mary, did you get your answer?
It's M in(side) TY. So you split T and Y and put the M in.
MINTY.
Same for LINGO. L in GO = GLO.
It's all explained earlier in the comments below too, much better than I did.
It's M in(side) TY. So you split T and Y and put the M in.
MINTY.
Same for LINGO. L in GO = GLO.
It's all explained earlier in the comments below too, much better than I did.
OPEC units are "bbls". An OPEC unit is a "BBL".
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i had bls before bbl.
I loved I love this puzzle - brilliant theme - really fun to do - great job
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This was the most annoying and unsatisfying puzzle I can remember. Poor clues, obscure words. No fun
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I could do without seeing ROLEO again for a while, but at least this puzzle didn't have BRA (which is really beginning to annoy me). I, too, got stuck on ROWR, and I have no excuse: I know perfectly well that there's a STEWIE on Family Guy, and I still insisted that the answer was STEVIE.
Overall, I enjoyed this puzzle. That could be in part because I knew it was Thursday and I rather dread Thursday puzzles. ("Do I have the wrong answer or are they messing with the setup again? I JUST DON'T KNOW!")
Overall, I enjoyed this puzzle. That could be in part because I knew it was Thursday and I rather dread Thursday puzzles. ("Do I have the wrong answer or are they messing with the setup again? I JUST DON'T KNOW!")
maybe a duplicate comment, but didn't see it in my perusal...
Misdirection in the revealer: "Kind of" meaning "ish" not "a type of". So it was ABC-ish. But not inclusive. With some letters getting 4 words, others none at all.
Can easily construct an intensifier that uses most of the missing letters (F, K, N, G. . .don't forget U).
Not up to usual Thursday level, but that's ok. Need a break now and again.
Misdirection in the revealer: "Kind of" meaning "ish" not "a type of". So it was ABC-ish. But not inclusive. With some letters getting 4 words, others none at all.
Can easily construct an intensifier that uses most of the missing letters (F, K, N, G. . .don't forget U).
Not up to usual Thursday level, but that's ok. Need a break now and again.
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1. Yawn 2. ROWR??????????? Gimme a break. Had to look at the solution to see that I was correct. This may be my most disliked Thursday ever.
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Agreed, "rowr" is just terrible. Looks Welsh. But I look on the bright side, at least there were no rebuses.
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There is a link between TINAFEY and BOOYAH, in case that makes the word easier to swallow:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ7Zw2o5FIs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ7Zw2o5FIs
Total failure for me. And, IMO, total constructor’s puzzle. Even the column’s Constructor Notes were total constructors’ Constructor Notes. The me they read like a course summary for a drafting class.
I slogged through most of the puzzle before I saw the gimmick. It neither helped my solve nor interested me.
By the time I had finished, I had corrected several errors while remaining unsure of a lot. But I’d lost interest, so went straight to Ms. Check. She confirmed that there were several I’d missed. I worked on those for a while and corrected all but one (guess which one!).
Those corrected, before and after being flagged by Ms. Check, included RUINS before RAINS and SNAGS before SHAGS, giving me BOOYUN. Remembered hearing what could have been BOO-YUH somewhere, and that there was something in baseball called SHAGging. RAINS took a little longer.
VOL before COL, so IROVS before unknown IROCS. CALORIc before CALORIE, so REE, but I’ve never had a boombox so who knew?
ASTERS and CLAUDIA were gimmes. (My late beloved CLAUDIA, the almost whippet, was so named because I was reading “I, Claudius” when I adopted her.)
Did know how to spell EYDIE and YTTRIUM (thought not its AT.NO.).
Finally left with STEVIE/ROVR or STEAIE/ROAR. Didn’t care anymore, so Revealed. Today, IMO, it’s not the Red Triangle of Shame but of Knowing When To Quit.
Don’t like to be harsh, but I so look forward to Thursdays, plus missed wordplayfulness. I do recognize the accomplishment.
I slogged through most of the puzzle before I saw the gimmick. It neither helped my solve nor interested me.
By the time I had finished, I had corrected several errors while remaining unsure of a lot. But I’d lost interest, so went straight to Ms. Check. She confirmed that there were several I’d missed. I worked on those for a while and corrected all but one (guess which one!).
Those corrected, before and after being flagged by Ms. Check, included RUINS before RAINS and SNAGS before SHAGS, giving me BOOYUN. Remembered hearing what could have been BOO-YUH somewhere, and that there was something in baseball called SHAGging. RAINS took a little longer.
VOL before COL, so IROVS before unknown IROCS. CALORIc before CALORIE, so REE, but I’ve never had a boombox so who knew?
