Mound Is a Microcosm of the Disparity Between the Yankees and the Red Sox

Mar 21, 2017 · 17 comments
Mark Ryan (Long Island)
As a Yankee fan I like the White Sox pitcher Quintana. Four seasons with a decent under 4 run ERA and four seasons of 200 plus innings without injury. I would give up a few Yankee prospects plus Headley and/or Gardiner for Quintana. If not Gardiner then Elsberry (of course paying for most of his salary). The Yankees have plenty of youth to fill in at Center and Left field.
kjd (taunton, mass.)
Didi Gregorius and his hurting shoulder will not make any difference in the Yankees situation this coming year. The Yanks are reaping the rewards of a decimated farm system and ridiculous long term contracts given to the likes of ARod, Jacoby, and CC. It will take years for them to recover. A farm system that has been ravaged for many years does not suddenly reap rewards after trading for a few prospects. My feeling is that the Yanks will jump back into free agency in the next year or two when a bumper crop of young stars become available.
Green Monster (Boston)
The Yanks have a questionable rotation. Toronto looks better on paper. But here in Boston, we're gearing up for the Bombers. Best rivalry in sports.
Joseph (Va Beach)
The Red Sox pitching is ridiculously overrated.

Price is nowhere near an ace right now, even when healthy.

Porcello was statistically no better than Tanaka last year and will never maintain that level. He'll regress to his mean, which is a "good not great" starter.

The Yankees options for 4 & 5 are still just as good as the Red Sox 4 & 5 imo. Which leaves us Tanaka vs Sale.

The gut reaction is "Oh, Sale is so much more of an ace. But the fact is he isn't. If you don't believe me go to Fangraphs and compare the two since Tanaka entered the league.

Nearly identical ERA, xFIP, LOB%, BB/9, SO/9, BABIP, WHIP, AVG against etc...

Factor in the superior bullpen and in all reality these pitching staffs are closer than people think.

All this hype is just another version of that "Greatest Team Ever" nonsense from 2011.
JF Clarity IV (<br/>)
The Yanks should sign Fister and Lewis, proven starters who can keep them in the game, and someone like Pagan who can lift the teams' batting average to create lineup synergies and score more runs. Morneau might also be a good choice. Most prospects don't become as good as these players are now.
blackmamba (IL)
Seeing my much beloved Chicago White Sox ace Chris "The Condor" Sale wearing the wrong color of the arrogant Red Sox is painful. Going to see Chris was always worth the price of admission.

The Red Sox nation used to whine about not winning a World Series since 1918. While Chicago once had two teams the White Sox-1917 and the Cubs-1908 who had gone longer without winning a World Series championship. When the Red Sox won in 2004 and the White Sox won in 2005 things were in balance. But no the Red Sox, like the NFL New England Traitors, went on to greedily win two more World Series.

As for the New York Yankees they are clearly the favored favorite team of Lucifer and Judas.
EGD (California)
The New England Traitors? Too funny. Your football bitterness must be due to watching Jay Cutler 'highlights' on YouTube instead of SuperBowl comebacks. In any event, Go Pats and Go Sox - you know, the Red ones!
Pete (NYC)
I wonder if Sale’s 1.17 career E.R.A. against the Yankees, as citied in the article, includes yesterday's outing of having given up a dinger to a new Yankee (Holiday), adding 2 runs over six inningss (ERA 3.00) to his stat book. May not seem like much, but it does emphasize that the Yankees have a new, stronger, and much younger lineup in 2017. This line up will undoubtedly balloon that stat a bit, as they will to other pitchers' around the league.

Here's the real "microcosm of the disparity" between the two teams: The Yanks are 18-7 (.720 pct) this spring (best in baseball) versus the Sox' 12-12 (.500 pct). It may only be spring training, but only a fool would discount that gap.
Doug (New Bedford/Oneonta)
You may well be right about the younger Yankees lineup, but having both runs driven in by 37-year old Matt Holliday doesn't really make that argument.
John (CT)
Not a dig at all at Chris Sale, but as a Yankee fan I smiled at his use of the word 'tradition' in the quote "There's a very winning tradition here". I suppose 14 years can a tradition make!
Jay Amberg (Neptune, N.J,.)
No doubt the Yankees weakness, for now, is the mound. Given the potential talent of the "baby bombers" while a lot of eyes will be on the Bronx this summer, I'll be making many trips to Arm & Hammer Park to watch auditions for the show with the AA Trenton Thunder.
Diego (NYC)
It's more fun watching the yankees fumble with new guys who are still figuring out the game than watching over-priced former sluggers, who are bad people, strike out.
Kevin (<br/>)
It's a rivalry...Etween the Sass hammer and the Yankee nail...The front running New Yorkers will pronounce themselves National League afficianados and cheer on the Let's Go's...
Bob Kavanagh (Massachusetts)
Yeah Boston fans have only one team in town. Small towns can't support two teams.
Mark Ryan (Long Island)
Kevin, there are few "front runners" in New York. But the rivalry between the Yankees and Mets is stronger than that with any other out of town team. The Red Sox invented this rivalry. When I was a kid in the early 70s it was the Orioles who were winning the division every year.
Plennie Wingo (Weinfelden, Switzerland)
Ah yes, but how many times has a star put on a new uniform and his prior resume becomes irrelevant?

The Yankees best move so far was signing Chapman for 6 years. He wanted so much to remain with the team last year and should do a great job.
Strysower (Queens)
Lol Sanchez bird Frazier and Torres plus kaprellian Montgomery and Sheffield just for a beginning