Something simple and doable worldwide would be to have flash mobs suddenly protest with signs, even for 5 minutes everyday. But how do we start that?
Successful in what way?
Did it change policy? Will it? Anyone talking about it besides the people who marched in it?
Articles like this are the only thing keeping it alive and when that stops so does the tiny amount of momentum this "movement" has.
I'm sorry, I just don't see American women as bing victims.....quite the opposite.
Some women have reason to march, those in Muslim countries, the Sudan etc. Those treated like animal animals and possessions, not those who feel terrible that they're making 5k less than their male counterpart or sad because their latte came out wrong.
Everyone's a victim in the eyes of the NYT.
Did it change policy? Will it? Anyone talking about it besides the people who marched in it?
Articles like this are the only thing keeping it alive and when that stops so does the tiny amount of momentum this "movement" has.
I'm sorry, I just don't see American women as bing victims.....quite the opposite.
Some women have reason to march, those in Muslim countries, the Sudan etc. Those treated like animal animals and possessions, not those who feel terrible that they're making 5k less than their male counterpart or sad because their latte came out wrong.
Everyone's a victim in the eyes of the NYT.
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What's next is Valentine's Day....
The movement is about love. And the words frequently attributed to MLK Jr seem appropriate.... "Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." Now, we have our national holiday devoted to love coming up on February 14th. How can the momentum of the march be channeled into a demonstration of the transformational aspects of love? Not sure how exactly, but we do have a golden opportunity to continue demonstrating how love trumps hate!
The movement is about love. And the words frequently attributed to MLK Jr seem appropriate.... "Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that." Now, we have our national holiday devoted to love coming up on February 14th. How can the momentum of the march be channeled into a demonstration of the transformational aspects of love? Not sure how exactly, but we do have a golden opportunity to continue demonstrating how love trumps hate!
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I m a middle aged suburban woman who's never marched in protest. I was joined by 20 similar local women, who were joined by hundreds of thousands of women, many with similar inexperience to mine. Not to mention the partners and spouses who stayed home with kids, so we could be part of history, but would have shown up too. It was envigorating and cathartic and felt like a beginning. We've created a local group, are sharing concrete steps towards activism and feeling hopeful. It's a great start...
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No matter whether the resistance is rooted in issues or just anti-Trump sentiment, let's not lose this momentum! "Enlist" in the Women's Guard: www.womensguard.org. It is still in the earliest stages of organizing, but it helps members commit to one day a month of service, and matches them with protests and other organized activism events!
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Oh no. This can't just be about Trump. That was some of the problem with the campaign, which focused too much on the man and not on the issues. Although we marchers may not agree on every single issue, there is enough agreement for us to remain together and get things done.
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Can't wait to see Donald cheekily driving around in a spiffy M1 Abrams tank at Ft Bragg to parody Mike Dukakis's fateful ride. Donald under the red helmet, Making Tankers Great Again. Then landing on an aircraft carrier in the Straits of Hormuz. "Electoral Mission Accomplished." Who can stop him?
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My mother marched as a Suffraget. I marched in the calm, beautiful anti-war march om Washington that finally ended another fake presint. My children marched with me and still do after 50 and 62 years. I feel that we must teach the children what calm, though loud, marches are the only ones that matter or mean anything. And now, with an illigetiment 'president' we must keep marching. My marching days are over, as I am 92 and have no balance. You children must learn to simply turn your back on these people and sing loudly, "We Shall Overcome." Breaking windows and burning cars simply gives 'them' more power. Your quiet march and song give you the power.
The way to the future, to break the power that big money gives them, is to meet together and form cooperatives. Think of a business where everyone in the co-op has not only a voice, but also an equal share in the profits of that business. Look at the money people are gathering for new product work. If you can get 1000 of your neighbors together, think of the money you could raise to produce something your area needs. If each person put in only $50. you would start with $50,000. Everyone has some skill, and 1000 skills are a good start. I formed a craft co-operative in Oak Park, IL in the l970s and it is still running, and run BY the people who work equal hours in the co-op. If you want more info, email me at [email protected]. We must gather!
The way to the future, to break the power that big money gives them, is to meet together and form cooperatives. Think of a business where everyone in the co-op has not only a voice, but also an equal share in the profits of that business. Look at the money people are gathering for new product work. If you can get 1000 of your neighbors together, think of the money you could raise to produce something your area needs. If each person put in only $50. you would start with $50,000. Everyone has some skill, and 1000 skills are a good start. I formed a craft co-operative in Oak Park, IL in the l970s and it is still running, and run BY the people who work equal hours in the co-op. If you want more info, email me at [email protected]. We must gather!
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Why no pictures from Miami? Thousands were at the rally.
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The Woman's March showed how progressives are regressing and rapidly devolving The Woman's March also demonstrated how self-entitled and gregarious the left is becoming. This march did, however, show just how Hillary Clinton's supportes are still in shock with an adamant refusal to accept loss and get over it!
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As we criticise our new President for his lack of interest in history, we, too, need to acquaint or re-acquaint ourselves with the numerous and complex factors that resulted in changes in the power structure. On the one hand, the lack of a specific agenda or single issue may have been responsible, in part, for the historic turnout, across all seven continents, this Saturday. But on the other hand, I believe, it will take leaders to create the consensus and compromises necessary to pass legislation and elect alternative candidates. In addition to national leaders, local ones are emerging and will be an essential part of the larger national and international structure of resistance. But this network of leaders is the yang to the yin of broad participation; and both are essential.
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For me, the message for this whole thing begins with something that brings us together, even though our individual issues differ. Anand Giridharadas wrote today, "The overwhelming feeling at the women’s march was that, if they want to come for any of us, they are going to have to come through all of us." Your issues and mine may differ vastly, but as long as you care about the safety and future of this country and her people, I will stand with you. I hope you will do the same with me.
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It would be a mistake to make all this about Trump. It's not enough to say what you're against. You must say what you're for. Hillary made this mistake and as a result we have Trump.
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Sure. If 'ringing success'=self-indulgent, partisan political, divisive utilisation of women's rights to bash a political opponent and not behavior-process.
Where organisers of the march where excluding women based upon their beliefs which had nothing to do with the behavior they were supposedly rightly objecting to.
"Linda Sarsour, a Brooklyn-born Palestinian-American Muslim racial justice and civil-rights activist, told The New York Times, "If you want to come to the march you are coming with the understanding that you respect a woman's right to choose."" What the Women's March was missing, CNN, By Salena Zito, January 23, 2017
Madonna's speech clearly indicates the issue was Trump not a generic behavior which could just as well be leveled at Bill Clinton, nowhere in the crowd could be seen the image of a cigar. Totally divisive, set to divide as personally experienced where not supporting the march because of its partisan attack on a person not issues had me accused of being philosophically opposed to women's rights.
"...That justice would prevail and that good would win in the end. Well, good did not win this election but good will win in the end. ...
"Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House, but I know that this won't change anything. We cannot fall into despair. ..." partial Transcript of Madonna's Speech
Despair your 'side' lost-not about behavior, process, not about oppressive constructs to challenge.
Where organisers of the march where excluding women based upon their beliefs which had nothing to do with the behavior they were supposedly rightly objecting to.
"Linda Sarsour, a Brooklyn-born Palestinian-American Muslim racial justice and civil-rights activist, told The New York Times, "If you want to come to the march you are coming with the understanding that you respect a woman's right to choose."" What the Women's March was missing, CNN, By Salena Zito, January 23, 2017
Madonna's speech clearly indicates the issue was Trump not a generic behavior which could just as well be leveled at Bill Clinton, nowhere in the crowd could be seen the image of a cigar. Totally divisive, set to divide as personally experienced where not supporting the march because of its partisan attack on a person not issues had me accused of being philosophically opposed to women's rights.
"...That justice would prevail and that good would win in the end. Well, good did not win this election but good will win in the end. ...
"Yes, I'm angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House, but I know that this won't change anything. We cannot fall into despair. ..." partial Transcript of Madonna's Speech
Despair your 'side' lost-not about behavior, process, not about oppressive constructs to challenge.
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Success at what, exactly? This is no Tea Party, which had a set of principles and discipline.
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It was truly a wonderful sight to behold. My hope is that the world wide press coverage of the events sends a clear message to the rest of the world. Despite our freedoms and liberties and our belief in our constitution here in the United States, we stand as one when our dignity, values and level of respect are questioned.
We will not stand on the side of a person who values himself greater than others.
We will not stand on the side of a person who values himself greater than others.
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What's next? Probably a failure to march to polling places for the 2018 midterms.
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People who consider this march a success should look back to the anti-Vietnam war rallies: voters actually became more supportive of the the war when they saw the disorderly and sometimes violent protesters. MLK was careful to make his rallies orderly and avoid crude and insulting behavior and won over most of the American public. It seems to me that many of the Women's March participants only demonstrated that they could be as crude and as careless about facts as Trump.
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they "Love Trumps Hate" and they "Love to Hate Trump". Their hate has really brought them together, for the weekend anyway.
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@Barbara Brooks La Vernia, TX
" . . . It seems to me that many of the Women's March participants only demonstrated that they could be as crude and as careless about facts as Trump."
What, precisely did you observe to warrant such a comment? Were you a participant in any march?
Because people did not even begin to gather for the San Francisco march until 3:00 p.m., I had the opportunity to watch televised coverage of marches in D.C., NY, LA, Chicago and Boston earlier in the day. My son and step-son marched in NY, as did my brother and sister-in-law and many friends; my niece and other friends marched in LA; cousins marched in Chicago; old college friends clogged the streets of Boston; my daughter and her husband and children joined the crowd in Oakland. All reported how civil and calm the marchers were, even when human gridlock in D.C. and Chicago made people anxious.
When the 3:00 rally finally started in San Francisco, the sun had disappeared, a chill drizzle was beginning -- yet the crowds kept coming. I saw no crude behavior or signs, and no "carelessness about facts" (though by Sunday we were all to learn that the Trump gang has studied its Orwell, and
we are now in an age of "Alternative Fact").
By the time the throng headed out to Market Street, it was cold, almost dark, and the rain was pouring. People maintained their cheer and their resolve, and while their signs were melting, they shared umbrellas for the more than two hour march to the Embarcadero.
You should have been there!
" . . . It seems to me that many of the Women's March participants only demonstrated that they could be as crude and as careless about facts as Trump."
What, precisely did you observe to warrant such a comment? Were you a participant in any march?
Because people did not even begin to gather for the San Francisco march until 3:00 p.m., I had the opportunity to watch televised coverage of marches in D.C., NY, LA, Chicago and Boston earlier in the day. My son and step-son marched in NY, as did my brother and sister-in-law and many friends; my niece and other friends marched in LA; cousins marched in Chicago; old college friends clogged the streets of Boston; my daughter and her husband and children joined the crowd in Oakland. All reported how civil and calm the marchers were, even when human gridlock in D.C. and Chicago made people anxious.
When the 3:00 rally finally started in San Francisco, the sun had disappeared, a chill drizzle was beginning -- yet the crowds kept coming. I saw no crude behavior or signs, and no "carelessness about facts" (though by Sunday we were all to learn that the Trump gang has studied its Orwell, and
we are now in an age of "Alternative Fact").
By the time the throng headed out to Market Street, it was cold, almost dark, and the rain was pouring. People maintained their cheer and their resolve, and while their signs were melting, they shared umbrellas for the more than two hour march to the Embarcadero.
You should have been there!
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A lot of this energy must be put into organizing for 2018 not only to get the vote out but to identify candidates to vote for who will win.
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As seen in 2010 and 2014, the 25 Democrats up for reelection in 2018 are on real thin ice -- every freakout like yesterday on the DC stage makes their slog even rougher. Keep it up, please. It helped Nixon immensely in 1972, I recall.
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This weekend was a treasure trove of video that Trump will use later:
- burning cars
- blocking veterans from entrances to the the inauguration
- attacking attendees of various inauguration events
- speeches about bombing the White House
- burning cars
- blocking veterans from entrances to the the inauguration
- attacking attendees of various inauguration events
- speeches about bombing the White House
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None of which happened at the Women's March. Just more of Trump's "alternative facts."
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@Susan, Cape Cod, It's sad to confirm but all of these things did happen (at the Inaguration Friday), and it is all on the internet and in various news stories. And, yes, Madonna did give a speech (at the Women's March) which included the following "...Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House, but I know that this won't change anything..." It is actually a felony to make statements such as this and to incite violence against the President. She is getting a lot of flack over it, as she should. Please stop with the knee-jerk reaction of punching back with whatever the latest catch phrase might be at the moment "alternative facts". These are the facts. Thanks.
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@Jim Verdonik Raleigh, NC
You have tunnel vision: The reckless, violent behavior you describe was at most the actions of 200 misguided people, with the exception of ONE comment by Madonna -- clearly wishful thinking, not "speeches" about bombing the White House.
In reality, this weekend was a treasure trove of videos and comments that every citizen who values the rights and freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution will use from now on to peacefully and democratically oppose the hubristic and reckless agenda of this new administration.
* Current figures indicate that at least 3.3 million marched peacefully and civilly in more than 500 U.S. cities on Saturday, possibly the largest single demonstration in US history. No matter what "Alternate Facts" Trump's Ministers of Propaganda and Lies, Conway and Spicer, may present, this is what the world saw, participated in, cheered on.
* In contrast to the mostly male, mostly white, overwhelmingly rich beyond compare nominees for the Trump cabinet, the marchers everywhere were a gloriously diverse representation of America: men, women, children of all ages, colors, creeds, carrying witty signs of protest, with a resolve to be seen and heard as the real majority Trump seems not to acknowledge as real Americans, his employers.
*The marches on Saturday were the most vivid example of democracy in action ever. Curiously, the number of marchers ialmost equals the fake number of illegal voters Trump still claims cost him the election.
You have tunnel vision: The reckless, violent behavior you describe was at most the actions of 200 misguided people, with the exception of ONE comment by Madonna -- clearly wishful thinking, not "speeches" about bombing the White House.
In reality, this weekend was a treasure trove of videos and comments that every citizen who values the rights and freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution will use from now on to peacefully and democratically oppose the hubristic and reckless agenda of this new administration.
* Current figures indicate that at least 3.3 million marched peacefully and civilly in more than 500 U.S. cities on Saturday, possibly the largest single demonstration in US history. No matter what "Alternate Facts" Trump's Ministers of Propaganda and Lies, Conway and Spicer, may present, this is what the world saw, participated in, cheered on.
* In contrast to the mostly male, mostly white, overwhelmingly rich beyond compare nominees for the Trump cabinet, the marchers everywhere were a gloriously diverse representation of America: men, women, children of all ages, colors, creeds, carrying witty signs of protest, with a resolve to be seen and heard as the real majority Trump seems not to acknowledge as real Americans, his employers.
*The marches on Saturday were the most vivid example of democracy in action ever. Curiously, the number of marchers ialmost equals the fake number of illegal voters Trump still claims cost him the election.
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I marched in Oakland, CA on Saturday. First time in my life to do something like this. My nieces marched in NY and Seattle respectively and other family members in many other cities. Trump had made activists of a lot of us who were happily passive before watching events from the sidelines. Since then I have called Democratic & GOP Congress members, written to Paul Ryan and others about the ACA & Planned Parenthood to start with. I plan to join up with formal movements in the Bay Area to fight for Women's rights, Voting rights, Immigrant protections, college affordability, Equal Pay, Raising minimum wage etc. I am also fighting to get Trump's tax returns released, his conflicts investigated along with Russian connections. I absolutely do not want my tax dollars used to protect Trump's assets around the globe. I feel very strongly about these things and am energized to work on these to the best of my abilities.
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If by success, you mean that there was a great turnout, then yes. Otherwise, not so much.
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All I have to say about the Women's March is that I am with her and her, and her, and .....
Don John, you are in trouble now!
Don John, you are in trouble now!
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"Now what?"... It seems nothing is "sticking" to soften the blows from all of Trump's behavior and degradation towards many women. What's worse is the way the media continues to attack Trump, unsuccessfully.
What now... nothing really, except more of the same from people like Trump. Why? Because, while many women in our country and around the world have tirelessly fought for respect and equality, there's many more women who don't... in fact, they lower the bar, in how all women are treated.
It seems the greatest hope is for more women to stand together, more than ever before, assured that more men are behind them... more than ever before.
What now... nothing really, except more of the same from people like Trump. Why? Because, while many women in our country and around the world have tirelessly fought for respect and equality, there's many more women who don't... in fact, they lower the bar, in how all women are treated.
It seems the greatest hope is for more women to stand together, more than ever before, assured that more men are behind them... more than ever before.
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Let's have a "Day of Solidarity for a Free Press." We're ignoring Trump (he'll hate it) and supporting the latest group he's vilifying. Let's pick a date (Feb. 1?) and donate to ProPublica, Center for Informed Media, or any other group that supports the FIRST Amendment.
Obviously this idea has to be taken up by a large group that can publicize it. Whatever group he happens to be vilifying, will get a "Day of Solidarity for-----."
Trump loves numbers and money speaks to him so lets send him a message that he can understand. Also this is in "support of" something positive rather than in opposition to Trump. Let's IGNORE HIM. Let him pick a fight with any of the many groups he's vilified and let's not fight back. Instead let's support the group he vilifies. He cannot tolerate being ignored and we won't be adding gasoline to the fires of hatred. Love Trumps Hate. Let's prove it. Anybody out there know how to put this idea into action?
And how about some FIRST AMENDMENT buttons, pins posters? The right has claimed the second amendment but the FIRST is even more important. Google it!
Obviously this idea has to be taken up by a large group that can publicize it. Whatever group he happens to be vilifying, will get a "Day of Solidarity for-----."
Trump loves numbers and money speaks to him so lets send him a message that he can understand. Also this is in "support of" something positive rather than in opposition to Trump. Let's IGNORE HIM. Let him pick a fight with any of the many groups he's vilified and let's not fight back. Instead let's support the group he vilifies. He cannot tolerate being ignored and we won't be adding gasoline to the fires of hatred. Love Trumps Hate. Let's prove it. Anybody out there know how to put this idea into action?
And how about some FIRST AMENDMENT buttons, pins posters? The right has claimed the second amendment but the FIRST is even more important. Google it!
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Bet it would get more attention if it were called "Day of Defiance" or "Day of Resistance"
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Given that Trump is seen as a horrible choice to those who work for progress in gender, racial, environmental, etc issues, it might be productive to consider that SOME fellow citizens - in dire economic straits of decades long standing - held their noses to vote Trump. In other words they are not all "deplorables" and did not see that help forthcoming from Democratic candidates (other than possibly Bernie, whose "Socialist" descriptor probably scared some off).
What the Democrats need - as I see it - is something equivalent to FDR's Works Progress Administration - a policy to give them IMMEDIATE relief.
What the Democrats need - as I see it - is something equivalent to FDR's Works Progress Administration - a policy to give them IMMEDIATE relief.
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Dear Kaari:
Republicans painted FDR with the Socialist label, but it did not work because the Great Depression occurred on Hoover's watch. so there was simply no chance of Americans voting Republican. Democrats could have nominated anyone.
If Trump, who many of us see him for the demagogic unhinged psychotic he's always been, proves us right, and becomes our Hoover, then Democrats could be in the cat bird seat come 2020.
What is more important however is that the power of the Women's March on Saturday does not lose steam, becoming a one-off. That all of us, Women and Men who are Never Trumpers, remain vigilant, read Real News, and organize for the next campaign, which is but a year away, then the retaking of the ideals set forth by President Obama can be salvaged.
If we take a realistic look at what happened, an Electoral College-rigged election victory, as the fluke it is, and keep in mind the actual vote totals, then we will win.
Democrats have this tendency of being compliant. We are terrible in off-year elections even with President Obama in office. We did not have his back. Six million fewer Dems voted in '16 than in '12. Not only the deplorable basket of Trumpians bought the snake oil, the Left did too. Dems believed Hillary was "untrustworthy". Shame on them. They are in same boat as Trumpians who have an excuse because they're dim bulbs.
So, lazy Dems, here's your wake-up call. Be there in 2018 and 2020 or cast all hope aside.
DD
Manhattan
Republicans painted FDR with the Socialist label, but it did not work because the Great Depression occurred on Hoover's watch. so there was simply no chance of Americans voting Republican. Democrats could have nominated anyone.
If Trump, who many of us see him for the demagogic unhinged psychotic he's always been, proves us right, and becomes our Hoover, then Democrats could be in the cat bird seat come 2020.
What is more important however is that the power of the Women's March on Saturday does not lose steam, becoming a one-off. That all of us, Women and Men who are Never Trumpers, remain vigilant, read Real News, and organize for the next campaign, which is but a year away, then the retaking of the ideals set forth by President Obama can be salvaged.
If we take a realistic look at what happened, an Electoral College-rigged election victory, as the fluke it is, and keep in mind the actual vote totals, then we will win.
Democrats have this tendency of being compliant. We are terrible in off-year elections even with President Obama in office. We did not have his back. Six million fewer Dems voted in '16 than in '12. Not only the deplorable basket of Trumpians bought the snake oil, the Left did too. Dems believed Hillary was "untrustworthy". Shame on them. They are in same boat as Trumpians who have an excuse because they're dim bulbs.
So, lazy Dems, here's your wake-up call. Be there in 2018 and 2020 or cast all hope aside.
DD
Manhattan
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Here is an example where the structure of the headline contains our most difficult, structural problem. Why do we have to go all from positive to negative s inside one statement. How about "After Success of Women's March, Hopes for More Success To Come" It seems no one can escape the endemic disease of polarizing analysis. The headline puts us in the "this against that" category, the good/bad paradigm, inside of which our worst thinking is nurtured and continues to infect most minds.
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So where were these millions of passionate women on Election Day. DJT is president today because the majority of women voted for him. These national and international demonstrations are literally a day late, and a dollar short. The news reports of how good they feel about themselves demonstrating against Trump, do not cover up their poor performance at the ballot box when it really mattered.
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A majority of women, and a majority of all voters, voted for Clinton. Trump was made president against the will of the people.
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"DJT is president today because the majority of women voted for him."
No , the majority of women did not vote for him, the majority of white female voters did. That's a big difference.
No , the majority of women did not vote for him, the majority of white female voters did. That's a big difference.
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Sources, please. Never saw this reported anywhere in such general vague assertions.
Just watched Sean Splicer's news briefing. He softened his tone quite a bit. Do not believe they have changing of heart. It happens only because the outrage expressed by the people.
Keep the pressure on!!
Keep the pressure on!!
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Why has the left problems with democracy? Should we now organize marches and after every big march we change Gouvernements?
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If the road to power is littered with hate, then I feel a moral obligation to show disapproval. If your friends or family are not any of the oppressed then no worries for you, I suppose.
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Wash this march a true ringing success? I doubt it. After all, these marches were held in big metro area cities that had heavily voted for Hillary Clinton. They are not bastions for Trump. What would be a success would be a march of 100,000 in cities like Cleveland, Kansas City, metro areas in the heart of the red states. Sadly, these marches are fundamentally nothing more than "preaching to choir" or shouting out slogans in an echo chamber.
I did not vote for Trump and do not like him. However, I see little sense in these "feel good actions", i.e., marching and carrying signs. We need action and we need good straightforward candidates, something the Democratic Party seems incapable of producing.
I blame Trumps victory on the Democratic National Committee and their blindness and un-tuned ears to the Average American. They did not understand or hear what was happening to Middle America. The DNC and its leadership was captivated by the major metro areas and popular celebrities who all lead very comfortable lives. They forgot about the rust belt and those who lost jobs. Sure some jobs were created but not in the locations where the good jobs were lost!
I did not vote for Trump and do not like him. However, I see little sense in these "feel good actions", i.e., marching and carrying signs. We need action and we need good straightforward candidates, something the Democratic Party seems incapable of producing.
I blame Trumps victory on the Democratic National Committee and their blindness and un-tuned ears to the Average American. They did not understand or hear what was happening to Middle America. The DNC and its leadership was captivated by the major metro areas and popular celebrities who all lead very comfortable lives. They forgot about the rust belt and those who lost jobs. Sure some jobs were created but not in the locations where the good jobs were lost!
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Totally agree. And I think for many low information voters, this became a protest vote at our whole political system. I've been a Dem for 40 years, some years fairly active. I marched in my city (Saradota) but now I want to explore the Independent party. The Dems have to totally reinvent themselves instead of trying to straddle the middle. They became Republican lite instead of the party with Progressive ideas. And then we/they really need to get out of Starbucks and reach out. I think we should join the move to push some divisive issues back to states - like abortion and guns and marijuana. Let each state decide for itself. The days of generations living in one place is gone. People can move to the areas where they are most comfortable culturally. So that conservative idea of moving power from the Fed to the states should be considered in some ways to give Americans more options.. At the same time, we as a nation should value the wide beautiful geographical expanses that make this such an amazing country and collectively come up with a strategy and the initial financial help to create enterprise zones (with global markets) in the areas of the country that the digital age has left behind. .
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Marching is important and we should keep doing it. But we MUST change Congress in 2018, and we MUST call Congress daily to tell them to oppose fascism, racism and misogyny, and policy choices that threaten our national security. Call Congress. Register people in swing precincts. This is a fight for our survival.
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The march, which I took part in Portland, OR, is to remind us to not take anything for granted in this country. I am as shocked as the next person the electorate could elect such an obvious empty jacket and phony. My rationale goes to: no critical thinking being taught in our schools, few checking if the news they believe is actually based in fact, versus opinion, and making an important choice flippantly .
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It was not a success. They have neither stopped or reversed any Trump policies. Where were they before the election?
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He lost the popular vote. Did you forget?
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Electoral College trumps Popular Vote every time. How could you forget that?
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I am so appreciative of all those who participated in the march in Washington and in so many other cities throughout the world. Thanks! In a time and in a world where very few people, including the corporate media, engage in critical thinking, I would love to see the populous engage in a strategy of teaching citizens to think critically. Frankly, I've been appalled at the lack of skilled thinking on the part of both Democrats and Republicans. I realize the political power/influence equals economic advantage, but critical thinking about everything from climate to economics to health will make a much bigger difference for the 99%, who hope their children and children's children have a life without the brutality of poverty, xenophobia, racism, religious intolerance, etc. So ... what's next?
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As well as being pro-choice on abortion, we need to work for laws that give independent income, paid by the working parent , to stay-at-home moms or dads. We also need to find a way to reimburse other care-givers.
Feminism should be for sovereignty of a woman over her own body. And it should be demanding fair compensation for her work in both public and private capacities. There is no more important work than raising a child. It should not be taken for granted nor be unpaid.
Feminism should be for sovereignty of a woman over her own body. And it should be demanding fair compensation for her work in both public and private capacities. There is no more important work than raising a child. It should not be taken for granted nor be unpaid.
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Had it not been for constant marches AND demonstrations, the Viet Nam war would never have ended!
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I'm too old to do much, but I managed to take my son and travel to Washington D.C. the other day to attend the women's march. I was truly inspired and humbled by the outpouring of love and inclusion we felt in that massive crowd. I just finished looking at pictures of marches all over the globe, and the pictures we took. The faces of diversity rings the bells of freedom for me, and I'm today more proud of my country than I've ever been.
As we walked down K street and first got a glimpse of the crowds on the mall, my heart swelled and I burst into tears with pride at the courage and inclusivity of my people. The diversity of the globe was there. My American brothers and sisters. WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER.
Love to all we met there:)
My feet hurt but my fingers have typed letters to three of my congresspeople today. Just do it! Do something, no matter how small. It adds up.
As we walked down K street and first got a glimpse of the crowds on the mall, my heart swelled and I burst into tears with pride at the courage and inclusivity of my people. The diversity of the globe was there. My American brothers and sisters. WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER.
Love to all we met there:)
My feet hurt but my fingers have typed letters to three of my congresspeople today. Just do it! Do something, no matter how small. It adds up.
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Women’s March Was a Ringing Success. Now What?
Now stop the ad hominem attacks on Trump supporters - of which I am most assuredly not one - else we will have Trump in the White House for eight years, instead of just four.
Now stop the ad hominem attacks on Trump supporters - of which I am most assuredly not one - else we will have Trump in the White House for eight years, instead of just four.
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Followed by 4 years of the first female president, Ivanka. She'll trounce Chelsea, Madonna, and Jill Stein in 2024.
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Women need to run for office. School Board, local and national positions. If you don't want to hold a political position, then work to get women elected.
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i was in sf for this. i haven't seen a crowd like that since 1968.
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When Nixon was elected. See what influence we have
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Where were the questions about these massive marches in todays press conference?? Where was the crowd size discussion, size being so important to this president, of the marches?? I am on the side of the press in this exchange with Trump, but you cannot just ignore the astounding events, around the world, that occurred on day one of this administration. What was his reaction?? I marched with the 750,000 in LA. and this is not a walking town. Come on. we are in new territory here and that goes for the press, too. You cannot just go on as if this is business as usual!!
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This march smashed existing templates, so please fight the impulse to stick it into a box you understand, to presume to give the moment an overlay of your own. Most likely, having expressed intention and dissatisfaction, marchers will return to their lives and watch, and wait. Down the line they will execute on their public statements, and vote.
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This isn't going anywhere. One month from now, no one will remember what it meant. That's because no one knows what it means now. As an anti-Trump rally disguised as a women's march, its participants showcased a myriad of competing, conflicting and some already achieved objectives - not all of them progressive. Basically more emotion than thought was brought to bear.
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i love this comment. mansplaining at its most unctuous.
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You do seem to be pretty emotional about it.
I heard St. Paul had a wonderful turn out as well.
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How dare a man say his opinion
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the sight of the march in NY was just breath taking. we will not be stopped, we've just gotten started.
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The key is to be proactive every moment. Don't simply be reactive to what the POTUS or his loonies say or do.
Assert your own agenda, follow up on it, and lastly.....never, ever forget to remind white working class workers at all times how any of them are benefitting from the POTUS. Repeat this message enough to them so that every 2 years when there are elections they'll remember the stuff they took for granted prior to Trump.
Assert your own agenda, follow up on it, and lastly.....never, ever forget to remind white working class workers at all times how any of them are benefitting from the POTUS. Repeat this message enough to them so that every 2 years when there are elections they'll remember the stuff they took for granted prior to Trump.
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Loonies? Did you pay any attention to the marchers? Most American's would agree that the marchers did very much fit that description.
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The incredible turnout in the women's march, in Washington, DC, around the US and around the globe is noteworthy in that it was entirely peaceful and without violence.
Previous public demonstrations were highly effective in cutting short the deeply flawed Administrations of Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson.
Previous public demonstrations were highly effective in cutting short the deeply flawed Administrations of Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson.
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Google the following to find the link: "Petition to Immediately Release Donald Trump's Tax Returns, with all information needed to verify emoluments clause compliance" - then sign that PETITION and then FEEL FREE TO PASS THE LINK (while you still are).
It is a petition that was created on January 20th with a goal of 100,000 signatures to be met in 30 days.
And in less than 3 days it has managed, thus far, to obtain over a quarter of a million.
THAT's what now.
It is a petition that was created on January 20th with a goal of 100,000 signatures to be met in 30 days.
And in less than 3 days it has managed, thus far, to obtain over a quarter of a million.
THAT's what now.
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Climate change is going to decimate our future if left unaddressed. Trump will play a big role in the earth's destruction as he defunds the EPA, NASA and the DOE and pulls the US out of the Paris Climate Accord.
Come to Washington DC on April 29 to march for Climate Action. Go to the 350.org website to learn more. Don't allow this administration to destroy the progress we've made on climate change and destroy our children's futures!
Come to Washington DC on April 29 to march for Climate Action. Go to the 350.org website to learn more. Don't allow this administration to destroy the progress we've made on climate change and destroy our children's futures!
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What's next? Organize and keep this initiative going through voter drives, voting rights lawsuits, outreach to the disenfranchised working class by progressives and Democrats, identifying/recruiting the next generation of political leaders, etc. All with an eye toward turnout in 2018 and 2020.
The young person in New York working at Starbucks with two masters degrees, the working class person who lost his/her manufacturing job in Ohio and the undocumented man/women cleaning office buildings overnight in Los Angeles have far more in common with each other than the billionaire "populists" now running the government.
The young person in New York working at Starbucks with two masters degrees, the working class person who lost his/her manufacturing job in Ohio and the undocumented man/women cleaning office buildings overnight in Los Angeles have far more in common with each other than the billionaire "populists" now running the government.
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Let's swamp the White House mailroom with letters to Trump commenting on his actions and policies. 1MM folks marched. If just half of these folks write once a month, we can send Trumpie 20K letters per day, which exceeds President Obama's average of 10K/day.
it's easy. for the simple details, go to writeTrump.ghiek.com. Let's make a swamp we like - and that Trumpie can only read about.
it's easy. for the simple details, go to writeTrump.ghiek.com. Let's make a swamp we like - and that Trumpie can only read about.
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Call your Senators and Reps.
Every Day
Every Day
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No wonder nothing got done under Reid-Pelosi-Obama from 2008-10, they were too busy taking phone calls from disgruntled constituents.
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The women marchers have the same problem that Trump and his supporters have. A lot of vague anxiety and anger. They show that they have the ability to do something but they don't know what to do. Their ideal society was promptly hijacked by the 1% leaving them and Trump supporters worse off then ever. All of the comments I've read say baisicly that they should keep going until they reach the magical LaLa land they hoped for. They haven't realized they have already created Lala land. Sadly, Lala land has Trump for President.
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I suggest to Rtbinc that he read the comments by their popularity as Reader's Picks, then he will readily see that the Times readers suggesting an organized and concentrated pressure on their politicians will curry positive results. The misogynist assumption in your language "the women marchers . . " misses the large presence and support of the men and this combined with your dismissive tone makes your professed "leftist" stance against the "1%" transparently suspect. Just like a lot of Brexit here was led around by Russian Trolls, the US is beset by the same problem.
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were you there? because anxiety and anger weren't the dominant emotions. excitement and empowerment, maybe.
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@ Peter
The top Reader's Picks simply echo the Left's party line - and that right there is what put Trump in office.
The top Reader's Picks simply echo the Left's party line - and that right there is what put Trump in office.
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This article highlights how important follow up is, so I hope the NYT will follow up on this and publish some links to organizations that women can explore if they want to take action. All I keep hearing is "call your representative" which is great advice for someone in a district that doesn't support women's rights, but what do women who live in liberal areas do? I already know my representatives fight for women's reproductive freedom, climate change and other issues that concern me. What else can we do? Please media, publish some ideas or organizations to contact.
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I was overwhelmed by my experience at the Chicago rally. Never have I seen 250,000 people crammed into a small area behave so politely and respectfully. Organizers urged us not to walk on the grass and only a few did, even when it meant slowing the mass exit from the rally site. Though the main focus was on women's rights, concern for the environment, education and health care were also prominent. Why shouldn't they be? It was joyful, uplifting, empowering, and profoundly moving.
This was a gift from a group of determined women to all of us. If this is the way women lead political movements in the 21st century, bring it on! We will all be so much better off once women achieve full equality. We are the majority and we will not be stopped until this far-right hostile takeover of our country is rolled back. This wasn't what the large majority of voters wanted.
This was a gift from a group of determined women to all of us. If this is the way women lead political movements in the 21st century, bring it on! We will all be so much better off once women achieve full equality. We are the majority and we will not be stopped until this far-right hostile takeover of our country is rolled back. This wasn't what the large majority of voters wanted.
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This beautiful powerful protest will be in vain if it is not channeled into real political activity; it has to have a clear and simple idea/aim; it has to have a seasoned political figure-head, (Bernie Sanders is one example).
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Now what? You're kidding, NYT. Ask any black woman aged 18 to 108. I'm sure they can give you a laundry list of what needs to be done because they've been doing it these 400 years, with not much support from their white counterparts.
Clearly, this question is directed at the majority of white women who voted for trump. Now what, indeed.
Clearly, this question is directed at the majority of white women who voted for trump. Now what, indeed.
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many of us marched with black women, too
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I didn't march, but I was inspired by those who did. On Saturday I wrote my county executive, imploring him to sign recently passed legislation that raises our minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2020. Montgomery County, MD is one of the wealthiest counties in the country, led by a Democratic majority on our county council and a Democratic executive. That's how we all can take a lesson from the marches this past weekend: know our local representatives and let them know what we want to make this country more equal for all.
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Organic protest???? Who are you fooling? A glance at the march website shows it was a highly organized and planned partisan protest against a legitimate and legally elected President by the Democrat Party and its organizations. It was carefully calibrated to attract the women who supported HRC and were disappointed that a woman was not elected.
It is shameful that the media is pretending that this is not a Democrat sponsered protest the day after the Inauguration. There are millions of women who did not drink the kool aid of the Obama administration.
It is shameful that the media is pretending that this is not a Democrat sponsered protest the day after the Inauguration. There are millions of women who did not drink the kool aid of the Obama administration.
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That is all supposition on your part China. You are purporting to speak for millions of individuals who came out for many different individual reasons. What is shameful is your attempt to put this organic event into your own narrow political narrative, one based on political beliefs and conjecture.
And "organic' and "organized" are not mutually exclusive concepts. Did you expect over a million women and men to simply divine when and where to peacefully coalesce and demonstrate?
And "organic' and "organized" are not mutually exclusive concepts. Did you expect over a million women and men to simply divine when and where to peacefully coalesce and demonstrate?
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Wow, what a random mess of excuses why millions of people marching must be ignored.
This is what we get from Trump supporters and Trump: this slew of reasons why this or that group of Americans don't count for anything, and that the only people whose opinions count are Trump acolytes.
This is what we get from Trump supporters and Trump: this slew of reasons why this or that group of Americans don't count for anything, and that the only people whose opinions count are Trump acolytes.
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What exactly DID they accomplish (besides making a huge mess in all the major cities)? Also they spent millions of dollars to scream,yell and chant. I'm all for equal rights, but you wasted your time and money "ladies"! You were demanding what you already have.
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You tell me Wes. It got your attention didn't it?
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Sounds like "no dinner tonight, honey, I'm going to a meeting." Is about all that would "get Wes's attention." Followed by, "The divorce decree is packed along with the rest of the luggage and a restraining order. The police are on their way, and I'm afraid I'll have to ask that you leave now, Wes, here's Smith and Wesson, my law proxy. "
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Well Wes sure has his shorts in a twist.
Guess what? you never have to "get it" for other people/US citizens to exercise their Constitutional rights. You can remain forever in a bubble. The world will spin on with or without you.
Guess what? you never have to "get it" for other people/US citizens to exercise their Constitutional rights. You can remain forever in a bubble. The world will spin on with or without you.
