"Allies, antagonists and average Israelis have long struggled to understand just what Mr. Netanyahu, a deft political strategist, actually believes in..."
It is fascinating that most analyses by journalists and political professionals across the spectrum all seem to be groping for an explanation of Bibi's extremism. People just refuse to believe what he has bluntly told them about himself and his intentions. Nor can people believe that the majority of the Israeli electorate is in lock step with their leader.
His admission of duplicity in the Palestinian statehood negotiations; his crass dismissal of the President's disinvitation to speak in Congress; his finger-wagging, unsolicited advice about the Iranian nuclear negotiations; his total rejection of American diplomatic efforts for a two-state solution over many administrations; and his shrill alarm over Arabs (not just any voters) voting in large numbers against his agenda, are all so shocking that people just can't wrap their heads around it.
But people, believe it. Israel today has very little in common with the interests of a racially diverse, secular, war-weary and war-wary America that is slowly and painfully abandoning everything that Bibi and the Israeli public stand for. And Israel is committed to its relationship with the US only for the generous benefits that it gets with no expectation to give anything in return.
Believe it: it's time for America to abandon Israel.
It is fascinating that most analyses by journalists and political professionals across the spectrum all seem to be groping for an explanation of Bibi's extremism. People just refuse to believe what he has bluntly told them about himself and his intentions. Nor can people believe that the majority of the Israeli electorate is in lock step with their leader.
His admission of duplicity in the Palestinian statehood negotiations; his crass dismissal of the President's disinvitation to speak in Congress; his finger-wagging, unsolicited advice about the Iranian nuclear negotiations; his total rejection of American diplomatic efforts for a two-state solution over many administrations; and his shrill alarm over Arabs (not just any voters) voting in large numbers against his agenda, are all so shocking that people just can't wrap their heads around it.
But people, believe it. Israel today has very little in common with the interests of a racially diverse, secular, war-weary and war-wary America that is slowly and painfully abandoning everything that Bibi and the Israeli public stand for. And Israel is committed to its relationship with the US only for the generous benefits that it gets with no expectation to give anything in return.
Believe it: it's time for America to abandon Israel.
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I'm just a regular guy who happens to be a moderate Democrat. I also have been supportive of the state of Israel both in spirit and financially.
No more if the Israelis want to continue to elect a racist brutal George Bush clone then they are on their own as far as I am concerned.
But alas I am just a regular ordinary American guy.
No more if the Israelis want to continue to elect a racist brutal George Bush clone then they are on their own as far as I am concerned.
But alas I am just a regular ordinary American guy.
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I've never understood the term "holyland"; that one piece of the earth is more hallowed than any other can only be an imagined concept. I understand history and the idea of a "homeland", that a dislodged people want to return to what they consider theirs, but history is littered with such situations. When attachments are made religious, they are are essentially "fanaticism". Why do we still support fanaticism as if it is a right?
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Now that the sheep's clothing (we always knew it was sheep's clothing) is off the wolf, can we have a serious discussion of genuine American interests in the Middle East, our blanket support of Israel against our interests there and whether AIPAC, Adelson, and American evangelical Christians and the like get to dictate policy that undermines American interests in the Middle East?
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Once again Israel proves that it is its own worst enemy as moves to create exactly what it says it doesn't want.
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Israel proved nothing of the kind, 2-cents. Israel proved that it has a boundless will to survive. The Palestinians have blown too many chances...to many olive branches, two state solutions and gestures of diplomacy. Israel has bent over backwards to find solutions.
Even before Hamas. Have you forgotten the Palestinian determination to annihilate my people, or like so many others, is it just that your view is skewed?
43 years ago hooded murderers broke onto the dorms of our olympic atheletes as they slept in their beds, and they murdered them. These groups...these infidel extremists calling themselves Muslims (They are not real MusIims. I can assure you, they are little more than hateful, frustrated losers)...have committed unthinkable attrocities. Flying commercial airliners into skyscrpers filled with innocents? Beheading innocent men, women, and children? ,,,the wholesale slaughter of innocents!?! Burning people alive?
Israel will not be fooled or put itself, again, in harm's way. Never. I would take the justice, love for life and learning, and the quiet progress of my people over the backward, oppressive, self-righteous, uber-sanctimonious, murderous (...their own children!!!...they use their own children as bombs!!!...) of the extremists who only want to destroy. Who only hate.
Even before Hamas. Have you forgotten the Palestinian determination to annihilate my people, or like so many others, is it just that your view is skewed?
43 years ago hooded murderers broke onto the dorms of our olympic atheletes as they slept in their beds, and they murdered them. These groups...these infidel extremists calling themselves Muslims (They are not real MusIims. I can assure you, they are little more than hateful, frustrated losers)...have committed unthinkable attrocities. Flying commercial airliners into skyscrpers filled with innocents? Beheading innocent men, women, and children? ,,,the wholesale slaughter of innocents!?! Burning people alive?
Israel will not be fooled or put itself, again, in harm's way. Never. I would take the justice, love for life and learning, and the quiet progress of my people over the backward, oppressive, self-righteous, uber-sanctimonious, murderous (...their own children!!!...they use their own children as bombs!!!...) of the extremists who only want to destroy. Who only hate.
This isn't "rocket science", no pun intended.
If Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, Iraq, the 10 Gulf States, Libya, Lebanon and Turkey recognize Israel's right to exist and rescind their constitutions call for the death of all the worlds Jews, then there will be peace.
Unless and until that happens, don't expect for Israel to return any land it won in half a dozen formal wars of annihilation directed against the State of Israel, unless of course you'd expect to buy a bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan.
If Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, Iran, Iraq, the 10 Gulf States, Libya, Lebanon and Turkey recognize Israel's right to exist and rescind their constitutions call for the death of all the worlds Jews, then there will be peace.
Unless and until that happens, don't expect for Israel to return any land it won in half a dozen formal wars of annihilation directed against the State of Israel, unless of course you'd expect to buy a bridge connecting Brooklyn and Manhattan.
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What's wrong with this picture?
When our enemy, Russia, seizes land, US reaction: sanctions.
When our friend, Israel, seizes land, US reaction: eh...
When our enemy, Russia, seizes land, US reaction: sanctions.
When our friend, Israel, seizes land, US reaction: eh...
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Israel's Jews voted for land theft, stolen water, occupation and oppression of Pals for 60+ YEARS. What can go wrong?
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One can only hope, that this "Great Victory", will not encourage Republican candidates in our upcoming presidential election to "Beast" to the right, but odds are they will – the Republicans have a substantial crop Ultra Rightist fruit hanging from their party tree, that is ripe for the harvest.
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Maybe this, maybe that. Maybe he will walk back his statement about a Palestinian state, but maybe he won't. Maybe he will release the taxes, maybe he won't. What does that tell us? Could we not have said the same of Mr. Herzog? Sad that after an election, people don't know what a politician intends, but isn't that the usual situation? We just accept that they will lie to or mislead us as if it just par for the course.
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Complete fool/loaded with ego.
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After Netanyahu admitted that Israel is a double-dealing, phony peace negotiator he now needs to form a government thick and resilient enough to take a record amount of body blows from the international community.
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You mean from Hamas, and Hezbollah?
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the PM's statement that there will never be a Palestinian state is long overdue.
Perhaps it will force PLO, which has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity in peace talks to come to the table, hat in hand, fully understanding the window is closed, but just might be reopened if they come down to Planet Earth with their agenda.
Perhaps it will force PLO, which has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity in peace talks to come to the table, hat in hand, fully understanding the window is closed, but just might be reopened if they come down to Planet Earth with their agenda.
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naw; both sides just going to double down on stupid; best plan is to airlift out all the women on both sides and see if that ancient strategy works....
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"Analysts said Mr. Netanyahu would undoubtedly continue his strong opposition to the Iranian nuclear program, but might well limit settlement construction and make other gestures to soothe the Palestinian situation..."
To soothe the Palestinian situation....
Yes, now I do believe I've seen it all.
(Was that by committee? Because there's a rule in film-watching: the more the screenwriting credits, the bigger the mess the film.)
To soothe the Palestinian situation....
Yes, now I do believe I've seen it all.
(Was that by committee? Because there's a rule in film-watching: the more the screenwriting credits, the bigger the mess the film.)
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Palestine, and its supporters, will undoubtedly see no further reason to negotiate. I can't blame them. I hate to think what will come next.
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Netanyahu has nuclear weapons.
This singular fact, and danger, should be discussed much more often in American media. Instead, this fact is hardly broached, nor is the fact that Israel refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
I believe Netanyahu is a dangerous man who could bomb Iran, provoking a legal retaliation by Iran, providing an excuse for Israel to use nukes or, at least, smaller tactical nukes. I also believe the leaders to Netanyahu's right, those who will inherit leadership someday soon are even more dangerous.
Perhaps this is a discussion we in America should have now. A Nuclear-Free Middle East is the best solution. The American media isn't, but should, make this idea front and center, when they discuss Iran or Israel. Not discussing it is doing Netanyahu a favor and making our future much more dangerous.
This singular fact, and danger, should be discussed much more often in American media. Instead, this fact is hardly broached, nor is the fact that Israel refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.
I believe Netanyahu is a dangerous man who could bomb Iran, provoking a legal retaliation by Iran, providing an excuse for Israel to use nukes or, at least, smaller tactical nukes. I also believe the leaders to Netanyahu's right, those who will inherit leadership someday soon are even more dangerous.
Perhaps this is a discussion we in America should have now. A Nuclear-Free Middle East is the best solution. The American media isn't, but should, make this idea front and center, when they discuss Iran or Israel. Not discussing it is doing Netanyahu a favor and making our future much more dangerous.
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So, now the obama admin is contemplating sanctions against Isreal. Honestly, is it that much of an ask for the POTUS to have learned something, just one thing, during his last 6yrs in our WH? He came to the role with a set of views a a very Jr Senator/community organizer and he is still embracing them while the world is dynamic. Am sure that this will not get posted, but if it does, I wimply wnat to ask libs to please open your eyes and your brains to make decisions for our future.
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Why are you spreading rumors....there are no plans to sanction Israel and Obama's administration made that clear
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Israel doesn't want peace.
It wants all of Palestine, and merely seeks political cover for the max expulsion [for a second time] of the indigenous people.
All else is theatre and Zionist hasbara.
It wants all of Palestine, and merely seeks political cover for the max expulsion [for a second time] of the indigenous people.
All else is theatre and Zionist hasbara.
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so is it official now?
has Israel decided it will embrace being a theocracy?
has Israel decided it will embrace being a theocracy?
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Netanyahu and the Israeli voters apparently have made the ultimate decision regarding Palestine and an Arab State; stating once and for all to hear, "there will be no two state solution"! While new spin stated here "People close to him have already suggested that he meant only that current conditions in the region and the attitude of the Palestinian leadership make a state unrealistic now." should not allow for the corporate media to alter his pronouncement, it should alert the world to more fantasy on Israel's part regarding an solution to the Palestinian crisis and in fact, establish a formal apartheid State in the Middle East. This election may go down in history as the beginning of the end of the democratic State of Israel! What a sad legacy for democracy's fight against criminal regimes worldwide!
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Here I am at age sixty-seven. I was eleven when I say the film Exodus and cheered for the Israelis in their fight to establish a nation. In the mid sixties, going to Jesuit High School, I learned of the holocaust and the despair of the Europeon Jews just twenty years removed. Such revulsion. Throughout my life, I always believed in a two state nation and supported Israel without hesitation. Imagine how I feel now: no sense of truth in Israel today should they elect a platform filled with apartheid and prejudice. Disappointment does not suffice. This has caused me to question my entire life perspective on the issue. I do not support the Israeli PM. Simple as that. I urge Israel to redirect the course of their nation. The subject of terrorism is really not germane to this discussion. Everyone, including the Palestinians, deserve human rights and security.
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@capedad: I remember being in 7th grade and walking to school with a friend. I was reading Exodus and had just seen the Paul Newman movie and I had already studied the holocaust (I was a very serious child). My friend, a devout christian, told me how much she hated the jews for crucifying christ. We got into quite the argument as I defended Israel.
I am sad that I can no longer defend the Israelis. Mr. Netanyahu has ended any support I have ever felt for Israel. I am not an anti-Semite. I am definitely anti-Israeli and I want America's politicians to stop acting like Israel is more important than the people here. They work for Israel. None dare call out Israel. Blah blah blah. I am sick of it. Israel needs to change and we need to stop giving them aid until they do.
I am sad that I can no longer defend the Israelis. Mr. Netanyahu has ended any support I have ever felt for Israel. I am not an anti-Semite. I am definitely anti-Israeli and I want America's politicians to stop acting like Israel is more important than the people here. They work for Israel. None dare call out Israel. Blah blah blah. I am sick of it. Israel needs to change and we need to stop giving them aid until they do.
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"The subject of terrorism is really not germane to this discussion?" Absolutely incorrect! It fact it is the entire basis of the "discussion" which many simply fail to understand...
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The ascendant right-wings of America and Isreal are shackled together by AIPAC. They will cut taxes for the very rich, increase military spending, start another very big war and pay for it by cutting every protection that middle class and poor people have from our governments. It is no accident that Isreal and the USA have the greatest wealth inequity in the so-called "civilized" world.
I was 12 when I saw Exodus.
I was 12 when I saw Exodus.
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It has long been clear that Netanyahu had no intention of establishing a viable Palestinian state. The continued expansion of illegal settlements on Palestinian land, restrictions on Palestinian access to water, the restriction on Palestinian movement (including access to farm their own land), and numerous other human rights abuses are ample evidence that Israel is determined to keep Palestinians in a permanent state of misery, poverty, and dependence. None of this should come as a surprise. What I cannot understand is why the United States continues to enable these actions through financial and military aid.
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We have no allies in the Middle East and we don't need any. Let's not waste our dollars on them when we dearly need them here at home; let's not sacrifice the lives of our soldiers for causes that are not ours. It's time to abandon the Middle East completely and let them sort out their problems on their own. Let's kick out all congress members that want to send even a single dollar to the Middle East.
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Congratulations Bibi! Netanyahu, unlike Obama is a pragmatist who with some prodding with from his coalition partners may well surprise the wordl. He is right that the time for a peace deal with the palestinians is not now as they are the ones who have been infleixible and inflammatory. They have never accepted or proposed viable peace terms. The naive do not understand and the anti-semitic will always blame Israel.The p[ropose deal with Iran must included verififcation even of unknown sights and the sunsey clause is ridiculous.
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Why doesn´t israel accept the Arab League Peace Initiative and put an end of this stupid bloodshed once for all.
The Arab League Peace proposal of 2002 is the most honest for all and will end Israel’s isolation.
"Israel needs to look hard at this initiative, which promises Israel peace with 22 Arab nations and 35 Muslim nations - a total of 57 nations that are standing and waiting for the possibility of making peace with Israel, “Kerry said.
The Arab League Peace proposal of 2002 is the most honest for all and will end Israel’s isolation.
"Israel needs to look hard at this initiative, which promises Israel peace with 22 Arab nations and 35 Muslim nations - a total of 57 nations that are standing and waiting for the possibility of making peace with Israel, “Kerry said.
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Now we Americans must shift our position and change our votes and influence in the UN to provide the strongest possible support for Palestinian statehood. Thank you Bibi, you have given us the political freedom to do the right thing! At long last we can do the right thing!
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So are you implying that the Palestinians should establish there own state from which they can shell and fire rockets at Israel; PLEASE TELL ME WHAT ISRAEL HAS GAINED FROM RETURNING GAZA TO THE PALESTINIANS? Safety... not! World accolades.... certainly not! What do you think the reward will be for withdrawing to the 1967 boundaries... security and peace. Have you heard Abbas saying he is sworn to recognize the Jewish state of Israel and forsake arms and violence when Israel returns to the 1967 borders. Do you actually think Israel will for once and for all have stability and peace if the Palestinians had a state? Unfortunately, they will only be happy when Israel is in the sea.
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The UN already recognizes Palestinian statehood. The State of Palestine has held non-member observer state status since 2012 - the same status Switzerland had from 1948-2002.
When the Israeli settlers left Gaza, they destroyed everything except the greenhouses which America paid them to leave in tact. They continued to control the electricity, the water, sewage, airport, seaport, and air space. They continued to harass the Palestinians with night time raids, unjustified killings and shellings. The Palestinians out of desperation, turned to Hamas because of the corruption and lack of progress with Fatah. Israel responded by laying siege to Gaza with a blockade.
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This is yet another election in which the polls showed a virtual tie or incumbent behind, yet the outcome was not reflective of that. Why are these polls so consistently erroneous?
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William P--Because voters lie when they exit the poll. I think they are ashamed of their votes. And, most of the time, they should be.
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@William Park: My first thought after hearing the news was 'how easy to rig the voting machines'. How could the polls and the results be so different? It doesn't make sense. I don't trust Netanyahu any more than I do Karl Rove. Remember how shocked Rove was at the Hamilton County, Ohio results? He literally could not believe it. Why? Because he thought he had the outcome pre-determined. Who in America OR Israel can believe election results anymore?
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Congratulations are due for this fair appraisal of the recent Israeli elections. It appears that the government that Prime Minister Netanyahu will cobble together after some hard bargaining will be what we would call "centrist." This result cuts against the "Bibi is a right wing fanatic, warmonger etc." meme that persists even in some of the comments here, but that is the reality.
As to how this will affect US-Israeli relations, the answer is minimally, because it is not a personal alliance between our President and the Israeli Prime Minister. The U.S. depends on Israel to keep tensions from boiling over in its part of the region (the alternative being US troops going in which no one wants) and benefits from its technology and intelligence prowess.
Prime Minister Netanyahu could offer to negotiate all issues, without precondition, with any Palestinian Arab leader holding a legal electoral mandate to negotiate with him. It just so happens, no such person currently exists. Abbas is already five years beyond his lawful term of office. If Palestine wants to pretend it's a "state," let it hold elections as required by their own laws.
As to how this will affect US-Israeli relations, the answer is minimally, because it is not a personal alliance between our President and the Israeli Prime Minister. The U.S. depends on Israel to keep tensions from boiling over in its part of the region (the alternative being US troops going in which no one wants) and benefits from its technology and intelligence prowess.
Prime Minister Netanyahu could offer to negotiate all issues, without precondition, with any Palestinian Arab leader holding a legal electoral mandate to negotiate with him. It just so happens, no such person currently exists. Abbas is already five years beyond his lawful term of office. If Palestine wants to pretend it's a "state," let it hold elections as required by their own laws.
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"As to how this will affect US-Israeli relations, the answer is minimally, because it is not a personal alliance between our President and the Israeli Prime Minister."
Exactly. Which American should care that the prime minister of Israel likes nothing more than repeatedly spitting in the US president's face?
Exactly. Which American should care that the prime minister of Israel likes nothing more than repeatedly spitting in the US president's face?
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Shouldn't we be able to rein in our 51st state a bit?
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May I offer up a micro analogy in defense of Israel? If the neighbors surrounding your house had publicly declared for decades that they wanted to destroy you, your children and and your grandparents, would you let a family of them move into the ground floor bedroom of your own home?
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You mean even if you got there Last, moved into a neighborhood that was already settled with people unlike you? That' an interesting point of view.
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Thank you for that "micro analogy" because we're all too limited to consider the real issues.
Now consider this one: If you stole your neighbors' land, treated them like animals for the last 70 years, and responded to their thugs by killing their innocents, would you expect them to like you?
Now consider this one: If you stole your neighbors' land, treated them like animals for the last 70 years, and responded to their thugs by killing their innocents, would you expect them to like you?
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Last? Tell that one to Moses and King Solomon.
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At the end of the day Israelis didn't want to make the same mistake that the Americans made back in 2008 by electing an untried inexperienced neophyte politician as their leader . The stakes for are way too high and failure is an option that Israel can't afford to take. Better to be safe than dead.
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Tziporah "Tzipi" Livni is no neophyte and the premise of your comment is, at best, specious.
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If the candidate with "experience" (McCain) was elected in 2008 then in how many countries would our troops be fighting today with "boots on the ground"? I can count at least 8 and possibly many more:
1) Iraq
2) Afghanistan
3) Syria
4) Iran
5) Nigeria
6) Yemen
7) Libya
8) Ukraine
1) Iraq
2) Afghanistan
3) Syria
4) Iran
5) Nigeria
6) Yemen
7) Libya
8) Ukraine
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Israel is our ally in the Middle East and because they didn't vote in line with what our President wants many of the posters here think that's reason to drop them.
As far as Iran's nuclear power ambitions go Iran should go with more passive
power like windmills and solar energy. We don't even want new nuclear plants in this country so why are we negotiating with Iran to have it?
As far as Iran's nuclear power ambitions go Iran should go with more passive
power like windmills and solar energy. We don't even want new nuclear plants in this country so why are we negotiating with Iran to have it?
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@BP: And another suggestion, besides windmills, etc. is that Israel acknowledge and give up it's nuclear weapons. Why we're supporting this lie, I do not understand. How about a little honesty here?
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Can we please stop subsidizing this crazyness - to the tune of $3 billion annually ?
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This is Netanyahu's victory, the world's loss. Peace took a backseat to his ambitions, and racism found a friend in him, during the last desperate hours of his re-eletion. Israel will continue
it's exchange of fear, attacks, with Palestinians, because he has slowly undermined Israeli hope in the peace process, and now the world's.
it's exchange of fear, attacks, with Palestinians, because he has slowly undermined Israeli hope in the peace process, and now the world's.
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Netanyahu is in the mold of such opportunistic politicians as Richard Nixon and Silvio Berlusconi. They debase the democratic traditions of their countries by appealing to the irrational elements of the electorate. Sometimes, however, they can effect major change, such as Nixon's opening to communist China, by going back on everything they stood for in the past.
Would Netanyahu do that? It would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.
Would Netanyahu do that? It would be nice, but I won't hold my breath.
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I do understand the stance of Netanyahyu and his followers ---he and his people are living in a very dangerous neighborhood--which seems to get more dangerous by the day. But the question I keep asking myself is what is the end game for Mr. Netanyahyu and his country? Does he believe that an all out throw down war with Iran or whatever coalition of the bad could develop in that region will finally bring peace to his country? Our recent adventures in the region would tell us, that this doesn't work and in fact will matters worse. However arduous the peace process maybe, it really is the only game in town. I understand that both sides mistrust each other, and tragically, would like to see the opposing country disappear---that is the reality. The only avenue for changing that reality is for each side to get to know each other and that means, a continuing conversation on how to make the region work --- that is the only feasible end-game.
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This is a major blow to the lame duck sitting in the White House and his ineffectual Sec. of State. Barring his death, Netanyahu will be a sitting head of state long after Obama leaves office. He can thumb his nose at a US President who has been accused (rightfully) of being an Muslim sympathizer. The next President, be it Jeb or Hilary, will be much more amenable to Bibi's policies. Bottom line: Netanyahu is one of the world's most senior and savvy statesman and a force to be reckoned with in global politics.
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this is a major blow to Israel's long standing claim of being the only democracy in the region.
with this election Israel has embraced apartheid and theocracy.
with this election Israel has embraced apartheid and theocracy.
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This article is a complete embarrassment. Netanyahu prepares for his fourth term having: 1.) Expanded Israeli settlements in the occupied territories. This is a strategy of creating "facts on the ground" to prevent Palestinian sovereignty; 2.) Authorized hugely disproportionate Gaza bombing campaigns (scandalizing most of the world and in fact much of the US polity); 3.) Pledged in the recent campaign to never allow the founding of a Palestinian state; 4.) Campaigned in a bigoted and openly anti-Arab manner, sowing nationalist resentment and hatred.
Yet Jodi Rudoren writes that the future is a "mystery."
There is no mystery. In fact, the truth is clearer than ever. Only a select few such as Rudoren pretend they do not know the basic intentions and strategies of this government.
Yet Jodi Rudoren writes that the future is a "mystery."
There is no mystery. In fact, the truth is clearer than ever. Only a select few such as Rudoren pretend they do not know the basic intentions and strategies of this government.
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Analysis of Israel's election which declares Netanyahu freer to seek less doctrinaire policies, greater mobility to pursue peace, is absurd and duplicitous. His statement about resisting a two-state solution condemns Israel--and his leadership--to the opprobrium of humankind, with the grisly attack on Gaza itself marking both as engaging in WAR CRIMES. Yet by his election, the Israeli people--knowing Netanyahu's declaration rejecting a two-state solution, and his further allusion to racism by disparaging Arab-Israeli citizens' electoral activity--have shown to the world an uncompromising, xenophobic, militaristic people unworthy of Judaism and the Torah.
What a denigration of the memory of the Holocaust, this Nazi-like bludgeoning of the Palestinians. Have Israelis abandon all conscience? sunk into a self-serving mode of denial? believed it possible that through sheer power and force they could assert dominance in face of the moral law? What is happening to my beloved Judaism? to the teachings about welcoming the stranger, about reaching out to the dispossessed? Judaism is DISGRACED by Israel's policies of internal colonialism and contempt for the treatment of fellow humans.
Anti-Semitism will rise in Europe and the rest of the world because of Israel's conduct, a burden on world Jewry because of the falsification of Jewish values and time-honored record of siding with the innocent, the deprived, the underdog. Netanyahu at the Wailing Wall is an act of impiety.
What a denigration of the memory of the Holocaust, this Nazi-like bludgeoning of the Palestinians. Have Israelis abandon all conscience? sunk into a self-serving mode of denial? believed it possible that through sheer power and force they could assert dominance in face of the moral law? What is happening to my beloved Judaism? to the teachings about welcoming the stranger, about reaching out to the dispossessed? Judaism is DISGRACED by Israel's policies of internal colonialism and contempt for the treatment of fellow humans.
Anti-Semitism will rise in Europe and the rest of the world because of Israel's conduct, a burden on world Jewry because of the falsification of Jewish values and time-honored record of siding with the innocent, the deprived, the underdog. Netanyahu at the Wailing Wall is an act of impiety.
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Your comments are always spot-on, Mr. Pollack. I have always enjoyed your writing!
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Very well put. Excellent post. thank you.
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Very well put. Excellent, I would say. Thank you.
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this discussion reminds me of dysfunctional family dynamics, where too much attention is paid to the problem child. The U.S. has lavished money, attention and support on Israel. In return they have gotten a man whose word is not to be trusted (maybe two state solution, maybe not) and interference in our domestic situation, aided and abetted by the Republicans. We need to distance ourselves from this situation. Fine, the military and the security people talk. Fine, maybe there are case by case situations we can agree on. But to continue to let this state essentially claim that they control internal U.S. policy and our outlook on the rest of world is the height of folly and dangerous. Israel has clearly stated the direction they want to go in. If they decide to "change" their minds who wants to trust them? Finally, I find it increasingly obnoxious that everything in the world is Barak Obama's fault. If President Obama got up tomorrow and said that there are other things to deal with besides the double talk coming out of Israel, I would say great. Keep it up.
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At some point, even a country with as slavish a devotion to Israel as our's must begin to question its commitment. After 66 years, countless billions in aid, unlimited non-monetary and philosophical support, what have we achieved outside of alienating the balance of the Middle East and providing the world's largest petri dish for the growth of extremism? Israel cannot be continue to operate with impunity. If they do, they should do so on their own.
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Why wait? Israel has already shown itself as no friend of America. I am disgusted by their policies and belligerence. Israel does nothing for America, and expects us to back them up no matter what. Sorry, disrespect is now how you keep friends. I am over any friendship with Israel.
I call for no more American taxpayer support for Israel starting TODAY!.
I call for no more American taxpayer support for Israel starting TODAY!.
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The real question is how much will it cost us (US) for this worthless piece of real estate in North Africa?
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Pedantic of me, but: Israel is not located in North Africa. It's part of the Arabian peninsula.
No man--or nation--is an island. The most dangerous belief among nations or peoples is that they are exceptional and that they are furthermore exceptionally superior and therefore above the law. American exceptionalism has its counterparts, outstandingly, in the British Isles, the island nation of Japan and Israel. Following World War II, in recognition of the unprecedented, nightmarish, global blood bath that had taken place and of the impossibility of large scale war in a nuclear age, hope turned to the United Nations. The threat of a unilateral bombing run on nuclear facilities in Iran by either Israel or the United States, the lingering threat posed by both nations, an insane act that would reap wholesale chaos, can only be checked by a renewed commitment by the other nations of the world to live by international standards of decency and make their "betters" do the same. Preclude the bullying and the bluster of leaders of exceptional nations and they will be forced to enter into agreements as equals with their fellow men and women.
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Once again the ugly face of Chicago-style politics rears up in the Obama Administration as he surreptitiously tries to undermine the candidacy of Netanyahu's party during Israel’s elections. Then he has the nerve to suggest Netanyahu's being invited to speak the truth to the U.S. Congress and us, is political.
The most secretive, non-transparent Administration ever, blew it once again. And now, caught again with is pants down, Obama is to much of a baby to call and congratulate Bibi….maybe he knows that would just be too much hypocrisy even for him.
The most secretive, non-transparent Administration ever, blew it once again. And now, caught again with is pants down, Obama is to much of a baby to call and congratulate Bibi….maybe he knows that would just be too much hypocrisy even for him.
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Not that you may wish to, but if you were to recall, it was Obama himself who was the one to tried to keep Bibi's lecture series to us here in the US nonpolitical by refusing to meet with him -- as he wouldn't with any other foreign leader in the midst of their reelection campaign at home -- specifically to keep it from turning into a political event and a implied endorsement of that candidate.
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And how would you characterize his underhanded attempt to undermine Netanyahu's campaign by lending his political advisor and funding the non-profit that was helping the opposition? So he didn't want to help, but he sure as heck tried to derail the reelection bid. Wonder how he'd have perceived that during his reelection bid????
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Our closest ally! To what end?
I can not fathom why billions in American aid continues to flow to Israel decade after decade, a prosperous and stable democracy that ranks in the top 20% of nations in terms of GDP. Israel ranks 11th in terms of its relative military power (discounting nuclear capability) according to the GFP, just below Germany, Turkey, and Japan.
America seems totally incapable of having an open and forthright conversations about this ever more lopsided and uncanny relationship.
I can not fathom why billions in American aid continues to flow to Israel decade after decade, a prosperous and stable democracy that ranks in the top 20% of nations in terms of GDP. Israel ranks 11th in terms of its relative military power (discounting nuclear capability) according to the GFP, just below Germany, Turkey, and Japan.
America seems totally incapable of having an open and forthright conversations about this ever more lopsided and uncanny relationship.
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I'd suggest you take a look at a map, see if you can identify any friendly nations around Israel, then see if you can identify any nations that advocate their utter destruction...then consider those nations' foreign policy, support for terrorism in one form or another, then contemplate why the U.S. might support Israel. It's not that hard.
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Yeah, Israel/Netan-Yahoo is doing a stellar job of defeating terrorism. Cut them loose. They have nothing valuable to offer us.
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So, your philosophy is: "What can you do for me today?"
The reelection of Netanyahu could have the opposite effect than Israeli's suppose, insuring a nuclear Iran. There are only two choices to the threat the Iranians pose, détente or war. If the current talks fall apart it is unlikely Russia and China will support further sanctions and it may be hard to get Europe onboard with tougher ones, so the idea that you can use sanctions to bring Iran around is a myth. Selective airstrikes will never stop Iran and since Israel can't go to war with a Muslim Nation without uniting the whole region against it, the US will have to go to war for it and Obama will never go to war for Netanyahu. The American people will support Obama because they don't want another war anymore than he does. Therefore, if Netanyahu and Republicans in the Senate succeed in nixing a deal with Iran, she will have no choice but to rush to get a weapon by 2016 when a newly elected Republican President may decide to attack them.
The only alternative to war is a deal that delays Iran’s quest for the bomb and allows us to monitor their use of nuclear materials as a first step in a détente with them. A rapprochement with Iran could lead to their abandonment of nuclear weapons, lessen their support for terrorism and make them less of an existential threat to Israel. So, that's the choice peace or war, Détente with Iran or continue to demonize them and bring about another war.
The only alternative to war is a deal that delays Iran’s quest for the bomb and allows us to monitor their use of nuclear materials as a first step in a détente with them. A rapprochement with Iran could lead to their abandonment of nuclear weapons, lessen their support for terrorism and make them less of an existential threat to Israel. So, that's the choice peace or war, Détente with Iran or continue to demonize them and bring about another war.
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Sorry to say, the wrong message has been sent to the American People by the voters of Israel.
Netanyahyu was a compete disaster in his first go around as PM. He has been a disaster the last two terms and he will be a diaster in his next term.
To prevernt any further incursions of our military into the mideast, Americans will have to start taking measures into their our own hands. Our Government must recongnize a Palestinian state of some kind. If our goverment will not, then we the people need to start a boycott of all Israeli businesses.
Netanyahyu was a compete disaster in his first go around as PM. He has been a disaster the last two terms and he will be a diaster in his next term.
To prevernt any further incursions of our military into the mideast, Americans will have to start taking measures into their our own hands. Our Government must recongnize a Palestinian state of some kind. If our goverment will not, then we the people need to start a boycott of all Israeli businesses.
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The White House ought to take a note of the following 94 of history during which both the international community and the State of Israel have made peace offers, proposals, gestures and opportunities, all of which have been categorically rejected by those Mr. Obama is eager to appease:
1920, San Remo conference decisions, rejected
1922, League of Nations decisions, rejected
1924, Anglo-American Treaty, rejected
1937, Peel Commission proposal, rejected
1947, UN General Assembly proposal, rejected
1948, Israel's stretched out arm for peace, rejected
1967, Israel's stretched out arm for peace, rejected
1978, Begin/Saadat peace proposal, rejected
1995, Rabin's peace contour, rejected
2000, Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected
2005, Sharon's peace opportunity, rejected
2008, Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected
2009 to present, Netanjahu's invitation to peace talks, rejected
The common denominator of all of these rejections has been the explicit or implicit requirement of the Arabs to accept the right of a sovereign nation-state of the Jewish people on a portion of the Jewish people's homeland. This they have not been able to accept, neither in the past nor in the present. But, Mr. Obama, being Mr. Obama, blames the Jews of course.
1920, San Remo conference decisions, rejected
1922, League of Nations decisions, rejected
1924, Anglo-American Treaty, rejected
1937, Peel Commission proposal, rejected
1947, UN General Assembly proposal, rejected
1948, Israel's stretched out arm for peace, rejected
1967, Israel's stretched out arm for peace, rejected
1978, Begin/Saadat peace proposal, rejected
1995, Rabin's peace contour, rejected
2000, Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected
2005, Sharon's peace opportunity, rejected
2008, Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected
2009 to present, Netanjahu's invitation to peace talks, rejected
The common denominator of all of these rejections has been the explicit or implicit requirement of the Arabs to accept the right of a sovereign nation-state of the Jewish people on a portion of the Jewish people's homeland. This they have not been able to accept, neither in the past nor in the present. But, Mr. Obama, being Mr. Obama, blames the Jews of course.
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Spare us the self-righteous and scurrilous accusations of anti-Semitism on the part of our president. Accusing someone of bigotry when one's own personal feelings are so thinly veiled is hardly a convincing argument.
Frankly, Americans are sick and tired of having to continue cashing blank checks to Israel's, as you yourself put it, "stretched out arm". Israel has made her choice of how as a country she intends to move forward. As a sovereign nation, the United States reserves the same right. Don't be too surprised if you don't like it.
Frankly, Americans are sick and tired of having to continue cashing blank checks to Israel's, as you yourself put it, "stretched out arm". Israel has made her choice of how as a country she intends to move forward. As a sovereign nation, the United States reserves the same right. Don't be too surprised if you don't like it.
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Ah yes, the good ole anti-semite card. The problem isn't that your country just decisively elected as its leader a war criminal, pathological liar, and unabashed bigot. The problem is that Barach Obama hates Jews.
And by the way, to misrepresent complex issues and motivations to defame an entire people ("the Arabs"), why that's bigotry too.
And by the way, to misrepresent complex issues and motivations to defame an entire people ("the Arabs"), why that's bigotry too.
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Shriber does have something of a point in that almost all Arab nations (18 out of the 22 members of the Arab League) still do not and have never recognized Israel as a state. Saying that "the Arabs" do not accept the right of Israel to exist isn't completely untrue; some of them do, but many Arab nations do not.
Perhaps now is the time for the US to change the game for the Israelis by recognizing Palestine as a separate state and stopping the Israeli settlement plans by defending the Palestinians against the Israeli marauders. There was a time when I thought the Israelis were on the side of the angels and all of the Leon Uris drivel in Exodus ... but no more. The Palestinians are no angels but they are definitely the downtrodden compared to the Israelis.
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I'm surprised to see some comments demanding that the US should withdraw it's blanket support of Israel. The congress we elected just invited Netanyahu to give a speech, over one quarter of his speech consisted of standing ovations.
Our government is in bad relationship with the Israeli government but yet we still provide them with military and political support at multiple levels. It's our government who vetoed the Palestinian statehood bid at UN Security Council, and they would do it again if they have to. This is a fact, we have no control of our relationship with Israel. Not us and not Obama.
Our government is in bad relationship with the Israeli government but yet we still provide them with military and political support at multiple levels. It's our government who vetoed the Palestinian statehood bid at UN Security Council, and they would do it again if they have to. This is a fact, we have no control of our relationship with Israel. Not us and not Obama.
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It's AIPAC's undue influence and money that buys the politicians unwavering support. Take an objective poll of all Americans and you might find a different result
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In Oct. 2012 President Obama congratulated Hugo Chavez a socialist dictator on his "win" for President of Venezuela. Since the standards are pretty low, he can at least acknowledge and congratulate Bibi. What an infant.
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Suppose it was Hugo Chavez who committed the diplomatic equivalent of spitting in the U.S. President's face, then went ahead and won his election, and then the U.S. President offered Chavez "congratulations" in response to public pressure. Imagine the howls of derision - calling the President "wimp" and worse - by the right that would ensue.
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Those who say it's up to President "Obama to mend ties" are being unAmerican. Netanyahu was most disrespectful to Americans, to President Obama and to the leaders of the other countries working to garner world peace and avoid world war. Netanyahu has demonstrated himself to be an untrustworthy adversary. I am thrilled that President Obama has not called Netanyahu to congratulate him. I have your back, President Obama!
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How wrong can so many of these commentors be?
Netanyahu is just about the only Western style leader that is closest to most of the centers of the sponsors of international terrorism and America refuses to listen to him or to collaborate to thwart this growing threat that is on it´s way to their neighborhoods.
All these comments seem to be along lines of Netanyahu as a warmongering nut case and a politician who can´t be trusted to keep promises made rather than understanding that in large measure the electorate in Israel understand the reality of the threat they and their children have to live with every day and have determined that for their own security and survival a leader like Netanyahu is the preferred choice given their day to day realities.
Remove the constant threats of destruction and annihilation by Iran and others, the almost daily rocket attacks on parts of Israel and new leaders can be better received and elected by the Israelis.
Peacetime leaders are wonderful fantasies and in some parts of the world, (I am not quite sure where these days), these terrorism concerns and attacks are not as real as in other parts of the world and they can make the selection of a "dove" as a leader but, as the world is today, for most of it especially in Western societies, accept it or not, a major war is raging and that requires another type of leadership and in Israel I believe they made the right choice.
Netanyahu is just about the only Western style leader that is closest to most of the centers of the sponsors of international terrorism and America refuses to listen to him or to collaborate to thwart this growing threat that is on it´s way to their neighborhoods.
All these comments seem to be along lines of Netanyahu as a warmongering nut case and a politician who can´t be trusted to keep promises made rather than understanding that in large measure the electorate in Israel understand the reality of the threat they and their children have to live with every day and have determined that for their own security and survival a leader like Netanyahu is the preferred choice given their day to day realities.
