We are in a new era. We have no idea what the ceiling is for a "73 year old avowed Socialist'. We have never tried anyone like him since Eugene Debs. If we ever wanted something different, now is the time.
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While Hillary was a Senator, three of her top five contributors were Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and J.P. Morgan Chase.
While running for President, 5 of the top 10 contributors to her campaign were J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers.
There is something fascinating about people willing to be openly lied to by a candidate that needs to be re-re-re-packaged by marketers.
We all know she has no intention of following through on anything she says. She is the prototypical politician.
People may just be ready for a maverick like Sanders or even Trump because at least there is the sense that they say what they really think.
While running for President, 5 of the top 10 contributors to her campaign were J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Lehman Brothers.
There is something fascinating about people willing to be openly lied to by a candidate that needs to be re-re-re-packaged by marketers.
We all know she has no intention of following through on anything she says. She is the prototypical politician.
People may just be ready for a maverick like Sanders or even Trump because at least there is the sense that they say what they really think.
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Ms. Clinton cannot win because no one is interested in purchasing a Dodge. Demand for both exist in a time past. The world has moved on. No one is interested her, or her boring vision of society. It would be greatly appreciated if Ms. Clinton could move on, perhaps purchase a condo in a retirement community, disappear from public, e.g., 'The Villages' in Florida comes to mind..
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Thank you for such an article. Please save us.
I find it Interesting that to date we have heard how she wishes to equalize our economy while at the same time she supports Illegal Immigrants! Now how can our economy ever recover when Illegal Immigrants are paid under cash rather than given a contract whereby they pay taxes as does their employer; and they also take Americans Jobs Away!
And there is another Issue one that concerns me and that is that to date she hasn't stated a word on if she is Willing to fight for Clear and adequate Labeling on all Of Our Foods, including GMO foods. I don't know about you, but when every other advanced nation in this World Has either Banned GMO food or at minimal Labels them giving their citizens a choice; then Why on this Earth does Hillary stray far away from this Issue and Want of Americans!
Do I believe that Bill supports Monsanto's DARK ACT---yes do I believe Hillary Supports Monsanto's Efforts to keep us in the Dark---YES!
Granted Bernie may not be great to date but at least the guy stands with us not above us as Hillary Puts herself and he has fought hard and long and succeeded to gain labels on all foods in Vermont (which Monsanto is challenging right now). Thus ask yourself---which one would be better for We the People ---another Clinton who puts herself above Us or a person who tries to walk with us?????
And there is another Issue one that concerns me and that is that to date she hasn't stated a word on if she is Willing to fight for Clear and adequate Labeling on all Of Our Foods, including GMO foods. I don't know about you, but when every other advanced nation in this World Has either Banned GMO food or at minimal Labels them giving their citizens a choice; then Why on this Earth does Hillary stray far away from this Issue and Want of Americans!
Do I believe that Bill supports Monsanto's DARK ACT---yes do I believe Hillary Supports Monsanto's Efforts to keep us in the Dark---YES!
Granted Bernie may not be great to date but at least the guy stands with us not above us as Hillary Puts herself and he has fought hard and long and succeeded to gain labels on all foods in Vermont (which Monsanto is challenging right now). Thus ask yourself---which one would be better for We the People ---another Clinton who puts herself above Us or a person who tries to walk with us?????
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The problem w/re-branding is we don't know who Hillary really is. Seems to me she readjusts her position to fit the moment. Plus, what has she accomplished in her political career that reflects on her ability to be President?
After a lifetime of ignoring middle America, now she wants to be their representative ... give me a break.
After a lifetime of ignoring middle America, now she wants to be their representative ... give me a break.
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I am desperately seeking a female President. And shall reluctantly vote for Hillary, since no other qualified female candidate presents herself. But this article nails what I dislike most about her: she's way way way too "managed." If she cannot stand on her own recognizance, with passion and spontaneity, out of the shadow of Bill, she isn't the female I want to see in the White House.
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She is a serial liar (this business with her emails is beyond the pale) a terrible candidate as far as dealing with the electorate and will say anything to anybody to get their vote without meaning any of it. She is also the only hope of a Democrat in the White House in 2016. I despise most liberal principals but I also have a well compensated Federal civil servant for a spouse so I will hold my nose and vote for her after the Republican led Government shutdown. All I can say is she had better stop stepping on rakes if she is to have any chance in 2016.
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This article taught me nothing about the person HC is and what she would do in the oval office. She is not likable or affable. She is a political veteran who has learned nothing over her failed career. Bill is the one everyone loved even when he could not keep it zipped. She was a inexcusable no show ben ghazi and has lied about ever since. Our country which is in decline already, would not be well represented by her tactics or vapid avoidance of decisions. The same political cronies who ruining our country would not doubt get another four year assignment.
Sorry, this article does nothing to dissuade me from bemoaning the fact that this is the best democrats can offer--or maybe they just need to wait till the republicans self destruct.
Sorry, this article does nothing to dissuade me from bemoaning the fact that this is the best democrats can offer--or maybe they just need to wait till the republicans self destruct.
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The way Hillary's handlers are desperately casting around trying to find a way to market a bad product reminds me of a Dr. Seuss poem:
"Would you like her on a boat? Would you like her with a goat? Would you like her in a house? Would you like her with a mouse?"
To which progressives reply:
"We do not like her in a house.
"We do not like her with a mouse.
"We do not like her here or there.
"We do not like her anywhere!
"We do not like those DINOs, Sam.
"We do not like them, Sam-I-Am!"
BERNIE IN '16
"Would you like her on a boat? Would you like her with a goat? Would you like her in a house? Would you like her with a mouse?"
To which progressives reply:
"We do not like her in a house.
"We do not like her with a mouse.
"We do not like her here or there.
"We do not like her anywhere!
"We do not like those DINOs, Sam.
"We do not like them, Sam-I-Am!"
BERNIE IN '16
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Does anyone share my sense that this whole process is utterly stupid and largely a waste of time? What da heck is wondering around the country ordering ice cream cones with media boom mics sticking overhead supposed to accomplish? It has turned into a trial by group selfies. Or, is the public prancing around actually a way to hide the real campaign, the one that takes place at headquarters, behind closed doors at fund raisers and in thousands of operations to recruit and organize supporters?
I have only stood in a small room once in my life with Mrs. Clinton, when someone else was scheduled for a very short interview when she was a U.S. senator. My feeling was that the room turned to ice when she walked in, that she hates the media with every fiber. Perhaps she has matured. Her senatorial days were not that far removed from the impeachment of her husband, a process that turned DC into a stalking media enterprise in far excess of the ordinary, day to day excess.
She is not a natural to any part of the political process, except perhaps reading and digesting position and policy papers. She doesn't, so far as I can tell, have a deep personal reason, a crusade or larger purpose, in wanting to be president. She wants it because it is there and because she has a good chance of getting it, of writing the final chapter of the Bill and Hillary story, one that would be told for the next 100 yrs. and longer. Maybe if she gets it, some day much later she can tell us why she wanted it.
I have only stood in a small room once in my life with Mrs. Clinton, when someone else was scheduled for a very short interview when she was a U.S. senator. My feeling was that the room turned to ice when she walked in, that she hates the media with every fiber. Perhaps she has matured. Her senatorial days were not that far removed from the impeachment of her husband, a process that turned DC into a stalking media enterprise in far excess of the ordinary, day to day excess.
She is not a natural to any part of the political process, except perhaps reading and digesting position and policy papers. She doesn't, so far as I can tell, have a deep personal reason, a crusade or larger purpose, in wanting to be president. She wants it because it is there and because she has a good chance of getting it, of writing the final chapter of the Bill and Hillary story, one that would be told for the next 100 yrs. and longer. Maybe if she gets it, some day much later she can tell us why she wanted it.
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Another article on HRC that is a voyeuristic delight while short on substance.
contrast this with candidate Jim Webbs detailed analysis of issues and policy prescriptions whether you agree with him or not. Perhaps she can give a detailed analysis on why she voted in favor of the Iraq war(mea culpa I erroneously supported it); and what went wrong and what she learned. Then perhaps I can start to take her seriously.
contrast this with candidate Jim Webbs detailed analysis of issues and policy prescriptions whether you agree with him or not. Perhaps she can give a detailed analysis on why she voted in favor of the Iraq war(mea culpa I erroneously supported it); and what went wrong and what she learned. Then perhaps I can start to take her seriously.
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gm-- She has already said (some time ago, long before she announced) that her vote was a mistake, and she regrets it. It bears repeating that Congress was LIED TO by the Bush administration, and told that they would have another chance to vote on action, if inspectors found WMDs. Then, they turned around, didn't give the inspectors time to do their job, and CLAIMED that there WERE WMDs, and went to war. That's the truth!
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One could almost do a soap opera on her life. Always something new and unfoldy.
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and where does she stand on Glass-Steagall . . . why she is in favor of keeping it in place (as is). nothing says I'm a champion of the people quite like providing aid and comfort to the banking industry . . .
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The writer should have corrected the hotel manager for his solecism. He was not 'Lord John Maynard Keynes' (as that would make him a son of a duke, which he was not), but simply Lord Keynes.
Fool me once, shame on me ............
Democrat or Republican: Jim Webb appears to have the knowledge, character, intellect and experience .... did I mention integrity ? ... as a presidential candidate.
NYT ... can you provide more about him instead of `The Donald?"
Democrat or Republican: Jim Webb appears to have the knowledge, character, intellect and experience .... did I mention integrity ? ... as a presidential candidate.
NYT ... can you provide more about him instead of `The Donald?"
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I believe Hilary Clinton was close to a moose the same as I believe she was under fire in Bosnia and she was"dead broke' after leaving the white house.
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So so article - not much new here. The Magazine's hard copy cover graphics are terrific, however. Would The Times please offer that cover graphic digitally so I can post on FB of our next president?! Thanks.
Obviously, it is still so early in the campaign that what is going on now can be forgotten by November 2016. Still, a Siberian long distance connection between Hillary Clinton with most potential voters and the media can't be viewed as a raging success regardless of campaign strategy.
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Pretty sure the NYT is already proof-reading Hillary's coronation coverage.
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This may be the worst campaign piece I've ever read. Leibovich is bored - Hillary has been around for so long that all her stories are old, and she is guarded in responding to reporters. Also, he wants to punish her, or her managers, for not going on the record with him. So he buries the human-interest story about her mother's childhood ordeal, fearing that it is just another campaign ploy (which it certainly is, however truthful) and makes HIMSELF the protagonist of the piece, thereby breaking the first rule of journalism.
G.W.Bush should have taught him, and all of us, that a campaign persona is not a good guide to how the president will function. Hillary's weaknesses as a campaigner derive from the roles she has had to play as presidential wife, senator, and Secretary of State. They have little to tell us about how she will function as president. Likely she will favor the kind of free trade that helps international capitalism and hurts the American worker (as does Obama), and likely she will be prone to foreign military interventions, as was her husband. Once elected she will be running for re-election, as was Obama, which limited his freedom to support same-sex marriage, make peace with Iran, and speak out about racism until his last two years. But in many respects she is a strong liberal voice. Her vote to invade Iraq made not a bit of difference, and ANY Democrat will be crucial to keep our rogue Supreme Court from handing the country over to the plutocrats.
G.W.Bush should have taught him, and all of us, that a campaign persona is not a good guide to how the president will function. Hillary's weaknesses as a campaigner derive from the roles she has had to play as presidential wife, senator, and Secretary of State. They have little to tell us about how she will function as president. Likely she will favor the kind of free trade that helps international capitalism and hurts the American worker (as does Obama), and likely she will be prone to foreign military interventions, as was her husband. Once elected she will be running for re-election, as was Obama, which limited his freedom to support same-sex marriage, make peace with Iran, and speak out about racism until his last two years. But in many respects she is a strong liberal voice. Her vote to invade Iraq made not a bit of difference, and ANY Democrat will be crucial to keep our rogue Supreme Court from handing the country over to the plutocrats.
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Hillary Clinton is educated, informed, and has the most international work experience and on the job experience. I remember the disastrous 2000 election, with it's standard of "Who would you want to have a beer with?" I don't drink and don't want to have a beer with any of these people. I want them to DO THEIR JOBS. Hillary has the most experience dealing with all sides of the aisles. As the past eight years has taught us, all the charisma and Change in the world can't force the Tea Party and the entrenched Republicans to do anything they don't want to do.
I've supported Hillary since she ran for NY Senate. I had the good fortune to meet her and for those of you who says she's not exciting, clearly you've never been in her orbit. She is intelligent and magnetic. On a personal level, any woman worth her salt who doesn't vote for Hillary should be ashamed. This is an opportunity for women to break the greatest glass ceiling.
I've supported Hillary since she ran for NY Senate. I had the good fortune to meet her and for those of you who says she's not exciting, clearly you've never been in her orbit. She is intelligent and magnetic. On a personal level, any woman worth her salt who doesn't vote for Hillary should be ashamed. This is an opportunity for women to break the greatest glass ceiling.
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Gabrielle Samuels -- Hear, hear! Great post, and I agree with you fully! It is a disgrace the way the media has treated Hillary, and they are certainly the cause of her reticence to be interviewed. Especially the women who have interviewed her! They can't wait to get to the cutting stuff to show their "tough" chops. It's truly been an embarrassment to them. As Madelaine Albright said, "There is a special place in Hell for women who don't support other women." Amen!
It's all about money and being well connected and powerful. It apparently doesn't matter if Hillary Clinton doesn't want to answer reporters' questions so that they can keep the public informed. She is too "important" and cynical to care.
I want a viable choice and Bernie Sanders is one viable choice (I've yet to hear much yet from Webb and O'Malley) despite the fact that the press is making Hillary sound inevitable. She isn't inevitable to me.
I want a viable choice and Bernie Sanders is one viable choice (I've yet to hear much yet from Webb and O'Malley) despite the fact that the press is making Hillary sound inevitable. She isn't inevitable to me.
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It's all about money and being well connected.and powerful. It apparently doesn't matter if Hillary Clinton doesn't want to answer reporters questions so that they can keep the public informed. She is too "important" to care.
I want a viable choice and Bernie Sanders is one viable choice (I've yet to hear much from Webb and O'Malley) despite the fact that the press is making Hillary sound inevitable.
I want a viable choice and Bernie Sanders is one viable choice (I've yet to hear much from Webb and O'Malley) despite the fact that the press is making Hillary sound inevitable.
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Hillary doesn't "evolve "so much as change her tune, as do many politicians. I believe in her shift decades ago from suburban Goldwater girl to Democrat (I did that too, although leftist politics ran in my family), feminist. child advocate and health care promoter. The last 20 years, however, have seen a series of "evolutions" that mirror the shift in Party politics and public opinion: Gay marriage,Iraq war, economic inequality and now, a Wall Street sheriff-to-be. This ain't evolution, it's following the opinion polls and the Party base. Lot's of people have lived in the glass bubble for decades (e.g.,Ted Kennedy, hubby Bill). Her criticisms of it have validity, but she and Bill brought much of it on themselves. If she's tired of it, time to quit. OR, find your "center" and lets see it every day, a la Bernie.
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Yesterday's fish is better than no fish at all. Any Democrat who doesn't support Hillary is basically saying they don't want the Democrats to recapture the White House. Hillary has what it take to win: she has the establishment support and she has the big corporate donors. No other Democrat even comes close. So let's all rally around Hillary rather than engage in a divisive primary campaign that will only given the GOP ammunition for the general election. The issues raised by the other Democratic candidates simply represent an attempt to make Hillary look deficient without offering anything substantively different (at least which they are capable of delivering). The New York Times, the most liberal of major newspapers in the country, clearly appreciates the importance of a decisive Clinton victory. Why, by contrast, are its readers so completely clueless?
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you're right, she's the one hope for dems, good luck with that. I'd say if Hilary was the best candidate a party could produce then maybe they should get out of the party biz.
Here we go again. When in doubt, package. And repackage. And repackage. And repackage. Ad nauseum.
So who will Hillary Clinton be this time? A fair Senator from New York who didn't introduce much of anything during her time in Congress? A rather mediocre (I'm being kind here) Secretary of State who, in all fairness, was simply carrying out the orders of a rather mediocre (And now I'm being VERY kind) President? Bill's happy campaigner? Or the First Lady who, along with fellow self-styled 'Social Engineer' Ira Magaziner, almost turned this entire nation into the most restrictive of HMOs?
So let's get ready for the roll-out of The New Hillary. Reminds me of The New Nixon, back in 1968 (another year full of happy campers, much like this one). Rather like saying that you've got A New Chameleon whenever it changes colour. Never mind the fact that changing colour is simply what chameleons do. That, and catching bugs.
Honestly, doesn't this country deserve better than that? Most interestingly, we have TWO candidates, one in each party, who have consistently respected freedom and respect for the Constitution as the law of the land - Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul. And even more interestingly, there are many who support one who'd have no problems with the other winning the White House, in spite of their many differences on matters of the economy. It's BECAUSE they agree on that most basic issue - our freedom. And that's a lot more than I can say for the rest of this crew.
So who will Hillary Clinton be this time? A fair Senator from New York who didn't introduce much of anything during her time in Congress? A rather mediocre (I'm being kind here) Secretary of State who, in all fairness, was simply carrying out the orders of a rather mediocre (And now I'm being VERY kind) President? Bill's happy campaigner? Or the First Lady who, along with fellow self-styled 'Social Engineer' Ira Magaziner, almost turned this entire nation into the most restrictive of HMOs?
So let's get ready for the roll-out of The New Hillary. Reminds me of The New Nixon, back in 1968 (another year full of happy campers, much like this one). Rather like saying that you've got A New Chameleon whenever it changes colour. Never mind the fact that changing colour is simply what chameleons do. That, and catching bugs.
Honestly, doesn't this country deserve better than that? Most interestingly, we have TWO candidates, one in each party, who have consistently respected freedom and respect for the Constitution as the law of the land - Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul. And even more interestingly, there are many who support one who'd have no problems with the other winning the White House, in spite of their many differences on matters of the economy. It's BECAUSE they agree on that most basic issue - our freedom. And that's a lot more than I can say for the rest of this crew.
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I'm voting for Bernie Sanders in the primary.
If Hillary is the nominee, I'll vote for her. (Supreme Court, Supreme Court....)
I've met her and she's quite nice although stiff and she has no natural gift for campaigning that I can see. And her campaign so far is bad - vague, controlled and uninspired.
And I'm disheartened by all the money she's taken from Wall Street and corporations and how comfortable she and Bill are with monied interests. He presided over the deregulation of banks and all but gutted welfare. He permitted bankruptcy 'reform' that's devastated working people. In terms of regular folks, Bill Clinton was a disaster. And Bill's much more liberal than Hillary. The Clintons governed from a kind of appeasement center that was little help for the middle class and none for the poor.
When I hear her now championing working people and saying she'll fight for us, I don't really believe her. I expect her to be much the same kind of president Bill was. Eh.
What I'd like is someone just like Obama. And the party doesn't appear to have anyone like him in the wings.
The real truth is the role of money in campaign finance prevents us from coming up with the kind of candidate we need - someone more like Bernie than Hillary but who can get elected. Anyone without huge campaign funding is going to be crushed by Jeb's money. And this depresses and discourages me. How am I supposed to care about this race when money is controlling everything ?
How?
If Hillary is the nominee, I'll vote for her. (Supreme Court, Supreme Court....)
I've met her and she's quite nice although stiff and she has no natural gift for campaigning that I can see. And her campaign so far is bad - vague, controlled and uninspired.
And I'm disheartened by all the money she's taken from Wall Street and corporations and how comfortable she and Bill are with monied interests. He presided over the deregulation of banks and all but gutted welfare. He permitted bankruptcy 'reform' that's devastated working people. In terms of regular folks, Bill Clinton was a disaster. And Bill's much more liberal than Hillary. The Clintons governed from a kind of appeasement center that was little help for the middle class and none for the poor.
When I hear her now championing working people and saying she'll fight for us, I don't really believe her. I expect her to be much the same kind of president Bill was. Eh.
What I'd like is someone just like Obama. And the party doesn't appear to have anyone like him in the wings.
The real truth is the role of money in campaign finance prevents us from coming up with the kind of candidate we need - someone more like Bernie than Hillary but who can get elected. Anyone without huge campaign funding is going to be crushed by Jeb's money. And this depresses and discourages me. How am I supposed to care about this race when money is controlling everything ?
How?
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She's like a steak at a restaurant served too well-done. You send it back and they cook it some more..
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You don't think wrinkles are cute?
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"Sanders ... eventual support probably has the ceiling you would expect from a 73-year-old avowed socialist." Mark Leibovich
According to the the breakdown of who would vote for a socialist, he easily has enough support to be elected. See this article and check the second table that shows willingness by political part. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/47-percent-americans-would-vote-so...
Try as you and your cynical editors might, the numbers show your supposition to be significantly wrong.
According to the the breakdown of who would vote for a socialist, he easily has enough support to be elected. See this article and check the second table that shows willingness by political part. http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/47-percent-americans-would-vote-so...
Try as you and your cynical editors might, the numbers show your supposition to be significantly wrong.
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The artical was brilliant in it's portrayal of the uneventful history of Hillary in politics, in excruciatingly dull detail.
The jury seems to be in. Hillary Clinton is "Meh" .......
The jury seems to be in. Hillary Clinton is "Meh" .......
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From the Associated Press this morning:
WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton's standing is falling among Democrats, and voters view her as less decisive and inspiring than when she launched her presidential campaign just three months ago, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.
The survey offers a series of warning signs for the leading Democratic candidate. Most troubling, perhaps, for her prospects are questions about her compassion for average Americans, a quality that fueled President Barack Obama's two White House victories.
Just 39 percent of all Americans have a favorable view of Clinton, compared to nearly half who say they have a negative opinion of her. That's an eight-point increase in her unfavorable rating from an AP-GfK poll conducted at the end of April. ...
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That comes on the heels of a poll showing that only 4 in 10 Americans consider her trustworthy. Translation: People are wising up and desperate for an alternative. Come on, Democrats, is this really the best you can do?
WASHINGTON — Hillary Rodham Clinton's standing is falling among Democrats, and voters view her as less decisive and inspiring than when she launched her presidential campaign just three months ago, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.
The survey offers a series of warning signs for the leading Democratic candidate. Most troubling, perhaps, for her prospects are questions about her compassion for average Americans, a quality that fueled President Barack Obama's two White House victories.
Just 39 percent of all Americans have a favorable view of Clinton, compared to nearly half who say they have a negative opinion of her. That's an eight-point increase in her unfavorable rating from an AP-GfK poll conducted at the end of April. ...
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That comes on the heels of a poll showing that only 4 in 10 Americans consider her trustworthy. Translation: People are wising up and desperate for an alternative. Come on, Democrats, is this really the best you can do?
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The NY Times has an editorial today (7-16-15) about how the bankruptcy "reforms" of 2005 have hurt everyday Americans.
What they neglected to mention is that Hillary Clinton was a leading proponent of the bill which made the Bankruptcy Code more unfair to the people she claims to care so much about.
It's not a coincidence that this bill helped the banks on Wall Street, which is in the state she was elected to serve.
What they neglected to mention is that Hillary Clinton was a leading proponent of the bill which made the Bankruptcy Code more unfair to the people she claims to care so much about.
It's not a coincidence that this bill helped the banks on Wall Street, which is in the state she was elected to serve.
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After reading this puff piece, why am I left feeling so BORED? Hillary and her campaign messages are so lifeless, rehearsed, focused-grouped, massaged, rewritten, vetted, and predictably banal. How can anyone feel excited or inspired by a so-called Democratic candidate whose largest donors are Wall Street Banks, the same ones who paid her $200,000 per speech and made murky donations to the Clinton Foundation. I do not have the desire or stamina to withstand four, much less eight, years more of Clintonia drama, scandals and self-involved pretentions. Pretty depressing, to say the least.
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Bored? I suppose it is one's right to feel bored, and yet the people I meet who are bored are usually boring. Fortunately these are few. Pretentious? If there is a whiff of pretension in the air, we tend to fall apart like a house of cards, while it is alright to be crass, rude, and pompous.
A vision of four years of 'Clintonia drama'? Why, we can not get enough of such matters, which require no thinking in some of the articles that are offered for free, while we take a break from whatever we are doing, some of us struggling to make our daily bread.
Depressed? We are living in depressed times and I am looking about the people in my neighborhood and beyond, with no intention of sinking into gloom and despondency. Maybe we should go to Paris, and learn the meaning of 'banal' and 'bureaucracy'.
Bright, hard-working, an American success story, a friend used to say 'boring', not realizing that people who met her used to take flight on sight, and she could not understand why this was happening.
Mrs. Clinton is a phoenix among the peacocks and the pigeons among us.
How do I know this, as an American born in New York decades ago before pampers were invented? Politicians come and go, but she continues to grow stronger in stature to my mind every day. It will be an honor and a privilege if she is elected as the next President, and difficult as it will be, I plan to roll up my sleeves and join the few who support her with enthusiasm and quiet fever in my blood.
A vision of four years of 'Clintonia drama'? Why, we can not get enough of such matters, which require no thinking in some of the articles that are offered for free, while we take a break from whatever we are doing, some of us struggling to make our daily bread.
Depressed? We are living in depressed times and I am looking about the people in my neighborhood and beyond, with no intention of sinking into gloom and despondency. Maybe we should go to Paris, and learn the meaning of 'banal' and 'bureaucracy'.
Bright, hard-working, an American success story, a friend used to say 'boring', not realizing that people who met her used to take flight on sight, and she could not understand why this was happening.
Mrs. Clinton is a phoenix among the peacocks and the pigeons among us.
How do I know this, as an American born in New York decades ago before pampers were invented? Politicians come and go, but she continues to grow stronger in stature to my mind every day. It will be an honor and a privilege if she is elected as the next President, and difficult as it will be, I plan to roll up my sleeves and join the few who support her with enthusiasm and quiet fever in my blood.
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So, the party of "diversity" is offering for Prez: OLD, WHITE PEOPLE. Hmm
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xfiler93
On opening a paperback earlier this morning, the first quote I read was 'Experience is beyond your reach and unfortunately can only be acquired through trials and tribulations, follies and mishaps of youth'.
Regardless of one's age and color, this voter wants a tried and true candidate for President in the White House. Although the odds are against Hillary Clinton, her Administration would have lots of young staff members on her team, and they are out there now, those of a younger generation spreading the word.
'Diversity' is to be found in the Republican Party and you have plenty of young politicians of all color to place your hopes on.
On opening a paperback earlier this morning, the first quote I read was 'Experience is beyond your reach and unfortunately can only be acquired through trials and tribulations, follies and mishaps of youth'.
Regardless of one's age and color, this voter wants a tried and true candidate for President in the White House. Although the odds are against Hillary Clinton, her Administration would have lots of young staff members on her team, and they are out there now, those of a younger generation spreading the word.
'Diversity' is to be found in the Republican Party and you have plenty of young politicians of all color to place your hopes on.
xfiler93 - But, she is a woman and it's time for a woman to be president! How silly.
Was she close to the Moose like she was to taking fire in the middle east?
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Bernie Sanders is about to eclipse Donald Trump's rally turnout in Arizona -- conservative Arizona! -- and the Times is giving Hillary Clinton a full getting-to-know-you magazine spread even though she can't get her campaign out of first gear.
How about reporting more information about candidates whose ideas and passion are already winning over ordinary people, rather than reporting on candidates whose flameless rhetoric is winning over only people who want jobs and favors from the next administration?
How about reporting more information about candidates whose ideas and passion are already winning over ordinary people, rather than reporting on candidates whose flameless rhetoric is winning over only people who want jobs and favors from the next administration?
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"Mrs. Clinton, why is it that in all the years you were on the Board of Directors at Wal-Mart, you never went on record proposing wage hikes for their low-paid workers?"
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They used to promulgate the lie that she was "the smartest woman in the world." Remember that? But, she's used these last few years to totally disprove that assumption...
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Hillary is sinking faster than Ted Kennedy’s Oldsmobile….
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I'm looking forward to the Clinton - Kardashian ticket.
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Hillary IS the moose, and the moose is getting to be very, very old.
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She an "re re re re" introduce herself all she likes. At the end of the day, the American people can still see the turd in that shiny new box.
This is why folks, mainly on the Left, are so drawn to Sanders. He doesn't pander to whomever is in the room. He at least has the integrity to be, unabashedly, who he is. And while I don't agree with politically, I have the utmost respect for him due to his sincerity.
This is why folks, mainly on the Left, are so drawn to Sanders. He doesn't pander to whomever is in the room. He at least has the integrity to be, unabashedly, who he is. And while I don't agree with politically, I have the utmost respect for him due to his sincerity.
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Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton has raised $47 million for her campaign. That does NOT include super pac money, which brings her total to over $60 million. The ALEC/Koch brothers republican/libertarian/tea party candidates RELY on BIG democracy-destroying super pac money and the major media, especially fox so-called news and RL et al, to buy their coverage. The vast majority of Americans want to Get BIG money out of politics. Electing democrats, independents and other politicians who TRULY want to restore democracy in America - like Hillary Rodham Clinton - is the ONLY way. Let's Do It!.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campa...
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/election-2016-campa...
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You are all delusional. After almost 7 years of progressive policy you want more of the same. Are you better off now? "She will be an OK president." "I will vote for her because she is a woman" I do not blame her I blame you the ones that vote in another unqualified candidate into office. We usually get the president we deserve but... we deserve better.
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The Edsel maxed out at three rollouts. How many has it been now for Mrs. Clinton? It's impossible for an "everyday American" to keep track.
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I am betting she never ate moose in her life. It is one of those lies that she feels compelled to tell, even there is no call for it whatsoever.
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She is smart but, it turns out, not all that impressive. Kind of mundane, really. The more you get to know her, the less there seems to be to get to know.
Turns out, the most exciting thing about Hillary is her image.
