President Trump did not mean what he read from the tele-prompter. If he really means what he said on Monday, from now on, whenever he has campaign style speech, he has to ask form the crowed, that he wants any bigoted, and racist K.K.K., neo-Nazis and white supremacists's supporters to get out of that place, before he start address them.
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What defeated the white supremacist confederates?
An army made up of white and black Americans.
What defeated the white supremacists nazis?
Armies from all over the world made up of many nationalities and colors.
And what will keep on defeating them?
All humans, of all colors, standing in solidarity against hate.
Against such an army, the Alt Klux Klan doesn't stand a chance.
An army made up of white and black Americans.
What defeated the white supremacists nazis?
Armies from all over the world made up of many nationalities and colors.
And what will keep on defeating them?
All humans, of all colors, standing in solidarity against hate.
Against such an army, the Alt Klux Klan doesn't stand a chance.
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Mr. Trump may say what is politically correct when prompted but his tweets reveal what he really feels about feminism, racism, sexual preference, and religion. A man willing to sacrifice the regious beliefs of his daughter and her family. A man that does not honor the sacrafices made by many Americans who fought and died in WW II.
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It pained him to read the statement concocted by his political damage control advisors. The body language and the clenched teeth say it all. He didn't believe one word reluctantly straining to escape his mouth.
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Trump is still dancing around. He said, “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the K.K.K., neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”
So only those who cause violence? This is what's so frustrating about this president he parses every word, and his ignorant minions get a totally different message.
So only those who cause violence? This is what's so frustrating about this president he parses every word, and his ignorant minions get a totally different message.
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I wonder if Trump understands he is in a flaming downward spiral with the RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION? Similar to many sociopathic "leaders" Comrade Trump appears to be in a rush to cause as much long lasting damage as possible prior to his expiration date. Comrade Trump has always acted out much like a firebug acts out; he sets FIRES here there & everywhere for perverse attention and malignant satisfaction. In the end, every firebug who is not stopped, sets off an unmerciful explosion. Trump knows, he knows he is going down . . . and that the rule of law WILL prevail.
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NYT, time to move on to North Korea issues now. Throw no more red meat for the zoo animals - this story, too, will soon be forgotten.
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Trump never shows restraint. He is incapable of thoughtful actions. He trashed Merck & Co. Chief Executive Kenneth Frazier within minutes of his resigning but took more than 48 hours to condemn those responsible for the violence in Charleville.
White Supremacy Groups have a friend in the WHITE house.
Trump will kick Ivanka under the bus to keep his base happy. His Statement on the tragedy in Charlottesville was beyond transparent. Trump fuels the hatred of White Supremacy Groups.
We keep removing symbols of racism and we're renovating the WHITE house? Trump just wants the smell of Obama out of the oval office. Trump is the real nightmare of our time. If we don't take action we will betray our children for years to come. They deserve our resolve to really drain the swamp. There is a big fat whale stuck in the sewer.
White Supremacy Groups have a friend in the WHITE house.
Trump will kick Ivanka under the bus to keep his base happy. His Statement on the tragedy in Charlottesville was beyond transparent. Trump fuels the hatred of White Supremacy Groups.
We keep removing symbols of racism and we're renovating the WHITE house? Trump just wants the smell of Obama out of the oval office. Trump is the real nightmare of our time. If we don't take action we will betray our children for years to come. They deserve our resolve to really drain the swamp. There is a big fat whale stuck in the sewer.
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Too little, too late.
Clearly not heartfelt. He only grudgingly conceded to make a more forceful statement days later, after he was backed into a corner. Anyone who does not instantly condemn Nazis and white supremacists is one of them.
Our president is a racist and a bigot, a petulant child in command of the nuclear codes, and obviously mentally unstable ego maniac.
He reads nothing (can he even read?), understands nothing (except self aggrandizement and greed), has zero understanding of history and has no context of how our country functions in the global environment.
How in the world have we come to this?
Clearly not heartfelt. He only grudgingly conceded to make a more forceful statement days later, after he was backed into a corner. Anyone who does not instantly condemn Nazis and white supremacists is one of them.
Our president is a racist and a bigot, a petulant child in command of the nuclear codes, and obviously mentally unstable ego maniac.
He reads nothing (can he even read?), understands nothing (except self aggrandizement and greed), has zero understanding of history and has no context of how our country functions in the global environment.
How in the world have we come to this?
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Trump's reponse to criticism of his late inclusion of the alt-right in his blame obfuscation was:
Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!
This will be reapeated by his true believers of more proof liberal bias
His very late response was NOT a clarification of an inadvertant omission. It was a FLIP FLOP of his original intended message attempting to shift blame. It was a scripted appeasement of his handlers and obviouslya very painful concession. He looked like a tortured prisoner reading a script provided by his captors.
Made additional remarks on Charlottesville and realize once again that the #Fake News Media will never be satisfied...truly bad people!
This will be reapeated by his true believers of more proof liberal bias
His very late response was NOT a clarification of an inadvertant omission. It was a FLIP FLOP of his original intended message attempting to shift blame. It was a scripted appeasement of his handlers and obviouslya very painful concession. He looked like a tortured prisoner reading a script provided by his captors.
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Trump has no moral standing, but plenty immoral standing.
I am a libertarian board-certified psychiatrist.
Trump is not psychotic, but he is crazy.
I am a libertarian board-certified psychiatrist.
Trump is not psychotic, but he is crazy.
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I wasn't aware that Trump had any moral standing left as president on which to self-inflict damage.
Interesting insight, NYTimes.
Interesting insight, NYTimes.
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Where was John Kelly during all of this?
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Trump took the same amount of time and prodding during the campaign to rebuke David Duke and neo-Nazis. . .he claimed to be unaware of anything regarding the KKK.
Now, we see the same behavior from Trump.
Trump's administration has become a national disgrace and the GOPs enabling is destroying the very foundation of the USA. Unfortunately, too many in the USA are willingly suspending reality and accepting the behavior of this administration.
There are far too many challenges facing the USA to allow this entire administration, Trump, Pence, and the leadership in GOP, to continue beyond 2 years. The mid-term elections will either be a life line or the final nail in coffin of the USA currently under construction by Trump, et al.
Now, we see the same behavior from Trump.
Trump's administration has become a national disgrace and the GOPs enabling is destroying the very foundation of the USA. Unfortunately, too many in the USA are willingly suspending reality and accepting the behavior of this administration.
There are far too many challenges facing the USA to allow this entire administration, Trump, Pence, and the leadership in GOP, to continue beyond 2 years. The mid-term elections will either be a life line or the final nail in coffin of the USA currently under construction by Trump, et al.
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People just can't accept the fact that there are actually hate groups on both sides. They might not have been on full display in this Charlottesville, but recall that President Obama found it very hard to condemn the "troubled individual" who shot 4 or 5 Dallas police officers. Left leaning groups running around calling for dead cops is a real issue. Trump's timing might have been defective, but we absolutely need to address hate from all sides of the political spectrum. The hatred that people have for Trump personally is blinding them to the fact that there are despicable characters of all political persuasions.
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Really? How about outrage at the media (all sides) for promoting this event and the Charlottesville police chief for not having the common sense to defuse this 'gathering' long before it took place.
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"Mr. Trump, after two days of issuing equivocal statements, bowed to overwhelming pressure that he personally condemn white supremacists who incited bloody weekend demonstrations in Charlottesville." - Glenn Trush - NYT.
The problem with the original statement by President Trump was he condemned all violence by all groups and individuals. This was not politically correct for the conservative Democrats and the conservative Republicans. The conservative leadership in both parties and their supporters demanded that he only condemn any group that could be associated Caucasians !?
The problem with the original statement by President Trump was he condemned all violence by all groups and individuals. This was not politically correct for the conservative Democrats and the conservative Republicans. The conservative leadership in both parties and their supporters demanded that he only condemn any group that could be associated Caucasians !?
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Wow. Everyday there seems to be drama after drama from this garbage administration. Trump is so full of himself spouting "fake news" every time there's negative coverage about him and his administration. The definition of "man-child" reflects Trump fittingly since he acts like a spoiled child each day. And his right-wing supporters are especially to blame for creating the carnage in Virginia since many of these torch bearing white nationalists thrives on Trump's America since they are openly racist. And what I find most ridiculous about Trump is his new 2020 re-election campaign ad saying that Democrats are "obstructing" when it's clear the GOP already has the majority in the house and senate so that's clearly a lie and that Trump is riding on the coattail of Obama's economy, taking credit from him when it's clear Trump has passed no substantial legislation that affects the economy.
Trump is the worst president ever in U.S. history.
Trump is the worst president ever in U.S. history.
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Trump looks so smug. He already knew that he "... could shoot someone and not lose any votes", but now he knows that he can run them over with a car too.
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Donald is not a leader: he is led. His statements make clear that he does not oppose ethnic cleansing (even if he's never heard the term). He is like Mr. Potatohead: there is no there there, just a bobblehead, flailing hands, and an ability to read whatever message he is told to read that suits the political needs of the moment. He has no views, no philosophy. Nothing matters to him except him. Even his commitment to family is a myth: What man would not speak out passionately if the religion of his daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren were slandered. That's not the demented man in the White House. He doesn't even have a hint of his own vileness.
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Look...this is simple. Donald Trump is a racist, a misogynist, a liar, a narcissist and a man of low intelligence. Why beat around the bush. I will not shop or buy from any company currently on his council.
I implore the rest to do the same. Democracy works both in the voting booth and in our wallets.
I implore the rest to do the same. Democracy works both in the voting booth and in our wallets.
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What moral standing does someone who proudly proclaims that he gets away with sexual assault have?
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Why do we keep advising Trump on how to behave? It is naive to think this ignorant and dangerous man will listen. Now he is getting information about the protestors at Charlottesville. Do I need to say more?
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He has failed to indicate the slightest interest in preventing another incident like Charlottesville from occurring. To me, that's 1.) proof positive of his insincerity and 2). strong evidence of his own racist/extremist beliefs 3). proof of his unfitness for any public office, let alone the presidency 4). dereliction of duty, in his failure to defend the Constitutional rights of US citizens and 5) the need for his swift removal from office, along with the rest of his supremely toxic administration.
It has only been a short while, but we will have a lot of work to do to put this nation back together. The sooner we get started, the better.
It has only been a short while, but we will have a lot of work to do to put this nation back together. The sooner we get started, the better.
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The puppet master Putin is getting a lotta BANG for his bucks.
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He has to be told what is right by thousands of other people, and be brought to recognize the risk it brings himself, before he'll attempt to do it. He apparently never thinks about what his actions do others. All of his statements lack depth - they come off as insincere and rehearsed. The shallowness of his perceptions and understandings undermines everything we have ever been and destroys the future.
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There may be no moral high ground in the wrestling pit of this particular White house, but in Charlottesville there were two clear sides: The right side and the wrong one.
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Day late and a dollar short, he doesn't want tick off some of his supporters or guys like David Duke.
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Lots of comments saying that Trump was insincere. Probably so, but let's assume, for a moment, that he was telling the truth.
If so, Trump likely forgot that the KKK good ol' boys are rabid 2nd Amendment rights advocates, who don't take kindly to traitors.
If so, Trump likely forgot that the KKK good ol' boys are rabid 2nd Amendment rights advocates, who don't take kindly to traitors.
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To Brian Krzanich and Ken Fraizer: Thank you for having the guts and integrity to stand up to the bully in the White House.
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This guy Trump has either sold his soul to the devil or he is mentally ill. What's it going to take????
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Every day 1,000 infants and little kids die of diarrhea, starvation, and malnutrition. Almost no politician condemns, on a daily basis, that 1,000 infants and little kids die of diarrhea, starvation, and malnutrition, every day. Still, that doesn't mean most politicians support 1,000 infants and little kids dying of diarrhea, starvation, and malnutrition every day.
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This incident in Charlottesville gives his enemies and detractors more ammunition to criticize and defame him. Nothing not even his making a trip to Charlottesville and visiting with the victims would make a difference. They enjoy hating him and it has become an obsession. This is very unhealthy.
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It is pitiful that the waffling little cult leader , Richard Spencer, has now become an apologist and "interpreter" for Trump. I seem to have read somewhere in my studies of hate groups like his, that they vow to "take down" (this means kill), FIRST AND FOREMOST, anyone who speaks out against them and denounces them. He must be nervous that his peeps now perhaps expect him to follow through. Trump may be a waffler too, but anyone who believes his recent, belated strong statements denouncing these hate groups is "kumbaya", - well, they are - in Spencers own words the "dumb persons".
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When he finally got around to the lukewarm "rebuke" that was uncharacteristically fully on script, if I was not mistaken, I think I could see him blinking "Save Me Steve Bannon" in Morse Code.
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Oh, how true the words of HRC...."Trump and his deplorables"....... She knew before everyone else......The Deplorables support him, and he supports them!! I hope this country has the backbone to stand up and defend our constitution. Let us save it from those who want to destroy it, internally as well as externally!
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They had to twist his arm to make him say murder is wrong ... and he wouldn't even say that.
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I took a look at The Daily Stormer before it went down. I was shocked to read so much hate. And they felt vindicated by President Trump's remarks on Saturday. I hope the GOP will send Trump at least a serious warning this time.
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I would like to hear Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr. defend their father.........
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He is 'uncomfortable' in downright condemning the racist, bigoted KKKers, Neo-Nazis and the extreme rightists. Uncomfortable to rebuke strongly and two days, what was naked evil? Wow! And this is our own President! God help us, our Democracy and our country!
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'Trump Bowing to Pressure.' The media will do everything they can to down this President. As an example, the headline chosen here by The Times cuts away at Trump by choosing the present participle: bowing. Is this fair, accurate or media bias to tar & feather the man. I for one don't buy the innuendo as further evidence of 'fake news'.
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Yet he still snuck in 'and other groups', at the end. Weasel words, no? What other groups was he equating the Nazis to?
He is still dog-whistling.
He is still dog-whistling.
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Hillary repeatedly warned us by way of Maya Angelou that when someone shows you who they are, believe them. The first time!
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It is obvious that this self-destructive person is not going to last for 4 years. An I'm sure Mr. Muller is working as fast as possible to save us from this megalomaniac.
But my message to all Trump supporters is this, You put this in unqualified child in the seat now you will live with the conquincenes. From here on out, any person I know friend or family who supported Trump will not receive any, any consideration from me now or in the future. How could you have made such a stupid decision.
But my message to all Trump supporters is this, You put this in unqualified child in the seat now you will live with the conquincenes. From here on out, any person I know friend or family who supported Trump will not receive any, any consideration from me now or in the future. How could you have made such a stupid decision.
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By the dawn's early light( what a beautiful sight): liberals' heads exploding!
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Moral standing??? He's one of the most immoral people I've ever witnessed, public or private.
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The base is shrinking. It has to. When the next protest erupts in violence, the president will have two choices: He can send a tweet saying "why can't we all get along" or he can send in the troops. Neither will go well for him.
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Presidents come to office to make the American people lives better. They come to solve our problems, all kind of issues to be tackled and finding solutions.
With the 45th POTUS, Donald J. Trump, it has become apparent that he, 45, is a problem and a big one at that.
45 doesn't want to govern, he thrives in a circus. 45 is in his environment, where it is all about himself.
I don't see how "Make America Great Again" has a chance to happen. It is more like "Break up America the Great."
With the 45th POTUS, Donald J. Trump, it has become apparent that he, 45, is a problem and a big one at that.
45 doesn't want to govern, he thrives in a circus. 45 is in his environment, where it is all about himself.
I don't see how "Make America Great Again" has a chance to happen. It is more like "Break up America the Great."
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I sure hope no communists are on any wh payrolls either
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Love the wording in the subheading to this piece: "his moral standing as President." What moral standing? He is amoral. He's a living, breathing id. Sex and aggression, his only goals.
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Trump is quick to counter attack. Does not let things linger. So why is he So quiet about David Dukes remarkes? Why Can't Trump come out and say David Duke and the People that follow him are bad for America? Because they all voted for him ya think? Can't upset the base!
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I'm confused: when did anyone think that this president had any "moral standing" to begin with?
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Trump is such a Cretin. When will he ever take responsibility for the things he does and does not do? When he should speak out, he won't. When he ought to hold his tongue, he will not. Some CEO he is. What kind of business does he think he is running? Get with the program, Donald! Be a Man. Do the right thing here. Denounce hatred & intolerance of all kinds. And don't wait for someone to tell you the right thing to do. That is, of course, unless you ARE a bigot..........(based on your documented history, I believe you are.) That behavior will not be tolerated, no matter who demonstrates it.
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Trump wants foreign born bad hombres deported. Time to round up neo nazis and return them to germany. Lets hear Trumo say that!
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Of all the stories and op ed pieces I've read about this, and the comments that accompany them, I've yet to read anything that ponders why so few women attend neo-Nazi, white nationalist rallies. I saw one in a sea of pale male faces. This seems to be significant. White nationalists don't appear to openly target women. Is this because the little woman at home supports them? Because they feel so manly that they don't need to stoop to address women at all? Because onlookers might think them wusses if they "allowed" women to accompany them? Because the women affiliated with these cretins don't want public exposure?
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The best thing to do when white supremacists demonstrate is STAY HOME. If there is no one at their demonstration, then the more irrelevant they become.
On the other hand their is far too much "antifa" violence in this country as well. The Antifa's are just as intolerant, and many times as violent and stupid as the racists; and their behavior should be condemned also.
On the other hand their is far too much "antifa" violence in this country as well. The Antifa's are just as intolerant, and many times as violent and stupid as the racists; and their behavior should be condemned also.
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There are no accidents, Comrade Trump. In TRUTH, you are a man without a country, and a man without a country is a man without a future. YOU are a moral refugee. In TRUTH, you have always been no more than a moral refugee.
The entire planet now knows exactly what Comrade Trump is: hateful, vengeful. racist, facist, misogynist, and un-American. Our beautiful country, our hard fought democracy, and our blood stained battle fields are desecrated by your very presence. Our country's children are reviled by your hateful words and tweets. "Donald Trump is a bad man."
America is too good for you, Comrade Trump.
The entire planet now knows exactly what Comrade Trump is: hateful, vengeful. racist, facist, misogynist, and un-American. Our beautiful country, our hard fought democracy, and our blood stained battle fields are desecrated by your very presence. Our country's children are reviled by your hateful words and tweets. "Donald Trump is a bad man."
America is too good for you, Comrade Trump.
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"Even Mr. Trump’s allies worried that his measured remarks... came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."
You can't damage something that doesn't exist.
You can't damage something that doesn't exist.
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Trump has no "moral standing"
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On 9/11 I remember waking early putting on the morning news and watching in utter horror with the first of the twin towers aflame. I could not process what my eyes saw but thought this must be a very horrible accident. I saw live the second tower hit by a plane and felt the instant recognition that what I was watching was not an accident but something far more horrible. A deliberate insane attack that was hard to immediately comprehend with ones senses. Over the past few days I have been trying to make sense of what I have been watching over the past year. Insane as it has felt at times I never really felt in my gut that I was watching much more than vicious win at all costs partisan politics. Since Charlottesville however, I have felt like I did seeing the second plane in real time with my own two eyes. Where you realize in a flash and deep inside that the insanity is not an accident. It is by design and it is something more dark and sinister that has the potential to change things in this country in a very profound and destructive way.
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LOL, the Democratic party cares more about some stupid little thing the president says than what's happening to working people. This is why they'll continue to lose elections. They didn't learn that they're Obama coalition stayed home. Neoliberal spoiled brats. The boutique party of fake outrage.
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This is the latest NY Times anti Trump nonsense. The presidents first comments castigated everyone involved because all of them were at fault in the violence which broke out. Huge manufactured uproar so Trump hones his displeasure with the right wing demonstrators calling them out by name while neglecting to name the left wing who came to do battle. NY Times and the media still not satisfied of course. They will never be while Republican administration occupies the White House.
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It could not be any clearer -- independent of Mueller's vital investigation -- that a moral deformity occupies the White House. Let's see if the Republican Congress finally separates itself from the ethical black hole at the center of our government.
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El Presidente cracked out of turn, and showed everyone who he was. Blurting, instinct, impulse, what-have-you, everything this guy is came through loud and clear during statement numero uno.
There's a saying in psychotherapy, "if you don't WORK it out, you'll ACT it out". As one ages the self-censoring mechanisms break down and 'it' begins to leak out all over the place.
Patching it over ain't gonna hide it. The lie comes second, and that's last place in a one-horse race.
There's a saying in psychotherapy, "if you don't WORK it out, you'll ACT it out". As one ages the self-censoring mechanisms break down and 'it' begins to leak out all over the place.
Patching it over ain't gonna hide it. The lie comes second, and that's last place in a one-horse race.
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For some reason I don't buy your spin that he is bowing to anyone or anything.
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Can we please stop calling them the "Alt-Right"?
They carry Nazi flags, give Nazi salutes and are driven by Nazi doctrines.
THEY ARE THE NAZI PARTY OF AMERICA!!!
Call a duck a duck and stop pandering and minimalizing who they REALLY are.
They carry Nazi flags, give Nazi salutes and are driven by Nazi doctrines.
THEY ARE THE NAZI PARTY OF AMERICA!!!
Call a duck a duck and stop pandering and minimalizing who they REALLY are.
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In less than an hour our president criticizes a CEO who criticized him. But when it comes to denouncing the KKK and Neo Nazis we hear the sound of crickets for two days.
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I believe that an extensive, legitimate investigation will show that the left wing extremists deliberately precipitated the violence. I also believe that if this is the case, the Times will never report the truth because that's not the story it wants to promote. Such biased, irresponsible journalism is stoking the flames of hatred and is far more harmful to national unity than a fringe group of mindless, miscreants who have no influence on or support from the vast majority of the people. Many responsible, patriotic Americans who can see through your blatant propaganda and warped agenda, while not espousing extreme views, are becoming angry that your incessant, one direction attacks threaten to destroy what they and their ancestors struggled and sacrificed to achieve. I knew this contaminated piece of trash was coming as soon President Trump finished his speech.
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That grimace on his face in the picture on the front page shows how much he hated saying white supremacists are evil. He is that hollow.
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Yes, he sure did. And it was too little, too weak, and too late. Then he re-tweeted a white supremacist's tweet on violence in Chicago and another cartoon of a CNN reporter getting run over by a truck. Richard Spencer has said that he did not take this idiots condemnation seriously. No one has. It was forced. His initial remarks shows exactly who he is and what an American president NEVER should be. And that is a Nazi sympathizing coward and traitor.
In Germany after the war, they went through a denazification and banned all Nazi symbols, icons, emblems, insignias, flags, statues, anything that represented the Nazi Party and outlawed and destroyed them. We should have done that here after the Civil War with the Confederacy and must do it now for all of the above. This stain cannot be allowed to stand any longer.
In Germany after the war, they went through a denazification and banned all Nazi symbols, icons, emblems, insignias, flags, statues, anything that represented the Nazi Party and outlawed and destroyed them. We should have done that here after the Civil War with the Confederacy and must do it now for all of the above. This stain cannot be allowed to stand any longer.
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Saturday was a turning point. There is simply no way Trump is fit to be President anymore. We thought that point was the Access Hollywood tapes (before he was President!)... Saturday has shown Trump to be at best a moral coward, at worst to be emboldening and perhaps leading fascists, KKK and Nazis. He cannot continue to lead this country down the darkest path that he has chosen.
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What he said Monday is disgustingly insincere when he retweets a white supremacy tweet and then follows up with his tweet and animation of a speeding train crashing into a news organization. He not only demonstrates total insincerity, but also complete insensitivity to that courageous woman who lost her life to that speeding car crashing into her and others. This is real courage, not the pathetic and phony words uttered by this so-called leader. With all this, not one word to the family of that woman killed by that maniac, not one word to all those that suffered injuries, some very serious. Nothing. A very shallow and empty man obsessed only with his tweets and ego. Something is very mentally wrong with him. Congress has a duty to America and that is to protect America from this unstable man. You act or we will in the elections to come. We don't need cheerleaders to cheer insanity.
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The " president " of Losers.
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This morning -- the morning after he finally spoke out against the KKK and neo-Nazis and their violent racial hatred -- Trump retweeted an image of a Trump train running over a CNN logo with human legs. His decision to retweet this cartoon of horror is quite an astounding in the wake of the car murder of the weekend. So, too, was Trump's retweet of a tweet accusing him of being a fascist.
Trump soon removed his retweets, but they were there for his most extreme followers to retweet themselves. I believe his retweet decisions this morning were conscious acts, designed to assure his avowed KKK and Nazi followers that he stands with them.
Trump soon removed his retweets, but they were there for his most extreme followers to retweet themselves. I believe his retweet decisions this morning were conscious acts, designed to assure his avowed KKK and Nazi followers that he stands with them.
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The appropriate reaction to bigots is to denounce them, point out exactly what they are advocating and shame and humiliate them and make them own who and what they are, without ambiguity. This disease that is President was clearly a White Supremacist from day one, starting his campaign with a play from the Klan, the ugly, racist, nonsensical birther garbage.
That he was treated as a normal candidate, one who could enrich the pockets of the media with the circus that he is, is the real crime. He would not be here if he were not allowed to have free airtime to spread his disease and treated like a normal candidate. This disease is not normal and the reaction of a few on the council is the reaction we must demand from the rest, from anyone else interacting with this monster and from all others around the world. Do not engage, denounce, and if you must, ask point blank: Why he supports Nazis? Why the Klan is emboldened with supporters in the White House? Why he us suppressing the voting rights of millions? We must all stand up and do what is right. We are watching evil rise right before us and we know exactly where this is headed. #NeverAgain
That he was treated as a normal candidate, one who could enrich the pockets of the media with the circus that he is, is the real crime. He would not be here if he were not allowed to have free airtime to spread his disease and treated like a normal candidate. This disease is not normal and the reaction of a few on the council is the reaction we must demand from the rest, from anyone else interacting with this monster and from all others around the world. Do not engage, denounce, and if you must, ask point blank: Why he supports Nazis? Why the Klan is emboldened with supporters in the White House? Why he us suppressing the voting rights of millions? We must all stand up and do what is right. We are watching evil rise right before us and we know exactly where this is headed. #NeverAgain
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Why is fake president Tweetie Pie so loathe to condemn the neo-Nazi alt-white movement? Because he's a card carrying member and a compulsive re-tweeter of heinous content (a literal train wreck). If Tweetie Pie doesn't toe the line he will be outed by his handler, David Duke. SAD!
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Trump's continuous condescending tweets and David Duke's proclamation over the weekend make it clear who the president is. Instead of telling the KKK and others that they're support is unwanted and to go away, he tweets about Hillary, Obama, CEO's who have deserted him, and CNN. The first half of his news conference yesterday was about him, the second half a fixing of a grand mistake. He and his swamp have got to go, I tell ya! The country can't take much more of this. I imagine even his supporters are worn out!
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#FakeSyllogism Moral leadership is expected of all US Presidents, DJT is a US president. DJT is a moral leader.
I got what I would have expected to get from this person who will forever ruin the history books for me.
He was elected in a sham, likely fueld by the russians, using the only gimmick that gets GOP candidates into the office (Electoral College). He makes fun of everyone different from himself, bullies, sexually molests women and brags about it, and lies. We should all be beyond the hope that this abnormal human will suddenly develop a moral center.
We need to look into our own souls for moral guidance and listen to those truer voices in our heads. I have moved on.
I got what I would have expected to get from this person who will forever ruin the history books for me.
He was elected in a sham, likely fueld by the russians, using the only gimmick that gets GOP candidates into the office (Electoral College). He makes fun of everyone different from himself, bullies, sexually molests women and brags about it, and lies. We should all be beyond the hope that this abnormal human will suddenly develop a moral center.
We need to look into our own souls for moral guidance and listen to those truer voices in our heads. I have moved on.
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Mr. Ken Frazier is an American hero. The few who followed him also get some credit. The rest of you who remain and stand with the nazi sympathizer who sits in the oval office are cowards and shoyld show a little integrity
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This president is tied to white supremacists and let them know quite directly he supports their goals and ambitions.
Point of fact:
--He still has white nationalists on staff--Bannon, Miller and Gorka.
--He re-tweeted from a white power website just this week.
--He delayed his own response to the violence in Charlottesville.
--The response he gave sent a positive message to the aggressive nationalists, to the KKK, to militarized gangs.
--David Duke understood the message, as did the Neo-Nazi website Stormfront. They said he condoned it by not condemning them for their acts.
--We're informed he was advised to come out on day one and condemn it, and fought with his staff to not do so. He did not want to say one word about it.
--His scripted follow-up response was meaningless, hollow, and clearly forced.
--If anyone believes those nationalists rallying in Virginia were doing it for freedom of speech purposes---get real.
*Many were easily identified by their employers and will likely be out of a job.*
--It was a display of their powerful ammunition, the strength of their state militias, sheer murderous aggression--and absolutely no patriotism.
--It was a modern day lynching. It was domestic terrorism.
Point of fact:
--He still has white nationalists on staff--Bannon, Miller and Gorka.
--He re-tweeted from a white power website just this week.
--He delayed his own response to the violence in Charlottesville.
--The response he gave sent a positive message to the aggressive nationalists, to the KKK, to militarized gangs.
--David Duke understood the message, as did the Neo-Nazi website Stormfront. They said he condoned it by not condemning them for their acts.
--We're informed he was advised to come out on day one and condemn it, and fought with his staff to not do so. He did not want to say one word about it.
--His scripted follow-up response was meaningless, hollow, and clearly forced.
--If anyone believes those nationalists rallying in Virginia were doing it for freedom of speech purposes---get real.
*Many were easily identified by their employers and will likely be out of a job.*
--It was a display of their powerful ammunition, the strength of their state militias, sheer murderous aggression--and absolutely no patriotism.
--It was a modern day lynching. It was domestic terrorism.
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I had to clean my glasses when I read "self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president." You cannot diminish what doesn't exist. He has no moral standing. His nod and wink to the far right -- and continued employment of Gorka, Miller and Bannon -- prove it. As does his musing about pardoning Joe Arpaio, the patron saint of immigration for any group other than northern white Europeans.
Trump voters: Charlottesville and our .... delicate ... situation in North Korea are on you. You own this. Congratulations on your purchase.
Trump voters: Charlottesville and our .... delicate ... situation in North Korea are on you. You own this. Congratulations on your purchase.
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The Orange Buffoon needs to go!
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Of course he read his speech from a teleprompter since he wouldn't know how to put these words together to say what he should have said in the first place. Just like with an incorrigible child, he was probably threatened with a time out or "candy" if he didn't read the speech someone wrote for him. Too late Trumpty Dumpty!
