Tonight, the Ohio River flows with crocodile tears.
The citizens of the Buckeye State are so eager that a geographic feature in somebody ELSE'S state should be named for a favorite son (to whom few have likely given much though until President Obama forced them to), but in one-hundred and nineteen years apparently NOBODY in Ohio has ever raised a voice or lifted a finger to rename their highest point in THEIR OWN state (Campbell Hill, elevation 472 meters) after McKinley.
If they had, perhaps the bleating outrage accompanying those crocodile tears might ring with at least a murmur of truth but, as it is, it's as hollow as John Boehner's imprecations against Obamacare (whose expansion of Medicare has been embraced by John Kasich, Ohio's Republican governor).
The citizens of the Buckeye State are so eager that a geographic feature in somebody ELSE'S state should be named for a favorite son (to whom few have likely given much though until President Obama forced them to), but in one-hundred and nineteen years apparently NOBODY in Ohio has ever raised a voice or lifted a finger to rename their highest point in THEIR OWN state (Campbell Hill, elevation 472 meters) after McKinley.
If they had, perhaps the bleating outrage accompanying those crocodile tears might ring with at least a murmur of truth but, as it is, it's as hollow as John Boehner's imprecations against Obamacare (whose expansion of Medicare has been embraced by John Kasich, Ohio's Republican governor).
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This shows little except to confirm the continued descent of American politics into useless absurdity. The peak has long been called by both names and will continue to be, it is however a sign of overdue respect to give greater precedence to the original native name, which also happens to be much more apt. Anything said beyond that, by politicians, amounts to their wasting their time and taxpayers' money.
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I have climbed Denali. I have helped rescue climbers on Denali. This is what I call it and all who have attempted to climb it call it.
President McKinley had never heard of it.
President McKinley had never heard of it.
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Who was still calling it Mt. McKinley?
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Alaska's Republican lawmakers requested that Obama make the name change. He does. The National GOP is upset with him.
It makes me think all this opposition to Obama has always been solely political.
Could that possible???
It makes me think all this opposition to Obama has always been solely political.
Could that possible???
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J Morris hit the nail on the head. It was Denali long before McKinley was even born
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I can't help but cringe at the rude, disrespectful cheap shots smearing William McKinley for no apparent reason. Does it bother the politically correct cops out there that McKinley was the third president to be assassinated while he was in office??? It's sad that the 20th century began with the senseless murder of a president regardless of political party.
“McKinley was never even here” -- those of Washingtonians who still call DCA "National Airport" understand and heartily congratulate the fine people of Alaska.
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The irony of the upheaval is, that former US president William McKinley is in the limelight again, and that there is a renewed focus on what he accomplished during his presidency. It will help making Carl Roves book a bestseller.
According to Professor Anthony Corrado of Colby College, McKinley is also the original inspiration for the Wizard of Oz - "the man behind the curtain", as the story is an allegory based on the Election of 1896. FWIW, the Cowardly Lion is William Jennings Bryan....
Can we just stop naming things after politicians in the first place?
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Anything that causes John Boehner to be 'deeply disappointed' has got to be a good thing.
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They had the gall to rename the mountain after McKinley when it already had a name. Obama simply restored the old name. As usual, Boehner is trying to create a dust-up. I wonder if he knows how to actually do something meaningful.
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So didn't Shakespeare say it best: "What is in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." (para-phrased, of course) However, in Shakespeare's country naming is not seen as having the power it has in other countries. (See the failure of the English rugby team competing in the up-coming World Cup to have a cool nickname like Pumas or All Blacks or Springboks)
Living in a state which seems to name every mile of major roads and every public building over 1 story for prominent politicians and their friends (no matter what is found out about actual accomplishments or moral life decisions), I find the whole name-a-public bench-for-Ronald-Reagan type frenzy to be amusing since locals everywhere will continue to call the roads and buildings what they have always been called. And no politician's reputation will be sweetened by association with what he has given his name to (And yes, I am referencing the William (Bill) Young VA center which will always be known as the Bay Pines VA.)
Since recent Congresses were all known as the "Do-Nothing Congress of XXXX", I understand why the current Speaker is jealous of his power to name post offices, visitor centers, courtrooms and prominent geological sites.
It is unfortunate Mr. Boehner is not as concerned about the power given to Congress to declare or not to declare war or to even have that discussion.
Living in a state which seems to name every mile of major roads and every public building over 1 story for prominent politicians and their friends (no matter what is found out about actual accomplishments or moral life decisions), I find the whole name-a-public bench-for-Ronald-Reagan type frenzy to be amusing since locals everywhere will continue to call the roads and buildings what they have always been called. And no politician's reputation will be sweetened by association with what he has given his name to (And yes, I am referencing the William (Bill) Young VA center which will always be known as the Bay Pines VA.)
Since recent Congresses were all known as the "Do-Nothing Congress of XXXX", I understand why the current Speaker is jealous of his power to name post offices, visitor centers, courtrooms and prominent geological sites.
It is unfortunate Mr. Boehner is not as concerned about the power given to Congress to declare or not to declare war or to even have that discussion.
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To my many detractors out there--President William McKinley was also the victim of gun violence after his shocking assassination in 1901. Is it asking too much to leave the mountain named in his honor well enough alone? It's quite an irony of history that we're still shocked and saddened by the untimely murders of Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy but we've ignored the equally tragic deaths of William McKinley and James A Garfield who were also assassinated by some nut job with a gun.
Yes. The mountain is in Alaska. It was not "discovered" by the person who named it, it had been surveyed 2 years before.
It means a lot to Alaskans to have the original name returned. It is their state.
It means a lot to Alaskans to have the original name returned. It is their state.
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I suggest Ms. Steinhauer or your headline writer check with some Ohioans before she says we are "Fuming". We may be fuming about many things but not Denali getting its name back. I doubt there are that many Ohioans knew that Mt Mckinley was named after the assassinated President. I understand he was a good President and of course died a terrible death. But as far as I am concerned and I am sure most of my fellow Ohioans, you can be sure there will be no marches on Washington demanding President McKinley's name be written in the ice on the top of Denali. We will accept the change in our usual graceful way.
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Obama should next change to name of the Washington Redskins football team to the Washington McKinley's. That would nicely kill two birds with one stone.
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Of course boehner is upset about the decision. He is ALWAYS upset about any decision Obama makes....why would this be any different. If fact, I bet he would be upset of Obama gave him a gold toilet and seat.
The name should never have changed....did McKinley discover the mountain??? Of course not. Was he ever there? Of course not.
It should be changed back to the name the ancestors of the Alaska Natives gave it.
The name should never have changed....did McKinley discover the mountain??? Of course not. Was he ever there? Of course not.
It should be changed back to the name the ancestors of the Alaska Natives gave it.
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Really, people are really upset about this? I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the the radio this morning. With all the trouble and unrest in the world people are actually upset over the name of a mountain - will wonders never cease. I think the GOP just wants so complain about everything President Obama does - if he walked out on to the White House lawn and said the grass is green, they would find a reason to complain - they just don't want to give him an inch. The mountain was there long before McKinley or Alaska existed - the Alaskan people already call it Denali - it's in their state, let them decide.
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Is there really nothing more important for the people of Ohio to be concerned about?
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The people of Ohio aren't concerned with this and are happy to see the name changed back to Denali. It's the politicians that apparently have nothing better to do...
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President McKinley raised taxes to pay for a war. Imagine that. If the present crop Republican pols would follow his lead it would be a fine thing.
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For heaven's sake! This country has greater problems, and for the speaker to be dithering over this is beyond outrageous.
There are homeless, hungry and jobless people across the land. Congress needs to quit wasting time and getting paid to do nothing.
There are homeless, hungry and jobless people across the land. Congress needs to quit wasting time and getting paid to do nothing.
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Since Ohioans are so adept at making a mountain out of a molehill, why don't they find a nice molehill in Ohio and name it after McKinley?
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I can say with a 99.3% guarantee that over 90% of Ohioans don't care or even know about the name change. What is currently on our minds'? The Ohio State Buckeyes 2015 season.
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I was born and raised in Canton, Ohio, home of McKinley's tomb. I went to McKinley high school. I ran up and down the steps of his monument countless times in my youth. I'm fine with the name change, they were here first.
Get over it guys. Go solve some real problems.
Get over it guys. Go solve some real problems.
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You'd think the Speaker of the House would have more important issues on his plate than the name of a mountain in Alaska, but it appears that the very top of Speaker Boehner's agenda is attacking President Obama for removing the name of a man most historians consider a mediocre president from the highest peak in the United States. It is extraordinarily appropriate for this mountain to, once again, be named Denali, "The Great One."
Denali may not be among the world's tallest mountains in absolute height, but it is among the most majestic. The distance between the base and summit on Denali makes it one of the world's greatest sights for those fortunate to see it without the clouds it produces to shroud itself.
Denali may not be among the world's tallest mountains in absolute height, but it is among the most majestic. The distance between the base and summit on Denali makes it one of the world's greatest sights for those fortunate to see it without the clouds it produces to shroud itself.
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Now if only we could stop referring to the Dine people as "Athabascan" a term applied to them by invaders in their homeland, much the same way McKinley was.
It's a Cree place-name. Of course "Cree" isn't what the Cree call themselves either, but what the Ojibwa call them. How long would you like to chase this tail?
All around the world people speaking in other languages refer to people here in the US in words in their own language which may or may not coincide with "American"
Do you lie awake at night worrying about that, too?
All around the world people speaking in other languages refer to people here in the US in words in their own language which may or may not coincide with "American"
Do you lie awake at night worrying about that, too?
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As a climber who has made several first ascents on Denali as well as the first snowboard descent, I think the renaming of Denali is a fitting tribute to the Athabaskan people, native Alaskans as well as to climbers. Those Ohioans who are getting their panties up in a bunch over this seem to be doing so for political, narrow minded and selfish reasons. Showing humility and respect by honoring the real history of The Great One will go a long way.
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Assuming there are mountains in Ohio, why don't the Buckeyes name one of theirs for McKinney let and leave Alaska alone?
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It's simply "Denali". Not Mt. McKinely, not Mt. Denali. Just ask any Alaskan or those of us who have moved here from the Lower 48.
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We could have called it Mount Nobody. That's who McKinley was - Nobody.
It has always been Denali in Alaska. Let the Ohioans call it McKinley if they ever have occasion to refer to it.
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Denali's name should never have been changed in the first place.
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Fair is fair.
Alaska gets to rename the Ohio college football team to whatever they want, and Ohio has no say on the matter.
Alaska gets to rename the Ohio college football team to whatever they want, and Ohio has no say on the matter.
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The name change is a long time coming and really a tempest in a teapot. It makes us Alaskans feel good and gives certain politicians another chance to bash the President. Lets grow up folks and concentrate on real news like the Pope's visit.
NYT Please change the title...It is not the State of Ohio that is fuming to this change of name...
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To everyone from out of Ohio, please stop cutting down the state of Ohio and regular Ohioans for their alleged fuming. No one is fuming except for a few Republican politicians, and all they're capable of is fuming. But, please stop bashing the state and its 99.999% non-fuming people.
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Agree...I'm a former Buckeye and this is not warranted
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I'm a born and bred Ohioan, and you can count me among the non-fumers. On the other hand, there are certain Ohio politicians (you know who you are) that seem born to fume over all things Obama.
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Your good. You may want to try for some new politicians though...
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In the culture of climbing, you respect the local ethics of the area you are visiting. So, in respecting the local area of where the mountain is, you call it Denali, because that is what the locals call it. It is simple.
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Having skimmed this article, I get the impression there is a political consensus in Alaska to go ahead with this name change. And so what about States' Rights? Something which the Conservatives have always thought was terribly important, starting all the way back to 1788 the future anti-Federalists reluctantly signed on to the Constitution. I suppose they will argue that since it is a national park, it becomes a federal matter. Hmm! But nothing else is a federal matter, if they don't want it to be.
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ok, please explain whatever was your point, but this time do it in English so the rest of us can understand, hmm!
State rights re irrelevt on FEDERAL land.
Now begins the progressive democrats' long sought but as yet unstated objective to change the names of (or tear down) monuments named for people with whom their liberal elite constituency has some social disagreement. It will be interesting to see what happens to the Washington monument and the Jefferson memorial. Stay tuned.
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y'know, the Republican party of the late-1800s/early-1900s has a LOT more to do with the modern Democratic party than the modern Republican party...
McKinley was a progressive.
McKinley was a progressive.
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Uh, what?!? The stated objective here was to return the mountain to its "rightful" or original name, out of respect to the Native Americans who have lived there far longer than whites have. So, I assume that you are discerning a subtext demonstrating some kind of "progressive" agenda. OK, well, according to this article, at least, McKinley sought to work with Democrats in crafting legislation, and had other qualities so called Liberals might admire. That seems like a bad target to go after, if that is your objective. It would have been wrong to name the mountain Mt. Roosevelt or Mt. Reagan, and it was wrong to name it Mt. McKinley.
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I am a progressive Democrat and once dated a man named James. He trued me badly, so, I suggest we start our hithertofore-secret-to-all-but-you-John-Wayt-campaign to rename all things unpleasant in our world view with Jamestown, RI. I suggest we rename it RedskinReaganNationalMtMcKinley, RI. Just the thought of it makes me happy. Thank you, John Wayt for letting the secret out of the bag so that the fun could begin.
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Near the Vermont Presidential Range, there is a Vermont Mountain which we call Elephant Mountain or South Mountain. I propose it be renamed Mount McKinley. His name would join the other President's in the Vermont Presidential Range!
I was born and raised in Ohio, quite close to Canton, and am descended from McKinleys, though not the president. I'm very pleased to call the mountain by its real name, Denali.
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Reply to Deborah: Thanks for the correction. I think I have always said that phrase the wrong way.
