Roger Stone Is Sentenced to Over 3 Years in Prison

The sentencing played out amid extraordinary upheaval at the Justice Department and a virtual standoff between the president and the attorney general.

Comments: 205

  1. Yawn. This “virtual standoff” between the AG and Trump is sound and fury, signifying nothing - sheer political theater to make Barr look as if he’s got a spine and Trump look as if he’s got rationality. Neither is true, but they distract from other misdeeds and missteps and keep Trump’s base engaged, which has been Trump’s MO since he started.

  2. @Bob Bunsen I agree completely. Barr's protests boil down to "I can't do trump's bidding if he's publicly asking me to do his bidding." I'll believe Barr when he resigns - this is poor theater.

  3. @Bob Bunsen Absolutely, it's all a reality show with Jared Kushner now in charge of pardons. Who knows who will get the next break.

  4. @Bob Bunsen BAM— you nailed it. Nonetheless, despite adding to the TV drama, the calls for Barr’s resignation by former and current DOJ officials are not only appropriate but ethically required. Let the Trump supporters cry “deep state”; better that than allowing the shallow state— Trump and Barr— to turn DOJ into a White House goon squad and eviscerate the sacred value of “equal in the eyes of the law.”

  5. Is Roger Stone carrying a bible in that photo? If so, I hope he’s granted plenty of time to study his scripture. Maybe he can have a new career as an Tele-Evangelical. He’s got the right set of morals.

  6. Regardless of the amount of time, Trump will scream it is a travesty.

  7. Such an obvious villain who will obviously be pardoned by his ally in the White House.

  8. He threatened a federal judge, and intimidated witnesses. He is a NYC mob member with close ties to its leadership. The mob capo’s tweets are meant to intimidate the judge and his connections to the DOJ have corrupted the process already. She should exercise her independence and give Stone the max.

  9. Lying to Congress. That's a crime? Since when?

  10. Since 18 U.S. Code § 1001 was enacted?

  11. @Dubious ... what year?

  12. I hope Stone is sentenced to 9 years just to spite Trump foe all his pettiness.

  13. The vintage dolly on Stone’s arm will miss the media attention. I notice she’s always there (I assume wife) and she’s always making sure the paparazzi notice her. Stone is, as I read from another commenter so descriptively state on this site, nothing more than a “geriatric gadfly.”

  14. Not signifying nothing. Roger Stone is all that is horrible about politics. Lying cheating gloating. A mere drop in the bucket of malfeasance, perhaps with all that is going on, and it may seem like his trial and sentencing is all for naught, but by golly, it is something at least. Liars, cheaters, political gamesters— we have to keep trying to hold them accountable. Or else, what?

  15. Throw the book at Stone today. Hand him the Maximum sentence!

  16. Putin-esque corruption, using the legal system to advance the president’s personal interest. It’s like Russia is annexing us (US).

  17. The justice department of the United States no longer exists.

  18. Barr's little play is so transparent that no one within a hundred miles of DC would expect Barr to take a hike because the president interferes with his job performance. For Pete's sakes, this guy have been doing Trump's bidding for a year now. in 12 months, he's shredded his own department, kneecapped his own corps of prosecutors, Withheld evidence from Congress, and all but anointed his boss as Emperor. And now, he complains about not being able to do his job? Puh-leeze! I'd bet some serious money on Barr staying exactly where he is until he's thrown out, along with his boss.

  19. Let justice be served. And this man deserves prison time. There is no doubt that the judge will perform well that which she has sworn to God to do with integrity and wisdom. However, Stone’s fate is dependent upon his friend in the White House. My guess is that Mr. Trump will stay true and faithful to his flawed and diseased soul. That is that Stone will be pardoned with not a word of dissent from Trump’s abetters in all that is amoral, to wit, Barr and McConnell Incorporated.

  20. Roger Stone has put the judge's face in the bullseye on social media, broken all her directives, and smiled through the entire episode. It has made him more famous, and he always knew his pal would have to pardon him or he'd tell the world what he knows about him. Trump's rash of pardons of convicted and remorseless felons this week was just a cover and a bunch of stinking red herrings. I pray every day the Democrats take back our country before it's too late.

  21. Another excuse to let a criminal out of jail. What cabinet positions will all these criminals be handed?

  22. It's fun to actually live in a graphic novel country. That's what's happening, right?

  23. 45 for Roger, an homage.

  24. Roger Stone, a hack who has led a worthless life being the equivalent of hit man for political campaigns and a general waste of skin finally got caught. But of course he's Trump's friend, so no jail time for him, according to Trump. That is sort of swampy behavior for the great drainer of swamps. He must have several of Trump's skeletons buried in his basement for Trump to make this particular friend such a priority...

  25. Eventually, of course, like in all countries without a robust, independent, liberated justice system, the streets will clog up with protesters and, at its worst, blood. Everyone has a limit.

  26. WHY is the justice department not independent from the whims of individual administrations??? From what i understand so far, it seems that the president does indeed have the right to dictate how the department operates, and to basically do "whatever he wants" with regards to how the law is administered on a federal level, in the US of A. Is this a "loophole" deliberately created by the Founding Fathers, or is it simply an oversight on their part: perhaps they didn't imagine that a national leader fairly elected by a "well educated citizens" would dare to take the law into his or her own hands, and use the "justice" system to settle political scores. Whatever the Constitutional Framers tried to create, they certainly seem to have dropped the ball on this rather important issue and now the country has another fine mess to try and clean up - initially by removing the primary cause of the mess from office, but in the longer run, i think a can of worms has been opened that may prove difficult to manage in the coming years and decades. Thanks again, Herr Trump and your rabid "base" of enablers!! The Free World just became a bit less free.

  27. @Joseph Ross Mayhew In the-end-of course after the president, the Justice Department, the Congress, the courts, have done their 'work' it goes to the 'final arbiters'. We vote.

