I ride the Green Line in Chicago to work every day. It is everything Rahm says it is - reliable, convenient, and easy. Our pension system, on the other hand, is in shambles.
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Would the NYT please admit the headline was not written by Rahm? When I first saw it, I knew there was no way he would have described his essay this way.
The trains may run on time but the release of videos of police shootings of blacks run late. Very late.
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Off the charts subway system and off the charts murder rate. Keep up the good work Rahm.
How about an accounting of how much TIF money there is and where it is going to / where it went to.
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I am not particularly familiar with the "L", but what the mayor says about investing in maintenance and upkeep is what I have said here before. He is an unusual politician to recognize that. Most just want to put their name on something "new" (7 extension or 2nd Ave Line). He is also correct that having the control closer to the riding public makes it more responsive. I have read to no end the back and forth between Cuomo and DeBlasio. "When everyone is in charge, no one is in charge".
Congratulations Rahm, you have joined a famous Italian Dictator who also bragged about how he made the trains run on time.
Pay no attention to Chicago's 751 murders last year or the 318 murders and 1800 people shot so far this year. That is one Chicago person shot every 2 hours.
The important thing is the trains run on time and all the middle class people at the top of these comments sections think that is a wonderful thing.
Priorities.
Pay no attention to Chicago's 751 murders last year or the 318 murders and 1800 people shot so far this year. That is one Chicago person shot every 2 hours.
The important thing is the trains run on time and all the middle class people at the top of these comments sections think that is a wonderful thing.
Priorities.
on time and in good condition. BUT, it's easier for a kid to get shot in Chicago than in New York.
sort of like JP Morgan said. If you can't afford the upkeep, don't buy the yacht -- or a Transit System.
President Trump, Where's the massive Infrastructure fix
sort of like JP Morgan said. If you can't afford the upkeep, don't buy the yacht -- or a Transit System.
President Trump, Where's the massive Infrastructure fix
In other related news, violent crime is endemic in Chicago and the city is about to go bankrupt. Junk bond city! Well done Rahm.
Rahm Emanuel is considered to be one of the worst Mayors in the history of Chicago and he is going to give New Yorkers advice? Give me a break.
The only thing I would agree is to allow NYC government to operate the MTA.
The only thing I would agree is to allow NYC government to operate the MTA.
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Awesome, so one out of 1,000 things the Chicago politicians control actually works correctly. Amazing.....
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By June 30, there were 1,703 shooting victims in Chicago this year and 320 homicides, according to police stats.
In New York, 127 people have been murdered in 2017 and 434 were shot, according to the NYPD.
I'd rather be late to work.
In New York, 127 people have been murdered in 2017 and 434 were shot, according to the NYPD.
I'd rather be late to work.
What Emanuel isn't tooting his horn about is that it takes more time for a freight train to get across Chicago than it does to travel from Seattle to Chicago.
It doesn't affect me, or nearly all readers here, whether someone in Chicago commuting to work has to leave home 15 minutes earlier to make it on time, but it does affect many millions of Americans how long it takes for a freight train to get across the Chicago bottleneck.
No, Emanuel isn't talking about that disgrace.
It doesn't affect me, or nearly all readers here, whether someone in Chicago commuting to work has to leave home 15 minutes earlier to make it on time, but it does affect many millions of Americans how long it takes for a freight train to get across the Chicago bottleneck.
No, Emanuel isn't talking about that disgrace.
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In all the comments, I failed to see that Chicago is mentioned as a Sanctuary city. In this political environment, does anyone think that Trump will allow any new federal infrastructure money to flow into those cities? I think not...
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It's great that the L is improved, but it doesn't serve substantial portions of Chicago. That's no small shortcoming.
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I wonder if the issue is that the accessibility of the elevated rail system makes it more affordable and faster to lay new rails, switches etc.
NYC rebuilt large sections of the elevated train system in Brooklyn and Queens relatively quickly.
Perhaps it is time to think about rebuilding the 3rd ave EL.
NYC rebuilt large sections of the elevated train system in Brooklyn and Queens relatively quickly.
Perhaps it is time to think about rebuilding the 3rd ave EL.
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Great ideas on how to actually manage a system properly, bad idea on how to fund it. I don't want any fuel taxes going to mass transit until the federal interstate system is in good repair. Those that use and benefit from it should pay, not everyone across the country. And you can properly update and modernize a system and serve more area, you just need decent management and money. NYC has stupidly allowed their system to be obsolete, and now they will pay. I bet they will have their hands out for federal funds, I hope they get slapped not filled.
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You'd benefit indirectly from your taxes going to public transit, if it means there are fewer drivers on the roads you drive.
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Ummm.... NYC residents subsidize you in Tennessee. There would be plenty of money if we didn't. You can check the stats yourself.
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Rahms next stop will be the White House. Aggressive, smart with a lot of common sense.
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Apparently you were asleep the last 8 years.
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I just yesterday read about $9,000,000,000 that is miss used from the funding to provide obamaphones to people.
Maybe Chicago could get its hands on those funds.
I cannot think of a single more pressing issue in Chicago outside of punctual trains.
Maybe Chicago could get its hands on those funds.
I cannot think of a single more pressing issue in Chicago outside of punctual trains.
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Umm. I think I will take the fewer murders in NYC. is this man so tone deaf as to promote Chicago?
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No secret.
There is no more powerful force than African American women who are mad
because they can't get to work.
The Democratic machine has lived to regret it more than once.
There is no more powerful force than African American women who are mad
because they can't get to work.
The Democratic machine has lived to regret it more than once.
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Rahm Emanuel would love to have Donald Trump's approval rating.
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And in other news... how are you treating your teachers these days? Still making their lives miserable? If you run your city like you run your schools, heaven help the citizens of Chicago.
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We don't use the nickname "L" we say "EL" why didn't you ask someone?
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The murders are like clock work too.
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The Chicago mob does higher quality work than the NYC mob.
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Rahmbo: "I keep the trains running on time, just like Mussolini! Now give me a bunch of taxpayer money!!! What was that? Shootings?? Insanely irresponsible fiscal policy? Nothing to see here, move on."
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For all of you calling Chicago a "war zone," shame on you for your mindless regurgitation of Trumpist narratives. Anyone that would say such nonsense has clearly never been to Chicago. It wasn't too long ago that NYC saw well over 1,000 murders a year, and your ad nitwits were glossing it over with Times Square and "I Love NY" tshirts. What a joke.
This piece was about trains, people.
This piece was about trains, people.
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Mussolini also bragged about the trains running on time!!!!!!
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"But even though we’re doing our best, Chicago — like every municipal transit authority — needs federal support."
Oh what a pity. He was doing so well before he wrote that. No, no no and no. Not a dime from the Feds for local stuff.
Oh what a pity. He was doing so well before he wrote that. No, no no and no. Not a dime from the Feds for local stuff.
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Ask one million people what is the first word that pops into their head when they hear the word "Chicago".
Betcha it aint trains.
Ask the same people for the second word and I'll betcha it still aint trains.
With an astonishingly high murder rate annually it is odd to see the Mayor applauding himself over trains running on time.
To a dull, ordinary man like myself it is just insane.
What do people deserve more, transportation punctuality or life ?
Betcha it aint trains.
Ask the same people for the second word and I'll betcha it still aint trains.
With an astonishingly high murder rate annually it is odd to see the Mayor applauding himself over trains running on time.
To a dull, ordinary man like myself it is just insane.
What do people deserve more, transportation punctuality or life ?
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Look, compared to the number of people who live in Chicago proportion to the number of actual murders and it's still one of the safest cities in the US. The crime here is concentrated in pockets that are on the far south side and west side. According to FBI statistics Chicago isn't even on the top 20 of most dangerous cities. St Louis is. The neighborhoods where the violence occur is all gang related in poverty-stricken areas that are so far away that it might as well be a different city. I know Chicago gets a bad rap, but still not sure why. The North Side is booming with dozens of skyscrapers going up all over the place, river walk is complete, the West Loop has tons of new restaurants, wineries, and craft beer halls, and the South Loop has gentrified so much its like a whole new neighborhood. Best of all it's a big city where you can actually afford to make a living. The transportation still pales in comparison to what I've taken in Europe and Asia, but for a US city it's been very reliable since reconstruction ended a few years ago.
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Never mind the skyrocketing murder rate, the bankrupt schools systems and the corrupt administration = the transit is moderately better than NYC!
The fact you're trying to brag about the one aspect of the city that isn't obviously-failing is absurd and contempt-worthy. It reveals that the mayor is more concerned with back-patting himself than actually solving many of his city's more-pressing issues.
The tone-deaf Mussolini-reference is just icing on the cake.
The fact you're trying to brag about the one aspect of the city that isn't obviously-failing is absurd and contempt-worthy. It reveals that the mayor is more concerned with back-patting himself than actually solving many of his city's more-pressing issues.
The tone-deaf Mussolini-reference is just icing on the cake.
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"Our management structure works." Good for you, Mayor Rahm, you make a forceful point.
I wince when I hear management edicts from "above," like the one from the NY Governor that the 2d Ave subway absolutely needs to start on a such-and-such set deadline. Those type "strongman" management pronouncements, a fortiori when the strongman knows less than nothing about his subject matter, have hidden, meaningful and long-term negative impacts on a business and the people running the business. Pick decent managers and let them do their thing. Sounds easy...except to a strongman who thinks he knows better than competent managers.
I wince when I hear management edicts from "above," like the one from the NY Governor that the 2d Ave subway absolutely needs to start on a such-and-such set deadline. Those type "strongman" management pronouncements, a fortiori when the strongman knows less than nothing about his subject matter, have hidden, meaningful and long-term negative impacts on a business and the people running the business. Pick decent managers and let them do their thing. Sounds easy...except to a strongman who thinks he knows better than competent managers.
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When I travel to Europe, friends are always asking me if it's safe to go. My answer: it's no more dangerous than riding Washington, D.C.'s unreliable and hazardous Metro.
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So did Mussolini. You could ask any Italian, my mother's Italian family from Naples to Chicago for a generation to LA. It's just not enough for this Mayor whose unlimited ambition rivals his incompetence and inability accomplish something positive or in some way improve the city of Chicago. If he had any sense, pride, shame, or love for Chicago he would resign before the city becomes an embarrassment to the future Obama Library. Instead all he has is self pity for his failure and consideration only for himself. He shuts himself off, arrogantly avoids the public and city council and insults and demeans and denigrates local leaders who tried to be his allies and work with him. He as for what 5 years now enabled the most violence ridden hostile Police Department in the nation without any effective attempt at reform, led or joined what should be considered criminal obstruction of justice trying to cover up and hide investigative documentation for the sake of his pitiful desperate and undeserved reelection and now refuses to sign the monitoring of the negotiated settlement agreement which is the ONLY method to ensure that the reforms occur. Wracked by appalling record levels of violence and murder, he has failed to lead or introduce any of the measures that most cities not limited to LA and NYC started years ago and are now routine to reduce violence and increase attendance and graduation rates among youth. Congratulations Mussolini has a peer. Now leave.
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This is true. New York City can learn from Chicago train system. They are pretty good, and they are much better maintained though they don't look very attractive. There is also a proud working class tradition in Chicago that treats the train as "part of life" and "necessary good". Even rich people consider it a privilege to travel by train and have their kids go by train. There is a joke in Chicago, "If your rich dad tells you to take the car...then he ain't a Chicagoan and he ain't really rich!"
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This sounds like a bit of chest thumping from someone perhaps considering a run for the White House. Rahm Emanuel didn't inherit a system already past the breaking point. It's a lot easier to keep something running smoothly when it's been relatively well maintained and not the subject of neglect and always trying to catch up when you're far behind. Also I don't think Chicago had the surge in ridership that NYC has had to deal with.
A little chest thumping never hurt when one is doing something right. Now could the mayor please do something about those murder rates? You've been in office long enough, when you take credit for exhibit A you also must own the blame for exhibit B.
A little chest thumping never hurt when one is doing something right. Now could the mayor please do something about those murder rates? You've been in office long enough, when you take credit for exhibit A you also must own the blame for exhibit B.
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Chicago is an incredibly well run city. The transit systems, water authority, streets and sanitation, all run mostly without a hitch. There are never giant piles of trash along the streets, and you can take a $200 train from downtown to either airport ( which you STILL can't do in New York) Infrastructure ain't sexy, and it doesn't get your name on any brass plaques, but it provides good, middle class jobs, and gives seniors, the disabled, and those who struggle financially freedom to live in the city as a full person. Yay!! Chicago.
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One summer back in the 1970s my agency had a contract with the NYSE. We stayed uptown in a hotel and took the subway down to work. What amazed me at the time was how uncomfortably hot it was down in the subway. I thought, "underground it should be cooler, right?" Never did get a good explanation.
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There is an old trial lawyers’ saying “When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on you side, pound the table. This is the equivalent of pounding on the table. Under his leadership: financially, the city is in ruins; the city is hemorrhaging population and jobs and; the rising violent crime rate is a disgrace. Mayor Emanuel is responsible for all of this and yet he wants to talk about the transit system!!!! I suppose if I were him I would want to talk about anything other than his failed administration and policies.
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It is unseemly to brag about the trains when your murder rate is so high.
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Mayor Emanuel knows how to prioritize and spend money wisely. Governor Cuomo does not; according to a recent Village Voice article the Governor moved money that was specifically earmarket for mass transit and put the money into road projects. I wonder if any laws were broken in doing so.
I would bet that the Chicago system does not have "Showtime" dancers swinging from the hand rails, conga players rappers and candy sellers roaming the system, homeless people living, eating, urinating and defecating in the stations and leaving all manner of trash everywhere. People selling cooked food, passengers with portable sound systems blasting music, people eating on the trains and leaving their garbage behind?
Dear Governor: The dumb courtesy campaign aimed at the most noxious and contemptible riders is a failure. The quality of the ride is atrocious and the stations and trains are an overflow of rancid street culture from the most inconsiderate and obnoxious passengers who do not think the courtesy campaign applies to them. Try enforcing the system rules instead. Relentlessly.
A 21st century transit system should not be a toxic hellhole one has to suffer in while awaiting the next inevitable breakdown or delay.
Put the money back into transit where it belongs. Last week we all read that we have to wait til next year to put billions more into the system. What?? Put the money back where it belongs. Fess up that you did something dishonest.
I would bet that the Chicago system does not have "Showtime" dancers swinging from the hand rails, conga players rappers and candy sellers roaming the system, homeless people living, eating, urinating and defecating in the stations and leaving all manner of trash everywhere. People selling cooked food, passengers with portable sound systems blasting music, people eating on the trains and leaving their garbage behind?
Dear Governor: The dumb courtesy campaign aimed at the most noxious and contemptible riders is a failure. The quality of the ride is atrocious and the stations and trains are an overflow of rancid street culture from the most inconsiderate and obnoxious passengers who do not think the courtesy campaign applies to them. Try enforcing the system rules instead. Relentlessly.
A 21st century transit system should not be a toxic hellhole one has to suffer in while awaiting the next inevitable breakdown or delay.
Put the money back into transit where it belongs. Last week we all read that we have to wait til next year to put billions more into the system. What?? Put the money back where it belongs. Fess up that you did something dishonest.
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Chicago has done an excellent job on public transit. The rest of the country, especially the Federal Government should do likewise. The WORST thing to do is infrastructure privatization, it would be yet another transfer of taxpayer assets to wealthy investors for which they would pay essentially nothing, and would be yet another national disaster.
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I applaud Mayor Emanuel for taking time from his busy schedule dodging accountability for the fiscal and moral destruction of the great city of Chicago to pat himself on the back for the smart use of my federal tax dollars to help modernize the transit system in Chicago. I notice he compared the Chicago L only to New York and Washington, DC, two localities also run by mostly democrats for the last 50 years. In Dallas, where we actually run the largest light rail system in the US, it constantly runs on time, has very few maintenance issues and gets very high ratings from riders. And we haven't spent $8.5 billion in Federal money to do so.
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This is like saying that your moped gets better mileage than somebody else's church van. Dallas has the seventh-largest light-rail system by ridership (where logistical challenges and wear come from; a few extra miles of track comes cheap). New York, Chicago, and Washington aren't even on that list, as they run heavy-rail transit systems, with more than seven times the ridership of DART.
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Rahm the delusional is getting desperate.
I used to spend a lot of time downtown.....not so much anymore.....you literally put your life on the line each and every time.
Additionally the downtown is a sewer....it stinks and there is garbage everywhere.....stop just a few blocks outide of Michigan avenue....there is garbage on the ground piled high behind buildings.
No white professional person would be caught dead riding the train....many minority professionals are afraid to ride.
Bottom line, Rahm is a fool and everyone knows it.
I used to spend a lot of time downtown.....not so much anymore.....you literally put your life on the line each and every time.
Additionally the downtown is a sewer....it stinks and there is garbage everywhere.....stop just a few blocks outide of Michigan avenue....there is garbage on the ground piled high behind buildings.
No white professional person would be caught dead riding the train....many minority professionals are afraid to ride.
Bottom line, Rahm is a fool and everyone knows it.
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As a native NYer who has also spent considerable time on the L, while I laud Mayor Emanuel's work in his city, comparing the two systems is laughable at best. Other comments have noted the wide difference in riders on the CTA vs. MTA & MTA's 24/7 service, but one need only compare maps of the two systems to see where the true disparity lies.
CTA: 8 lines & 145 stations
MTA: 36 lines & 472 stations
The CTA has far simpler stations & transfers: consider the complexties of 42nd street A/C/E/1/2/3/7/GTC Shuttle station or even transfering from the A to the 1 at 168th. Don't even get me started on fulton street. This is, of course, due to the IRT/IND but it has left the city with incredibly complicated infrastructure to repair and maintain.
The oculus is dumb and most NYers I know don't care how pretty the station is if the train in it isn't running. The SAS stations are absurdly ostentatious for service that stops at 96th street (seriously, MTA? stopping right on the border between the UES and spanish harlem?). Penn station is an embarassment and one need only check twitter any weekday morning to see what the daily LIRR crisis is. GOVERNOR CUOMO NO ONE CARES ABOUT USB CHARGERS ON THE BUS IF THE BUS ISN'T RUNNING.
The MTA isn't going to be saved by simply pumping more money into it - funds need to be managed better with more accountability and oversight. And on that subject, Mayor Emanuel is 100% right. But it would be foolish to hope Chicago holds all the answers.
CTA: 8 lines & 145 stations
MTA: 36 lines & 472 stations
The CTA has far simpler stations & transfers: consider the complexties of 42nd street A/C/E/1/2/3/7/GTC Shuttle station or even transfering from the A to the 1 at 168th. Don't even get me started on fulton street. This is, of course, due to the IRT/IND but it has left the city with incredibly complicated infrastructure to repair and maintain.
The oculus is dumb and most NYers I know don't care how pretty the station is if the train in it isn't running. The SAS stations are absurdly ostentatious for service that stops at 96th street (seriously, MTA? stopping right on the border between the UES and spanish harlem?). Penn station is an embarassment and one need only check twitter any weekday morning to see what the daily LIRR crisis is. GOVERNOR CUOMO NO ONE CARES ABOUT USB CHARGERS ON THE BUS IF THE BUS ISN'T RUNNING.
The MTA isn't going to be saved by simply pumping more money into it - funds need to be managed better with more accountability and oversight. And on that subject, Mayor Emanuel is 100% right. But it would be foolish to hope Chicago holds all the answers.
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As an east coast elitist, it is not so easy to give credit to our husky, big shouldered brothers on Lake Michigan.As someone who has visited the Windy City many times,and often used CTA,Rahm is correct!They have a great system,.Most stops also have attendants to help with directions and to purchase tickets.All in all a good value
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Yes, there are some great things about the L, as Mayor Emanuel has shared. I'm proud of you and wholeheartedly support your insistence to invest in the future.
At the same time, as a few here have pointed out, the train system comparison ought to also include foreign cities (think London, Zurich, Singapore, etc.) I'm painfully reminded by the missed opportunities when I'm on the Brown line train, as it slowly zigzags its way to the Loop -- isn't a straight line the shortest distance between two points? If I'm coming from the north side, why do I have to go to the Loop first to reach the west side? Last quibble: riders constantly block the entry because they can lean on the panels by the door. If you’re a New Yorker I would think that you would find this behavior to be very rude.
At the same time, as a few here have pointed out, the train system comparison ought to also include foreign cities (think London, Zurich, Singapore, etc.) I'm painfully reminded by the missed opportunities when I'm on the Brown line train, as it slowly zigzags its way to the Loop -- isn't a straight line the shortest distance between two points? If I'm coming from the north side, why do I have to go to the Loop first to reach the west side? Last quibble: riders constantly block the entry because they can lean on the panels by the door. If you’re a New Yorker I would think that you would find this behavior to be very rude.
Please run for president Rahm, I beg you, please please please. Right or wrong you are an honest person in a sea of liars and double talkers who point fingers rather than work on a solution. More often than not you are right unlike the current person occupying the White house who is wrong an amazing 100% of the time. You also are an effective team builder and have common sense.
You may not be lovable but who really cares. You remind me a lot of Bloomberg. Speaks his mind (after considerable thought and consultation unlike you know who) and does what is best for the MAJORITY. Makes hard decisions which may mean greater cost in the short run but cost effective in the long run.
P.S. run as an independent, both parties are damaged beyond repair.
You may not be lovable but who really cares. You remind me a lot of Bloomberg. Speaks his mind (after considerable thought and consultation unlike you know who) and does what is best for the MAJORITY. Makes hard decisions which may mean greater cost in the short run but cost effective in the long run.
P.S. run as an independent, both parties are damaged beyond repair.
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Congratulations, Mayor. It's nice to see a well run subway system. When I left DC, we hadn't yet been shown how badly the system was falling apart, but it still stunk to ride it, and it was still being run for the convenience of the Transit Authority, which I understand is still true. Now, how about those Chicago schools that barely educate to Third World levels? Then there's that gun control law that seems to only keep guns out of law abiding citizens' hands. Maybe the Transit Authority should be running some other departments...
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Good work Rahm, Now tackle the incredible murder rate, most of it black on black. This is a long time Democratic run city with very strict gun laws.
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Trains might run on time but so do pickpockets. Visited Chicago last week and had my wallet stolen on way in from airport; at hotel a simple google search resulted in articles in Chicago papers about problem on blue line for over a year. No warning signs no warning announcements but lots of announcements about no smoking no eating no loud music!
Good lord, Tom - you should know better than to keep your wallet in a pocket that a pickpocket can easily get to! That's something I was taught 50 years ago in my first trip to downtown Boston!
Nothing says "great mayor" than touting the success of 19th century technology in your city. Never mind that Chicago has a horrible murder rate, has extremely high taxes, and has expensive toll roads (why would you have toll roads in a city?). Plus they have some of the rudest people in the country, rivaling even New York City for that title. I used to travel to Chicago a lot years ago, and every time I could not wait to leave.