I'm sorry that some Ohioans are upset about the renaming of the mountain. But, a gold prospector should not have been allowed to rename the mountain in the first place. The native Alaskans had called it Denali for ions since they lived there. The U.S. government in 1917 accepted the gold prospector's renaming and, essentially, disregarded the native term for the mountain. It was another example of cultural imperialism by the U.S. and its European ancestors. It is only right that the original name be restored.
Get over it Ohioans! Focus on football or rebuilding your state economy or something else instead.
Get over it Ohioans! Focus on football or rebuilding your state economy or something else instead.
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So basically McKinley never scaled this mountain and planted the Ohioan flag into the top? What's a Boehner to do?
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Sounds like McKinley liked his front porch.
Maybe the prospector was his designated dreamer: Go West, find some Native American sacred mountain, change its name to the porch guy's name, 100 years later John Boehner cries. Mission Accomplished.
Maybe the prospector was his designated dreamer: Go West, find some Native American sacred mountain, change its name to the porch guy's name, 100 years later John Boehner cries. Mission Accomplished.
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I have to laugh about comments and the mention in the article of the Ohio river. It actually is a misnomer. Along the entire state border the river is actually owned by Kentucky do to us having been a state longer.
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Actually, based on water volume, the Monongahela is a tributary to the Allegheny River, which is joined by the Mon in Pittsburgh to form what is called the Ohio River, and of rights ought to be named the Allegheny River.
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Think the headline should be changed from "Ohio Fumes" to " Ohio Republican Politicians Fume" over Rename of McKinley. Denali is a much more sensible name that arbitrarily honoring someone who has zero connection with the mountain.
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You would think that all Ohioans would have more respect for the given names of landmarks by indigenous people, especially considering that Ohio got it's name from the Iriqois.
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We absolutely do. Ohio is filled with rivers, cities, counties, and state parks bearing names from different native tribes. No one is outraged except the politicians.
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"The president's recent actions to remove his name and undermine a prior act of Congress is disrespectful..."
Disrespectful? If that's disrespectful what word would we use to describe the way we treated Native Americans? There is no argument here.
Disrespectful? If that's disrespectful what word would we use to describe the way we treated Native Americans? There is no argument here.
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Bid deal. Cape Canaveral was renamed Cape Kennedy for JFK, but he at least had something to do with the space program and the focus given it. I don't recall much of a stink, or any stink, when the name was changed back to Canaveral.
Much ado about nothing - Ohioans surely have better things to be concerned with; the rest of us certainly do.
Much ado about nothing - Ohioans surely have better things to be concerned with; the rest of us certainly do.
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Considering that Canaveral is a Spanish name and the Spanish weren't exactly the indigenous people living there, it's hard to see why Kennedy is worse.
Did someone say Kennedy was worse? It was done, I don't know the details, and it makes no difference to me.
That's okay. We whose ancestors who settled the colonies before the Revolutionary War have always known -- and will always know -- that beautiful mountain to be "McKinley".
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And those whose ancestors were here before your ancestors came to this land are proud and happy to have the mountain recogized by the name they gave it before the white man when north to Alaska.
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You are mispronouncing Denali, it's not Mc Kinley ( good man that he is ) , it's Denali, just practice it a few times.
As an Ohioan I have heard absolutely nothing negative about this...except from the national media. Maybe a few people in Canton are bent out of shape, but to say "Ohio Fumes" is an exaggeration as big as Denali.
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Mohondas - that weas my guess - that no one - but no one - in Ohio cares about this.
Maybe Boenher could name the highest mountain in Ohio after McKinley?
Maybe Boenher could name the highest mountain in Ohio after McKinley?
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As a misplaced Ohio native and Ohio State graduate, I say about time this change was made! Denali has always been the correct name and most of we frequent Alaska visitors have always known it. Good for the President!
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This is one of those issues which gets politicians worked up but makes zero difference to the average Ohioan.
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I am an Ohioan and I could care less that Denali Mountain is Denali mountain again. I would bet that if you asked any Ohioan when McKinley served as President and what is he noted for, they would all fail to answer your question. So IF there REALLY are Ohioans, besides the delegation in Washington, who really care, I would think you could count them on one hand.
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I'm sure you mean that you COULDN'T care less. Semantics aside, I am also an Ohioan, I I totally agree with your statement.
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A white man disrespected the American Indian culture and lore by renaming Denali Mountain after another white man, a Republican politician. President Obama honors Indians by returning their name. One of the Republican Clown Car presidential candidates, John Kasich, says he can see "no reason" for the change. "No reason," John?
Republican Speaker John A. Boehner says he is "deeply disappointed" that President Obama so honors the American Indian. Speaker Boehner, you would fit right into the Republican Clown Car - and there's room!
Republican Speaker John A. Boehner says he is "deeply disappointed" that President Obama so honors the American Indian. Speaker Boehner, you would fit right into the Republican Clown Car - and there's room!
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Some GOP politicians and a handful of others with specific interests in Pres. McKinley do not constitute Ohio fuming. Slow news day?
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Speaker Boehner is complaining about the name. I think if he climbs the mountain (I don't think there is a cigarette vending machine at the top) he should be allowed to keep the McKinley name.
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By way of recompense, this native born Ohioan gives the governor permission to rename any site in Ohio whose name stems from an indigenous language after McKinley. Scioto, Olentangy, Chillicothe, Wapakoneta -- there are many choices. Alternatively, Ohio can rename its highest spot, Campbell Hill at a whopping 1550 feet above sea level, Mount McKinley.
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I live in Ohio and I agree with the recent comments that this is really a complete non-issue. No no one I know even knows about it, much less cares.
Aside from the couple of politicians trying to play Rumpelstilskin and spin this straw into political gold, that is...
Aside from the couple of politicians trying to play Rumpelstilskin and spin this straw into political gold, that is...
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Informed people have called the mountain Mount Denali for over a century maybe millennia. And Denali National Park and Preserve was created close too one hundred years ago.
"The name of Mount McKinley National Park was subject to local criticism from the beginning of the park. The word "Denali" means "the high one" in the native Athabaskan language and refers to the mountain itself. The mountain was named after newly elected US president William McKinley in 1897 by local prospector William A. Dickey. The United States government formally adopted the name Mount McKinley after President Wilson signed the bill creating Mount McKinley National Park into effect in 1917. In 1980, Mount McKinley National Park was combined with Denali National Monument, and the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act named the combined unit the Denali National Park and Preserve. At that time the Alaska state Board of Geographic Names changed the name of the mountain to "Denali." However, the U.S. Board on Geographic Names did not recognize the change and continued to denote the official name as Mount McKinley. This situation lasted until Aug. 30, 2015, when President Barack Obama directed Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell to rename the mountain to Denali, using statutory authority to act on requests when the Board of Geographic Names does not do so in a "reasonable" time period."
"The name of Mount McKinley National Park was subject to local criticism from the beginning of the park. The word "Denali" means "the high one" in the native Athabaskan language and refers to the mountain itself. The mountain was named after newly elected US president William McKinley in 1897 by local prospector William A. Dickey. The United States government formally adopted the name Mount McKinley after President Wilson signed the bill creating Mount McKinley National Park into effect in 1917. In 1980, Mount McKinley National Park was combined with Denali National Monument, and the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act named the combined unit the Denali National Park and Preserve. At that time the Alaska state Board of Geographic Names changed the name of the mountain to "Denali." However, the U.S. Board on Geographic Names did not recognize the change and continued to denote the official name as Mount McKinley. This situation lasted until Aug. 30, 2015, when President Barack Obama directed Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell to rename the mountain to Denali, using statutory authority to act on requests when the Board of Geographic Names does not do so in a "reasonable" time period."
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Here's a reality check: If Mr. Regula is so certain about his righteous defense of "McKinley," then have him go to central Alaska and explain face to face to the Koyukons why they are wrong. Anything less by Mr. Regula is cheap banter from the rafters.
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When Hawaii became a state, almost all the English names of monuments, mountains, rivers and streets were changed to their Hawaiian names out of respect for the traditions and beliefs of the natives. There is no difference here. Its only 70 years late. In this poll crazy world, do one in Ohio and ask three questions.
1. Where is Mt. McKinley
2. Who was McKinley
3. Where was McKinley born
Ask any native Alaskan where is Denali and what does it mean.
Please publish your results
1. Where is Mt. McKinley
2. Who was McKinley
3. Where was McKinley born
Ask any native Alaskan where is Denali and what does it mean.
Please publish your results
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Since Denali means "The Big One" and "Mac" is short for McKinley, we could compromise and name it "De Big Mac"... That should fix things. Who could possibly be dissatisfied?
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Memo to Ohio: Rename the Ohio River after President McKinley. Otherwise, mind your business!
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So Obama risked alienating the 10 million people in Ohio in order to make the 500,000 in Alaska feel better about themselves. Hmmm...
Pretty much fits his milieu, ignore the will of the people, find a displaced minority with a good photo op (queue Majestic Mountain in the background, Oh wait, there it is on the NYT website, PRETTY!), give them what they want no matter how ridiculous, wait for the media adoration to pour forth, yet one more step on the way to the "Obama Monument" in Washington DC.
Fits his profile to a T. He even managed to find victims in Alaska, the most self-sufficient state in the Union. The man is a magician.
WR
Pretty much fits his milieu, ignore the will of the people, find a displaced minority with a good photo op (queue Majestic Mountain in the background, Oh wait, there it is on the NYT website, PRETTY!), give them what they want no matter how ridiculous, wait for the media adoration to pour forth, yet one more step on the way to the "Obama Monument" in Washington DC.
Fits his profile to a T. He even managed to find victims in Alaska, the most self-sufficient state in the Union. The man is a magician.
WR
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yet one more step on the way to the "Obama Monument" in Washington DC.
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Oh, no! With this precedent it would have to be in Hawaii
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Oh, no! With this precedent it would have to be in Hawaii
Hey, state's rights, right? You sound like someone big on that, at least when it suits you. Alaskans have wanted to rename a mountain in their state for some time, Ohioans mostly don't care. QED.
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wow, wellread (should you change your moniker to "watchesfoxnews"?, talk about grasping at straws to find something to complain about!
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I am from Obio and I couldn't be more pleased at the President's action. The point is that long before any prospector was happy that McKinley won the Republican nomination in 1896, that mountain had a name. It was disrespectful to ever name it McKinley. It's Denali, people!
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I work directly across the street from the Statehouse in downtown Columbus, Ohio. There is a statue of McKinley in front of the Statehouse. Not one person was "fuming" in protest near the statue yesterday. Pretty sure this is mostly just media/Speaker Boehner hyperbole.
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One can understand Karl Rove's love of McKinley. Like his former boss W., he started an unnecessary war based on phony evidence (the claim that the battleship Maine was blown up by the Spanish). His campaign in 1896 was funded by the wealthiest men in the country including Morgan and Rockefeller and it used the money to frighten voters away from voting for William Jennings Bryan, by far the most progressive candidate that had run for president up to that time. In many factories workers were informed that if Bryan was elected, they shouldn't come to work the next day because the businesses would shut down permanently. Considering that the country was just recovering from one of the worse depression in its history, it's no wonder this fear campaign worked.
One misleading thing in the article is about McKinley's campaign for president. It wasn't necessarily his "preference" to campaign from his front porch. Rather it was the tradition. In fact, in 1896 Bryan became the first candidate to campaign like a modern candidate does, traveling the country giving speeches.
One misleading thing in the article is about McKinley's campaign for president. It wasn't necessarily his "preference" to campaign from his front porch. Rather it was the tradition. In fact, in 1896 Bryan became the first candidate to campaign like a modern candidate does, traveling the country giving speeches.
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I'm from Ohio and I could care less about this issue. This mountain is in Alaska; they have the right to name it. Much ado about nothing.
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It's funny this Faux (Fox?) outrage, funny on several levels.
First of all, the people of Ohio couldn't care less and overwhelmingly support returning the name of our largest peak to it's original name. It is in Alaska, and that is what Alaskans overwhelmingly want.
Second, this makes me think about how Obama will be viewed 115 years from now, vs ignominius McKinnley (despite the protestations of Karl Rove). He will be viewed as one of Americas greatest Presidents, the first non-white President who stood up to the worst and nastiest obstructionism and contempt ever shown to a US President... and he was STILL successful in spite of the opposition. If you live that long, don't be sureprised to see Denali renamed Mt. Obama.
First of all, the people of Ohio couldn't care less and overwhelmingly support returning the name of our largest peak to it's original name. It is in Alaska, and that is what Alaskans overwhelmingly want.
Second, this makes me think about how Obama will be viewed 115 years from now, vs ignominius McKinnley (despite the protestations of Karl Rove). He will be viewed as one of Americas greatest Presidents, the first non-white President who stood up to the worst and nastiest obstructionism and contempt ever shown to a US President... and he was STILL successful in spite of the opposition. If you live that long, don't be sureprised to see Denali renamed Mt. Obama.
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Just wondering if John Boehner, Gov. Kasich and other affronted Ohio Republicans have ever thrown on a parka and visited their beloved mountain in Alaska? In person? Outdoors...? I am guessing probably not...
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Had Obama changed the name of Mt. McKinley to Mt. Reagan Republicans would be beside themselves because on one hand they hate Obama for anything he does but on the other hand any mention of Reagan brings them orgiastic joy and ecstasy. That's one conundrum I would love to see.
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It was bad enough that they named an airport for Reagan.
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I live in a City where many of the descendant of McKinley live. Wonder how they feel.
Mt. Denali and Denali National Park and Preserve. My understanding is that Mt. McKinley was named by the first person to climb that mountain. Why can't we have both? Is there room in our society for a McKinley National Park and Preserve? Why must everything have to end in controversy.