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Mr. Trump has zero moral credibility. However, what could we expect from a man who ballyhooed his ability to sexually assault women and not be held accountable, demean a Muslim who sacrificed his life for this country, and called Mexican immigrants rapists, criminals and drug dealers, destroy health coverage for millions of Americans, destroy the regulatory protections for the environment, and attacks the free press on a daily basis? This latest failure to denounce the feeble-minded while supremacist/neo-nazi anti-American morons is just one more action of a person whose only way to redeem himself would be to resign.
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The usual political circus rolls on ...meanwhile health care issues, destructive tax policies, and an idiot's guide to the use of nuclear war as a political tool go on spinning themselves into infinity.
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In delivering his comments the president looked liked a petulant little kid being forced to write on the chalkboard, "Nazis are bad hombres."
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I saw one of Arpaio's goons in action some 15 years ago while eating lunch at a Jack-in-the Box on the west side of Phoenix. A large, young muscular, uniformed sheriff's deputy--who was likely working off duty as a security guard--intercepted a young man, probably of Mexican Indian decent, as he came walking through the parking lot toward the JITB. The cop grabbed him by the hands, pulled them up high and wrestled him onto the asphalt. The much smaller man lay on his back, using a parking block as a head rest while the cop towered over him, saying something I could not hear. The cop turned toward the JITB and could see I was watching him. He came into the JITB and glared at me for a few moments and I just looked away, like a coward. I wish I could say that I came back with a video camera but the truth is I didn't have the guts to and I never went back there again, unlike my brave brothers and sisters who stood up to the neo-Nazis, KKK members and wannabe's in Charlottesville. Thank you for your courage, your sacrifices, and for showing us the way.
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When Trump acknowledges that his father was a Klansman, and denounces him, that's when we can start believing that he may have turned the corner.
(Oops, sorry, just caught myself fantasizing. Ain't gonna happen.)
(Oops, sorry, just caught myself fantasizing. Ain't gonna happen.)
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trump tied his 'one horse show' to this racist lot & those who quietly sympathize with them (that 30-35% core). If he loses them, all is lost...he is desperate, self serving and a coward.
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"His moral standing as president"? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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@realDonaldTrump , Unfortunately for You, my not-so-dear fellow, though you may not be capable of, or willing to at this time, we all create the results of the choices we make, and, hopefully, learn from them sooner rather later. Perhaps it just comes down to our nature that determines our choices. I'm not sure. I have no idea how it has been, or will be, for you but it has not been an easy process for me. Sadly, especially for people like you, perhaps it may be even harder still. ...or maybe it's a matter of one's intent. After all, those such as yourself have been pretty darn masterful at gaining power and doing a lot of damage and bring us and our planet down. ...why do you, and the you guys and gals like you gotta do that?? You make me so sick about this ...and angry! I hope you're all gone as soon as possible! (….I'm so looking forward to when we have the leadership on the order of President Obama again - He Was/Is the leadership we desperately need - now more than ever!)
If there is anything good that has come out of this, hopefully, it's been one heck-of-a-chance for our whole civilization to learn from this and never again make the mistakes that allowed you all to take the possessions you've managed be in at this time!
If there is anything good that has come out of this, hopefully, it's been one heck-of-a-chance for our whole civilization to learn from this and never again make the mistakes that allowed you all to take the possessions you've managed be in at this time!
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The Left whack jobs are just as bad causing damage to people an property. I say nightsticks and tasing of right whackos as well as Progressive Left whackos is in order. Beat them silly please. No room for either of them. If they come in my face I may just be locked and loaded. Whats a few less problem people anyway
I was going to write this 3 days ago; and it would have been no different then today. Donald Trump was never/ is never/ will never be fit to be President of the U.S.; or any other country that calls itself a democracy. The events of Charlottesville over this past weekend were as predictable as day follows night. Anyone who was surprised can best be described as fools. Trump signaled his true motives the day he embraced Steve Bannon as his political strategist. The ugliness of his campaign was but a prelude to Charlottesville. If anything I bet the KKK/ Nazi`s no doubt consider this a huge success. They aceived exactly what they wanted; a divided country where one has to choose whose camp you belong to. If anyone thinks you can reason with such bigotry; give your head a shake. This is exactly how and why Trump won. Now everybody who voted for Trump may not be a closet racist; but it is crystal clear that in the Trump/Bannon team the haters had their champions!
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I just read elsewhere that GORKA'S WIFE is also sucking up our tax dollars on the White House staff representing white supremacists. Can't we drain the White House swamp of right wing hate groups - Bannon, Miller, and now 2 Gorkas? What on earth is my tax money going for???? Is Trump running a full employment program for white supremacists out of the White House?
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Too late. When he read the words from the teleprompter, his insincerity was palpable. Trump is a very bad man.
It's up to Mueller now. The clock is ticking. I'm sure Trump is considering starting a war with North Korea as a way to keep us from thinking about the investigation. Bigly.
It's up to Mueller now. The clock is ticking. I'm sure Trump is considering starting a war with North Korea as a way to keep us from thinking about the investigation. Bigly.
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Too late. Stop lowering the bar and don't give him credit for this. He doesn't mean it. #ITMFA
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Imagine your family being kidnapped from your home in the middle of the night...put into shackles and chained to ships..take thousand of miles to a foreign l\and..your family members auctioned off to the highest bidder..and never seeing them again...what in the world can be more evil than that? oh..maybe the holocaust ?? ...and these KKK Nazi scum agitators want to defend both of these horrendous blots on the human record.?? they are just as bad as ISIS...maybe worse...terrorists? not one single doubt in my mind..
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He came into office with no morals. A deeply flawed human being..with no character. What do we expect when events require a true leader.
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I guess a lot of people commenting here and railing in the press have forgotten how things used to be in this country.
Remember when racism was the norm in the United States? Remember when "colored" fountains and restrooms dotted the south? Remember when Jesse Owens said he was treated by the Germans and Adolf Hitler better than he was treated by his fellow Americans and Franklin Roosevelt? Overt racism was not that long ago.
Donald Trump is many things, but he is not a racist. He has not shown any sympathy for white supremacists. Nor has anyone in government at any level or anyone in society but a few sorry souls like those in Charlottesville. They have been marginalized, and have no political power. They numbered there in the low hundreds, and their numbers across the United States number in the low thousands.
Yes, we still have problems with racism in our society. But the white supremacists are not the problem. And when we focus on them, and Donald Trump is criticized (again) for the speed with which he denounces them and his words are parsed for hidden meanings, we focus on the wrong issue and ignore the important issues.
That is political correctness at its worst.
Remember when racism was the norm in the United States? Remember when "colored" fountains and restrooms dotted the south? Remember when Jesse Owens said he was treated by the Germans and Adolf Hitler better than he was treated by his fellow Americans and Franklin Roosevelt? Overt racism was not that long ago.
Donald Trump is many things, but he is not a racist. He has not shown any sympathy for white supremacists. Nor has anyone in government at any level or anyone in society but a few sorry souls like those in Charlottesville. They have been marginalized, and have no political power. They numbered there in the low hundreds, and their numbers across the United States number in the low thousands.
Yes, we still have problems with racism in our society. But the white supremacists are not the problem. And when we focus on them, and Donald Trump is criticized (again) for the speed with which he denounces them and his words are parsed for hidden meanings, we focus on the wrong issue and ignore the important issues.
That is political correctness at its worst.
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The man has three Jewish grandchildren. If I had three Jewish grandchildren, it wouldn't have taken me more than a hot second to stand up on my hind legs and roar out an indictment of these neo-Nazis.
There's politics, and then there's being completely AWOL when the tiniest and most innocent members of your own family are being verbally threatened by chants of "Jews will not replace us."
That crosses a line that we can all relate to, when you fail your own family bigly.
There's politics, and then there's being completely AWOL when the tiniest and most innocent members of your own family are being verbally threatened by chants of "Jews will not replace us."
That crosses a line that we can all relate to, when you fail your own family bigly.
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Well, Trump-45.
Where was all the 'fire and fury' when it was dearly needed in light of what happened in Charlottesville, VA ?
Where was the damnation, the 'get even tougher', the 'will regret immediately', all of the blustering 'tough talk' aimed at North Korea ?
No tough talk from Trump aimed at White Supremacists, Neo-Nazi's, hate-filled racists, societal scum....and, 'I imagine some of them are good people.'
Everything about Trump-45 seems to be laced in fabricated, sterile plastic.
Reading from a Teleprompter versus emotionally speaking from one's heart are two entirely different things. Such a difference has no effect on Trump's emptiness.
Shortly after his inauguration, most everyone was inclined to 'give him some space, give him some time, cut him some slack'.
Space, time, and slack are up Don. It's time to hit ctl-Alt-DELETE !!
Where was all the 'fire and fury' when it was dearly needed in light of what happened in Charlottesville, VA ?
Where was the damnation, the 'get even tougher', the 'will regret immediately', all of the blustering 'tough talk' aimed at North Korea ?
No tough talk from Trump aimed at White Supremacists, Neo-Nazi's, hate-filled racists, societal scum....and, 'I imagine some of them are good people.'
Everything about Trump-45 seems to be laced in fabricated, sterile plastic.
Reading from a Teleprompter versus emotionally speaking from one's heart are two entirely different things. Such a difference has no effect on Trump's emptiness.
Shortly after his inauguration, most everyone was inclined to 'give him some space, give him some time, cut him some slack'.
Space, time, and slack are up Don. It's time to hit ctl-Alt-DELETE !!
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If you think it can't happen here, Please read "1924: The Year That Made Hitler" by Peter Ross Range. Little, Brown, 2016.
In addition to his strategies to blame "The Other" for Germany's economic troubles and to focus the German people on the concept of Lebensraum, Hitler learned in 1924 that control of the press was vital to his reach for power. Plus, with a strident voice and forceful presentation, he knew how to play to the crowd.
Speaking of which, Ellen Nakashima writes in the Washington Post, August 14, 2017:
The Justice Department request covers more than 1.3 million IP addresses and includes emails between the site’s organizers and people interested in attending Inauguration Day protests, deleted messages and files, as well as subscriber information and unpublished photos and blog posts stored in the site’s database.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/tech-company-is-f...
In addition to his strategies to blame "The Other" for Germany's economic troubles and to focus the German people on the concept of Lebensraum, Hitler learned in 1924 that control of the press was vital to his reach for power. Plus, with a strident voice and forceful presentation, he knew how to play to the crowd.
Speaking of which, Ellen Nakashima writes in the Washington Post, August 14, 2017:
The Justice Department request covers more than 1.3 million IP addresses and includes emails between the site’s organizers and people interested in attending Inauguration Day protests, deleted messages and files, as well as subscriber information and unpublished photos and blog posts stored in the site’s database.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/tech-company-is-f...
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I do believe it, but what I think we have going for us is a currently strong economy (thank you Obama), Trump's very low approval rating, and the fact that over 3 million more citizens voted for Hillary than Trump. We are not going to let it happen.
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What did he say during the campaign? "I Love the Poorly Educated..."
And he does because will all his money and degrees -- he's ignorant.
And so... Birds of a feather...
And he does because will all his money and degrees -- he's ignorant.
And so... Birds of a feather...
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He did not rebuke them. He dog whistled to them while reciting a script he did not believe it. When he said "racism is evil" and went on to recite 'and other hate groups' he was making sure that his followers knew that he and Jeff Sessions would prosecute BLM, not them. Just wait and see.
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There were not "all sides," or "many sides" in Charlottesville. There were two sides, and "one side had Nazis on it," as Jimmy Kimmel pointed out!
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Bryan Cranston's tweet may be best: "Felt like Trump reading the TelePrompter message condemning hate groups like a hostage forced to read a statement by his captors.
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As a white woman, what I keep wondering is why everyone is paying so much attention to the death of one WHITE woman in Charlottesville while we gave the massacre of nine BLACK people in a black Charleston church short shrift.
Reminds me of a few decades ago, when the killing of four white students at Kent State created a massive national furor, while essentially ignoring the rape and massacre of eight MIXED RACE nursing students in Chicago at around the same time.
Reminds me of a few decades ago, when the killing of four white students at Kent State created a massive national furor, while essentially ignoring the rape and massacre of eight MIXED RACE nursing students in Chicago at around the same time.
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I don't think Richard Speck was ignored or that the murders in Charleston were ignored. Yes, media focus and public attention can be biased, but I don't think these two examples make the case (that I think you are making) that white people care only about violence done to white people.
Richard Speck was not an agent of the government. His crimes were horrific and did receive extensive media coverage at the time.
But to compare that to the government slaughtering protesters and bystanders is simply absurd and detracts from your point.
But to compare that to the government slaughtering protesters and bystanders is simply absurd and detracts from your point.
Well, I mean, the nurses were murdered by a serial killer and there was a huge amount of coverage and outrage about it. The Ohio National Guard, supposedly our protectors, shot down defenseless students. I feel you but I think you've got some apples and oranges here (I may be a tad bit older--I remember both very well).
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Clark told Butler he'd spend half his wealth stoking a fascist overturning to save the remainder from FDR. Gould told friends he could get half of his workers to murder the others. This divide to conquer thingy halves lots of people.
No one's fooled by Trump's words of condemnation of the white supremacy, especially white supremacists. Those on the left certainly aren't fooled. Delayed, mute criticism of white nationalism is a Trump hallmark. The sooner people deliver a quick ride home for the tweeter-in-chief the better.
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The president's moral standing? He has no standing, moral or otherwise.
Unprepared. Unfit. Indecent.
Unprepared. Unfit. Indecent.
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The Vice Mayor of Charlottesville has a long history of anti-white statements, but move along nothing to see there...
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"and other hate groups" is his alt-right dog-whistle way of impugning Black Lives Matter in a terrorist act for which they bore no responsibility whatsoever.
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Some days I think Trump is cunningly malevolent out to gain personal power and riches, and other days I think he's just abysmally incompetent. Every day, I recognize his hubris is such that he believes his own knowledge and instincts are superior to any others,' even when they lead him to serious missteps he then has to get himself out of.
Is there no real professional communications expertise whatsoever in the White House, or does Trump just refuse to listen to it?
Is there no real professional communications expertise whatsoever in the White House, or does Trump just refuse to listen to it?
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Pres. Trump, past negative behavior towards Barrack Obama, and his
failure to immediately condemn the neo-nazis would indicate that the man
might have some issues with people of color. Also he should no the difference
between a "clean conservative" and a "dirty conservative" when it relates to his base because he is giving ethical, moral conservatives a bad name.
failure to immediately condemn the neo-nazis would indicate that the man
might have some issues with people of color. Also he should no the difference
between a "clean conservative" and a "dirty conservative" when it relates to his base because he is giving ethical, moral conservatives a bad name.
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"...self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president." What? What moral standing? Don't see how this incident does that.
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You can't re=-do a first impression. Sorry, Mr, Trump -- it didn't work.
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In the Middle East we have the Sunni-Shiite arguments and killings. In America we have the Democrats-Republicans arguments. Both are the same, with identical results the more primitive the US is evolving.
Wes Bellamy, Mayor of Charlottesville, was asked by Erin Burnett on CNN last evening if it was true that he once professed to loathing white people. He said yes when he was a young immature man. "Charlottesville, Virginia, Vice Mayor Wes Bellamy, who stepped down from the Virginia Board of Education after tweets of his containing anti-white comments surfaced in 2016, says he is not the same 'ignorant man'." This was on the CNN website.
Erin Burnett is to be given credit for revealing this important information. All bigotry is wrong whether from the left or right, white or black people. This proves there is bigotry on both sore and all races. It is wrong and should be addressed.
Erin Burnett is to be given credit for revealing this important information. All bigotry is wrong whether from the left or right, white or black people. This proves there is bigotry on both sore and all races. It is wrong and should be addressed.
Correction in next to last sentence "This proves there is bigotry on both sides and all races." Sorry for the error.
Trump supporters see his "CNN Trump Train" tweet as just a joke. The rest of us see Trump as the joke. Big difference, and neither is funny.
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It's clear that Trump's heart is with the white supremacists and that he has been pressured to, after four days, denounce them in the mildest of terms. Any criticism he now offers about these hate movements and what happened Friday night in Charlottesville is so half-heartedly false that it's ridiculous.
Unfortunately, even this display of utter moral turpitude will not deter his supporters.
We have a President who is solid supporter of white supremacy, and he must go; the sooner the better.
Unfortunately, even this display of utter moral turpitude will not deter his supporters.
We have a President who is solid supporter of white supremacy, and he must go; the sooner the better.
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" ... his measured remarks ..."
If the remarks were measured, they are not the president's. Moreover, the facts tell us he does not believe what he said. Trump's Monday tweets and his promise to pardon Arpaio make that clear. After all, Gorka and Bannon are still in the White House.
If the remarks were measured, they are not the president's. Moreover, the facts tell us he does not believe what he said. Trump's Monday tweets and his promise to pardon Arpaio make that clear. After all, Gorka and Bannon are still in the White House.
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that there were racists on both sides of the confrontation in Charlottesville. Neither is without blame for the violence that developed.
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Trump and the Republican party have made a mockery of our government. They take the responsibility given to them as lightly as humanly imaginable. They torture us emotionally, threaten our financial and social stability and insult us at every opportunity. Is Trump the worst? Sadly, probably not. He's just the most blatant. I'm slightly more afraid of Congress because they are less visible.
I can't wait to see how this all ends. Hopefully, it will end without Mcconnell, Ryan and the entire Trump administration...and soon.
I can't wait to see how this all ends. Hopefully, it will end without Mcconnell, Ryan and the entire Trump administration...and soon.
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Where was the outrage when Obama failed to call out "Islamic Terrorists" for their actions? Where was the outrage when Obama wavered to classify terrorist attacks like the Ft Hood attack for what they were rather than calling them "workplace incidents". Obama never called out the ant-police terrorism that resulted in the executions and assassinations of police officers throughout the country. He focused on police abuses instead. Not a word from the media.
What happened in Charlotteville is dispicable and rascism was called out. The leftist media wanted more. Too bad the leftist media wasn't so demanding during the previous administration.
What happened in Charlotteville is dispicable and rascism was called out. The leftist media wanted more. Too bad the leftist media wasn't so demanding during the previous administration.
"Bowing to pressure" There's the qualifier. Without the pressure, yay alt-right thinks Donald.
There is no more to say about how he got there, or what is he doing, but simply why is he still there. He's forging a legacy that by all accounts will have lasting, devastating effects. Pick a topic, it doesn't matter, it cuts against the grain of most every American watching, save for a few...and there's little time left to debate. Our country, our values, and our beliefs are at stake, so ask yourselves, why is he still there? May God bless us all.
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Are you really this ridiculous? What has changed from Obama? Not too much. Sessions AG office has been prosecuting hate crimes. I don't see how he's a white supremacist. Why are Democrats so ridiculous? No care about the absolutely dismal economy for working people. You all just tell those losers to bootstrap. It's really unreal.
However, D.T was elected by the U.S people. He did promise that he would change this country and he succeeds but on the contrary way
He was, elected by the electoral college, not by the people. He has no mandate.
Not contrary to the voters that elected him.
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So what does it take for trump to be found unfit for the presidency?
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Not much.
Ratification of the Constitution was touch and go.
That is why the right of a state to secede was intentionally left out of the Constitution.
The nearest reference is the 10th Amendment which reserves to the states and the people rights not enumerated to the federal government.
The right of a state to secede is as unsettled today as it was at the founding.
The North defeated the South by force of arms.
That did not change the Constitution.
That is why the right of a state to secede was intentionally left out of the Constitution.
The nearest reference is the 10th Amendment which reserves to the states and the people rights not enumerated to the federal government.
The right of a state to secede is as unsettled today as it was at the founding.
The North defeated the South by force of arms.
That did not change the Constitution.
Part of the problem unfolding in 2017 lies with the assumption that whatever Trump did or espoused as a candidate "got him elected," and therefore embodies a "winning" approach to governing. Trump was in fact "elected" by the slimmest of margins in at least a half-dozen states where votes were counted on computers under the full control of private, partisan corporations, such as Dominion Voting and ES&S, and Republican-controlled state administrations. There were glaring red flags, a pattern of exit poll-votecount disparities that has come to characterize the computerized voting era (it is called "the red shift") but somehow be dismissed with barely a shrug. There was also plenty of voter suppression. Attempts to recount in MI, PA, and WI were thwarted (see CodeRed2016.com/blog).
The tactics of strip and flip "elected" Donald Trump and, copious evidence indicates, have been "electing" right-wing candidates throughout the computerized voting era. As a result, neither the Trump presidency nor the GOP control of Congress and many state governments represents the public wisdom and will. Is it any wonder that leaders so grossly out of sync with their constituents, but imagining that they have been duly elected and therefore popular, find themselves making political blunder after blunder? The real question now is whether they will be held accountable for those blunders when the public has its next chance to weigh in with their votes. Not unless those votes are counted observably.
The tactics of strip and flip "elected" Donald Trump and, copious evidence indicates, have been "electing" right-wing candidates throughout the computerized voting era. As a result, neither the Trump presidency nor the GOP control of Congress and many state governments represents the public wisdom and will. Is it any wonder that leaders so grossly out of sync with their constituents, but imagining that they have been duly elected and therefore popular, find themselves making political blunder after blunder? The real question now is whether they will be held accountable for those blunders when the public has its next chance to weigh in with their votes. Not unless those votes are counted observably.
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Seven months in and we have no competent, moral leadership in the Office of the President of the United States. Hopefully impeachment and removal of demagogue Trump is on the agenda. Our future - near and far - depends on it.
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Democrats with support of the liberal media are now trying to tell President Trump what to say and how to say it. Even what he is thinking ..
Apparently the constitution and freedom of speech are not part of their beliefs.
Apparently the constitution and freedom of speech are not part of their beliefs.
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While I consider myself as a liberal minded person I confess that I am no more trusting of the extremists on the left as I am those on the right. Both sides attempt to control the messages we hear regardless of whether there is any reliable facts to support their assertions. We must all do our best to find the facts, use our logical minds, and use common sense. Regardless of the rationale used people who are prepared to use violence started with violence on their agenda - actions start with an intention.
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I recall from November looking at a map of election results in Brooklyn and noticing that the pro-Trump areas often corresponded to neighborhoods with a large population of Orthodox Jews. I'm curious to know how these folks feel about their favored candidate's response to the horrid events of this weekend.
Don’t be distracted by Republicans speaking out against right wing groups. As indicated below the Justice Department of this administration has reduced emphasis of civil right issues on several fronts:
"In the first six months of this administration, we have seen a swift rollback of many of the key civil rights priorities, from the retreat on police reform, to rolling back voting rights and LGBT litigation and enforcement, to criminal justice reform," said Vanita Gupta, who ran the DOJ unit for President Barack Obama…
In the election last there were 17 states that had voter restriction laws targeting minority voting. These laws were passed by Republican majorities and signed by Republican governors.
Per the ACLU “In the 2016 presidential election, up to 17 states may have restrictive voting laws in place. Collectively, these 17 states are home to over 110 million people and will wield 189 of the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the presidency. Overall, the ACLU is fighting in 15 states, challenging various hurdles to registration, cutbacks on early voting, and strict voter identification requirements.”
Finally 89 percent of self-described Republicans voted for Trump after his bigoted attacks on Mexicans, Moslems and women.
"In the first six months of this administration, we have seen a swift rollback of many of the key civil rights priorities, from the retreat on police reform, to rolling back voting rights and LGBT litigation and enforcement, to criminal justice reform," said Vanita Gupta, who ran the DOJ unit for President Barack Obama…
In the election last there were 17 states that had voter restriction laws targeting minority voting. These laws were passed by Republican majorities and signed by Republican governors.
Per the ACLU “In the 2016 presidential election, up to 17 states may have restrictive voting laws in place. Collectively, these 17 states are home to over 110 million people and will wield 189 of the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the presidency. Overall, the ACLU is fighting in 15 states, challenging various hurdles to registration, cutbacks on early voting, and strict voter identification requirements.”
Finally 89 percent of self-described Republicans voted for Trump after his bigoted attacks on Mexicans, Moslems and women.
Homeland security released a report several years ago that identified the greatest terrorist threat to the US was in fact from internal fringe groups, such as those in the Alt Right, those at the rally in Virginia.
Of course, the report was marginalized by elements in the GOP.
Of course, the report was marginalized by elements in the GOP.
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Where is the GOP? They support trump and only a handful have responded. Not much either from Dems. Seems that Washington can't function on any level. Business of all people, have some courage to call out trump.
We, the People, are gifted with the 24/7, ubiquitous presence of a CEO
who is COA (Center Of Attention) and chronically self- determined as the
the Circuitous Determinant of all daily decisions, maximum and minimum.
Part of his Sociopathic Personality Disorder is fulfilled by his being allowed
the Privilege of Personally Presiding as President in Pretense over any human moment in the life of any citizen of the United States of America.
Humbly submitted by a minimal average human being in waiting for Leadership somewhere "In the Wings".
who is COA (Center Of Attention) and chronically self- determined as the
the Circuitous Determinant of all daily decisions, maximum and minimum.
Part of his Sociopathic Personality Disorder is fulfilled by his being allowed
the Privilege of Personally Presiding as President in Pretense over any human moment in the life of any citizen of the United States of America.
Humbly submitted by a minimal average human being in waiting for Leadership somewhere "In the Wings".
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I'm not aware of anyone who thought that Trump has a moral standard. He's certainly never shown any evidence of one.
The question that lingers days after the violent outburst in Charlottesville asks, is President Trump’s statement to the public, regarding racism, too late to reverse the damage he has already done to his reputation. In my opinion, President Trump is too late; he has not done enough in the past, and now the present, to prove that he is serious about making a change for the safety of every American. It was only after receiving extreme backlash for releasing ambiguous statements, by Trump, to the public, which lead President Trump to speak up about white supremacy. On Saturday, following the crisis, President Trump commented that the violence was initiated by ‘many sides.’ President Trump tried to resolve the criticism from his previous statement, by saying, ‘Racism is evil.’ Trump’s sudden action to all the crisis directed towards himself, leads me to believe that President Trump may have felt obligated or forced to make the statement, regarding racism. Prior to the crisis in Charlottesville, President Trump’s actions towards immigration and the “Black Lives Matter” movements, shapes him into a person who supports racism and white supremacy. In my opinion. until President Trump stands up for the minorities and the interests of every member of our country, the violence will continue and justice will not be served for those involved.
The real Donald Trump responded on Saturday. On Monday, he said what he thought people wanted to hear, and not what he believed. Trump is all about image, not substance, and so can't understand why he is getting slammed.
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What question are the posters asking that would prompt 32% of respondents to support this immoral human being??
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Trump should write two letters: 1) His resignation from the position of President of the United States. 2) Another expressing his apologies to the people of the US for having been such a colossal failure as President of the United States.
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And one to future generations who will be wrecked by climate change.
Right-wingers say left-wingers suppress free speech if the speaker doesn't agree with them. Left-wingers say the same thing in reverse.
The truth is that BOTH sides favor free speech for those who agree with them, and, at best, look the other way when someone with whom they disagree is not allowed to speak.
Most Americans don't agree with either "wing." We support free speech for EVERYONE. But we also distinguish free speech from violence. That guy driving his car through the crowd was not exercising his right to free speech. He was driving his car through a crowd of people who were exercising THEIR right to free speech. Big difference, and one that should be obvious to everyone.
The people who punched and pushed down the alt-right guy at his press conference yesterday should be prosecuted too. But whether they are or not shouldn't change how the car-driver case is handled. They should lock that guy up for a very, very long time (the rest of his life, for example).
The truth is that BOTH sides favor free speech for those who agree with them, and, at best, look the other way when someone with whom they disagree is not allowed to speak.
Most Americans don't agree with either "wing." We support free speech for EVERYONE. But we also distinguish free speech from violence. That guy driving his car through the crowd was not exercising his right to free speech. He was driving his car through a crowd of people who were exercising THEIR right to free speech. Big difference, and one that should be obvious to everyone.
The people who punched and pushed down the alt-right guy at his press conference yesterday should be prosecuted too. But whether they are or not shouldn't change how the car-driver case is handled. They should lock that guy up for a very, very long time (the rest of his life, for example).
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What does I say about this country when
a little over 63 million people voted for him?
a little over 63 million people voted for him?
The first marching row of the supremacist came armed with plastic guards and billy clubs mimicking an army. Every one of them should be arrested for terrorism. Trump should call for it now.
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In addition to sadness of seeing the horrific pictures of a car ramming human beings because of racial and political animosity, I'm disturbed by the large number of protesting zealots who were armed--heavily--that day in Charlottesville. It seems inevitable that these guys will use their weapons of war in the not-too-distant future on others, mainly because they disagree with their political views. Then, we'll be reading stories of 10, 15 or 20 dead following a rally. The majority of us will shake our heads about it and then fail to show up to vote in 2018, thereby doing nothing about this nonsense.
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No,
I have not read the 4,068 comments.
Perhaps not even God knows what goes on in Trump's Mind.
But we should remember that Eisenhower and Kennedy were slow
to react and denounce violations of Civil Rights.
Do you expect Trump to denounce every act of violence in America.
In the larger perspective this is an event that the Media has overblown,
It involved less than 1,000 people and if the death had not occurred,
had no lasting impression on American History.
It is the Alt-Left that instigated the Violence.
Why the Police allowed them to block the street is an open question.
The young man who caused the death is mentally disturbed.
Meanwhile North Korea continues to build ICBM's that can carry
larger nuclear warheads ever farther.
I have not read the 4,068 comments.
Perhaps not even God knows what goes on in Trump's Mind.
But we should remember that Eisenhower and Kennedy were slow
to react and denounce violations of Civil Rights.
Do you expect Trump to denounce every act of violence in America.
In the larger perspective this is an event that the Media has overblown,
It involved less than 1,000 people and if the death had not occurred,
had no lasting impression on American History.
It is the Alt-Left that instigated the Violence.
Why the Police allowed them to block the street is an open question.
The young man who caused the death is mentally disturbed.
Meanwhile North Korea continues to build ICBM's that can carry
larger nuclear warheads ever farther.
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I'm surprised that so many commenter still tout the "impeachment" remedy.
Two Presidents have been impeached -- Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton -- and a third (Richard Nixon) probably would have been if he hadn't resigned first.
But let's not forget that no President has ever actually been removed from office through impeachment. The two who were impeached (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton) served out their terms (though both of them (Democrats) were succeeded by a member of the opposite party (i.e. a Republican)).
The Democrats should focus on what got Trump where he is: elections -- starting in 2018. Time for them to forget about this "impeachment" pipe dream, resolve their "left v. center" internal dispute, pick some good candidates, and get them elected. If they do that, they'll have shot in 2020. If the don't, they won't.
Two Presidents have been impeached -- Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton -- and a third (Richard Nixon) probably would have been if he hadn't resigned first.
