will be several decades from now.
China views her activity in South China Sea no differently the way the US viewed Latin America, Panama canal at the turn of the 20th century. She will continue to bully, sea-grab her neighbors with impunity and arrogance.
China, The Bully in East Asia Shop is inevitable and unstoppable until the country changes its political system, which will be several decades from now.
"Xi Jinping of China Arriving in U.S. at Moment of Vulnerability"
Exactly so, but not in the way The Times' authors intended.
Exactly so, but not in the way The Times' authors intended.
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The coincidence of the President of China and the Pope arriving in the US at the same time cannot be overlooked.
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God has obviously had a hand in it. May Xi, the non-believer, be converted and take back the word of God with him.
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At least Xi doesn't have to be an apologist for policies that aimed at covering up, hiding and sheltering pedophiles.
Let's see NYTimes let that one through :)
Let's see NYTimes let that one through :)
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Is imprisoning feminists, political prisoners of dissent or subversion, anti-corruption grassroots organizers, environment and human rights activists, anyone who fights for Tibetans, Uyghurs or Hong Kong democracy, so much better? Give me a break, stop with the petty who's-more-evil oneupmanship and glaring false equivalence.
For mutual benefit the most populous nation on earth and the richest nation on earth need to have a working relation, open lines of communication, trade and respect for each others concerns with regard to each others strategic moves that may be perceived as antagonistic to the other. In this spirit the visit of Xi Jingping as the leader of China should be welcomed and Americans should hope that good will come out of his visit.
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Many commenters complain of our POTUS lacking back bone. They mean putting more American boots on foreign soil. World War II was an Industrial Age war: battleships, tanks, airplanes, bombs, bullets and tens of millions of foot soldiers. We won. This type of war ended with atomic bombs dropped on Japan. Wars aren't fought and won that way anymore. Xi knows. Obama does, too.
If we want war, maybe we should let more immigrants come in and put them in uniform to battle the Evil Dragon Empire. Just like all the Irish boys who were drafted doing the Civil War to battle the Confederacy after Union disasters such as Bull Run.
If a country can win wars without guns, isn't that more better? We can learn from Putin and Xi.
If we want war, maybe we should let more immigrants come in and put them in uniform to battle the Evil Dragon Empire. Just like all the Irish boys who were drafted doing the Civil War to battle the Confederacy after Union disasters such as Bull Run.
If a country can win wars without guns, isn't that more better? We can learn from Putin and Xi.
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Since 9/11/01 only 0.75% of Americans have volunteered to wear an American military uniform.
I believe that every clucking American war hen should volunteer. After a visit to the Wizard of Oz for the full house sought by the Lion, Scarecrow, Tin Man, Dorothy and Toto too.
I believe that every clucking American war hen should volunteer. After a visit to the Wizard of Oz for the full house sought by the Lion, Scarecrow, Tin Man, Dorothy and Toto too.
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We should re-think our relationship with China. We give them billions each year in business because of their low labor costs; in return they ship us cheap junk. China has low labor & manufacturing costs because they have no protections for their workers, no safety standards for their products, no environmental controls. China takes the money we give them and uses it to pay for state sponsored hacking of our companies and government. They harass our friends in Asia and are building a navy that has significant offensive capability. These are not the actions of a friend and ally; they are the actions of a nation that is positioning itself for a future conflict.
Let us give our business and support to nations who want to be our friend rather than someone we may be facing in the South China Sea in a decade or so. At the very least the withdrawal of our business will seriously limit China's ability to pay for mischief in the world.
Let us give our business and support to nations who want to be our friend rather than someone we may be facing in the South China Sea in a decade or so. At the very least the withdrawal of our business will seriously limit China's ability to pay for mischief in the world.
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ASUS, Apple computers, Dell, Vizio, HP, Logitech, Canon,Whirl Pool, GE home Applicances, Clothes, Coach bags, sony, XBOX - Many of their products are made in China and depending on how you look at things they could be cheap junk just like the reliability American cars were in the 1970s-1980s or the GM ignition problems of last year.
These Cheap junk surround you where ever you go.
These Cheap junk surround you where ever you go.
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It is a misconception that China only produces or exports cheap junk. Just today the U.K. and China announced that a Chinese designed nuclear reactor would be built in the U.K.
Americans need to accept that we are no longer masters of the world. China will create its sphere of influence despite our, Japan's and others opposition. We Americans want instant gratification and convenience whereas the Chinese, individually and collectively have endured terrible hardships for a very long time. This ability to endure will ultimately enable them to prevail in achieving their goals.
Americans need to accept that we are no longer masters of the world. China will create its sphere of influence despite our, Japan's and others opposition. We Americans want instant gratification and convenience whereas the Chinese, individually and collectively have endured terrible hardships for a very long time. This ability to endure will ultimately enable them to prevail in achieving their goals.
