House Panel Subpoenas Kellyanne Conway on Ethics Law Violations

Jun 26, 2019 · 246 comments
Richard Marcley (albany)
Is there anyone in this administration who isn't a criminal, a liar, a phony, stupid, ignorant, arrogant or a thieving grifter, etc., etc? Lock em up!
rusty carr (my airy, md)
Don't worry about Ms. Conway. Alternative karma will catch up with her. First and foremost this is Trump's failure. He pledged to uphold the law. He isn't. This is simply another article of impeachment. Let's get started shall we?
Guido Malsh (Cincinnati)
No worries! She'll be pardoned! When Executive Privilege and Pardonable are mentioned in the same sentence and apply to the same persons, they immediately transcend to become Unpardonable Sins. Vote.
Andrew (Australia)
It's great to see the House doing its job, and the chickens coming home to roost for some members of the Trump maladministration. For too long these people have got away with egregious, appalling, unethical behavior without being held to account. Actions have consequences.
SParker (Brooklyn)
@Andrew I agree with you, but doubt that she will show up. If she does, we can expect more obfuscation, what aboutism and word salads.
Judd (Illinois)
Has Henry Kerner read the hatch act? It appears that he has not. So many inconsistencies and lack of information. Unable site statues that Ms. Conway's were her infractions. Good luck prosecuting violations that can not even be stated.
robert lachman (red hook ny)
How many toothless subpoena’s can the Democrats in the House issue the Trump Administration anyway? Instead of backing them up with a real threat of arrest and a prison term they allow themselves to be bullied into submission by Trump’s DOJ, while the rule of law, which the Dems pretend to hold so dear, drowns slowly in the quicksand of 2020 political expediency. If the Democrats really want to win the next election it’s time to stop playing it safe and back up their rhetoric with action. Handcuffs and an Impeachment Enquiry would be a good first step.
Doremus Jessup (On the move)
If the Trump toadies don't have to honor subpoenas, I think it's only fair that the rest of us don't have to honor them either, if issued. That sounds fair, don't you think? After all, these upstanding people aren't any better than the rest of us, are they? Can't have double standards, can we?
Ms. Pea (Seattle)
So, Cummings will hold Conway in contempt, as if that means anything. Is he prepared to have her arrested? It's doubtful. The truth is that Cummings and the other Democrats are going up against people who feel the law doesn't apply to them. Trump and Co. have hijacked our government. Trump never intended to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. Conway and Trump think they are above the law and can't be touched. And, in some respects they are correct. How far are Democrats ready to go? I guess we'll see in the next few days, but it's doubtful Kelly Anne will ever testify in front of Congress.
Christopher Davis (Palatine, IL)
Fine these trump associates in contempt of Congress in a big way. They worship money, hit ‘em where it hurts.
Woodie (East Boothbay, ME)
From whom do you think she learned to break the law?
camilia (san francisco)
"Lock her up." Ms. Conway should be arrested along with White House staff who have ignored House subpoenas and are in contempt. Before and after assuming his kingship, Trump has encouraged his campaign, family, and administrative staff to show outrageously appalling and galling disrespect for all government ethics - but then none of them have any ethics. No matter what their jobs; they have violated the law; they need to pay the price, and be shown they are not above the law.
lgg (ucity)
So, let me get this straight. Kerner, a Republican, appointed by our Dear Leader, who worked for Issa, went after Conway because she is conservative? Maybe Jordan got thrown to the mat one too many times during his wrestling career. Sheesh.
Tom Q (Minneapolis, MN)
Her reaction to breaking the law was "Blah, blah, blah." That sounds very similar to a famous French queen who lost her head. Perhaps we should refer to her as Kelly Antionette.
gern blansten (NH)
Fines and jail are what these folks understand. Lock her up.
Richard B (Washington, D.C.)
hu·bris /ˈ(h)yo͞obrəs/ noun excessive pride or self-confidence. "the self-assured hubris among economists was shaken in the late 1980s" synonyms: arrogance, conceit, conceitedness, haughtiness, pride, vanity, self-importance, self-conceit, pomposity, superciliousness, feeling of superiority; More (in Greek tragedy) excessive pride toward or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.
Andy (Salt Lake City, Utah)
Newsflash for Jim Jordan: You're not good at your job when the the United States Office of Special Counsel firmly demands your termination for flagrant and repeated violations of federal law. That's like saying the stock boy stealing inventory out the back is doing a good job because, well, he was hired to move inventory, right? I guess the owners should have been more specific about where they wanted the stock. Give me a break.
KK (CO)
George Conway, if you are out there, would love your legal perspective on this one.
J. Grant (Pacifica, CA)
Even worse than her blatant violations of the Hatch Act was Mrs. Conway's coinage of the phrase "alternate facts" in the early days of the Trump presidency. When she leaves the White House, she should create and assume the CEO position of a company that best suits her M.O. called "Liars Inc."...
Jim Dennis (Houston, Texas)
Throw her in jail for a few days for an attitude adjustment.
Reid Geisenhof (Athens Ga)
The hubris on display is disgusting. Par for the course, but still.
Joshua Folds (New York City)
Kellyanne Conway's biggest mistake--at least in the eyes of House Democrats--was helping Trump to get elected. Had Conway helped the notorious loser Hillary Clinton, she would have been lionized as the "First Female Campaign Manager" to win an election for POTUS. Instead, she has been the object of selective prospection, demonization, relentless ad hominem abusive sexist attacks about her appearance and perpetual objectification from the mainstream media. Mrs. Conway figuratively TKOd the DNC's "First Female President" by exploiting how utterly out of touch she was with Democrat strongholds in the Rust Belt. Democrats will circle the Earth to find something, anything at all, on Trump's winning coalition. If only these Democratic scoundrels were equally concerned with using my tax dollars to redress issues of greater significance such as the healthcare system they helped to destroy, illegal invasion of foreign nations which they helped to induce and state rights which they frequently trample on. But instead they are playing political tit-for-tat. Mrs. Conway may be guilty of obscure ethics violations. But she should be knighted or beatified as Saint Kellyanne compared with the horrifying self-serving DNC establishment hucksters in the House and Senate.
Angelsea (Maryland)
Of course you have the right to your opinions and I stand by your right to express them unlike so many Republicans these days. I must tell you though that her violations of ethics are not obscure. At last count, more than 100,000 civilian employees and military members have been terminated, fined, or busted since the Hatch Act was adopted. Although the Hatch Act is part of detailed annual training, obviously, some people just can't learn a lesson without punishment. She must be punished, not for defending her boss but for violating the rules against politically campaigning from her government office. There is a great deal of difference between the two acts.
Thomas Adamson (San Diego)
Ms. Conway is still quire obvious guilty. The Hatch Act is not obscure, and Ms. Conway clearly knows that she is guilty. Please stop offering excuses.
Steve Kennedy (Deer Park, Texas)
"Bolstered by Mr. Trump’s declaration that he would not fire her, Ms. Conway has remained unapologetic in the face of the charges and dismissed outright the office’s report earlier this week as a politically motivated ploy." Like Mr. Trump when cornered, just deflect, blame somebody else, etc. Blatant arm waving, with a side of chutzpah.