But let's not forget that no President has ever actually been removed from office through impeachment. The two who were impeached (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton) served out their terms (though both of them (Democrats) were succeeded by a member of the opposite party (i.e. a Republican)).
The Democrats should focus on what got Trump where he is: elections -- starting in 2018. Time for them to forget about this "impeachment" pipe dream, resolve their "left v. center" internal dispute, pick some good candidates, and get them elected. If they do that, they'll have shot in 2020. If the don't, they won't.
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Even if they do not impeach the investigation will show what a fraud and liar Trump is. Hopefully the GOP is swept from power in a big way.. They need to spend a few years in the wilderness, hoping getting some religion, and develop truly useful policies with the numbers to back them instead of pulling it out of thin air.
President Trump: If you detest the fascism we suffered in Charlottesville, Va. as you claim -- two days late -- then rid your administration of crypto- (and not very crypto) fascist Steve Bannon.
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Nothing Trump can do or say will satisfy the Lefties. The weirdos from CNN and Washington Compost wake up every day trying to figure out a new angle to destroy our President. No one should be able to get away with this.
Either way Trump will win again in 2020 if the economy stays good. Trump=winning. All the Left can do is whine every single day.
Either way Trump will win again in 2020 if the economy stays good. Trump=winning. All the Left can do is whine every single day.
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Charlottesville. Tipping point. Trump never will recover.
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Nonsense. Trump as a maturing and effective politician.
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During the campaign, Trump was the only American who claimed not to know that David Duke was a KKK grand wizard. When he finally came out to say he didn't want his support he also managed to deride all kinds of "groups" as if the KKK was just a benign group of guys hanging out together. Trump cannot simply stand up for what is right because, without the KKK and Neo Nazi base, he would not have been elected. He ran on a platform of hatred and violence, so it is no surprise he is pandering to the lowest element of society now. He is already running for the next election, proving to his constituents that he is a fellow hater. How the White House staff managed to convince him to make this last statement condemning his voter base is really amazing. He must have had to go and wash his mouth out with soap for uttering all those condemnations in public. Since he starting running for office there has been a huge increase in anti-Semitic incidence. How will he feel if his daughter is attacked on the way to the synagogue by one of his hate monger voters? He, of course, doesn't see that he is the driving force behind the rise in hate crimes because he reads only fake news sites which pander to his whims.
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Here is a guy who quickly takes to twitter to rant and rage at all hrs of the night.,but takes 48hrs to renounce hate in words that are obviously not his .He may have renounced hate but he still wants to build a wall to keep out the undesirables such as Mexicans and ban muslims from entering the country.? Your response is hollow and fake like your presidency
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No worry about any of the Trumps being attacked. The Secret Service has had to increase its numbers--way up--making him the most expensive president ever to be protected. Oh, no, the Trumps are in no danger. We, the people, are however!
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Trump is incredibily dumb and did not know what the triad was and his appointment of Rick Perry who did not know that the DOE builds nuclear weapons is pretty much a monument to stupidity and a feeble mind.
Trump petulant vindictive petty response exemplifies the man and demonstrates why the office he holds is being diminished by him each day. History will record him as the sorriest example holding that office and an example of a modern day Nero.
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No need to wait for what history will record. Just look at the comments on the pages of The New York Times. We didn't see anything like that with our beloved number 44.
Hopefully history will dismiss his reign like a few English rejects.
James II could not get around the Glorious Revolution, so a bunch of his followers came here to spread fear and claim supremacy. Boat loads of them in our national genealogy.
James II could not get around the Glorious Revolution, so a bunch of his followers came here to spread fear and claim supremacy. Boat loads of them in our national genealogy.
Rh,
Yep.
Even when the Roman Republic failed they got Julius, Augustus, and the marginal Tiberius before hitting bottom. We went straight to Caligula.
Yep.
Even when the Roman Republic failed they got Julius, Augustus, and the marginal Tiberius before hitting bottom. We went straight to Caligula.
"If the GOP wants to show they really mean what they say, they should start impeachment proceedings NOW."
Trump is NOT going to be impeached. Nor, frankly, do I think much of the "impeachment" remedy after the Republicans found it exceedingly difficult to appoint some Republican to lead the anti-Clinton proceeding who himself hadn't had an extramarital affair. (The finally settled on Dennis Hastert, who much later, of course, had serious legal troubles of his own.)
Those who want to get rid of Trump should focus on the process that got him where he is: elections. Start with the 2018 mid-terms. Resolve the "left v. center" internal dispute within the Democratic Party, pick some strong candidates to run, and get them elected.
If the Democrats do that, Trump will be vulnerable in 2020. If they don't -- for example, if they continue to believe in the "impeachment" pipe dream -- Trump will be re-elected.
That's reality. It may suck, but it is nonetheless reality.
Trump is NOT going to be impeached. Nor, frankly, do I think much of the "impeachment" remedy after the Republicans found it exceedingly difficult to appoint some Republican to lead the anti-Clinton proceeding who himself hadn't had an extramarital affair. (The finally settled on Dennis Hastert, who much later, of course, had serious legal troubles of his own.)
Those who want to get rid of Trump should focus on the process that got him where he is: elections. Start with the 2018 mid-terms. Resolve the "left v. center" internal dispute within the Democratic Party, pick some strong candidates to run, and get them elected.
If the Democrats do that, Trump will be vulnerable in 2020. If they don't -- for example, if they continue to believe in the "impeachment" pipe dream -- Trump will be re-elected.
That's reality. It may suck, but it is nonetheless reality.
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Agree impeachment not best Dem strategy. Moreover, would result in Pence's becoming president and harder to defeat in 2020.
Perhaps, My Three Cents, but there is always the hope that instead of being JUST impeached, he will be led out of The White House in handcuffs. This remains to be seen. Robert Mueller, we await all the results of your investigations with heavy, fearful, yet hopeful, hearts. Let me tell you that in my opinion, trump is a person who is so incredibly amoral that it would be beyond surprising to me if it is not found that he was involved with multiple, nefarious, illegal, and very possibly, treasonous actions. Actions that cavalierly, negligently, and perhaps even maliciously endangered The United States of America, while seeking to enrich the trumps. If this is so, we are speaking BEYOND mere impeachment.
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Trump will be removed from office or resign, way before the next presidential election. President Pence will run for his own term, but lose the election in 2020.
The first progressive Democratic president since LBJ will be elected in 2020, finally taking the Democratic Party back from its misguided center-right politics it has embraced since 1976.
The GOP will splinter into two or three Parties, the largest of which will be the fascist-racist element that Trump loves.
The first progressive Democratic president since LBJ will be elected in 2020, finally taking the Democratic Party back from its misguided center-right politics it has embraced since 1976.
The GOP will splinter into two or three Parties, the largest of which will be the fascist-racist element that Trump loves.
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From day 1, no surprise. Trump is doing everything he can to overtake Bush as "miserable failure" in google searches. I think he will "win" that title very soon. As Trump likes to say, "Believe me." Yes, I believe it. You can win that title, Trump. You "win" everything. I'm so tired of "all the winning", but you have this one in the bag. Congrats.
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I would rather have Bush 2 at 9/11 than this con.... We would probably be trying to pull ourself out of 5 ground wars in different countries.
Trump will never live down his first weak "many sides, many sides" comment in response to a woman murdered on an American street by a deranged member of his racist base. Today he proves he didn't mean his second statement with his tweet of the "Trump train" running over a CNN reporter. This administration and his Republican support in government should all be voted out of office. I would say impeached, but the Republicans will never remove Trump, they put him there and are enjoying their racist corrupt president.
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Perhaps the question we should be asking (given that everything has been said clearly on his initial response to this outrage) is why are any business leaders still on his council? Isn't this the ultimate profiles in courage ... or cowardice moment?
Should we assume that any company that maintains its presence on one of Trump's economic council is essentially declaring its willingness to become corrupt? Even businesses have moral scruples, if for no other reason than to reduce potential bad publicity. I assume anyone who continues to cozy up to him by participating in these councils is either 1.) getting paid to do so through business dealings; or 2.) expects to get paid in the same fashion in the future. In other words: CORRUPTION.
CEO's, what is your reason for staying involved with this guy? It can't end well.
Should we assume that any company that maintains its presence on one of Trump's economic council is essentially declaring its willingness to become corrupt? Even businesses have moral scruples, if for no other reason than to reduce potential bad publicity. I assume anyone who continues to cozy up to him by participating in these councils is either 1.) getting paid to do so through business dealings; or 2.) expects to get paid in the same fashion in the future. In other words: CORRUPTION.
CEO's, what is your reason for staying involved with this guy? It can't end well.
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We should boycott all the corporations his council members lead, not just the ones Trump owns--though that would be a good start.
I would resign not even worth the time. The Donald would never listen to any suggestions...
If Trump had any redeeming qualities, perhaps he would get the benefit of the doubt. But he doesn't, and he won't.
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He of course has many and he will. It's sad but without Trump the nation has little hope of pulling itself out of the multicultural morass it finds itself in.
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Alt right and trump use exactly the same tactics to move their agenda forward.
False equivalencies, distraction, propaganda, lies and false information, calling the legit media "fake news" and then planting false news stories in alt-right friendly media like the National Equirer, Brietbart, and Fox.
The alt-right racists are correct in that they are bringing their message to the mainstream, and trump is helping them do just that.
False equivalencies, distraction, propaganda, lies and false information, calling the legit media "fake news" and then planting false news stories in alt-right friendly media like the National Equirer, Brietbart, and Fox.
The alt-right racists are correct in that they are bringing their message to the mainstream, and trump is helping them do just that.
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No leader with a moral compass waits until he can preface crisis remarks with a spin on jobs and economy. trump/ Sessions Dept of Justice is currently investigating 1.9 million visitors to anti trump inaugural website while Trump mulls pardoning racist sheriff joe. The generals are poised to run the country while the President attacks Dems, journalists, immigrants and supposed illegal voters. The only ballot cast twice in his election was that of an Idaho Trump voter. The fake news source should, like Alice, find his looking glass. Mr. Trump disseminates fake data 24/7 and spews invectives on twitter and on camera.
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I notice many posters are curious about what it takes to erase the Apprentice from the Presidency.
The 25th Amendment for one which can be used to identify a POTUS who is considered mentally unsuitable by Congress. After that, most likely an "obstruction of justice" charge as used against Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton based on the POTUS lying about certain things under investigation.
So, in the Apprentice's case, it should be simple to catch him in a lie.
The 25th Amendment for one which can be used to identify a POTUS who is considered mentally unsuitable by Congress. After that, most likely an "obstruction of justice" charge as used against Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Bill Clinton based on the POTUS lying about certain things under investigation.
So, in the Apprentice's case, it should be simple to catch him in a lie.
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All the sound and fury will come to nothing. Come 2020, Trump will be re-elected, as his base of racist and ignorant deplorables will remain rock solid, all Republicans, as usual, will vote party over country, and Democrats once again will self destruct, in another divisive fight between progressives and moderates. Maybe we are getting what we deserve.
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Interesting the Dems are the GOP of 30-40 years ago and the current GOP is slowly embracing the Confederacy...
to quote maya angelou: "when someone shows you who they are, believe them..."
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The president is ignorant. He will never understand what decency is, as he has none himself.
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Moral standing? When has Trump ever had any moral standing?
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@F Bragg: Thank you for saying this. That was my first thought as well.
Thanks for that question. Trumps entire political campaign was run on moral standing which is why he won.
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When will HRC and Bernie call out their supporters who engaged in violent protests against Trump during the campaign? When will Leftists call out their fellow travelers for violently denying freedom of speech on college campuses?
Oh that's right - never. Because Leftists - which is where fascism comes from - are proud of their efforts to suppress anyone who disagrees with them.
Oh that's right - never. Because Leftists - which is where fascism comes from - are proud of their efforts to suppress anyone who disagrees with them.
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Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.
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Fascism, KarlosTJ, is manifested in groups like the KKK. In present day political and social agenda, groups of that order are aligned with the far right wing of the GOP...not with Democrats. I believe that Democrats are in favor of free speech; what we do not support is HATE SPEECH. Hate, intolerance, disenfranchisement of the poor, the sick, and the elderly, and harm against those who do not fit their racist and social worldview is today, and has been for a very long time BEFORE today, espoused by only ONE PARTY...and that party is the GOP, led by the entitled, elitist, corrupt, greedy, hate-filled, exclusionary, racist likes of mcconnell, ryan, pence, trump, bannon, miller, and the rest of their "good" 'ol $$$$$$$ buddies...like the Koches, and the Mercers. But nice try in blaming it on The Left...who espouse inclusion, tolerance, love, compassion, and wisdom. GIVE ME ONE--JUST ONE--EXAMPLE OF WISDOM, TOLERANCE, LOVE, COMPASSION, AND INCLUSION FROM THE RIGHT!!!!!! JUST ONE!!!!!!!
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I'll tell you why.
1. They probably don't have a Record (of quotes) encouraging others to be violent. But then again you could say the same about folks like: Romney, Bush(s), McCain,..the mature, well-read, politicians usually are smart enough to avoid it.
2. They're not POTUS, that answered a murderous Act with a dud of a statement and walked away from the media afterwards.
1. They probably don't have a Record (of quotes) encouraging others to be violent. But then again you could say the same about folks like: Romney, Bush(s), McCain,..the mature, well-read, politicians usually are smart enough to avoid it.
2. They're not POTUS, that answered a murderous Act with a dud of a statement and walked away from the media afterwards.
Seven months after the inauguration, we have a failed presidency. I hope we don't get a failed state after four years.
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Glenn Thrush:
" a self-made multimillionaire" Where did the money come from? Did he print it or did it come from other people's work? If he printed it, who built the machine?
Racism is a terrible thing but not the only one.
" a self-made multimillionaire" Where did the money come from? Did he print it or did it come from other people's work? If he printed it, who built the machine?
Racism is a terrible thing but not the only one.
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too late to avoid harming his moral image ? Are you kidding? what morality does he have in the first place
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The morality that David Duke and Richard Spencer are embarrassingly trying to make a case for to appease their little hateful cult.
President Trump condemned the the violence, condemned KKK, neo-Nazis, and these extremeist groups. He could condemn these people until doomsday and he would still have his critics. He strongly denounced these horrid people yet folks are saying it is not enough. He did it.
You hate this man like no other before him and want him out of the White House. He is staying right where he belongs. He was elected and is our president.
You hate this man like no other before him and want him out of the White House. He is staying right where he belongs. He was elected and is our president.
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He only condemned them finally because he was forced to. He made sure his white supremacists buddies knew it was an empty gesture. That's why they are not lashing back at him and stating on their vile websites that his latest performance was just that a performance and that he still has their backs.
Anyone with common sense can see that this guy now in the White House, whose closest aides and advisors are white supremacists, believes as they do.
He welcomed the support of these white supremacists groups during the election period, and showed them that he was not about to condemn them and their racist, bigoted actions in Charlottsville.
How smug and disdainful he must secretly feel, that his supporters will believe anything he says. When he whines to them that he is a victim, they swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Anyone with common sense can see that this guy now in the White House, whose closest aides and advisors are white supremacists, believes as they do.
He welcomed the support of these white supremacists groups during the election period, and showed them that he was not about to condemn them and their racist, bigoted actions in Charlottsville.
How smug and disdainful he must secretly feel, that his supporters will believe anything he says. When he whines to them that he is a victim, they swallow it hook, line and sinker.
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I think the right hates Obama and Clinton far more, even today. Trump is bringing disgrace upon himself, his critics cannot do that.
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WMK: trump did NOT condemn the violence and the KKK in his first statement, without also condemning the peaceful, moral factions. He COULD NOT and WILL NOT just condemn white supremacist groups because they are the one of the most loyal contingencies of his base. He needs them. He courts them. He is complicit in their hatred and racism. Whatever he did the other day, he was forced to do, and it was OBVIOUS that he was not happy about having to condemn them as he should have to begin with.
Yes, trump is hated, and not like Obama was hated by racists, merely for being African-American. trump is hated for his greed, his arrogance, his corruption, his stupidity, his racism, his xenophobia, his misogyny, his pathological mendacity, and because he is a con man and a thug. A person who does not pay people who work for him. A person who insults people left and right. A person who lies ABOUT EVERYTHING. A serial philanderer and sexual predator. A braggart. A blowhard. A cruel, miserable, sadistic, nasty, evil destructive force. An anti-intellectual. An elitist, entitled NOTHING. A LOSER who had 4, 5, or 6 bankruptcies depending upon the source. A malignant narcissist, clearly suffering from psychiatric problems, which have been noted by multiple psychologists and psychiatrists, An obstructor of justice. And quite possibly a traitor.
As to whether he will stay in The White House, this is not dependent upon your assertion, but upon Mueller's investigation, primarily.
Yes, trump is hated, and not like Obama was hated by racists, merely for being African-American. trump is hated for his greed, his arrogance, his corruption, his stupidity, his racism, his xenophobia, his misogyny, his pathological mendacity, and because he is a con man and a thug. A person who does not pay people who work for him. A person who insults people left and right. A person who lies ABOUT EVERYTHING. A serial philanderer and sexual predator. A braggart. A blowhard. A cruel, miserable, sadistic, nasty, evil destructive force. An anti-intellectual. An elitist, entitled NOTHING. A LOSER who had 4, 5, or 6 bankruptcies depending upon the source. A malignant narcissist, clearly suffering from psychiatric problems, which have been noted by multiple psychologists and psychiatrists, An obstructor of justice. And quite possibly a traitor.
As to whether he will stay in The White House, this is not dependent upon your assertion, but upon Mueller's investigation, primarily.
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Why isn't the Nazi flag and salute banned in the US? Punishable with jail time and fines.
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The first amendment to the US constitution.
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Illinois House says it is!
Yes, Dave, but I think it is wrong to allow HATE SPEECH, DEATH SPEECH...It is just wrong. First amendment or no first amendment. I suppose, though, maybe it is better to allow these haters to SPEAK, and maybe that will get some of the hatred out of them, rather than have them ACT upon their hatred...but I do not believe that the release of their putrid ideology, if SPOKEN, will prevent them from ACTION. And hate speech foments, riles up, encourages...other murderous lunatics.
Donald Trump can do nothing right, does not care, and he doesn't think he needs to.
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There's the new Democratic slogan for 2020. Nice job!
Trump has released the worst elements of this country by giving them a platform. All true patriots will fight against Trump, his white nationailst supporters and the GOP enablers that gave him the power to destroy our democracy. This is not about freedom of speech is is about fighting the rise of fascism that is Trump's true objective.
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"...a race-related murder..."
Race-related? Wrong, certainly, but race-related?
The killer was white. His victim was white. Nearly all alt-right protesters were white. Nearly all anti-alt-right protesters were white. Where, exactly, does the "race-related" part come in? This was plain old-fashioned murder, not "race-related" murder.
Race-related? Wrong, certainly, but race-related?
The killer was white. His victim was white. Nearly all alt-right protesters were white. Nearly all anti-alt-right protesters were white. Where, exactly, does the "race-related" part come in? This was plain old-fashioned murder, not "race-related" murder.
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If you are a white person and do not support White Supremacists' agenda, they don't consider you white.
MyThreeCents: It was a race-related murder because the victim was standing up for the rights of African Americans, Jews, and other people that groups like the KKK and their ilk consider "non-White." Thus, it was indeed race-related. He didn't kill her because she was white--he killed her because she stood up for those who are NOT! This poor, beautiful, fine, decent, thoughtful, kind young woman...dead because of a racist monster.
The killer was a white, white supremacist. The victim was white, protesting against white supremacists and racism. The killer was a terrorist, attacking people not for the color of their skin, but to terrorize minorities, and all those who stand with them.
So, yes, it's entirely race related.
So, yes, it's entirely race related.
This was a gut wrenching second statement for Trump denouncing the KKK, neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists which proves his affection for them. The first statement was handled much like his conflicts of interest by placing his business ownership in a "blind trust". A deceptive lie.
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3 CEOs stood up to his low standards and walked out of his friendship group.
They don't care about America, the rest of them dining at Trump's tables.
They don't care about America, the rest of them dining at Trump's tables.
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Banker's Club Bullies!
If Trump stands by what he says, then his message in Heather Heyer's condolence book should read "I'm very sorry for the loss of your daughter at the hands of many, many sides. Many sides, a few of which I courted and sought approval of during the recent election, and who apparently still support me". However you may want to interpret this, Trump does have a role in this sad, despicable act.
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"...what if collusion can be proven; then what? Is it enough to install Mike Pence as POTUS? ... I'm not implying Hilary Clinton is installed as POTUS ..."
If not Hillary Clinton, who should become President? If you don't think you should be the one to answer that question, whom do you think should answer it? The voters?
If not Hillary Clinton, who should become President? If you don't think you should be the one to answer that question, whom do you think should answer it? The voters?
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The order of succession far as I know is the VP, the House speaker and the Secretary of State.
It's pretty clear where DJT's sympathies lie -- and it's not with those who have any decency or those who value the common good. Instead, as Nancy Pelosi said, he faced in the road and took it -- along with those thugs brandishing automatic weapons and spewing hate speech. That's right -- his base.
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I cringed when Hillary said "basket of deplorables"
But now not so much. Deplorables isn't a strong enough word for his supporters.
But now not so much. Deplorables isn't a strong enough word for his supporters.
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And none of this matters!!! Zip, nada, zilch! All of you have to wake up to the one reality that matters here and that is his base. Currently he has a rock solid 32% to 34% approval rating and yes, I acknowledge it has dropped, but it will never be enough for any of this to matter. I can't stand the guy, but what I haven't heard from any reporting is what if collusion can be proven; then what? Is it enough to install Mike Pence as POTUS? And if however this all shakes out, what if that's exactly what happens when it's all said and done? Every doggone one of us is condemning Trump for his lack of promptness and all of you are right, but what difference does it make? I'm not implying Hilary Clinton is installed as POTUS, but if Trump and Co. were in co-hoots with the Russians; then someone tell me what's fair. Where do we go from here?
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Too many of us were lazy and didn't bother to vote.
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yes it would seem the only fair thing would be to have another election
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"Currently he has a rock solid 32% to 34% approval rating...I acknowledge it has dropped..."
So which is it Bill, "rock solid" or "dropping?" Because from where I stand, it was in the 40s a few short weeks ago and is now in the mid-30s.
And that was polling before the N. Korea and Charlottesville fiascos, which may have been spurred by those tanking poll numbers. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is down in the 20s in the next national poll.
So which is it Bill, "rock solid" or "dropping?" Because from where I stand, it was in the 40s a few short weeks ago and is now in the mid-30s.
And that was polling before the N. Korea and Charlottesville fiascos, which may have been spurred by those tanking poll numbers. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is down in the 20s in the next national poll.
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As satisfying as it will be to see this grotesque being thrown out of office in 2020, I shudder to think of the havoc that millions of his angry, armed ciphers will bring to our streets. Charlotte could be a microcosm of that maelstrom.
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Please let it be long before 2020. We've had DAILY disruption in our lives since 1/20 (well, since 11/9 really) because of this unhinged so-called leader.
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It took so long for Trump to issue a second statement because somebody had to EXPLAIN what was so wrong and horrible about what he failed to denounce the first time. What an idiot this man is, morally and unfit in every other way to be the President.
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He buys into the lie that opposing the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists is somehow reverse discrimination.
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This is horrible. We have a president who gives pause to condemning hate groups. Does he not even think about his family? His daughter converted to Judaism because she married someone Jewish. This means that his grandkids are Jewish. Shame on you Mr. Trump!
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The Justice Department reportedly has subpoenaed the IP addresses and browser-name identities of everyone who visited the ANTI-alt-right website before the Charlottesville protests. A commenter wondered whether the JD would issue (or had issued) the same subpoena covering everyone who visited the PRO-alt-right website.
I certainly hope so.
I certainly hope so.
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And he immediately tweets a cartoon of a CNN reporter being run over by a train, two days after a woman was murdered by a Nazi on American soil. AND he considers pardoning Joe Arpaio, another racist.
Bipartisan, feel good resolutions condemning racism are MEANINGLESS as long as the leader of the white supremacists and his Nazi cronies like Bannon are still in the White House. If the GOP wants to show they really mean what they say, they should start impeachment proceedings NOW.
Bipartisan, feel good resolutions condemning racism are MEANINGLESS as long as the leader of the white supremacists and his Nazi cronies like Bannon are still in the White House. If the GOP wants to show they really mean what they say, they should start impeachment proceedings NOW.
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If Mr. Trump were working for Mr. Trump in one of Mr. Trump's hotels and said hotel had experienced the type of bad publicity and ineptitude the White House has since Mr. Trump took over management, Mr. Trump would have fired Mr. Trump by now.
Too bad we have to wait four years to do the same.
Too bad we have to wait four years to do the same.
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As an Afro-American, I anticipate Trump will be impeached in a few days because of these charges of racism, which is specified by the Constitution.
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I doubt Trump will ever be impeached.
Maybe die in office (he's the oldest person ever elected President, by a considerable margin), or voted out of office in 2020. In the immediate future, the Democrats need to focus on the 2018 mid-term elections: resolve their "left v. center" internal dispute, field some good candidates, back them financially and get them elected. If they do that, Trump will be on the ropes in 2020. If they don't, he won't be. Simple as that.
Maybe die in office (he's the oldest person ever elected President, by a considerable margin), or voted out of office in 2020. In the immediate future, the Democrats need to focus on the 2018 mid-term elections: resolve their "left v. center" internal dispute, field some good candidates, back them financially and get them elected. If they do that, Trump will be on the ropes in 2020. If they don't, he won't be. Simple as that.
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I wish!
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I agree with you that trump should be impeached, and that he has supported racists. Even despite the statement he made on Monday, he is still racist and not fit to be POTUS. However, I am wondering where in the U.S. Constitution racism is specified as grounds for impeachment. So far as I know, grounds for impeachment specifically mentioned there are, ".... treason, and other high crimes and misdemeanors." So far as I am concerned, a racist act by government IS a high crime, but I don't believe it is specified, unfortunately. Amendments to the Constitution do make provisions for equal treatment under the law, though enforcement has certainly not been consistent.
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Donald Trump simply does not deserve respect.
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He had any moral standing left to damage?
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Why haven't the rest of the CEO's on the American Manufacturing Council resigned?
If they won't, why don't they come out with a unified statement against racism and a call for Trump to stand against it? Failing to do so makes them complicit in supporting a President who is racist in practice if not in fact.
If they won't, why don't they come out with a unified statement against racism and a call for Trump to stand against it? Failing to do so makes them complicit in supporting a President who is racist in practice if not in fact.
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I'm not sure what point Mr Frazier believes he makes by resigning, but he leaves a seat vacant that could have really made a difference. Quitting solves nothing. Sad really.
You do know, he's not the only one that resigned?
Not everyone can work with a Bully. It can take more patience than watching a Tree Grow.
And many that have the option not to do so, are prone to exercise it.
Not everyone can work with a Bully. It can take more patience than watching a Tree Grow.
And many that have the option not to do so, are prone to exercise it.
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When you lay with dogs you only get lice. Please identify one action taken by Trump that would elevate any community of color or poor whites? Anything? Yes, sad really.
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This is a failed presidency in every possible definition. Total lack of leadership, respect and understanding demonstrated daily from this White House. He is making America weaker by dividing us and causing other nations to lose trust and respect. How much more will we have to endure?
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1. Take a close look at the video of Trump's belated remarks. And a close listen. Compare his demeanor and voice to past times when speaking out against Muslims committing acts of terrorism. Then you will know which denouncements were heartfelt and which is expediency of the moment. Plus, we already know that Trump's words can never be trusted to reflect reality, anyway.
2. Notice the last phrase of his recent condemnation, "...and other hate groups." Dog whistle. The alt-righters read into that phrase Black Lives Matter and other liberal or leftist groups that they claim are minority hate groups. Trump was forced into a specificity he so disdained that he couldn't finish his statement without broadening the reference yet again, even though this was a moment crying out for limiting reference to the participants of this single weekend's outrage.
2. Notice the last phrase of his recent condemnation, "...and other hate groups." Dog whistle. The alt-righters read into that phrase Black Lives Matter and other liberal or leftist groups that they claim are minority hate groups. Trump was forced into a specificity he so disdained that he couldn't finish his statement without broadening the reference yet again, even though this was a moment crying out for limiting reference to the participants of this single weekend's outrage.
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Further evidence and Trump cannot and will not change - this morning he retweeted and then deleted an image of a training running over a CNN reporter. Absolutely sickening given the murder by car of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville. This is the authentic, unscripted immoral Trump. This man shows himself every time he tweets.
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Trump's so called "rebuke" is scripted as are his other lame attempts at pretending to care about people of color, Muslims, Mexicans, LGBTQ, women, to name a few. Why are people hoping and expecting him to behave any differently than he has his entire life and during his campaign? HIs history shows his true colors - any change in behavior or rhetoric would be a phony act so why even dream of it happening. Never expect this racist man to change. That is who is he at his core.
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Most Americans distinguish free speech from violent attacks. That is why they want to see authorities -- state and federal -- lock up the guy who drove that car through protesters and throw away the key.
This is not one-sided. The same distinction applies to both sides. For example, the people who punched what's his name (the alt-right protest organizer) during his press conference yesterday, should be prosecuted too, as should the key members of the mob that tore down the Confederate statue in Durham, NC. But two wrongs don't make a right. Nothing justifies driving one's car into a group of protesters, trying (successfully) to kill or hurt them.
This is not one-sided. The same distinction applies to both sides. For example, the people who punched what's his name (the alt-right protest organizer) during his press conference yesterday, should be prosecuted too, as should the key members of the mob that tore down the Confederate statue in Durham, NC. But two wrongs don't make a right. Nothing justifies driving one's car into a group of protesters, trying (successfully) to kill or hurt them.
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Trump's latest message about the Charlotte march and violence cleverly skirts a major issue: his condemnation of racism, and white supremacy, the KKK and neo-Nazis does not condemn "white nationalism." Many of the spokespersons of this ideology deny they are white supremacists. They said that only want to protect and defend whites as a nation. Many of them want secession for whites from the US, presumably their new nation being in most of the Old Confederacy. Of course, implicit in their call for recognition of white rights or nationhood is that being forced to associate with non-whites and non-Christians in one country is unfair and unjust because they are lesser quality individuals culturally and morality.
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What moral standing ?
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"His moral standing as president???" Are you kidding? I suppose NYT must've referring to the general moral standing of the US presidency, since the weight of the office is supposed to carry some degree of moral authority. They could not POSSIBLY be referring to ANY morals that Donald Trump possesses.
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I've seen a lot of weak defenses here and elsewhere in the media that Trump should be left alone because he said the words and responded appropriately. However, saying that "many sides" we're to blame in a race-related murder and violence is like saying that the victim of a sexual assault is also to blame for the criminal act. And I'm sure that in the musty, dank cellar of Trump rationalizations that one is hiding out as well. Given his past statements on that score it wouldn't be a stretch to assume so.
