Well, I know many a people are going to absolutely go nuts on me, but I don't care anymore. I'm a 14 year old who grew up in a Christian household. I believe that Trump made a right move. He may need to tweak it a little, but nothing is perfect. We still need to bar the Islam-predominant country refugees, because we don't know if the Islam believers are peaceful or a terrorist. The only way to know if they are or not is a full background check, and that is a long and tedious process. So, I think we should make an immigration system where when the next time you immigrate to our country, you have your background check in place, and have it updated regularly. Might have some flaws, but it's better than nothing. Now, I'm sure that not all Islam worshippers aren't terrorists, but t doesn't mean that they aren't responsible for some things.
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To those saying this is illegal, can someone and I am very serious point me to the law, code, act, anything where I can clearly see this is illegal. All I have read is a bunch of words from various liberal organizations such as the ALCU but no one has pointed to anything representing legal fact.
It is also shameful how the NY Times framed this situation. Correct me if I am wrong, but the President did not say no immigrants into the US. He clearly has stated he wants all immigrants to be vetted and accorded due process. He has stopped the flow for 90 days in order to ascertain what the due process is.
It is also shameful how the NY Times framed this situation. Correct me if I am wrong, but the President did not say no immigrants into the US. He clearly has stated he wants all immigrants to be vetted and accorded due process. He has stopped the flow for 90 days in order to ascertain what the due process is.
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Judge Anne Donnelly is my hero, hands down!
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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After just one week in office , our respect around the world has been damaged by Trump , hopefully not irrevocably .
He is isolating us from the world and pushing away our allies while he cozies up to Putin . It won't be too long before those sanctions are lifted .
What is the world to think of us ? It doesn't seem fair that one man can destroy the pride of America , in one week .
This is really awful . I'm glad to see all the protests .
Now Congress needs to fight back and fight back hard !
He is isolating us from the world and pushing away our allies while he cozies up to Putin . It won't be too long before those sanctions are lifted .
What is the world to think of us ? It doesn't seem fair that one man can destroy the pride of America , in one week .
This is really awful . I'm glad to see all the protests .
Now Congress needs to fight back and fight back hard !
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A religious test is un-American and puts us in the league of countries like Saudi Arabia. A government willing to go this far is a threat to our democracy.
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Home land sec' is watching over 1000 suspect isis in all 50 states , Its about time ! Keep it coming Mr President !
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Time to impeach the Judge from Brooklyn for conspiracy to undermine the sovereignity of the United States. The United States has no constitutional requirement and no law on the books which require that we take in ONE refugee however deserving or otherwise. Refugees and foreigners have ZERO rights to enter the United States. Zero, Nada, Zilch. It is a privilege which the President of the United States -- the elected head of state -- has total and absolute right to withdraw for any reason or no reason at all.
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Now that all the Oz-masters have been smoked out from behind their curtains, the press is replete with stories of the delayed and aghast, bemoaning that the very core of the world order of high flyover immigrants and foreigners is being disturbed by some dastardly president. How inconvenient.
After 20 years of waiting to cross over 25 international borders over 45 years, waiting in Iraq PAXes (military airports) for helos that Obama stopped flying for us in 2011, only a few months after he ordered a halt to all border biometrics throughout Iraq 8 months before we left - leaving the country with a flood of ISIS fighters - I have only one small bit to impart to all the international flyover crowds.
Now you know what most NORMAL Americans have been enduring under arguably the worst president in memory: Barack Obama.
Welcome to the new world we want for our country. It ain't pretty, but considering where we were headed with Obama (and Clinton), it's heaven.
For us, Donald Trump is a welcome relief. Get over it, or just stay away. Thank you for listening. We are undergoing needed change here in America.
After 20 years of waiting to cross over 25 international borders over 45 years, waiting in Iraq PAXes (military airports) for helos that Obama stopped flying for us in 2011, only a few months after he ordered a halt to all border biometrics throughout Iraq 8 months before we left - leaving the country with a flood of ISIS fighters - I have only one small bit to impart to all the international flyover crowds.
Now you know what most NORMAL Americans have been enduring under arguably the worst president in memory: Barack Obama.
Welcome to the new world we want for our country. It ain't pretty, but considering where we were headed with Obama (and Clinton), it's heaven.
For us, Donald Trump is a welcome relief. Get over it, or just stay away. Thank you for listening. We are undergoing needed change here in America.
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'No Man is an Island'
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
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This is great news. For years immigrants have been using their status to attend the best schools and take American jobs. These weren't here to asymilate. They were exporting their culture, values and way of life. Overtime they development a sense of entitlement. Trump is doing exactly what American voters demanded. It's going to be a chaotic couple of days for sure, but in the end the rule of law will prevail and our culture and way of life will flourish again.
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I denounce this fascist occupier of the White House (now, appropriately named). One week, and look at the havoc he wreaks.
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A lot of college professors will be happy. Foreign students have been used as cheap labor to displace professors in colleges for a very long time.
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"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Republican representatives, take note.
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Republican representatives, take note.
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As a Muslim and an American, I know this is not right. Just as the senseless violence and barbarism and oppression of minorities and women that is committed by ISIS and its sympathizers goes against everything Islam stands for, this ban of people based on religion goes against everything America has stood for. And moreover it does nothing except play right into the terrorists hands, by convincing some Muslims of the lie that America and the West is our enemy and that they hate us for who we are. 99.99% of Muslims Americans are peace loving people who want nothing but to take care of our families , provide a life for our children, and be a good neighbor to all those around us by contributing positively to the world we live in. We wish no harm for anyone. But there is the .001% who believe the West has oppressed us and that Islam has commanded us to fight them. This ban will just embolden this tiny minority. Most likely if any future attacks come, it will be from Muslims who are US citizens who have been born or raised here, not from those fleeing persecution abroad. So again this ban does no good, only harm. My fellow Americans, let us stop being driven by fear. Let us see the big picture. Let us the see the good in each other. For the sake of all our children.
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America and Trump want to ban Syrian, etc refugees...fine. I may not agree, but okay, that's their goal. For godsakes, do it an informed and organized manner. Anyone who ran a business like this, would be FIRED. At least educate Customs, Border Patrol. At least create a standard vetting process. At least give 24 hours lag time. Trump's executive orders are turning him into a dictator. At least we have the judicial branch for now. I do not hear anything from the legislative branch...which is pretty much full of useless puppets now. It doesn't make sense...we love our American "democracy" and want to spread around the world. But, then we vote for an individual who has the makings of a dictator...give me a break.
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Every one seems to have forgotten how we got into this mess to begin with. Remember 9/11. We did not start this, but we needed to finish. Unfortunately we haven't yet and what ensued after 9/11 is the influx of additional non-vetted people from that part of the world which were bent religiously on doing us harm. Which they did on many occasions and every time we opened our mouths in complaints inquiring of the whereabouts of moderate Muslims, we were accused of Islamophobia. No once did any Muslim openly criticized and chastised the Islamic terrorists for their deeds. In fact, they found all kind of excuses to justify their actions. Unfortunately, they found American political fools cooperating with them so as not to insult Islam. Well, I don't know the reason for which those people are coming here, but when you look at those so-called refugees, they look healthy, fed and always with at least 2 or 3 children, some newborns. Now, when did the get the time and the place and the luxury to keep making babies while they are suffering and claim that they cannot even walk and weak from malnutrition and mistreatment. ? We need to vet all those people as they are probably coming here to take full advantage of our kind heart and abuse our welfare system, about which they have heard so much about. I was born an raised in a middle eastern country with a predominantly Muslim population, and I will tell you those people have no tolerance for any religion but their own.
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To my conservative friends:
Many of you seem to think that liberals want no restrictions whatsoever on immigration
I can't speak for other liberals, but I doubt that very many, if any, are in favor of unrestricted immigration.
What we are in favor of, is doing something about the enormous misery that causes this immigration, which is a difficult complex subject for which i don't have simple answers. (Think about parents in central American sending their children, alone, to the US: can you imagine how awful things must be for a parent to do that ?)
Second, we are appalled by Trump because we think the rule is racist (why aren't anti abortion terrorists a bigger threat); cause it is stupid (it won't help); it appears to be hypocritical (Saudi Arabia, home of the 9/11 men, and a country which exports its violent extremist Wahhabi version of Islam, isn't on the list), , and, finally, it appears to offer a religious test, which, since you all respect the constitution, you will find abhorrent.
what am i to make of all this
Third, as the Times explained, congress passed laws prohibiting immigration rules based on national origin; surely, if Obama had issued an order that appeared to contravene Congressional laws, you would be outrage
Many of you seem to think that liberals want no restrictions whatsoever on immigration
I can't speak for other liberals, but I doubt that very many, if any, are in favor of unrestricted immigration.
What we are in favor of, is doing something about the enormous misery that causes this immigration, which is a difficult complex subject for which i don't have simple answers. (Think about parents in central American sending their children, alone, to the US: can you imagine how awful things must be for a parent to do that ?)
Second, we are appalled by Trump because we think the rule is racist (why aren't anti abortion terrorists a bigger threat); cause it is stupid (it won't help); it appears to be hypocritical (Saudi Arabia, home of the 9/11 men, and a country which exports its violent extremist Wahhabi version of Islam, isn't on the list), , and, finally, it appears to offer a religious test, which, since you all respect the constitution, you will find abhorrent.
what am i to make of all this
Third, as the Times explained, congress passed laws prohibiting immigration rules based on national origin; surely, if Obama had issued an order that appeared to contravene Congressional laws, you would be outrage
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So the USA has to pay to fix all other countries? People have a right to move here and have American taxpayers pay for their social welfare programs because their country is "miserable"?
What's racist about the executive order? Please indicate the portion you find racist.
The law you're thinking of is the immigration and nationality act of 1965, which needs to be repealed in my opinion. But in any case, it's completely inapplicable to the executive order at issue. Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of Obama's 2015 travel ban? Was it racist?
I love this executive order and I hope it's the first of many to come. Many Americans don't want to import problems. If I have to make a value judgment and choose whether I want the USA to become more like a middle Eastern country or less like a middle Eastern country, I'm picking the latter. Sorry, it's based on feelings and values. I can't prove it by science or a study. I just would prefer not to become more like a middle Eastern country.
What's racist about the executive order? Please indicate the portion you find racist.
The law you're thinking of is the immigration and nationality act of 1965, which needs to be repealed in my opinion. But in any case, it's completely inapplicable to the executive order at issue. Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of Obama's 2015 travel ban? Was it racist?
I love this executive order and I hope it's the first of many to come. Many Americans don't want to import problems. If I have to make a value judgment and choose whether I want the USA to become more like a middle Eastern country or less like a middle Eastern country, I'm picking the latter. Sorry, it's based on feelings and values. I can't prove it by science or a study. I just would prefer not to become more like a middle Eastern country.
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Supposedly, Obama's State Department had a 6 month ban on refugees from Iraq in 2011.
Steve Bannon is running this screwed up two-car funeral. Trump, who probably has not even read these executive orders much less understood them, is simply his puppet. And both are puppets of Putin. What is happening to the country?
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2.8 million American's votes were flushed down the toilet by the Electoral College.
Mr. Trump now wants to flush the American Century.
Mr. Trump now wants to flush the American Century.
17
How can punishing innocent refugees help Americans feel better about their own circumstances?
18
President Trump's executive order on refugees is horrible, but it didn't come out of thin air. It builds upon the War on Terror initiated by President W. Bush and expanded by President Obama. The resistance to Trump's order is heartening, but the United States needs to change our whole approach to international affairs. It isn't enough just to have Trump's order rescinded.
5
I think that people should calm down a little. Let the administration works out the proper procedure. Some of these people have waited for more than 120 days already.
4
Trump's behavior in a very sensitive matter demonstrates his shallowness and limited understanding of the seriousness of his actions. If he continues to address these world problems in like manner over the next 4 years, he will have completely alienated the world against us in short order.
He needs to think through his foreign and national policy reactions more intelligently. If not, the country will not support him for very long. Macho behavior is not a substitute for solid decision making.
He needs to think through his foreign and national policy reactions more intelligently. If not, the country will not support him for very long. Macho behavior is not a substitute for solid decision making.
25
Do Mr. Pence and Mr. Ryan hate the US so much that they are willing to support and condone this ban that goes against the very fiber of what makes America great? Or is it that they are Bannon's puppets and too cowardly to do the right thing? Whichever it is, they are smart enough to know where this path leads. They will go down in history as Trump/Bannon's Himmler and Goring.
During the VP debate, Mr. Pence looked directly at the camera/ the American public and said that he would provide a voice of reason to Trump. We haven't been hearing that voice of reason at all. Is it because Mr. Pence coldheartedly lied to the American public? Is it because he is weak and therefore unfit for the job as VP?
During the VP debate, Mr. Pence looked directly at the camera/ the American public and said that he would provide a voice of reason to Trump. We haven't been hearing that voice of reason at all. Is it because Mr. Pence coldheartedly lied to the American public? Is it because he is weak and therefore unfit for the job as VP?
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Resist
Repeal
Remove
Repeal
Remove
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Seems that when Commander-in-Chief Bone Spur got his draft deferment the doctor missed his jerky knee during the examination.
17
Time to label Trump as a terrorist and deport him.
23
Thank you, Judge Donnelly.
16
Immigrants were "vetted" upon arrival at Ellis Island for physical and mental health reasons, job prospects, relatives, and any other "reason" that the inspectors deemed appropriate.
Read your history, S.T.E.M.-majors.
Read your history, S.T.E.M.-majors.
4
Smiley, and immigrants have been vetted as well in the last decades. So what's your point?
7
They were not vetted based on their religion.
5
Trump is a blithering idiot!!
OK you're a terrorist who wants to get in to the US. So do you:
Spend 1 or two years going through all the stuff for refugee status.
OR
Buy a passport and a visa stamp on the black market and fly in.
Using the refugee route to sneak into the US is about as stupid as going to a police academy to get a uniform and a gun to use in your terrorist plot.
OK you're a terrorist who wants to get in to the US. So do you:
Spend 1 or two years going through all the stuff for refugee status.
OR
Buy a passport and a visa stamp on the black market and fly in.
Using the refugee route to sneak into the US is about as stupid as going to a police academy to get a uniform and a gun to use in your terrorist plot.
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Live on FOX 1/28/2017:
"I'll tell you the whole history of it," Giuliani responded eagerly. "So when [Trump] first announced it, he said, 'Muslim ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'"
Giuliani continued, saying he assembled a "whole group of other very expert lawyers on this," including former U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Tex.) and Rep. Pete King (R-NY).
#NotMyPete Remember when King was very publicly trash talking Trump during the primaries? It's difficult for me to articulate the visceral repulsion that I feel knowing that our local representative played a central role in a well-planned act of religious intolerance perpetrated on International Holocaust Remembrance Day. If you share my disgust, then please share and re-share this post and #FirePete2018.
"I'll tell you the whole history of it," Giuliani responded eagerly. "So when [Trump] first announced it, he said, 'Muslim ban.' He called me up. He said, 'Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'"
Giuliani continued, saying he assembled a "whole group of other very expert lawyers on this," including former U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey, Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Tex.) and Rep. Pete King (R-NY).
#NotMyPete Remember when King was very publicly trash talking Trump during the primaries? It's difficult for me to articulate the visceral repulsion that I feel knowing that our local representative played a central role in a well-planned act of religious intolerance perpetrated on International Holocaust Remembrance Day. If you share my disgust, then please share and re-share this post and #FirePete2018.
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Seems as if Trump has forgotten that there are several branches of government in America. One of the men held up had put his life on the line helping our troops in Iraq....I guess he sounds like a real threat to this Administration?!?!
12
This administration doesn't know what they're doing . Trump , Reince Preibus and Bannon are like the "Three Stooges ".
We look like amateur hour around the world .
We look like amateur hour around the world .
25
Apparently they're saving Saudi Arabia for their "Alternate" or "Enhanced" List later.
9
These refugees are a consequence of the Iraq war. A war that got out of hand and spilled over into Syria. A war that was created with manufactured evidence over the objections of many. A war that was supported by the NYT.
9
Wrong. Syria is a civil war. Lybia, Egypt etc are a result of dictatorships, Islam and not our meddling. We've screwed a lot of stuff up, but Syria isn't one of them. We don't owe them sanctuary from some misguided sense of guilt.
2
Thank God someone in Washington is finally looking out for the interest and safety of the American people and not worrying what the liberal media thinks about it.
5
Danno, why do you say this will have an impact on the safety of the American people? Many in the U.S. military and intelligence establishment think it will undermine our safety, since ISIS will use it to show how the U.S. is at war with Islam. No matter how the Trump Administration spins it, that is the perception.
Also keep in mind that since 9/11, with the exception of one of the two involved in San Bernadino, all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil have been by U.S. citizens. So what is your rationale for focusing on these particular people from these particular countries, rather than putting the emphasis where the facts over the last 16 years show resources and attention are actually needed?
Also keep in mind that since 9/11, with the exception of one of the two involved in San Bernadino, all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil have been by U.S. citizens. So what is your rationale for focusing on these particular people from these particular countries, rather than putting the emphasis where the facts over the last 16 years show resources and attention are actually needed?
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" Childe Donald's Pilgrimage" Season 1, Episode 2: "Fixing Problems Is Harder Than It Sounds." The practical education of Childe Donalde begins. Disregarding the advice of his tutors, the impetuous Childe Donald learns that the seemingly simple act of closing one door surprisingly opens many others. Has a lesson been learned? Tune in next week to find out.
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Trump's Executive Order Causes Chaos at Fort Lauderdale Cruise Terminal
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2017/01/articles/passenger-rights/trumps-ex...
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2017/01/articles/passenger-rights/trumps-ex...
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Jimmy Carter did the same thing during the Iran hostage situation and the Republicans signed on to it. WHF is wrong with every body?? How the h3ll are we supposed to know who the bad guys are??? I am a veteran of the Vietnam war, I served to protect this nation from all enemies. I still abide by that oath. If you all love these ISIS idiots and can tell them apart just by looking then go sign up to vet these refugees at the border. Another thing, how do we separate the bad ones from the good ones? We can't unless there is a blanket order preventing them from coming into this country without being vetted. Yes, some innocent people will get caught up in this temporary ban, after being vetted they will be allowed in again. Again, if there is a better idea lets hear it.
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A great solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Really.
The ISIS threat to Americans, on our soil, is a fabrication of the religious right and defense contractors, who both rely on fearmongering to generate $billions in revenue annually. Why do you want to make it easy for them?
The ISIS threat to Americans, on our soil, is a fabrication of the religious right and defense contractors, who both rely on fearmongering to generate $billions in revenue annually. Why do you want to make it easy for them?
2
implosion is imminent.
it will happen.
it will happen.
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A NYC friend reports of one detainee: " Vahideh Rasekhi is a PhD student at Stony Brook University, where she studies and writes about linguistics and teaches Farsi. She went home to Iran for the winter break, and got on a plane Friday to come back for her studies. She spent yesterday detained at JFK. Last night, journalist Bahman Kalbasi reported that even after the emergency stay issued by a federal judge, she was put on a plane bound for Istanbul. TNow this morning, it was reported that three lawyers intervened and she came off the plane. But she is still in detention at JFK as far as any information is available, and she is unable to communicate with us.
Vahideh is in her second term as President of Stony Brook's Graduate Student Organization, and is an advocate for improved benefits and leadership opportunities for graduate students, including lobbying at the U.S. Capitol. Last fall she won the university's President's Award for Excellence in Teaching by a Graduate Student."
Vahideh is in her second term as President of Stony Brook's Graduate Student Organization, and is an advocate for improved benefits and leadership opportunities for graduate students, including lobbying at the U.S. Capitol. Last fall she won the university's President's Award for Excellence in Teaching by a Graduate Student."
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Remember right after the election, when the coasts went through a brief period of introspection, and asked themselves, "How did we misread the rest of the country so badly?"
Well, the echo chamber being provided here by the Times is one example of how that happened.
Right after the election, a few people expressed a desire to better understand flyover country, and a few other people even suggested that maybe the Left should pay it some attention. Perhaps even try to talk with people who live there? I think there was even an Op-Ed in the Times along those lines.
Well, now the Times has a choice, and an opportunity.
They can continue to censor their comment boards to make it appear that 99% of the country is Blue. Or, they can allow their comments to be an actual discourse between the two sides, and maybe foster some real communication, which is sorely needed.
If your side is as right as you think they are, then you should welcome the opportunity to communicate. On the other hand, if you are afraid that your side might struggle, you should continue to pretend that the opposition doesn't exist. Of course, you might pay for that at the polls again.
Well, the echo chamber being provided here by the Times is one example of how that happened.
Right after the election, a few people expressed a desire to better understand flyover country, and a few other people even suggested that maybe the Left should pay it some attention. Perhaps even try to talk with people who live there? I think there was even an Op-Ed in the Times along those lines.
Well, now the Times has a choice, and an opportunity.
They can continue to censor their comment boards to make it appear that 99% of the country is Blue. Or, they can allow their comments to be an actual discourse between the two sides, and maybe foster some real communication, which is sorely needed.
If your side is as right as you think they are, then you should welcome the opportunity to communicate. On the other hand, if you are afraid that your side might struggle, you should continue to pretend that the opposition doesn't exist. Of course, you might pay for that at the polls again.
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I live in Montana and have never been sensored. You need to deal with real "reality" Trump lost the majority vote. The electoral college saved the Republicans but the Russian Connection and Gulliani and Comey treason are yet to be revealed with such Trump strong arming of political operatives.
1
Why would I care that Trump lost the majority vote? I didn't vote for him, and even if I did, the majority vote is meaningless. The rules of the game are laid out in advance, and each side develops a strategy accordingly. Trump's worked, Clinton's did not. If she thought the majority vote was going to matter, she miscalculated badly. If you think it matters now, you are similarly misguided.
It would be one thing if the country was largely Democratic except for the Office of the President, but that isn't remotely the case. As you know, Congress is Republican. The Supreme Court will soon be 'Conservative'. A record number of State Houses and Governor's Offices are Republican.
Meanwhile, certain Fourth Estate institutions such as the New York Times, continue to bury their heads in the sand, and pretend that the country is almost homogeneously Blue. It is anything but. It is as Red as it has been in most of our lifetimes.
The Blue folks are not going to change that by ignoring it.
It would be one thing if the country was largely Democratic except for the Office of the President, but that isn't remotely the case. As you know, Congress is Republican. The Supreme Court will soon be 'Conservative'. A record number of State Houses and Governor's Offices are Republican.
Meanwhile, certain Fourth Estate institutions such as the New York Times, continue to bury their heads in the sand, and pretend that the country is almost homogeneously Blue. It is anything but. It is as Red as it has been in most of our lifetimes.
The Blue folks are not going to change that by ignoring it.
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Dear Sir
do you have any evidence that the comment board is censored, other then for abusive language ?
In any event, how does an order that excludes Saudi Arabia (9/11, remember) makes sense to you ?
Does an order that appears to violate laws prohibiting national origin bias make sense to you ?
I have noticed over the years that whenever a conservative does something wrong, their fellow conservatives don't say, thats wrong; instead they say, liberals do it.
EG. Rush Limbaugh Sandra Flue: other conservatives defended Rush on the grounds that liberals do it !!
This is like , if you kid came home from school and said he or she cheated on a test, and you said its ok if other kids do it.
really ?
do you have any evidence that the comment board is censored, other then for abusive language ?
In any event, how does an order that excludes Saudi Arabia (9/11, remember) makes sense to you ?
Does an order that appears to violate laws prohibiting national origin bias make sense to you ?
I have noticed over the years that whenever a conservative does something wrong, their fellow conservatives don't say, thats wrong; instead they say, liberals do it.
EG. Rush Limbaugh Sandra Flue: other conservatives defended Rush on the grounds that liberals do it !!
This is like , if you kid came home from school and said he or she cheated on a test, and you said its ok if other kids do it.
really ?
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We all need to hold the entire administration and the Republican Party responsible for this dangerous, Anti-American policy. Trump is the front for the Alt-Right, and the Republicans have failed to stand up to any of them. It is not just the infant terrible, Trump. Republicans are guilty. Rebel.
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Any action that Trump takes that makes liberals cry, foam at the mouth, and babble incoherently on message boards, is the right action to take.
5
This is fantastic. Protect the Christian minorties. Trump all the way on this. The man has a solid moral compass.
2
It is so obvious that so many Trump supporters are experts on the Second Amendment . Perhaps they should start shouting it out like the did the Second for the past few years if they are who they say they are.
Except it's anti constitutional.
They probably already have the country picked out we're invading to thwart criticism of their incompetence.
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The irony of ironies. It’s the US president who should be deported to any country that would take him. (after legal impeachment procedures of course—we’re a country of laws).
He would fit in well in one of those countries with male dominated cultures and undeveloped civil liberties. The very ones the immigrants to the US are escaping from. Our president boasted of physically grabbing and assaulting women, thus he’d find admirers in a male dominated society that sees women as passive and inferior.
And many of our Republicans, if deported with him, would feel at home there too---since much of the party is a throwback to a prior age, when males dominated women, and religious fundamentalism reigned.
We saw proof of Trump’s mismatch with our country with the women’s march of millions across the US and the world, expressed repugnance and defiance at Trump’s attitude to gender & racial equality and dignity. We won’t stand for dominance and supremacy ---sadly still part of certain powerful elements of the US.
So for the sake of US civil liberties and gender equality, take Trump out to JFK airport, with cameras recording the scene. Put him on a plane with armed guards, to a country with values better aligned with him---culturally backward, oligarchic, male/ religiously dominated---where Might makes Right and the strong dominate the weak. We’ll all come out and wave good-by, then set about making our country better.
He would fit in well in one of those countries with male dominated cultures and undeveloped civil liberties. The very ones the immigrants to the US are escaping from. Our president boasted of physically grabbing and assaulting women, thus he’d find admirers in a male dominated society that sees women as passive and inferior.
And many of our Republicans, if deported with him, would feel at home there too---since much of the party is a throwback to a prior age, when males dominated women, and religious fundamentalism reigned.
We saw proof of Trump’s mismatch with our country with the women’s march of millions across the US and the world, expressed repugnance and defiance at Trump’s attitude to gender & racial equality and dignity. We won’t stand for dominance and supremacy ---sadly still part of certain powerful elements of the US.
So for the sake of US civil liberties and gender equality, take Trump out to JFK airport, with cameras recording the scene. Put him on a plane with armed guards, to a country with values better aligned with him---culturally backward, oligarchic, male/ religiously dominated---where Might makes Right and the strong dominate the weak. We’ll all come out and wave good-by, then set about making our country better.
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It was illegal for mayors to declare themselves sanctuary cities for illegal aliens. It was illegal for Obama to admit children into the U.S. and send them to sanctuary cities. It's simply amazing to me that liberals do not believe there should be any restrictions on people flooding into the United States. The only possible result of a such a policy is national bankruptcy, lawlessness, and chaos. I can only surmise that this is the liberal plan for U.S., to destroy it, because nobody can possibly believe that if you eliminate all immigration laws that things are going to go well.
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how do liberal errors (assuming they exist) justify Trump errors ?
As the Times reported, the law clearly states that the president can't make national origin a basis for an order; it is illegal.
surely, if Obama had issued such an order, you would be outraged.
In any event, you offer a straw man argument about liberals; show me any evidence for broad liberal support for truly un restricted immigration.
If I may say so, this is a , excuse the language, a fantasy of your imagination.
And I am pretty liberal
As the Times reported, the law clearly states that the president can't make national origin a basis for an order; it is illegal.
surely, if Obama had issued such an order, you would be outraged.
In any event, you offer a straw man argument about liberals; show me any evidence for broad liberal support for truly un restricted immigration.
If I may say so, this is a , excuse the language, a fantasy of your imagination.
And I am pretty liberal
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Seeing how damaging his executive order has been playing out this weekend think of this. When trump talks about imposing a tax on imports will you trust that he has made the best decision? A decision that will be good for America. Do you trust that he is smart enough about world affairs and economics to make an educated decision? Just think of how much damage this man is making. Decades of development and evolution of the American system is being destroyed. His decisions will cause incredible damage. Now...
How did this happen? For one..I can't help but think the electoral system was designed to prevent people like trump from becoming president. Not actually electing someone like him. What failed in this election was that the electors didn't do the right thing. It's like half the antiquated system worked the other clearly didn't.
How did this happen? For one..I can't help but think the electoral system was designed to prevent people like trump from becoming president. Not actually electing someone like him. What failed in this election was that the electors didn't do the right thing. It's like half the antiquated system worked the other clearly didn't.
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We should certainly admit those who helped us in Iraq and Afghanistan and now fear for their lives in those benighted societies. That is simple repayment of debt. Beyond that - as a sovereign nation - we have the right to deny entry to any citizen of another country. That's one of the principle reasons Trump was elected. We should not apply a religious test directly, but we do need to know that those we admit agree with our most basic principles, in particular that we govern ourselves with a secular state. We do not believe that government should be subservient to religion. That's the threshold that many believers in Islam have to cross for us to be comfortable with them.
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The righteous indignation of people who are not well educated about our country's history is predictable, but unfortunate. For all of you folks blathering on about how irreparable harm is being done to our sterling reputation, please educate yourself a little bit. First off, our reputation isn't that sterling, and we've done similar things in the past, repeatedly ( as recently as last year, also in 2011, and probably dozens of times before ).
For just one example, read up on Angel Island ( ie 'Ellis Island of the West' ) where we build a facility largely to keep out Chinese immigrants.
"Often referred to as “the Ellis Island of the West,” Angel Island bore
some prominent differences. It was meant to enforce laws intended to
keep immigrants out—mainly Chinese. In the late 1800s, powerful antiimmigration
sentiment blossomed in the United States. Chinese workers
were blamed for taking jobs away from whites and for helping to trigger
the depression of the 1870s. In 1882, Congress passed the Chinese
Exclusion Act, halting the immigration of Chinese laborers for 10 years."
https://www.nps.gov/commonground/Fall2003/grants.pdf
No country in the world has open borders, except for a few completely lawless areas of Africa. All countries seek to control immigration, and those policies ebb and flow. Generally speaking, nothing is irreparable and history will repeat.
So try and get some perspective, and some education. Save the vitriol for another day.
For just one example, read up on Angel Island ( ie 'Ellis Island of the West' ) where we build a facility largely to keep out Chinese immigrants.
"Often referred to as “the Ellis Island of the West,” Angel Island bore
some prominent differences. It was meant to enforce laws intended to
keep immigrants out—mainly Chinese. In the late 1800s, powerful antiimmigration
sentiment blossomed in the United States. Chinese workers
were blamed for taking jobs away from whites and for helping to trigger
the depression of the 1870s. In 1882, Congress passed the Chinese
Exclusion Act, halting the immigration of Chinese laborers for 10 years."
https://www.nps.gov/commonground/Fall2003/grants.pdf
No country in the world has open borders, except for a few completely lawless areas of Africa. All countries seek to control immigration, and those policies ebb and flow. Generally speaking, nothing is irreparable and history will repeat.
So try and get some perspective, and some education. Save the vitriol for another day.
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Dear Mr Hillman: I am pretty sure that most liberals in the NYC area (we I am from) are well aware of the shameful history of Ellis Island, etc
Second, you seem to offer a straw man: very few, if any liberals are in favor of no border controls - that is, at best, hyperbole on your part
I don't know what my fellow liberals think, but i think that if we stopped supporting horrible dictatorships (Saudi Arabia, example #1, where the 9/11 hijackers are from and NOT on the list) we might have less of a problem in the first place
Second, you seem to offer a straw man: very few, if any liberals are in favor of no border controls - that is, at best, hyperbole on your part
I don't know what my fellow liberals think, but i think that if we stopped supporting horrible dictatorships (Saudi Arabia, example #1, where the 9/11 hijackers are from and NOT on the list) we might have less of a problem in the first place
It's time to call for a recall of this administration. It is not representative of the American majority, and each day brings new policies that are contrary to what America represents. This sham needs to end before more damage is done.
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The order is even more insidious in that section 5(b) directs the Sec of Homeland Security "to prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion.."
No muslims then! Tricky to circumvent unless of course they have potential infiltrators pretend to be Christian. No doubt, a letter from the Bishop or pastor will be required. This order won't work, can't work but it ticks another box on his supporters list.
No muslims then! Tricky to circumvent unless of course they have potential infiltrators pretend to be Christian. No doubt, a letter from the Bishop or pastor will be required. This order won't work, can't work but it ticks another box on his supporters list.
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Business(es) must be pretty darn good in Saudi Arabia,..not to put them on YOUR List at least 3Times.
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Ask your average American whose city has had to deal with the influx of Somalis, if they want more.
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I wonder if anyone asked Native Americans if they wanted to be robbed of their land by Europeans? Mmh let me think.....
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And now Trump has elevated Bannon to full membership in the National Security Council - above both "the director of national intelligence & the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff". Chilling.
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Thanks but I'm not sure you quite got that right.
Trump's very own Rasputin, Steve Bannon, is now in place as head puppetmaster.
Actually EML has got it exactly right Air Marshal.
President Trump said he would do this when he was running for President-Why is everyone so SHOCKED at this decision. Where were these demonstrators on election day-too lazy to vote or not eligible. People who voted for him knew exactly what he was going to do. He wants to keep American people safe.
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He lost the popular vote by a large margin. Fact. People are voicing their overwhelming opposition to him. Fact. He is consistently fear mongering and lying to the public. Fact. Open your eyes
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3 million more people VOTED for Clinton. We did vote. You are not in the majority.
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You say this is about safety. Well the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, why aren't those countries on the list? How about Egypt and the UAE? Not on the list. That's because Trump has hotels and business dealings in the 4 countries that actually have carried out terror acts in the US. The 7 countries on his list have never had anyone committing a terrorist act here. See this for what it is. If you want safety then white Christian males (who have carried out over half of the terror acts) should be banned too right?
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The supreme law of our land is the Constitution.
Please show me where in that document it states that the United States has any obligation to anyone to take him/her/them in.
My family came here the right and legal way. Did yours? If not, then they are breaking our laws and they are criminals who should be deported. Period.
Good job, Mr. Trump. True Americans are 150% behind you.
Please show me where in that document it states that the United States has any obligation to anyone to take him/her/them in.
My family came here the right and legal way. Did yours? If not, then they are breaking our laws and they are criminals who should be deported. Period.
Good job, Mr. Trump. True Americans are 150% behind you.
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The refugees arriving here do not simply board a plane one day and come. These are refugees who were thoroughly vetted and went through the legal process to come here. (By there's never been a terrorist act committed by a refugee from any of the 7 countries on the ban list) Legal residents with green cards were unable to come home. This isn't about illegal immigrants in the airports, legal residents and refugees with clearance were being denied to leave the airports in the U.S.
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Melania Trump came illegally. Let's look at your family and friends a little more deeply and realistically, I guarantee you will find someone that was breaking an unjust or discriminatory law in the process. As a country we were founded on immigration and this has largely lead to our success. Open your eyes, see the real world and not the mist of Trump's paranoia and lies
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The order aims at deporting green card and visa holders, ie legal immigrants.
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And if President Hillary had executed the same order...?
There would be sycophants marching to worship her.
Your commenters are myopic liberals ( oh, my bad, they're "progressives"), who respond to ANYTHING PRESIDENT Trump does or says as would a Pavlovian dog.
There would be sycophants marching to worship her.
Your commenters are myopic liberals ( oh, my bad, they're "progressives"), who respond to ANYTHING PRESIDENT Trump does or says as would a Pavlovian dog.
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Your post is easy to respond to Smiley, "President Hillary" would NOT have "executed" (perhaps you mean promulgated) such an order -- no chance. And, not a single person I know who voted for her is or was a "sycophant marching to worship her". We voted for her because she is a decent human being and would have, for the most part, promulgated reasonable and sensible policies.
