Oct 30, 2016 · 405 comments
judy.marie8 (Campbell River)
Chuck posted that Canadians should stay out of U.S. politics.

I'd like to respond to that statement as a Canadian who is living in constant hope that my country and the World Community evolves and will sometime soon consider "the common good" in every decision that is made. I think a Donald Trump presidency will not have that focus and that he will harm the countries far beyond the borders of the US.

Another aspect of my concern is that since Sept. 11th, the number of people buying real estate here has greatly increased. Many of the very pristine spots here have been bought by Americans that live here 6 months of the year and the always beautiful properties sit empty for the rest of the year. These places once were home to Canadian families, but now some spots are like gated communities for our neighbours from the south. They are always very nice people from my observance, but the prices have skyrocketed in these places and young people have no chance in having a home in the community that they grew up in.

Should Donald Trump win the election, we will have many more wealthy visitors who wish to invest in what they consider to be a safe place to live; actually, I don't think anywhere will be safe with Mr. Trump at the helm.
C. Morris (Idaho)
It's time to find out if there has been collusion between the Trump campaign, the GOP and the FBI/Comey in this new email matter.
What has Trump promised Comey??
Apparently Comey didn't have a warrant yet when he started divulging info on this 'investigation'.
We are in serious trouble.
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
The choices we were given is a message from above to pack up and leave.
Bhaskar (Dallas, TX)
Nate,

With the unmeasurable "hidden Trump vote", you have a better chance predicting with a lotto machine or a ouija board than your polling models.

If I must believe your numbers, then I must also trust 79.0765 % who believe that :
- by electing an African American, we have wiped out racism
- by voting for Hillary, gender inequality will be solved
- we must have a cured cancer patient as our president, to eradicate cancer forever

Keep up the good work, or whatever.
Mitzi (Oregon)
There is another hidden vote...women and people of color. so....
Bhaskar (Dallas, TX)
@Mitzi
You bring up an interesting point. I believe women and people of color are independent thinkers. But democrats treat them as a block that blindly believe and vote for them. Apparently, these people do not seem to mind being treated that way. That could explain Hillary's dependable base, and why her numbers will not dip much because of the FBI investigation.
Ron (Nicholasville, Ky)
I don't believe any polling with the exception of fivethirtyeight.com. Nate Silver nailed it in the past. Other intellectually dishonest polls are statistical manipulations to buttress a political pre-disposition.
When you go to the polls simply remember this: Both candidates are flawed, but only one candidate is narcissistic beyond belief, would lie when the truth would sound better, utterly incapable of being wrong and has a business track record of a rattlesnake.
You choose, and copping out by staying home is a violation of your ultimate civic duty.
Chuck (Key West)
I wasn't going to vote out of protest because in my eyes both are horrible; HOWEVER, now I am going to vote and vote for Trump. Enough is enough! This latest email thing plus "pay to play" explaining how those two Arkansas low lifes got so rich so quickly convince me we cannot put them again in Our White House. She will possibly be impeached; the email thing will go on and on and on. Why subject ourselves to all of that? Just put a political outsider in and give him a shot. For me it beats another Clinton presidency.
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
You are playing Russian roulette. Just know the US is going down in flame, the only respite is emigration.
Hari Prasad (Washington, D.C.)
For a more in-depth and calm perspective see today's article by Sam Wang of the Princeton Election Consortium:
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/10/30/a-test-of-the-polarization-hypo...
Mitzi (Oregon)
Thanks bookmarked this site
DSS (Ottawa)
When Trump gets elected on the 8th will America take to the streets in support of their dear leader, or will we be looking for an exit before the wall is built?
Dan Stackhouse (NYC)
I'd go with 'exit'. Or "Trexit" if you prefer, the Trump-cause Exit.
Tony (New York)
Thank you Anthony Weiner, Democrat of New York, for what you've done to your wife, your son and America.
Colenso (Cairns)
This unseemly and mucky pig fight between two sordid swine shows why the sitting US President needs to be able to sit more than two consecutive terms.
Sherrie (Ann Arbor)
I can't find a margin of error listed anywhere in the article. Without having access to this, we cannot determine whether the lead is significant or a result of the small sample. Simply saying that it could be the result of the sample is not enough.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
Margin of error in such polls is roughly 4-5%, standard.

Funny....when the odds were in Clinton's favor....nobody asked this....
Mitzi (Oregon)
go to fivethirtyeight.com for real info
mptman (India)
An appeal to the American people. When you are in the polling booth, remember : "Don't let what has happened to Europe happen to your country. Terrorism is at your doorstep. Vote wisely and choose the leader who will counter terrorism. Your vote will affect the whole world." Also, spread this message to all other American voters you know.
Hari Prasad (Washington, D.C.)
Indeed, Mr. Trump is the candidate favored by ISIS and North Korea for obvious reasons. For a recent in-depth analysis of his personality see this article by a clinical psychologist, Mr. Alan Lipman:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/opinions/trump-campaign-narcissism-lipman/
DSS (Ottawa)
Just remember, when Trump says he will make America great again, think of who he regards as America. For sure it is not minorities, Muslims, the LGBTQ community, youth activists, women or people who can't afford health care insurance. Who does that leave in Trump's America? Well just take a long hard look at who attends a Trump rally and you will see the New America.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
That's just ugly smearing. What has Trump done against gays or LGBTQ people? what minorities does he oppose? He is not anti- Muslim -- he is anti-TERRORIST. Big difference!
Barbara (New York)
I just hope I live long enough to read "The Making of the President 2016"
DSS (Ottawa)
When Trump has acquired the White House, makes a few changes to eliminate all traces of Obama, then sells it to the highest bidder, maybe then we will think twice about electing a real estate agent to the most important office in the land.
Joseph (albany)
And this poll was taken BEFORE the e-mail revelations. Not looking to good for Hillary Clinton in Florida.
Dan (Philadelphia)
Lucky for her, she doesn't really need Florida.
mj (santa fe)
Since there are constant polls for everything, there may also be a poll that say 46% of Florida, like Trump himself, doesn't know how to read.

Because if anyone read the story about Comey and the emails, they'd see it has yet to actually be a story. It was a very thin, very desperate political maneuver by a guy who will be out of a job relatively soon. What he did was not only irresponsible, it very well may be punishable.
DSS (Ottawa)
Wouldn't it be something if this latest Hillary email hysteria came up with nothing, Trump gets elected, but is immediately indicted for Treason for colluding with Russia to rig the election, for a phony Trump University scam, for tax fraud, and for sexual assault.
Chuck (Key West)
Wouldn't it be something if the FBI probe comes up with something, Clinton gets elected but is soon impeached? Incidentally, Canadians should stay out of our U.S. election.
Carol (Midwest USA)
What that would be is electing a more likable Ted Cruz. They are both righteous holy rollers. Pence is hated by more than half of his home state. Trump's numbers in Indiana went down when Pence was named VP.
MsPea (Seattle)
How come none of these polls ever asks me what I think? Hey, wait a minute...How do we know they actually call people? Does anyone ever check up on them? It's pretty clear the polls are rigged, cause I've never been called, and I don't know anyone who has been. It's part of Putin's plan to undermine democracy, I bet. I better have another drink.
jules (california)
It's because you live in a solid blue state. I've never been called either.
Marusa (Tampa, FL)
I live in Florida and the phone rings all the time from pollsters. I don't have time to respond to all those calls.
Joseph (albany)
The Democrats were celebrating when a hack federal judge indicted George Bush's defense secretary four days before the election. The charges were dismissed that December.

I guess what goes around comes around.
Patrick (Long Island N.Y.)
How ironic and short-sighted that Floridians trust a Real Estate man in a flooding state.
Hari Prasad (Washington, D.C.)
Is not Russian hacking and interference in the U.S. presidential elections a crime for the FBI to investigate? There are plenty of the Trump campaign's senior-level managers, advisers, and strategists connected with Putin and Moscow - Manafort, Page, Flynn. See the links attached:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/the-mystery-of-trumps-man...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/15/trump-advis...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/the-manafort-dossier...

Mr. Comey should inform the public in the interest of transparency what steps the FBI is taking to investigate the Trump campaign's collusion, if any, in treason. Watergate was a child's prank in comparison with Russians hacking private DNC servers and publicizing contents through Julian Assange, dripping email leaks daily in order to influence the election.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
What about the Clinton deal which transferred 20% of the US uranium assets to Russia while at the same time lining the Clintons' pockets???
hunternomore (Spokane, WA)
What about reading, doing research, discovering on your own that 9, that's right NINE government agencies signed off on the deal? What about that?
Dan (Philadelphia)
Hillary gave them the psychic Mesmer stare and they signed off. She's just that powerful.
Patrick (Long Island N.Y.)
In a few decades, the voters will remember that the Democrats sought solutions to the real global warming, documented, as Florida begins to lose real estate to the seas.
LeS (Washington)
Maybe it will sweep away all the Republican voters.
jules (california)
LeS - one can hope.
El Lucho (PGH)
No worries.
Tomorrow, I will wake up and realize that all of this has been a nightmare.
DSS (Ottawa)
For me I want to go back to sleep when I realize the nightmare is real.
Mike Gash (Oceanside, CA)
trump is the biggest national security risk ever!
He is FINANCIALLY VERY DEEPLY INDEBTED to Putin's Russian Mobster Oligarchs and subject to blackmail by Putin should he be elected in November.
If anybody should be investigated by the FBI & the CIA that person should be trump and they should issue and order for trump to release his damning tax returns!!!!!
SCA (NH)
Ain't karma grand? The Loehmann's version of Hillary and Bill might finally have derailed the Train to Entitledville.

Why did Hillary stay with Bill? Pretty good idea. Why did Huma stay with Anthony? Pretty good idea. And everyone who should have shown a little bit of ethics supported Anthony because, you know, Huma is the Clinton's pet lackey.

Randi Weingarten can't stand sexual predators no matter who they are? Except, of course, for Bill.

You did this, DNC. Why, indeed, isn't Hillary 50 points ahead? Because not even Trump can make her look good.
Gunmudder (Fl)
Want to see you talking "karma" if Trump gets elected.
Chuck (Key West)
Excellent letter; well put.
Nick Metrowsky (Longmont, Colorado)
In less than a week, the various polls, on Real Clear Politics have narrowed. Drop the LA Times and CNBC polls, the difference between Clinton and Trump are almost within the margin of error. The polls, as of today, partially include Friday's news. If nothing else, the polls have returned to the same level they were at before the Trump "Access Hollywood" tape. It will be interesting what happens come about Tuesday, Friday's news will not help Clinton.

The reaction to last Friday's note has been directed at everyone, but Clinton herself. Clinton created the mess to begin with. If there was no private e-mail server, no removal of e-mails from her e-mail account, and if she followed security protocols, she would not be under an another investigation by the FBI.

While Trump, and the GOP, have gone overboard calling this is the worse scandal since Watergate; they do have a point on destruction, or with holding, of evidence. It looks like, on the surface, like the 18 minute gap in the Nixon Tapes.

20 million people already voted; this revelation probably will not deny Clinton the presidency. But, she will enter office under a shadow of investigation. And, such, will have a limited mandate, and possibly a limited presidency.

Clinton surrogates, many posting here, and in the news media, continue to deflect, and redirect, from the issue at hand. Ergo, Clinton's paranoia has finally caught up with her, and all her positive works, may become meaningless in the minds of voters.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy obviously does have an obsessive compulsive hatred of Hillary that might make anyone paranoid. It isn't even paranoia with the obvious evidence you are out to get her and won't stop hounding her until you do.
Nick Metrowsky (Longmont, Colorado)
Steve, that may be true, but Clinton has not helped herself with this perception. No has Bill Clinton. And nor has the DNC and the media.
hunternomore (Spokane, WA)
Well considering the hatred Republicans have for Clinton and this country they ARE incapable of doing anything else. Comey will be fired and should lose any pension he may have for the damage he has done to this election. If people don't see who is behind this fiasco, just like when Bush stole the election then they deserve everything Trump will bring. Just like Bush brought the US 9/11, Iraq, NSA and $9 billion in gold stolen, not to mention the millions of emails THEY "deleted". Trump will have all the sordid legal scandals, IRS shocks, international crises, and chaos in the U. S.
Pete NJ (Sussex)
The rank and file at the FBI is furious with Mr. Comey's whitewashing and intentional bungling of the Clinton investigation. Standard procedures thrown out the window, The FBI's integrity ruined, Comey stands alone.
His action to re-open the file is not his own as those "in-the- know" with the weiner investigation would have leaked it anyway causing embarrassment to Comey. Comey did not all of a sudden grow a set, he is trying to protect his legacy and that of the FBI.
DSS (Ottawa)
This could be the basis for a new series on ho9w the FBI rigged the election to get Trump into power and assure Comey a place in the power structure.
DBL (MI)
What I'd like to know is why there is no discussion of the court dates Trump has coming up for the Trump University fraud and for being accused of raping a 13 year old, but we're still talking about emails. It is completely disgusting how no one even attempts to hide the double standard Hillary has to deal with.
Tamza (California)
Because Comey sin on the racket. Rigged.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
"Double standard Hillary has to deal with".