Turns out, the most exciting thing about Hillary is her image.
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Smart sounds correct, and if she is 'mundane', bring it on. A stabilizing force to be reckoned with, and although this American is not acquainted with Mrs. Clinton personally, she works like a horse, thinks like a man, and is a Woman of Substance. I know because a famous American economist has met her on several occasions and he has a low-tolerance level for fools.
To my mind we have enough excitement already, and an impressive beyond extraordinary President on board. Not that we care, mind you, no that would take too much vision on our part from the comfort of our armchairs near the A/C.
To my mind we have enough excitement already, and an impressive beyond extraordinary President on board. Not that we care, mind you, no that would take too much vision on our part from the comfort of our armchairs near the A/C.
"Turns out, the most exciting thing about Hillary is her image."
It's a tarnish image if you look closely into her past shenanigans
From White Water land deals in ARK to her own secret e-mail system as SoS.
Scandals are abound.
It's a tarnish image if you look closely into her past shenanigans
From White Water land deals in ARK to her own secret e-mail system as SoS.
Scandals are abound.
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We do seem to have an affinity for scandals, especially in America having grown up with a few taking place over my head. If I remember correctly it was Bill Clinton who acquired a tarnished image and we couldn't get enough of it, with our eyes glued to the newspapers. 'O the shame of it all, how despicable', we exclaimed. There goes national security, look at the President and what he has done to his poor wife and the Country.
Give this American a break with the tabloid reporting and hatred, the mob howling for blood. Mrs. Clinton is the only politician running for Presidency who has validity for this voter's support, and makes one feel at ease in the face of this muddle of marathon runners running off in all directions, while she remains cool and contained.
It is possible she may be facing Walker in the political arena soon, and she has my endorsement because she is far more recognizable to my mind than any of these political anomalies walking among our midst at a pivotal time in American history where the Future of our Country and its vision is more important than ever.
Give this American a break with the tabloid reporting and hatred, the mob howling for blood. Mrs. Clinton is the only politician running for Presidency who has validity for this voter's support, and makes one feel at ease in the face of this muddle of marathon runners running off in all directions, while she remains cool and contained.
It is possible she may be facing Walker in the political arena soon, and she has my endorsement because she is far more recognizable to my mind than any of these political anomalies walking among our midst at a pivotal time in American history where the Future of our Country and its vision is more important than ever.
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She changes her story so often it boggles the mind. The queen of flip flop.
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I just do not see Hillary being the POTUS. Despite the love affair with her from the left. She has way too much baggage to woo independents. The only shot she has is if we have a third party candidate.
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Hillary can't do interviews. She can't do speeches. She lies to cover her tracks. If people think they need to rally behind this phony. Don't believe a word they say. Vote your conscious. She will not take you to the promise land.
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Great! Now we can Re-Re-Re- Reject Hillary Clinton!
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I will support Hillary Clinton if she is the Democratic nominee. But this story-- save for the moving vignette about Dorothy Rodham-- reinforced Clinton's image as a rigorously managed martinet.
Clinton's observations as a college girl about trying on personas merely adumbrate her tendency to adopt positions and personas for political gain as an adult in the public eye.
Clinton's observations as a college girl about trying on personas merely adumbrate her tendency to adopt positions and personas for political gain as an adult in the public eye.
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Maybe if she did some singing on the stump?
The old toy mystical answering devices had maybe 7 optional answers depending on chance. Ms. Clinton either refuses to answer, lies, or plays the victim. With three options, you don't even have to take the White House teleprompters along with you.
She's basically telling us all, ''Don't bother asking me anything because you know I'll just dodge the truth anyway.'' No wonder the statists love her.
She's basically telling us all, ''Don't bother asking me anything because you know I'll just dodge the truth anyway.'' No wonder the statists love her.
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Hillary isn't Re-Re-Reintorducing herself. The national media is just constantly putting out Re-Re-Re-Gotcha Hillary pieces, hoping that they can claim they took down the Clintons. And the rich guys who own each publication and news channel will be laughing all the way to the bank because we will be tuning in while their advertisers pay them more money than any of us will ever see in 1000 lifetimes. Don't believe everything these journalists tell you about any candidate, good or bad. Do your research!
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Hillary's campaign needs a re-boot every few weeks...what does that say about Hillary? Feels like the media is forcing her on the public, if this continues there may be a backlash. Sanders seems genuine and consistent, two qualities that Hillary severely lacks.
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I don't understand Hillary's popularity. Besides being secretive and controlling, she's apparently burned out on public life. She occasionally drums up a show of enthusiasm for workers' rights, but her speech on the whole sounds by rote, weary of politics. Is she running just so she won't disappoint the party, or to be the first woman president? Many voters have no interest in the personal Clinton or Romney or most other candidates. We want to know who they are professionally as presidential hopefuls, and in spite of Clinton's majority devoted following, she isn't cutting it. If Hillary wins, she'll likely do her own thing, pass all sorts of restrictive laws and avoid the press so the people have no idea what's going on. Clinton or Trump. Whoever votes in either one deserves the consequences. Wishing Sanders could win, at the same time I get the Sovereign Citizen movement. After Election 2016 I may ignore government completely and escape into adventurous autonomy.
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The ALEC/Koch brothers/Sheldon Adelson/dictator Grover Norquist game plan is to put out as many republican/libertarian candidates, fund their Super Pacs and get as many press opportunities as you can to try to destroy Hillary Rodham Clinton. Here's the most recent list of BIG democracy-destroying money candidates I can find:
Rubio:
Bush:
Walker:
Huckabee:
Carson: (dropped out)
Perry:
Cruz:
Santorum:
Jindal:
Paul:
Fiorina:
Kasich:
Christie:
Graham:
Pataki:
Trump
16 and counting and Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is smarter than all of them put together. Ignore these articles and comments and elect Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of the United States in 2016.
Rubio:
Bush:
Walker:
Huckabee:
Carson: (dropped out)
Perry:
Cruz:
Santorum:
Jindal:
Paul:
Fiorina:
Kasich:
Christie:
Graham:
Pataki:
Trump
16 and counting and Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is smarter than all of them put together. Ignore these articles and comments and elect Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of the United States in 2016.
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yiu need to stop drinking look-aid. Seriously.
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Sure, makes sense. Let's throw as much money as possible at as many candidates as possible, 15 of which will lose. A previous poster was proud of the fact that no Koch Brother candidate was elected in a previous election. So why are you so worried about the Super Pacs, which run on both sides? At least no one is threatening the one true Dem Super Pac, unions! Oh wait...that house may be crumbling down.
Thank you, njglea. I shall.
To the honest, I did not have the heart to read these political absurdities you took the trouble to list. It is depressing. I may be stupid, but I am not mad as a hatter. Hillary Rodham Clinton has substance and strong character while the other presidential hopefuls look like a skeleton crew.
To the honest, I did not have the heart to read these political absurdities you took the trouble to list. It is depressing. I may be stupid, but I am not mad as a hatter. Hillary Rodham Clinton has substance and strong character while the other presidential hopefuls look like a skeleton crew.
Such a weird article . . . fitting though for such weird person. No one really denies that Bill is very likely a rapist - a serial rapist. No one really denies that Hillary almost certainly knows about Bill's crimes or that she has protected him and enabled him. And for some reason, most people just don't want to talk about it.
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John, before we had banks that were, ''Too Big to Fail,'' we had a politician who was, ''Too Cool to Accuse & Convict.''
But the guy sure delivered on-camera and in person.
But the guy sure delivered on-camera and in person.
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I yield to no one in my belief that The Times had already saturated the readership with coverage of Secretary Clinton even prior to her Roosevelt Island address.
That said, the Mark Leibovich byline makes it hard not to read; and in this instance the following passage was worth reading (and writing):
"The setup [in which only part of Mr. Leibovich's interview with Secy. Clinton was on-the-record] was consistent with a general sense pervading this campaign that Clinton is stepping very carefully. It was also, for better or worse, who Hillary Clinton is. She is true to herself that way, I suppose. The recent fashion of candidates fetishizing their willingness to let it rip and ‘‘tell it like it is’’ can be a cheap and tiresome pose, too, even if journalists find it more congenial to their purposes."
For myself, despite all the negativity thrown at her by the Times, I remain convinced of the bottom-line accuracy of something I wrote about Secy. Clinton 4 months ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-an-open-le...
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I yield to no one in my belief that The Times had already saturated the readership with coverage of Secretary Clinton even prior to her Roosevelt Island address.
That said, the Mark Leibovich byline makes it hard not to read; and in this instance the following passage was worth reading (and writing):
"The setup [in which only part of Mr. Leibovich's interview with Secy. Clinton was on-the-record] was consistent with a general sense pervading this campaign that Clinton is stepping very carefully. It was also, for better or worse, who Hillary Clinton is. She is true to herself that way, I suppose. The recent fashion of candidates fetishizing their willingness to let it rip and ‘‘tell it like it is’’ can be a cheap and tiresome pose, too, even if journalists find it more congenial to their purposes."
For myself, despite all the negativity thrown at her by the Times, I remain convinced of the bottom-line accuracy of something I wrote about Secy. Clinton 4 months ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-an-open-le...
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Well so far... or come to faaaar... the mass media has been ignored for a month, herded down the road on display in a rope pen, and then like lovesick teenagers asked the penetrating question of "what's your favorite ice cream flavor"? Coming up next....the mass media's "Hillary tattoos" to show their love sick loyalty to Hill-a-ry. What in Texas is called a ownership cattle brand.
Rolling rolling rolling.....
Rolling rolling rolling.....
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Poor Hillary. She needs lots of caffeine tablets to keep going. Clinton herself must be praying for someone else to run. She is worn out!
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This piece said absolutely nothing. Though the writer has a talent for description.
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Hmmm...The amount of people liking the NYT picks, which favor Hillary, are chicken feed compared to the Reader's Picks talking about giving some ink to Sanders....chicken feed!
Get a clue NYT, the people want some change.
Get a clue NYT, the people want some change.
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The sugary pieces like this will do one thing only: make her even more repulsive than before readin it. Not an easy task. Well done.
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The repackaging of Hillary reminds me of the way sub-prime mortgages were magically turned into AAA bonds with convoluted mathematical models and rating agencies that looked the other way.
You can put anything into a shiny new box and wrap a pretty bow around the package, but what's inside is still the same no matter how pretty the package looks.
At this point, I'll be voting for Bernie if for no other reason than he seems completely devoid of all packaging; what you see seems to be what you get.
You can put anything into a shiny new box and wrap a pretty bow around the package, but what's inside is still the same no matter how pretty the package looks.
At this point, I'll be voting for Bernie if for no other reason than he seems completely devoid of all packaging; what you see seems to be what you get.
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No comment from Hillary on the bizarre resurrection of Reconstruction by the Yanks?
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She's been rolled out so many times it's not funny any longer. The media doesn't help here. Why must we be treated to a new and improved Hillary all the time? Why can't she be Hillary Clinton who happens to be running for president a second time? Why can't her achievements be evaluated independently of Bill? Yes, she helped him and I'm sure he helped her when it came to being Secretary of State. However, most marriages work that way. The fact is that she couldn't have been a halfway decent senator or Secretary of State without having some pretty good political instincts of her own. Personally I don't love the woman but I don't love any politician. However, given what we've got running on the GOP side now and the paucity of challengers on the Democrats side, she's not too bad. Besides, she's had a real life, raised a child, has a grandchild, and has been involved in government. She knows how it works unlike the GOP which doesn't seem to want the government to work for anyone but them.
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Yes, let's reintroduce Hillary Clinton to all the new voters who have come of age since Bill Clinton left the White House in 2000. For instance, there is the episode where Hillary opened a futures trading account when Bill was the $35,000 a year governor of Arkansas. In one year she managed to roll a $5k initial deposit up to $100k by having profitable trades allocated to the account by a Refco broker on behalf of Tyson Foods.
Basically, she accepted a bribe on behalf of her husband thru a money pass.
Basically, she accepted a bribe on behalf of her husband thru a money pass.
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No matter how many times she may say it, I would NEVER believe her if she uttered: "Ah feel your pain."
The only pain she has ever felt and will ever feel is not becoming president.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
The only pain she has ever felt and will ever feel is not becoming president.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Zack
Even if Jeb Bush or Scott Walker only uttered once: "Ah feel your pain", I might start to laugh. Hillary Clinton is tough and volatile. She does not give her friendship easily. She is distant and aloof, but if you have the fortune of gaining her trust, she is there in a real way to help if one is in trouble with her strong presence, empathetic and kind, without ever being mushy and wearing her heart on a sleeve.
Even if Jeb Bush or Scott Walker only uttered once: "Ah feel your pain", I might start to laugh. Hillary Clinton is tough and volatile. She does not give her friendship easily. She is distant and aloof, but if you have the fortune of gaining her trust, she is there in a real way to help if one is in trouble with her strong presence, empathetic and kind, without ever being mushy and wearing her heart on a sleeve.
Ah, just call her President and get it over with. Nomination shnomination... Who could be bothered.
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"She betrayed an almost wistful longing for that time, contrasting her energy and freedom then with the exhaustions of her public life today..." No one forced her to become a senator, Secretary of State, or a presidential candidate - she volunteered. There is some kind of "Tracy Flick-ness" [from "Election"] that appears difficult to fathom in the sense that it is not clear who or what is driving her; indeed why she is even so driven.
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I think I'll sit it out in 2016. The GOP shows 15 candidates ranging in ideas and philosophies, and all we can mustard is 2 or 3 folks trying to compete as to who leans the furtherest to the left without recognizing that we have moderates that need a voice too. Good grief...
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Fine but don't complain about the results. People sitting it out is what gave us the disastrous results in 2014.
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This is so nuts. Not one primary vote has been cast or counted, and yet the Times has decided that the Democrats already have their candidate. Why? Except that she is sitting on a gigantic stash of cash, I don't know. Former and current senators and governors have declared their candidacy...and are basically ignored. Why? I don't know that either. Does anyone?
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There was a NYT article recently about the difficulty Clinton volunteers are having finding affordable lodgings near her Brooklyn HQ. When I think of how much money is flowing into her campaign; how much is being devoured by an army of parasitic prognosticators, spinners and hangers-on -- to very little effect, I concluded that anyone who volunteers for Mrs. Clinton is the very definition of "chump".
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Stan, I think it's a safe assumption that every reporter and media higher-up who missed the Civil Rights crusade by fate of birth was totally sold on the Obama candidacy the day he announced, and never even thought about what the candidate wanted to do - because this was their chance to March in Selma and Montgomery and Memphis.
To the same degree, every female reporter and media personality who was born too late to march with Betty Friedan and the others will flop for Hillary no matter the various forms of unpleasantness tied to her car like so many tin cans.
To the same degree, every female reporter and media personality who was born too late to march with Betty Friedan and the others will flop for Hillary no matter the various forms of unpleasantness tied to her car like so many tin cans.
In EVERY Clinton public appearance, what it always notably absent are the blacks and Latinos. She has promised them the world--where are THEY?
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Didn't rope them in time
Oh how sweet. The dear lady has eaten moose stew. This article is a fawning political fluff up of a political hack whose ego and sense of entitlement are in no need of further inflation.
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I just really worry about how old Hillary looks - old and, well, white, if I may be very frank! Does this nation need an old white woman at the helm? I really wish the Democrat Party had a younger, more progressive woman running, someone in her late 40, perhaps a smart lesbian, that would be a real first - and someone willing to champion Single Payer and real gun control.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg look rather elderly and frail but she's sharp as a tack and more than able to do her job. I don't think we should judge by appearances.
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Why is the fact that she is white a problem? I thought we're all striving for a color-blind society.
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Maybe you could put your request into a DNC "Candidate Identity" suggestion box.
"No one would expect Clinton to meet her husband’s impossible standard as communicator, or Obama’s as speech-giver."
This is a graceful way of saying Hillary Clinton has very limited political talent.
This is a graceful way of saying Hillary Clinton has very limited political talent.
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I think the voters in the Democratic primary need to figure out who is going to fight harder for the views they are espousing.
Will it be the one who assembles 200 advisers to craft her policy, or the guy who's been saying the same thing since 1972?
Will it be the one who assembles 200 advisers to craft her policy, or the guy who's been saying the same thing since 1972?
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I think Hillary would make a good president, and she is far more desirable than any of the possibly electable alternatives. There is not a single one among the Republicans who is not terrifying. Kasich, our governor here in Ohio, may be a bit less malevolent than the others, but besides not having a chance, is an immature loose cannon.
Among the Democrats, Biden, whom I admire as a person, is too old, is a bit of a loose cannon himself, and has no money. I find Webb very appealing, but again, no money, no chance. So, it's Hillary or someone very, very bad. The affluent ideological purists in salt-water country can tolerate another Bush; the rest of us cannot.
The problem is, most voters want their candidate to be personally appealing. Nerds don't win, and neither do scolds. Bill Clinton, for all of his liabilities, was neither, and remains beloved. In contrast, Hillary reminds too many people, men especially, of their ex-spouses or their cranky fifth-grade teachers. Unfair? Yep. But that's the world we live in. Hillary needs to re-brand and we all must hope that the Repubs pick someone even more unappealing.
If she does win, she will receive a storm of abuse far exceeding that directed at Obama. Haters learn to hate women before they learn about race. But Hillary will, I believe, expect it, survive it, and succeed.
Among the Democrats, Biden, whom I admire as a person, is too old, is a bit of a loose cannon himself, and has no money. I find Webb very appealing, but again, no money, no chance. So, it's Hillary or someone very, very bad. The affluent ideological purists in salt-water country can tolerate another Bush; the rest of us cannot.
The problem is, most voters want their candidate to be personally appealing. Nerds don't win, and neither do scolds. Bill Clinton, for all of his liabilities, was neither, and remains beloved. In contrast, Hillary reminds too many people, men especially, of their ex-spouses or their cranky fifth-grade teachers. Unfair? Yep. But that's the world we live in. Hillary needs to re-brand and we all must hope that the Repubs pick someone even more unappealing.
If she does win, she will receive a storm of abuse far exceeding that directed at Obama. Haters learn to hate women before they learn about race. But Hillary will, I believe, expect it, survive it, and succeed.
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The fact that HRC is a woman is the only reason supporters have given for supporting her candidacy. Nobody really likes or trusts her.
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Prediction: the 2016 election will make the record books with one of the lowest voter turnouts ever. Both the Democratic and Republican machines have flagrantly ignored their constituents for far too long. Unbelievably, voters DO catch on eventually, and by 2016 they may realize that they might as well just stay home and abandon it all to the guys with the big money.
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"No one would expect Clinton to meet her husband’s impossible standard as communicator, or Obama’s as speech-giver" - I would expect that from a person who wants to be my president. I would also expect that person to answer voter's and reporters questions in the appropriate venues without an air of martyrdom. She is running for president, this is how it works. It has not been forced on her and it is not unique to her candidacy. I do not understand why so much is written about the hardship of scrutiny. She can stop campaigning and go home at any time. Does she imagine that the situation will change if and when she gets the job that she is asking us to give to her? In that case I would expect even better speeches and even more answers.
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What the republicans have on offer (at present) are a baker's dozen plus of assorted sub par malcontents that range from plain stupid to completely unhinged with a good dose of meanness and mediocrity mixed in. I regard most of them with disbelief, disgust and trepidation (the comedic element has disappeared), and share those feelings equally for the crowds that support them.
I adore Sen. Sanders. Have never warmed up to Hillary but wish I could. Like others have said, it's a sad commentary on this great country when the offerings seem so lacking. All I can say is that it's going to be a long fifteen months, and that many things can happen in that time. We need a hero. One can hope.
I adore Sen. Sanders. Have never warmed up to Hillary but wish I could. Like others have said, it's a sad commentary on this great country when the offerings seem so lacking. All I can say is that it's going to be a long fifteen months, and that many things can happen in that time. We need a hero. One can hope.
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Mary Lee Sargent said: ‘‘I love that she is a woman — that’s a huge deal for me’’.
I wonder what is more important for Mary Lee Sargent, that Hillary Clinton is a liar and a corrupt person or that she "is a woman"?
I wonder what is more important for Mary Lee Sargent, that Hillary Clinton is a liar and a corrupt person or that she "is a woman"?
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Fair warning: You people will be accomplices when, on election night, Hillary stands there on that stage and starts to cry because she lost-again- the job she thinks that she deserves. After all, its 'her turn'.
You guys are part of the problem here , enabling her to believe she will be elected, when its the farthest from reality.
You have a fear that I am right, and thats understandable since 70+% of this nation does NOT trust her, did NOT want obamacare, did NOT vote for gay marriage. These things were shoved down our throats, people dont like that 'choice' .
Its understandable the fears you have, but just remember- in reality, when she starts to cry-remember that you helped her get there and this is partly your fault.
Have a nice day. ;-)
You guys are part of the problem here , enabling her to believe she will be elected, when its the farthest from reality.
You have a fear that I am right, and thats understandable since 70+% of this nation does NOT trust her, did NOT want obamacare, did NOT vote for gay marriage. These things were shoved down our throats, people dont like that 'choice' .
Its understandable the fears you have, but just remember- in reality, when she starts to cry-remember that you helped her get there and this is partly your fault.
Have a nice day. ;-)
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Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
Won't Get Fooled Again!
Same as the old boss
Won't Get Fooled Again!
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Fourth time still not a charm!
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Not re-re-re-re introduced; same old, same old, same old
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I'm already suffering from Hillary burnout syndrome and it's 16 months before the election.In a country of 360 million,is Hillary really the best the Dems have to offer?Hillary is just not inspiring at all and her solutions are merely rehashes of old proposals we've heard for at least 25 years.Hillary sees Larry Summers as an economic advisor.Larry already advised Bill and Obama during their presidencies.Larry is just not the economic guru most people think he is.
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I don't think she can recover after she left our ambassador alone in Libya to die. He begged for security support. She put politics over honor.
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Why tell a lie that is so easy to disprove? It makes you look foolish.
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How are you going to disprove it?
Maybe emails stored on her private email server?
Oh, wait . . .
Maybe emails stored on her private email server?
Oh, wait . . .
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There is no way I will vote for Hillary. I never fathomed voting for a Republican, but I will do it if it means we can hit rock bottom that much faster. I'm personally tired of the slow slide into socioeconomic irrelevance. Hillary wont stop it. Let us get to the "social unrest" that much faster, please.
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She's just another wall-street candidate, with a few super pacs supporting her to boot. I hate the fact that this is the best out there and the only one anyone on the left who is taken seriously. I hate, hate, hate the fact that I'm going to have to end up voting for her just to keep what ever GOP bozo they put up against her.
Now Sanders is a candidate I can stand behind. Elizabeth Warren would have been my first choice. But Clinton?!?! C'mon. The inevitability of her winning the democratic nomination coupled with the unfortunate and ridiculousness of a two party system is, frankly, depressing. Politics aren't dead, but democracy truly is in this country.
Now Sanders is a candidate I can stand behind. Elizabeth Warren would have been my first choice. But Clinton?!?! C'mon. The inevitability of her winning the democratic nomination coupled with the unfortunate and ridiculousness of a two party system is, frankly, depressing. Politics aren't dead, but democracy truly is in this country.
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Hillary reminds me of one of the guys, an old guard politician who says all the right things publicly and then does another with the power elite. in other words she's a couple of steps backwards, not a representative of progress. i get no sense of urgency or sincerity from her regarding serious problems of the day such as the ongoing fight for someone other than the 1 percent to get their fair share. Elizabeth Warren for prez.
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How does Warren change the metric of electing a one-per center as both she and Hillary represent? I'm so confused! Why do you think rich people want to really change the system that enriched them?
Why is anyone supporting this corrupt individual?
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The Clintons send their regards.
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Sybil didn't need this many personalities
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Is anyone else tired of hearing the names Clinton and Bush. Hillary is not Bill. The economic recovery Bill Clinton gets credit for really belongs to Bill Gates and the rest of the computer infustry. Bill happened to be in office when American industry began benefiting from computerization of business.
While Secretary of State the only memory I have of Hillary is her tirade during the Benghazi hearings. Her use of a private server for her emails put security at risk and now there are questions of possible misuse of her position as SOS to increase the coffers st the Clinton Foundation.
The best thing she has going for her is all of the declared GOP candidates are no better. Let's hope John Kasich gets in.
While Secretary of State the only memory I have of Hillary is her tirade during the Benghazi hearings. Her use of a private server for her emails put security at risk and now there are questions of possible misuse of her position as SOS to increase the coffers st the Clinton Foundation.
The best thing she has going for her is all of the declared GOP candidates are no better. Let's hope John Kasich gets in.
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Very simply, Hillary deserve to be in jail her handling of the email while Secretary of State. Let's see if she can reintroduce herself from behind prison bars.
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Personally, when I look back through the years, not to mention the "Granny" Clinton speech she gave at the New School the other day, I just can't help thinking there's something creepy about her multiple personalities.
I know, I know, she was forced into all those other personalities because of the circumstances of whatever period we're talking about, because her man wronged her, because it was what she had to do to get ahead and reach the point where she could introduce us to her "real" personality, and on and on. It still creeps me out (even though I give he credit for getting rid of the Arkansas accent) and for now am contributing to the Bernie Sanders campaign. He doesn't seem to have those multiple personality issues.
I know, I know, she was forced into all those other personalities because of the circumstances of whatever period we're talking about, because her man wronged her, because it was what she had to do to get ahead and reach the point where she could introduce us to her "real" personality, and on and on. It still creeps me out (even though I give he credit for getting rid of the Arkansas accent) and for now am contributing to the Bernie Sanders campaign. He doesn't seem to have those multiple personality issues.
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Unfortunately, the clumsy attempt at being "conspiratorial" with the moose conversation shows she lacks her husband's finesse for dazzling people. Bill would have the journalist feeling energized and flattered, with the perception of having shared a special confidence. I'm afraid it's looking unlikely that Mrs. Clinton will really excite the electorate.
But hopefully she will be do ok against the rather uninspired Jeb Bush campaign.
But hopefully she will be do ok against the rather uninspired Jeb Bush campaign.
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To anyone with a short memory, or too young to remember, the Clintons' sales pitch back in 1992 was "Putting People First." It took awhile, but by the time the '08 financial meltdown rolled around, it finally became clear that the people they were talking about were themselves.
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And I can remember the excuses some of her supporters made for Whitewater and other poor investments back in Arkansas -- i.e., her marriage was so tumultuous she was worried it would split up and was afraid she wouldn't be able to support her and Chelsea and would become a bag lady. I always wish some enterprising reporter would dig that up and ask her whether she's gotten over her fear of becoming a bag lady.
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The "dynasty" beef against Hillary's candidacy doesn't hold much water. A wife following her president-husband in an election 16 years after he left office, during which interval she became, on her own merit, a US Senator (winning her seat in a different state from the one her husband ran as governor) and Secretary of State, does not constitute a dynasty. Chelsea appears to have no ambitions for office.
The Bushes, for their part, have produced 4 generations of elected politicians, from Senator Prescott Bush to Texas Land Commissioner (and aspiring Texas Governor or US Senator) George Prescott Bush. By any measure this is a dynasty, that has so far produced a Senator, two governors, two presidents (the first of whom also served as CIA director, Ambassador to China and Vice President), a new aspiring president and his ambitious son. The Bushes are the most prolific dynasty in American history, outstripping the Adamses (2 presidents, father and son) and the Kennedys (a president, 3 Senators and 2 congressmen, from 2 generations). And the Bushes are still in the arena.
Bill Clinton was a flawed man, but a very good president. The question of whether his wife stands on his shoulders is irrelevant. Her record and experience as Senator and Secretary of State constitute the best qualifications for the White House among the candidates for either party.
The Bushes, for their part, have produced 4 generations of elected politicians, from Senator Prescott Bush to Texas Land Commissioner (and aspiring Texas Governor or US Senator) George Prescott Bush. By any measure this is a dynasty, that has so far produced a Senator, two governors, two presidents (the first of whom also served as CIA director, Ambassador to China and Vice President), a new aspiring president and his ambitious son. The Bushes are the most prolific dynasty in American history, outstripping the Adamses (2 presidents, father and son) and the Kennedys (a president, 3 Senators and 2 congressmen, from 2 generations). And the Bushes are still in the arena.
Bill Clinton was a flawed man, but a very good president. The question of whether his wife stands on his shoulders is irrelevant. Her record and experience as Senator and Secretary of State constitute the best qualifications for the White House among the candidates for either party.
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Hillary's "record" is long on mileage, short on accomplishment, and bountiful on profit.
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Hillary has as much of her "own merit" as W had when he was elected. Which was not much despite his two terms as Texas governor.
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Don't disagree with the Bush comments and a need to scale back that dynasty but to suggest that Hillary winning the open Democratic Senate seat in blue New York on merit is pretty flimsy evidence of accomplishment. Even her SOS appointment was simply payback for Obama not bowing down to her ascension. Remember, Hillary was anointed to be in office in 2008, 8 years after her husband left before a half white, half black man upended her grand plan. The Republicans had to to suffer through Dole and McCain as putting forth the "deserved" one, and now the Democrats get a bit of the same. If anyone (outside of the urban oasis bubbles that is) thinks the country is going to put up with another 4 years of this current experiment they are in for a big surprise come November of 2016.
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With all the reinvention you would think she would find one character that appears honest and likable.
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That goes to show what horrible team she has assembled and why she lost to Obama last time. They can't even figure out what their polling tells them or refuse to admit what It's telling them: hang it up cause the people don't want, like or trust her.
crowd management is a politicians key talent, often misunderstood by those in the 'crowd'. as one of 'the crowd', at large, each of us must choose the best, the most educated and tenacious one from 'the crowd' to represent us. its arduous and demanding, depending on 'one of the crowd', to fully represent 'all of the crowd', at least as the republic we stand for, conceives as a true democracy. (or close enough to one). my best hopes for all those who indulge their time and efforts in the process, as it keeps them out of trouble, employed and feeling useful, at least for a while. now, where did i put that election countdown timer, i know its soemwhere?
