The real joke is pretending there was any forethought here. How about insisting that a patient pass a drug test before they are eligible for addiction treatment?
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I recommend a prong to add empathy & compassion.
How about some concern for Americans that are older, poorer, and suffering undue misfortune. How about it, Paul Ryan?
Hatchet man Ryan, as he was preparing a mean-spirited budget in 2011, was approached by economist Susan Feinberg after his dinner with 2 recognizable conservative economists--- and ordering 2 bottles of wine costing $350 a piece. It was Jayer-Gilles 2004 Echezeaux Grand Cru.
The most expensive wine in the house. Of course.
Meanwhile, Paul Ryan was drastically cutting programs for seniors and the poor by day.
Looking to slash every safety net program he could think of.
She computed that the $700 in wine the 3 men consumed over the course of 90 minutes amounted to more than the entire weekly income of a struggling couple making minimum wage.
This is a must read:
http://gawker.com/5819496/paul-ryan-and-the-350-bottles-of-wine
How about some concern for Americans that are older, poorer, and suffering undue misfortune. How about it, Paul Ryan?
Hatchet man Ryan, as he was preparing a mean-spirited budget in 2011, was approached by economist Susan Feinberg after his dinner with 2 recognizable conservative economists--- and ordering 2 bottles of wine costing $350 a piece. It was Jayer-Gilles 2004 Echezeaux Grand Cru.
The most expensive wine in the house. Of course.
Meanwhile, Paul Ryan was drastically cutting programs for seniors and the poor by day.
Looking to slash every safety net program he could think of.
She computed that the $700 in wine the 3 men consumed over the course of 90 minutes amounted to more than the entire weekly income of a struggling couple making minimum wage.
This is a must read:
http://gawker.com/5819496/paul-ryan-and-the-350-bottles-of-wine
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The GOP is ignoring a more efficient and affordable solution for universal coverage in the public interest: single-payer, "Medicare for All". Instead, we are being led by politicians beholden to big-money interests serving the profiteering and greed of today's medical-industrial-Big Pharma-Big Insurance complex.
The Republicans want to repeal much of the ACA and replace it with something similar. The Democrats want to preserve ACA pretty much as it is. We're left with a highly dysfunctional health care financing system that will not cover everyone .
Our health-care financing system is still in shambles. Tens of millions remain uninsured. Both political parties want to make this a choice between protecting the shambles versus making them even worse through Republican replacement policies that would further weaken health-care coverage.
The true replacement choice needs to be between accepting or tweaking a system in shambles or moving on to a well-designed single payer system — an improved Medicare for All that would provide affordable, accessible health care for everyone.
The ACA could be replaced by a publicly financed national health insurance program like the one outlined in H.R. 676, a bill filed in the last Congress that covers health/medical care for all Americans, and significantly lower costs by eliminating the private health insurance industry with its massive overhead and immense profits.
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The Republicans want to repeal much of the ACA and replace it with something similar. The Democrats want to preserve ACA pretty much as it is. We're left with a highly dysfunctional health care financing system that will not cover everyone .
Our health-care financing system is still in shambles. Tens of millions remain uninsured. Both political parties want to make this a choice between protecting the shambles versus making them even worse through Republican replacement policies that would further weaken health-care coverage.
The true replacement choice needs to be between accepting or tweaking a system in shambles or moving on to a well-designed single payer system — an improved Medicare for All that would provide affordable, accessible health care for everyone.
The ACA could be replaced by a publicly financed national health insurance program like the one outlined in H.R. 676, a bill filed in the last Congress that covers health/medical care for all Americans, and significantly lower costs by eliminating the private health insurance industry with its massive overhead and immense profits.
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The term prongs is nothing more than a way to sell crappy Chumpcare to others in Congress. Most folks recognized that the ACA was not perfect legislation when it came out, but Republicans blocked every attempt address any prongs then. So, the Chumpcare bill should stand on its own. They are so nebulous about the future because they never had a cohesive plan. I believe future prongs will be used to further reduce tax credits and other benefits so they can get conservatives to vote in favor of the bill now.
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Reading the added coverage link as to what is being discarded and what is being kept from the ACA, the one thing that stands out is the changes made that would result in those older than 50 paying 5 times what they pay now boils down to age discrimination in my book. Us older folks would be made to pay more while the wealthy get taxes cut. What kind of sense does that make?