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The Trump name is mud!
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Mud is too good for them.
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Richard Spencer says he didn't take Trump seriously. Take this seriously then, Spencer; there are many, many more of us Southerners that do not support you and will fight you to our last breath.
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Good for you.
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It is too late the damage has been done. He no longer has any, not that he has any credibility left. By waiting 2 days to denounce by name and not immediately after it happen that has shown the world who he is. That he is what many have always known. This is not the only issue what has he said about many other things that have happened recently. What was said about the marines lost from the Osprey crash. He does not represent nor does he care about representing the whole country. This will number his days.
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I'm sure that he fingers were crossed when he read off of the teleprompter while thinking " I need the Nazis, I need the Klan, I'm their man."
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"...his moral standing as president." Certainly, you jest; Mr. Trump has no moral standing and everyone he "touches" joins him.
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This is exactly what Trump thrives on! His lack of disdain for the alt right hate is because that is what is in his heart. Hate and disorder is what he looks forward to when he wakes up each day. Why should anyone be surprised?
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Guardian is reporting the Justice Department issued a subpoena for ALL the IP addresses and browser identifies of anyone who visited the web site used to organize the anti-Trump inauguration rally. Given the murder of a patriotic young woman who was bravely standing up for American values, does anyone think the Justice Department will do the same for the alt-right web sites that organized the Charlottesville alt-right rally?
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Trump is an amoral opportunist.
He won the election by pandering to hatred and prejudice.
His poll numbers are slipping.
He is afraid of what Mueller's investigation will reveal.
After all Trump knows what he did.
To avoid impeachment Trump needs to keep the support from his base.
While not all of his base are racists enough are so that Trump did not want to alienate them.
Thus Trump's first statement blamed both sides.
Only public outrage forced Trump to make his later statement.
He won the election by pandering to hatred and prejudice.
His poll numbers are slipping.
He is afraid of what Mueller's investigation will reveal.
After all Trump knows what he did.
To avoid impeachment Trump needs to keep the support from his base.
While not all of his base are racists enough are so that Trump did not want to alienate them.
Thus Trump's first statement blamed both sides.
Only public outrage forced Trump to make his later statement.
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trump has no moral standing whatsoever. He is a fake, a fraud and a failure.
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It takes 2 to riot. Rioting ia NOT a solo activity. The President was right the first time. All Participants in a riot are wrong and all sides need to be called out. There is no good or bad side in a riot. ALL are doing something wrong and the President was right the first time to call out both side.
The efforts to smear only one side, overlooks the fact that that side had a valid permit to march. They were set up on by the so-called counter-protesters.
When a valid march is taking place the police have an obligation to keep those who lack a permit away from the march. They are able to keep two sides separate in big cities, but Charlottesville is really a small town and the police were not trained to handle the situation. The Governor should have had the national guard involved from the very beginning.
The efforts to smear only one side, overlooks the fact that that side had a valid permit to march. They were set up on by the so-called counter-protesters.
When a valid march is taking place the police have an obligation to keep those who lack a permit away from the march. They are able to keep two sides separate in big cities, but Charlottesville is really a small town and the police were not trained to handle the situation. The Governor should have had the national guard involved from the very beginning.
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The white nationalists arrived with offensive weapons. The protesters arrived with placards. The confrontation turned into a riot. Which side do you suppose was resposible for the violence ?
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You tell 'em Judy! Everything was just fine in Normandy until those wild-eyed Allied soldiers stormed the beaches (no permits!) inciting violence and destruction. The fake news doesn't blame them at all, it's so unfair!
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No Judy, the "president" was wrong. When one side represents justice and morality, and the other side represents injustice, immorality, hatred, and rot, the second side is the side at fault. In ALL cases. The HATEFUL, ROTTEN second side WANTED engagement/conflict/WAR with the MORAL, JUST side. Those rot-filled low lifes who hate blacks, hate Jews, hate anyone who is not like them, WANT TO HARM AND KILL. That is their agenda, their love, their reason for waking each morning. People who are good, just, moral, and who are against what is wrong and evil do not want to harm and kill. Don't blame the police or the governor. As anyone knows, when you have an out of control, RAGING, HATE-FUELED, EVIL faction, CARRYING WEAPONS (!), it is not that the Charlottesville police were not "trained," it is that they would have had to open fire, and kill many people, which they avoided doing. Even the most "trained" police forces would have had a difficult time with this. The Charlottesville police are to be commended that there were not more people killed. A second thought of mine is that if people want to march IN FAVOR OF HATE, it should never be allowed. I am all for free speech, but not for HATE speech. All over the world, I deplore haters, but this is my country, and I feel that anyone who is full of hate towards any others (who never harmed them, and whom they don't even know!!!!!) because of race, color, or religion...should find another planet to live on.
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Hey give him a break. He was busy tweeting how great a candidate he has in Alabama and how unfair CNN news coverage is.
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and don't forget bashing Ken Frazier (Merck) and talking about fake news. I guess he figures if he says it enough, it becomes true?
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Terence: Someone should handcuff his little hands behind his back, and then: VOILA! No more tweeting!
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Moral standing? He has no moral standing. He is a serial philanderer, an unrepentant liar, remorseless offender, a harbor for terrible people, corrupt narcissist who only ever cares about himself and his family. He does not even care for those who profess and exhibit loyalty to him, treating those who do with a flippancy and shocking disregard. He is utterly unfit to be even the head of his own company. He disgusts me, and all thinking, considerate people.
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My goodness. I wasn't fell too bad about him when he was elected at the beginning of the year. But now I am scared about his action, I begin to think about whether America People made a huge mistake to elected him, and hopefully his obvious personal belief that engraved in his bones will not encourage further damage to the country.
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The KKK and neo-Nazi boys basically hate everyone different than them; it's just a matter of degree as to how much they hate each group.
So, why did Trump omit the following from his statement: anti-Semitism; Islamophobia; anti-Hispanic; anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender; anti-Vietnamese; anti-progressive; xenophobia; et al. ?
So, why did Trump omit the following from his statement: anti-Semitism; Islamophobia; anti-Hispanic; anti-lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender; anti-Vietnamese; anti-progressive; xenophobia; et al. ?
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Maybe because for once he couldn't bring himself to lie.
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Too many big words.
Too little, too late.
Trump's statement was robotic, scripted, and it stuck in his craw. He never mentioned the hapless victim in Charlottesville (as opposed to his extended rants about people killed by "illegal immigrants").
The alt-Right has already been strengthened and encouraged by his non-response, and now that he has named them, they are openly stating that "he didn't really mean it" or "the Democrats forced him to say it." They are planning even more rallies and have gone big on social media saying things like: "This is a new day for our movement"
Trump has unleashed a monster on America, and he has barely done anything to contain it.
If he were serious, he would fire Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka. These unvetted, unelected creatures are the source of much of the bigoted rhetoric in the White House. Firing them would be a true signal to the neo-Nazis and white supremacists that they have no place in our republic.
Trump's statement was robotic, scripted, and it stuck in his craw. He never mentioned the hapless victim in Charlottesville (as opposed to his extended rants about people killed by "illegal immigrants").
The alt-Right has already been strengthened and encouraged by his non-response, and now that he has named them, they are openly stating that "he didn't really mean it" or "the Democrats forced him to say it." They are planning even more rallies and have gone big on social media saying things like: "This is a new day for our movement"
Trump has unleashed a monster on America, and he has barely done anything to contain it.
If he were serious, he would fire Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka. These unvetted, unelected creatures are the source of much of the bigoted rhetoric in the White House. Firing them would be a true signal to the neo-Nazis and white supremacists that they have no place in our republic.
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He has been fomenting this since he had the grain of an idea to run for president. He is totally in his element now. He loves what's going on and can't wait for it to get worse and more chaotic, ala Steve Bannon's chaos deconstruction theory.
Trump is just mad they made him say anything against the Nazis and KKK. Remember this is a man who sleeps with Mein Kampf at his bedside and who ask why if we have so many nuclear weapons we don't use them.
Trump is just mad they made him say anything against the Nazis and KKK. Remember this is a man who sleeps with Mein Kampf at his bedside and who ask why if we have so many nuclear weapons we don't use them.
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You can call me a racist or bigot, but I truly believe that the vast majority of Trump's supporters were on the side of those marching for white supremacy in Charlottesville. Maybe they didn't come out and say it outright, but in their hearts it is what they believe. It is how Trump got elected, and he has nothing to fear in terms of his loyal followers from his actions the past few days.
SMK
SMK
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SMK: Mostly, you are right. VERY MOSTLY. (Yes, I mean VERY MOSTLY...incorrect grammatically, but SO correct emotionally.) Some rich people voted for him just for the tax cuts, but most of the other ones share his ugly, hateful, racist, exclusionary view of the world.
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If Trump really was repulsed and outraged by white supremacists and Neo Nazis chanted "Blood and Soil" and Jews will not replace us, he would have gotten out ahead of it immediately.
Friday night, as the Klansman without hoods carried their torches on the UVA campus, he would have gotten on the phone with Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) and ordered the National Guard to Charlottesville to protect public safety at Saturdays scheduled march. After all, he does fancy himself as the Law and Order president.
He would have addressed the nation either Friday night or Saturday morning and forcefully denounced the hate groups. Instead he watched it all play out, gave a half hearted denunciation preceded by tooting his own horn and went on his way until forced to read words written by someone else, after tooting his own horn and refused to answer questions.
Followed by a "you just can't satisfy these fake news people" tweet.
Time for this Jewish girl to explore exit strategies. This is not my country anymore.
Friday night, as the Klansman without hoods carried their torches on the UVA campus, he would have gotten on the phone with Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) and ordered the National Guard to Charlottesville to protect public safety at Saturdays scheduled march. After all, he does fancy himself as the Law and Order president.
He would have addressed the nation either Friday night or Saturday morning and forcefully denounced the hate groups. Instead he watched it all play out, gave a half hearted denunciation preceded by tooting his own horn and went on his way until forced to read words written by someone else, after tooting his own horn and refused to answer questions.
Followed by a "you just can't satisfy these fake news people" tweet.
Time for this Jewish girl to explore exit strategies. This is not my country anymore.
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"Moral standing"? Trump's "moral standing" is, like Abraham Lincoln's coffin, buried under tons and tons of concrete and maybe someday someone will dig it up.
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Mr, Kee...not even buried under tons and tons of concrete! You cannot bury THAT WHICH NEVER WAS! But I know what you are saying. You would like to think that there is some moral standing buried deep within him...I truly believe that there is not. Some people have no redeeming qualities. NONE. And it is interesting to me how many people of this ilk are amongst the very, very wealthy. (Not that there are not so many of these people in other socio-economic groups.) But not just the very, very wealthy, but the very, very wealthy WHO WANT TO HARM THOSE WHO ARE NOT.
Donald Trump ran on a platform of hate and racism - that's the most rabid of his base, his most devoted. He has Gorka, Miller and Bannon giving him guidance. What does anyone expect? Jeff Sessions is a KNOWN racist - sort of pathetic, right? This is what a lot of the worst of America voted for. They don't care that Putin ensured his stealing of an election. To quote the orange incompetent, "sad!"
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The race war started before President Trump was elected into office. It has been going on for a long time and culminated in the founding of the white supremacist movement after the election. It was a reaction to the Black Lives Matter Movement which had formed while President Obama was in office. There were violent protests and rioting which ended in mass destruction to property (St. Louis, MO).
These polar opposite movements were formed due to each group feeling disenfranchised and forgotten by society. They felt neglected and their voices were not being heard. They felt safe and secure within these groups and could voice their displeasure at the lack of meaning in their lives. They took to the streets and people started listening.
Some of their concerns from both groups were legitimate but within each there was some rhetoric. What is the answer to this dilemma? Try to make these groups less appealing as they are causing division and chaos in our country.
These polar opposite movements were formed due to each group feeling disenfranchised and forgotten by society. They felt neglected and their voices were not being heard. They felt safe and secure within these groups and could voice their displeasure at the lack of meaning in their lives. They took to the streets and people started listening.
Some of their concerns from both groups were legitimate but within each there was some rhetoric. What is the answer to this dilemma? Try to make these groups less appealing as they are causing division and chaos in our country.
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The falsest of equivalencies. This tactic will not work.
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I'm sorry, but how exactly are a bunch of white guys in golf shirts and chinos "disenfranchised" and "not being heard"? How can you possibly equate the situation of people of color, or Jews, or members of the LGBT community, or women, who were noticeably absent among the fascist marchers, with these hatemongers, who refer to anyone unlike them as VERMIN? The mind boggles. It is impossible to equivocate. The Black Lives Matter movement is dedicated to redressing our society's entrenched ills. The Alt Right fascists wish to erase all gains made by disenfranchised constitutencies and return this nation to a mythical purity that in fact depends upon squashing the very people who have made BLM so vital and essential. I appreciate your effort to present a balanced viewpoint, but it is spectacularly wrongheaded.
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Unfortunately, women are, though fewer in number than men, fully a part of the pro-white (actually anti-other) hate groups. They were not absent from those in Charlottesville.
When POTUS doesn't believe what he's reading, it's like a person's been kidnapped telling their families (phone or video),
"I'm OK, they're treating me well, don't worry about me,.."
"I'm OK, they're treating me well, don't worry about me,.."
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MarkAntney: EXCELLENT analogy!
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“The statement today was more ‘kumbaya’ nonsense,” Mr. Spencer told reporters on Monday. “He sounded like a Sunday school teacher.”
“I don’t think that Donald Trump is a dumb person, and only a dumb person would take those lines seriously,” Mr. Spencer said.
Come on, Christians, you're being dismissed as dumb and nonsensical. Teaching "Love thy neighbor" makes you a laughingstock not to be taken seriously.
You've chosen some very strange bedfellows to further your "Christian" agenda.
“I don’t think that Donald Trump is a dumb person, and only a dumb person would take those lines seriously,” Mr. Spencer said.
Come on, Christians, you're being dismissed as dumb and nonsensical. Teaching "Love thy neighbor" makes you a laughingstock not to be taken seriously.
You've chosen some very strange bedfellows to further your "Christian" agenda.
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Someone needs to make America great again, but it won't be Donald Trump!
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Unfortunately, we elected a president who has no morals or ethics. And he has no common decency to acknowledge these things.
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Moral standing by Trump? My 6th and 8th grade students have MUCH more moral standing than the President of the United States!
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His "moral standing as president?"
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ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. The big bad wolf we are to fear. Trump has no problem running on that platform.
The Charlottesville protest shows that the white supremacists are in our country, alive and well, willing to use violence, and emboldened by our current administration. And yes, Congress. Did anyone not see this coming with Trumps silence earlier this year when the white nationalist held their pow wow on DC? Or when he wouldn't disavow David Dukes support?
Supremacists are in our communities, and many of us could probably point out one or two in our own families. They are all around us. Emboldened.
The Charlottesville protest shows that the white supremacists are in our country, alive and well, willing to use violence, and emboldened by our current administration. And yes, Congress. Did anyone not see this coming with Trumps silence earlier this year when the white nationalist held their pow wow on DC? Or when he wouldn't disavow David Dukes support?
Supremacists are in our communities, and many of us could probably point out one or two in our own families. They are all around us. Emboldened.
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They are IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Trump, Bannon, Miller, Gorka.
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Shame on Jeff Immelt, GE.
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Every CEO should resign from the Manufacturing Council because a Nazi supporter can't create jobs. Ivanka and Jared should lleave their White House roles because of the level of anti-Semitism at the rally. The GOP needs to oust the Alt-Right from the White House, including the president.
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Douglas McCarthy would be uncomfortably writhing in his grave, when he learns his military phrase ''too little too late'' is being cliched apace, by many news analysts, commentators, and observers. Trump, who regularly demolishes and trashes his opponents, both from within and without, by calling them names, was a bit demure and reticent when it came to reprobate the evil-doers, many of whom were almost exclusively from the KKK, and the white supremacist groups. One feels that as something unpalatable, to say the least. Trump, sure as heck, is something else, from a different creed and breed. Very perturbing.
And then his henchmen are scrambling to clean up his acts. What a bunch of losers! One was quite enthusiastic about a straight talking and straight shooting McMaster in Trump's coterie of stooges, but he too purred like a kitten, as regards his working relationships with Steve Bannon. It appears that the few generals in his cabinet are too eager to kowtow Trump, thus proving their recreant behaviors. It pains one to say all these.
If that is not being a bit craven, one does not fathom what else is. Trump's own GOP officials were undoubtedly nonplussed, when he mumbled something about ''evil from all sides''. That was patently pathetic.
And then his henchmen are scrambling to clean up his acts. What a bunch of losers! One was quite enthusiastic about a straight talking and straight shooting McMaster in Trump's coterie of stooges, but he too purred like a kitten, as regards his working relationships with Steve Bannon. It appears that the few generals in his cabinet are too eager to kowtow Trump, thus proving their recreant behaviors. It pains one to say all these.
If that is not being a bit craven, one does not fathom what else is. Trump's own GOP officials were undoubtedly nonplussed, when he mumbled something about ''evil from all sides''. That was patently pathetic.
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What a waste of time. This meant nothing to him, and I am baffled that he even did it. Did this hit the spot for anyone who was not already in the bag for Trump? I simply cannot allow myself to be comforted by a lie, especially when it is so clearly a lie. I might fall for one every now and then, but I am not in the habit of pulling the wool over my OWN eyes. You might be able to make him say it, but you are sure as heck not going to make him believe it. Or practice it.
Another thing I am having some difficulty with is the glaring insincerity of many of the Republicans who have spoken out. What you SAY isn't a fraction as important as WHAT YOU DO. Decrying racism and denouncing white supremacists in even the strongest tenor while surreptitiously signing legislation that heartily supports their agenda is not going unnoticed. How do you square that, GOP---I hate racists, but I love the way they think??"
Another thing I am having some difficulty with is the glaring insincerity of many of the Republicans who have spoken out. What you SAY isn't a fraction as important as WHAT YOU DO. Decrying racism and denouncing white supremacists in even the strongest tenor while surreptitiously signing legislation that heartily supports their agenda is not going unnoticed. How do you square that, GOP---I hate racists, but I love the way they think??"
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How about some condemnation to the other side. Rioting is not a solo activity. There was another group there participating in the riot. They need to be called out too. It is wrong to call out one side, the side with the valid permit, and not call out the side who lacked a permit but jumped in anyway. To me they are more at fault than the side with the permit.
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Judy, Judy, Judy...what is "the other side"? People who oppose the concept of White Supremacy, Nazis, and the KKK? How in the world can you equate one group with the other? The "other side" would not have been there but for the absolute need to show that the UtR group is not representative of the rest of America. Standing by while a group of people tell non-whites they have no business in this country and are inferior to whites is just wrong.
The people who were run down while marching in the counter protest were blocks away from the UtR marchers and they were absolutely peaceful. There is no one at fault here but the alt-right.
The people who were run down while marching in the counter protest were blocks away from the UtR marchers and they were absolutely peaceful. There is no one at fault here but the alt-right.
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Yes, they had a permit and a constitutional right to march, as disgusting as they are. But they came armed with sticks, shields and assault rifles, ready for trouble. It was not realistic to expect no one from the other side to show up. We don’t know which side threw the first bottle. But we got to see the more loathsome segment of Trump supporters for all of the rest of the country and the world to witness. And we got to see how utterly unfit Trump is to occupy the office of the president and to lead the country. Although I revile this man, I had a glimmer of hope that the high office would overawe him and that he would rise to the challenge. That lasted for one day – November 9, 2016. He is by far the worst president in our country’s history and only 6 months in. You can be rich and still be low class. It was a huge mistake to have elected him.
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The left sat idly by as Barack Hussein Obama refused to name Islamic Terror for 8 years. Now Trump condemns racism and hate, condemns the act and the perpetrator, but the left is up in arms because he didn't call them out by name??? Hypocrites---- and the fact that you still aren't happy after he names the groups shows all you want to do is hate.
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Nice try. But Trump's administration is overtly racist. Period.
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You clearly don't read much. There is a difference in not lumping an entire religion into an accusation of terror or a terrorist act when it doesn't apply and accusing a hate group of terror when the hate group itself visibly causes terror. Ok, so explanation 101 for you: Here's what would be an accurate comparison: The left calling for Trump to say that Charlottesville was an act of Christian White Supremacist Neo Nazis. Accept the fact that Trump is incompetent.
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Are you saying Obama didn't condemn terrorism? I think not. And white nationalists are Trump's base - which is why he refused to name them.
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This man is a racist, plain and simple. To think that he has a Jewish son-in-law and jewish grandkids. Ant yet. He had to be coerced into denouncing the KKK!!!!
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Well, Jared is exceptional in his ability to rip off the minorities his government funded building in NJ was intended to assist.
Jewish people can be racist, too. It is a human defect wrought of a over wrought amygdala. Different equals scary, or in Jared's case, undefended from his opportunism.
Jewish people can be racist, too. It is a human defect wrought of a over wrought amygdala. Different equals scary, or in Jared's case, undefended from his opportunism.
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“Racism is evil,”
I'd expect something like that to come out of the mouth of the pope, not the president of the US. It's nice to see we've finally begun the long march back to where we started from. Modernity was an interesting visit, certainly glad it's not a permanent one. Too much useless junk.
I'd expect something like that to come out of the mouth of the pope, not the president of the US. It's nice to see we've finally begun the long march back to where we started from. Modernity was an interesting visit, certainly glad it's not a permanent one. Too much useless junk.
Disingenuous statement from an empty soul.
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Ah, this poor, put upon President. His guardians in the White House made him say, "I will be good." And then right after he said it he knocked over the garbage can and spilled trash all over our yard.
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i understand that the White House has stopped making public , or at least now selectively screens the list of people visting for a meeting . The Secret Service will always have the full list even when people are disguised in anonymity or coming in through the back door. and then there is the Freedom of Information Act. i think we would be stunned by the people with Neo-Nazi ties who have meetings at the White House.
let's have a look: air is the best antiseptic.
let's have a look: air is the best antiseptic.
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Is this the same argument the far right tried to make about Obama not saying "radical Islamic terrorists," only on the left with Trump not saying "domestic terrorists?"
From an objective viewpoint, yes it is. It's not that easy.
Don't let Donald Trump make us forget who we are. We lose our soul when we begin to act like those we profess to disdain.
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."
From an objective viewpoint, yes it is. It's not that easy.
Don't let Donald Trump make us forget who we are. We lose our soul when we begin to act like those we profess to disdain.
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."
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Actually, it's quite different. Obama refused to normalize ISIS and turn them into a real nation by declaring them a political foe and he refused to denigrate an entire religion in the process. All of which would have inflamed them further and given them a status they otherwise would not have had. But Trump is simply protecting his own person and those who support him. And he did it in the most bored I-guess-I-have-to-do-this-but-I-don't-mean-any-of-it way possible. He simply read someone else's words in a bored monotone. Obama understood the meaning of the Presidency and acted accordingly. Trump only understands the pomp and ceremony and the "ratings." He doesn't understand or care about anything else.
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The monsters in charlottesville were the COunter Protest. They were the violent ones who decided to mix it up with those with a valid permit. They should be called out and shamed and some need to go to jail.
Judy, you've posted the same comment 4 different times. a flawed point, to boot. I think we've heard enough.
President Trump's belated denunciation of the alt-right came across as contrived, forced and totally insincere. He was only mouthing the words, clearly reluctantly and clearly under some duress. They did not come from his heart. He may have mouthed the words, but he clearly did not believe them.
Taken as a whole, Trump's public pronouncements, his actions and his body language strongly suggest that his real sympathies lie with those he saw parading in Charlottesville with their Tiki torches, resplendent in their khakis and white polos. The Tiki torch marchers clearly believe that Trump is their champion. How could they have gotten that notion, if it were not true?
Taken as a whole, Trump's public pronouncements, his actions and his body language strongly suggest that his real sympathies lie with those he saw parading in Charlottesville with their Tiki torches, resplendent in their khakis and white polos. The Tiki torch marchers clearly believe that Trump is their champion. How could they have gotten that notion, if it were not true?
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I have to laugh at the idea that Donald Trump has any "moral standing". The last President who had any moral standing left on January 20, 2017.
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If someone tells you it's the right thing to do and you grudgingly do it, is it sincere? I don't think so.
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In all this outrage over Trump, the central issue behind the incidents in Charlottesville - the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee - has been buried, and along with it the complex life of the South's most famous general. Of special relevance is the fact that during Lee's presidency of Washington College (now Washington and Lee University) after the Civil War, he repeatedly expelled white students for engaging in violence against blacks. He would have been the first to denounce the behavior of white supremacists in Charlottesville.
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The statue of Lee is riding a horse, perceptibly in battle. That's not Lee holding a book. There's no missing of the point here.
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This whole biased unfounded attack against Trump coordinated by the liberal media is an example of why Democrats lost the election and will continue to lose future elections.
Everyone knows Trump isn't a racist and doesn't support racist groups. He clearly stated this. Thankfully more than half of all Americans vote for Republicans.
Everyone knows Trump isn't a racist and doesn't support racist groups. He clearly stated this. Thankfully more than half of all Americans vote for Republicans.
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Not for long.
So you looked at his statement and concluded he was sincere?
Did you see the statements of multiple Amerinazi's saying his silence was encouraging?
If you think Americans will continue to vote to go down this dark past, you're as crazy as your Orange Overlord.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
So you looked at his statement and concluded he was sincere?
Did you see the statements of multiple Amerinazi's saying his silence was encouraging?
If you think Americans will continue to vote to go down this dark past, you're as crazy as your Orange Overlord.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
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Remember the "birther" movement he spawned - don't tell me he's not a racist. And BTW this is not about the liberal media - plenty of Republicans called him out as well. Get your facts straight about Republican voters too - don't forget Clinton won the popular vote.
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Except the plurality who voted for Hillary Clinton.
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Sadly, neo-Nazi marches and white supremacy rallies are exactly what the president means when he says "make america great again". Make no mistake.
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Trump's performance was like that of a child whose parent makes him apologize for hitting his sibling. The child mouths the correct words, but at no point does he mean them. He's not sorry. White supremacists got the message loud and clear: Trump still stands with them.
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"...white supremacists who incited bloody weekend demonstrations"
However disgusting the speech of the white supremacists may be, you seem to adopt the narrative that the Antifa rioters who were involved in causing the physical violence were forced to respond with violence because they disliked some others' views. Do you now promote violence as the way to silence different views?
Shameful.
However disgusting the speech of the white supremacists may be, you seem to adopt the narrative that the Antifa rioters who were involved in causing the physical violence were forced to respond with violence because they disliked some others' views. Do you now promote violence as the way to silence different views?
Shameful.
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This is not about freedom of speech. While the alt right doesn't doesn't publicize it much, the underlying premise is sedition and subversion of the Constitution: the establishment of a white etho state. Of course, Jews, blacks and other non whites would leave peacefully. This is what these ralliers are promoting. They have no right to agitate for sedition.
So Antifa is perfectly justified in violently assaulting them.
Because they don't think right.
Because they don't think right.
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Dealing with insurrectionists is a law enforcement issue.
DT is a white supremacist. Pure and simple. You can tell a person by the company keeps. Once we accept this obvious fact, DT's actions make perfect sense.
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I'm a big fan of Glenn Thrush, Maggie Haberman and all the NYT journalists trying to give fair coverage to this unprecedented presidency. It's a tough job. But it is way too tepid at this stage to simply characterize Trumps approach as 'go it alone' and his unbalanced angry tweet storms at respected CEOs and the legitimate news media as proof he is 'going to govern his own way.' Words carry meaning, and those normalize what is unconscionable behavior in the leader of the free world.
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Trump is a white supremacist, not to mention a crook--his real estate company discriminated against blacks, a family tradition; his father Fred Trump, was arrested in a KKK riot in New York, as reported in the Times last year. This is verifiable from other sources, the Klan were fighting the NYC police.
As for the members of his business panels, I note that one of those sitting tight in Trump's defense is Stephen Schwarzman, whose tarnished name is slathered over the majestic main branch of the NY Public Library. There's another tribute to racism, and in this instance that includes anti-Semitism, that needs to be removed, at once. And NYPL should keep his lucre as well, he doesn't have a better use for it. That's the people's library, we use it, we love it, take his tainted name of it.
As for the members of his business panels, I note that one of those sitting tight in Trump's defense is Stephen Schwarzman, whose tarnished name is slathered over the majestic main branch of the NY Public Library. There's another tribute to racism, and in this instance that includes anti-Semitism, that needs to be removed, at once. And NYPL should keep his lucre as well, he doesn't have a better use for it. That's the people's library, we use it, we love it, take his tainted name of it.
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Trump did not rebuke the White House Washington District of Columbia white supremacists Steven Bannon, Stephen Miller, Kelly Anne Conway, Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Sebastian Gorka. Trump did not rebuke American terrorism nor the American alt-right.
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The president finally found the appropriate words and sequence to meet the media's litmus test. Timing was not ideal so more time can be spent agonizing.
But how does POTUS Trump explain his birther lies, hiring alt-right champion Bannon, Sessions + Steve Miller, racist campaign, etc.???
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There is nothing confusing about any of this. Donald Trump is the white Supremist president. He campaigned that way and he's been that way throughout his presidency. He led the birther movement.
Are you not convinced?
Are you not convinced?
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Somebody wrote Trump a terrific speech for Monday, and Trump read it relatively competently (for him). Too bad that most of us know he doesn't really believe what he was saying--that was a pretty big crow he had to swallow! my compliments to the speechwriter, tho!!
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Wasn't Trump's dad involved in a racist brawl following a racist march? But let's not pick sides...
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Abby--Maybe, but you should look into the African American renters/residents he abused, over the years. His son-in-law does the same thing, in Baltimore, and HE'S Jewish, for heaven's sake! I'm sure this doesn't sit well with most American Jews, who generally have an entirely different view of their responsibility to their fellow Americans.
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Roger that. I read he and his father, Don and Fred, were only willing to settle charges of racist rentals if they didn't have to admit to their bigoted practices.
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It's astonishing to read that Trump still has "allies." What must he have to do for them to withdraw their support? How low is the bar for them in terms of acceptable conduct? Surely, they must be aware of the ignominy suffered by other unwavering supporters of the losers throughout history. Rarely are they able to maintain their own self-respect, let alone the respect of others. Maybe one of the final Trump allies will write about it one day and explain why they didn't turn away, and what gains, if any, their support brought them.
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He finally holds a news conference two days later to condemn white supremacists and Nazis, then on Twitter calls the news fake. Why won't he call out white supremacists and Nazis on Twitter?
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"his measured remarks came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president"
What Moral Standing?