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I proudly marched with friends and family in DC on Saturday. It was such a powerful event -- the March heard round the world. (Indeed, it was the March DONE around the world.)
My representative to the House of Representatives told me yesterday that what will be required to change the political landscape in the U.S. is face-to-face/door-to-door contact between activists and those that may be persuaded to vote in the upcoming elections. He told me that Democrats have been foolhardy in raising millions (indeed billions) of dollars and just funneling the money to consultants. I couldn't agree more.
My representative to the House of Representatives told me yesterday that what will be required to change the political landscape in the U.S. is face-to-face/door-to-door contact between activists and those that may be persuaded to vote in the upcoming elections. He told me that Democrats have been foolhardy in raising millions (indeed billions) of dollars and just funneling the money to consultants. I couldn't agree more.
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I would like to see the women's movement devote all that energy to one significant issue such as doing away with the electoral college and going to a direct vote.
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Earlier in the day, I had seen on 2 websites that Hillary only won 57 counties so I repeated that on the NYT comment. I just found out now that Hillary actually won 487 counties and Trump won 2,654. I wanted to set the record straight.
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Here is a link to the Snopes debunking of the Trump LIE re. votes by county. Look at the weighted maps for a truly representative graphic. The close to 500 counties that Clinton won were highly populated. The opioid addicted and dirt filled ones Trump one were equally populated by vultures, cacti, and had larger populations of rodents and road kill than living breathing voters.
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Let's go to the maps of counties for Clinton weighted by population . . Trump doesn't look so good.
http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/
http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/
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Trump looked mighty fine in the 200 counties that voted for Obama in 2012, and Trump in 2016, Vegas.
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In California, I think about how the Governor vetoed a sales tax exemption on feminine products last September and how the state's Democratic supermajority only creates policies that make housing unaffordable for families. A recent State legislative analyst report found income mobility is hurt by relocating to California due to state professional licensing and education policies, and this disproportionately affects women due to the wealth gap. It's easy to deflect attention to a perceived brute in Washington when the vast majority of policies affecting women are decided at the state and local level and where Democratic track records on these issues are abysmal.
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republicans are better? i'd rather be a woman in california than in trump tower
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Trump is ego-driven to the point of insanity.
We all saw the effect these enormous crowds of strong, united, anti-Trump women had on a blatant sexist who thinks all women within his eyesight should be young, thin, mute, smiling, and submissive. Just keep poking him with a pointed stick and he'll eventually implode.
We all saw the effect these enormous crowds of strong, united, anti-Trump women had on a blatant sexist who thinks all women within his eyesight should be young, thin, mute, smiling, and submissive. Just keep poking him with a pointed stick and he'll eventually implode.
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What happens now? In a rational world, the following would happen. The women realize they have full equal rights in America. The women realize muslim countries deny women basic human rights. The women organize massive ongoing protests against islam, demand muslim countries provide women full rights in the heathen muslim lands. Also, many fit women might enlist in the armed services, volunteer to fight, destroy, annihilate heathen islam, however, wherever they can. Those not fit for armed service, should register as Republicans, do whatever they can to support the Trump administration.
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Not interested.
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Satire? Lame at best.....
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Well that was hardly rational.
What would be rational is putting down the Drudge report and getting some actual journalism in your veins.
What would be rational is putting down the Drudge report and getting some actual journalism in your veins.
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No matter how many issues were presented at the marches, ultimately there is only one - the preservation of our democracy which means freedom and equality for all.
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I think you need to reference the definition of Success. You succeeded in only leaving a lot of trash for someone else to clean. Good job, you marched against a lawfully elected Government for no apparent reason other than your candidate(s) did not win but were elected overwhelmingly into office by the working class. You know the ones cleaning the streets after you, those people. How many of you do-gooder know-everything professional marchers did any volunteer work in your neighborhoods. You would be welcome in the local public schools, ever worked in a soup line, how about in the V.A. Hospital or Children's hospital. I thought not. Easier to blame others. Pointing the finger is easier than lifting a finger.
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Focas on health care. The republicans and some turncoat democrats are extremely vulnerable on this issue. Americans overwhelmingly agree that everybody deserves health care. The case can be made that we are now going in the wrong direction and that Senators on both sides of the aisle are in the hip pocket of big pharma and others in the health care conglomerate. During the first week of the new Congress an amendment prepared by Senator Sanders that would have allowed the U.S. to import cheaper prescription drugs from Canada failed to garner enough votes in the Senate to pass. 13 turncoat Democrats voted against the amendment. At the same time that we hit the streets we need to borrow a page from the tea party recipe and endeavor to primary out the these turncoats in the midterm elections.
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Trump just signed an executive order reinstating the global gag rule. He did this in the Oval Office surrounded by mostly white men.
The attack on women's health and reproductive rights continues and is intensifying. We must use the momentum of the March to empower women and to keep our bodies and our choices our own.
The attack on women's health and reproductive rights continues and is intensifying. We must use the momentum of the March to empower women and to keep our bodies and our choices our own.
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Contact your county political party office, and tell them you want to get involved. Voter registration, party events, find out who your state legislator is and what they stand for, start making the connections to run for office yourself. Don't just march in the street, march into political office. It takes work; it takes years; start working in the organizations that get you (or others who believe what you believe) into local, state, and national office.
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An articulate spokesperson, or a smaller number of such, and a careful curation and prioritization of issues are essential. The ongoing movement can be driven by women’s issues, but it must not be primarily about them. The demonstrations were wonderfully inclusive; lots of men, including white men, in addition to marginalized communities. Broader themes of justice, and respect for individual rights, truth and science, must be maintained.
The most immediate issue is procedural – Mr. Trump must be forced to realize that the election was not a poker game, in which the sole winner, by whatever type of margin, gets all the chips and the losers acknowledge that this is fair because it was pre-agreed. In the US election, the winner is the legitimate president, but s/he only gets to govern in accordance with what the majority will accept. Awkwardly for Mr. Trump, the majority of Americans strongly oppose him, and he must come to terms with that. The American people can shut down a government which they do not support, and the US Constitution protects this right. Confronted with a massive crowds that paralyze and frustrate his administration, he will surrender his belief in landslides and mandates, desperate as he is for approval and admiration, and troubled as he is by disapproval and disdain. Highlighting this procedural point will prevent his tight circle of advisers from manipulating him for their own purposes by misrepresenting far right views as those of the majority.
The most immediate issue is procedural – Mr. Trump must be forced to realize that the election was not a poker game, in which the sole winner, by whatever type of margin, gets all the chips and the losers acknowledge that this is fair because it was pre-agreed. In the US election, the winner is the legitimate president, but s/he only gets to govern in accordance with what the majority will accept. Awkwardly for Mr. Trump, the majority of Americans strongly oppose him, and he must come to terms with that. The American people can shut down a government which they do not support, and the US Constitution protects this right. Confronted with a massive crowds that paralyze and frustrate his administration, he will surrender his belief in landslides and mandates, desperate as he is for approval and admiration, and troubled as he is by disapproval and disdain. Highlighting this procedural point will prevent his tight circle of advisers from manipulating him for their own purposes by misrepresenting far right views as those of the majority.
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"More than a million...." ??? I've counted over 2.5 million based on 30 cities and towns, and there were so many more rallies than that. I noticed this in other coverage from the Times Saturday. Is there a method or reason behind the Times' lower estimates?
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Next March- April 15th- the American people demand to see the tax returns of the President. And Congress must pass a law requiring this.
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What's next? Simple. Trump claimed he is giving the power back to the people. Let's use it. Call your Senators and your congressional representatives. Someone will answer the phone, and they will take your message. At least they do in my state. Also, send a SHORT note saying what you want them to do (e.g., Vote NO on Devos). I hand write them to show they are from a real person and not simply chain letters. Keep track of how your representatives vote. If they do not vote how you want, vote them out. I am finally doing all of this and finding it is not hard or time consuming. And for the first time in my 30+ years of voting, I feel my opinion is being heard.
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We must stand up against Trump and his cohorts, and anyone else, whenever he and his cohorts and others are being authoritarian.
Stopping authoritarianism, in any shape and form authoritarianism takes, is what being democratic is all about.
Say "no" to and stop tyranny.
Say "no" to and stop Trump's from employing authoritarian utterances, ideas, acts, policies, procedures, legislation, resultant laws; and, as well, Trump' encouraging Americans to be authoritarian toward other.
Being authoritarian is favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
And stop Trump from his ultra-dangerous words and acts against Freedom of The Press, Freedom of the Press which is one of the mainstays of American democracy.
Trump's speech, his speaking out, has, and is likely to again, cross the line between Freedom of Speech over to calling out "fire" in a crowded theatre in order to hurt other people.
Stopping authoritarianism, in any shape and form authoritarianism takes, is what being democratic is all about.
Say "no" to and stop tyranny.
Say "no" to and stop Trump's from employing authoritarian utterances, ideas, acts, policies, procedures, legislation, resultant laws; and, as well, Trump' encouraging Americans to be authoritarian toward other.
Being authoritarian is favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.
And stop Trump from his ultra-dangerous words and acts against Freedom of The Press, Freedom of the Press which is one of the mainstays of American democracy.
Trump's speech, his speaking out, has, and is likely to again, cross the line between Freedom of Speech over to calling out "fire" in a crowded theatre in order to hurt other people.
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I'm watching Sean Spicer's press briefing. Those in the "resistance" had better watch it all for yourselves. This is, as you know, a smooth and effective propaganda operation. They are selling pretty words and its seductive. They are setting up the dialogue so that all who criticize or disagree will be seen to be hampering trump's efforts to make America great again: you will indeed be the "enemy". Watch and listen objectively. In the name of jobs you will lose the following: healthcare, your environment, your reproductive rights, your civil and human rights. All of America's assets (people, environment) will be used to maximize jobs and maximize profits. "Bi-lateral" trade agreements is the buzz word. The EU is the largest trading block and the largest economy in the world. Russia has it's own goals in wanting it to fail. Now trump's goal is clear as well: America cannot impose itself on the EU the way it intends to in one-on-one in bilateral agreements. There are going to be many unintended consequences leading to global financial instability and the intended consequence of destabilizing democracies. American businesses will be on steroids reaping all they can from the world's people, environment. (You'll note also: first question taken by Spicer was from the New York Post!). The only way you can fight this is to GET ELECTED to office.
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The reporters seemed cowed and compliant. There was just the tiniest bit of resistance. Spicer talked with glee for example about the plundering of countries where the US military is fighting (leaving aside for the moment the criminality of their very presence in the first place). Not a peep from the press. And hardly one question with any force behind it about anything.
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Awesome, to think about the money DC encountered over the Inauguration and March Movement in just a very few days. Makes me wonder if it had not been engineered. Intelligent..
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Yeah! Trump the Traitor's secret economic stimulus plan is to have over half the country travel around protesting his existence. Brilliant.
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Marching will not change the minds of the blue collar whites who voted in Trump and a solid majority of Republicans in Congress. It is time for the marchers to roll up their sleeves and get to know the Trump voters and their problems. The the marchers should work hard to meet the needs and fears of the Trump voters. Marching is fun and exciting, building solid bridges is hard work.
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The Clinton campaign needed to get to know them A YEAR AGO or more.
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Jeff: The two are not mutually exclusive. The modern Democratic Party was built by defending the working person and championing the modern Labor movement. They are natural allies of the progressive/Democrat agenda, not Trump and his billionaire faux populism. The energy and enthusiasm generated from marching can be channeled into more "nuts and bolts" efforts, like re-connecting with the disenfranchised working class you mention, voter registration drives, opposition to voter suppression efforts, etc.
The two highlights of this inaugural weekend were the amazing Women's March and Barron Trump playing peek-a-boo with his nephew - regrettably the latter is apex of the new administration for the next four years.
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It should be obvious what is next, given that Trump has now signed an order at the very top of the Christian Sharia Law brigade's play list: it is the start of thoroughly gutting women's reproductive health services in this nation, and around the world. Women who are raped will be forced to bear the children of their rapists; women without sufficient financial means will be denied access to contraception, cancer screenings, etc. Meanwhile, these medieval white men will swallow their little blue Viagra pills unimpeded by such constraints. I vote that any man seeking an ED pill be forced to have public digital rectal exams, be forced to ask his minister or priest whether he can have such a pill, and be forced to undergo a minimum 72 hour waiting period before he might obtain that pill, be forced to face a pharmacist intoning that such pills "violate his or her religious beliefs," and then refuse to fill or return that prescription, and to be subjected to gauntlets of that ostensible "gentle counseling," as the right wing John Roberts opined - which means screaming, threatening lunatics who will harass, demean, and photograph the man's license plates. To the GOTP: we do NOT live in a theocracy, nor is this a Christian nation - butt out of women's medical care! 1/23, 2:54 PM
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I think the ideal response is to take all the men and women that marched or watched the March in the U.S.A. and start a new party (not just finding progressive candidates). I suggest Michelle Obama as the head of the party:) Who else might be good? Who shall be our candidates in 2018 and 2020? It does not have to be a woman. Women's rights are human rights. A highly evolved man will do. What qualifications must they have? Please, not to diss her, but don't suggest HRC. It is time to move on. It is time to organize permanently. Not just for one day and not just for one march. Put on our pink hats grab your signs and be there every weekend outside of our state capitals, governors' and senators' homes (Democrats and Republicans) and in DC. The squeaky wheel gets oiled. What shall we call our party? Suggestions? We will unite against all profiteers and politicians that stink of bigotry, racism, and anti-science, anti-civil rights, those that are anti- immigrants, anti-freedom of religion, and anti-women's rights. Clog up the phone lines to radio shock jocks like Rush, call your Congress reps, the White House. Call now, call often. Call at lunch or on your coffee breaks. write letters daily (mail them). Be loud. Do not be afraid. Fight them. Frustrate them. Rattle their gages. Use facts. Have fun with them. Make them crazy. We will be stronger if we do it as a Party with our own candidates at all levels of government.
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Many women on Facebook etc. objected to this march because they did not understand it. That was a clue in itself. We have so many women who have not faced poverty, not faced discrimination, not faced having to lose a job to a man, not suffered violence because of a man, and have never had to wonder about paying for health issues. They are lucky. Many women realized this and went out to support those women who struggle. Some of them have struggled also. No the women who didn't have a clue focused on Madonna. Too bad they forgot about how few them complained about Scott Baio.
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What's next? Those who participated and were supportive of the spectacular march can put their issues into action by voting. Focusing on the mid-terms elections is an important start. Advocate and vote for the candidates that will promote the issues that you care about.
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Counter the Tea Party with the Coffee Break
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The marches weren't about feminism. The marches were about the rights people have to direct major issues in their life. The marches demonstrated that we have free speech and the right to peaceful assembly guaranteed by the constitution. I kept hearing "why are they marching" "give Trump a chance" but rights are never handed to you with out a fight. Rights can also be taken away. During the primary people were heard chanting to void the 19th amendment to take away the right for certain citizens to vote. I take that seriously given all the restrictions on voting that is occurring. We need to be vigilant with the president and congress. Don't be distracted by the daily television "news" which isn't really news just more entertainment and distraction.
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What most on the liberal side of issues see is their inability to formulate a cogent set of messages that is convincing to the public. For instance, what happened prior to Roe v. Wade? Why did desperate women seek a solution without licensed medical help? What were the consequences? Did women die as a result, were the survivors children? What are the long term outcomes of refusal to abortion: probabilities of poverty, federal aid for mother and children, crime can be extrapolated, quantified. And wasn't this nation formed in large part to escape the religious oppression of having other religious views dictating one's life and worship.
Catchy slogans, pink hats, nasty slang will not likely win hearts and minds. THINK!
Catchy slogans, pink hats, nasty slang will not likely win hearts and minds. THINK!
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One difference is that Trump’s ascendancy represents its own political movement, and whereas Obama was (or quickly became) very much a part of the Democratic Party’s establishment, Trump remains something of a provocateur within his own party. He brings an energy to Washington that confounds opposition tactics based on earlier models.
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I stand correct, Madonna said, "never get a Pommy." That's what the Trumpster's hair do reminded her of.
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All your base are belong to us!
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The Women's march was not a success if it fails to convince people who voted for Trump they were wrong to vote for him.
Liberals haven't learned one thing after losing an election that should have been won easily.
It is admirable to fight for what you think is right.
It is stupid to do so if that fight doesn't help you.
Instead of fighting Trump you should work with him.
If you do not challenge him by demonstrating in the street he will compromise with you if you compromise some in his direction as he knows he can not count on the Tea party to support him in the future.
If after you try to work with him and you have totally no success you should work towards those aims not fight for them as we live in a democracy where you can not dictate to everyone else how things should be.
To me that is what the protest was trying to do and it is this attitude that lost them election.
I am against Trump and voted for Hillary but do not like many of the demands these protesters made and did not support it.
If I could not support this protest just imagine how pro trump people will feel.
They won't like it and they will vote for Trump again and Trump will win again.
Liberals will have to for example work with people from the one percent as well as people who do not want to share the bathroom with a transgender person
on issues we can all agree with such as economic, environmental and educational.
They will not get everything they want but they will get something.
Liberals haven't learned one thing after losing an election that should have been won easily.
It is admirable to fight for what you think is right.
It is stupid to do so if that fight doesn't help you.
Instead of fighting Trump you should work with him.
If you do not challenge him by demonstrating in the street he will compromise with you if you compromise some in his direction as he knows he can not count on the Tea party to support him in the future.
If after you try to work with him and you have totally no success you should work towards those aims not fight for them as we live in a democracy where you can not dictate to everyone else how things should be.
To me that is what the protest was trying to do and it is this attitude that lost them election.
I am against Trump and voted for Hillary but do not like many of the demands these protesters made and did not support it.
If I could not support this protest just imagine how pro trump people will feel.
They won't like it and they will vote for Trump again and Trump will win again.
Liberals will have to for example work with people from the one percent as well as people who do not want to share the bathroom with a transgender person
on issues we can all agree with such as economic, environmental and educational.
They will not get everything they want but they will get something.
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I couldn't disagree with you more, and I implore you to take off your rose-colored glasses and look at the record of the people you're talking about, both Trump and the Congressional leadership. Trump's record has shown, over and over again, that he doesn't believe in compromise or honor agreements. Just ask his former employees and contractors, who worked in good faith for him and then found he refused to pay their invoices and smothered them with lawyers - many went bankrupt doing good, honest work on his casinos and hotels.
The current GOP leadership has a similar record - just look at how they acted when the ACA was being hashed out (remember those screamers planted at the Congressional town halls in August 2010?) and how they treated the best compromise candidate for the Supreme Court seat. Garland was lauded by conservatives as well as liberals, and they still folded their arms and turned their noses up at him, simply because he was put forward by the other side of the aisle. These are not people who compromise and work with you.
The current GOP leadership has a similar record - just look at how they acted when the ACA was being hashed out (remember those screamers planted at the Congressional town halls in August 2010?) and how they treated the best compromise candidate for the Supreme Court seat. Garland was lauded by conservatives as well as liberals, and they still folded their arms and turned their noses up at him, simply because he was put forward by the other side of the aisle. These are not people who compromise and work with you.
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This is not the time to confront Trump.
He is at his strongest point and the liberals are at their weakest.
I believe with time Trump will do something stupid which will
make him unpopular and reduce his strengths making it easier to confront him.
Do you realize compromise is the best the Democrats can hope for at the present time.
They lost both houses and the Presidency,
Without compromise all they will see is failure.
They therefore have to try to work with each other.
He is at his strongest point and the liberals are at their weakest.
I believe with time Trump will do something stupid which will
make him unpopular and reduce his strengths making it easier to confront him.
Do you realize compromise is the best the Democrats can hope for at the present time.
They lost both houses and the Presidency,
Without compromise all they will see is failure.
They therefore have to try to work with each other.
On behalf of accuracy. though the Marches were labeled Women's, in Oakland at least, at least 1/3 of the marchers were men. We all felt the common bond of disavowing Trump and his hateful, destructive, divisive policies. And we marched not in vengefullness, not in recorousness, but in heartfelt solidarity. The issues were not those of women alone, but reflected the repudiation of everything we've had to swallow all these months. In future, in order to sustain the impact of our 58%, it would be advisable to refer to the 58% and embrace the totality. And that goes for you, NY Times, and all other media.
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if they don't work to get candidates for office and for posts in legilatures who go beyond the Democratic Party's same old same old. then this march will end like the others. clinton, biden, and - from what i have read and seen in news - shumer - need to beling to the past. we need people who are going to deal with the growing problems for all working and middle class people. watching democrats block traffic in l.a. to go to high style fundraisers does not help get them elected. we need people like Bernie who really pay attention to those who aren't going to write the big checks. and we need a party that's going to care whether candidates for senate and representative are going to reflect some common party line.
or we need to go thru one of those messy periods in u.s. history where a new party replaces one of the old.....
or we need to go thru one of those messy periods in u.s. history where a new party replaces one of the old.....
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Re the focus on Madonna: This seems to be a Trump administration deflection. I can tell you that there was nothing incendiary said or done at the sister march of approximately 2,000 I attended with my girlfriend in Pt. Jefferson, NY. In fact, there were no speakers at all, but rather a spirited crowd coming together because of genuine concern about where things are headed in the country. And the majority of people felt like some of these issues, like climate change, are too important and sitting it out is no longer an option. In Pt. Jeff at least, these were people from young to old, many with children, who looked and behaved like your neighbors. And I don’t think they would agree Madonna – or any other “star” --represented them or was needed to inspire their participation.
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I participated the march. It was my first protest match in my life. Keep the pressure! Do whatever you can do. Marching, organizing locally. Confront each lie he uttered, although it would keep us way too busy. Most importantly, vote on every level.
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I seem to recall a slew of protests in recent years, from Occupy Wall Street to even violent riots protesting globalization and the over-reliance on economic liberalism. They came and they went, the rich got richer, the poor got poorer and government continued to operate.
I'm very much afraid that the protesters, good though their intentions may be, will find it hard to maintain focus. Indeed, by giving even a little to a couple of the sub-groups that gelled into millions, the Trump machine, a.k.a the Federal Government or those people for whom loyalty means carrying out the orders issued by duly constituted authority, would cause the first cracks to appear. Divide and rule is such an easy tactic to apply. And let's not forget that Trump does have his supporters as well, perhaps not as well-educated or as well-spoken as the Coast inhabiting elites, but just as adamant (and probably better armed).
Even the media will find it hard to remain critical. Driven, they as well, by the need to generate revenue, to attract readers and viewers, it will be a challenge to keep up the pressure. People, even the ones who this time braved the elements, wary. They need to be entertained, they demand it. So, I'm not at all sanguine about the chances of a protest movement coalescing and building momentum.
It's going to be interesting, and maybe even very bad...
I'm very much afraid that the protesters, good though their intentions may be, will find it hard to maintain focus. Indeed, by giving even a little to a couple of the sub-groups that gelled into millions, the Trump machine, a.k.a the Federal Government or those people for whom loyalty means carrying out the orders issued by duly constituted authority, would cause the first cracks to appear. Divide and rule is such an easy tactic to apply. And let's not forget that Trump does have his supporters as well, perhaps not as well-educated or as well-spoken as the Coast inhabiting elites, but just as adamant (and probably better armed).
Even the media will find it hard to remain critical. Driven, they as well, by the need to generate revenue, to attract readers and viewers, it will be a challenge to keep up the pressure. People, even the ones who this time braved the elements, wary. They need to be entertained, they demand it. So, I'm not at all sanguine about the chances of a protest movement coalescing and building momentum.
It's going to be interesting, and maybe even very bad...
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Why did 53% percent of white women vote for Trump on election day?? The march didn't answer that question.
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The real question is, why are we only focused on the 53% of white women who voted, and not that overwhelmingly, women of color voted for Hillary? Or that 47% of white women didn't vote for Trump? It bothers me that the discussion is still about the issues and opinions of white women. I'm glad that what I saw on Saturday was a more inclusive march for all women, regardless of their race, ethnicity, religion, or orientation. I'm just sad that this question about white women is still what people are focusing on.
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The vocal minority needs to bang the loudest. They are still the minority. This is still a democracy.
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Many are hard right evangelicals who put their trust in a guy who sexually assaulted women and settled a fraud case for millions and who became "pro-life" for about 5 minutes.
Figure that out any way you can.
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The next step is for grass roots people to work the democratic system by changing, eliminating, adding laws necessary to their causes at the local, state and federal level instead of lobbying for others to do it for them. Get the corruption out of voting, vote, elect sympathetic voices to make news laws. It is obvious that the power to make laws is in the hands of people who are unresponsive to the needs of human decency, there fore, we must change who we elect and how we elect. Start locally, gain power, then state, then federal.
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If all of these people voted and for HRC, we wouldn't be in this pickle. In 2 years will all of them vote the GOP congress out? How about in 4 years vote out Russia's agent Orange? If these aren't both done, this march of resistance was for NOT! Just a friendly get together for the girls!
Whoops! Another op-ed accidentally posted on the news pages. Must've been another fumble by that dang editor who always hits "reply all."
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Hey everyone, can we call ourselves The Coffee Party?
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Work on practical stuff:
1) help all of those who are prevented from voting because they do not have the required ID ( and you know those rules are still going to be in place) get the ID. Do it now, not close to the time of the mid terms.If there was a way to do it, I would personally help one person get his or her ID. Bus fare? money for pictures?..Sort of a sponsorship program.
1) help all of those who are prevented from voting because they do not have the required ID ( and you know those rules are still going to be in place) get the ID. Do it now, not close to the time of the mid terms.If there was a way to do it, I would personally help one person get his or her ID. Bus fare? money for pictures?..Sort of a sponsorship program.
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What's next? Next is to identify the leaders who we can support and who can take the reins of our movement.
Here are some suggestions in no particular order:
1) Elizabeth Warren
2) Corey Booker
3) Bernie Sanders
4) Michelle Obama
5) Oprah Winfrey
6) Tim Kaine
7) Joe Biden
8) Susan Rice
9) Jon Stewart
10) Paul Krugman
11) Valerie Jarrett
Here are some suggestions in no particular order:
1) Elizabeth Warren
2) Corey Booker
3) Bernie Sanders
4) Michelle Obama
5) Oprah Winfrey
6) Tim Kaine
7) Joe Biden
8) Susan Rice
9) Jon Stewart
10) Paul Krugman
11) Valerie Jarrett
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Is this a list of potential candidates in the next election? Bernie Sanders ran in the primaries and lost by a pretty big margin. Are you joking about Oprah? If Hillary Clinton can't win, Oprah certainly can't. Jon Stewart is a comedian, and has repeatedly said so. And I'm irritated by the "Michelle Obama should be president" camp. They're essentially saying that a woman doesn't have a chance of even securing a presidential nomination unless her husband has been there first.
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Good list. I love Zephyr Teachout.
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I saw our future leaders in DC at the march on stage...the future is black and female.
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Why not wait until Trump actually does something objectionable and protest that. These premature marches demonstrate only opposition to the person of Trump as President, not to specific enacted policies. It shows that the protests are more about who does and who does not hold the position of power that about what that position holder does. Later on, when the time to voice a principled objection to an act of government, those protests will lose some of their legitimacy because they will seen to be about Trump himself, whatever he may do, just as some Republicans reflexively opposed whatever Obama did.
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Really? His trashing of the Khan family, the attacks on women, both physical and verbal, the alignment with Russia, the refusal to hand over tax returns, the "lock her up" chants about an opponent, the insults to the CIA and other intelligence organizations, the disparagement of our military, the unethical business deals and on and on and on aren't enough for you? You find Saturday's march to be premature?
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Do you remember all of the protests when it was revealed that Bill Clinton was accused of sexual assault on multiple women? I don't either!
Get a grip protesters.
Get a grip protesters.
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Are you kidding? Trump said so many horrific and threatening things during his campaign that he has refused to take responsibility for (mexican rapists, pussy-grabbing, muslim bans, calls to assassinate the first woman presidential candidate, to name a few). There is plenty to object to.
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“Women in America are not going back.”
Darn. Right. Not. Nope. Never.
Darn. Right. Not. Nope. Never.
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Per www.azcentral.com; At least 20000 people showed up in support march in Phoenix Az alone, and it was raining. Arizona organizers were hoping for a quarter of this amount. People on outer edges of crowd could not hear speaker system as size of crowd was so much larger than was anticipated. Same article has initial estimates that at least 36000 showed up to support march in various Arizona cities, and that number is based on at least 15000 marching in Tucson. I now wish my wife and I would have made the effort to attend somewhere, (but we did watch it all day). We will be there next time. My wife wishes that she had known that people were knitting pussy hats, cause she would have knitted and donated hats. She is now knitting pussy hats. I suggested she might knit some olive drab pussy hats. It's the proper color for people going into battle.
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Did you notice? Shortly after the protest McCain ,Graham, and Rubio were on board the Trump train. That's what we achieved. The gerrymandered districts allows congress and Ryan to weather this out, if not laugh.
Furthermore, Trump's victory will permit Putin to dump Assad and still preserve Russia's interests. 'Peace in Syria' they'll proclaim , and credit it all to the vision of our great leader.
Better to swarm the Trump DC hotel 24/7, as well as any other Trump property. Money is what these folks understand.
Furthermore, Trump's victory will permit Putin to dump Assad and still preserve Russia's interests. 'Peace in Syria' they'll proclaim , and credit it all to the vision of our great leader.
Better to swarm the Trump DC hotel 24/7, as well as any other Trump property. Money is what these folks understand.
The follow-up that is needed is to call our senators and keep calling. Don't email. E-mails can be deleted and/or ignored. There are toll free numbers but they change frequently so call the main number for Congress.
We've got to keep the pressure on but this also should include lauding our Senators and Reps when they do something right, like grilling President Cheetoh Face Mussolini's cabinet choices.
We are all in this together! Un pueblo unido jamas sera vencido. A united people will not be defeated.
We've got to keep the pressure on but this also should include lauding our Senators and Reps when they do something right, like grilling President Cheetoh Face Mussolini's cabinet choices.
We are all in this together! Un pueblo unido jamas sera vencido. A united people will not be defeated.
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It's very annoying that the numbers for the march were so vastly under-reported. The official site for the Women's March Sister marches had the total number of marches at 673 and the total number of marchers as 4.8 million.
415 marches were in the United States. Many states had over 20 marches in different cities or towns. There were over 2 million marches in the 7 largest marches. That still leaves over 400 marches. Where is the reporting about this?
I can see why people are frustrated with the insulation of the media. If it doesn't happen in their big city, it doesn't happen. This is news: over 400 marches ALL OVER THE COUNTRY took place to protest Donald Trump, the sexual harrasser & assaulter, and march for women's rights. If you add all of those marches up, the total is probably nearer 4 million than 2 million, yet I can't find any major news outlet doing so. The biggest national protest ever - or at least in recent history - and it's presented as happening in a few big cities with maybe half the actual participants.
415 marches were in the United States. Many states had over 20 marches in different cities or towns. There were over 2 million marches in the 7 largest marches. That still leaves over 400 marches. Where is the reporting about this?
I can see why people are frustrated with the insulation of the media. If it doesn't happen in their big city, it doesn't happen. This is news: over 400 marches ALL OVER THE COUNTRY took place to protest Donald Trump, the sexual harrasser & assaulter, and march for women's rights. If you add all of those marches up, the total is probably nearer 4 million than 2 million, yet I can't find any major news outlet doing so. The biggest national protest ever - or at least in recent history - and it's presented as happening in a few big cities with maybe half the actual participants.
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Easily 4,000,000, now that final tallies are coming in from places like St. Paul, MN, where 100,000 gathered, and 10,000 had been expected, for example.
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A ringing success eh? Calls for burning down the White House, ant-Trump hate, excluding pro-life women? Just make sure a womans right to terminate life is preserved. Who gives a fig about the women in the womb. Oh but all that hate for Trump and Republicans is really love, right? After all, you drive a Subaru. Got it.
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Not true. What part of CHOICE don't you understand?
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Good heavens, Baltimore, what are you talking about? Calls for burning down the White House? Where did you hear that? Millions marched world-wide and not a single arrest. I didn't see or hear anything about excluding people who are anti-abortion. I marched in LA and there were no signups and anyone could come.
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Oh Declining, your alternative facts are showing. Perhaps you are riding a bicycle with no seat or something instead of commandeering a Subaru? Maybe boxers. Take care.
Maybe you want to marginalize the crude disgusting talk of Ashley Judd and Madonna's wanting to blow up the White House. I'm pretty sure that stuff isn't going to resonate with a lot of voters.
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Were those the only parts of the 4,000,000 protesting worldwide yesterday FOX showed you? Ashley and Madonna? Or are those the only things that Trump followers follow along with Dr. Lecher in Chief?
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What's next? If the goal is to make the US a better place for our children then break away from the Hollywood left, NY wall street and east coast elite media. Over 50% of the country believe their children will not be better off then them, the first time that has ever happened. Is Hollywood better off now- yes, are the brokers and traders on wall street better off-yes, are the media elite better off-yes. Is middle America better off-NO. So if you want, like I do to make this country better, then break away from those trying to hijack the movement.
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The goal is to make our country a better place for everyone. Children will not be 'better off' if their parents are not. Perhaps you can give up with the tired old right wing stereotypes. The vast majority of the population lives along the coasts. Stop insulting me. And yes people are concerned that their children will not have more success than they had. Thank union busting and bank deregulation, to name a few.
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Classic NYT reporting. Success of Women's March details the thoughts and reactions of men, namely: Trump, Trump, Brock, Trump, Merkley, Sanders, Trump, Reagan, Trump, Sanders, Schumer, Coffman, Gitlin.
Women named and quoted? Richards, Poo and Clinton.
I don't know why I'm surprised after the non-stop hit pieces on Hillary Clinton following her nomination.
Women named and quoted? Richards, Poo and Clinton.
I don't know why I'm surprised after the non-stop hit pieces on Hillary Clinton following her nomination.
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They even rolled out Yoko Ono, in a wheelchair. What was that about?
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"What was that about?"
Nothing, except Yoko Ono...
Nothing, except Yoko Ono...
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When we do what's next I personally hope you do a better job of reporting it than you did with the massive march here in your own city. You couldn't get some video aerial views of the march? That would have told the true story. Why didn't you get video of it? There were so many people that side streets had to be closed to let the masses of people slowly go to the main march.
There is a video of the Seattle march that shows what 150,000 people looks like. It would have been really good to see what 4-500,000 looked like.
There is a video of a Trump supporter punching a woman in the face and the police let him go and arrested a person who was trying to help her. Yes, they were anarchists and I personally do not like the way they behaved in Washington and I am glad some of the Washington trouble makers were arrested. In this situation they did nothing wrong clearly!! The Trump supporter guy then hit at her again a little later with the police there and the police let him go and blocked the girl who was hit and had blood on her face. And they handcuffed someone else. What about that story?
It clearly doesn't matter. We the people have to create change in our own gentle non newsworthy way. Are you aware of the phone calls to our representatives? That is news.
do a better job of reporting the news accurately and completely.
There is a video of the Seattle march that shows what 150,000 people looks like. It would have been really good to see what 4-500,000 looked like.
There is a video of a Trump supporter punching a woman in the face and the police let him go and arrested a person who was trying to help her. Yes, they were anarchists and I personally do not like the way they behaved in Washington and I am glad some of the Washington trouble makers were arrested. In this situation they did nothing wrong clearly!! The Trump supporter guy then hit at her again a little later with the police there and the police let him go and blocked the girl who was hit and had blood on her face. And they handcuffed someone else. What about that story?
It clearly doesn't matter. We the people have to create change in our own gentle non newsworthy way. Are you aware of the phone calls to our representatives? That is news.
do a better job of reporting the news accurately and completely.
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What Next? How about we storm Trump Tower, drag out the traitor and put him on trial for high treason and grand theft? If 1,000,000 of us surrounded his tower, think the police could stop us? Really?
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Really, ladies, all of you who voted Trump, if you weren't there, you did not see the mothers pushing children with disabilities around, they are afraid of losing their healthcare, you all ok'd the President of the US to make fun of people with disabilities, call women nasty, you ok'd Trump to grab womens parts, you ok'd him calling women pigs, you ok'd him walking into a room where young ladies were getting for a pageant, you are as bad as he is. Thank god I have respect for myself and my daughter. The first day on the job, he's whining about numbers of people showing up to inauguration, he signs a paper to start to take away healthcare for Americans without a plan? I walked for those who may lose their healthcare and for those who need a decent minimum wage in this century. It was an amazing march, peaceful, women came together with compassion for those who are afraid to speak. Btw, don't give me the bull this doesn't matter, you were able to vote because of women just like us..
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Despite the absurd denials by Trump and his mouthpieces, their eyes saw the same sight the rest of us saw on Saturday. Millions of people---not only women--marching across the U.S. and the world to stand up for justice, for the oppressed, for minorities, for democracy. The road ahead may be bumpy for awhile, but we have seen what the power of ordinary people can accomplish. The traditional media didn't see it coming but they acknowledged it was/is a force to be reckoned with. Congress, pay attention. We are watching your every move. Ignore us at your peril.
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I'm sure there are conflicting issues that make this movement too complex to work efficiency. Wouldn't access to birth control to all women ultimately cause environmental harm? Women are using chemicals to stop reproduction that takes some energy to be in the form of birth control pills. If people focused more on exercise throughout their lives, there wouldn't be any diabetes or obesity (some liberals are against fat-shaming). Muslim and some minority culture is more pro-male because of the traditional economy that favored males in the past. Healthcare access to more people in the rural area doesn't just mean to women but to all people, young, old, and male, etc. But providing healthcare where doctors don't voluntarily want to live will be expensive. Many women voted for Trump after all...Despite all he said against women, he seems like a good father to Ivanka. He respects at least some women. So I'm not sure who these marchers are protesting for, besides themselves and their own self interests.
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A battle against a repressive government is always won by a coalition. So people who complain that the marches lacked a "focus" or a "single demand" only betray their ignorance of history and civics. Nazism was opposed by a motley coalition of Communists, Catholics, conservatives, Social Democrats, and simply decent people. And marches ARE powerful. The Berlin Wall fell when millions of people marched, demanding freedom. So the protests against Trump are both fully legitimate - it's called democracy - and potentially decisive in forging a coalition of centrists, Democrats, feminists, scientists and rational people who oppose this reckless and corrupt administration.
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This is not a TV reality show for shock value. If this is to be a movement, it has to include protesting everything that takes away rights and freedoms. It has to be felt by politicians as the will of the majority and it has to be followed by action meant to replace those in power that that want it only their way, and to hell with the rest.
