The New Presidential Interview

Jul 24, 2017 · 155 comments
alex d. (brazil)
How sad it must be to be a reporter and after having the chance to interview Mr. Obama having to listen to the incoherent ramblings of this narcissistic, ignorant man. Indeed, from class to crass.
toom (germany)
Trump is the Court Jester playing President.
Silicon Valley Matt (Palo Alto, CA)
The sympathy vote is a whole new take on this guy. He deserves none of it. On the contrary he plays these roles like Batman's Joker. Because there is no there there. An empty, vain man without qualities, an empty suit, a strawman. To treat his otherwise is an affront to every thinking American, and many non-thinks alike. Plumbing the depths that aren't there is not a good use of this interview time. You were played. Again.
Balthazar (Planet Earth)
He always chokes when he's face-to-face with an "enemy." Depend upon it, he'll wax vicious once the coast is clear.
Philip JW (Austin)
I fear that we are continuing to underestimate Mr. Trump.

Mr. Baker and his colleagues are terrific reporters, but as Mr. Baker himself concedes, they came away with so much stuff in the interview, they didn't know what to lead with. And, as Mr. Baker, observes, he thinks what Trump put on the record was quite intentional.

So the obvious question is why Trump is showering the media with so many "gifts."

The answer is to look at what has always motivated Trump and apparently always will: money, fame and power. Look to his model "strong leader", Mr. Putin, and Putin's kleptocracy.
While he is very skillfully deflecting our attention by his histrionics, is he pursuing all the same selfish goals that have always motivated him? I for one think he will say anything , no matter how seemingly outrageous, to divert our attention from his true goals and intentions.
J.Riv (Bronx, NY)
The people that voted this individual into office---Trump's base---must be scratching their heads in amazement and disgust, but I read that his base is still flourishing. Of course, for the most part, his support emanated from the less educated and less sophisticated masses and blue collar region. So these individuals, wittingly or unwittingly, will not comprehend the gravity of the situation that the country finds itself in. Someone once said that democracy could be messy. What an understatement!
Colin (Alabama)
I am not usually impressed by the Times, but the good humor and fairness of this account was impressionable.
Heather (Vine)
Access journalism gave us the Iraq War. Let's not repeat prior mistakes.
MsEllie (Baja Arizona)
Keep it up, Peter and Co.!
wmr (yardley, pa)
Finally, a humanizing article.
I feel sorry at times for POTUS. His personal life is a shambles; 3 failed marriages, at least 3 ethically challenged children (4 if you count Jared). Multiple failed companies, bankrupts, corrupt business practices, no true friends. His acquaintances tend to be people of his own ilk, narcissist braggarts with money but no values.
He is a disaster at his current job and he knows it. The self-doubt that we all have to some degree must be a tremendous weight on his very fragile ego.
Socrates reportedly said that "The unexamined life is not worth living", the examined life of DJT is no picnic either.
asd (CA)
wmr: Do not feel sorry for Trump. Feel sorry for our sorry state of affairs in this sorry country of ours.
Concerned Mother (New York, New York)
Nope. Sorry. POTUS is about the most unreflective person on the planet. He doesn't think he's failing. He doesn't know that he surrounds himself with sycophants and braggarts. He doesn't have that moral meter. So, while if you, WMR were Trump, you might feel these things. But he does not.

Perhaps direct your compassion to those who need it: the poor, the uninsured, transgender and gay people, people of color who now must defend their right to vote, women whose authority over their own bodies are being challenged--the millions of women around the world whose lives are now in jeopardy as we are no longer supporting women's health care around the world, and so on.
Raye Scott (San Diego)
Well said!!!
T Bud (Madison, WI)
Such a silly shallow man—our president.
gerold firl (san diego)
Fake president
James (Savannah)
The President of the United States as entertainer, as shocker, as headline maker, as irreverent media manipulator.

What isn't wrong with this picture?
rati mody (chicago)
Importantly, Trump is a failed human being who has succeeded in hoodwinking a lot of trusting people.
NY Coolbreez (Huntington)
If "But the conversation moves so quickly from one newsworthy topic to another that it is hard to challenge each assertion"
Then why give him the courtesy to allow him to go "off record"