I respect the rights of Native people. What about the rights of American people? Is this not a job for Congress; where it rightfully belongs? Alaska deserves its Denali and McKinley deserves our respect.
Mt. Denali and Denali National Park and Preserve. My understanding is that Mt. McKinley was named by the first person to climb that mountain. Why can't we have both? Is there room in our society for a McKinley National Park and Preserve? Why must everything have to end in controversy.
I respect the rights of Native people. What about the rights of American people? Is this not a job for Congress; where it rightfully belongs? Alaska deserves its Denali and McKinley deserves our respect.
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"My understanding is that Mt. McKinley was named by the first person to climb that mountain."
That's not true, actually. The gold prospector who named it never climbed it. However, Hudson Stuck, co-leader of the first party that did climb it, actually did have some strong opinions on the matter. He talks about it in the preface of his book about the ascent:
"Forefront in the author's heart and desire, must stand a plea for the restoration to the greatest mountain in North America of its immemorial native name. If there be any prestige or authority in such matter from the accomplishment of a first complete ascent, 'if there be any virtue, if there be any praise,' the author values it chiefly as it may give weight to this plea."
That's not true, actually. The gold prospector who named it never climbed it. However, Hudson Stuck, co-leader of the first party that did climb it, actually did have some strong opinions on the matter. He talks about it in the preface of his book about the ascent:
"Forefront in the author's heart and desire, must stand a plea for the restoration to the greatest mountain in North America of its immemorial native name. If there be any prestige or authority in such matter from the accomplishment of a first complete ascent, 'if there be any virtue, if there be any praise,' the author values it chiefly as it may give weight to this plea."
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First, the person who suggested the name Mckinley did not climb it. Second, it is all Alaskans who have historically referred to Mt. Mckinley as Denali, not only natives, who, by the way, are American people too. Alaska as a whole has been lobbying for decades to make this change, and instead of hearing about how happy they are about it, the NYT has decided to run this story about how a few Republicans are finding fault with the change, as if anyone cares to hear more pointless Obama bashing from the proudly ignorant.
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Native people are American people too.... don't mean to be snarkie... but come on!
The Alaska mountain's name should be "Denali". The Republicans should force GM to rename the Denali SUV "the McKinley". And Mt Rumpke, the highest point in Hamilton County, Ohio, should be renamed "Mt McKinley".
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Perfect! If Ohio wants to honour McKinley, let them do so, in Ohio. Denali was Denali long before McKinley came along, and should have been left that way.
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Mt. Rumpke renamed Mt. McKinley? Perfect.
Mt. Rumpke (not kidding) is a mountain of garbage. There's a great song about it by a very clever songwriter named Papa Joe Kretschmer called "Mt. Rumpke Talkin' Blues" that tells the whole story. https://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/500666-papa-joe
Mt. Rumpke (not kidding) is a mountain of garbage. There's a great song about it by a very clever songwriter named Papa Joe Kretschmer called "Mt. Rumpke Talkin' Blues" that tells the whole story. https://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/500666-papa-joe
Why doesn't Ohio just name their highest mountain after McKinley?
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Speaking as an Ohioan, I am overjoyed that the proper name of Denali has been restored. I have always known that peak as Denali, and have always felt that calling it McKinley was misplaced from the start. I sincerely wish that my elected representatives would sit down and shut up about this.
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Why not rename it "Mount Denali-McKinley"? Then both the mountain's older and newer heritage is honoured, and this hyphenation could even serve as a symbol of equitable reconciliation between America's native and non-native peoples. (And if this new name is too wordy for everyday use, it could be nicknamed "Mount Denmac".)
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If you had read the story instead of making assumptions, you would have noticed that Alaskans as a whole call it Denali, and have been lobbying for years to have the name changed. Also, what is it about re-naming this mountain in Alaska after someone who was running for president and had never been there that strikes you as 'heritage'? It strikes me as arrogance.
I'm quite pleased with the actions of the President of late, I can't wait for the reaction of the right when Obama closes Gitmo on executive order.
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As a former resident of Alaska, the same of the mountain is Denali, and it is 4,000 miles away from here in Cleveland. All you Ohio Politicians, get over it, it was an inappropriate name given by some uneducated prospector.
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While he's at it, I wish Pres. Obama could take Ronald Reagan's name off of that airport which was ALREADY named after a President, i.e., WASHINGTON National! And for good measure take Billy Graham's name off of the (short) parkway named after him here in Charlotte.
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YES YES YES about Reagan airport...
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I live in Ohio but my home is really the Arkansas. I have probably called that rock Denali more often than I have called it Mt. McKinley. But I don't need an arrogant unilaterally acting president's permission and I'll call Mt. McKinley Mt. McKinley if I want to. The Community Organizer in Chief hasn't organized me yet.
Harrumph! sez you but I think your prospector guy with a shovel and a megaphone is your "arrogant unilateralist". Naming something that already had a name was the problem for the locals- since 1917 for the indigenous folks and since 1975 for Alaskans. Obama did the obvious thing to take off the tacked on name.
Now if Obama zooms out and renames the Arkansas then you will know how Alaska feels.
Now if Obama zooms out and renames the Arkansas then you will know how Alaska feels.
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I am a lifetime Ohio resident, and this mountain should be returned to its original name. If Ohioans want McKinley honored let them rename Campbell Hill. Quit punishing the indigenous people by placing US presidents on their holy sites.
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Leave it to Ohio to seize an issue like renaming Mount McKinley, produced a Speaker of the house who is a puppet for corporate America and a governor who is running as a presidential candidate who is against an abortion for a 10 year old raped by her stepfather. Where is the outrage regarding income inequality, a warped tax structure, minimum wage, underemployed and climate change? Read articles in Rolling Stone on Bernie Sanders, details how truly inept and convoluted Congress actually is on any issue.
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Ohioans may not understand that Alaskans call the mountain "Denali" whatever the maps may say. This just lines up maps with the linguistic reality of the people most connected to the reality. It's been disrespectful to Athabaskan heritage that we've insisted on calling it Mt. McKinley in recent history.
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I live in Ohio and I applaud the decision to restore the rightful name of Denali. I doubt that many normal Ohio residents really care one way or the other.
I think that the unity between Ohio politicians opposing this is just a distraction from the fact that most of them don't really care or act on the concerns of ordinary citizens. They spend their time on distractions like the name of a mountain on the other side of the continent rather than solving our real problems.
I think that the unity between Ohio politicians opposing this is just a distraction from the fact that most of them don't really care or act on the concerns of ordinary citizens. They spend their time on distractions like the name of a mountain on the other side of the continent rather than solving our real problems.
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Maybe the Ohio delegation can get GM to name a big SUV after him.
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Poor Mr. McKinley. I am sure he will get over it. He has been dead for over 114 years.
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I visited Denali park and took the winding bus trip up to the top to view the other worldly and majestic peak. When recounting this amazing trip to friends, I always forgot the name of that peak , and I think it was because it didn't fit to call it McKinley. It's name should be Denali, in honor of the beauty and unspoiled nature of Alaska.
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Really? You took a bus "up to the top"? You're kidding, right?
From Ohio here. Let's rename our Mad River Mountain to Mt McKinley.
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So which Ohioans are fuming other than Republicans who oppose everything Obama?. The headline seems to play right into the GOP penchant for finding a "scandal" around every corner. In this light I am sure that there will be Congressional hearings over the name change!
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I live in Ohio, and I applaud the change from McKinley to Denali. Long overdue. If Buckeyes want to rename something for McKinley, how about our state capital? Columbus never visited Ohio, did he?
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If the people of Ohio like McKinley so much, change the name of your state to honor him, don't force someone else to do it against their will. Welcome to the State of McKinley.
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We are seeing new depth in how low John Boehner will go to get in a dig at President Obama.
I grew up in Ohio. I do not remember the State honoring McKinley. I only remember historical mention that he was assassinated and Teddy Roosevelt became President.
The press should ask Boehner if he visited the grave of McKinley to pay his respects the last time he was in Canton.
I grew up in Ohio. I do not remember the State honoring McKinley. I only remember historical mention that he was assassinated and Teddy Roosevelt became President.
The press should ask Boehner if he visited the grave of McKinley to pay his respects the last time he was in Canton.
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Relax Canton or he'll change the name of Ohio back to its original: "The Western Reserve of Connecticut".
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This outcry is a specious yell by some who will never realize the affront we as a people brought and continue to bring to those whose bodies and lands we greedily appropriated.
"efforts to please" be those directed toward Native Americans or descendants of imported slaves will never bring about the results desired by those who acknowledge no fault in our past and continuing history.
"efforts to please" be those directed toward Native Americans or descendants of imported slaves will never bring about the results desired by those who acknowledge no fault in our past and continuing history.
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The headline should read "Republicans in Ohio." I was born in Ohio fifty-five years ago, and my family lived there a century before that, and I'm delighted that Denali now officially bears the name it has always really had. If you're looking for presidential peaks, try New Hampshire -- they've got plenty of them.
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Why don't they rename one of those bumps in Ohio, like Campbell Hill in Bellefontaine, after McKinley and stop worrying about Alaska?
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If Ohioans believe so strongly in their McKinley, it would make sense for them to honor the former President by renaming Canton, to something like McKinleyville.
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Tough toenails. This was a good thing to do. Since I was a boy I wondered why this remote mountain memorialized such an apparently forgettable president. Bravo!
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I'm an Ohioan and I'm way more concerned with our crumbling infrastructure, the algae blooms that left Toledo without drinking water last year and the heroin epidemic tearing it's way through the state. I expect this kind of nonsense from Republican panderers like Boehner and Turner but I find it disgusting that Tim Ryan has chosen to add his name to this waste of time and energy.
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We only renamed Cape Canaveral after the late President Kennedy for a short time in honor of his Presidency and his call to Space Exploration. Why should Mt. Denali be any different? Presidents come and go, but the native history of local geographic features endures. Perhaps John Boehner could find a landmark closer to home to worry about for his own legacy. Does Ohio have any landmarks?
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I am from Ohio, and we have 8 Presidents to name mountains after, so what is the issue?
Republicans are complaining because it's something that President Obama did, so you must complain, or you are not a Republican, it's that simple.
Who needs to govern when you can sit back and complain about the current POTUS.....
Republicans are complaining because it's something that President Obama did, so you must complain, or you are not a Republican, it's that simple.
Who needs to govern when you can sit back and complain about the current POTUS.....
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I live in Ohio and this is the first I've heard of this. Yes, we do have more pressing issues in this state than the name of a mountain 3000 miles away. Am I really awake?
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This is another example of partisan politics at its worst! Fans of McKinley should be pleased that he no longer stands as a symbol of white oppression and exploitation of Native Americans. Really, a President, who never set foot in the state, is more important than the native people who have revered Denali for centuries? Those arguing against the renaming are simply embarrassing themselves and McKinley.
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Yes, exactly what did President McKinley do anyway, besides trying to satisfy his sheer gluttony and insatiable appetite for all things gourmet? Besides it's Alaska's property and not Ohio's. And please, it's so like Speaker of the House John Boehner, Republican Congressman from Ohio, to enter the fray in typical "bobble head" fashion, stoking the fires of antagonism against President Obama, always looking well tanned from his hours on the links and accomplishing absolutely nothing in his tenure. Long live Denali.
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While Obama is renaming things, could he please do something to get the name of Reagan off of National Airport in DC? It is and will always be to me simply "National".
As for McKinley, I suspect that up to now, most Ohioans didn't even recognize the name.
As for McKinley, I suspect that up to now, most Ohioans didn't even recognize the name.
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I'll sign the petition a hundred times over if required! I remember the hostile renaming of DCA by a GOP held congress with threats to withhold funding for METRO if the name were not changed... pathetic overtures by the GOP and now this renaming rather, returning to the Native American culture, Denali...
Thank you Mr. President Obama.
Thank you Mr. President Obama.
I am sorry, but while I support the renaming of the mountain to Denali, I do not support the contempt shown towards Ohio. Ohio is the birthplace of McKinley an it is perfectly understandable that they are dismayed by the change.
Why have people lost the art of saying, "I disagree with you but respect your views?"
Why have people lost the art of saying, "I disagree with you but respect your views?"
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Chill out Rohit. No one is "showing contempt for Ohio." 95% of the comments here are in praise of the change to Denali, if you want to take that as contempt for Ohio that is your own sensitivity. As for real contempt, yes, for politicians playing for local political points in Ohio and of course any excuse to trash President Obama.
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Respect is not defined by disrespecting others.
Denali is the true and proper name of that mountain. No one is disrespecting or showing the least bit of contempt to Ohio.
Sometimes, people make mistakes.
Denali is the true and proper name of that mountain. No one is disrespecting or showing the least bit of contempt to Ohio.
Sometimes, people make mistakes.
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Stacy, you misunderstood me. Changing the name to Denali is not showing disrespect to Ohio. But some of the postings here, ARE disrespectful just as BD's "Chill out Rohit" is disrespectful".
And I see a lot of attacks on Republicans even though both Republicans and Democrats in Alaska support the renaming and both Republican and Democratic politicians in Ohio are opposed to it.
Anyway, now that we have renamed the peak, ill treatment of native Americans will continue. If they ask why they are a marginalized group they will be told, "We renamed the peak. Be content with that."
Here is US News: "Graduation Rates Dropping Among Native American Students. Latino and black students are gaining ground, but American Indians are slipping, a new report shows."
And I see a lot of attacks on Republicans even though both Republicans and Democrats in Alaska support the renaming and both Republican and Democratic politicians in Ohio are opposed to it.
Anyway, now that we have renamed the peak, ill treatment of native Americans will continue. If they ask why they are a marginalized group they will be told, "We renamed the peak. Be content with that."
Here is US News: "Graduation Rates Dropping Among Native American Students. Latino and black students are gaining ground, but American Indians are slipping, a new report shows."