What Moral Standing?
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Check your state's GOP Representatives and Senators to see who said nothing, or very little. Lots of GOPer Representatives in my state of Colorado did not say a word.
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As more of the neo-Nazis are being identified and exposed, they are trying to retrench, "soften" their views, sing "I'm not so bad." Cowards.
We should start publishing photos of these rallies regularly - there are more around -- and identifying participants. Good strategy.
We should start publishing photos of these rallies regularly - there are more around -- and identifying participants. Good strategy.
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Why did the car killer get booted out of the Army? Stealing for his cause? Nazis commit armed robberies to keep their clans funded. Bet Jeff Sessions is NOT looking into them.
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The real Donald Trump is the one behind the tweet about Kenneth Frazier, and so many other . The half-hearted, phony "rebuke" was merely for show, to get people off his back. Why must we continue to pretend otherwise? As David Remnick wrote recently:
"[...] when has any politician done so much, so quickly, to demean his office, his country, and even the language in which he attempts to speak? Every day, Trump wakes up and erodes the dignity of the Presidency a little more."
"[...] when has any politician done so much, so quickly, to demean his office, his country, and even the language in which he attempts to speak? Every day, Trump wakes up and erodes the dignity of the Presidency a little more."
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These eyes...a blue million miles they want to cry.
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I agree most whole heartily, my bud Capt. B!
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His remarks are all for show. Just look at his cabinet, nothing but white folks in it. Ben Carson who is the only black appointed is appointed as the head of HUD, a position of much less importance or priority or policy in the grand scheme of things. He is even less qualified than a real estate broker to hold this position. Let's call it what it is, let's be real...this is a President who is a closet supporter of white supremacy. This is what he has always been. That's his body of work in life by who he associates himself with. It's now new information or fake news, it's what it is...real. Let's stop pretending it is not.
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I do believe, given his first response to the Charlottesville tragedy, he has come out of the closet.
He made the second statement because of "tremendous" pressure from a lot of people. It was much too little and way too late.
He made the second statement because of "tremendous" pressure from a lot of people. It was much too little and way too late.
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In retrospect, maybe we can ask why was Hillary Clinton universally criticized for calling these people "Deplorables"?
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Hillary Clinton is a woman. A huge portion of America (about 40%) believes women has no basic human rights. Apparently, such sentiments can be found in the Bible.
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Trump is forced into saying a few words condemning white supremacists by his advisors, after a few days of resistance. He is pressured to fire or further isolate Bannon. But his racist base understands that he really supports them. His latest message about pardoning Arpaio got through. Trump only gets dragged kicking and screaming toward the center.
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In addition to a thorough Department of Justice investigation of the horrific events in Charlottesville, Congress should appoint a commission to evaluate the strength of the alt-right, Nazi, and white supremacist groups involved. We need to know more about the this movement and it's leaders; it and they represent a growing menace to our country and its ideals. Congress might begin this process by a joint resolution condemning these groups.
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That is not gonna happen...
They are part of their base.
They are part of their base.
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We have that information already, provided by The Southern Poverty Law Center. They track the number and strength of hate groups, and take legal action against them, when it is indicated. They provide important information and support all kinds of people everywhere in the US. They are always starved for resources for their important work. Look 'em up, it helps to know where to go and how to help.
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Agreed. This was not just a "demonstration" by the neo-fascists, it was also a kind of military exercise in which they tested their ability to move men and materiel into and out of a designated urban area. That's scary and subversive.
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Pence, Ryan, Mc Connell and the those silent in the GOP are equally without basic decency.
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An increase in violence provoked by the republican base will be a convenient excuse for scaling back freedom. Let us be clear also, these racists groups are a mainstay in the GOP and every GOP politician knows it.
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Why was "Trump, Bowing to Pressure..." the clickbait here?
That's exactly the headline Trump wants.
Why wasn't it "Trump, days after Charlottesville," or some such thing.
Or "NYT, Bowing to Pressure, Elects Clickbait Headline."
Its as much distressing news as anything else.
That's exactly the headline Trump wants.
Why wasn't it "Trump, days after Charlottesville," or some such thing.
Or "NYT, Bowing to Pressure, Elects Clickbait Headline."
Its as much distressing news as anything else.
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It wasn't clickbait, it was reality.
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Most everyone knew that his follow up comments, whatever they were, were going to be criticized.
Why would anyone believe him? He is the founder of the birther movement and his prejudice is plain for all to see. To think that this bigot could bring our country together is beyond belief.
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He finally denounces white supremacists then hours later retweets a post from a white supremacist. This is bizarre and at the same time very telling of his true feelings.
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Too many unanswered questions in this mess point to a baiting exercise.
1. Why give a protest permit to a "hate group"? They could have simply denied the permit.
2. Did BLM and Anti-fa have permits for the counter-protest?
3. Why were these groups not kept separate?
4. Why did the police and National Guard not intervene until things were out of hand?
5. Who started the violence?
6. If the white supremacists were "armed to the teeth" why are there no gunshot casualties?
It seems that this avoidable train wreck was let happen to get political mileage out of it and a whole yarn of media spin.
1. Why give a protest permit to a "hate group"? They could have simply denied the permit.
2. Did BLM and Anti-fa have permits for the counter-protest?
3. Why were these groups not kept separate?
4. Why did the police and National Guard not intervene until things were out of hand?
5. Who started the violence?
6. If the white supremacists were "armed to the teeth" why are there no gunshot casualties?
It seems that this avoidable train wreck was let happen to get political mileage out of it and a whole yarn of media spin.
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Yeah, the media planned the whole thing. lol!
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No, they could not have denied this group a permit. Freedom of speech for all to demonstrate PEACEFULLY. The ACLU defended both their right to demonstrate as well as Skokie Illinois Nazi demonstration back in the 70s. As repugnant as this group / groups are, they have a right to lawfully and peacefully have a demonstration. When violence ensues, the permit is essentially revoked which is what the Charlottesville police attempted to do.
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You missed the whole point.
Notice this line in the president's speech:
",,,we are all made by the same almighty God."
First, it is unconstitutional. The first amendment says each of us can believe or not believe in any gods we want to. While it is true that Islam grew out of Christianity and Christianity grew out of the Jewish religion, so they all worship the same God, Bhudda is not a god, and Hindus worship many gods.
Meanwhile I don't believe I was made by a god at all. (If you believe it takes intelligence to create something as complicated as life and human intelligence must be created by intelligence, then who created god?)
Second, along with taking three days to make this speech under duress from members of his own party and the media, and the phrase "other hate groups" which they will take to mean Black Lives Matter and and other anti-hate, and anti fascism groups, this sentence is code to the white supremacists who are looking for a defender of Christianity, like they call Putin. They believe he is on there side, and they will take his condemnation of them as a political move, not an actual rebuke, because we all know he is a habitual liar (since he contradicts himself daily.)
",,,we are all made by the same almighty God."
First, it is unconstitutional. The first amendment says each of us can believe or not believe in any gods we want to. While it is true that Islam grew out of Christianity and Christianity grew out of the Jewish religion, so they all worship the same God, Bhudda is not a god, and Hindus worship many gods.
Meanwhile I don't believe I was made by a god at all. (If you believe it takes intelligence to create something as complicated as life and human intelligence must be created by intelligence, then who created god?)
Second, along with taking three days to make this speech under duress from members of his own party and the media, and the phrase "other hate groups" which they will take to mean Black Lives Matter and and other anti-hate, and anti fascism groups, this sentence is code to the white supremacists who are looking for a defender of Christianity, like they call Putin. They believe he is on there side, and they will take his condemnation of them as a political move, not an actual rebuke, because we all know he is a habitual liar (since he contradicts himself daily.)
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Mr. Bannon's advice to the President is to appease the alt right as an important part of his base . But really, isn't the alt right is more important to Mr. Bannon's base of support? And Bannon in the White House gives the hate groups a measure of power that is way beyond what their numbers and message deserve, at the same time elevating Bannon's position of power. This symbiotic arrangement is not helping to bolster Trump's success. Yet the President continually allows Bannon to feed off him. Maybe the President is not as smart as he thinks.
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I think Robert E. Lee would be disgusted at the way Americans behave so long after the Civil War has ended. Move the monuments to museums with no announcement or date of removal. I have a law enforcement tip for all of America surely we can understand. - Never Permit a lawful gathering where people arrive with shields, sticks, aerosol cans, kkk clothing, burning crosses, knives, guns, chains, shackles, lighters, helmets, black masks, white masks, gas masks or anything that obviously is not for peaceful assembly. How many protesters and counter protesters went to jail and are being prosecuted for the disgusting display of ignorance and violence in Charlottesville? Besides the driver of the car (who makes a great case for the death penalty) and his evil partners in crime we have many more to jail. Donald Trump is not the answer to the problems American's need to take responsibility for, he is only another person to blame lack of common sense, civil behavior and personal responsibility on. God bless us all - we have the means and tools to behavior better in America.
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If the federal law enforcement authorities have locked up known hate groups (domestic terrorists) before, then why the hesitation with the KKK or White Nationalist groups? We cannot have selective enforcement of the laws, nor can we tolerate an outbreak of extremist protests based on failed ideologies. The greatest challenge will consist not just of overburdened police budgets and lack of manpower, but in the consistent enforcement of the law. Bigotry based on ignorance mischaracterizes American values and governance that allows selective enforcement to continue does not represent the best of our great nation either.
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I'm not the first to say: Too little, to late. You had your chance, but we all know you have a looong history of racism in your business. And, your lovely father, too. Resist. Remove.
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It feels like the leadership does not have the historical context of this great nation and trying to govern as if we are starting from scratch. Mr. President blew a great opportunity very early to show leadership but it is too late to correct.
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That's Bannon's alt-reality they are tuned to. They believe they are waging a race war on behalf of half the country.
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Dear NYT Editors: You misquoted Trump -- in the headline and in the body of the article. He did NOT denounce "white supremacists." He denounced "white supremists". Replay the tape. Listen to how he enunciates the word. He does NOT say "supremacists." He says "supremists".
It is a very telling verbal slippage. He's like a 4th grader pronouncing a word he's never used before. He says it incorrectly because it's new to him -- a word he has never enunciated. He saw it on the teleprompter as "supremacists" and read it aloud as "supremists". That he did so speaks volumes about his ignorance, white privilege, and denial of reality. Sometimes the tiniest bits of evidence pack a wallop of meaning.
The "newspaper of record" should issue a correction.
It is a very telling verbal slippage. He's like a 4th grader pronouncing a word he's never used before. He says it incorrectly because it's new to him -- a word he has never enunciated. He saw it on the teleprompter as "supremacists" and read it aloud as "supremists". That he did so speaks volumes about his ignorance, white privilege, and denial of reality. Sometimes the tiniest bits of evidence pack a wallop of meaning.
The "newspaper of record" should issue a correction.
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The WH statement no one would take credit for cited nephew-nazis instead of neo-nazis. Russians have lousy spell check.
Must not count in the crass world of nazi bingo.
Must not count in the crass world of nazi bingo.
The blind hatred of the media and the extreme bias in their reporting if fueling violent reactions. The Kathy Griffin beheading was the pinnacle of the hate filled ideology of the "Resist Movement". The media has so written so many falsehoods when reporting that nobody trusts them to get a Breaking Story correct. The gunning down of Congressmen on a baseball field and now a car ramming another car ramming another car into pedestrians and is currently under investigation for deliberate and calculated motives to harm others. The media throws more hatred on the fires. They have lost credibility outside of their small bubble of believers.
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Good grief! Both episodes were widely and thoroughly covered in the NYTimes, the WP, and every major media outlet. Politicians and pundits of every stripe universally condemned Griffin and the shooter on the baseball field. Griffin herself came out and issued an apology, that she had crossed a line. Her career is likely over, for what, in my opinion, was carrying a metaphor for the consequences of tyranny too far.
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Trump's winks and dog whistles are what's fueling the violence. THE NEO-NAZIS HAVE SAID SO THEMSELVES.
Compare a dingy comedian's bad, faked photo to re-enactments of Nazi rallies and the murder of an innocent, and the promise of more to come, sure.
Blame the free press, sure. Donald would love your support to shut it down.
Compare a dingy comedian's bad, faked photo to re-enactments of Nazi rallies and the murder of an innocent, and the promise of more to come, sure.
Blame the free press, sure. Donald would love your support to shut it down.
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trump is a coward.
"Cowardice is a trait wherein fear and excessive self-concern override doing or saying what is right, good, and of help to others or oneself in a time of need—it is the opposite of courage."
"Cowardice is a trait wherein fear and excessive self-concern override doing or saying what is right, good, and of help to others or oneself in a time of need—it is the opposite of courage."
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Too little, too late, not heartfelt. He looked at BOTH statements like the school bully being made by his mommy to apologize to the kid he just beat to a pulp. This president is a white supremacist who surrounds himself with neo-Nazis. That is the truth, and the sooner we face it and apply real pressure to Congress to do something about him, the better. And if they won't, it means that they too are sympathetic to racists, KKK-ers, and neo-Nazis and have no place in an American government. Period.
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Donald Trump is not a leader. He is a follower. Donald Trump cannot think deeply enough to have a positive effect in this country and the world.
He is sows chaos, not harmony.
He is sows chaos, not harmony.
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"Yet even Mr. Trump’s allies worried that his measured remarks came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."--NYTimes
What moral standing? At what point in this sad tale did he ever have moral standing? Good grief.
What moral standing? At what point in this sad tale did he ever have moral standing? Good grief.
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The Nazis and Confederacy are two of the most heinous enemies this country has ever faced, but Trump is not sure that he wants to condemn those who march under the Swastika and the Stars and Bars.
Our nation's patriots spilled their blood to defeat these evils, but Trump is not sure which side he is on.
Our nation's patriots spilled their blood to defeat these evils, but Trump is not sure which side he is on.
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What moral standing?
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That Trump needed to be "rebuked" to speak out against murderous neo Nazi fascists is a clear signal of his temperament and ideology. What clearer signal do we need?
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Trump "rebukes" the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville after several days and then tweets a picture of a train mowing down the CNN logo, which he (or somebody) has since removed. Gee, what message do you think that sends and to whom just days after a white supremacist's car mows down counter protestors?
Bannon and Miller still sit at Trump's right hand. He's rebuking nothing.
Bannon and Miller still sit at Trump's right hand. He's rebuking nothing.
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"Take Two" . . .
Trump has proven over and over that he has no hesitation - any time day or night - to INSTANTLY weigh in on an issue that catches his feeble attention.
Take One - Friday afternoon - after considerable time passing of tragic events - and clearly compelled by White House Staffers to "Say Something" !
We were all shocked and astonished by a wishy-washy blanket statement including; "many sides are to blame" . . .
The Nations and World outrage of both the actual incident in Charlottesville and the extremely weak response from the president to clearly direct blame and responsibility -
"Take Two"
After two days of Silence from the president - we got was something like a schoolboy who bloodied the nose of his classmate - was FORCED by his parents to apologize - - -
And that is exactly what we got on Monday -
The President was FORCED to name names - clearly against his "instincts" and we saw a passion-less declaration of actually naming the guilty parties.
The Nation and the World - save for a few zombie GOP-ers are not buying it !
Sadly for all of us - the depths as to just how bad a human being this man is - appears to be BOTTOMLESS !
Trump has proven over and over that he has no hesitation - any time day or night - to INSTANTLY weigh in on an issue that catches his feeble attention.
Take One - Friday afternoon - after considerable time passing of tragic events - and clearly compelled by White House Staffers to "Say Something" !
We were all shocked and astonished by a wishy-washy blanket statement including; "many sides are to blame" . . .
The Nations and World outrage of both the actual incident in Charlottesville and the extremely weak response from the president to clearly direct blame and responsibility -
"Take Two"
After two days of Silence from the president - we got was something like a schoolboy who bloodied the nose of his classmate - was FORCED by his parents to apologize - - -
And that is exactly what we got on Monday -
The President was FORCED to name names - clearly against his "instincts" and we saw a passion-less declaration of actually naming the guilty parties.
The Nation and the World - save for a few zombie GOP-ers are not buying it !
Sadly for all of us - the depths as to just how bad a human being this man is - appears to be BOTTOMLESS !
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Just because some people are simpletons , and couldn't grasp the message originally, he did have to simplify the message for those unable to understand. People say he didn't call out specific groups. He called out the violence, the rally and specific groups were responsible for it, so how hard is it to comprehend that message? So, if he doesn't send out a laundry list of each individual nut case, he supports these people? That is what is ridiculous. If Trump said it was a flower was lovely, critics would say he is bigoted against grass, or shrubs that don't produce flowers, and that it is sexist to say anything is beautiful, because he is implying that beauty is something that is normally attributed to women, and so on. Please change the record, it has a scratch in it, and I am tired of hearing the same song.
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He did not call out the groups responsible for it. He did not even call out the rally. He said this kind of thing has been going on for years, and that "many sides" are to blame. The very people you claim he was condemning took this wishy washy statement as SUPPORT of their cause. That is a problem. When you are the President, what you DON'T say matters every bit as much as what you do say.
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When he said there are many sides to blame, he meant for the violence that erupted and that is quite true.
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Being late is the same as being wrong.
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Except if it's to your own funeral.
Too little. Too late. And, far, far, far too insincere.
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He was so thick with the hand gestures, all which said, "You won't believe what I'm about to tell you."
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DT has again shown the inability to lead this country. Despite his self aggrandizement he has shown himself no capabilities to lead. His only ability is to sympathize with those who make up the top economic 1%. His intellectual power is nonexistent.
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"Even Mr. Trump’s allies worried that his measured remarks, delivered two days after dozens of public figures issued more forceful denunciations of the violence in Virginia, came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president." This president has no moral standing because he has no moral center. He lies, he cheats- on his wives, and in his business dealings, he has defrauded his customers, he prays to the almighty dollar only.
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Many political pundits are asking is Donald Trump's hesitancy to call out neo-nazis and white supremacist politically motivated? His behavior, throughout his life, shows that he is motivated by bigotry. His accusations of young black men in a NYC assault, his "birtherism" crusade, his comments on Mexicans, Muslims and the disabled are proof of his thoughts and feelings. The late Maya Angelou said (please forgive this paraphrase) "when someone shows you who they are believe them". Donald Trump is a racist "believe it".
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Some people just can't take yes for an answer. No matter what Trump does or says, he'll be criticized. Time to move on...
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Why aren't you moving (on)?
It would be (more than) apparent you have; if you weren't here.
You appear reluctant to follow your own advisement.
It would be (more than) apparent you have; if you weren't here.
You appear reluctant to follow your own advisement.
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You can move on, but most of us are going to seriously reflect on what is happening to this country.
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Trump will try his best to bring us all down to his level in the muck! If there is anything positive about the disgraceful election of this huckster as our President, it is that so many Americans refuse to be dragged down to his level.
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What, really, do these groups expect the president to do?
Presidents have been condemning despicable acts for decades, what does it change, nothing the world is as hateful as ever and to make believe that the president is going to make a difference by coming out with a statement is beyond ridiculous.
Oh Mr. Pres., you condemn the act, well, in that case we will not do it anymore!
Presidents have been condemning despicable acts for decades, what does it change, nothing the world is as hateful as ever and to make believe that the president is going to make a difference by coming out with a statement is beyond ridiculous.
Oh Mr. Pres., you condemn the act, well, in that case we will not do it anymore!
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You are wrong.
This is about symbolism and morality....Trump's initial reaction says it all....Bannon told him it does not matter....Kelly told him he made a mistake...Monday was an attempt at trying to correct it.
It does matter because he is the President.
Unfortunately.
This is about symbolism and morality....Trump's initial reaction says it all....Bannon told him it does not matter....Kelly told him he made a mistake...Monday was an attempt at trying to correct it.
It does matter because he is the President.
Unfortunately.
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Just as Trump's words during his campaign and afterwards has emboldened racists in our country when he was elected President, his limp and insincere condemnation again condones their actions.
As Trump himself said, "I stand for nothing." For once, Trump told us the truth.
As Trump himself said, "I stand for nothing." For once, Trump told us the truth.
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It should be obvious to anyone who serves on any of these boards Trump has set up, from my perspective for photo ops, that an unspoken oath of loyalty is in effect. Things can only get worst from here on.
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Trump's body language says it all. He is speaking without conviction. He sound like someone who's mouthing words because he has to. The David Dukes and Richard Spencer's of the world know he's winking at them and they know he has their back. For the rest of us, he is a supreme national embarrassment.
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My late father-in-law stormed the beaches in Normandy and participated in the Battle of The Bulge. He carried a sadness inside of him his entire life and would never talk about his experiences. Many American families like my own have lost loved ones fighting the evils of Nazism. Those who march with and display symbols of the Nazi regime should be considered anti-American and our enemy. Free speech is one thing but those people are aligning themselves with what was our greatest enemy.
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President T was harsher in his condemnation of Senators Sessions and O'Connell than he was of David Duke and the KKK. A day late and a dollar short? President of the Red [Confederate] States of America? Apologize. Apologize and resign!
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NO Lives Matter to Donald Trump. All that really matters to him is his money ... and his ego. And since the extremists showed him the love by helping him to get "elected," they are his kind of people.
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As soon as the liberal left stops their hateful speech towards our current president, I'll start listening. Until then, all I hear is their hypocrisy.
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If you're going to frequent the NYTs (and I hope you do BTW) you're gonna be doing a lot of not Listening.
Not everyone LOVEs a Bully, especially those that are stubborn, non repentant, and blatant. But then again, I have to admit; I believe most GOOD(?) Bullies meet those requirements:):)
Not everyone LOVEs a Bully, especially those that are stubborn, non repentant, and blatant. But then again, I have to admit; I believe most GOOD(?) Bullies meet those requirements:):)
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He built his campaign and his presidency on hateful speech. Until he changes that, and we can be pretty sure he won't, he's going to get called out.
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We didn't hear you condemn the Nazis responsible for those deaths in Virginia. But you'll waste effort defending a "president" who was sued for racist housing discrimination in the 70's and who played the "Birther" card against Obama just a few years ago. In other words,you're defending a man who's been a racist all his life. Hypocrisy, indeed.
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Even with this statement, Trump has what he was after. He has the racists in his corner.
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Trump is a fighter. He fights dirty. He fights to win. Why would anyone expect a champion fighter to speak out against fighters like him? To Trump, having to be specific about "who" David Duke is and what white supremacy is, is like Trump admitting he is one of them. The tattoo is too close to his skin.
There isn't really a way now for the right wing in the US who have, with the help of the bossy, overbearing, tyrants of the Republican Party, to change their skins. All anyone needs to do is visit a right wing online site like Fix This Nation or Patriot Power and immediately you see how their mentally defective minds have create Right Wing Alt World.
This is their only dimension they can survive in. Trump and the Republican bullies who have, from the minute Obama took office, sought to prove WHITE POWER, by refusing as Mitch McConnell stated, "I am proud to have refused to cooperate with the Obama Administration" that they are unable to belong to the UNITED States of America.
The White Power Mad middle aged, mostly high school drop outs and anarchistic big mouths in Charlottesville pretended they came to defend a statue of Robert E. Lee from being torn down. Excuses for them acting out their inbred violent natures. Robert E. Lee must be rolling in his grave for the desecration of his name and his place in US history.
It's awfully peculiar how these Confederates don't try out their attacks in New York or any of the New England states. They know better.
There isn't really a way now for the right wing in the US who have, with the help of the bossy, overbearing, tyrants of the Republican Party, to change their skins. All anyone needs to do is visit a right wing online site like Fix This Nation or Patriot Power and immediately you see how their mentally defective minds have create Right Wing Alt World.
This is their only dimension they can survive in. Trump and the Republican bullies who have, from the minute Obama took office, sought to prove WHITE POWER, by refusing as Mitch McConnell stated, "I am proud to have refused to cooperate with the Obama Administration" that they are unable to belong to the UNITED States of America.
The White Power Mad middle aged, mostly high school drop outs and anarchistic big mouths in Charlottesville pretended they came to defend a statue of Robert E. Lee from being torn down. Excuses for them acting out their inbred violent natures. Robert E. Lee must be rolling in his grave for the desecration of his name and his place in US history.
It's awfully peculiar how these Confederates don't try out their attacks in New York or any of the New England states. They know better.
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Too little, too late. Mr. Trump knows that the white supremacists, neo-nazis and kkk helped elect him. He doesn't want to offend them.
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Trump ran his campaign on anger and violence. He did his best to whip-up the crowd to a violent frenzy. His talk about roughing up subdued arrested before trial. I believe that in his delusional paranoid mind, we are all minions under his command. The Constitution and Government process are just "speed bumps" on his Regal road. The key is force. Rudely take what is there to take. He is not an honorable man and he doesn't expect his help to be either; only loyal. The violent losers look up to him as a Rebel rousing rendition pal.
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The Antifa (who are fascists, whether they know it or not,) are now emboldened as they roam around the country throwing nooses over the statues of confederate soldiers and pulling them down, while frenzied mobs dance and cheer in celebration.
How is this any less reprehensible than ISIS destroying monuments in Aleppo or elsewhere, that were built by the ancient Romans, who were after all invaders of their lands?
How is this any less reprehensible than ISIS destroying monuments in Aleppo or elsewhere, that were built by the ancient Romans, who were after all invaders of their lands?
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Anti-Nazi protesters pulling down statues of avowed racists are "Invaders of our Land"? Tearing down statues of confederate heroes erected long after a Civil War was fought and won to abolish slavery and save our Union from the sedition of these southerners is in no way analogous to the actions of Isis terrorists in Aleppo. At least not for true American Patriots.
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Why should President Trump go to Charlottesville? There are important things to do in Washington. Stay there and do your job. Don't go to every little thing that happens in the country. These liberals are just looking for anything. But you know that and we are still supporting you.
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A woman murdered by a self proclaimed neo nazi is not an "every little thing" that just happens. Today #notmypresident is neither reaching out to the murdered woman's family or working in the WH. Instead he's playing golf and frolicking about in the gold plated hallways of Trump Tower.
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Trump's face at the beginning of the accompanying video says it all. It's the face of someone forced to take a dose of a vile medicine. That he had to be pushed to add to his earlier statement and that he was reluctant to do so, tells us what we need to know about his character.
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Melt down these hate and race bating statues. Turn them into new status showing unity amongst the races and also the fallen fighting for equality and against racial hate, such as the Heather who died fighting against hate.
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Too little too late! Flooding in New Orleans, Nazis in Virginia, waving nuclear threats against the world, and Trump golfs on. Trump is not a leader - he is the man with the stick - abusive and intolerant - who would have thought that the leader of N Korea would show more reason than the president of the US?
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Trump referenced carnage in America during his Inaugaration speech and is always quick to use the term 'radical Islam' to descibe the ISIS threat. We all witnessed carnage on Saturday in Charlottesville not by radical Islam but by domestic terrorists. Border walls and Muslim bans will do nothing to eradicate the greater threat of domestic terroism. Yet Trump refuses to recognize that threat either out of loyaty to his supporters or just plain cowardice.
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If white supremists are going to have a gathering just don't go to protest it. That is what they want. White supremists are not a big problem for this country. They are a just a nothing fringe group. Let them have there little gatherings and they will go home.
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Exactly.
Protest is great when you stand a chance of accomplishing your end goal. Protesting vile behavior will accomplish nothing.
Protest is great when you stand a chance of accomplishing your end goal. Protesting vile behavior will accomplish nothing.
Ignoring them used to work. But it doesn't anymore. The sad and terrifying element in this clash of values is the national trend of unlimited, uncontrolled open-carry of firearms, including rifles. Those white supremacists wanting to "start a race war" are more likely to start an armed conflict among white people. (The "Antifa" movement appears to be nearly as white as the supremacists).
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The issue is whether Trump has changed in his heart about the importance of an inclusive society. The closest people we have in the United States to Native Americans are just that--Native Americans as in the various Indians in the lower 48, original inhabitants of Alaska and original inhabitants of Hawaii. All were subject to discrimination by latecomers with white skins. We progressed and have continued to do so as we realized that we are united by a set of ideals, not the national origin of our parents or the color of our skin or even our religion. If we can really talk to each other across those barriers, we'll discover we have many of the same problems but different perspectives on how to solve them. Taken together those ideas might just move our nation forward--the true path to Making American Great.
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So a group of nationalists engaged in a lawful march, and the calls for President Trump to strengthen the condemnation of the marchers were heard far and wide. A group of protesters unlawfully pulled down a confederate statue in Durham, and I have not heard any voices of condemnation, nor have I heard calls for President Trump to denounce.
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There's a little difference.
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I am center left and believe the Trump presidency is a disgrace for our nation.
But I immediately thought pulling that statue down was wrong. I hope the people who did it will be punished. The people of Charlottesville, through their City Council, decided to remove the Lee statue. That's absolutely how it should be done.
And correctness aside, this act only feeds directly into the narrative of the American Nazi and white supremacist movements. It's stupidity on a grand scale.
But I immediately thought pulling that statue down was wrong. I hope the people who did it will be punished. The people of Charlottesville, through their City Council, decided to remove the Lee statue. That's absolutely how it should be done.
And correctness aside, this act only feeds directly into the narrative of the American Nazi and white supremacist movements. It's stupidity on a grand scale.
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Paul: Would you care to elaborate? Thanks.
Donald Trump will indeed make history, as infamous as it will be. Its a lesson to all those who think that a wanna be captain of industry, bereft of any moral character, self reflection, curiosity about the world, or even compassion for his fellow human bean, lack of respect for the rule of law, or his lack of respect for our many differences. His lacking ability to care for others beyond his own self-interest, could be president of the United States of America. A country once respected for its ideals of fairness. The champion of human rights. Its unique form of democracy in the belief that all humankind is created equally with certain unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Its acceptance of all people, and willingness to take in the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. That is what makes America Great.
Its is a lesson for all of us when we don't vote, or vote for a people who appeal to our lesser selves. Cmon, America, we are better than this. Shame on us that we allowed this to happen. And shame on the GOP lead Congress for abandoning their duty to check this president.
Its is a lesson for all of us when we don't vote, or vote for a people who appeal to our lesser selves. Cmon, America, we are better than this. Shame on us that we allowed this to happen. And shame on the GOP lead Congress for abandoning their duty to check this president.
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Interesting that when Obama delayed comment, or faintly mentioned, on an event, he was praised for his 'measured' response. Also, I wonder how the August 21 eclipse will be turned into a rant against Trump.
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You do know a 2nd Response (in the aftermath of a previous Failed One) isn't deemed measured?
It's deemed Damage Control at best and Desperate at worst.
With that info in pocket, you can Now inject Obama Correctly to try to change the conversation.
It's deemed Damage Control at best and Desperate at worst.
With that info in pocket, you can Now inject Obama Correctly to try to change the conversation.