Remove the constant threats of destruction and annihilation by Iran and others, the almost daily rocket attacks on parts of Israel and new leaders can be better received and elected by the Israelis.
Peacetime leaders are wonderful fantasies and in some parts of the world, (I am not quite sure where these days), these terrorism concerns and attacks are not as real as in other parts of the world and they can make the selection of a "dove" as a leader but, as the world is today, for most of it especially in Western societies, accept it or not, a major war is raging and that requires another type of leadership and in Israel I believe they made the right choice.
Netanyahu may be assured that there are many Americans, myself included, who fully support him, and who, unlike our president, congratulate you.
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Why not just force a Palestinian state on Israel, much as was done to the Palestinians when Israel was established?
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Has anyone noticed that the Palestinians freely elected Hamas as their government? Did anyone notice that Hamas has themselves vowed to eliminate Israel, thereby making a single state solution possible? Of course Israel would be eliminated and the problem would be eliminated. Obama would be happy. Granting them statehood would allow them to move their rockets closer to Israel. Is anyone stupid enough to believe that the Arabs want to live peacefully with Israel, even in a two state solution? All of the Middle East wars have ben started by them- not Israel. We may not like their politics, but they do what they have to in order to survive.
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Part of the Palestinians elected Hamas...in isolated and crowded Gaza which is more desperate with fewer services. West Bank on the other hand, did NOT elect Hamas, and has not fired rockets. Why was there failure to negotiate and stop building into the possible peace partner that could have shown Hamas there was a path towards resolution rather than the annihilation that they subscribe to and are subjected to? Israel DID start a war by European Jews moving en masse into Palestine without the consent of the people living there, but by the declaration from other countries that really did not have the right to do so, but also did not want a mass migration to their own countries (i.e. the US in particular by Henry Truman). Yes, actually some Arabs DO want to leave peacefully, and if peaceful overtures were gaining any ground the terrorists in Gaza might see the light and stop their activities. But Israel's security has far too long been an excuse to subject the Palestinian residents of this land to inhumane treatment and theft of territory.
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West Bank has not fired rockets because they don't have the ability to make rockets.
You have a problem with Jews moving to Palestine, but I bet you have no problem with the millions of illegal immigrants in the US.
You have a problem with Jews moving to Palestine, but I bet you have no problem with the millions of illegal immigrants in the US.
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Yes, the majority of the populace living in a region still reeling from a war/bombardment last year, voted for the strongest party in an election. Shocker.
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If the Iran deal falls apart, Obama will only have one goal in ME: not get directly involved in any war in there, maintain the minimum presence necessary for US security.
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How is 25% of the vote a clear mandate? Who is the main barrier to successful negotiations? If he has been lying about his desire for peace by establishing a two-state solution, why should we believe his statements, which have on many occasions proved to be false, about Iran? Can not Iran use his comments to their advantage in the negotiation talks?
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Wish we had as strong a leader as Bibi....one who puts us first and fights our enemies.
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I see you are into perpetual war and aggression. That's not strength.
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I'm afraid this article glossed over what I perceive to be the darkest lining to the results of this election and that is the reaction of the international community to the reinstatement of Netanyahu. Here in the US we tend to view world affairs through our own solipsistic prism. One can even see that in the debates on this thread with readers lining up to cheer or jeer the outcome of Israel's election largely according to our politics, not theirs. It is particularly ironic to see people using the opportunity to malign Obama for not supporting every whim of the belligerent PM's and yet imagining that when it comes to Israel whomever wins represents every single citizen in the entire country. That is preposterous.,
In fact, I am quite sure that although Netanyahu's party won a clear majority of seats, there are many citizens in Israel, as reported in their press, who are not supportive of Netanyahu's performance on the world stage and who are rightly concerned about the international response to his re-election. Dismissing the criticism of his refusal to engage in a peace process and his hysterical rhetoric about a deal that involves six countries not just the US as "anti-Semitic" is not a credible deflection. Yes, anti-Semitism exists and should be countered in the strongest terms, but that has nothing to do with Israel's increasing isolation.
In fact, I am quite sure that although Netanyahu's party won a clear majority of seats, there are many citizens in Israel, as reported in their press, who are not supportive of Netanyahu's performance on the world stage and who are rightly concerned about the international response to his re-election. Dismissing the criticism of his refusal to engage in a peace process and his hysterical rhetoric about a deal that involves six countries not just the US as "anti-Semitic" is not a credible deflection. Yes, anti-Semitism exists and should be countered in the strongest terms, but that has nothing to do with Israel's increasing isolation.
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If I am not mistaken, the Palestinians are also Semites. All forms of anti-Semitism should be condemned and countered as strongly as possible. This should include territorial expansion and all racist rhetoric and actions. It is time for the US to cut Israel loose. Let's rebuild our crumbling country and let the Israelis find their own way.
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I agree with you. In fact, scientists have found the genetic similarities in both populations, which says a great deal about the real sources of conflict -- power and land, rationalized by references to various ancient religious tracts. I also agree that our government should rethink our policies when it comes to supporting Israel unconditionally. While it is appropriate for us to consider Israel, a functioning democracy, our ally in, to use their language, an existential sense, there is no reason why our relationship with them should differ from our relationship with any of our other allies when it comes to providing support. One could even go so far as to say that blindly supporting Israel's every move on the international stage is not only counter productive when it comes to protecting our own interests, it is certainly not helping them when it comes to their relationship with the rest of the world or even their overall security. Friends don't let friends drive drunk and we have been doing that for far too long to their and our detriment.
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The "Palestinians" have never, and do not now, "favor" a "two state" solution; they seek the complete destruction of Israel and the annihilation of the Jews.
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I think what many pro-Netenyahu Jews (I am Jewish) don't understand is that we are a small minority in the U.S. There are only about 7 million of us out of more than 300 million U.S. citizens. In many areas there are no Jews at all and a lot of people, very understandably, are starting to question why we are expending all this effort for one tiny country far away? They have no identification with Israel and are looking at things much less emotionally, even if they think Israel is our only ally in the Middle East.
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I invite all to read Rabin's speech of 5 Oct 1995 at the Knesset; Rabin's political will in some ways, the last to be delivered at the Knesset before his untimely death. Four of the his points are as follows:
1. Jerusalem will remained united under Israel's sovereignty and will also include the suburbs of Giv'at Zeev and Ma'aleh Adumim and the areas connecting these suburbs to the capital city, e.g. area E1.
2. All Jewish settlement blocs will be incorporated into the sovereign state of Israel, including Gush Qatif in Gaza
3. The Jordan Valley in the widest sense of the term will remain under Israel's rule
4. The future Palestinian Arab entity will NOT be a state but rather a demilitarized autonomous area in which its airspace will continue to be controlled by Israel as well as its boundaries and all of its border passes: land, sea and air
Mr. Rabin, let us remember, was considered the "prince of peace" by people around the world for proposing precisely what the present prime minister of the State of Israel does.
P.S. Mr. Obama, please take a note of this reality!!
1. Jerusalem will remained united under Israel's sovereignty and will also include the suburbs of Giv'at Zeev and Ma'aleh Adumim and the areas connecting these suburbs to the capital city, e.g. area E1.
2. All Jewish settlement blocs will be incorporated into the sovereign state of Israel, including Gush Qatif in Gaza
3. The Jordan Valley in the widest sense of the term will remain under Israel's rule
4. The future Palestinian Arab entity will NOT be a state but rather a demilitarized autonomous area in which its airspace will continue to be controlled by Israel as well as its boundaries and all of its border passes: land, sea and air
Mr. Rabin, let us remember, was considered the "prince of peace" by people around the world for proposing precisely what the present prime minister of the State of Israel does.
P.S. Mr. Obama, please take a note of this reality!!
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P.P.S. Mr. Rabin's vision of peace was nearly identical to that of Israel's present prime minister, Mr. Netanjahu. Both have been eager to achieve an accommodation of peaceful coexistence with Israel's Arab neighbors but not at the expense of Israel's most vital national and security interests. My question is, why should Mr. Obama attempt to undermine Israel's most vital interests of a country that is an ally of the US and a liberal-democracy at that....??
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I would look at it the other way: Mr Rabin's position was as untenable as Netanyahu, and this explains why Israeli so-called "peace offers" have always been rejected by the Palestinians as nothing more than a Trojan Horse.
That has been the pattern: Israel takes a position that is more controlling than what the Allies imposed on Germany for several decades after WWII, that no self-respecting nation would accept, and then accuses the Palestinians as being intransigent.
That has been the pattern: Israel takes a position that is more controlling than what the Allies imposed on Germany for several decades after WWII, that no self-respecting nation would accept, and then accuses the Palestinians as being intransigent.
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And then isolates and pressures the Palestinians territorially, economically and politically until they rebel, and Israel uses this as pretext to crush them.
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Lets face it, nothing any Israeli Prime Minister has done in the past has stewarded a lasting peace in the Middle East.
So, why all the carping and grousing?
It's not like Hamas revoked the part of its Charter that called for the destruction of Israel, and jews, last week; or that the Palestinian Authority had cast its reconciliation with Hamas into doubt, either.
So, why all the carping and grousing?
It's not like Hamas revoked the part of its Charter that called for the destruction of Israel, and jews, last week; or that the Palestinian Authority had cast its reconciliation with Hamas into doubt, either.
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This is actually a boon for the U.S Presidential candidates. They can put the Middle East issue on hold in their campaign as far as Israel goes. The candidates can just say they will continue to talk. Netanyahu successfully kicked the can down the road until a successor comes along. With the problems his neighbors are having he can get away with his position. Too bad, the prophets aren't around these days to give advice to the leaders. If they were, Netanyahu may have acted differently.
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Fine, as long as all financial and military aid is stopped in the interim.
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Bibi has crossed and lied to the President and to the people of the United States. There has to be consequences--real consequences--for that. We should start by reversing course and by supporting the aspirations of the Palestinian people in the United Nations, just as we supported the legitimate aspirations of Israel there. We should support a declaration by the UN of a separate state for Israel.
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Excuse me, I meant in that last sentence "separate state for Palestine". I wish the NYT would add a way to review and then edit the draft of comments.
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Unfortunately,Myopic administration maneuvering will lead to a Disaster, and the prevailing conflict will continue. A shame on both side of this prevailing mess, in my opinion;-)
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Our closest ally? What an alliance; we give and they take!
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All this speculation about the "new" Netanyahu administration is meaningless. On the one issue of interest to the rest of the world his position is now crystal clear NO two state solution. End of story.
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An agreement by the US White House will be the latest, not the first, act of spitting at the fundamental elements of international law related to the Arab Israeli conflict and the way to resolve it.
He will act, again, contrary to the San Remo conference decisions, 1920, and the League of Nations decisions, 1922, both are part and parcel of international law.
He will turn his back at the Anglo-American Treaty, 1924, that reiterates the League of Nations decisions of 1922.
And, he will act contrary the UN Charter that adopted in 1945 the decisions of the League of Nations and etched them into its charter of that year.
Furthermore, Mr. Obama will go back on UN Security Council Resolution, 242, 1967, which has been the basis, by total consent, to all peace talks and actual treaties signed by the parties.
One wonders, what is the real motive of Obama's move....??!!
He will act, again, contrary to the San Remo conference decisions, 1920, and the League of Nations decisions, 1922, both are part and parcel of international law.
He will turn his back at the Anglo-American Treaty, 1924, that reiterates the League of Nations decisions of 1922.
And, he will act contrary the UN Charter that adopted in 1945 the decisions of the League of Nations and etched them into its charter of that year.
Furthermore, Mr. Obama will go back on UN Security Council Resolution, 242, 1967, which has been the basis, by total consent, to all peace talks and actual treaties signed by the parties.
One wonders, what is the real motive of Obama's move....??!!
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Without question the results will deeply disappoint President Obama and some European leaders, who were hoping Israelis would swap out an intractable “hawk” for a more flexible “dove,” one whom they assumed would pave the way for a quick final deal with Iran and hasten a two-state solution in the Holy Land before President Obama leaves office.
In reality however, there is no real distance between the left and the right over the existential threat posed by Iran. Israel’s next prime minister must come up with a plan to thwart Tehran, whose leaders continue to call for the Jewish State’s annihilation, from becoming a nuclear power.
Additionally, Jerusalem will be confronted with a new strategic threat from Iran and its Hezbollah terrorist lackeys whose brazen entrenchment on the Golan Heights has raised nary a peep from the U.S. or the European Union.
Even if Israel’s left had prevailed it is hard to imagine that a deal for a Two-State solution could be reached in the next two years. Hamas’ continuous terrorism and genocidal hate and the celebration by leaders of the PA of vicious terrorist outrages against Jews, have left most Israelis warily awaiting a Palestinian leader -- someone unlike PA President Abbas -- who would be ready to tell his constituents that their Jewish neighbors are there to stay and that the Jewish state has a legitimate right to be there.
In reality however, there is no real distance between the left and the right over the existential threat posed by Iran. Israel’s next prime minister must come up with a plan to thwart Tehran, whose leaders continue to call for the Jewish State’s annihilation, from becoming a nuclear power.
Additionally, Jerusalem will be confronted with a new strategic threat from Iran and its Hezbollah terrorist lackeys whose brazen entrenchment on the Golan Heights has raised nary a peep from the U.S. or the European Union.
Even if Israel’s left had prevailed it is hard to imagine that a deal for a Two-State solution could be reached in the next two years. Hamas’ continuous terrorism and genocidal hate and the celebration by leaders of the PA of vicious terrorist outrages against Jews, have left most Israelis warily awaiting a Palestinian leader -- someone unlike PA President Abbas -- who would be ready to tell his constituents that their Jewish neighbors are there to stay and that the Jewish state has a legitimate right to be there.
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Has anyone noticed that Abbas is over 80, has no succession plan for the PA, and there is serious likelihood that Hamas would fill the void? So who is Israel supposed to talk to?
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They're not supposed to talk to anyone. They are supposed to get OFF Palestinian land and pay reparations for the horror they have inflicted. They should dismantle their ILLEGAL nukes along with their ILLEGAL settlements. Period.
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Since when do we have to get Israeli news on the front page every single day? I don't see British news daily. I don't see China, Germany, South Africa or Peru daily. I am really sick of this pandering to Israel, pandering to the GOP and most of all the general assumption that every Jewish person sides with Netanyahu. Many of us do not.
NYT - please lead the way in stopping the madness and get back to reporting rather than creating excitement, anxiety and furor. Please stop feeding the frenzy of GOP madness. This nonsense of their personal alliance with Israel has to stop and there is power of the press to curb the appetite of the public in this regard.
NYT - please lead the way in stopping the madness and get back to reporting rather than creating excitement, anxiety and furor. Please stop feeding the frenzy of GOP madness. This nonsense of their personal alliance with Israel has to stop and there is power of the press to curb the appetite of the public in this regard.
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I will second your plea, COB. I am so tired of news about Israel. I've heard it over the past 50 years. This is boring. Let Israel secede from the United States and go it alone. We've been enabling them for far too long and it's dulled their ability to develop creative solutions for living in the neighborhood they do.
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I want to congratulate PM Benjamin Netanyahu and the Likud party in this decisive victory. Netanyahu stands on principle and governs by it. He as a leader shows strength and not weakness like our president does. I applauded his speech before our congress. Because he is fighting for the survival of Israel. Obama on the other hand in opening up diplomatic talks with Iran is idiotic at best. They are a state sponsor of terrorism. Last I knew we don't negotiate with terrorists. Oops, I forgot the Bowe Bergdahl swap. I can only hope we have a right leaning president winning in our next presidential election.
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Now the test! Can the Netanyahu apologists like Rudoren pat us on the head and convince us that Netanyahu reeeally didn't mean what he said and that, we should just go on as before and don't think too much about it...more settlements...more calls for America to Go to war..more US money.
Just don't believe what the Israelis who elected him believed in doing so...that he is a racist and a bully., and that is what they wanted? Or are they in on the joke as well?
Just don't believe what the Israelis who elected him believed in doing so...that he is a racist and a bully., and that is what they wanted? Or are they in on the joke as well?
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What call to war? Bibi says he'll protect his people and his country and that is what he'll do..
Where is Bowe Bergdahl? Obama owes us an answer
Where is Bowe Bergdahl? Obama owes us an answer
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The irony is, in order to win a short term victory, for the very first time in his public life, he spoke honestly (in english). Now, some of those who made the mistake of believing his nonstop flagrant lies, realize who they're dealing with; a pathological liar. His ability to lie with such fluency has been a godsend to Israel's religious extremists.
The Likud is motivated around the notion of "Greater Israel;" the same people who claim that there is no occupied territory, because it is all part of Israel, believe the same thing about a good part of the surrounding nation states. As far as they are concerned, a big chunk of Egypt, all of Jordan, Syria, and lo and behold - all of Iraq, are part of "Greater Israel." Those evil people who won't stop attacking them (or at least not more than half a century ago) are all squatters on their land.
Do most voters in Israel believe that? I don't think so. But is that what Avigdor "chop off their heads" Lieberman believes? Most certainly. Is that what Bibi believes?
The unstated strategic goal is to do everything possible to destabilize their neighbors' political systems to the point of collapse, be that though military or political means, in order to capture more territory. Getting the US to make war with Iran is just the next step of that plan.
Some people have observed how wrong Bibi was about Iraq, and ask why we should listen to him about Iran now. Well, from his perspective, he got just what he (and the GOP) wanted.
The Likud is motivated around the notion of "Greater Israel;" the same people who claim that there is no occupied territory, because it is all part of Israel, believe the same thing about a good part of the surrounding nation states. As far as they are concerned, a big chunk of Egypt, all of Jordan, Syria, and lo and behold - all of Iraq, are part of "Greater Israel." Those evil people who won't stop attacking them (or at least not more than half a century ago) are all squatters on their land.
Do most voters in Israel believe that? I don't think so. But is that what Avigdor "chop off their heads" Lieberman believes? Most certainly. Is that what Bibi believes?
The unstated strategic goal is to do everything possible to destabilize their neighbors' political systems to the point of collapse, be that though military or political means, in order to capture more territory. Getting the US to make war with Iran is just the next step of that plan.
Some people have observed how wrong Bibi was about Iraq, and ask why we should listen to him about Iran now. Well, from his perspective, he got just what he (and the GOP) wanted.
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The answer to the incredible error in the exit polling is obvious in two
words: media bias. The progressives will go to any lengths to win - oh my, this is beginning to sound like the US!
words: media bias. The progressives will go to any lengths to win - oh my, this is beginning to sound like the US!
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Unlike our GOP, of course, which relies on more nuanced approaches, like gerrymandering and voter suppression.
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Congratulations Sheldon Adelson. You bought another country. Americans who love democracy had better take notice because Mr. Adelson's plan, along with the ALEC/Koch brothers/Wall Street/radical religious right/nra/major media corporate conglomerate, is to make sure Jeb Bush becomes President of the United States of America and the ONLY thing that will stop them is FULL voter support of Hillary Rodham Clinton for President in 2016. We are going to have a year and a half of BIG money trying to destroy Ms. Clinton and our resolve. Do not let it. Let's not let BIG money that wants to further destroy democracy America own us buy another election.
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Well, it is clear from the comments that I have read so far, that the right-wing zealots are out in full force. I feel very sad for the Palestinians and for Israel. This man, Netanyahu, is an absolute horror for all concerned. The right-wing Republicans under Sheldon Adelson in this country are so misguided. This election does not bode well for the Middle East. Further, I do not want ANY of my tax dollars going to Israel. They have enough money of their own!!!
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the Palestinians can have peace anytime they reject destroying Israel and murdering all the jews
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So, Israel is now a far-right leaning, religio/ideologically controlled state? A right-leaning state that the article claims "might" limit it's settlement policy of Palestinian territories, but provides zero evidence to support this claim, and gives no figure to help understand what "limit" might entail.
What we know is this. Netanyahu "avowed support on [two state solution in] 2009," but since that time in practice, on the ground, there have been tens of thousands of settlers expand into Palestinian territory, there has been an upholding of the blockade, and there was a brutal war in 2014, which killed roughly 500 Palestinian children and another 1000 civilians.
At this point, any positive speculation of "limiting" settlements or negotiations with Palestinians should not be taken seriously. Why should it? There is absolutely no evidence to support any speculation that settlements will halt, much less be retreated. There is no evidence to support a blockade removal. There is no evidence to support a Palestine-Israeli political solution.
Palestine has taken the right initiative by seeking the help of international institutions. The question is: Will the United States do more to assist the Palestinian people or will it continue to be on the wrong side of history? One thing is for sure. Policy makers should rest no hope on Netanyahu to make any significant changes to Israeli-Palestinian policies.
What we know is this. Netanyahu "avowed support on [two state solution in] 2009," but since that time in practice, on the ground, there have been tens of thousands of settlers expand into Palestinian territory, there has been an upholding of the blockade, and there was a brutal war in 2014, which killed roughly 500 Palestinian children and another 1000 civilians.
At this point, any positive speculation of "limiting" settlements or negotiations with Palestinians should not be taken seriously. Why should it? There is absolutely no evidence to support any speculation that settlements will halt, much less be retreated. There is no evidence to support a blockade removal. There is no evidence to support a Palestine-Israeli political solution.
Palestine has taken the right initiative by seeking the help of international institutions. The question is: Will the United States do more to assist the Palestinian people or will it continue to be on the wrong side of history? One thing is for sure. Policy makers should rest no hope on Netanyahu to make any significant changes to Israeli-Palestinian policies.
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Obama would be unwise to try to 'mend ties' with the current Netanyahu regime.
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For many years I believed that a 2 State plan was the only solution to the problem which has existed there for 60 years. However, since Gaza was taken over by Hamas I have my doubts. Actually Hamas' violence of this past summer solidified Bibi's hold. People in Israel were scared. Without the Iron Dome missile avoidance system the death toll would have been great. Though Israel's leveling of Gaza's infrastructure angered the world many Israeli voters were pushed to support their current leader
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Israelis are NOT scared and that is why they refuse to bargain and continue their relentless expansion. Further, Iron Dome was shown in THREE independent studies to be a complete hoax that engaged a maximum of 5% of incoming rockets and likely less than that. See the MIT study by Theodore Postal, the Raytheon study or the Israeli study.
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This whole election in Israel only proves that politicians are the same all over-They say what they electorate wants to hear- Same in dear old USA
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Netenyahu is putting his country in a dangerous position. He cares more for his own power than anything else. Is there any other tiny nation in the world, surrounded by enemies and with only one ally, that acts this way? He is not even depending on the entire U.S., just a select, and until now, influential group of donors. But Sheldon Adelson cannot vote in the UN Security Council, nor can he send troops to support an attack on Iran. The Prime Minister's victory is hollow and will be short-lived. He is already being branded as an apartheid leader. Unless the coalition parties wake up to reality and join other factions, I fear this man will leave Israel alone and extremely vulnerable.
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It won't make much difference to the resolution of the Palestine-Israel conflict if the pro-settlement party has 8 seats or 12 seats, or a minister or no minister in Netanyahu's cabinet. As long as settlements are expanded by either growing from within or from without, it messes-up the potential geography and viability of a future state of Palestine; and that is something neither the Palestinian people nor the international community accepts. Israel gets away with it anyhow because no Western government is prepared to pull the military and financial support that has helped to sustain these policies for over six decades. Perhaps it is time for some of our countries to call upon Mr. Netanyahu to explain how his policies will lead to long-term, sustainable peace in the region. That would change the level of the discussion with Israel from the kind of unproductive short-term politicking discussed in this article to something substantive that could lead to fresh thinking about long-term solutions having a chance to succeed.
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Sorry that Netanyahu prevailed-- I much would have preferred Herzog.
I am hoping that Netanyahu will retreat from the ugly remarks that characterized the immediate run- up to the election.
I am hoping that Netanyahu will retreat from the ugly remarks that characterized the immediate run- up to the election.
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We need to investigate AIPAC and it efforts to influence our political process in support of a foreign government. We should also examine the role that US citizens play in that same effort. At what point is a line crossed and these entities become foreign agents operating contrary to U. S. national interests?
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They've been acting against our national intereset for a long time. Wake up America!
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So much hate cannot sow peace.
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The PLO dropped the pretense of seeking a two-state solution a long time ago.
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The PLO Charter, to this day, calls for the demise of the State of Israel and the "cleansing" of the Jewish homeland of its Jews through all means possible. It is no longer a surprise to me, after six years of Obama's presidency, why the man at the Oval Office has NEVER demanded of the PLO to erase from its Charter these parts, despite the fact that the PLO leadership committed in writing to do so. But, he continues to accuse Israel for not wanting to reach a solution.
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Oh really? When? The PLO agreed to border adjustments on Israel's behalf, though they are not required to. They agreed to allow Israel to keep over 80% of the illegal settlements. They allowed Israel to keep half of Jerusalem though it is "Occupied Palestinian Land" under international law. They agreed to forfeit full right of return for Palestinians terrorized from their homes. All of this they agreed to during negotiation, but this was not enough for the land thieves of Israel.
Hamas has ALSO repeatedly agreed to two state. You can't invent facts with no basis in reality and expect to be taken seriously.
Hamas has ALSO repeatedly agreed to two state. You can't invent facts with no basis in reality and expect to be taken seriously.
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The PLO agreed to nothing since nothing has been agreed until and unless all aspects have been agreed, as has been stipulated in all negotiations to this day!! Furthermore, how could the PLO agree to anything while still calling in its own Charter for the demise of the State of Israel and the "cleansing" of the Jewish homeland of its Jews through all means possible, and this despite the fact that the PLO signed a commitment more than 20 years ago to amend the Charter?
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Its funny how some so called supporters of Israel have suddendly decalred hatred for Israel once an election doesnt go their way. i guess they dont belive in democracy and would prefer a dictatorship like Putin or Assad
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Why push arguments to extremes? One can want a good future for Israel, and at the same time dislike and fear Netanyahu, and at the same time accept democratic procedures. (Although extravagent electoral spending by special interests IS REALLY a threat; one wonders how much democracy remains.) Americans make mistakes too - Nixon was reelected in 1972; he won 49 states. all except Massachusetts. After Nixon was forced to resign, Massacusetts bumper stickers read "DON'T BLAME IT ON US"
So I hope that Israel will survive Netanyahu. But I think that the genuine "Israel-haters" might rejoice today - encouraged that Netanyahu's good electoral results will lead to even more self-destructive actions by Israel.
So I hope that Israel will survive Netanyahu. But I think that the genuine "Israel-haters" might rejoice today - encouraged that Netanyahu's good electoral results will lead to even more self-destructive actions by Israel.
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They are called fair weather friends, and the American Jews are called Armchair Zionists. Where is the respect for democracy?? That's all the world has been hearing out of Washington from George W. to bad sport BO!
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Netanyahu is a racist that is leading Israel to become an apartheid state. His victory says a lot of where Israel is now.
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It's getting closer ... very close Israel
Relax Omar. Khartoum is closer...
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Obama was way too busy working on his NCAA brackets to be bothered picking up the phone and make the painful, but obligatory call congratulating Netanyahu on being re-elected Prime Minister of Israel.
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Netanyahu has made his bed; now he must sleep in it. Ultimately, one may ask why American kids should sacrifice their lives for this war monger, when a sizeable portion of peace loving Israeli kids refuse to participate in the draft within their own country? Israel needs a new leader, but hey, who am I to say? Oh yeah, I forgot, Netanyahu got directly involved in my country's internal politics, so I gotta say "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" (:
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Congratulate Bibi for what? Being a divisive, racist electoral cheat who has thumbed his nose at peace attempts and taken back his own promise to pursue a two-state solution? Why should Obama congratulate that?
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I hope that Netanyahu, proud and honorable man that he is, will be so offended by President Obama' snub that when that $3.5 Bl US Treasury check lands on his desk, he will 'return it to sender'. You show him, Bibi!
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Just curious but what right did Obama have giving OUR money to change the outcome of this election? Does no one else wonder about that?
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I agree, none of my tax dollars should be given to any other country.
Details? Could you please elaborate and tell us exactly how, and how much of, "OUR money" was given ?
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and where did that chestnut come from? please cite your source. i for one would love to read where you saw that. or are you perhaps thinking adelson and just got confused between him and the president because they look very similar?
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Netanyahu winning makes the world a darker, more dangerous place. America must back away from Israel and let it go its own way.
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Oh goody, then we can be friends with the rest of them that out and out say they want to wipe us out. We are like slow learners aren't we?
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Apparently, Jordan & Saudi Arabia are happy that Bibi won.
At least someone understands their plight.
Netanyahu is like Harry Truman.
Obama is like Jimmy Carter.
At least someone understands their plight.
Netanyahu is like Harry Truman.
Obama is like Jimmy Carter.
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Harry Truman was for civil rights. Jimmy Carter was for human rights. Netanyahu may be similar to Dick Cheney and Joe McCarthy, but totally different from Truman or any respected president in our past or present.
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Harry Truman did what he had to do for his country
& he did it without apology & with guts.
Jimmy Carter left Americans attacked in our Embassy,
which was our territory & an act of war to be subjected
to 400 days of torture. He made one lame attempt to get them out. Iran had such a low opinion of him that they wouldn't
release them until he was out of office.
Netanyahoo is a leader.
Obama is "Present."
& he did it without apology & with guts.
Jimmy Carter left Americans attacked in our Embassy,
which was our territory & an act of war to be subjected
to 400 days of torture. He made one lame attempt to get them out. Iran had such a low opinion of him that they wouldn't
release them until he was out of office.
Netanyahoo is a leader.
Obama is "Present."
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The United States must do everything it can to strengthen the power of the Palestinians. All aid formerly given to Israel must be transferred to the Palestinians,for schools, economic aid and democracy promotion in the
West Bank and Gaza. Strengthen the legal, political, and economic conditions in the West Bank to make it a power with the independence that the world cannot deny statehood to. Win statehood for the Palestinians from international bodies.
West Bank and Gaza. Strengthen the legal, political, and economic conditions in the West Bank to make it a power with the independence that the world cannot deny statehood to. Win statehood for the Palestinians from international bodies.
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I feel a good vote for Israel, and feel that security for that nation is in good hands, sadly from some other reviews posted, as America continues to show weakness in leading the world.l say support Isreal in energy and your money, and as a chrisian believing people you will never go wrong. God bless America.
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Sorry, people with blinders. When a person is backed into a corner and spouts racist remarks, his "true colors" are on display.
And this is a genie you can't put back in the lamp. Some "talking head" put it, "It will be hard to walk back..."
That's a colossal understatement. From a policy p.o.v., he tied his OWN hands and set Israel on a course where one after another, European nations decide that shameful incidents in THEIR past notwithstanding, for either pragmatic or principled reasons, they MUST support a Palestinian state being fashioned by externals and probably not on the Israel-centric terms it might have been had Bibi been more pragmatic himself.
And if Israel had not lost ALL of the "moral high ground" over the past few years, Bibi's "we can't let the Arabs determine OUR election outcome" did the job. People (families) with lifelong, generation-spanning generosity to Israel - and there are many such - have finally been "mugged," and they won't be quick to write checks.
As for Obama, cipher though he is and has been (for mostly understandable reasons), he has a backbone ... and for all that Republicans are back in jingo territory, they WILL be sympathetic to constituents saying "Why are you slashing everything domestic and giving a well-developed nation billions of dollars?"
One narrative is that Bibi did a Houdini-like trick. My take is that he won a battle and lost the war. HIS OWN agenda and legacy will burn very brightly (consumed!) as his career winds down.
And this is a genie you can't put back in the lamp. Some "talking head" put it, "It will be hard to walk back..."
That's a colossal understatement. From a policy p.o.v., he tied his OWN hands and set Israel on a course where one after another, European nations decide that shameful incidents in THEIR past notwithstanding, for either pragmatic or principled reasons, they MUST support a Palestinian state being fashioned by externals and probably not on the Israel-centric terms it might have been had Bibi been more pragmatic himself.
And if Israel had not lost ALL of the "moral high ground" over the past few years, Bibi's "we can't let the Arabs determine OUR election outcome" did the job. People (families) with lifelong, generation-spanning generosity to Israel - and there are many such - have finally been "mugged," and they won't be quick to write checks.
As for Obama, cipher though he is and has been (for mostly understandable reasons), he has a backbone ... and for all that Republicans are back in jingo territory, they WILL be sympathetic to constituents saying "Why are you slashing everything domestic and giving a well-developed nation billions of dollars?"
One narrative is that Bibi did a Houdini-like trick. My take is that he won a battle and lost the war. HIS OWN agenda and legacy will burn very brightly (consumed!) as his career winds down.
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As an American, it is difficult for me to get my head around how winning 25 percent of the seats in the legislature constitutes a crushing victory? I get it that Netanyahu will form a coalition that will govern, but this article makes it seem that he has been anointed as king? I believe he has huge obstacles given his reputation in the world community. He acts as if Israel is the center of the universe, and the world community needs his permission to do anything in the Middle East. His behavior elevates the term chutzpah to a new level. I think Obama should cut him loose to see what he can do on his own. A little humility will do him some good.
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The new/old leadership of the State of Israel will have to learn from these elections and reach the conclusions that we must adhere to the late Zeev Jabotinsky's views:
1) Ensure that all citizens of the country are provided with sufficient/affordable food, shelter, clothing, health and education while enabling the citizens then to use their own private initiatives to increase prosperity of the mind, heart and material
2) Ensure that western Eretz Israel (Land of Israel), located between the Jordan River and the Med. Sea, remains, as provided by international law, by the UN charter and even by the Anglo-American Treaty (1924) - Obama, please take a note!! - the national home of the Jewish people under an overall rule of the State of Israel
3) Ensure that those eager to bring about the demise of the State of Israel and the "cleansing" of the Jewish homeland of its Jews face a strong society: spiritually, socially, economically and militarily
Am Israel Hai / עם ישראל חי
(The People of Israel lives on)
1) Ensure that all citizens of the country are provided with sufficient/affordable food, shelter, clothing, health and education while enabling the citizens then to use their own private initiatives to increase prosperity of the mind, heart and material
2) Ensure that western Eretz Israel (Land of Israel), located between the Jordan River and the Med. Sea, remains, as provided by international law, by the UN charter and even by the Anglo-American Treaty (1924) - Obama, please take a note!! - the national home of the Jewish people under an overall rule of the State of Israel
3) Ensure that those eager to bring about the demise of the State of Israel and the "cleansing" of the Jewish homeland of its Jews face a strong society: spiritually, socially, economically and militarily
Am Israel Hai / עם ישראל חי
(The People of Israel lives on)
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Were it not for religious delusions about Israel and the "end times", I doubt the US would continue to support this arrogant state.
I don't buy into that superstitious lunacy, and I won't give Israel a pass on their bad behavior.
It's time we turn our backs and walk away.
I don't buy into that superstitious lunacy, and I won't give Israel a pass on their bad behavior.
It's time we turn our backs and walk away.
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Arrogant state? What about Abbas declaring that no Jew would be allowed to live in Palestine? What about India's brutal military occupation of Kashmir, denying all basic rights to the Ksahmiri people? What about Turkey's genocidal destruction of Kurdistan? What about the Chinese destruction of democracy in Hong Kong or the basic rights to national self determination in Nepal? So, Israel's behavior will be judged by these democracy loving countries? When was the last time you demonstrated against American occupation of Native American lands and demanded their independence? Give us all a break, please. I don't much like Netanyahu and would have voted for Herzog, but all this hypocrisy is just a bit much.
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It's time to stop all US aid to Israel.
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The U.S. needs to distance itself from Netanyahu (and that includes the billions of dollars that U.S. taxpayers pour into Israel each year). That the Palestinian people deserve and demand a state after being stateless and tormented for over 60 years is common sense. The majority of voters of in Israel may have been swayed by Netanyahu's politics of fear and a so-called greater Israel, but these policies are at odds with the basic tenets of Judaism for fair play and peace.
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They have never had a state. They were once a part of Jordan. The Arabs, not the Israelis, have interned many of them in refugee camps. Why is that?
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"As for Mr. Netanyahu’s declaration on the eve of the election that no
Palestinian state would be created on his watch ... People close to him have already suggested that he meant only that current conditions in the region and the attitude of the Palestinian leadership make a state unrealistic now."
The full speech by Prime Minister Netanyahu indeed emphasized he was referring to present conditions making a Palestinian state unfeasible, It was the U.S. and the Israeli opposition media which trumpeted this as much more strident and as a departure from his previous position.
His voters thought otherwise, and voted for security and constancy.
Let's see if our President Obama can now be confident enough to work with this key Mideast ally, finally.
Palestinian state would be created on his watch ... People close to him have already suggested that he meant only that current conditions in the region and the attitude of the Palestinian leadership make a state unrealistic now."
The full speech by Prime Minister Netanyahu indeed emphasized he was referring to present conditions making a Palestinian state unfeasible, It was the U.S. and the Israeli opposition media which trumpeted this as much more strident and as a departure from his previous position.
His voters thought otherwise, and voted for security and constancy.
Let's see if our President Obama can now be confident enough to work with this key Mideast ally, finally.
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"Let's see if our President Obama can now be confident enough to work with this key Mideast ally, finally."
Wasn't President Obama working with our key Mideast ally when he busted the French and German banks for breaking the sanctions against Iran? Didn't President Obama make available as much armaments as Israel needed in the recent war in Gaza and so, not only work with but openly support a key Mideast ally?
Wasn't President Obama working with our key Mideast ally when he busted the French and German banks for breaking the sanctions against Iran? Didn't President Obama make available as much armaments as Israel needed in the recent war in Gaza and so, not only work with but openly support a key Mideast ally?
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“Now that his position has been vindicated by his own base, he can take certain liberties,” Sure, the world hasn't seen the "real" Bibi. Now, owner of a resounding victory (and elections have consequences), the "just" Bibi will emerge as does a butterfly from a caterpillar's cocoon.
And the world will see a sincere man of peace - an eloquent voice and advocate for fair treatment of the Palestinians. Instead of Churchill, to which he has been compared, the world will see him as MLK and Gandhi reincarnate. He will shock the world - and next year will be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.
I know - ridiculous - but from this news story the spin has already begun.
And the world will see a sincere man of peace - an eloquent voice and advocate for fair treatment of the Palestinians. Instead of Churchill, to which he has been compared, the world will see him as MLK and Gandhi reincarnate. He will shock the world - and next year will be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.
I know - ridiculous - but from this news story the spin has already begun.
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In reply to Tom Paine who rightly ridicules any future comparison by Netanyahu supporters of the Prime Minister to MLK, Ghandi and Churchill: You are right. I would compare him only to a mythical Prime Minister of Israel who ignores or denies the realities of a Palestinian Authority with no authority, a Gaza with Hamas pledged to Israel's destruction, ISIS lurking not far away (the Sinai), a Syria with continued slaughter and warfare, a Lebanon with Hezbollah similarly sworn to destroy Israel. Any Israeli Prime Minister who would allow the formation of a Palestinian State in these circumstances would be a lunatic.
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Excellent comment, Tom. I see this as equivocal to the 2014 election in the US, which swept in and back in, our most extreme Likud equivalents and look how productive, patriotic and selfless they have been living up to their promise to govern like grownups and not elementary school bullies.
The only consolation I can see is that Netanyahu wasn't in charge while Bush and Cheney were in office, although his unofficial role in cheerleading the biggest foreign policy disaster in modern history, the one that -- irony alert -- led to the ascendance of Iran -- was extraordinarily helpful to the world at large.
