Republicans use their own big guns to subvert the political process, thanks to thier own Citizen's United law and more, so it is about time the Democrats do the same.
Also, we just might be underestimating the possibility that Trump may truly be compromised. Our President has completely ignored, and even subverted, a real need to act on what is essentially an ongoing infection of our internet by Russian bots. He previously went against our FBI in admitting to computer hacking on our political process. Now, he has proven to all of us, through a porn star no less, that he is susceptible to blackmail for crimes that were listed in the Dossier. He is obstructing an FBI investigation and has his party behind him on obfuscating all sorts of norms. Last, the media and the Dems themselves are, for reasons that probably make sense, very cautious in accusing Trump and his party of what truly may be a massive conspiracy.
So, it should be clear that the rules, as they currently exist, beg for someone like Steyer. The system currently calls for a loud revolutionary with some guts as a counterbalance. Frankly, if the Republicans, who go to far greater lengths in so many ways, don't like this taste of their own medicine, they should clean up their own mess. The Democrats could follow suit in that unlikely scenario.
Mr. Steyer should save his energy and money for the next election. He might also direct his efforts in finding a viable candidate.
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I've known Tom since college. I share his views completely, but it you don't understand that all of his issue ads are thinly veiled Campaign ads, you need a new set of glasses. Originally, it was about the governor of CA, now they smack of something like President. His tactics of 'buying his way into office' and his purchase of the already active impeachment movement and his personal branding of said movement have raised the hackles of those he pledges to support. Many CA residents, especially those whose mistrust of the wealthy in politics fear that what they are seeing is exactly the same thing they have with Trump, with a liberal spin. I believe that Tom will do the right thing, but he does have a habit of buying things that were never for sale that rubs a growing number of people the wrong way.
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Mr. Steyer has my email address and I happily signed on for impeachment. As long as the power hungry GOP is in the majority it won't go anywhere, but it is reprehensible that we have Trump in the White House. Certainly his daily lying to the American people is enough to declare him unfit, and there are numerous other reasons. How can we possibly suffer through three more years with this very dangerous man in office and tweeting down the path to the collapse of our country?
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I just read an entire article about Presidential impeachment, and I did not see one specific reference to an impeachable offense; i.e., "high crimes and misdemeanors."
In Bill Clinton's case, impeachment was clear - by lying to the grand jury, Clinton had obstructed justice. Impeachment was necessary, despite the fact that Clinton was not removed from office.
For all his boorishness, vulgarity, and decidedly un-Presidential behavior, Trump has not done anything to merit impeachment.
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While futile, it's encouraging to see a wealthy Democrat with the gumption to at least call for Trump's impeachment. The points that Mr. Steyer makes about our president's stability and behavior are spot-on. Unfortunately, however, Steyer grossly overestimates congress's desire for sane, coherent governess. Those who haven't jumped wholeheartedly behind Trump cower in the corners of the Capitol.
See:
RevolutionOfReason.com
TheRogueRevolutionist.com
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Ahhh, Democrats. Leave it to the Party to exercise abundant caution, triangulate to the"safe" middle, and lose elections. Full disclosure: I'm one of Tom Steyer's 4 million petition singers. Would I like to see Trump impeached? Absolutely; today would be great. Is that going to happen? No. But, that isn't what's important now. What is important is to keep the Democratic base fired up to maximize voter turnout in November.
This looks like a replay of the old line Democratic leadership repeating its past mistakes of largely ignoring its base, and taking their votes for granted, with their shameful "Where else are they going to go?" attitude.
The danger isn't that the Democratic base will vote for Republicans. It's that they won't bother to vote at all. We can't let that happen.
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Mr. Steyer's efforts would have more purposefulness if there were an acceptable replacement for Trump. Does replacing him with Pence really justify impeachment and conviction of a disgraceful president? Pence would not offend our sensibilities and reason so regularly as Trump, but he would bring his own bag of objectionable attitudes and goals. Exchanging Trump for Pence would be exchanging chaos for Christian oppressiveness.
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Let the chips fall where they may. The entire election process has been a mistake and a bunch of amateurs such as has never been before witnessed are in power. Removing one will not undo the damage, rather it could well aggravate the problem and make things worse.
Play up the ineptitude of the present leaders (and I use plural here) and eventually their entire house of cards will collapse. I say what we need is a comprehensive strategy towards this end.
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I think keeping up the fight from the sidelines of this political strife we all face is the best option.
Trump is a debacle of a man and leader. Admittedly I have mixed emotions about his impeachment because the seat will go to Pence. Maybe' the devil you know is better than the one you don't'.
I applauded Mr. Steyer's for keeping the message alive, loud and clear. The power of our 3 houses Donald John Trump believes he holds captive has got to be taken back.
The realistic route is an historical voter turn out this year getting the house of the people back to We, the people. It won't be perfect , but it is a beginning of an end.
What's crazy is that impeachment isn't a front and center Congressional debate. Trump's support is 39%, support for impeachment is 41%, and Trump has done and said things in public to obstruct justice that Nixon got pilloried for doing secretly. Steyer is a patriot, the Republicans in Congress are traitors, and Democrats need to catch up with their rank and file, a vast majority of whom support impeachment based on what has already been made public.
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If Trump is impeached, we get Pence. Pence is far more dangerous than Trump because he actually knows what he is doing politically and can push an agenda through. For now, leave Trump in, get the Democrat vote out for the midterms and then find an effective Presidential candidate who can attractc the "middle" Republicans to win in 2020.
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Whether we are talking about Mr. Steyer, or Mr. Soros, the issue is the same. Two extraordinarily wealthy men, not chosen or elected by the American public, using their wealth to change the face of the Democratic Party. My question for each, is why do you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on these efforts, rather than doing good through social justice programs, helping the homeless situation and San Francisco- which Mr. Steyer has horrifically ignored in his own hometown, providing funding for the foster children so that they can have a life and a voice, helping organizations fight the trafficking of women and girls in the sex trade, providing safe places for young children in rough neighborhoods to play and study....? The list can go on and on. Steyers and Soros are the most fundamental examples of Hypocracy in this land. If you truly love and if you truly care about the American people then put your money where your mouth is! Change the course of the lives of people who otherwise are defenseless and have no voice, do not close a blind eye to those in need in your own community, pour out your hundreds of millions of dollars there too help them live.
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Why hasn't Trump been impeached? I am a CA democrat and I really don't understand or condone kowtowing to the autocrat/wannabe dictator and will be voting against any democrat who does-hear that Feinstein and Harris? Particularly Feinstein, as I have written to her on numerous occasions to tell her to quit if she isn't up to the battle any more. Hooray for Brad Sherman!
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For those that think tirades like "Impeach! Impeach!" or "Lock Him Up!" are unseemly, maybe switch to the republican party. Oh wait.
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What does this guy want, and what are the Democrats going to give him, for helping fund their drive to impeach Trump? And, btw, impeach for what? Being icky? Because that’s largely what it’s about, innit?
Thank goodness for Tom Steyer! He is doing what are congress should be doing. Impeach Trump and for that matter Pence. I am so tired of spineless democrats who are watching our country be destroyed by Trump and his smarmy republican backers.
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We certainly do not want to see a President Mike Pence...that might be even worse then Trump, he is complicit in the WH criminal actions too.....let's see the out come of Robert Mueller's investigation and then let's move to remove Trump, Pence, Paul Ryan and all the subversive radical GOP House & Senate members and get back to the real work of running America for Americans. Maybe Trump will end up in prison or maybe he will escape like a thief in the night and live in exhile somewhere in Eastern Europe ....Ivanka will divorce her criminal husband after trump throws him under the bus along whit her brothers who may also end up in prison. I don't see the need for impeachment but I do see the need for criminal investigation and imprisonment on several counts including treason.
Democrats should do both: seek to impeach Trump and also keep following the more procedurally staid path toward winning future judgments and elections. Have more than one strategy and work them all.
Steyer makes Democrats who are trying to gain power uncomfortable the way that Trump unsettles Republicans who are trying to hold on to power. Greasy pole careerists prefer the comfort and familiarity of crafted messaging and brokered results to the danger and uncertainty of plainspoken directness and the need for tiger tail management.
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As abhorrent Mr Trump is the way to fight him is on his string of broken promises.
He promised a tax plan that would not advantage him yet did the opposite and let the carried interest loophole stand despite his repeated promises to repeal it
He promised great healthcare for all yet the uninsured rates will increase.
He is rubber stamping the Republican swamp he campaigned against.
It’s only when his supporters realize he has conned them all that his fortunes will fade; regardless of his bad behavior.
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What was the pressing need for Republicans to bring Articles of Impeachment against Bill Clinton waaaayy back in 1998? I seem to have forgotten...
Oh, right, it was "false and misleading testimony" and the obstruction of justice (i.e. in providing "perjurious, false and misleading testimony" in some pesky details of his relationship with a subordinate.)
Actions against him while he was serving in the Presidency.
Almost seems like daily fare these days!
Steyer is a patriot and I am proud to have signed his impeachment petition! It is time for Trump’s presidency to end!
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Really??? -- All this to-do about a Billionaire who finds every reason to push for an impeachment of Donald Trump, and no outrage for the conservative Billionaires who pay, and have paid to elect him and keep his constrictive political agenda in office?....SAD.
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BRAVO TOM STEYER, A STAND UP GREAT AMERICAN, IMPEACHMENT SHOULD BE A NATIONAL DIALOGUE, WHEN A UNFIT, DANGER IS PRESENT, RALLY BEHIND MR STEYER, AND MAKE AMERICAN GOVT. HONORABLE AGAIN. THANK YOU MR STEYER
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As a liberal who is left of Bernie, I find Mr Steyer repulsive
If he really wanted to help, he would be funding voter registratrion drives, or something like that
This impeach thing is either stupid, or just self promotion (which, it seems, is working)
beyond that, the idea that these ultra rich people - Gates, Kochs, Steyer - get to run out lives nauseates me
The lot of em should have their money taken away
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Steyer is a true American, Trump is a petty criminal gone bigtime, not only impeachment, full on prosecution for his crimes, all of them.
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Many have pointed out the impeachment is a "political" process, not based on the Constitutional legal rights spelled out in our justice system. While it may be a political tool, the legal issues need to be present if there is any chance of trying to maintain credibility and not look like the political tools the Republicans have become so good at. The legal basis needs to come from Mueller (barring any presidential disasters between now and when Mueller concludes his investigation). Without that legal basis, there is little likelihood of conviction after impeachment. Impeachment is nothing without conviction and only makes the exercise obviously political.
With that said, our current makeup of Congress tells me that impeachment with or without conviction is a pipe dream until the balance changes.
Much as I want him out now, the real solution comes in the November midterms.... That is where the money and publicity need to be spent. Even if Trump is removed, the Cabinet and Congress remain... and do you really think Pence will be any salvation?
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The most essential thing a government, ANY government can offer its citizens is stability. Impeachment is a very destabilizing event, and should be used with extreme caution. However, Donald Trump is unequivocally unfit for the office of POTUS. The GOP leadership failed to use their own mechanisms to prevent Donald Trump from becoming their candidate for POTUS. The Constitutional safeguard, the Electoral College was debased by its GOP members who failed in their responsibility to protect Americans from this situation. We must remember that only 19% of Americans voted for Trump. He lost the popular vote by more than 2.8 million votes. Impeachment therefore would not be "an override of the democratic process." While spineless as they might be, there are many Republicans in Congress who will agree - behind closed doors - to the danger Trump poses to our nation. Still, nothing will happen unless Democrats win the House in 2018. I signed Mr. Steyer's petition because I believe our elected officials need the confidence to know that a large number of people are willing to place their name on a petition to get rid of this travesty to our great nation's heritage. As an avid history buff, please believe me - this is a situation, where, executed according the procedural dictates, impeachment is a reasonable course of action. Donald Trump should have never been allowed to become president.
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The most important job now is to elect Democrats to Congress and to State Houses. I wish Mr Steyer would concentrate his efforts and his money on that.
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According to this article, as well as to common sense, the only way to impeach Trump would be a landslide electoral victory for the Democrats, but all this talk of impeachment actually lessens the chances that Democrats have in conservative and moderate districts. So all of Tom Steyer’s agitation for impeachment is in fact just a ploy for leftist popularity. The perfect, total definition of a demagogue. I’m sure he’ll make a fine torch bearer for the progressives.
While the last thing I wanted was for Trump to be president, Pence is no better, and may be worse. Because he's not unpredictable and volatile like Trump, I would worry that he would have an easier time passing legislation that reflects his extremely conservative values.
I applaud Mr. Steyer's willingness to invest in Democratic causes, but this endeavor seems like it's emotionally driven and ultimately fruitless. Trump is unfit for office, no question, but he won and without some proof of criminal activity impeachment hearings seem like a waste of time. Controlling part of congress on the other hand, will at least help block Ill advised legislation and limit the damage Trump can do to the country.
Trump won because Comey interfered before the election. The Russians put their thumb on the scale, too. Everyone knows. These are not secrets.
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I appreciate that Mr. Steyer is doing what the Democrats are unwilling to do. One of the reasons I've abandoned the Democratic party is because of their weakness and unwillingness to play hardball.
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Mr. Steyer can certainly spend his earned money as he sees fit. And since the Republican passed tax cuts will certainly give him millions more to spend, maybe they hope he'll do their work for them. Mr. Trump isn't doing much for their future chances. Too much fear in Washington. Trump supporters say they like his tell it like it is attitude. Well, Mr. Steyer is doing exactly that. And since Mr. Schumer caved, perhaps as the best possible outcome, but the base might like someone in their corner. There are many ways to exercise one's democracy; Mr. Steyer has chosen his. More power to him.
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That's the Democrats. Timid, always testing the water, afraid to boldly back an initiative they know is right—not if it doesn't test well in focus groups. Go for it Democrats. As Al Gore said about initiatives to stop climate change: Everyone tells you its impossible until suddenly its possible. You don't change the public mind by being quiet.
And what about climate change, Dems? Well, uh, we know its the right thing to try to stop it, but it doesn't test well in focus groups.
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If you believe as I do that Mr. Trump is an existential threat to our country and perhaps the world, then you can only come to one conclusion: Mr. Trump must leave the White House now. Later may be too late. Think living through the January 13th false real ballistic missile alert at 8:10 am. Fire and Fury. I think Mr. Steyer is right. We cannot rely on our politicians first. There must first be first a major and loud popular outcry from everyone who has experienced the "I've had it moment".
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Democrats should not treat impeachment as as singular issue, but they should not be frightened to talk about it, either, if they think Trump should be impeached. Stand on principles. The weakness has got to stop. The stakes are too high.
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Mr Styer, we need to repeal Citizens United, and remove money from politics.
Would you consider putting your resources behind that cause,
Thank you.
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If he were the Chairman of the Board of your Corporation, would you keep Trump as Chairman, or would you yield and remove due to his obvious lack of moral values and general lack of capacity to civilly interact with the majority of its shareholders (so to speak, citizens), the citizens of the USA?
He did pass a tax bill that temporarily will increase your take home pay. So?? Does he buy your soul with cash? Does he buy your soul with increase in dividends, so to speak?
The USA is a Capitalist Country, is it not? Isn't Cash God?
What else does the USA stand for, if not Cash is GOD, no matter what?
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Imagine that - a Democrat with a spine and the courage and money to stand up to the Republicans. I can see why that would cause sleepless nights for the nice status-quo loving Democratic party leadership.
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And what if Mr. Steyer was all about brandishing red-herrings, and calling them the problem? To distract the masses from real reform? A multi-billionaire hedge fund manager more democrat than the democrats? Why doesn't he proposes a campaign for very high taxes on financial vultures instead? Because to talk about one particular person prevents to talk about inequality? That inequality which gives him so much power that he can run against elected officials, employing hundreds, because of all this money he got during Quantitative easing, or financing coal companies? And now of course he is more white than white...
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Why not spend some of that money funding progressive bloggers and documentaries, as well as left wing radio networks?
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The biggest problem with the impeachment drive is that it plays into Trump's hand, making everything about him. In that battle of style (or the lack thereof) and personality, Trump excels. As well, it takes the focus off the 2018 Congressional races which, in any case, will determine whether there is a House willing to impeach.
Secondly, impeachment should not be reduced to a replay by Congress of the previous Presidential election. If it were, President Obama would have been impeached and possibly convicted.
Third, be careful what you wish for: Pence would be worse. After Trump, he would fly under the radar, less overtly offensive, meanwhile answering only to the God who whispers in his ear, a more dangerous scenario than a non-ideological, narcissistic wimp. In addition, many people awakened by Trump would go back to sleep, ignoring that in the long run the good fight is about policies, not personalities.
Yes, these are times when we need to fight fire with fire, worrying less about "sinking to their level". However, as with any fire, in order to gain control you have to chill the base where it's burning, while removing combustible material from its path, not allowing oneself to be focused on the flame.
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Impeachment is not nearly as impractical as 8 years of Trump.
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I've seen more of Tom Steyer than Tom Perez. What is Perez doing anyway? Replace the Tom's and fire us up!
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Bravo to Mr. Steyer, an "Eureka, I have found him" honest man. "The Don" lost at the ballot box and has never been the peoples' choice. He is a barbarous man who brings shame and disgust to our every day life as Americans. Down with The Electoral College!
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Why even try to impeach? Because it will help save our endangered democracy. To hear how endangered our democracy is by Demagogue Donald, have a listen to: https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/ "How Democracies Die"
We are witnessing the death in real time.
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Go Steyer. I've been seeing his ads and they are well done. All we ever hear about are the donors for the Republicans controlling the government, the Kochs and Mercers, it's about time these billionaires came out for democracy. Where the heck are the rest of them?
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Yes Why should we Impeach Trump, He was legally elected with no help from any foreign power. How dare an American stand up and try to impeach the president. Even if the Russians helped, and have a lot to gain from this president. It is not like he had an affair, or used his power over a subordinate, or used his position of wealth to sexually assault a women. Then we would move Heaven and Earth to impeach him. After all Precedent was set for that in the 1990's right?
Chuck From Ohio
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little donnie IS unfit to be president & I wouldn't be surprised if he committed impeachable offences.
But the solution is to elect a Democratic congress and neuter him, not to impeach (which cannot be done with this House & Senate) and end up with Pence or Ryan in as POTUS
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Tom Steyer is right Trump has to go.
Seeing the Trump sitting like a fool in the Oval Office with his USA baseball cap didn't surprise me. What did surprise me was that he didn't wear it back to front
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I wonder if the people commenting here and against Steyer using his money to pursue impeachment care when the Koch Brothers use their money to pursue their ideas
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Mr Steyer is a provocateur who seems to like to see himself on TV.
Conservatives hope he keeps it up...
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Hey Dems, imagine for a moment that Steyer spent even a fraction of his wealth on feeding the poor and hungry. Instead he burns through millions on impeachment frivolity!
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Honestly, I would prefer that he spends his money in supporting his local food bank. There are 450K people in Silicon Valley who are suffering from food insecurity. Yes, it is his to spend as he wants but he needs to think of the repercussions of impeachment.
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Keep goin' Tom! You're doing great. Love...all Republicans.
I wish the Dems would grow a back bone. The GOP plays games with our freedoms and our right to vote. So I applaud all efforts to call the GOP out on the carpet.
spending tens of millions of dollars! What a waste of time and money. There is suffering in many places that can use some financial help. Its really a shame that a billionaire could be so stupid. It really goes to show how unstable Democrats are. Just tell me who is more crazy Mr. Steyer or Donald Trump? I think we can point at Mr. Steyer. What is Mr. Steyer accomplishing by spending all this money. Absolutely nothing.
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Correction: "Establishment Democrats" are rattled. We don't care if you are a Republican, Democrat, or Independent, you are all getting wiped out this November--tabla rasa (clean slate.)
The majority of Americans want Trump removed. But the only way it can get done is to elect a majority in the House to bring the impeachment charges, and a two-thirds majority (66) in the Senate to throw him out. Not likely to get 66 favorable Senators to impeach him.
Next best tactic is to elect, hopefully, a super majority in the Senate (60) and a simple majority in the House 51% or more, to oppose and block Trump's every move. He'll be embarrassed enough to either resign or be diminished to a simple idiot accomplishing nothing.
Three years is not that far away. We can endure the shabby politics and try to rebuild America by electing reasonable and effective elected officials.
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Olde Adage;
'Better a wise enemy than of foolish friend.'
Wise words, but it appears we have fools all around.
Sad.
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Bravo, Tom. Finally a Democrat using in your face politics ! I for one am sick of the DNC do nothing's that wring their hands and large consultant fees to the same gang of make no wave middle roaders. The Republicans play dirty, lie, half truth and laugh at the Democrats placating niceness. Tom is calling us to fight while the DNC is placating liars and thieves.
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Mr. Steyer's efforts seem pretty tame compared to Koch brothers, et al. About time Democrats start playing hardball.
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DaDa, the difference is that the Koch brothers don't generally sabotage their own agenda by investing in counterproductive strategies. if you're going to invest in countering Trump, go ahead by all means. Just do it *smartly*.
Strange, I don't recall the Koch Brothers spending money to impeach Obama, despite his numerous impeachable offenses. They also did not spend $90 million on last year's election.
The left accuses the right of committing offenses the left is committing. It's called projection.
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I watch and read the real news including centrist, progressive and conservative media as they track and comment on one crisis after another, unfolding from the phenomenal and horrifying Trump administration and the utter buy-in to this criminal enterprise by Republicans. What scares me is that, inherent in almost every expert opinion they render, there is the implicit given that Robert Mueller is going to save our democracy and the rule of law principle. Without Mueller's success in bringing the guilty to justice and restoring the rules of law, expert assessments are meaningless because of what Trump is getting away with.
Trump and his co-conspirators need to be removed from office for crimes committed ASAP. Any risks are worth it given where this country is headed.
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What if Trump hasn't done anything wrong? Hypothetically, citizens are innocent until proven guilty. It is extraordinarily unlikely that Trump or his posse did anything wrong in interactions with the Russians. Mueller's team would have leaked them by now.