Cry me a river.
Lynn in DC (Um, DC)
Why yes, there is a double standard for Hillary and it is far from hidden. Anyone else doing what Hillary did would be in prison but here she is very close to becoming President.
gwxc (Allendale)
I am looking forward to calling America the Trump country. Just picture it, so funny. It is amazing that a person like Trump has such a big chance to win. Maybe people are really misogynist. They prefer a corrupt male over a corrupt female. Who is not corrupt, Trump? Hillarious
Joe From Boston (Massachusetts)
Trump remains totally UNQUALIFIED for the position of POTUS.

The conservative Cincinnati Enquirer had NOT endorsed a Democrat for 75 years before they indorsed Hillary Clinton. They said that Donald Trump "is a clear and present danger to our country."

The Miami Herald endorsed Hillary Clinton. They said "Donald Trump is a dmamged human being." No fooling. They said "Donald Trump ... has managed ... to fire up frustrated and frightened mostly white Americans with a campaign of hate and xenophobia."

As far as the recent Comey letter about emails goes, the FBI did not even have a search warrant allowing anyone to read those emails when Comey sent his letter on October 28. Comey had NO IDEA what any of the emails said. Had anyone at the FBI read the emails without a warrant, they would all be legally inadmissible because of a 4thAmendment violation. So Comey spoke with no knowledge of what the emails might contain.

Floridian should consider those comments before they go to vote.
Nick Metrowsky (Longmont, Colorado)
The same goes for The Columbus Dispatch And Dallas Morning News. Even the Longmont Times-Call, the local small daily, endorsed Clinton; no one can remember the last time they endorsed a Democrat. Though, Trump didi get endorsed by teh Las Vegas Times-Review. Heck, even The Sydney Morning Herald endorsed Clinton, even though it is an Australian newspaper.

All these endorsements, fro Clinton, has a common theme, she is bad, but is not as bad as trump. Also, they all mention her lack of transparency, and distrust by many Americans. And, they mentioned the e0mal situation could hound her presidency. Even The New York Times made mention of these issues, with their endorsement.

So, Ms. Clinton, despite otherwise, is on very thin ice, with voters. Having a 4-5% point over Trump, is not a ringing endorsement. Nor, is the possibility that Trump or Clinton will get above 50% of the vote. That has not happened since 1968 (Nixon won with 43% of the vote). The last year this nation was so divided and polarized.

The irony here, Clinton wins and goess the same way out, as Nixon.
annenigma (Crown of the Continent)
We want Bernie!
Tamza (California)
And we will take the act opposite if we can't have Bernie.

Really!
N. Smith (New York City)
You've got Bernie where he can do the most good -- in the Senate.
Both he & Elizabeth Warren are right on the Frontline...
Or, maybe you don't think that's important enough??
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Yep. Elizabeth Warren is on the front line...being paid $400,000 to teach one course at Harvard, then complaining about the high cost of education. Talk about a fraud.
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
I was recently heartened that Texas, the state where I grew up was within the margin of error for Clinton. It is beyond belief that the state that nurtured Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, LBJ, and even many a sane conservative would go for a sexual predator/moron like Trump. For people to call themselves religious or conservative either one in Florida and vote for a guy who openly called for Russian hackers to mess with our election AND for them to oblige him AND be rewarded by the South is sickening. His attitude towards women is beyond repulsive.
Raj Shah (NY)
I think Florida will make Clinton the First Female President, and probably the last White to head a Democratic Ticket.
closet theorist (colorado)
Add to headline, making story meaningless: "Mrs. Clinton still leads in an average of recent Florida surveys by nearly three points."
Dairy Farmers Daughter (WA State)
How about doing us all a favor and no more polls. No more on the emails unless there is real news. No more really, on anyone unless something illegal that is proven comes up. The hysteria of the press on every little thing for both candidates is over the top. Unless there is REAL NEWS, I am at the point I an just tuning out. This has been the worst election in memory on so many levels.
Mike M. (Lewiston, ME.)
When you have a state where white privilege is so much in evidence in a demographic dominated by active duty military, ex-military, well-off snowbirds and retirees and no-information "good old boys" are we really surprised about this latest poll?

In so many parts of our country, whether it be rural America or the Deep South, progressives and Democratic Party supporters have clearly made an egregious mistake in underestimating the continuing power and ignorance of the intolerables in our country who view an America through the prism of a bygone day.

The bygone day when women did not have the right to vote or have any recourse to stand up against a abusive spouse or facility member.

An America where blacks were discriminated and lynched by the light of a burning cross.

An America that saw Native Americans treated as "vermin" to exterminate.

In other words, an America where "white" was always considered to be right.

So folks, are we going to sit back and let these deplorables turn back the clock by voting for the likes of Trump and his GOP cabal????

Take a stance against the deplorables by casting a vote for Hillary.

A vote that counts for social and economic justice for ALL people and just just who have the advantage of having privileged, WHITE skin.
Pete NJ (Sussex)
Mike just so you know "Jim Crow" Laws were Democrat created. Also, Mr. Obama did little to nothing to help African Americans. President Trump will do much, wait and see.
James (Miami Beach)
If Barak Obama did "little to nothing" for African-Americans, why are so many black people already missing him--with tears in their eyes? (Same for some whites.) It is always a mistake to underestimate the power of a symbol--because symbols are REAL. President Obama has been a symbol of countless positive things in which most African-Americans (and some whites) take deep pride.
hunternomore (Spokane, WA)
Oh yes Trump would "do much" all right. Its just not the kind of much over 50%of the country doesn't want. You'll see.
njglea (Seattle)
The Con Don is telling his peons that "He really called that" with that big obnoxious smirk on his face - pacing around like a caged lion. Are they so stupid that they don't know that his backers - Bannon, Ailes and the rest - engineered this? The man is so stupid I nearly cannot believe it. Just another man with inherited wealth, an ego so bit it defies description and no social conscience. He needs to go far, far away.

Powerful women are here to stay, King Predator and Con Don, and they will no longer tolerate your un-hidden contempt for women.
Jon Smith (Washington State)
The assumption in the press this weekend is that this is the end of bad news for Clinton. Wikileaks will probably have some more information out this coming week. Comey should have asked for a Grand Jury during the first review and it should have also been assigned to a special prosecutor rather that Comey and DOJ handling this inquiry.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
What are poor Anthony Wieners job prospects now?
N. Smith (New York City)
Only in Hollywood could this be a relevant question.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
And Hollywood loves the Dems.
Lynn in DC (Um, DC)
This is a golden opportunity for him to get a reduced (or no) sentence in exchange for giving up what he knows about Huma and the Clintons. Afterwards, he will exercise his second act. Poor Anthony Weiner indeed.
Cherrylog754 (U.S.)
73 year old white retiree here. Spent a number of winters in Naples where my son worked. I'm a Democrat so there is a built in bias. These white retirees in Naples are mostly republican and eat their seafood at Lobster Hut. Go to Barnes and Noble and sit there and read all day and complain about our current President. And never spend a dime. They live in a "bubble" feeding off one another.
Then there is a place called "The Villages" 10's of thousands of them there, it's scary.
But my bet is on Hillary in Florida. The east coast and Orlando are heavily democratic and if they get out and vote, she'll win.
Mike M. (Lewiston, ME.)
Should we expect anything different from the white retirees?

They are the abominables among us living the days of 'Leave it to Beaver' where women stayed home, kept house and shut their mouths when their husbands slapped them around and blacks were forced to put up with Jim Crow and lynches by the burning cross and everything in America, from the ads you see to the politicians in government had a very "Caucasian" look.

I hope you are right that some of the more enlightened parts of your state will offset these ignorant, racist seniors, but I am not going to hold my breath.

So, unless something drastically happens, demographic-wise, to change your state, don't expect people like me to spend a dime of my hard earned money in anything related to Florida.
WiltonTraveler (Wilton Manors, FL)
First, single polls or even a couple do not a trendline make. Second, polls probably don't reach many voters quite relevant this election, especially the Latino vote in Florida (17% of the electorate). Third, voting in the large counties (Broward, Dade, Orange) has been heavy and those counties, especially the two in south Florida, are heavily Democratic. In short, I think the race will tighten here, but much is already baked into the pie and most minds already made up and ballots cast.
chucke2 (PA)
So the Russians hacked some new emails to benefit Trump. Joe McCarthy would love it. Trump and Putin can meet at Yalta and divide up the world.
Charles W. (NJ)
"Trump and Putin can meet at Yalta and divide up the world."

Just like FDR and Stalin did back in 1945.
Vladmir Borowski (Manhattan)
The choice has always been simple and remains ever so simple. Do you trust your familys future, your grandchildrens future, to someone who has cheated on everyone and everything he has ever touched, who has only enriched himself, who has raped women and children (just google Trump + rape), who is a self-confessed sexual predator, and who may very likely trigger another world war. Or do you vote for Hillary? It really is that simple. As the bumper stickers so honestly says it: "She's imperfect, but he's nuts". You can afford to be wrong about Hillary. You cannot afford to be wrong about Donald.
wko (alabama)
No we can't afford to be wrong on Hillary. She put our national security at risk by using a private server for government business, then lied about all the details surrounding the situation. Trump has done nothing of the sort. Talk is cheap and tawdry, but verified actions can be very dangerous. Hillary is the only one who has taken actions that have endangered this country while SOS, a position for which we taxpayers paid her to honor and obey the laws and constitution, and follow policies of the administration for which she worked. She failed, and worse, she did it willingly and knowingly. But I will not vote for either of these despicable, dishonest, deplorable candidates. Shame on us for nominating them.
Ruth (RI)
Hillary was not the first government official to use a private email server. Get over it. This is a witch hunt pure and simple.
Where are Trump's tax returns? Why isn't the FBI investigating email hacks and Trump's email for collusion with Russians?
LeS (Washington)
Stop YOUR lies. Hillary DID NOT put our national security at risk in any way, shape, or form. And she DID NOT lie about her use of a private server.

But thank you for not voting for Drumpf, at least.
Cath Boylan (France)
There are many major issues in this election. One of them is this: does America consider that Hillary Clinton is above the law? Or not?
A. Conley (at large)
Does America consider Donald Trump above the law? Or not?

That question swings both ways.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Or better, how far are we willing to let the ruling elite stray from the will and best interests of those that elect them?
DBL (MI)
Funny, I don't see any comments about the legal troubles Trump has coming up. Or is that of no concern to you?
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Comey has been getting a lot of flack from the Clinton campaign and surrogates but IF those emails on her laptop surface previously unreleased or deleted emails and uncover obstruction of justice or if they show Abedin was in violation of the Federal laws around classified information then he has done the right thing.

Otherwise, if Clinton assumes power without the public knowing these potential transgressions would never have seen the light of day.

He screwed Hillary, but he did what was probably best for those who care about transparent and accountable government
Mitzi (Oregon)
They were not on Hillary's laptop at all. It is not transparency, but a witch hunt which has no basis in reality at this point
Carol (Midwest USA)
You are wrong. He shouldn't have impacted an election with such vague information. If the emails turn out to be something, then deal with it. If they are nothing and he causes Clinton to lose, it will be a travesty.
chucke2 (PA)
Surly you jest. Comrade Comey.
Mitzi (Oregon)
fivethirtyeight.com does not indicate this..
W (Houston, TX)
The good news is, if Trump is elected and the Republicans keep Congress (opposite of Progress, by the way), then if we still have a country by 2020, the Democrats can take back Congress and do the redistricting their way!
Mitzi (Oregon)
the supreme court under Trump would cancel women's rights...you are for that I suppose
Lynn in DC (Um, DC)
@Mitzi Young women refused to pick up the feminist baton and be vigilant/fight for women's rights. When asked, they typically said they weren't feminists because they liked boys or shaving their legs or other nonsense. The opposition has since stormed the gates with minimal pushback. We reap what we sow.
Mitzi (Oregon)
I think you might be oversimplifying young women's position on reproductive rights etc. I have seen lots of young women are going to vote Blue because of things coming out about the Gropers attack on women...The anti abortion people have been busy for decades, nothing new here. And it is up to the Court.
frankly0 (Boston MA)
There's just an air of unreality about the discussion of these polls, given the latest bombshell regarding Hillary's emails and the FBI.