The only consolation I can see is that Netanyahu wasn't in charge while Bush and Cheney were in office, although his unofficial role in cheerleading the biggest foreign policy disaster in modern history, the one that -- irony alert -- led to the ascendance of Iran -- was extraordinarily helpful to the world at large.
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Oh.... to only dream of some day having a right wing President in the USA for 8 years. Try to steer this county back in the right direction.
And can somebody please tell me why most Jews in the USA vote Democratic when its the Republicans that truly believe in support for Israel?
And can somebody please tell me why most Jews in the USA vote Democratic when its the Republicans that truly believe in support for Israel?
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By all means...let's vote for another war-mongering inept Republican who will spend and spend and create a bigger deficit, safeguard the 1% and ignore the needs of this country and the middle class .......to quote John McEnroe - "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!"
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Alas, there is only one Jewish Republican lawmaker in Congress and he has been seated only since this January. Republican voters in Virginia rudely ousted the most senior Jewish lawmaker, Eric Cantor, last year.
The Democrats have nearly thirty lawmakers, voted in and loved by their constituents, which maybe proves that love of Israel has depth and is not merely seized upon as another "issue" that can be used to try and discredit President Obama.
The Democrats have nearly thirty lawmakers, voted in and loved by their constituents, which maybe proves that love of Israel has depth and is not merely seized upon as another "issue" that can be used to try and discredit President Obama.
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Although I know very little about Israeli politics and just a little more about Mr Netanyahu, it seemed that the American media all but wrote him off or wanted for him to lose the election. He is a savvy political player who has staying power and the Israeli people knew what they had in Mr Netanyahu and they were under estimated by the press for whom they would vote for. It almost seemed like American liberals here want to remake Israel into a left leaning country. They keep forgetting scud missiles can now reach Tel Aviv.
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Agreed. When the whistle of scud rockets can be heard overhead. One's perspective changes.
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Hopefully we will have a new American president who does not treat Israel with such spiteful hostility.
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Hopefully, the Israelis will see that it isn't a good idea to spit in the face of an American president, elected legally (unlike GW Bush) by the American people.
This new government may end up dangerous to the stability of the region.
This new government may end up dangerous to the stability of the region.
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Actually it is about time that we have an American President who would stand up to Israel, unlike our congress, which kowtows to Israel through AIPAC. We (the US) are working against our own self interest, as in the case of Iranian nukes.
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Which American President has been more friendly to Israel and provided more aid to Israel than President Obama?
Israel got all the military assistance they asked for from the Obama Administration in the recent Gaza war. And as John Kerry noted, the US has intervened many times on Israel's behalf in world affairs.
Who pressures the UN more than Barack Obama not to grant statehood to the Palestinians?
By the way, this is as it should be.
Israel got all the military assistance they asked for from the Obama Administration in the recent Gaza war. And as John Kerry noted, the US has intervened many times on Israel's behalf in world affairs.
Who pressures the UN more than Barack Obama not to grant statehood to the Palestinians?
By the way, this is as it should be.
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The anti Netanyahu rhetoric here has been fostered by the NY Times and its editorials and editorializing by staff journalists. Netanyahu is determined to protect his people and his country from the growing threat of Iran in the region. This concern is shared among Arab Gulf State nations. The attempts to undermine his reelection by no less than Obama and Kerry is deplorable against the one true ally the US has in the region.
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"Netanyahu is determined to protect his people"
President Obama is also determined to protect the Israeli people. What is at issue now is how to go about doing this. Netanyahu wants more sanctions against Iran but he has zero influence with the other nations, such as Russia, India and China, who would have to implement those additional sanctions. When President Obama says that the US will use force to prevent Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, who will be the beneficiary? The Israeli people, including Mr. Netanyahu.
President Obama is also determined to protect the Israeli people. What is at issue now is how to go about doing this. Netanyahu wants more sanctions against Iran but he has zero influence with the other nations, such as Russia, India and China, who would have to implement those additional sanctions. When President Obama says that the US will use force to prevent Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, who will be the beneficiary? The Israeli people, including Mr. Netanyahu.
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Netanyahu is partially responsible for the rise in Iranian influence due to his championing of the Iraq War. As for protecting his people, despite the fact that Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons that it has never declared but of which the world is aware, the support of the international community is even more important to Israel's protection. There is no question that his behavior, particularly when it comes to some of his actions during this campaign, will diminish that support, which is very unfortunate for the Israeli people. His self aggrandizing, fear mongering speech in Congress did not just offend "liberals" or the majority polled in the country, but the other countries working hard to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon. Not smart on any level.
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Your president is a disgrâce he congratulated the president of iran rouhani ,Erdogan,Putin ,Morsi , when they were elected he doesn't want to congratulated M.Netanyahu the leader of a free démocratic state the only one in the middle east because Netayahu doesn't fit with Obama ´s agenda in the région !!!More than that despite all the foreign opposition to Netanyahu that contributed in demonizing him with lies among them obama PM Netanyahu was elected by a large margin it comes as a boomerang in Obama face israelis are not as stupid as many people think to let liberal media and the international community décide of the fate of our election !!
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"all the foreign opposition to Netanyahu" is a telling comment. It isn't just America that wants to turn away from Israel. Israel has become a rogue state and, under Netanyahu, a danger to the world. The election demonstrates the support of the common Israeli and confirms those who would disengage from Israel.
Israel has elected to stand alone as a rogue state. The free world must allow it to do so. Your comment supports that conclusion.
Israel has elected to stand alone as a rogue state. The free world must allow it to do so. Your comment supports that conclusion.
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"...he has been known in the past to make conflicting statements on various occasions". Translation: Netanyahu is a liar.
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So if I am puting your comment it it's proper perspective - The majority of the voters like and understand a Liar, wow !
Since Netanyahu has declared Israel is an apartheid state, must we not refuse to militarily support it? Exactly how are we supposed to react now at this throwback to Southern sheriffs but with nuclear arms? And happening in other countries, increasing fear and withdrawal. Turn all the locks, ISIS on the rampage. Fear, fear, don't trust anyone ever. Just us, our kind. irrelevant which kind it is, it's different. Never work together or truly compromise. Society is supposed to progress, not regress so dramatically.
We cannot support an apartheid state in any way. Throwdown language from BB to all the world. Please let's not be the only country to paper over what this means.
We cannot support an apartheid state in any way. Throwdown language from BB to all the world. Please let's not be the only country to paper over what this means.
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The Netanyahu/West-Bank and Putin/Ukraine problems deserve equal treatment.
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I am not against a two-state solution, but who will lead the Palestinians? Hamas? Hezbollah? Iran? Do they want a two-state solution? I don't think so, and they made it clear many years ago. In fact, they were never in favor of a two-state solution.
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And who will lead Israel, Netanyahu?, a man of Peace? Oh please,
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There's a difference between peace, and peace with security. Chamberlain wanted peace. His pursue of peace almost destroyed Britain and the free world. That's the history Netanyahu will not allow to repeat itself.
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Congratulations Mr. Netanyahu. Be Well.
Obama worldwide, has been recognized for what he is.
700 days exactly from now we will find out what our voters have done to wreck this nation for good, or to provide possible improvement.
700 days from now the new president will cancel the Obama executive orders that determined the United States' course of action the prior 8 years. That February day, the new president will replace said executive orders with his own executive orders, updated and upgraded.
I share little hope that the United States will overnight become non-belligerent, or that the rest of the world's populations can feel safe from the United States’ preemptive destruction that awaits the innocent.
We can all only pray for relief.
Obama worldwide, has been recognized for what he is.
700 days exactly from now we will find out what our voters have done to wreck this nation for good, or to provide possible improvement.
700 days from now the new president will cancel the Obama executive orders that determined the United States' course of action the prior 8 years. That February day, the new president will replace said executive orders with his own executive orders, updated and upgraded.
I share little hope that the United States will overnight become non-belligerent, or that the rest of the world's populations can feel safe from the United States’ preemptive destruction that awaits the innocent.
We can all only pray for relief.
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Why does Obama have to worry about mending fences with Bibi. Leave Bibi out on his lonesome...See how he gets along without his bodyguard.
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I no longer care about Israel. The two state solution has been tossed out, and Netanyahu openly made racist statements about his own Arab citizens. He also openly showed terrible disrespect for the president of the United States and for all the voters who twice elected that president. Netanyahu only cares about far right Republicans and Adelson in the U.S., and only about the far right voters in Israel.
War mongering racists do not have my sympathy or support. Nor do I want them having my tax dollars.
War mongering racists do not have my sympathy or support. Nor do I want them having my tax dollars.
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What you describe as "Far right voters in Israel" is clearly the overwhelming majority of it's citizens. Israel's fear for their lives. It's not surprising that Americans can't conceptualize this.
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They "fear for their lives" because they bully and steal from their neighbors.
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MR Natanyahu should get off the Iranian nuclear crusade,while Iran is Israel's # one enemy,Iran is also the enemy of the suny Arabs,and the US,let them conduct the war on Iran, instead,Israel should concentrate its
efforts to tighten the sanctions on Iran till Iran gets out from the Israel-palestinian conflict,it is Iran that finances and arms Hamas and hezbolla, in order to destroy Israel,hamas and hezbolla,pose a greater danger to Israel than a nuclear Iran,given Israel's floating nuclear arsenal Iran is unlikely to attack Israel directly,there was never a war between Israel and Iran,Iran has no borders with Israel,so,Iran's hatred for Israel is plain Antisemitic,tightening the sanctions against Iran will force it to become more rational.
efforts to tighten the sanctions on Iran till Iran gets out from the Israel-palestinian conflict,it is Iran that finances and arms Hamas and hezbolla, in order to destroy Israel,hamas and hezbolla,pose a greater danger to Israel than a nuclear Iran,given Israel's floating nuclear arsenal Iran is unlikely to attack Israel directly,there was never a war between Israel and Iran,Iran has no borders with Israel,so,Iran's hatred for Israel is plain Antisemitic,tightening the sanctions against Iran will force it to become more rational.
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JK what you don't seem to understand is that Israel is pushing the US into war with Iran, the Israelis want us to do their dirty work. The American people are sick of this continuous war, and the mess that we have created in the Middle East.
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Oh, well. Looks like America's going to have to protect the bullying little brother for more time to come. How brazen would Bibi be if America stopped sending billions of dollars to Israel? It sickens me that my tax dollars are going to support a nation whose citizenry engages in displacing a people with no voice on the international stage. It's time for America to not only stop sending Israel money it doesn't deserve, but to end its veto power on the UN Security Council and allow Palestine a chance for recourse.
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Just as it is offputting that Netanyahu seems to think he can mess around in our democracy, and use one of our major parties as a campaign prop, it is also not quite right if we in the US too easily judge the internal affairs of Israel. Netanyahu is playing a plan of his own in a place in the world, and under conditions, we here in the US are unfamiliar with. We do not live there. But he should try to remember, he does not live here.
I wish the new government well.
I wish the new government well.
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A free Palestinian State solves most of the problems.
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I just think it's rude and childish that the President of the United States hasn't even bothered to pick up a phone and congratulate the new Prime Minister of Israel.
Obama is still the same small, petty man I saw in the debates.
Obama is still the same small, petty man I saw in the debates.
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It was rude and childish for Netanyahu to come here and give a speech to Congress. He deserves the cold shoulder. President Obama is doing the right thing.
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But it wasn't childish and rude to electioneer in the US congress?
Please.
I'm sure it will be more upsetting in the next days when the UN creates the state of Palestine out of whole cloth, much as the world did for Israel. Will it stop Israel from doing everything possible to make war in the region? Of course not. But I wager it will happen now. Next up, reassigning their welfare check to more important matters at home.
Please.
I'm sure it will be more upsetting in the next days when the UN creates the state of Palestine out of whole cloth, much as the world did for Israel. Will it stop Israel from doing everything possible to make war in the region? Of course not. But I wager it will happen now. Next up, reassigning their welfare check to more important matters at home.
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You're so right. Obama needs to go to the Knesset and make a speech about how utterly destructive and self defeating it is to continuing building settlements in the Palestinian territories.
I think it's extremely ironic that the people who imagine themselves the real patriots in the US are utterly contemptuous of an enslaved population, the Palestinians, who have been and continue to be treated in ways that make the pre-Revolutionary War British look like wonderful humanitarians.
I think it's extremely ironic that the people who imagine themselves the real patriots in the US are utterly contemptuous of an enslaved population, the Palestinians, who have been and continue to be treated in ways that make the pre-Revolutionary War British look like wonderful humanitarians.
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Mr. Netanyahu is right. It's time for one country. Maybe even a hyphenated country like "Israel-Palestine" or something more clever. Make it a full democracy, one person -- one vote. Palestinians make up 49 percent of the population now. Will there be a race home for the millions of potential voters among the diaspora for the first free election. What then?
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When he says no Palestinian state he mean maintained the status quo. He means no rights for Palestinians, more oppression and more occupation.
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Now I understand the puzzle of why the new terrorists of the middle east have proclaimed themselves "ISIS"..........to confront "BIBI".
I am critical of Netanyahu the Nightmare, but I hope he knows this and defends Israel from this newest growing threat. It is clear to me now that ISIS is building a nation that will attack Israel. I knew many months ago that it was imperative that the world defeat ISIS. Now I know it is a vital imperative.
I disagree with the Israeli voters but I hope I am wrong and that they made a wise choice in electing a ruthless leader to protect them.
Israel is in real danger from ISIS.
I am critical of Netanyahu the Nightmare, but I hope he knows this and defends Israel from this newest growing threat. It is clear to me now that ISIS is building a nation that will attack Israel. I knew many months ago that it was imperative that the world defeat ISIS. Now I know it is a vital imperative.
I disagree with the Israeli voters but I hope I am wrong and that they made a wise choice in electing a ruthless leader to protect them.
Israel is in real danger from ISIS.
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So why hasn't Israel joined the fight against ISIS ?? Israel will never fight ISIS.
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For the same reason ISIS hasn't lobbed bottle rockets into Israel; they serve each other's interests.
Iran is the country fighting ISIS. Just saying.
In case people aren't watching, the folks who slaughter their own to wipe out even the wisps of opposition, those who would pursue a two state solution, imbed rockets fired with ever alarming accuracy and range with the intent at taking out civ8ilian populations and abrogating all the land of a sovereign nation ain't Israeli's, they are Iranian armed and finished Hamas and other terrorist groups who are dead set against peace on any terms. People also overlook Sharon's pullback and evacuation of Israeli settlements from both Gaza and the West bank to foster negotiations for a two state solution; the result, Hamas terrorists dissertated abandoned synagogues, destroyed thousands of acres of glass enclosed arable land comprising a flourishing agra industry, shot off guns and declared victory due to years of terror, and began the process of building and consolidating power and arms to carry out the declared destruction of Israel. When BiBi announced the halt of a planned massive settlement in the West Bank and pledged to pursue a two state solution, that announcement was met by the announced alliance between Fatah and Hama, ending any hope of negotiations with the Palestinian Authority. In the meantime, Iran now controls and arms Hamas, has grown Hezbollah whose troops are now deployed in Syria and control the Golan Border, will soon own Iraq. Hamas/Iran want to seriously talk a two state solution, everybody knows BiBi will participate. Saying so is beyond pointless now.
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While I am astounded by what the people of Israel have chosen in re-electing Netanyahu I am coming to realize, why does it matter? If they want to be a rouge nation that invades and steals territory that is not theirs, so be it. After all, American history is not immune from such exploits as we "conquered the west."
Go ahead Israel, pick all the fights you want, just NOT WITH MY MONEY or SUPPORT! Time for American to cut all ties with Israel. Stop all foreign and military aid to Israel NOW! Then go ahead Israel. do whatever you please, just leave America out of it. We get nothing out of a so called "friendship" with Israel, so its time to go separate ways....
Go ahead Israel, pick all the fights you want, just NOT WITH MY MONEY or SUPPORT! Time for American to cut all ties with Israel. Stop all foreign and military aid to Israel NOW! Then go ahead Israel. do whatever you please, just leave America out of it. We get nothing out of a so called "friendship" with Israel, so its time to go separate ways....
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Sad. In today's American Democrat Party, there is no room for either Jews or Christians.
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Christians, yes. Hyper-religious Southern pseudo-Christian Calvinists? Yeah, you might have a point. And the overwhelming majority of US Jews will remain Democrats because the GOP is nuts and its minions eventually want to convert them to that religious point of view....
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I'm a Jew, tom. What there is no room for is religious extremists holding the world hostage to their ideology and biblically fueled fights over chunks of land, whatever their religion or nationality.
I presume you're not a Jew? Maybe you think Judaism=Zionism? Did they teach that to you in school?
What's sad, tom, is that lots and lots of American's really do conflate these things, but I assure you, there are many Jews in the Democrat party who aren't as simple minded.
I presume you're not a Jew? Maybe you think Judaism=Zionism? Did they teach that to you in school?
What's sad, tom, is that lots and lots of American's really do conflate these things, but I assure you, there are many Jews in the Democrat party who aren't as simple minded.
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Can anyone out there tell me exactly what national interest the US has in being so closely allied to Israel? What do we get in exchange for all the risk we assume for the unconditional diplomatic, economic and military support we give? Netanyahu thumbing his nose at the president of the US, on the floor of the House, no less. Does our support for a right wing Israel reduce the probability that we'll be attacked by terrorists? Do we need Israel for anything at all? Politicians say they're our closest ally in the region. How so? What good is this "unbreakable" bond to us? The question is not whether we support a two state but are we, as Americans, complicit in the Israeli military occupation of the West Bank that's gone on for almost 50 years with no end in sight. On the contrary, they continue to build "settlements" there. Meanwhile, American politicians talk to us as if the two state solution is a real possibility -- as if peace is achievable. And so we'll continue sending money, military equipment and giving diplomatic support until we sink in the quagmire that is the Middle East. We don't support Israel because we want to -- it feels more like we do it because we're stuck there and have to.
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Israel is the only democracy in the area, which by their definition means only Jewish people count.
What stuns me is that Israel can behave this way, treating 49% of its residents as less than human, after what the Jewish people have gone through. Unbelievable.
What stuns me is that Israel can behave this way, treating 49% of its residents as less than human, after what the Jewish people have gone through. Unbelievable.
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Lou, you have just illustrated a point of view that I'm afraid is the part of the story not reported in this article, the growing and to my mind, reasonable backlash against supporting an Israel led by an intractable bully catering to some of the most malign influences in Israel, which like the US is actually a democracy with an intellectually and to a large extent culturally diverse constituency that includes an Arab population that despite Bibi's racist post leading up the election did well in the same election that brought him back to his throne.
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I wanted to promote a contrarian viewpoint from one of Arab descent. As I've studied his legislative actions and political declarations, I cannot deny that PM Netanyahu is an honorable man. More to the point, he is a leader that every nation and every group of peoples hope to have for themselves. The people's champion.
He has showed compassion towards Arabs whenever crimes of profiling have occurred. He has, as this article states, plans for releasing millions in funds back to Palestinians. His ramped up rhetoric is not unlike the proclamations of American pols before an important election, and can be seen strictly in that light.
The PM's impassioned stance is simply a symptom of his unwavering and unencumbered devotion to his land. And for that, I salute him. Congratulations to Benjamin Netanyahu on his victory.
He has showed compassion towards Arabs whenever crimes of profiling have occurred. He has, as this article states, plans for releasing millions in funds back to Palestinians. His ramped up rhetoric is not unlike the proclamations of American pols before an important election, and can be seen strictly in that light.
The PM's impassioned stance is simply a symptom of his unwavering and unencumbered devotion to his land. And for that, I salute him. Congratulations to Benjamin Netanyahu on his victory.
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Well stated.
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Muhammad, you are an honourable man and people like you are very rare in the world we live in! Thank you my friend for your honesty!
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Millions in funds for Palestinians? To leave their homes in East Jerusalem? Compassion he showed for arabs aa vowing to Judaize east Jerusalem
Well it's BILLIONS not millions after ICC slams him for committing crimes against humanity, Numerous war Crimes, discriminating against Arab voters of the nation and stealing Palestinians land
Well it's BILLIONS not millions after ICC slams him for committing crimes against humanity, Numerous war Crimes, discriminating against Arab voters of the nation and stealing Palestinians land
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Bravo Bibi with all the anti Israel comments in the paper, and the duplicitous, dealing, with negotiators who do not like Israel, or care for the states well being.
I want more settlements, I want a burgeoning Israel. the only democratic country in a hostile sea of states. .Bravo Bibi Go for it!!!
I want more settlements, I want a burgeoning Israel. the only democratic country in a hostile sea of states. .Bravo Bibi Go for it!!!
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Bravo to race baiting, building illegal settlements, and insulting our President and the American people? As others have said, let Sheldon Adelson fund Bibi and the right wingers -- not US taxpayers.
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Disappointed and surprised by the outcome of Israel’s recent elections, reporters and analysts have been concentrating on Benjamin Netanyahu’s crude conduct during these elections.
Concentrating on Mr. Netanyahu, without due regard to the crucial role Israel and its electorate have played in the outcome of these elections, however, distorts their meaning and distracts from a serious discussion of the measures that should be taken in response to them.
Israel’s policy of thwarting peace with the Palestinians through unending negotiations, of building illegal settlements on Palestinian lands in the West Bank, of unrelenting occupation of the West Bank, of periodical bombings of Gaza, of the embargo against Gaza, of legalized racism against the Palestinians with Israeli citizenship and of keeping alive the conflict with the Palestinians was neither initiated by, nor is the sole responsibility of Mr. Netanyahu. It is a long-term policy of the state of Israel and of its various governments. It was initiated by an elected Israeli government after the June War of 1967, and has been followed by all subsequently elected Israeli governments, including those led by Mr. Netanyahu.
While Mr. Netanyahu deserves the rebuke he has been receiving, this rebuke should not be a substitute for firm measures that should be put into action by the international community, with United States support, in order to rescue the Palestinian people from Israel’s repression and Israel from itself.
Concentrating on Mr. Netanyahu, without due regard to the crucial role Israel and its electorate have played in the outcome of these elections, however, distorts their meaning and distracts from a serious discussion of the measures that should be taken in response to them.
Israel’s policy of thwarting peace with the Palestinians through unending negotiations, of building illegal settlements on Palestinian lands in the West Bank, of unrelenting occupation of the West Bank, of periodical bombings of Gaza, of the embargo against Gaza, of legalized racism against the Palestinians with Israeli citizenship and of keeping alive the conflict with the Palestinians was neither initiated by, nor is the sole responsibility of Mr. Netanyahu. It is a long-term policy of the state of Israel and of its various governments. It was initiated by an elected Israeli government after the June War of 1967, and has been followed by all subsequently elected Israeli governments, including those led by Mr. Netanyahu.
While Mr. Netanyahu deserves the rebuke he has been receiving, this rebuke should not be a substitute for firm measures that should be put into action by the international community, with United States support, in order to rescue the Palestinian people from Israel’s repression and Israel from itself.
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Here here! All people are created equal and should be treated equally.
Look past the skin color, hair color, or origin to understand a persons soul.
Look past the skin color, hair color, or origin to understand a persons soul.
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The ME problem is that all of the concerned peoples now have so descended to the lowest levels of human interaction that have mostly ceased to be members of any ordinarily recognized "civil society". They are now a bunch of groups of enemiesw in permanent opposition to each other--not at all unlike the Jews and Greeks of the Ptolemaic Egyptian era of queen Cleopatra.
Permanrtly unable to live peacably side by side, they have long ceased to be even an approximation of the original US goal of establishing a fair, Americqan style democratic Western oriented state in the ME in order to thwart the USSR and the growing threat of post war threat of the Soviets. The Soviets are gone--their people now practically run the State of Isrtael from inside it. The US' job is long since finished. Leave them all to their own affairs.
Permanrtly unable to live peacably side by side, they have long ceased to be even an approximation of the original US goal of establishing a fair, Americqan style democratic Western oriented state in the ME in order to thwart the USSR and the growing threat of post war threat of the Soviets. The Soviets are gone--their people now practically run the State of Isrtael from inside it. The US' job is long since finished. Leave them all to their own affairs.
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Have the Palestinians yet rejected their "one to the exclusion of the other" doctrine, as provided in the founding documents of the P.L.O. and Hamas, in favor of a "two-state" solution? As long as they insist on a "single state" to the exclusion of Israel, Israel will remain that "single state." When Palestinians recognize that Israelis have the same right of self-determination, there will be progress on them having a state of their own coexisting in peace with Israel.
While Israel offered two proposals for evacuating most land captured in the 1967 "Six Day War" in exchange for peace, they have yet to proffer a "two-state" proposal of their own. Such a Palestinian proposal could be modeled on the Arab League Peace Proposal, providing for "land swaps" to compensate Palestinians for land taken for settlements, or it could be based on the Israeli offers ignored by Arafat and Abbas. An "all or nothing" perspective will guarantee that they get nothing.
The late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir said that "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." Since 1967 and the 1993 Oslo Accord, Palestinians have preferred that their children live with the boots of the I.D.F. on their necks. When that condition ends, peace will come!
While Israel offered two proposals for evacuating most land captured in the 1967 "Six Day War" in exchange for peace, they have yet to proffer a "two-state" proposal of their own. Such a Palestinian proposal could be modeled on the Arab League Peace Proposal, providing for "land swaps" to compensate Palestinians for land taken for settlements, or it could be based on the Israeli offers ignored by Arafat and Abbas. An "all or nothing" perspective will guarantee that they get nothing.
The late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir said that "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." Since 1967 and the 1993 Oslo Accord, Palestinians have preferred that their children live with the boots of the I.D.F. on their necks. When that condition ends, peace will come!
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Given all the anti Israel comments here, I am delighted that Netanyahu was reelected. The people of Israel and the Jewish people need a leader who is strong, steadfast and devoted to his people. If Israel does engage in any negotiations, it needs representatives who are tough and do not succumb to pressure.
I do not agree with everything Bibi says or does, but the man has a strong backbone and is very intelligent. He is by far the best person to engage in any difficult negotiations.
I do not agree with everything Bibi says or does, but the man has a strong backbone and is very intelligent. He is by far the best person to engage in any difficult negotiations.
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Israel wants to stick their finger in our eye? Fine. But no more US money. Let them fend for themselves. We have no interest in their self-created problems.
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Netanyahu seems to be an arrogant flip-flopping shrewd and petulant politician that will say anything to win.
If you think going racial on Arab Israelis, believing war is the only answer for all things and is a man that no one truly knows what he will say or do equates to being a strong leader, then your concept of strength differs from mine.
I just see a man willing to use hate and fear saying whatever it takes to win an election (sounds familiar). I see very little evidence where he has made Israel a better country, especially since he just destroyed any chances of a two-state peace deal.
If you think going racial on Arab Israelis, believing war is the only answer for all things and is a man that no one truly knows what he will say or do equates to being a strong leader, then your concept of strength differs from mine.
I just see a man willing to use hate and fear saying whatever it takes to win an election (sounds familiar). I see very little evidence where he has made Israel a better country, especially since he just destroyed any chances of a two-state peace deal.
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I bet you like Chris Christie, too. He, too, "has a strong backbone and is very intelligent." And as New Jersey slides into the fiscal and financial toilet thanks to his policies, at least he, like Bibi, is "tough."
Strong, loudmouth politicians who don't care at all about the consequences of their actions as long as they get reelected--and who know that someone else, including those with the most to lose, will always pay the price--are also known as "bullies."
Sadly, there seems to be a direct ratio between the strength of such people's "tough backbone" and the ignorance of the electorate, which keeps them in power through the voters' fear.
Strong, loudmouth politicians who don't care at all about the consequences of their actions as long as they get reelected--and who know that someone else, including those with the most to lose, will always pay the price--are also known as "bullies."
Sadly, there seems to be a direct ratio between the strength of such people's "tough backbone" and the ignorance of the electorate, which keeps them in power through the voters' fear.
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Not that it matters, but I certainly do not trust the election results. Israeli right wing leadership is capable of anything, the destruction in Gaza proves this.
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Here's hoping that the US and Israel are not such close friends in the future. Or even friends at all. Netanyahu has done us all the favor of ripping off the mask and revealing the truth of Israel in the 21st century: paranoid, chauvinist, belligerent, inhumane, antidemocratic.
Here's to you, Bibi. You have a few more years to deepen these wounds. Have at it. Please continue to insult our President, offend our sovereignty, intervene in our political process. May your arrogance alienate so many Americans that we finally say ENOUGH.
Here's to you, Bibi. You have a few more years to deepen these wounds. Have at it. Please continue to insult our President, offend our sovereignty, intervene in our political process. May your arrogance alienate so many Americans that we finally say ENOUGH.
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The timeline is now pretty clear. The end point is a GOP dominated congress hellbent on wresting any kind of control Obama exerts over the Iran nuclear issue and confronting Iran with ultimatums inevitably leading to yet another war ... all at the behest of the vast industrial military complex Eisenhower warned the nation about over sixty years ago. The starting point is the duplicitous Israel attack on an agreeement with Iran to restrict its atomic energy program to peaceful objectives when Israel itself has a covert arsenal of at least 200 nuclear weapons, won’t sign the NPT and refuses to join the IAEA. Connect the dots.
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And how is it that the U.S. gets around the Symington Amendment to keep giving them money???
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And Marshall warned Truman and even had some heated words for him, over the recognizing of the new Jewish state(which had yet to be named).
The problesm and difficulties of today's Israel were predicted back after the Second World War. When, it should be remembered, the Palestinian Jewsish population, instead of all volunteering to serve with the British actually fought against them,, effectively on the side of Germany during the War and continued to do so after. All because they thought that Britain owed them the land for some debt allegedly incurred in the Great War: the so called "Balfour declaration"--a case of unconscionable blackmail of a state in the throes of it's own existential crisis. But the Palestinian and Zionists Jews held that the British were worse criminals than the Germans .
The problesm and difficulties of today's Israel were predicted back after the Second World War. When, it should be remembered, the Palestinian Jewsish population, instead of all volunteering to serve with the British actually fought against them,, effectively on the side of Germany during the War and continued to do so after. All because they thought that Britain owed them the land for some debt allegedly incurred in the Great War: the so called "Balfour declaration"--a case of unconscionable blackmail of a state in the throes of it's own existential crisis. But the Palestinian and Zionists Jews held that the British were worse criminals than the Germans .
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If we get involved in another war, led by Israel's intransigence, I will never pay another tax dollar in my life. I will go to jail before I pay another penny.
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Israelis who voted for this egomaniac thought they'd be more secure. The reverse is true. He closed off the possibility of a Palestinian state & race-baited Arab Israelis. He also poisoned the close relationship with the U.S. by getting involved in our domestic politics -- on the wrong side.
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It's time for an international boycott of Israel which has become the new apartheid South Africa. Israeli-Arabs are second class citizens in their own homeland; Jews from Russia and other countries have full rights as citizens because they are Jews. Palestinians on the West Bank are merely tolerated if they behave themselves. Palestinians of Gaza are open-air prisoners.
Mr. Netanyahu advocates a “nationality bill” that would emphasize Israel’s Jewishness over its democratic nature. Arab parties have never joined an Israeli coalition, not wanting to be seen as complicit in Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli electorate knows all of this to be true. They have known all along that Bibi's "support" for a two-state solution was a lie. Anyone attending an illegal Israeli settlement opening at which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made a speech knows this to be a fact. The Israeli electorate knows this and they know that the reason is to placate the resolve of the American people for a peaceful solution to the Palestinian issue. But the Israeli electorate knows that this can never be. In their view, the lands upon the Palestinians live are historic Israel lands and must be so once again.
Israel has become an apartheid state in all but name.
The international cooperation tactics that destroyed the apartheid government of South Africa are necessary once again. The target now is the apartheid government of Israel.
Mr. Netanyahu advocates a “nationality bill” that would emphasize Israel’s Jewishness over its democratic nature. Arab parties have never joined an Israeli coalition, not wanting to be seen as complicit in Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
The Israeli electorate knows all of this to be true. They have known all along that Bibi's "support" for a two-state solution was a lie. Anyone attending an illegal Israeli settlement opening at which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made a speech knows this to be a fact. The Israeli electorate knows this and they know that the reason is to placate the resolve of the American people for a peaceful solution to the Palestinian issue. But the Israeli electorate knows that this can never be. In their view, the lands upon the Palestinians live are historic Israel lands and must be so once again.
Israel has become an apartheid state in all but name.
The international cooperation tactics that destroyed the apartheid government of South Africa are necessary once again. The target now is the apartheid government of Israel.
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Israeli-Arabs actually receive more rights living in Israel than they do in most of their own countries. Furthermore, the Israeli-Arabs have representation because they have the ability to vote for candidates to represent them. And while you bash the Israeli government for being not democratic enough, just remember that Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah party in Palestine supports terrorism and posted a picture of skulls with the Star of David on them to celebrate their 50th anniversary. In fact, Israel was applauded for its efforts to prevent civilian damage in its effective offensive against Hamas. If you call Israel an apartheid state, remember that Palestine is influenced predominantly by Hamas and Fatah, which are not nearly as democratic or humane as Israel's government.
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Your first statement is: "Israeli-Arabs actually receive more rights living in Israel than they do in most of their own countries."
That's kind of an odd thing to say about a democracy -- a form of government in which, theoretically, every citizen has equal rights.
Israel is their country, is it not? I made the statement in my original post: "Israeli-Arabs are second class citizens in their own homeland; Jews from Russia and other countries have full rights as citizens because they are Jews." Is there any part of this statement with which you disagree?
The following statement that I made is lifted from this New York Times article upon which you are now making comment: "Mr. Netanyahu advocates a “nationality bill” that would emphasize Israel’s Jewishness over its democratic nature."
In what kind of democracy do you think that a citizen of one religion has more rights than a citizen who believes in a different religion? The answer, of course, is in a "Netanyahu" democracy.
That's kind of an odd thing to say about a democracy -- a form of government in which, theoretically, every citizen has equal rights.
Israel is their country, is it not? I made the statement in my original post: "Israeli-Arabs are second class citizens in their own homeland; Jews from Russia and other countries have full rights as citizens because they are Jews." Is there any part of this statement with which you disagree?
The following statement that I made is lifted from this New York Times article upon which you are now making comment: "Mr. Netanyahu advocates a “nationality bill” that would emphasize Israel’s Jewishness over its democratic nature."
In what kind of democracy do you think that a citizen of one religion has more rights than a citizen who believes in a different religion? The answer, of course, is in a "Netanyahu" democracy.
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America's worst frenemy just re-elected a guy who followed GOP tricks: racism, dog whistles and the like. Israel really does deserve the bad rep it gets.
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yes it does, they reelected netanyahu
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(Reuters) - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu owes his election win to Israeli security fears, notably about Iran's growing regional influence, said an official of a Gulf Arab government wary of Tehran's progress towards a nuclear deal with world powers.
"With Iran emerging again, it was highly expected that Netanyahu would win," said the Gulf Arab official, who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the matter.
***"He's a man who believes strongly in protecting his people, and this is what Israel wants now."***
The Gulf Arab states, led by dominant Gulf Sunni Muslim power Saudi Arabia, see Shi'ite Iran as their main regional rival and fear an atomic deal could lead to Tehran developing a nuclear weapon, or could ease political pressure on it, giving it more space to back Arab proxies opposed by Riyadh."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/18/us-israel-election-gulfarabs-i...
Again: ***"He's a man who believes strongly in protecting his people, and this is what Israel wants now."***
Not what some of the Well Informed commenters here would want for themselves and their children had they lived in the Middle East in the shadow of nuclear Iran, now already at war with the Sunni Arab world.
"With Iran emerging again, it was highly expected that Netanyahu would win," said the Gulf Arab official, who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the matter.
***"He's a man who believes strongly in protecting his people, and this is what Israel wants now."***
The Gulf Arab states, led by dominant Gulf Sunni Muslim power Saudi Arabia, see Shi'ite Iran as their main regional rival and fear an atomic deal could lead to Tehran developing a nuclear weapon, or could ease political pressure on it, giving it more space to back Arab proxies opposed by Riyadh."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/18/us-israel-election-gulfarabs-i...
Again: ***"He's a man who believes strongly in protecting his people, and this is what Israel wants now."***
Not what some of the Well Informed commenters here would want for themselves and their children had they lived in the Middle East in the shadow of nuclear Iran, now already at war with the Sunni Arab world.
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Baloney. Israelis don't fear Iran, that is nonsense. They have upwards of 100 nukes and the chutzpah to use them. The simply want to steal land to expand.
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Israeli or Gulf State interests cannot and will not supersede American interests no matter how many politicians the 'donors' buy. They should get used to that reality. Iran is the ONLY country that has stability and is contributing positively to threats to US interests.
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No one believes this line anymore. It has come to seem like a flimsy pretext for the endless Israeli occupation of the Palestinians and Israel's endless wars with its neighbors.
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Anyone who thinks there could be peace with Muslims without losing the land is in a fools paradise. India, China, Philippines, Israel, Russia, Serbia are all good examples for this.
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The "land" does not belong to Israelis. Get your facts straight. Facts do not come from churches or bibles, they come from history books.
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Muslims deserved the land there not only that China wants indoors land. Serbian massacred Bosnian then Bosnian received their land. India is the second most populous Muslim country in the world Muslims are proud Indians as I am.
Yes how can there be peace in palestine when Israel keeps Looting and occupying their land which the world says is Palestinian land
So in what world are you living that you think Palestinians getting their ancestral land is, unjust
Yes how can there be peace in palestine when Israel keeps Looting and occupying their land which the world says is Palestinian land
So in what world are you living that you think Palestinians getting their ancestral land is, unjust
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Good, WestSider, since historical facts overwhelmingly prove - beyond any shadow of a doubt - the unbroken connection between the Nation of Israel to the Land of Israel, going back millenia.
He tells his people his true intentions while he lies to the west, and US media just eats it up to enable him.
"“What Netanyahu said publicly – ‘No two-state solution on my watch’ – which is something this administration believes in strongly,” said Ilan Goldenberg, a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security. “You have video of Netanyahu sitting there diagramming how settlements are to keep Palestinians from having two states.”
Goldenberg was referring to the NRG interview, conducted during Netanyahu’s visit to the Jerusalem neighborhood of Har Homa on the eve of Election Day, during which he said he had authorized construction of the neighborhood in 1997 to prevent contiguity between Bethlehem and Arab neighborhoods in eastern Jerusalem.""
http://forward.com/articles/216991/will-benjamin-netanyahu-reelection-fu...
"“What Netanyahu said publicly – ‘No two-state solution on my watch’ – which is something this administration believes in strongly,” said Ilan Goldenberg, a senior fellow at the Center for a New American Security. “You have video of Netanyahu sitting there diagramming how settlements are to keep Palestinians from having two states.”
Goldenberg was referring to the NRG interview, conducted during Netanyahu’s visit to the Jerusalem neighborhood of Har Homa on the eve of Election Day, during which he said he had authorized construction of the neighborhood in 1997 to prevent contiguity between Bethlehem and Arab neighborhoods in eastern Jerusalem.""
http://forward.com/articles/216991/will-benjamin-netanyahu-reelection-fu...
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It always seems to be a crime against both democracy and humanity when a politician that so obviously appeals to the worst instincts of his/her people wins a democratic election. Americans witnessed such a tragedy last November, when the Republican Party's whipping up of hysteria regarding both the ebola epidemic and ISIL, combined with its national campaign to suppress the vote, led to its taking control of the United States Congress. And now we have Bibi Netanyahu's pyrrhic victory in Israel.
As has been apparent since the Republican Party took control of Congress in January, such "democratic victories" do not enhance democracy in the afflicted country and in a world of humanity hungry for a more civilized existence. They lead merely to more chaos.
