Japan Fears Being Sidelined by Trump on Trade and North Korea

Apr 18, 2018 · 60 comments
Ruth Anne (Mammoth Spring, AR)
Trump taints everything he touches and cannot be trusted. I am embarrassed every time Trump opens his mouth as a representative of our country.
John (New York)
Important note: Japanese “person” ?!?!? It may be only a norm, but it is vital and must be observed.
Steamboater (Sacramento, CA)
Wouldn't be surprising if Trump stabbed Japan in the back. He has no allegiances to anyone or anything but himself.
Barbarra (Los Angeles)
Prime Minister Abe was insulted by tariffs and the omission of the Japanese from the N Korean talks. Japan should be wary - Trump is not trustworthy.
T.R.Devlin (Geneva)
Japan and South Korea are soon going to learn what the phrase "America first" means (something the Europeans have been learning over the past year)...
Josh (Tokyo)
Let’s face it: Mr. T’s US thinks and behaves as an big extension of Trump Organization. Mr. T would do anything to get Japan to a bilateral trade deal favorable to his organization including its withdrawal from TPP. With this expectation, we have been forced to wonder if removal of Japan from the hit list of the recent steel aluminum tariffs is possible. This choice of arm twisting method should motivate Japan to examine whether it is to deal with the US as an important ally or to deal with Trump Organization (with a big banner of Transaction and His Family First).
expat (Japan)
Japan hasn't played a significant role in international policy formulation in living memory. That it should feel left out now is down to wounded pride, not because the Abe government has anything new of consequence to contribute to the discussion.
Steve Jackman (Tokyo)
Trump is a seasoned businessman. Unlike past U.S. presidents, he actually has a much deeper understanding of Japan which he has gained as a result of being a businessman with firsthand knowledge of Japanese buisness practices going back to the 80s. People like Trump who have had actual business dealings with the Japanese always have a very different view of Japan as compared to people like Obama whose views on Japan are formed almost entirely from a distance and are of a purely academic nature. Trump understands that Abe's brownnosing is just a regular part of the Kabuki theater which is standard practice in Japanese business and political circles. He's fully aware that such Kabuki theater is straight out of the Japanese playbook which Japanese leaders have used successfully for decades on past American presidents who have been naive about Japan. Japan has been the proverbial tail wagging the dog. It's unfair business practices have resulted in huge trade surplus with the U.S. (second largest after China), extremely closed markets, a hostile and unfair environment towards American companies trying to do business in Japan, and its getting away without paying its fair share of costs for its national defense provided by the U.S. armed forces. The difference this time is that Trump sees through these shallow tactics, so all of Abe's song-and-dance and smoke-and-mirrors are completely ineffective on him and may infact backfire by making Trump's resolve even stronger.
RC (Ny)
You are giving him way too much credit, deep understanding of anything is NOT what this man is about. Just money, for himself.
RC (Ny)
Such biased and uninformed opinion.
Steve Jackman (Tokyo)
Sure, what do I know about Japan? I'm just an American expat who has been living in Japan for over a decade, including having worked here professionally for many years at some of the largest Japanese and multinational corporations in Tokyo. But, I guess you must know Japan better than me.
Steve Jackman (Tokyo)
Japan is excluded from the North Korean negotiations because it is irrelevant and has nothing to contribute. The key players are China and South Korea, so it makes sense for the U.S. to include only these countries in the negotiations. The interests of the U.S. and Japan are NOT alligned in regards to NK. This is because Japan does not want a peaceful resolution so it cannot be an honest broker. Japan's two main adversaries in the region are SK and China. A belligerent NK is detrimental to both these countries and their relationship with the U.S. This helps Japan stay geopolitically relevant in the region and it can also leverage this role to get special trade concessions from the U.S. This is why Japan has always been extremely hawkish in its approach towards NK and why it continues to encourage America to take a hardline stance instead of trying diplomacy with Kim Jong Un. Japan's involvement in any negotiations would make them less likely to succeed. For example, Japan keeps bringing up the abductees which is moronic and really should be a non-issue. It involves thirteen Japanese who ended up in NK decades ago under uncertain circumstances and who have since made their lives in NK, including getting married and having kids there. What kind of resolution is Japan looking for? The only reason the Japanese public is even aware of this issue is because the Japanese national broadcaster NHK keeps bringing it up ad nauseam on an almost daily basis in its TV and other news.