Catherine Clark (NYC)
When she defies the subpoena what will happen? Nothing. They will consider the “options” It is infuriating that this Congress has totally ceded their power.
ehillesum (michigan)
So this is the new precedent for a President’s inner circle? Don’t forcefully defend the President you work for? Just which of the angry Dems running for the /020 nomination will be content to have an inner circle that will meekly respond to GOP attacks should their candidate get elected? Would a President Bernie or Warren when accused of being Stalinist money grabbers be pleased to have their inner circle respond with, That’s an interesting point Mr Hannity but we prefer to call it appropriate, compassionate wealth redistribution.
Jean louis LONNE (France)
First, someone will have to give her a definition of ethics.
Olga Guerra (Denver, CO)
It’s ironic that so many folks buy the “law and order” mantra that Republicans have claimed as their motto for decades. Mr. Drumpf and his flunkies, as well as all the colluding Republican elected officials, brazenly break the law and defy their oaths of office over and over again and circle their wagons around the criminals. Their belief is money and it’s derived power make them above the law. Drumpf’s base loves his law breaking and that of his ethically-challenged appointees. They see it as being “strong” and “defiant”. Unfortunately, there seems to be no one to hold this corrupt administration accountable.
Bruce (Spokane WA)
"Bolstered by Mr. Trump’s declaration that he would not fire her, she has remained unapologetic..." Because Trump's promises are sooo reliable.
Donald Matson (Orlando)
“Equality under the law” and “freedom of speech” two of the many, many things Americans, and people across the world, believe is in the US Constitution but isn’t.
John (Washington, D.C.)
Good and if she fails to show up, arrest her and put her in jail. She has broken the law.
David (Austin, Texas)
WHEN will there be legal action to enforce the subpoenas that have been ignored? Until that happens and the likes of Conway and all the others find themselves testifying or wearing orange jumpsuits, it's all just kabuki theater...interesting but nothing more, and it will go on and on and on.
joymars (Provence)
Throughout his odious career Trump has doggy-paddled his financial position by either being a scofflaw or making noises like one. How any voter could be content with this spirit presiding over the nation will be the great mystery of this 243 year-old form of government.
Theo Baker (Los Angeles)
We pay Ms. Conway’s salary so she can counsel the president, not lie and endlessly campaign. It’s really pretty simple. Hold her accountable.
irunrva (Virginia)
Still waiting for the George Conway tweets.
Angelsea (Maryland)
So, as the senior civilian employee in the Federal Government, shouldn't the president also be held to the Hatch Act? Shouldn't Barr? Both are guilty of the same comments, discourse, and actions Ms. Conway is guilty of. If the Hatch Act applies to the lowliest employees of the United States government, it should apply to the highest offices also.
George (San Rafael, CA)
What's wrong with Rep. Jim Jordan? He can't seem to uphold the law. Every time someone breaks the law he's up there screaming and hollering it's a witch hunt. Read the Hatch Act! This is not a set up.
Sa Ha (Indiana)
@ George, He knows it. To Jordan with his ever present smirk, this Is a game of politics. It's not about lives and consequences. Just politics. No honesty. No truth. No higher calling to uphold and protect American values of life and liberty....There is another quote somewhere in the good book, "He who despises the poor despises his Maker".... Trump and McConnell are trying to remove all vestiges of decency and respect for human life with their rhetoric and actions to inflict suffering on "...the least..." of Us. Babies. Trumps Got to Go.
Sa Ha (Indiana)
@George, He knows it. For Jordan with his ever present smirk this Is a game. It's not about lives and consequences. Just politics as they vie for absolute control and power. Trump and McConnell have removed all vestiges of decency and repect and ushered in the rules of anarchy -there are no rules.
Scott Lincke (San Jose)
I can’t believe this article doesn’t list the instances she is accused of violating the Hatch Act provisions, but does list the specifics for others previously accused of violating the act. I do recall her shamelessly shilling for Ivanka’s (I believe now defunct) clothing line. Wish the author would list the others.
Paul Wortman (Providence)
If you live in Trumpland where you are under the "rule of Trump" rather than the Constitution's "rule of law," then, if you're Kellyanne Conway, the Hatch Act does not apply. This is where we are, until and unless, either the courts enforce the law or Nancy Pelosi invokes the Constitution to begin impeachment proceedings against Trump, Conway, and all the others who have claimed they live by the authoritarian "rule of Trump." We now have an Executive branch claiming "the rule of Trump" and Congress wavering on enforcing their Constitutional oath to "the rule of law." This is how day-by-day, drip-by-drip, defiant act by defiant act that we are on the slippery slope from democracy to autocracy.
susan (Mexico city)
For someone who is this close to the President, the fact that she defies Hatch openly saying 'come get me', sure that Trump will defend her is an open defiance of the law. The law applies to all of us She condemns any opinion contrary to her own, uses legitimate journalists who interview her as a political platform and belittles any one who dares to defy her. Alternative facts is the smallest of her lies. Draining the swap? They are filling it!
Sa Ha (Indiana)
You lay down with dogs you will get up with fleas...
Sa Ha (Indiana)
@Susan, I remember her first day arriving to the White House(?) She was wearing a Betsy Ross inspired outfit...and I said to myself, something is off....something is not right...Just saying, sometimes the people who scream, "I am a patriot!" the loudest are revealed to be the most lawless.....
merrykeys (california)
@Sa Ha she is not worth bothering with - I suggest we do not waste our time...
RetiredGuy (Georgia)
""House panel Subpoenas Kellyanne Conway on Ethics Law Violations" EXCELLENT! As a retired Fed. I'm glad the House members are going to push this. Every year there was an election, General or Mid-Term, we had a session on what we could and could not do under the provisions of the Hatch Act. I'd be willing to bet that was never done in Trump's White House. Kellyanne didn't even show up. She needs to learn a few facts of life, not any more of her "alt-facts" that she and Trump have cooked up. The House needs to show her as the poster child of not what to do and that the Hatch Act is real and must be obeyed by all active Federal Employees."
Mark Hawkins (Oakland, CA)
Considering the amount of law and order blather that spews out of Trump's mouth, it's interesting that the laws only seem to apply to liberals and their supporters. If you're conservative you're some kind of perennial victim who shouldn't be constrained by anything as silly as the law because... you're conservative. Conservatives apparently are only enforcers of the law, they aren't constrained by it. Ms. Conway should be marched out of the White House in handcuffs, but that would mean our justice system actually works and we all know that's the last thing conservatives in this country want. Millions of heads would simultaneously explode if conservatives were actually held to any of the numerous standards they purport to uphold.
Laxman (California)
Either it’s a law or it’s not
mrd (nyc)
Can't expect for ethics to be respected from someone who has none?
Curtis Hinsley (Sedona, AZ)
There's no question: this woman is maddening. We all knew someone like her in eighth grade: arrogant and obnoxious, and not particularly bright. Sigh . . .
Dom Scarola (New York)
Bye bye Kelly Kelly goodbye We hate to see you go Kelly Kelly goodbye Bye bye unethical Kelly Kelly goodbye Good riddance Kelly Kelly goodbye
Gregg (OR)
@Dom Scarola Sadly that's wishful thinking. She's not going anywhere.
Susan Piper (Portland, OR)
Why are the House committees dragging things out? Why don’t they skip the invitations to testify and go straight to the subpoena, followed quickly with petitions to the courts for orders to force compliance when the witness fails to appear? It should be clear to everyone at this point that Trump is ordering witnesses not to appear. He is attempting to run out the clock for as long as possible. It seems to me that the entire process could be considerably shortened. Am I missing something?