"The only way to keep a city moving is to invest in its future." With 19th century technology? And he wonders why he is rated as a horrible mayor?
"The only way to keep a city moving is to invest in its future." With 19th century technology? And he wonders why he is rated as a horrible mayor?
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Must be time to position oneself to lead the wandering in the desert lost Democratic Party. Notice that Rahm Emanuel has seriously upped his national profile lately. Having the trains run on time is good press. Unfortunately, murder rate that keeps going up, shootings keep increasing, police and poorer and many predominantly Afician American neighborhoods don't trust each other, Mayor Emanuel's reputation and national profile is deservedly battered and tattered. NYC has it's issues with getting the trains to run on time, but has much better statistics in terms of much lower murder rates and lower major crime rates. Giuliani, Bloomberg and DeBlasio all have better records as NYC Mayor than Emanuel has as Chicago Mayor. But Emanuel is ready to move up to higher office even though his tenure as mayor has been poor, specifically in the area of reducing crime. Bloomberg was a much better mayor, an entrepreneur and genuine billionaire, a champion of public health issues (has put his money - serious amounts - to champion those important causes), and would make a much better Presidential candidate in 2020 for the Democrats.
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Plus, there's the whole ganging up with Lord Madigan to bankrupt the state thingy. But Rahm's the man--just ask him.
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No offense. But I think New Yorkers are in a better position to judge Bloomberg on his merits as a Mayor.
That said, you would probably be disappointed with his ratings.
Money isn't everything, if you do nothing substantial with it.
And outside of lining his own pockets (sound familiar?), he didn't.
That said, you would probably be disappointed with his ratings.
Money isn't everything, if you do nothing substantial with it.
And outside of lining his own pockets (sound familiar?), he didn't.
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Rahm is a typical politician - full of sh!t and full of himself.
And, really now - Bloomberg is better?????
And, really now - Bloomberg is better?????
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"Trump should be looking to Chicago as a model for the infrastructure investments and economic growth he wants to replicate across the country. "
Yea, right. Chicago is still running a budget deficit, and never mind the billions it has in unfunded retirement funds.
Yea, right. Chicago is still running a budget deficit, and never mind the billions it has in unfunded retirement funds.
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Maybe the reason Chicago can "put reliability ahead of expansion" is because 238 million rides a year is literally an order of magnitude less than NYC's 1.756 BILLION subway riders alone (i.e. not counting the MTA's sidelines in commuter rail, bus, etc.). When you have a transit system that now needs to move 1 in every three people on planet earth a year, but was originally designed to move a fraction of that, it turns out that expansion is necessary. Just a thought.
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Actually, the NY Subway was designed to handle more people than it currently handles.
Comments that criticize the comparison between CTA and MTA miss the mark. Of course MTA is bigger and more complex. Rahm's point is that local control and the autonomy it allows has led to a reliable and growing system here in Chicago, while a tangled mess of agencies and bureaucrats have wreaked havoc on our friends in NYC/DC/SF who rely on public transit.
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You believe that a leftist Chicago Mayor is against centralized control? Keep dreaming.
I would love some fact-checking on this rosy picture of running Chicago drawn by its mayor. After all "better quality of life" is something most people don't identify Chicago with.
I also take issue with him asking for more government and more taxes. I would rather have the private sector figure this out. I don't think the government will be more efficient (far from it) that I will end up paying less tolls and fares as he contents.
Here I hear the same old broken record of more government and more taxes. 8 years of that and look what we got: Broken infrastructure and seemingly majority of the population who want to "dismantle the administrative state"
I also take issue with him asking for more government and more taxes. I would rather have the private sector figure this out. I don't think the government will be more efficient (far from it) that I will end up paying less tolls and fares as he contents.
Here I hear the same old broken record of more government and more taxes. 8 years of that and look what we got: Broken infrastructure and seemingly majority of the population who want to "dismantle the administrative state"
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Correction: Your statement that "the the majority of the population voted to dismantle the administrative regime" is not true. The majority of the population voted to elect Clinton. Trump won the election by winning the electoral vote, which by law confirmed him as president. Unfortunately, Trump does not want to believe he lost the majority vote, as his ego can't accept that fact that the majority of the population does not love him.
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I urge you to look into London's privatization of its subway system (hint: it failed). Broken infrastructure is not a product of more taxation as you claim, but failure to invest in basic public necessities and resources. New York's subway (as the NYT have pointed out in depth) is the perfect example of mis/dis/no investment.
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The investments that the City government has made in infrastructure and development, at times leveraged with private investment, has paid off tenfold for Chicago. It is a lovely place to love. The private takeover of parking, while it also works, is a huge ripoff. As citizens we reap greater returns via our taxes.
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Too many Americans and republican legislators who will not raise taxes for any reason seem to feel that when infrastructure is built it lasts forever. Be it roads, bridges water and sewer systems it just doesn't work that way. Infrastructure requires constant maintenance and upgrading to remain viable. Would America build the Interstate Highway System today? I think not It would just cost to much for republicans. That is why the U.S. is heading to the third world whilst everything crumbles around us.
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That's the way the GOP sworn to uphold the Koch Boys obsession with authoritarian govt want it; no taxes means no services means no need for federal government which means destruction of Democracy;rule by Oligarchs (we already are) privatize everything (dunces trump and devos) no need for middle America and all their messy needs;just wealthy leader authoritarianism and a feudal caste system for the rest of us. Pay attention, this is happening now.
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The trains run on time. And it's a war zone with an ever increasing body count.
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From what I have heard it is a war zone in 2 locations and that the rest of the population lives a life that doesn't even know it exists.
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@Peggysmom that's how it used to be. Unfortunately people get shot on our expressways now, and the crime is creeping into the downtown areas. It is still mostly gang-related but a stray bullet knows no gang affiliations.
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You are trying to get rid of Trump by declaring him mentally unfit like they used to do in the Soviet Union, you prevent your political opponents from speaking like "in the good old days" and you are at least honest on your inspiration in the title of this article.
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Fascinating contrast with DeBlasio: Chicago - warzone with great trains vs. New York - horrible transit but survivable. 2 Democratic mayors - 2 very different versions of ineptitude. Let them join the rest of the Democratic contenders for the 2020 election.
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Given the way the Republicans are running the country into the ground, we'll be lucky to survive until 2020.
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In a million years I never thought I would say this but unlike the last election I will vote for DeBlasio this time. My neighborhood is totally safe now that he and the NYPD has solved the homeless problem where I live and he has helped to keep rent affordable for solid middle class people like me. Also, when we did have the homeless problem I spoke to the police officer in charge of the homeless situation and he told me it started under Bloomberg.
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Not surprising that da mayor should toot his own horn, but he really should know better than to publish in New York. Of course, New Yorkers view the editorial with competition, and miss the point - local control and no privatization. Sure the El is limited, and only goes to the loop, but it's smart to keep the business district and jobs centralized. And Chicago is also busy creating bus lanes that make bus transportation much less costly (wasting fuel and carbon in traffic is stupid). A new proposal for a bus lane on Lake Shore Drive would vastly reduce commuting times. The bikeshare system in Chicago is very popular, and both bus and bike supplement and connect to the El. Yes Chicago is drivable, but the congestion is unpredictable and avoidable by using public transportation. My husband and I sold our cars when we moved into the city 5-6 years ago, and are much healthier for it, with lower carbon footprint to boot.
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It seems so many people want to be critical of Rahm Emanuel for writing this. What he has accomplished in the City of Chicago has been nothing short of spectacular for our transit system, and it is one of the first things any tourist will tell you they appreciate about coming to our city over other large cities (besides Midwestern hospitality, of course!). Our fleet is going to be the youngest on the rails, with refreshed stations and rails to maximize the productivity of the system. With the Loop Link and other bus refinements, we are truly making the city very easy to mobilize.
As an Illinoisan now in Pennsylania for medical school, I think many of our criticisms for a corrupt state government are a bit unfair, fellow readers. PA collects tons on their tollways, city wage taxes, etc (in Philly) and the roads and the transit is completely inefficient. When I visited schools in Boston, I found the T to be nice, but again, I was standing around waiting much longer than I anticipated.
Chicago is more than a crime ridden scumhole, as some New Yorkers would like to portray it as. This article is not about putting NYC down, it's about the waves of benefits that came from investment in transit improvements. That has spurred the growth, new job opportunities, and more visitors despite the problems we face. Cook County does not have everything together, but Chicago is a highly livable city for blue and white collar families, and one that makes ditching the car pretty easy today.
As an Illinoisan now in Pennsylania for medical school, I think many of our criticisms for a corrupt state government are a bit unfair, fellow readers. PA collects tons on their tollways, city wage taxes, etc (in Philly) and the roads and the transit is completely inefficient. When I visited schools in Boston, I found the T to be nice, but again, I was standing around waiting much longer than I anticipated.
Chicago is more than a crime ridden scumhole, as some New Yorkers would like to portray it as. This article is not about putting NYC down, it's about the waves of benefits that came from investment in transit improvements. That has spurred the growth, new job opportunities, and more visitors despite the problems we face. Cook County does not have everything together, but Chicago is a highly livable city for blue and white collar families, and one that makes ditching the car pretty easy today.
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I'm sorry but it's not putting down Emmanuel by pointing out why the comparison is ridiculous. NYC has a population and ridership numbers bursting at the seams. Hence the problems. It is NOT because of a lack of investment. Chicago is still well below its peak population.
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I do understand New York is "bursting at the seams", but I still don't feel like the comparison is completely ridiculous. People on here are saying we should be comparing ourselves to London or Paris, which I think is a ridiculous statement when the United States does not invest nearly as much in mass-transit as Europe does.
Rahm Emanuel is pointing out that while MTA officials at one time (not sure if they still are) were pursuing a train to Dulles, we focused on the fundamental system to help enhance it's operation capabilities instead. Your city has a bursting ridership that invests to ride the system, hence the investment should be there to continue to enhance the system to minimize the "bursting at the seams" you are describing. Others on this forum have responded that investment doesn't happen because so many bureaucrats are involved with the management of MTA, hence the Mayor mentioning centralized, local controls help the CTA function.
I'm sorry, but I don't think that it's wrong of him to compare that our system has benefited from fixing stations, tracks, and switches when this is just as applicable to the MTA, even if you have more of each. His message hits the mark that the FTA should support cities like NYC continue to improve their system when such a significant amount of citizens and visitors are utilizing these services.
Rahm Emanuel is pointing out that while MTA officials at one time (not sure if they still are) were pursuing a train to Dulles, we focused on the fundamental system to help enhance it's operation capabilities instead. Your city has a bursting ridership that invests to ride the system, hence the investment should be there to continue to enhance the system to minimize the "bursting at the seams" you are describing. Others on this forum have responded that investment doesn't happen because so many bureaucrats are involved with the management of MTA, hence the Mayor mentioning centralized, local controls help the CTA function.
I'm sorry, but I don't think that it's wrong of him to compare that our system has benefited from fixing stations, tracks, and switches when this is just as applicable to the MTA, even if you have more of each. His message hits the mark that the FTA should support cities like NYC continue to improve their system when such a significant amount of citizens and visitors are utilizing these services.
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Please. Get it straight. New Yorkers aren't portraying Chicago as a "crime ridden scumhole" -- statistics are doing that.
But you've still got a great train system...wow.
But you've still got a great train system...wow.
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I am not impressed by the mayor's infomercial. For example, he boasts that some trains soon will be running at fifty-five miles per hour. From personal experience, I know that they have been running that rapidly in Mexico City for more than two decades. Similarly, his self-satisfaction at the amount of infrastructure investments ignores the reality that the grossly overstaffed municipal work force cotinues to impose a higher spending burden on the city than its revenue stream can maintain. In Berlin, London, and Mexico City, the doors do not require a full-time employee to open and close. In Chicago, they do.
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What are you talking about? Chicago was one of the first of the older cities in the US to move to one person operation, in the 1990s. It's New York that hasn't done that... By the way, CTA trains have always operated at 55 miles per hour (before Mexico City had a metro)
I recently took the Chicago Architecture Society boat tour while showing friends around town. The amount of construction and vibrancy was stunning, even to a long time area resident. Like most urban centers, Chicago's leaders still need to focus more resources on poorer areas and continue reforming and refining law enforcement. Despite those issues, Rahm has received little credit for the progress made in cleaning up the mess he inherited. Post-recession Chicago is back on a path to resurgence, if state government finally manages to balance the budget this year. Emanuel knows that transportation is key to the success of any city. Despite criticism from many who have no workable ideas of their own, he has performed admirably in attracting more businesses and urban professionals to the city's core. Rahm Emanuel knows that growing the tax base is the only sure path to financial opportunity for all residents.
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He hasn't made a dent yet in $40 billion pension liabilities. I just got my property tax bill. It's up 10% from last year. The state just passed a 32% income tax increase. Fun times here.
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Mayor Emmanuel - sorry but not a good comparison.
1) your transit system is NOWHERE near as heavily used per mile. 2) it does not run 24 hours 365 days a year on all lines. 3) there was no reason to expand your system since there has been no real population growth to speak of. NYC added half of Chicago to its population in the past 25 years.
1) your transit system is NOWHERE near as heavily used per mile. 2) it does not run 24 hours 365 days a year on all lines. 3) there was no reason to expand your system since there has been no real population growth to speak of. NYC added half of Chicago to its population in the past 25 years.
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As a native Chicagoan who used the city's transit system while living there, and still use it occasionally when visiting, I have to say it beats both NYC and Boston.
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Rahm Emmanuel's Chicago is a city that WORKS. Outsiders love to perpetuate the stereotype of Chicago as New York's poor, less fortunate sister, but I just have to roll my eyes. Working class people can actually afford to LIVE in our city. Families can stay and raise their kids here. Neighborhoods are distinct and alive with the energy of multiple generations. Gorgeous parks, outstanding cultural institutions, amazing restaurants, reliable transit, walkable neighborhoods, and affordable housing--it's all here. Sure, we have our challenges, but what city doesn't? Rahm understands that Chicago is a working-class city, not a playground for the wealthy, and he's fighting to keep it that way. I applaud him for it.
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Thank you, Amy. I share many of the same sentiments, and think we are very fortunate to have a leader that actually wants to preserve the character that made Chicago the city it is.
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Are you on the mayor's staff?
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Why are so many readers so defensive and just using the excuse that the scale of the MTA is so much larger? A failure to properly maintain your system is the source of your issues. We need to support ALL mass transit systems and increase our investment in future infrastructure.
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Ah, a voice of reason!
David - because you simply don't know what you are talking about. The city and ridership are bursting at the seams. Chicago has the opposite problem. Easier to maintain. I won't make disparaging or insulting comments. But you all simply don't understand the difference.
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Just for the record. The "scale" is not an excuse. It's real.
And so are the MILLIONS of us who have to use the entire public transit system everyday.
And as far as deing "defensive" is concerned -- that's what we do, about our trains ... and about our pizza.
No hard feelings.
And so are the MILLIONS of us who have to use the entire public transit system everyday.
And as far as deing "defensive" is concerned -- that's what we do, about our trains ... and about our pizza.
No hard feelings.
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They may run on time, but it's crapshoot if you will get to your destination in one piece. :-)
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Oooh, nice one bro!
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I speak as both a native New Yorker (till age 20) and a Chicagoan for the past 40 years. Just returned from a long NYC weekend (was there for Christmas too) and observed that while the former IND/BMT trains (letter-designated) were fine during non-rush hours, they were overcrowded during rush--and the former IRT was crowded at off-hours and intolerably packed at evening rush. LIRR, however, was a joy.
Here, I take CTA ("the L," even when a subway) into the Loop. and can attest that it's clean, punctual & dependable: LED signs on platforms announce est. arrivals for the next few trains, and both buses and train cars (at least the Red line) display next stops and recordings even say on which side the doors open. Cell service exists even underground. Not enough HC-accessible stations, but far more than in NYC.
But Chicago is far easier to run efficiently: more compact--one narrow river (crossable on foot) runs through it. Not only a single county (Cook) but not even the only city in the county. Shorter distances between stations. Lower cost of living. And less than 1/3 NYC's population. NYC has 5 dueling county govts. But we still have cracked and potholed (occasionally sinkholed) streets, and unannounced construction makes car-commuting a challenge: sometimes there are no "alternate routes." We have two seasons: Construction and Snow Day.
Here, I take CTA ("the L," even when a subway) into the Loop. and can attest that it's clean, punctual & dependable: LED signs on platforms announce est. arrivals for the next few trains, and both buses and train cars (at least the Red line) display next stops and recordings even say on which side the doors open. Cell service exists even underground. Not enough HC-accessible stations, but far more than in NYC.
But Chicago is far easier to run efficiently: more compact--one narrow river (crossable on foot) runs through it. Not only a single county (Cook) but not even the only city in the county. Shorter distances between stations. Lower cost of living. And less than 1/3 NYC's population. NYC has 5 dueling county govts. But we still have cracked and potholed (occasionally sinkholed) streets, and unannounced construction makes car-commuting a challenge: sometimes there are no "alternate routes." We have two seasons: Construction and Snow Day.
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While transit in Chicago is good, it should be free for poor people and students, not the elderly.
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Also said of Benito Mussolini by New Dealers.
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No "New Dealers" were responsible for this phase regarding the trains running on time in Fascist Italy. It has been attributed to wealthy British tourists who often were Fascist friendly or even Mussolini himself when he informed the Mayor of Milan that his train to Rome had to be on time when he was scheduled to meet with the King who had agreed to appoint him Prime Minister.
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I'm no fan of Emanuel, but he definitely deserves credit for greatly improving the quality of the transit system. Ten years ago, under Mayor Daley, it was routine to get stuck in the subway for 30 minutes without warning when something broke down. That never happens anymore. Emanuel brought professionalism to a system that had been the agency where Daley stuck his patronage cronies who had screwed up elsewhere. I would like to see the system expanded, though, run the Red Line to the actual south end of the city for those underserved neighborhoods, move the Brown Line west to connect with the Blue Line and O'Hare, and make the electric line to Hyde Park part of the CTA and run those trains more frequently. But Rahm had it right -- fix the existing system, make it run great, then expand. Other cities should take note.
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.... except for the dreaded "unauthorized person on the track" - meaning either a mentally ill person exploring or a suicide. Our trains slow down during construction but at least keep running. I moved back here after a short while in Denver, and the mass transit is one reason. I am an urban dweller and refuse to own a car so the CTA is critical.
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So, let me get this straight....murders are at an all-time high. The video of the police shooting of Laquan McDonald stays out of public view for more than a year, the Cubs are barely over .500 and Illinois is headed into its third year without a budget. But, "the trains actually run on time."
How 1934 Italy!
How 1934 Italy!
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Of course, you take an Op-Ed about the benefits of investing in mass transit and decide to make off-handed comments about the state of Illinois.
What is it with east coasters that are so defensive about anything good to say about elsewhere than New York City or the east coast? It's like the region collectively cannot stand anybody having a successful implementation of something beyond yourselves. I'm not going to waste time and write about NYC's problems, because this is not what the Op-Ed is about.
We are discussing the benefits of the nation investing more into infrastructure, particularly mass transit, as well as the benefits of having local leadership that is more invested in its progress. Stay on topic.
What is it with east coasters that are so defensive about anything good to say about elsewhere than New York City or the east coast? It's like the region collectively cannot stand anybody having a successful implementation of something beyond yourselves. I'm not going to waste time and write about NYC's problems, because this is not what the Op-Ed is about.
We are discussing the benefits of the nation investing more into infrastructure, particularly mass transit, as well as the benefits of having local leadership that is more invested in its progress. Stay on topic.
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Ron, I hope you were clocked out of your City of Chicago job when you wrote all of your posts.
I think Rahm would be a good presidential candidate if he can bring murder rate and shooting rate down 50%.
I think Rahm would be a good presidential candidate if he can bring murder rate and shooting rate down 50%.
yes the trains run on time. but you have the murder capital of the country, and the mayor himself covered up the horrific killing of a young man of color by the Chicago police. Emmanuel should be recalled in disgrace, in jail, or both. shameful
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right on
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Like it or not most all of us are being taken for a ride by those who never consider using public transportation.
Government at all levels here and throughout the world is run by and for the wealthy. Politicians bake the welfare of both themselves and their friends into the social pie, take the largest slices for themselves, leave the crumbs and hand us the bill.
This is a nice puff piece written by a guy who knows how the game is played.
Government at all levels here and throughout the world is run by and for the wealthy. Politicians bake the welfare of both themselves and their friends into the social pie, take the largest slices for themselves, leave the crumbs and hand us the bill.
This is a nice puff piece written by a guy who knows how the game is played.
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Haha what do homicides have to do with an Op-Ed about transit? Do people know that little about Chicago that all they can do is play word association? Keep your knee-jerk caricature descriptions of the city to yourselves, and don't let Trump's tweets fool you - there are plenty of other cities with a significantly higher homicide rate.
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@Ben
Here's the thing. Most of us here in New York City don't care a jot about Donald Trump, or his tweets.
But we do care about homicide rates -- once having had significantly more of them than we have now, so it's no "knee-jerk caricature" reaction...we keep an eye out on these kind of things.
Here's the thing. Most of us here in New York City don't care a jot about Donald Trump, or his tweets.
But we do care about homicide rates -- once having had significantly more of them than we have now, so it's no "knee-jerk caricature" reaction...we keep an eye out on these kind of things.
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Old Rahn better be careful. Paraphrasing Mussolini on the efficiency of train schedules may be something to brag about but that murder rate might just a tad be getting in the way of citing the pluses of visiting Chi-Town.
I love the city, another Democratic stronghold that works. I love that Barack Obama began his political career there, and in general it's like Frank said, "my kind of town".
What Chicago is not is a Trump town, and we in New York City salute you. Trump's presence here has been an albatross for decades. Now he has become the nation's and the world's. All things considered, we would gladly take him back. Here, he was a known quantity, a babbling blowhard buffoon whom no one trusted, no New York financial institution would grant a loan. He was just some surgically-endowed grumpy old man who was wiling away his twilight years in absurdity and new obscurity.
Sorry about that, folks. Sorry to all those who will never see the light about Trump, or who have but are too embarrassed to admit how wrong they were. We effete elites you love to put down told you so. You chose not to listen. And you wonder why we make fun of you? By voting Trump you only reinforce the impressions we have of you, gullible goobers and bumpkins who bought Trump's Snake Oil. On this Fourth of July, we will be celebrating as always. Things are going gangbusters here. Not so much in Trump America. What's up with that, gang?
DD
Manhattan
I love the city, another Democratic stronghold that works. I love that Barack Obama began his political career there, and in general it's like Frank said, "my kind of town".
