Joe Biden and Jon Huntsman.
Wait, that's bipartisan, with experienced, thoughtful, serious people.
OK, we'll have to scratch that idea.
Wait, that's bipartisan, with experienced, thoughtful, serious people.
OK, we'll have to scratch that idea.
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I hope Biden runs. Then the people will see that he is not much different than Hillary. That would only make Bernie Sanders even more popular. Biden will do a great job of dragging Hillary down the drain of failed candidates.
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I'm just remembering Biden's vice-presidential debate opposite Paul Ryan (remember him?) in the last campaign. He would be a formidable candidate, and I'd sure like to see him debate Clinton, assuming he would be willing to have at it. He was very sharp.
Mrs. Clinton is the center right Wall St confidant. Sanders is the unapologetically left leaning populist. VP Biden is the best of both worlds.
I welcome the vice president throwing his hat into the ring, which can only lead to a healthy debate for the party. He just has to be careful with the gaffes.
I welcome the vice president throwing his hat into the ring, which can only lead to a healthy debate for the party. He just has to be careful with the gaffes.
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Trump is nasty and Bernie is very nice and has a lot of good ideas that are going to cost a lot of money. I can't vote for either of them. John Kasich is looking better to me each day and if he is the Republican candidate and the Democrats do not nominate a Centrist, Kasich will get my vote.
Those who are pulling for a Biden candidacy, as well as those pulling for Al Gore to run, seem to think their respective candidate can emerge as some kind of compromise candidate between Clinton and Sanders. I really cannot see that happening in either case. For those, like me, who support Sanders and who are uneasy with Hillary Clinton's tendency towards hawkishness, her ties to the corporate world and her coziness with Wall Street, both Biden and Gore have many of the same liabilities. And for those who support Clinton, and fear that Sanders will not be able to compete nationally against an extremely well-funded candidate, it is hard to imagine that either Biden or Gore would be any more successful than Sanders,
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Joe Biden will be the "Donald Trump" of the Democratic candidates and will be the humorous entertainer. He'll be tossed under the bus just so the Dems can nominate and elect the first woman President, just as Hillary Clinton herself was tossed under the bus in 2008 when the Dems chose Barack Obama so they could claim choosing the first Black President.
Who is the most corrupt Hillary or Obama? Obama is by far the most corrupt president in US History, so far. Could Hillary out-corrupt Obama, if she were elected president?
A genuine fondness for Biden versus a genuine distrust, dislike of crone Hillary. Th..e choice should be obvious to all but the ideologically blinded. But wait.. crazy Al may yet enter the fray. Bedlam is good for the lost democrats..
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Wouldn't Biden have trouble navigating through angry women voters who would feel that Hilary got booted because of unspoken gender discrimination? And while Biden is personally a very appealing guy, would his personal blue collar appeal pull enough African Americans to the polling booths to make a difference in November?
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Run, Crazy Joe, Run! We need an ol' time plagiarist in the campaign!
As I mentioned in a comment yet to be published on the subject, Biden's best years lie ahead of him. I cited the example of Charles de Gaulle who returned to power in France in 1958, when he was invested, with the help of the army, as the last p.m of the Fourth Republic, two years later as the President of the brand new Fifth Republic,settled the Algerian problem in 1962, and resolved definitively the issue with a blanket amnesty of ex OAS combattants in 1968, including those "jusquaboutistes" who had tried to kill him 31 times.. C de Gaulle was then in his late seventies. One additional word of advice to JB:"Il ne faut pas se degonfler(Don't get discouraged)!"
Ah, I just love the sound of desperate Democrats in the morning!!!
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As much as I would like an alternative to Hillary I do not think it should be Vice President Biden. He has been a very able VP and has done his job very well. He should go out on a high note and retire with grace and dignity. Let's remember his previous presidential runs have not gone particularly well.
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ANYONE but Hillary Clinton.
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These politicians are black holes.
Let me give you the 411. Uncle Joe won't run.
Joe Biden is someone I'd like to have a beer with, but he's an entertaining gaff a minute buffoon who would make a terrible president. Very likable guy but not presidential, in my opinion.
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The Obama Justice Department has received inquiries about Hillary Clinton's use of email from the inspectors general of the Obama State Department and the Intelligence Community.
The FBI is now in possession of Hillary Clinton's personal email server.
The Obama Justice Department will decide whether or not Obama's Vice President...Joe Biden...should enter the 2016 presidential race.
Did Hillary Clinton violate U.S. national security laws with her handling of classified government emails on a private email server while she was U.S. Secretary Of State?
Only the Obama Justice Department can decide that.
I wonder what they'll do...
The FBI is now in possession of Hillary Clinton's personal email server.
The Obama Justice Department will decide whether or not Obama's Vice President...Joe Biden...should enter the 2016 presidential race.
Did Hillary Clinton violate U.S. national security laws with her handling of classified government emails on a private email server while she was U.S. Secretary Of State?
Only the Obama Justice Department can decide that.
I wonder what they'll do...
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The Democratic Party ignores the corruption of Hillary Clinton at its own peril.
I wonder what Barack Obama thinks about a 2016 run by his own Vice President?
Can the NY Times answer that question?
I wonder what Barack Obama thinks about a 2016 run by his own Vice President?
Can the NY Times answer that question?
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So, which President will be the first wearing Depends, Uncle Joe, or Granny Clinton or Warren?
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I think Biden is standing by in case Hillary withdraws due to health or indictment.
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Come on Joe. Hillary is history.
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I am just going to make a quick character observation about the Biden family compared to the Clinton family. Their families are of no small consequence because I'd expect that members of each family will campaign for each candidate. All of the Vice President's children have worked in public service. Both sons have served in the military with tours in Afghanistan to their credit. Beau's career in public service ended way to soon, and he was well loved by his constituents in Delaware. His daughter is a social worker and she runs a nonprofit serving victims of domestic violence. His wife is a teacher and works tirelessly for needs of military families.
The Clinton family has cashed in big on the popularity of President Clinton. Chelsea is an investment banker and receive $70,000 in speaking fees so she can talk about diarrhea. Chelsea's husband is to a hedge fund manager. President Clinton carries a lot of baggage, still. The man is still a hound dog, and he creeps me out. And, the idea of a cabinet member who has an e-mail account linked to a private server smacks of entitlement of the highest caliber.
Joe has had a few gaffes. But, the man has integrity and character. He is respected within the Democratic and the Republic parties, and knows how to reach across the aisle to get work done. He has my vote.
The Clinton family has cashed in big on the popularity of President Clinton. Chelsea is an investment banker and receive $70,000 in speaking fees so she can talk about diarrhea. Chelsea's husband is to a hedge fund manager. President Clinton carries a lot of baggage, still. The man is still a hound dog, and he creeps me out. And, the idea of a cabinet member who has an e-mail account linked to a private server smacks of entitlement of the highest caliber.
Joe has had a few gaffes. But, the man has integrity and character. He is respected within the Democratic and the Republic parties, and knows how to reach across the aisle to get work done. He has my vote.
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Hillary wants to run on her record, but she's wiped it clean.
Maybe Shotgun Joe would be a better choice.
Either way, it's going to be 'A Big Fricking Deal '.
Maybe Shotgun Joe would be a better choice.
Either way, it's going to be 'A Big Fricking Deal '.
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I'm an independent swing voter, we're the forgotten ones who actually decide elections, who is 8-1 in voting for the candidate who won the popular vote in the last 9 presidential elections. She will not get swing votes like mine in a national election. People who think Hillary Clinton is electable are delusional or living in a bubble. Shame on the Democratic Party for not developing any viable alternatives to the "sure thing."
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The Vice-President should run. His instincts are good, honed over decades of legislative and executive experience. His experience is of the highest quality. He is trusted. He works well with others.
He has survived real tragedy in his life and brought himself and his two little boys through it, because he had purpose and character. He has always had that genuineness to him. Through the years, he nurtured family. It sustained him then. It will sustain him now.
I think he is an excellent candidate. As an American who believes strongly in the democracy, I hope I will get the chance to choose among candidates, including Joe Biden, if he has an interest in running.
He has survived real tragedy in his life and brought himself and his two little boys through it, because he had purpose and character. He has always had that genuineness to him. Through the years, he nurtured family. It sustained him then. It will sustain him now.
I think he is an excellent candidate. As an American who believes strongly in the democracy, I hope I will get the chance to choose among candidates, including Joe Biden, if he has an interest in running.
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He also relishes haggling with his colleagues in Congress, which is something his boss has often struggled with.
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NYer wrote the following in reply to my comment that Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and anti-bankruptcy legislation”
“Almost all Democratic senators voted for the Iraq War (based on lies fed them by Bush Cheney) and also to repeal Glass-Steagall, a Bill Clinton idea (almost 20 years ago!), clearly a terrible mistake and one most would acknowledge as such looking back.”
NYer, Bernie Sanders said he voted against the Iraq War because Bush and Cheney never made a case for it. What does that say about Biden’s and Clinton’s judgment? Contrary to what you said, there were 23 Democratic senators who had the good sense to vote against the war resolution.
Regarding the repeal of Glass-Steagall, google YouTube to see how spot on Sanders was when he told Alan Greenspan in a hearing that the repeal of this legislation was a really bad idea. His predictions unfortunately came true in the crash of 2008.
“Almost all Democratic senators voted for the Iraq War (based on lies fed them by Bush Cheney) and also to repeal Glass-Steagall, a Bill Clinton idea (almost 20 years ago!), clearly a terrible mistake and one most would acknowledge as such looking back.”
NYer, Bernie Sanders said he voted against the Iraq War because Bush and Cheney never made a case for it. What does that say about Biden’s and Clinton’s judgment? Contrary to what you said, there were 23 Democratic senators who had the good sense to vote against the war resolution.
Regarding the repeal of Glass-Steagall, google YouTube to see how spot on Sanders was when he told Alan Greenspan in a hearing that the repeal of this legislation was a really bad idea. His predictions unfortunately came true in the crash of 2008.
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Des Johnson wrote, “Vote for Bernie and get a GOP POTUS.”
That is what the media, political, and corporate establishment want you to believe. Don’t buy into their narrative. There is no question that Sanders would win in a general election (with a wider margin than a corporatist Democrat), as he would attract more support from Independents, some Republicans (as he does in Vermont), and those who typically stay home because Washington does not represent them.
That is what the media, political, and corporate establishment want you to believe. Don’t buy into their narrative. There is no question that Sanders would win in a general election (with a wider margin than a corporatist Democrat), as he would attract more support from Independents, some Republicans (as he does in Vermont), and those who typically stay home because Washington does not represent them.
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I think Biden should join this presidential race because both Hillary and Bernie seem to be somehow improper candidates for Democrats - the former is involved in too many political scandals at the moment and the latter is too socialist one.
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Bernie Sanders represents the views and speaks to the concerns of more Americans than you realize. Why else do you think more than 100,000 have come out to hear him in person?
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Will President Obama grant a pardon to Hillary before the primaries if Joe Biden is running against her? Biden is President Obama's loyal supporter, and Biden's entry into the race may push Hillary to get out to save her chances for a presidential pardon.
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oh please...spare us...
too warmongering, middle of the road, same old, same old...and I won't forget your attitude at the Anita Hill you know what I mean...
too warmongering, middle of the road, same old, same old...and I won't forget your attitude at the Anita Hill you know what I mean...
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Reacting emotionally to Biden is one thing, closely scrutinizing his record is quite another...I'm sure he's more than his established record as an ardent drug warrior who thinks people who smoke pot should be in prison.
There's no need for the Dems to be desperate, an excellent non-fossilized candidate could emerge although sadly these days the Presidency seems to attract mediocrity from both political parties.
There's no need for the Dems to be desperate, an excellent non-fossilized candidate could emerge although sadly these days the Presidency seems to attract mediocrity from both political parties.
It is time Joe Biden steps into the fray as he has more credibility among dems to challenge GOP. While Hilary Clinton may have momentum among the dems, it will soon fade as she is one of the most disingenuous candidate and no different than most of the GOP candidates now in the fray. Hillary has been whipping up emotions of certain sections of the electorate, like women against men or ultra left against more moderate dems, leading to divisive politics she is ever willing to play to suit her ambitions but on of this nation.
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Give me a regular guy President, a guy with no axes to grind, nothing in the way of great accomplishments to achieve, a guy who tells the American people that maybe, sometimes, we can, a guy who is looking to position the country for the future by taking very small steps now while promising nothing in the way of instant cures, and I will give you a very good President.
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The old corrupt hag will make sure Uncle Joe doesn't run.