ASTERS and CLAUDIA were gimmes. (My late beloved CLAUDIA, the almost whippet, was so named because I was reading “I, Claudius” when I adopted her.)
Did know how to spell EYDIE and YTTRIUM (thought not its AT.NO.).
Finally left with STEVIE/ROVR or STEAIE/ROAR. Didn’t care anymore, so Revealed. Today, IMO, it’s not the Red Triangle of Shame but of Knowing When To Quit.
Don’t like to be harsh, but I so look forward to Thursdays, plus missed wordplayfulness. I do recognize the accomplishment.
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This is a reconstruction of a CiC that I wrote and submitted, but the graying never yellowed out, so I had to reconstruct.
So errors like "the me" instead of "to me" in paragraph 1.
Sorry.
So errors like "the me" instead of "to me" in paragraph 1.
Sorry.
Nice themeless puzzle — or so it seemed while solving, as I promptly forgot about 1 down = ABC and just solved away, or tried to, until reaching the middle right with only M.I.T. and OSLO across, and TIE A down. Still a hole at 18. A newspaper COL. would means IROCS. IROCS? Apparently. A solid themeless with perhaps a few more obscure facts than is ideal (the first name of the first African American manager to win a World Series? Chemical element number 39?)
Only afterward did I notice the surprising alphabetical order that was revealed at 1D. Quite a feat of construction to accomplish this. But as a solver I confess to placing higher weight on the experience of solving than on the construction. Having forgotten entirely about 1D during solving, I neglected to use alphabetical order to help the solve (which surely would have helped). Even if I had, this would not be an exciting Thursday theme. Still, can't object to a three-themeless week with Friday and Saturday coming up!
Only afterward did I notice the surprising alphabetical order that was revealed at 1D. Quite a feat of construction to accomplish this. But as a solver I confess to placing higher weight on the experience of solving than on the construction. Having forgotten entirely about 1D during solving, I neglected to use alphabetical order to help the solve (which surely would have helped). Even if I had, this would not be an exciting Thursday theme. Still, can't object to a three-themeless week with Friday and Saturday coming up!
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I also forgot completely about clue 1Down, and realize now that catching its drift would have helped me, as I'd thought the baseball manager's name would be TITO or VITO. I also came to TIE_A the hard way, as all I could think of was 'She wore a yellow ribbon'. OTOH, I had a nodding acquaintance with IROCS, although I couldn't describe them. I imagine IROCS to be some kind of muscle car, though I can't describe what those are either.
Time was I thought nothing of replacing a coil or taking off a distributor cap to dry it when it had rained and the old Volvo wouldn't start, but it seems I'm becoming automotively challenged as I age. 'Hemi' and 'zum-zum'? Fuhgeddabahtit!
Still somewhat in the dark with 49D. I made it MOUSY, and still don't see MOSSY as being' old-fashioned in any way.
Bottom line: Guess I'm a little disappointed in missing a dose of evil Thursday trickery, but enjoyed it beaucoup as a themeless.
Time was I thought nothing of replacing a coil or taking off a distributor cap to dry it when it had rained and the old Volvo wouldn't start, but it seems I'm becoming automotively challenged as I age. 'Hemi' and 'zum-zum'? Fuhgeddabahtit!
Still somewhat in the dark with 49D. I made it MOUSY, and still don't see MOSSY as being' old-fashioned in any way.
Bottom line: Guess I'm a little disappointed in missing a dose of evil Thursday trickery, but enjoyed it beaucoup as a themeless.
One man's obscurity is another man's belt-high fastball down the middle. Cito Gaston? Blue Jays manager a while back. IROC. Steroidal muscle car from some decades ago. Claudia? Not a clue, until I had 2/3s of the letters.
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Wow, I did not see this theme at all. I rolled through the whole puzzle easily and then was left scratching my head. I had to read the blog to discover what the ABC order was. A nice feat of construction, but not much for the solver to savor.
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Sometimes I think all puzzle constructors spend their spare time watching TV, or reading TV guide. It would be nice to see at least one puzzle without a TV character crossing with an invented exclamation. And, to be really picky, shouldn't the constructor have attempted to include all the letters in the alphabet. Now that would be an accomplishment.
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It could probably be done in a Sunday. Although at Sunday's size it might be more difficult to maintain alphabetical order of across entries than to find more room to get all of the letters in the alphabet.
We can criticize the solving experience of the puzzle all we want as solvers, but on the constructing side of things, I personally wouldn't be so critical that they didn't accomplish more to make it even more whatever it is the theme or gimmick is meant to be. It certainly would be quite the accomplishment to get all letters in, though.