If there's anything the public would like to know from polling, it's the potential impact of such revelations. How much has the email issue cost Hillary in the past? How is the prospect for a finding of illegality going to affect people's votes? Do voters fear the possibility of impeachment and removal from office? How much might that fear incline them not to vote for Hillary?
Mitzi (Oregon)
fivethirtyeight.com offers much analysis of polls and agregates them at a state level....Nate Silver was part of the NYTimes in 2012...and got it right
Aaron (Ladera Ranch, CA)
As a Hillary supporter- I think she needs to be given a pass and a safe space. She may have made a few "ethical" mistakes but we all do! For example, I have an emotional support animal "Maxi" a beautiful ultra-mutt-mix snuggle snuggle lover of a dog. Before- I was forced to leave him at home because my employer wouldn't let me bring him to work and Maxi began to suffer from separation anxiety. One day, while waiting in line at the medical marijuana dispensary [I have athletes foot and my fingers are sore from playing the guitar and video games], the bud tender told me about a fake [Emotional Support Animal] certificate which will allow me to bring my Maxi anywhere! So I paid $75 online, downloaded my letter and received a cute red "ESA" vest for Maxi and now we can go anywhere! My work, Whole Foods, Library, a Bus .. It doesn't matter. So the moral of my story is Hillary lied, but she lied for the right reasons! And she apologized when she got caught and that makes everything better! Vote Hillary!
N. Smith (New York City)
ATTENTION: To all those unable to tell the truth from fiction.
This @Aaron comment is the latter.
Too bad it's also not funny.
Larry M (Minnesota)
Well why not? This is the same state that has twice elected Medicare fraudster, Republican Rick Scott, as governor. Makes sense that a documented serial liar, con-man and scam artist running for president would appeal to the same group of voters.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
And Minnesota elected Jesse Ventura. You're one to talk.
James (Miami Beach)
All you say is true. But many of us in FL (though not enough) deplore Rick Scott. Besides Medicare, let's remember his denial of climate change--the governor of the state most at risk from rising seas!
bob west (florida)
I have lived in Florida for 13 years, and have found that the retirees, ex military, retired civil servants and 'so called Christians here, are the most intolerant people I have met in my 73 years! The higher number of churches seem to indicate more intolerance.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
I would say there ignorance, bias and hatred has met its equal
N. Smith (New York City)
And I would be more prone to actually listen to someone who lives there -- as opposed to someone who lives several thousand miles away.
Heddy Greer (Akron Ohio)
"most intolerant people ..."

They appear to be particularly intolerant of corrupt politicians.

I'm with Him!
buffnick (New Jersey)
The Republican Plan:

- FBI director Comey caves to GOP and smears HRC with emails...again.
- Trump wins the presidency.
- Republicans keep control of both houses of government.
- Trump is impeached by republicans.
- Trump resigns.
- Pence becomes president.
- Pence nominates religious zealots to the Supreme Court.
- Republican controlled senate approves Pence's nominees.
- Conservative SCOTUS overturns Roe vs. Wade.
- Abortion is outlawed. Pence and Ryan high-five each other.
- Women's rights are tossed to the dustbin.
- Women are relegated back to the kitchen and raising children.
- White male privilege back in the driver's seat.
- Welcome to the Theocratic States of America!
The Last of the Krell (Altair IV)

America is a non functioning country w thousands of hydrogen bombs

isnt that a cheery thought
The Last of the Krell (Altair IV)

trump seems to be strong in th disney world area

how apt
Vox (NYC)
Presumably, a decent percentage of those saying they'll vote for Trump like/receive Social Security and Medicare? Yet, when asked directly by AARP, Trump refused to say that he'd preserve either! (Unlike Clinton who categorically supported both!)

Simply jaw-dropping how many Americans are willing to vote against THEIR OWN best interests!
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Sometimes you have to sacrifice your own self interest to rid the system of endemic corruption. Otherwise your just a lapdog to politicians who buy your vote.
mkm (nyc)
Then again they might be voting for their view of the country's best interest. Shocking that never occurs to the leftest sloganeers.
Mitzi (Oregon)
Really, you actually think Trump and Republicans who hold congress hostage are good...I guess you don't need your social security but all those old geezers down in FLA do.
Barbara (Florida)
I believe that Trump will win Florida. I hope that I'm wrong. Twice our state has elected Rick Scott, a wealthy business person with no political experience. Sound familiar.

Anecdotally, in my part of Pinellas County, one of the most competitive areas of the state, there are no Clinton/Kaine signs and many Trump/Pence signs plus a few Johnson/Weld signs. I did drive to another part of the county a few days ago and saw a few Clinton/Kaine signs but they were few and far between.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
I sure wouldn't display a Hillary sign in a gun-nutty state like Florida. It would probably get shot up.
Sharon5101 (Rockaway Beach Ny)
Yes that story does sound familiar. New York City elected a wealthy business person with no political experience to serve as our mayor three times. New Yorkers also got tired of politicians who promised us the moon and the stars and were unable to make good on their promises after they were sworn in. Somehow we managed to survive Control Freak Bloomberg.
LukeyL (Cambridge, MA)
Hasn't polling science pretty much established by now that trumpeting any single poll in isolation is misleading? The media seems intent to make headlines out of any poll's arrival, when in truth that poll is less meaningful alone than when we look at in combination with other polls, and/or as factored into a carefully constructed polling model.
outis (no where)
Florida + climate change + Trump (climate change is a hoax) = insanity
Had the media talked about climate change throughout the campaign, instead of the horse race and the emails, we would not be here.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
So I guess Anthony Weiner is now in the basket of deplorables too?
Noel Knight (Alameda, CA)
Whatever his personality/psyche issues, they have gotten
him to the point and pedestal where he can actually do
positive things for this country.

It's easy to listen with to DJT with a tin ear and dismiss him
off the cuff as a nativistic racist, but...his words ring true;
this country is being gutted and looted by its own elites
and various global trading partners.

If Donald can do even one thing to stem the tide then...hallelujah.
W (Houston, TX)
Donald is one of the elites and has certainly done more than his share of gutting and looting, and that's just with real estate. Imagine his hands on the entire country (and the international stage). He might be able to do one thing to stem the tide, but the 200 things he will do to destroy everything else will more than outweigh it.
Noel Knight (Alameda, CA)
So enjoy your Hillary vote then W. Good luck with that.
N. Smith (New York City)
@knight
Better luck with that vote, than for someone who gropes women, preaches racial hatred, and is endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan.
Jess (CT)
Hopefully Florida's vote becomes irrelevant for Hillary to win as it was for Obama in 2012...

C'mon Floridians! This is your chance to redeem your State!

"Trump" is totally the opposite to a dependable and exemplary person can offer"
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
"Redeem your state" from what?

Sounds like Northern privilege.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
If she never rigged the primary, we would have had Bernie here and he would be ahead by 40 pts.

karma just ran over the DNC dogma
Steve Bolger (New York City)
The Republicans obviously wish they could control their interlopers better.
CitizenTM (NYC)
Let it go. I did not like the DNC dogma any better than you. No reason to gloat - since the yellow haired orange skinned clowns are banging the gates of power again.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Winners never cheat and cheaters never win.
futbolistaviva (San Francisco)
The utter stupidity, that's right stupidity of white males in America is painfully predictable.
They have voted against their economic interests for decades.

This cabal is voting for the poster child (Trump) of an individual who offshores jobs and purchases Chinese steel for his real estate developments.

These low information voters have been conned and are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Mike M. (Lewiston, ME.)
You keep forgetting there are plenty of low or no-information white women that are voting for Trump.

Need an example of this - look at any Trump rally - lots of female faces.
John (Sweden)
TRUMP = A person suffering from NPD ( Narcissistic personality disorder )

Signs and symptoms

People with narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by their persistent grandiosity, excessive need for admiration, and a disdain and lack of empathy for others.These individuals often display arrogance, a sense of superiority, and power-seeking behaviors.

Narcissistic personality disorder is different from having a strong sense of self-confidence; people with NPD typically value themselves over others to the extent that they disregard the feelings and wishes of others and expect to be treated as superior regardless of their actual status or achievements.

In addition, people with NPD may exhibit fragile egos, an inability to tolerate criticism, and a tendency to belittle others in an attempt to validate their own superiority.

Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others

Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.

Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with
high-status people and institutions

Needing constant admiration from others

Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others

Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain

Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs

Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them

Pompous and arrogant demeanor

All of the above perfectly describes him...
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
To be honest it describes HRC too and 99.9% of all politicians
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
Our culture suffers from a narcissistic personality. That is who we are.
B Sharp (Cincinnati)
And people like Trump will fizzle out soon.
KosherDill (In a pickle)
The state that produced the Casey Anthony jury, that will apparently re-elect the same Marco Rubio who was tired of the Senate, barely showed up for work and vowed never to run again, and that elected a governor who won't acknowledge climate change. The place certainly is a magnet for the low-information set, isn't it?
WestSider (NYC)
An article that didn't get much attention, further proves how the Clintons see themselves above the law even in routine matters like getting a permit from the town before you start remodeling your home.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/us/politics/chappaqua-clinton-home.html

Clintons never followed rules, and never will.
Jess (CT)
And you think Trump will? Stay dreaming...
C. Bernard White (Houston, Texas)
Donald Trump has been right all along: the presidential election is rigged, but not by the mainstream media.

No, it's being hijacked by:

1.) An upsurge in accounts of the Republican voter suppression.

2.) Donald Trump imploring his supporters to venture into urban voting precincts to disrupt on election day, this against a standing court ordered consent decree against Republicans--- but for this reason.

3.) And of course FBI Director Comey's 11-hour stunt 11-days out from a presidential election.

Yes indeed, it does appear the 2016 presidential and congressional elections have now been officially rigged exclusively by Republicans. Sound familiar? Rings a bell?

And if voters were to elect Donald Trump president and re-reelect a Republican congressional majority, the American Middle/Working Class will never know what had hit by 2020.

However, as have we apparently not learned in 2000, 2004, 2010, 2012, and 2016, in 2020 we would have learned that "VOTES/VOTING" actually does have consequences.

To paraphrase Constantine P. Cavafy: "... Alas, we would have understood by then what these Ithaca means."
Patty W (Sammamish Wa)
Trump is a demagogue who should have never been allowed to be allowed to get a free pass and be considered to be for a world leader. He sociopathically lies about his taxes, mocking a handicapped person, his sexual predatory actions toward women and even makes perverted comments about his own daughter ! My father and others didn't fight wars so someone as dangerously incompetent and with no moral grounding would be given the presidency. It's truly a dangerous time in our election ! I am seriously considering leaving my America, my country, I love with all my heart and soul if the demagogue Trump gets handed the election. Shame on Comey and all the republicans supporting this incompetent and dangerous boy/man !
Gary Valan (Oakland, CA)
I am not voting for either of them but I can empathize with Hillary. After months of denial and effort she managed to tamp down her version of the "Bimbo eruptions" and now this. FBI Director Comey should be taken to the equivalent of the political woodshed and given 10 of the best. Why has this man put himself in the election process when there is clear precedence to delay any announcement till after the election? To a lay person it looks like he has an ulterior motive to possibly change the result of this election.

I hope voters remember this if he ever has the temerity to run for office.
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
He only confirms my reading of FBI as Federal Bureau of Oncompetence.
Jess (CT)
Yeas you are! You are voting for Trump.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Well IF the emails reveal either an obstruction of justice or a violation of the laws around classified information, then Comey has done the American people a favor.

Otherwise, if HRC ascends to the Presidency any transgressions uncovered here would be buried and never see the light of day.
Diogenes (Belmont MA)
What are we going to do after November 8th? We won't get our daily dose of adrenaline, shock, or surprise. We won't hear Kellyanne Conway, Rachel Madow, Bill O"Reilly, or Boris Epshteyn opining? Life will become dull and boring--until Jason Chaffetz starts impeachment proceedings.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
I think we either a Clinton or a Trump administration, the daily dose of shock and constant influx of problems do to mismanagement and horror over the corruption and lack of respect for the American public will still be an everyday occurrence.
The Last of the Krell (Altair IV)

usa # 1
Steve Bolger (New York City)
The next election campaign begins on November 9.
Shanan Doah (U.S.A.)
In this race to the White House it makes no deference who wins but "We the people" appear to be the sure losers.
N. Smith (New York City)
Really??-- And is this Trump lead in Florida supposed to be surprising after all the recently reported events centering around the eternal e-mail scandal, and anything else the Republican dirt-digging apparatus can come up with??
Does this country suddenly have a case of collective selective-amnesia?, or have 18 months of Trump's hate-slinging tirades finally dulled the senses (and the brains) of the American electorate?
Is this where we're all supposed to hold hands and jump into Trump's Ring of Fire, and condemn our Democracy to the garbage bin by accepting a demagogue in the White House, and a Republican-held Congress and Supreme Court??
Go ahead....I'll pass.
N. Smith (New York City)
@jacobi
It means I leave the country if Trump wins, because Trump is going to destroy it anyway.
Bill (Madison, Ct)
Trump has the same macho/racist appeal Reagan had and the white, uneducated male loves it. He would be just as devastating for them as Reagan was. All his policies are for the rich but they are swayed by their emotions against the minorities. Odd how they vote for the people who are going to hurt them the most.
Sam Peters (Hollywood)
Clinton = Nixon
Bill (Madison, Ct)
I guess Comey's strategy worked in at least 1 state.
RTB (Washington, DC)
This poll was taken before Comey sent his letter about the new e-mails.
Jonathan (Brooklyn)
I thought "polls OF polls" are the only way to present polling data meaningfully. So why does this individual poll get its own front-page headline story in the New York Times? Oh I see, because it was paid for by the New York Times and "[y]our polls are different."
michael kittle (vaison la romaine, france)
If Trump wins, will he cut off my social security payments? Will he force all expatriates to pay a sin tax for leaving the country?

America is about to receive an existential shock when Trump defies all logic, not to mention good taste, by winning the presidency, at least by the electoral vote alone without the popular mandate.