I think the best argument in favor of Biden is the fact that Clinton supporters believe she deserves to win, as though the nomination were an entitlement. If she does deserve it it will because she's won a hard fought campaign. If she can't do that for the nomination, she can't do that for the presidency.
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Apparently the Biden 2016 bandwagon is lead by the New York Times. How many more of these stories can we expect during the news doldrums of August?
They seem to be based on very casual conversations that every national political figure probably has a monthly basis. Add to that the fact that both previous Biden presidential campaigns were utter failures and it seems the Times just has no appetite to cover Marty O'Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee.
They seem to be based on very casual conversations that every national political figure probably has a monthly basis. Add to that the fact that both previous Biden presidential campaigns were utter failures and it seems the Times just has no appetite to cover Marty O'Malley, Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee.
Many -- very many -- Sanders supporters insist they will never vote for Hillary. A few will follow through. The rest are merely insulting other readers to expect them to believe this. Assuming Hillary gets the nomination, as even Sanders supporter concede is all but inevitable, Sanders supporters will have four choices:
1. Stay home.
2. Vote for Hillary.
3. Write in Sanders.
4. Vote for the Republican.
When the election results get reported, we will be able to figure out, roughly, what Sanders supporters did. Here they nearly always claim it will not be Number 2. But I think we all know that is exactly what it will be.
1. Stay home.
2. Vote for Hillary.
3. Write in Sanders.
4. Vote for the Republican.
When the election results get reported, we will be able to figure out, roughly, what Sanders supporters did. Here they nearly always claim it will not be Number 2. But I think we all know that is exactly what it will be.
I'm a Sanders supporter. And I don't concede anything.
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Joe has one big advantage over BS in this race; he's actually a Democrat. Sanders has never raised money for the party, supported down-line candidates or helped build party infrastructure. He's essentially getting a free ride in their bus. Bernie should do the honorable thing and run as a third-party candidate and quit taking party resources from Jim Webb, the most reasonable horse in their stable.
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Joe - love ya but don't do it. Your personal life is too important now and POTUS is thankless job esp given GOP obstructionists (just ask your boss).
Best you can do? Get Liz Warren to be Bernie's VP and get them elected instead of disingenuous Hillary.
Best you can do? Get Liz Warren to be Bernie's VP and get them elected instead of disingenuous Hillary.
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I think Mr. Biden is a great guy I would love to sit down and have a beer with, but not someone who should be running the country, which is how Molly Ivins (Excuse my paraphrasing) described George W. Bush.
I'm sorry to see President Obama end his second term. He is hitting his stride, and there is no one else I can think of that will make me feel as comfortable as I am with him as president. I wish there was someone who could come out of the woodwork and excite me, but I don't think that's going to happen.
I'm sorry to see President Obama end his second term. He is hitting his stride, and there is no one else I can think of that will make me feel as comfortable as I am with him as president. I wish there was someone who could come out of the woodwork and excite me, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Joe's not a bad guy by any means, although he does kind of get on my nerves by kind of talking/acting like he's in a 1950's TV show. His attempts at being folksy just come off sounding just plain silly. "When I was a boy my Pop said Joey…etc." I really don't want him to run for president and I certainly don't wish him any more pain. Just maybe go back to the Senate hopefully.
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As you say, Biden is a nice guy, but that is about it. He is well past retirement age, and should just hang up his spurs when his term ends. If he actually ran which he will not), and won, he would be the oldest president in US history by a very wide margin.
The only thing interesting about his possible run is what it says about Hillary. If she were the shoo-in everyone expected, Biden would not even be considering a run.
The only thing interesting about his possible run is what it says about Hillary. If she were the shoo-in everyone expected, Biden would not even be considering a run.
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Biden is, by all accounts, "clean." He is well known, which may of may not be an asset depending on what you remember. His performance at the Clarence Thomas hearings made me wince, but ok. Looking over the current choices:
The traitor, the Marxist, the saxophone player; Biden could well save the Democrat party from a possible blowout. Good luck.
The traitor, the Marxist, the saxophone player; Biden could well save the Democrat party from a possible blowout. Good luck.
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The wisest decision Joe Biden can make is to proudly retire at the end of his term as Vice President with the wide admiration and respect he has earned.
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"Still, Mrs. Clinton’s closest aides have privately expressed concerns that the campaign would have to spend heavily to defeat Mr. Biden in a primary."
At least they're being honest about their intentions to purchase the Democratic nomination.
At least they're being honest about their intentions to purchase the Democratic nomination.
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Amazing the number of Republicans commenting here and urging Biden, or Sanders, or Gore to run. They truly fear Hillary.
Nope, wrong. I'm a republican. I would like to see a choice between a democrat I could support if it came do and a republican. My nightmare scenario is Hillary V Trump. I'd have to sit that one out. A Biden - Walker? I just might have to vote for good old Joe, in that one.
I don't think anyone fears Hillary, truly or otherwise. She's spent whatever politccal capital she had.
I don't think anyone fears Hillary, truly or otherwise. She's spent whatever politccal capital she had.
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I think the comment " people are very apprehensive about her (Hillary) because they always feel like there’s a shoe to drop)" speaks volumes of the feelings of Ms. Clinton's supporters, which is why that Joe Biden needs to run.
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Run, Joe, run. Bernie will walk away with the socialists' vote and the college students would support him, if only they were registered voters. Hillary's only shot is if Trump destroys the Republican Party and joy though he brings us, Democrats can't depend on Trump.
And even if Hillary manages to stumble across the finish line, she will be too weakened by ongoing investigations and impromptu impeachment efforts to govern.
And even if Hillary manages to stumble across the finish line, she will be too weakened by ongoing investigations and impromptu impeachment efforts to govern.
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If Joe Biden wades into this election, I will lose all respect for him. Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate that deserves a chance at the nomination, provided she swings for the bleachers for the rest of the election cycle. Bernie Sanders is the most honest decent intelligent caring politician to seek office in generations. Barack better keep "hands on" Joe out of this election so a woman can bash the political/left ceiling with her ability to listen and respond to her constituency - and to America.
Stay out of this Joe. Your time has passed.
Stay out of this Joe. Your time has passed.
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You will "lose all respect for him"? Why respect?
How did you come up with that phrase?
Doesn't sound to me that you have much respect for anything other than, perhaps, yourself.
And I'm sure your lack of respect for him will keep Mr. Biden up nights.
How did you come up with that phrase?
Doesn't sound to me that you have much respect for anything other than, perhaps, yourself.
And I'm sure your lack of respect for him will keep Mr. Biden up nights.
1--"Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate that deserves a chance at the nomination"
2--(keep) "Joe out of this election so a woman can bash the political/left ceiling with her ability to listen and respond to her constituency - and to America. "
Those sound like
1--But Gee, it's her turn.
2--Vote for her because of her gender.
Both are lousy reasons to vote for--or against--anyone.
2--(keep) "Joe out of this election so a woman can bash the political/left ceiling with her ability to listen and respond to her constituency - and to America. "
Those sound like
1--But Gee, it's her turn.
2--Vote for her because of her gender.
Both are lousy reasons to vote for--or against--anyone.
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REBRIAN:Why is it necessary to have an establishment candidate, as u describe HRC? Why is it imperative to bash the "political/left ceiling" as u put it?What is her constituency?What leads u to believe that America wants her, and what r her achievements, either as a US Senator or as Secretary of State? You will recall when a focus group of HRC supporters was asked that question, what were her signal achievements, an uncomfortable silence ensued.No one could name a single piece of legislation that HRC sponsored as a Senator, or any breakthrough she could take credit for in then ME peace process.I hope this election upcoming will be a watershed moment, marking the passing of the old guard, which includes the Bushes and the Clintons. Both families have become troglodytes, out of place in today's world. If Biden can prove to be a counter force to HRC, I say "Right on!"
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I volunteered twice for Bill Clinton and once for Hillary Clinton (her 2000 Senate run) and am a fairly liberal democrat. However, I would rather sit on my hands and let the Republicans take the presidency with whatever yahoo they pull from their overstuffed hat than to support Ms. Clinton for the presidency. It has been increasingly obvious over the course of the last 16 years that Ms. Clinton has really only one person in mind in her run and will take whatever position she believes will give her any short-term electoral or fundraising advantage. While Joe Biden is not perfect, I hope he runs. I would support and vote for him.
Hillary Clinton supported/ Supports:
Defense of Marriage Act
Don't Ask - Don't Tell
The Iraq war
Keystone XL pipeline *
NAFTA
Putting the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem
USA PATRIOT Act
Laws against flag burning
No Child Left Behind / Common Core
Death penalty
Is Against:
Marijuana decriminalization and increased medicinal use
Same sex marriage until 2013
Also:
Board member of Walmart
Bungled single payer health care
E-mail scandal
Race-baited Obama campaign after 2008 SC loss
Threatened super-delegate revolt in 2008
* C'mon. Who is she kidding?
Hillary Clinton supported/ Supports:
Defense of Marriage Act
Don't Ask - Don't Tell
The Iraq war
Keystone XL pipeline *
NAFTA
Putting the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem
USA PATRIOT Act
Laws against flag burning
No Child Left Behind / Common Core
Death penalty
Is Against:
Marijuana decriminalization and increased medicinal use
Same sex marriage until 2013
Also:
Board member of Walmart
Bungled single payer health care
E-mail scandal
Race-baited Obama campaign after 2008 SC loss
Threatened super-delegate revolt in 2008
* C'mon. Who is she kidding?
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"I would rather sit on my hands and let the Republicans take the presidency with whatever yahoo they pull from their overstuffed hat "
If Clinton were such a Republican, why have Republicans been throwing so much money against her? You criticize her for tackling health care in the 1990s--- but at least child health passed. Without the Clintons pushing it do you think we would have gotten health care from Republicans? All Bush gave us was an unfunded prescription drug benefit for Medicare with a rule against negotiating drug prices-- was this a gift to Seniors or to large Biotech and Pharma and a cost problem for Medicare?
The original Citizens United case grew out of Republican money directed against Hillary Clinton. Why the countless Benghazi email email Benghazi hearings if her policies wouldn't be dramatically different from those of Republicans??
Democrats who sit home enable Republicans-- Bush in 2000, and the disastrous 2010 election that redistricted the country handing the House of Representatives to the Republicans for (heaven help us) perhaps a decade even in the face of 1 million more people voting for a Democratic Congress in 2012.
Clinton, Biden, Sanders all will advocate legislation that is dramatically different from that of the Republicans. There certainly are differences worthy of strong debate among the Democratic candidates, but they pale, pale, pale between them and the Republicans.
Oh, and by the way: Supreme Court.
If Clinton were such a Republican, why have Republicans been throwing so much money against her? You criticize her for tackling health care in the 1990s--- but at least child health passed. Without the Clintons pushing it do you think we would have gotten health care from Republicans? All Bush gave us was an unfunded prescription drug benefit for Medicare with a rule against negotiating drug prices-- was this a gift to Seniors or to large Biotech and Pharma and a cost problem for Medicare?
The original Citizens United case grew out of Republican money directed against Hillary Clinton. Why the countless Benghazi email email Benghazi hearings if her policies wouldn't be dramatically different from those of Republicans??
Democrats who sit home enable Republicans-- Bush in 2000, and the disastrous 2010 election that redistricted the country handing the House of Representatives to the Republicans for (heaven help us) perhaps a decade even in the face of 1 million more people voting for a Democratic Congress in 2012.
Clinton, Biden, Sanders all will advocate legislation that is dramatically different from that of the Republicans. There certainly are differences worthy of strong debate among the Democratic candidates, but they pale, pale, pale between them and the Republicans.
Oh, and by the way: Supreme Court.
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Biden survived his plagiarized stump speech scandal that would have knocked many off the public stage permanently. But as our own Ted Kennedy proved with his motor vehicle homicide scandal and Barney Frank with his male prostitute scandal, a resilient, gritty enough politician can survive almost anything. And Biden has grit to spare. His biggest potential problem, other than age and his prior medical issues, is his past support of the oxymoronic bankruptcy reform law. He ushered this legislation through Congress at the bidding of his most influential constituents, the massive banks and credit card companies dominating the economy of his home state of Delaware. This "reform" made it almost impossible for millions of working families to get a fresh financial start through what had been the simple, quick bankruptcy relief of the Bankruptcy Code's Chapter 7, resulting in middle and low income earners who have lost their homes and careers. It is a legacy of human wreckage that Biden may be held accountable for if he runs for the White House. And it belies his projected image as a defender of common people.