Democracy in both Israel and the United States of America lies bleeding.
As has been apparent since the Republican Party took control of Congress in January, such "democratic victories" do not enhance democracy in the afflicted country and in a world of humanity hungry for a more civilized existence. They lead merely to more chaos.
Democracy in both Israel and the United States of America lies bleeding.
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So democracy only exists if the Democratic Party wins???
Democracy (lower case) does not mean that the smartest people or the nicest people or even the best people win elections. It means that people get to choose who they want to represent them(at least in a representative democracy), dumb choices in a democracy is still democratic.
Democracy (lower case) does not mean that the smartest people or the nicest people or even the best people win elections. It means that people get to choose who they want to represent them(at least in a representative democracy), dumb choices in a democracy is still democratic.
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It is a bit hard to see how Mr. Netanyahu can be set on a new track by his election win since he was renewed and supported in all his extremist beliefs and will no doubt take his electoral victory as encouragement to continue leading his country down the road to more settlements and to loss of credibility with the international community. The Netanyahu "victory" is really a setback for Israel as he leads it farther into the wilderness of Palestinian occupation and ruthless denial of Palestinian human rights. There is no longer any doubt of what Mr. Netanyahu's real stance on Palestinian statehood is as he let his true feelings slip out from under his usual double talk.
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Experts expect Bibi to walk back his comment that there will never be a Palestinian state. I'm no expert and I will question the intelligence of anyone who believes him if he does so. The assertion that he will stop building settlements is ludicrus. Bibi wants an apartheid state until Israel can arrve at some sort of final solution for the Palestinians. The Palestinians, out of frustration, will continue to lob rockets into Israel and and the IDF will "mow the grass" in Gaza murdering civilians and making an already barely tolerable existence even worse, while cowardly American politicians purchased with Jewish lobby money, will pledge their continued support to Israel.
BUT-more and more Americans are tiring f seeing our tax dollars being used to kill children; of Israel leaders treating America as if we need them and not they who need us; of their disrespect and humiliation of our leaders. Israel make s grave mistake in assuming they can continue to behave as they have. For the first time today I went to the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions website. I have contacted my two Senators and congressional representative, all Democrats, and told them that they will assert themselves in response to Israeli misbehavior and stop being Zionist lapdogs, or they will no longer get my vote. I haven't been this angry since Jeb Bush threw the election to his brother George.
BUT-more and more Americans are tiring f seeing our tax dollars being used to kill children; of Israel leaders treating America as if we need them and not they who need us; of their disrespect and humiliation of our leaders. Israel make s grave mistake in assuming they can continue to behave as they have. For the first time today I went to the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions website. I have contacted my two Senators and congressional representative, all Democrats, and told them that they will assert themselves in response to Israeli misbehavior and stop being Zionist lapdogs, or they will no longer get my vote. I haven't been this angry since Jeb Bush threw the election to his brother George.
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I understand that Israel' Parliament is famously fractious, but a "clear mandate?"
"With a commanding 30 of Parliament’s 120 seats, compared to the 24 won by his center-left opponent, Mr. Netanyahu said he would work quickly to solidify a new government."
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Netanyahu *still* needs to maintain 61 votes, which means that his coalition partners will actually be the larger part of the governing majority, no? I'm not sure how that adds up to a clear mandate? Is it because pollsters got it wrong leading up to the election?
"With a commanding 30 of Parliament’s 120 seats, compared to the 24 won by his center-left opponent, Mr. Netanyahu said he would work quickly to solidify a new government."
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Netanyahu *still* needs to maintain 61 votes, which means that his coalition partners will actually be the larger part of the governing majority, no? I'm not sure how that adds up to a clear mandate? Is it because pollsters got it wrong leading up to the election?
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He won a clear plurality - six seats more than his closest opponent. In Israel's system that's a very significant difference.
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His take is also obviously 25% of the Knesset ministers so not exactly overwhelming, but it was enough to prove that the Israelis could care less what "the hand that feeds them" has to say...for now.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part...but I predict that Mr. Netanyahu will not be able to form a coalition, and will not be Israel's next Prime Minister.
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Bibi has crossed the United States. Israel will never get our trust back after this.
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I am not so sure that I can agree with you. Our next President will be Republican and a woman who will work hand in hand with Israel for the betterment of both countries.
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Our trust may be gone, but our support will continue unabated - count on it. Follow the $.
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Time and again, we have seen theocracy take trump democracy, and it always turns out the same. Fairness, equality and decency lose, and tyranny triumphs.
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Perhaps now Congress can get back to the interests of the American people -- if that's alright with AIPAC and Israel.
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It's not all about Netanyahu. It's about a nation that has supported actions that Netanyahu has declared to be just. it's about a nation that, for 66 years, has done what Netanyahu had the temerity (or need) to express. Let's not pretend things would be better with the more moderate parties. Now is the time for governments all over the world to see things as they are, and to see Israel as it is.
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It no longer makes sense to me why the US continues such a large foreign aid support to Israel, with such a poor return on investment.
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Why can't this country detach itself from Israel?
The relationship has benefited only Israel, not the US. It has earned us
the fierce enmity of Palestinian and Arabic peoples, and the severe
disapproval of much of the rest of the world. It has cost us incredible
sums in treasure, and blood, and what do the American people get? A
two-bit hotshot from a tiny Middle East country called bibi who comes to our Congress and thumbs his nose openly at the President of the United States.
It is time...no, well past time... for the U.S. to cut its ties to Israel. They
have had decades to come to a reasonable solution respecting their place in
the Middle East, and their answer is to continue building settlements on the West Bank and rain bombs on the people of Gaza, a sharp stick in the eye to the Palestinian people. Why do we tolerate this behavior? How much is too much?
America needs to shed Israel and forge a Middle East policy based on its
own interests.
The relationship has benefited only Israel, not the US. It has earned us
the fierce enmity of Palestinian and Arabic peoples, and the severe
disapproval of much of the rest of the world. It has cost us incredible
sums in treasure, and blood, and what do the American people get? A
two-bit hotshot from a tiny Middle East country called bibi who comes to our Congress and thumbs his nose openly at the President of the United States.
It is time...no, well past time... for the U.S. to cut its ties to Israel. They
have had decades to come to a reasonable solution respecting their place in
the Middle East, and their answer is to continue building settlements on the West Bank and rain bombs on the people of Gaza, a sharp stick in the eye to the Palestinian people. Why do we tolerate this behavior? How much is too much?
America needs to shed Israel and forge a Middle East policy based on its
own interests.
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This commentator is dead wrong on so many counts. Let's pick one point he makes, namely that Israel is the only party that has gotten anything in the American-Israeli relationship. Israel has done many, many things for the United States, often things that are not well-publicized and that many liberal Zionists would not be proud of. Very simply, Israel does America's dirty work; that is the compensation that Israel tenders. For example, after Congress forbade aid to the Contras of Nicaragua, one of the sources of AID became Israel. Not because Israel wanted to do it, but because the United States demanded that Israel kick back part of its foreign aid, from the US, to the contras. Since Israel is virtually friendless, she is, unfortunately, compelled to do whatever America insists.
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"Very simply, Israel does America's dirty work; that is the compensation that Israel tenders. For example, after Congress forbade aid to the Contras of Nicaragua, one of the sources of AID became Israel."
I'm sorry....I'm having trouble understanding this. Are you saying that aiding the contras and allowing the executive to undermine Congressional intent were things to be grateful for?
I'm sorry....I'm having trouble understanding this. Are you saying that aiding the contras and allowing the executive to undermine Congressional intent were things to be grateful for?
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While I support the protection of the nation of Israel, I don't want my tax dollars going to this war lord.
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Yes, Bibi won. But can we please stop blaming all Israelis for this result? Many did not vote for him - although unfortunately enough did. Remember when our country voted for Bush twice? And possibly will do so for another Bush in 2016? Liberal Israel will need our support.
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"Liberal Israel will need our support."
There is no 'liberal Israel' to speak of. Over 58% of Israeli Jews have proven to be not moderates by way of voting, forget liberal. No party in Israel ran on a platform of peace, or 2 state solution.
There is no 'liberal Israel' to speak of. Over 58% of Israeli Jews have proven to be not moderates by way of voting, forget liberal. No party in Israel ran on a platform of peace, or 2 state solution.
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"As for Mr. Netanyahu’s declaration on the eve of the election that no Palestinian state would be created on his watch — contrary to his avowed support of one since 2009 — several experts said they expected him to walk it back. "
Well, of course. How else can they continue the scam they've been pulling off for 48 years?
Here's an interesting read for everyone. An eye opener for most Americans who are only now slowly catching on.
"What Do Israelis Think About Americans? Start With Disdain.
Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.
“Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”
“Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”"
http://forward.com/articles/216074/what-do-israelis-think-about-american...
Well, of course. How else can they continue the scam they've been pulling off for 48 years?
Here's an interesting read for everyone. An eye opener for most Americans who are only now slowly catching on.
"What Do Israelis Think About Americans? Start With Disdain.
Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.
“Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,” said David Lifshitz, the lead writer for the Israeli comedy show “Eretz Nehederet,” or “Wonderful Land.”
“Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”"
http://forward.com/articles/216074/what-do-israelis-think-about-american...
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It's clear what Netanyahu and his allies are doing. They always found reasons not to compromise in negotiations. During the election, he stated the end of a 2 state solution. Keep the wall high. Encourage settlements in West Bank territory. Keep encouraging more Jews to resettle in Israel until the population is high enough to ensure a Jewish majority. Integrate West Bank Palestinians further into the economy. Turn Gaza over to Egypt. Voila! A single Jewish state.
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And use the pretext of 'security' to provoke utterly unjustified wars against neighbors in which defenseless civilian populations are bombed into oblivion to teach lessons about the consequences of fighting for freedom against Israeli oppression.
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Israelis voted for a candidate that said: he doesn't believe in 2 States solution. Just imagine for a second the Palestinians voting for a candidate that doesn't recognize Israel. Polticians and the press in the US would be asking to stop all US aids to the Palestinians. Instead, Netanyahu is receiving Congratulations calls from Kerry and the Times is talking about what Netanyahu might do or might not do in the future.
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Is this supposed to be ironic? The PLO and Hamas's charter call for the destruction of Israel - they don't recognize Israel as a legitimate state.
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Title Holder, you write, "Just imagine for a second the Palestinians voting for a candidate that doesn't recognize Israel." Actually they did. It is called Hamas. As a Jew who supports a two-State solution, I am terribly disappointed in Netanyahu and what he stands for. But truth also needs to enter the picture; else there will never be a peaceful solution.
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Palestinians did vote for a party that doesn't recognize the Israeli state. They voted for Hamas. And the U.S. media and politicians did have a field day. The U.S. gov.
threatened to stop funding them. The U.S. gov. and media should publicly do the same to Israeli now.
threatened to stop funding them. The U.S. gov. and media should publicly do the same to Israeli now.
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In my view, never have the American people seen the internal dynamics of Israeli politics more broadly revealed, our tax- payer funding of that nation questioned, the funding influence by Israel supporters upon our own political representatives made more transparent and the resultant divisions within both nations broadened. I have witnessed many heated arguments regarding the Israeli elections, the intervention of Mr. Netanyahu into the American body politic, the questioning of our support for Israel etc.. Unfortunately, Mr. Netanyahu and his party may have won the battle but lost the war.
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Since the Israelis have voted for a man that has apparently publicly supported apartheid for Palestinians, it's time that the U.S. cast them off. Netanyahu is a war criminal responsible in the deaths of thousands of Palestinian women and children, and the electorate in Israel has voiced their support for him.
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I agree, throw them under the bus. I never thought I would lose my support for Israel, but I have now. Give up the settlements-completely, restore West Bank to 1967 borders, agree to two-state solution and stop interfering with U.S. foreign policy.
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@David Beglinger --
Why stop with the 1967 borders? Let's take it all back to the Green Line Armistice borders of 1949 -- which left Jordan, having captured and the West Bank and East Jerusalem to actually annex those parcels, and Egypt with control of the Gaza Strip. These friends left their fellow Arabs with much less of the land proposed by the UN partition for a Palestinian state.
Yup, throw those land grabbing Israelis under the bus and rid them of the albatross that is the West Bank and East Jerusalem. (Egypt was smart enough to negotiate a peace treaty with Israel nearly forty years ago in which Sinai was returned, but they really didn't want Gaza. And the Jordanians wouldn't make peace unless the Israelis took back the West Bank and East Jerusalem)
How about we ask the Palestinians and their proxies to agree to a two state solution? As far as I know, that has never ever been their plan, else why would the list of "deals" or "near deals" be so long, including Madrid, Oslo, Camp David -- and even a Nobel Peace prize for Arafat?
I never thought I would lose my patience or support for a two-state solution, but does anyone really think it can work until and unless the Palestinians have leaders who are at least as honest as that thug Bibi?
Why stop with the 1967 borders? Let's take it all back to the Green Line Armistice borders of 1949 -- which left Jordan, having captured and the West Bank and East Jerusalem to actually annex those parcels, and Egypt with control of the Gaza Strip. These friends left their fellow Arabs with much less of the land proposed by the UN partition for a Palestinian state.
Yup, throw those land grabbing Israelis under the bus and rid them of the albatross that is the West Bank and East Jerusalem. (Egypt was smart enough to negotiate a peace treaty with Israel nearly forty years ago in which Sinai was returned, but they really didn't want Gaza. And the Jordanians wouldn't make peace unless the Israelis took back the West Bank and East Jerusalem)
How about we ask the Palestinians and their proxies to agree to a two state solution? As far as I know, that has never ever been their plan, else why would the list of "deals" or "near deals" be so long, including Madrid, Oslo, Camp David -- and even a Nobel Peace prize for Arafat?
I never thought I would lose my patience or support for a two-state solution, but does anyone really think it can work until and unless the Palestinians have leaders who are at least as honest as that thug Bibi?
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From what I gather, what remains of the left in Israel is despondent. This could galvanize something well beyond just the Arabs and Palestinians. The seething anger is palpable!
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A virtual tie is being interpreted as a clear mandate?
Wow is that ever a stretch.
Wow is that ever a stretch.
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What virtual tie? The moderates won 39 seats, right-wingers won 67, Arabs won 14. As far as Jewish voters, it's a landslide for right-wingers (39 vs. 67), not a "virtual tie".
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As an Israeli ex-pat, I find the results incredibly depressing. Netanyahu has ruled for the last 6 years with a much stronger parlamentary base than many other Israeli PM's that had made much more dramatic moves. I doubt he will make any historical steps - it's simply not in his nature. He will simply do what he needs to stay in office. Unfortunately, in doing so, he will continue Israel's decay in many dimensions, from the erosion of the supreme court and other democratic institutions, to the continuation of settlements toward closing the option for the two state solution.
I don't think Iran was a big factor in the results. Neither Obama nor other world leaders should let Netanyahu dictate the terms of agreement with Iran. While Israel has good reasons to want Iran in a state of permanent sanctions (which is the true intention of Netanyahu, who clearly does not believe that the Iranian regime would agree to anything close to the terms he has outlined), Israel is not in existential danger from Iran. If it was, then a 10+ year delay in the need to attack Iran would have been a godsend.
However, I think the U.S. administration should not be spending its time and energy trying to promote a "peace process" between Israel and the Palestinian leadership that will clearly lead nowhere. They should scale back their involvement, but also their automatic "diplomatic shield" for Israel wrt to the UN or Europe. Israel is a strong enough country and can fend for itself.
I don't think Iran was a big factor in the results. Neither Obama nor other world leaders should let Netanyahu dictate the terms of agreement with Iran. While Israel has good reasons to want Iran in a state of permanent sanctions (which is the true intention of Netanyahu, who clearly does not believe that the Iranian regime would agree to anything close to the terms he has outlined), Israel is not in existential danger from Iran. If it was, then a 10+ year delay in the need to attack Iran would have been a godsend.
However, I think the U.S. administration should not be spending its time and energy trying to promote a "peace process" between Israel and the Palestinian leadership that will clearly lead nowhere. They should scale back their involvement, but also their automatic "diplomatic shield" for Israel wrt to the UN or Europe. Israel is a strong enough country and can fend for itself.
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Not that most Arabs would accept the existence of Israel in the Levant. But when the Israeli PM abandons the moral high ground in order to win reelection, that guarantees further turmoil and exacerbates worldwide anti-Semitism. I foresee an acceleration of boycotts of Israel across Europe and in some areas of the USA, including a number of college towns and cities. Israel will be further ostracized in the UN and the USA will have to expend international political clout to cover for Israel, possibly vetoing resolutions declaring a Palestinian state. The whole issue of Israel will be another partisan issue in the USA political scrum. The Israeli government will side with and support Republicans in all future elections. The problem long term for Israel is that the demographically ascendant groups in the USA are not particularly supportive of Israel. Netanyahu may seem like a political genius short-term, but Arab rejectionists look to the long term, and long term history may judge Netanyahu harshly for going with a one-state solution. That’s the one thing he now has in common with Hamas.
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On what basis would one expect that Mr. Netanyahu is going to do anything after this election that would be inconsistent with the things he has done and said before this election? That would be entirely perverse. He will oppose the two state solution - even more strongly, marginalize all Arab-Israelis and do everything to block any negotiated settlement between the US lead effort and Iran. In summary a bully as he has always been. This is what Israel voted for and this is what they and the world will get.
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Rebuild and redefine!!??
You've got to be kidding me.
More like revenge and payback.
There is no hope for peace in any form. Period.
The GOP and Likud have created a multi-national party with Bibi as the strongman. We, America are the junior partners.
You've got to be kidding me.
More like revenge and payback.
There is no hope for peace in any form. Period.
The GOP and Likud have created a multi-national party with Bibi as the strongman. We, America are the junior partners.
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There will be no peace as long as ISIS and other Muslim extremists exist.
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Iran is fighting ISIS. Does that make the enemy of my enemy my friend?
The real shame is that the entire international community would have been behind Israel trying to build a new, non-apartheid, coalition.
Israel would have had more support from everywhere against anyone trying to assail it, in contrast to Netanyahu insisting that Obama's "appeasement" of Iran forces him to act in such vile ways.
Israel closes itself off more from the world, responding to Netanyahu's unabashed lies about Iran over the years brought to a head recently. And he will continue to incite against Arabs wherever he can.
Sad for Israel and those who tried, and hoped, to oust him. Sad for the world.
Israel would have had more support from everywhere against anyone trying to assail it, in contrast to Netanyahu insisting that Obama's "appeasement" of Iran forces him to act in such vile ways.
Israel closes itself off more from the world, responding to Netanyahu's unabashed lies about Iran over the years brought to a head recently. And he will continue to incite against Arabs wherever he can.
Sad for Israel and those who tried, and hoped, to oust him. Sad for the world.
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We need to support the UN resolution, cut all aid to Israel, including military aid, and join with the Europeans to isolate Israel, which is a rogue state and the prime obsticle to peace in the region. They are no longer an ally and in many ways they are an enemy of the U.S. These actions need to happen quickly. From now on we need to only do what is purely in our national interest. Israel has meddled in the internal affairs for the last time. Let's reach an agreement with Iran and turn a blind eye to Israel, which is not an ally and should not be consulted in any way whatsoever.
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The new cause of the Left is defending Iran at all costs. While simultaneously appearing to call for the demise of Israel. How did we get to this point?
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Nobody wants the demise of Israel. But can you explain to me how Iran is fundamentally different than, say, Pakistan, one of our allies (who incidentally has the nuclear bomb)? Both nations aren't particularly trustworthy but neither one is keen on starting a nuclear war. They have moderates as well as Islamist factions, and all they crave the ability to do some sabre-rattling when dealing with their close neighbors. But Iran is no more an existential threat to the U.S. (or to Israel) than Pakistan is.
Israel, on the other hand, takes 2 billion a year of our tax dollars while insulting and ignoring our requests to stop settlements. They can do all that without our money.
Israel, on the other hand, takes 2 billion a year of our tax dollars while insulting and ignoring our requests to stop settlements. They can do all that without our money.
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The United States must turn it's back on Israel and let it go its own way as an independent nation. America has done its share to prop Israel up. It's time it stood for itself.
If Americans want to help Israel they should become Israeli citizens. Israel's needs are not the needs of America. We have our own citizens to consider.
If Americans want to help Israel they should become Israeli citizens. Israel's needs are not the needs of America. We have our own citizens to consider.
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Just like we did in the late 1920's and 1930's. How did that work out for the Jewish people?
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There seems to be this assumption that had Netanyahu lost then there would have been a peace deal with the Palestinians. However the basic peace deal with the Palestinians, a state with a capital in Jerusalem and land swaps for the major settlement blocks, is what both parties have offered in the past and Netanyahu offered just last year.
And the Palestinians have walked away from this deal at every single peace talks held. And it made no difference who or which party was making the offer. So there is no reason to believe that there is any difference between the two parties as far as reaching a peace deal with the Palestinians.
And as far as Gaza goes, Hamas is hard at work preparing for the next war, and they will fight this war regardless of who is in power. After all they are "resisting" the existence of the state of Israel itself. And since no leader of any country will sit by and do nothing while his country is bombarded with rockets the Israelis will respond.
As far as the west bank is concerned special forces will continue to arrest those planning terror attacks, regardless of who is in power. Border patrol officers will continue to police demonstrations against the separation barrier which occasionally results in the death of Palestinians. And Israel will continue to build "settlements" in Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem that are on the other side of the green line.
So Israel will continue as it is committing the same "war crimes" regardless of who is in power.
And the Palestinians have walked away from this deal at every single peace talks held. And it made no difference who or which party was making the offer. So there is no reason to believe that there is any difference between the two parties as far as reaching a peace deal with the Palestinians.
And as far as Gaza goes, Hamas is hard at work preparing for the next war, and they will fight this war regardless of who is in power. After all they are "resisting" the existence of the state of Israel itself. And since no leader of any country will sit by and do nothing while his country is bombarded with rockets the Israelis will respond.
As far as the west bank is concerned special forces will continue to arrest those planning terror attacks, regardless of who is in power. Border patrol officers will continue to police demonstrations against the separation barrier which occasionally results in the death of Palestinians. And Israel will continue to build "settlements" in Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem that are on the other side of the green line.
So Israel will continue as it is committing the same "war crimes" regardless of who is in power.
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There is no "clear" mandate". The only thing settled seems to be that with BN as PM Israel will not pursue meaningful peace and a two-state solution. Many of us have thought and felt that for the last 67 years, but now it has been substantiated by the PM himself. That is the "gift" of this election.
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This man has shown total contempt for an elected President of the United States and has sought to undermine our National interests to subordinate them to his agenda.
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They have set the stage of there own demise, when you are now being viewed racist by the wold all support ans good will is over, they are surrounded by people that hate them already, and now the rest of the wold.
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If we were to hate a country for its stupidity, a lot of us need to get on the Mars shuttle. And well away from the America that launched perhaps the stupidest war of our history (no mean achievement, considering the Spanish-American and Vietnam), and now has right-wingers yelling for please, sir, may I have some more.
Israel has more than earned this country's support: one doesn't turn the back on honored friends for their ugliness.
What we say is: you're wrong. You're being foolish. We can all do better.
Israel has more than earned this country's support: one doesn't turn the back on honored friends for their ugliness.
What we say is: you're wrong. You're being foolish. We can all do better.
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What we say is, after 40 years of this kind of behavior from your state:
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
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I was not surprised that Netanyahu was re-elected. He is clever as a snake oil salesman and a sizable number of the Israeli people were deceived by his lies, promotion of fear and false sense of security. Denying the Palestinians their right to statehood will be a huge mistake and will most likely fuel another war. Who would want to live constantly under the gun, with the fear of rockets falling in their backyards?
It doesn't mater how clever Netanyahu thinks he is. The continued oppression of the Palestinian people can not go on forever and sooner than later Israel will find itself isolated from the world Community.
It doesn't mater how clever Netanyahu thinks he is. The continued oppression of the Palestinian people can not go on forever and sooner than later Israel will find itself isolated from the world Community.
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The Israeli people are constantly being terrorized by their "neighbors". It has been 70 years since the liberation of the Nazi death camps, and the amount of anti-Israel talk is truly sickening and disgusting. Israel is our one and only ally and all I hear is how Israel is the only aggressor. Israel is simply fighting for its survival.
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Israel needs to deal realistically with the Palestinians. You know,
the people that were there before the Israelis. This it has failed to do.
Instead, it has leaned on the United States to prop up its bankrupt
policy towards its neighbors and the Palestinians. We have paid dearly for it and gotten nothing. It is time for the United States to start looking toward its own interests in the Middle East, rather than responding to every one of Netanyahu's whims, at great cost to American taxpayers.
the people that were there before the Israelis. This it has failed to do.
Instead, it has leaned on the United States to prop up its bankrupt
policy towards its neighbors and the Palestinians. We have paid dearly for it and gotten nothing. It is time for the United States to start looking toward its own interests in the Middle East, rather than responding to every one of Netanyahu's whims, at great cost to American taxpayers.
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@Paul Johnson
Yes, Israel needs to deal realistically with the Palestinians. You know, that once tiny group of at most 500,000 Arabs who fled or were expelled in the 1948 war, that group of refugees among millions and millions of people who fled or were expelled from their homelands in the conflicts of the 1930s and 40s who are the ONLY group among them never to have been permanently resettled, who have their own private UN permanent refugee agency, and who, under the "genocidal" occupation of the Israelis now number more than 10 times what they were then. Those people who were there before there was an Israel, but who lived alongside the remnant of Jews who had lived in the Levant since the destruction of the Second Temple and the beginning of the Diaspora.
And what will that "realistic" deal consist of? Will it be the same deal to be offered to the nearly 1,000,000 Jewish citizens of Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and other Arab lands who were expelled or fled from their homes after the UN partition proposal? Uh, guess not. All those people have been resettled (mostly in Israel) for many decades.
Yes, Israel needs to deal realistically with the Palestinians. You know, that once tiny group of at most 500,000 Arabs who fled or were expelled in the 1948 war, that group of refugees among millions and millions of people who fled or were expelled from their homelands in the conflicts of the 1930s and 40s who are the ONLY group among them never to have been permanently resettled, who have their own private UN permanent refugee agency, and who, under the "genocidal" occupation of the Israelis now number more than 10 times what they were then. Those people who were there before there was an Israel, but who lived alongside the remnant of Jews who had lived in the Levant since the destruction of the Second Temple and the beginning of the Diaspora.
And what will that "realistic" deal consist of? Will it be the same deal to be offered to the nearly 1,000,000 Jewish citizens of Egypt, Libya, Syria, Yemen and other Arab lands who were expelled or fled from their homes after the UN partition proposal? Uh, guess not. All those people have been resettled (mostly in Israel) for many decades.
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The sad part about Israel is that it only exists as a creation of the United States. Without our economic and military aid, it would not have survived for the last 67 years. Israel is unlikely to survive another 67 years without continued U.S. and world community support.
The path embarked on by Israel in this election calls into question this continued support. After all, how long can the world support a conflict where religious extremists hold veto power over any peace plan? The economics and risks associated with a unstable status quo as exists today is unacceptable. The world will simply walk away.
Israel will never be defeated militarily. But it will slowly dissolve as a country as people grow weary of the conflict and move away. All that will remain is a permanent military outpost in a sea of hostility. Good luck with that.
Other than being re-elected, does Bibi have a plan for the next five years other than antagonizing every country on then planet?
The path embarked on by Israel in this election calls into question this continued support. After all, how long can the world support a conflict where religious extremists hold veto power over any peace plan? The economics and risks associated with a unstable status quo as exists today is unacceptable. The world will simply walk away.
Israel will never be defeated militarily. But it will slowly dissolve as a country as people grow weary of the conflict and move away. All that will remain is a permanent military outpost in a sea of hostility. Good luck with that.
Other than being re-elected, does Bibi have a plan for the next five years other than antagonizing every country on then planet?
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For those of us who like rational politics and secular states, this is just more bad news. It seems we can never get around religious extremes "the Bible says it is mine", nationalism "my ancestors are better than yours", or colonial rule "Me and my friends are stronger, therefore I will impose on you a way of life you and your people diserve". My Jewish friends are all secular and living fortunately away from Israel. The promised land, guys, is where you and your family can be happy...with yourselves. Israel has gotten into a neurosis, I am afraid...
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Let's not forget that Israel, for all of their fear of Iran building nuclear weapons, themselves have a nuclear arsenal (shhh, it's a secret). How do we know that they won't use their own weapons in a middle east conflict?
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Perhaps it really is time for the US Administration to rethink the "special monetary relationship" with Israel so that that money can be put to better use in the USA.
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The Israelis have elected the wrong candidate. I have always believed that they should never have given up the west bank. But that time is, indeed way behind us. There should now be countries living side by side. I am not all happy about it because the palestinians could have had a home a long time ago, if the arab states had given them one, instead of letting them live in squalor in those fetid camps. This is not the time for Netanyahu, it is the time for someone who will finally bring peace to the middle east.
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Stephen Folkson
As a late friend of mine, Friedlander, used to say on occasion when I asked a question about life, history or for his advice: 'you are going in the wrong direction...' Perhaps it is a great Palestinian leader who will rise from the ashes and bring peace to the Middle East.
As a late friend of mine, Friedlander, used to say on occasion when I asked a question about life, history or for his advice: 'you are going in the wrong direction...' Perhaps it is a great Palestinian leader who will rise from the ashes and bring peace to the Middle East.
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Netanyahu deserves respect for honestly stating what may have been true for a long time: that Israel is not working to a two-state solution. That simplifies the problem, solidifying the analogy to apartheid and reinforcing divestment as the best strategy to achieve peace.
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Does Israel actually expect to receive billions of dollars in US aid and not expect the US to not have any influence? It is amazing that such a small and insignificant county has such influence in the US Congress. The cold war is over and there is no oil in Israel. At the same time it is trying to draw the US into a war with Iran. Israel is not a true democracy since it treats its Arab citizens as second class. The US has no treaty with Israel. What is the benefit of the US providing billions of dollars in aid to Israel? It is time to rethink the relationship with Israel.
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There are two benefits; one, to create instability in the region, which will keep the oil flowing and prevent a unified approach to dealing with Israel and the US. The second is the Jewish vote and funding to the Republican Party by right leaning Jewish entrepreneurs who want a Conservative in the White House. Netanyahu's visit to Congress made it very clear they are both a cut of the same cloth and have the same attitude toward minorities that get in the way.
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Joe, you are wrong on so many accounts - Israel is a significant country, it is a true democracy, it does not treat its Arab citizens a second class, US has a treaty with Israel, etc. Being so wrong how can you rethink anything?
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Joe,
You hit the nail good; we have no influence. Our job is to provide $$billions and F-16s. Otherwise, America, stay out of it!
You hit the nail good; we have no influence. Our job is to provide $$billions and F-16s. Otherwise, America, stay out of it!
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What Netanyahu forgot to say when he accused the world of abuse of the Jews is that Israel has failed over and over again because it makes bad choices. Faced with war with the Babylonians, Israel choose to side with the Pharoah of Egypt and the citizens are taken for sixty years of slavery. Israel was a client state of the Romans. It's possible that a nation the size of Israel cannot survive on its own. But why should we support their madness? Jews can be citizens of other countries. They can't form separate political entities within a state because no state can allow such organizations to exist. But we, as citizens of the state have no obligation to support people in forming their nations. They are not part of our system.
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Sure, Jews can be citizens of other countries. That's worked out so well in the past. Why can't there be a Jewish nation? I just wish it wasn't led by Bibi.
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The outlines of a just settlement are clear: two states, Israel and Palestine, living side by side. But the focus must not be on the numbers, but on what they represent. Giving the millions of Palestinians a small land to turn into a country cramming themselves in to live at the mercy of their powerful neighbor is not particularly just or fair.
The Palestinians must be granted historical, legal, moral, and human recognition and redress in accordance with international law and the requirements of justice. There is no need to reinvent the wheel, but there is a need for the will and courage to act against all adverse forces.
The Palestinians must be granted historical, legal, moral, and human recognition and redress in accordance with international law and the requirements of justice. There is no need to reinvent the wheel, but there is a need for the will and courage to act against all adverse forces.
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And in what fairly land do you think this two state solution will come to be? Not in anytime soon and not when Mr. Netanyahu is on this planet.
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Where is the Palestinian will and courage??
They refused more than 50% of the land in
1948, as their "brothers" dictated. There were earnest tries by PM Barak and Olmert, but to no avail. Nothing and nobody could budge the Palestinian leadership! Nobody there wanted to take responsibility for making a deal with the Jews! And now there is Bibi Again and Still! Those refugee camps are more squalid than ever...does Any one Arab entity care???
Maybe Hamas, who just could not contain
themselves from shooting deadly rockets into Israel for years. The same Hamas that did
Not care how many of their people were
dying when Israel fought back, in fact the more the merrier, as many as possible to try to make the Israelis look as bad as possible in the world arena. There is plenty of guilt to go around. Stop deluding yourselves by simplifying this tragic saga. It is not helpful.
They refused more than 50% of the land in
1948, as their "brothers" dictated. There were earnest tries by PM Barak and Olmert, but to no avail. Nothing and nobody could budge the Palestinian leadership! Nobody there wanted to take responsibility for making a deal with the Jews! And now there is Bibi Again and Still! Those refugee camps are more squalid than ever...does Any one Arab entity care???
Maybe Hamas, who just could not contain
themselves from shooting deadly rockets into Israel for years. The same Hamas that did
Not care how many of their people were
dying when Israel fought back, in fact the more the merrier, as many as possible to try to make the Israelis look as bad as possible in the world arena. There is plenty of guilt to go around. Stop deluding yourselves by simplifying this tragic saga. It is not helpful.
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incredible. Steal the land Palestinians live on, but how? With pistols? And who gives Israel the right to the neighboring land? Seems many take the Bible too literally. Like little kids, "It's mine! Give it back!"
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A friend once saved my life. We have known each other for so long that somehow she knew what it would take to make me listen. 'You haven't made a decision until you go to the doctor' and she picked me up after the surgery during a snow blizzard in January. This was seven years ago and this evening we had an exchange about everything, except Israel where she comes from.
The Iraqi who hired us both when we were young to work for an international children's fund in New York is feeling her age, and at Christmas when I gave her a small gift, I told her the truth 'You are my family'.
In 1981 visiting a friend of German and Jewish heritage in the country, an author and journalist for the Times, an expert on the Middle East, I remembered today, on my return to New York there was a news tape announcing the death of President Anwar Sadat, causing me to pause. A tragedy.
"Let us put an end to wars, let us reshape life on the solid basis of equity and truth. And it is this call, which reflected the will of the Egyptian people, of the great majority of the Arab and Israeli peoples, and indeed of millions of men, women, and children around the world that you are today honoring. And these hundreds of millions will judge to what extent every responsible leader in the Middle East has responded to the hopes of mankind". (President Anwar Sadat - The Peace Treaty with Israel signed at Camp David in 1979).
Somewhere a child is listening now. Tomorrow is another day.
The Iraqi who hired us both when we were young to work for an international children's fund in New York is feeling her age, and at Christmas when I gave her a small gift, I told her the truth 'You are my family'.
In 1981 visiting a friend of German and Jewish heritage in the country, an author and journalist for the Times, an expert on the Middle East, I remembered today, on my return to New York there was a news tape announcing the death of President Anwar Sadat, causing me to pause. A tragedy.
"Let us put an end to wars, let us reshape life on the solid basis of equity and truth. And it is this call, which reflected the will of the Egyptian people, of the great majority of the Arab and Israeli peoples, and indeed of millions of men, women, and children around the world that you are today honoring. And these hundreds of millions will judge to what extent every responsible leader in the Middle East has responded to the hopes of mankind". (President Anwar Sadat - The Peace Treaty with Israel signed at Camp David in 1979).
Somewhere a child is listening now. Tomorrow is another day.
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Netanyahu’s reelection is good for our military industrial complex and maybe for our economy. His constant warmongering will ensure that there is no peace in middle east and there is a steady demand of weapons. Maybe we should even the field by selling better weapons to our potential new allies Iran. That's the only bright side in this scenario.
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Sure. Netanyahu is also responsible for the war in Syria (>200,000 deaths).
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Can you substantiate your claim. Why would Israel want to instigate war in Syria.
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Finally Bibi has expressed what every thinking person in this country already knew, that Israel has NO INTENTION of giving up anything for peace. These ungrateful politicians will fight the Arab world with whatever weapons we choose to give them, and we have plenty to give. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. So I gues "go it alone" is the new catchphrase in Israel and the hard earned taxes taken from us 99%ers to pay for their affrontery can now stay in this country to help redecorate our representatives offices.
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I'm just wondering how glorious this 'victory' is when there will be so many in the opposition once he forms a government, if he can.
I'm counting that the top three parties after Likud will all be in opposition, and others might join them. In short: if he forms a government, how long will it last?
I'm counting that the top three parties after Likud will all be in opposition, and others might join them. In short: if he forms a government, how long will it last?
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I do not know much about the Middle East other than what I read in the NYT, but I do know this: I object to the attitude of the ardent Netanyahu supporters who seem to believe they have an entitlement to American military power. Israel is a sovereign foreign power, regardless of whether they are an ally or have a special relationship with the United States. The British are an American ally, America most certainly has a special relationship with the British, the British are not pushing for wars they will require America to fight, and yet I do not detect the disrespect and condescension from the British I do from the Netanyahu crew towards our president. I worry segments of the Israeli electorate are over estimating the influence of fundamentalist Christian zealots and Sheldon Adelson's bank book, and underestimating the resolute opposition of millions of Joe Americans like me to more wasted blood and treasure in the Middle East. And let's be clear, that is what Netanyahu is angling for.
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Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth/mind.
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I do not know much about the Middle East other than what I read in the NYT - you should have stopped there
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And Senator/Mr. McCain and company will lead all the conservative/Tea Party zealots to enlist another generation of young US citizens to wars in the middle east. Don't negotiate a solution; that's a waste of time. It will be more holy wars with holy blood spilled in the name of holy causes.
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our relationship with israel has painted a huge target on our back and for what? a nation that lies to us about it's peace efforts? no more. the acknowledgement by Israel that it doesn't honestly seek peace and wastes our time means we should cut ties. completely.
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We need to stop thinking about Israelis like they live in Brookline, Paramus, or Santa Monica, and go to the local Reform synagogue,with 71% of their children likely to intermarry. A significant percentage come from behind the old Iron Curtain, and have faced direct discrimination and physical threat. The idea of a threat from Iran, Hezbollah, and Hamas is terrifying to them. They lean right, the same way the nations of the former Iron Curtain have turned toward NATO and lean right. Then, there are the huge bloc of Mizrahi Jews from North Africa, Persia, Yemen, etc., They know the Arabs well. They are the Second Israel no one thinks of when they think of Rabin and Ben Gurion. They lean right, due to personal experience.
It is possible for these Israelis to vote center or center-left. They have done it before with Rabin and Barak. But to do it, they need to feel like the United States really has Israel's back. With the current doubt about the Obama administration and Iran, that wasn't going to happen this time. Because Beersheba is not Boston, Ashkelon is not Akron, and Haifa is not Hollywood.
It is possible for these Israelis to vote center or center-left. They have done it before with Rabin and Barak. But to do it, they need to feel like the United States really has Israel's back. With the current doubt about the Obama administration and Iran, that wasn't going to happen this time. Because Beersheba is not Boston, Ashkelon is not Akron, and Haifa is not Hollywood.
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It is not the current US administration that is a weak partner to Israel, but rather a right wing firebrand bully that is bent on creating a fire pit in the middle east fed with US blood and tax revenue.
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I once had their backs, but they lied to me, so no longer.