I don't really hold out hope that the D's will not vote for her, when it comes down to it you all will, but someday, someway we need to get beyond our two party political system. It's ruining us and now only producing presidential candidates from the same two families.
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For crying out loud, why don't they just start a whole new political party and name it the "Entitlement Party"?
Jeb and Hilliary should just become running partners (which no doubt they would do to get inside the White House) and get it over with.
Dear NYT's, your readership is looking through you and what do we see? You're either not very ambitious covering candidates equally or you're helping Candidates with the most money because influence matters more to you than making our Country the best it can be for all of our citizens.
You have so much room to do better, please I beg of you, Do a better job of covering this presidential race!
Jeb and Hilliary should just become running partners (which no doubt they would do to get inside the White House) and get it over with.
Dear NYT's, your readership is looking through you and what do we see? You're either not very ambitious covering candidates equally or you're helping Candidates with the most money because influence matters more to you than making our Country the best it can be for all of our citizens.
You have so much room to do better, please I beg of you, Do a better job of covering this presidential race!
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I guess you guys at the NYT really like Hillary, huh?
When does the part about informing the readers about the other Democratic candidates kick in?
When does the part about informing the readers about the other Democratic candidates kick in?
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And the many Republicans.
Jim Webb is the only viable candidate the democrats have. Shhh don't tell them...
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HRC is a bit like France's Francois Mitterrand, around politically for so long with so much baggage and personal compromises that the nation felt comfortable with his experience and limitations. She will be our first female president.
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If Bernie Sanders is not put forward by Democrats (which I believe to be likely) then I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton. Even and bought-and-paid-for Hillary is yards better than the wingnuts that are lining up for the Republican nod.
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I do not need nor want another managed candidate.
Maybe Mr. Trump and Governor Christie are brash and outspoken, but you know where they really stand.
The goal of a managed campaign is to get votes and the election all is forgotten. Too often is has also been forgiven.
Find someone besides a Clinton or a Bush.
Find someone you trust and believe in.
Maybe Mr. Trump and Governor Christie are brash and outspoken, but you know where they really stand.
The goal of a managed campaign is to get votes and the election all is forgotten. Too often is has also been forgiven.
Find someone besides a Clinton or a Bush.
Find someone you trust and believe in.
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The way people campaign hints at the way they are likely to govern.
Trump is an uninformed blowhard. Christie is a bully. Jeb Bush caters to the wealthy first. Bernie Sanders is grounded, old-fashioned and firmly left-wing. Ted Cruz is an opportunist. Huckabee is one step shy of starting an apocalyptic doomsday cult.
And Hillary Clinton is a triangulator, friendly in person but cerebral in her constant calculation of the American public. Endless triangulation is hard for people to believe in, even if it's smart, informed triangulation. I like her as a person, but she has triangulated so much that it's hard to really know her, and even harder for people to get behind her enthusiastically.
Literally the only people I know who love her are Baby Boomer women, and I think that's more on principle ("a woman president!") than anything else.
Trump is an uninformed blowhard. Christie is a bully. Jeb Bush caters to the wealthy first. Bernie Sanders is grounded, old-fashioned and firmly left-wing. Ted Cruz is an opportunist. Huckabee is one step shy of starting an apocalyptic doomsday cult.
And Hillary Clinton is a triangulator, friendly in person but cerebral in her constant calculation of the American public. Endless triangulation is hard for people to believe in, even if it's smart, informed triangulation. I like her as a person, but she has triangulated so much that it's hard to really know her, and even harder for people to get behind her enthusiastically.
Literally the only people I know who love her are Baby Boomer women, and I think that's more on principle ("a woman president!") than anything else.
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Baby Boomer women? Vs.? You're lucky they exist. Without them and those before them the fraying rights you have now wouldn't exist. When you lose those rights, who will you look to for support? Enjoy your new patriarch - whoever he may be. Even Obama made sure women couldn't buy the morning after pill over the counter: "we don't want it right next to the bubblegum". Be careful what you wish for - and for all of the commenters demeaning women in this thread - remember that women's rights affect our sons lives too.
Mark, yes, the re-re-re-introduction of Hillary continues ad nauseam. But failing to mention Jerry Zeifman's (a loyal Democrat) recounting of the reasons why he would not (will not) write an endorsement of HRC based on his experiences with her while she was a staffer for the House Judiciary Committee impeachement hearings on Nixon. He considered her a liar then and his observations on her public life since her time on the committee have not altered his assessment. Dan Calabrese wrote about Zeifman's thoughts for the North Star Writer's Group and laments that the lame stream media has not given Zeifman's opinion more visibility. But this is not surprising because because Zeifman's observations do not fit the Leftist narrative on Hillary who await her coronation. G-d help us.
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Stop with all the Management, Choreography, and Videography! Just say what you have to say once and for all Hillary. SO over her. -Go Bernie 2016.
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Mrs. Clinton can remind us of the jobs she's had - First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State, but what is her vision
for our country ? When President Obama was campaigning he told us of his vision, and he has achieved
many of his goals. My sense is that Hillary Clinton has a vision of herself as the first woman president - that is not enough vision for the country or for me. Bernie
Sanders is the man we need !
for our country ? When President Obama was campaigning he told us of his vision, and he has achieved
many of his goals. My sense is that Hillary Clinton has a vision of herself as the first woman president - that is not enough vision for the country or for me. Bernie
Sanders is the man we need !
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A Hillary supporter complained that Hillary's critics take cheap shots at her. Predictably, that prompted other commenters to cite examples of Hillary's alleged badness, including this one:
"How 'bout those cattle futures in Arkansas?"
I've been following the numerous charges leveled against Bill and Hillary ever since 1992, and I've felt all of them were unfair, or at least seriously exaggerated. With just one exception: the one cited above.
For those who aren't familiar with the "cattle futures" charge, Hillary and Bill apparently speculated in the futures market in the 1980's (I don't recall whether it was "cattle" or something else, but it doesn't matter). They didn't put up much of their own money, but futures trades are typically highly leveraged, and theirs were. That meant that, if the market went "for" them (which, as I recall, happened), they'd make a lot of money, but if the market went against them, they'd lose a great deal more than just the "down payment" they'd actually put up.
One of two things was true about those highly leveraged trades – either:
1. Someone was effectively covering the Clintons' downside risk. That, indeed, was the accusation: that the brokerage firm was prepared to absorb the loss, if any, in exchange for hoped-for favors from Governor Bill Clinton; OR
2. Bill and Hillary were engaged in way-too-speculative trading – downright irresponsible trading – since they could have been on the hook for very large losses.
"How 'bout those cattle futures in Arkansas?"
I've been following the numerous charges leveled against Bill and Hillary ever since 1992, and I've felt all of them were unfair, or at least seriously exaggerated. With just one exception: the one cited above.
For those who aren't familiar with the "cattle futures" charge, Hillary and Bill apparently speculated in the futures market in the 1980's (I don't recall whether it was "cattle" or something else, but it doesn't matter). They didn't put up much of their own money, but futures trades are typically highly leveraged, and theirs were. That meant that, if the market went "for" them (which, as I recall, happened), they'd make a lot of money, but if the market went against them, they'd lose a great deal more than just the "down payment" they'd actually put up.
One of two things was true about those highly leveraged trades – either:
1. Someone was effectively covering the Clintons' downside risk. That, indeed, was the accusation: that the brokerage firm was prepared to absorb the loss, if any, in exchange for hoped-for favors from Governor Bill Clinton; OR
2. Bill and Hillary were engaged in way-too-speculative trading – downright irresponsible trading – since they could have been on the hook for very large losses.
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Not to mention Hillary's laughable assertion --televised, by the way-- that she'd learned to trade commodities futures by reading the Wall Street Journal. If you know anything about commodities trading, you know how preposterous this statement is.
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The article title is entirely fair:
"Re-Re-Re-Reintroducing Hillary Clinton"
We've all "known" Hillary since 1992 – a long time. But do you feel you know her positions on most things? I sure don't. To her credit, she's now putting out position papers (and speeches) on major issues, and so we should soon have a pretty clear picture of her. Only two problems:
1. Does it impair her credibility that such a late effort to lay out her positions has been necessary? Has it been our fault for not knowing where she stood till now, or hers? And if it was her fault, doesn't that mean we should question whether she really believes what she's telling us now?
2. Is she taking positions on major issues that reflect most voters' views? I don't think so – at least on one key issue: immigration, where her position is beyond that of Obama. Justified or not, "correct" or not, one can't help but notice that most Americans – including liberals – take a much more "pull up the gangplanks" position on immigration – at least illegal immigration – than Hillary (or Obama) thinks they do. If anyone doubts this, I strongly encourage you to read the comments on the recent NYT editorial concerning the murder of Ms. Steinle in San Francisco by a "troubled" immigrant who'd been deported 5 times already but was back again. I think Hillary is going to lose a lot of swing votes on that issue alone.
"Re-Re-Re-Reintroducing Hillary Clinton"
We've all "known" Hillary since 1992 – a long time. But do you feel you know her positions on most things? I sure don't. To her credit, she's now putting out position papers (and speeches) on major issues, and so we should soon have a pretty clear picture of her. Only two problems:
1. Does it impair her credibility that such a late effort to lay out her positions has been necessary? Has it been our fault for not knowing where she stood till now, or hers? And if it was her fault, doesn't that mean we should question whether she really believes what she's telling us now?
2. Is she taking positions on major issues that reflect most voters' views? I don't think so – at least on one key issue: immigration, where her position is beyond that of Obama. Justified or not, "correct" or not, one can't help but notice that most Americans – including liberals – take a much more "pull up the gangplanks" position on immigration – at least illegal immigration – than Hillary (or Obama) thinks they do. If anyone doubts this, I strongly encourage you to read the comments on the recent NYT editorial concerning the murder of Ms. Steinle in San Francisco by a "troubled" immigrant who'd been deported 5 times already but was back again. I think Hillary is going to lose a lot of swing votes on that issue alone.
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Her mother is not her "ancestor", and she does not need to "steal" her stories. Parents have profound impact on their children, especially to their lifelong values, by simply being who they are. I know how this is true for myself, and keep reminding myself how to behave for the sake of my kids.
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Looks like the Republicans and the ever-outraged Bernie Brigade members are joining hands to comment on this article.
I don't want the Democratic Party to nominate a pure-hearted, disheveled, leftist who will get creamed by any Republican candidate in 2016. To hell with that! I'm interested in, you know, WINNING elections. Good luck, Hillary.
I don't want the Democratic Party to nominate a pure-hearted, disheveled, leftist who will get creamed by any Republican candidate in 2016. To hell with that! I'm interested in, you know, WINNING elections. Good luck, Hillary.
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One has to wonder what is really going on when a reporter for the Grey Lady can't ask tough, hardball questions of someone seeking to be our president.
Here's one: "Madame Secretary, under your husband's two terms as president, there was substantial deregulation of the financial markets. Do you agree with those who believe that the Global Financial Crisis of 2008 was a direct consequence of those deregulatory steps and if so what specific steps would you take to restore the sorts of Glass Steagall protections which your husband helped to eliminate? Finally, does the massive financial support you have, at least historically, received from the Wall Street financiers in any way compromise your ability to address these and other issues relating to the growing financial inequality in America? And if not, why not?"
Here's one: "Madame Secretary, under your husband's two terms as president, there was substantial deregulation of the financial markets. Do you agree with those who believe that the Global Financial Crisis of 2008 was a direct consequence of those deregulatory steps and if so what specific steps would you take to restore the sorts of Glass Steagall protections which your husband helped to eliminate? Finally, does the massive financial support you have, at least historically, received from the Wall Street financiers in any way compromise your ability to address these and other issues relating to the growing financial inequality in America? And if not, why not?"
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Private Pirate--I may just write YOU in as candidate! Excellent questions (that will sadly never be put to Hillary the Walmart hood).
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These should be hardball questions. If you take the money you should expect to be asked about it. That's why she has that stock answer always ready about it being the fault of the media and the right wing.
I don't know if I can deal with another year + of this kind of fawning love-note "reporting" on Hillary. Eight years of this with Obama was bad enough. Pathetic.
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Hilary is perhaps the most-despised politician in the USA. As a lifelong Republican, I am DELIGHTED that the Times and the most liberal Democrats are running her in 2016. As an American, I'm sad that there are no better and more statesmanlike Democrats inside that party.
Bring it on, Hilary. And bring it on New York Times. Your readers can expect daily puff-pieces like this one to try to inflate this dead politician!
Bring it on, Hilary. And bring it on New York Times. Your readers can expect daily puff-pieces like this one to try to inflate this dead politician!
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I rather think "the most liberal Democrats" are in Bernie Sanders' camp.
Bring it on, indeed. Once Jeb emerges from the Republican nutcake clown car, he will have pandered himself into a policy platform that fewer and fewer Americans want outside of the shrinking far-right Base. You'd think Republicans would have learned after the failures of McCain and Mitt. But no, you're going to have to lose the White House (and, quite possibly, the Senate), not just once, but maybe a few more times, in order to begin to perceive the consequences of your party's departure from the moderate middle of American politics.
Bring it on, indeed. Once Jeb emerges from the Republican nutcake clown car, he will have pandered himself into a policy platform that fewer and fewer Americans want outside of the shrinking far-right Base. You'd think Republicans would have learned after the failures of McCain and Mitt. But no, you're going to have to lose the White House (and, quite possibly, the Senate), not just once, but maybe a few more times, in order to begin to perceive the consequences of your party's departure from the moderate middle of American politics.
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if nothing else, "Clinton" will be forever synonymous with grotesquely insincere.
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"One has to ask just where Hillary Clinton would be without Bill Clinton. Would anyone have heard of her?"
Fair point, but just the opposite is probably true too: Where would Bill Clinton have been without Hillary? When he lost his first race for Governor of Arkansas, it reportedly was Hillary who grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and told him to get back out there. Sounds like he'd otherwise have wallowed in self-pity for so long after that loss that he might never have recovered.
To be sure, now it's probably the other way around: Hillary gets more benefit from Bill than vice-versa. But Bill's current help to Hilary wouldn't count for much if we'd never heard of Bill Clinton, and Hillary deserves considerable credit for ensuring that we heard of him.
I don't think Hillary would make much of a President, but credit where credit is due.
Fair point, but just the opposite is probably true too: Where would Bill Clinton have been without Hillary? When he lost his first race for Governor of Arkansas, it reportedly was Hillary who grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and told him to get back out there. Sounds like he'd otherwise have wallowed in self-pity for so long after that loss that he might never have recovered.
To be sure, now it's probably the other way around: Hillary gets more benefit from Bill than vice-versa. But Bill's current help to Hilary wouldn't count for much if we'd never heard of Bill Clinton, and Hillary deserves considerable credit for ensuring that we heard of him.
I don't think Hillary would make much of a President, but credit where credit is due.
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There are roughly 110 million women in America eligible to be president of the United States; I say we keep looking.
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The banality of Hillary.
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Ms Clinton is a weak candidate. She is a terrible campaigner and has never won a contested election.
Aside from ethics issues, her flaws will be very hard to hide when she is campaigning in the general election in front of crowds that are not packed with Clinton campaign operatives.
I suspect the D vs R debates will be cringeworthy for Ms Clonton's fans, although Bush may prove just as bad.
Aside from ethics issues, her flaws will be very hard to hide when she is campaigning in the general election in front of crowds that are not packed with Clinton campaign operatives.
I suspect the D vs R debates will be cringeworthy for Ms Clonton's fans, although Bush may prove just as bad.
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How did Sec. Clinton become the first female senator from New York, serving two terms if she has "never won a contested election"?
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I found a read of Hillary Clinton's first biography a pretty good insight into who she really is. She's been fighting for children's welfare and equal opportunity since before graduating from college. In my book, that's pretty genuine.
Now, on top of 2008, she has the extensive foreign policy experience which will greatly benefit her in this position. And then there's SCOTUS issues looming. And she's smart. This is more than enough for me, given the disastrous GOP Presidents I've seen as well as the Scalia/Thomas perspectives and opinions. I sure hope the American people can see the forest for the trees.
Now, on top of 2008, she has the extensive foreign policy experience which will greatly benefit her in this position. And then there's SCOTUS issues looming. And she's smart. This is more than enough for me, given the disastrous GOP Presidents I've seen as well as the Scalia/Thomas perspectives and opinions. I sure hope the American people can see the forest for the trees.
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I don't know much value you can put into any modern biography of any politician who is still seeking further office. It's essentially an advertising book.
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If you read an authorized biography, of anyone really, but definitely any politician, and come away with a negative impression of them, the book should have never been printed. The tiresome books that all candidates now feel compelled to release are all puff pieces.
I support Sanders, but if he doesn't get the nomination, I WILL vote and I WILL happily vote for Hillary Clinton.
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After skimming this article, I wholeheartedly agree with the poster who wondered if he was reading The Onion. It's really hilarious. And also kind of pathetic.
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All political considerations aside, why in the world would anyone choose this life? I'd feel like I was in prison, much of it in solitary confinement.
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Bob,
I agree with nearly everything you wrote, with one minor exception here:
"I would say that this is shaping up to be 2008 for [Hillary] all over again."
Except that there's no Barrack Obama this time, which means she'll get the nomination. I doubt she'll do well in the general election, though. I don't expect it to be very close.
I agree with nearly everything you wrote, with one minor exception here:
"I would say that this is shaping up to be 2008 for [Hillary] all over again."
Except that there's no Barrack Obama this time, which means she'll get the nomination. I doubt she'll do well in the general election, though. I don't expect it to be very close.
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But there is Senator Sanders.
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Conservatives shouldn't be afraid of Hillary, they should embrace her candidacy.
1. Hillary can't run on Obama's record of failure
2. Hillary can't run on the Democratic Party's record of failure
3. Hillary can't run on Bubba's record of impeachment and perversity.
4. Hillary can't run on her own failed career as a US Senator with no legislative accomplishments to her name
5. Hillary can't run on her failed record of Secretary of State and surrendering an US Ambassador to Al Qaeda terrorists on the anniversary of 911 and blaming it on a YouTube video.
6. Hillary can't run on her record of being a crook who has violated Federal Record Keeping and Archiving Law.
7. Hillary can't run on laundering foreign money into the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.
Hillary has no record to run on and has no purpose to run.
She is just a 70 year old geriatric grandma has been from the 90s trying to win the presidency on the name recognition of her husband.
She has no charisma, no charm, no purpose, and the press hates her.
You lose, liberals.
1. Hillary can't run on Obama's record of failure
2. Hillary can't run on the Democratic Party's record of failure
3. Hillary can't run on Bubba's record of impeachment and perversity.
4. Hillary can't run on her own failed career as a US Senator with no legislative accomplishments to her name
5. Hillary can't run on her failed record of Secretary of State and surrendering an US Ambassador to Al Qaeda terrorists on the anniversary of 911 and blaming it on a YouTube video.
6. Hillary can't run on her record of being a crook who has violated Federal Record Keeping and Archiving Law.
7. Hillary can't run on laundering foreign money into the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State.
Hillary has no record to run on and has no purpose to run.
She is just a 70 year old geriatric grandma has been from the 90s trying to win the presidency on the name recognition of her husband.
She has no charisma, no charm, no purpose, and the press hates her.
You lose, liberals.
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Conservatives aren't afraid of Hillary. Republican attacks may be coming much earlier, but that is because they have been given a likely general election opponent so much earlier, and Hillary has effectively driven many credible Democrats to wait for a better election cycle.
Hillary isn't the same candidate who lost the primary in 2008, she's worse, and Democrats are probably stuck with her.
Hillary isn't the same candidate who lost the primary in 2008, she's worse, and Democrats are probably stuck with her.
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I'm a huge liberal but this is hilarious. Well done.
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The press may hate her, but as soon as the general election begins, they will join together and do everything they can to drag her across the finish line.
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Reading the "readers' picks" on this article (after I read the article itself) convinced me that it was time for me to send a check to Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign. A huge thank you to the overwhelming majority of New York Times readers for reminding me where the passion and principle of progressive politics can still be found during this otherwise dismal election cycle.
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I got tired of Hilary Clinton over 20 years ago and she has done nothing to warrant my interest again.
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The only thing Hillar is attempting to run on is, "II'm a woman, vote for me". Other than that she as no agenda, no foresight and is delusional.
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Mrs. Clinton is not well liked out in the western States. Here in Nevada she is treated with a lot of skepticism. A lot of Democrats will not just not go out and vote due to voter apathy. A good Republican candidate will insure that she does not win Nevada.
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There's your problem, you don't have a good Republican candidate.
Democrats will vote in 2016.
Democrats will vote in 2016.
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The only thing I know about her is that she wants to be president. Oh so badly does she want to be president. How many times will she debase herself by rebooting her image until someone actually confronts her and tells her honestly that the genuine Hillary she keeps promising does not exist. She is a political animal, that's it.
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Hillary Re-Re-Re-Really has no business running for the highest office in the land.
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Who said you only get to make ONE (1) first impression??
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‘‘You know, I love parades.’’ -- Clinton
"You know, we love circuses." -- Voters
"You know, we love circuses." -- Voters
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No matter what her 500+ highly paid handlers, MSM, Congressional Dem careerists keeps repolishing her image and praising her, we -The Voters-are not buying.
We know she does stand for anything except her very own self promotion and self enrichment. Her long history of twisting the rules, cutting corners ,and lies speaks volumes, and she can never run away from it. From her days in ARK( White Water land deals, cattle trades, WalMart board). 9 years in the Senate ( Patroit Act, Iarq War). 4 years as SoS peddling access for donations.Wall Street 6 figure speeches. In 2000 she claimed to be “dead broke, penniless) then by 2010 we found out her networth is over 200 million. Let her go sell her agenda (if she has any) to WalMart store worker, see if they buy into it. She sat on WalMart board for 6 years collecting $350000/year in salary + stock options valued over 4 million. Never even suggested to WalMart management to offer thousands of poor store workers living wages or even basic benefits. She was happy cashing in on her patronage gig.
We know she does stand for anything except her very own self promotion and self enrichment. Her long history of twisting the rules, cutting corners ,and lies speaks volumes, and she can never run away from it. From her days in ARK( White Water land deals, cattle trades, WalMart board). 9 years in the Senate ( Patroit Act, Iarq War). 4 years as SoS peddling access for donations.Wall Street 6 figure speeches. In 2000 she claimed to be “dead broke, penniless) then by 2010 we found out her networth is over 200 million. Let her go sell her agenda (if she has any) to WalMart store worker, see if they buy into it. She sat on WalMart board for 6 years collecting $350000/year in salary + stock options valued over 4 million. Never even suggested to WalMart management to offer thousands of poor store workers living wages or even basic benefits. She was happy cashing in on her patronage gig.
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an unethical. lying failure, is this the best the democratic party can foist on the American public.
and a woman, who if the press weren't in awe would be reporting her failures, and her war on women to to protect her husband, who still was impeached, had to turn in his law license and was fined, a reason that she may have complained about being poor.
and a woman, who if the press weren't in awe would be reporting her failures, and her war on women to to protect her husband, who still was impeached, had to turn in his law license and was fined, a reason that she may have complained about being poor.
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Hillary is playing the game exactly the way she should play it. While the GOP is taking media time trying to see who can be the most outrageous, Hillary keeps quite. Since she has a target on her back, so anything she says will be fodder for the GOP. The plan is, let them jabbering among themselves and come out fighting when the time is right.
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My reaction to this is so what, she may be human. Hilary Clinton's troubles, along with her personal baggage of scandals and a vote for the Iraq war, should be at least two, her age, and her lack of integrity. These traits are certainly not unique to her. Most candidates have them. Bernie Sanders has the same age problem, but oddly for a politician, seems to be the exception with an actual integrity of spirit and purpose. If Hilary wishes to be president for any reason other than self fulfillment she needs to come out with new thoughts, new ideas, real ones, about what the future holds for a system that is failing-- capitalism as we live it in the United States. When it comes to societal reform she should to look to the Pope, now making speeches and traveling in South America, as he condemns our current form of capitalism and the West’s version of market economies blaming them for global warming, the spreading poor, and the ever widening disparity of wealth world wide. A repackaged, newly human Hilary listing left will not suffice—Not while she is also in bed with Wall Street- the predominant status quo.
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Wow--if the predominantly liberal NY Times commenters are this turned off by Hillary, can you imagine how the rest of the country perceives her? She may seem to be in a hermetic, fully-controlled bubble, but she must still realize that she's got worse image problems than her staff lets on.
I think a big part of the problem voters have with her is the disconnect between her statements about "reining in Wall Street", and the fact that the majority of her biggest donors over the years have been huge Wall Street banks. If she believes there's nothing inconsistent about that, she'd be well advised to explicitly address it, since it's on many people's minds anyway. It could only help improve voters' perceptions of her honesty, which is her main Achilles' heel.
I think a big part of the problem voters have with her is the disconnect between her statements about "reining in Wall Street", and the fact that the majority of her biggest donors over the years have been huge Wall Street banks. If she believes there's nothing inconsistent about that, she'd be well advised to explicitly address it, since it's on many people's minds anyway. It could only help improve voters' perceptions of her honesty, which is her main Achilles' heel.
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I think it is blatantly obvious that Hillary Clinton will say or do anything to win. I think it's time we got someone better, she represents more of the same.
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I find it to be exceedingly selfish of Hillary Clinton to put the country through her candidacy. She is doing this for one reason only: she wants power, and she will not be satisfied until she is president. The other jobs were mere stepping stones for her on a well paved route to the prize to which she feels entitled. Once the Republicans began their smear campaign in earnest, she will be buried in drama, including lies, half-truths, and a whole lot of truths. They have more mud to throw at her than at any other candidate, all of whom are mostly ignored by the NYT. I don't want to endure these attacks. I don't believe the country does
I am a 60 year old progressive Democratic woman, but I will NEVER vote for . Hillary Clinton and will have to vote for a third party candidate, hopefully Jill Stein of the Green Party, if Hillary is the nominee. Yes, I worry about the Supreme Court as much as any sane person does, but the Democrats have to offer a better nominee. I say Bernie Sanders; and if not Bernie, then why not Martin O'Malley? If neither of those, or some dark horse, then we may as well prepare for the next Republican presidency because Hillary will never win.
I am a 60 year old progressive Democratic woman, but I will NEVER vote for . Hillary Clinton and will have to vote for a third party candidate, hopefully Jill Stein of the Green Party, if Hillary is the nominee. Yes, I worry about the Supreme Court as much as any sane person does, but the Democrats have to offer a better nominee. I say Bernie Sanders; and if not Bernie, then why not Martin O'Malley? If neither of those, or some dark horse, then we may as well prepare for the next Republican presidency because Hillary will never win.
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This 63-year-old female independent voter wholeheartedly agrees with you, Charlotte.
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Hillary can yet again change her hair style and get yet another face lift, but she is who she's always been - a liberal who leans pretty far left but who pretends not to in order to get huge donations from the wealthy.
There is only so much cosmetics, hairdressers, plastic surgeons and "handlers" can do; in the end, she's still Hillary.
There is only so much cosmetics, hairdressers, plastic surgeons and "handlers" can do; in the end, she's still Hillary.
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Battle royal, not battle royale (title of book and movie).
The biggest threat to the team Clinton machine is that Bernie Sander's greater than expected success may cause Elizabeth Warren to re-evaluate her "no run" pledge. That would be a major game changer and there is still plenty of time for Warren to get into the race. If she has any Presidential ambitions (and what Senator doesn't!) by now she will have figured out that at 66 she is so close to Hillary's age that it's now or never because regardless of whether Hillary wins or loses in 2016 Elizabeth will be too old to run in 2020 or 2024.
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I too have wondered whether Elizabeth Warren has reconsidered her decision – though I doubt it, since Hillary does have a lock on the nomination, Sanders or no Sanders. But I wasn't aware that Warren is that old. You make a good point: this may be her last shot. Some say Hillary is too old (though Reagan was older), but even if she's not, Elizabeth Warren running in 2020 at age 70 would go nowhere. No candidate has ever been that old.
One thing I'm finding quite creepy is how many commenters think that if you're critical of Hilllary / supportive of Bernie, you're a Republican "plant," only pretending to be a Democrat / liberal.
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I guess I have to read more comments. It's mostly HRC bashing here from what I can see.
I find it kinda comical, i figure those are the Clinton plants.
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Those commenters unfortunately reflect the degree of denial and paranoia characterizing Hillary's campaign. She and her staff must get past those mindsets if she's going to have a decent shot at winning the general election.
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I am still waiting for my fellow commenters to list for me the ways in which Hillary Clinton has worked tirelessly for the general welfare--since I do not believe in dividing us up into competing interest groups--and in what ways she is *brilliant.* Make the list as short or as long as you want, but please fill it with actual, tangible accomplishments.
I voted twice--swear on my mother*s grave--for Obama, and got a continuation of perpetual war; Cheney*s foreign policy gal advising THIS White House and the relentless prosecution of whistleblowers, while the bankers got their biggest bonuses ever and are free to enjoy them. We got *healthcare reform* that was the biggest gift ever to the insurance industry. I AM happy with the non-proliferation accord with Iran, and desperately hope our bought-and-paid-for Congress doesn't demolish it.
But I digress. I used to be a Noo Yawka, and didn't appreciate Carpetbagger Hillary swooping in to *represent* me. I am no longer the radical fire-breather of my youth, but I wouldn*t vote for what is now called a Republican even if you threatened to drop me into a barrel of cockroaches. And I have never in my life voted for any kind of Republican, ever.
But if Hillary gets the nomination I am staying home. The integrity of my vote means something to me. I may not live long enough to see the ballot option *none of the above.* but that doesn't mean I am forced to vote for the least worst candidate.
Meanwhile I*m waiting for that list.