  28. @Joseph Ross Mayhew , It is supposed to be. Our Nation and the rule of law is in serious trouble.

  29. trump has violated the Ten Commandments multiple time; however, the only matter trump has yet to figure out is how to put someone in jail. He has conceded that he does not have the ability to simply order someone to jail and thus far Barr has not used the office of the Attorney General to take someone into custody upon trumps orders. As a result, trumps only recourse to let criminal out of jail

  30. @Allen82 Oh, he'll be putting people in jail soon enough. With Barr's help. Count on it.

  31. There is a glaring hypocrisy evident with respect to the Fox News commentators and Trump: They decry the “process crimes” of Roger Stone as not being worthy of prosecution, while this same cohort is absolutely irate that Andrew McCabe was not prosecuted for in essence lying to investigators - the quintessential process crime - and Hilary Clinton was not prosecuted for obstruction for her aide running BleachBit on her computer drive - obstruction being another quintessential process crime. The reason obstruction of justice, false statements to investigators, etc. are criminalized is that otherwise criminals would be free to impede investigations and prosecutions by destroying evidence, etc. This decision to make such actions - ones designed to protect underlying criminal activity - criminal themselves is embedded in US law as passed by Congress. For Trump and the Fox commentators to seek to delegitimize such criminal statutes - which serve to protect the American people - is to invite a lawlessness into society.

  32. Lawlessness is already here. Lawlessness, thy name is Trump.

  33. @Peter Now that you put it like that, perhaps he’s in line for a Medal of Freedom. What they heck, why not make it the Medal of Honor — he’s been battling for Truth, Justice and The American Way for all these years. A real hero.

  34. I don't know Judge Berman but I have known quite few federal judges and am very confident the she will impose sentence as if this Trump and Barr dog and pony show had never taken place. That will leave Trump with two choices. He can gut up and recognize the unique and solemn authority of the federal courts, thus foregoing the emotional high that he gets from exercising power and basking in the praise of media syncophants. Or he can yield as usual to his childish needs and base instincts, digging an ever deeper hole into which the judgment of history will cast him. My bet is on the latter. He may not act immediately but there is a vanishingly slight likelihood that Stone will serve the full term that will be meted out to him. Even so, it will be Judge Berman and not Trump who will be honored long after the dust has settled.

  35. I don’t understand why Trump and Barr are contesting this sentencing when everyone knows that Trump will simply pardon Stone no matter what. In fact, I’m curious why he hasn’t pardoned Manafort and Flynn yet. There seems to be no method to the madness.

  36. He won’t pardon any of them, because he cannot afford to. They would be forced to tell the truth which would sink him.

  37. how can you lend credence (" a virtual standoff between the president and Attorney General William P. Barr over Mr. Trump’s comments about the case.") to a cold-blooded ploy between co-conspirators against the rule of law itself?

  38. There’s no question that Roger Stone is smarter and more savvy than his long-time, amoral collaborator Trump. (Admittedly the bar is not terribly high.) Stone had to know that, given the incontrovertible, overwhelming evidence against him, he had a choice: cooperate with investigators and prosecutors in return for some degree of immunity (assuming it was offered to him) or, take steps to insure that his silence (and/or theatrical obfuscation) would guarantee him a full and unconditional presidential pardon for any and all crimes he committed. So why would Stone expect an erratic, narcissistic man, loyal to no one but himself, to protect him? Perhaps because Trump knows that his “friend” has first-hand knowledge (and likely evidence) of Trump crimes and indiscretions going back decades. But, perhaps even more importantly, Trump understands that, if betrayed, Stone, a man much like himself, will do whatever he needs to do to save himself.

  39. History is full of conspirators and courtiers who are surprised to find out that their loyalty to the mob boss or king is not rewarded. They see plenty of fellows thrown under a bus but think they are immune to betrayal until it is too late.

  40. @Yeah Probably true per history, but I think Stone will soon be rewarded and so will not be included in the group having been thrown under the bus.

  41. The couple looks like they are going to a party, relaxed, smiles et all -not the state of mind of people about to learn a long prison sentence. Well, I’m a way, they are: they know no matter the severity of the sentence the president will pardon him. Interesting times we are living.

  42. Barr would only like the president to issue his directives in private. That’s the only controversy.

  43. Hmmm, let me guess: Will it be an absurd tap on the wrist, or a meaningful sentence soon to be made irrelevant by a convenient pardon?

  44. There is no "stand off" between Barr and Trump. That is political theater. The real stand off is between Barr and the almost all of those working in the Justice Dept and judges across the Country. And of course, now that Trump has said Stone was unfairly treated, it gives him some breathing room to pardon Stone if the sentence isn't to his liking. With this debacle and Trump's recent spate of pardons and commutations, clearly the White House is now intent on making white collar crime acceptable to his base.

  45. we usually don't follow the advice of our parents and we should. "Pick your friends carefully."

  46. Oh, Barr is one of the actors on the Reality Show. He'd have had the FBI, entire staff of Justice, plus all non-Trump judges, exiled to Devil's Island, if he could get away with it. I love the phrase "victim of a vendetta by law enforcement," which could be Trump's family motto. There isn't a Trump not guilty as sin and not committed to subvert justice.

  47. The US government was trying to determine whether or not the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. Roger Stone was one of the few people who knew most if not all of the story, but instead he chose to lie and intimidate other potential witnesses to protect Donald Trump. Stone refused to tell the truth, and has potentially subjected this country to another round of international interference in 2020. Let Trump and Barr dangle pardons and complaints about "unfairness" all they want. The man belongs in jail. As do his co-conspirators.

  48. After pardoning Stone, Trump will hang the medal of freedom around his neck... which will be an absolutely stunning counterpoint to the portrait of Nixon Stone has tattooed on his back.