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Bruce, your comments are very anti-free enterprise and hence, by extension, anti-American.
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I think neither party can claim a monopoly on "vulnerability" at this point in time. The key focus should be on the present superpower and regional power/emerging super power to just get along and work on issues in both parties and the world's interests. Childishly viewing relations as a zero sum gain will be very dangerous for our children and our planet. We don't have time to waste raising tensions, engaging in counterproductive and wasteful containment policies (see failed attempts to block China's Asian Infrastructure Development Bank and US blocking China from the international space program and other pure research forums etc... etc...). We certainly should not be deliberately raising tensions in Asia so as to fuel an regional arms race that while undeniably very profitable for the US merchants of death is not such a good idea for the people of the region. We've seen what this sort of security "help" and regime change has done for the Middle East and North Africa. Asia is not in chaos. Please resist the urge to meddle -- leave it alone. All the money spent on weapons systems, weapons and training can be put to better use solving many of this problems very serious problems. Although the merchants of death certainly have an angle on one solution to earth's overpopulation problem... It would be a pretty sad comment on humanity if that ultimately became the only option of which we were capable.
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Thank you.
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One may or may not factor in global climate change science when advocating unsustainable growth and profit. Personally, I firmly believe that all of us will benefit long term if we factor in climate change as top of the list in considerations when discussing economics in China and In America.
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You are going to have to define it first and then let real science guide you, not the politicized one surrounding climate change aka global warmimg.
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The Chinese government needs the U.S. more than we need. As the Chinese economy slows, there will be more pressure to end one party rule. Unemployed migrant workers pose a large reservoir of instability which the government will find difficult to control. When a government arrests bloggers, attack the Nobel Laureate The Dalai Lama and disappears artists, lawyers and journalists, it is weak, not strong. President Xi will smile and act with great confidence, but make no mistake, with a crumbling stock market and a disaffected people, he is fighting for his political life.
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Your line of thinking is quite outdated. It's not a matter of who-needs-who-more these days. In reality, US needs China as much as China needs US. It's a mutual dependence due to this increasingly connected and tangled world of economics.
If you ask average Chinese on the street, you would not hear about their concern of human rights abuse, or Dalai Lama, or Falun Gong, or some such. It's the same way Singaporeans don't see the strict government disciplinary policy as an issue. All of these issues are only issues in the westerners' eyes, really.
Thank of it another way, China has about 1.3M active military force in which China plans to reduce it in size to about 1M, in a country of 1.3B people. If anyone truly thinks Beijing can use military force to run civilians down, think again. This is also the exact reason why Beijing is so scared of social unrest because with law and order, how can Beijing possibly manage 1.3B people? (Oh, and they don't have much "law" anyhow, so the "order" part because so much more important.)
If you ask average Chinese on the street, you would not hear about their concern of human rights abuse, or Dalai Lama, or Falun Gong, or some such. It's the same way Singaporeans don't see the strict government disciplinary policy as an issue. All of these issues are only issues in the westerners' eyes, really.
Thank of it another way, China has about 1.3M active military force in which China plans to reduce it in size to about 1M, in a country of 1.3B people. If anyone truly thinks Beijing can use military force to run civilians down, think again. This is also the exact reason why Beijing is so scared of social unrest because with law and order, how can Beijing possibly manage 1.3B people? (Oh, and they don't have much "law" anyhow, so the "order" part because so much more important.)
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Xi Jin Ping never thinks he is vulnerable, as Chinese see Americans as hopelessly inferior to Chinese -- regardless of the Chinese economy. Fake smiles, affected behavior is what the Chinese will bring and this worked well on Jimmy Carter. Reciprocity is never demanded by USA, the ultimate doormat. In response to China's spies, anchor babies, aggression, discrimination against Americans, and currency manipulation USA does nothing. We HOPE for R-e-c-i-p-r-o-c-i-t-y for a CHANGE.
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"President Xi Jinping..., wearing a traditional suit of the kind favored by Mao and waving at parade troops assembled at attention."
This is a strange statement. The suit was prompted by Sun Yat-sen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen). Mao was just of one of many who favored the suit.
This is a strange statement. The suit was prompted by Sun Yat-sen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen). Mao was just of one of many who favored the suit.
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Thank you for one of the most insightful description of the Chinese leader.
We have been giving China so much leeway and so many free passes they are starting to believe that they're going to conquer the world. It is time that we flex our economic power along with our European partners by relocating some major corporations back to America and to Europe where they belong, or, impose tariffs to makeup for the loss of jobs and our own economic stability.
We have made them rich beyond their dreams and they have the audacity to steal our intellectual property in plain sight, to turn it against us. This is simply no longer acceptable. They see our openness as a weakness. They are used to autocratic forms of government throughout their entire history. It won't change overnight. Bringing back some of our large corporations to the US, will send a tremor to their rank-and-file.