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Ryan's Trumpcare is a wealthy tax cut with bonuses to insurance companies--oh, incidentally it mentions "access to" health care. Given the cruelty and complete lack of empathy for US citizens, this particular bill is the "nose of the camel," Once approved, the GOP will only go forward, not correcting any of its problems, but adding ore cuts to our social net.
Ryan's bill is primarily to end the ACA. Then the GOP gets to do what it wants. I have never before seen a government that is so determined to move foreword toward a militaristic future without regard to its citizens--all under the guise of democracy.
We spend more than the entire rest of the world on our military--just what war are we preparing for? My fear is Trump and others of similar ilk who say: we have these great weapons, why not use them?
Our war machine is perpetual and now an industry in its own right. The classic trope is : butter or money, i.e. citizens' needs or the military. The GOP has now decided: we are a military nation. Our citizens? It's their own fault.
Ryan's bill is primarily to end the ACA. Then the GOP gets to do what it wants. I have never before seen a government that is so determined to move foreword toward a militaristic future without regard to its citizens--all under the guise of democracy.
We spend more than the entire rest of the world on our military--just what war are we preparing for? My fear is Trump and others of similar ilk who say: we have these great weapons, why not use them?
Our war machine is perpetual and now an industry in its own right. The classic trope is : butter or money, i.e. citizens' needs or the military. The GOP has now decided: we are a military nation. Our citizens? It's their own fault.
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The trope is "guns or butter" and, yes, macho always prefers military spending. The testosterone surge makes one feel taller even if you are flat on your medical back.
Our political divide has become ever wider. I can foresee two possible resolutions. The shorter time line has us blowing up in a constitutional crisis which with President Trump's lack of governmental experience and propensity to egotistically trip over the line of legality (think Russia), may come to pass. The second takes years as the Boomer generation, to which I belong, passes and is replaced by generations that are tolerant of skin color, gender identity, and resistant to political labels. The first alternative will be messy, quick and very dangerous. The second keeps us in misery for years. I can't decide which poison I prefer.
Our political divide has become ever wider. I can foresee two possible resolutions. The shorter time line has us blowing up in a constitutional crisis which with President Trump's lack of governmental experience and propensity to egotistically trip over the line of legality (think Russia), may come to pass. The second takes years as the Boomer generation, to which I belong, passes and is replaced by generations that are tolerant of skin color, gender identity, and resistant to political labels. The first alternative will be messy, quick and very dangerous. The second keeps us in misery for years. I can't decide which poison I prefer.
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The only "prongs" Price and Mulvaney and House Republicans need to worry about are those of their constituents pitchforks if they pass this mess. 7 years to get 24 million people uninsured? Hobbesian, even by modern-day Republican standards.
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Patron: This is the crowd that incessantly bleats on and on about personal responsibility. For this reason alone, let's hope this budget passes with even more cuts so they too have a chance to experience some personal responsibility.
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We are 'one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all'; that was how we started each morning in school in the 1950's. Those same oldster is being told differently, our society is divisible with separate liberties and isn't for all when it comes at least to healthcare! You are too old, too sick and too expensive to be covered under our healthcare system. So bug off and find your own salvation. One thing that these youngsters or even old ones on public payroll forgot is that many of us can still think and vote. It will not be forgotten and we will just have to fight it best we know how at the ballot box if that is still sacrosanct!
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We've tried the market-based Democratic offering (ACA) and prices keep rising. All predictions show that the market-based Republican plan will do the same.
Maybe it's the entire concept that healthcare prices can be reduced dramatically with a market-based solution that is false...
Maybe it's the entire concept that healthcare prices can be reduced dramatically with a market-based solution that is false...
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You forgot prong 4: freedom to choose your own coffin.
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Who can afford a coffin?
I'm going to need a room mate.
I'm going to need a room mate.
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"It’s hard to know what Republicans may be picturing as they evoke the three-prong strategy. But people’s suggestions on Twitter include an electrical plug, a trident and a pronghorn."
I guess the NYT's standards rule out even hinting at the most obvious picture.
I guess the NYT's standards rule out even hinting at the most obvious picture.
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It should concern everyone that the administration keeps talking about prongs but never gives any details.