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We have had Israel's back for far too long! A donkey says thank you with a kick and the donkey is Netanyahu. They want Bibi? Let them figure out how to pay for endless war without US money! Enough is enough. With "friends" like Israel, who needs enemies?
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Netanyahu's scorched earth tactics to win this election (thumbing his nose at the U.S., promising no Palestinian state) will accelerate the erosion of support for Israel in the U.S. and Europe, and intensify - if that is even possible - the hatred for Israel in the Middle East. His lack of concern for anything other than his own re-election is a very sad day for the state of Israel that will have negative repercussions for Israeli security going forward for years to come. Tragic on so many fronts.
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Much of the world is frowning on Israel at the moment. In time, Netanyahu will be forgotten but how much time will it take to repair the damage that has been done to one of America's greatest allies?
I hope there is an outcry from Americans to their reps in DC to stop sending $ to Israel and Egypt, neither deserve our support. I certainly do not want my tax dollars to support either. I detest the arrogant racist Netanyahu. He will be the cause of further conflict and war in the Middle East. I detest the GOP who invited him to insult our President and I detest the Dems who showed up that day. They are all treasonous. Bibi not only insulted President Obama, he insulted Americans. He is cut from the same arrogant cloth as Bush I and II, Reagan, and especially Rove and Cheney. How do such rotten and evil people get elected and in power. We have plenty in the GOP as well. I can't help but wonder if WWIII is on the horizon with people like Putin, Bibi, Asad and on the flip side ISIS and Boko Haram and North Korea radicals gaining more power. The world is a mess.
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Netanyahu’s reelection could preface a dangerous passage for the United States. Will he now try to take out Iran’s nuclear capability militarily? He doesn’t seem inclined to listen to U.S. pleas to let diplomacy play out. During his country’s recent campaign, he was quoted as saying if Israel listened to America’s advice, it wouldn’t exist.
In his memoir “Duty,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates writes that he and others did a lot of contingency planning for the aftermath of a unilateral Israeli attack. They feared the U.S. would almost inevitably be drawn into a regional war – or worse.
Gates’ take on the Israeli leader was unflattering. “I first met Netanyahu during the Bush 41 administration, when I was deputy national security advisor and Bibi, as Israel’s deputy foreign minister, called on me in my tiny West Wing office. I was offended by his glibness and his criticisms of U.S. policy – not to mention his arrogance and outlandish ambition – and I told national security advisor Brent Scowcroft that Bibi ought not be allowed back on White House grounds,” he said.
Netanyahu’s bull-in-a-china shop attitude is precisely why it was so reckless for congressional Republicans to give him the aid and comfort they have. But President Obama is commander-in-chief. It might be prudent for him to warn Netanyahu that if Israel attacks Iran, it’s on its own. – it will get no U.S. help of any kind, including military resupply.
In his memoir “Duty,” former Defense Secretary Robert Gates writes that he and others did a lot of contingency planning for the aftermath of a unilateral Israeli attack. They feared the U.S. would almost inevitably be drawn into a regional war – or worse.
Gates’ take on the Israeli leader was unflattering. “I first met Netanyahu during the Bush 41 administration, when I was deputy national security advisor and Bibi, as Israel’s deputy foreign minister, called on me in my tiny West Wing office. I was offended by his glibness and his criticisms of U.S. policy – not to mention his arrogance and outlandish ambition – and I told national security advisor Brent Scowcroft that Bibi ought not be allowed back on White House grounds,” he said.
Netanyahu’s bull-in-a-china shop attitude is precisely why it was so reckless for congressional Republicans to give him the aid and comfort they have. But President Obama is commander-in-chief. It might be prudent for him to warn Netanyahu that if Israel attacks Iran, it’s on its own. – it will get no U.S. help of any kind, including military resupply.
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Absolutely. Despite pretenses otherwise, Israel is the sole military power in the Middle East and more likely to attack Iran than the other way around.
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There is no chance that he will dare to attack Iran. All the Generals are strongly opposed as everybody in their right mind knows that it will achieve nothing and have catastrophic consequences. Frankly - for all his tough talk, Bibi is a coward, and maybe it's the only positive thing to say about him.
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"Israel is the sole military power in the Middle East..."
Are you kidding? Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia...
Are you kidding? Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia...
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Hate to say this but I think the trend is now moving strongly toward an eventual nuclear conflict in the Middle East with no telling how far it will spread. This will be culmination of a movement that began in the last century with the major world powers drawing borders with no understanding of what the outcomes might be. Today, the eventual conflict is being pushed along ever more rapidly by local, short term political agendas, without any regard to what will be unleashed. I can only counsel those who plan to be around in more than 10 years to get your stockpile of Potassium Iodide, Prussian Blue, DTPA and Filgrastim along with creating a place you and your family can be shielded from the fallout that will spread worldwide from this conflict. And special thanks to our GOP Senators for giving it all an extra boost. We should record their names for posterity to appear on the memorials to the tens of thousands who will succumb to radiation sickness in this country, even if no bombs ever fall directly on US soil. Maybe we'll get "lucky" and an initial nuclear exchange will so shock the world that such a conflict will end quickly. Not likely if Vlad is still around to strut his nukes and show who's boss. Human memory is short and no one any longer comprehends that these weapons are as horrific as they really are.
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Without question the results will deeply disappoint President Obama and some European leaders, who were hoping Israelis would swap out an intractable “hawk” for a more flexible “dove,” one whom they assumed would pave the way for a quick final deal with Iran and hasten a two-state solution in the Holy Land before President Obama leaves office.
In reality however, there is no real distance between the left and the right over the existential threat posed by Iran. Israel’s next prime minister must come up with a plan to thwart Tehran, whose leaders continue to call for the Jewish State’s annihilation, from becoming a nuclear power.
Additionally, Jerusalem will be confronted with a new strategic threat from Iran and its Hezbollah terrorist lackeys whose brazen entrenchment on the Golan Heights has raised nary a peep from the U.S. or the European Union.
Even if Israel’s left had prevailed it is hard to imagine that a deal for a Two-State solution could be reached in the next two years. Hamas’ continuous terrorism and genocidal hate and the celebration by leaders of the PA of vicious terrorist outrages against Jews, have left most Israelis warily awaiting a Palestinian leader -- someone unlike PA President Abbas -- who would be ready to tell his constituents that their Jewish neighbors are there to stay and that the Jewish state has a legitimate right to be there.
In reality however, there is no real distance between the left and the right over the existential threat posed by Iran. Israel’s next prime minister must come up with a plan to thwart Tehran, whose leaders continue to call for the Jewish State’s annihilation, from becoming a nuclear power.
Additionally, Jerusalem will be confronted with a new strategic threat from Iran and its Hezbollah terrorist lackeys whose brazen entrenchment on the Golan Heights has raised nary a peep from the U.S. or the European Union.
Even if Israel’s left had prevailed it is hard to imagine that a deal for a Two-State solution could be reached in the next two years. Hamas’ continuous terrorism and genocidal hate and the celebration by leaders of the PA of vicious terrorist outrages against Jews, have left most Israelis warily awaiting a Palestinian leader -- someone unlike PA President Abbas -- who would be ready to tell his constituents that their Jewish neighbors are there to stay and that the Jewish state has a legitimate right to be there.
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I don't see it that way at all. What I see is one people occupying another and periodically blowing civilians to bits.
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Steven,
Your one sentence reply is a very simple and TOTALLY biased statement regarding a complicated situation with a long history.
I assume you are referring to my last paragraph. Exactly what can you cite in there that is untrue?
Your one sentence reply is a very simple and TOTALLY biased statement regarding a complicated situation with a long history.
I assume you are referring to my last paragraph. Exactly what can you cite in there that is untrue?
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We know Netanyahu believes Iran is an existential threat to Israel. Why has he not already taken action to destroy their nuclear capabilities? It's not like Israel has to worry about losing US support or that automatic veto at the UN. Netanyahu knows he can get away with just about anything.
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WHAT!! You expect Netanyahu to kill the boogeman, Iran. How would he get people to keep voting him back in office.
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He requested permission from the recent Bush administration to conduct airstrikes in Iran, and was explicitly refused.
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The State Department is clearly appeasing Iran- an intermediate nuclear weapons deal in exchange for allowing Iranian dominance of the Middle East at the expense of Israel and the Sunnis. The strategy of hyping the "Arab Spring" did not turn out well- see Libya, Syria, Yemen, Egypt and now Tunisia. This same state department is now selling the Iranian Spring. Can you blame Netanyahu for being reactive- he has been sold down the river by the administration.
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How's that democracy thing working out in Iraq? I seem to recall that our former President hyped up all the wonderful things our invasion of that country would bring. What did it bring first? That Arab Spring you've incorrectly attributed to the current administration.
It was the former administration that destabilized that entire region. This is Bush's Frankenstein.
It was the former administration that destabilized that entire region. This is Bush's Frankenstein.
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The State department didn't cook up the uprisings in any of the countries you mention. For instance, see who was behind Libya intervention, he was so proud, he even made a movie!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/25/levy-libya-film-screening-c...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/may/25/levy-libya-film-screening-c...
A middle-east peace is always difficult to achieve and Netanyahu makes it even more difficult by his uncompromising attitude. His re-election does not bode well for a lasting peace in the middle-east.
In him, US and other western nations supporting Israel have a spoiled leader who thinks Israel is entitled to unconditional support from the west.
In him, US and other western nations supporting Israel have a spoiled leader who thinks Israel is entitled to unconditional support from the west.
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We now know that Israel and some Palestinians (Hamas) have the same policy....no recognition of the other's state. And each is dedicated to undermining the legitimacy of the other. Actually Netanyahu's honesty is refreshing since this has been Israel's policy since aggressively starting the settlements in 1979. In addition Israel has bitten the hands that feed them (the U.S. and the EU) in a bet that their neo conservative politicos will ultimately prevail in the U.S. and go to war with Iran. Neither is a slam dunk or perhaps even likely. In the long run this will not be good for Israel.
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The best news I've heard from the Middle East in years.
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Why will Kahlon ally himself with this right-wing and religious bunch in forming a government after the nature of Bibi's campaign? He could form a government with Herzog and others. If it would mean persuading the Arab bloc to join, I'm sure this could be arranged.
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Here's hoping for a Zionist Union,Joint List, Kulana, Yese Atid Meretz coalition.
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Between a no 2 state solution, the insult to our president and the terms of citizenship limited to just Jews, Israel has aligned themselves with the other dictatorships and theocracies of the Middle East. We should cut-bait. And say shalom.
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Next time someone says our two party system is messed up, use Israel as an example of why it's far better than a parliamentary democracy.
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Really, how can you say that, they at least have a choice. There is far more of a difference in the Israeli for of government than there is in America's. I would argue that there was a far greater difference between Mr Netanyahu and Mr Herzog, especially in how they would run government than there has been between Bush and Obama.
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Now w1e have another nut to deal with in the world. First we have Putin, and now Netanyahu has shown his true colors. Hang on to power no matter what it costs, use fear mongering and seize territory for their own interests.
Meanwhile, in Washington, like Netanyahu, we have an emboldened Republican Party which is willing to do anything to hang on to power, enhance their power and eventually control all power.
As fro our President, he has ceded power to the GOP, APIC and Netanyahu. Talk about not only a lame duck; but fried lame duck.
Meanwhile, in Washington, like Netanyahu, we have an emboldened Republican Party which is willing to do anything to hang on to power, enhance their power and eventually control all power.
As fro our President, he has ceded power to the GOP, APIC and Netanyahu. Talk about not only a lame duck; but fried lame duck.
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Oh yeah, Hell is full of dictators, greedy wealthy people, self serving politicians, autocratic rulers and the like; so, certainly there will always be room fro a few more, when all said and done. In the end, they cannot buy their way out of eternal damnation.
Seem appropriate that he prays to God, in the picture to left, and commit sin when not praying. How many ways can you say hypocrite?
Seem appropriate that he prays to God, in the picture to left, and commit sin when not praying. How many ways can you say hypocrite?
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Doesn't look like he's praying. He's inserting his "wish" written on a piece of paper into a crack in the Wailing Wall. It appears that his wish was granted.
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I know it's "Monday morning quarterbacking", but if the GOP had not invited PM Netanyahu to speak to Congress and those 47 GOP Senators not sent their reckless letter to the Iranian leadership (both done for the sole purpose of undermining Pres. Obama), perhaps domestic/economic issues would have played more of a role in the Israeli election. For example, the NYT, and others, have reported on the growing income disparity in Israel which, like here in the US, is among the worst in the world. Now, PM Netanyahu's strong showing will only exacerbate the deteriorating situation in the Middle East, and may well weaken support for Israel among the American people. To the extant those things happen, the GOP in Congress will have been complicit.
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In light of our own crumbling infrastructure, income inequality, racial targeting and corruption in police and prisons, a multitude of other problems that keep pushing us down the list in comparison to other first world nations, why the heck are we giving so much money to a state that ramps up on awful policies that have been condemned internationally? If there's one thing the educated constituent has learned, is that behind every harmful decision, is a promise of huge fortune. So the question is, who's being extorted or bribed?
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I hope, as one disgusted Jew, that President Obama plays tough with Netanyahu. Don't expect compromise or reasonable, decent treatment toward Palestinians -- or our USA -- from Bibi and Likhud. Obama must and can play tough with Bibi because Bibi and Likhud have nowhere else to turn than our USA. And I am every bit as Jewish as the thuggish Netanyahu.
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Kudos to Jim Steinberg, to show your displeasure with Netanyahu and urge Obama to take a tougher stance. Now after the election, Netanyahu feels emboldened by the polls. While in Washington he told the Republicans the he would work with them against the president. Indeed Obama has to stand his ground!
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There is nothing Obama can gain at this point by "playing tough" with Bibi.
No one is going to want to appear to imperil Israel, and Bibi knows it better than anyone.
You and I (both Jewish), hearts broken, unless you are young, are likely not going to live long enough to see demographics take their natural course. But eventually, they will.
And at that point, the U.S. and the rest of the world, will not care very much, and have little interest in what happens to the tiny State that once offered so much hope not only to a nearly-extinguished people, but to the rest of humanity.
No one is going to want to appear to imperil Israel, and Bibi knows it better than anyone.
You and I (both Jewish), hearts broken, unless you are young, are likely not going to live long enough to see demographics take their natural course. But eventually, they will.
And at that point, the U.S. and the rest of the world, will not care very much, and have little interest in what happens to the tiny State that once offered so much hope not only to a nearly-extinguished people, but to the rest of humanity.
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Bibi/Likhud are losing at demographics, true. It is in Israel's interest that they stop losing in ethical, peaceful conduct. And I am no Polyanna regarding Syria, ISIS and others who intend nothing good for Israeli-Arab relations.
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Netanyahu is a bully - individually in the case of our President and in the aggregate in the case of the continued oppression of the Palestinians. Pressure from from the rest of the world to act humanely toward Palestinians has failed. I believe it is time to begin a economic boycott of Israel as the world did with South Africa. It worked then and will work now.
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What's up with the dull, overused catcall, "bully" for men who wield massive power? People did the same thing with Putin, "Putin is a bully!" It's silly and un serious.
Is your child bullied? Do you expect heavyweight politicians to be feckless and milquetoast? I can't stand the guy, but to say he is a bully is naive.
Is your child bullied? Do you expect heavyweight politicians to be feckless and milquetoast? I can't stand the guy, but to say he is a bully is naive.
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Bullying is bullying. You apparently like the status quo for "men who weild massive power."
"Feckless" the favorite conservative word these days to mock President Obama.
Surely he's a bully on a personal level. He bullies Arab Israelis, President Obama, Palestinians, and probably personal associates. His announcing that there would be no two states was him being a bully again.
"Feckless" the favorite conservative word these days to mock President Obama.
Surely he's a bully on a personal level. He bullies Arab Israelis, President Obama, Palestinians, and probably personal associates. His announcing that there would be no two states was him being a bully again.
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Netanyahu's diatribe about the "mixed allegiance" of Arab voters, questioning whether Israeli Arabs could be genuinely patriotic in the face of their ties to the outside Arab world, is a sad and ironic echo of anti-Semitic prejudice in Europe and elsewhere over the past centuries.
Jews were routinely regarded as an alien political and social group within the a European nation state, more loyal to the hidden agenda of transnational world Jewry. Even as generations of Jews had resided in a particular country, an anti-Semitic politician(s) could nevertheless define them as potentially subversive.
Now Netanyahu directs the same prejudice and intolerance toward Israeli Arabs. Of course, It is not the Israeli Ababs who threaten the security and quality of life in Israel. It is the articulated racism of Netanyahu, and the right wing political and religious leaders who form the base of his support.
And yet, Netanyahu is seemingly unaware of this hideous irony.
Jews were routinely regarded as an alien political and social group within the a European nation state, more loyal to the hidden agenda of transnational world Jewry. Even as generations of Jews had resided in a particular country, an anti-Semitic politician(s) could nevertheless define them as potentially subversive.
Now Netanyahu directs the same prejudice and intolerance toward Israeli Arabs. Of course, It is not the Israeli Ababs who threaten the security and quality of life in Israel. It is the articulated racism of Netanyahu, and the right wing political and religious leaders who form the base of his support.
And yet, Netanyahu is seemingly unaware of this hideous irony.
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Fear mongering, distorted facts, divisiveness, ... it's a replay of the cheney/bush re-election in 2004. My heart goes out to those Israelis who voted for a more peaceful and brighter future.
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This is a classic example of the Stockholm Syndrome. But in this circumstance, residents of Israel are held captive by their leader--who knows nothing else in life, but to hold on to his power. The pharmaceutical companies will profit nicely from the (continued) need for for antidepressants......
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Are you saying that Israeli voters can't think for themselves? How would your "theory" apply to US voters?
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I'll tell you my well-named friend. Exactly the same. There's not a lot of thinking going on right now in US electoral politics. So many vote against their own interests because Republicans have figured out how to appeal to people's prejudices, both personal and societal.
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This election is a good example of why it is important for politicians in a democratic state to rotate power. When one politician is in office for too long, he has a chance to a) seem like the de facto winner already, because everyone is so used to thinking of him as leader b) block out, stigmatize, and /or just stop listening to other voices. Democratic process is supposed to allow for different groups and opinions to be heard; entrenching political power can make this difficult.
I am glad that here in the U.S. we have the rule about presidents not serving more than 2 terms consecutively.
I am glad that here in the U.S. we have the rule about presidents not serving more than 2 terms consecutively.
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The rule in the USA has nothing to do with consecutive terms.
In the USA, the constitution forbids Presidents form serving more than 2 terms at all (except that a Vice President can finish up to 3 years of a President's Term (upon death, resignation or impeachment of a President) plus 2 full elected terms. Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson and Jerry Ford all that option.
On the other hand, it is quite fortunate that in 1940, the Constitution, as then written, still permitted Franklin Roosevelt to be elected to his third term, or we might have lost WWII. FDR also ran and got elected to a fourth term but died 3 months after that inauguration.
In the USA, the constitution forbids Presidents form serving more than 2 terms at all (except that a Vice President can finish up to 3 years of a President's Term (upon death, resignation or impeachment of a President) plus 2 full elected terms. Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson and Jerry Ford all that option.
On the other hand, it is quite fortunate that in 1940, the Constitution, as then written, still permitted Franklin Roosevelt to be elected to his third term, or we might have lost WWII. FDR also ran and got elected to a fourth term but died 3 months after that inauguration.
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"I am glad that here in the U.S. we have the rule about presidents not serving more than 2 terms consecutively."
The President of Israel is limited to one seven-year term.[1] Some people in Israel are calling for term limits on the Israeli PM.[2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel
[2] per a web search for "israel term limits"
The President of Israel is limited to one seven-year term.[1] Some people in Israel are calling for term limits on the Israeli PM.[2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel
[2] per a web search for "israel term limits"
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Carla, you are easy to please. It obviously does not take much to make you glad. So what if the president can be elected to a maximum of two terms? Why not all of them? But in reality, nowadays it would make no difference.
The question is not who is elected but who do they represent? What are their values? Would they sacrifice their political careers for the benefit of all Americans, for peace?
How many elected people in Congress are from the lower 80% of the population? How many from the top 10%? Do you really think that does not matter?
Government of, by and for the People has passed away. It was melting into the hallowed ground when Lincoln made that impressive meaningless speech while 600,000 poor whites died for what? The sad irony is that the North was losing that war until Lincoln agreed to let 'colored' soldiers join that horror.
All the time the Wall Street crowd was financing the westward march into lands occupied by Native Americans who watched their lands being stolen as one treaty after another was unilaterally broken by the President residing in Washington. As the poor and immigrants were forced to join the North's Army anyone with $300 could buy out of serving. Guess who could afford the $300! Immigrants working on the intercontinental railroad were deceived; they did not get paid.
But Wall Street had plans as does Blimpie. He is an expansionist. The non-Jews are his Native Americans. Expansion is the West Bank.
A bomb in Iran is also a possibility.
The question is not who is elected but who do they represent? What are their values? Would they sacrifice their political careers for the benefit of all Americans, for peace?
How many elected people in Congress are from the lower 80% of the population? How many from the top 10%? Do you really think that does not matter?
Government of, by and for the People has passed away. It was melting into the hallowed ground when Lincoln made that impressive meaningless speech while 600,000 poor whites died for what? The sad irony is that the North was losing that war until Lincoln agreed to let 'colored' soldiers join that horror.
All the time the Wall Street crowd was financing the westward march into lands occupied by Native Americans who watched their lands being stolen as one treaty after another was unilaterally broken by the President residing in Washington. As the poor and immigrants were forced to join the North's Army anyone with $300 could buy out of serving. Guess who could afford the $300! Immigrants working on the intercontinental railroad were deceived; they did not get paid.
But Wall Street had plans as does Blimpie. He is an expansionist. The non-Jews are his Native Americans. Expansion is the West Bank.
A bomb in Iran is also a possibility.
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What is Netanyahu going to do during his fourth term? What will his legacy be? The annexation of Gaza and the occupation of the West Bank? No, the US has and the EU have to put pressure on him to opt for the two-state solution! In the end the right-wing supporters and voters will rise up against him!
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This reminds me of how both Canada and America treat native Americans. Although those that once called America their land have been relegated to small pieces of land called reserves, which was our solution, there is a difference. We provide health care, education, tax exemptions, and social services when Israel provides next to nothing. Although neither solution is very good, at least we are not at war with native Americans. I think it's about time Israel learns how to get along with their neighbors. Too bad they don't see it that way.
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Yeah, Israel needs to stop launching thousands of missiles at civilians, making raving insane racist speeches advocating genocide and committing terrorist acts around the world...yeah, Israel's the problem...
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Just read the lyrics to Bob Dylan's "Neighborhood Bully" to get a little perspective.
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Maxine...
It's not (at least for this Jew) about winning debating points, but enlightened self-interest.
It's not (at least for this Jew) about winning debating points, but enlightened self-interest.
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Netanyahu did not say that there is no two state solution. He said that he will not negotiate a Palestinian State that would be a gateway to further violence and a threat to Israel from Radical Islam. I think that is an obvious point. Once there is no threat to Israel from Radical Islam at it's doorstep (i.e. Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranian controlled parties), there can be a two State solution, but not until then.
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A splendid sophism, especially the timely substitution of "Radical Islam" for "Palestinians." But who will be deceived by it, other than wishful-thinking Americans unwilling to face things as they are?
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This is a dangerous moment for the United States. Clearly a good number of politicians in America have decided to treat Benjamin Netanyahu as their president. To them, Netanyahu is infallible and must be followed no matter what action he takes against Palestinians or Iran. I'm certain Tommy Cotton & Co. feel this way.
People like Tommy Cotton--in all seriousness--should consider converting to Judaism, performing aliyah, renouncing their U.S. citizenship, and moving into a West Bank settlement area if they care so much more about the land rights of Israelis than they do about America's status as a sovereign country obligated to act in its own national interest.
People like Tommy Cotton--in all seriousness--should consider converting to Judaism, performing aliyah, renouncing their U.S. citizenship, and moving into a West Bank settlement area if they care so much more about the land rights of Israelis than they do about America's status as a sovereign country obligated to act in its own national interest.
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"..a good number of politicians in America have decided to treat Benjamin Netanyahu as their President"
Yes but only as long as Barack Obama is their President. Come November 2016 and the Republicans in Congress will have no further use for Mr. Netanyahu. Netanyahu understands this and has no complaints as his speech to the US Congress was a formidable vote getter.
Yes but only as long as Barack Obama is their President. Come November 2016 and the Republicans in Congress will have no further use for Mr. Netanyahu. Netanyahu understands this and has no complaints as his speech to the US Congress was a formidable vote getter.
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Hear! Hear! Goodbye, Tom Cotton!
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Israel's appalling, bonehead mistake will affict people around the globe. And I'm every bit as Jewish as arrogant Bibi.
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At least now we know the Israel position. No need for peace smoke screens. One state with major expansions of settlements. That is a strategy that might work till 2020 or a little later.
I the meantime it appears that Bibi and his allies in the US Congress and his funding magnates are heading us to another war in the Middle East. "a war to end all wars"?
I the meantime it appears that Bibi and his allies in the US Congress and his funding magnates are heading us to another war in the Middle East. "a war to end all wars"?
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It is evident that destabilization in the Middle East is Israel's policy for peace. Israel, allied with the Republicans, who value cheap energy above human dignity, guarantees the status quo. Maybe if we look at the root cause of a Middle East in crisis, we will realize that bullying is behind it all and is not the way forward. It just hardens those that are being bullied to fight harder, and they are.
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The world now must acknowledge the reality the Israeli people chose to continue occupation, oppression, racism and apartheid. So the world's logical next step is a return to and strengthening of sanctions, divestment, and boycotts of Israel. There is no free lunch- especially one paid for by the US taxpayers.
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We are in a horrible position -- but I believe that the majority of the Congress still supports Israel, and a majority of Americans.
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The Israeli people have spoken and the fear of making concessions to Palestinians and curbing territorial expansions trumped everything else that was dredged up as an issue in this election, costs of living, inequality, etc.
Considerations for peace talks and the rights of Palestinians are only shared by a minority of Israelis and the majority seems to be horrified by a two-state solution. I read yesterday in this paper that someone voted for Netanyahu because he "stood up to Obama." The mentality is to hunker down and let the the "strong man" speak. How far are the Israelis willing to let the strong man take them? Scary thought.
Considerations for peace talks and the rights of Palestinians are only shared by a minority of Israelis and the majority seems to be horrified by a two-state solution. I read yesterday in this paper that someone voted for Netanyahu because he "stood up to Obama." The mentality is to hunker down and let the the "strong man" speak. How far are the Israelis willing to let the strong man take them? Scary thought.
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How far are we willing to go here in America as a weak man speaks from the Oval Office?
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Netanyahu's repudiation of the "two state solution" leaves the US supporting an Israel with no vision of its future other than continued evolution into its own variant of an apartheid state. There's good argument that this has been the case for a long time, only now the fig leaf of "the peace process" has been removed.
Regardless, the appropriate response is to take Netanyahu at his word and announce that his posture and the Israeli electorate's endorsement of it necessitates a full, top-to-bottom review of U.S. support for Israel. Anything less is unlikely to be taken seriously in Israel, in the region, or in the U.N.
Certainly, hoping "Bibi" doesn't really mean it accomplishes nothing but self-deception. Any return on his part to negotiating a two state solution, at this point, can only be greeted by Arab states as further proof that Netanyahu is the cynical liar they always believed him to be, as George Mitchell has attested, despite adamant U.S. assurances that he was a good faith participant in negotiations.
Regardless, the appropriate response is to take Netanyahu at his word and announce that his posture and the Israeli electorate's endorsement of it necessitates a full, top-to-bottom review of U.S. support for Israel. Anything less is unlikely to be taken seriously in Israel, in the region, or in the U.N.
Certainly, hoping "Bibi" doesn't really mean it accomplishes nothing but self-deception. Any return on his part to negotiating a two state solution, at this point, can only be greeted by Arab states as further proof that Netanyahu is the cynical liar they always believed him to be, as George Mitchell has attested, despite adamant U.S. assurances that he was a good faith participant in negotiations.
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Left and centrist parties are doomed in Israel and secular Israelis know it.
It's all in the demographics. With most Ultra-Orthodox families routinely having between six-ten children, future Likudniks are being born at a much higher rate than anyone else except Arab Israelis and Palestinians. Immigrants from Eastern Europe to Israel may not have much religious fervor but they are rabidly anti-Arab. All of them need housing and consider the Arabs to have no rights to any part of Greater Israel.
Some commenters have urged Herzog to form a coalition with the Arab List parties. No Israeli Jewish party can wean Jewish voters away from the right-wing parties if they even hint at common cause with non-Jewish parties.
Netanyahu know that continued American support for Israel is guaranteed regardless of who gets elected here.
But the US and Israel will, within a generation, find themselves mostly isolated in the world. Europeans are pragmatists and they have learned, to their cost, what happens when you don't strongly defend and protect secular societies. They will not be friends to any theocracies in the Middle East; they do not need Saudi oil.
It's all in the demographics. With most Ultra-Orthodox families routinely having between six-ten children, future Likudniks are being born at a much higher rate than anyone else except Arab Israelis and Palestinians. Immigrants from Eastern Europe to Israel may not have much religious fervor but they are rabidly anti-Arab. All of them need housing and consider the Arabs to have no rights to any part of Greater Israel.
Some commenters have urged Herzog to form a coalition with the Arab List parties. No Israeli Jewish party can wean Jewish voters away from the right-wing parties if they even hint at common cause with non-Jewish parties.
Netanyahu know that continued American support for Israel is guaranteed regardless of who gets elected here.
But the US and Israel will, within a generation, find themselves mostly isolated in the world. Europeans are pragmatists and they have learned, to their cost, what happens when you don't strongly defend and protect secular societies. They will not be friends to any theocracies in the Middle East; they do not need Saudi oil.
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"But the US and Israel will, within a generation, find themselves mostly isolated in the world"
Where have you been for the last three decades? The above has been the reality since the 1980's. If "isolation" is the result of supporting the only real democracy and true friend of America in the Middle East, then so be it. The Arab/Islamic Middle East is a mess, and Europe is too dependent on the USA to make a real fuss.
Where have you been for the last three decades? The above has been the reality since the 1980's. If "isolation" is the result of supporting the only real democracy and true friend of America in the Middle East, then so be it. The Arab/Islamic Middle East is a mess, and Europe is too dependent on the USA to make a real fuss.
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Rudi: When was Israel ever a friend to the US? Israel has worked, overtly and covertly, to destabilize the Middle East to ensure ever-expanding US military expenditures to or on behalf of Israel.
Israel has never been truthful about its territorial intentions and has fostered the fantasy that it is the bastion of freedom in the Middle East, while fundamentalist Jewish parties gain strength every year and marginalize everyone who does not fit their definition of "Jewish." There's no difference between religious fanatics, no matter which "holy book" they subscribe to.
Israel has never been truthful about its territorial intentions and has fostered the fantasy that it is the bastion of freedom in the Middle East, while fundamentalist Jewish parties gain strength every year and marginalize everyone who does not fit their definition of "Jewish." There's no difference between religious fanatics, no matter which "holy book" they subscribe to.
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They are our "friend" in that they are the largest recipient of our foreign aid, and the US Congress fully supports Israel.
Last summer, when Israel was merrily bombing Gaza, killing children on the beach, bombing schools and houses, the US Congress voiced "robust support" of Israel's "right to self-defense."
http://www.aipac.org/~/media/Publications/Policy%20and%20Politics/AIPAC%...
Last summer, when Israel was merrily bombing Gaza, killing children on the beach, bombing schools and houses, the US Congress voiced "robust support" of Israel's "right to self-defense."
http://www.aipac.org/~/media/Publications/Policy%20and%20Politics/AIPAC%...
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The people have spoken, at least the people in the settlements and in Israel proper have spoken; as for the Palestinians they had no vote and when you come to think of it they still haven't had a chance to decide about Mahmoud Abbas, either.
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With Netanyahu left in the driving seat to form another government after clearly beating Hertzog, today's NYT seems to think that Lieberman and Bennett will be included in the new coalition.
This clearly takes us back to the status quo with more hysterical rhetoric against Iran, no solution for the beleaguered Palestinians. The Israeli voters have cast aside their problems regarding chronic housing shortages and child poverty to reelect a man who has done so much damage for a country that appears to be walking to isolation.
US/Israeli relations at a nadir will sink even lower and cause President Obama further headaches over the Iran issue. We in the West much watch with caution Israel's reactions towards its neighbours: this isn't a regional issue but a global one.
This clearly takes us back to the status quo with more hysterical rhetoric against Iran, no solution for the beleaguered Palestinians. The Israeli voters have cast aside their problems regarding chronic housing shortages and child poverty to reelect a man who has done so much damage for a country that appears to be walking to isolation.
US/Israeli relations at a nadir will sink even lower and cause President Obama further headaches over the Iran issue. We in the West much watch with caution Israel's reactions towards its neighbours: this isn't a regional issue but a global one.
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You stated " this isn't a regional issue but a global one." Why is this a global issue? Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen have a far greater population. They are dying in far greater numbers. Their level of poverty is much greater. The land area is far larger. Why is all of that not a much more pressing issue than an democratic election in Israel? or even the entire Palestinian situation? It is ridiculous how much focus the world places on a few square miles of land.
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It is sad to wake up to the same all.. The new government will just continue the oppression , violence, occupation and apartheid .
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As Jews who value safety and democracy gradually and understandably continue to leave Israel and make their homes elsewhere, how can we expect that Israel will be comprised of anything other than those who value ideology and religion over all else?
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Since Netanyahu admitted he had lied to the international community and had never bargained in good faith as long as he is in a leadership role, at least this American is no ally of Israel's.
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Many would welcome a one-state solution as long as there is to be equal rights for all. If there is to be no two state solution, it is time to give the vote to all Palestinians. There is no government that discriminates as blatantly on the basis of religion and ethnicity as Israel. One has to look at non-state entities such as IS to find such discrimination.
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No country where such discrimination exists? Try Saudi Arabia for one. Christians are not even granted citizenship much less voting rights. Israeli Arabs vote.
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Are you sure you want to make Saudi Arabia the standard for how we should judge Israel? Why not go on and point out that Israel's treatment of Gaza was much more humane and reasonable than the treatment of captured towns by ISIS, and therefore is above reproach.
It is easy to take Saudi Arabia off the table: their internal policies are disgusting and primitive. Now: what were we saying about Israel?
It is easy to take Saudi Arabia off the table: their internal policies are disgusting and primitive. Now: what were we saying about Israel?
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This was a "clear cut victory" for Nehanyahu. That's surprising because everything I've read about the election in the American press the morning of March 18 says he just squeaked out a victory and the people really hate him.
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The same NY Times and liberal media who called the Israeli election too close to call and were running nonstop "after Netanyahu loses" news teasers are sadly reporting a landslide win for Netanyahu today.
When will our Falcon Heene, (Balloon Boy) national media stop taking the bait and running with half baked narratives they don't fact check?
When will our Falcon Heene, (Balloon Boy) national media stop taking the bait and running with half baked narratives they don't fact check?
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Define landslide in this instance please.
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30 percent isn't a landslide.
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The way I see it, pretty much everything that the man says vis a vis the establishment of a Palestinian state is an extreme bargaining position. During serious negotiations he'll come off those initial position. Who was considered more intransigent than Menahem Begin and look at all the conquered land that he ceded back to Egypt? That said, peace has prevailed between Egypt and Israel for almost 40 years.
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Since Israel has given up on the 2 state solution, can we finally give up on our support for Israel? At the very least we should stop vetoing UN resolutions condemning Israel's violation of international law.
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Mr. Netanyahu apparently wants to believe he has come off with a big victory when all he has done is reaffirm the dead-end policies that he has practiced during his office and that have brought Israel to its impossible position of becoming more isolated and resented among the world's civilized nations. Mr. Netanyahu instead of realizing his arrogance and blind devotion to ancient biblical roots seems to be working up a false sense of relish for digging himself and his country deeper into the hole he has led them into. As long as he continues deluding himself that he and his followers have the only self-righteous road to dominance in the Middle East he will continue his holocaust-like treatment of the Palestinians and eventually doom himself and his followers to the same defeated fate of other self-appointed messiahs.
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Not this time, however.
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The irony of it all continues. Israel, whose people were chased from one end of Europe to the other and despite a large percentage of it's people being a more secular and reasonable population, will continue to build on the West Bank, thumb their nose at any real chance of peace, suppress the Palestinians and further alienate themselves from the rest of the world. They- just like us here in the USA- are giving their extreme elements license to dictate the course of that country's events, which while vocal and influential do not truly reflect the desires of the majority. Like here they have allowed money and it's corrosive effects to ruin any semblance of democracy. By allowing Israeli politics to grandstand in our Congress of all places we have owned part of what is surely in store as a result of this election.
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While no Human Being worthy of the name wouldn't decry the hideous injustices, indignities, and cruelties that the Jewish People have had to endure for countless centuries (often for simply excelling at whatever they put their mind to, I might add), cruelties that culminated in the unspeakable horrors of WW2, the cold hard fact is that Modern Israel -- in that particular place, at that particular time -- was a horribly ill-conceived idea that required the forcible bending of existing reality to accommodate that myth-based Zionist dream, and ended up doing to the local Arabs precisely what had so wrongly and repeatedly been done to them.
In short, all those bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews had no business being there in the first place, regardless of what Balfour, Resolution 181, Truman, and Ben-Gurion's reality-challenged fellow Zionists might have said, and they had to expect some serious blowback from their understandably incensed neighbors -- back then, today, and for the foreseeable future. And the irony is that Netanyahu's re-election is actually going to make Israel less safe rather than more safe, now more hated and resented than ever -- not just in the region, but now around the world.
In short, all those bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews had no business being there in the first place, regardless of what Balfour, Resolution 181, Truman, and Ben-Gurion's reality-challenged fellow Zionists might have said, and they had to expect some serious blowback from their understandably incensed neighbors -- back then, today, and for the foreseeable future. And the irony is that Netanyahu's re-election is actually going to make Israel less safe rather than more safe, now more hated and resented than ever -- not just in the region, but now around the world.
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Well said, PT. I would add that I do not favor "The Islamic Republic of X" or "The Jewish State of Y," or the "Holy Roman Empire," or the "Christian Center Party of Z." Religion and politics as institutions must be separated decisively so that all of us can live peaceful competent lives in a secular world, without sacrificing our private religious beliefs and affiliations outside the political sphere. There is a public, civic sphere and a private religious sphere and the two should be entangled as little as possible.
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@PT --
In the face of your most articulate rant, I am almost speechless. ". . . all those bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews had no business being there in the first place . ."
I would only note that your insulting second paragraph may reflect your passionate feelings, but has little to do with historic fact, and you are the one who is "forcibly bending reality". Where, pray tell, do you think all those "bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews" should have gone after WWII? Back to Poland?
If you think Ben-Gurion's Zionists were "reality-challenged", what then to call the Palestinians? Even after the Arab Revolt, there was no specific "Palestinian" identity. The Arabs in the land the Romans named "Palestine" considered themselves part of a Pan-Islamist or Pan-Arab national movement.
In 1882, the population numbered about 300,000, among them 25,000 who were Jewish (Arab Jews, natives -- Yahud awlad Arab ("Jews, sons of Arabs") It wasn't until the beginning of the 20th century that a specific "Palestinian" and national identity began to rise -- about the same time that Herzl was working to create a Jewish state in the area, and some years after the first modern "aliyah" or emigration from Europe to Palestine that began in 1882.