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Another Buckeye checking in to report the absence of outrage by anyone outside of the grandstanding political class.
On the other hand, if these people propose renaming that peak Mt. LeBron, we ordinary people might get interested.
On the other hand, if these people propose renaming that peak Mt. LeBron, we ordinary people might get interested.
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If Alaska officially renamed the mountain in 1975, the Congress' inability to accept the change via a "yes" or "no" vote for 40 years appears to be the important fact.
Ohio Republicans blocked the (Republican) bill from a vote because the vote would (always) have been overwhelmingly in support of Alaska.
Ohioans seem to have one knee-jerk response to government -- shut down Congress.
Ohio Republicans blocked the (Republican) bill from a vote because the vote would (always) have been overwhelmingly in support of Alaska.
Ohioans seem to have one knee-jerk response to government -- shut down Congress.
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Can anyone make a case that McKinley was America's greatest president? If not, what inherent right does McKinley have to the name of the highest peak in America? To the relatively few Ohioans who are making all the fuss, far out of proportion to their numbers: Get over it.
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Most Ohioans don't care. They couldn't pick out McKinley in a lineup, let alone tell you anything about the man. Most don't even know that the Ohio River is actually owned by Kentucky. Wait until Kentuckians seek a name change, then you'll see manufactured bluster and outrage.
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McKinley was a tool of the Gilded Age plutocrats who were for the gold standard that was the "Cross of Gold" the populists of the day hated, along with the Trusts McKinley represented. His assassination allowed TR to take over and become one of our best presidents by breaking up the Trusts that were destroying our democracy. The people of Ohio also ought to be ashamed of McKinley's jingoistic Spanish-American War and his ruthless annexation of the Philippines IMO.
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So fitting for Republicans to be on the wrong side of an issue having to do with a minority. The name Ohio (ohi-yo) is Iroquois for "large creek". Perhaps Mr. Boehner could set things right by renaming it (or the river, or whatever) "McKinley".
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Why not rename Ohio itself, the state? After all, we have a state known as Washington, and there are many towns known as Lincoln, and some counties known as Jefferson, and perhaps a Madison. Just imagine, the election returns in the future proclaiming that the next president of the United States only won, because McKinley's electoral votes made the difference. Wow!
Ohians can go name the tallest peak in Ohio for any person they wish...wait a minute how tall is the tallest peak in Ohio...a grand 1550 ft! Maybe that's why they seem so peevish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Hill_(Ohio)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_Hill_(Ohio)
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Why can't we learn to leave well enough alone? First there's this tussle over yanking Hamilton off the $10 bill to be replaced by a yet undisclosed woman. Suddenly Andrew Jackson isn't good enough to stay on the $20 because it's been discovered he isn't a paragon of perfection either. Now Mt McKinley has to be renamed Denali? Why? Political correctness ruins everything.
That Jackson, were he alive, would be tried as a war criminal is a more serious problem for him than not being a "paragon of perfection".
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"Political Correctness"
The standard response to being called out for being on the wrong side of social change. In this case, Sharon 5101 feels that the wishes of the original residents (and most Alaskans from what I can tell) are just ruining Alaska.
Andrew Jackson was responsible for the Indian Removal Act of 1830 which led to the disgraceful Trail of Tears. All presidents have had their share of faults and none were paragons of virtue. Not all have had such a racist, nearly genocidal event in their c.v. Perhaps recognizing that this one thing is enough to get him off our nation's money is just ruining everything but I think not.
The standard response to being called out for being on the wrong side of social change. In this case, Sharon 5101 feels that the wishes of the original residents (and most Alaskans from what I can tell) are just ruining Alaska.
Andrew Jackson was responsible for the Indian Removal Act of 1830 which led to the disgraceful Trail of Tears. All presidents have had their share of faults and none were paragons of virtue. Not all have had such a racist, nearly genocidal event in their c.v. Perhaps recognizing that this one thing is enough to get him off our nation's money is just ruining everything but I think not.
Sharon, all three things you named are examples of a changing world, and recognition where it is deserved. Your "PC" is another's justice. You don't like it? Tough beans.
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As a Democratic Buckeye, born and raised in Ohio, I agree with the decision of President Obama to change the name of Mount McKinley to Mount Denali. Anyone who has visited Denali Park in Alaska should understand the logic of returning to the name by which the mountain has always been called locally, dating back to long before a miner decided to re-name it informally after the new Republican presidential nominee.
President William McKinley was self-made man, and was the last president to have fought in the Civil War. He was actually a very good president – not merely a porch potato who was sold to voters by the wealthy Clevelander, Mark Hanna. A visit to his monument, library and museum in Canton is worth one’s time.
McKinley deserves to be remembered and honored by the country, and many of us Ohioans – regardless of party affiliation – would enthusiastically support such a move. Perhaps Cincinnati could be re-named McKinley, Ohio.
President William McKinley was self-made man, and was the last president to have fought in the Civil War. He was actually a very good president – not merely a porch potato who was sold to voters by the wealthy Clevelander, Mark Hanna. A visit to his monument, library and museum in Canton is worth one’s time.
McKinley deserves to be remembered and honored by the country, and many of us Ohioans – regardless of party affiliation – would enthusiastically support such a move. Perhaps Cincinnati could be re-named McKinley, Ohio.
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As an American I agree with the name being changed back to Denali.
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Yes, renaming a mountain in Ohio would seem to be the best thing. Except, wait! There ARE no mountains in Ohio. If you wish to call a slight rise or roll in the topography a mountain, then go for it. Obama did the right thing. Good for him.
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Could the Times please skip the hyperbolic headlines and get back to accuracy. Ohio doesn't "fume" over this. A few politicians do.
I would bet that many, if not most folks, from Ohio could not care less about the issue, presuming they even consider it an issue at all. I expect Ohioans' "fuming" is reserved for more substantive matters, such as health care, immigration, jobs, and politicians who spend more energy posturing about the name of a mountain in Alaska than attending to the business of the citizens of Ohio.
It's a sad commentary on our times that such a non-issue even becomes a political matter. I suppose that if the politicians were not so afraid of dealing with issues of substance, they might find something better to do with their time and feigned outrage than claim this as a partisan, states rights, or executive overreach issue.
I would bet that many, if not most folks, from Ohio could not care less about the issue, presuming they even consider it an issue at all. I expect Ohioans' "fuming" is reserved for more substantive matters, such as health care, immigration, jobs, and politicians who spend more energy posturing about the name of a mountain in Alaska than attending to the business of the citizens of Ohio.
It's a sad commentary on our times that such a non-issue even becomes a political matter. I suppose that if the politicians were not so afraid of dealing with issues of substance, they might find something better to do with their time and feigned outrage than claim this as a partisan, states rights, or executive overreach issue.
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I suppose it's one more executive decision for the Republicans to vow to overturn 'once they retake the White House'!
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Perhaps, to show his sincerity, Mr. Beohner can persuade his friends in Congress to rename the Cuyahoga River, or Cuyahoga Falls, after President McKinley.
Yeah, I thought so.
Yeah, I thought so.
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Repubs are big into naming things after Repub politicians.
There are at least 100 major public landmarks named or renamed for Reagan. So far.
There are at least 100 major public landmarks named or renamed for Reagan. So far.
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I think some Ohioans are suffering from elevation envy: The two highest "mountains" in Ohio are Campbell Hill at 1543 ft and Mt. Miserable at 1486 ft.
Miserable, indeed.
Miserable, indeed.
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The mountain has had a name for centuries, Denali. That is fact.
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As a Buckeye native who proudly attended McKinley Jr. High School, I officially have no problem with this renaming.
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Something else for Boehner to cry about. I guess it makes it easier for him to stop anything constructive from getting done.
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Repubs are all for States' rights; except when they are not.
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Perhaps the Ohio Congressional delegation would feel a bit better about this if the administration assured them the "renaming" of the mountain is to honor an American-made SUV.
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The article fails to mention that "every year, since 1965, the same story has played out in Washington, D.C.: Alaska legislators sometimes file bills to change the name from Mount McKinley to Denali, and every year, someone in the Ohio congressional delegation -- the home state of the 25th President William McKinley -- files legislation to block the name change."
Or that Alaska changed the name of the mountain to Denali in 1980.
Only the GOP can block a State's request for 40 years. And then call the President a dictator.
Or that Alaska changed the name of the mountain to Denali in 1980.
Only the GOP can block a State's request for 40 years. And then call the President a dictator.
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This is just another front in the culture war that will probably turn into a shooting civil war sometime down the road. Sadly, what the President, who I voted for twice, has done is take a mountain that belong to all of us and gave it to one tribe in one state. That is sad. They park was named aptly as was the Mountain. No need to take the mountain away from representing all of Americans and give it to only a few but that is what the new left is all about. Not equality but rather about picking one over the other in the name of respect. But what about the respect for the greater idea of the nation that surpasses one tribe, race or ethnicity? That is something that Obama just doesn't get.
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When I was in Alaska in 1978 looking at Mt. Denali in the National Park, nobody called it anything but that during my 3 weeks there. Mr. McKinley was in the ash heap of history even 37 years ago. This is long overdue. Ohio should simply name a state highway after him. And at the same time Texas should name a fetid swamp after GWBush.
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It's quite possible that William McKinley's greatest achievement was getting assassinated. Certainly McKinley wasn't Ohio's most distinguished or accomplished politician, let alone person. If Ohioans really want to honor McKInley, I'd suggest they rename the state for him or possibly even rename their largest public university for him. That would be far more meaningful than the name of a mountain peak in Alaska. And, yes, Denali it was and always should have been.
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There's a very easy solution to this for Ohioans.
You can build something really grand and tall in Canton, Ohio where President McKinley is buried, and put his name on it.
You could even do what Las Vegas does (with their Empire State Building/Statue of Liberty/Eiffel Tower tributes) -- build a scale model of the mountain, then add some ski trails, and put it next to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Ka-ching. Why should Alaskans reap the tourist dollar associated with an Ohioan? According to mapquest Mt. McKinley is 3,900 miles from Canton. Think of the gas money and tolls you'll save.
The name was never a proper fit, and just because we memorized it as kids in school doesn't mean we can't see the error of our ways. Did Pluto go all nuclear when he was renamed a dwarf planet nine years ago?
No, Pluto adjusted. I think of it as a planette. But I digress.
I applaud President Obama for following through on this for the people of Alaska. Just because WE in the east didn't know Alaskans have been trying for years to have the name restored doesn't mean it's not important to the people who actually live there.
Try to look at it from an Alaskan's point of view -- if they are very happy about this there might be a reason why a mountain shouldn't be named after someone who never got within a thousand miles of it.
Give Alaskans their props. Mount Denali it is.
You can build something really grand and tall in Canton, Ohio where President McKinley is buried, and put his name on it.
You could even do what Las Vegas does (with their Empire State Building/Statue of Liberty/Eiffel Tower tributes) -- build a scale model of the mountain, then add some ski trails, and put it next to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Ka-ching. Why should Alaskans reap the tourist dollar associated with an Ohioan? According to mapquest Mt. McKinley is 3,900 miles from Canton. Think of the gas money and tolls you'll save.
The name was never a proper fit, and just because we memorized it as kids in school doesn't mean we can't see the error of our ways. Did Pluto go all nuclear when he was renamed a dwarf planet nine years ago?
No, Pluto adjusted. I think of it as a planette. But I digress.
I applaud President Obama for following through on this for the people of Alaska. Just because WE in the east didn't know Alaskans have been trying for years to have the name restored doesn't mean it's not important to the people who actually live there.
Try to look at it from an Alaskan's point of view -- if they are very happy about this there might be a reason why a mountain shouldn't be named after someone who never got within a thousand miles of it.
Give Alaskans their props. Mount Denali it is.
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I live in Ohio. I don't care. I'm fine with Mount Denali. McKinley's biggest achievement was to get shot by an anarchist and die, enabling TR to become President.
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“Some people are saying, ‘What did President McKinley do anyway?’
So often wondered the same thing. I need to spend more time in Ohio, obviously.
So often wondered the same thing. I need to spend more time in Ohio, obviously.
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Please forgive me but this seems silly. Aren't there more pressing things to be concerned about in Ohio? In the nation? In the world?
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I can understand why some Ohioans are disappointed with the decision to restore the name of North America's highest peak to its Athabaskan origins.
William McKinley had many fine qualities. He was a foe of slavery, a defender of workers, an honorable leader, and a devoted husband. He was a politician, of course, but he sounded like one we might refreshingly welcome today. If you're going to name a mountain for a President, he was a probably a good choice.
But the essence of this mountain can't be captured by a person's--even a distinguished person's--name. This is a mountain you REACT to. Thousands of years ago Alaska's first inhabitants stood in awe of its massive bulk of jumbled snow and rock, rising like a continent from the broad interior plain.
The name they gave it was a reaction to its magnificence.
Regardless of what the USGS has labelled it on maps for the last 112 years, we say the same today as those first settlers when we are in its presence: GREAT mountain! *Denali!*
I think William McKinley would have said the same.
William McKinley had many fine qualities. He was a foe of slavery, a defender of workers, an honorable leader, and a devoted husband. He was a politician, of course, but he sounded like one we might refreshingly welcome today. If you're going to name a mountain for a President, he was a probably a good choice.
But the essence of this mountain can't be captured by a person's--even a distinguished person's--name. This is a mountain you REACT to. Thousands of years ago Alaska's first inhabitants stood in awe of its massive bulk of jumbled snow and rock, rising like a continent from the broad interior plain.
The name they gave it was a reaction to its magnificence.
Regardless of what the USGS has labelled it on maps for the last 112 years, we say the same today as those first settlers when we are in its presence: GREAT mountain! *Denali!*
I think William McKinley would have said the same.
