With all with all of his criticism of trade deals, you know he hasn't read a single page of any of them. Hey, hey, hey ho, Donald Trump has got to go!
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I dont think i would want to live near a steel foundry nor a coal fire power plant without a strict EPA and although I am fond of goat cheese generally I am like a lot of people I don't eat a lot of dairy products anymore. Interesting discussion though.
Lacking sound ideas and success, all of this metal pan banging just demonstrates Trump's impotence as a lawmaker.
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I heard vultures are attacking effigies of Trump on Canadian dairy farms. He has once again transgressed the bounds of decency and social norms.
"Canadian agriculture manages to command a degree of sacredness that even the Pope would envy. If agriculture – from dairy protectionism in Quebec to maximum revenue entitlements on western grain – was truly opened to market forces, there would be outrage. Combines would roll onto Parliament Hill; ice cream would be hurled at an effigy of the Prime Minister. It would be chaos." Todd Hirsch, Economist
"Canadian agriculture manages to command a degree of sacredness that even the Pope would envy. If agriculture – from dairy protectionism in Quebec to maximum revenue entitlements on western grain – was truly opened to market forces, there would be outrage. Combines would roll onto Parliament Hill; ice cream would be hurled at an effigy of the Prime Minister. It would be chaos." Todd Hirsch, Economist
The USA sell $400 million more milk to Canada than Canada sells to the USA. Trump talks of "fair" trade but does not walk the talk. Maybe we should copy his "Buy America" and make it "Buy Canada".
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In case facts are relevant, Dairy is one area in which Canada is more protectionist than the United States, which is highly protective (ask Australia or New Zealand., who are the efficient producers). It is a fair criticism of NAFTA that it didn't free trade in the Canadian dairy and poultry industries or the US sugar industry or the maritime industry. That is a testament to the political power and campaign contributions of the protected industries. Trump is probably not the guy to fix this; he's too busy promising Americans they will eat more ice cream to lose weight
Overtime I hear Trump claiming something is a disaster, I think Trump you are the ultimate disaster.
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Can anyone remember back in the 70s when US steel companies decided it was not profitable to upgrade the steel plants; closed them down putting good paying jobs down the tubes? It was "cheaper" they said to import steel from Norway, South Korea and Japan, all who had modernized their steel manufacturing process. Please put the blame where it belongs, on the oligarchs who think "money money money" and not about us the workers. We are just casualties of the economic wars on the middle class, unions and honest politicians with a set of ethics. Trump is the standard barer charging down the road to perdition with concern for no one but himself and his progeny. Please remember Trump lost aAtlantic City by a fantastic large margin. They experienced his dealings first hand and know what is coming if her persists in his current ventures.
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In the earlier (of two) motion pics. titled, "The Day the Earth Stood Still" the entire planet is charged with coming up with the answer(s) to solving the severe problems of the world..famine, unrest and military posturing the inability to limit arms races along with open refusal by governments to communicate with one another over human rights abuses. We were a mess. I don't think that Klattu had the Donald in mind as even part of the answer for those problems all of which of course still exist
More bad policy proposals based on lies.
Ultimately, I think Klattu would have thrown in the towel and told Gort, "its hopeless, obliterate this place"!
About the Canadian milk issue: Trump is an udder disgrace!
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Trump anti Canadian milk tirade is an udder joke. The dairy industry in the U.S. Runs on illegal Mexican labor. Even Ben and jerrys milk is produced by illegal Mexican labor in Vermont. If trump wants to keep serving ice cream at trump tower he should stop whining about Canada and support immigration reforms that will keep American dairy farms in business.
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Planes are mostly made of aluminum and titanium, not steel...
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It would only be fitting that the bars on Donnie's cell are made with American steel.
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If president Trump is really serious about "buy American, hire American" maybe he should first require Ivanka to stop manufacturing all of her product lines in China.
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If Donald was really serious about buy American hire American he would employ more Americans at Mar a Lago.
Donald Trump expressed no objection to the visa category that hotels and resorts use the "H-2B" to attract low-cost, low-skilled seasonal labor.
Donald said “There are very few qualified Americans to do the job"
Donald Trump expressed no objection to the visa category that hotels and resorts use the "H-2B" to attract low-cost, low-skilled seasonal labor.
Donald said “There are very few qualified Americans to do the job"
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When oh when can we be free from the ramblings of this bumbling fool. Every day brings more bad theater .... trouble is; it's not theater.
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Oh Canada here again! In response to Trumps tweet "The US never should have given Canada it's independence 100 yrs ago". My response is: In 1866 Canadian representatives traveled to London to meet with the British government. On July 1, 1867, with passage of the British North America Act, the Dominion of Canada was officially established as a self-governing entity within the British Empire. Sorry Mr. Trump you never had Canada in the first place..someone please give this guy a history book!
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He would have to read it and somehow they would have to explain it all in "144 characters", for Trump, preferably less.
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Well I suppose it was just a matter of time before he took a jab at us. Usually we fly under the radar for most Americans, and we're just fine with that.
My partner and I support many American institutions. We have subscriptions to the New York Times, Washington Post, The Atlantic, New York review of books, and others. The PBS newshour is our go-to newscast after our own CBC National. We like to be informed. Those we'll keep. But now that we're retired, we don't shop the same way, and most purchases are consumables.
Visited friends in the states last year, but our trip to new york this fall is either on hold or postponed. Many Canadians are rethinking visits to the US. The thought of crossing the border these days is just not something we care to do, (we're a male couple together 27 years) and I for one do not want to be subject to some of your border guards.
So what to do. At this point I'm looking at other things we buy from the US. Although I don't believe in boycotts generally, I'm rethinking it in terms of the things I buy the most often. Like California wine, which I love. A list of 10 things that I can easily replace with other countries products. Trade organizations and the companies affected would be informed. Effective or not, I'd at least feel I 'd done something to protest against this most uninformed person at the head of your government.
nobody here but us chickens, er cows.
My partner and I support many American institutions. We have subscriptions to the New York Times, Washington Post, The Atlantic, New York review of books, and others. The PBS newshour is our go-to newscast after our own CBC National. We like to be informed. Those we'll keep. But now that we're retired, we don't shop the same way, and most purchases are consumables.
Visited friends in the states last year, but our trip to new york this fall is either on hold or postponed. Many Canadians are rethinking visits to the US. The thought of crossing the border these days is just not something we care to do, (we're a male couple together 27 years) and I for one do not want to be subject to some of your border guards.
So what to do. At this point I'm looking at other things we buy from the US. Although I don't believe in boycotts generally, I'm rethinking it in terms of the things I buy the most often. Like California wine, which I love. A list of 10 things that I can easily replace with other countries products. Trade organizations and the companies affected would be informed. Effective or not, I'd at least feel I 'd done something to protest against this most uninformed person at the head of your government.
nobody here but us chickens, er cows.
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Canadian Girl Guides (Scouts) who are all inclusive have stopped making trips to the US lest some of their members be stopped and humiliated as has the Toronto School board and many minor league teams hockey teams who are turning down invitations to participate in tournament play.
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I wish that Mr. Trump could get thru one day without saying something stupid and /or misleading. It is not likely. He finds a way to insult an ally every day : South Korea, Germany , UK, France, the list is lengthy.
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Picture this:
Trump is going to Canada.
Border guard to Trump: Do you have id
Trump to man: 'bout what?
Trump is going to Canada.
Border guard to Trump: Do you have id
Trump to man: 'bout what?
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"This has to do with worldwide, what’s happening." What he does to a sentence is a disgrace. It's a disgrace.
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This is worst than being dumb. Why can't our President read up about the history of our trade with our Allies before he opens his mouth. Who is instructing him? Can someone help him check his facts?
America, we are in serious trouble. We lack leadership, in the eyes of the world and our own people. Man oh Man!!
America, we are in serious trouble. We lack leadership, in the eyes of the world and our own people. Man oh Man!!
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If you look at his speech on his desk you can notice the people who are instructing him typed it out. The part about Canada is written using a sharpie. I'm guessing the sharpie part was written by the person US voters stuck the rest of the world with.
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Trump makes outlandish statements to satisfy his narcissistic ego, and heads for Florida to play golf. Are we tired of this yet?
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Anyone who thinks the Canadians are a friendly neighbor is sadly mistaken.
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You're right, they're downright cruel.
I can hear them laughing at our President's stupidity from here.
I can hear them laughing at our President's stupidity from here.
Sorry eh.
Remember 9/11 at all when 20,000+ Americans were taken in, bedded, medicated and housed when US airspace closed down and refused any compensation from the grateful guests? Or the US Iranian hostages Ottawa got out? Having said that, when abroad people who have mistaken me for an American, deeply apologize when corrected.
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All I see here is sane people jumping up and down. The folks that support Trump are many and couldn't care less what is written here. If they had to go to the polls today they would vote for him again. They would make him President all over again if they had to. That is the root of the problem.
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“I was in Wisconsin the other day,” Mr. Trump said. “What they’ve done to our farm workers is a disgrace. It’s a disgrace.”
Does #45 understand that workers in the livestock sectors are mostly illegal because there is no program for the industry to legally secure needed labor.
Does #45 understand that workers in the livestock sectors are mostly illegal because there is no program for the industry to legally secure needed labor.
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There is a global glut of steel. Steel companies worldwide are all seeking relief and protection from their respective governments.
Steel is the world's second largest industry.
No government in the world works to enforce WTO anti-dumping rules.
BOF steel making (from raw materials) accounts for 70% of total global steel production.
EAF steel making (from scrap steel) accounts for 28%
U.S. steel companies continuously seek government protection.
The U.S. steel industry is already a big recipient of corporate welfare.
Steel industry in the United States, has a long history of protection and has received billions of dollars in public subsidies.
Many of these protections are necessary as well as costly.
What will more protections do?
Trump talks but has no idea or ideas.
Steel is the world's second largest industry.
No government in the world works to enforce WTO anti-dumping rules.
BOF steel making (from raw materials) accounts for 70% of total global steel production.
EAF steel making (from scrap steel) accounts for 28%
U.S. steel companies continuously seek government protection.
The U.S. steel industry is already a big recipient of corporate welfare.
Steel industry in the United States, has a long history of protection and has received billions of dollars in public subsidies.
Many of these protections are necessary as well as costly.
What will more protections do?
Trump talks but has no idea or ideas.
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The overwhelming majority of Americans are NOT going to like this loser of a president attacking our long long long time beloved best friend nation to the north. This loser president is acting like some deranged outsider showing up and insulting your brother, then thinking you're going to like him for it. Next he'll be ordering the USS Carl Vinson to steam for the EAST coast of Canada to show Canada he means business about diary trade.
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"What they've done to our dairy farm workers is a disgrace."
Just another monumental lie and deflection from the mouth that is Donald Trump. These are the facts:
1. The US is the world's largest producer and exporter of cheese.
2. The US is the world's largest producer of milk and exporter of dry milk products.
3. The US leads every other milk and dairy producing country in growth of production in the last 10 years.
4. The average net farm income for dairy farmers increased 47% just in the past year.
Canada's protected dairy farmers may harm Canadians with their high domestic prices but Trump is simply lying about how they hurt American producers. But then that isn't unusual is it.
Just another monumental lie and deflection from the mouth that is Donald Trump. These are the facts:
1. The US is the world's largest producer and exporter of cheese.
2. The US is the world's largest producer of milk and exporter of dry milk products.
3. The US leads every other milk and dairy producing country in growth of production in the last 10 years.
4. The average net farm income for dairy farmers increased 47% just in the past year.
Canada's protected dairy farmers may harm Canadians with their high domestic prices but Trump is simply lying about how they hurt American producers. But then that isn't unusual is it.
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"We are groping here to see whether facts warrant a comprehensive solution....." Wilbur Ross, Sec. of Commerce.
"Groping" -- great word to use relation to a Trump rant. On point for this puerile "president." Also, here's a change -- actually using facts to make a decision?
"Groping" -- great word to use relation to a Trump rant. On point for this puerile "president." Also, here's a change -- actually using facts to make a decision?
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The Canadians are steeling our cattle!
“He’s manically focused on these trade issues,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist.
“He’s manically focused on these trade issues,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist.
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Why doesn't Trump roar about some important thing like gun control in America? Why doesn't he stop roaring about walls to protect us from our helpless Mexican neighbors? Why doesn't he focus on a National healthcare system for all Americans --not just his rich friends? Why doesn't he become a man?
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Keep those ratings up Donald! It's "sweeps week" everyday for you.
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Ok ok I'm sick of this chump.
Canadian consumers, teach him a lesson and start boycotting all American products.
Canadian businesses, find a new market (like China) for your products so you don't have to be dependant on a market ruled by an irrational fool.
Canadian gov, please pass regulations/pull out of NAFTA entirely, whatever is necessary to prevent further exports of CANADIAN water and CANADIAN electricity to the USA. I mean hey, if America is as perfect as Trump says they surely don't need our water/power, right?
Canadian consumers, teach him a lesson and start boycotting all American products.
Canadian businesses, find a new market (like China) for your products so you don't have to be dependant on a market ruled by an irrational fool.
Canadian gov, please pass regulations/pull out of NAFTA entirely, whatever is necessary to prevent further exports of CANADIAN water and CANADIAN electricity to the USA. I mean hey, if America is as perfect as Trump says they surely don't need our water/power, right?
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I would like to see a reporter ask Mr. Trump, when he speaks on Buy America, trade imbalance, etc. how he justifies his labeled products and his daughter's being imported from China.
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Over the years, he has been asked countless times about this blatant hypocricy, yet, he shrugs his shoulders and never really answers. Unfortunately, for some reason, the interviewer never really wanted to press the issue with him.
Probably, the best expose on this topic was actually on David Letterman's show when right in front of Trump, Letterman pulled out one of Trump's shirts and ties, one made in China, the other item in Bangladeish. The look on Trump's face was priceless.
Actually, showing everyone what he was doing was considerably more effective then constantly grilling him about the subject that somehow has been always easy for him to evade.
Probably, the best expose on this topic was actually on David Letterman's show when right in front of Trump, Letterman pulled out one of Trump's shirts and ties, one made in China, the other item in Bangladeish. The look on Trump's face was priceless.
Actually, showing everyone what he was doing was considerably more effective then constantly grilling him about the subject that somehow has been always easy for him to evade.
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It is unsettling indeed to hear anyone from the Trump administration declaring that "We are groping here" for anything, especially after the infamous locker-room chatter from the bigot boy on the Billy Bush bus.
As for those rapaciously disgraceful Canadians, their daily dairy dumps pose an existential threat to our national security. Worse, they feed our fulminating Commander-in-Chief more rhetorical fodder to milk for all it's worth.
Oh dear. These bovine puns are just too cheesy. They're making me cheddar! STOP!! Havarti 'nuff!!!
As for those rapaciously disgraceful Canadians, their daily dairy dumps pose an existential threat to our national security. Worse, they feed our fulminating Commander-in-Chief more rhetorical fodder to milk for all it's worth.
Oh dear. These bovine puns are just too cheesy. They're making me cheddar! STOP!! Havarti 'nuff!!!
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Here's how red-blooded Americans can bring jobs, lots of them, back to America: boycott anything that says Trump, Ivanka, or any other fake name they plaster over on Trump products which are made in any country other than the USA. Believe me, the (not my) President will finally learn to focus on a subject.
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The G7 meets in Sicily next month. So far, Trump has managed to antagonise Great Britain, Canada and Germany. Three to go - France, Italy and Japan. It's just a matter of time.
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The election in France will offer the Tweeter in Chief ample opportunities to dis the French.
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All the products made by companies owned by the Trump family are made overseas. When will they produce them in the U.S.? Why hasn't anyone questioned him directly about this?
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The difference between a great businessman and a hustler is the knowledge that a good deal for one side is called a lawsuit. Between nations, understanding this vital point avoids conflict.
Trump is merely a hustler, leaving a wide trail of lawsuits and ill will behind him his entire life. His negotiating style is to begin with threats, the more outrageous the better. Regardless of the final outcome details, his co-contractants are left with distrust and contempt for him..and now for the USA.
The Canadian dairy industry is unsubsidized but closely monitored for nutritional value. The heavily subsidized US industry created a cheap, vastly inferior product SPECIFICALLY to export Canada. Canadians, to protect their children, singled out this cynical US export and created a duty to eliminate the effect of US subsidizes. The question is easier to appreciate in reverse. Should Canada ship government-subsidized inferior food products, deemed unfit for Canadian consumption, to Americans to eat?
Trump is merely a hustler, leaving a wide trail of lawsuits and ill will behind him his entire life. His negotiating style is to begin with threats, the more outrageous the better. Regardless of the final outcome details, his co-contractants are left with distrust and contempt for him..and now for the USA.
The Canadian dairy industry is unsubsidized but closely monitored for nutritional value. The heavily subsidized US industry created a cheap, vastly inferior product SPECIFICALLY to export Canada. Canadians, to protect their children, singled out this cynical US export and created a duty to eliminate the effect of US subsidizes. The question is easier to appreciate in reverse. Should Canada ship government-subsidized inferior food products, deemed unfit for Canadian consumption, to Americans to eat?
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Speaking of steel and national security makes me think of the difference between the Bronze and Iron Ages in the Mediterranean.
Bronze is an alloy of copper and tin that could be forged by people at temperatures attainable using wood-based fuel. The problem (or blessing) was that copper and tin deposits were never found in the same country under the same ruler.
Tin was found in Cornwall, for example, while large copper deposits existed in Cyprus.
Thus the Bronze Age was only able to happen thanks to vigorous international trade in copper and tin.
This produced a natural limiting factor on the size and scope of wars. If you were a warring ruler, you had to make sure your war did nothing to disrupt trade with your sources of copper and tin.
Iron is different. Iron you can find in the ground just about everywhere. Once people were able to forge that iron into weapons, the balancing act of the Bronze Age was over. Wars became much easier to wage and their size and scope became much, much bigger. As did the number of casualties, military and civilian.
I think that's what Trump wants. He's itching to have his own war, so he wants his own weapons made from his own steel.
He should go back to the Iron Age where he belongs.
Bronze is an alloy of copper and tin that could be forged by people at temperatures attainable using wood-based fuel. The problem (or blessing) was that copper and tin deposits were never found in the same country under the same ruler.
Tin was found in Cornwall, for example, while large copper deposits existed in Cyprus.
Thus the Bronze Age was only able to happen thanks to vigorous international trade in copper and tin.
This produced a natural limiting factor on the size and scope of wars. If you were a warring ruler, you had to make sure your war did nothing to disrupt trade with your sources of copper and tin.
Iron is different. Iron you can find in the ground just about everywhere. Once people were able to forge that iron into weapons, the balancing act of the Bronze Age was over. Wars became much easier to wage and their size and scope became much, much bigger. As did the number of casualties, military and civilian.
I think that's what Trump wants. He's itching to have his own war, so he wants his own weapons made from his own steel.
He should go back to the Iron Age where he belongs.
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Oh, dear, a bully is there.
Dear Canadian government's whatever agency,
Please put Wisconsin promptly on the labels, so that I, as an individual consumer, will be able to boycott dairy products from Wisconsin.
Dear Canadian government's whatever agency,
Please put Wisconsin promptly on the labels, so that I, as an individual consumer, will be able to boycott dairy products from Wisconsin.
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I'm already boycotting all US products and I cancelled two trips to the states I planned to watch BlueJays road games this summer.
Not because I want to hurt good Americans/ those who didn't vote for Trump, but I want those who support him to understand the consequence of electing him.
Not because I want to hurt good Americans/ those who didn't vote for Trump, but I want those who support him to understand the consequence of electing him.
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I'm sure the pro-Canada pity party blaring from the left does not extend to the export of Alberta tar sands gunk through the XL pipeline. I'm sure they all missed Trudeau II's statement that any country that had huge oil deposits in the ground would get it out of the ground and market it. But, that's a story for another time.
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You can try but everyone knows our POTUS is the HeavyWeight Champ of Absurdity.
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The US needs its steel industry back for strategic purposes in the military. I get that.
Will there ever be a strategic question about not importing oil? I wonder...
Will there ever be a strategic question about not importing oil? I wonder...
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The problem starts when American dairy cows hear of the great benefits offered by Canada, and they saunter across the border to a new life. What Canadian border patrol agent is going to stop them? Are they going to ask for their papers? And as soon as they set hoof on Canadian soil they get set up with a Canadian Medicare ear tag which ensures FREE veterinary care for life, including well-calf care and old-age care.
Meanwhile, American dairy farmers, lurking about overgrown pastures and empty milking parlors (okay, "parlours," if you want to be fancy about it) are asking each other: "Hey man. Where's the cows?"
With no other choice than to go broke, American dairy farmers are forced to smuggle (over 20 foot fences!) inferior dairy cows from Mexico, who give something called "leche" which may look like milk, but nobody really knows what it is.
For decades, dairy breeders and scientists here in the good old U.S. of A. have developed cows who give a variety of superior and wholesome products, including whole milk, 2%, 1%, skim, half-and-half, cream, chocolate milk, plus, more recently, soy and almond milks in a variety of delicious flavors. And what do we do? We just let those cows lumber over the Northern border in to the open arms of greedy, usurping Canadian dairy farmers who offer them nothing more than clean bedding, warm milking machines, green pastures and soft music.
I commend Mr. Trump for his tireless efforts to punish our international "trading" partners.
Meanwhile, American dairy farmers, lurking about overgrown pastures and empty milking parlors (okay, "parlours," if you want to be fancy about it) are asking each other: "Hey man. Where's the cows?"
With no other choice than to go broke, American dairy farmers are forced to smuggle (over 20 foot fences!) inferior dairy cows from Mexico, who give something called "leche" which may look like milk, but nobody really knows what it is.
For decades, dairy breeders and scientists here in the good old U.S. of A. have developed cows who give a variety of superior and wholesome products, including whole milk, 2%, 1%, skim, half-and-half, cream, chocolate milk, plus, more recently, soy and almond milks in a variety of delicious flavors. And what do we do? We just let those cows lumber over the Northern border in to the open arms of greedy, usurping Canadian dairy farmers who offer them nothing more than clean bedding, warm milking machines, green pastures and soft music.
I commend Mr. Trump for his tireless efforts to punish our international "trading" partners.
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Once again, I know why I read the reader comments in the NYTimes. Many people here have made essential points about this bombast, that should have been included in the article. In the rush to publish, key facts are missing (like Nafta NOT INCLUDING DAIRY AND LUMBER). But that is why these comments are so essential, and enjoyable. Keep up the good work readers, filling in the holes so we may all get the complete picture.
A weary Canadian.
A weary Canadian.
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In the recent past, American softwood lumber producers launched a series of shameless, vexatious actions against the Canadian industry, claiming that Soviet Canuckistan subsidizes its softwood exports into the US. They all came under the review of NAFTA panels on which America held a majority, yet they were still found to be specious. No matter that every one of these challenges was defeated, the industry immediately would launch another one. The reason was simply that the US side didn't want Canadian producers to expand their market share beyond an "acceptable" level-acceptable to the US producers. So much for the famous US reliance on the market to produce the proper results. And now, for the sake of 75 farms, it's starting again. I guess it's just easier to pick on a small country, like Canada, than to confront a giant like China. Especially a giant to whom the US owes so much money. Sad. But not terribly surprising.
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As you know America is the poster child for "pork barrel" politics. Local business man has an issue and goes running to the local senator or congressman whom, in turn, and in order to increase his chances of getting re-elected, gives a speech about it and then goes running to Washington.
The problem is, the complaining is usually baseless and nothing happens. I see Trump is taking his cue from the same program.
The problem is, the complaining is usually baseless and nothing happens. I see Trump is taking his cue from the same program.
We must look at the big picture regarding anything that comes out of Trump's mouth: he's seriously mentally ill, has verified strong Russian ties, vast conflicts of interest and not the smallest idea of what he is doing.
The best result from all of the problems he causes is to campaign for appointment of an independent prosecutor. Once he and his team are removed our country can go about cleaning up the mess he created.
The best result from all of the problems he causes is to campaign for appointment of an independent prosecutor. Once he and his team are removed our country can go about cleaning up the mess he created.
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Thanks to the powerful farm lobby in our country, American farmers -- mostly Republicans who frequently complain how hard they work while their tax dollars go to urban "welfare queens" -- are all on the dole themselves. Government price controls subsidize their profits while they game the system at every turn with crop insurance and CRP payments. CRP to the uninitiated is the Conservation Reserve Program, whose original purpose was to encourage farmers NOT to plant crops on small portions of their land to provide habitat for wildlife and preserve the original environment. It started off as a great idea, preserving valuable wetlands and grasslands, but has now bloated into what I call the Crop Reduction Program, paying farmers between $70 and $144 per acre not to grow anything. Some take full advantage of this by enrolling their entire farms in CRP, letting thousands of acres lie fallow while raking in CRP welfare under rental contracts lasting 10-15 years. As of March 2016, 23.8 million acres of farmland were enrolled in CRP, costing taxpayers $1.6-$3.4 Trillion -- yes trillion. You don't see Republicans complaining about those welfare queens.
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Nobody could have said it better.Needs to be on social media.
Per the USDA annual budget, the total 2016 CRP outlay will be approximately $2 billion. Depending on your priorities and your familiarity with the recipients of the program, this may still be a large number (although the entire federal budget is about $3 trillion), but certainly not anywhere near the trillions you site in your post. Where did you get your facts? What is the time frame for the financial statistics you are quoting?
dave:
I can recall seeing a video of a rather wealthy Midwest Republican Congressman rancher whom had just received a farm subsidy for $250,000 while at the same time he was a introducing a bill to significantly cut back on food stamps to poor people in his jurisdiction.
Whether or not the numbers are accurate, do you think the above scenario is OK and what does it really say about the farm subsidy program and who gets the money?
I can recall seeing a video of a rather wealthy Midwest Republican Congressman rancher whom had just received a farm subsidy for $250,000 while at the same time he was a introducing a bill to significantly cut back on food stamps to poor people in his jurisdiction.
Whether or not the numbers are accurate, do you think the above scenario is OK and what does it really say about the farm subsidy program and who gets the money?
“I was in Wisconsin the other day,” Mr. Trump said. “What they’ve done to our farm workers is a disgrace. It’s a disgrace.” He was responding to 75, yes 75 dairy farmers in Wisconsin. ((There are an estimated 51,000 dairy farmers in the US.)
Of course, always on the cutting edge of knowledge, he forgot to mention that the US has a $400 million surplus in dairy product trade with Canada.
Of course, always on the cutting edge of knowledge, he forgot to mention that the US has a $400 million surplus in dairy product trade with Canada.
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It troubling, yet somewhat amusing, to hear Trump talk about limiting trade and protecting American jobs, given all the jobs and production that he and his family have outsourced for many years.
Nor have we heard him say that they are going to pull any of those jobs back into the US. Carrier, BMW, China and now Canada all get badmouthed for taking away jobs from Americans, but I don't recall Trump getting after Jared and Ivanka, let alone himself, for the very same thing. Another case of 'Do as I say, not as I do. One rule for me, another for you'.
Minor point on "What they've done to our dairy farm workers.." Mr. Trump may not have gotten outside of NYC or Mar-a-Lago far enough to realize this, but most of our dairy farm workers these days are Mexicans. It's nice to see that he's finally concerned about the welfare and continued employment of immigrants.
Nor have we heard him say that they are going to pull any of those jobs back into the US. Carrier, BMW, China and now Canada all get badmouthed for taking away jobs from Americans, but I don't recall Trump getting after Jared and Ivanka, let alone himself, for the very same thing. Another case of 'Do as I say, not as I do. One rule for me, another for you'.
Minor point on "What they've done to our dairy farm workers.." Mr. Trump may not have gotten outside of NYC or Mar-a-Lago far enough to realize this, but most of our dairy farm workers these days are Mexicans. It's nice to see that he's finally concerned about the welfare and continued employment of immigrants.
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The Saudi's have been dumping oil on us for decades and we dump military equipment back on them in return. The cost has been the death of untold millions and a refugee crisis that threatens to destabilize liberal democracy across the globe. These liberal democracies in Europe, Japan and the US have lead the largest economic expansion in the history of the world.
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good morning do nothing congress.hello 25th amendment.what more do you lug heads need to depose an unfit president??what are you waiting for??do you honestly think that none of bozo's disastrous 100 days are going to stain you??show some moxie and spine and do your job.the more you put off the inevitable,the more damage YOU are doing to our country.
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Forget it, GOP is a sinking ship in slow motion and the crew doesn't know it. Or GOP is waiting for Popeye to eat his spinach. Either way folks they are going 20,000 leagues under.
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The only disgrace that is apparent is that we have elected a man as president who has no relevant experience, is poorly informed, and prides himself on making decisions based on his gut. Where is corporate America? They would not hire someone so unqualified for any position in their company.
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My thanks to the commenters here who offered actual facts - such as the effects of U.S. subsidies to the dairy industry - to counter Trump's usual nonsense.
I imagine his many apologists will, as usual, weasel their way out of that and other stuff here.
I imagine his many apologists will, as usual, weasel their way out of that and other stuff here.
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Until, they get to the negotiating table where they have to do deal in REAL, NOT "alternative" facts.
Dear Donald, please remember that if the country's language is English that we like them.
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Ahh, but Canada's language is both English and French, and we don't like French.
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YOU don't like french…don't speak for me.
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Visit Quebec as we did a few years ago and you will change your mind.
Perhaps Mr. Nugent or Ms. Palin can advise him with wise and sensible counsel. It is heartening to see Mr. Trump turn to a trusted "brain trust" to offer policy guidance in these challenging times. I'm happy to see the Alaskan Rexford Tugwell is back in public service and lending the Trump White House a much-needed touch of dignity and gravitas.
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Since Trump was elected, for the first time in my life I've begun to check 'country of origin' labels of the products I buy. It is a small protest against Trump's hate of Canada that I forgo US products. I will miss my Apple stuff though.
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Apple is in California, though, and California would, I honestly believe, run like hell from the rest of the USA at this point in time, given even half a chance.
Apparently, he's taking advice from his intellectual equals: Palin, Nugent, and whatever his name is. Good thing he had 4 hours to devote to them.
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I understand Iceland is undermining the American herring pickling business. Watch out - your next!
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he will do anything to get the focus off of Russian involvement in our government... he is a coward and scared
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We’re still waiting for Trump's Tax Returns - let NYT and the rest of the media focus on that. To paraphrase Trump - please hack the so-called President's tax returns please, in order to get real clarity about him. Focus, focus!!!
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So he's dissed Australia over refugees, the UK over non-existent surveillance, and now Canada over trade.
Please, no one tell him about New Zealand and their succulent lamb.
Please, no one tell him about New Zealand and their succulent lamb.
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Don't worry....his Mighty Armada is now steaming toward the Outer Hebrides because they are still defiantly making Harris tweed. Wait....the Armada is heading South? Who knew?