I voted twice--swear on my mother*s grave--for Obama, and got a continuation of perpetual war; Cheney*s foreign policy gal advising THIS White House and the relentless prosecution of whistleblowers, while the bankers got their biggest bonuses ever and are free to enjoy them. We got *healthcare reform* that was the biggest gift ever to the insurance industry. I AM happy with the non-proliferation accord with Iran, and desperately hope our bought-and-paid-for Congress doesn't demolish it.
But I digress. I used to be a Noo Yawka, and didn't appreciate Carpetbagger Hillary swooping in to *represent* me. I am no longer the radical fire-breather of my youth, but I wouldn*t vote for what is now called a Republican even if you threatened to drop me into a barrel of cockroaches. And I have never in my life voted for any kind of Republican, ever.
But if Hillary gets the nomination I am staying home. The integrity of my vote means something to me. I may not live long enough to see the ballot option *none of the above.* but that doesn't mean I am forced to vote for the least worst candidate.
Meanwhile I*m waiting for that list.
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ABC- Anyone but Clinton. Don't like her. Don't trust her. She's more processed and packaged than a bag of Doritos.
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I implore your apology, sir. For you have insulted Doritoes in an unpleasant and forgiven manor.
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The New Clinton -- Hillary Du Jour, if you will -- is as convincing as The New Nixon. But we fell for that flimflammery, didn't we?
Let's hope that this delusion doesn't turn into a national nightmare, too.
Let's hope that this delusion doesn't turn into a national nightmare, too.
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With a faux Democrat like Hillary, who really needs Republicans?
If I were a Republican, I would actually vote for Hillary-she's waaay more conservative, pro big business, pro rich, pro military than she projects.
If I were a Republican, I would actually vote for Hillary-she's waaay more conservative, pro big business, pro rich, pro military than she projects.
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Her campaign sounds like a new product launch from the likes of P&G or Coke.
All Hillary is missing is a 25% off sticker and you would think she was on the shelf at Wal-Mart.
You have to wonder if President Kennedy ever went 'off script' and was just himself for a moment or two during his campaign?
God help us as this will be a long campaign...
All Hillary is missing is a 25% off sticker and you would think she was on the shelf at Wal-Mart.
You have to wonder if President Kennedy ever went 'off script' and was just himself for a moment or two during his campaign?
God help us as this will be a long campaign...
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@JK: "all Hillary is missing is a 25% off sticker and you would think she was on the shelf at Wal-Mart."
Hahahaha! Absolutely! Except she is w-a-a-a-y past her "sell by" date. And the product was shoddy to begin with.
Hahahaha! Absolutely! Except she is w-a-a-a-y past her "sell by" date. And the product was shoddy to begin with.
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What does Kennedy and Hillary have in common ? Other than both being candidates ?
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I will vote for Hillary Clinton with pride. I have waited for years for a chance to vote for her for President. She will probably be the Democratic nominee for President, and I am deeply grateful to Bernie Sanders that he chose to run as a Democrat rather than run as an Independent and split the ticket as Ralph Nader did in the past.
Hillary has worked to improve the lot of women, children and families for her entire political career. She worked for a non-profit that helped women and children before she married Bill Clinton. She was the first to try to bring universal health care to the US. She became a Senator who could reach across the aisles and work with Republicans to pass bills. She worked for women and children again as Secretary of State.
I don't think any candidate in recent history has been as vilified by the opposition as Hillary has. Foes have made up terrible lies about her and blamed her husband's dalliances on her. They accuse her of being just like her husband which she is not. I think most married women understand the ridiculousness of assuming Hillary would be just like Bill. She is a separate person with ideas of her own. Bill has actually been a negative for her political career.
I urge everyone to peer beyond the cloud of hatred being spewed out against Hillary. We have an opportunity to elect a woman with high standards, an incredible work ethic and more experience than any other candidate.
Hillary has worked to improve the lot of women, children and families for her entire political career. She worked for a non-profit that helped women and children before she married Bill Clinton. She was the first to try to bring universal health care to the US. She became a Senator who could reach across the aisles and work with Republicans to pass bills. She worked for women and children again as Secretary of State.
I don't think any candidate in recent history has been as vilified by the opposition as Hillary has. Foes have made up terrible lies about her and blamed her husband's dalliances on her. They accuse her of being just like her husband which she is not. I think most married women understand the ridiculousness of assuming Hillary would be just like Bill. She is a separate person with ideas of her own. Bill has actually been a negative for her political career.
I urge everyone to peer beyond the cloud of hatred being spewed out against Hillary. We have an opportunity to elect a woman with high standards, an incredible work ethic and more experience than any other candidate.
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Actually it was Truman who first tried to bring universal healthcare to the US. And others, including Teddy Roosevelt and FDR, and tried for programs for those with limited income. The fact that Hillary is somehow getting credit for this tells you how strong the PR is.
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Old time friend of the Clintons, Larry Nichols, said when the Clintons started murdering children he got out. What is it going to take for you to leave the "we worship Clinton" club?
I just noticed the most recommended comments are pro Sanders but the majority of the NYT Picks favor Clinton. Perhaps it’s time to redistribute your election coverage to better reflect your readers’ opinions?
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Or just cover all the candidates fairly. I seem to recall something about the"paper of record"...
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Why would you go with a candidate that can be "pushed to the left"? It only means she isn't genuine in her concerns for the middle class, and will drop her campaign promises once she is in office. Why not go with a candidate that already consistently (for decades) has been on the side of the middle class and doesn't need "pushing to the left". With Bernie, we know what we would be getting.
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Zzzzz. This article just left me wishing the Times would be a bit fair and give some respectful coverage to Bernie Sanders (whom this article once again dimisses). I fear that, if, as seems likely, Mrs. Clinton buys her way to the nomination, she will lose to some dreadful Republican opponent, because she is a massively uninspiring candidate, with her husband's Republicrat leanings but without his charm and ability to connect with the public.
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Bernie Sanders for president.
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Re-re-re still doesn't fix boring. Bernie 2016!
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Reminder to the NY Times: Hillary is NOT the Democratic candidate for the presidency. Let's start covering her as just another candidate in the primary. Again. Just because she's been campaigning for nearly a decade doesn't mean she's won.
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Wasn't that true of Harold Stassen? Look how that worked out.
Mrs. Clinton's endless metamorphoses mask the lack of a core. The ultimate political chameleon. Whatever sells.
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Poor Hillary. She just wants this soooooooooooo badly. It's hard to rebrand and reintroduce yourself when your brand is seen as hunger for power and position. I don't really know if she wants to serve as president of this country which used to be ours, or if she just wants to win. I'm afraid it's the latter.
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What I'd like to know is how many of these commenters are from conservatives pretending to be liberals to help turn voters off of the only viable contender to beat Jeb Bush? We're on the brink of a GOP presidency + congress + supreme court with Ruth Bader Ginsburg possibly leaving her seat next term. So what do we get? We get hoards of whiny liberals who are threatening to check out if Bernie Sanders isn't the nominee. This is 1972 and 2000 all over again. The GOP are going to be united to unseat the current (to their minds) very liberal regime. As I see it, we're facing these options:
1) get behind Hillary Clinton to have, at the very least, a democrat in office who is not a climate change denier and who will appoint a liberal judge to the SCOTUS.
2) keep dividing liberals, doing the GOP's work for them, in faint and impossible hopes of getting Bernie Sanders the nominee.
3) should Bernie Sanders get the nomination a few months to change America's mind of the word "socialism" - good luck with that.
4) on the rate chance Sanders DOES get elected, none of his programs have any chance of succeeding against a GOP congress. Progressives become disappointment when their desired choice fails at turning water into wine.
The only way to unseat the current ruling class of the 1% is with a bloody revolution. Democrats do not have the stones for such a thing. Clinton it is. Please do not mess this one up. We can't afford another Y2K.
1) get behind Hillary Clinton to have, at the very least, a democrat in office who is not a climate change denier and who will appoint a liberal judge to the SCOTUS.
2) keep dividing liberals, doing the GOP's work for them, in faint and impossible hopes of getting Bernie Sanders the nominee.
3) should Bernie Sanders get the nomination a few months to change America's mind of the word "socialism" - good luck with that.
4) on the rate chance Sanders DOES get elected, none of his programs have any chance of succeeding against a GOP congress. Progressives become disappointment when their desired choice fails at turning water into wine.
The only way to unseat the current ruling class of the 1% is with a bloody revolution. Democrats do not have the stones for such a thing. Clinton it is. Please do not mess this one up. We can't afford another Y2K.
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How do you know that if Sanders is looking more and more like the Democratic nominee that it will not cause a groundswell of Americans to run for Congress in 2016 to clean house?
The truth is that the entire House can be changed in 2016 and a third of the Senate if the American people decided that is the direction they want the country to go.
Maybe by the beginning of 2016 enough Americans will be thinking hard about a Medicare for All healthcare system and they will realize the only way to get it is to vote in Sanders ALONG with a Congress to back him up.
"If the people will lead, then the politicians will follow."
And if the politicians do NOT want to follow, then the PEOPLE will have to fight to become the politicians to take over those Congressional seats.
The truth is that the entire House can be changed in 2016 and a third of the Senate if the American people decided that is the direction they want the country to go.
Maybe by the beginning of 2016 enough Americans will be thinking hard about a Medicare for All healthcare system and they will realize the only way to get it is to vote in Sanders ALONG with a Congress to back him up.
"If the people will lead, then the politicians will follow."
And if the politicians do NOT want to follow, then the PEOPLE will have to fight to become the politicians to take over those Congressional seats.
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As I read the comments here, I'm astounded by the number of readers who find a brilliant woman "incompetent", who find a woman who has committed her life to working for the betterment of all, greedy, grasping, and dishonest. The writers of these comments do not know this woman, but stand back and sling mud as though she murdered their mothers. If people have something to say, they should say it, but cheap shots, just too easy.
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How 'bout those cattle futures in Arkansas? How "bout those hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches? What difference at this point does it make? After all it was just four Americans dead and she still hasn't disclosed everything that was going on.
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Two words for your consideration: Clinton Foundation. Do some research and then let us know what you think of Hillary.
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While undeniably intelligent (how, exactly, does one earn the "brilliant" moniker?) it should be obvious that mere intelligence alone does not make one competent in every field of endeavor. Very bright people can make very, very bad decisions. Nor does intelligence equate with morals or ethical behavior (other than to grant the presumption that they should have - and did - know better, but consciously choose to act otherwise).
While neither I nor most of the commenters in here personally know Mrs. Clinton - and you do not say whether or not you actually do, either, though I assume you are merely an ardent admirer - her decades of conduct is open for us all to see and evaluate as we see fit. Knowing her or not does not remove the prerogative of the electorate to assess her, fairly or not, as history may determine. Pointing to actual conduct is not "sling[ing] mud" - it's simply acknowledging reality.
While neither I nor most of the commenters in here personally know Mrs. Clinton - and you do not say whether or not you actually do, either, though I assume you are merely an ardent admirer - her decades of conduct is open for us all to see and evaluate as we see fit. Knowing her or not does not remove the prerogative of the electorate to assess her, fairly or not, as history may determine. Pointing to actual conduct is not "sling[ing] mud" - it's simply acknowledging reality.
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As Hillary Clinton continues to remake herself, it makes one wonder if the Democrats needs to seriously consider someone else. It is rather scary, that Donald Trump is the most preferred GOP candidate. Hillary Clinton could actually lose to Donald Trump, because of celebrity recognition. Yes, the US voter is naive enough to play the election like "Celebrity Apprentice". They are doing that right now, in GOP preferred polls.
A ticket of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is sounding more appealing each day. That may be enough to combat the now 15 Republican seeking office. Out of that 15, Jeb Bush is the most reasonable stand out, the best of the worse one might say.
American politics has declined to that no reasonably, intelligent person would choose to run. If they do, they are wrecked by the special interests, PACs and the like. Leaving the election to people like Ted Crizz or a Donald Trump. In a way, the current GOP crowd makes Sarah Palin look somewhat sane. Need I say more?
Ms. Clinton has a great deal of "reintroducing" to do. To me it is like voting for 4 - 8 years more of the Clinton, George W. Bush or Obama administration. That is business as usual; more for the oligarchs, more for Wall Street, more war and more decline fro 99% of America. The GOP alternative, makes Ms. Clinton much better. That is the better of two evils.
A ticket of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren is sounding more appealing each day. That may be enough to combat the now 15 Republican seeking office. Out of that 15, Jeb Bush is the most reasonable stand out, the best of the worse one might say.
American politics has declined to that no reasonably, intelligent person would choose to run. If they do, they are wrecked by the special interests, PACs and the like. Leaving the election to people like Ted Crizz or a Donald Trump. In a way, the current GOP crowd makes Sarah Palin look somewhat sane. Need I say more?
Ms. Clinton has a great deal of "reintroducing" to do. To me it is like voting for 4 - 8 years more of the Clinton, George W. Bush or Obama administration. That is business as usual; more for the oligarchs, more for Wall Street, more war and more decline fro 99% of America. The GOP alternative, makes Ms. Clinton much better. That is the better of two evils.
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How many times does Elizabeth Warren have to say it?
She's not running.
She's not running.
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The objections to Hilary's personal characteristics are valid, but far far more important is her voting record. Her record reflects her political interests and priorities. It spurs us to explore her motivations. Coupled with a list of her donors, available on opensecrets.org, what comes into view is clearly a person who has sold out to Wall Street. Ignore the tepid personality, ignore even her gender. What is important is understanding her intentions and plans for a possible presidency, and how they lie squarely with our oligarchic status quo.
Bernie Sanders, as quirky and avuncular as he comes across, also suffers from an image problem. But unlike Hilary he does not suffer from a substance and transparency problem. Look at his voting record and list of donors, and it is clear: he is a committed and trustworthy progressive.
Competence on the international stage is everyone's big hangup with Bernie. But it is a mirage. Look at past presidents; it's clear Sanders could rise to the occasion. Age is an issue. But again: FDR, e.g., performed very well. Presidents have staffs for a reason.
Media outlets are obsessed with image. Voters need to focus to substance and honesty. Does this person have the capacities necessary to be president? Is this person going to act in my interests and those of the country as a whole? On both counts, President Obama's reality fell far short of his image.
Bernie Sanders is the inverse, which is why he is igniting the campaign trail.
Bernie Sanders, as quirky and avuncular as he comes across, also suffers from an image problem. But unlike Hilary he does not suffer from a substance and transparency problem. Look at his voting record and list of donors, and it is clear: he is a committed and trustworthy progressive.
Competence on the international stage is everyone's big hangup with Bernie. But it is a mirage. Look at past presidents; it's clear Sanders could rise to the occasion. Age is an issue. But again: FDR, e.g., performed very well. Presidents have staffs for a reason.
Media outlets are obsessed with image. Voters need to focus to substance and honesty. Does this person have the capacities necessary to be president? Is this person going to act in my interests and those of the country as a whole? On both counts, President Obama's reality fell far short of his image.
Bernie Sanders is the inverse, which is why he is igniting the campaign trail.
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An enjoyable read. One doesn't envy a candidate for President! And the readers who imagine a Bernie Sanders presidency: can you picture the attacks on a 73 year-old socialist's campaign by the billionaires that'll fund whoever runs on the Republican side? An amazing lack of realism among the commentators on this! Who do you want to pick the next Supreme Court justice, Hillary or Jeb or Marco or Ted? It IS important, as we saw in recent SCOTUS decisions.
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Running for President of the United States is more than merely using vague promises, platitudes, and generalities about all of the key issues. It also has a lot to do with presentation. By that I mean what would Hillary Clinton look like being the president of our country. Every time I see her on television or in print media, my first impression is that she has none of the visuals that communicates presidential qualities; she reminds me of an older senior in the supermarket on the weekly senior's discount days just aimlessly pushing her cart in the middle of every aisle, indistinguishable from all of other people whose prime as past.
On a more substantive issue, it appears that she thinks that she will glide into the office of president on name popularity and legacy of her husband. She had yet to offer a compelling reason for her being a good candidate for president, probably because one does not exist.
On a more substantive issue, it appears that she thinks that she will glide into the office of president on name popularity and legacy of her husband. She had yet to offer a compelling reason for her being a good candidate for president, probably because one does not exist.
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For all of you who have the notion that Bill Clinton will be Hillary's "First Gentleman" in the White House, sitting just down the hall in his office making plans for this trip or that trip to bring good-will to the downtrodden of the world and that he will be joining her for intimate dinners in the evening to discuss the events of the day and decisions she will need to be making, think again.
He told Queen Latifah on her show that if Hillary becomes president he will NOT be residing at The White House, but he will live in Chappaqua and will continue to run The Clinton Foundation with Chelsea and he will continue his golf games and speech making and galavanting.
No First Gentleman he.
Instead, Huma Abedin will be moving into The White House to be Hillary's confidante. I read the other day that plans are already in the works for Huma to actually have a bedroom right next to Hillary's!
What of Huma's young baby and her husband? Will Anthony Weiner (aka Carlos Danger) and their son also be living in The White House or will Huma take infrequent treks to Brooklyn to "visit" her husband and son?
It appears as though all the candidates running for president are traipsing around the country with their spouses, except for Hillary.
Some will say this is a "non-issue", but I do not believe the American people are ready for a woman as president whose husband lives in another state where the office Michelle Obama now occupies remains "vacant" for eight years!
He told Queen Latifah on her show that if Hillary becomes president he will NOT be residing at The White House, but he will live in Chappaqua and will continue to run The Clinton Foundation with Chelsea and he will continue his golf games and speech making and galavanting.
No First Gentleman he.
Instead, Huma Abedin will be moving into The White House to be Hillary's confidante. I read the other day that plans are already in the works for Huma to actually have a bedroom right next to Hillary's!
What of Huma's young baby and her husband? Will Anthony Weiner (aka Carlos Danger) and their son also be living in The White House or will Huma take infrequent treks to Brooklyn to "visit" her husband and son?
It appears as though all the candidates running for president are traipsing around the country with their spouses, except for Hillary.
Some will say this is a "non-issue", but I do not believe the American people are ready for a woman as president whose husband lives in another state where the office Michelle Obama now occupies remains "vacant" for eight years!
Warm and fuzzy Hillary? Not buying it. She lost me with her promise of executive orders on immigration, anyway.
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Re Hillary driving around: does she even have a valid driver's license? Having not driven herself for what is probably a couple of decades she might have been comitting a crime if she didn't have a valid license.
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Committing a crime? Well, it won't be the first time.
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Never been a fan of HRC
But when she effected a southern accent when addressing a group in SC in June that was just too too much.
DISINGENUOUS is one way too characterize her, no matter how many times she retreads the same old same old and all her $$ connections she is just the same.
But when she effected a southern accent when addressing a group in SC in June that was just too too much.
DISINGENUOUS is one way too characterize her, no matter how many times she retreads the same old same old and all her $$ connections she is just the same.
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I was fortunate to be in a small crowd of State Department employees and Peace Corps Volunteers in Rabat, Morocco, to greet Hillary Clinton during her visit in 2011. She shook hands with many in the crowd and posed for a picture with the Embassy children, during which she remarked that she would love to have a grandchild, quickly followed by "But don't tell my daughter I said that". It was a very human moment. I found her personable, statesman-like, warm, and intelligent. Too bad more people aren't willing to see her in that light. The real Hillary will make a fine President.
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If that is all it takes to get your respect it is no wonder criminals now hold so many high political offices in America. What has she or her husband done but lie, cheat, deal drugs and steal? Fortunate you say? My god what in the heck has happened to this Republic.
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I can't get enough of this overbaked, lackluster candidate.
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What about hoping for a campaign that really grapples with the issues and causes people to take a long-needed look at where this country as a whole is headed?
I would hope the NYTimes would support such a campaign with skilled, lucid journalism. Please feature articles that further our understanding of how the candidates' platforms compare. Remember that old word, "platforms"? It means where the candidates stand. That's what we need to know, so we can compare them.
It's early yet! Who knows what will happen? It's not a horse race or a Hollywood popularity contest (..... though, sadly, very sadly, it might be something that can be bought and sold.....). In any case, it's an election that matters in terms of the soul of our country. Really matters. Let's hear about issues, platforms, ideas. Please.
I would hope the NYTimes would support such a campaign with skilled, lucid journalism. Please feature articles that further our understanding of how the candidates' platforms compare. Remember that old word, "platforms"? It means where the candidates stand. That's what we need to know, so we can compare them.
It's early yet! Who knows what will happen? It's not a horse race or a Hollywood popularity contest (..... though, sadly, very sadly, it might be something that can be bought and sold.....). In any case, it's an election that matters in terms of the soul of our country. Really matters. Let's hear about issues, platforms, ideas. Please.
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Hillary's propensity to be a different person for different audiences has been with her for decades it seems."I’ve gone through three and a half metamorphoses and am beginning to feel as though there is a smorgasbord of personalities spread before me,’’ Rodham wrote in April 1967. ‘‘So far, I’ve used alienated academic, involved pseudo-hippie, educational and social reformer and one-half of withdrawn simplicity.’’
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I have known Hillary--not well--since 1974 when Bill was Attorney General in Arkansas and she was supporting the family working at the Rose law firm. (When Bill got elected, the governor's salary was $5000.) I was always extremely impressed and appreciative of her efforts in a state that did not always want to do the right thing. Sadly, the media decided somehow the Clintons were sleazy beginning with the irresponsible Whitewater stories in this paper and have kept it up for years. That's why people don't trust her. I contend that both Clintons set a remarkable standard for honest public service and an objective review of the history would support that claim. The great sorrow is that the Democratic Party did not pick her eight years ago. She would have done a much better job of dealing with Republicans than the present incumbent who has never caught on.
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The media decided????? How about lying under oath and being disbarred (Bill). How about being fired from a watergate committee in the 1970's for lying (Hilary). How about you wake up and read the reality that they are both liars and bums?
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15 people went to prison over Whitewater. The only reason the Clintons escaped was because they made a deal to pardon the witnesses against them if they did not testify. They did not testify, and on his last day, Clinton gave the pardon.
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Just don't be close to the family politically and disagee - you might disappear
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John Kerry for President! would eliminate the Clinton fatigue which these events are so carefully staged to alleviate, and give the Democratic party an accomplished world-class statesman as their presidential candidate.
Kerry would also neutralize Republican efforts to reflexly block another Obama achievement. His tenure in the White House would ensure Iran's compliance with the agreement and give the U.S. a leader with proven world-class stature.
He's proven his strength, vision and leadership, even with a broken leg! We've seen the respect he commands on the world stage.
Kerry would also neutralize Republican efforts to reflexly block another Obama achievement. His tenure in the White House would ensure Iran's compliance with the agreement and give the U.S. a leader with proven world-class stature.
He's proven his strength, vision and leadership, even with a broken leg! We've seen the respect he commands on the world stage.
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Why no mention of her time on the staff of the Watergate investigation?
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Good point and important. That is where she learned how to coach her husband through the impeachment process.
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Sorry to say I couldn't read the whole article but for those of you who did did the writer ask about why 30+ women have accused Bill of various forms of sexual assault? Why did her foundation take a huge contribution from a Russian company that got the rights to 20% of the uranium supplies of the US? Why did she delete all those e-mails. Who ordered the Waco and Ruby Ridge massacres and why was not one person sent to jail in all those murders? Why did they have to refile their foundtion tax returns after it was discovered they forgot important details that would land anyone else in prison. Why did she not allow help to come to the people in Bengazi and were they running weapons there to the enemies of America? I don't care if she had moose stew or has met a moose. Just get some answers to the important questions.
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I believe Mr. Leibovich is correct to indicate Mrs. Clinton faces an inordinate number of hecklers. Some ire unfortunately is fueled by the fact she is a woman. That said, the enthusiasm gap should be no mystery. Politico had a great piece on the "Goldman Sachs primary" between Mr. Bush and Mrs Clinton. Her pledges of Wall Street reform and concern for regular people ring hollow in part because her career history of major donors includes the very people she would supposedly rein in. Many people, myself included, are turned away by aspects of her record, on war and trade for example. I realize Mrs. Clinton is the current favorite, but I am concerned that the Times seems to have run many favorable pieces lacking legitimate criticisms of her (there is no shortage of absurd criticisms of her), while quickly dismissing just what is fueling enthusiasm for rivals like Mr. Sanders.
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The problem for the Clinton campaign is "whom the voters think they already know" but the reality of the candidate the voters DO actually know - disingenuous, grasping, hypocritical, and all the rest. Not that it's unique for campaigns to try to convince voters that their candidate is different from their past or history (for a local example, look at Cuomo) but please, stop trying to sell Hillary for something she's not.
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I repeat, "Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the MOST QUALIFIED PERSON to be the next President of the United States. She is smarter, and knows more about politics and the world, than any other person running for the office and most people in the world. We should have listened to her when she spoke of a vast right-wing conspiracy because it has nearly destroyed OUR democracy. Ms. Rodham Clinton was a respected attorney when she became First Lady. According to Wikipedia, "She cofounded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977, she became the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation in 1978, and became the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979. The National Law Journal twice listed her as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America." She was on the front-line when there was a "conservative" backlash against women having equal rights in America. She kept her head and went on to serve as Secretary of State to President Obama after he won the presidency that she sought - because she LOVES America. And now she is doing us the honor of running for President again and has shown all of us what it is to be a tough, dedicated woman in America. Every woman who is registered to vote in America MUST vote for her. If you aren't registered get registered to vote for her. She is simply the Best!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
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I am a woman and HRC is the very last person I would ever vote for.
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I'm aching for Hillary Clinton to get me saying "I want her for our next President." but she keeps coming across as the stale, tired, same ol' same ol'. And personally, I don't care if she's a wonderful person behind the scenes or the Dragon Lady; I want to see a candidate with a passionate desire to make America better for those who are not part of the 1%. That's what got me off my duff and go door to door for the election of Barack Obama. Until her campaigning stops being a total yawn-fest, she won't have this Liberal voter ready to pull the lever in her favor--and that goes for the general election as well as the primary.
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"She is true to herself...." Ah, yes she is. Being 68 years of age is working to her advantage. She knows what matters most, and appears to be confidently and comfortably following a "higher calling". I support Hillary Clinton, and we would be fortunate to have her as our President.
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What matters most to Hillary is Hillary.
It's scary to think of another Clinton or Bush in the White House. Sigh.
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She is by far the most qualified candidate on either side. Gosh, I wish I trusted her. It would make voting so much easier.
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Trust is far more important than titles. Buying a Senate seat in the most gullible state in the country is not a qualification.
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Why not examine her lack of achievement during her time in the Senate and the results of her tenure as Secretary of State?
Our relationships with Libya, Syria, and Russia have never been stronger - right?
Our relationships with Libya, Syria, and Russia have never been stronger - right?
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Ask youself: What do Senators Sanders and McGovern potentially have in common?
Exactly.
When I was in my twenties, I was all in for McGovern. Now, at 68, I can still remember what happened.
So, even though I love Sanders' ideas, and in fact am to his left, all you folks who fill this blog with Sander's support, roll this off your tongue: President Bush III, by a landslide.
Put on your big boy/girl pants and get real. Look at the politics of the country you live in.
Exactly.
When I was in my twenties, I was all in for McGovern. Now, at 68, I can still remember what happened.
So, even though I love Sanders' ideas, and in fact am to his left, all you folks who fill this blog with Sander's support, roll this off your tongue: President Bush III, by a landslide.
Put on your big boy/girl pants and get real. Look at the politics of the country you live in.
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How depressing. You may be right. In 2008, I worked for another impossible campaign--the Kucinich campaign. He was the one candidate who espoused my values: pro-environment, pro gay rights (Hillary wasn't at the time), anti-war (he wanted to impeach Bush and Cheney for war crimes), single payer healthcare. So, up until a few months ago, I was trying steadfastly to wear my big girl pants as you so condescendingly put it, and just say, "I'm not getting involved this time. I'm giving up. I'll vote for Hillary in November." And then I listened to Bernie and realized, those pants don't fit. I need to support him if he is willing to take it upon himself to run. It would be wrong not to. And so I support Bernie, in hope against hope that at best he will go all the way, and at worst will provide a platform for my ideas and push HRC in that direction.
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It's painful to watch her dehumanizing herself yet again.
I am conservative and disagree with most liberal positions, but why not represent your side with someone who is at least authentic and proud of what he believes in, like Bernie Sanders. Even if we lose I would rather lose to someone that at least honestly represents something, rather than the latest opinion poll.
I am conservative and disagree with most liberal positions, but why not represent your side with someone who is at least authentic and proud of what he believes in, like Bernie Sanders. Even if we lose I would rather lose to someone that at least honestly represents something, rather than the latest opinion poll.
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Funny that only 15% of Democrats support Sanders in all national polls and yet nearly all the comments for this piece are negative, most claiming to be Sanders supporters. Bernie Sanders himself respects Clinton and has set a positive tone, yet his so-called online "supporters" consistently spout GOP rhetoric about Clinton and sound straight out of FOX News... which leads me to believe that many are Republicans in "Go Bernie!" clothing.
In any case, I enjoyed the piece. The media's relationship with Hillary Clinton reminds me of Lennie from Steinbeck's "Of Mice And Men" - they can't stop their impulse to pet and squeeze the mousey that they are so fascinated by... regardless of the consequences.
In any case, I enjoyed the piece. The media's relationship with Hillary Clinton reminds me of Lennie from Steinbeck's "Of Mice And Men" - they can't stop their impulse to pet and squeeze the mousey that they are so fascinated by... regardless of the consequences.
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I'll bet you my feel the berm shirt that I'm no republican plant!
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("the Bern," even, as much as I may support creative garden fixtures)
The New York Times seems to have no interest in covering a democratic primary. The paper should be embarrassed by this fluffy "political" coverage. Bruni writes today about Scott Walker's ability to ignore tough questions -- I guess those must be the ones asked by the foreign press.
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A candidate re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-introducing themself? I read this and couldn't tell whether it was about Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton.