Like in any jury trial, the defense attorney needs to give the jury an excuse to abandon the front runner and go with the outlier. The new e-mails by Weiner, with or without sexting, are a good excuse to finally abandon Hillary and go with Trump despite all his bad publicity.

The good news is that Trump has few strings attached, doesn't owe many favors, and if pushed in the right direction may actually blunder into doing the right thing for Americans!
W (Houston, TX)
"blunder into doing the right thing for Americans". Sounds like the same logic as being pro-Brexit, buying lottery tickets, and denying the existence of climate change. Why don't we just elect a goat, and determine policy depending on which way it walks. I've got my people looking into that, and you won't believe what they are finding.
Bill (Madison, Ct)
Bannon is pulling the trump strings and that's not good.
N. Smith (New York City)
This kind of logic (?) can only come from someone who is overwhelmingly concerned about his own interests, lives 3,000+ miles away, and is White.
Most everyone else knows what Trump would do to this country, and that there is NO chance of him being pushed in any direction -- right or wrong, because Trump only listens to HIMSELF.
Live And Let Live (NYC)
I am currently listening to Trump's speech in Las Vegas. He blatantly lies and misrepresents the facts to a point where HRC could disclose she enjoys killing puppies and I'd still vote for her. She's no saint but she's not him. Forget about Trump repeatedly saying the voting system is rigged. Forget about him going on and on about Comey's announcement bastardizing the facts. The fact that he continuously makes up stories - HRC lied before Congress, pay for play, Bill and Loretta made a deal in the plane in secret - only he knows that, believe him he says, the emails on Weiner's laptop are the missing 33K - only he knows that, Huma is not who people thinks she is. How are people accepting of this? Are they so lazy they can't think for themselves and use common sense? Are they too lazy to question and demand evidence? Why isn't the media refuting him point by point after airing these rallies? When someone constantly says 'believe me,' that means don't. I'm afraid HRC is going to lose the election as a result of Comey's announcement about nothing. Do I wish someone else was the Democratic nominee - yes. But she's the lesser of two evils - she will protect the right to choose, protect and fight for gay rights, rebuild our infrastructure and create jobs, and keep religion out of government. I've never been afraid of a Presidential candidate coming to power. With Trump, I am scared and in this country I shouldn't be.
Kona030 (HNL)
"HRC could disclose she enjoys killing puppies and I'd still vote for her."

I'll one up you....I'd vote for the Adolf Hitler - OJ Simpson ticket before I'd vote for Trump...
Alan Levitan (Cambridge, MA)
Well, not the Adolf Hitler-O.J. Simpson ticket. Maybe the Adolf Hitler-Benito Mussolini ticket. I don't trust O.J.
Arthur (UK)
With all you've said, why then do you consider HRC an"evil".
People have to stop saying that, to stop parroting the right wing press.
What has she done that makes her Evil?
Please elaborate.
David Henry (Concord)
I'm making a list. Any state which votes for maniac Trump I will boycott, if possible. The New Jersey beaches are looking more beautiful as never before,
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Those states will miss your $5 annually.
Katie (Georgia)
Will you throw yourself to the ground screaming and thrashing about, too?
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
What if NH votes for Trump will you relocate. Also you people elected Ayotte. How could you??!!
Jay Davis (NM)
Dear Americans,

After 29 years of educating your children to be allied health care providers, I give up.

Next year I will retire...and your children can go to Trump University.

And unlike most of you, I actually can and will leave the country (I have the right to reside in other countries, and I am multicultural and multilingual).
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
That's what I recommend for my family no matter the election result. This country is toast.
RHB (New York, NY)
Are people across the country really going to vote for DJT just because more emails that the FBI probably already has have "shown up". I won't get into what I think about Comey's decision to disclose this. I'm so fearful that it is materially going to shape this election and after the fact this county will have to face what a Trump presidency means. It would be dangerous and embarrassing. I cannot even bear the thought.
bob west (florida)
You can thank Adelson(the good American patriot that he is) for turning the US in to his fiefdom.
Joe B (London)
I’m playing this computer game called ‘Countdown to Armageddon’ and however much I press ‘Escape’ or ‘CTRL/ALT/DELETE’ or try to turn it off , it is still playing the game.
It is now turned off and unplugged with an axe through the processor.
It is still playing the game!
All it is saying now is: ‘You have eight days left.’
gohar_c (Los Angeles)
Try pressing ALT-Right.
Alan Levitan (Cambridge, MA)
Gohar, yours is the cleverest response to emails that I've read today. Thank you!
J.D. (USA)
It's really sad that people could be influenced by Comey's transparent 'there may or may not be something that may or may not be related to what Clinton may or may not have done' letter. But, that notwithstanding, voting is a chaotic system -- think chaos theory and Lorenz's butterfly -- and so even this article about how it has changed will influence it. Or, in plain English: it's not over until it's over. After all, with the lead Clinton had, she could've still won without Florida -- I did the math.
LeS (Washington)
With the lead Clinton "has", she can still win without Florida. Read the article.
Lynn in DC (Um, DC)
I have long thought that the media overestimated Hillary's support and underestimated Trump's support, who know if that is accurate. I don't trust polls due to the low number of people polled, the declining number of landlines, the refusal to answer calls (on a cell or landline) from an unknown number, and the unknown probability that a likely voter will actually turn out to vote. We just have to wait until Election Day.
Early Man (Connecticut)
Fascinating map because one color overlaps nearly completely with sighting locations of what cryptozoologists call The Skunk Ape, a bigfoot type creature purported to roam Florida. The color is red, I'm voting for Trump and it's not because he is a male. Who wants to spend 4 or less years with her personal investigations impeding the work of government, and I don't see her withdrawing or resigning for the good of the country. I'm not Republican, I don't like their ideas. Their ideas are gone, Trump in a landslide.
Upstate New York (NY)
With Trump winning the presidency better never travel outside the US. I have family and friends in Europe and not only in one European country and they are aghast at the prospect or thought of Trump moving into the White House.
I am a dual citizen and if Trump wins this election, if I can avoid it, I will rrefrain from travelling with an US passport. The other advantage I have is that I speak more than one language
Early Man (Connecticut)
Well under that logic, if he wins you better move from upstate NY. I go anywhere one of our nine Trident subs goes like any American, safely and not pretending to be Canadian.
Debra (Formerly From Nyc)
Where should I go?
Canada or Mexico?
Or stay in America
Even with President A....pprentice
Tullymd (Bloomington, Vt)
Mexico? Really?
Old Yeller (SLC UT USA)
30% hispanic support for trump from the Cuban community? What is wrong with these people? I guess Cubans were not called rapists and murderers, so for the 30% that's OK.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Maybe Cubans and African Americans are finally realizing that they have been played by the Dems for decades.
CitizenTM (NYC)
Those 30% make a good living pretending that little and pathetic CUBA under Castro is a huge threat to our freedom and therefor they should get all these monies from political action groups instead of having real jobs.
Edward (Florida)
I already voted by mail.

Nobody polls me.

Trump for the Win!
N. Smith (New York City)
Here's a thought.
Nobody has polled all the othe hundreds of thousands of Floridians who have been maligned by Trump -- so enjoy it while you can.
Garth (Vestal, NY)
If Trump wins, enjoy the moment. He will stand before a Congress that hates his guts and will have to face a world, other than in Moscow, that is horrified that he is President.
The man is the text book example of a narcissist (someone who is concerned only with themselves and is totally uninterested in others). His economic policies are unworkable, the wall between us and Mexico is a fantasy, and in foreign affairs he is a babe in the woods.
Anyone who thinks he is up to the job of being President must also think that playing soldier is equivalent to experiencing combat.
C. Morris (Idaho)
This race is starting to look like the 2000 Bush/Gore nightmare scenario.
The way I read the polls in Fla, Stein and the Libertarian are taking a little more from Hillary than from Trump, producing a dead heat.
A redux of the 2000 race is becoming a real possibility.
Everyone swore it would be fixed to not happen that way again.
But, it is. Gee, what a shock.
As bad as it was in 2000, this shock will be much much worse.
But look on the bright side: It might be the LAST shock.
Thomas Payne (Cornelius, NC)
Trump already bought the Florida Attorney General.
Iver Thompson (Pasadena, Ca)
What is with this obsession about polls? Like most people really care what other people are thinking and leaning towards. I thought the trend was towards personal choice and not simply jumping off the cliff because more are doing so rather than less.
DMutchler (NE Ohio)
Perhaps Florida should be come a test case: let them go it alone. Yep, like Texas has wanted to do for so many (many) years, we should just tell Florida to secede, and all those retired, fairly wealthy, mostly white folks can have at it.

They'll be dead within a year (no one to cook their meals, maintain their pools, much less golf carts and courses), and we can then turn the state into the National Park it should be, at least coastal-wise (sorry Miami), allow farming to rule the mid-sections a bit, Disney can continue (who needs anything else in FL anyway?), and there we go: FL, a happy destination for vacationing and adventure.
PSS (<br/>)
You forgot no one left to care for all the residents in retirement and assisted living facilities and hospitals, all staffed by immigrant caregivers.
NYC (NYC)
4 points? It's more like 10 points. Trump is absolutely destroying Hillary in Florida. On election day, all will see that the real number is more like a 10 point gap and frankly, that could be on the low end.

The most humorous thing this week, beyond the gumby dog video, or really anything else, the most entertaining joke of an existence is the New York Times "probability" test where Hillary dropped from 92% to 91% minus 1 yesterday. LOL. Right.

The comments on here and these threads that last 2 days have been comical. Many illustrate just how sick of a nation we've become...er, check that, middle America's are normal. Liberals have are very ill and it's true that liberalism is a clinical disease.
Expatico (Abroad)
I can't believe the Times published a response with the word "punk" in it.

As your next President might put it, that's "sad."
N. Smith (New York City)
@NYC
You make so many points that are just plain incorrect and without substance, that it is mind-boggling.
Another thing.
The election is Florida isn't over yet, and polls aren't really the most efficient way to judge a race.
But for everyone in need of a good joke -- this comment will do quite nicely.
Upstate New York (NY)
Oh yes, as Trump said "I love the less educated" for he is so very educated and was so ill informed about the rest of the world. Again, like he said he is not interested in history he is only interested in the present and his future. As we all know those who ignore history are apt to repeat it. One example of not learning from history is Vietnam for prior to the US going into Vietnam it is interesting to know that the Russians and the French were at one point or another in Vietnam and both countries lost that fight.
Christian (St Barts, FWI)
I read about all the low-information, non-college educated Trump supporters and I hear Oscar Wilde's priceless Lady Bracknell, "I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone." Or as Trump himself put it, "I love the poorly educated" - one of the few truthful statements he's been known to make.
Scott (Cincy)
Voters are understanding it's time to drain the swamp of Washington. My absentee ballot currently isn't filled out - I'm letting the Clinton email scandal blow up further and further. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's happening: everyone has been paid off, taken care of, granted immunity or whatever else the Clinton's do to keep the power in their hands. I'm worried about the Supreme Court, but a large percentage of the country is worried about the well-greased Clinton's touching power again.
Mary Ann Donahue (NYS)
"Voters are understanding it's time to drain the swamp of Washington."

The swamp won't be drained by Trump, just filled with a worse slime. Plus so much of what's wrong with Washington is Republicans refusing to do anything much besides lower taxes for the rich. Trump is all about him, what's in it for him. Trump wants to hear that Apprentice line "You're hired" but if elected my guess is Pence will assume the Presidency within a year.
Dianne (NYC)
Normally I would be polite and say anyone who believes Trump's rhetoric and votes for him deserves him. But, since I have worked for the last 20 years to ensure my children grow up happy, well educated, caring, environmentally conscious and successful in life, I would prefer their lives not be destroyed in an Armageddon of a disastrous Trump term.
Registered in Florida (Jena, Germany)
I voted for Clinton by absentee ballot on Tuesday, and wouldn't think about changing my vote even if I could. Really looking forward to celebrating the first woman president next Wednesday!!
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
It would be great to celebrate the first woman President...as long as the first woman President is not a Clinton.
A. Stanton (Dallas, TX)
We have been given a choice:

Hillary, with all of her defects, blemishes, faults, imperfections, deficiencies, weaknesses, weak spots, inadequacies, shortcomings, limitations, failings, foibles, world of domestic and foreign policy experience and uncommon dedication to the common good,

or

Donald, a 70 year old man who mentally is still out on the playground comparing the size of his genitals to those of the other boys.

I can see how Trump’s concern with genital size may impress many of his supporters, but apart from this advantage over Hillary, I can’t find a single thing that puts him on an even plane with her or comes even remotely close to doing it.