  49. Although his next set may not be so well tailored, Stone always appeared dapper in gray and navy pinstripes.

  50. @warrior ant press Let's hope orange is his new gray.

  51. Mr.Stone lied to try to protect Trump-Barr dismissed the sentencing memorandum of Justice Department prosecutors to please Trump.Trump attacked jurors and the judge to impress his supporters.Judge Amy Bergman Jackson is the only hope for truth and justice-I trust her to uphold the law .She has been a distinguished District Court Judge for nine years-she has ruled in other high profile decisions-she will stand for Law even though Trump and Barr will not.

  52. Much of this feels like it’s setting up the backstory for an early pardon, nothing more. Let’s hope that some state charges come next to augment the federal ones, bypassing the presidential pardon.

  53. What does this matter? Stone will be pardoned by Trump. The pardons this week were only trial balloons...and since there were no consequences (for Trump), Stone will certainly receive a pardon.

  54. Wrong. He pardoned people who cannot hurt him. A pardoned .stone, however, is forced to tell the truth. Exit Trump.

  55. @Irene Stone will probably be pardoned by Trump-after being found guilty of a number of felonies. How do you think this doesn't matter? This situation further damages both the president and his jester. If they think they have 'gotten away' with something-they should think again.

  56. @Chuck Burton Wrong. He's not forced to tell anything.

  57. The presiding federal judge has the singular capacity to define the sentence length. Let's see what she does: for this situation has a host of aspects and constitutes the most critical moment in her career overall. In short, will Judge Amy Berman Jackson be known henceforth for sustaining the justice and balance of our legal system? If so, it will be a major step toward restoration of the negative pattern of egregious judicial abuses beset upon our nation by Donald Trump.

  58. @forgetaboutit She may do the right thing but trump will over ride it because he can "do anything he wants".

  59. That picture is very unnerving. A convicted criminal and his wife all smiles as they arrive for his sentencing to federal prison. They're smiling because they know, as we all do, that the conviction and sentence will soon be wiped away by a man who sees himself and his friends as above the law. I think the only unknown in all of this is how soon will it be done? In other words, how badly does Trump want to assert his dominance over all of us and our puny "laws"? A pardon later today would signal maximum dominance but maybe Trump wouldn't want to elevate Stone's stature so quickly. Guess we're on a need-to-know basis anyhow...

  60. @Lionel Hutz Exactly correct. That is the look of a man who knows the fix is in. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

  61. @Lionel Hutz We are being played like a drum.

  62. @Lionel Hutz Question: How long will it be before Trump will assert that since he is above the law anything done for him by others is not illegal?

  63. Judge Amy has obviously presided over the whole case of Roger Stone She has observed and note the presented arguments ,evidence and cases made in a professional objective manner .Although it is the Jury that indicate yeah or nay , she has her own opinion from what she has seen taken place . She has a number of options but she must uphold the due respect for the Judicial system and those who make up such a system and do so for non politically biased reasons . I think she will take into account , the recent advanced argument from the defence council . She may also pass comment as to clearly intended interference by the President and that if there was not a robust fair judiciary ,there would be anarchy , that the Conviction Still holds even if one jurist vote was discounted ..she will therefore sentence Stone to the appropriate time in prison and that mr Stone will be taken into custody immediately . Mr Stone does the right to appeal if there is an objective reason for such , but he may do so from prison . Trump will go ballistic .The Judiciary will stand firm and then the AG and the Supreme Court will be called out in terms of what they truly represent .

  64. Trump is just going to pardon Stone anyway.

  65. And donnie will pardon him they all can live happily ever after we are dead and gone from republicans denying climate emergencies.

  66. @Mandarine That’s how I console myself: the knowledge that Climate Change will take them out along with the rest of us. I guess I’ll take a bit of peace of mind wherever & whenever I can.

  67. Many just want to see the disdain and smirk wiped off Roger Stone’s face. [And the same goes for Trump.]

  68. @srwdm "I'm not ashamed to admit it. When we arrived to prison, I was absolutely terrified. But I needn't have been. See, for a brief fleeting moment, I'd forgotten I was rich and I lived in a place where everything was for sale. " - Jordan Belfort (Leonardo DiCaprio), The Wolf of Wall Street (2013, Dir. Scorsese)

  69. @srwdm-I would like to know what goods Roger Stone has on Trump? Watching Trump become unnerved through Stone's sentencing, says Stone has a lot of dirt on Trump.

  70. It really doesn't matter what Judge Jackson sentences Stone to, trump will pardon tomorrow or later today. He can't let a liar, cheat, & con man go to jail on his watch. Stone's next position will be a cabinet post in the trump dictatorship.

  71. No matter what Judge Amy Bergman Jackson does, Trump is going to pardon Roger Stone. That is another knife through the heart of our democracy.....

  72. The photo says it all as Stone and his wife are smiling as they go into court knowing it's all a game and they are winning. A pardon will be forthcoming now that Jared Kushner is in charge of pardons.

  73. I wonder what Mrs. Stone is getting out of this? Prior to Stone’s arrest, I can’t recall ever seeing her with him. They were living apart for quite a while in south Florida. She was at his rented house in Fort Lauderdale the morning of his arrest, though. I wonder if his attorney suggested that when it became clear he was likely to be indicted. That way there could be sympathy for both of them when they were roused out of bed in the early hours of the morning for his arrest. Does anyone know much about their relationship?

  74. "After the hearing began, Mr. Trump again criticized the case as unfair, accusing two former F.B.I. officials, the former director James B. Comey and a former deputy director, Andrew G. McCabe, of crimes that have not been charged or prosecuted." Sure. Convictions with documented evidence and charges by juries covering him and his pals are "unfair.". While accusations of wrongdoing by this unhinged man, resulting in no charges or. prosecutions are totally fair. Only in Trump's America.