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Another week, another passel of idiotic statements from our so-called President!
Given that Donny's statements are so frequent and far-ranging, would it not be easier to present them in some sort of graphical form? For example, a bar chart with several columns: uninformed trade attacks, irresponsible sabre-rattling, anti-immigrant rants, etc.
You could update the vertical bars on a weekly basis to show the number of additional comments in each category. Just a thought to save some space.
Given that Donny's statements are so frequent and far-ranging, would it not be easier to present them in some sort of graphical form? For example, a bar chart with several columns: uninformed trade attacks, irresponsible sabre-rattling, anti-immigrant rants, etc.
You could update the vertical bars on a weekly basis to show the number of additional comments in each category. Just a thought to save some space.
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The vertical bars I'd like to see are those steel ones with him pouting behind them.
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The vertical bars would be so high, you would need a logarithmic scale, I think!? ;)
And where did the steel come from for his many Trump towers? Was it really all American made?
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It would be interesting to see where the steel came from that Trump and his associates have and are using in their buildings. I am sure he used American made steel that was more expensive. Right ?
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Trade is complicated, but who knew? Another embarrassing episode of willful ignorance in the executive branch, regardless of the consequences.
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He seems determined to ruin the United State's relationships with our two closest neighbors. Is this his idea or was it one of the things Putin put on the list for him to do?
Canada, you have been a great neighbor and I know most of my friends would apologize to you and the rest of the world for this incompetent occupier of the White House, Petulant Trump.
Canada, you have been a great neighbor and I know most of my friends would apologize to you and the rest of the world for this incompetent occupier of the White House, Petulant Trump.
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"“I was in Wisconsin the other day,” Mr. Trump said. “What they’ve done to our farm workers is a disgrace. It’s a disgrace.”"
Is he referring to all "our" farm workers from Mexico who do the work Americans are not tough enough or desperate enough to do? Just wondering.
Is he referring to all "our" farm workers from Mexico who do the work Americans are not tough enough or desperate enough to do? Just wondering.
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Now seems to be a good time to bring back out the classic Robin Williams' quote that Canada is the nice neighbor leaving above the meth lab. Poor Canada must feel as held hostage by the undereducated, unemployed, angry white men in the flyover states as the rest of us do. Please, someone, pay the ransom!
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I fear the ransom is this country itself.
Donald Trump is nothing more than a bully, and a stupid one at that. This monumentally ignorant man should be ignored whenever possible. He's trying to turn the entire country into a white-trash trailer park. He's already polluted the office of President. He shouldn't be allowed to do the same to the country.
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I'll defend him on that one:
1. Most Bullies are, they use it to deflect from (said) lack of intellect.
2. HowEva, he's not as uninformed as much as he relishes saying whatever the last thing he heard that he agrees with.
He seems to have the attention span of a 3yr old.
1. Most Bullies are, they use it to deflect from (said) lack of intellect.
2. HowEva, he's not as uninformed as much as he relishes saying whatever the last thing he heard that he agrees with.
He seems to have the attention span of a 3yr old.
“He’s [Trump's] manically focused on these trade issues,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist.
I guess he would know best!
I guess he would know best!
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It doesn't appear that the other folks in the room are happy/proud to be there.
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Happy? It looks like a hostage video.
Trump's lack of knowledge on all issues, all subjects, all he issues statements or tweets on is a dangerous ignorance which will bring us all to no good end. He shows once more, on this dairy issue, his inability to rationally and intelligently lead.
Additionally, he also sounds pugnacious because he feels they did want he wanted, only they did it first - he is at his deepest heart a bully, a bully unarmed with intelligence or maturity.
Additionally, he also sounds pugnacious because he feels they did want he wanted, only they did it first - he is at his deepest heart a bully, a bully unarmed with intelligence or maturity.
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What a cry baby. Does this guy ever do anything except whine, blame and complain?
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Trump just wants the US to be able to bully other countries more than we already do. He is not anti globalism, he is anti justice, anti human. He seems to think that we don't hurt other people or countries enough.
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Dear NYTimes, please stop fawning on Donald Trump. He "Roars" on trade? He is just stupid again - the comments point out that dairy and lumber are not included in NAFTA. He is whining, whimpering, ranting, because he is illiterate when it comes to trade and government. Stop making him seem like a powerful person, he is making a complete fool of himself and our country. And by the way, who cares what Trump thinks about the effect of a police shooting on the French election? How could you put this on the front page of the paper? He's just doing the Russian's work for them in trying to disrupt that election and you're helping him do it. Just Stop!
If only 45 would educate himself before opening his foolish mouth. The U.S. has a $400 million trade surplus with Canada where dairy products are concerned.
The only disgrace here is the resident of the oval office. America won't have any friends left (well, except nobodies like Palin and Nugent - ugh) by the time idiot boy is finished his incompetent and, we fervently hope, short reign.
The only disgrace here is the resident of the oval office. America won't have any friends left (well, except nobodies like Palin and Nugent - ugh) by the time idiot boy is finished his incompetent and, we fervently hope, short reign.
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Another day, another pouting rant from President Puerile. Before he gets done the entire world will hate all Americans for granting this cipher power.
Atlas Vomits!
Atlas Vomits!
What a novel idea! Train your guns (or your bluster) at your allies--great "winning" strategy.
Has anyone tracked just how much damage this inept man is causing to the economy by unsettling both consumers and producers?
Has anyone tracked just how much damage this inept man is causing to the economy by unsettling both consumers and producers?
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He's not 'roaring' on trade. That implies he some kind of strong lion.
He is embarrassing us all by whining on international trade issues that he does not fully understand.
He is embarrassing us all by whining on international trade issues that he does not fully understand.
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He embarrassed us all by "winning" the Presidency.
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Trump lives in a pre-industrial world - a world where trade was a battle of all against all and any gain by one nation was a proportionate loss for another. That view may have worked in the 17'th century for Jean-Baptiste Colbert and Louis XIV, but in the 20'th century the liberal economic order has produced more wealth for more people in more countries than any other economic system mankind's tried in the last 10,000 years. Sure, there are problems that need to be addressed - none of which will be by Trump and the collection of incompetent demagogues he's surrounded himself with - but you'd be very foolish not to acknowledge the overwhelming good that free trade has wrought not just for the U.S., but for the entire world.
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Let the demagogue Trump start in his own backyard.
Have all his and Ivanka's products withdrawn from slave labor countries and made here in the USA.
Then I will believe him re bringing back jobs to America.
Have all his and Ivanka's products withdrawn from slave labor countries and made here in the USA.
Then I will believe him re bringing back jobs to America.
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Exactly! Ivanka and 45 are still having their merchandise manufactured in China and in Southeast Asia. As always, he feels he doesn't have to follow the rules he wants to set for others. He scapegoats Canada thinking we won't notice he's now supporting continued American manufacturing in China.
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Thank you very much for your reply , agreed, the demagogue Trump at it again.
If dems had any guts they would keep hammering him on it, but they are too in bed with big corps. too.
Bring on Bernie....
If dems had any guts they would keep hammering him on it, but they are too in bed with big corps. too.
Bring on Bernie....
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Dont worry Trump will change his mind next week when he has a meeting with reality.
Is it just me or are these Oval Office full of people surrounding Trump starting to look like a manifestation of mental illness ?
Is it just me or are these Oval Office full of people surrounding Trump starting to look like a manifestation of mental illness ?
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Our President is mentally ill, evil or stupid. Why publicly criticize our closest neighbor and friend and our largest trading partner? Just because he can, I guess. Our trade with Canada is well-balanced on the whole and would seem to be the kind of mutually beneficial relationship we would hope to have with every country.. UGH.
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"Our President is mentally ill, evil or stupid. "
Horace - Perhaps all three simultaneously?
Horace - Perhaps all three simultaneously?
Once again, Trump has his facts wrong. First, America exports $200 million more a year in dairy products to Canada than it imports. Second, it was changes to dairy regulations in the US that harmed dairy farmers. Blaming Canada is specious and wrong headed. But then, is that any surprise?
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From the man and his family who continue to this day to manufacture ALL their products in China. What a fraud!
Trump is poorly informed. What else is new?
The real news is that Bannon is back "in".
I guess he's got too much dirt on his boss for Trump to risk a smug "you're fired!".
The real news is that Bannon is back "in".
I guess he's got too much dirt on his boss for Trump to risk a smug "you're fired!".
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“The flurry of anti-trade action appears to signal a comeback for the nationalist wing of the White House, but there has not yet been a concrete shift in policy.”
Policy? Policy?? WHAT policy?
Huff, bluster, chest-thumping, self-aggrandizing saber-rattling opinion yes….but informed cognitive concrete policy, PLEASE!
No worries though. With Trump it’s all sooooo “this week,” so “three-day-news-cycle.” It’ll all vaporize by May 1st as he moves on to some other pointless manufactured crisis or affront du’ jour.
With Trump there IS no “concrete.” There IS no “cement” in this man. “Ferment” perhaps, or “foment” more like it, but certainly no “cement.”
Policy? Policy?? WHAT policy?
Huff, bluster, chest-thumping, self-aggrandizing saber-rattling opinion yes….but informed cognitive concrete policy, PLEASE!
No worries though. With Trump it’s all sooooo “this week,” so “three-day-news-cycle.” It’ll all vaporize by May 1st as he moves on to some other pointless manufactured crisis or affront du’ jour.
With Trump there IS no “concrete.” There IS no “cement” in this man. “Ferment” perhaps, or “foment” more like it, but certainly no “cement.”
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Oh come on Mr. Trump...Canada! Really! Must you! Is everything always about getting attention for yourself? Lay off. DO something constructive and enriching for yourself, this country and the whole world: do some reading about what is really going on. Sorry world...Trump is such an embarrassment. All Americans are not like him.
Trump is so out of his depth!
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Or he's supremely gifted at hiding that he's not.
More sound and fury signifying nothing, absolutely nothing.
That's The Republican President, all sound and fury, and a strange hairdo covering a vacant lot.
That's The Republican President, all sound and fury, and a strange hairdo covering a vacant lot.
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why not just write, "Madman President is at it Again" and be done with it. This has nothing to do with trade. It only has to do with Trump's uninformed, selfish, narcissistic need to bully, be brash and offensive, find enemies in his rollodex of who he might be able to bully, and, finally, his unstable mental status. Reporting this latest im beclity as if it is serious news is a mistake. No one with half a brain and a quarter of a morality believes anything he says or does. He is unstable and that's that. Trade, military, Americans rights etc are just his way of saying, If you don't get on yr knees and do right by me I'm going to hurt you. And, the truth is, he can't.
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Keep your trap shut, Mr. Trump.
Evidently you can't limit yourself to insulting American citizens, you feel compelled to insult our allies and neighbors as well.
If you can't say anything intelligent, don't say anything at all.
We will be a lot safer.
Evidently you can't limit yourself to insulting American citizens, you feel compelled to insult our allies and neighbors as well.
If you can't say anything intelligent, don't say anything at all.
We will be a lot safer.
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Can President Trump say "Gerrymander"?
Watch the pea, folks.
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Grampa's having a rant children, just stay silent and stare at the floor until he's done.
Our cows woke up this morning udderly devastated by the President's comments, but don't worry, they"ll get over it.
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"Canadian Bacon" with John Candy. American President starts war with Canada to cover up his incompetence. Great movie.
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O Canada we stand on guard for thee.
I'm one of millions of your friends down here, Canada. I'll come over as often as I can -- it's just an hour's pleasant drive -- and buy your cheeses, your yarn, your honey. Revive my spirits with your energy and sense of humor. And have great conversations with you everywhere I go.
Pretty soon, we'll get rid of this idiot at the helm (giggling here because I just know he hasn't a clue about what that mean.) Meanwhile, don't let him upset your day.
Love,
Many, many of us.
I'm one of millions of your friends down here, Canada. I'll come over as often as I can -- it's just an hour's pleasant drive -- and buy your cheeses, your yarn, your honey. Revive my spirits with your energy and sense of humor. And have great conversations with you everywhere I go.
Pretty soon, we'll get rid of this idiot at the helm (giggling here because I just know he hasn't a clue about what that mean.) Meanwhile, don't let him upset your day.
Love,
Many, many of us.
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Rea:
It has now pretty much resorted to only, shaking our heads and rolling our eyes sometimes wondering and waiting to see what will this buffoon say or do today? I am afraid no one around these parts takes Trump very seriously anymore. My much more serious concern has always been, what has happened to America in the last three decades or so that has allowed a clown like this to be even considered a remote possibility as a Presidential candidate, let alone get elected?
Americans are going to have to think about and deal with that issue very seriously going forward while making the necessary changes in assuring something like this never happens again. The current "status quo" corporately controlled political system in America has become unworkable and unresponsive to the vast majority of its citizens.
It has now pretty much resorted to only, shaking our heads and rolling our eyes sometimes wondering and waiting to see what will this buffoon say or do today? I am afraid no one around these parts takes Trump very seriously anymore. My much more serious concern has always been, what has happened to America in the last three decades or so that has allowed a clown like this to be even considered a remote possibility as a Presidential candidate, let alone get elected?
Americans are going to have to think about and deal with that issue very seriously going forward while making the necessary changes in assuring something like this never happens again. The current "status quo" corporately controlled political system in America has become unworkable and unresponsive to the vast majority of its citizens.
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Trump is out of his mind.
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Here in British Columbia we have a subset of consumers who drive across the border to northern Washington to purchase cheap American milk and cheese. Meanwhile, Canadian dairy producers are governed under a milk quota system that actually limits production.
The province also is a net exporter of excess power produced through hydro-electric facilities; that power is shipped to the United States, particularly the western states of California, Washington and Oregon. But that power also finds its way to the midwest, as well. It comes as Canadians pay higher prices for power, while American consumers get access to our production.
It seems passing strange that the Trump administration would pick a fight with its largest and most stable trading partner over ultra-filtered milk produced in Wisconsin but not sold to the American public, and exported only to Canada to avoid tariffs. Isn't Canada within its right to also protect its own dairy industry?
The province also is a net exporter of excess power produced through hydro-electric facilities; that power is shipped to the United States, particularly the western states of California, Washington and Oregon. But that power also finds its way to the midwest, as well. It comes as Canadians pay higher prices for power, while American consumers get access to our production.
It seems passing strange that the Trump administration would pick a fight with its largest and most stable trading partner over ultra-filtered milk produced in Wisconsin but not sold to the American public, and exported only to Canada to avoid tariffs. Isn't Canada within its right to also protect its own dairy industry?
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Thank you for expressing it so well. Maybe there are things that they are losing at, but what does he expect? Does he really think that the US deserves to be on the winning end of everything? It appears so. I'd love for him to rip up NAFTA. They take our water and our energy while Canadians consume so much from US companies. How will ripping up NAFTA affect their bottom line. I'm really just very speechless. So he talks like this as though he's going to negotiate these great deals as the. If negotiator, but he's yet to do anything substantial.
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Unfortunately, in a trade war, everyone loses
Trump wants to negotiate with an "I win, you lose" mentality. That may work when trying to swindle contractors or investors. Trade, and especially international trade, does not work like that. You make an agreement that will enhance value to both sides. And it is complicated and full of nuanced options and choices. Something our accidental president knows nothing about.
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Accidental? I think you mean "Russian."
Or, as I like to think of it, the touted "business experience" of a smashmouth outerborough slumlord is not a skill-set that translates to the Presidency of the U.S.
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The USG (both in Congress and in the White House) interpretation of the "spirit" of the JCPOA quite obviously is much different from the Iranian interpretation of its "spirit." It seems to me that strategic wisdom requires that interpretation of the pact should be confined to its actual text, not pipe dreams about what the U.S. (or the G5+1 or Iran) wishes it said, as the President's remarks said yesterday.
Dear American People;
Emperor Trump has no clothes. The sooner you realize this - whether you are a Democrat (you probably already do) or Republican (you need to take off your rose colored glasses) - the better off we will all be.
Me, I'm just a business owner who, on a daily basis, tries to read the tea leaves to determine what my products might cost to manufacture. I find it increasingly difficult to do so with each proclamation issued forth from the Emperor's mouth. He does so much more harm than good, and we will all end up paying for it.
Emperor Trump has no clothes. The sooner you realize this - whether you are a Democrat (you probably already do) or Republican (you need to take off your rose colored glasses) - the better off we will all be.
Me, I'm just a business owner who, on a daily basis, tries to read the tea leaves to determine what my products might cost to manufacture. I find it increasingly difficult to do so with each proclamation issued forth from the Emperor's mouth. He does so much more harm than good, and we will all end up paying for it.
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I wish Trump would provide more detailed facts to back up his statements. "Dumping" is a classic trade issue that the WTO and (earlier) the GATT does not allow, allowing negatively affected countries to impose countervailing duties as redress. "Export subsidies" are another classic trade issue, where the WTO/GATT has permitted negatively affected importing countries to increase import tariffs accordingly. I would be much more supportive of actions to combat dumping, export subsidies or other proscribed international trade practices if I saw the full detail and analysis on a given issue. The agency charged normally with doing this is the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR), the office where Rob Portman once was the administrator. In other words, Mr. Trump, lead with hard data and intelligence that lays out the full case.
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We love you guys. I have been vacationing in the US for all my 55 years, my brother in law is American.
Most Canadians are very pleased with the rational tone our government has taken so far in dealing with our new loud neighbour to the south; we are hoping that reason/sanity can re-assert itself in the white house before serious harm to our relations happens.
We might be very polite and nice up here but no Canadian government would be able to survive the next election if it allowed itself to be bullied.
Most Canadians are very pleased with the rational tone our government has taken so far in dealing with our new loud neighbour to the south; we are hoping that reason/sanity can re-assert itself in the white house before serious harm to our relations happens.
We might be very polite and nice up here but no Canadian government would be able to survive the next election if it allowed itself to be bullied.
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I've never studied economics nor international trade, so I'm very confused by all of this. But from my uninformed, naive perspective, here's what Trump's tirades about trade sound like to me:
"I believe in the pressures of free-market capitalism. Except when I'm not winning in the system. Then I'll add extra rules to the game."
"I'll negotiate these new rules with other countries. And I'll negiotiate rules that favor us, even though we don't have any real leverage to do so."
"When other countries don't like my new rules, I'll call them nasty names. That's our leverage; we're America!"
"Realizing that I can't control what other countries do, I'll create new rules for the game within America. That'll show low-info voters that I'm tough and actually succeeding at something."
"But when other countries do the same thing and create internal rules to protect their own citizens, I'll resort to calling them nasty names."
"But I'll confuse everyone by telling my staff to announce to the world to "Stop believing literally in everything I say. Instead, watch what I do." Which is actually nothing; so they don't have anything to worry about."
"By the way: My new rules won't apply to the industries that I personally own in other countries, like real estate and clothing. After all, look at the yuge profits that I'm boosting our economy with. I know how to game the system! I'm a role-model for making America great again!"
Someone please correct me if I've got this all wrong....
"I believe in the pressures of free-market capitalism. Except when I'm not winning in the system. Then I'll add extra rules to the game."
"I'll negotiate these new rules with other countries. And I'll negiotiate rules that favor us, even though we don't have any real leverage to do so."
"When other countries don't like my new rules, I'll call them nasty names. That's our leverage; we're America!"
"Realizing that I can't control what other countries do, I'll create new rules for the game within America. That'll show low-info voters that I'm tough and actually succeeding at something."
"But when other countries do the same thing and create internal rules to protect their own citizens, I'll resort to calling them nasty names."
"But I'll confuse everyone by telling my staff to announce to the world to "Stop believing literally in everything I say. Instead, watch what I do." Which is actually nothing; so they don't have anything to worry about."
"By the way: My new rules won't apply to the industries that I personally own in other countries, like real estate and clothing. After all, look at the yuge profits that I'm boosting our economy with. I know how to game the system! I'm a role-model for making America great again!"
Someone please correct me if I've got this all wrong....
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Sounds about right... And when he tinkers with NAFTA and blows it up ( worse case scenario) how is that not going to be detrimental to the US companies and workers?
We are so intricately intertwined, he really could do a lot more damage than good.
We are so intricately intertwined, he really could do a lot more damage than good.
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It is easy to show mathematically, that when a big wage country trade with a low wage country the pay in the high wage country has to fall.
Canada is not a lie wage country, but Mexico, China, etc are.
The current trade regime is designed by for and of global corporations, and gives them all of the advantages over countries and their citizens.
Trump will take citizen dissatisfaction with the current trade regime and use it as an excuse to make things worse. I'll be surprised if he doesn't pass TPP in the next year.
But we do need to fix this, and centrist Democrats who pretend the current system is not unfair made Trump possible.
Canada is not a lie wage country, but Mexico, China, etc are.
The current trade regime is designed by for and of global corporations, and gives them all of the advantages over countries and their citizens.
Trump will take citizen dissatisfaction with the current trade regime and use it as an excuse to make things worse. I'll be surprised if he doesn't pass TPP in the next year.
But we do need to fix this, and centrist Democrats who pretend the current system is not unfair made Trump possible.
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People who think Trump and his appointees have any interest in actually fixing it are the ones who make Trump possible.
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Allowing China's steel to be imported into the U.S. should be done with the understanding that China produces much more steel than the world market need and its government subsidizes production. Eliminating subsidies or reducing production would have the effect of causing Chinese companies to lay off hundreds of thousands of workers. The Chinese government would then be faced with what to do with all those workers. The Donald Trumps of our country demand a "great deal"and prefer cheaper imports. Tariffs and fines have done nothing. Congress has had no appetite to address Chinese dumping of steel in any meaningful way. Canada and the U.S. have been good trade partners. For any U.S. complaint you would probably find a Canadian complaint including the observation that in dairy farming products we have a $400 million surplus in trade with Canada. Agricultural products are governmentally subsidized all over the world. Dairy products have been subsidized for many years by the U.S. When Trump and his cronies put themselves in line for supporting American industries with their behaviors perhaps our legislators will be more willing and have more support for action. However, it is all unlikely to make much more than a small short-term different to our workforce. Trump cannot resist using his office to benefit himself. He is unlikely to truly support anything more than helping Wilbur Ross with his American steel investments.
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More rhetoric and bluster for his voters. This will be front page news for a couple of weeks and then quietly we will hear that this is a more complicated topic than he thought and it will disappear or there will be some token policy adjustment so he can claim victory Unfortunately, once again our allies will be vilified and will not forget .
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Meanwhile, it is reported that Exxon seeks a lucrative trade deal in Russia.
And to help keep things rolling, Trump also tweets this morning to pull for Putin's other pet, Le Pen.
Putin helped Trump win America, and now Trump will help Putin weaken Europe.
The purpose of that little show in Syria is becoming clearer:
It was Trump's Russian Reset, a PR stunt trying to put as much daylight as possible between him and Putin.
But the backroom deals were made and there's a timetable to stick to. Now Trump will make a big production about needing to work together with Russia to defeat ISIS.
And to help keep things rolling, Trump also tweets this morning to pull for Putin's other pet, Le Pen.
Putin helped Trump win America, and now Trump will help Putin weaken Europe.
The purpose of that little show in Syria is becoming clearer:
It was Trump's Russian Reset, a PR stunt trying to put as much daylight as possible between him and Putin.
But the backroom deals were made and there's a timetable to stick to. Now Trump will make a big production about needing to work together with Russia to defeat ISIS.
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Don't forget that the Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, is a recent graduate of the Exxon/Mobil school of environmental destruction.
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Evidently Trump wants to destroy the US export markets and cause a deep recession . Brilliant move by the Donald. Let's all congratulate 70,000 LoFos in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania who saddled our country and the world with him.
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Trump personally has not a single true friend. Sooner or later -likely sooner- America will have no friends either.
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So now Trump has "down-on-their-luck U.S. dairy farmers" on his radar screen. That is not good news for you if you are actually a worker bee in the dairy industry -- especially if your health insurance is tenuous.
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Trump is such an abject failure that he needs more imagined enemies to distract the public from the truth, so yesterday Canada joined the ranks of Australia and Germany, despite the fact that several weeks ago he assured the Prime Minister of Canada that NAFTA would only need a few "tweaks" and extolled the virtues of the Canada-US relationship.
This of course only confirms that foreign countries cannot have a shred of confidence doing business with the US Government because the word of its head of state simply cannot be taken seriously or trusted - it will change as a function of day to day self-centered political expediency, not any concept of considered policy governing the country's international relations.
The clownish and ignorant behaviour of this White House demonstrates that dispute settlement procedures built into these trade agreements mean nothing when the true intent of these fools is to destroy any concept of orderly governance and international relations if it plays well to some vested interest.
The deep, fundamental meaning of Trump's outburst is that governance in the USA has given way to ignorance, irresponsibility and deceit on a grand scale, and in such a context it is not possible to negotiate anything. Better we wait it out till he is impeached - as cooler heads will prevail, then resume getting on with business. Trump may temporarily dent the long-standing Canada-US relationship, but it will outlast him, his malevolence and his incompetence.
This of course only confirms that foreign countries cannot have a shred of confidence doing business with the US Government because the word of its head of state simply cannot be taken seriously or trusted - it will change as a function of day to day self-centered political expediency, not any concept of considered policy governing the country's international relations.
The clownish and ignorant behaviour of this White House demonstrates that dispute settlement procedures built into these trade agreements mean nothing when the true intent of these fools is to destroy any concept of orderly governance and international relations if it plays well to some vested interest.
The deep, fundamental meaning of Trump's outburst is that governance in the USA has given way to ignorance, irresponsibility and deceit on a grand scale, and in such a context it is not possible to negotiate anything. Better we wait it out till he is impeached - as cooler heads will prevail, then resume getting on with business. Trump may temporarily dent the long-standing Canada-US relationship, but it will outlast him, his malevolence and his incompetence.
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Worrying about enough steel for tanks is so 20th (or 19th?) century.
Today's security related trade problem is Chinese ownership of tech, and American tech's willingness to share its technology with China, whether deliberately or inadvertently, by exposing it to China via doing its manufacturing there.
Today's security related trade problem is Chinese ownership of tech, and American tech's willingness to share its technology with China, whether deliberately or inadvertently, by exposing it to China via doing its manufacturing there.
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These guys believe in fair trade. Without all that pesky intervention by the government.
Unless, of course, it happens to cost them any money. Then they're all about regulating capitalism.
Unless, of course, it happens to cost them any money. Then they're all about regulating capitalism.
Is this really about heaping profits on steel companies? Just how many steel workers are there in this evermore mechanized and automated industry? Sounds a lot like the coal argument to me. The jobs of the '50's and '60's are long ago taken over by machines and more efficient processes.
By the way, those old "high employment" steel mills were dangerous and miserable places to work--only slightly mitigated by union work rules. They are long gone and good riddance.
By the way, those old "high employment" steel mills were dangerous and miserable places to work--only slightly mitigated by union work rules. They are long gone and good riddance.
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I appreciate the informed comments made by other readers. Intuitively, I assumed that Trump didn't know what he was talking about and they came up with the facts to support how I felt. Thank you, folks.
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We are in the throes of one of the worst presidency's in contemporary history. We have a President who has no intellectual curiosity to educate himself about the facts before making blustering statements about almost anything. We have a White House staff that is out of touch and also lacks the intellectual curiosity to inform themselves before taking action. we have a Republican Congress who do nothing to check the President nor proposal any legislation that is backed by the far right wing of the party. Voters need to remember all of this in 2018 and throw the Republicans out of office. They have shown thatchy cannot lead nor legislate.
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"...Mr. Trump's 'Buy American, hire American' rallying cry...."
1) I guess that means I should stop buying Trump (Donald, Ivanka, Melania) merchandise;
2) there should be an asterisk after his "...hire American", considering he recently exempted from his "deport 'em all!" stance on immigration the one category of immigrant Trump happens to hire to work in his hotels.
Considering Trump's own global business footprint, his seedy business practices and associates, and his mistreatment of millions of people around the world to ram into place what it is he wants, it seems to me his "buy American, hire American" mantra is just another in the long list of Trump's comments which sound right at the time but have no real meaning for him and for which he does the exact opposite himself, or his goal is to be the only American businessman (well, him and Ivanka and Melania) allowed to hire immigrants in the US and have businesses around the globe. Absurd as it seems to we sane people, is it really hard to believe that Trump's goal could simply be his desire to conquer the world and be the only American trademark allowed to act with impunity on the global stage? What does it say about him, and us, that that kind of thinking is no longer a stretch or someone grasping at straws but is not at all unreasonable based on what we've seen from this megalomaniac?
1) I guess that means I should stop buying Trump (Donald, Ivanka, Melania) merchandise;
2) there should be an asterisk after his "...hire American", considering he recently exempted from his "deport 'em all!" stance on immigration the one category of immigrant Trump happens to hire to work in his hotels.
Considering Trump's own global business footprint, his seedy business practices and associates, and his mistreatment of millions of people around the world to ram into place what it is he wants, it seems to me his "buy American, hire American" mantra is just another in the long list of Trump's comments which sound right at the time but have no real meaning for him and for which he does the exact opposite himself, or his goal is to be the only American businessman (well, him and Ivanka and Melania) allowed to hire immigrants in the US and have businesses around the globe. Absurd as it seems to we sane people, is it really hard to believe that Trump's goal could simply be his desire to conquer the world and be the only American trademark allowed to act with impunity on the global stage? What does it say about him, and us, that that kind of thinking is no longer a stretch or someone grasping at straws but is not at all unreasonable based on what we've seen from this megalomaniac?
Am the only one who thinks there is something wrong with Trump? He's erratic, his thinking is not logical, and, well, this is not normal actions for a man in control of himself. I wake up every morning dreading what he's going to say, but today, and this headline, makes me think there may be a serious problem.
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Although psychiatrists and psychologists are ethically not supposed to diagnose anyone whom they have not personally observed and treated, there have been articles and letters published by individuals and groups in that field who have diagnosed Trump as having "malignant narcissistic personality disorder." Some believe he also has sociopathic tendencies. Google it, you will see that "malignant narcissistic personality disorder" describes Trump pretty well.
To me, the picture accompanying this article speaks volumes. Those people standing around Trump look like they would rather be anywhere else, listening to anyone else talk about anything else. I know the feeling.
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And now Canada. Canada? Seriously? I can't wait until he finds out about the unfair trade deals we have with Antartica.
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It just occurred to me that we are witnessing the birth of a combination of 1984 and Brave New World – two great novels depicting the future, written decades ago. In the former enemies of the state constantly shift and autocrats have so much control over the mental works of people, the people quickly adjust. In the latter, there is a hyper materialism where there is no moral compass. In both truth and virtue, honesty, etc. are considered quaint. So it has become now that Russia is to be our friend, then our enemy, Canada on and off as well. The media puts it out that an aircraft carrier is headed to North Korea, now our enemy, and then it isn’t. The backdrop to all this 1984 ministry of information is ever greater corporate control, malfeasance, and a populace who just wants entertainment, wine, and cheese regardless.