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Glad that BEANTOWNAH brought up Biden's sponsorship of the BANKRUPTCY REFORM LAW, which contradicts the popular image of Biden as "good old Joe," friend of the working man and woman. The passage of this bill hit many families teetering on the edge of poverty hard. In addition, I have brought up his tendency to plagiarize the words of others, evidenced not only by his theft of words from a British Labor Party politician, but by other instances of plagiarism when Biden was in law school. Nonetheless, with all his faults, Biden is far and away preferable to HRC.The late writer, Mary McCARTHY, once said about Lillian HELLMAN:
"Every word she says is a lie, even "the" and "an."That is the way many voters feel about HRC, and could not imagine voting for her. Thus, between a flawed Biden and a Hillary Clinton who doesn't respect the American people enough to be honest with them on any subject--remember the "vast right wing conspiracy"--most Americans favor Biden.
"Every word she says is a lie, even "the" and "an."That is the way many voters feel about HRC, and could not imagine voting for her. Thus, between a flawed Biden and a Hillary Clinton who doesn't respect the American people enough to be honest with them on any subject--remember the "vast right wing conspiracy"--most Americans favor Biden.
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There is a reason why so many thousands of us are supporting Bernie Sanders. He has a history. He's been loyal to ALL citizens, not just a few wealthy constituents, or only when it was convenient to be loyal. With Mr. Biden's considerable history of family values, I respect him on that issue more than any other. Do I want him as my President? No. I have to say. I do want the Policies and the full Platform that has been established long term now by Bernie Sanders. He, like no other in Congress in recent history, has been significant on standing firm, a character trait I so admire and respect. We have not seen a "standing firm" trait in either Hillary or many other so called democrats. This is why I cannot vote for any of them. Loyalty to the Platform and Policies that would assist in the rights and betterment of the whole nation are what I'm looking for. We won't find that in the GOP or in any other Candidate running for office. We will have that in Mr. Sanders. Period. So, I hope Mr. Biden does not waste the millions it takes to mount a campaign. I would prefer he get on board the Bernie train instead. That won't happen of course, but that only shows me that his loyalty to Hillary is his weakness. Being loyal to the wrong actions of others does not make for a great President, in my opinion. As we've seen in our current President, those who've caved in to the GOP repeatedly lost all our faith and support. I don't want another President I cannot stand firm with.
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I guess you would prefer another war from the Republican side. Nice ethical thinking. It's really just a cop out. Politics must be both idealistic and pragmatic. Hillary has both qualities.
It will be better for the Democratic party if Joe Biden stays out of the presidential race. He is one of the best vice presidents the US has ever had, in my opinion, but he should quit while he is ahead. Between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, the full spectrum of the Democratic party's goals/needs are covered, and Joe Biden does not bring anything new to the table.
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I disagree, he does bring a lot to the table in both experience and personality and demeanor. His only problem is that he is old and he is vice president. If he were younger and not in the Administration he would be on the short list of candidates and very viable.
The real thing holding him back is the danger of splitting the party along class and gender lines assuring the election of a weak Republican nominee. A scenario that ushers in a President Scott Walker runs through a Biden candidacy.
The real thing holding him back is the danger of splitting the party along class and gender lines assuring the election of a weak Republican nominee. A scenario that ushers in a President Scott Walker runs through a Biden candidacy.
So now we have someone from Scranton who wants to be President and someone whose Dad had a cabin near Scranton she rarely visited and pretends she's from Scranton . Or so the script states. I am so tired of pretend.How about someone who expresses their real opinion instead of fully vetted words.
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How about someone who expresses their real opinion instead of fully vetted words.
I agree...and that, of course, is Bernie Sanders!
I agree...and that, of course, is Bernie Sanders!
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This is incredibly exciting! President Obama must be extremely proud knowing that his protege seeks to carry on this legacy of greatness which has been bestowed upon this nation these last 6+ wonderful years.
Vice President Biden has what it takes, a searing intelligence, a deep knowledge of both domestic and foreign policy, the ability and willingness to fight against the republicans, a commanding presence that will both comfort our allies and terrify our enemies on the global stage.
I'm simply delighted!
Vice President Biden has what it takes, a searing intelligence, a deep knowledge of both domestic and foreign policy, the ability and willingness to fight against the republicans, a commanding presence that will both comfort our allies and terrify our enemies on the global stage.
I'm simply delighted!
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Time for the old white guys to step aside this one time.
HRC is, for all practical purposes, a member of the Old White Guys club.
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VP Biden would make a steady, seasoned, pragmatic, honest, decent, trustworthy President with little baggage despite decades in the public eye. He has managed also not to burn his bridges and to work effectively across the aisle, And best of all, he has been a wise, loyal and trusted adviser to Pres. Obama during the most tumultuous and momentous of times and the instability that we are witnessing abroad and at home.
I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
I would vote for him in a heartbeat.
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I really like Bernie Sanders and his message (he's an instigator) and so obviously does the liberal base. I would vote for him. Problems are that he has not been a particularly effective legislator and he would never win a general election - not given the current composition of the American electorate.
I also really like Hillary Clinton and I would vote for her if she were the nominee. I have a gut feeling however, that she also could not win a general election because she has too many negative perceptions. Also, let me blunt, there has been so much opposition to President Obama I don't think the country will elect a woman President right now. To win she would need to convince a significant number of moderates and also working class males to vote for her. She doesn't strongly appeal to those voters - no matter what they might say on a phone call.
Joe Biden would be an excellent President and he has tremendous integrity. He would not only be the most experienced candidate, he has a great relationship with the Hill, his working class roots that would appeal to many centrists, and he is very likable. I think his sometimes lack of "political" timing on public statements shows that he speaks from the heart. People can sense this. He has shown much more discipline in Obama's 2nd term. Of course, he and his family are grieving now for the loss of his son. So only he knows what the right decision is. But I think he has been preparing for this his whole life.
I also really like Hillary Clinton and I would vote for her if she were the nominee. I have a gut feeling however, that she also could not win a general election because she has too many negative perceptions. Also, let me blunt, there has been so much opposition to President Obama I don't think the country will elect a woman President right now. To win she would need to convince a significant number of moderates and also working class males to vote for her. She doesn't strongly appeal to those voters - no matter what they might say on a phone call.
Joe Biden would be an excellent President and he has tremendous integrity. He would not only be the most experienced candidate, he has a great relationship with the Hill, his working class roots that would appeal to many centrists, and he is very likable. I think his sometimes lack of "political" timing on public statements shows that he speaks from the heart. People can sense this. He has shown much more discipline in Obama's 2nd term. Of course, he and his family are grieving now for the loss of his son. So only he knows what the right decision is. But I think he has been preparing for this his whole life.
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Who is telling you that Sanders is not electable? He's by far the best candidate, and it shows in the numbers supporting him. I am half curious whether Biden has been called upon to run by party leaders, to defuse Sanders's support, as a more corporate-acceptable alternative to Clinton. If she continues to crash and burn with voters, they know darn well they're going to need a convenient back-up in place.
Boiling it down, the Democratic objective must be to choose the most electable candidate. If they had a real alternative to Hillary, they should have produced him/her a year ago...it's too late for this discussion, and smells like the usual Democratic tendency to panic.
Biden went nowhere in two previous runs and would embarrass himself in a third. To win in 2016, Democrats must get solidly behind the leader, not add another no-hoper to the mix. Hillary appears to be that leader. You don't have to love a candidate, or want to 'have a beer' with that person.
Biden went nowhere in two previous runs and would embarrass himself in a third. To win in 2016, Democrats must get solidly behind the leader, not add another no-hoper to the mix. Hillary appears to be that leader. You don't have to love a candidate, or want to 'have a beer' with that person.
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This may be Mr. Biden's time considering Hillary may very well be brought to her knees by her own doing. It is very concerning that the media appears to be uninterested in investigating the circumstances surrounding her server.
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Why is he running around asking every one else if he SHOULD run? If HE wants to run he needs to get out there and do it!!
This could prove to be an intractable dilemma. If Joe Biden enters the race, the Dems will have two excellent candidates (I don't count Mrs. Clinton as excellent because she carries way, way too much baggage) who are actual Democrats.
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I urge the Dems to solidify for Hillary!
As Pres she can name Obama to the US Supreme Ct and hopefully and end the 5-4 decisions.
She should also name Sen Biden to be her Sec of State. He would be an excellent choice.
When the Dems last controlled the US Senate, Sen Sanders chaired the Oversight Comm for Veteran Affairs. Once the crisis broke, I emailed him to change the name of the Comm from Oversight to Overlook. His staff never replied.
As Pres she can name Obama to the US Supreme Ct and hopefully and end the 5-4 decisions.
She should also name Sen Biden to be her Sec of State. He would be an excellent choice.
When the Dems last controlled the US Senate, Sen Sanders chaired the Oversight Comm for Veteran Affairs. Once the crisis broke, I emailed him to change the name of the Comm from Oversight to Overlook. His staff never replied.
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Biden, Clinton, Sanders, versus any one of the GOP candidates. I voted for Ronald Reagan for his first term. I won't make that terrible mistake again.
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The only person worthy of the Presidency. Experience ,diplomatic proficiency, image and relatable.
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From the fall of 2012, with President Barack Obama's reelection to the fury of the Republican Hate Machine we have been treated to a non-stop barrage of the vilest vomit from the right wing media, which the Times and so-called 'main-stream-media' has only been too willing to feed off of despite its corrupt and pre-digested stench.
The Koch Machine has been spewing out quarters and attacking Hillary through sock-puppets from the loopy ignoramus semi-illiterate Walker to the erudite and strangely 19th century Cruz. The tabloids have managed to convey their usual fiction, from fatal brain tumors to Clinton knock downs.
So, now the story line is supposed to be in a state known for oatmeal cookies, self-important christian fundamentalist pundits, pig farmers, and Republican senators who look like they eat too many of the former, while pretending to be the latter (take your choice), Hillary Clinton's negative polling numbers are higher than they were half a year ago?
We have been treated to two years of Republican fantasy football and hair pulling, and subtle comments knocking grandmothers, and calling Hillary Clinton a 'witch,' and worse, and 'negative voter impressions' from sexists and racists who aren't going to vote for her anyway, and use 'Joe Biden' as a night club punchline, this is supposed to converts us? Don't think so.
The Koch Machine has been spewing out quarters and attacking Hillary through sock-puppets from the loopy ignoramus semi-illiterate Walker to the erudite and strangely 19th century Cruz. The tabloids have managed to convey their usual fiction, from fatal brain tumors to Clinton knock downs.
So, now the story line is supposed to be in a state known for oatmeal cookies, self-important christian fundamentalist pundits, pig farmers, and Republican senators who look like they eat too many of the former, while pretending to be the latter (take your choice), Hillary Clinton's negative polling numbers are higher than they were half a year ago?
We have been treated to two years of Republican fantasy football and hair pulling, and subtle comments knocking grandmothers, and calling Hillary Clinton a 'witch,' and worse, and 'negative voter impressions' from sexists and racists who aren't going to vote for her anyway, and use 'Joe Biden' as a night club punchline, this is supposed to converts us? Don't think so.
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I love Joe Biden. He is the only VP to really make a useful and valuable position out of that "... bucket of warm spit." He would make a great POTUS -- say in 2000. He should not run in 2016 at the high point of his career. How many have abandoned their drive to climb Everest just yards from the summit? The Presidency is Joe Biden's Everest; no one will think less of him for retiring to the status of Elder Statesman who surely will be called upon to continue his public service in other capacities.
Biden has never done well in these presidential runs, and he shouldn't try again. What, is this a fourth time? The other argument for me is, if Biden were to get in at his advanced age, then Jerry Brown should get in. And Brown has a stellar record as governor his last two terms rescuing California with the same even handed combination of fiscal conservation and very progressive tax policies. Jerry Brown at age 79 would be unbeatable because he is the best of Bernie and Hillary. I love Joe, we all do, but there really is no there there.
Run Joe Run!!
When I read around the various comments on pages on the internet, I see a lot of mention of the Republican 'clown car' of Presidential Hopefuls, and blanket condemnations of the GOP as a party of 'rich old white men'. Then I look to the actual situation, and I see the GOP as a far more diverse roster, by employing something known as the evidence of my senses. Then, I consider the endless list of criminal actions both committed and covered up in recent memory (John Edwards and Jon S Corzine come to mind here), and I wonder if anyone even looks at this situation with clear eyes. I like Biden, and I gave to his campaign, so I'm happy to support the man again and believe he would be an endearing figure as our President. I am, however, fully disgusted by the 2 for 2 record of democratic primary cycles involving the FBI, and the firm though now waffling insistence that HRC is a shoe-in for the Presidency. Then I look at the short list of possibles: Biden belongs there - with a bullet. Sanders, though honest regarding subjects such as U6 unemployment, is appealing, but his telegenics really need a serious tune-up and frankly I'd help out with that. From there we have the ex-mayor of Baltimore, and that's just too easy for the opposition to target for a vast number of reasons - though I do believe Martin O'Malley adds to the campaign simply by insisting on debates.