Number one reason he is in office--YOU and your ilk.
Charlie (Indiana)
I agree, Coolbreeze. If the press had given just half as much coverage during the campaign to Sanders as they did with Trump, Sanders would be our president.
Disinterested Party (At Large)
If the trick to obtaining the truth, generally, is the element of surprise, then what does that say about the broad limits of carefully thought out positions on things? It would seem that this method lessens the effect of a protective mechanism, increases vulnerability for the exact reason that carefully thought out positions are not a part and parcel of the response to surprise, at least in an undisciplined person. The President is very disciplined, with special reference to the protective mechanism: everything revolves around him, he is the ultimate center of the political universe, the things which require careful diligent thought either matter exclusively to him as him, or not at all. It is the ignoring of substance which elicits surprise in return, the blissful "plowing ahead" is this exclusivity, without the caring diligence. It has to be the press which is "failing", not the President, from his point of view, and it most certainly has to be The President who is "failing" from the press' point of view. The struggle for dominance is like the gravitational pull in the Copernican revolution. It is almost like, or so I imagine, observing Luigi Lablache rehearsing before a performance, only in this it is not so much practice of scales as a monotonous "Me Me Me Me" which is elicited by not so much the power of the office, except in instances where fear responses are desired, as by propaganda which emanates therefrom, incessantly. That is corrupt.
Carl (Trumbull, CT)
See all the overturned papers on his desk... They are his PRIVATE BUSINESS PAPERS, not US presidential matters... Who does he think he is fooling...???
Michael F Tevlin (Portland Oregon)
President Trump is like crack cocaine for journalists. They can never seem to get enough. If Ronald Reagan was the "Great Communicator," Donald Trump is the "Great Manipulator."
Dieter Aichernig (Austria)
Whatever else he is, he is sick beyond repair. Don't dig for nuggets, it's all bullshit, poison bullshit.
davidmilne (vt)
idiots are relaxed. he is an idiot with a criminal persuasion. itrump has hit all the right notes. he is of minimal intelligence, he has too much money, and no control on his diminished mind and mouth. a trifecta !!! it time for americans to admit they hired the dunce.
James Panico (Tucson AZ)
Thanks for explaining what it is like to interview a narcissistic lunatic
JN (Atlanta)
I find it totally refreshing to have a president who holds nothing back. He may ultimately be no different than previous presidents who diplomatically held back on articulating every thought. It remains to be seen how this will play out in the long term but for now it makes me smile!
Raye Scott (San Diego)
I'm shocked you can categorize this president as "refreshing" - did you not read the article? Do you not understand this is the Leader of the Free World and he is incapable of a logical and reasonable thought process and that his narcissism is so overriding every other aspect of his personality that it becomes his entire persona? This man cares nothing for the people that were duped into voting for him. "Build a Wall" "Who's gonna pay for it?" were applause lines to rally the crowd. He admitted this himself in another rambling interview. He's not even smart or clever enough to hide his own manipulative tool chest. For that stupidity alone he should be impeached! But, not before we see his tax returns - I think that is where the truth lies.
Gini Illick (coopersburg, pa.)
Refreshing, you say. He holds nothing back. Except for the truth and his tax returns. He is a child whose vocabulary is monosyllabic using simple sentence structures. His job requires enormous knowledge and verbal restraint. He has no knowledge of history, the legal system, the Constitution and his words flow and stink like diarrhea. Refreshing? Wow!!
Samuel (New York)
It's not clear who's using whom. You argue that you're getting the POTUS to make news, but he's using your paper and its wide reach and prestige to promote lies, fakery, and give legitimacy to it. Corrections after the fact in a sidebar do not make up for giving him the stage to lie or toot his supposed knowledge as you do. You are complicit in this man's damage to our democracy.
gerold firl (san diego)
It can be argued that Hillary made a huge mistake by treating the voters like rational adults. Responsible citizens. People who took their duty as voters seriously, who considered the long-term welfare of the country before casting their ballot.

You claim that the lies and insanity of Trump should not be covered by the NYT. But as foolish as we are, I do think Americans deserve to have the facts about Trump and his minions. Ignoring him will not make him go away.
George DC (Washington DC)
One question you asked 3 times but each time he did not answer or even address in an almost unintelligible word salad -- what about the line in the e-mail to Junior that this was part of the Russian Government's support of Trump for President -- to me that was the most revealing of his evasions.
gerold firl (san diego)
Hey. American voters. Trump is trying to tell you something: don't elect an ignorant, dishonest, emotionally unstable con man as president!

Are you listening? Because there is another election coming next year. No matter how much Trump would like to cancel, it will happen. If ever there was a president who needed checks and balances, it's the Great Trumpkin.

Worst president ever. Almost unbelievably bad.
Jennifer (Chicago)
I missed the point of this commentary, with the exception of the comparisons which were a tease.

What was said after those about Trump is about as evident as the sun on a clear day. The real story was the compare/contrasting of the presidents. More on that would have made this a good read.
AJ (Midwest)
This incapsulates the difference between Presidents whose policies I have disliked like George W Bush and Trump. Bush wasn't a terribly smart guy but he felt no need to pretend to be. He was willing to work hard to rise to the job he'd been elected to. He wanted to do what he believed was in the best interest of the country. I didn't agree ( indeed strongly disagreeid) with his view of what that was the vast majority of the time but I didn't think he was only acting out of his own self interest. He certainly never made me think he was antagonizing our allies and emboldening our enemies on purpose. I truly disliked Bush but never thought he was insane. Trump appears insane. And lazy.
Eugene Gorrin (Union, NJ)
President Trump's responses in the interview were inarticulate and incoherent. He showed a lack of discipline and understanding of issues and topics.

Trump is not reflective, thoughtful and informed. He is not smart, logical and impressive.

Trump is impulsive, uninformed and irrational.