John Campbell (Oakland CA)
You forgot about Koizumi. "Always" is a tricky word.
expat (Japan)
Good point - most of the Japanese abductees were kidnapped in Europe by fellow Japanese who had moved to the DPRK in the '70`s and '80`s to reunite with members of the Yodogo hijackers, and who were sent on these missions by Kim Il Sung in the hopes they would help establish a beach head for the "juche" philosophy in Japan. A new book from U Hawaii Press, "Destiny", tells the story of the Yodogo hijackers and subsequent kidnappings in Europe that the Japanese govt refuses to publicly acknowledge.
RC (Ny)
Where did all these distorted opinions about Japan suddenly come from? yeah and Trump had a plan all along and is the one that enabled the meeting with NK too. Amnisia is an epidemic in this country.
Susan (Susan In Tucson)
I feel sort of sorry for Mr. Abe. Doesn't he know he's yesterday's toy?
mariamsaunders (Toronto, Canada)
"Mr. Trump’s reversal on the trade deal, less than a week after he suggested the United States could enter the pact, reinforced the view that he sees Japan’s interests as expendable." I would say, rather, that trump sees EVERYONE ELSE's interests as expendable. He is concerned only with self-aggrandisement. You can't trust him on anything. His words are puffs of hot air, which blow with the direction of the wind - and then evaporate.
Colenso (Cairns)
Oh cry me a river! When the Japanese government has the fortitude to ignore Japan's Militaristic Ultra Right Nationalists and acknowledges, recognises and apologises fully, without equivocation, for all Japan's war crimes, then I and millions of others in the Far East and in Commonwealth countries, as well as in the USA, might feel more sympathy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes
narda (ca)
This is diplomacy on the cheap. Ugly Americans sitting at a hotel for lunch with dignitaries. In other administrations we respected other countries by rolling out the full court press rather than stuffing the dignitary in a room full of Mar A Lago guests. Shame!
Mark (New York)
Mr. Abe - Don’t count on it. You’re dealing with Mafia Don, who burns everybody who enters into his orbit.
Bill Langeman (Tucson, AZ)
Meanwhile the U.S. is locked out of the TPP and our farmers are losing markets although that's both enjoyable and just as they were big Trump supporters.
Steve Jackman (Tokyo)
Our American farmers have been losing to Japan for a long time and TPP would not change that much. Japan imposes extremely high tariffs on most American agricultutal products, including tariffs of as much as 778 percent on imported rice. Japan's non-tariff barriers are even worse. For example, it buys a small amount of imported rice according to WTO rules. Most of this is American rice, including the high-grade japonica variety, which is the type favored by Japanese consumers. But, the Japanese government makes sure that this rice never makes it to Japanese tables in households or restaurants, because it is given away to developing countries as foreign aid, used as animal feed or for making rice crackers. Why does the government wastes such perfectly good high quality imported rice? The answer is simple. For decades, the Japanese government has been telling consumers that imported American rice is not as good as Japanese rice. Because of such disinformation, most Japanese now believe this, even though they have never tasted American rice. So, the Japanese govt. gives away imported rice as foreign aid, or uses it for rice crackers and animal feed to keep Japanese consumers in the dark. If the Japanese don't have a chance to try U.S. rice for themselves, they'll never know that it is just as good as Japanese rice and that the government has been feeding them misinformation all along. This issue has been covered in several pieces published in The LA Times going back decades.
expat (Japan)
Actually, the Nokyo, or JA, the National Agricultural Cooperative was set up under the auspices of the ministry of Farms and Fisheries when Abe's grandfather was PM as a vote siphoning machine. JA provided seedlings, fertilizer, banking services, etc and tied the farmers to the land just as if they were peasants or indentured servants. They were unable to leave the co-op because they would be unable to market their rice. In exchange for a subsistence-level existence in post-war Japan, they surrendered their political and personal independence, and traded their votes for the ruling party for guarantee of lifetime servitude.