Can anyone truly trust that this should be passed now as the future prongs will supposedly fix everything?
Unfortunately, Republicans haven't explained exactly what their ultimate healthcare vision is.
Can anyone truly trust that this should be passed now as the future prongs will supposedly fix everything?
Unfortunately, Republicans haven't explained exactly what their ultimate healthcare vision is.
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The Republicans have absolutely no credibility when it comes to healthcare reform, the laughable comment by Trump, "Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated." The prong approach is merely a political tactic to sneak one past the goalie to "Stick it" to the American people and disproportionately so to Trump supporters. Standard Republican rhetoric about reducing regulations and leaving it to the states and free markets won't work, way more laughable than "Trickle down economics" Whether you agree that healthcare is a right or not it is undeniable that everyone will need healthcare. Those without coverage will end up costing taxpayers much more than providing coverage and publicly funded programs that more efficiently provide access to everyone. The only way to make the Republican approach less costly would be to repeal and replace Ronald Reagan's (their Icon) who did more than Obama to socialize medicine through the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) which required emergency departments to accept patients regardless of ability to pay. By repealing that Republicans could cut the cost of treating the uninsured by letting their constituents die in the streets. Of course ACA has had growing pains and of course the early adoption was by the sicker more costly patients and the program should be tweaked beyond the sausage making that appeased special interests.
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If the majority of Americans like TrumpCare as proposed or in the version including prong 2 and 3 the Republicans will soon have 60 senators and the filibuster option becomes a mute point in which case the pronging strategy will be obsolete, too. However, I very much doubt that the majority of Americans will like TrumpCare once its implications for the average person become clear. I'd rather think Americans will consider TrumpCare the biggest lie vs campaign promises of better care for more people and will judge it as the single biggest attack ever on the safety net of hard working, honorable Americans. A safety net pierced by three prongs.
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Attempting to pass something as important as a health care bill through with a special budget procedure is sneaky, underhanded and pathetic. It just proves that the Republican leadership knows their bill is crap and that it can't pass using the normal procedures. I don't know how Paul Ryan lives with himself. It's clear that Republicans, not the news media, are now the enemy of the people.
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Dems were forced to use reconciliation to pass the ACA. So even as I hate AHCA and like ACA, can't support your complaint.
However, this piece misrepresents what the Republicans are doing in important ways. No further "prongs" will ever make it past a Dem filibuster, which WILL happen. So the only way more healthcare stuff gets passed is if the Republicans exercise the "nuclear option" and blow up the filibuster. Second, "high risk pools" make no sense at all and save no money at all and WILL result in people with pre-existing conditions losing coverage. Third, use of the adjective "burdensome" to describe regulations is journalistic malpractice in favor of self-interested GOP frauds. Fourth, I work with healthcare officials and they believe malpractice is an insignificant issue and that previous efforts to allow multi-state insurance pools have not attracted any interest at all from national insurance carriers who would have to create local provider networks from scratch.
All in all, a puff piece for Republicans who are mindlessly determined to end the ACA simply because of the party that came up with it. The "prongs," if enacted, would all end up stabbing most of us where it counts.
However, this piece misrepresents what the Republicans are doing in important ways. No further "prongs" will ever make it past a Dem filibuster, which WILL happen. So the only way more healthcare stuff gets passed is if the Republicans exercise the "nuclear option" and blow up the filibuster. Second, "high risk pools" make no sense at all and save no money at all and WILL result in people with pre-existing conditions losing coverage. Third, use of the adjective "burdensome" to describe regulations is journalistic malpractice in favor of self-interested GOP frauds. Fourth, I work with healthcare officials and they believe malpractice is an insignificant issue and that previous efforts to allow multi-state insurance pools have not attracted any interest at all from national insurance carriers who would have to create local provider networks from scratch.
All in all, a puff piece for Republicans who are mindlessly determined to end the ACA simply because of the party that came up with it. The "prongs," if enacted, would all end up stabbing most of us where it counts.
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So why did so many people fall for the lies that our lier- in- chief told all through the months before the election? And still he continues to go on with this tactic with little opposition from the gutless Republicans in congress. And we continue to send our best people to foreign shores to fight for "democracy!" God help us ( and I hope she is listening).