He is an ignoramus.
politics 995 (new york)
It comes with a disclaimer: Take your medication before trying to make sense of the dialogue. Even then, it won't help!! The emperor is paranoid.
manfred marcus (Bolivia)
Consider your interviews with the most vainglorious ignoramus in chief, a waste of time. If he is not talking about his prowess in staying above the law with his prodigious nonsense, he is going back to a past best left alone, where he tries to find scapegoats for his own vengeful, unscrupulous, incompetent cruelty in thrashing his promises (demagogic) as a candidate. If the press feels overwhelmed by Trump's 'pecking about', why not just bypass this liar in chief, and get the news, based on an alternative reality, from Fox Noise, the official propaganda outlet for Trump's misrule. Now, if you like cheap entertainment, away from pesky facts, he's your man.
Lore (Michigan)
Do you ever call him out on his lies when you interview him? As long as he can get away with lying to the press and dominate the front page of every paper which prints his lies (even if they are debunked in the text of the article) he will keep being outrageous and degrade the office of the President of the US. If the media would stop falling for his manipulation we would all be better off.
Karen (Los Angeles)
He is amoral...likes the attention he gets by saying and doing terrible things. We are going deeper into the rabbit hole with a man who is playing everyone as we wait for the next shoe to drop when he starts his firings. It is so depressing that it is difficult to keep writing or commenting or even talking with friends about him. The word "trump" is taboo....then I tell myself to continue to be an advocate for what is correct, call out
the outrageous, don't surrender.....
Dennis (A)
These interviews are useful and supportive of the theory that we have an anti intellectual, impetuous narcissist in the White House. But somehow he manages to escape accountability. Your editorial focuses on the headlines he makes, but I don't see him being challenged for undermining the independence of the AG's office. He's a bully who got the headlines he wanted from an adversarial paper. You guys are capable of much more, and I expect you will hold truth to power next time around and not allow him to steer the conversation.
John Richetti (Santa Fe, NM and New York, NY)
Peter Baker's complaint that President Obama was "professorial" in his interviews, speaking in paragraphs, is revealing. Baker actually prefers the rambling and incoherent Trump style because it provides headline material. There's something very wrong with this response. with Trump allowed, indeed encouraged, to ramble foolishly. Why didn't Baker and his colleague follow up, question and probe Trump's comments? The TIMES is enabling Trump, I fear, and becoming something like a tabloid paper.
SN (Philadelphia)
Utterly incoherent. Scarborough is right, dt knows nothing about anything.
RGV (Boston)
Scarborough is an idiot. If the president knows nothing, how did he build a multinational business worth billions? How did he take down 17 eastablished and successful politicians, including the "most qualified candidate for president in the country's history"
John Richetti (Santa Fe, NM and New York, NY)
Trump won the presidency with a lot of luck, by appealing to many voters through demagoguery, racism, nativism, crude nationalism of the most appalling sort. His business, if you care to look into it, is founded on fraud and manipulation. Only Trump could manage to fail in the casino business. He (and you) are the idiots. Joe Scarborough is a former Republican who has seen the light. You on the other hand are in utter darkness!
Barbara (Stl)
How? He inherited millions and stole, schemed and bullied to get the rest. He claimed bankruptcy 5 or so times..that's how.
RAYMOND (BKLYN)
Well, at least reporters aren't being charged yet with 'asymmetrical warfare'. Give it a few years, Trumpists will wait until the 2nd term before rounding up critical writers & sending them off to rehab camps for their own good & the sake of public order. Just watch.
Rea Tarr (Malone, NY)
I like to imagine the fun it would be if someone were to compile a huge list -- or do a powerpoint presentation -- of every single thing Trump has stated or tweeted since day one of his (forgive the word) administration.

Do it with This and That and Other columns so we can easily count the contradictions and the this-or-that items. Get good translations into all the languages we speak. Print out millions, trillions of copies so we can pass them on to our grandchildren.

Does anyone have this in the works yet?
Veena (Santa Clarita, CA)
Having read the interview, I was disappointed with the quality of the questions you reporters asked and the lack of follow through on your part when he gave you confusing or convoluted answers. Simple clarifications would have gotten him to speak more since he loves to hear himself talk. It is quite clear that what he wants is approval from the Times and Post writers. He is willing to sit down for interviews with you since he is hoping to get positive coverage from you. Given this advantage, ask probing questions and ask thorough follow up questions. Your questions and conduct during the interview made it look like you were after sensational headlines rather than asking him to give you specific and in depth thoughts on topics that were raised.
truth in advertising (vashon, wa)
How is the weather in Moscow today comrade troll?
Kay Johnson (Colorado)
What an unholy mess. Like interviewing someone in a madhouse.
The GOP stands responsible.
Frank (Kansas)
No the GOP is not responsible. Where were you when the Electoral College elected him? He is no more GOP than Bernie was Dem. The people of America elected him because he was the only choice that would not result in the real Oligarchy getting in office.
John Richetti (Santa Fe, NM and New York, NY)
An unbelievably obtuse and frighteningly ignorant comment from Frank in Kansas! The real Oligarchy is in fact in power now, with Trump's cabinet of plutocrats. Frank, you need to think carefully about what you're saying, although you're right to the extent that Trump is not really a Republican. He's much worse than that: an frightening demagogue, a buffoon who is dismantling this country.
Glen (Castro Valley, California)
Not one single member of the Republican Congress is calling him out. Only a few moderates along the edges even vote against his absurd legislation, and then only after protracted public hedging.

Sorry, he's yours, and you can't get away from him.
GEM (Dover, MA)
Interviewing Trump is an excellent opportunity to test whether or not he is just a stupid pathological narcissist, or there is something more there. I understand the awkwardness of telling the truth in his case, but as a public service doesn't the Times have an obligation to deeper factual analysis?
Joe Smith (Cleveland)
Yep. He's stupid alright. That's why he got beat so badly in the GOP primaries.
Red Aries (USA)
The Republican President, his family, Administration, and Congress are simply ignorant, incompetent, Neanderthals looking to satisfy their greed and ego.

They deserve the full and undivided attention of intelligent press coverage and Attorney Generals at every level. With a vigorous and thorough investigation, indictment, prosecution, and conviction by a true American Patriot they'll receive their just reward for their criminal misdeeds against the United States of America-a long and arduous jail sentence.

These types of individuals and their behaviors are not representative of America's values, and they must be made an example of such through public condemnation and criminal conviction.
Uzi (SC)
No doubt, Donald Trump is an agent of chaos. The US is a global superpower which requires a clearly thinking chief executive.