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The mountain was named Mount McKinley by Congress in 1917 as the article points out. It should not be up to the president to unilaterally rename it. While the name of the mountain may be inconsequential to all but a few, the method used to change the name poses huge questions for how this nation will be governed now and in the future.
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Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. This was not done unilaterally and it does not pose an existential threat to our nation (though other things like, say, climate change, actually do). It's not like this was done on a whim.
Since we cannot rely on the Congress to do anything consequential, it makes more sense for the leader of our government to recognize the restoration of the mountains name rather than turning it into a political act where anyone seeking a microphone renders an opinion.
It appears to me that he un-named it.
As a former history teacher and life long resident of Ohio for 69 years I will offer my view. The immigrants who came to America took much from native Americans, including their lives. Returning the name of a mountain is a tiny sliver of what was taken.
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Sir, you hit the nail squarely on the head. Thank you!
A small retribution for Boehner stonewalling Obama for the past 7 years.
If Rove is against it, even better.
If Rove is against it, even better.
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Maybe a visit to the northwest corner of California will help to soothe the pain of Ohioans, and maybe even replace the tears with a smile on Speaker Boehner’s face. Here they will be treated to vast ocean vistas, magnificent, towering old-growth redwoods, hillsides lushly covered in ferns and close-up views of elk that often block parts US Highway 101. After taking in the natural beauty of the area, they can pay homage to our 25th president by visiting the lovely, little town of Arcata where they will find a bronze statue of President McKinley prominently displayed in the town’s central plaza.
Jim M.
McKinleyville, CA
Jim M.
McKinleyville, CA
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Arcata... my home!
I'm from Ohio. I"m fuming...but for the usual reasons. Boehner and Kasick are making Ohio look bad again. It IS bad, but now we have to look like whiners over a native name for a mountain most Ohioans probably didn't know existed until our government "leaders" made a fuss? Yeah, not so much. Quit slandering Ohioans--we have enough to live down already!
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While this appears much ado about nothing, there appears to be a larger issue of importance which is the inability of Congress to make meaningful changes when required. What we see here is that a few congressmen can stop reasonable policy changes for years and it requires a concerted effort from the President to make change. And this is such a minor issue when there are numerous critical issues that need to be addressed. What can be done to break the logjam called Congress?
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What can be done? Either get the conservatives out of Congress or put a conservative in the White House. Considering the repressive legislative agenda of the conservatives, the former is preferred...
I'm from Ohio, not far from Niles where McKinley was born, and I don't personally know anyone who is upset about renaming the mountain. I have heard casual positive comments about the name change. Nobody is making a big deal about this except media and people who want more needless drama in their lives.
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With less than 17 months left in his time as president, Obama has finally solved the riddle of rallying Republican support for his legislation. I think he should immediately rename Obamacare as McKinleycare (I’m no Karl Rove on McKinley but I’m almost dead certain the late president was against illness).
Then let’s watch House Speaker Boehner and his Republican colleagues, at least those in Ohio, finally get on board with the Affordable Healthcare Act.
Then let’s watch House Speaker Boehner and his Republican colleagues, at least those in Ohio, finally get on board with the Affordable Healthcare Act.
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And you can bet that McKinley was an instant convert to anti-handgun legislation and background checks!
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Maybe they should change the name of the park back to McKinley National Park.
Ohio is not fuming, Ohio Republicans are making a fuss. Most of the state doesn't know who McKinley was or cares. And most of us certainly don't remember the Maine.
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I climbed Mt. McKinley in July, 1991. It is not obvious until you reach the summit that there is the phenomenon of a duplicate peak, of lower -- but significant -- elevation. I have experienced similar dueling peaks on Mounts Kilimanjaro (Tanzania) and Elbrus (Russia). So, why not reach a political truce in officially re-naming the highest point on the North American continent to the people and the adjacent, lower elevation massif pinnacle of the Alaska Range to the politician? (Okay, of the highest political order, the president). Let's put the people first!
Restore "Denali" and put McKinley on the $20 bill with someone else of the $500 bill.
There's enough monuments, statues, schools, roads and buildings with McKinley's name within the state of Ohio without getting the knickers all in a twist over a far off and remote snow-capped peak located 4 times zones to the West and outside the continental United States...
There's enough monuments, statues, schools, roads and buildings with McKinley's name within the state of Ohio without getting the knickers all in a twist over a far off and remote snow-capped peak located 4 times zones to the West and outside the continental United States...
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This all sounds like a lot of false outrage to me. After all, that mountain has been known as Denali far longer than it was known as McKinley.
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The good people of Ohio should be more concerned with Shell drilling in the Arctic and the destruction that could cause than with the name of a mountain that they've never seen.
I suspect that most of them do.
I suspect that most of them do.
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As someone born and raised in Ohio, I couldn't care less about the name of a mountain in Alaska. I would say that, for the most part, Ohioans don't care.
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My parents are from a third constituency- those who have climbed Denali to the summit and made it down safely. My mom was one of the first women to traverse the mountain- to go up one side and down the other. Both of them are wholeheartedly in favor of calling the mountain Denali.
But they live in California...
But they live in California...
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Does seem odd that the president now has the authority to rename geological features, but if people in Ohio want McKinley, they can elect a Republican president to change the name back. At the same time, he could rename the Mississippi River the Ronald Reagan River.
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The Native American Repatriation Act of 1990 requires federal agencies and institutions return Native American "cultural items" to lineal descendants and culturally affiliated Indian tribes and Native Hawaiian organizations. Cultural items include human remains, funerary objects, sacred objects, and objects of cultural patrimony. Why would a mountain be exempt? Welcome home, Denali!
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Ohio in a twist? Nonsense! Ohio has issues, but whether a mountain is named after the president of a century ago isn't one of them! An excuse to criticize Pres Obama maybe, but if not this then something else.
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“We are happy for them. It’s their mountain. It’s just a little bit sad.”
It is sad that they get to restore the name of their mountain?
It is sad that they get to restore the name of their mountain?
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Everyone here in Alaska already calls it Denali. Let Ohio name one of their own mountains after McKinley.
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Ohio is fuming? Really? Was a poll taken in Ohio on this issue? I suspect most Ohioans either support the change or don't really care. Either way the mountain returns to its rightful native name. If Ohio really wants to honor the 25th President, they can rename something in their own state, preferably of human construction such as an airport, bridge, highway or skyscraper.
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Ohio legislators need to stop wasting their time over inconsequential matters and concentrate on serving the constituents who elected them as well as the nations interests.
The lower 48 had no more right to rename Mt. Denali than the British had in renaming Mumbai, India as Bombay. An act of imperialist hubris that has fortunately been corrected, just as has Mt. Denali.
The lower 48 had no more right to rename Mt. Denali than the British had in renaming Mumbai, India as Bombay. An act of imperialist hubris that has fortunately been corrected, just as has Mt. Denali.
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Judging from past experience, anything that causes John Boehner to say "I'm deeply disappointed " can only be a good thing.
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Rename Lake Superior to Gichi-Gami!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/change-name-lake-superior-gic...
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/change-name-lake-superior-gic...
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yes! yes! I have forwarded to all friends and family. As a Michigander I fully support returning all native names to all landmarks. Its was their land, at least name it so!
Ironically, the Mt. McKinley name was approved by that that other "progressive" Democrat, Woodrow Wilson in 1917.
Politicians like Boehner are so out of touch that they apparently can't fathom why it might be offensive (or just plain wrong) to some that a sacred Native American mountain was renamed for a U.S. president. Senator, please discover your heart and your brain.
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Technically, Mr. Boehner is the Speaker and a congressman in the House of Rep. Just saying
Oops. That's what I get for posting at 1 am.
Perhaps, to provide some balm for their wounds, Ohio's remarkable old white men should be granted the "boon" of being allowed to build, and operate, a casino in Toledo.
Certainly, that would level the scales of justice in a way that should please everyone.
Certainly, that would level the scales of justice in a way that should please everyone.
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Ohio politicians have been blocking the will of the Alaskan people for decades now, they need to concentrate on their own state, and stop interfering in the affairs of other states. McKinley was not even president at that time and Republicans used it as a ploy to get McKinley elected over a Democrat.
I think Ohio has enough problems to deal with.
I think Ohio has enough problems to deal with.
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Three cheers for the President, Denali is the correct name. Boehner is "disappointed " OMG but not disappointed in not allowing a reasonable bipartisan immigration bill to be voted on in the House? Well consider the source.
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At first I found the supposed Ohio outrage funny, but now I am annoyed. There are better things for our congress critters to worry about than the name of a mountain in Alaska.
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What are Ohioans so upset about? They can rename the highest peak in Ohio for McKinley.
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I find it difficult to believe that most Ohians are as outraged about this as their leaders are suggesting. And those who are outraged need to get over it.
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Undoing the legacy of a "colonial" mindset----like when the Republican-Congress changed name of Washington National Airport---already named for a president----to Ronald Reagan airport in the face of overwhelming local opposition. (coup led by Newt Gingrich and big donors). Boehner and Ryan remain deeply disappointed as their default mode.
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This was not a "presidential power grab". It was respect for the people who live in the area before illegal European immigrants came in and re-named everything.
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Obama has called to build more Coast Guard icebreakers, perhaps we could name one of those after President McKinley. Think of all the science and nature documentaries it would be featured in! Or what about a new Ford Class aircraft carrier? Be on CNN all the time!
The people in Alaska wanted the mountain to be renamed so what's the fuss?
The people in Alaska wanted the mountain to be renamed so what's the fuss?
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I'm from Ohio and it doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, the majority of Ohioans probably don't know where this mountain is located, or even who McKinley was, or that he was from Ohio. This whole "controversy" seems fabricated by some Ohio delegation members.
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"Ms. Kenney of the William McKinley Presidential Library & Museum chose to find a silver lining of sorts: Perhaps all the chitchat would draw Americans to Canton not simply to visit the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but also to revisit the president’s legacy, including his grave site. 'He is our most significant artifact,' she said." I thought that was John Boehner!
No one here in Ohio cares a fig about this. Maybe 20% of the people here could have told you McKinley was from Ohio before this got rolling. Manufactured Republican crisis for their base.
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How would Ohioans feel about Alaskans renaming a major geographical formation in Ohio? Or renaming Ohio, for that matter.
If you were to ask someone in Fairbanks the directions to Mt McKinley you might get a blank stare. Denali, on the other hand, would put you on I-4 South.
Ohio has Boehner, that should be enough.
Ohio has Boehner, that should be enough.
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You know, Ohio, you're the only ones who think this mountain should be named McKinley. So, this being a democracy still; you need to come to terms with it.
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Of all the important things we have to worry about, Ohioans have to make a huge political issue out of THIS?
It's the name of a mountain. Ohioans (and McKinley) have ZERO connection to it.
Just let it go. And for crying out loud, Boehner. "Deeply disappointed?" Can you BE any more dramatic and petty?
It's the name of a mountain. Ohioans (and McKinley) have ZERO connection to it.
Just let it go. And for crying out loud, Boehner. "Deeply disappointed?" Can you BE any more dramatic and petty?
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No drama here at all. Believe me nobody in Ohio, including and especially Boehner, is losing sleep over this one.
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I suspect that "Ohioans" could care less about this. Most probably don't know who McKinley was or that there's a mountain named after him. This is all about the Ohio Congressional delegation feeling they are obligated to voice their objection. I'm not sure why the NYT feels this rises to the level of being a controversy.
Fortunately I do not remember anyone out here suggesting renaming Mt. Whitney, Mt Regan.
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I guess you mean Reagan; he wouldn't have stepped all over his punchline.
Ohioans take heart- you may have lost a native son's moniker for the most majestic mountain in North America, but rest assured, the ugly urban avenue in Fresno CA that bears his name will never change.
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Do people in Ohio, some people in Ohio, have nothing better to do than imagine some intense kinship between themselves and a President assassinated over a century ago who happened to be from the "same state" in pretty much the same way Babe Ruth and Derek Jeter played for the "same team"? At least sports fans have the excuse of being acknowledged fanatics.
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It's not us, it's those nasty Republican legislators, many of whom are in safely gerrymandered districts.
Here's a compromise: just name the lodge at Denali National Park the McKinley Hotel. That has a prestigious sound to it and a stately hotel is more in line with this long forgotten President than North America's grandest peak.
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Long overdue to correct a mistake. Just like Ayers Rock has been reclaimed as Uluru in Australia. Very glad it was done!
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This decision brings with it a small bit of satisfaction for President Obama's home state of Hawaiʻi. Keep in mind that Queen Liliʻuokalani, though opposed by the US congress, was making headway with the Cleveland administration regarding the illegal overthrow of the kingdom. The illegal annexation and incorporation of Hawaiʻi as a US territory only became final following McKinley's presidential inauguration. At least we can take something back from him after all these years.
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Bah, they can always rename Ohio's highest peak after McKinley, no need to usurp other states' peaks. Better a hill close to home than a mountaintop away, as far as honors go.
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This was such a correct thing to do..not politically correct...just plain correct...
Native american have been treated with more disregard than any other group ...
We sold their land and their dignity..It is about time to make things right.
Native american have been treated with more disregard than any other group ...
We sold their land and their dignity..It is about time to make things right.
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A tempest in a teapot is larger than this. Give me a break.
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As an Oregonian, I'll jump into this mountain-renaming scrum and suggest that since Mt. Hood is named after Lord Samuel Hood, a now-obscure British admiral, reverting to its aboriginal name of Wy,east would be an excellent idea.
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It's ok, I found a mountain in Ohio on Google Maps (1200') and renamed it Mt. McKinley. Everyone wins.
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Easy fix; name the highest point in Ohio "Mt. McKinley". Or "McKinley Overpass". Rim shot.
Cheap shot, admittedly... but talk about Ohio politicians making a mountain out of a... oh never mind.
