California Sues Facebook for Documents in Privacy Investigation

Nov 06, 2019 · 66 comments
Jeff (California)
Of the people outraged by this, how many have Facebook accounts? That's what I would like to know. I would wager to guess a fairly large percentage. Social media is not your friend. Take action and delete your account.
Paulie (Earth)
Throw zuckerberg in jail for not complying with a lawful order, that’ll get his attention. Why are corporations allowed to flout the law?
Arkemano (Atlanta)
Being investigated is, I guess, something the boy wonder and his seemingly surrogate Mommy Sheryl Sandberg can’t just say “Sorry” for? Poor Zucky & team are out of their depth.
Chuck (CA)
Great move by AG Becerra. Facebook needs to be held accountable over it's horendous behavior with respect to user data and privacy. The feds won't do it.. so.. once again... California steps up. And you know what.. Facebook is hosed here.. because they operate in California... so time for Zuckerberg, et al, to suck it up and be responsible adults, responsible corporate citizens, and Facebook to be either a responsible corporation or get litigated back to the garage they started from.
Lisa (Santa Cruz)
"like"
The Iconoclast (Oregon)
Not dumping FB because ?????? There are no reasons, unless you want to play the fool!
ndv (California)
I want my private data, private. Why is the default option, no privacy? Because Tech is chose that option for MONEY. Now imagine any bricks and mortar business, like Safeway keeping your private data. Well, you don't they are just as complicit. My option is PRIVACY, because when it's gone - you're living in their world. And Freedom is a lost cause.
Bill (New York City)
From a silly college site to global domination, Facebook had the opportunity to do goof things for the world. Instead it weaponized and monetized and today is a pariah around the neck of the World. So much for cute cat pix.
bob (Santa Barbara)
Zuckerberg looks a lot like Jared Kushner.
Roland Berger (Magog, Québec, Canada)
Soon it will be totally ridiculous to go politics hoping changing things in favor of ordinary people. You will have to have the Facebook authorization.
rwan (NY, NY)
Zuckerberg's youthful appearance belies an arrogant and ruthless demeanor that sees securing corporate success and profits as an end above all else. Facebook is just another corporate snake that espouses "social values" in their mission statement but continually violates decency norms for profit. Do not allow his convenient answers before Congress convince you otherwise.
TR NJ (USA)
Outrageous. Is Zuckerberg really the brilliant jerk he was portrayed as in “The Social Network” with little regard for societal norms (e.g. common decency and the rule of law)? Is he seeking revenge for being questioned, scrutinized and penalized by lawmakers at home and abroad? Is the Trump arrogance playbook his new example as how to ignore a SUBPOENA? Time to pull out of Facebook. He is an insult to our democracy.
Sameer (Bay Area, CA)
If Facebook fails to comply with subpoena and related requests, arrest Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg. California of 2019 is not a lawless wild-west!
James (Omaha, NE)
It is really anti-social media.
Woof (NY)
Why would Mr. Zuckerberg be so obstinate ? Besides very good lawyers he has powerful political backing Politicians on the right and left are decrying the tech companies’ enormous power. They may cry in public, but they use High Tech’s money to get elected In return the protect the interest of their donors. Ms. Pelosi is CA 's most powerful politician Who funds her election campaigns ? Let's have a look Nancy Pelosi Campaign Committee Fundraising, Top Contributors, 2015 - 2016 #1 Facebook Inc # 2 Google Inc Campaign Committee Fundraising, 2017 - 2018 #1 Facebook Inc # 2 Salesforce.com Ongoing Campaign 2019 - 2020 #1 Kleiner, Perkins et al #2 Facebook Inc Data https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary/nancy-pelosi? If you are the State, would you take on Ms. Pelosi ?
Jason Shapiro (Santa Fe , NM)
Zuckerberg is a sociopath - a rich and clever one, but a sociopath nevertheless. He has no conscience and will do anything to get his way until confronted, regulated, and Facebook is dismembered. The government did it to Ma Bell; it can do it to Facebook.
Steve Fankuchen (Oakland, CA)
Just another example of Americans allowing (buying into, actually) Too Big To Fail institutions. Can we posthumously vote for Teddy Roosevelt?
Suzanne (Rancho Bernardo, CA)
How ironic that the emails from Executives are deemed private, and therefore not subject to sharing. Wish they had as much care with all of OUR info. It is beyond time to start issuing warrants for the folks that won’t comply to subpoenas. It’s just ridiculous
Jim (California)
Zuck has stonewalled the wrong State. Given California's long history of well planned decisive actions against malign corporate practices and succeeding in the objective, Zuck is merely wasting corporate assets in legal defense by his illegal actions. With a bit of skill California will pierce facebook's corporate veil and go after Zuck & Sandberg personally.