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What next? A continuation of alternate facts". No Trumps audience was not close to Obama's first, fact. Facts are actually fact as they have been since the beginning of time, 1 + 1 continues to be 2 and the earth is not flat. Now we have been in the Trump world of "alternate facts" for over a year, and "alternate facts" remain the same as they have been since the beginning of time, lies. In the new Trump era, facts will no longer matter and truth will only be considered opinion, both will be avoided if convenient. Thank you for the clarification Kellyanne.
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The march gave me new confidence, showed me I was not alone, and showed the world this is not just a pro-life/pro-choice uprising. I am terrified of the move towards isolationism by an oligachy of billionaires. I am writing my congressmen weekly. I am to my first democratic party meeting tomorrow. I am giving one hour a day to reading the latest news from capital hill. We have a lot of work to do and we need to identify our new congressmen/women for 2018. Your damn right I am doing something.
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Trump is in the weakest position of any modern administration. lowest poll numbers going in (already underwater) the womensmarch has them on their heels. attack every nominee now! call every rep.
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
calls work best.
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
calls work best.
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Intentionally deciding to exclude anyone who is not pro-abortion knocks out a good 60% of the female population. Quit trying to pretend that the "feminist" position is pro-choice. It is pro-abortion. Even women who are in agreement with the law that permits abortion on demand are not pro-abortion. Totalitarians of the left have no tolerance.
It is heartbreaking to those of us who pioneered to make choices available to women to have it corruptly distilled to the right to kill unborn children. The feminist movement was taken over by women who sold their souls for the Almighty Dollar, who capitulated to the view held by the worst of men that sex was without consequence, and to blame men for their dissatisfaction. Rather than rejoice in childbearing as the contribution to society only women can make, those who usurped the vision consider “breeders” with disdain and consider men to be Neanderthals who must be controlled.
It is heartbreaking to those of us who pioneered to make choices available to women to have it corruptly distilled to the right to kill unborn children. The feminist movement was taken over by women who sold their souls for the Almighty Dollar, who capitulated to the view held by the worst of men that sex was without consequence, and to blame men for their dissatisfaction. Rather than rejoice in childbearing as the contribution to society only women can make, those who usurped the vision consider “breeders” with disdain and consider men to be Neanderthals who must be controlled.
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I would have to say that literally everything you wrote is false and a complete misrepresentation of the feminist position.
Feminists want women to have control over their reproductive system, most importantly by havjng readily available and effective birth control. The hope is that this will lower the rates of unwanted pregnancies to so low that abortion will become a rare occurance.
Feminists love men, and generally want to have sex with them. Why one would assume that wanting this to have "consequences" is pro-men I cannot imagine, as most men would also like to have sex with women and are more likely to get it if the women can control the possiblity of pregnancy. This, by the way, includes married women.
Where the almighty dollar comes into this I cannot even imagine.
Also your 60% statistic is clearly pulled out of....the air.
Feminists want women to have control over their reproductive system, most importantly by havjng readily available and effective birth control. The hope is that this will lower the rates of unwanted pregnancies to so low that abortion will become a rare occurance.
Feminists love men, and generally want to have sex with them. Why one would assume that wanting this to have "consequences" is pro-men I cannot imagine, as most men would also like to have sex with women and are more likely to get it if the women can control the possiblity of pregnancy. This, by the way, includes married women.
Where the almighty dollar comes into this I cannot even imagine.
Also your 60% statistic is clearly pulled out of....the air.
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Choice is about ... choice. There are plenty of women who choose to have children, and they support women who do not. My issue with anti-abortion/anti-choice is the idea that someone else wants to claim a moral ban on a woman's right to make her own, personal decision. Plus, if it's "no to abortion" now, it'll be "no something-else-or-other" later.
Also, many reproductive health, rights, and justice organizations believe in choice as it should be - they support women who want families as much as they support women who don't. Again, that's choice.
From my own experience, I know many women who would not personally choose abortion but they fight for other women who would. They don't make moral judgments and then complain about the moral judgments of others. Women often bear the consequences of decisions personal, political, and religious and they feel (and I agree) that women should then have all available options to make the personal decisions they need.
Also, many reproductive health, rights, and justice organizations believe in choice as it should be - they support women who want families as much as they support women who don't. Again, that's choice.
From my own experience, I know many women who would not personally choose abortion but they fight for other women who would. They don't make moral judgments and then complain about the moral judgments of others. Women often bear the consequences of decisions personal, political, and religious and they feel (and I agree) that women should then have all available options to make the personal decisions they need.
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An "unborn child" is an oxymoron. Signed: mother of two children.
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I loathe Trump and applaud the demonstrators
But if the end goal is to get rid of Trump the best way to do that is for every single person who marched to donate 10 bucks to a Democratic Party super pac or a talented 2020 contender like Corey Booker or Elisabeth Warren.
But if the end goal is to get rid of Trump the best way to do that is for every single person who marched to donate 10 bucks to a Democratic Party super pac or a talented 2020 contender like Corey Booker or Elisabeth Warren.
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We have to assume that only a small percentage of those who marched will be translating their opposition into actual political participation. But even a small percentage is a LOT of people.
Your idea is a good one, because raising money is always important. But I would also like to see people getting involved in the political process, running for local offices, working for local candidates, calling their congressional representatives about important issues, etc.
Your idea is a good one, because raising money is always important. But I would also like to see people getting involved in the political process, running for local offices, working for local candidates, calling their congressional representatives about important issues, etc.
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You really should research Corey Booker before throwing your support behind him. He's no Obama. HRC had many times more $ than Trump but still lost. I don't think that is the problem. How to you unite so many different groups who marched? Hate for one guy seems to be the only focus. Hate is a dangerous thing as a motivator, all it takes is one wacko to do something violent and ruin it for everyone.
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First you fixated on Ashley Judd and Madonna, and now you're hinting at assassination, "Baba Ganoush" from Colorado. I'd say that raises some red flags as to making your motivations somewhat suspect.
This movement is a constellation of diverse groups fighting for their individual issues but the umbrella that will include all of us and move this forward is resistance to extremist policy's that limit the rights of woman, allows discrimination against Muslims, Blacks, Gays, prevents funding for public schools, disavows climate change, the list goes on. It is not just a woman's movement, or a religious freedom movement but all the things this Republican Government will implement that imperils our democratic values of fairness, equality, and liberty. As to what's next: it's happening now. For example, tomorrow in NYC citizens are meeting at the Schumer & Gilibrand NYC office to protest certain Cabinet nominees and to register our disapproval of the Republican bill HR 7, a bill that would restrict women's reproductive rights. My new saying to friends, "Hope means ACT NOW!
I expect it to have all the lasting impact of the Occupy movement.
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That much? Wow...
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I marched proudly in San Francisco with my family. But we need to mobilize around climate change. I want to take action, but am not sure where to start. Suggestions?
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Good for you, printer! Thank you!
I wouldn't worry too much about the question of how to mobilize around climate change. Mobilization will occur as Naturally as our Unnatural destruction of the earth. Meanwhile, keep WRITING -- everywhere and anywhere -- as you have here.
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
I wouldn't worry too much about the question of how to mobilize around climate change. Mobilization will occur as Naturally as our Unnatural destruction of the earth. Meanwhile, keep WRITING -- everywhere and anywhere -- as you have here.
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
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It's time to educate the rustbelt and the greater public. It will be about teaching others the truth, as it's clear Trump is out to lie, slander, and tyrannize.
More of the same that cost HRC the election: coastal elites who know more than everyone else.
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Educate "the rustbelt and the greater public...." In what respect? And by whom, you? Lol. Here's a tip. I support abortion when it's needed. And having read most of the comments, it has become obvious that many more were needed...
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Protests are great but change takes hard work. Go home or even move if you must, get involved in real politics. You start at local and build. Remember what has happened on the local and state level. Gerrymandering is done on the state level that is what has tied up the House of Representatives in knots, change that. Run for office, help find good people who you would want to represent you and get them to run and support them. Stay involved. It will be a long hard journey but it will be worth it.
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Now it's time to prune some dead wood in the Democratic Party. A realignment along the lines of Sanders' plan would be inclusive, feminist, and draw the kind of inspired youth that drives the kind of movements like the marches. Four years will go quickly: we need to organize now.
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The Democrats were too far left to win this election and your solution is to go further left? Lol
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The vacuous talking points from the GOP - filtered down to their supporters via FB and Twitter - that we are marching because we're "sore losers" or that we didn't can't articulate why we're marching - illuminates the incurious, willfully ignorant intellect of the GOP and Trump supporters.
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High Treason! Is the charge,
Trump is in front of every lie he tells, and the people laugh!
Release the unabridged version of the investigation , We the people deserve ALL of it. What Putin ,Trump and his campaign team did is unconstutional and a violation of the Oath of Office. It makes a mockery of our country's democracy,
Unpresidented election fraud deserves an equally tough response from our Senate, House of Representatives and Supreme Court!
For these are not normal standards for a great Nation!
Don't attempt to Normalize this situation NOW, the terrified eyes of the world are watching. Swift action once the facts are made public.
USA can't have crazy ,corrupt, and incompetent leadership !
Trump is in front of every lie he tells, and the people laugh!
Release the unabridged version of the investigation , We the people deserve ALL of it. What Putin ,Trump and his campaign team did is unconstutional and a violation of the Oath of Office. It makes a mockery of our country's democracy,
Unpresidented election fraud deserves an equally tough response from our Senate, House of Representatives and Supreme Court!
For these are not normal standards for a great Nation!
Don't attempt to Normalize this situation NOW, the terrified eyes of the world are watching. Swift action once the facts are made public.
USA can't have crazy ,corrupt, and incompetent leadership !
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Marching is fantastic but it won't get Trump out of the White House
What if every single person that marched chipped in 10 bucks to fund a 'investigative journalism task force' made up of 50 of the best investigative journalists in the world.
If Trump already has or will do anything impeachable the task force would find out and America could rid itself of this dangerous psychopath
What if every single person that marched chipped in 10 bucks to fund a 'investigative journalism task force' made up of 50 of the best investigative journalists in the world.
If Trump already has or will do anything impeachable the task force would find out and America could rid itself of this dangerous psychopath
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Next.....I will personally boycott any
Trump enterprise....casinos, hotels, stores in trump tower, etc...etc..
Trump enterprise....casinos, hotels, stores in trump tower, etc...etc..
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The women's march will be successful if they place their primary focus on changes being made or desired which directly affect the well being of all children, all workers or all retirees. We cannot afford to allow the financial screws to be turned tighter for workers and retirees just so the oligarchs can increase their income.
By focusing on these common concerns we can move voters to our side and prevent the divide-and-conquer hate merchants from diverting us from protection and improvement of our General Welfare.
The alternative is a wild swing between radical right and radical left while our union disintegrates.
By focusing on these common concerns we can move voters to our side and prevent the divide-and-conquer hate merchants from diverting us from protection and improvement of our General Welfare.
The alternative is a wild swing between radical right and radical left while our union disintegrates.
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Leading up to the November 8 election, 60 million apathetic American adults suffered a nervous breakdown and went on to check the wrong box on their ballots.
To regain their senses, these Unfortunates will require lots of therapy.
Count the Women's Disobedience March on Saturday as the first session toward a hoped-for recovery.
To regain their senses, these Unfortunates will require lots of therapy.
Count the Women's Disobedience March on Saturday as the first session toward a hoped-for recovery.
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There have been protests here in Madison, they - or we who joined - came and went. The Koch-cabal lobbyists watched those protests from their suites overlooking Capital Square, amused, as they knew who was in control and have since proven in spades. "Defiance" isn't close to being a sufficient quality to accomplish enduring political change. "Occupy Wall Street" or "Black Lives Matter" or Pink Hats need a fully-financed fifty-year program, as in Jane Mayer's "Dark Money" account, to inhabit all political offices from POTUS to school board, in addition to the establishment of thematic think-tanks and educational curricula - in order to ever accomplish anything useful and enduring. Just a reminder, as Gloria Steinem and even, rarely, HRC, and many others have for decades been outlining such demands, even as we watch slip away all decency and commonwealth.
Madonna or Michelle might run for president, but who will campaign to champion the same ideals and principles in your own state legislative district?
Who will write, distribute and teach the civics textbook, who will draft the K-street legislative position papers needed to shape the future as the Pink Hat community would have it?
If this requires dedicated effort over the next fifty years, who's on board for the duration?
Madonna or Michelle might run for president, but who will campaign to champion the same ideals and principles in your own state legislative district?
Who will write, distribute and teach the civics textbook, who will draft the K-street legislative position papers needed to shape the future as the Pink Hat community would have it?
If this requires dedicated effort over the next fifty years, who's on board for the duration?
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everyone I know
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I have two things to share.
1. Those that want to make a difference have to participate in government, run for office and support those that are dedicated to fixing the system.
2. Those that fight must stress that it is not our way or the highway, it is that rights are about individual choices and no-one has the right to take away those rights even if they disagree.
1. Those that want to make a difference have to participate in government, run for office and support those that are dedicated to fixing the system.
2. Those that fight must stress that it is not our way or the highway, it is that rights are about individual choices and no-one has the right to take away those rights even if they disagree.
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Another exercise is feel-goodism. "We felt positive about ourselves. We made a statement. It was empowering." And then everybody goes home and nothing changes. I'm not even sure what was supposed to change. The message, such as it was, was so diffused, that this was little more than a gathering to experience a transient feeling of community.
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I will boycott the states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania; I won't spend one cent there. Citizens should refuse to pay their federal taxes until Trump shows his returns. I will continue contributing funds to ACLU so that they can hire more staff to keep Trump accountable. On April 15 we, men and women, should streak naked through the Capital streets, claiming to be clothed. They say, things are what is in the eye of the beholder.
I perceived no specific complaints or recommendations. The anatomical headgear baffled me. Far as I could tell, a lot of female Democrats were angry about losing the election. That I knew already.
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The marches were a success? Really? Donald Trump and Mike Pence's reaction to these marches was their decision to use their first week in power to undermine women's health rights. Trump signed an executive order making it illegal for any overseas health clinic that receives U.S. aid to even talk about abortion. This is just the beginning ladies, Trump's and Pence's hostility to women and their total disdain for helping those in need are just harbingers of the policies they are going to jam down our collective throats.
You should have been marching to the polls in November, now it is too late. This country may never be able to recover from the damage Trump, Pence , Ryan and the rest of the Republicans will do these next 4 years.
You should have been marching to the polls in November, now it is too late. This country may never be able to recover from the damage Trump, Pence , Ryan and the rest of the Republicans will do these next 4 years.
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For a movement to succeed it needs to be pro something not anti something. It needs a singular mission, and it needs a defined action plan. These are all missing from the "womens march". It was anti trump, anti republican, tried to be all things to all people (six pages worth, including many issues not pertaining mainly to women), and no one has a defined follow up plan as there is no visionary leader (i.e. MLK, Steinem, etc). What we had was a million women insulted (understandably) who got together in a gigantic flash mob wearing pink pussycat hats. We need to put labels aside and band together under a single issue and have a plan- that would be powerful. There are a lot of us if we put division aside and put our thinking caps (not pink pussycat caps) on.
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@Kathy Gray, not to worry. The common thread is, as stated in the article, revulsion and contempt for the man who is now president, and implicitly, his ideas. There are many reasons for that revulsion, so the mission going forward is by definition not singular. I can imagine many organizations, take your pick. But get out there and get involved:
Women for the ACA
Women for Reproductive Choice
Women for Equal Pay
Women for Gun Control
Women for the Popular Vote
Women for Pragmatic Immigration Reform
Women for the Elimination of Bigotry
Women for Justice in Law Enforcement
Women for Climate Control
Women for Preservation of the Environment
Women for Trump's Tax Transparency
Women for a Two-State Solution
Women for Racial Equality
Women for Gender Equality
Women for Religious Freedom
Women for Freedom of Information
Women for Truth in Government
Women for Decency in Behavior
Women for International Cooperation
Women for the ACA
Women for Reproductive Choice
Women for Equal Pay
Women for Gun Control
Women for the Popular Vote
Women for Pragmatic Immigration Reform
Women for the Elimination of Bigotry
Women for Justice in Law Enforcement
Women for Climate Control
Women for Preservation of the Environment
Women for Trump's Tax Transparency
Women for a Two-State Solution
Women for Racial Equality
Women for Gender Equality
Women for Religious Freedom
Women for Freedom of Information
Women for Truth in Government
Women for Decency in Behavior
Women for International Cooperation
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"...Democrats were unable to defeat President Trump in 2016 despite an emerging demographic majority."
The misleading narrative of all the post-election analysis is that Trump won the presidency by winning the election, and that mistakes by Democrats during the campaign resulted in their loss.
But it's time to set that misleading narrative straight, and I wish the media talking heads would help. Trump did NOT win the election. Over 73 million votes against Trump are evidence that the voters did not fail in their judgment or their effort to elect a candidate other than Trump. Trump is president by fiat of the cabal of 304 electors who dismissed and overruled the anti-Trump vote.
The popular rejection of Trump at the polls reflected many sources of profound revulsion to the man and to his ideas. So the leaders of the march shouldn't worry that they don't have a single unifying cause. Protesters should organize sub-groups centered around their most important issues, and the leaders should coordinate a coalition of all the sub-groups. I for one will be promoting the National Popular Vote Law, the establishment of the democracy people expect, and the end of the power of the electoral college.
The misleading narrative of all the post-election analysis is that Trump won the presidency by winning the election, and that mistakes by Democrats during the campaign resulted in their loss.
But it's time to set that misleading narrative straight, and I wish the media talking heads would help. Trump did NOT win the election. Over 73 million votes against Trump are evidence that the voters did not fail in their judgment or their effort to elect a candidate other than Trump. Trump is president by fiat of the cabal of 304 electors who dismissed and overruled the anti-Trump vote.
The popular rejection of Trump at the polls reflected many sources of profound revulsion to the man and to his ideas. So the leaders of the march shouldn't worry that they don't have a single unifying cause. Protesters should organize sub-groups centered around their most important issues, and the leaders should coordinate a coalition of all the sub-groups. I for one will be promoting the National Popular Vote Law, the establishment of the democracy people expect, and the end of the power of the electoral college.
As a man, I marched last Saturday. This is not a "feminist" protest, but one spanning all of human rights, dignity, and security. Yes, we need to get focused on the gritty work of building local support, but we also need to come together with a universal message other than hatred of Donald Trump. Feminists can lead the way, but NOT at the exclusion of the rest of Americans.
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Hi all. I've read a number of responses here and I want to say that it's time to deal with the issue of sexism head on. Hillary Clinton was a remarkably qualified candidate, yet the press could only call her flawed. That people were willing, almost eager, to look past all of her accomplishments, abilities and the great plans she had for our country to focus on some minor issues that were fully investigated or vetted - to death - is a function of our society allowing this to happen to women. There is no other reason for the thrall in which so many hold Don the Con, a crook, criminal, liar, cheat, business failure, sexist, racist, ignoramus who won't read a book and who lies about absolutely everything. Talk to people about his massive, dangerous conflicts of interest and they talk about what one grieving mother alleges she believes Hillary said to her, which Hillary and other people were present said wasn't true. It can't be a misunderstanding; Hillary has to be 'a liar', because women are liars. These same people aren't concerned that the orange man lies multiple times a day. One small example. A white man can get away with this stuff in our society. It's time for some real honesty.
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I hope that the organization started to help elect President Obama, OFA, will continue. I also hope President and Mrs. Obama will be involved with it and help direct some of its activities and efforts.
I believe that the highest priority is to start now organizing for 2018, which is a mere 2 years away. We need to turn Congress Democrat, and we have a good opening with Republican plans to strip benefits from struggling Americans. Then of course the White House in 2020.
In the meantime, we have to register people to vote, contact legislators, get petitions, talk to people. In short, all the things we did to help get President Obama elected and, at least for awhile, advance his agenda.
I believe that the highest priority is to start now organizing for 2018, which is a mere 2 years away. We need to turn Congress Democrat, and we have a good opening with Republican plans to strip benefits from struggling Americans. Then of course the White House in 2020.
In the meantime, we have to register people to vote, contact legislators, get petitions, talk to people. In short, all the things we did to help get President Obama elected and, at least for awhile, advance his agenda.
You excluded an important segment of society - pro-life folks. They were not allowed to participate and yet the pro abortion people were out in force. They had a very prominent place in the march. Cecile Richards of Planned Parenthood spoke and there were other celebrities who made it their central focus. One in six pro-life people supported Hillary Clnton in the election. This is a sizable number and it was a mistake to disenfranchise them. They may not give the Democrats their votes in the future. This may actually be a boon for the Republicans.
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Not about Hillary supporters...about women's rights including the right to choose...if you want to ban abortion, you are fighting the majority, and the Women's March is not the venue to promote your cause (besides, at the moment abortion is legal). You have a right to oppose abortion, but it is legal, so your group does not belong in a march where it would be opposing the majority of women there.
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Dear Marchers, you had a chance with Bernie Sanders, but you let Hillary Clinton bully him out of the running. Sanders had real momentum, he was for the people. Why didn't you stand up when the DNC rigged the nomination?! This is what you should be angry about. So it came down to the awful choice of Trump or Hillary. And, now you march and whine about the result?
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There is nothing wrong with Clinton. Stop drinking the kool-aid that the Republicans made.
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"We don't care about your damned emails!!" Ah, Putin slept well that night.
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Charles proving Max's point. Get a clue eyes wide shut.
The article raises a very valid point: To what end are all these mobilizations, demonstrations, and protests? A meaningful goal is precisely what is missing in the progressives' agenda. Resisting Trump and reviving Obama's legacy is not a constructive and meaningful goal. It does not provide an answer to the most important question we all face: Where should we all go from here? If the idea is to return to the past, it is a non-starter because the past has outlived itself and has been rejected. At this point, there are no new ideas visible on the horizon. I do not see them in the pages of this and other progressive newspapers. They all slumber in the old paradigms. It is the paradigm that should change.
It will not resolve the problems we face in this country
It will not resolve the problems we face in this country
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I want to do it weekly! We need to mobilize and get to the midterm elections and start taking this country away for a lunatic dictator and his minions. I just hope the nation makes it next year...
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I'm not sure about your math. More than a million?? I would put it at the very least 2 million and more likely closer to 3 million. When you add up Washington and New York that is easily 1 million there. To say nothing of Chicago, San Francisco/Oakland, and Los Angeles alone at 500,000 and all those cities in between. The marchers deserve more accuracy than such a general number that really didn't reflect the millions of women, men and children who came out rain or shine in support of justice for all!
Ann Lacey
Ann Lacey
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Five steps: (1) Work on gaining full understanding on the true nature of the system; (2) After reaching that understanding work on being able to accurately describe it and share that "language" with the public at large with the intend of educating people; (3) Be fully aware of methods of control used by the .01 percent ruling elite, whether propaganda or induced precariousness, and the spread of ignorance; (4) Join forces with the intention of withdrawing support from systems of oppression; (5) Form parallel (alternative) social structures that operate outside the corporate state framework, rejecting the profit motive and greed, in favor of cooperativism, collaboration, and solidarity. These could be local food networks made up of backyard growers, technology coops that build alternative (non-corporate) social media outlets, setting up worker-owned businesses, and forming local market/economies based on meeting basic needs (housing, food, education, technology, innovation), again, rejecting the profit motive and greed.
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Yes, reject the profit motive and require that all these basic needs be provided by the government for free. And then make somebody pay for it, those other people. I think they call them taxpayers.
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The opposite. People should work on setting up resilient networks fully capable of meeting their basic needs. By forming parallel social (and economic, and tech) structures outside the current "framework," that can be done. In fact, there are communities already working on these ideas, not only here in the US, but internationally.
Regarding government, the challenge is to take it back from predatory corporate interests so it can serve the people.
Regarding government, the challenge is to take it back from predatory corporate interests so it can serve the people.
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I've seen a number of comments on all the comment boards in the past couple of days that make it clear that one of two things is true. Either
1. A certain number of commenters claim to be from parts of the US and are actually foreign nationals, or
2. The schools need to get serious about teaching civics and government.
I saw one comment to the effect that one of the speakers at the Washington march should have been arrested for what she said. If American citizens are starting to believe that government should treat political speech as a crime, we have some serious educating to do.
1. A certain number of commenters claim to be from parts of the US and are actually foreign nationals, or
2. The schools need to get serious about teaching civics and government.
I saw one comment to the effect that one of the speakers at the Washington march should have been arrested for what she said. If American citizens are starting to believe that government should treat political speech as a crime, we have some serious educating to do.
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Calling for violent overthrow of the US government has always been a crime.
U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 115 § 2385. Read that before responding. Not sure how you could reach any other conclusion, and I agree, you have some serious educating to do if people don't understand that.
U.S. Code Title 18 Part I Chapter 115 § 2385. Read that before responding. Not sure how you could reach any other conclusion, and I agree, you have some serious educating to do if people don't understand that.
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Nobody was calling for the violent overthrow of the US government at The Women's March. Donald Trump and his supporters don't seem to understand that we have certain freedoms in this country under the First Amendment which includes the freedom of speech and the freedom to assemble even if people are expressing a point of view which is different from their own.
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I came from GA with my 15 year old. What this administration should be wary of is people like me. As the crowd I was in got denser and denser I jumped up on an eletrical box and summoned a voice I didn't know I had and screamed: "tell me what democracy looks like!" and hundreds of people screamed back over and over: "This is what democracy looks like!" I am still hoarse and the 90% of me that is a confirmed introvert is still in shock I have never ever done anything like that before and if just 1% of the people there had a formative experience like that, we can win.
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On Saturday we marched, on Sunday we rested, today we start calling (202)225-3121 (Congress switchboard) and telling our representatives what issues matter to us (pick a single issue per week). Mark your calendar, set your alarm, and call often. Two minutes every week or every day. We CAN and WILL make a difference. This is what Democracy sounds like!
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Well, the day after the march, I joined the local Indivisible chapter. The organizers (people who have worked on Capitol Hill) wrote a clear action guide (based on what worked for the minority Tea Party) on how to most effectively resist Trumps agenda. Chapters are springing up all over the place. Check it out. I also joined "Swing Left" which is focused on giving aid to the closest swing congressional district so that we can flip the Congress in two years. Get involved! Those are just two of many alternatives - but they seem like the most focused.
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The young people of today need to rise up like we did in the 60's and 70's. It was everywhere in our generation. In our conversations, our Music our attitude. From there it took on movement with all people. The March is over but you can't let go. When elected officials saw the Marches grow and the people marching from all walks of life and age groups they took notice. That's how you get real change.
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As you say, "Past movements rallied around one unifying cause." I have an idea for this time around: Democracy.
Democracy is the antidote to authoritarianism when people care enough to vote.
Democracy is the antidote to authoritarianism when people care enough to vote.
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Out of 3,141 counties in the USA Trump won 3,084, Hillary won 57. Although liberal bastions like California and New York voted for her the Trump win was across the board. The Liberal media and Hollywood are now wetting their pants and stamping their feet because everyone was supposed to get a trophy.
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200 pro-Obama counties in 2012 are now pro-Trump. And of 18 million illegals in the USA, 3 million of the amnestied ones voted for Hillary. Making the Electoral College more needed than ever before.
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Your source?
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Yet Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million votes and factoring in the votes for Stein and others, one could say that Trump was rejected by over 10 million voters.
The real point is that no one will never bring the country together governing from an extreme position as Trump is determined to do.
The real point is that no one will never bring the country together governing from an extreme position as Trump is determined to do.
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We MUST follow up on the Trump- Russia-Putin connection....the NY
Times and the Democrats should make that a priority. Is there a lot more there than what we know so far ???
Times and the Democrats should make that a priority. Is there a lot more there than what we know so far ???
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Don't want to cast aspersions on the whole lot, but as a woman and a mother of three daughters, I couldn't quite grasp what those throngs wanted.
For decades they've had the right to chose, there are more women lawyers than men, more female doctors, more women CEO's, etc. Women have so many choices they don't know what to do. All bad intentions and experiences will never be eliminated from planet earth. It's called reality. But, when some women show vile signs, use vile language, and make vile gestures, and when super wealthy entertainers try to suggest I've never seen the horror they've seen, they lost me. I don't think their mothers ever taught them people get the respect they deserve. I'm not sure what the message was supposed to be conveyed this past weekend, but I missed it. It looked like a bunch of self-centered spoiled women who truly don't know what real suffering is, like what women in other countries actually have to endure. My guess is more than half of those women never even voted, so as far as I'm concerned if you didn't vote, your mouth is moving but your voice is silent to me.
For decades they've had the right to chose, there are more women lawyers than men, more female doctors, more women CEO's, etc. Women have so many choices they don't know what to do. All bad intentions and experiences will never be eliminated from planet earth. It's called reality. But, when some women show vile signs, use vile language, and make vile gestures, and when super wealthy entertainers try to suggest I've never seen the horror they've seen, they lost me. I don't think their mothers ever taught them people get the respect they deserve. I'm not sure what the message was supposed to be conveyed this past weekend, but I missed it. It looked like a bunch of self-centered spoiled women who truly don't know what real suffering is, like what women in other countries actually have to endure. My guess is more than half of those women never even voted, so as far as I'm concerned if you didn't vote, your mouth is moving but your voice is silent to me.
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The millions of men, women and LGBT folks across the world marched for many reasons, primarily to make it clear that we are vehemently against this presidency. We marched against his racism, misogyny, belittlement of others, his incessant lies, his fealty to the wealthy to our detriment, his plan to gut the ACA and let millions die without healthcare, the plan to de-fund PP and overturn Roe v. Wade, his denial of climate change, and plans to overturn environmental and consumer protections. It's very clear if you're actually interested in knowing. But I don't think you do.
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I welcome you to give one of the millions or women/men/children a call and have this talk, you may be surprised to find out why they are marching --- and that they are marching in some cases for the women who really suffer as you say. When you bring together millions there are bound to be people with differing views -- some like you mention -- and others who are fighting for their rights to not be taken away if a Supreme Court justice is put in that will do that as well as deport others and take away rights for LGBT. Also, do you know that they refuse to sign the equal pay act. Perhaps it is you that lives in a bubble -- women are already suffering with defunding of planned parenthood and restriction to reproductive rights in many places in this country. That Is worth coming out on the streets for. Of course we get the respect we deserve. Peace.
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Listen and read more, and assume less. "I couldn't grasp, they lost me, I missed it..." followed by so many negative opinions about how things "seemed" to you.
It wasn't just about women, but about all rights regardless of gender, economic class, race or religion: reproductive rights, a free press, the right of collective bargaining, decent healthcare, equal education and opportunity, safe and livable neighborhoods. The right to workplace protection, a decent wage, Medicare and Medicaid, unemployment insurance, fair taxes, clean air and water, fair housing, voting rights. If you were really paying attention instead of being disgusted, you would know that.
All of these things some of us take for granted. They are all under siege and being challenged by President Trump and his appointments to cabinet positions and his inner circle.
Believe me, 99 percent of them (of voting age) voted in November. Why would you assume otherwise? They're involved.
Pay attention.
It wasn't just about women, but about all rights regardless of gender, economic class, race or religion: reproductive rights, a free press, the right of collective bargaining, decent healthcare, equal education and opportunity, safe and livable neighborhoods. The right to workplace protection, a decent wage, Medicare and Medicaid, unemployment insurance, fair taxes, clean air and water, fair housing, voting rights. If you were really paying attention instead of being disgusted, you would know that.
All of these things some of us take for granted. They are all under siege and being challenged by President Trump and his appointments to cabinet positions and his inner circle.
Believe me, 99 percent of them (of voting age) voted in November. Why would you assume otherwise? They're involved.
Pay attention.
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In order for the Women's March to make impact, all participants need to sign up on a state by state, district by district levels to vote in the upcoming congressional election. We need to be specific about targeting those congresswomen and men to let them know if they vote to repeal ACA, to defund Planned Parenthood, vote for Build the Wall, deport non-criminal undocumented aliens, vote against equal pay, if they vote for Sessions and other with ultra right, bigoted agenda, how many votes they will lose in their district. We need to take the Congress and the Senate back, so that we can Trump honest and comply with ethical standards that are already established but disgustingly disregarded. We need to hold those Republicans that approve cabinet members who will cozy up to Russia. WE ALL NEED TO TAKE ACTION. The march woke us up. Let's not fall asleep again.
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I took a bus from Richmond, Virginia, to the Women's March on Washington. As we neared the capital, there were throngs of similar buses from around the country. We trekked from RFK Stadium with a tidal wave of exuberant marchers.
Despite the enormous crowds and panoply of signs and points of view, everyone was unfailingly patient and polite.
THIS is what democracy could look like.
Despite the enormous crowds and panoply of signs and points of view, everyone was unfailingly patient and polite.
THIS is what democracy could look like.
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Perhaps Susan and Jonathan weren't present at the march in Washington DC. If they were they would have heard the war whoops. They would have heard us saying to one another, "This is the beginning". They would have felt that indefinable sense of joining with something so much larger than one person, the beginning of the movement. Solidarity!
Many of us participated in the Indivisible- Move On- Working Families emergency call last night and committed to acting on behalf of the planet and its people. You won't be able to avoid noticing what's next. Just keep your eyes and ears open.
Many of us participated in the Indivisible- Move On- Working Families emergency call last night and committed to acting on behalf of the planet and its people. You won't be able to avoid noticing what's next. Just keep your eyes and ears open.
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I spent the entire day at the march and covered it for The Times. Thank you.
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From two women in opposite parts of the US came the idea starting this march which grew into a world-wide movement [far more than just a million!]. Many underestimated the #'s marching and the intent of the movement instead choosing to herald its insignificance. You could see the cable networks calling in the bigger names as the numbers grew. Yet "The organizers are trying?" Most assuredly they are planning not just trying. Take a look at all the pieces put in place from around the world in just a few weeks with unpaid staff vs. what we have seen in a white house that had to hire President Obama's people. Underestimating hasn't worked well for the news lately. To argue they are unprepared or unlikely to succeed given the huge problems of movements to engage or as a news organization to be so out of touch to gather as CNN did a half-circle of men with one woman to discuss the marches and immediately question its potential. A critical question isn't "What happens now?" Give them time. The critical questions really are "Who actually did vote for him?" "What about the early reports about missing votes being uncounted?" "What does his election mean to women, human rights?" and "How do we understand this message?" Women plan and all of them planned to come to the marches. "How did the news miss it?"
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It is a huge assumption on your part that the organizers were unpaid. Many of the rank and file paid their own way.
Here is a list of thing to do. One day of marching feels good but will do little by itself.
- find national leaders to galvanize the Democrats and progressives
- Hammer the message that Trump is an illegitimate president chosen by a cabal of political hacks whose opponent won the election by millions of votes
- organize recall elections where they may succeed
- demonstrate in DC, at congressional offices anything Republican
- vote out any politicians who support Trump - there are elections in 2017
- keep marching - eventually Trump will over react
- organize a national strike
- resist all of Trump's disagreeable actions in every way possible
- massive civil disobedience
- publish a list of the Trump collaborators, they will be held accountable
- organize a national month of buying only essentials.
- boycott Trump's companies and all the companies that support him
- states like California that do not want a fascist future should secede
- find national leaders to galvanize the Democrats and progressives
- Hammer the message that Trump is an illegitimate president chosen by a cabal of political hacks whose opponent won the election by millions of votes
- organize recall elections where they may succeed
- demonstrate in DC, at congressional offices anything Republican
- vote out any politicians who support Trump - there are elections in 2017
- keep marching - eventually Trump will over react
- organize a national strike
- resist all of Trump's disagreeable actions in every way possible
- massive civil disobedience
- publish a list of the Trump collaborators, they will be held accountable
- organize a national month of buying only essentials.
- boycott Trump's companies and all the companies that support him
- states like California that do not want a fascist future should secede
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Rather than organizing recall elections, how about encouraging young leaders. There was much laughter at the clown circus of Republicans vying for the Republican nomination, and it's true that the oldest guy won, but where were the young Democrat leaders? Suppressed by the aging Democrat leadership that decided it was Hillary's turn because she had the most money.
The reason Democrats have lost 1000 elective offices at the state level is because they believe the federal behemoth can solve all problems Most problems, particularly social welfare and social change issues are better addressed at the local and state levels and Republicans do a much better job at the local and state level than Democrats. Even at the city level, Democrats expect their problems to be resolved by mo' money from the federal government.
The reason Democrats have lost 1000 elective offices at the state level is because they believe the federal behemoth can solve all problems Most problems, particularly social welfare and social change issues are better addressed at the local and state levels and Republicans do a much better job at the local and state level than Democrats. Even at the city level, Democrats expect their problems to be resolved by mo' money from the federal government.
I have read oh maybe half the comment letters. Same gobblygook heard over and over again. The blame for Trumps victory lays in the hands of the DNC and Hillary Clinton. The Democratic party allowed itself to be dictated to by the Clintons for to many years.
I wonder, over the years ,how many accomplished women were shuffled aside for Hillary Clinton.Look what the DNC did to Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders could have won the rust belt states. Take a long hard look at those who run the Democratic Party then make your plans for the future.
I wonder, over the years ,how many accomplished women were shuffled aside for Hillary Clinton.Look what the DNC did to Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders could have won the rust belt states. Take a long hard look at those who run the Democratic Party then make your plans for the future.
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The blame for the appointment of trump lies with the inequality of the EC that allows the largely unpopulated areas of the country to count more than the people who go to the polls and vote. This is the real cause of the complete loss of democracy that the Republicans have tried out in the already red states and continue to desire to spread over the rest of the country. We will have to keep protesting until we change the party itself and restore democracy.
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"The Womens' March" (I guess that's as good a name as any for the "movement") needs to identify a vision and purpose, and their top 3-5 priorities. What are you going to stop? What are you going to promote? Then, work in the 50 states with the organizers who made the march happen. That's a framework for an organization right there.
In addition to focusing on a range of “women’s issues,” including violence against women, reproductive freedom, etc., it's important to build coalitions with BLM, Occupy, Bernie’s movement, as well as anti-war, economic justice, and environmental groups. We need to see ourselves as THE alternative to the duopoly and Patriarchy. Why? Because there are millions of us and we need commensurate power.
Let's borrow from the best ideas of our predecessors in the 60s and earlier: Teach-Ins! So everyone can become more knowledgeable and effective citizens. Breakfast programs for our kids! No child should go hungry in America. There are lots of great organizers out there. Find them and grow your own leaders. This is Community Organizing 101. Then take over the Democratic Party and rename it, and let’s win in 2020.