Cheap shot, admittedly... but talk about Ohio politicians making a mountain out of a... oh never mind.
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The weirdest part of this whole story is your bit about Karl Rove citing that his book is about McKinley and "his ability to work with Democrats". Could Karl Rove BE any stranger?
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Seriously, a gold prospector (name unknown?) thought an Alaskan mountain should be named for a recently nominated candidate for president and somehow that occurred. How ridiculous is that? Get over it Ohio, you got to have your guy's name on the highest peak in the hemisphere over the wishes of the Native People for decades. Time to graciously return what was never yours or McKinley's.
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I would like to edit my comment. Rather than Ohio, get over it, Ohio politicians feigning outrage, get over it.
What's next? Rainier to Tahoma or Tacoma? I believe those are Native American alternatives. Mount Rainier is aptly named regarding the local climate (not so much this summer), although the name, in fact, has something to do with an English explorer, same as Vancouver. These historical antecedents tend to be blurry in the minds of local folks, and that likely is also true for Alaskans and Ohioans. Not politicians, though. They know everything.
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I live on a hill in Cincinnati that is known by the somewhat grandiose name of "Mount Lookout." If it is necessary to honor President McKinley, perhaps it would be better to honor him with a high place in his home state, rather than one in Alaska, and more appropriate to honor him with a more modest high place than the tallest mountain in North America. Renaming Mount Lookout as Mount McKinley would be a logical way to bring this important and divisive issue to a close.
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Yes, rename Mt. Lookout. From a time when I actually resided in Mt. Lookout I must say it is an impressive setting. There's one park, Ault I think, from which
you can look down upon Lunken (aka "Sunken Lunken) Airport. It's a great vista
and has a lot of class. Still, I'd miss Mt. Lookout if its name were changed.
Hey, Cincinnati, did they ever replace Grandin Bridge? Probably not. So rebuild it as a very convenient route from Mt. Lookout to Hyde Park. Great Grandin
McKinley Bridge. Sounds right to me. Ask the Ohio Congressional delegation to appropriate the money. (Alas, fat chance. Ohio always goes cheap.)
you can look down upon Lunken (aka "Sunken Lunken) Airport. It's a great vista
and has a lot of class. Still, I'd miss Mt. Lookout if its name were changed.
Hey, Cincinnati, did they ever replace Grandin Bridge? Probably not. So rebuild it as a very convenient route from Mt. Lookout to Hyde Park. Great Grandin
McKinley Bridge. Sounds right to me. Ask the Ohio Congressional delegation to appropriate the money. (Alas, fat chance. Ohio always goes cheap.)
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Or renaming all the hills in and around Cincinnati for Ohio's stellar presidents: WH Harrison, Hayes, Garfield, Benj Harrison, McKinley, Taft, Harding. Do we count Grant, or does Illinois claim him?
Better to return to the traditional name. Otherwise, pretty soon it would be "Trump! The Mountain!"
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I don't understand why some people in Ohio feel pride about a mountain that is 4000 miles away, that was named after a president who came from their state a hundred years ago?
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Maybe they have little else to be proud of?
Where's Oregon's presidents? You should know that Cincinnati is installing a truly gratuitous streetcar system in its downtown area inspired by Portland's example.
OK, all you outraged Ohioans, I'm going to call your bluff: If you're really that upset, prove it. Change the name of Columbus (who wasn't even an American, let alone President) to "McKinleyville". Not willing to go that far? Too bad. So sit down and shut up already.
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Also Cincinnati...........Check out its origin.
Northern California has a McKinleyville, and the nearby, small town of Arcata enjoys a statue of him in the town square.
Well, North, wherever that is, it was not named after the Columbus you think it was, but Samuel Columbus, a prominent local landowner, retailer, and builder originally from New York State.
Okay, that was easy - onward to renaming the Redskins!!
Oh and lest we forget, McKinley was a Republican, so this is
nothing more than "political payback"!
Oh and lest we forget, McKinley was a Republican, so this is
nothing more than "political payback"!
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McKinley was very good President. A common soldier who served in the Civil War (Union), he oversaw a quick, successful war (Spain) and left this country with an excellent Vice-President (Teddy Roosevelt) to succeed him after his assassination. This puts him light years ahead of other Presidents who have had all sorts of things named after them (example: the airport in Queens). We really should honor successful Presidents. There have not been that many.
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Great! Name a freeway or building after him. Don't take away the historical name of a place he never visited and had no connection to.
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The only reason Roosevelt was McKinley's VP was that the powers-that-were in the Republican Party at the time were afraid of TR's success in NY as governor & wanted to put him in a position where he couldn't interfere w/the spoils-driven machine that Sen. Platt of NY wanted to return to. McKinley had nothing to do w/selecting TR as his VP. And w/regard to the "quick, successful war" with Spain, McKinley wanted to avoid war w/Spain, but thanks to the yellow journalism pushed by Pulitzer, Hearst, & industrialists, found himself at war w/a crumbling Spanish empire. Finally, if you think that that we really shouldn't be naming things after unsuccessful presidents & you'd like to return JFK to its original name of Idlewild, I'll go along w/that idea as long as we return Reagan to its original name of National.
Sorry, but I really don't think the naked aggression of the Spanish-American War, which began our too-long involvement with Puerto Rico, Cuba and the Philippines, is anything great or even very good.
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I am so glad that President Obama did the right thing on this matter. Alaskans are rightfully glad. The mountain after all is in Alaska, and officially restoring the name that native tribes gave to the mountain is honorable and long overdue. It's ridiculous it hasn't happened before.
It also isn't clear how many Ohioans are actually outraged. Or whether McKinley, who seems to have been a sensible president, would actually care. That Boehner expressed negative feelings is a given - publicly what else does the guy do?
And although it's happening at a politically possible time for the President, truly when is that not the case for most of our government decisions? That a gold miner's decision to name the mountain in the first place was actually honored at the time, is beyond the pale.
Glad the original name is officially restored thanks to President Obama.
It also isn't clear how many Ohioans are actually outraged. Or whether McKinley, who seems to have been a sensible president, would actually care. That Boehner expressed negative feelings is a given - publicly what else does the guy do?
And although it's happening at a politically possible time for the President, truly when is that not the case for most of our government decisions? That a gold miner's decision to name the mountain in the first place was actually honored at the time, is beyond the pale.
Glad the original name is officially restored thanks to President Obama.
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Alaska has been trying to change the name for 35 years!!! Its about time someone listened to them.
At least (to my knowledge) Boehner didn't cry over this one.
Could the Times please skip the hyperbolic headlines and get back to accuracy. Ohio doesn't "fume" over this. A few politicians do. I would bet that many, if not most folks from Ohio, could not care less about the issue, presuming they even consider it one. I expect "fuming" is reserved for more substantive matters such as health care, immigration, and jobs.
It's a sad commentary on our times that such a non-issue even becomes a political matter. I suppose that if the politicians were not so afraid of dealing with issues of substance, they might find something better to do with their time and feigned outrage than claim this as a partisan, states rights, or executive overreach issue.
It's a sad commentary on our times that such a non-issue even becomes a political matter. I suppose that if the politicians were not so afraid of dealing with issues of substance, they might find something better to do with their time and feigned outrage than claim this as a partisan, states rights, or executive overreach issue.
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This is classic 'making a mountain out of molehill' situation.
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What a load of waffle. No one in Ohio cares what a mountain in Alaska is called, in spite of what the politicians and NYT may say. McKinley's name is on schools and streets all over the state. His Memorial and Library are in Canton Ohio. Disputes about the Wright Brothers may get some Ohioans bothered but not McKinley.
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The McKinley name seemed to have fallen out of common ussge decades ago in Alaska, based on my limited experience. This was official recognition of the traditional name, good move by the President.
Maybe they can name a freeway rest stop near Canton after McKinley, celebrating his campaign style.
Maybe they can name a freeway rest stop near Canton after McKinley, celebrating his campaign style.
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Republican politicians fume at Obama. In other news: sun sets in west.
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Really? I live in Ohio, and this article was the first I'd heard of any fuming. I think most Ohioans are fine with the change. (Indeed, I would bet that most Ohioans barely know who McKinley was, but that's another story.)
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“I don’t think he has that power to change it,” said Mr. Regula, who is 90. “What’s he going to do next, change the Ohio River to the U.S. Freeway?”
What kind of gall do people like this have who would simultaneously insult the president and the people of Alaska? And ignorant of the law on top of it. Why is the NYT quoting people like this? And why isn't this story about Alaskans finally getting the name recognized, instead of this negative garbage out of Ohio?
What kind of gall do people like this have who would simultaneously insult the president and the people of Alaska? And ignorant of the law on top of it. Why is the NYT quoting people like this? And why isn't this story about Alaskans finally getting the name recognized, instead of this negative garbage out of Ohio?
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Can the president Please change The Ohio State University back to Ohio State University?
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The National Park has been calling it Denali National Park for years. This is another example of a story being written to try to excite interest though the subject is silly.
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I think a good compromise would be to rename the former Mt. McKinley to Mt. Denial. It is an anagram of Denali and at the same time the name of Republican's favorite state.
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The people's traditional name for their mountain is nothing if not suitably majestic; the photos of Denali that have been published recently (like the one that accompanies this memo) are de-best!
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Let's rename those orange cones in the street "Boehner hats". I think a lot of Americans wouldn't mind running them over if they're called that plus you, Ohio, have given the House the most worthless, the most irrelevant Speaker ever.
Try listening to the needs of other states and perhaps some of us would care what Ohio thinks. Oh, that's right, Boehner has another gov't shutdown looming. But the name of a mountain in Alaska gets you lathered up?!! Sheesh.
Try listening to the needs of other states and perhaps some of us would care what Ohio thinks. Oh, that's right, Boehner has another gov't shutdown looming. But the name of a mountain in Alaska gets you lathered up?!! Sheesh.
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Puh-leez. You can't possibly loathe Boehner as much as we Ohioans who have never voted for him do.
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I was worried the president might name it after himself.
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Relax. I think it's very improbable that he will get the Republican nomination, let alone get elected.
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Utterly bizarre Ohioans even care about this....is there a club of people who care about obscure long-past presidents from your state I don't know about? Denali the obviously superior name. More respectful to Native Americans, an interesting word that actually relates to the mountain, and favored by people who actually live in the state. What's to discuss? P.S. Denali objectively also just sounds better. It's a GREAT word. Someone go poll 100 people and we can prove this.
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Maybe some people in Ohio enjoy history including the study of obscure presidents. By the way, is that nice Senator Goldwater still around?
We stole this country (or more precisely, greedily claimed land that its original inhabitants didn't seek to dominate and subjugate). It's not a difficult concept. Why are we still having the debate over who has the rightful claim to this country's ecological heritage?
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I am in Ohio right now. No one is fuming, except the OH Congressional delegation. Perhaps they should take a survey of voters' top concerns? I'm guessing this won't crack the top 100.
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The whole naming process is messy. Personally, I am for using the original Indian names for natural geographic features. Realistically this is probably not going to happen. However, we are getting closer to recognizing that the whole process of renaming is a political can of worms. We renamed the Tri-borough bridge...the RFK....the airport becomes JFK...etc. We are coming to accept that depending upon who is in office...iconic places and features periodically are renamed for recently departed iconic figures (of the correct political persuasion.) Hopefully, the Lincoln memorial keeps its name.
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Fuming Ohio Congressional Delegation didn't fit in the headline, right?
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If all states have their own laws and legal provisions Why take away the right to rename a mountain?
There is some little strip of I25 up by Monument Hill on the way to Denver that has a tiny sign that says "Ronald Reagan Highway". I have never heard one person ever call it that.
John Boehner needs a new "Crying Game" I guess.
Eyeball Roll.
John Boehner needs a new "Crying Game" I guess.
Eyeball Roll.
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With all due respect to our all knowing President. With Mt Mckinley the tallest mountain in OUR US of A, why not have our Congress (yeah, those guys that represent all of us) have the final say. Personally I think Denali is my choice, but this MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY that Obama is tripping on is getting tiresome. What it does, simply is to "allow" the next President to play God against the wishes of people. Looking forward soon to Obama or a future Pres to rename Mt. Rushmore, or Mt Rainier. Both are ripe to play god with
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Let's not get melodramatic with the all caps. Pray tell, which people do you refer to when you say Obama is playing god against their wishes? The people you happen to agree with, or the people whose ancestors have occupied the that region for centuries before Europeans set foot?
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Ok, you do realize he was answering the call of the Alaskans and didn't wake up one day and decide that mountain just HAD to be renamed. Seriously, read something...anything....and don't comment. Just nod and we won't know.
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There already is a formal process for naming geographic features and it looks like it was followed. The Board of Geographic Names has responsibility for names and the name change was submitted to them decades ago. The law says if they don't act in a reasonable time frame, then the Secretary of the Interior can make the decision , and that is what happened. It was not an executive order by the President.
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Having gone to Alaska first 30 years ago, I have heard few people refer to Denali as Mt. McKinley. Surely Ohio can find something there to name McKinley and let those who live 5000 miles away use their original name. That would be both both relevant and honor the people in both states.
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There's no reason whatsoever that President McKinley should have his name on the tallest mountain in the United States. Just because we've stuck with the name for a hundred years means nothing since it's been called Denali by those closest to it for thousands of years. Moreover, this isn't about "executive power" so much as it's about fulfilling the will of the people of Alaska, where the thing is located and to which McKinley probable never gave much thought.
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It's a sad commentary on our times that such even becomes a political matter. I suppose that if the politicians were not so afraid of dealing with issues of substance, they might find something better to do with their time and feigned outrage than claim this as a partisan, states rights, or executive overreach issue.
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Why not change the city's name from Canton to McKinleyville?
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Dear Ohio,
Please feel free to rename the George W. Bush Turnpike the William McKinley Expressway.