I loathe Trump and everything he stands for because it is nihilistic and inhumane -- not to mention bone-stupid.
I loathe Trump and everything he stands for because it is nihilistic and inhumane -- not to mention bone-stupid.
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What's the benefit of mentioning what hasn't or can't happen, in lieu of what actually has?
There's plenty of articles, pieces, statements,..about it.
There's plenty of articles, pieces, statements,..about it.
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Look at what is happening in Europe with its tens of thousands of undocumented/unvetted immigrants.
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To the left here, it looks like paradise.
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Doing fine thanks. Have compassion for vulnerable and do not discriminate based on religion. Learned some lessons from WW2.
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Please send your comments to your Senators and Representatives.
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I don't find this blanket policy from Trump sensible at all, except to appease a portion of the populace to feel good about their own station. I don't agree with an open-border policy, or a "wet foot, dry foot" policy effectively to any illegals these days, particularly in those sanctuary cities, neither would I ever believe that banning nationals from the specific countries are going to be any more effective in making us safer. But it does not make sense to me at all, to ban even the green card holders who have supposedly been previously vetted before they can get their green cards.
That said, I don't think any stay from judges will work for very long in preventing Trump from doing what he does; afterall, executive orders infer power to the president to do EXACTLY what it's designed, which is to give the president broad power in policy making without going through the usual oversight and process.
To digest somewhat: To say "We Are ALL Muslims Now" (from one of the placards in the picture)? I'm sorry, it rubs me the wrong way. It's nice to see people protesting out of genuine concerns for others' benefits, but no, I'm not muslim now, never will be. If anything, "we are all migrants," that would have been a more fitting and reasonable sign. Talking about one kneejerk (of Trump) to the next (of the protesters), this is as good as it gets.
That said, I don't think any stay from judges will work for very long in preventing Trump from doing what he does; afterall, executive orders infer power to the president to do EXACTLY what it's designed, which is to give the president broad power in policy making without going through the usual oversight and process.
To digest somewhat: To say "We Are ALL Muslims Now" (from one of the placards in the picture)? I'm sorry, it rubs me the wrong way. It's nice to see people protesting out of genuine concerns for others' benefits, but no, I'm not muslim now, never will be. If anything, "we are all migrants," that would have been a more fitting and reasonable sign. Talking about one kneejerk (of Trump) to the next (of the protesters), this is as good as it gets.
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We were migrants until we became a sovereign nation. The world will always have good and evil. Therefore we secure our boarders just like we lock our doors and vehicles
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What I don't understand is that people don't know the difference between naturalized citizens (born in the US) with a birth certificate. And a immigrant. Our educational system has defiantly failed us.
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Trump thinks he can run the USA the way he ran his business, ignoring inconvenient rules and laws, lying obsessively, and surrounding himself with sycophants. When are republicans of conscience (if not an oxymoron) going to recognize that the inmates have taken over the asylum? Dozens of intelligence/security experts denounced Trump as dangerous while he was a candidate. He's quickly proving them right. Where are they now?
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That would mean we'll be declaring Bankruptcy around 5Times, if not more.
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"... When are republicans of conscience (if not an oxymoron)..."
Rich from Berkeley, you answered your own question. We see flashes of nobility from Sen. McCain, quiet moderation from Sen. Flake, and common sense and decency from Sen. Graham but only when it doesn't make any other Republicans angry. But who else is there? Rand Paul? He is unpredictable and not in the leadership.
In the House? What evidence is there of Speaker Ryan ever showing a shred of conscience, character, or independence? Same as to anyone else in the Repub leadership. In the ranks, there are a few mavericks like NC's Walter Jones -- who may support or oppose Trump's order, I don't know -- but they are nowhere near the leadership.
At this time, party is more important than country among the Repubs, with very few exceptions. and nearly all of these "leaders" are all but lining up to kiss Mr. Trump's behind. Tragic but true.
Rich from Berkeley, you answered your own question. We see flashes of nobility from Sen. McCain, quiet moderation from Sen. Flake, and common sense and decency from Sen. Graham but only when it doesn't make any other Republicans angry. But who else is there? Rand Paul? He is unpredictable and not in the leadership.
In the House? What evidence is there of Speaker Ryan ever showing a shred of conscience, character, or independence? Same as to anyone else in the Repub leadership. In the ranks, there are a few mavericks like NC's Walter Jones -- who may support or oppose Trump's order, I don't know -- but they are nowhere near the leadership.
At this time, party is more important than country among the Repubs, with very few exceptions. and nearly all of these "leaders" are all but lining up to kiss Mr. Trump's behind. Tragic but true.
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This is an absolute disgrace. Why is anyone surprised that there is chaos associated with Trump's executive order? Everything he touches turns to chaos. It's apparent that this, like most of the orders he signed this week, was not well thought out. Who wrote it? Who was consulted? Not only does it go against everything that this country stands for, but the way it treats green card holders, who are U.S. citizens, and students is absolutely despicable. What are Trump and Bannon going to do next, haul away the Statue of Liberty? They are both evil, despicable, antisemitic, white supremacists, who are in the process of establishing an authoritarian regime. Not only must they be stopped, but until Trump either self-destructs is impeached, or otherwise removed from office, a psychiatrist should be added to the White House staff. I saw him on television this morning and in one week he has become a frightening figure. Look at his face.
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It would be interesting to see the amount of money the USA has spent on anti-terrorism since 9/11/2001.
There have been terror attacks on our soil since 9/11 - the Boston Bombers, the San Bernardino shooters-who-had-bombs-ready, the Orlando shooters who wanted to kill as many gays as possible, and so on. So the dollars spent for our safety has shown how difficult it is to prevent and predict these murders.
But it comes at a cost, at a time when our own people need help. So how many billions spent on anti-terror activities? How many billions that could have provided health care and education?
Someone must have the numbers and could total the billions so that we could know what Muslim terror has cost us. And yes, it's mostly Muslim terror around the world, in Muslim countries as well as non-Muslim countries. All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.
There have been terror attacks on our soil since 9/11 - the Boston Bombers, the San Bernardino shooters-who-had-bombs-ready, the Orlando shooters who wanted to kill as many gays as possible, and so on. So the dollars spent for our safety has shown how difficult it is to prevent and predict these murders.
But it comes at a cost, at a time when our own people need help. So how many billions spent on anti-terror activities? How many billions that could have provided health care and education?
Someone must have the numbers and could total the billions so that we could know what Muslim terror has cost us. And yes, it's mostly Muslim terror around the world, in Muslim countries as well as non-Muslim countries. All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims.
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I say we're EXCEPTIONAL and in the US I seriously doubt that's true.
"All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims."
"All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims."
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Google it.
The Homeland Security website has every dollar every spent for “anti-terror.”
The Homeland Security website has every dollar every spent for “anti-terror.”
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AL you have more gun toting terrorists in your country than possibly would like to believe, Those people are mostly not Muslims they just warped humans getting it wrong,
This policy won't prevent terrorism, it will not even stop acts of terror on the streets of America. Mainly because sometimes history tells us humans get it wrong.
We humanity, have to promote, Equality, understanding and tolerance to all Humanity. Be they any kind of difference from ourselves. What right do you have in our world to be the key holders of moral values. We live on a tiny planet we have to work out how to rub along.
Look to the:- self serving , power corrupted, and bigotry of certain members of our kind and work out how to negate them. Closing borders and building walls either wastes time and money. This is just Populism sad human made bigotry.
This policy won't prevent terrorism, it will not even stop acts of terror on the streets of America. Mainly because sometimes history tells us humans get it wrong.
We humanity, have to promote, Equality, understanding and tolerance to all Humanity. Be they any kind of difference from ourselves. What right do you have in our world to be the key holders of moral values. We live on a tiny planet we have to work out how to rub along.
Look to the:- self serving , power corrupted, and bigotry of certain members of our kind and work out how to negate them. Closing borders and building walls either wastes time and money. This is just Populism sad human made bigotry.
Who will they come for next? It's clear our government is being taken over by fascists. Where to from here?
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To all those ranting that Trump just did what Obama did in 2016 by banning entry from the same countries, please read below what was REALLY done by the Obama administration and why.
From nytimes.com, 2/16
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security on Thursday added three countries to a growing list that would prohibit people who have visited those nations in the past five years from entering the United States without a visa.
The new countries are Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The department indicated that other nations could be added.
The Obama administration previously announced changes to the visa-waiver program that would make it harder for travelers to enter the United States from Europe if they had dual citizenship from Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria, or had visited one of those countries in the last five years. The restrictions announced on Thursday would not apply to those with dual citizenship in Libya, Somalia or Yemen, the agency said.
The changes to the visa-waiver program come after the terrorist attacks in Paris on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people and wounded 368. Because the attackers were all European citizens who were eligible to receive visa waivers, some lawmakers and counterterrorism officials feared that terrorists could exploit the program and travel to the United States to commit similar attacks.
The travelers are not barred from the United States, but they will have to go through the more rigorous regular visa application process to enter the country.
From nytimes.com, 2/16
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security on Thursday added three countries to a growing list that would prohibit people who have visited those nations in the past five years from entering the United States without a visa.
The new countries are Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The department indicated that other nations could be added.
The Obama administration previously announced changes to the visa-waiver program that would make it harder for travelers to enter the United States from Europe if they had dual citizenship from Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria, or had visited one of those countries in the last five years. The restrictions announced on Thursday would not apply to those with dual citizenship in Libya, Somalia or Yemen, the agency said.
The changes to the visa-waiver program come after the terrorist attacks in Paris on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people and wounded 368. Because the attackers were all European citizens who were eligible to receive visa waivers, some lawmakers and counterterrorism officials feared that terrorists could exploit the program and travel to the United States to commit similar attacks.
The travelers are not barred from the United States, but they will have to go through the more rigorous regular visa application process to enter the country.
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I think this would be a wonderful time for the Peoples Republic of China to take in a few million refugees and demonstrate their leadership to the world on this matter.
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Except no one wants to go there. Their, social welfare system has, ... A few more holes than ours.
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As Trump would say--Sad! Also illegal and shortsighted. As an expatriate and dual citizen in Canada, I wish we'd known in time to temporarily shelter those who were put back on planes, separating families, even green card holders; students from their classes, researchers from contributing.
I am not a social media member, but I would suggest a crowdfunding incentive to pay for the return flights and other expenses of those who were rejected at the last moment, regardless of their visas/other credential.
Some have suggested more extreme vetting for immigration or visiting is required. They evidently do not know how stringent the selection process is in the first place. What do they want--forced conversion via torture a la Spanish Inquisition? Vulcan mindmeld to get at the innermost thoughts of the candidates?
Again; Sad!
I am not a social media member, but I would suggest a crowdfunding incentive to pay for the return flights and other expenses of those who were rejected at the last moment, regardless of their visas/other credential.
Some have suggested more extreme vetting for immigration or visiting is required. They evidently do not know how stringent the selection process is in the first place. What do they want--forced conversion via torture a la Spanish Inquisition? Vulcan mindmeld to get at the innermost thoughts of the candidates?
Again; Sad!
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:...They evidently do not know how stringent the selection process is in the first place. What do they want..."
I suspect the congressional supporters don't know much about the process; or if a few of them do, they're hiding it. They are just playing to the political opportunity that Trump gave them -- the opportunity to push the people's fear button.
Trump probably knows something about it by now, because he must have been briefed by now. But he probably started this just because he sensed the political advantage that the fear button presented to him. Sad and frightening, but I am inclined to believe it until I see evidence to the contrary.
I suspect the congressional supporters don't know much about the process; or if a few of them do, they're hiding it. They are just playing to the political opportunity that Trump gave them -- the opportunity to push the people's fear button.
Trump probably knows something about it by now, because he must have been briefed by now. But he probably started this just because he sensed the political advantage that the fear button presented to him. Sad and frightening, but I am inclined to believe it until I see evidence to the contrary.
The families separated themselves. How did you not know in time. He has promised to do this throughout his entire campaign. You chose to believe the media that Clinton was winning and Trump would never be nominated. You chose to ignore the Trump rallies held in coliseums and arenas and thousands more outside. Clinton could never even fill a high school gym. So how did you not know?
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Trump’s ban on the entry of refugees and people from seven predominantly Muslim countries.
Lawyers who sued the government to block the White House order said the judge’s decision could affect an estimated 100 to 200 people who were detained upon arrival at American airports.
Well, sure.... it's all fun n' games until it happens to be yourself, or someone you know, or the family of the guy your daughter somehow came to love. Otherwise.... just hunker down and hope they don't look your way next....
Lawyers who sued the government to block the White House order said the judge’s decision could affect an estimated 100 to 200 people who were detained upon arrival at American airports.
Well, sure.... it's all fun n' games until it happens to be yourself, or someone you know, or the family of the guy your daughter somehow came to love. Otherwise.... just hunker down and hope they don't look your way next....
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What's the problem here? Canada wants all of them.
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The buck has to stop some where in this unsustainable "out-of-control" mass immigration into Western Civilization! This is insane the "open borders" philosophy! Nations are being blurred out of existence, races are being breeded out of existence, cultures are being subdued for those of the middle east - islam.
I know a lot of those fools protesting are being paid by George Soros enterprises who otherwise would not be there. Don't you fools want a thriving strong nation again? Were you all taught by your socialist professors and teachers in school to hate America? Use your heads people! Have you ever known a communist nation ever succeeding in bring Utopia to its people? No, they bring mind control, material control, slavery and fear! Look what happened to the soviet union - for those old enough to know - North Korea, North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Eastern Europe, the Berlin Wall that separated one country into two. You want to live behind barbed wire, guard towers, high powered machine guns, to be told what to do , what to say, censorship like you never have seen in your young lives! Karl Marx's theories do not work and have been proven to fail.
I know a lot of those fools protesting are being paid by George Soros enterprises who otherwise would not be there. Don't you fools want a thriving strong nation again? Were you all taught by your socialist professors and teachers in school to hate America? Use your heads people! Have you ever known a communist nation ever succeeding in bring Utopia to its people? No, they bring mind control, material control, slavery and fear! Look what happened to the soviet union - for those old enough to know - North Korea, North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Eastern Europe, the Berlin Wall that separated one country into two. You want to live behind barbed wire, guard towers, high powered machine guns, to be told what to do , what to say, censorship like you never have seen in your young lives! Karl Marx's theories do not work and have been proven to fail.
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Just to correct you on one point, I was present at protests this weekend, and I actually was not paid a dime. I could have been home grading papers, but I thought my time was better spent standing up for people more vulnerable than I am.
And I am from Texas, too.
And I am from Texas, too.
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and swinging too far to the right brings the same authoritarian excesses..shortsighted indeed
These people that protesting for the freedom of middle eastern people to come to America, do not know of these other wars, they are too young. Fifty years from now they will look back and say......what in the world happened to us? After they will be forced to live in sharia law.
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Bravo for our federal courts and cheers for the ACLU! This is how a country appalled by our new President's excesses, of both word and deed, will stand up to him. In our courts we'll only be nibbling at the fringes of this massive assault on the norms of our (more or less) democratic society: it's in the Rule of Law we'll have a find refuge .... until, well, until we manage to wake up conservatives and others to the real peril we've unloosed on ourselves.
However long that will take, the rest of America (and much of the world) must cherish and engage each other more fully while we also enlist the judiciary in rescuing the political branches from their excess or their shameful silence and acquiescence.
However long that will take, the rest of America (and much of the world) must cherish and engage each other more fully while we also enlist the judiciary in rescuing the political branches from their excess or their shameful silence and acquiescence.
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Massive assault? Funny I don't remember seeing conservatives rioting and destroying property. I haven't heard of conservatives ambushing our police officers because they didn't get what they wanted
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So, what's going on out at the airport? Did they send anyone home? Are the Customs and Border people following the Judges order?
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Trump has no rational, reasoning or critical thinking skills or processes. he is like a herd of bulls in a china shop. We do need to enforce the immigration and visitor laws of this country. 40% or so have legally entered our country and over stayed their legal status. Most of them have been here for years and assimulated into our society. There is just not enough man power to enforce the laws and keep track of aliens. and trump just put a clamp on federal hiring. The southern border needs about 1500 agents more to patrol the border and who knows how many more agents would be needed to monitor the new legal arrivals at all ports of entry. obviously the system for monitoring these people either doesn't work or the system is totally overwhelmed. to make a decree like this without fore thought is just plain foolish and wrong. 4 years of this is too long
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The system is overwhelmed.
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He's only creating more terrorist.
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He is so swift to make moves in one week and his cabinet is not 100% approved yet and serving in place. Would they even matter?
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Gosh, I wonder why persons from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Quatar arent on the list, despite them being countries of origin for 9-11 perpetrators. (Oh I forgot -- Trump has personal business interests in these countries.) Sad.
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Just think golf clubs. Isn't that his specialty.
I could mention our past golfer in chief, what's his name.
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So much for the competent businessman narrative. Candidate Trump was a dirty joke. President Trump is a danger to the world.
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This could be just another sleight of hand, I fear. Bannon on NSC? And what about Holocaust? By the way, Jared is a grandson of a Holocaust survivor! So, people are outraged by this Muslim Ban when White House is hosting a children and family show. This eerily resembles Hitler.
On the flip side, people like Glenn Greenwald and Susan Sarandon are chiming in now. This is not an attempt to troll them but they should be held responsible in part. They were warned of this president's dangerous tendencies but people made the lame excuse that he doesn't mean or do what he said.
It is a sad day for America, not just the Muslim Ban - let's call a spade a spade instead of Newspeak - but her fast descent shows she is worse than the banana and pineapple republics. And Mr Greenwald is cheering how wonderful citizen protest is on Twitter. Really, this election and this slew of EOs have set the world back by 50, 100 years!
On the flip side, people like Glenn Greenwald and Susan Sarandon are chiming in now. This is not an attempt to troll them but they should be held responsible in part. They were warned of this president's dangerous tendencies but people made the lame excuse that he doesn't mean or do what he said.
It is a sad day for America, not just the Muslim Ban - let's call a spade a spade instead of Newspeak - but her fast descent shows she is worse than the banana and pineapple republics. And Mr Greenwald is cheering how wonderful citizen protest is on Twitter. Really, this election and this slew of EOs have set the world back by 50, 100 years!
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Bos in Boston said: "...people like Glenn Greenwald and Susan Sarandon are chiming in now. This is not an attempt to troll them but they should be held responsible in part. They were warned of this president's dangerous tendencies..."
I fully appreciate your frustration. I am an immigrant advocate by career and most of my personal friends are vulnerable immigrants. Yet I, too, voted 3d party in November.
Where to put the blame, I don't know. I am confident that I'm not a low-information voter by any standard. Yet I did not see just how unbelievably awful Trump is. I feel that I was denied the opportunity to see this, but I am not sure whom to blame. Perhaps the mainstream press to a degree, because of their tendency to give equal legitimacy to any two opposing viewpoints? Perhaps Ms. Clinton and her surrogates, for not stating more specifically and convincingly why Trump is unsuited to the Presidency?
I don't know where we do from here, but I don't see that attacking Greenwald and Sarandon is productive.
I fully appreciate your frustration. I am an immigrant advocate by career and most of my personal friends are vulnerable immigrants. Yet I, too, voted 3d party in November.
Where to put the blame, I don't know. I am confident that I'm not a low-information voter by any standard. Yet I did not see just how unbelievably awful Trump is. I feel that I was denied the opportunity to see this, but I am not sure whom to blame. Perhaps the mainstream press to a degree, because of their tendency to give equal legitimacy to any two opposing viewpoints? Perhaps Ms. Clinton and her surrogates, for not stating more specifically and convincingly why Trump is unsuited to the Presidency?
I don't know where we do from here, but I don't see that attacking Greenwald and Sarandon is productive.
If it isn't already obvious, Trump has to go. If his first week is any indication of what his presidency will be like, our country will soon dissolve into chaos. We cannot have a functional government with a leader of his staggering ignorance and incompetence. It is entirely dysfunctional to imagine Trump and his administration planning policies and orders that will be smart, rational, and well executed. It's just not going to happen.
We are going to see daily protests, daily mishaps, daily fake-news spewing, daily widespread upset, unhappiness, chaos, anxiety. What was the rationale offered by Trump for targeting these 7 countries? None. His order is unsupported by any known evidence, and hence feels random.
Trump is a chaos-creating machine. We cannot function as a democracy with such a leader. It's not sustainable. His senseless, reckless chaos will take our country down.
Look, I know many of you had hopes for Trump. But it's time to request that refund. How do you package him up? Will Amazon issue a refund slip? We need to ship him off.
We are going to see daily protests, daily mishaps, daily fake-news spewing, daily widespread upset, unhappiness, chaos, anxiety. What was the rationale offered by Trump for targeting these 7 countries? None. His order is unsupported by any known evidence, and hence feels random.
Trump is a chaos-creating machine. We cannot function as a democracy with such a leader. It's not sustainable. His senseless, reckless chaos will take our country down.
Look, I know many of you had hopes for Trump. But it's time to request that refund. How do you package him up? Will Amazon issue a refund slip? We need to ship him off.
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"Trump has to go"
Everybody on the Left has been saying that since the 90% Hillary win in the polls was disproven. Don't act like your motto has anything to do with what Trump is doing now.
Everybody on the Left has been saying that since the 90% Hillary win in the polls was disproven. Don't act like your motto has anything to do with what Trump is doing now.
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that's kind of the whole point, it's not always about sides....it seems that a majority of ppl would rather have a bit of modest corruption and stability than chaos and gratuitous pirate raiding
MaryEllen: all those factors that you mentioned are all part of the freedoms that we cherish here in America. The country is working properly, relax everything will be fine. Don't panic!
Carved on our Statue of Liberty:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
Oh Mr. T! What shameful pronouncement have you wrought?
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."
Oh Mr. T! What shameful pronouncement have you wrought?
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So what? That is an outdated slogan on a statue, not u.s. law. Read the constitution, a real law btw. It says nothing about allowing anybody in here who wants to.
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Perhaps Lady Liberty has looked to our shore and said, "Help the homeless and tempest-tossed who live here.........they need your help".
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Lazarus's poem -which was not a voted policy, btw- doesn't mention welcoming people planting bombs or spreading Shariah law. In other words, the World has changed; so do policies.
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Is this a repeat of "First they came for the Muslims from xyz, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't one..."?
I am not a white male and I do not have business ties to DT. I am afraid. And anyone who isn't a white male with business ties to DT or a member of his family, you should be afraid too. Because DT doesn't give two ***** about you.
Wake up Trump supporters! The United States of America is on the brink of fascism. All in one week in office.
I am not a white male and I do not have business ties to DT. I am afraid. And anyone who isn't a white male with business ties to DT or a member of his family, you should be afraid too. Because DT doesn't give two ***** about you.
Wake up Trump supporters! The United States of America is on the brink of fascism. All in one week in office.
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I'm not White and I spent my entire (mostly in the "Hood") life dealing with Bullies.
Such a person isn't reserved for any race or gender.
I'd rather lose fighting them/resisting/being against them,..than acquiesce.
Such a person isn't reserved for any race or gender.
I'd rather lose fighting them/resisting/being against them,..than acquiesce.
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Unfortunately, trump voters are fascists! They love this chaos, they love steve bannon. America is doomed
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Don't forget to support the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) by joining. Support all other members of the community who are working diligently on this issue and any of the others being created daily by the new president. Support them in any way in your power -- money, time, good wishes. Trump is the largest disruption to society and peace that I have experienced. And this is just the beginning. So don't just sit there complaining. (please)
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The ACLU must love Trump. He's made the ACLU relevant again. Its lawsuit is weak, but that's actually unimportant. It now has a case on which to base fundraising and which will likely garner very good headlines.
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That's President Trump, NOT Mr. Trump. Show respect to our President.
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"Respectfully"
It's apparent POTUS Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
It's apparent POTUS Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
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your insane if you think he deserves any reape3ct
he works for us now. i want to see some respect for the american people first and not just lies
he works for us now. i want to see some respect for the american people first and not just lies
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Oh please. He doesn't deserve that title.
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President Trump makes me ashamed to be an American. We are done as a country until everyone admits that true psychopaths lied their way into the Oval Office. Don't kid yourself. It is just a matter of time before the nukes will be used.
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@Dave
My friend a USAF general is resigning. Will NOT take any orders from Trump. To him they will ALL be “unlawful.”
UCMJ: “Members of the military have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders." This principle was considered so important that we--we, the government of the United States--proposed that it be internationally applied in the Nuremberg trials."
My friend a USAF general is resigning. Will NOT take any orders from Trump. To him they will ALL be “unlawful.”
UCMJ: “Members of the military have an obligation to disobey unlawful orders." This principle was considered so important that we--we, the government of the United States--proposed that it be internationally applied in the Nuremberg trials."
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"My friend a USAF general is resigning."
Good. A few more hundred and we'll have replaced all the flag officers Obama forced to resign who were Conservatives.
Good. A few more hundred and we'll have replaced all the flag officers Obama forced to resign who were Conservatives.
Most of the immigrants Trump banned are fleeing wars enabled by US "regime changing." And the Only nation that needed banning was terror-and-hate funding Saudi Arabia, which Wasn't banned, since they're Oily.
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The irony is beyond Ironic on this. Not only isn't Saudi mentioned but neither is Cheney, Rumster, Bush, Yoo, Rice, the CONgress,...
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The Syrian civil war has nothing to do with us.
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Dear Al from Idaho
Friday, January 27 was International Holocaust Remembrance Day 2017.
I guess you think that my dad and other Americans were stupid to fight in WWII?
We aren’t “fighting” in the civil war. At a minimum, most of us just want to provide a safe haven for the refugees!
Friday, January 27 was International Holocaust Remembrance Day 2017.
I guess you think that my dad and other Americans were stupid to fight in WWII?
We aren’t “fighting” in the civil war. At a minimum, most of us just want to provide a safe haven for the refugees!
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Most of the immigrants Trump banned are fleeing wars enabled by US "regime changing." The Only nation that needed banning was terror-and-hate funding Saudi Arabia, which Wasn't banned, since they're Oily.
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Things that make you go hmm
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@Jim
It’s NOT the oil. Iran has oil.
HOWEVER:
“The seven nations targeted for new visitation restrictions by President Trump on Friday all have something in COMMON: THEY ARE PLACES HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY BUSINESS INTERESTS.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-busin...
It’s NOT the oil. Iran has oil.
HOWEVER:
“The seven nations targeted for new visitation restrictions by President Trump on Friday all have something in COMMON: THEY ARE PLACES HE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY BUSINESS INTERESTS.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-busin...
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It lifts my spirit to see so many people respond spontaneously at airports across the county this damaging order. The anti- Trump protesters act with love and empathy; the Trump supporters act from anger and fear.
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Love and empathy are not qualities of the left, the left is for chaos, domestic terrorism, and lawlessness.
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How about we "act" within u.s. law and what's best for our citizens, for a change?
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What? And your comment is based on what information? Can you give examples?
This chaos was created by the far right. There. That's an example of you being wrong.
This chaos was created by the far right. There. That's an example of you being wrong.
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We must create our own order out of this chaos that capitalism cannot solve. Working people the world over must come together to fight for our common needs of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We can't depend on any representative of the capitalist elite to end our suffering! It is, and has always been, up to us to fight for what we want and need because our cause is a common cause the world over. We all want the same things for our children, our families and ourselves.
We are more than willing to work, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to get a good education, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to rebuild our infrastructure, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to bring an end to wars, but capitalism won't let us!
Now we must be willing to organize ourselves into a peaceful, loving, democratically organized force against capitalism in order to create the kind of world we all want and bring an end to capitalism--their borders, wars, jails, and oppression--and create a socialist world of equality and justice for all!
We are more than willing to work, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to get a good education, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to rebuild our infrastructure, but capitalism won't let us!
We are more than willing to bring an end to wars, but capitalism won't let us!
Now we must be willing to organize ourselves into a peaceful, loving, democratically organized force against capitalism in order to create the kind of world we all want and bring an end to capitalism--their borders, wars, jails, and oppression--and create a socialist world of equality and justice for all!
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Use Venezuela as a blueprint. What will you do when you need toilet paper. Socialism doesn't inspire anyone to improve themselves.
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Stupid people with petty authority are the bane of mankind. When a stupid and thoughtless person has the authority to order stupid people to do his bidding, it's the end of times.
Where do we go from here??
Where do we go from here??
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Where do we go?
What did our founding fathers do when they were faced with an irresponsible leader? (hint: King George III)
We rise in protest and fight back! Tens of thousands gathered in Copley Square in Boston today!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/29/live-rallies-coply-against-...
President Obama told us what was needed! Run for office. Get involved at the grassroots level--just as he did! Obama came from a single mother home and rose by getting involved. Community organizer in South Chicago, state representative, then US Senator, then POTUS!
He is our role model. If a black kid from a single parent home can do it, so can we.
#YesWeCan
What did our founding fathers do when they were faced with an irresponsible leader? (hint: King George III)
We rise in protest and fight back! Tens of thousands gathered in Copley Square in Boston today!
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/01/29/live-rallies-coply-against-...
President Obama told us what was needed! Run for office. Get involved at the grassroots level--just as he did! Obama came from a single mother home and rose by getting involved. Community organizer in South Chicago, state representative, then US Senator, then POTUS!
He is our role model. If a black kid from a single parent home can do it, so can we.
#YesWeCan
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By your reasoning the Syrians should stay and fight for their country. If so, I agree.
Maybe this time the censors will allow it to be posted:
Come on, Judge, if they stay in their home country or are sent back to same, for the moment, that's "irreparable harm”. (Are they escapees going back to prison--i.e., their respective Muslim countries?)
That's a bit over-the-NYT-Liberal Imperialist-top, even for a Schumer recommended, Obama appointed judge.
What Hillary did to the DNC Politburo is more in line with “irreparable harm.” Why all the protests, perhaps.
Come on, Judge, if they stay in their home country or are sent back to same, for the moment, that's "irreparable harm”. (Are they escapees going back to prison--i.e., their respective Muslim countries?)
That's a bit over-the-NYT-Liberal Imperialist-top, even for a Schumer recommended, Obama appointed judge.
What Hillary did to the DNC Politburo is more in line with “irreparable harm.” Why all the protests, perhaps.
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The reason your comment wasn’t posted wasn’t “censors.”
Your comment doesn’t make any sense! “DNC Politburo??”
The election was over nearly three months ago. Move on.
Your comment doesn’t make any sense! “DNC Politburo??”
The election was over nearly three months ago. Move on.
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Just unbelievable, the cruelty and ignorance and of this President and his administration.
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Haven't seen New Yorkers this worked up about Muslim-country immigration since 9/11. Time, it seems, does that.
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The ignorant in chief picked on the wrong Muslim countries, if he was worried about 9-11. What about Saudi Arabia, the country of most of the 9-11 perpetrators. Oh, that's right, your boy has business dealings there.
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“If they’re vetted it’s a routine process they’ll go through,” she said. “If they’re not dangerous, if they’re not a threat, then they will be disposed of in a case-by-case — their situations will be handled on a case-by-case basis.” Kellyanne Conway on Fox news. Disposed?
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Kellyanne, if she had any sense of self-worth at all, would resign. Every time she opens her mouth she is an embarrassment to the American people, let alone herself.
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We need to have tighter border controls and have better enforcement of immigration policies. We need to send back illegal immigrants. We also do not need a Londonistan in our midst. Look at what is happening to countries that have accepted refugees. I am opposed to open arms immigration and porous borders. I am also opposed banning certain people. Surely there is a middle ground. Stop illegal immigration. Fix the problems in legal immigration.
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@Bob
“porous borders?”
There is a 40 year LOW of folks coming North across the Mexico-USA borders. More of a negative flow now.
It takes 2-3 YEARS of extreme vetting for these Syrian refugees to come to the USA. It’s embarrassing. Canada is accepting tens of thousands. We brought in maybe 8,000 to 10,000 TOTAL.
These are refugees. They are escaping certain death from the barrel bombs and chemical warfare that Assad is dropping on his own people. 400,000 people have died in Syria--innocent women, children. One out of every two Syrians is “displaced.” That means they are living in limbo in tent cities or trying to escape both Assad and Putin’s bombs and Al-Qaeda.
Quit watching Fox News. Watch 60 minutes special on the vetting these people are put through by our 22 agencies in Homeland Security.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-the-u-s-screens-syrian-refugees/
It’s free online. You won’t have to read--the 60 minutes people will explain it to you.
“porous borders?”
There is a 40 year LOW of folks coming North across the Mexico-USA borders. More of a negative flow now.
It takes 2-3 YEARS of extreme vetting for these Syrian refugees to come to the USA. It’s embarrassing. Canada is accepting tens of thousands. We brought in maybe 8,000 to 10,000 TOTAL.
These are refugees. They are escaping certain death from the barrel bombs and chemical warfare that Assad is dropping on his own people. 400,000 people have died in Syria--innocent women, children. One out of every two Syrians is “displaced.” That means they are living in limbo in tent cities or trying to escape both Assad and Putin’s bombs and Al-Qaeda.
Quit watching Fox News. Watch 60 minutes special on the vetting these people are put through by our 22 agencies in Homeland Security.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-the-u-s-screens-syrian-refugees/
It’s free online. You won’t have to read--the 60 minutes people will explain it to you.
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What Trump has done, stopping people in the middle of flights coming over with green cards and legal immigrants wait is just unconscionable. You say send back illegals. Send them back where? Some of their countries are gone. Syria is literally blown to dirt, but we don't want to help. A side note:As of yesterday, Canada is going to let everyone in.
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Senate passed Immigration Reform Act of 2013 68-32. House refused to vote on that legislation.
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The Disrupter-in-Chief says things are going alond very nicely, very nicely indeed. At the same time, Bannon is telling supporters that they should ignore "the Hysteria from the left", and I suppose by extension the "dishonest media" who are acting as the opposition party and spreading fake news. Conway seems to have a permanent seat at Fox News whose ratings could not be higher. How do you get through to frightened Americans who are buying into the Trump narrative? Just wait until this issue hits the Supreme Court with Trump's new pick yet to be named.
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I am more than baffled that these kinds of executive orders are taking place in the bastion of democracy. I am at my wits end thinking of what to do. What do you do when your country is being taken over by an authoritarian? By a madman? Seem like a bad dream. I am asking my friends who have lived under authoritarian rule and their answers are scary. Wake up America,-- more than ever, the job of the media cannot be any clearer. This battle for America's soul is going to be won by people of good will, legally and politically. Citizens, don't get too comfortable in your little world or comfortable surburbs. Time to decide who we are as Americans and as a civilized nation. Trump cannot pull us to the gutters where he belongs.
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You want to do something? Get out of your bubble and go protest! If women could protest in Antarctica last Saturday OUTSIDE, you can go to your town center..Hold up a sign.
#Muslimban #Nevermypresident
#Muslimban #Nevermypresident
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Yes yes yes. Start contacting your media outlets, your newspapers, your politicians who are listening. That's what I am doing with others. What other choice do we have?
We also have to organize and protest.
What is President Obama thinking right now? He is missed greatly!!
We also have to organize and protest.
What is President Obama thinking right now? He is missed greatly!!
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You left wing nuts are hilarious. Where was the outrage when Obama banned Iraqi refugees and it ended up allowing the assasination of an Iraqi interpreter because his visa was denied. Or when Jimmy Carter banned all Iranians because of the Islamic take over of Iran? Tears of hypocrisy!! And no the immigration act of 1965 didn't overrule the presidents authority to ban anyone entering the U.S. given to him/her from the immigration act of 52. Learn U.S. Code. It has to be specifically repealed such has the permanent ban of homosexuals was in 1990. Which was created and passed by Democrats. Hypocrites one and all.
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Yes, where are all those crowd-size comparisons between the protests of Obama's ban and Trump's?
Never mind that Obama banned refugees only after bomb makers had entered our country. That's what it took to get Obama to act. That's a bit late by my calculations.