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Well, she and Richard Nixon do have a lot in common.
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Hillary has the type of experience I would love our next POTUS to possess but I simply do not believe a word she says about anything. I don't trust her. Trust has to be earned and she has not done anything to earn it, in my opinion.
I have donated to the Bernie Sanders campaign and fully intend on voting for him. When he speaks I believe him. I trust him - I really do. He is a straight forward man with decades of experience in government. He does not flip flop on issues. He cares about his fellow man and woman and truly wants to help us, the middle and lower class citizens.
My mind is made up. Bernie gets my vote.
I have donated to the Bernie Sanders campaign and fully intend on voting for him. When he speaks I believe him. I trust him - I really do. He is a straight forward man with decades of experience in government. He does not flip flop on issues. He cares about his fellow man and woman and truly wants to help us, the middle and lower class citizens.
My mind is made up. Bernie gets my vote.
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Watch, read, listen and chuckle as this gaggle of Clintonoids scramble to bouy up a tattered brand that has definitely seen better days. Poor Mark has to be a refugee from the marketing group at Coca-Cola that attempted to foist off the "New Coke' as THE Real Thing. That didn't end well, and neither will this one.
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My goodness - haven't we all endured enough of Mrs. Clinton?
Like many of us, I'd be grateful if she would simply retire quietly to Westchester.
Like many of us, I'd be grateful if she would simply retire quietly to Westchester.
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Yawn. More like Re-Re-Re-Reinventing Hillary Clinton. In the end, though, she's still a stalwart, robotic tool of big-money interests and the status quo. Enough already.
Go Bernie Sanders!
Go Bernie Sanders!
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Another love note to Hillary from the NYT. Odd how its articles on Trump aren't so "perceptive about the true Donald lurking within."
Btw, the Blumenthal emails were bad news: yet another hit on her credibility.
Btw, the Blumenthal emails were bad news: yet another hit on her credibility.
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Well written and extremely interesting piece. But, being a religious and God fearing man I remaind convinced Hillary has no soul.
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The more comments one hears about God, Religion and Fear in this political mix, the more one is inclined to read the writings of Ingersoll, the Great Agnostic. Regardless of gender, to be religious without a heart is sad. To be religious without a soul is tragic.
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Is this The Onion?
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I guess I'm very grateful the article was as well balanced as this, and focused less on policy and more on just who Hillary is.
Who is she? Well we all know her lifestory and how in one sense, like Scott Walker, she's been running for President (more or less) since high school and then college. The fact she attended a women's college (I did too) means she was nurtured by faculty and fellow students to believe there was nothing a woman couldn't do.
Like the author, I've heard stories that Clinton is far more personable in private than when she has her guard up in public. I find that very believable and when I read she is adored by staff, I also believe that.
But like many, I think she has to guard against seeming condescending: Leibovich didn't get into that aspect of how she comes across. And the best way to do that, as he sort of points out, is to make the public more personal with stories, say, of her mother and what that signifies in her feelings about "fighting" for people. If she can just link it more to policies that could have benefited her mother, and weave more into the fact that she's had some experience with people as hard up as they (her audiences), she would come across as more likeable.
Hill will never be Bill. Nor should she. She should just try to let the public know who the real Hillary is, without artifice or design. And above all, she should stop letting "handlers" try to rope her off--since seems as instinctive as Bill if you let her be.
Who is she? Well we all know her lifestory and how in one sense, like Scott Walker, she's been running for President (more or less) since high school and then college. The fact she attended a women's college (I did too) means she was nurtured by faculty and fellow students to believe there was nothing a woman couldn't do.
Like the author, I've heard stories that Clinton is far more personable in private than when she has her guard up in public. I find that very believable and when I read she is adored by staff, I also believe that.
But like many, I think she has to guard against seeming condescending: Leibovich didn't get into that aspect of how she comes across. And the best way to do that, as he sort of points out, is to make the public more personal with stories, say, of her mother and what that signifies in her feelings about "fighting" for people. If she can just link it more to policies that could have benefited her mother, and weave more into the fact that she's had some experience with people as hard up as they (her audiences), she would come across as more likeable.
Hill will never be Bill. Nor should she. She should just try to let the public know who the real Hillary is, without artifice or design. And above all, she should stop letting "handlers" try to rope her off--since seems as instinctive as Bill if you let her be.
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Christine,
Would you buy a used car from her?
Would you buy a used car from her?
*Less* policy? Please tell me you're joking!
if the election were decided on policy, we'd have President Sanders, and the country would be a much better place.
If the election were decided on policy, not one of the candidates in the Republican clown car would dare show his face in public.
By focusing on personality and the horse race, the press deprives the American public of the information it needs to make an informed choice. It becomes an election for class president rather than president of the United States.
That being said, the wooden and politically tone deaf Mrs. Clinton shows every evidence of preparing to lose the election to a Republican. Look at how the capable, principled Al Gore almost lost to the patently incompetent George W. Bush. A candidate has to be able to connect to the voters.
And a Republican president would be a disaster. Two or three more Scalias? Kiss abortion rights and just about everything else goodbye.
For the good of the country, Mrs. Clinton should drop out of the race.
if the election were decided on policy, we'd have President Sanders, and the country would be a much better place.
If the election were decided on policy, not one of the candidates in the Republican clown car would dare show his face in public.
By focusing on personality and the horse race, the press deprives the American public of the information it needs to make an informed choice. It becomes an election for class president rather than president of the United States.
That being said, the wooden and politically tone deaf Mrs. Clinton shows every evidence of preparing to lose the election to a Republican. Look at how the capable, principled Al Gore almost lost to the patently incompetent George W. Bush. A candidate has to be able to connect to the voters.
And a Republican president would be a disaster. Two or three more Scalias? Kiss abortion rights and just about everything else goodbye.
For the good of the country, Mrs. Clinton should drop out of the race.
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Her record defines her as someone I will not vote for, as I perceive little difference between her and Jeb! except gender. Both are similar, and we get the same from them, including court appointments.
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I do so wish that the New York Times would give 1/100th the coverage to Bernie Sanders that it does to Hillary Clinton. Most often they - and others - only report on Bernie in relation to Hillary Clinton. That is, of course, in keeping with the Clintons' view of the world, with them at the center, but it is not in America's interest, nor the interest of free and fair elections. I think the most revealing item in this report was from the old correspondence Hillary wrote to her friend in which she described trying out/using up various personae. She is still doing that, even as evidenced by her "listening tours" to put finger to the wind to see what her "messages" should contain now to garner more money and more "support." Her many and varied pantsuits are the garb of a chameleon in a much more significant sense than fashion choices. She may have good reason to be embattled and embittered, I don't know, but she doesn't have the consistently long, straightforward and transparent positions and qualities of Bernie Sanders. The New York Times needs to stop always situating Bernie as an "also ran" when he's clearly the up and comer, and well deserved at that! She lacks “soul”, i.e. legitimacy, open-ness, honesty, and Bernie has it.
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The most interesting part was the moose.
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What we are seeing is a candidate who is seething at the American public for seeing through her and in typical Clinton fashion blames us.
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I was hoping for a in depth article about why the public needs to be re, re ,re introduced to someone who's been in the public eye for 30 years.
Instead we get a " Gosh, she's so deep" article.
...sigh...
Instead we get a " Gosh, she's so deep" article.
...sigh...
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Many readers rightly complain about this puff piece and the Times biased coverage of this candidate. But that precisely helps explain who this candidate is: a pliable, cooperative subordinate of special interests that are promoting her because she will do what she is told. ;And the same special interests purchase the media. Media coverage and special interest influence are near a perfect correlate. The public may otherwise assume an intelligent candidate, but in reality has no expertise in any particular subject and is utterly reliant on advice and instruction--therefore the best investment. And the list of past behavior and acts is the insurance policy: utterly exposed to blackmail. A fail safe bet. Perfect obedience. Everything everyone here despises is everything the promoters love.
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Mrs. Clinton has hardly "resided in the center" of scandals, she has caused them. From Whitewater to the Clinton Foundation, her lack of ethics and honesty have been behind the events and their subsequent unraveling. She is not a 'scarred' victim that her campaign wishes to project, but a guilty perpetrator, struggling to hide the scope and breadth of her corruption.
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Richard Nixon without the charm.
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"It's the same old wine in a new bottle." You can see her straining to be the "New Hillary." I'm not buying any of it.
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David Frum had it about right (unusual for him) when he wrote
"Hillary Clinton wouldn't lead a fight for motherhood and apple pie if motherhood and apple pie were polling below 70 percent."
"Hillary Clinton wouldn't lead a fight for motherhood and apple pie if motherhood and apple pie were polling below 70 percent."
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re- re- re- alright.
she re-fashions her policy points based on her staff's perceived re-shift in voter sentiment (too bad she can't re-fashion a life back in Arkansas or those gawd awful pant suits).
ps - her latest attribution of income inequality to the GOP is truly the 'pot calling the kettle black'. how much did her and Billy Boy make last year? (~$120 MM) where is she vacationing (Hamptons)
she re-fashions her policy points based on her staff's perceived re-shift in voter sentiment (too bad she can't re-fashion a life back in Arkansas or those gawd awful pant suits).
ps - her latest attribution of income inequality to the GOP is truly the 'pot calling the kettle black'. how much did her and Billy Boy make last year? (~$120 MM) where is she vacationing (Hamptons)
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Yes, but remember, she was flat broke when they left the White House. Upkeep on homes in Westchester and the Hamptons isn't cheap.
Hillary Rodham-that-was announced herself to be arrogant, selfish and mean-spirited when she strode into the White House, fired the entire Travel Office, claimed the right to a "co-presidency" and lied, weaseled and stamped her feet over her health care reform initiative. She was slapped down hard, shoved into the First Lady corner, professionally and personally humiliated and none of it was enough to extinguish her drive for power.
She carpetbagged her way into the Senate, used her husband's leverage as a fundraiser to wangle the Secretary of State job and has made millions primarily as an influence peddler.
She's unpleasant, controlling, shifty, elitist,entitled, arrogant and obsessively power-hungry. But here's the thing: She has done a good job at whatever Fate has thrown her way, even though it hasn't been what she really wanted. She's effective and tenacious and smart, in marked contrast to the passel of vicious buffoons that make up the Republican field.
The crucial issue for the next president will be the likelihood of at least 2 Supreme Court nominations. The Republicans have given us Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. The Democrats chose Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor.
I may not like Clinton, but I loathe Scalia and his ilk, and their influence goes far beyond a four or eight year presidential term.
No contest. Democrats in 2016, and if that means Hillary Clinton, so be it.
She carpetbagged her way into the Senate, used her husband's leverage as a fundraiser to wangle the Secretary of State job and has made millions primarily as an influence peddler.
She's unpleasant, controlling, shifty, elitist,entitled, arrogant and obsessively power-hungry. But here's the thing: She has done a good job at whatever Fate has thrown her way, even though it hasn't been what she really wanted. She's effective and tenacious and smart, in marked contrast to the passel of vicious buffoons that make up the Republican field.
The crucial issue for the next president will be the likelihood of at least 2 Supreme Court nominations. The Republicans have given us Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. The Democrats chose Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan and Sotomayor.
I may not like Clinton, but I loathe Scalia and his ilk, and their influence goes far beyond a four or eight year presidential term.
No contest. Democrats in 2016, and if that means Hillary Clinton, so be it.
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Yes. Thank you for saving me the trouble of writing something that wouldn't come close to your analysis. It's that darn court that will make me hold my nose and vote for her.
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Bernie Sanders = 50 state loss.
Well, MAYBE a 49 state loss. He MIGHT win Vermont and its 4 electoral votes.
Well, MAYBE a 49 state loss. He MIGHT win Vermont and its 4 electoral votes.
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Correction: Three electoral college votes for Vermont.
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MIGHT is correct. McGovern couldn't win his home state. Why would Sanders win his?
I'm trying to think of just one major - positive - accomplishment that Ms. Clinton achieved while a U.S. Senator, or while SOS, which qualifies her for the presidency.
Anyone?
(Silence)
Anyone?
(Silence)
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Joe Citizen15
Perhaps while you are waiting for a reply, a brief review of Mrs. Clinton's achievements and accomplishments can be found on your computer web silently.
Perhaps while you are waiting for a reply, a brief review of Mrs. Clinton's achievements and accomplishments can be found on your computer web silently.
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Only one comment:
It's the Supreme Court, stupid.
(Two to three likely vacancies for next President to fill)
I know who I'm voting for.
It's the Supreme Court, stupid.
(Two to three likely vacancies for next President to fill)
I know who I'm voting for.
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The Supreme Court argument doesn't cut it. Hillary's capable of appointing losers too.
And, possibly when Scalia was born the gods broke the mold.
And, possibly when Scalia was born the gods broke the mold.
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Sorry, but that "it's the Supreme Court nominees!" line will not sway me.
Hillary Clinton will never be elected POTUS, Supreme Court nominees or no Supreme Court nominees.
Fool me once.....
Hillary Clinton will never be elected POTUS, Supreme Court nominees or no Supreme Court nominees.
Fool me once.....
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Voting for in the general? In the primary? And does this mean you are voting for Bernie for the primary (you want liberal appointees), Hilary in the primary (you want centrist appointees) or a republican in the general (you want lunatic conservative appointees)? I don't understand this comment or what it's meant to convey at all.
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The Bernie Sanders crowd is out in force for this article's comments section. The far left won't capitulate on this until November 9, 2015, I'm afraid. Get a grip, ultra-liberals. You folks are as out-of-touch as Mayor de Blasio's administration is concerning effective political action.
You may not like Governor Cuomo up there, but the man has realized what many of you have not, which is that the centrist Democrat playbook is the only one which will fly in today's center-right America. Bill Clinton and his people designed it in the 1990s, and it is still in heavy usage today, by all the Democrats who know anything about running for national office. Yup, ALL of them.
You can dream all you want about Bernie Sanders becoming President, but the closest the man is ever going to get to being in the Oval Office is being on a White House tour. This is the guy who says stupid stuff like this: "“I’m not a liberal. Never have been. I’m a progressive who mostly focuses on the working and middle class.”"
Huh? What?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/upshot/class-or-ideology-my-conversati...
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I'm under no illusion that Sanders will become president. But i'll vote for him anyway. And 3rd party should he lose the primary. And if i'm not alone on that, as i doubt i will be, you Dems have some things to meditate on. Especially if Clinton should lose the general.
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rtj in MA: Certainly, you should vote your conscience, as we all should, but keep in mind, politics is the art of the possible. Working toward a pie-in-the-sky ideal can defeat working towards what actually can be accomplished. As others have mentioned, simply the need to appoint more liberal Supreme court justices for the upcoming vacancies should be enough to convince most Democrats to vote for Ms. Clinton. Will she be a groundbreaking, or revolutionary president? Only in that she will be our first female executive in that office. She is more centrist than either her husband, Bill, is, or President Obama, but not by much.
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A very odd unlikable person, except to the Grubers. And even a few of those are seeing the light.
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Warm and cuddly yet unaccountable Hillary with ethics questions still lingering over her head. The choice is yours voter.
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Why anyone would vote for a woman who has accomplished exactly nothing as a carpet bagging Senator from New York or as travel crazy Secretary of State is beyond comprehension. Clinton's political views change with the latest opinion polls. She refuses to answer any significant questions from a fawning press corps, and she and the Clinton Foundation are as corrupt as the day is long. And just how did she make $100,000 in a single year with a $1000 investment in cattle futures? Can anyone answer that one?
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Bernie Sanders for Sec. of Health and Human Services!
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Sorry. "Re-branding" only works when you can prove that your product is really new. Given her age, and with her history, it is impossible for us to swallow the current round of dissimulations. (Besides, to be honest, she reminds me too much of Richard Nixon.
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David Reisman would have said that she is the ultimate "other-directed" politician. My Mother would have said she is like an onion.
If you find a core, it will be today's core. Tomorrow?
If you find a core, it will be today's core. Tomorrow?
Hillary has said, “Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"
(From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris)
Hillary Congenital Clinton Lies:
She falsely claimed about her emails, “I’ve never had a subpoena. Again, let's take a deep breath here.”
She “removed” a boatload of stuff from the White House and called it a clerical error, returning everything.
She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel staff….after she told them to do so.
She lied about her missing billing records which “showed up” on their own.
She was “always” a Yankees Ball team fan when she was running for NY senator.
She lied as a member of the house judiciary committee.
She lied about flying into Bosnia under sniper fire but admitted to the falsehood later on.
She misrepresented her record opposing the Iraq war—when she actually voted for it.
She lied about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary.
She lied about her role in passing Family and Medical Leave Act.
She lied about the “uninsured” woman who died after childbirth.
Like we asked of Nixon;
“Would you buy a used car from that woman?"
Democrats and Independents - do not be fooled by most of these comments. It is no secret that "conservatives" are thrilled with Senator Bernie Sander's Presidential bid and are doing everything they can to stop Hillary Rodham Clinton. They pay people to post negative comments to every article about her and Senator Sanders. It won't work. The vast majority of people in the United States have seen what governing by the ALEC/Koch brothers/Wall street/u.s. chamber of commerce/nra/radical religious right/major media corporate conglomerate "conservative male minority" has done to our once fine country. It is time for reasonable women and men to equally share power in the United States of America, and the world, if we are ever to have a well-balanced society. Hillary Rodham Clinton is smarter and knows more about national/world politics than most every living human being. I am honored that she has decided to be the next President of the United States of America.
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Yes, just as Democrats are breaking out the champagne over Trump.
Btw, I am an Independent woman who would set her hair on fire and put it out with a shovel before she'd vote for a Clinton again.
Btw, I am an Independent woman who would set her hair on fire and put it out with a shovel before she'd vote for a Clinton again.
By all means, please go ahead and vote for Clinton. On the other hand, please don't assume that the commentary shown here and in response to other articles is fabricated. This former Democrat/current unaffiliated voter is entitled to voice criticism of the slanted media coverage and express skepicism over Clinton's chance of winning. We also will state our many concerns about her qualifications for the position of POTUS and whether she is genuinely concerned about middle class citizens and their plight.
In the long run, if 2016 is a redux of her disastrous 2008 run, Clinton will do more to damage herself and implode prior to the Convention.
In the long run, if 2016 is a redux of her disastrous 2008 run, Clinton will do more to damage herself and implode prior to the Convention.
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While you are all hyperventilating about Clinton's corruption, lying, coziness with Wall St, etc etc etc, there are issues like:
The Supreme Court
Every single social issue which Republicans will take back to the Stone Age
Reproductive rights
Sane tax policies
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Vote for whoever is not Republican. I wish it didn't have to be that way, but until that party has a serious candidate, not to mention a serious platform which is not medieval, I vote for the person who will not put more conservative reactionary men on the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court
Every single social issue which Republicans will take back to the Stone Age
Reproductive rights
Sane tax policies
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Vote for whoever is not Republican. I wish it didn't have to be that way, but until that party has a serious candidate, not to mention a serious platform which is not medieval, I vote for the person who will not put more conservative reactionary men on the Supreme Court.
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Obama had both houses and did nothing with tax reform so part of your theory is meaningless, HIllary will do nothing in that regard as she is beholden to big biz and has been most of her life in politics, look to see who her top donors are, that's all I need to know to NOT vote for her, and the SCOTUS, look at what has happened? Another of your theory's struck down, don't play that rhetoric it won't fly. Don't let party affiliation or appointment fool you, the skeptics have been proven wrong in quite a few cases.
Hillary= Big Business never forget that, she is part of the 1% and she intends to keep it that way and for her BFF's on Wall Street too. Those are truths you can bank (no pun intended) on.
Hillary= Big Business never forget that, she is part of the 1% and she intends to keep it that way and for her BFF's on Wall Street too. Those are truths you can bank (no pun intended) on.
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Potential SC appointees should never be the defining litmus test for a presidential candidate. Justices are judges, not politicians. How do you explain Reagan Appointed Justice Kennedy's critical role as the deciding swing vote on so many issues, just as Reagan appointed Justice O'Connor was in past years.
We have set the bar too low for choosing suitable candidates. That explains the sorry morass that comprises our Congress. The sad fact is that Hillary is being financed by the same Big $$ from the banks and corporations. To expect her to go against the interests of those donors to do right by the average American is delusional.
We don't have to support an unacceptable candidate because s/he is a Democrat. It's not a question of perfection. It's a question of who will support middle class interests. If US voters choose to vote in their own interests, all the campaign money flowing from corporate interests will be for naught.
We have set the bar too low for choosing suitable candidates. That explains the sorry morass that comprises our Congress. The sad fact is that Hillary is being financed by the same Big $$ from the banks and corporations. To expect her to go against the interests of those donors to do right by the average American is delusional.
We don't have to support an unacceptable candidate because s/he is a Democrat. It's not a question of perfection. It's a question of who will support middle class interests. If US voters choose to vote in their own interests, all the campaign money flowing from corporate interests will be for naught.
Yes, Hillary voted for the Iraq war.
Hillary supported NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT, and supports Obama's TPP, all of which export American jobs to the 3rd world.
Hillary supported the repeal of Glass - Steagall.
Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street, which means she has sold out Main Street.
Hillary supported NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT, and supports Obama's TPP, all of which export American jobs to the 3rd world.
Hillary supported the repeal of Glass - Steagall.
Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street, which means she has sold out Main Street.
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This article painstakingly recounts little details like Hillary's comments about clunky shoes, fax machines, or moose sightings. These details are supposed to "reveal" Hillary to us and make us like her. I got the same feeling reading this that I had listening to the beginning of her economic speech at the New School (I couldn't listen too much--I was too bored). There is something "wrong" with the way she communicates, the words she uses, and the cadence of her voice. She speaks slowly, which comes off a bit as if she is speaking down to us; she speaks in "anecdotes" (there is always the story about the working mother with 3 jobs, etc.), which is part of her speaking down to us; she speaks in sort of Hallmark card kind of reality, rather than in terms of hard core economic realities that ring true. I could care less about moose sightings. I do care about bringing down health premiums (or better yet, single payer healthcare), reducing carbon emissions, giving some interest to savings accounts...
I am trying to put my finger on what is missing in Hillary. I guess, as a progressive and adamant supporter of Bernie Sanders, I respond to words that are connected to reality as I also perceive it, and spoken with passion and conviction. Clinton reminds me of watching a corporate speech where language makes no sense and everything is predictable. This is pretty fundamental because it indicates an entire worldview.
I am trying to put my finger on what is missing in Hillary. I guess, as a progressive and adamant supporter of Bernie Sanders, I respond to words that are connected to reality as I also perceive it, and spoken with passion and conviction. Clinton reminds me of watching a corporate speech where language makes no sense and everything is predictable. This is pretty fundamental because it indicates an entire worldview.
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I love Sanders, but, if he runs, a vote for Sanders is a vote for the Republicans to win.
The Democrats can't afford to defeat themselves again.
The Democrats can't afford to defeat themselves again.
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The harder Clinton tries to re-imagine and re-present herself, the more obvious it becomes that what you see is what you get - a coldly calculating politician who will say and do anything to get what she wants. Moose today, a la Sarah Palin, tomorrow gay marriage, day after that she's a concerned grandmother. The only consistent strand in Hillary's politics is Hillary's own advantage. Moose tracks ice cream, anyone?
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I think you need to read about Ms. Clinton's service as Senator to New York. In 2000 Ms. Clinton won election by 55% to 43%. New Yorkers' support for Ms. Clinton grew steadily to a groundswell. In 2006 she won re-election 67% to 31%, taking 58 of New York's 62 counties. Why? Because when a New Yorker called with a concern, her staff and she responded substantively. She is of the people and for the people. Any calculating she's doing is with the intent of continuing the same.
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Another article of absolutely no substance to me as a reader. I am far more concerned with the directions our Democratic Presidential candidates intend to take this country. Mrs. Clinton's "chatty friends." Mrs. Clinton's high-end coat. Mrs. Clinton-Kim Kardashian. Mrs. Clinton-ice cream. In other NYT articles I have heard her called, "feisty," not sure if "spunky" has been dragged out by the NYT yet, probably has. Nothing in this article reads as relatable to me. Mrs. Clinton's patterned record of global war support is pertinent. Her deep, up close and personal relationships with corporate magnates is pertinent. Mrs. Clinton's weak attempts to align herself as a 21st Century activist while charging 200,000 dollar speaking fees is definitely pertinent to me, as I can be sure that neither is she interested in campaign donations from people such as myself, nor is she speaking to those who organize and attend grass roots meetings, although she will be, has been, attending a few pre-authorized meetings with a few handpicked participants for branding purposes,her definition of activism, I guess, but not mine. Historically, we brand herd animals in this country. I wont be voting for a cow or sheep, nor will I be voting for Mrs. Clinton, in very small part because of articles like this one from the NYT, which reads like the editors pulled an antiquated rag from the 1950s cute girl list and attempted to feed it to us in the 21st Century. Bernie Sanders 2016.
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After 8-years of disaster and lies, one can only hope a Constitution based candidate like Rand Paul or Ted Cruz will have a chance. I hope that someday my congressman Justin Amash will run. He is the best of the bunch, but a relative unknown.
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Sorry but Ted Cruz is out of his mind, his views on evolution and women's rights are right out of the Dark Ages and we don't want to go back to that way of thinking.
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My 401k has recovered, my home has increased in value, I no longer have to worry about going bankrupt if I get sick or injured. I'll take that kind of disaster any day over the great recession and two wars G.W. gave us.
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I'm a true conservative, a member of the Elizabeth Warren wing of politics. I wish EW had decided to run, but unlike Obama she doesn't have the fire in the belly or the ability to put together the kind of organization that beat HC in 2008. Bernie Sanders in his seventies is a breath of fresh air but we all know that he won't be the Democratic nominee. HC is deeply flawed but infinitely preferable to the zealots, including Bush, who've declared as Republicans - false conservatives, all of them, beholden to dollars and little interested in conservatism (or conservation, for that matter). Clinton made it clear that she won't re-institute Glass-Steagall; she's a Wall Street babe, no doubt about that, and therefore hardly a true conservative. Trouble is, unless EW has a change of heart, there's nobody better on offer. Vote Hillary 2016.
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It's unbelievable how many "Poor Hillary" comments I see here. "Hillary of Arc" will get the votes of those who cast their ballots driven by the same factors by which they choose their toothpaste and dish detergents.....a tribute to marketers everywhere.
At least Obama had a perfect record of no achievement when he first campaigned. Hillary's is one of mis-cheivement.
At least Obama had a perfect record of no achievement when he first campaigned. Hillary's is one of mis-cheivement.
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You lost me on your last sentence, not much of a record I'm affraid, 150+ "just present" votes. Nothing impressive about that.
Is the lassoed Press also part of her re-re-re-invention or it is just a faux-pass?
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I don't care how many shades of lipstick you put on that pig, she is still a narcissistic horrible person that feels entitled to lie, flout the law and cares only about what others can do to advance her career.
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Nobody wants another Clinton or Bush. Just stop it. If you are age 52 or under, there has always been a Bush or Clinton involved in national politics. Just stop it! We need more than the 2 parties which are controlled by the bankers anyway.
I would not vote for Sanders, but I respect him 1000 times more than Hillary or Jeb!
I would not vote for Sanders, but I respect him 1000 times more than Hillary or Jeb!
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"Nobody wants another Clinton or Bush." Agreed. The thought of a presidential race between Bush III v Clinton II is appalling.
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I will vote for Hillary in 2016 just as I did in 2008-as a write-in candidate for president. She will astonish all of us. I love how these articles bring out the Hillary-haters....I think for some of us, we are not showing our enthusiasm for her candidacy because we want to defer the pain we feel when she is being attacked so differently than the other candidates. The comments I am reading are helping me to create the skin of a rhino, which apparently I am going to need before I put the Hillary for President bumper sticker on my Prius.
Hillary, I will be ready for you at summer's end, fully dressed in my rhino skin.
Hillary, I will be ready for you at summer's end, fully dressed in my rhino skin.
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Indeed. All the negativity here is driving me to take off my Elizabeth Warren for President button and get completely on the bandwagon for Ms. Clinton. Keep the vitriol flowing, RWers and sexists, and as with Mr. Obama, you will drive a lot of us to fill Ms. Clinton's campaign coffers with record amounts.
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A rhino for a DINO. Makes perfect Pleistocene sense if you're into throwbacks.
Personally, my money's on the mensch.
Personally, my money's on the mensch.
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All we need to know about Hillary is how she stated it was a rightwing conspiracy when she and Bill tried to hide the sexual abuse of a 21 intern at the White House. Lying is second nature to Hillary
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Howard Magee writes: "All we need to know about Hillary is how she stated it was a rightwing conspiracy when she and Bill tried to hide the sexual abuse of a 21 intern at the White House."
Oh please, stop with the "sexually abused a child" meme. Lewinsky was 23, not 21. When I was 23 I had a husband, a mortgage, and a full-time job. Having sex with a staffer was sleazy, but a) it's not sexual abuse of a child and b) Hillary isn't responsible for what her husband did.
Finally, yes, there WAS a right wing conspiracy to discredit Clinton by any means possible. The right wingers couldn't beat him through the political process, so they went after him on personal behavior. And yeah, he gave them plenty of ammo--but Clinton did nothing that Newt Gingrich hadn't done multiple times.
Hate Clinton all you want, but it's time to retire this "abused a child" meme. Save it for folks like Dennis Hastert, who actually DID abuse high school students...
Oh please, stop with the "sexually abused a child" meme. Lewinsky was 23, not 21. When I was 23 I had a husband, a mortgage, and a full-time job. Having sex with a staffer was sleazy, but a) it's not sexual abuse of a child and b) Hillary isn't responsible for what her husband did.
Finally, yes, there WAS a right wing conspiracy to discredit Clinton by any means possible. The right wingers couldn't beat him through the political process, so they went after him on personal behavior. And yeah, he gave them plenty of ammo--but Clinton did nothing that Newt Gingrich hadn't done multiple times.