Demosthenes (Chicago)
Abe knows Trump is easily manipulated by praise and is acting accordingly to advance the interests of Japan.
Jacquie (Iowa)
"Mr. Trump wrote: “While Japan and South Korea would like us to go back into TPP, I don’t like the deal for the United States.” But South Korea is not currently a party to the agreement." This is a typical example of Trump not knowing anything or bothering to learn anything. He doesn't even know which countries are in the TTP or what the TTP does. Mr. Abe's has probably realized that Trump is a con man spewing garbage and no facts.
Wanderer (Stanford)
Or, South Korea may like to see the U.S. return to the agreement even while they aren’t in it themselves...nah, it’s all black and white.
Jacquie (Iowa)
Trump hasn't bothered to use diplomats but spies to deal with North Korea. The plan as I see it: go to North Korea and meet with Kim. When he won't give Trump exactly what he wants, he will then have Bolton and Mattis assist him in attacking North Korea.
Wanderer (Stanford)
How about you stick to tilling fields?
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
Careful, Sir. Trump may make an agreement with N.K. to allow the annexation of Japan. Just saying.
c harris (Candler, NC)
Trump is impossible to have a workable relationship with. He has no capacity to stick with any policy. Trump could well meet with Kim but Xi is angry because of Trump's trade war policies against China. Abe wants Trump to end N. Korea's nuclear threat to Japan. S. Korea wants a peace treaty with the North. Trump is thinking of god knows what.
Jean Travis (Winnipeg, Canada)
If Xi Jinping is so special to Trump, what's with the trade war?
JCAZ (Arizona)
First off, why are they meeting at Mar-a-Lago & not the White House? If Mr. Abe was wise, he'd take a lesson from Angela Merkel. She quickly recognized that she couldn't count on Trump & created a plan without him.
Concernicus (Hopeless, America)
To be invited to someone's house is considered a great honor in Japan. Trump is simply doing what he did to become successful in business. Honoring another leader.
Fe R (San Diego)
If the usage of Mar-Lago involves spending tax money on Trump's property, then one cannot equate it to the traditional sense of invitation to one's home. This would be another example of violation of the emoluments law.
miller (Illinois)
Mar-a-Lago is a resort, not his home. His home has a golden throne.
Fe R (San Diego)
Japan, South Korea and other Southeast Asian countries should reasonably be wary about Trump's North Korean meeting and strategy. It's always been a Me-first with this President, as the world has seen. He doesn't have any scruples in throwing anyone under the bus for his favor and advantage. And he's ferociously desperate for a big win to distract from all the scandals drowning him.
Lawrence (Washington D.C.)
I can only imagine what is going to happen to our basing agreements. This seems to be a replay of the British Empire after WW2, or perhaps it is a final act of the west being kicked out of the Far East. The British, Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, and French are all long gone. Welcome to China's co-prosperity zone.
JW (The Dalles Or)
Japan needn't worry. The "treaty" if and when it materializes will be as valuable as the Iranian agreement. Nothing this country agrees to moving forward is believable. All Trumpian whims. FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP
AR (Virginia)
Japan as a nation is facing one big problem on the foreign policy front: Its current leaders decided awhile ago that subordination to the United States would ALWAYS be preferable to subordination to an authoritarian, perhaps revisionist China. Even with Donald Trump as president of the U.S., Abe & Co. appear to be sticking to this core belief. How long can this view of Japan's foreign relations go unchallenged in Tokyo? Surely there must be some Japanese who are starting to see that closer relations with China, even if that means giving in to certain demands made by China's autocratic leaders, may be preferable to being America's junior partner in everything. Is the thought of conceding to Xi Jinping really so much worse than the thought of conceding to Donald Trump or whoever succeeds him in 2021 or 2025? For a lot of Japanese at this point, probably not. Also, a word about Abe's obsession with Japanese citizens abducted and taken to North Korea over the years: Abe owes his rapid political ascendance in Japan to the revelation made by Kim Jong Il in 2002 that North Korean agents had in fact kidnapped Japanese citizens. Until 2002, Abe was just another mediocre hereditary backbencher typical of the people in the Liberal Democratic Party. But he then skillfully exploited the outraged reaction to Kim Jong Il's admission and used it to gain popularity within his party and nationwide. The abductee issue helped make Abe leader of Japan, so he can't and won't let it go.