I hope Joe runs. I supported him early in 2007 and 2008. We need an honest, outspoken Democrat of accomplishment in the race. Hillary will be a convicted felon before the Democratic Convention, and Joe would make a perfect candidate for our Party.
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My support is behind Bernie Sanders but I would welcome a bid from Joe Biden.
Hillary Clinton has made some smart strategic moves of late, like piggybacking on Bernie Sander's call for free public college tuition and laying out a plan to reduce costs for college education and student debt. Good strategically - it will turn out younger voters in greater numbers because they will have something on the line.
But, the lack of enthusiasm so many - including myself - feel about her as a candidate and the negative baggage she carries should give every liberal voter pause.
To me Hillary is a political Jacob Marley; dragging a loaded down chain forged by past behavior - the email and server flap is just the latest ethical misstep she has added to the pile built over a political lifetime.
Hillary Clinton has made some smart strategic moves of late, like piggybacking on Bernie Sander's call for free public college tuition and laying out a plan to reduce costs for college education and student debt. Good strategically - it will turn out younger voters in greater numbers because they will have something on the line.
But, the lack of enthusiasm so many - including myself - feel about her as a candidate and the negative baggage she carries should give every liberal voter pause.
To me Hillary is a political Jacob Marley; dragging a loaded down chain forged by past behavior - the email and server flap is just the latest ethical misstep she has added to the pile built over a political lifetime.
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Gimme a break, not Uncle Joe. He is so lame, even lamer that Jeb Bush. Not somebody who could win - Trump could beat him.
"Save your bullets until you need them" is a standard rule in political campaigns. Intelligence officials have confirmed that both Chinese and Russian hackers (and our government itself) have successfully hacked into government websites carting off huge amounts of privat information. Considering all of the traffic in and out of Hillary's router by highly placed officials, their website would have certainly been targeted by hackers. Maybe the same folks who hacked Sid Bloomentha. So why haven't this email trove been released? Easy. Just hope that Hillary gets elected. Blackmail anybody? We have plenty of bullets to trade..
Hillary, Bernie, O'Malley, and now Biden. And the Dems think the GOP has candidate problems?
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All I know is that my heart jumped for joy, if only for a moment, on rumors that Al Gore was considering. If only...As for Biden, how about a turn at Sec of State or a chair on the SCOTUS? I love the guy but President Joe? Not gonna happen.
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If not Hillary; then Al Gore. He has none of her negative and has many of the things that will attract Bernie-voters. Draft #algore 2016.
I love Joe Biden. He sometimes puts his foot in his mouth, but because he is "unfiltered" I really trust how much he cares about people. Joe Biden wouldn't have been my top choice in 2008, but after 8 years as Vice-President he is seasoned leader. I also believe Hillary Clinton would be a a great President, but I constantly worry, as some other readers have also noted, that another shoe will drop. The way she handled the State Department emails is very worrisome. I would like it if Joe Biden was in the race so that if Hillary Clinton self-destructs we have another great person to chose from. Either of them would be great. The only Republicans in the race I respect so far is John Kasich and Marco Rubio, who have the decency to show some class.
Hillary's growing server issues may affect her eventual electability - and could be starting to scare some of the Democratic Party establishment away from her. Joe would provide a "moderate" alternative. If he does decide to get in the race, it wil be interesting to see if he peels more votes from Hillary or Bernie.
Bernie seems to cut into Hillary's lead every week. Is it because voters are connecting to Bernie's pro-middle-class message, or are they just plain wary of Hillary? A Joe Biden campaign would go a long way to answer that question.
Bernie seems to cut into Hillary's lead every week. Is it because voters are connecting to Bernie's pro-middle-class message, or are they just plain wary of Hillary? A Joe Biden campaign would go a long way to answer that question.
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That a good man of integrity and compassion like Joe Biden is in politics at all is astounding.
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He is too old. Other candidates are also too old and that fact doesn't change anything about Biden.
The voters will have to want a 3rd Obama term ? Obama usually has a 47% approval rating except during election time.
The voters will have to want a 3rd Obama term ? Obama usually has a 47% approval rating except during election time.
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Our political system is based upon participation and competition, not entitlement.
Our political system is based upon accomplishment, not celebrity.
Those two reasons alone are more than sufficient to endorse a Biden candidacy. In fact, they beg for it.
Those who say Biden doesn't have a chance, let the campaign prove that, not the polsters. Let the people make their choice.
Those that say he should not run because he did this or that or voted this way or that are being totally unrealistic. Whose life is a perfect record? Who hasn't done things they wish they hadn't? Who hasn't grown from their mistakes? Remember the old saying, "Those that have never made any mistakes never tried to do anything."
Wisdom grows out of experience, not bloviation, not blind ideology. It comes from doing, not just talking about doing.
Run Joe.
Our political system is based upon accomplishment, not celebrity.
Those two reasons alone are more than sufficient to endorse a Biden candidacy. In fact, they beg for it.
Those who say Biden doesn't have a chance, let the campaign prove that, not the polsters. Let the people make their choice.
Those that say he should not run because he did this or that or voted this way or that are being totally unrealistic. Whose life is a perfect record? Who hasn't done things they wish they hadn't? Who hasn't grown from their mistakes? Remember the old saying, "Those that have never made any mistakes never tried to do anything."
Wisdom grows out of experience, not bloviation, not blind ideology. It comes from doing, not just talking about doing.
Run Joe.
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Voters in both parties are trapped. Any candidate with his/her integrity intact (e.g. Sanders) can not get the support of the party machine or of the media. Any one that's considered a "serious" candidate by the media or the money (Clinton or Biden) is part of the machine. Trump is the machine's fake solution for the GOP; Biden could offer his integrity--relatively less fake than Clinton's--for the Democrats. But none of these people are game changers, except Sanders.
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Better look again. Sanders has pulled ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire. Look at the long term trend. For Sanders it is up. For Clinton it is down the drain.
Joe Biden would be a better candidate than at least 20 of those already saddled and running. But I hope he doesn't run. He'd be a good POTUS, but that position is politicized and targeted in a way he doesn't deserve. On the other hand, as a humane and wise man unshackled in office by Boehner (not an inch) and Gowdy (beloved lying leaker), he is uniquely suited to launching a different task—the return of some level of collegiality to American life.
We can look at the lives of past presidents, and can celebrate the work of Carter and Clinton. We can look in vain for equal success in the lives of ex-VPs. JB might make a memorable and valuable mark there. He knows Congress well, and as an unaligned facilitator, he might encourage the formation of productive coalitions.
Would either of the Koch brothers meet with JB and offer an intelligible defense of their atavistic grasping at power? If not, what might they do to him in office? Would Rupert Murdoch meet with JB and explain, beyond dollars, his reasons for launching his attack dogs on thinking Americans? If not, then think what Murdoch’s mercenaries would unleash on Joe in the White House.
This may be a pipe-dream. But the congenital sense of entitlement among American whites is pushing us towards catastrophic civil disruption, and perhaps civil war. We need a Joe Biden to help address that.
We can look at the lives of past presidents, and can celebrate the work of Carter and Clinton. We can look in vain for equal success in the lives of ex-VPs. JB might make a memorable and valuable mark there. He knows Congress well, and as an unaligned facilitator, he might encourage the formation of productive coalitions.
Would either of the Koch brothers meet with JB and offer an intelligible defense of their atavistic grasping at power? If not, what might they do to him in office? Would Rupert Murdoch meet with JB and explain, beyond dollars, his reasons for launching his attack dogs on thinking Americans? If not, then think what Murdoch’s mercenaries would unleash on Joe in the White House.
This may be a pipe-dream. But the congenital sense of entitlement among American whites is pushing us towards catastrophic civil disruption, and perhaps civil war. We need a Joe Biden to help address that.
I am ashamed (but not surprised) that Biden is getting so much press without even declaring a run, yet Sanders is building a platform of the American Dream and has only received passing mention. Is this nation's media as afraid of such a phenomenal populist uprising as the GOP? Trump has gotten more coverage and he's a lunatic.
We need to demand better reporting. This politicotainment has got to stop.
We need to demand better reporting. This politicotainment has got to stop.
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This is not a race of love. It is a political contest which has two main components:
(A) the person
(B) the person's program
I like Joe too but what is his history and character?
For the most part he has a good history and his character seems unassailable. A plus!
What is his program?
Is he for free education?
Is he for a universal one payer health insurance system?
Is he for concrete, meaningful steps to end the immoral economic disparities?
Is he for rights of gays, people of color, immigrants, etc?
Right now there is only one viable choice and one sensible program: Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders' program.
(A) the person
(B) the person's program
I like Joe too but what is his history and character?
For the most part he has a good history and his character seems unassailable. A plus!
What is his program?
Is he for free education?
Is he for a universal one payer health insurance system?
Is he for concrete, meaningful steps to end the immoral economic disparities?
Is he for rights of gays, people of color, immigrants, etc?
Right now there is only one viable choice and one sensible program: Bernie Sanders and Bernie Sanders' program.
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Let's face it, Hillary Clinton is in trouble. The DNC knows it. The well-heeled contributors know it. And of course, the RNC knows it. Without her, there is no establishment candidate in the race, and that raises the spectre of a McGovernesque disaster, should Sanders be the only remaining person to gain the nomination. Biden may very well get into the race, "for the sake of the Party," but what kind of campaign would he run?
We cannot afford Bernie Sanders; I do not know what the answer is. No one is killing social security although their is talk it will not be solvent in the coming years due to all of the social security disability scams and not the good paying jobs there were in the past. The younger generation do not have the jobs nor the income to strongly support the base. That is one big price America will pay.
Joe Biden should enter the race. It's not too late! Everyone I know would support him. He will not have the trust deficit problem of HRC!
We Americans of all suasions are united in wishing Joe Biden heart's ease from his burden of grief - a burden he has borne with strength and dignity not just now but over the decades since he first was sworn in as Senator from Delaware at his two sons' hospital bedsides in 1973. Joe Robinette Biden, a beloved VEEP, is more than qualified to be our President. He will decide whether or not to run for President against Hillary and the other Democrats who have already declared their candidacies for POTUS. Mrs. Clinton's campaign will be in dire straits if Joe decides to run as he is more qualified and perhaps more likeable by more voters on both sides of the aisle than is Mrs. Clinton. And his baggage is light as the foam on the ocean. One wonders if President Obama would be eligible to run as Joe Biden's Vice-President? He is surely qualified - but perhaps he has had enough of the obstructionism, hatred and racial bias from the GOP to want to retire into an Ivory Tower or a shower of Plumeria leis in Hawaii or somewhere easeful in his post-presidential life. We have not had a better leader than Barack Obama since Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and Barack Obama is still young enough and might have the heart to campaign and win again. Run, Joe run? The decision is Joe Biden's to make. A man in full, he has earned the Presidency as no other Democrat or Republican has done. It's still very early days in the 2016 Campaign - the moving finger hasn't yet writ.
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Joe - You have my vote!
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Joey Biden?
Now we all know good old Joe would provide much humor on the campaign trail. But really, can't the Democrats find anything other that ossified dinosaurs to run for their nomination?
Now we all know good old Joe would provide much humor on the campaign trail. But really, can't the Democrats find anything other that ossified dinosaurs to run for their nomination?
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I was up last night and saw Scary Movie 4. For the life of me, I thought that was Joe Biden playing President Harris, until the credits showed it was Leslie Nielson.
Too bad Nielson died, I think he'd make a sounder President than Uncle Joe.
Too bad Nielson died, I think he'd make a sounder President than Uncle Joe.
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I've been an Obama supporter since day one, but I've never been much for the Clintons. Joe Biden has impressed me with his work as VP, I think he is electable and could maybe save this country from an uglier future. I said a long time ago when it seemed completely impossible so I'll say it again, "Joe Biden for President."
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Joesph Bide is a respectable man and a seasoed politican, but his time to run for president has passed, and is not an alternative to Hillary Clinton. If the media would stop bashing Hillary pand focus more on her agenda perhaps voters would have a different perspective of her candidacy. The programs she has discussed so far answer some of the pressing problems we face and it is high time we listen to that side of the story. The Republicans can't win with anyone of the candidates now running. The overall mood of the country is focus on closing the economic divide and Hillary's agenda addresses those concerns. Bernie Sanders is far too progressive for the general population. Go Hillary Go!