What Chicago is not is a Trump town, and we in New York City salute you. Trump's presence here has been an albatross for decades. Now he has become the nation's and the world's. All things considered, we would gladly take him back. Here, he was a known quantity, a babbling blowhard buffoon whom no one trusted, no New York financial institution would grant a loan. He was just some surgically-endowed grumpy old man who was wiling away his twilight years in absurdity and new obscurity.
Sorry about that, folks. Sorry to all those who will never see the light about Trump, or who have but are too embarrassed to admit how wrong they were. We effete elites you love to put down told you so. You chose not to listen. And you wonder why we make fun of you? By voting Trump you only reinforce the impressions we have of you, gullible goobers and bumpkins who bought Trump's Snake Oil. On this Fourth of July, we will be celebrating as always. Things are going gangbusters here. Not so much in Trump America. What's up with that, gang?
DD
Manhattan
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Agree 100% on all things said about Trump -- but "gladly take him back"??? ...
Only if it meant saving the country from nuclear fallout.
Only if it meant saving the country from nuclear fallout.
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@Dennis D: ICYMI, Illinois is due to declare insolvency just about any day now.
Despite living in a blue state, I, and many in my circle, voted for Trump, and will do so again. OK, it's not that big of a circle, but hey.
I am, however, glad to know you refer to us as "gullible goobers and bumpkins" and do so hope that the next Democrat for President contender does the same. Didn't Hillary do herself an enormous amount of good by chalking us up as "irredeemable"?
Rahm's Chicago is rife with problems, most inherited. Too bad Obama's EIGHT years did nothing to ameliorate his home town's murder and other crime rates. But Chicago IS a sanctuary city and is basically a safe harbor for any kind of criminal--illegal or legal.
We goobers, bumpkins and deplorables will be celebrating the 4th, just like you. Except we enjoy it without casting aspersions on those who dare have different views from our own.
Despite living in a blue state, I, and many in my circle, voted for Trump, and will do so again. OK, it's not that big of a circle, but hey.
I am, however, glad to know you refer to us as "gullible goobers and bumpkins" and do so hope that the next Democrat for President contender does the same. Didn't Hillary do herself an enormous amount of good by chalking us up as "irredeemable"?
Rahm's Chicago is rife with problems, most inherited. Too bad Obama's EIGHT years did nothing to ameliorate his home town's murder and other crime rates. But Chicago IS a sanctuary city and is basically a safe harbor for any kind of criminal--illegal or legal.
We goobers, bumpkins and deplorables will be celebrating the 4th, just like you. Except we enjoy it without casting aspersions on those who dare have different views from our own.
Dear N.Smith:
As horrible the thought of taking Trump back might be, saving the country, and the world mind you, from nuclear fallout, is but one of many cataclysmic events we would be accomplishing by keeping Trump hunkered here in New York, locked up in his Tower's penthouse, free to watch and rave at the TV day and night, and most of all do no harm.
'Tis a far, far, nobler thing we do, to save the world from the things Trump may do.
DD
Manhattan
As horrible the thought of taking Trump back might be, saving the country, and the world mind you, from nuclear fallout, is but one of many cataclysmic events we would be accomplishing by keeping Trump hunkered here in New York, locked up in his Tower's penthouse, free to watch and rave at the TV day and night, and most of all do no harm.
'Tis a far, far, nobler thing we do, to save the world from the things Trump may do.
DD
Manhattan
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I moved to the Western Chicago suburbs 17 years ago, from Silicon Valley. I continue to be impressed by the public transit to downtown Chicago. (Alas, living in the 'burbs generally requires a car.)
I take the BNSF (not the "El") reliably to and from my downtown job. That train line is what made and keeps Naperville such a desirable suburb -- driving just isn't a viable option, IMHO. So, while I think it's expensive, a monthly pass is a good buy, there's enough parking if you drive to the station, you just about always get a seat, and the conductors are nice... Plus, great bus and El connections at the other end, at Union Station. I can't say enough good things about the bus drivers!
In the meantime, when I visit family in Fremont, CA, and (try to) take BART into San Francisco for work, it's a mess. Overcrowded cars and platforms, endless break-downs and delays, constantly broken escalators... It's an embarrassment!
I'll take Chicago public transit any day!
I take the BNSF (not the "El") reliably to and from my downtown job. That train line is what made and keeps Naperville such a desirable suburb -- driving just isn't a viable option, IMHO. So, while I think it's expensive, a monthly pass is a good buy, there's enough parking if you drive to the station, you just about always get a seat, and the conductors are nice... Plus, great bus and El connections at the other end, at Union Station. I can't say enough good things about the bus drivers!
In the meantime, when I visit family in Fremont, CA, and (try to) take BART into San Francisco for work, it's a mess. Overcrowded cars and platforms, endless break-downs and delays, constantly broken escalators... It's an embarrassment!
I'll take Chicago public transit any day!
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Yes, the CTA is pretty reliable...and my family loves riding it when visiting from downstate Illinois, swaying back and forth, viewing all of the city's neighborhoods.
Now, if they could just learn to keep the Red Line cars clean inside.
Now, if they could just learn to keep the Red Line cars clean inside.
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I think a key distinction in the entire "which city has the more effective, efficient and better running transit" argument is Rahm Emanuel. Prior to being elected Chicago's Mayor, he was President Obama's Chief of Staff. Mr. Emanuel became extremely well versed on the workings and networking in Washington and the FTA (Federal Transit Administration). Having that background information coupled with a President who was from Chicago and supported Mr. Emanuel right out of the gate, led to a successful long term partnership that helped Chicago and their transit mission and needs. What the entire country needs is a shift in the transit paradigm - once transit is in the forefront rather than an afterthought, progress can be made. If only this country viewed transit as a top priority the way London, Paris and a host of other cities do, then and only then, would there be a shaking of the money tree from the Federal government in supporting other cities like New York. Heck, forget about that silly wall proposal and more billions requested for defense. Folks unable to get to work everyday coupled with the unsafe infrastructure should be a huge red flag for the Feds. That's where the money should go.
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Having a wall, defense and good infrastructure should all be achievable. There's enough graft and corruption in Chicago alone to pay for the Wall and Infrastructure. That is, until Illinois declares insolvency, largely thanks to Chicago.
If you are looking for the "best in class" model of designing and operating complex transportation systems, don't look to Chicago or New York. Look to Germany if your goal is efficiency, reliability, and service -- Intercity Express, S-Bahn, U-Bahn.
The average German family needs only one automobile. Germans have taken LUTRAC (land use, transportation, air quality) national.
The average German family needs only one automobile. Germans have taken LUTRAC (land use, transportation, air quality) national.
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Sorry to bust the bubble, but if you ask most Germans, they aren't too pleased with the DB (Deutsche Bahn), which has been falling apart, while raising fares.
And the ICE (Intercity Express) is great if you're in, or near a big city, otherwise you have to depend on the RB (Regionalbahn), which will leave you longing for a car.
And the ICE (Intercity Express) is great if you're in, or near a big city, otherwise you have to depend on the RB (Regionalbahn), which will leave you longing for a car.
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N, Smith: With all due respect Sir, I have taken trains throughout Europe from Venice through Switzerland to Paris on to Calais across the Channel to Dover and on to London. Another time Around Italy for a month another time from Munich to Salzburg on to Vienna. Although these were not the super star fast trains, they did make an occasional stop to pick up a lone skier, I can say without hesitation these were the best travel experiences of my life, even the food was great, particularly the schnitzel on the Salzburg stretch. We could indeed learn a great deal about trains and life from the Europeans, in particular before globalization and the War in Iraq.
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@ted
First. I'm not a "Sir".
Second. And more significantly, I'm German -- so yes, I do have an idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to DB (Deutsche Bahn).
And while I commend you on your travels, that still doesn't alter what I've said about them in my comment.
First. I'm not a "Sir".
Second. And more significantly, I'm German -- so yes, I do have an idea of what I'm talking about when it comes to DB (Deutsche Bahn).
And while I commend you on your travels, that still doesn't alter what I've said about them in my comment.
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i can't speak for the average commuter, but the people i know who have visited chicago are impressed by the rapid transit system. Nice article.
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Mr Emanuel's smug essay begs the question:
Would you rather live in Chicago where the trains run on time (great turn of phrase by the way) and be under siege by the constant threat of gun violence? Or in New York City, with transportation delays and inconvenience? I'll take the latter. We're New Yorkers. We can deal with it.
Would you rather live in Chicago where the trains run on time (great turn of phrase by the way) and be under siege by the constant threat of gun violence? Or in New York City, with transportation delays and inconvenience? I'll take the latter. We're New Yorkers. We can deal with it.
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Actually, I'd rather live in Chicago-- That's why I chose to retire here after spending the middle years of my life in Tennessee.. And I'm a born and bred Manhattanite (lived in NYC till age 40 when I moved south). who just couldn't afford to spend the requisite million dollars for a one bedroom apartment.
So yes,I prefer my gorgeous 1/3 the price two bedroom on the lake... and more to the point, the thrill of living in a genuinely MIDDLE CLASS thriving multicultural cultural hub... .. (Chicago is like the NYC I used to know)
So yes,I prefer my gorgeous 1/3 the price two bedroom on the lake... and more to the point, the thrill of living in a genuinely MIDDLE CLASS thriving multicultural cultural hub... .. (Chicago is like the NYC I used to know)
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Ok so now Chicago has 1 thing going well. Congratulations Rahm. How's that murder rate doing? Anything for a compliment right?
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The Chicago L is a good system and here we take great pride in it, as well as express our love by complaining about its faults. The CTA has made a valiant effort to maintain and incrementally improve the system under a long-term regime of severe budgetary constraint. The Emanuel administration has focused its "L" energies on system improvements such as new cars, renovated stations and new infill stations, in addition to the infrastructure improvements mentioned in the article. The system is generally doing well, but taking it to the next level means increasing the density of the network throughout the city - additional lines and especially "wheel" lines to connect the "spokes" of its current hub-and-spoke service. Not mentioned in the article but another good thing that this administration has done is enact the city's transit-oriented development (TOD) ordinance, which incentivizes densification around L stations. This is creating positive change in many neighborhoods as well as driving additional traffic to the system.
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That's great, Rahm. So if your constituency makes it to the train without getting shot or harassed by police, they're golden.
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I'm not sure what CTA system Rahm is writing about, but it is not the one I ride while in Chicago. For both trains and buses, the overhead signs are never right for time of arrival. I have waited 30 minutes for a blue line train in the loop at mid-day, and seen signs for buses arriving in 20 minutes which never even show up. CTA is NOT an example of a transit system that runs on time, but the exact opposite.
Asking motorists to pay for the CTA is grossly unfair, especially since over 99% of motorists in Illinois don't even use the CTA. CTA users should pay for upgrades and expansion, and should not get money from the gas tax, federal government or insolvent state of Illinois. And TIF's are nothing but a tax scam that raises taxes on individuals which is then pocketed by the FOR's (Friends of Rahm).
And while Rahm talks a good line about not using money for expansion, how's that new station under block 37 working out? The one that sits empty and the public is not allowed to even see?
Of course most CTA stations are significantly better than one of the most horrific places in Chicago: Union Station. A dark dungeon of despair and stench where security guards delight in harassing patrons just for the sport of it. I will take New York's subways and Penn stations any day over Chicago.
Asking motorists to pay for the CTA is grossly unfair, especially since over 99% of motorists in Illinois don't even use the CTA. CTA users should pay for upgrades and expansion, and should not get money from the gas tax, federal government or insolvent state of Illinois. And TIF's are nothing but a tax scam that raises taxes on individuals which is then pocketed by the FOR's (Friends of Rahm).
And while Rahm talks a good line about not using money for expansion, how's that new station under block 37 working out? The one that sits empty and the public is not allowed to even see?
Of course most CTA stations are significantly better than one of the most horrific places in Chicago: Union Station. A dark dungeon of despair and stench where security guards delight in harassing patrons just for the sport of it. I will take New York's subways and Penn stations any day over Chicago.
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Chicago transit not as rosy as pictured.
Local control becomes a competitive grab-all between CTA, Pace, Metra, and para-transit with no coordinated oversight and funding.
The claim of increasing capacity by eliminating delay with a $350m flyover is false and ignores boarding delays in route with crowded trains. Even when new trains are delivered, there is no yard capacity!
Over $4b will be spent for rebuilding 5 miles of four-track mainline when two of the tracks only are used in peak weekday hours for the Purple Line and there is no capacity to increase service on tracks shared with the Brown Line to the Loop.
Rather than exploit existing rapid transit lines operated by Metra, CTA is planning to build a competing $2.1b extension that makes no connection with Metra into the suburbs.
Finally, my pet gripe is that expressway median transit, worse than at-grade or elevated lines, is an awful windy, noisy, smelly, and icy environment for riders that could be improved by enclosing the platforms.
Local control becomes a competitive grab-all between CTA, Pace, Metra, and para-transit with no coordinated oversight and funding.
The claim of increasing capacity by eliminating delay with a $350m flyover is false and ignores boarding delays in route with crowded trains. Even when new trains are delivered, there is no yard capacity!
Over $4b will be spent for rebuilding 5 miles of four-track mainline when two of the tracks only are used in peak weekday hours for the Purple Line and there is no capacity to increase service on tracks shared with the Brown Line to the Loop.
Rather than exploit existing rapid transit lines operated by Metra, CTA is planning to build a competing $2.1b extension that makes no connection with Metra into the suburbs.
Finally, my pet gripe is that expressway median transit, worse than at-grade or elevated lines, is an awful windy, noisy, smelly, and icy environment for riders that could be improved by enclosing the platforms.
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Who cares about the trains when the city is Murder Capital of the USA?
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As someone who works in urban transportation and who has lived in both cities, I can say that this Op-Ed is almost entirely inaccurate.
First, the two systems can't really be compared. The Chicago system (which is actually 3rd busiest, after DC) has roughly 1/15 the ridership of the NYC system. Single lines in NYC have more ridership than the entire Chicago system. 60% of NYC households lack vehicles, in Chicago 75%-80% of households have at least one car. Essentially NYC is a transit-dependent city with a massive system and Chicago is a car-dependent city with a very limited system.
Second, the Chicago system is also very troubled, just in different ways. The main reason the NYC system is having current difficulties is because ridership increased by 50% in the span of a few years, without any concurrent system expansion. While the MTA is a highly flawed organization, there is no way any system in the U.S. could have avoided the resulting delays stemming from such a ridership surge, because it takes decades to build new lines or convert existing lines to computerized operation.
The Chicago system has had no such ridership surge, so obviously doesn't have the resulting delays. But it has massive infrastructure issues, with badly deteriorating rolling stock, structurally deficient stations and elevated route, lack of maintenance personnel, and the like. Chicago essentially has the opposite problem as NYC- too little ridership.
First, the two systems can't really be compared. The Chicago system (which is actually 3rd busiest, after DC) has roughly 1/15 the ridership of the NYC system. Single lines in NYC have more ridership than the entire Chicago system. 60% of NYC households lack vehicles, in Chicago 75%-80% of households have at least one car. Essentially NYC is a transit-dependent city with a massive system and Chicago is a car-dependent city with a very limited system.
Second, the Chicago system is also very troubled, just in different ways. The main reason the NYC system is having current difficulties is because ridership increased by 50% in the span of a few years, without any concurrent system expansion. While the MTA is a highly flawed organization, there is no way any system in the U.S. could have avoided the resulting delays stemming from such a ridership surge, because it takes decades to build new lines or convert existing lines to computerized operation.
The Chicago system has had no such ridership surge, so obviously doesn't have the resulting delays. But it has massive infrastructure issues, with badly deteriorating rolling stock, structurally deficient stations and elevated route, lack of maintenance personnel, and the like. Chicago essentially has the opposite problem as NYC- too little ridership.
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Respectfully, you might want to doublecheck those figures before using them for any system planning. I get an increase of 6.2% on MTA rail 2012-2016 from http://web.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/ridership_sub_annual.htm and an increase of 3.2% on CTA rail from http://www.transitchicago.com/ridership/.
Of course, nothing else in Chicago works properly, but at least you can reliably get out.
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Unlike in Boston, where you can't.
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The positives without the negatives. Nothing here about Metra, where the trains are often delayed. They actually do not run on time. It can be a real nightmare. Metra may not be directly managed by the city, but it's part of the Chicago transportation system. They're the trains people have to take to get to the L, to trains that actually work.
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When I was a teenager growing up in Chicago, I regularly rode the Howard 'L', what I believe is now known as the Blue Line, from the loop to the North terminal at Howard street. It took 25 minutes. I now visit Chicago a few times a year and often use rapid transit to get around. Both the trains and the platforms are far cleaner and more attractive than they were when I was young, but that same ride I used to take from the loop to Howard Street now consistently takes 40 minutes. Something is wrong with this picture.
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You rode the RED Line and there are slow spots while the large Wilson stop is being renovated. It'll improve later this year.
In the old days the Red line had A and B stops. Trains would stop at alternate stations. Now they
stop at each station. You forgot?
stop at each station. You forgot?
In the old days the Red line had A and B trains and they stopped at alternate stations. Now trains stop at every station. You forgot?
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An enthusiastic "Yes!" to investing in our future.
Given the huge disparity in the sizes of the systems compared in this Op-Ed, I'd be interested to understand how the systems stack up in terms of operational costs/rider (for example) or staff FTEs/rider, or annualized capital outlays/rider etc. It would also be helpful to use comparisons of that nature with an eye to where each system is in terms of its intended service life. (Aging systems cost more to maintain and operate, generally speaking.)
Those types of comparisons would provide a very helpful view of how we win or lose by investing in our infrastructure.
Given the huge disparity in the sizes of the systems compared in this Op-Ed, I'd be interested to understand how the systems stack up in terms of operational costs/rider (for example) or staff FTEs/rider, or annualized capital outlays/rider etc. It would also be helpful to use comparisons of that nature with an eye to where each system is in terms of its intended service life. (Aging systems cost more to maintain and operate, generally speaking.)
Those types of comparisons would provide a very helpful view of how we win or lose by investing in our infrastructure.
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Have lived in Chicago and NY. I'll take the NY subway due to the frequency of trains (even in off peak times), the under appreciated luxury of regular express trains (the purple in Chicago is only one line and runs only part of day express) across multiple lines, and that the subway goes far more places (the "L" largely carries people to the loop and back). The quantity of subway lines also allows for alternative routes on the subway is something isn't running (much tougher on the "L"). Living in NY you hop on and off the subway all the time. The "L" just isn't as consistently useful. The subway is a victim of its own success and has some work to do now to address the sheer quantity of people riding it. But let's not ignore that it is just a way more useful and comprehensive transit system.
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There is a real problem when it is either/or, maintenance or expansion to needed destinations. Both are needed, regular maintenance and growth.
When it becomes either/or, it betrays either a lack of financial support now or a lack of proper maintenance for a long time before so the backlog is far more expensive than it ought to be.
When it becomes either/or, it betrays either a lack of financial support now or a lack of proper maintenance for a long time before so the backlog is far more expensive than it ought to be.
I live in the NY Metro area. One of the biggest reasons I never wanted to work in NYC, though not the only one, has been the transportation system. It's bad enough that we have a good deal of traffic in the area. At least when I'm in my car I can run the heat or the AC as needed. But NYC has become harder and harder to deal with. During the warmer months it smells of garbage in midtown. The subways are constantly breaking down now. It's uncomfortable during the hot weather and not so hot weather. It's difficult to understand the announcements. I travelled in Europe and was more confident on public transportation in a foreign country than I am in a place I've grown up in.
If our governor and the mayors of NYC want to keep NYC as a destination, a workplace, and a decent place to live they need to start to put money into upgrading our transportation in and around the area. You don't know how many people will not take jobs in and around NYC because of the mess you call a transportation system.
If our governor and the mayors of NYC want to keep NYC as a destination, a workplace, and a decent place to live they need to start to put money into upgrading our transportation in and around the area. You don't know how many people will not take jobs in and around NYC because of the mess you call a transportation system.
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Now tell us how you've solved the violence and school performance problems!
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I guess Emanuel thinks he can compete as a viable candidate for President and go up against Cuomo? Good luck with that (and to be clear, neither has a prayer).
I use the systems in Chicago and NYC quite a bit. Although everything Mayor Emanuel says is true, the NYC system actually takes you to more places across the city and beyond. I would rather travel on a rickety system that takes me where I need to go than be forced to buy a car because of the limited reach of the service (in the northern and western parts of the city). Message to Rahm: Chicagoans in the northern parts of the city use O'Hare too.
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Mr. Mayor,
Congratulations on the success of Chicago's elevated train. I only wish that I could have met with you prior to your being announced as Chief of Staff to President Obama. You definitely needed to know about American invented superconducting Maglev. It is a remarkable guided surface transport which was excluded from the High Speed Rail initiative because we could not get the endorsement of a State, Multi-State Consortium or Amtrak, required by law. It was a frustrating experience.
Why is the system invented by James Powell and Gordon Danby better than other mass transit Count the ways:
1. In contrast to L, it is very quiet--inside and out. I love Chicago (the food is great) but the L is VERY noisy. Magnetically Levitated vehicles are guided but they don't touch the rails. They brake by changing the frequency of the AC current in the levitating guideway conductors embedded in polymer concrete panels.
2. Since the vehicles don't touch rails or the guideway, there is no rolling friction and the maintenance and operating costs are minuscule compared to steel-wheels & the frictionless system is lighter (no heavy rail carriages). Fares can be much less because it uses 1/13th the electricity required by conventional electric motors.
3. 2nd generation Maglev is more capable. It can carry freight trucks for 10 cents per ton mile and electronically switch. In 1992, Senator Moynihan proposed a National Maglev Network (see www.magneticglide.com for concept)
Congratulations on the success of Chicago's elevated train. I only wish that I could have met with you prior to your being announced as Chief of Staff to President Obama. You definitely needed to know about American invented superconducting Maglev. It is a remarkable guided surface transport which was excluded from the High Speed Rail initiative because we could not get the endorsement of a State, Multi-State Consortium or Amtrak, required by law. It was a frustrating experience.
Why is the system invented by James Powell and Gordon Danby better than other mass transit Count the ways:
1. In contrast to L, it is very quiet--inside and out. I love Chicago (the food is great) but the L is VERY noisy. Magnetically Levitated vehicles are guided but they don't touch the rails. They brake by changing the frequency of the AC current in the levitating guideway conductors embedded in polymer concrete panels.
2. Since the vehicles don't touch rails or the guideway, there is no rolling friction and the maintenance and operating costs are minuscule compared to steel-wheels & the frictionless system is lighter (no heavy rail carriages). Fares can be much less because it uses 1/13th the electricity required by conventional electric motors.
3. 2nd generation Maglev is more capable. It can carry freight trucks for 10 cents per ton mile and electronically switch. In 1992, Senator Moynihan proposed a National Maglev Network (see www.magneticglide.com for concept)
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"First, we put reliability ahead of expansion."