We can criticize the solving experience of the puzzle all we want as solvers, but on the constructing side of things, I personally wouldn't be so critical that they didn't accomplish more to make it even more whatever it is the theme or gimmick is meant to be. It certainly would be quite the accomplishment to get all letters in, though.
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I have never heard BOOYAH other than in movies or TV.
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The ROWR kerfuffle has detracted from a very praiseworthy construction. Normally I don't like themes which are difficult to figure out, but it was fun studying this one, once finished, and getting the trick. Kudo's to AE-S for a good one.
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Limited time to do this one. Didn't do well on it. Didn't figure it out. Won't judge. Would have gone with the 'cool whip' Brian and Stewie video (somebody link it for me).
Update. Left Pocatello yesterday morning with the goal of getting to the north rim in time for sunset. Figured we had time for a stop at Bryce Canyon. It was beautiful, but some construction getting there slowed us down considerably. Lots of rain off and on, though the sky was fascinating all day. Bottom line, we pulled into the park with about 25 minutes to spare. Got to the rim - it's still raining. We head out to an overlook, and get there with about 10 minutes left and it stops raining. Indescribably beautiful. Varying clouds everywhere - a rainbow on the opposite of the rim.
My son sets up his Go-Pro camera to film the sunset and we walk a little farther down the trail to watch it (there was no one else on the trail but us). A couple comes along - the man assumes that somebody left the little camera behind and picks it up. Missed about the last 3 minutes of the sunset. He felt terrible but it wasn't his fault.
Almost hit a deer on the way out of the park at fairly high speed. By almost, I mean we missed him by about a foot (the deer backed up instead of staying still or going forward). Heading for the south rim this morning. Will figure out how to put pictures somewhere to post when we get home. Later.
Update. Left Pocatello yesterday morning with the goal of getting to the north rim in time for sunset. Figured we had time for a stop at Bryce Canyon. It was beautiful, but some construction getting there slowed us down considerably. Lots of rain off and on, though the sky was fascinating all day. Bottom line, we pulled into the park with about 25 minutes to spare. Got to the rim - it's still raining. We head out to an overlook, and get there with about 10 minutes left and it stops raining. Indescribably beautiful. Varying clouds everywhere - a rainbow on the opposite of the rim.
My son sets up his Go-Pro camera to film the sunset and we walk a little farther down the trail to watch it (there was no one else on the trail but us). A couple comes along - the man assumes that somebody left the little camera behind and picks it up. Missed about the last 3 minutes of the sunset. He felt terrible but it wasn't his fault.
Almost hit a deer on the way out of the park at fairly high speed. By almost, I mean we missed him by about a foot (the deer backed up instead of staying still or going forward). Heading for the south rim this morning. Will figure out how to put pictures somewhere to post when we get home. Later.
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Here ya go, Rich:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmqJQ-nc_s
P.S. Send me a jar of the bison jam from the other day, I wanna try it on my toast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZmqJQ-nc_s
P.S. Send me a jar of the bison jam from the other day, I wanna try it on my toast.
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Thanks for sharing your adventures, Rich.
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Brilliant design.
ROWR! BOOYAH! MWAH! BLECCH!
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Hey, did everybody know the site of Hercules's first labor but me?
I guessed wrong (NEMUA) and fiddled around a bit but still ended up with the embarrassing STUAIE at 64A because...ROAR! Could *not* figure a way out of there.
And BTW, what the heck kind of name for a car is IROCS? Also, despite first hearing it from the excellent Ellen Page on some PSA or another, I am personally against the word BOOYAH: it just seems so artificial.
But that's just me. Totally legit to use them.
And I loved the theme-in-plain-site, which I got late in the game but before I came here, so nice work, Alex. If I were not willing to fail every so often I'd be stuck with Monday and Tuesday puzzles!
No offense to Monday and Tuesday. ;-)
I guessed wrong (NEMUA) and fiddled around a bit but still ended up with the embarrassing STUAIE at 64A because...ROAR! Could *not* figure a way out of there.
And BTW, what the heck kind of name for a car is IROCS? Also, despite first hearing it from the excellent Ellen Page on some PSA or another, I am personally against the word BOOYAH: it just seems so artificial.
But that's just me. Totally legit to use them.
And I loved the theme-in-plain-site, which I got late in the game but before I came here, so nice work, Alex. If I were not willing to fail every so often I'd be stuck with Monday and Tuesday puzzles!
No offense to Monday and Tuesday. ;-)
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IROC was a stock car race -- International Race of Champions. So I suppose it was equivalent to naming a muscle car the Camaro NASCAR?
I can't say for sure, but it seems like the Monte Carlo, Grand Prix and Monaco were named with a prestigious race in mind.
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No beef with the slang. More about that in a moment.