Never mind that Obama banned refugees only after bomb makers had entered our country. That's what it took to get Obama to act. That's a bit late by my calculations.
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Is none of this behavior odd to you? Why not ban Saudi Arabians from coming here now with this order? That's where a lot of the 911 terrorists came from. What will it take for you to realize there is something not right with Trump?
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President Obama halted Iraqi immigration because it was found that our own country failed to link collected fingerprint data with a database that is used by the Departments of state and homeland security to deny entry to known terrorists and criminals. That failure allowed entry of over 100 very dangerous Iraqis. The agencies needed time to get the info available for sane decisionmaking.
Certainly there are times when "bans" are needed based on events and facts. So show the facts that this ban is based on.
From abcnews about the ban in 2011:
"We need to take this as a case study and draw the right lessons from it, and not just high-five over this," said retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero, who headed the military's Joint IED Defeat Organization until last May. "How did a person who we detained in Iraq -- linked to an IED attack, we had his fingerprints in our government system -- how did he walk into America in 2009?"
Barbero is credited with leveraging the Kentucky case to help the FBI get funding to create a new state of the art fingerprint lab focused solely on its IED repository in a huge warehouse outside Washington. The new FBI lab assists counterterrorism investigations of suspected bombmakers and IED emplacers and looks for latent prints on 100,000 IED remnants collected over the past decade by the military and stored in the vast TEDAC warehouse.
Certainly there are times when "bans" are needed based on events and facts. So show the facts that this ban is based on.
From abcnews about the ban in 2011:
"We need to take this as a case study and draw the right lessons from it, and not just high-five over this," said retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero, who headed the military's Joint IED Defeat Organization until last May. "How did a person who we detained in Iraq -- linked to an IED attack, we had his fingerprints in our government system -- how did he walk into America in 2009?"
Barbero is credited with leveraging the Kentucky case to help the FBI get funding to create a new state of the art fingerprint lab focused solely on its IED repository in a huge warehouse outside Washington. The new FBI lab assists counterterrorism investigations of suspected bombmakers and IED emplacers and looks for latent prints on 100,000 IED remnants collected over the past decade by the military and stored in the vast TEDAC warehouse.
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Are we not a DEMOCRACY with a system of checks and balances. Where are those now that we are in dire need? Why do we let a megalomaniac wreak havoc on our country (and the world)?
Why is there a posse of old white men (and yes, a few women) smirking behind Trump? Have they all lost their sense of service to this country over concern for their own paychecks + power?
Why is there a posse of old white men (and yes, a few women) smirking behind Trump? Have they all lost their sense of service to this country over concern for their own paychecks + power?
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Long-standing U.S. Immigration Law is being enforced again. The U.S. Constitution does NOT apply to Aliens. The U.S. Constitution is NOT a Global Treaty.
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US immigration law specifically prohibits bans based on national origin, religion, and/or race. This order is not enforcing the law - it's flouting it.
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But the Constitution DOES apply to this President. Look at the order. From a legal point of view, he is "establishing" Christian religion by prioritizing immigrants according to their religion. (See Sections 5(b) and 5(e) of the order.
And the Order is just bloody stupid from the point of view of world politics. The order trashes the foundations of our country as a beacon of freedom to the world's oppressed. And while it is true that foreign nationals do not have the same rights as citizens in every respect, you are wrong that they do not have any rights. Look at the Constitution. It refers to PERSONS. Think about what you are asserting - it runs contrary to every fundamental political, legal and social principle that this country has stood for.
And the Order is just bloody stupid from the point of view of world politics. The order trashes the foundations of our country as a beacon of freedom to the world's oppressed. And while it is true that foreign nationals do not have the same rights as citizens in every respect, you are wrong that they do not have any rights. Look at the Constitution. It refers to PERSONS. Think about what you are asserting - it runs contrary to every fundamental political, legal and social principle that this country has stood for.
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The US Constitution is not a Bible and Trump is no God, although he feels like he can decide who lives and dies and people like you finds justification in th Constitution.
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Why? Why punish people who have committed the actions required to come to America, some of them taking 2 years to finish the requirements? Are we such cowards that we don't believe our state department after it has concluded that they have verified the safety of the person to enter and live in America ? Who then can we trust to clear anyone to come into the United States. Trump is in way over his head, way beyond his abilities, way beyond his understanding, and way beyond our patience. He's obviously dumb as a rock and twice as ugly.
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Why you ask?
It's what Bullies do and the more you appease them,..the more they Bully.
Too many rather give up their Lunch $$$.
It's what Bullies do and the more you appease them,..the more they Bully.
Too many rather give up their Lunch $$$.
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This stay appears to only cover 100-200 people stuck in airports but the press is making it sound like the entire executive order has a stay--which it does not.
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Yes, this is alll the Press's Fault:):)
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There is so much about the press coverage that is incomplete it is mind boggling. There are stays in three jurisdictions other than NY, which seem very narrower than the NY stay but none of void the EO or prevention of people boarding flights in the first place. Even the NYT headline on the front page of the electronic version as of this afternoon says REFUGEE ban is stayed. NOT. And the EO goes well beyond a refugees.
However, under law, permanent legal residents have some due process rights. It seems Trump is backpeddling on the green card bans because of this.
My understanding is a visa may be canceled at any time and CBP agents have great discretion in who is admitted into the country. Airlines are also fined if they allow passengers to board who have the wrong documentation (in the best of times). In a sense, the people that made it to the airports in the US are the best off. Pity the poor souls stranded in other nations who cannot get on flights and legally enter or re-enter. We are not talking undocumented folks here.
Another note, the number of refugees from ANYWHERE has been cut from 85,000 to 50,000. We should be aghast we have allowed only 85,000 refugees annually, pre-Trump.
Related note, we are banning Muslims from some countries (not ones with Trump businesses and real ISIS penetration).Remember the Irish Troubles?The viciousness of the IRA-a terrorist organization? We did not ban the Irish.
Consistency and compassion are not our strong suits.
However, under law, permanent legal residents have some due process rights. It seems Trump is backpeddling on the green card bans because of this.
My understanding is a visa may be canceled at any time and CBP agents have great discretion in who is admitted into the country. Airlines are also fined if they allow passengers to board who have the wrong documentation (in the best of times). In a sense, the people that made it to the airports in the US are the best off. Pity the poor souls stranded in other nations who cannot get on flights and legally enter or re-enter. We are not talking undocumented folks here.
Another note, the number of refugees from ANYWHERE has been cut from 85,000 to 50,000. We should be aghast we have allowed only 85,000 refugees annually, pre-Trump.
Related note, we are banning Muslims from some countries (not ones with Trump businesses and real ISIS penetration).Remember the Irish Troubles?The viciousness of the IRA-a terrorist organization? We did not ban the Irish.
Consistency and compassion are not our strong suits.
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human being,
Generally a good post, but google "IRA attacks in the US" and you will understand why we never banned the Irish.
Generally a good post, but google "IRA attacks in the US" and you will understand why we never banned the Irish.
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Ban the GOP clowns because the US is doomed. We don't need to assess the first 100 days of Trump's administration to know we are in for a very undemocratic four years with the megalomaniac. In one week's time, Trump has managed to violate the constitution, destroy our relationship with Mexico, abuse his power to build a discriminatory wall with plans for a 20% import tariff that would destroy the US economy/global trade, tax Americans for the wall and he has not yet tackled healthcare, which will be destroyed in the second week of office. Let's not forget he holds the nuclear codes and must be impeached before we lose our constitutional rights and lives. Tonights unconstitutional travesty was an affront to the fundamental values in our country. Our borders must be open to those seeking a new life with purpose, success and happiness in America.
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Nothing unconstitutional happened here. This order followed the letter of the law, same as when Obama issued the same order in January of 2016.
Also, the Constitution doesn't provide for or protect non-citizens.
Also, the Constitution doesn't provide for or protect non-citizens.
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Not to be funny, but open to be able to leave if we so choose. Since Canada is welcoming everyone now, I'm just waiting for a wall around our country.
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Wrong. Obama issued an order regarding people who behaved certain ways in certain countries. Trump has issues a blanket ban on all people from 7 countries - except if they're Christian. That is illegal under our law, which prohibits bans based on national origin, race, or religion. Look it up.
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Your newspaper mentioned a Dutch politician who approved of Trump's actions. Why didn't you say that this politician, Holland's Geert Wilders, is a far right ideologue. He is not just any politician. He is a bigot who uses hate speech and is a virulent racist.
The fact that you didn't elaborate on his views makes it sound as though you want to sell the idea that he is just a normal pol affirming Trump's actions. You surely know better. It is a lie of omission. Shame!
The fact that you didn't elaborate on his views makes it sound as though you want to sell the idea that he is just a normal pol affirming Trump's actions. You surely know better. It is a lie of omission. Shame!
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He may also become the leader of his country because the Dutch are becoming thoroughly sick of being told immigrants are good for their country (just like we've been told) and finding out when they get there that, many of them are not.
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Want to know of another pol who approved of this action? Obama, when he issued the same order in January of 2016...
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It was obviously not the same order from Obama. The current administration's followers don't have an ability to decern nuance, as evidenced by your comment.
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Where was your outrage when Obama issued the same order in January of 2016? Oh, that's right. Liberals are not capable of intellectual consistency, only selective outrage...
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Mustafa, I am a Jew and I will speak for you.
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Sorry Justin N. You are factually incorrect. It wasn't the SAME order. The order wasn't instituted to BAN citizens of those countries.
From nytimes.com, 2/16
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security on Thursday added three countries to a growing list that would prohibit people who have visited those nations in the past five years from entering the United States without a visa.
The new countries are Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The department indicated that other nations could be added.
The Obama administration previously announced changes to the visa-waiver program that would make it harder for travelers to enter the United States from Europe if they had dual citizenship from Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria, or had visited one of those countries in the last five years. The restrictions announced on Thursday would not apply to those with dual citizenship in Libya, Somalia or Yemen, the agency said.
The changes to the visa-waiver program come after the terrorist attacks in Paris on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people and wounded 368. Because the attackers were all European citizens who were eligible to receive visa waivers, some lawmakers and counterterrorism officials feared that terrorists could exploit the program and travel to the United States to commit similar attacks.
The travelers are not barred from the United States, but they will have to go through the more rigorous regular visa application process to enter the country.
From nytimes.com, 2/16
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security on Thursday added three countries to a growing list that would prohibit people who have visited those nations in the past five years from entering the United States without a visa.
The new countries are Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The department indicated that other nations could be added.
The Obama administration previously announced changes to the visa-waiver program that would make it harder for travelers to enter the United States from Europe if they had dual citizenship from Iran, Iraq, Sudan or Syria, or had visited one of those countries in the last five years. The restrictions announced on Thursday would not apply to those with dual citizenship in Libya, Somalia or Yemen, the agency said.
The changes to the visa-waiver program come after the terrorist attacks in Paris on Nov. 13 that killed 130 people and wounded 368. Because the attackers were all European citizens who were eligible to receive visa waivers, some lawmakers and counterterrorism officials feared that terrorists could exploit the program and travel to the United States to commit similar attacks.
The travelers are not barred from the United States, but they will have to go through the more rigorous regular visa application process to enter the country.
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Get rid of Trump. Impeach him now. He's only been potus a week and look what he's done. Pence is no bed of roses, of course, but the Orange one is like a ringleader that gets his "friends" by intimidating them to the point that they either have to side with him or risk his wrath. Get rid of the ringleader and maybe they'd behave in just normal irritating wingnut fashion.
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What, exactly has he done? Do elaborate.
Oh, you mean issuing the same immigration order that Obama did a year ago?
Oh, you mean issuing the same immigration order that Obama did a year ago?
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While the resistance is wonderful to see, the reality is that it is coming entirely from people who opposed Trump to begin with. In the last day or two, NYT published an article describing how happy Trump's supporters are with his "radical" and "powerful" moves. Those who oppose Trump should continue doing so as loudly as possible - however, those same individuals need to meaningfully turn their attention to how they can convince Trump's supporters that they, too, have much to lose with him as president.
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Good luck in trying to convince Trump supporters.
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Good point Megan.
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Not true. Leading opposition is coming from evangelicals and Christian Churches. There are also Republicans in the Congress and Senate who deenounced it.
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Americas best president Trump prevents most useful, intelligent and legal individuals, such as Stanford students, MIT scientists, legal refugees, Green Card holders working for years in the U.S. just because they are coming from Muslim countries. If keeping out the best of the best, skilled people and workers out of America is the nations interest the rest of the world should highly welcome those to work, research and invent in an other place. It's a warning for everyone to resist any right wing movement pretending to follow national interest with closed borders. Mr. Trump prepares Americas next industrial downfall. Well done, Mr. President!
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Not one single green card holder has been prevented from entering the US. Not one. And the majority of those 'intellectuals' don't stay here. They come for a free education and then take it back home...
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Free education Justin? I'm sure they would be surprised to hear that, since most foreign students pay out of state tuition at state schools.
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I am immigrant myself, I saw the positive sides as well as negative sides about immigrants. Not everyone is angel for sure, but I wish those refugee supporters can lay out plans of how are we going to accommodate large numbers of refugees before we advocate for " fast track" of those most vulnerable people!
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Nope. Let's go with an open door come one come all policy. That's really worked for the EU.
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Europe does vet refugees. But they are not the problem. People who committed terrorist attacks in France were French citizens.
Amelia- do you live in a different Europe than the one we read about? The terrorists are mostly citizens, BUT, who are their parents? Where did they come from? Why aren't they assimilated? They used their French citizenship to travel abroad, train w Isis and come back and kill your fellow citizens. You can't see ANY connection between letting Muslims into your country and thier kids killing you?? This reminds me of the European rape victim who wouldn't identify her attacker for fear of being labeled a racist.
First of all you keep calling him Mr. Trump! It's President Trump. Second of all why don't you all just stop complaining all the time and let the man do his job!! He's only been in office a week. Why is it no one ever complained when Obama did all of his midnight executive orders opening up the borders letting anyone come in? I notice the judge who is trying to help all of these people was put in by Obama. What a coincidence. Nobody is ever going to elect anyone in your party again as all of you keep making fools of yourselves because you haven't let up on President Trump since he was elected. The mainstream media never let anyone complain about Obama. At least they wouldn't report on it. All the voters in this country elected President Trump and he is keeping his promises and you all can't deal with that!! Because Obama never kept a promise in eight years in office.
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What are you talking about? The Republicans complained endlessly about Obama's executive orders. They never gave him a chance on anything, decided on - literally - the day of his inauguration that they would oppose anything he did, and then went on to dream up the birther nonsense. You have a very short memory.
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Actually, I simply call him Trump, just as I say Bowie or Dylan to refer to two iconic musical legends. That said, Trump will never deserve the high sense of honour most of our contemporaries accord these artists.
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Only a minority of voters voted for the new president. THAT MEANS MOST VOTERS did not want him to be president. He's horribly unfit for office, is a proven liar, right wing nut and is a DRAFT DODGER. He paid $25 MILLION to avoid a FRAUD CONVICTION, a FELONY. HE colluded with russia to win the presidency and REFUSES to release his tax records. He's a traitor.
He needs to be removed from office.
IMPEACH!
He needs to be removed from office.
IMPEACH!
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Judge Donnelly deserves thanks from every citizen who values democracy.
President Trump's disassociation from democratic values should surprise no one. His campaign performances should have led all of us to expect his vengeful tweets, his zany pronouncements, his executive "disorders" and his unique brand of mis-governance.
The irreality of President Trump's first week in office should disturb even the most benighted among us. If Trump's misdirection, lies, and inconsistencies do not bother you, it is simply because you have bought into his delusional "alt-reality".
Donald Trump lives in a truth-free, fact-free, post-post-modern world--the world NOT of "truthiness", but rather of "falsiness". For this Plutocrat in Chief, there are no facts, only surreal interpretations--manipulative interpretations which he spins out on a reflexive spur of the moment, audience-centered basis.
None of the rules that applied to reflective politicians and citizens of an earlier age--an age in which people believed in reasoned debate with reference to publicly accessible factual evidence--apply to him.
This Id-driven narcissist dwells in a world all his own--in a megalomaniacal dream-play.
It is his irreality, Republican congressional Trump enablers and GOP rank-and-file Trump supporters. You are welcome to it. As President Trump's credibility totally crumbles, so will your own.
President Trump's disassociation from democratic values should surprise no one. His campaign performances should have led all of us to expect his vengeful tweets, his zany pronouncements, his executive "disorders" and his unique brand of mis-governance.
The irreality of President Trump's first week in office should disturb even the most benighted among us. If Trump's misdirection, lies, and inconsistencies do not bother you, it is simply because you have bought into his delusional "alt-reality".
Donald Trump lives in a truth-free, fact-free, post-post-modern world--the world NOT of "truthiness", but rather of "falsiness". For this Plutocrat in Chief, there are no facts, only surreal interpretations--manipulative interpretations which he spins out on a reflexive spur of the moment, audience-centered basis.
None of the rules that applied to reflective politicians and citizens of an earlier age--an age in which people believed in reasoned debate with reference to publicly accessible factual evidence--apply to him.
This Id-driven narcissist dwells in a world all his own--in a megalomaniacal dream-play.
It is his irreality, Republican congressional Trump enablers and GOP rank-and-file Trump supporters. You are welcome to it. As President Trump's credibility totally crumbles, so will your own.
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So it was OK when Obama issued the same order in January of 2016? It was perfectly democratic then?
And there is nothing honorable or democratic about an appointed judge circumventing the law by arbitrarily refusing to apply a democratically approved law without any proof presented that it has violated ANY provisions of the law.
And there is nothing honorable or democratic about an appointed judge circumventing the law by arbitrarily refusing to apply a democratically approved law without any proof presented that it has violated ANY provisions of the law.
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I suspect we are about to see what kind of man Chief Justice Roberts truly is. Trump's executive orders are pushing the boundaries of executive authority and the courts will be tasked with holding them. I can only imagine Trump's twitter rage if the Supreme Court invalidates his order, and given the 4-4 makeup of the court, I will be looking to see if the "conservative" Chief Justice, who clames to protect individual liberties against government overreach, has the courage to draw the line for Trump.
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This order doesn't push any boundary. It is a specifically enumerated Presidential power, the same as it was when Obama issued the same order in January of 2016...
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This should be 8-0 against Trump. There's no justification for it and no reasonable explanstion for the motives. The idea was bad and the implementation was worse. 100% incompetence.
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Unfortunately we saw in 2000 that the SCOTUS was politicized. In 2016 it was the FBI. If we do not resist the military will be next and then we'll know what it is like to be refugees.
People-
It's Donald Trump for God's sake!
Third rate businessman, small fry in NYC real estate developer seen as a shnook by his peers, self promoting nobody who never reads and has no knowledge of history or even his new responsibilities.
A man who started a phoney University (!) to willfully take people for their money 5, 10 grand at a time.
Said he "hand picked" the professors but couldn't identify them when shown pictures at his deposition!
Who paid $25 million in restitution for that crime.
People!
It's dopey fraud, crass Donald Trump!
Come on now!
Let's stop this nonsense!
It's Donald Trump for God's sake!
Third rate businessman, small fry in NYC real estate developer seen as a shnook by his peers, self promoting nobody who never reads and has no knowledge of history or even his new responsibilities.
A man who started a phoney University (!) to willfully take people for their money 5, 10 grand at a time.
Said he "hand picked" the professors but couldn't identify them when shown pictures at his deposition!
Who paid $25 million in restitution for that crime.
People!
It's dopey fraud, crass Donald Trump!
Come on now!
Let's stop this nonsense!
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Very nicely said!!
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Similar was said of Obama and he and the dems surrendered our sovereignty and traditions to the strangling society of the left. But, because they were allowed to circumvent the law and state representatives, they greased the tracks for the next tyrant! It just so happened that this tyrant ...... is not a leftist.
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This series of executive orders on the part of an individual afflicted with malignant narcissism will speed up his dismissal from this high office. Until that happens the country will be in mortal danger.
It is heartening to see our citizenry in peaceful protest. Apathy fades when survival is threatened.
It is heartening to see our citizenry in peaceful protest. Apathy fades when survival is threatened.
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Do you realize the travel ban was imposed by Obama initially? Why didn't you complain then?
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Why didn't Trump ban people from countries that are places where he has business interest?
If he was truly keeping his word to his voters, then why ban only from non-business interest countries.
I would wish, that the Trump supporters start looking at the mountain of evidence stacking up against this this selfish un-american person.
Truth does not come from people, it comes from facts.
If he was truly keeping his word to his voters, then why ban only from non-business interest countries.
I would wish, that the Trump supporters start looking at the mountain of evidence stacking up against this this selfish un-american person.
Truth does not come from people, it comes from facts.
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Judges need to read the law.
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182
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The question then becomes the validity of the Presidential finding. The courts MUST not simply defer to the President and conclude that he is acting in good faith. There is NO reason (certainly none has been given) to believe that the people who have been blocked at the airports or stranded abroad posed ANY real threat to this country. On the other hand, Trump and his supporters are a clear and present danger to the health and long-term viability of the American polity. Time for a divorce, the red states are an ongoing drag on economic and social progress. It is long past time that we stop subsidizing them.
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Remember, September 11th? Could it happen again? Yes.
Why is trying to prevent another similar or worse event somehow wrong?
When it does happen, (and it inevitably will), there will be so many screaming for stronger border protections and the like. Open, porous borders are not prudent.
We thought the Patriot Act was unconstitutional, wait and see what will instituted after another 9/11 type of attack. We must try as hard as possible to not let another cataclysm terrorist attack under Trump's watch. Seriously.
Why is trying to prevent another similar or worse event somehow wrong?
When it does happen, (and it inevitably will), there will be so many screaming for stronger border protections and the like. Open, porous borders are not prudent.
We thought the Patriot Act was unconstitutional, wait and see what will instituted after another 9/11 type of attack. We must try as hard as possible to not let another cataclysm terrorist attack under Trump's watch. Seriously.
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Denying legal residents who have green cards is not protecting us. Denying refugees who gave gone through years of vetting only to land at the airport and be detained, is not protecting us. No refugee has ever committed a terrorist act in the U.S.
If his intention was to protect us from terrorism why aren't Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Lebanon, and UAE on the list? No terrorist acts have been committed by anyone from the 7 countries listed in the ban, yet the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The reason those 4 countries aren't on the list? Oh look at that, Trump has hotels and business dealings in those 4 countries. So his argument that this is about keeping out terrorism is a lie. The fact that he's giving priority to Christians makes it clear this is about religious discrimination, he's just trying to disguise it as anti-terrorism. Oh and lets not forget the terrorist acts committed by white male Christians in this country.
If his intention was to protect us from terrorism why aren't Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Lebanon, and UAE on the list? No terrorist acts have been committed by anyone from the 7 countries listed in the ban, yet the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The reason those 4 countries aren't on the list? Oh look at that, Trump has hotels and business dealings in those 4 countries. So his argument that this is about keeping out terrorism is a lie. The fact that he's giving priority to Christians makes it clear this is about religious discrimination, he's just trying to disguise it as anti-terrorism. Oh and lets not forget the terrorist acts committed by white male Christians in this country.
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He would milk such an event for all it is worth. The military-industrial-financial complex would be in seventh heaven should such a catastrophe be provoked again.
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IF an attack occurs when Trump is in office, we ALL will be severely affected by the aftermath or blow back of his over reactive, highly powerful restrictive edicts and laws. It will make the Patriot act look and seem toothless or weak.
We should make EVERY effort to NOT let, foment, allow, surrender or experience a 9/11 style of attack to occur under his watch.
The future is not what it used to be.
And always, Remember 9/11.
We should make EVERY effort to NOT let, foment, allow, surrender or experience a 9/11 style of attack to occur under his watch.
The future is not what it used to be.
And always, Remember 9/11.
What I appreciate about the judge's ruling is that there are separations of power and three branches of government. i learned this in elementary school. it doesn't seem that The President and many of his supporters understand that.
The executive order is not only unconstitutional but frankly shameful.
What's also shameful is that the order was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day
The executive order is not only unconstitutional but frankly shameful.
What's also shameful is that the order was issued on Holocaust Remembrance Day
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There is nothing unconstitutional about the order. It follows US Code to the letter, the same as it did when Obama issued the same order in January of 2016.
Also, the Constitution doesn't provide for or protect non-citizens, so any claim of unconstitutionality is ridiculous.
Also, the Constitution doesn't provide for or protect non-citizens, so any claim of unconstitutionality is ridiculous.
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Louise, you do know that President Obama issued executive orders banning visas from certain Middle Eastern countries, right?
If President Obama's order banning visas from Iraq were constitutional, then who do you think President Trump's order is unconstitutional?
If President Obama's order banning visas from Iraq were constitutional, then who do you think President Trump's order is unconstitutional?
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Do not only be afraid of Trump. Also be afraid of all those willing to acts on his illegal executive orders. That should scare all of us much more.
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Kathleen, if President Obama's order banning visas from Iraq were legal, then who do you think President Trump's order is illegal?
Impeach and replace. Trump is unfit. This Executive Disorder is a disgrace.
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Hmmm.... I voted for Trump, and I am surprised by the magnitude and frequency of these Executive Orders. First, I thought that he was going to work with Congress on these issues. Executive Orders are too disruptive. Secondly, I would think that he would have the vetting rules laid out before signing an executive order. All of this poor planning and extreme execution does nothing for making people feel secure, and it threatens the economy. It destabilizes it. NOT happy about this. It is becoming very waring. Time to drop out and stop working because it doesn't do us any good any longer.
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I'm actually surprised, you're surprised.
He's been like this since the 1980s.
He's been like this since the 1980s.
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It's no wonder Trump said he loves the ignorant and uninformed.
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witch hunts in the 17th century, slavery, interment of japanese americans during ww2, gun craziness, mccarthyism, vietnam, iraq, cambodia, bay of pigs, medical experiments on african americans, backing or installing horrendous governments in central america, chile, greece, argentina, iran, brazil, payoffs to the prime minister of japan in the 1970s, tapping the chancellor of germany's phone--and more--and now donald trump...the usa disgraces itself on regular basis, yet we still hear the 'shining city on the hill' nonsense said with straight faces by the 'folks'....
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Somehow, I went to bed on Friday night, and woke up on Saturday in a different country. I'm not sure what country it is, exactly, but it is not the United States of America, and neither are the people who voted this monster into office Americans.
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And Watch Trump bellow with indignation when American tourists overseas get molested or abused by foreigners fed up with American imperialism and racism.
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Trump is acting like a madman, busy alienating our friends and making our enemies hate us even more. But it's going to take a lot more than one day of protest to get that dangerous ignorant fool and his cabinet of horrors out of the White House. For the first time in my life, I am concerned that the executive branch of the federal government is under the sway of a hostile foreign power and the influence of a racist movement which goes by the name "Alt-Right".
Is there anybody in the House or the Senate not the least bit concerned? Or is everyone a traitor now? It seems we are living in cowardly times.
Is there anybody in the House or the Senate not the least bit concerned? Or is everyone a traitor now? It seems we are living in cowardly times.
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Consider how Bannon qualifies the press which he disdains : 'the opposition'. This provocation speaks volumes for his fears that a Bernstein/Woodward team of today will manage to find the truth about Trump's ties to the Kremlin for a variety of illicit and possibly traitorous reasons. I hope that the press succeeds in overcoming its chilling effect to unearth the truth for the American public who deserves to know EVERYTHING about the most scandalous presidency since that of Richard Nixon's!
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AE.
I'm afraid your faith in our Fourth Estate is sadly misplaced. Journalism has a been a blow-off major in our universities for a long time, populated exclusively by those who couldn't hack any other program.
They've been trying to defeat Trump since he first became a candidate, without any notable success. It isn't likely they will succeed now. They will continue to try, because they hate him more than anyone, but hope that they will prevail is minimal.
I'm afraid your faith in our Fourth Estate is sadly misplaced. Journalism has a been a blow-off major in our universities for a long time, populated exclusively by those who couldn't hack any other program.
They've been trying to defeat Trump since he first became a candidate, without any notable success. It isn't likely they will succeed now. They will continue to try, because they hate him more than anyone, but hope that they will prevail is minimal.
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I've started and restarted this comment several times because I can't figure out how to express my anger and shame. The executive order is insane and exceptionally cruel. It's an act that erodes the bedrock of values our country was built on. Thank you, ACLU, for fighting back.
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Did the ACLU fight back when President Obama issued an executive order banning visas from Iraq? Google it for yourself - don't take my word for his having issued the order, more than once I believe.
Impeach. Now.
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The NY Times editorial today: "Republicans in Congress who remain quiet or tacitly supportive of the ban should recognize that history will remember them as cowards." There is no reason to expect that history will sustain truth. The truth of the foxhole is eclipsed by the memoirs of generals. The truth is in the blood and fear in the lives of refugees, families and children, and their hopes invested in years of effort and delay waiting to reach our country. That truth in history, devalued or ignored as it is now by those in congress and in this country, will have worth only in our shame.
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New (TRUMP) version of the Inscription on the Statue of Liberty:
WE DONT WANT your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
WE DONT CARE ABOUT The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
DON'T SEND US the homeless, tempest-tost -- THEY CAN DROP DEAD.
DELETE: [ I lift my lamp beside the golden door!]
I TURN OUT MY LAMP AND SHUT THE DOOR.
WE DONT WANT your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
WE DONT CARE ABOUT The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
DON'T SEND US the homeless, tempest-tost -- THEY CAN DROP DEAD.
DELETE: [ I lift my lamp beside the golden door!]
I TURN OUT MY LAMP AND SHUT THE DOOR.
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Putin must have slept well last night. Trump is playing right into his hands. With all the hostility Trump's order of banning Muslims from this country has generated in the Arab world (not to mention the rest of the world), it's just a matter of time before Russia steps in and offers "help" to the Arab countries. And if I were them, I'd rather have Russia at my back than the US at this point.
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January 29 2017
A thousand ways to make America great again, and again - and then what if perceptions differ as they will and so goes the doctrine of a ruler knows what he means to say, to do and everyone just try be nice.
jja Manhattan, N. Y.
A thousand ways to make America great again, and again - and then what if perceptions differ as they will and so goes the doctrine of a ruler knows what he means to say, to do and everyone just try be nice.
jja Manhattan, N. Y.
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We need to put our money where our mouths are. All of our vented frustration and rants aren't going to make a bit of difference. Even our massive street protests will help only indirectly, by keeping people motivated.
The really productive action can only happen now in the courts, and later in the 2018 election. If you really want to do something to make a difference, donate generously to groups like the ACLU, which filed the lawsuit that led to this judge's blocking order.
We need to put our money where our mouths are. The billionaires are doing it and Trump is doing it and they're getting the results they want. We need to do the same.
The really productive action can only happen now in the courts, and later in the 2018 election. If you really want to do something to make a difference, donate generously to groups like the ACLU, which filed the lawsuit that led to this judge's blocking order.
We need to put our money where our mouths are. The billionaires are doing it and Trump is doing it and they're getting the results they want. We need to do the same.
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The really productive action can only happen now in the courts, and later in the 2018 election. If you really want to do something to make a difference, donate generously to groups like the ACLU, which filed the lawsuit that led to this judge's blocking order.
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These are temporary stays that will be overruled. You will be wasting your money
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
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These are temporary stays that will be overruled. You will be wasting your money
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
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J Jencks, check to see if the ACLU filed lawsuits when President Obama issued executive orders banning visas from certain countries. Or just Google "ABC news Obama + blocking visas from Iraq" in case you don't know President Obama did the same thing.....and for good reasons, by the way.
The good reasons:
"An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home -- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road.
As for vetting: "Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."
So much for vetting, right?
abc news - google it for yourself, please.
The good reasons:
"An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home -- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road.
As for vetting: "Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."
So much for vetting, right?
abc news - google it for yourself, please.
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What is really shocking is the legal, permanent residents of US, those who hold green cards, are being prevented from returning to this country. I mean, these are people who have the legal right to live permanently in the United States. Little did they know they would pay dearly for taking a vacation outside the country. That is beyond stopping refugees and people with valid visas.
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The older brother of the two Boston Bombers was reported to our State Department as having been radicalized during his visit to his homeland. He had a valid visa. He was vetted by our State Department as safe to return.
The rest is history.........the people who paid dearly for his return died or were maimed or severely injured, and those who loved them.
The rest is history.........the people who paid dearly for his return died or were maimed or severely injured, and those who loved them.
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There's another article about a spontaneous protest at the JFK Airport. No comment section. So I'll put it here.
Thank you Michael Moore and Mayor Cuomo for encouraging that protest. We need more leaders like you to participate.
Where is our DEM party leadership? They let us down in a huge way last Fall. There's this huge body of citizenry across America trying block the Trumpistas from creating a Fascist state. It's time now for some really committed senior DEMs to take the reins of the party and direct its resources towards supporting us.
Thank you to Senators Sanders and Chris Murphy (D-CT) for tweeting powerful messages of protest and justice yesterday.
Thank you Michael Moore and Mayor Cuomo for encouraging that protest. We need more leaders like you to participate.
Where is our DEM party leadership? They let us down in a huge way last Fall. There's this huge body of citizenry across America trying block the Trumpistas from creating a Fascist state. It's time now for some really committed senior DEMs to take the reins of the party and direct its resources towards supporting us.
Thank you to Senators Sanders and Chris Murphy (D-CT) for tweeting powerful messages of protest and justice yesterday.
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Perhaps the Democrat party leaders didn't protest when President Obama issued executive orders banning visas from Iraq........and didn't want reporters asking them why they didn't protest when President Obama did the same thing.
judges and/or law enforcement should be allowed to disregard an executive order by the President! They should face penalties or jail themselves if they do not comply..
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judges and/or law enforcement should be allowed to disregard an executive order by the President! They should face penalties or jail themselves if they do not comply..
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No, they would be breaking the law. Presidents clearly have the power to do this. In fact Obama did this in 2011
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
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No, they would be breaking the law. Presidents clearly have the power to do this. In fact Obama did this in 2011
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
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Mkfrmsd,
Somehow I doubt you were saying this after any of Obama's 275 EOs. Or Clinton's 370.
Somehow I doubt you were saying this after any of Obama's 275 EOs. Or Clinton's 370.
I call on righteous, truly patriotic Republicans: AWAKEN! from your 'nap'. Since you have the majority, ACT to defend our nation from this cancer on our Republic.
A few hours ago I woke from a rare evening nap, likely after becoming so agitated with the news of Trump's ban of entry from many Muslim nations ( and not from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan (the supposed) culprits of 9-11 (though incontrovertible evidence indicates the 9-11 story was fake, a false flag op executed by traitors to keep profiting from insurance and the war machine).
My husband had loudly exclaimed a Federal Judge put a temporary stop to protect (some) of the victims and I wept, feeling keenly the suffering, chaos and fear he has caused the world over - from the people of Mexico, Muslims, to the frailest Granny afraid to lose her medical care...
only to then read there is now a 'propaganda Ministry 'Trump TV 'broadcasting 'alternative facts' from the White House!
p.s.
Bill Maher recently decided to recite some good things Trump did.....perhaps that will help ease his sense of persecution (albeit earned). I'm sure you can find a few.....
Listen carefully, praise often and criticize never...
A few hours ago I woke from a rare evening nap, likely after becoming so agitated with the news of Trump's ban of entry from many Muslim nations ( and not from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan (the supposed) culprits of 9-11 (though incontrovertible evidence indicates the 9-11 story was fake, a false flag op executed by traitors to keep profiting from insurance and the war machine).
My husband had loudly exclaimed a Federal Judge put a temporary stop to protect (some) of the victims and I wept, feeling keenly the suffering, chaos and fear he has caused the world over - from the people of Mexico, Muslims, to the frailest Granny afraid to lose her medical care...
only to then read there is now a 'propaganda Ministry 'Trump TV 'broadcasting 'alternative facts' from the White House!
p.s.
