The commenters chastising the Europeans and holding up the US as a shining example of a better way might want to talk to some Native Americans about the benefits of unrestricted immigration.
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It's ironic that this meeting took place on the same day as multiple horrific terrorist attacks were carried out on three continents. While it may not be politically correct to say this, all the terror attacks were carried out by young Muslim men, who make up the majority of the refugees. This places the European leaders between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand they want to help the young Muslim men seeking asylum, but on the other hand they are justifiably concerned that they are opening their doors to future terrorist. None of these countries have the resources to monitor potential terrorist, so we all know that terror attacks in Europe will continue. Who wants to face the families of the people who will be killed to try to explain why the terrorists responsible for the deaths were admitted to the country and supported by government benefits?
The refugees come from countries that face huge population bubbles with large numbers of young people reaching adulthood without economies that can offer them any prospect for the future. Sectarian conflict within the Muslim world is not something outsiders can fix. Whatever the European governments do today, they will have to live with for decades to come with every growing numbers of refugees. I'm glad I don't have to figure this out.
The refugees come from countries that face huge population bubbles with large numbers of young people reaching adulthood without economies that can offer them any prospect for the future. Sectarian conflict within the Muslim world is not something outsiders can fix. Whatever the European governments do today, they will have to live with for decades to come with every growing numbers of refugees. I'm glad I don't have to figure this out.
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I'm reading these comments and I'm losing my faith in humanity.
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Why shouldn't Hungary build a 13' fence to keep out illegal migrants? We did it three times over on our southern border.
The absurdity of having the EU blurting out platitudes to its members, to take in populations which have proven to be so deeply troublesome and destabilizing is almost funny.
The absurdity of having the EU blurting out platitudes to its members, to take in populations which have proven to be so deeply troublesome and destabilizing is almost funny.
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European leaders are reluctant to commit to accepting these migrants for the simple reason that they are elected to represent voters who do not want to admit more migrants.
Assume other European countries find a way to wedge in another 40,000 people to relive the pressure on Italy. By the time it's done, another 40,000 will arrive in Italy and Greece. Then what?
Neither Europe or any other place on earth has the capacity or the political will to act as a new homeland for all the millions of people fleeing Middle East and African war zones. The only solution- and, as should be well-evident by now, Westerners cannot do this for them- is for the countries involved to resolve the conflicts that are producing these endless waves of human desperation.
Assume other European countries find a way to wedge in another 40,000 people to relive the pressure on Italy. By the time it's done, another 40,000 will arrive in Italy and Greece. Then what?
Neither Europe or any other place on earth has the capacity or the political will to act as a new homeland for all the millions of people fleeing Middle East and African war zones. The only solution- and, as should be well-evident by now, Westerners cannot do this for them- is for the countries involved to resolve the conflicts that are producing these endless waves of human desperation.
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60 million destitute people are trying to get into Europe. Do its politicians really think they can find space for them without turning the continent upside down?
They are essentially importing social unrest and destruction of the European way of life. As a consequence, they are forcing European voters into the far right direction.
They are essentially importing social unrest and destruction of the European way of life. As a consequence, they are forcing European voters into the far right direction.
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Every problem can have a solution. The solution may not be perfect but leaving the problem without solution, would only aggravate it and make the future solution even more difficult.
We all know from history that in Europe and Asia during WWII, people who didn't like the invaders, started their own partisan war against the system imposed on them. The Allies supported these partisans and ultimately they won and restored the independence and economic development of the liberated countries. As far as I know, there was no massive migration of Europeans or Asians but rather of fighters who wanted to liberate their own countries.
We don't see such events in Africa and Middle East. Europe and US should eventually encourage and support financially such solution of people fighting in their own countries for peace, freedom and better life rather than supporting resettlement of millions in Europe.