You really have to verify all stories, especially those out of the White House, corporate media mouths, and even scholars. All are in it for money only. If fact news is quaint now and just manipulation for profit purposes. The only remedy is not to buy until you are satisfied that doing so isn't going to turn you into ashes too soon.
You really have to verify all stories, especially those out of the White House, corporate media mouths, and even scholars. All are in it for money only. If fact news is quaint now and just manipulation for profit purposes. The only remedy is not to buy until you are satisfied that doing so isn't going to turn you into ashes too soon.
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Almost 100 days in and this administration is an epic failure. Trump can continue to rail and spew all the nonsense he wants and I won't buy it.
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I scratch my head reading an article like this. My first question is always, how do Trump's statements about XYZ (in this case, the steel and dairy industry) line the pockets of the Trump family?
This is a lousy way to begin reading articles about the President of the United States, but this president leaves me no option, given his personal and professional lack of ethics.
What lack of ethics, you may ask? Well, for starters, Trump won’t separate himself completely from his business interests; won’t release his income-tax returns so the public can see where conflicts might exist; won’t make the White House visitor logs public so all can know who might be influencing his policies; won’t stop spending one out of every five minutes at Mar-a-Lago or nearby golf courses, promoting his cheeezzy brand; won’t disclose the cost that Trump’s resorts charge the government for the government’s use of his trashy hotels and golf courses when he or someone in his family go there; won’t disclose details of his business ties to Russian interests and oligarchs; won’t stop resisting investigations into whether his campaign was complicit in Russia’s interference in the election; won’t say why he congratulated President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey for receiving authoritarian powers last week, even though Trump said two years ago that he owns a Yuge building in Istanbul.
It's only been 90 days, but I'm already worn out thinking of all the negatives of this bloke....when can trust begin?
This is a lousy way to begin reading articles about the President of the United States, but this president leaves me no option, given his personal and professional lack of ethics.
What lack of ethics, you may ask? Well, for starters, Trump won’t separate himself completely from his business interests; won’t release his income-tax returns so the public can see where conflicts might exist; won’t make the White House visitor logs public so all can know who might be influencing his policies; won’t stop spending one out of every five minutes at Mar-a-Lago or nearby golf courses, promoting his cheeezzy brand; won’t disclose the cost that Trump’s resorts charge the government for the government’s use of his trashy hotels and golf courses when he or someone in his family go there; won’t disclose details of his business ties to Russian interests and oligarchs; won’t stop resisting investigations into whether his campaign was complicit in Russia’s interference in the election; won’t say why he congratulated President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey for receiving authoritarian powers last week, even though Trump said two years ago that he owns a Yuge building in Istanbul.
It's only been 90 days, but I'm already worn out thinking of all the negatives of this bloke....when can trust begin?
Too bad. World capitalists have other ideas. They do not see American workers and industries delivering competitive products and values. The Don must be told that even American consumers have voted for China and other countries with their debit cards.
I see his handlers are making sure to put women into the pictures. As if we will forget that Trump is in the same category as Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes.
Just wondering: What other trade between the US and Canada is subject to tarrifs and in which direction?
Of course he framed it as an issue of "national security." He has learned, and we all have seen, that once that phrase is invoked, you can do anything you want.
QUESTION: When will the Trump family businesses stop importing products including, among other things, apparel and steel, that are manufactured outside the US? Signed, The Curious Canadian
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Good for Trump. The United States needs to stop being the world's sucker for bad economic and trade deals.
Will this be like their investigations of voter fraud and inauguration attendance counts? I'm jyst saying ...
Years ago, perhaps in was decades , America took Canada to the world court over their contention that Canada was being unfair regarding 'softwood lumber. America lost, because the accusations were unfounded, now, Mr. Trump is trying to revive the dead.
Sadly, for America and us, we get what you voted for. Oh, for the days of President Barack Obama, I could sleep easier then.
Sadly, for America and us, we get what you voted for. Oh, for the days of President Barack Obama, I could sleep easier then.
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You know there is this trade agreement called NAFTA.
By all means throw steel and milk into it.
NAFTA does need upgrading. It was put in place before the Blackberry phone and Skype were even thought of.
So lets have at it:)
Waiting.
Still, waiting.
By all means throw steel and milk into it.
NAFTA does need upgrading. It was put in place before the Blackberry phone and Skype were even thought of.
So lets have at it:)
Waiting.
Still, waiting.
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First, Trump may blow this way and that on trade, but he's a practicing globalist. That said, now that the Trump brand is synonymous with USA, surely he and the family are hot to have the big T only on products (including all component parts) made in America or on buildings whether here or abroad built with US steel.
This is the weekly diversionary topic de jour. And Mr. Trump should know that most of the dairy "workers" in Vermont are immigrants. Illegal? I don't know. And the farmers make steel on the side.
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Surprisingly, it has been reported that many of the dairy industry workers do not have legal immigration status.
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"Most of America’s largest steel suppliers are FRIENDLY countries, like Canada, South Korea and Germany."
Yeh, but for how much longer? Maybe until he builds a trade wall to keep Canadian steel out - 'and make Canada pay for it!'
Yeh, but for how much longer? Maybe until he builds a trade wall to keep Canadian steel out - 'and make Canada pay for it!'
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What Trump is doing to this country is a disgrace.
Canada does not want the US milk/dairy. They need to clean up their use of chemicals in their agriculture. Canada has the same standards as the EU.
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Roy Cohn was a lawyer. He was very aggressive, hurt people, and eventually was disbarred for unethical practice. He also gave D. Trump legal and strategic advice and
guidance. Here are some of Cohn's ways of dealing, which I place alongside D. Trump's:
"-I bring out the worst in my enemies and that's how I get them to defeat themselves."
[D. Trump behaves undiplomatically and aggressively toward whom he perceives to be opponents].
"-Go after a man's weakness, and never, ever, threaten unless you're going to follow through, because if you don't, the next time you won't be taken seriously." [D. Trump may have behaved this way during business dealings. It is not clear if he has behaved this way yet in the role of president. I'm not sure if what he has done in regard to Syria, apparently differing with Russia, is like this tactic (?); or, is it a behind-the-scene maneuver with Russia ?]
- "I don't want to know what the law is, I want to know who the judge is." [Could "the judge" be for D. Trump the court of public opinion, public opinion which does not equal reasonable good judgment (?) ]
- "I don't write polite letters. I don't like to plea-bargain. I like to fight." [There is evidence from D. Trump's campaigning and tweets that he adheres to these methods].
guidance. Here are some of Cohn's ways of dealing, which I place alongside D. Trump's:
"-I bring out the worst in my enemies and that's how I get them to defeat themselves."
[D. Trump behaves undiplomatically and aggressively toward whom he perceives to be opponents].
"-Go after a man's weakness, and never, ever, threaten unless you're going to follow through, because if you don't, the next time you won't be taken seriously." [D. Trump may have behaved this way during business dealings. It is not clear if he has behaved this way yet in the role of president. I'm not sure if what he has done in regard to Syria, apparently differing with Russia, is like this tactic (?); or, is it a behind-the-scene maneuver with Russia ?]
- "I don't want to know what the law is, I want to know who the judge is." [Could "the judge" be for D. Trump the court of public opinion, public opinion which does not equal reasonable good judgment (?) ]
- "I don't write polite letters. I don't like to plea-bargain. I like to fight." [There is evidence from D. Trump's campaigning and tweets that he adheres to these methods].
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This article mentions some kind of a problem with dairy trade with Canada, but does not explain it. I read the article twice to see if I had inadvertently skipped over the info. How is Canada allegedly affecting 75 Wisconsin dairy farmers and why? Does the editor know this topic so well that he/she did not realize that not everyone would? I am grateful to some of the other commenters who filled in some of the details.
Your not missing information, you are missing the point. The US dairy farmers are NOT being hurt by Canadian dairy farmers. This is just another fabrication by Trump.
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On behalf of the majority of Americans who didn't vote for Trump, we apologize to our friends in Canada.
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Just look at the expressions on the faces of the people around him! They must know he is still filming a reality t.v. show in his head.
Nothing worse than a twitchy elephant.
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Blaming Canada will sit well with Trump's uneducated fan base. They probably have no idea where Canada is. That might be a good thing.
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There are only two ways against bullies: you either totally surrender in submission or stand up. So, stand up against Trump, Canada! It´s the only way to keep being the great country you are!
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Sign me up for a voluntary coma for the next 3 years 9 months. I can't take anymore.
ALWAYS follow the money with these self-dealing guys.
Wilbur Ross' investments in failing steel companies; his department will lead the investigation.
United States Steel Corporation(NYSE:X)
Yesterday: 30.51 +2.09 (7.35%)
Pre-market Today: 30.95 +0.44 (1.44%)
Wilbur Ross' investments in failing steel companies; his department will lead the investigation.
United States Steel Corporation(NYSE:X)
Yesterday: 30.51 +2.09 (7.35%)
Pre-market Today: 30.95 +0.44 (1.44%)
Consider two sides to that.
There are always people taking personal advantage of government leanings and it's more investors than corporate that drove the steel co. price change. Then, there are whole companies developed to take advantage of H1b loopholes and flimsy monitoring - which are now going to have to change in ways that benefit me.
There are always people taking personal advantage of government leanings and it's more investors than corporate that drove the steel co. price change. Then, there are whole companies developed to take advantage of H1b loopholes and flimsy monitoring - which are now going to have to change in ways that benefit me.
Why are you still paying any attention to Trump's ravings?
Again and again he comes out with nonsense that usually is changes within two weeks. Canadian dairy farmers, indeed!
Stop giving in to the temper tantrums of a three year old.
Again and again he comes out with nonsense that usually is changes within two weeks. Canadian dairy farmers, indeed!
Stop giving in to the temper tantrums of a three year old.
In just two months the tag line of the twice-divorced, bloviating bankruptcy queen went from:
"We’re going to win so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of winning" to
”We’re going to spin so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of spinning."
"We’re going to win so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of winning" to
”We’re going to spin so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of spinning."
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journalists - if you cannot write about the President as he is rather than as a President who fits into your standard journalistic coverage, let someone who can write your articles.
Your job, mandate, and privilege in the US democracy is to inform the citizenry.
Donald does not base his actions or words on data nor on a thoughtful review of possible impacts of his words and actions. You see that; we see that; comedians see that. First do no harm applies to journalists as well (as to all of us). You are hurting us by lazy coverage - taking about policies, strategies, approach, and thinking through that Donald does not have or do. He's even telling you over and over that he follows what pops into his head.
Write about the Donald who is in the Oval Office - not one that you are making up.
Please stop. Please inform. Be Journalists.
Your job, mandate, and privilege in the US democracy is to inform the citizenry.
Donald does not base his actions or words on data nor on a thoughtful review of possible impacts of his words and actions. You see that; we see that; comedians see that. First do no harm applies to journalists as well (as to all of us). You are hurting us by lazy coverage - taking about policies, strategies, approach, and thinking through that Donald does not have or do. He's even telling you over and over that he follows what pops into his head.
Write about the Donald who is in the Oval Office - not one that you are making up.
Please stop. Please inform. Be Journalists.
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Canada nuking American dairy farmers... dastardly steel merchants threatening the country's security... I can't wait to get up, each morning, to see what fell out of this guy's head during the night. I predict that, this afternoon, Trump will claim Montana is manipulating U.S. currency, Syrians are pouring into the country through sub-Atlantic tunnels and Michelle Obama is piloting drones down White House corridors. I think this guy is a hoot -- but then I remember he's wrecking the environment, waging war on women, playing footsie with Russia, alienating our closest allies, emptying America's coffers into the pockets of his billionaire advisers, learning basic history from the leaders of other countries, playing with the little red
button marked "Push for Nuclear Winter," trying to make the healthy sick and the sick dead... I think about all of that, and he's not so funny anymore.
button marked "Push for Nuclear Winter," trying to make the healthy sick and the sick dead... I think about all of that, and he's not so funny anymore.
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The buffet President. He peruses the line of job duties, takes a little of this, a little of that, loads his plate, loses interest, meddles with dairy prices in WI, hangs with Palin, Nugent, etc., for a whole afternoon, tweets about whatever catches his waning interest, heads out for a weekend of golf...
0ops, forgot to pay attention to the country again today...maybe tomorrow, after working on my putting...
0ops, forgot to pay attention to the country again today...maybe tomorrow, after working on my putting...
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Over production world wide Wisconsin nites.
Over production is your problem not us in Canada Cheese heads.
Saying that with affection.
Over production is your problem not us in Canada Cheese heads.
Saying that with affection.
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He is pointing to Canada for lop-sided trade? What did they do? Compete fairly? What does he want? Isolationism? The US not to be a part of the world economy? Mr. Trump, you may hang on to those blue collar voters in some of those states but you are quickly going to lose the other half of the party which is the business end if you keep talking nonsense like this.
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Trumpublican voting businessmen are going to get what they deserve.
Someone please give him his binky and put him down for a nap.
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Except he also sounds/acts like that spoiled kid that'll fight sleep until they collapse in mid Tantrum.
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Wilbur Ross (2nd man on left) is a large shareholder of US Steel "X" as is Carl Ichan, both men use Trump to manipulate X share price. Ichan & Ross did so on election night with inclusion of infrastructure pledge in Trump's late night acceptance speech (Ichan ran out buying futures same hour) and both continue to do so. X recently pulled 30% back from 41 level down to critical support level of 28 on Wednesday, the timing of this Steel trade announcement is not a coincidence.
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From the AFL-CIO's web site:
"The Trump International Hotel Las Vegas and the Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago both used tons of Chinese metals."
Hypocrisy or mendacity? Or both.
NOT my president
"The Trump International Hotel Las Vegas and the Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago both used tons of Chinese metals."
Hypocrisy or mendacity? Or both.
NOT my president
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Wilbur Ross says: "...“We are groping here to see whether the facts warrant a comprehensive solution..."
FACTS? This administration doesn't need facts. Only the groping.
And thank you usa99 for some actual facts.
FACTS? This administration doesn't need facts. Only the groping.
And thank you usa99 for some actual facts.
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Many writers commenting over the last 3 months have suggested that
much of Trump's wildly inappropriate statements are successfully used
as distractions. Attention is diverted from rollbacks on environmental protection, continued deportations, efforts to sabotage the ACA, the
vicious move to deprive foreign workers of their right to fill important
vital jobs. reviving the keystone pipeline, and I am sorry for leaving out important changes Trump has slipped in, that make us look frightened
and confused as a country. Trump has not acted appropriately, more
than once, with any other nation. Trump is frightened and confused, or
he is trying to destroy this country for reasons unknown.
much of Trump's wildly inappropriate statements are successfully used
as distractions. Attention is diverted from rollbacks on environmental protection, continued deportations, efforts to sabotage the ACA, the
vicious move to deprive foreign workers of their right to fill important
vital jobs. reviving the keystone pipeline, and I am sorry for leaving out important changes Trump has slipped in, that make us look frightened
and confused as a country. Trump has not acted appropriately, more
than once, with any other nation. Trump is frightened and confused, or
he is trying to destroy this country for reasons unknown.
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My head spins - I can't follow this guy - our president TRUMP. Everyday we have a new best friend and new enemy - wait a week & the spin changes and so does the list of friends and enemies.
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Maybe the Wisconsin representatives need to their counterparts in Idaho. (See recent NYT story on Chobani).
This also is another case of industries not being able to read the handwriting on the wall. I'm guessing US milk production is down due to all the milk alternatives - soy, almond, coconut. Time to find new uses for their product.
As far as picking on Canada, don't! During the recent housing crisis, Canadians played a big role in saving some metro areas - like Phoenix.
This also is another case of industries not being able to read the handwriting on the wall. I'm guessing US milk production is down due to all the milk alternatives - soy, almond, coconut. Time to find new uses for their product.
As far as picking on Canada, don't! During the recent housing crisis, Canadians played a big role in saving some metro areas - like Phoenix.
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When it comes to trade every country does whatever to improve their share of what the US can absorb. Most lower their currency as the easiest tool, as productivity is waning Slave labor with no benefit cost, remains the biggest advantage as does US Multinationals paying no taxes on foreign income. It remains in Banks off shore.
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"Mr. Ross, a billionaire known for his hard-line trade views and investments in failing steel companies, joined Mr. Pence in Tokyo."
Does Ross still own these steel companies? If so, is this investigation instigated by him to make money off of us with his higher priced steel? Your story left me in the dark on this important point.
Does Ross still own these steel companies? If so, is this investigation instigated by him to make money off of us with his higher priced steel? Your story left me in the dark on this important point.
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Trump has already surpassed James Buchannon as the worst president ever. Impeachment is right around the corner. Enjoy your golf this weekend, Donald. Your day of reckoning is coming.
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EVERYTHING is a disaster and only Trump the magnificent can save us!
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I read the headlines and already knew, before reading the content, that he was lying. After all, he was moving his lips.
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Note to trump
Shut UP.
Canada is better than you will EVER be.
Shut UP.
Canada is better than you will EVER be.
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The New York Times seems in general to write in subtle support about Trump's bomb dropping in Syria but critiques the one good thing he's actually done by calling it "nationalist" (the killing of the TPP).
Actually, a wide variety of of American's felt the TPP was a disaster. Liberals, who quested the deal as it gave corporations more power than they already have over governments and the global economic system. Conservatives, who fear the erosion of sovereignty, and economic nationalists like Bannon who hate all trade deals, also opposed the TPP.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with trade, but the TPP was horrific.
The NYT provides a disservice to it's readers, leaving them to assume that it's death was just a "nationalist" or right-wing goal. That's pretty far from the truth. In fact, that is the narrative that the major corporations who supported the TPP were pushing. . .
Actually, a wide variety of of American's felt the TPP was a disaster. Liberals, who quested the deal as it gave corporations more power than they already have over governments and the global economic system. Conservatives, who fear the erosion of sovereignty, and economic nationalists like Bannon who hate all trade deals, also opposed the TPP.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with trade, but the TPP was horrific.
The NYT provides a disservice to it's readers, leaving them to assume that it's death was just a "nationalist" or right-wing goal. That's pretty far from the truth. In fact, that is the narrative that the major corporations who supported the TPP were pushing. . .
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Would have been nice though if we got something from China in exchange for unilaterally dropping TPP and withdrawing US influence from the region. You'd think the deal maker in chief would have known that.
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He'a a paper tiger.
Roars gets red faced screams then changes his feeble little mind 10 seconds later ( US Retail drug prices anyone?)
That's what China thinks of him
That's what America thinks of him
A Flailing failure except to his true believers . And the GOP enabling sycophants.
That sudden ending dwindles daily.
Roars gets red faced screams then changes his feeble little mind 10 seconds later ( US Retail drug prices anyone?)
That's what China thinks of him
That's what America thinks of him
A Flailing failure except to his true believers . And the GOP enabling sycophants.
That sudden ending dwindles daily.
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"Talk is cheap and all talk no actions" are the hallmark of DT's foreign policy and the world should ignore the huff, bluff, and whiff from his boorish and uneducated tweets and respond only to his actions.
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In 2016, the US exported 5x as much dairy product to Canada as it imported. Some disaster ...
Again, the president shows his ignorance of the facts.
Again, the president shows his ignorance of the facts.
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Really? We need steel produced here to build tanks and airplanes? Maybe we can bring back Rosie the riveter to work on the assembly line making guns and cannon barrels. How about making America the Arsenal of Democracy?
Is the Trump strategy to re-cycle ideas like "America First" and" Buy American "
that are too old to remember for anyone under the age of 75 ?
Is the Trump strategy to re-cycle ideas like "America First" and" Buy American "
that are too old to remember for anyone under the age of 75 ?
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It's sad when words like 'stupid', 'ignorant', 'suicidal' have been used so often about your President that they're useless when you really need them.
Yet here we are. Trump again assaults the few friends remaining to America...which is understandable because have you honestly ever heard someone describe Donald himself as a friend?
So: attacking our best trading partners. Again. Destroying trade agreements that favor US in big ways. Talking such nonsense that I blush and avert my eyes each time I cross the Niagara frontier.
To begin with, Mr. Trump, NAFTA does not include lumber or dairy. You're lying again; I suspect you know it. Second, it is our own dairy policy that's the problem. Our dairy policy and your being in possession of so little brain.
On the one hand, you moan about foreign subsidies and threaten tariffs or violence. On the other hand, you want to force Canada to accept our inferior milk, produced with subsidies, and shut up about it.
Most important, your whipping boy NAFTA does not even address dairy. As you know, or somebody up there better, this is what happens when you subsidize milk, produce too much, and the world already suffers an unusable surplus.
I don't hear you complaining about Wisconsin farms lost to imports from Michigan.
Mr. President no one, alive or dead, has done so good a job of alienating trade partners, sending them searching for more reliable less humiliating markets, and putting all our global trade at risk. Way to go.
Yet here we are. Trump again assaults the few friends remaining to America...which is understandable because have you honestly ever heard someone describe Donald himself as a friend?
So: attacking our best trading partners. Again. Destroying trade agreements that favor US in big ways. Talking such nonsense that I blush and avert my eyes each time I cross the Niagara frontier.
To begin with, Mr. Trump, NAFTA does not include lumber or dairy. You're lying again; I suspect you know it. Second, it is our own dairy policy that's the problem. Our dairy policy and your being in possession of so little brain.
On the one hand, you moan about foreign subsidies and threaten tariffs or violence. On the other hand, you want to force Canada to accept our inferior milk, produced with subsidies, and shut up about it.
Most important, your whipping boy NAFTA does not even address dairy. As you know, or somebody up there better, this is what happens when you subsidize milk, produce too much, and the world already suffers an unusable surplus.
I don't hear you complaining about Wisconsin farms lost to imports from Michigan.
Mr. President no one, alive or dead, has done so good a job of alienating trade partners, sending them searching for more reliable less humiliating markets, and putting all our global trade at risk. Way to go.
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President Trump thinks he is a deal maker so he wants to make deals. Never mind that the world is fast losing faith in the worth of any deal with this government. Let's Make a Deal! Catchy, huh?
Great words coming from a person who's branded products (none of which either he or his daughter really produce) are all made overseas.
What a hypocrite and fraud this man is.
What a hypocrite and fraud this man is.
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For too long we've simply been accepting of the disappearance of middle-class jobs that productively soak up the labor of millions of Americans without higher educational credentials. Strange that so many other countries seem to find those jobs for their people -- trading partners of ours that impose protections on their markets that we don't yet benefit from trade agreements that our leaders have used as diplomatic tools to inveigle behavior that has nothing to do with American prosperity.
All those jobs are obsolescing and some day will be obsolete everywhere, not just here. But they're not obsolete yet. And we need to repatriate as many as we can in order to buy us the time and resources to forge the true solutions to what are existential issues of labor and the extent of individual independence we must surrender just to feed our people.
Trump's "barks" are a welcome change. High time for some bites, as well.
All those jobs are obsolescing and some day will be obsolete everywhere, not just here. But they're not obsolete yet. And we need to repatriate as many as we can in order to buy us the time and resources to forge the true solutions to what are existential issues of labor and the extent of individual independence we must surrender just to feed our people.
Trump's "barks" are a welcome change. High time for some bites, as well.
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I'll bark and bite (so to speak),
How (primarily) and of course Why would a job that left this country to pay a lot lower wage(s)..relocate or come or come back here to pay a (much) higher one(s)?
Not only that, since when do GOPers want to mandate the Free Enterprise, Free Markets,...process?
Was it same time they decided the Kremlin was an Ally?
How (primarily) and of course Why would a job that left this country to pay a lot lower wage(s)..relocate or come or come back here to pay a (much) higher one(s)?
Not only that, since when do GOPers want to mandate the Free Enterprise, Free Markets,...process?
Was it same time they decided the Kremlin was an Ally?
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I thought that the US has a 400 million$ dairy trade surplus with Canada? In any case the President has no core beliefs and his opinions change daily depending on who speaks with him. This is a guy who changed his mind after a 10 min conversation with the Chinese President about China North Korea relations. I bet you Trump will say something else tomorrow.
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Oh, God, is Bannon back? I pray not.
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How long before Trump begins to rail against England and Australia for stealing...American acting jobs? Take that, Nicole Kidman! And what about the Kates?
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Trump accusing our neighbors Canada and Mexico without knowing the facts is a disgrace. Trump is disaster. Trump is disaster for the country and the world.
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Wisconsin and NY dairy Farmers will fold because Trump started a trade war.
"Canada First" in dairy purchasing is the first taste of what Trump's rhetoric and policies will bring us.
Those farms will not come back. How does this make America greater?
"Canada First" in dairy purchasing is the first taste of what Trump's rhetoric and policies will bring us.
Those farms will not come back. How does this make America greater?
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These trade imbalance concerns could be solved so easily and without rancor. Simply grant US exporters $ trade credits that importers need to buy on a regulated exchange before releasing equivalent $ to pay for their imports. Such a law almost made it through Congress once (after being proposed by Warren Buffett.) It was killed by special interests.
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Thanks for the effort Donald, it was a good try. But calling us a 'disgrace' is pretty lame when you consider the words and actions you used against Germany, Australia, Mexico etc. It was embarrassing to be in the same club of your friends: Russia, Egypt and Turkey and now we're out. So thanks for the effort and hopefully you find your armada soon.
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Canada is the only "best friend" we have left in the world now that Bush and Trump have stirred the soup with everyone else. Leave Canada alone!
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Again Trump does not have the knowledge to understand the agreement and the necewssary intelligence The Cdn milk is a upgrade milk compared to the one produced in the States. Also there is a overproduction in the States and Trumps does not mentionned that overproduction. He does not understand anything a laud mouth that is the man moto. I hope the guy will be destituted.
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The expressions on the faces of the people around Trump's desk in the picture are priceless. As if they are on a solemn occasion and the anthem is sung but totally off key. The guy in the red tie next to Trump's desk is wondering who the heck ate Mexican the night before, he sure is recoiling from what appears to be a bad smell. The woman in the black dress in the forefront is grimly bearing it, and the rest has fixed their eyes on something straight ahead to keep them from rolling. The man in the yellow-striped tie has closed his eyes for good measure, to make sure he isn't caught rolling them at the abject nonsense coming from Trump's mouth.
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Enough with the ranting already. Shut up Donald.
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Just think, only 3 years and 8 months to go. Democrats in preparation for 2020 please run a candidate who will obliterate this guy, fire every appointment he has made, overturn every order he signed and wipe the stains off our reputation in he world.
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It's all a smoke screen to get his and Ivanka's products into every crevice of the world. He's a cockroach.
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Our fearless leader just heaved a bunch of cow dung in the wrong direction.
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More bloviating misdirection from donny trump.
Hey, donny........what about the FBI investigation between you and Putin?
No words of 'wisdom" on that?
No words about Assange? You remember him, right? You encouraged Assange to hack Hillary's emails, remember?
No words of wisdom on your pledge to "repeal Obamacare on day one"???
Donny, you are SAD.
Hey, donny........what about the FBI investigation between you and Putin?
No words of 'wisdom" on that?
No words about Assange? You remember him, right? You encouraged Assange to hack Hillary's emails, remember?
No words of wisdom on your pledge to "repeal Obamacare on day one"???
Donny, you are SAD.
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Another example of DJT's sickening ignorance/naivety
and/or demagoguery
and/or alliance to half-baked sophomoric ideology
and/or his zero-sum business style of selfishness/greed
Net result - regardless of motivation: the oft irrational and/or parochial emotions of 42% of this Country will resonate.
And while this 42% gives license to Rs to sail us toward a darkness most have only "read" about the Ds watch with self-imposed placidity, impotence, and/or triviality.
The sin of our times: the shirking of public duty of a large part of the 58% rest of us! This apathetic and/or inappropriately playful lot allowed this ball to start its descent years ago .. blood on their heads!
One can argue intelligently and honestly pros and cons of about anything.
And all human constructs are in context imperfect and need well-considered honest "scientific' pushing and pulling across time to evolve to more effective efficient forms. Adaption is always necessary for survival.
BUT one has to start with sound philosophical objectives, purpose, and goals which this regime lacks.
And focus on real problems/defects defined with scientific clarity and honesty - which this regime doesn't.
And recognize the principle ecological FACT of human endeavors: peaceful balance is best served by win-win and not zero-sum tweaking - which this regime refutes.
Citizens - use "healthcare" as barometer of our political health/sickness. Good working models out there! why do we flounder?
and/or demagoguery
and/or alliance to half-baked sophomoric ideology
and/or his zero-sum business style of selfishness/greed
Net result - regardless of motivation: the oft irrational and/or parochial emotions of 42% of this Country will resonate.
And while this 42% gives license to Rs to sail us toward a darkness most have only "read" about the Ds watch with self-imposed placidity, impotence, and/or triviality.
The sin of our times: the shirking of public duty of a large part of the 58% rest of us! This apathetic and/or inappropriately playful lot allowed this ball to start its descent years ago .. blood on their heads!
One can argue intelligently and honestly pros and cons of about anything.
And all human constructs are in context imperfect and need well-considered honest "scientific' pushing and pulling across time to evolve to more effective efficient forms. Adaption is always necessary for survival.
BUT one has to start with sound philosophical objectives, purpose, and goals which this regime lacks.
And focus on real problems/defects defined with scientific clarity and honesty - which this regime doesn't.
And recognize the principle ecological FACT of human endeavors: peaceful balance is best served by win-win and not zero-sum tweaking - which this regime refutes.
Citizens - use "healthcare" as barometer of our political health/sickness. Good working models out there! why do we flounder?
I wonder if Trumpy got his ideas from the Three Stooges (Sarah, Kid and Ted) who visited him earlier. Four hours of discussing - what was it - "existential globalist policies?" Not one of them could spell "existential" if their worthless lives depended on it.
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And Nugent, that loudmouth truth-rapist and racist ignoramus, calling president Obama a "mongrel". In the White House. He and his two sidekicks are nothing but s**t stains on the underwear of society, and the Clown - in - Chief gave them "most favored stooge status" with a grand tour.
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How utterly appalling and undignified. That jamoke needs to go. Now.
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And Nugent, that loudmouth truth-rapist and racist ignoramus, calling president Obama a "mongrel". In the White House. He and his two sidekicks are nothing but s**t stains on the underwear of society, and the Clown - in - Chief gave them "most favored stooge status" with a grand tour.
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How utterly appalling and undignified. That jamoke needs to go. Now.
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So Trump thinks what we have done to our farmers is a disgrace. Corn and soybeans are major U.S. exports and Midwestern farmers have been among Trump's strongest supporters. Right now the price of corn and soybeans are already in the dumpster. If Trump messes around with tariffs on imported products from Canada, Mexico, and China (major U.S. grain importers) he is sure to induce reciprocal tariffs, which will mark the end of corn and soybean exports and the end of his support in the Midwest.