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Joe Biden was in charge of overseeing Oblama's "shovel ready" half trillion dollar infrastructure "investment" program, to make sure that the money was well spent. Never heard a word about it after. Joe, how about making a report on it to us now; then we'll decide whether you should run.
On the other hand, in the early days of our invasion of Iraq, Biden correctly urged, in a Times op ed piece, that Iraq be divided into three countries -- Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis. He should get some credit for that insight.
Also, Clinton's absurd $350 billion education-subsidy plan is sufficient reason to want someone else to run against her.
On the other hand, in the early days of our invasion of Iraq, Biden correctly urged, in a Times op ed piece, that Iraq be divided into three countries -- Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis. He should get some credit for that insight.
Also, Clinton's absurd $350 billion education-subsidy plan is sufficient reason to want someone else to run against her.
Most credible economists believe the "shovel ready" half trillion dollar infrastructure "investment" program was a success, but should have been a lot bigger.
Your "interesting" assessment of the program's success is consistent with your conclusion that higher education is not a priority.
Your "interesting" assessment of the program's success is consistent with your conclusion that higher education is not a priority.
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The Democrats like the Republicans are finding it hard to move in to the future. Bernie Sanders represents the future. The establishment Democrats are scared, Hillary Clinton is some where in between the old and new; so Joe Biden, a good establishment man, is their backup.
Democrats don't be afraid of the future. The future will happen anyway! Eight years ago, who would have thought an African-American man with a non English name would be president?
Democrats don't be afraid of the future. The future will happen anyway! Eight years ago, who would have thought an African-American man with a non English name would be president?
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Run Hillary Run. As fast as you can. They can't catch you, you're the gingerbread woman. But you just can't run fast enough. Joe Biden smells the gingerbread and he will soon be on your heals, along with federal judges, prosecutors, the intelligence community, the FBI, congressional committees, Bernie Saunders and a host of others. Does anyone really believe that the NSA does't have all your emails? With all this pressure and fall from grace, the only question is, when does Hillary come apart? It won't be pretty.
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I hope his common sense prevails. No one should take on that job at age 74. It's beyond stupid. Most of us who are forced into retirement by 60 have less than zero interest in a 74 year old telling us he is up for that job into his '80's. Get a life. Enjoy your life.
Biden is the only one who can win this election for the Dems.
Hillary is such a turn off, even her coughs are scripted. If we are to have a woman president let it be one who we like and who is real.
Bernie, to whom I sent $50, is as real as they come. However, with all due respect, there is no way in hell an avowed socialist, atheist is going to become the next president.
Biden is real. He connects with people. He takes the Amtrak to Washington, DC from Delaware daily and is really a mensch. The man is not scripted and has all the bona fides to be president.
I want him to be the next president.
Otherwise, we may end up with a Republican which would be a disaster.
Hillary is such a turn off, even her coughs are scripted. If we are to have a woman president let it be one who we like and who is real.
Bernie, to whom I sent $50, is as real as they come. However, with all due respect, there is no way in hell an avowed socialist, atheist is going to become the next president.
Biden is real. He connects with people. He takes the Amtrak to Washington, DC from Delaware daily and is really a mensch. The man is not scripted and has all the bona fides to be president.
I want him to be the next president.
Otherwise, we may end up with a Republican which would be a disaster.
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This is a really, really tough one, and I dearly love the VP. But does political ove and admiration translate to genuine support for an election? Would I--and by extension "we"--love Biden if he found himself with the reins of government and all the unhappy consequences of his decisions on disparate audiences?
Look, as VP, Biden has never had to endure the blast of public attacks on specific policies. In his role, he cheerleads, not initiates. As senator he advised and consented, not had to lead.
But I think the most important reason of all is his emotional resilience at this point. Is it fair to all of us to create a campaign to fill the hole created by personal tragedy? When I read sentences like this, "Biden described the recent death of his son Beau as an “open wound” that had not begun to heal, and was grappling with whether he could devote his full energy to a campaign" it makes me wince. Between age and grief, can Biden thrust himself into a public spotlight that never lets up?
I don't know the answers, but the fact he's contemplating this only makes me realize how totally vulnerable Hillary Clinton is. The relentless drumbeat of attacks on the email server and other stuff is making my head throb. I'm coming to believe she should exit stage left (having entered stage right) and open up the field.
Problem is, the Democratic field is nearly empty, while the Republican field is overflowing with a bunch of clowns, none of whom is ready for prime time.
Look, as VP, Biden has never had to endure the blast of public attacks on specific policies. In his role, he cheerleads, not initiates. As senator he advised and consented, not had to lead.
But I think the most important reason of all is his emotional resilience at this point. Is it fair to all of us to create a campaign to fill the hole created by personal tragedy? When I read sentences like this, "Biden described the recent death of his son Beau as an “open wound” that had not begun to heal, and was grappling with whether he could devote his full energy to a campaign" it makes me wince. Between age and grief, can Biden thrust himself into a public spotlight that never lets up?
I don't know the answers, but the fact he's contemplating this only makes me realize how totally vulnerable Hillary Clinton is. The relentless drumbeat of attacks on the email server and other stuff is making my head throb. I'm coming to believe she should exit stage left (having entered stage right) and open up the field.
Problem is, the Democratic field is nearly empty, while the Republican field is overflowing with a bunch of clowns, none of whom is ready for prime time.
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Here are a couple of reasons Joe might be a better alternative than Hillary.
1. We all know that picking on Democrats is what the Republicans do--because what else can they do, since they have been running on empty for decades now. They will have a field day with Hillary and already have lots of ammunition on hand that they will throw at her to make sure nothing positive gets done for the people of this country. Diversion by bullying is the name of the GOP game, and they are good at it--esp. with the help of the Fox and obnoxious right-wing propaganda mouthpieces to reinforce the GOP agenda.
But unlike Hillary, I think there would be a backlash from the citizenry if the GOP picks on Joe. He has been a senator for so long and a good colleague; he has been through so much in life that we can all empathize with; and I know some Republicans who say they would vote for Joe because they are thoroughly disgusted with the embarrassing clown show the GOP puts on.
2. Hillary is a magnet for trouble (partly of her and Bill's lapses) and draws endless opposition. Joe is seasoned, has a good sense of humor, and has a calming influence.
(Note: Obama has a calming influence too and has done wonders to steady our ship of state under assault from all directions. But the Republicans have been relentless in the despicable way they have treated our first black president, and we all know exactly why they do it.)
I hope Joe gives a presidential run a try. Can Hillary best him?
1. We all know that picking on Democrats is what the Republicans do--because what else can they do, since they have been running on empty for decades now. They will have a field day with Hillary and already have lots of ammunition on hand that they will throw at her to make sure nothing positive gets done for the people of this country. Diversion by bullying is the name of the GOP game, and they are good at it--esp. with the help of the Fox and obnoxious right-wing propaganda mouthpieces to reinforce the GOP agenda.
But unlike Hillary, I think there would be a backlash from the citizenry if the GOP picks on Joe. He has been a senator for so long and a good colleague; he has been through so much in life that we can all empathize with; and I know some Republicans who say they would vote for Joe because they are thoroughly disgusted with the embarrassing clown show the GOP puts on.
2. Hillary is a magnet for trouble (partly of her and Bill's lapses) and draws endless opposition. Joe is seasoned, has a good sense of humor, and has a calming influence.
(Note: Obama has a calming influence too and has done wonders to steady our ship of state under assault from all directions. But the Republicans have been relentless in the despicable way they have treated our first black president, and we all know exactly why they do it.)
I hope Joe gives a presidential run a try. Can Hillary best him?
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I love your description, " ( partly of her and Bill's lapses ) ". Amazing how all the things that happened in Arkansas, and later on in the White House can be called ' lapses '.
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Joe is a buffoon who has made many ridiculous calls and statements which matter not when you are VP, but everything when you are POTUS.
Please run!!! You have integrity, a comprehensive understanding of world events and the legislation knowledge on how to make Congress work, especially for the middle class. I extend condolences for you loss. However, your supporters have your back! Our country desperately needs you to run for President!
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Joe, we love you. Now, please get out of the way so we can elect the first woman president, Hillary. Its destined. And you're becoming a distraction.
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Sorry, it isn't destined. She is sadly a very flawed candidate. As a progressive Dem, I have NO intention of voting for her in the primaries. Bernie is my man. I don't think VP Biden should enter the race.
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Hillary's past will sink her!!
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Grace, very few democrats trust Hillary, and the general public doesn't trust her either. She is no longer "the smartest woman in America".
I certainly hope we are NOT destined to have such an ethically and morally challenged president.
I certainly hope we are NOT destined to have such an ethically and morally challenged president.
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Biden can jump into the fray if he has enough Pac money to support an initial announcement to run. That I suspect would be well down the road where there will be pent up demand for him to run when Hillary effectively mired down by the justice department over her illegal email server containing Govt secrets and what she did with them.
With all due respect to Senators Clinton and Sanders, Vice-President Biden brings experience, directness and compassion to the process. He would make a very good President. I hope he does run. He would have my full support.
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Unless Biden vigorously attacks Clinton, it seems most likely that he's just trying to blunt Sanders' growing momentum.
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I like Joe Biden a lot, but the harsh truth is that he is too old and too tired to be president. Before people respond with a PC attitude in defense of older people, I suggest they look at how fast Bill Clinton, GWB and Obama aged in office. The stresses of that office are just enormous. It is too bad, because Hillary (AKA GWB's Iraq war poodle) just ain't gonna make with voters.
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Remember Dan Quayle, whose career the pro-big government media destroyed because, well, because they didn't like him and they could?
You know, the mainstream media. The professionals who bring you the news that is never really fair and balanced, The wizards of smart and the sophisticates who stonewall the Planned Parenthood scandal because the unwashed public just doesn't understand why responsible journalism has to ignore stories like that but must play up Cecil the Lion and Tom Brady's role in Deflategate.
Yes, the dependable liberal biased media will clean up old Joe and fix his image problems for him. If he makes it to the debates against whoever emerges from the Republican pack, Biden will need a Candy Crowley to do a tag team number with him against the right-winger.
Romney was caught so flat-footed by Obama and the moderator doing a dance number on the truth! Poor Mitt stood open-mouthed and pushed a pencil around on his lectern while his campaign swirled down the toilet.
You just can't get away with that facing Trump. Joe B. will need lotsa help as well and he will get it.
First the drive-bys need to tidy up the loose end of finishing off Hillary without offending her stalwarts so much they stay home. They will also have to fend off political zombies emerging from the grave like the algore. Imagine the algore campaigning without Tipper--not a good idea.
Climate change really needs to be finessed by the left and Joe can stick to a narrative like a loyal dog.
You know, the mainstream media. The professionals who bring you the news that is never really fair and balanced, The wizards of smart and the sophisticates who stonewall the Planned Parenthood scandal because the unwashed public just doesn't understand why responsible journalism has to ignore stories like that but must play up Cecil the Lion and Tom Brady's role in Deflategate.
Yes, the dependable liberal biased media will clean up old Joe and fix his image problems for him. If he makes it to the debates against whoever emerges from the Republican pack, Biden will need a Candy Crowley to do a tag team number with him against the right-winger.
Romney was caught so flat-footed by Obama and the moderator doing a dance number on the truth! Poor Mitt stood open-mouthed and pushed a pencil around on his lectern while his campaign swirled down the toilet.
You just can't get away with that facing Trump. Joe B. will need lotsa help as well and he will get it.
First the drive-bys need to tidy up the loose end of finishing off Hillary without offending her stalwarts so much they stay home. They will also have to fend off political zombies emerging from the grave like the algore. Imagine the algore campaigning without Tipper--not a good idea.
Climate change really needs to be finessed by the left and Joe can stick to a narrative like a loyal dog.
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Run Joe, run! Anyone but Hillary.
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If this helps Joe Biden out of his emotional slump, I'm all for it. But the American public has given Mr. Biden two good, long looks at being President, in 1988, and in 2008, and neither time was there much enthusiasm for his prospects. I can't see how this period of time would be much different. Also, him entering the race with put him in a battle against Hillary Clinton's knife fighters. This should give him pause. Joe, is a good man and a solid Democrat, but he will lose any battle with the Clinton minions, without much to show for it afterwards. No policy initiatives, no ambassadorships. I think he should retire and write his memoirs. I'd rather not see him get beat up.
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I wouldn't vote for Joe Biden even if he was running for dog catcher.
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The Democrats might as well add the bungling court jester Joe Biden to the circus.
For eons before now, few Democrats ever would have considered him for even a second. Naturally, if he were a Republican, the Democrats would eviscerate him 24/7.