  75. @ChristineMcM "Unfair", the plaintive cry of one prospective plaintiff - or that of a tyrannical, overindulged chid. Actually both.

  76. @ChristineMcM ‘Only in Trump’s America’. Wow. Looking on from outside the US – despite closely following everything that has happened since his elevation to the highest office in the land – it is still stunning to hear this phrase. It can’t just be business as usual when he is dethroned this fall; I think Americans have to take a very serious look at how this interloper was installed and has been able to assume the cloak of dictatorship and mutate much of what is sacrosanct to your Republic.

  77. @Jazzie: "when he is dethroned this fall?" You have to be kidding! There is an excellent chance he'll be reelected. In fact, watching the Democratic debate last night, I'd say it's his to lose. We simply do not have a winning candidate, one that not only stands out but will have the solid support of the majority of the country.

  78. Judge Berman should follow the Prosecutors' recommendations. They said 7 to 9 years. Make it 9. Trump will pardon Stone anyway, but at least the principle of following Prosecutors' recommendations will be upheld.

  79. @JWMathews The prosecutors' recommendations are always extremely severe and reflect the maximum sentence. The judge's task is to fashion an appropriate and just sentence. There is no "principle of following Prosecutors' recommendations."

  80. @JWMathews "Nine years and one day!" Just to make a point.

  81. @JWMathews - I would like to see the judge go with something like two years, or even one. If Trump is inclined to pardon Stone because he argues the sentence is "excessive," this puts him in a real bind.

  82. If Trump and his associates did nothing wrong during the 2016 election campaign, then why all the lying, obstruction of justice and cover up of their deeds? Not exactly the actions of innocent people.

  83. What is the over/under on number of days it takes Trump to give crony Roger Stone a pardon? Has Vegas set the line yet? I’d say 14, which very well might be on the high side. Criminal lies to protect his benefactor, knowing he will be pardoned. We are officially a Banana Republic.

  84. Bill Barr's complaints against his boss the president are not in protest to Trump's actions, but only that he has done so publicly. I guess private corruption is much more acceptable in the Trump administration than that which is done in public though how much more it could blacken Trump and Barr's name is hard to imagine. In any case corruption and Trumpian power grabs are perfectly acceptable to Trump's base and that to Trump is what matters.

  85. Judge Jackson is in a real difficult position, if she gives Stone the sentence he deserves Trump and his allies will call it a crime when in reality it's the right thing to do. Her career while Trump is in office will be ruined and in the end Trump will pardon Stone. The true crime is the one sitting in the White House.

  86. I could only chuckle when I read that Stone will be sentenced today. So what? It really doesn't matter what sentence he draws, whether it's 7 to 9 years or 7 to 9 days. Donald Trump is already getting his Pardon Pen poised and ready for his bud. And when asked recently if he was considering pardoning Stone, Donald Trump's answer was as disingenuous as ever: he hasn't given it any thought. Well, that's true - he doesn't give much of anything any thought. But he will pardon Stone. Elections do matter.

  87. @Len And appoint Stone to a cabinet post, doubtlessly.

  88. Sounds like the new prosecutors are arguing the original sentencing range, contrary to Barr’s lesser recommendation, and that the judge agrees based on Stone’s deadly threats and his obstruction. The judge said Stone’s obstruction “led to an inaccurate, incorrect and incomplete report” from the House on Russia, Wikileaks, and the Trump campaign.

  89. The smiles and the over-the-top outfits indicate to me that Stone and his entourage believe, perhaps rightly so, that they are attending his coronation as the King of Gutter Politics. Only in America could someone so offensive find a large enough audience to thrive. Perhaps his Wikileaks co-conspirator, Julian Assange, will drop something to the media that spoils Stone’s upcoming victory tour. One can still hope that there is some justice left in the world that can bring this political felon to heel.

  90. He’s smiling now. But he won’t be after judge Amy throws the book at him.

  91. I'm hoping the judge gives Stone a strong sentence, then Trump announces Stone's pardon on Twitter. This will further infuriate and energize most federal judges to stop Trump. The judges emergency meeting this week is just the first step of this process. The judiciary has both the power and the will (unlike the Democrats) to enforce subpoenas using Federal Marshals. Let Trump try to override this, and we can start the endgame to this stain on Democracy and government.

  92. Which will happen first - Trump's pardon of Stone or the Republican ads accusing Democrats of being soft on crime? Another needed fix for our decaying Constitution: Presidents shouldn't be able to give out pardons like Halloween candy.

  93. Today's sentencing will probably be a mere formality in the life of Roger Stone. His grin along with his attire strongly suggests the "fix" is in and his longtime pal, Donnie Trump, will issue a presidential pardon. Stone will be out of court faster than the ink can dry on the pardon. Not expecting anything magical nor just today, only another typical Trump "I can do whatever I want" kind of day. Depressing and equally scary.

  94. @Marge Keller Yup! You can say that again!

  95. Stone will serve less than a year. He will be pardoned by next January, regardless of the outcome of the election.

  96. Whether the Judge sentences Stone to one day of 100 years, i won't matter. Trump will pardon his before the ink is dried on the sentencing order. Trump and the republicans are destroying not merely American justice but the whole fabric of American Democracy and the Rule of Law.

  97. It's incredible the way Trump engages in outrage after outrage where there is no recourse from the moral center of this nation to address them. How did any one person get so much power? George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower are spinning in their graves.

  98. The only saving grace of accepting one of these or any pardon is the admission of guilt. That does not go away.

  99. @Carlton James Yes, but in Trump and Stone's minds, that's just a pesky little technicality.

  100. Trump will pardon Stone. In a just, rule of law world Stone will be charged, convicted, and imprisoned by a state in which his crimes were committed.