Bill Maher recently decided to recite some good things Trump did.....perhaps that will help ease his sense of persecution (albeit earned). I'm sure you can find a few.....
Listen carefully, praise often and criticize never...
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OMG a 9/11 truther!
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Were you this agitated when President Obama issued an executive order banning visas from certain Middle Eastern countries, most recently visas from Iraq?
When will we see more Republican officials stand up and protest the outrageous actions of President Trump? In one week they have had plenty of opportunities.
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Republicans didn't protest when President Obama used the section of the law that allowed him to ban visas from Iraq several times. Why would they protest when President Trump uses the same section of the law to do the same thing?
because it is not the same thing. obama's order complied with due process and the establishment clause. trump's does not. are people really that ignorant? go back to school!
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This is just a temporary stay. Trump will prevail.
Section 212(e) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Section 212(e) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
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Exactly: the same section 212(e) that President Obama used when he blocked visas from all aliens or any class of aliens. President 44's executive orders held, and President 45's executive orders will hold.
It appears liberals don't know that President Obama used the same law.
It appears liberals don't know that President Obama used the same law.
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I do NOT understand, that P. Ryan accept this. And I hopes for all Americans, that rest og the World Will boycot US goos's and tourism.
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Listen to Stings song about an Englishman in New York, apply it to any other national. Then think... In this tiny world there are a few bad people, far less than 1% however, Populist leaders use these tragic few to boost their own power and popularity. This immergration policy, will never keep people safe, rather we should look to what we can do to relieve the fear, hate and inequalities the world over. What's so special about America that requires you to turn your backs when the solution is more togetherness the world over. And not only in trade as some would have us believe; people matter, poverty
matters, looking after each other matters, (not just those you assimilate with). Sorry this makes me so upset, that humans can be so .... .. and leaders fail abjectly in there global responsibilities.
matters, looking after each other matters, (not just those you assimilate with). Sorry this makes me so upset, that humans can be so .... .. and leaders fail abjectly in there global responsibilities.
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Couldn't agree more!
Well, now the court gave muslim terrorist a window of opportunity to get more of their recruiters and instigators into the US. Court ruling seems odd because Trump was not refusing those who qualified just trying to increase the vetting to screen out the terrorists. Should we not protect Americans in America? Do you leave your doors unlocked 24/7? Do you let any person into your house who comes to the front door? Especially someone whop is a member of a religious group whose leaders have vowed death to you?
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Permanent residents and people with long term visas are being detained. We have the most stringent immigration policies that we've ever had, and the people who've passed all of those checks are still being detained or rejected.
Dear Nancy. Please get your facts straight, and I am not referring to the "alternative facts" being fed to you by the administration. By "those who qualified", do you mean those coming from a country where Trump has business interests?
Who let Timothy McVeigh in?
Remember him?
That great "WHITE Patriot" who bombed the Oklahoma Federal Building
Until 9/11 the single worst terrorist attack on Americans
Where did the 19 Hijackers from 911 infamy come from?
Where is the Con Man's ban on Saudi Arabians?
Could it be he has "financial interests" in the countries NOT on the ban list.
I'm calling you and the Con Man on this...
Blatant racism in the guise of "National Security!
Remember him?
That great "WHITE Patriot" who bombed the Oklahoma Federal Building
Until 9/11 the single worst terrorist attack on Americans
Where did the 19 Hijackers from 911 infamy come from?
Where is the Con Man's ban on Saudi Arabians?
Could it be he has "financial interests" in the countries NOT on the ban list.
I'm calling you and the Con Man on this...
Blatant racism in the guise of "National Security!
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Don't expect any actions from al-Qaida or ISIS in the next few months: Trump is doing their work for them.
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Yeah, now they can concentrate all of their activities on California alone. After all California wants to be alone. So when that happens please don't expect the rest of the US to rush to your aid. You don't want us and guess what? We don't want you.
"Hey Racheed, now that the US has stopped you from coming into the US for terrorism, what are you going to do?"
"Not to worry my friend, we are all going to Disneyland, right in the heart of California."
"Hey Racheed, now that the US has stopped you from coming into the US for terrorism, what are you going to do?"
"Not to worry my friend, we are all going to Disneyland, right in the heart of California."
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Nixon made his fatal error on a Saturday as well.
Search "Nixon Saturday Night Massacre."
October 1973.
The public never gave him another chance.
Ten months later…gone.
Search "Nixon Saturday Night Massacre."
October 1973.
The public never gave him another chance.
Ten months later…gone.
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I give Trump ten weeks... maybe ten days, if we're lucky.
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We're banning refugees from Yemen, the people being slaughtered by our Saudi BFFs with their most recent 100 Billion $ load of US deep state weapons, with active targeting aid (lots of hospitals, schools, wedding & funeral groups along the way) & mid-flight re-furling, but none of those who we managed not to help murder are welcome in the US because unlike in Yemen, no terrorist random mass murders allowed.
Get it? Simple.
Get it? Simple.
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Watching the ACLU and all the attorneys fight for a stay against Trump's discriminatory executive order makes me proud to be a lawyer.
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Were you proud to be a lawyer when President Obama, a lawyer, wrote executive orders banning entry to the US by people with visas from Iraq? Or does this reflect your discriminatory feelings towards who writes such orders, legal orders within the power of the President, whether his last name is Obama or Trump?
Michael,
So you pretend that no lawyers work for Trump? They are all mercenaries, nothing more.
So you pretend that no lawyers work for Trump? They are all mercenaries, nothing more.
I can only hope this early fiasco leads to an early exit for thus despicable, self-absorbed person in the White House. What a bruise on our history, comparable to the WWII internment camps for Japanese Americans.
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Despicable? Self-absorbed? Weren't you won over by his uplifting inaugural speech, as well as his fantastic 'performance' at the CIA HQ last week?
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Trump has a obligation towards his own country first, his election promise is that he will deal firmly with immigration. He is mandated to implement his plan for his country.
Why should people migrate to other country, when God gave you birth in your country. Stay in your motherland and serve and protect your own country. If one moves to another country he becomes a beggar.
"Janani Janmabhumisca Svargadapi Gariyasi".
One’s mother and motherland are greater than the very heaven.
Most people seek the refuge on falsehood or ground if they have little love for their country they will give their life for it. Therefore they are not worthy of getting into other countries for immigration. Trump ask for three months to finalize new procedure, he has the right.
Why should people migrate to other country, when God gave you birth in your country. Stay in your motherland and serve and protect your own country. If one moves to another country he becomes a beggar.
"Janani Janmabhumisca Svargadapi Gariyasi".
One’s mother and motherland are greater than the very heaven.
Most people seek the refuge on falsehood or ground if they have little love for their country they will give their life for it. Therefore they are not worthy of getting into other countries for immigration. Trump ask for three months to finalize new procedure, he has the right.
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Oh yeah, so you are against immigration? If there is no immigration, our good old United States of America should be in the hands of the Native Americans!!!
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I am sickened by this president, by his denigration of American values. My grandfather came to this country with the morning in his eyes. Trump has painted America as bleak and dark. But we will rise. Message to trump and the sick republican congress:
We have become a nation of dissent. Get used to it.
We have become a nation of dissent. Get used to it.
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So, for the morning to be in his eyes he surely must have been looking back to see the things that he just left. Tell me, was he trying to bring those things here along with him because he understood now they worked? It seems that a lot of immigrants today do that. They hate the things they had in their nation that caused them to desire to leave and when given the opportunity, pack up all they can carry and bring all of it, good and bad, to the nation they fled to and then attempt to make it into the nation that they just escaped from.
'American carnage' sounds more like a heavy metal group than this rube's tone-deaf attempt to capture the understandable angst of the disinherited in the Rust Belt.
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Time for me to re-up my membership in the ACLU! We may--doubtless will--all need their help in the next couple of years (till T-Rex resigns, in disgrace).
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Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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And when that poem was penned, how long did immigrants remain on Ellis Island when they came and how many were returned? Funny when people like yourself look at the literature of the time but forget what was actually going on.
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Dave, funny how people like yourself don't realize that the ideal has always been worth living up to even it didn't match the reality of our history.
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Securing the border is long overdue but has not a thing in the world to do with harassing green card holders who are going about their entirely legal business. I applaud the goal but the execution was ham handed and crude. The administration should amend the order and not have to wait for a judge to step in.
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Remember the older brother of the Boston Marathon Bomb infamy? He had a green card. He had legally gone back to his country of origin and/or culture. There was a message from law enforcement in that country that he had been radicalized. He was vetted on re-entry and found to be no threat.
The bombs were already in planning stages. Three people died, many lost limbs and/or eyesight, several hundred injured.
Remember that?
The bombs were already in planning stages. Three people died, many lost limbs and/or eyesight, several hundred injured.
Remember that?
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Impeach Trump now!
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Would you recommend retroactively impeaching Obama for issuing the same orders blocking visa admissions from certain countries? He did it in 2011 and in 2016.
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Yes, let's do that Azalea, "retroactively" impeach a former President. Maybe Trump can do it by Executive Order.
From the world’s #1 pro-lifer: "It's hypocrisy to call yourself a Christian and chase away a refugee or someone seeking help . . . .” - Pope Francis
It is hypocrisy for Christians who said they voted for Trump for his pro-life stand, knowing that he will ignore the sufferings of those already born. Why do we value the lives of the unborn more than the lives of those already born?
I don’t blame Trump, the thrice-married adulterer who has no soul. I blame the Catholics/Christians in Congress who would not stand up to him. Paul Ryan, former altar boy, did you trade your soul for power?
It is hypocrisy for Christians who said they voted for Trump for his pro-life stand, knowing that he will ignore the sufferings of those already born. Why do we value the lives of the unborn more than the lives of those already born?
I don’t blame Trump, the thrice-married adulterer who has no soul. I blame the Catholics/Christians in Congress who would not stand up to him. Paul Ryan, former altar boy, did you trade your soul for power?
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You have to wonder what the tour guides at the Statue of Liberty have to tell all of the school children who visit now? Emma Lazarus is crying.
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She's crying? Didn't know she was still alive.
As a Jewish American born poet she probably wouldn't say anything. If she did the anti-Zionists of our nation probably wouldn't listen to her anyway. After all, she'd probably support Israel and that doesn't sit well with a lot of US Citizens today, for one reason or another.
As a Jewish American born poet she probably wouldn't say anything. If she did the anti-Zionists of our nation probably wouldn't listen to her anyway. After all, she'd probably support Israel and that doesn't sit well with a lot of US Citizens today, for one reason or another.
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It is imperative to know who we are and what we stand for. History will repeat itself as it always does. What will be next if this is accepted by the nation and the political system...
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A better world?
Always remember when our country was born there were British loyalists that were saying the very same thing that you are saying right now. Guess they were right and we never should have removed ourselves from British rule.
Always remember when our country was born there were British loyalists that were saying the very same thing that you are saying right now. Guess they were right and we never should have removed ourselves from British rule.
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Dave, based on that response, I would think you would be on the side opposed to Trump, since he is attempting to wield power like a king.
This is all too malovent and sickening for words.
I can think of one dangerous person -- holding a high office in America -- who was never "properly vetted" for his job.
Donald J. Trump.
I can think of one dangerous person -- holding a high office in America -- who was never "properly vetted" for his job.
Donald J. Trump.
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Funny. I have felt the same way about Obama for the past eight years, but I didn't have a breakdown or cause violence over it.
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Well, Dave, you could only have "felt" that way because you were too prejudiced against his skin color to open your eyes and ears and HEAR all the "vetting" he ENDURED.
And I emphasize that word, because no sitting president has EVER had to endure the unending humiliating questioning and disrespectful treatment he got from citizens like you for the entirely of those eight years. His "vetting" (and the hatefulness that inspired it) will always be a shameful footnote in our country's history.
And the 73 mllion who didn't vote for Trump (65844954 for Clinton + 7804213 for "Other"- 10 million MORE than voted for Mr. Trump) aren't having a breakdown. We're fighting tooth and nail to keep him from destroying our democracy!
And I emphasize that word, because no sitting president has EVER had to endure the unending humiliating questioning and disrespectful treatment he got from citizens like you for the entirely of those eight years. His "vetting" (and the hatefulness that inspired it) will always be a shameful footnote in our country's history.
And the 73 mllion who didn't vote for Trump (65844954 for Clinton + 7804213 for "Other"- 10 million MORE than voted for Mr. Trump) aren't having a breakdown. We're fighting tooth and nail to keep him from destroying our democracy!
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In a little over a week Trump has effectively started to erode our Democracy and place himself in a position as a dictator. Who would have expected his efficiency? Starting to feel that we are complicit by staying in the US.
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I see your point about complicity, but we have to stay and fight for what's right.
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I don't but you obviously do, so when are you leaving? Hey, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable so it is a compassionate question?
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How can you tell this is a GREAT move by Trump? NYT and the rest of MSM are against it . . .
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How can you tell this is a GREAT move by Trump? NYT and the rest of MSM are against it . .
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At least half the country sees this as a positive step to protect Americans and to put American interests first
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At least half the country sees this as a positive step to protect Americans and to put American interests first
It's a shame that the NYT doesn't carry an astrology column, I agree. Such an incomplete organ of the press, eh?
And the other half wanted to ignorantly maintain the corruption and status quo with Hillary. I'll take putting American Interests first for 22 billion if you don't mind. Considering what's wasted by our government in the past five decades, that's pretty cheap.
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Why Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen? If we are going to get technical, it was a majority of Saudis who flew the planes into the World Trade Center. It is the Saudis who refuse to stand up and take in refugees from the crisis in the Middle East that their men created. This refugee block is just a sham and circus created to distract the American people from the real dangers to their country: Trump and his power and money grab. Wait and see who will profit from the insane wall set to cost 12m a mile! Follow the money. There is corruption in the oval office. The tone at the top sets the tone for all whole government. The people need to rise up and take down this despot.
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21.19 Billion? Really that cheap? That's less than two new Ford class Aircraft carriers or 31 B-2 Bombers and a whole lot more efficient to operate and produce. So, when do we get started. One wall to prevent war or more weapons of war to be a deterrent? Take your pick. Doing nothing is not an option. That's been tried for the last 50 years and hasn't worked.
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Apparently two lady judges had the guts to face down the Donald. That's why we need more women in government. That's why we should have Hillary (and Bill) in the White House. Too bad we learn too late.
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You'll have to read up on Steve Bannon's ideology about female sexuality, how he considers women to be lascivious tramps in their youth until morphing into opportunistic cougars in their forties. Such an animalistic vision of women precluded any further participation of females in the Trump government, aside from Con Way....
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This is an outrageous situation.
~Forbidding entry to people already vetted.
~Targeting countries from which we have suffered no attacks, but not those countries that have produced terrorists who have attacked us, especially including Saudi Arabia.
~The unmistakable stench of a religious test.
~Even abandoning those who at great personal risk have helped us in our endless wars.
But I've decided he's doing it as a payoff to his voters, figuring the courts will block him. Then he can blame the courts for 'not protecting America!'
Fascism in America.
~Forbidding entry to people already vetted.
~Targeting countries from which we have suffered no attacks, but not those countries that have produced terrorists who have attacked us, especially including Saudi Arabia.
~The unmistakable stench of a religious test.
~Even abandoning those who at great personal risk have helped us in our endless wars.
But I've decided he's doing it as a payoff to his voters, figuring the courts will block him. Then he can blame the courts for 'not protecting America!'
Fascism in America.
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Completely legal and actually done by Obama on a smaller scale in 2011
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
8 USC 1182
(f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
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I hope that international student enrolment figures collapse at American universities. The usual haunts of foreign tourists empty and forlorn - let's see how GREAT Trump makes the American economy run when frightened foreigners start to treat today's United States with the same righteous contempt reserved for Apartheid period South Africa.
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We Europeans believed the presidency to become a chaos concerning international relations due to the lack of Trump's expertise, knowledge, manners etc.
But this? Putin has not even done anything and the US is already in shock...
But this? Putin has not even done anything and the US is already in shock...
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Nobody cares what Europeans think. And we certainly don't endanger our citizens due to your lack of intuition on this issue. If you want to ruin your home by inviting culture clashes and white censorship and castration then do it. Maybe ask yourself why Muslim countries aren't expected to assimilate whites, blacks, and Hispanics into their lands...? Now why is that? Why are North Africans allowed to engage in apartheid against white south Africans? Why aren't Asian nations accepting refugees and whites and blacks to 'diversify' their nations? These are important questions. So answer them please.
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Sure.
The United States of America was founded on the principles of The Enlightenment.
We are not a Muslim country or any other kind of religious-by-law country, aka theocracy.
We are in neither North Africa nor Asia.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
The United States of America was founded on the principles of The Enlightenment.
We are not a Muslim country or any other kind of religious-by-law country, aka theocracy.
We are in neither North Africa nor Asia.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
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When you Europeans can manage your own affairs in your own nations then you can get back to me and offer suggestions on how we might manage ours. Until you have done that, kindly keep your opinions to yourselves.
Say, how is that EU and immigration thing working out for you Europeans?
Incidentally, Putin is a Russian and an Asian, not a European. Just though I'd apprise you of that fact so you didn't say something ignorant.
Say, how is that EU and immigration thing working out for you Europeans?
Incidentally, Putin is a Russian and an Asian, not a European. Just though I'd apprise you of that fact so you didn't say something ignorant.
Apparently even airline crews operating flights in, are falling foul of this sudden new restriction...
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Airline crews do not make law or are even required to enforce it. They are, however, required to follow it. So what's your problem again?
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Says the Dept. of Homeland security: “[Trump's directive was] a first step towards re-establishing control over America’s borders and national security." This statement sends chills down my spine. I've lived in Hungary long enough to recognize the tools of dictator. Insist that a non-existent problem is real and then enact an extremist policy as a "solution" to it. In his delusional world, Trump surely expects gratitude (just as Orban does) but I am heartened to see thus far a large number of Americans ( I hope enough) are seeing through this nonsense. Keep up the fight -- it's what didn't happen in Hungary and why we are stuck with our dictator for a good long time.
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So, being Hungarian, what are your thoughts on George Soros who is at the root of much of this complaint? You do know his history against the Hungarian people during the NAZI occupation of your country don't you? So I'd really like your thoughts on this.
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"president" trump has demonstrated enormous scorn for the Constitution. Impeachment is the only reasonable response.
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There is absolutely nothing in the constitution that says we can't decide who comes here. Quite the contrary.
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Scorn of our Constitution? Don't you mean Obama? Where was your outrage then? We didn't impeach him and have him removed from office even though in my opinion we should have. Then perhaps we wouldn't have this problem today.
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I am beyond disgusted and sickened by this narcissistic megalomaniac's actions.Only one week has gone by and he is
playing with peoples lives...I feel heart broken for all the refugees
who have been legally cleared to enter USA ;and now are finding themselves enroute to America... being refused entry
because of their Nationality or Religion.What Trump is doing to
his country and the world is shameful and despicable!
playing with peoples lives...I feel heart broken for all the refugees
who have been legally cleared to enter USA ;and now are finding themselves enroute to America... being refused entry
because of their Nationality or Religion.What Trump is doing to
his country and the world is shameful and despicable!
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Americans will not be able to overcome this blight to their national image. Therein lies the double tragedy : Trump still has a massive bloc of supporters who support him without reserve. A disgrace.
That's OK Adagio, living so close to Canada I am disgusted and sickened by Canadian liberals like yourself who feel they can stick their noses into the business of US Citizens. I don't tell your citizens how they should run their nation so unless you want me to start you should probably keep your opinions to yourself eh? Don't get me started on the stupidity I see in the Canoks because that is a topic I can go on with for days without repeating myself. You get that way as a US Citizen living very close to the Canadian border and seeing first hand that Canada isn't the mecca that many Canadians believe that it is. So, you don't tell us how to run our nation and we won't tell you how to run yours. That's the civil thing to do. But if you want uncivil banter, just bring it on. We can accommodate that and respond to it as well.
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So what was the point of saying that the judge was nominated by Obama?
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To put into perspective the political motivations behind the judge's ruling. I'm also shocked that honesty was exercised in reporting on anything having to do with a Trump policy in this paper. The NYT is letting its guard down!!
Dave
Do you really need an explanation?
Do you really need an explanation?
This man displays in myriad ways signs and symptoms of severe mental disorders. When will someone have the gumption to address his sanity? Mr. Trump exhibits virtually no respect for our constitution, our values, traditions or protocol. Of course Mr. Putin would excitedly embrace such an unstable candidate. How much damage will Mr. Trump cause before he is appropriately medicated?
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The bigger question is what are the masked avengers like yourself going to do to upset American values and ideals? You say one thing and portray something else with your cute avatar.
Mike
You know for over 50 years I have been wondering why the Mexican people have tolerated their own corrupt government. I wonder what is the causative motive that makes a Mexican citizen desire to abandon the nation of his birth and illegally transport himself into the United States? So if you can tell me that then perhaps we can get together to make a positive difference where those people no longer wish to flee the nation of their birth and that will solve the problem. If you can't explain why they desire to come instead of repairing their own corrupt government then please do not offer me suggestions from Mexico as it's patently obvious that Mexican Citizens cannot control their own corrupt government so they feel motivated to abandon their nation and come here illegally for a better way of life. If they came legally I wouldn't have a problem. And please don't give me, 'it's to hard, the rules are difficult to deal with. 1) Look at the rules that people have to satisfy to legally immigrate into Mexico. 2) Other citizens of your nation have come legally so apparently it can be done. Are you telling me that you are not smart enough to know how to do it legally when others have been able to do it? Doesn't say much for you does it?
You know for over 50 years I have been wondering why the Mexican people have tolerated their own corrupt government. I wonder what is the causative motive that makes a Mexican citizen desire to abandon the nation of his birth and illegally transport himself into the United States? So if you can tell me that then perhaps we can get together to make a positive difference where those people no longer wish to flee the nation of their birth and that will solve the problem. If you can't explain why they desire to come instead of repairing their own corrupt government then please do not offer me suggestions from Mexico as it's patently obvious that Mexican Citizens cannot control their own corrupt government so they feel motivated to abandon their nation and come here illegally for a better way of life. If they came legally I wouldn't have a problem. And please don't give me, 'it's to hard, the rules are difficult to deal with. 1) Look at the rules that people have to satisfy to legally immigrate into Mexico. 2) Other citizens of your nation have come legally so apparently it can be done. Are you telling me that you are not smart enough to know how to do it legally when others have been able to do it? Doesn't say much for you does it?
This executive order is not a new immigration plan to thwart terrorism, but psychological warfare aimed at the entire world and the Muslim world in particular. Chaos, confusion, and fear are the order of the day. This is the hallmark of the Trump Administration.
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Impeach. The only action possible. Have we now realized the horrible mistake of allowing this monomanaical madman to have this power? IMPEACH NOW.
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I said that for 8 years of Obama, where were you then?
Thank you Judge Donnelly. This latest, and most sickening, action by the Current Occupant clearly reveals the pudgy, racist hands of Steven Bannon pulling his strings and that the Occupant himself is not only deranged but a threat to the nation's security. The Occupant and the minions groveling around him (including Ryan and McConnell) are now a clear and present danger, and should be removed from office.
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After every major stunt, there should be ANOTHER headline, side by side next to the main story, scrutinizing what ELSE was going on. Phone call with Putin? Diversion? We must to multitask and be vigilant from ALL angles in these absurd Orwellian/House of Cards/Black Mirror-ish times.
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Makes sense, cut off your own nose to spite your own face. Let's just drill some more holes in the bottom of our ship so we can all drown quicker.
New York: Our Statue of Liberty has welcomed how many to JFK Airport?
But not anymore!
Who would believe one man, the president of this United States, is responsible for betraying Our Lady Liberty? Our more than century old woman with a torch, who has met millions at our country's harbor, has been cursed today by the likes of Donald Trump.
What would our ancestors say?
I'm ashamed.
But not anymore!
Who would believe one man, the president of this United States, is responsible for betraying Our Lady Liberty? Our more than century old woman with a torch, who has met millions at our country's harbor, has been cursed today by the likes of Donald Trump.
What would our ancestors say?
I'm ashamed.
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Did they move the Statue of Liberty to JFK? Man, I've been away too long!
"What would our ancestors say?" Probably that we should have stopped way before the 3,000,000th resident.
"What would our ancestors say?" Probably that we should have stopped way before the 3,000,000th resident.
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Exactly. 325 million is far too many no matter where they from. Unfortunately the open borders crowd can't work a calculator so we march toward the paradise that is China.
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Mr. Trump...the world hates you; resign now!
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Luckily the presidency isn't decided by a world wide popularity contest.
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Trump : I hate you. We hate you. He/She hates you. They hate you.
There. Now you know how to conjugate the verb 'hate' in the present tense.
A relevant grammar lesson to be retained.
There. Now you know how to conjugate the verb 'hate' in the present tense.
A relevant grammar lesson to be retained.
No, I speak for the world and I want him to stay. Makes no more sense than your obviously stupid comment. The world doesn't speak for me nor should it speak for you. I speak for myself and you should do the same.
Born right after WW II, I have lived in gratitude that events like this
couldn't possibly happen here. After all, we are a constitutional
democracy. Please let those last two words be right.
couldn't possibly happen here. After all, we are a constitutional
democracy. Please let those last two words be right.
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The ban is temporary and I can't see people flying off the handle by labeling the ban as a ban against all Muslims. Clearly, it's not. ISIS carried out the concert hall murders in France with a terrorist who came in as a Syrian seeking asylum. He came in through Greece with false papers and took part in the carnage in France. Until we can get better vetting procedures for the refugees, screening this number of people will have to be more through. That's what this ban is all about. Tightening our security and borders. Nothing whatsoever wrong with it!
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Ms Koren, read up on the State Department's vetting procedures for immigrants from Muslim countries; they are among the strictest of any country in the world. Moreover, unlike European countries that have been hit by terrorist attacks, we have two large oceans on either side of us protecting us. And, NO terrorist attack in this country has been perpetrated by someone coming illegally over the border from either Mexico or Canada.
In any case, the chances that you or I will get hurt or killed in a terrorist attack here in the U.S. is statistically indistinguishable from zero. You are much more likely to get hurt in everyday gun violence committed by a fellow American citizen .... or in a traffic accident for that matter.
Finally, many of these immigrants (or people here temporarily to work or study) contribute more to this country economically (they start more businesses) and intellectually (with scientific discoveries) than most of the rural white slackers who imagine that they are special and entitled to something just because, traditionally, they've had it good.
In any case, the chances that you or I will get hurt or killed in a terrorist attack here in the U.S. is statistically indistinguishable from zero. You are much more likely to get hurt in everyday gun violence committed by a fellow American citizen .... or in a traffic accident for that matter.
Finally, many of these immigrants (or people here temporarily to work or study) contribute more to this country economically (they start more businesses) and intellectually (with scientific discoveries) than most of the rural white slackers who imagine that they are special and entitled to something just because, traditionally, they've had it good.
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"NO terrorist attack in this country has been perpetrated by someone coming illegally over the border from either Mexico or Canada."
Good comment given that it's a lie. Tell me oh intelligent one, what were the nationalities of the terrorists of 911? Were they here legally or illegally? You will say legally since they had student visas but they were in violation of those visas so that means they were here illegally. Care to retract your lie? No you're a Santa Cruse Californian liberal that desires to break the rule of law in our nation's Constitution and succeed from our nation. As much as I wish you well in that endeavor, I know that it's not going to happen. Try learning things of value about your nation for a change and stop being so pathetically ignorant. And isn't it funny that the preponderance of violence committed with a gun comes from Liberal Democrats and not Conservative Republicans? Can you explain that one? It seems to me that the people you should be fearful of are the people like yourself who you associate with.
Good comment given that it's a lie. Tell me oh intelligent one, what were the nationalities of the terrorists of 911? Were they here legally or illegally? You will say legally since they had student visas but they were in violation of those visas so that means they were here illegally. Care to retract your lie? No you're a Santa Cruse Californian liberal that desires to break the rule of law in our nation's Constitution and succeed from our nation. As much as I wish you well in that endeavor, I know that it's not going to happen. Try learning things of value about your nation for a change and stop being so pathetically ignorant. And isn't it funny that the preponderance of violence committed with a gun comes from Liberal Democrats and not Conservative Republicans? Can you explain that one? It seems to me that the people you should be fearful of are the people like yourself who you associate with.
Forgive my strong language, but DJT is pandering to his fearful and foaming at the mouth base. He thinks if he succeeds in putting into place all his wretched promises in the first 100 days, he can cruise the rest of his term. He is a political pimp. Pax, jb.
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This is a disgrace for the United States. It is true that the refugee crisis and the Islamist terror attacks are the major social issues in the US as well as in Europe, but there are ways to tackle them with the care and respect of helpless people. A great part of them are well-educated and attending training in universities and institutions, with the sole idea of living and bringing something to their lives and the country. And what about all the children traveling all on their own? Any heart somewhere here?
I doubt this ban will prevent some people with psychiatric problems and low intellectual ideas from shooting in schools or airports in the US.
I doubt this ban will prevent some people with psychiatric problems and low intellectual ideas from shooting in schools or airports in the US.
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Lots of vitriol here in your statement but strangely no offer of any real suggestions on how it should be done. So, do you have any suggestions or are you here like most of the others just to rant?
I cannot see anything in the Executive Order (EO) that would not make it applicable to those dangerous nationals ALREADY in the US. The very EO says it is meant "[t]o protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States… ." Admitted. Past tense.
If I was a lawyer for ACLU, I would sue right now the US government for NOT instantly rounding up and removing all those dangerous foreigners who already are in the US. All governmental agencies that enforce the EO must enforce it also vis-à-vis those dangerous nationals now physically in the US. No law enforcement agency can say that the removal of EVERY such dangerous national is not necessary to protect the American people, unless they can demonstrate that each and every one of those people have already been proven not dangerous. Politically unpalatable? Too bad.
I would love to see law enforcement agencies write in a court of law that in order to protect US citizens under the EO they do not need to remove the thousands of "dangerous" foreigners who already are in the US but that it is enough to not let a few dozens come in this weekend.
After filing (and winning, inchallah) such lawsuit, the full absurdity and superficiality of this EO would come crashing down on the very people who have created it. (Not to mention probable claims of unconstitutionality for arbitrarily treating differently the same class of inherently "threatening" individuals.)
If I was a lawyer for ACLU, I would sue right now the US government for NOT instantly rounding up and removing all those dangerous foreigners who already are in the US. All governmental agencies that enforce the EO must enforce it also vis-à-vis those dangerous nationals now physically in the US. No law enforcement agency can say that the removal of EVERY such dangerous national is not necessary to protect the American people, unless they can demonstrate that each and every one of those people have already been proven not dangerous. Politically unpalatable? Too bad.
I would love to see law enforcement agencies write in a court of law that in order to protect US citizens under the EO they do not need to remove the thousands of "dangerous" foreigners who already are in the US but that it is enough to not let a few dozens come in this weekend.
After filing (and winning, inchallah) such lawsuit, the full absurdity and superficiality of this EO would come crashing down on the very people who have created it. (Not to mention probable claims of unconstitutionality for arbitrarily treating differently the same class of inherently "threatening" individuals.)
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As with any difficult project you want to address, you have to start somewhere. This is his first action. Lets wait to see what his next follow-on actions are going to be. Do you actually believe that the mess that has been allowed to fester in our nation for over fifty years is suddenly going to be fixed with one stroke of a pen? Really? Where does that work anywhere on the planet?
The US has a long history of improper treatment of immigrants -- the Red Scare, Japanese internment, and unconstitutional mistreatment of illegals, among others. As for Arab refugees, millions have suffered great privation in their efforts to flee to safety. Here, we are talking about 100 immigrants delayed for a couple of months. In the scheme of things, it is far outweighed by past crises. But it has great symbolic significance. It has come to stand for how we treat our immigrant population. But the Brooklyn case raises a far more significant issue -- earth-shaking in the Constitutional context. When it comes to immigration and anti-terrorism policy, who gets the last word -- the President or the courts. Be careful with that one -- it could affect every aspect of American national security law. One person from Iceland commented here about a possible constitutional crisis. That was one smart Icelander.
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The US also has a long history of mistreating the people who were already here when the US was formed. But we don't want to talk about that nor do we want to discuss how the US treated many who came here as servants and slaves who came against their will. So, just exactly where do you want to start when it comes to all the bad things that the US has done to people? Then let's balance it all in comparison to the rest of the nations on this Planet shall we? Just to be fair and not just one sided. That sounds reasonable doesn't it?
Trump's executive order has nothing to do with his businesses and simply extends the standing ban on traveling from those same 7 countries listed in Obama's Visa Waiver/Terrorist Travel Protection plan put into place in 2015 to visas:
"Under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP):.
- Nationals of VWP countries who have traveled to or been present in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, or Yemen on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited exceptions for travel for diplomatic or military purposes in the service of a VWP country).
- Nationals of VWP countries who are also nationals of Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria."
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html
I didn't vote for Trump but the left is just as capable of spreading fake news as the right is.
"Under the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP):.
- Nationals of VWP countries who have traveled to or been present in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, or Yemen on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited exceptions for travel for diplomatic or military purposes in the service of a VWP country).
- Nationals of VWP countries who are also nationals of Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria."
https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/visit/visa-waiver-program.html
I didn't vote for Trump but the left is just as capable of spreading fake news as the right is.
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AVR, under Obama -- whatever the rules may have been -- we did NOT see the scenes of chaos and heartbreak described here. As for "fake news", are you suggesting that what this article describes was made up? News outlets around the world are describing the same thing. Precisely what "fake news" has the "left" been purveying lately?
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There's clearly a narrative being developed here, with a total disregard for relevant facts such as the heritage of this executive order. And by the looks of this comment board, many are game for the manipulation.
With you on all points except to note that it was the left who started the fake news and most news media today is left when you honestly look at it. So yes, the left is a lot more capable of producing fake news than the right simply as a matter of numbers of media outlets with a strong left leaning tendency. But folks on the NE Seaboard tend to think left more than those who think right.
I am truly embarrassed, not as an American, but just as an ordinary citizen. Words will not do justice as to how I feel. It is a really, sad, sad day for the world. Might as well as get rid of history classes, they don't teach us a thing.
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Don't feel too bad. You are just a product of a failed social engineering program installed in our public education way back in 1963. Train up a child in the way that he shall go and when he is old he will not depart from it. It works for spiritual training and it works for secular training like you see in public schools today and have seen since 1963. You feel bad because you have been lied to for most of your life and didn't know it until you see what you are seeing at present. It's not really your fault. But it is the fault of the overall Citizenry for allowing itself to become so detached from the government it is to monitor and control that today it just didn't see the cancer that is killing of our nation grow to the present size it is today. Removal of that cancer is going to be painful. Recover from that cancer, given the amount that needs to be removed, is now doubtful at best. I am hopeful whereas the liberal mind of today seems to want to hasten the death or our nation rather than to see it healed.
This is a man with no experience in how much time it takes to rollout this type of sweeping change within the country and around the world.
I have to say those smug faces on each of his "cabinet " members faces tell the story. Interesting there were some who did have a grim cast to their faces most looked so proud.......
Hmmmmm pride goeth before a fall.
Countries don't maneuver that quickly Mr Trump,
Interesting he has only yes men/women in his entourage to use his words"people who like me"
None have the guts to disagree with him,
I am disgusted! These people we pay to do this?
Ultimately were the boss and "they're fired"
About that pride thing........
I have to say those smug faces on each of his "cabinet " members faces tell the story. Interesting there were some who did have a grim cast to their faces most looked so proud.......
Hmmmmm pride goeth before a fall.
Countries don't maneuver that quickly Mr Trump,
Interesting he has only yes men/women in his entourage to use his words"people who like me"
None have the guts to disagree with him,
I am disgusted! These people we pay to do this?
Ultimately were the boss and "they're fired"
About that pride thing........