Taz (NYC)
Break out the handcuffs for anyone––everyone––who ignores the will of the people as expressed through the courts.
Judith (Deerfield Beach, FL)
Like trump, zuckerberg believes he is above the law.
Steve Williams (Calgary)
Who does he think he is, a member of the Trump administration?
Gregory (New York)
You just never know he may be.
blgreenie (Lawrenceville NJ)
To those who don't see the similarity between Trump and Zuckerberg, better look again. Both excel at the con. Their sense of entitlement must be DNA-based. To those who think that Zuckerberg doesn't represent a danger to the country (world?), better think again as well.
Stephan (Seattle)
Zuckerberg learned his defense strategies from Trump.
TA (Seattle,WA)
The land of the common people must act. FACEBOOK must not cheat and promote Donald J. Trump. Justice must not be bought by money of tax-dodger crooks.
bobandholly (NYC)
Ignoring subpoenas is the next big thing
winthropo muchacho (durham, nc)
FB engaging in lawless activity? “Rick, I’m shocked, shocked, that there’s gambling going on in this establishment...”
David DiRoma (Baldwinsville NY)
I’ll bet that someone is whispering “”We’re bigger than California” in Zuck’s ear and he’s thinking “So true”.
JABarry (Maryland)
Zuckerberg's position to publish blatant lies in political ads, claiming it is not his problem, not Facebook's problem, but up to Facebook users' to decide what is true and what is false, is the problem. Ironically, instead of connecting people, Zuckerberg's Facebook platform is a totally irresponsible force for social disorder and political chaos. Far from just failing to secure and ensure the privacy of users, he refuses to accept responsibility for the insidious harm he and his platform enable and spread around the globe. If state and federal governments, and the courts, cannot regulate Facebook and hold it and Zuckerberg accountable then it is time for users to close their accounts. The convenience of posting your child's 5th birthday party photos on Facebook so aunt Leona and uncle Walt, who live a thousand miles away, can enjoy them is not worth Facebook selling your child's photos and all his/her related personal information to purchasers on the Dark Web. Wouldn't snail mailing photos with a nice note to your aunt and uncle be a better choice? You may think your family's personal information is safe and secure, but Zuckerberg has proven countless times that he doesn't care about users' privacy. To him, it is all about how he can grow Facebook to put money in his pockets. His recent testimony at a congressional hearing was in effect: I publish lies for money. Get over it.
Becca Helen (Gulf of Mexico)
Listen up people. Put your egos on pause, get off Instagram and FB ( if anyone still bothers w/it) for as long as it takes that snooty boi, Zuck, to learn his lesson. He is not the master of the universe, AND the world doesn't kowtow to him just because he has an endless pile of $$$$. If you have an ounce of discipline, draw on it. It's empowering and so very freeing to $tick it to the Man. The saying used to be don't trust anyone over 30. Now it's don't trust any tech billionaire under 40!!
pbsfan (South Orange, NJ)
There is an interesting article in GIZMODO on Nov 5 about top civil rights lawyers warning Mark Zuckerberg of potential criminal liability in regard to his refusal to block political advertisements; see https://gizmodo.com/top-civil-rights-lawyers-warn-mark-zuckerberg-of-potent-1839637024 The article (and the lawyers' effort) deserve more public attention. In the light of Facebook's role as demagogues' tool, Facebook needs to be shut down.
TH (Hawaii)
There is a simple way to resolve this impasse. Jail Zuckerberg for contempt and don't release him until the documents are produced.
SAJP (Wa)
Refusing to turn over documents and cooperating with investigators--it's a thing. At least, it's a thing for those *special* kind of people that aren't like the rest of us.
Ashley B. (Atlanta, GA)
ahhh, this must be where Trump learned it. and, just like Trump, Zuckerberg seems to think he's above the law, and that the rest of the country is subject to his delusional interpretations of what is constitutional. it's time we put an end to this lawlessness.
José Franco (Brooklyn NY)
What would happen is we all just stopped using Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp? Would MZ respond to a boycott?
Jim (California)
@José Franco YES, what would happen? They'd all go bust. SO why are so many complaining social media users refusing to make the move?
Becca Helen (Gulf of Mexico)
@José Franco With you 100% on that, and have done so far about a year now. Whatsapp creeps me out like a slimy, creepy, dark web vibe. Turn. Turn. Turn, good people.
Randy (Austin)
How long is Zuckerberg going to subject himself to the onslaught of attacks by the state of California? I'd be looking to move out of that state ASAP; it's only going to get worse from here...
Jim (California)
@Randy He can move to wherever he wants. But, the labor pool available in the 'Silicon Valley' is not found anywhere else in the USA. So, it would be stupid to do a Toyota (move from CA to TX) because the brains will not be keen to decamp from the Bay area.