I am also happy to see Japan stand up to them by creating its own military defense. Japan should not depend on the US for its protection. Another loophole that had to be closed.
As Scotty said, " I like diplomacy with a fully loaded phaser bank." We are in debt to them by trillions dollars in exchange for lots of junk. They are still very vulnerable to inside and outside forces. Maybe we should give them a waking call ! The ball is still in our court. We should use it now rather than later when it might be too late.
We have been giving China so much leeway and so many free passes they are starting to believe that they're going to conquer the world. It is time that we flex our economic power along with our European partners by relocating some major corporations back to America and to Europe where they belong, or, impose tariffs to makeup for the loss of jobs and our own economic stability.
We have made them rich beyond their dreams and they have the audacity to steal our intellectual property in plain sight, to turn it against us. This is simply no longer acceptable. They see our openness as a weakness. They are used to autocratic forms of government throughout their entire history. It won't change overnight. Bringing back some of our large corporations to the US, will send a tremor to their rank-and-file.
I am also happy to see Japan stand up to them by creating its own military defense. Japan should not depend on the US for its protection. Another loophole that had to be closed.
As Scotty said, " I like diplomacy with a fully loaded phaser bank." We are in debt to them by trillions dollars in exchange for lots of junk. They are still very vulnerable to inside and outside forces. Maybe we should give them a waking call ! The ball is still in our court. We should use it now rather than later when it might be too late.
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China plays a long game, the US plays a short game. The statement is as true in our politics as it is in our business practices. The short game leads to rapid changes, both good and bad. The long game leads to a slow rise until some cataclysmic event comes along and knocks things back to square one. History shows neither country can lay claim to having the right strategy, it's merely a momentary up or down position. Who is up and who is down now? It's hard to say but the summit will be interesting to watch.
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Obama will give the Chinese anything they ask for and ask for nothing in return, as he has done with the Iranians, Cubans and Russians. Then he can add the resultant "Chinese Treaty" to his "legacy". The next President may spend most of their term unraveling the mess he leaves behind.
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Well since Obama never follows the constitution regarding treaties it will take the next president under 5 minutes. That is the problem with Obama thinking he is King when he isn't.
Both the Pope and the President of China are arriving in the U.S. on Tuesday? Strange.
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And Prime Minister Modi of India arrives the next day! The USA will be jam-packed, coast-to-coast, with World Leaders.
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Right?
"Behold a pale horse" or "the mark of the beast" Book of Revelations "strange."
Your comment is "strange".
What did your horoscope say?
"Behold a pale horse" or "the mark of the beast" Book of Revelations "strange."
Your comment is "strange".
What did your horoscope say?
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The Chinese communist party has a huge strategic problem post the stock market crash and subsequent failed attempts by the communists to prop up the market. The Chinese communists are now inexorably linked to the stock market, and every time the market goes down they will be blamed. Compounding this, the world now understands that the Chinese communist party has completely rigged the stock market, jailing or threatening brokers or investment bankers who dared to sell stock during the crash. The world will now think twice before investing in China. This is a two-pronged strategic defeat for Chinese communist party that likely lead to their eventual downfall.
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Picture this: Mr. Xi, Mr. Putin, Mr. Trump as world leaders. All that runaway ego running the world. Mr. Xi just put up 30% of his entire people's retirement future to try to shore up the stock market. Mr. Putin is burning food that is imported from countries who have sanctions against him. I can't even imagine DT in the mix. And it's all about "capitalism". The most destructive force on earth as it's being used today. America, Russia and China should forget "markets" they way they are being raided today and move to social democracies where the fruits of labor go back into the infrastructure instead of into a few greedy hands.
socialism needs to be subsidized since it is not revue generating, if we don't have the money makers making money then you'll have no subsidies. those 'few greedy hands' subsidize, through taxes & charity donations more then you realize.
It is a bad interpretation to say that after 30 years of your economy growing at 10% per year, and then growing "only" at 7%, then you are in the strategic low ground. C'mon. China is powerful not because in a particular year it grows 3% more or less than average. It is strategically crucial for the world because it has 1.37 billion people (yes, 1 billion more than the US), because it doubles in size at an impressive rate, because it will surpass the US as the biggest world economy by 2022. This 21st century is the China century. We ignore it at our own peril.
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Frank have you been reading the news about china's domestic economy recently? The stock market craziness and their domestic loans and more? You dont seem to mention any of that in your analysis of China and one has to wonder why.
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Chinas billions are a powder keg ready to blow the top off the CCP.