The question is: Can the system of checks and balances resist a President that attack friends and foes alike with the same ferocity? Trump's presidency is the American political version of Herzog's movie: A Man for Himself and God Against All.
tony b (sarasota)
He's a complete disgrace to this country. I can't wait to see the clown in an orange jumpsuit doing the perp walk...bring it on.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
Trump remains Vlad Putin's last best hope to cause the crackup of the USA.
David Henry (concord)
This your complete analysis? Invoke Putin then all thinking ends, right?
Steve Bolger (New York City)
Trump's incapacity to see how Putin plays him leaves no doubt that he's a babe in the woods without a clue.
Egeller (New Jersey)
This article tries to excuse the glaring gaps in this interview by saying he jumps from topic to topic. The reporters should be pinning him down and getting clarification when he says such provocative things. When he complained about the recusal, I would have loved to ask what he thought Sessions could be doing differently. That would truly be a headline.
PaulB (Cincinnati, Ohio)
As a one time journalist who interviewed many members of Congress and one President. I would say that Trump's premier ability in the public spotlight is using the news media as a tool.

Yes, indeed, Trump had several news nuggets to share, all of which the Times dutifully reported. But he is demeaning you into accepting his scattered and delusional view of the world because he knows you must report what he says.

He has the Times, the Post and other news organizations' White House reporters eating out of his hand. Thankfully, their investigative teams are not so easily manipulated.
Michael F Tevlin (Portland Oregon)
Agree
fast/furious (the new world)
Trump's insane. Really insane.

Last night he was ranting at a park full of teenage boys about the fake media & the healthcare bill. It's incredible to think the President is a man who can't manage to give a pleasant speech to a bunch of Boy Scouts. He didn't know how to do it. He didn't even know how to ask a speechwriter to put something together - because to him, this isn't important. So what if he's boring or inappropriate in front of thousands of kids - he doesn't
care. Imagine how Obama or George W. might have had some fun talking to the Boy Scout Jamboree. Not Trump.

Early this morning Trump tweeted 2x about investigating Hillary again & insulted Andrew McCabe, the F.B.I. director.

Does anyone think this looks normal? Or healthy?

Trump's not going to make it to the end of the Mueller investigation and impeachment. Trump is getting close to having a breakdown. He's going to have to resign. Howard Stern predicted this. He said being president would be very bad for Trump psychologically.

A friend who works for military intelligence says that for the last several months one of the primary things under discussion at his job is "What if he refuses to leave..?" Meaning what if we have to remove him from the White House against his will?

Our tax dollars at work.
Sonya (Seatt;e)
You hit the nail on the head. He is insane.
Nan (New Jersey)
Peter.....I'm surprised he agreed to talk to you in the first place! But, then....there's a method to his madness, I'm sure.
Cone,S (Bowie, MD)
Let me assure you, you are not "failing."
Snaggle Paws (Home of the Brave)
Reporters going way out of their way to spritz last week's burned down barn.

First, let's contrast his style with other Presidents, yeah now he's coming off as more normal just by association. Oh, the mood, lighten the fiery, and mellow the yellow. Handling papers on desk, yes, relaxed and upbeat. Got it. So we have unmasked the Trump that was there the whole time.

Meow what about last week's shenanigans? That was just a tad of frustration and a touch of shtick for me base. Come on back, boys, anytime and we'll pucker the Blarney a'gin.
United States Of Anxiety (Bay Area)
When I read the transcript, it reminded me of my scattered brain when I fail to take my ADHD medication - also combining traits of my best friends narcissistic husband. Confusing, and terrifying indeed.
Frank (Kansas)
And yet rather than celebrate what he has accomplished (I have said he is ADHD from the beginning) everyone tries to crucify him. Well done Dems no one with any mental issues should every do anything other than bag groceries? He is an amazing man who has overcome ADHD to be our President, good for you Don.
sssilberstein (nevada)
Huh? What's there to be celebrating, the fact that he might be inflicted with ADHD and won the presidency? Give my a break! Word to the wise, he might rightly be diagnosed with ADHD or not, but he sure as hell is a self-praising, self-serving, self-pitying, insulting, lying con who was a low-information voter who won the presidency. Great for him, bad for the country. And you want to celebrate?
fast/furious (the new world)
@Frank

Overcome ADHD? Did you read the interview? He can't put together a coherent sentence.

We're not discriminating against someone with "mental issues." We're trying to keep someone with untreated "mental issues" from destroying our country.
Donald J. Bluff (BLUFF TOWER)
"There was no need to knock him off the script. He happily answered every question we asked, even if it would ultimately overshadow the designated messages of the day."

To understand Trump, find a 13-year old boy whose parents taught him to brag about himself and bully others, then give him unlimited spending money and an army under his command. If that same boy slept through the American history class where it was mentioned that Lincoln was a Republican, then you've got a working model of Trump.
Steve Bolger (New York City)
Trump is still the barracks bully with a fat bankroll he became after his daddy sent him to a military style reform school.
[email protected] (Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn)
Maybe you could have asked about his broken promises with planned cuts on health care. Environmental policy? Draining the swamp with Goldman appointees?
Michael F Tevlin (Portland Oregon)
So agree. No questions about climate, nothing about the damage to U.S. clean tech businesses by withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement?
pneaman (New York City)
There is only one response to the endless lies and provocations coming from Trump and the others in his gang, SAYING IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. Otherwise, Frank Luntz's and herr Ribbentrop's practice of using endless, lockstep repetition of simple lies--even obvious ones like Kushner's carries the day.
JK (New York)
Interesting insights and what a diplomatic way to put them in, understandably.