Interesting thought. What would the NY subway system look like if all of the funds spent on the Second Avenue subway and the Hudson Yards extension has been dedicated to system upgrades? Not as good for photo ops for the Governor and Mayor, but perhaps a better system for most of us.
Interesting thought. What would the NY subway system look like if all of the funds spent on the Second Avenue subway and the Hudson Yards extension has been dedicated to system upgrades? Not as good for photo ops for the Governor and Mayor, but perhaps a better system for most of us.
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Indeed, Chicago is succeeding here. I've relied exclusively on CTA for my commute since high school (across the city from Bucktown to Rogers Park) - and that goes back to when the Brown Line was called "Ravenswood" and the Red Line was "Howard" - AND the cars had windows that opened! To those making "apples to oranges" comparisons re: total volume of commuters: we've seen exponential increase in commuters here in my lifetime as well. We may have a smaller overall system by comparison, but we've certainly had to manage increased ridership and expand/modernize accordingly. Each day I get from my house on the north side neighborhood to my job in Hyde Park; last spring I visited my dad at Rush hospital on my way home between those two. I accomplished all of this with amazing efficiency on Brown, Red, Pink - with shorter commute times than you'd imagine. Note to Rahm: Thank you for the transportation improvements. I look forward to your editorial re: successfully solving the gang violence problem.
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For some reason the statement that "the trains run on time," always seems a little sinister. Nonetheless, congratulations to the L for their punctuality. Next up, the budget and the violence.
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It's really unfair comparing Chicago's system to NYC's. It's not nearly as complicated. There are so many more variables— and more people in NYC.
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Chicago deserves kudos for getting something right. So, kudos to Chicago, Mayor Emanuel (for trains, anyway) and the "L".
It should be noted, though, that while NYC has its serious problems -- serious enough that Gov. Cuomo has declared a "state of emergency" -- NYC nevertheless is not bankrupt. Chicago and indeed Illinois itself are not bankrupt only because they say they're not. Separately and similarly, Chicago's education system is not bankrupt only because its custodians refuse to accept that it is despite the evidence that presents itself every year.
So, it's good to see that Chicago can get something right, even though it has a long way to go before getting a street hot dog right.
It should be noted, though, that while NYC has its serious problems -- serious enough that Gov. Cuomo has declared a "state of emergency" -- NYC nevertheless is not bankrupt. Chicago and indeed Illinois itself are not bankrupt only because they say they're not. Separately and similarly, Chicago's education system is not bankrupt only because its custodians refuse to accept that it is despite the evidence that presents itself every year.
So, it's good to see that Chicago can get something right, even though it has a long way to go before getting a street hot dog right.
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Like the literal piles of garbage that stack up on NY sidewalks, the hot dogs are pure trash.
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@Ted
Good going. Is this supposed to be an argument for what makes Chicago so special?
Good going. Is this supposed to be an argument for what makes Chicago so special?
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I think the article is right on the money. Chicago does has a really good system. I think the CTA does a good job considering the budge constraints that they have. Here in Las Vegas we have virtually no mass transit system except for limited monorail service. The federal government will not come to the rescue of Chicago or New York or anywhere else. The money has to come from the state and local governments who have limited taxing abilities.
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Now maybe Mr. Emanuel can do something about Chicago's grotesque murder rate, compared to New York's. Give me the Big Apple any day.
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It just like Rahm to try to take credit for the one thing in Chicago that works just as well as it did before he got here.
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Now, if you can get the murder rate down it will be a pleasant summer.
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Chicago's public train system is referred to as the "el" short for "elevated", because many of the trains operate in a elevated capacity, above street level.
"El" not "L".
"El" not "L".
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You're right, it is short for elevated, but it actually is L and not El -- this always seemed strange to me, too, but L is correct.
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I live in Chicago. Nobody calls it the 'EL'. :) its the L
It's actually referred to as the 'L'
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Snarky snippets of negativity. Potshots at Emanuel. So easy to do. Chicago's subway and L cars carry thousands and thousands of passengers daily. It's a phenomenon that folks in the suburbs, most cities and rural areas of the country know absolutely nothing about. It's called mass transit. Wish we had more of it in our population centers. We should have continued building these systems in prior decades instead of promoting only one option: the automobile. Commenting on the fiscal mess in Illinois and crime in the city -- oh, yes, those need to be dealt with -- but credit the city for running an invaluable service to the residents and visitors to Chicago. And, by the way, for those of you who have a knee-jerk reaction to any good news from Chicago and from the Mayor, you do understand that a mayor can successfully manage and operate some municipal systems while trying to improve others. As a former Chicago Greeter, I have taken many, many visitors to Chicago from around the world on the CTA's L cars and subway rides and they have all been impressed. So hold off on the attacks on the city and the mayor and have some appreciation for an infrastructure system that is working well. Wish our nation's leaders would turn some of their attention to the infrastructure needs of the 21st century.
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Mayor Emanuel fails to mention that much of Chicago's homeless community live on the train making the cars uninhabitable due to the stench and filth. The train cars reek of urine, the floors are seldom if ever cleaned, and the seats have disgusting stains that prohibit any clean, working person from sitting down. There's no security present, and it isn't uncommon to see the homeless people go between cars to relieve themselves - standing or squatting. Not to mention the vast amount of people who smoke cigarettes and marijuana in the cars. I take the train to work in the morning but the bus home at night because I can't stomach the L twice in one day. Let's not forget, because I live within a half mile of the train, I incurred a 44% property tax increase to cover the cost of the repairs while $1MM+ from the TIF fund went "missing". Perhaps the mayor should take a ride on the Red line for a reality check - I guess it's very easy to boast about public transportation when you have a car and driver take you to work.
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I live next to the red line, and use it frequently. I've never seen or smelled the kind of problems you describe. Yes, the occasionally homeless person, but in 20 years I've never seen someone smoke a cigarette or a joint on a train, nor have I seen anyone relieve themselves.
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funny I moved to Chicago three years ago, take the Red Line every day and only saw a few sleepers. you must be taking it to stations I've never been to and I respect that you have seen what you have seen.
I take the Red line all the time and the cars are clean. I never smell urine. At times a little BO during rush hour. This must occur overnight. Kudos to the CTA workers who do a good job maintaining the CTA cars.
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A pity there aren't more Rahm Emanuels holding public office in the US.
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Every one I know who lives or has lived in England after Margaret Thatcher privatized the rail lines has nothing good to say about it. The evidence we have at this time of privatization, whether of roadways or prisons, is that it does not save money and is more prone to mismanagement and abuse.
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Nice self congratualtion, Il Duce.
Seven lines? New York has that many numbered lines...and sixteen with letter designations.
40 stations? That would cover most, but not all, of the A train.
How's your state budget treating you?
Seven lines? New York has that many numbered lines...and sixteen with letter designations.
40 stations? That would cover most, but not all, of the A train.
How's your state budget treating you?
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So we have nothing to learn from Chicago because it's smaller than NYC? This is one of those responses that turns the rest of the country agains New York.
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@Helene
Oh please-- the rest of America has been against us since the Revolutionary War.
Oh please-- the rest of America has been against us since the Revolutionary War.
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Native New Yorkers do best what all native New Yorkers have always done, proclaim loudly and long to the superlativeness of their existence. Their stink is not only the best stink, but it also puts anyone else's stink to shame. They are by definition the stink by which all other stinks must now, and forever more, be measured. My hat's off to you. Just one thought I'll leave with you. It costs me $2.50 to get to the airport (either one) from my house when I fly to NYC. When I arrive at LGA, well .... you know the story on your end.
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M60 bus goes directly to LGA. It's Select Bus Service, which means faster service. It's $2.75.
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Great story, bro. Unfortunately, because you live in Chicago, nobody cares.
PS: It costs $2.75 in NYC to get to the airport on public transportation. Enjoy the quarter you saved to not live in the greatest city in the U.S.......
PPS: Good luck avoiding being homicided today.
PS: It costs $2.75 in NYC to get to the airport on public transportation. Enjoy the quarter you saved to not live in the greatest city in the U.S.......
PPS: Good luck avoiding being homicided today.
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Kind of reminds me of a certain native New Yorker who just relocated to DC, eh?
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So, you are saying you cannot modernize and expand at the same time?
If your city had focused on improving current infrastructure and expanding service to Western suburbs like Naperville currently served by inefficient METRA, you would have claimed some bragging rights. But then, you are the head honcho of a city mired in crime and deep in red ink.
You are not persuasive.
If your city had focused on improving current infrastructure and expanding service to Western suburbs like Naperville currently served by inefficient METRA, you would have claimed some bragging rights. But then, you are the head honcho of a city mired in crime and deep in red ink.
You are not persuasive.
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As a Native New Yorker now living in Chicago...the CTA for me wins hands down! Something about riding in those 'L' cars weaving through the buildings is esthetically beautiful. In NYC only Queens and Brooklyn still have elevated lines, which is too bad.
I try to avoid any CTA line that is underground, like the Red or Blue line. Regardless of whether in NYC or Chicago they reek of urine and don't provide the rider with a visually pleasing vista.
I try to avoid any CTA line that is underground, like the Red or Blue line. Regardless of whether in NYC or Chicago they reek of urine and don't provide the rider with a visually pleasing vista.
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Well yippee-zippee Rahm. Now work on being able to walk down Michigan Avenue without being harassed by aggressive panhandlers or--much worse.
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I'm not whining, now, just pointing out something vital to the next stage of mass transit in Chicago. The CTA train system does not unite our neighborhoods. It is an antiquated funnel that connects various city destinations to the loop (where a minuscule percentage of the population lives). Compare this to any great subway system in the world: criss-crossing lines connect stations so that you always know you can get from point A to point B with one or two quick train changes. In Chicago you usually have to go down to the loop to go back down (or up) to another neighborhood. The buses are agonizingly slow, and stop every block. Bad connectors. It takes me more than an hour to get from the north side to Logan Square. We need criss-crossing lines, either trains or dedicated speed bus lines linking our communities horizontally. l live in the city but usually drive everywhere (or bike or walk in good weather). Pity.
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Connections are a problem. In nice weather, divvy has been a great help. But in bad weather, it presents problems. not everyone can afford an Uber/Lyft for the gaps.
As I understand Mayor Emmanuel's Op-Ed, Chicago had decided, perhaps over past decades, to keep what it already has--sort of an infrastructure--rather than attempting to expand. Common sense would suggest to focus mass transit on the close-in area, and encourage various feeder-links, to be built be local counties; but, with overall coordination.
Extending an ancient system, rather than focusing on maintaining the close-in nucleus, just transforms that molehill into a larger, and larger, mountain.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
Extending an ancient system, rather than focusing on maintaining the close-in nucleus, just transforms that molehill into a larger, and larger, mountain.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
The line to O'Hare Airport was an expansion.
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Mussolini got the trains to run on time. You're in good company. But how's that murder rate doing?
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Rahm obviously doesn't live in my Chicago. The trains on the RedLine smell of stale urine, or worse, are badly overcrowded, under-ventilated and often can't accommodate those of us who depend on them for transportation. The traffic downtown is impossible, and there are no longer traffic cops or traffic aides to manage the gridlock. I can't commute even by motorcycle because the traffic is so bad. Neither Rahm nor anyone charged with managing the trains or the buses ever rides them, so they have no idea of the actual conditions. They certainly don't put anywhere near sufficient resources into cleaning and maintaining the trains. Yet this city and this state are black holes for money.
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It is beyond depressing to read of superior service in Chicago and Paris and who knows where else, and be stuck with the NYCTA system, including the LIRR. There are no excuses other than corruption and incompetence up and down the chain of command. I fault Mike Bloomberg as well for not making the system a priority, and instead focusing on bike lanes and other issues he felt he could directly control. Housing, jobs, schools - all should take a back seat to public transportation, which undergirds and supports the city.
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I too, fault Mie Bloomberg for doing nothingabout our mass transit system ... But then again, I also blame him for that unprecedented third term as Mayor in which he continued to do nothing about it...
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While the mayor's OpEd points out some positive aspects of our city's transit strategy, his criticism of privatization is a bit hypocritical. He privatized the Ventra fair card system of the L among many other aspects of Chicago's infrastructure. Chicago has shed thousands of city workers in favor contracting to for-profit companies which pay low wages, provide little stability and few if any benefits for workers.
This article is instructive.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17533/how_to_sell_off_a_city
This article is instructive.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17533/how_to_sell_off_a_city
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Reading these comments, I'm reminded that NY truly is the home of Trump. Emanuel can't say one good thing about Chicago without the obligatory juvenile insults and falsehoods. The CTA isn't entirely above ground, it isn't too oriented towards the lake, and while it is smaller than the MTA it also has less resources. NY is bigger than Chicago...cool. What is it about NYers sensitivities with size?
Then there are the "yeah well what about the murders" comments, which seemingly and factually have nothing to do with...trains. For the many that are unaware, Chicago isn't a lawless wasteland as your favorite son would have you believe - there are 5-6 neighborhoods that are and have been chronically underserved, neglected, and hit by segregation for over 40 years. It is in those areas that people suffer the most, and it is rightly a shame for the city. Add in a flow of illegal guns from our VPs state, and you have the current situation. But let's not pretend that what I just described is isolated to Chicago (except for being anywhere near Indiana). Please. Crime is down for NY at the same time that you can't buy a house for less than a million bucks. What a surprise.
You could say that these comments are as tasteless and flimsy as your pizza.
Then there are the "yeah well what about the murders" comments, which seemingly and factually have nothing to do with...trains. For the many that are unaware, Chicago isn't a lawless wasteland as your favorite son would have you believe - there are 5-6 neighborhoods that are and have been chronically underserved, neglected, and hit by segregation for over 40 years. It is in those areas that people suffer the most, and it is rightly a shame for the city. Add in a flow of illegal guns from our VPs state, and you have the current situation. But let's not pretend that what I just described is isolated to Chicago (except for being anywhere near Indiana). Please. Crime is down for NY at the same time that you can't buy a house for less than a million bucks. What a surprise.
You could say that these comments are as tasteless and flimsy as your pizza.
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As a former Chicagoan and 9-year New Yorker, I couldn't agree more. NYC is a great city, but to act like we have crime figured out and nothing to learn from anywhere else is the height of arrogance. The problem with some of my fellow New York residents is that they hate to have to think that there are other parts of the country that might be doing something better than us, because then they'd have to challenge their resolutely held belief that New York is the only place in the U.S. worth living. To all of the people deriding Chicago's crime, just imagine if NJ had the unregulated gun market that Indiana has. And recollect that NYC used to be a scary place to walk the streets throughout the boroughs, before Giuliani and Bloomberg pushed gentrification move the problems of crime and poverty to the outskirts of the city and other parts of the state. And think that even though NYC has arguably done better economically than Chicago, we didn't use some of that wealth to invest in our rapid transit system. It's pretty easy to go dismiss people who have rolled up their sleeves and solved some problems because they didn't solve all problems, but it gets us nowhere.
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WAIT a minute. What you seem to forget (or, possibly never knew in the first place), is that there is no great love for Donald Trump here in New York City -- Which is why you NEVER saw him campaign here, why he didn't win any of the vote here, and why he only begrudgingly comes back.
Another thing.
New York is the LARGEST city in the U.S. -- so don't even try to make any comparisons... And sure, it may be expensive, but for the most part, you don't have to fear paying for it with your life!
Another thing.
New York is the LARGEST city in the U.S. -- so don't even try to make any comparisons... And sure, it may be expensive, but for the most part, you don't have to fear paying for it with your life!
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As a New Yorker living in Chicago, I must object to your assault on our pizza, which is thin-crust as pizza ought to be and not a glorified open-face calzone. Otherwise I must agree with you entirely. Thank you.
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ok. i'm glad you can find something to brag about. now, what are you doing about the crime rate, the terrible schools and the underfunded public pension system?
Lane Tech, Peyton, Jones High. These schools are at least in the top 10% of high schools in the country. Some Chicago schools may be terrible but there are nationally ranked schools as well.
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Unfortunately those schools all seem to be in affluent downtown or north side white communities.
Looking forward to Rahm's next article about how they reduced and eliminated the outrageous murder rate in Chicago. Honestly. I really want to read that column by Rahm.
Well, they're certainly not overcrowded with the people shot or detained in an undisclosed torture chamber by the Chicago police.
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Kudos to Chicago for an efficient, clean and comprehensive mass transit system ... far, far better than ours in Toronto. Whatever problems Chicago has, mass transit isn't one of them.
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Taking a shot (pun intended) at the President regarding Chicago's violence is making the President a straw man for the mayor's failure to keep the city's residents safe. I guess with the reliable trains, mourners can be on time for the hundreds of funerals due to the out-of-control violence.
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I'm sure the fact that the trains run on time is a great comfort to those surrounded by high crime and one of the poorest state economies in the nation.
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yes, actually, transportation affects our lives every day, multiple times a day, so you're right, it's a great comfort to have something we can rely on
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@Ells, stories of our demise are greatly exaggerated. Politicking by selective "facts" always creates interesting viewpoints. As Mark Twain said, "There's three kinds of lies. Lies. Damn lies. And statistics." Come for a visit sometime, I dare you.
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Good article, Rham. It's always been a mystery to me why the Brown line didn't continue another mile or so to connect to the Blue Line. As is, there's no way for people on the North East quarter of the city to go across town, or get to O'Hare. (Everyone takes a cab.) Another mile of Brown Line would fix this. If you're reading this, I hope you take it under consideration.
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Gee, he didn't boast about the Chicago Public Schools or all the unsolved murders on the South Side. Where are the mayor's inspired solutions for those?
Wow!!! So many mean and negative comments.
I love Chicago (and New York , Washington, DC, Philadelphia, etc.). Guess I'm just one of those "urban elites" although I was born and raised on a farm.
Our country is going through a very bad time right now. Personally I'm pleased to read something positive and applaud the city of Chicago for what they are doing. This is one of the few feel good news stories to come out in the "Time of Trump".
Go Chicago! Go Cubs!
I love Chicago (and New York , Washington, DC, Philadelphia, etc.). Guess I'm just one of those "urban elites" although I was born and raised on a farm.
Our country is going through a very bad time right now. Personally I'm pleased to read something positive and applaud the city of Chicago for what they are doing. This is one of the few feel good news stories to come out in the "Time of Trump".
Go Chicago! Go Cubs!
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You seem to forget that this is a New York newspaper.
So, of course New Yorkers are going to come out swinging in defense.
What else did you expect?
Let's go Yankees!
Let's go Mets!
So, of course New Yorkers are going to come out swinging in defense.
What else did you expect?
Let's go Yankees!
Let's go Mets!
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So what if finally the trains run on time? In europe the trains have been running on time for almost 50 years. In particular, the Paris Metro and suburban trains are on time and one never hase to wait more than 5 minutes. We are far behind the rest of the First World countries, so it is pathetic for Mr Emanuel to brag.
Rahm Emanuel, former Chief of Staff for Barack Obama and Mayor of Chicago, is stumping for a federal infrastructure funding from Donald J. Trump. Ha! I hate to break this to you Rahm: Your transit system could run on golden rails and provide a leprechaun to every third rider and it wouldn't make any difference. You'll be lucky if "privatization" doesn't actively involve ripping up rail line. They might twist your tracks for good measure too. If past experience is any indicator, Mr. Emanuel just made things worse by attaching his name to the idea. Make no mistake: Chicago is going to take a beating under this administration.
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The 4/5/6 carries 1.3 million riders each weekday, more than the combined transit ridership of San Francisco, Chicago, and Boston. http://www.pcac.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/executive-summary-FINAL-2...
even more staggering the MTA system carries more passengers then the next 16 largest public transportation systems combined. http://keepnyontrack.org/#slide/4
While I agree with much of what Mr. Emmanuel states taking a dig at the MTA struggles to highlight the CTA's success is misguided, evidences his lack of knowledge of their relative scale, and only diminishes his message which gets to the truth of what ails mass transit and most infrastructure in the US. The failure is not for a lack of resources, ability, innovation, or know how. The failure is the lack of political courage and leadership to implement these resources for the good of the country at the expense of those who can afford to lobby, sway, and purchase politicians.
even more staggering the MTA system carries more passengers then the next 16 largest public transportation systems combined. http://keepnyontrack.org/#slide/4
While I agree with much of what Mr. Emmanuel states taking a dig at the MTA struggles to highlight the CTA's success is misguided, evidences his lack of knowledge of their relative scale, and only diminishes his message which gets to the truth of what ails mass transit and most infrastructure in the US. The failure is not for a lack of resources, ability, innovation, or know how. The failure is the lack of political courage and leadership to implement these resources for the good of the country at the expense of those who can afford to lobby, sway, and purchase politicians.
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Mayor Emmanuel does not argue the MTA lacks ability or know how.
Rather he argues MTA's leadership, a board headed by the Governor rather than the Mayor is not best for NYC.
Rather he argues MTA's leadership, a board headed by the Governor rather than the Mayor is not best for NYC.
The Chicago Transit Authority's jurisdiction covers a core area of 3.5 million people, whereas the MTA covers 19.5 million across the NY region. CTA ridership is around a half billion trips per year, which is proportionally close to the over 3 billion trips the entire MTA does, considering the relative size of the population served. What I'm saying is that relative to resources, population and budgets, the job in Chicago is equally difficult. The weather is harsher more often as well.
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Relative scale has little to do with it, at least not in the way that you think. The way that scale impacts this situation in reality is that the organisation of NYC Subway is so large that everyone is pigeonholed into doing one thing forever, hence you never learn anything working there... then they get promoted beyond their area of expertise and clam up. At CTA, managers are moved around so that they gain broad knowledge.
CTA's ridership may be a very small fraction of New York's, but their track network is fully 30% that of New York, and CTA also runs higher frequencies than New York does.
CTA's ridership may be a very small fraction of New York's, but their track network is fully 30% that of New York, and CTA also runs higher frequencies than New York does.
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Here's where an exchange of information and notes could be very useful for both cities. Chicago could help New York to better manage its mass transit system, and New York could assist Chicago with reducing its level of gang violence.
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This is an article or op-ed about public investment (taxes) in infrastructure. It argues that there is big return on such investments, and that the return is a public good, too. It also argues AGAINST the he claim that only the private sector can successfully build and maintain infrastructure. Therefore, Emanuel argues, there is no public benefit to give a profit to private entities to build and maintain infrastructure. That's just another give-away to corporate America and investors.
If you want to comment about baseball, guns, or personalities, invoke Mussolini, or whatever, at least try to make a connection to Emanuel's argument.
Thanks
If you want to comment about baseball, guns, or personalities, invoke Mussolini, or whatever, at least try to make a connection to Emanuel's argument.
Thanks
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Also don't forget, the trains get people to their jobs. If people can't afford cars how would they get to work?