We all know from history that in Europe and Asia during WWII, people who didn't like the invaders, started their own partisan war against the system imposed on them. The Allies supported these partisans and ultimately they won and restored the independence and economic development of the liberated countries. As far as I know, there was no massive migration of Europeans or Asians but rather of fighters who wanted to liberate their own countries.
We don't see such events in Africa and Middle East. Europe and US should eventually encourage and support financially such solution of people fighting in their own countries for peace, freedom and better life rather than supporting resettlement of millions in Europe.
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I'm now convinced now than ever that this whole so called European Project is doomed to fail & will collapse. The idea of sending encouraging signals that migrant would be welcomed & resettled would not solve the problem but simply encourage more migrants to come en-masse. The EU countries have absolute zero consent from their citizens to do this and yet they carry on relentlessly. The main problem with the EU is that it lacks any democratic legitimacy & mandate from its people. And you can't simply continue to govern countries without democratic consent. The other irresponsible & reckless idea being purported by this paper & the EU is to overlook security concerns raised by EU citizens about the potential for ISIS to smuggle potential terrorists & suicide bombers disguised as migrants.At a time when the West are at war with ISIS.We've seen ISIS attacks just yesterday in France,Tunisia,Kuwait, etc, yet any attempt to raise these concerns are rubbished by the UN, liberal media like this paper, as if these are not legitimate concerns. EU citizens do not want closer integration within the EU The EU is equally as corrupt as FIFA - highly unemployment, weak economies, undemocratic offices & institutions. Look and the twin stories of Greek & Iceland for proof that the EU does not work. One was in the EU and the other was not. Look at how Iceland was able to reform and get back on track, then look at the Mess with Greece (an EU member). You cannot govern without consent.
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Maybe, the EU should consider consequences like this when they pledge support to the U.S. to invade other countries or otherwise interfere in other's affairs.
It is especially ironic that Eastern European countries, eager supporters of the U.S. military initiatives, claim that dealing with migrants and refugees is a “violation of their sovereignty” and they defend this stance with “fierce hostility.” Poland deployed a few thousand troops to Afghanistan and another few thousand to Iraq besides providing logistics and other support. It would only be fair if they now take in a similar number of refugees from these countries, especially since the Poles did not mind taking credit in various forms for participating in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The EU countries have refused to allow entry to Ukrainian refugees. But shouldn’t the EU admit their contribution to the conflict in Ukraine and accept responsibility for that? For a long time, I have been a strong supporter of the EU and the idea that promised peace and prosperity for all. However, in the recent years my support is waning because of the EU’s increasingly hawkish attitude. I do not believe in moral obligation of the EU to admit migrants. But neither do I believe in destabilizing other countries. If the EU countries wanted to get rid of Qaddafi so badly, then they should not mind dealing refugees from Libya. Getting what we want is worth every penny, right?
It is especially ironic that Eastern European countries, eager supporters of the U.S. military initiatives, claim that dealing with migrants and refugees is a “violation of their sovereignty” and they defend this stance with “fierce hostility.” Poland deployed a few thousand troops to Afghanistan and another few thousand to Iraq besides providing logistics and other support. It would only be fair if they now take in a similar number of refugees from these countries, especially since the Poles did not mind taking credit in various forms for participating in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The EU countries have refused to allow entry to Ukrainian refugees. But shouldn’t the EU admit their contribution to the conflict in Ukraine and accept responsibility for that? For a long time, I have been a strong supporter of the EU and the idea that promised peace and prosperity for all. However, in the recent years my support is waning because of the EU’s increasingly hawkish attitude. I do not believe in moral obligation of the EU to admit migrants. But neither do I believe in destabilizing other countries. If the EU countries wanted to get rid of Qaddafi so badly, then they should not mind dealing refugees from Libya. Getting what we want is worth every penny, right?
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The Vienna branch of the Catholic charity Caritas has opened a hotel that is run by professionals and refugees who have asylum status in Austria. It helps the refugees integrate in the working world of Austria, learn skills and get paid. For many of the workers, it is their home away from home http://passblue.com/2015/06/24/at-a-hotel-run-by-refugees-in-vienna-a-br...