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@ Frank
But China is aging and shrinking with a huge male gender imbalance. The air and water is filthy. China's only ally is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. The construction crane is China's national bird. China is 8% non-ethnic Han among 55 different groups. China has 4x as many people as America in the same geographic area as America. About 18% of the human race lives in China. About 23% of the human race is ethnic Han. There are more Han living outside of China than there are American. Only 5% of the world's people are American.
But China is aging and shrinking with a huge male gender imbalance. The air and water is filthy. China's only ally is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. The construction crane is China's national bird. China is 8% non-ethnic Han among 55 different groups. China has 4x as many people as America in the same geographic area as America. About 18% of the human race lives in China. About 23% of the human race is ethnic Han. There are more Han living outside of China than there are American. Only 5% of the world's people are American.
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I am quite sure there are leaders in China who wish that the United States would quit meddling in the Middle East. I do not see how we can meddle in the issue of the artificial islands that they see as protection for their country. China, the sleeping giant, is too big to ignore and more attention should be paid to enhancing relations rather than denigrating this country or blaming them for all that happens.
Should have told him to stay home. The Chinese hack our computers, spy on is, try to monitor the activities of Chinese in the U.S. via agents and more. Why do we have to put up with this. Putin is a model world citizen by
comparison.
comparison.
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Yeah China, stay away. We can hack on our own computers and spy on ourselves just fine, thank you very much.
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So China's growth has slowed to 5%, an enviable rate. And we put hackers in jail instead of using their talent to counter Chinese attacks. Soon, they will be the largest economy in the world, even at the belittled growth rate.
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China is looking more and more like Japan after the Japanese bubble burst. Indeed, it is most likely that China will shirk much more and lose its position as the second largest economy to a resurgent Japan.
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A 5% growth rate will not be able to sustain employment levels or promote necessary development growth. You need to keep in mind that there are vast swathes -- hundreds of millions -- of Chinese who are still in absolute poverty; behind the glamour of the coastal cities there lies a nation's worth of people who are still poor and lack access to basic facilities and education -- essentially impoverished, in-land farmers.
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Obama will capitulate to the Chinese, just as he capitulated to the mullahs of Iran. And just as he also capitulated to Putin of Russia in response to his aggression in Ukraine and Assad of Syria in his use of chemical weapons and the refugee crisis. He lacks a spine when it comes to foreign relations and he continually fails to face down foreign despots. Instead he issues "red line in the sand" statements and then does absolutely nothing to protect the best interests of Americans. The same will happen with the Chinese. Watch for the disputed islands off Japan go to China and for China to become Iran's biggest supplier of weapons. And watch for Obama to do nothing in response.
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And how many tours of duty have you served joined with 0.75% of Americans who have volunteered to join the armed uniformed military American forces since 9/11/01?
Or are you just another clucking war hen like the Republican 2016 POTUS candidates?
Or are you just another clucking war hen like the Republican 2016 POTUS candidates?
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Have we just read that the Chinese leader arrives in America at the moment of weakness?
Is such a kind of weakness contagious?
Just imagine if we had to deal with the chronic trade and budget deficits.
Those are the signs of discipline, team spirit and willingness to sacrifice on behalf of the country…
Is such a kind of weakness contagious?
Just imagine if we had to deal with the chronic trade and budget deficits.
Those are the signs of discipline, team spirit and willingness to sacrifice on behalf of the country…
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It's true that China's miracle grow economy of the last decade has begun to lurch, so instead of double digit growth which stupefied Western economists, it has slowed down to a mildly humming 7% average in comparison to the treading water 3% annual growth of the US. What is not mentioned is that China and the Eastern countries will own the 21st century in terms of economies and opportunity while the power brokers of the 20th century struggle to keep their citizens employed, fed and housed as well as making sure trains & planes don't break down as a result of crumbling infrastructure. The modern world is inexorably tied to global financial markets as more & more countries increasingly depend on growing China to buy up their exports including building materials, minerals, technology & software. The US needs to focus on protecting our intellectual property, advanced cybersecurity & counterespionage. As Pres. Xi already made clear, the battleground of the future is on economic terms rather than military, thus the countries with the strongest GDP & currency will ultimately be the victors. Unless the US is able to "pivot to Asia" which means finalizing TPP, strengthening economic ties with our allies in the East & educate our citizens to become technological & scientific innovators, all of the military might in the world will just be artifice like a paper tiger. Let's hope that China's economy improves for all of the US stockholders who've profited greatly in the last decade.
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The West has tried to engage China peacefully through trade, technology transfer, and diplomacy for three decades, with a little time out after Tiananmen. Business people recklessly handed over valuable technology for access to markets that now looks like it was never going to be permanent. What we didn't hand over, China stole. That's on-going.
Our biggest import from China, meanwhile, has been corruption. It is in all walks of life now, and it's getting worse.