Underwhelming theme for a Thursday. I'll take the bait from Martin and just say it: missing letters. Had trouble spelling YTTRIUM correctly (YETRIUM?) Bigger problems in the NW (RAE, BBS), which kept me away from the reveal for a while.
Any Marines (active or former) in attendance? Pretty sure they say "HOORAH" (often sounds more like "OORAH"). BOOYAH may be a corruption of that.
Back to 56D: the 2004 movie "Lost Skeleton of Cadavra" is a spot-on parody of 50s/60s low-budget sci-fi flicks. Very funny if you're into that kind of thing. Anyway, the requisite mad scientist character creates a feline female companion from spare parts. Her catch phrase is ROWR. See first 10 seconds of this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdNbCvVSWSI
The Jackson 5 on American Bandstand in 1970, lip-synching to "ABC." Michael is 11 or 12 years old in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U
Underwhelming theme for a Thursday. I'll take the bait from Martin and just say it: missing letters. Had trouble spelling YTTRIUM correctly (YETRIUM?) Bigger problems in the NW (RAE, BBS), which kept me away from the reveal for a while.
Any Marines (active or former) in attendance? Pretty sure they say "HOORAH" (often sounds more like "OORAH"). BOOYAH may be a corruption of that.
Back to 56D: the 2004 movie "Lost Skeleton of Cadavra" is a spot-on parody of 50s/60s low-budget sci-fi flicks. Very funny if you're into that kind of thing. Anyway, the requisite mad scientist character creates a feline female companion from spare parts. Her catch phrase is ROWR. See first 10 seconds of this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdNbCvVSWSI
The Jackson 5 on American Bandstand in 1970, lip-synching to "ABC." Michael is 11 or 12 years old in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U
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It's all way good to have a belly laugh in the morning. Thank you for that stellar film clip! Takes me back to holiday meals with the in-laws...
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Jimbeau, the first 10 seconds are well and good, but the last 2 minutes are stellar!
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The whole movie is worth watching. Hilariously, purposely bad--which is not easy to pull off. And there is an actual lost skeleton in the mix.
Now I need to dig up my DVD for another viewing.
Now I need to dig up my DVD for another viewing.
56D could have read, "Seats far from the stage."
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Give that man a free ride on the Staten Island Ferry!
(And some good TKTS)
(And some good TKTS)
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I was trying to figure out a way to work in something like the "row behind Q", but yours is a much more elegant.
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What Barry said!!!
(I'll be glad to accompany you to the theatre, etaoin; your choice of show [within reason].)
(I'll be glad to accompany you to the theatre, etaoin; your choice of show [within reason].)
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Sorry. I was using the Urban grammar book to post.
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Hmmm, apple pie order is how I neaten up. Am I the only one who's never heard of ABC order? My ignorance definitely took some wind out of the sails for me on this one. I got the theme but didn't appreciate it as much as I should have.
The hardest part for me was the STEWIE/ROWR cross. I did get it and have been practicing my ROWR all morning. I thank Mr. Alex Eaton-Salners for that!
This is one of those puzzles I admire immensely for the construction but feel a bit disconnected from the basic --- ABC -- concept.
The hardest part for me was the STEWIE/ROWR cross. I did get it and have been practicing my ROWR all morning. I thank Mr. Alex Eaton-Salners for that!
This is one of those puzzles I admire immensely for the construction but feel a bit disconnected from the basic --- ABC -- concept.
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With respect, I beg to differ, Johanna: I think you *did* appreciate the theme as much as you should have.
Roll over, ROVR.
Roll over, ROVR.
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Henpet saw the alphabetical thing early on, though for a while the solid square in the middle looked as though it might mean something. (Does it ever?) Seeing the ABC helped a lot. Thought of the flap about ADORBS with 39D.
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I'm in the "Thursday is mean dirty trick day" camp, so I was fine with this. I have simply learned to read Wordplay every Thursday before even looking at the puzzle. (All sports clues are obscure arcana to me anyway.) Last time I was emailing with the young people (bless'em) they were typing "RAWR" not "ROWR" but hey, who can be arbiter of the spelling of onomatopoeia? Depends on the tiger's dialect, I'm sure.
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Except for the oft-mentioned ROWR, I quite liked this puzzle. I never heard of IROCS or BOOYAH; my son has recommended Family Guy for comedic relief but I've not watched it yet so STEWIE was new to me.
ASTERS and CLAUDIA were instant fills but many of the others took several go arounds and circuitous reasoning before they fell into place even after I recognized the theme. Good work Alex.
Nice roaring video, Peaches.
ASTERS and CLAUDIA were instant fills but many of the others took several go arounds and circuitous reasoning before they fell into place even after I recognized the theme. Good work Alex.