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Wow! It's amazing that during a week when we morn the hatred that brought about the deaths of nine good and gentle people, that you can still muster up the despicable sentiments voiced here. We are all migrants, at one point or another. They were all brave people, seeking something better. The sentiments expressed here "I've got mine, and your not getting any of it". The derth of compassion, and fellowship is truly repulsive.
Most of our countries could use more young people, Think ahead with your heads and hearts.
You French were once Germans, you Germans were Hungarians, Vikings, and all sorts of other Barbarians. We Americans are every kind of people, You remember "the tired the poor the retched refuse". Please prove yourself at least a good as you poor, uneducated ancestors.
Most of our countries could use more young people, Think ahead with your heads and hearts.
You French were once Germans, you Germans were Hungarians, Vikings, and all sorts of other Barbarians. We Americans are every kind of people, You remember "the tired the poor the retched refuse". Please prove yourself at least a good as you poor, uneducated ancestors.
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Renzi put his finger on it: the important question is the rest of Europe's solidarity with the front-line countries. They're showing that there is no such solidarity: one more prop knocked out from under the EU. Are any betting sites making odds on how much longer it survives?
What the heck is wrong with sticking these mostly male, economic migrants back on a bus and sending them home with a one way ticket. I can't fathom for the life of me why the Europeans have to house, feed and care for them.
Allow the countries that want and may need them to take them in, several days ago an article spoke of the decling Japenese population, call Japan.
A few weeks ago another article addressed the older children living with their parents in different countries due to a tough economics. Do these depressed (financially) European people have to cover the costs of these migrants and then have their own people compete on home turf with them. Two bad ideas.
ON a bus . NOW.
Allow the countries that want and may need them to take them in, several days ago an article spoke of the decling Japenese population, call Japan.
A few weeks ago another article addressed the older children living with their parents in different countries due to a tough economics. Do these depressed (financially) European people have to cover the costs of these migrants and then have their own people compete on home turf with them. Two bad ideas.
ON a bus . NOW.
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It comes down to this: I want you to give me, a stranger, part of what you have. I want your job, your money, and your privileges. I have a right to it, because I don't like my old situation, I'm not willing to get involved in the conflict back home, and I'm a refugee. You'll have to spend your resources on me one way or the other. You might as well let me stay, as long as you understand that I don't plan to assimilate. I'll make trouble if I have to.
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They should be sent back. It is colonialism and demands a huge percentage of EU resources be devoted to non-Europeans. When they fail to assimilate the EU is required to devote even more resources to them. They will not become European but Europe will become Islamic. The entire Islamic world protests Israelis treatment of Palestinians. They do not demand that Palestinian refugees be absorbed in other countries but that Israel improves it's treatment of Palestinians. Why aren't the same demands being made on Islamic and African countries? Why aren't there the same protests about the way these governments. It's a way for the Islamic world to colonize Europe and a way for Africa to force whitey to compensate for their horrific inability to get it together.
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Our Homeland Security Chief, Jeh Johnson, just decided to no longer detain Central Americans who have swamped our border seeking asylum. Instead he is letting them out on bond. I wonder what percentage of these people will just blend in to Hispanic communities instead of showing up for hearings. And, of the ones who will attend hearing, what percentage will have been told exactly what to say in order to be given asylum. I'd like to know if any of their stories will be checked, and how many will be awarded asylum status, along with its government benefits.
Why are we letting in unskilled, poorly educated, non-English speakers who have left countries where the violence has actually decreased when many of our own citizens live in crime-ridden areas and need government help?
Once word of Jeh Johnson's decision reaches Central America, the numbers of people seeking asylum will rebound.
Why are we letting in unskilled, poorly educated, non-English speakers who have left countries where the violence has actually decreased when many of our own citizens live in crime-ridden areas and need government help?