  101. Now would be a good time for WikiLeaks to release it's cache of documents related to Roger Stones involvement in the 2016 election.

  102. @mjc WikiLeaks won't release said documents because Julian Assange is awaiting a pardon from Trump too. Remember Trump loves WikiLeaks.

  103. I think you’ve missed which side Wikileaks is on.

  104. Now that the republican congress has given Trump carte blanche to continue to be a criminal, it is only a matter of time before he pardons Stone or reduces it to a slap on the wrist. Trump has turned the swamp Washington into a toxic waste dump.

  105. @Paul Wading into the swamp, through muck and mire, the Orange Goblin, Necronomicon in hand, summons demons to salt and devour the lands.

  106. The photo of the smiling Stone look as if he is going to a pardon party rather than to prison.

  107. Roger Stone is laughing at us all because finally he and Trump won. Trump is his own Roy Cohn. No other half civilized country would tolerate what we have become. This has no parallel. A country as ours, a free democratic country for over 250 years can be changed in less than 4 years is mind boggling. Now law and freedom is what one man thinks it is. Is our constitution that gives so much power in the hands of one individual really as good as we have been told? I doubt it

  108. He’ll get time served and a medal.

  109. Go ahead, keep tweeting. Your cronies get harsher treatment when you tweet. You lose support for your reelection when you tweet. Your eventual prison term will be longer because you tweet. History will record that you lost the 2020 election because of your tweeting. Go ahead, keep tweeting.

  110. Why doesn't the NYT FOIA the DOJ's Office of Professional Responsibility for statistics regarding complaints filed, investigations undertaken etc.? My impression is that other than Senator Ted Stevens, where prosecutors were found to have withheld evidence, the OPR has never investigated any complaints. I have a nonpublic letter from OPR to the office of an acting assistant attorney general that says that they didn't investigate my complaint because it alleged what was essentially perjury by an assistant U.S. attorney in federal court and because they have a lot of other complaints and don't want to set a precedence of investigating them.

  111. Look at Roger Stone! Doesn’t he look dandy! Looks to me like He’s in command He’s a man, he’s been convicted For lying under oath Now awaiting sentencing I’ll be very offended if His sentence gets suspended

  112. @Very Confused What? Over 3 years? But.... Trump ... Pardon?

  113. I think I figured out what the pardons of Governor B. and the other over-privileged crooks was all about—this was to set the stage for the pardons of Stone and possibly Flynn and other cronies. This will be Trump’s argument: “The corrupt deep state unfairly targets courageous people like my bestie Roger who are fighting for freedom. Fortunately I’m willing to bring justice. I did this for the Democratic Governor of Illinois. How can I then deny justice to my own peeps?”

  114. It seems Stone has a lot of info about Trump and Russia and wlkileaks. Manaforts partner Gates reports hearing Stone and trump discussing the Russia=Wikileaks connection . I think Trump needs to do all he can to keep Stone quiet. Yes the sentence guidelines for 7 felonies were being followed as usual. Imagine if it were Hillary and they were able to sentence.

  115. if pardoned, the house should immediately subpoena Stone to testify about his lies regarding the 2016 election, wikileaks, etc.

  116. An appalling collection of broken toys.

  117. "Scusate," but photo of Roger STONE, dressed to the nines with that fancy fedora reminds one of a Mafia don, which he is not, but a great journalist--read his exposes of Clinton and Bush crime families and his obra magister on alleged complicity of LBJ in killing of JFK--and a deep thinker.Believe Stone is milking the publicity for all it's worth, and is enjoying his "place au soleil!"Hunch that president will grant him a pardon despite the sentence! Reminds me of Mario Hirsch, a face from the 1970's who was often seen on t.v.declaring that he was going out of business, everything had to go, but Hirsch was always up, always optimistic. So when I think of Stone and his Panglossian attitude towards life, I think also of Mario Hirsch,always upbeat and positive.

  118. If the maximum is nine years, then he should be sentenced to nine years and one day. Throw down the gauntlet and let Don Don respond.

  119. Can the NYTs please look into this statement from CNN website: "More than 100 people are in the courthouse ahead of the Roger Stone sentencing this morning, with a long line snaking down the hall outside the courtroom. Stone came in with an entourage, including at least five of his lawyers, some of his friends and his supporters, and members of the right-wing group the Proud Boys." The implications are obvious and what dems should be talking about.

  120. In law enforcement circles I have heard the "he was sentenced by a higher authority".

  121. As important as Criminal Stone's ultimate sentence is (should be the maximum; at the least, very close) is how Judge Amy Berman Jackson will conduct herself and adhere to the rule of law. She should vote her conscience. Translation: She should give no quarter to Trump and Barr.

  122. If Trump thinks of himself as head of the Justice Department (I can interfere in any case I want) then could he not be held in contempt by Judge Berman for vilifying her? Wouldn't that be an interesting case for the Supreme Court!

  123. Not sure how and why the length of his sentence matters at this point; Trump will pardon him before (or for) Christmas.

  124. The judge should give him 7-9 years. If Barr/Trump wants to circumvent the law, then it's on them--Judge Berman will have done her job.

  125. What standoff between the AG and trump? Smoke and mirrors! They’re arm and arm. Just because tweets spread light on Barr’s machinations and make him uncomfortable, that doesn’t mean the guy is repentant about his meddling in cases he has no business meddling in. Barr won’t resign. Like his boss, he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. He needs to be impeached.

  126. Trump: "So unfair. They all go after a friend of mine just because he committed illegal acts in furtherance of my election. So unfair." So far Judge Jackson seems like a disciplined, take-charge judge who will not be bullied by Trump. Yes, he will pardon his fellow criminal; let him. But let Judge Amy Brennan Jackson do the right thing.

  127. I wonder if the members of the jury can expect retribution for what DJT called their "miscarriage of justice". That would certainly dampen citizens, "peers", willingness to serve on juries.