Elizabeth Schmidt (Columbus)
Now is the time to gather evidence. Investigate. Document. Every time she speaks, it is just more evidence. When trump loses the election, there will be no pardons. Then, if she is convicted, (all evidence points to her knowingly, willfully and repeatedly breaking federal law ON TV) she will actually go to prison and serve her time. Trump will never be charged because we are hesitant to prosecute a former president. It would set a scary precedent. But trump’s enablers, who have been breaking the law for him, will face a Federal judge. Every single one of them is potentially facing federal prison. They think they are untouchable because trump is untouchable. In about 18 months, the hammer is going to fall. There will be no pardons.
Gregg (OR)
I must say, at this point, so? She won't show up. Trump doesn't care. The DOJ is fixed and, of course, the Senate...well, McConnell. So this is all theater. Or should a say theatre? She could, like her hero, shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't matter a whit. To this we've come.
Biji Basi (S.F.)
If her White House lawyers say she doesn't have to testify because of "Executive Privilege", they should be required to point out the Constitutional provision or statute that justifies that. Legally, there is no such thing as "Executive Privilege".
Tom (New Mexico)
Ironic. If you happen to do real work for the Federal government, for example see patients in VA Healthcare Facility, God forbid that you should violate the Hatch Act (for example have a political sticker on your briefcase). The government bureaucrats who must justify their positions will swarm all over you like a plague of locusts.
D.j.j.k. (south Delaware)
She needs to be in jail. With her conflicts of interest of business and violating the laws like Trump should give her time in prison. To do nothing will just allows the GOP to continue to be corrupt every day. Lock her up.
Mike Westfall (Cincinnati, Ohio)
I just watched the guy in the White House declare his administration the" most transparent ever." Some people have been saying (to use a tactic of the big guy) that if there is nothing to hide, why not want the facts revealed. I believe the guy in the White House is about to face the piper. His rants will pick up, right up to the time the facts are revealed. He might want to consider resigning in exchange for immunity. A pipe dream for sure. Even Nixon could read the writing on the wall. Maybe someone will read it to the President. It is time to move on.
Lorem Ipsum (DFW, TX)
The most transparent thing he ever did was to cinch his arm tight around Mrs. Conway's waist in the traditional victory pose on election night. Not Pence's. And not his wife's either. Transparency numero two-o: referring to her husband by the cuckolding nickname "Mr. Kellyanne." Let's at least call her by the correct title: presidential consort.
Angela (Santa Monica)
In the swamp that is trumps presidency, ms. Conway is the queen.
Sa Ha (Indiana)
Got it. Not withstanding the obvious swampy mess. Another there is a vital reason why Trump won't censure or fire Kellyanne. Trump only has 10 to 20 words in his vocabulary and Kellyanne fills his glaring void with an almost projectile spewing of 'alternative facts' ergo lies and misinformation. She's a keeper...
William O. Beeman (San José, CA)
Kellyanne is clearly guilty, and she is incredibly arrogant and defiant. She is being protected by consigliere Barr. She needs to have the book thrown at her. Her obvious, obvious violation of the Hatch Act is a crime.
Rachel (Boulder)
Throw the book right in her face. That’ll leave a mark.
Susan (Tucson)
I would like to know some details about Ms. Conway's huckstering.
BabaBooey (denver)
So, I'm assuming they'll apply the same standards to say, um, FBI officials concocting a "backup plan" to overthrow a duly elected president? Nawwwwwwwwwwww
craig (Asheville)
As her name implies she took the dark path. Put her in handcuffs for that is the only way to wake this administration up. Her crime? Her appearance on television is employment of a weapon of mass nausea.
Ryan (NY)
How about Huckabee? She should be jailed for all the lies she told while being employed by the American people.
John Horvath (Cleveland, Ohio)
How much longer do we have to tolerate this criminal Trump Administration? Impeach, indict and imprison NOW!
David (DC)
I hope she will enjoy prison when she gets there.
John Gilday (Nevada)
Seems like the Times and the rest of MSM is ramping up their attacks on the administration knowing that the Dem candidates are going to make fools of themselves in the debates.
Carla (Brooklyn)
@John Gilday It's not democrats making fools of themselves, it's Kellyanne lying and flouting the law, I guess republicans don't believe in the rule of law.
John (Boulder, CO)
Maybe she’ll stop lying to Americans on our dollar?
Zed18 (DeKalb)
Law! Who needs law? We don't need no stinkin law! Let's face it folks as demonstrated by the King and his court laws are for fools. Only losers follow the law. This loser would love nothing more than to see the Kings witch held accountable.
rgoldman56 (Houston, TX)
How dumb do you have to be to buy KAC's defense of violations of her First Amendment rights. She can say whatever she wants , just like her husband George does, so long as she is not taking a salary and performing work as a Federal employee. Simple rule, whose defiance is consistent with Leona Helmsley rules: one set of laws for me and my friends, and one for the little people.
Kathy Lollock (Santa Rosa, CA)
My comment will be purely subjective, refraining from both the law and politics. As a woman, Ms Conway is an embarrassment to our gender. She is the perfect partner to her boss, both equal in amorality. But she is not alone in this circle of perditious women, to wit, the now "retired" Ms Sanders, Mitch's wife...need I go on? Yes, alas, my wrath is breaking through. Yet my hope in my disgust toward her and her kind will be vindicated. Justice, do your job.
whipsnade (campbell, ca)
Motormouth Conway finally wants to shut her mouth! What happened?
Jim Spear (Beijing)
If Conway defies the subpoena, she should be arrested by the House and held in its jail until she appears. The same for the other scofflaws in the Trump administration who are usurping the Constitution. Time to flex little used powers in the face of wanton lawlessness. Before it's too late.
Gary (Boston MA)
More political theater. Supreme Court has never defined precisely what the limits of free speech are for a government official. Hatch Act does not restrict gov employee from expressing opinions about candidates or issues. Even if Ms Conway appears, she will simply plead the fifth to every question. So what is the point? Keep the sidewalks clean, fix the potholes, and stop the nonsense
kate (MA)
@Gary Not everyone believes that sidewalks are the purview of government; not everyone believes that there are potholes. That is why such nonsense continues. Ms. Conway is an employee of taxpayers. Whatever she actually does for President Trump, the public should not be paying for her to make blatant political derogatory statements.
Thorlok (Arlington)
Since when have Republicans ever believed in the rule of law? Democracy, following the law, playing by the rules. Those are Democrat things.
mike hul (gv)
To expect anything of substance , coming from this , is a pipe dream. Nothing, so far, has been done to stop their total disregard and contempt for the law. Congress has done nothing to bring this behavior to a halt. They, instead , have chosen not to consider, breaking the law , a serious issue. The law applies to everyone else but a few. even
Eric Rosentreter (L'viv, Ukraine)
If she has broken the law, why doesn't someone with the authority press charges? What's preventing that?
Hugh Crawford (Brooklyn, Visiting California)
The reason that no one is pressing charges is because it is up to the executive branch to enforce the law and surprise surprise she’s the assistant to the guy that runs the executive branch.
MauiYankee (Maui)
Wow.........really? Bravo. So where is the legislation and hearings on on sricter penalties for violations of the Hatch Act? Public theater needed. Consider working 4 weeks a month and not taking 5 summer weeks off.
Almighty Dollar (Michigan)
She's being attacked because she's conservative. The Republicans are really the worlds most snow-flakey these days. And this is what their main attack mode against "too much pc" used to be. How things change.