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Dems didn't "come up with it". Remember Romneycare? It was a Republican invention, but when Obama adopted it, it suddenly became a "bad idea".
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You're giving Republicans too much credit in this article. The "prongs" are merely cover for them to destroy Obamacare while pretending that other things will fix.the obvious damage. They know they won't get passed and don't care. Also, they aren't trying to remove Medicaid rules so states can have "maximum flexibility". They're doing it to help states cut aid to the poor.
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Make sure you and all your friends read Nicholas Kristof's article from yesterday's NY Times: " And Jesus Said Unto Paul of Ryan...".If I were still in the pulpit every Sunday, I would read this word for word and let the chips fall where they may. And I'm sure there would be "chips" falling from this masterpiece!
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TrumpCare is small...it is because if it were any bigger it could be filibustered.
American Health Care Act: TrumpCare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifi9M7DRazI
American Health Care Act: TrumpCare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifi9M7DRazI
I practically gagged watching Tom Price speaking at the CNN town hall. How a man with a medical degree can get away with boldfaced lies is beyond me. All he did was regurgitate the myth that free market competition for individual plans would lead to more choices and lower costs than under the ACA. I hope prong 4 is the defeat of Republicans at all levels of government starting in 2018.
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But it will lead to more choices at lower cost. All the choices will cost little and provide almost nothing. Everyone will be able to afford a policy enabling them to buy a band-aid at CVS for 50 cents off.
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Typical Greedy Republican fare. Those who have the cash get the meat, those without the cash get the shaft.
Show those Ugly Republicans the boot at the next election.
Show those Ugly Republicans the boot at the next election.
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Three prongs? This is more like stick a fork in it and it's done.
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Want healthcare the join the military - plenty room in the budget for body bags
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Yes....their first prong is to cripple ACA. Their second and third prongs are to blame the democrats when their first prong fails.
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Poor little men!
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How about getting Pronged!
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I love how the right/Republicans always have identical talking points. They are so disciplined that everyone from White House to Fox News will use the very same words in describing things, "prong" just being the latest example. This repetition is so very effective in keeping their followers happy.
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I wish our side would make a similar effort. The progressive agenda is so poorly understood by so many Americans. And, thus, easily mis-characterized by our opponents. And repetition is still the best way to get through to people.
Also the act of choosing a word/phrase of the day/week would force my fellow liberals to focus on one thing for a while. Something they're not known for.
Also the act of choosing a word/phrase of the day/week would force my fellow liberals to focus on one thing for a while. Something they're not known for.
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Once you remove the mandate, the entire package collapses for the working class and costs become unsustainable again, annual huge increases, like before. They know this. There's a reason it worked in Massachusetts and Switzerland and why even normal people are better off there. You can't rely on capitalism when it's life or death, because it's no longer a product you're selling, it's blackmail.
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How about a prong called Single Payer?
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People thought the ACA was bad. The Republican patch makes a shaky situation worse and has nothing to do with repeal and replace. Republican voters who demanded repeal and replace bought the entire con.
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What is more important for the good of the country. Quality healthcare when people need it, or shrinking the size of the Federal Government? How difficult is it to answer that question?
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Really hard, apparently. Don't forget tax cuts for the rich.
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You caught it, you caught it. Great!
There is clear evidence that the Republicans really want to go back to pre-existing condition screening and high risk pools. This is apparently desired for prong 3, or prong 4, if prong 4 is when they have 60 Republican Senators.
It was Paul Ryan's plan on the CNN Town Hall in January 2017, and on Charlie Rose.
We also have this quote from Republican advisor Lanhee Chen:
"One issue is the House bill, as it’s designed now, is constrained by the reconciliation process, and so they can’t do as much elimination of regulations as conservatives want. They don’t address essential health benefits, they don’t address guaranteed issue, they retain the modified community rating structure. "
(here http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/9/14854982/lanhee-chen-gop... )
(Note that "guaranteed issue" and "modified community rating structure" mean "no denial of coverage or charging more because of pre-existing conditons". The Republicans want to "address" that--"get rid of" that.)
The same is indicated by Avik Roy at Forbes, in a 3/7/17 article.
(Good of you to link to Vox. They have some good stuff. I also like the Health Affairs blog, and the Wonkologist. And of course, the Upshot section of the Times.)