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Does Mr. Ross still have those investments in failing steel companies? I'm shocked, just shocked, to think this might be about lining his pockets.
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There is no signal. Trump has no idea what he's going to say whenever he opens his mouth. Its a surprise to him too.
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Let him roar!
Let him rally, let him cry and let him bark...
Just do not pay any attention to him.
Let him rally, let him cry and let him bark...
Just do not pay any attention to him.
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Who does he think negotiated these "horrible" trade deals? The ACLU? SPLC? MoveOn.org? No, friends, it was the very industries that cry foul about dumping all the while improving their profitability by buying imported commodities cheaper than they can make them and re-selling them in the US. As long as the cry-baby-in-chief keeps making it unpleasant for foreign manufacturers to set up sales offices in the US with "Buy American" orders, the con is safe.
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This looks like Canada has adopted Buy Canadian (milk) first.
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Look, what's to do?
Another bad day in foreign policy with the Italian PM, Korea, aircraft carriers and so on.
Another failed attempt at repeal and replace on tap.
Russian investigation.
Tax reform dead.
Plans he can't pay for.
Rallying the base with these arguments --- all he has left.
Another bad day in foreign policy with the Italian PM, Korea, aircraft carriers and so on.
Another failed attempt at repeal and replace on tap.
Russian investigation.
Tax reform dead.
Plans he can't pay for.
Rallying the base with these arguments --- all he has left.
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Goniff Trump thinks that not enough Canadians are buying Ivanka's Chinese shmatas and chazerai. Can't let a week go by without promoting the brand, one way or the other.
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From the news up here in Canada, apparently NOTHING has changed with respect to dairy regulations. The only thing that has changed is some dairy farmers in Canada have started producing the same product as those in Wisconsin.
The U.S. apparently enjoys a $400 million trade surplus with Canada w.r.t. dairy.
If Mr. Trump wants to ratchet down every single trade deal to, "We win, you lose", it'll have consequences, even in a mostly friendly place like Canada.
The U.S. apparently enjoys a $400 million trade surplus with Canada w.r.t. dairy.
If Mr. Trump wants to ratchet down every single trade deal to, "We win, you lose", it'll have consequences, even in a mostly friendly place like Canada.
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So now it's dairy farmers. Who will our windbag agitator try to rile up next?
Donald fooled a lot of ordinary citizens during his campaign with his force and bluster. They listened, they hoped, and they voted for him. They're still listening, but with any luck they've have added a little thought to the equation. The self-professed expert on everything doesn't have a clue, and on top of that is nasty, willfully dishonest, and selfish. The man's an entertainer, not a leader, unless you're willing to be led down the garden path.
Donald fooled a lot of ordinary citizens during his campaign with his force and bluster. They listened, they hoped, and they voted for him. They're still listening, but with any luck they've have added a little thought to the equation. The self-professed expert on everything doesn't have a clue, and on top of that is nasty, willfully dishonest, and selfish. The man's an entertainer, not a leader, unless you're willing to be led down the garden path.
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And not a very good entertainer at that!
Is this all he can do....Rails!
I guess he is now tired from a long week of railing he must get some rest.
Today's Friday.....he should head to FL to relax.
I bet he don't even put 10 hrs of work a week.
Nice photo-op though!
I guess he is now tired from a long week of railing he must get some rest.
Today's Friday.....he should head to FL to relax.
I bet he don't even put 10 hrs of work a week.
Nice photo-op though!
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morGan
Yes. The obvious level of excitement in the room is just...stunning.
The newly-visible women, especially, look ecstatic for being given new and important roles as photo-op props.
I don't know what Mr. Trump is always going on about, American is so already great!
By the by, apropos of Mr. Trump learning and growing in his role of President, it's nice to see somebody told him how Presidential it looks when there's technology all over his otherwise useless ceremonial desk. It was almost embarrassing how empty the thing has been up 'til now. Dynamism! Authority!!!
Yes. The obvious level of excitement in the room is just...stunning.
The newly-visible women, especially, look ecstatic for being given new and important roles as photo-op props.
I don't know what Mr. Trump is always going on about, American is so already great!
By the by, apropos of Mr. Trump learning and growing in his role of President, it's nice to see somebody told him how Presidential it looks when there's technology all over his otherwise useless ceremonial desk. It was almost embarrassing how empty the thing has been up 'til now. Dynamism! Authority!!!
America can't always be the 'winner'. All countries need jobs and prosperity. Trade deals are a give and take - the US may have suffered on dairy, but Canada has suffered on steel.
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That's our man. Putting America first again.
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"Buy American, hire American!" You listening, Ivanka?
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Canadians, sorry; he's sucking up to Wisconsin cause it's a swing state.
When Obama was behind the wheel I could take a nap in the passenger seat.
Now that this guy is driving I don't dare take my eyes off the road.
When Obama was behind the wheel I could take a nap in the passenger seat.
Now that this guy is driving I don't dare take my eyes off the road.
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My apologies to our friends in Canada.He is a major embarrassment to many of us.
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"Not so fast on placing that blame, say Canadian farmers, who fault the U.S. for producing too much milk in a global marketplace flooded with it."
http://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2017/04/11/canada-says-dont-blame-wi...
Maybe the subsidies paid to U.S. dairy producers is ultimately to blame for this market distortion? Free market, anyone? What hypocrites.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2017/04/11/canada-says-dont-blame-wi...
Maybe the subsidies paid to U.S. dairy producers is ultimately to blame for this market distortion? Free market, anyone? What hypocrites.
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Who would listen to this hot head. Pure theatrics with no substance.
7
Once more, King Donald has opened his insulting mouth before putting his deranged mind into gear.
10
Look, a squirrel.
Stay on target. Investigate, investigate, investigate.
Stay on target. Investigate, investigate, investigate.
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Trump's short sightedness and need to show his vote bank immediate gains, will not only most likely harm his own vote bank to greatest degree, but also drag America into a recession. Raegan had a similar approach, be our partner, give us deals that favor Americans or we come after you, but the big difference was that Reagan knew when to keep quiet and listen to experts. Trump only reads headings of the briefing books, if at all.
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There are plenty of dairy farm workers here in Wisconsin who are also in the crosshairs of ICE regardless of their immigration status simply because they are Hispanic. Talk about a disgrace.
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Not only should we buy American because it's American but in the case of China, but because Chinese products tend to be shoddy. I avoid their stuff.
In the case of Japan, I won't buy their cars because they impose taxes and other restrictions on American-made cars to the extent that a $30,000 Mustang, for instance, costs $75,000 in Japan. Let's do the same thing to them. Let's see how many Camrys they sell if they cost $75,000 apiece.
In the case of Japan, I won't buy their cars because they impose taxes and other restrictions on American-made cars to the extent that a $30,000 Mustang, for instance, costs $75,000 in Japan. Let's do the same thing to them. Let's see how many Camrys they sell if they cost $75,000 apiece.
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Yes Blame Canada Mr. President. Blame the little guy up north for your problems given China is too tough to cave in to your bullying. Your countrymen blamed us for allowing the 9/11 terrorists to arrive through Canada. Of course that was completely untrue. Now spread more false news.
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Isn't this the same person who admitted to using Chinese steel in his buildings to keep costs down? The same one who outsourced the work for the products that bear his name, and who admits to hiring foreign workers for his properties? If he wants to push buy American, hire American maybe he should look in the mirror first.
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And make his daughter stop having 100% of her products made in China also. The hypocrite family indeed. Everything out of his mouth is grandstanding and lying. No one ever calls him on the carpet for it though, shame really, bad, very bad..
What, he should tear down those buildings?
He took advantage of the pricing and that was under earlier administration policies.
It was harmful to our industry then and at least it is being addressed now.
Maybe too little it too late, but it is being looked at in terms of the US market and how it affects our economy. We do not have to give away our market so cheaply.
He took advantage of the pricing and that was under earlier administration policies.
It was harmful to our industry then and at least it is being addressed now.
Maybe too little it too late, but it is being looked at in terms of the US market and how it affects our economy. We do not have to give away our market so cheaply.
Our president is 70 going on 5. What an awful situation.
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No need to insult 5 year olds, most of whom engage in age appropriate behavior in public. Mr. Trump flouts age appropriate behavior by name calling, bluster, and myriad other tactics that do not fit 70 year olds who normally exhibit thoughtful and intelligent utterances in public situations.
You know what? This guy is just getting boring.
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"He's manically focused on these trade issues"... Bannon left out the part of the danger of a president being a maniac with very little information and zero analysis. He used the right adverb, though.
Canada and Great Britain are the closest US allies but Trump missed that day in school. Backtracking NAFTA is going to hurt the US as much as Canada.
By the way, spending so many hours with Paling et al instead of being briefed on key issues is not going to enlight Trump.
Canada and Great Britain are the closest US allies but Trump missed that day in school. Backtracking NAFTA is going to hurt the US as much as Canada.
By the way, spending so many hours with Paling et al instead of being briefed on key issues is not going to enlight Trump.
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Whenever he speaks, I push the "mute" button.
I cannot stand to listen to such an ignorant person.
I cannot stand to listen to such an ignorant person.
8
Look at the expressions on the faces of the people surrounding Trump in the photo. They can't believe he's in the Oval Office either.
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I'm sooo tired of winning. Please, Donald, stop it already.
6
Perhaps it is generations of agriculture and dairy subsidies that have done disgraceful things to farmers?
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Trump is turning into the "Clown in Chief"!
What Trump has to do, is stop the continual lying!
Trump is out there on an island most of time making up stuff, while his cabinet members or other members in the administration are talking facts.
A prime example, was when he said Iran is not living up to the Nuclear deal, but everyone else says they are, including his Secretary of State in Training.
I for one have no faith in Donald Trump either telling the truth or knowing what he is talking about, having worked in the Department of Defense for 32 years, we always had people like him working in our area, we called them Bull S*****s and nobody ever believed them; Donald Trump is a prime example of one.
What Trump has to do, is stop the continual lying!
Trump is out there on an island most of time making up stuff, while his cabinet members or other members in the administration are talking facts.
A prime example, was when he said Iran is not living up to the Nuclear deal, but everyone else says they are, including his Secretary of State in Training.
I for one have no faith in Donald Trump either telling the truth or knowing what he is talking about, having worked in the Department of Defense for 32 years, we always had people like him working in our area, we called them Bull S*****s and nobody ever believed them; Donald Trump is a prime example of one.
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Again?
How disconcerting that when things are going south for Trump, he pushes again for a nationalism that will appeal to only to his base. And in the process he hurts nations, industries, towns, and diminishes the prospects of millions of people.
The great paradox, of course, is that by doing this he strengthens the dollar and weakens the currencies of our trading partners (Mexico, Canada, China, et al), making them even more competitive and us, less.
How disconcerting that when things are going south for Trump, he pushes again for a nationalism that will appeal to only to his base. And in the process he hurts nations, industries, towns, and diminishes the prospects of millions of people.
The great paradox, of course, is that by doing this he strengthens the dollar and weakens the currencies of our trading partners (Mexico, Canada, China, et al), making them even more competitive and us, less.
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Yes, again.
The president of the United States of America chimes in on something he clearly knows nothing about.
And that is the norm for this man.
The president of the United States of America chimes in on something he clearly knows nothing about.
And that is the norm for this man.
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Speak loudly and carry a small stick.
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There is so much that is absurd about this administration, particularly its trade "policies", that 1,500 characters cannot begin to critique it. Suffice it to say that this is precisely what we should expect when we install an idiot in the presidency. Just as with coal, he does not realize that he is swimming against the tide, as steel is, much like oil, an international commodity which price is set on a global basis by market forces. If he isolates the US all he will succeed in doing is to make domestic products uncompetitive in the global market. Tariffs, meanwhile, will ensure that US prices will rise. I smell inflation, coupled with economic stagnation, or worse. Isn't that "great"? And he's only just getting started. War, economic meltdown, corruption - what's not to like?
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I humbly submit that this has less to do with Stephen Bannon and more to do with the fact that Mr. Trump is unable to separate his own thoughts and feelings from those in his immediate vicinity, in this case, dairy farmers in Wisconsin with whom he met recently. Canada is an important US ally for many reasons. Unfortunately, I am no longer shocked by Mr. Trump's inability to more carefully calibrate what emerges from his mouth.
To our friends in Canada: please forgive him, he is an imbecile and we made a huge mistake electing him president..
To our friends in Canada: please forgive him, he is an imbecile and we made a huge mistake electing him president..
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As a Canadian living and working in the US I sadly accept your apology. Sadly this madness will have a huge adverse and real impact on many in both our great nations. Tragic!
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America, if it has not been obvious since his craziness became
political, you have a destructive fool as president.
political, you have a destructive fool as president.
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Trump should also criticize the U.S. tobacco companies that try to use trade deals to force other countries, such as Thailand, to import cigarettes.
Astounding that a plutocrat president would begin to turn the tide against multinational corporations and their ongoing rape of the American economy. Sitting in an Indiana city that once had 4 massive steel mills and hundreds of thousands of union-wage paychecks, now reduced to a ghost town and a joke, I say it's high time we drew the line with the Free Trade Agreements and the boondoggle for which they stand. Let us hope the trade game goes well.
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Sarah Palin, the Ghost of Christmas Past, will help Trump "roar". I bet she can even sea his Nimitz Fleet from her porch..............
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Hey..can I be POTUS next? I'm old and I rely on the oft demonstrated abilities to act like everybodys loved opinionated mensch and or dangerous "wise guy" depending on the situation. I offer disdain for almost all governmental institutions and traditions. I am supremely over confident and can at the drop of a hat be equal parts condescending and snottily indignant. I offer completely uninformed opinions, and once..get this..sat down with a "whole bunch" of other really great patriots who are as rich as me, oh yeah i'm fabulously wealthy forgot that part..anyway over about oh 2 or 3 hrs basically laid out my plan to save America. All of this while being in complete denial that there is any..ANY! situation I don't have complete understanding and command of. Sincerely a really cool guy that everyone either already loves or will soon. Thank You.
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Tell us about your hair. That will be decisive!
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Does he (even) know what he's saying?
or
Does he not care he doesn't know what he's saying?
One is equal to a Peanut Butter Eating horse or dog.
The other is crying out for help.
or
Does he not care he doesn't know what he's saying?
One is equal to a Peanut Butter Eating horse or dog.
The other is crying out for help.
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"And it's not going to happen any longer. Believe me." When people say "believe me" you can count on the fact that they are lying. This president has no credibility with the majority of Americans.
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And yet, he is willing to use foreign steel to build the (terrible) Keystone pipeline. This man is a fraud.
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Small thing among the big things. "Dairy farm workers?" I thought, dairy farmers.
"The Apprentice" show by Trump was to my knowledge only aired once a week.
Why, oh why, does the NYT give space for a picture that shows the White House Apprentice sitting behind the desk surrounded by a supporting crew, while slapping his big, tremendously beautiful signature on a stupid piece of paper?
This man can't see enough of himself, either in the halls of mirror of his gaudy fake Versailles residences, or the staged photos for the press.
The legitimate press as a whole should not give him the chance to admire himself on pictures behind the desk in the Oval Office by publishing these photo ops.
Print only please, NYT - without any flashy pictures -, is enough punishment for your readers already.
Why, oh why, does the NYT give space for a picture that shows the White House Apprentice sitting behind the desk surrounded by a supporting crew, while slapping his big, tremendously beautiful signature on a stupid piece of paper?
This man can't see enough of himself, either in the halls of mirror of his gaudy fake Versailles residences, or the staged photos for the press.
The legitimate press as a whole should not give him the chance to admire himself on pictures behind the desk in the Oval Office by publishing these photo ops.
Print only please, NYT - without any flashy pictures -, is enough punishment for your readers already.
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Typical bully, Trump always has to find an enemy. What's next?
"What New Zealand is doing to our sheep ranchers is a disgrace."
Or maybe just send an armada to Winnipeg to "show some strength."
"What New Zealand is doing to our sheep ranchers is a disgrace."
Or maybe just send an armada to Winnipeg to "show some strength."
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As a Canadian living in the US I am constantly amazed at Trump's talent for offending people. I don't think that most Americans (who voted in a majority for candidate Clinton) are against Canada or Mexico - or NAFTA - but the man in the White House thrives on promoting ignorance. It will be a long 3-1/2 years till he is gone.
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There have been both intended and unintended consequences of trade agreements - and federal regulations or the lack of same - for years. Federal policies affect farmers more directly because they experience the immediate results - of market tightening, of changes in available credit and pricing, and, yes, from ICE going after immigrant farm workers. ( Was Trump concerned about those farm workers?)
I did have some concerns regarding our lack of manufacturing facilities in many areas - combined with the fact that some suppliers could be our enemies in some plausible war scenarios: how would the US supply its own armies in the event of a war that isolated the country? I don't have the knowledge to opine about that.
But why try to analyze what Trump says? He has no substance - no there there. He can call for expert advice at a moment's notice and does not; the best response for the Times and other media to to try to educate the public on the highlighted policies -which are completely unfamiliar to most. What he continually does is to offend one group, one country, after another, and let this stand as "policy."
I did have some concerns regarding our lack of manufacturing facilities in many areas - combined with the fact that some suppliers could be our enemies in some plausible war scenarios: how would the US supply its own armies in the event of a war that isolated the country? I don't have the knowledge to opine about that.
But why try to analyze what Trump says? He has no substance - no there there. He can call for expert advice at a moment's notice and does not; the best response for the Times and other media to to try to educate the public on the highlighted policies -which are completely unfamiliar to most. What he continually does is to offend one group, one country, after another, and let this stand as "policy."
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Buy American should always be in place,but like the article said all barks no bites. Approval numbers down bomb Syria,nationalist wing complaining sign a do nothing feel good order. It is all just a bad comedy.
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On the narrow issue that the USA should NOT be dependent upon any other nation for steel for the manufacture of military defense items, Trump is on target. (Never thought I'd write something like that!) I remain cynical about his ability to resolve that issue.
The quality of an individual is shown in the quality of their ideas. Are they uplifting? Supportive? Creative? A net gain for the topic at hand?
I have not seen that in any regard with this president. Everything is negative, complaining, blaming, accusing.
Derelict of conscience.
I have not seen that in any regard with this president. Everything is negative, complaining, blaming, accusing.
Derelict of conscience.
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So the guy who (clandestinely) bought Chinese steel for both his Las Vegas and Chicago hotels, who skipped using steel altogether on Trump Tower (opting instead to use cost-saving concrete supplied by the mob) and who outsources all of his Trump-labeled items to foreign countries including China, thinks everyone ELSE should do as he says, not as he does.
The term I'd like to use to describe this bloviating hypocrite wouldn't make it past the censors. So I'll call him a monumental Richard.
The term I'd like to use to describe this bloviating hypocrite wouldn't make it past the censors. So I'll call him a monumental Richard.
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Without Canadian diary products, can you imagine what the price of ice cream is going to be? Can you imagine what the price of our F-22 fighter planes are going to cost us if the Canadians and NATO don´t buy any of those planes.
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45 is a complete narcissist... in his view, the US is being preyed upon and ripped off by each and every country on the planet. His lack of understanding of macroeconomics, and interest in returning to WW2 style economy will surely lead to stupid, irrational policy.
The tantrum(s) are so juvenile and frequent,..you really can't gauge which age he's (Psychologically) stuck at,...
But I'm starting the Bids at Eight Years Old?
But I'm starting the Bids at Eight Years Old?
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Hey, Donald, wasn't Canada part of China at one time?
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And now he wants to anger our friends, becoming fewer as Trump "opines". Trump is clueless besides being certifiably mental case. Look at your NYT opinions from psychiatric professionals. Please print this. This man has to be impeached. This is not the country I want to live in
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So Now it's TWO Walls?
Hmm, how did they not use "Another Brick in the Wall" as their theme song?
The title and opening verse alone,...is them 1000%, "We Don't Need No Edumacation."
Hmm, how did they not use "Another Brick in the Wall" as their theme song?
The title and opening verse alone,...is them 1000%, "We Don't Need No Edumacation."
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As a dual Canadian/US citizen, with one lie this guy can both offend me & make me ashamed.
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As far as the international trade is concerned --US bedrock economic instrument for growth and prosperity -- the Trump administration can either play the globalists card or the nationalists card. They are exclusive games.
Trump faces a mission impossible, a classical losing losing propositions. If the nationalist card is played, a trade war is inevitable; his wealthy donors will react. If the globalist card continues to be played, the voting base will riot.
My bet: Trump will go for the money. Sad! for a president elected to protect the working men/women of the land.
Trump faces a mission impossible, a classical losing losing propositions. If the nationalist card is played, a trade war is inevitable; his wealthy donors will react. If the globalist card continues to be played, the voting base will riot.
My bet: Trump will go for the money. Sad! for a president elected to protect the working men/women of the land.
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Let them eat cheese in Wisconsin. Seriously, make cheese, government purchase it and then put in the schools to supplement lunches. Trump just complains, yammers, and has no solutions.
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NYT you forgot to explain the actual trade dispute between the 75 dairy farm and Canada. Would having been interesting to understand the case.
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pete
Briefly, from a thoroughly biased point of view.
Canada tightly regulates production and quality of its dairy products. Their run of the mill daily bag of milk is pretty much equal to our super expensive custom glass bottle organic.
Canada, like the US, doesn't appreciate when foreign governments subsidize products and send them across the border at artificially low prices. Which is what the US does with dairy.
Now, to add some spice, there is currently a world wide glut of milk. World wide. Big glut. Not Bug Gulp.
Having plenty of better quality milk of their own, and objecting to our subsidized milk the way we object to Asia's subsidized steel, Canada placed a tariff on US dairy products to level the milky playing field.
We, ever resourceful and supremely ethical, invented a way to sell milk that isn't milk and thereby avoid the tariff. What we did was create a milk-protein solution that could not be drunk but was still useful in making cheese that is at least somewhat acceptable.
So: World wide glut. US subsidies. Canadian tariff. Non-milk/no-tariff exports. And the basic fact that Canadian dairy products are generally superior to ours = Trump tirade/trade confrontation in the north.
What you do not hear is anybody, Trump on down, pointing out that Wisconsin dairy farmers are also at risk from milk imports from Michigan. Because Wisconsin cheese makers, free of all concern for their home communities, prefer lower Michigan prices. Trade War!
Briefly, from a thoroughly biased point of view.
Canada tightly regulates production and quality of its dairy products. Their run of the mill daily bag of milk is pretty much equal to our super expensive custom glass bottle organic.
Canada, like the US, doesn't appreciate when foreign governments subsidize products and send them across the border at artificially low prices. Which is what the US does with dairy.
Now, to add some spice, there is currently a world wide glut of milk. World wide. Big glut. Not Bug Gulp.
Having plenty of better quality milk of their own, and objecting to our subsidized milk the way we object to Asia's subsidized steel, Canada placed a tariff on US dairy products to level the milky playing field.
We, ever resourceful and supremely ethical, invented a way to sell milk that isn't milk and thereby avoid the tariff. What we did was create a milk-protein solution that could not be drunk but was still useful in making cheese that is at least somewhat acceptable.
So: World wide glut. US subsidies. Canadian tariff. Non-milk/no-tariff exports. And the basic fact that Canadian dairy products are generally superior to ours = Trump tirade/trade confrontation in the north.
What you do not hear is anybody, Trump on down, pointing out that Wisconsin dairy farmers are also at risk from milk imports from Michigan. Because Wisconsin cheese makers, free of all concern for their home communities, prefer lower Michigan prices. Trade War!
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John, Thank you for the additional information. Pretty complex issue for such a simple product.
Mr. Trump doesn't tell the whole story. Based on veterinary evidence, Canada prohibited bovine growth hormone from its fresh milk supply. If the U.S. followed suit, the trade issue would largely resolve itself. The hormone leads to increased incidence of mastitis in the herd, and early onset arthritis. Akin to use of steroids, boosts performance at the cost of health.
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May I take this opportunity to apologize to our Canadian neighbors on behalf of of the American people and our government. We couldn't ask for a better friend.
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I HONESTLY don't believe POTUS Trump is a physical abuser, I really don't.
HowEva, he speaks and acts just like those dudes that beats their kids and spouses,...and says (to them) "Look What you made me do!!":):)
HowEva, he speaks and acts just like those dudes that beats their kids and spouses,...and says (to them) "Look What you made me do!!":):)
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When in doubt, throw a bomb. Seems that this is the President's complete foreign strategy whether it is on trade or terrorism.
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I'm sure Michael Moore would be delighted to arrange a WH screening of his 1995 "Canadian Bacon", which satirizes Canada-American relations.
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“He’s manically focused on these trade issues,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist.
Steve Bannon calling the President of the United States a maniac?
Steve Bannon calling the President of the United States a maniac?
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First thing comes to mind when reading the headline: oh ... needs to protect his personal business interests and promote his daughter 's.
But go ahead Dumb Deal: alienate Canada, your allies, the world - The rest of us will simply negotiate alliances, strike deals, sign treaties leaving you out. See how that works a treat for you.
But go ahead Dumb Deal: alienate Canada, your allies, the world - The rest of us will simply negotiate alliances, strike deals, sign treaties leaving you out. See how that works a treat for you.
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Don the con is saying one thing, then doing another. His crappy ties are made in China, he imports steel because it's cheaper for the buildings he erects in his honor.
I'm reminded of the scene from Casablanca:
Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This cafe is closed until further notice. Clear the room, at once!
Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Renault: I am shocked- shocked- to find that gambling is going on in here!
Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
Renault: Oh, thank you very much. Everybody out at once!
I'm reminded of the scene from Casablanca:
Renault: Everybody is to leave here immediately! This cafe is closed until further notice. Clear the room, at once!
Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Renault: I am shocked- shocked- to find that gambling is going on in here!
Croupier: [hands Renault money] Your winnings, sir.
Renault: Oh, thank you very much. Everybody out at once!
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America is harmed every day by the ignorance of this imposter of a president.
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Once again Trump goes off on something and everyone rushes to point out the facts. Get real people, facts don't matter to Trump. He will say, do ,believe anything for a political point. It's no use pointing out where he's wrong. He is and doesn't care. It doesn't matter to him. Get used to it.
You wanted someone to put the bus in a ditch, you have it.
You wanted someone to put the bus in a ditch, you have it.
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I seen the other day that wingnuts Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent visited the White House. I suspect that the Goober in Chief must have consumed considerable quantities of kool aid with them which would be the only logical way to explain his rantings. What next chicken farmers in American Samoa or perhaps toilet paper makers in Sudan.
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His supporters don't take his words seriously, his enemies don't take his words seriously, nobody takes him seriously other than the snivelling boot lickers starting at the floor in that photograph, and even then, it's because their families' welfare is dependent on his continued favour.
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Hello, how about all of Trump's products,that are made in China and his daughter just signing a deal to patent her products in China! Why not,start with the president buy American. A,e American.
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It would be nice if once in awhile Trump would sound like he knows what he's talking about.
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A complete disgrace to the office- only 100 days? Ignorant, corrupt and essentially stupid- When are the impeachment hearings beginning?
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For decades now US administrations (Yes, BOTH Democrats and Republicans) have rolled over when it came to other nations predatory trade practices, protectionism, import restrictions, product dumping and currency manipulation. It's not only China- although they are certainly guilty. Think back to the 1970's when Japan destroyed the American electronics industry, and then almost destroyed the US auto industry (not that our lack of innovation and commitment to quality didn't play a part). Then our ally Korea used Japans playbook, all the while severely restricting imports of most US products just like Japan did. One of our real friends who pretty much did not take advantage of our willingness to look the other way as our manufacturers were ravaged was Canada. We absolutely need to revisit our 'Free' trade agreements and make sure its not just free but 'Fair'. However, lets not throw out the baby with the bath water.
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Trump says Canada has been taking advantage of America under NAFTA through trade practices on dairy and soft wood lumber and he's calling for a quick renegotiation of NAFTA to address these two areas.
One problem Trump: neither dairy or soft wood lumber are part of NAFTA. Canada and America have essentially agreed to disagree on these two industries for the past 30 years.
He could summarily tear up NAFTA and dairy and soft wood lumber will still not be affected.
One problem Trump: neither dairy or soft wood lumber are part of NAFTA. Canada and America have essentially agreed to disagree on these two industries for the past 30 years.
He could summarily tear up NAFTA and dairy and soft wood lumber will still not be affected.
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The US government gives concessions for exclusive rights to fly to Dubai to JetBlue, an airline that doesn't fly to the Middle East. The highly lucrative market of US government and contractor traffic actually flies the Dubai national carrier Emirates through a "code share" with JetBlue... US tax dollars subsidizing a foreign carrier that has driven our own airlines out of the market, and yet it is all legal and OK... really?
The new and controversial pipeline in North Dakota is to move Canadian oil through Russian steel pipes across America but the Prez says the pipeline is good for the US and will create American jobs... really?
Come on Mr Trump, fair trade only seems relevant when convenient for photo ops and more bombastic posturing; for the love of country do something real and tangible like reversing these ridiculous fictions.
The new and controversial pipeline in North Dakota is to move Canadian oil through Russian steel pipes across America but the Prez says the pipeline is good for the US and will create American jobs... really?
Come on Mr Trump, fair trade only seems relevant when convenient for photo ops and more bombastic posturing; for the love of country do something real and tangible like reversing these ridiculous fictions.
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I thought that the word "globalist" was a not-so-nice word. And here it is throughout the article. Maybe I was wrong. It was certainly not a word used in the Obama years.
Meanwhile, Bannon says that Trump is "maniacally focused" on this issue. "Maniacally." Interesting word choice by Bannon.
Meanwhile, Bannon says that Trump is "maniacally focused" on this issue. "Maniacally." Interesting word choice by Bannon.
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Trump just announced that he's sending an armada to Saskatoon as a "show of force."
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Meanwhile, here in the UK, the deluded Brexit fools rushing for the cliff edge need to read this. They will then understand why there will be no Trump at the bottom of the cliff ensuring a soft landing. There will be no chance of an advantageous trade deal with the US replacing trade with the EU.
Trump may agree some sort of deal, but it will not be on even terms or helpful to the UK.
Trump may agree some sort of deal, but it will not be on even terms or helpful to the UK.
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With regards to what's happening in Canada, the article provides next to nothing. The reporter/editor clearly needed to do better here.
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I noticed a few women are visible in the picture now. Seems the administration finally noticed a bunch of old white men in all the pics of the President didn't look good - not even to their own base.
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But God forbid one of them had shown up in a pantsuit, and not a black dress à la the 1960s!
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This man’s hypocrisy never ceases to amaze! Trump needs to be reminded that the labels on his merchandise and that of his daughter don’t say “Made in the USA.” He needs to take Joni Ernst’s advice: Put your money where your mouth is and bring jobs here. I am paraphrasing what she said to her constituents at a recent town hall.