Yet we still have leaders who talk about bringing China's leaders around. Are we stupid, or what? Trump might be out there on some of the issues, but he's spot on with regards to China. Obama should host Xi at a local McD's and have the cameras rolling while he reads him the riot act. That's how much face this dictator deserves.
Our biggest import from China, meanwhile, has been corruption. It is in all walks of life now, and it's getting worse.
Yet we still have leaders who talk about bringing China's leaders around. Are we stupid, or what? Trump might be out there on some of the issues, but he's spot on with regards to China. Obama should host Xi at a local McD's and have the cameras rolling while he reads him the riot act. That's how much face this dictator deserves.
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What good would reading him the riot act do? It is ourselves we need to change. Stop favoring corporations, no more H1B visas, no more open immigration, no more tax off shoring and stock buybacks and carried interest deductions and high speed trading free of tax. We need to get our house in order.
China's leader coming ... Kerry meeting with the Russians .. The Israeli Prime Minister going to Russia ... and the Pope is here .. Heavy things going on .. The world is getting very small, very fast ..
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The world would have been better off if we never engaged the Chinese economically.
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LOL. Some twists on quotes from the article.
“The US is obsessed with strategic rivalry with China.
President Obama believes the US is a major power and is more willing to confront China.
Chinese corporate executives have complained that a new national security law in the US and proposed laws on cybersecurity and counterterrorism will restrict their operations by subjecting them to unnecessary scrutiny from the US ever more powerful domestic security apparatus.
“When forced to choose between giving market forces more play in the name of efficiency and sustainable growth, or reasserting the power of the US regardless of the long-run economic cost,” the US seems more likely to choose the latter.
Why does the NYT never acknowledge the hypocrisy of its news coverage? Oh well, it is busy being the official voice of the US empire, I guess.
“The US is obsessed with strategic rivalry with China.
President Obama believes the US is a major power and is more willing to confront China.
Chinese corporate executives have complained that a new national security law in the US and proposed laws on cybersecurity and counterterrorism will restrict their operations by subjecting them to unnecessary scrutiny from the US ever more powerful domestic security apparatus.
“When forced to choose between giving market forces more play in the name of efficiency and sustainable growth, or reasserting the power of the US regardless of the long-run economic cost,” the US seems more likely to choose the latter.
Why does the NYT never acknowledge the hypocrisy of its news coverage? Oh well, it is busy being the official voice of the US empire, I guess.
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My hope for America is that the Chinese people want what many Americans take for granted. This can then help change China by morphing it into smaller countries. I have lived to see the U.S.S.R. do it and I would like to see the same for all the people in China.
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What are you talking about? About 8% of Chinese are non-ethnic Han. Scattered among 55 different ethnic groups. There are more Han living outside of China than there are Americans. About 22% of the human race is ethnic Han Chinese.
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An undemocratic, authoritarian and corrupt government cannot create a thriving economy. The Chinese government is further proof.
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USA #1! China #2! At least for now.
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Foreign leaders seem to have there way with Obama. I am reminded of Obama's off mic comments to Putin "wait till after the election" to negotiate aggreements. He is dealing with a dictator of a strong country that we are in debt to and flexing their muscle in the Pacific. They continue to attack our government and private computer systems. Let's see if Mr Obama can show some backbone
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He would have to grow some first.
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If our right-wing is lonney, (I"m talking about Republicans) imagine how crazy the Chinese right-wing are!!! Such as, would the Chinese accept a limited nuclear war in which they trade 10 of their cities for LA and in return they drive the US out of Asia. The Chinese would be willing to make that trade and pretty much have stated such. It's time for the delusion of American exceptionalism to be viewed as the delusion that it always was and from the comments I see below, it's alive and well. Unfortunately for us the Chinese has a deep delusion of Chinese exceptionalism. Good luck America, you will need it.
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Is it possible this "delusion" is fed by the number of people around the world who want to come here, including 150,000 legal Chinese immigrants in the 2 most recent years that I can find ('12-'13)? I read that according to the U.N. the number of foreign born Chinese in America doubled in 10 years. There has to be something exceptional here, don't you think? Or are the immigrants deluded too?
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American media and American high tech CEOs, please ask Emperor Xi the following questions:
(1) Why Google, Facebook, Twiter, Youtube, New York Times, and part of CNN are blocked in China?
(2) Why is Mr, Liu Xiao Bo, the 2010 Nobel Peace Price winner, still in jail?
And why so many other Chinese whose crime is simply follow the Chinese Constitution's freedom of expression, religion, association, and speech?
And ask yourself, is this the kind of China that you want to continue to make money from?
(1) Why Google, Facebook, Twiter, Youtube, New York Times, and part of CNN are blocked in China?
(2) Why is Mr, Liu Xiao Bo, the 2010 Nobel Peace Price winner, still in jail?
And why so many other Chinese whose crime is simply follow the Chinese Constitution's freedom of expression, religion, association, and speech?