  128. @Edd Any act or utterance by Trump is at its core meant as an attack on our system of government and any ability by the other branches to rein him in. The pardoning of fraudsters like himself, the calling out of judges and jurors, and pronouncing the fair trial of his crony/bagman a miscarriage of justice... it's just his latest volley in the battle to delegitimize our judicial system in the minds of voters.

  129. @Edd someone stated that yesterday; that people are always trying to get out of jury duty. this will only make it worse when people on the jury are getting threats. what trump has been saying is threatening.

  130. Must be nice to know you can commit any federal crime on the books, and that your pal in the White House will pardon you. Ain't Trump Justice grand?

  131. Start the pardon countdown clock...

  132. @Patrick Henry Wrong clock. Stone will never be pardoned, that would give him utter immunity ( for federal crimes (and maybe even state crimes, there is going to be a test case for constitutionality before SCOTUS I am sure). The countdown clock is for commutation. Stone may have to do a day in jail, but then it will be commuted to "time served". No future prosecutor could compel self-incriminating testimony with a commutation.

  133. @Patrick Henry that was 100% my first thought. At this point anything goes.

  134. @JudyLa He won't be pardoned his sentence will be commuted to time served.

  135. Caption under photo SHOULD read: "Why is this man smiling?"

  136. The Banana Republic of D.J. Trump.....

  137. What are the chances that Bill Barr, a phony bologna to the core, will resign after this fiasco? Last week didn’t he tell his friends he had had enough of a Trump’s stupid tweets? Alas, that was last week and this is this week.

  138. oh gee...the circus is in town, and the clown has brought in a clown posse...Trump has the pardon on his desk, executable immediately after pardoned and commuted a ton of white collar criminals ...this will seem like nothing compared to what is to come

  139. It's discouraging to see the media fall into the "Barr vs. Trump" open manhole. The collusion is so obvious, even a cavemen can see it. This caveman.

  140. @Tom Wilson Thus confirming that cavemen are smarter than the media!

  141. If Trump pardons Stone, everyone in the DOJ should resign en masse. BTW, a shout-out to Judge Amy Jackson Berman, for standing tall through all of this. She's managed to fulfill her responsibilities without being diverted by the unappetizing side show.

  142. @D Price I'm not holding my breath for Barr to go anywhere. Unless he is replaced by an even bigger Trump toady--e.g., Jeanine Pirro.

  143. @D Price I think Trump would love it if everyone in the DOJ resigned en masse. Then the puppet show would be complete.

  144. @D Price No shout out here to Judge Jackson; she did not apply sentencing guidelines, which would have spoken much louder than any of her words of rebuke.

  145. Much ado about nothing. Rodger Stone has always been a third rate actor in the swamps of DC. Even the alligators are turning their noses up at the porcine feast . Mr. & Mrs. Stone are two tons of androgynous fun.

  146. Dear Republicans, What happened to all of that trusting jury verdicts handed down by juries comprised of Americans? Weren’t you supposed to be the party of law and order? Funny how willing you are to throw hundreds of years of legal precedent in the trash can for the sake of political expediency in the year 2020.

  147. It's being reported that the judge noted this morning that the original sentencing recommendation from the prosecution had not been withdrawn, despite all the Trump/Barr-induced hoopla. LOL! I guess that's what happens when you p.o. the prosecutors and they all quit and you're too busy tweeting and giving interviews to notice that the ball has been dropped and no one has picked it up.

  148. Stone sure knows how to dress.I would like to have all the money he has spent on clothes.

  149. The judge should impose a sentence reflecting the seriousness of the charges that a jury of the defendant's peers found him to be guilty of. The sentencing guidelines call for a sentence of approximately 7 to 9 years. Remarkably, the AG and potus both near simultaneously without any communications between them decided the recommended sentence was too harsh. The judge has a reputation of being a fair sentencer. She doesn't overly punish and she will take into consideration all the possible reasons how to tailor a sentence for this elderly first offender. Personally, I agree the 7 to 9 year sentencing guideline recommendation is much too severe and maybe the AG and potus can use this case for doing away with the sadistic sentencing guidelines all together. A nice executive order striking down the sentencing guidelines would be perfect. The appropriate sentence me thinks should be one of incarceration but one of a much shorter duration. A sentence of say a year and one day ( in actuality maybe 7 months in prison), Roger would be out before Christmas. Heck who could complain about that? The AG would be appeased and potus would be happier than a pig in a mud hole. If Roger has a problem with such a light sentence then ain't that too bad.

  150. @david yeah because posing photos of your judge with a scope trained on them is just a funny prank. Threatening other witnesses is not a big deal. lying to Congress is not big deal And of course obstructing Congressional investigations is no big deal.. of course made up lies about Clinton and sex-ring in a pizza parlor are all legitimate reasons to change lock her up and demand yet another investigation into a person the ELECTED REPUBLICANS have repeatedly cleared of wrong doing.

  151. Trump has slandered the jury forewoman, a private citizen and should be held accountable legally. What a perversion of everything one would expect of a president.

  152. A standoff between Trump and Barr? That's preposterous. More like Barr meekly whining he wishes Trump would stop making the work of a coverup all the much harder. Anyone who buys Barr's explanation for redoing the sentencing memorandum for Stone would believe anything. Barr is an insult to everything, and no one should construe his fretting about his boss's tweets as a moment of having a spine. Barr will stay put, shut up and continue to be the lying, mild mannered henchman who wipes his feet on the 14th amendment's equal protection clause, while blowing his nose with the rest of the Constitution. On top of all this, Barr's actions under Trump would lead even the most ignorant of laymen to conclude the sitting attorney general is clueless on matters of law. Because if he were clear about it, Barr would be gone, or would never have taken the gig in the first place.