Before Trump talks about NAFTA he needs to consult Ernst and Mike Pence who understand how farmers have benefited from this agreement. Mexico brought $2.4 billion of American corn. Trump’s insulting comments already have the Mexicans shopping around and they may end up buying corn elsewhere. Now it’s Canada. Is he aware that our northern neighbor imported $280 billion worth of US products? This makes Canada the top importer of American goods. Mexico is in second place; buying $236.4 billion of our goods. These figures are all from 2015.
I recognize that NAFTA isn’t perfect but instead of insulting our trading partners, Trump needs to work with them to improve this agreement for all parties. This technique may have worked in the real estate world but what he said then affected his business and a few others. What he says now as president affects the lives of millions!
See:
msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/republican-senator-won-t-defend-trump-9241...
money.cnn.com/2017/02/13/news/economy/mexico-trump-us-corn/
thebalance.com/top-countries-that-import-u-s-products-3502316
Before Trump talks about NAFTA he needs to consult Ernst and Mike Pence who understand how farmers have benefited from this agreement. Mexico brought $2.4 billion of American corn. Trump’s insulting comments already have the Mexicans shopping around and they may end up buying corn elsewhere. Now it’s Canada. Is he aware that our northern neighbor imported $280 billion worth of US products? This makes Canada the top importer of American goods. Mexico is in second place; buying $236.4 billion of our goods. These figures are all from 2015.
I recognize that NAFTA isn’t perfect but instead of insulting our trading partners, Trump needs to work with them to improve this agreement for all parties. This technique may have worked in the real estate world but what he said then affected his business and a few others. What he says now as president affects the lives of millions!
See:
msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/republican-senator-won-t-defend-trump-9241...
money.cnn.com/2017/02/13/news/economy/mexico-trump-us-corn/
thebalance.com/top-countries-that-import-u-s-products-3502316
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The great wind-bag is now setting his sights on Canada? The United States and Canada have enjoyed a rich and beneficial relationship for decades. If he were to attempt to dismantle it we would see catastrophic economic collapse. However, since 70-80% of his talk is bluster, I would assume this is just another attempt to obfuscate his real intentions.
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I gather Trump doesn't realize that 90% of Canadians don't have a favourable impression of him so when he criticizes Canada he merely makes our PM Trudeau more popular and more Canadians likely to boycott US products and US travel. Oh, and he doesn't know what he's talking about as dairy is not part of NAFTA and Canadian milk, unlike the US, does not contain any hormones or antibiotics. Canada will fight back on trade...Stupid on Trump's part as we are your biggest customer, let alone ally and neighbour.
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Canada is the best neighbor a country could ever have. Since the President knows criticism gets attention, he does it. But Canada, ..., really? Next Apple Pie will be accused of taking all the limelight away from Mom. How about enough with the criticism of benign neighbors who are easy to get along with and fix some real problems?
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I certainly feel bad for the Winconsin Dairy Farmers but it is not the fault of Canada. Possibly supply management, which Canada has in place to that we don't overproduce, would be of benefit to your country as well. Canada is one of the few allies that the USA has left due to all the negative criticism coming from your President. We share a long border and it would be nice if it could be a peaceful one but talking down in a threatening manner to a friend and allie gets pretty old, pretty fast. Time to quit acting like a bully Donald and complaining that everyone in the planet is taking advantage of America. You are hurting American relationships with other countries and it's just plain rude. Start behaving like a President!
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The 46th President must be making a list:
Fix relations with the following nations;
1. Mexico
2. China
3. South Korea
4. Canada
5. (Check twitter next week)
Fix relations with the following nations;
1. Mexico
2. China
3. South Korea
4. Canada
5. (Check twitter next week)
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Our current president is the most hypocritical, ignorant individual in the history of the US government. In less than 100 days in government the Trumps are getting richer by the second.
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OMG. Too bad Trump can't Jane someone read (google) to him. Then he'd find out that Fage yogurt has its LARGEST plant in Johnstown, NY. Larger than any of its Greek plants. This guy is a moron, and people believe him. That's the sad part.
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It's so sad, frustrating and embarrassing that he knows nothing about trade or worldwide commerce. He just keeps throwing around words like "it's a disaster, it's a disgrace." Wait till the G7 get a load of his ignorance. Just a stupid fool of a man.
And so much for Bannon being on the outs.
Orange, NJ
And so much for Bannon being on the outs.
Orange, NJ
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Mr.Trump,be more intellegent and be grateful to the world.
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Donald Trump does not speak or behave like a normal person. He offers no assurance or comfort to the American masses. His tweets are just plain nasty. He and his cohorts promise to punish Americans and serve the rich. Furthermore the Republican party is comprised basically of aged or old fashioned wealthy men who know nothing of today's life and seem to belong to another century long past. These backward ideas are reflected in their childish negation of immigration, their stupid repression of women's rights and their outrageous narrow-minded obsession with a foolish wall to protect us from Mexico. Brainless insanity.
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As concerns dairy farmers and a long list of others who grow plants or animals, I suggest that Donald Trump's closest advisers listen to BBC World Radio's series in which reporters crossed the US to interview people in Trump counties, people who grow plants and animals and voted for Trump.
Last night via Vermont Public Radios BBC streaming the potato growers in Boise Idaho made very clear the following:
Without the workers who came here from Mexico we could not make it.
Potato demand in the US is flat so we depend on selling our potatoes internationally.
The same was heard from pig, chicken, and cattle growers when BBC visited Nebraska.
Send 'em all back to Mexico Donald and watch what happens. Your plot against your supporters takes shape.
Only-NeverInSweden.blogspot.com
Dual citizen US SE
Last night via Vermont Public Radios BBC streaming the potato growers in Boise Idaho made very clear the following:
Without the workers who came here from Mexico we could not make it.
Potato demand in the US is flat so we depend on selling our potatoes internationally.
The same was heard from pig, chicken, and cattle growers when BBC visited Nebraska.
Send 'em all back to Mexico Donald and watch what happens. Your plot against your supporters takes shape.
Only-NeverInSweden.blogspot.com
Dual citizen US SE
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Why should trump's people listen to real news when they can fake it, put it out in the media and then quote it back?
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Just so you know, there are visas available specifically for agricultural workers. If farmers are not getting people using this visas they are likely not paying properly. So if there are crackdowns it does not mean the end of a supply of all labor, just cheap, underpaid and abused labor.
Representative Earl Blumenaur (D-OR3) has introduced legislation that allows the Vice President and Cabinet to call on former Presidents and Vice Presidents to assess the President's capacity to carry our the duties of the office.
Pass it now. We are sliding into a genuine constitutional crisis.
Pass it now. We are sliding into a genuine constitutional crisis.
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There are so many real problems that need to be addressed in our country but instead Trump is drumming up all these fake problems and mythical solutions. Sad!
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He's a dangerously unstable individual, with no core beliefs, other than his narcissism, and greed. Like an ideological ape, he swings from policy to policy. Now he's attacking Canada? The man is in real need of psychiatric help. Barring that, we should start seriously looking at impeachment on invoking the 25th amendment. He has turned our country into a laughing stock.
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Well this isjust precious, coming from a man who used Chinese steel, not "Made in America," in a number of his own buildings -- http://www.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-... -- all those non-union foreign workers, and all those small businesses he stiffed when he decided that their work was "unacceptable."
I guess Trump has two versions of reality, as usual: what everyone else needs to do, and what Trump is allowed to get away with. What a sanctimonious, two-faced [expletive].
I guess Trump has two versions of reality, as usual: what everyone else needs to do, and what Trump is allowed to get away with. What a sanctimonious, two-faced [expletive].
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Biggest chiester of all time. Draining the swamp? With Goldman Sachs and big oil folks running the country? Please. The swamp has infiltrated the White House....
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Heaven knows we pay way too much for dairy products in Canada, and the system of supply management (production quotas) basically transfers money from average citizens to wealthy dairy farmers, while unfairly shutting out producers in other countries. So Trump did us a favour by calling us out on that.
However, getting rid of this system is a lot more complicated than one might think, because of the Quebec situation. For historical reasons, the system guarantees Quebec producers an artificially large share of the market. In 1995, when Quebec held its referendum on secession from Canada, the result was very close – a shift of 25,000 votes would have turned the “no” to a “yes”. The secessionists were especially disappointed that the dairying region around Quebec City voted “no”. So in a way, we have supply management to thank for the continued existence of Canada. In the next secession referendum (if there is one), we can hope for a wider margin for the “no” vote, but nothing is certain. People need to take all of the factors into account in looking at trade issues such as this one.
However, getting rid of this system is a lot more complicated than one might think, because of the Quebec situation. For historical reasons, the system guarantees Quebec producers an artificially large share of the market. In 1995, when Quebec held its referendum on secession from Canada, the result was very close – a shift of 25,000 votes would have turned the “no” to a “yes”. The secessionists were especially disappointed that the dairying region around Quebec City voted “no”. So in a way, we have supply management to thank for the continued existence of Canada. In the next secession referendum (if there is one), we can hope for a wider margin for the “no” vote, but nothing is certain. People need to take all of the factors into account in looking at trade issues such as this one.
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Maybe Bannon should spend his widely-touted ‘intellect’ on actually studying international trade agreements instead of basing policy on his preferred diet of dystopian racist screeds or laughably cultish views of history as returning apocalyptic cycles.
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He's now alienated both Mexico and Canada - good thing we don't have any more neighbors. This guy is like a bad tenant in a trailer park.
Trump speaks and acts like someone who's been completely insulated during his long life, someone who's never had to rely on the kindness of strangers to get by. Someone with no inkling that he is in fact vulnerable and dependent upon community, just like the rest of us.
He casually launches missiles over chocolate cake, unaware of even where they're going, as if he didn't have to worry about a missile finding its way into his own house. Unaware that he's connected, as a human being, to whomever has the misfortune of being where his missiles land.
Guy's a sad case. If he weren't president I'd feel sorry for him. Maybe.
Trump speaks and acts like someone who's been completely insulated during his long life, someone who's never had to rely on the kindness of strangers to get by. Someone with no inkling that he is in fact vulnerable and dependent upon community, just like the rest of us.
He casually launches missiles over chocolate cake, unaware of even where they're going, as if he didn't have to worry about a missile finding its way into his own house. Unaware that he's connected, as a human being, to whomever has the misfortune of being where his missiles land.
Guy's a sad case. If he weren't president I'd feel sorry for him. Maybe.
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So let's see...... American farmers overproduce milk, take the good from it for their butter production then ship their Class 7 ultra-filtered junk left to Canada, which can be used for cheese........... then Canada, who is totally self sufficent and does not export milk to the USA decides that we no longer need their milk to produce our own cheese and our farmers can produce enough to fill our the need.. so we tell them, no more Class 7 product (which is their overproduction problem) ....... and we as Canadians are terrible, unfair etc etc. WTH? Buy American does not apply to our country Donald!!!
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Milk? Seriously? Pretty sure Canada can get along without American milk or processed cheese slices that likely have little milk content. What Trump might want to think about is not milk but water...this is where Canada holds the "trump" card. A few dams north of the border might shut down a few power stations on the south side with the flip of a switch.
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Now that China is no longer a currency manipulator is there some way that Pierre Trudeau can help Uday and Qusay (Ibn Father of all alternative truthers) make more money through SPECTRE / Trump Enterprises?
I would have said The Band of Brooks Brothers Kushner but presume the family has divided the world geographically: given Uday and Qusay's Uruguay focus, assume they have Americas while Kushner has Asia.
Keep an eye on upcoming Trump family deals in Canada.
I would have said The Band of Brooks Brothers Kushner but presume the family has divided the world geographically: given Uday and Qusay's Uruguay focus, assume they have Americas while Kushner has Asia.
Keep an eye on upcoming Trump family deals in Canada.
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Trump continues to show his ignorance-this time on a specific trade issue involving Canada. He has a short attention span and only acts on the last thing he encounters. In this case, American dairy farmers.
The dairy issue is a very stable trade agreement and has been working for years to satisfaction on both sides of the border. Now, in his ignorance, Trump has decided to make an issue of an non-issue.
While Canada believes the current system is working well and encourages American interests to continue we can take comfort in the fact that if Trump and his stooge Ross alter the dairy trade agreement, American dairy farmers will be the losers.
Canada has developed one of the safest and most innovative dairy industries in the world. If America chooses to use NAFTA rework to punish Canadian dairy farmers he can expect a vigorous retaliation. Perhaps some person in America with a better grip on these real life issues will have the good sense to reign in the Trump obsession with instant false comments.
The dairy issue is a very stable trade agreement and has been working for years to satisfaction on both sides of the border. Now, in his ignorance, Trump has decided to make an issue of an non-issue.
While Canada believes the current system is working well and encourages American interests to continue we can take comfort in the fact that if Trump and his stooge Ross alter the dairy trade agreement, American dairy farmers will be the losers.
Canada has developed one of the safest and most innovative dairy industries in the world. If America chooses to use NAFTA rework to punish Canadian dairy farmers he can expect a vigorous retaliation. Perhaps some person in America with a better grip on these real life issues will have the good sense to reign in the Trump obsession with instant false comments.
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Canada has been the largest and biggest beneficiary of American free trade agreements that have been on the books for over 50 years. High time the Canadian government phased them out, as we should also on this side, and let the market forces prevail without artificial supports or interventions. We are still going to be each others' greatest trading partner in dollar terms...
Trump has been a disaster as president, but on trade, he's one of the few politicians who make any sense. You attempt belittle him by pointing to the absurdity of his attack on Canada, but that isn't the real news here, and the fact that you think it is says a lot about why we Democrats lost the election. How my fellow liberals became so illiberal and contemptuous of the working class is something I will never understand.
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Please point to his success with all his blustering ! He is a childish fool that requires a thinking adult to lead the room's discussion.
He can't hold into s though longer than it takes him to pass wind. Then another bluster comes out the other end. Please.
Something positive about changing the guard on this awful bunch of Keystone Cops who cannot shoot straight.
They cannot govern.
They don't want to govern
They won't learn how to govern.
Just bluster and say no.
Democrats SHOULD learn: put something anything positive on the table and run with it.
He can't hold into s though longer than it takes him to pass wind. Then another bluster comes out the other end. Please.
Something positive about changing the guard on this awful bunch of Keystone Cops who cannot shoot straight.
They cannot govern.
They don't want to govern
They won't learn how to govern.
Just bluster and say no.
Democrats SHOULD learn: put something anything positive on the table and run with it.
I don't know how things stand now but many years ago I knew of a man whose job was to order steel for his company, and he had had to order steel he from abroad because of the poor quality of domestic steel. I have no idea whether this was a special kind or a normal type of steel. It is perhaps not coincidental that this was the period in which Americans turned away from domestic cars because of their unreliability, something that fortunately is no longer true.
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Look there, don't look here! This is what Trump has been doing. Cohn, Kushner or Bannon are all props.
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While I was reading this article, I suddenly thought, "Why does the media cover this guy?" Then I realized, 'oh right. Sigh. He's the president.' But I do think that covering him as if he's actually presidential and not just the president, is a mistake. Next week, he'll be sending a flotilla off again, or bombing someone or building another wall. Or, maybe he'll become a Democrat. Does it really matter whay he says? There's just no credibility, just shock and awe...um shock and bore.
With his unique blow-hot-blow-cold style, the way Trump shifts his stances on the foreign trade front one thing is pretty much clear that neither his base takes him seriously any more, nor the trade partners against whom he directs his diatribes. The best example of this muddled thinking could be China, which was earlier singled out as the main villain of the trade drama, but now becomes a favourite trade spot to attract his family business and investment to, thanks to the untiring efforts of his son-in-law Jared Kushner.
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From the office of the U.S. Trade Representative:
"U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $662.7 billion in 2015. Exports were $337.3 billion; imports were $325.4 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $11.9 billion in 2015."
Thank God the U.S. has billion monthly trade surplus otherwise Admiral Trump would be ordering his mighty Armada up the St. Lawrence and into the Salish Sea.
Canadians were suffering Australia envy after Trump told Oz p.m. Turnbull that their conversation was the worst he had had that day.
But all Trump could do is call Canada a "disgrace" and we didn't even rate the criticism levelled on the Pope let alone a full blown temper tantrum meltdown. Still, Justin Trudeau will gladly accept any criticism from Trump who is loathed in Canada from coast to coast to coast, the most contemptible president ever.
"U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $662.7 billion in 2015. Exports were $337.3 billion; imports were $325.4 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with Canada was $11.9 billion in 2015."
Thank God the U.S. has billion monthly trade surplus otherwise Admiral Trump would be ordering his mighty Armada up the St. Lawrence and into the Salish Sea.
Canadians were suffering Australia envy after Trump told Oz p.m. Turnbull that their conversation was the worst he had had that day.
But all Trump could do is call Canada a "disgrace" and we didn't even rate the criticism levelled on the Pope let alone a full blown temper tantrum meltdown. Still, Justin Trudeau will gladly accept any criticism from Trump who is loathed in Canada from coast to coast to coast, the most contemptible president ever.
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Ok, just stop the plans for shipping oil from Alberta by pipeline through the US to shipping ports. Just keep sending it directly from your ports through the St Lawrence Seaway. Hit him where he hurts.
My family in Alberta despise Trump utterly. They used to spend their vacations touring the States. Now they will tour the Provinces instead.
Canada, what's not to like?
My family in Alberta despise Trump utterly. They used to spend their vacations touring the States. Now they will tour the Provinces instead.
Canada, what's not to like?
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No sweat: Spicer hasn't a clue who Justin Trudeau is and his boss is clueless where Canada is situated on a globe. You're totally right re Ivanka KushnerTrump's increased business interests, so China knows Trump will leave it alone. Especially, as he needs it to restrain Kim. The whole idea of a "sweeping investigation" is another way to deflect from all that's wrong with the current US admin.
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The favourite words of The Donald describing other nations are "disaster, disgrace and mess".
And that while the heads of the very same countries as well as the majority of Americans considers him a disaster, disgrace and mess.
The only country that still seems to love him is Spain, by having diverted their Armada from invading England, and lending it Admiral Trump.
And that while the heads of the very same countries as well as the majority of Americans considers him a disaster, disgrace and mess.
The only country that still seems to love him is Spain, by having diverted their Armada from invading England, and lending it Admiral Trump.
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On behalf of he sensible people in the US, I apologize to my Canadian friends, colleagues and acquaintances. Most of us didn't vote for this fool and we are trying to figure out how to get rid of him. Please bear with us!
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Awww, you are welcome to come to Canada. We will treat you nice :)
Most of you didn't even vote.
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Yes Trump is an embarrassing moron. If things are as bad as Trump indicates, all it shows is that America is an incompetent country, full of stupid incompetent people. Perhaps it's true. It's beginning to feel that way. I am tired of America being run by an adolescent.
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Does DJT even know where Canada is? There does seem to be a long list of countries to blame for America's woes with the trade, however, this is a global issue we are all facing. Each and every country can tell you a story or two where they are affected. I wonder what will happen if all the alienated countries group up and form a TPP of sorts. Could call it the DDLUA (Donald Doesn't Like Us Anymore) Trade deal. Of course, all this would be patriotic and have merit regarding bringing back jobs and manufacturing, buy USA etc if the person making all the noise practiced what he preaches.
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Gov. Scott 1% Walker of Wisconsin proposed building a wall along the U.S. — Canadian border when he was running for president. One of Walker's big supporters was Todd Ricketts, whose wife is from Canada, so I never understood why he was supporting the 1% whack job who wanted to build the northern wall.
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I think you just answered your own question...
Ricketts would have profited in one way or another from building the wall with American tax dollars. The whole "wall" thing is just another transfer of wealth from the taxpayers (the middle class) to the elite class of super rich. It will do nothing to immigration, which is already as a low point, but it will upend the lives of the people whose land will be claimed by immiant domain. But who are they? The little people are just there to be exploited.
Cubs Fan, watching your President in action, there are probably many Canadians who are now hoping you will build a northern wall.
We need some way to contain the lunacy to the south of our border.
We need some way to contain the lunacy to the south of our border.
"What they’ve done to our farm workers is a disgrace. It’s a disgrace.”
Mr. Trump what you have done with many small businesses you worked with was a disgrace, what Canada did was much less harmful than what you in all your business dealings.
Secondly, you pretend that you to care about American workers yet you rely on H2 visas at some of you golf courses, so you don't have to pay the "clearing" wage for seasonal works. let alone a living wage.
Mr. Trump what you have done with many small businesses you worked with was a disgrace, what Canada did was much less harmful than what you in all your business dealings.
Secondly, you pretend that you to care about American workers yet you rely on H2 visas at some of you golf courses, so you don't have to pay the "clearing" wage for seasonal works. let alone a living wage.
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And thirdly, mr Trump, you build your buildings with Chinese steel, because that is cheaper...
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And fourthly we are aware, Mr. Trump, that now that you have been granted blanket immunity for ethics and conflict of interest violations, virtually all of your trade pronouncements have hurt your competition in real estate, hospitality, late night sleaze retailing, and the import of wildly overpriced if uniquely ugly fashion labels owned by you and your "I'd do anything for money if they'd just ask me" little princess.
So, "use American steel" is a good way to bankrupt your rivals while you ignore your own law and continue to import steel from Asia.
"Use American labor" is a good way to price your competitors out of your market, while you get nasty ties, watery wine, kind of icky food made at the cheapest foreign ports you can find.
"Save American jobs" is an excellent way to cut into competitors' profits even as you import lawn crews, pool babes, and many wives from Eastern Europe and employ them without proper immigration documents, without proper employment papers, and without paying them a minimum wage.
You're a real peach, Mr. President, and a really unattractive scoundrel. Here's hoping you don't last long.
So, "use American steel" is a good way to bankrupt your rivals while you ignore your own law and continue to import steel from Asia.
"Use American labor" is a good way to price your competitors out of your market, while you get nasty ties, watery wine, kind of icky food made at the cheapest foreign ports you can find.
"Save American jobs" is an excellent way to cut into competitors' profits even as you import lawn crews, pool babes, and many wives from Eastern Europe and employ them without proper immigration documents, without proper employment papers, and without paying them a minimum wage.
You're a real peach, Mr. President, and a really unattractive scoundrel. Here's hoping you don't last long.
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Things were getting a little quiet since N Korea. Time for more crazy.
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When in doubt, blame Canada eh.
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Is he really picking a fight with Canada, our closest neighbor and ally? He's already told Mexico to go to hell; just today the Secretary of Homeland Security was on the border boasting how many agents will be in the new security corps.
So when we leave NATO and NAFTA and TPP, after the EU falls apart who is going to stand up with us to Kim Jong-un? Did Putin choose the dimmest bulb, knowing he'd single handedly destroy the Western Alliance?
Dear Republican Leadership: You've had your fun. Gorsuch is on the Court. The current strategy (if there is one) points to a fractured West. Russia wins without firing a shot. Or Russia wins with Kim firing a missile. Either way Russia wins. As the Great Man says, "Sad."
So when we leave NATO and NAFTA and TPP, after the EU falls apart who is going to stand up with us to Kim Jong-un? Did Putin choose the dimmest bulb, knowing he'd single handedly destroy the Western Alliance?
Dear Republican Leadership: You've had your fun. Gorsuch is on the Court. The current strategy (if there is one) points to a fractured West. Russia wins without firing a shot. Or Russia wins with Kim firing a missile. Either way Russia wins. As the Great Man says, "Sad."
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No doubt all those new border agents will be hired as contractors, not federal workers. That way they can be a profit center for some corporation who will deny them benefits and worker protections. The irony would be if they were hired from Mexico, but that really wouldn't shock me.
Just like everything else from our blowhard POTUS, it's just a lot of hot air and no results. His number 1 priority is to undo anything Obama did for our nation in 8 years. This was exactly what the heads of both houses wanted from day one, besides stacking the Supreme Court with more Clarence Thomas right wing loons. Hang on, the next 4 years are going to be a rough ride unless he gets caught up like Tricky Dick Nixon and has to avoid impeachment. Then we get stuck with the genius VP Mike Pence! Thank's young 'feel the burn'
Dem's in the blue wall mid-west states for not coming out and electing our overqualified choice! Hopefully, I live long enough to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm too old to find another country like Canada that shares my values!
Dem's in the blue wall mid-west states for not coming out and electing our overqualified choice! Hopefully, I live long enough to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm too old to find another country like Canada that shares my values!
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Hey, I have an idea for you. The Democratic "big tent" is obviously too big. Why don't you insult your fellow Democrats and make sure they become Independents? That should shrink the tent down to where it should be, just the sneeringly self-righteous upper-class professionals, like you.
Maybe the time has come for a new Democratic party. This time we could consider one that represents the people instead of the corporations and Wall Street.
Maybe the time has come for a new Democratic party. This time we could consider one that represents the people instead of the corporations and Wall Street.
Here we again! Is there anything or anyone that he respects in this country and/or the world? I'm absolutely disgusted with his negative rhetoric, his deregulations which will only serve to hurt most citizens of the United States, and his promises that will never reach fruition. I hope that his lack of foreign policy knowledge will not ultimately end in World War III. He is quite impulsive and bombastic. He needs to be reined in by those in his administration who understand the way our government works and the importance of consulting and working with others within our country and throughout the world.
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Least of all himself.
Ah, he stacked his cabinet with people like him: billionaires who know nothing about government, only self-aggrandizement. What's wrong with that? Isn't the function of government to coddle them with subsidies?
I think I have seen this movie about steel trade before, with a different director.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/buy-american-provision-returns-in-obama-s-...
This is the closest reference I can find. I remember another story in our media, before I started paying attention to yours, about pipes being ripped out of the ground, or not installed, because they were 'Canadian' and not USA made. We both lost most of our steel industry to Korea and Japan decades ago. We can both mourn that, and in another universe that might come back.
As far as I can tell, and who am I(?), it is all political posturing.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/buy-american-provision-returns-in-obama-s-...
This is the closest reference I can find. I remember another story in our media, before I started paying attention to yours, about pipes being ripped out of the ground, or not installed, because they were 'Canadian' and not USA made. We both lost most of our steel industry to Korea and Japan decades ago. We can both mourn that, and in another universe that might come back.
As far as I can tell, and who am I(?), it is all political posturing.
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Right. The US steel industry is coming back around the same time the whaling industry is returning to New England.
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First it was cussing out PM Turnbull of Australia for having a "stoopid immigration policy".
Then refusing the obligatory hand shake of German Chancellor Merkel at their last meeting.
Trump and family then rollout the red carpet for our pre-election adversary China. First his adorable granddaughter serenades Chinese President Xi in Mandarin, then decides to not label China a currency manipulator even though it was one of his main campaign slogans. Trump now says he has full confidence in Pres. Xi in dealing with North Korea. Trump ties Chinas help with "better economic deals", i.e., more lost jobs to China , and he and Ivanka get Chinese approval of over 150 Trademarks for Trump licensed products in China. What a coincidence. China is now our post election friend.
Looking to upset more allies , Canada enters Trumps crosshairs. Canada. "Hey hoser" Canada. Polite to a fault Canada. Our allies since,.. forever.
But that's over. To borrow Atty. Gen Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III phrase, its the Trump era now.
Then refusing the obligatory hand shake of German Chancellor Merkel at their last meeting.
Trump and family then rollout the red carpet for our pre-election adversary China. First his adorable granddaughter serenades Chinese President Xi in Mandarin, then decides to not label China a currency manipulator even though it was one of his main campaign slogans. Trump now says he has full confidence in Pres. Xi in dealing with North Korea. Trump ties Chinas help with "better economic deals", i.e., more lost jobs to China , and he and Ivanka get Chinese approval of over 150 Trademarks for Trump licensed products in China. What a coincidence. China is now our post election friend.
Looking to upset more allies , Canada enters Trumps crosshairs. Canada. "Hey hoser" Canada. Polite to a fault Canada. Our allies since,.. forever.
But that's over. To borrow Atty. Gen Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III phrase, its the Trump era now.
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Trump has some disease. Something affecting his brain.
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You forgot the photos Ivanka tweeted of her children playing with building blocks that have Chinese characters before President XI's visit. The Trumps have no problem brown nosing when it lines their pockets.
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Hmm. Initiating a sweeping investigation? The Russian interference in our 2016 election and who may have been involved? Go Trump! Start the investigation!
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“He’s manically focused on these trade issues,” said Stephen K. Bannon, the president’s chief strategist.
So it's not just me who thinks that, then. That's a relief.
So it's not just me who thinks that, then. That's a relief.
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This buttresses the proposition that Trump's views are inordinately influenced by the very last thing he saw or heard.
At the conclusion of the article we read that he was recently in Wisconsin where 75 dairy farmers lost their buyer because of a trade dispute with Canada. Then he bellows that Canada is persecuting our dairy farmers.
For years, he was opposed to intervention in Syria. Then he saw video of the sarin gas attack, he was properly incensed and he decided to intervene.
A lot of people think that pictures don't lie and are truer than language, but they are wrong and pictures are the worst way to run foreign policy.
Example: In 2003, we saw film footage of about 100 people topple a statue of Sadaam in Badhdad. We assumed, as Bush had said, that our mission was accomplished. We were too stupid to understand that the 100 people in the photograph were not necessarily representative of the millions of Iraqi. We were willfully deaf, dumb and blind to the growing insurrection.
Example: At the end of 1992, we saw video of people starving in Somalia. We sent troops in. Then, some of our troops were attacked and killed in a very brutal matter. In early 93, we withdrew.
One Should consider all relevant facts, and not let one's brain be unduly swayed by the last thing it glimpsed. Nietzsche said he despised men who are too easily affected by the most current trend or news. But I'm sure the Dumb as a dodo Donald never read Neitzsche.
At the conclusion of the article we read that he was recently in Wisconsin where 75 dairy farmers lost their buyer because of a trade dispute with Canada. Then he bellows that Canada is persecuting our dairy farmers.
For years, he was opposed to intervention in Syria. Then he saw video of the sarin gas attack, he was properly incensed and he decided to intervene.
A lot of people think that pictures don't lie and are truer than language, but they are wrong and pictures are the worst way to run foreign policy.
Example: In 2003, we saw film footage of about 100 people topple a statue of Sadaam in Badhdad. We assumed, as Bush had said, that our mission was accomplished. We were too stupid to understand that the 100 people in the photograph were not necessarily representative of the millions of Iraqi. We were willfully deaf, dumb and blind to the growing insurrection.
Example: At the end of 1992, we saw video of people starving in Somalia. We sent troops in. Then, some of our troops were attacked and killed in a very brutal matter. In early 93, we withdrew.
One Should consider all relevant facts, and not let one's brain be unduly swayed by the last thing it glimpsed. Nietzsche said he despised men who are too easily affected by the most current trend or news. But I'm sure the Dumb as a dodo Donald never read Neitzsche.