And ask yourself, is this the kind of China that you want to continue to make money from?
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Each day via digital TV smartly produced stations staffed by impeccably dressed Americans and English-speakers, owned by the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party and Putin's government broadcast into the U.S. How many U.S. stations broadcast into China in Mandarin and into Russia in Russia?
The typical 30-minute U.S. nightly news program is 15 minutes of commercials, 10 minutes of news about sports and entertainment, and maybe 5 minutes of local and national news.
Today there are more Chinese children studying in English in China than there are children in the all the English-speaking world studying English, and almost no children are learning Chinese.
Finally, every U.S. company, from Apple to Walmart, has its sweatshops in China.
The problem isn't China. The problem is the corporation leaders of the U.S.
Lenin: "We will hang the capitalists with the rope they sold us."
The typical 30-minute U.S. nightly news program is 15 minutes of commercials, 10 minutes of news about sports and entertainment, and maybe 5 minutes of local and national news.
Today there are more Chinese children studying in English in China than there are children in the all the English-speaking world studying English, and almost no children are learning Chinese.
Finally, every U.S. company, from Apple to Walmart, has its sweatshops in China.
The problem isn't China. The problem is the corporation leaders of the U.S.
Lenin: "We will hang the capitalists with the rope they sold us."
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And why does America have 25% of the world's prisoners with only 5% of it's people?
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Re Lenin's quote: as the Chinese are now raw capitalists this holds true for them as well.
A moment of vulnerability?
Thanks to Wall Street bankers and people like Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina, the Central Committee of the Chinese Community Party owns MOST of the U.S. economy.
We had better not make Dictator (not president) Xi Jinping mad!
Thanks to Wall Street bankers and people like Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina, the Central Committee of the Chinese Community Party owns MOST of the U.S. economy.
We had better not make Dictator (not president) Xi Jinping mad!
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This man represents an economy build on the destruction of the American industrial base, aided ironically by two seemingly antithetical economic/political systems- Communism and Capitalism.
American workers were sold out by politicians- Democrats & Republicans- funded by the business/financial interests looking for unregulated cheap foreign factory labor and off shore markets, and by the Chinese who cooperated by lending their vast store of cheap human capital to populate their export factory industrial economy.
The result is a Walmart America, increasingly devoid of the Middle Class & working unionized Industrial Class, and a Federal Govt. in hock to the Chinese for trillions.
So welcome home President Xi Jinping, to Chinatown America.
American workers were sold out by politicians- Democrats & Republicans- funded by the business/financial interests looking for unregulated cheap foreign factory labor and off shore markets, and by the Chinese who cooperated by lending their vast store of cheap human capital to populate their export factory industrial economy.
The result is a Walmart America, increasingly devoid of the Middle Class & working unionized Industrial Class, and a Federal Govt. in hock to the Chinese for trillions.
So welcome home President Xi Jinping, to Chinatown America.
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So well concluded. Americans are destroying themselves by their own, not by China, Russia or any other countries U.S claimed to be enemies.
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For a long time Americans were very happy to buy Made in China, and our politicians certainly answered that call to shop til you drop. Cheap clothes, designer knock-offs, and especially, the VERY inexpensive electronics, those screens that we watch almost every waking hour. Nobody thought about jobs lost in those glory daze of the big box store.
For one thing every American can stop shopping at Walmart…it's simple and effective…..we all have options. I never have bought anything from them and I never will.
Mr Xi, who insists on the primacy of the state regardless of long-term cost, visiting country where private corporations and oligarchs battle for primacy at all cost.
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The various governments in the US take up a third of all we make in taxes. Yet you still think it is coroporations and oligarchs. The only true oligarchs are the RNC and the DNC. Wkae up.
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So you don't like paying taxes - you're not alone in that juvenile attitude. Unfortunately, our political system has been largely co-opted by special interest groups, large corporation and the extremely wealthy. Too many of our elected officials seem to be serving such masters.
No Jim what I don't like is working a full third of the year to support a government that is overlarge, wasteful and corrupt. When you talk about the co-option of the government why did you leave out public employee unions and politicians. When you have an overbearing central government with it's nose in everything, where would you expect these people to go. That is where the money and the power is. That is why we need a dispersed government. It isn't money that corrupts, it is power.
From everything I've read here and in other pieces elsewhere, I get the impression that Xi and the rest of the Communist Party have no intention of negotiating on anything of any real substantial level or to 'play fair' on a range of topics from territorial rights to economic espionage - and that is their right I suppose. But if China is going to play hardball, as it has been for some years now, the US and specifically US leadership needs to respond in-kind. China's leadership care specifically about hard power, not their people's access to reruns of "Seinfeld".
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“The summit won’t produce progress on strategic matters.”