In addition to focusing on a range of “women’s issues,” including violence against women, reproductive freedom, etc., it's important to build coalitions with BLM, Occupy, Bernie’s movement, as well as anti-war, economic justice, and environmental groups. We need to see ourselves as THE alternative to the duopoly and Patriarchy. Why? Because there are millions of us and we need commensurate power.
Let's borrow from the best ideas of our predecessors in the 60s and earlier: Teach-Ins! So everyone can become more knowledgeable and effective citizens. Breakfast programs for our kids! No child should go hungry in America. There are lots of great organizers out there. Find them and grow your own leaders. This is Community Organizing 101. Then take over the Democratic Party and rename it, and let’s win in 2020.
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My daughter and I marched in Austin and we had a fantastic time. I encourage everyone who is upset about the election results to join the next march!
A friend of mine suggested marching on April 15 in protest of Mr. Trump refusing to release his tax returns.
A friend of mine suggested marching on April 15 in protest of Mr. Trump refusing to release his tax returns.
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Thank you, Ann, for your exceptional service on Saturday!
P.S.: Great idea about waging an April 15 protest march against Trump for refusing to release his tax returns.
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
P.S.: Great idea about waging an April 15 protest march against Trump for refusing to release his tax returns.
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
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Great idea!!!!!!!
The issue that can and should unite the protesters is economic inequality. It isn't at the top of everyone's list, but it is the root cause of almost every other issue raised against the Trumpster.
Take, for instance, access to abortion. That hardly ever is a problem for women who have a good, reliable income. If there isn't a nearby clinic, you get on a plane to where there is and you can afford to take the necessary time off for the procedure. Almost all the issues revolving around health care really come down to money. Labor issues also come down to money.
So there really is a unifying issue after all. Solve the inequality problem and you can solve all the others.
Take, for instance, access to abortion. That hardly ever is a problem for women who have a good, reliable income. If there isn't a nearby clinic, you get on a plane to where there is and you can afford to take the necessary time off for the procedure. Almost all the issues revolving around health care really come down to money. Labor issues also come down to money.
So there really is a unifying issue after all. Solve the inequality problem and you can solve all the others.
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You are chasing a will-o-the-wisp. 70 years of re-aligning the USA from the "Equality of Opportunity" that made us the richest and freest country in the world to "Equality of Result" has resulted in Trump.
This re-alignment did to the US what it has done to every other country that ever tried it; it has destroyed it. Our Middle Class is devastated. 50 million are on food stamps, double the previous high. The percentage of our working class to have jobs is lower than at any time since the Great Depression. Inflation has taken two-thirds of the value of the US dollar in the past eight years; that's why the price of gold has tripled in that time.
Russia has become a power in the world again, the leading European power in the Middle East with naval and air bases on the Mediterranean. China, with no opposition, has just taken the South China Sea. North Korea has the bomb, and is developing the missiles to carry it to the US. Radical Islam is in the US doing its murderous business.
Its "Equality of Result" and its "politically correct" result are under attack by Trump. You may mourn their going, they are all you have ever known, but going they are. His supporters have finally had enough.
Time to dab your eyes and start getting used to a new reality- a rich, strong, free America again, warts and all.
This re-alignment did to the US what it has done to every other country that ever tried it; it has destroyed it. Our Middle Class is devastated. 50 million are on food stamps, double the previous high. The percentage of our working class to have jobs is lower than at any time since the Great Depression. Inflation has taken two-thirds of the value of the US dollar in the past eight years; that's why the price of gold has tripled in that time.
Russia has become a power in the world again, the leading European power in the Middle East with naval and air bases on the Mediterranean. China, with no opposition, has just taken the South China Sea. North Korea has the bomb, and is developing the missiles to carry it to the US. Radical Islam is in the US doing its murderous business.
Its "Equality of Result" and its "politically correct" result are under attack by Trump. You may mourn their going, they are all you have ever known, but going they are. His supporters have finally had enough.
Time to dab your eyes and start getting used to a new reality- a rich, strong, free America again, warts and all.
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Diogenes -- An eloquent mess you wrote full of fact, exaggeration, fiction, and opinion concerning recent history, economics, military power, and employment. The only thing you got right was intimating the buying power of the middle and working classes.
A rich, strong, free America? Your only postive statement. But we're not returning to the 1950s, when most women didn't work (those who did were routinely sexually harrassed); minorities were 90 percent poor, couldn't vote, and segregated, the rich were taxed at an exorbitant rate, TVs and cars cost more than twice what they do today.
Dream on.
A rich, strong, free America? Your only postive statement. But we're not returning to the 1950s, when most women didn't work (those who did were routinely sexually harrassed); minorities were 90 percent poor, couldn't vote, and segregated, the rich were taxed at an exorbitant rate, TVs and cars cost more than twice what they do today.
Dream on.
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Contact your members of Congress & let them know your position on the issues & nominees. Get involved with local groups & causes to keep the message alive. Stay informed, read/watch reputable news sources - the last time I checked, Facebook hasn't received any Pulitzers. And wear something pink on Tuesdays to remind people of the March. #pinktuesdays
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"After Success of Women’s March, a Question Remains: What’s Next?"
Is this a news article or opinion piece? Ms. Chira and Mr. Martin are telling us the march was a success. Based on what? Crowd size? Is it possible for the NYT's to be even handed in how it covers President Trump and the anti-Trump movement?
Is this a news article or opinion piece? Ms. Chira and Mr. Martin are telling us the march was a success. Based on what? Crowd size? Is it possible for the NYT's to be even handed in how it covers President Trump and the anti-Trump movement?
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What needs to be done next is that the successful organizing that it took to pull off these marches need to be directed towards clubs and groups that will continue to discuss the issues. There will be a lot to talk about over the next four years. These groups should hold regular meetings with the ultimate goal being an increase in voter turnout. They can organize voter registration activities. Turn all this energy towards raising awareness of the issues and fighting back against the horrendous government we will now have. Ultimately all of the efforts of these groups should be the midterms and then the next presidential election.
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Women of the world: Include the First Lady in your movement. Invite her to join you!
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Since I probably can't put the hyperlink here, then let me answer the question "now what" by first suggesting you do a Google Search for "Petition Whitehouse.gov Immediately release Donald Trump's full tax returns, with all information needed to verify emoluments clause compliance." and that you feel free to sign it while you are still free to do that kind of thing in this country.
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The next march should be on Tax Day weekend. April 15th.
Another during LGBT Pride month.
Don't let up the pressure, anywhere in the world.
Another during LGBT Pride month.
Don't let up the pressure, anywhere in the world.
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I have many friends who marched. Democrat women. In their daily lives, they would never engage in a conversation with a republican. It's 'awkward'.
Well, you can march miles and miles, but the republicans who vote Trumps are real, not some aliens. We should talk to them instead of protesting a democratically elected (by them) president. They will vote for him again if they keep listening to him and only to him.
Well, you can march miles and miles, but the republicans who vote Trumps are real, not some aliens. We should talk to them instead of protesting a democratically elected (by them) president. They will vote for him again if they keep listening to him and only to him.
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The reason Democrats do not talk to Trump supporters is that it is easier to demonize them. People with closed minds do not speak to those who disagree with them because it might cause them to question the absolute group think of compatriots.
If Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters were to have a civilized conversation, more of the anti-Trumpers would be converted than vice versa.
Obama leaves office with very high popularity, personally. There was no booing of him at Trump's inauguration. So a lot of Republicans, when asked by a pollster, gave him a favorable personal rating. Republicans are capable of, rationally, separating their personal opinion of an individual, with their opinion of the way that person intends to work toward common goals,
Newsflash: Republicans have grandmothers, family members who are disabled or drug addicted, we have friends and daughters who are struggling raising children alone. We do not want air quality to deteriorate to match that of Beijing.
We do not believe the methods of the progressive Democrats are likely to be effective at improving the situation, but are more likely to make the problems worse. ObamaCare increased wealth inequality by shoveling money to big medicine. Consider the possibility that ObamaCare would have been better had Republicans been allowed any input.
If Trump supporters and anti-Trump protesters were to have a civilized conversation, more of the anti-Trumpers would be converted than vice versa.
Obama leaves office with very high popularity, personally. There was no booing of him at Trump's inauguration. So a lot of Republicans, when asked by a pollster, gave him a favorable personal rating. Republicans are capable of, rationally, separating their personal opinion of an individual, with their opinion of the way that person intends to work toward common goals,
Newsflash: Republicans have grandmothers, family members who are disabled or drug addicted, we have friends and daughters who are struggling raising children alone. We do not want air quality to deteriorate to match that of Beijing.
We do not believe the methods of the progressive Democrats are likely to be effective at improving the situation, but are more likely to make the problems worse. ObamaCare increased wealth inequality by shoveling money to big medicine. Consider the possibility that ObamaCare would have been better had Republicans been allowed any input.
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eb: We all have conservative and liberals in our families.
There was screaming Lock Her Up at the Trump inauguration. Classy.
Newsflash to You: everyone has grandmothers and not everyone is conservative or progressive. Having no healthcare like Trump and the GOP propose with their none-plan is NOT a plan. The GOP wouldn't allow a plan- they blocked it and what we got was what these dopes would compromise.
There was screaming Lock Her Up at the Trump inauguration. Classy.
Newsflash to You: everyone has grandmothers and not everyone is conservative or progressive. Having no healthcare like Trump and the GOP propose with their none-plan is NOT a plan. The GOP wouldn't allow a plan- they blocked it and what we got was what these dopes would compromise.
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Where were these people in November when it was time to vote.
Also, notice how many big marches are from the elite, liberal big cities.
Some things never change.
Marches do nothing except give a temporary, "feel good" moment.
Get organized if you want change!
Also, notice how many big marches are from the elite, liberal big cities.
Some things never change.
Marches do nothing except give a temporary, "feel good" moment.
Get organized if you want change!
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What makes you think we didn't vote?
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Define "elite," please. Trump and his entire Cabinet are elites- they are rich and have no idea what real work feels like. Also, I voted. And every single person I went with or met along the way voted. Trump lost the popular vote.
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I was in DC. My husband marched in St Petersburg, FL - not a big elite liberal city. Tampa-Bay is kind of a purple area but this year was more red. There were 20- 25,000 in this march here. The previous "rally record" was 1500. I think that says a lot. Even in Lubbock, Tx there was a good sized turnout and that is, I believe, considered to be the 2nd most conservative city in the nation.
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April 15th falls on a Saturday this year, and folks are already beginning to organize. Time for the Prez to show the 73% of the voters who want to see them to show us his taxes! Those who don't care can just choose not to look!
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If you said that hundreds of thousands of women were protesting in front of Hillarys house in Chapaqua that would make sense. If you said that the same number were protesting Sharia Law outside the Saudia Arabia embassy then it would make sense. Protesting Trump on womens rights makes no sense. It is like occupy Wall street where no one really knew what they were actually protesting. It was also not women inclusive as it was liberal women only.
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A new Found theater must be instituted. This is multidimensional expression of wants & needs via allegory, metaphor, myth & symbol. A dramatic arts which can insinuate itself into blogs, demonstrations, protests, & marches. At this point the Democratic & Republican Tents are as stable as the tent cities which are inhabited across our great nation. These invisibles must be addressed in imaginative, multidimensional ways along with all the disenfranchised & fringe populations. Participatory theater arts & podcasts need to deal with real issues. Agenda theaters must counter "alternative news" with new forms of alternative, counterculture dramatic arts. we must examine dislocation, disempowerment, the disenfranchised & the desolate in new permutations of drama. The theater arts have been out of touch with "the deplorables" & many factions of our great nation. Transcending elite democracy & elite globalization is just a start to any transcendence
of Spirit. Support Freedom of Speech in an authentic Arts of problem solving, informed spirituality & zeitgeist analysis.
of Spirit. Support Freedom of Speech in an authentic Arts of problem solving, informed spirituality & zeitgeist analysis.
What is next? Organizing at the state, local and federal level to defeat Donald Trump and this radical GOP Congress in 2018.
Some people and I put this platform into the world last week and think it is a nice down-payment on the change we need to see in 2018:
http://itstarts.today?sc=nyt
Some people and I put this platform into the world last week and think it is a nice down-payment on the change we need to see in 2018:
http://itstarts.today?sc=nyt
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This may be the hour of organizing a new political party.
We've got 4 years to get something, anything, together.
The Democrats and Republicans must have some real, serious competition.
We've got 4 years to get something, anything, together.
The Democrats and Republicans must have some real, serious competition.
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Obama's coalition lives on!
At the march in my town, many causes were represented, and a diverse cross-section of religions, races, genders, and ages. Women organized it, but there were about as many men--and children--there as women.
IF the Democrats are smart about this, we can come together and support each other. Democrats are stereotyped (by Republicans) as a grab-bag of mutually exclusive causes and identities, but we are in fact "stronger together" and we are ready to unite and support each other.
At the march in my town, many causes were represented, and a diverse cross-section of religions, races, genders, and ages. Women organized it, but there were about as many men--and children--there as women.
IF the Democrats are smart about this, we can come together and support each other. Democrats are stereotyped (by Republicans) as a grab-bag of mutually exclusive causes and identities, but we are in fact "stronger together" and we are ready to unite and support each other.
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I would also support a credible third party.
I marched with hundreds of thousands of my fellow patriots on Saturday. They are ready and motivated to wrestle our country back from the would-be-king and his corporate royalty.
This new movement will be led by women and will defend and nurture the rights of all Americans because we know when we strengthen our weak, we strengthen our all.
Starting now, we will work to radically change the membership in congress in 2018. Don't worry people. The women are coming.
This new movement will be led by women and will defend and nurture the rights of all Americans because we know when we strengthen our weak, we strengthen our all.
Starting now, we will work to radically change the membership in congress in 2018. Don't worry people. The women are coming.
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As someone who felt the gravitational force to get out and attend a sister WMW on Saturday, a couple of observations:
1) The growing question posed in this article, “what does the march/movement stand for?” or "where does it go from here?" is a negative narrative that was successful in undermining the Occupy movement. The antidote to having the WMW effort being defined as "undefined," or "without concrete goals" will be to identify and coalesce around a couple of clear goals.
2) One goal and a highly productive way to channel this energy is organizing voter registration and turnout drives of minorities, and outreach to the displaced working class by progressives, in blue strongholds. (The working class is not the enemy of progressives and Democrats, they are a natural ally.) And if anything was clear to me on Saturday, there is now a belief that inactivity is not an option, especially among the youth. Many appear ready to spend spring break registering voters over vacationing in Cancún.
3) Having the likes of Madonna speak was counterproductive and unnecessary. This was a grass roots turnout, no need for “star power” for inspiration, especially stars who will unnecessarily draw negative attention. Far more inspiring imho would have been a strict focus on “women of the people” as speakers, i.e., those who have spent their lives/careers working and sacrificing for progressive causes. That will inspire action among the youth as much or more than Madonna.
1) The growing question posed in this article, “what does the march/movement stand for?” or "where does it go from here?" is a negative narrative that was successful in undermining the Occupy movement. The antidote to having the WMW effort being defined as "undefined," or "without concrete goals" will be to identify and coalesce around a couple of clear goals.
2) One goal and a highly productive way to channel this energy is organizing voter registration and turnout drives of minorities, and outreach to the displaced working class by progressives, in blue strongholds. (The working class is not the enemy of progressives and Democrats, they are a natural ally.) And if anything was clear to me on Saturday, there is now a belief that inactivity is not an option, especially among the youth. Many appear ready to spend spring break registering voters over vacationing in Cancún.
3) Having the likes of Madonna speak was counterproductive and unnecessary. This was a grass roots turnout, no need for “star power” for inspiration, especially stars who will unnecessarily draw negative attention. Far more inspiring imho would have been a strict focus on “women of the people” as speakers, i.e., those who have spent their lives/careers working and sacrificing for progressive causes. That will inspire action among the youth as much or more than Madonna.
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NB: In my original comment I meant to say "...in red strongholds."
I marched along with the 100,000 in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Along with the expressions of inclusivity, outrage and humor, the prime mood of the day was of determination.
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So glad a movement is in the making and thanks for the good advice on how to proceed. We immediately need (1) articulate charismatic leaders/spokespersons, (2) talented organizers with info on how to organize state events and national events, (3) media experts to disburse info and action requests, and (4) a concise, inclusive agenda. Our spokesperson should know how to inform and move people without alienating and offending. I am excited about pro bono work in NYC law firms and efforts in California by our very bright young (and older) people exploring alternative ways to challenge bad legislative decisions. The publication of a clear concise agenda will allow us all to be clear. Here, a multi-faith based group developed a "Kansas People's Agenda" that is excellent. They gave it to attendees at an earlier rally in a brochure with spaces to write in the names of our reps and our signature. I e-mailed the agenda to friends and suggested cutting and pasting paragraphs for sending to reps. Each state could have an organization to learn and notify members in the state as to what agenda items are up for consideration in that State's legislature. Individuals could then timely notify our reps as to how we want them to vote with very little time and effort. I like Bernie's agenda on the "Our Revolution" page; however, being in Kansas I would add that I am against campus carry. WE must be indivisible and include all the human concerns that attracted people to the marches.
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For many of us the next thing after the March was football! Like the massive Tea Party rallies of years ago, these things are quickly forgotten. I am surprised at how little coverage there is today even in the liberal press. By midweek it will be a distant memory. Trump stepped all over whatever message the March was supposed to send by simply insulting the Media a little- as is his wont- and they went into the predicted total meltdown and the entire news cycle was diverted to outrage over what Trump said about them with the March as a second thought. It was a brilliant move to knock the March off the front pages. People who think controlling the news agenda like this is not a deliberate Trump strategy don't get it. He manipulates the MSM well and plays them like a fiddle. They take the bait every time.
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You're spot on, Tim. They don't get it. Trump is reducing the MSM to back stage irrelevance.
It should be clear by now to even the most rabid Trump hater that he, like FDR, understands that his success, and that of his administration, depends upon his ability to bypass the almost universally hostile press and electronic news sources and take his case directly to the people. He has demonstrated an ability to do just that. FDR used the radio and his “fireside chats” to lessen the impact of the barrage of partisan editorials and reportage; Trump has used Twitter to his this end, as well as television interviews, and will no doubt incorporate other electronic means to achieve his goals. Obviously, he is not a polished orator. But the country – and the free world – needs a leader. And our former president, Mr. Obama? Nice man, great speaker, but a leader? Not too much there. But as a divider? Ne plus ultra, none better. Even the fawning media cannot hide that truth.
Most people prefer results to words. Remember Harry Truman? So the political pundits can rant and rave, and the former POTUS can say what he will, but it will mean little to anyone outside the left’s echo chamber. And the country will move forward, leaving the media, the Hollywood role players, and the left in general to wonder how it all happened…
It should be clear by now to even the most rabid Trump hater that he, like FDR, understands that his success, and that of his administration, depends upon his ability to bypass the almost universally hostile press and electronic news sources and take his case directly to the people. He has demonstrated an ability to do just that. FDR used the radio and his “fireside chats” to lessen the impact of the barrage of partisan editorials and reportage; Trump has used Twitter to his this end, as well as television interviews, and will no doubt incorporate other electronic means to achieve his goals. Obviously, he is not a polished orator. But the country – and the free world – needs a leader. And our former president, Mr. Obama? Nice man, great speaker, but a leader? Not too much there. But as a divider? Ne plus ultra, none better. Even the fawning media cannot hide that truth.
Most people prefer results to words. Remember Harry Truman? So the political pundits can rant and rave, and the former POTUS can say what he will, but it will mean little to anyone outside the left’s echo chamber. And the country will move forward, leaving the media, the Hollywood role players, and the left in general to wonder how it all happened…
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Who's "us" it doesn't sound very much like, "WE." Trump's attempt to challenge the fact that it was raining on his speech didn't throw shade on anything except his sanity. That's why his handlers had him throwing his tweets into full reverse by midday Sunday.
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Where was all this enthusiasm on election day? If even half this energy had been directed towards electing Hilliary we wouldn't be here today.
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Greg, this is the narrative Conway and the Trump administration were peddling on yesterday's morning news shows. But as Bernie Sanders observed, it is a false narrative: The people who marched undoubtedly were among those who turned out and cast votes in November.
As to the lack of "enthusiasm" for Clinton, there are many reasons, from the Russia/Wiki/Comey/Republican strategy to undermine her campaign by focusing on the DNC e-mail leak, to her being an uninspiring candidate.
But most important, we are where we are, so we go forward from here. It's not productive to argue about why Clinton wasn't elected at this point, which just draws energy away from the task at hand.
As to the lack of "enthusiasm" for Clinton, there are many reasons, from the Russia/Wiki/Comey/Republican strategy to undermine her campaign by focusing on the DNC e-mail leak, to her being an uninspiring candidate.
But most important, we are where we are, so we go forward from here. It's not productive to argue about why Clinton wasn't elected at this point, which just draws energy away from the task at hand.
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Alas the smug opinionators like CNN and the Times didn't help. When they should have been taking down Comey and the Russians they were busy selling tickets and publishing alt.facts as click bait.
Everyone should read Dark Money by Jane Mayer to find out what we are really up against: the Koch brothers stocking local governments with far right puppets. Really enlightening and scary.
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The Kochs have positioned their men Pence, Pompeo, and Tillerson into position, and now await the opportunity to plunge the sword to its hilt into Trump. So your point is well taken. But Pence/Tillerson will help drag the swamp down the toilet after Trump is jailed.
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"After Success of Women’s March, a Question Remains: What’s Next?"
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If the march was such a success, why does no one know what happens next?
Sounds like another solution in search of a problem. Great for fund-raising, of course, by Planned Parenthood's hysterics.
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If the march was such a success, why does no one know what happens next?
Sounds like another solution in search of a problem. Great for fund-raising, of course, by Planned Parenthood's hysterics.
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I read plenty of intelligent suggestions below that make your snark the trollish sour grapes of Trumpian wrath. P.S. You can lie about it raining, but people can still feel those raindrops falling on their head, just as did your Mr. Trump in the Spritz Carlton, Moscow.
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Stay tuned...
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Climate change! This is the #1 threat, not just to women, not just to humans, but to all life on earth. No victories on other issues will survive a dying planet. There isn't 4 years to spare, and there is no "planet B." We must fight for Mother Earth, for our own sake, for our children, for all the living species that have no vote, voice or representation. We must demand climate change action, sustainable energy sources, global reproductive freedoms. Females bring life into the world, it is up to us to defend it.
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We do need to pick our battles. Other issues will be addressed once the Democratic party has the actual power it should have based on demographics. As the article points out, several less sexy issues are vital. Shameless gerrymandering and vote suppression by Republicans delivered this"victory". And the electoral college, the result at the beginning of our history of a corrupt deal with slaveholders to bring them into the Union, must be modified or we will have again and again the will of majority defeated. Money and energy must go into curing these structural problems that delivered the victory to the Republicans against the will of the majority. Then we will be in a position to tackle the real problems of ordinary people without being outsiders with little real power to affect events.
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Totally and most emphatically agree reforming the undemocratic Electoral College system is of paramount necessity. Every vote should count equally whether cast in California or the Carolinas. The repulsive Republican gerrymander machine must also be disabled.
Tom McMahon
Tom McMahon
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Inclusion means including the disenfranchised working class - the base that Bernie Sanders mobilized for the Democratic party that Trump stole with his false claims. These workers and their families do not identify as Feminists. The white, privileged leadership of the Democratic Party needs to get over itself - its notion of inclusion is only a partial perspective offered from a white educated position. It's the ISSUES that should be the focus of discussion, not more identity politics. Learn from Sanders and embrace him and the working class disenfranchised by climate change,
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I know Trump is orange, but he identifies as white. And He has often bragged about being rich, so all the "disenfranchised working class" have done in bringing him to power is to vote against their own interests. This entire Cabinet is stuffed with lily-white billionaires who have never worked a day in their lily-white lives. I love Sanders but I think you would find that he disagrees with your assessments. And, if you cared to educate yourself, these marches took place all over the world in a show of unity against a crazed dictator who is out to destroy democracy and possibly the world. There were men, women and children who took to the streets and they are all true patriots. What did you do on Saturday??
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Did Trump grow even more revolting to these people between November 5th and November 6th, or between November 6th and this past Saturday? No? Then what did this march accomplish?
Did these people abstain from voting in the election? No? Then why march?
This was march was just more sour grapes over Trump's victory, and like all progressive acts of virtue signaling, it's more about emoting and signaling than actually getting anything done. I'd say they accomplished what they set out to, and that there never was or has been any plans for follow-up.
Did these people abstain from voting in the election? No? Then why march?
This was march was just more sour grapes over Trump's victory, and like all progressive acts of virtue signaling, it's more about emoting and signaling than actually getting anything done. I'd say they accomplished what they set out to, and that there never was or has been any plans for follow-up.
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Dream On - the Trump Trolls are outed as Russian Trolls the world over. They fooled us into Brexit here, and they are trying for war in the Mid East to drive up their oil prices. It's that simple, though out of the range of the apparently simple-minded.
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"This was march was just more sour grapes over Trump's victory ...'
Um, no, Ben, it's not. We're concerned about having a crass, erratic, and unprepared person as our president. I mean, this isn't John McCain or Mitt Romney we're talking about. I think you realize that.
Um, no, Ben, it's not. We're concerned about having a crass, erratic, and unprepared person as our president. I mean, this isn't John McCain or Mitt Romney we're talking about. I think you realize that.
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Not sour grapes. More like genuine fear that our democracy is about to be systematically destroyed by a deranged dictator with ties to Russia.
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Democrats want freedom from oppression
Republicans want freedom to make money using oppression, the oppression of their wealth to dominate and monopolize opportunities, to manipulate financial markets, and they want OUR government to give them the freedom to financially oppress 98% of us, and then they control government with their money.
next up... Trumps taxes?
... SANCTIONS? ACA?
Next up is ALL OF IT.
Republicans want freedom to make money using oppression, the oppression of their wealth to dominate and monopolize opportunities, to manipulate financial markets, and they want OUR government to give them the freedom to financially oppress 98% of us, and then they control government with their money.
next up... Trumps taxes?
... SANCTIONS? ACA?
Next up is ALL OF IT.
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I have no idea what you would quantify as a "ringing success", other than it seems like if you ask people to come out and vent without purpose and earn some social media cred they will do it in large numbers. I still have no idea what they're protesting about.
This is a democratic society, and it seems if one side is unhappy with the way the majority votes then they lash out with anger,bullying, violence, rioting and threats. Ironically, these people see themselves as "the good guys". The "villains" seem to take defeats for the most part with calm and resolve, respecting the rights of our voting nation.
This is a democratic society, and it seems if one side is unhappy with the way the majority votes then they lash out with anger,bullying, violence, rioting and threats. Ironically, these people see themselves as "the good guys". The "villains" seem to take defeats for the most part with calm and resolve, respecting the rights of our voting nation.
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Clinton: 65,844,610
Trump: 62,979,636
Your point again was?
Trump: 62,979,636
Your point again was?
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The last 8 years were an example of "calm and resolve" by the conservatives? Seriously? Death Panels, Birthers, Tea Party disruptions of meetings; yelling "You lie" during the State of the Union speech are NOT examples of "calm". And, I certainly didn't see any signs of "respecting the rights of our voting nation" when the right wing stymied any policy they could simply because it came from Obama. And let's not forget the "respect" shown by Republicans when they invited the head of a foreign country to address Congress without informing the White House!
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"Hillary Clinton" - 14 letters
"Donald Trump" - 11 letters
She wins!
I am not pro-Trump, but the endless repetition of these essentially meaningless popular vote numbers is getting you nowhere.
"Donald Trump" - 11 letters
She wins!
I am not pro-Trump, but the endless repetition of these essentially meaningless popular vote numbers is getting you nowhere.
Of course there a lot of angry women out there. For a couple of months, these can be mobilized for these dramatic displays, and feel good about themselves in that they are united in hating on Trump, and hating on those who elected Trump, and fancying that incessant rhetoric and the feigned profession of unity will actually lead to anything of substance. It is an emotional and behavioral mass addiction. Signs of emotional exhaustion are already cropping up though. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross identified five defined stages of mourning. These women are still in the initial stages - denial, anger, and bargaining. Marches and professions of solidarity and defiance like this may keep them in these earlier stages for several more months. At the end of such time, they won't have much to show for it, except bitterness and alienation from their families, if they have such. Sad, but it is a life lesson they have brought on themselves.
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"they wont have much to show for it, except bitterness and alienation from their families"
Lol. You have to be kidding. It was a show of optimism and faith in America and sorry to pop your alternate fact but their families were THERE with them. Lots of men at "the life lesson" you speak of. I hope you enjoyed the inauguration. It was Trump's first and last day of peace. He seemed bitter wouldn't you agree.
Lol. You have to be kidding. It was a show of optimism and faith in America and sorry to pop your alternate fact but their families were THERE with them. Lots of men at "the life lesson" you speak of. I hope you enjoyed the inauguration. It was Trump's first and last day of peace. He seemed bitter wouldn't you agree.
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KellyAnne is showing sign of emotional exhaustion.
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Heck yes I saw the Inauguration. Trump certainly did not seem bitter, in fact he looks disturbingly elated. Thing about him is, he doesn't give a hoot about angry women or what they think or say about him. He's got a ton of beautiful, competent women around him, he is an Alpha male such as most of you are completely unacquainted with, and he don't care. "A show of optimism and faith in America"? All the filthy signs and filthy talk? Nope, it was a gigantic version of the Oprah or the Generes show, and an angry self-celebration - as usual. The life lesson is hardly apparent now; that's something you can talk about in maybe six months, but will require some insight.
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A ringing success? What was accomplished?
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Well the Denver march was going to be 40K.
100K+ showed up.
The whole globe participated. It was of a level of the Viet Nam protests.
"Something is happening" is going on and it is big. This is going to make the Trump Surprise look like a tweet on the map. Seriously.
100K+ showed up.
The whole globe participated. It was of a level of the Viet Nam protests.
"Something is happening" is going on and it is big. This is going to make the Trump Surprise look like a tweet on the map. Seriously.
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Much was accomplished, staying with the clear manifestation of resistance to what seems to be in the wings--cutting off Planned Parenthood, retrogressive Supreme Court nominees, privatizing Social Security, ramping up fossil fuels, ending birthright citizenship, etc. What we saw was the most powerful demonstration in decades - of people taking direct action to find a voice and establish a culture of resistance. Yes, the key question is where it goes from here. The left has never been good at building consensus, and effective organization. I'm a guy --and a veteran of the peace movement including the big May Day non-violent civil disobedience demonstrations in 1971 where 12,624 people were arrested (the largest mass arrest in U.S. history). But the peace movement marginalized women in it leadership. How cool it is to see women now in the lead.
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A show of force. Of numbers. If Trump and his billionaire dominionists are smart they will heed the call of the majority of Americans who did not vote for them. If they choose to abuse their power will will stand tall against all of it. And we WILL build back all that they tear down.
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We can't let ourselves be split into factions over individual causes. Period. That's why Indivisible was founded. Find an Indivisible group near you. They are working with MoveOn (the remnants of Occupy), the Working Families Party, and other groups to coordinate an enduring effort. "We must hang together, or we shall all hang separately," remember that!
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I say keep on being involved and active.
The goal of Trumpian politics is logically clear: immoderate politics disenfranchises people in the middle of the political spectrum; disenfranchised people participate less in politics; less participation by ones in the middle results in polarization; politics then shifts to the ends, with politicians catering to the extremes; hence more immoderate politics, and the vicious cycle goes on.
Who benefits from this vicious cycle? The few in control of wealth and institutions. They can do as they please without a moderate electorate.
The only way to break out of this cycle? Participation, even in the face of frustration or anger.
The goal of Trumpian politics is logically clear: immoderate politics disenfranchises people in the middle of the political spectrum; disenfranchised people participate less in politics; less participation by ones in the middle results in polarization; politics then shifts to the ends, with politicians catering to the extremes; hence more immoderate politics, and the vicious cycle goes on.
Who benefits from this vicious cycle? The few in control of wealth and institutions. They can do as they please without a moderate electorate.
The only way to break out of this cycle? Participation, even in the face of frustration or anger.
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Tell me:
What was this march really about?
What was this march really about?
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Civil rights, in the face of a regime of christian extremists.
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It was about holding elected officials accountable to their constituents.
It is no longer about demographic categories. The highjacking of individual rights by a loud minority of policy makers - specifically their assertions that a majority of Americans oppose access to abortion, birth control, and basic health care- is demonstrably incorrect. The Affordable Care Act needs fine tuning, not repeal. The Women's March brought us to the streets; our energy is now channeled into local efforts. It's not about political party affiliation. It's about holding elected officials at all levels accountable for their actions. We are doing this - today and for years to come. These issues do not belong to a specific demographic. Every issue is an American issue.
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I was at the DC March - so many great signs- my favorite: WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS!!
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My favorite was "My Ikea cabinet has a higher IQ than Trump."
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All these ideas are terrific but none of them will work if we can't get to the gerrymandering that Republican legislatures impose.
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Finally, a non-Romantic comment that actually can be effective. No marching needed, to boot.
Gerrymandering and voter suppression are the down and dirty issues that the lawyers and legislators need to deal with. Fundamental.
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You can't "....get to the gerrymandering that Republican legislatures impose." if you don't win elections.
Redistricting is largely controlled by the representatives. If you don't like that outcome, provide better alternatives to Republican ideas and candidates - they won in 2010 and had that opportunity and used it to their advantage. It's that simple.
And if the Democrats can't recover their historic losses at the Federal, State and Local levels that gave the Republicans the highest amount in offices in the US since the 1920's, they will sit by as Republicans re-district again in 2020.
Stop useless protesting and get a strategy. Shut up the nauseatingly attention-grabbing celebrity involvement. Then get better solutions than the opposition. Run good candidates. Be a strong opposition party. Be relevant to all voters. And you'll win.
Redistricting is largely controlled by the representatives. If you don't like that outcome, provide better alternatives to Republican ideas and candidates - they won in 2010 and had that opportunity and used it to their advantage. It's that simple.
And if the Democrats can't recover their historic losses at the Federal, State and Local levels that gave the Republicans the highest amount in offices in the US since the 1920's, they will sit by as Republicans re-district again in 2020.
Stop useless protesting and get a strategy. Shut up the nauseatingly attention-grabbing celebrity involvement. Then get better solutions than the opposition. Run good candidates. Be a strong opposition party. Be relevant to all voters. And you'll win.
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Next up you write or call your elected officials at every level. You run for local office, get on the planning board of your community. You stay informed. You support journalism. You mentor or support young women starting their careers in any and all industries. Women are creative and good at networking and supporting each other - time to go bigly.
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i brought my niece and nephew to the women's march on dc. i know i saw thousands of families at that DC March. i saw no violence, just cheers and hope. it may take us twenty years to get a progressive agenda , and i may not live long enough to see it, but every one of those kids will be potential voters. its a long game and we shall overcome.
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In order for this movement to be really successful, they need to develop and strategy, and make a concerted effort to engage with women - and others-who do not necessarily hold all the progressive views that are gaining all the attention. The case needs to be made that ALL people deserve affordable and adequate healthcare. Planned Parenthood needs to emphasize the role they play in providing low income women off political persuasions access to prenatal care and cancer screening. Women in rural communities must not be forgotten. The turnout in conservative areas was impressive - what do these women want and what do they need should be a central question. Feminism needs to be defined as serving the needs of all women, not just those who agree with Gloria Steinem and Madonna.
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Feminism is serving all women. Some of them just haven't figured it out yet. Gloria Steinem and Madonna are women just like every other woman, and they have been fighting for you for many years even if you don't know it.
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Let's keep up the marches, with the hundreds of thousands of our citizens throughout the country. Let's have all Trump supporters now understand what it's like to be "in the crosshairs" for a change. I for one have had enough of their thinly veiled threats against minority groups, women, and others. The outcry about this disaster of a presidency should put Trump voters on notice that we will no longer sit quietly by. They need to understand that there is a price to be paid for their willful ignorance, and we will do everything in our power to make sure they will pay for it.
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What's next? Simple register and vote! Then assist those in your community to register and vote.
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Of the 58% of Democrats who did not vote in 2012, all were registered.
Even in mail-in ballot states, they did not bother to mail the ballot!!
Even in mail-in ballot states, they did not bother to mail the ballot!!
The problem is the fact that a "Women's" march is not what was needed at this point in time, especially given that the Democratic Party's biggest struggle right now is how to attract white men.
Originally, these were supposed to be protests against Trump (which they largely were outside of the US), but instead they were taken over and turned into just another politically unfocused feel-good event for liberal women.
These marches needed to be focused on defeating specific GOP/Trump policy proposals (i.e. protecting Planned Parenthood, protecting the ACA, protecting immigrants, etc.). It's not like women are going to be the only people threatened by Trump's presidency.
Originally, these were supposed to be protests against Trump (which they largely were outside of the US), but instead they were taken over and turned into just another politically unfocused feel-good event for liberal women.
These marches needed to be focused on defeating specific GOP/Trump policy proposals (i.e. protecting Planned Parenthood, protecting the ACA, protecting immigrants, etc.). It's not like women are going to be the only people threatened by Trump's presidency.
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Thanks for your wonderful insight. All of us girls will have to think hard about this. Gee, maybe we can get lawyers to defend Planned Parenthood and immigrants' rights.
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It obviously was what was NEEDED, because it was what galvanized so many people, men and women, to get out and march.
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Considering the real and imagined gaps between overeducated urban voters and rural populace, for this movement to continue and succeed, it is essential to be as inclusive as possible and build bridges. I am a pro-choice Catholic myself, but I think it is a huge mistake to write off pro-life folks as backward or religious freaks. Respect for life applies not only to the unborn, but also to the people already born, hence the idea expands to a wide array of important social issues such as education, healthcare and abolishing death penalty. We should work to find a common ground under Hilary Clinton's mantra that abortion should be safe, legal and rare.
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I don't know anyone who blows off pro-life folks. The problem we face is that they want to blow us off. I had an interesting FB discussion with a person opposed to abortion who claimed that because the organizers of the Women's March wouldn't allow a pro-life anti-abortion group sponsor the march, that "we" didn't care about them. I had to explain that I do care. I would never pressure a woman to have an abortion, I always respect a woman's choice and I support assistance for women to have their baby in good health and for assistance going forward in caring for that child or children. What I cannot abide is anti-choice women making the right to abortion an endless political discussion and having them fight against my rights to good health and a manageable life. I agree fully with everything else you said. However, I do believe that respect for women and their lives has to come before respect for the unborn in my book.
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Now what? should be something we all think about.