Hugs,
Texas
Please feel free to rename the George W. Bush Turnpike the William McKinley Expressway.
Hugs,
Texas
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yeah, but with all the drunks that drive the wrong way on the GWB, I think the current name is more appropriate.
It would be a very good idea to systematically go through all named places in the United States and remove any and all traces of racism.
Will that happen under a Republican congress?
Never.
Will that happen under a Republican congress?
Never.
and all traces of Bush and Reagan. Now that would be refreshing.
As a former Cleveland, I say we join the movement to respect indigenous traditions and naming rights and we change the name of the Cleveland baseball team to the McKinleys.
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How about remaining Mount Rainier to it original, Tahoma?
http://www.kplu.org/post/it-time-rename-mount-rainier-its-former-native-...
http://www.kplu.org/post/it-time-rename-mount-rainier-its-former-native-...
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The change of the mountain's name is obviously Obama's fault. There are ignorant Reblublicans that will believe the lie that naming it Mt McKinley in the first place was Obama's fault. The current Republican frontrunner is a birther. Trump says he has proof that Obama travelled through time to plant his birth notice in a Hawiian newspaper and fake official Hawiian State records. Is it any wonder that Boehner wants to jump in? He doesn't want to become irrelevant before he becomes a lobbyist and makes some real money.
The other Ohio politicians mentioned are just Orangeman wannabes. I live in Ohio. I know these good citizens. Someone should ask Mr John Kasich Lehman Brothers what the good folks on Wall Street think. Their money speaks louder than mere people. Just ask Native Americans in Alaska.
The other Ohio politicians mentioned are just Orangeman wannabes. I live in Ohio. I know these good citizens. Someone should ask Mr John Kasich Lehman Brothers what the good folks on Wall Street think. Their money speaks louder than mere people. Just ask Native Americans in Alaska.
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If Ohioans are still sore, we can rename the GMC SUV known as the "Denali" to the "Mt. McKinley." It's a closer representation of modern Republican values than the mountain is, anyway.
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Such a waste. The government could have sold the naming rights to fund much needed infrastructure improvements. Why not Mount T-Mobile or Mount Boeing?
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As many others have noted, President Obama opened himself to charges of hypocrisy. He goes all naturalistic in re-renaming the mountain to its earlier, historic name as he authorized more Shell Oil drilling and the likelihood of pollution of that very same sacred land. I voted for him to become then remain president, and would again, considering the alternatives. How sorry our choices have become.
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I'm pretty much with you; our choice for Pres. was between the oft mentioned "rock and a hard place".
However, I never liked revisionist thinking and that includes re-naming geographic locations, towns, streets, political events, et cetera.
However, I never liked revisionist thinking and that includes re-naming geographic locations, towns, streets, political events, et cetera.
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It was already named when it was decided to rename it Mt. McKinley. Dentali is the ORIGINAL name.
It is ironic that the proud state of Ohio takes its name from a native American word: Wikipedia - Seneca Ohiyo 'the best river' or 'the big river'. Maybe out of spite they could change their name to McKinley.
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Not only are Ohioans NOT enraged about the name change, we can't do anything about the Ohio River because it actually is part of Kentucky.
Hey....didn't the white guy that discovered the long unknown and unrecognized mountain get naming rights?
Like comets?
Let Ohio name the their highest mountain McKinley.
Like comets?
Let Ohio name the their highest mountain McKinley.
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The "white guy" did not discover the mountain. The Alaskan natives were aware of it and had named it about a thousand years before the "white guy" saw it.
Denali is the right name. But how is it that the President gets to name mountains or anything else. Can he change Mt. Rainier to Mt. Tacoma, to touch on a long-ago controversy?
Can he change the name of a city? Of a national park? He just should not have this power, however right, big, or small this is.
Can he change the name of a city? Of a national park? He just should not have this power, however right, big, or small this is.
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so who exactly should have that power...Reagan?
The Secretary of State did the changing. Obama only did the formal part of announcing it. From NYT: "The central Alaska mountain has officially been called Mount McKinley for almost a century. In announcing that Sally Jewell, the secretary of the interior, had used her power to rename it, Mr. Obama was paying tribute to the state’s Native population, which has referred to the site for generations as Denali, meaning 'the high one' or 'the great one'.”
I am sure Ohio can find a beautiful mountain, lake or some other prominent feature within Ohio to name after McKinley.
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It is Denali. You only to have visit Alaska to know that everyone refers to this majestic grace as Denali. The rename never took. Call it what it is. It is not politics. It is practicality and common sense. And why don't you just try this: be in its presence- gazing from afar, rambling in its wilderness, scoping its majesty from a small plane- and call it McKinley. You will not be able to. Denali will come rolling off your tongue.
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Ohioans will get over it.
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Ohioans, if you're truly outraged (isn't anyone just annoyed these days?), just remember, you can still claim your title as Mother of Presidents. Maybe you can find something to name for him in the great Buckeye state.
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There are any number of small peaks in Ohio that merit the McKinley name; as in Iowa, where the highest point is the manure pile on a northwestern Iowa farmer's pig ranch. That would however perhaps best be Mount Boehner. Ohio is a lovely place; let them relish their scenery; no need to steal someone else's, right? But to impose an imperial will on Alaska dating back to the 19th century just does not seem just. Does it?
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Ohio can do one better. They can retrospectively change William McKinley's to William Denali. Your move Alaska.
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I understand the locals were denied being able to 'rename' the mountain Denali for decades and this president just cut red tape to make it happen. In other words this name was not made up by Obama administration - this was its original name. So please Obama haters take this up with Alaskan Senators' supporting this decision even by Congressional proclamation.
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My, talk about making a mountain out of a mountain!
The only ones truly discomforted are map makers around the globe.
The only ones truly discomforted are map makers around the globe.
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Npe! the typesetters for the company printing the map
Leave it to the curator/historian to apparently be the only rational person in the whole state of Ohio.
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No one in Ohio is fuming about it. I told one woman, and she hadn't heard about it. That's how worked up people in NE Ohio are.
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Next we should return the name of Mt. Rainier to its original Native American name. The only ones who would object would be British loyalists.
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Another oh so magnificent presidential accomplishment by the current occupant of the Oval Office. It will be interesting to see which direction Ohio goes in the upcoming election.
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If the voters of Ohio will vote Republican just because the POTUS authorized the name change of a mountain, that by the way, the people of Alaska have been trying to do since 1975, that doesn't say much about their grasp of important issues of our time.
Surely we can sell the naming rights for a few million bucks. Mount T.D. Bank, anyone? Or the David and Charles Koch peaks?
I'm making myself sick….
I'm making myself sick….
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That's okay. libs make me sick all the time, now you know how we feel.
From reading the comments about this in the Columbus Dispatch, it looks to me like most Ohioans, or at least those in Columbus, are perfectly fine with the renaming.
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It is not being renamed; the original name is being restored.
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Look, Ohio, you already gave us Bush II's second term, what more do you want? (And yes, the entire country respectfully declines such a gracious gift.) Sorry, this is something even old Karl Bush can't manipulate. Deal with it. (Or live in Denial.)
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The people of Alaska want the name changed back to Mt. Denali and that's that. After all, the mountain is in THEIR state. So, Ohioans, get over it. "Fume" over something worth "fuming" about. This isn't it!
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well. let's just name one of those Ohio mountains after McKinley. and ten everyone will be happy.
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A prospector named it for a guy who won an election and who had nothing to do with Alaska. A prospector!! The mountain is considered part of the creation story of the indigenous people there who had no say in Mr. Prospector's ridiculous name swap.
Come on, Ohio, get over it. Name something in Ohio for your guy.
Sit Down, Karl Rove. No one cares what you think about this mountain or any mountain.
Come on, Ohio, get over it. Name something in Ohio for your guy.
Sit Down, Karl Rove. No one cares what you think about this mountain or any mountain.
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I am originally from Cincinnati. It is embarrassing to see Boehner again displaying his own ignorance and crass values. Denali should be called Denali, certainly not named after someone who has had no connection with the mountain. Boehner and his cronies have damaged America enough without false tears over a mountain.
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Truly. Maybe Mr. B could name a nice bar or a hanky store for Mr. McK.
He is beyond ridiculous.
He is beyond ridiculous.
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Great Comment, Steve. Then, it's settled: Cincinnati becomes McKinley, Ohio, although the Bengals will stay the Bengals.
Seriously, William McKinley was a good president for the day by any measure, and he deserves neither the credit nor the blame (depending upon your point of view) for the Hearst-Pulitzer Spanish-American War.
Seriously, William McKinley was a good president for the day by any measure, and he deserves neither the credit nor the blame (depending upon your point of view) for the Hearst-Pulitzer Spanish-American War.
Count me as another Ohioan who doesn't care diddly-squat about this.
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History is on the run everywhere.
ISIS is destroying ancient temples.
In the Southern US, 100 year old statues are being pulled down.
Now mountains renamed.
ISIS is destroying ancient temples.
In the Southern US, 100 year old statues are being pulled down.
Now mountains renamed.
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According to Alaskans, history is being restored with this decision. Rejoice!
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And that ghastly institution that your forebears fought tooth and nail for is being renamed "heritage".
Jim...
1. The mountain is officially being recognized by its original name. BTW, its also the name that the current residents of that state also refer to it as.
2. Comparing the destruction of ancient temples by religious radicals is not the same thing.
3. Statues that honor those fighting to keep slaves is neither worthy of respect nor worthy of remembrance.
Way to compare the incomparable.
1. The mountain is officially being recognized by its original name. BTW, its also the name that the current residents of that state also refer to it as.
2. Comparing the destruction of ancient temples by religious radicals is not the same thing.
3. Statues that honor those fighting to keep slaves is neither worthy of respect nor worthy of remembrance.
Way to compare the incomparable.
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As the President once reminded Mr. Mc Cain: 'Elections have consequences'.
No one will ever name anything Mt. McConnell.
No one will ever name anything Mt. McConnell.
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Please send Obama here to McKinleyville, California so he can rename our town too. Not sure what the locals called this area before the white man came. But whatever it was has to be better than McKinelyville.
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Now you know why Congress has a 9% approval rating. I'm guessing most of the 9% who approve of our Congress are the ones living and crying in Ohio?
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I'm sorry Ohio, it's Denali it always has been and it always will be. I have lived in Alaska for over 20 years and I have never heard it called Mckinley that a local didn't immediately correct them. It's called Denali.
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I am certain that those in Ohio that object to the name can stop messing around with names outside of their state and find a feature in their own backyard that can honor Pres. McKinley.
In fact, if no sufficiently grand geographic feature is found, and Mr. McKinley's deeds are so esteemed by the population, may I suggest that the State of Ohio change its name to the State of McKinley. Alaska, I am sure, will have no beef with that.
In fact, if no sufficiently grand geographic feature is found, and Mr. McKinley's deeds are so esteemed by the population, may I suggest that the State of Ohio change its name to the State of McKinley. Alaska, I am sure, will have no beef with that.
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So what ever happened to "State's Rights" that Republicans are constantly railing about and are so passionate about?
Alaska has wanted the name changed back to Denali since 1975 BUT they were stopped by Ohioans in Congress.
Guess "State's Rights" is convenient when you want it to support your position BUT not when you don't want to allow a state the right to name it's own natural landmarks.
Both of Alaska Republican Senators and their Republican Congressman want the name changed back to Denali.
Let the State and People of Alaska decide what to name their natural landmarks!
Outsiders should keep their mouths shut!
Alaska has wanted the name changed back to Denali since 1975 BUT they were stopped by Ohioans in Congress.
Guess "State's Rights" is convenient when you want it to support your position BUT not when you don't want to allow a state the right to name it's own natural landmarks.
Both of Alaska Republican Senators and their Republican Congressman want the name changed back to Denali.
Let the State and People of Alaska decide what to name their natural landmarks!
Outsiders should keep their mouths shut!
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States' Rights is a canard trotted out when it serves the purpose of an organized minority. Then it's put back in its lockbox for another day.
Good job, Mr. President. Now we would like you to abolish Columbus Day. It doesn't make any sense to celebrate Columbus and his legacy of genocide.
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I'm as anti-GOP as they come, but I honestly think Boehner & Co. don't really care about this story, except insofar as they need to comment on it and it's a chance to yet again express their displeasure that Obama is president. I imagine that most Ohioans couldn't care less; before this story broke, did they even know that McKinley was from Ohio?
Regardless, tough. If Ohio wants a mountain named after McKinley, they can build one.
Regardless, tough. If Ohio wants a mountain named after McKinley, they can build one.
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They could always rename their state's high point, Campbell Hill (at a lofty 1,550 feet), as McKinley Hill. Maybe Gov. Kasich could even do it by Executive Order. That would show President Obama!
They have already made a mountain out of a mole hill :-)
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Yes, great idea. Just think of all the jobs it will create.
Yeah, it's OK to rename Cape Kennedy Cape Canaveral since Kennedy was a Democrat, but boy don't you try that with pompous Republicans. McKinley was one of the first to solicit campaign money from corporate America in exchange for favors which at the time brought out calls for campaign finance reform Sound familiar?
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Can we stop with the faux outrage already? I was born and raised in Ohio and believe me, no one really cares. I think if you explained the issue to folks unaware of this history, they'd support this right headed decision.
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President McKinley was in office when American capitalism ran roughshod over workers' rights. As in the steel mills of western PA. He was also in office when the United States became an imperial power. Historians regard him as a front man for American business and manufacturing interests. Let Alaskans name the mountain as they wish.
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Opposition to this decision by the President, a decision that is way too long in coming, is further proof of endemic racism by Republicans.
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Ohio voter here. Denali is fine by me. Actually I prefer it.