I found Clinton and Lee Kwan Yew as the most fascinating speakers and interviewees among the world leaders I've had a chance to listen to. Both were brilliant and charismatic, particularly with their long televised speeches that usually tire me out. Check out their taped speeches.

Voters are not stupid: when a head of state is popular enough to be elected into office by a simple majority he or she is typically also highly qualified, intelligent, dignified, worthy of that important office.

Only with interference from a hostile power does a huge democracy like ours get one like the present WH occupant.

The antiquated electoral college did not help either.

Question: how do we correct this wrong and prevent it happening in the future here and in other countries?
Frank (Kansas)
If it were not for the Electoral College the states that feed and support America would not have a say and the welfare state of California would decide everything. You are not much of a patriot if you do not support the Electoral College, rather instead you would be in favor of Majority rules; can you even imagine the damage to our Democracy if that happened? Scares me.
Diane Schaefer (Portland, Oregon)
On a very early season of The Apprentice, I believe it was either the first or second, I came to truly understand Donald Trump. During an episode involving the sale of real estate, a brownstone, I believe, one team took advantage of the other through deceit. Trump praised the deceitful winning team and gently admonished the losing team for lacking that killer instinct.

I suppose there are many successful titans of industry with that killer instinct. And I'm sure it serves them well in their respective industries. But I never would have wished any of them to be the leader of our country.

Trump is a brilliant tactician when it comes to playing people as if they're pawns on a chessboard. Sadly, the press corps who cover him, are part of his grand scheme, just pieces on the board. The very fact that every single one of his inane tweets is dissected and interpreted ad nauseum is enough to support my theory that the press is constantly being played by Trump.

So with all due respect to the great journalists at the New York Times who conducted this interview, I'd much prefer their talents be spent on uncovering all the layers of dirt surrounding this childlike malevolent man and his presidency, rather than on what he chirps or tweets on any given day. And I hope one or more of those journalists digs long enough and deep enough to uncover all the dirt in the kingdom to knock Donald down from his throne, and maybe even garner them a Pulitzer in the process!
Michael F Tevlin (Portland Oregon)
Right on!
Jack (Palo Alto, California)
Ah, yes, the "failing New York Times." Funny how he keeps reading your paper!
Jack (Palo Alto, California)
You have a really hard job here. You have to keep up with this raving maniac, but at the same time keep headlines aimed at what is important. Dr. Krugman's recent essay on why he keeps after the Health Care legislation is an excellent example of good decision making in your editorial staff. Yes, the Russia investigation is important, but the professional media should keep focused on the Obamacare repeal disaster. The DOJ investigation will deal with the Russia situation, and, anyway, Congress is unlikely to impeach Trump unless there is a smoking Cannon, so best keep to Obamacare, where we can make a difference. Excellent!
Marc Castle (New York City)
You go in to interview a complete slobbering imbecile and pathological liar, who stupidly became the president. Donald Trump, any way you paint him, he's a pig. I apologize to real pigs, noble animals with a brain, unlike Donald Trump.
JR (San Francisco)
Peter -- We're being told ad-nauseam that Trump has upended all norms associated with the Office of POTUS. And he certainly has. Why then do you believe that you're duty bound to cover this individual as you've covered past Presidents? By applying standard journalism rules to this Administration, you're out of step. Create new rules. Start by sending your interns to press briefings or to record the incoherent ramblings from the Oval Office. Deploy your manpower for essential investigative reporting. Stop wasting time on this absurd Reality Show. Your parting shot reads like a puppet on a string. You're being used.
TheraP (Midwest)
Dear Reporters, I now have so much respect for your jobs!

Not only are you doing all of us an invaluable service. But truly I've concluded I could never do your job. How can you keep a straight face sometimes? How can you restrain your frustration or annoyance or the thought that perhaps you should call the men in white coats - right this very minute?

I just want you to know you're appreciated. It was a joy to get a sense of your experience being in the room with this man. So glad it was you - and not me!
David (Maryland)
Trump is like many people--they know a little about something, but they mistakenly believe they know everything about everything. Most such people learn, long before they are 71 years old, that their competence is actually quite limited. Trump has accumulated enough ill-gotten gains and surrounded himself with enough syncophants that he believes he is the Master of the Universe. Despite all the bankruptcies and other failures, anyone who disagrees is criticized as "Fake News."

Mike Pence clearly adores Trump and will consider him an admirable role model--regardless of how ugly the impeachment shows Trump to be. Pence has not exhibited good judgment or the ability to use evidence competently. Instead, he believes totally in various myths and dogmas--which is no better than Trump's pathologies. However, there will be a patina of rationality (compared to Trump), which will make him more dangerous. Pruitt, Price, Mulvaney, DeVos, and the other incompetents and right-wing hacks will still be around, and Pence will engage more constructively with the far-right fringe in Congress. We'll have gained little or nothing until the Republicans are utterly discredited and defeated.
Frank (Kansas)
Which is why you Trump haters (and by definition haters of every person who voted for him), are so self defeating that you will Overthrow a duly elected President to enable a right wing evangelical animal like Pence. Y'all need to think things through a bit. SUPPORT TRUMP, beat him in 2020.
CMK (Honolulu)
Don't bother with any analysis. Just give it to us verbatim. I think your readers can discern grift from shinola. It makes no sense to analyze anything Bozo says, the thought is here, hanging in the air, then just as suddenly it's gone, evaporating and resolving into the next little mindless babble.
E Roach (Los Angeles)
Thanks to all three of you for your fine reporting and professionalism, especially given your source.
I just ask that you stay with us and please don't take any buyouts!
Dan Forstner (Bloomington, MN)
Peter, you wrote that "it is hard to challenge each assertion."