As for doing to the local Arabs . . . and etc. Can we at least spare a few tears for the nearly 1,000,000 Jewish citizens of Arab-Muslim lands who were expelled or who fled, just like the Palestinians, in the conflicts of 1947-49?
In the face of your most articulate rant, I am almost speechless. ". . . all those bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews had no business being there in the first place . ."
I would only note that your insulting second paragraph may reflect your passionate feelings, but has little to do with historic fact, and you are the one who is "forcibly bending reality". Where, pray tell, do you think all those "bussed-in, shipped-in, and flown-in Jews" should have gone after WWII? Back to Poland?
If you think Ben-Gurion's Zionists were "reality-challenged", what then to call the Palestinians? Even after the Arab Revolt, there was no specific "Palestinian" identity. The Arabs in the land the Romans named "Palestine" considered themselves part of a Pan-Islamist or Pan-Arab national movement.
In 1882, the population numbered about 300,000, among them 25,000 who were Jewish (Arab Jews, natives -- Yahud awlad Arab ("Jews, sons of Arabs") It wasn't until the beginning of the 20th century that a specific "Palestinian" and national identity began to rise -- about the same time that Herzl was working to create a Jewish state in the area, and some years after the first modern "aliyah" or emigration from Europe to Palestine that began in 1882.
As for doing to the local Arabs . . . and etc. Can we at least spare a few tears for the nearly 1,000,000 Jewish citizens of Arab-Muslim lands who were expelled or who fled, just like the Palestinians, in the conflicts of 1947-49?
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Thanks for the 'articulate', at least, CR. And on that score, right-back-at-ya!
As for who's 'bending reality' the more egregiously, I'll leave that for others to decide, and defer to Hamlet's far greater wisdom than mine when he said "there's nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so". Because were this seemingly never ending nightmare simple and clear-cut, it would have been resolved decades ago.
As for who's 'bending reality' the more egregiously, I'll leave that for others to decide, and defer to Hamlet's far greater wisdom than mine when he said "there's nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so". Because were this seemingly never ending nightmare simple and clear-cut, it would have been resolved decades ago.
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Since the late 1970s, I have followed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I've read numerous articles, talked to numerous Jewish and Arab friends and, like many of others, I've become completely baffled on why the US has become such a lapdog for Israel.
We no longer claim that Israel is a "strategic interest." Netanyahu's policies and actions have been completely against our stated policy on the conflict. Now, it seems a majority of Israeli's have elected Netanyahu again. Now he's even more empowered.
This is no longer a matter of US-Israel relations. This is a moment of truth for the US.
? Like millions of Americans, I'm wondering, "Why is the US so morally blind in its relationship with Israel?" If this weren't so tragic, it'd be fascinating.
We no longer claim that Israel is a "strategic interest." Netanyahu's policies and actions have been completely against our stated policy on the conflict. Now, it seems a majority of Israeli's have elected Netanyahu again. Now he's even more empowered.
This is no longer a matter of US-Israel relations. This is a moment of truth for the US.
? Like millions of Americans, I'm wondering, "Why is the US so morally blind in its relationship with Israel?" If this weren't so tragic, it'd be fascinating.
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I dare say there's nothing fascinating about it. It's as obvious as it looks: politicians are, like Twain said, America's only criminal class. By their first afternoon in Washington, they've grown to like the place, can tell from the look in peoples' eyes they are now royalty, they call their chief of staff aside later that day, and say, "Let's start planning for my re-election."
And the chief of staff says, "I like it too. And the smartest thing we can do is be pro-Israel."
"Where do I sign?" says the congressman/senator.
"Well, I happen to have a piece of legislation right here," says the (vetted) chief of staff.
And the chief of staff says, "I like it too. And the smartest thing we can do is be pro-Israel."
"Where do I sign?" says the congressman/senator.
"Well, I happen to have a piece of legislation right here," says the (vetted) chief of staff.
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It's a sad day for Israel, Jews, the USA and the World, if Netanyahu continues to be Israeli Prime Minister.
Perhaps Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu is embarrassed and too decent, and will decide not join a coalition with the racist and anti-American Benjamin Netanyahu. Would that be sufficient to prevent Netanyahu from continuing as Prime Minister? Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu should certainly consider that possibility.
And if the Joint List of Arab-Israeli factions, were willing to join a coalition with Isaac Herzog / Zionist Union and Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu, would that be sufficient to make Isaac Herzog the Prime Minister?
Perhaps Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu is embarrassed and too decent, and will decide not join a coalition with the racist and anti-American Benjamin Netanyahu. Would that be sufficient to prevent Netanyahu from continuing as Prime Minister? Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu should certainly consider that possibility.
And if the Joint List of Arab-Israeli factions, were willing to join a coalition with Isaac Herzog / Zionist Union and Moshe Kahlon / Kulanu, would that be sufficient to make Isaac Herzog the Prime Minister?
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Israel has chosen for more of the same.
More bloodshed, more repression of the native Palestinians, probably a war every two or three years. Also more and more money going to military budget and the colonization of the Westbank, at the expense of healthcare, education and housing in Israel itself. Israel has chosen democratically.
More bloodshed, more repression of the native Palestinians, probably a war every two or three years. Also more and more money going to military budget and the colonization of the Westbank, at the expense of healthcare, education and housing in Israel itself. Israel has chosen democratically.
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This reminds me of Bush's reelection. During his first term, people internationally sympathized with Americans, drawing a distinction between the hard-line and destructive policies of the U.S. government on the one hand, and America as a country on the other. In the same way that Americans have recently drawn a distinction between the increasingly right-wing and destructive government of Israel (not friendly) and Israel as a country (friendly). However, after Bush was re-elected with a large majority, the sympathy evaporated and the mood changed to "you got what you deserved, and we will treat you accordingly". Similarly, there is now no longer a pressing need to cut Israel, the country, a lot of slack for the actions of its government.
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The US supports the right of citizens to determine their leadership via democratic elections, as GW Bush famously proclaimed in connection with Gaza (Hamas) and the West Bank (the PA). And, of course, it will continue to do so in the case of Israel.
The US also reserves the right to adjust its foreign policy in response to the choices a nation's citizenry makes.
The US also reserves the right to adjust its foreign policy in response to the choices a nation's citizenry makes.
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The Israeli voters have spoken and the American people should be asking if Israel really is our ally. Other than lecturing by Netanyahu, and an opportunity to be drawn into a war with Iran, what does Israel offer the United States? Indeed, the far less contentious Jordan is more reliable ally in maintaining order in the region. We should consider the eventual costs of the ties that bind our foreign policy options and our global reputation.
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Here's a thought: why do we pay so much attention to Israel? Let them work out their own problems. We have far more important things to deal with, and the more we cater to tiny little Israel's concerns, the more they feel entitled to act unilaterally rather than cooperatively.
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Good Point!
The U.S., particularly the current administration, has not been particularly concerned with Israel's national security concerns, nor has it been very cooperative with Israel's elected officials to address them. In this respect, Israel must go it alone!
The U.S., particularly the current administration, has not been particularly concerned with Israel's national security concerns, nor has it been very cooperative with Israel's elected officials to address them. In this respect, Israel must go it alone!
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Fine with me - as long as we completely forget about them, especially on the monetary side. I am sure they can manage.
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The United States should refuse to give another penny to the apartheid state of Israel. Time to cut them loose.
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Yes, AC. Israel has become for me one of the saddest chapters of modern history. I will now begin to regularly protest to my representatives the expenditure of my tax money to support Israeli racists, and will increase support for progressive elements in Israel.
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Here is the lede on another Times' story on the Israeli election:
"Benjamin Netanyahu’s resounding victory in Israeli elections on Tuesday appears to have dashed any hopes President Obama might have had for a way out of his tumultuous and often bitter relationship with the prime minister."
Notice? It's up to OBAMA to get along w Netanyahu. Absolutely incredible -- even after both Netanyahu and Israelis have shown their true face. (Singular, please.)
The article continues:
"In a statement earlier in the day, Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said only that Mr. Obama was “committed to working very closely with the winner of the ongoing elections to cement and further deepen the strong relationship between the United States and Israel.”
Yep. Don't think things are going to change much.
Do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got. That's always been the Jews' problem -- that and lacking the honesty to admit it.
"Benjamin Netanyahu’s resounding victory in Israeli elections on Tuesday appears to have dashed any hopes President Obama might have had for a way out of his tumultuous and often bitter relationship with the prime minister."
Notice? It's up to OBAMA to get along w Netanyahu. Absolutely incredible -- even after both Netanyahu and Israelis have shown their true face. (Singular, please.)
The article continues:
"In a statement earlier in the day, Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said only that Mr. Obama was “committed to working very closely with the winner of the ongoing elections to cement and further deepen the strong relationship between the United States and Israel.”
Yep. Don't think things are going to change much.
Do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got. That's always been the Jews' problem -- that and lacking the honesty to admit it.
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As a supporter of Israel, living there for a number of years, and left-leaning, I have felt that time is not on Israel's side. The combination of demographics, increasing radicalization of part of the muslim world, and the eventual miniaturization of weapons, where small hand-held rockets will be GPS guided from distances outside of Israel's traditional buffer zone, all are of great concern to the state's survival. Not to even mention Iran. I have felt that the only hope for long term survival was to work harder on peace with neighbors and palestinians - difficult as that is, while Israel is still the strongest country in the region.
I feel like this election sped up the timeline towards the country's eventual demise.
I feel like this election sped up the timeline towards the country's eventual demise.
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If Israel is ultimately doomed, it will be taking a lot of its hostile neighbors with it.
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I wish more people could see what you see. If we cannot adjust ourselves to our environment that includes new technologies, we can be in deep trouble.
True, pgm, but let's not forget the Likhud-fueled, right-wing radicalization of Israel's government.
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Reading these comments I am shocked that I don't see many Democrats accusing Netanyahu and Likud of voter fraud and intimidation, ballot box stuffing etc.etc etc. Plenty of rhetoric along the Israeli's don't know what's good for them, voting counter to their own interests etc. that was endemic on these comment boards last November however. For all the Democrats telling us to quit meddling in the middle east, you sure en masse seem to approve by silence Obama using tax payer money to meddle in Israeli elections to try and defeat Netanyahu however. I guess meddling is Ok when doing it in your version of the greater good eh? Good for Israel, good for Netanyahu and bad for Neville Obama who is trying to appease Iran right to the nuclear fires once Iran gets the bomb Democrats apparently think they so richly deserve. And if you are thinking about not printing this comment I suggest you read some of the ANTI Israeli comments you saw fit to print, many of them are much uglier and more malicious.
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Being an American citizen, I would think what's best for the US first. Not Israel, not Netanyahu.
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Our meddling as you put it has been in place long before Obama was elected, long before. And unless you condone Apartheid we do have a say in what goes on in the Middle East especially with Netanyahu's latest tactics and the mere fact that without the billions we give them they would cease to be. Until Israel can stand on its own for a change they had better get used to us meddling in their business, that or stop taking our money. And I don't ever see that happening. And to your arguement of censoring comments, most of mien have not been printed at all. Deal with it.
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No tax payer money was spent opposing Netanyahu. A private political consulting firm who had once worked for Obama was hired by Zionist Union.
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Bibi's vision for Israel is the status quo: Palestinians living where they are in oppressed poverty or leaving for another country, Israel continuing to expand by way of settlements and recruiting Jews from other countries to increase the Jewish population, and occasional mowing of the lawn to enforce the the status quo. And then Bibi will cash the big check to U.S. sends Israel every year and the U.S. will continue to be blamed for Israel's policies. Finally, Bibi will continue to push our right wingers to start a war with Iran so Israel will continue to be the only nuclear power in the region.
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When we call him "Bibi," we make him sound like an idiosyncatic uncle we're fond of, rather than the danger that he is to us all. Call him Netanyahu instead, and take the endearment out of the news coverage and commentary.
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You've been reading Bibi's playbook.
But there is one thing that you cannot completely put blame entirely upon Bibi: "[T]he U.S. will continue to be blamed for Israel's policies."
Who provides Israel the veto on the UN Security Council Resolutions condemning Israeli aggressions in Gaza and illegal settlement activity? Answer: The U. S. government, supported by the vast majority of Republican and Democratic Senators and Representatives in Congress.
When are our feckless elected representatives in Congress going to speak up in condemnation of the alleged reversal of position by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding the creation of the state of Palestine. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer!
But there is one thing that you cannot completely put blame entirely upon Bibi: "[T]he U.S. will continue to be blamed for Israel's policies."
Who provides Israel the veto on the UN Security Council Resolutions condemning Israeli aggressions in Gaza and illegal settlement activity? Answer: The U. S. government, supported by the vast majority of Republican and Democratic Senators and Representatives in Congress.
When are our feckless elected representatives in Congress going to speak up in condemnation of the alleged reversal of position by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding the creation of the state of Palestine. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer!
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I am using the word Bibi like how the world used to call Bush Dubya. Quite condescendingly.
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Americans waiting with bated breath for the results of Israel's election--they looked somewhat like Iraqis waiting with bated breath for the results of America's presidential elections in 2004 and '08 and the 2006 midterms. In other words, like a people whose own internal policy decisions and overall future trajectory are dependent on the outcome of an election in another country.
Sometimes the USA really doesn't feel like a sovereign, autonomous country that can make its own decisions on foreign affairs. The neocons like Tommy Cotton are now ecstatic and others are resigned to reality, because it appears the US commitment to Israel cannot under any circumstances ever be seriously altered or questioned.
Sometimes the USA really doesn't feel like a sovereign, autonomous country that can make its own decisions on foreign affairs. The neocons like Tommy Cotton are now ecstatic and others are resigned to reality, because it appears the US commitment to Israel cannot under any circumstances ever be seriously altered or questioned.
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Appears, the citizens of my country would now again benefit from the Jewish State of Israel continued effort in enforcing the nuclear non-proliferation regime in the Middle East. After their past enforcing actions in Saddam Hussein's Iraq and Bashar al-Assad's Syria. Because our diplomats struggle with no credible US military might backing them up as they negotiate the nuclear program with Iran. Iran that is already armed with ICBMs (but only for delivery of scientific Earth orbiting spacecraft). The mullahs could see all of US cards on the table and could plan on reopening their vast trade ties with anxious but peace-loving EU. So what to do about Israel now hovering once again above the P5+1 talks ?
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To my mind, the real question now is how does the American polity actually, effectively pressure its government to revoke its longstanding support of the state of Israel, and end this "special relationship."
I remember the kind of social activism that finally took root in the final years of South Africa's apartheid regime, when activism and public outcry became widespread in this nation. It made a difference, at least in terms of how our government dealt with--or DIDN'T--deal with South Africa.
The same is now required today. Enough of a mobilization that the insidious influence of AIPAC and other special interests are finally and decisively muted.
I remember the kind of social activism that finally took root in the final years of South Africa's apartheid regime, when activism and public outcry became widespread in this nation. It made a difference, at least in terms of how our government dealt with--or DIDN'T--deal with South Africa.
The same is now required today. Enough of a mobilization that the insidious influence of AIPAC and other special interests are finally and decisively muted.
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Israel should have gone with Pres Obama's pick. Pres Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize and knows what is in the best interests of Israel.
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Jimmy please, that award was given to him before he actually accomplished anything. He may have at one time uttered the word "peace" but you don't get an award for that. He won that because he wasn't Bush.
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Obama, though I'm sure he had his preference, never made a "pick." That's unlike Netanyahu, who made his preference for Romney in 2012 quite well known. Obama also did not decide to show up in Israel and make a speech in the Knesset without consulting with Mr. Netanyahu. All of which I guess you feel fine with, because you are convinced Mr. Netanyahu has only our best interests at heart and doesn't have any ulterior motives of his own.
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Many Americans question the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama. One member of the Nobel Committee, which awards the prize, was demoted for participating in that decision.
In the same vein, should Americans have gone with Mr. Netanyahu's purported choice and elected Mitt Romney in 2012, or is it preferable that each nation elect the leadership best able to address its own respective national security concerns?
In the same vein, should Americans have gone with Mr. Netanyahu's purported choice and elected Mitt Romney in 2012, or is it preferable that each nation elect the leadership best able to address its own respective national security concerns?
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What s good for Israel is good for America except not for Obama and his ultra liberal elite Maybe if Obama and Bibi swapped jobs for a couple months, it might teach Obama some humility and insight because he has been so blinded by his arrogance and pride that it has resulted in a failed domestic and foreign policy program for America.
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Who could question your wisdom? Who better than Bibi to teach humility!
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"What s good for Israel is good for America"
Do you have a house in the settlement under your name, too?
Do you have a house in the settlement under your name, too?
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What are the failed domestic and foreign policy programs you speak of?
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Many, including me, are wondering how come 'neck and neck' somehow ended-up being a relative blow-out. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but, knowing how devious and slippery Netanyahu is, I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the word went out among his supporters to lie to pollsters about their intentions so as to scare as many people as possible into voting for Likud (as in "Danger, danger, the Arabs are being bussed-in in droves!"). That, along with some highly persuasive arm-twisting and 'offers that couldn't be refused' -- a skill that the Irgun and Haganah perfected in the lead-up to Israel's creation, lest we forget. Guess the hardline Zionists 'still have what it takes', when necessary!
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@PT
You have a point. It brings to mind our presidential election of 2000, when candidate George W. Bush somehow "knew" he had won Florida and the presidency even before all the votes were counted.
You have a point. It brings to mind our presidential election of 2000, when candidate George W. Bush somehow "knew" he had won Florida and the presidency even before all the votes were counted.
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Israel receives a grossly disproportionate amount of attention and cash from the United States relative to its actual usefulness to our economic and security interests. This situation only exists because of the Israeli lobby, particularly AIPAC.
If we amend our campaign finance laws to eliminate bribery and in its place institute publicly financed elections, this and many other issues would quickly turn around into very different political and economic configurations.
If we amend our campaign finance laws to eliminate bribery and in its place institute publicly financed elections, this and many other issues would quickly turn around into very different political and economic configurations.
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Israel also faces disproportionate threats to its national existence. If Israel faced the same national security threats as Costa Rica, it would receive a proportional amount of U.S. military assistance, which would be negligible.
Conversely, if Costa Rica faced the same hostility from its neighbors, as Israel does, Costa Rica would require a very large and robust military establishment and maintain Central America's sole nuclear deterrent!
Conversely, if Costa Rica faced the same hostility from its neighbors, as Israel does, Costa Rica would require a very large and robust military establishment and maintain Central America's sole nuclear deterrent!
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You've come up with the solution, elimination of campaign donation bribery, by AIPAC and Adelson, etc., but you have to go further on publicly funded elections, and allow parties other than the two corrupt corporate owned Dems and Repubs, in other words, true Democracy, which those two parties hate, and try to suppress, with a passion.
Netanyahu is ahead of the curve.
He has recognized that bi-partisan support is a dying phenomenon. The reason unfortunately is that the none religious Jewish left wing in the US is dying as a whole.
American Conservatism and Reform are disappearing on the alters of social acceptance, and intermarriage. Right now we are left with the tail end of the rapidly dying grandparents who had a strong Jewish identity, their aging baby-boomer kids, who have some loose nostalgic identity, and their kids who have almost nothing. There is only so much you can keep watering Jewish identity down before it losses its homeostasis.
Within a short time what will be left of those self identifying as Jewish people will be the religious, perhaps a portion of Conservative who are moving to the right, and those living in the State of Israel. The Christian right will support.
That is the underlying phenomenon that Netanyahu has recognized. If you decided that Jewish identity is not worth investing in for your children's future through real time and effort commitments and strong Jewish education than you must bear the consequences of that decision. You have less skin in the game, and less to lose. Those with less to lose have less reason to make the hard, sometimes unpopular, decisions and therefore less say. For them what is culturally popular, comfortable, and makes them feel progressive will always come first- just as it is when it came to Judaism's future in general.
He has recognized that bi-partisan support is a dying phenomenon. The reason unfortunately is that the none religious Jewish left wing in the US is dying as a whole.
American Conservatism and Reform are disappearing on the alters of social acceptance, and intermarriage. Right now we are left with the tail end of the rapidly dying grandparents who had a strong Jewish identity, their aging baby-boomer kids, who have some loose nostalgic identity, and their kids who have almost nothing. There is only so much you can keep watering Jewish identity down before it losses its homeostasis.
Within a short time what will be left of those self identifying as Jewish people will be the religious, perhaps a portion of Conservative who are moving to the right, and those living in the State of Israel. The Christian right will support.
That is the underlying phenomenon that Netanyahu has recognized. If you decided that Jewish identity is not worth investing in for your children's future through real time and effort commitments and strong Jewish education than you must bear the consequences of that decision. You have less skin in the game, and less to lose. Those with less to lose have less reason to make the hard, sometimes unpopular, decisions and therefore less say. For them what is culturally popular, comfortable, and makes them feel progressive will always come first- just as it is when it came to Judaism's future in general.
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Bibi's last two despicable comments, before the polls closed, make plenty of justification for 'our inspirational leader' to show some spine and cut all US military and financial aid to Israel.
Israel now perfectly fits the term: rogue nation.
Israel now perfectly fits the term: rogue nation.
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It's interesting the similarity between the right wing in our congress and in Israeli politics. Both are minorities but their influence far outweighs their numbers. But then we all know even the biggest machine can be brought down with a small wrench.
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Seriously.
The Israeli electorate is pretty much like most of the US electorate, and everybody's shocked? The East and West Coast political and social environments are like Tel Aviv, and the US heartland and Southland are like the settlements.
Does anyone really truly believe--without a sprinkling of fairy dust--that the US will elect a liberal President--regardless of party--in its next election? Let's start counting the days til Hillary's photo op with Bibi as she tours, say, Har Homa...
The only country that has had trouble understanding Israel's contempt for every goyishe nation has been the US. They have no need to pretend, because no US government will ever cut the money stream. We're stuck in this marriage.
But Europe and the rest of the world aren't, and the US is no longer the big kid in the sandbox. The next few years will be interesting...
The Israeli electorate is pretty much like most of the US electorate, and everybody's shocked? The East and West Coast political and social environments are like Tel Aviv, and the US heartland and Southland are like the settlements.
Does anyone really truly believe--without a sprinkling of fairy dust--that the US will elect a liberal President--regardless of party--in its next election? Let's start counting the days til Hillary's photo op with Bibi as she tours, say, Har Homa...
The only country that has had trouble understanding Israel's contempt for every goyishe nation has been the US. They have no need to pretend, because no US government will ever cut the money stream. We're stuck in this marriage.
But Europe and the rest of the world aren't, and the US is no longer the big kid in the sandbox. The next few years will be interesting...
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As long as Republicans keep making unforced errors and their typical anti-this and anti-that group statements, American will continue to elect Democrats as POTUS. That is one election that is quite difficult to gerrymander.
So this clown Netanyahu said under him there will not be a Palestinian States, and that been his position over his leadership, so why is American trying to work a deal between the two. Israel does not dictate whether one can be a State no more than Iran can dictate whether Israel is a State.
Dude wants to continue building in the occupied area and has never been genuine about negotiations. Israel cannot attack Iran without an OK from the US would proves Israel with $3 billion in Welfare each year!
Dude wants to continue building in the occupied area and has never been genuine about negotiations. Israel cannot attack Iran without an OK from the US would proves Israel with $3 billion in Welfare each year!
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They may have to if attacked without U.S. approval - for it's own survival.
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Name calling from a liberal progressive democrat. What happened to all that push for helpful dialogue two wrongs don't make a right...nonsense? Welcome back!
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Netanyahu's re-election bodes well for Israel. Leftists at the helm, would have made agreements with the Arabs which would only undermine Israel's security. The only way for Israel to survive is to control its destiny and get the Arabs to pay heed. Hamas on one side. the Hezzies on another, Iran perpetually vowing destruction and the encroachment by ISIS... They need a strong leader who is unequivocal about what it takes to secure Israel and that's what they have. No way the Arabs/ Muslims will let Israel live in peace.
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While the tragedy of Netanayu's victory is clear enough to the commentators here the really big point is being missed. This is a victory not only for the apartheid supporters of Greater Israel but worse a victory for those who are deliberately sabotaging US democracy.
The GOP will see this as a victory but the problem is deeper. Anyone watching or supporting Obama trying to do the intelligent things to IMPROVE international relationships as opposed to more war will see this as a victory for the war hawks, AIPAC; Murdoch and the Adelsons of this world.
The incredible. irony is the the T Party has won. The millenialists, the Islamophobes, the security state. Anyone who doubts Obama has enemies within his own Party need to ask why Obama needed to be able to have a veto to get his way on attempting peace with Iran. Now those who say peace treaties signed by a US POTUS's mean nothing, only declarations of war or those who believe treason against one's own country is acceptable have won because democratic left wing wins are now by their nature seen as illegitimate.
The US will now either have to abandon any pretense it is open minded and principled or it will have to abandon Israels present government and start to do as promised. This will not happen.
The good guys lost and if Hillary wins it will be the same as if McCain, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz win. They all feed at the same trough. We NEED Elizabeth Warren to run and win to actually have a democratic choice in the matter!
The GOP will see this as a victory but the problem is deeper. Anyone watching or supporting Obama trying to do the intelligent things to IMPROVE international relationships as opposed to more war will see this as a victory for the war hawks, AIPAC; Murdoch and the Adelsons of this world.
The incredible. irony is the the T Party has won. The millenialists, the Islamophobes, the security state. Anyone who doubts Obama has enemies within his own Party need to ask why Obama needed to be able to have a veto to get his way on attempting peace with Iran. Now those who say peace treaties signed by a US POTUS's mean nothing, only declarations of war or those who believe treason against one's own country is acceptable have won because democratic left wing wins are now by their nature seen as illegitimate.
The US will now either have to abandon any pretense it is open minded and principled or it will have to abandon Israels present government and start to do as promised. This will not happen.
The good guys lost and if Hillary wins it will be the same as if McCain, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz win. They all feed at the same trough. We NEED Elizabeth Warren to run and win to actually have a democratic choice in the matter!
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Well said! I was holding out so much hope that Warren would run. But first, Progressives need to strengthen their base and really take part in more widespread, grass-roots activism. This should start NOW if we want any hope of a true Progressive to be elected to the White House in the foreseeable future. The fact is that if everyone voted, a Progressive candidate would win. Voter turnout last election was a little over 60%. So we also need to work on protecting and expanding voting rights. I hope to see real change soon.
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First, Vlad, to accept your comment as a clear view of the future, we must accept the idea that a two-state solution would ever be accepted by not just the Palistininean Authoriity but by all the states surrounding Israel. It isn't apartheid that has won but rather the idea that Jews have a right to exist.
The GOP will learn nothing from this (or at least the leadership will not) because they are not looking to learn a lesson--they believe they have all the support they need to put forth their tired and dated candiates and nothing, not even the 2014 election, has changed their minds on that.
The US will not need to abandon anything either; we are a nation that has many views and many views are expressed. Since there are more Jews living in the US than in Israel, Israel will not be abandoned---and why would any one want to abandon Israel, the left in Israel disagrees with Netanyahu and continues to work toward something like you want to recommend; even though I and many here in the US might disagree with working toward this, they do not.
The idea that "good" or "bad" has won or lost in an election is a very simplified view of life. Clinton isn't McCain, McCain isn't Bush and Bush isn't Cruz. Warren, for the left in the US, might be answer but it simply may be that we do not know enough about her---where as Clinton, et al. are too well known, with little to offer in either power or policy.
I would remind you that democratic choice means actually voting.
The GOP will learn nothing from this (or at least the leadership will not) because they are not looking to learn a lesson--they believe they have all the support they need to put forth their tired and dated candiates and nothing, not even the 2014 election, has changed their minds on that.
The US will not need to abandon anything either; we are a nation that has many views and many views are expressed. Since there are more Jews living in the US than in Israel, Israel will not be abandoned---and why would any one want to abandon Israel, the left in Israel disagrees with Netanyahu and continues to work toward something like you want to recommend; even though I and many here in the US might disagree with working toward this, they do not.
The idea that "good" or "bad" has won or lost in an election is a very simplified view of life. Clinton isn't McCain, McCain isn't Bush and Bush isn't Cruz. Warren, for the left in the US, might be answer but it simply may be that we do not know enough about her---where as Clinton, et al. are too well known, with little to offer in either power or policy.
I would remind you that democratic choice means actually voting.
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The left loves bandying Warren's name about but what exactly has she accomplished? She doesn' yet have the experience, the Presidency is not a place for learning we don't need another president with little experience.
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One message Israel needs to hear loud and clear. If you attack Iran we're not going to back you up, you're on your own. But with a congress like we have now they might not be getting that message. How easy it would be to ignite a war in the Middle East, dragging us into it.
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"“Our country’s everyday reality doesn’t give us the luxury for delay,” says Mr. Netanyahu" Yes, be afraid, very afraid. That is what keeps Netanyahu in power in spite of his warmongering and illegal land grabbing. Well, that and the US's shameful support.
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Now that Netanyahu has made it clear , that Israel will never withdraw from the West Bank, the ball is in the UN's court. When they next table a vote to end the illegal occupation - the United States should no longer be the reliable veto.
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Ordinarily, I wouldn't really care who won the Israeli elections. The problem is that the nation I really care for, this United States of America, is stuck with such an ally. It's painful to watch all this because we will not or cannot change this relationship.
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Certainly, many of those Israeli voters who voted for Mr. Netanyahu felt the same about the present administration! They look forward to January 20, 2017, when Obama's successor takes over. Whoever that may be, whether Ms. Clinton, or one of her Republican opponents, is far more likely to support the U.S. - Israeli relationship.
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Those who predicted his opponent would win gave us another Dewey victory.
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It's time to reduce our support for Israel and look at the Middle East in a fair and balanced manner.
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The United States must cut off all aid to Israel immediately. Force the recall of the Israeli ambassador. Stop standing up for Israel in the United Nations. Israel is NOT a friend to us. Wake up, America!!
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Netanyahu is no better, no different, than Putin. He's a nefarious egoist, who's fanning the flames of hate and conflict to further his own interests.
Certainly he knows that his intransigence, his racist remarks will inflame fundamentalists, and contribute to more terror and death. And so he puts Jews (and non-Jews) at even more risk, as he attempts to engender sympathy for his bellicose intent. And he engages the support and aid of the most ignorant among us, like John Boehner.
This is the kind of pathological power grasping that should be condemned by the United States, not valorized.
Certainly he knows that his intransigence, his racist remarks will inflame fundamentalists, and contribute to more terror and death. And so he puts Jews (and non-Jews) at even more risk, as he attempts to engender sympathy for his bellicose intent. And he engages the support and aid of the most ignorant among us, like John Boehner.
This is the kind of pathological power grasping that should be condemned by the United States, not valorized.
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spot on. It is not simple with all the past that is prologue...however, if there is a way to achieve détente with Israel's hostile neighbors and recognition there is a modicum of potential today as Egypt, Jordan and Iran are now united against ISIS. Being rigid is not helpful to Israel - and of course aligning with the worst GOP ever in our history is far less than helpful.
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Are you on Obama's payroll also - or just refuse to see what's happening in the nuclear, ISIS run mid-east. Iran's word on an agreement is just about as good as "you can keep you health plan - period."
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Likening Netanyahu to Putin is ridiculous and an insult to Putin.
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Bibi needs to acknowledge those voters who supported him simply because they rejected Obama's interference in the election and Obama's support for Islamic control of Jerusalem.
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Strange all these comments about the Israeli elections. I too perhaps was looking forward to a change but keep in mind, that Israel is the only country in this region of the world where free elections are held. They even have Arab parties participating. None of this would take place in any Arab country, not even the most secular so before all of you jump on the bandwagon and beat the Israelis (as usual) on the head, think about this. Yes, the Israelis have now chosen Netanyahu again for a fourth term and they will therefore, for good or bad, reap what they sow, but as Americans, we are famous for sticking our noses into everyone else's business without taking into account our own inadequacies, so we too reap what we sow. Let's mind our own business, for once.
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"Let's mind our own business, for once."
As long as billions in US tax dollars are being sent to Israel to fund Israeli terrorism and occupation, it absolutely is our business.
" Israel is the only country in this region of the world where free elections are held. "
Wow. It seems there are still a few left who haven't realized that that bread went stale a long time ago.
As long as billions in US tax dollars are being sent to Israel to fund Israeli terrorism and occupation, it absolutely is our business.
" Israel is the only country in this region of the world where free elections are held. "
Wow. It seems there are still a few left who haven't realized that that bread went stale a long time ago.
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You make some decent points, rocketship, but you realize we 'stick our nose' in their business because it is our tax dollars that go to support them.
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"If we encroached on land just over the Canadian border"
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We did not"encroach." We were attacked. What if the US was attacked by Canada????! another story....
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We did not"encroach." We were attacked. What if the US was attacked by Canada????! another story....
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More like carpet-bombing the entire territory in Gaza in disproportionate retaliatory violence which only ensures another generation of Arab hatred.
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then perhaps the Arabs should refrain starting things they know they cannot finish, just to get pummeled again. They do it because they know it plays to liberal sympathy for the underdog.
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What ensures endless generations of Arab hatred are the surrounding Arab nations which will never allow the Palestinians to live side by side in peace with a Jewish Israel. Why will no one recognize this reality and factor it in when telling Israel how to secure their own security?
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Sorry I don't respect Obama at all even though he's President. It's a choice between the community organizer and the soldier, and my answer is simple. Obama told us
"If you like your insurance you can keep it."
Today he tells us
"Israel is safer with an agreement in place by Kerry"
He didn't tell us the truth then and he's not telling us the truth now.
"If you like your insurance you can keep it."
Today he tells us
"Israel is safer with an agreement in place by Kerry"
He didn't tell us the truth then and he's not telling us the truth now.
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So -- is Jersey now in Israel -- if not - then you should be since that is where your loyalty lies as opposed to with our president and the best interests of the United States.
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Sherr29: No, Jersey is not in Israel, but would just about fit inside of Israel. They are just about the same size, both around 8000 sq miles (Israel pre-1967 borders. With Gaza and West Bank closer to 10K.) Maybe the Jersey example you bring up will help you appreciate how tiny a country Israel is and the lengths it must go to protect itself from it's significantly larger (both in area and population) hostile neighbors.
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The Palestinians could improve their likelihood of gaining their own state by stopping the firing of missiles Gaza at Israel and by recognizing Israel as a Jewish State. Unfortunately Netanyahu's re-election is a terrible event. He is likely to alienate Jews around the world from Israel and make Israel's long term survival much more precarious.
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Simply put and simple true.
Israel has chosen for more of the same.
More bloodshed, more repression of the native Palestinians, probably a war every two or three years. Also more and more money going to military budget and the colonization of the Westbank, at the expense of healthcare, education and housing in Israel itself. Israel has chosen democratically.
More bloodshed, more repression of the native Palestinians, probably a war every two or three years. Also more and more money going to military budget and the colonization of the Westbank, at the expense of healthcare, education and housing in Israel itself. Israel has chosen democratically.
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In reference to Israelis living in the West Bank, I wish the words "settlements" and "settlers" would stop being used. Merriam-Webster defines a settler as "a person who goes to live in a new place where usually there are few or no people." where as a "colony" is defined as "an area that is controlled by or belongs to a country and is usually far away from it." Many people live in the West Bank and have done so for centuries so the appropriate words are "colonists" and "colonies". Those two words are the correct words because the British Mandate of Palestine was divided into two states, the Jewish state and an Arab state. Citizens of Israel have been able to create colonies in the West Bank because of events starting in 1967 and will continue to do so because of the military situation in the West Bank. Please judge the above statement using facts, not emotion.
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'... the appropriate words are "colonists" and "colonies".'
By your own definition, a colony is "usually far away". The West Bank is not "far away" from Israel, so your putative "colonies" must be unusual.
By your own definition, a colony is "usually far away". The West Bank is not "far away" from Israel, so your putative "colonies" must be unusual.
Bikebrains writes: "...the British Mandate of Palestine was divided into two states, the Jewish state and an Arab state." The Arabs have always rejected that divide, and have fought (and lost) a few wars trying to destroy Israel. So, do you really think Israel has a peace partner in the Palestinians? Long ago they probably should have relocated all of the Arabs living on the land they now control as a result of those failed wars, out of the country, as Meir Kahane recognized and advocated.
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Drop the word "putative" and you will be absolutely correct. I once read a description of Ireland as the only colony in Europe. The long history of difficulties between the Brits and the Irish is well known and sad.
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It is a very sad day for the World. Netanyahu's greed and arrogance are matched only by his lies. For him to abandon his pledge on the Two State Solution at the 11th hour shows that he never wanted Peace or Balance with Palestine. He wants their entire Country for himself; of Jews, by jews, and for Jews. This is ugly, cruel, extremely wrong and globally pathetic.
The United States should immediately cut all financial and military aid to Israel. Of course, this won't happen - because of Netanyahu's lap dog - Boehner - who would rather cut Health Insurance for Americans.
As the rich get richer, and the World becomes more polluted and unblanced, creeps like Netanyahu and Boehner show that while someone may have tons and tons of Money, their Soul is circling the drain.
The United States should immediately cut all financial and military aid to Israel. Of course, this won't happen - because of Netanyahu's lap dog - Boehner - who would rather cut Health Insurance for Americans.
As the rich get richer, and the World becomes more polluted and unblanced, creeps like Netanyahu and Boehner show that while someone may have tons and tons of Money, their Soul is circling the drain.
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Finally - the GOP wins a presidential election.
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Immediate worldwide sanctions against all Israeli goods and services originating in Occupied Palestine and nullification of all Israeli land titles in Occupied Palestine.
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I guess this election is a milestone for the Jews. They have learned not to trust liberals, Arabs, Persians, conservatives, Europeans, Americans or anyone else when it comes to their security. "Never Again". They no longer care what the US thinks and wants them to do. Or anyone else. What the attacks in France and the rest of the EU have done is reinforced for the Jews that the world hates them and they would rather die with a rifle in their hand than huddled at the back of a furnace. Bibi embodies this view. They gave back Gaza and got missiles for their trouble.
They are not stupid people. They no longer trust anyone and for good reason. Now, they can live free or die. That's what's really going on.
They will soon rebuild the Third Temple.
They are not stupid people. They no longer trust anyone and for good reason. Now, they can live free or die. That's what's really going on.
They will soon rebuild the Third Temple.
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you certainly do not speak for a majority of Jews!
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Great! Now we can stop sending them money! Israel can live free or die alone.
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Well, after Bibi's landslide re-election, perhaps I do....
What was wrong with my comment? Does the truth hurt that much? I will just stick with USA Today and CNN that don't "censor" commentary. Sad. And good luck with that digital campaign, no more fancy office parties due to budget cuts I would imagine.....Bye forever...
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Uh, Paul, are you referring to your comments on GOP Strategy? If so, maybe you should scroll a bit before blowing up. Those comments are there.
I urge everyone to read this beautiful article by Hajo Meyer, who was a Holocaust survivor, anti-Zionist, and activist for Palestinians. He passed away this past August, and was one of the most beautiful souls on this planet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hajo-meyer/an-ethical-tradition-betr_b_438...
Mr.Meyer is also the author of a fantastic, must-read book called The End of Judaism: An Ethical Tradition Betrayed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hajo-meyer/an-ethical-tradition-betr_b_438...
Mr.Meyer is also the author of a fantastic, must-read book called The End of Judaism: An Ethical Tradition Betrayed.
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I thought Jews were supposed to be smart.
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This election was really more of a rejection of Obama and his support for Islamic control of Jerusalem. Ultimately, Israelis do not support being pushed into the ocean.
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No, you will see in the coming decade of Americans tiring of Israel, dwindling support . Rejection of Obama? No . Fear mongering & greed for more land, yes! Pushed into an ocean? Foolish talk.