There is clear evidence that the Republicans really want to go back to pre-existing condition screening and high risk pools. This is apparently desired for prong 3, or prong 4, if prong 4 is when they have 60 Republican Senators.
It was Paul Ryan's plan on the CNN Town Hall in January 2017, and on Charlie Rose.
We also have this quote from Republican advisor Lanhee Chen:
"One issue is the House bill, as it’s designed now, is constrained by the reconciliation process, and so they can’t do as much elimination of regulations as conservatives want. They don’t address essential health benefits, they don’t address guaranteed issue, they retain the modified community rating structure. "
(here http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/9/14854982/lanhee-chen-gop... )
(Note that "guaranteed issue" and "modified community rating structure" mean "no denial of coverage or charging more because of pre-existing conditons". The Republicans want to "address" that--"get rid of" that.)
The same is indicated by Avik Roy at Forbes, in a 3/7/17 article.
(Good of you to link to Vox. They have some good stuff. I also like the Health Affairs blog, and the Wonkologist. And of course, the Upshot section of the Times.)
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Ok. Here's a definition of "prong":
"Each of two or more projecting pointed parts at the end of a fork."
So we're now being prodded by silverware.
Well, only the more affluent amongt us as. There rest of us are being poked and prodded by political groping hands. Can they make us roll over and then sit then jump through a hoop?
You know, they're not talking about someone else. The GOP is talking about us. You and me. Ordinary guys/gals/kids/grandparents.
Are we rare inside still? Don't overcook! You can always coverup political crap with ketchup.
Pokeman/woman. We're a child's game.
Bah-ah-ah! I'm bleating with you:
The next gate they open for us is just outside the slaughterhouse.
"Each of two or more projecting pointed parts at the end of a fork."
So we're now being prodded by silverware.
Well, only the more affluent amongt us as. There rest of us are being poked and prodded by political groping hands. Can they make us roll over and then sit then jump through a hoop?
You know, they're not talking about someone else. The GOP is talking about us. You and me. Ordinary guys/gals/kids/grandparents.
Are we rare inside still? Don't overcook! You can always coverup political crap with ketchup.
Pokeman/woman. We're a child's game.
Bah-ah-ah! I'm bleating with you:
The next gate they open for us is just outside the slaughterhouse.
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Quite frankly, when Ryan and the president plug in their "prongs" I hope they might remember to wash their hands.
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The GOP healthcare plan does not have minimum insurance standards. This will allow insurance companies again to ripoff people by sell policies that are cheap but do not cover people when they are ill. The GOP statement that Trumpcare gives citizens the freedom to buy the insurance they need. Insurance should cover all illnesses. The freedom issue is a red herring. Secretary Price said we can spend less and get better healthcare by kicking 24 million off Medicare. Maybe we should spend less on defense and get more equipment. Using this logic we should cut $54B from the Defense budget. This makes no sense. Trump promised better healthcare coverage and lower costs than the current ACA! The GOP plans delivers less benefits and gives rich people a major tax cut! Way to go Mr Blue Collar President! Just another outright lie!
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Yes, you have caught the math of it. No free lunch.
If people have insurance not covering every illness, or every needed treatment, or with payout-amount caps, then their coverage can fail them if they get sick enough. And then we have the one problem of we all pay if they get care from some part of the patchwork of state-government programs, or they get EMTALA stabilizing-only care, and we have the other problem of people who get billed large amounts for uncovered medical services, who either have to declare bankruptcy, or go with the "you can't get blood from a rock" method, which is stressful and ridiculous and unique here in the developed world, and people are wasting their time trying to save up assets.
If people have insurance not covering every illness, or every needed treatment, or with payout-amount caps, then their coverage can fail them if they get sick enough. And then we have the one problem of we all pay if they get care from some part of the patchwork of state-government programs, or they get EMTALA stabilizing-only care, and we have the other problem of people who get billed large amounts for uncovered medical services, who either have to declare bankruptcy, or go with the "you can't get blood from a rock" method, which is stressful and ridiculous and unique here in the developed world, and people are wasting their time trying to save up assets.
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Ms Sanger-Katz dropped the ball reporting this one. Republicans keep saying that no one will be worse off financially due to the repeal of the ACA and replacement with the Republican plan. Clearly, that's a lie. But Republicans keep insisting that the other proposals, none of which has been introduced, will make up for the cuts in Medicaid and other areas.