Tom Steyer for President. Maybe from now on only Billionaires will occupy the People’s House. Sooner this guy than Trump and I know absolutely nothing about Steyer. If he runs he has my vote. Keep up the good work.
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What Steyer is doing is putting the idea of impeachment in people’s heads. Whether or not Trump is actually impeached with the current Congress is irrelevant. He’s making it a mainstream thought and normalizing it, just like the Rs are trying to normalize the idea that every real news outfit is fake news, and it’s fine to use racism as a basis on which to make immigration policy. The more Steyer says it, the easier it is to think of Trump as unworthy and a criminal. Normalizing the idea of impeachment will also help when Mueller’s investigation finds Trump broke the law. The goal may not really be impeachment, but to increase public support for the conclusion Mueller reaches.
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It is not a mainstream thought. It appeals only to the far leftist crowd that abhors democracy. The ones with a third world mentality who believe staging a coup replaces an election that doesn't go their way.
Mainstream voters think the Democrats should come up with a winning platform. And a less odious and corrupt candidate than in 2016.
Trump's actions, and those around him, clearly point to Trump being either Putin's agent or dupe. There's really little question, about collusion. After all, Trump called upon the Russians to get and release Hillary's e-mails in televised comments made during the campaign. America's standing in the world is taking a huge hit through Trump's actions and divisiveness. All of this has to please Putin greatly, who expands his international power and influence. True patriotism demands Trump's impeachment, whether or not that is politically expedient for Democrats. Democrats, and Republicans for that matter, need to get some guts and stand strongly for what is right. Thank you for your efforts Mr. Steyer.
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It was obvious to any intelligent or educated person that Trump was joking when he said the Russians should release the emails Hillary had deleted from her private insecure server. It is noteworthy, that the Russians never did release the deleted emails. That means either they don't have them, or that they withheld them hoping to blackmail Hillary and the emails became useless once she lost the election.
The Russians did release emails from the DNC and the RNC. Although the emails from the Republicans were published, they were not particularly newsworthy, because what Republicans were saying in their emails was not different from what they were saying in public and there were no illegal or improper activities revealed.
The DNC emails, on the other hand, revealed much that was appalling, from the feeding of debate questions to Hillary to the fact that the Podesta lobbying firm was attempting to get the Russian sanctions removed and hadn't registered as an agent of a foreign government.
He's right! Also impeachment is complicated and unlikely, Mass protests and indeed a march on Washington are necessary. Mr. Steyer, You have my vote!
In Italy they are laughing at us and for all I know that's true the rest of Europe. We have a joke for president, thanks to our own strange electoral college system- which can only get worse over time, with the move to populations ( particularly better educated populations) shifting to urban areas on the East and West Coast.
It'd Be good to have this procedure change but in the meanwhile, let's start marching and please, Send me the petition I'll sign!
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I will start out by saying I am in no ways a fan of Donald Trump. However, him being elected president is what makes our country great. You don't have to like the current president but we live with it because it is the democratic way. We take the good with the bad. We get the opportunity to fix what we don't like every 4 years.
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"it is the democratic way." ???
Trump lost the election by 3,000,000 ballots.
What democratic way are you writing about?
There is nothing wrong with Trump shuddering government as he see it, however, are his actions based on constitutional, legal or prerogatives of his position. The challenge is that Trump has overstepped his his authority. I agree
Pardon, it was Congress that shut down the government by not offering a bill for the President to sign. The House passed a bill, the Senate filibustered it, so no vote was ever taken. Once non-essential services were no longer funded, Trump instituted layoff procedures and stopped accruing liabilities.
Fortunately, the Democrats in the Senate realized the folly of the Schumer Shutdown and voted to fund the government as well as fund CHIP.
Just wanted to " test " petition on his website and used several names and all were accepted without question, so I'd take number of signers with a large grain of salt.
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This is the GOP's Citizen United decision come back to bite them. If you are going to insist on empowering the biggest money to have the biggest voices, there will inevitably be some people like Tom Steyer and George Soros mixed in with your Koch Brothers and Mercer families.
The danger with this strategy is virtually every President commits some impeachable offense. Obviously plenty of Republicans - not just Nixon but Reagan and Bush, Sr. (Iran-Contra); but Democrats too (forget about Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton could just as well have been impeached for "ChinaGate," i.e., the illegal campaign contributions from Chinese and Indonesian donors for the 1996 elections).
So when a Democrat is next elected President, this could backfire into immediate push for impeachment against a Democrat. The Gingrich-led GOP may not have gone after Clinton so much absent the Nixon impeachment; the Iran-Contra investigation; and the treatment of Robert Bork nomination. Each side views the other as having broken some new precedent in partisanship & trying to score points for political advantage.
The shoe will be on the other foot soon enough. If the GOP abandons the 60 vote filibuster rule, it will come back to bite them, in the same way that increased "normalization" of the impeachment process could easily come back to bite the Democrats. Win on policy; not abuse of procedure.
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The McCain-Feingold campaign finance law did not prohibit people like Steyer from spending his money to buy TV ads recommending Trump's impeachment or distributing a Trump biopic chronicling the life of Trump in an unflattering light. What it attempted to do was to prevent a group of citizens from pooling their money in order to distribute a biopic that Hillary wanted suppressed. What SCOTUS ruled was that the citizens could not have their free speech suppressed because they had united in a corporate form. They also applied the same logic to unions, which are similarly organized as corporations.
SCOTUS did not overturn the laws that stipulated that corporations are not permitted to make contributions to political campaigns, which they are still not permitted to do. When Obama asserted in his state of the union address that SCOTUS had overturned a hundred years of precedent, he was lying. They overturned a single provision of a law that was less than five years old.
Hillary objected to an entity that was structured exactly the same way as Media Matters and move0n.org f attempting to distribute accurate information about her.
Steyer is a rich guy who made his fortune trading fossil fuels, heavy on the coal. He has now decided to spend that money on foolishness, which is his right. He would be entitled to do so with or without the CU decision.
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Impeachment IS a part of the Democratic process, it is not a attempt to override that process. I believe one precedent that has already been set was in Mr. R. Nixon's case.
The procedure is outlined in the United States Constitution. It is not an irrational step. I urge that it be considered as soon as possible, if it's not already too late.
Mr. D. Trump is the clear and present damage to the democratic process. His impeachment and conviction and removal would be the cure. Long overdue.
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You are confused. Nixon was never impeached. It was Clinton who was impeached, the only elected President in the history of America to have been impeached.
In order to impeach Trump, he will have to have committed an offense that the majority of the members of the House of Representatives consider worthy of removing him from office. After that, a trial would be held in the Senate and a two thirds majority would have to vote to remove him from office.
Don't hold your breath. Even if Democrats achieved a House majority, they are not going to be able to rustle up 67 Senators to vote to convict.
All these tactical considerations (in favor of not "jumping the gun" on ousting Mr Trump) from members of a party that has just been utterly outfoxed in the Congress . . . What am I missing here?
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Why are the Democrats so timid all of the time? Steyer is on the side of the majority of voters. Trump debases the office everyday, making his family, friends and himself rich in the process.
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The majority didn't vote in the last election; there may be a tsunami of people who neither want a Democrat nor a Republican to be the next president.
There needs to be a check on both parties.
Democrats are rattled over what Tom Steyer is doing? This Democrat is desperately frightened and apoplectic over what Trump is doing. Perhaps Mr. Steyer feels similarly. Fortunately, he is a billionaire.
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The fact that Trump represents a severe warping of the democratic process now that he is, alas, the Corruption-in-Chief in the Oval Office, why should there be any reservation in trying to get this monster out? Trump never should have been there in the first place. Supporting Trump's impeachment is the most patriotic of acts and the big D Democrats know this. But I don't blame them for dancing around this sad and toxic situation—so whatever the Dems can do to increase their seats in Congress is to be respected. RE: Mr. Steyer—do not stop your campaign until the monster is out of the Oval Office. No more worthy socio/politico pursuit exists at this time in American history.
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For God's sake, Democrat Bill Clinton was impeached for having an affair in the White House and lying about it.
President Trump has lied about his opponent, lied about the previous president, denigrated the FBI and fired the FBI Director, lied about meetings with the Russians, attacked Special Counsel Mueller and attacked the media.
The Republicans are complicit in condoning Trump's actions.
Might as well have someone, even a private citizen, hold President Trump accountable for Trump's impeachable offenses.
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Why would they be rattled, he is like a small fly in a world of fly traps. Not even noticeable.
Impeachment is only a viable option if the Republicans get a major head wash in the midterm election. That Trump breaks all norms and all standards for good governance is a nightmare that gets worse by the week. That Republicans bend backwards to please him and defend him is a national tragedy that can only be corrected by a landslide defeat which will be a tall order in view of the outrageous and undemocratic gerrymandering by the Republicans. That Roy Moore carried 5 out of 6 districts while getting solidly defeated by the popular vote should be a wake-up call for America.
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Mr. Steyer, Thank you for putting your money where your mouth is, and for your zeal. You are a patriot. But I implore you, the big money and big effort needs to go into voter registration and grass roots get out the vote efforts in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, and North Carolina. All the hurdles to voter registration must be surmounted. Professionals, such as yourself, must organize and use your smarts to help the registration and get out the vote efforts. We can debate for years how good or bad Hillary was as a candidate, but we lost because democrats did not vote. We cannot let that happen again. Please help. Thank you.
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Steyer is a professional hedge fund manager. He has never held elective office, worked in government or worked in the public interest. His private sector work did not build anything or create any value. He bought low and sold high to enrich himself and other rich people. His biggest wealth derived from selling coal. His work consisted of successful gambling. His last big political spending was as an "environmentalist." He didn't even sell off his coal holdings until the hypocrisy of his position was pointed out. He still holds huge fossil fuel assets.
Hillary did not lose because Democrats did not vote. She lost because Democrats voted for Trump. The demographic of working people with a high school diploma as their highest academic accomplishment has always voted 55/45 Democrat/Republican. In 2016, they voted 30/70 Democrat/Republican.
Consistent with historical voting records, those lacking a high school diploma voted Democrat. Those with a college degree voted Republican. Twenty five percent of the group in the middle switched from Democrat to Republican.
In order for the Democrats to win in state government elections or congressional seats, they're going to come up with a better platform than that anyone who didn't vote for Hillary is deplorable. Trump isn't running this year.
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This is almost as bad as Trump ‘s demand a bunch accused of rape be put to death before they were tried - something that will never happen because genetic tests, among other evidence PROVED they weren’t even potentially guilty.
Earlier today I attacked Mr Trump for his attacks on the news media as The Enemy, mainly for accurate reportage.
But calling for impeachment of a president even when all the accurate accounts point to a minimum of obstructing justice, and a maximum interpretation of his behavior as downright treason and espionage - handing an unfriendly nation intelligence, and adding, by the way, it came from Israel - before the Muller investigation ends - is an equal act of injustice as Trump’s move, as the Red Queen, to execute first, try later.
As for Democratic liberals, they must realize that time is on their party’s side. Cutting the government shutdown to a single day AND making GOP members who went home rather than resolving the matter Sunday night, combined with Trump Tweets make the majority appear responsible for any costs incurred.
And if McConnell refuses to act in good faith on ‘dreamers’ by February increases the numbers of fingers pointed at the GOP, improving their opponents’ chances come November.
One cannot stop a fool from prematurely spending money, or this one’s supporters for turning on their best chance, as they did in 1968, giving us President Nixon, but one can urge him to save his cash for when it matters.
The irrational behaviors of Democrats have given me, a Democrat, pause to vote for any national Democratic candidate for president.
Mr. Steyer could best use his cash to help the county in other ways.
Just another rich avenging Californian, a disciple mourning Hillary's loss.
Let Mueller handle Trump.
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EVERY Democrat I know is in favor of impeachment. The rich ones in Congress - perhaps they are not so keen on the idea - but us everyday people certainly are.
GO FOR IT.
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I don't understand the temerity and cowardice of many people saying the Democrats should not be talking about impeachment. If the roles were switched, and Trump was a Democrat, does anyone doubt that the Republicans would have slowed the government to crawl or shut it down until they could impeach Trump.
The fact is, Trump is a textbook example of why impeachment exists! His actions are impeachable no matter what the Mueller investigation concludes!
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Too bad you don't now what temerity means.
Trump is guilty only to people for whom the rule of law is a mystery and are in denial about what public opinion is.
I don’t necessarily think focusing on impeachment is a great idea but Democrats have given every indication over the last few months that their current strategic plan was conconcted by untrained monkeys, so who knows?
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...and BTW...if Tom Steyer can stay appropriately angry at the state of affairs of our country...and continue to NOT BE AFRAID of this administration...I'd vote for him in a minute.
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Jenifer a voice of reason
Thank you
Chuck from Ohio
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Thank God for Mr. Seyer. Wish that more billionaires had the guts to challenge DJT in 2016.
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Stick with the conventional wisdom of Pelosi and Schumer, it's worked out so well.
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I don't understand why Mr. Steyer is criticized by the Democrats. He is working hard in contrasting a force that is dragging America into the abyss of fascism. Mr. Stayer effort should be indeed considered a "wake-up" for all the people who are selling out everything even their dignity to a bunch of selfish plutocrats.
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Steyer's got my vote. The only man among mice.
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Impeachment should come to be like a vote of no confidence that brings the government down. Why not? The Constitution gives us no other way to hasten the departure of a dangerous leader. As for relying on elections, please. Between the special interests and foreign governments like Russia and Israel, our elections are essentially bought. IMPEACH! Bless you, Tom Steyer.
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So what are his 10 suggestions for articles of impeachment? Maybe:
1. We Democrats just don’t like him.
2. We are unhappy with the soaring economy.
3. He did not appoint a liberal Democrat to the Supreme Court.
4. He might push for immigration law and order.
5. He is not bashing the military.
6. His talk with foreign governments is too tough and might hurt their feelings.
7. He has spoken with Russians.
8. He is not implementing thousands of new regulations to suppress business.
8. His tax legislation is putting more money in the pockets of citizens and they do not need or want it.
9. He said a bad word.
10. He is married to a woman who is just too perfect.
Get a life, Alexander Burns!
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Wow, you cannot possibly believe what you listed or is it sarcasm.
However, he's yours until justice gets him.
Perfect wife?
Then why the affairs...
More money in the 1% pocket.
Talks tough, does nothing but watch TV and tweet.
Whole team been speaking and meeting with Russians...what did US get?
Where's my tax money? Oh wait, I'm not rich.
How about
He conspired with the Russians to disrupt American elections
He Tried to suppress evidence from a duly appointed prosecuted
His words and actions lead even members of his own party to openly question his sanity.
Chuck From Ohio
Well, the Destruction is the political base idea for Mr. T. Republicans think that they are just using it to advance 'their' interest. But, they are overwhelmed by Trumpism, "Destruction is good, Ideals are for Suckers." Some Republicans would realize that they miscalculated the power of the Tsunami, the ugliness among the voters, empowered by that political base idea. Such Republicans may well join the impeachment movement.
What are Mr. And Mrs. Bill Gates thinking about Mr. T?
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While I believe impeachment will never come to pass, I applaud Mr. Steyer for his convictions. He's fighting and battling like not many Dems in office will not.
When are the Democrats going to understand -- the rules have changed. It's time to battle and fight for what you believe in. Trump and his croonies have no moral compass and no honor. It's time to see what the Democrats have in the way of guts and fight.
I'm tired of being steamrolled.
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Obama should have fired Comey for opening the email investigation 2 weeks before the election. If there was anything that effected the election it was this act.Totally political act from a department that is not political RIGHT.
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Steyer’s time will come. Just wait. We haven’t seen the bottom of Trump’s behavior, and it just may come to pass that after the November 2018 election, that enough people on both sides will vote for impeachment. Hopefully, that will happen before our country blunders into an unnecessary war. Personally, I don’t find the results of the “mental capacity” test Trump recently took under the guidance of one of his fans, to be reassuring.
It’s nice to see someone with real money being aggressive in a way that actually has America’s best interests at heart.
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If a Democratic Congress in 2006-2008 couldn't & didn't impeach G.W. Bush or Cheney for the lies of Iraq and taking the nation into war vs. a country that never attacked the United States, causing endless unnecessary deaths and wasting trillions, it seems doubtful that the Democrats could manage it vs. Trump. This is not even to mention their abuses of the "Patriot" Act and mass warrantless surveillance.
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I love this guy. He is putting his money where his mouth is. I applaud his honesty, tenacity, and ferocity. I also applaud his integrity. There are MILLIONS of us who are with him on this. Do not underestimate him. Mr. Steyer is a hero.
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Timing is everything and while Mr. Steyer's heart is in the right place, his
money will be wasted at this time. A much better path for his funds is
to work on eliminating voter suppression and all the tricks the Republicans will use to to deter voter turnout.
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Being a good Citizen has no proper timing and is never wasted.
Our democracy is sorely distorted by super rich, obsessed provocateurs like Steyer, the Mercers and the Kochs. These un-elected, unaccountable and self-entitled individuals, through the power of their money, push our system to extremes and away from reasonableness, away from what is best for the country.
If a miracle happens and we ever get comprehensive campaign finance reform, I hope and pray that these type of bad actors are cut down to size.
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I despise Trump, but Ellen Tauscher is easily one of the most brilliant minds I have ever witnessed on the national political scene. At a moment of great confusion or perplexity, I'm inclined slightly to her side of this, knowing to an almost absolute certainty that the Republican Party will do nothing about Trump before this year's election, and possibly not thereafter. In the Age of Gerrymander, the odds are still stacked too much in the direction of the Trump base for my comfort.
I have seen Mr. Steyer's commercials. Personally I think he would be better off saving his money and should instead focus on helping qualified candidates get elected in the House and Senate. Hopefully this would reduce Trump's enablers and force some real changes in a better direction. Many people would like to see Trump face impeachment, but then what... we would have Pence, who could be just as bad in a more religious way. After Pence, then there would be Paul Ryan too. The horribleness of it all would just continue.
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Welcome to the arena - to paraphrase TR.
He joins Mr Soros on the left as another billionaire using his dollar muscle to impose an agenda.
Just like Mr Soros has spectacularly failed in delivering for the Democrats - this man also does not have much of a chance.
What the Democrats need to be excited about is their own candidates and not about defeating the other guy.
If all you do is attempt to defeat the other guy - you are already handicapping your own candidate with a preset campaign.
I am a Republican and the POTUS was not my candidate.
But he has proven truer to our core principles of low taxes, low regulations and a strong defense.
And the POTUS - we were not even sure he was a Republican when he won the nomination.
The Democrats need a candidate like that who comes out of nowhere.
I am no fan of the Tea Party.
But they have injected fresh blood in our party - made us question ourselves.
I dare say the Democrats need a "latte" party - originating with grass roots who challenge war horses of Democrats at ballot box.
One senator from California comes to mind.
And this billionaire can help that "latte" party.
And then, yes, the game is on.
And more importantly, America benefits with a re-energized Democrat party.
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I'm part of the Democratic base all my life, a current liberal resister, and I've thought Steyer to be a hot head from the first I heard of his impeachment drive.
Who is his impeachment atty? Has he drafted articles? What are they; what is his basis for impeachment beyond not liking tRump and what he does?!
Yes, I want Steyer's money to go to congressional races.
No, I do NOT agree with his impeachment stance!
I'll call his office and tell him so. I've already told my representatives, months ago.
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I signed.
This is an admirable man.
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Would love to see cash and energy go toward enabling more democrats to register and vote.
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I hope he runs.
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So the Republicans get to have wing nuts such as the Trumps, Mercers, Kochs, Murdock but the Democrats have Steyer the sky is falling. Spare me and good luck to Mr. Steyer.
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Steyer is just working effectively to "normalize" the idea of the Trump impeachment to America. Once he can convince a good part of this country to accept the idea of impeachment as more likely, or more inevitable, that is when Steyer's efforts are more likely to produce the inevitable. There are few efforts he may find useful (if he has not yet discovered them), that would produce a greater ROI. Some are obvious, but he may be too focused, or listening to those he is too surrounded by, and those too eager to please and take his money. It will be amusing to see what he comes up with, or does not.
The Democrats need to learn to play with the big boys, just like the GOP does.
This isn't the time for idealism. We have a sociopath in the White House.
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Being a member of a political party does remove your rights and obligations as a citizen. If he is seeking impeachment or promoting a parade he is doing so as an individual. That's his personal right.
Where does the political party get off trying to impose its view?
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Steyer understands that we need to keep impeachment as a topic, up front and center, even if its actual execution isn't this minute. It's very cagey of him to keep hammering away at Trump's paper-thin skin by bombarding the airwaves with TV ads (since we all know Trump spends more time in front of the boob tube than doing much else) and coalescing and emboldening Dems nationwide who largely support impeachment efforts. Glad someone with bucks is ignoring the career politicians whose only concern is their own re-election!!
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The Democrats are not cowards, but pragmatic. I take it back. I just don't know if being pragmatic makes them seem like cowards, or being cowards makes them seem pragmatic.
The fact that it is not the most convenient point in the electoral cycle to speak of impeachment should not fog the clarity of the daily message that we have arrived at an urgent moment for the preservation of our union.
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The Democrats should show some heavy restraint and control before embarking on a purely political impeachment process. Such actions would threaten democracy and the rule of law. It also would lower the chances of Trump being impeached if Special Counsel Mueller finds incriminating evidenc that's sufficient to actually begin an impeachment process; which so far seems very likely.
I am not saying Trump shouldn't be impeached, I am just saying like Senator Sanders we shouldn't "jump the gun".
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There’s a much easier way than impeachment just insist that just Trump answer basic questions about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or even to recite the words, in order, to the national anthem. That would pretty much be game over.
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Trump became president with less vetting than an mid-level employee at a mid-level company because Republicans allowed it. If the investigation is allowed to continue, Trump will be charged with money laundering and tax evasion (in addition to obstruction and emoluments). The Democratic House in 2019 will pass new disclosure laws for future presidential nominees so that we don't have to go through this ever again. We should never have a president that couldn't get hired as a camp counselor or junior accountant.