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It's just too bad. Why do we have to worry constantly about foreigners instead of our own people? Do foreigners allow Christians to do whatever they want in Muslim countries? No, they chop off heads. Are we building churches in Muslim countries? No. But how many mosques are being built here? Who cares how many 'innocents' are being inconvenienced? Every time I go to the airport and have to undergo security I think of 9-11 and what the Arabs have done to our civilization.
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You might want to think of 9/11 and the investigation that concluded that NONE of the terrorists came from Syria, nor from Iraq, which we then invaded, making the world ripe for ISIS, when Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with it. You might remember that too often, with pointless military interventions, we have set about changing political outcomes for nations that result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands. Go all the way back to our intervention in Iran, taking out democratically elected, secular leaders in the 1950's and inserting the corrupt Shah, again, making the area ripe for the growth of radical Muslim extremism. And while you are going through airport security, trying reading a history book so you can figure out the full scope of things.
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Number of Dictators worldwide in 2016: 50
Number of Dictators worldwide in 2017: 51
Call every member of Congress. Demand they remove Trump.
By any means necessary.
Number of Dictators worldwide in 2017: 51
Call every member of Congress. Demand they remove Trump.
By any means necessary.
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Protest, revolt, stand up and be heard, but do not, I mean do not act surprised. This is exactly what Trump said he would do. I hope everyone who voted for a third party candidate or for Harambe the gorilla because they couldn't vote for "crooked Hillary" is happy. This is what you refused to stand up to, what are you going to do about it now?
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I like the bit of chaos Trump is providing for our immigrant friends. I think the world will start to think twice before coming to the US. Good.
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I believe Jesus was a refugee...from a middle eastern land. Call your representatives and remind them.
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What an embarrassment and a nit wit. He doesn't realize that we live in a global world where we all need to move freely. Plus, he is in violation of everything that this country stands for. His family (unfortunately) came from Germany and Scotland and he dares to bar others. BTW Germany would not take his grandfather back. For that the German people owe us big time!!
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"A global world where we all need to move freely"?
What countries subscribe to that view? None of them.
What countries subscribe to that view? None of them.
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David
No, according to Pat you are wrong. Obviously you are because she said you were wrong. I didn't know either that I could just go anywhere in the world that I wanted to without any restriction at all. There are parts of North Korea that I would like to see before I die. The same is true of the Middle East and much of North Africa. I can't go there either. Guess its not as free as Pat has ordained that it is.
No, according to Pat you are wrong. Obviously you are because she said you were wrong. I didn't know either that I could just go anywhere in the world that I wanted to without any restriction at all. There are parts of North Korea that I would like to see before I die. The same is true of the Middle East and much of North Africa. I can't go there either. Guess its not as free as Pat has ordained that it is.
The US is no longer honoring the visas that it issued. That's not the only honor that's missing here...
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Bigotry in practice. He demonstrated his character as a candidate and we see further evidence now that he is in office. The guy in the White House has to go.
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You know City Hall in NYC? Remember when you used to be able to just walk in, go up and down the stairways, admire the art work on the walls and check out the offices and chambers of the legislators? No more.
Remember when you could go to the ballpark and not have to empty your pockets and go through metal detectors and get wanded? Fond memories.
How about the courthouses and other municipal buildings. You used to be able to walk in at will and not be vetted or searched or be required to empty pockets and go through metal detectors. Not lately.
Then there are the houses of horrors known as the airports. Remember when you used to be able to park your car and walk with your passenger to the gate. Now it's ticketed passengers only, empty pockets, take off shoes, metal detectors, stand in those machines which expose you to who-knows-what kind of rays before you can get in.
Then let us reflect upon the tremendous cost. Think all of this security is free?
Now members of which group of people have created the conditions which have resulted in all of this?
You know how when one chicken out of hundreds of thousands comes down with salmonella we get rid of all of them?
Remember when you could go to the ballpark and not have to empty your pockets and go through metal detectors and get wanded? Fond memories.
How about the courthouses and other municipal buildings. You used to be able to walk in at will and not be vetted or searched or be required to empty pockets and go through metal detectors. Not lately.
Then there are the houses of horrors known as the airports. Remember when you used to be able to park your car and walk with your passenger to the gate. Now it's ticketed passengers only, empty pockets, take off shoes, metal detectors, stand in those machines which expose you to who-knows-what kind of rays before you can get in.
Then let us reflect upon the tremendous cost. Think all of this security is free?
Now members of which group of people have created the conditions which have resulted in all of this?
You know how when one chicken out of hundreds of thousands comes down with salmonella we get rid of all of them?
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so if that is the true reason..security, protection from some sort of future 9/11 event.....then why is saudi arabia left off of this ban list? makes no sense, does it?
Trump and his minions did not think of the repercussions in his hateful immigration laws. He should get used to the abundance of lawsuits which will stop him dead in his tracks. There will be plenty of checks and balances for those with dictatorial tendencies. Welcome to the Presidency of the USA.
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As a Libyan, now banned to travel to USA, I can only say 'we are now having the fruits of American-driven democracy in Libya'.
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No, Lybia is reaping the fruits of ignorance, tribalism, and Islam. We helped you get rid of a dictator, and predictably, you chose chaos and fundamentalism. Like everywhere else in the ME.
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americans are unemployed. companies need to stop hiring visa workers. visa workers are controllable, they will do harm without realizing it. americans are responsible and refuse to do harm to other americans. that is why the visa are here.
go home. you have countries. go work there.
go home. you have countries. go work there.
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This is as dramatic as The Apprentice. Politically, what is the point of doing this ?
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You're on to something there. It's all about ratings. Trump craves ratings. And look, over 8000 comments here already!
Three cheers for the American president who sides WITH Americans, and not against us!!!
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The pious in America are the most indecent and hypocritical people. They only support the unborn. The living can be humiliated. They can be robbed of health insurance. They can be discriminated against because of colour or religion. They support the death penalty. They support weapons for children. They are deplorable . I prefer a decent atheist every day.
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I'm hoping now that you spat out your insults about indecent and hypocritical US citizens you'll advise us about how well your doing with your mass influx of impoverished unvetted Muslim immigrants. How's that working out? Are you happy sharing your country's treasure or are you creating a new segregated subclass system as the French model with discouraged angry self-radicalized semi-citizens? Keep in touch.
Anne from Germany. You only see the bad side of our good old USA. The other side of us is compassionate, caring, sensible, supportive of human decency and above all, a democratic country which allows its citizens to vote, though sometimes not to one's wish!! And in this case......!!!!
We haven't been this threatened by an agitated angry public like this since John Brown on his anti-slavery raid on a federal fort which heightened tensions in our nation and precipitated the Uncivil War.
We all act in front of cameras as you know, but Trump? It's like a horror flick, isn't it?
We all act in front of cameras as you know, but Trump? It's like a horror flick, isn't it?
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Haven't heard a peep out of McConnell, Ryan, McCain, or Graham. Gutless wonders when push comes to shove.
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It's high time that President Trump finally stood up to the terrorist threat affecting our nation for years. People aren't used to America as a leader. They are used to a President who is a whimp who goes along with anything. Not anymore. Not now. Not ever again.
He has put the world on notice that the United States is not going to have open borders, allowing people from these countries to flood in and cause us potential problems.
If these countries our offended, then they need to establish procedures for extreme vetting to eliminate the risk of terrorists sneaking in to the United States.
He has put the world on notice that the United States is not going to have open borders, allowing people from these countries to flood in and cause us potential problems.
If these countries our offended, then they need to establish procedures for extreme vetting to eliminate the risk of terrorists sneaking in to the United States.
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Too bad most of the terrorists seem to come from other countries, such as Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.
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This is an outrage. "Irreparable harm" is exactly what is being done, not just to these innocent travelers and immigrants, but to the worth of America's moral currency in the world. If this country makes a promise in the form of a visa, a green card, an official approval of any kind, what possible interest could there be in America's revocation of it's promise without any grounds whatsoever, and in this completely inept and insensitive manner. No one in the NY real estate world believes what Donald Trump says, and they've learned not to care. Something needs to stop him from ruining America's reputation before no one values what America says, either.
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-tru... Notice that Mr. Trump clearly didn't bother to ban any countries where he does business... not that the ban wasn't already hideously immoral.
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In addition, there appear to be issues of radicalization of second generation young people where parents are not aware and young person in a situation with temporary residents or foreign travel.
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So much disruption and chaos in such a short time. It is simple minded and inaccurate to ascribe the intensity of the negative responses toward President Trumps' actions, statements and policies as the whining of sore losers whose candidate lost. Our streets are increasingly filled with marchers while law suits against Mr. Trump personally as well as his administration multiply daily. Day to day life abounds in the absurd with a news cycle subsumed by superficial, misleading or dishonest comments via interviews and tweets. This false busyness makes it seem like something important is happening but that is belied by the incompetence, dissembling and duplicity that happens on a regular basis. Individuals seeking solutions to problems, who desire serenity, are exhausted by the hatred and ill will spattered about by our golden tongued charlatan and his surrogate sycophants. As a moral hypocrite and denier of the truth he lays his villainy upon us all like the touch of an evil glove. May he soon find some love and kindness in his heart and may we find the love and patience we need to counteract his attempts at dominion.
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Puts a searchlight on the Supreme Court nominee. The courts are the only backstop left for ordinary citizens as the republicans play along with trump's excesses and democrats are not yet forceful in their dissent.
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On average, the u.s. takes in more refugees than the rest of the world combined. Most often, these refugees travel thru, over and past multiple safe, secure counties. Why come here? Because we have a social welfare net work second to none and you can usually end up bringing multiple family member with you. Plus, now that we've been doing this for decades there are communities here that bear basically no resemblemce to normal u.s. communities. No one speaks English or makes much of an effort to asymilate, because they don't have to. This is all done without the slightest study by anybody whether it is good or bad for this country and its citizens. It is well past the time with there binging 325 million Americans and 7.7 billion humans whether the u.s. can or should keep absorbing basically everybody who wants to come here. We are long past a sustainable population. When we hit 500 million later this century it will be too late to fix it. Let's have a time out and decide what's best for the u.s., not just immigrants and refugees.
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Do some research outside your Breitbart bubble. We are not even in the top 10 of countries who are taking in refugees and certainly do not have a social safety net equal to none. We do not compare to the countries of Europe who provide health care, higher education, vacation time, and much better maternity leave and childcare. The chaotic implementation of this new plan is inhumane and outrageous. Beyond the cruelty of it all, how is it in our interest to turn away people who have worked with our armies at their own personal risk? You think we'll continue to have allies in these countries after this? Outrageous.
Oh and P.S. I live in a very international city, and I love it! People who live in international city welcome immigrants because we know the truth of welcoming international people is nothing like the fear-mongers say. Immigrants (and we as Americans are ALL immigrants) make our communities great! It's only people who have NO EXPERIENCE with recent immigrants who are afraid. Your point of view is cowardice.
the US isn't even in the top 10 of nations absorbing refugees, and nowhere near equal to other nations combined in welcoming immigrants. more like a quarter of others combined. we can do much more; most of us are children or grandchildren of immigrants, pulling up the ladder behind us is wrong, and we gave a moral obligation to help those who have no other choice. America was founded for exactly that reason, by immigrants and refugees.
Wherever ISIS is stationed they are dancing in the streets. Mr. Trump has done for them what nobody else could, and that is gain tremendous support from the other one and a half BILLION Muslims in the world. Because no matter how Trump explains it his action states loud and clear that he is ANTI MUSLIM. ISIS's numbers will now grow exponentially and support in the form of money and arms will get rolling. And we can expect no support from other countries simply because they know they can't believe or trust our president because of his lying and erratic behavior.
Someone needs to start writing the book. "The Decline and Fall of The United States." A record must be made to show that on January 20, 2017 this country started it's way to oblivion, caused by it's own utter stupidity.
I'm glad I'm old enough that I won't be around to suffer through the disaster but I feel dread and sorrow for my children and their children.
Don't mock me. When I said stupidity I meant it. The Republicans, the only ones at this point that can do anything to stop this dictator in the making, are instead supporting him, thinking, in their moronic fashion, that somehow all his actions are somehow going to benefit them.
Someone needs to start writing the book. "The Decline and Fall of The United States." A record must be made to show that on January 20, 2017 this country started it's way to oblivion, caused by it's own utter stupidity.
I'm glad I'm old enough that I won't be around to suffer through the disaster but I feel dread and sorrow for my children and their children.
Don't mock me. When I said stupidity I meant it. The Republicans, the only ones at this point that can do anything to stop this dictator in the making, are instead supporting him, thinking, in their moronic fashion, that somehow all his actions are somehow going to benefit them.
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AV,
So wait a minute. I keep hearing how Muslims are all fantastic people who would never harm a soul, and who all have jobs and families and want to pay taxes and we should get as many possible before they are all gone.
Now, you seem to be saying that they are mostly standing on a knife edge between decent human behavior and being an ISIS jihadist. And that the slightest offense could push them toward violence.
If the latter is the case, and a 4-month pause in immigration is enough to drive millions of Muslims to violent jihad, well then, maybe we don't want all that many of them here.
What if we accept a few million, and then in a couple years, we do something they don't like? According to you, they are likely to go to war.
So wait a minute. I keep hearing how Muslims are all fantastic people who would never harm a soul, and who all have jobs and families and want to pay taxes and we should get as many possible before they are all gone.
Now, you seem to be saying that they are mostly standing on a knife edge between decent human behavior and being an ISIS jihadist. And that the slightest offense could push them toward violence.
If the latter is the case, and a 4-month pause in immigration is enough to drive millions of Muslims to violent jihad, well then, maybe we don't want all that many of them here.
What if we accept a few million, and then in a couple years, we do something they don't like? According to you, they are likely to go to war.
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Individuals caught betwixt and between should of course be accommodated and their "vetting" expedited.
[We also forget that Mr. Obama has deported many many "behind the scenes".]
[We also forget that Mr. Obama has deported many many "behind the scenes".]
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There is no comparison between deporting individuals with due process and the inhumane chaos Donald Trump's idiotic and cowardly order has unleashed.
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The world-wide chaos that trump is and will create should be enough for the U.S. Congress to impeach him based upon his fitness for office.
When he acts outside of the law, he must be held strictly accountable for it.
This EO was a clear abuse of power and done in defiance, not in accordance, with federal law.
When he acts outside of the law, he must be held strictly accountable for it.
This EO was a clear abuse of power and done in defiance, not in accordance, with federal law.
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This ban will incite terrorist attacks that will give Trump reason to reinforce this ban and extend it to anyone from anywhere he personally doesn't like.
If there was a replay of the election today Trump would be in the dumps!
If there was a replay of the election today Trump would be in the dumps!
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If this is all it takes to make Muslims into terrorists we don't want them here.
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Let us remember that the US is defined by its multi-nationality and religious tapestry. This order was issued haphazardly and without much preparation. It appears that it was issued not to be taken in face value, but to be interpreted as an affront to Muslims. That's not very good.
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While I share concern for Trump's callous and ill-conceived ban targeting Muslim immigrants and refugees, I'm curious as to why Muslim's fleeing repressive and dangerous regimes can't seek asylum in Indonesia, the country with the largest Muslin population in the world? Why aren't other safe Muslim-majority nations welcoming and sheltering their brethren?
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Because pretty much everybody, even great satan hating Muslims, would rather come here than any Islamist country. Can you blame them?
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Trump's Executive Order are more like Fuhrer Diktats than traditional Presidential Executive Orders.
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Hoorah for Our Two Federal Justices. Standing up to Trump is necessary if we truly want to be safer. In office 7 1/2 days, Trump began feeding the radical terrorist pipeline. Hopefully, the SCOTUS will see to it that his violates due process, since 100s have passed our nation's 24 month, that's 2 years, process of vetting that refugees experience, and have passed. In addition, I would be willing to bet that 99% of green card holders were considering naturalization until yesterday and they could not get back to their new home, the United States of America. We need a compassionate leader and not an egomaniacal sociopath and the court system we do have has demonstrated the compassion our nation is known to possess who seek safety and a better opportunity.
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Next, he'll pick a "historical enemy of the US" and drag you... and the rest of us into another world war, without blinking an eye.
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Oh, you mean like Obama did with Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Syria, etc...
One would expect this level of ignorance from Donald Trump. He has displayed zero knowledge of world affairs. On the other hand, he obviously didn't write the order. Therefore, we have some bureaucracy that is apparently oblivious to the ramifications of such a stupid order.
Is anyone with policy knowledge involved in our foreign policy? Anyone at all? It sure doesn't look that way.
Is anyone with policy knowledge involved in our foreign policy? Anyone at all? It sure doesn't look that way.
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Does anyone care about the safety and wellbeing of American Citizens? Way to go Trumo. Change has to begin somewhere. My heart goes out to those who are truly fleeing persecution and seeking a better life. However, the point is that we must first protect our own. I find it silly that nations are upset at this. I would never allow my neighbor to dictate who I allow as guest in my home. I guess its okay for American to do such. Not at all. Way to go Trump Administration.
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Remember those scenes on TV of Nixon after impeachment waving to the crowd with both arms, boarding the helicopter that flew him from the White House, and away from running our country?
I want to see Trumpf waving goodbye to America. Let him be deported –after lawful impeachment of course. He should be escorted to JFK, where he’ll wave to the crowd cheering his departure, to board a plane that will fly him across the ocean to a far away country where he will be welcomed and fit right in.
The Trumpf will be quite at home in a country run by oligarchs with dominating attitudes toward women and civil liberties. One that refugees escape from, flying to JFK, to find a life of freedom. In his new country, he he can build a new Trump Tower palace, all in gold, and live happily ever after with his fantasies---far away from us.
I want to see Trumpf waving goodbye to America. Let him be deported –after lawful impeachment of course. He should be escorted to JFK, where he’ll wave to the crowd cheering his departure, to board a plane that will fly him across the ocean to a far away country where he will be welcomed and fit right in.
The Trumpf will be quite at home in a country run by oligarchs with dominating attitudes toward women and civil liberties. One that refugees escape from, flying to JFK, to find a life of freedom. In his new country, he he can build a new Trump Tower palace, all in gold, and live happily ever after with his fantasies---far away from us.
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I just read the accompanying article that presents key provisions of the order with annotations. The order contemplates special treatment of members of religious minorities in each country. Are Sunnis in a predominantly Shiite country a minority, and vice versa? Does treating them as co-religionists make any more sense than treating Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland as all "Christians"?
Further, the ISIS version of Islam is in the minority almost everywhere. Should ISIS followers therefore receive favorable treatment? This whole thing is not very well thought out.
Further, the ISIS version of Islam is in the minority almost everywhere. Should ISIS followers therefore receive favorable treatment? This whole thing is not very well thought out.
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The talking heads for Trump will attempt to deflect and dismiss this mess Trump created over the weekend by focusing only on the fact these countries were already pin-pointed in the previous administration. The fact remains this executive order is just another mismanagement by Trump.
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I too am a veteran, doesn't the President realize that Arlington has headstones marking the graves of brave Muslim Americans who paid the ultimate price to guarantee a country of diversity? I have served with colleagues who immigrated from Muslim countries and this background greatly aided our efforts in strengthening our alliance with Muslim countries. This is simply disgusting grandstanding, playing to the evils of our society. The Alt-Right fascists forget the fact that unless they are Native Americans they too are immigrants or descendants of immigrants.
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Mr. Trump's election has turned my life into a nightmare I can't awaken from. But at the least, tomorrow morning will open with the proud memory of the two federal judges who blocked his executive orders, all the people who showed up at the airport to protest the actions of this embarrassment of a president, and the ACLU attorneys who are on our side.
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The Republican party cannot withstand the sheer force of constant protest and political upheaval.
Brag as you see fit, Republicans, but you are doomed.
You may win some battles, but ultimately, progress, compassion, and erudition always win the war.
Doomed. No other word for it.
Brag as you see fit, Republicans, but you are doomed.
You may win some battles, but ultimately, progress, compassion, and erudition always win the war.
Doomed. No other word for it.
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When did we lose our way? What happened to our empathy and compassion. We are the United States. We were the United States.
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The most important part no one seems to care about, the proof that all this is nothing but a media show, is the fact that this ban is only in effect for 90 days! , if Trump had been man enough, not the hypocrite liar he is, he would have made mandate indefinite.
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We've all been biting our tongues for too long in the name of respecting the democratic process. It's time for people of good conscience to speak up and rise up and for those we respect, and I'm talking to you President Obama and you Secretary Clinton, to get up on the streets to stand up and be counted with the rest of us. We should have 5 million people on the streets marching to Washington from all corners of this country. Let them know who they are up against. #RiseUp
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I'm not impressed with all this Alt-Left wailing & gnashing of teeth over Trump's curtailment of allowing refugees from certain Muslim countries. Are there secular Muslims? Why don't we see them dominate their faith by condemning and searching out those would be extremists? Especially those who live here in the US. Access to the US is not a right. Refugees should think about overthrowing their vile governments, like we did, rather than gravy-training it to Western Democracies where their freedom and way of life was earned by the blood, sweat & tears of their patriots who were all in for their cause.
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It would be nice to understand with whom the NYTime is siding.
Is it with outsiders who want to over the nation?
As for the ban on certain populations, it is nothing to make a huge hue and cry.
Many more populations will be edged out of the nation, one by one.
It is high time someone stood up to save a native-English nation from the rut that is entering from everywhere.
Is it with outsiders who want to over the nation?
As for the ban on certain populations, it is nothing to make a huge hue and cry.
Many more populations will be edged out of the nation, one by one.
It is high time someone stood up to save a native-English nation from the rut that is entering from everywhere.
At this point, I strongly support widespread civil disobedience against the policies of this corrupt, fraudulent, and illegitimate administration. It has become clear that Trump and his cronies intend to dismantle America's institutions, government, and liberty, most likely abetted by foreign leaders such as Putin and Netenyahu and Trump's business partners.
Judge Donnelly is a patriot and courageous hero.
Judge Donnelly is a patriot and courageous hero.
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Isn't this yet the ultimate proof that Trump is insane and a danger to our
country: and now to our troops in Iraq....Trump should be denounced by
the new Secretary of Defense James Mattis....and should be court martialed
as a danger to our defense by this insane act...Trump cannot be President if
he can cause a world wide condemnation of such an irrational act as banning
people from entering our country ...just as a dictator would do..
Please General Mattis get this guy out of the Oval Office....now !!!
country: and now to our troops in Iraq....Trump should be denounced by
the new Secretary of Defense James Mattis....and should be court martialed
as a danger to our defense by this insane act...Trump cannot be President if
he can cause a world wide condemnation of such an irrational act as banning
people from entering our country ...just as a dictator would do..
Please General Mattis get this guy out of the Oval Office....now !!!
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Should there be any limits on immigration? Should anyone who wishes to come here have the right to come here?
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Not according to many on the left. Look ar the EU since Merkle threw the door open. Do we really want that here?
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SAUDI ARABIA: PLEASE, NEW YORK TIMES- cover this glaring hypocritical element MORE. PLEASE.
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I guess it’s kind of hypocritical that Trump didn’t ban people from Saudi Arabia or some other oil states. Michael Moore has this twitter post claiming that the terrorists who did 7 or 8 of the most well-known attacks weren’t from any of the banned countries. You know Al Qaeda has its roots in Saudi Arabia.
I guess at first it may have seemed like a comprehensive ban, but it’s really not at all, if you think about the region a little more.
That’s interesting that Trump didn’t make a statement talking about some of these criticisms you could have about it. You know, he didn’t say, there’s going to be a wider ban someday, or didn’t say, here’s why we’re not doing a wider ban.
I’m thinking even many sub-Saharan African countries may be majority-Muslim countries. Or what about Malaysia or Indonesia? They might be, also. Just 7 countries has got to be less than half.
There’s all of north African, the Levant, the Arabian peninsula (including Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Qatar, Oman, Yemen), Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, all the way to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Maybe some former soviet states around there. And then, as I said above, Malaysia and Indonesia, and maybe a bunch of sub-Saharan African states. Like 30 or 40 countries, even, instead of just 7.
I guess at first it may have seemed like a comprehensive ban, but it’s really not at all, if you think about the region a little more.
That’s interesting that Trump didn’t make a statement talking about some of these criticisms you could have about it. You know, he didn’t say, there’s going to be a wider ban someday, or didn’t say, here’s why we’re not doing a wider ban.
I’m thinking even many sub-Saharan African countries may be majority-Muslim countries. Or what about Malaysia or Indonesia? They might be, also. Just 7 countries has got to be less than half.
There’s all of north African, the Levant, the Arabian peninsula (including Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Qatar, Oman, Yemen), Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, all the way to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Maybe some former soviet states around there. And then, as I said above, Malaysia and Indonesia, and maybe a bunch of sub-Saharan African states. Like 30 or 40 countries, even, instead of just 7.
Donald Trump: The ugly face of America
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Well, that didn't take long. Trump won't last 4 months, let alone 4 years. Get ready for President Pence. Good God.
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This was a mistake by Trump and i am affraid when they go next after illegal immigrants in their homes and try to round them up everywhere in the usa for deportation it will not be nice and could lead to serious problems in the streets. Hope someone can talk to him and tell him to create opportunity for everyone and stop playing the President and be the President.
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All I can say, Yes, Anyone who already had a green card, visa, passport previously, should be allowed in, from the countries on the list.
Here is a thought for all you Na Sayer's, I will explain it simply,
Have you ever had a house party and more people showed up, and people that were never invited because they don't get along with others, or are known troublemakers, but they all came to the party, it was out of hand, and the house was wrecked.
You realized after the house party, you should have never allowed the open door policy, due to all the damage and chaos it created.
As a country, the U.S. cannot be one big house party with no rules....
Nobody is saying the TEMPORARY HOLD for a few months, is PERMANENT hold, Its just until we as a country can perform a better background check So we can protect the U.S. from further attacks....So lighten up, think about your country first...IF the U.S. is unstable then so is the rest of the world.
God Help US if we cant protect the people of the United States.
The next terror attack I am sure some with change their mind, and end up blaming the government for not protecting U.S. citizens...
Here is a thought for all you Na Sayer's, I will explain it simply,
Have you ever had a house party and more people showed up, and people that were never invited because they don't get along with others, or are known troublemakers, but they all came to the party, it was out of hand, and the house was wrecked.
You realized after the house party, you should have never allowed the open door policy, due to all the damage and chaos it created.
As a country, the U.S. cannot be one big house party with no rules....
Nobody is saying the TEMPORARY HOLD for a few months, is PERMANENT hold, Its just until we as a country can perform a better background check So we can protect the U.S. from further attacks....So lighten up, think about your country first...IF the U.S. is unstable then so is the rest of the world.
God Help US if we cant protect the people of the United States.
The next terror attack I am sure some with change their mind, and end up blaming the government for not protecting U.S. citizens...
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The headlines should be "Trump bans non-terrorist groups then lies that this is a safety issue." When obama was president, the conservative media were very effective by not being mealy-mouthed on the news. These headlines now are too watered down to the point of being misleading. Its ok to say it. Of the approximately 50 terrorist acts in the US since 2000, none were related to these 7 countries or any refugee. period. maybe 90% of these acts were done by american citizens, not people trying to come to work for a better life for their children. Being afraid of refugees is making america great?
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With Donald Trump, America is entering a new Dark Age.
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Make an offer to the countries excluded, that they can take out a liability insurance for their citizens, so they will be allowed again to enter the united states. Make a 1 Billion deposit to the US treasury/or bank, which can be drawn upon, if and when their citizens commit crime/terror acts. These are all pieceful people, right, so the money will just stand there drawing interest.
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Trump ressurects Osama Bin Laden: The new (undemocraticatically elected) President of the United States has fallen for the classic terrorist fake out by initiating the precise policies that madman hoped for.
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The actions of Donald Trump and his hamfisted accomplices are causing real and lasting damage to people and their property and doing so unnecessarily, cruelly and unusually. The agents and officers of the U.S. should join the general citizenry in boycotting, frustrating and challenging the actions of the trump administration which are unnatural and contrary to the spirit of liberty and justice for all.
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Now permanent residents are barred from entering the country! In what universe is this legal? Haaretz, the most important Usraeli newspaper, is reporting that Israeli Jews born in one of the affected countries, may not be allowed into the US. Does anybody understand the implications of this insanity?
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When I was a young girl in the 60s in Hebrew school I regularly heard discussions about Nazi Germany that would end with the phrase "never again". I thought to myself "of course that won't happen again. Nobody would allow that." I also thought I was glad I lived in America because that would never happen here. Now our current president scapegoats one religious group and tries to create a frenzy where none should be and I am frightened.
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Any in this administration who claim to be Christians have proven to be fakes. Christ's family were refugees fleeing for their lives. Christ himself always helped refugees suffering and wounded.
Matthew 2:14,15; 4:24
Matthew 2:14,15; 4:24
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trump is a fascist demagogue.
YOU must oppose him!
If you do not,
then you are complicit with him.
YOU must oppose him!
If you do not,
then you are complicit with him.
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One crazy unintended consequence of banning muslims while clearing a path for christians is the possible speeding up of ethnic cleansing in the Middle East. One of the things ISIS wants is to push out christians and anyone else who doesn't adhere to their brand of religion.
So while Trump might save a few christians he might actually help end christianity in the Middle East.
So while Trump might save a few christians he might actually help end christianity in the Middle East.
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As an over-educated, under-utilized, economically and socially oppressed "temporary worker" living in the US legally for 13 years spanning my entire adult life, I support 100% what @mathelitist said. Lady liberty is white and America is the land of freedom and opportunity for white immigrants with European ancestry. I'm a model citizen, yet treated forever as an other & face low level racism everyday. It would do well to remember (for those professing to be liberals in support of Syrian refugees being allowed sanctuary), that Trump's executive order didn't come out of nowhere... non-white would-be immigrants--including those like me, who despite a stellar record face multiple decades of wait to be given permanent residency--have known this to be true since the 60s. The claim that nationality-based discrimination was undone is completely misleading. All countries are currently given the same number of legal permanent residence quotas for work/family sponsoring. But counties vary vastly in size, opportunity and safety, the resulting number of legitimate and qualified immigrant applicants also varies vastly between counties. The result? A high school graduate from a white European or commonwealth country can get his green card within months, while a masters graduate from US universities, 10yrs+ of working legally in the US from a brown "developing" country faces additional decades of unnecessary/oppressive restrictions to freedom and uncertainty as a hostage of #USimmigration.
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The demographic transformation of America since the Immigration Act of 1965 lays waste to your argument. Do you know what percentage of America was non-white in 1950 and what it is in 2017? Do you think white people should be a minority in every country they inhabit?
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There you go again using facts. The left doesn't like them. Stick with feelings and the premise that whites are evil-always.
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why are you here if you feel so disrespected. go back to your homeland, make a difference there.
I just reread the history of John Adam's Alien & Sedition Act that did not go that well for him resulting in his being a one-term president. We can only hope.
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Trump's theme song -- "IF I Ruled The World."
Sickening.
Sickening.
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Legally speaking, a president is within his constitutional powers to limit when non-American citizen(s) can or cannot be allowed entry into the country. Obviously, it will trigger strong debate. But the simple fact remains that non-citizens do not have a right to demand entry into the country. That would be insane. Green card holders and students actively enrolled may be exempt, or at least should be, because they have been vetted and have established lives here. Also, the initiation of the order should have been delayed for a few days to weeks to allow travelers time to adjust their travel plans. It is interesting that the country that sent us the 9/11 hijackers wasn't on the list.
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Join the ACLU now.
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The stay will only be temporary, it will be overturned in a higher court. The president is acting constitutionally.
I for one am sick of all of the jihadist terror attacks against the US and other Western targets, the Western world needs to use more available tools to reduce this very real threat.
No one has a constitutional right to immigrate to the US.
I for one am sick of all of the jihadist terror attacks against the US and other Western targets, the Western world needs to use more available tools to reduce this very real threat.
No one has a constitutional right to immigrate to the US.
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Yes, I am in fear for my life from terror attacks especially in San Antonio where we have taken in thousands of Muslims over the years. I'm scared of their warm hospitality at the many businesses they own, especially their delicious restaurants. The smiles of their beautiful children at grocery stores is especially unsettling.
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This is outrageous. My parents are Chinese American immigrants who built everything out of nothing. They are the smartest people I know and love this country deeply. If Trumps ban applied to the Chinese, I wouldn't be here today.
No ban or religious vetting! It makes no sense and this whole thing is very reactionary / short term thinking.
No ban or religious vetting! It makes no sense and this whole thing is very reactionary / short term thinking.
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Who said he is banning Chinese? If he banned X then X's descendants wouldn't be here either. Do you think things through?
Should there be any limits on any immigration? If so, what criteria do you propose? Finally, if China became 40% non-Chinese due to immigration policies in less than. 50 years, how would you feel about it?
What is said during a campaign is harder to accomplish as a roller
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Sound like a dictatorship to me.
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Thank you Judge Amy Donnelly!
Thank you ACLU!
Thank you to all the protestors nationwide & to Michael Moore for helping to get that large crowd out at JFK airport!
They can't run over us if we keep talking to each other, spreading the truth & showing up!
Thank you ACLU!
Thank you to all the protestors nationwide & to Michael Moore for helping to get that large crowd out at JFK airport!
They can't run over us if we keep talking to each other, spreading the truth & showing up!
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where are all the conservatives screaming about violating the Constitution? I guess protecting the Constitution only applies to the Republican agenda..
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Another misleading headline by the NY Times. The stay issued by the rookie NY Obama judge is a TEMPORARY STAY which only addresses damages to the immigrants that have arrived in the U.S.. It was issued on a Friday, watch what happens Monday.
President Trump by law has the authority to restrict, or deny anyone coming into the U.S.. The NY Judge did not deny that in her temporary stay. However, her temporary stay will be lifted by an appellate court as she overstepped her authority.
The people addressed by Trump's order that just arrived in the U.S. continue to be detained, as they should be. Only the two in NY have been released.
President Trump by law has the authority to restrict, or deny anyone coming into the U.S.. The NY Judge did not deny that in her temporary stay. However, her temporary stay will be lifted by an appellate court as she overstepped her authority.
The people addressed by Trump's order that just arrived in the U.S. continue to be detained, as they should be. Only the two in NY have been released.
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The fact that Trump initiated this act is bad enough, the fact that, roughly, 40 percent of Americans cheer the action is irehensible.
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"Judge Blocks Trump Order on Refugees Amid Chaos and Outcry Worldwide" 100 to 200 are stuck at JFK. That's chaos? Really? Are you sure?
Probably it's about the norm for immigration problems on any given day. Did the times bother to find out what the norm is?
Probably it's about the norm for immigration problems on any given day. Did the times bother to find out what the norm is?
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Folks, this is a distraction done at this time to take attention from what trump is doing with Russia.
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Trump = as dangerous as ISIS
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That's an insane and foolish statement. No one has the right to travel to and live in any country they wish. Do you feel similarly incensed about Chinese and Mexican immigration policy?
Trump is an unstable and impulsive individual who suffers from delusions of grandeur and has the launch codes to the US nuclear arsenal. Enough said.
Aren't Americans ashamed of themselves? Effective border control is ok but to abandon with a stroke of a pen every refuge whose life may be threatened in no small part due to past actions taken by America in Afghanistan or Iraq is so-Un-American. The hysterical fear of possible terrorist attacks is so disproportionate relative to the risk of getting killed by a gun. At the end of the day, this action will do nothing to reduce the risk of terrorism but simply will contribute to "making Americans ugly" again.
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Personal outrage, shared words on paper, marches and protests on the street are all vital, and now how can we turn these into actions to have a real and immediate effect.
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"Chaos and Outcry Worldwide!" Really? A couple of guys detained for a few hours in an airport?
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What really frightens me is that this was not done for reason, this had been done for effect. It is a bread and circuses politics. This president was meant for the US, this president loves the show and like every narcissist, he loves to be loved, this is addictive.