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Rahm, Rahm, Rahm. Do you not remember the last politician to brag about making the trains run on time? Things didn't work out too well for him. Maybe you should focus on a different accomplishment.
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Like what?
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Mass transit needs to have have enough personnel and rolling stock to service two rush hours a day. It is time that such systems be seen as a crucial element of infrastructure which taxpayers need to help pay for in order to keep the economy of a city, region and the country going.
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The CTA is generally safe, efficient and effective, but the city it serves is definitely not any of those things. What good is a public transit system if the public body it serves is rapidly losing population, is basically insolvent, has an improving but still awful public school system, and has sections that are more violent than any war zone?
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"more violent than any war zone"?
I drive all over the city all the time and I think I would have noticed this. I've never been shot at in Austin, Garfield Park, Lawndale, Englewood, etc. The violence in those areas is very targeted. To be sure, it's not acceptable and stray bullets can hit unintended targets, but to act as if these neighborhoods are like war zones is not helpful. It doesn't reflect reality of day-to-day life for people who live there and it doesn't help us find a solution.
I drive all over the city all the time and I think I would have noticed this. I've never been shot at in Austin, Garfield Park, Lawndale, Englewood, etc. The violence in those areas is very targeted. To be sure, it's not acceptable and stray bullets can hit unintended targets, but to act as if these neighborhoods are like war zones is not helpful. It doesn't reflect reality of day-to-day life for people who live there and it doesn't help us find a solution.
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I've had a number of friends who've driven through actual war zones (i.e., Green Zone in Baghdad) without getting shot at either. I don't think that's the correct standard. Next time you're driving through Englewood, you may want to stop and ask the people who live there if they think it is a war zone or not. Their day-to-day life is severely limited by the ongoing shooting wars in their neighborhoods.
And I absolutely think it helps to find a solution when you acknowledge the problem and take forceful steps to address it, rather than focusing on investments in the CTA.
And I absolutely think it helps to find a solution when you acknowledge the problem and take forceful steps to address it, rather than focusing on investments in the CTA.
It's like comparing the NY Yankees to a minor league AA baseball team. More than 70% of Chicagoans commute by car. The CTA is simply not a vital piece of transportation infrastructure. It could shut down, and the vast majority of Chicago would still get to work.
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Where exactly did you get this data? In 2016, overall CTA ridership was 497,704,252, so it's ridiculous to suggest that it is "not a vital piece of transportation infrastructure."
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/CTA-Ridership-Annual-Board...
https://data.cityofchicago.org/Transportation/CTA-Ridership-Annual-Board...
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@Jose
All very impressive, but if you want to talk sheer numbers, there's really no comparison with NYC ridership which keeps increasing -- the unfortunate thing is, the system can't keep up.
All very impressive, but if you want to talk sheer numbers, there's really no comparison with NYC ridership which keeps increasing -- the unfortunate thing is, the system can't keep up.
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And, in Chicago, the city is on a tax craze.
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To the negative commenters: Go ahead and criticize Chicago for what you don't like about it, but can you not also acknowledge that they're doing something right? And maybe learn from what they've done? Or does someone have to be perfect before we listen?
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Sorry, friend. In this case, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
What works in Chicago won't necessarily work in New York.
What works in Chicago won't necessarily work in New York.
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MC, thanks for the support. Chicago is doing many things right and those who have not yet visited, have no veracity to criticize. Those who do choose to visit will be impressed. It is a shame that many New Yorkers apparently believe they are too big to learn something from the Second City. Hence, their transit system is decrepit and citizens are suffering.
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"What works in Chicago won't necessarily work in New York."
Like investing in your city's rapid transit system?
Like investing in your city's rapid transit system?
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Dear Governor Emanuel, I have been to Chicago many times and I enjoy taking the train to Wrigley field from my daughters apartment. The trains do run well and the subway riders are actually polite. However, the Chicago train system just does not have the charm and the edge of the New York City subway system. I will always prefer the 6 train over the red line.
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He's a mayor, not a governor, but I hear you. Chicago's train system is much smaller than NYCs, (though the red line is a single line that moves 60% of the Chicago el riders which still kind of blows me away as a fact--so you picked the biggest). I moved to Chicago decades ago from NYC and Chicago's L seemed kind of like a toy to me. But I have seen Chicago invest an incredible amount in the trains over the last 10 years and it does show. I have a fondness for the subway in NYC (which I rode when I lived there many years ago) and hope that ten years from now you are thinking "I remember when they started fixing this". He's right--investment makes it much, much better. It's a better system now than it was when I moved here back in the day and (since I rely on it) I am happy with that. I visited NYC a few months back and (as always) rode the subway. Even with my fondness for the Lex line, I could see the problems. Here's hoping you get the investment you need.
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That curve at Whitlock Avenue always scared the daylights out of me!
If you enjoy the charm and edge of public transportation, you can try the #36 bus in Chicago. The drivers are patient, the riders are polite, and the whole spectrum of ridership get along just fine. The #36 is my preferred transportation to my dentist.
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At least Rahm accomplished one thing! The city is bankrupt, has the highest murder rate in the country and his friends are enriching themselves. Rahm seems to be hanging his legacy on something of consequence, trains run in time. Typical Urban Elite, disconnected from reality.
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Here is something that works. But for you it is more important to point out what doesn't work. It is also important to call people names.
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Chicago does not have the highest murder rate in the country. It's actually very low in comparison to the number of residents in Chicago. St. Louis and Memphis have murder rates that are 10x that of Chicago. In fact according to FBI statistics Chicago is not even in the top 10 most dangerous cities in the USA. While it's true that the pockets of the South and West Side have experienced higher crime rates, it still pales in comparison to other cities. While there is much economic disparity in the city the North Side and West Loop are experiencing an economic boom. Shiny new skyscrapers are propping up, the Riverwalk is complete, and even the South Loop is completely reinventing itself. I'd still rank Chicago's transit system low in comparison to Paris, Berlin, Hong Kong and London. But for a major US city it's one of the best in the country.
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Of course, you don't live in Chicago and are susceptible to right wing propaganda about our city and not the facts.
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The trains run on time! Wasn't that also a boast from a long dead European dictator?
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Emanuel should focus his energies on solving Chicago's fiscal mess rather than telling us about his subway system.
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Our fiscal mess is mostly due to the Republican Governor, who refuses to compromise on the budget because he does not want the rich to pay their fair share in taxes. Sound familiar?
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NYC constantly runs half-full (at best) trains that create the infamous "train traffic." Boston's system was better 20 years ago and it is not close.
Does NYC have train dispatchers?
Does NYC have train dispatchers?
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I'd be interested in knowing when, and where you've ever come across a half-full train here.
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Interesting that the Mayor used the same verbiage touting his mass transit system as did another leader decades ago: Benito Mussolini
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This article should run next to the one about the impending junk status of Illinois' debt and the fact that they haven't passed a budget in 3 years.
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The trains run on time in Chicago. You are 5 times more likely than in NYC to get shot while walking to the trains, but they run on time. Great job Mr. 9% approval rating Rahm.
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Not true. Get your facts straight. What is the point of negative comments without any real knowledge of the facts. Chicago is a beautiful, vibrant city- people trying hard to get along and live peaceful lives. All major cities have serious problems, its a constant struggle to deal with sources of conflict. The residents of the city have to try at least, not to make things worse.
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Privatizing infrastructure investment- wrongheaded is correct! Like clean water, sewage disposal and other essentials, we don't need return on investment; we need things to work !!
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I lived in New York for 12 years and rode the subway daily, before moving to Chicago last year. Rahm is actually probably underselling how much better the CTA is run and maintained. It's more reliable, cleaner, and modernized. And in the rare instance when something goes wrong, the conductors actually make announcements as if you're a human being, not a wooden dummy that MTA employees are apparently convinced they are carrying around. It's a night and day difference. Every single morning when I board the L, I thank God I never have to deal with the MTA ever again. There is no quick fix for the massive and worsening transit issues in the NYC area. Businesses would we wise to consider this as they plan for the future. Chicago is still the city that works.
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Does it run all night, every night?
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I agree with RCC. I was born here in Chicago and I use public transportation quite often when it makes sense for my trip. My son is also an avid public transportation user - and he never found the need for a driver's license!
Over the years, the buses and El trains have improved noticeably. The recorded navigation messages are the best in the world (having sampled NYC, Berlin, Zurich, Santiago) - clear, no buzz or crackle in the speakers, enough redundancy that even foreign language speakers can understand after a few stops. Just top quality.
I have an MTA card which I use when visiting my sister in NYC. The 'E' line works fine for trips to/from my sister's apartment from either JFK or LGA. A bit less convenient than the Chicago Blue Line, but I haven't experienced any delays. It has been about a year since I visited my sister. I should go soon. Perhaps an adventure..
Over the years, the buses and El trains have improved noticeably. The recorded navigation messages are the best in the world (having sampled NYC, Berlin, Zurich, Santiago) - clear, no buzz or crackle in the speakers, enough redundancy that even foreign language speakers can understand after a few stops. Just top quality.
I have an MTA card which I use when visiting my sister in NYC. The 'E' line works fine for trips to/from my sister's apartment from either JFK or LGA. A bit less convenient than the Chicago Blue Line, but I haven't experienced any delays. It has been about a year since I visited my sister. I should go soon. Perhaps an adventure..
If they could only balance their budget.....
In between homicides the trains run on time. Just make sure you never disembark to the surrounding war zone. Way to go Rahm. Obfuscate the mass murders and talk about choo choos.
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Have you ever been to Chicago? Stop getting your news from Trump.
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The city is broke. The crime rate is out of control. This is not the time to pat yourself on the back.
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Actually, the crime rate is lower than it has been in the past. Chicago is 23rd in per capita murders, and would be lower if their gun laws had not been gutted by the NRA.
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@Dada
That's a mighty big "if" when talking about gun control and the NRA -- remember who's in the White House.
That's a mighty big "if" when talking about gun control and the NRA -- remember who's in the White House.
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'The trains run on time'! What a comfort this must be for people who fear standing near a window or letting their kids out to play!
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@ Robert Mescolotto Merrick N.Y.
If I recall correctly, one of Mussolini's prides was also that he made trains run on time.
If I recall correctly, one of Mussolini's prides was also that he made trains run on time.
I’d be inclined to agree with Rahm Emmanuel’s generally upbeat assessment of Chicago’s transit. I only wish that he’d get out into the world and see what others are doing before starting to rub NY’s nose in it.
I spent a week last year in Munich and was delighted with the public train systems. It’s frequent, smooth, quiet… and comparatively expensive. There I spent 12€ ($13.68 today) to get from the Airport downtown, but admittedly it then gave me access to the full system for 24 hours. In Chicago, getting from Midway downtown only costs $2.25; from O’Hare it’s $5.00.
I’ll disagree with many of the earlier respondents, though, about the quality of the ride. When we returned to Chicago from Munich last summer, the contrast between the train rides couldn’t have been more different. On the train from O’Hare to our downtown apartment, the Chicago train was deafening at times, and we were jostled about so much. I joked to my wife that I felt like we were arriving in a 3rd World country. What a poor impression of Chicago would be created in the mind of a first-time visitor! I was just at O'Hare yesterday evening and had to wait 10 minutes for the doors of the next train to open. Ventilation in this underground station seemed completely absent and I'd estimate the temperature was around 85° F (~30°C).
I spent a week last year in Munich and was delighted with the public train systems. It’s frequent, smooth, quiet… and comparatively expensive. There I spent 12€ ($13.68 today) to get from the Airport downtown, but admittedly it then gave me access to the full system for 24 hours. In Chicago, getting from Midway downtown only costs $2.25; from O’Hare it’s $5.00.
I’ll disagree with many of the earlier respondents, though, about the quality of the ride. When we returned to Chicago from Munich last summer, the contrast between the train rides couldn’t have been more different. On the train from O’Hare to our downtown apartment, the Chicago train was deafening at times, and we were jostled about so much. I joked to my wife that I felt like we were arriving in a 3rd World country. What a poor impression of Chicago would be created in the mind of a first-time visitor! I was just at O'Hare yesterday evening and had to wait 10 minutes for the doors of the next train to open. Ventilation in this underground station seemed completely absent and I'd estimate the temperature was around 85° F (~30°C).
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letting this character go on about his trains is like having madam defarge, should she emerge from her place in fiction, op-ed about her knitting stitches.
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Madame Defarge knits, and her knitting secretly encodes the names of people to be killed.
While Donald Trump laments the $6 Trillion dollars wasted in the Middle East (most notably due the ineptness of George W. Bush) we here in Los Angeles can only lament the ineptness and lack of foresight and the caving in to rich constituents that moved Henry Waxman, California Representative of the 33 District to sink construction of our subway system down one of the most congested corridors (Wilshire Corridor) in America's second most important city. As it is, we'll now have to wait until 2025 before that piece of the subway is finished.
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Everything takes time. I work on the stretch where construction is now underway and am totally in favor of the extension of the Wilshire line. But we always knew it would happen. The truly brilliant achievement in the first wave of subway construction was the long tunnel through the Hollywood Hills. That single infrastructure investment last century, still waiting to be properly exploited, will really start to show its value over the next generation as the San Fernando Valley system develops. I don't even have to work or live in the Valley to see that coming.
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"Rahm Emanuel: In Chicago, the Trains Actually Run on Time"
Hmmm, someone else used to brag about the trains running on time.
Is Rahm trying to compare himself to Il Duce?
Hmmm, someone else used to brag about the trains running on time.
Is Rahm trying to compare himself to Il Duce?
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Rahm,
Now if you can stop the slaughter in your streets, you will be considered the best Mayor in the country.
You and Chicago are an exception to the rule, perhaps it is to your credit, but there has never been a Federal program that wasn't corrupt & inefficient, It is competition in the Private sector that keep prices down, & creates innovation, this cannot be done by the failed lawyers that run our Government.I say this as a Progressive Democrat, who's for Women's Choice , Gay Rights,Planed Parenthood, & last but not least, the Separation of Church & State.
Now if you can stop the slaughter in your streets, you will be considered the best Mayor in the country.
You and Chicago are an exception to the rule, perhaps it is to your credit, but there has never been a Federal program that wasn't corrupt & inefficient, It is competition in the Private sector that keep prices down, & creates innovation, this cannot be done by the failed lawyers that run our Government.I say this as a Progressive Democrat, who's for Women's Choice , Gay Rights,Planed Parenthood, & last but not least, the Separation of Church & State.
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I was at an investor conference in a smaller Midwest city a month ago. A salesman was bragging on a new product they had which was led by a guy named Scott Rechler of RXR Realty, a second or third generation developer in NYC. He has recently been named to the Board of the MTA. Among other things I was told Rechler was an even bigger real estate honcho than Tump.
I was also told I should buy RXR because Rechler would buy real estate where there was not yet a subway but he'd be part of the plan to get the subway extended. Insert eye roll. Seems to me the MTA needs fewer Rechlers, less new and far more maintenance.
I was also told I should buy RXR because Rechler would buy real estate where there was not yet a subway but he'd be part of the plan to get the subway extended. Insert eye roll. Seems to me the MTA needs fewer Rechlers, less new and far more maintenance.
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GREAT . . . the 'El' runs on-time and smooth-as-greazed-lightning, far 'n above one of the most murderous cities in the country.
Keep the suburbanites high and above it all, huh, Dead-Fish?! All while the trapped inner-city victims suffer the plight of a state going bankrupt, and watch as the deadly rival gangs cut down innocents caught in the crossfire of the death 'n destruction, decades in the making under the liberals who run the place.
Another dem-run city hitting the skids.
Keep the suburbanites high and above it all, huh, Dead-Fish?! All while the trapped inner-city victims suffer the plight of a state going bankrupt, and watch as the deadly rival gangs cut down innocents caught in the crossfire of the death 'n destruction, decades in the making under the liberals who run the place.
Another dem-run city hitting the skids.
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You might want to think about what Republicans are doing to this COUNTRY, before placing blame entirely on "another dem-run city hitting the skids".
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this is misinformed.
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As I started reading this article, I was tempted to be snarky (Yes, if I'm alive to board the train, the experience is better in Chi-town). But Mr. Emanuel makes good points, and NYC should take heed. As I wrote in a comment to Mr. Bruni's column yesterday, the NYC subway has been broken since the days I rode it (1972-1988) - admittedly often from Queens, a nether-borough. For the health of the NYC economy, people who work in Manhattan require reliable public transportation from the surrounding boroughs and counties. An investment in public transportation is an investment in the futures of all these residents.
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Chicago does have a good transit system. The city has always been serious about making transportation work. Heck, one mayor was thrown out of office during the years I lived in Chicago simply because he didn't keep the roads plowed well during a record blizzard.
Now about the shootings, the public schools and other issues:...
Now about the shootings, the public schools and other issues:...
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In the words of one of our revered, deserved or not.... Who you crappin? While I grant you the CTA works better than most major public transit systems, the Mayor's article reminds me of the magician's slight of hand trick. Look here, not there! C'mon. Infrastructure? You mean the sale of all of our parking meters and the Skyway? The crumbling bridges and sidewalks away from downtown?
And how broke the City and the quasi governmentals are, with pension obligations they never came close to funding. It gets worse year by year and the day of reckoning will come soon enough. Why does Chicago loose population? Why is there a need to raise existing taxes and invent new ones while downtown flourishes and everyone else suffers. Blow your horn all you want, Mr Emanuel, but you know as well as I that the City is sitting in something deep and its NOT deserved self congratulations for a City perched to thrive in the 21st century.
And how broke the City and the quasi governmentals are, with pension obligations they never came close to funding. It gets worse year by year and the day of reckoning will come soon enough. Why does Chicago loose population? Why is there a need to raise existing taxes and invent new ones while downtown flourishes and everyone else suffers. Blow your horn all you want, Mr Emanuel, but you know as well as I that the City is sitting in something deep and its NOT deserved self congratulations for a City perched to thrive in the 21st century.
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I don't trust anything Rahm Emanuel says after the way he treated the progressive democrats while in the White House. Other commenters have pointed out how he is catering to the wealthier districts in Chicago after closing down dozens of schools in the poorer districts. Is it election time yet?
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Why is the solution always "raise taxes"? New Jersey had a crumbling, worn out infrastructure when the gas tax was among the lowest in the nation and it still has a crumbling, worn out infrastructure now that the gas tax is among the highest in the nation. Fix the damn pothole on my street and then get back to me about taxes!
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Pot holes on your street would usually be fixed by your local government. maybe if there weren't more towns in NJ as there are in California, we would have better infrastructure? Maybe if the federal government actually invested here, instead of taking out tax dollars and spending it on Alabama and Mississippi we would have nice roads. NJ should stop paying federal taxes and use that money to fix this state. Let alabama fix their own roads.
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There are some problems with comparing the two systems: for one, the enormously larger size of the MTA; for another, the fact that the MTA operates not only in adjoining New York counties but also in an adjoining state (CT), for heaven's sake, so it's a hell of an unruly situation—to say nothing of the fact that it runs 24/7/365, further complicating matters. Still, I've ridden the L a lot, and it really is a wonderful and efficient system. I wonder if a good case couldn't be made for running the subway under a separate agency, away from the MTA's other responsibilities; that would help to avoid the most obvious criticism I can think of for not placing it under mayoral control.
Regarding expansions: As you can imagine based on the location under my name, I VERY much appreciate the new 2nd Avenue Subway; I use it every single day and have a vastly better quality of life because of it. Still, building it cost much more than it needed to—hint: the stations, which are unnecessarily cavernous (especially for stations that only serve one line), accounted for a huge portion of the cost—and while the line should obviously continue to extend northward, I don't see why we can't walk and chew the proverbial gum and really bear down on modernizing the signaling and trackage and so on.
The subway is the single most important piece of infrastructure we have; let's treat it as such. And suggestions from Mayor Emanuel (or anyone else) are welcome if they help us get the job done.
Regarding expansions: As you can imagine based on the location under my name, I VERY much appreciate the new 2nd Avenue Subway; I use it every single day and have a vastly better quality of life because of it. Still, building it cost much more than it needed to—hint: the stations, which are unnecessarily cavernous (especially for stations that only serve one line), accounted for a huge portion of the cost—and while the line should obviously continue to extend northward, I don't see why we can't walk and chew the proverbial gum and really bear down on modernizing the signaling and trackage and so on.
The subway is the single most important piece of infrastructure we have; let's treat it as such. And suggestions from Mayor Emanuel (or anyone else) are welcome if they help us get the job done.
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Technically, the agency New York City Transit runs the subway, though it is a subsidiary of the MTA. I can see the argument for putting NYCT more directly under mayoral control. However, the subway shares important infrastructure (like Penn Station) with other MTA services, so coordination still needs to be encouraged.
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@Ben
No matter how you split the hairs of the MTA and NYCT, a large part of the problem lies with the lack of financial support coming from Albany -- which leaves us passengers footing the bill with more frequent fare increases.
No matter how you split the hairs of the MTA and NYCT, a large part of the problem lies with the lack of financial support coming from Albany -- which leaves us passengers footing the bill with more frequent fare increases.
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The CTA effectively is under the Mayor's control who appoints the board. The mayor also makes appointments to the Metra and RTA boards.
I met and married a woman from Sheepshead Bay, spent time on the NYCTA between 1968-1973, and was wowed by the City and the subways.
I met and married a woman from Sheepshead Bay, spent time on the NYCTA between 1968-1973, and was wowed by the City and the subways.
I use the MTA and CTA with some regularity. I live along the Brown line in Chicago (not too far from the Mayor). While slow, the CTA Brown line is usually on pace with the drive downtown, and it's almost always a pleasant ride. The stations and technology overall are vastly superior to the MTA. I ride the MTA wondering if they're constantly being sued for ADA violations. And airport service is something I took for granted until dealing with LGA on a regular basis. NYC's airports and corresponding transportation are a stunning embarrassment, a monument to government mismanagement if I ever saw one. That said, the CTA does not serve everyone equally. Many north side neighborhoods are cut off from western neighborhoods only a few miles away by virtue of the lack of direct connection between the eastern and western lines. Cue the insufferable Uber traffic clogging the most popular neighborhoods. Much more troubling is how the lines still map the racism that cut off the south side and still leave our most marginalized neighborhoods cut off from efficient train service (infrequent busses are very poor substututes). Even Hyde Park, home to University of Chicago, isn't served by a direct CTA line downtown. Again cue the proliferation of Uber...cabs don't reliably serve the south side. So yes, Mr. Mayor, we're doing a lot of things right, and I'd rather ride CTA most days. But we are still doing it on the backs of residents who need efficient, affordable public transit most.