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One of the key reasons Trump won the election was voter dissatisfaction with the option served up the the Democrats. What were they thinking when the put up HRC, a flawed candidate to begin with? The end result was not surprising. She didn't campaign effectively and certainly did not know how to play to the electoral college rules, like them or not, are the system we have. She reeked of entitlement as if she wanted to be anointed instead of elected. But it seems apparent that many Americans were simply sick of the Clintons (and Obama), and the GOP could have won with a ham sandwich as candidate...if it was on rye with mustard. For better or worse Americans wanted a change. We could have done better, perhaps not much worse no matter who won.
It may be that Mr. Steyer not only sees how the political winds are blowing, but is part of the winds himself, determining even their direction. Time will tell, as the Mueller investigation continues. But come what may, Steyer is showing the chutzpah to upend the staid and out of touch Democratic Party establishment, and I salute him for not giving an iota of ground to the likes of Nancy Pelosi, who represents all that is wrong with her play it safe party.
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While I feel Trump may have obstructed justice (we don't know for certain yet), and he is certainly ethically and morally repugnant, at this time we do not have the legal evidence to insist on impeachment. I would caution the more rabid base in this way - do we want to start down a path where whenever Congress is held by one party, and the Presidency by the opposition, that the base immediately starts calling for the impeachment of the President because they dislike that person and their policies? I could see this happening given the division in our nation. The solution is not electing these kind of people in the first place - which means more people need to vote and be engaged. We are on a slippery slope here in my opinion.
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Why shouldn’t Billionaires be able to buy anything they want? What good is it to be one if you can’t? Just imagine a world of nothing but Billionaires, it must have to be perfect. Say, isn’t Trump one too? Make that only good Billionaires.
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Impeachment should not be used as a political tool. You might not agree w Trump but to bandy about impeachment as if it’s just another technique risks devaluing the valuable check it offers.
YEs, the Republicans used it against Clinton, but Dems have to take the high road- I believe more of this partisan use of the Constitution will do irreparable.
Trumps may come and Trumps may go - we shouldn’t tamper with the fabric of our government for short term political aims. It’s not the end of the world, people- only an incompetent executive.
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It should noted, in addition to spending money on ads decrying the incompetence of this President, his is a two-pronged approach. Tom Steyer is spending a considerable amount of his money on getting out the vote for the upcoming elections which ultimately, will be the solution to the problem.
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Mr Steyer is not really honest [or perhaps misinformed] in his request for signatures he talks about how Nixon and several other presidents were impeached for less offenses
Personally, I believe that Mr. Steyer is doing the right thing, and though Democratic Party Leadership should not jump on the bandwagon, every other Democrat, Independent, and free-thinking Conservative should do the same. I've signed his petition and I want to see Donald Trump impeached. So far as I'm concerned, it would be best if it happened after the Mullein investigation is completed, and preferably sometime in 2019, after we Democrats have taken back the House and Senate. Then we would have Pence in the White House, and I do not believe he'll be any bit of a problem for a Democratic Congress to deal with.
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At last -- someone with the honesty and the courage to declare that The Emperor Has No Clothes.
The Republicans' failure to recognize how unfit The Donald is for office are complicit in the ongoing train wreck, and should be held accountable for their mute complacency when the November midterms take place.
And while I admire Mr. Steyer for stepping up and pressing his beliefs, it's depressing to realize that in America these days, only a billionaire is able to have a meaningful voice in political discourse.
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Mr Steyer is voicing the sentiments of tens of millions of Americans. Our constitution is being trampled by this administration and too many people are advocating caution about speaking out. The time is now and Mr Steyer is the voice. He is our backbone.
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There should be more Tom Steyers using their wealth to protect our constitution and the rule of law, instead of lobbying for special favors and rulings from the Trump bunch the way wealthy Trump supporters do.
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I’m hoping Mr. Steyer will use his wealth and influence to help fix the DNC after his campaign to impeach Trump is finished.
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There ought to be many Republicans with deep, deep pockets who will try to do that.
They're doing all they can right now to "fix" the DNC, now that they've fixed the GOP, and they HAVE fixed the GOP!
Republican wealthy and big corporate donors are a far bigger threat to the democratic process. We need to get money out of politics altogether. But until that happens I'm ok with a Dems fighting fire with fire.
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Thank you, Mr. Steyer, for your efforts. Your heart is where your money is. But it's a long distance run and the Republican Party as the reincarnated Terminator is indestructible due to United Citizens vs FEC Supreme Court Ruling, the ruling that doomed the world.
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If Mr. Steyer has plenty of money to throw around, fine--go after the impeachment issue. I'm more interested in his efforts to get young voters to the polls this year and in his NextGen climate change campaign. Impeaching the occupant of the White House will be impossible unless the Democrats gain a majority in the house and the senate. If they can do that, they need to prevent a lot of scary things from happening: loosening of health and environmental protections, unqualified judicial appointments. The list is too long for this space. Mitch McConnell wanted to make Barack Obama a one-term president. That didn't work out. But let's make sure Trump gets an eviction notice in 2020.
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I am disturbed by Steyer's actions. Impeachment is a quasi-legal proceeding for "high crimes and misdemeanors." Steyer is bypassing the rule of law by making a judgment on serious offenses without a trial. Impeachment is not a recall petition, but Steyer is treating it as such.
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He has every right to do what he is doing. Just as you do to say you are disturbed by it.
Reminder to people of all parties: we have a Constitution.
Let's live by it.
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Visionaries with righteous goals have always been ahead of the curve ... that's what makes them visionaries. When the Democrats need help – and they will, they do now – that can turn to Steyer's remarkable lists for help.
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The biggest problem with the impeachment drive is that it plays into Trump's hand, making everything about him. In that battle of style (or the lack thereof) and personality, Trump excels. As well, it takes the focus off the 2018 Congressional races which, in any case, will determine whether there is a House willing to impeach.
Secondly, impeachment should not be reduced to a replay by Congress of the previous Presidential election. If it were, President Obama would have been impeached and possibly convicted.
Third, be careful what you wish for: Pence would be worse. After Trump, he would fly under the radar, less overtly offensive, meanwhile answering only to the God who whispers in his ear, a more dangerous scenario than a non-ideological, narcissistic wimp. In addition, many people awakened by Trump would go back to sleep, ignoring that in the long run the good fight is about policies, not personalities.
Yes, these are times when we need to fight fire with fire, worrying less about "sinking to their level". However, as with any fire, in order to gain control you have to chill the base where it's burning, while removing combustible material from its path, not allowing oneself to be focused on the flame.
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This is what democracy looks like. Deal with it. He’s basing his arguments on facts and building momentum. Women did that and got the vote. Minorities did that and got some protective laws in place. Environmentalists did that and cleaned our air and water. The LGBTQ community did that and got the right to marry among other rights. Need I go on?
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Of course Trump is unfit for office. But the entire GOP is just the same pig with lipstick on it. I admire Mr. Steyer's intensity and doubt if his campaign is hurting Democrats. But in truth, McConnell and Ryan are at least as dangerous. So long as his campaign doesn't distract from this fact, more power to Mr. Steyer. (Those of us against Trump can walk and chew gum at the same time I hope.)
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We will work hard to get control of the House and the Senate this year. I fully support impeachment for (t)rump and I certainly support Mr. Steyer's efforts. Lived in CA for a long time and am working to achieve the goal of getting rid of the Republican representatives. The women also can and will do it!! You think the women aren't angry? Check out the Women's March numbers on Saturday! Thanks, Tom Steyer.
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Impeachment is an almost impossible long shot. Mr Steyer's money and efforts would be better spent trying to shore up support for democrats in the mid term elections.
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I like him. I like that he is plain spoken and says exactly how many of us feel. He ought to run for office. I 'm so tired of the embarrassment of this administration.
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If Mr. Steyer's investments will help take back the House and the Senate, we don't need to impeach. Give him the rope and Trump with tangle himself up in it!!! In the meantime, a Democratic Congress can use their Constitutional powers to stop Trump in his tracks.
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By any means necessary. It’s that simple.
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Agree - by any means necessary.
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Peter, it's a moot point, because they're GONNA DO IT ANYWAY
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There is always the danger that the government will grind to a halt in February and then The Donald will be free to scribble any old "law" he chooses while surrounded by unthinking, unaware and somewhat stupid sycophants who think posing in the White House is a real claim to fame.
There is much to admire about Tom Steyer's efforts. Sitting at home and bemoaning the chaos resolves nothing, may cause one to become depressed or take up drinking or smoking pot!
One only effects change by action. Removal of the Donald and his greedy and apparently unethical family, may cause Mike Pence to shiver and shake as he could be next.
At least that's the view from the Left Coast where we survived that tsunami (which did not show up) and now are burdened with incessant rain. CA would you like some?
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It is not only Democrats that acknowledge Trump is dangerous and should be impeached; Republicans also know it.
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Do you think Trump is fit for office? If so, by no means support the impeachment effort (but check the floor for your missing marbles). If you think he is unfit, then it is your duty as a citizen to press Congress to impeach. What are we afraid of? Getting Trumpand his base mad? That train left the station long ago.
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Too many Democrats still bringing a balloon to the gun fight.
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GO!! Mr. Steyer!! A spade is a spade! Do it!
So important at this time, when so many of the elderly Dems are getting 2nd, 3rd, and 4th thoughts about action, or anything else.
Time to impeach and convict!!
Assuming, of course, that it is not better for the Republic to use the 25th Amendment to immediately return a sane person to the helm of the U.S. Government.
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At what point does this become treason?
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Yes Trump's treasonous behavior is alone enough reason for impeachment.
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"treason" has nothing to do with it.
Colluding with the Russians to rig the election, obstructing justice and being an unfit, unstable bigoted bully has everything to do with it.
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Yup, Trump's collusion with Russia is treasonous.
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What is Congress waiting for?
Republicans know he is a crook , clueless and that he very possibly will start a war. The Donald is a heathen who is supported by the evangelicals .
The entire foundation of our country is at stake and couple more thousand in your inflated 401k will matter little in the near future.
America wake up .
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He belongs to Lenin's Bay Area Children, found in Palo Alto, Los Gatos, Mill Valley, et al. It's all they've got left, so to speak. Can't succeed without control of the Senate, but then with these Children, money is no object, so who knows.
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I'd prefer to spend the money on getting out the vote in November 2018. Let's get the Democrats back in control of Congress, and then we can talk about next steps...
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its not "the money" its HIS money.
If you prefer to spend YOUR money that way then good on ya.
Duetche Bank will drop trump like a hot poker , he’s a Zero
Net loss
Move on
You can be sure there is a Republican version of Tom Steyer ready to run an impeachment campaign against the next Democratic president should this scheme work. It’s still too premature to try and impeach Trump, and this sets a dangerous precedent that a wealthy person can circumvent the election process and remove a president.
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uhhhm only the House of Representatives can impeach.
as such, this is a false statement: "a wealthy person can circumvent the election process and remove a president."
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uhhhm, if can influence enough people in the House of Representatives with his money, he can impeach the president. That's what he's trying to do.
The Koch brothers do what Steyer does, but behind closed doors. They don't go out of their way to make themselves a target. And they've been horribly effective.
Steyers could take a lesson from them.
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Why no one brings up the emoluments clause is a mystery to me that alone could be an impeachable act in itself. Trump's DC hotel, Mar a Lago are just two examples of him profiting off of his office here in this country but until the Congress can be flipped nothing is going to happen. The Republicans in the Senate and Congress have signed on with him despite of everything I seriously doubt that there's anything he could do for them to go against him.
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I am reminded of a popular military strategy in preparing to attack your enemy. Organize the largest possible force to overwhelm your military opponent, erring on the side of having more soldiers and equipment than anyone would normally think is necessary.
The same principle can apply to preparing an impeachment battle over Trump. There is no such thing as too much force. Remember that he and his minions won the election against all odds and shocked the world.
Trumps plan is obviously to campaign now during his administration and then run for reelection with all possible force.
Since Trump clearly understands this principle of overwhelming force, so should we or anyone who is seriously interested in electing another president in 2020!
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Part of me wants Trump to go, but an equal part of me wants to hold on so the dems can extract as much political benefit possible from his presidency.
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Ferocious and passionate, Tom Steyer! Interesting that Steyer's video ads have garnered him 4,000,000 signatures to his petitions. There is no more important mission than making the impeachment of our ignorant and unfit and bigoted 45th president an issue this year. Endorsing Trump's impeachment will help Democrats who are running for so many state and federal offices in the Mid-Term elections. There are a majority of Democrats and a minority of Republicans who are undoubtedly wondering sub-rosa what pratfalls our tweeting President will make in Davos this week. Wondering if the Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, will have face time with Trump, soon - as have Attorney General Sessions, James Comey, Michael Flynn,and Trump's fomer eminence grise Steve Bannon, and Don Trump, Jr.
Tom Steyer, donating his millions of dollars to his worthy cause isn't "jumping the impeachment gun" any more than the American colonists jumped the gun by pitching boxes of British tea into Boston Harbor in 1773. Any more than the common peoples' attack on La Bastille jumped the gun on the French Revolution in 1789. Whoever imagined back in those days that such remote possibilities as the Boston Tea Party and the citizens' seizing the Bastille would change American and French history forever?
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Well, I have to say that I've never given Tom Steyer's gibbering impeachment efforts that much thought. You have Tom Steyer on one hand, and the Kochs and Adelson on the other. Who's got the bigger hands?
I have to get more popcorn.
Ego and vanity. Besides, who wants Pence?
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Given Trump’s obvious unfitness for office, it would be amazing if someone were not calling for impeachment. And all that is needed for ammunition is Trump’s own behavior and words.
There is no conspiracy here. Trump is a racist and a con man. Yes he got elected fair and square, yet that only makes it more imperative to look at how the Constitution can help us get out of this mess.
As for an Ayatollah Pence, yeah that’s pretty disheartening too. Still, Trump is the Main Offender to the ongoing nature of our democracy. So good for Tom Steyer.
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The media was complicit in helping to NORMALIZE Trump's malignant narcissism, bigotry, and autocratic rule. Mika, Joe, Chris Mathews, and others on MSNBC for example, told us Trump would become presidential when he finally became president. They held out hope even when those who read the signs like Lawrence O'Donnell was sounding the alarm on the same station.
Nobody was saying Trump was a liar. Nobody was saying he was mentally ill. Thankfully, that has changed.
Now Tom Steyer has to NORMALIZE the notion of IMPEACHMENT.
Now most everybody knows what the 25th Amendment is and have heard of the previously obscure Goldwater rule because so many therapists defied it. These duty to warn therapists have made gains with so many stories being published after "Fire and Fury" that I had to stop archiving them on my blog - (links are there from the first one published up until early January halbrown.org )...
USA Today had three Opinion pieces in three days on Trump's mental and cognitive fitness for office.
Both IMPEACHMENT and if Trump becomes even more obviously unhinged, the 25th Amendment removal should be NORMALIZED.
Trump and his presidency are ABNORMAL - ways to end it should be made NORMAL.
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Does this mean the fox news set does not have to blame everything on George Soros now?
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Perhaps Dem's are embarrassed---evidently Mr. Steyer has a spine.
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T.here is no way the GOP House will impeach Trump. We need to impeach David Nunez and the Trey Gowdy minions first.
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Imagine the Republican umbridge had a billionaire tried to impeach President Obama.
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Be careful what you wish for. Pence is the poison-pill-in-waiting.
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All that money. Thank god he's on our side!
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Mueller is entirely irrelevent for impeachment. Trump told holt he fired comey to stop Russia proves. He must be impeached and removed for that alone.
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Then we get Evangelical Pence? Careful what you ask for.
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Trump will leave office on 2025.
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He won't be in office because by then there will be no republic left. He will be the dictator and stay as long has he wants.
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Best initiative and best spent money the GOP ever had. Keep it up, America now loves billionaires telling voters what to do and how smart they are. Just like Trump, a loud mouth with a fat wallet.
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how can you claim he is "just like Trump" when he hasnt colluded w/Russia or run for public office?
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"president" trump is a psychopath who needs to go immediately. Whether that is a politically convenient position to hold is avoiding the fundamental question.
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I thought there was a democratic process for these kind of things. Maybe I am just utterly naïve.
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If he's not impeached we deserve our fate and I will support his reelection if the spineless Democrats and corrupt Republican do not come to rescue our country.
The impeachment momentum will energize the Mueller investigation results. Timing is everything.
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As much as I'd love to see this POTUS out, people are missing that the next 2 in line are actually worse. Pence and Ryan are evil, vs Trump who is just dangerous.
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Does not matter what party you belong too, or if you are rich or poor, young or old; trump is a basket case and needs to get some help. He should not be in charge of anything but a reality tv game show and that is pushing it! Go Tom, we are with you all the way!
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Be careful what you wish for--Pence could be even worse!!
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As a Patriots quarterback fan, I simply can't Tom's passion. A passion that many democrats (excuse me, many who are devoted to a true democracy) need to grab on to as quickly as possible. Many of the comments posted are vicious and baseless but that is the hate state that republicans have created. Go Tom, this is even more important than the Superbowl.
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I have no problem with Mr. Steyer using his money for the greater good. That being said, perhaps his money would be better spent assuring a fair census, voting rights and gerrymandering are on the forefronts of the voters minds. This is a problem that represents one of the core tenets of the Republican manipulation of our rights as a means to gain and keep power. These acts by Republican leadership are as egregious and actionable and the benefits of fixing this would assure equal representation for all. DT will go down, but Republicans who deny us our core rights assuring fair representation will be around as it has proven to be effective.
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Course you can't run on one issue, but...
If your running to unseat a Republican and win, be ready.
If by the grace of God, Democrats take control of Congress this year, a majority of Americans will expect, in fact demand that Trump, our vulgar, incompetent, and dangerous president be impeached.
Of course that will leave the bible thumping, hypocrite of a VP Pence in charge, but that won't last long.
I signed Mr Steyer's petition and I hope you well too.
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Mr. Steyer is branding Mr. Trump as dangerous, corrupt and unstable. The endgame may not be impeachment but making Mr. Trump unable to be re-elected. The phrases of the Steyer impeachment ads will be echoed by anti-Trump Democrats seeking Republican seats in the Senate and House of Representatives this year.
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Maybe Mr. Steyer could use his money to defeat House and Senate Republicans. After all, it is their agenda which is being pursued and enacted. Trump has become their lackey, albeit a loud offensive one.
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Go Tom go. Trump is dangerously impetuous and childish and has not business being in his position. i dont' relish the thought of a Mike Pence presidency, but I think the work Steyer is doing could get a lot of dems energized sufficiently to potentially turn the House and Senate.
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Too bad Mr. Steyer is not deploying his wealth to combat some of the specific lies expounded by the Republican Party, such as VP Pence saying in front of our troops that the Democrats do not support them or the ad that accuses the Democrats of being "complicit" whoever an "illegal immigrant" commits a murder. Why not accuse a supporter of the NRA of being "complicit" whever a gun is used in a murder. Too bad the Democrats don't know how to craft messages that tell it like it is, point out the lies of the Republicans and create vital-worthy spots--and have them broadcast around the clock
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Mr Steyer's xenophobic Next Gen ads a few years ago earned him a Washington Post "Four Pinnochios" award: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2014/01/31/an-over-t.... So here we have one epistemically irresponsible billionaire with a track record of playing to xenophobic sentiments trying to get rid of another?
so here we are "fighting fire with fire" , the time for pearl-clutching has passed. grab a baseball bat, this is a street fight
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If Trump is found to be criminally culpable in obstructing justice or in Russia's interference with his own election he must be impeached. Likewise if Trump pardons anybody for their criminal liability for the same activity.
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Mr. Steyer lives in California, a state in which elected officials can (and have) been removed from office at any time, and for literally any reason, provided that enough of the electorate approves a recall election. I suspect that part of what's going on here is that he (and many of his most ardent supporters, many of whom live in California) have become so accustomed to the state's tradition of direct democracy that they forget that the same rules do not apply to federal office. You can't impeach a sitting president just because you don't like the way he conducts himself. Mr. Steyer's heart and energy are certainly in the right place, but he seems to be living in a bit of a political bubble and might benefit from a refresher course in elementary civics.
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"You can't impeach a sitting president just because you don't like the way he conducts himself" -- but thats not ANYONE'S argument
Here's a thought, Mr Steyer. Just pay the man to quit. Most, but not all men have a price and we've repeatedly seen that Trump's integrity isn't worth too much. You'll just have to outbid his donors and a few totalitarian leaders that he has continuously expressed his admiration for.
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Unlike the ill-considered shutdown, Democrats need to be strategic on this. To attempt impeachment and fail or to impeach and fail to convict would energize and embolden the worst tendencies in the incumbent. Like the Mafia Don who survives a trial and says "See, I have been proven innocent". Failing to convict is nothing of the sort in either case, but that is how it would be used and we would pay the price.
And everyone said Trump couldn't be elected? Well stranger things can happen.
In this country right now, impeaching Trump is more than a possibility?
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I think one of the problems is that the Democrats have nothing concrete to run with other than against Trump. They need things that the vast majority of people want and need and have lost during this past and upcoming year. Right now, there's nothing but the occupier of the WH to run with.
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Though I'd personally love nothing more than removing Trump from office, I fear Mike Pence even more. Unlike Trump, he is a "true believer" and as a former governor, he knows how to pass legislation. That is more frightening. The better path is to vote Democrats in office on every level, rending Trump impotent for the next three years, and then voting him out of office. In the meantime, Democrats must laser focus on a clear and concise economic message. That, and only that, is what will win elections.
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There is no reason to believe that a president can be impeached-removed for obnoxious behavior, or even promoting policies that the public abhors. Such removal may only be for cause, as articulated, "high crimes or misdemeanors." A proposal to allow removal for "maladministration" was presented to the continental congress but failed, as the founders deemed it would give congress too much control.
This could very well be articulated by the person presiding over the trial in the Senate, Chief Justice John Roberts, who could choose not to allow a vote on other than what is defined by the Constitution. The appointment of the Chief Justice to preside over the Senate trial was not an empty gesture.
Yes, there is a prima facie case for impeachment of the president. That does not mean it should happen now. Assuming Dems take the House in 2018, you still need 2/3 vote of Senate for conviction. Really, the only chance for impeachment is if Mueller turns up serious evidence of collusion and law-breaking by the President. That would be the time to ask Republican senators to put country over party and vote for conviction. Any effort to impeach now is just an expenditure of emotional energy that may satisfy those who need it, but it accomplishes nothing.