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GOP 2016 election strategy
Phase 1 - Netanyahu re-elected - complete
Phase 2 - Jeb Bush becomes candidate with billions from big oil - in progress
Phase 3 - Bush and Netanyahu campaign together against appeaser Clinton - to be scheduled
Phase 4 - Rick Scott to purge voter rolls (per Jeb 2000 methods) in time for 2016 election so that even though the lines are long, when they reach the voting booth they will be told they are not allowed to vote, discouraging those still in line - Scott in progress
Phase 5 - Bush elected with Jewish Florida vote as key component
Phase 6 - develop war strategy with Iran, alienate Europe regarding 2-state solution prior to inauguration - Cheney hired as consultant in progress
Phase 1 - Netanyahu re-elected - complete
Phase 2 - Jeb Bush becomes candidate with billions from big oil - in progress
Phase 3 - Bush and Netanyahu campaign together against appeaser Clinton - to be scheduled
Phase 4 - Rick Scott to purge voter rolls (per Jeb 2000 methods) in time for 2016 election so that even though the lines are long, when they reach the voting booth they will be told they are not allowed to vote, discouraging those still in line - Scott in progress
Phase 5 - Bush elected with Jewish Florida vote as key component
Phase 6 - develop war strategy with Iran, alienate Europe regarding 2-state solution prior to inauguration - Cheney hired as consultant in progress
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It would appear that Israel has the same short sighted an uninformed voters as does the US. We can anticipate more conflicts with Hamas, bombings, killings and the continued confiscation of lands in the West Bank. One thing we cannot expect is peace.
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It would be good if the readers knew more precisely the breakdown of all the parties that won seats and what coalitions they are in or whether they are independent. I am mostly wondering whether the Arab Israelis won any seats and what percentage of the vote they had.
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Last night: "Too close to call!"
This morning: "Landslide Victory!"?
Please.
Bibi played the whole world....with the world's assistance!
He campaigned from the US Congress with sycophantic Republican acquiescence flying squarely in the face of American tradition. He played a naked race card warning "the Arabs are voting in droves!!". And in a desperate, shameless last gasp, ADMITTED he'd NEVER allow a two-state solution!
BOLD! In your face America!! Now, he's going to circle back and shake us down for another $3 BILLION annually DESPITE our supposed "commitment" to a two-state solution.
When we give him the dough - and we WILL - our fake "commitment" will be exposed for what it is - FAKE!
America, have you no shame?
This morning: "Landslide Victory!"?
Please.
Bibi played the whole world....with the world's assistance!
He campaigned from the US Congress with sycophantic Republican acquiescence flying squarely in the face of American tradition. He played a naked race card warning "the Arabs are voting in droves!!". And in a desperate, shameless last gasp, ADMITTED he'd NEVER allow a two-state solution!
BOLD! In your face America!! Now, he's going to circle back and shake us down for another $3 BILLION annually DESPITE our supposed "commitment" to a two-state solution.
When we give him the dough - and we WILL - our fake "commitment" will be exposed for what it is - FAKE!
America, have you no shame?
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Something stinks here. It was a smell I first picked up in 2000 when I went to bed one night and Al Gore was to be our next president; the clear winner, only to find that a guy who could rarely speak two sentences in a row correctly had usurped him.
How can the reports coming in from yesterday, even after the polls closed, have been so off? I know they didn't say that someone or party had won in Israel yet, but they were way too close to call. Then I wake up today with the NYT stating that Netanyahu won a "Sound" victory.
I wonder if that racist rant he preformed on TV and Radio was to offer cover for some electioneering shenanigans? Something like, "Well, it was his last minute plea that brought out the vote for him?" Something like that.
Something smells off.
How can the reports coming in from yesterday, even after the polls closed, have been so off? I know they didn't say that someone or party had won in Israel yet, but they were way too close to call. Then I wake up today with the NYT stating that Netanyahu won a "Sound" victory.
I wonder if that racist rant he preformed on TV and Radio was to offer cover for some electioneering shenanigans? Something like, "Well, it was his last minute plea that brought out the vote for him?" Something like that.
Something smells off.
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It's all a right wing conspiracy. As long as you, Hillary Clinton, and even Obama continue to believe that the liberal Democrat view of things is always correct, you will continue to have to come up with conspiracy theories to explain why you have lost on any issue, or in any election.
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Likud only won 23% of the popular vote. That was the single largest total of any party. In the Israeli parliamentaryy system, the end up with 30 of 120 seats. Hardly a "ringing majority." But the way the government is assembled from a coalition of parties, Bibi, as head of Likud, gets to sit in the Prime Minister' seat. Talk about the tail wagging the dog. In some alternate universe, that is called democracy. It certainly does not represnt the wishes of the 77% of the electorate who voted for "somebody else."
Our unconditional support of Israel needs to be reevaluated when its leaders lie and are disingenuous. Netanyahu isn't interested in peace and his closed minded thinking is a liability to his country and to us as an ally. The world is changing and our foreign policies need to change with it. Radical fundamentalists will continue to exist but our foreign policies can't be inflammatory to the extent it jeopardizes our safety. We need to reevaluate our thinking, with a caveat of never capitulating or being held hostage to those who don't truly seek peace. Netanyahu played Boehner and the U.S. congress like an old fiddle.
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With the re-election of Netanyahu what does it say about the people of Israel? That they condoned his racist rhetoric; his rogue and thuggish demeanor; and that the very thought of Israeli Arab citizens in Israel exercising their right to vote,” by the bus loads”, was too much for Bibi’s constituents! The re-election of Netanyahu will promote more fear mongering, mistrust and expanding settlements that will invite counter strikes to the Israeli encroachment; followed by a heavy handed Israeli response. Netanyahu's reelection will foster more isolation within the world community and a less than amicable relationship between the US and Israel. What was said as a result of his reelection was yes to a bunker and siege mentality; no to peace and tranquility within the region and no to the issues of the Palestinians. Good Luck with your choice!
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True. It didn't say much of us that Americans elected George W. Bush twice.
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Richard, you're right. But the good news was that after those two terms we got wiser and elected a theoretically unelectable Black dude called Barack Hussein Obama. While a lot of people still vocally bash the guy and everything he does, he has managed to pull the wars back, reduce the paranoia and out-of-control jingoism. So there is hope that Israelis will also tire of Netanyahu's scare tactics and vote for real change next time. It would not look like smooth change, it will be noisy and chaotic, "You lie!" kind of change, but it will be real change for people in the long run.
To George's concerns - Bush's second term was a more rational and contrite one eventually. He realized that he had not received a mandate to do more of the same, he had received a mandate to clean up the mess he made the first time around and show he was made of better stuff. He had to back off on a lot of the excesses and while the damage done lasted longer than his term, he was a lot more contrite person by then.
Hopefully Netanyahu's crybaby tactics which won the election will show him as a weak leader who will say or do anything to stay in power. That will lead to pushback and it may even lead him to face reality head on and show initiative instead of obstruction. Who knows we just might have peace in Isreal too. Nixon in China and all that jazz.
To George's concerns - Bush's second term was a more rational and contrite one eventually. He realized that he had not received a mandate to do more of the same, he had received a mandate to clean up the mess he made the first time around and show he was made of better stuff. He had to back off on a lot of the excesses and while the damage done lasted longer than his term, he was a lot more contrite person by then.
Hopefully Netanyahu's crybaby tactics which won the election will show him as a weak leader who will say or do anything to stay in power. That will lead to pushback and it may even lead him to face reality head on and show initiative instead of obstruction. Who knows we just might have peace in Isreal too. Nixon in China and all that jazz.
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My heart breaks for the Palestinians, who have been under a brutal, violent Israeli occupation for so many decades. They have been dehumanized, have seen their lands stolen from them, their homes, farms, and olive groves destroyed, and have had their livelihoods completely obliterated by Israeli Forces. They have been terrorized by the settlers of places like Hebron, who make their lives a daily living hell by attacking them and setting fire to their homes and farms. Then when Palestinians occasionally resist, they are called "terrorists." Why? The color of their skin? The way they dress? Any group who is tortured for so long would resist. No group could possibly just sit back and take the injustice.
It is so sad that it has taken this long for some Americans to realize that Israel has never wanted peace. It is sad to see the majority of Israelis vote for racism, apartheid, and brutal occupation of stolen lands. It is sad that the US continues to support and fund this brutality.
The Palestinians have waited so long for justice, and now they will have to wait even longer, until the Israeli people refuse to be brainwashed by violence and hate and until a truly just, peaceful Israeli party comes along.
"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." - Nelson Mandela
It is so sad that it has taken this long for some Americans to realize that Israel has never wanted peace. It is sad to see the majority of Israelis vote for racism, apartheid, and brutal occupation of stolen lands. It is sad that the US continues to support and fund this brutality.
The Palestinians have waited so long for justice, and now they will have to wait even longer, until the Israeli people refuse to be brainwashed by violence and hate and until a truly just, peaceful Israeli party comes along.
"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians." - Nelson Mandela
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"Then when Palestinians occasionally resist, they are called "terrorists." Why? The color of their skin? The way they dress? "
Ummm, no. They are called terrorists because they blow up pizza parlors, launch rockets at civilian centers, and then use their own people as human shields, drawing fire to schools, hospitals and old-age homes.
Hopes that helps to clarify the situation for you.
Ummm, no. They are called terrorists because they blow up pizza parlors, launch rockets at civilian centers, and then use their own people as human shields, drawing fire to schools, hospitals and old-age homes.
Hopes that helps to clarify the situation for you.
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Obama should teach israel how to behave as a Micronesian third World entity
First cut all the Billions of $$$ and give all to our American poors.Second No military aid as long as the zionist entity occupy PALESTINE. Enough is enough!!
First cut all the Billions of $$$ and give all to our American poors.Second No military aid as long as the zionist entity occupy PALESTINE. Enough is enough!!
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Then when Palestinians occasionally resist, they are called "terrorists." Why? The color of their skin? The way they dress?
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No it is the suicide bombers and the rocket attacks.
What passes for a Palestinian government doesn't want peace. The Arab states surrounding what is called palestine don't want peace. They have been offered it many times and have declined it always.
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No it is the suicide bombers and the rocket attacks.
What passes for a Palestinian government doesn't want peace. The Arab states surrounding what is called palestine don't want peace. They have been offered it many times and have declined it always.
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I love all the comments posted here by outraged and aggrieved Americans sitting comfortably in the suburbs of Vermont and Seattle and New Jersey. Are they so concerned about all the elections in countries that bring to power far more corrupt and oppressive regimes - Oh wait a minute that's right those countries dont have elections. Think what you want, but Netanyahu is not corrupt and holds together an incredibly volatile country in a dangerous neighborhood. Who else is there to do the same? and you blame him for not making peace with who, avowed terrorists seeking the destruction of his country?! And for those who call for aid to end for Israel, where else would you call for aid to be ended, Egypt, the home of Mohammed Atta maybe? I don't hear calls for that. So as you drive your late model Volvo out to the organic food coop in Brattleboro and have a two hour chat over organic coffee with the expat Wallstreeter millionaire Skypeing his daughter at Bard, remember, you are not there and absolutely reap the benefits of our hard line ally in the middle east.
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"Are they so concerned about all the elections in countries that bring to power far more corrupt and oppressive regimes".
It looks like Israel has gone from "God's chosen" and "purity of arms" to "far [less] corrupt and oppressive".
It looks like Israel has gone from "God's chosen" and "purity of arms" to "far [less] corrupt and oppressive".
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Bravo! No one has said it better. You forgot to mention that the leadership in Iran, with whom we are negotiating a ban on nuclear weapons, has also called for the annihilation of israel. Their ambassador to the US said in a recent interview that the treaty is not about "trust" but rather verification. Only a fool would believe that that's something attainable.
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Could list the benefits the U.S. reaps from our hard line "ally," Israel?
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Congrats to Bibi and to the Israeli people! Being surrounded by savages focused on Israel's destruction, Bibi is just the kind of leader needed. Too bad the American electorate is so soft.
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Since the American electorate is so soft, then perhaps you would be more comfortable living in Israel? Or are you one of those cheerleaders who likes being 5,000 miles away from the action?
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Sounds like he is either a masochist or a narcissist but, in any event, not a realist.
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Unfortunately just as Republicans won the last election but America lost; Netanyahu won this election but Israel lost. That is unless moving backwards rather than forwards, honoring war rather than peace, valuing the rights of a few over the rights of all is seen as a good thing.
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Agreed....in spirit.
Actually, the WORLD lost. Apartheid won....and when we send the next $3 BILLION, "we" will have endorsed that "victory".
Actually, the WORLD lost. Apartheid won....and when we send the next $3 BILLION, "we" will have endorsed that "victory".
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Curious as to why the press said this election was too close to call and then the results were called a run-away. Are the prognosticators that useless or did the electorate play it close to the vest up to the moment of making their choice?
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The answer is easy. The Times and et. al. the left in general thought Jews would vote for Obama in Israel and endorse Herzog. But really, the Kristols and Brunis live in the protected United States where they can write about terrorism with impunity but never see a missile flying overhead in Tel Aviv. Basically, the Times writers are unrealistic journalists - not real journalists.
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The prognosticators were cheering for the anti-Netanyahu crowd, most of whom are located in the White House and the DNC offices.
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So the Israeli people have re-elected a person who insulted my president. I have been a strong supporter of Israel, but I am re-evaluating my position. Enough is enough.
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"I have been a strong supporter of Israel, ..."
How have you expressed your support?
How have you expressed your support?
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American Taxpayers footing the bill for the Illegal Occupation, blockade and ethnic cleansing the Palestinian People .while it Simply, can´t feed its poor, but it can fund Israeli wars by giving 6B$$ a year. And I ask why this very special treatment?
As long as billions of US $ flow and the UN veto card is automatically up in the air, nothing will change!
U.S. military aid to Israel exceeds $100 billion
The United States of America is Israel’s big brother and really loves us. Israel does not have and apparently will not have another friend like it. According to a recent Congress report, Israel is the country that has received more cumulative American aid than any other country since the end of World War II.
As long as billions of US $ flow and the UN veto card is automatically up in the air, nothing will change!
U.S. military aid to Israel exceeds $100 billion
The United States of America is Israel’s big brother and really loves us. Israel does not have and apparently will not have another friend like it. According to a recent Congress report, Israel is the country that has received more cumulative American aid than any other country since the end of World War II.
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YOUR President? Enough is enough: what is that meaning? You should be happy that Israel will remain strong and give in to a treaty that is doomed with a country that wants the complete destruction of Israel, and all Jews everywhere.
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The ironic thing about Netanyahu's abandonment of the two-state solution is that it may open the door to the only political solution that matches facts on the ground: a one-state solution. A viable Palestinian state, divided by Israel, demilitarized, and with no solid basis for an economy, was always a bit of a pipe dream. Outside observers and even Israel's president have said as much.
Israel, the Palestinians, and the world must now consider what kind of state will eventually lie between the Jordan and the sea. Will it be a place of tolerance and diversity, where Jews and Arabs live in relative peace as they have in the past? Or will it be an apartheid state, governed by Jews for Jews at the expense of all others and with the eternal hatred of half the world? My hunch is that in the long term, only the former will ultimately prove viable and acceptable to all parties.
Israel, the Palestinians, and the world must now consider what kind of state will eventually lie between the Jordan and the sea. Will it be a place of tolerance and diversity, where Jews and Arabs live in relative peace as they have in the past? Or will it be an apartheid state, governed by Jews for Jews at the expense of all others and with the eternal hatred of half the world? My hunch is that in the long term, only the former will ultimately prove viable and acceptable to all parties.
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"... the only political solution that matches facts on the ground: a one-state solution."
What would be the name of that "state"?
What would be the name of that "state"?
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Israel has definitely the right to exist...and a viable independent state of Palestine also. Remember, they both have Semitic roots.
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By default, there is a "one-state" solution, which Palestinians fail to realize is not their own. Given the enmity between Palestinians and Israelis, their proposed "one-state," like those in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon, having no Jewish populations, will degenerate into civil wars between Sunni, Shia and IS/Daesh. Had Palestinians wanted a state of their own, they could have had it in 1948, 1967 (Remember the "Three No's" of the Khartoum Conference: no negotiation, recognition, or peace with Israel), 2000, 2008 and 2014. After the Oslo Accord creating the Palestinian Authority, intended to negotiate with Israel for a "two-state" solution, Israel made offers in 2000 and 2008, ignored respectively by Yasser Arafat, who initiated the "Second Intifada," including the suicide bombing of buses and cafes, and Mahmoud Abbas, without any counter-offers, or proposals of their own. As acceptance of a "two-state" solution would constitute "de-facto" recognition of Israel's right to exist within "secure and recognized boundaries," per UNSCR 242 and 338, Palestinians prefer the "occupation" continue. Under International Law, the victorious belligerent may retain captured land, until possession is modified by treaty. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uti_possidetis
In the prophetic words of the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." They prefer their children live with the boots of the I.D.F. on their necks!
In the prophetic words of the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." They prefer their children live with the boots of the I.D.F. on their necks!
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This must really irk Obama, especially since six of his own hand picked political operatives went to Israel to assist Herzog in the election. Thank goodness that the people of Israel have recognized that appeasement and capitulation to Islamic terrorists and Palestinian zealots is not the answer. Netanyahu will continue to lead his great nation and he will also continue to tell the truth. That's something that Obama simply is unable to do here at home.
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I don't think this election affects Obama one way or the another. He's the President of the USA and that's that.
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Prime minister elect Netanyahu stated for the entire world to hear that he is not interested in a 2 state solution, that Israel have the right essentially to dictate all aspect of Palestinian life for the foreseeable future. This means essentially that John Kerry has been wasting his time trying to start negotiations. Now Netanyahu spoke to the Republican congress recently and got some 20 standing ovations for his stances on the issues. 1 year from now, watch these republicans as they will say with a straight face how the middle east is in tatters because of Obama policies and watch as the all day all nonsense press allow them to say this unchallenged.
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It is difficult to see a resemblance between the Israel of today and the valiant young country I read and heard about while growing up in New York in the '60s and '70s. Today there is warmongering by the government, dehumanizing political rhetoric about certain minorities, the ongoing "settlement" of land already inhabited by others, all done under claim of biblical certitude. While Israel deserves support as the only true democracy in the region, the character of its leadership and policies today cannot command respect, nor should it command American sacrifice.
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"Today there is warmongering by the government"
Baloney! Israel has never started any wars. They only time they fight is to defend themselves from attacks by the Arabs.
Baloney! Israel has never started any wars. They only time they fight is to defend themselves from attacks by the Arabs.
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"...the only true democracy in the region"...maybe in another universe that I'm not aware of. What a laugh.
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In 1956 Israel attacked Egypt starting the Suez War.
In 1967 Israel invaded its neighbors starting the 1967 War.
In 1978 AND 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon, brutally occupying parts of its Northern neighbour for a quarter century.
In 1967 Israel invaded its neighbors starting the 1967 War.
In 1978 AND 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon, brutally occupying parts of its Northern neighbour for a quarter century.
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If you told me six years ago that an American president would one day openly seek (via his former campaign staff; donors; and possibly state dept. money) to unseat a sitting Israeli Prime Minister by underwriting left-wing and Arab voting blocs I would have said you were nuts. Not anymore. Viva Bibi!
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You make reckless accusations without evidence. Former campaign staffers are not current employees or agents of the president. What "donors", who would seem to be free agents as much as the meddling Sheldon Adelson is. "Possibl[e] state dept. money"? How about possible extraterrestrial money. Got no proof of that either.
Funny how the pro-Netanyahu comments are all clustered down here at three or four recommends. All of them.
Funny how the pro-Netanyahu comments are all clustered down here at three or four recommends. All of them.
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"(via his former campaign staff; donors; and possibly state dept. money)"
Are you going to document all of this?
Are you going to document all of this?
Bless your heart!!
Mr. Netanyahu has already revealed himself for what he truly is, namely a fear- mongering racist. No doubt the type of coalition he forms will reflect this, and serve as justification for building more and more settlements. This does not bode well for the future of Israel.
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"This does not bode well for the future of Israel."
Nor the rest of the Middle East, Europe, or the rest of the world if WWIII breaks out. And the likelihood of that happening is greater today than it was before the election.
Nor the rest of the Middle East, Europe, or the rest of the world if WWIII breaks out. And the likelihood of that happening is greater today than it was before the election.
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Israelis showed that in contrast to everyone else they take the Iranian threat seriously, and they should. Herzog's biggest mistake in my opinion was that Herzog's policy on Iran was to trust Obama on Iran . Israelis realized that we just cannot place our lives in the hands of an American president who supports the Muslim Brotherhood and appeases Iran.
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Read Friedman's article, Mladen. You know, by going along with Israel's wants for so long, we have destroyed the very agents that would have kept constraints on the Iranians. Bad guys to be sure, but there are no angels in Central and West Asia, including Israel. Israel has 8.3 million people; my home state has approximately 7 million. I'm tired of sending zillions of dollars in military aid to Israel, when my home state could use a goodly portion of that money for new infrastructure, better schools and pay for teachers, and economic investment in general. You want to elect a conservative leader? Over here in the States, conservatism is all about standing on your own two feet, making your own way, and not depending on others to provide welfare. Maybe it is about time for Israel, if they like a conservative who interferes in our politics, to do the same.
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Anyone who has served as a juror in a criminal trial in my USA has heard the judge's admonition (my substitute wording) that, if you find that a witness told one untruth, you should suspect the rest of her/his testimony. Mladen states above that Obama "supports the Muslim Brotherhood." I therefore discount everything Mladen has to say.
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And yet you'll happily continue taking US taxpayers' money. Why?
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Israel does not want peace. It doesn't get simpler than that. They do not belong in the modern world, and the UN should be utilized to rein them in to reality. The United States should no longer aid and abet this country in the way a family might feels compelled to aid drug user among them. It is time to call it a day. Iran is acting more responsibly. Two state, one state, no state. This is no longer 1984 or 1968 or that matter. We no longer have to read between the lines. Netanyahu's racist remarks and his flat out refusal of a two state solution is enough for us to take a big, huge step backwards. Let's not get confused, though, there are governments and there are people. They are not always one and the same, but the people spoke here, and the message was not good.
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Why don't you consider the real reason Netanyahu rejects the two state solution? It has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with the ideology that is the basic force behind Palestinian motives.
Article 7 of the Hamas Charter reads:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.
Article 7 is taken from Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177 and quotes the Prophet Muhammad:
http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volum...
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
Article 7 of the Hamas Charter reads:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.
Article 7 is taken from Hadith Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177 and quotes the Prophet Muhammad:
http://www.hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/85/3715-sahih-bukhari-volum...
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
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What on Earth, then, must you think of the Gazans who voted in a genocidal chiliastic death cult to lead them?
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very nicely said
"Such a result would not have been possible had the international community held Israel to account for its systematic violations of international law”
That says it all.
That says it all.
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This makes it abundantly clear that the interests of the United States are not served by continued aid to Israel. It is time for it to end. It is past time for it to end. Contact the President and your Representative and Senators and let them know.
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Are we still going to send 3.5 billion dollars (3,500,000,000) to Bibi every year of hard earned US tax dollars? Most Americans, 98% who aren't Jews, are totally ignorant of the fact that this hard earned money isn't being used to build new schools in America but new settlements in the West Bank up to the Jordan River and maybe beyond!
AIPAC, the NYTimes and Adelman are in Bibi's pocket as well as the entire US Congress. The USA even "gave" Israel its first atom bomb thanks to the disappearance of enriched plutonium from USAEC's Appolo Nuclear Materials Repository back in the early 60's. Their Dimona facility in the Negev keeps cranking out more war nuclear warheads. In case of war with Tehran, Dimona will be the highest priority target of the Iranian missile forces. One direct hit and most of Israel could be polluted with radiation, depending where the wind blows.
AIPAC, the NYTimes and Adelman are in Bibi's pocket as well as the entire US Congress. The USA even "gave" Israel its first atom bomb thanks to the disappearance of enriched plutonium from USAEC's Appolo Nuclear Materials Repository back in the early 60's. Their Dimona facility in the Negev keeps cranking out more war nuclear warheads. In case of war with Tehran, Dimona will be the highest priority target of the Iranian missile forces. One direct hit and most of Israel could be polluted with radiation, depending where the wind blows.
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Hey, Juris, you write: "Their Dimona facility in the Negev keeps cranking out more war nuclear warheads.."
Do you have insider intelligence that the rest of us don't? If this is true, why haven't the major newspapers been reporting this?
Do you have insider intelligence that the rest of us don't? If this is true, why haven't the major newspapers been reporting this?
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Netanyahu's reelection brings great sadness to my heart. There is no honor in this man & even less compassion. Every bad thing the other commenters are saying about him is true. But at least now we know where the Israeli people stand & that's just about what I thought all along. Israel doesn't want peace with the Palestinians, Israel wants to exterminate them.
If the US quit supporting the terrorist government of Israel, Israel couldn't continue to be the bully of the Middle East. Yes I know, millions of Jewish people were killed in the Holocaust & I'm very very sorry & I wish had been alive to help. The Holocaust must be remembered 10 thousand years from now. But having said all that, the Holocaust doesn't give Israel the right to mistreat the Palestinians for almost 70 years. It's plain to see that Bibi is a mean mistreater! He belongs back in the 20th century!
At times I think Israel keeps a few Palestinian people around just to keep the billions flowing in from the US. If all the Palestinians were removed or murdered who'd give Israel billions in support? Don't get me wrong, I love Jewish people, my daughter's boyfriend of several years is Jewish & he's a great guy! But murdering thugs like Netanyahu I've got no use for & shame on you people of Israel who put him back in office to spread more years of misery & death.
Will the world ever see better times again? Not with Netanyahu in office in Israel & not with Republicans running Congress in the US...Do better!
If the US quit supporting the terrorist government of Israel, Israel couldn't continue to be the bully of the Middle East. Yes I know, millions of Jewish people were killed in the Holocaust & I'm very very sorry & I wish had been alive to help. The Holocaust must be remembered 10 thousand years from now. But having said all that, the Holocaust doesn't give Israel the right to mistreat the Palestinians for almost 70 years. It's plain to see that Bibi is a mean mistreater! He belongs back in the 20th century!
At times I think Israel keeps a few Palestinian people around just to keep the billions flowing in from the US. If all the Palestinians were removed or murdered who'd give Israel billions in support? Don't get me wrong, I love Jewish people, my daughter's boyfriend of several years is Jewish & he's a great guy! But murdering thugs like Netanyahu I've got no use for & shame on you people of Israel who put him back in office to spread more years of misery & death.
Will the world ever see better times again? Not with Netanyahu in office in Israel & not with Republicans running Congress in the US...Do better!
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Netanyahu's paranoid, racist, bullying behavior is reflected in the policies he pursues and the campaign style he embraces. He clearly does not want peace; he wants a triumphal victory and he denigrates all who don't see the world his way. It is time for the U.S. to recognize that his behavior is hateful and his twisted dependence upon our sympathy the Jewish people as victims is wearing thin. As an observer I have no sympathy for those who seek to eliminate the state of Israel, and precious little sympathy for the theocratic folly we see playing out in Israel and the rest of the middle east. A plague on all your houses.
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Let it be known that the Israelis as a nation favor an immoral, nihilist vision of apartheid for their future. They are an indecent people.
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Only the 23% who voted for Likud.
The 77% who voted otherwise are being kidnapped and held for ransom by Netanyahu.
In what rational world does 23% of the voting population call the tune?
The 77% who voted otherwise are being kidnapped and held for ransom by Netanyahu.
In what rational world does 23% of the voting population call the tune?
Common sense prevails in Israel - along with an innate and fully justified mission of trying to avoid annihilation from surrounding hostile and hate filled people.
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Congress: if you want to be fiscally responsible, one step would be to end financial aid to Israel.
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Apparently our elected officials place more importance on Israeli citizens than it does to its own. No senator/congressman will stand up to Israel as long as they want to be re-elected.
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Have you told that to your members of Congress?
Maybe they can start by defunding One Voice.
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Well, it looks like there goes the chance that there will be a peace agreement with the Palestinians in my lifetime.
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It is clearly time for the United States to start dealing with Israel with greater objectivity and less unwarranted favoritism.
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It's sad that Israel has re-elected a leader who makes racist remarks against legitimate voters in his country, considering how much the Jewish people have suffered because of intolerance.
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Arab isn't a race so how are the remarks racist?
Congratulations Israel. You have now isolated yourself from the U.S. and the rest of the world.
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We would rather be isolated from the rest of the world than incinerated in an Iranian nuclear attack by a regime for which the doctrine of mutually assured destruction MAD does not work any more.
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I think they are friendly with Russia. So they do have a friend.
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Nope...Israel gained respect from the rest of the world...including Americans like me
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If Abu Mazen had made similarly racist remarks about Jews and made a statement denounced the existence of Israel, 500 American politicians would have already called press conferences denouncing him as an anti-semite and obstacle to peace. In less than 24 hours, an AIPAC sponsored resolution calling for Mazen's resignation and "affirming our strong support of Israel" would have sailed through the United States senate with 100 votes.
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Lucian: He's made far worse comments about Jews. They are rarely reported (most recently in connection with Jews visiting the Temple Mount) because it cuts against his false portrayal in the media as some sort of centrist liberal whose most fervent wish is for peace. Which is why, when they are, they are immediately ignored.
Your questions shows the success of the strategy.
Your questions shows the success of the strategy.
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Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank must be gritting their teeth and planning. The official policy of the PM is that the Palestinians will not be granted statehood. Annexation of land will surely continue. What, then, to lose?
If we reach a point where the Palestinians can inflict enough pain on Israel that a massive retaliation takes place, we may actually see the creation of a no-State zone, a landscape not worth living in at all.
Astounding the corners humans can paint themselves into.
If we reach a point where the Palestinians can inflict enough pain on Israel that a massive retaliation takes place, we may actually see the creation of a no-State zone, a landscape not worth living in at all.
Astounding the corners humans can paint themselves into.
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Since our support of Israel has been a part of a broader foreign policy of seeking a solution for the Palestinian people, Netanyahu's election should spell the end of our blanket support and aid for Israel. Netanyahu insulted the the citizens of the United States and the president when he came to speak before the Congress and therefore does not deserve blanket support from the US. Let Sheldon Adelson fund the Israeli armed forces instead of funding American elections.
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Yes. Obvious.
But the Israel Lobby has the economic clout..........our leaders lose their seat if they oppose Israel.
Sad fact. Israel is in control through the Lobby.
But the Israel Lobby has the economic clout..........our leaders lose their seat if they oppose Israel.
Sad fact. Israel is in control through the Lobby.
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Netanyahu was invited to speak by the leaders of Congress. Doing so was not an insult but an honor.
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US support of Israel is due to strategic geopolitical and other benefits to the US and its citizens, and it always has been. No where are the Palestinians mentioned as a condition of that support.
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They voted for a head of state with a doomed vision for their country, utterly nihilistic. The Palestinians are all but justified in anything they do. Israeli atavism is their future if they don't act.
As for Israel's Arabs, they must ask what it means, that they are ruled by a clearly racist governing majority.
As for Israel's Arabs, they must ask what it means, that they are ruled by a clearly racist governing majority.
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The biggest existential threat to Israel's existence is Netanyahu himself. He is not alone, the mass of Israeli's seem to have a suicidal death wish , and a series of self fulfilling prophecies that will destroy themselves in their quest to destroy the Palestinians.
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Of course Israel is thoroughly right-wing; who is surprised? And of course, the US is very close behind -- just look back at November. Look at what we elected. Chances are, if you're reading this, you're a member of a right-wing locked up society -- like it or not.
Of course, right wing societies do not last, cannot last, because they fail to adapt and they fail to offer all the people the life they should have. However, expect a great deal of ugliness until this failure comes home to roost. Chances are you will be no more than a corporate molecule by then.
Israel right-wing? This is what you, the American, voted for in November -- Republican-Israeli solidarity. Get used to it.
Of course, right wing societies do not last, cannot last, because they fail to adapt and they fail to offer all the people the life they should have. However, expect a great deal of ugliness until this failure comes home to roost. Chances are you will be no more than a corporate molecule by then.
Israel right-wing? This is what you, the American, voted for in November -- Republican-Israeli solidarity. Get used to it.
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it is truly sad and dispiriting to see what israel has become.
the international community has not shown a lot of talent or unity in dealing with the conflicts in ukraine, syria, somalia, chad or nigeria, etc. ... but the israeli nation needs to feel the appropriate international contempt and justfiable sanctions for their ongoing and state sanctioned criminal conduct in the settlements, prisons and military police actions.
it's also way past time for the united states to decline to use its security council veto to shield the perpetrators. if israel wants to stand alone and go its own way. the guilt is on our hands as well for coddling these miscreants.
the international community has not shown a lot of talent or unity in dealing with the conflicts in ukraine, syria, somalia, chad or nigeria, etc. ... but the israeli nation needs to feel the appropriate international contempt and justfiable sanctions for their ongoing and state sanctioned criminal conduct in the settlements, prisons and military police actions.
it's also way past time for the united states to decline to use its security council veto to shield the perpetrators. if israel wants to stand alone and go its own way. the guilt is on our hands as well for coddling these miscreants.
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If Obama want Netanyahu to grow up and act responsibly he should learn from the practice of many parents of spoiled adult children: stop sending money!
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"...stop sending money!"
Congress appropriates money[1], not the President, so you should tell that to your members of Congress.
[1] For example:
S.2673 - United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2014
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2673
"Extends through September 30, 2024, the grant program to support U.S.-Israel research, development, and commercialization of renewable energy or energy efficiency."
Congress appropriates money[1], not the President, so you should tell that to your members of Congress.
[1] For example:
S.2673 - United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2014
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2673
"Extends through September 30, 2024, the grant program to support U.S.-Israel research, development, and commercialization of renewable energy or energy efficiency."
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[1] For example:
S.2673 - United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2014
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2673
"Extends through September 30, 2024, the grant program to support U.S.-Israel research, development, and commercialization of renewable energy or energy efficiency."
Nearly did a spit take after reading that one, what a hoot. This money goes for illegal building of settlements;universal healthcare for all Israeli citizens but certainly not R&D on energy products. You all don't believe that line do you?
S.2673 - United States-Israel Strategic Partnership Act of 2014
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2673
"Extends through September 30, 2024, the grant program to support U.S.-Israel research, development, and commercialization of renewable energy or energy efficiency."
Nearly did a spit take after reading that one, what a hoot. This money goes for illegal building of settlements;universal healthcare for all Israeli citizens but certainly not R&D on energy products. You all don't believe that line do you?
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@Laura Hunt: "This money goes for illegal building of settlements;universal healthcare for all Israeli citizens but certainly not R&D on energy products."
Please cite a credible source that says where the money really goes under this grant program:
42 U.S. Code § 17337 - United States-Israel energy cooperation
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/17337
Please cite a credible source that says where the money really goes under this grant program:
42 U.S. Code § 17337 - United States-Israel energy cooperation
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/17337
Netanyahu obviously played on the fears of his citizens, and perhaps some feelings of racism. It may well be that the majority of Israelis have never really wanted peace or a two-state solution. With the collapse of Syria and the rise of ISIS and other such fanatical groups, and the perennial "bogyman" of Iran their fear is somewhat understandable. But this will prove to be the wrong man, in the wrong place, at the wrong time. I can see no good coming from this election. Voting out of fear and hatred never turned out well. There are plenty of historical precedents.
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I really do not understand what the right wing and Netanyahu is trying to achieve? They want Israel to be a Jewish state and reject two state solutions at the same time. By 2025, Arab will constitute more than 50% of the population in Israel and Palestine combined. Keep going down this way, Israel may lose both of its goals.
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No the 'one state solution' will be the solution to Israeli problems not a hindrance as so many naively assume. When one describes the peaceful non violent Palestinians who have co-operated with your apartheid system 'Arab terrorists' whose voting is seen as the same threat that blacks voting in the South in the early 1960's USA was then it is clear that 'fear of Jihad' will now trump any and all principles of humanity, of law and of reason.
Our own disgraceful use of rendition, torture, holding innocents in brutal circumstances for over a decade in fear of their hatred of us cause by our inhumanity to them, then a USA with a AIPAC bought opposition and the present Party itself taking exception to their elected leader's (Obama) attempts at peace making then it is clear that with either Jeb Bush OR Hillary Clinton in office the apartheid and permanent terror war against Islam supporters have won.
With Europe going rightwing under fear of ISIS; 'the global Caliphate', 'genocide through non white immigration' as well as the inter racial disputes of the north western 'Ubermensch' vs the 'lazy Southerners' (Greeks Italians; Spaniards) and the inferior 'slav filth' as the Russians are called today in Sweden. It is clear we are ginning up for a 'war of the Civilizations' which will be racial war on a planetry scale as the West 'gorging itself fat on the wealth of non white native resources' has determined to stake it's claim to recolonize the planet for it's Elite's uses.
Our own disgraceful use of rendition, torture, holding innocents in brutal circumstances for over a decade in fear of their hatred of us cause by our inhumanity to them, then a USA with a AIPAC bought opposition and the present Party itself taking exception to their elected leader's (Obama) attempts at peace making then it is clear that with either Jeb Bush OR Hillary Clinton in office the apartheid and permanent terror war against Islam supporters have won.
With Europe going rightwing under fear of ISIS; 'the global Caliphate', 'genocide through non white immigration' as well as the inter racial disputes of the north western 'Ubermensch' vs the 'lazy Southerners' (Greeks Italians; Spaniards) and the inferior 'slav filth' as the Russians are called today in Sweden. It is clear we are ginning up for a 'war of the Civilizations' which will be racial war on a planetry scale as the West 'gorging itself fat on the wealth of non white native resources' has determined to stake it's claim to recolonize the planet for it's Elite's uses.
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I had always supported Israel -
financially and otherwise -
No more -
I want US to cut off all US aid -
I will not support a racist regime.
financially and otherwise -
No more -
I want US to cut off all US aid -
I will not support a racist regime.
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Good.
Thank you.
People like you are important! E.G. people who have always supported Israel but cannot any longer. You are a very, very important group. Please keep talking!
Thank you.
People like you are important! E.G. people who have always supported Israel but cannot any longer. You are a very, very important group. Please keep talking!
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You'll believe anything, so long as it fits your prejudices. In what way does his comment even begin to sound plausible?
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Given Bibi's comments yesterday, I'm guessing that none of the Arabs who won will be invited into this coalition...
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Of course not, because Arabs are, according to Netanyahu, a force for evil, devils incarnate, just like all Semites. Wait, oops.
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What an amazing country Israel is.
With ISIS, Hezbollah and Hamas on the doorstep, a host of serious domestic issues facing them and President Obama about to present the Ayatollah with the keys to Nuclear Weapons Heaven, they still find time to hold a free, highly contested, open-to-everybody election.
Way to go Israel!
With ISIS, Hezbollah and Hamas on the doorstep, a host of serious domestic issues facing them and President Obama about to present the Ayatollah with the keys to Nuclear Weapons Heaven, they still find time to hold a free, highly contested, open-to-everybody election.
Way to go Israel!
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nobody's on their doorstep.
and south africa had elections also.
and south africa had elections also.
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President Obama paved the way for Netanyahu's victory because his Iran overtures threatened Israel's existence. If Obama had taken a harder line with Iran, Isaac Herzog could have appealed to Israel's better angels and won.
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Nonsense.
Netanyahu's hard line on Iran is what threatens Israel.
It's a very difficult situation but imagine the day after an Israeli or American strike on Iran.
Decades of proxy war.