miller (Illinois)
Abe's first mistake is to think that being "friends" with Trump is a good thing. Anyone associated with him is diminished, found to be ridiculous or criminally and morally corrupt.
Ben (Pittsburgh)
Abe-San is dealing with charges of corruption of his own in Japan. His government has been losing support among the people of Japan. There is more to be learned about his travails.
Ron (Nicholasville, Ky)
As sad as it makes me to say this; the American President Donald Trump is nothing but a self indulgent, narcissistic, con man and grifter. No foreign leader should rely upon Trump as a viable partner in any serious political endeavor. As the saying goes here in the USA "When as the last time you believed anything Trump said?"
Acey (Washington, DC)
What is trump doing at Mar-a-Lago in the middle of the week? Is it because he had to work last weekend?
Aaron (Orange County, CA)
"Mr. Abe already expended considerable domestic capital to persuade farmers — traditional supporters of his Liberal Democratic Party — to accept more foreign agricultural products as part of the TPP." In a country of 125 million people, 76% is over the age of 80 YO. Today, Japan's "farmers" are mainly foreign, imported workers from China, Korea and Vietnam. Not a staggering number of them- but enough to show the "Farm Lobby" is steadily losing influence-- Abe is smart to accept more imported produce, within 10 years there will be nobody around to grow anything.
Lawrence (Washington D.C.)
According to Bloomberg (https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/japan-s-shrinking-population) about 1/4 of the population is over 65.
Joe From Boston (Massachusetts)
"Mr. Abe might be forced to engage in two-way discussions as South Korea has already done." Trump negotiated such a good deal with the South Koreans, didn't he? He got them to increase the quota on importation of American cars into Suth Korea from 25,000 to 50,000 per year. Sounds great until you understand that the US manufacturers ony sell about 12,000 American cars in South Korea per year. They cannot even get t the 25,000 limit, so what good is higher llimit? But Trump claims it is a bg win. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/business/trump-japan-american-cars.html Quote: Of the nearly five million cars and light trucks sold in Japan last year, just 15,000 were American, or 0.3 percent. If Abe tries, he can probably get Trump to agree to a similar deal, with a quta of 50,000 cars. Oh, yeah, some win. Are you tired of winning yet?
Peter (Metro Boston)
There aren't many American cars in Japan because the Japanese don't want them. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/business/trump-japan-american-cars.html “Of course American cars don’t sell in Japan,” said Mr. Masui, whose admiration for American vehicles does not extend to their manufacturers’ marketing strategies. “American cars have a bad image — they aren’t fuel-efficient, they break down,” he said. “That’s not really true anymore, but dealers don’t make an effort to convince people. I’ve never seen a TV commercial. You go to a car show, they’re not there.” The cars are certainly not on the streets. Of the nearly five million cars and light trucks sold in Japan last year, just 15,000 were American, or 0.3 percent. Toyota sells more vehicles at a single mega-dealership in California.
Still Waiting for a NBA Title (SL, UT)
Pretty much the only American car I've seen on in my trips to Japan are very high end or vintage and hard to get cars. There is basically no American cars in Japan which cost under $90K. Even then it is only a small percentage of that segment. And there are only so many people who can afford cars that expensive.
Dormouse42 (Portland, OR)
Agree with Peter. American car companies simply do not produce vehicles the Japanese public want. Probably the biggest reason is how inefficient they are. Gasoline is much more expensive in Japan than it is here in the US. Also SUVs are really too big. Not to mention the fact that Japan has highly efficient mass transit. Until US automakers start making much more efficient vehicles they will not find traction in Japan and many other countries. Huge gas guzzling cars and trucks will never be their preference.