I did not see any assertions challenged. Maybe in the off-the-record parts? With all due respect, I encourage you, Schmitt, and Haberman to reflect on how you approached this interview. You are being commended for generating news, but a formal interview should be more than Trump verbal tweeting without character limits. His description of health care, to give one example, was outlandish, and it was met without challenge. Why not ask him to square the health care he promised with the legislation he now supports?

His response to pointed questions might end up being less newsworthy than his unfiltered verbal stream, but it's the responsibility of the free press to ask the tough questions. Anything less is demoralizing for readers such as myself.
NIck (Amsterdam)
" His precision can be suspect".

That expression qualifies as the greatest understatement in recorded history.

Or, perhaps, the greatest euphemism in recorded history. Kind of like saying, "The surface of the sun is a bit warm."
David Henry (concord)
Why listen to a mad man?
Michael (Arequipa, Peru)
In describing a man like Trump, my father would have simply said ...

'Couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were written on the heel.
Nasty Man aka Gregory, an ORPi (old rural person) (Boulder Creek, Calif.)
Give hima break; One needs to be literate for your fathers proposal.
Nancy (Texas)
Thank God we have a Congress to keep us from the most dangerous directives Trmp concocts.
JasonWolfeLaw (LA)
Why do you allow Presidents to make 'off the record' comments in an interview? Is your access so valuable that you will let President's lie and conceal at will during the interview? What is the point of you asking questions if the public doesn't get to the know the answers? This cult of access hurts the Republic.
Sheila C. (California)
I realize the media's job is to inform the public and challenge the status quo. But with so many insults thrown at your organization, as well as every other news outlet that isn't synchophantic in their praise of him, I think you should just ignore him. Nothing gets him angrier than being made irrelevant and ignored.
Ron Foster (Utica, NY)
It's striking given his 58% disapproval rating that President Trump's worst enemy is still himself. At 70 or 71 he's so undisciplined and uncontrollable that no one hurts him or his interests more than himself. I don't know how long he will be in office but it's obvious his agenda is dead. The parade of staffers leaving will continue; the tweets will continue; the self-damage will continue. May we live in interesting times.
Jay Buoy (Perth W.A)
Is it ethical to take advantage of a persons mental incapacity?
Steve (Hawaii)
"But he said he would talk with us again, even though we were from the “failing New York Times.”" ....And presumably you three would talk with him again, even though he's from the failing U.S. presidency. At some point in his previous career Trump realized he could give up developing real estate and simply focus on manipulating the press in order to stoke his brand, by any means good or bad that drew attention to the five letters of his last name which he could then lease by the square inch for display on the tops of buildings. Using the same vehicle today he's become a firestarter. And there are simply too many fires to put out at any given time. There are not enough pundits, Peter Bakers, news channels and eyes clapped on him to keep the country out of peril. Watch out, America.
siyque (Los Angeles, CA)
You really hit the nail on the head. He is a news machine and having to choose one important headline seems like a daunting task. This is the moment of truth for media outlets. Who can ignore the trivial and emphazise what's truly relevant? Unfortunately, the decision may cost readers and circulation. Hey my 10-year-old couldn't get enough of the "covfefe" coverage.
lftash (NY)
Why is #45 extremely sensitive and unhappy when the subject of Income Tax Returns is mentioned? What is being hidden?
Tumbleweed (Eastern Washington)
One conclusion an observer can glean from interviews with President Trump is that we are slipping into an idiocracy or an absolute monarchy; maybe an absolute idiocracy is the best descriptor.
Nancy fleming (Shaker Heights ohio)
To an employed reporter or journalist Trump is a gold mine of material .
To me he continues to be a leach on the people of our country.He gives nothing and takes everything that's of real value .The sooner he's impeached or put in prison the better we'll all be,before he finds a way to suppress all our votes.
MRC (Brooklyn, NY)
I am always shocked at how incoherent he sounds when you read actual transcripts. A "wide-ranging" interview seems to be one that strings together a bunch of sound bites on unconnected topics. I think the press is weirdly deferential and actually prop him up by giving his quotes a context and make him sound more thoughtful. I think coverage is getting better and the lies are being called out more consistently, but this was a depressing piece.
Karianne (Washington, DC)
You interviewed a serial liar with ADHD, who toxifies the public perception of journalists as "fake media" (if you're fake, why is bothering to talk to you?) and you somehow manage to write an account that presents him as a forthcoming, jovial friend of the NYT. In fact, you sound agog, if not awestruck, at being his chosen knock-'em-off=balance target of the day. The transcript of his remarks are yet another indication that he's a depth-less dope. Does the NYT really want to come across as charmed and chummy with this man?
L Harrison (Volente, TX)
If NYT is fake news, why does he continue to give NYT interviews? The only thing transparent about DJT is use of MSM when it suits him and to lie with impunity - he is the definition of fake news.
Christopher Dessert (Seattle)
This is an interview with someone who quite clearly doesn't belong in the office in which he is currently in. Of course, it'll be unlike any interview done by clearly qualified individuals.
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
I really want you to interview Trump voters. In depth, anonymously.
Especially females. I wish to know my betrayers, intimately.
Rea Tarr (Malone, NY)
Yes, Ms. Dalmation! I, too, want to know what the Trumpettes say about their votes. What could have been their reasoning? How do they like things now?