Once word of Jeh Johnson's decision reaches Central America, the numbers of people seeking asylum will rebound.
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What you've written sounded like a terrible idea, but rather an implausible turnaround of administration policy, so I looked it up. Anyone interested in Secretary Johnson's actual June 24 statement on policies regarding minor changes to terms of detention for Central American "families" (who present a case asylum and post bond) can find it at the link below. Here's a highlight: "Finally, continued use of family residential centers will allow for prompt removal of individuals who have not stated a claim for relief under our laws." http://www.dhs.gov/news/2015/06/24/statement-secretary-jeh-c-johnson-fam...
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Does Europe really need any more nonintegrated, disenfranchised migrants? Europe needs to close ranks and deal with the mess that it already has allowed to develop. Sorry.
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I must say in my lifetime I haven't seen Europe strained like this. Maybe only comparable to the height of the cold war. We have Putin's Russia literally grabbing territory off a neighbour, we have hundreds of billions of euros being thrown down a pit at greece, we have hundreds of thousands of unskilled immigrants making it into Europe at a massive cost to taxpayers, and we have continued economic malaise in the Mediterranean.
Perhaps we have reached the limits of what a layered democracy can do. No one seems to have the required executive power to solve problems. On the other hand, Europe has endured a LOT worse in its long history, so I'm quite confident about the future.
Perhaps we have reached the limits of what a layered democracy can do. No one seems to have the required executive power to solve problems. On the other hand, Europe has endured a LOT worse in its long history, so I'm quite confident about the future.
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The most important fact for the 21st Century world, more important even than climate change, is the UN's forecast that the population of African will grow from 1.1 billion today to 4.2 billion by 2100:
http://takimag.com/article/africa_on_the_brink_steve_sailer/print#axzz3e...
Without strong leadership from Europe today to encourage female education and contraception in Africa, Europe will be mostly a banlieue of Africa by 2100.
http://takimag.com/article/africa_on_the_brink_steve_sailer/print#axzz3e...
Without strong leadership from Europe today to encourage female education and contraception in Africa, Europe will be mostly a banlieue of Africa by 2100.
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Nice to see so many compassionate people posting comments on this article. So much concern expressed for their fellow human beings. Obviously I'm being sarcastic. Sad.
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Indeed, the lack of empathy on the part of most of the comments is disturbing, but not surprising. Rather than working towards a more equitable distribution of wealth among members of their own populations, in other words instead of finding ways to circulate the millions or billions of Euros a minority is holding on to in order to create new jobs for unemployed or overworked people, political elites (e.g., right-wing xenophobic parties) foment anger against other oppressed folks. These kind of divisive strategies have always been around (U.S. poor white folks vs. black slaves, "pure" Germans vs. Jews, Jews vs Palestinians). Instead of being so angry at people running from war-torn countries, let's work together against the true causes of political-economic equality (e.g, the hoarding of capital and political power). Don't compete, cooperate!
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I couldn't agree with you more, Alex.
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I start hating people who keep telling us we have an moral obligation of whatever reason. Especially those who have no idea how do deal with those amount of migrants. And we are talking about a few thousands, not even 1% of the people which are displaced in the war of syria.
It is not about taking them in, it is about what to do with them next.
I want all those smarty-pants to come up with ideas how to handle them once they have reached their destination country. And come up fast with good ideas, because otherwise i think some countries will come up with solutions, you have seen last in Nazi-Germany.
It is not about taking them in, it is about what to do with them next.
I want all those smarty-pants to come up with ideas how to handle them once they have reached their destination country. And come up fast with good ideas, because otherwise i think some countries will come up with solutions, you have seen last in Nazi-Germany.