John (San Francisco, CA)
Kellyanne Conway is guilty of violating the Hatch Act and has acted as if she is above the law. She has violated the power of the House of Representatives including its Republican members. Meadows, Jordan and others are quite willing to defend her behavior and give her and their president the House's power. AOC summarized the situation quite well.
Paul P (Greensboro,NC)
Um, have you not noticed, the law doesn’t apply to Trump ,or his minions.
LivingWithInterest (Sacramento)
When a Democrat commits and found guilty of a crime, I am ashamed in the same way as if my own family committed the crime. This batch of Republicans have no shame. Instead, they revel in committing the crime and enjoy flaunting their impunity right to your face to say, “Your laws don’t apply to me” while the taunt you by committing more crimes. And that seems to be OK with 60,000,000 people!
Daniel Romm (Chapel Hill, NC)
Lock ‘em up! Those who defy Congressional subpoenas and Trump for instructing them to do so.
Richard (Easton, PA)
The actions of legislators like Jim Jordan and others like him can only be explained in one of two ways: utterly delusional, or willfully complicit. The only solution is to escort them out, either in straitjackets or in handcuffs.
Gary (United States)
It's time to start locking up those that defy the Committee! No matter who they. Charge them with contempt and arrest them
Ewe (Nyc)
Nothing will happen. The democrats are 1) spineless and 2) just as corrupt as republicans. Here is the perfect example of people above the law pretending to hold others above the law accountable while trying to convince everyone else of exactly that. These people are dispicable
Paul P (Greensboro,NC)
The big question is how can someone with no discernible ethics, violate ethics laws? The entire Trump administration has never been anything but a method to enrich Trump and his cronies.
baltcate (FL)
Every time she opens her mouth, the phrase "let them eat cake" comes to mind. KAC represents the entitled attitude of everyone connected to the Trump Crime Family.
Sa Ha (Indiana)
Wow, thank you for nailing that down, you are right! It's the disdain.
John Grillo (Edgewater, MD)
Will George defend her, re the subpoena?
RW (Maryland)
The Hatch Act is frustrating and, in my view, vague and overreaching. It's a relic of a quaint older time when we believed that lower-level executive employees could influence the public based on supposed "insider knowledge" of discussions or plans. That seems naive and foolish at this juncture. You can't even retweet a campaign slogan or political ad--and why? Nobody's waiting on tenterhooks to hear who the First Lady's Press Secretary or the Senior Advisor to the President is voting for. That being said, it is the law and has been upheld by the Supreme Court. Generations of federal employees have been forced to remain tight-lipped and carefully curate their social media profiles to avoid any violations. I know dozens of people who have borne this burden, and some people have lost their jobs in the past for violating it. Kellyanne Conway is not special, and the rules do still apply to her. If Republicans are so concerned about the Hatch Act, I totally support their efforts to repeal or restrict its application. But this is just another example of this administration flouting the law.
David Henry (Concord)
@RW The law is clear. Simple to follow if one wants to.
bev135 (California)
@RW It is not an overreach to keep politics out of the normal functions of the Federal government. -Retired Federal Employee
Thomas Zaslavsky (Binghamton, N.Y.)
@RW You are mistaken about the reason for the Hatch Act.
Kip (Scottsdale, Arizona)
She will likely ignore the subpoena, criminal that she is.
Vanessa (NY)
Good for Ms. Conway. This is just another double standard applied to Republicans. Kathleen Sebelius and Julian Castro were found to have violated the Hatch Act during the Obama Administration, and nothing was ever done to them. Castro is now running for President!
baltcate (FL)
@Vanessa Each had one violation. And in Castro's case, he did try to avoid breaking the law. Both had no repeats. KAC has repeated violations and has expressed her intention to knowingly break the law whenever she wants. Big difference.
Ben (Charlotte, NC)
@Vanessa Apples and oranges. Do your research before claiming these are equal offenses. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/julian-castro-fox-news-town-hall-hatch-act-kellyanne-conway
KW (Jacksonville)
@Vanessa Castro had 1 incident in 2016. Which he apologized for and never violated again. That can not be said of Conway. More important why are you not mad about Conway violating the Hatch Act as you are about a Democrat? That's the double standard.
Brylar (New Jersey)
Kellyanne blatantly violates the law, is dishonest and consistently provides “alternative” facts to the American citizenry as an employee of the federal government. She provides the reasoning for her own disbarment. No question here about her integrity.
JM (San Francisco)
@Brylar Time for husband, George, to make comment.
Matthew O'Brien (San Jose, CA)
The official Republican position is that if you're a conservative Republican then you're free to break any law you wish with no accountability. How did we get here?
Lilly (New Hampshire)
Short Answer: By the DNC and Hillary fixing the Primaries.
John Briggs (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
This administration is too doofless to have an ideological position as coherent as fascism, but the will is there. Trump and his obedient legislators, his personal attorney masquerading as Attorney General, his unqualified appointees and pliant generals, his border guards with their warehoused children, are despite their incompetence a dangerous, armed mob. Who, who reads these pages, including Times editors, believes Trump will leave office peacefully, whatever the vote? They put kids in windowless warehouses. Where will the dissenting adults be placed?
Sa Ha (Indiana)
Trump would lke to reach an agreement with Kim...
Alan C. (Boulder)
Poor George.
Robert (Seattle)
Executive privilege can't be used to hide crimes or other wrongdoing, even if committed by White House officials. Even the president may not use executive privilege to conceal illegal acts. The independent and nonpartisan Office of Special Counsel has determined that Ms. Conway has committed multiple violations of the Hatch Act. Appearing before the House under oath will represent a true challenge for Conway who has lied countless times on behalf of Mr. Trump. Should Conway fail to appear or refuse to answer questions, the courts would almost certainly decide this in favor of the House leadership, which must not fail to use the courts should Conway make that necessary.
Eastbackbay (Bay Area)
She’s got nothing to lose and she learns from the best.
Steve (Louisville)
I guess the Hatch Law isn't her type.
Jay Orchard (Miami Beach)
Now that she faces a House subpoena to appear and testify about her repeated violations of federal law, let's see Kellyanne try to con her way out of this one.
Dan (NJ)
It's gonna be a bloodbath if the legislature starts holding people accountable, no matter how blatantly they broke laws on the books... The sort of purge that makes the other side feel like they're victims of a coup. I wonder what the response might be. We are in a precarious place.
Kenneth (Oyster Bay)
George Conway has been extremely silent regarding this matter. His soapbox must have caved in, or something.
Tom (San Diego)
If she refuses to appear - lock her up.
GP (nj)
If there is an opening to persecute Kellyanne, please take it. Her never ending campaign of disinformation screams for retribution.
Sa Ha (Indiana)
GOP members twisting, gaslighting grandstanding arrogantly flaunting their contempt of law and order. They are using this meeting to talk about everything but what the meeting was called for... Just waiting for them bring up Hillary Clinton's name.... They support Swamp King Trump and cannot break ranks. But they still just don't get it and refuse to look at the writing on the wall - 2018 was a referendum by the American people, on the wickedness permeating Our government like yeast brought by Trump the Swamp Master. Vote them ALL out in 2020. America needs a Democratic President, a Democratic House, a Democratic Senate.....We The People know a truth, and Edmund Burke said it, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men do nothing." .......... Mr. Cummings thank you and please keep shining sonlight light on the Swampy moldy and mildew riddled GOP.
Thomas Renner (New York)
Trump and the GOP believe they can decide when a law applies and to who. If you are a DEM you are guilty of everything, if you support Trump you my do whatever you want and no law applies to you. Sounds like a banana republic.