I have watched several different TV commercials paid for by Mr. Steyer, they are to the point about the worst President this country has ever had. Whether they will convince his base is probably a hard sell. However, he is putting his "money where is mouth is" and for that I am extremely grateful.
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I, too, am a Vietnam vet and I agree.
How is impeachment less democratic than the fact that the President is chosen, not by the people, but by an electoral college which definitely was not democratic in 2016? On the other hand impeachment can only occur if the people's directly elected representatives vote to do so, Impeachment is without question democratic. Also,why put it in the Constitution if it is not to be used?
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In Trump-o the clowns world along with the two ring circus that has become congress, the ends justifies the means. If blatantly lying to their constituency get their agenda through, then they will do what they need to.
Should the democrats take the higher road, is opening government more important, that's a question for individuals to decide. The fact is we will be right back here in a few short weeks, if McConnell backs out or shows no positive movement towards his promise, then the democrats needs to shut down the government. With that said, this may be a sound strategy by the democrats, first, show that you're willing to take the high road, and honor the word of a colleague regardless of party affiliation. If McConnell, doesn't do what he's publicly promised to do in terms of DACA, then the democrats are in a much better position to say, we tried to work with McConnell, and Trump-o the clown's administration, but McConnell wasn't having it.
How about using some of those millions to secure the voting process. our coming elections from both domestic and foreign interference. And while you are at it start a foundation to actually combat the Russian hackers. Recruit bright young Americans and take on the many hundreds of Russian government supported hackers. You can be sure right now that they are busy with plans to mess with our election.
Maybe this new Steyer foundation could find all of the Republican emails that the Russians hacked when they did the Democrats. They just haven't used them yet (well it would explain Lindsey Graham's turn around on Russia).
Rushing to impeach Trump while Mueller is still at work seems to be Steyer building up his own email list. Why can't the billionaires just leave us alone?
Democrats know that if they seem too far outside the desires of most voters, they will not bring out the voters that they need to win seats in Congress, so they are appalled by Streyer's efforts to sell the people on impeaching Trump. But if Streyer can sell it to the majority of voters, Democrats and Independents, it won't have spoiled the Democrats' chances for winning seats.
As more of Trump's behaviors which have been unknown to most people previously indicate worse and worse behaviors, the merits which justify impeachment seem to be becoming more likely. Money laundering in the properties where he does business, payoffs to women to conceal adulterous acts, closer and closer interactions between the Russian government and Trump's campaign, and who knows what else are coming into view, now. It might just be that Trump ample evidence demanding impeachment might be disregarded by Congress unless Democrats control it.
So Streyer's extreme stance could prove to be the right stance in the Fall.
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I think it is more than fine to end every call to our members of Congress-- regardless of issues being called about-- with, "trump must go." And I do not think that most Democrats (and even some Republicans) are rattled by this. Instead, moderate Republicans and Dems are likely encouraged to continue organizing their facts and forms, so that they are ready when Mueller indicts trump.
And... Mueller and team need to take all the time they need in order to ensure that all their cases are rock solid. This is our nation they are defending.
It's the 24 Republican House members who need to be separated from the pack, not the Democrats in solidly blue states, who people should be focused on trying to influence.
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At least Steyer is brave enough to put his face on t.v. and doesn’t hide behind shadow campaigns like the Kochs and the Mercers. There is nothing about his efforts that scream “dark money” and it’s not equivalent to the efforts of the big GOP donors. He’s merely being a leader, being visible and putting his money where his mouth is. That said the Citizens United decision has clearly put our democracy back 80 years and needs a major legislative fix.
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Steyer needs to stop, like right now. All he's doing is ginning up unrealistic expectations that will inevitably lead to failure and disillusionment.
No matter how well Democrats do in the 2018 midterms, there will not be anything close to the two-thirds majority needed to convict on impeachment charges. So when impeachment inevitably fails, all those voters who bought into Steyer's propaganda will be disgusted with Democratic leaders - right in time for the 2020 elections.
The one thing we really can't afford is a disillusioned Democratic voter base going into Trump's re-election campaign.
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Whether you think impeachment is practical, there are very good grounds for doing so, and it is important to let the people know that but for a bunch of Republican toadies Trump should be out of office. A great, great many people understand he is a disaster and shouldn't be running the country. Dems need to stir people up in every possible way, and who knows what smoking guns will turn up.
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This man's campaign may be premature, but the Times, meanwhile, reports on authoritarian moves, bouts of incompetency and potentially deadly dangers on display in the Oval Office just about every day--while denigrating any efforts to do anything about it whatsoever and cheering the complacency of the least willing to act. Beltway "wisdom" at its worst. There's a country out here.
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There is indeed a Country out here and it democratically elected Donald Trump. To suggest the influence of money and power can outweigh the votes of Americans is treasonous.
Time will tell who was and wasn't preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States. And where, if anywhere in this saga, treason might be found.
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There was a Republic out there but I fear it has died.
Mr. Steyer is to be praised for standing on principles. Trump was illegally placed in office and continues to practice his family business while in office. However, we need to keep in mind that 40 million registered!! voters stayed home in 2016. Getting people to the polls in every election going forward will be key to throwing out the Republican dictators that have taken over our nation through lies and deceit.
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The real damage is being done by trump's minions in the depths of every department. The cabinet secretaries and administrators get all the press but those people are giving orders throughout their organisations to scuttle regulations and guidelines that protect workers and the environment, set food safety standards, make our cars and aircraft safer, provide for legal redress by citizens against the government, and a million other things that business doesn't want. As long as these people are beholden to trump for their jobs they are going to slash and burn and none of it will make headlines.
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It's really important that this message comes from well-spoken and dynamic people outside of the party as it generates a lot of credibility for the cause. I think it's great what they do, and it can only support the Democrats in the future.
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I am a liberal democrat in 100% support of everything that Mr Steyer is doing. I admire him for taking a stand, and I stand with him over and above the compromising elected democrats and even Bernie. Steyer has a mission. He is trying to save the planet. He see the danger posed by Trump to our country and to the future of humanity. This is not a political self interested campaign. Trump must be stopped along with the special interests he green lights. The planet cannot survive his politics.
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Like much of the Constitution, the impeachment process was designed to limit something that had gotten out of hand in the old country. Conflict between Parliament and King was fought partly by impeaching the King's appointees, with criminal penalties to boot. Sound familiar? That's why the House has the job of bringing articles of impeachment, and the Senate the job of trying them, with only removal from office as the penalty for conviction. And that's why a war of impeachment and counter-impeachment needs to be avoided at all costs.
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It's not like the Koch Brothers are going to sit it out anytime soon - unfortunately I'm loath to admit, but we need an anti-thesis to them and people like Mr Steyer seem to be willing to step up.
If he wants to spend his considerable money on social change instead of buying more islands, boats and planes then I say go ahead.
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Since the majority of Americans cannot do it alone, I for one hope that Mr. Steyer stays the course and leaves this impeachment movement on the table and lets it gather momentum to carry the House for the Democrats this November.
Potential crimes and known corruption aside, Trump is not an American president as he wants to destroy our democracy and our Constitution. He refuses to recognize the majority of Americans and there are only two colors working in the Trump spectrum, white and green.
If you are not upholding our democratic processes, and have nothing but contempt, and disdain for the majority of Americans who are not white and wealthy, then you should either stand down on your own for not doing your job as the American president, or be impeached and removed by the people whose health and welfare does not concern you.
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President Clinton was impeached in December 1998. When he left office in 2000 he had an approval rating of over 65%, around his highest.
Not only would impeachment proceedings against Trump fail, given the composition of the House, but certainly 2/3 of the Senate would not convict even if Trump were impeached, but such an attempt could even lead to this bully of a president being seen as a victim. Perception creates new realities.
Moral outrage is fine for motivation, but strategic thinking of the and-then-what variety is necessary.
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Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about having an extramarital affair. Think about that for a second and compare to the corrupt we have in the administration now. I remember the Republicans with "Impeach Clinton" bumper stickers from the time he was inaugurated. If Democrats in Congress can't do what is right then the people will take over the job.
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What a waste of money! He could be running ads attacking the GOP instead which might do some good.
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This is why the Democrats are a bankrupt party. Unable to take the mood of their natural constituents and get them to vote. Example A is the govt shutdown. They had hundreds of thousands on the street over the weekend, jazzed, ready to take on the mantle of the Resistance. Then Schumer - tone deaf and blind - pulls the rug out and makes a ridiculous deal.
Schumer & Pelosi must go if the Democrats are ever hopeful of flipping Congress. They are in the past. Unable or unwilling to take firm stands of the people who support Progressive, maybe even radical - Impeachment?- ideas. To win and win big they need to think big. To take the pulse of the people and ride that wave. Lead or get out of the way.
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He is a leader. Pelosi and Schumer are generals. The Democratic party needs leaders.
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Tom Steyer is a true Patriot! The public is supporting you and the grassroots will have their say during the November 2018 Midterm Elections. The Democratic leadership are sellouts; look at the lack of a DACA deal and government shutdown yielding spectacular results for Mitch McConnell & the GOP Greedy Old Party. "I yield the floor."
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Mr Steyer's money would be much more fruitful if he put it into grass roots campaigns - that will take a little more research - find those black groups in Alabama who elected Doug Jones, the grass roots groups in VA on the ground, who got the students from DC on buses to Virginia. Another great group Sister District - voters in blue states pick a "sister district" (this is not just for women) in a red state and support/elect state legislators because that is battle ground for voter suppression. We need get back these legislatures before the 2020 census and next round of gerrymandering. Impeachment is a distraction - and what will that get us? Pence? It will take a long time and doesn't stop the moves DT is making to ruin people's lives - eg DACA, health care, education? Yes of course he's incompetent, etc but this is a waste of your money Mr. Steyer. Help us on the ground please.....https://www.sisterdistrict.com/margaret-good-florida-72/
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It’s not about impeachment or not impeachment.i it’s about getting a totally unqualified, and even harmful and dangerous person out of the the office of president. It’s a matter of human courage and recognition of reality and the moral commitment it entails. The Congress is full of corrupt cowards who clearly know what they are doing, that is, putting their grip on power ahead of the people they supposedly represent. They will not change. It is you and me who must speak up and join forces to remove Trump.
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This Trump fiasco is below the dignity of a modern Democracy. He, the GOP, and the Russians hacked, cheated, subverted and stole the election. Once in office they've doggedly worked to dismantle what has taken a century to build. They must be removed from office. It's long past time to play hardball. I stand with Tom Steyer.
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Imagine if the Koch brothers pulled a similar stunt on Obama. That would have been a sight to see, "progressive's" heads would have exploded.
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They are too smart because they do everything in a rather secretive, obtuse manner so that they get the results with the credit. They were there, you just did not know it.
The Republicans are performing character assassination on the FBI, the Mueller team, Hillary, Chuck, and Nancy with every news cycle. DJT flings insults at world leaders, and anyone who receives MSM favorable notice. Mobilization of citizen outrage driven by this administration's grifter mentality is completely in order.
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I don't want him impeached. I want him thrown into prison for money laundering and treason, along with anyone else who aided and abetted him.
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I don't mind if Steyer goes after an impeachment for Trump. Trump deserves it. Morally Trump deserves it. But I think impeachment is extremely unlikely given that the house, which must begin the process, is very much controlled by Mr. Trump's own party and it is difficult to imagine what it would take to get the Republican party to try to impeach Trump.
Another problem is that the impeachment of Bill Clinton should be an example. Even though the House was able to impeach Clinton, because they were Republicans, they were seen as petty political opportunists and the impeachment actually improved Clinton's approval rating to astronomical levels. The attempt to impeach Clinton actually blew up in the faces of the Republicans who went after him and harmed their party in the long run.
So, sure, Trump deserves to be impeach and I am happy for Mr. Steyer to be nipping at his heals, but I don't think the Democratic party can or should impeach Trump. Now after, 2018 elections, the Dems could possibly have enough power in the house to impeach Trump, but even then they should proceed with caution that they don't make Trump even more popular than he is.
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It's quite clear that Trump won't be impeached in the near future but Steyer's carrying on will draw Trump's attention and he'll likely make yet another asinine comment which will be to his detriment.
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He should just give his money to poor people. Then his money would actually be doing something.
Once I read that he made his fortune as a hedge fund investor I decided he can spend all the money he wants, I won't listen.
Don't get me wrong. I hate Trump. I just am not going to listen to what some billionaire says about anything.
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I hate to be cynical, and repetitive, but from a political point of view, it is better to keep Trump in office, President Albatross, and let the Republicans explain him to the voters. Otherwise, Pious Pense becomes president and anyone who succeeds Trump is going to look like the Second Coming of the Messiah and the Republicans will continue their march in turning America into a plutocracy or autocracy. Someone suggested then impeaching Pense, but sanctimoniousness does not rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. JD
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You go Mr. Steyer!
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What a colossal waste of time and money. Even if Trump goes down, we get Pence, who is far more dangerous because he presents a mild, bland face. The real problem is the entire Republican party, top to bottom. They are Trump's enablers and co-conspirators. The only way to stop Trump is at the voting booth, beginning this November. Every Democrat, independent and, yes, moral Republican needs to vote these bottom feeders out of office.
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Steyer for President.
Why is the man who holds the most important job in the world immune from being fired for ineptitude? You and I are.
Steyer sees it and calls it clearly. That's much more than the current leadership of either party - yes, mine too - does right now. Straight talk, with the money to back it up. Where have you been, and what can I do to help?
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Because he was democratically elected. He wasn’t hired into a job like you and me. You may not like him but he won the election. Now you have to grin and bear it until the next one.
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The answer to Trump is not to impeach him - which will make Mr. Pence president, a true believer in conservative values - but to make him ineffective, which will be relatively easily done in November if people like Mr. Steyer spend their money in intelligently chosen house and senate races. Both houses could change hands though even just one or the other would seriously constrain Trump, both could essentially tie his hands for the rest of his term. Impeachment or even the open discussion will drive the wavering moderates (Republicans) back into hard partisan ideology.
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The biggest problem with impeaching Trump is that we are then left with President Pence. And that scares me just as much.
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Well, the President hasn't murdered anyone yet. Although he claims he could without losing a single vote from his constituents. After reading some of these tender comments, I can believe it.
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Trump is trying to murder our Democracy, a high crime I’d say.
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I would encourage Libs to go all out in trying to impeach Trump. They should also try to shut down the entire government again to get more "rights" for illegals. They should expand the list of sanctuary cities and continue to hide violent illegals from the Feds. They should refuse to fund the Wall and include Hillary's "open borders dream" in the DNC policy statement. They should try to gut the new Republican tax cut law and replace it with a tax hike.
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This guy is a gift to the GOP. He is trying to remove a president he dislikes by the power of media, money, and legislative act by pressure..... not by the ballot box. Were Trump to be impeached by a Dem controlled congress in 2019, it would IGNITE the GOP base. Steyer needs to keep burning those millions.
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My fondest wish is that this helps. Three more years of this administration and there our protections and safety nets will be gone and there will be little left of our rights and democracy. I hope he energizes enough people to make a change in November, if nothing else.
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Another example of how catastrophic the Citizens United and McCutcheon Supreme Court decisions have been for our democracy.
Look, I'm as progressive as the day is long, and I despise what Trump and his administration are doing to our nation with a white-hot intensity. But I don't like the idea of our political discourse being dictated or trumpeted by hyper-wealthy individuals. I don't want our politics to boil down to a financial fist-fight between the Koch Brothers and Tom Steyer.
What really needs to be removed from our politics is the overwhelming amount of financial corruption that exists at all levels and within both parties. We need publicly funded elections, not bloated cash-contests. We also need more candidates from the middle class, and even the poor, not just those who have access to those with the biggest checkbooks. We will never have broader positive change for the majority of the American people as long as a wealthy few are allowed to come up with all of the ideas.
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If Mr. Trump is removed, then Vice President Pence becomes the man in charge. This christian zealot could be a lot worse for women and such lesser beings as share the planet with his tribe of believers.
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You gotta fight fire with fire.
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This is exactly the kind of liberal bubble world condescending know-it-all attitude that made the 70k or so swing voters in key states vote for Trump.
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You can't (logically) say Trump is a dangerous menace, but should not be impeached.
However, you can say he should be impeached but Republicans won't do it.
The inference from that message is clear.
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Did GOP Special Interest PACS and FOX's strident attacking Obama unnerve Republicans? If it unnerves them Good.
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I hope Democrats focus on policies and issues and not Trump!
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Keep this up Tom. I too signed on to his petition and am glad to hear a critical voice challenging the egregiously incompetent un presidential liar in chief.
Why do Democrats fail to speak with passion against the worst president in modern history. Stop caving and start yelling against the kleptocracy of Trump and family to end. Democrats must have a message. Should be obnoxious, persistent and demonstrate a lot more confidence.
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Impeach Trump, then you get President Pence. That’s a much worse situation. Why would you want to do that?
Let Trump do what he does best, destroy the Republican brand.
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Losers. What makes Mr Moneybags qualified to run our government? He wants to get rid of Trump, then what?
The Democratic crowd has lost their senses. It’s one hairbrained extreme scheme after another. It’s just well that they lost. Their pathological, disjointed, reactionary logic is being exposed.
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And so is your ignorance, unless of course you're talking about the GOP. Sounds like their M.O.
As for getting rid of Trump, the process for impeachment is established and no, there is no 'takeover'.
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Two words: “emoluments clause”. Mueller’s investigation must of course run its course, because it will eventually find not simply impeachable offenses (which are whatever Congress agrees they are), but (as has already happened) criminal conduct, which will land Trump and his laughably inept band of co-conspirators in prison. Then the bloodbath to purge Trump’s enablers at all levels of government must go forward.
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Trump and the Russians are still colluding. The Russian Troll Farm just helped him by tweeting #SchumerShutdown until it was trending. And Trump continues to let Russia get away with whatever they want.
The Republicans are doing nothing to stop the Russians from interfering in our elections again this year. I guess they think they need the help again in 2018 to protect them from the blue wave.
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Trump and his entire coterie are not merely lawless. They are brazenly lawless. His cabinet secretaries are busy destroying the very fabric of our government while his personal clown show distracts the media and destroys the norms of our society. This is no mere accident or coincidence. This is a carefully calibrated program conceived with the active assistance of, and possibly directed by, his Russian puppeteers. Trump is the real enemy of the people.
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Dems need to stop focusing on impeachment, whether Trump is racist, his latest tweets, his health, what a jerk he is in general - all this may feel good but it is counterproductive in convincing conservatives to jump ship, in having more civil dialog, in winning elections, and ultimately in getting good policy.
Focus on policy, the inability of Trump et. al. to implement certain promises, and the inability of the promised policies that can be implemented to deliver as promised (jobs, safety, less public money), the effects of which are bad for individuals. Leaving the ugly leader of the party in place, as he embarrasses more and more of his party and supporters and exposes other for what they are, is not a bad thing; making him into a victim, and his supporters by extension is not a good idea.
Trump, Pence, Ryan, and the rest of the Trump players need to be out of public office. Period.
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The Democrats need a wake-up call in as many forms as possible; since they won't listen to their own constituents it may as well come from Steyer
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Maybe they should run together, for the next election cycle! If we can get someone like Stuyer who, like Trump, seems to understand business and keep the economy strong, more people would be likely to vote for the Democrats! I’m no Trump supporter and find some of his actions and sayings loathsome, but I’m slowly getting persuaded that maybe he is good for America! It is amazing how well the stock market is doing and it seems that the tax reform will help some of us, even down at the lower end of the income scale! It is amazing the faith global corporations seem to be showing in Trump! And, to some extent even some of the threatening outside influences, like the ISIS and North Koreans are cowing down! Believe me, for a “Progressive Democrat,” I’m beginning to think there must be something to him!
Impeachment has to happen. the sooner the better. That said, Democrats DO need to attack on all fronts when confronting local elections.
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First you have to win control of Congress, then impeachment becomes an option. Talking about impeachment BEFORE wining control of Congress hurts the chance of gaining control. We need to focus on policy issues.
And in particular, focusing on economic issues and unfairness is the way to win control, and always has been.
A constant drumbeat for #metoo and immigration and transgender bathroom issues are not the way. I am as liberal as they come on those issues, but I'm practical enough to understand that if you want to address them, they will NOT help you gain control of Congress, and in fact will hurt Democrats.
If Pelosi really wants to avoid divisive issues ahead of the mid-terms, the best thing she can do is resign from her leadership post and allow another lesser known progressive woman to take her place. The notion of Pelosi as speaker (albeit unfairly) is way more divisive than any talk of impeachment which even at this early stage is quite popular. The GOP base has been brain-washed by FOX into hating Pelosi at a visceral level the same way they hated Hillary Clinton and sadly, it works. Removing herself from the equation could produce a 1-2 point boost for Dems in terms of lower GOP base turnout.
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@CDP
A 'lesser' known woman, really? So the Democrats should just get rid of any female politician the Republicans don't like and that will boost voting for the replacement? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
As long as the impeachment issue is alive and well the midterms may evolve into a plebiscite to remove Trump. Which could unify centrist and liberal Democrats. Steyer would do well to start a vote to impeach movement
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I don't see how Steyer has thought this through, and if he has, I fail to see an acceptable end game - particularly inasmuch as the issues and causes Steyer has pursued are not strictly Trumpian. That Trump will go down in history as the worst president ever is a foregone conclusion, in my mind. That he should be removed from the Oval Office sooner than later would otherwise be welcomed.
But where does the line of succession get Steyer, or us? With the erratic and unprincipled Trump, it's hard to guess what his next move will be, other than to make himself richer. His handmaiden Pence, freed from Trump shackles, will pursue an agenda just as devastating, without the drama. And if Pence is caught up in the Mueller probe, that leaves us with Ryan, who, from a pure policy standpoint and with a compliant Congress, could make Trump look like our favorite uncle. Trump may be an unprincipled devil we don't know, but Ryan is focused on a devil's agenda that we should work to head off at all costs.