Vote early. Vote as often as you can. Vote Hillary.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
"world of domestic and foreign policy experience and uncommon dedication to the common good"

What nonsense. Foreign policy grease fire. Dedication to common good? Hardly. Dedicated to enriching the Clintons is more like it.
A. Stanton (Dallas, TX)
jacobi -- The final count will be determined by how many obituaries I can find of recently deceased people in my neighborhood; and whether the ladies at my voting place are willing to allow my dog to vote this year. They are all Democrats, so I am optimistic about Kota's chances.
A. Stanton (Dallas, TX)
Make that:

They are all Democrats, and so is she, so I am optimistic about Kota's chances.
W (Houston, TX)
It's hard to get around the fact that "middle America" still exists. After all, the Democratic presidents for the last 50 years prior to Obama were, let's see, a white man from the South, a white man from the South, and a white man from the South. In addition to the rousing of minority voters, Obama won in part because he was running against a rather incompetent candidate in McCain, his stupid choice of Palin, and the economic meltdown (which occurred on the watch of... a white man from the South). Obama won again in 2012 because he's pretty awesome, and because Romney was not a white man from the South. Now neither Trump nor Clinton are white men from the South, so we have a very close race, much closer, of course, than it should be if middle America didn't exist.
TomMoretz (USA)
People are going to drive themselves crazy following these polls. Trump's up! Now Hillary's up! Trump takes back the lead! Hillary gains a small edge! How do you not get whiplash from all of this?
Diana (Centennial, Colorado)
Comey is the swift boat commander of this election. He just fired a bombshell into Clinton's campaign. He issued an ambiguous statement to Congress before he even had a warrant to read the e-mails contained on whatever devices shared by Abedin and her hapless husband. So he has no clue what information those e-mails contained - he just knows there were e-mails on those devices, possibly linked to Abedin and Clinton. All of this in the interest of fake transparency.
Meanwhile Trump encourages Russia or China or whoever to hack away at Clinton's e-mails and Comey isn't interested at looking at Trump, even though evidence points to Russia doing its damnedest to influence the outcome of this election, and Trump had a campaign advisor (now fired) with direct links to Russian politicians? He doesn't think national security has been threatened by these hacks?
Mr. Comey has done something no other FBI director would have incautiously done in an ongoing investigation, that is, he has released unfiltered information before determining whether it even rises to the level of being substantive. His intentions do not matter. What he has done is hamstring Clinton, and now the election and this country's future are on the line.
After the election, Mr. Comey should be fired for incompetence.
Phil Dauber (Alameda, California)
Why wait? President Obama should fire Comey now.
greenie (Vermont)
Seems like many would prefer that the existence of the e-mails be hidden, either forever or until after the election. Why is that? Are you concerned what might be on them? Perhaps emails that were "oops" deleted from Ms Clinton's computer and have never seen the light of day?

If you've got nothing to hide, the presence of these emails shouldn't be a problem. Well other than perhaps government correspondence was found on an insecure computer shared with a spouse busy sexting pics of himself to teenagers that is.......
njglea (Seattle)
There is not one thing that will do more to move America ahead than to elect our first female President. It will empower over one-half our population - women - to step up and help make America and the world a better place. Powerful women are here to stay.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
It would be good to elect a woman President - just not a Clinton.
ac (nj)
There goes those low information voters, again. Has it ever occurred to anyone the correlation between educated and uneducated voters? Our nation is so dumbed down educationally you could rename it Kardashianstan.
gordon (america)
Keep calling us low information. You have a fascinating strategy for winning over 40% of the electorate.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
Trump enablers are obviously the authors of their own discontent. Their character judgment is so defective they just keep getting conned and conned again.
greenie (Vermont)
@ac

And you still haven't figured out that insulting Trump supporters or even the undecided isn't winning you any friends?
Mary (PA)
Republicans always seemed, if nothing else, economically savvy, yet here they are backing a candidate who is a flimflam man, a person who refuses to disclose his potential conflicts of interests, and who seems to thrive by manipulating losses, not by prospering. Hey, Republicans, I have a bridge to sell you!
greenie (Vermont)
If Clinton wasn't such a weak candidate, the Dems would be coasting to victory. That this is not the case is due to the heavily flawed nature of BOTH candidates.
C. Morris (Idaho)
Mary,
Trouble is, we will all end up on the bridge.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
"a person who refuses to disclose his potential conflicts of interests"

That sounds like Hillary and the Clinton Foundation to the letter.
Arne (New York, NY)
Really, the third-world country unpatriotic candidate of the Republicans is ahead in Florida?
Beth! (Colorado)
First, Trump's been camping (and lying at rallies) in Florida for weeks. Second, the portion of college-educated whites in Florida must be very low. Colorado is the state with the highest portion of college-educated whites, hence Clinton leads Trump here.
N. Smith (New York City)
According to Republican strategists, Trump is STILL having a hard time gaining the support of college-educated (White) women in Florida....BIGLY!
Jack (MT)
Let's make a list of each candidate's qualifications and experience. Then let's make a list of each candidate's lies. Then let's make a list of each candidate's proposals. Look at the lists carefully. Facts are verifiable, so verify those you question. Leave your bias and prejudices behind. Then vote for the candidate who you think will be best able to govern. Base your judgement and vote on the items in the lists.
judy.marie8 (Campbell River)
I don't mean to be speaking out of turn....some of us Canadians are overly cautious in that way; however, American citizens are scaring the daylights out of the rest of the world.

Your country is seen as a beacon of hope to so many troubled areas of the world...your democracy is admired and the passion of so many of your citizens acknowledged time and again.

This time so many of us are bewildered and deeply concerned that an incompetent and loutish man could be leading your great country. The possible damage done to yourselves and the rest of the world by choosing the wrong leader is actually frightening to many "foreigners".
David Jones (Toronto)
I agree, Trump scares me to death, the possibility that that lying bully could lead the most powerful country on Earth is truly terrifying. He might not have created ISIS, but he sure will become their poster boy. And his cavalier attitude towards global defence and the use of nuclear weapons implies the world won't have a very bright future with him at the button.
w (md)
As a US citizen I can only concur with your concerns.
It is terrifying to contemplate a republican win.
N. Smith (New York City)
@judymarie8
Please don't make the mistake of clumping all American citzens together into some kind of monolith just to prove yiur point.
There are a lot of us here who are equally scared (and outraged!) about Donald Trump.
Besides -- we don't blame all Canadians for Tom Ford.
Richard E. Schiff (New York)
At age 69. I have been an avid reader of Histories, asnd of the New York TImes, ever since the Herald Tribune folded, and that's a long time now.

For the first time in that long life I find myself embarrassed by the sensationalism of this current campaign for President. The entire world is horrified by the way the Media, contrary to Trump's scorn for said media, has given this the real flavor of a corrupt Horse Race.

Bookie Nate Silver, has become a "sage" in this fracas. Every media outlet is screaming nearly obscene forecasts; one day for one, the next for the other.
It is like watching The Perils of Pauline, the lady always tied to the railroad tracks. Youngsters are often unaware of the tactics used to captivate their innocent attention. This is where we are seeing a manipulation that is unfair, and, unethical.

All these polls do is upset the equilibrium of the election, and the fascination for Trump is startling, for the effect it will have on generations.
Beth! (Colorado)
The media did not sensationalize this campaign. No, Donald J. Trump did that. The media just held up the mirror.
DB (Charlottesville, Virginia)
"Fools Rush in Where Angels fFear to Tread" - often quoted and very pertinent to the latest release of a letter by Mr. Comey.

Mr. Comey specifically violated the "Hatch Act" and, in my opinion,may have done so solely to influence the outcome of this election. As a result Mr. Comey is indeed a fool and along with him are those who jumped to the conclusion that the emails on "Mr. Weiner"s computer were 1) relevant to Ms. Clinton or had any evidence of wrong doing on her part. Indeed they may be nothing but personal emails between her and a member of her staff.

Obviously, Mr. Comey could care not one wit what effect his action would have on this election. His action was disgraceful and self-centered.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Speaking of disgraceful and self-centered actions, none of this would be talked about today if HRC had not set up the private email/server. Tried to dodge FOIA laws.

As usual, another self-inflicted move by a Clinton.
CitizenTM (NYC)
One look at the photo of Comey showed me an obedient pathetic creature doing someones bidding without any thought or conviction - simply because this what is expected of him from his handlers.

I pity the woman he exchanged his wedding band with that was seen on his hand on the picture when he took an oath.
N. Smith (New York City)
@purdue
Your argument might make sense if it had any merit to it -- But you have over-simplified it to the point of obsolescence.
Try again.
dan (ny)
Consider the mental state of a person who, prior to Friday, was not going to vote for Trump; but now, in light of the BOMBSHELL, well, maybe they'd better just go ahead and vote for him after all. Think about how stupid you'd have to be. This is what the fate of the nation hangs on.
beth (San Francisco, CA)
There is nothing there there. A pure poltiical, irresponsible move by Comey. He hasn't even SEEN the emails yet.
C. Morris (Idaho)
dan,
We are now in deep deep trouble, and apparently Comey, without the approval of the AG or anyone, has thrown the election in Trump's direction.
Why this is even close is beyond belief, and is much more a stain on the reputation of the American voter than Trump or anyone else.
Even if you dislike Hillary you can see her as POTUS.
How does anyone of sound judgement look at Trump and see him as POTUS?
It begs credulity.
I'm getting an awful feeling about 11/8, and more specifically, January 20.
DZ (NYC)
@beth, you meant to say "no there there," and you don't even know what that means. You have just heard it repeated ad nauseam for the last couple of years now, and parrot it as if you have made an original point.

And yes, Comey has "SEEN" the emails. Not all of them, but enough to prompt this latest action. That's what his letter stated the other day. All two paragraphs of it. You should read it before commenting.
Jim (Dallas)
Within the "margin of error" but I suppose at this point in time it's the only good news that Trump can publicize.

More important to the Trump campaign, and what the GOP should be banging the drum about, is that in early Florida voting, more registered Republicans are voting than Democrats. Perhaps that is why HRC was in Daytona yesterday reviving up the troops with an extensive with a GOTV ground game network that Democrats have spent $$$$ on with paid operatives in, I believe, 138 state offices. Presently, Trump has only one (1) office with paid operatives; that campaign relying on the GOP's state party operation to turn out the vote.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
I know at least one Florida Republican registered voter who has already voted for Hillary.
N. Smith (New York City)
Trump is relying on GOP state operations??? -- Well, good luck with that, since he had to infuse his own campaign with $10 million because the GOP has bailed on him by supporting other down ticket Republican candidates.
Anabelle Rothschild (Santa Monica, CA)
Once again the people of Florida are trying their best to wreck this country by handing it over to the worst possible amateur in American History just like they did to GW Bush, the most irresponsible and worst president to ever disgrace the American Presidency from whose malice and self-serving agendas we have still not recovered. If they vote this shallow facade of a contender into office America will deserve what it gets and it will be ugly. That a any woman with an iota of self respect would vote for this Trumplodyte primate is beyond comprehension.
Beth! (Colorado)
Now is all fairness, it was not the people of Florida who gave Florida to GW Bush. It was the Republican Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, who purged thousands of "black sounding" names from the voters on the pretense that they could possibly be ex-convicts and not eligible to vote. Since Bush "won" by only 500 votes, it is likely that Harris' blatant election rigging made all the difference.
JY (IL)
Interestingly, the polls were done before news about the FBI investigation broke. Polls after Oct. 28 could be more useful to look at.
ed g (Warwick, NY)
Time to accept that America is two countries. So Trump gets states which vote for him. Ditto Clinton. Americans not interested in either get parts of California, Arizona, Michigan, New York, and Florida which combined become a third nation.

The new countries sign non-aggression and peace pacts, divvy the present national and other debt based on population and work out new division of the defense (and fence) of each nation. Native Americans get to keep their reservations and are granted five more in each new entity and hence become a new (fifth) country.

Now back to the World Series (limited in fact to the US) and feetball!!

God bless Trump Towers and Golf Clubs and Clinton's emails.

Long live Bernie!
Beth! (Colorado)
I often wish there were a way to divie up the country along ideological lines. The Blue states are sooo much more prosperous and healthy and better educated than the Red ones ... but this is not the North and the South only. So we are doomed to keep struggling.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Prosperous blue states, like Illinois? Chicago and the state are both in the ditch financially.
N. Smith (New York City)
I still don't understand how you can put Trump and Bernie in the same thought.
frankly0 (Boston MA)
Obviously this poll and others don't take into account the FBI revelation. Nor do they take into account any effects of the final WikiLeaks releases, which have very likely been organized so that the most damaging material will come at the end. I gather there's even another Project Veritas video about to be released.

Of course, our media is going to pull out all stops to ignore or spin these revelations, but they won't be able dam it up in today's Internet world.

Now it may be that they themselves have planned a release of some video of Trump engaged in some scurrilous activity. Maybe there's video of him from 40 years ago patting some woman on her behind, which will shock, shock them.

But unless they've got something big up their sleeves, I don't see how Hillary's poll numbers don't take a big spill, and Trump's a big surge.

After all, independent of all the current excitement, Trump was already pushing up in the polls.

And remember this very basic point: this is a change election if ever there was one. The mood of the country is extremely sour. No one could represent an outsider more than Trump, and no one could represent a corrupt insider status quo candidate than Clinton.

Voters should very much break Trump's way.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
Trump only represents Trump.
W (Houston, TX)
Funny that the "outsider" is a Wall St elite billionaire who got his money the old fashioned way--by inheriting it.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Who cuddles up to Wall Street more than Hillary?
Cjmesq0 (Bronx, NY)
I have faith in the American people that they will not vote for a person under criminal federal investigation. If she wins, she will be like Nixon, walking in the hallways of the west wing mumbling to herself.