Christy (WA)
Long overdue. She should be arrested, charged and prosecuted, preferably with her husband as the chief prosecutor.
Paul-A (St. Lawrence, NY)
In the words of our esteemed Administration: Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!
Sheila (3103)
"“The report is outrageous, it’s unprecedented, it’s unfair and it’s just wrong,” Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio, the committee’s top Republican, said, arguing that Mr. Kerner’s office “doesn’t like the fact Ms. Conway is conservative.” “She’s being targeted because she is good at what she does, and this is why this should not stand,” Mr. Jordan said." Yeah, right, keeping telling yourself that lie, Gym Jordan. You have no room here for the high ground given your shady past.
Indy1 (California)
Violating the Hatch Act is quite serious. We used to laugh when Al Gore left his office and used a pay phone across the street to make calls that would violate the Act if made on a Government phone. Ms. Conway has by presumption violated the Act based on the OSC’s recommendation. Her refusal to testify goes a long way towards proving her violation. She deserves to be fired and barred from further Government employment.
Mike (la la land)
Ironic as I have yet to hear a complete sentence from Ms. Conway since the 2016 election season. I don't ever know what she is trying to say, especially when responding to questions. She and the President should be indicted for destruction of public property...proper english language!
A.K.G. (Michigan)
The American Bar Association should act against her in any case. Disbar her if she won't obey the law.
Dawn (New Jersey)
@A.K.G. Kellyanne Conway is not a lawyer. She can't be disbarred.
Dawn (New Jersey)
Sorry, I was wrong about that. Geez. I had no idea she actually went to law school. I am speechless.
Kyle (Chicago)
She has a J.D. from George Washington Law and worked as a clerk for the DC superior court. I don’t think she ever took the bar though, so she can’t be disbarred.
Lawrence (Ridgefield)
Ms. Conway is an employee of our Federal government and subsequently her actions while on the job fall under the Hatch Act regulations. This is a fact! If she had never been made a White House employee, then all her opinions and political activity would be exempt from such inspection. Because of this issue, campaign managers are not normally appointed to administration posts unless they resign their posts and cease their political campaign activities. The result of the investigation should result in her resignation.
Peter J. Miller (Ithaca, NY)
@Lawrence Exactly. Us taxpayers are paying her salary to be a political shill for Trump. They have no shame.
Richard Walker (Maryland)
What is so striking about all of this to me is the fact that if Kellyanne Conway were a counselor in the Obama White House, the Republicans would be up in arms about her conduct. I'd like to think that Democrats would be also outraged.
Grove (California)
Did the founding fathers ever envision the possibility of a thoroughly lawless administration? It appears not, especially one with so many complicit members of the President’s party. Who could imagine that the survival of our country could be so tenuous??
Kyle (Chicago)
Considering the founding fathers were against political parties and deliberately left them out of the constitution and legitimately feared factionalism, I imagine they would be absolutely disgusted with the the state of our political system
Debra Nelson (Parkersburg, WV)
@Grove The original Founding Fathers, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and John Adams along with Sitting Bull, Geronimo, Chief Joseph and Red Cloud all looking down at this administration with utter contempt.
william (salt lake city)
@Grove I think this problem is due to party affiliation superseding institutional affiliation. I believe the framers did not envision such a thing happening and for about two centuries it seems even a Republican senator or a Democratic representative understood their role to play with respect to their institution, even when it meant going against a President that was a member of their own political party. Now that party affiliation cuts across all three branches of government (yes, even the judicial branch is now succumbing to this, because parties in power specifically pick judges now according to how they predict they will rule), institutional loyalty is going by the wayside and or checks and balances are not working as well as they should.
SenDan (Manhattan side)
Get on with it. These subpoenas have not been answered by four individuals. Time to follow the law and arrest them and start the impeachment process. This should be done asap before Mueller shows-up and takes the 5th. Pelosi is slow-walking all of this and has got it all wrong. Also, word from the Inside is that Pelosi has an announcement to make now that the first six months mark of her speakership has come (July 4). If she reneges on her promise a whole lot of progressives are gonna drop their support for her and her base will fracture. Is this what Nadler is waiting for?
Ironmike (san diego)
The law and order GOP is for law and order where it implicates non-republicans, period.
Duffman (DC)
Hold them in contempt. We should arrest people who break the law.
MN Student (Minnesota)
We are witnessing the destruction of our democracy in real time by the Trump administration, the GOP and their financial backers, as well as the Democrats' inaction. The damage done to the trust in our system of justice is lasting and erodes the foundation of the society we live in. When the House issues a contempt order and the first traitor is dragged by the Sgt. at Arms before the subpoena-issuing committee, then there may be a glimpse of a light at the end of the tunnel.
John (Poughkeepsie, NY)
So, now the argument from the GOP: when (not if) I break the law, it doesn't matter, because if you enforce the law, it lays bare your anti-conservative bias! Following this logic, conservatives cannot be found guilty of any crime at all. Flawless, Mrs. Conway; and I wish to thank you for clearing up what is otherwise such a confusing mess of seeing the GOP break the law and undermine the U.S. constitution with seeming abandon. The law exists for liberals to follow and the GOP to tread upon gleefully! How lovely! Nothing about free speech being guaranteed (nor any right enshrined in the US Constitution) makes is ok to abuse a position of power to exert undue influence on politics when you hold your position to advance the people of the nation--that is why the Hatch Act exists. The lawlessness of this administration is so flagrant that I am genuinely confused as to why the congress has not trotted-out the sargeant at arms yet; if you can ignore a congressional subpoena, you can ignore the law...I cannot be the only one who sees troubling precedents here.
Norman Dupuis (CALGARY, AB)
Arrest her and film the perp walk. Broadcast it on every news channel in your country. Maybe then people will start realizing they are not above the law.
SA (01066)
Perhaps President Trump now has, in Ms. Conway, his Oliver North.
A. Stanton (Dallas, TX)
There ought to be special medals struck up -- perhaps with oak leaf clusters and red, white and blue ribbons -- for men like George Conley. Married to women like his wife who are bright, quick-witted and not-unattractive, but capable of turning on their husbands in a minute and devouring them whole for no apparent reason, like sea lampreys and river monsters would. I’d call it the Kellyanne Award for conspicuous bravery displayed during very trying times for the country.
Doro Wynant (USA)
@A. Stanton: That's both sexist and inaccurate. 1. They're equally matched, and until recently equally repulsive: They're both big-time, prominent conservatives (he was rabidly on the attack for Bill Clinton). It took Mr. Conway -- a lawyer, for heaven's sake -- far too long to finally speak up about the lawbreaker-in-chief. So he's no angel. 2. To suggest that he's the long-suffering husband w-o knowing anything about their personal life is to rely on a misogynistic trope that should've been retired 40 years ago. And why haven't you proposed a comparable medal for the long-suffering wives/partners of the equally awful, or even worse, men? DJT, Ross, Moore, Mnuchin, Bannon, Stone, Giuliani, D. Hunter, etc. times a thousand. Criticize the appalling KAC for her participation in and support of a corrupt, dangerous, harmful admin -- but don't do it in a stereotypically woman-bashing way. That puts you in the same camp as DJT.
Alan C. (Boulder)
Don’t fret, this isn’t going anywhere.
Regards, LC (princeton, new jersey)
Eventually she’ll join the folks at Fox, perhaps getting an exclusive of Mr. Trump once he’s incarcerated.