I wonder whether President Xi coordinated his visit to this country with that of the Pope in the hope that it remains low-grade news, since no spectacular results are to be expected. Everybody seems more obsessed with the Pope's visit.
I wonder whether President Xi coordinated his visit to this country with that of the Pope in the hope that it remains low-grade news, since no spectacular results are to be expected. Everybody seems more obsessed with the Pope's visit.
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“President Xi seems to be compensating by emphasizing China’s resurgent role in the world.”
That has often been said of many world leaders, including the US.
We ought to be wary that we do not come into conflicts whose primary driving force on each side is distraction from domestic issues that are harder to manage. That is so easy it is near automatic.
Chinese coastal waters as a focus of conflict is a case in point. If they are such a major power, ought we to be squabbling with them about our military coming as close as possible to their principle bases? Why?
Also, for cybersecurity agreements, they deny doing it. Wekeep secret whatever we are doing, except to hint that we "strike back." So long as they deny doing it, they don't have anything to agree to stop doing. Neither do we. This is a recipe to fight over an "agreement" that has not agreed on anything that matters. Day One starts with "you are in violations and we are not." That is not a deal, that is picking a fight. That is the same automatic distraction from more sensitive yet unsatisfactory domestic matters.
That has often been said of many world leaders, including the US.
We ought to be wary that we do not come into conflicts whose primary driving force on each side is distraction from domestic issues that are harder to manage. That is so easy it is near automatic.
Chinese coastal waters as a focus of conflict is a case in point. If they are such a major power, ought we to be squabbling with them about our military coming as close as possible to their principle bases? Why?
Also, for cybersecurity agreements, they deny doing it. Wekeep secret whatever we are doing, except to hint that we "strike back." So long as they deny doing it, they don't have anything to agree to stop doing. Neither do we. This is a recipe to fight over an "agreement" that has not agreed on anything that matters. Day One starts with "you are in violations and we are not." That is not a deal, that is picking a fight. That is the same automatic distraction from more sensitive yet unsatisfactory domestic matters.
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With the Pope, Mr Xi and the UN assembly ALL happening later this week in NY City, I am dreading the severe crowding, delays and security of every sort. Ugh.
As with everything China, they are in it for the long game and they see Obama as lame duck (because he is at this point) and mostly inconsequential to China's future.
As with everything China, they are in it for the long game and they see Obama as lame duck (because he is at this point) and mostly inconsequential to China's future.
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"Mr. Xi has amassed daunting power. He has taken control of the party’s most important policy committees. . . .. His prime minister and other colleagues have been relegated to cheerleading roles.
"Mr. Xi’s bustling, forceful approach was meant to yield bold and nimble governance after years of torpor and paralysis under his predecessors. But with so much authority concentrated in his hands, and such broad ambitions, the risks of bureaucratic confusion and overload are increasingly apparent"
For several generations now, the same has been true of the US. Policy is run from the White House instead of from the Departments.
Here too was done to overcome allegations of "torpor and paralysis."
Here too there are signs of "bureaucratic confusion and overload" not just in one Administration, but more and more as they come along.
Either the risks of that are worthwhile, or they are not. If they are, the Chinese are on the right path. If they are not, then we too are on that wrong path.
There are important issues here for us too, not just in competition with China.
"Mr. Xi’s bustling, forceful approach was meant to yield bold and nimble governance after years of torpor and paralysis under his predecessors. But with so much authority concentrated in his hands, and such broad ambitions, the risks of bureaucratic confusion and overload are increasingly apparent"
For several generations now, the same has been true of the US. Policy is run from the White House instead of from the Departments.
Here too was done to overcome allegations of "torpor and paralysis."
Here too there are signs of "bureaucratic confusion and overload" not just in one Administration, but more and more as they come along.
Either the risks of that are worthwhile, or they are not. If they are, the Chinese are on the right path. If they are not, then we too are on that wrong path.
There are important issues here for us too, not just in competition with China.
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The Obama Administration is impotent against this guy.
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We are a whole nation; if President Obama is impotent against President Xi than it is symptomatic of the utter dysfunction brought on by the whole of our political structure.
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Sorry, swm. When everyone is responsible, no one is. The president sets the country's course and creates its policies. This president doesn't even seem to be swimming in the same pond.
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I'm sorry it's this way too.
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"Mr. Xi is also not expected to accede to demands by the Obama administration"... why should he or anyone else?
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Because they totally depend on us for our innovations, ideas, product development, patents, etc etc. The Chinese concept of R&D is very simple: go online and cheaply copy the protected work of a westerner and ignore all patent & ™ laws.
For most of the past 2200 years China has been a world socioeconomic political educational scientific technological superpower. Over the last 40 years most of the world economic growth came from the Chinese economic and political reforms that brought 600 million Chinese out of poverty. China's slow turn to free market capitalism and commercial engagement with the world has had economic benefits. A term limited collective leadership is trying to stay in power within a one-party elite system that closely resembles the imperial Chinese past.