Hate Clinton all you want, but it's time to retire this "abused a child" meme. Save it for folks like Dennis Hastert, who actually DID abuse high school students...
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I have never been less excited about a Presidential election All I see is worse and less worse.
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Pray tell why did Mark Leibovich not ask Clinton questions instead of chatting about moose?
"Mrs. Clinton if there is nothing to hide why not end the controversy by handing over the email server to an independent third party to exam it?"
"Mrs. Clinton HUD is suing Westchester County for not building affordable housing. The country took the federal funds but does want not lower income people in Westchester. As a Westchester resident what is your position and what have you done to advance it?"
"Mrs. Clinton last time you ran for president you told a grand canyon size lie about Bosnia snipers. When caught you lied about lying. How did you confuse a little girl with a bouquet of flowers for snipers? Do you have other hallucinations ? Were or are you on drugs / medication? How can we be sure you will not start a war based on a similar figment of your imagination?"
"Mrs. Clinton if there is nothing to hide why not end the controversy by handing over the email server to an independent third party to exam it?"
"Mrs. Clinton HUD is suing Westchester County for not building affordable housing. The country took the federal funds but does want not lower income people in Westchester. As a Westchester resident what is your position and what have you done to advance it?"
"Mrs. Clinton last time you ran for president you told a grand canyon size lie about Bosnia snipers. When caught you lied about lying. How did you confuse a little girl with a bouquet of flowers for snipers? Do you have other hallucinations ? Were or are you on drugs / medication? How can we be sure you will not start a war based on a similar figment of your imagination?"
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You want hard questions asked of Clinton? Not from The Times, this is just another fluff piece to make her more likable, not working for me. Don't expect anyone in the MSM to ask any questions of substance or to actually pin her down for any type of definitive answer, she is the natural Democratic choice and no one will get her to actually commit to an actual answer on any given subject.
She is corrupt, artificial, secretive, calculating and wants the presidency a bit too much.
Why can't democrats do better? Is she really better than any republican? Like Cuomo was better than any republican in NY?
Very sad.
Why can't democrats do better? Is she really better than any republican? Like Cuomo was better than any republican in NY?
Very sad.
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I believe Hillary is for real and honest. Hillary has been a committed progressive her entire life. One of her first jobs out of law school was as an aide to the Congressional Committee investigating Watergate. Her heart and effort has always been in the right place as a committed liberal and Democrat. I believe people are projecting their own unhappiness with their own lives onto her, as so often happens with public figures (ie. first people loved George W. Bush, and then hated him at the end (cf. Peggy Noonan)). Even now, many liberals are "disappointed" with Obama. Really? He's improved health care in America, got same sex marriage approved by the S. Ct., made a historic arms control deal with Iran, avoided any wars and major (repeat major) terrorist incidents on U.S. soil, appointed two superb (and female) Justices to the S. Ct., and the list goes on.). WAKE UP people, and see who's really on your side.
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Ms. Clinton was a Republican until her late college years. I'd say Wellesley College helped her to come to Jesus. (Elizabeth Warren likewise was a Republican for much of her adult life. Elizabeth Dole was a Democrat for many years of her adult life and likewise switched.) Else I agree with Brainfelt's observations.
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I don't think she's the she devil people make her out to be but let's be honest, she voted for the Iraq war and it's entirely possible that as President she'll get us into another war, possibly to prove how tough she is.
She's beholden to Wall Street and while she won't trample working people underfoot the way Republicans do, she probably won't do much to improve things either.
She's beholden to Wall Street and while she won't trample working people underfoot the way Republicans do, she probably won't do much to improve things either.
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She doesn't trample them, she ropes them.
IMO, the first measure of a candidate is essentially: will this candidate always do what's in the best interest of the citizens of this country.
Any candidate that has to work this hard to APPEAR likeable and trust-worthy should be cause for concern.
Any candidate that has to work this hard to APPEAR likeable and trust-worthy should be cause for concern.
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One of the pictures is captioned: "A grass-roots organizing event at a private home in Glen, N.H., on July 3."
The house features a deck that could hold 200+ people and a back yard that resembles the Grand Canyon. This, for Hillary, is "grassroots" and these are the people she will cater to once elected, the > $250K/yr crowd.
If the rest of us choose - against all rationality - to believe her populism, and if we can get all misty-eyed at the thought of a woman president, Hillary is a shoe-in.
The house features a deck that could hold 200+ people and a back yard that resembles the Grand Canyon. This, for Hillary, is "grassroots" and these are the people she will cater to once elected, the > $250K/yr crowd.
If the rest of us choose - against all rationality - to believe her populism, and if we can get all misty-eyed at the thought of a woman president, Hillary is a shoe-in.
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It's not getting misty eyed at the thought of a woman president.
It's getting terrified at the thought of the alternative: austerity, theocracy, warmongering,and an obsession with homophobia and female sexuality.
It's getting terrified at the thought of the alternative: austerity, theocracy, warmongering,and an obsession with homophobia and female sexuality.
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It is always interesting to read this kind of story by a reporter who has covered Hillary for many years. It is like they are thinking of how to make the story interesting and always recounting how they know Hillary. They often make it about they own views rather than just talking about what Hillary says and letting the reader decide what to think. And this reporter does mention the media scrum that is always following her and how it often is about what they want - that is the news business. Briana Keihlar of CNN got nasty after Hillary gave her an interview because she couldn't get Hillary to bite in response to her snarky questions. Often the news media is no longer about reporting news but with Hillary it is about reporting how she reacts to them. Why should the public care. With social media today you can get your message out around the media and that is a good thing for the public but clearly frustrating for the media.
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I would rather Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders run and win. However, former Senator and Secretary of state Clinton has run gangbusters over anyone when it comes to experience and coming to the aid of the people, from her time as Senator of the great state of New York to becoming the most traveled Secretary of State in history. She earns every dollar she makes, and more importantly and unlike so many, the respect and then some for the offices she has held. I will never forget her seminal vision on health care in the early '90s. No man would have spoke out on behalf of our beloved President Obama as she did, after he beat her in the primaries. It is to her credit as a great human. I expect Mr. Obama likewise will show his great humanity and be out in front for her. Ms. Clinton will have my vote and support. My only concern is that once again her many positive attributes will be judged as negative, because they come from a woman. If forced to bet, I expect Bush will beat her sheerly due to sexism. But I am not betting on it. I can count those I consider brilliant in public life on three fingers. Ms. Clinton is brilliant. She might very well pull this out of a hat and become President.
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None of these candidates is ever, ever coming to your house for a barbecue. They are not your friends. Get over it. And yet, the need to somehow "know them" persists among voters. I don't care who's likable. I don't care who's folksy; in fact, please do not pander to me with folksiness. I care about global peace, an improving economy, and opportunities for the next generation. Who is most likely to lead the nation in that direction? The first female U.S. President. Period.
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Hillary Clinton has had to endure daily abuse for over thirty years at a level most of us could not imagine. The result is that she is phenomenally tough and resilient.
She knows all the domestic issues, she knows all the international issues, she understands how politics works, she personally knows all the power people: there has never been a candidate better prepared to be president of the United States. She is not a political extremist; she is palatable to all.
Some people don't find her likeable? Boo-hoo. We need someone to run the country.
She knows all the domestic issues, she knows all the international issues, she understands how politics works, she personally knows all the power people: there has never been a candidate better prepared to be president of the United States. She is not a political extremist; she is palatable to all.
Some people don't find her likeable? Boo-hoo. We need someone to run the country.
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Madeline Conant: Do you not care how someone runs the country? Do you not care why and to where someone runs the country? She is not the only one who "knows all the domestic issues....all the international issues....", even if that were true of her. She is not even the only woman qualified to be President, if that is your primary criterion. She took prominence only because of her husband and because of her husband - and her - we all got subjected to "W" and Cheney. As to knowing "all the power people", that may be true and that is because the "power people" give her enormous amounts of money. Why do you think that is? Do you think "power people" want to relinquish one iota of "their power"? And do you care who those "power people" are or how they got their power and what their relationship to the Clintons is? By the way, it is beyond ludicrous to make the claim that she is "palatable to all." Your silly and condescending "Boo Hoo" to those who don't "find her likeable" does not make your points well. It is not necessarily she whom many don't like but what she has stood for, what she has actually done - and not done - what she has voted for, what she has lied about, hidden, covered up, etc. It is how she has treated the women who have been associated with her husband's infidelities, as if he is the victim. I do not want the Clintons back in office. They will always be in our faces, apparently, but please not in office. Go Bernie!
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Heck, you could even say that the Democrat presidential candidates sound un-American. . . . In fact, many illegal aliens (not relying on government benefits) appear to be more in tune to the ideals and values of the constitutional republic.
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If you're genuine and honest, you don't have to re-re-re-reintroduce yourself.
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OK, I get it now,
Hillary Clinton: "The less worse candidate!"
Bonus: She's a human!
Hillary Clinton: "The less worse candidate!"
Bonus: She's a human!
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well, that's a bit much. Maybe "human-like"
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What a boring article. This was less about Clinton and more about the editor's relationship with her. I mean, you could at least try to write from a neutral point of view, rather than a fawning fan rushing to her defense at every opportunity.
How many reintroductions does it take to realize that the common denominator is not the method of introduction, but the candidate?
Apparently more than three.
How many reintroductions does it take to realize that the common denominator is not the method of introduction, but the candidate?
Apparently more than three.
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Reading the comments, it appears that Ms. Clinton has done the seemingly impossible--she's brought America's right and left together.
They both despise her.
They both despise her.
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Mrs. Clinton is stilted and lacks originality. On top of that her negative ratings---critical in Presidential elections, is high. The Democratic Party has no one better to offer as the nation's next leader? Her ascension reflects poorly on the Democrats. When primary voters were given the chance to vote for Mr. Obama----Mrs. Clinton was routed in 11 straight primaries. Why do folks expect that she is a better candidate than before? A good Republican campaign will defeat her. It is time to move beyond the Clintons.
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If you check into the statistics for the Democratic primary in 2008 you will find that HRC and Obama were tied and if the votes in Michigan were counted HRC was ahead. The Democratic establishment voted Obama in.
I wouldn't call this a rout.
I wouldn't call this a rout.
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Peter-- never forget those 18 million cracks in that glass ceiling in 2008... Hillary's background and long experience in public service are exemplary. There IS no better candidate running, and she will NOT be defeated by that truly lame clown car of Republicans. The GOP has certainly done nothing to deserve anybody's respect or vote in the last decade and counting.
We know her too well you cant remake her into a trustworthy Young champion of the people. Not with her ethics problem and her family's misuse of their foundation.
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Anybody but Hillary. How can she be trusted to do the right thing?
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Hillary and stale bread have the same problem.
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Both better as toast.
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I would feed my dog stale bread. I wouldn't feed my dog Hillary!. That's animal abuse.
While I would prefer someone more liberal ie; Sanders, I do not think he can win a GENERAL election....Especially when Democrats are trying to win the WH for the 3rd consecutive election - not an easy feat...
Not only can HRC win a general election, she is easily more qualified and CAPABLE than ANY of the awful GOPers....I've never voted for a Republican in any election and never will...
If you need the #1 reason to vote for Clinton next November - The. Supreme. Court.
Not only can HRC win a general election, she is easily more qualified and CAPABLE than ANY of the awful GOPers....I've never voted for a Republican in any election and never will...
If you need the #1 reason to vote for Clinton next November - The. Supreme. Court.
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Hillary will be a great President. She will also be a mediocre candidate. We have seen her through the press and electronic media's eye; she appears to be a policy wonk, not a public relations mouthpiece.
I think she is smart playing "Rope a Dope" with the press. There is no need for her to prove her understanding of foreign or domestic policy. Let her present her ideas when and as she wants. The debates will give us all a time to see her breath taking knowledge of important issues.
I think she is smart playing "Rope a Dope" with the press. There is no need for her to prove her understanding of foreign or domestic policy. Let her present her ideas when and as she wants. The debates will give us all a time to see her breath taking knowledge of important issues.
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion on her being a 'great President'. I think you significantly over-estimate her competence, knowledge and understanding of both domestic and foreign policy as her appointment to SecState was a political appeasement and her senate election a political sham.
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The problem with that approach is: what ideas? She have to wait for a poll in order to pronounce herself on any topic. And at the time of the polls numbers are out the issue may be already over.
Is this article really about Hillary Clinton? Given the frequency with which Leibovich refers to himself in the first person, it reads more like it's about him and his perception of Hillary Clinton's "re-re-re-reintroduction".
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Hillary is too much like Bush and Obama for me--their programs are too conservative, too corporate. We need to cut way back on the militarism and a good dose of socialism to counteract the extreme corporatism in America today.
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Clinton's a pathological liar... you can reintroduce her as many times as you want. It doesn't change the fact that she has ZERO credibility, cannot be trusted and will not be elected president.
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She's also 67 years ooooold, going on 69 at election time. Historic to say the least, and geriatric. Only Reagan achieved such a feat.
I knew the Gipper, and she's no Gipper.
I knew the Gipper, and she's no Gipper.
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I look forward to the re-re-re-re reintroduction where I'm sure it will be revealed that Hillary considered joining an order of nuns washing the feet of lepers in Bangladesh...
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Or how she was a "Goldwater Girl" for Barry Goldwater, considered the most right-wing, hawkish Republican of that era, at a time when many young Americans of her generation were wising up. Or how she was a young lawyer working on the Watergate case and her supervisor wanted her fired for her unethical duplicitous actions. Or how she has tried to cast the women with whom her husband has had infidelities as if they are the "bad guys" to her husband's "good guy." Or the vote for invading Iraq or the votes for the Patriot Act. Or the acceptance of big money from countries/leaders with horrendous treatment of women, while simultaneously accepting undeserved praise for all she "does for women." One speech in China many years ago and she's a champion for women?? Give us a break! Elizabeth Warren is a champion for women. Bernie Sanders is a champion for women. Why? Because they'd work for women - and men - to have better lives, not empty speeches from a woman and her husband who adore the spotlight, power and money obtained only from public life!
This election cycle like previous ones are full of reruns and retreads on both sides. There should be a rule or law where if you have ran for the office of president and lost...that you are barred from future elections. For some of these candidates it seems like running for office is a full time [recurring] job.
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Excellent idea- for both sides of the aisle.
Is the NYT writing articles to inform its readership or to merely titillate? Please let's have some substance! Yes Mrs Clinton has visibility (aided by the like of today's nonsense), but there are other candidates who might have, if informing about important policy and record issues, was the NYT's goal. Mrs Clinton has an alarming (to me) preipheral relationship with being truthful, as have almost all of the GOP candidates. Readers, I think, would like to know about the other Democratic candidates, so that they will not be forced into a hold-your-nose-while-you-vote position in the next Presidential election to prevent more colossal social damage by the GOP.
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Dear Hillary, it's time to show us your unscripted, zest for life, fun-loving self. We have seen your serious side. We already know you are highly experienced, multidimensional, qualified, and probably even destined to become our first woman president. We also know that you've endured much in your life (we've witnessed some of it). And despite it all, you've remained balanced and sane, which is more than most of us could claim. Also, consider the popularity of reality TV; Bernie Sanders; and temporarily Donald Trump which seem to indicate we've a hunger for openness honesty and sincerity (even if it's at time off beam). We long for a person to person connection, or at least what feels like one, in our globalizing impersonal world. A world that more and more sees us relating through our devices and hard drives than anymore with one other personally. Also, think about this. Whether your words and responses are controlled and carefully chosen or free, spontaneous, and from the heart, someone will toss stones. That's the unfortunate nature of our running-for-office beast. Thus while demonstrating your acumen on the stump also let your hair down and show us your free from constraints, fun loving self. We don't know that part and would like to. Take a chance; you've nothing to lose.
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Is fun-loving a qualification for the job? I personally don't care about her zest for life. I care how intelligent, capable, and qualified she is to run the country.
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Great post, bkay. Imagine Mrs. Clinton going Donald (or Charlie Sheen) and just . . . letting fly. I'm not a supporter, by any means, but how epic would that be?
Hey I've got a great idea to move America forward, let's nominate the most corrupt, divisive, polarizing woman on the planet largely responsible for every single foreign policy disaster we now face, who would walk into oval office absolutely despised by half the country.
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Some of my original comment is missing. I wrote: When I read comments such as B Da Truth's, I wonder if Faux News and some staunch Republicans scan articles about Ms. Clinton and then post the nastiest comments they can imagine. This comment is hyperbolic.
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Why do you feel the need to blame Fox News or staunch republicans for that comment, when will you and others like you realize that not all libs and/or dems love her and everything the party does? You are in denial and it's frustrating to read comments such as yours. Not every registered dem/indie tows the party line some even think outside the box and have brains and can think for ourselves without help from the party bosses.
In 2008 the young voters spoke, given the choice between the Clinton machine and a charismatic young senator from Illinois, they took a chance and pumped energy into the senators campaign, making all the difference. Eight years ago the young voters were not just saying yes to Obama, they were saying no to Clinton, it is starting to take on the same air as 2008, except of course instead of a young charismatic senator from Illinois, today it is a slightly older, slightly less charismatic senator from Vermont who is going to be the recipient of the young voters energy. I think Bernie has a good chance of stealing either Iowa or New Hampshire, and then like 2008, it is going to get interesting. I have to admit in 2008 when the wheels came off the Clinton machine, i enjoyed it, maybe it is wishful thinking on my part, but no more Clinton,s in the White House for me
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She should have hired Steven Spielberg as her campaign manager. After all he made ET to look like human and even likable. I understand the task to make Hillary appear likable maybe insurmountable even to Spielberg, let alone to make her appear human. But hey, give him a shot, you never know with Hollywood.
At the end of the day that's what Hillary campaign is about: to make people believe what is not there. Hollywood specialty.
At the end of the day that's what Hillary campaign is about: to make people believe what is not there. Hollywood specialty.
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That's what the Media's job is, to make Hillary seem likable and electable, as you can see from this article...
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10,000 word essay about nothing, -- sorry. HRC is a smorgasbord of greatness due to a lifetime of world stage preparedness for becoming the first woman President of the United States. Compared to the combine intellect of the GOP contenders she is the only choice due to her intrinsic goodness, public service awareness, political savvy and electability. Unfortunately, the GOP bent so far right that it will take a decade before they regain their senses and balance. HRC need only maintain her health, alertness and goodwill to become President. I think Mark Penn moved to China or maybe Havana or was it Savannah?.
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I will not be supporting Hillary Clinton, and nothing she could ever say, pledge, or provide in an oath with her own blood will change my mind. I am supporting Bernie Sanders.
However, I think her consultants are making a mistake by running her as a center-left candidate on economic issues because we all know she isn’t center-left, but a corporate center-right Democrat. By running Hillary as someone she isn’t, she confirms her worst political problem – “She’s not Authentic!.”
However, I think her consultants are making a mistake by running her as a center-left candidate on economic issues because we all know she isn’t center-left, but a corporate center-right Democrat. By running Hillary as someone she isn’t, she confirms her worst political problem – “She’s not Authentic!.”
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When Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders were in the Senate at the same time, they voted the same way 93 per cent of the time. They are liberal Democrats. Bernie is only slightly more liberal than Hillary, who is slightly more liberal than Barack Obama.
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Meg...Hillary has collected millions from giving 45 minute speeches to Wall Street dinner guests. I don't see Bernie doing much of that kind of activity. Get real. It really is "the economy stupid," and I won't be stupid enough to put another Clinton back in the White House.
If you have to keep re-re-re-branding something then theres a problem with the product. Hillary is way too flawed a candidate, with too much questionable baggage to be electable. Once the election gets past the primaries and becomes party vs party, Hillary will spend all her time fighting off questions and allegations about Benghazi, foreign donors to the Clinton fund, her lackluster performance as secretary of state, wall street connections and so on, it'll be ridiculous. She will never get to talk about her intentions as president, whatever those might be. And after 20 years or so in politics, we should have an idea. Her critics will probably be very successful in destroying her campaign by making her seem like a potential disaster in office. All they need to do is persuade the swing or independent voters, those who are not party affiliated but those who I think have the most impact in elections, that she would be a dangerous choice or more dangerous choice than any of the Republican options. The Times really needs to do more to support the other candidates, what about Webb? Or Sanders (who the Times seems to have decided as not a viable candidate) or any of the other possibilities. And the Democratic Party has to do better than this as well.
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Hillary needs to take a nuanced page out of Donald Trumps playbook. People love it that Trump is just himself, off the cuff, clear in his statements and not swayed by anyone. They know what he stands for and if they dont, they just have to ask - once. The content of his ideas aside, the country is fed up with politicians spoon fed by handlers and paid for by special interests. Off the cuff is NOT Hillarys strongest point (extreme british type understatement) but if she's going to succeed, that will make or break her. Hillary, whatever is out there, come clean now, you have enough time to get it behind you. You wont this time next year.
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Hillary Clinton is the second-to-last person I'd want as president. The first is any Republican. She'll probably prevail on that fact alone. She's so easy to vilify, and rightly so, but none of that will matter to the "I'm a woman and I vote" crowd.
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Excellent, vote solely because she is a women. What happens if 'Kaitlin' enters the race; it would turn the female voting block into schizophrenics. So fun.
I'm a woman and I read and think, thank you. It's not that Hillary is a woman, but that she's better than any Republican. All of those will take us back to the anti-science, anti-education, anti-womens health care rights stone age.
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I've listened to Clinton's New School Economic speech, and the O'Malley, Sanders, Chaffee and Web campaign launch speeches.
The only candidate I've heard who has ideas big enough to MEET the issues facing the country is Sen. Sanders. He also has a plan to pay for the progressive solutions he's advocating (Wall St transaction tax of .05 cents like the UK does, estimated to bring in $350 B per year, for Universal single payer health care, reinstating Estate Taxes for people earning more than 3.5 million (single) 7 million ( married ) to pay for infrastructure jobs program (set 13 million jobs) and transition to renewable energy (will create more jobs, improve national security, reduce climate change).
BIG OIL owns most of the candidates running, including Hillary. Only Sanders and O'Malley have signed the pledge not to accept funds from them.
And, Sanders is the ONLY candidate NOT accepting million dollar donations for a SUPER PAC .
They have the money, but Sanders has the solutions.
The only candidate I've heard who has ideas big enough to MEET the issues facing the country is Sen. Sanders. He also has a plan to pay for the progressive solutions he's advocating (Wall St transaction tax of .05 cents like the UK does, estimated to bring in $350 B per year, for Universal single payer health care, reinstating Estate Taxes for people earning more than 3.5 million (single) 7 million ( married ) to pay for infrastructure jobs program (set 13 million jobs) and transition to renewable energy (will create more jobs, improve national security, reduce climate change).
BIG OIL owns most of the candidates running, including Hillary. Only Sanders and O'Malley have signed the pledge not to accept funds from them.
And, Sanders is the ONLY candidate NOT accepting million dollar donations for a SUPER PAC .
They have the money, but Sanders has the solutions.
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I am glad you brought that up, because that is an important point to make clear to voters. Jill Stein too, she said she will not take funds from the fossil fuel industry. But I guess that is obvious, since she is running for the Green party nomination.
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Ohh...he will not take money from the fossil fuel industry...he does not have to. WWF and Greenpeace together have more money that the biggest oil transnational you can think of. And they use that money.
Sanders is in the pocket of AIPAC and Lockheed Martin. He's voted for nearly every war funding bill put in front of him.
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Trouble is, the special access underpinning this story didn't really yield much. I felt some human glow for about half its length, and then the sheer length began to be tiresome.
So I guess in that sense it reflects the Clinton candidacy: the prolonged sameness verging into staleness.
It was a very difficult decision for me in 2008 to vote for Obama over Clinton. I couldn't believe I wasn't behind the first viable woman to run for the Presidency. My vote for Obama, however, was in large part a rejection of dynasties. At this moment, my inclination is to vote for Sanders in the primary as a way to express my political views. Of course I'll come out to vote for Clinton as the nominee in the general election, but my vote is against Republican hate-mongering and backwardness and failed economic policies (tho I kinda have come to believe in trickle-down economics—I just don't like what's trickling down on me).
I think Clinton will make an OK president, and that a Republican would sink the country into a misery not witnessed since the Great Depression. The trouble with a two-term presidency is that an electable star to capture our attention needs to rocket out of nowhere. The Dems just have way too much nowhere.
But at least our candidates aren't piling out of a clown car.
My last hope is that Clinton comes up with a dynamic young veep to revitalize her campaign (not too early! the choices floated will give us a picture). I do have faith, mostly, in her competence to serve.
So I guess in that sense it reflects the Clinton candidacy: the prolonged sameness verging into staleness.
It was a very difficult decision for me in 2008 to vote for Obama over Clinton. I couldn't believe I wasn't behind the first viable woman to run for the Presidency. My vote for Obama, however, was in large part a rejection of dynasties. At this moment, my inclination is to vote for Sanders in the primary as a way to express my political views. Of course I'll come out to vote for Clinton as the nominee in the general election, but my vote is against Republican hate-mongering and backwardness and failed economic policies (tho I kinda have come to believe in trickle-down economics—I just don't like what's trickling down on me).
I think Clinton will make an OK president, and that a Republican would sink the country into a misery not witnessed since the Great Depression. The trouble with a two-term presidency is that an electable star to capture our attention needs to rocket out of nowhere. The Dems just have way too much nowhere.
But at least our candidates aren't piling out of a clown car.
My last hope is that Clinton comes up with a dynamic young veep to revitalize her campaign (not too early! the choices floated will give us a picture). I do have faith, mostly, in her competence to serve.
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I voted for Obama over Clinton too, and came to regret my choice. Now I don't want to vote for Clinton either. The country desperately needs someone like Sanders, someone who can get us out of the rut of jobs exportation to the third world that is costing us the American dream. That is not Hillary Clinton, who supports the same right-wing economic policies that caused this mess in the first place (and whose husband gave us NAFTA).
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If voting for women is most important, vote for Jill Stein, someone with a record of change.
"I think Clinton will make an OK president"
" I do have faith, mostly, in her competence to serve."
LOL -- it occurs to me that that's the problem in a nutshell, "OK" and "mostly."
Let's admit that she's a mediocre candidate and *not* accept the attempt to force her down our throats in a Soviet-style election.
" I do have faith, mostly, in her competence to serve."
LOL -- it occurs to me that that's the problem in a nutshell, "OK" and "mostly."
Let's admit that she's a mediocre candidate and *not* accept the attempt to force her down our throats in a Soviet-style election.
I have never really given Hillary much thought, but the NYT makes me think of her even less. Or should I say, even less of her.
If she does get the nomination, I'll be voting for another women, Jill Stein, the Green Party candiate.
If she does get the nomination, I'll be voting for another women, Jill Stein, the Green Party candiate.
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But seriously, how do you not gussy up a public figure who has had mud piled on her from the opposition for decades? When she was First Lady she was even publicly slurred by the matriarch of the royal Bush clan.
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I think I already know pretty much who Hilary is, I don't need yet another re-education from the NYT. If anything, the more times she tries to recast her image, the more it gets diluted.
Instead it would nice to hear some more about Bernie, or O'Malley; I would like some options this cycle other than another Bush vs Clinton run.
Instead it would nice to hear some more about Bernie, or O'Malley; I would like some options this cycle other than another Bush vs Clinton run.
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We might reach a strenuous point where one pinches himself wishing that the media coverage always stirring up the fabricated image of H.C and her relentless efforts to bound with grass-root electorate will 'in time due' erode, fade away in the distance.
Thus, give the change from this well-worn narrative and in turn give more room, widen the time segment by welcoming a fresher, lesser known batch of candidates? These are indeed many. However, within the current framework, they are doomed to remain sidelined on the outer fringes of the campaign trail because strong money-backing that translates into prime media coverage can't even compete with that of the democrat-seasoned-frontrunner, too big to fail from the very beginnings.
This isn't meant to diminish H.C credentials but to assess ways to reflect on the fatigue sensation insidiously creeping in and at least affecting a fraction of the readership, relentlessly having to follow down to every facet and minutiae of her epic campaign, otherwise staged down all the way...and perhaps somewhat struggling to maintain momentum.
Thus, give the change from this well-worn narrative and in turn give more room, widen the time segment by welcoming a fresher, lesser known batch of candidates? These are indeed many. However, within the current framework, they are doomed to remain sidelined on the outer fringes of the campaign trail because strong money-backing that translates into prime media coverage can't even compete with that of the democrat-seasoned-frontrunner, too big to fail from the very beginnings.
This isn't meant to diminish H.C credentials but to assess ways to reflect on the fatigue sensation insidiously creeping in and at least affecting a fraction of the readership, relentlessly having to follow down to every facet and minutiae of her epic campaign, otherwise staged down all the way...and perhaps somewhat struggling to maintain momentum.
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This story brought to you by a generous grant from the Bill & Hillary Clinton Foundation and through the generosity of the Russian Uranium Producers Consortium.
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If Clinton were male, there would be very little interest in her as a candidate for president----she keeps re-inventing herself------Inventing is the key----made up, not natural, artificial---that is her problem---she is a big Sales Campaign----we cannot know her because if we did she knows we would not vote for her.
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She will collapse of her own incompetence, even her army of power grubbing, unprincipled collectivist zealots who pass for a team will be chagrined and disappointed at the fat ladies failure. The only thing she has going for her is a media as fanatical as she is, and of course, as dumb, nothing, Nothing, else.
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Amazing that you perceive a brilliant woman as incompetent. You cite no specifics, just a broad brush dismissal of who she is. Who she really is, is this country's hope for the future. Competence and concern are the qualities she owns and communicates to those willing to listen. I don't think you, and those like you will listen, you haven't the objectivity to see the truth.
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I haven't been to any sort of campaign rally in years, but this is not the place for candidates to focus on substantive issues. Remember, you've got a mostly friendly audience. This is the time to introduce yourself. Hillary can talk about her mother's rough childhood and Rubio can talk about his parents fleeing Castro. The "town hall" is the place for debating the issues.