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If I remember correctly, the EU is a democracy. Clearly the voters have had enough refugees. A rapid and concerted military campaign should be undertaken to protect the shores of Europe from the incursion of any more refugees. As others here have suggested, immediately return them to the point of embarkation, and sink the boats. This would be a good opportunity for the various navies involved to practice maneuvers. BTW, how many refugees has Israel welcomed in this latest crisis?
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I wish for a moment you would think a bit more and put yourself in their shoes before making strong statements such as sinking ships.
The immigration towards Europe is a collateral damage of the US and western policies in the middle east and south east Asia so face it. You destabilize their countries, create the opportunities for religious fanatics and other sorts of fanatics to take ground and now have the guts to say sink their ships. Nobody wants to leave their countries, sometimes people do it out of desperation and at the end of the day everyone has the right to fight and try for a better living.
The immigration towards Europe is a collateral damage of the US and western policies in the middle east and south east Asia so face it. You destabilize their countries, create the opportunities for religious fanatics and other sorts of fanatics to take ground and now have the guts to say sink their ships. Nobody wants to leave their countries, sometimes people do it out of desperation and at the end of the day everyone has the right to fight and try for a better living.
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The answer is to return these people supplied with water and food to their point of embarkation. Once that happens they will get the message.
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It is a world-wide problem with no easy answer. As stated in the story, many of the migrants seek "more generous government benefits"--but how many countries can afford to take care of their own needy citizens plus the millions hoping to move there? Conversely, can we ignore millions living in horrible poverty and under terrible governments?
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One answer to the world refugee crisis is to hold the native country responsible for families where 6 children and more are dependent upon one wage earner. Birth control restrictions would be a good place to start. Religious practice would be a way to curb violence and stem excessive sexual behaviors. This would certainly be better than breeding more children for militantly inspired violence and starvation. Women should have rights endorsed by the UN to determine the number of pregnancies they wish to endure. The Chinese got it right -- one child per family and wages increased, standard of living rose, in addition to the nation gaining strength.
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The US has presently some 14 million illegal immigrants looking to become legal. That is after giving amnesty to 14 million in 1986 with the promise that this will never happen again. 40,000 should be a piece of cake in Europe.
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Refugees in Europe are quite different to illegal immigrants in the US. We are legally obliged to feed, cloth and house these people. And they are not allowed work while being processed. So that's a massive net cost. I'm pretty sure you give your immigrants nothing and they will usually find work.
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you are comparing apples with peaches.
Those 40000 are just a fraction of the immigrants coming to europe. The real number is closer to 1.5 million. And the 14 million in the US are numbers which have summed up over the years.
And we are dealing with really problematic immigrants. How many syrians you have just denied to take in ? 2000 ? And just because there might be some jihadists among them ? 2000 syrians we take in every week, for now two years already.
Those 40000 are just a fraction of the immigrants coming to europe. The real number is closer to 1.5 million. And the 14 million in the US are numbers which have summed up over the years.
And we are dealing with really problematic immigrants. How many syrians you have just denied to take in ? 2000 ? And just because there might be some jihadists among them ? 2000 syrians we take in every week, for now two years already.
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I don't understand why you worry so much about the fiscal burden on Germany when it's in fact Italy, Greece, Lebanon and Turkey that are dealing with the the GDP first hand. Correct me if i'm wrong but what the article is pretty much saying is that northern EU countries have a "Pas Moi" attitude so what exactly are they worrying about ?
Tangibly and in concrete numbers what has been the burden on Germany ?
Tangibly and in concrete numbers what has been the burden on Germany ?
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Yet they, as well as USA and other countries, wish to pressure DR into accepting up to 2 million folks w/o any papers whatsoever, health certificates, needed job skills, ...just because they know our elected officials are a bunch of swindlers who got their post in the first place 'cause they have bend over to their desires; otherwise they would lay maimed, starved, or in jail.
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One wonders why this is looked upon as only a European problem. It is a vast international problem, therefore other countries world-wide also need to help by participating in a longer-term solution and by sharing in the international allocation of those refugees in European countries.