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Metra falls under the political radar in Chicago, and more locally in Hyde Park and the South Side. A purchase of Metra Electric train service by the CTA could add rapid transit lines to the system, provide frequent service, and improve utilization with CTA fares and transfers without costly conversion or a parallel extension. This would be a lot better for the South Side than allowing further reductions in Metra service unsupported by the City.
There is an area between the Red and Green north-south lines and the Orange-Midway southwest line that has no train, but Hyde Park is served by Green Line. I have used it to get to U. of Chicago.
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It is infuriating that to get from the Northeast Side (e.g., Rogers Park or Ravenswood) to the Northwest Side (e.g., Jefferson or Norwood Park), one must take one train all the way into the Loop and then take another all the way back Northwest--turning a 20-minute drive into a 1+ hour ride (plus buses at either end).
But to be fair, to get from Brooklyn to Queens by subway, one must go through Manhattan. My husband's commute from Bellerose to Brooklyn College took over 2 hours (and to my E. Flatbush home when we were dating, about 3 hrs). The drive would have been only about 45 minutes. That hasn't changed in 40?years, except the drive has gotten worse and the trains more crowded. And while It's easy to be a Chicagoan with or without a car, it's impossible to be a Manhattanite (or close-in Brooklynite) with one!
But to be fair, to get from Brooklyn to Queens by subway, one must go through Manhattan. My husband's commute from Bellerose to Brooklyn College took over 2 hours (and to my E. Flatbush home when we were dating, about 3 hrs). The drive would have been only about 45 minutes. That hasn't changed in 40?years, except the drive has gotten worse and the trains more crowded. And while It's easy to be a Chicagoan with or without a car, it's impossible to be a Manhattanite (or close-in Brooklynite) with one!
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"The trains run on time!" The proud boast of failing politicians everywhere.
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I find these "apples to oranges" articles frustrating and deceptive. While Chicago certainly has much to be proud of in terms of its subway system, comparing its virtues relative to New York's is not helpful. Yes, Chicago is the second largest subway system but, let's be clear, it is a distant second: the CTA moves 238 million people a year; NYCT moves that many people in about 40 days (6 million/day). So yes, Chicago, know you're doing relatively well. But it might more appropriate for you (and my fellow NYC subway riders) to stick with comparing yourselves to London or Paris or DC.
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But please remember that Paris (and London last time I was there) are not 24 hour systems. NYC subway does so much more than almost any other transit system I've ever been on. The subway is an amazing urban asset, I want to see it get the investment and updating it (and NYCers) deserve.
Yes, but Paris and London are older systems. One of the reasons the MTA is having so many problems is a failure to update vital equipment that should have been replaced years ago. The London Underground avoided this problem by doing the necessary maintenance.
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CTA's ridership is well below New York, but when you compare the size of the track network and the frequencies of service, the track network is a full 30% of New York's, and they run more frequently than New York. The CTA also runs 24 hours on two lines. So, they are comparable in some ways, but not in others. Rahm is correct to laud CTA.
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It's great that your trains run on time, Mayor Emanuel. Congratulations.
Now try working on your city's major problems, such as too many shootings that kill innocent people and police misconduct.
Now try working on your city's major problems, such as too many shootings that kill innocent people and police misconduct.
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Ask Rahm to write about our parking meters.
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Exactly... Those dopes (bribed public officials) gave over to private industry what belonged to the general public. They should all be put in jail.
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Chicago also has beautiful wide streets, almost as if they planned for the automobile instead of horse tracks laid on cow paths....
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This Berwyn resident enthusiastically endorse Emanuel for 2020 with caveats(1,2,3) below:
(1) Extend the Pink Line past 54th (Cicero street grid) to Oak Park Ave. in Berwyn. Right-of-way is ready and righted. Also lean on whoever is managing the park and ride in Cicero (a model republican party controlled enterprise zone city embraced by the national GOP). It seems like the guy running the park and ride has a brother-in-law with a car towing business. Or not.
(2) Do something about that pothole at 16th and Komenski. Or maybe it's at Karlov. I'm not sure, its one of the Lawndale "K" streets between between Kedzie and Kostner.
(3) While the new "L" cars are generally fine, the seats do force you to sit a bit slumped. That's not good for the back.
Other than that all is good.
(1) Extend the Pink Line past 54th (Cicero street grid) to Oak Park Ave. in Berwyn. Right-of-way is ready and righted. Also lean on whoever is managing the park and ride in Cicero (a model republican party controlled enterprise zone city embraced by the national GOP). It seems like the guy running the park and ride has a brother-in-law with a car towing business. Or not.
(2) Do something about that pothole at 16th and Komenski. Or maybe it's at Karlov. I'm not sure, its one of the Lawndale "K" streets between between Kedzie and Kostner.
(3) While the new "L" cars are generally fine, the seats do force you to sit a bit slumped. That's not good for the back.
Other than that all is good.
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You go Rahm! As a Chicago native and someone who mapped all of the Chicago metro transit system as a college student 40 years ago, it is reliant on public - fed and local - private partnership. It is not just the "L" that makes Chicago work, it is also the interconnection with old trains that spread out to the "burbs" and "superburbs".
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Those trains are dam* nice. You can actually get some work done on those.
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I've lived in the Chicago metro area for 30 years. While the city of Chicago train systems work fairly well for getting around, suburban routes are far more sparse, relying on hub (downtown Chicago) and spoke routing. If you want to get between a suburb and the city, it's okay, but if you live and work in a suburban area (as most people do), you drive. There really needs to be way more regional collaboration: the city of Chicago comprises less than a third of the entire metro area.
I will also say that the Chicago el system stations are horrid: dank, malodorous, and filthy. The trains aren't a lot better. You basically never know when a train will arrive, but they do.
On a recent visit to Italy, I was flabbergasted by the transit. Easy, reliable, cheap, and the most low-frills little commuter train from Milan to the suburbs outclassed anything I've ever seen in the US - immaculate, comfortable, quiet.
But that's a whole 'nother issue.
I will also say that the Chicago el system stations are horrid: dank, malodorous, and filthy. The trains aren't a lot better. You basically never know when a train will arrive, but they do.
On a recent visit to Italy, I was flabbergasted by the transit. Easy, reliable, cheap, and the most low-frills little commuter train from Milan to the suburbs outclassed anything I've ever seen in the US - immaculate, comfortable, quiet.
But that's a whole 'nother issue.
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Failure of public agencies to invest in R&D is the primary reason for American transit systems being inferior to European and some Asian systems. If you compare investment in transit R&D (less than 1% of operating budget) to that of say cell phones you will understand why Apple, and others, offer a better cell phone every year while we are still using a transit system designed by our grandparents and built at the time of the corded phone.
Mr. Emanuel your trains may be on time, but they remain too heavy, cost too much to run, waste too much energy, and require a great deal of labor. You can lead the charge by directing 2-3 % of the operating budget to R&D.
Mr. Emanuel your trains may be on time, but they remain too heavy, cost too much to run, waste too much energy, and require a great deal of labor. You can lead the charge by directing 2-3 % of the operating budget to R&D.
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Rahm, Rahm, gotta take credit for something while the murder toll rises.
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Amazing how easy it is to brag about a subway system that only serves rich, people.
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That's a truly ridiculous assertion. I ride the Purple Line from Evanston (a Near North Suburb), and it certainly moves through some pretty well-off communities. But the ridership consists of folks from pretty much every social and economic strata.
When I could no longer afford to maintain an auto, the CTA was a lifeline for me. The trains serve all of Chicago, and by and large, they are doing it pretty well.
When I could no longer afford to maintain an auto, the CTA was a lifeline for me. The trains serve all of Chicago, and by and large, they are doing it pretty well.
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Does Chicago run 24 hours/day? NY might be rainbows and sunshine if it quit at midnight.
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Two major lines run 24 hours: Red Line (the major north-south artery train) and Blue Line (goes southeast from O'Hare to the Loop, then west out past Oak Park). Others close down during the wee hours.
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Your honor - Since you've done such a wonderful job with mass transit in Chicago, perhaps you can turn to those lower priority bugaboos like murder and municipal bankruptcy resulting from unfunded pension liabilities. Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.
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New Yorkers are just grumpy about coming in 2nd place (DC's Metro doesn't even count). Check out the River Walk next time you're in the Loop - another thing that NY and DC can't match
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Oh please. There's no comparison between New York and Chicago when it comes to first place -- they aren't even in the same category.
That said. Good for them if their trains run on time.
That said. Good for them if their trains run on time.
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Nice try Rahm in attempting to change the conversation about how Chicago is a failing city - crime is out of control and the buck stops with your local control. Crime is job one for local government and Chicago is a lethal embarrassment
As a life long NYer and straphanger since the 1960s I have a deep appreciation for the system. I have also ridden systems around the world and they all face far less challenges than the MTA
While I agree that the mayor should step up I can say as a progressive Democrat that De Blasio is not up to the challenge. He simply is in over his head.
Cuomo is a political hack who is grandstanding with his eye apparently on running for President
The biggest problem NYC has is getting quality folks to run for office. Local or state control won't fix the problem without qualified, competent, committed leaders
As a life long NYer and straphanger since the 1960s I have a deep appreciation for the system. I have also ridden systems around the world and they all face far less challenges than the MTA
While I agree that the mayor should step up I can say as a progressive Democrat that De Blasio is not up to the challenge. He simply is in over his head.
Cuomo is a political hack who is grandstanding with his eye apparently on running for President
The biggest problem NYC has is getting quality folks to run for office. Local or state control won't fix the problem without qualified, competent, committed leaders
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Wow. You are so misinformed. Chicago is not a failing city! Quite the opposite.
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I weep when I think of how the New York City rapid transit system has been allow to crumble and decay to the extent it has. Most of Chicago's rapid transit is above ground which makes it easier to maintain and repair. Even so, there is no excuse to the extent that the New York subways have gone to rot and ruin.
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There are important truths interlarded with Mr. Emanuel's Windy City boosterism. The El is imperfect, but it works pretty well, for the reasons the Mayor specifies. BUT--as a long-time resident of both New York and Chicago, I would observe two things:
(1) the age and character of a city's overall infrastructure bear heavily on the reliability of its transit systems. For example, I can remember three major subway problems in NYC due to the implosion of 150-year-old cast iron water mains that flooded the tunnels.
2) as witness the hundreds of bridges across the country that are yielding to age and use, nothing is forever. America suffers from the notion that once something is built, it requires minimal or no maintenance. I suggest that Mr. Emanuel talk a walk under the El where it traverses abandoned or unused tracts. I have observed yard-long scabs of rust peeling off steel pylons that haven't been painted in decades. There's a catastrophe just waiting to happen, Mr. Mayor.
Suppose we re-balanced America's budgetary priorities such that "maintaining the nation" was of equal importance to "defending the nation"? Wouldn't that be amazing! Add to that, "educating the nation," "treating the nation's health," and more...
(1) the age and character of a city's overall infrastructure bear heavily on the reliability of its transit systems. For example, I can remember three major subway problems in NYC due to the implosion of 150-year-old cast iron water mains that flooded the tunnels.
2) as witness the hundreds of bridges across the country that are yielding to age and use, nothing is forever. America suffers from the notion that once something is built, it requires minimal or no maintenance. I suggest that Mr. Emanuel talk a walk under the El where it traverses abandoned or unused tracts. I have observed yard-long scabs of rust peeling off steel pylons that haven't been painted in decades. There's a catastrophe just waiting to happen, Mr. Mayor.
Suppose we re-balanced America's budgetary priorities such that "maintaining the nation" was of equal importance to "defending the nation"? Wouldn't that be amazing! Add to that, "educating the nation," "treating the nation's health," and more...
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Yeah! A program to defend America from the incompetence of the politicians doing stupid stuff.
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After all the news about shootings and killing in Chicago, it is good to be reminded that things actually work in the city.
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Yep. Chicago is doing just great.
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When you shut down 50 schools and can't stop the blood tide in Chicago's streets I bet you want to write about the trains. As a Chicagoan I apologize to other cities for our mayor's holier than thou attitude. We don't like him either.
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I can't believe there's something positive about Chicago in a national newspaper! Ok, it was written by our mayor, but still!
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The US has seen what an incredible disaster for-profit is with regard to essential services like health care. Mass transit should never be allowed to suffer the same fate.
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And how old and how large is the Chicago train system? Gotta compare apples to apple not apples to pine cones, Mr. Emanuel.
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I am amazed that the mayor of a city with Chicago's problems would believe he has the standing to lecture anyone on anything.
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Two improvements that could be learned from Chicago at minimal expense are recorded announcements as to which side of the car the door will be opening and the use of an orchestral chime rather than the tacky electronic beep.
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"Chicago is the largest city in North America to offer 4G wireless throughout its system, "
Duh. It runs above ground. An easier do than underground.
Duh. It runs above ground. An easier do than underground.
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To crow about Chicago's good transportation system while neglecting to mention that Chicago (and Illinois) is essentially bankrupt is the height of hypocrisy. Say hello to junk bond status for a state for the first time in our nation's history. Also please don't mention the new soda tax, on top of the 10% sales tax. Also please don't mention the daily stream of gunshot victims piling up in Chicago's morgues. Move along folks.
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I am sure those killed and injured in #Chicago's ongoing violence and crime, truly appreciate the timelines of their public transport. Maybe it is lousy priorities such as this that played a major role in the outcome of last year's presidential election.
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Most of the gun violence is gang related and the guns come in from Indiana, a Red state with loose gun laws, and might I add, home of the KKK and Mike Pence.
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"Gang related" or not -- dead is dead and killedmis killed -- either way public safety should be a priority over public transportation
Okay, but the exception in Chicago doesn't change that a lot of America's infrastructure is crumbling and certainly not expanding. Public spending has "public" in it and as we know, most Americans enjoying a high income have achieved it 100% through their own hard work and talent, hence feel themselves above the public and feel like they owe the public nothing. Deregulation, defunding of public schools and healthcare, lack of investment in public infrastructure, to me it's all part of the same ugly turn America has made towards little or no solidarity anymore between each other.
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Amen!!!
Or perhaps paying a lot in various taxes makes them think that they have paid enough?
I am not one of Mayor Emanuel's biggest fans, but by God, I do applaud him for taking the time to write this wonderful and upbeat article, showcasing the POSITIVES of Chicago's transit systems. When was the last time ANY mayor wrote such an eloquent and comprehensive essay on his/her city? However, I think comparing New York's issues with ANY other American city is completely unfair. The size of that town coupled with all of those boroughs is overwhelming, to say the least. But like New York, Chicago also has its share of major problems, but then, what city doesn't? The plethora of problems ARE being met with this Mayor and I know he takes those issues extremely seriously. He loves Chicago. I completely agree with his statement that President Trump "should be looking to Chicago as a model for the infrastructure investments and economic growth he wants to replicate across the country". Chicago's transit system does have its moments, like every system in the country does, but when it comes to reliable, safe and clean service, as well as looking ahead with its many expansion and improvement plans, the Chicago Transit Authority and other commuter service is pretty darn awesome. So thank you Mayor Emanuel for taking the time to toot your city's own transit horn. Heck, if you don't, who will? Of all the things that AREN'T working so hot in Chicago, at least getting to and from one's destination on a steady basis is NOT on that "honey do" list of Mayor Emanuel.
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Of course Mr. Emanuel doesn't mention the fiasco of privatizing the fair card system. The privatized Ventra Card has been costly and unreliable.
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Thank you, Mrs. Emmanuel.
Oh please, such silly sarcasm. Just because I'm not a fan doe not mean I cannot appreciate what this man does. Geez, and by the way, the last name is spelled Emanuel. Have a lovely evening riding the Chicago transit system.
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All this is true. But the way the L is laid out now, it concentrates too much mass transit activity to near the lake. To lessen the need for cars, and to expand opportunity to more of the city, I still believe, as I have believed since I arrived here 13 years ago, that an L line should be added to western edge of the city that connects all the lines that run out from The Loop
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Comparing the CTA to the NYC subway system is like comparing a two seater Cessna to a 747.
The NYC system dwarfs any system and it has had a significant impact on the growth of what is arguably the most complex and diversified city in the world.
I applaud Chicago's efforts but let's get real about what the issues and challenges are for all city's---particularly city's like NY that are growing.
The NYC system dwarfs any system and it has had a significant impact on the growth of what is arguably the most complex and diversified city in the world.
I applaud Chicago's efforts but let's get real about what the issues and challenges are for all city's---particularly city's like NY that are growing.
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Fewer passengers due to high murder rate that scares people away from public transport and people leaving a bankrupt state that owes more than it has ever collected in taxes to municipal and state union pensions.
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So what!
The state and city are bankrupt, and more people are murdered in Chicago than in NYC every year even though it has half the population.
The state and city are bankrupt, and more people are murdered in Chicago than in NYC every year even though it has half the population.
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Mayor Emanuel has some interesting proposals and it never hurts to review other cities' successful measures, transportation and otherwise.
But, Chicago and New York are quite different cities. It bears remembering that the MTA's annual ridership is approaching two billion. CTA's is closer to 250 million (and that includes suburban lines as well.) Moreover, CTA is not a 24 hour system.
I suppose it could be worse. At least Mayor Emanuel isn't trying to give New Yorkers advice on "pizza."
But, Chicago and New York are quite different cities. It bears remembering that the MTA's annual ridership is approaching two billion. CTA's is closer to 250 million (and that includes suburban lines as well.) Moreover, CTA is not a 24 hour system.
I suppose it could be worse. At least Mayor Emanuel isn't trying to give New Yorkers advice on "pizza."
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CTA is a 24 hour system. Yes, Rahm shouldn't be patting himself on the back with the apples/oranges comparison of the 2 transit system but get your facts right.
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Classic Rahm to get in a dig at Trump! While the subways certainly run on time you can easily get shot in the poor neighborhoods of Chicago that Rahm chooses to ignore except at election time. The system is very reliable but also relatively limited. Most people rely on buses - ask them about the reliability and timeliness.
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I live in Chicago and agree with most of the mayor's comments. While there are still problems, it is dependable, relatively clean and safe.
What he doesn't mention is Chicago also has an example (from the previous administration) of the problems of privatizing. Daley "privatized" meter parking in the city. Basically, he sold off decades of parking fees to a private company in order to balance a short term budget gap. Since then parking rates have doubled. This shouldn't be a surprise, private for profit companies are out for profit. I hope the country becomes aware of both approaches and sees the examples for what they are.
What he doesn't mention is Chicago also has an example (from the previous administration) of the problems of privatizing. Daley "privatized" meter parking in the city. Basically, he sold off decades of parking fees to a private company in order to balance a short term budget gap. Since then parking rates have doubled. This shouldn't be a surprise, private for profit companies are out for profit. I hope the country becomes aware of both approaches and sees the examples for what they are.
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The exorbitant parking fees seem to be a profitable private business being operated on city property in Chicago. I am not aware that the citizens of Chicago received anything in return for having relinquished the operation of the parking to a private for profit company. A substantial contribution to improved public transport might have been in order, such as a shuttle service to transport people parking on the surface in Grant Park to their destination at the Art Institute or the Loop. My Chicago friends say this is business as usual for Chicago and in the spirit of Mike Royko's alternate motto for the City of Chicago: "Where's mine?"
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Rahm has done his share of privatizing public assets too. He's expanded privatization of custodial services and wants to do the same with nurses in the Chicago Public Schools. http://inthesetimes.com/article/17533/how_to_sell_off_a_city
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Without taking anything from Chicago, they also did not have hurricane Sandy that flooded the NYC system with salt water. Any guesses about what that did to the electrical system?
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With a population as dispersed as it is in the US, costs of maintenance and operation are much higher per rider than it is in such metropolitan areas as Hong Kong, Singapore, Taipeh. Inadequate public transport is the price we pay for living the "American Dream" of the freestanding single family house with a sideyard and an automobile or two in the garage.
The re-urbanization of central Chicago should bring in the tax revenue for further enhancements to the rapid transit system. Maintenance is not a frill, but a necessity without which the system will collapse.
The re-urbanization of central Chicago should bring in the tax revenue for further enhancements to the rapid transit system. Maintenance is not a frill, but a necessity without which the system will collapse.
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I often see Mayor Emmanuel on the Brown Line en route to the Loop. He rides the "L" like we all do...
But to hear him invoke the myths the much maligned Tax Increment Financing scheme ($6B over 30 years) is flies in the face of his "everyman "L" rider mystic".
Check out the City's own info: https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/dcd/provdrs/tif.html
$91 million for the Lasalle Central TIF district. You may be familiar with one of the wealthiest districts in America? Yeah, that one received $91M for development from communities around it. How many schools were closed in those adjacent communities? Perhaps more to the point, how many campaign contributors have their corporate offices in that district?
Our Mayor never did quite explain the logic of taking $55M in TIF money to purchase land for DePaul University basketball team (within the "blighted" confined of Lincoln Park). Land that, once purchased, would be publicly owned and support no tax revenue at all.
TIFs are here to stay. But have become corrupted to the point where they only serve as vehicles for political reward.
Mayor Emmanuel once said that choosing between Chicago neighborhoods is a false choice. I agree. But the choice the Mayor is making on behalf of Chicagoans is one between serving the interests the wealthy elite at the cost of the average Chicagoan.
Anyone think TIF money could have been used to keep 54 schools open instead of funding landscaping at Millennium Park? https://nyti.ms/2pDjNXV
But to hear him invoke the myths the much maligned Tax Increment Financing scheme ($6B over 30 years) is flies in the face of his "everyman "L" rider mystic".
Check out the City's own info: https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/dcd/provdrs/tif.html
$91 million for the Lasalle Central TIF district. You may be familiar with one of the wealthiest districts in America? Yeah, that one received $91M for development from communities around it. How many schools were closed in those adjacent communities? Perhaps more to the point, how many campaign contributors have their corporate offices in that district?
Our Mayor never did quite explain the logic of taking $55M in TIF money to purchase land for DePaul University basketball team (within the "blighted" confined of Lincoln Park). Land that, once purchased, would be publicly owned and support no tax revenue at all.
TIFs are here to stay. But have become corrupted to the point where they only serve as vehicles for political reward.
Mayor Emmanuel once said that choosing between Chicago neighborhoods is a false choice. I agree. But the choice the Mayor is making on behalf of Chicagoans is one between serving the interests the wealthy elite at the cost of the average Chicagoan.
Anyone think TIF money could have been used to keep 54 schools open instead of funding landscaping at Millennium Park? https://nyti.ms/2pDjNXV
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Here's an example where Republicans for small or no government and markets solve all problems fail miserably. Government exists to enable the welfare of the population.
Mass transit is an outrageously expensive proposition yet a necessity on all medium and large size cities (much like health care for all). There is no ROI in public transit other than enabling the wellbeing of the population. Leave it private companies and ticket prices will be so expensive that it will fail to meet the the main reason of public transit - move people around at affordable prices.