Trump does not try to accomplish something, he wants to entertain. He must come up with new tricks every day. Reason has left the US, prepare for the worst.
Trump does not try to accomplish something, he wants to entertain. He must come up with new tricks every day. Reason has left the US, prepare for the worst.
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Like any good narcissist, Trump has started some trouble that didn't exist in order to draw attention to himself. There is a kind of pyromaniac who enjoys setting a fire that "only he" can put out. Hopefully, our legal system will turn the powerful stream of water coming from its fire hose on him, up to and including impeachment, and knock the sorry fool and his idiotic followers on their butts.
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I am an atheist but I have to pay taxes that cover the loopholes for churches because for tax purposes they are considered charitable organizations.
I see one church mentioned in the article as taking in refugees.
Where are other church groups? How come they aren't earning their taxpayer- funded keep by putting their free lunch where their mouths are and taking in these people?
I see one church mentioned in the article as taking in refugees.
Where are other church groups? How come they aren't earning their taxpayer- funded keep by putting their free lunch where their mouths are and taking in these people?
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Catholic charities in SA helps resettle refugees, most of them are Iraqis (now banned) who helped our military and have been waiting for years to get into the US.
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Trump has failed to make the case that the existing immigration system puts America in danger. Instead, he conflates prejudice, fear and racism by suggesting that people may be dangerous solely based on their country of origin and religion. Billionaire Trump won't release his income tax returns for all to see, yet he insists on "extreme vetting" of Muslim immigrants. We are a weaker, tarnished nation now.
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Immigration has given us 325 million Americans- the greatest long term threat to this country. No amount of PC thinking can undo the fact that we are well past any sustainable population.
"Woe to the hand that shed this costly blood." In one week's time Trump reached out to The Kremlin while putting up walls against our neighbors of Mexico and against our Muslim friends. He has threatened international order in dismissing our allies. He has endangered our healthcare and our hard fought rights over our bodies. Oil, money and greed are unleashed and covering us all with the stain of unbridled power. He is not and never will be our president because he is a traitor to the basic principles of liberty and justice for all. If his executive actions in his first week of office are not enough for our elected officials to see the dangers this iceburg has done to our ship of state, then they will go down with him.
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Dont worry illegals who were suckered by obamas false promises and illegal acts germany, france and norway and all of those illegal refugee havens are waiting for you with open arms.
The usa and iran are enemies and we americans dont like you. The kiddie millenials mostly
protesting dont know what they are doing thanks to obamas common core
education and illegal parenting practices. Welcome to the real usa.
The usa and iran are enemies and we americans dont like you. The kiddie millenials mostly
protesting dont know what they are doing thanks to obamas common core
education and illegal parenting practices. Welcome to the real usa.
These people are being inconvenienced...Yawn...Who isn't?
Anyone complaining is a traitor...Trump was chosen and tasked to begin to heal the decades of abuse Americans have suffered at the hands of the establishment...He is doing what we want...Not what they want...I am proud that these people are being inconvenienced, Lord knows we have been so for decades also...Both parties betrayed us and we sat back and took it NO MORE!
We want our country back...You bellyachers have no clue; I am a child of the 60's I remember what a Great America looked like...It's everyone's father has a job and often mom did too...It's schools where people were educated and health care was there to help you. We have a big mess to clean up... There will be pain and suffering...Se la vie! But in the end we will be a stronger nation...I care not what the world thinks about us...As if the media has their finger on the pulse of the world...LOL..."The world is ambivalent" would be the only true statement regarding the mindset of said "world"...
Anyone complaining is a traitor...Trump was chosen and tasked to begin to heal the decades of abuse Americans have suffered at the hands of the establishment...He is doing what we want...Not what they want...I am proud that these people are being inconvenienced, Lord knows we have been so for decades also...Both parties betrayed us and we sat back and took it NO MORE!
We want our country back...You bellyachers have no clue; I am a child of the 60's I remember what a Great America looked like...It's everyone's father has a job and often mom did too...It's schools where people were educated and health care was there to help you. We have a big mess to clean up... There will be pain and suffering...Se la vie! But in the end we will be a stronger nation...I care not what the world thinks about us...As if the media has their finger on the pulse of the world...LOL..."The world is ambivalent" would be the only true statement regarding the mindset of said "world"...
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"Anyone complaining is a traitor."
If one still has any doubt about what Trump and his rabid supporters stands for, one only needs to look at this comment.
If one still has any doubt about what Trump and his rabid supporters stands for, one only needs to look at this comment.
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Fascism, American style. We should all be afraid.
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Have we no checks and balances? Our government is designed to stop this kind of madman dictator behavior. It is incredible that the new administration is destroying a democracy so quickly that it took ~ 250 years to build; an empire turns to ashes in just one week under Trump.
Thank goodness for the federal judge who put a stay on this. Now it is up to lawmakers of both parties to reign in this maniac and condemn this illegal order; the world is watching.
And Paul Ryan, you just lost all respect and credibility for supporting this. You should be deeply, deeply ashamed.
Thank goodness for the federal judge who put a stay on this. Now it is up to lawmakers of both parties to reign in this maniac and condemn this illegal order; the world is watching.
And Paul Ryan, you just lost all respect and credibility for supporting this. You should be deeply, deeply ashamed.
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Confusion needs to resolved here - if you're a Green Card holder shouldn't be allowed in as you've already been vetted. Saying that, remind me didn't Obama ban Iraqi refugees for 6 months in 2011 because Al Qaeda terrorists we're discovered in Bowling Green, KY that had come through the vetting process, Didn't Carter ban Iranian refugees during the hostage crisis in 79. I'd be interested to see how many pro-refugee demonstrations happened in 2011.
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Ramartijr:
"There has not been a single terrorist act carried out by a foreigner ( not a naturalized citizen) since 9/11."
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Yes, this was Obama's latest sophistry on terrorism. As if being a "foreigner" meant those gunned down or run over by domestic Islamic extremists don't count.
I would argue that our anti-terrorism resources are already stretched too thin and cannot even keep track of domestic threats.
And our vetting process is certainly not fool-proof. We just know what Obama claimed. He has proven to be less than forthcoming when pursuing a program he wants. In Syria, there are no records or government to work with on vetting. There have been a few refugees indicted.*
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/the-arrest-of-iraqi...
SMB:
According to UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees): 50.5% percent of refugees are women. Between ages 18-59, 23.9% are female, 21.8 percent are male.
There is a program that allows refugees with family in the US to bypass UN screening.
I tend to take ISIS at its word when it claims it will infiltrate refugees. Seems highly irresponsible not to.
CMS:
After it experienced its own attacks in 2003, Saudi Arabia started implementing its own anti-terrorism measures, including firing over 3,000 imams and retraining 20,000 others.
"There has not been a single terrorist act carried out by a foreigner ( not a naturalized citizen) since 9/11."
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Yes, this was Obama's latest sophistry on terrorism. As if being a "foreigner" meant those gunned down or run over by domestic Islamic extremists don't count.
I would argue that our anti-terrorism resources are already stretched too thin and cannot even keep track of domestic threats.
And our vetting process is certainly not fool-proof. We just know what Obama claimed. He has proven to be less than forthcoming when pursuing a program he wants. In Syria, there are no records or government to work with on vetting. There have been a few refugees indicted.*
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/the-arrest-of-iraqi...
SMB:
According to UNHCR (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees): 50.5% percent of refugees are women. Between ages 18-59, 23.9% are female, 21.8 percent are male.
There is a program that allows refugees with family in the US to bypass UN screening.
I tend to take ISIS at its word when it claims it will infiltrate refugees. Seems highly irresponsible not to.
CMS:
After it experienced its own attacks in 2003, Saudi Arabia started implementing its own anti-terrorism measures, including firing over 3,000 imams and retraining 20,000 others.
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Excellent reporting sir. Yes, Saudi Arabia, their birthplace, is itself threatened by the Salafis. I don't know how many Americans are complete fools, but judging by the wailing about something so sensible, it is an alarming number.
Many people seek power to do good; some people want power since it feels good.
His (ghost) writer that wrote Art of the Deal, has repeatedly said Mr Trump has "no soul".
Former Mexican President has tweeted "America was already Great and you happened". Mr Trump purportedly referred to his brother, an airline pilot, as a bus driver and when that brother passed away from alcohol dependency, made sure the brother's young children did not inherit any of the family's wealth.
People point out that the countries from which the 9/11 hijackers originated but didn't get on his list of nations not on his forbidden list have one thing in common; they have a Trump property in them.
President Trump fails to acknowledge that refugees that are allowed to enter the US are already subjected to "extreme vetting" lasing about two years.
His (ghost) writer that wrote Art of the Deal, has repeatedly said Mr Trump has "no soul".
Former Mexican President has tweeted "America was already Great and you happened". Mr Trump purportedly referred to his brother, an airline pilot, as a bus driver and when that brother passed away from alcohol dependency, made sure the brother's young children did not inherit any of the family's wealth.
People point out that the countries from which the 9/11 hijackers originated but didn't get on his list of nations not on his forbidden list have one thing in common; they have a Trump property in them.
President Trump fails to acknowledge that refugees that are allowed to enter the US are already subjected to "extreme vetting" lasing about two years.
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The ban is one thing, but detention at airports is another. There's suggestions that people may be detained for up to a month. Arbitrary detention is the first symptom of authoritarian government.
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John McCain should be on the front lines of these protests. John McCain was detained and tortured. How can he sit still while this happens to others?
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Sen. McCain has been speaking out at every opportunity about Trump's impulsive pronouncements and policies. He was on Face the Nation this morning and spoke passionately about this issue.
Krishna, he is not speaking out against the ban, he is complaining about how it was installed. He needs to stand up for the basic rights that are being violated.
Krishna, you need to pay more attention to what you see, hear and read.
Krishna, you need to pay more attention to what you see, hear and read.
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Remember: Radical Islamic terrorism kills more Muslims than any other ethnic group. While non-Muslims may be guilty of being infadels Muslims who do not follow the specific ultra-conservative views of Sharia law are also just as dead under groups like ISIS. That is why so many wish to flee to countries where ISIS does not hold sway, and why our most valuable allies against ISIL are Muslim groups who understandably do ot want to live under these groups. Telling our allies we will not shelter them if need arises is a slap in the face to the brave men and women fighting ISIS every day.
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We should help them fight Isis and to reform Islam OVER THERE. Not here. When Islam decides to join the 21st century and truly embrace tolerance and democracy (something it has done nowhere), we can let them in. Not before.
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The definition of a terrorist is someone who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Who does that describe? Our new administration, or refugees from the horrors of the Middle East? Or our own citizens and industries who are responsible for the 8000+ gun deaths in this country earch year?
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The Trump show is just begining as he bounces around the Oval Office in rushes of testosterone and glee. Steve Bannon is puppeteering Trump as Putin is pulling Steve's chain. And, the world goes round and round.
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Since the sanctions against Iran were lifted, they bought 100 Airbus and 80 Boeing. Yesterday, reading the French press, I realised that they are laughing about how stupid you guys are. They think that they are going to get all of that business. Your president has just cost Boeing an order worth more than 15 billions.
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That's just the beginning. Europeans are boycotting American goods and services, thinking over vacations in the United States, etc. Donald Trump has reaped quite a firestorm of hatred and alienation, even outside of the Islamic world.
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. . . .and we will know they are Christians by their love . . . .????
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Reality is that I tell others that they are Christian, having them tell me has no substance.
DHS Issued this statement during the night:
The DHS Department Of Homeland Security Response To Recent Litigation
January 29, 2017 —
The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety. President Trump’s Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.
The DHS Department Of Homeland Security Response To Recent Litigation
January 29, 2017 —
The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people. President Trump’s Executive Orders remain in place—prohibited travel will remain prohibited, and the U.S. government retains its right to revoke visas at any time if required for national security or public safety. President Trump’s Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.
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And who do you think wrote that?
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The US is now allied with President Assad and President Putin by declaring that every Syrian citizen is a potential terrorist.
We've lost our moral compass as a nation in only eight days.
We've lost our moral compass as a nation in only eight days.
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Papers please! No need to study the history of Nazi Germany! It is happening again in real time. I am sick with dispair for these people and for the damage this Socialpathic " leader" is doing to the United States of America! Impeach him Republicans or watch your party go down the drain for your cowardice in keeping silent!
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What a sorry day for the United States. Sorry that we've managed to get such a man as president, but sorrier still that so many Congressional Republicans continue to tow the line with such an inept, evil person in order to further their own agenda. Patently this move is not about securing our borders. If the Republicans were sincere about this issue they'd do something about gun control and something smart about healthcare. But there really is no interest in saving lives, is there? Just feeding red meat to the proletariat.
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Very disturbed by how eager the DHS seems to be going along with this stuff. I like to think if I worked for DHS in immigration I would be strongly considering resigning right now, before I sold my soul completely to the devil.
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Immigration laws are evil. It's a fundamental human right to live wherever you please. Say no to fascism!
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The business management expert once again fails to manage the business of government. As much as I detest this action at all, I detest the way it was enacted.
There was no reason for this despicable policy to have been put in place this way, with no notice to anyone here or abroad whose lives it would effect so dearly, except for the intent displayed - to cause the most confusion and disruption, pain and anger and humiliation possible in the lives of the Muslims, and make no mistake about who this was aimed at, that it would effect.
This would, in turn, accomplish two things always forefront on Trumps mind; his aggrandizement among his base and supporters, and his name in the headlines and on the lips of people here and around the world.
Like any good TV reality show host, no publicity is bad publicity.
That's why you cannot explain or defend this action with logical answers to questions like "why those particular countries and not others which pose equal or greater threat" or "why so quickly with no procedures in place to quickly process those here and abroad who had already been deeply vetted".
The means justify the ends in Trump's alternative fact, truthiness, Newspeak world.
The real questions that must be answered is "How did we all wind up being forced to live in it with him?" And "Is there any way out?"
There was no reason for this despicable policy to have been put in place this way, with no notice to anyone here or abroad whose lives it would effect so dearly, except for the intent displayed - to cause the most confusion and disruption, pain and anger and humiliation possible in the lives of the Muslims, and make no mistake about who this was aimed at, that it would effect.
This would, in turn, accomplish two things always forefront on Trumps mind; his aggrandizement among his base and supporters, and his name in the headlines and on the lips of people here and around the world.
Like any good TV reality show host, no publicity is bad publicity.
That's why you cannot explain or defend this action with logical answers to questions like "why those particular countries and not others which pose equal or greater threat" or "why so quickly with no procedures in place to quickly process those here and abroad who had already been deeply vetted".
The means justify the ends in Trump's alternative fact, truthiness, Newspeak world.
The real questions that must be answered is "How did we all wind up being forced to live in it with him?" And "Is there any way out?"
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Donald Trump has destroyed the patriotism of Neil Diamond's "Coming to America."
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Is that enshrined in the same section of the United States Code as the enscription on the statue of liberty?
Excellent point. Most Americans know far more about folksy slogans than they do law or the constitution.
How many reckless actions like this will it take for an impeachment of this embarrassment of a president?
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The image of embarassment you so rightfully evoke is of importance only to Trump. He is impervious to shame, he thinks he everything is 'very very ' great, surrounded with the 'best' minds in the 'business'. I simply do not know why the rest of the federal government tolerates this folly.
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As long as our Constitution retains its 3 legs of power, we have a chance against this man-child. But he has filled his cabinet and advisor roles with sycophants, he as a Congress that is obviously now a feckless self-preserving tool, and he soon will be taking control of the Judiciary. I think the only thing that can stop him is his own delusion of Christ-like grandeur - there will, one day soon be a red line that even his minions can't cross on his behalf.
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The Dept of Homeland security said "[It is] a first step in re-establishing control over America's borders and national security".
That is a POLITICAL STATEMENT. What is the DHS doing making political statements justifying its actions? Are they saying that the previous administration did not have our security under control? That's polirtical propaganda, pure and simple - and propaganda is illegal for a US government entity. When security agencies start giving propaganda statements in support of the current administration we are in a lot of trouble as a free nation.
That is a POLITICAL STATEMENT. What is the DHS doing making political statements justifying its actions? Are they saying that the previous administration did not have our security under control? That's polirtical propaganda, pure and simple - and propaganda is illegal for a US government entity. When security agencies start giving propaganda statements in support of the current administration we are in a lot of trouble as a free nation.
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Yes, they are saying the previous administration did NOT have our security under control--a FACT proven by the Americans who needlessly, inexcuseable died in San Betnardino, Boston and other places, and no, it is not political to state proven facts.
"Other places"? what other places? Murder by immigrants is minuscule in comparison to murder by home-grown terrorists. It is minuscule compared to traffic accidents. You are just using your bias against people "not like you" to justify your hatred. The chances of any American being killed by a terrorist of any kind is far less than being struck by lightning.
Hmmmmmm.... Trump making good on his campaign promises! How unusual is that? Guess that is why everyone is so surprised? Ok, not a world wide catastrophe that NYTimes and international media seems to report as only about 300 immigrants were affected... Still, it does sell papers and creates angst in those who listen to the fear mongers....
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If it is wrong it is wrong. it hardly needs to be a world-wide catastrophe to be evil and wrong.
We should not lose sight of the important fact that there was not just a wise and humane judge who ruled to protect innocent, needlessly harmed individuals, but also the ACLU, which once again has demonstrated its essential importance as a defender of our individual civil liberties.
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Please start impeachment procedures now, before this madman does more harm to your country and the world.
This man is not sane. One week in and 4 years more of this?
This man is not sane. One week in and 4 years more of this?
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What would be the basis for impeachment proceedings? There's a LOT of people who support what Trump is doing.
A country that has bombed and droned innocent civilans, mostly Muslims for the past 8 years, is now suddenly appaled, shocked, disgusted, outraged, etc etc! What's wrong with this picture???
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I've looked hard but with the exception of an Iranian born person who came to the US as a two year old and who actually killed no one (the 2006 UNC vehicle attack), I have not been able to find anyone from the proscribed countries who committed a terrorist act in the United States.
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William,
Your research skills are found wanting.
Ohio State. 9/2016.
Your research skills are found wanting.
Ohio State. 9/2016.
fair enough-- that's two. only, one recent, hardly the basis for blanket and unnecessarily provocative policies
Does he have plan for this country to combat the issues that exist here? In his first week of office, all he's done is burn bridges and make irrational decisions. If this is leadership, it's twisted and distorted to serve the needs of only some of the people.
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What a mess this is. I'm not a religious person, but God help us all.
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Dismantle the Statue of Liberty and auction the parts off to pay for the wall.
The torch would make a beautiful piece of garden art for some billionaires backyard.
The plaque alone would pay for a few miles
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe
free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
The torch would make a beautiful piece of garden art for some billionaires backyard.
The plaque alone would pay for a few miles
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe
free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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It would be more appropriate for Canada to acquire the Statue of Liberty for free. Let Trump finance the costs for shipping and installation.
The Nazis believed the Germany will stay ahead of other nations based solely on the might of it's (powerful!) military, industry and a strong and cultivated sense patriotism, defined as "us vs them". The only values they held important were raw strength and the "who is with us" (see the last US statement in the UN).
I repeat, no values, just "right of the might" and "what is in it for us".
Is history still taught in the US schools? Like, where do such things lead?
I repeat, no values, just "right of the might" and "what is in it for us".
Is history still taught in the US schools? Like, where do such things lead?
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Trump only banned countries he didn't do business with? More fake news from the left. All 7 countries were directly pulled from Obama's Visa Waiver Program:
"Under the Act, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the VWP:
- Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, or countries listed under specified designation lists (currently including Iran and Sudan) at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).
- Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions)."
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/visa-waiver-program/vi...
"Under the Act, travelers in the following categories are no longer eligible to travel or be admitted to the United States under the VWP:
- Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, or countries listed under specified designation lists (currently including Iran and Sudan) at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions).
- Nationals of VWP countries who have been present in Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, at any time on or after March 1, 2011 (with limited government/military exceptions)."
https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/visa-waiver-program/vi...
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So what about Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest exporter of radical Islam, and a major source of Isis funding?
Trump is a playing a traitor's game pure and simple. He is aiding the enemy in every possible respect, from Russia's despotic Putin to the "radical Islamic terrorists" from whom he claims to demand protection. In one ignorant and bigoted stroke he has instantly destroyed any willingness of Muslims, and even non-Muslims in Muslim nations, to offer aid and intelligence to our own military, putting it in needless jeopardy.
If Trump's remaining weeks are anything like this one, Trump will either achieve a Putinesque and despotic enslavement of much of our nation or he will end up just another ignominious inmate of one of the federal prisons he is probably hoping to fill to overflowing with all who he considers un-American.
Yet many Americans continue to think he is just keeping campaign promises. Well, bully for him, isn't it?
If Trump's remaining weeks are anything like this one, Trump will either achieve a Putinesque and despotic enslavement of much of our nation or he will end up just another ignominious inmate of one of the federal prisons he is probably hoping to fill to overflowing with all who he considers un-American.
Yet many Americans continue to think he is just keeping campaign promises. Well, bully for him, isn't it?
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You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time.
This fool is fooling less and less people.
At some point there will be only one person fooled by him and it will be the one he sees in the mirror.
This fool is fooling less and less people.
At some point there will be only one person fooled by him and it will be the one he sees in the mirror.
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Eight days. That is all it has taken to demonstrate beyond doubt that the President is a neurotic, malicious and utterly dangerous individual. Demonstrations against him willl surely grow but will have little impact on the man's reliance on his Twitter base. The courts, we can hope, will provide some sanity and comfort. But the ultimate question is how long Republican politicians can tolerate the spectacle of authoritarian seat of the pants presidential overreach and incompetence. A month, six months? How long?
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The NYTimes realizes many readers scan news headlines not article content. That headline leaves a mental inprint on the reader as that reader scans through news items. This headline suggests the whole executive action was blocked. However the article states: "The judge’s ruling blocked part of the president’s actions, preventing the government from deporting some arrivals who found themselves ensnared by the presidential order." Provide concise but accurate headlines. Thank you.
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Trump (under Bannon) will go as far as he is allowed. We are not used to having to be awake and in a state of anxiety. But it's a test...
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Finally . . . someone with the balls to stand up to this ridiculous excuse
of a President. Less than a hundred years ago someone in Germany promised to make Germany GREAT again and a CHRISTIAN nation . . . how soon we forget.
of a President. Less than a hundred years ago someone in Germany promised to make Germany GREAT again and a CHRISTIAN nation . . . how soon we forget.
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To think and remember many said Mr. Obama was an imperial President with his executive orders and a disrupter of lives due to many of those orders.
Well, here is our real "imperial" President who's ideas has cause more confusion, concern and some laughter in his 8 days in office than many previous Presidents have done in their full terms of 4 to 8 years, save Mr. Nixon.
Mr. Trump, our Presidential Apprentice his beginning help Mr. Nixon appear to be the saner of the two.
Well, here is our real "imperial" President who's ideas has cause more confusion, concern and some laughter in his 8 days in office than many previous Presidents have done in their full terms of 4 to 8 years, save Mr. Nixon.
Mr. Trump, our Presidential Apprentice his beginning help Mr. Nixon appear to be the saner of the two.
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Dr. Mohsen Omrani, a postdoctoral fellow in my lab at Rutgers University's Brain Health Institute, is a dual citizen of Iran and Canada. Because Iran is his birthplace, he cannot re-enter the US after visiting his family in Canada this weekend. Dr. Omrani has been working in my lab for over 1 year. This senseless ban will prevent him from continuing much-needed research into the causes of mental disorders and develop new treatments for illnesses such as ADHD, autism, and depression.
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Unfortunately Dr Aston-Jones, Trump lacks a sense of irony to fully appreciate the import of the sort of medical research you perform with Dr. Omrani. Perhaps your findings will lead to treatments which can alleviate the multiple neurological pathologies which apparently afflict Trump.
There is a reason, a good reason, that laws and executive orders go through a process that involves all stakeholders. But DJT thinks he's the king and his minions don't stop him doing so, therefor you can expect more of the same.
Now it's question-time:
1. What would you do if you were BMW, VW or Mercedes and had to do business in a country where some ruler causes confusion every day?
2. What would you do if you are German, Italian or French if you don't know if you could actually exit the plane that would bring you to your vacation in the U.S.?
3. What would you think of the U.S. if your name is Merkel, Hollande or Vanderbellen in terms of trust, alliances, treaties and the like?
DJT is ruining the U.S. with these half-cocked stuff. He's ruining the reputation, the relations, the alliances, everything. His policies itself are bad enough, but the implementation is so bad it can only be called amateurish! They had over 60 days of transition period to get it right but they wasted that time with attacking the opponent they had beaten and the president they were going to replace.
Given that DJT didn't take his briefings during the transition one can only wonder what would happen if - let's say - the Fiji islands would attack California in rowboats. Would DJT be able to handle that invasion? Or would his style of confusion, uncertainty and anti-intellectualism lead to the erection of giant stone heads along the west coast? Just wait and see...
Now it's question-time:
1. What would you do if you were BMW, VW or Mercedes and had to do business in a country where some ruler causes confusion every day?
2. What would you do if you are German, Italian or French if you don't know if you could actually exit the plane that would bring you to your vacation in the U.S.?
3. What would you think of the U.S. if your name is Merkel, Hollande or Vanderbellen in terms of trust, alliances, treaties and the like?
DJT is ruining the U.S. with these half-cocked stuff. He's ruining the reputation, the relations, the alliances, everything. His policies itself are bad enough, but the implementation is so bad it can only be called amateurish! They had over 60 days of transition period to get it right but they wasted that time with attacking the opponent they had beaten and the president they were going to replace.
Given that DJT didn't take his briefings during the transition one can only wonder what would happen if - let's say - the Fiji islands would attack California in rowboats. Would DJT be able to handle that invasion? Or would his style of confusion, uncertainty and anti-intellectualism lead to the erection of giant stone heads along the west coast? Just wait and see...
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Much of the support for Donald Trump's ban arises from a departure of middle east immigrants from the "melting pot" ideal. Many Americans perceive establishment of "foreign" cultural behaviors rather than the assimilation of past immigrants. They ally it to cultures that differ from the European on which our own was established. We learn that disrespect for the God causes murderous responses, while here when Jesus Christ's figure is set in a bottle of urine and placed in an American museum exhibit, we think it poor taste and offensive, but we do not become murderous. Then there are women cloaked from head to foot only their eyes showing who expect to be hired by American companies in any way? Simply stated it is this differential in what Americans have established via their connection to Western ideals fuels much of the support for Donald Trump.
Not true. Consult the constitution.
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Trump is spanking the wrong kid. If a kid has violent behavior, you ground him and punish him, not his siblings. If a man kills someone, you prosecute him, not the people standing next to him trying to get out of the way.
Trump never asked himself these two questions.
1. How many terrorist acts have been done by refugees? Answer: zero.
2. How many terrorist acts were done by applicants for immigration from any of these 7 countries? Answer: zero.
Even if one immigrant were to commit a terrorist act, does that mean all immigrants should be banned? What an impossible standard you are making. If one american commits a crime, all of us americans should be imprisoned?
What are you thinking?
Trump never asked himself these two questions.
1. How many terrorist acts have been done by refugees? Answer: zero.
2. How many terrorist acts were done by applicants for immigration from any of these 7 countries? Answer: zero.
Even if one immigrant were to commit a terrorist act, does that mean all immigrants should be banned? What an impossible standard you are making. If one american commits a crime, all of us americans should be imprisoned?
What are you thinking?
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And how many terrorist acts have been perpetrated by people who came here from Saudi Arabia, or Egypt--countries not on Trump's list?--countries where he's got big business investments.
We should all consider donating tot he ACLU. They're going to need a tremendous amount of support over the next four years: https://action.aclu.org/secure/donate-to-aclu
Can anyone tell me why Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan are NOT on Trump's trumped up banned state list?
All I got is he owns properties in all of these.
His voters don't expect ME to agree this is a promise kept, do they? The man is CRAZY!!
All I got is he owns properties in all of these.
His voters don't expect ME to agree this is a promise kept, do they? The man is CRAZY!!
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He calls this 'the art of the deal', but it looks more like the 'turn of the screw' in many different ways.
As a child of immigrants I want my country to help immigrants, refugees. I don't agree with his broad un-nuanced approach to the matter but I will say this: I agree that anyone who is allowed to come to America needs to be vetted and needs to accept and adopt our values and our democratic ideals. If you don't agree with western values of freedom and equality etc. Then I don't want you here. My parents came here, they became Americans and I was raised as an American. I wasn't covered head to toe in a sheet with only my eyes visible, trailing 10 feet behind a male wherever I went. I welcome people of all ethnicities I just demand they adopt our values and our culture if they want to come here. Is that so unreasonable?
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Yes your demands are extremely unreasonable. Do you remember grade school history? What brought the first groups of individuals here? Those people left the relative safety of established society for the unknown… And what was their purpose? The freedom to practice their religion as they wished. The "Puritans" willingly uprooted their lives and the comfort of th eir homes in 17th century EnglandA to take a journey that many described as pure hell and it wasn't over when they finally arrived here. They were not prepared for the raw wilderness that they found here and many died from malnourishment and exposure to the incredible cold. Despite these hardships,more than 80% of those who came over on the Mayflower were happy to work hard and stick it out here in their new Home because they were able to worship without persecution. The basic rights upon which our country would ultimately be built: freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to bear arms... originated with these first people to come to these sh Dr ores.
In addition it is why we also separate Church from State something that the GOP is conveniently ignoring more and more. I am a Christian yet I was shocked at the many times Christ was invoked at the recent Inauguration.
In addition it is why we also separate Church from State something that the GOP is conveniently ignoring more and more. I am a Christian yet I was shocked at the many times Christ was invoked at the recent Inauguration.
Obamas supposed guiding directive on foreign policy : "Don't do stupid things", as Clinton said, could not possibly be a guiding policy. But then, it was before Trump.
Those protesting around the country President Trump's travel ban did not vote for him and loathe him. They will hate every thing he does so he might as well keep us safe. It is the prudent thing to do to implement a temporary ban. After they have been cleared, they can enter freely.
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Guess you ought to look at the news. The Trump filth had their criminality explained to them by the court and have retracted their mandate.
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Why do you say it is "prudent" and that it "well (sic) keep us safe" WMK? Keep in mind that since 9/11, with the exception of one of the two involved in San Bernadino, all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil have been by U.S. citizens. So what is the reason to focus on these particular people in this particular way, rather than putting the emphasis where the facts over the last 16 years show resources and attention are actually needed?
Bravo to Judge Donnelly for ordering a stay of President Trump's ill-advised executive order sweeping aside constitutional rights of due process of our Muslims. Three cheers for the rule of law which will restore order as the ACLU case unfolds. This is the way American justice is supposed to work. I have faith that it will work here. Just watch.
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At this stage, I can only see three possible outcomes for Donald Trump : 1/impeachment ; 2/removal from office for mental health reasons, perhaps camouflaged under the guise of fatigue ; 3/a forced ouster, à la Nicolae Ceucescu in 1989, if his cronies continue to stonewall while the 'executive orders' of inanity are generated. Trump must be gone from the scene for the greater good of America and the world at large.
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Donald J. Trump has started turning the United States to a regime similar to an authoritarian country way back to some forty years ago. Luckly the United States is an institution which balances executive powr with judicial and congress.
It is the time to see whether the US government can pass Trump's tests to see if the system works.
It is the time to see whether the US government can pass Trump's tests to see if the system works.
"It's working out very nicely." What alternative universe is this man living in? Even Fox News has reported on the chaos. And "nicely" for whom?
For refugees with long awaited clearance and visas? For green card holders? Trump's blind and cruel gloating only compounds his repeated lack of foresight and utter disdain for the suffering of others. He may be the legitimately elected President of the United States but that does not
stop him from being an incompetent despot, a "loser" of a human being and an embarrassment to the nation.
For refugees with long awaited clearance and visas? For green card holders? Trump's blind and cruel gloating only compounds his repeated lack of foresight and utter disdain for the suffering of others. He may be the legitimately elected President of the United States but that does not
stop him from being an incompetent despot, a "loser" of a human being and an embarrassment to the nation.
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What is next. No Irish need apply? American Indians ousted? Italians go back to Italy? Asians get out? Mexicans, you don't have a chance? Go back to Africa? and then go back to Europe, Canada, South America, Australia, etc?
I am shaking to think that the Trump administration thinks this is right?
None of us are safe. And after the above is accomplished all of the women and elderly will be next.
Where are the outcries from Congress? Why is the Supreme Court sitting on their hands?
Shame on Trump, Kelley Ann, Bannon, Kushner, et al
I am shaking to think that the Trump administration thinks this is right?
None of us are safe. And after the above is accomplished all of the women and elderly will be next.
Where are the outcries from Congress? Why is the Supreme Court sitting on their hands?
Shame on Trump, Kelley Ann, Bannon, Kushner, et al
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Guttersnipe and opportunists down to the last woman and man. They must leave the White House as possible before their stir further havoc and continue to destroy the United State's not so glorious image in the world.
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Here we are. little more than a week into the disastrous presidency of the con artist Trump, and he and his corrupt organization are causing worldwide chaos. Let's tell this lot to empty their desks now and get lost lest they cause even more trouble.
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Members of Congress have the rules of the United States Constitution to stop the madness of Donald Trump (I refuse to call him "president"). To the detriment of this country and the world, they are spineless, and obviously cowed by this would-be dictator. Only the continuous oversight of the press and the people who are willing to stand up and march for our values, will he be contained. This is our assignment for the next four years.
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It is sickening to think that a country based on immigrants, searching and finding a new safe home to live and raise their children, is now run by a bigot who makes these sweeping accusations and decisions.
Foreign ? Stay out , Go Home ... THIS is home to millions of people who were born in foreign countries ..
The United States of American was founded by foreigners !!!!!
Now it has turned into a bigots paradise.
Foreign ? Stay out , Go Home ... THIS is home to millions of people who were born in foreign countries ..
The United States of American was founded by foreigners !!!!!
Now it has turned into a bigots paradise.
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Trump is enjoying the chaos swirling around him as it puts him in the center of attention.
The chaos he is causing grows daily. He gleefully has his little fingers on the nuclear trigger. We are all in danger.
I urge congress to do something immediately to stop him. And I plead with Homeland Security and our armed forces to, in good conscience, ignore his orders and stand up to his threats.
This fool is obviously mentally and morally lacking and unfit to govern.
The chaos he is causing grows daily. He gleefully has his little fingers on the nuclear trigger. We are all in danger.
I urge congress to do something immediately to stop him. And I plead with Homeland Security and our armed forces to, in good conscience, ignore his orders and stand up to his threats.
This fool is obviously mentally and morally lacking and unfit to govern.
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This is week one of an already horrific presidency. I shudder to think where will be in four years. With this sick, sad, callous president running the show there is a good possibility that we will not be here at all.
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How is this Constitutional? This is discrimination based on country of origin.
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Donate to the ACLU. Now.
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Today I met with an Iraqi family and it was incredible.
Two Saturdays every January, our school gets together and canvases the neighborhoods in order to tell as many families as we can that they have a high quality free public elementary school in their neighborhood.
My co-workers and I knock on a lot doors. Most people are very nice, but as soon as we knocked on the door of this family they welcomed us into their home and served us tea and cookies. We had significant language barriers - but, it didn’t matter - they welcomed us immediately.
We had a chance to talk about their wonderful family and how our school works unbelievably hard for every scholar because whether the student comes from Iraq or Indiana, Denver or Damascus kids are kids and brains are brains. I hope he lets us educate his children.
On such a dark day, an Iraqi man welcomed me into his home to meet his family and serve me food: I’m still at a loss of words.
Two Saturdays every January, our school gets together and canvases the neighborhoods in order to tell as many families as we can that they have a high quality free public elementary school in their neighborhood.
My co-workers and I knock on a lot doors. Most people are very nice, but as soon as we knocked on the door of this family they welcomed us into their home and served us tea and cookies. We had significant language barriers - but, it didn’t matter - they welcomed us immediately.