Nice roaring video, Peaches.
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Having the reveal located in the NW (I always start there) was of considerable benefit to my effort. When it comes to theme determination, my experience is always the sooner the better...I've been a WP reader for over 6 1/2 years so this was not my 1st ROLEO. Be that as it may, I still had to log this one in the fail COL. Once the shoe dropped, as it so frequently does, I found myself IN UP to my ears while SEEKING answers to these toughies: CRTS, NEMEA, ROWR and YTTRIUM...Isn't that OVATE headed STEWIE Griffin just too cute?...17a prompted thoughts of this well respected backing singer, CLAUDIA LINNEAR. She was part of Morgan Neville's 2013 Documentary "Twenty Feet From Stardom."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFIzRBwPLU
I'LL SEE YOU Later,
Bru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFIzRBwPLU
I'LL SEE YOU Later,
Bru
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Saw the theme right away. Thought there might be more of a pattern to the use of the LETTERs, but I guess that would have been asking too much. So it was okay, but did not rise to the level of a Thursday for me.
Timely clue referencing Tiger. I understand one escaped en route to a zoo and sadly had to be killed. It's a wonder this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, especially in a natural disaster like Harvey or Irma.
Timely clue referencing Tiger. I understand one escaped en route to a zoo and sadly had to be killed. It's a wonder this kind of thing doesn't happen more often, especially in a natural disaster like Harvey or Irma.
I was deeply saddened when I read about that tiger. I don't think killing it was necessary. I think the police got too excited.
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From the relived column except for ROWR.
Sister was in Samoa for the Peace Corp and as she has a gift for gab , learned SAMOAN. That tidbit and a guess at STEWIE got me through the swamp of the Southwest.
Much fill the MOSSY set should get... and my Atomic Chart place mat sure came in handy.
Look its Hester Prynne! A red letter day.
Thank you Alex.
Sister was in Samoa for the Peace Corp and as she has a gift for gab , learned SAMOAN. That tidbit and a guess at STEWIE got me through the swamp of the Southwest.
Much fill the MOSSY set should get... and my Atomic Chart place mat sure came in handy.
Look its Hester Prynne! A red letter day.
Thank you Alex.
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Final score: Constructors 2, Solvers 0.
I only know that "Family Guy" is a TV show, but from the "real word" crosses Brian's pal could only be STEVIE or STEWIE. ROWR didn't please me, but it seemed a better bet than ROVR (letters on a cheap brandy label?).
For solvers, a Themeless Thursday.
I only know that "Family Guy" is a TV show, but from the "real word" crosses Brian's pal could only be STEVIE or STEWIE. ROWR didn't please me, but it seemed a better bet than ROVR (letters on a cheap brandy label?).
For solvers, a Themeless Thursday.
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ROVR: Variation of a common dog's name seems almost as plausible as ROWR for "Hey there, tiger!"
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Impressive feats of construction don't always produce enjoyable puzzles for solvers, IMHO.
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ROVR could be something like "social media site for dogs?" Because TUMBLR, FLICKR, IMGUR.
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Didn't love the puzzle, but I thought it had some merit. I actually liked ROWR. Thought it was an imaginative clue. And whether the vast storehouses of entomological research on the word support the alternative RAWR spelling is a serious debate mankind can have after we deal with all the hurricanes and stuff.
Also liked BOOYAH, which was, among other things, a fun, well-known signature catchphrase of the late ESPN Anchor Stuart Scott: https://youtu.be/kOWM_VuxxQ0
And the theme did aid me in filling out some of the answers. So on the whole, I thought it a solid, but not elegant, Thursday.
Also liked BOOYAH, which was, among other things, a fun, well-known signature catchphrase of the late ESPN Anchor Stuart Scott: https://youtu.be/kOWM_VuxxQ0
And the theme did aid me in filling out some of the answers. So on the whole, I thought it a solid, but not elegant, Thursday.
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I just figured out why that bit about 'entomological research' was bugging me.
Spellcheck, CT?
Spellcheck, CT?
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I meant Autocorrect, not Spellcheck, CT!
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
Etymological, indeed! :)
The question with stunt puzzles like this, for me, is -- was it still a good solve? And for me, it was, overall. The NE corner was very tough for me, not knowing CITO, CLAUDIA, or how to spell EYDIE, and with close to opaque cluing for me. The rest of the puzzle took some wrestling as well. I like when a puzzle is like this, if it's fair. The only places which didn't seem fair was the crossing of CITO and CLAUDIA, which was a genuine Natick for me (but there's that nagging voice inside that insists I should have known Lady Bird's real name), and the STEWIE/ROWR cross (and see @Wen's excellent patch for that earlier). But the rest of the puzzle had so many ohs and ahas that the overall feeling I have for this puzzle is gratitude.