I think more videos like the one you posted of the parent/child divide about Trump should be a permanent feature. To see with your own eyes the lack of thinking or rationality that is brought to bear on Trump is a real eye-opener. The dad persuaded to vote for Trump because he once shook hands with the dad's workers was more persuasive to him than his own gay son's *abstract* well-being. A Christian mom who thinks Trump is Christian because "someone found it online". It was ominous. As if a con man would not be creating visuals for his marks.
I think more videos like the one you posted of the parent/child divide about Trump should be a permanent feature. To see with your own eyes the lack of thinking or rationality that is brought to bear on Trump is a real eye-opener. The dad persuaded to vote for Trump because he once shook hands with the dad's workers was more persuasive to him than his own gay son's *abstract* well-being. A Christian mom who thinks Trump is Christian because "someone found it online". It was ominous. As if a con man would not be creating visuals for his marks.
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On SNL this Saturday Aziz Ansari in his monologue said that the day after Trump was inaugurated an entire gender protested. If this gender had instead gone and voted for their gender they wouldn't have to be protesting, now would they?
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The majority did vote and the majority voted NOT to elect Trump POTUS.
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They did vote. Trump lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million, remember? Or is that an 'alternative fact'?
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So this gender went and voted and we still have Trump as president? This nation is a majority this gender nation no?
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As a blue gal in a state with a red supermajority, we must work toward 2018 to make any inroads. Red dominates everything here at the local and state levels, and it's incredibly difficult to find anyone safe to talk with about blue issues. "Liberal" is a dirty word.
The women's march was hope and beauty. Without unified issue-driven messaging it proclaimed that we will NOT be silent.
As the post-march messaging rolls out, though, please give us more to work with than just abortion. While access to all aspects of health care are important, that topic alone shuts the door on ALL other aspects of blue-tinted conversations in this part of the country. This one issue is a hill that millions of conservative women voters are willing to die on because they are appalled by the numbers: 3,000 abortions per day, roughly the 9/11 tally.
Give us more than abortion and we can start some good conversations. We must have more if we're going to win over any of the millions of one-issue voters. We cannot win anything in the South if abortion is our lead topic.
The women's march was hope and beauty. Without unified issue-driven messaging it proclaimed that we will NOT be silent.
As the post-march messaging rolls out, though, please give us more to work with than just abortion. While access to all aspects of health care are important, that topic alone shuts the door on ALL other aspects of blue-tinted conversations in this part of the country. This one issue is a hill that millions of conservative women voters are willing to die on because they are appalled by the numbers: 3,000 abortions per day, roughly the 9/11 tally.
Give us more than abortion and we can start some good conversations. We must have more if we're going to win over any of the millions of one-issue voters. We cannot win anything in the South if abortion is our lead topic.
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Another march planned for April 15, 2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/april-15-tax-day-trump-protest_us_58...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/april-15-tax-day-trump-protest_us_58...
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After this march, I decided that I will do what I have to kick out Republican lawmakers in my metro region. Whether it is money, time, or whatever is needed, I will do it.
It is my children's future at stake - don't know what these four years (hopefully only two) will do.
It is my children's future at stake - don't know what these four years (hopefully only two) will do.
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Have not read this article yet, but will leave this here while I read: To answer your question of 'what next?', April 15th, tax day marches. Make this POS release his tax returns.
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In my case, the march turned me an activist. My whole life I've been "nice" and quiet too. No more.
My representatives are going to hear from me on a regular basis. I was a life-long GOP who inched over to Independent who is going this week to not one but two Democrat meetings. I'm a Democrat until they betray the American public like the GOP have. I will read about what is going on in the legislature at the state and federal level and make my opinions known, I will march and I will vote. If I have to, I will run for office. If things don't change, it won't be for lack of trying on my part.
My representatives are going to hear from me on a regular basis. I was a life-long GOP who inched over to Independent who is going this week to not one but two Democrat meetings. I'm a Democrat until they betray the American public like the GOP have. I will read about what is going on in the legislature at the state and federal level and make my opinions known, I will march and I will vote. If I have to, I will run for office. If things don't change, it won't be for lack of trying on my part.
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This article is a classic example of 'biased' reporting. This march was a disgrace; signs that no young girl should read; madonna, that jerk, wanting to burn the White House, women who could not give a coherent answer as to why they were there, but most importantly, woman for PRO-LIFE, WERE TOLD THEY WERE NOT TO BE THERE.
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They were not told "not to be there" and, in fact, they were there. They were not allowed to be sponsors of the march. Big difference.
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PMAC – every single person marching was/is 'pro-life.'
The 'pro-gov't-intrusion-into-personal-choices-of-half-the-population' weren't welcomed because they stand against freedom of choice, which denigrates women, and against DT, who also denigrates women.
The 'pro-gov't-intrusion-into-personal-choices-of-half-the-population' weren't welcomed because they stand against freedom of choice, which denigrates women, and against DT, who also denigrates women.
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Pro-Life women were welcome at the march. They just weren't welcome to make the march a fight over abortion rights. No one was asked thier opinion about abortion. There were no gates or entrances and no one could be excluded if someone tried. The issue is this: Don't have an abortion if you don't want to, its ok, and teach your daughters, sons, nieces, nephews anything you want. But you cannot constantly fight the rest of us and try to encourage men to pass laws to take away our right to choose to protect our health and manage our lives. That's pro-lifers not respecting us, not the other way around. Its not pro-choice feminists who can't agree to disagree - its pro-lifers who are always trying to change our minds and our lives. I was at the march in DC and it was fantastic. Everyone was happy including kids. I'm sure their parents had appropriate explanations for any questions. And I have no doubt that there were many women who would not choose to have an abortion marching. There are smart enough to know that there are many issues and problems more important that trying to take away others rights to health care because of their religious beliefs.
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Keep marching.
I like to think about all he protesting that happened when Obama won, all the marches in the streets, etc, the looting. People who didn't like Obama did one thing: voted against his agenda at a later date. Wearing ridiculous hats and demanding equal rights doesn't do 1/10 of showing up to the ballot box.
I like to think about all he protesting that happened when Obama won, all the marches in the streets, etc, the looting. People who didn't like Obama did one thing: voted against his agenda at a later date. Wearing ridiculous hats and demanding equal rights doesn't do 1/10 of showing up to the ballot box.
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I will certainly defend the right of all of these women, which included a number of friends and one of my daughters-in-law, to engage in peaceful assembly to express their views.
However, for me at least, the title of the article should have read, "After Success of Women's March, ...So What?"
While watching the TV coverage of the protests on Inauguration Day, I observed to a conservative colleague that Democrats protest, while Republicans scheme. His retort was, "Yeah, and which one is more effective?"
If the Democratic Party is going to survive and thrive in the coming election cycles, it must not try to defend the past, it must audaciously and creatively plan for the future. We have often accused the GOP of trying to re-create the '50s. We must not set ourselves up to be accused of trying to re-create the 90s, or the New Deal era. There are only two strategic questions my party must answer:
- What do lower class, working class and middle class Americans want America to look like in 10 years?
- How do we get there?
The upper, monied classes will always be able to take care of themselves. The vast majority skated through the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Our party left our core constituencies behind for too many years, and now we have seen them picked off by various factions in the opposing party.
The conservatives are right about one thing - it is time to quit complaining. Let's get down to business.
However, for me at least, the title of the article should have read, "After Success of Women's March, ...So What?"
While watching the TV coverage of the protests on Inauguration Day, I observed to a conservative colleague that Democrats protest, while Republicans scheme. His retort was, "Yeah, and which one is more effective?"
If the Democratic Party is going to survive and thrive in the coming election cycles, it must not try to defend the past, it must audaciously and creatively plan for the future. We have often accused the GOP of trying to re-create the '50s. We must not set ourselves up to be accused of trying to re-create the 90s, or the New Deal era. There are only two strategic questions my party must answer:
- What do lower class, working class and middle class Americans want America to look like in 10 years?
- How do we get there?
The upper, monied classes will always be able to take care of themselves. The vast majority skated through the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Our party left our core constituencies behind for too many years, and now we have seen them picked off by various factions in the opposing party.
The conservatives are right about one thing - it is time to quit complaining. Let's get down to business.
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There is a lot more community and citizen organizing going on than I have ever seen before -- and I've been around a while. This march was an important beginning but marches have a limited impact. We will be hounding our representatives, engaging in massive organized resistance and pushing forward on issues of importance from defending our rights to climate policy.
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It would be a mistake to treat this weekend's protests as solely a celebration of left wing values or interests. Blocking or reversing Trump's policies will require legislative majorities, and that means Republican votes. Fortunately, there are plenty of moderates and even conservatives who oppose both the man and his agenda (even the National Review was #NeverTrump). They should be recruited to run in Republican primaries in districts that are unlikely to vote Democratic. What they should not be is ignored or shunned because they don't agree with the left on every issue.
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Republicans up for reelection in 2018 should be very nervous. Especially those lining up behind Trump. They will soon find out what is next.
White women sold their souls to Trump, it's a pity.
White women sold their souls to Trump, it's a pity.
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no - we did not! We intelligent women would never vote for a crooked politician -- especially one that destroys emails that could have put her in jail.
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Not all white women. And some of them have already learned that they were snowed by Don the Con and deceived by their own belief in patriarchy. This march made new feminists.
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Marches are about as effective as commenting online about them.
These public displays and writing comments online don't contribute to any significant real changes nor are the powers that be challenged.
It's just a way of venting, an emotional or political pressure valve release.
We should take more out of the playbook of other country's protests.
A little more demonstrative, less kumbaya, Facebook/Instagram fodder.
These public displays and writing comments online don't contribute to any significant real changes nor are the powers that be challenged.
It's just a way of venting, an emotional or political pressure valve release.
We should take more out of the playbook of other country's protests.
A little more demonstrative, less kumbaya, Facebook/Instagram fodder.
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I am delighted to see the people marching and I wish them success. But I also wonder how many of them turned out to vote on election day. Many democrats and their supporters tend to over think and over intellectualize things. I read that many women, minorities, gays, etc. who seem to be natural democrats could not see any difference between Trump and Hillary. Some said that Hillary did not exhibit sufficient empathy or there were other concerns about things that Bill Clinton did twenty years ago. I read a few weeks ago that 47% of women who support Planned Parenthood actually voted for Trump who they deemed to be more trustworthy than Hillary.
What I am getting at is that in politics the time to show up and make a difference is on election day. If you loose on election day then you are at a tremendous disadvantage. Hillary might not exhibit tons of empathy but I would much rather have her making appointments to the cabinet and the federal courts than Trump. I think that Hillary is more honest and able than Trump but regardless of which is the most honest, I would still have preferred to have Hillary making cabinet and judicial appointments. I think that she would have done more things and made more appointments with which I agree than will Trump. I love the democrats but it is frustrating that so many don't see to be able to get down to basics and see what is important and above all show up on election day.
What I am getting at is that in politics the time to show up and make a difference is on election day. If you loose on election day then you are at a tremendous disadvantage. Hillary might not exhibit tons of empathy but I would much rather have her making appointments to the cabinet and the federal courts than Trump. I think that Hillary is more honest and able than Trump but regardless of which is the most honest, I would still have preferred to have Hillary making cabinet and judicial appointments. I think that she would have done more things and made more appointments with which I agree than will Trump. I love the democrats but it is frustrating that so many don't see to be able to get down to basics and see what is important and above all show up on election day.
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Aubrey, among the many reasons that taken together caused the lower Dem voter turnout (including fraudulently deleting eligible, mostly minority, voters from the rolls), especially in WI, MI and PA, were projections by the many polls seeming to indicate that HRC was sure to win.
I've spoken with many people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for her, but were quite sure she'd win anyway. IL went blue, as expected, but one has to wonder if there were perhaps 77,000 voters in those other states who thought the same.
I've spoken with many people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for her, but were quite sure she'd win anyway. IL went blue, as expected, but one has to wonder if there were perhaps 77,000 voters in those other states who thought the same.
In the Declaration of Independence there states a line concerning the governed, us. It was written to oust the power of a King George III over us. His power strangled us and pounced on the rights of free men. Today, we are required to be civil and peaceful. Therefore we must stop the new King and his court (Congress) before they take our rights not just from the minority among us. The line goes like this, "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends (destroying our unalienable rights), it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,...". There is such a thing as recall. Recall those Republicans to shift the power in either House of Congress, in this way one forces them to either work together or not pass a thing, gridlock. This can also be done in every state of the union. The old cliche "divided we fall, united we stand" is what the new King and his court will introduce in every piece of legislation while they rob us blind.
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What's next? Picking one or a small group of causes or issues that I can contribute to. For me I am going to get more involved in an environmental issue happening close to my house in upstate NY. But it can also be as simple as checking on a neighbor more often or coaching a kids sporting team. And voting!!!! In all elections not just the presidential years.
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Trump supporters scoff, what difference did the women's marches make to Trump?
1. The marches so threatened Trump that he unleashed Spicer and Conway, his top team of attack liars, on the media to spread false attendance numbers about the inauguration vs. the women's marches. 2. Trump himself veered off topic at a peacemaking talk at CIA HQ to attack protestors, undermining his purposes and perhaps reminding listeners that he had previously lashed out at the intel community for investigating Russian interference in the election. 3. Trump squandered a unique moment of good will in the dawn of his presidency to attack those who oppose the cruel, unjust, and unpopular policies and beliefs that led to his rise in power.
Why did Trump react? Because even Trump could not ignore the real truth (not "alternative fact") that millions of Americans and people across the globe reject his views and dislike the man so much that they took to the streets with homemade signs and heartfelt determination to limit the damages he'll do to people, the planet, and the principles and institutions of democracy. Protests happened in more than 600 American communities alone without a single arrest or act of violence. And protests will happen again and again as women, men, youth, and children fight Trumpism with political and social activism in their communities, states, and nations. Fired up and ready to go!
1. The marches so threatened Trump that he unleashed Spicer and Conway, his top team of attack liars, on the media to spread false attendance numbers about the inauguration vs. the women's marches. 2. Trump himself veered off topic at a peacemaking talk at CIA HQ to attack protestors, undermining his purposes and perhaps reminding listeners that he had previously lashed out at the intel community for investigating Russian interference in the election. 3. Trump squandered a unique moment of good will in the dawn of his presidency to attack those who oppose the cruel, unjust, and unpopular policies and beliefs that led to his rise in power.
Why did Trump react? Because even Trump could not ignore the real truth (not "alternative fact") that millions of Americans and people across the globe reject his views and dislike the man so much that they took to the streets with homemade signs and heartfelt determination to limit the damages he'll do to people, the planet, and the principles and institutions of democracy. Protests happened in more than 600 American communities alone without a single arrest or act of violence. And protests will happen again and again as women, men, youth, and children fight Trumpism with political and social activism in their communities, states, and nations. Fired up and ready to go!
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Trump is in terminal meltdown. Distract, dissemble, diss Obams, that's there agenda. Ours is show our numbers and make Trump's head blow up.
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I marched in Boston, and I'm glad I did. And I think it struck a blow to Trump's self-regard that was worthwhile.
But realistically, most (not all) of these marches occurred in liberal enclaves. We were mostly talking to each other. And we should do that -- it's important to band together and feel the camaraderie. But it won't change votes in Western PA, or rural Ohio, or the other places that didn't get jobs back during the last 8 years.
Now we need to reach out to them and bring them (back) into the Democratic party. Not at the expense of minorities -- our platform has always had more than one plank. Let's work to build it out and show "Reagan Democrats" that we can do better for them.
But realistically, most (not all) of these marches occurred in liberal enclaves. We were mostly talking to each other. And we should do that -- it's important to band together and feel the camaraderie. But it won't change votes in Western PA, or rural Ohio, or the other places that didn't get jobs back during the last 8 years.
Now we need to reach out to them and bring them (back) into the Democratic party. Not at the expense of minorities -- our platform has always had more than one plank. Let's work to build it out and show "Reagan Democrats" that we can do better for them.
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I counted upwards of 25 black faces in all the D.C. marchers, and 15 of them were on the stage laughing at Madonna. Sorry, Obama's charisma was not transferable to Hillary, who lacked any semblance of it.
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I live in the rural part of Washington. Due to our "top two" primary system, we haven't even had a democrat on the ballot to vote for in the past several elections. I think you're perception that the marches all happened in liberal enclaves isn't entirely accurate. In Wenatchee, nearly 2000 people turned out. In my town of 1,000, more than 600 turned out. In this past election, a group of local people dedicated themselves to getting rid of 2 corrupt county commissioners, and we succeeded. I agree wholeheartedly that we need all the help we can get to rebuild the visibility of progressive values in rural America, but don't just look at the red on the map and assume nothing is happening there. We are rising too!
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Not that I don't agree with your general comment, but I would hardly call Dayton, Cincinnati, and Cleveland--and Chillocothe!--liberal enclaves. Nor are many of the cities I saw photos from.
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A group of Former congressional staffers reveal best practices for making Congress listen with a guide online: https://www.indivisibleguide.com. All over the country groups are using this guide effectively - so can people from the Women's March. Indivisible is the tool to use!
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You can't help but respect the worldwide turnout for the "march". I would say it was a lot of effort done at the wrong time. The march should have been in Oct to strengthen their candidates message. Unfortunately the media wasn't reporting what was really going on with the silent majority. If they are able to coordinate this type of effort for the next election, I can't help but think it will weigh heavily on undecided voters.
No sure how marches and protests fit into campaigns. Marches and protests are usually against something, so his first day in office seems like good timing to me (in Dayton, we also marched the second weekend in November).
Who will be our movement's Gandhi or MLK or Nelson Mandela? We need a leader who can unite us all and I don't see one yet in the democratic party. Elizabeth Warren is a strong voice but we need the next generation to step up.
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Are you sure we shouldn't be baking cookies trying to win back the blue collar working man?
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The Congressional Switchboard phone is 866 220 0044. Put it in your calendar to call weekly, bi-weekly, monthly. Choose one but call and keep calling. You only need your state or zip code.
Tell them what you want. That may change over time but hold their feet to the fire.
Tell them what you want. That may change over time but hold their feet to the fire.
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If everyone who marched or supported the march wants to make change really happen now the next step is to VOTE. If everyone voted. Trump would not have been elected. Lazy people must VOTE. Folks think their vote doesn't count - well this election, with it's close numbers, proved just how wrong they are. Get involved in your own community, run for office, or support someone you truly believe in. Most American's don't want the far right's fringe agenda, yet that's what they want to shove down our throat. Don't let them! People who did vote for Trump did not primarily vote for the far right's social agenda, they just wanted a business man to try to change the way business has left the US. Many felt that he would bring back jobs that have gone away or overseas. Unfortunately, that probably is not going to happen since we can't go back to burning coal or steel mills coming back. They didn't vote for women's rights to be taken away either. So let the GOP know that THEIR agenda is not what some folks voted for when they voted for Trump. Trump promised them free reign with their social agenda because he just wanted them to get him elected. THEY MUST BE STOPPED!!!
WE WILL NOT GO BACK TO 1950!!!
WE WILL NOT GO BACK TO 1950!!!
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On the ground, community level, person to person organizing. Unexciting, but real. Listening. Refocusing. And maybe then my Democratic party will begin to support workers and wages, which somehow was forgotten in the run-up to the election. Trump just walked in and stole those voters...the ones that voted for Obama last time. They're not 'evil racists'. They were ignored. A crucial mistake.
But might workers have latent racism as part of their makeup, just waiting for someone to come along and push that button? Well, it's been written about as such since the Reagan Democrats, as they were called, in 1980. There is apparently some validity. But will the Democratic leaders admit that in a rush to remove stigma from every walk of society -- culminating in the 'crisis' that wasn't a crisis before we made it one, the 'bathroom engineering' disaster -- that perhaps the mistake of ignoring workers might have pushed Wi,OH,Penn,Mi to vote for Trump? That they might actually be complicit in his election due to poor leadership that ignored party values in place since FDR? Will they admit this, in a ruthless self-interrogation on the way to rebuilding the party? I think not.
Trans values are important, and they are the least protected and most attacked of any group around. But with marriage equality (yes!), and so forth...how fast should we expect people to go?
I would suggest we could have gone any speed, for women and minorities, had we put workers on the national convention dais.
But might workers have latent racism as part of their makeup, just waiting for someone to come along and push that button? Well, it's been written about as such since the Reagan Democrats, as they were called, in 1980. There is apparently some validity. But will the Democratic leaders admit that in a rush to remove stigma from every walk of society -- culminating in the 'crisis' that wasn't a crisis before we made it one, the 'bathroom engineering' disaster -- that perhaps the mistake of ignoring workers might have pushed Wi,OH,Penn,Mi to vote for Trump? That they might actually be complicit in his election due to poor leadership that ignored party values in place since FDR? Will they admit this, in a ruthless self-interrogation on the way to rebuilding the party? I think not.
Trans values are important, and they are the least protected and most attacked of any group around. But with marriage equality (yes!), and so forth...how fast should we expect people to go?
I would suggest we could have gone any speed, for women and minorities, had we put workers on the national convention dais.
"Todd Gitlin, a former president of Students for a Democratic Society and a scholar of political movements, noted that the civil rights and antiwar movements succeeded because of the organized networks that preceded and followed any single mass protest.'
History reminds us, sadly, that the antiwar movement succeeded only as a catalyst for electing Nixon, who prolonged the war at the c cost of an additional 25,000 American lives.
History reminds us, sadly, that the antiwar movement succeeded only as a catalyst for electing Nixon, who prolonged the war at the c cost of an additional 25,000 American lives.
It was the foolishness of Gitlin and the New Left in continuing to oppose Humphrey that cost us with Nixon. The same pattern of cupidity and self-destructive childish behavior is evident with the Bernie Sanders crown. Todd Gitlin's father thought his son was a naive fool, and he was and is right.
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I went to the march in Boston, my first ever protest march. I get the advice, pick an issue and focus on it, else you'll burn out. But that doesn't stop me from caring about many issues. And seeing all of them and then some represented in one place? That was wonderful.
I already vote, already write letters to my representatives, already donate to causes, already subscribe to and read newspapers and comment on articles.
None of that compares to having experienced people who also care gathered in person in such overwhelming numbers.
I already vote, already write letters to my representatives, already donate to causes, already subscribe to and read newspapers and comment on articles.
None of that compares to having experienced people who also care gathered in person in such overwhelming numbers.
How is it a success when tons of trash littered the streets of Washington? March for equal rights, but when equal responsibility comes up no one is there. The hypocrisy and self-centered attitudes of the left, liberals and democrats are what elected Trump. Go on and you will be assuring his reelection.
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Chessbuff, I knew someone would make this comment. The Park Service was woefully unprepared. There were barely any trash cans and the ones that were there were overflowing within a few hours. No one from DPW came around to empty them. People had no choice but to put their trash and recycling next to the cans or carry it around all day.
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London calling to say where we need to go from here is to push Russia out of it's position of thinking it can manipulate our politics toward its goal of increasing the price of oil and keeping Putin in power.
Trump is being pushed by Putin to move against Iran, which Russia cannot openly do on its own, because Putin's gambit of trying to exploit tensions in Syria had no effect on oil prices. Reimposing sanctions on Iran and causing a war there would spike prices is Putin's gamble. Trump is his knight, and Israel his poisoned pawn in this gambit.
Trump is being pushed by Putin to move against Iran, which Russia cannot openly do on its own, because Putin's gambit of trying to exploit tensions in Syria had no effect on oil prices. Reimposing sanctions on Iran and causing a war there would spike prices is Putin's gamble. Trump is his knight, and Israel his poisoned pawn in this gambit.
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I thought the women's march was about women's rights, especially as they relate to healthcare and access to abortion and birth control. Is the NYTimes taking over the march and it's messaging to serve an agenda?
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@Mary,
I think most women (and men) thought the march was about womens' rights. How many know, that one of the organizers was Linda Sarsour, a hijab wearing woman who believes in sharia law; her agenda is not equality of the sexes.
I think most women (and men) thought the march was about womens' rights. How many know, that one of the organizers was Linda Sarsour, a hijab wearing woman who believes in sharia law; her agenda is not equality of the sexes.
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I was at the March in Washington and the statements about "vulgarity" are highly exaggerated. Madonna was out of place to say what she said, but she was one out of 500,000. I saw those 500,000 women and men who exercised their first amendment right, with little profanity or vulgarity. Everyone I encountered was kind and friendly. There were NO incidents of violence and NO arrests.
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What is newsworthy here is the degree of organization, efficiency and decency exhibited by the organizers and participants of these marches...most of whom, by the way, WERE WOMEN!
I attended the March in Boston, where an astounding over 160,000 people gathered in the most respectful way. We didn't see a single instance of disrespect or ugliness. Also inspiring was the composition of the crowd: all ages: teenagers, college students , millennials, older people like me. Minorities of every kind, and even MEN! By the way, I understand we were the largest March after D.C., and I saw NO mention of this in the Times.
Frankly, The New York Times totally lost its credibility during this election as far I'm concerned. I've always considered the NYT my definitive source for news; no longer. Your coverage of the election was just WRONG on so many levels. IMO, you helped to hand Trump the election by your poor reporting, incorrect & biased predictions. He played you media perfectly, goading you into giving him constant free publicity.
Instead of reading your newspaper, I'm going to spend my time getting involved in the Women's March NEXT STEP.
I attended the March in Boston, where an astounding over 160,000 people gathered in the most respectful way. We didn't see a single instance of disrespect or ugliness. Also inspiring was the composition of the crowd: all ages: teenagers, college students , millennials, older people like me. Minorities of every kind, and even MEN! By the way, I understand we were the largest March after D.C., and I saw NO mention of this in the Times.
Frankly, The New York Times totally lost its credibility during this election as far I'm concerned. I've always considered the NYT my definitive source for news; no longer. Your coverage of the election was just WRONG on so many levels. IMO, you helped to hand Trump the election by your poor reporting, incorrect & biased predictions. He played you media perfectly, goading you into giving him constant free publicity.
Instead of reading your newspaper, I'm going to spend my time getting involved in the Women's March NEXT STEP.
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Yet here you are, having read the article itself I assume, and writing a long and cogent response.
I share your antipathy toward a media that irresponsibly gave Trump what, 2bn., 4 bn. in free publicity...some stations were all trump, all the time.
They couldn't resist the ratings, and laughed at him, pointing and snickering, but...they played him, over and over.
Still, here we both are, reading about him, and what he engenders (in this case a march), and writing a response. The guy is unpredictable, which will now make him newsworthy every five minutes, until he starts a war or something.
Or something?
Now, that's YUUUUGGEE!
I share your antipathy toward a media that irresponsibly gave Trump what, 2bn., 4 bn. in free publicity...some stations were all trump, all the time.
They couldn't resist the ratings, and laughed at him, pointing and snickering, but...they played him, over and over.
Still, here we both are, reading about him, and what he engenders (in this case a march), and writing a response. The guy is unpredictable, which will now make him newsworthy every five minutes, until he starts a war or something.
Or something?
Now, that's YUUUUGGEE!
You got me there, Other Scott in CA. It's hard to break my habit of morning coffee & The Times online. Now, instead of The Times, I'd better start using those extra morning minutes to write congressmen.
What's next? That's easy. Accept the fact that Donald J. Trump WON the election. He is OUR president. THE president of the United States of America. Thank you.
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Some constructive criticism on the March: No more self-indulgent celebrity speeches. Some of them were as hateful as the thing Trump says and do more to detract from your message than anything. Now the critics have something to complain about.
Don't say it's not a Trump protest beforehand and then call it a Trump protest when you get there. You weren't fooling anyone to begin with. Don't try to alienate people who want to join in. You say it's for everyone, but then you reject people who don't conform to your specific beliefs.
DO wear pink hats. It looked great from above and showed just how many people were really there.
Don't say it's not a Trump protest beforehand and then call it a Trump protest when you get there. You weren't fooling anyone to begin with. Don't try to alienate people who want to join in. You say it's for everyone, but then you reject people who don't conform to your specific beliefs.
DO wear pink hats. It looked great from above and showed just how many people were really there.
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Too bad the march came after the election. If women had marched in such numbers before the election, it might have had more practical effect!
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Unless all theses marching women march into the Red States and makes friends with the women there this was just a feel good exercise. Instead of spending all their political energy amount those who agree they need to become missionaries to the Red States. Organizing and changing peoples' mind is hard discouraging work. I hope the marching women have the sense and the guts to do the work.
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Plaster every surface with photoshopped images of Trump in a pussyhat.
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1. Call congress today and say no to Betsy Devoss (202) 225 3121 give them your zip code and they will plug you in
2. Join the organizations that support issues important to you
3. Join your local PTSA to have a voice and help the children in the poorest district near or in your community
2. Join the organizations that support issues important to you
3. Join your local PTSA to have a voice and help the children in the poorest district near or in your community
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They do not answer their phone - not sure why.
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Over one million people came out for the Women's March in the U.S, including men, children and babies. Turnout vastly exceeded expectations. People there, by and large, made the individual choice and commitment to show up. We don't need vast organization for those people, including me, to do some things as individuals on a regular basis:
1) Stay aware of what issues are coming up for a vote and who to contact to express an opinion. Regularly take a moment to place calls and send e-mails.
2) Call and visit our Representatives and Senators. Publicize it if they won't accept appointments to meet with constituents or respond to messages in some way.
3) Stay informed and act at the local and state level.
I thought that since I'm a Democrat represented by Democrats in Washington, I would only need to send messages of encouragement. Then, my senators joined others to defeat a Sanders amendment allowing import of cheaper drugs from abroad. They cite safety as a concern, but they also accept money from Big Pharma. They need to know their constituents are watching and need to hear from us what we feel is important.
I think the March succeeded already in these ways:
1) Senators and Congressional Representatives saw that there is strong opposition to many of Trump's proposed changes that threaten the way of life many Americans value.
2) Many individuals signed up to help out with organizations they might not even have heard of before.
3) Hope was rekindled or reborn.
1) Stay aware of what issues are coming up for a vote and who to contact to express an opinion. Regularly take a moment to place calls and send e-mails.
2) Call and visit our Representatives and Senators. Publicize it if they won't accept appointments to meet with constituents or respond to messages in some way.
3) Stay informed and act at the local and state level.
I thought that since I'm a Democrat represented by Democrats in Washington, I would only need to send messages of encouragement. Then, my senators joined others to defeat a Sanders amendment allowing import of cheaper drugs from abroad. They cite safety as a concern, but they also accept money from Big Pharma. They need to know their constituents are watching and need to hear from us what we feel is important.
I think the March succeeded already in these ways:
1) Senators and Congressional Representatives saw that there is strong opposition to many of Trump's proposed changes that threaten the way of life many Americans value.
2) Many individuals signed up to help out with organizations they might not even have heard of before.
3) Hope was rekindled or reborn.
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Successful movements unify around actions to be taken not people to be despised. We are faced with class issues here and the poor, black, single mom in LA faces struggles much more aligned with the laid-off, white, middle class line worker in Cleveland than either of them share with the hedge fund manager on Wall Street. We have to focus on the needs of the majority: sustainable jobs and businesses, health care, education, and workplace rights.
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Thank you@ Tom Mattia. Mass bullying of a bully, how does this move anything forward?
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I wish the best for the marchers but if they are going to make a difference in the future they need to organize like the NRA. The NRA knows that the foremost thing on the minds of each congressman and senator is the next election. If an issue, group, etc. can influence that congressman's or senator's next election (or primary) in their district or state , then it is an important issue. If it will not affect their upcoming election then it is not important. Can women and their supporters organize to make a difference in district and state elections? I guess over the next few years we will see.
A friend from another state has identified the closest swing district to where she lives, and she will work to turn it blue, starting now. We can all do that, even if we live in blue states. It will take some heavy lifting, but we can't simply hope that things will change if we sit on our hands.
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It was only a success in an echo chamber, as they say. (The same reason why Hillary lost). The goal and the only way forward is to win back those whom the Democrats have lost, and this will only be achieved by being seen once again as the party of honesty and doing good for others -- not protesting, marching, and being seen as one who supported a lying, cheating, conniving candidate. True or not, the Republicans managed to make the "corrupt Clintons" stick. The only goal should be to undo that damage, and the only way to undo it is to be the opposite.
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I agree wholeheartedly. My conservative friends and family members totally see the Left as spoiled and sensitive and unconcerned about the things that affect many working Americans. And they're not always wrong about that.
For my part, I'm planning to keep a close eye on my Congressional reps (I live in the Maryland suburbs of DC). I'd love to become part of a coalition of folks from both "sides". I use ironic quotes because there aren't really two sides - people are more complex than that.
For my part, I'm planning to keep a close eye on my Congressional reps (I live in the Maryland suburbs of DC). I'd love to become part of a coalition of folks from both "sides". I use ironic quotes because there aren't really two sides - people are more complex than that.
Hey, I am still wearing my pink hat with the cat ears! I have a four year supply of safety pins, and I am ready to march, march, and march some more.
My biggest issue now is: alternative facts. Did you watch Kellyanne on Meet the Press? After the jaw dropping "alternative facts" explanation, she then pivots to blaming Chuck Todd for using the word ridiculous in a question. Ridiculous was a polite way to put it. George Orwell was right, but he was just off by 33 years.
Two things died in 2016: decency and reality. I think we need to get reality back before we can work on the rest of these issues.
My biggest issue now is: alternative facts. Did you watch Kellyanne on Meet the Press? After the jaw dropping "alternative facts" explanation, she then pivots to blaming Chuck Todd for using the word ridiculous in a question. Ridiculous was a polite way to put it. George Orwell was right, but he was just off by 33 years.
Two things died in 2016: decency and reality. I think we need to get reality back before we can work on the rest of these issues.
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This line - “In many parts of the country, the Democratic Party is a shell,” Mr. Gitlin said. After the Women's March, I am not concerned. Thank God to this beautiful re-birth of the Democratic Party. My husband and I Marched. We are calling Senators this week and we are working with Planned Parenthood and the DNC in lock step. In the words of Marianne Williamson we are not trying, we are doing. And we are reclaiming our Democracy, and our Morality in this country.
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Yes, the Women's March was a resounding success. Not just here in our country but, as those astounding photos in yesterdasy's Times showed, all over the world. And it wasn't
only a “women's” march, it was a People's March for all people everywhere. Millions marched,, there has never before like it.
But I think the focus was too narrow. I'm alll for reproductive rights and those of LGBT people but Trump''s election poses a far more serious threat. In fact, the gravest threat imaginable, a threat to the very existence of the human race.
Our most horrifying nightmare seems to be about to come true, our thousands of nuclear weapons are now in the hands of a man of questioable sanity.
What can we do about this? I don't know, but I find the the failure of the leaders of theMarch to even mention this threat very hard to
we do about this? I don't know, but I find the the failure of the leaders of theMarch to even mention this threat very hard to undeerstand.
only a “women's” march, it was a People's March for all people everywhere. Millions marched,, there has never before like it.
But I think the focus was too narrow. I'm alll for reproductive rights and those of LGBT people but Trump''s election poses a far more serious threat. In fact, the gravest threat imaginable, a threat to the very existence of the human race.
Our most horrifying nightmare seems to be about to come true, our thousands of nuclear weapons are now in the hands of a man of questioable sanity.
What can we do about this? I don't know, but I find the the failure of the leaders of theMarch to even mention this threat very hard to
we do about this? I don't know, but I find the the failure of the leaders of theMarch to even mention this threat very hard to undeerstand.
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The gravest threat Trump's election poses is to those that want to complain, occupy wall-street, or whatever the next boogie man is. What was even being "protested", a guy that has done more for the American worker (male & female) since his election than was done in the prior eight years.
Many people are predicting this energy will fade without a single focus.
Balderdash. That's wrong view. What we have created is an environment, a powerful, not-to-be-ignored presence. We have shown ourselves in our numbers and our determination. With such power, we will tackle multiple facets of many issues nationwide.
The issue, for those who need to boil it down to one, is what America is as a nation: are we a country of inclusion that supports its citizens? or are we a country that abuses and enslaves its citizens? That's the bottom line.
Yesterday's march should not surprise anyone. The Minority President who lost the popular vote has no mandate. That millions of Americans came out to tell him that is a natural response to his bellicose, narcissistic, infantile approach to his life and now, our government. This response isn't going away. As he and his little minions wreak havoc on our country, we will grow stronger, bigger, and more powerful in response. Love trumps hate. And so does integrity, knowledge, and true confidence.
Balderdash. That's wrong view. What we have created is an environment, a powerful, not-to-be-ignored presence. We have shown ourselves in our numbers and our determination. With such power, we will tackle multiple facets of many issues nationwide.
The issue, for those who need to boil it down to one, is what America is as a nation: are we a country of inclusion that supports its citizens? or are we a country that abuses and enslaves its citizens? That's the bottom line.
Yesterday's march should not surprise anyone. The Minority President who lost the popular vote has no mandate. That millions of Americans came out to tell him that is a natural response to his bellicose, narcissistic, infantile approach to his life and now, our government. This response isn't going away. As he and his little minions wreak havoc on our country, we will grow stronger, bigger, and more powerful in response. Love trumps hate. And so does integrity, knowledge, and true confidence.
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A new political movement which is defintely progressive in nature. Who, but the all embracing protest organizers, would block anti-abortion activits from formally participating? Ah, the all inclusive left strikes again.
P.S. I loved to hear Madonna's stirring words. This true patriot rode with Teddy Roosevelt at San Juan Hill in 1898 and must never be forgotten. If age brings wisdom, Madonna is a genius.
P.S. I loved to hear Madonna's stirring words. This true patriot rode with Teddy Roosevelt at San Juan Hill in 1898 and must never be forgotten. If age brings wisdom, Madonna is a genius.
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This is NOT reportage, but analysis. When will the grey lady stop printing fake news.
The pro-life marches have between 250,000 to 500,000 participants every January, but the NYT rarely ever even mentions them. And why is that? Answer: liberal bias.
The pro-life marches have between 250,000 to 500,000 participants every January, but the NYT rarely ever even mentions them. And why is that? Answer: liberal bias.
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You realize that the marches were held all over the country, right? Pro-life marches are held in one solidified area, and generally attract around 250,000 people. Over 3 million people marched around america, and over 4 million if you consider everyone else around the world. 750,000 in Los Angeles alone, drawing in over 22% of the city's population. Chicago had close to 300,000, and D.C. had 500,000. This is something we are extremely passionate about. Thanks to people like Hillary, we are a part of history, and we will not let Trump erase us. This is not fake news. We were there and saw it. When marches against the President draw over 3 times as many people as his inauguration did, you have to ask yourself something: Is he really the president for us? Does he represent the majority of us?
Both of those are big, fat "No's".
Both of those are big, fat "No's".