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Well stated. Regarding the Sadam statue photo, I watched a brief interview last year just prior to the Chilcot inquiry findings in the UK. It was with the man in the photo who was smashing the statue with a sledgehammer. He said, 'Sadam is gone, but in his place there are 1,000 Sadams.'
He's illiterate.
I'd be surpised if he has ever read anything more elevated than Bazooka Joe.
As a Canadian, I am sure that China would love to purchase Canadian dairy products. I am also sure China would love a permanent naval base in Canada - and in Mexico. Be very careful what you wish for, Mr. President, lest you get it. What does it profit a man to win the battle if he loses the war?
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Yes fine idea. Time for Canada and Mexico to do something about this moron instead of taking his abuse. Ports on the west coast of Canada and east coast of Mexico rented to Russia. And vice versa to China. That should give something for Trump to blow a blood vessel over. Capitulating to a bully never works. Stand up to this thug please our friends north and south of the border. America is going down the tubes with this idiot. Let's get it over with.
The low inflation we enjoyed for the past decade is the direct consequence of cheap import. Trump's policy will have the direct consequence of higher inflation if similar products were to be produced locally as our labor cost is much higher.
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Maybe not. Because it is true that we can't build (fill in the blank - cars, furniture, etc) as cheaply in the U.S. .....UNLESS we get rid of all environmental protection, occupational health and safety regulation, break the unions....basically, UNdevelop. Yes, the U.S. is becoming an UNdeveloping country and this is exactly their plan - build the wealth of multinational corporations and enrich themselves on the backs of American workers. Those people who want jobs so badly? They may get jobs, but not the jobs they and their fathers once held. They'll get the jobs of an early industrial nation and good luck to them if they are injured on the job.
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The trade deals with the Russians should be the first thing fully examined. Did he accept help from the Russians in the campaign in exchange for lifting oil embargoes? He needs a Secretary of State who is aware of diplomacy and not just profit taking. Finally, until he can start to remember which country he bombed or where he sent the aircraft carriers, he should just go and play golf and let the adults take the room.
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Which "adults"? The billionaires who are raiding the treasury, like Trump, or the ones rewriting all the regulations to profit them directly in other ways?
To find "adults" in that administration you will have to go into the treasury vaults to find them.
To find "adults" in that administration you will have to go into the treasury vaults to find them.
Wear it like a badge of honor Canada.
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We can't keep up with Chinese demand for our dairy products. How about you guys in Canada take the rest of the market? We are doing better since Trump killed the TPP.
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We wonder when DJT will demand that Trump hotels throughout the globe throw out all the Chinese-made linens, towels, furniture, ornaments and other gaudy goodies and replace them with only American-made products. We suppose it will never happen, folks.
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Don't forget the Chinese manufactured steel Trump has used in his hotel projects. Rich, huh, Trump lambasting China for dumping steel onto the American market, yet he has used it over American steel. He is a blathering hypocrite.
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Are you kidding? What a traitor you are my friend. The Divine King is allowed to do what he likes.
Well here is to hoping less American diary makes it over our border; Canada does not allow for the use of bovine growth hormone to boost output, putting us in league with Europe, Australia, Japan and others.
So thanks Trump for nixing TPP on your end as that would have allowed more of it into our food supply.
So thanks Trump for nixing TPP on your end as that would have allowed more of it into our food supply.
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Too bad we couldn't get more European food products because they ban many of the pesticides that the Dow chemicals of the US gleefully spray on our food.
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Trump rails against anything that President Obama--and the majority of Americn People--stood for, and hope to retain. And now, he is getting desperate for a win--anything--as he has only ten more days until the 100 days mark!
Management and Common Sense are the keys Donald, not ignorance, irrational ideas and disruption in the West Wing. Fire your Famil!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
Management and Common Sense are the keys Donald, not ignorance, irrational ideas and disruption in the West Wing. Fire your Famil!
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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A 5 time bankrupt having management skills? Dream on.
Trump, the mouse that roared. Through gross incompetence, our so-called president has lost so much international credibility in his first weeks in office that he may feel obliged to bomb somebody, anybody to look tough. Afghanistan, Syria, North Korea? ..wait, no, no, not Canada, please , please say it ain't so.
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"We are groping here...." Wilbur L. Ross, Trump's secretary of commerce.
The jokes continue to write themselves.
The jokes continue to write themselves.
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Greatest *Freudian Slip* ever to come out of a WH, and sums it all. Let it not be forgotten, by SNL or anyone.
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Wait till Trump taps into the Canadian Maple Syrup Cartel. That's where the real money is. Its all about breakfast. Toast with a pat of butter, milk for your cereal and maple syrup for your pancakes. Tumps issues are literally what he see's in front of him.
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First thing that popped into my mind too. Must be my childhood in the Rochester area.
Can't this President keep his tongue in any situation? He is just an old nag and a sour one at that without much, if any, proportion to his comments. The Canadians couldn't harm our economy even if we didn't show up for a few months. Go away Trump, you are disgusting.
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Look at his bloated, red face. Wouldn't you just love to see Trump keel over from a fit of apoplexy?
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Reality check untill government stops using tax dallors to purchase imports jobs will never come back to usa. As for talk theres no reason to talk just action. Means no more imported computors for the government put the federal imates to work have them make governments computors.
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The first government leader to push back on multi national corporations and silicon valley greed and stand up for US workers. Go Trump. Stop Illegal immigration. Fix legal immigration so the Indian bodyshops are not flooding US with cheap low skilled guest workers.
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The Silicon Valley "greed" ..is presumably a reference to the most vibrant sector in our economy..not like coal mines. The reference to Indian workers coming to our shores refers to those educated people who are hired because the US educational systems cannot produce any where near enough trained scientists or doctors to meet our needs. Yes, Trump and his adoring fans do indeed have very much in common at the intellectual level. That is the take home message here.
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Doesn't Trump import cheap offshore workers for his projects? And make his ties and other products in foreign countries? How about you do some research about Trump's business practices before you call him a "government leader" who is pushing back and standing up for US workers?
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And once we get rid of all the immigrants, the burgeoning epidemics of mental illness, alcoholism and opioid addiction among the righteous white population will create an economic panic that no orange-faced presidunce can manage!
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What next - a wall along the US-Canada border? He may need it for the same reason the East Germans needed the Berlin wall.
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President Trump’s never ending incompetence and lack of knowledge continues to amaze me. Blaming other countries for our short comings is ludicrous. How about taking responsibility and blaming the U.S. for a change; these irregularities were self imposed and much of the USA steel production was driven out of the country due to corporate greed and the maximization of the almighty dollar.
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Ah, there we go, Canada joins the enemies list.
For a while I thought Trump was going to stop after blaming Mexico and Germany and Sweden and Australia and Britain. But no. Now Canada can hold its head high in the international community, identified by no less than Trump the Terrible Twitterer as another knife-in-the-back enemy of the American people.
Amazing that Americans held these nations as firm allies, as co-workers in making Earth a better place for all, as trusted friends. Our fathers and our mothers told us so.
It took Trump and Pence to teach us that the good guys are the bad guys and that Putin's Russia is the outstanding example of the world leader worthy of homage.
For a while I thought Trump was going to stop after blaming Mexico and Germany and Sweden and Australia and Britain. But no. Now Canada can hold its head high in the international community, identified by no less than Trump the Terrible Twitterer as another knife-in-the-back enemy of the American people.
Amazing that Americans held these nations as firm allies, as co-workers in making Earth a better place for all, as trusted friends. Our fathers and our mothers told us so.
It took Trump and Pence to teach us that the good guys are the bad guys and that Putin's Russia is the outstanding example of the world leader worthy of homage.
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Look on the bright side. TWO Beautiful, tall, enormously long and expensive border walls!
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Well...sorry eh. Really we are not a threat...unless you are talking Stanley Cup. Then, it's personal!
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Trump will be the first President to bankrupt the United States. It's the one thing he's very, very good at, have declared bankruptcy six times. He even lies about that and says it was four because 3 were all the same company.
But bankruptcy and losing other people's money is what he has ALWAYS done.
But bankruptcy and losing other people's money is what he has ALWAYS done.
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Reagan was the first.
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LOL! Well, St. Ronnie certainly tried, didn't he? But he never led us to default on the National Debt. Trump may well yet.
Reagan didn't try. He succeeded. We are still reeling from it, and default, which you didn't mention in your first comment, isn't the issue.
Not buying Ivanka Trumps clothes, or visiting Trumps towers, is likely harming national security.
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I'm wondering … does Trump understand that the Canadian-owned Keystone Pipeline he approved will transport exclusively Canadian oil into and thru the US.
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Shhh! It may be like the wayward aircraft carrier group - he doesn't know which way it goes.
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Of course not, don't be silly.
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JL : The Keystone pipeline is dead at current oil prices but especially the $10/barrel lower price that Canada will receive by piping it to the Texas refineries which have lots of competing heavy oil from Venezuela. Piping it to Canada`s west coast will result in the a $10/barrel higher price by sending it to China et al.
Trump`s signing the Keystone "approval" is like himself. a meaningless act.
Please do not wait 4 years to replace Trump or more than 2 yrs to dump the GGOP out of Congress. The world is watching & will be eating your lunch if you do not act.
Trump`s signing the Keystone "approval" is like himself. a meaningless act.
Please do not wait 4 years to replace Trump or more than 2 yrs to dump the GGOP out of Congress. The world is watching & will be eating your lunch if you do not act.
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This was true about the US military clothing system. Before we began to get China to make our uniforms, US service clothing was lovely stuff, worth it's weight in precious metal and sold for a fraction, at surplus stores. I recall the involved and careful written instructions sewn in for care of my Korean war era three quarter length, cotton coat/w/liner jacket with steel zipper and snaps. No velcro, nodangerous artificial materials which could literally be melted into a service person's wounds as a result of accident.
US made clothing material might have cost more but it went through three to 10 lives on the backs of soldiers-their brothers, girlfriends and maybe then, their sons or daughters. Finally-like my 3/4 length Korean war jacket, it literally fell apart -in the middle-not the seams-because it had seen over 50 years of hard, cold weather use. It would be worth way over a thousand maybe more, dollars today. In original condition, real US made army clothes are like finding gold coins in a sea of post '82 pennies.
US WW2 war manufacturing benefited from a agreement allowing any US manufacturer to make what was needed, no matter which company designed it. It was genius-like our uniforms-(maybe Germany's clothes and arms were better made,( with wool?-I never wore them), but we never faltered in quantity and that supercharged our manufacturing economy. We ought never return to a tariff act as in the 30's, which was suicidal but we deserve some special treatment . . .
US made clothing material might have cost more but it went through three to 10 lives on the backs of soldiers-their brothers, girlfriends and maybe then, their sons or daughters. Finally-like my 3/4 length Korean war jacket, it literally fell apart -in the middle-not the seams-because it had seen over 50 years of hard, cold weather use. It would be worth way over a thousand maybe more, dollars today. In original condition, real US made army clothes are like finding gold coins in a sea of post '82 pennies.
US WW2 war manufacturing benefited from a agreement allowing any US manufacturer to make what was needed, no matter which company designed it. It was genius-like our uniforms-(maybe Germany's clothes and arms were better made,( with wool?-I never wore them), but we never faltered in quantity and that supercharged our manufacturing economy. We ought never return to a tariff act as in the 30's, which was suicidal but we deserve some special treatment . . .
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So Trump was so moved by the plight of Wisconsin dairy farmers that he suddenly discovered his outrage over Canadian dairy encroachments (ah, those evil Canadians, eh?). Does this mean he will soon bomb Canadian dairy farms, or will he only send "an armada" towards Canada (btw, think he ever considered the fate of the original Armada when he used the phrase)?
The Democrats should finally take advantage of his 3-second attention span, and simply require that members flash a shiny object in front of the President whenever he starts to speak.
The Democrats should finally take advantage of his 3-second attention span, and simply require that members flash a shiny object in front of the President whenever he starts to speak.
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Remember the old saw: If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, what is an empty desk a sign of?
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Yup! Never any work or papers on the desk.
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From the US we get some oranges from California offseason and watch a few movies from Hollywood. On the trade front, there's really not a lot you can sell us. All our home technology comes out of Asia and our cars from Japan or Europe. No more trade deals? I think Americans will be the biggest losers and you will bear the costs of any barriers and tariffs. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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On the other hand I'm not exactly sure what WE get from Australia aside from a slew of excellent actors pretending to be Americans. I hear Australia doesn't even have a domestic car industry anymore.
Yet another off-script tirade, and this time against, in every respect, a historically close neighbor and international friend. Can our democracy sustain the utter lack of wisdom, diplomacy, and moral compass manifested daily, hourly, by this man in the Oval Office? Where is our GOP congress to balance Trump's inability to govern on absolutely every front? Where is his Cabinet that should be building rather than destroying? It's been three months of angst for so many Americans, from health care, to immigration, from Russia to North Korea. And now Canada? We are drowning in a sea of confusion, instability, and, I believe, corruption. Mr. Trump, this commenter, and probably thousands of others, would right now rather be living in that very nation you just insulted.
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Thank you Kathy Lollock. Yes, Canada looks good and stable. No unread, uneducated, non learner of his country's Constitution, terrible, unstable mentally, and corrupt 45. IMPEACH 45 and get rid of his bunch.
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I'm sure many of of us would be pleased and honoured to extend our hospitality to you. We were always good friends and neighbours.
PLEASE get rid of this destroyer of good will.
PLEASE get rid of this destroyer of good will.
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This is pure Robert Lighthouse, whose life has been devoted to lobbying for protection of the U.S. steel industry. Even the steel industry thinks this over the top....
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Trump should sey up severe economic sanction against china! USA have to be No.1 militarily, politically, and economically!
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Some perspective.
Nobody with half a brain cell believes that what Trump says will actually translate into action, from the wall to prosecuting Hillary to starting a trade war with our allies. The travel ban was harmless because it could never happen, Trump certainly knew it, but ordering it fired up his base. He is also surely aware that while Wisconsin put him over the top in November, that will never happen again. So he gives a tip of his hat to Wisconsin. So what? The Canadians surely aren't losing any sleep. As much as anyone, they know the guy is prone to buffoonery.
It's Trump being Trump. Get used to it. But, in the meantime, also recognize that he's actually done better than expected on foreign policy You want to whine about using force when a despot uses chemical weapons? Wanna wring hands over the mother of all bombs that killed no civilians? Figure out a way that China's recent statement about war clouds wasn't more a warning to North Korea than Trump? Go ahead. He's a wacky guy who shouldn't be in the office he holds, but still. The stock market is up and foreign powers, so far, are acting more intelligently than NYT and other Trump critics.
Nobody with half a brain cell believes that what Trump says will actually translate into action, from the wall to prosecuting Hillary to starting a trade war with our allies. The travel ban was harmless because it could never happen, Trump certainly knew it, but ordering it fired up his base. He is also surely aware that while Wisconsin put him over the top in November, that will never happen again. So he gives a tip of his hat to Wisconsin. So what? The Canadians surely aren't losing any sleep. As much as anyone, they know the guy is prone to buffoonery.
It's Trump being Trump. Get used to it. But, in the meantime, also recognize that he's actually done better than expected on foreign policy You want to whine about using force when a despot uses chemical weapons? Wanna wring hands over the mother of all bombs that killed no civilians? Figure out a way that China's recent statement about war clouds wasn't more a warning to North Korea than Trump? Go ahead. He's a wacky guy who shouldn't be in the office he holds, but still. The stock market is up and foreign powers, so far, are acting more intelligently than NYT and other Trump critics.
Sorry, but people with any sense of honour and decency should NEVER get used to this awful man and his family.
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I think, A. West, you ought to consider moving to the East or West Coasts to get some perspective!
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Trump is just embarrassed that he lost his spine when President Xi Jinping was visiting. This is a pattern. He does not face up to people in person, but when he gets his twitter distance he becomes a bully.
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I'm sorry Canada. JPlease remember, most of us didn't vote for him and even more of us don't support him now.
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Steve, We Canadians understand your plight, but how in the world did you get into such a pickle in the first place? How?????
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Not to worry, 5 minutes from now he`ll have forgotten what he said and will be banging on about something entirely unrelated. He's got the attention span of a clam.
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Yes, do you think he might now start venting about Bolivia?
Not at all surprised to see level-headed and kind Canadians chiming in here to correct the record. Thank you for staying with us as we live with this demented old uncle who got hold of the steering wheel.
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So, did one of the ignorant clowns on "Fox & Friends" mumble something about Canada at some point? That seems to be the primary source of Trump's "information" these days.
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A couple of interesting references that should give us all pause, "He is manically focused.... (Stephen Bannon about Trump)" and "We are groping here...(Wilbur Ross, Sec of Commerce). Irony abounds with these clowns.
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Trump railed against Canadian lumber and dairy, that Nafta was therefore a disaster and had to be renegotiated.
Would someone please inform the Trump administration that neither lumber or dairy are included in the Nafta agreement...so we're all a little confused up here about what Trump is talking about...the problems of one have nothing to do with the others, which is why they were not included in Nafta.
And in case Trump doesn't already know I sure hope someone tells him that international trade agreements are very complicated. Who would have known?
Would someone please inform the Trump administration that neither lumber or dairy are included in the Nafta agreement...so we're all a little confused up here about what Trump is talking about...the problems of one have nothing to do with the others, which is why they were not included in Nafta.
And in case Trump doesn't already know I sure hope someone tells him that international trade agreements are very complicated. Who would have known?
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Please bear in mind the guy didn't have a clue where his armada was heading for, until it posted a photo of itself sailing on its way to play with Aussie pals. In as far as Aussies are still US pals, after Dumb Deal slamming the phone down.
Until Fox breaks news Nafta doesn't include lumber nor butter, cheese, yogurt, there's no chance in the world Dumb Deal will wise up and back down - after blaming Bill Clinton and Obama for a bad deal. After all, Dumb Deal can't blame Reagan or Bush, as they were Republicans.
Until Fox breaks news Nafta doesn't include lumber nor butter, cheese, yogurt, there's no chance in the world Dumb Deal will wise up and back down - after blaming Bill Clinton and Obama for a bad deal. After all, Dumb Deal can't blame Reagan or Bush, as they were Republicans.
He thinks everything is as simple as ordering his sons and daughter around. Having to deal with other adults is new for him. He has no idea how it is done.
We're confused too.
We can't even keep track of our aircraft carriers anymore.
We can't even keep track of our aircraft carriers anymore.
Trump calls Paul Ryan "Ron".
Trump doesn't know where his carrier group is heading.
Trump says we sent 59 cruise missiles into Iraq.
Trump thinks the current leader of North Korea was in charge in 1994.
Trump is a serial liar, and probably easily misled, but there is more going on than that. Apparently he cannot get simple facts straight. Is he demented?
Trump doesn't know where his carrier group is heading.
Trump says we sent 59 cruise missiles into Iraq.
Trump thinks the current leader of North Korea was in charge in 1994.
Trump is a serial liar, and probably easily misled, but there is more going on than that. Apparently he cannot get simple facts straight. Is he demented?
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Yes.
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Yes, but he did accurately report he and the Chinese President ate scrumptious chocolate cake! Chocolate cake diplomacy is his game and l'Entente gateau au chocolat will become his legacy.
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Rather than calling for a useless investigation into whether steel imports are harming national security, the investigation that should be demanded, and the one that truly matters to US national security, is the degree of involvement of the Trump campaign into Russian interference in the election. And into Trump's financial ties and obligations to Putin and the Russian oligarchs. A special prosecutor with subpoena powers and a blue ribbon non-partisan investigation should be commenced immediately.Disclosure of his tax returns should be forced immediately If Trump has "nothing to hide", then why is he hiding? What did the "precedent" know, and when did he know it. We're neck deep in the Big Muddy, and the Big Fool says to push on!
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Fortunately, Justin Trudeau is an easy going Prime Minister, and the dairy farmers here take it from whence it came; according to the cbc there have been dozens of meetings on this subject between knowledgeable participants on both sides. Bannon is goading his puppet in the wrong direction, he's not going to get a rise out of Canada on this. We're much more worried about, say, North Korea.
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He isn't seeking a rise out of Canada; this was strictly for domestic consumption.
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Let me guess - he's going to sign an executive order to fix everything!
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If Trump deports the illegals and the dairy industry is deprived of workers and collapses, I wonder which country he is going to blame. The illegals are undocumented, meaning they have no documents, no passport, no country. His mind will short circuit at that point.
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“This is not an area where we can afford to be dependent on other countries,” Mr. Trump said. “We have a product where we actually need foreign countries to be nice to us in order to fight for our people. And that’s not going to happen any longer, believe me.”
So, maybe I'm just a dumb Canadian, but I am trying really, really hard, and I'm trying to be nice, too, believe me! But I just can't seem to get the drift of what the man is saying.... What "product"? Steel? Military force? Milk? And what is it "that's not going to to happen any longer"? The fighting? The being nice? The dumping worldwide?
Who knew trade could be so complicated!
So, maybe I'm just a dumb Canadian, but I am trying really, really hard, and I'm trying to be nice, too, believe me! But I just can't seem to get the drift of what the man is saying.... What "product"? Steel? Military force? Milk? And what is it "that's not going to to happen any longer"? The fighting? The being nice? The dumping worldwide?
Who knew trade could be so complicated!
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No. I haven't a clue what he was trying to say either. He really is incoherent.
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Trapped in the Mirror by Dr. Elan Golomb describes these word salads
as a manipulation tool used by narcissists. Palin does the same thing.
In this case that may be true but it appears there is a lot of other stuff involved.
He probably has all the attention deficit syndromes, perhaps early dementia.
That is just one reason he keeps his kids close.
He is the quintessential of the Peter Principle.
He is an educated oaf; a stupid, uncultured, clumsy, in all regards person.
as a manipulation tool used by narcissists. Palin does the same thing.
In this case that may be true but it appears there is a lot of other stuff involved.
He probably has all the attention deficit syndromes, perhaps early dementia.
That is just one reason he keeps his kids close.
He is the quintessential of the Peter Principle.
He is an educated oaf; a stupid, uncultured, clumsy, in all regards person.
Please don't listen to that wretch. Canada must feel like the decent citizen who has to put up with a drunken, deranged, crack-addled neighbor in the apartment below.
The view from Canada is that our milk and cheese prices are way too high. So, a little pressure from down south would be good to lower prices. Our farmers are living a little high off the hog with their "supply" management which is really "price" management and about maintaining dairy farmers' wealth at the expense of millions of consumers. Sweet deal if you can get it.
A little pressure from the US can only help Canadian consumers by persuading our dairy farmers to lower prices. FYI, we're already buying a lot of milk in US border states as many cross the border to buy cheaper milk, cheese and gas.
But make no mistake, all bets are off if Trump goes after Canada. We'll circle the wagons. We will fight back, and hard. FYI, trade is roughly equal and the US actually has a dairy surplus. Canada is the top export market for 35 states and Paul Ryan's district does $1 billion a year with Canada. So, we can make it sting even we are the little guy in this trade relationship. It's not rocket science so we will punish those swing export states Trump won in 2016 (Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio) and show them how great Trump really is for them. And we'll punish them hard.
It's not Canada's fault America's economy and social system is about beggar your neighbour (or is that neighbor?). Love you guys but you're not going to beggar this neighbour.
A little pressure from the US can only help Canadian consumers by persuading our dairy farmers to lower prices. FYI, we're already buying a lot of milk in US border states as many cross the border to buy cheaper milk, cheese and gas.
But make no mistake, all bets are off if Trump goes after Canada. We'll circle the wagons. We will fight back, and hard. FYI, trade is roughly equal and the US actually has a dairy surplus. Canada is the top export market for 35 states and Paul Ryan's district does $1 billion a year with Canada. So, we can make it sting even we are the little guy in this trade relationship. It's not rocket science so we will punish those swing export states Trump won in 2016 (Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio) and show them how great Trump really is for them. And we'll punish them hard.
It's not Canada's fault America's economy and social system is about beggar your neighbour (or is that neighbor?). Love you guys but you're not going to beggar this neighbour.
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Canadian milk is antibiotic and hormone free, which can't be guaranteed in the US. Many people in Canada have little interest in buying American dairy products.
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But we have more little interest in supporting our dairy farmers with outrageous prices. Time for Cdn dairy farmers to realize they've taken too much. Don't fill us full of mathematical explanations. Instead, start cutting costs and give us a reason to support you, besides stopping Trump.
Dairy farmers ought to earn a decent living. Would you rather agribusiness took over?
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Yes, President Trump will say this today to grab the headlines but soon will say Canada is US' best trade partner.
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Because up is down and black is white.
Until it isn't.
And 'round we go, don'cha know.
Until it isn't.
And 'round we go, don'cha know.
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"Trump rails..."?
Again? And another article beginning with the word "Trump"?
That's JUST what he wants, you Do know that? And Spicer probably gets a bonus each time a new headline appears screaming "Trump..."!
Again? And another article beginning with the word "Trump"?
That's JUST what he wants, you Do know that? And Spicer probably gets a bonus each time a new headline appears screaming "Trump..."!
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His chest-beating foolishness is appreciated by some.
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Note to our friends in Canada:
Please send a huge Alberta Clipper to cool off the hot air that comes out of this president's mouth.
Please send a huge Alberta Clipper to cool off the hot air that comes out of this president's mouth.
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Trump is the second most ignorant person earth. Tied for first is every one of those sorry pigs who voted for him.
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Wharton cringes with each idiotic rant from their graduate
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Trump only spent 2 years at U of PA. He started at Fordham, then transferred. And he never got an MBA from Wharton, just a BA.
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Trump threatens to morph from a cranky old man (I'm about as old as he is) into a simple crank.
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"He’s manically focused........"
Good God! What have we done to ourselves.
Captain Queeg at the helm!
Good God! What have we done to ourselves.
Captain Queeg at the helm!
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Interestingly enough Trump is correct on Nafta it promised to bring jobs to America and had the opposite effect. “In 1993, during the debate over NAFTA, President Bill Clinton promised us that the trade agreement with Mexico and Canada would “create a million jobs in the first five years.”
Instead of creating a million American jobs, the Economic Policy Institute found, NAFTA destroyed more than 850,000 American jobs. In fact, every state in the nation has lost jobs as a result of NAFTA.” As Sanders reports in his recent book. Could it be Donald has been reading Bernie?
Instead of creating a million American jobs, the Economic Policy Institute found, NAFTA destroyed more than 850,000 American jobs. In fact, every state in the nation has lost jobs as a result of NAFTA.” As Sanders reports in his recent book. Could it be Donald has been reading Bernie?
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Does that also mean no MacDonalds,Coca Cola, Starbucks etc. for the rest of the world.Would be nice.
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No, just a happy little Vegemite.
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I am one-quarter Canadian and just returned from a few days in the True North Strong and Free. I noticed that Canadians can get 3 percent milk, apparently rare in the US. Is this what is driving the president off script to try to bully Canadians? And during the Stanley Cup playoffs, when they are paying even less attention to him than usual? While I was there, I noticed no unusual milk-based activity but, then, one cannot trust the citizens of a country that does such a good job celebrating diversity and welcoming people
who are in need of a safe place to raise their children. Who knows what plots the egg producers are...hatching? And why do we hear nothing from the American poutine industry? Canada is celebrating its 150th birthday. Yes, they formed a political system just after our Civil war, with an aim of avoiding some of the problematic elements in our constitution. More recently, they established a system of universal health care. We should have followed their example.
who are in need of a safe place to raise their children. Who knows what plots the egg producers are...hatching? And why do we hear nothing from the American poutine industry? Canada is celebrating its 150th birthday. Yes, they formed a political system just after our Civil war, with an aim of avoiding some of the problematic elements in our constitution. More recently, they established a system of universal health care. We should have followed their example.
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Wait a week or two, he'll change his mind.
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Did the Wisconsin Ag. Group also discuss with trump how the ag waste has entered the great lakes and caused algae blooms and huge dead spots in all five lakes? These glorified farmers probably forgot to mention how much damage they do to the water supply and are conveniently never fined or forced to upgrade their processing systems. These people have to be the biggest bunch of whiners other than the trump group.
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He's just so lost. It's painful to see so much incompetence occupying the highest office of the US!
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What is really painful is to see we can no longer trust our fellow Americans to put the competent, knowledgeable, experienced states(wo)man in office. No, those uneducated White men and their Stepford wives put Trump over the finish line. Misogyny is leading to this country's downfall.
What a juvenile. Healthy adults have the maturity to air their grievances directly to the offender. Trump has the overwhelming need to be so liked that he'll ingratiate himself in someone's presence then speak ill of them as soon as they leave the room and cameras are on. My puppy has better behavior than him.
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We have a seriously impaired president. Unfortunately, those around him and the Republican congress do not seem to grasp the most basic economic principles. All the wrong moves are starting to add up. We will see accelerating unemployment and falling GDP. Trade tariffs are a sure fire way to reduce exports and raise the costs of goods. Health care, one of the largest employers in the country, will see a sharp reduction in employment if the Republicans get their way with the ACA. How about a nuclear war to distract us from the total incompetence and the Russian-Trump connection?
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Trump isn't going to do a thing about trade. Just like he's not going to 'drain the swamp,' build the wall, get rid of Obamacare, or whatever other promises he made.
It should be painfully clear by now that Trump is simply 'playing' president, and making himself immensely richer in the process.
But his supporters will of course eat up Trump's words, sure that he's 'doing something.'
I shudder to think about the mess of incompetence, mediocrity and corruption this country will be left with in 3.5 years. But America voted these third-rate grifters in. Says a lot about the state of the country.
It should be painfully clear by now that Trump is simply 'playing' president, and making himself immensely richer in the process.
But his supporters will of course eat up Trump's words, sure that he's 'doing something.'
I shudder to think about the mess of incompetence, mediocrity and corruption this country will be left with in 3.5 years. But America voted these third-rate grifters in. Says a lot about the state of the country.
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I'm glad that we have a president who is genuinely interested in getting the best trade arrangements for American farmers as well as others in the traditional industries that built the country.
Trump haters can regurgitate the health care issue and all the others as much as they want, but this reader sees the good in what he has done with regard to trade. If others prefer to poo-poo everything the president says and does, let them be as stupid as they appear these days.
By comparison, Obama was a total failure for our economy.
Trump haters can regurgitate the health care issue and all the others as much as they want, but this reader sees the good in what he has done with regard to trade. If others prefer to poo-poo everything the president says and does, let them be as stupid as they appear these days.
By comparison, Obama was a total failure for our economy.
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"By comparison, Obama was a total failure for our economy". What? Stock markets were up. Unemployment was way down. IRA's were paying out in full. What are you reading or listening to?
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Heiner ** "Obama was a total failure for the economy" What were you born 8 years ago? Why don't you go back and see what the Bush admin. left behind. A country falling of a cliff. And your calling people stupid.... Trump supporters ... living is an alternate universe, where up is down and round pegs fit in to square holes.