For eons before now, few Democrats ever would have considered him for even a second. Naturally, if he were a Republican, the Democrats would eviscerate him 24/7.
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Yeah, but your side has a dozen or more "court jesters" (I prefer to call them clowns) competing for your nomination. And they compete with one another to see who can spout the meanest, most thoughtless and patently false statements that they or their advisers can think up.
Say it ain't so Joe. Endorse Bernie Sanders and lets try to get America on track.
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With 8 years as VP and decades as senator, Joe Biden would undoubtedly be the most qualified presidential candidate in recent history. In terms of resume-strength, Biden's a shoe-in for president. And he's certainly got fire in his gut, having run not once but twice. Neither of the failed attempts are negatives: in 1988 the eventual democratic victor Dukakis lost decisively to Bush, and in 2008, Biden lost to Obama, his biggest supporter today.
So yes, the ducks are neatly lined-up for Joe Biden this time. He could still blow it though, execution is everything. But the odds are firmly on his side.
Run Joe! The country needs you.
So yes, the ducks are neatly lined-up for Joe Biden this time. He could still blow it though, execution is everything. But the odds are firmly on his side.
Run Joe! The country needs you.
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We need you to lead Joe. I'm sorry Beau is gone but his life matters, not his death.
Be a soldier. Fight the good fight. Millions of lives depend on people like you.
Be a soldier. Fight the good fight. Millions of lives depend on people like you.
While I would like nothing better than to vote for and see the first female president in my lifetime, Hillary Clinton makes it difficult for me, as I read the stories of her imperial actions around her private server emails while she was Secretary of State.
What is up with you, Hillary? I am left to wonder “why haven’t you figured this stuff out yet?” You knew the press and the Republicans would be gunning for you. I had high hopes you weren't self-destructive like Bill. But now, as I watch the Clinton froth rising to the top of the glass again, I can come to only one conclusion: you are as self-destructive as Bill. There is no other explanation. You knew all of this would be exposed if you ran yet you did it anyway. Why? I want to vote for someone who has the desire to lead, like Obama had and has. I do not want a coronation of a reckless leader who learned "leadership" from her reckless husband.
You had 8 years, Hillary! 8 years to clean up your act and come strong out of the gate. Now you’ll be sniped at from this point on. I know, you would have been sniped at anyway but you didn’t have to make it so easy for the opposition, did you? What is your problem?
Run Joe, Run!
What is up with you, Hillary? I am left to wonder “why haven’t you figured this stuff out yet?” You knew the press and the Republicans would be gunning for you. I had high hopes you weren't self-destructive like Bill. But now, as I watch the Clinton froth rising to the top of the glass again, I can come to only one conclusion: you are as self-destructive as Bill. There is no other explanation. You knew all of this would be exposed if you ran yet you did it anyway. Why? I want to vote for someone who has the desire to lead, like Obama had and has. I do not want a coronation of a reckless leader who learned "leadership" from her reckless husband.
You had 8 years, Hillary! 8 years to clean up your act and come strong out of the gate. Now you’ll be sniped at from this point on. I know, you would have been sniped at anyway but you didn’t have to make it so easy for the opposition, did you? What is your problem?
Run Joe, Run!
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Making something out of nothing. This is what the Republicans always do and it is quite convincing.
Horse Bootley, your argument makes it plain why it would be foolish to vote for Hillary Clinton. To answer your hilarious but profound questions as to why she thought she could get away with being just as self-destructive as Bill and be nominated, that's what feeling entitled and invincible does to the rich and famous.
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America needs a tsunami of a sea change with a complete overhaul of foreign policy and a drastic change in economic policy.
Changes could include a divorce from Israel, a reset in economic policy, a new tax structure to rebuild the country and pay down national debt, and a complete overhaul of the public educational system.
If Joe Biden can present these drastic changes as part of his campaign, he could incite the hope in the country Obama promised but didn't deliver.
His positive demeanor could break through the cynicism that is strangling the country and inject energy in Americans!
Changes could include a divorce from Israel, a reset in economic policy, a new tax structure to rebuild the country and pay down national debt, and a complete overhaul of the public educational system.
If Joe Biden can present these drastic changes as part of his campaign, he could incite the hope in the country Obama promised but didn't deliver.
His positive demeanor could break through the cynicism that is strangling the country and inject energy in Americans!
Joe Biden is far too smart and caring to turn his back on Israel.
To see Joe Biden (a man knows just about everything and everyone, in Washington) jump into the Democratic race would be refreshing; especially so, after seeing the Republican Seventeen Ring Circus in action.
What a contrast he would be, when compared to the Republican's motley crew, where candidates scramble to get up on each others back by yaking about how they have no idea about anything at all; or better yet, brag about how much they have already hurt workers in their own state.
To be fair, there is one place where Republicans do come together with a cohesive policy - the notion that the only acceptable form of population control is Police Gunfire.
What a contrast he would be, when compared to the Republican's motley crew, where candidates scramble to get up on each others back by yaking about how they have no idea about anything at all; or better yet, brag about how much they have already hurt workers in their own state.
To be fair, there is one place where Republicans do come together with a cohesive policy - the notion that the only acceptable form of population control is Police Gunfire.
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Oh goodness, look at every commenter pretending there isn't a candidate in the race who's drawing rock star crowds. Get real people, the only reason the Biden trial balloon is being floated is because the establishment's candidate, Clinton, is in a free fall and the Oligarchs desperately want to siphon some of that anti-Clinton (which is really anti-establishment) votes away from the Sanders juggernaut. It will backfire.
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Perhaps Joe jumping in is a way for Obama to stick it to the Clintons who treated him so badly. The Clintons are notoriously nasty to those who get in their way, but Mr. Biden is one person who is not afraid of them.
Please, get a reality check. Sanders is hardly a serious candidate even if a few voters come to hear him in small primaries. The man is an atheist, a socialist, from a tiny state. It's silly.
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Biden would make a great candidate for vice-president for Hillary.
Yes, the democrats certainly need an alternative to Hillary Clinton. Her ties to Wall Street and big money are NOT what America needs right now.
Bernie Sanders has my full support. Joe Biden is a good man and would be seriously considered, IF he were to tackle the issues Sanders has at the top of his agenda.
It's doubtful that Biden could build a campaign without having to grovel for money from the same wealthy donors as Clinton. Once again, another bribed politician is NOT what America needs right now. It's a Catch-22 for Biden and any others.
Bernie Sanders has my full support. Joe Biden is a good man and would be seriously considered, IF he were to tackle the issues Sanders has at the top of his agenda.
It's doubtful that Biden could build a campaign without having to grovel for money from the same wealthy donors as Clinton. Once again, another bribed politician is NOT what America needs right now. It's a Catch-22 for Biden and any others.
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Biden's your lovable uncle you don't take seriously. He's an also-ran, comic relief.
There's a quick short list that scares me a lot more-- for both electability and politics: Warren, Sanders, Clinton, Gore, Kerry.
I'll take Biden over any of them, esp. Warren, who offers nothing other than "banks are evil" and "I'm an angry feminist."
It'd be nice after the last 8 years to have someone competent, intelligent, and with a proven record like Mike Bloomberg.
There's a quick short list that scares me a lot more-- for both electability and politics: Warren, Sanders, Clinton, Gore, Kerry.
I'll take Biden over any of them, esp. Warren, who offers nothing other than "banks are evil" and "I'm an angry feminist."
It'd be nice after the last 8 years to have someone competent, intelligent, and with a proven record like Mike Bloomberg.
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Don't you think we should be a bit upset at what the banks, investment houses and backroom financial gurus did to bring the last crash on. And there's more than a sneaking suspicion that they are going to set us up to take another tumble. Hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think so.
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Biden is a regular guy. Hillary and the President aren't regular guys. The country could use a regular guy.
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Dream team: Biden/Clinton with Bernie (and Gore?) somehow all on board. If they could all get together to defeat whatever the Republicans decide to throw up on the ballot then we just might get a chance at arresting the frightening slide that SCOTUS is taking to the hard right. If we get a Republican POTUS, we get a 40 yr old Scalia wannabe appointed to the court for the next 40 years to replace Ginsberg. ACA, marriage equality, and abortion are all done then and everyone knows it.
Republican POTUS guarantees war with Iran, repeal of ACA, tax cuts for the wealthy, decimation of the social safety net, medicare and Social Security slashed and a whole lot of other pain for most Americans. Guaranteed.
Don't even worry about Trump-enjoy his circus show now at your peril. Bush III/Walker ticket will be the Koch dream team and the rich will rejoice and the rest of us will suffer.
Republican POTUS guarantees war with Iran, repeal of ACA, tax cuts for the wealthy, decimation of the social safety net, medicare and Social Security slashed and a whole lot of other pain for most Americans. Guaranteed.
Don't even worry about Trump-enjoy his circus show now at your peril. Bush III/Walker ticket will be the Koch dream team and the rich will rejoice and the rest of us will suffer.
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don't buy the hype on war with Iran - that's Obama's false choice. There are alternatives to legitimizing Iran's nukes.
Not at all a Dream Team. Sorry, but Hillary has too, too much baggage and is in the pocket of Wall Street. Sanders/Warren is a Dream Team.
Joe Biden has shown himself to be an honest and decent man and a staunch supporter of Ukraine in the face of Russian neo-fascist invasion. He has my vote.
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Great, more establishment nothingness like we got with Obama. More selling out to banks, more GOP-lite. No Thanks. Bernie Sanders by a trillion miles.
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Biden is making a mistake. He did not do well the last time and he will not emerge this time either. If he tries, he will be remembered as a three time loser as a candidate, rather than the friendly politician and the efficient vice-president he was. I also can't think of any new or different programs he could propose to excite the voters. That role is being played by Sanders. Sanders would provide a stark contrast to the possible Republican candidate but he is not sufficiently well-known across the country to get the nomination. Joe, do yourself a favor and keep enjoying your present job and your family.
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Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War, the repeal of Glass-Steagall, and banking legislation that makes it harder for individuals to declare bankruptcy.
Bernie Sanders voted against that legislation. Bernie is not for sale. He's our only hope for change.
Go Bernie!
Bernie Sanders voted against that legislation. Bernie is not for sale. He's our only hope for change.
Go Bernie!
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I love Bernie. I was also very fond of the Dukakis administration. And the Mondale administration was a real high point. And who can forget what great Presidents McGovern and Humphrey were? Or Stevenson?
I'm probably more socialist than Sanders and would love love love love to think that the US would, in a general election, vote someone like him in.
But I see zero evidence that it would. From six minutes after he captured the nomination, the airwaves would be plastered 24/7 with ads howling about SOCIALISM! and how Sanders WANTS TO TURN THE US INTO THE SOVIET UNION!!!
All nonsense of course. But in a country in which significant numbers of people still believe President Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, that climate change is a hoax, that evolution is a lie, that the US is ordained by God to be the world's supreme nation, that more guns make mass shootings somehow less likely, and that Donald Trump is qualified to be President, lies are easily sold.
Bernie would win the fifteen or sixteen bluest states for 185 - 205 Electoral College votes. If the GOP nominates one of the more clownish members of the weirdo fact-free cabal, he might pick up a two or three more and get up to about 237. But he won't win a single southern state -- including FL -- and purple states like PA and OH and IA aren't going to vote for a SOCIALIST!!! There aren't enough college students and professors in those states to put him over the top.
I love him but he, sadly, won't be President.
I'm probably more socialist than Sanders and would love love love love to think that the US would, in a general election, vote someone like him in.
But I see zero evidence that it would. From six minutes after he captured the nomination, the airwaves would be plastered 24/7 with ads howling about SOCIALISM! and how Sanders WANTS TO TURN THE US INTO THE SOVIET UNION!!!
All nonsense of course. But in a country in which significant numbers of people still believe President Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, that climate change is a hoax, that evolution is a lie, that the US is ordained by God to be the world's supreme nation, that more guns make mass shootings somehow less likely, and that Donald Trump is qualified to be President, lies are easily sold.
Bernie would win the fifteen or sixteen bluest states for 185 - 205 Electoral College votes. If the GOP nominates one of the more clownish members of the weirdo fact-free cabal, he might pick up a two or three more and get up to about 237. But he won't win a single southern state -- including FL -- and purple states like PA and OH and IA aren't going to vote for a SOCIALIST!!! There aren't enough college students and professors in those states to put him over the top.
I love him but he, sadly, won't be President.
Vote for Bernie and get a GOP POTUS.
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"Joe Biden voted for the Iraq War, the repeal of Glass-Steagall..."
Almost all Democratic senators voted for the Iraq War (based on lies fed them by Bush Cheney) and also to repeal Glass-Steagall, a Bill Clinton idea (almost 20 years ago!), clearly a terrible mistake and one most would acknowledge as such looking back. As such, those 'indictments' of Biden really don't mean much.