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And the problem with analysis is...? Any good news source includes it, and not everyone is always going to agree with it. It's not "fake news" (or "alternate facts"), it's a point of view.
The "pro-life" march was definitely mentioned last year (See: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004162473/pro-life-activists-rall..., and probably in most, if not all previous years.
But if it's not getting as much publicity as you want, take a tip from a famous choral conductor under whom I had the privilege to sing: "Make a different mistake!"
The "pro-life" march was definitely mentioned last year (See: https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000004162473/pro-life-activists-rall..., and probably in most, if not all previous years.
But if it's not getting as much publicity as you want, take a tip from a famous choral conductor under whom I had the privilege to sing: "Make a different mistake!"
Ridiculous. Each year the NYT gives the pro-life march a squib. This march gets paragraphs and paragraphs.
This is just one of the reasons that most Americans no longer believe the mainstream media.
This is just one of the reasons that most Americans no longer believe the mainstream media.
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This could and should be the beginning of a new political party of moderates from both parties. We have got to get involved. The far right and yes, far left have kept us invisible too long.
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Three words for you: Abortion, Homosexuality, Bible. "Never the twain shall meet," as Thomas Hardy wrote.
I think this is an excellent point. The moderate's position here is Trump must go. He is a traitor and holds himself above the law. I marched and am not a Bernie Sanders or nothing nihilist. I voted for Hillary. I am moderate through and through. I am pro ACA. I think those against world trade are naive, even a little nuts and xenophobic. Trump just came out against the Asian Trade agreement, essentially handing Asia markets to China. He is a dunce. But, I heard similar rhetoric from Sanders. Let's not get wedged and splintered. We agree Trump must go. We agree health care is a right. Access to affordable housing is a right. Freedom to vote is a right. Election fraud is a fraud to prevent access to voting. Let's stay on the mainstream issues that were used to put in a fascist: Trump.
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Charles.......Jesus never said one thing about abortion or homosexuality. The focus of Jesus' teachings were, do unto others, love thy neighbor, take care of the poor and sick. There's no denying it.....Jesus was a liberal.
The Times reporters write that the challenge now is to channel the protest "into action that produces political change". If you define the challenge as "political change", you're defining for failure. If you define the challenge as stopping Trump initiatives where they can be stopped, and mobilizing for the next federal elections, that's something that can succeed. The challenge isn't "political change", it's "politics".
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Please don't try to give Mr. Brock any "cred" by linking him in any way to the people-powered movement. His top-down DNC-donor work is what in part gave us this disaster. All he's looking to do is keep his own revenue stream open so he has a seat at the table. His campaigning is based on smears, propaganda, and attacks, which will no nothing but repel voters. He lied in his book attacking Anita Hill in the 1990s and continued to lie about Bernie Sanders and his supporters throughout the Democratic primaries.
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America should not wait to correct the grievous wrong that was perpetrated on our nation in the 2016 election. Trump is a debacle in progress. He needs to be removed from office before he does further harm to America and Americans.
Dump Trump, whatever it takes. Do it now.
Dump Trump, whatever it takes. Do it now.
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If you don't recognize that the wrong was perpetrated BY our nation, not ON our nation, you're probably wasting your time.
We have only just begun....
There will be work to do all the time, on many issues.
It is a matter of organization and beating dt's incessant small talk. The spineless politicians will have to listen and realize the march, women and men together, was not a one day event and their jobs and pockets are on the line, as well as, the safety of the world.
There will be work to do all the time, on many issues.
It is a matter of organization and beating dt's incessant small talk. The spineless politicians will have to listen and realize the march, women and men together, was not a one day event and their jobs and pockets are on the line, as well as, the safety of the world.
Undeniably his was the "Leftist Women's March".
Conservative women, even those who opposed Trump every step of the way,
were neither wanted nor invited.
In some cases they were explicitly uninvited!
Well, all this virtue signaling wouldn't have sat well with me anyway...
Conservative women, even those who opposed Trump every step of the way,
were neither wanted nor invited.
In some cases they were explicitly uninvited!
Well, all this virtue signaling wouldn't have sat well with me anyway...
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How about we restart teaching people facts and truths? Movies and TV shows about the reality of the "Reagan revolution" and the actions of "job creators" showing people the real reasons why things are they way they are. Showing the truth behind the reasons that the people are lacking the security they seem to be longing for.
How about some kind of nation wide progressive answer to ALEC?
How about some classes or shows on civics and the ways our Nation and government really work? Some history lessons on who the Founders really were and what they really built.
Some honest and serious reporting about facts instead of opinions would also go a long way towards rebuilding the commons.
The bosses have always known that if they can get the white working stiff to fear and hate the black or browns working stiff they will have an easier time stealing from everyone.
Democrats need to realize and work to proving that We the People are all in this together; white men and women right along side all the other folks democrats have sided with over the years.
How about some kind of nation wide progressive answer to ALEC?
How about some classes or shows on civics and the ways our Nation and government really work? Some history lessons on who the Founders really were and what they really built.
Some honest and serious reporting about facts instead of opinions would also go a long way towards rebuilding the commons.
The bosses have always known that if they can get the white working stiff to fear and hate the black or browns working stiff they will have an easier time stealing from everyone.
Democrats need to realize and work to proving that We the People are all in this together; white men and women right along side all the other folks democrats have sided with over the years.
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Agree but we must understand Trump is the president now regardless who voted or did not vote for him. People should respect our constitution and no more division of parties. Agree or disagree let's work together for the common good of our country and its people.
Remember United we stand!
Remember United we stand!
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Today we urge our state representatives to introduce legislation that would make all candidates who wish to be eligible to be on their respective state ballot's produce tax returns.
Call as well.
Next, send some money to the insurgent groups of your choice.
Call as well.
Next, send some money to the insurgent groups of your choice.
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Next up: Trump Taxes March on Saturday, April 15th. I'll be there.
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What's next? Years of local activism, including civil disobedience, registering voters, protecting workers, our environment, our healthcare, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, as well as voter education movements - from the local community organizing level up to nation-wide organizations. We've only just begun with over 3 million peaceful marchers in every state, large and small cities and rural areas. We are awoke!
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No, I beg to differ.
Now that the marchers feel stupendously virtuous the hard work of winning elections will be left to the same Democratic Party that so woefully underperformed this past election.
The choir has been preached to, that's all.
Now that the marchers feel stupendously virtuous the hard work of winning elections will be left to the same Democratic Party that so woefully underperformed this past election.
The choir has been preached to, that's all.
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The groups that organized the March are not party-affiliated - we welcome all. Watch & see - or better yet, join us!
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I'm Pro Life and that means this parade is not for me.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/17/organizers-of-the-...
It doesn't matter that I opposed Trump every step of the way, by the March organizer's standards I'm a heretic.
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/17/organizers-of-the-...
It doesn't matter that I opposed Trump every step of the way, by the March organizer's standards I'm a heretic.
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Next time, don't ignore a candidate like Bernie Sanders. Trump basically won on the real concerns that Sanders supporters have. Income inequality is the number one issue. The ongoing destruction of the middle class gave Trump the votes he needed to defeat Clinton. The most significant problems we face are not gender based and we need to get out of our silos.
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thank you DNC
Bernie would have had my vote had he not paved the road for Trump. He will never have my vote. Bernie was more effective than Bernie and Putin in handing us Trump. Bernie is a vainglorious boor and blowhard.
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I'm a woman, and I totally agree that the most significant problems we face are not gender based. The left has generally ignored the concerns of many folks about income, national security, and domestic crime. I'm still not hearing us address that.
I marched in D.C. on Saturday and it was a positive, moving, inspiring, and transformative experience. So many people, squished together, and yet no fights, people were so polite and respectful. I'm 33, married, straight and wanting to start a family. I've always been a feminist thanks to my Mom, but certainly after reading Gloria Steinem's work in my 20s and learning of the hardships and discrimination faced by our foremothers - there's no going back for me. Today I listened to Joshua Johnson's 1A show on NPR from Friday about the state of feminism. I recommend it. Some guests said, and I agree, that the feminist movement is strengthened by the diverse viewpoints and goals of all in the movement - and the various causes are related - one example, women's health and reproductive freedom is directly tied to a woman's economic security and thus to our country's economy. I for one, and many I've talked to who marched this weekend, were so inspired by our fellow Americans that we are committing to reaching out and remaining engaged.
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This isn't a girl thang, a boy thang, a republican thang, a democratic thang, this is "what kind of society do we want? Can we make equality part of the Rule of Law? Can we start thinking of one another as Human Beings?" Imagine if we would stop balkanizing our differences and unite in common cause...in the meantime turn off the TV, get off the Cell Phone, try to focus on what the one civic issue you are passionate about and shake your groove thing.
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It certainly is a Democratic thing, and a Liberal Democratic thing at that.
You even had to exclude Pro Life groups that wanted to show solidarity in opposing Trump less you blemish your ideological purity.
"Organizers of the Women’s March remove pro-life group from list of partners"
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/17/organizers-of-the-...
You even had to exclude Pro Life groups that wanted to show solidarity in opposing Trump less you blemish your ideological purity.
"Organizers of the Women’s March remove pro-life group from list of partners"
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/17/organizers-of-the-...
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Not big on pro-life....not big on the bastardization of "liberal" (OED definition) As a woman you choose it's your right...not an entitlement
At the risk of sounding like I'm man-splaining things, I have one observation and two suggestions.
The observation - conservative social media is portraying the march as an millions of women marching for the right to murder their babies. I find this portrayal sickening, but it lets conservatives feel they have the right to ignore the real issues the march was about. And it weakens the movement.
The suggestions: 1. We need to abandon the term "reproductive rights" and reposition it as "family health."
2. The real power is economic. The new administration will ignore and then mock the marchers. But, if corporate supporters start finding themselves hurt for supporting the priorities of the new administration, then maybe progress can be made in spite of the new administration.
The observation - conservative social media is portraying the march as an millions of women marching for the right to murder their babies. I find this portrayal sickening, but it lets conservatives feel they have the right to ignore the real issues the march was about. And it weakens the movement.
The suggestions: 1. We need to abandon the term "reproductive rights" and reposition it as "family health."
2. The real power is economic. The new administration will ignore and then mock the marchers. But, if corporate supporters start finding themselves hurt for supporting the priorities of the new administration, then maybe progress can be made in spite of the new administration.
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I'm sick of the term "mansplaining." Your explanation and comments are right on target in my (female) mind!
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The real issue is our Bill of Rights and that includes freedom of religion and from religious coercion. Trump is a fascist. So are those that back his views. We should not modify our message to accommodate them. They are our enemies. They hate us and that's why they back Trump. They don't even care that he's a traitor and a crook. We need to concentrate our energy to get our people in office. That is all any politician will heed. They fear our numbers. The reality of the march was in our flesh and blood numbers on the streets.
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Thanks. I'm sick of the term too,.
It was great to see so many people discussing a number of important issues at the women's marches, but our priority as women should still be on issues that are the most important to women specifically, such as reproductive freedom, the gender pay gap, sexual harassment, sexual violence, and domestic violence. We are still short of our goals on these issues and it's important to keep our focus.
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I disagree. Let's not let the Right Wing play divide and conquer anymore. I marched, not for women's rights, but for my country. All of us.
"The March on Washington brought together hundreds of thousands on the National Mall. A question remains: Now what?"
"Millions march in opposition to war in Iraq. A question remains: Now what?"
"Rosa Parks is arrested in Birmingham and a 26-year-old minister, alongside many others, is calling for a boycott of the buses there. A question remains: Now what?"
"Abraham Lincoln elected president despite not even being listed on the ballot in several Southern states. A question remains: Now what?"
"Millions march in opposition to war in Iraq. A question remains: Now what?"
"Rosa Parks is arrested in Birmingham and a 26-year-old minister, alongside many others, is calling for a boycott of the buses there. A question remains: Now what?"
"Abraham Lincoln elected president despite not even being listed on the ballot in several Southern states. A question remains: Now what?"
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I believe it's important to demonstrate - peacefully - but leave your placards and trash behind - really! Goes a long way toward invalidating the demonstration.
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There are dangers in mass protests that are unfocused. Some, like Occupy Wall Street, simply collapse under their own weight as people realize that generalized anger and discontent, without clearly identified goals end up accomplishing nothing. In others, and this is even more dangerous, we see the "Arab Spring" model, where highly disorganized groups of people with many varied complaints, some of which are valid, find their cause usurped by more organized groups promoting a specific agenda, for purposes that do not meet the general good of the people (you can stop reading here if you think the Muslim Brotherhood really helped solve the problems in Egypt). There are undoubtedly some trends in the early days of the Trump Administration which are causes of concern, such as an assault on a free press (although the press often doesn't do much to help its own position here), or an assault of hard won reproductive rights of women, or mass deportations of people who pose no threat to America, or making sure that religion does not become a strong force in public education. However, the mass diverse protests do not do the trick. Focus on an issue and advocate for your position. Don't assume politicians will just figure it out by looking at marches like those this weekend. They won't.
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The mass protest is a politically isolating activity. No amount of liberal "Street Fest" will cause Trump's supporters to abandon him. In fact, it will grow their numbers, and strengthen their resolve.
The fact, that these events make for good headlines, is unfortunate; it makes it easy for the NY Times to continue witting articles that do not delve into the real issue - taking control of the Democratic Party away from the Clinton/Debbie Wasserman crowd.
The only other alternative is the creation of a new party.
If one of these actions doesn't take place, it will be Trump, Trump, Pence, Pence - assuming that these two "zero-soul business puppets", could rule for 16 years, and not blow up the world in a nuclear holocaust.
The fact, that these events make for good headlines, is unfortunate; it makes it easy for the NY Times to continue witting articles that do not delve into the real issue - taking control of the Democratic Party away from the Clinton/Debbie Wasserman crowd.
The only other alternative is the creation of a new party.
If one of these actions doesn't take place, it will be Trump, Trump, Pence, Pence - assuming that these two "zero-soul business puppets", could rule for 16 years, and not blow up the world in a nuclear holocaust.
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Bernites and their self-destructive sepuku of the Democratic party helped give us Trump. It's time to focus. Most of us on this march were for Hillary and voted for her. If Bernie was the nominee we would have voted for him. Give it a rest and come together. We have much bigger fish to fry.
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No - the strategy and tactics that failed in 2016, will also fail during the 2018 midterm elections.
Sanders was a whistle blower; he wasn't the problem.
The big city, "We'll show the deplorables" attitude would be fine, if the only states in the nation that get to vote were New York and California - but there are 48 other voting states.
All those serfs, peasants and "proles" out there...on the plains, in the badlands, on semi-arid farms, up in the mountains, in factories grinding to a halt...have signalled that they are "not going to take it" any more.
What kind of an idiot would have keep telling them that their guns have to be taken away? The problems of our great Metropoles, are not their problems.
They are not in the least bit impressed by the "celebrities" the Democratic Regulars keep dragging up on the stage. They listen to a different kind of music, and they will not march to the Debbie Wasserman drumbeat.
Nobody needed a fancy Harvard Education to know that the Clinton's were running an international slush fund.
For the DNC, it's a Charles Darwin issue - change, or face extinction.
Sanders was a whistle blower; he wasn't the problem.
The big city, "We'll show the deplorables" attitude would be fine, if the only states in the nation that get to vote were New York and California - but there are 48 other voting states.
All those serfs, peasants and "proles" out there...on the plains, in the badlands, on semi-arid farms, up in the mountains, in factories grinding to a halt...have signalled that they are "not going to take it" any more.
What kind of an idiot would have keep telling them that their guns have to be taken away? The problems of our great Metropoles, are not their problems.
They are not in the least bit impressed by the "celebrities" the Democratic Regulars keep dragging up on the stage. They listen to a different kind of music, and they will not march to the Debbie Wasserman drumbeat.
Nobody needed a fancy Harvard Education to know that the Clinton's were running an international slush fund.
For the DNC, it's a Charles Darwin issue - change, or face extinction.
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Please check your facts. Conservative estimates put the number at 2.9 million people marching, and higher estimates put it as high as four million.
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What next?
Follow up with all your state and federal reps in an email or a phone call 1. Why you marched and 2. what you expect of your reps.
What the heck. Send your scarves and hats to them. Love the signs left in DC.
Share your pictures from the marches on social media tagging your representatives
Support newspapers, radio stations, podcasts, websites, etc that will have to do the hard lifting. Assume there will be NO Transparency. There is not even a hint so far.
Do something local. Meet your reps. Start learning how to participate.
I've been warning younger women that the rights our mothers and us fought for have been slipping away. We thought we had it done. It's undone.
Back to work.
Follow up with all your state and federal reps in an email or a phone call 1. Why you marched and 2. what you expect of your reps.
What the heck. Send your scarves and hats to them. Love the signs left in DC.
Share your pictures from the marches on social media tagging your representatives
Support newspapers, radio stations, podcasts, websites, etc that will have to do the hard lifting. Assume there will be NO Transparency. There is not even a hint so far.
Do something local. Meet your reps. Start learning how to participate.
I've been warning younger women that the rights our mothers and us fought for have been slipping away. We thought we had it done. It's undone.
Back to work.
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Women should retain the right to have abortions; if they get pregnant then whatever they want to do the baby is their choice.
But it would be sensible to have safe sex to avoid getting pregnant and diseases.
Rape is different from careless sex.
But it would be sensible to have safe sex to avoid getting pregnant and diseases.
Rape is different from careless sex.
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Yes rape is not careless sex and therefore an abortion is the right thing to do if the women doesn't want the child,
Saying this i believe this choice is only permitted in the first 24 weeks after conception like all women have and a woman should not have this choice after 24 weeks even if she is raped.
Saying this i believe this choice is only permitted in the first 24 weeks after conception like all women have and a woman should not have this choice after 24 weeks even if she is raped.
I read where one comment called for a Men's March Against Trump. What is needed is the Real Men's March For Trump. Go, men, go! Thank you.
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There was that "Wall of Meat" there at the Inauguration.
Maybe those guys can be your rapid response group.
From the photos I saw of them, they were pretty beefy. You'd only need about a dozen or so to fill up a large outside space. Maybe that's why Trump thought there were millions of people out there on the Mall Friday.
Maybe those guys can be your rapid response group.
From the photos I saw of them, they were pretty beefy. You'd only need about a dozen or so to fill up a large outside space. Maybe that's why Trump thought there were millions of people out there on the Mall Friday.
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There were quite a number of "real men" who participated in this past weekend's marches, demonstrating their opposition to Trump and everything he stands for. All the "real men" I know think he's is a walking disgrace. But if you're so anxious to see a march for Trump take place, go ahead and organize one. Will it be huge? Somehow I doubt it.
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The donald and Co. do not recognize that nearly 3 million more Americans voted for Hillary than for him. Even when faced with the vision of hundreds of thousands marching in the street, he still speaks ONLY to his supporters. This leads me to believe that he has no intention of being the president of all Americans, only his deplorables. We must remind them constantly through letters, calls, and demonstrations that he needs to face the REAL reality.
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Next up; April 15th protest (sorry tea partiers, 4/15 ain't just for you) to signal he simply has to release his taxes.
Stay tuned!
Stay tuned!
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The women's movement needs to step out of their own bubble and embrace conservative women - we do not feel welcome.
Apparently the women who create these movements, organizations and protests have no problem with, for instance, the oxymoron "I'm Catholic and pro-choice" but can't understand any woman who says "I'm a feminist and pro-life". I find this an interesting compartmentalism. I'm not Catholic or pro-life, I'm merely remarking on an issue brought up in a NYT article. But it seems unless you are willing to pick up the banner of all out liberal dogma, there is no place for you in the feminist world.
There is nothing un-feminist about a woman who chooses to stay at home or who embraces roles women have held in the past. Not all of us aspire to become CEO's. This in no way disparages those who seek those positions. Yet there is a strong undercurrent that those who choose to be "traditional" are somehow held hostage to an abusive system, that they have been brainwashed to accept a lesser life. Those who want women to advance in every possible way must acknowledge that some women prefer a simpler life outside of those ideals, realize that demanding compensation for housework or childrearing only makes sense to those who measure their lives by the money they make or title they hold.
Not all of us need those things to be happy.
Apparently the women who create these movements, organizations and protests have no problem with, for instance, the oxymoron "I'm Catholic and pro-choice" but can't understand any woman who says "I'm a feminist and pro-life". I find this an interesting compartmentalism. I'm not Catholic or pro-life, I'm merely remarking on an issue brought up in a NYT article. But it seems unless you are willing to pick up the banner of all out liberal dogma, there is no place for you in the feminist world.
There is nothing un-feminist about a woman who chooses to stay at home or who embraces roles women have held in the past. Not all of us aspire to become CEO's. This in no way disparages those who seek those positions. Yet there is a strong undercurrent that those who choose to be "traditional" are somehow held hostage to an abusive system, that they have been brainwashed to accept a lesser life. Those who want women to advance in every possible way must acknowledge that some women prefer a simpler life outside of those ideals, realize that demanding compensation for housework or childrearing only makes sense to those who measure their lives by the money they make or title they hold.
Not all of us need those things to be happy.
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Sadly, a lot of people's perceptions is created by media and/or by only a few encounters or examples. I think there are a lot more "feminists" (male and female) who embrace differences than you are imagining there are. Sure some are purely about "reproductive rights" as their cause but others are about the environment, healthcare for all, equal pay/status/opportunity, and the right to choose your own lifestyle with regard to work in or out of the home. I don't know a single woman that doesn't respect that choice. Choice is the operative word. So for those conservatives who wish for "the good old days when a woman could stay home" - no one objects to that as long as it is a choice and not a demand from a patriarchal regime. If economics are such that you can manage that, great. For most of us that hasn't been an option since the 60's. Other women prefer work because it gives them a sense of self-worth or achievement to be contributing in a different way - isn't that OK too? I adored my kids but never saw them as an extension of myself - work outside the home made me a better mother. That isn't true for all, nor is the reverse.
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Interesting - I struggle with the idea of being feminist and pro-life. I don' t understand how a woman could support legislation that takes choices away from other women. I don't mind that you are pro-life at all, but I have a hard time with people that support legislation that takes the right to control her body away from a woman. To me, that goes against part of what the parade was about: empowering women. If you support something that limits the rights of another woman, why would you be invited? Unless, you respect the wisdom of all women and their need to make a private choice - and be pro=choice.
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Whatever the purpose of the march, women were used as tools to push some agenda. The end result is nothing. The march was a media festival, and accomplished nothing. To potest against a president who is a womanizer, we'd have to go back in time. I seriously doubt Trump hates women.
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Uh, No. This was not a "potest"- this was America talking back.
3X the number of Trump supporters at the inauguration. It was massive and it just started.
3X the number of Trump supporters at the inauguration. It was massive and it just started.
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Oh boy did you ever miss the point! Or should I say points - plural. This march was **for** many things -- most of which were not things that Trump and his entourage/cronies/regime support. So in that regard, of course it is anti-Trump. Some of those things that marchers marched "for" include: Equal rights for all people; healthcare; right to self-determination;freedom of speech; freedom of the press, freedom of religion and from religious tyranny (and all other kinds of tyranny -- it appears that we are embarking upon an age of tyranny); peace, kindness (imagine having to make signs to promote kindness - this is because Trump has demonstrated and encouraged the opposite). I don't give a rat's rear end whether or not Trump hates women or claims there is no group he respects more or that he has more respect for them than anyone else in the world (things he claims about multiple groups, even the CIA). Words matter when they are believable and/or when they are nasty but most of his boasts are so over-stated and repetitive that they are useless. Actions prove more. (Incidentally, look at how he treats his wife - an acquisition, versus his daughter - an extension of himself). We are not about to second guess what's "in his heart." That is purely dysfunctional.
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If I was "used" at all, it was by organizations that have an agenda that I support. That's not being used! That's standing up for what I believe in in an organized fashion. Stop denying women agency over their own voices and beliefs. We are not blind sheep, we are awake and roaring.
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Great to see the participation not sure I agree with all that was said but this is what makes our country great. Being to be able to have your voices heard.
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No politician is going to save us, Not the Bernie Sanders. Not the liberal Democrats. We have to resist, We have to educate and organize. Organized protests will leave deep scars, and is one way of effecting policy change in the present government we have in power. And the protest has to be long, deep and continuously.
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I've been hammering home this point ever since Trump was elected. This is an perfect opportunity, not a catastrophe. This is the watershed.
Trump did not rise to this position on anything but a powerful urge from deep within the nation to change the status quo. He doesn't lead the surge. He never did. And now that he holds the highest office in the land, he has no idea what to do. The movement to really change the status quo can now proceed without him. In fact the more deranged he becomes the more impetus he gives to those who still need an impetus.
Get involved at any level you can. Hit the streets. Do it forcefully and peacefully. Trump's obsession with law and order plays into the Patriot Act handbook that far too many law and order types would like to invoke in the face of any resistance to established power.
This has been coming for a long time and the time is ripe to take a stand and make your move. As a Canadian who has followed events in your country for a long time I say, we are with you. We live, prosper, or fail as you do. I was proud this weekend.
Trump did not rise to this position on anything but a powerful urge from deep within the nation to change the status quo. He doesn't lead the surge. He never did. And now that he holds the highest office in the land, he has no idea what to do. The movement to really change the status quo can now proceed without him. In fact the more deranged he becomes the more impetus he gives to those who still need an impetus.
Get involved at any level you can. Hit the streets. Do it forcefully and peacefully. Trump's obsession with law and order plays into the Patriot Act handbook that far too many law and order types would like to invoke in the face of any resistance to established power.
This has been coming for a long time and the time is ripe to take a stand and make your move. As a Canadian who has followed events in your country for a long time I say, we are with you. We live, prosper, or fail as you do. I was proud this weekend.
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It was clearly a success. Hotel owners, Bus Companies, Airlines, Restaurants, probably some comfy shoe makers and apparently specialty hat makers all benefited. Thanks for contributing to the American economy, every little bit helps.
Now go home and get back to work. You have to pay for your obamacare premium.
Now go home and get back to work. You have to pay for your obamacare premium.
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One thing for sure that will NOT work is putting our hopes, i.e., the hopes of women, men, children of all our diversity, fighting for our rights to freedom, justice and equality, in the hands of the Democratic Party or any party that does not challenge capitalism itself. The system of capitalism is designed to enslave working people to serve the needs of the capitalist class. That's how eight men have wound up owning more wealth than half the world's population put together! We have to transcend capitalism--create a new world of economic and social justice and equality for all--democratically controlled by all of us, not by the wealthy elite whose only goal is to get even richer. We need to create a new world based upon production for the wants and needs of all the world's people not for private profits for the tiny, tiny few. How is it rational for eight men to have more wealth than half the world's population put together? It's insane! Capitalism is insanity. Socialism is the only rational system to transcend capitalism. And it is up to us to devote ourselves to that goal. Lesser evil politics has gotten us nothing but more evil! It will drive us back to barbarism if we don't transcend capitalism and create a new and just world for the good of all and the planet we share!
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???
When has there been a successful socialist society?
When has there been a successful socialist society?
One thing to do "next" is to remember who participated and be informed by what that reveals in elections going forward. Bernie participated in Montpelier. Hillary was a no-show in NYC, in DC, everywhere, only deigning to dedicate 140 characters to the event.
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What, Hillary can't be a part of your inclusive party?
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Why malign HRC? "Deigning" is a loaded word and so unnecessary.
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You seem to be ignorant of the political situation and impact that would have occurred had she been involved. Get real. While I would have loved to see her face, that would only have added more ammunition for the haters to claim the march was sour grapes or that it was a pro-Hillary march. It wasn't. There is no doubt in my mind she approved. I have no idea whether she will do more politically or not (my guess is no). Eventually she can participate more as a citizen. Bernie is in a different category.
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I was proud to be in D.C. with my wife, sister, and nieces in patriotic support of women's rights, and all rights. Proud to represent the endless list of Americans maligned by President Trump and his administration on their destructive and divisive path to the White House. The women (and many men and children) in D.C., were clearly hot in protest and unified in demand for an expansion of women's rights in the face and very real threat of their limit. Hot, like molten metal, I hope when cooled, our composition proves more steel than iron, more flexible than brittle, more long-lasting, more pointed, and more highly shaped into an effective tool of long-term protest and measurable results. I hope, that on January 21, 2017, women offered America a newly born third party. A party of inclusion, nurturing and caring. A party representative of those who cannot represent themselves. A party for this generation, and a party for those generations whose voice is not yet formed and not yet heard. As one sign noted, "I'm here because of her!"
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Who gets to be a member of your Party of Inclusion, Nurturing and Caring?
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I still wish someone could explain the point of all of this. On November 8th there was a much larger march...all across America...and Trump won. This looks like nothing more than whining about defeat. It didn't change minds...except maybe the left leaning independents who were embarrassed by the Hollywood speeches.
So what EXACTLY was the point of the march? It certainly won't change anything on Trumps agenda, nor should it. In the 50 state marches that took place last year...he won.
I also don't remember this nonsense when Bill Clinton won in '92 and '96. In both years he did not win the majority of the votes cast.
So what EXACTLY was the point of the march? It certainly won't change anything on Trumps agenda, nor should it. In the 50 state marches that took place last year...he won.
I also don't remember this nonsense when Bill Clinton won in '92 and '96. In both years he did not win the majority of the votes cast.
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You are mistaken. Bill Clinton won the popular vote in both '92 and '96.
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Bill Clinton won the popular vote. Trump did not - by a huge number. This march was largely "for" a lot of different things that Trump and company/entourage/regime has shown no interest in or is against. This is not whining about an election. It is marching for rights: civil, healthcare, voting, 1st amendment (free speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion and from religious tyranny). People were marching for freedom from tyranny (an era that sure seems likely given his actions). The march was democracy in action.
I would like to suggest a Platform of Three:
- Universal single-payer health care
- A woman's right to choose
- Aggressively fighting climate change (the most vital of all)
Surely we can all get behind those three. While other issues can and should be supported as well, focusing on those three will go a long way towards promoting the health and well-being of our country.
- Universal single-payer health care
- A woman's right to choose
- Aggressively fighting climate change (the most vital of all)
Surely we can all get behind those three. While other issues can and should be supported as well, focusing on those three will go a long way towards promoting the health and well-being of our country.
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Rather than just focusing on a woman's right to choose, I think we should broaden it to simply bodily autonomy. This includes a woman's right to choose, an adult's right to consume marijuana, a prisoner's right to not be tortured, a patient's right to access quality healthcare and also not have big pharma pushed on them for profit if the drugs aren't solving the medical issues, a human's right to not breathe pollution or drink poison in their water. We only seem to agree with bodily autonomy when it's convenient for corporate profits; people are allowed to literally eat themselves to death, drink away their lives, take one faulty prescription drug after another. No one seems to argue with the right to be sick or make health choices that prevent or reduce economic growth. As a people and a party, we need to sell the right to be healthy and empowered to make health decisions that affect our economic opportunities.
The larger non-profit groups need to united and organize a focused plan for each of their respective areas (i.e., environment, health care, etc.). They need to pool their resources to sue the government and create counter legislation that will stop the congress from destroying our rights. They need to stop the flow of money from big corporations to the members of congress. We can see no real change until this happens.
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What has started with the Women's March has to continue in the meantime with activism in all organizations and causes that were the root of each individual's participation.
Also, I would highly recommend that organizers start working on a "100 Days March" NOW. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of material with which to work by that time and the pressure needs to maintained that the present state of affairs is NOT okay...
Also, I would highly recommend that organizers start working on a "100 Days March" NOW. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of material with which to work by that time and the pressure needs to maintained that the present state of affairs is NOT okay...
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Why was it called 'The Women's March ..." in the interest of accuracy,
isn't it better termed, "The Democratic Women's March..." ? Do you really think there were any GOP women marching?
isn't it better termed, "The Democratic Women's March..." ? Do you really think there were any GOP women marching?
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There is a tide in the affairs of men, Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat. And we must take the current when it serves, or lose our ventures.
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Women marching to let the world know their preferred liberal stereotype. When is the womens march against the Islamic States? When is the womens march against the Rap/HipHop industry? When is the womens march against decades of Hollywood objectification?... Not happening? you are just protesting those evil family oriented conservatives?....shocker.
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Perhaps you need to organize something.....
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Why do you DISTRACT away from the topic of this article - the momentous, world-wide, history making march on Saturday?
I suggest you leave the distraction to professionals Kellyanne and Spicer, though the press is finally on to their lies and tactics...
I suggest you leave the distraction to professionals Kellyanne and Spicer, though the press is finally on to their lies and tactics...
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I didn't read anything to imply that the Dems have the slightest idea what to do. I'm as liberal as the day is long and I'm horrified at the confused and hysterical behavior, the complete lack of forward thinking, the weird lack of adaptability.
The fundamental privileges of American citizenship (Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid/ACA, public education, veterans' services, etc.) are not feminist issues. They're American rights and they must be defended.
So stand up, make some new allies, choose a fight and start fighting!
History won't judge you on your color or gender or who you voted for. But on what you do next.
The fundamental privileges of American citizenship (Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid/ACA, public education, veterans' services, etc.) are not feminist issues. They're American rights and they must be defended.
So stand up, make some new allies, choose a fight and start fighting!
History won't judge you on your color or gender or who you voted for. But on what you do next.
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What's next is that you don't stop. The article pointed out exactly what the mistake was last time around after 2008. We all just assumed we were on a better track automatically.
Organize this kind of thing constantly. And bombard your local representative and senator with simple and straightforward communication on what you want. Develop an unified message, then make sure everyone is using that same message. It seems like something that doesn't make sense in this technology age, but that's still how many of them communicate and judge their constituents' opinion of themselves.
And finally, UNITE and pick a constant message. Don't disengage just because the movement isn't exactly what you want.
Please, I don't want to read about this in 6 months and wonder where all the passion went.
Organize this kind of thing constantly. And bombard your local representative and senator with simple and straightforward communication on what you want. Develop an unified message, then make sure everyone is using that same message. It seems like something that doesn't make sense in this technology age, but that's still how many of them communicate and judge their constituents' opinion of themselves.
And finally, UNITE and pick a constant message. Don't disengage just because the movement isn't exactly what you want.
Please, I don't want to read about this in 6 months and wonder where all the passion went.
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3x married, 5x draft dodger, 100x bankrupter/lawsuit kingpin
Consistent message very important.
Second part of message - what we want, next steps.
I'm making plans to go to the April 15th tax march, to demand DT release his tax returns. As Gloria Steinem said, DT election is a wake up call to anybody who values democracy, and Sanity in the White House. I am hopeful the two will not become mutually exclusive.
Who could have imagined that a snowball from Hawaii could have morphed into an avalanche that would swallow the capitol.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill, Nov. 1942
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." W. Churchill, Nov. 1942
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There's way too much emphasis on the Democratic Party here. The party has many assets, but there is no way it can be allowed to have leadership. It does
NOT speak and never has spoken for "the left". Until it goes through a major transformation, it will remain what it has been since 1964 when it was abandoned by the unreconstructed racists: the softer, gentler guiding hand of the globalizing international finance sector.
The unifying vision is to reduce inequality and make more of the resources of our society available for control by democratic processes. That requires building a viable democracy extending far beyond political parties and far beyond the mechanisms of federal, state, and local governments.
That's the long term unifier - if we can make it work. (The idiot elite 0.1% will do everything possible to derail it.).
Short term unity is easy. trimp will unify everyone against him - and that is easily linked to anti-fascism.
NOT speak and never has spoken for "the left". Until it goes through a major transformation, it will remain what it has been since 1964 when it was abandoned by the unreconstructed racists: the softer, gentler guiding hand of the globalizing international finance sector.
The unifying vision is to reduce inequality and make more of the resources of our society available for control by democratic processes. That requires building a viable democracy extending far beyond political parties and far beyond the mechanisms of federal, state, and local governments.
That's the long term unifier - if we can make it work. (The idiot elite 0.1% will do everything possible to derail it.).
Short term unity is easy. trimp will unify everyone against him - and that is easily linked to anti-fascism.
Next up:
* Men's March against Trump
* People of Disabilities' March against Trump
* Immigrants' March against Trump
* Muslims' March against Trump
* Middle Class's March against Trump
* Lower Class's March against Trump
* LGBTs' March against Trump
* Psychiatrists' March against Trump
* NATO's March against Trump
* Twitter's March against Trump
* ...
* Men's March against Trump
* People of Disabilities' March against Trump
* Immigrants' March against Trump
* Muslims' March against Trump
* Middle Class's March against Trump
* Lower Class's March against Trump
* LGBTs' March against Trump
* Psychiatrists' March against Trump
* NATO's March against Trump
* Twitter's March against Trump
* ...
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I guess you didn't notice that they were all there.
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Ken, YES!
One of my favorite signs from the Austin march was "Where do I start?"
One of my favorite signs from the Austin march was "Where do I start?"
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Greetings Lawrence --
Sorry, didn't notice NATO there. However, I like your chutzpah!
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
Sorry, didn't notice NATO there. However, I like your chutzpah!
KEEP THE PROTEST ALIVE!
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The first issue that should be studied is why Trump was elected. Where were all these women then. So far they have proven themselves as totally ineffective.
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What's next is a resounding GOP rout at the polls in 2018.
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The big womens march turnout cannot be compared to the tea party agitation since it was motivated only by an amorphous disgust for Donald Trump the man rather than any political agenda expressed as a list of demands. I beleive the liberal press is going to be disappointed on this one.
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Only motivated by an amorphous disgust for Donald Trump? No. Sorry. We're motivated by a lot more than that.
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I disagree. The Media went out of its way to delegitimize the Tea Party by focusing on the most extreme elements and extrapolating it to the entire group. By contrast, the media sanitized images of some truly reprehensible stuff and imputed only good intentions on the demonstrators.
Donald Trump gained a lot of credibility because of overt media bias, and the media seems determined to continue to play into his hands.
Donald Trump gained a lot of credibility because of overt media bias, and the media seems determined to continue to play into his hands.
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Although many women were marching, I would label this an anti-Trump march.
I believe that most participants had womens' rights in mind and protested against the misogynist President.
It should however be food for thought that one of the organizers was Linda Sarsour, who believes in Sharia law and not in equality for women!
I believe that most participants had womens' rights in mind and protested against the misogynist President.
It should however be food for thought that one of the organizers was Linda Sarsour, who believes in Sharia law and not in equality for women!
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I is important that expectations be reasonable. The march was a great start, but achieving change is going to take years. The conservative movement which may have reached its peak in 2016, actually started in 1980 with Reagan. Progressive need to establish themselves as mainstream people rather than a collection of fringe groups. Some of the actions described are a good start. Finding funds to sustain the effort with dedicated staff is important. The Koch brothers provide a model, but trying to match their resources is unrealistic. Progressives will have to be smarter and more innovative to achieve results going against the tide of oligarchs in the Koch cabal.