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The e-mails coming out of the Steyer “campaign” seem to take a page out of the FOX News /Sean Hannity / Rush Limbaugh school, in that they are designed to push hot buttons and rile up the base. I for one would prefer a little less hat and a little more cattle as we say here in Texas.
By that I mean more policy substance and less empty accusation and name calling. We have enough of that hot air on all sides already. I agree that Trump is incompetent and ill suited for POTUS but he’s not the devil incarnate. The way to short circuit his Presidency is to focus on his more than evident shortcomings and flawed policies in a factual and level headed way.
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Until the Citizens United ruling is reversed Democrats should fight fire with fire. I support Tom Steyer and I am a Democrat who is far from "rattled"
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I am a democrat. I am NOT rattled, only GRATEFUL to Tom Steyer.
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Someone has to bang the drum slowly! Thank you Mr. Steyer for doing it.
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They force Franken out without an inquiry, but they tiptoe around the idea of impeaching Trump. A word comes to mind: chickens! Of course there are other, more important issues, but impeachment should also be out there.
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I love the Rep who thinks they will deal with it "if Mueller finds something impeachable." Impeachment is Congress's job. Mueller is looking for criminal cases, not impeachable offenses. The fact that the president is a threat to our national security and our very existence was impeachable a long time ago. It is not Mueller's job to impeach the president. It is Congress that has an obligation to defend the Constitution and protect the American public, which, in their endless cowardice, they have failed to do. Congressional Democrats are at least as big a part of the problem as Republicans.
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If you think the Koch brothers are a threat to democracy you should be even more concerned about Steyer. No matter how much you agree with his agenda you should fear where it leads. The 2016 presidential election cost about 2.5 billion, the whole election cycle about 6.5 billion. For perspective Jeff Bezos is worth 125 billion.
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I think he needs to spend his money and time ending the Electoral College. We need to end this antiquated system, so we can have truly free and fair elections.
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Read today's headline about climate change. Then read about the destruction of our modest climate regulatory structure by Trump. Then think for a moment. Steyer isn't out front as much as right on the money. We need leaders that read all the headlines.
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Because he has committed impeachable offenses, the effort to impeach Trump must continue, and gather force. The effort might best be launched in earnest after the Mueller investigation ends and/or the midterms are concluded. How the electorate might view the Dems for pushing an impeachment drive is of minor concern to me, compared to the absolute necessity of removing him from office.
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I applaud his motivation, but he's making a significant tactical error: he should focus on gaining Republican Congress-members. They are there, and they are waiting for the proper tone of the calls to emerge.
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An accidental nuclear war is more likely with Trump in power. For that reason alone, Trump should be impeached. Yes, the two men next in line, Vice President Pence and Speaker Ryan, are likely to continue bad conservative policies, but they are far less dangerous to cause an accidental nuclear conflagration.
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The USA continues to maintain the usufructs of democracy but the reality is that since Reagan facts have been in short supply and cynicism and distrust are Washington's main products.
I am a Canadian and we are a parliamentary democracy a vote of no confidence means a new government. Time after time the American public has been kept in the dark as your Executive has engaged in behaviour detrimental to your people well being but since the Beirut hostages and Iran/Contra. I realize that not telling the whole truth goes back to before recorded history but the tools developed to mislead and obfuscate have left citizens with only the most drastic remedies.
Trump will not be impeached and the damage he and the GOP do in the next few years will not easily be undone if even it can be undone.
I understand Mr Steyer's alarm and as someone who desires an America with the hope and optimism it once knew I am in full support.
I am almost 70 and know I will never see the return of the America I once knew. I still remember Barry Goldwater reading the words of Karl Hess.
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
I remember my father saying extremism does not belong with free and fair elections. America has lost its free and fair elections to extremism. Impeachment seems a rather moderate response to the consequences of a government owned and operated by the most successful kleptocrats even if a little late and a little futile.
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It's nice to know that there is someone, like Steyer, who counterbalances the influence of the Koch Brothers and their neo-liberalism. Though Mr. Steyer's approaches may be imperfect, I would hope the Democratic Party appreciates the spirit and impulse of Mr. Steyer's helpful contributions.
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Given recent events, it doesn't take much to rattle the Democrats nowadays.
The idea that Democrats can come up with a perfect strategy to overcome their minority position is pure fantasy. They'll be steamrolled over and over again until the 2018 mid-terms hopefully level the playing field a bit.
In the meantime, Democrats should encourage good people like Steyer to speak his mind and build an organization. It is a good thing if opposition to the Trump administration looks like a many-headed hydra.
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The word "mercurial" seems overused in this essay. I wonder what it's code for? Impractical? Radical? Quirky? Going for impeachment now may seem a bridge too far, but the time-line of events and the president's personal conduct in office speak for themselves. It is not Mr. Steyer who has behaved in a way that makes impeachment seem both necessary and warranted.
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He got his tax cut, now it is time to get rid of the one person stupid enough to let the tax cuts happen. Trump, always has been a liability, now he is a major one. One misstep, by Trump, could send the markets in the wrong direction, and reduce their wealth. So, the wealthy have decided it is time for him to go. Watch as more powerful billionaires just Steyer to convince the masses, and Congress, that Trump must go. They need to find a more safer stooge, Pence or Ryan, come to mind.
So, look at this as a Trojan Horse, than a recuse from Trump. One of those be careful what you ask for situations. Or worse, a nice "Catch-22". In teh end, the masses lose regardless, and the 1% get what they want, and more wealth too.
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Steyer doesn't really want to impreach Trump. He wants to become Trump.
Trump entered politics by using the birther movement to discredit Obama. Steyer is using exactly the same tactics, pressing various silly buttons to discredit Trump.
He knows that Trump won't be impeached. Steyer just wants to increase his visibility, especially among the far left wing of the Democratic Party, and his ads and organization efforts are simply a means to do it.
Steyer will run for president in either 2020 or 2024 at the latest. His efforts will probably go down in flames when he does, but he's got the billions to spare, so why not give it a shot.
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Not exactly a solid analogy. Trump also had reality TV and a lifetime of self-promotion behind him. This guy is basically unknown, even after months of spending; most people couldn't even name him ("that billionaire who wants to impeach Trump"). And his methods for getting attention are 100% less assholic. I'd love to see him (or anyone) get Trump impeached, but if he doesn't, he'll just disappear.
I'd actually go for anyone but Trump line anytime of the day.
Tom Steyer needs a good reason for calling for impeachment hearings for President Trump and so far there have been none. It is highly unlikely he will find any but if he wants to whittle away his billions good luck to him. This will just embolden the Trump supporters so go ahead and do it.
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Where is all of the angst from the liberal quarter over big money in politics and the Citizen United decision. Mr. Steyer and the labor unions are the largest contributors and spenders of money to influence politics hands down. The Koch brothers are small potatoes when it comes to throwing money around to buy elections.
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Two things, maybe three: 1. money should not buy any presidency. It will backfire. The idea that money buys consciences is when you think about it, rather appalling. 2. The will of the people should shine in the voting booth, giving undeniable proof that they do not want Trump or his ilk anywhere near their government again. May they have the wisdom to vote, and do it wisely. Change things using the structures of democracy. The feeble idea of the electoral college aside, it's obvious who really won the popular vote for president. Make it more obvious who didn't win. Vote. Oh and 3. Parliamentary procedures allow for more flexibility in who leads a party and forms a government.
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Key Democrats have a problem with the straight forward and organized efforts of Steyer in face of the withering vilification by Trump and the Republicans of Obama, Clinton and Demos? And let’s not forget about the criminal accusations (Lock her up) and clear obstruction of justice. Time for some new leadership.
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Both Parties have taken Koch brothers' money so who is surprised that congressional democrats are backing away from Tom Steyer at this point. They do this at their own peril. Steyer has my support and I am a conservative who is sick and tired of being sick and tired. He says what most of us are thinking and I appreciate all of his efforts. Congressional Democrats would be wise to take a page from his straight talk approach to truth telling. They should stand up for the common good and not react to the greatest fount of weakness - fear.
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A recent Rachel Maddow show told of extremely crooked-appearing dealings between one of Trump's associates and the former president of the Kazakhstan bank. This president, refused asylum in Great Britain, is suspected/accused of stealing several billion dollars from his country's treasury. Is this being investigated?
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I feel like that Trump has made some bad decisions, but what about our past presidents that have done worse than Trump?
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While Democrats intend to run on a fiercely anti-Trump message this year, party leaders envision a campaign of broad attacks on the president’s economic agenda rather than a blunt-force impeachment pledge."
So where is it? Where are the demands, the list of things Trump has done wrong, and the fiery orator who can take on this clown and the leadership of the Congressional GOP? I don't think there's a chance of impeachment, either, but talking about is must be frightening at least a few people. C'mon Democrats, who is going to shout this president's sins from the rooftops, instead of talking gently about "my friends" in the Senate?
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I am concerned that the closer Trump gets to being ousted in one way or another, the more dangerous he becomes.
He has apparently stated privately that an attack on this country would guarantee him another term. You can perhaps see where this is going.
If Steyer wants to have an impact, maybe there are other ways for him to help. (I don't know enough about political maneuvering to point to something where Steyer could make a difference other than supporting democratic candidates which he's already doing.)
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Here's an idea: Instead of funding impeachment, why not fund a campaign effort to end the Electoral College? Trump lost the majority vote, and so did Bush 2, yet both were president based on an archaic system from the days when there were only 13 states, slavery was legal, and women couldn't vote. It is outdated and doesn't make sense anymore. Furthermore, no state governors, members of congress on the federal or state level, or any other officials are elected with such a system.
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The US Constitution is almost 230 years old. It is very largely based on an act of parliament from 101 years prior to that (conveniently not taught in US history classes). It is no longer fit for purpose because it was made to be far too difficult to amend. That was intentional and made some sense at the time, but even some of its foremost framers made clear that it was not meant to be a permanent solution, and it should not be a sacred text. It was designed to embody a very small number of changes and fix power in the hands of a landed and, to a lesser extent, professional elite very much in the manner of England but without inheritable titles. It was designed to prevent further instability. Instead it has promoted stultification. Most other nations based on the English system, meanwhile, have progressed and allowed consistently greater social and political mobility while America has enjoyed brief bursts of the same hemmed in by a normalcy of plutocracy bordering on feudalism. I may agree with the outcome Steyer would like to see, but his methods are counterproductive and he underscores the ultimate problem: the governing document of this nation is not fit for purpose in this century and it is corruptible. It needs radical reformation. Above all, the head of state should no longer be the head of government and should be above the fray to provide union rather than division. If no previous President has demonstrated this clearly, the current pretender to the role surely has.
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While I am not one who thinks that trump deserves another hour in the White House, I do think that Mr. Steyer would be better positioned to remove trump by funding campaigns in a big way. Once the House is returned to the Democrats, talk of impeachment - for which there is ample cause - should be placed high on the agenda. But we may not, as a country, survive until November.
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It's a legitimate demand of the voters to want to know if the candidate they will vote for in the Midterms will press for impeachment when and if the time is ripe - that is, Mueller investigation's revelations, House majority, and Senate 2/3 are attained or very close.
We want to vote for candidates who will push for impeachment because the majority of American people are angry with Trump's racist words and agendas. We are furious with Trump's immaturity isolating the US in world affairs and taking us ever closer to a senseless nuclear war.
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I've put my name on the petition already, but I'm inclined to believe the proper time for impeachment will be at the close of the Mueller investigation; there'll be plenty of fuel for the fire.
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The President should be impeached for treason or money laundering and tax evasion. Fortunately, at the moment at least, that's a legal process and not a political process.
Democrats, as in party members or voters can do what they wish. Democratic party members who are in the US Congress on the other hand should be careful not to politicize impeachment or the process. There should be no impeachment until a legal standard can be met. While that definition in the Constitution is nebulous, it is not political or trivial.
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The Koch Brothers support and energize their base thorough educational institution grants, foundations, think-tanks and PACs of their own making, with their own money, with as much obfuscation as possible to mask their involvement. Mr. Steyer, on the other hand, is openly exciting and building an opposing base, by focusing on a radical proposition, the impeachment of the president. This is unlikely to occur but clearly, the end result will be the activation of people to the political process. That, my fellow citizens, could be the revolutionary development that saves our Republic.
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I would love to see Trump removed from office as much as anyone, but we need to be realistic here. Certainly so long as Republicans hold majorities in both the House and Senate, any impeachment effort will fail. And even if Democrats take the Senate later this year, we still need to keep in mind that it takes a 2/3 vote at a Senate trial in order to convict on an impeachment. And it's not like there are any Howard Bakers or Barry Goldwaters among House and Senate Republicans, as there were when Nixon was forced to resign.
And we should also consider well the consequences of a failed impeachment effort: it would likely have the effect of strengthening Trump politically.
I tell you what, it is this kind of avoidance of doing one's job, of not serving the public good, but of protecting one's political position that will make me vote for neither Democrat (or Republican - usually not on my list to begin with) anymore.
I mean, if you fools cannot separate your SELF from the job as a public servant, you aren't doing me any good to begin with.
Mr. Steyer thank you for doing the job elected Dems should be doing.
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Impeachment is not promoted by firing up constituents of the Democratic Congressional minority. It might, however, happen if there is enough evidence of crimes and misdemeanors to persuade moderate Congressional Republicans.
That, in turn, however, requires more than just hoping Robert Mueller will ride in with bright shiny package of smoking guns. Democrats should be threatening to shut down the government over presidential tax returns and conflicts of interest, forcing Mr. Trump to show whether or not he can act presidential and put country over his own business empire.
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The Democrats should shut down the govt. because of tax returns Trump has no legal obligation to produce? Or conflicts of interest that may or may not exist but, regardless, are not legal bars to his occupation of the White House? What would that bode for governing the country in the future?
Trump can be voted out in less than three years. That's what makes our system stable, not the concept of creating coups simply because you really, really don't like the current occupant of the White House.
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As far as I'm concerned this is still a free country, despite what Trump and many
republicans would have us believe. Dark money has propelled the GOP since Citizens United. Democratic donors have tried to do go a more forward path.
So if Steyer is using his money to keep the idea of impeachment out there and remind us we must look at Trump and his administration by their actions and deeds. There is a lot of 'there' there and Mueller needs to put a wrapper on it and tie it with the proverbial bow.
There is nothing subversive about reminding us that once we have a lot at risk by allowing Trump to get away with what is clearly an incompetent and getting sleazier all the time swamp.
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Good for Mr. Steyer. I signed that online thing a while ago. Stay at it. Trump is a monstrous thing . SO are the Republicans and Democrats. Clean house in Washington. Take down that corrupt power structure. Yes go at it.
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Please explain why Mr. Steyer should obey the brilliant Democratic strategists who had to recork their champaign bottles on the evening of November 8, 2016. What's wrong with getting the notion out that this president is a threat to the country and all humanity? How does that damage the Democratic "brand", whatever that is? Steyer's telling the truth. What is "caution" in a situation like this?
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The GOP will impeach Trump when they’re ready. They already know Pence would simplify the Presidency for them, but they don’t know how to spin the image of the GOP dumping their man.
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For all those who say, “... but if you impeach Trump, you’re stuck with Pence, which makes no difference in the policy and legislative agenda.” And that is complete true.
But impeaching Trump is about sending a message. It is about drawing a bright line and saying, “His behavior is wholly unacceptable and he is utterly unfit to occupy the Office of President.” It is about saying we cannot have this sort of person in any kind of leadership position ever again.
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I've written repeatedly to the effect that Trump is a disgrace, a narcissistic sociopath totally unsuited to the presidency. And this was before the election! Yet, as with Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, "impeaching" a president doesn't remove him from office. He still needs to be "convicted" by two-thirds of the Senate, and frankly, that won't be happening anytime soon. Nor will impeachment as long as Republicans hold a House majority. Now that may change after the 2018 midterms and if Mueller issues the scathing report as expected, but no one should get their hopes up for a removal of Trump from office. I vividly recall the summer of 1974 and the forces that led to Nixon's resignation. As they say, "this Senate isn't your father's Senate"...it isn't even close. The "lions" of the Senate have morphed into lobbyist-controlled fund-raising machines that answer to virtually no one but the moneyed interests. And that goes for most Democrats as well, as famously Schumer caved to Wall St. on the carried interest preference over the past decade. And Schumer's most recent "cave" on the shutdown wasn't much better. But Steyer should keep at it nonetheless. Who knows, maybe a miracle will occur.
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His money would be better spent moving Puerto Ricans to swing districts.
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Nice to see there are nutcases on the left as well as the right. McConnell already set a dangerous precedent with denying Obama's rightful Supreme Court pick - certainly some time in the future the Democrats, when they are in power, will return the favor to a Republican president. If the Democrats go all out to impeach a "fairly" elected president just "because", you can bet the Republicans will do the same when they have a chance. Partisanship can't get much worse than that (famous last words).
Much better for the Dems to run against Trump than Pence. Which is why this will never see the light of day.
Anyone who loves America and everything that our Constitutional Republic stands for wants to see trump not just ousted, but thoroughly humiliated and possibly imprisoned. His entire administration needs to suffer the same fate. There is not an honest or honorable person in the entire administration.
But as frustrating as every split second with him still in office is, Democrats need to view the long game. Channel the anger into the midterms. No majority in 2019 means the disaster continues and gets worse with every passing day.
Republicans are part of the problem, are co conspirators in trumprussia in some cases, and are all part of the obstruction of justice going on in congress. They have to be shoved into the minority for this nightmare to start to end. Even if Mueller indicts the traitors they remain in office, and there is no shaming someone like Putins manslave into resignation. It would require a conscience and more importantly a deep love of country and future generations living under our system of government to bring him to resign. He has neither
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Where can I send money to help this cause?
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There is a new political calculus and that is called the "Trump Multiplier" - I'm sure that Mr Steyer is well aware of the media's effects on his expenditures and the political realities of the current congressional configuration.
===> Steyer2020 is a distinct possibility <===
Bravo Tom Seteyer, keep fighting, we live in a total nightmare! Thank You!!!!
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Ds need to be careful.
They are good at trying things the Rs failed at and failing themselves.
To impeach you need some hope of success, or you have a failed impeachment, like the GOP failed Clinton effort.
Then what? You have a victorious Trump.
It takes 2/3s of the Senate to uphold an impeachment.
Before anything is attempted in this regard the Ds must win both houses of congress by 2/3s, and they must see the result of the Mueller probe.
Until then just keep your powder dry.
Since the ascension of Bill Clinton, the Democratic leadership has been too cozy with the monied interests and too timid in defense of their natural base, the working people of this nation. Bernie Sanders should have woken them up and rekindled their legitimate popularism, but instead, they are still afraid too risk the wrath of FOX News and the Tea Party reactionaries. Trump is an abomination, who handily lost the popular vote, is disloyal to to our national interests and who is doing his best to undermine our safety net and Democracy. The Democrats should start loudly calling for his ouster and then undoing the electoral manipulations that led to his 'victory'.
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It can't happen soon enough! I have been admiring Mr. Steyer's ads in the NYT for months - go for it!
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Why should they be? Here they have free advertising to do the PR they do not feel comfy doing. So, the Dem leaders should:
- Let Steyer say and do what he is saying.
- When asked, say that Steyer has many legit concerns that Dem leaders also share.
- Indicate that impeachment is not necessarily obtainable now, yet Dem leaders agree with the sentiment that chump should not be in office.
- Not disagree with his impeachment message while also offering to add to the message. For example, that income inequality, gifts to the super wealthy, pollution, excessive deregulation, incompetence, fraud, corruption, and racism are all issues where the Dems can do better.
Leverage Steyer, don't disagree with him. It's not difficult!
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Best comment I've read - pure common sense.
A democrat with a spine! what a novel idea.
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I strongly believe the Democrats need a lot more Steyer and a lot less Schumer. Ms. Pelosi must be reminded that impeachment is a "divisive" issue because it literally divides the patriots and the traitors; pick a side, Nancy.
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As I replied to another poster, impeachment is part of our democratic process. It's called out in our Constitution, Article II, Section IV.
The 45th POTUS has committed impeachable offenses, including violating the emoluments clause and sharing of secrets with Russians in the Oval Office.
I signed Tom Steyer's petition and proudly so. I'm glad he's doing this.
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Him and 300 million other Americans, and about 6 billion humans worldwide, if they count.
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You need to up your headline game, NYT. It doesn't sound to me like any Democrats are "rattled," period. He's not running for office, he's raising awareness that impeachment is appropriate (which it is, of course, pending the results of the Mueller investigation) and he's spending $90 million this year to back Democratic candidates. How ever can the Democratic party go on in the face of Steyer's huge contributions and continued efforts to mobilize the Democratic base?
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If impeachment and criminal prosecution did work, it would only leave the far more dangerous current veep Pence in a position to create his theocratic state.
So, Trump and Republicans can run riot, lie, accuse Democrats of murder for daring to fix our broken immigration system, but Democrats must not point out the proven and established facts about the most corrupt, treasonous administration in the history of the United States. Democrats, take a note: it is "politically incorrect" to talk about removing the Trump Crime Family from the head of our government.
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I am a Democrat. I am not rattled.
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Hey, the Koch’s bought Paul Ryan for $500k. Why shouldn’t the Democrats have some fun too?
Good for Steyer.
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I resent Steyer with all l my political being just as I resent the Koch brothers with all my political being. One man, one vote is a pathetic joke. These guys have a kabillion dollars and therefore are able to set political discourse? No wonder the empire is in decline. Your voice and my voice? Nothing but din on the sidelines.
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Take it up with the right wing Supreme Court, which has consistently put more and more political power in the hands of the wealthy. Yes it's appalling, but as long as right wing billionaires use their money to get political clout I'm happy to see the rare left wing billionaire do the same.