How? Changes in work requirements (for the sick?) and premium changes aren't going to do anything but work people to death, and raise charges on the poor and middle class.
The Times should be insisting that Trump show his hand and prove that the proposals won't hurt millions of people. Simply pretending that the "prongs" will suffice without proof is falling for yet another Republican lie.
How? Changes in work requirements (for the sick?) and premium changes aren't going to do anything but work people to death, and raise charges on the poor and middle class.
The Times should be insisting that Trump show his hand and prove that the proposals won't hurt millions of people. Simply pretending that the "prongs" will suffice without proof is falling for yet another Republican lie.
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I disagree on any ball dropping.
The Times has had a lot on all of what Trump has said, compiling them all together at recent points in time.
This is their only way of "insisting that Trump show his hand and prove that the proposals won't hurt millions of people". They really can't use physical force, perhaps, in this particular case, unfortunately.
They've also covered a lot of the horrible impact of the current plan, for example they've reported on the CBO report, and we have Paul Krugman with "A Plan So Bad It's Awesome", etc.
And on the plan Paul Ryan was saying was to be the replace two months ago on a CNN Town Hall and on Charlie Rose, which had full pre-existing-condition-screening, with state-run high risk pools to try to cover some of the uninsured (like pre-Obamacare in most states), they did have a nice article covering the problems with that system and the old state-run high risk pools (like "closed". "waiting list", "too expensive", "low coverage-payout limits").
I have a link to that last article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/business/president-donald-trump-healt...
(Since this article to which our comments in Upshot are about the 3 prongs, I point out that going back to pre-existing-condition screening is one of the possibilities for prong 3 (with 8 Senate Democrats--though I can't see how they would manage to get 8 Democrats) or prong 4 (if they get 60 Republicans in the Senate in the future.)
The Times has had a lot on all of what Trump has said, compiling them all together at recent points in time.
This is their only way of "insisting that Trump show his hand and prove that the proposals won't hurt millions of people". They really can't use physical force, perhaps, in this particular case, unfortunately.
They've also covered a lot of the horrible impact of the current plan, for example they've reported on the CBO report, and we have Paul Krugman with "A Plan So Bad It's Awesome", etc.
And on the plan Paul Ryan was saying was to be the replace two months ago on a CNN Town Hall and on Charlie Rose, which had full pre-existing-condition-screening, with state-run high risk pools to try to cover some of the uninsured (like pre-Obamacare in most states), they did have a nice article covering the problems with that system and the old state-run high risk pools (like "closed". "waiting list", "too expensive", "low coverage-payout limits").
I have a link to that last article here: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/business/president-donald-trump-healt...
(Since this article to which our comments in Upshot are about the 3 prongs, I point out that going back to pre-existing-condition screening is one of the possibilities for prong 3 (with 8 Senate Democrats--though I can't see how they would manage to get 8 Democrats) or prong 4 (if they get 60 Republicans in the Senate in the future.)
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Why not indict the GOP for murder using the reckless indifference to human life standard found in many murder statutes?
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Prongs - perfect for the forked tongue speaking Republicons.
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Hey GOP, stick a prong in it, it's done. Vote these guys out.
Causes of death in the US. So let's spend billions on a frigging wall and increased military spending and kill health care for millions.
#1 Heart disease: 614,348
• Cancer: 591,699
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
• Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
• Diabetes: 76,488
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773
Chances of dying because of:
Cancer 1 in 7
Any Injury 1 in 21
Chronic Lung Disease 1 in 27
Accidents 1 in 31
Stroke 1 in 31
Alzheimer’s Disease 1 in 47
Diabetes 1 in 53
Influenza/pneumonia 1 n 70
Kidney Disease 1 in 85
Suicide 1 in 98
Motor Vehicle A/dent 1 in 113
Falling 1 in 113
Murder 1 in 249
Assault by Gun 1 in 358
Police 1 in 8359
Foreign-Born Terrorists (all forms) 1 in 45,808
Tornado 1 in 60,000
Asteroid (Global Impact) 1 in 75,000
Lightning 1 in 174,443
Shark Attack 1 in 8,000,000
Refugee Terrorists 1 in 46,192,893
Illegal immigrant terrorists 1 in 138,324,873
Visa Waiver Program entrant 0 in 1
Causes of death in the US. So let's spend billions on a frigging wall and increased military spending and kill health care for millions.