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This article asks a probing question, but seems to miss all the grassroots and local organizing that is happening through social media. This past weekend was an energy. We'll push on.
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As much as the puppet dictator who is currently president disgusts and sickens me, I reserve the full force of my anger and rage for the Republican Party. Their profound hypocrisy as they claim to be defenders of the Constitution while they systematically destroy the fabric of our democracy is repugnant. As the dying gasp of the white majority, they can win only with the help of voter suppression, illegal gerrymandering and lying over and over again to the American people. Tell a lie long enough, it starts to sound like the truth. The Red party has proven, ever since Ken Starr's incredible waste of taxpayer money, that they are masters of spin and distortion. They took that victory and ran with it. What to do next? Pay attention to North Carolina where the State Supreme Court ruled the 2010 gerrymandering was illegal, racially motivated and unduly burdened Democrats. The decision requires a redrawing of district lines in March 2017 and a new election for a defined number of districts in Nov. 2017. In December I saw Dallas Woodhouse, chair of the NC Rep. party smugly declare that won't happen. A couple of weeks ago a small article appeared stating the Federal Supreme Court has put that decision on hold. That decision is a barometer of whether democracy exists at all. We need to pay attention. We have no choice but to take to the streets. Democratic party leaders need to be there in the streets with us. This tragedy will force the Democratic party to embrace its grassroots.
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We are mobilizing in NC. Keep an eye on up and comer Senator Jeff Jackson.
It it were all that much of a success, there'd have been an overthrow and Mrs. Clinton would be President now. But short of that, as the saying goes, you GO, girls (sorry--women)!
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This march made Trump lose over half his power abroad. We need people representing us to bring this message to the floor of congress.
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I live in one of the reddest counties in Texas. But the population of the county is growing. Ranches are being divided up into subdivisions, all kinds of people are moving in. The local Democratic party here needs money to open old fashioned "precinct" offices in neighborhoods. Those offices need to be manned by a combination of volunteers and a paid staff or two. We need to be visible and in neighborhoods. We need to have Saturday hot dogs and ice cream parties. We need to get to understand the needs of the people and they need to get to know us and our values. I have often felt if people talk about issues, one at a time, there is more agreement than disagreement. But it takes money to be visible and the national Democratic party has ignored us.
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I'm not sure how many of the Democratic leadership who boycotted the inauguration attended these marches or met with the leaders. Alignment with leadership helps cement support for grass root initiatives to flourish, taking the energy from these marches and translating them into action. The organizers of these marches focused on various issues women and men had with Trump, but I'm sure there were people who are pro life who also voted against Trump that need a voice in this march. Education and outreach is the only way to be inclusive and representative of all our concerns. This movement cannot stop.
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The marches were spectacular, but they were wasted.
With millions of people in the streets across the country, not a single demand was made clear.
Whoever is organizing this needs to focus everybody's attention on one major issue where a specific action can be taken to begin to remedy the problem. And remember that it is foolish to focus on policy when the foundations of Democracy are crumbling. Aim high.
My recommendation is to start with Trump's tax returns. Demand their release.
It's simple, clear, and bi-partisan with potentially enormous impacts.
With millions of people in the streets across the country, not a single demand was made clear.
Whoever is organizing this needs to focus everybody's attention on one major issue where a specific action can be taken to begin to remedy the problem. And remember that it is foolish to focus on policy when the foundations of Democracy are crumbling. Aim high.
My recommendation is to start with Trump's tax returns. Demand their release.
It's simple, clear, and bi-partisan with potentially enormous impacts.
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"Whoever is organizing this needs to focus everybody's attention on one major issue where a specific action can be taken to begin to remedy the problem."......You inadvertently put your finger on the most important element. YOU need to focus YOIUR attention on one major issue, and YOU need to take specific action to begin to remedy the problem.
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Please tell me, what was the one major issue the Tea Party focused on? Did the fact that they didn't have one keep them from wielding influence?
A similar march demanding his taxes is in the works for April 15. Mark your calendar.
I marched in Tucson.
15,000 old people, young people, jubilant people, scared people. Pro choice, pro life, You name it -- every stripe of person.
What do we do now? CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE every week and tell them what you care about.
The number -- 202-224-3121 -- connects you with a person who will connect you to your congressional representative's office.
Protect my healthcare? CALL THEM!
Protect the rights of women and all minorities? CALL THEM!
Protect my right to choose? CALL THEM!
Equal pay for equal work? CALL THEM!
No bigots or billionaires packing the Cabinet? CALL THEM!
No right wing appointees to the Supreme Court? CALL THEM!
Whatever you care about -- PICK UP THE PHONE!
15,000 old people, young people, jubilant people, scared people. Pro choice, pro life, You name it -- every stripe of person.
What do we do now? CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE every week and tell them what you care about.
The number -- 202-224-3121 -- connects you with a person who will connect you to your congressional representative's office.
Protect my healthcare? CALL THEM!
Protect the rights of women and all minorities? CALL THEM!
Protect my right to choose? CALL THEM!
Equal pay for equal work? CALL THEM!
No bigots or billionaires packing the Cabinet? CALL THEM!
No right wing appointees to the Supreme Court? CALL THEM!
Whatever you care about -- PICK UP THE PHONE!
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I marched in Tucson too. Beautiful gathering. And we began organizing the minute the march ended. We must protect our rights as women, absolutely, but also to save and secure the values this country is built on -- those are not the values of "alternative facts" or a government that is of and for billionaires. Our group is sending around tips on how best to engage our legislators; we're calling and emailing Jeff Flake and John McCain. This is not a one-time event; it is a movement that will continue to grow. We are watching! We are participating. Many of us have done this before. And we succeeded then, too.
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What's next?
In Michigan there is a group that split off into a state activist organization from the Pantsuit Nation when they became a non-profit. We in Michigan, the state that knows something about activism and organizing chose to be activists. We have over 28,000 members.
Many were active before in politics, but the majority were not. We are basically doing many of the things that President Obama and others have said........
Making calls daily to federal and state representatives about anything that takes away or inhibits rights. Letters are nice, phone calls work better. If you get a full voicemail, call again later or tomorrow.
Join local progressive groups that represent your views. In most instances it's the state or local Democratic Party. Annual dues are not expensive (less than $50 in most cases).
Attend state or local level meetings and conventions. Most have caucus groups that will represent your primary interests. If not, inquire into whether you can create one.
Don't believe in polls. Build better polls and actually talk to neighbors door to door once your group gets organized.
When you are part of the solution you become part of the answer. The internet is an amazing thing and when you search for like-minded individuals you can find them and become active.
A grandmother in Hawaii asked a few friends to protest with her. It resulted in a multi-million force that spread across the globe. One person can make a difference when others are involved.
In Michigan there is a group that split off into a state activist organization from the Pantsuit Nation when they became a non-profit. We in Michigan, the state that knows something about activism and organizing chose to be activists. We have over 28,000 members.
Many were active before in politics, but the majority were not. We are basically doing many of the things that President Obama and others have said........
Making calls daily to federal and state representatives about anything that takes away or inhibits rights. Letters are nice, phone calls work better. If you get a full voicemail, call again later or tomorrow.
Join local progressive groups that represent your views. In most instances it's the state or local Democratic Party. Annual dues are not expensive (less than $50 in most cases).
Attend state or local level meetings and conventions. Most have caucus groups that will represent your primary interests. If not, inquire into whether you can create one.
Don't believe in polls. Build better polls and actually talk to neighbors door to door once your group gets organized.
When you are part of the solution you become part of the answer. The internet is an amazing thing and when you search for like-minded individuals you can find them and become active.
A grandmother in Hawaii asked a few friends to protest with her. It resulted in a multi-million force that spread across the globe. One person can make a difference when others are involved.
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Yes, don't believe in polls...they showed HC was going to win the presidency easily. The forgotten American had another idea in mind.
you said....."One person can make a difference when others get involved"....???
What?
This is just like most of the rhetoric I heard over the last few days.
What?
This is just like most of the rhetoric I heard over the last few days.
The only Womens March that can claim any success is the 30 million women who marched on election day and voted for Trump!
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You caught me!
I can barely stand President Trump.
But, much more important to me is that my fellow citizens voted for him and they are MY fellow citizens. I want to understand, to care for them as much as for those who did not vote for him.
I want to somehow figure out how we can actually work together. I figure it will take more guts and humility than I've ever had to call up in my life. We are in highly changing times with some scary realities.
I'm for the USA. All of us.
I can barely stand President Trump.
But, much more important to me is that my fellow citizens voted for him and they are MY fellow citizens. I want to understand, to care for them as much as for those who did not vote for him.
I want to somehow figure out how we can actually work together. I figure it will take more guts and humility than I've ever had to call up in my life. We are in highly changing times with some scary realities.
I'm for the USA. All of us.
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Yes.
So far.
Stay tuned.
So far.
Stay tuned.
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Cynicism is completely unhelpful and obscures the difference in quantity and quality of energy that motivated the two actions wrongly compared!
The massive turn out in DC and across the nation Saturday looks very much like the start of a new political movement, something that could form the basis of a new party or a third party inside the Democrat's tent. There's a big problem. The laundry list of issues and individual complaints add up to a formula for post march dissipation and dissolution.
There are too many issues. People in this article are quoted as saying, in effect, unless my issue to number one, I'm not joining anything. Organized political action is a situation where you have to be satisfied with failing a lot of the time in the hope that dreams will be realized or at least not crushed. It requires a firm realization that a lot of the time there is no progress on what you consider most important.
Republicans have simple themes: 'We hate government and we hate taxes.' This year, they've added an extreme version of 'We hate the media' to their list. These themes resonate, particularly taxes because wages of most Americans have not kept up with inflation, so taxes become an easy, convenient, distracting target.
Plus this: there will never be anything like a hugely successful "leaderless" movement. Someone or some group has to make difficult choices among conflicting, often unpleasant options. Leaderless groups can't make those choices. The whole idea of no leaders is based on some vague idea of overthrowing the past, particularly male power, but it is no way to run a railroad. Can't be done.
There are too many issues. People in this article are quoted as saying, in effect, unless my issue to number one, I'm not joining anything. Organized political action is a situation where you have to be satisfied with failing a lot of the time in the hope that dreams will be realized or at least not crushed. It requires a firm realization that a lot of the time there is no progress on what you consider most important.
Republicans have simple themes: 'We hate government and we hate taxes.' This year, they've added an extreme version of 'We hate the media' to their list. These themes resonate, particularly taxes because wages of most Americans have not kept up with inflation, so taxes become an easy, convenient, distracting target.
Plus this: there will never be anything like a hugely successful "leaderless" movement. Someone or some group has to make difficult choices among conflicting, often unpleasant options. Leaderless groups can't make those choices. The whole idea of no leaders is based on some vague idea of overthrowing the past, particularly male power, but it is no way to run a railroad. Can't be done.
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Privilege is ignoring any issue that does not impact one personally...know this, first "they" come for them and then "they" come for you
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Dear Mr. Terry, I love your new picture and I hope that your comment proves to be inaccurate. From what I observed at the Austin march, rejecting the Trump Presidency (or revulsion of him, if you want to put it that way) is a sustaining theme.
And Mr. Trump keeps stoking the fire by continuing to lie, and apparently sending his press secretary out to lie, and then Kellyanne finally makes the big revelation: the Trump administration is going by "alternative facts," which in context means bold face lies. Just lies. This is scaring people. I think we will unify behind hating all of this lying.
And Mr. Trump keeps stoking the fire by continuing to lie, and apparently sending his press secretary out to lie, and then Kellyanne finally makes the big revelation: the Trump administration is going by "alternative facts," which in context means bold face lies. Just lies. This is scaring people. I think we will unify behind hating all of this lying.
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Err, excuse me, hello? Are you listening?
About that laundry list...: Well, for much of our history we did all of our own laundry plus your laundry, so yes of course we can tackle all of our issues and your issues! That is woman's work, cleaning up!
And I have to ask, Why is it called a "laundry list?"
The implications being: women's work, not important, annoying to do,. Perfect. Perfect timing.
Hence the Women's March incorporating and accepting ALL of our issues. Yes, we can. And... if you listen to all the issues, they all come together into one issue, HUMAN RIGHTS. Simple.
You say:
"Can't be done
you will fail
give up
too many issues
laundry list"
This is now, we will not be deterred, obstructed, we do not believe your lies, distortions, or disparaging predictions.
We say: A lot of leaderless people somehow managed to get together. the Democratic way, in peaceful, massive protest "because we are free and not constricted by your attempts to muffle our voices."
If we want things to be better for everybody, we have to close our mouths before we say things like "can't". Pause, breathe, imagine. We do not know. Sit in the middle of that feeling of 'I don't know' till we understand that we really truly honestly don't know exactly what we can achieve! Then let's get ourselves 5,000,000 women and men to work on achieving what we want.
HUMAN RIGHTS
About that laundry list...: Well, for much of our history we did all of our own laundry plus your laundry, so yes of course we can tackle all of our issues and your issues! That is woman's work, cleaning up!
And I have to ask, Why is it called a "laundry list?"
The implications being: women's work, not important, annoying to do,. Perfect. Perfect timing.
Hence the Women's March incorporating and accepting ALL of our issues. Yes, we can. And... if you listen to all the issues, they all come together into one issue, HUMAN RIGHTS. Simple.
You say:
"Can't be done
you will fail
give up
too many issues
laundry list"
This is now, we will not be deterred, obstructed, we do not believe your lies, distortions, or disparaging predictions.
We say: A lot of leaderless people somehow managed to get together. the Democratic way, in peaceful, massive protest "because we are free and not constricted by your attempts to muffle our voices."
If we want things to be better for everybody, we have to close our mouths before we say things like "can't". Pause, breathe, imagine. We do not know. Sit in the middle of that feeling of 'I don't know' till we understand that we really truly honestly don't know exactly what we can achieve! Then let's get ourselves 5,000,000 women and men to work on achieving what we want.
HUMAN RIGHTS
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I marched in Washington. It was so powerful, so happy and peaceful and joyous and loving. The best comment I heard, from a stranger walking next to me, was "THIS is my America!" It brought tears to my eyes and still does while writing this. Tears of joy.
The march was and is for all people. Yes, it was for women, all women, women of color, white women, marginalized women, immigrant women, rust belt women, inner city women, young women, old women. That is who marched: all women. It was more than that too. It was for all people and for tolerance and acceptance and equality and for creating a government that cares for, respects and supports all people (and the planet we live on).
I believe THAT is the unifying message. Women's rights, education, health care, the environment, world peace, etc. are all issues that fall under this umbrella. I am hopeful that the organizers can solidify that message with joy and respect and peace, rally people around love rather than hate. I believe that is the way forward.
(I am an elected school board member in my city and more proud than ever to serve. I will now be calling my congressmen daily at Micheal Moore's advice.)
The march was and is for all people. Yes, it was for women, all women, women of color, white women, marginalized women, immigrant women, rust belt women, inner city women, young women, old women. That is who marched: all women. It was more than that too. It was for all people and for tolerance and acceptance and equality and for creating a government that cares for, respects and supports all people (and the planet we live on).
I believe THAT is the unifying message. Women's rights, education, health care, the environment, world peace, etc. are all issues that fall under this umbrella. I am hopeful that the organizers can solidify that message with joy and respect and peace, rally people around love rather than hate. I believe that is the way forward.
(I am an elected school board member in my city and more proud than ever to serve. I will now be calling my congressmen daily at Micheal Moore's advice.)
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You had to wait for someone from Hollywood to tell you?!?
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Saturday's marches were just the start. By Sunday the energy from the marches was already starting to flow into grass-roots organizing.
We know that work at the grass roots level is what's needed. The top levels of the Democratic Party failed us last time. We don't need apparatchiks like David Brock with his fixation on wealthy donors. We need activists at the ground level, in every congressional district and every state house district around the country.
The most important marches on Saturday weren't the biggest ones, but the ones in smaller towns like Homer AK, Twisp WA, Pendleton OR and Joseph OR. They show that people are energized even in "red" congressional districts that were ignored by the old, top-down DNC leadership. New leaders are emerging from the bottom up, and we are ready to work.
We know that work at the grass roots level is what's needed. The top levels of the Democratic Party failed us last time. We don't need apparatchiks like David Brock with his fixation on wealthy donors. We need activists at the ground level, in every congressional district and every state house district around the country.
The most important marches on Saturday weren't the biggest ones, but the ones in smaller towns like Homer AK, Twisp WA, Pendleton OR and Joseph OR. They show that people are energized even in "red" congressional districts that were ignored by the old, top-down DNC leadership. New leaders are emerging from the bottom up, and we are ready to work.
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True, but there still needs to be a focus. And focusing on upcoming state elections is a good place to start. The Dem party has ignored the importance of down ticket elections and that is how the alt right is now in charge of 33 state houses. We need to mobilize and elect a new generation of leaders, who believe in government that takes care of its people, instead of destroying them.
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Jill Soffer, I agree completely, state house districts are a key place to start. That plus putting energy into swing districts for the House of Representatives. Here's one project: https://swingleft.org/
How come pink was the color of choice? Isn't that a bit stereotypical?
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Sounds like someone could use some anatomy lessons.
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The key is to win back the Senate in two years. Do that, and real resistance, real change is possible.
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Step 1: Stop propping up people like David Brock. He is a hackish political mercenary who has nothing to offer the progressive movement.
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The tremendous, grassroots-born Women's Marches and the execrable David Brock trying to raise ever more money from billionaires while touting people like Harold Ford Jr. and Al From whose appeal doesn't extend beyond the gilded walls of whatever resort this fundraiser was held at, have nothing in common, and shouldn't be casually mentioned together as they are in this article.
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Group think: the practice of thinking or making decisions as a group in a way that discourages creativity or individual responsibility.
I am a woman and I find that nobody wants to hear a different point of view: I support your right to an abortion but stop making me pay for yours.
I am a woman and I find that nobody wants to hear a different point of view: I support your right to an abortion but stop making me pay for yours.
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Who is doing that? Not Planned Parenthood. Not anyone that I know of. Please check your facts. You may find that you are quite wrong about you paying for other people's abortions.
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No federal money goes to pay for abortions therefore you can be assured that your money is not going to pay for anyone else's abortion. And thank you for supporting a woman's right to choose.
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Planned Parenthood - FactCheck.org
www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
Apr 18, 2011 - Does the federal government fund those procedures? ... The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.
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I sense distress with the "I don't want to pay for yours" meme.
No federal money can be used for abortions, so you can stop worrying about that use of tax revenue.
It kind of surprises me, this personal worrying, as if each tax payer were personally funding wide swathes of gov., when in reality, unless you're rich, your taxes couldn't sustain the office 'coffee' fund for a year, in most cases.
The grandiosity of the conservative and naysayers to taxes always astounds me. What happened to "Taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society?"
www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/
Apr 18, 2011 - Does the federal government fund those procedures? ... The group does receive federal funding, but the money cannot be used for abortions by law.
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I sense distress with the "I don't want to pay for yours" meme.
No federal money can be used for abortions, so you can stop worrying about that use of tax revenue.
It kind of surprises me, this personal worrying, as if each tax payer were personally funding wide swathes of gov., when in reality, unless you're rich, your taxes couldn't sustain the office 'coffee' fund for a year, in most cases.
The grandiosity of the conservative and naysayers to taxes always astounds me. What happened to "Taxes are the price we pay for living in a civilized society?"
I have been writing to both my senators and my congressman (McCain, Flake, Schweikert) to express my fervent opinion that they vote NO on confirmation of Sessions, DeVos, Mnuchin, and to stop the nonsense of defunding Planned Parenthood. And to stop the nonsense of repealing the ACA, that would take healthcare away for millions of vulnerable citizens.
It's easy to locate the contact email addresses for your senators and congressmen. Just Google.
Please take the time to write to each of your elected officials--they work for YOU. And write often, to express your clear opinions on these critical issues. Use your voice!
It's easy to locate the contact email addresses for your senators and congressmen. Just Google.
Please take the time to write to each of your elected officials--they work for YOU. And write often, to express your clear opinions on these critical issues. Use your voice!
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It is easy to get phone numbers and call. Do that too. Calling takes only a few minutes and is very pleasant as the people on the other end are very pleasant as they should be so call call call call
It feels good to tell MY representatives what I want!
It feels good to tell MY representatives what I want!
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Writing is OK. CALLING IS BETTER. Visiting in person is good too.
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Action? You call 202.225.3121 to contact your Congressional representatives for three minutes DAILY and you go to indivisibeguide.com for even more work.
Then you watch the lobbyists and monied class (synonymous with cabinet members), negate your democratic rights as they have done since the inception of our 'democracy.' Reference the housing crash and resultant punishments for the hedge funders who were guilty - is there anyone in DC who supports those who had no voice?
I hope I am wrong, but need proof that this time is different.
Then you watch the lobbyists and monied class (synonymous with cabinet members), negate your democratic rights as they have done since the inception of our 'democracy.' Reference the housing crash and resultant punishments for the hedge funders who were guilty - is there anyone in DC who supports those who had no voice?
I hope I am wrong, but need proof that this time is different.
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"What's next"?
I see. Women pull the biggest world-wide solidarity march involving 600 cities in 60 countries and the Times wants to know what's the next rabbit they will pull out of their kitty-ears hat?
Well, New York Times, we're not going to tell you. We're going to keep it a secret so we can blow your mind again.... and when we do, the next day, you'll ask again: What's the next rabbit you're going to pull out of your hat?
This isn't like the "Tea Party Revolution" where 10 people showed up in funny hats and, my goodness! the Press just couldn't get enough of them! At that time the streets were filled with millions, world-wide, that were screaming about Bush's War, a phony war that the Times never bothered to investigate, and, I guess that was because they were busy rhapsodizing about the 100 funny people in funny hats....
No. We're not going to tell you - and you're not really asking, are you?
You have no plan beyond printing this one article, an article that really doesn't want to examine what happened, that really isn't asking (oh, the work that that might involve!) and prints Todd Gitlin's opinion that the SDS's success "was the culmination of years of..." ignoring that today there is a wealth of electronic networking. I know: I was there, Todd, in those years. I remember "word of mouth".
No, I don't think the Times is REALLY asking: "What's next"?
I've seen the quality and quantity of articles on women they post on the majority of this country.
Dismal.
Sad.
I see. Women pull the biggest world-wide solidarity march involving 600 cities in 60 countries and the Times wants to know what's the next rabbit they will pull out of their kitty-ears hat?
Well, New York Times, we're not going to tell you. We're going to keep it a secret so we can blow your mind again.... and when we do, the next day, you'll ask again: What's the next rabbit you're going to pull out of your hat?
This isn't like the "Tea Party Revolution" where 10 people showed up in funny hats and, my goodness! the Press just couldn't get enough of them! At that time the streets were filled with millions, world-wide, that were screaming about Bush's War, a phony war that the Times never bothered to investigate, and, I guess that was because they were busy rhapsodizing about the 100 funny people in funny hats....
No. We're not going to tell you - and you're not really asking, are you?
You have no plan beyond printing this one article, an article that really doesn't want to examine what happened, that really isn't asking (oh, the work that that might involve!) and prints Todd Gitlin's opinion that the SDS's success "was the culmination of years of..." ignoring that today there is a wealth of electronic networking. I know: I was there, Todd, in those years. I remember "word of mouth".
No, I don't think the Times is REALLY asking: "What's next"?
I've seen the quality and quantity of articles on women they post on the majority of this country.
Dismal.
Sad.
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#sad? No, say you didn't end with that!
(in jest, and camaraderie only....)
(in jest, and camaraderie only....)
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Well said. Thank you.
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So your strategy is "Shhhhh," pass it around?
Winning.
Winning.
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This is a superb article highlighting the networking I remember from the 60's that turned momentary anger into long term change and progress. My wife and I, scientists living in Pasadena, flew to DC for the Washington site of the Women's March this weekend. Our Boeing 737 was packed with pink hats and incredibly warm, inclusive women and men. I do admit we guys were heavily outnumbered, but the good cheer and comraderie was universal. The warmth and good spirits grew even more during the March. People introduced themselves to each other, traded email addresses, airdropped photos back and forth, and made plans to connect again over the internet or in person. Thank you for emphasizing what some of the speakers at the DC March asked: "Introduce yourselves. Talk to each other." Again, thanks for the good reporting. Cheers.
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Many around the world joined in !!
It is important, I'd say imperative, that we also help raise our voices to join in with those who will resist the rising threat of hard right political parties in Europe. France, Germany and the Netherlands are facing a similar challenge to the ideals of liberal democracy.
We can help them, they can help us.
It is important, I'd say imperative, that we also help raise our voices to join in with those who will resist the rising threat of hard right political parties in Europe. France, Germany and the Netherlands are facing a similar challenge to the ideals of liberal democracy.
We can help them, they can help us.
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Among the silliest responses to the marches are the criticisms that those marching should have gotten out to vote. Common sense says that the vast majority of those adult citizens who were motivated to march on a cold, dreary day did vote.
A woman who attended the march in DC told me that the chant she liked best was, "This is what democracy looks like." Indeed it is, but that ignores the fact that the United States isn't a democracy in that sense. Hillary Clinton's popular vote margin could easily have been 2 or 3 times what it was without changing the presidential election result.
If those opposed to Trump want to make any real progress in their efforts, they need to end the repetition of relative popular vote totals and relative crowd sizes (and for that matter, relative hand sizes). Trump won by the numbers, like it or not. It will take other means to defeat his agenda.
A woman who attended the march in DC told me that the chant she liked best was, "This is what democracy looks like." Indeed it is, but that ignores the fact that the United States isn't a democracy in that sense. Hillary Clinton's popular vote margin could easily have been 2 or 3 times what it was without changing the presidential election result.
If those opposed to Trump want to make any real progress in their efforts, they need to end the repetition of relative popular vote totals and relative crowd sizes (and for that matter, relative hand sizes). Trump won by the numbers, like it or not. It will take other means to defeat his agenda.
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Carl, I am not sure you are right. We dont have convincing numbers on it but certainly lots of anecdotal info on people who stayed home or voted for Jill Stein. There are also lots of reports of Trump voters who are now concerned that they will lose their ACA. Organizing at the grassroots level is clearly important, but so is learning to sort out disinformation.The nasty shots taken at Hillary and Bernie, amplified by the MSM, need to be seen in the context that suppressing the vote by slandering the candidate is remarkably effect in the US these days.
Trump won by the electoral college numbers. the repetition of the vote numbers is about bringing attention and focus on the invalidity of the clearly outdated electoral system.
Get rid of it. No matter what this country is, a Republic blah blah, it does not feel like a just system when 3000000 more votes equals zero. Trump voters know this too and while the republicans have this country sewn up with their manipulations, it is still unAmerican, republic or no republic. Plus those men were racists with slaves who wouldn't let women vote. Why are we using THEIR rules?
Democrats cannot win elections fairly in an unrealistic election setup.
Women will not achieve equality with outdated rules.
Is this a govt by the people for the people?
NO it is not.
If you have a criticism, make a suggestion. If you don't have a suggestion, think of one. Making predictions is all about "being right." What does that get you? Get to work, do something, think of something. Grown ups are responsible for taking care of this planet and one another. Its problems are our problems.
Get rid of it. No matter what this country is, a Republic blah blah, it does not feel like a just system when 3000000 more votes equals zero. Trump voters know this too and while the republicans have this country sewn up with their manipulations, it is still unAmerican, republic or no republic. Plus those men were racists with slaves who wouldn't let women vote. Why are we using THEIR rules?
Democrats cannot win elections fairly in an unrealistic election setup.
Women will not achieve equality with outdated rules.
Is this a govt by the people for the people?
NO it is not.
If you have a criticism, make a suggestion. If you don't have a suggestion, think of one. Making predictions is all about "being right." What does that get you? Get to work, do something, think of something. Grown ups are responsible for taking care of this planet and one another. Its problems are our problems.
Thank you. This nonsense that marchers didn't vote started with Trump, of course, and there is no evidence of which I am aware that backs this up. Everyone I know who attended a march, including myself, voted.
I'm from a red state and our plan is to turn it blue. It won't be easy but as Tip O'Neil said, "All politics are local." So here's something you can do - call your Senators and Congress person and tell them how you want them to vote. It takes 5 minutes and you all have that. You can also email, comment on their FB page and on Twitter. If you have more time check out Indivisible to see if there is a group near you. If not, start one. Decide your key issues and make an action plan. As a mother and grandmother I'm concerned about climate change, healthcare and women's rights but to make a difference voter rights and registration will be key. I'm an independent - it doesn't matter which party you belong to. This is what we are doing after the March and we need your support and voices to keep the momentum going. The March was not a pity party it was democracy in action.
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Amen! Get the money out of politics, to start with. From the day a House of Rep. Congressman takes office, he spends the majority of his time fundraising for the next election.
How many billions were spent on this Presidential Election...with plenty of dark money whose sources we won't find out for months, if at all?
In my hometown, the powers that be tried to rig a school-board election, so they could 'eminent domain' some land and build a big, new administration building (the better to go to work in the morning for public schools, if you have a nice, big corner office with a view...sure, makes sense to me). They funneled a million dollar to one candidate...for a school board!
What stopped it?
The press.
They actually did their job as the fourth estate.
Boy, those were the days, huh?
How many billions were spent on this Presidential Election...with plenty of dark money whose sources we won't find out for months, if at all?
In my hometown, the powers that be tried to rig a school-board election, so they could 'eminent domain' some land and build a big, new administration building (the better to go to work in the morning for public schools, if you have a nice, big corner office with a view...sure, makes sense to me). They funneled a million dollar to one candidate...for a school board!
What stopped it?
The press.
They actually did their job as the fourth estate.
Boy, those were the days, huh?
My local politicians are Democrats and vote mostly the way I want them to. What can we in blue states do to support our friends in red states to help them turn red to blue?
I have spent hours (literally hours) trying to get through to our senators office. So, maybe, the first thing we need to do is get our representatives to create phone systems that work, so we can, at least, leave a message. They should tell us how best to reach them...that will, in fact, work. I am fired up and ready to go but all I have gotten is a busy signal!!
A future leader should emerge from these marches.
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CNN reports a total of four arrests for the various nationwide Women's March events. Rochester, New York reports a total of seven arrests. Is this fake news or fake math?
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Emily's List trains women to run for office. google Emily's list to find out how to do this.
Keep talking to your neighbors. Reach into the opposition's "bubble" daily with facts and figures in a nonthreatening and friendly way. Be the voice you want them to hear:
"Gee it would have been nice if Scott Walker had negotiated with insurance companies to get great deals for Wisconsin, like they did in Minnesota. That's why the ACA is so expensive in Wisconsin. And he refused the Medicaid supplement which would have lowered premiums by 8% to 10%. How about if you send your letter to Scott Walker to get him to change his mind on healthcare and get you a better deal?"
"Scott Walker gerrymandered his state. I'm sure that you were aware of that. Oh you're not? Oh well hope you don't mind if I let you know that gerrymandering keeps the votes from your fellow citizens from counting. Maybe you can write to Scott Walker and ask him to ungerrymander the state."
Etc.
Just keep talking nicely with the same messages based on fact.
Do not be silent just so that they can be comfortable. Do them the favor of giving them real information.
Keep talking to your neighbors. Reach into the opposition's "bubble" daily with facts and figures in a nonthreatening and friendly way. Be the voice you want them to hear:
"Gee it would have been nice if Scott Walker had negotiated with insurance companies to get great deals for Wisconsin, like they did in Minnesota. That's why the ACA is so expensive in Wisconsin. And he refused the Medicaid supplement which would have lowered premiums by 8% to 10%. How about if you send your letter to Scott Walker to get him to change his mind on healthcare and get you a better deal?"
"Scott Walker gerrymandered his state. I'm sure that you were aware of that. Oh you're not? Oh well hope you don't mind if I let you know that gerrymandering keeps the votes from your fellow citizens from counting. Maybe you can write to Scott Walker and ask him to ungerrymander the state."
Etc.
Just keep talking nicely with the same messages based on fact.
Do not be silent just so that they can be comfortable. Do them the favor of giving them real information.
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"What's next?"
Seriously? That's the question? "What's next?"
The ability of liberals to overcomplicate every easily solved situation continues to astound me.
Do you need me to tell you what should be "next"?
VOTE! Vote vote vote vote vote. Vote in every single election at every single level. Vote out every single person who has an R after their name. Vote out every person who professes right-wing "values" and "beliefs." Vote in every single person who is a proud progressive. Ignore Blue Dog panderers and center-right Third Way-ers. Vote progressive every single time and your life will start to become immeasurably better.
If you can't do that, then I don't care what you do "next," because whatever it is, it won't matter one iota compared to VOTING.
Seriously? That's the question? "What's next?"
The ability of liberals to overcomplicate every easily solved situation continues to astound me.
Do you need me to tell you what should be "next"?
VOTE! Vote vote vote vote vote. Vote in every single election at every single level. Vote out every single person who has an R after their name. Vote out every person who professes right-wing "values" and "beliefs." Vote in every single person who is a proud progressive. Ignore Blue Dog panderers and center-right Third Way-ers. Vote progressive every single time and your life will start to become immeasurably better.
If you can't do that, then I don't care what you do "next," because whatever it is, it won't matter one iota compared to VOTING.
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And even if polls show your candidate is ahead, vote anyway. Polls can be wrong, as we saw on 11/8/2016.
The first thing to do is make Democrats accountable too. It's way past time that all the Democrats in the House sign on to the Improved Medicare for All bill, HR 676, and Democratic Senators should file a companion bill. If they refuse, replace them. Getting rid of Trump in four years or sooner isn't enough.
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Develop or join an Indivisible group.
Get involved with WholeNewCongress.
Show up rather than email or twitter.
If you can't show up, give money to the evolving organizations rather than the old guard.
Ask yourself, "what did I do today to change leadership?"
Get involved with WholeNewCongress.
Show up rather than email or twitter.
If you can't show up, give money to the evolving organizations rather than the old guard.
Ask yourself, "what did I do today to change leadership?"
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Thanks for the ideas. Did you really mean Brand New Congress?
According to my google news feed, Fox "news" totally ignored the Saturday marches? How can this new Third Women's Movement (first for suffrage, second for change 1960s-80s) reach women and men who think Fox News is news?
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They had reporters in the crowd, talking to some of the attendees - trying to get someone to coherently define 'why' they were there.... no luck.
That would be my mom...and a lot of others just like her. She's 93, has believed everything she hears on Fox as long as they have been broadcasting. She's scandalized by the horrors she hears about Planned Parenthood, "living babies pulled apart for organ donations!!". Or some weird sensational statement that used to be seen only on the cover of news rags also reporting alien abductions. The National Enquirer reporting on celeb cellulite, monkey's born to human moms, is now on par with Fox News.
I like the idea of marching on Murdoch and marching on FOX and shutting them down. Let them ignore that.
Success? What are you talking about? Any signs against the electoral vote and for the popular vote? Any focus in themes tha really matter and could avoid him to be reelected in four years? Any signs about regrouping and winning the Congress from Conservatives in the mid-term election?
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Here are a few next steps: It goes without saying that we need to keep fighting against state laws restricting voting, even without help from Trump's attorney general. In Republican-held Democratic-majority states, the Democratic party needs to support candidates for statewide office, to take back governor's offices and Senate seats. In states with an initiative process for legislation we need to support initiatives to reduce gerrymandering by assigning redistricting to independent bipartisan boards.
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The same energy used to march like sheep to promote the wishes of the politically astute ,rich and powerful why not use that same enthusiasm to improve your own lives. Work on your weight, exercise program, make check-up appointments, mammograms, pap smear , raising your fico score, small business idea? Most of all cut down on social media. Success is how this article describe the so-call women march, even the name was a lie. In reality we all know it was set up to counter react Trumps inauguration by the democrats. You had a guest celebrity speaker who used fowl language to address the crowd , threatening to blow up the white house. White president, black president for a certain segment of this country things stay the same they never change.
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It does not matter which piece of the progressive agenda you hold most dear, what matters is effecting it and there is only one way to do that VOTE and organize the VOTE.
The only instrument for change in this country is the Democratic Party so joint it, give to it work for it and vote for it and its candidates. Nothing happens if you don't control your state legislature, if we don't win back the House and Senate in 2018.
I have said over and over and over that the Democratic constituency thinks this is a once every four year deal. Want to change this country, all those who marched Saturday, Then come back and vote in the midterms, vote in your state legislative elections, vote for your town council and mayor and school board. Vote in the election for dog catcher if there is one.
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE and make sure you do that in 2018 make sure the same feet on which you marched Saturday you march into voting booths all across this country in 22 months.
Over and over the Democratic presidential electorate that wins (and Clinton won), disappears two years later, especially people under 30. Well don't disappear this time. Come back and bring ten friends with you to VOTE.
The only instrument for change in this country is the Democratic Party so joint it, give to it work for it and vote for it and its candidates. Nothing happens if you don't control your state legislature, if we don't win back the House and Senate in 2018.
I have said over and over and over that the Democratic constituency thinks this is a once every four year deal. Want to change this country, all those who marched Saturday, Then come back and vote in the midterms, vote in your state legislative elections, vote for your town council and mayor and school board. Vote in the election for dog catcher if there is one.
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE and make sure you do that in 2018 make sure the same feet on which you marched Saturday you march into voting booths all across this country in 22 months.
Over and over the Democratic presidential electorate that wins (and Clinton won), disappears two years later, especially people under 30. Well don't disappear this time. Come back and bring ten friends with you to VOTE.
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Keep it simple: Recall and replace.
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Saturday was my 1st march (and I'm OLD). I would march every month for another cause. Pick one to start:
show us your taxes
Trump must divest
no tax cuts for the 1%
Affordable health care for ALL
No War: no cyberwar, no trade war, no nuclear war, no conventional war...
Keep Roe v Wade, Planned Parenthood, reproductive rights.....
Corporations are not people
Transparency from donors: No more dark money
Un-gerrymander NOW
DISCLOSE (Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections)
End Charitable Lead Trust
End Carried Interest
End corn subsidies (or all agri subsidies)
End fossil fuel subsidies
Melania: Stop YOUR bully
... I could go on... but I'd rather march.
show us your taxes
Trump must divest
no tax cuts for the 1%
Affordable health care for ALL
No War: no cyberwar, no trade war, no nuclear war, no conventional war...
Keep Roe v Wade, Planned Parenthood, reproductive rights.....