We had a chance to talk about their wonderful family and how our school works unbelievably hard for every scholar because whether the student comes from Iraq or Indiana, Denver or Damascus kids are kids and brains are brains. I hope he lets us educate his children.
On such a dark day, an Iraqi man welcomed me into his home to meet his family and serve me food: I’m still at a loss of words.
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Are you happy yet, Trumpists?
The man who refuses to pay taxes, to join the military for this country, keeps out an Iraqi who has helped our soldiers more than he has.
Disgusting.
The man who refuses to pay taxes, to join the military for this country, keeps out an Iraqi who has helped our soldiers more than he has.
Disgusting.
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I've been a prosecutor, a criminal defense attorney, and a civil rights attorney for over 25 years but never believed that we as a country would come to a point where any president would sign such a reckless, dangerous, and illegal executive order. The order is unquestionably illegal in regard to those who had already entered the country under visas. Legal counsel certainly informed the president of this but he simply didn't care. The president took an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," yet has never read it and shows utter contempt for it. A despot has no need for the founding documents of a democracy. It's nothing but a game to him; precious freedoms to be cast aside on his whim to satisfy zealots who claim to love our country but detest any rights enshrined in law which do not inure to their benefit. The American experiment, and our great democratic system, has succeeded in large part because of the limits the Constitution places on politicians, and none are more important that the limitations preventing a president from becoming a tyrant. Despite knowing all this, I held my breath awaiting the decision. Our system is not self-effectuating and many of its protections have been weekend over the last 35 years. This president has been in office 1 week yet has already created both an international crisis and a Constitutional crisis. This is merely his first salvo, brace yourself and be prepared for the countless legal battles ahead.
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And --gulp-- military battles, too. Trustafarian types like Trump love to play the vicarious military strategist, despite lacking any experience in the armed forces. THAT's what makes the world prone to danger : a wealthy dilettante who simply wants to get a thrill out of launching the first post-Second World War nuclear salvo towards some imagined enemy soon!
Bravo to your comment and ethics.
While the nation and the world focused on Mr. Trump's ban on Muslims, in the other ring of this circus he set up a very dangerous concentration of power in his and Mr. Brannon's hands. Key government officials (the director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) will now be excluded from key National Security Council meetings unless DJT and Bannon invite them. This feels like a Bannon inspired strategy of setting a big fire in one part of the city while he and his men go in to rob another part of the city. Dangerous men have taken power; our country is in danger.
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The rest of the world consists of outright racist countries.Their people think that they can enter the United States whenever they want-- no matter who they are. Foreigners think that the U.S should not have any laws and accomodate them at every turn. Outrageous. Unacceptable. I'm glad Trump is dealing with these ungrateful arrogant invaders.
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How did your ancestors invade American territory? I bet you've got some interesting détails to share, too.
According to these protesters and agitators, there can be NO limit on refugees and immigrants. Anyone who has read the Federalist papers and the documents debating the Constitution will understand this country was not founded on the idea that everyone from around the world has the right to come to the USA. I applaud President Trump's sensible and moderate executive order. I hope more severe measures follow.
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I would expect that this will be the first of many not very well thought out policies to be introduced and implemented by the new administration. As the rest of the country is very well aware, governing requires thought and nuance to determine the intended (and avoid the unintended, unconstitutional consequences) of their actions...something that is not readily available to a man willing to govern 144 characters at a time.
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The president said they were prepared and that it was orderly. It wasn't. He claimed it would prevent terrorists from entering the country. It won't. He signed the order with a smug look that seemed to say, "I'm in charge." He's been over-ruled by a judge and the rule of law. He is remarkably quiet, not knowing what to do next, and many Republicans are remarkably quiet, not knowing the stand they should take. They are running out of time. They will soon find themselves on the wrong side of history.
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So a couple of dozen people were in the pipeline when the ban hit? Whoop de do! A tiny price to pay for security. Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. Man, if only Hillary had campaigned in Wisconsin and Podesta hadn't given away his email login. The US is getting greater already. When you take down sacred cows, they squeal like pigs. There is going to be a whole lot more squealing in the days ahead, so get ready people!!
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I'm just pointing out a typo (?) which could change the meaning of a sentence.
"Mr. Trump — in office just a week — found himself accused of constitutional and legal overreach by two Iraqi immigrants, defended by the American Civil Liberties Union. "
That comma between immigrants and defended made me read it 3 times. I think it doesn't belong there. I first read it as he was accused but defended by the ACLU since "in office just a week" sets one up for having at least 2 different results.
These judges are heroes. I hope they continue reining in his overreach.
"Mr. Trump — in office just a week — found himself accused of constitutional and legal overreach by two Iraqi immigrants, defended by the American Civil Liberties Union. "
That comma between immigrants and defended made me read it 3 times. I think it doesn't belong there. I first read it as he was accused but defended by the ACLU since "in office just a week" sets one up for having at least 2 different results.
These judges are heroes. I hope they continue reining in his overreach.
Further evidence that Trump sees America as weak and afraid and makes decisions accordingly. Even refugees are a dire "threat" in his fact-free universe. He has demeaned the nation and embarrassed us all.
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Trump has this country on the edge of a constitutional crisis. With a congress that appears more than willing to go along with his actions or to keep its tail between its legs as he attempts to enact his outrageous, un-American policies, actions by groups like the A.C.L.U. will be critical. Resist.
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Countries that have business connections with Trump are noticeably absent. Why is that, trumpians? You voted for this nincompoop. Explain.
First week in and Trump has proven to we who have known this doofus for years to be the same know-nothing he's always been.
People in flyover country don't care. They love the guy. Wait until they see what many of Trump's actions in just the past week is going to harm them more than it is we elites in NYC. What are they going to think then? That we were right in warning them about Trump? I hope they don't expect us to do anything to save their be-hinds. They wanted this guy, this two-bit carny, they're going to get him, good and hard. And well-deserved at that.
DD
Manhattan
First week in and Trump has proven to we who have known this doofus for years to be the same know-nothing he's always been.
People in flyover country don't care. They love the guy. Wait until they see what many of Trump's actions in just the past week is going to harm them more than it is we elites in NYC. What are they going to think then? That we were right in warning them about Trump? I hope they don't expect us to do anything to save their be-hinds. They wanted this guy, this two-bit carny, they're going to get him, good and hard. And well-deserved at that.
DD
Manhattan
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What's next in Trump's executive order, ban Muslims from the military?
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This is just another form of McCarthyism, for those who remember those days. Why does America have to re-visit those dark embarrassing days? And why does the Republican party support such horrible behavior from this unqualified adolescent who is playing at being President?
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The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself ... because this is what happens: damage for no reason than an exercise in raw power, (and an amateurish one at that) and Consequences they are unprepared to deal with while increasing the risks to our troops and friends.
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Trump didn't pick the countries. Obama did. Read the executive order. No where in Trumps’s executive order is any country named except one (Syria)?
Instead Trump refers to section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12). that lists countries Obama targeted as part of his Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015
U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
Instead Trump refers to section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12). that lists countries Obama targeted as part of his Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015
U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
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Interesting, that Saudi Arabia was not included in the ban. I guess the 9/11 terrorists and Bin Laden don't count. Maybe because our ethically compromised President has business dealings with them? Or could it be perhaps, that this is yet another poorly constructed publicity stunt created by a man not smart enough to realize that he is not an autocrat?
Is this really happening? It seems so unreal that this, including other actions by Trump, is taking place in reality. It hurts me, really. It hurts my gut feeling. It is really sad. Cannot and do not want say anything further.
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Are the people who voted for Trump so stupid that they can't see that this half-measure ban continues to allow people from the countries with actual terrorists in to our country, while keeping refugees and permanent US residents out? And really, non-muslims will be given preferential treatment?
Trump and friends have done more destruction in one week than I could have ever imagined. It's time to RISE UP America!
Trump and friends have done more destruction in one week than I could have ever imagined. It's time to RISE UP America!
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This is a violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 13: Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and return to his country. It is time to oust this incredible phony so called leader who has made a mockery of the Free World.
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In 1995, McVeigh committed the Oklahoma City bombing. There was a massive loss of life, including dozens of children. The US government did not begin a policy of persecuting people with his last name or shared ancestry. Even though it was proven he had white supremacist connections, no "extreme vetting" of white supremacist groups was launched. In 1999, after the Columbine massacre that shocked the nation, there was no "extreme vetting" of lonely white boys on high school campuses -- even though a number of shootings followed. And after the 2012 Sandy Hook elementary school massacre (that Trump acolyte Alex Jones denies happened!), we did not launch measures to "extremely vet" anyone who watches Satanic content online, or has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Shocking crimes cannot be an argument for paranoid scapegoating in an advanced society. That approach has been shown in the past to lead to disaster, not security. It is unsound in terms of Criminology; it is unsound in terms of Sociology; it is unsustainable policy any way you look at it. Certainly, it violates basic precepts of the leading religions. This is Tribalism, pure & simple: only approved of by a minority of Americans who have not had the real world explained to them. Just because some Trump-worshippers never venture far from their survivalist bug-out camps does not mean other perfectly reasonable human beings must not be allowed to see more of this planet we share! Freedom of Association is Constitutional.
Now we're talking, pictures and news of what the people want, not what Trump wants.
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This is why we have a judiciary which acts as a "priest" for the rule of law. However, it takes a judge of special insight, and common sense, to understand that the only law that truly counts in this Universe is the Law of Cause and Effect! Now, if we can get our politicians, who are quick to proclaim enlightenment as the basis of democracy, without ever being enlightened themselves.
Still want to give him the benefit of the doubt?
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The American people are better than this. Much, much better than this. Thanks to voter supression, the vagaries of the Electoral College, James Comey, Vladimir Putin. and way too many people who didn't bother voting they are stuck with an ignorant narcissitic bully and racist for the next four years. I could not be prouder of our Prime Minister for tweeting Saturday "To those fleeing persecution, terror and war, Canadians will welcome you. Diversity is our strength." Canada will happily pick up the ball until the next US presidential election, when I'm sure traditional American values will triumph again. Our hearts are with the American resistance.
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So...how can it be a "Muslim Ban" if a "Christian family of 6" have also been denied entry?
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The entirte mess Mr Trump and his red supporters have dredgerd up is reminiscent of the St Louis fiasco, in which a ship loaded with Jewish refugees was refused permission to land her passengers from Germany in any nation in the West. All were forced back to Germany-and probably to death- to the smug delight of the Germans .
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This is exactly what happens in countries that have been taken over by dictators. America now has a president who has set a new first world record: virtually declaring a state of emergency when nothing has happened to trigger or justify it.
Every day a new assault on the values that sustain healthy democracies. The moral outrage and rank stupidity of it are hard to digest, but the ramifications are clear. Trump has just deftly positioned a giant target for ISIS, not only on his own back and the backs of his family, but on the whole country.
He's already destroying the US from within, trashing relationships with allies and pushing the world towards war. He won't last long in office. He's using tactics that worked for Putin in Russia, too intellectually challenged to see that America is a completely different ball game. The majority of Americans' capacity for push-back is formidable.
But how much damage can Trump do before he's pushed out? What a nightmare.
Every day a new assault on the values that sustain healthy democracies. The moral outrage and rank stupidity of it are hard to digest, but the ramifications are clear. Trump has just deftly positioned a giant target for ISIS, not only on his own back and the backs of his family, but on the whole country.
He's already destroying the US from within, trashing relationships with allies and pushing the world towards war. He won't last long in office. He's using tactics that worked for Putin in Russia, too intellectually challenged to see that America is a completely different ball game. The majority of Americans' capacity for push-back is formidable.
But how much damage can Trump do before he's pushed out? What a nightmare.
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May be the Judge should ask President Trump a basic question<" Mr. President did you read the order that you signed?"
I can bet he did not bother to read the whole document. I am dreading when there is another matter of actual national security importance if he would/can read the document and understand the consequences of signing such proclamations. This is not a kingdom, it’s a republic. I leave it to others to explain the meaning of republic.
It is shameful and it disgraces the whole country bar Probably Potus.
I can bet he did not bother to read the whole document. I am dreading when there is another matter of actual national security importance if he would/can read the document and understand the consequences of signing such proclamations. This is not a kingdom, it’s a republic. I leave it to others to explain the meaning of republic.
It is shameful and it disgraces the whole country bar Probably Potus.
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President Obama - did you (or anyone else) read the ACA before you signed it? Which do you think had more effect on America. This inconvenienced 100 people. Oh the horror!
One is due to compassion/ basic human decency and the other due to HATE - choice is yours to make Michael F.
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I'm sure the stopped immigrants are shocked and saddened by the executive order but it was widely rumored that the immigration ban would be put into effect shortly after the inauguration. People were warned not to travel.
I am a veteran and civil servant and the child of immigrants - the oath that I took was to "defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Mr. Trump gives America a bad name and the only way we can defend our country is to resist him and the Party he represents. Mobilize, donate, participate, - a House with a Democratic majority can move to impeach. A Democratic Senate can convict and remove him from office.
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May this be the first of a legal avalanche of suits to bury Trump's illegal actions. There is no other way for the American people to protect themselves from this madman and his sycophantic minions.
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What Mr. Trump actually signed was the surrender papers for Al Qaeda, ISIS and other terrorist groups. Chaos, suspension of freedoms and the sowing of mistrust have been the principle aims of terrorist threats and attacks. At 4:42 p.m. on Friday, January 27 the United States of America lost the so-called War on Terror.
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Is there anyone close to Trump that can have him committed? The man is seriously mentally ill and is a clear and present danger to our country. Is there a decent adult in the WH or Congress that can act to protect the country from him? We need that person now to save our country and our democracy. Please, it's not all about dollars and power, it is about life and liberty for all. The dollars need to wait or you will not have any dollars to spend or life to live...
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The ACLU said they'd see Trump in court and indeed they did. And we the people took it to the streets. We cannot allow Trump to undermine our civil liberties. A shout out to Gov Cuomo and Gov McAuliffe.
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This headline is misleading. When you read the article, the judge's one page order only allowed those who were traveling at the time to be removed, and a second judge's order issued a temporary restraining order for a week to block removal of those with green cards being detained at dulles. This is blurry different than the headline that screams JUDGE BLOCKS TRUMP ORDER ON REFUGEES.
The courts are really the last bulwark against this coup that have taken over the country. Congress has either signed on or will not oppose Trump in any meaningful manner and it is only a matter of time before Trump stops allowing media access to the White House or other administration information sources, restricts pubic information form public agencies the way he did wight he Park Service, and literally (and seriously) turns his goons loose on peaceful protestors. 2017 is going to make 1967, 1968, and 1969 look quaint and peaceful and Trump will make Nixon look like a nice, reasonable guy.
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This quote from Trump says it all - "t’s not a Muslim ban, but we were totally prepared,” he said. “It’s working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over.” He is mentally unfit for office!! He can't even acknowledge what he has done and he a) too stupid, b) too evil, c) too mentally unbalanced, or d) all of the above, to face the facts as to the consequences and impact of his actions. He needs to be removed from office. Trying to reason with a lunatic is a losing proposition.
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Trump apologists often keep repeating how he is only cracking down on illegal aliens and has nothing against those who are here legally. Really?
If Lawful Permanent Residents (green card holders) can be banned from returning to the only home they have just because they were born in one of the 7 countries on the list, it is not too hard to see how even some US citizens could be next. This EO is even more extreme than simply "banning all Muslims".
If Lawful Permanent Residents (green card holders) can be banned from returning to the only home they have just because they were born in one of the 7 countries on the list, it is not too hard to see how even some US citizens could be next. This EO is even more extreme than simply "banning all Muslims".
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Miller and bannon ran this show. Why are these two no nothing's in charge?
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How could trump and his cohorts not see that his ban would cause world wide confusion and disorder? Trump is a madman and all this confusion and heart ache is the result of his sick in the head POTUS and all of this in a matter of one week.
It will not be long before the whole system crashes. Hedge fund managers, multi billionaires have built and are building home sites in Zeeland. The rich in Silicone Valley are running or talking scared. Read the New Yorker article, Jan. 30, 2017, SURVIVAL OF THE RICHEST, P.3. Very interesting read.
It will not be long before the whole system crashes. Hedge fund managers, multi billionaires have built and are building home sites in Zeeland. The rich in Silicone Valley are running or talking scared. Read the New Yorker article, Jan. 30, 2017, SURVIVAL OF THE RICHEST, P.3. Very interesting read.
When do the riots and Molotov cocktails start?
Every Republican member of Congress needs to be forced by constituents to take a stand on the record in support of this reckless, poorly executed and divisive, if not unconstitutional, executive order of their party's president. They are ones I hold accountable for all of President Trump's actions because they are the only ones who can legally rein him in.
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On vetting
Just heard gates make a ridiculous and pointless statement “Any effort to improve national security…”
That is an incredibly ambiguous and irresponsible statement.
We can and should assume current efforts are the best possible effort and if some thing needs improving then that specific fault & the specific fix should be identified publicly.
That lack of reason is why we have an executive order but no specifics. If there were a problem with the vetting of immigrants we would have been told exactly what that problem is. But there is no actual problem only fear, cowardly cowardly cowardly fear. If there were a known problem with the vetting process you can rest assured those who like to destroy our government to make money out of the fake fixes they sell would surely be telling us what those problems are.
So again there is no substance behind the fear based assertions that indicate there is some unreasonable amount of danger in allowing those whom have passed the existing process to act on the rights they have earned to enter our country or reside here etc.
There is more proof of this in Mr. Precious interviews this morning. He stated as if it were normal that the fact of traveling back to visit family or friends was reason enough to stop people returning here and ask “extra” questions. Never mind how wrong that is it’s a diversion from the order to stop he was “talking” about. They know they are wrong this order is only political pandering.
Just heard gates make a ridiculous and pointless statement “Any effort to improve national security…”
That is an incredibly ambiguous and irresponsible statement.
We can and should assume current efforts are the best possible effort and if some thing needs improving then that specific fault & the specific fix should be identified publicly.
That lack of reason is why we have an executive order but no specifics. If there were a problem with the vetting of immigrants we would have been told exactly what that problem is. But there is no actual problem only fear, cowardly cowardly cowardly fear. If there were a known problem with the vetting process you can rest assured those who like to destroy our government to make money out of the fake fixes they sell would surely be telling us what those problems are.
So again there is no substance behind the fear based assertions that indicate there is some unreasonable amount of danger in allowing those whom have passed the existing process to act on the rights they have earned to enter our country or reside here etc.
There is more proof of this in Mr. Precious interviews this morning. He stated as if it were normal that the fact of traveling back to visit family or friends was reason enough to stop people returning here and ask “extra” questions. Never mind how wrong that is it’s a diversion from the order to stop he was “talking” about. They know they are wrong this order is only political pandering.
Correction: We are back to the fifteen century...
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It's OK to err on the side of safety for all Americans living peacefully here. We can get it dialed in for minimum collateral damage AS LONG AS--ZERO chances are taken with American lives in the process. Not even ONE more San Bernardino life lost is excusable to avoid inconvenience people are railing against here. Many commenting here are absolutely suicidal in their priorities. Donald Trump, thank God, has the right priorities to protect our 350 million lives. All other concerns come only after that is guarranteed.
Donald Trump removed the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and the Director of National Intelligence from regular positions on the National Security Council. They will only be in attendance if Trump deems that "their expertise are required." But Trump has appointed Steve Bannon to the NSC.
Excluding the nation's high-ranking military officer and head of US intelligence community, but bringing on his white supremacist propaganda chief? Trump is the national security threat, not these refugees.
Excluding the nation's high-ranking military officer and head of US intelligence community, but bringing on his white supremacist propaganda chief? Trump is the national security threat, not these refugees.
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Disrupting airport operations and interfering with American's right to travel is not "peaceable assembly", nor is blocking an interstate highway, which was so popular among another interest group venting their anger recently.
Replace "Muslim terrorist" or "Syrians" with "jews", and we are back in Nazi Germany. Combine this directive with Trump's promotion of alt-right Bannon to a seat on the National Security Council, and we are in perilous times. How do we citizens make it clear this is to the direction we want our country to go, and how do we get our Republican senators to put country over partisan politics?
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Who cares if a few hundred people are inconvenienced in the name of national security.
You would care if it was your family, your co- worker, fellow student and neighbor.
And you should be FRIGHTENED that it is based on religion!
We who want Trump removed from office need to call for a General Strike against the United States. This voice of the people is done on a regular basis in Europe. People don't go to work that day, do spend a dime for a 24 hour period. For Americans who can't seem to go a day without spending something then complain about the cost of things is yet another example of American Hypocrisy.
America, put your money where your mouths are. Do something by simply doing nothing for one day. It will wake up Congress be assured of that.
DD
Manhattan
America, put your money where your mouths are. Do something by simply doing nothing for one day. It will wake up Congress be assured of that.
DD
Manhattan
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What about all those NOT inside the US borders, who are being kept from boarding planes globally. And why are other countries aiding and abetting Trump by keeping them from boarding? This isn't a 'non-starter', it is racist, it is a bigot and it is a bully. He's like a kid who has stolen the parents' car keys and is going for a joy ride, but this is PEOPLE's lives he is messing with. Try legislating guns, they have killed FAR more American's than Muslim's. Thank God I don't live in the US.
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Trump to the judge YOUR FIRED
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Whether any of the refugees pose a potential danger is a matter that I would think could be known only by the State Department and other government agencies. Presumably, the ACLU knows far too little to assess any potential danger. Yet, the judge concluded that there was no potential danger based on the information submitted by the ACLU. Her conclusion is that the ACLU knows more than the government about national security.
Wow!!!!!
Wow!!!!!
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I'd like to know why Mr. Darweesh was handcuffed. So shameful!! Who's decision was that??
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The A.C.L.U. also more appropriately told as The American Civil Liberties Union has been maligned by people of power for many years. To think that they are the only ones to stand up for Human Rights in this nation is appalling. Our Civil Liberties are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and steadily destroyed by a creeping military police establishment. This is known by all. For Judge Donnelly to stand on principles instead of power shocks me and delights me to know there are still good souls in the world of justice and injustice. I am significantly impressed by this news and hopeful that this sparks a front of resistance to the tyranny of a despotic ruler never imagined possible in this great nation.
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Impeach Trump. What further are we all waiting for? Deplorable words and actions from this Godhead Imposter are much worse than even I expected. Yes, we marched with 750,000 others in Los Angeles on last Sat. We marched for decency, not FOR a tyrant. Apparently, he didn't notice. He had his agenda to warm his "heart". Protests will continue, but during the Vietmam era, it took too long to rise and quell that horror. Let us not wait around now.
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Why block access of innocent bystanders to the airport? For future massive protests, please block the nearest Trump building to you...
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Odd that the countries that the 9/11 hijackers were from aren't on the list of banned countries. We know Saudi Arabia was complicit and continues to fund terrorism,but they are off the list? Does Trump have business connections there?
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Trump only listed the same country's that Obama did in 2011, when he scaled back refugees.
Trump has golf courses in both Saudi Arabia and The UAE. Something Trumpies don't want to hear and Fox News won't acknowledge.
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Kudos to Judge Ann M. Donnelly! It's great to see someone who has authority to stand up to Trump and his brethren!
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"But her emails!"
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" There's something I just can't trust about her either. "
If Mr Trump truly cared about the safety of Americans he would look at gun control. But, given gun massacres are mostly committed by white males, I am guessing he won't.
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More people are killed in the US by homegrown terrorists and other mentally ill people with guns than by Muslim extremists. This order does nothing to make the country safer and will probably have the opposite effect by radicalizing people who are on the edge and are looking for an axe to grind.
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This continuing Middle East debacle is the result of ill-advised U.S. military actions taken in retaliation for the 9/11 attacks. Where did the majority of the 9/11 hijackers come from? Saudi Arabia!!! Did we invade Saudi Arabia for their complicity in the 9/11 attacks? NO!! Are visitation restrictions being placed on radical Saudis? NO!!
It is a hypocritical rationale implementing visitation restrictions for the seven Middle Eastern countries, several of which the U.S. invaded [under false pretenses] after 9/11 and currently have U.S. combat troops on the ground [uninvited] in perpetual battles.
It is quite unsettling to see Middle Eastern towns and cities of antiquity being destroyed, creating a severe refugee/immigrant crisis for millions of innocents and fermenting numerous terrorists’ factions. Also in Yemen we’re supplying our 9/11 adversary [Saudis] with military weapons and technology in reducing Yemen ancient cities to piles of rubble.
When is this madness going to stop?? Not anytime soon I suspect, especially with the current disoriented person occupying the White House public housing.
It is a hypocritical rationale implementing visitation restrictions for the seven Middle Eastern countries, several of which the U.S. invaded [under false pretenses] after 9/11 and currently have U.S. combat troops on the ground [uninvited] in perpetual battles.
It is quite unsettling to see Middle Eastern towns and cities of antiquity being destroyed, creating a severe refugee/immigrant crisis for millions of innocents and fermenting numerous terrorists’ factions. Also in Yemen we’re supplying our 9/11 adversary [Saudis] with military weapons and technology in reducing Yemen ancient cities to piles of rubble.
When is this madness going to stop?? Not anytime soon I suspect, especially with the current disoriented person occupying the White House public housing.
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Crude and blunt implementation of a policy. The action is barbaric, and indicative of a graceless and thoughtless action of a naive ideologue.
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My mom was an immigrant from Austria during the depression; I am her physician son. My husband is an immigrant from Thailand; he is a successful businessman. America is great because of immigration and diversity. Let's fight to keep this energy coming into our country, giving it life!
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"Lawyers who sued the government to block the White House order said the judge’s decision........"
"Judge Ann M. Donnelly of Federal District Court in Brooklyn, who was nominated by former President Barack Obama, ruled just before 9 p.m. that implementing Mr. Trump’s order"
When is the Executive Branch of our Government to run this Country again. The Judicial system sure has failed us. Something is wrong when a Federal Judge can override a Presidential Executive order. We are not only weak people in the US but also not very bright either. Before US Citizens talk about Our Constitution, they should re-learn how our Government system is suppose to work. If I remember, that was a 5th grade assignment in my day. I think it is now US Government 101 in your Freshman class in college. Check out a legitimate Google site to see where the US stands in education to the rest of the world . We are not even close anymore. Thank President Trump for giving up all you have to try and straiten this mess out. It's been many decades coming.
"Judge Ann M. Donnelly of Federal District Court in Brooklyn, who was nominated by former President Barack Obama, ruled just before 9 p.m. that implementing Mr. Trump’s order"
When is the Executive Branch of our Government to run this Country again. The Judicial system sure has failed us. Something is wrong when a Federal Judge can override a Presidential Executive order. We are not only weak people in the US but also not very bright either. Before US Citizens talk about Our Constitution, they should re-learn how our Government system is suppose to work. If I remember, that was a 5th grade assignment in my day. I think it is now US Government 101 in your Freshman class in college. Check out a legitimate Google site to see where the US stands in education to the rest of the world . We are not even close anymore. Thank President Trump for giving up all you have to try and straiten this mess out. It's been many decades coming.
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I have been hugely impressed over the past weeks by General Mattis' integrity and sense of moral equilibrium but am now forced to ask, "Has he no sense of shame?"
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America First = White & Christian First
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Obama banned refugees from Iraq for six months in 2011. Why no tantrum then?
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If you don't know the difference between what was done then, and now, you have no business asking the question.
Google it.
Google it.
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It was one country. They were at a particularly difficult time. It was resolved in the best possible way.
If you want to pick on Obama, say so.
If you want to pick on Obama, say so.
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Obama actually found 2 terrorists on the list of refugees. Sounds as if the vetting was working and he was doing his job.
Seriously, NYT, if you're going to talk the talk of big picture truth, you need to walk the walk n actually report it.
You have a lot to atone for your short-sighted election coverage. It's time for you to stand up n lead.
You have a lot to atone for your short-sighted election coverage. It's time for you to stand up n lead.
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Trump is going to destroy our country and those that support his craziness are going to regret putting him in office
I find it odd that he signed the order the day before his conversation with Putin the issues at the airport resulted in very little talk about the meeting with Putin. This is trumps mo distraction from other drama he is creating
Democratics must take over the house in 2018
I find it odd that he signed the order the day before his conversation with Putin the issues at the airport resulted in very little talk about the meeting with Putin. This is trumps mo distraction from other drama he is creating
Democratics must take over the house in 2018
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Trump has now broken the law, the Immigration and Nationality Act. Clearly and with the stroke of a pen, his name is all over it. Impeachment hearings should begin immediately.
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For what seems now to be happening in our country, read 2 novels: Sinclair Lewis, "It Can't Happen Here", and Philip Roth, "The Plot Against America".
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We need to make it as clear as we can that the current President does not have the support of most Americans, and that we will fight for the rights of all free-thinking people - no matter how many walls he tries to build between us.
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Hard to know what is more depressing - the chaos of American 'policy', the miserable consequences for entirely innocent people, the loss of American moral leadership amonst the very people who admire the US and whom we should be winning over, the utter stupidity of banning groups NOT implicated in terrorism in America or the ready appeal of these meausres to bigots and racists.
Its becoming clear that however long or short Turmp's tenure, America cannot ever fully recover.
Its becoming clear that however long or short Turmp's tenure, America cannot ever fully recover.
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Outcry against what?
The United States reserves the sovereign right to selectively choose who should wishes enter its territory.
The President Donald Trump has correctly decided to restrict entry of Citizens from 7 nations.
It's not Islamophobe,it's Practicophile.
It could be increased to 25 Nations.
Can a bunch of professional protesters outside the airport in favour of banned entities change the policy of the United States.
Highly unlikely.
The United States reserves the sovereign right to selectively choose who should wishes enter its territory.
The President Donald Trump has correctly decided to restrict entry of Citizens from 7 nations.
It's not Islamophobe,it's Practicophile.
It could be increased to 25 Nations.
Can a bunch of professional protesters outside the airport in favour of banned entities change the policy of the United States.
Highly unlikely.
If that's your argument, fine, we CAN select who should enter. But he conveniently picks countries where he has no business conflicts. Terrorists also come from Saudi Arabia Turkey Chechnya...this has NOTHING to do with security and everything to do with political theatre, it's a stunt to appease his gullible supporters to show he's doing something, but not anything significant in terms of real security. And if you think these protesters are "professional", you're probably part of the same demographic that indulges conspiracy theories, fake news, and think the extra 3 million voters who voted against Trump are illegal/imaginary. Yes indeed, we were always at war with Oceania.
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Let's be clear: this has nothing to do with terrorism or immigration policy. It is a cheap political stunt intended to cater to Trump's voter base. It pertains only to immigrants and refugees from countries that have no commercial or political clout, and those entrants are already exhaustively vetted. It will not make Americans safer and does nothing to address the real economic and cultural issues of immigration policy. What is nauseating is that that the administration is willing to sully the ideals of the U.S., to endanger American troops overseas, and to make our country appear weak and fearful to the rest of the world merely to shore up its domestic political poll numbers.
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A malignant narcissist resides in the WH. We have a mentally deranged POTUS. He can wreck our government. Congress is important to our country's defense. Are they men or mice? Do the care about the country or just their next vote for office?
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So if I happen to be Iranian or Somali and I have a trip planed to the Grand Canyon or Disneyland or Las Vegas with a valid passport; my trip is canceled? Is the Trump administration going to pick up all the fees?
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So, to be clear, Trump fawns all over Putin, the same guy who is responsible for slaughtering thousands of innocent Syrians and displacing millions more, and then Trump bans all refugees from entering our country?
This is how fascism begins. All good people of conscious who haven't drank the Trump kool-aid need to speak out and stand up for what's right and good. It's only been a week and look we're where at.
This is how fascism begins. All good people of conscious who haven't drank the Trump kool-aid need to speak out and stand up for what's right and good. It's only been a week and look we're where at.
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I am heartbroken that my country has come to this. For shame.
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HIStorically, we've "Come Back" to this. And that's not meant as an endorsement or compliment.
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U.N. may want to move its headquarters outside of the U.S.--avoid visa issues for diplomats AND substantially reduce costs to mitigate reduced U.S. contributions. Art of the Deal encourages standing up to bullies early to make them back down or they will always take advantage of you.
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We are happy that Mr Trudeau has stepped up and made it clear that Canada will continue to welcome all persons who need a new and safe homeland, without reference to religion or national origin. It is important for Canada to now step up and offer students who were and are enrolled in US Universities and have been blocked from returning by the idiotic Trump order. The order comes at the Semester break. Canada will not only join the rest of the world in showing disdain for American ugliness but many gain new citizens after graduation-citizens with higher educations and skills to offer Canadian society.
All International students should take warning-be very careful about enrolling in American schools. With Trump and the spineless GOP in charge, coming to America is hazardous. It is clear that this administration does not care about students and intellectual pursuits-banning students already approved for study.
All International students should take warning-be very careful about enrolling in American schools. With Trump and the spineless GOP in charge, coming to America is hazardous. It is clear that this administration does not care about students and intellectual pursuits-banning students already approved for study.
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I certainly hope that invitation includes American refugees! Many of us are going to need somewhere to go after we're deported (or whatever the proper term is for being evicted from one's own country) for not being "Christian" enough.
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In addition to that Canada has very effective gun control laws. They don't have to worry as much as we do in the US about the shootings.
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We are no longer America. Not today. We have lost America at different times in our history -- when the Supreme Court declared that a black person only counted as 2/3 of a person; deciding that American Indians weren't deserving of rights to their own land and culture (they were "pagans" after all); the Japanese internment; the House Un-American Affairs Committee... and now, when a U.S president officially orders religious discrimination in a nation literally birthed on freedom on religion, and orders a circumventing of the justice system. We can and will get America back, but we will have to actually fight a President for it.
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I missed the religious part. Didn't Obama also place a temporary ban on some of these countries in 2011? Of course that was not met with as much vitriol from the likes of you and liberal activists. Trump is actually taking care of the problems the other presidents have "kicked the can down the road" on. Tough decisions have to be made to "get America back" before it is lost forever.
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”
So, when does the plaque on the Statue of Liberty get swapped out for "Give me your white Christian souls yearning to breathe free of the rest of the world"?
While Trump is drunk on his narcissistic orgy, Pence and Bannon are shaping their white, nationalist, isolated nation based on cowardly fear and misappropriated Christianity. The fact that Trump asked a sane man, Kasich, to be his running mate tells me he is only interested in the power of the Presidency, not leadership. Bannon got his imperfect vessel alright...
So, when does the plaque on the Statue of Liberty get swapped out for "Give me your white Christian souls yearning to breathe free of the rest of the world"?
While Trump is drunk on his narcissistic orgy, Pence and Bannon are shaping their white, nationalist, isolated nation based on cowardly fear and misappropriated Christianity. The fact that Trump asked a sane man, Kasich, to be his running mate tells me he is only interested in the power of the Presidency, not leadership. Bannon got his imperfect vessel alright...
So as along as it is "give me your Muslim masses" it is ok?
Cheeto Jesus just saved the pleebs from the boogeyman, and did all of the radical islamic recruiting work they'll need for the next 10 years.
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
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If things keep going like this, seems it won't be long before it's U.S. Marshals v. U.S. Marines. But for certain, haven't seen so many New Yorkers this worked up since 9/11. Time does that.
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Puerto Vallarta looks better and better all the time...
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Could somebody explain how this isn't a violation of the 1951 UN conventions & 1967 protocol defining the rights of refugees and the obligations of the 148 States that are party to one or both?
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If the President has a problem with the NYT, then he needs to be reading the comments of its readers.
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He seems to take issue with anyone that reads, not just NYTs.
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Senators and Congressman, beware!
Violate our constitutional principles or show moral cowardice-the people will have their say!
Violate our constitutional principles or show moral cowardice-the people will have their say!
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One of Trump's wives said he kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside. True or not, he is using those very techniques to divide and conquer.