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Well there's go my dream of McKinley be renamed, Mt. Sarah Palin, thanks President Obama, you shredder of conservative dreams. Seriously, if President Obama can rename Mt. McKinley (I've always thought of it as Denali), why not the ten US Army bases named after Confederates who fought to destroy the Union? I'm certain the only Ohioan fuming is Speaker "The Crier" Boehner.
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No, the name Mt. Palin should be reserved for a vantage point somewhere near Nome from which, on a clear day, one can see Russia.
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Why didn't he rename it Mount Palin? Or Mount Trump? Or Mount Christie? Or Mount Pataki? Then Boehner would shut up and go back to tanning himself.
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Hi there! Ohio here. No one here cares. There is the predictable republican outcry because everything Obama does cause predictable republican outcry. And Tim Ryan (my congressman) is just speaking up for his constituents since he represents Niles, McKinley's birthplace.
THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE LIST.
Nobody here is fuming. Please stop trying to create a storyfrom nothing. Come to Ohio if you want to speak for Ohioans
THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE LIST.
Nobody here is fuming. Please stop trying to create a storyfrom nothing. Come to Ohio if you want to speak for Ohioans
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I apologize for conflating the ridiculous John Boehner with your state.
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'Ohio' is an Iroquois Indian word that means 'good river'.
If Ohioans are so enamored with President McKinley, then they can change the name of their Indian-named state to McKinley.
They should really keep their nonsense and fake outrage to themselves.
If Ohioans are so enamored with President McKinley, then they can change the name of their Indian-named state to McKinley.
They should really keep their nonsense and fake outrage to themselves.
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I've spent the last 15 years in the Pacific Northwest and frankly forgot the mountain was named anything other than Denali. Midwesterners need to Get. A. Life.
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As if 98% of the people in Ohio even know who McKinley was. Such petty political nonsense.
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Much as I applaud officiating the name "Denali," I hope that this issue won't overshadow President Obama's critical message of addressing climate change in this trip.
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What message?
The message that we need to drill in the Arctic to combat climate change and shift to alternative energy.....that message?
The message that we need to drill in the Arctic to combat climate change and shift to alternative energy.....that message?
Comments from Ohio:
"I'm from Ohio and I have no problem with Mt. McKinley being renamed."
"Most Ohio people don't care."
"there are tens of thousands of Ohioans, including me, who don't give a fig about the re-naming of this remote (from Ohio, anyways) mountain."
Calm down, people!
"I'm from Ohio and I have no problem with Mt. McKinley being renamed."
"Most Ohio people don't care."
"there are tens of thousands of Ohioans, including me, who don't give a fig about the re-naming of this remote (from Ohio, anyways) mountain."
Calm down, people!
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This Ohioan says, "It's about time!"
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Ohio has its own highest point.
Rename Campbell Hill for McKinley.
Who the heck was Campbell anyway?
Rename Campbell Hill for McKinley.
Who the heck was Campbell anyway?
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Charles Campbell bought the land, including the hill, from descendants of the first owner, Solomon Hoge, in 1898. Included in the deal were naming rights. The hill, previously known as Hogue's Hill, is a towering 1,550 feet high.
Gov. Kasich could demonstrate his presidential talents by issuing an Executive Order to rename this high point as Mount McKinley.
Gov. Kasich could demonstrate his presidential talents by issuing an Executive Order to rename this high point as Mount McKinley.
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William McKinley never saw the mountain that mistakenly bore his name, never even went to Alaska. And he was one of the worst presidents in American history, a warmonger and imperialist.
That glorious mountain should most definitely be renamed "Denali"!
That glorious mountain should most definitely be renamed "Denali"!
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Cape Canaveral was named Cape Kennedy then back to Canaveral assassinated Presidents have a right to a memorial but perhaps not as much as a grieving public gives at the time.
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3,000 miles away, Ohioans don't care.
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Good for Alaska!
Now let's change "Hoover Dam" to its original name of "Boulder Dam." Herbert Hoover did not participate in the design or construction of the dam, and only had a very small part in the clerical regulation of the states that would benefit from it.
The Republicans stuck to the revised name of Hoover in order to stick it to FDR.
Now let's change "Hoover Dam" to its original name of "Boulder Dam." Herbert Hoover did not participate in the design or construction of the dam, and only had a very small part in the clerical regulation of the states that would benefit from it.
The Republicans stuck to the revised name of Hoover in order to stick it to FDR.
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I wonder what the Native Americans call Hoover Dam.
This Ohioan is glad to see the history of Alaska's Native people honored and their wishes respected. Returning the name Denali is an important, but in itself insufficient, step in acknowledging what has been taken from them.
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How quaint that Rove would laud McKinley for working with Democrats.
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To be honest I thought they had changed the name a long time ago. Certainly one has heard "Denali" more often than "McKinley" for many years.
We all know that if a Republican president had formalized the change, none of these politicians would have found anything to criticize.
We all know that if a Republican president had formalized the change, none of these politicians would have found anything to criticize.
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Ohio....Get over it already.....Jeez.
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How can adult people even consider this a controversy? The mountain is in Alaska, it was "discovered" by native Alaskans, McKinley never even visited the mountain. Ohio needs to sit down and shut up. It's bad enough we have to pay attention to you every four years during primary season while other states with similar demographics get ignored.
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Isn't there a dank, miserable valley somewhere that President Obama could name for Scott Walker?
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Could be worse, Buckeyes. They could have renamed it Mount Czolgosz.
Maybe, as a consolation prize, one of the peaks or sub-peaks in the New Hampshire White Mountains Presidential range could be renamed McKinley.
And that mausoleum in Canton is a humdinger.
Maybe, as a consolation prize, one of the peaks or sub-peaks in the New Hampshire White Mountains Presidential range could be renamed McKinley.
And that mausoleum in Canton is a humdinger.
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Or Wolverine Mountain.
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Excuse me, I'm from Ohio and I have no problem with Mt. McKinley being renamed. In fact, I think it's a great idea and certainly a more suitable name. The only person who I heard of who had a problem with it is Cryin' John Boehner. My co-workers didn't bat an eyelash over it, didn't seem to care. But once Boehner made his statement, then it's "Ohio Fumes Over Renaming of Mt. McKinley"? C'mon, NYT's enough of the drama. Trust me, most Ohioans don't care about the name of a mountain in Alaska. Sheesh...
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i agree. It's like the to-do over whether Pluto is a planet or not. Idiotic.
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Well done, Moira. John Boehner ought to be doing other things, for his own good, like getting ready for the visit by Pope Francis, who will probably have a lot to say to climate-change deniers and Middle East bombing aficionados like Boehner.
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While living in Anchorage during the 80's it was called Danali. Mount Danali won't last with the locals. The Mount will be dropped, the reason: Alaskans don't like to be dictated to by Washington DC. Obama seems a bit consumed with his legacy in his last 16 months of his presidency.
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Please don't start a sentence, let alone an entire article, with the superfluous phrase "to be clear"...especially when the subject of the sentence is superfluity.
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Denali is an anagram of Denial. It seems wholly appropriate that the GOP, who deny everything from climate change to rational thought, should be so opposed to the name change.
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Ohio Republican politicians fume at renaming at Mt. McKinley. And everything else Obama does. Most Ohio people don't care.
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Why should Ohioans even care? Don't they have anything else to worry about - like Cleveland, for example?
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Dear Mike, I'd be willing to bet a day's pay that you've never been to Cleveland. Cleveland has come a long way back. It has some of the best museums, best theater and best music in the country. Seems that it is always people who have never been to Cleveland who badmouth it.
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Dear Al, Forgive me....you are right. Cleveland has come a long way and I hope that continues. Thanks for your reply.
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Or Boehner?
Contrary to your headline, there are tens of thousands of Ohioans, including me, who don't give a fig about the re-naming of this remote (from Ohio, anyways) mountain.
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Tempest in a teapot...aren't there bigger things to worry about?
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There are bigger mountains to worry about.
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Tempest. Teapot. Teapot Dome. Another "great" Ohioan: Warren G. Harding.
Let it go, Ohio!
Let it go, Ohio!
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President McKinley's only significant accomplishment was to name Theodore Roosevelt as his vice-presidential candidate in order to gain more Republican votes. He then had the misfortune to be assassinated.
But that gave Teddy the presidency, and the rest is history. He was the finest Republican president since Lincoln, and has not been surpassed by any Republican president since. He would, of course, be unacceptable to today's Republican Party.
But that gave Teddy the presidency, and the rest is history. He was the finest Republican president since Lincoln, and has not been surpassed by any Republican president since. He would, of course, be unacceptable to today's Republican Party.
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I don't know about that. He would probably make Democrats even angrier.
He built the Panama Canal. Sent the Great White Fleet around the world. Opposed Wilson's non-intervention plan for WW I.
Quotes from Wikipedia:
"we cannot have too much immigration of the right sort, and we should have none whatever of the wrong sort"
Americans, he repeatedly said, were getting too soft and having too few children and were thus dying out.
All in all, one of the great presidents, along with Ronald Reagan.
He built the Panama Canal. Sent the Great White Fleet around the world. Opposed Wilson's non-intervention plan for WW I.
Quotes from Wikipedia:
"we cannot have too much immigration of the right sort, and we should have none whatever of the wrong sort"
Americans, he repeatedly said, were getting too soft and having too few children and were thus dying out.
All in all, one of the great presidents, along with Ronald Reagan.
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There is no reason to dismiss President McKinley, who had a distinguished career, about any of this. He was by all accounts an accomplished man before he ascended to the Presidency. Like many people in this particular comments section, you demean the memory of a man who did his best to serve this nation. Show some respect. Denali should be named as such and deserves better than being tagged on the back of an SUV in cheap plastic. Take issue with that. But leave the memory of McKinley who was assassinated while in office with some dignity. He deserves better.
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Every day on my way to work I drive past McKinley's birthplace and his large, dusty, untouristed memorial. If I take an alternate route, I go through McKinley Heights (elevation in the single digits) and pass the McKinley Motel. With all that, does he really need a mountain? Ohio is up to its ears in forgettable presidents whom it insists on remembering. Kasich could be the next.
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I visited the memorial and birthplace once during Thanksgiving vacation. No one was at either place. Zip. And honestly, we renamed the mountain Denali years ago- this is a technicality.
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As a outsider I find...this so funny People who don't live in Alaska wants to name geographic locations of Alaska lols
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I don't know why everybody is so upset about this. Once The Donald gets elected President. He will name the mountain Trump Towers North!!
In all seriousness, watch out for payback on unilateral decisions by Barry!
In all seriousness, watch out for payback on unilateral decisions by Barry!
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Ohio should name its highest peak -- currently named Campbell Hill -- after McKinley, and then we could all move on to a more important issue.
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Ohio has peaks??
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"Ohio has peaks??"
It's more like a very high parking lot.
It's more like a very high parking lot.
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Well, not peaks, but it does have hills.
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Let's rename it Mt. Reagan and make all the Republicans happy.
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Boehner has to say stuff like this because he lives politically on the hubris of cranky White folks.
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Omg, your comment made me laugh. You're spot on with your statement, very simply put.
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Ah ha ha ha, Bingo!
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If Obama gave everyone $1 million in gold, the Republicans would complain about the weight.
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Really? Maybe we could negotiate with General Motors and rename the GMC Yukon Denali the President McKinley and call it even?
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This is easily resolved. Let Ohio name one of its 20,000 ft. mountains "Mt. McKinley."
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I think they should re-rename it Mt. Boehner. Then they could rename Campbell Hill, the highest point in Ohio, Mount McKinley. Then, while they are at it, they should rename High Point, the highest point in New Jersey, Mt. Christie. That would solve the nation's problems. [Trump Tower could keep its name.]
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Kin-Buc landfill in Edison NJ would be a more appropriate site to be renamed for Christie.
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A gold prospector from Ohio named it after McKinley. I'll go with its prior and actual name always used by Alaskans. It is still the same formidable mountain no matter what people call it.
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Born and raised in Canton, Ohio and I could not care less what they call the mountain, but it seems the Alaskan indigenous people should have the final say. In fact I thought this question had already been settled. I just wish the president were as concerned about Shell drilling in the wilderness. Mixed up priorities for sure.
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No one is indigenous.
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I though that Mt. McKinley was renamed Denali, not Mt. Denali.
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Really, Ohio? Don't you think the people of Alaska ought to be able to name the mountain what they want it named? I mean, really! What if John McCain were elected president and decided to name half the nation monuments in Ohio after Sarah Palin?
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Trust me Mike, most Ohioans do not care what a mountain in Alaska is named. We really don't. I think it's up to Alaska's indigenous people to make that call. We're not all idiot, knee-jerk reactionaries here.
Although, sadly, there are a few - see John Boehner (sigh...).
Although, sadly, there are a few - see John Boehner (sigh...).
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Seriously, we are fine with Denali. As a matter of fact, I thought it had been changed a long time ago. I'm not upset about the Cape Kennedy - Cape Canaveral thing either. Don't let Rob Portman and John Boehner speak for us!
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Really Michigander? Non politician Ohioans are either indifferent or fine with the change. We/I would prefer losing the Mt. Put on your mittens and be thankful you claim Bob Bell as a native son.
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As an Ohioan, I say let the people of Alaska decide what to name mountains, rivers, etc. in their state. We here in Ohio can find a hill somewhere to name after President McKinley.
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Well Said... :)
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Here's an even better idea. Create a new cultivar of corn which produces four ears, not the usual three (thereby increasing yield by 33%) and name it McKinley.
Don't forget, one of America's greatest and beloved musicians was named McKinley Morganfield.
Don't forget, one of America's greatest and beloved musicians was named McKinley Morganfield.
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I was born and raised in Ohio, but I think there are other ways to honor President McKinley for his work leading this country than by taking away the original Native American name of Denali.
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"The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name."
--Confucius
Ohio could use a little wisdom, as could America.