Oh, that cross of COURTING and SHAGS seemed pretty darn incompatible.
I'm glad the puzzle has a CHILL out, a reminder of the importance of puzzles in the overall scheme of life, and a RAINS to remind us to send our thoughts and help, however we can, to those in the big storm down there (not to mention the previous one).
Oh, that cross of COURTING and SHAGS seemed pretty darn incompatible.
I'm glad the puzzle has a CHILL out, a reminder of the importance of puzzles in the overall scheme of life, and a RAINS to remind us to send our thoughts and help, however we can, to those in the big storm down there (not to mention the previous one).
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I agree -- a good solve, overall. Interesting and clever, even if the theme was underwhelming. Now I'll get back to hurricane prep.
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Agreed.
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Like others, ROWR had me growling. I knew it had to right with no idea of why. Finally recognizing the theme, I was able to correct an error in the NW and move forward.
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Got the whole thing but I'm not a public figures guy. Maybe politicians, but relatively obscure baseball managers or not-well-known singers from the 60s? I sort it out when they cross clues more suited to my brain. On the bright side I can listen to Eydie Gorme today and broaden my horizons a bit. Overall I liked the theme but found the puzzle weirdly clunky.
Looked up Eydie Gorme on Wikipedia today just for kicks and learned a few things. Born Edith Gormezano. She and Steve Lawrence were married back in '57 and remained together until she died in '13. Both were from Jewish families. Her father was from Sicily and her mother was from Turkey. Their eldest son composed the score for High School Musical (which I gather was a popular movie a few years back).
They were lampooned on SNL by Mike Myers and Victoria Jackson. Possibly one of the funniest bits that Jackson ever did. Which isn't saying much because she is a talentless hack who had no business being on television.
They were lampooned on SNL by Mike Myers and Victoria Jackson. Possibly one of the funniest bits that Jackson ever did. Which isn't saying much because she is a talentless hack who had no business being on television.
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"she is a talentless hack"
To be clear, I mean Victoria Jackson. Eydie Gorme was a brilliant entertainer and had more talent in her baby toenail than Jackson had throughout her short, dreary career.
To be clear, I mean Victoria Jackson. Eydie Gorme was a brilliant entertainer and had more talent in her baby toenail than Jackson had throughout her short, dreary career.
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Boo on ROWR.
Love the music clips embedded in the Wordplay column. Almost makes up for ROWR. But not quite.
Love the music clips embedded in the Wordplay column. Almost makes up for ROWR. But not quite.
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Didn't notice the theme until I was done and looked back at 1D, filled via crosses, and wondered what it meant. I was too focused on the trees to see the forest.
From some reason this did not post earlier, so I'm tryimg again. I apologize in advance if the lost one pops up eventually.
Here's a moving version of "ROWR":
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lnG3MKos87A
Here's a moving version of "ROWR":
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lnG3MKos87A
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Hey, that's in my town. Beautiful video!
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Nice one, PfP! I hadn't realized, but apparently, this has become a fairly popular thing for hospitals to do. I did know that, about 6 years ago, McGill did a pretty ambitious lipdub for Cancer Research. I thought it an awfully attractive bunch of young people, but really admired the senior citizens. And did I ever envy those good-looking labs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1yw8D3glE
ps: Watch for the out-takes during the final credits!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg1yw8D3glE
ps: Watch for the out-takes during the final credits!
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Oh, I love the McGill video! Much more professional, yet still as joyous. The out-takes are a hoot.
(I think the video that may have started that trend is the one done to the song "Stronger.")
This is truly tangential, but on the theme of hospitals...this is a first-year doctor doing a funny take on "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Miserable. He did a collection of these things to raise money for charity. It's made the rounds online, but some may not know it:
http://www.independent.ie/videos/entertainment/watch-junior-doctors-hila...
(I think the video that may have started that trend is the one done to the song "Stronger.")
This is truly tangential, but on the theme of hospitals...this is a first-year doctor doing a funny take on "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Miserable. He did a collection of these things to raise money for charity. It's made the rounds online, but some may not know it:
http://www.independent.ie/videos/entertainment/watch-junior-doctors-hila...
Congratulations to the constructor - not the solver. Themes shouldn't require secondary reading to determine what they are.
BTW, a bridge OVERBID is a cue bid or indication; it has nothing to do with optimism or being wrong. "Bridge indicator?" would have been a better clue.
BTW, a bridge OVERBID is a cue bid or indication; it has nothing to do with optimism or being wrong. "Bridge indicator?" would have been a better clue.