RLW (Chicago)
Japan has seen how Trump has thrown everybody else under the bus to satisfy an immediate urge, so why not Japan? I would be afraid, too, if I had to deal with anyone as unpredictable and unprincipled as D.J.Trump.
Mike Livingston (Cheltenham PA)
Japan has been our most reliable ally for 75 years and we always seem to treat her badly. It's difficult to understand.
Lawrence (Washington D.C.)
Most reliable ally for 75 years? Australia,Canada,G.B., N.Z. don't come to mind?
Still Waiting for a NBA Title (SL, UT)
Fair point. Okay....how about most reliable non-predominately Anglo ally?
Steve Jackman (Tokyo)
What exactly has Japan ever done for the U.S. to be considered America's "most reliable ally"? Everything Japan does is in its own self-interest. Japan is the only country to have attacked the U.S. mainland by launching the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. The U.S. then spent millions of dollars to rebuild Japan into the modern country it is today. The U.S. even to this day spends millions of dollars to provide for the defense of Japan. Not having to worry about defending itself and the financial drain which comes with it has allowed Japan to pour all its resources to develop and subsidize its industry. It has then used the might of its big corporations to sell Billions of dollars worth of Japanese products to Americans while keeping its own domestic market almost entirely closed to American companies and their products. This has resulted in Japan having an annual trade surplus of 70 Billion dollars with the U.S., which is second only to China's trade surplus with the U.S. Despite this, Japan has repeatedly rejected America's calls to open up the Japanese markets to American products and to create a level playing field for American companies. It continues to have ridiculously high tariff and non-tariff barriers to keep its markets closed to American companies, while taking advantage of the open access which America offers. Does this sound like a reliable ally? As they say, with friends like this, who needs enemies!
paul (White Plains, NY)
As with the nations of Europe (excluding Great Britain), Japan is dependent on the U.S. for protection against Russia, North Korea, Iran and China. They pay little to nothing for that protection, while continuing to sell automobiles and electronics to the U.S. while importing very little from us in return. How about if Japan starts subsidizing our military efforts on their behalf, and opens their markets to U.S. products on a fair basis for a change?
Concernicus (Hopeless, America)
I do agree with Japan opening its markets, but to what effect? 25% of its population is over 65 y/o---past the buying stage for most things. Their population is known for being frugal. They save, they are not Americans who spend a lot of frivolous toys. If we want someone to truly open their markets---look to China. But everyone except the CEO's and investor class in America seems to know that is not going to happen. I will give props to the President on that issue.
N. Smith (New York City)
It appears as though Prime Minister Abe is getting his first real wake-up call of what it's like to deal with this president, now that he's about to be pushed out of the picture and replaced with a bigger, brighter toy. And no doubt the revelation of Mr. Trump's behind-the-scenes dealing with North Korea came as much of a surprise to him as it did to the rest of us who thought the virulent tweet diplomacy between the U.S. and North Koreas was literally at a dead-end. As for reviving any hope for the TTIP, Mr. Abe would be wise not to get his hopes up too high about it, since any decision Mr. Trump might make about it may instantly change again as well.
judgeroybean (ohio)
Abe is worried about Trump and trade? He wants to sidle up to Trump? Is Abe confusing our Donald with Machiavelli? Something is lost in translation.
John (PA)
President Trump flip flopped on Syria; he flip flopped on TPP; he flipped on Rex Tillerson; he flip flopped on NAFTA; he is flipping and flopping on tariffs; he tried to flip on Nikki Haley. Is Trump conducting policy for the strongest nation on earth or writing Lyrics for a Bobby Darin song.
Howard Beale (La LA, Looney Times)
He's singing them. Trump doesn't have the smarts to write his own tunes. That's where little Stevie Miller, Fox & Fiends, the base' desires, and previously porky Steve Bannon come in.