Orange, NJ
Orange, NJ
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How do you feel about the fact that U.S. dairy subsidies caused harm to the Canadian dairy farmers, and that's what resulted in the Canadian measures to protect their own?
It's fascinating to me to see how Trump thinks these "photo ops" are evidence of him being at work. They are the opposite of work.
NYT, is it true or false that some of the "coal miners" in his recent "photo op" were actually coal company executives dressed up as coal miners?
I want to see a seating chart (or standing chart) of everyone in these ridiculous photos to know the extent of the farce.
NYT, is it true or false that some of the "coal miners" in his recent "photo op" were actually coal company executives dressed up as coal miners?
I want to see a seating chart (or standing chart) of everyone in these ridiculous photos to know the extent of the farce.
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I read all the negative comments about what trump is now doing. Remember voters you had a chance to stop this guy by not electing him. Instead you put him in office so now you have to live with the consequences. This country will not have a friend left very soon. Way to go voters !!!!
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In point of fact, he lost the popular vote by 3,000,000 ballots and was elected by a tiny minority of disaffected white rural voters from a disproportionately small number of districts because the Electoral College disregards the popular vote, aka the will of the people. That's the only reason this chump is in office.
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And that most people didn't vote.
I wonder if trump thinks milk comes from Wisconsin and not cows?
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At 100,000 tons the price of the steel in an Nimitz class aircraft carrier represents a little more than 1% of its 4.5 billion USD price. Steel might have been a strategic commodity in 1960, but the electronics on board exceeds the cost of the steel and is of much higher strategic value.
And now a cheese war with Canada. Why not blame Californian dairy farmers? Their milk production dwarfs Wisconsin's and has for a long time. The world is more complicated than slogans on license plates Donny.
And now a cheese war with Canada. Why not blame Californian dairy farmers? Their milk production dwarfs Wisconsin's and has for a long time. The world is more complicated than slogans on license plates Donny.
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In other words, $45,000,000 Is a pittance. Pity us, pity you.
Go and take a look at the massive CA dairy farms, They average 1200 cows per herd and use antibiotics as if part of the regualr diet. I grew up on a dairy farm in Wisconsin and switched to soy decades ago, knowing full well the problem of a lax enforcement mechanism for testing antibiotics and insecticides. I find nauseating, the consumption of mammalian bodily fluids of other species on a regular basis.
"At 100,000 tons the price of the steel in an Nimitz class aircraft carrier represents a little more than 1% of its 4.5 billion USD price."
Yeh, but if we keep losing aircraft carriers, replacing them is going to require a lot of steel. (Where's the Vinson? I thought it was in the Pacific. Maybe the Indian Ocean? Have we looked in the South Atlantic?)
Yeh, but if we keep losing aircraft carriers, replacing them is going to require a lot of steel. (Where's the Vinson? I thought it was in the Pacific. Maybe the Indian Ocean? Have we looked in the South Atlantic?)
This is nothing more than a shameless appeal to Trump's nationalist base and a plug for a state he won by a narrow margin. Not only are his comments uninformed, but they will only further alienate another close ally...
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It seems to be almost guaranteed that when Trump goes "off message" he's lying or just plain uninformed about pesky "details" so he can appeal to his base. Thank goodness there are informed commenters here who clear up misconceptions more often than the article being commented on does. By now, we should be used to this bluster as a form of intimidation that makes him look tough but when you complain that it's a "disgrace" what Canadian farmers do (as though they should just roll over and "play nice") you just make us look like bullied wallflowers.
I can hear the blame-Obama lies now when Donald Trump starts a trade war that crushes our economy, including the livelihoods of the people Trump thought he was defending.
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Mark, I would make just one change to your comment:
for "thought he was defending", substitute
"pretended he was defending".
for "thought he was defending", substitute
"pretended he was defending".
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Thank you so much for not having a video - transcripts will do just fine from now on. btw: the photo is perfect.
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In the world championship cheese competition this year, if Wisconsin was its own country, they may have won as best cheese making country. The best cheese makers in the world live in WI. But because WI as a state for the first time since Reagan voted for a republican we have to vilify the state. They went from harmless cheese heads to dumb blank morons in one November day. Let real NYT and all the crazed lefty media, Your losing touch with reality. There is nothing wrong with protecting WI cheese makers.
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I think you forgot about Scott Walker, who predated Trump's election by a few years.
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I have not read anybody vilifying WI and there is nothing wrong with protecting WI cheese makers. However buffoonery won't get very far in complicated trade negotiations.
75 WI farmers complained about something they don't like about Canada's dairy business. They feel injured by it in some unexplained way. So because of this the idiot in chief insults an major US ally and launches a trade war. There is much more involved with US-Canada trade than 75 dairy farmers in WI. How many more people will be hurt by the economic fallout from all the other trade wars the idiot wants to start? When will Congress grow some spine and put a stop to the destruction of the US economy and the rest of the world along with it? I am sick of the mealy grovelings I get in answer when I write to my congressmen (I am displaced by Hurricane Katrina).
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Bannon is inadvertently right: Trump is manically focused. And that should be concerning to everyone.
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Well, I wondered how long it would take for Trump to criticize Canada about something. Canada was one of the few democracies our incumbent authoritarian hadn't yet attacked, so it was only a matter of time.
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Now that Trump has been in the job now for awhile, his bluster and executive orders have become predictable, tiresome and quite laughable and other than make him look like a fool, they have yet to come even close to accomplishing anything . His administration is overflowing with chaos and stupidity!
In point of fact, for the people he claims to be trying to help, with his fake sabre rattling, as countries get their back up probably making for tougher than necessary trade negotiations, he is probably doing more than good. In this case, he makes a general comment on a talking point the subject of which he clearly knows absolutely nothing about other than what someone probably mentioned to him 5 minutes before his little diatribe. Almost immediately, the experts whom actually know something about the issues under discussion contradicted everything he stated to the point I was waiting for someone to say, "the man is a complete idiot who doesn't have the faintest idea of what he is talking about".
It would seem cooler heads prevailed.
In point of fact, for the people he claims to be trying to help, with his fake sabre rattling, as countries get their back up probably making for tougher than necessary trade negotiations, he is probably doing more than good. In this case, he makes a general comment on a talking point the subject of which he clearly knows absolutely nothing about other than what someone probably mentioned to him 5 minutes before his little diatribe. Almost immediately, the experts whom actually know something about the issues under discussion contradicted everything he stated to the point I was waiting for someone to say, "the man is a complete idiot who doesn't have the faintest idea of what he is talking about".
It would seem cooler heads prevailed.
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How on earth did the USA become the biggest economy in the world (let alone maintain that position) if everyone was out to take advantage if it?
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To answer your question: the USA became the biggest economy in the world by having a wealth of natural resources. So many have taken advantage of these resources that they are now greatly diminished.
This is the cause of our national pain.
This is the cause of our national pain.
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There is no plan, no strategy. Just Trump with ADD reacting minute by minute to whatever he hears the minute before. Then five minutes later he contradicts himself. When he isn't contradicting himself, then he contradicts his Cabinet members or his staff.
No one is in control here.
No one is in control here.
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Pocketbook activism: quite a few of us are avoiding grown in US produce and avoiding US based vacations. Meaningless, of course. But mindfully honest about how we feell about this Admin.
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Well, it just basically confirms that the people he claims to want to help are the ones that will be most affected negatively by his words and actions. For starters, relatively lower waged workers in a negatively affected American tourism industry.
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Just another installment of "Policy Based on the Last Conversion I Had" starring President Trump.
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Canada, I'm sorry.
His mother didn't raise him with any manners.
1355 days to go.
His mother didn't raise him with any manners.
1355 days to go.
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Frankly, are you sure you are going to be able to hang in there for that long?
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Is there much choice?....Have any suggestions???
Why doesn't President Trump tell the Wisconsin dairy farmers that the Feds will turn the oversupply of milk into dry milk & cheese for the poor? Oh wait, that would be a disincentive for them to get hired & go to work & besides they're already living on king crab & porterhouse steak. Forget it.
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It's a badge of honor to be berated by Trump.
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Facts? They just get in they way of a good story. Someone tell the president that he inherited the lowest unemployment rate of the last decade. In fact, we are effectively at full employment. Employers will need to raise their pay rates to keep their employees. New housing starts are increasing so there is more money out there. Washington is like in a bubble of unreality. If they don't rein in the investment banks we are going to end up where we were in 2008. If that happens with all of our international flubs we are going to be in a world of economic hurt. We buoy up the world economy. How has the immigrant flap been affecting our visitor industry - hotels, airlines, service businesses? Knock it off, time to attend to the business of America.
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My grandparents came to America as undocumented immigrants. Can I be deported to Canada over that? Please, Mr. Trudeau!
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Trump is cracking up. The pressure is building. He is lashing out. He wants to win and he can't. He doesn't know how to win in the political arena. He doesn't know what to win or what to fight for because of his incompetence. So now he invents a new battle. He invents a crisis that does not exist. We must fight the Canadians.
He can't bury the Mexicans. His glorious wall is still just a slogan and it will stay that way. He now turns his fury against our closest trading partner and friend Canada.
The Canadians did it. The Canadians are out to get us. We must get back at the Canadians.
I would like to apologize to our dear friends to the North. Americans are not your enemy. Our not my President Trump is sick. He is mentally unbalanced. He is rapidly sinking into the darkness.
If Trump thinks that imported steel is a matter of national security then he really has cracked up. This is lunacy and I will waste no time attempting to argue against it. Crazy is just crazy and this steel issue is crazy.
Now the real damage begins. Trump has moved beyond signing executive orders and is now swinging the wrecking ball. Trump must be impeached on grounds of mental instability.
He can't bury the Mexicans. His glorious wall is still just a slogan and it will stay that way. He now turns his fury against our closest trading partner and friend Canada.
The Canadians did it. The Canadians are out to get us. We must get back at the Canadians.
I would like to apologize to our dear friends to the North. Americans are not your enemy. Our not my President Trump is sick. He is mentally unbalanced. He is rapidly sinking into the darkness.
If Trump thinks that imported steel is a matter of national security then he really has cracked up. This is lunacy and I will waste no time attempting to argue against it. Crazy is just crazy and this steel issue is crazy.
Now the real damage begins. Trump has moved beyond signing executive orders and is now swinging the wrecking ball. Trump must be impeached on grounds of mental instability.
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I feel your pain and frustration.
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I expect in his next twitter rant, Trump will try to intimidate the Canadians with another steely resolve photo op from Pence and a visit from the USS Carl Vinson
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Yep, the armada is heading for Alaska as we speak.
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Is Trump determined to make enemies of every country in the world, including Canada? Next he'll be whining because French wine competes with his son's vineyard.
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I was this administration could figure out what it wants be when it grows up.
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Impeached.
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" I was in Wisconsin the other day. What they've (Canada) done to our farm workers is a disgrace. It's a disgrace.
To our friends in Canada........please consider the source. He speaks for himself!
Well Mr. President....I was in Washington the other day (Tax March Day). What you've done to our country is a disgrace. It's a shameful, pathetic national disgrace.
To our friends in Canada........please consider the source. He speaks for himself!
Well Mr. President....I was in Washington the other day (Tax March Day). What you've done to our country is a disgrace. It's a shameful, pathetic national disgrace.
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This from the guy who bought Chinese steel and aluminum to the tune of billions to build his hotels because it saved him a bundle of cash.
btw: Everyone in that photo looks like a scolded child.
btw: Everyone in that photo looks like a scolded child.
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They ALL look incredibly uncomfortable as in "Let me out of here."
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There is truly no one safe from his attacks except the members of his family. He is a one man wrecking crew.
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Typical Trump - ignorant to the last! Your action is not based on any factual analysis and will likely result in lost jobs. My what a truly ignorant POTUS.
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Our current President is desperately trying to create an international incident ... any international incident ... to rally people behind him and distract voters from the incompetence of his administration. One doesn't have to listen for long to realize that's hurting America.
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He's mad at Canada because of a trade policy encouraging people to buy Canadian instead of from their trading partner to the south.
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And just where are Donald's and Ivanka's merchandise made? Big Clue: Not in the U.S.A!
How long must we endure this crazy hypocrisy?!
How long must we endure this crazy hypocrisy?!
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"Under qualified" isn't the term for this embarrassing flailing idiot... the term "Unprepared" is closer... "Effortlessly Uncaring" hits it right on the nose...
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Our trade deals are in fact unfair to the U.S.
Did you know that under the WTO rules China--poised to become the largest economy in the world in the upcoming decade--is still classified as a developing country and legally given special rights, privileges and the ability to shelter its domestic industries with protective tariffs.
We are watching them literally steal our intellectual property, shelter capital intensive domestic businesses, and then compete against us in advanced manufacturing--lowering the relative value of U.S. economic output.
When we enter into negotiations with them, all we want is for them to respect basic norms such as IP and the rule of law. For these monumental concessions, they extract from us open markets without significant tariffs.
Yes, free trade intertwines the globe and probably makes it more peaceful, secure and wealthy. But we are still getting taken advantage of. Another example of the U.S. shouldering a disproportionate burden to maintain the international order that benefits all nations.
Did you know that under the WTO rules China--poised to become the largest economy in the world in the upcoming decade--is still classified as a developing country and legally given special rights, privileges and the ability to shelter its domestic industries with protective tariffs.
We are watching them literally steal our intellectual property, shelter capital intensive domestic businesses, and then compete against us in advanced manufacturing--lowering the relative value of U.S. economic output.
When we enter into negotiations with them, all we want is for them to respect basic norms such as IP and the rule of law. For these monumental concessions, they extract from us open markets without significant tariffs.
Yes, free trade intertwines the globe and probably makes it more peaceful, secure and wealthy. But we are still getting taken advantage of. Another example of the U.S. shouldering a disproportionate burden to maintain the international order that benefits all nations.
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So Trump is taking revenge on Canada because he can't tackle China?
Sounds impotent to me.
Sounds impotent to me.
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Well it s con men and crooks like trump who sold you down the river and he s not worried about you my friend.
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The only people that were taken advantage of were American workers who lost their jobs as a result of American corporations whom decided, because of cheaper labor and increased profits, moved their operations offshore. Did someone twist their arm and did you forget the Carrier incident in which Trump "came to the rescue" by handing out millions of taxpayer dollars in order to save "some" of the jobs that otherwise Carrier was unilaterally moving to Mexico?
Corporations set up these trade deals to serve their interests and their shareholders, not the employees. Look inward for your answer, not the countries who you think got the upper hand in these circumstances.
Corporations set up these trade deals to serve their interests and their shareholders, not the employees. Look inward for your answer, not the countries who you think got the upper hand in these circumstances.
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So President Trump spent a little time in Wisconsin and the last person who had his ear was a dairy farmer on the short end. Never mind that our congenial neighbor to the north is one our largest trading partners and that we run what amounts to a modest trade deficit with them that has been shrinking in recent years (https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c1220.html#questions).
Instead, let's sour the relationship over (spilled) milk because the POTUS is incapable of seeing the big picture and can only focus on whatever was said by whoever last had his attention.
Instead, let's sour the relationship over (spilled) milk because the POTUS is incapable of seeing the big picture and can only focus on whatever was said by whoever last had his attention.
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In terms of dairy products, The US is currently enjoying a $400million per annum Surplus with Canada. The state of Wisconsin by itself has a trade surplus with Canada for all goods and services which is about $300million. Perhaps Governor Walker should point this out. Using a "blame Canada" agenda for political gain has no place in the White House.
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It seems that Trump has overlooked the massive dumping of US government subsidized corn into Mexico that forced so many small farmers off their land that entire villages disappeared, forcing a northward, cross-border migration of a population desperate to feed their families. Does he want to continue that tradition or just build his wall and ban Canadian goods?
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This topic would be a great one for an in-depth report. So many people with a knee-jerk reaction against immigration, including illegal immigration, from Mexico, have no idea how our US economy has affected the Mexican economy. Corn is a prime example, along with our love-hate relationship with drugs.
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Be careful what you wish for. Canada is the NUMBER ONE buyer of American exports.
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Come on, Jefflz, what we do to the Mexicans doesn't count. We get to do what we want, but our neighbors don't. Sounds fair to me. :-)
Let us take a look at Venezuela. The Trump administration accepted contributions for the "inauguration" in excess of 1 million from two Venezuelans - an individual and an oil company. An for that "contribution" to the Trump inaugural, the Venezuelan gentleman was given a meeting with the NSA and a senior Trump advisor.
Pay-for-Play exact;y what Trump had accused you know who of.
Be very wary of anything Trump says. It apparently has to do more with who gave him money than nationalism versus globalization.
Trump has always been a me first kind of guy and his plan to make money for himself while President is going according to plan. That is the only "policy" for Trump.
Pay-for-Play exact;y what Trump had accused you know who of.
Be very wary of anything Trump says. It apparently has to do more with who gave him money than nationalism versus globalization.
Trump has always been a me first kind of guy and his plan to make money for himself while President is going according to plan. That is the only "policy" for Trump.
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Elizabeth,
You are absolutely correct about his "policy".
Live for all the world to see and hear.
In the first republican debate he said he was going to show us how he could make
himself wealthier as president.
He told us all.
You are absolutely correct about his "policy".
Live for all the world to see and hear.
In the first republican debate he said he was going to show us how he could make
himself wealthier as president.
He told us all.
Oh Canada. I am so sorry. Read horrified. I live in La Crosse, WI. If there is any way I can become a Canadian, please let me know
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Wisconsin helped create this monster.
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Not many people in Canada are very concerned with that individual's rhetorical tirades.
Not many people at all...
Not many people at all...
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When I wake up each morning I reach out for my iPad to see whether Trump, in a fit or stupor the night before, decided to bomb or denigrate a country or a perceived enemy. The photo in the article says it all: a disbelieving audience thinking "why did I chose to be here?" First it's a border tax now steel imports. Never mind that the majority of his buildings are awash in foreign products. This guy is nothing but a fraud and a charlatan, a master of lies. Oh Higher Powers, please help the American people and the rest of the planet from this madman.
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I reach for my iPad hoping to read that his head has exploded.
Canada is likely the only ally we have left. Go ahead Mr. President. Go after the Canadians.
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Not anymore!
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Give the guy a break, he's just being fair.
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Anybody watched Argo lately?
Ever hear of Gander, Newfoundland on 9/11?
Ever hear of Gander, Newfoundland on 9/11?
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"a sweeping investigation into whether steel imports are harming America’s national security."?
What, does he think they're bugging the I-beams? Ingots with tiny cameras? Those interstate median light poles are really Kaiten subs?
What a bunch of malarkey. He's unhinged.
What, does he think they're bugging the I-beams? Ingots with tiny cameras? Those interstate median light poles are really Kaiten subs?
What a bunch of malarkey. He's unhinged.
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Dear President Trump -- we've smiled at your misadventures to date and demurely tried to stay clear of your domestic embarrassments. (Hey, we had to deal with Rob Ford once. We know how these things go.) But if you come at us with your lies and bluster attacking our industries unfairly you will quickly see the hard-checking hockey-playing side of Canadians rather than the polite stereotypes we have displayed to date.
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Steel? The delicious irony - I hope he issues an executive order that every building made with Chinese steel must be torn down -starting with his own.
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After all the browbeating and threats by Trump of Ford, GM, Carrier, and every other Company in the United States, to keep their factories here and build more of them in the United States as well and not overseas, when will products bearing the Trump name start to be manufactured here as well and by a workforce that earns a living wage with benefits too. We all know the workforce making their products overseas are being exploited, earning pennies an hour, and you know they don't have benefits. Isn't it time for Trump to be held accountable? And why don't we hear anyone complaining about this double standard? Why are we letting this guy get away with this hypocrisy? Enough of this. His excuse in the past has been there weren't factories or manufacturing centers here that could make his products. Well, how about using some of the billions you and your daughter, sons, and grand son have made President Trump, using our very own tax dodges and loopholes to build them. Enough of letting this guy get away with what he does. Enough of his lies and gross exaggerations and not being called out for that boorish, despicable behavior.
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If Obama was pushing these policies of renegotiating NAFTA and getting rid of the TPP as Trump did,the NYT would say how wonderful it is and how those evil Republicans want to kill the working class. It amazing what happens when the hats are reversed. It happens on both sides but the American people always take it in the shorts. We are losing manufacturing left and right and if ever have a war with China or Korea,we will probably get wiped out because we manufacture. very little anymore
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Personal responsibility, remember ?
Stop asking for handouts from the government.
Stop asking for handouts from the government.
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Spot on. All these hypocrites who rail at every so-called "liberal" (meaning anyone who doesnt listen to Rush Limbaugh) for being commie socialist Pinkos & not adhering to the capitalist "earn your keep" American work ethic are sure quick to ask our Daddy Trump for cushy govt-funded & sheltered jobs becuase they cant compete in today's market. Ot saying we shouldnt use our resources to help americans, we should, but dont call yourself Mr. TeaParty Free Market when you want a handout just like so many others.
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You're young yet. You don't remember that it was U.S. manufacturers
that took the jobs overseas. And it was u.s. shareholders who delighted
in the cost savings. What goes around . . . doesn't always make it
all the way around !
that took the jobs overseas. And it was u.s. shareholders who delighted
in the cost savings. What goes around . . . doesn't always make it
all the way around !
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Actually, Canadian diary farmers are subsidized to a ridiculous extent. Milk in Canada is far more expensive than it would be at a fair market price.
But guess where else diary farmers are unfairly subsidized, along with their non-diary brethren?
Hint: find Canada on a map and move your finger south.
But guess where else diary farmers are unfairly subsidized, along with their non-diary brethren?
Hint: find Canada on a map and move your finger south.
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And we don't allow our subsidised farmers to use growth hormone on dairy cows to increase production.
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Milk costs more in Canada precisely because it is not subsidized, unlike American milk. Canadian dairy farmers must cover production costs.
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Just so you know, a US gallon of milk in Orlando costs US $3.99; in Toronto (Canada) 4 Litres (1 US gallon) costs CDN $4.27. Allowing for an exchange rate of 30%, which is a little low, the US milk actually costs more when costed in CDN $, that is $5.19. I don't believe wages are 30% higher in Orlando than in Toronto so it would seem our milk is cheaper. Even if our currency was at par, the difference in price is only $.28, which to me is not "far more expensive" at all. To be sure, even if it is a little more expensive in Canada in general, I'm happy to pay the price as we have developed a pretty nice community and a standard of living up here that compares favourably with anywhere. And DD, you are right; the US does subsidize American agriculture in general and the dairy industry in particular, quite generously.
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"... military, which depends on steel for tanks, ships, and planes". For military aircraft, an aspiring trade protectionist might need might need to search with extraordinary care through most of the existing inventory to find a piece of steel much larger than a paper clip.
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How does Canada provide for single payer healthcare and still outbid our dairy industry and we are still not competitive even without paying for single payer healthcare?
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Canadian taxpayers do not subsidize dairy farmers, unlike American taxpayers.
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Canadian dairy farmers do not outbid American dairy farmers. We have a supply management system, which means that Canadian farmers have production quotas to match the size of the Canadian market. The Canadian farmers are provided a guaranteed price for their milk, which is payed for by the consumer (our dairy products are priced higher than what a typical American would pay in the States). This allows the dairy farmers to have financial stability. When we are short of dairy products, we buy from the American marketplace. Recent numbers show that Canada imports 5 times the amount of dairy products from the US than we sell to America. How is that unfair to American farmers. America has a problem with over production, which should not be blamed on Canada.
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This "president" is nuttier than nuts!!
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Wilbur Ross, "groping" is a verb you ought to steer wide of, given the company you keep.
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If you can't trust a pathological liar....
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He's a waffler. He said he was going to get rid of H1-B visas but that's not happened (although even Science Magazine writes that they just depress wages http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2015/05/economists-h-1b-visas-suppress..., he also said the Keystone pipline must be built with American steel and now it won't, he produces his terrible chokers in China to make one more buck. Maybe he wants to pressure the Canadians to pay for his wall?
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Trump is an idiot but the Trans-Pacific Partnership was a hot mess like all of the previous Fast Tracked "Midnight Judge" So-Called Free Trade Deals.
1-Negotiated in secret with no Labor, Consumer or Environmental Groups input or oversight- but plenty of Lobbyists from every big industry. Even Senators and Representatives were limited in seeing drafts and could not even take notes.
2-Stealth Public Comment period. Not a word said about it until after the window had closed. Do you remember a notice in the NYT or any national media of when you could contact your government about the TPP or any of the previous trade schemes. I wonder why?
3-No Congressional Hearings.
4-Straight up or down vote with no provision for amendment.
5-Simple majority vote for the so-cleed Congressional-Excutive Agreement which is a thinly disguised way of skirting the Treaty provisions of our Constitution.
Most Americans are not opposed to the concept of "Free Trade", but they are opposed to these insider written schemes that undermine US Sovereignty and that of lesser governments as all bow down to the mighty multinational corporation- the God of our age. The best thing Trump has done was spike the TPP and hopefully TTIP (same scheme for the US and EU) and TISA (Trade in Services Agreement).
Write Free Trade Deals in the open, with public oversight, Congressional hearings, informed public comment and the 2/3rds Majority required of Treaties. Let the sun shine on Free Trade Deals.
1-Negotiated in secret with no Labor, Consumer or Environmental Groups input or oversight- but plenty of Lobbyists from every big industry. Even Senators and Representatives were limited in seeing drafts and could not even take notes.
2-Stealth Public Comment period. Not a word said about it until after the window had closed. Do you remember a notice in the NYT or any national media of when you could contact your government about the TPP or any of the previous trade schemes. I wonder why?
3-No Congressional Hearings.
4-Straight up or down vote with no provision for amendment.
5-Simple majority vote for the so-cleed Congressional-Excutive Agreement which is a thinly disguised way of skirting the Treaty provisions of our Constitution.
Most Americans are not opposed to the concept of "Free Trade", but they are opposed to these insider written schemes that undermine US Sovereignty and that of lesser governments as all bow down to the mighty multinational corporation- the God of our age. The best thing Trump has done was spike the TPP and hopefully TTIP (same scheme for the US and EU) and TISA (Trade in Services Agreement).
Write Free Trade Deals in the open, with public oversight, Congressional hearings, informed public comment and the 2/3rds Majority required of Treaties. Let the sun shine on Free Trade Deals.
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I agree with you about the secrecy of these trade deals. The biggest thing I don't like about them are the clauses that permit any foreign company to sue my government if any regulation they made in the future would infringe on the profits they previously thought they would get.
I didn't want my government to sign the TPP either for this reason.
I didn't want my government to sign the TPP either for this reason.
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Yes, and also suing us because we have environmental or other standards we need adhered to.
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I would add buggy whips to the list of products we need to protect from reaching our shores. In addition, we need to punish Yugoslavia for causing massive unemployment in the US! We will become great again!
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That DT would rail against & insult our valued northern neighbor over 'milk' would be laughable if it wasn't so embarrassingly ridiculous.
Really?! Now Canada is the enemy? No one even knows what our simple-minded president is talking about (except the Wisconsin 75 dairy farmers I presume).
So scary.
Really?! Now Canada is the enemy? No one even knows what our simple-minded president is talking about (except the Wisconsin 75 dairy farmers I presume).
So scary.
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Dear Canadian neighbors and friends,
Please do not confuse the intentions of the American people with fool we have managed to elect as a president.
Please do not confuse the intentions of the American people with fool we have managed to elect as a president.
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His presidency will pass but it may take decades to fix the damage!
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Why shouldn't they? A majority of the vote went to Trump, which would mean a majority of the voters in America agreed with what he had to offer.
Canada needs to fall into line fast. Otherwise a wall will be built, and Canada will pay for it.
It's best not to mistake American resolve.
It's best not to mistake American resolve.
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Build a wall...I will contribute $1 CAD. And never, ever underestimate a Canadian.
Maybe Canada should cut energy exports to the US. Let's see how Boston does without hydro electric power from Quebec. Don't mistake Canadian resolve either.
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I am hoping you are being satirical
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Donald Trump is capitalism's full blown gift to America and the world. Profit for myself and my family and scant care for the rest of the world. It is the American way and he is what we have nurtured.
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So the Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is going to investigate if steel imports from China are harming America’s national security, but according to Bloomberg news Wilbur Ross’s former investment company is making a big bet on China’s steel industry to the tune of $17.5 BILLION DOLLARS. What’s wrong with this picture?
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-08/commerce-secretar...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-08/commerce-secretar...
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I'm hoping there's an upside to this. We're not really known for our ostentatious self-aggrandizing displays of patriotism. We have a number of trumpers in this Country but calling us "disgusting" may put a dent in their enthusiasm for him as they rally round our flag. I mention it because a well-known trumper in the neighborhood happened to be at the corner store today when I went for milk(!)...for once, he had nothing good to say about trump. Dark clouds, silver linings, hope springs eternal.
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Isn't Canada our largest source of imported energy?
Don't we trade more with Canada than any other country?
Aren't they the nicest people on earth (off the ice rink)?
Don't we solve hundreds of these small problems every year through our Embassies? (And lots of much bigger issues?)
Sometimes my best friend orders a more expensive restaurant dish than I and we split the check 50-50. I've never poked him in the eye over it.
Don't we trade more with Canada than any other country?
Aren't they the nicest people on earth (off the ice rink)?
Don't we solve hundreds of these small problems every year through our Embassies? (And lots of much bigger issues?)
Sometimes my best friend orders a more expensive restaurant dish than I and we split the check 50-50. I've never poked him in the eye over it.
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Let's get this straight, 75 dairy farmers lose a milk buyer and the President of the most powerful country on earth goes on a rant. Meanwhile, a health plan that will leave 24 million Americans without insurance has his endorsement. This is a president with priorities.
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Same guy is willing to poison the air and drinking water of millions to save 60,000 mining jobs.
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Mexico doesn't want to pay for a wall, but up here we might just be willing to pay for one. I can't speak for all of us but I would put a few bucks towards one.
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If you build a wall it MUST be made with US steel!
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WinManCan,
Pls, do not hold us to task cuz of this fool rants and ignorance.
You all know we are much better than this clown and his acolytes.
We made a mistake electing him. But, just gave us until next year, Dems will win back Congress. He will be confined to WH with no powers till 2020.
Pls, do not hold us to task cuz of this fool rants and ignorance.
You all know we are much better than this clown and his acolytes.
We made a mistake electing him. But, just gave us until next year, Dems will win back Congress. He will be confined to WH with no powers till 2020.
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Oh please no. I'd hate to have to swim Lake Superior to find haven in your beautiful, decent, well-mannered and well-run country.
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The the man is a buffoon and a swindler. He knows nothing about trade. He knows about con games. He knows nothing about fairness, only about shafting his partners. Trade deals are a give and take. This oaf only takes. There will be nothing left by the time he is gone. What next, withdrawal from GATT? Presumably he knows that all these trade deals were negotiated by the US from a position of enormous strength. What am I saying? To presume he knows anything other than the lies he makes up is madness.