He would have denied Jesus a visa because He was a rabble rouser from the Middle East!
He fear mongers to a frightened populace to put forth Bannon's agenda of hate and prejudice.
How can Christians turn a deaf ear to the suffering of any human? Would Jesus turn a deaf ear and is that what any Holy Book teaches?
However, they had their excuses during slavery and here we go again.
He would have denied Jesus a visa because He was a rabble rouser from the Middle East!
He fear mongers to a frightened populace to put forth Bannon's agenda of hate and prejudice.
How can Christians turn a deaf ear to the suffering of any human? Would Jesus turn a deaf ear and is that what any Holy Book teaches?
However, they had their excuses during slavery and here we go again.
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NOT ONE REPUBLICAN objected to this order. Nor one Republican is standing up for the people, right now. They can't seem to stop the power and money grabbing, and do their jobs, making this country better. Thank you to all the people who protested at airports around the country, and thank to the judge who did the right thing. Now, PROTESTERS, make sure you get going on the grassroots effort to get every Americans to vote so we can get rid of these people who want to destroy our country. 2018 isn't that far away. Join up, volunteer, donate money, speak out, show up, stay informed. We lost the fight, but we can win the war to back up democracy, the actual Constitution, and the reason for the United States of America.
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Apparently Mr. Trump's commitment to Christianity does not include attention to the story of the Samaritan. Do not harm strangers who travel to your land. They, too, merit our love and protection. If you're going to claim to be Christian, Mr. Trump, attend to the fundamental requirement of kindness to strangers in your land.
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There is only one way for us to respond to this regime and that is resistance. The Democrats have to stop saying they will "work with" Trump and the pundits have to stop blathering, " If this administration succeeds, America succeeds". If this administration succeeds, it will mean that democracy has failed. It will be the triumph of American fascism.
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The temporary ban makes common sense if in fact we are preparing to confront ISIS on a basis where we are committed to win. Let's make sure our vetting process in as non- porous as possible.... common sense. Much of the
opposition is common hysteria driven by the anti-Trump media and left. I find it interesting that those groups conveniently forget that their idol Barack Obama ordered a 6 months ban on refugees from IRAQ in 2011. Yes the same great statesman and world leader that drew a red line and turned his back after it was crossed leading to a slaughter of innocents.
opposition is common hysteria driven by the anti-Trump media and left. I find it interesting that those groups conveniently forget that their idol Barack Obama ordered a 6 months ban on refugees from IRAQ in 2011. Yes the same great statesman and world leader that drew a red line and turned his back after it was crossed leading to a slaughter of innocents.
We do have a consitution. It bans discrimination. We will uphold our constitution.
Apparently, Trump hasn't had the good fortune to attract the best legal minds to his team.
The best we've ever had indeed. Given that there is a casino called Caesar's Palace (now closed down?) he is aiming to create "Caligula's Palace".
Apparently, Trump hasn't had the good fortune to attract the best legal minds to his team.
The best we've ever had indeed. Given that there is a casino called Caesar's Palace (now closed down?) he is aiming to create "Caligula's Palace".
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the banning of muslim entry from these 7 countries will not stop the spread of terrorism. As seen recently, these people are arriving (if not already home grown) from England, France, Belgium, Turkey, and probably all other European countries as well. You can't hide like an ostrich, it doesn't work for them, it won't work for us.
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No, Trump can’t just ‘decree’ whatever he wants, witness the lightning and thunder that is our constitution and judiciary!
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Even many Republicans are saying this executive action is harmful. Only people on the way far right who look for a pure white America like this result.
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We are to the fifteenth century when the Jewish people were expelled from Spain by "their Majesties [Ferdinand and Isabella] issued the edict that all Jews should be driven out of the kingdom and its territories"
"The most fortunate of the expelled Jews succeeded in escaping to Turkey. Sultan Bajazet welcomed them warmly. 'How can you call Ferdinand of Aragon a wise king,' he was fond of asking, 'the same Ferdinand who impoverished his own land and enriched ours?'"
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-spanish-expulsion-1492
"The most fortunate of the expelled Jews succeeded in escaping to Turkey. Sultan Bajazet welcomed them warmly. 'How can you call Ferdinand of Aragon a wise king,' he was fond of asking, 'the same Ferdinand who impoverished his own land and enriched ours?'"
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-spanish-expulsion-1492
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It's a ship of fools, headed for the iceberg.
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And the beauty of it, when that ship sinks that you will go down with it.
So, are you going to start bailing water from our ship that's been sinking for decades and help to keep it afloat, or are you just going to issue empty platitudes as the water rises above your nose? If you are anti-Trump and continue to 'work' against him, don't complain when the ship flounders and sinks.
So, are you going to start bailing water from our ship that's been sinking for decades and help to keep it afloat, or are you just going to issue empty platitudes as the water rises above your nose? If you are anti-Trump and continue to 'work' against him, don't complain when the ship flounders and sinks.
Sorry. This is no longer a Godwin's law thing. We are actually reliving the attitudes and governmental actions that allowed the third reich to thrive. Trump is doing everything necessary for the rest of the government to invoke section 4 of the 25th amendment.
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Nice try JP but not going to happen. There are so many conditional 'if's' in section for it's tantamount to the saying, "If a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his rump as he hopped across the ground." IF it were as easy as you say Obama, Clinton, Bush, Carter and Nixon would have easily been removed from office. Apparently it's not quite as easy as you believe it to be. Sorry.
Incidentally it's obvious that you do not understand the history of pre-war Germany and the rise of the Third Reich so perhaps you should study that era of human history before you make your comments so ignorantly.
Incidentally it's obvious that you do not understand the history of pre-war Germany and the rise of the Third Reich so perhaps you should study that era of human history before you make your comments so ignorantly.
What a difference a week makes! Former President Obama was far too optimistic in his assessment of our prospects under the leadership of Donald Trump. It is embarrassing to be an American now. Our great country has been hijacked by hate and fear. The Republican Congress has largely gone silent. Trump and his handplucked army of xenophobes want to isolate us from actual facts, but we cannot be separated from our own humanity. If we close our doors, we will also close our minds. This is NOT us. Our democracy is bigger than this. It must be. RESIST.
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Yeah resist. Destroy other people's property because you don't like something. Protect illegal aliens in difference to our Nation's Constitutional laws. Just 'resist' and watch your nation sink into oblivion. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense doesn't it?
Reply to Freeland_Dave, USA
What non-sense! these are legal immigrants we are talking about. Who said anything about illegals? Please, with due respect, stay with the facts being discussed.
What non-sense! these are legal immigrants we are talking about. Who said anything about illegals? Please, with due respect, stay with the facts being discussed.
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Since Prime Minister Trudeau has welcomed refugees to Canada with open arms, he will hopefully accept Americans soon with refugee status, fleeing the Trump Banana Republic.
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I can hardly wait for that to happen. But living so close to Canada and not really seeing the same sentiment from the Canadian Citizens, I don't really see that happening. Canadians really don't like US Citizens but they do enjoy coming into our nation to work, buy their gasoline, buy their cigarettes and food and taking advantage of what we offer in the field of Medicine they can't get in their own country. But with it comes to reciprocation, other than the tourist dollars they get from US Citizen visitors to their nation, they don't want them in their nation. Now not all Canadian citizens feel this way, but most of them do eh.
Reply to Freeland_Dave, USA:
well, we still have time....shall we build a wall there too....stop those US-hating, Canadians! They certainly can pay for the wall from the Oil money!
well, we still have time....shall we build a wall there too....stop those US-hating, Canadians! They certainly can pay for the wall from the Oil money!
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Our Speaker of the House worships the LUNATIC Ayn Rand, who praises cruelty toward others as a virtue. The Republicans are perverts and we need a zero tolerance policy toward them.
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If Republicans are perverts then can you explain why most of the gay, lesbian and bisexual community, along with pedophiles and sexual predators predominately align with the Democrat party? If you can explain that I just might agree with you that Republicans are perverts. But I don't think you can do that so I will just pass off your comment as being made by a totally self centered and ignorant person. But I will give you a chance to explain it rationally if you can.
what's so wrong with the ban, blame the other countries, they harbour terriorists and their governments do nothing about it, this is just a way to make other countries act, maybe the honest people will tell terrorists enoughs enough, you're screwing with MY family now.
Canada's prime minister Justin Trudeau has said that it will accept refugees rejected from the USA. Canada is a vast country with the second largest land mass which does not have enough people to support its aging population and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is powerful and efficient and can limit any terrorist activity and mass killings. It will be a win win situation for Canada to absorb refugees and become the refugee capital of the world while America is going through a churning of immigration and refugee policies. Countries like France and Germany took in refugees thinking that at some point they will palm them off to North America. But with the USA not falling into that trap, Canada's welcoming stance should give hope to refugees and new immigrants to the continent. Immigration Canada is also well known for its extreme vetting for several decades. I personally experienced their stringent vetting process when I was trying to get a student visa to start my doctoral studies in Canada. I had to submit to a medical examination that made absolutely sure that I was pathogen free and a police check that I had no criminal violation. Let Canada be the leader in being the welcoming land of opportunity for refugees and immigrants while America First is closing its doors.
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I noticed that you are in Kentucky. So I suppose that after you finished your doctoral studies you couldn't remain and had to move back to the US. Had similar experiences when I worked for a multi-national computer company and was sent from a city in the US to Canada to train their workers how to operate and maintain the company's new computer line of equipment. Their government was afraid that I was being paid and taking away a job from a Canadian worker until they got it through their small brain that I was being paid by the American branch of our company to train the Canadian branch of workers how to do their jobs effectively and efficiently. Then, and only then, was I allowed to train them.
8-year Trump-Putin intelligence-sharing reported:
http://www.concordmonitor.com/The-Trump-Russia-connection-part-two-7646312
http://www.concordmonitor.com/The-Trump-Russia-connection-part-two-7646312
We have seen enough! The impeachment of trump should begin immediately!
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That's really funny from someone who lives in New Jersey and all of it's local government corruption er politics.
Reply to Freeland_Dove, USA:
Excellent comment, finally! Yes Chris Christie should be impeached too for all the corruption (drug company monies) he is part of in NJ.
Excellent comment, finally! Yes Chris Christie should be impeached too for all the corruption (drug company monies) he is part of in NJ.
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Relax all you crazy and/or hysterical people here. This will work itself out this week. The administration will appeal the liberal, New York judge's decision and probably win. Homeland Security will adjust to admit people already granted visas, as it should, and that will be that. Trump is just doing what we who support him voted him in to do, and the transition for this and many other things in U.S. life, such as ending ObamaCare and illegal immigration, for some people will be tough. That's the way it is, folks. Life is tough, and many of the people adversely affected created their own problems, such as illegals. Go Trump! GREAT first week. We want our country back.
"We want our country back". Many of us in the majority that did not vote for Trump are curious, where did our country go?
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When you get ready to pave a road it's wise to remove all the bumps before you start paving. That's what is happening with Trump right now. Was it going to be easy? No. Was it going to please everyone? No. But you gotta start somewhere and no matter where you start there will always be those so entrenched in the status quo for the past five decades, it's going to have a few bumps along the way.
Yeeeeehawww Freeofbrains_Dave- lets Tractor pull and Rodeo all over the Constitution with our big old petrol guzzling machines! Then lay pipeline and temporarily employ a few thousand to run Canadian gas through our beautiful country!!
I tend to avoid discussing politics publicly for obvious reason but current developments are ridiculous.
1. Blocking people based on religious test is flatly wrong and unconstitutional. What if Vietnam blocks all Christian people from entering? It will surely be seem as suppression of Religion freedom and the USA will surely not keep it voice down.
2. Building the wall is wrong. It provides little help and the cost will not stop at only building cost. It costs the good will of people between countries. It divides us and them. It creates animosity between two nations.
People always have different opinions and a healthy politics system keeps the dialogue moving forward. But to ignore true facts and only listen to "alternative truth", it will not be sustainable.
1. Blocking people based on religious test is flatly wrong and unconstitutional. What if Vietnam blocks all Christian people from entering? It will surely be seem as suppression of Religion freedom and the USA will surely not keep it voice down.
2. Building the wall is wrong. It provides little help and the cost will not stop at only building cost. It costs the good will of people between countries. It divides us and them. It creates animosity between two nations.
People always have different opinions and a healthy politics system keeps the dialogue moving forward. But to ignore true facts and only listen to "alternative truth", it will not be sustainable.
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So, judging from your comment you were satisfied when previous administrations ignored the laws within our constitution and had an open border akin to a screen door on a submarine where no one was vetted to see if they could legally enter our nation as per our Constitution? I wonder where was your vitriol when those constitutional laws were ignored?
WWJD? Perhaps Luke 10:36 might be a hint “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
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Nice try Ken but out of context. We are talking about one on one individual compassion, not the corporate compassion of an entire nation.
And before you point an accusatory finger of shame at someone, what precisely have you done to personally involve yourself in a compassionate act to your neighbor, enemy, or otherwise, human being? Isn't it nice to sit back in our self righteousness and wag a finger of admonition at others we perceive as doing wrong? I do believe that God has a word for that. Let me see now, oh, that's right. The word is hypocrite. Now isn't that what Luke 10:35 is teaching you? That's why God plainly tells us that we shouldn't judge others. Why? Because we are all mortal sinful men. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Could it be the beam in your own eyes that Paul was referring to?
And before you point an accusatory finger of shame at someone, what precisely have you done to personally involve yourself in a compassionate act to your neighbor, enemy, or otherwise, human being? Isn't it nice to sit back in our self righteousness and wag a finger of admonition at others we perceive as doing wrong? I do believe that God has a word for that. Let me see now, oh, that's right. The word is hypocrite. Now isn't that what Luke 10:35 is teaching you? That's why God plainly tells us that we shouldn't judge others. Why? Because we are all mortal sinful men. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Could it be the beam in your own eyes that Paul was referring to?
I feel a bit bad for Donald Trump, even if he lacks the self-knowledge to realize that he’s vastly exceeded his capabilities in taking this job. The hammering that history is going to give him will not be pretty, barring a miracle. He’ll be remembered with Harding, Buchanan, Nixon and others of that cadre.
Donald Trump’s life has been about seeking affirmation. He’s spent his entire life saying “Look at how special I am! Look! You’re not looking hard enough!” Now, everyone’s looking, and he’s not got the stuff to measure up.
When you look at successful Presidents, they all have a few personality traits in common – solid self-belief, an ability to rise above the partisan fray, a gift for uniting disparate people behind them, intellectual curiosity and a wide-ranging interest in the minutiae of government. Ronald Reagan may be an exception to the last one – and insomuch as he lacked it, it was the cause of the not-so-successful parts of his Presidency.
Trump has none of those traits. He is fragile, divisive, incurious and unconcerned with the way government or law works, thinking he can bulldoze his way to what he wants.
It’s classic tragedy – his fatal flaw becoming revealed and overwhelming him when he reaches the pinnacle of his ambition. Coriolanus, McB, Oedipus, Trump. Let’s just hope we don’t get crushed in the collapse.
Donald Trump’s life has been about seeking affirmation. He’s spent his entire life saying “Look at how special I am! Look! You’re not looking hard enough!” Now, everyone’s looking, and he’s not got the stuff to measure up.
When you look at successful Presidents, they all have a few personality traits in common – solid self-belief, an ability to rise above the partisan fray, a gift for uniting disparate people behind them, intellectual curiosity and a wide-ranging interest in the minutiae of government. Ronald Reagan may be an exception to the last one – and insomuch as he lacked it, it was the cause of the not-so-successful parts of his Presidency.
Trump has none of those traits. He is fragile, divisive, incurious and unconcerned with the way government or law works, thinking he can bulldoze his way to what he wants.
It’s classic tragedy – his fatal flaw becoming revealed and overwhelming him when he reaches the pinnacle of his ambition. Coriolanus, McB, Oedipus, Trump. Let’s just hope we don’t get crushed in the collapse.
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To all his supporters who say "we take him seriously but not literally", do you want to eat your words now, or wait until he goes full fascist?
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I don't expect him to go 'full fascist' as he has never said or intoned anything relational to fascism. Now what I see coming out of those who don't like Trump are fascist qualities. I do believe that you don't really understand what fascism is and how it operates. It's clear from your comment that you don't an just think that it's a cool word to use like many of the other mindless uneducated masses do.
You have to stop watching Fox News.
The weakening of national security due to this executive order -- who will risk becoming an interpreter for our armed forces or cooperating with our intelligence operatives in the affected areas? -- requires congressional action.
That this life-and-death risk was not averted is a public display of boundless incompetence by Michael Flynn, the National Security Advisor. Congress should inform the president there will no further cabinet confirmations until Flynn is removed promptly, with a stipulation that he may not again serve in any capacity in the federal government.
There is a clear and present need for congress to assert increased control over national security, now.
That this life-and-death risk was not averted is a public display of boundless incompetence by Michael Flynn, the National Security Advisor. Congress should inform the president there will no further cabinet confirmations until Flynn is removed promptly, with a stipulation that he may not again serve in any capacity in the federal government.
There is a clear and present need for congress to assert increased control over national security, now.
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Question, Were you singing this song when Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Carter, Johnson and Nixon were president? Congress has not asserted any control to national security other than what those presidents wanted Congress to do. Our national security has been waning under those congresses so it's nice to see that Trump is forcing the to finally deal with the matter. Congress needs to understand that our nation's security comes before the game of politics they have been playing for the past half century. When our nation is safe and secure from foreign intervention then they can play their political games. But ot until we are safe.
Secure from national intervention? Like Russia? Saudi Arabia? Whatever you say...
Answer, Yes! Obama, Bush 43, and Clinton compiled records -- not all equal -- of extended and substantial failures as commander-in-chief and I've been on the record about those.
Back to the present, Flynn needs to be removed. See the documented comments in the first paragraph of the Retirement section of the Wikipedia article about him. Most of Trump's top national security positions, but not Flynn, have been filled with top quality people who can separate fact from fiction. There's no security in a fiction-based decisions.
Back to the present, Flynn needs to be removed. See the documented comments in the first paragraph of the Retirement section of the Wikipedia article about him. Most of Trump's top national security positions, but not Flynn, have been filled with top quality people who can separate fact from fiction. There's no security in a fiction-based decisions.
The people united will NEVER be defeated.
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I hope you are correct but feel you are incorrect as I watch them destroying themselves in their misplaced and ignorant passions about what is good and bad in our nation today. If we fall as a nation it won't be the president that does it. It will be the ignorant masses of our own people that accomplish that.
Back to medieval times
The crusades ..... on reverse
What a shame ..
The crusades ..... on reverse
What a shame ..
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74 million voters picked someone else. Are you starting to understand why?
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I agree that we must regain control of our borders, limit immigration, etc, etc,; but I am not in total agreement with the total ban without allowances for those already cleared and holding valid US Visas and US Citizens.
Hillary and Rahm Emanuel have both seized on this issue to prattle on about how it does not represent our "values" or "who we are" as a people. Leave it to the Democrats to hypocritically claim the high road while their feet are stuck in the mud of partisan politics. One might ask what they have done about the situation other than to worsen it by proclaiming their commitment to open borders and sanctuary cities. Incidentally, they are also unwittingly making the funeral arrangements for their party during the next go-around.
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I wish I could like this comment a million times.
united states of america. Somehow to me it reads better this way. Without capitals it symbolizes much better what we are becoming. A country of small minded and fearful people led by a thin skinned narcissist who is also a bigot and a racist. You people who support this guy are like little kids who are afraid of the boogieman hiding under your bed. I've got news for you. The boogieman isn't under your bed but in the White House and you should be scared of him.
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Now Trump and his team can really say that he's got the largest crowd: I agree--the largest crowd of protesters ever within seven days after becoming a president in the entire US history!!! Trump continues to live in his alternative reality. The next four years are going to be VERY LONG!!!
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This came about because of years of Americans and their leaders crowing about American superiority and exceptionalism. Only those who acted the most superior and most exceptional got to the top.
Hillary and the Democrats are just as much to blame for this mess as Trump and the Republicans.
This is truly an American problem of Americans' own making. If you say you are superior enough times, everyone will appear inferior to you according to your own views and interpretation, and you will arrive exactly at this point.
Hillary and the Democrats are just as much to blame for this mess as Trump and the Republicans.
This is truly an American problem of Americans' own making. If you say you are superior enough times, everyone will appear inferior to you according to your own views and interpretation, and you will arrive exactly at this point.
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Spoken from a far remove...
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I really hate to agree with you but the truth is the truth even if it comes from the mouth of an enemy. And let me pause to say I hope you are not my enemy or an enemy of my country. But you are correct, it is a problem caused by the American people and the American people need to fix it. As a Christian I shall end with, Peace be with you.
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I am most definitely not an enemy. I am a friend. I am heartened by the overwhelming response of Americans here on this site to overcome. All people are created equal and deserve fair and benevolent treatment. I thank you for the wish of peace and I wish you peace as well my friend.
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Where was all the outrage and protest when then-President Barack Obama issued a six-month ban on all Iraqi refugees in 2011?
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gman3b,
There was none, because contrary to many comments here, the United States is not a country of values or culture or anything like that, anymore. It is a country of colors. Specifically, two colors. Red and Blue. To the Blue, everything done by the Red is evil incarnate, and vice versa. No one cares about the country anymore, only that their color is winning.
Imagine for a second that Obama was a Republican. Can you imagine the hue and cry from the Blue people? About his maintenance of Gitmo? About his willingness to send our troops into various countries with nothing resembling an exit strategy? About his insurance-corporation-authored healthcare plan? About his apparent complete lack of concern for his fictional adopted hometown of Chicago or any US ghetto for that matter? About his penchant for spending as much time as humanly possible on golf courses? About dozens of other things?
They would have slaughtered him constantly. But, he was on their team, so he could do no wrong.
All that matters to most in this country is your party affiliation. Your actions are irrelevant, and will be trumpeted or explained away as necessary. This is why we need to kill our two-party political system. We need more than two teams, or we will not survive.
There was none, because contrary to many comments here, the United States is not a country of values or culture or anything like that, anymore. It is a country of colors. Specifically, two colors. Red and Blue. To the Blue, everything done by the Red is evil incarnate, and vice versa. No one cares about the country anymore, only that their color is winning.
Imagine for a second that Obama was a Republican. Can you imagine the hue and cry from the Blue people? About his maintenance of Gitmo? About his willingness to send our troops into various countries with nothing resembling an exit strategy? About his insurance-corporation-authored healthcare plan? About his apparent complete lack of concern for his fictional adopted hometown of Chicago or any US ghetto for that matter? About his penchant for spending as much time as humanly possible on golf courses? About dozens of other things?
They would have slaughtered him constantly. But, he was on their team, so he could do no wrong.
All that matters to most in this country is your party affiliation. Your actions are irrelevant, and will be trumpeted or explained away as necessary. This is why we need to kill our two-party political system. We need more than two teams, or we will not survive.
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The President continues to show that he is not thoughtful. He is volatile and reactionary. He is malleable like Gumby or a no-memory product. Which of his advisors is writing the orders that he signs? His eager supporters are encouraging him to make good on his campaign promises, even if those promises were bogus to begin with. He is a 100 day sprinter in a race that is a four year marathon. There has to be a certain unsettling occurring in the likes of Vice-President Pence and others of more moderate disposition who have been recently appointed to the President's Cabinet.
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Bannon writes the orders. He has an understanding of grammar and sentence structure.
Oh, and he's also the "brains".behind the empty space of DT.
Oh, and he's also the "brains".behind the empty space of DT.
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I keep hearing the Trumps reason for such drastic action as a need for extreme vetting. Where was the opportunity to apply the same to him before the election. Still hiding those tax returns and still the owner of his world conglomeration of which none of the countries he is invested in made the list. Go figure.
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“Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away”
For what it is worth, this President and his administration are toxic.
Michael Bain
Glorieta, New Mexico
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away”
For what it is worth, this President and his administration are toxic.
Michael Bain
Glorieta, New Mexico
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Now that Trudeau has announced that Canada will admit the refugees we ban. we have to force Canada to pay for a northern wall.
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"Mr. President, should we add Saudi Arabia to the list, put them at the top?"
"No, only 15 of the 19 attackers were Enemies of the State and they all died but more importantly, I have a ton of business interests there."
"No, only 15 of the 19 attackers were Enemies of the State and they all died but more importantly, I have a ton of business interests there."
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Trump is too much of a simpleton to have considered the ramifications of his broad and poorly defined 'proclamation'. What about airline pilots? People who travel as part of their jobs? All of these hasty actions will prove to be trump's downfall.
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Einstein was an immigrant fleeing Nazism. We knew all about him when he was admitted to be a Princeton professor. People granted visas and vetted especially those who served our troops like translators should not have theirs rescinded. However, it would be better to go after those hidden in the shadows the young men and women who have overstayed their visas like the 9/11 killers and homegrown terrorists who traveled to the middle east either without or with visas and overstayed abroad for nefarious purposes and returned brain washed.
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Has anyone considered the vulnerability at airports caused by the "protestors"? For us travelers the hoops we jump through for security is not required of them. Let's look at the disconnect between traveling and protesting. Suggest we keep the mob outside.
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The real story? Do a deal, pay big money, to the Trump Family or else this is a small example of what Trump will do! The irony is that the tyrants of these countries are not hurt by this, they benefit. We are the ones who are hurt.
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So, once again, the ACLU and a judge appointed by a Democratic President protect us. But for how long?
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Thanks Trump. You are going to create home-grown terrorists seeking death and destruction.
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Trump's impetuous and ill considered actions will have serious and unpredictable economic, social, legal and civic consequences. I am terrified on multiple levels. This is the time to pull back on investments as the market is already overextended. Chaos and confusion is all we can expect as long as Trump is in office. This government is not a government, it is a Kafkaesque, nightmare scenario.
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Good! "Injustice anywhere, is injustice everywhere." ~ Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Here's the thing - even the Cato Insititute- funded by the Koch brothers -recognizes that this will do nothing for national security (see: "Little National Security Benefit to Trump’s Executive Order on Immigration"). All this act will do -will make us appear heartless, misguided, and unwelcome throughout most of the world. My hope is that after the 120 day ban - Trump (with the guidance of others) will back down.
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Trump just handed ISIL and radical Islamists their first victory under his watch.
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"First they took the Jews..." We are ALL affected.
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It can be said without hyperbolic hysteria that these are circumstances widely perpetuated by Nazis. Discrimination by religion and country of origin is the goal and the result of Trump's executive orders on refugees and immigrants. Authoritarian regimes count on the creation of us versus them using misinformation and outright lies. Trump is a liar with purpose. Fact: the vetting system for refugees takes 2 to 2.5 years to get through. We DO know who these people are. They are people yearning to be free and to contribute to America, some on a very high level. All are the kind of people who have made America great. Trump is making America into something else: a paranoid country, unwelcoming to the most vulnerable, unable to stand proudly among the free countries of the world as the model of freedom, humanitarian goals, and world progress through democratic means.
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Do we know who they are though? What if the Boston bombers had been stopped. What if it was your or your family member's leg bone sticking out? These people have a country and we have ours. I don't see where it says that we have to let in people from countries that want to kill us. You all love to bring up Nazis all the time. Do you think it would've been ok to bring in immigrants that were Nazis in 1942? No that would've been stupid. Just as it is to bring in people from countries that celebrated 9/11.
Mr. Trump is doing what he said he would do.
Enforce our immigration laws. And, enforce our laws under our constitution.
Great to see an independent president do what is right.
Cheers,
B
Enforce our immigration laws. And, enforce our laws under our constitution.
Great to see an independent president do what is right.
Cheers,
B
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I hate to say it but this action by Trump is Hiterlisk. Not only that the fact that his "cabinet" including the Sec. of Defense stand by is nothing more than the generals of Hitler standing quite while he killed thousands of Jews and others.
We are witnessing a different kind of death-death by closing our doors to those who have the right to be here Trump has created another St.Louis. We cannot now stand by and let this happen. We must continue to forcefully protest and do whatever ever is right and legal to remove him from office. He is a danger not only to this country but to the world at large.
We are witnessing a different kind of death-death by closing our doors to those who have the right to be here Trump has created another St.Louis. We cannot now stand by and let this happen. We must continue to forcefully protest and do whatever ever is right and legal to remove him from office. He is a danger not only to this country but to the world at large.
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Trump came into the White House with his check list: Build wall, add a tariff to foreign goods, eliminate healthcare for millions of poor people, cut abortion funding overseas, lash out against Mexicans and Muslims. He is just checking the boxes as fast as he can. The demonstrations have to get larger and louder so that weakling Paul Ryan becomes scared. Trump will only be stopped when his own kind turn against him.
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When will the Christian Arabs be admitted into our country from these Arab countries? They are the forgotten ones and are also being targeted by the terrorists. They must be allowed entry into the US. They are being decimated every day. Let them come.
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Dear Rest of the World,
Please keep in mind that Trump was elected by a minority of voters. He is an embarrassment to our country. He does not represent the majority of Americans. American will regain its' senses and Trump will not last forever.
- EPB
Please keep in mind that Trump was elected by a minority of voters. He is an embarrassment to our country. He does not represent the majority of Americans. American will regain its' senses and Trump will not last forever.
- EPB
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Dear rest of the world, ignore the idiot above me, the majority of Americans strongly support Trump and don't want to be murdered by Muslims.
No, Ed. No we don't. Please keep reading the NY Times. Thank you and have a nice day.
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This maneuver was hardly a credible mater of national security.
This is all about Trump grandstanding with this sign the order and put it immediately into effect.
Those innocents impacted are no more valued or respected than a handful of low dollar chips from one of his former casinos.
Governing by fiat is obscenely undemocratic. Time for the GOP Congress to be more than lap dogs for DJT.
This is all about Trump grandstanding with this sign the order and put it immediately into effect.
Those innocents impacted are no more valued or respected than a handful of low dollar chips from one of his former casinos.
Governing by fiat is obscenely undemocratic. Time for the GOP Congress to be more than lap dogs for DJT.
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I am an American citizen currently living in Canada, where I work at a local university. We have just finished a series of events commemorating Holocaust Remembrance Week. Inevitably, we were reminded of the now-infamous comment made in the late 1930's by a high-ranking staffer of then-Prime Minister Mackenzie King, who had been asked how many Jewish refugees Canada would accept from the looming disaster in Nazi Germany. The reply: "None is too many." This is exactly what President Trump has decided about those fleeing the charnel house of Syria. It was disgraceful in Mackenzie King's day and is even more so now, when there is no excuse for ignorance about what can happen when refugees who have already been thoroughly vetted are denied a safe haven. For Trump's executive order to come down on the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz is particularly revolting. To those who have promulgated this order: have you no shame?
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Mr Trump will soon be the most popular person hated all over the world.
This is precisely what will hurt him the most.
How will he tweet and confront all these people locally as well as globally?
This is precisely what will hurt him the most.
How will he tweet and confront all these people locally as well as globally?
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Trudope says, he'll take 'em, send the bloody lot to his residence in Canada!
Who will be the first in Congress to say Impeach!
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This is a trial balloon, a stalking horse. The purges and general roundups are next. Bannon, operating under Trump, is trying to set a precedent that a president can order the indefinite detention of absolutely anyone.
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The Muslim "Hameed Khalid Darweesh" who risked his life to help Americans in Iraq is a better human being and more worthy of being called an American than trump and bannon ever will be. Ever.
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Can we stop with all the insane rhetoric and Hitler analogies, please? How about having some faith in the United States and its laws and governmental systems? The President did something many found unfair and illegal. A judge blocked the illegal part and voters will soon have a say on the unfair part. That's how it works in America. In the meantime, calm down.
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I just wish the US used as much caution about sending troops all over the world, interfering with democracies, arresting our own war criminals, and starting wars as Trump is willing to do when it comes to his interpretation of security
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Mutiny is a legal & necessary action when the ship (of state) is captained by a deranged person & aided by scurrilous lieutenants (Ryan & McConnell). Trump must go. Either he resigns or is dragged from the WH, THIS WEEK.
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Our shining city on a hill is being destroyed by a wrecking ball.
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No..your red communist commune is being torn down and freedom is going back to the people.
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We have been letting immigrants from these countries into our country for years with no problems. There has been no incident, and yet suddenly we have to ban all people (except Christians - but this isn't a Muslim ban...) from certain countries because of what happened on 9/11 - 15 years ago? And yet, the ban doesn't include the countries from whence came the 9/11 attackers.
Previous immigration bans did not target all people from certain countries, which is explicitly prohibited by law. They banned people who had been involved in certain activities in certain countries. In other words, it was behavior that could get people banned, not just the fact of their national origin. This wholesale ban is totally unwarranted, illegal, and just plain unconscionable.
Previous immigration bans did not target all people from certain countries, which is explicitly prohibited by law. They banned people who had been involved in certain activities in certain countries. In other words, it was behavior that could get people banned, not just the fact of their national origin. This wholesale ban is totally unwarranted, illegal, and just plain unconscionable.
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No incidents? Boston duh
LT,
I know facts often confuse people here, but you might want to visit Columbus, OH. Specifically, the Ohio State campus, where a Somali refugee put 13 people in the hospital. Luckily, none of them died. I realize this happened a LONG TIME AGO, back in September, so few recall it, but you should reconsider your claim about "no problems" and "no incident".
Also, banning immigrant by country is decidedly NOT prohibited by law, in fact, Obama did exactly the same thing in 2011 for Iraqi immigrants in response to a bomb incident in Kentucky.
I know facts often confuse people here, but you might want to visit Columbus, OH. Specifically, the Ohio State campus, where a Somali refugee put 13 people in the hospital. Luckily, none of them died. I realize this happened a LONG TIME AGO, back in September, so few recall it, but you should reconsider your claim about "no problems" and "no incident".
Also, banning immigrant by country is decidedly NOT prohibited by law, in fact, Obama did exactly the same thing in 2011 for Iraqi immigrants in response to a bomb incident in Kentucky.
Thank you, Mr. President. Finally, a leader who is willing to put the safety of the American people first. The liberals can scream and howl all they want. They lost and it's time to take our country back! AMERICA FIRST!
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We all won't have a country much longer if this keeps up. Please keep reading the NY Times, Mr. Dalton and have a nice day.
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It is no longer America. We are all Trumpistanis now!
Finally a President that cares about America. The Liberal left is totally and single-handed lay responsible for the Hollywood perversion of this country. Bravo to Trump for standing in their collective face.
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All well and good until extremist Republican judges are in charge on a majority of our courts. Appointed by extremist politicians or elected with extremist conservative billionaire contributions.
Then your recourse for justice is nill.
That's when you'll know you're living in Iran or N. Korea.
Maybe your kids will be able to figure out how life used to be in a far away place that used to be known as America.
They may choke up when they figure out how purists on the left who, faced with an obvious fascist who needed to be stopped at all costs, decided to "vote their conscience" for some long forgotten, obscure person named Jill Stein instead of a flawed but perfectly reasonable, mainstream, conventional woman named Clinton.
They'll wonder why Trump was not seen as the threat he clearly presented.
Maybe they'll even look at the parallels between what was thought to be the "benign" election of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's and the rise of our own strongman.
They can study in the shadows away from prying official eyes.
Consequences.
Then your recourse for justice is nill.
That's when you'll know you're living in Iran or N. Korea.
Maybe your kids will be able to figure out how life used to be in a far away place that used to be known as America.
They may choke up when they figure out how purists on the left who, faced with an obvious fascist who needed to be stopped at all costs, decided to "vote their conscience" for some long forgotten, obscure person named Jill Stein instead of a flawed but perfectly reasonable, mainstream, conventional woman named Clinton.
They'll wonder why Trump was not seen as the threat he clearly presented.
Maybe they'll even look at the parallels between what was thought to be the "benign" election of Adolf Hitler in the 1930's and the rise of our own strongman.
They can study in the shadows away from prying official eyes.
Consequences.
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