New York Today: Students in Solidarity Over Gun Violence

Mar 14, 2018 · 45 comments
Freddie (New York NY)
"A couple spots to get your Pi Day fill in New York City" I found it delightful that on a Wednesday, for Pi Day, there was actually a happy long line out the door at The Little Pie Shop on our block!
Dani (Brooklyn)
As a college student I appreciate the demonstrations and protests going on all over the country. Even if it doesn't make much of a difference it still means a lot to my generation to know people care enough to publicly voice their concerns about gun control. It's a step in the right direction.
oceanblue (Minnesota )
What an amazing moment of history, of leadership shown by the next generation of Americans. And guess what - Fox news does not even mention this on its website. They really want their followers to live in a bubble of alternative reality. It truly disgusts me what a propaganda machine the Right wing media is.
NYC Taxpayer (East Shore, S.I.)
I don't think a 'movement' led by manipulated children will matter to most voters.
NYCSandi (NYC)
You think not? I suppose you don't know much about how the US got out of Viet Nam....
B. (Brooklyn)
You have to wonder who's manipulating young people to prize guns above brains. The NRA?
Zejee (Bronx)
It matters to me. I have grandchildren and I don’t want them gunned down in school nor do I want them to be afraid to go to school.
Roland (UT)
It is sad that these kids are being used to push an agenda they don't understand and only reacting to on an emotional level.
NYCSandi (NYC)
No, Roland, this is a first-hand lesson in Democracy in action! The right to peaceful protest is what distinguishes the USA from Russia. The right to NOT join the protest is what distinguishes the USA from North Korea. These kids will soon be voters-they should be starting their civic responsibilities NOW.
Roland (UT)
They certainly have the right. My opinion is they are pawns in a much broader controversy few of them understand.
Zejee (Bronx)
Oh they understand that they don’t want any other student to be slaughtered in school. You don’t need a AR15 unless you are planning a massacre.
JM (San Francisco, CA)
Wow! So powerful. Proud to stand with these courageous kids!
Mr. Slater (Brooklyn, NY)
They have my support. But we're entertained by depictions of gun violence on television all day, every day. Americans love their violence. And then there's the issue of 18-year-olds being able to join the military, be trained on how to use and kill with these same weapons around the world. Such hypocrisy on so many levels.
Maureen Harper (Nebraska)
Students’ leaving class for 17 minutes to stand against school shootings and honor their dead age mates should be counted as community service, not cutting class.
Freddie (New York NY)
Come to think of it, isn't "cutting class" worse to have on your record (if it's ever looked at not in context a few years from now) than an innocuous-looking day's or morning's "absence"? Great catch, Maureen!
Nyalman (NYC)
It would be nice if the children who march for continued city and state support for their successful charter schools were treated with the same respect and their demands taken as seriously.
JM (San Francisco, CA)
Really? This is kids dying from gun violence, not charter schools politics.
Nyalman (NYC)
JM Unfortunately many more children's lives are destroyed by the lack of a quality education. When these children speak up and advocate for themselves and their peers their voices should also be taken seriously. It is not meant to diminish the student's advocacy today against gun violence. We can chew gum and walk at the same time.
Dani (Brooklyn)
Charter schools introduce different issues to the city environment. Many private schools rely on income from rent for charter schools to survive... but this does not have anything to do with gun control.
Gene Cass (Morristown NJAWC)
These kids have my full support.
Kristi (Brooklyn)
Wondering why the student voice representing NYC students in this article is a white male from an elite private school. The woman he is pictured with has no quotes.
Dani (Brooklyn)
Interesting analysis. As a white female student on academic scholarship myself I feel very uncomfortable with this... But maybe the woman pictured didn't want to be included. It's possible.
Freddie (New York NY)
“From the Coney Island sideshows to the Metropolitan Opera, these performers are making their big debut.” I knew the names in that Coney Island sideshow sounded familiar. I first read about it in New York Today almost a year ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/nyregion/new-york-today-swallowing-sw... Just a subway ride, but still a long way from the land of the Wonder Wheel and Nathan’s hot dogs to Mozart’s “Cosi Fan Tutte” at the Met Opera! tune of “To Doubt Dorabella” (from “Cosi Fan Tutte”) – the very first opera we learned in Prof. Gnatt’s class in my Brooklyn high school! To leave Coney Island is quite a big break Yes, quite a big break. Let’s pray this production is not a mistake At least it’s an opera that will keep us awake! To buy a good ticket for this special night I went to the site. I found in my price range the picking’s are light. I’m hoping they film it ‘cause money is tight!
Alan Chaprack (NYC)
A whole thousand students from Brooklyn will attend? I remember more than twice that from one school in East Flatbush - Tilden HS...my high school - who walked the day after Kent State and didn't need organizers to tell us how we should feel. We were joined by tens of thousands throughout the city. Kids should have been doing this, spontaneously, after every school shooting since at least Sandy Hook. It doesn't matter if the shooters are deranged kids or the national guard (Kent State) or the police (Jackson State). School is just the wrong place for firearms and students should have been on the streets for years, furious, without the need for "organizers."
Vivien Hessel (California)
Cut them some slack. They're doing it.
Owen Crowley (New York City)
This is beautiful, the participation of NYC students against gun violence. Also beautiful – zero deaths by gun in so many NYC schools over two decades. Apparently the strategy of regulating firearms and keeping school teachers and students gun free is working. Don’t let Congress and the President pass “Reciprocity,” a race to the bottom legislation that would inject fear and violence into NYC by making it legal for residents of gun permissive states carry their firearms in any state.