Robert Detman (Oakland)
Just like everyone else on his administration, she'll ignore this, and nothing will come of it. Move along, folks.
Bob M (Whitestone, NY)
Susan McDougal served 18 months for contempt and obstruction of justice. Why are these crooks acting with impunity, and laughing while they do?
Voter (NoVa)
I am beyond tired of this administration made up of grifters, thugs, and traitors. When will it end? How will it end? It’s not like the Dems have a slam dunk. Wish I was able to move to another country. I love my country, though, which makes it all the more sad.
Meusbellum (Montreal)
@Voter I feel your pain. I'm a dual (US/Canada) national and moved back to Canada when Trump was elected. Frankly, I'd gladly renounce my citizenship in a heartbeat if the U.S. did not make it insanely expensive. In Canada, I fill out a form, pay $100 CAD and I'm no longer Canadian, in the U.S., it cost close to $3,000 and the IRS wants you to pay taxes on what they think your home and pension will be worth....after you renounce. That cash grab is just so....American.
blgreenie (Lawrenceville NJ)
Contempt of Congress? Does that not imply agreement by both House and Senate? If so, won't happen. The House vote isn't something Ms. Conway will take any more seriously than the requests to cooperate which she happily ignores. Americans seem to like divided government and this is the price.
Phil Mc Ginn (Florida)
@blgreenie The Hatch Act can be prosecuted.
Michael (Boston)
Kellyanne Conway and about half the people in this administration (including the president) belong in federal prison for violations of the Hatch Act, ethics laws, tax evasion, fraud, and interference in ongoing criminal inquiries. The sooner the quicker. Only Justin Amash (R from Grand Rapids, Michigan, Trump country) joined Democrats in voting for the subpoena. As far as I am concerned, the other Congressional Republicans are complicit in this administration's crimes. I'm angered by the lack of decency and adherence to the law that passes for normal among Republicans today.
Know/Comment (Trumbull, CT)
One day, not too far off in the future, Conway's children will be sitting in a college Ethics class, in which Conway will be cited as an example of a person who has none.
Sue (Maine)
Let’s hope your right.
common sense advocate (CT)
The Trump smorgasbord of ethical violations is so overwhelmingly vast, with so many choices - it's amazing to me that they were able to hone in on Conway's…
X (Wild West)
45 will just pardon her, but if a prison sentence is the conclusion of due process here, then dole it out. I am hungry for some “usual order,” as John McCain put it. I am confident I am not alone.
Kasten (Medford Ma)
So this has played out as Congress: We demand you testify! Conway: No! Congress: Here's a subpoena, now testify! Conway: No! And the final act: Congress: We find you in CONTEMPT! Conway: So What! I am like sooo scared. Is this going to go on my Permanent Record too? Unless congress figures out how compel testimony (jail time? fines?) this is nothing more than a really bad political soap opera.
JM (San Francisco)
@Kasten This brouhaha is all so obviously orchestrated by Kellyanne for publicity and to divert attention from her pathetic boss and his rapidly declining poll numbers. Remember, she's a former pollster.
Jbugko (Pittsburgh, pa)
There's no dispute over her guilt. She broke the law, publicly. She's violated the law, put her in cuffs and set a date for a jury trial. Why are we treating these people as though they're entitled to break our laws. Enough already. She needs to be physically removed from the premises and await a trial. If she gets out on bail, she should wear an ankle monitor. So sick of this. She's flagrantly in violation of United States laws. If she disagrees, she should explain to a judge and jury why she disagrees. PERIOD.
Fredd R (Denver)
I worked for county and state government, and every government employee would take vacation time when they did campaign work. The deflection and outright lie that Ms. Conway's 1st Amendment rights are being violated are so outrageous as to be laughable. The unfortunate fact is that Trump's supporters either don't know or don't care about the law. It's a cult of personality where the rules never apply to their tribe. The worst of it is having seasoned representatives and senators actually backing up this narrative of lies in order to further their political ambitions. Shame on them for distorting truth and bald-faced lying.
Andy (Salt Lake City, Utah)
@Fredd R I've worked for state and county government as well. Under no circumstances were you ever allowed to express a partisan opinion in a non-elected capacity. I was told explicitly in no uncertain terms from day one to check my politics at the door. I would have been escorted off capitol grounds before the end of the day if I had tried one tenth of what Conway has already done. My director would then spend the next year apologizing for the misconduct. This was under a conservative administration too. One way or the other, Conway has got to go. I can't say I'd be sorry to see her dragged out.
Change Happens (USA)
Fred’s I was a state government employee. Ditto!!
CPBS (Kansas City)
Kelly Ann Conway and the entire White House are the epitome of, "Don't Tread On Me" [while I/we tread all over you and rationalize and justify our sense of entitlement to lie cheat and steal and then gas light as if we aren't doing exactly what we're accused of doing.] Kelly Ann Conway, perversely and shamelessly hides behind defenses reserved for legitimate victims; classic malignant narcissist reversal-tactics, just like her boss, shaming her accusers, essentially a "she's not my type" argument. This administration represents the worst personalities available to humankind.
PeterW (New York)
It is interesting how the White House thinks that they are being hassled by Democrats. But what do they expect when Conway and other members of the Trump administration stick a thumb in the eye of those who try to enforce ethics rules. If there is one thing good to say about Trump, he sure has tested our political system. It is just as good to see that some Democrats are trying to hold him accountable.
Roy (Florida)
We'll get to see how large is the universe of "alternative facts" if she shows up to testify. I can hardly wait. Will I live long enough to hear half of it? Her testimony and the House's response may become precedent-setting. Is it the courts that have authority over her clearly illegal behavior useing the the criminal tort system? Or does Congress, through its impeachment and conviction powers have any effective ability to control egregiously bad behavior in the executive branch? Senator McConnell has bragged on many occasions up to recently, that the republicans today can have their most long lasting and pervasive influence through judicial appointments. So, we can infer the courts may not be as impartial as congress. So, now we get to see how those check and balances in our democracy will protect us from grifters and tyrants. Let's hope those checks and balances are still working and well greased.
John Lewis (Fish creek, WI)
The Democratic Committee is compiling a long and impressive list of the all-encompassing obstruction of Congress's Constitutionally authorized responsibility to of oversight of the executive branch. It seems Trump is too dense grasp the obvious.The Dems are building a very strong court case against his unprecedented obstructionism. Of course, Trump doesn't like it. He wants to crown himself King and simply ignore all the laws and norms that safeguard our Democracy, and rule without limitations. There is a reason the American people decisively voted the GOP out of the House majority, and this serves as a perfect example of why that happened. It's only a matter of time before the courts smack him down. Even a Conservative court can see through this two-bit con game.
AgentG (Austin)
It's hard to imagine that hubby George Conway is not fully aware of these violations of federal law, and aware of the obstructive reaction by trump. But how does he square his wife's active involvement and culpability? How can he support her thumbing her nose to Congress?
Kevin (Minneapolis)
I can't imagine how interesting it would be to sit at the dinner table of George and Kellyanne. I'd like to think Mr. Conway is especially vocal because his wife is unable to express her true feelings except as, perhaps, the anonymous author of the Sept 5, 2018 NYT opinion piece declaring her resistance inside the WH. I'd like to think someone so close to the president has some sort of moral compass and only ACTS as if she doesn't and does it for the benefit of the country.
Jethro Pen (New Jersey)
@Kevin Agreed. But isn't the same true if less potentially "harmful" of folks with way less proximity to anyone like a president, who act that way for no discernible benefit.