But Biden pushed for Dodd-Franks, pushed Obama's policies on gay rights, and generally pushed progressive causes as VP. He also negotiated budget deals with the Repubs to keep them from shutting down the government, and has been an effective leader with Congress--something that's needed to get anything done, much less anything progressive!
I like Sanders--and wish he had a prayer of winning--but face facts, he wouldn't have been elected to the Senate in any other state than Vermont and has NO (zero, zip, nada) chance of carrying a national vote in a presidential collection.
If Sanders did somehow get nominated, it would be McGovern (whom I voted for!) all over again! Are you ready for a far more right-wing version of Nixon in the White House?
Almost all Democratic senators voted for the Iraq War (based on lies fed them by Bush Cheney) and also to repeal Glass-Steagall, a Bill Clinton idea (almost 20 years ago!), clearly a terrible mistake and one most would acknowledge as such looking back. As such, those 'indictments' of Biden really don't mean much.
But Biden pushed for Dodd-Franks, pushed Obama's policies on gay rights, and generally pushed progressive causes as VP. He also negotiated budget deals with the Repubs to keep them from shutting down the government, and has been an effective leader with Congress--something that's needed to get anything done, much less anything progressive!
I like Sanders--and wish he had a prayer of winning--but face facts, he wouldn't have been elected to the Senate in any other state than Vermont and has NO (zero, zip, nada) chance of carrying a national vote in a presidential collection.
If Sanders did somehow get nominated, it would be McGovern (whom I voted for!) all over again! Are you ready for a far more right-wing version of Nixon in the White House?
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Biden would offer the voters the honesty and sincerity, attributes which Hillary Clinton sorely lacks. The democratic party would then have viable general election choices and in the event that Clinton is subsumed by the growing email scandal, Biden would be a formidable general election candidate.
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What do the three Democrates have in common? 70+ doesn't bode well.
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After Old Joe's time as VP, he should take his generous government pension and disappear.
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The email issue is a Republican made bruhaa over not very much. I wish she had the ability to cleanly cut issues from her past.
Based on Biden's prior runs for President, he was not a big vote getter. Also he has a long past for the Republicans to nitpick as they are with Hillary.
Based on Biden's prior runs for President, he was not a big vote getter. Also he has a long past for the Republicans to nitpick as they are with Hillary.
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I'd welcome Joe Biden's entry into the race.
I won't be voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton. A $350 Billion plan for ADDITIONAL spending on education. I think NOT! No New Taxes. No Additional Debt. Hillary must make do with the current Department of Education's budget. The same goes for ANY Left-Wing, Progressive who insists on Giving Away The Store.
I won't be voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton. A $350 Billion plan for ADDITIONAL spending on education. I think NOT! No New Taxes. No Additional Debt. Hillary must make do with the current Department of Education's budget. The same goes for ANY Left-Wing, Progressive who insists on Giving Away The Store.
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You were not going to vote for her anyhow, education budget or not.
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So, instead of incentivizing the states to increase their support of higher education, you'd rather continue the dismal situation that emerged in the wake of 40% cuts following the financial crisis: high-interest loans on the backs of the students themselves. This is not a recipe for long-term financial health of the country, robust consumer spending, or lower income inequality. It's easy to be against spending and taxation. The question is what would you do to improve the situation?
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Since you are clearly a Republican who isn't going to vote for a Democrat regardless, you should at least recognise that seventy per cent of the national debt was accrued by Presidents Reagan, Bush and Bush, and that the rate of increase in it has dropped to the lowest level since the 1950s. The last two Democratic Presidents inherited record deficits from their Republican predecessors and, in Obama's, cut it by more than half, and, in Clinton's, eliminated it entirely.
Fact: Democratic Presidents over the last forty years have a far superior economic track record.
Oh, and taxes are below the level they were under Reagan.
So blather if you will, but your post betrays a deep partisanship rooted in ignorance.
Fact: Democratic Presidents over the last forty years have a far superior economic track record.
Oh, and taxes are below the level they were under Reagan.
So blather if you will, but your post betrays a deep partisanship rooted in ignorance.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Joe save the Democrats (and the country) from Hillary Clinton. If she's the nominee the Republicans will win the presidency and they'll have Congress - both houses.
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The Democratic Party would greatly benefit from eight years of opposition, watching as its polices are replaced, and its judges are replaced. Possibly it could reconcile between pragmatic elements and the lunatics who stole the microphone Bernie Sanders paid for.
Biden/Obama 2016
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Try reading the Constitution. A president can only serve 2 terms.
Wow. Not sure if that could happen but I wish it could...
I think Biden/Warren, and then Barack for the first Supreme Court vacancy the comes up.
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Joe Biden and Jon Huntsman.
Wait, that's bipartisan, with experienced and thoughtful people.
OK, we'll have to scratch that idea.
Wait, that's bipartisan, with experienced and thoughtful people.
OK, we'll have to scratch that idea.
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Old Joe is a lifelong professional politician - nothing more. Why should we reward him even more?
How about Biden/Kasich?
That's brilliant. This millennial and active duty military officer will take a VPOTUS and Howard Schultz ticket too.
I think all of us feel for the vice-President in this time of loss and grief. And, it is very human for any individual to try to fulfill a death bed wish of a son that loved you and you loved dearly. The tragedies that have been visited upon Joseph Biden the man, not the politician, are terrible; they remind us all how tenuous our existence is.
That being said, I hope vice-President Biden is able to look beyond the grief to make his decision. Yes, I think Hillary needs the competition, and I think vice-President Biden would run a fair race against Hillary, not wanting to nuke whoever the eventual candidate for the Dems would be.
I like Joe Biden... he's had his awkward moments, but I believe he is a good man and a seasoned leader. His list of foreign leaders that he knows very well is impressive, and his ability to get along with leaders of the opposition party would, I believe, make him a strong alternative to Hillary. I like Hillary, and I see no Republican that I could support, but the problem with Hillary is that from the time she potentially takes office, the GOP will do the tired investigation and obstruction bit that they have used ad nauseam with Obama. I doubt that they would feel the need to do that with Biden.
I like Joe, I really do, and I think he would be a good President.
That being said, I hope vice-President Biden is able to look beyond the grief to make his decision. Yes, I think Hillary needs the competition, and I think vice-President Biden would run a fair race against Hillary, not wanting to nuke whoever the eventual candidate for the Dems would be.
I like Joe Biden... he's had his awkward moments, but I believe he is a good man and a seasoned leader. His list of foreign leaders that he knows very well is impressive, and his ability to get along with leaders of the opposition party would, I believe, make him a strong alternative to Hillary. I like Hillary, and I see no Republican that I could support, but the problem with Hillary is that from the time she potentially takes office, the GOP will do the tired investigation and obstruction bit that they have used ad nauseam with Obama. I doubt that they would feel the need to do that with Biden.
I like Joe, I really do, and I think he would be a good President.
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Remember, one of the arguments for Obama was the Republicans wouldn't subject him to the Clinton treatment of investigations and obstruction, and what's happened to Obama? He's even had his birth certificate investigated despite being the cleanest president we've had since at least Carter.
There may be many reasons for a Biden candidacy, but the Republicans not investigating him and obstructing him isn't one of them.
There may be many reasons for a Biden candidacy, but the Republicans not investigating him and obstructing him isn't one of them.
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I recall no such thing, other than talk he could work with the Republicans, which he has failed to do.
Have you ever heard of Bernie Sanders and how his speech resonates with the "enough is enough" crowd? The system IS rigged,starting with St. Ronnie's "supply-side" economics and "trickle down" If you think Bernie's program is soooo radical, what would you call the New Deal , communism? You think people are stupid and will continue to vote against their own interests forever. I say once people hear his stump speech they're for him and a lot of people haven't heard it yet. Don't you think scuffling seniors just might respond to expanding Social Security and making the rich pay their fair share into the S.S. trust fund? Sounds good to me.
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No no no no no. He's not suitable to be president. And I don't like Hillary -- too much baggage and she could easily lose in the general election.
I want to see Al Gore run.
I want to see Al Gore run.
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Good luck with that.
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He won't do it. His time is passed and he's making millions promoting his environmental causes. I am afraid he would make that his primary issue at the expense of job creation, strengthening the economy, national security, immigration, health care. I think his time has passed just like it has for Christie, Perry, and a few that should never have run....Jindhal, Gilmore, Perry and I am a Republican
I would too cos he is by far the smartest thing that close to the Whitehouse. But he aint gonna. I would ideally like Gore Biden. But Biden and a young Al Gore would also be perfect. There is so much talent in America. Just find the younger version of Al Gore. A little nerdy. Supersmart. Super young.
Biden can't be nominated or win a general election but if he's really up for a "third times a charm" run, I say let him in.
By doing so maybe that will finally motivate HRC to take off the gloves and stop worrying about the Kamikaze liberal wing of the Democratic Party that may or may not be with her in November 2016. It will also allow her to demonstrate substantively that she can run rings around politicians whose time has passed and those that could not be elected even if there was divine intervention on their behalf.
By doing so maybe that will finally motivate HRC to take off the gloves and stop worrying about the Kamikaze liberal wing of the Democratic Party that may or may not be with her in November 2016. It will also allow her to demonstrate substantively that she can run rings around politicians whose time has passed and those that could not be elected even if there was divine intervention on their behalf.
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If he hurts Bernie, Democratic progressives will hate his guts forever.
Agreed. Let's get them into a real contest. Biden will be toast and Hilary will come out stronger.
Personally, I feel that Vice President Mr.Biden is best suited to run for Presidency on behalf of the Democrats. He has discharged his job as a Vice President to the full satisfaction of the country. Unlike Ms.Clinton who is caught in e-mail controversy, Mr.Biden has a clean record. Also, unlike other contenders, he comes with a wealth of experience as Vice President and he knows the functioning of the Office of the President well. The demise of his son, no doubt, is a major personal loss to him. If he could overcome it and contests for the post of President, I am sure he is best suited for the job.
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Forgive me, but don't you run for president becauce you feel a fire in your gut and wish to propose new policies for the nation? Is this something you have to think about? Maybe Mr. Biden feels he's too old for the job, or simply doesn't want it? Does he have to think about his purpose? My point is the problems America is facing in the years ahead will require a optimal President, and really no one fits that test. Mr. Biden will help himself a great deal by getting in front of the cameras on the evening news, or maybe not.
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The election is over a year away.
In the old days, you didn't even hear about the Presidential race until the summer convention.
Now you've got reality TV, Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and all sorts of fake-outs trying to use the Presidential nomination process to get attention.
In the old days, you didn't even hear about the Presidential race until the summer convention.
Now you've got reality TV, Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and all sorts of fake-outs trying to use the Presidential nomination process to get attention.
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You may find reasons to question Mr. Biden's candidacy, but lack of "Fire-in-the-Belly" is not one of them.
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The election is not more than a year away ... the Iowa Caucus is in February.
Today, General Oriedo finally admitted that in the future the Iraqi map may not look like its historical map. This was what Joe Biden had said years ago.
Mr. Biden, you need to run with the knowledge that many of us have no intention of ever voting for Hillary. Your country needs you, please rescue us.
Mr. Biden, you need to run with the knowledge that many of us have no intention of ever voting for Hillary. Your country needs you, please rescue us.
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Agree entirely. I replaced my Sanders for president bumper sticker with Biden 2016. He must enter the race though its being covered like a reality TV show, which I suppose is what our corporate masters favor.
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A question, WestSider: Given that you like Joe Biden, as I do, if Biden does not run, who are you going to vote for? Is there a Republican that would come near the politics that you admire Joe Biden for? You may not like Hillary, and I'm not thrilled with her, but which candidate in either party would come nearest in supporting the issues that you admire Joe Biden for taking?
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If you care anything about the future of this country, you cannot vote for any Republican: theocracy, anti-science and anti-women. Therefore you support HRC if she is the candidate.
I was there on Capitol Hill (as a member of the League of Women Voters of Arlington, VA), when Biden made his first speech on Capitol Hill. That was in 1972 or so). I was impressed with him then and will vote for him now, in my native state of Texas, some 40-plus years later. He is a good, good man. Joe, it is YOUR TIME. We need you and no more Clintons. My Uncle was the liberal Texan Luther Harris Evans, Librarian of Congress; Director-General of UNESCO; and friend of Eleanor Roosevelt. IT IS YOUR TIME --Jean Evans Pittman, Alpine TX.