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Ralph: But nobody talks about the five little judicial weasels that made this all possible, Supreme Court Chief Justice, John Roberts, and his 'Roberts Five"(4) American traitors. They're politically motivated "Citizens United" decision sold our electoral system to the hugely wealthy, greedy, Fascist Elite. Transformed 'One Man-One Vote' into 'One Dollar-One Vote' to Fascists with multi-billions of those 'One-Dollars' and Trump giving them billions more with his "Tax Reform" fraud. A number of other politically motivated decisions by these traitors, like the repeal of the Voting Rights Act, because " - - there is no longer the existence of political discrimination in these United States - - ", just paved the pathway to the political swamp our nation is in today. We are in desperate need of a major political and social reformation and maybe, just maybe, the gargantuan 'Womens Marches' are the beginning. Try to keep the faith!
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Totally agree.
Good! At least one person with means has the gumption and simple grasp on realty ( that which is ), to make this clear in people’s minds. This guy simply has to go and it’s time for all people of good heart and sound mind, to say enough of this sordid mess and destructive disaster. Denial is now not an option anymore.
It will also make it easier for Ms. Trump to divorce and leave the ‘Donald’ in the coming days, when she finally accepts that she has her own life and reality outside of her tragic and lonely bedroom in the White House. She must protect the children as well as her own soul from certain destruction.
It will be better for everyone at that juncture in time. So in the meantime we all wait till and for this ‘Accidental President’ to resign and to move back to his tower in NYC.
Bring it on.
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Oh no, not now, try to get the seats back first in 2018.
Sometimes Democrats are their worse enemy making Al Franken the twice elected and a vocal Senator to quit, what purpose did it serve now ?
Although I welcome Mt. Steyer`s efforts, trump is a liar, a corrupt self serving President we ever got but still it is better not to rush.
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California's billionaires should just stick to building racing yachts. That way most of us then don't have to bothered by their blatant ostentatious excess, just the poor seagulls scurrying to get out of the way.
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Yes, far better we be ruled by "Midwestern" and Texan billionaires who secretly reside on the coasts and undermine the entire system of government at every opportunity befouling the air and entrenching neo-feudalism.
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Oh how pathetic our Democracy seems to be when we need billionaires to do battle for us on Mt. Olympus. That our two party system is owned by the 1%
, who seldom have any real empathy for the bottom rung other than playing good cop, bad cop with the lives of the most vulnerable in this rapidly changing
economic landscape, reinforces this "lottery" style of representative government.
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We elected one. (or so he says he is).
Proving money does not make common sense.
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This is a strong argument for higher tax rates for upper-income brackets. This guy has too much money.
What was that Robin Williams quote? something like "cocaine is God's way of telling you you are making too much money.” Well, running pointless ads and spending money on quixotic efforts might be a similar case.
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As a life long democrat I welcome Tom Steyer's efforts to impeach Trump. The democratic party needs a strong voice and a fighter. We need someone who will throw down the hammer. We need a channel for our anger at watching the GOP unravel our democracy, tear apart our social safety net, and undermine our economy. I say, "Go for it. Tom! We're behind you!"
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Mr. Steyer is shaping the conversation, introducing as quite reasonable the otherwise upsetting notion of impeachment. The discourse community that is forming will likely become activist if the Muller investigation pulls aside the Wizard's curtain once and for all.
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Why in the name of all that is smart and right would Democrats in DC try to stop Steyer from making his case?
Trump collaborated with Russia to get elected and interfere in our election processes. He has likely obstructed justice. He is a serial abuser of women and he has a long history of defrauding people in his business ties. He may have connections to the mob. He has discriminated against people of color throughout his adult life.
If ever there was a President worthy of impeachment, it is Trump. Why wouldn't Steyer point this out? Why wouldn't Democrats listen, unless they want to keep playing the pointless "go along, get along" game that has put them in a minority the likes of which they have not experienced in a century?
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The biggest problem with the impeachment drive is that it plays into Trump's hand, making everything about him. In that battle of style (or the lack thereof) and personality, Trump excels. As well, it takes the focus off the 2018 Congressional races which, in any case, will determine whether there is a House willing to impeach.
Secondly, impeachment should not be reduced to a replay by Congress of the previous Presidential election. If it were, President Obama would have been impeached and possibly convicted.
Third, be careful what you wish for: Pence would be worse. After Trump, he would fly under the radar, less overtly offensive, meanwhile answering only to the God who whispers in his ear, a more dangerous scenario than a non-ideological, narcissistic wimp. In addition, many people awakened by Trump would go back to sleep, ignoring that in the long run the good fight is about policies, not personalities.
Yes, these are times when we need to fight fire with fire, worrying less about "sinking to their level". However, as with any fire, in order to gain control you have to chill the base where it's burning, while removing combustible material, not allowing oneself to be mesmerized by the flame.
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Steyer had me at “impeach” until I read Steve’s comment. Well stated.
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Thanks, Max. Someone, such as yourself, who takes the trouble to engage in the discussion by replying, even if disagreeing with what I write, is worth more than all the Recommends possible.
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And all this time i thought it was Democracy by the people and for the people.
I hope this man goes bankrupt trying.
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Then you haven't been paying attention to how the right wing Supreme Court has been doing everything it can to put political power in the hands of the wealthy.
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Bravo for Tom Steyer. I am sure he does frighten establishment Democrats - a pathetically timid group always afraid of offending someone. All one has to do is see the mess which Schumer made of "negotiating" with the Republicans over the government closure to see how weak the Democrats are. I could probably vote for someone such as Steyer, unlike the "mushy middle" such as Clinton, Kaine, and Schumer.
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This is what we get for enabling the rich to run our political systems, on both sides - Principled stands by individuals instead of by consensus. The latter employs the resources of the crowd. The former is limited to the imagination of a single individual.
The resources of the crowd will always outperform individuals. Our founders understood exactly that, which is why they revolted against a King. Are we really ready to go back on those ideals?
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If billionaires can support trump, other billionaires can work to remove him, if that is best for the country. Tom Steyers opinion & efforts would be supported by many, many millions of Americans. By now, even Republicans must see the value of this.
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Maybe it would be better to just have a billionaire Hunger Games.
Mr. Steyer hasn't jumped ahead, he's in the vanguard of the movement to remove the threat of an unfit president to our country. Who's abetting pernicious Trumpism? Democrats who refuse to address the palpable problem, or the people marching for the common sense solution of firing an unfit employee?
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Mr. Steyer would make much better use of his money if he were to invest it in challenging and opposing gerrymandering, supporting a free press and donating to the Democratic Party. This crusade of his means very little in the big picture. I can't help but wonder if this is some sort of ego trip, or vanity showcase, for Mr. Steyer.
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I'm amazed how many people seem to think it's their job to advise Steyer how he should spend his money. The Democrats need to do a lot of things - not just one. Keeping Trump's impeachable behavior in the public discussion is one of them, even if it doesn't resonate with everyone.
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Democrats are seeking a new way of winning elections, by overturning the last one using the impeachment process. If they do that, they will blow this country's democracy apart worse than Trump ever could. And I will never vote Democrat again.
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Impeaching Trump doesn't "overturn the election" it gets you Pence not Clinton.
Is it possible, even a tiny little bit, that the Democrats - who have lived with Republican governments before - are not out to "overturn the election" but feel they have real concerns about Trump's actions as President where impeachment would be called for? They could be wrong of course, but that doesn't mean their motive is to overturn the election but to remove a danger who they believe has subverted our laws.
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While Mr. Steyer is well within his rights to do what he likes with his money, this is obviously a terrible idea. An impeachment effort by a hedge fund billionaire is just what President Trump would like. The swamp is getting back at me, see?
Overall the leadership vacuum among the Dems is really hurting them. If some people at the grass roots are rooting for Oprah Winfrey, it goes to show how bare the cupboard is. Perhaps they should think out of the box and give someone like giant-killer Doug Jones a chance. Notice he kept his nose clean during the shutdown fiasco and voted for the spending bill.
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Steyer's impeachment effort has been going on for a while. I see no evidence that Trump "likes" it, or that it has benefitted Trump in any way.
Finally, a democrat with guts. Thank you, Mr. Steyer, I support you and your efforts.
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The Constitution is under attack and the National Democrats are wishy washy on getting trump out of office? I want a list of name for the people in the National Democrats. Perhaps it is time to vote them out, or start asking questions as to what they are doing. This is the citizens Country, not a group of people. Whatever excuses they come up with are going to be shot down. We are not putting up with the treason from the republicans, what makes them think they can sit behind the scenes deciding what the people want? Our Country is standing low in the world because of Trump. If we do not impeach him, we will be seen as a weak Country. We do not need people leading this Country who are not looking out for all the citizens and their needs.
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Rock on Streyer. Waiting for Mueller is exactly the WRONG strategy. What happens if there's nothing there on Russia? What if obstruction is in the eyes of the beholder?
The reason to impeach Trump is that he is an existential threat to American Democracy, let alone to all people of the world. This man is dangerous and does not belong in office.
Stop trying to normalize him. Forget what you think you know about "the way things are supposed to work." He sure has.
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Ah, the liberal equivalent of the Koch brothers! Let the games begin. Do not forget that the Republicans have to contend with the impeachment issue too. I feel very good about November.
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Anything can happen in this country. As we have daily proof. If Trump can get elected, then Tom Steyer (whoever he is) can take him down. Seems to be about money.
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I'm forced to agree with the people who point out that if you impeach Trump, you will get Pence, followed by Ryan. Unless you can overturn the entire election and either do another election or install Hillary Clinton, which will bring out people with guns I'm afraid, then all this talk about impeachment, while it might be emotionally satisfying, leads to nothing good. Get people out to vote. Donate to campaigns. Make phone calls. That's the way to get rid of him.
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I find the complete lack of concern for democratic process, by the Democrats very troubling. The party has been taken over by an "ends justify the means" mentality that doesn't bode well.
The president won an election in which all of the odds were stacked against him. He won with less money (I thought you hated money in politics,) the rejection of the establishment, and the calumny of the majority of the media.
He won because he reached out to average Americans and addressed their real and legitimate concerns. If Democrats were what they purport to be, that is supportive of the power of the people, instead of what they actually are - which is totalitarian in the same vein that all other leftist groups have historically proven to be - it wouldn't even be necessary to explain this.
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He “won” because Republicans suppressed enough votes to steal the election. He spent less money because he received billions of dollars worth of free airtime from the corporate media. His Republican primary rivals were all complaining about it.
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I trust Mueller is looking into the Trump/Pence/Putin conspiracy of Treason.
If they nail Trump, does anyone think his sidekick zealot is innocent?
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Democrats are so afraid of provoking a tribal 'take no prisoners' response from the other side that they go completely spineless. 'Leadership' is advocating for something you believe rather than saying what you guess an audience already believes.
Steyer would not be so scary if he was part of a chorus of many advocates for various different liberal positions. We need more voices like his.
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Impeachment is a political process that occurs in Congress and before that can happen the political makeup of Congress has to be dramatically changed. And we can start that change this year. Be sure you vote this November!
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Note to Democrats from an unenrolled liberal: I was not in favor of the government shutdown because that doesn't hurt anyone in DC as much as it hurts people and their families. I am absolutely in favor of impeachment for Trump. It may not succeed, but it would demonstrate the Democrats actually stand for something that doesn't involve using people as pawns in a political chess match.
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Mr. Steyer, use your money to find and promote well qualified
Democrats to run for office. We must make the Democratic
Party fabulous and attractive for voters.
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Yeah, it’s impractical. But I signed because the only way to get the attention of the Democratic leaders who used to represent me to listen is to bludgeon them with a move like this.
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Beware of squillionaires with bright ideas. If Steyer wants to blow the country apart, this is an excellent way to do it.
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Just imagine. The next time a Democrat is elected President (yes, it will happen), the Koch brothers will try to use their wealth to get the Democratic President impeached. Do you really think the political world makes fine distinctions when it comes to democratically elected Presidents? Democrats like Steyer will only make life much more difficult for the next Democratic President. The nation really does not need this garbage.
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They will do it anyway. Do you really think Republican attitudes and strategy would be moderated if Steyer didn’t exist? Opposing everything Obama did, withholding a vote on his Supreme Court nomination and vowing to make him a one term president was impeachment Republican style and Steyer had nothing to do with it. Do you think there were any republicans who said, “That’s too outrageous. We shouldn’t do that. It will alienate voters?” Democrats have so little confidence in their message that they think they need to get republicans to approve of them. They were asleep at the switch while republicans took over many statehouse and gerrymandered their way into control of the house. Where was the Democratic Kris Kobach? There is not one person whose vote is going to go against Democrats in 2018 or 2020 because of anything Steyer is doing. Just Sean Hannity whining to the Republican base. Meanwhile republicans will continue their snatch and grab approach to governance. Better Tom Steyer says what should happen even if it can’t right now than that he remain silent. Churchill was regarded as just as much a chicken little in the 1930’s as Steyer is now when he advocated for rearmament and preparedness. He was ignored. Britain was caught flat-footed and eventually turned to him to lead them out of near destruction. Maybe more people should be listening to Steyer instead of acting like the Emily Posts of political etiquette.
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They will do that anyway. There is clear evidence of impeachable offenses and Trump should be impeached.
Thank you Tom Steyer!
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Steyer has got his finger on the pulse, and not just about impeaching Trump. Working to rid Congress of the saboteurs of the constitution who are giving Trump crucial support may be even more important than his campaign for impeachment. Here's a list of congressmen (the latter three, all Californian) who deserve to be targeted for the 2018 mid-terms: Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Devin Nunes and Putin's old chum, Dana Rohrabacher. Impeachment is a great idea. But voting out Trump's enablers may be essential for it to succeed. Go get 'em, Tom!
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Trump is a person of limited intellect but the one thing he did learn from his career as a huckster in multiple venues is that - by definition - provocation distinguishes you from the pack. That's how he got the nomination. That's how he won the election.
Parenthetically - that's also how Sanders rose from zero to the status of a serious challenger and how Clinton lost the election. She and Bill carried a lot of baggage and the inspiration that motivates was gone.
Social conditions are ripe for provocation; both from the right and the left. People are worried, scared, and moved less by reason and more their immediate emotional response to perceived threats. That's a dangerous mix. Bipartisanship is a dead duck.
Sections of the Democratic Party that think they can find a path to majority rule through being "reasonable" are playing a game of simple and erroneous calculation. The "new math" is that every voter energized by the extreme is worth two of every voter motivated to show up at the polls out of conventional, enlightened civic duty.
Has Trump played this too far? In the longer term, perhaps. But it gave him the office and he has certainly proven himself capable of wreaking significant damage while he still holds it. And for those that live in the moment - that's what counts.
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While impeachment is the shiny object for the media, don't discount what Mr. Steyer is accomplishing in his efforts. Chuck and Nancy continue to mumble their message. Tom Steyer presents Trump's shortcomings logically and succinctly and is building an enormous voter base. His message resonates while we struggle to discern just what the establishment Democrats are willing to stand for. To wit, their weak performance this past weekend.
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I wish he would put that kind of money to practical immediate use. A lot of Democratic voters in red states need financial help to overcome all the new GOP voting restrictions or to get a ride to the polls as polling places close in Democratic areas.
Obtaining a new copy of a lost birth certificate or marriage certificate from another state in order to vote can cost as much as $125. For a minimum wage worker, that is a sizable sum. Taking time off work to get a bus to a DMV in another area because the DMVs have been closed in Democratic areas costs lost wages and potential to be fired.
Everybody should have equal access to vote. $30 million could provide that in 2018.
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God bless Tom Steyer. Every day Trump spews out hatred. We the people have not been abused like this in the history of our country. There are other historical examples of citizens given such a continual poisoned discourse and it did not end well. But please no more for "the last best hope of mankind."
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Yes, god bless a man who is using his wealth to influence a nation.
If it was the other way around, how would you feel?
Hypocrite.
"If it was the other way around" ? - uh...ok...uh..bless a nation using its wealth to influence a man? - (you lost me at yes) but okay, okay, I guess that's hypocritical if you ignore the fact that its nonsense and full of anger. Peace, dude.
Within a week of Citizens United, I was in conversation with friends when one from (what you might say) the "other side" of the aisle, said that it was gloves off for the rightwing and that the oligarchs will now run rampant and act in lockstep for good or ill. I agreed (with distain) and said the problem will be from where will our mega-rich champions regarding the leftwing come from to counter the oncoming onslaught, this newly SCOTUS minted Clash of the Titans.
We knew where the rightwing $ would obviously come from. However, is this all WE have? Where are our Champions? There must be more! Is this the only one? If so, then we all need to understand this and we must each $100 (or as much as we can) this entire process by the 10's of millions of voters. We must become a monolith in unification just like them.
This is the battleground, this is where the fighting is, like it or not. If we are going to abridge and eventually remove this kind of power structure from our system of government we must begin a tsunami of well financed and sustained voting for the next 4 years and beyond to save this democratic republic of the people, by the people and for the people.
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It seems that rather than a probably lengthy impeachment process that would not get the votes required from the GOP Sheep in Congress, it would be more appropriate ti invoke the 25th Amendment due to the President's unfitness for office.
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As the shutdown demonstrated, the Dems are lacking conviction and courage. The old guard has lost the fight and now needs to step aside for bold action from new leadership.
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These are two separate issues with distinct solutions: republican policies and trumps fitness for office. Even if Trump suddenly could be molded to support the democrat party platform, he would still be unfit and the nation would suffer.
Surely the democrat party leadership can walk and chew gum at the same time in 2018?
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Special Counsel Robert Mueller is going to find something big and then the natural progression will be to impeach the so-called President Trump. Republicans will deny that they had anything to do with Herr Trump. In addition Trump has insulted the FBI and I'll bet that there are agents in cubicles pouring over Trump's documented checkered history and financial data to find something criminally indictable. Tom Steyer is a very smart man, but at this point in time it appears he should remain quiet, since there will be a impeachable offense hopefully coming Trump's way.
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Impeachment is merely a rally cry to progressive voters much like "build the wall" was a rally cry to low-info voters. That's all we need it for -- to get people off their collective butts and vote. It'll be a lot harder for electronic manipulation of votes if there is an overwhelming turnout against Trump and the Republicans.
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Good for Steyer. The Democrats are timid corporatists, and have not yet figured out that Trump is no ordinary President. You defeat evil by fighting it.
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This is still America where any voice no matter how strident and/or opposed has a right to be heard. The fact Mr Steyer is taking advantage of his own "big money" is his right. The Supreme Court opened the doors to this sort of influence and just as no one had to vote for Mr Trump no one has to agree with Mr Steyer's opinion. If the public is so malleable and chooses to be informed by propaganda from either side of the spectrum we are in trouble, very, very, deep trouble.
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Steyer is case in point that being able to make money doesn't make you smarter or superior in any way. It just means your mistakes can be that much more expensive. I don't know why he thinks we need another overly-opinionated billionaire throwing his weight around the already hyper-partisan political forum.
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To Pelosi, Schumer, Sanders, and Tauscher: lead or get out of the way.
Tom Steyer has not jumped the gun. He is ensuring that should we take back Congress, the women and men sitting in those chambers will not be afraid to actually take action and govern (unlike you.)
Cheers for him.
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I'm a democrat and I'm not in the least but upset that Steyer is pushing, loudly and energetically, for impeachment. I'm thrilled. It's just unfortunate that in order for someone to take a courageous stance, he or she has to be a billionaire. Too bad our elected officials and the party apparatus don't have the courage.
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Please, America! Listen to Steyer's words and heed them. It is hard to believe that God-fearing citizens who care about a decent future for their children don't yet see that Trump's only goal is to enrich himself at the expense of our democratic values and turn the United States into a nation of white supremacists.
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Whether or not Mr. Steyer is successful in pressing for impeachment - and I happen to hope that he is - I have a feeling that a lot of Democrats are going to look back on his efforts and realize he was right.
I wonder how many Democratic leaders in Congress realize how out of touch with their own voters they are? Among my friends, the prevailing thought is that Trump has to go, he's a danger to our country, and that Democratic leaders in Congress actually consider his presidency an advantage, because while he's unpredictable, he's also just malleable enough to work to their advantage. They may all get a surprise when they learn that they do not speak for many registered Democrats, who hate Donald Trump with a passion and consider him an autocrat who has to go.
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Every other civilized country has limits on the electoral process: limits on funding, contribution amounts, the election period and other rules that curb the impact of money. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, it is a fundamental flaw in the US process that has needed correction for decades. It now allows a plutocracy to control the government and Exhibit One is the recent tax law. When 82% of the wealth goes to the top 1 percent the system needs to be fixed or danger is in the future.
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If it encourages people to think about the mid-terms, and motivates them to cast their ballot, then that's a good thing.
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Frankly, I am not convinced that trump is the problem here. He clearly and repeatedly demonstrated his lack of fitness for any elected office during the primaries and general election, yet here he is in the White House.
No, trump is only the hideous face of the real problem: the 40% of the population who view the world through FOX-colored glasses. They happen to be majorities in 2/3 of the states and thus wield unwarranted power in our government.
Does anyone really believe that trump is actually running anything? He tweets; he appears in public, agreeing to whatever someone suggests, then returns to the White House to be told by Kelly or Miller that what he agreed to isn't what he wants. Obviously his terrible cabinet and judiciary appointments are people suggested by those around him, no doubt including Pence. trump has no clue who these people are.
There won't be an impeachment, unless he is found undeniably guilty of major crimes. And Pence would be no better. We are stuck for another 3 years.
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This effort by Steyer is not only troubling, but also a microcosm of what ails our highly partisan and gridlocked political system. Trump is an embarrassment, a cad, a narcissist and megalomaniac of the first order, but none of those are impeachable offenses. The Democrats hate him and are appalled that they lost to him and I get it, but a healthy democratic system does not allow you to simply impeach someone because you hate him/her and you lost. That is what banana republics do and it is called a coup.
Steyer's efforts set a dangerous precedent. Let the investigations play out. If they uncover a verifiable and impeachable offense then act, but otherwise you need to accept the 2016 election for what it was, learn from it, come up with an attractive alternative that appeals to the American electorate and defeat him at the ballot box.
I fear that we have reached our nadir. The tail is wagging the dog at both ends of the political spectrum, creating an atmosphere that is not conducive to our collective health.
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The Democrats should wait for the Mueller report to see if there are grounds for impeachment. Impeaching the President merely on policy grounds and the distastefulness of his racist, xenophobic attitudes is not enough to justify impeachment and trial. He needs to have committed a major crime for that to happen.