Mayda (NYC)
@Kevin I have also often wondered if she authored the OpEd, because how could she be so morally and intellectually compromised while married to George Conway? If they are indeed, executing a brilliant piece of political guerilla warfare, she deserves an Oscar.
Doro Wynant (USA)
@Kevin: I strongly disagree. 1. If she had strong negative feelings about DJT, she would have left his admin. -- she'd be in demand elsewhere in the conservative world. 2. Both Conways were strong supporters of DJT in the beginning, but something prompted G. to finally acknowledge the worst in DJT. (I don't think it has anything to do with his not being part of the admin.) 3. His recent piece in the WaPo notes that he's a lawyer in New York; I wonder whether they're no longer sharing the DC home. Nothing like having two rabidly ambitious, blood-lust-y, modern conservatives (= the end justifies the ugliest of means, always) in the same home ----> divorce. I understand the wish to believe that someone near enough to DJT to (maybe) curb his worst impulses is actually working on behalf of the country, but believing that anyone in the current admin is capable of that is dangerous. Underestimating the depth of the worst of the GOP is why we're in this mess: decades of roiling by the Koch brothers; pandering to the ugliest impulses by Bannon; who-knows-how-much underhandedness by Roger Stone, who delights in proclaiming himself a dirty-trickster. The GOP has become the party of the ugliest parts of human nature -- not just zero compassion / empathy / foresight, but dismissal of, and contempt for, playing by the rules. The GOP literally does not belong in society, because not-playing-by-agreed-upon-rules equals the end of society.
LFK (VA)
Congress needs to get serious and jail these people who don't show.
Misplaced Modifier (Former United States of America)
Sociopaths and hubris of the entire GOP and Trump administration: "Let me know when the jail sentence starts." —Kellyanne Conway
CB (Pittsburgh)
@Misplaced Modifier "Did you bring your hand cuffs?" -AG Barr to Speaker Pelosi.
MB (Maine)
“Even if the Hatch Act applies, our position is, I haven’t violated it.” Oh good grief. A shining example of everything that is wrong today. This administration thinks they are above the law. Smug, arrogant, stupid. All of them.
Sue (Maine)
Yes just like are last governor here in Maine. Vote Susan Collins out.
LS (Maine)
@Sue I donated to Sara Gideon yesterday. I'm done with the Susan Collins moderate-when-McConnell-lets-her-be act.
MRose (Looking for options)
@MB Ah, but if she says it out loud, it must be true. The first rule of Trumpism -- nothing is a lie if you say it out loud.
East Coast (East Coast)
She needs to be put in jail
George (San Rafael, CA)
Lock her up!
Martin Daly (San Diego, California)
She "failed to show to a meeting"? What does that mean?
Sarah Verneuille (Wading River, NY)
Some good news! Yay!
John Graybeard (NYC)
We now have a clear example of the President violating his Constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws. So why not impeachment now?
sedanchair (Seattle)
She belongs in prison. Now, we'll find out if our system is too weak to make that happen.
MRose (Looking for options)
There are several things Ms. Conway and Mr. Trump (and his entire administration) don't understand. Ethics is one of them. Right & wrong is another. Facts are clearly a mystery to all of them. The way the US Constitution works is on the list as well. Nothing would be more satisfying than to find Ms. Conway in contempt and to see her thrown in jail. Well, impeaching Trump might be more satisfying, but Kellyanne Conway in jail is a close second.
Lost in Space (Champaign, IL)
Do you swear to tell the truth... The what?
Jeremy (New York)
@Lost in Space She'll swear to offer alternative truth!
RMW (New York, NY)
@Lost in Space Let us see how well her use of "...alternative facts" will serve her.
lieberma (Philadelphia PA)
So the Witch hunt continues. No need for her to testify. It appears that anything going on in the WH is subject to testimony or so the leftist liberals think. The writing is on the wall. Trump is going to be re-elected as POTUS for a second term. Go ahead leftist democrats the more you wine and subpoena WH personal the chances of Trump being reelected increase. Since Trump was elected there was not one bright idea put forward by the demos only schemes and Vendetta (Kavano being the epitope followed by the Muller scheme). I always voted demos not in 2020. Trump, Kellyanne Conway, Bar and whoever else you try to subpoena are trump supporters heroes. Nothing will budge our conviction to support Trump. He is the Man not Winning Schumer ,Bernie, or Walker, thier 15 min of fame will soon disappear.
Craig (NYC Area)
@lieberma There is a LAW, called the Hatch Act, which has been on the books for many years, that she is plainly violating. Is it too much to ask that the law be enforced, or at least that the repeat offender recognize her illegal activity and stop it? Of course, if the AG is a partisan who does not believe that laws should be enforced when they are broken by members of the Party of Trump, then it is not a law, and we are not a nation of laws (except when the king wants a law enforced). We have a king, and he and his follower are above the law. Long live KING TRUMP! Lock up his opponents. Do away with the courts and legal system. Our King and heavenly father, Trump, will decide what is permissible and what is not. HE ALONE can save us from the elite liberals. Thank God for this gift to us.
Sarah Wilson (westfield)
@lieberma Maybe you didn't read the article. The person, Mr. Kerner, who stated that Ms. Conway should be fired was appointed by President Trump in 2017. Its not the Democrats who started this fight.
Lorem Ipsum (DFW, TX)
More wine? No thanks; I believe you've had enough.
Oliver (Dallas)
“Even if the Hatch Act applies, our position is, I haven’t violated it.” - Conway. Did she contradict herself in the same sentence? If you acknowledge that it applies, that would seem to suggests that you know that you're in violation. SMH
Doro Wynant (USA)
@Oliver: It's eerily similar to DJT's "[E. Jean Carroll] isn't my type, and I didn't do it."
T (Oz)
Good. That’s been coming for a while.
James (Savannah)
Correction, we beat him at the ballot box last time; we’ll do it again this time. This Roseanne Barr-style (no relation?) admin is as inspiring as the congress that refuses to uphold. What a sorry lot of peroxide people.
actualintent (oakland, ca)
Just what in the heck does this mean? "Even if the Hatch Act applies, our position is, I haven’t violated it." If it "applies" to you, than means you violated it.
Bassman (U.S.A.)
A flagrant flouter of the law, so typical of the "best people" installed by this criminal administration. And this was the finding by a Trump appointee (Kerner)! The rule of law must be upheld. Hold her in contempt and throw her in jail, the sooner the better.
Edward Allen (Spokane Valley)
I have nothing but contempt for Ms. Conway.
The View From Downriver (Earth)
I guess someone on the House panel reads the Times Editorials! :)
AWENSHOK (HOUSTON)
She fits right in with the rest of the 'scofflaws' the so-called president surrounds himself with. But hopefully, she'll be able to continue her work to identify the perps behind the Bowling Green Massacre - from her JAIL CELL.
Look Ahead (WA)
"...they want to chill freedom of speech because they don’t know how to beat him at the ballot box, Ms. Conway said..." With all of her spinning and deflecting, Ms. Conway has apparently lost touch with the reality that Trump already lost at the ballot box in 2018, when a historic number of midterm voters flipped 40 seats to the Democrats. That's why we have a flood of subpoenas for Trump officials. But the Trump Administration has a strategy here, to continue the outrageous behavior right through the 2020 elections. This will help to ensure a historic turnout of younger and female voters... for Democrats. Sometimes when you spin so much you get dizzy and disoriented, like Conway and Sanders. Then you can't distinguish fact from fiction or reality from your own fantasies.