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I have a hazy recollection of a bridge column in The Times...
(No Trump)
(No Trump)
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"It's not too often that we have to...cite Urban Dictionary"? Urban Dictionary has been provided far too much puzzle content lately, in my opinion.
Now that I've read the constructor note, I see that the grid was far more complex than I noticed while filling it. So, kudos on that. Not seeing the alphabet pattern, I approached this as a themeless puzzle. I did miss the Thursday gimmick. I like a good rebus.
It's nice to see SAMOANs the day after MAORI. Since I posted a Maori group yesterday, how about some Samoan music?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUDN7iQ6riI
Boo on BOOYA. Too bro.
I tried ILLBEBACK before ILLSEEYOU. I think that's a sign we've had a lot of pop culture clues and entries in the past weeks! Now I have Arnie's voice lurking in my head.
One thing: farmyard "adjunct" is a strange word choice for STY. I could see annex or add-on working there, but I the word used.
Now that I've read the constructor note, I see that the grid was far more complex than I noticed while filling it. So, kudos on that. Not seeing the alphabet pattern, I approached this as a themeless puzzle. I did miss the Thursday gimmick. I like a good rebus.
It's nice to see SAMOANs the day after MAORI. Since I posted a Maori group yesterday, how about some Samoan music?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUDN7iQ6riI
Boo on BOOYA. Too bro.
I tried ILLBEBACK before ILLSEEYOU. I think that's a sign we've had a lot of pop culture clues and entries in the past weeks! Now I have Arnie's voice lurking in my head.
One thing: farmyard "adjunct" is a strange word choice for STY. I could see annex or add-on working there, but I the word used.
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"One thing: farmyard "adjunct" is a strange word choice for STY."
Barnyard "adjunct" works if our constructor and editors are gentlemen farmers, for whom raising hogs (or anything else) is optional.
Barnyard "adjunct" works if our constructor and editors are gentlemen farmers, for whom raising hogs (or anything else) is optional.
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Barry, what you said reminds me of a quote I saw in the NY Times yesterday by a man named Steven Gaines.
“God has given you too much money when you have someone else tend your vegetable garden.”
Here's the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/dining/hamptons-vegetable-gardens.html
“God has given you too much money when you have someone else tend your vegetable garden.”
Here's the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/dining/hamptons-vegetable-gardens.html
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I had read it with a mixture of amusement and horror, Wen.
(Bespoke vegetables)
(Bespoke vegetables)
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Guy here. Never once said BOOYAH. Never will.
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Rawr before ROWR here, too. I'm in the curmudgeon group on this puzzle.
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Recent college grad here who made the same error and has never heard of ROWR before. Maybe I'm just not hip.
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Desperate times, desperate measures. Constructor does computer search for clue to fit difficult sequence of letters?
I've never seen it before, either.
I've never seen it before, either.
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and Elke
Ever mindful of grandmotherly sayings , I did notice:
Santa's greeting in row 26A, to wit :
HOI ; HOOT ; HOT.
BOOYAH
Tee HEE HEE
I'LL SEE YOU.
Ever mindful of grandmotherly sayings , I did notice:
Santa's greeting in row 26A, to wit :
HOI ; HOOT ; HOT.
BOOYAH
Tee HEE HEE
I'LL SEE YOU.
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ROWR? No. Just no.
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It was ok - a little IFI. I'd be lying if I said I ADORE IT. But given the constraint of the gimmick, I guess it could have been worse. It was a bit tough and took longer than I expected.
I didn't like: VSO, TIEA, IFI, ROWR.
I didn't know: BBL (had BAR, BRL), EYDIE, COE, CITO
I forgot NEMEA - I knew I'd seen it relatively recently, but couldn't remember it. It last came up only 2 months ago - https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=7/8/2017&g=61&d=A
re: ROWR - I had RAWR first too.
I think that SW corner could've been:
64A STEELE (remington, michael)
65A YEASTS
56D ROES
45D COBALT (to go with YTTRIUM, yay!)
The alphabetical order would've been maintained too.
I didn't like: VSO, TIEA, IFI, ROWR.
I didn't know: BBL (had BAR, BRL), EYDIE, COE, CITO
I forgot NEMEA - I knew I'd seen it relatively recently, but couldn't remember it. It last came up only 2 months ago - https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=7/8/2017&g=61&d=A
re: ROWR - I had RAWR first too.
I think that SW corner could've been:
64A STEELE (remington, michael)
65A YEASTS
56D ROES
45D COBALT (to go with YTTRIUM, yay!)
The alphabetical order would've been maintained too.
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Nice fix, Wen!