Might they ever vote for a woman? (Or, should we ask, would their husbands allow them to do that?)
M. Donnelly (Virginia)
The undisciplined mind provides great fodder for an interview but runs the great risk of veering the nation dangerously off course. One more circumspect with the press also would likely be one who is skeptical of international strong men. I'll take measured caution over phony candor any day.
Nathan (Denver)
Could you possibly link to the other interviews for comparison?
Phyliss Dalmatian (Wichita, Kansas)
Interviewing Trump is about as informative and useful as interviewing my Dogs. And probably much less pleasant.
NS (Massachusetts)
I beg to differ. I get much more,from each of my six dogs,than I have ever heard from Mr Trump. And my dogs do not lie.
Gail (Louisville, CO)
He really is quite the communicator, just not to the audiences presidents have usually targeted. His use of simple diction, finite answers for complex problems and catchy slogans- all accompanied with blatant falsehoods, have made him the perfect candidate to communicate with an uneducated yet very opinionated group of people. His supporters don't want to hear about the minute details of health coverage, or the statical analyses of global climate data, they prefer simple and directive idiomatic statements that give them hope and the belief that everything is under control. If only he could sacrifice his ego enough to admit that he's not an expert on everything, nor can he be. If he realized, like other presidents, that scientists are more equipped to handle global climate change, doctors, lawyers, and insurance experts are more qualified to handle health care, and that the CIA and FBI are more qualified to discuss international cyberterrorism, maybe we'd get somewhere. Sadly, I don't see him conceding his superflous self confidence to make way for actuall experts anytime soon. #Resist
GingerB (Mid-Atlantic)
Be careful referring to people as un-educated just because they aren't interested in the wonky details of policy. he ran against winks for a reason, and in the end he won.
MPH (New Rochelle, NY)
I can tolerate all that is outlined here except the reliance on false information. How can anyone expect to govern or do anything successfully if they haven't mastered, or choose to ignore, hard facts?
Citizen (RI)
I imagine that interviewing the Clown would be a lot like inviting a feral animal into your home for a meal. While it gives some satisfaction, at some point you're going to regret your decision and wish the thing would just go back to the woods from where it came.
sparkala (Dallas, Texas)
Thank you, Citizen. I'm repeating your comment as soon as I finish this reply.
It's a witty and sadly accurate portrayal of our president. What the hell has happened to our country?
Fletcher Lokey (New Hampshire)
At some point I wish you guys would ask Trump outright - "Mr. President, could you give us your definition of fake news?"

He throws that term around so loosely, but if called to state clearly what he thinks he's saying, it would be interesting
Genesis (USA)
The media, was his friend for years, when they were providing free news coverage, prior to his winning. Now, he works to discredit the media, when they report the truth.
Deflect
Discredit
Distract
Disregard for the truth
Repeat
trumps M.O.
BK (Berkshires)
Really, why bother?
Edelson-eubanks (<br/>)
How much of what DJT says, on or off the record, is meant to deflect and distract? How much is meant to keep his base in its frothed-up nearly rabid anti-liberal state? For your consideration: the current character that is Pres. DJT is a carefully sculpted 3D image hiding what or whomever he is underneath that thin orange skin.

That the news media, driven by the need to keep readership and viewership at least at current levels, publishes every little presidential grunt and hiccup by this president pushes aside other equally if not more important current issues. Other than national newspapers (e.g., NYT, TWP), Reuters, CSPAN, national, the PBS Newshour, and few others, the President's cabinet and other appointees and any conflicts of interest that they might harbor, has been accorded fleeting attention. For the most part, his appointees have been tantamount to appointing the coyote to guard the hen house. I think these presidential distractions have been planned by the GOP so far as they keep the media busy while other equally if not more serious political moves are being perpetrated.
chucksteaks (new york,ny)
i have a couple of orange sunshine barrels left; do you want 1?
ck (chicago)
It's not fair to say the NYT does not cover the more substantive news out of the administration or Washington in general. My guess is that what you are looking at on the NYT website is being influenced by what are the hot articles because those are pushed up front and center. "Most viewed" and so forth.

If you disregard what is being shoved at you and approach the paper as you would have done a print paper and go to the business section or the science section or the international section you will find the substantive news of the day. The upper banner and "most read" is often filled with idle fluff. People love it. If they didn't I'm sure the paper would be just fine skipping Maureen Dowd, for example.

Just sticking up for the papers and asking more from the readers. Nothing personal.
Ed (Old Field, NY)
What distinguished interviews of Obama from past Presidents was that while he generally spoke as himself from his own point of view, he would at times speak as if an observer of himself (perhaps owing to his literary background). He was commended for his self-awareness and ability—or attempt, at least—to see things from the points of view of others, even as if a student of history in the future.
Sarah (California)
How I wish I could vote for him again.
chucksteaks (new york,ny)
there has not been a prez since i was born,1947; other then Truman,that has spoken the truth ABOUT ANYTHING!
Paul M (Vancouver Canada)
Here's a question for the NYTimes. Why is anything the president says to a reporter "off the record"? It seems to me that if you want something to be kept out of the papers, you shouldn't talk the papers.
Bucketomeat (The Zone)
It helps maintain the glitz and cheap glamor that so strokes tRump's hungry ego.
Joseph Ostapiuk (New York)
As a journalist, I find it fascinating to read of the different nuances of presidents that the New York Times has dealt with in the past, but there is undoubtedly something upsetting about the overarching message presented in this article.