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Right. 1972 or so was 43 years ago! Mr. Biden would be 82 upon completion of a second term. We do not need a "good, good, man" (although there will be plenty to suggest otherwise easily emerging should Mr. Biden decide, to his detriment historically, to run). We need a competent, competent, woman (or man) and we are well served with the current committed slate of Democratic (and even one or two Republican) candidates.
Just today came a story about another set of Clinton donors -- fossil fuel companies. I just can't believe she's the best the Democrats have to offer. So go Joe, go -- I'd prefer Bernie, but I'm for anyone who can break the cynical death spiral America seems headed for.
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Still, the worst Democrat running is better than the best Republican running.
And don't rule out a Bloomberg run. He cuts off Trump's entire campaign at the knees.
And don't rule out a Bloomberg run. He cuts off Trump's entire campaign at the knees.
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Bloomberg? Really? He's not supported by actual Republicans, certainly not after he gave tens of millions in a failed attempt to elect gun control Democrats.
"And don't rule out a Bloomberg run. He cuts off Trump's entire campaign at the knees."
ANOTHER rich narcissistic autocrat? That's NOT what the nation needs!
ANOTHER rich narcissistic autocrat? That's NOT what the nation needs!
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This Clinton tarnish is going to destroy her in the election (i.e. loose Ohio/Wisconsin/or heaven forbid Florida (all states Obama won) if an even slight moderate Kasich (or perhaps even Bush) is nominated. The only Democratic hope out of it is that the coalition that won such states -- oh yes Obama again -- brings out it's supporters and they view Biden as the real continuation of an effective Presidency.
Ease up on Biden's smaller foils. He's been in politics so long he's going to not be perfect. But, he was ahead of Obama on homosexual/transgender/bisexual rights and push comes to shove he always go for the middle class.
If one was pressed to ask what motivates Biden (no campaign money yet!) versus the Clintons (they of the Wall Street Ivy League Billionaire Davos crowd) it's easy to see who the better candidate is.
Ease up on Biden's smaller foils. He's been in politics so long he's going to not be perfect. But, he was ahead of Obama on homosexual/transgender/bisexual rights and push comes to shove he always go for the middle class.
If one was pressed to ask what motivates Biden (no campaign money yet!) versus the Clintons (they of the Wall Street Ivy League Billionaire Davos crowd) it's easy to see who the better candidate is.
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Not against Kasich or Bush. Hillary can get Independent women & likely some Republican women to vote for her in the states mentioned & Middle West. That is where the election will be won/lost.
Kasich/Rubio is the ticket that most worries me. That could shift 47 electoral votes into the Republicans' column and leave them just fifteen EVs short of victory. Luckily the Republican primary electorate cares more about ideological purity than it does about winning, so I doubt Kasich stands much of a chance at the nomination.
Not for the middle-class on finance issues.
He doesn't have even the most remote chance of winning, but even running could do a great deal of damage to the Democratic party. Not sure that it matters given the extent of the damage done by the Democratic leadership putting forth Hillary as a candidate, which is quite considerable. But anyone associated with the Obama administration, and especially anyone who supported the Iraq genocide, discredits the party and insults the American people. That's why Hillary's attempt has failed so miserably. Have no idea who's going to win, but it certainly won't be any DC insider, you can count on that. Last thing we need is another corrupt, right-wing corporate stooge and warmonger. Their day is over.
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Glad you won't be voting for a Republican.
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Agree with the Vice President or not, he is clearly a man of deep conviction and integrity. Could he become the nominee? Of course! At this stage, there are no sure things, in spite of what many Clinton supporters would like to believe. Though I am a conservative independent, I would consider voting for a person who says what he means, even if I didn't always agree with him or her. Conversely, I have no interest in voting for someone who speaks in vague terms in order to obscure her obvious sense of presidential entitlement. So, I say, go, Joe, go!
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If Hillary's most ardent admirers would look past the fact that the Vice President is not a member of the feminine persuasion they'd have to conclude that he is in every respect a far more qualified candidate than she. The convictions are much the same (although there's less reason to doubt the level of authenticity on his part) and there's none of the personal baggage that she totes like Santa Claus when he's making the rounds. He may put his foot in his mouth on occasion (though not with the same regularity as does his most popular GOP opponent) but he knows better than to use a personal e-mail account for government business.
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Putting foot in mouth is what used to be called candid and truthful. Seems that is a quality favored by the electorate if you can believe the polls. If only he were president these past 8 years we would be much better off. The Bush Obama era has been a disaster economically and with respect to foreign policy. Though Bush got us in to this mess, Obama has been inert in response, and Wall Street banksters continue their rule.
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He's not a member of the female persuasion? Boy nothing get's past you does it. I do agree he is a better candidate and his gaffe's are nothing. But he is 73 and liberals like you mocked Reagan's age so why do your people get a pass? Don't give me the mental state, that occurred at the end of his second term. Sanders will be 75 and Hillary 69. That's your best? They will need a Red Bull to stay awake at the debates (sorry, but since you love sarcasm.........)
You are right about Hillary. My questions are
1) She lied about the server....and she kept it in a barn?
2) Does the fact that they wiped the server clean before they turned it over to the FBI a red flag?
3) Who were the people who were going through the emails and did they have the proper security clearance to be examining these emails?'
4) She lied at her March 11 press conference when she said she had not received any confidential emails. But one email was from a spy satellite. She can't tell the difference?
5) She lied about destroying confidential emails and she lied about using the email account to go back and forth with Bill which was not true.
For credibility sake I hope Biden get's in. He's been around Washington over 40 years, served on the Judiciary committee during some contentious appointments and I do not believe he would be as hyper partisan. And even though I am a conservative Republican he'd get Boehner and McConnell to stop acting like a couple of 2 year olds who got their toys taken away.
You are right about Hillary. My questions are
1) She lied about the server....and she kept it in a barn?
2) Does the fact that they wiped the server clean before they turned it over to the FBI a red flag?
3) Who were the people who were going through the emails and did they have the proper security clearance to be examining these emails?'
4) She lied at her March 11 press conference when she said she had not received any confidential emails. But one email was from a spy satellite. She can't tell the difference?
5) She lied about destroying confidential emails and she lied about using the email account to go back and forth with Bill which was not true.
For credibility sake I hope Biden get's in. He's been around Washington over 40 years, served on the Judiciary committee during some contentious appointments and I do not believe he would be as hyper partisan. And even though I am a conservative Republican he'd get Boehner and McConnell to stop acting like a couple of 2 year olds who got their toys taken away.
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If we had a President who had to confront a major personal loss and whom had a wound " that would not heal ." Do we want that person as our President, shuffling about, unable to put one's problems below the need of the nation. No! Beau-Joe the presidency is not for you.
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Know Nothing--- That was a very unfair statement, as if Joe Biden is shuffling about in a state of depression. I'd make the point, a very well-known point, that the vice-President has suffered before, when his first wife and children were involved in that terrible wreck and he had to suffer through the deaths of wife and kids and watch the surviving kids agonize through injuries and the loss of their mother. Biden has had his own brush with death with a brain tumor in the 1980s. Yet Biden always came back, always made it through the pain and suffering. This man has been steeled by tragedy, and he perseveres.
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Lincoln spent much of his Presidency in the throes of depression and grief, and yet he managed to carry on quite effectively.
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That a man who discounted Anita HIlls testimony and was instrumental to the war on drugs could be supported blindly by democrats as a result of personal tragedy and not being Ms. Clinton is very troubling. I urge constituents to look at his record, not his personal history, nor his handsome swagger. While personality and character no doubt matter, Biden is more to the right than Clinton, just fyi.
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Surprised you didn't bring up the plagiarism business. You obviously haven't listened to him in a very long time.
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It is not so much what he did then, as what he would do next. People learn.
As to militarism, no one gets to the White House without it!...America Must be Strong, don't you know.
As to militarism, no one gets to the White House without it!...America Must be Strong, don't you know.
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did he! wow that was a mistake. But in all other respects he has been remarkably correct.
Biden's chances of actually winning the nomination are even slimmer than Sanders'. Assuming this is the case, his candidacy can only help Clinton, since Biden's supporters are more likely to support Hillary than Bernie. Yes, alot can happen in the next few months. But Biden's candidacy is likely to be a win for Clinton and a loss for Sanders.
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Biden is a heavyweight. He could deck Trump in the first round.
To dismiss him so casually is, to put it gently, unwise.
To dismiss him so casually is, to put it gently, unwise.
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What percent of the vote did he win when he ran in '08?
Dr. Biden, The VP's wife, has a very assured stance on most things in her husband's career. And why wouldn't she? Having said that, I'd be watching the doctor if you want to sleuth an answer even Joe Biden doesn't know. So the whole thing is a freak show…people talking about serious stuff based on nothing because it is A L L speculation until Joe Biden says he's in or not. Frankly, were I him, I'd go out as a celebrated VP, member of Congress with a personal tragedy that is operatic. I say, give a long deserved rest.
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Agree a personal legacy is much more important than how well our country is governed. This is the age of narcissism after all. Personal glory is key to immortality.
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Yes, but he is a race horse who has heard the trumpet's call.
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Absolutely. Why risk his ascendency to the parthenon of exalted VPs? That failed bid for the Presidency absolutely ruined Walter Mondale's legacy.
Go Joe. Please. For the sake of America. You could outalk Trump. And do it with integrity, experience and wisdom.
Now what you need is a very young, centrist, super smart nerdy almost, economically savvy, green, VP.
Now what you need is a very young, centrist, super smart nerdy almost, economically savvy, green, VP.
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Run, Biden, run! I am not the idealist I used to be so don't take this as more than it is but...Clinton vs. Biden?? Why is there even a question as to who is the better candidate? He is an experienced statesman, an independent thinker who votes on issues not party lines, he's funny, he's got a soul, he's smart, he cares (or seems to). Clinton is all ego and Wall Street and is, rather transparently, all about political calculations and carefully crafted one-liners--with a terrible delivery. I sincerely hope he throws his hat into the race. Warren would be my first choice but...that's not happening. So, if Biden says he runs, I'm contributing to his campaign...along with Sanders', because the latter will take the debate where it needs to (finally) go and then Biden will get the job done.
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He would be by far the oldest president to begin his first term. Reagan isn't in the same ballpark.
Republicans have a shot at fulfilling their dream since 1935: killing Social Security. I hope and expect their evil, selfish scheming will further weaken, if not kill, what remains of the Republican Party.
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Look up the definition of hyperbole. You'll see your name. Given the FACT that entitlements take up 71% of the federal budget what is your solution to the aging population and the FACT that 3 million baby booomers retire every year. What is your solution? Tax the rich? That is liberals solution to everything. That is not a plausible solution. Tell me exactly what you will do when demand outstrips revenue. Because that day is coming. Same with Medicare. What is your solution to do deal with the enormous demands that are being placed on the system. I don't see one solution, just a bunch of finger pointing. Why didn't Obama deal with this when he had both chambers and after Harry Reid invoked the nuclear option? There was nothing the Republicans could do because a simple majority would pass a bill.
You clearly do not do your research and I suggest you try doing it in the future. Before your taxes go up.
You clearly do not do your research and I suggest you try doing it in the future. Before your taxes go up.
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Despite megatons of Democratic propaganda, the sexist, racist, ethnically biased, age biased, etc. Social "Security" financial lunacy is a massive disaster.
Of course, REAL causation and evidence don't matter, but just for starters, its own trustees and actuaries recently announced that it added another $900 BILLION in net long-term unfunded liabilities in 2014 to "attain" yet another record of $25.8 TRILLION!!! Congratulations!
Worse yet, a recent Harvard-Dartmouth study (and also other economists) say the calculations are con jobs, greatly exaggerating the number of years to the exhaustion of the reserves.
Furthermore, the Sanders, Warren, etc. "solutions" are ridiculous. People such as Prof. Laurence Kotlikoff have good stating points to fix Government's Unaccountable Accounting and various gigantic Government debacles, but of course, few care about any REAL solutions.
Of course, REAL causation and evidence don't matter, but just for starters, its own trustees and actuaries recently announced that it added another $900 BILLION in net long-term unfunded liabilities in 2014 to "attain" yet another record of $25.8 TRILLION!!! Congratulations!
Worse yet, a recent Harvard-Dartmouth study (and also other economists) say the calculations are con jobs, greatly exaggerating the number of years to the exhaustion of the reserves.
Furthermore, the Sanders, Warren, etc. "solutions" are ridiculous. People such as Prof. Laurence Kotlikoff have good stating points to fix Government's Unaccountable Accounting and various gigantic Government debacles, but of course, few care about any REAL solutions.
And the Republicans, in the whole herd running, have only come up with one person who's not from the fringe right.