The investigations into her crimes will not end in November 8, so deal with a President Trump to avoid a constitutional crisis.
Jakob (Washington DC)
So you have no issue with the IRS investigation on the phony charity spending, thats just great to you?
Kim (NYC)
Actually the only one of the two nominees under criminal investigation (Trump U) is the Donald.
Cjmesq0 (Bronx, NY)
Kim: Nice lie.
True Observer (USA)
If you took a vote, half the women in Florida would love to be groped by Trump.

Even in Brooklyn.
jk (Jericho, Vermont)
Are you male? That is exactly what it seems men fantasize about---that we women wish to be groped by men. NOT!
N. Smith (New York City)
@observer
First. You're WRONG!
And I don't know where you're from -- but take it from a New Yorker, you'd better leave Brooklyn out of this.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
People who elect a billion dollar Medicare cheat their governor obviously lack adult character judgment. They are true gluttons for punishment.
Lena (Alexandria, Virginia)
Twice!
Ken (St. Louis)
"Latest Upshot Poll shows Trump leading in Florida."
Yeah, just like sports guru polls show the Cubs winning the World Series.

Most political polls are gossip fodder, little more.

Besides, who would care if Trump won Florida anyway? Considering that he's going to get creamed in at least 45 of the other states (plus the District of Columbia).
mtrav16 (Asbury Park, NJ)
I keep forgetting how ignorant floridians are, scott who stole 250 million from medicare, rubio an incompetent fool, what more could one expect. Hopefully florida will float away with them all.
eric selby (Miami Beach, FL)
Please don't say that. I am a Floridian and I never have voted for any of the GOP candidates. I've already cast my vote for Hillary and Murphy for senator, knowing Rubio is going to win. You must remember that where I love in Miami-Dade County we tend to be rather liberal, open-minded.
Debbie (Santa Cruz, CA)
please clone yourself...and then go vote some more
DB (Charlottesville, Virginia)
Eric - how about we give you plenty of warning (so you can move to Georgia) and then give the rest of Florida to Cuba
Critical thinker (CA)
My state will elect Hillary so I was planning to vote for the green party candidate.
But given the gerrymandering, Russia efforts and Comey efforts to go after HRC, I felt like the only thing I can do is vote early and vote for Hillary.

I find it curious that the FBI did not initiate an investigation of Trump's sex offenses. I also cannot understand why key figures in the Bush administration were not investigated for fraud and treason for misleading our nation to for a war that weakened the US, had a huge price tag in dollars and casualties, destroyed Iraq and Syria and caused a humanitarian crisis that we have not seen since the second world war.
Deborah (Montclair, NJ)
State law would probably cover the sex offenses unless the Mann Act were involved, and for most of those alleged offenses, the statute of limitations has expired. Trump's foundation and his university are far more likely to result in fines from the states where he has done business.
CitizenTM (NYC)
The agencies that are tasked to save guard our nation have been taken over by a cabal of political operators.
ac (nj)
When I think of Florida, I think Banana Republic. Why doesn't this news surprise me?
FunkyIrishman (Ireland)
Talk about voting against your own interests.

If there is any state in the continental US that requires IMMEDIATE action to guard against climate change and the erosion of coastline, it is Florida. Put aside the fact that the Federal Government ( FEMA ) will be required to intervene more and more with clean up efforts over the coming years.

Republicans in general ( Trump and Governor Scott more so ) want to shrink the Federal government, while at the same time do nothing to address the mounting challenges and threats.

I wonder how people will vote when they are under water.
SayNoToGMO (New England Countryside)
What you say is very true, but Trump has riled up the angry white racist anti-science anti-tax crowd and the last thing on their mind is climate change. They drive around in their coalrollers covered with American flags and NRA stickers. When the ocean invades their homes, they will insist on a government bailout. Crazy times ahead!
DB (Charlottesville, Virginia)
I knew there was some reason why I love Irishmen (and women). Well said
Eli (Boston, MA)
Hillary Clinton has been investigated numerous times and never been charged. Now more innuendo with hidden facts.

Not so with Donald Trump who has 2 dates to appear in court after the elections:

1) December 16, 2016 for rape of a minor.

A federal judge in New York has ordered counsel for Donald Trump and the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein to appear in court along with the attorney for a woman referred to only as “Jane Doe” who alleges the Republican presidential nominee raped her when she was 13.

Judge Ronnie Abrams has slated an initial status conference in the civil lawsuit for 16 December in a New York district court.

2) November 28 2016 for defrauding.

U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel on Friday scheduled trial for Nov. 28 in the suit that alleges people who paid up to $35,000 for real estate seminars got defrauded. Trump planned to attend most, if not all, of the trial and would testify, Trump attorney Daniel Petrocelli said.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
"Hillary Clinton has been investigated numerous times and never been charged."

So? Al Capone was only convicted of tax evasion.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
The rape charge is REALLY bogus -- the plaintiff alleges she was raped 20 years ago. The statute of limitations is long past, even if it counts from her 18th birthday and not the date of the alleged rape.

Men who rape adolescent girls have a pattern of behavior doing so. It's not a "one off" kind of thing. Trump has no history dating or assaulting underage girls.
Zulu (Upstate New York)
Well we don't want democrats becoming complacent and feeling that Hillary can't lose so let's hope that articles like this will make Floridians and all other American voters realize that the race is close enough and the danger serious enough that they all better get out and vote for the dems!
SCB (New York, NY)
86% of Republicans are now supporting Trump, huh? Doesn't it warm your heart to see all these so-called 'values voters' setting aside their scruples to support their party's amoral, misogynist, racist, dishonest and ignorant megalomaniac of a nominee? The white Christian GOP base has sure shown its true colors in this campaign.
Yogini (California)
They are phonies and were never about religious values. It was a power play all along.
CitizenTM (NYC)
I'm not a Christian, but I grew up in a Christian Church in Europe (Lutheran). Those folks in those congregations over there would not recognize a single 'Christian value voter' of the right fringe in America as living a Christian life or behaving and acting like a follower of Christ.
mptman (India)
An appeal to the American people. When you are in the polling booth, remember : "Don't let what has happened to Europe happen to your country. Terrorism is at your doorstep. Vote wisely and choose the leader who will counter terrorism. Your vote will affect the whole world." Also, spread this message to all other American voters you know.
Walter (<br/>)
In addition, don't forget about the 35000 + yearly deaths attributed to gun violence, the leader who has chosen to ignore this, and the leader who would seek to find a solution within the 2nd amendment. Surely this REAL issue, which is far more dangerous than foreign terrorists, is being overshadowed by fabricated events that are largely speculative and have harmed no one.
gordon (america)
80% of which are committed by individuals who have illegal obtained said weapon. Intelligent voters can google data. We have a criminal problem, not a gun problem.
corvid (Bellingham, WA)
Can't help but wonder about the prevalence of women in Republican households whose first priority is domestic peace, but who privately have no intention of voting for Donald Trump.
CitizenTM (NYC)
I pity all those women who share their bed with their enemies.
Girish Kotwal (Louisville, KY)
All the pollster in Florida have been proved wrong again and again. The real poll is on election day. The issues Floridians care about most I think is social security and Trump has said he will not tinker with it and that is a great relief. After what happened in Orlando, Floridians are hoping to elect a president who they consider will keep them safe. Floridians who are not on Medicare but are on Obamacare would be expected to be angry if their premiums and deductables are going up. Florida being Trumps' second home and with him being a major employer for jobs he has asomewhat of a home course (golf) advantage. So it will be no surprise if Trump wins Florida even with a small margin on election day. But winning Florida may not be enough to win the election but I can safely say that as of today Trump and Clinton both have a 50:50 chance of winning.
EHR (Md)
I am somewhat baffled about all the anger regarding Obamacare increases. I have employer-based insurance that sky rocketed last year to the point where I had to drop my husband, who now does not have any insurance. So Obamacare isn't working as hoped--all the more reason to roll up sleeves and fix it or to take the next step to single-payer insurance. Not to get angry that Obamacare exists in the first place and attack the only party who actually made an effort.
Beth Cioffoletti (Palm Beach Gardens FL)
Trump will never take Florida. I've been living here for almost 40 years and I know the state. Along the coasts, we are becoming much more ethnic and colorful. Migrant workers live in die-hard red counties, and they vote. Even the wealthy in Palm Beach County are suing to have the Trump name taken off of their golf communities. Florida is not the deep south, rather the great land of the Seminole Indian tribe and Governor Lawton Chiles.
C. Morris (Idaho)
4% is a pretty good lead. Margin of error, yes, but, not necessarily wrong. It's looking like he can pull it off.
Just supposing: What if Trump wins the POTUS, but the Dems take the Senate?
No one has been talking about that scenario.
I don't know what Hillary may have left in her ammo locker, but she better turn it all loose come Monday AM!
Time for her to start with the outrageous accusations against a Trump/Comey/Russia axis of evil.
Not true, you say?
So what?! When has that stopped Trump.
He's about to win based on crazy lies.
And make no mistake; He and the GOP will be much worse winners than losers.
mtrav16 (Asbury Park, NJ)
I'd like to believe that, but I don't. they elected rick scott who stole 250 million from medicare, they elected rubio and empty suited malingerer. I hope you're right (no pun intended)
C. Morris (Idaho)
mtrav16,
I have to agree with you. In my life I have seen Nixon, RR, and GWB elected and re-elected.
Thing is with Trump: There may be no 2020 election cycle.
He swings Erdogan, Putin, that guy in the Philippines.
Patience (Ct)
My patience is fading. The press is failing. Hillary's story is easier to report - one story one vein endlessly repeated by all. Such failure can sway polls.

Who will post a nation wide, 24 hour mile high chart of Trump's lies?
Most voters don't read the small newsprint of fact checkers. Very few trust the electronic media. We all need a constant available source of facts to refer to as we evaluate his record of lies.
Trump is now , has always been and will always be a chronic liar. He cannot change because every bully has to believe that he is stronger than everyone - or he will collapse. His constant flow of lying words and lies and actions have damaged so many people and so many dreams and so many values. Her defensive lies thus far have damaged only herself.
MetroJournalist (NY Metro Area)
I don't know what to believe in the way the media has been covering this election. I find to wrap my head around the idea that anyone other than a cretin or sociopath would support Trump. Isn't anyone in Florida outraged about James Comey? I hope that Elizabeth Warren becomes the Attorney General of the U.S. and creams everyone who is trying to destroy democracy in America.
C. Morris (Idaho)
Just wait until America has to look at itself in the mirror come the morning of 11/9.
What will we see?

This is getting terrifying; A narcissistic projection monster with no impulse control in charge of the most powerful nation in history.
fortress America (nyc)
we have two forms of outrage, the first is that Comey buried the first inquiry, and the second is the self-righteousness of the anti Trump voicer, be sure we feel that way about you
Walter (<br/>)
Fortress America. Your political mindset brings us back 500 years, and most of us would rather look forward with anticipation, not dread. You have no one to blame but yourself for your leadership choices. You need more of a plan than "believe me".
Jess (CT)
With it ups and downs, I have believe in this country good judgement. Growing up in a third world country with a history of cups, genocide, impunity of corrupted governments dealing with drug trafficking, women and children trafficking, etc, I have to say that choosing a man like Donald Trump is going to be the beginning of the US downfall.
He is not, in a million years, qualify to lead this powerful country.
The US was and has been the laughters of millions of people around the world for the invasion of Irak. Florida has been the laughter of millions of people around the world for the fiasco in the election between Al Gore and George Bush.
If Trumps wins Florida, prepare yourselves to be the laugh again.
He is not what the US represents.
He doesn't represents me, nor my daughter.
He has a depraved indifference to human life, but his.
He is a perverted and degenerated thing that should be cleaning toilets in prison He, with his salacious and libidinous conduct is not what the USA should have for president. Period.
C. Morris (Idaho)
We thought the 2000 cycle was a laugher. Gore couldn't lose to the sophomoric, average troglodyte at best, GWB.
Well, FLA gave us 8 years of Bush.
History can repeat itself. Trouble with Trump is; there may be no more history repeating itself. When he talks about Hillary getting us into WWIII he is projecting what he himself will do.
It's awful I know, but, , , , get ready for it.
We simply can't have POTUS Trump, yet it looks like it can happen.
This says more about the American voter than Trump.
RML (Washington D.C.)
Other polls show Clinton is leading in Florida. She is going to win Florida!
Tourist (upstate New York)
I see in the Florida demographics that females outweigh males significantly in potential voters. Trump is vulgar, full of himself, and creepy. All his bombastic vitriol does not really impress the ladies, democrat or republican. He is the one your brother or mother warned you about in high school.
Katie (Georgia)
I'm a lady. I'm voting for Trump. So is my Florida Mom, Aunt, Cousin and great friend. Also, my brother voted for him on Friday.
Garth (Vestal, NY)
Thank goodness for the electoral college and that Florida can only contribute 29 votes. Even if Florida goes to Trump, Hillary can still win. While having Hillary Clinton in the White House is no reason to celebrate, the alternative is downright terrifying.
Despite her negative qualities, Hillary Clinton will be a capable President. Donald Trump has no positive qualities and if elected, his supporters will realize within a year that they gave their vote to a snake-oil salesman.
Anabelle Rothschild (Santa Monica, CA)
The only thing Florida should be allowed to contribute to the electoral college should be Indian River Red grapefruits and as many as they want to.
mtrav16 (Asbury Park, NJ)
On day one, are you joking with "within a year".
ksl (NJ)
"The survey is Mr. Trump’s best recent poll in Florida, and it should be interpreted with caution. In general, it is best to look at an average of polls. Mrs. Clinton still leads in an average of recent Florida surveys by nearly three points."