Iran's pursuit of a nuke "legitimized" because they need a deterrent. "Hey, we were attacked!"
Complete inability to access Iran, whether to monitor their weapons systems or try to bring them more in line with international community.
And any moderate voices within Iran will be crushed as crazy traitors after we attack them.
We'll have another N. Korea.
Netanyahu's hard line on Iran is what threatens Israel.
It's a very difficult situation but imagine the day after an Israeli or American strike on Iran.
Decades of proxy war.
Iran's pursuit of a nuke "legitimized" because they need a deterrent. "Hey, we were attacked!"
Complete inability to access Iran, whether to monitor their weapons systems or try to bring them more in line with international community.
And any moderate voices within Iran will be crushed as crazy traitors after we attack them.
We'll have another N. Korea.
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Israelis also appreciated Netanyahu showing strength by defying Obama and addressing Congress.
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Since when should hypothetical foreign election outcomes dictate American foreign policy? Aside from the fact that you could very well be wrong, the last thing on Obama's mind when determining the best course of action with Iran should be future Israeli elections.
I get that you want to blame Obama for yet another thing that you don't like, but your thought process is misguided. There is a much simpler story. It just doesn't confirm your biases.
If you truly want to place blame for the outcome of Israeli elections on an American factor, place blame on John Boehner, who took it upon himself to allow Netanyahu to take highly-publicized pot shots at President Obama from the Capitol and look like the tough leader Israel needs in the weeks leading up to the election.
Boehner's direct actions had a far bigger role to play than your indirect connections.
I get that you want to blame Obama for yet another thing that you don't like, but your thought process is misguided. There is a much simpler story. It just doesn't confirm your biases.
If you truly want to place blame for the outcome of Israeli elections on an American factor, place blame on John Boehner, who took it upon himself to allow Netanyahu to take highly-publicized pot shots at President Obama from the Capitol and look like the tough leader Israel needs in the weeks leading up to the election.
Boehner's direct actions had a far bigger role to play than your indirect connections.
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The United States should not keep pouring money into Israel now that Netanyahu has openly discarded the two state solution. Denying statehood to Palestinians is against American policy and international agreements.
This was a Sheldon Adelson win: he bought two newspapers in Israel for propaganda and gave right wing Republicans $100 million in the last two campaigns.
My support for Israel has never been so low: I am very tired of the aggressive policy of settlements, of bombs and attacks that kill Palestinians and Palestinian children while destroying homes, and I am especially angry that this man stood in the U.S. Capitol building and treated the American president with such disrespect after decades of strong American support including from Pres. Obama.
These oligarchs and warmongers have made an alliance. Let them fight their own wars in person, and from now on, leave the United States out of it.
This was a Sheldon Adelson win: he bought two newspapers in Israel for propaganda and gave right wing Republicans $100 million in the last two campaigns.
My support for Israel has never been so low: I am very tired of the aggressive policy of settlements, of bombs and attacks that kill Palestinians and Palestinian children while destroying homes, and I am especially angry that this man stood in the U.S. Capitol building and treated the American president with such disrespect after decades of strong American support including from Pres. Obama.
These oligarchs and warmongers have made an alliance. Let them fight their own wars in person, and from now on, leave the United States out of it.
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SMB, Funny, but while you write, " I am very tired of the aggressive policy of settlements, of bombs and attacks that kill Palestinians and Palestinian children while destroying homes..", you write not one single word about the tens of *thousands* of rockets the "peaceful" Palestinian Arabs have fired indiscriminately on "warmongering" Israeli civilians, nor of the Palestinian Arabs' minor, forgivable little "penchant" for hiding weapons, rockets, and munitions in homes, mosques, and UN school buildings.
Why the omissions? Propaganda purposes?
Why the omissions? Propaganda purposes?
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The frantic manner in which Netanyahu run around spewing racism and further inflaming the already out of touch far right Orthodox groups is contemptible. Now the U.S. would finance the dangerous policies of these far right groups, continuing to expose itself to the wrath of terrorist groups opposed to this financing. Israel doesn't just cost the U.S. the 3 billion it gets in security aid every year, the real cost of Israel to the U.S. nobody is talking about is the hundreds of billions of dollars the U.S. is forced to spend to subdue the terrorist backlash stemming out of supporting far right Israeli policies. But for how long? For how long?
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There is some comfort to be found in these disappointing results:
1) The charade of the peace process will not resume, and if it does, nobody will be fooled.
2) The Palestinians have known all along what Netanyahu and his cartel are all about. So no surprise, and no false hopes a new regime could have given rise to. Just keep on the struggle, particularly the diplomatic work for recognition at the international level.
3) Like with South Africa, Israel's isolation will increase. It is a pariah state and it will eventually be brought to justice.
4) As Israel's outrageous racist policies and aggressive stands continue more people in the US, particularly Jews, will open their eyes and will demand that conditions be attached to the "special US-Israel relationship".
1) The charade of the peace process will not resume, and if it does, nobody will be fooled.
2) The Palestinians have known all along what Netanyahu and his cartel are all about. So no surprise, and no false hopes a new regime could have given rise to. Just keep on the struggle, particularly the diplomatic work for recognition at the international level.
3) Like with South Africa, Israel's isolation will increase. It is a pariah state and it will eventually be brought to justice.
4) As Israel's outrageous racist policies and aggressive stands continue more people in the US, particularly Jews, will open their eyes and will demand that conditions be attached to the "special US-Israel relationship".
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I hope you are right.
I agree that it should now be clear to the world what Bibi/Israel is......They do not want a two state solution. They want to keep taking land. They are a criminal state now, and the US cannot control them.
Something must be done. Now. Either boycott or UN, or both. Now. Before he takes more land and slaughters more innocents.
I agree that it should now be clear to the world what Bibi/Israel is......They do not want a two state solution. They want to keep taking land. They are a criminal state now, and the US cannot control them.
Something must be done. Now. Either boycott or UN, or both. Now. Before he takes more land and slaughters more innocents.
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In a unique display of democracy in action in a region otherwise bereft of it, the Israeli Arabs united into a single political party and are poised to become the third largest voting bloc in the 20th Knesset. This fact alone should put the lie to the "apartheid" label - should, but won't, since those who fling it around do so without any regard to definitional or factual constraints.
Will Hamas and the PA finally allow its Arab citizens to exercise the same right to vote that Israel so conspicuously grants its own? It is now 5 years and counting.
Without such political legitimacy, how can the Palestinian Arab side negotiate let alone implement any peace with Israel?
The Israelis have gotten their political act together, for better or worse depending on your political outlook. It is long past time that the Palestinian Arabs are allowed by their "leaders" to do the same.
If the situation is to improve, the West also needs to shelve its condescending default position - that everything is Israel and Netanyahu's fault - and begin to demand that the Palestinian Arab engage in the hard task of building democratic, transparent civil institutions as a predicate to any state and as an indication that they seek peace rather than israel's eradication.
Will Hamas and the PA finally allow its Arab citizens to exercise the same right to vote that Israel so conspicuously grants its own? It is now 5 years and counting.
Without such political legitimacy, how can the Palestinian Arab side negotiate let alone implement any peace with Israel?
The Israelis have gotten their political act together, for better or worse depending on your political outlook. It is long past time that the Palestinian Arabs are allowed by their "leaders" to do the same.
If the situation is to improve, the West also needs to shelve its condescending default position - that everything is Israel and Netanyahu's fault - and begin to demand that the Palestinian Arab engage in the hard task of building democratic, transparent civil institutions as a predicate to any state and as an indication that they seek peace rather than israel's eradication.
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Sad day for Israel and for Israel's future in my opinion. Netanyahu is one of the most contentious and disliked Israeli leaders in decades, both in Israel and abroad. As the story stated, he was (and is) notoriously disliked by both Republican and Democrat administrations.
More troubling, his policies - as he himself has now stated - don't include peace with the Palestinians on any terms they could conceive of. His hawkish policies won't achieve peaceful co-existence with Palestinians in the end, which is what the majority on both sides want.
More troubling, his policies - as he himself has now stated - don't include peace with the Palestinians on any terms they could conceive of. His hawkish policies won't achieve peaceful co-existence with Palestinians in the end, which is what the majority on both sides want.
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@Michael
' ... peaceful co-existence ..... is what both sides want...' ?
That is definitely NOT how I read the message sent by the majority of Israel's citizens in yesterday's elections.
' ... peaceful co-existence ..... is what both sides want...' ?
That is definitely NOT how I read the message sent by the majority of Israel's citizens in yesterday's elections.
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With the Israeli government officially against the two state solution the Palestinians must go to the UN. If the UN will not recognize their state, then they truly have no reason to negotiate, and they mist save themselves.
Israel, conversely, is effectively a one state vision, and the Israelis need to explain their plan for the occupation and their burgeoning Arab majority.
Israel, conversely, is effectively a one state vision, and the Israelis need to explain their plan for the occupation and their burgeoning Arab majority.
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There will never be a 2 state solution with peace because the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bankare are merely cannon fodder in an Islamic Jihad that has
The elimination of Israel and its Jews as its final solution.
The elimination of Israel and its Jews as its final solution.
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Well, the good news is that we can all abandon all pretense on both sides--Israel, that it supports a two-state solution and we, that we support a country which supports a two-state solution. Too bad that it won't change our foreign policy. The bare naked cynicism of politics has never been more stark.
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Netanyahu is the face of Israel and also gets more attention and media coverage than any Jew in the world. So his anti-Palestinian state, pro-settlement rhetoric and racist campaign demagoguery will be associated with Jews worldwide; which is tragic because most Jews abhor racism of any kind and favor a two-state solution. Netanyahu's statements will increase anti-semitism around the world. Bibi Netanyahu = bad for the Jews.
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I am pleased to see that many American Jews, who used to support Israel with unswerving loyalty, are now recognizing that there are elements in Israeli politics that are hostile to the long term interests of that nation. The longer the area festers without a long term peace solution involving two states, the worse the infection gets.
Its time for the US government to take charge, and assertively demonstrate that it, and not Israel, is the "big brother" in the relationship between the two nations. It was up to the Israeli voters to implement a regime change. They failed to do so. Its time for some tough love.
Its time for the US government to take charge, and assertively demonstrate that it, and not Israel, is the "big brother" in the relationship between the two nations. It was up to the Israeli voters to implement a regime change. They failed to do so. Its time for some tough love.
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"Its time for the US government to take charge, and assertively demonstrate that it, and not Israel, is the "big brother" in the relationship between the two nations. It was up to the Israeli voters to implement a regime change. They failed to do so. Its time for some tough love."
Excuse me, but Israel is the only real democracy in the Middle East. They had a fair election, and Netanyahu was elected by the citizens of Israel. Obama may not like Netanyahu, but it is outrageous to suggest the U.S. should "take charge" and override the choice made by the Israelis. How would you like it if some other country didn't like the election of Obama and decided to "take charge" and show "tough love"?
Excuse me, but Israel is the only real democracy in the Middle East. They had a fair election, and Netanyahu was elected by the citizens of Israel. Obama may not like Netanyahu, but it is outrageous to suggest the U.S. should "take charge" and override the choice made by the Israelis. How would you like it if some other country didn't like the election of Obama and decided to "take charge" and show "tough love"?
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By "taking charge", I am not suggesting a direct replacement. Rather, I am talking about conditioning Israel's "entitlement' of billions of dollars of aid per year, and indirect support, on some good faith negotiation of a two state solution. If we are going to be the policeman of the region, we need to make sure the boys in the neighborhood behave in a neighborly manner. Which includes not moving into your neighbor's living room because your house is full.
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Mr. NetanyahuNay have won a victory for himself, but the losers are the Israel people. His comments about the peace process and settlements will set back the countries relations with the rest of the world.
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No more unconditional support for Israel.
No more billions in US aid for Israel.
No more billions in US aid for Israel.
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How about billions in US taxpayer aid to the Palestinian Arabs? Have they spent it well? Should it continue?
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Has Israel ever done anything for America or is it only a one way street ?
A great victory for religious fundamentalism, holy war and all the historical psychopathy that has accompanied religious nationalism throughout man's largely medieval history.
So much for compromise, diplomacy, moderation and working nicely with 'others'.
So much for compromise, diplomacy, moderation and working nicely with 'others'.
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The deciding issue according to the exit polls was security, which was and is a secular concern, and nothing to do with the above. When the people of Montclair threaten to wipe you off the face of the earth, perhaps you can way in with a balanced view.
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I love your stuff, keep it up, But it is all still reality we have to live with.
Scorched earth policies to win the election--offending Israeli Arabs, disrespecting American leadership--now Netanyahu attempts damage control. Can a man who creates such division build a coalition that attracts anyone but hard-line hawks? Israel re-elected a leader that is very skilled at building walls, at making threats, and offending allies and potential allies. How can they expect this man to negotiate anything that leads stability and security? Expect more awkward expansion, more division, more walls, more of the same--you get what you pay for.
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This should be a signal to the United States to disengage with Israel, as Israel has disengaged from the peace process and made a mockery of U.S.efforts. The people of Israel have spoken and their choice is to circle the wagons and wage war unending. Let Israel fight the fight that Netanyahu wants; take on Iran and the entire Muslim world. Without support from the U.S. Enough of our soldiers have died in the Middle East on Israel's behalf. For much, much, too long, our foreign policy has been directed, in large part, by our ties to Israel. Netanyahu even had the temerity to address our congress, striding like a colossus in the chamber. Well let the colossus lead his OWN country, not ours. It is past time American citizens quit being patsies in this game. The tail doesn't wag the dog.
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I am saddened and feel much the same way, stunned really, as when Bush was reelected. Not only has Israel strengthened the anti-Israel sentiment around the world, it has given strength to a growing anti-semitism around the world, and strengthened the power of the Arab and Iranian world to destroy it. No one is going to bother about the history that Netanyahu and his supporters base their policies on. He stated his position, no peace. I supported Israel but no more. Now, though, I hope the focus will be on preventing anti-Israel sentiment to be the excuse for anti-semitism. So very very sad. It's over.
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So the new Israeli government considers the two state solution dead. Fine, but two separate states has been the goal of US foreign policy, and our unqualified support of Israel in the UN, for which we have stood alone, has always been justified on the grounds that its up to the parties involved to directly negotiate a peace deal without outside interference. Given the might makes right ethos of the Likud, this was clearly a fiction, but as long as the concept of a deal was not explicitly rejected by Israel, it was a convenient excuse for the US not to back our European allies in their detestation of Likud policy.
Now a peace deal has been explicitly rejected by the Likud - unless "peace" has taken on the meaning of perpetual occupation of the West Bank or ethnic cleansing of its Palestinian inhabitants. No doubt the settlers are wonderful people, even if their enterprise has "land theft" written all over it. Why, though, at this juncture should US policy still remain committed to several hundred thousand settlers so that we join Israel as another pariah nation in the court of world opinion?
Now a peace deal has been explicitly rejected by the Likud - unless "peace" has taken on the meaning of perpetual occupation of the West Bank or ethnic cleansing of its Palestinian inhabitants. No doubt the settlers are wonderful people, even if their enterprise has "land theft" written all over it. Why, though, at this juncture should US policy still remain committed to several hundred thousand settlers so that we join Israel as another pariah nation in the court of world opinion?
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The right wing has successfully embraced a playbook based on fear.
Not just in Israel.
Not just in Israel.
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"The right wing has successfully embraced a playbook based on fear."
There is a valid reason why there is fear in a tiny country surrounded by enemies who have vowed to destroy them. This is not paranoia: Israel has real enemies, and they really want to kill Jews and destroy Israel.
Do you criticize the Kurds for fearing ISIS?
There is a valid reason why there is fear in a tiny country surrounded by enemies who have vowed to destroy them. This is not paranoia: Israel has real enemies, and they really want to kill Jews and destroy Israel.
Do you criticize the Kurds for fearing ISIS?
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And, we are heading in the same direction -- fast-- in the United States. Beware the Republican congress, fear mongering, control over individual behavior and pandering support of religious fundamentalism....we are in for it.
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Our right wing politicians do this as well.... and succeed at a frightening pace...what can we learn from this so we can stop the madness
Is anyone asking why the pre-election polling was so far off?
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There was a statement in the previous NYT article that the previous tallies had yet to hear from absentee votes from soldiers. It seems likely they would be more inclined to support Bibi, and so leaving them out probably skeweed the sample.
"Is anyone asking why the pre-election polling was so far off?"
Simple: The left-wing media, including the NYT, desperately wanted Netanyahu to lose.
Simple: The left-wing media, including the NYT, desperately wanted Netanyahu to lose.
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any civilized, non-racist person who believes in peace wanted netanyahu to lose.
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In America, we have a right-wing and military industrial complex that wants us to believe "total security" is possible, if only we buy more guns, bomb more brown people, and give them whatever money they want.
In Israel, it's even worse. The right-wing militarists have convinced a large segment of the population not only that "total security" is possible, but that it is a *prerequisite* for peace! Think about how absurd that is - security before peace? Peace is what creates security!
Yet we're told again and again that EVERY Palestinian - not merely political leadership, but every single man, woman, and child, must not only refrain from violence, but be utterly docile and actually *supportive* of Israel, before Israel can even so much as contemplate negotiations. The bar didn't start that high, but every time there's been even a chance of it being cleared, Netanyahu and his ilk have raised it.
Finally, last week, the mask came off, and we saw the truth - they don't want peace. They don't want peace and they don't want security, because the lifeblood of their power and their wealth is FEAR. It is appalling to me that a state which was founded by pragmatic, secularist liberals has come to be ruled by short-sighted fear-mongering fundamentalists. A state so ruled cannot survive for long - it will either be torn apart from the inside, or crushed by the weight of history as it is forced to do more and more obscene and violent things to sustain itself.
In Israel, it's even worse. The right-wing militarists have convinced a large segment of the population not only that "total security" is possible, but that it is a *prerequisite* for peace! Think about how absurd that is - security before peace? Peace is what creates security!
Yet we're told again and again that EVERY Palestinian - not merely political leadership, but every single man, woman, and child, must not only refrain from violence, but be utterly docile and actually *supportive* of Israel, before Israel can even so much as contemplate negotiations. The bar didn't start that high, but every time there's been even a chance of it being cleared, Netanyahu and his ilk have raised it.
Finally, last week, the mask came off, and we saw the truth - they don't want peace. They don't want peace and they don't want security, because the lifeblood of their power and their wealth is FEAR. It is appalling to me that a state which was founded by pragmatic, secularist liberals has come to be ruled by short-sighted fear-mongering fundamentalists. A state so ruled cannot survive for long - it will either be torn apart from the inside, or crushed by the weight of history as it is forced to do more and more obscene and violent things to sustain itself.
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Gee Dave for a second there I thought we were talking about the US post 911. Maybe the US and Israel deserve each other: The only thing we have to fear is not being afraid.
Words to die by.
Words to die by.
To truly work for peace and justice in the Middle East, send an email to your senators and congressman exhorting them to withdraw the $3 billion/year of US support that goes to this leader who boldly admits that he is no longer (and probably never was) interested in peace.
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I'm urging my representatives to cut off all aid to the Palestinians until they recognize Israel's right to exist and nullify their covenant to destroy Israel.
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I'm doing the same but against Israel.
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israel has no right to exist until Palestine does.
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Netanyahu should issue instructions to immediately arrest Obama's lackeys that went to Israel and, using our tax dollars, violated Israeli law by interfering with their election process.
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Oh please, No tax payer dollars were used.
American money flowed in freely for both sides.
American money flowed in freely for both sides.
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Yes. That would be an entirely appropriate action for an intolerant dictatorship to take. Why don't they just round up everyone who's not in their tribe and put them in, oh, concentration camps, awaiting a final solution?
Sound familiar? Hitler was democratically elected at first.
Sound familiar? Hitler was democratically elected at first.
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just as netanyahu should've been arrested as the WAR CRIMINAL he is when he had the audacity to come to MY country and interfere with MY country's diplomacy.
but he will face justice one day, along with all the war criminals in the apartheid state that calls itself 'israel.'
but he will face justice one day, along with all the war criminals in the apartheid state that calls itself 'israel.'
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One word: depressing.
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Racist, Arab-hating, land stealing Netanyahu, who killed 2220 Palestinians last year, including almost 500 children, is reelected. Now let’s watch the liberal and conservative media in the U.S. spin these facts into some exculpatory “pragmatism” on the part of Netanyahu: he was only using "campaign rhetoric" when he declared that there would be no Palestinian state. "He didn’t really mean it" when he raised panic at the thought that Arabs are voting in large numbers!
Imagine if a head of state in a European nation had campaigned on a platform of alarm that ‘Jews are voting in large numbers!’ The uproar from the “international community" would be sustained and planetary and he would probably have to resign.
Imagine if a head of state in a European nation had campaigned on a platform of alarm that ‘Jews are voting in large numbers!’ The uproar from the “international community" would be sustained and planetary and he would probably have to resign.
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We must remember that Netanyahu didn't win again without the help of the majority of Israeli voters. Apparently they approve of what Bibi does to Palestinian children! They approve of bulldozing houses & keeping the Palestinians bottled up in the Gaza strip. Shame on the Israeli voters!
I agree the Palestinians are terrorist too but they behave like occupied people always behave. It's much easier to kill when life is so miserable you lose the desire to live. Again...I live in peace with 29 other brands of humans...why can't Israel? Want the Palestinians to behave better? Treat them better!
I agree the Palestinians are terrorist too but they behave like occupied people always behave. It's much easier to kill when life is so miserable you lose the desire to live. Again...I live in peace with 29 other brands of humans...why can't Israel? Want the Palestinians to behave better? Treat them better!
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False equivalency Michael. Jews are not trying to violently eliminate 'from the river to the sea' any peoples in the lands in which they live. Not so in Arab countries toward the Jews, and you know it.
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Now we have proof of what Netanyahu believes in; Israeli settlements on Palestinian land, racism, apartheid, and the denial of the fundamental human rights of the Palestinian people. So much for Israel being a democracy by revealing it's policy of ethnic cleansing.
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Who in their right mind would surrender land to a group that has a covenant to destroy Israel and kill Jews? Look what happened in Gaza: Israel gave the Palestinians Gaza, and they immediately started building rockets so they could attack Israel. Why should Israel give more land to them?
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one day the word 'israel' will be but a distant memory in old, tattered history books.
After many decades of foot dragging to make Peace and false promises to make Peace, we must all now realize we have been misled by Israelis with the false belief that they wanted peace. This election soundly demonstrates that the majority of Israelis do not want peace, only expansion of territory.
Many years ago, the world through the United Nations granted statehood to Israel. Now it is time for the United Nations of the world to grant statehood to the Palestinians.
Many years ago, the world through the United Nations granted statehood to Israel. Now it is time for the United Nations of the world to grant statehood to the Palestinians.
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Dear Patrick,
I agree, but it's also the time for the U.S. to cease all weapons shipments and foreign aid to Israel. We can, maybe, give an exactly equal amount of non-military, non-financial aid to Israel and Palestine both, helping them with food, medicine, and so forth. But we've got to stop sending weapons that will only be used to kill people in holy war, and that includes money sent to Palestine that they use to try to kill Israelis. We've got to pull out and let them go their own way, which is probably fighting to the death. And when Israel and Palestine no longer exist, having eliminated eachother as their water ran dry, the earth will be incredibly relieved.
I agree, but it's also the time for the U.S. to cease all weapons shipments and foreign aid to Israel. We can, maybe, give an exactly equal amount of non-military, non-financial aid to Israel and Palestine both, helping them with food, medicine, and so forth. But we've got to stop sending weapons that will only be used to kill people in holy war, and that includes money sent to Palestine that they use to try to kill Israelis. We've got to pull out and let them go their own way, which is probably fighting to the death. And when Israel and Palestine no longer exist, having eliminated eachother as their water ran dry, the earth will be incredibly relieved.
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Phil, when you bulldoze people's homes in the middle of the night for no reason other than the phone line that they are housing terrorists the people in those homes will get angry and do you blame them?
Bibi is a racist and so is the state of israel for electing this man back into power.
Bibi is a racist and so is the state of israel for electing this man back into power.
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In fact, the world through the UN did not grant statehood to Isreal. On May 14th, 1948, the nation of Isreal sovereignly declared statehood, by the Peoples Council. This declaration was made the same day that the British mandate over Palestine was set to expire. Immediatly following this proclamation, five Arab nations (Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon & Transjordan) declared war on the state of Isreal. On November 29th, 1947 the United Nations adopted resolution 181, also known as the Partition Resolution, which called for the creation of Jewish and Arab - Palestinian states. The Arab states rejected the resolution out of hand, promising to oppose its implementation with force. So the notion that the UN created the state of Isreal is a misreading of the historical record and perpetuates the myth the Jews are really just leasing their homeland from the UN. As far as I understand the institutional structure of the UN, it does not have the powers or authority to grant statehood to any nation.
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Well, the people of Israel definitely have to live with their decision. I am certainly sympathetic to the state of Israel, but all politics aside, I am genuinely curious what they hope the long term outcome of this is going to be?
Bibi has ruled out a two-state solution. Clearly he is content with the perpetual state of "war". This means the Palestinians will live alongside Israelis in some capacity - Are they expecting the Palestinians to simply disappear? Or are they content with Palestinians to live in "secluded zones"? Or do they envision having 3 million second class citizens with no rights whatsoever? What is the long term vision of Bibi sympathizers?
This is all very baffling to an external observer. Given the long history of the Jews and their own persecution at the hands of others, I am truly saddened that they do not wish to see a hopeful future for all the people in the region.
Bibi has ruled out a two-state solution. Clearly he is content with the perpetual state of "war". This means the Palestinians will live alongside Israelis in some capacity - Are they expecting the Palestinians to simply disappear? Or are they content with Palestinians to live in "secluded zones"? Or do they envision having 3 million second class citizens with no rights whatsoever? What is the long term vision of Bibi sympathizers?
This is all very baffling to an external observer. Given the long history of the Jews and their own persecution at the hands of others, I am truly saddened that they do not wish to see a hopeful future for all the people in the region.
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"Merav Michaeli, another Zionist Union politician: This is our country. This is our society. We are here to work for both.” "
Not the country of the New York Times and of many hate speech commenters,
and not the country of the Obama Administration and Secretary John Kerry, who in 2014 "diagnosed" that the Jewish State had a hand in creating ISIS/ISIL/Daesh.
Not the country of the New York Times and of many hate speech commenters,
and not the country of the Obama Administration and Secretary John Kerry, who in 2014 "diagnosed" that the Jewish State had a hand in creating ISIS/ISIL/Daesh.
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Hate Speech ? Bibi gave that one a couple of days ago.
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Another sad day for the people of the world. "An eye for an eye" and the whole world blind wins again.
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What a tragedy for Israel...
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and the world... may none of our children go there to defend this hopeless area and endless wars
Israel is the only true democracy with open and fair elections in the Middle East. Arabs could -- and did -- vote along with Jews. We need to appreciate the open and honest elections in Israel.
We need to quit pressuring Israel to give their land to people who hate them and repeatedly attack them. Gaza is a classic example of what happens when Israel uproots Israelis and peacefully turns land over to the Arabs: They immediately start building armaments and attacking Israel. Isn't it obvious why Israel doesn't want a hostile Palestinian state on their border? Remember, Hamas was established with a covenant to destroy Israel and kill Jews? Would we give land on our border to ISIS?
We need to quit pressuring Israel to give their land to people who hate them and repeatedly attack them. Gaza is a classic example of what happens when Israel uproots Israelis and peacefully turns land over to the Arabs: They immediately start building armaments and attacking Israel. Isn't it obvious why Israel doesn't want a hostile Palestinian state on their border? Remember, Hamas was established with a covenant to destroy Israel and kill Jews? Would we give land on our border to ISIS?
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Maybe, it's just a thought, maybe we need to stop funding them. Then, we can ignore their supporter who seem to stir up trouble for us while critiquing us when we help them.
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So it's better to be surrounded by states and stateless people who hate you than to give them the one thing, statehood, your denial of which makes them hate you the most? Where's the logic in that?
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You mean land that was taken from the Palestinians by 3rd parties after WWII? You mean the Palestinians are being unfair by wanting their land back as much as Israelis want it?
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The Israeli electorate has spoken. They will get what they deserve.
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So far under Netanyahu that's been a very strong economy, more effective security and low Israeli casualties, relative to the rest of Israel's history.
Despite its small size and many enemies, Israel has emerged as the most stable state in the region, as much of the rest of the Middle East (e.g. Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, to some extent Egypt) veer from one chaotic disaster to another, while others look vulnerable e.g. Jordan and Lebanon. Turkey, increasingly Islamist under Erdogan, sat back while ISIS massacred Kurds on its border. And 17 tourists were murdered in Tunisia today. Meanwhile record numbers of French Jews are emigrating to Israel because they feel safer there than in the heart of Europe now.
The Israeli people probably not what they're doing. What they have achieved is truly remarkable. And history has taught them time and again not to give to much credence to what non-Jews think is best for Jews.
Despite its small size and many enemies, Israel has emerged as the most stable state in the region, as much of the rest of the Middle East (e.g. Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, to some extent Egypt) veer from one chaotic disaster to another, while others look vulnerable e.g. Jordan and Lebanon. Turkey, increasingly Islamist under Erdogan, sat back while ISIS massacred Kurds on its border. And 17 tourists were murdered in Tunisia today. Meanwhile record numbers of French Jews are emigrating to Israel because they feel safer there than in the heart of Europe now.
The Israeli people probably not what they're doing. What they have achieved is truly remarkable. And history has taught them time and again not to give to much credence to what non-Jews think is best for Jews.
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And yet, most Israeli young people are having trouble affording a place to live and places to start families. I don't quite buy it.
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I can only speculate that the Orthodox Jews in America are pleased with the outcome since they by and large identify with and support the right in Israel and increasingly claim to speak for Jewry. The majority of the the others, excluding those who support Republican Party views and right wing politics, are disappointed with the results and especially with Netanyahu's rejection of the idea of a Palestinian state. These are Jews who overwhelmingly support liberal positions and see the idea of two states for two peoples as the only way to avoid a future in which Jews rule over a minority that lacks equal rights.
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With all due respect, that 's not going to happen. Netanyahu just said it; last year Naftali Bennett said it; the settler parties say it all the time. There will only ever be one state and it will be based upon religious fundamentalism, militarism, racism, and right wing extremism. The other reality is that Netanyahu will keep trying to goad the U.S. into war with Iran. I would be very suspicious of any alleged Iran-inpsired "incidents" aimed against the U,S, - look very carefully for Israeli connections.
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"Jews rule over a minority that lacks equal rights": these Arabs are the former citizens of Egypt and Jordan, most of whom, after the 1967 war, were abandoned by their original states of Egypt and Jordan, in a policy to help create another Arab refugee problem for the Jewish State. They lived on areas conquered in the Egyptian and Jordanian military invasion of British Mandate Palestine in the war of 1948-1949. Those were never recognized by the UN as Egyptian and Jordanian sovereign territories until the 1967 war and conquest by Israel. This includes East Jerusalem. This is why the conflict continues in spite of the cold peace treaties Israel has made with Egypt and Jordan. Neither Egypt nor Jordan wants these Arab people back as their former citizens.
Unlike West Germany which fully absorbed millions of ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe after WW2.
Unlike West Germany which fully absorbed millions of ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe after WW2.
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a victory for racism and the far right...
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Really? Name the racist state wherein the minority citizens fully participate in the government, hold high-ranking positions in the judiciary, and have equal voting rights? That's right, there isn't one.
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Democracy in action.
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As a Jew I shout a loud OY! to the heavens!
That coalition is a rogues gallery of right wing fanatics.
Israel helps create it's own reality, its own insecurity with its policies and actions.
My view and also the view many security personnel in Israel.
If we encroached on land just over the Canadian border and built American settlements and brutally suppressed opposition to this action and had a fair number of our citizens declare that God gives us the right to do so because HE promised us the land:
1) the world would rightly condemn us
2) our citizens in Europe might expect a backlash from people who would have come to revile our policies
3) we would further poke the world by continually re-electing a man who pushes those policies in the face of world protest and who makes racist comments against Canadians
4) we would poison any chance of living in peace with Canadians of good will most of whom would be rightly radicalized against us
And I haven't even mentioned that we are going on 50 years(!) of such policies.
Israel, which I love and support as a nation has lost its way. Period. As the world turns against it, it doubles down on policies that disgust the world. We are witness to madness.
I hate Netanyahu and his right wing cabal because I love Israel and all that it can be as a positive force in the region.
It is being destroyed by the hand of its own fanatics before our eyes.
That coalition is a rogues gallery of right wing fanatics.
Israel helps create it's own reality, its own insecurity with its policies and actions.
My view and also the view many security personnel in Israel.
If we encroached on land just over the Canadian border and built American settlements and brutally suppressed opposition to this action and had a fair number of our citizens declare that God gives us the right to do so because HE promised us the land:
1) the world would rightly condemn us
2) our citizens in Europe might expect a backlash from people who would have come to revile our policies
3) we would further poke the world by continually re-electing a man who pushes those policies in the face of world protest and who makes racist comments against Canadians
4) we would poison any chance of living in peace with Canadians of good will most of whom would be rightly radicalized against us
And I haven't even mentioned that we are going on 50 years(!) of such policies.
Israel, which I love and support as a nation has lost its way. Period. As the world turns against it, it doubles down on policies that disgust the world. We are witness to madness.
I hate Netanyahu and his right wing cabal because I love Israel and all that it can be as a positive force in the region.
It is being destroyed by the hand of its own fanatics before our eyes.
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US foreign must now be independent of Israel, a nation no longer friendly to the U.S. and no longer our ally.
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Israel didn't encroach on anyone's land; it won them in a war against an enemy that was trying to wipe it off the map.
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Taking someone else's land in a war is still confiscation.
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So do we await another round of settlements? And what about the 'hordes of Arabs', what is to be their fate?
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The fate of the hordes of Arabs is the same as the fate of everyone in Israel and the Mideast. When all the fresh water runs out, which will be soon, they'll be refugees, and the lucky ones will be taken in by other countries. Most of them though will be killed by other countries instead, as those nations will be most concerned with their own survival. It'll be a huge leap forward for peace in the Mideast.
Netanyahu probably favors some kind of "self deportation" of israeli Arab citizens. If you make life difficult enough, perhaps. goes the thinking, they will all leave.
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Well that's it then. Some years ago, Gaza was allowed to vote for the only time (never since), and the majority picked Hamas, which has as its stated primary goal the complete destruction of Israel. At that time I knew, there would be no peace in Gaza until the next generation, only after Hamas' displacement from power would it be at all possible.
Now Israel's majority has chosen a man who has fought the notion of peace at every turn, who has stated that Palestinians should never have a state, and who just yesterday expressed deep alarm that Arabs were actually showing up to vote, as is their right. Netanyahu is quite clearly a fearmonger and a warmonger, and he is Israel's choice for head of state.
So now I know for certain, there will be no peace in Israel within my lifetime, and probably not ever. The majority of both sides hates the notion of peace and prefers war, as demonstrated by their choice of leadership.
So fine, if that's how it has to go, so be it. I'd advise everyone to ignore any babbling about the 'peace process' in Israel from here on in, and it'd be best for America to disentangle itself from that endless holy war. I can only hope that when, as seems likely, the area is wiped clean of the plague of humanity by use of nuclear weaponry, that the rest of humanity learns a solid lesson from it. Monotheism is the enemy of peace.
Now Israel's majority has chosen a man who has fought the notion of peace at every turn, who has stated that Palestinians should never have a state, and who just yesterday expressed deep alarm that Arabs were actually showing up to vote, as is their right. Netanyahu is quite clearly a fearmonger and a warmonger, and he is Israel's choice for head of state.
So now I know for certain, there will be no peace in Israel within my lifetime, and probably not ever. The majority of both sides hates the notion of peace and prefers war, as demonstrated by their choice of leadership.
So fine, if that's how it has to go, so be it. I'd advise everyone to ignore any babbling about the 'peace process' in Israel from here on in, and it'd be best for America to disentangle itself from that endless holy war. I can only hope that when, as seems likely, the area is wiped clean of the plague of humanity by use of nuclear weaponry, that the rest of humanity learns a solid lesson from it. Monotheism is the enemy of peace.
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Pride is the enemy of peace.
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Dear CR89er,
Yes of course, and what is monotheism but utter, nutty pride? The belief that oneself was made in God's particular image, and that only oneself knows the plan and mindset of God, and that all other notions about how the world works are wrong. Monotheism is the pinnacle of pride, and thus the prime enemy of peace.
Yes of course, and what is monotheism but utter, nutty pride? The belief that oneself was made in God's particular image, and that only oneself knows the plan and mindset of God, and that all other notions about how the world works are wrong. Monotheism is the pinnacle of pride, and thus the prime enemy of peace.
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Netanyahu displayed his true self in order to win: racist attitudes against Israeli Arabs, abandonment of the only possibility for Middle Eastern peace ... a two state solution, and a promise of further, provocative, illegal West Bank settlements. All this on top of warmonger towards Iran, and unforgivable intrusion into US domestic politics. Netanyahu is no friend of the U.S. With him as prime minister, Israel is no friend of the U.S. Our foreign policy must be pursued independently of Israel, lest we get sucked into Middle Eastern nuclear war provoked by Natenyahu.
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Ron, when the mullah regime continuously, unabashedly, and proudly calls for the elimination of the "Zionist Regime [they cannot even bare to say the name, 'Israel']," how on earth have Bibi's warnings about the mullahs' ACTUAL threats..."warmongering"? How? Because it's Israel? Because threats against Israel are, I don't know, fanstasical and delusional? Made up out of thin air?
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Great! It's also a failure for obama who tried to interfere in the elections by funding NGOs like "V15". The people of Israel decided, for the best.
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Your comments are laughable. No foreign national has ever interfered in American electoral politics the way that Netanyahu did in 2012 in his blatant electioneering for his old Bain Capital buddy Mitt Romney. The American people are fortunate in the failure of Netanyahu's efforts on behalf of the Republican Party.
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Enjoy your eternal holy war until the water runs out then. Not a word from Netanyahu about your doom of dehydration, right? Nah, just keep worrying about those terrifying Arabs, rather than the fact that Israel won't be able to support humans in less than a century.
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It is a failure of sorts for the President which I suppose is enough - apparently. But he will not live there, nor will his daughters. They have a future.
I understand the past. I understand these divergent pasts that haunt. What of a future? Peace is so misunderstood. It isn't not fighting. It is building a future knowing that which gets built has a chance to survive. Without peace, why build? With no point to it - building - as in building a world for one's kids, what really matters, and if nothing matters, what do you have?
Netanyahu can not make Palestinians not be. And while he can show the President of the United States, we will have a new one in 2 years, we move on.
Can Israel?
I understand the past. I understand these divergent pasts that haunt. What of a future? Peace is so misunderstood. It isn't not fighting. It is building a future knowing that which gets built has a chance to survive. Without peace, why build? With no point to it - building - as in building a world for one's kids, what really matters, and if nothing matters, what do you have?
Netanyahu can not make Palestinians not be. And while he can show the President of the United States, we will have a new one in 2 years, we move on.
Can Israel?
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The strong likelihood going forward is for more seizing of Palestinian land, more ethnic cleansing, more oppression, and more settlements for extremists. No conceivable little "concession" here or there can possibly undo the lasting damage this man and his party have already done to Israel and world peace. He is not a bargaining "partner," he is not a visionary, he is not a pragmatist, and above of all, he has never remotely been a reliable "ally" for America. His course of action does still depend heavily on the carte blanche given from his lapdogs in the US Congress, but there is little sign of them being held to account for their betrayal of America.