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Did you see the statement? Does it really strike you as someone who considered deeply their response and spoke from the heart? Looked to me like someone forced to read something someone else wrote.
When, after days of pressure, he finally 'disavowed' David Duke's support during the campaign, he did it in the most petulant and insincere way possible. "I disavow, OK? I disavow." like a 5-year-old admitting forced to admit he took the cookie from the cookie jar.
The only conclusion a thinking person can come to is that he really has no problem with these 'nationalists' (aka Amerinazis). Wake up and smell the hatred.
When, after days of pressure, he finally 'disavowed' David Duke's support during the campaign, he did it in the most petulant and insincere way possible. "I disavow, OK? I disavow." like a 5-year-old admitting forced to admit he took the cookie from the cookie jar.
The only conclusion a thinking person can come to is that he really has no problem with these 'nationalists' (aka Amerinazis). Wake up and smell the hatred.
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Moral standing? Trump has none. As he's demonstrated repeatedly, both in his campaign and in office, he values money and power, at the expense of people, ideals and our democracy.
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Is there any physical corroborated proof that this was anything but public theatre?
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Thank you Mr Frazier for your courage and integrity
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Trump was wrong, once again. It's clear what we have here and it's noted in the media time after time.
But what about the left's violent activists? Why are they never named as such in the media? They have initiated violence in Berkley and were part of the violence here too. They broke laws by destroying the confederate statue. Whether you agree with the statute or not it's not right to take the matter in your own hands.
The left is clearly getting a pass here. And it can be argued they are more violent then the KKK and white extremists from the right.
But what about the left's violent activists? Why are they never named as such in the media? They have initiated violence in Berkley and were part of the violence here too. They broke laws by destroying the confederate statue. Whether you agree with the statute or not it's not right to take the matter in your own hands.
The left is clearly getting a pass here. And it can be argued they are more violent then the KKK and white extremists from the right.
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You are mistaken in your false equivalence. Various statistics have been advanced recently showing the number of people killed by domestic terror organizations or lone wolves inspired by them (such as Dylan Roof in Charleston). "The left" has not inspired or conspired in comparable violence.
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I find this type of comment completely delusional. thanks fox news.
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The NY Times could use its considerable influence to to help calm the situation, but instead fans the flames by publishing articles with more opinion than fact. Instead if focusing on what Trump did or didn't say, focus on the event itself. Or do your readers need to be told what to think?
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The (lack of) response of the President of the United States is important.
Read what the white supremacists are saying. They are saying outright that his non-response Saturday encourages them to continue, and indeed increase, their efforts to destabilize and destroy America. That's important.
Read what the white supremacists are saying. They are saying outright that his non-response Saturday encourages them to continue, and indeed increase, their efforts to destabilize and destroy America. That's important.
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For Dan of Philadelphia - So now we're all to be held responsible for how what we don't say is interpreted by others. Bad precedent to set.
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In the wake of the anti-Semitic rants of the white supremacists on Friday President Trump on Saturday morning was silent.
"Qui tacet consentire": the maxim of the law is "Silence gives consent". If therefore you wish to construe what my silence betokened, you must construe that I consented, not that I denied. (Sir Thomas More - A Man For All Seasons)
"Qui tacet consentire": the maxim of the law is "Silence gives consent". If therefore you wish to construe what my silence betokened, you must construe that I consented, not that I denied. (Sir Thomas More - A Man For All Seasons)
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It may be the one and only patriotic thing trump ever does, but it will certainly benefit the country. He should resign.
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“As I have said many times before, no matter the color of our skin, we all live under the same laws,” - Donald Trump
Hogwash! "Many times before"? When and where Donald? Let's have a list with dates and times. I think it will be a short one.
Hogwash! "Many times before"? When and where Donald? Let's have a list with dates and times. I think it will be a short one.
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I don't know why everyone is picking on our president.
Don't they know how hard it is to find one's moral imperative when you have no morals?
Don't they know how hard it is to find one's moral imperative when you have no morals?
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Our esteemed President cannot take a passive or dispassionate position on Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists. He has yet to learn words and tone in the office of the Presidency hold power and sway both for and in this case against its current occupant.
Outside of his base, he has failed to galvanize the American people to believe he is the right leadership for our democratic republic and has left himself vulnerable to accusations of racism, corruption and incompetence.
The clock is ticking Mr.Trump, your political position is precarious and in decline. Those that fail to heed the warnings of the canary in the coal mine are subject to the grim reality that it forecasts.
Outside of his base, he has failed to galvanize the American people to believe he is the right leadership for our democratic republic and has left himself vulnerable to accusations of racism, corruption and incompetence.
The clock is ticking Mr.Trump, your political position is precarious and in decline. Those that fail to heed the warnings of the canary in the coal mine are subject to the grim reality that it forecasts.
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He is not even leading his supporters. Rather, he is following their lead.
This President has no moral standing. That has been crystal clear since long before the election. Just remember how he incited his base to violence in campaign appearances. That none of the resulting melees ended in the death of journalists or audience members is just a happy accident.
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"...allies worried.... that his measured remarks came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."
Trump has never had any moral standing in the first place. He started his so called presidency on Day 1 just as he has lived his entire life - as a revengeful, self aggrandizing narcissist with no moral compass whatsoever. The blood spilled in Charlottesville is on his hands. He must be removed from the presidency before the damage done to America and the world is beyond repair.
Trump has never had any moral standing in the first place. He started his so called presidency on Day 1 just as he has lived his entire life - as a revengeful, self aggrandizing narcissist with no moral compass whatsoever. The blood spilled in Charlottesville is on his hands. He must be removed from the presidency before the damage done to America and the world is beyond repair.
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I am sick and tired of the "gotcha" mentality of the news media andthr Democrats. No mattet what our President does or says, it is never, and I mean NEVER, the right thing. It is certain that the American people are seeimg this and will put the Democrats in their place of irrelevancy in the elevtions of 2018 and 2020. Americans do not like bullying one bit.
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If anybody warrants the gotcha mentality it's President Donald J. Trump. I almost agree with you, I would say that he "rarely" says the right thing and that's not the fault of the news media.
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That's because it should be reflexive to denounce Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups on the fringe right for a politician, especially after an act of mass violence perpetrated by them in an American city, and Trump failed to do it. He finally came around to doing it -- 2 days later -- showing the kind of enthusiasm you see when you bring your dog to a vet.
Americans are seeing Trump for what he is, they don't like his bullying, and that 2018 and 2020 are going to be wave elections.
Americans are seeing Trump for what he is, they don't like his bullying, and that 2018 and 2020 are going to be wave elections.
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@georgeyo
"Americans do not like bullying one bit."
Tell that to your president.
NOT my president
"Americans do not like bullying one bit."
Tell that to your president.
NOT my president
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On Saturday Trump read, on a kindergartner's level, the most insincere piece of rubbish to come out of his mouth since, well, the day before. Repeating that the responsibility for radical White extremism, though Trump did not call it that, he's too dignified to stoop to name-calling, Trump laid not the blame for this act of Domestic Terrorism with American Nazi sympathizers, but "with many sides, many sides, people".
That must mean the "other side" includes people who hate Nazi? Yeah, those anti-Nazi sure are a problem of late, bleeding heart liberals and Jewish sympathizers, defending the rights of non-Whites, talking trash about all of us being created equal. What garbage those anti-Nazi spew. Glad to see the brilliant commander-in-chief saw right through that liberal veil of tears.
But then, on Monday, Trump, usually not one to listen to fake news, found it somewhere in his cold, calculating heart to mention the Nazi and the KKK by name. What a profile in courage, what chutzpah. Trump, always the diplomat, has finally come out of his shell. The question is does anyone believe Trump? If so, I got this piece of real estate...
DD
Manhattan
That must mean the "other side" includes people who hate Nazi? Yeah, those anti-Nazi sure are a problem of late, bleeding heart liberals and Jewish sympathizers, defending the rights of non-Whites, talking trash about all of us being created equal. What garbage those anti-Nazi spew. Glad to see the brilliant commander-in-chief saw right through that liberal veil of tears.
But then, on Monday, Trump, usually not one to listen to fake news, found it somewhere in his cold, calculating heart to mention the Nazi and the KKK by name. What a profile in courage, what chutzpah. Trump, always the diplomat, has finally come out of his shell. The question is does anyone believe Trump? If so, I got this piece of real estate...
DD
Manhattan
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Dear America: you are a bunch of idiots.
No, I don't mean this, I love this country and, most of the time, I meet people I can respect and sometimes admire, even when I have deep and apparently complete differences with them. Still...
Politicians, chief among them a guy called Trump, have discovered something important. American voters will believe anything if it fits into the pattern of their established beliefs and prejudices. So the deal is just say anything, put it out there and millions of people will cheer no matter what. I am sure there was quiet cheering across many segments of the land when Trump on Saturday refused to condemn the racially inspired assault on Charlottesville, even before we knew that one person had been killed and 19 seriously wounded.
Make no mistake.
The entire events there were caused by what were once called trouble makers, people who have hate in their hearts, guns at their sides, clubs at the ready, plastic shields and hardened body protection across their chests and limbs. None of this would have happened if the white supremacists hadn't shown up in a quiet, peaceful and rather lovely college town to cause trouble.
Sorting through fact and fiction is just too much trouble for most people. We believe what we want, see only those events through a prism that makes us feel better about ourselves and our views and, by this process, make ourselves into idiots to be used by politicians, many times against our own self interest.
No, I don't mean this, I love this country and, most of the time, I meet people I can respect and sometimes admire, even when I have deep and apparently complete differences with them. Still...
Politicians, chief among them a guy called Trump, have discovered something important. American voters will believe anything if it fits into the pattern of their established beliefs and prejudices. So the deal is just say anything, put it out there and millions of people will cheer no matter what. I am sure there was quiet cheering across many segments of the land when Trump on Saturday refused to condemn the racially inspired assault on Charlottesville, even before we knew that one person had been killed and 19 seriously wounded.
Make no mistake.
The entire events there were caused by what were once called trouble makers, people who have hate in their hearts, guns at their sides, clubs at the ready, plastic shields and hardened body protection across their chests and limbs. None of this would have happened if the white supremacists hadn't shown up in a quiet, peaceful and rather lovely college town to cause trouble.
Sorting through fact and fiction is just too much trouble for most people. We believe what we want, see only those events through a prism that makes us feel better about ourselves and our views and, by this process, make ourselves into idiots to be used by politicians, many times against our own self interest.
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There should be a public outcry to stop this egregious, disrespectful assault on American History. Tearing down historical statues at this point because certain groups acting out under the race card excuse are now offended by them is insane. Groups of discontented Americans with selfish interests are using old grievances to revive the past after more than 150 years to rage war on the South once again...and we're letting the madness continue. Proof positive that if "we refuse to remember the past, we're condemned to repeat it."
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The statue of Lee in Charlottesville was erected in the 1920s.
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The fake president's fake moral indignation is surpassed in depravity and deplorability only by the towering cowardice of the republicans in congress to rebuke and reject this tiny-brained tyrant. He is an international embarrassment. Remove him from office. The 25th Amendment would work nicely toward that end. Just do it.
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How is it that these soldiers of race war are allowed to come to a public rally bearing assault rifles and clubs? Clearly they are anticipating a violent melee protecting themselves with shields and helmets? Has America taken leave of its senses privileging free speech over the threat to human life? Does any mayor or police chief believe men armed as if for combat in Afghanistan don't pose a danger on public streets? Open carry means a mob mayb come to town armed to the teeth and the lawmen in town will pretend they don't see see the imminent danger represented? America needs to regain basic common sense to know what should be permissible and what must be forbidden. You do not allow armed men to participate in a contentious public rally. There has to be some limit to how people can assemble. Armed assembly is a BAD IDEA!
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What courage on the gridiron, what chutzpah, it took for the worse president ever to decry Nazi. Has he also come out yet in favor of Mom and apple pie? I haven't checked his latest tweet storms.
Well, I just might have been wrong about the idiot-in-chief. All this time I thought Trump nothing but a con artist extraordinaire, a dimwit who would do or say anything to win over the highly prized White Supremacist voting bloc, a segment of our society, who in Trump's, Bannon's, Miller's, Gorka's inimitable estimation have been sorely overlooked. You go get 'em, Trump. I think you have a lock on the Hate Vote. Are these sick clowns aware that you have a daughter who converted to Judaism? And a son-in-law who is brokering an Israeli-Arab peace deal? I won't tell if you won't, though I'm sure once that cat in out of the bag Grand Wizard David Duke is not going to be very pleased. Oh my Lord, Donnie, what to do, what to do? Courage.
DD
Manhattan
Well, I just might have been wrong about the idiot-in-chief. All this time I thought Trump nothing but a con artist extraordinaire, a dimwit who would do or say anything to win over the highly prized White Supremacist voting bloc, a segment of our society, who in Trump's, Bannon's, Miller's, Gorka's inimitable estimation have been sorely overlooked. You go get 'em, Trump. I think you have a lock on the Hate Vote. Are these sick clowns aware that you have a daughter who converted to Judaism? And a son-in-law who is brokering an Israeli-Arab peace deal? I won't tell if you won't, though I'm sure once that cat in out of the bag Grand Wizard David Duke is not going to be very pleased. Oh my Lord, Donnie, what to do, what to do? Courage.
DD
Manhattan
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I understand - there is another march for hatred planned at Texas A and M. My first thought was that peaceful demonstrators should descend en masse to this rally (there are so many more of us) - my second thought was: I don't own a flack jacket. North Korea and Charlottesville are no different - crazy people with hateful ideas armed to the hilt for purposes of destruction. In my dreams - Obama would go to this rally and lead a peaceful protest....President Obama...can you help us?
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Don't worry, racist people. He's already retweeting fellow racists to show you he's definitely still one of you.
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I don't understand why Trump is so reluctant to denounce these white supremacists. He denounced John Mccain as a loser for being captured in the war. Didn't the South lose the war? So aren't all these people just a bunch of losers? I thought Trump didn't like losers?
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He has little moral standing amongst decent Americans. That was gone when he encouraged his 'rally goers' to beat up desenters.
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What "moral standing" is the NYT talking about? Trump has none. When will the MSM stop pandering to this thuggish, narcissistic ignorant man?
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The first response is a great revealer of the truth. Trump's delayed response followed by rambling and then a coached "better-get-going-to-say-the-right-thing" is what it is: a patch, a cover-up job to divert the telling truth of his real beliefs. Don't be fooled.
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The most disingenuous speech yet that Trump has given. He sure as heck did not write it--this speech had multi syllable words and diction that were far above Trump who speaks like a 12 year old--C grade average student at the best of times. Trump stated the KKK, Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, but he also said "and the other groups." Was he inferring that the left groups should be included as well? He really is an abomination--please Donald Trump do us all a favor and resign--immediately!!
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Too little, too late. We know where #45 stands.
We also know where some 30% of Americans stand--what a horrifying thought.
And we know where the GOP stands--talk is cheap, show me action.
We also know where some 30% of Americans stand--what a horrifying thought.
And we know where the GOP stands--talk is cheap, show me action.
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Inept as a President and probably as a Dad. Junior crashed the car and for punishment the kid is now shopping for a new car. Neo Nazis are said to be emboldened by Trump reaction. Kelly will need to tighten the leash because Trump has met the Peter Principle head on..........
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FOX is pushing the nonsense about the two Muslims who shot up the Xmas Party in California, showing that lefties are as corrupt as David Duke. The big premise for them is why aren't Trumps haters in the media, not covering N.Korea, instead of this 'small' incident in Virginia? Yo, Gutfield, this is your president and puppetmaster bannon pushing their hate and ignorance as a American discourse!
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What these two days gave me was the opportunity to see just how much the alt-right/fascist movement regards Trump as one of their own, and to expose the ideological ties that extend from the Daily Stormer right into the White House and Bannon. Watching marchers shout "Heil Trump" with their right arms raised in a Nazi salute is a short, sharp wake-up call for anyone who has become complacent about this administration and our current President.
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For the first time in my life, I am ASHAMED to be an American. I am furious that Trump and Co have allowed this nation and its wonderful citizens to be viewed internationally as a bunch of low-life.......ignorant racists, xenophobes and pure rubes. Neo-nazis, hate mongers, murderers....and the man acting as POTUS says nothing? Trump....you must GO...and the sooner, the better.
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One terror group shouts 'Allahu Akbar'. And kills innocents.
The other terror group shouts 'Sieg Heil'. And kills innocents.
But to the President of the United States of America, only one of these terrorist organizations is unacceptable, deserving of criticism and worth banishment.
God help you America - you shall need all the help you can get with such an abhorrent man in the highest office.
The other terror group shouts 'Sieg Heil'. And kills innocents.
But to the President of the United States of America, only one of these terrorist organizations is unacceptable, deserving of criticism and worth banishment.
God help you America - you shall need all the help you can get with such an abhorrent man in the highest office.
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Nothing Trump says means anything and it's been painfully apparent since long before 2016 that human life has no meaning for the man. People are mere tools to serve him. Those who serve him are his friends; those who do not are useless trash. Those who act against him are his enemies.
And thus we have a so-called "president" who counts Vlad Putin as his friend and far-right extremists as his valuable tools.
Heather Heyer? Not even worthy of mention.
And thus we have a so-called "president" who counts Vlad Putin as his friend and far-right extremists as his valuable tools.
Heather Heyer? Not even worthy of mention.
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Most of us plainly saw who Trump was throughout the campaign, Republicans closed their collective eyes and thought he may be the village idiot but he is our idiot. Don't every let them forget this they own him and all his actions! Can't see how this disaster of president ends well for any of us.
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Why should his tepid remarks, including his tepid condemnation with a healthy dose of braggadocio, come as any surprise? This cretin heated up the birther battle cry, and barely retracted his many outrageous statements as a candidate. This cretin called for the death penalty for young adults- Black and Latino young adults-- I might add -- in the Central Park Five debacle. This cretin doesn't read. Doesn't study. Doesn't care.......except........about himself.
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Trump can only earnestly confront individuals who challenge him pesrsonally. He has no skill nor will to confront political movement that challenges US laws.
We have a president that lacks the moral authority to call out Nazis, the KKK AND White Nationalists.
Well, folks, maybe I'm late to the party, but now we know with 100% surety that even though "he who must not be named" has a bigly mouth, he is really a coward. He showed this to all of us on live national TV on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, when he had the look of a bully who has been exposed on the school playground.
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The headline notes: "...his measured remarks came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."
Did Trump ever have moral standing? Donald Trump has no moral convictions, no fundamental beliefs, from which he will not sway. Anything he does or says is flexible...everything is on the table, even he says 'let's write it in stone'. Trump puts his finger to the wind on every issue. He makes an initial statement, gauges public interest to that statement, and changes his tune based on the direction the winds are blowing.
Donald Trump has no moral standing.
Did Trump ever have moral standing? Donald Trump has no moral convictions, no fundamental beliefs, from which he will not sway. Anything he does or says is flexible...everything is on the table, even he says 'let's write it in stone'. Trump puts his finger to the wind on every issue. He makes an initial statement, gauges public interest to that statement, and changes his tune based on the direction the winds are blowing.
Donald Trump has no moral standing.
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I, too, had to read that sentence twice to make sure I had it right, given it's implication that he previously had moral standing.
Trump is not going to Charlottesville. Why am I not surprised ? Why would he choose to exemplify leadership, determination, empathy and strength, when he can sit around in that 'dump' in DC? Trump is not worth hating, paying attention to or acknowledging. Other than finding a way to disguard him, he has less than zero value.
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Would David Duke get any press if he did not praise Donald Trump? Would the rest of the country even know about the Nazi scum rally if the press and counter demonstrators did not show up for their hate show? They are a small bunch of loser haters who seek the attention that media is giving them. The publicity they get enable to attract more losers. If you are a loser hater nobody just commit a heinous act and the whole world will know your name. Stop the presses!!!
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I am disgusted by the NYT´s use here of the term "traditional president" to imply that Trump is somehow flounting tradition, which in US terms can be seen as a positive. No he is not "non-traditional". He is a conman and likely a traitor with his money and interests owned by the Russians. He is from a long line of white supremacists and racists - that is the Trump tradition. Do you call burglars and robbers "non-traditional" - They are not. They are a clear part of an illegal point of view and culture which destroys. That is Trump tradition - you need evidence just look to 40 years of a poorly managed disastrous business career. He keeps the balls in the air only by soliciting and seeking out new groups to con, in this case he is in bed with David Duke, Richard Spencer and white nationalists. I think Heather Heyer´s friends, family and colleagues should add a lawsuit to Trump´s thousands suing him for causing this horrible tragedy.
An thanks execs for speaking up. The toads who voted for him think he is good at business - you all know better and I am sure that is partly why you serve on his committees - as part of your responsibility to forestall economic disaster in USA.
An thanks execs for speaking up. The toads who voted for him think he is good at business - you all know better and I am sure that is partly why you serve on his committees - as part of your responsibility to forestall economic disaster in USA.
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Again a lot made out of nothing as some demand to hate the president and demonstrate. The police could not handle the crowds. Angry Americans as over 400 are killed in Chicago with ghetto crime. Progressives are hateful as is blm and white supremacist groups. But the left has started continuous violence. The media is hateful as the president condemned the white supremacists and the left continues to look for any excuse.
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Total false equivalence...probably from Faux News.
This was a willful act to maim and kill as many people as possible...compare it to the Nazis who did the same on a much larger scale.
Btw, Isis first suggested using motorized vehicles as weapons, so comparisons to terrorists groups are also relevant.
Let's call your comparison for what it is a veiled attempt to try to convince people that inner city black people do this every day so it is OK if this happens but white supremacists are to blame.
Try this on...in a paragraph or less please try to rationalize the existence of slavery.
This was a willful act to maim and kill as many people as possible...compare it to the Nazis who did the same on a much larger scale.
Btw, Isis first suggested using motorized vehicles as weapons, so comparisons to terrorists groups are also relevant.
Let's call your comparison for what it is a veiled attempt to try to convince people that inner city black people do this every day so it is OK if this happens but white supremacists are to blame.
Try this on...in a paragraph or less please try to rationalize the existence of slavery.
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Perhaps this is what POTUS meant by Locker room talk?
His 2nd (read) Speech clearly resembles an Athlete (forced) to read a Statement of Apology, after messing up.
For an example find the one of (now reformed?) Ryan Leaf at his locker (after verbally disrespecting a reporter) in Sep 98.
His 2nd (read) Speech clearly resembles an Athlete (forced) to read a Statement of Apology, after messing up.
For an example find the one of (now reformed?) Ryan Leaf at his locker (after verbally disrespecting a reporter) in Sep 98.
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First, there should be no tolerance for anyone that breaks laws and destroys another rights. What happened in Charlottesville was horrible. There is no room in society for racists, supremacists and plane old thugs. From what I saw in reports, there were lots of thugs with both points of view. None of this should have ben tolerated. President Trump has never in my mind had any love for either group. I see another incident where Democrats are attempting to stamp President Trump with this mess. I also see this as another play by the NYT's and the media to make this Trumps fault. This is a disgrace. Why didn't the NYT's and the media make that same charge against President Obama with Baltimore, Ferguson and the rest of unrest? Let's cut it out!
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"plain", not plane. you're welcome.
In fairness Trump created this situation singlehandedly.
In fairness Trump created this situation singlehandedly.
Usually, Trump enjoys lying, but his condemnation of the Charlottesville racists was the first time I have ever seen him hate it.
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WHO is going to save us from this bigoted vulgarian? WHO?
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He is NOT "bowing to pressure."
Trump remains arrogant and ignorant, a perfect cipher of hatred.
Trump remains arrogant and ignorant, a perfect cipher of hatred.
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Sadly, it is not just Trump. The GOP has been race-baiting for decades; favors government-action to prevent "reverse discrimination" over race, ethnic, gender, etc., discrimination; dilutes the voice of minorities in politics by its widespread use of gerrymandering; and does little to nothing to prevent sex and sexual orientation discrimination. In short, the GOP pays lip service to the American ideal that "All men are created equal" as the party as a whole simultaneously acts to undermine that very ideal.
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It finally occurred to me that all of the comments about Mr. Trump not wanting to antagonize or disappoint his "base" is a description of the tail wagging the dog. If he were a leader in any sense of the word, his supporters should be listening to HIM, not the other way around. Imagine if he cautioned the "alt right" demonstrators *before* the march to be peaceful and respectful. Imagine if, in his belated speech, he had said let's have no more of this. He only seeks to stir his supporters to adore HIM, and he does it by catering to their fears and prejudices. Whatever charisma he has/had is wasted on his need for praise.
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"Yet even Mr. Trump’s allies worried that his measured remarks came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president." As if he had any moral standing to damage.
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Trump had nothing to do with what happened in Charlottesville. It had far more to do with whoever ordered the police to stand down -- McAuliffe, mayor of Charlottesville? -- and just watch from a distance as the rally turned violent. Mobs were attacking each other in the street and I didn't see a police officer in sight. Nor did I see any police on the footage of when the car rammed the crowd. Why weren't the streets blocked off to vehicle traffic? Why didn't the police keep the two groups separate from each other?
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Exactly. It's a local issue, and should be dealt with locally. Peaceful protests are constitutionally permitted, but not the hysterical idiots you always see on the news. A flamethrower might change their tune.
As a woman, I often wonder what being married to a man like Trump was like and is like. The man seems to lack a soul. If he's like this in public, what might he be like in private? No amount of money would make me stay married to him.
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Trump's true colors are an indelible stain on the Republican Party - it will not disappear nor be forgotten. The GOP can wear it like a hair shirt in shame so they are forever reminded of their culpability in deploying this unmitigated disaster of Trump, the antithesis of everything Americans are and strive to be, on our country and the world.
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Do we need the president to make a statement? Do we not know in our deepest heart that the whole scene was deplorable? Why is his reaction so crucial that we spend this kind of time and energy dissecting the remarks of our current figurehead? It was bad. Racists are bad. Physical confrontation with racists is a bad idea. The POTUS cannot fix what is wrong or what happened with a statement. I will be the change I want to see in America. I would rather read an article on how to best accomplish change in my community then read another article about how much or what the President is doing wrong.
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It seems that facts just will not get in the way of a good Trump bashing. There were many groups armed to the teeth, both liberal and white supremacist, bussed in to Charlottesville to do battle.
There were several sides.
While the white supremacist cause is evil, the hate and violence demonstrated by the liberal "anti-white supremacists" and their liberal counterparts was just as evil. There were news reports on the scene, in the early part of Saturday's debacle, that reported the violence started from the liberal front. The image of the black, liberal counter protester with the aerosol flame-thrower attacking the neo-nazi with a Confederate flag comes to mind.
The violence on both sides should have been addressed on Saturday, and it was. Quite strongly. Trump spoke to the issue in much stronger terms than the (much later) weak and unsure statements we heard from Obama when incidences of civil unrest occurred during his administration.
But, that doesn't stop the "fake news" machine from churning out its false narrative.
There were several sides.
While the white supremacist cause is evil, the hate and violence demonstrated by the liberal "anti-white supremacists" and their liberal counterparts was just as evil. There were news reports on the scene, in the early part of Saturday's debacle, that reported the violence started from the liberal front. The image of the black, liberal counter protester with the aerosol flame-thrower attacking the neo-nazi with a Confederate flag comes to mind.
The violence on both sides should have been addressed on Saturday, and it was. Quite strongly. Trump spoke to the issue in much stronger terms than the (much later) weak and unsure statements we heard from Obama when incidences of civil unrest occurred during his administration.
But, that doesn't stop the "fake news" machine from churning out its false narrative.
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Read the statement from the President of UVA how the Alt-right's illegal Nazi style march on the UVA grounds on Friday night was designed to intimidate by-standers and innocent people. This has not gotten enough press to set the base for Saturday.
The Alt-right Nazis commented illegal acts. It is not fake news. So many refuse the to hear the truth as they have since the South lost the Civil war and the slaves were freed. And like all Trumpettes, you blame Obama - cite fake news - and forget Trump's 5-years of saying Obama wasn't a US citizen or in the 1960s claimed blacks were incited to violence by agitators because they loved segregation. Fake news - you are the source.
The Alt-right Nazis commented illegal acts. It is not fake news. So many refuse the to hear the truth as they have since the South lost the Civil war and the slaves were freed. And like all Trumpettes, you blame Obama - cite fake news - and forget Trump's 5-years of saying Obama wasn't a US citizen or in the 1960s claimed blacks were incited to violence by agitators because they loved segregation. Fake news - you are the source.
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Trump was a lackluster student but boy oh boy he can read from a teleprompter with the best of them.
Anyone who thinks he is being presidential when reading prepared statements written by others - he has no investment in the words because he has had no hand in creating them - is fooling themselves, or grasping at straws.
How much lower the bar will go will be the thing to watch for as we had into the 2018 election cycle. That, and how much longer Republicans in Congress will continue to support their captain as he scuttles their ship.
Anyone who thinks he is being presidential when reading prepared statements written by others - he has no investment in the words because he has had no hand in creating them - is fooling themselves, or grasping at straws.
How much lower the bar will go will be the thing to watch for as we had into the 2018 election cycle. That, and how much longer Republicans in Congress will continue to support their captain as he scuttles their ship.
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How about some proactive pronouncements about the upcoming Alt Right demonstrations? I have read that 9 more such rallies have been approved for next weekend. Put the nation on notice, especially the Alt Right folks that violence will not be tolerated.
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There have been a total of three corporate CEOs who have resigned from Trump's White House Corporate Council to protest his weak-kneed response to the Nazis: Kevin Plank of Under Armour; Brian Krzanich of Intel; and Kenneth C. Frazier of Merck.
Two others resigned earlier over the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords -- Disney's Bob Iger, and Tesla's Elon Musk.
I wonder what significance there might be to the fact that Trump has publicly attacked only Frazier...... the only black man of the five.
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There have been a total of three corporate CEOs who have resigned from Trump's White House Corporate Council to protest his weak-kneed response to the Nazis: Kevin Plank of Under Armour; Brian Krzanich of Intel; and Kenneth C. Frazier of Merck.
Two others resigned earlier over the withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accords -- Disney's Bob Iger, and Tesla's Elon Musk.
I wonder what significance there might be to the fact that Trump has publicly attacked only Frazier...... the only black man of the five.
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How will Trump feel when his own daughter is attacked by his "fans" in the radical far Right? These White Nationalists and KKK member are openly anti Semitic and they do not tolerate whites who in their view are "traitors to their race"....so what will Trump do when that time comes?.... which I expect it will if these domestic terrorist groups are not controlled asap. Hate speech is not free speech. Heavily armed rogue males congregating in our streets is not OK, and let's not forget that children are watching this....this is large scale child abuse that we will pay for in one way or another.
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You call that a rebuke?! Wise up and get real.