And yet, your headline blares "Latest Upshot Poll Shows Trump With a Lead in Florida"? Would it not be "best" to go with what you caution is the best way to look at it?
gewehr9mm (philadelphia)
The biggest disappoint here is that Mr cohn does no analysis of the African American voter drop as a percentage of the electorate in Fl and NC. Both are states that have instituted draconian voter registration rules and voter purges.
anycomment (N J)
Many in favor of Trump -- who has not demonstrated a knowledge of the issues or the temperament to be president -- are actually voting against HRD and the policies of the Dems. A better approach is to split the vote and keep the Rep in control of both houses of Congress. That would be a sufficient check on the policies of the Dems that Rep don't like.
Lew Street (Texas)
No surprise. Florida is full of people who have been around just a little longer than Hillary and know a charlatan when they see one. They may not exactly embrace Trump, but at least he says what they think.
Mary Ann Donahue (NYS)
"...and know a charlatan when they see one."

charlatan-- a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud.
This is Trump!
Miriam (Athens, GA)
You may not agree with Hilary's policies or accomplishments, but to call her a charlatan either demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge of the English language, or an utter disconnect from reality. Neither does she misrepresent herself and all her experience and skill, nor does she pretend to be other than she is. The person who accurately embodies such a word is Donald J. Trump.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
No bigger fraud than a Clinton.
Eli (Boston, MA)
Two weeks before election under Republican President Bush in 2008, percent growth -.5% or "negative growth"

Two weeks before election under Democratic President Obama in 1016 percent growth + 2.8% or "positive growth"

ALL politicians make promises, Trump makes wild promises like his friend Putin (strong leader), Democrats deliver.
AZPurdue (Phoenix)
Speaking of promises, Obama said he would cut the national debt in half during his first term. How is that going?

Democrats deliver!
gordon (america)
Leftists were tempted to believe Obama's support among POC would shift to any fill in the black Dem candidate, I seriously feel sorry for you guys, even though I support Trump. The former was wishful thinking. Evidence? Today's ABC tracking poll that has Clinton +1. Clinton is bringing in 68% POC support. In 2012 Obama exit polling had him at 80% POC support.

When your entire party writes off 70% of the countries population you literally need historic POC support to win a national election. Try again in 2020!
johnlaw (Florida)
I am a Florida resident and will admit that Hillary can shoot someone on Biscayne Boulevard and I will still vote for her over Donald Trump.
CitizenTM (NYC)
Maybe the rumors about the Floridians are wrong. Maybe you are representative of the true Floridian.
Tom (Fl Retired Junk Man)
Trump's supporters have been branded non-college whites, the biased press has done that.

So are the Black supporters to be branded also, and as what ?

And the college educated Whites are what ?

Latinos are ?

We are Americans all.

The bias that drips from each and every story in The Times is so obvious, what is also obvious is the news media doesn't vote for us, we vote for ourselves.

So speak up America, don't let these talking heads from the liberal bastions of the Northeast decide this is a coronation. At this point we should all know better.
B Sharp (Cincinnati)
Not really, some of us believe fivethirtyeight more than any media`s predictions. Yes it is narrowing but Hillary Clinton is still ahead.
greenie (Vermont)
I don't think we'll know what the result will be until after the election. I still don't know who I'm voting for; and if a pollster called me I wouldn't tell them anyway. Here in the land of Bernie I expect Clinton to win handily. That said, I also suspect many Trump supporters will keep their mouths shut lest they risk condemnation from others. I wonder if that is the case elsewhere as well. If so, when in the privacy of the voting booth, they will make their choice known.

This does make me uncomfortable with the idea of having large numbers vote prior to the election. I think this option should be reserved for only those who will be out of the country or the state they vote in on election day. Too much can happen in the days leading up to an election to allow so many votes to be locked in so soon.
Socrates (Downtown Verona, NJ)
Let's Make Conspiracy Theory Great Again !

Trump-Pence-Comey 2016
Miriam (Athens, GA)
I think you mean Putin-Trump, right?
njglea (Seattle)
The media loves their polls and I do not believe one of them. Good People of Florida please get out and vote, today if you can, for our next President -
Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton - and other socially conscious democrats and independents who will restore democracy in America.
will duff (Tijeras, NM)
Two in a row. Two qualified, intelligent Democratic presidential candidates who just happened to tap into our deep veins of unconfessed prejudices, race and gender. All the repressed (and not) white rage at a black man as president has been hashed out endlessly and some confessions have become implicit. Through all that President Obama has won over 52% of us, a sign of absolutely brilliant leadership. Now we have to confront another illogical resentment, our fear of females in "male" roles. Perhaps, when Clinton turns out to be a great president, we will all be a little closer to cured of these primitive failures of intelligence.
Wine Country Dude (Napa Valley)
Not at all. We fear insular, corrupt women in positions of power. Big difference.
susanw (raleigh, nc)
You don't speak for me, nor for many democrats who abhor Clinton. The only "deep vein of uncontested prejudice" Hillary taps into for me is my uncompromising prejudice against liars.
Tim (Seattle)
@WCD, or maybe you fear a woman president so you decide she's insular and corrupt. With lots of help from right wing media of course.
john (virgin islands)
The alienation of white, and especially white working class voters from the Democratic Party is a huge issue, for Hillary and for the Party, and it seems to me to be the biggest 'news' of this poll. Is the Democratic Party only the party of Urban White Elites, and Latino/Black voting blocs? What does it say that Hillary and the Party seem willing to write off at least for this cycle hard working, striving, struggling white families? It is not enough, nor is it fair to label this group as deplorable, racist, sexist, etc. - this is the group that when they were union members were seen as if not quite the Progressive vanguard (that being the media, college students and professional Progressives), they were at least the Progressive base. Either the disconnect is just with Hillary, which I want to believe, or possibly the disconnect is between workers and the Democratic Party, which worries me more.
gordon (america)
Agree 100%. I'm 29, White male, have a masters degree and live in liberal nyc. Voted Obama in 08, Kerry in 04. Support Trump for this election. Not for economic reasons. I'm simply sick and tired of White males being 24/7 decried as this countries "problem".
anycomment (N J)
Hillary refers to the group you reference as "deplorables." She and the Dems have no interest in their vote or in representing their interests. HRC is confident she can win without their votes.
W (Houston, TX)
Gordon, if your man wins, we'll have the biggest white male problem as head of state. It will be nonstop drama. Good luck with that.
Richard Grayson (Brooklyn, NY)
It's been clear to me, as a liberal Democrat, that Trump would win all along. Since the first debate, the polling data sort of changed my mind, but I have lived in and traveled in many parts of this country, and except for Brooklyn, most of NYC, Los Angeles, D.C., the Bay Area, and a few other places, the overwhelming majority of Americans are dumb and ignorant -- so they will vote for someone like them.

The United States is finished as a world power, as a democratic experiment, as a nation. Those of us who live in the rational parts of the current U.S. will want our own "Brexit," our own version of Scottish devolution or independence, because we don't want to be controlled by the drooling yahoos who make most of the populace of the current U.S.

There's nothing wrong with our country that ridding ourselves of flyover country wouldn't completely cure.
Paul (White Plains)
This is exactly the type of elitist thinking that Democrats exude, and was perfectly verbalized by Hillary Clinton with her "basket of deplorables" speech. Democrats do believe their way is the only way, and the ruling Democrats in Washington believe Americans in the heartland are inferior. Be careful of the Democrat elite. They crave power, and will use it to your detriment if you oppose them.
greenie (Vermont)
@ Richard

And statements such as yours, and that of Clinton's labeling Trump supporters "deplorables" are exactly why Trump is doing so well. What is it you don't understand about that?
ExPeterC (Bear Territory)
Drool on, both of these candidates are from New York State- please Brexit and take them with you.
Andrew (NY)
Lifetime free membership at all Trump golf courses for Mr. Comey, and something nice under the tree for Mr. Comey around x-mas time, especially as Mr. Comey stuck his neck out to violate the Hatch Act in his pre-election stunt.
Shorebreak (Middle of Texas)
"Mr. Trump leads among white voters without a college degree by an impressive margin of 63 percent to 24 percent."

I'm not surprised. Trump's oratory plays to those who readily accept false innuendo and hyperbole.
Anti-Propagandist (St. Louis, MO)
Because this was taken prior to the Comey/FBI news, we might hypothesize that the shift toward Trump represents resentment to the early week news of Obamacare premium increases. Even in what were otherwise Clinton supporters, the reminder of how much Obamacare has already taxed them and hurt their personal economics creates enough anger to make many vote for Trump or at least not vote for Clinton. It is ultimately "about the economy, stupid".
faceless critic (new joisey)
With me, it is about the Supreme Court, stupid. I'm voting BLUE to take back the Senate and flip the House.
CitizenTM (NYC)
Those folks can rot on their own uncovered health problems, if they prefer that.
The silver haired monsters that have swamped Florida over the last 3 decades are not a great generation but the most selfish generation that this nation has ever had to endure. As these things go the full damage that this generation has wrecked to our nation and the planet becomes only apparent on their way out. Can't wait for this moochers to die out. They have contributed zilch and taken everything, leaving nothing for the next generation.
Sarah (Arlington, VA)
Nate Cohn writes that 'without Florida Trump has no 'plausible path to the presidency.

He should look into the statistics of his first name namesake, Nate Silver.

Even if Hillary Clinton doesn't win Florida, North Carolina and Nevada, she has enough solid blue states that already amount to over 270 electoral votes, which include the now solidly blue state of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

As a Virginian, that won't make me complacent though, but voting straight Democratic for the first time down ballot, even if the local Republican dog
catcher is nicer than his Democratic opponent.
John D (San Diego)
I still expect Clinton to win, but...

There's nothing more fun than whispering "Trump" and watching a liberal jump four feet in the air.
PB (Ithaca, NY)
Great attitude. You should consider yourself part of the problem in our country.
John D (San Diego)
Duly noted.

PS:

"Trump."
Renee Jones (Lisbon)
@ John D:

So you like the candidate who looks at a 10-year-old girl in terms of dating her a few years down the road.

Sickening.
elizabeth renant (new mexico)
Clinton's lead has been narrowing in several places, including in Florida. Even if Trump took Florida, Ohio, Utah, and Texas, what we would still have is a close race that Clinton will win but by a margin that in and of itself will deepen rather than heal the country's divisions and give support to the right across Europe. Had a half-decent Republican been run by the GOP, Clinton would have had poor chances. She owes the fulfillment of her ambitions to a set of circumstances that no one would have accepted in a film script. Trump as her opponent was an early Christmas gift the Clintons could only have dreamt of. That she had to fight someone like Trump this hard down to the wire will render her likely victory somewhat pyrrhic - the Congress she will face, particularly in the House, will contain many legislators who hated her husband, hate her, and will do anything to obstruct her path.

The narrow margin will make its own statement; if Trump takes OH and FL, the real question is, will anyone in government including the victorious Clinton, hear the sobering message? She is essentially a center-right hack bringing her husband, a tainted politician, with her back into the WH. She will have three years to change the public's perception of her.

That said, this is only one poll. I have friends checking varied polls on an hourly basis, in part thanks to a media with a vested interest in keeping things feverish. It has been a disgusting spectacle aided by media bias and hypocrisy.
Wanda (Kentucky)
You are probably right (though it's always easy to imagine how an election might have gone when the truth is, we don't really know how she would have performed against Rubio or Cruz.

But this is what drives me crazy about politics. There is a split in the country, but it's not about personality, but about policies and issues. A "decent Republican"? Sure. But one who doesn't want to see gay marriage or Roe v. Wade overturned (despite any personal issues about abortion)? One who wants to raise taxes some to pay for things, like infrastructure and veteran care, that we need? One who understands climate change and the challenges that we are going to face (not "believes in" as if it were a religious creed)? One who really is about rights (not the right to discriminate)? One in favor of stronger safety nets for children and the elderly? Who wants to protect the environment and National Parks and Monuments for our children and grandchildren? Pay for prisons and the justice system and not privatize everything? Work toward a single-payer health care system? Not one. Can you think of one? Not even Kasich.

I don't vote Democratic because the Democrats are better people than Republicans, but because they don't think the Constitution boils down to the Second Amendment, but also know that the founders thought government should "promote the general welfare." Of course, government isn't the answer to everything, but it's the answer to a lot more than people give it credit for.
jk (Jericho, Vermont)
What a cogent, excellent piece!
elizabeth renant (new mexico)
Fair points, all. But I am old enough to remember a different era when Republicans and Democrats did not function in the way we see now (I have no idea how old you are, so will make no assumptions). The truth is, the Deep State is supported by both Republicans and Democrats: neither party are really working for the good of average people. Nothing will change under Clinton - and some of that will not be her faulty: the President these days is not really that powerful compared to the forces controlling Congress.