Freddie (New York NY)
I’ll probably stick to Pi Day and the weather among today’s features, since I’ll never have the nerve to actually write a lighthearted lyric on the gun culture - but the songwriter on the show we tried out in January had decided to completely go there and spoof gun lovers. “Gotta Give a Guy a Gun” – first 90 seconds of the demo song sampler here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8t4Q9memhI Thanks if it’s OK to link this. It went well with our (admittedly quite liberal) audience at the Actors Temple on West 47th Street. But the presentation’s producing organization admitted this one comedy song had them a bit worried, to make sure that the script make 100% clear that’s it’s a bad character and the scene was satire – which we of course did.
Thomas Stephan (Media pa)
I encourage all children and teenagers to ask any adult - "How many more children are you going to sacrifice to protect the right of another to own military assualt weapons."
Flash Sheridan (Upper East Side)
> “Though its symbol, π, is some 4,000 years old” No the Greek alphabet is considerably younger than that (roughly the 9th century BC according to Wikipedia), and the use of the letter for the quantity seems to date to AD 1647.
Tabitha (Arkansas )
Good for them. I hope students walk out, and will continue to walk out in peaceful protest. They go to school to learn, not be shot. That should be a right in America.
N. Smith (New York City)
Fine. Now we know what Mr. Myers says. But what does Sarah DeSousa have to say???
Charles Callaghan (Pennsylvania)
Yet even at the most obvious moment of despair the writings and interactions fail in the recognition of the message. These kid are screaming to not die needlessly. Not to be murdered in safe havens, like their schools. These kids are screaming at our failure as adults to protect them from harm and violent aggressive behaviour uncheck by the NRA, the politician, law enforcement and worst of all, the family. It takes a village, Hell it takes nation to rise up and change these insane times of lunatic thought and acceptable consequence of action. It is never ok to murder children and worse to find some acceptable excuse for doing so.
Joan (New York)
Thank you for including Sala Kirschner's story today. I saw"Letters to Sala" when The Barrow Group and FAB Women produced it in 2015. Sala's life was inspirational and the play combines tragedy, horror,, compassion, and humor. If you ever get the opportunity, I recommend it. (And in the interest of full disclosure, in the 2015 production my daughter played Ann)
Freddie (New York NY)
I was aware of "Letters to Sala" because my agent also represents the brilliant author of the play. This was part of the impetus for my father to get his memories as a Holocaust survivor written down, but after it was proofed, ready and even on the net, he decided that he'd like to pull back his book and keep it in the family until he and my mom are no longer here. This decision interestingly freed him up to give even more specific details. (Dad's almost 98 and still doing quite well.) So I know firsthand from my family that Sala Kirschner's story indeed was an important contribution to some others opening up about their horrific experiences, so that generations can learn to never let it happen again.
Steve (Long Island)
Everyone is against gun violence. Arm the teachers who want to pack. Train them. Pay them an extra 5k for their efforts. That is the solution. Then we will have less violence. If a student goes cray cray, the teacher can off the threat and terminate the perp That's how you save lives. Easy Breezy.
Drew (Texas)
easy till they mistakenly shoot innocent kids or someone uses the weapon these hobbyists bring to classroom with malice. the only people we should trust to protect others with firearms are those who have made it they're entire career to do so. they'll make mistakes too but far less than these hobbyists.
B. (Brooklyn)
Given some incidents, it's just as likely that a schoolteacher will go "cray cray," as you put it. Until now, teachers have only manhandled their students or seduced them with flattery or offers of better grades. I wouldn't put guns in their hands.
Jack from Saint Loo (NYC)
This is the stupidest idea I've ever heard of, and you NRA and Trump supporters are making less and less sense. What if an armed teacher goes nuts and decides to kill a bunch of students, or his principal? What's to keep an armed kid from just waiting OUTSIDE the school with his dad's assault rifle? From committing his massacre on the school bus? What are you going to do, arm the bus driver? Easy breezy, huh? For God's sake, don't you people have any common sense?
Thomas (New York)
Out of the mouths of babes. More power to these kids.
Jack Bush (Haliburton, Ontario)
You have to wonder who are the kids and who are the grownups, don't you?
Ingrid Spangler (Womelsdorf, PA)
Please, when we click on a link to read an article, have it open in a new window so I can continue to scroll down and read this page.
Lifelong Reader (NYC)
You can right click on the link to open it in a new tab or window.
Shawn's Mom (NJ)
@Ingrid, I've asked for links to open in a new window a few times before, alas it never happens. Yes, I know to right click, but it's hard to remember since I got out of the habit of doing that since almost every other site I visit opens links in a new window automatically.
Jane Doe (Washington)
Would have been nice to hear from the co-organizer also
B. (Brooklyn)
"Even so, students here inevitably feel the fear and uncertainty that follow school shootings." In my old school, we practiced "intruder drills" along with the usual fire and natural-disaster drills. But the intruder drills seemed, to me, very vivid. I used to wonder, as we crouched near the wall invisible from the windowed, locked door, whether the lacrosse sticks behind me could be used to good purpose if anyone managed to break in. It's a new world, Golda. As for Charlene McCray: She and her husband are the so-called progressive version of the so-called populist Donald Trump and his family. Bill de Blasio has been feeding off New York City for his entire career. He made Maimonides Hospital create a cushy job out of thin air for his wife who was, after all, what? A poet we'd never heard of? And now she wants to run for office. She is as qualified as many a politician, unfortunately, but one has to deplore her associates and her way of life.