If Mueller finds that Trump did collude with the Russians, then that is a violation of U.S. law that borders on treason. In that case, it will be justified to go after Trump. But, not until.
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– "if the president had any aptitude for leadership."
– " ...the White House is occupied by a man with no evident principles beyond promoting his own brand and chalking up “wins,”
–"... his instincts are clearly autocratic."
These are just three quotes pulled at random from todays NY Times. Given enough search time, I could easily pull dozens (hundreds?) from legitimate news sources just today.
Given that, isn't it clear that Tom Steyer and his message are on point? Do I think impeachment will happen? No I don't. Do I like the impeachment "hammer" hanging over both parties? Yes, I think I do. If Tom Steyer is a headache - then perhaps both aisles of Congress should take some adult aspiring (not the children's chewable kind either) to deal with the problem.
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This is why the democrats lose.
Trump is a jerk, but he has not committed an impeachable offense.
Why not go after him on the issues... like deporting a 45 y.o father of 2 who has been in this country for 30 years.
Like appointing very conservative judges.
If democrats go far left, then middle of the road folks like me will vote Republican.
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Perhaps people are misinterpreting Steyer’s intent. He’s bright and has hung around politicians. He knows full well that impeachment is not the result of signing a petition. He knows congress today would not do it. Yet, he is raising awareness about resisting Trump , not because he’s a Republican, wants a wall or is an embarrassment. It’s because he’s a crook that we should get him out.
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I think Donald Trump is a fascist but not well read enough to realize he is one.
He has proven himself to be very dangerous. America will be fortunate if he only steals money and not the country.
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If Pres. Trump is to be impeached, Mr. Meuller will find the grounds for this, not a media campaign. It owuld be better to spend this $30M on helping Americans start businesses.
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Think about this. According to a new Oxfam report, 82% of the wealth generated in 2017 went to the Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Barons.
These are the Con Don's brethren. To name a few, Carl Icahn. Wilbur Ross. The Goldman Sachs boys. Peter Theil and his daughter. Sheldon Adelson. Rupert Murdoch. Putin. Assad. Erdogan. The worst of the worst human beings on the planet. The most demented, insatiably greedy, socially unconscious human beings to inhabit the world since Atilla the Hun.
These crooks think they are "masters of the universe". They work like the mafia. The stock market is climbing because they and their international brethren are making it happen. They can just as easily crash the global economy because they control it all.
That may be what Nancy Pelosi and other democrats are worried about. Nothing is too far-fetched in the current political world. Nothing.
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If all of you that spent, what, seven years thinking that Hillz was the anointed one had faced reality that she was, frankly, a terrible candidate, you wouldn't be having this problem.
Almost ~anyone~ on earth could have beaten Trump. Smilin' Joe Biden would have crushed Trump.
But no, instead of realizing what a terribly flawed candidate she was and is (whatever you may think of her personally or politically) you supported her anyway. Hillary famously said, "Now having said all this, 'Why aren't I fifty points ahead,' you might ask." Because she was a terrible candidate. She was so bad that the most hated man in America won.
Had she been, like Joe Biden would have been, 50 points ahead, none of this would have mattered.
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The biggest problem with the impeachment drive is that it plays into Trump's hand, making everything about him. In that battle of style (or the lack thereof) and personality, Trump excels. As well, it takes the focus off the 2018 Congressional races which, in any case, will determine whether there is a House willing to impeach.
Secondly, impeachment should not be reduced to a replay by Congress of the previous Presidential election. If it were, President Obama would have been impeached and possibly convicted.
Third, be careful what you wish for: Pence would be worse. After Trump, he would fly under the radar, less overtly offensive, meanwhile answering only to the God who whispers in his ear, a more dangerous scenario than a non-ideological, narcissistic wimp. In addition, many people awakened by Trump would go back to sleep, ignoring that in the long run the good fight is about policies, not personalities.
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Tom Steyer spent millions of his own money on crucial Black GOTV efforts in the AL election. The Dem leaders did not but were quick to claim the victory, as if they had anything to do with electing the first Democratic Senator in a long time from AL. The victories in VA also had far less to do with our Dem leaders and far more to do with a fired up grassroots led by the awesome rising up of women. Now we have the recent actions from Shummer who believes the Republicans will do the right thing for Dreamers. I think it's perfectly fine to have a center left Party; however I am not a center left kind of guy. I want a progressive Party which can caucus with the moderates but which has a warrior's heart and which goes to battle, even if it means losing, when it matters! The meme is Steyer is a narcissistic one percenter; however he certainly is actively supporting the rising up of the grassroots unlike our Dem leaders like Shummer who'd rather continue along their path of moderate engagement.
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Dems always going for the Hail Mary instead of the screen play. They need to start focusing on small successes and achievable goals. The pie in the sky stuff aka Russian-collusion, impeach-Trump stuff just makes them look ineffective. Now, come on Dems, go get a first down.
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This is not football - and you're not limited to choosing one play to win the game. The Dems can and should move on multiple fronts. Public opinion rarely changes rapidly - it takes time and persistence. As long as there is a credible case to be made for impeachment it should be part of the discussion.
I don't know about all this analysis, but there is something quite comforting about these ads. They make me feel better every time I see one. It reassures me that I'm not the only one sitting out here dismayed, disgusted and dejected by the state of our presidency. Thank you Tom! Also...run for something, President maybe!
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The republicans have the Koch brothers and many other billionaires to help them out. I'm glad the democrats have a few on their side too.
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The danger here is that unless there is a specific charge against him that every time someone is elected president and some rich guy does not like him, then they will use their money to demand impeachment. This mentality undermines democracy. Organize against not just Trump but the other Republicans that enable him.
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Tom Steyer - a dreamer of a delusional?
What's his game - impeach Trump of preparation for the run in 2020?
Logic tells us that until Democrats get the Congress back Impeachment is no different from a miracle.
So, putting pressure on Trump until he gets nervous breakdown?
Also problematic - his aid shields him good.
I wish Mr. Steyer would offer some long term political or social goals. And if such goals exist, he may stat thinking about leaving the Democrats alone and building his own organization.
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This is just lazy and misguided, almost as bad as chanting "Lock her up." To impeach Trump, you first need to drastically flip Congress this November. We already know campaigning on "Impeach Trump" does not work. Hillary Clinton and the entire GOP field tried it in 2016.
Tom: If you want to fire up the base AND attract new voters, then run ads on issues you are right on like raising taxes on the rich and overturning Citizens United.
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I don't consider myself to be much of a political analyst, but I have just two words to those who seek to impeach Trump (leave him alone as he is doing a fine job imploding): Mike Pence . . .
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I am behind you, brother. But it has be done over issues of criminality that are plain to everyone, even his pathetic "base", and he has to spend time in the slammer, as well as everyone else who is complicit in his crimes. If you have so much money, why not offer people in rural areas an alternative to the propaganda hate radio? Bring back the Fairness Doctrine? Make efforts to stop making prejudice and hate entertaining? Educate and support young Democratic leaders? There is so much that the Democrats could start doing to show that their's is the only agenda for Truth and Fairness.
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Good for him. Just because the odds of impeachment are not favorable, it is refreshing and morally uplifting to see him stand up for what is right. High ideals, honesty, striving to make a difference within our means and ability, must always be the starting place. Practicality and logistics will follow.
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Given such a destructive and grossly incompetent president Mr. Steyer is doing a public service by placing impeachment in the national conversation, although more work needs to be done to expose whatever criminal financial activity or obstruction of justice may exist to provide a solid legal basis for this. With due regard for the impossibility of impeachment given Republican control of Congress, it is a point worth discussion.
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It is bizzare to me how many people 'see no grounds' or consider 'impractical' a call for impeachment.
I consider myself a moderate democrat, but applaud Mr. Steyer's efforts to keep to incompetence and malfeasance of this administration and its ersatz 'leader' front and center in the public's attention.
Every day it becomes more and more obvious that this is a criminal administration and, in sum total, far worse than what happened in the Nixon years.
Shame on the GOP -- the party of cowards (with the notable exception of Jeff Flake).
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In a fight, there are times when leadership freezes, unsure of what to do. The answer may be obvious to the war weary platoon that they have to move and move now, but the chain of command doesn't allow that, so they sit and begin dying. Its only when someone steps forward and takes command that the platoon can get up and do what needs to be done. The old Democrat order is frozen and dysfunctional. Time for someone to step up. Maybe this is the guy.
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It's impractical to defend the Constitution? That's sad. I get that the dems think they will pick up more votes in November if they don't appear to just be out for a scalp... but come on. How many felonies does the White House have to commit before him unfit and throw him out? It's not like we are talking parking tickets, or things that happened 20 years ago and have no bearing on today. If he has laundered tens of millions for Russians, it doesn't matter how long ago, they can still manipulate him with the money, the debt he owes, the promise of more money, and the revealing his crimes.
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Unlike the DACA/shutdown fiasco, this should be a no-brainer for Democrats. What Democrat believes Trump is for for office? Nothing "far-left" about this one.
The new billionaire class promises a new kind of tyranny. If the left finds the Koch brothers repugnant, I suspect the right and also many moderates will find Mr. Steyer’s self regard despicable.
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I've seen Mr. Steyer's messages and have no problems with them. Given the constant barrage of Republican lies and propaganda spewing from interviewees on mainstream media and Fox playing in every public and private business, it is refreshing to see Steyer sharing the facts on television.
Mr. Steyer is waking up the public as well as Democrats and that's a good thing.
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Since the NYT lacked sufficient cyberspace to tell us what the ad actually says, here is the text:
In violation of the Constitution, President Trump has taken money from foreign governments, obstructed justice at the FBI, threatened to shut down news organizations for reporting the truth, and brought us to the brink of nuclear war.
If that isn’t a case for impeaching and removing a dangerous president, I don’t know what is.
Tell your member of Congress that it’s time to stop doing what’s political and time to start doing what’s right.
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Plus there’s room to add your own words. First. As I recall.
We need a many-pronged attack on the ‘resident’. Let it be!
Norway went back on their $14 mil donation to the Clinton Foundation after she lost power. Isn't that an intention to take money from a foreign government?
Steyer is one of those out touch billionaires responsible for Trump's presidency. A few years ago, the AARP interviewed Bob Dylan about poverty in the U.S.
Bob Dylan whom I think is a poet, said he didn't understand why billionaires like Steyer were donating their billions abroad while it was easier and more necessary for them to do so through investment in poor communities throughout the United States. He said those billionaires ignore the needs of their own country, the very country that enabled them to be so wealthy.
Steyer should invest those millions in communities they would do more good. He could spend those millions by building factories in deprived areas of Appalachia. He won't Instead, he sits in his luxurious office in San Francisco. Wasting his money and dismissing the reason our racist president was elected. Shame. I hope the dems stay far away from men like this guy. He is out of touch, a counterfeit.
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If one accepts the premise that the GOP is good for billionaires, Steyer is acting in his own self interest. The more he carries on about impeachment, the better for the GOP and its ongoing control of the Presidency, the Senate, the House and most State governments. Go Tom.
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I don't understand why the Democrats are afraid of these trump supporters? These supporters are so out of the realm of reality and are at Max 40% of the GOP. They would never vote for a Democrat or any Republican that doesn't think Trump is God. The GOP Moderates have the most to lose I'm guessing as the people can see the party is split. There is no split in the Democratic Party that I know of. Steyer has millions of signatures on his Impeachment Petition . Also the thousands of people that protest Trump & his Minions regularly. The main issue is that the Democrats are not talking about their policies just being "Anti-Trump" I would like to see the Dems push that they are the party of the people/enviroment & have the American People's back. It is useless to even consider the trump supporters at all. The number of the petition signatures, constant protests against trump, the fact that the GOP cannot govern,and start stressing their platform, good candidates, etc., etc., the Democrats should win seats and then GOVERN. Bring back the US standing in the world, overturn trump's detrimental EO's and get back to working on the People's business.
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Mr Steyer would better spend his money getting voters registered and then to the polls in 2018. Maybe he his rich enough to pursue both impeachment and voter turn out? Perhaps the impeachment push will enhance turn out in 2018.
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Democrats have become completely unhinged. Do they even believe in our system of government anymore? What Steyer wants is a coup.
He got rich on Coal, but is now an environmentalist cheerleader so he can get rich on Solar. Perhaps Trump's 30% tariff was directed at him? All he wants to do is manipulate politics to make himself richer.
In other words, he's a perfect Democrat.
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Your take on things makes you a republican.
When people, who the majority don't vote for, are appointed to office, "That" is the coup.
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Even though the thought of having this President impeached asap is very enticing, I agree that it could hurt the Democrats in the long run. Mr. Steyer is better off putting all his efforts to become a driving force for the November elections so that Democrats can retake both chambers of Congress. In the meantime, let Mr. Mueller do his job, let the media raise any flags of wrong doing from the administration and the GOP to prevent the investigations and most important let's keep the Resistance going to the polls in 10 months!
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More than impeaching Trump, democrats and their financial backers need to focus on long term priorities:
(1) Turn public sentiment against house and senate republicans that have supported Trump with their blindfolds on.
(2) Turn toss-up states -PA, WI, FL, NC, MI, OH - blue for 2020.
(3) When democrats have won enough seats in congress and senate to establish the majority, focus on permanent changes. They include removing or diluting the Electoral College, neutralize the republican redistricting and push for nationwide standard election laws.
How are we *not* talking about impeachment. The president refused to divest himself from his corporations and is using his position for personal gain, he is under investigation for colluding with Russia to sway our election process, he derides our law enforcement agencies in an attempt to gain more power, he risks embroiling us in unnecessary conflicts with his juvenile tweeting. I could go on and on.
At the very least, we should be at the starting phases of the impeachment process, but the political stalemate prevents us from doing so. A gerrymandered Congress, peopled with shills for the donor class, will not consider doing what's right for the country as long as they're in position to impose legislation that serves their wealthy benefactors. I should hope that if the midterms turn out to be the bloodbath for the Republicans that have been predicted to be, that the Democrats grow a spine and take this president to task for his corruption, kleptocracy, and gross violations of democratic principles.
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The biggest problem with the impeachment drive is that it plays into Trump's hand, making everything about him. In that battle of style (or the lack thereof) and personality, Trump excels.
Secondly, impeachment should not be reduced to a replay by Congress of the previous Presidential election. If it were, President Obama would have been impeached and likely convicted.
Third, be careful what you wish for: Pence would be worse. After Trump, he would fly under the radar, less overtly offensive, meanwhile answering only to the God who whispers in his ear, a more dangerous scenario than a non-ideological, narcissistic wimp.
Fourth, many people awakened by Trump would go back to sleep, ignoring that in the long run the good fight ia about policies, not personalities.
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So the Dems think they have done such a great job dealing with Trump?
Thank you citizen Steyer for being out there every day, speaking the Truth, and putting your personal money where your mouth is.
While our mealy mouse, Democratic, so-called "Leaders" just put their hand out for donations for their campaign coffers.
This crisis should be seen as an opportunity for a paradigm shift. Fundamentally, the problem is the monopoly of power by the "two" party system.
The Trump abuse of power would be almost impossible in a parliamentary system. A three or four viable political parties is long overdue. In a parliamentary system, a vote of no confidence would force a new election.
The problem with impeachment is, even if it succeeds, it just means exchanging Trump with Pence. Is that an improvement? I honestly doubt it.
The lesson from the 2016 election is the hunger of the American people for an alternative to the established and entrenched two party system. The unprecedented success of Bernie Sanders was basically an expression of this sentiment.
The only cure for 2 parties is a Parliamentary System!
Presidential systems inexorably lead to 2 very disparate parties. And the demise of the system or the country.
The Democrat play book for change is simple.
Make every effort possible to win seats and gain control of the House and Senate in November 2018. (This is more than doable.) This will limit the damage Trump can do if he lasts four years.
Let Mueller continue to use his vast array of resources to uncover obstruction, conspiracy, criminality, etc.
If Mueller can't bring down the hammer, it's an all hands on deck bring out the vote in 2020.
Select a viable ticket in 2020.
I applaud Mr. Steyer's passion and action. If Mueller doesn't his score big, impeachment is not possible.
Last, but not least:
Let Trump continue to implode....the self-inflicted wounds provide an endless source of ammunition.
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I applaud Tom Steyer. Trump’s isn’t the only “base” that his behavior and despicable tweets provoke. Extremism in the face of liberty is no vice. Even if talk of impeached is premature (shouldn’t we see what happens In the 2018 elections; await Mueller’s findings; see what other potential crimes and misdemeanors Trump commits in the next year(s)?) what is wrong with having the conversation. The whole,world is watching and listening. Let them also hear the power of oppostion to his hateful rhetoric, his allies in the White House and in Congress who sit silently to the rascist rants and nativism. The talk of our demise as a nation of liberty and freedom is premature.
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Oh, come on people. All politicians and voters from right-of-center to the left know Trump should be impeached, but the vast majority of us know it is a bad idea and so we say, nah, it hasn't gotten that far yet. Why? Because with Trump in office, more disasters are guaranteed, and he is not at all effective. If Trump got booted, then we'd be stuck with Pence who is a very effective, smart, trusted ultra-right wing conservative Christian Republican who would get a lot done we could not undo for a generation or more. Keep Pence in the closet please, and Keep Trump fumbling and bumbling on stage.
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The difference between legitimate and illegitimate here is that Mr Steyer is not hiding what he is doing. The Kochs and republicans have been for decades hiding what they are doing often writing law to make it easier to hide what they do just as the write and rewrite law to benefit their moneyed backers. They have gone so far as to alter our language and engage in producing fake science and polling and otherwise creating a false reality to manipulate their voters.
We used to go to war cold or hot against nations whose leaders did these things to their open people!
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The problem with impeachment is answering: “What’s next?”
Without a clear follow-up, the action of impeachment simply installs Pence and solidifies the control by bonkers billionaires already running the lackeys composing the GOP Congress.
That is not a future that encourages impeachment.
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Of course democrats are 'rattled'. Im as liberal as they come but these are not normal times, or normal people. 82 percent (according to Oxfam) of the worlds weath went to the top 1%, our president slept with a prostitute and retains a strong hold on his evangelical base, and its raining in the middle of January.
Playing clean isn't going to fix any one of these things, thats for sure.
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Insanity. Trump has committed the crime of not hewing the liberal line. A year of digging has turned up nothing remotely worth impeachment
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It ain't over till it's over.
Jake - among other things, misconduct is an impeachable offense, so is lying. There is no list of impeachable offenses. An impeachable offense is whatever the Senate deems it to be.
Quite frankly - I feel that Trump has done hundreds of impeachable offenses since day one – while you deem nothing remotely worth impeachment. There is also the matter - one that you may wish to consider - impeachment may not be a single act - it very well (and very likely) may be an accumulation of many smaller infractions which - when taken together form a pattern - and that pattern is worth impeachment. It is that pattern which Steyer is hitting upon - not any singular incident.
Once again...the Democrats are afraid...yes afraid to do what needs to be done, say what needs to be said. The Democrats are colluding...that's what is really going on. There is hardly any democracy left, no checks and balances...we live under a dictatorship already where millions of our citizens are unemployed, none or incidental health insurance, fearing for their lives or their families risking being split up with deportation. Racial/ethic/religious prejudice everywhere you look or read. Covert wars in multiple areas, our planet being polluted and destroyed, but Oh No!...the Democrats better play it safe...
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Tom Steyer is a hero.
America thanks you, sir.
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Trump has failed so miserably in the White House - that America has become the laughing stock of the world. We are the greatest nation in the world, led by a showman who should be on TV with his crazy antics, not a sitting President.
Yet, for some insane reason - this is the man America elected. Americans need to stand up now and make it right. We need to remove this dangerous lunatic from the oval office.
Whereas the Democrats crouch in the corner and are afraid to speak up, Mr. Steyer is taking a public stand to protect our nation.
If the Democrats are unable or unwilling to put on their "big boy pants" and protect America - then it falls to the American people to stand together to remove Trump from office.
I support Mr. Steyer 100%. It's time for Americans to rally together. I ask all Americans to join Mr. Steyer in taking back America.
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So why doesn't he just run, himself...
Mike Bloomberg did a great job as NYC mayor - and folks like Mark Cuban thinking openly about running...A great thing...
He clearly has the smarts for the job...
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Steyer is no better than the Koch Brothers. I am so sick of these billionaires polluting our democracy with their money. It is time we take our democracy back and put these pirates in their place.
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Keep going,Mr Steyer. Only Obama is better at getting Republicans elected.
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How ironic that it was Obama who was guilty of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" and should have been impeached.
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This guy is unhinged. Mr. Steyer...Trump won the election, please get over it.
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Tamar, I for one will never get over the fact that a lying bully who pretended that Obama's birthplace was a mystery and his birth certificate questionable was taken seriously enough to be elected as President of the United States. And I mention that not because it's the most egregious thing he's done but it's the most commonly known lie he has promoted. There are many, many others.
Not a fan of big money in politics- hard or soft, but the @DNC is a gutless bunch of hangers on that think by just being the non-Trump Party they are entitled to lead.
Lock Trump up!
Make America think again.
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Make America think for once.
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We already can see obstruction of justice, ties with Russian oligarchs, money laundering to name a few, of the myriad of crimes that meet the criteria for impeachment. Mueller will drop the bomb this year and the Dems will have the legal proof that they want to take action. Tick, tick, tick...
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A minority of commie-fa radicals screaming for support from workers who are prospering under Trumponomics will be an effective strategy to ensure it continues under the GOP Trifecta.
Go Tom...Go !!!
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If I had Tom Steyer's money, i'd buy the biggest, ugliest, loudest, and smelliest oil drilling platform and park it in front of Mar-A-Lago
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I'm a Democrat. I think Mr. Steyer's quest is a bit quixotic and likely a waste of his considerable fortune. I am not "rattled" by his effort. Nor am I in panic, disturbed, frightened, or any of the other things your headline writers have alleged in recent weeks. Somebody needs to hold a class on hyperbole and its pitfalls for the people who write your headers. Please.
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Impeach? And leave Mike Pence behind the wheel? Democrats should first address their internal rot by replacing Nancy Pelosi and Schummer and foster vivrant leadership of which there is none.