My point was that given 1) the traditional reluctance of the electorate to keep voting the same party into the WH after two consecutive terms, and 2) Mrs. Clinton's flaws as a candidate, I stand by my point that had the GOP had a candidate not this side of absurdity running, her chances would have been much poorer. As it is, WITH a candidate this side of absurdity, she is having to struggle.

And she will do little to nothing to "promote the general welfare". She's part of the problem, not its solution.
toom (Germany)
Trump is a proven liar, proven fraud (Trump U.). The BIG question is whether all of the GOP business "geniuses", like Rick Scott (gov. of FL) are like Trump, or is Trump a unique specimen of rotteness? This should really worry the GOP. Once the idea that the GOP is identical to Trump is going to be a VERY big problem.
L (NC/Ohio)
Pick your poison, indeed. I cannot think of any time in my life time when there were two such polarizing political candidates to be forced to choose from. Neither one of them has established to my satisfaction that they have one iota of real understanding of the struggles real working class people dealing with skyrocketing, federally sanctioned private health premiums, punitive fees, corporate labor favoritism compounding the problem of stagnant wages and shriveling benefits, and soul-crushing college debt costs that threaten to bankrupt even the most budget minded American families.

Hillary is far too distracted by her obsession with the Republican 'conspiracy' out to get her to see the rest of us clearly and The Donald is far too distracted by, well, his own monstrous ego. I will not be voting for either one of these individuals and instead focus on our state electoral battles. Sad.
Jack M (NY)
Just in - "Iceland’s prime minister announced on Sunday that he would resign, as the insurgent, anti-establishment Pirate Party capitalized on a wave of anger over corruption."

It's happening all over, folks. She personifies the elites establishment cronyism that is being expelled all over the world. The only human I can think of that actually makes Trump look remotely palatable is Hillary Clinton. You had Biden, Bernie, so many great options - and yet here we are. Don't blame anyone but yourselves.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
It's weird, the Dems crushed Bernie and he was their really great chance for real change -- they let Debbie Wasserman Schultz steamroller him with dirty tricks -- and NOW they act all surprised that crooked, lyin' HIllary is a crook.
Howard Godnick (NYC)
"Repeal And Replace"
My preexisting condition
My 25 year-old addition
Under my insurance there now is a place

But my insurance will be done
And there's no coverage for my son
When there's just a promise to repeal and replace

Promises so empty
Seem bold and so tempting
When he shouts them at crowds in a roil

But his rhetoric so sleazy
And promises, so easy
T'is the secret to this man selling snake oil

Every minute is born a fool
On whom he preys, takes to school
All the while, he's looking for trim

They shout at his rallies
Drawn in by Trump's follies
But like PT Barnum, it's only about him
pkbormes (Brookline, MA)
@Howard Godnick
That was great! I really enjoyed your poem, even though the truth is scary.
Howard Godnick (NYC)
Thanks you - I post all of my lyrical, political ramblings on my public Facebook page - Godnick's Musings. Please feel free to visit, share, like (or dislike) and invite others.

Best,

Howie
Paul (White Plains)
This must be killing the Clinton political machine. It appears that outspending your opponent by 10 to 1 does not necessarily buy off the voters.
Eli (Boston, MA)
More lies and disinformation from the Trump camp.

NO Clinton is not outspending 10 to 1 and yes the commie Comey help to the Trump/Pence/Putin ticket has been invaluable.
John D (San Diego)
Clinton is outspending significantly and just last week "commie" Comey was your hero.
MindTraffic (Chicago)
Comey has not been the hero of any Clinton supporter. His gratuitous and unprofessional comments back in July proved he was a partisan hack.
Renee Jones (Lisbon)
And next week, Hill we be in the lead in Florida.

These microcosm headlines are tiresome. She is going to be POTUS, and, even while presiding, will continue to single-handedly beat Republicans as their vicious games.
Joe Barnett (Sacramento)
He has cheated his contractors, students and investors who put their faith in him. Why would anyone want to trust him with their Social Security program. The Republicans want to privatize that and Medicare, he will be glad handed into agreeing to this and more. Friends don't let friends vote Trump.
Andrew (NY)
"He has cheated his contractors, students and investors who put their faith in him." The scary, almost never-remarked aspect of Trump is that for all the heinousness of his "actionably" dishonest business dealings, like defrauding investors and students at his Trump U. education racket, his major "legitimate" business enterprise, casinos, operated on the same deceitful and manipulative business principles of enticing with illusory gains, activating every possible bell and whistle to foster the illusion of easy riches in a game cunningly stacked against the naive consumer, to maximally exploit his gullibility.

All Trump's enterprises - the 'licit' skullduggery of his casinos or the actionable shenanigans of his 'education' and real estate dealings- reveal a Barnum-esque reliance on "a sucker born every minute."

We all watch with bated breath to see whether there are enough such suckers to extend this pattern to winning the White House. It would almost be funny if so.

BTW, Teachers of America: you educated this sucker electorate (for suckered are not so much "not born but made" but 'educated'). Time for broad self-examination.
Eli (Boston, MA)
Trump is not just a crook in his financial dealing but also a degenerate in his personal life. He has cheated on ALL his wives as well. Three wives? that does not sound very Christian at all.
Andrew (NY)
Eli: I meant "my glaring ommision" (not "by") of course. Anyway, Jimmy Kimmel expressed the connection between Trump's conjugal morality and his religion: "He likes his wives like he likes his Testaments: NEW!" (the same assuredly applies to Trump girfriends and "gropes du jour".)
MikeC (New Hope PA)
You should have mentioned that 2 other polls also released today, NBC/WSJ/Marist and Gravis, show Hillary Clinton ahead in Florida by 1 point.
John D (San Diego)
Odd...when Nate has Clinton ahead, apparently no other polls need be mentioned.
MindTraffic (Chicago)
Yawn. Odd that polls occur with more frequency nearer to elections.
JY (IL)
All good points. However, I think Cohn is primarily concerned with the Upshot Poll and its credibility.
paul (blyn)
Learn from Hamilton, our founding father, and I am paraphrasing him...never underestimate the power of the demagogue...
Rick Gage (mt dora)
The fact that I, an older white guy living in Fla, can be fairly assumed to be a Trump supporter makes me want to crawl out of my, privileged, skin for the first time in my life.
CitizenTM (NYC)
You shall respectfully be excluded you from the group of deplorables.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
That's silly. I have lots of family in Florida -- most of them white -- and they are a mixed bag, of Republicans and Democrats and a few Libertarians. A couple were diehard Bernie supporters. They are all ages from 29 to 83.

Human beings are not stereotypes.

Nor are they "deplorables".
Eli (Boston, MA)
Hillary will win but it sure will be nice if she wins really really big.

The degenerate pervert has still less than 10% chance of winning.
John D (San Diego)
The bigger her margin the greater liberal disappointment will be when she governs as a moderate Republican, just like hubby.
Sharon5101 (Rockaway Beach Ny)
The only true degenerate pervert I know of is Anthony Weiner and he's not running for president. However, Weiner is the ideal ready made scapegoat should Hillary Clinton lose on November 8. How did Hillary's contested emails wind up on his server? This roller coaster of an election just gets weirder and weirder.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
If she wins....we'll have the pleasure of attacking her from Day One and working to impeach her. And we'll start on the 2020 campaign the day she is inaugurated.
John Townsend (Mexico)
Does the american electorate fathom what’s at stake with Trump as President and McConnell and Ryan in charge of Congress? White supremacists empowered to burn Mosques and black churches. Voting rights shredded across the land. The Supreme Court packed with right wing ideologues. The GOP assault on women’s rights shoved into high gear. The fossil fuel industry unchained. With the planet at a tipping point on global warming, the US withdrawing from the Paris accord. The EPA gutted. The ACA repealed. A ground war begun with Iran over some perceived insult. Taxes dramatically lowered on corporations and the super rich and with huge boosts in military spending, deficits going through the roof. In short, a disaster of unmitigated proportions from which the country and the world might never recover.
Richard Grayson (Brooklyn, NY)
Yes, it will be a disaster, but you are lucky enough to be in Mexico. I am asking my distant relatives in Mexico City if they have room for us in their nice house in Tlatelolco. I just hope I can get there before Mexico funds the wall to keep out all of us fleeing the U.S.!
Reader In Wash, DC (Washington, DC)
Why are there even mosques in this country. When in Rome...Christian churches are full of Asian immigrants. They WANT to assimilate.
MindTraffic (Chicago)
Although Italy dropped Catholicism as the official state religion just over 30 years ago, nearly 98% of Italians are baptized Catholic. Where else CAN Asian immigrants go to worship?

America has the First Amendment, and freedom of, and from, religion. That freedom doesn't exclude Muslims.
Jay Davis (NM)
Now it's Trump-Putin-Comey!

Make Russia Great Again!
Ryan Bingham (Up there)
And here we go. Trump could lock up the election simply by promising to solidify Social Security and legalize pot. He'd beat Clinton from coast to coast with those two promises, yet he can't bring himself to understand that some people live on less per month than he spends on one good dinner.
Uzi Nogueira (Florianopolis, SC)
Luckily for Hillary Clinton, and the Democratic Party, her opponent is Donald Trump. Hillary should prevail since Trump is an acquired taste.

This 2016 election will be remembered by Republicans as a winnable election lost due to the party's hostile takeover by an outsider/daring real estate mogul from New York City.
Jack M (NY)
The Creep vs the Crook. Pick your poison, America.
Eli (Boston, MA)
You really mean: The incompetent degenerate man VS the brilliant and competent woman. The choice is clear America.
Jack M (NY)
You guys already said your true opinions of her when she was running against Bernie. Clear as day. You can't just pretend months of endless vociferous NYT comments about her underhanded ways don't exist. She is the personification of big money power and establishment elitism in government. Exactly what you all claimed you desperately wanted to get rid of. Sad how far you have fallen. You want to say Trump is worse is one thing - but don't suddenly deny her obvious flaws.
Jack M (NY)
There are many brilliant and competent crooks. How the Bernie Boys have fallen.
Paul Adams (Stony Brook)
Cold shivers down my spine.
Cliff (Philadelphia, Pa.)
So 58% of white voters in Florida think Trump will be a better president (versus only 29% for Clinton)? These presumably older white retirees, most of whom are feeding from the federal trough (Social Security) might be of the greatest generation - but they are not the smartest generation. Seriously. Clinton has a huge number of flaws. But is Trump better? Our nation is in a long slow decline. A Trump presidency will deliver a knock-out punch to our democracy.
LynneW23 (greater Boston)
I agree with everything but that Clinton has a huge number of flaws. She has no more flaws than every other president, Democratic or Republican, in recent memory.
elizabeth renant (new mexico)
They paid into that "trough", as I have, over decades of working life. If the feds want to cut us all a check for every dime we paid in, including what they stole from the fund after LBJ moved it into the General Fund so no one would know what he was taking out of it to pay for Vietnam, we'll be glad to dismantle that "trough" and leave the next generations to the mercies of our skewed tax code, Wall Street's ethics, a completely changed workforce landscape with automation taking over more and more jobs . . .

And it might interest you to learn that that "trough" has been for many seniors who didn't all get to be wealthy retirees in FL the only thing between them and starvation once they could no longer work. It is the single most popular program ever passed by the government.

Your "democracy" is already being run by global corporate interests - neither Clinton nor Trump will have the power to change that. Wall Street is behaving exactly the way it did before 2008 - its lobbyists pulled the fangs from the Dodd-Frank Act, Bill Clinton signed the bill repealing Glass-Steagall.

The real "huge flaw" that Clinton has is that she will change precisely nothing in a climate where too many people want everything changed, and fast.

This is basically a contest between the status quo and . . . something else, and no one really knows what that something else is. The "better the devil you know" assumptions failed in BREXIT. A Clinton presidency will only delay the next round.
Mary Ann Donahue (NYS)
RE: "....has been for many seniors who didn't all get to be wealthy retirees in FL the only thing between them and starvation once they could no longer work. It is the single most popular program ever passed by the government." {social security}

As you wrote "A Clinton presidency will only delay the next round." which includes delaying the Republicans' continued desire to dismantle social security as we know it and hand a windfall to Wall Street. I have a hard time imagining why not rich retirees in Florida would want Trump elected.
Ed Smith (Concord NH)
Now that it looks like Hillary is going to jail after the election one way or the other, I am going to sit this election out.
Ellen (Connecticut)
I hope you realize that the only one of the two major party candidates who has a court date after the election is Donald Trump--for sexual assault of a minor. Hillary has been charged with nothing despite years of effort on the GOP's part.
Eli (Boston, MA)
Trump will go to jail for defrauding hundreds his fake "university". It is amazing he has escaped conviction by defrauding thousands with his six calculated bankruptcies. And no Hillary Clinton will be elected.
GMooG (LA)
The Trump University case is civil, not criminal.