If you're complaining that the Times is not focusing on the issues, I can't agree. Remember that candidates have pretty flexible positions on the issues at this stage of the process. For some of the uneducated and inarticulate candidates (Walker) getting an answer is like nailing jellyfish to the wall. Of course, in his case you could call one of the Kochs.
If you're complaining that the Times is not focusing on the issues, I can't agree. Remember that candidates have pretty flexible positions on the issues at this stage of the process. For some of the uneducated and inarticulate candidates (Walker) getting an answer is like nailing jellyfish to the wall. Of course, in his case you could call one of the Kochs.
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"Remember that candidates have pretty flexible positions on the issues at this stage of the process." BR that is EXACTLY what is wrong!!! If our candidates are so ready to change their positions due to anything that will win them votes, than they are no servants of this country. If they will alter their personal perspective for votes, than they will do it for money. Either way they prostitute themselves, have no self respect and they are not worthy to lead this country.
Actually, most of the candidates have positions and records a mile long. You just think they don't because the Times reports on nothing but the horse race. And if they altered their positions? That's important too, because it tells us something about them. Sanders, for example, has a very clear platform reminiscent of New Deal liberalism. Clinton, on the other hand, supports right wing causes like TPP and then when they become unpopular triangulates and changes her mind. So of the two, who is more likely to fight for us in Washington?
@ Bathsheba Robie "If you're complaining that the Times is not focusing on the issues, I can't agree. Remember that candidates have pretty flexible positions on the issues at this stage of the process."
And isn't that just exactly the problem?
Bernie Sanders' positions are long-standing, back to the early 60's, when he
co-chaired SNCC (a civil rights group) at the University of Chicago.
How many different versions of Hillary have we seen in that time?
Goldwater Girl, calling Jennifer Flowers (the woman her husband had an affair with, and who almost derailed his first Democratic candidacy) a liar, redux with Monica Lewinsky, against gay marriage before she was for it, for TPP before she was against it. And on and on.
And isn't that just exactly the problem?
Bernie Sanders' positions are long-standing, back to the early 60's, when he
co-chaired SNCC (a civil rights group) at the University of Chicago.
How many different versions of Hillary have we seen in that time?
Goldwater Girl, calling Jennifer Flowers (the woman her husband had an affair with, and who almost derailed his first Democratic candidacy) a liar, redux with Monica Lewinsky, against gay marriage before she was for it, for TPP before she was against it. And on and on.
I am perplexed by the title of this piece: it acknowledges that the candidate has been over-covered, so what is the point of yet another feature of that size? And after reading the first three or four paragraphs, I felt no need to go any further: this is not what I am looking for.
I suspect that the NY Times wants Clinton, not Bernie Sanders, to win the nomination, hence the daily pounding and rehashing, and only perfunctory coverage of Bernie Sanders. This is wrong.
This country needs change and Clinton, with the support she is getting from Wall Street and the Democratic party's establishment, is unable to effect meaningful change. If the record is not enough to convince you, just listen to her repeated platitudes and equivocations.
And to those who argue that we need to support her because Bernie Sanders has no chance of getting elected, I am saying: cui bono?
The defenders of the status quo, that's who.
I suspect that the NY Times wants Clinton, not Bernie Sanders, to win the nomination, hence the daily pounding and rehashing, and only perfunctory coverage of Bernie Sanders. This is wrong.
This country needs change and Clinton, with the support she is getting from Wall Street and the Democratic party's establishment, is unable to effect meaningful change. If the record is not enough to convince you, just listen to her repeated platitudes and equivocations.
And to those who argue that we need to support her because Bernie Sanders has no chance of getting elected, I am saying: cui bono?
The defenders of the status quo, that's who.
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Too funny! Gotta love the picture of her in the 4th of July parade - the one showing how her staff roped up the press. From the small size of the crowd - I'd say they tied up the press to KEEP THEM THERE!
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I was going to vote for Donald Trump, but now that I see Kim K. is supporting Hillary, I think I will too.
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Because of the extremely unfair advantages of name recognition and family 'ties', which adds nothing whatever to a persons ability or wisdom, we need to have a law that states that a relative of a president, whether by marriage or blood is not permitted to run for president for at least four terms after the president leaves office. If at all, ever.
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The CNN interview was not good. Mrs. Clinton seemed defensive, disengaged, and somewhat unfriendly. Not to mention, she dodged a few questions. This was very bad in my opinion. She must come across more likeable or voters will go elsewhere.
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Amazing that she dodge a few questions considering how few questions there were.
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So, let's just put her in a room with some more consultants to fine tune her image and delivery, so she, like so many other politicians can PRETEND to be who we WANT them to be.....Honest, open-minded, not partisan etc.....
How about judging her on her accomplishments, or in her case, lack of, instead of some phony image! And we wonder what is wrong with our country today when image is more important than substance and results. Congress would have a lot of empty seats, if we used that standard.
How about judging her on her accomplishments, or in her case, lack of, instead of some phony image! And we wonder what is wrong with our country today when image is more important than substance and results. Congress would have a lot of empty seats, if we used that standard.
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Why doesn't the NYT just put a photo of Hillary at the top of the front page every day and be done with it? They can't even pretend to be objective anymore!
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Re-Re-Re-Recycled
Re-Re-Re-Revolting
Re-Re-Re-Retrograde
Re-Re-Re-Repugnant
Re-Re-Re-Really tired of reading about this woman
Re-Re-Re-Revolting
Re-Re-Re-Retrograde
Re-Re-Re-Repugnant
Re-Re-Re-Really tired of reading about this woman
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Re-Re-Re-Retire from public life.
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"Re-re-re-reintroducing Hillary Clinton" ....
For God's sake. That could be the headline for all of the Times' coverage of her. Enough already! We DO know Hillary Clinton. Please have mercy!
For God's sake. That could be the headline for all of the Times' coverage of her. Enough already! We DO know Hillary Clinton. Please have mercy!
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Hillary keeps reintroducing herself to remind potential voters of an offer that she hopes no one can refuse. You can watch her deliver her half-million-dollar speeches for free. All you have to do is vote for her.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-clintons-make-an-offer-you-cant-refuse/
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-clintons-make-an-offer-you-cant-refuse/
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Having her in the White House won't make her speeches free, or anything else she does. The taxpaying citizens will pay and pay.
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I'm amazed at the vitriol in these comments -- I enjoyed this article and felt I got a glimpse of a real person and one I like. I have reservations about Hillary's hawkish foreign policy positions, but the bottom line is that I am a Democrat because I believe the philosophy and principles of the Democratic Party are the only sensible and just path for our country. Although I will vote Democratic for more reasons than the person at the head of the ticket, I am confident that Hillary will represent my principles well. And she is a woman -- as a feminist and mother of six daughters (and two sons), that is an important added asset for me.
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If you are a women who votes for a women because she is a women you are a feminist.
If you are a man who votes for a man because he is a man you are a sexist.
If you are a man who votes for a man because he is a man you are a sexist.
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Amen, Wolfe. Not to mention that Hillary has been a committed progressive her entire life. One of her first jobs out of law school was as an aide to the Congressional Committee investigating Watergate. Her heart and effort has always been in the right place as a committed liberal and Democrat. I believe people are projecting their own unhappiness with their own lives onto her, as so often happens with public figures (ie. first people loved George W. Bush, and then hated him at the end (cf. Peggy Noonan), even now, many liberals are "disappointed" with Obama. Really, he's improved health care in America, got same sex marriage approved by the S. Ct., made a historic arms control deal with Iran, appointed two superb (and female) Justices to the S. Ct. and the list goes on.). WAKE UP people, and see who's really on your side.
No person as vile as Ms Clinton should ever represent anyone again...
It takes a particular mindset to abandon a US ambassador and United States troops to die to just to increase the odds of winning an election...
It takes a really ethically handicapped person to shout "What difference does it make" when others are trying to hold that person accountable for her actions. She really does not see what the big deal about what she did...
That is not who you want with their finger on the nuclear trigger...
Remember her "We came, we saw, he died," joke... tens of thousands of dead later she is the only one still joking about it...and at one time she was a friend of his...
It takes a particular mindset to abandon a US ambassador and United States troops to die to just to increase the odds of winning an election...
It takes a really ethically handicapped person to shout "What difference does it make" when others are trying to hold that person accountable for her actions. She really does not see what the big deal about what she did...
That is not who you want with their finger on the nuclear trigger...
Remember her "We came, we saw, he died," joke... tens of thousands of dead later she is the only one still joking about it...and at one time she was a friend of his...
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Wonder how many millions she is paying her "handlers?"
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One has to ask just where Hillary Clinton would be without Bill Clinton. Would anyone have heard of her? She is not the superior politician that her husband is. He would go on endlessly, debating the relative merits of any issue in a cogent, effective manner while Mrs. Clinton will avoid any such opportunities like the plague. She has a decidedly politically tin ear and a bad case of foot-in-mouth disease. Mrs. Clinton is precisely what is wrong with dynasties. The follow-ons get an entree that they never would have had otherwise. None of JFK's followers ever measured up to him while W was a very poor successor to his father. Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton by any stretch of the imagination - far from it.
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You are very wrong about the Kennedys, so ...
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Try the reverse. Where would Bill have gotten to without her?
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Not for anything but I think Hill was the brains behind Bill's presidency and that she wanted it more than him, better ask where would Bill be without HIllary?
Still don't want her to be President, don't trust her as far as I can throw her which isn't much.
Still don't want her to be President, don't trust her as far as I can throw her which isn't much.
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If Hillary wins the nomination, I will end my family's 100+ year allegiance to the Democratic Party and vote Republican. Not ready for Clinton.
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Really? Tell us who you like from the GOP?
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Really? You'll vote for another war and another recession? You'll vote for a bigot who will deprive people of health care and the right to vote? Is that really something you want to brag about?
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I see the New York Times is continuing its work to elect Hillary Clinton.... along with her top donors: Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, Time Warner, Lehman Brothers....
Compare this with Mr. Sanders' top donors, and you'll see what differentiates the two candidates. Top donors for Sanders: Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union, Teamsters Union, United Auto Workers, National Education Association, Communication Workers of America, United Foor & Commercial Workers Union, and the list goes on and on.
Compare this with Mr. Sanders' top donors, and you'll see what differentiates the two candidates. Top donors for Sanders: Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union, Teamsters Union, United Auto Workers, National Education Association, Communication Workers of America, United Foor & Commercial Workers Union, and the list goes on and on.
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Oh, please. You call it "Re- (ad infinitum) introducing," I call it pandering.
The only consistent core Clinton belief is "I deserve to be President, by any means necessary." Loathsome. And I should be completely in her corner - a 64-year-old female attorney.
Go Bernie!
The only consistent core Clinton belief is "I deserve to be President, by any means necessary." Loathsome. And I should be completely in her corner - a 64-year-old female attorney.
Go Bernie!
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I just wish the media would focus on her loving relationship with her husband, which proves without a doubt how normal she is.
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I thought it was telling when the media picked up the language of her campaign that she would be making an economic "policy" speech. Policy is not made by candidates but by elected officials and their appointees. She does not hold office, and there is no way to hold her accountable for anything she states.
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Another Hillary article.
Would that a real progressive like Sanders would get the same coverage. After all, he's the one drawing the crowds.
There is only one conclusion from this that I can draw. The Times is part of the media fix that is in.
There's only one problem. I'm not part of the fix. And I don't think a bushel basket of Americans are either.
What is the Gray Lady going to do when that becomes patently obvious?
Would that a real progressive like Sanders would get the same coverage. After all, he's the one drawing the crowds.
There is only one conclusion from this that I can draw. The Times is part of the media fix that is in.
There's only one problem. I'm not part of the fix. And I don't think a bushel basket of Americans are either.
What is the Gray Lady going to do when that becomes patently obvious?
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Hillary is spending a lot of money on her campaign because it takes a lot of advertising to convince voters that she's for the little guy or middle class, when her record shows she's for helping the 1% for their cash. It appears her numerous introductions aren't working in furthering the fiction she wants people to believe, so she tries yet again.
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Run Joe Run.
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Hillary Clinton supported (and still supports) Bush's decision to invade Iraq, which led to the creation of ISIS.
Hillary Clinton supported Bush because:
1) She is stupid beyond belief,
or
2) She is a cynic who felt she had to support Bush for her own future agenda.
Either way, she is disqualified from receiving my vote.
Hillary Clinton supported Bush because:
1) She is stupid beyond belief,
or
2) She is a cynic who felt she had to support Bush for her own future agenda.
Either way, she is disqualified from receiving my vote.
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That is an outright LIE. She has said openly that she made a mistake. You can be as disdainful l as you want, but please no lies.
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This woman lies as soon as her lips begin moving. It seen the only two honest presidential candidates at the moment are Sanders and Trump. At least they speak truth with integrity. Sad state American politics today.
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Rand Paul, libertarian. Thats my vote. Done with Bushes and Clintons.
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Good luck with that.
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Is this a news story or a paid advertisement? What does Mr. Leibovich get for this puff piece? I like to mark on my calendar for when I can expect to read a flattering story about Donald Trump or one of the real Republican candidates.
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Moose stew. Really? Now the NYTimes has to sell us on how much Hillary and Sarah Palin have in common?
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"I mentioned to Clinton how extraordinary it must be to be a de facto standard-bearer for a party that keeps scoring landmark progressive victories."
Another possible "standard bearer" might be, oh, I don't know, maybe…the President?
Or, if we're only looking at candidates, maybe someone who's actually in office and provided active support in Congress? There's this guy named Bernie Sanders, who's also running…
This is getting so tiresome, NYT.
Another possible "standard bearer" might be, oh, I don't know, maybe…the President?
Or, if we're only looking at candidates, maybe someone who's actually in office and provided active support in Congress? There's this guy named Bernie Sanders, who's also running…
This is getting so tiresome, NYT.
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Re: Re-Re-Redundant!
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Funny. The re-re-re-re-reintroductions of Hillary are useless. People know her, they don’t like her. It’s just that simple. This nightmare’s claim to fame is as the aggrieved wife of a disbarred, perjured POTUS and serial philander. Her actual on the job performance is without a single accomplishment. What she did manage was to be “unavailable” when the “three am phone call” actually came. The result of which is the killing of her Ambassador. Yep, a re-re-re-re-re-reintroduction will do the trick. Really?
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Yes, people dislike Hillary so much that she always leaves everyone else, of both parties, in the dust according to polls. Get over it. She's the only one on the Democrats side who stands a chance in this post Citizens United political arena.
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Everyone calm down. Is this your first rodeo? The media build the candidates up, then take them down, then back up, then down. It's a sport. The primaries haven't even started -- there's plenty of time for articles (puff pieces and hit pieces) about everyone on both sides. They'll get to your guy soon enough.
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She's hunting for a version of herself that resonates with people. Whenever she finds it, THAT is who she will always have been, and who she will be for the duration. Of course the more versions she tries on, the less people are likely to identify with any of her fake personalities.
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RE: ‘‘SECRETARY CLINTON, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T THINK YOU’RE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT BENGHAZI.’’ ‘‘WHAT ABOUT THE EMAILS?’’
Goodness knows "reporters" such as the writer of this story (and the CNN "reporter" who interviewed Clinton last week won't ask her why if she has nothing to hide why she will not turn the server over to third party. Or why she never explained her grand canyon lie about Bosnia snipers. Misspeaking is saying you had tuna salad rather than chicken salad. If's not claiming a little girl with a bouquet of flowers in a welcoming ceremony is Bosnian sniper requiring you to run and duck across the airport tarmac. Another question would be why Clinton has been AWOL on the public housing case HUD has against Westchester County - Clinton's. Home if she is really concerned about the middle class let her use her influence to make the county allow the affordable housing.
Oddly instead of real news the writer of this puff piece did manage to talk with Clinton about moose, the Bretton woods agreements, etc..
Goodness knows "reporters" such as the writer of this story (and the CNN "reporter" who interviewed Clinton last week won't ask her why if she has nothing to hide why she will not turn the server over to third party. Or why she never explained her grand canyon lie about Bosnia snipers. Misspeaking is saying you had tuna salad rather than chicken salad. If's not claiming a little girl with a bouquet of flowers in a welcoming ceremony is Bosnian sniper requiring you to run and duck across the airport tarmac. Another question would be why Clinton has been AWOL on the public housing case HUD has against Westchester County - Clinton's. Home if she is really concerned about the middle class let her use her influence to make the county allow the affordable housing.
Oddly instead of real news the writer of this puff piece did manage to talk with Clinton about moose, the Bretton woods agreements, etc..
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Bretton Woods, and Moose---two very critically important issues!
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If you are against inequality, then you are against anyone getting rich, otherwise they would be unequal. So, then Hillary, how do you explain the 140,000,000 bucks you have in the bank? How do you explain your living in a South Hampton mansion? Is that where "the people" live? When s the last time you drove a car? Ever ever ride the subway?
By the way, can you explain your vote for the Iraq war, or your decision to take out Khadafi with no follow up plan? Hows the "reset" with Russia working out?
By the way, can you explain your vote for the Iraq war, or your decision to take out Khadafi with no follow up plan? Hows the "reset" with Russia working out?
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She last drove a car in Arkansas---she answered that question---she ignores the others because they are not important
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Has anyone asked her how hill and bill "bought" their manse in Chappaqua. Hint they didn't. She's been on the public payroll for as long as anyone can remember as has bill. She will never understand what it means to be working poor or being middle class, never, she and bill are far too entrenched and are enjoying their 1% lifestyle, and who wouldn't but please hill spare us your "understanding" what it feels like to be one of the serfs among you.
This is not journalism but clumsy propaganda.
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Clinton is on the horns of a dilemma. Her vast governmental experience—staff lawyer, first lady, Senator, SecState, candidate—has isolated her and leaves her vulnerable to death by a thousand cuts simply because so much of what she's done in life has been highly public. She cannot lead anything approaching a normal life and her tendency to play defense is understandable. Added to that are more than a few missteps along the way ("We were dead broke when we left the White House" Would that I was so "dead broke!")
Of course, having a Republican Party composed of people who become pathologically irrational at the mere mention of her name just adds to her defensiveness.
Of course, having a Republican Party composed of people who become pathologically irrational at the mere mention of her name just adds to her defensiveness.
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That "dead broke" was a pretty minor misstep in the grand scheme of things. I'm a whole lot more concerned about "missteps" like lying about Bosnian sniper fire, the Iraq War vote, taking out Quaddafi leading to the migrant crisis now, "inconsistencies" in the email kerfuffle, Clinton foundaation voodoo, helping to draft the TPP, etc, etc, etc...
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The main thing this article does is make the press scrum sound idiotic and brain dead. "The definition of neurosis is doing the same thing over and over without getting different results." The pointless, screaming mass of reporters render any event unpleasant for the candidate and the voters while accomplishing almost nothing. Everyone wants to gain an understanding of whether Clinton has what it takes to be president. And we are relying on journalists to help us with that. However, trailing behind her in a horde and shouting questions she's never going to answer is not going to help.
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You're right. The NYT should have a headline "Clinton still too cowardly to hold a press conference." Re-run every day if needed.
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Yes, we need to replace all the look at me I'm on TV political reporters with serious issues-oriented people who care about policy rather than polls and gaffes.
This has been the cause of much damage to our political system and thus to our government.
I remember when McGovern held a press conference in an Illinois field to draw attention to the fact that Nixon had tipped off his donors to his plans to end the grain embargo to the USSR, thus giving them inside information they could trade on.
Ignoring yet another Nixonian policy, all the press questioned that day was why Mayor Daley didn't meet McGovern at the airport.
This has been the cause of much damage to our political system and thus to our government.
I remember when McGovern held a press conference in an Illinois field to draw attention to the fact that Nixon had tipped off his donors to his plans to end the grain embargo to the USSR, thus giving them inside information they could trade on.
Ignoring yet another Nixonian policy, all the press questioned that day was why Mayor Daley didn't meet McGovern at the airport.
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I like very much many of the things that Hillary Clinton is saying. However, what concerns me is her failure to support the re-institution of Glass-Steagal, the repeal of which had EVERY to do with the near collapse of our banking system and necessitated the big bank bail outs. If she can't support the re-enactment of Glass-Steagel, then she is not serious about economic reform and is really a tool of Wall Street and the Big Banks.
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Good point---You like what she is 'Saying'---but watch the 'Actions'
Despite this entire article being written to supposedly reveal the human, candid side of Hillary, there is not one single point in which something she says or does has not been meticulously planned by either herself or her campaign manager. Hilary is not "one of us." She is not a politician for the people. She is in this for herself, her own power, and the continued upkeep of her corporate backers. No sugar veneer will ever be able to hide what Hillary is at her core: a corrupt, scheming, fair-weather politician who believes only in what will get her the most votes and more power. Nothing more, nothing less.
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When I saw that nicely-photo-shopped picture of Ms. Clinton -- carefully lit in her red suit -- as she faced the throng...the first thought which crossed my mind was --
"Hmm...I wonder if she's about to go crowd-surfing -- I bet that might be good for a few votes from the young demographic she's after" -
"Hmm...I wonder if she's about to go crowd-surfing -- I bet that might be good for a few votes from the young demographic she's after" -
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I think they will need some college athletes in that crowd to keep her afloat.
Re-re-re-introducing Hillary is the perfect title. Hillary is the Edsel* of politicians. The only people who have not yet figured this out are the Clintons, the DNC, and the NYT.
*An ill fated Ford car of the 1950s. Despite massive amounts of PR and advertising expenditures the car was flop. No one wanted to buy it despite Ford's insistence that is was the car for the times.
*An ill fated Ford car of the 1950s. Despite massive amounts of PR and advertising expenditures the car was flop. No one wanted to buy it despite Ford's insistence that is was the car for the times.
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Universities and other donors are still willing to pay her for her hundreds of thousands for inane speeches. They are willing to endure a flathead screwdriver in one ear and a Phillips in the other ear, just in case she is elected and they will gain access to the Oval Office. Soon enough, the Clinton laundromat for dirty money will be finished and America will be a cleaner place.
Really, NY Times. Haven't you given enough space to the re-branding of Hillary Clinton? How about some coverage of O'Malley, Sanders, Chaffee and Webb. The Times once reported that they were vying for the Democratic nomination too.
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The press can't win with you people. They post a Bernie Sanders and it's "wrong" because "marginalizes" an already marginalized contender. Then when they post about Hillary Clinton there is too much of Hillary Clinton. I have never wanted to leave the democratic party more than I do this year -- I just wish there was a better alternatives because the progressives look like people trying to decide which Apple watch will look better on their wrists. They are not living in the real world and thus, we stand to lose much much more if they do not try to support the only contender who can win. In other words, yet again, the democrats are shooting themselves in the foot.
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Bernie Sanders may be older but he is still an exciting candidate and would make a good President.
Did you actually read the story? It's a great glimpse into how the Clinton machine is more or less the same as ever.
I am deeply saddened by the emerging prospect of a Clinton vs. Bush race. It saddens me that America has gotten to a place where we seem to embrace dynastic rule. Over 300,000,000 in this country, and it's just pure coincidence that a Clinton and a Bush are emerging as our likely choices? Is somebody somewhere already printing the "Chelsea in 2028" bumper stickers? Perhaps we should place a call to the British and say, "You know that revolution we had over 200 years ago? Well, just kidding. Upon further consideration, we now believe you are right. Certain families are meant to rule."
I for one will refuse to cast a vote for either Clinton or Bush; if the two end up as the candidates of our two-party duopoly, I will have no choice but to cast my vote for a third party candidate.
I for one will refuse to cast a vote for either Clinton or Bush; if the two end up as the candidates of our two-party duopoly, I will have no choice but to cast my vote for a third party candidate.
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Jeb Bush is who the liberal media wants nominated, just as they wanted McCain in 2008.
They will push his candidacy with amazing vigor while tearing down anyone else.. until the primaries..
Why?
Liberals know that unless something crazy happens and a more unappealing Republican is nominated, there are too many strong contenders that could beat Hillary.
They will push his candidacy with amazing vigor while tearing down anyone else.. until the primaries..
Why?
Liberals know that unless something crazy happens and a more unappealing Republican is nominated, there are too many strong contenders that could beat Hillary.
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I will vote for Hillary. But it is weird and kind of ridiculous that out of 300 mill. people (though fewer who are eligible to be President), these are the best two. At least Hillary has done much public service during the past 12 years (Sec. of State, U.S. Senator) whereas Senior Bush has done nothing but make money for himself in the private sector, which is not a sin, but doesn't qualify one to be President of these United States.
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What the democrats stand to lose is bigger than the disillusionment of those who see their own happiness as paramount. All of the GOP contenders are climate change deniers, for one thing. We are facing a GOP presidency + congress + supreme court. Nixon won in a landslide because liberals became disillusioned and didn't show up. In 2000, they followed their 'bliss' and Ralph Nader to disastrous consequences. For a group of people who are so-called socialist leaning you sure spend a lot of time thinking only about yourselves. How about you think bigger for once. How about you try to prevent another conservative being appointed on the supreme court.
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Jeb!
Billary!
Back to the future!
Billary!
Back to the future!
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I am at a loss at how Hillary can claim to be for Progressive values and how she can relate "to the rest of us..."
Question: What are you doing with that extra disposable income due to the drop in the price of gas?
Answer: Mrs. Clinton: Oh, I thought that we had already moved to autonomous vehicles since I haven't driven in over 20 years..
The idea that a candidate out of the political class is going to win in 2016 is seeming more and more of a far fetched idea...
Question: What are you doing with that extra disposable income due to the drop in the price of gas?
Answer: Mrs. Clinton: Oh, I thought that we had already moved to autonomous vehicles since I haven't driven in over 20 years..
The idea that a candidate out of the political class is going to win in 2016 is seeming more and more of a far fetched idea...
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Untrustworthy,arrogant,out of touch,power hungry,not worthy,scripted,these are just some of the ways HILLARY comes across.She will be a disaster if she is able to con the majority of voters.
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WOW!!! People are still considering a liar.
What does that say about the voter?
What does that say about the voter?
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We know her to be a blatant liar, not even considering it anymore.
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To me, she has a Romney-esque affect.
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We ain't buyin' it. You reinvent yourself every two weeks. Too many unanswered questions; too much wrong. Disingenuous. No way I vote Republican, but I go Rand Paul before I go Hilary.
We've simply got to push Bernie through...please!!!!
We've simply got to push Bernie through...please!!!!
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Great puff piece, NYTimes! Keep up the rigorous journalism standards!
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Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is the MOST QUALIFIED PERSON to be the next President of the United States. She is smarter, and knows more about politics and the world, than any other person running for the office and most people in the world. We should have listened to her when she spoke of a vast right-wing conspiracy because it has nearly destroyed OUR democracy. Ms. Rodham Clinton was a respected attorney when she became First Lady. According to Wikipedia, "She cofounded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977, she became the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation in 1978, and became the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979. The National Law Journal twice listed her as one of the hundred most influential lawyers in America." She was on the front-line when there was a "conservative" backlash against women having equal rights in America. She kept her head and went on to serve as Secretary of State to President Obama after he won the presidency that she sought - because she LOVES America. And now she is doing us the honor of running for President again and has shown all of us what it is to be a tough, dedicated woman in America. Every woman who is registered to vote in America MUST vote for her. If you aren't registered get registered to vote for her. She is simply the Best!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
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Being a woman is not a valid qualification for leading the United States of America. As for experience, she has been in this for a much shorter amount of time than her current Democratic rival, Bernie Sanders. Her time as Secretary of State produced no notable treaties or partnerships. Instead, she produced the Benghazi scandal. If she were a good Secretary of State, she would not have been replaced by John Kerry.
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She was chosen the Sec. of State as a result of a pre-election back room deal...
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She is smart enough to jump into cattle futures and turn a thousand dollars into a hundred thousand in less than a year. Professionals can't do that after spending a lifetime in the business. That is the mark of an intelligent woman. Think what she could accomplish with America's economy.
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Her finger is always in the wind. Of course, she has to reintroduce herself.
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I have no doubts that Hillary Clinton is at her core a good person who I would like to have as a friend, if I had that opportunity. She's smart and has a great sense of humor, qualities I greatly admire. But those aren't really reasons for me to vote for her. My reluctance to cast a ballot for her in the primaries is mostly the result of her politics, not because of her personality.
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Does a good person demonize women who have been the victim of a sexual predator - in this case Hillary's husband?
Another NYT article on Hillary Clinton. Give me a break! How about one or two article on O'Malley or Jim Webb or Bernie Sanders? PLEASE.
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If HIllary Clinton expects to become POTUS (or even, for that matter, win the nomination) she needs to be more exciting than she is. The truth is that it is not in her character to be spontaneous and eloquent--to be inspiring--in the way that will make people come out and vote for her in a primary, or the general election. She is in trouble. The Party is in trouble, against a field of Republicans who have many charismatic, eloquent, experienced and young candidates. Say what you will, everybody is talking about Republicans, what they say, what they do. Hillary seems always in the periphery, distant, aloof, controlling, controlled. I would say that this is shaping up to be 2008 for her all over again. I mean some people are just perfect would-be candidates, but under the light of day, they are not up to the challenge. She is that person, it appears.
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Everyone is talking about the Republican candidates because they can't believe the number if ridiculous, unethical, basically dumb, out of touch people they are. Not a single one is qualified to be President. And none of them will be, thank god. They should all crawl back into the holes they came out of. I hate to end sentences with prepositions.
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She needs to take a lesson or two from President Obama on public speaking who is one of the greatest public speakers of his generation.
"The Party is in trouble, against a field of Republicans who have many charismatic, eloquent, experienced and young candidates."
That's a joke, right?
That's a joke, right?
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From an outsiders point of view. U.S.A you have made up so much of your history from repelling George the Third and all those European monarchies.
Guess what goes around comes around. The worst of Europe caught up.