#1 Heart disease: 614,348
• Cancer: 591,699
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
• Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
• Diabetes: 76,488
• Influenza and pneumonia: 55,227
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 48,146
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773
Chances of dying because of:
Cancer 1 in 7
Any Injury 1 in 21
Chronic Lung Disease 1 in 27
Accidents 1 in 31
Stroke 1 in 31
Alzheimer’s Disease 1 in 47
Diabetes 1 in 53
Influenza/pneumonia 1 n 70
Kidney Disease 1 in 85
Suicide 1 in 98
Motor Vehicle A/dent 1 in 113
Falling 1 in 113
Murder 1 in 249
Assault by Gun 1 in 358
Police 1 in 8359
Foreign-Born Terrorists (all forms) 1 in 45,808
Tornado 1 in 60,000
Asteroid (Global Impact) 1 in 75,000
Lightning 1 in 174,443
Shark Attack 1 in 8,000,000
Refugee Terrorists 1 in 46,192,893
Illegal immigrant terrorists 1 in 138,324,873
Visa Waiver Program entrant 0 in 1
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They count on the short attention spans to forget the details of whichever prong was last spoken of as they 'move on' to the next in an endless collection of prongs.
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The ability to use simplicity to describe complex topics is a rare skill.
"Prong" is a simple word, easy to visualize and "abstract".
It seems that the progressive intellectuals prefer to promote and value "novel" language, especially when the words sound cool but their meaning is debatable and obfuscating. " Metrics" and "optics" come to mind.
"Prong" is a simple word, easy to visualize and "abstract".
It seems that the progressive intellectuals prefer to promote and value "novel" language, especially when the words sound cool but their meaning is debatable and obfuscating. " Metrics" and "optics" come to mind.
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Maybe they should check into why medical care itself is so expensive. We pay 3 times as much for each medical procedure as they do in Europe. This is not a problem that can be fixed by adjusting insurance schemes.
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In the photo, is DR. Price demonstrating 5 prongs, attempting a Vulcan hand salute, or learning to count??? Please provide context. I'm entertained, curious AND perplexed. As usual.
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Prong? Is that GOP speak for " tool" ? How very appropriate.
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Yes, and it's very obvious where they would place that prong.
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This is why doing actual legislation in this manner is not allowed. They should not be endeavoring to change health care through "reconciliation". But the party of No is determined to eliminate everything that Obama did, great or terrible. But since they are endeavoring something so massive through this loophole, then they can't do all the other stuff, and they expect us to trust that they will. We, of course, should not let them do something this big through such a technicality, but we are powerless as usual. Shame will fall on us all.
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The 3 prongs of the GOP health care plan are the prongs of the fork they are going to stick into the poor, the middle class, anyone over the age of 50, and the elderly {I guess that's 4 prongs} Huge tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations, everybody else gets pronged.
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Why is it we heard nothing about these so-called "prongs" until Republicans started getting cold feet about their healthcare bill after the release Monday of the CBO analysis? Hmmmm....
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Apparently the GOP should bite the bullet and remove the right to filibuster. Then they could craft their bill as they wish. And all forthcoming bills on tax reform, etc etc.
The AHCA still won't pass though, because of Republican backlash against its generosity.
The AHCA still won't pass though, because of Republican backlash against its generosity.
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If we start from a place of ignorance (maybe feigned ignorance) and with a willingness to learn, then some pointed—and perhaps ironic—questions should get us to where we want to be, by narrowing down what Americans really want.
This one's easy. The first prong is repealing the ACA, gifting the wealthiest Americans $300 billion in tax cuts. The second prong is gutting medicaid, and in the process granting the wealthiest Americans $500 billion in tax cuts. The third prong is gutting social security, handing the wealthiest Americans upwards of a trillion bucks.
I'm not sure they should be called "prongs", though. I think they might be mispronouncing the word "wrongs".
I'm not sure they should be called "prongs", though. I think they might be mispronouncing the word "wrongs".
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Prongs as in a pointed tine on a pitchfork? Trying to roast the American public? Lying and think they won't get caught? Yeah, we're that dumb.
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