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Nope. Perhaps it's time to stop talking about population control?
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Population control is the necessity, no doubt about it. Either that'll mean birth control or genocide. If people refuse to practice birth control, eventually they'll be genocided instead. When the water runs out, morality is going to go right out the window on this topic, so brace yourselves.
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I'm wondering if it would be easier to integrate tens to hundreds of thousands of people in the E.U. or for the E.U. to bring together military resources to just invade and clear out a swath of land in Libya and settle the migrants there. I imagine the latter would probably be easier.
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These leaders are weak and sorry. Only one thing will work: zero tolerance. Blockade the Libyan coast and search all vessels entering and leaving. Intercept any boats carrying illegal migrants at sea and take them to ports on the coast of Africa, disembark them and tow the boats to sea and sink them. Any already in Europe need to be quickly processed and repatriated to their homelands. The few from actual war torn countries, genuine "refugees", should be settled in neighboring nations to their own in UN and Red Cross supervised camps until peace is restored and they can go home. Once word gets out that no European country permits any illegal interloper to stay in any European country the illegal invasion will simply dry up and disappear. It takes real brains and backbone to do this and most of the EU politicians are witless, corrupt and worthless. Unless such stern "tough love" measures are taken soon however the "Far Right" is going to take power in several "front line" European countries and that is opening up a Pandora's Box that I do not think the weak kneed bleeding heart liberals and globalists really want to occur. The choice is theirs: Either stop the illegal invasion of economic migrants "cold" or there will shortly be people in power who will.
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Corrupt is probably a strong word, but witless and worthless I can agree with.
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"The plan for a military response has also run into obstacles from Libya’s internationally recognized government, which, despite having only tenuous control of parts of the country, has said it could not tolerate any European violations of its sovereignty."
But they have no real objections to others violating European sovereignty territory obviously.
But they have no real objections to others violating European sovereignty territory obviously.
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Poland has already accepted about 400,000 migrants from Ukraine, many from the eastern war zone and some from Crimea, although, granted, most of them
have only temporary work permits and very few have a permanent refugee status
have only temporary work permits and very few have a permanent refugee status
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The Ukrainians are not muslim, they are Christian so they don't pose the risk of non assimilation, violence, or antipathy that the other migrants do.
Libya's government and its sovereignty? Now there's an oxymoron for you. These vipers and leeches known as human traffickers must be destroyed utterly. Europe has no need of some distant U.N. bureaucrats in New York or Geneva giving out a permission slip. Attack and destroy these vipers in their lair in North Africa. Bomb their craft and their piers. Send in commandos to capture the ringleaders and bring them to justice. Get the word out that there will be no free housing, education or access to the dole.
I know the latter point sounds mean-spirited but once you take the financial incentive away the migrant segment from Africa not involved in Middle East wars are much less likely to risk a hazardous leaky boat journey. It is these awful parasites robbing and endangering migrants who should be taken down as a necessary first measure. Then work on setting up safe zones in the Middle East where war refugees can be given basic services and shelter. But they cannot be allowed to think such massive numbers will be allowed to swamp other countries and their social services in one mad rush.
European countries and citizens have etained the right to patrol their own immigration system and borders has its own very real s The people of Europe see the suffering of the exploited migrants (not "asylum seekers" as the NYT and the activists claim but mostly economic refugees)
I know the latter point sounds mean-spirited but once you take the financial incentive away the migrant segment from Africa not involved in Middle East wars are much less likely to risk a hazardous leaky boat journey. It is these awful parasites robbing and endangering migrants who should be taken down as a necessary first measure. Then work on setting up safe zones in the Middle East where war refugees can be given basic services and shelter. But they cannot be allowed to think such massive numbers will be allowed to swamp other countries and their social services in one mad rush.