  153. Pardon time! The kabuki between Trump and Barr continues. Meanwhile, convicted criminals loosed upon the US are fattening Trump’s pockets. As it should be in any third world dictatorship like the USA.

  154. As a retired New York Police Department Sergeant, watching the Nation's laws thwarted by President Trump is sickening. The question is not whether Roger Stone will be pardoned, but when.

  155. @Derrick Yet he has the backing of so many in law enforcement. They laugh at his jokes about roughing up people.

  156. @Another one You’re absolutely right. I would love to know what exactly, is so funny about roughing up prisoners; absolutely dangerous, as well as sickening.

  157. Roger Stone is textbook, fantastically villainess, yet movie-quality in chaotic living color. He might as well live the remainder of his life as a Trump lapdog. But, I think Roger is ill-breed and bad company and Trump cannot tolerate him.

  158. The question of how that jury foreperson ended up on the jury must be addressed before we can know whether Stone received a fair trial. Did Stone’s lawyer fail to do their homework? Did the judge or prosecutors know more about that juror than they have revealed? Did the juror tell the truth when asked about her background and potential bias? If the FBI’s misrepresentations to the FISA Court reveal anything, it is that the criminal justice system is not fair to defendants—even upper middle class white males.

  159. @ehillesum you are assuming all the stuff Trump is saying about her is true! Based on what??

  160. @ehillesum it is stones attorneys who are to vet in selection process. if they didn't it is on them.

  161. It is impossible to seat a truly unbiased jury in such a high profile case in such a politically divided county. I'm sure there were Trump-friendly jurors as well; Stone was represented by the best attorneys money can buy. The forewoman ought to have kept her mouth shut, but the fact that she didn't doesn't mean the verdict was compromised.

  162. Trump has no qualms about using and discarding people so his intricate crusade to justify the coming pardons of Stone, Manafort, and Flynn begs the question: what do they have on Trump? Look at Stone: he’s smiling! That’s a man who knows he’ll be fine.

  163. Trump has been impeached and his cronies have all been found guilty of crimes. Trump will bear the stain of impeachment for the rest of his life and Stone has been exposed as a low life criminal who threatened a witness and Federal Judge. No sentence, jail time or pardon will change that.

  164. In the photo Stone and his girlfriend have that look of the knowledge that the fix is in. Like the look of Trump whenever he says let’s see what the Senate or Supreme Court has to say about his impeachment or immigration policies.

  165. Take a good look at what you have done Senators. By leaving in place this man, you have destroyed the rule of law in America, the only real thing of value you had left.

  166. @John David James To clarify, Republican Senators. Please don't include those who voted correctly.

  167. Senators don't really care. In fact, they now know who they need to go to if they get caught wrongdoing.

  168. @John David James What do the spineless Republican Senators care? Sure, they are irrelevant, but they can keep their government salary, pensions, and healthcare. They just need to keep their lips firmly planted on Trump's behind.

  169. Regardless of the sentence Judge Jackson may justly deliver, it will be neither engraved nor set in stone if Trump gets his way. Some days I wonder why I even bother to get out of bed.

  170. It is greatly distressing to see our nation torn apart and the Rule of Law and shredding of the Constitution proceeding with impunity. It is important to raise our voices in protest. At the same time I am 70. Most of my life has played out, my daughter has grown up, my grandchildren are growing. I choose to live in a beautiful, friendly and PEACEFUL place where people do not parade their divisions and do get along in great harmony. There is nothing, not even a strutting tyrant and lifetime hardened criminal, which will keep me from greeting each new day as a blessing to be embraced with gusto and gratitude.

  171. @Marge Keller because someday he will be way or another (another cheeseburger or ten) and the sooner the better. And in the meantime, you have to keep going!

  172. @Marge Keller You can stay in bed as long as you want if you continue to send in comments!

  173. A whole lot of attention to a criminal proceeding with a predetermined ending. Stone lived by the code. Silence. Never explain. Never complain. Unqualified personal loyalty and fealty to the boss. And Trump will reward silence and loyalty in the best way possible. A full pardon for Stone. Who cares about the length of the sentence? A slam dunk for Stone. No jail for Stone.

  174. @Milton Lewis And will put Stone on our payroll.

  175. @Milton Lewis The sentence still matters. The judge did not back down. The judiciary is there for a reason and Trump's power will be checked even if it doesn't seem that way now.

  176. Trump's jury tampering should be investigated. No matter how much and how loud he howls. He is STILL not king, not above the law. And he should pay.

  177. @Kay Johnson He is if the criminal Republicans in the Senate enable him. But they are betraying their oath of office and the country, and need to be prosecuted. The rule of law must be upheld.

  178. A standoff is a generous way of putting what may or may not be a choreographed dance between trump and one of his pets. Sometimes the dog rolls over for a bone, sometimes he doesn't. He's the iran-contra guy for a reason.

  179. The fix is in. Stone won't serve one minute in prison and will be free to carry on more dirty tricks to aid Trump's re-election. Thank the GOP at the ballot box in November, they've unleashed an unhinged monster who calls himself the King of the United States of America.

  180. What makes you so sure? Shouldn’t we just wait and see without such unbecoming certitude?

  181. @John Adams true, but by destroying the rule of law and ensuring that none of his loyal croonies are ever punished, they can also ensure that both trump and the GOP stay in power. No way McConnell and his ilk are going to do anything to rock that boat. The GOP stopped caring about America decades ago. It's just that some GOP presidents were much better at disguising it, such as Reagan, who dramatically increased the national debt and made tax cuts for the rich a popular refrain to "create jobs". Yep, good luck.

  182. There is no standoff between Trump and Barr, this is all showmanship. If Barr was truly bothered he would have resigned long ago. This Roger Stone trial is just the tip of the iceberg. Trump and his cronies are attempting to purge all in the justice department that had anything to do with the Russia probe and Mueller report. This should alarm all in Congress both Republican and Democrats. No president has ever attempted a purge such as this for civil servants that were just doing their job. It's time for the Republicans in Congress to stand up for this tyranny even though I know they won';t.