The writers at the Times, in my regard, are some of the best on the planet, and I can feel the same tendency that they must feel to see a news worthy statement every time the President speaks, but it must be frustrating to be there, in the Oval Office, at the height of the journalistic world, to only speak to a man that avoids reason, fact and evidence like the plague. His statements may be worth a news headline, but I truly feel for the individual who has to resist the urge to plainly point out inconsistencies and incorrect statements as they're spoken.

Mixing up details about a letter written by former F.B.I. director James B. Comey; stating individuals pay $12 a year for health insurance; commenting on a story that simply annoyed him, and misconstruing the details of the story - these are exhausting ramblings that leave me, as Mark Twain said, unsure whether to laugh or cry.
Astrochimp (Seattle)
I gather that there's a clear difference between the media-attacking public message, and Trump in private, even "on the record:" He can be amiable in private. However, the incompetence and disregard for how our government works comes through just as well as in public.
redmist (suffern,ny)
I appreciate your efforts to have a measured and balanced response to an interview with the leader of our country. Regrettably the fact is you had an an interview with someone who is intellectually and ethically bankrupt. Anything uttered by this abomination is worse than worthless.
How you kept from laughing in his face is a credit to your professionalism.
Martin Fallon (Naples, Florida)
The country's most popular news source is a conservative, propaganda vehicle that is neither measured nor balanced. There may be no balanced recourse except civil litigation, because a smoke and mirrors president hides his profound assault on the playing field the majority must occupy.
Steven of the Rockies (Steamboat springs, CO)
President Trump generates news by being a showboat.

Our Department of Justice has no clue how to urge the President he would benefit from some medical help.

Watching the herds of legal experts interacting with an individual struggling with mental health issues, is not newsworthy. It is sad.
Dean Gerstein (California)
Appropriate that the failing President is interviewed by the failing NYT. Only one is actually failing, though.
Debbie Lefkowitz (San Francisco)
Yup the under investigation, can't pass any legislation, loves Putin more than America tweeter in chief.
Gene (Canada)
Trump epitomizes the worst of America. The greed, the racism, the callousness. Can't wait for him to be swept aside.
Citixen (NYC)
Really, Peter? After calling your publication 'failing', you're available 'any time' presumably for further insults? Maybe you, and the rest of the press, need to start using the word 'No'. Observe, but don't engage.
D Bradway (Oregon)
I'm reminded of an old saying from my days in graduate school: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull***t.
GRJ (Co)
Thanks for reminding me of the saying; I had forgotten the first part and always got it wrong, until now!
Ellen (Minnesota)
"But the conversation moves so quickly from one newsworthy topic to another that it is hard to challenge each assertion."

This is why he's president and it's also why his followers and supporters are so adamantly attached to him. He maintains control of the narrative at all times and the poor hapless, knowledgable reporters have no choice but to follow along. His most ardent supporters think he is their savior because he gave voice to their deepest prejudices, resentments, ignorance and bitterness and turned it into the most potent weapon against the stability of a democratic government the world has ever seen. He nurtured, watered, fertilized, and hybridized the seed the right-wing and alt-right media planted so that now we have the equivalent of an uncontrolled invasive species at the core of our government, with a Republican Congress and 63 million Americans in collusion to allow it to spread, threatening the very foundation a democracy must be built on--truth. Trump has managed to get people to believe lies with rapid ferocity and reject the truth with contempt and disdain. And this is how he did it. And he didn't need help from the Russians to do so. All Putin did was recognize and exploit an opportunity to help Trump undermine the stability of American democracy, but I suspect Putin is in awe of Trump's rise and flummoxed that nothing (so far?) seems to be able to take him down.
EW (Glen Cove, NY)
The "galloping gish" is a well known debate tactic where you continuously make false statements that take a lot of time and effort to disprove.
Philip (South Orange)
Excellent analysis; sad reality
ben Avraham, Moshe Reuven (Haifa)
Interviewing Trump is a waste of time.
Ian (SF CA)
"His precision can be suspect" can now be added to the myriad synonyms for "He is a serial liar".
Citizen (RI)
In addition to "serial" you may add "inveterate," "consummate," "compulsive," "shameless," and "dependable."
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He is not only unable to tell the truth, he is also incapable of discerning it.
Susanne (New England)
Thank you. I wanted to help him with editing this paragraph to make it more succinct and accurate -- "He lies to us constantly and we don't have the guts to challenge him on it."
ecc77sd (San Diego, CA)
This reminds me of how a German friend of a friend referred to our SLIC (serial liar in chief), BLOTUS (biggest liar...)
Sorka (Atlanta GA)
Trump thinks that when he is talking off the cuff to NYT reporters, it's like he is still blabbing away with Howard Stern and Robin Quivers on the radio show. He is throwing the U.S. Attorney General under the bus, basically needling him to resign. He is accusing the former FBI Director, whom he fired, of trying to blackmail him. All of his comments are on tape! It just boggles the mind.
Technic Ally (Toronto)
So, there is good news, and bad news.

The flailing Donald Trump will speak to you again.
GIsber (Hutto, TX)
I love it that now we see Bush as so normal - good for all of us!

TRUMP has trumped everything that is normal. I am shocked that he gave you an interview.

His meds must have been taken that day. <<< I hope that he reads this!
fast/furious (the new world)
Trump makes George W. look like Churchill.