Mass transit is so expensive that even the though of public-private partnership should be kept inside a drawer. Private companies will take the profit while the public sector will be burden within all the costs, making mass transit even more expensive, as it needs to raise money for the system AND the private companies profits.
Mass transit is an outrageously expensive proposition yet a necessity on all medium and large size cities (much like health care for all). There is no ROI in public transit other than enabling the wellbeing of the population. Leave it private companies and ticket prices will be so expensive that it will fail to meet the the main reason of public transit - move people around at affordable prices.
Mass transit is so expensive that even the though of public-private partnership should be kept inside a drawer. Private companies will take the profit while the public sector will be burden within all the costs, making mass transit even more expensive, as it needs to raise money for the system AND the private companies profits.
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Having moved to Chicago 40 years ago from St. Louis, one of the things I instantly fell in love with about Chicago is the transit system. They really do put a LOT of money, brains and effort into how the CTA works, and citizens pay close attention to keeping it that way (which supports Mayor Emanuel's point about local control; voters have a voice in this). I use the L all the time, and am grateful to be able to leave my car at home whenever I'm headed to the Loop [downtown].
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How about putting this into context--last year, a 67% year-over-year property tax increase, and another big increase slated for this year. Residents are leaving Chicago, 37,000 left last year, in large part because of money-grabs like this. Not to mention our stellar police department--and the many millions of dollars paid for police wrongdoing.
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I doubt if Cuomo and Trump will read this. But it would benefit their constituents to follow Chicago's lead. Thanks to Mr. Emanuel for taking care of his constituents.
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Germany had a leader who made the trains run on time back in the 1930s. Making the trains run on time is one thing that has proved for certain to have no relationship to good government.
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I think you mean to say on-time trains do not prove good governance. Or that there's a historical exception to every rule of thumb. Certainly there's an inarguable correlation between good governance and effective transportation services--chronically late trains prove poor governance.
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That's a rather silly comment. Berlin, Paris, Tokyo have trains that run on time. Does that make them worthy of your implicit comparison?
Efficient public services are indeed a sign of good government. They're a signed of an engaged public sector that is run by competent people who care about their mission. We ought to try it sometime.
Efficient public services are indeed a sign of good government. They're a signed of an engaged public sector that is run by competent people who care about their mission. We ought to try it sometime.
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You're thinking of Mussolini, just FYI.
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It seems reasonable to assume that an all-elevated system is easier to maintain and repair than a system which runs many underground lines, and also has to use tunnels under a river to get to Manhattan.
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It also seems reasonable to assume the commentor does not known the CTA system, which has lines traveling under the Chicago River and underground throughout the Chicago loop. As a former Chicagoan, in my opinion, the current administration has indeed invested wisely in a transportation system.
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Chicago's L is not all-elevated. There are portions that are underground and also go under a river inside and outside of the Loop.
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Fyi. Chicago has subways that go under rivers as well. Facts matter
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I had a friend who took the MTA from Brooklyn to Washington Heights every day, and she reported that while it took a while, driving back and forth was out of the question. I hope NYC can get its repairs completed and then plan for major design changes, just like Chicago.
The Mayor is correct that Chicago is the best example on how to manage the changes; the CTA and Metra (suburban trains) are a great alternative to driving.
When the infrastructure money finally comes from Washington I hope NYC gets the lion's share of it. Meanwhile, upgrade your iPods!
The Mayor is correct that Chicago is the best example on how to manage the changes; the CTA and Metra (suburban trains) are a great alternative to driving.
When the infrastructure money finally comes from Washington I hope NYC gets the lion's share of it. Meanwhile, upgrade your iPods!
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I can appreciate good service and a train that is on time and get me where I want to go.
I can also appreciate a good school and teachers that are paid well. There are priorities Mr. Emanuel, and it seems that you have chosen to keep people moving along, so not to mull about and see what you have done elsewhere.
Who doesn't like trains though, right ?
I can also appreciate a good school and teachers that are paid well. There are priorities Mr. Emanuel, and it seems that you have chosen to keep people moving along, so not to mull about and see what you have done elsewhere.
Who doesn't like trains though, right ?
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While nothing Emanuel's writes is incorrect, there are some big "buts" that he omitted...
He says Chicago has focused on improvement/renovations over expansion of the L system. That's because expansion in well-populated areas is near impossible. The red line wants to create a "flyover" that would require taking several buildings by eminent domain. Residents are fighting to prevent that. Creating a circumferential line that connects spokes in residential neighborhoods seems insurmountably difficult in terms of cost & residential pushback.
The L's hub-and-spoke design works well if you live by a spoke. But this isn't London, where you walk a block or two will find a station. Taking the L from my Lakeview home to O'Hare requires me to travel 6 miles in the wrong direction on the red line to connect to the blue line, which goes to O'Hare. Or I can also take a bus for the 35 minute ride to the nearest blue line stop. Or do what I do more often, and take a $18, 20-minute cab to the station.
Meanwhile, our bus service regularly gets cut. In the last 10 years several routes near me were cut. The CTA justified it by saying that remaining routes see more frequent service. Not in my experience. Where I used to be able to catch buses downtown every 3-6 minutes, I may now have to wait 20+ minutes for a bus downtown during non-rush hour.
We may not have frequent derailments, but don't be fooled by Emanuel's comments -- Chicagoans have our own more persistent public transit woes.
He says Chicago has focused on improvement/renovations over expansion of the L system. That's because expansion in well-populated areas is near impossible. The red line wants to create a "flyover" that would require taking several buildings by eminent domain. Residents are fighting to prevent that. Creating a circumferential line that connects spokes in residential neighborhoods seems insurmountably difficult in terms of cost & residential pushback.
The L's hub-and-spoke design works well if you live by a spoke. But this isn't London, where you walk a block or two will find a station. Taking the L from my Lakeview home to O'Hare requires me to travel 6 miles in the wrong direction on the red line to connect to the blue line, which goes to O'Hare. Or I can also take a bus for the 35 minute ride to the nearest blue line stop. Or do what I do more often, and take a $18, 20-minute cab to the station.
Meanwhile, our bus service regularly gets cut. In the last 10 years several routes near me were cut. The CTA justified it by saying that remaining routes see more frequent service. Not in my experience. Where I used to be able to catch buses downtown every 3-6 minutes, I may now have to wait 20+ minutes for a bus downtown during non-rush hour.
We may not have frequent derailments, but don't be fooled by Emanuel's comments -- Chicagoans have our own more persistent public transit woes.
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I agree with much of what you said. I hear you about the blue line to O'hare since I live north on the red line. I think the flyover will be a good thing, though I'd doubtless fight it if I lived in the path of it. And I'd love to see a line that links blue, red and brown on the north side somewhere. Actually I'd prefer that to the flyover but the money of those two isn't even close. I do think, though, that the point Rahm makes about the trajectory of the L is a good one. It's getting better and has been for the entire time I've lived in Chicago (decades). And NYC used to be the best without question (I used to live there and missed the subway the most), but lately visits have shown the subway to be on a downward trajectory. People in NYC deserve better. The subway is an amazing asset and should be improved.
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Next time try taking the CTA to the Evanston Davis stop where you can connect to the Pace 250 straight to O'Hare in 50 mins and all for under $5.
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Mayor Tiny Dancer mentions how wonderful the infrastructure is in Chicago.
State of Illinois just stopped doing road work because they can't pay for it. At least the union workers who have retired from Chicago's public works, getting 50K pensions for toting a shovel for 20 years, then getting another job in the system (while getting their pensions) are now living comfortably in Florida, where they spend all that money in the local economy.
State of Illinois just stopped doing road work because they can't pay for it. At least the union workers who have retired from Chicago's public works, getting 50K pensions for toting a shovel for 20 years, then getting another job in the system (while getting their pensions) are now living comfortably in Florida, where they spend all that money in the local economy.
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Maybe the Chicago system. which is minuscule in comparison with NYC and carries only a fraction of the passengers in a non-24/7 system, operates sufficiently well to merit praise, though whether any of that praise is to the credit of Mr. Emanuel is dubious. But once again, a party hack has to try to say, "see how great it is here" while ignoring the elephant in the room, their dreadful crime and murder rate.
Perhaps, well, no, for sure, the President tweets too much, but pointing out the unsafe conditions of the streets of Chicago (in the, ahem, less affluent areas, of course) is a legitimate criticism. Nice try, Rahm.
Perhaps, well, no, for sure, the President tweets too much, but pointing out the unsafe conditions of the streets of Chicago (in the, ahem, less affluent areas, of course) is a legitimate criticism. Nice try, Rahm.
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It runs 24/7. Facts matter
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Well, I'm not sure what transit system Emanuel refers to, but it is certainly not the L that I ride. Delays on the L at the peak of PM rush hours are by no means infrequent. Most often, delays are due to mechanical failures -- often doors that won't close properly. (The doors get jammed because people try to hold them so everyone who has been waiting for a train can cram aboard. The trains are overcrowded because there are not enough trains. But I digress.)
The L trains are fairly clean, but they are hardly safe. In the past several years there have been several reports (documented by video surveillance) of violent robberies and even a couple of sexual assaults -- in the daytime. The desperate shortage of police in the city is even worse on the CTA -- I can't remember the last time I saw "transit police" -- or even a CPD officer -- on an L or even on the platform.
This editorial is a political maneuver from a mayor who is desperate to (1) stop the exodus of population from his city and (2) promote tourism and encourage visitors. Chicago has a terrible problem with violence. Armed robberies and violent muggings are increasingly common around Wrigley Field and the Near North areas frequented by tourists. Before lecturing other cities on "how it's done," Rahm would do well to own up to his own mess and do something about it.
(And lest anyone think otherwise, I am not a Trump advocate - in fact, I'm a Hillary-supporting Democrat. But not where Rahm is concerned.)
The L trains are fairly clean, but they are hardly safe. In the past several years there have been several reports (documented by video surveillance) of violent robberies and even a couple of sexual assaults -- in the daytime. The desperate shortage of police in the city is even worse on the CTA -- I can't remember the last time I saw "transit police" -- or even a CPD officer -- on an L or even on the platform.
This editorial is a political maneuver from a mayor who is desperate to (1) stop the exodus of population from his city and (2) promote tourism and encourage visitors. Chicago has a terrible problem with violence. Armed robberies and violent muggings are increasingly common around Wrigley Field and the Near North areas frequented by tourists. Before lecturing other cities on "how it's done," Rahm would do well to own up to his own mess and do something about it.
(And lest anyone think otherwise, I am not a Trump advocate - in fact, I'm a Hillary-supporting Democrat. But not where Rahm is concerned.)
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leaving crime aside which indeed may be higher than other places (and as much as we criticize the mayor for it (it is to great extent a reflection of our national priorities) Chicago is still the most livable city for one reason, its transportation. In most cases, you can get public transportation within 4 blocks of where you live and by and large covering most hours of the day. And system, as the mayor points out, improved slowly but steadily.
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There is a great difference between "public transportation" and "rapid transit." The editorial focuses on the latter, which is essential to get people downtown to business centers. If you think rapid transit is always available within four blocks of your location, then you have never visited Pill Hill, Jeffery Manor, Edison Park, West Rogers Park, and countless other neighborhoods where people have to take one or two buses to get to the nearest L line.
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A critical point here is that Chicago's system is barely 24/7. It has 2 lines that run 24/7 (Red and Blue) and only fairly recently have they provided that service. NYC provides full 24/7 subway service. You can't make headway on track repair, maintenance, and signal upgrades with such limited access to the Right of Way. NYC's MTA is constantly jostling for access to make the repairs and upgrades it needs to run its system all while trains are in service. And the political culture here in NYC is very unsupportive of the MTA's efforts to do this work as it involves reroutes, delays, and other inconveniences. For the MTA to get back on track, it needs to rethink its commitment to 24/7 service. It just can't keep up with the needs of the system with such limited access.
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As a native Southern Californian, even I was aware of the way it's done in Chicago. I knew people decades ago from the city that talked about how even in mid winter, there were transit workers standing on bus routes to check and make sure lines were running on time. Most people in California (even San Francisco where transit is great) don't know of that kind of rigor, and emphasis of on time performance. A transit system is supposed to get people to work on time. Something poor Los Angeles figured out far too late with it's postwar faith in the freeways. Now they are figuring it out.
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During the horrible blizzard a few years back Lake Shore Drive was completely snowed in and tens of thousands of people were stuck, including a huge number of CTA buses. The L never missed a beat. I think it's a point of pride with L operators that they keep going no matter what.
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jp, the point is that Chicago's mass transit is run locally, not out of the governor's office.
Please do not miss the greater message that federal government mass transportation investment benefits all citizens.
Please do not miss the greater message that federal government mass transportation investment benefits all citizens.
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Rham, while Washington DC is a "city" it's also "DC" a jurisdiction seeking representation in Congress. Maybe referring to us as such would support the effort to give our leadership more power negotiating things like transit with our neighbors.
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A bigger question is why Chicago does not reach out to BATF in order to stem the tide of illegal firearms run into the city. A simple fix, just have the federal law applied and the full sentences imposed. 100 years for moving an illegal firearm from Florida to Illinois would get anyone's attention. It isn't done because of racism and the ignorant support of the black population for democrats who maybe will do something good. Like get the trains to run on time.
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Mr. Emanuel's praise of the city where he is Mayor recalls a Russian proverb, "oatmeal kasha praises itself". Apart from that, the Chicago restrictions (made possible by the loophole in the 2nd Amendment) on the bearing of arms by citizens increase the street crime and arrogance of armed gangs.
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One thing. Population of NYC is growing. Chicago's population is dropping.
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Nothing says "Chicago" like being under the L as the sloppy snow melts under foot and a train clatters overhead. Chicagoans are tough because they have to be.
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Chicago is my favorite city. Large enough to have anything you can desire and small enough to have neighborhoods. The L links the city together in some ways. All lines come downtown where people actually go for museums, free concerts, fireworks, boating, etc. I grew up in DC and think the Metro is a great system, and does the same for DC, getting people to the things cities do. Mr. Emanuel is justifiably proud of his city and reminds us that it was the "City that Works" as well as the "City of Broad Shoulders". NYC and Chicago, along with Philly and Boston, set the mark for cities in the 20th Century. That model is different in LA, Phoenix and Las Vegas but the model still works.
Cities in the US face some tough challenges. Detroit, once our fifth largest city is a shadow of itself. I am pleased to hear that Chicago has had healthy economic growth. Most of the racial and poverty problems are in cities. Yet they are also the site of some of our most cherished icons, including Baseball, Museums, Monuments and centers for music and arts.
I live in a firmly rural area now, and the natives of these parts don't like cities, yet they love to travel to a ball game for a special event. We are all Americans and we want roughly the same things. Lets celebrate that.
Cities in the US face some tough challenges. Detroit, once our fifth largest city is a shadow of itself. I am pleased to hear that Chicago has had healthy economic growth. Most of the racial and poverty problems are in cities. Yet they are also the site of some of our most cherished icons, including Baseball, Museums, Monuments and centers for music and arts.
I live in a firmly rural area now, and the natives of these parts don't like cities, yet they love to travel to a ball game for a special event. We are all Americans and we want roughly the same things. Lets celebrate that.
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LA isn't a city. It's suburbia galore.
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I do ride both the MTA and the CTA on a fairly regular basis, and I can attest to Emanuel's point about the CTA. The Orange Line comes directly from Midway airport to the city, the Blue Line directly from O'Hare. One boards right at the airport (no intermediate service or transfer). Both have been updated, they're quieter than the MTA and faster. Along much of the Red Line stations are more modern and quipped for those with mobility issues (though the Loop subway stations still need work). And the network of express buses takes people very quickly from point to point beyond the L system.
To be fair, the CTA is not as large as the MTA. And Cook County is one entity, able to levy a gas tax (not the several jurisdictions of NJ, NY, CT) to support the commuter rail system (METRA). Both MTA and CTA are good deals for tourist fares: $32 for a week pass in NYC, $20 for a 3-day pass in Chicago (Chicago's touch and go VENTRA pay card speeds access to platforms and buses, however). I like traveling in both cities on public transport, but the MTA is more cumbersome and more painful for those of us who have a hard time with stairs, noisier, and dirtier inside and out.
To be fair, the CTA is not as large as the MTA. And Cook County is one entity, able to levy a gas tax (not the several jurisdictions of NJ, NY, CT) to support the commuter rail system (METRA). Both MTA and CTA are good deals for tourist fares: $32 for a week pass in NYC, $20 for a 3-day pass in Chicago (Chicago's touch and go VENTRA pay card speeds access to platforms and buses, however). I like traveling in both cities on public transport, but the MTA is more cumbersome and more painful for those of us who have a hard time with stairs, noisier, and dirtier inside and out.
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10 years ago Chicago went to touch cards rather than the dip cards NYC still uses. NYC put in these ridiculous , maintenance intensive and passenger unfriendly Select Bus paper receipt kiosks which are next to impossible to use in a heavy rainstorm (common in summer) and which require a human to come on the bus and ask passengers to show their tiny paper receipt although one rarely sees these inspectors with any regularity except two weeks prior to Christmas
I live in NYC and lived in Chicago. I live both cities but only one has managed to provide direct subway access to both major airports and only one has moved to a modern payment system.
I live in NYC and lived in Chicago. I live both cities but only one has managed to provide direct subway access to both major airports and only one has moved to a modern payment system.
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None of these comments address Emanuel's main argument, federal funding for urban transportation projects. Infrastructure is crumbling all over the country. We need a government that's capable of managing it's reconstruction. We need adults in Washington so we don't have to waste another four years while our country falls apart.
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We wasted the past 8 why not 4 more?
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Why should Washington be responsible for Chicago's mass transit system. The system was built with local monies. Profits were kept locally. Maintenance was not done by the locals, and now they want the Feds to bail them out because they spent the profits elsewhere, or in the case of Chicago pocketed them.
Sorry. but Chicago and the other big cities should raise fares to break even. Otherwise they will become just another large black hole for the Feds to poor money into and the local politicians to take money from.
Sorry. but Chicago and the other big cities should raise fares to break even. Otherwise they will become just another large black hole for the Feds to poor money into and the local politicians to take money from.
If I lived in Chicago I'd be more concerned about ambulance transit times than the subway...
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Our ambulances work fine, and they travel the streets of a real city that draws people into its central business district day and night. And by the way, the FBI reports that the rate of violent crime (per 100k) in Indianapolis is 1288, compared to 904 for Chicago.
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If I lived in Indianapolis, I'd be more worried about dying of ennui.
Ha! I missed my plane taking the train. It was 5PM and we stopped for an hour for work on tracks.
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Manhattan is for the one-percenters. It caters to them and the residents outside of Manhattan are treated like step-children; the one percenters don't need a decent subway system so who cares.
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Yes, you can leave Manhattan to the 1% or 0.1% or 0.01%, but that group still depends on many, many services provided by other people. These cities cannot effectively function without a good public transportation system. Chicago in this case is showing NY how to do it.
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Oh yes they do, simply to get the "little people" who service them into Manhattan! It behooves the rich folks to make sure there is effective mass transit that serves them. (Meaning "the help", of course.)
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I commute to work on the suburban rail system (Metra) and often take the "L" to get around the city. While no public transport system is perfect, Chicago's is generally reliable, the train cars are clean and it's a cost effective way to get around town.
I've travelled to many other cities with public transport, including New York, Paris, Athens, Washington, Moscow, and London. Chicago's system is among the best. I'm proud of Chicago keep up it's railway lines, even in times of financial crisis like now.
I've travelled to many other cities with public transport, including New York, Paris, Athens, Washington, Moscow, and London. Chicago's system is among the best. I'm proud of Chicago keep up it's railway lines, even in times of financial crisis like now.
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There is no such thing as a perfect transportation system, but just imagine what systems we could have if we were not spending, on average, $8,698 a year on each personal automobile we own (2015 estimate by AAA) and spent even a third of the $3 Trillion we spend every year maintaining our personal liberty to sit in choking traffic jams. OK, so having created sprawling suburbs we need cars to some extent, but had we not knuckled under to the "bus" lobby and ripped up that inter-connected network of municipal street cars and rail systems that formerly blanketed our country, we might have the basis for a decent, less car-focused transportation system. (If you want to see what this looked like, visit Toronto which kept its street car network.) Dependent on public transportation, we would all be advocates and demanding the sort of upkeep Chicago is now doing.
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Did not the iconic band Chicago start out as the Chicago Transit Authority?
They knew a good thing when they saw it.
They knew a good thing when they saw it.
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If there were no such thing as government, we'd have to invent it for mass transit alone. People are the life blood of the economy, and the trains and buses are the circulatory system. Everyone, from the person transferring umpteen times to get to work to the CEO whisked to his office tower via limo, depends on good, reliable transport. And that's just economics ~ culture and humanity are in the mix.
Yes, the MTA, Washington Metro, and CTA are not exactly comparable. Yes, government can be bureaucratic. Yes, the El has its problems (I've ridden it since the 60s, don't get me started. I do miss those old roll-down window cars, sigh.) But don't "let the enemy of the perfect be the good." Let's learn from what Mayor Emmanuel has to say and appreciate the reasoned, proactive nuts-and-bolts commitment to the CTA.
Yes, the MTA, Washington Metro, and CTA are not exactly comparable. Yes, government can be bureaucratic. Yes, the El has its problems (I've ridden it since the 60s, don't get me started. I do miss those old roll-down window cars, sigh.) But don't "let the enemy of the perfect be the good." Let's learn from what Mayor Emmanuel has to say and appreciate the reasoned, proactive nuts-and-bolts commitment to the CTA.
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yeah but - it's harder for developers to get $Millions in secret commissions if it's public transport - much easier if they are given major road building schemes - at least in my country across the big pond.
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The murder rate in Chicago is off the charts and a national calamity; gangs control neighborhoods, not the police and the state is about to go bankrupt and take the city down with it and Emanuel wants to give us a lecture about transportation?
I would have thought the mayor of Chicago had more pressing concerns.
I would have thought the mayor of Chicago had more pressing concerns.
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Mayors are not only allowed but also required to deal with multiple problems. Chicago also has issues with education, but in general, despite Illinois budget impasse, it still functions and appeals to visitors and business.
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Laurence, check those statistics. Chicago murder rate, while higher and incredibly tragic and frustrating, is still lower than in the 70's. Limited to mainly to a few terribly impoverished neighborhoods where jobs are nowhere to be found. Yet, those neighborhoods are still well serviced by the CTA.
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Transportation and infrastructure, filling the potholes, are as pressing concerns as any big city mayor ever has. Just ask Jane Byrne. Conservatives want to ignore and deflect any real discussion over public infrastructure because they hate all things "public" so there is not a single informed comment on this thread from them.
I would take the crowded NYC subway any day over the El.
1. The El really does not serve the whole city the way the NYC subway does, especially the lower income parts. That's not an accident, by the way -- that was by design.