John R. (Atlanta, Ga)
When she lies like a rug and sneers about it, I guess that is politics. But, when she breaks the law and sneers about it, it is not just contempt of congress. It is contempt for America.
leanguy (long island, ny)
As always: subpoena, hold in contempt, arrest. That's the only way to drive this home if people end up in the lock up. And why is it taking so long to drive this charade to a conclusion in the SCOTUS? Get it done already!
Chris I (NY)
She should be fired, but Trump will never do it.
steve w (austin tx)
This is getting to a fever pitch; she is clearly in violation of the law and if she is found in contempt, let's jail her to bring it all to a boil. Lock her up indeed
Patty O (Florida)
Republicans will say anything, do anything, and hurt anyone to push their personal agenda. Trump wouldn't fire Conway unless she openly betrays him. And I don't see that ever happening. Conway can smile, give a wink and brazenly lie like no one I've ever seen. It's stunning. As much as she disgusts me, I still have to admit that she will probably be the most frustrating witness before the democrats as of yet. She is as cool as a cucumber and very, very cunning.
Lorem Ipsum (DFW, TX)
Do they realize who they're dealing with? This is the Presidential Consort we're talking about.
Howard Herman (Skokie, Illinois)
Ms. Conway said she has not violated the law so why is she ducking the hearing? Surely she should be confident and proud to be heard at such a hearing as she has nothing to be afraid of. No reason to hide behind Donald Trump's coattails, Ms. Conway. Show up and be heard.
MRose (Looking for options)
@Howard Herman Maybe her husband is willing to bring her to the hearings himself.
Stuart (New York, NY)
If she doesn't comply, the Congress has the power to fine and/or jail her. If they don't do it, they will have failed their constituents and the country.
NotSoCrazy (Massachusetts)
Thank you Justin Amash of Michigan for being willing to stand up to Trump and the rest of the GOP. Your integrity is a shining ray of hope in these otherwise dark times.
Dan Stackhouse (NYC)
Conway will definitely not comply with the subpoena, she believes, as does most of this administration, that she is above the law. I hope that Congress not only holds her in contempt, but sends her to jail. Direct punishment is the only way any Trump staffer will be taught that they are not above the law. It's worked for Manafort and Cohen, it'll work for Conway too.
MRose (Looking for options)
@Dan Stackhouse Of course she believes she is above the law. The guys she's working for has successfully been above the law since before we took office. Why shouldn't she believe she'll get away with it. Members of the GOP aren't about to find their spines for this one.
Larry (Union)
And after Conway is held in contempt of Congress, then what? Will we have to endure more stern speeches by members of the House, brief interviews on MSNBC and Meet the Press? Or will we see someone take ACTION and show the world what happens to someone who breaks the law and willfully defies Congress?
Nate (St Paul MN)
And when she refuses to honor the subpoena, throw her in jail. It is long past time for softball.
SC (NYC)
@Nate Throw her in jail? Who? Barr? Don’t hold your breath.
Sambam (California)
Kellyanne Conway is free to say what she wants as long as she is not on the taxpayer’s payroll. Once she takes a position in government, her salary is being paid by you and me, and she cannot use her position for partisan purposes. Is that so hard to understand? Or do these people have such low regard for principles and laws that they just don’t care? Either way these actions reflect the current Republican Party and it’s leader Donald Trump’s contempt for the US constitution. Trump and the Republican Party need to be roundly defeated in every race from President to dogcatcher in 2020!
Mathias (NORCAL)
@Sambam I absolutely agree. They have zero concept if being a public “servant” and that duty requires a sacrifice of ones liberties and rights to be a good steward and administer the government. It’s a concept that is beyond their capacity and means they shouldn’t be in power anywhere on the planet.
Greg (Dior)
@Sambam "Or do these people have such low regard for principles and laws that they just don’t care?"......BINGO!!!!!
Paul (Ithaca)
“Even if the Hatch Act applies..." This embodies the underlying premise of everyone in Trump's orbit - The law does not apply to us! Has there ever been an administration whose personnel have so violated the law, so blatantly? This is not merely a rhetorical question.
AJBF (NYC)
Sorry for the ignorance, can someone explain what are the consequences of being held in contempt by the House? The government officials currently being held in contempt seem not to give a hoot about it.
T (Oz)
Special Counsel Kerner, a veteran Issa person nominated by Trump, actually has a functional backbone, unlike the supine GOP Senate! Refreshing.
Mr. Bantree (USA)
“Even if the Hatch Act applies, our position is, I haven’t violated it.” This in a nut shell is the core moral deficit that pervades the Trump administration and is reflected on down from Trump himself. She's saying that even if you saw me violate the Hatch act I didn't violate the Hatch act. Trump is the master of this sort of mind game and Kellyanne is the disciple. As to her freedom of speech rights there's not a workplace in America where you can just say whatever you want while on the job. There are rules and regulations for a reason and if I were to flaunt them at my workplace HR would be escorting me to the door .
ChrisH (Earth)
@Mr. Bantree, is Trump really a master of mind games, or is it really his audience that makes it seem so? I'd suggest it is easy to play mind games with the mindless.
Darrell (CT)
"Call me when the subpoenas are served".
Mark (Cleveland, OH)
Honestly, she belongs in prison....she has repeatedly broken the law, and believes that she is untouchable. I will enjoy the video where she is being arrested for not showing up for the subpoena. She, along with a few others, is directly responsible for attempting to destroy this country...and she needs to be held accountable!
Lorem Ipsum (DFW, TX)
"[She] believes that she is untouchable." All true, but enough about George.
Zigzag (Oregon)
I am waiting for this to be batted away by the administration just like everything else. There really is no accountability and too few seems to care all that much. Apathy is a dangerous state.
Yves (Brooklyn)
Is it so hard to uphold your Constitutional duty?
ChrisH (Earth)
@Yves, true, it shouldn't be difficult for any public servant. Unfortunately, we have too few public servants and far too many politicians.
Grove (California)
@Yves Unfortunately, the Trump Administration will probably tell her to ignore the subpoena. This is a totally lawless administration. They may have to actually start locking them up.
Mike E (NY, NY)
They weren't ethics law violations, they were "alternative facts".
Mathias (NORCAL)
@Mike E Also called lies. But the lies aren’t the ethical issue are they. Maybe you should dig a little deeper for insight into ethics.
Rob Brown (Keene, NH)
And when she refuses to attend? Contempt of Congress? Here is a suggestion. Forget about your re-election and do your sworn duties and protect the Constitution. The American voter will remember that on poling day.
Boxengo (Brunswick, Maine)
@Rob Brown How can Republicans seriously discuss defending the Constitution when their reckless leader regularly desecrates it and demonstrates no knowledge of it? Checks and Balances? Transparency? Honesty and Integrity? Bypassing Congressional appropriation power? Making treaties and heading towards war without Congressional approval. Come on, answer up.
Steve (Seattle)
I've seen the tapes of Conway opening defying the Hatch Act and dismissing it entirely. She needs to be put in her place, out the door with the other corrupt people in this administration.
Ninbus (NYC)
@Steve "She needs to be put in her place, out the door with the other corrupt people in this administration." That'll leave about three people standing....including the janitor. NOT my president
John McLaughlin (Bernardsville, NJ)
Trump went right from DC swamp to DC cesspool.
SParker (Brooklyn)
@John McLaughlin I think he is draining the swamp to make room for his own swampy creatures.