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That's why he won here in Indiana by 20 points.
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Trump neglects to mention that dairy production was excluded from NAFTA. But hey, just details.
Also, ALL dairy in Canada is, by law, free of added hormones and antibiotics (yes, buying 'organic milk' offers little benefit over 'regular' milk in Canada). If Americans want access to Canadian markets, will they really re-tool their entire production?
Supply-side management--a system that sets production quotas so farmers can hit expected consumption forecasts--does not involve direct-to-farm government subsidies, which exists in the US and Europe.
Also, ALL dairy in Canada is, by law, free of added hormones and antibiotics (yes, buying 'organic milk' offers little benefit over 'regular' milk in Canada). If Americans want access to Canadian markets, will they really re-tool their entire production?
Supply-side management--a system that sets production quotas so farmers can hit expected consumption forecasts--does not involve direct-to-farm government subsidies, which exists in the US and Europe.
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You may be overthinking it. Milk and related dairy products are National Security issues in the White House. If Canada's unfairness persists, it may awake one morning surprised to find a Carrier Group visiting it's cows.
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If Trump orders a Carrier group attack on Canada that means Venezuelans better watch out.
Right! Instead of condemning Canada, we should be emulating both its agricultural and health care policies.
However, you are wrong about US policy concerning antibiotic in the dairy industry. While on conventional farms antibiotics can be used to treat bovine illness under veterinary supervision, the milk from those treated cows must be discarded until their systems are free of antibiotic residues. Whereas on organic farms animals that get sick either end up at Burger King or in a compost pile out back.
That is right. On an organic dairy farms in the US if a cow is treated with antibiotics for a host of life threatening illnesses she must be culled from the herd. Meaning, she dies.
I don't think Canada' prohibitions are quite so strict because they are down here everyday buying cows out of conventional US herds and taking them home to milk. With or without a treatment history.
However, you are wrong about US policy concerning antibiotic in the dairy industry. While on conventional farms antibiotics can be used to treat bovine illness under veterinary supervision, the milk from those treated cows must be discarded until their systems are free of antibiotic residues. Whereas on organic farms animals that get sick either end up at Burger King or in a compost pile out back.
That is right. On an organic dairy farms in the US if a cow is treated with antibiotics for a host of life threatening illnesses she must be culled from the herd. Meaning, she dies.
I don't think Canada' prohibitions are quite so strict because they are down here everyday buying cows out of conventional US herds and taking them home to milk. With or without a treatment history.
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Trump is so craven, so callous that he crafts a message for his continually betrayed base contingent upon whether he is addressing consumers or producers.
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I can't bear it anymore. I have turned off the TV and escaped into 19th century British literature.
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I recommend "Middlemarch." Austen is a wonderful escape.
But anything by Dickens might be too close to home. For example, The New Yorker's Jonathan Blitzer today discussed the case of an immigrant who appeared in a Bronx courtroom only to request he be "stepped in" jail on Rikers Island as a way to protect himself from ICE agents waiting outside the courtroom.
http://www.newyorker.com/?post_type=newsletter&p=3340074&mbid=nl...
But anything by Dickens might be too close to home. For example, The New Yorker's Jonathan Blitzer today discussed the case of an immigrant who appeared in a Bronx courtroom only to request he be "stepped in" jail on Rikers Island as a way to protect himself from ICE agents waiting outside the courtroom.
http://www.newyorker.com/?post_type=newsletter&p=3340074&mbid=nl...
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Yup. Me too. Dickens, here I come!
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Tis a truth universally acknowledged, the US president is a fool.
Parroting sound bites. And about as intelligent and qualified as any parrot.
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I'd much rather have a parrot in the White House.
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You are insulting parrots.
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A Canada wall! At this rate, the Canadians will be happy to pay. Seriously.
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Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas? Chinese steel. Trump international Hotel in Chicago? Chinese steel. He's all talk. He's not going to do anything.
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I am not a Canadian nor a dairy farmer; I am a registered Republican who happens to track the Canadian dairy industry in my job as an international business and public affairs consultant. President Trump's false description of the current friction over dairy trade, either from ignorance or design, merits correction. Canadian dairy farmers, unlike their American counterparts, do not receive billions of dollars in public subsidies each year, meaning the Canadians sell their milk at production cost. Canada charges a customs duty on American milk to redress the subsidy. To avoid the tariff American processors have developed a product called ultra-filtered milk that concentrates proteins, enabling Americans to export an undrinkable product for use in pizza cheese and other food products. Ultra-filtered milk is not sold in the US, only exported to Canada to evade legal tariffs. As this undercuts Canadian dairy farmers their government reclassified ultra-filtered milk to make sure it pays the applicable tariff. Killing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which might have expanded U.S. dairy exports to Canada, saddles President Trump with responsibility for the loss of market by Wisconsin farmers. Undoubtedly hard on Wisconsin farmers but the blames lies with President Trump and Paul Ryan for assuming other countries will not protect their interests. The U.S. is on track to lose a billion-dollar dairy export market in Mexico. Many more farmers will lose markets thanks to bluster.
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Presentation of facts--what a refreshing novelty!
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This is why I read the comments ... for important info not in the story. Thanks, usa999!
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usa 999 : No one knew that fiddling around with a complex web of subsidies, tariffs and international trade agreements could be so complicated!
Nobody in the Trump troupe of court jesters, in any event. If anyone did know, he wasn't telling King Donald; or the King was too busy tweeting nonsense to pay attention.
Nobody in the Trump troupe of court jesters, in any event. If anyone did know, he wasn't telling King Donald; or the King was too busy tweeting nonsense to pay attention.
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Next week we'll here just how complicated trade deals are. Because, who knew, right?
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Agree. Perhaps he will announce an investigation by his people to be complete in 90 days. Then he can go to Margo-Lardo, or whatever it is, an golf.
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What Trump doesn't seem to realize is that certain elements – like dairy – were negotiated into NAFTA as part of a give-and-take. Canada took a hit on things like softwood lumber, and if Trump wants to open NAFTA up again he better be prepared to watch healthy American industries that enjoy their own NAFTA protections suffer as a result.
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Why does anyone - including mainstream press - think that anything this POTUS says or does "signals" anything other than lunacy? As he likes to say, there is not there there. He has no policy, no substance, no strategy and most of all no core. There is nothing integrated about his behavior. Please stop writing articles and covering him as if he is normal. He just isn't.
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I live in Michigan, grew up in Detroit. We love Canadians. This is crazy. The American auto industry depends on a close relationship with Canada. Does this man know anything?
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I live in Saginaw and I have seen what has happened to Saginaw,Flint,Detroit and yes Lansing,when Nafta was passed by Bill Clinton and the 1993 Dem congress. He isn't going after Canada but he is emphasizing the fact that NAFTA is taken us down. We used to have 6 GM steering gear plants here and Central Foundary and Malleble Iron just to name a few. Now they are extinct and Dow just laid off 800 workers in Midland because of the merger with Dupont and are moving those jobs overseas. Property values in the midwest are dropping like a brick. WAKE UP?>
I'm sorry your community is hurting, but Clinton, the Democrats, nor NAFTA stipulated that plants had to close. In fact, none of NAFTA addresses how factories should operate. It's the CEOs who decide to close factories and move jobs elsewhere, and yet they still get to keep their jobs and become even richer. Why aren't former employees ever angry at the people who are directly responsible for making those business decisions?
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No. He knows nothing. And is proud of it. Like most of the Deplorables who voted for him & continue to support him.
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Should have stayed with the PPT. It took care of much of that.
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That's the TPP. It would have opened up billions of people for American milk.
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Trump is the classic blow-hard - all bluster and yapping. In the end the parties that will end up being harmed will be our allies and trade partners while China will continue on their current course. Does anyone really think that Trump is going to do anything that will threaten the millions of dollars that he and his family are making with business deals in China?
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Perhaps he needs a wall north of the border as well.
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Just a big wall around him would solve all problems.
Canada. Please believe me, the majority of Americans did not vote for this uninformed, racist, xenophobic transactional president! We still believe in diversity, plurality, justice and tolerance. We are doing ALL we can to rid ourselves of this cancer on our body politic. We will cure ourselves; as allies please make sure you do what friends do, tell us when we have dirt on our face.
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Trump is a lecherous fraud. Nothing that he says has any meaning. He is like a nasty barking maniac dog. We need to be truthful in our charecterization of this documented fraud and liar.
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He needs to look in the mirror. He buts Chinese steel for his own projects.....ampng other things
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The most alarming thing about this article is that the NYT is now using uncritically the Alt-Right slur "globalist" to describe people who understand that the United States is not alone in the world, and that it has a tradition of what used to be called "liberal internationalism". I urge other readers to write to the Public Editor about the paper's adoption of Stephen Bannon's language.
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Investigating Steel Imports, you say?
Let's start with all the Russian steel that is being used to build the Keystone Pipeline.
Didn't Mr. Trump promise it was all going to be made with American Steel?
Let's start with all the Russian steel that is being used to build the Keystone Pipeline.
Didn't Mr. Trump promise it was all going to be made with American Steel?
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Does this mean Trump will no longer continue to use Chinese steel in his building projects as he has done in the past? Well, I would not bet on that since moral consistency is not his strong suit. Anyway, rules are for other people, not The Donald.
But if Trump wants to get serious about the trade imbalance he should skip the theatrics and get into conference with those who wield real power; the Walton family, and the Koch brothers, and about twenty other families who own more than have the nation's wealth.
The nation's mega-chains, having choked out of business countless smaller stores and now stock their shelves with an endless line of products labeled Made in China. Just try to find an umbrella or alarm clock that is Made in America. The problem is not China.
The problem resides with the American CEOs who have decided in advance what Americans will buy by shutting American products out of the competition. The CEOs have made that decision, not the consumers.
But if Trump wants to get serious about the trade imbalance he should skip the theatrics and get into conference with those who wield real power; the Walton family, and the Koch brothers, and about twenty other families who own more than have the nation's wealth.
The nation's mega-chains, having choked out of business countless smaller stores and now stock their shelves with an endless line of products labeled Made in China. Just try to find an umbrella or alarm clock that is Made in America. The problem is not China.
The problem resides with the American CEOs who have decided in advance what Americans will buy by shutting American products out of the competition. The CEOs have made that decision, not the consumers.
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great, we can blame 75 dairy farmers in Wisconsin for the next recession started by their trade war. I'll be buying only imported Canadian dairy from now on.
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The leaders of the world find themselves in a situation where it must be hard to take our President seriously, but nonetheless have to because he may or may not send armadas to their waters or the cavalry to their boarders. That Trump is a bore is tiresome enough, that he is so incredibly ignorant is scary.
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What is it that Canada has done to 'our' dairy farmers and/or dairy farm workers? I buy my share of milk, butter, cheese, and related dairy products. i have not noticed any appreciable amount of Canadian 'competition.' Maybe its all in prepackaged, pre-processed foods. I don't know. But I also have heard not a peep about this 'problem' over all these many years. Is he just making this stuff up?
We have a debased presidency.
We have a debased presidency.
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The disgrace is DJT himself.
Enough said.
Enough said.
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“We have a product where we actually need foreign countries to be nice to us in order to fight for our people. And that’s not going to happen any longer, believe me.”
I'm trying to analyze this. Does he mean foreign countries are no longer going to be nice to us? Or that we're not going to need foreign countries to be nice to us (which suggests we're not going to worry if we're being nice to them)? Whatever the answer, it's hardly comforting.
Second, this "national security" argument is specious. What product doesn't the military use? The depletion of any American industry could theoretically prevent the military from adequately supplying itself.
Third, note that Bannon speaks again. That particular bigot has been let out of the doghouse. (The other ones in this administration were never in it.) I was skeptical that Trump would actually get rid of him.
I'm trying to analyze this. Does he mean foreign countries are no longer going to be nice to us? Or that we're not going to need foreign countries to be nice to us (which suggests we're not going to worry if we're being nice to them)? Whatever the answer, it's hardly comforting.
Second, this "national security" argument is specious. What product doesn't the military use? The depletion of any American industry could theoretically prevent the military from adequately supplying itself.
Third, note that Bannon speaks again. That particular bigot has been let out of the doghouse. (The other ones in this administration were never in it.) I was skeptical that Trump would actually get rid of him.
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Trudeau should recall the Canadian ambassador and shut down all all border crossings. Well, just for a few days until our infant calms down. One has to instill in these little monsters a sense of consequences for their actions.
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America? What happened? Are you off your meds?
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They cost too much and we ain't covered
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Everyone in the country, and many many people around the world, are suffering from whiplash: the psychological kind, not the physical type. Trump is psychologically, mentally unfit to be president, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows it. What has to happen before he's removed from office? Does he have to put in the code to launch a nuclear strike against whoever he feels deserves it at that moment, and then one minute later reverse course and say: "Wait, I never said I wanted to do that. I take it back." We're all in a world of hurt.
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Questions for Czar Donald:
What country does the steel you and the royal family using come from?
You urge us all to "hire American".
Where do the workers at Mar-0-Loco come from?
You urge the nation to make stuff in America.
Where are your ties made?
Where are your suits made?
Where are your home furnishings made?
Hypocrite, pathological liar, delusional, corrupt.
Lock him up!!
What country does the steel you and the royal family using come from?
You urge us all to "hire American".
Where do the workers at Mar-0-Loco come from?
You urge the nation to make stuff in America.
Where are your ties made?
Where are your suits made?
Where are your home furnishings made?
Hypocrite, pathological liar, delusional, corrupt.
Lock him up!!
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Even Trump's appointed Commerce Secretary admits, "We are groping here to see whether the facts warrant a comprehensive solution."
You grope when you want to have more control and authority over something than you actually have. Donald ought to know this.
You grope when you want to have more control and authority over something than you actually have. Donald ought to know this.
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Lock him up! For his and our safety.
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My wife and me have spent many vacations and $$ in the US over more than 30 years. We have recently retired and had planned to alternate our winters between California and Florida. We have now decided that we will never spend another cent in the US as long as this current "So-called" president is still in office. I hope other Canadian snowbirds follow suit.
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Mexico's plenty sunny in winter with great food, bargain prices and welcoming people. I'd forget the U.S. too!
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But California is on your side.
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Hamish, my husband and I are both retiring in the coming year and had long planned an extensive road trip throughout Canada and the US to kick it off. There is no way we are going to spend any money south of the border while this person is "president." Even before his nonsense about Canada, we had decided to spend our money in Canada, Europe or Mexico instead because of his hateful anti-migrant, racist, sexist rhetoric - and actions. It's saddening to see this happen to our neighbours.
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Dairy aside, Canada and America enjoy healthy trade that is relatively equal and is also the greatest value of trade between any two nations, and by a significant margin. Mr Trump's narrow-minded and uneducated comments are dangerous to workers and businesses on both sides of the border. I do not expect much from him but I did expect more from his aides. Regardless, Trump aside, we still value America and the shared prosperity our agreements bring to both countries.
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Hang on, Canada! This man and his appointees want to destroy what preceded them just because it did! Hopefully, we will survive this period of Ignorance and vengeance!
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You are a perfect example of a Canadian! Superior over alles!
We apologize for the buffoon currently ensconced in the White House. He in no way reflects the sentiments of the American people on nearly any issue, and certainly not concerning Canada. One of the greatest travesties to come out of a Republican administration was the response to 9/11 in the closing of our mutual border. That lightly guarded three thousand mile long border was an example to the world of two nations living in harmony. Where we once passed through easily, we now have to produce a passport or equivalent.
Trump's aides cannot prevent him from saying idiotic things because he is such a poor manager that they are directionless and at each other's throats. When you hire billionaires, you hire people who have no talent for cooperation and teamwork, just egotistical posturing. All any of them cares about is the opportunity to line their own pockets at our expense. Oligarchs, the bunch of them. They would be (probably are) right at home in Russia.
Trump's aides cannot prevent him from saying idiotic things because he is such a poor manager that they are directionless and at each other's throats. When you hire billionaires, you hire people who have no talent for cooperation and teamwork, just egotistical posturing. All any of them cares about is the opportunity to line their own pockets at our expense. Oligarchs, the bunch of them. They would be (probably are) right at home in Russia.
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The 75 dairy farmers in Wisconsin were told that their oversupply of milk was no longer needed by a Canadian buyer.
Milk production per cow has skyrocketed in the last decade through efficiencies.
Today's milk oversupply comes amid a declining 10-year demand for dairy products.
While empathetic about the plight of the US dairy farmers, the Dairy Processors Association of Canada said they are not to blame.
"We don't feel good about U.S. farms going out of business. But you know what? It's not our responsibility. It's your own responsibility, as a country, to manage your production," said Isabelle Bouchard, director of government relations for the trade group Dairy Farmers of Canada, in an official press release.
"We are a nation of 36 million people, less than the population of California. How do you expect us to (consume) your over-supply of milk when we already produce milk for our market? By contrast, in Canada, supply management — literally matching supply with demand — avoids overproduction and reduces the impact of devastating market fluctuations such as those the US is currently experiencing."
http://www.thefencepost.com/news/minnesota-and-wisconsin-dairy-farmers-l...
Sounds like the American milk farmers and milk industry need to heed the laws of basic supply and demand instead of blaming all their problems on Canada.
In TrumpWorld, it's always important to blame your personal problems on others, especially foreigners.
Milk production per cow has skyrocketed in the last decade through efficiencies.
Today's milk oversupply comes amid a declining 10-year demand for dairy products.
While empathetic about the plight of the US dairy farmers, the Dairy Processors Association of Canada said they are not to blame.
"We don't feel good about U.S. farms going out of business. But you know what? It's not our responsibility. It's your own responsibility, as a country, to manage your production," said Isabelle Bouchard, director of government relations for the trade group Dairy Farmers of Canada, in an official press release.
"We are a nation of 36 million people, less than the population of California. How do you expect us to (consume) your over-supply of milk when we already produce milk for our market? By contrast, in Canada, supply management — literally matching supply with demand — avoids overproduction and reduces the impact of devastating market fluctuations such as those the US is currently experiencing."
http://www.thefencepost.com/news/minnesota-and-wisconsin-dairy-farmers-l...
Sounds like the American milk farmers and milk industry need to heed the laws of basic supply and demand instead of blaming all their problems on Canada.
In TrumpWorld, it's always important to blame your personal problems on others, especially foreigners.
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@Socrates,
The strategy of blaming others for personal problems is not a creation of TrumpWorld, but that of Democrats:
1) Clinton's primaries loss in 2008 (misogyny, sexism)
2) Clinton's electoral loss in 2016 (sexism, Obama, Russia, Comey, Wikileaks)
3) Benghazi (YouTube video)
4) Email server (Colin Powell)
5) Garland nomination (too many Republicans in Congress)
6) Secret ACA deals in 2009 (too many Republicans in Congress)
7) Travel ban (too many racists in the USA)
8) Illegal immigration (great California climate)
9) ISIS (George W Bush, or who knew JV teams could be so grand?)
10) Anemic GDP growth since 2009 (George W Bush)
11) Mortgage meltdown (Poor people not allowed to borrow more for homes they can't afford anyway)
12) Gun violence (2nd Amendment)
The strategy of blaming others for personal problems is not a creation of TrumpWorld, but that of Democrats:
1) Clinton's primaries loss in 2008 (misogyny, sexism)
2) Clinton's electoral loss in 2016 (sexism, Obama, Russia, Comey, Wikileaks)
3) Benghazi (YouTube video)
4) Email server (Colin Powell)
5) Garland nomination (too many Republicans in Congress)
6) Secret ACA deals in 2009 (too many Republicans in Congress)
7) Travel ban (too many racists in the USA)
8) Illegal immigration (great California climate)
9) ISIS (George W Bush, or who knew JV teams could be so grand?)
10) Anemic GDP growth since 2009 (George W Bush)
11) Mortgage meltdown (Poor people not allowed to borrow more for homes they can't afford anyway)
12) Gun violence (2nd Amendment)
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One reason for the increase of milk production is the use of hormones to inhumanely force the poor cow to produce more milk than she would normally produce.
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This came completely out of the blue, timed with Trump's rise.
Dairy farms should be blaming Trump, not Canada.
Dairy farms should be blaming Trump, not Canada.
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Just look at the photo. Everyone except Trump looks like they'd rather be somewhere else. Sad! But oh so telling!
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Maybe he would rather be somewhere else too. I can't imagine that he is having fun most of the time he manages to spend in the WH. Sure it's fun to order up those rockets and bombs, but given his intellectual and emotional incapacity, this must be wearing on him.
I am hoping he will just quit, and save you all a lot of trouble. Then of course, you will be faced with Pence/Ryan.
I am hoping he will just quit, and save you all a lot of trouble. Then of course, you will be faced with Pence/Ryan.
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Don't be so sure. I'm sure trump would rather be golfing in Florida.
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The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming! It's distraction time again.
Oh, Canada!
Oh, Canada!
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I am very glad that as a dual citizen, My family and I will be moving to Canada in just about 8 week. Time to leave for friendly pastures.
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I just hope that you are able to find a job there, ma'am. I love Canada, too, but the reality is that "foreigner" (even those with Canadian citizenship) often struggle to find work that matches their qualifications there.
Pack a parka.
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Lucky!
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Is he off his meds? Or should he be on some? He's after everybody it seems. Are there any adults in his administration who can reach him, can teach him some adult behavior? He's like a kid with power. Way too much like Kim Jong Un.
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The answers to your questions are all in the Affirmative.
Except "Reaching" a Bully is waste of everyone's time involved.
Except "Reaching" a Bully is waste of everyone's time involved.
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Attributing the quality of policy to anything that emanates from the Trump throne room is futile. This is the Tourette syndrome administration, only predictable in its incoherence. Identifying the human props in the photo op is the only way to discern the topic of the day.
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Is there one ally that he hasn't alienated?
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Canada is an enemy now??? We'd better stop our geese from flying south without visas in case he fires cruise missiles in response. 59 warheads could devastate our entire economy! Canada's farms are owned by enormous American agricultural conglomerations, for the most part. Seeds, fertilisers, machinery, etc are mostly American too. The Big Three car manufacturers are here because of reduced health care costs as a result of socialised medicine. The list is endless on how the US profits from Canadian agriculture and industry. Trump has turned our neighbour into a tin pot dictatorship, I'm sorry to say.
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It was only a matter of time before President Cartman started singing "Blame Canada."
We may not have a friend left on the globe if we survive this moron.
We may not have a friend left on the globe if we survive this moron.
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Please Canada...hold firm. We need to look up to you as an example of a civilized country that knows how to govern itself. Apparently, there is no example to follow here in the USA.
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It's depressing - everyday - just depressing listening to him shoot his mouth off.
Obviously he has gotten away with shooting his mouth off all of his life -- it worked enough to get him in the white house.
He's a bully.
I worry more about the mindset of his supporters and what that bodes for our country's future. I worry about the hate he preaches.
We're on a slippery slope.
Obviously he has gotten away with shooting his mouth off all of his life -- it worked enough to get him in the white house.
He's a bully.
I worry more about the mindset of his supporters and what that bodes for our country's future. I worry about the hate he preaches.
We're on a slippery slope.
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We have been on this slippery slope for decades. Reagan put us there.
On the plus side, Bernie is on a week-long tour to help bring the country together by stressing what we have in common, instead of what separates us. What a concept! Democrats are fighting back at the polls, AND Fox has lost two of its most important haters: Ailes and O'Reilly. Down in flames and women did the job of exposing them, as it were.
Those are things to celebrate!
On the plus side, Bernie is on a week-long tour to help bring the country together by stressing what we have in common, instead of what separates us. What a concept! Democrats are fighting back at the polls, AND Fox has lost two of its most important haters: Ailes and O'Reilly. Down in flames and women did the job of exposing them, as it were.
Those are things to celebrate!
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Our allies also worry about the same thing. They know Trump is temporary, but what will come next? Will the presidency swing back to a rational actor like Obama or just keep going downhill? At what point should they decide to take over their own defense in order to prevent us from using our military capacity located in their countries to launch bizarre and pointless military strikes? It feels like we are digging our own grave.
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President Trump wants Americans to "Buy American, Hire American", but that policy does not apply to his hiring and procuring processes for Mar a Lago. Every year Mar a Lago hires foreign workers for the Trump mansion/resort, bringing them in to work for 6 to 8 months for lower pay and no benefits. The President makes no attempt to hire locally. He makes no attempt to buy supplies that are made in the USA. A number of local people with resort and hospitality industry experience have applied for jobs, only to be told Trump is not hiring. Of course, American workers would have to be paid competitively with other American workers, and they'd have various worker protections, unlike foreign workers. Oh, and his red hats are made in China, the same country that gave him Trump trademarks after he backed off the currency manipulator claims. Mr. Trump should be the first American to Buy American,Hire American.
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Agree. And how about Ivanka? Everything manufactured under her brand is "Made in China".
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Trump to Bannon: "we're not getting traction on trade. It's my issue, and I need a victory. Can't touch China, Russia, Saudis. Who's on our attack list?"
Bannon: "There's Scandinavia . . .
Trump (interrupting) "huh? Where's Sandy nav . . ."
Bannon: " Never mind, Don. There's Ireland, maybe Belgium, Latvia, San Marino . . . "
Trump: "nah, we need a nation I can find on a map. We've milked Mexico to the max . . . Hey, Canada! Yea! That Trousseau is a dork. Fake. A snowflake. Yes, Canada."
Bannon: "what's our attack line? They're too nice, losers? Wait! How about milk imports? Canadian farmers are trying to ruin our dairy farms, and they've used NAFTA . . .
Trump: "Stuff it, Steve. That's all I need to know. I got milk!"
(Laughter)
Bannon: "There's Scandinavia . . .
Trump (interrupting) "huh? Where's Sandy nav . . ."
Bannon: " Never mind, Don. There's Ireland, maybe Belgium, Latvia, San Marino . . . "
Trump: "nah, we need a nation I can find on a map. We've milked Mexico to the max . . . Hey, Canada! Yea! That Trousseau is a dork. Fake. A snowflake. Yes, Canada."
Bannon: "what's our attack line? They're too nice, losers? Wait! How about milk imports? Canadian farmers are trying to ruin our dairy farms, and they've used NAFTA . . .
Trump: "Stuff it, Steve. That's all I need to know. I got milk!"
(Laughter)
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Oh boy. Canada's Justin Trudeau just got on Trump's doo doo list - over milk.
That nasty Canada. (and in the presence of the Italian prime minister).
I hold my breath when I see Donald Trump at the podium. His speeches are written for about fourth grade (or less) levels, his mouth gets super dry, and he throws his own very inappropriate pats on the backs, sort of. Like how very huuugely bigly excited he is about meeting the Pope. Can't wait! Schmooze Pope talk. With the same podium presence after just finding out about the Paris shooting. Reminding everyone The Donald is meeting the Pope.
My what a lucky man.
Now, on to the steel terrorists, please. More missles, Donald? Aimed at those nasty and unsafe overseas steel places?
Please, weekend come fast so he's off on Air Force 1.
That nasty Canada. (and in the presence of the Italian prime minister).
I hold my breath when I see Donald Trump at the podium. His speeches are written for about fourth grade (or less) levels, his mouth gets super dry, and he throws his own very inappropriate pats on the backs, sort of. Like how very huuugely bigly excited he is about meeting the Pope. Can't wait! Schmooze Pope talk. With the same podium presence after just finding out about the Paris shooting. Reminding everyone The Donald is meeting the Pope.
My what a lucky man.
Now, on to the steel terrorists, please. More missles, Donald? Aimed at those nasty and unsafe overseas steel places?
Please, weekend come fast so he's off on Air Force 1.
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As a children's book author I respectfully ask Trump critics to resist the temptation to equate him with a child. Children are smarter, more inquisitive, more optimistic and wiser than this man ever has been or will be. The kids are alright. Trump is not.
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Can this guy focus on one thing for more than a day, no wonder everyone wants the Russian links investigated when every day he seems to have another deflection. Flip flopping back and forth will not get anything done, how long before his voters start to notice everything he says stagnates.
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-_- Canada had a trade deficit with the United States last year, and when you consider the fact that the trade dispute mechanism for NAFTA might as well not exist as the US just ignores any ruling it doesn't like(soft wood lumber), I'm pretty sure we don't deserve any of this. Anyway, I would rather maintain quality control on my dairy products, thanks.
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Bring it, Trump. Canada is proud to join all the fine countries you've found fit to badmouth as you continue to mess up "big league" in your temporary position.
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Correction: not only temporary, but part time as well.
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None of that spared the Canadians from the president’s anger over how they protect their dairy industry.........."
HOW DARE THEY PROTECT THEIR INDUSTRY !
DO WE GO ABOUT PROTECTING ...
....OH, WE DO ?
WELL, IT STILL ISN'T NICE IF THEY DO IT.
HOW DARE THEY PROTECT THEIR INDUSTRY !
DO WE GO ABOUT PROTECTING ...
....OH, WE DO ?
WELL, IT STILL ISN'T NICE IF THEY DO IT.
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Now it's official. Donald Trump has gone too far.
First he lays into Mexico. Now Canada.
If his plan is to isolate this coutry by turning it into a pariah state, he's well on his way.
Is not the Republican Congress able to see what is happening, and take steps to ameliorate the situation? -- Or, are we now doomed to have enemies to the North and South of us, as well as from within?
America. Are we great yet?
First he lays into Mexico. Now Canada.
If his plan is to isolate this coutry by turning it into a pariah state, he's well on his way.
Is not the Republican Congress able to see what is happening, and take steps to ameliorate the situation? -- Or, are we now doomed to have enemies to the North and South of us, as well as from within?
America. Are we great yet?
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Don't forget Australia, where the US has a lot of naval base interests.
Another example of Trump hypocrisy which adds to an already HUGE, HUGE list of examples of his hypocrisy. He uses Chinese steel in his construction projects. This guy has no scruples and no shame.
How do you know that Trump is lying? When his mouth is open.
How do you know that Trump is lying? When his mouth is open.
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Actually, I think he can lie with his mouth closed, too.
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Canucks are awful tricky -- they will fool you with their smiles,
While stealing all your bizzness from tomatoes to textiles.
Don’t think they are thick witted or accommodating -- no!
They’re plotting our destruction amidst all that blasted snow.
They’ll underbid and undercharge until the USA
Cannot afford a pot to use to -- I really shouldn’t say.
In Montreal they laugh at us; in Ottawa they sneer --
But all they really know is how to drink up Molson beer.
The trade imbalance must be fixed -- there’s no time for delay.
If they must send us snowshoes we should send them Frito Lay!
And if they won’t take quotas that we give them cheerfully,
We’ll beat them with lacrosse sticks, albeit tearfully.