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Our cowardly leader has difficulty hiding his true feelings. We want him to be different; he just can't. All the adults around him still can't control or influence him. Such a small man, getting smaller by the day.
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I'm glad he doesn't hide his true feelings. It's about time we have someone who says what they think. And that's one of the reasons he was elected.
This has to be seen as a defining moment for Trump, one in which he has shown himself to be the same sort of coward and moral dwarf as those he is loathe to condemn for their racism.
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The Great American Joke:
"His moral standing as president."
"His moral standing as president."
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Give me a break. Trump spoke out only after his silence became untenable to other Republicans.
A self-proclaimed Nazi killed an innocent demonstrator, and seriously injured many others. At the same time, a bunch of Nazis and Klan members were rioting in Cville. None of this provoked so much as a tweet from our POtuS.
The truth is that the President is a Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist, and he's populated his White House staff with more of the same. All of us better work to strengthen the nation's democratic institutions; they're all that's keeping us safe from Trump.
A self-proclaimed Nazi killed an innocent demonstrator, and seriously injured many others. At the same time, a bunch of Nazis and Klan members were rioting in Cville. None of this provoked so much as a tweet from our POtuS.
The truth is that the President is a Nazi sympathizer and white supremacist, and he's populated his White House staff with more of the same. All of us better work to strengthen the nation's democratic institutions; they're all that's keeping us safe from Trump.
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First, the NYT and other media should stop calling these people, "Alt-Righters" they are at best, Neo-Nazis/Neo-Fascists, or white extremists. Even labeling them as "anti-Semites" minimizes the fact that these people actually want to kill Jewish people. Utterly revolting. This is dangerous hate speech that cannot go unanswered. Hitler was not an anti-Semite, nor an "Alt-Righter" he was a Nazi who wanted to exterminate all Jews; therefore, call these dangerous Neo Nazis for what they are, not what they want the media to call them.
My great uncle died fighting under Patton's command, liberating Nazi death camps, not "Holocaust Centers." Soon these Neo Nazis/Neo-Fascists are going to get tired of rallies they are going to start committing acts of terrorism. Trump should quit worrying about North Korea and focus on the nearest threat to our safety and create a task force to disrupt these groups when called for, and prosecute those who commit hate crimes.
My great uncle died fighting under Patton's command, liberating Nazi death camps, not "Holocaust Centers." Soon these Neo Nazis/Neo-Fascists are going to get tired of rallies they are going to start committing acts of terrorism. Trump should quit worrying about North Korea and focus on the nearest threat to our safety and create a task force to disrupt these groups when called for, and prosecute those who commit hate crimes.
Too late, Trump showed his true colors already. He has got to go.
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"the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."
Since when did he have any?
When will Republicans have enough of a "leader" like this? That they tolerated him at all is shameful. That they leave him in office with outrage after outrage is cowardly and venal.
Since when did he have any?
When will Republicans have enough of a "leader" like this? That they tolerated him at all is shameful. That they leave him in office with outrage after outrage is cowardly and venal.
...but TWITUS doesn't seem to understand that pardon/talk of pardon of Joe Arpaio is explicit support of illegal actions based on racism, bigotry, and white supremacy.
When you step out of a closet, it's very difficult to go back.
Is there a worse combination than Nazis and widely-available guns? Although the counter-protests have been robust, I can honestly say if I lived in an open-carry state I would not attend secondary to fear of death or injury. POTUS owns the Nazi-sympathizers and Nazis (I'm not going to call them white nationalists, let's call them what they are) that he emboldened, inspired and employed. He's not going to disavow them without considerable pressure or the real threat of public humiliation. It's very clear that he didn't want to give this speech, and only did so after whatever forces of moderation exist in the WH were able to convince him that it would impact his bottom line. It says something that his ridiculous inflammatory remarks on North Korea were not the most foolish thing he did this week. Condemning Nazis is easy, and as Sally Yates said, takes fewer than 140 characters. He could have done it in a heartbeat, and chose not to..he's very clearly succeeded in 1) Making American Small Again and 2) making his mark as the worst POTUS in history.
How does a guy manage to govern in the environment that does now, and prospectively will, surround Trump? Even if he could assemble some semblance of a national strategy (don't make me laugh, I know) he couldn't get off the launching pad with it. And, indeed, he hasn't.
It's time for this clown to just resign and take his minions with him. I know they're busily wrecking decades of hard-won consumer and environmental protections behind this thick smoke screen.
It's time for this clown to just resign and take his minions with him. I know they're busily wrecking decades of hard-won consumer and environmental protections behind this thick smoke screen.
Said the Custodian to the Gravedigger, "Have you set out to dig the Trump grave yet?"
Gravedigger: "I don't need to, he's digging his own...one mouthful at a time."
Gravedigger: "I don't need to, he's digging his own...one mouthful at a time."
The fact Trump's so-called condemnation took alomst two full days to be spoken speaks volumes as to exactly where Donald Trump's true emotions and compassion/empathy reside. In short, Trump is devoid of such feelings. His issuing a short speech on the violence in Charlottesville was twisted out of him in the most painful way. His heart wasn't in it whatsoever. All "show and con".
Trump encouraged violence throughout his campaign cycle, often whipping up emotions by supporters to "rough them up" in reference to protestors. Oval Office staff members Seb Gorka, Steve Bannon, and Stephen Miller hardly have shown any empathy towards those affected by hatred, xenophobia, islamaphobia, racism, and intolerance. Trump's conduct has encouraged violent fringe groups to hear Trump's "dog whispers" - go out there and sic 'em. Create mayhem and amp up the violence to incite mayhem and chaos - all the perfect reflections of Donald Trump's psyche as a narcissist and megalomaniac.
So, how can citizens fight back against this violence? If you see a Neo-Nazi youth, Alt-Right thug, or White Supremacist hate monger engaged in violent and bad behavior, take their picture and post it on social media. Circulate and ask,
"Do you know this person?",
"Who is their employer?",
"Where do they go to school?",
"Where do they live?"
The bright light of the sun is the perfect antiseptic and disinfectant.
Trump encouraged violence throughout his campaign cycle, often whipping up emotions by supporters to "rough them up" in reference to protestors. Oval Office staff members Seb Gorka, Steve Bannon, and Stephen Miller hardly have shown any empathy towards those affected by hatred, xenophobia, islamaphobia, racism, and intolerance. Trump's conduct has encouraged violent fringe groups to hear Trump's "dog whispers" - go out there and sic 'em. Create mayhem and amp up the violence to incite mayhem and chaos - all the perfect reflections of Donald Trump's psyche as a narcissist and megalomaniac.
So, how can citizens fight back against this violence? If you see a Neo-Nazi youth, Alt-Right thug, or White Supremacist hate monger engaged in violent and bad behavior, take their picture and post it on social media. Circulate and ask,
"Do you know this person?",
"Who is their employer?",
"Where do they go to school?",
"Where do they live?"
The bright light of the sun is the perfect antiseptic and disinfectant.
Mr. President, I didn't vote for you, but as an American who believes in democracy and our Constitution, I have hoped for you to succeed. Unfortunately, you have proven yourself to be nothing more than the pathological narccisist we saw in the campaign. You are an unprincipled, transactional coward; a deer in the headlights at every turn; a whiner-in-chief. A little humility would have gone a long way. Today it's too late. Your arrogance and ignorance are taking you down. Russia, racism and your corrupt finances are not a matter of if, only when. You don't deserve America. America's reward will be remembering you forever for your incompetence, fear of truth and probably treason. Tick tock.
The constant attacks on twitter are really just demeaning Trump to a level of childishness most children would know better then too and have grown tired of long ago. If ignore the detractors rather than rising to the bait you can achieve far more by the positive actions you take but there just don't seem to be any.
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I'm very suspicious of the phrase "other hate groups" which he included in his denunciation. It was another piece of equivocation that was probably a rhetorical nod and wink to his "base." (And a more aptly named group I can't think of).
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"the SAME almighty God" (bolding is mine.)
And yet it remained unspoken which "God". Are we to each fill in the ambiguity with our own particular favorite? I think not - as this statement presupposes that we all know which "God" is being referenced.
More lazy, dysfunctional, confabulating nonsense from our so-called President.
And yet it remained unspoken which "God". Are we to each fill in the ambiguity with our own particular favorite? I think not - as this statement presupposes that we all know which "God" is being referenced.
More lazy, dysfunctional, confabulating nonsense from our so-called President.
And we are afraid of the North Koreans??
And Muslim "terrorists"?
I can't imagine how North Korea will end.
It is even harder to imagine how this will end. Not good. That's for sure.
It's time for the spineless Republican Congressmen to put their feet where their mouth is. Impeach the president before it is too late. (It might already be too late). trump HAS GOT TO GO. What more will it take for trump to do before the Congress realizes this man is himself a terrorist. The United States is the laughing stock of the world.
All this is really scary.
And Muslim "terrorists"?
I can't imagine how North Korea will end.
It is even harder to imagine how this will end. Not good. That's for sure.
It's time for the spineless Republican Congressmen to put their feet where their mouth is. Impeach the president before it is too late. (It might already be too late). trump HAS GOT TO GO. What more will it take for trump to do before the Congress realizes this man is himself a terrorist. The United States is the laughing stock of the world.
All this is really scary.
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Trump is obviously not a very bright fellow. As many others have pointed out, condemning Nazism is a no-brainer. But Trump can't do so because these are his followers, and they praise him. And we all know Trump loves praise, regardless of where it comes from. So Trump opts to blame everyone, his first utterly stupid move. But after it becomes evident to him that this is creating a huge backlash, even from the GOP, he changes his tune two days later and condemns white supremacists. But it's a fake, forced condemnation forced by his critics. So now Trump appears not only as a full-blown racist, but as a weak leader who lets others push him around. This is definitely NOT leadership.
Like many readers, I have photographs of family and friends displayed throughout my home. On one wall there hangs two old photographs. Each photograph is of a young man in a military uniform. One photograph is of my grandfather who served in the United States Marine Corps and the other photograph is my wife's grandfather who served in the United States Army. Both men served during WWII.
My grandfather, from Ohio, was stationed in California and was preparing to go to Japan prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. My wife's grandfather, from California, was sent to Europe where he was wounded by a Nazi machine gunner during the Battle of the Bulge. (My wife would tell me how her grandfather explained away the scars of war across his stomach as "extra bellybuttons.")
I do not like to think of crushing disappointment and renewed anger, these men of the Greatest Generation, would have experienced had they lived to see a Donald Trump Presidency, whose lack of vigor in calling out Nazi thuggery and hate borders on complacency if not outright complicity of Nazism.
They deserve better than this.
My grandfather, from Ohio, was stationed in California and was preparing to go to Japan prior to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. My wife's grandfather, from California, was sent to Europe where he was wounded by a Nazi machine gunner during the Battle of the Bulge. (My wife would tell me how her grandfather explained away the scars of war across his stomach as "extra bellybuttons.")
I do not like to think of crushing disappointment and renewed anger, these men of the Greatest Generation, would have experienced had they lived to see a Donald Trump Presidency, whose lack of vigor in calling out Nazi thuggery and hate borders on complacency if not outright complicity of Nazism.
They deserve better than this.
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He is no leader. He follows on every arena. The US cannot survive with him faking leadership any long. The renovation at the White House must start with replacing the occupant.
Trump has no morals as evidenced by his entire life. I am at a loss as to why those who voted for him didn't see this before installing him. Now we are all stuck with him and the hatred his ascendency has unleashed.
What's it going to take to start impeachment proceedings? This man is the idol of the racist fools who carry flags with swastikas on them. Only after everyone condemned Trump's pathetic response did he try to appease us. Will it take fighting in the streets between Nazi racists and good people to get Congress to act? I'm sick of this nightmare.
For months now I have seen people online complaining about protesters blocking streets and threatening to run them over. Looks like those people finally got their sick wish granted.. The people James Fields targeted with his car were out there counter-protesting the White Nationalist rally. They were standing up against racism and got ran over by a sick neo-nazi.
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Just to make it clear. Trump didn't rebuke it. It was the person who wrote it and it was put on the teleprompter...
Was that too hard to say the day of the violent incidents?
Was that too hard to say the day of the violent incidents?
Republicans and Congress do your job. Remove this man from office. Our national sanity is at stake.
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Racism is not an issue of "free speech," at least not no more than pedophilia is considered an issue of "free speech."
Evil is evil. The very idea that Humanity must allow violence and hatred to coexist in practice with all else is not only absurd and immoral, but incoherent.
Evil is evil. The very idea that Humanity must allow violence and hatred to coexist in practice with all else is not only absurd and immoral, but incoherent.
I Germany the display of any kind of Nazi paraphernalia incl.the salut is illegal and can be punished with prison.
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This is a horrid headline. Appalling and deeply disturbing. "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." Maya Angelou. He showed us on Saturday. It is time we all believe him. He agrees with the racist nazis.
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Trump is the carnival barker Obama said he was. He is a con man, not a leader, so he has had absolutely no need for "moral standing". Don't expect him to grow a conscience any time soon.
Right, and I have a bridge to sell you. He's reading from a teleprompter. I agree with Frank Bruni: "We saw a different palette at a lectern in the White House on early Monday afternoon, but it was pure artifice, and muted and unpersuasive because of that."
"Even Mr. Trump’s allies worried that his measured remarks...came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president."
The Groper/Liar-in-Chief' has "moral standing"? That's hilarious!!!! He's a consistent, persistent liar, he boasts about grabbing women's private parts, he's a self-serving con man charlatan hustler corrupt business man, he's belligerent and contentious with anyone who doesn't loyally fawn over him, and he's likely colluded with a hostile foreign power. Morality isn't anywhere near his orbit, and likely never was.
The Groper/Liar-in-Chief' has "moral standing"? That's hilarious!!!! He's a consistent, persistent liar, he boasts about grabbing women's private parts, he's a self-serving con man charlatan hustler corrupt business man, he's belligerent and contentious with anyone who doesn't loyally fawn over him, and he's likely colluded with a hostile foreign power. Morality isn't anywhere near his orbit, and likely never was.
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Trump is not an individual or "localized" challenge to America. He is merely the most visible eruption of a cancerous growth of hatred and xenophobia on the body politic. The 34% of American poll respondents that continue to support this vicious fiend's program of destroying our national character (which his brainiacs call the "deep state") through appeals to white fear and phony nostalgia for a whites-only drive-thru drag-meet soda-jerk past that NEVER WAS must be fought. These 34% must be re-educated, comforted that their real needs for health care and education will be addressed, and then punished like the recalcitrant teenaged bullies they are for their hideous Nazi and race war proclivities. No excuses. No exceptions. No "fellow travelling" with the confederacy. The "deep state" fiction is preferable to the Trumpian facts.
trump sure has made America grate- on the nerves of anyone who has a sense of moral decency and integrity; who believes that a country's political leaders should not benefit financially from their political position enhancing their personal business.
it is sad to see racial hatred growing - all from his example.
he is following the pattern of dictators and tyrants in having his family in key powerful positions
leader of the freee world - yeah right
proud that I am not american
it is sad to see racial hatred growing - all from his example.
he is following the pattern of dictators and tyrants in having his family in key powerful positions
leader of the freee world - yeah right
proud that I am not american
Moral standing? Trump don't need no stinking moral standing.
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Failed man.... failed president..... impeach now for treason, moral bankruptcy, incitement of hate, incompetence, petulance, lies, danger to the world .... take your pick. There is no need to debate what this man is thinking - just point out his egregious and daily errors....
Too little, too late. Trump's initial hesitation to speak at all, his refusal to condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis when he finally did offer his tepid first statement, and his failure to reject their support despite being offered three separate opportunities to do so, left no doubt where his true sympathies lie, what he actually thinks, who he truly is. What we saw then was indeed the @realDonaldTrump.
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Once again Trump was absolutely correct. What happened in Charlottesville was a meeting between 2 hate groups, and guess what, only one of them has been invited to the White House in the last 5 years. This is a taste of the end result of identity politics. Then we have the lefty outrage about Trumps statements. By the same logic, Obama should be considered the grand wizard of ISIS for his lack of uttering the words *Islamic terrorism* during his entire presidency. Its truly unbelievable. Let the mob tear down the statues,...that should help. I am sure the NYT will be there to cheer them on and huckster papers.
I question the New York Times writers and editors use of the phrase "white nationalist" to describe the fascists who rioted in Charlottsville. They may be white but, despite their sloganeering, they have no love or support for the nation. These are the same Dixiecrats turned Republicans who continually preach "state's rights" over national interests, refer to the Civil War as "the war between the states", and were gathered in support of the continued aggrandizement of the leader of the insurrectionists who lost that war more than a century and a half ago.
Many months ago there was a before and after image circulated on the Internet. The "after" was a legitimate photograph of Trump with a crowd of his closest supporters. The "before" picture was Photoshopped to show every one of them with a KKK hood on!
This Disgusting Display by Americans still fighting the Civil War; made everything crystal clear. The passion and urge to stand in the face of hate, fear and voluntary ignorance is great, to shout out and physically confront with warm bodies is almost a calling. We offended, cannot take the bait. Who gains? Better to deny services, and attention. When a Klansman, a Neo-Nazi Skinhead, an Alt-Right racist in a suit, can't get a gallon of gas, a pack of smokes, a burger at Mickie D's or a Hotel room, maybe then, they will take their assault rifles and limp back to whatever Superior White Hole they crawled from. They can get care from Alt-Right Doctors and blessings from Alt-Right clergy and buy produce from Alt-Right farmers and shop at Walmart and build doomsday bunkers, store ammo and try to compete for work and futures with all the brown and black and yellow and yes, White folks Not still fighting the Civil War and living in the 21st century. How's that working for them so far?
Faced with a severe backlash over Trump's thoroughly inadequate response, members of Team Trump scrambled to try to contain the damage. Eventually, after two more days of intense criticism, they finally persuaded Trump to gave a second, more complete statement.
Too little, too late. Trump's initial hesitation to speak at all, his refusal to condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis when he finally did offer his tepid first statement, and his failure to reject their support despite being offered three separate opportunities to do so, left no doubt where his true sympathies lie, what he actually thinks, who he truly is. What we saw then was indeed the @realDonaldTrump.
Too little, too late. Trump's initial hesitation to speak at all, his refusal to condemn white supremacists and neo-Nazis when he finally did offer his tepid first statement, and his failure to reject their support despite being offered three separate opportunities to do so, left no doubt where his true sympathies lie, what he actually thinks, who he truly is. What we saw then was indeed the @realDonaldTrump.
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Unless I am living inside a Star Trek episode, or the first Superman movie, there is no way to roll back time. Character tells in moments such as Saturday; Trump's equivocation tells a lot, and I am just saying that as someone who would apply that same standard to anyone. That hesitation, that equivocation, was a red flag.
I have no idea what the solution is. I have many in my own family who hold those views. I am at a loss. but at the very least, we should not have high office held by someone who sympathizes with Nazism.
I have no idea what the solution is. I have many in my own family who hold those views. I am at a loss. but at the very least, we should not have high office held by someone who sympathizes with Nazism.
Whatever NYT. Trump doesn't bow to pressure (which the article title suggests). Article title has editorial undertones. So typical of NYT. I have no false illusion the editor who screens this will not publish this even though it's contrary to typical NYT comments views. Thank you
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Sadly, the President's deferred rebuke came across as just another lie. Reading words off a teleprompter with no emotion, no passion, no strength of feeling only reassures his alt-right followers of his support for them.
The CEO's (especially Mr. Frazier) who stood up and spoke out against neo-Nazis generating hatred and bigotry on an American street showed true courage and leadership.
The CEO's (especially Mr. Frazier) who stood up and spoke out against neo-Nazis generating hatred and bigotry on an American street showed true courage and leadership.
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Trump is the "fake"in the news. He is a total liar and can't be trusted to speak the truth.
Doesn`t 45 remind you of an unrepentant child who was forced to bring the candy bar back to the store where he stole it and say I`m Sorry.
45 is a disgraceful, demeaning deplorable person who sadly has no ability to be even the local dog catcher (Saludos to them). He has absolutely no moral standing in this or any universe. He will replace James Buchanan as the worse President.
45 is a disgraceful, demeaning deplorable person who sadly has no ability to be even the local dog catcher (Saludos to them). He has absolutely no moral standing in this or any universe. He will replace James Buchanan as the worse President.
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Although this guy succumbed to national pressure, his belatedly speech was as ‘sincere’ as his attitude towards women and to anyone who does not adulate or flatter his repugnant ego. In the olden days, Nero and Caligula reacted in the same way when the writings in the Roman walls were not sufficiently laudatory of his absurd actions although, like now, there was never a reason to do it. All three surrounded themselves with sycophants whose perceived loyalty, as in the case of one Priebus The Midget, didn’t produced any results. True, the Fellow did denounce the anti-social groups of racist losers but, as any human of normal IQ, say above chimp level, saw the lack of sincerity and conviction that an alleged leader have shown in such dire circumstances. As Nelson Mandela rightly put it, nobody is born hating another human being because of the color of his skin. Those traits are taught and ‘nurtured during the process of growing up, and it takes a normal IQ level to understand it. Ms. Navarro was absolutely right, the Fellow is unfit to be human.
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Trump's actions, aside from distracting from productive legislation on health care, tax reform and infrastructure, are a violation of his oath of office. He has no sense of the Constitution or our history and his authoritarian, hypocritical, racist, xenophobic beliefs must be checked by all who see that he intends to reverse the social advances our country has made. He must not be permitted to further demean the vast majority of decent people. His fear mongering and press criticism is nothing more than what a dictator would do and it is so brazen that I fear too many do not realize that we are on a slippery slope. It continues to confound me that he still has many supporters who dismiss or deny his vile actions, but they believe that they have been harmed by those attacked by the Nazis and other hate groups.
Trump must go.
Trump must go.
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Interesting that a man who lies as easily as he breathes, Trump has such difficulty in simply reading a statement with any semblance of conviction even if prepared by others. (Even more interesting, Trump discussed with others his original statement on Charlottesville then completely disregarded all advice.)
Says so much about how unfit our present President is for the job.
Says so much about how unfit our present President is for the job.
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Andrew,
Where has Trump actually violated his oath of office ?
Where has he explicitly made a racist remark ?
Do not the Alt Left - Hate those who do not agree with them ?
Where has Trump actually violated his oath of office ?
Where has he explicitly made a racist remark ?
Do not the Alt Left - Hate those who do not agree with them ?
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Has Trump visited Charlotesville where not only was a woman killed but many injured, and many more students and residents distraught, even though the VA Governor had declared as state of emergency. I also don't remember any words of compassion for those people. Compare that to Obama's Amazing Grace in Charleston. I don't need to say more. I am sick to my stomach that this ungracious boor is in command of the Oval Office. He does not represent US, the majority of Americans.
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The sad thing is he DOES represent America, whether we like it or not. The country elected him and we are stuck with him until he leaves or is removed from office.
He is a complete embarrassment to our country and a total failure as a leader.
He is a complete embarrassment to our country and a total failure as a leader.
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And. . . White Supremacist Richard Spencer dismissed Trump's later words, pointing to Bannon and Miller as "possible fellow travelers" of the alt-right. He knows they aren't "possible" -- they are the real deal. And there they remain -- right in the middle of the West Wing.
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"moral standing as President"....was this written in error?
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My sentiment exactly - what moral standing?
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Yes. Sorry.
As fires rage all around Trump, I think our nation - and the rest of the world, has a good chance of being plunged into a global war within a year. He will not go down without a fight. I hope that the "deep state" exists - and that they are making plans to thwart moves that Trump might make to start a war to divert attention away from his constant stream of failures as a President.
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I don't remember the last time there were 3400 comments on a NYT story. But I don't remember a president like this, controversy like this, national anguish like this.
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As an example, I have examined most of the comments the NYT pushed through on this story and NYT has allowed most to go through except possibly the 10,000+ egregious swear filled comments.
What strikes me is the depths to which the conservative mind has sunk. Really.... George Soros was behind all this? Lib Anarchists? Prog devils? Who's kidding who?
What I saw is a bunch of white cowards hiding behind white shields in white shirts shouting Jew Jew Jew and Nazi flags. "you people" are traitors to your own Constitution. There is no way that anyone, except a white supremacist, can justify what happened.
What strikes me is the depths to which the conservative mind has sunk. Really.... George Soros was behind all this? Lib Anarchists? Prog devils? Who's kidding who?
What I saw is a bunch of white cowards hiding behind white shields in white shirts shouting Jew Jew Jew and Nazi flags. "you people" are traitors to your own Constitution. There is no way that anyone, except a white supremacist, can justify what happened.
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I remember when there was conflict like this. It was the horrible 60's!!! He's doing exactly what he campaigned on, "taking us back", yes back to the horrible 60's with his hate filled campaigning and hate filled rhetoric!!
I'm sill in mortal shock we as a nation elected this!!!!
I'm sill in mortal shock we as a nation elected this!!!!
It happened constantly during the last Presidency, but the Times purposefully ignored it.
It must have been so difficult for trump to condemn a significant block of his comrades and supporters...
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"Moral Standing"...! Not much to lose there.
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This is a truly frightening time to be an American. How long will it be before there is another civil war on American soil? Half of Trump's supporters wouldn't mind postponing the election by citing bogus election fraud claims, ostensibly extending the Trump presidency indefinitely. The war on truth and freedom of speech is already well under way. In the shadows, they are quietly, but diligently dismantling the framework of the institutions that protect us and the freedoms we have taken for granted for so long.
The legislation to restrict voting, facilitate asset forfeiture (without evidence or trial, I might add), prosecute peaceful protesters, implement draconian prison sentences, silence the media, and give corporations free rein to extract every single red cent from our citizens while they poison our air, land, and water with impunity are not far behind.
Imagine the citizens of Nazi Germany finally coming to the grim revelation that things were so much worse than they could have ever imagined and that escape or resistance was no longer a viable option for most of them. How many instances of "oh that would never happen here" are we afforded before we find ourselves sitting in our own front-row seats to the ultimate horror show?
The legislation to restrict voting, facilitate asset forfeiture (without evidence or trial, I might add), prosecute peaceful protesters, implement draconian prison sentences, silence the media, and give corporations free rein to extract every single red cent from our citizens while they poison our air, land, and water with impunity are not far behind.
Imagine the citizens of Nazi Germany finally coming to the grim revelation that things were so much worse than they could have ever imagined and that escape or resistance was no longer a viable option for most of them. How many instances of "oh that would never happen here" are we afforded before we find ourselves sitting in our own front-row seats to the ultimate horror show?
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Sadly, I agree. I have already revised my opinion of the German people after realizing how powerless I am in this situation in the USA.
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Joseph Welch's words during the McCarthy hearings pretty much sum the entire Charlottesville event and Donald Trump's response to them. "Have you no decency sir?" "At long last have you know decency?"
The GOP would should re-familiarize themselves with those words and draw the conclusions MR. Welch did. Another appropriate term would be the "Whole world is watching."
Trump and his minions are a disgrace to the nation. Perhaps he should be exiled to Moscow where he'd be more comfortable and among friends there since he's losing support here faster than the list can be reported.
The GOP would should re-familiarize themselves with those words and draw the conclusions MR. Welch did. Another appropriate term would be the "Whole world is watching."
Trump and his minions are a disgrace to the nation. Perhaps he should be exiled to Moscow where he'd be more comfortable and among friends there since he's losing support here faster than the list can be reported.
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Problem is that this virus has infected various parts of Europe and other democracies, and that's also where these vile creatures get their strength and encouragement from. Fortunately, so far at least, they have not been very successful anywhere, except the US (let's face it, the election of Trump is clearly a victory for the KKK, their leader clearly said so). Hopefully, as someone else mentioned here in the comment section, Trump won't convince his general to start a war with NK just to divert attention from his bizarre and completely failed administration.
Trump's remarks "came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage of his moral standing as president".
The word moral in one sentence with the name Donald Trump is an oxymoron par excellence.
The word moral in one sentence with the name Donald Trump is an oxymoron par excellence.
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Oh yeah, real brave to speak out in lock step with the lefties. I guess it means they will NOT be attacked on social medial? I guess it means those that speak with the lefties are safe from persecution and attack. Hmmm,...they have a word for that...
As repulsive as the alt-right may be, their outsized theatrics represent a far milder threat to the American ideal than do the words of "twitter progressives" who say nonsensical things like "hate speech is not free speech." Of course it is. One only need to look to Russia to see that key to that neo-fascist dictatorship is the suppression of legitimate dissent by labelling it at hateful or violent or whatever.
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So "Hate speech is not free speech", is worse than a guy incited by "Hate speech" to mow down a young lady with his car? Or how about that "Hate Speech" leading to another guy gunning down 9 people in a church?
What's mild about speech that leads to the taking of lives?
What's mild about speech that leads to the taking of lives?
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What happened to this oath: " Article VI of the Constitution requires Officials to take an oath “to support this Constitution.” Today, 5 U.S.C. 3331 specifies the language of the oath for federal officials. According to this statute, officials must “solemnly swear (or affirm)” that they “will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and that they “will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.” Nazi's, Alt right, Bannon all want the destruction of the US Government. IS this not grounds for impeachment?
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"White nationalist" and "White supremacist" are euphemisms for RACISTS. It is essential for the media to drop the euphemisms. Normalizing racism and all other equivocations prolong racism and justify racism.
Trump rose to national attention by denying Obama's legitimacy, his citizenship, and made accusations that Obama is Muslim. Trump continued his accusations in the face of facts and evidence until he was well into his campaign. Trump has emboldened racists, xenophobes and misogynists and sought and received the support of "alt-right" racists and installed "alt-right" racists in the White House: Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Gorka.
Trump's response to the murder in Charlottesville was similar to his responses to violence during the campaign. Outrage forced a careful second response but that was equivocated in Trump's tweet last night. Trump gets his information and talking points, not from the NSA, or any of the Intel community, but from extreme right propaganda and delusional crackpots. Trump de-legitimized his second response by attempting to create a false equivalence about deaths in Chicago and the murder in Charlottesville in a re-tweet.
Disgraceful, stupid, and confused, Trump has done more harm to race relations, domestic relationships and international relations in 6 months than has any enemy of the United States in memorable history. Corporate leaders are pulling away. So far 3 executives have resigned from the American Manufacturing Council. Where are the rest?
Trump rose to national attention by denying Obama's legitimacy, his citizenship, and made accusations that Obama is Muslim. Trump continued his accusations in the face of facts and evidence until he was well into his campaign. Trump has emboldened racists, xenophobes and misogynists and sought and received the support of "alt-right" racists and installed "alt-right" racists in the White House: Bannon, Stephen Miller, and Gorka.