Becca Helen (Gulf of Mexico)
@Randy Your comment reminds me of the Stones song, "$ympathy for the Devil".
Rob Brown (Keene, NH)
What ever makes you think they would? Might and money make right in America these days.
Jim (California)
@Rob Brown Always has since the Virginia colony was established.
Aunt Rosie (San Francisco)
As Oprah and others before her have said: “When someone shows you who they are, believe them!” Mark has shown us a gazillion times that he’s an unrepentant liar. He lies to Congress, even, and no consequences have befallen him. The only thing we users can do is to stop mainlining FB, at least for one week. There’s a movement afoot to take a Facebook Fast, from December 1 to December 7. Only if we withdraw our “attention” in sufficient numbers will Mark be inspired to change. Our democracy demands we do more than complain. Our democracy demands we take action.
Michelle from SV (Santa Cruz, Ca)
@Aunt Rosie Should be called a Facebook Strike!
MattF (DC)
Maybe Facebook believes it Is above the law. Or, worse, the truth is so awful that it doesn’t dare to comply. Either way, it’s bad news.
BSR (Bronx, NY)
Clearly, Trump is not the only one who thinks he is above the law!
Slann (CA)
AG Becerra is on the case! He's doing the job a former CA AG refused to "dirty her hands with": protecting the rights of CA citizens, NOT kowtowing to corporations (especially "utilities").
YZ (London UK)
FB is quickly moving from just a convenient app to “connect people” towards a vehicle for selling everyone’s privacy to the highest bidder and a megaphone for dissemination of paid for lies. We need some serious oversight over this dubious company.
Susan (California)
Facebook’s principal business model of “targeted advertising” is based on invading your personal privacy in order to compute, via machine learning, detailed and highly refined profiles of each and every one of its users. No wonder Facebook wants to hide internal correspondence that could reveal the depth of Facebook’s surveillance!
José Franco (Brooklyn NY)
Facebook & MZ are showing their true colors. Stonewalling isn't only exclusive to the Trump administration.
george eliot (annapolis, md)
Zuckerberg, and his sidekick "Lean-in" Sandberg need to be brought down once and for all. His double talking public relations gibberish will come to an end when Becerra slaps the cuffs on. I'm a lawyer and I know very little about computer technology. Zuckerberg's an oligarch who knows nothing about the law or free speech. I know my limitations, Becerra needs to show him his.
Katz (Tennessee)
Mark Zuckerberg is starting to look like a Bond villain.
Patricia (New York)
It's interesting to realize that Zuckerberg has learned little in the years since Facebook's genesis. He still handles business like a novice, know-it-all college student. Just a matter of time until it catches up with him. Can't happen soon enough. Greed above all is not a plan that will stand the test of time.
William (Napa, California)
I really think Facebook would be better served by a new CEO. Zuckerberg is a genuinely divisive figure is ill equipped to represent his company well.
Valerie (California)
Zuckerberg is taking his cues from Mitch McConnell. Deny, delay, destroy. I'd like to see him in an orange jumpsuit, but failing that, Facebook should be broken up and regulated, along with all the other social media companies that don't care who or what they damage so long as they WIN. Sound familiar?
polymath (British Columbia)
So on top of everything else he thinks he is above the law? Nobody is above the law. So I hope he is dealt with exactly like anyone else in California who ignores subpoenas.
Katz (Tennessee)
@polymath We have a president who thinks he's above the law, and his party is supporting him in that.
polymath (British Columbia)
Be patient.
al (NJ)
It seems the word subpoena has little meaning in regard to respecting the law from those who reject it. Time for the law to be respected and arrest those who defy the law.
Pat (Somewhere)
@al Exactly correct. Lately it seems as though subpoenas have become nothing more than requests with no consequences for refusal. That needs to change.
irdac (Britain)
@al Not only should the law be properly applied but it should be applied fairly. If you are poor and steal a loaf of bread you will likely serve jail time. Why does the USA not apply the same logic to much graver offences by the rich?
MJG (Sydney)
I'd be happy with a situation where I, and any other users, are in charge of our own social media accounts. We can decide what is and isn't known, what is and isn't stored, etc.
RM (ATL)
@MJG You already are in charge with your social media accounts. You are the one who chooses to share information with Facebook and other various social media companies in the first place. If you aren't happy with what they are doing with your data, then stop sharing more information with them. You have to realize you are the product that they are selling to others.
Scott J. (Illinois)
@RM So if the phone company gives you free service you think they should have the right to monitor the content of your communications and use it to make a profit?
RM (ATL)
They can monitor it all they would like, I'm going to use encrypted communications anyways. Nothing is ever free in this world. You are giving up your rights to privacy by using a free service.