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Kept waiting for the theme to emerge. I didn't notice the alphabetic sequence in rows until I got to wordplay. Count me among the disappointed. And I agree that ROWR is an abomination.
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ROWR is only a thing if you're a constructor and you're stuck with a --WR situation that you can't get out of. It's never that you have to cite Urban Dictionary, which is an unregulated mess. ROWR is a piece of creative onomatopoeia that doesn't rise to the level of real word--at least not yet in 2017.
Perhaps this joyless slog would have best been left on the cutting room floor.
Perhaps this joyless slog would have best been left on the cutting room floor.
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Harsh!
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Agreed. But not incorrect.
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Loved it! Well done.
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STE?IE x RO?R
A pop culture reference crossing an iffy slang word.
(Grrr.)
It just had to be ROAR, it just HAD to be. But STEAIE was obviously nothing.
(Grrr.)
Once I downloaded the Across Lite version, confirmed everything else was correct, and ran the alphabet to W, I managed to finish. Which is to say, not everyone knows STEWIE, and not everyone knows ROWR (I word I can truly do without). That's where my wheelhouse fell short on this one.
So I'm in my curmudgeon corner today, but I won't throw stones. As long as you kids keep off my lawn!
A pop culture reference crossing an iffy slang word.
(Grrr.)
It just had to be ROAR, it just HAD to be. But STEAIE was obviously nothing.
(Grrr.)
Once I downloaded the Across Lite version, confirmed everything else was correct, and ran the alphabet to W, I managed to finish. Which is to say, not everyone knows STEWIE, and not everyone knows ROWR (I word I can truly do without). That's where my wheelhouse fell short on this one.
So I'm in my curmudgeon corner today, but I won't throw stones. As long as you kids keep off my lawn!
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I was ok with Stewie - Family Guy is pretty popular. Maybe not as much as say, Homer or Bart. I never watch Family Guy and I still knew of Stewie and Brian (though just barely).
ROWR I had a problem with. In comics I think it's usually spelled RAWR as a sound, usually uttered by female characters, to convey that they think something is sexy. Spelling and obscurity kind of killed it for me.
ROWR I had a problem with. In comics I think it's usually spelled RAWR as a sound, usually uttered by female characters, to convey that they think something is sexy. Spelling and obscurity kind of killed it for me.
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RiA's avatar was Brian, once upon a time. I'm not a Simpsons or Family Guy kind of gal, in general, but that was my intro to STEWIE, and I have to admit he's fairly iconic.
We've had BIceps and TRIceps, but [with that football-shaped head] STEWIE must have been a FOURceps delivery.
Poor Lois.
We've had BIceps and TRIceps, but [with that football-shaped head] STEWIE must have been a FOURceps delivery.
Poor Lois.
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I also remembered RiA's long-ago avatar, but not his name. And that is the only thing I ever knew about "Family Guy."
Hate this kind of gimmick. The constructor is showing off, not considering the solver. And what's with ROWR?
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had no trouble. liked ASTERS best as late bloomers. They are just coming into the garden now along with the chrysanthemums and sedum. They like all the rain this summer!
Us dinosaur-type aminals say Rawr not Rowr, but I guess tigers are a different kind of deal.
Just talking about Tina Fey a day or two ago, since we share a home town (by the strangest coincidence, there are four people here where I work that are from that same town, though it be far, far away).
The "old in Oldenburg" clue was just a little off for me. Should have read "alt" in my Buch.
I'm fairly sure there will be a number of opinions here to the effect that this was a prime example of the "constructor's puzzle." Let mine be one of the first.
Im Westen nichts Neues.
Just talking about Tina Fey a day or two ago, since we share a home town (by the strangest coincidence, there are four people here where I work that are from that same town, though it be far, far away).
The "old in Oldenburg" clue was just a little off for me. Should have read "alt" in my Buch.
I'm fairly sure there will be a number of opinions here to the effect that this was a prime example of the "constructor's puzzle." Let mine be one of the first.
Im Westen nichts Neues.
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You're suggesting , "Opposite of alt, in Altenburg," I assume.
Maybe the meat-eating dinosaurs and the tigers of today say ROWR when their mouths are full of other animals?
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David. Why do you object to: “Opposite of old in Oldenberg”?. The only reason I can think of is that is an indirect clue: Opposite of old -> new -> NEU.
If indirect clues like this are verboten, how could Will Shortz have accepted it?
If not, in what way is it a little off?
If indirect clues like this are verboten, how could Will Shortz have accepted it?
If not, in what way is it a little off?
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"solution to the rebus puzzle: GLO" and "solution to the rebus puzzle: TMY"
I solved them by filling them in from opposite directions, but I don't understand them, even after seeing the solutions. AND IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS! Please help.