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We have a Russian agent running (ruining) our government for profit and it's not politically correct to demand impeachment? How cowardly can you get?
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it seems far easier to find Billionaire imbeciles than one would expect. I think this one should be arrested for Sedition.
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So, Steyer, is this what they mean by having more money than brains? Lol!
Good luck on the impeachment efforts of one of the best Presidents this nation has seen in the last 50+ years. Trump is supplanting Reagan's own legacy and by the end of his 8 years, we're hoping to stay the 22nd amendment and keep Trump in for a 3rd term.
#maga!!
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Steyer has always been a hard core, left wing, environmental wacko. He made his Billions from the oil and gas industry. Ironic? No, just a colossal hypocrite.
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Thank you, Mr. Steyer. Please MAGA = Make A&&40Le Go Away!
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Finally, the left's version of the Koch's is pushing! Calling out the right's fraud and scams does not make him a socialist, just a citizen looking for some truth.
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Even if this short sighted approach works, how does “President Pence” sound to you?
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Re - read the Constitution regarding grounds for impeachment. I think Mr Steyer fell asleep during poly sci class.
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This guy is a terrorist and an enemy of American freedom.
That's what the British called George Washington.
"This guy is a terrorist and an enemy of The Kingdom of Great Britain"
Steyer is the only Democrat with an attack dog mentality in the Party. Is anyone learning from him?
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Finance reform
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All this money, time , and effort to install Pastor Pence as Prez?
The buffoon is a blot on all of them, and him remaining will make it easier to clean all the roaches out this fall
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Mr Steyer, be careful of what you wish for. A President Pence is a con artist that scares me more.
How did Tom Steyer climb the ladder? Why would he look down at "his" employees with disdain? I am still baffled as to why voters continue to give their sweat money to these people. It is mental, physical and montetary theft. Impeach the Rich. Impeach the Rich. Impeach the Rich. Impeach the Rich.
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We can walk and simultaneously chew gum. If ever someone deserved impeachment, it is the guy who openly stands with Putin while deeming the free press, 'the enemy'. We don't need Mueller's findings to hammer away at this.
But it cannot be a sole focus, and risks us looking as stupid as the R's voting weekly to repeal Obamacare. So, let's everyone please calm down and save your ammo for the other side, ok?
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Due to the gross injustice of gerrymandering, there was no democratic process. So, Mr. Steyer, please, forge ahead. We need your voice in the midst of the insanity facing this nation. Democracy is threatened everyday with this administration's ongoing efforts to block persons' of color legal right to vote, attempts to politicize the neutrality of our nation's federal investigative organizations and lastly continued attacks on the process of freedom press with lies. These are the threats to our freedom and democracy. Become informed.
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Too many people have called for impeachment baseline their own personal value judgements for this to get much traction.
Another billionaire trying to influence American politics... yawn.
As others have commented, the money would be better spent on reversing Citizens United, setting congressional term limits and enhancing voter registration and poll protections. But, no, we have the big shot wanting the limelight - so predictable. Perhaps liberal Trump in the making?
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Kudos to Steyer for rocking the boat and putting his money where his mouth is. The democrats need this kind of wake up call. Their tactics don't seem to fully work against the corrupt president and the Republicans.
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Why should the Democrats be rattled? They should be cheering Steyer's efforts to rid this nation of perhaps the worst scourge in modern history. The Democrats do not seem to be putting a strong foot forward to try to get electoral victories and in any event the country cannot afford to wait until November 2018 - there may be no free USA by then as Trump and his horrific group continue to inevitably push forward to a rule by dictator.
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Oh come on editor. Really?
I'm a Democrat and I'm not rattled and I can't find anyone that is.
I appreciate Mr. Steyer's campaign. We are calling for impeachment for Trump's obvious treasonous ties to Russia, his corruption, and his unwillingness to protect our electoral system.
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Impeachment should not be at the center of any get-out-the-vote effort. It is a divisive issue to be sure when what we need are courageous and moderate elected officials who can unite. Important too is the knowledge that Pence would take his place, a frightening prospect in and of itself.
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Impeachment alone can't remove a president. It's a process not a removal. It will function as Trump's day in court.
Let the investigation continue so that when the process starts, all the necessary facts and information are ready to go and Trump's case will be harder to defend.
Impeachment stands as a safeguard to our democracy and should not be seen as a political ploy like President Clinton's. Let the Trump impeachment, if it happens, serve as a model, showing others the strongest instrument we possess in our check and balance system.
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Mr. Steyer's NextGen organization hires young people to go to college campuses and help students register to VOTE. There's no pressure for them to vote one way or another, but many college students lean Democratic. I think Steyer's energy and money does tremendous good in this country and he speaks truth to power. He's correct - Trump's actions were impeachable offenses from his first day in office. It's outrageous that Trump is still a resident in the building he called "a dump." You GO Tom Steyer. You're on the right side of history.
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Once Dems lose the immigration battle it's over for them. They used to help working people. Wages are still at 1980's levels. They've failed completely in helping the worker by that benchmark alone. The market has driven wages past the federal minimum proving dems are completely ineffectual in helping working people. They can help 3rd world people by bringing them here and improving their standard of living but they're the only ones they've the wherewithal to help and people are strarting to catch on. They've no place in an economically globalized world of nation states.
At the moment the alternatives if Trump is impeached are not preferable. Pence would push the religious agenda even more and next in line is Paul Ryan. What a bunch of bad choices no matter how you look at it.
Is Steyer planning on running?
Perhaps this signals the emergence of the next Democrat President? I could vote for Mr. Steyer.
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I think an unconventional problem needs an unconventional solution. How about we raise money, make him an offer he won't refuse, and just buy him out? We'll meet him on his level. It could be a lot quicker...
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Democratic leaders will listen to him and humor him as long as he’s giving them money. Behind his back, they laugh at his amateurism.
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Like the Republicans laughed at trump?
I think Steyer is like the airline steward who tells you that in an flight emergency, you need to put your mask on first before you can help your child put theirs on. Makes good sense. We need to focus on getting rid of donny. I'm about halfway through Wolff's book and the vision I have of the WH is that EVERYONE BUT the president in running the nation. We have elected a vacant body. If there are a few typos, who cares. After reading about dump for a whole year, I find no conflicting story, and those who say it is riddled with errors---my question would be--HOW MANY months did they spend in the WH?
Steyer, is right. If the democrats want to help the Dreamers, we need to get rid of donny and the GOPEE PARTY this November. That is No 1 on the list. (unless of course, Mueller beats us to it).
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"Democrats Rattled by Billionaire Trying to Impeach Trump"
NOPE, NOPE, Nope. Correct headline
Democratic Donors from Wall Street are rattled by wayward follow Billionaire"
The Wall Street Wing of the Democratic Party is making money hand over fist under Trump. Don't you dare to shake the boat, Mr. Steyer
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Top contributors , Charles E Schumer, 2011 - 2016, Campaign Committee & Leadership PAC Combined:
1 Paul, Weiss et al
2 Deloitte LLP
3 PricewaterhouseCoopers
4 Lockheed Martin
5 NorPAC
6 KPMG LLP
7 Citigroup Inc
8 Blackstone Group
9 New York Life Insurance
10 Lazard Lt
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Tom Steyer is one of the few people at the national level who is actually voicing the will of the people. Meanwhile, as witnessed yesterday, most Democrats are playing go-along-to-get-along. Where's that getting them? Tom Steyer may not be elected, but he's doing a better job representing me than Claire McCaskill, much less that guy in the back pocket of the tobacco lobbyists, Mel Blunt.
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Totally support Tom Steyer. The power-addicts in congress salving their investment accounts and ignoring the obvious passion of the populace are going to keep up their mode of weakness. The government shutdown was the best thing to happen. A radical approach that throws everything into the air and requires a new system of assembly is the only way to keep the Orange Pumpkin from continuing to make the country a authoritarian oligarchy. Wake up congress - observe the streets.
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Mobilizing voters is the most important thing. That's how Roy Moore was defeated.
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The only problem with impeaching and removing Trump from office is that Mike Pence is even worse. And if you remove Pence, Paul Ryan is next in line. So while I greatly admire Tom Steyer and his support for good causes, I really don't see a good game plan with the removal of Trump from office other than is puts pressure on Trump and can whip up the Democratic base - but is also can turn off independents and more conservative Democrats.
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Completely agree Pence is horrible but in a different way. I would not be surprised at all if not only trump has broken the law but pence, sessions, & the others who worked on the campaign and the current WH Staff. Ryan as president with the Democrat majority in the House & Senate would be the best we could do until 2020.
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I want to LIKE this 100 times. Making Trump powerless is the short-term goal. If this weekend is any indication, maybe - just maybe - his own party will just "not play" and do their work without including him.
How do Democrates go forward after removing him with a long line of equally disturbing Republicans waiting to step into his place?
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Come January 2019, there is a distinct possibility that Nancy Pelosi, not Ryan, would be third in line. A good reason for her to be dancing very carefully around the subject of impeachment for now....
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As a progressive liberal, I appreciate that Steyer is on "my side". That said, I'd much prefer that he would use his deep pockets toward getting rid of Citizens United and towards rendering billionaires like him, who insert themselves into the political process on both the left and the right, mostly useless.
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The Democrats need this kind of passion and enthusiasm in leadership.
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After making his billions in hedge funds largely betting on fossil fuels, Tom Steyer did an about-face and started plowing money into green energy and other nonsense all based on global warming (climate change). Then he plowed money into politicians (Barack Obama being the most prolific) who would legislate for more green energy based on crazy bad science so his investments would prosper.
Trump, with his climate change skepticism and disdain for anything climate change or restrictive regulation, is the anti-Christ to Tom Steyer....and for one reason....he threatens Steyer's pile of money. Democrats would be wise to separate from this wolf in sheep's clothing, as he doesn't give a rat's rear end about anyone except Tom Steyer.
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ounce of prevention, poun... stitch in ti...
Interesting the Times is interested in covering this, but where was the Times between election day & the electoral college vote, when a Who's Who of the nation's most eminent legal scholars, political scientists, historians, & philosophers determined this was a historic instance of an apparently vestigial or archaic device -the electoral college- actually having a legitimate, necessary role? From Harvard to Penn to Stanford to U. Chicago to podunk & a broad swath in between, & reliable experts from institutions beyond the academy, a petition was waged, signed by very nearly 5 million, to deny Trump the presidency based on clear unpreparedness - a combination of ethical, intellectual, legal & psychological factors - for the job.
The Times, like CNN & other major venues, gave virtually no coverage.
Clearly this was a calculated national safety decision: if the electoral college had denied Trump, given the nature of many of his supporters, we would have seen rifles & clubs wielded where instead we eventually got the milder tiki torches.
Just the same, the petition did foresee the eventual need to remove trump, & the media's pragmatic non-coverage (& mocking trivialization during fleeting acknowledgement) may have been misguided if impeachment ultimately happens, or trump actually ruins the country, neither being extremely unlikely.
Indeed, the media/Times did have a duty to report the petition fully & fairly, which was shirked.
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In general I like and support Steyer. However, like too many wealthy folks dabbling in politics, there are dangers here.
One of these applies to virtually all such folks with his background — a bit too much hubris, a certain faith that they, as "business people" know best how government should work. Those of us on the liberal side should look squarely at how that has played out on the other side of the political spectrum.
A second concern has to do with a a kind of political naivete that the potential to backfire badly. Does anyone doubt that Democrats, faced with increasing evidence of Trump's unfitness for office, would resist an impeachment investigation _after_ a 2018 election win? The smart politician does NOT weaken Democratic candidates' appeal by pushing them into taking this stand now. (In fact, "going there" smells a whole lot like what happened to the Republicans when they caved to the most radical right-wing demands.)
I hope that the party is smart enough to resist this.
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Kudos to Mr. Steyer and his self-financed activism. In the era of "tell it like it is" (promulgated by Trump himself), Mr. Steyer is formidable and convincing in his campaign to remove from office the worst president in American history. Rather than a distraction, Mr. Steyer is a national hero, willing to overtly state what others merely think, and to galvanize support in an admirable effort to unseat a dangerous, incompetent, ignorant fraud. If I had Mr. Steyer's financial heft, I would be doing the exact same thing.
I have seen a few of the TV ads Styer has made for impeachment. They plainly describe Trump's impeachable actions. I only wish he would run them on Fox news and other conservative outlets, where possibly additional, if only minor, support could be garnered.
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He tried. They refused.
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Go for it, Mr. Steyer! When McConnell and Ryan burn Schumer and Pelosi on the immigration talks, as in they won't happen (e.g., the ACA "promises" made to Susan Collins that McConnell reneged on), perhaps then the Democrats will recognize their collective flat learning curve, begin listening to their constituents, and develop a different strategy.
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You know what they say - Be careful what you wish for. Do you really want Pence to be POTUS? Yes, Trump is unqualified and a disaster but Pence will be equally bad, just for different reasons. The best thing the Dems can do is continue to let Trump shoot himself, and the Republican party, in the foot for the next three years. Removing the incumbent Trump at the ballot box in 2020 will be a lot easier than removing an incumbent Pence.
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so what the democrats are saying is no to impeachment because they have enough skeletons in their closets to get tossed out too. time to wake up America! seems like one very rich dude(how ironic) is calling the shots to the "party of the people". rich people run the left and the right and we still only accept a two party system.
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You'd think if he was smart enough to become a billionaire Tom Steyer would be smart enough to understand the U.S. Constitution and what is needed to secure impeachment. I would think it beneath the dignity of such a prominent man to be cyring like a baby because somebody he doesn't like won the election. A rich guy uses his money to buy a public temper tantrum. You overturn the results of an election with another election. That's the way American Democracy works. If Mr. Steyer doesn't like it, he can move some place where they remove leaders with revolutions and military coups.
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Tom Steyer, you aren't any different from the Mercers. I don't want you to subvert the democratic process with your money. Just because you have an itch that needs scratching doesn't mean we should accommodate you. I want the political process to play out in a way that won't backfire on Americans who want Trump out of office.
Dems need to stop taking money from this guy. Seriously.
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how does disarmament work when only one side does it?
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Comparing apples and oranges. The Mercers do their dirty business subverting democracy behind the scenes while colluding with other super wealthy against the populous and the planet.
Tom Steyer is working with and for the people, very out in the open with love of the planet.
How long before anyone ever even learned of the Mercers? Do you see Steyer putting nightmares like Bannon, DeVos and Sessions in the government?
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"Tom Steyer, you aren't any different from the Mercers. I don't want you to subvert the democratic process with your money."
KatheM...with all due respect, money can not be regarded as a 'subversive' factor in a democracy. Money is, in fact, the heart and soul of the political process all over the world, regardless of the form of government. Now, you can fairly decry that sad fact, but that does not make the importance of money subversive.
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We most certainly can and indeed must have a conversation about impeachment now before we take the House back. Because unless we raise impeachment we will never link together the issues needed to galvanize the voters to take back the House. Timidity in defense of freedom is a vice. Throw out the political professionals as they only ensure repetition of strategies that have already failed us. With this realization in mind consider that the climate change clock is already ticking close to midnight and we have a crisis where direct action is necessitated. The base moves the political class not the other way around. Impeachment Now!
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Mr. Steyer (on the off chance that you will read this) your efforts would be far more effective if aimed at the multitudes looking for a leader (maybe you can find one among your “star search” candidates) to lead targeted non-violent protests and acts of civil disobedience.
What has happened this past year cannot be the new normal. Where are the work stoppages, the demonstrations against companies imperiling public health by working with the EPA to deregulate; against anti-immigrant groups promoting the separation of millions of families, against politicians whose actions are hollowing out the middle class and further condemning the underserved, whose indefensible defense of President Trump is degrading our judiciary, intelligence and law enforcement agencies and our diplomatic corps. Where is the outrage that our Commander in Chief has not only failed to respond to an attack against the United States, but has offered only praise for the attacker?
Trump and his enablers are not taking us back to some long lost period of American greatness, they are leading us into a new dystopia that is using fear, prejudice and ignorance to jettison the values on which this country was built.
This should and must be resisted. Winning elections is of course a critical component, but so is demonstrating limits on what the American public is willing to tolerate. Mr. Steyer, help to mobilize the masses.
Sure, it may be unlikely to impeach and remove Trump. But that is not the point. The movement will fire up the base and drive Democrats to the poll in November. Look what Trump has done by firing up his minority base. It's just pathetic that there are millions more Democrats and yet lose, and we have the timid and feckess leaders to thank for that.
Boring Schumer, the guardian angel of the carried interest for his friends in NYC, and fumbling Nancy Pelosi will have to go before Democrats can face down the take-no-prisoners Republicans and win. My money is on Steyer.
Trump bashing will only polarize and antagonize. And indeed, as another commenter mentioned: If Trump is impeached, who will replace him? Do you want Pence? Paul Ryan? People such as Pence & Ryan are even more dangerous to democracy in that they appear so *normal* compared to Trump. Let Mr. Mueller do his job. Let the wheels of justice turn. Slowly and thoroughly. IMHO it's the lesser of all evils right now. The choices are not pretty.
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Mr. Steyer's intentions are good, and I signed his petition. I also think he has a presidential run in mind and this petition is a veiled way of gathering email addresses for his campaign more than anything.
Surely this is a wasted effort as Trump has proven to be a worthy adversary even against his own party and state for which he governs.
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General observation: It's easy to sit back and say congress is ineffective and the leaders are stupid. There is, however, a particular mechanism to getting things done in congress. Newcomers, on the right particularly but also on the left, have proven themselves to be ineffective in getting the mechanism to move at all, let alone more quickly. Stamping ones little feet and reading Green Eggs and Ham until midnight do not legislation make. I think the leaders on both sides know the political calculus. They know how to calculate odds and are experienced at weighing risk vs reward. Do the bets always pay off? No, but its not for a lack of political calculation.
Specific observation: In the particular case of impeachment, Democratic leaders, who clearly and publicly condemn the president's behavior, are calculating and, for whatever reason -- not the least of which is controlling neither house in congress; have determined this is not the time to act.
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Democrat supporters have learned to not trust the Party's "political calculations". In one NYT readers observation: "the Democrats have the reputation for bringing a knife to a gun fight and then stabbing themselves with it".
Perhaps it is time for a novel strong approach.
Congress ineffective?
Congress is corrupted to its very marrow by a lobbying industry representing big-money special interests, why it’s hardly surprising that the only substantial legislation enacted during 2017 was tax “relief” for those same wealthy special interests. It’s hardly ineffective. It’s just not effective protecting you from the interests that it actually serves.
Many Independents and moderates have negative feelings towards Trump but also equally negative feelings towards anti-Trump hysteria
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I applaud his efforts. Given what we already know, Trump has very likely committed multiple impeachable offenses since arriving in office, not to mention likely criminal acts committed before, which are impeachable acts, when proven.
Find good Democratic candidates,
fund them, figure how how to
promote them on social media.
Take the House & Senate and
use the brilliance of our American
system. As terrible as Trump is, it does
not seem probable that he can be
impeached unless the Russia investigation
finds proof of criminal behavior. I am
in strongly progressive, Democratic
California. Give the citizens of other
states candidates they can enthusiastically
support.
I would rather see Tom Steyer spend his money getting every eligible democratic voter their voting registration completed, all i's dotted all t's crossed and then give them all a ride to the voting box on the "right" day to vote. Put together an expert team to help people gather their documents required to register. Also, put together an expert team to ensure that the voting process, machine or paper is up to perfection. No double voting, No illegal voting.... in the end, there would never be another republican in office.
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The DEMs since Clinton at least are in the main spineless and/or more republican than DEM in their outlooks and what things they think important. How is it they failed to confront the lies about preventing soldiers from getting paid?!
Schumer, Pelosi, et al have to go. We need real Democrats like Bernie Sanders who is centrist not leftist. He only seems leftist because of how much the republicans have distorted our politics since reagan.
Where are the democrats who know the republicans are wrong and can say why?
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Can and will without shrinking say why!
Interesting how few people know what impeachment is. It doesn’t mean removing them from office, but rather putting them on trial in the Senate. Bill Clinton was impeached, but Richard Nixon wasn’t.
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Like all republicans Nixon wanted to have a clean public image. Since anyone with sense knew him to be guilty clean in the GOP sense here means there was no trial or guilty verdict. So to him he went to his grave innocent of the crimes we all know through the tapes and other evidence he committed.
Clinton was guilty of lying to hide an affair. A lie a rogue sexually perverted Special Prosecutor (An office created to investigate Nixon) forced him into. That prosecution was so tainted the Congress to include the republicans who empaneled the special prosecutor against Clinton abolished the office of Special Prosecutor. In the end Congress could not see its way to removing Clinton from office.
Mr Mueller is a Special Counsel with limitations on him that Ken Starr never had. I cannot state those limits right now.
Thank heavens at least one person is prepared to take a stand against this preposterous president. Americans are going to look back at this period in their history & wonder what possessed themselves to vote Trump in. A word of caution though - do those favouring impeachment understand what kind of a replacement the country will get. There are several aspects of a Pence presidency which need to be considered. Do the Democrats have a detailed strategic plan on how to manage Pence and his acolytes once he is in tbe Oval office. Be careful what you wish for.
“We’re just telling the truth to the American people, and it’s an important truth,”
Amen.
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After the republicans obstructed everything that came down the pike during the Obama years to holding the Supreme Court nomination hostage, to the recent ad which said the Democrats would be held responsible for any illegal immigrant who murdered a good white American I don't care what anybody thinks about Steyer. Trump is a crook and a fraud and should be impeached. If he wants to throw Pence and the rest of the republican do nothings into the mix I'm fine with that too!
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We think he's terrible. That's the case for impeachment Steyer lays out. Yes he's terrible, but literally nothing, zero, that he's done meets the standards for actual impeachment, you know, legally.
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The list of impeachable offenses is long and strong. But if you keep your head planted firmly in the sand you won't be able to see them.
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Steyer is a leader. The current Dems are the worst leaders imaginable. Pelosi? Is there a worse person to have leading the party. It breaks my heart but the Dem leadership is pitiful. Downright criminal. Wake up please.