2. The El is incredibly slow.
3. Illinois is nearing banckruptcy, so it's not like Chicago has really found a sustainable solution.
1. The El really does not serve the whole city the way the NYC subway does, especially the lower income parts. That's not an accident, by the way -- that was by design.
2. The El is incredibly slow.
3. Illinois is nearing banckruptcy, so it's not like Chicago has really found a sustainable solution.
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A few corrections-
1.The Green and Blue lines do go through less affluent areas on the West Side, and the Red Line does as well south of the Sox ballpark.
2. Some lines are a little slow but do any NYC lines reach 55mph as the Blue Line does to O'Hare? Also, these Air Trains are a joke compared to direct access.
3. CTA funding does not exclusively come from the Illinois General Fund, and does not depend on the state for capital projects. State bankruptcy would hurt but there's no causal link between budget woes in Springfield and CTA funding requirements.
1.The Green and Blue lines do go through less affluent areas on the West Side, and the Red Line does as well south of the Sox ballpark.
2. Some lines are a little slow but do any NYC lines reach 55mph as the Blue Line does to O'Hare? Also, these Air Trains are a joke compared to direct access.
3. CTA funding does not exclusively come from the Illinois General Fund, and does not depend on the state for capital projects. State bankruptcy would hurt but there's no causal link between budget woes in Springfield and CTA funding requirements.
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This op-ed struck me a bit odd- it's true the trains that work work well- but getting to diverse parts of the city had always felt like a hassle. Chicago more than any other place I've lived in felt divided and to my recollection the transit system was one of the biggest problems. I go as far as citing the transit system as the reason I liked living in NYC more than Chicago- I felt connected to a diverse group of people.
If that's improving.... great.
If that's improving.... great.
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A lack of expansion isn't what has caused Chicago's system to be more reliable.
The New York City subway has expanded by just ten stations in the past 50 years: half of what was originally phase 1 of the Second Avenue Subway, a one-station Flushing Line extension, the stations at 63rd and Lex, Roosevelt Avenue and Long Island City along the 63rd Street tunnel, and three E line stations in Jamaica (replacing an El that was torn down).
Chicago built the Pink line and extended the State Street subway south, among other things, in that time.
Moreover, in Chicago more riders take buses than trains.
It is possible that Chicago is less ripped off by the construction industry than New York, reducing the cost of rebuilding existing lines AND building new ones.
The New York City subway has expanded by just ten stations in the past 50 years: half of what was originally phase 1 of the Second Avenue Subway, a one-station Flushing Line extension, the stations at 63rd and Lex, Roosevelt Avenue and Long Island City along the 63rd Street tunnel, and three E line stations in Jamaica (replacing an El that was torn down).
Chicago built the Pink line and extended the State Street subway south, among other things, in that time.
Moreover, in Chicago more riders take buses than trains.
It is possible that Chicago is less ripped off by the construction industry than New York, reducing the cost of rebuilding existing lines AND building new ones.
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The Pink line was created by using a track that was used to connect the different rail lines for repair trains and by linking it to the Blue line track that went to Cicero/Berwyn.
The Orange line was a new line that used railroad right of ways to go to Midway Airport and used funding from the Crosstown Expressway that was not built. It began operations in the 1980s.
The extension of the Blue Line from the Jefferson Park station to O'Hare Airport was also done in the 1980s.
The Orange line was a new line that used railroad right of ways to go to Midway Airport and used funding from the Crosstown Expressway that was not built. It began operations in the 1980s.
The extension of the Blue Line from the Jefferson Park station to O'Hare Airport was also done in the 1980s.
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NY has done much more than that. Line extensions are one thing, complete restructuring is another. The mid-60's Chrystie Street connection under the LES effectively merged the old BMT and IND divisions into one and led to major revision of train routings. There have been other changes and improvements. One problem NYC faces is that it is and will always likely be two incompatible systems in one. All the numbered routes (the old IRT lines) are built to different specs from the lettered ones; the tunnels are narrower and the platform clearances are set up for trains a foot less wide than on the rest of the system. Separate procurement of trains, minimal possibility of integration with a master plan. A parallel universe. However none of this excuses the failure to update control and signal systems over the years. Amtrak's management shares similar guilt as it indulges in fantasies of Acelas with higher top speeds yet no fixes for the many bottlenecks on its lines which drop the speeds of the fastest equipment to a crawl and culminating in the Penn Station mess of recent weeks.
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So, Chicago and Illinois are facing bankruptcy and ruin, but at least the trains run on time!
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and don't forget the murder rate. It seems that Rahm has.
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I had the oppotunity to ride all three of the transit systems mentioned over the course of a month (April 2017). I thought all three were: 1. Intelligible. I always knew or could find out where I was or was going. 2. Safe. There were panhandlers and the like but I never felt threatened. 3. Economical. $32 for 7 days unlimited in NYC, inc. SI ferry and RI tramway, who can argue with that? I am not going to compare them, I don't have the experience and I don't have to commute on them. That said, don't beat yourselves up, there are many worse transit systems than yours. Does it matter if the trains run on time without delays if they are only scheduled every 2 hours or so?
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Safe? I'm not sure when you rode the CTA, but I would hardly describe it as safe. Numerous cases of armed robbery and sexual assault -- in the daytime -- have been documented just in the last several years. I lived in NYC in the 70s and early 80s -- one of the worst periods in NYC history in terms of violence. Especially on the subways--it's no accident that the Guardian Angels formed at that time. Yet I felt safer on the NYC trains than I do on the L in Chicago.
As I said, in April this year I expolered 'the Loop' with the assistance of the CTA . First time ever in the US and first trip on US public transport. Compared to Europe I felt safe. Stop whinging.
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Emanuel focuses on New York and Washington. What about the many other transit systems that are more important than Chicago's? Measured by passenger trips per capita, San Francisco, Atlanta, Boston, and several other places depend on mass transit more than Chicago does, so why doesn't Emanuel mention them? Could it be that Chicago's system is merely of average quality - better than NY and DC perhaps, but worse than many others?
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Here comes Rahm Emanuel, cup in hand, asking for the Federal Government to take money from the other 49 states to fund his transit system. Illinois has consistently rewarded its powerful unions with financial promises it can’t keep. Indeed, Moody's estimates Illinois has unfunded pension liabilities totaling $251 billion, which is more than the combined market cap of four major Illinois companies: Boeing, Caterpillar, United Airlines and Allstate – and Illinois may actually have to cease selling lottery tickets because they don’t have the funds to pay the winners!
I will grant that the Chicago Transit Authority runs a balanced annual operating budget, but less than half of its revenue comes from the actual system (fares, ads, etc.) – the rest is publicly funded through taxes. Its pension obligations are underfunded.
I wouldn’t give Chicago or Illinois a dime until they show they can get their financial house in order – starting with actually passing a budget and making a dent in their pension obligations.
And by the way, I took the L from O'Hare into Chicago. Yikes!
I will grant that the Chicago Transit Authority runs a balanced annual operating budget, but less than half of its revenue comes from the actual system (fares, ads, etc.) – the rest is publicly funded through taxes. Its pension obligations are underfunded.
I wouldn’t give Chicago or Illinois a dime until they show they can get their financial house in order – starting with actually passing a budget and making a dent in their pension obligations.
And by the way, I took the L from O'Hare into Chicago. Yikes!
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While the delays on the MTA lately have been absolutely ridiculous, I agree with the commenters saying the comparison isn't as illustrative as it may seem.
The system serves the areas it serves very well, but outside of that, transport can be difficult. It's easy enough to go east-west and north-south (er, north-center, as the southern extensions, as mentioned above, are a mess), but anywhere else is laughable. it was often twice as long to get somewhere on the train as driving—in the case of O'Hare, three times from my old neighborhood.
The modernization is nice but definitely focused on the wealthiest residents, who often need it the least.
The system serves the areas it serves very well, but outside of that, transport can be difficult. It's easy enough to go east-west and north-south (er, north-center, as the southern extensions, as mentioned above, are a mess), but anywhere else is laughable. it was often twice as long to get somewhere on the train as driving—in the case of O'Hare, three times from my old neighborhood.
The modernization is nice but definitely focused on the wealthiest residents, who often need it the least.
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I don't know whether it's the spicy food that I'm eating, but reading this almost brought tears to my eyes.
In this era of unrelenting bad news, to hear that something is actually working in America - and trains (gasp), public transportation no less (clutches pearls) - is almost moving.
In this era of unrelenting bad news, to hear that something is actually working in America - and trains (gasp), public transportation no less (clutches pearls) - is almost moving.
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Good for you, Chicago, and perhaps there are things that can be learned by New York's MTA, but don't forget that your subway system is relatively small compared to New York City's, i.e.. 102 miles of track for Chicago compared to 840 for New York.
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You did read the part about how expanding up to those 840 miles has contributed to the poorer quality, right?
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Also most of the MTA system is underground. Also that 840 miles was originally 3 separate companies, not a small downtown rail that expanded somewhat. So any 'core capacity' improvement requires much more work.
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LCar, you do realize that of those 840 miles about 15 were built in the last 30 years, right? Expansion? Ha! NYC just has a huge head start.
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I agree that money is better spent upgrading the present system before expansion is considered. In the case of NYC expansion has been done to make real estate developers rich. As for trump, he is after Chicago and its mayor to put down a friend of President Obama, SAD, VERY SAD!!!
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As a frequent rider of the "L," who has been using the system for 40+ years, I certainly know it is not perfect. That said, it is good and getting better. The service is frequent, the stations upgrades have been well done, and the cars are generally far cleaner than they were a decade ago. The CTA also does a good job of adding trains and/or cars to keep up with special events, especially on weekends. The current payment system, which allows regular riders to re-load fair cars automatically is also convenient.
Like many large cities, Chicago has its share of problems. Current violence, especially on the south & west sides is unacceptable and must be addressed. That said, the CTA is a part of the city which currently works well to serve our citizens.
Like many large cities, Chicago has its share of problems. Current violence, especially on the south & west sides is unacceptable and must be addressed. That said, the CTA is a part of the city which currently works well to serve our citizens.
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There are some good points here, but the remark about the Washington system is unfair. The Washington airports authority, not WMATA, is paying for the Dulles expansion through tolls on the Dulles toll road, and the project isn't impacting the rest of Metro's budget. Also, Chicago's system has been largely rebuilt and seems more reliable now, but when I rode it in the mid-aughts it was as plagued with problems as New York and D.C. are now, including lots of slow zones.
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The point is that those problems are history in Chicago, the city has been able to deal with it and is on a trajectory for continued success. The children of the millennials will be graduating from college before New York achieves the same level of service. If ever.
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Assuming the millennials can get their college loans paid off before taking on new ones for their kids.
I use the CTA, the bus system, and also Metra, another railway system out to the suburbs. I love living near the city and the easy and quick access to all the cultural amenities Chicago offers.
These days it seems Chicago and Illinois don't have much to brag about, but they can certainly be proud of this. It isn't perfect, but as others will attest, you can get where you want to go pretty quickly and cheaply.
These days it seems Chicago and Illinois don't have much to brag about, but they can certainly be proud of this. It isn't perfect, but as others will attest, you can get where you want to go pretty quickly and cheaply.
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To be fair, Chicago was built as a railroad city, with lines radiating out from a compact center. And almost all of its network is within one state-- a lot of it within one county. Other cities have more intrinsic problems.
Still, what Rahm Emmanuel is advocating sounds a good deal better than a chopped up transportation system with little coordination and lots of tolls.
Still, what Rahm Emmanuel is advocating sounds a good deal better than a chopped up transportation system with little coordination and lots of tolls.
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A very good point. The railroads built the "city of broad shoulders." I also wonder how much, if any, of the L is underground, which brings its own unique challenges for maintenance. The political problems of NYC and DC (jurisdictional) also present difficulties. All in all, however, Mr. Emanuel's article is insightful and I, too, am happy something in this country actually works dependably. If I am Governor Cuomo I would be would quite happy to dump all the subway political problems on the mayor of New York, if he would be dumb enough to assume them.
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Both the Blue and Red lines run above ground to underground and back out again. I have lived here over 10 years and they do not seem to have any issues maintaining.
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The Metra commuter rail system has hundreds of miles of tracks and serves several counties. Metra is working on its own improvement project.
Chicago's history as a railroad city means there's a lot of collective experience here, which is certainly an asset. However, the enormous amount of railroad infrastructure (and related sites, such as intermodal yards) makes expansion of transit more complicated in the areas of the city that could use it most.
Chicago's history as a railroad city means there's a lot of collective experience here, which is certainly an asset. However, the enormous amount of railroad infrastructure (and related sites, such as intermodal yards) makes expansion of transit more complicated in the areas of the city that could use it most.
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Although the introduction of a modern payment system a few years ago was initially a failure (I built a mobile phone app at the time for people to "vent" their Ventra frustrations), the city of Chicago worked to get that fixed.
Over the same time period, DC watched it's subway catch fire numerous times and built a streetcar that's less convenient than the city buses it now gets in the way of.
We need modern, reliable and accessible mass transit now more than ever--and not just in the largest of our cities--connecting people to the centers of commerce and industry, creating wealth and economic opportunity by way of mobility, and reducing pollution.
This has to take place at the local level.
Mr. Emmanuel is also right in that the President should be looking for solutions to problems as opposed to simply just pointing past them and guffawing and something nonsensical and unrelated instead.
Over the same time period, DC watched it's subway catch fire numerous times and built a streetcar that's less convenient than the city buses it now gets in the way of.
We need modern, reliable and accessible mass transit now more than ever--and not just in the largest of our cities--connecting people to the centers of commerce and industry, creating wealth and economic opportunity by way of mobility, and reducing pollution.
This has to take place at the local level.
Mr. Emmanuel is also right in that the President should be looking for solutions to problems as opposed to simply just pointing past them and guffawing and something nonsensical and unrelated instead.
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As of 30 years ago, the Office of Technology Assessment pointed out that serving short hop travelers via high speed train would be much more efficient than air travel from, say, Boston to DC, Indy to Chicago, Kansas City to Denver. But no, we had to deregulate airlines and push everyone to road travel, because companies can't make profits on train travel. Governments would have to fund rail. Thanks, Dept of Defense, for killing rail with the interstate system (rail is easier to disable, was the logic). Exceptionally stupid. Making America late again.
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Both Chicago and NYC take a backseat to the Paris Metro, which provided 1.5 billion rides last year at a level of comfort and efficiency that should make all US passengers envious!
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Along with Mexico City's, also French built.
Public system right?
Have you ever ridden the Paris Metro in the summer? I wouldn't call it comfortable - there's not even air conditioning.
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I lived in chicago for 5 years and used the L and train netwnetwork frequently. The L train is horribly loud both outside and inside the carriages. Compared to older networks like London or Paris, the system looks old and is much less comfortable - the new stations to be inaugurated shortly downtown are still open and expose users to the harsh weather. Finally, the increased presence of police and police dogs on the trains did not inspire a growing confidence on peaceful rides.
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I would love to know where there are police and police dogs on the L! Have seen the presence of neither for a very long time. And actually, seeing the police should make you feel safer. I would love to see a couple of cops and their dogs on my train every day.
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With more than 6,000 taxing entities, many more than any other state, Illinois has done a great job figuring out how to siphon dollars from taxpayers. Still haven't figured out how to equitably divide all that lucre though. And to quote that great labor leader Samuel Gompers, the need is "more, always more."
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Each Illinois resident does not have to pay tax to 6,000 different entities. Perhaps you can find a more relevant statistic.
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The problem with Chicago's CTA and Metra systems isn't cleanliness or reliability- it's the lack of equity in its distribution of services. The wealthier, whiter northeast side and richest suburbs are well serviced, while South Siders suffer long wait times, much less coverage, and less reliable service. Closures and delays that would never be tolerated up north are routine in nonwhite parts of town. This column from Mayor Emanuel further supports the case many have made already - that his main goal as mayor is to attract white 1-percenters to our city, rather than improving the lives of low-income people of color that comprise much of our actual population.
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If your presumption is true about Mayor Emanuel and his intent the problem is that the "little people" who service all those 1% folks in the city need a way to get to work. They are constantly being pushed farther and farther out of city centers by rising rents. Who will empty the trash cans at Trump Tower if they can't get to work?
Don't forget about Metra! The RTA makes uses of the city's grid upon concentric circles making downtown a true hub. While there are definitely underserved areas - the South Side (on purpose?) - the greater Metro Area can flock to Grant Park and enjoy the fireworks.
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I lived in Chicago's Western Suburbs (Naperville) for three years, while commuting daily into the city on the Metra trains -- they were fast and reliable. I take the LIRR in from Suffolk Co. to Manhattan once a week or so now. The greater metropolitan Chicago trains are head and shoulders better than the equivalent system for NYC and its environs.
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I live in Boston and I think that the key in this article is that they repair and do not
go willy nilly adding more and more tracks and stops. REPAIR is key to having
a good Metro system.
go willy nilly adding more and more tracks and stops. REPAIR is key to having
a good Metro system.
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I don't take the Metra often (since I live in the city) but I do have occasion to take it from time to time. It's a treat! I hope the next thing Chicago does is find a way where you can more seamlessly use your ventra card on any of the local transit--Metra, South Shore Line, PACE, etc. Everything but Amtrak is what I'm hoping for someday.
I have taken ge Chicago L several times and was impressed. Trains were on time and clean. Getting to O'Hare was actually enjoyable. NYC lost it's focus on modernizing its system including switches tracks and cars. Time to hire real engineers to lead the rebuilding of the most important system in the country. NYC can't expand without a world class transit system.
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Expand? NYC will implode if it doesn't fix the system it has right now. Forget expansion in the near term. New York doesn't work without subways.
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Chicago was always in the forefront of commuting. I lived in Chicago in 1967 and the IC used magnetic cards for ride entry. It took NYC 10 years later to install such a system. The Dan Ryan in 1967 had a train running down the middle of the highway-something NYC should have thought about when the LIE was being built. As far as seeking help from Trump-forget it. He has no idea or concerns about transportation or for that matter the citizens of Chicago or citizens in general. It is all about Trump-the only person he cares about it Donald Trump.
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Obama did nothing to improve inner city transportation! Obama and the liberal left spent Trillions and our infrastructure is falling apart around us. Had Obama spent more time resolving issues then pontificating, the past 8 yrs may have actually amounted to something. The ACA was not an accomplishment but a great idea poorly executed.
The issues with the MTA go back over 20 years. There was no long range capital planning done and the system is in dire need. It runs or these days staggers 24/7, 365 days a year.
The issues with the MTA go back over 20 years. There was no long range capital planning done and the system is in dire need. It runs or these days staggers 24/7, 365 days a year.
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You may have forgotten that Obama "spent trillions" to save the auto industry jobs, stop the financial collapse of 2008, prevented a second Great Depression, and had 75 consecutive months of job gains in his 8 years.
He managed to bring health insurance and medical care to more than 24 million Americans who may soon lose it.
He failed to get his $1 Trillion dollar infrastructure stimulus program though the "balanced budget" "government in a bathtub" Republican controlled Congress. If you want to blame someone for the failure to support infrastructure, point your finger at Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and red state Republicans who don't ride the subways or support public transportation.
He managed to bring health insurance and medical care to more than 24 million Americans who may soon lose it.
He failed to get his $1 Trillion dollar infrastructure stimulus program though the "balanced budget" "government in a bathtub" Republican controlled Congress. If you want to blame someone for the failure to support infrastructure, point your finger at Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and red state Republicans who don't ride the subways or support public transportation.
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Comparing the Chicago L to the NYC Subway System is absurd. NYC has four times as much track, three times as many routes and 7-and-one-half times as many annual passenger trips as the Chicago system with only 2.5 times the GMP and more than triple the population.
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No dog in this fight but apparently less is more.
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Maybe the NYC subway system has four times as much track as Chicago's system, but it sounds like Chicago system has four times the effective management that NYC's system has. Managing a mass-transit system from another city, some 150+ miles away, is NOT a recipe for success, as present outcomes ratify.
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This is very true--also true that in the last ten years our transit has improved while NYCs has not. Like NYC, the CTA is experiencing much higher ridership. I think what's happening with the NYC subway is a crying shame. I love the subway (lived in NYC back in the day) and it's such a convenient and fast way to move through the city. I think the thing to focus on is not the size (you are right, no comparison) but the trajectory. Ours is getting better and the subway is getting worse. New Yorkers deserve better and I hope that the state of emergency turns things around. The subway really is an amazing asset to NYC even in its current tarnished state. Here's hoping for the reboot.
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I was impressed with the L, the several times I've been to Chicago. I was able to fly in, take the train, or bus to my destinations in the city, see a game at Wrigley Field, and return with ease and comfort. Mr. Emanuel expresses good ideas, and has proven he knows what he's talking about. Unfortunately, he's "tainted" by his relationship with former President Obama, which will ensure Trump will never follow even the best advice.
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I think Rahm will be around longer than Trump.
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I live part time in Chicago, and have done so for 17 years. I always take the Blue line into the city from O'Hare, rather than the shuttles or cabs, as it is quick, no traffic delays, and dependable. Moreover, it's inexpensive.....$5, as opposed to $40+ for a cab ride. And it's only $2.50 from the city to O'Hare! What a deal!
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CTA is a great system and serves Chicago and outlying areas well.
MTA NY faces some unique and substantial problems: In addition to the splintered, remote exec management for MTA cited in the article, it does not own it's main station (Penn), but rents space from Amtrak which Congress has squeezed for funding over the last 20 yrs. MTA also runs 24/7 and never shuts down, limiting maintenance and repair efficiency. Finally, MTA is operating beyond capacity.
Each one of these issues a major problem. Together they're a Trifecta of complexity.
MTA NY faces some unique and substantial problems: In addition to the splintered, remote exec management for MTA cited in the article, it does not own it's main station (Penn), but rents space from Amtrak which Congress has squeezed for funding over the last 20 yrs. MTA also runs 24/7 and never shuts down, limiting maintenance and repair efficiency. Finally, MTA is operating beyond capacity.
Each one of these issues a major problem. Together they're a Trifecta of complexity.
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Right, now tell me another one, Metra (Commuter Rail) is plagued by delays, figure one trip every two weeks will have problems.
Mostly (again) underinvestment. Their motive power (Locomotives) average 26 years old, and many of the cars are older, plus the ageing track and signal systems.
Mostly (again) underinvestment. Their motive power (Locomotives) average 26 years old, and many of the cars are older, plus the ageing track and signal systems.
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Metra is a different agency than the CTA. There are delays which are occasionally caused by freight trains which use the same track. Metra owns the equipment (i.e., passenger cars and engines) and has contracts with the railroads (i.e., Union Pacific, Burlington Northern) to run the trains over their tracks.
It works well although delays happen, but it is quite reliable.
It works well although delays happen, but it is quite reliable.
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And how's the public transit system in Rogers?
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