  183. @VMG So true, Barr is a worse actor than his beloved Roseanne.

  184. @VMG Barr and his authoritarian financiers tolerate herr drumpf, not the other way around.

  185. It may be a given that Trump will pardon Stone, but that will put him in a more precarious position with most voters. The blatantly corrupt actions taken by Trump will pile up and be used as evidence against him in the upcoming election. Decent people will be repelled by his actions. He's providing us with copious amounts of ammunition, and he can rest assured that it will be used. It paints an ugly picture to any honest person, and he can be certain it will be resurrected during the campaign. Thanks, Donald, for filling the buckets with mud; it will be slung.

  186. “Decent people will be repelled by his actions.” Yes, most of us would be repelled by his actions. But his BASE, his base! is made up of people who are either racist and/or religious right-wing fanatics who like to go to rallies. That is what is frightening. And the Republican party knows this, and all they want is to not pay their taxes.

  187. Obviously, though, and sadly, Trump’s supporters seem not to be too concerned with honesty. He spews untruths nearly every day, yet they blindly support him.

  188. @Bill McGrath, absolutely. Now the question is: are there enough "decent people" who actually care about all this? Let's hope for the best...

  189. I wonder if this will work against Stone. Trump can't make the judges resign or leave office Nor do they need to be re-elected or secure his approval to continue in their position. I guess he'll have to....wait....and he's notoriously it'll have to be a pardon after all and so much for all Barr's posturing.

  190. Trump has gotten off scot-free and, immediately after Stone's sentencing, Trump will grant Stone a full pardon. It is an obscene abuse of the Presidential Pardon. Stone's crimes will be on the heads of every Republican Senator who voted to acquit Trump--a decision that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, to say nothing of the very real possibility that Trump will likely continue to do even more corrupt actions in the future. Let's remember what a Presidential pardon is: according to the Department of Justice's own website, it is an acknowledgement that the President forgives a criminal who, in turn, has accepted responsibility for their crime and who demonstrates good conduct after their conviction. "It does not signify innocence" -- and here I quote the JD's own website. A pardon does not signify innocence.

  191. @Norman Good comments, but I don't see that any republican senators will ever feel hauted because that would require that they feel regret and if they don't yet feel regret, I don't think they ever will.

  192. If Judge Berman sentences Stone according to guidelines or close, we'll then see what Barr's true colors are. He will either go after her as trump demands, or he won't and himself become the target of trump's ire. Should he chose to follow orders, he forfeits any shred of honor or dignity he might retain and subject himself to recrimination in the process. Should he not, trump will fire him and appoint an acting AG who's likely to make Barr look like the choir boy he believes himself to be. Either way trump lands another gut punch to democracy and the rule of law - and America loses.

  193. @Deb No, not true. A conviction was handed down by an honest Judge. That wins. America became a loser when current occupant was elected. Anyone got any bananas?

  194. @Deb Barr came into the position without a single "shred of honor or dignity" thus, he has nothing to forefit.

  195. @Deb "any shred of honor or dignity he might retain" What shred is that, pray tell?

  196. In the short time between sentencing and a probable pardon, I have renewed faith that the judiciary can act independently of executive interference.

  197. Technically, there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent Trump from exercising his "right" to intervene in criminal matters before the Federal Courts. After Watergate, a wall was erected prohibiting interference by the White House in Justice Department matters. It has never been codified, but has persisted by custom and out of ethical necessity. All presidents, until Trump, have respected it and have declined to even comment on pending criminal matters. The non-interference rule stands on the same footing as the Justice Department "rule" prohibiting prosecution of a sitting president. But for that internal memorandum, it is quite clear that Robert Mueller would have brought criminal charges against Trump. Trump's presidency depended on adherence to one custom, while he flouts the other. Non-interference needs to be codified. Prohibition against presidential prosecutions needs to be challenged in the courts.

  198. @Jim Yulman Technically, it's called obstruction of justice. It's a federal crime, even if it's from someone in elected office.

  199. @Ben R. Agreed. And Mueller made it clear that all of the elements of the crime had been proven, but he couldn't do anything about it because of the DOJ internal memorandum. Mueller left it to Congress to act, and we know how that ended.

  200. @Jim Yulman I seem to remember Republicans having conniptions because ex-President Clinton spent 30 minutes with Obama’s AG on a plane...

  201. The judge should have given the maximum sentence because Trump will likely pardon Stone. If this was done as a calculation that three years might go under Trump’s radar, I’m afraid the judge has shown poor judgment.

  202. @Stay Loose trump is proved right again. 7-9 years was excessive.

  203. @Stay Loose If external factors influenced the sentence (and we don't know to what extent or if they did), then I must respectfully disagree. This judge is not so obtuse as to think that any sentence will escape Trump's notice. One of the issues here in Barr advocating for a reduced sentence was that prosecutors typically go for a sentence on the sterner end, mindful that it might be lessened because of extenuating circumstances. So if you start by asking for a mild sentence, and then there's a plea for leniency, the sentence dwindles even more. Some prosecutors and defense lawyers not affiliated with the case have commented that the recommended sentence might in fact be a little stiff. So this sentence neither lets Stone off the hook nor appears to be motivated by a stubborn insistence on punishing him to the max. It is--what's that word?--judicious.

  204. @Stay Loose It is not the judge's job to estimate what Trump will do, nor should she consider it in her sentencing. I am assuming that since she has been independent from the beginning, that she made the decision independently as well.

  205. It is absolutely, totally unfair that rich, well-connected, "conservative" crooks should to to jail. That is the message Trump is sending. SADD!!