The Sea Wall That Trump Calls ‘Foolish’

Jan 21, 2020 · 16 comments
romanette (Decatur, Ga)
And so Tuesday we hear that all work on the study has been cancelled. Clearly another vengeful spur-of-the moment order bt Trump. Tweets are bad enough, when they become policy we are in big trouble. So why not cut off the water to Trump Tower on grounds that Trump is endangering flood control efforts? Or go a step forward and turn it off at all federal facilities. It's time to fight fire with fire and fight water with water.
g.e.Taylor (Sunrise, Fl. by way of Bklyn., NY)
Is the build up of walled defenses against the invading water for the relatively "gentrified" geography of e.g., New York City, Florida, the City of London, The Netherlands, etc., adding to a rising ocean that will swamp the Seychelles and other economically low-lying disadvantaged civilizations that occupy water-front real estate?
g.e.Taylor (Sunrise, Fl. by way of Bklyn., NY)
Where will the "walled" water be stored? Or will it somehow be channeled to the parched landscape of the Pacific coast wildfires? If not there, whose neighborhood is willing to become the reservoir?
NBrooke (East Coast West Coast)
Water always finds a way around. The issue with a sea all is that all of that water has to go some where. You will protect some portions of the city at the expense of others. The water will be redirected to other coastal areas. And with most things, it will be those with $$ whose property will be protected, at the expense of both the costs to build and the property of those with less money and influence.
Robbie Heidinger (Westhampton)
The city needs to retreat, be deconstructed. There is no way any wall can prevent the ocean from rising and reclaiming whatever it wants.
Imagine (Scarsdale)
Sea walls destroy the coastline. Read up on it.
Howard Berner (New Jersey)
I wouldn't bet on this happening while Trump is President. He's the guy who cut funding for the new Hudson River railroad tunnels used by 500,000 people a day.
Freddie (New York NY)
@Howard Berner - I'm thinking if he's re-elected, and also the economy starts trending poorly - his advisors will convince him that getting emergency funding to create lots of jobs will work to reserve his legacy of a good economy. Trump really seems to be a hard-line Republican unless it's better not to be, and after (hope not, but losing hope) re-election, it will be legacy, legacy, legacy (and of course, make sure he never gets prosecuted after he's out of office). There was really a musical once called "Shake a Legacy," and when the legacy is bad, shaking the legacy is more than a fun pun. Trump going to do all he can to shake any thought that the impeachment was justified.
N. Smith (New York City)
Considering the fact that Donald Trump not only denies there's such a thing as climate change, but has also directed his administration to take every imaginable step in speeding it up, it's "foolish" not to consider anything he says about a possible remedy as foolish. And if he thinks relocating to Mar-a-lago, Florida is going to save him from future rising seas -- he's in for a big surprise.
ZNY (New York)
Wouldn’t there be environmental consequences from building a wall? How about adjusting our lifestyles to pollute less and reduce the chances of major storms?
John (LINY)
Trump is right, we don’t need the wall because we don’t have a future with him. Let the monarchy decide!
lucky13 (NY)
I'm not an expert, of course, but I think that using funds to buy up properties near the water, and reverting the land to open space is a good idea, where possible and practical. I've seen videos about people rebuilding their homes, elevating them, and so forth. Relocation programs might be a better way of dealing with the devastation of floods along the coast. Repeat performances of flooding catastrophes would be disastrous to homeowners, it goes without saying. Maybe building cohousing projects that are more floodproof along the coast should also be considered. These buildings would be elevated with perhaps parking underneath them or other uses. They would be made of materials that can better withstand floods--like concrete instead of wood, and so forth. Residents could share facilities such as laundry and cooking spaces, as well as recreationand gardening.
B. (Brooklyn)
I heard Eric Adams's screed on 1010-WINS this morning. He don't want no people from Ohio coming to New York City? Really? Okay. But I don't see homegrown New Yorkers rising to the occasion to fill jobs that call for patience, the ability to focus, and a little education.
Paul (Brooklyn)
@B. -Yes I could not believe he made such a bigoted, dog whistle racist statement like that, more apropos of Trump. Imo he put a fatal nail in any hopes of being re elected Bklyn Borough president let alone mayor. Statement like that were made by bigoted whites after WW2 when blacks were migrating to Bklyn.
Freddie (New York NY)
@B. - just regarding "He don't want no people from Ohio coming to New York City? Really?" Tune of “Jamabalaya - On the Bayou” Come by plane, then take the train, To our borough Brooklyn Heights, see some sights, Maybe grab a churro. But no way, its not okay to gentrify - oh! Hope this ain’t rude, but leave that ‘tude - in Ohio. Coney Isle, has great style, And right by there. Nothing beats the Russian eats In great supply there, But if you try to gentrify, though, we won’t lie-oh. Son of a gun, leave those thoughts, hon - in Ohio. (chorus) Lots to do, we’ll welcome you, When you visit It’s more glam now, right near BAM now - So exquisite. But no lie, try to gentrify, that we won’t buy-oh! Love ya dude, leave that attitude - in Ohio.
B. (Brooklyn)
A great lyric, Freddie! Still, remembering Brooklyn in the 1950s and 1960s, I have to sneer a bit when people protest a return to what I knew as normal neighborhoods -- clean, safe, graffiti-free, where people didn't hang out and make noise at all hours or shoot at one another.