The rise of the West over the past 500 years was fueled more than anything else by ethnic Han Chinese xenophobia and hubris culminating in the twin disasters of World War II and the civil war victory of Mao Zedong. Japan killed 15-30 million Chinese during the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression aka World War II. Mao Zedong managed to kill at least another 10 million with his disastrous economic and cultural policies.
China is the most populous nation with the 2nd nominal GDP. But on a per capita economic basis China ranks about 80th near Bulgaria and Botswana. Economic growth in China has "slowed" from 10%+ to 7%. America can not even dream of such growth. America spends 3x China on it's military. America has 25% of the world's prisoners and is tied down in foreign civil wars.
The rise of the Central/Middle Kingdom can be a good thing for the Beautiful Country as America is known in Mandarin.
The rise of the West over the past 500 years was fueled more than anything else by ethnic Han Chinese xenophobia and hubris culminating in the twin disasters of World War II and the civil war victory of Mao Zedong. Japan killed 15-30 million Chinese during the Chinese People's War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression aka World War II. Mao Zedong managed to kill at least another 10 million with his disastrous economic and cultural policies.
China is the most populous nation with the 2nd nominal GDP. But on a per capita economic basis China ranks about 80th near Bulgaria and Botswana. Economic growth in China has "slowed" from 10%+ to 7%. America can not even dream of such growth. America spends 3x China on it's military. America has 25% of the world's prisoners and is tied down in foreign civil wars.
The rise of the Central/Middle Kingdom can be a good thing for the Beautiful Country as America is known in Mandarin.
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Your biggest mistake is to believe the economic figures coming out of China. China can make up numbers because basically they can.
The biggest fear in China IS their giant population. Too many people to keep in jobs and also fed. Famine was a major and tragic issue for China in the 20th century and it still concerns many there. And famine is what started the bloody revolutions there. Indeed as the Chinese domestic economy cools more, China has some potentially dark times ahead if jobs and salaries dissipate.
The biggest fear in China IS their giant population. Too many people to keep in jobs and also fed. Famine was a major and tragic issue for China in the 20th century and it still concerns many there. And famine is what started the bloody revolutions there. Indeed as the Chinese domestic economy cools more, China has some potentially dark times ahead if jobs and salaries dissipate.
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And this is the lesson we should take away. We too need jobs, need regular people to be employed. We need demand to keep the economy going, and good paying jobs to keep demand going. Things are going to get bad if we automate everything, and castigate most of the population for not having jobs and buying stuff.
The United States is in debt to China to the tune of 1.272 trillion dollars.
Xi Jinxing doesn't need to project any more power.
Xi Jinxing doesn't need to project any more power.
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How is the debt a problem for the US? If it needs to, the US can just print more dollars and pay it off. In fact, it seems that it should be China that's scared to the US doing that and making their bonds worthless.
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The U.S. economy is valued at approximately $19 trillion per year. The amount you cite is correct, but not concerning. Context is everything.
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The US can't print more$'s, what it can do is print more T-bills to pay for the ones are are maturing.
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I cant believe we even allow him here all China has done is stolen everything from us and yet we continue to allow it. America has sold its soul to China and China is laughing all the way to the bank at us.
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Stole it? We gave it to them in exchange for cheap labor. Isn't essentially everything Walmart sells made in China? Didn't Bain Capital and Mitt Romney make all their money outsourcing to China? Why blame the Chinese for taking advantage? Down here in South Carolina, our Republican Governor has decided that we taxpayers should front $400,000,000 dollars to build a factory for the Chinese to build Volvos here. In a right-to-work state, how may years do you think it will take in mediocre wages to get that money back? And how about all those hog farms we sold them in Virginia, conveniently close to Washington DC for spying or hacking into government operations!
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How pathetic, Mr Xi seems to think that dying his hair black and rattling his sabers that he is projecting an image of strength. It's just the opposite. It shows just how scared and insecure he is.
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As long as the USA continues to try avoid face-to-face confrontation against China's bullying behavior, Xi Jin Ping can claim victory at home. The US soft and vague China policy is the ultimate secruity of Xi Jing Ping's grab of power.
The thing is that this horse race analysis of everything is useless when it comes to strategic realities. This piece is depressingly shallow.
For fun, ask what Xi sees as the major contradiction. Follow up. Report. No?
Might learn something and have something worth saying. He is, I read, a commie after all, aside from being confident and having the upper hand and all. Nice suits too.
For fun, ask what Xi sees as the major contradiction. Follow up. Report. No?
Might learn something and have something worth saying. He is, I read, a commie after all, aside from being confident and having the upper hand and all. Nice suits too.
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