Hillary is a fine woman I'm sure. Bernie is setting himself up to be a caricature on SNL (ever have to listen to him?).
The two of them plus the bus which carries republican hopefuls come across as the Polish army during 1939. Horses versus tanks.
The kids, be they American, Chinese or Iranian are not interested in wars long lost and over.
Guess what goes around comes around. The worst of Europe caught up.
Hillary is a fine woman I'm sure. Bernie is setting himself up to be a caricature on SNL (ever have to listen to him?).
The two of them plus the bus which carries republican hopefuls come across as the Polish army during 1939. Horses versus tanks.
The kids, be they American, Chinese or Iranian are not interested in wars long lost and over.
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(ever have to listen to him?)
Ever researched his record?
Ever researched his record?
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It is always striking to read puff pieces like this about the leading Democrat candidate and the sharp contrast to the way Republicans are treated (Scott Walker being the most recent example).
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Scott Walker's record is misanthropic and anti-American. His bid for the presidency is both self-serving and cynical, not based on any desire to help people who need help, make peace in the world or sound policy that advances the true causes of democracy. That might play a role.
The NYT magazine does a puff piece on every candidate. They've done them on Bush, Perry etc. Walker will get his turn.
Still waiting for her to answer unscripted questions from the press. Obama gave us styrofoam columns, here we have a styrofoam candidate.
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You captured it for me better than I could have described it: a styrofoam candidate. Her candidacy is cynical, deceptive and very, very shallow. As a 50-year Democratic voter, I will abandon the party if Hillary is the candidate. In the primary, I will likely vote for one of the first moderates in a long time, Jim Webb.
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Please give us more coverage of HRC. After all, she is the only one the Times thinks is in the race.
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‘‘SECRETARY CLINTON, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T THINK YOU’RE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT BENGHAZI.’’
‘‘WHAT ABOUT THE EMAILS?’’
We must give credit to the Republican campaign against Hillary Clinton along with the endless Fox News agenda. Lets just hope that t-RUMP can hold on to his lead so either Bernie or Hillary will become the next President.
‘‘WHAT ABOUT THE EMAILS?’’
We must give credit to the Republican campaign against Hillary Clinton along with the endless Fox News agenda. Lets just hope that t-RUMP can hold on to his lead so either Bernie or Hillary will become the next President.
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Hillary Clinton has eaten moose stew, she's just like us! The title begs the question: why does Hilary need to be re-re-re introduced in the first place? And why is the NYT so happy to do so, while continuing to marginalize Bernie Sanders, whose authenticity isn't in question and who is trying to actually use the press to share his ideas, not create an atmospherically progressive brand without saying anything specific. It really comes down to something simple: image (Clinton) versus substance (Sanders).
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Hillary is as carefully scripted as a sitcom.
I sent $50 to Bernie Sanders and supported him because of his inherent honesty. However, yesterday I learned that he condemns Israel for its attempts to defend itself from the Hamas terrorists so I have dropped him.
As a Jew interested in the future of the Jewish State I will not support our enemies.
Hillary will win the nomination and she will be much better for Israel than Sanders.
I sent $50 to Bernie Sanders and supported him because of his inherent honesty. However, yesterday I learned that he condemns Israel for its attempts to defend itself from the Hamas terrorists so I have dropped him.
As a Jew interested in the future of the Jewish State I will not support our enemies.
Hillary will win the nomination and she will be much better for Israel than Sanders.
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I'm getting sugar overload from this fluff piece.
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When is the New York Times going to give Bernie Sanders this sort of profile?
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The thing is, Bernie Sanders doesn't need a "re-re-re-re-introduction": His fundamental beliefs and style haven't changed from he was running for mayor of Burlington to his current campaign for president.
This to me highlights the difference between Clinton and Sanders: Clinton is playing the game of presidential politics as it has been played since at least her husband's campaign back in 1992, complete with big-money donations from Wall Street, a carefully managed image, and adjusting positions on the issues in the hopes of winning voters. Sanders is following the complete opposite strategy, by staking out positions first (as he has his entire career), winning over a substantial number of voters, and hoping that attracts the money and organization he needs to keep his campaign running.
This to me highlights the difference between Clinton and Sanders: Clinton is playing the game of presidential politics as it has been played since at least her husband's campaign back in 1992, complete with big-money donations from Wall Street, a carefully managed image, and adjusting positions on the issues in the hopes of winning voters. Sanders is following the complete opposite strategy, by staking out positions first (as he has his entire career), winning over a substantial number of voters, and hoping that attracts the money and organization he needs to keep his campaign running.
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When he owns as many reporters as clinton does.
I agree Bernie's message is strong and admirable, but Bernie could afford to speak on and maintain the same positions for his entire career due to his relatively small and responsive constituency for whom he toed the line on gun control (most of whom would likely never support a female candidate). Most politicians have to answer to a broader constituency. I also missed the part where people aren't allowed to evolve. Anyway, I'm sure the NYT will run profiles of the other Democratic candidates in due course. We are in early days.
Mr. Liebovich's magic is at work in this article to humanize a lady who loathes giving up her personal secrets in a way her husband, Bill, never did. One of the many differences between them, is that Bill doesn't reveal any more about himself in public interviews than she does, he just makes it seem like he is an open book, with endless digressions and excursions into his expansive, policy-wonk, universe of a mind. If anything, she is probably smarter than he is on a purely Stanford-Binet scale level, and that is saying something.
This lady WILL be our first female President if both her and her family's health hold out long enough to make it a reality. This is important, because, if God forbid, Bill should become very sick, or even die, between now and November 2016, she would very likely drop out of the race. They are a symbiotic power couple.
The same thing would be true if their daughter, Chelsea, got sick, or died (again, God forbid) She is such an important bridge between these two very different personalities. This is the reason Martin O'Malley should keep practicing his A-game between now and November 2016. He isn't remotely in Ms. Clinton's category as either a candidate, or as a mind, but the Democratic field gets very small, very quickly, once you pull Hillary out its lineup. Joe Biden? He is a dear man, and a long-suffering, true-blue, Democratic stalwart, but America has already looked Joe over, and given him a pass as a candidate for the Presidency.
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One question. How burned out will Hillary be by the time one of her Re-Re-Re-Re introductions does more than energize a handful of her true believers?
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No amount of Hillary articles by the NYT's will get me to change my mind about voting for Hillary Clinton. What's so exciting about the possibility of a Clinton-Bush presidential campaign? Not one red cent of my money will go towards her campaign. She and Jeb can battle it out with the campaign funds raised by their financial backers and they, in turn, will acquiesce to their demands in running or rather further ruining this country. If it comes down to the two of them running, I predict the lowest voter turnout in this nation's history.
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@Kathryn Cox of Havertown, PA: apparently, her gender is not enough to convince you. You must be an honest-to-God leftest. So much for the power of identity politics.
As far as voter turnout, I believe you will be proven wrong. I'm guessing the 2016 Presidential contest will have one of the highest turnouts in our nation's history. More people in the U.S. will want to claim they voted for the first female U.S. president than even the number in 2008 who wanted to make a similar claim about voting for the first black male president.
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To your point about voter turnout...if the D's and I's are as disillusioned as this commentariat suggests, then a Bush v. Clinton election bodes well for the R's. While I am as uncomfortable with HRC as many others, I am even more uncomfortable thinking about the Rs having an unfettered hand in the selection of not-so-future future US Supreme Court justices. Morever, in my state, the bigger concern may reside in all the other down-ticket races.
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Does a campaign have to be exciting? How about thoughtful. Perhaps listening to the debates makes more sense than looking for some kind of high out of this process.
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She does need reintroducing, from the health-care maven to the defense-hawk-pandering she has rotated a lot.
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Hillary Clinton can re-introduce herself as many times as she please and it won't make a bit of difference. At the end of the day in order to run for office she has to go out in public, speak to the people and have her record examines and that's where it all falls apart for her because at her core she's a repulsive, corrupt, unlikeable scoundrel.
Anyone who looks at Hillary Clinton and sees a person suitable for public office, let alone President, has some serious character flaws of their own they need to be examining.
Anyone who looks at Hillary Clinton and sees a person suitable for public office, let alone President, has some serious character flaws of their own they need to be examining.
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So, Hillary likes parades. I do not.
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Every reporter thinks they are going to be "The One" who breaks the Clinton's hold. They snipe and pick and pick. They make it about them, like this article. There is no more to pick at than any other candidate, but the relish that goes with following her around is unseemly and unprofessional. I'd be guarded too.
I don't need her to be relate-able, I need her to be President.
She will have the last laugh.
I don't need her to be relate-able, I need her to be President.
She will have the last laugh.
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Unfortunately, her last laugh may be a new war in the Middle East. No thanks.
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Being relatable is important both to getting elected and winning the support of the public once elected. Look a the trouble Obama has had reaching the general public.
You work on Wall Street? For the Pentagon? The bank panics are just beginning. Reinstate Glass-Steagall, rein in Wall Street, help the bottom 99%, not her.
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More than telling me anything worthwhile about why Mrs. Clinton might be a good president, this article underlines how little these campaign scrums have to do with making an intelligent choice for the office. The upcoming federal elections are 15 months away, and may end up revolving around issues not yet apparent in this volatile world. Mrs. Clinton and the whole rest of the bunch could spare themselves a lot of unnecessary angst if they just park their bus (or van) for another 6 months, build their campaigns in private and give a little more thought as to why they want to run for president in the first place.
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Couldn't care less about "relatability". Couldn't care less about what's in their undies. What i care about are things like record, judgement, honesty and trustworthiness, accountability, and the right and delicate balance between consistency and flexibility. Clinton falls short (understatement) across the board.
Bernie 2016.
Bernie 2016.
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Nader redux.
Some of the most interesting people I have met in over six decades are strong women, with a mind of their own, who at times start with little and go on to make a wonderful impact on others; the poet Maya Angelou comes to mind and a family friend, a powerful book agent, who was still reinventing herself in her 80s, while remaining grounded in her field of endeavors and work.
Mrs. Clinton appears to be one of these, recognizable to this American, and I admire her spunk, her courage and excitement about this business of living and giving. Wonderful, these women are, although difficult at times, but they are generous in sharing the tremendous energy they have with others.
When having a day of rising from the wrong side of the bed, it is to Mrs. Clinton and others of her kind, that inspire me to try better and place ribbons in my hair and bells on my toes, to join her in celebrating a parade. Perhaps one day, she will visit a famous diner hidden in the Hudson Valley, and the residents of the Village will give her a warm welcome as well.
Mrs. Clinton appears to be one of these, recognizable to this American, and I admire her spunk, her courage and excitement about this business of living and giving. Wonderful, these women are, although difficult at times, but they are generous in sharing the tremendous energy they have with others.
When having a day of rising from the wrong side of the bed, it is to Mrs. Clinton and others of her kind, that inspire me to try better and place ribbons in my hair and bells on my toes, to join her in celebrating a parade. Perhaps one day, she will visit a famous diner hidden in the Hudson Valley, and the residents of the Village will give her a warm welcome as well.
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You're kidding right? Hillary's main qualification is being the boss' wife. Her healthcare debacle caused the loss of the House of Representatives to Republicans after four decades of Democratic rule. Anyone one else would have been handed their head on a platter and shown the door. But the faux feminist MRS. Bill Clinton was rewarded with a senate seat. Being MRS. Bill Clinton is how Hillary got board seat at Walmart and a partnership at the Rose law firm. Do you really think had she not been the governor's wife the power structure in Little Rock / Arkansas would have give Hillary the time of day?
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Reader In Wash, DC
I kid you not, and speaking of kids, Mrs. Clinton is a strong advocate of Children's Rights; a Cause which I am supporting as well, while working for children's welfare and education in the humanitarian community.
You are entitled to your opinion and let us thinking about the qualifications of this Democratic hopeful: her long seasoned experience at The White House, her accrued knowledge of Foreign Policy over the years and heavy assignments, her hard work as Secretary of State, while keeping in mind that should you wish to vote for someone else, as an American and in a Democratic Society, you can always cast your choice for someone who has crawled out of a rock.
I kid you not, and speaking of kids, Mrs. Clinton is a strong advocate of Children's Rights; a Cause which I am supporting as well, while working for children's welfare and education in the humanitarian community.
You are entitled to your opinion and let us thinking about the qualifications of this Democratic hopeful: her long seasoned experience at The White House, her accrued knowledge of Foreign Policy over the years and heavy assignments, her hard work as Secretary of State, while keeping in mind that should you wish to vote for someone else, as an American and in a Democratic Society, you can always cast your choice for someone who has crawled out of a rock.
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To Reader in Wash. DC: I always say that in another age, the philandering husband would have given his wife diamonds and furs. That a certain group can seriously consider her some sort of feminist role model is hilarious and speaks volumes about their own sense of self-esteem.
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This was great! When can we expect the equivalent article for Bernie Sanders? Looking forward to it.
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I'll take Bernie Sanders' rougher-edged and sincere passion about America's problems any day. Any day.
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Look, fellow liberals, we don't have a terrific candidate, but we have one we can work with. Clinton can be pushed to the left, and I think Bernie Sanders is doing heroic work toward that end (perhaps he really, somewhere, thinks he can win but I personally don't think anyone who honestly brands himself as socialist can). I worry about her being a hawk, but I think she'll listen to her constituency there, as opposed to the refusal of the George W. Bush administration to listen to anyone. You don't always get someone like Barack Obama in 2008, and we can't just wait for a great potential leader to be handed to us on a platter. Four more years of our country's life is too important. Let's be grownups and do the best we can. Perhaps if enough of us push for campaign finance reform, we'll eventually get a slate of candidates we like better.
My real worry here is low voter turnout, if enough of the electorate decides they aren't excited by her and stay home. That would be dangerous -- look at who the opposition is likely to be. Democracy is an interactive process, and we can make it better (yes we can -- none of the Koch Brothers candidates were elected in 2012, and GW Bush won Florida -- if you think he did -- by only a few hundred votes) by simply participating.
My real worry here is low voter turnout, if enough of the electorate decides they aren't excited by her and stay home. That would be dangerous -- look at who the opposition is likely to be. Democracy is an interactive process, and we can make it better (yes we can -- none of the Koch Brothers candidates were elected in 2012, and GW Bush won Florida -- if you think he did -- by only a few hundred votes) by simply participating.
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This is a good post. We should support Bernie with everything we've got. I really think he's got a shot at it. If Hillary ends up being the candidate, we can as you say work with it.
Start planning now. Get a group of friends together for a trip to the polls and then a nice meal, either a potluck at someone's house or a local restaurant (stimulate the local economy).
Start planning now. Get a group of friends together for a trip to the polls and then a nice meal, either a potluck at someone's house or a local restaurant (stimulate the local economy).
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You are so right. Voter turnout is everything.
In the 2000 election, out of 6 million votes cast, George W. Bush seemingly "won" by either 537 or 1784 votes. And that changed everything, as we all know.
In the 2000 election, out of 6 million votes cast, George W. Bush seemingly "won" by either 537 or 1784 votes. And that changed everything, as we all know.
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Good ideas. If enough people take a practical approach to A) spreading the word to friends and acquaintances and B) helping as many people to actually vote as possible, Clinton's billions can be overcome.
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No more Bushes or Clintons. Barry Sanders gets my vote.
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I agree with the "no more Clintons or Bushes" but socialism doesn't work. Particularly Bernie's brand of it. He is better than Clinton by far.
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I love that you said Barry..but I believe it's Bernie, Bernard actually!
I like Barry too.
I like Barry too.
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Bernie Sanders ;-)
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I'm sorry, I can't read this article to the end. Not enough time and less interest. Think Philosophy 101 at Iowa State University circa 1966, my first encounter with a deadly drone.
Can we just reboot the entire campaign for President? The Republicans have stretched David Letterman's top (bottom?) ten list to 15 and are threatening to add to that. Hillary is trying to get votes with the used-car salesman method of wearing the customer down. She lacks only the pencil-thin mustache. Bernie Sanders is the best of the Democratic slate, but his message would benefit greatly coming from someone a generation younger. Chaffee was out before he got in, and Jim Webb lost a bunch of points with his views on the Confederate flag.
Can't we just put the name of every American citizen who meets the Constitution's minimum requirement to hold the office of President of the United States in a wire drum, spin it around a few times, and draw the winner (loser? In this climate, is there a difference?) at random.
Can we just reboot the entire campaign for President? The Republicans have stretched David Letterman's top (bottom?) ten list to 15 and are threatening to add to that. Hillary is trying to get votes with the used-car salesman method of wearing the customer down. She lacks only the pencil-thin mustache. Bernie Sanders is the best of the Democratic slate, but his message would benefit greatly coming from someone a generation younger. Chaffee was out before he got in, and Jim Webb lost a bunch of points with his views on the Confederate flag.
Can't we just put the name of every American citizen who meets the Constitution's minimum requirement to hold the office of President of the United States in a wire drum, spin it around a few times, and draw the winner (loser? In this climate, is there a difference?) at random.
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Bill Buckley, is that you? Welcome back.
Believe it or not, my next door neighbor in Waterloo, Iowa, when I grew up was a boy my age named Bill Buckley. But, sorry, not the Bill you're referring to
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"The starkness of this language jumped out at me — “stalks” and, especially, “dehumanized,” a term we associate with subjects of nefarious experiments or victims of unspeakable abuse."
This is the language of a drama queen...in a drama obsessed society reported by a drama loving NYTimes.
The bottom line is that Hilary Clinton is by far, the best and most qualified candidate for president currently running.
This is the language of a drama queen...in a drama obsessed society reported by a drama loving NYTimes.
The bottom line is that Hilary Clinton is by far, the best and most qualified candidate for president currently running.
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"The bottom line is that Hilary Clinton is by far, the best and most qualified candidate for president currently running."
The issue for me is that Clinton supporters are consistently calling her the best and most qualified candidate without providing any kind of reason for that.
If you are voting for her over, say, Bernie Sanders, I'd expect you to rattle off some of her achievements as first lady, senator, and Secretary of State. And then I'd expect you to go on to explain how those are more significant than Bernie Sanders' achievements as a mayor, congressman, and senator.
But you haven't, which suggests that you've made your decision based on something other than her experience and accomplishments.
The issue for me is that Clinton supporters are consistently calling her the best and most qualified candidate without providing any kind of reason for that.
If you are voting for her over, say, Bernie Sanders, I'd expect you to rattle off some of her achievements as first lady, senator, and Secretary of State. And then I'd expect you to go on to explain how those are more significant than Bernie Sanders' achievements as a mayor, congressman, and senator.
But you haven't, which suggests that you've made your decision based on something other than her experience and accomplishments.
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Truth is, I am a life long Democrat voters, and I don't care. Hillary Clinton is an icon. I don't want to vote for an icon.
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The NY Times once noted the "rebranding" of Hillary Rodham Clinton. In advertising and marketing parlance, this is simply making a change from one outdated image to a new - frequently cosmetic - makeover. In many cases, the underlying attributes of the original are virtually unchanged - but it is presented to the public with great fanfare and new packaging. This is the essence of what I like to call "The Hillary Brand®" - unchanged, unapologetic, unconvincing, unethical, unappealing, unapproachable and essentially unAmerican. She has changed her "tough" statesman image into one oozing "family values." She refuses to take responsibility for the debacle in Benghazi during her watch - "what difference does it make" was her response to questioning. Her family values mantra so often picked up by the media to show the softer Hillary is belied by her scorn and ridicule of families and activists (progressives) protesting the TBTF banks and Wall Street ripoff of the public - still unprosecuted. Her new-found support for "average Americans" is disingenuous when she hobnobs only with the Elite. Her appeal could be reduced to her gender alone - because every other attribute is so offensive that it beggars belief why anyone would support her otherwise. To engage her personally will cost you: $1500 per individual, $200,000 per speech + travel, rooms, meals, airfare, and staff costs. Her flag-waving, parade-loving image is designed for the lapdog media. The rest of us don't count.
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Re: "....and essentially unAmerican."
How is Hillary Clinton un-American?
How is Hillary Clinton un-American?
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Seattle is a very liberal city yet I don't know one Democrat who wants Hillary (Billary) Clinton in the White House. Why doesn't The New York Times give some coverage to fine candidates Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb? It's shameful that the media is choosing the two presidential nominees before the conventions next year. A Clinton-Bush match-up is NOT inevitable, so stop acting like it is!
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Agreed. I owe an apology to all of those on the right who claimed that the NYT had already picked HRC as the candidate. I dismissed their claims but that's exactly what they've done.
It should be said that the right wing claim that the NYT is ultra liberal just isn't true. If they were really a liberal publication they would be supporting Bernie Sanders.
It should be said that the right wing claim that the NYT is ultra liberal just isn't true. If they were really a liberal publication they would be supporting Bernie Sanders.
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Completely agree, Belle! The Seattle-ites I know support Bernie Sanders. I run in Democratic circles, and believe me, Hillary is not who people want to know more about.
New York Times, please broaden the coverage on Democratic candidates!
New York Times, please broaden the coverage on Democratic candidates!
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Maybe Sanders and Webb; there is nothing "fine" about O'Malley. That man ruined Maryland.
I don't really care if Hillary Clinton went on a blind date or if she is a chatty friend. I care that she talks about having money troubles while making millions and seems out of touch with what's really going on in the country. She makes sensitive statements about policies favoring families and the poor, but she sides with Wall Street and companies promoting the Keystone pipeline. The nuanced positions she takes seem to be just vague enough to assure her rich and powerful donors while seeming to appeal to the masses.
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She also promoted frackinig around the globe. Very controversial fracking is going on all over Europe & UK thanks to HRC. She's a fraud and will say anything her pollsters tell her the public wants to hear. We've got to and can do better.
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Do I really want to read this endlessly confidential chat about Hillary? I started the article because I should make the effort and quickly answered. NO. I am not wasting my time. I am saturated with the Clintons and not only do I not want more examples of Hillary's efforts to humanize herself and show how trustworthy she is..I am now bored because I don't believe she is trustworthy on any level.
How disappointing that my choice is between two has beens - either a chugging engine struggling uphill(ary) - Ha - through muck and mire or an aging socialist from Brooklyn whose story of heading north to Vermont to find himself is all too trite and predictable. Hillary is selling a revolving door of promises and Bernie is selling an impossible dream. Can't the Democratic Party produce any alternatives?
How disappointing that my choice is between two has beens - either a chugging engine struggling uphill(ary) - Ha - through muck and mire or an aging socialist from Brooklyn whose story of heading north to Vermont to find himself is all too trite and predictable. Hillary is selling a revolving door of promises and Bernie is selling an impossible dream. Can't the Democratic Party produce any alternatives?
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Fifteen Republicans are running for President and then there is Hilary and Bernie. Really, America?
Is there that much lacking in the collective imagination of the Democratic Party that these two folks are the only candidates they can produce? Or is the Clinton name so intimidating? What's up with this? I have nothing against Mr. Sanders but I can't see him winning. But Clinton? If we just allow her to be crowned queen of the Democratic party, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Do we really want Bill Clinton back in the White House? As the unemployed husband? Come on America, we can do better. What about Biden? What about anybody else?
It saddened and angered me that my 10 year old son learned the street definition of oral sex as a result of the behavior of the president of the United States back in '99. It made the rounds on his playground and when he questioned me, I wanted to keel over. I don't care what the budget deficit was or wasn't. The deficit in character continues to dog this married duo into the
present day.. Enough already.
Is there that much lacking in the collective imagination of the Democratic Party that these two folks are the only candidates they can produce? Or is the Clinton name so intimidating? What's up with this? I have nothing against Mr. Sanders but I can't see him winning. But Clinton? If we just allow her to be crowned queen of the Democratic party, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Do we really want Bill Clinton back in the White House? As the unemployed husband? Come on America, we can do better. What about Biden? What about anybody else?
It saddened and angered me that my 10 year old son learned the street definition of oral sex as a result of the behavior of the president of the United States back in '99. It made the rounds on his playground and when he questioned me, I wanted to keel over. I don't care what the budget deficit was or wasn't. The deficit in character continues to dog this married duo into the
present day.. Enough already.
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I had a much tougher time explaining the great recession to my daughter and my son ended up with health problems because of G.W.'s war in Iraq.
I'm no fan of the Clinton's and will support Bernie Sanders but whoever ends up running, it's important to focus on our economy, we can't afford another recession and another unfunded war.
I'm no fan of the Clinton's and will support Bernie Sanders but whoever ends up running, it's important to focus on our economy, we can't afford another recession and another unfunded war.
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There are three other Democrat Presidential candidates besides Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. They are Lincoln Chafee, Martin O'Malley, and Jim Webb. It would be nice to see news pieces on all five of these candidates stances on issues past and present and not merely their likability.
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The thought of another Clinton habitating in the White House leaves leaves me with dread. Blech.........Slick Willy back at the White House doing what he does best. Yes I'd rather a man like Bernie or Biden but the libs will never go for it, so we're stuck with Hill and her pack of wolves. I once had high hopes for her now not at all. She is cold and calculating and is looking out for herself and no one else. Can't think of one thing she actually accomplished as SOS that has led to any meaningful change. There has to be a better choice.
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Now the golden child is on the cover...........still waiting for some balanced journalism from the Times on the other democratic candidates running. Namely Mr. Sanders, editors of the Times, you do realize there are other candidates don't you????? One sided biased reportign from the times is more like it. Your credibility has fallen a notch or two or three......
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You're complaining about lack of balance, so why no mention of O'Malley or Webb?
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The NYTimes never had credibility in their news coverage of Hillary, which is consistently negative. This is a personality story of the kind that often appears in the Magazine. It's not hard news, so settle down. I also think that many of these Bernie "supporters" aren't really.
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Nice puff piece! Readers really get a sense of how Hillary's campaign staff would like voters to think of her -- instead of the Secretary of State who famously cackled upon Muammar Gaddafi's lynching (a la Julius Caesar), "We came, we saw, he died." Or who pledged to "obliterate" Iran if it attacked Israel. Or who, as a senator, voted without reservations for the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. Or who likened Vladimir Putin to "Hitler" for his support of Eastern Ukrainian opponents of the 2014 putsch in Kiev. Or all the $200,000 "speaker fees" she's collected from Wall Street banks....
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"Or who, as a senator, voted without reservations for the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq."
And as importantly, cast that vote without reading the report.
And as importantly, cast that vote without reading the report.
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Re-re-re-ignoring Bernie Sanders.
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"Go Bernie!". LOL. I'll save my breath and so should you because Bernie won't go anywhere. The notion that America is ready to elect a socialist as POTUS or that the Democrats are ready to select a non-Democrat socialist as their standard-bearer is as credible as the claim that anyone out there is ignoring Bernie Sanders. He's gotten plenty of coverage and has, as result, risen in the polls but has quite likely peaked because Americans in the aggregate are ideologically closer to Hillary than they are to Bernie. If you'd like to avoid waking up on the day after election 2016 to president Jeb Bush and the certainty that the SCOTUS would turn deep red during his reign, you'd stop entertaining the notion that Bernie can possibly win and throw all your support to Hillary.
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Every time the Times posts something about Bernie Sanders you all complain that it isn't portraying him in a positive light. You are angry that he is being marginalized. The Times can't win in this scenario. What a shame that THIS is how we are all treating the first viable female candidate for President.
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@ Sasha Stone:
Preach it! I've been following your website since I got a dial-up modem; and I'm happy to see you contribute here!
@ Technic Ally:
The Democrats being ignored are Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb (and, I suppose, Lincoln Chafee).
Senator Sanders has very little chance of securing major blocs of delegates for the Democratic National Convention, just as you (living in Canada) have very little chance of being elected President. (Even if you are a citizen, there is also a residency rule.)
@ Sasha Stone:
Preach it! I've been following your website since I got a dial-up modem; and I'm happy to see you contribute here!
@ Technic Ally:
The Democrats being ignored are Martin O'Malley and Jim Webb (and, I suppose, Lincoln Chafee).
Senator Sanders has very little chance of securing major blocs of delegates for the Democratic National Convention, just as you (living in Canada) have very little chance of being elected President. (Even if you are a citizen, there is also a residency rule.)
Still waiting for a series of articles of substance discussing the only thing that really matters to us--specific policies Ms. Clinton supports. After scanning this article, I see nothing of substance about what she plans to do if elected.
Specifics Ms. Clinton, we need specifics. Until then, I will support the only candidate who seems comfortable taking on the status quo and power elite--Bernie Sanders.
Specifics Ms. Clinton, we need specifics. Until then, I will support the only candidate who seems comfortable taking on the status quo and power elite--Bernie Sanders.
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This is the second time she's run for President. Do we really not know where she stands?
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What she plans to do if elected? Have another bowl of moose stew?
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Considering that Obama was twice elected on vague promises and pretty words, it will be very impressive if the US public demands specifics.
No one can say that the New York Times isn't giving Hilary Clinton enough coverage.
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I agree. Hardly a single mention of Jeb Bush's unconstitutional invasion of brain-dead Terri Schiavo's family, his drug-dealing college days or his brazen interference with electoral ballot counting in two Presidential elections. Not nearly enough close examination of Carly Fiorina's history of corporate malfeasance. Too little on Scott Walker's union-busting and weak academic credentials. Barely a mention of Ted Cruz's signature accomplishment in Congress, the 16-day government shutdown that cost us taxpayers $24 billion dollars with nothing to show for it. And no real examination of Martin O'Malley or Lincoln Chaffee.
Hillary Clinton would be taking up the lion's share of the NYT's attention span if not for Donald Trump.
Hillary Clinton would be taking up the lion's share of the NYT's attention span if not for Donald Trump.
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I was about to say the same thing. This is a 'Hype' article for Hillary.
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Hillary fatigue set in long ago. Nothing new there, and not worth the spilled ink.
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Hillary's time is past. Progressives like Elizabeth Warren and BERNIE SANDERS need to capture the wave that got started with OWS and continues with the exposure of a system that isn't, as they say, "a level playing field."