European countries and citizens have etained the right to patrol their own immigration system and borders has its own very real s The people of Europe see the suffering of the exploited migrants (not "asylum seekers" as the NYT and the activists claim but mostly economic refugees)
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There's only one way to effectively deal with the migrant crisis. Europe has to band together with like-minded nations, who believe in human rights and preventing atrocities, and conquer Libya, Syria, Sudan, Iraq, Yemen, and Somalia. Those six countries are where most of the refugees are coming from, there are millions more on the way, and they are lawless places akin to hell on earth. The only way to stop the wars is by flattening all armed groups in those nations and restoring order by force. Then the U.N. can govern them as protectorates for a few generations until things calm down.
If that is not done, and I'm certain it will not be, the refugees will continue to increase, and Europe will not be able to sustain them. Naturally refugees who get shelter will not be assimilated into their new societies, will be impoverished and hopeless, and will thus be a source of jihadist terrorists.
So I think option one is, as I say, clean up the sources and stop the flow that way. Option two starts with not doing much other than hand-wringing, which Europe is fully committing to right now. It ends with refugees being sunk at sea and gunned down on the beaches.
Neither option is palatable but there are no other options.
If that is not done, and I'm certain it will not be, the refugees will continue to increase, and Europe will not be able to sustain them. Naturally refugees who get shelter will not be assimilated into their new societies, will be impoverished and hopeless, and will thus be a source of jihadist terrorists.
So I think option one is, as I say, clean up the sources and stop the flow that way. Option two starts with not doing much other than hand-wringing, which Europe is fully committing to right now. It ends with refugees being sunk at sea and gunned down on the beaches.
Neither option is palatable but there are no other options.
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So this is what a real debate and proactive steps to staunch illegal immigration look like when immigrants aren't being pushed through to appease political groups and garner votes.
It's very different from how it was handled in the US, where the feds just quickly moved all the immigrants into towns without advising local governments they were even coming.
When they figure it out, maybe they can let us know.
It's very different from how it was handled in the US, where the feds just quickly moved all the immigrants into towns without advising local governments they were even coming.
When they figure it out, maybe they can let us know.
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That's an extraordinary point of view given that it does not comport with American history. Mass immigration to the United States has been a matter of fact since the Irish potato famine. Millions of Germans immigrated to the United States during the German civil war of the mid-1800's. Several hundred thousand fled Vietnam during the North-South war.
In this, and in more than a half-dozen other examples of mass immigration, people quite literally stepped off the boat at Ellis Island or walked across the infamously porous U.S./Mexico border and made themselves at home with little or no acknowledgement from local authorities. This has been the case for more than two hundred years of American history. You may disagree with this modus operandi, but it is Americana at its core. As such, your disagreement is not with "political groups" looking to garner votes. It is with the well established practices of immigration management used since the time of the Revolutionary War.
In this, and in more than a half-dozen other examples of mass immigration, people quite literally stepped off the boat at Ellis Island or walked across the infamously porous U.S./Mexico border and made themselves at home with little or no acknowledgement from local authorities. This has been the case for more than two hundred years of American history. You may disagree with this modus operandi, but it is Americana at its core. As such, your disagreement is not with "political groups" looking to garner votes. It is with the well established practices of immigration management used since the time of the Revolutionary War.
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John:
Yes, we've always had massive immigration and been a better nation for it; but today we have illegal immigrants breaching our border and a president who turns a blind eye, even aids it, because of political pressure and a desire for political votes. Obama's Executive Actions are a case in point.
Yes, we've always had massive immigration and been a better nation for it; but today we have illegal immigrants breaching our border and a president who turns a blind eye, even aids it, because of political pressure and a desire for political votes. Obama's Executive Actions are a case in point.
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You forget the inconvenient fact that in those days, immigrants were not coming for the free goodies. They actually had to work and make their way. Big difference. Now they come, as the article states, for a free lunch , a nice ride on the backs of the American workers. No trying to learn English, no assimilation to the rule of law, just feed me, educate me, heal me, let me be.
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