Trump's response to the murder in Charlottesville was similar to his responses to violence during the campaign. Outrage forced a careful second response but that was equivocated in Trump's tweet last night. Trump gets his information and talking points, not from the NSA, or any of the Intel community, but from extreme right propaganda and delusional crackpots. Trump de-legitimized his second response by attempting to create a false equivalence about deaths in Chicago and the murder in Charlottesville in a re-tweet.
Disgraceful, stupid, and confused, Trump has done more harm to race relations, domestic relationships and international relations in 6 months than has any enemy of the United States in memorable history. Corporate leaders are pulling away. So far 3 executives have resigned from the American Manufacturing Council. Where are the rest?
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We all know he's one of them. He knows it and so does everyone else. The man was brought to court for not allowing black people to live in his buildings and he called for the execution of 3 innocent black teenagers in the Central Park rape incident in 1989.
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It's been mentioned many times before, but sadly there is a fairly big element in the Republican party that at least in part embraces what Trump and his bizarre supporters espouse. The Republicans had a chance to support a different candidate, they had a chance to denounce him during the campaign, to withhold support and refuse to allow his kind to represent their party in the national election. But they didn't. So it is no accident that he's still allowed to spew his venom daily via twitter and supposed "agenda", whatever that might actually be. Doesn't seem anyone in this administration is serious about anything, and if you need to bring in a retired general to "clean up" and bring in adults in to the fold, then what is the point of this presidency? That means Trump has no credibility and no legitimacy, so why the pretense? It's a day late and a dollar short.
Vanity has never wielded such power in American history. Trump, while refusing to fully condemn racism in a morally convincing way, consistently and with conviction, has severely weakened his bond, however tenuous, with the American people.
He only cares about maintaining his voter base, which includes the lot of alt-right res, neo-nazis and white supremacists. If anything finally gets him impeached, it will be this event. He has been trying to swim out of the black hole of his own hypocrisy since Inauguration Day. No progress.
He only cares about maintaining his voter base, which includes the lot of alt-right res, neo-nazis and white supremacists. If anything finally gets him impeached, it will be this event. He has been trying to swim out of the black hole of his own hypocrisy since Inauguration Day. No progress.
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"Day late and a dollar short"
His denouncement of the racists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists sounded so forced and unenthusiastic. Trump had to read it from the teleprompter, not sure if he is able to string together coherent thoughts in a sentence without the aid of prepared notes. Is he really that spiteful or is it just another play to solidify the base of voters that managed to get him elected. It is a bit unnerving to realize that there are so many racists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists still in the US 50 some years after the civil rights movement began. Is the US still that racist? That is sad.
The people of the US need to look in their souls and make some changes for the better.
It is shocking that Trump will not denounce racism. His own grand-children are Jewish as is his son-in-law and daughter. How does he explain antisemitism and racism to his grand-children? Do they ask Jared and Ivanka why grandpa will not speak out against hate and racism?
It is time that Trump fires Bannon, Murray and Gorka and gets his vice-president to go find some real people to be part of the staff.
His denouncement of the racists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists sounded so forced and unenthusiastic. Trump had to read it from the teleprompter, not sure if he is able to string together coherent thoughts in a sentence without the aid of prepared notes. Is he really that spiteful or is it just another play to solidify the base of voters that managed to get him elected. It is a bit unnerving to realize that there are so many racists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists still in the US 50 some years after the civil rights movement began. Is the US still that racist? That is sad.
The people of the US need to look in their souls and make some changes for the better.
It is shocking that Trump will not denounce racism. His own grand-children are Jewish as is his son-in-law and daughter. How does he explain antisemitism and racism to his grand-children? Do they ask Jared and Ivanka why grandpa will not speak out against hate and racism?
It is time that Trump fires Bannon, Murray and Gorka and gets his vice-president to go find some real people to be part of the staff.
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Moral standing is to 45 as philanthropy is to greedy.
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Trump plans on pardoning Joe Arpaio, one of the vilest of the haters. More hate from Trump. He says Arpaio represents anti-immigration and is a true hero. Talk about hatred and bigotry.
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So tell me: Are we still supposed to feel sorry for, and try to "understand." all those people who put this white supremacist and his gang in the Oval Office?
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I guess we can feel sorry for their profound ignorance and how it ultimately impacts everyone else. But no, not having much sympathy for people who voted for Trump as a "protest" against Clinton, or because they were feeling slighted by the Democrats and broken promises made by Obama. At least I wish they would all be honest and they should all come out and join their white supremacist brothers and stop pretending this is about lack of jobs and closed coal mines. As if the recession only impacted the "real America" in the heartland. Good grief!
We all know that Donald said what he said about white guys because he had to. He didn't really mean it.
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Deplorable. HRC called it like it is. Simply deplorable.
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Trump does not reflect the values and ideals that made this country great. He should be ashamed.
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I still love my country and my president. :) God Bless President Trump!
The difference between swift condemnation and a 2 day later put down is exoneration of racism here. Supremists tonight sleep soundly. The wink and message is he had to give in to the politically correct scolds, didn't mean anything personal.
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Mr. Trump has recited a few words. So what. How can anyone take these words seriously when hate groups themselves don't. Like Richard B. Spencer said, "Only a dumb person would take those lines seriously." My sentiment exactly.
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Funny Trumps been in spotlight and Tv for his whole life and never been called a racist til election.I don't think you become racist at 70..Liberal narrative is always to call names
Liberal narritive is to call names ? Have a quick browse at alternate right media. There is nothing else there but name calling and personal attacks. Nothing of substence, nothing of derp thought or engagement, just distraction, pandering and name calling. At least if you have a stand, put some heft of thought and intellect behind it....
Correction: He's been tagged with that label since 1973 when the U.S. Justice Department accused he and his father Fred of blocking blacks from renting apartments and that was just the start, forcing them to settle and reverse the practice.
Huffington Post tracked his tainted history here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/president-donald-trump-racist-exampl...
Huffington Post tracked his tainted history here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/president-donald-trump-racist-exampl...
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Republican Congress - where are you? Still out to lunch? Everybody else in this country, world speaks out. Even CEOs from major companies. At the cost of pathetic tweets from your leader. He doesn't lead us. He's not on our side. He is your guy, you get the blame for this catastrophe you let , no you encourage to continue. If you were thinking it's looking good for you, you'ld be wrong. Do your jobs. A few speaking out each time ? Really? And you want to be in office again?
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This is no longer about partisanship. It's about uniting for justice, truth and honor. My husband and I had always voted Republican in the years past, but this year, the acting president of our country has confirmed for both of us that we were right in voting for Hillary. She would not have been our choice, were it not for the force of our hand with this poser. Truly sad state of affairs for our country.
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I find it striking how readers commenting completely ignore that what happened in Charlottesville was a clash between two militant groups on both extremes of the political spectrum, with the one on the left, Antifa, having a worse record of recent unprovoked violence and therefore potentially more dangerous.
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These were not even his words...someone wrote them. He never says full sentences...
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I certainly wouldn't have needed any teleprompter to express my outrage and condemnation about the heinous events in Charlottesville. His words are hollow and insincere but why bother to think this man is anything other than pathetically incapable of seeing the pain and suffering he tacitly condones.
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Trump went 'soul-mining' via the teleprompter. We are not fooled; it has been out there all along, Donald, in your Twitter feed.
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If you have to extort a statement from Trump, it isn't worth much.
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Trump has to start acting like a president of USA and watch his words on Twitter and also on TV.He should prepare his statements ahead and then talk from them.It is time that we unite our beautiful country and focus on its goals and future leadership to the world.
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Paraphrasing Terry Mcauliffe: To the current occupant of the White House: Our message is plain and simple. Go home. You are not wanted in this great nation. Shame on you.
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It's remarkable, really, how well the country is doing in general, considering we are now living in the movie "The Manchurian candidate", except with a different ending.
We were warned all along.
Consider: today, Trump's contrarian action- of attacking Frazier, the African American CEO who resigned from the President's Council- before belatedly, grudgingly, and in-eloquently, attacking the Nazis and the KKK.
But it seems churlish to expect otherwise, at this point- didn't he attack the gold star Khans, didn't he attack McCain's service as a POW, didn't he imitate a disabled reporter, didn't he have a history of racist methods, stretching from his racial bias in housing, to his long race baiting of Obama (with the fabricated Birth Certificate story, the alleged wiretapping, and his statement that Obama was so bad as president, that no African American could follow him for a long time- showing how he really views race), didn't he insist a Hispanic judge couldn't be objective, and isn't he trying (with his small cadre of white supremacists/sympathizers- Bannon, Gorka, and Miller) to carve a nationalist regime out of our constitutional democracy, enabling their agenda on immigration, refugees, voting rights, etc, etc?
Once one of those fabled "presidential crisis" was upon us, how could anyone ever have expected anything other than what happened this weekend?
Seriously.
But it's remarkable, all the same, how well we're doing.
We were warned all along.
Consider: today, Trump's contrarian action- of attacking Frazier, the African American CEO who resigned from the President's Council- before belatedly, grudgingly, and in-eloquently, attacking the Nazis and the KKK.
But it seems churlish to expect otherwise, at this point- didn't he attack the gold star Khans, didn't he attack McCain's service as a POW, didn't he imitate a disabled reporter, didn't he have a history of racist methods, stretching from his racial bias in housing, to his long race baiting of Obama (with the fabricated Birth Certificate story, the alleged wiretapping, and his statement that Obama was so bad as president, that no African American could follow him for a long time- showing how he really views race), didn't he insist a Hispanic judge couldn't be objective, and isn't he trying (with his small cadre of white supremacists/sympathizers- Bannon, Gorka, and Miller) to carve a nationalist regime out of our constitutional democracy, enabling their agenda on immigration, refugees, voting rights, etc, etc?
Once one of those fabled "presidential crisis" was upon us, how could anyone ever have expected anything other than what happened this weekend?
Seriously.
But it's remarkable, all the same, how well we're doing.
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Unless Trump says it in a tweet, he doesn't really mean it.
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I agree with the white nationalist/nazi Richard B. Spencer (whose name I will promptly forget) about one thing. That revised statement was "kumbaya nonsense" and "only a dumb person would take those lines seriously."
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Too little, too late. The Neo: Nazi-Confederates have clearly already received the "right hand of fellowship" from Mr. Trump. The traditional POTUS window to serve as healer and reconciler chief has closed.
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The media is so desperate to regain power, any power at all, it just chews on the president and ignores the news. What kind of country allows citizens to carry torches, bats, poles and weapons in a riot? >Hopefully the foreign press can let us know.
I think the president's speech was excellent and timed after the facts were clear. The media, however, is a near complete failure.
And don't try to tar me. I'm a lefty, single payer, Bernnie booster for heavens sake.
I think the president's speech was excellent and timed after the facts were clear. The media, however, is a near complete failure.
And don't try to tar me. I'm a lefty, single payer, Bernnie booster for heavens sake.
Perhaps I missed it, but has our president even mentioned the name Heather Heyer?
This woman stood up to Nazis and the KKK and she died for it and I'm not convinced our president has even heard of her. I'm equally unsure if our president, if he has heard of Heather Heyer, would consider her a victim or someone who maybe got what she deserved because there's hate on "many sides".
I don't think we should have to wonder such things about our president.
This woman stood up to Nazis and the KKK and she died for it and I'm not convinced our president has even heard of her. I'm equally unsure if our president, if he has heard of Heather Heyer, would consider her a victim or someone who maybe got what she deserved because there's hate on "many sides".
I don't think we should have to wonder such things about our president.
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The REAL crisis is NOT "Fake News." It is a "FAKE PRESIDENT of the United States of America." In short, We do not have Fake News -- We have a Fake POTUS.
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Once again the MSM has totally blown a story out of proportion and twisted it into a negative. The MSM is compounding division amongst the races.
President Trump has repeatedly and consistently spoken out against racism, bigotry and white-supremacists. He's repeatedly stated we're all Americans and we all need to unite since we all bleed the same color.
But that's not good enough for the MSM or the left -- in fact, NOTHING President Trump could say or do would be good enough -- the MSM / left twists and distorts everything and turn it negative.
More importantly: racism, hatred, bigotry and bullying goes two ways -- and often if there's a large group they'll 'gang up' on whoever the minority is. Pick any group, any color, anywhere, anytime. And many people who never had a racist bone in their body have been dragged down into the muck by the non-stop vitriol that's tearing the country apart, AGAIN.
So, there ARE 'many sides.'
America painted itself into a corner decades ago, via affirmative-action, mulitculturism and diversity. Caving into and apologizing each time someone raised the race-card.
And be honest; under Obama, many people of color in different walks of life became emboldened to consistently 'steam-roll' white people. Like the muslims who bragged they were going to be the majority in public-schools in patterson, or the illegal-immigrants / latinos who bragged they were going to take over california and cede from the U.S.
We all need to get along - PEACE.
President Trump has repeatedly and consistently spoken out against racism, bigotry and white-supremacists. He's repeatedly stated we're all Americans and we all need to unite since we all bleed the same color.
But that's not good enough for the MSM or the left -- in fact, NOTHING President Trump could say or do would be good enough -- the MSM / left twists and distorts everything and turn it negative.
More importantly: racism, hatred, bigotry and bullying goes two ways -- and often if there's a large group they'll 'gang up' on whoever the minority is. Pick any group, any color, anywhere, anytime. And many people who never had a racist bone in their body have been dragged down into the muck by the non-stop vitriol that's tearing the country apart, AGAIN.
So, there ARE 'many sides.'
America painted itself into a corner decades ago, via affirmative-action, mulitculturism and diversity. Caving into and apologizing each time someone raised the race-card.
And be honest; under Obama, many people of color in different walks of life became emboldened to consistently 'steam-roll' white people. Like the muslims who bragged they were going to be the majority in public-schools in patterson, or the illegal-immigrants / latinos who bragged they were going to take over california and cede from the U.S.
We all need to get along - PEACE.
Trump couldn't even make the effort to sound sincere or even look the slightest bit interested in the scripted telepromter "rebuke" of the white supremacists in Charlottesville he read without a hint of fury which was obviously written by someone else.
Meanwhile, civil, compassionate and inclusive Americans continue to despair over the evil, hate and utter incompetence of the illegitimate resident in the White House. Deplorable.
Meanwhile, civil, compassionate and inclusive Americans continue to despair over the evil, hate and utter incompetence of the illegitimate resident in the White House. Deplorable.
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fake news accounts: I had an opportunity to talk with an Hispanic police officer from Mt. View CA (home to google) last summer. He had just finished a vacation in the northern california town in which i live--beaches and redwoods which he had enjoyed with his family. "you live in mt View? "no." too expensive? "No none of us (are told to) live in the towns we work in--local people are hostel to us" What do you think about what happened in Ferguson? "oh that, that was something the media dreamed up--blew all out of proportion" end of conversation.
someone is advising these police officers to shoot first, and to kill, at any provocation. Who is that? And why do they get away with it? Is it stand your ground, an excuse to attack "others" based on race? Is it fueled by the NRA? Today, at its heart, are these people white supremacists? WERE THOSE GUNS LOADED AT CHARLOTTESVILLE? If so, not just intimidation, a hair trigger away from a major disaster.
Fake news is not just bought up by the white racists that came to the U VA. It's in law enforcement. On top of that Trump, Sessions, and Republicans in Congress are working day and night to take the vote away from African Americans and Hispanics.
Look at the video of Sandra Bland arriving at the police station
someone is advising these police officers to shoot first, and to kill, at any provocation. Who is that? And why do they get away with it? Is it stand your ground, an excuse to attack "others" based on race? Is it fueled by the NRA? Today, at its heart, are these people white supremacists? WERE THOSE GUNS LOADED AT CHARLOTTESVILLE? If so, not just intimidation, a hair trigger away from a major disaster.
Fake news is not just bought up by the white racists that came to the U VA. It's in law enforcement. On top of that Trump, Sessions, and Republicans in Congress are working day and night to take the vote away from African Americans and Hispanics.
Look at the video of Sandra Bland arriving at the police station
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Charlottesville shows us that the goal of the White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi, Alt-Right is to produce fear and outrage. They measure the power of their effect by the intensity of the decibels of rage that results. The greater the confrontation they generate, the greater they perceive their power.
Rather than combating them frontally, the way to defeat them is to confront them at every turn with a “Wall of Silence.” At their every appearance, march or demonstration, they should be met with a deafening cocoon of silence: a gathering of a massive force of opposition that rigorously adheres to Gandhi and Martin Luther King’s tactics of nonviolence and that employs total silence as the weapon of resistance.
Recorded on a thousand cell phone videos gone viral, the sound and image of their pure hate will resonate across the country. It will deny them the protection of anonymity, and the notoriety will emasculate them.
There should be no resistance or counter demonstration. All we will see and hear is thousands of silent witnesses enduring their hate-speech and anti-American vitriol. Any physical violence by the fascists will be met with silence and total non-violence. Their shouts of Nazi slogans and symbols of white supremacy will backfire and result in humiliation that demonstrates their impotence. When thousands react peacefully, with silence and dignity, the true depravity of their fascist, racist credo will be revealed and will be rejected overwhelmingly.
Rather than combating them frontally, the way to defeat them is to confront them at every turn with a “Wall of Silence.” At their every appearance, march or demonstration, they should be met with a deafening cocoon of silence: a gathering of a massive force of opposition that rigorously adheres to Gandhi and Martin Luther King’s tactics of nonviolence and that employs total silence as the weapon of resistance.
Recorded on a thousand cell phone videos gone viral, the sound and image of their pure hate will resonate across the country. It will deny them the protection of anonymity, and the notoriety will emasculate them.
There should be no resistance or counter demonstration. All we will see and hear is thousands of silent witnesses enduring their hate-speech and anti-American vitriol. Any physical violence by the fascists will be met with silence and total non-violence. Their shouts of Nazi slogans and symbols of white supremacy will backfire and result in humiliation that demonstrates their impotence. When thousands react peacefully, with silence and dignity, the true depravity of their fascist, racist credo will be revealed and will be rejected overwhelmingly.
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The Elephant in The Room
“Racism is evil,” said Mr. Trump, delivering a statement from the White House at a hastily arranged appearance meant to halt the growing political threat posed by the unrest. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including .....ME
“Racism is evil,” said Mr. Trump, delivering a statement from the White House at a hastily arranged appearance meant to halt the growing political threat posed by the unrest. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including .....ME
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Just what Americans want. Pay taxes so a bunch of wild eyed Nazi maniacs can make like Hitler's SS and then have Bannon write the speech for Trump that straddles between denouncing the right wing White Supremacists and makes Neo Nazis the third rail of government.
Bannon, Miller and Gorka have to go. If Trump is that stupid that he doesn't see the connection between a Breitbart Bannon and his Neo Nazi sympathizer cohorts Gorka and Miller, it is because, as always, Trump doesn't want to see the connection.
At least now we know who the "Trump base" is.
Bannon, Miller and Gorka have to go. If Trump is that stupid that he doesn't see the connection between a Breitbart Bannon and his Neo Nazi sympathizer cohorts Gorka and Miller, it is because, as always, Trump doesn't want to see the connection.
At least now we know who the "Trump base" is.
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No one will ever be happy with what the president says. So he just needs to stop trying.
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Who can be happy when faced with ignorance?
I disagree. I will be happy with what the president says when he says "I resign the position of President of the United States of America, effective immediately."
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Funny how often that was said when Obama was President.
Oh, wait…
Oh, wait…
1) I do not recall the Times calling on President Obama to denounce anti-White racism following the BLM-inspired slaughter of Dallas policemen. The gunman clearly expressed his desire to kill Whites.
2) Where is the denunciation of the rabid anti-White leftist groups that perpetrate violence at any pro-Trump or White interest demonstration? I am not convinced that being concerned about the protection of Civil War monuments makes one a "White Nationalist," but, in any event, such demonstrators are entitled to the same protection as more favored groups, like BLM.
3) So we're assuming the man driving the car is guilty of manslaughter at least, and presumably murder, and did not act in any way in self-defense? No presumption of innocence here, needless to say. How many times have we heard of non-White suspects "there is no evidence of a hate crime,""there is no evidence that this was terrorism,""he acted alone"...etc. I have seen some suggestion via videos that the car was surrounded by bat-wielding assailants, but have not read in these pages ANY discussion of these possibly important circumstances.
It would be good to start a national conversation where all White people are not assumed to be guilty of racism, whatever that much debased term may now mean.
2) Where is the denunciation of the rabid anti-White leftist groups that perpetrate violence at any pro-Trump or White interest demonstration? I am not convinced that being concerned about the protection of Civil War monuments makes one a "White Nationalist," but, in any event, such demonstrators are entitled to the same protection as more favored groups, like BLM.
3) So we're assuming the man driving the car is guilty of manslaughter at least, and presumably murder, and did not act in any way in self-defense? No presumption of innocence here, needless to say. How many times have we heard of non-White suspects "there is no evidence of a hate crime,""there is no evidence that this was terrorism,""he acted alone"...etc. I have seen some suggestion via videos that the car was surrounded by bat-wielding assailants, but have not read in these pages ANY discussion of these possibly important circumstances.
It would be good to start a national conversation where all White people are not assumed to be guilty of racism, whatever that much debased term may now mean.
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Give me a break! Even ignoring the videos that clearly show him braking before then accelerating into the crowd, the intent was clear. Just stop bending over backwards to justify this!
Self defense for the man who seemingly deliberately drove into a group of counter protestors leaving the protest? Were the counterprotesters shooting at him that he thought he could use his car as a killing machine? Do you realize how absurd that statement comes across? And how desperate you sound to defend the indefensible?
It is really odd that you capitalize the word white in your comment above. Why is that? Do you somehow think that it is a superior color to others? The Black Lives Matter movement doesn't compare, in any way, to the KKK or the neo-Nazis and you know it. Any movement can attract a "lunatic fringe". The man who shot those police officers was one of those.
Take it from an old, white woman. I was born in 1949 and grew up watching southern white police officers mowing down peaceful protesters with fire hoses and sicking dogs on them. (This was for the crime of wanting to eat at a lunch counter.) I was a teenager when those three college kids, trying to register voters, were murdered by the KKK. I remember when they dug up their bodies (and two of them were white, by the way). I could go on, but it would take chapters to describe the indescribably difficult journey that our black citizens have suffered at our hands. If the "Whites" had been treated like this, you might just go a little cuckoo too!
Take it from an old, white woman. I was born in 1949 and grew up watching southern white police officers mowing down peaceful protesters with fire hoses and sicking dogs on them. (This was for the crime of wanting to eat at a lunch counter.) I was a teenager when those three college kids, trying to register voters, were murdered by the KKK. I remember when they dug up their bodies (and two of them were white, by the way). I could go on, but it would take chapters to describe the indescribably difficult journey that our black citizens have suffered at our hands. If the "Whites" had been treated like this, you might just go a little cuckoo too!
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Trump's revisionism over Charlottesville was bloodless, devoid of compassion, conviction and leadership, and didn't even fool some of the alt-right. It was the same with the Portland murders, another egregious omission of his. The fact that what should have been an important statement was tacked on to another puff about his achievements added to the insult.
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Expect protests on a whole new level if Trump pardons Arpaio. How anyone could see that man as anything but evil is beyond belief. But then again, Trump cannot see beyond his own needs.
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The Germans warned us after Trump met with Chancellor Merkel that Trump was a figurehead for the wrong element in society.
The right wing's major thrust is power. But that began when the Republican Party overplayed their Congressional majority they intepreted to mean: Absolute power.
Note how not a single word of denouncement comes from the Republican Big Boys like McConnell, Grassley, Ryan, Gowdy, Cotton or Cornyn? For them to say a word against the white supremacists would be to dishonor their ancestral heritage they call "culture."
The right wing's major thrust is power. But that began when the Republican Party overplayed their Congressional majority they intepreted to mean: Absolute power.
Note how not a single word of denouncement comes from the Republican Big Boys like McConnell, Grassley, Ryan, Gowdy, Cotton or Cornyn? For them to say a word against the white supremacists would be to dishonor their ancestral heritage they call "culture."
If you look at the photo closely, you'll see tears in George Washington's eyes. SAD.
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Yes, but did he tweet it?
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the most succinct observation of all these comments
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I notice that there's an editorial in today's paper "How Mr. Trump could face up to White Supremacists." Does the writer really think this person could ever change or would ever want to change? He loves this stuff; the brawling, the pitting of one group against another, and he's been a white supremacist for a long, long time. Relentlessly taunting Obama about where he was born and then,years later basically saying, "just kidding." Putting an ad in the Times calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (they were all innocent), then going on Larry King and saying that we need 'more hate' in the world, being sued by the federal government for refusing to rent to blacks. Are these the actions of an enlightened man? Or a man who even thinks about the damage he inflicts on people by the things that he says and does? Emotionally he's a child. He has absolutely no empathy for anyone except himself, for whom he seems willing to shed buckets of tears. There's a white supremacist in the White House and he is the unmasking of what the Republican party has been for years. How much lower can we sink? I think we need to stop treating him as a man capable of leadership. It's a dangerous path to take,
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Trump needs to directly address David Duke's words from Saturday -
“This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back."
Trump's empty words -"we condemn, in the strongest possible terms", mean nothing without an actual condemnation.
Most of America can see that Trump is unwilling to do so, because white supremacists and racists make up a large part of his base. They are his unwavering 35%.
That Trump is so tone deaf he is right now considering a pardon for Arpaio speaks volumes. His "white supremacists are bad" (wink, wink) is on full display. Trump needs to remember he is president of ALL of America.
Congress needs to remind him, or remove him.
“This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back,” Duke said. “We are going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in. That’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back."
Trump's empty words -"we condemn, in the strongest possible terms", mean nothing without an actual condemnation.
Most of America can see that Trump is unwilling to do so, because white supremacists and racists make up a large part of his base. They are his unwavering 35%.
That Trump is so tone deaf he is right now considering a pardon for Arpaio speaks volumes. His "white supremacists are bad" (wink, wink) is on full display. Trump needs to remember he is president of ALL of America.
Congress needs to remind him, or remove him.
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Moral standing? What moral standing? The guy has no shred of moral standing, which is why he is so unbearable in the role of President
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Would that a man with the integrity, courage and moral strength of Mr. Frazier were our President! Hmm!
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Consider the fact that Mr. Trump had to be "pressured" to denounce white supremacists. He did not reflexively denounce them.
That fact should be sufficient to finally snap a large portion of America out of its stupor.
That fact should be sufficient to finally snap a large portion of America out of its stupor.
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Just because the NYT says it...does not make it so. They have a clear agenda and could not lead with a Trump neutral headline if the fate of the world depended on it. A child could see this.
The stupor is deeply ingrained.
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I was going to say, a large portion of America hasn't been in a stupor - and the others, Trump's followers, will continue to feel that he is being unfairly criticized. But I suppose there are still the undecideds - it would be interesting to see if this changes any of their minds. But how anyone can have remained undecided about this guy is a mystery.
I think this probably says all you need to say about the interaction between race and law enforcement in America today:
The white, 20-year old neo-Nazi from Ohio who, taking his cue from recent ISIS-inspired attacks in Europe, drove his car at high speed into a group of peaceful demonstrators, killing one and injuring 19, was taken into police custody alive. No shots were fired.
Now, just suppose the driver had been a 20-year old black male. Do you think the result would have been the same?
The white, 20-year old neo-Nazi from Ohio who, taking his cue from recent ISIS-inspired attacks in Europe, drove his car at high speed into a group of peaceful demonstrators, killing one and injuring 19, was taken into police custody alive. No shots were fired.
Now, just suppose the driver had been a 20-year old black male. Do you think the result would have been the same?
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Also, where was the "I, Donald J. Trump, blah blah blah." At this announcement he said "we." Who's "we." The staff that insisted he make a half-way decent statement.
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One commentator on MSNBC said Trump looked like a hostage reading a statement that he did not believe in.....couldn't agree more.
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Where was the outcry when BLM caused the killing of cops from Dallas to New York, and burned down streets and businesses.
How did Obama react and how did the media react.
The white supremacists didn't kill cops or burn down streets and businesses.
Trump is right initially for comparing both of them.
And his second statement is not from the heart, he was pushed to the corner.
You can detect it from the way he expressed himself and the words that came out his mouth.
It's a pity he apologized at the end, because the young animals are way worse, and also the media supporting them.
Doesn't give right for the alt right, but to put both of them on the same page, 100%, everyone is evil in their way.
How did Obama react and how did the media react.
The white supremacists didn't kill cops or burn down streets and businesses.
Trump is right initially for comparing both of them.
And his second statement is not from the heart, he was pushed to the corner.
You can detect it from the way he expressed himself and the words that came out his mouth.
It's a pity he apologized at the end, because the young animals are way worse, and also the media supporting them.
Doesn't give right for the alt right, but to put both of them on the same page, 100%, everyone is evil in their way.
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I'm no fan of Merck or big pharma, but Trump has made them worthy of my respect. How did we get here?
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Trump is not a moral man. Anybody that has followed his life, long before he ever ran for office, would know. Trump cannot rule, he should not rule, he is incapable.
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I doubt very much that this speech is sincere. Can I be blamed?
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Good on Mr. Frazier for demonstrating what sacrifice for your beliefs truly looks like.
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There can be little doubt Trump himself is a White Nationalist. His forced response to criticism yesterday was not heartfelt and the Groups he admonished knew he was compelled to say what he said. So very ashamed of our country's Leadership especially Trump.
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-"came too late to reverse the self-inflicted damage on his moral standing as president". No worry, I think that day passed a long time ago.
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Fascist would-be dictator Trump begins his supposed statement of contrition today with yet another dig at his African American predecessor, with this comment: "we are renegotiating trade deals and making them good for the American people...and it is about time."
He is unable to hide his true nature. He is a white supremacist fascist and would-be dictator. There are plenty in Congress who green light and support his agenda and have remained silent throughout our country's most painful ordeal--the ordeal of the Trump presidency. On a cellular level, he is unable to stop hating his African American predecessor...and his female electoral opponent. He let 48 hours go by before he acknowledged the loss of three innocent lives in Charlottesville. He is incapable of tamping down any of the Christian white alt-right fury he has fostered for more than a decade since initiating his outlandish birther movement.
As David Gergen so wisely said this evening about him: He cannot address the hatred in the country until he addresses the hatred in his own heart."
He is unable to hide his true nature. He is a white supremacist fascist and would-be dictator. There are plenty in Congress who green light and support his agenda and have remained silent throughout our country's most painful ordeal--the ordeal of the Trump presidency. On a cellular level, he is unable to stop hating his African American predecessor...and his female electoral opponent. He let 48 hours go by before he acknowledged the loss of three innocent lives in Charlottesville. He is incapable of tamping down any of the Christian white alt-right fury he has fostered for more than a decade since initiating his outlandish birther movement.
As David Gergen so wisely said this evening about him: He cannot address the hatred in the country until he addresses the hatred in his own heart."
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