Corporations are not people
Transparency from donors: No more dark money
Un-gerrymander NOW
DISCLOSE (Democracy is Strengthened by Casting Light on Spending in Elections)
End Charitable Lead Trust
End Carried Interest
End corn subsidies (or all agri subsidies)
End fossil fuel subsidies
Melania: Stop YOUR bully
... I could go on... but I'd rather march.
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The sooner he is gotten rid of the better. Here thanks to Nixon/Kissenger we still wrestle with the ghosts of Pinochet every day.
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The Democratic party needs a new strong leader to unify the party.
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How about marching against gerrymandering
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ger·ry·man·der
ˈjerēˌmandər/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"
ˈjerēˌmandər/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"
Excellent idea. But start with letters, calls and personal visits to local congressional offices, especially when the representatives and senators are in town.
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Send a deluge of letters to the Office of the Presidency and key GOP stalwarts such as McConnell, Rep. Chaffetz (Oversight Committee ) McCain, Susan Collins, Graham, one's local reps. Remember when thousands of shoes arrived at Bush's office in support of the Iraqi who threw one at Bush during a press conference? Trump is so easily baited and thin-skinned that criticism and slights bring out Hamlet rantings minus the intelligence of Shakespeare's tragic character. One would have pity on the insecurities he possesses but he will and promises to bring such harm to all America. Blindly the rich might not believe that but it is surely true that our entire country is in a perilous plight.
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My question to the writers of this lazy piece of journalism is Did You See What Just Happened ? I think you guys should write about that and worry less about the future of this protest..Believe me and Millions of Women Worldwide..We Got This!
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I've known 'the Donald' for years. This march has him in meltdown. Keep it up. Surround Trump Tower every month or so, and try to do it when the clan is inside. Make them feel like Marie Antoinette- and "make them eat cake." He will crack. He's already lashing out at those closest to him. Anyone want Sean Spicer's job? Joseph Goebbels is not available.
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Trump lost bigtime "face" - his "TwitterMob" is nothing compared to a march like we saw around the world. Trump's days are numbered. Keep it going!! In America we can. In China we'd be seeing tanks in the square.
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The donald stated that he wants to parade the military. I took that as a threat.
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People are already proposing a march on April 15, aka a TAX MARCH. I say this is great, keep them coming. And have voter registration AT EVERY MARCH. 2018 is just around the corner. If you want people's voices to be heard, get them in the street to protest peacefully so that they show the politicians to think twice before assuming the left will be silent during these next 4 years, and REGISTER THEM TO VOTE.
START NOW.
START NOW.
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DC is part of the South. Thank you.
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You mean like the hundreds of marches that take place every year on April 15th? Not in your 'bubble' or on your 'feed' so you're not aware? That's sad...
Southerner: Great idea about voter registration. I am calling my Congressman to let him know I will be registering new voters in his district to help defeat him if he supports Trump's agenda. A centralized movement, like the Tea Party would probably be best, though and the sooner the better.
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"More than a million" ??? Way, way more than a million.
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The best sign:
"Trump writes in Comic Sans"
The best feeling:
Hope
"Trump writes in Comic Sans"
The best feeling:
Hope
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NYT, why isn't this article on you politics page? Why are there zero articles about the march on you politics page? This is misogyny in action: not recognizing the issues raised and the people raising them as political.
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It's on the FRONT PAGE. That's more prominent and will get more readers than putting it in the Politics section. So featuring it more prominently is misogyny? I can imagine the response if it had instead been put in the Politics section. "Why did you bury this massive march - the largest our nation has ever seen, and perhaps the largest the world has ever seen - on your Politics page? We aren't politicians; we are The People! And this historic event deserves front page treatment. You are misogynists every one of you!"
Nikolai, I don't think you understand how the NYT works: articles from any section can be promoted on the front page. The Women's March articles are generally in the U.S. section. My point is not that the Times failed to recognize the events at all (though they were slow on the uptake). Rather, they failed to recognize that the participants are indeed engaging in political discourse of equal worth to other current events. It's the same pattern many of us experience every day: talked over, ignored, credit taken for our efforts and ideas--if we're even given opportunity to speak.
Also: 3 million people join a Women's March, and the NYT has to have an article about how it affects (white, upper-middle-class) men: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/nyregion/womens-march-montclair-nj.html
Holy heck! they had to look after their kids! (Don't worry, their wives made up the hardship to them.)
(Btw, I'm sure these families juggled this and other obligations with aplomb, as they must do every week. My beef is with the NYT that wrote and published this insulting article.)
Holy heck! they had to look after their kids! (Don't worry, their wives made up the hardship to them.)
(Btw, I'm sure these families juggled this and other obligations with aplomb, as they must do every week. My beef is with the NYT that wrote and published this insulting article.)
90 days late. Before the election and this would have mattered.
In the wrong place. March for women's rights in Saudi Arabia, or in NE Nigeria to free the school girls, or in Sudan to protest female circumcision, or in India to protest dowry and bride burning.
But nice pink bunny hats.
In the wrong place. March for women's rights in Saudi Arabia, or in NE Nigeria to free the school girls, or in Sudan to protest female circumcision, or in India to protest dowry and bride burning.
But nice pink bunny hats.
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John F - Make no mistake, WE WERE MARCHING FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS EVERYWHERE. You missed that point entirely - I'm not sure why.
Yes, hindsight is 20-20. These marches would have been very important in October. Wish we had had a crystal ball...
Yes, hindsight is 20-20. These marches would have been very important in October. Wish we had had a crystal ball...
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Ah yes, such caring for women overseas. I see this is the new RW talking point, as I have seen it pop up in multiple threads on FB and Twitter. What have YOU done to advocate for these women? Next to nothing I'm willing to bet. This line of questioning is a distraction tactic, nothing more. We aren't going away and we aren't going to be quiet. Try again.
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Everyone listen to this man. Clearly it is not worth advocating for change in your own country if others have it worse than you. You can only care about one thing at a time, too, silly girls.
I think somebody's upset he doesn't have a pink hat! Who wants to knit one for him? :)
I think somebody's upset he doesn't have a pink hat! Who wants to knit one for him? :)
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On a national level, I don't know what comes next.
On an individual level, I will share that I e-mailed the WH last night regarding Kellyanne Conway's hilarious comments over the weekend about "alternative facts" and Trump not turning over his tax returns because "Americans don't care,"
I assured the WH that I care.
In fact, I think that Americans who care, should flood the WH THEIR tax returns. It seems to me that Mr. Trump would be inclined to engage in a game of: I'll show you mine, if you show me yours.
I also e-mailed my Republican Congressman Andy Barr letting him know that I am holding him accountable for securing Trump's tax returns.
On an individual level, each one of us who attended the March can make sure that anyone who supports this regime will be made very uncomfortable everyday over the next four years.
And yes, I voted. But not for Trump.
On an individual level, I will share that I e-mailed the WH last night regarding Kellyanne Conway's hilarious comments over the weekend about "alternative facts" and Trump not turning over his tax returns because "Americans don't care,"
I assured the WH that I care.
In fact, I think that Americans who care, should flood the WH THEIR tax returns. It seems to me that Mr. Trump would be inclined to engage in a game of: I'll show you mine, if you show me yours.
I also e-mailed my Republican Congressman Andy Barr letting him know that I am holding him accountable for securing Trump's tax returns.
On an individual level, each one of us who attended the March can make sure that anyone who supports this regime will be made very uncomfortable everyday over the next four years.
And yes, I voted. But not for Trump.
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Trump can say it isn't raining, but we can all feel it coming down! Here in Hawaii he is hated. Make that HATED. Held beneath contempt for his anti-human values. inaina !!
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Next should be a march demanding the release of Trump's tax returns. April 15 looks to be on a Saturday this year.
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Do you really want to see that much paper wasted? This just proves that the planet never mattered to begin with.
The money spent on attending the march was used very inefficiently. It could have been used to buy several politicians, which the way to effect change in the US.
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Yes, let's focus in what really matters. What about one against the electoral vote and for the popular vote?
Let's give Trump permanent "stormy weather." Wherever in the US he visits there should be an outpouring of how we feel. The media will cover it. That is all this traitor cares about.
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It has been very refreshing to witness the New York Times covering the Women's March with such breathless advocacy. I trust that there will be no mention whatsoever, as is your normal m.o., of the March for Life on January 27th, for these pro-life females have abrogated the right to call themselves women.
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If anti-abortion zealots get over 3.5 million marchers around the world to participate, I'm sure the world will notice. But, your cause boils down to imposing your backwards religious beliefs upon the bodies of other women. You are an anti-human rights group in my opinion that violates the separation between church and state. You're either letting yourselves be used to shelter a traitor or you're a front for Putin, take your pick. But, you've nothing to do with women's rights except oppressing them.
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Isn't the March for Life an annual event? That doesn't necessarily lend itself to annual coverage in a national news outlet.
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There's a difference between being pro-life, and being pro-life and forcing your religious views on the rest of us.
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Indeed, read the tea leaves. Trump will be replaced by Pence to the delight of the Republican House.
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Yes, keep marching but just as important, watch proposed legislation. govtrack.us will allow you to be notified when a bill is proposed and you can track its progress (or lack thereof). H.R. 193: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017, was proposed and will result in our country no longer being a part of the United Nations. We need to keep vigilant. Thanks to all for marching on Saturday. It matters.
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Women's march was a "success"? How so? All I saw were a group of people wasting their Saturday walking and repeatedly chanting.
If standing or walking around repeating yourself ad nauseam is the definition of success, then yes it was a huge "success".
If standing or walking around repeating yourself ad nauseam is the definition of success, then yes it was a huge "success".
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I'm replying to the trolls who - SURPRISE! - all seem to be male.
When MILLIONS of women, men and children take to the streets, listen to speakers on how they can effect change and then march together FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE, yes, Richard, it IS a success. We are energized. We will fight against hatred, in all its forms. And we've shown the rest of the planet that Americans are as repulsed by Trump as they are.
When MILLIONS of women, men and children take to the streets, listen to speakers on how they can effect change and then march together FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE, yes, Richard, it IS a success. We are energized. We will fight against hatred, in all its forms. And we've shown the rest of the planet that Americans are as repulsed by Trump as they are.
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And here it is, Monday, and you got to speak your piece, too!
Isn't democracy wonderful?!?
Yes. It was a huge success!
Isn't democracy wonderful?!?
Yes. It was a huge success!
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You just saw "a group" of people? You didn't see that people from all walks of life were marching in big cities and small towns all across this nation, Canada, and SEVEN CONTINENTS? And this means nothing to you?
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The marches were a huge success by bringing together people who wanted to show their solidarity in preventing the current White House Occupier in governing by deception ("alternative facts" = lying). The marchers, and many others, don't like, for instance, the knee-jerk responses by someone who is supposed to be leading the country against people who disagree with him, don't like being told one thing and suddenly it is something different, don't like the "fake news" man himself calling out the media for fake news, and don't like that he cannot hear anyone's opinion if it differs from his own.
The marches will evolve into a movement against bigotry, sexism, racism, xeonophilism, and false information by allowing hope for change that will help people reach out to other like-minded people to insist on having their voices heard.
Suggestions for the next step:
1.Write, email, text, tweet your Comgresspeople and Senators. Congressional offices have phone numbers and on-line forms to submit your opinion. Give opinions on current issues that are up for vote. Be Heard.
2.Subscribe to a trusted news source. All news sources cannot be correct on every detail all of the time - some are much better than others. NYT, Washington Post. Be sure to differentiate between "news" and "opinion columns".
3.Be wary of conservative talk shows. If that is the only news in your area, contact the TV/radio station and talk with them about adding NPR, CNN, or neutral sources.
4. Continue talking.
The marches will evolve into a movement against bigotry, sexism, racism, xeonophilism, and false information by allowing hope for change that will help people reach out to other like-minded people to insist on having their voices heard.
Suggestions for the next step:
1.Write, email, text, tweet your Comgresspeople and Senators. Congressional offices have phone numbers and on-line forms to submit your opinion. Give opinions on current issues that are up for vote. Be Heard.
2.Subscribe to a trusted news source. All news sources cannot be correct on every detail all of the time - some are much better than others. NYT, Washington Post. Be sure to differentiate between "news" and "opinion columns".
3.Be wary of conservative talk shows. If that is the only news in your area, contact the TV/radio station and talk with them about adding NPR, CNN, or neutral sources.
4. Continue talking.
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Trump was excoriated in this very newspaper for not speaking a message of national unity in his inaugural address, but this festival of divisive complaining is accounted a success? Makes me wonder.
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Some people only see what they want to see, and only listen to what they want to hear.
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I called my Senator to urge him to reject the nomination of Scott Pruitt to head the EPA this morning. A lot of small actions like mine from a large group of people will change things hopefully.
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What's next?
Democrats lose more seats in the 2018 midterm as identity politics continues to marginalize the party.
Democrats lose more seats in the 2018 midterm as identity politics continues to marginalize the party.
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I'll check back with you, sir, in November 2018 to see if you're still singing that tune. You might want to decide what kind of ethics and politics you want in your own state of North Carolina. Or have you already decided that you're comfortable with with the maneuvering of the GOP in your state to undercut the ability of the incoming Democratic governor to govern?
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I thought the marches were an amazing show of unity. All of us across the globe who will fight for human rights.
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Don't forget Trump's impeachment Jeff. That will be marginalizing probably as well.
"When Karma comes to get you be aware for whatever you have earned in life you will forever wear." I learned this useful tip in my childhood:
so, this day, I am making my own pink kitty-cat ears hat which I fully intend to display on my head 24/7. I pledge to proudly wear this sign of American solidarity until "Puff-en-stuff" vacates the office.
so, this day, I am making my own pink kitty-cat ears hat which I fully intend to display on my head 24/7. I pledge to proudly wear this sign of American solidarity until "Puff-en-stuff" vacates the office.
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And add a black armband to your bicept to show you are mourning the death of our democracy.
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Yesterday was the first day I've been able to look at one iota of news since election day, unless you count "Sunday Styles," with my eyes carefully averted from any other NYT content.
About the protests. Not all of us were so fortunate as to be with other progressive, like-minded people. I was by myself with a handmade sign that said "Trump is a Fool" at the Duomo Square in Milan. I was by myself, and that was okay.
Many people came up to me and asked me how we could allow Trump to be elected. I told them that a) Trump is a dilettante, and b) the majority of Americans DID NOT VOTE for him. There was a lot of head wagging about their own leader. (On Sunday, interestingly, I worshiped at All Saints Anglican Church, and the congregation was sending 2 delegates to the Anglican Communion in Brussels to discuss the ramifications of Brexit.)
Everyone who saw my sign was supportive, in fact, except for a young woman with an accent so thick that at first I took her for a Russian-speaker, but she said she was American. Anyway, she was angry because there were no government jobs available for her because "blacks and Hispanics" were given all the jobs. Because of Trump, she said, she felt "hope" that non-Americans were going to get kicked out and she'd receive a "good-paying" job.
The typical put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube Trump supporter. I was this close to saying something mean about her accent, but I smiled and said "buona fortuna," and she walked away.
Good luck to us all.
About the protests. Not all of us were so fortunate as to be with other progressive, like-minded people. I was by myself with a handmade sign that said "Trump is a Fool" at the Duomo Square in Milan. I was by myself, and that was okay.
Many people came up to me and asked me how we could allow Trump to be elected. I told them that a) Trump is a dilettante, and b) the majority of Americans DID NOT VOTE for him. There was a lot of head wagging about their own leader. (On Sunday, interestingly, I worshiped at All Saints Anglican Church, and the congregation was sending 2 delegates to the Anglican Communion in Brussels to discuss the ramifications of Brexit.)
Everyone who saw my sign was supportive, in fact, except for a young woman with an accent so thick that at first I took her for a Russian-speaker, but she said she was American. Anyway, she was angry because there were no government jobs available for her because "blacks and Hispanics" were given all the jobs. Because of Trump, she said, she felt "hope" that non-Americans were going to get kicked out and she'd receive a "good-paying" job.
The typical put-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube Trump supporter. I was this close to saying something mean about her accent, but I smiled and said "buona fortuna," and she walked away.
Good luck to us all.
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If I had been there I would have been honored to stand with you. Thank you!
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Women in some industries work for lower pay (though it's exaggerated in other areas) and there are other unfair disadvantages they deal with that men don't. But, I can't sympathize with marchers who associate themselves with an anti-Trump movement if I don't hear a general ringing denunciation of the fascists among them. I'm sure there are great people marching (I know some), but, I can't accept what I have been seeing throughout the election - an attempt to push politics on others by violence and intimidation. Time and time again I have seen videos of marchers chanting "death to cops" or beatings and even once torture of someone for supporting Trump, rioting and the takeover of political rallies. On the right I saw two punches (thrown at people trying to ruin their event) and Trump made some stupid statements. I'm sure there is more I missed, but the violence is overwhelmingly on the left (as well as the tendency to make false claims of being assailed). And I have not heard much of that from speakers for women's right, aside from Madonna, who is beneath contempt, but if they are part of a general anti-Trump movement, then I need to hear their contempt for fascists among them. The same goes for Republicans, but, they do now generally reject the fascists who associate with them. I'm not conservative or Republican and would not have voted for most of the Republican candidates including Trump. But, I know violence and fascism when I see it. So, sorry, hard to hear you.
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What in the world are you talking about? There was NO VIOLENCE at all and no arrests and MILLIONS of people were out in the streets.
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Wow. Alternative facts if ever I heard them.
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There were no arrests and no violence reported at any of the Women's Marches.
The violence on Inauguration Day was driven by opportunistic anarchists.
I'm glad you have all this figured out since Trump is the fascist.
The violence on Inauguration Day was driven by opportunistic anarchists.
I'm glad you have all this figured out since Trump is the fascist.
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The only march that matters is the one to the ballot box, and that's historically a march that few Democrats make in the midterms. Until then, it's all noise.
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You make a very good point. I wouldn't say that voting is the ONLY action that matters, but without voting, other actions are not enough.
Noise is good. It can push people in the right direction. Protests and organized political action are not mutually exclusive.
We will see. Trump did promise to "unite the country" so I have to assume he intends to inculde women in this. But then he never bragged on tape about groping men.
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The March was so affirming because it pushed back on the dark picture that Trump creates with his chaos.
Bring that light to the whole country. The glum red states are drained of money by draconian state legislatures and brainwashed to believe some slop about liberal elites wanting to impose a social agenda. They are the fuel for Trump and his minions down there in the pit.
Bring enlightenment to the homogeneous areas of the country. Mix it up. I still have hope that the fear of America's changes can be overcome with exposure to the different people that make up our country.
While we were sleeping the far right worked in the night dividing the country to keep us distracted from uniting against the repressive conservative agenda of white male power.
Protect those who will be on the front lines - the leaders who stand up to him and his administration and try to speak truth to power.
Trump's team will try to divide and conquer, distract and slight of hand. People will focus on the center stage. But what Trump, says, does and feels in his heart is irrelevant because he is ignorant and unteachable. No policy or direction will come out of his head. Keep watch on those who pull his strings.
And while the president's show is going on. Congress will be busy creating legislation, passing it, funding it and enforcing it.
Bring that light to the whole country. The glum red states are drained of money by draconian state legislatures and brainwashed to believe some slop about liberal elites wanting to impose a social agenda. They are the fuel for Trump and his minions down there in the pit.
Bring enlightenment to the homogeneous areas of the country. Mix it up. I still have hope that the fear of America's changes can be overcome with exposure to the different people that make up our country.
While we were sleeping the far right worked in the night dividing the country to keep us distracted from uniting against the repressive conservative agenda of white male power.
Protect those who will be on the front lines - the leaders who stand up to him and his administration and try to speak truth to power.
Trump's team will try to divide and conquer, distract and slight of hand. People will focus on the center stage. But what Trump, says, does and feels in his heart is irrelevant because he is ignorant and unteachable. No policy or direction will come out of his head. Keep watch on those who pull his strings.
And while the president's show is going on. Congress will be busy creating legislation, passing it, funding it and enforcing it.
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"What's next?" Each person in the march should convince 1 person to vote their Republican representative out of office in the next mid-term elections. Trump isn't the biggest threat. Its his minions in Congress.
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Where to go from here? I was on a conference last night with 25,000 others organized by moveon.org and the Indivisible movement. We are going to organize visits to our Congressional reps and Senators every Tuesday. We have a voice and we are going to ROAR to make sure this Neanderthal administration doesn't drag us back to the 1940s where they want us to go.
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My wife and I attended a Sister March in Bentonville, Arkansas with a few hundred others. I noticed some had impeachment signs. I just wanted to point out that a President Pence might be worse. For one thing, the Republicans would much rather have him than Trump. That alone, should make us think twice. And he is very much the ideologue as opposed to Trump's self-absorption. Pence would work very hard to reverse Roe v Wade. I think this is worthy of discussion or thought now, before an impeachable offense occurs, which I think likely.
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1. Sign and share petitions for Trump to release his taxes and divest his businesses. Defeat the hollow argument his administration repeats that it's only reporters that care about these issues.
2. Look up and call your elected representatives to urge them to resist and oppose this administration. Every day. http://www.whoismyrepresentative.com/
3. Get involved at the local level.
4. Volunteer for the DNCC. It's never too early to gear up for the midterms!
I've never been politically active (apart from voting) in my life, but the threat this man and his cohort of deplorables poses to this country is too much to ignore. Trump started a movement, all right.
2. Look up and call your elected representatives to urge them to resist and oppose this administration. Every day. http://www.whoismyrepresentative.com/
3. Get involved at the local level.
4. Volunteer for the DNCC. It's never too early to gear up for the midterms!
I've never been politically active (apart from voting) in my life, but the threat this man and his cohort of deplorables poses to this country is too much to ignore. Trump started a movement, all right.
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March, March, March - Yes
But more importantly - vote, vote, vote.
That means every election. Not just president. Especially important are state legislature elections. They control the congressional districts and after the 2010 census the republicans gerrymandered districts to insure a majority in the US House of Representatives. This must be turned around.
But more importantly - vote, vote, vote.
That means every election. Not just president. Especially important are state legislature elections. They control the congressional districts and after the 2010 census the republicans gerrymandered districts to insure a majority in the US House of Representatives. This must be turned around.
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Every person on that march needs to commit to calling their representatives once a week. That's all it would take - 3 5-minute phone calls every week for the next 4 years. That kind of pressure can't be ignored.
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Please Women of the World, do not let this activism of yours rest one moment.
Let this March on Saturday be but Day One of a ceaseless battle against bigotry.
Please do not lose focus. Next year we will have an all-important off-year election. These have been the Achilles Heel of Dems. The young especially become less interested in politics during the off-years while the robotic know-nothing Republicans dutifully march their zombies to the polls voting in more Republicans determined to destroy the Federal government.
2018 may not seem important but it is. By this time next year we need Democratic Woman AND Men to converge, rally and support their representatives. Start today.
DD
Manhattan
Let this March on Saturday be but Day One of a ceaseless battle against bigotry.
Please do not lose focus. Next year we will have an all-important off-year election. These have been the Achilles Heel of Dems. The young especially become less interested in politics during the off-years while the robotic know-nothing Republicans dutifully march their zombies to the polls voting in more Republicans determined to destroy the Federal government.
2018 may not seem important but it is. By this time next year we need Democratic Woman AND Men to converge, rally and support their representatives. Start today.
DD
Manhattan
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The blame game has to stop. In fact, we may never know how or why this abomination found its way into the White House. This article is accurate and Democrats (and all progressives) need to sustain their actions in opposition to Trump and the heartless, greedy, irresponsible GOP - party of the 1% and Ayn Rand delusions. Obama and Holder are right - the battle will really take place, and be won or lost, in the trenches of the state and local elections That will determine congressional redistricting after the 2020 census, the likely composition of the House of Representatives, and the Electoral College. Yes - it will take a LOT of work!
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The single most effective thing that can be done is to pursue legal action against gerrymandering at the state level. The right to vote is found in State Constitutions, not the U.S. Constitution - and every state constitution also guarantees "equal protection"
Ipso Facto - political gerrymandering violates the equal protection clause.
Ipso Facto - political gerrymandering violates the equal protection clause.
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Audre Lorde, the powerful Black feminist intellectual wrote, “Revolution is not a one-time event, or something that happens around us rather than inside us…Each one of us must look clearly and closely at the genuine particulars (conditions) of his or her life and decide where action and energy is needed and where it can be effective. Change is the immediate responsibility of each of us, wherever and however we are standing, in whatever arena we chose…There are no new ideas, just new ways of giving those ideas we cherish breath and power in own living.”
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Excellent! That sums up how I view this.
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The organizations Planned Parenthood, Democratic Party, etc. Need to form a committee to coordinate their activities, pick an issue of the month. share e-mail lists and organize public educational efforts and protests.
It would be great if we could have a march on Washington several times a year to combat Republican efforts, like ACA repeal / replac, tax reforms that favor the rich, Medicare voucherizartion etc.
For every Republican action there should be an equal or greater re-action by an informed and motivated public.
It would be great if we could have a march on Washington several times a year to combat Republican efforts, like ACA repeal / replac, tax reforms that favor the rich, Medicare voucherizartion etc.
For every Republican action there should be an equal or greater re-action by an informed and motivated public.
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As a professor of community organizing for 40 years, I am as heartened by Saturday as I was terrified by Friday. In such emotions, shared by millions of others, lie the seeds of every sustained social movement, from the Progressive Era through the 30's labor movement, the 50's & 60's civil rights movement, the women's movement of the 70's and the LGBT fights of the 80's: hope and frustration/fear. This is the necessary brew of what we stand for as well as against that built movements that changed America for the better. The frustration/fear, built on acts of resistance, slowly eroded the authority of dominant elites. The hope, offering a new way forward, began to articulate an alternative authority that over time captured the larger public's imagination. Today we are well-trained in the defensive strategies of how to resist; to sustain such resistance, each of us must choose one or two issues--not ten-- and fight, again and again, against the coming political tsunami. But hope requires a unifying vision, one that connects all of us and our separate, defensive fights into a way forward to a better, more equitable and just world. Such a vision has not been forged well for many, many years. Perhaps now, in the wasteland of Donald Trump's authoritarianism, we can locate our own common ground of human rights and human decency that recaptures the imagination of what America might be.
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I overheard someone in a bar say about the people who marched, "they'll get over it eventually". It's interesting to me that the Right--which has expressed its anger incessantly on Talk Radio and formed organizations like the Tea Party--is now saying the left should get in line, accept the new President, and "get over it".
Nope. The left has to learn from their Playbook: resist and keep resisting.
Nope. The left has to learn from their Playbook: resist and keep resisting.
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I marched in DC and have already organized a gathering at my home in 2 weeks for us to discuss our strategy and write our local and state representatives telling them what we want.
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The article's main premise is false. The woman's march was not successful. It did not accomplish anything. Rather, it was a feel-good support group for those who gathered. Nothing more.
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Amen to that, Dan. I read an article years ago by a former member of the French Resistance. He said that all Americans know how to do is protest and protesting does nothing. Remember Zuccotti Park? How did that work out?
The "woman's" [sic] march - which took place across the planet - was a success in terms of networking, solidarity, new activism avenues and public relations. It was covered by most TV/cable networks, radio, the internet and inundated social media.
The millions who marched across the world made it clear that we'll do everything we can to oppose tyranny, the cessation of civil rights, abortion and birth control rights, fight for climate change regulations and oppose plutocracy.
What did you do for your fellow American and the planet lately?
The millions who marched across the world made it clear that we'll do everything we can to oppose tyranny, the cessation of civil rights, abortion and birth control rights, fight for climate change regulations and oppose plutocracy.
What did you do for your fellow American and the planet lately?
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Bernie's "Revolution" machinery is there - time for the people who supported him to realize that millions of people want the same thing, just expressed differently. Grab the initiative, work together with the leaders of the women's movement to build up the local groups that helped Bernie. It's not about Bernie as much as his message, and it's not about wearing pink hats as much as it is doing the harder work of reaching out and teaching others about the dangers of alt-right thinking. And it's about getting candidates to oppose the heinous crooks who are lining up to lick orange-man's bottom.
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Celebrities who appear to be jumping on the bandwagon to promote their careers are a huge problem on the left. I love 'em, they have every right to be there and have their voices heard. But, unfortunately, because media flocks to them first, they end up becoming the main voices for millions and hog the limelight. They do not reach the audience who put Trump into the presidency. I'm sorry about this inconvenient truth because it's unfair to those who are there for all the right reasons. But too many show up anywhere there's an audience big enough to boost their followers and then grab the microphone and speak for everyone.
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We have so many female Democratic and Republican senators and congress women. Are they all sleeping during the congressional sessions? Why can't we hear their voices about women's issues? Are they in the parade to support women's issues? Or is this just the news media manipulation to retaliate president Trump. The whole thing is just a joke. Where were they when the voting started? I support "pro-choice" but voted Republican candidates because Democratic party failed to address important issues when they were in the White House.
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As a woman who had the illumination of her life at the march, the biggest next step is to help people understand that it wasn't about getting women "equal rights" (that's what many conservative sites are mocking right now) but about women standing up for issues that matter to the world and saying "not on my watch."
In my case, I marched in support of the things that I believe strongly in but Trump does not -- wilderness and the Earth, the pursuit of knowledge & intellect, and public schools.
I don't intend to stop.
In my case, I marched in support of the things that I believe strongly in but Trump does not -- wilderness and the Earth, the pursuit of knowledge & intellect, and public schools.
I don't intend to stop.
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The marches that took place on Saturday are the opening salvo. We have plans for resistance and the tenacity, energy, and commitment to see carry them out. The sleeping tiger has been awakened.
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The American political system has arrived at its current pitiful state for one reason and one reason only: its corruption by the bribes and payoffs otherwise known as "campaign contributions." Until these bribes and payoffs are made unlawful there is not the slightest hope that America's government can reclaim the mantle of legitimacy.
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Er, I thought Jeb Bush, and for that matter Hillary Clinton, had huge war chests of campaign funds.
Make him feel our hate and contempt every day. Keep the pressure on up close and personal in real life on those foolish enough to be brainwashed. They are mostly complacent sheep who were lulled by the lies of FOX and friends to think they are actually a majority, instead of a Russian psyops demographic. They are about to be rewarded with higher gas prices and no health care. They will crumble like badly mixed cement of the type Trump ordered from the mob for his cheesy buildings.
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I finally joined the ACLU yesterday. I realized that with the inevitable increase in successful voter suppression tactics that will be coming from the states that the final peaceful barricade against the right is what remains of the justice system. It's going to take lawyers and money. Game on.
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Keep the mobs around Trump Tower. Every week. Keep up that pressure. The media will cover it. Trump will howl. In his face. That's the place to stay.
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Why keep a mob around Trump Tower? Doing so will only make it difficult for working people to get to work. Remember the one percent can telecommute - their minions cannot. Trump is in WDC now, so he will not be affected by - as you refer - the mobs.
Oh, and the definition of MOB: a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.
Choose your words carefully.
Oh, and the definition of MOB: a large crowd of people, especially one that is disorderly and intent on causing trouble or violence.
Choose your words carefully.
Why don't we start by emailing Donald Trump, his cabinet, and the Republican and Democratic leadership everyday about one topic -- say not repealing health care for a week or two? At the same time -- every day. Millions of emails. Then, we pick another issue, say the wall. etc. until they understand that our needs must be considered when planning new legislation and executive actions.
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Interesting perspective from the NYT. If this weeks women's march was a "success" then the annual right for life march that has advocated for the rights of all women, including unborn women for the last 40 years must also be a success, no? Yet the right for life march, which consistently draws marchers EVERY year of over half a million have garnered very little attention from this publication. When the marchers of this week can stay on message for just a fraction of the time the right for life marchers have, then we can call this week march a "success".
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What's next? More wailing and moaning about inequality and sexism. More disgusting demonstrations which illustrate the hate and vitriol of the protesters. And a lot more editorials and smarmy sarcasm form the east and west coast liberals who preach liberal values and then live lives that 95% of Americans can only dream of.
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The success of Women's march should provide clarity on what woman want instead of an expression of what they did not want. Clearly the democrats have backing of more women than the Republican party. They should therefore continue to harness women power and continue to nominate a woman for becoming the first woman president of US and just the way they helped Clinton win the popular vote they can help another woman leader become the first president of the USA. I think they should project a staunch Sander's supporter, a fiery orator and an Iraq war army vet Congresswoman from Hawaii Tulsi Gabbard to become the first woman president. Trump projected himself as an antiwar candidate and having a candidate that is antiwar who is against wasteful wars and regime change overseas will have a good chance in a war weary USA. I don't think there is a single American male or female who does not want to be proud of having lived in times with a woman president in their life time. The same as having just had the first African American president.
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Tulsi is awesome, i'd vote for her in a heartbeat. But she doesn't roll over and play nice or toe the party line, so the Dems won't dream of putting her up.
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If the Trump administration continues to lie with impunity and push legislation that undermines the lives of working men and women then the next step should be a general one day strike. That will focus the Trump administration on the political and economic cost of their actions.
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How to keep things rolling from the Women's March? Look at Amnesty International and use some of their tactics--organize letter writing campaigns to your own State and US legislators, Senators and Representatives, to fight against the various unacceptable things he promotes. Letter writing and phone call parties would also bring in those who supported the Women's March but were not able to join in.
Keep iy going. Call in to talk radio shows, write letters, call your State and US Representatives and Senators and urge them to vote against confirmation of the most objectionable government office candidates he puts forward.
Get together with environmental groups and the anti-Dakota pipeline project to block initiatives both local and national that will damage the environment and infringe on Native American rights and homes.
Keep at it. Don't give him a moments rest.
Keep iy going. Call in to talk radio shows, write letters, call your State and US Representatives and Senators and urge them to vote against confirmation of the most objectionable government office candidates he puts forward.
Get together with environmental groups and the anti-Dakota pipeline project to block initiatives both local and national that will damage the environment and infringe on Native American rights and homes.
Keep at it. Don't give him a moments rest.
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Marches across the world should have taken place far in advance to prevent Trump becoming the candidate. These pink marches are pretty but can't do much now. Too late, the monarch is there.
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Nonsense. Why roll over and play dead? It's never too late.
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It was an astounding success. I almost thought why we do not have a Women's Party, more or less caucusing with the Democratic Party.
When you think about it, women's rights in this country is extremely slow evolving, and most of the time it seems to be under attack. It is not just enough to have senators and representatives of the female gender.
We need to have broad alignment of policies being made with that of women's rights and improvements in their life. Women do face unique issues in this country and it is high time they get a purposeful seat at the table in the highest levels.
When you think about it, women's rights in this country is extremely slow evolving, and most of the time it seems to be under attack. It is not just enough to have senators and representatives of the female gender.
We need to have broad alignment of policies being made with that of women's rights and improvements in their life. Women do face unique issues in this country and it is high time they get a purposeful seat at the table in the highest levels.
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Few, if any, will forget what they were a part of this past weekend. The Internet never forgets and YouTube will keep it at our fingertips for the whole world to re-visit over and over again. It will be handed down from generation to generation. They attended an event that told Donald Trump he is being given notice that women aren't there for him to denigrate, nor people of color, nor those with disabilities, the aged, those without stock portfolios, those not given a million dollars like he was by his father to kick-start their career, those who sidle up to foreign leaders bent on bringing us down, and those who exaggerate and tell falsehoods to suit their version of things. Not only was the whole world watching, the whole world was there, Donald trump
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What's next is that we put Congress on notice. If people in huge numbers can rally very quickly for this march, wait till the next. Tell Congress if they want civil unrest, keep pushing their extreme right-wing agenda. People are angry and frustrated that their vote did not count due to the archaic electoral college.
If you want the transition of power to be peaceful, deny confirmation of Trumps most extreme choices, put back the ACA until a replacement is made and approved by the people, and work for programs that will benefit all Americans through dialogue and compromise. If not, let's take to the streets.
If you want the transition of power to be peaceful, deny confirmation of Trumps most extreme choices, put back the ACA until a replacement is made and approved by the people, and work for programs that will benefit all Americans through dialogue and compromise. If not, let's take to the streets.
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I have a day off and just watched morning television in the gym. It was hard to believe the drivel that remains on daytime television in 2017. A debate among the hosts regarding Taylor Swift's absence from the march was followed by a loud woman with purple hair discussing how to match pillows to sofas. A true measurement of empowerment will be the day programs like The View go off the air for lack of audience.
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Why do you even bother watching such stuff? I haven't had a TV for over 30 years and do not miss it. But do not judge marching feminists by popular media TV shows. Argh!
Women's Healthcare is a large target that all of us can hit, and need to. Just one example: Today's NYTimes reprints an article about the rise in cervical cancer deaths, especially among women of color. The cause of cervical cancer, Human Papilloma Virus, currently afflicts 20,000,000 American women and men (CDC), and the vaccines available work against only a few types of the virus. Women of every age, race and economic status can benefit from increased research into these cancers; from pressure on government and insurance companies for more and better screening; for better and more regular preventative care for all women. Pro-choice, anti-abortion -- our anatomy unites us all. Let's keep the caring going.
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So the Times wants to proclaim the marches as a huge success. What was the success? That they had a lot of people demonstrate their unhappiness with Trump? That those who were already of the same mindset showed that they were?
The sole purpose seems to be to declare that Trump is not their president and never will be. How is that any different from what they have been touting since it became apparent that Trump was a likely challenger to Clinton?
As another reader points out below Trump is president and the Republicans control both sides of Congress along with most of the state governorships and legislatures. From where I sit it looks like two things are going to happen. One, the protests will change nothing for the next four years because there is no real power behind them. And two, the Democrats are going to try and do exactly what they complained the Republicans did for the past 8 years in stonewalling any attempts to move the country forward just because they lost. "Going to take my toys and go home" attitude.
Newsflash. The reason Trump is in power is because the Democrats only cared about certain things and constituents and forgot about those who had the power to make a change. You got what you deserve for being elitist in your own way.
The sole purpose seems to be to declare that Trump is not their president and never will be. How is that any different from what they have been touting since it became apparent that Trump was a likely challenger to Clinton?
As another reader points out below Trump is president and the Republicans control both sides of Congress along with most of the state governorships and legislatures. From where I sit it looks like two things are going to happen. One, the protests will change nothing for the next four years because there is no real power behind them. And two, the Democrats are going to try and do exactly what they complained the Republicans did for the past 8 years in stonewalling any attempts to move the country forward just because they lost. "Going to take my toys and go home" attitude.
Newsflash. The reason Trump is in power is because the Democrats only cared about certain things and constituents and forgot about those who had the power to make a change. You got what you deserve for being elitist in your own way.
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I marched back in November-right up to the voting booth and cast my vote for Trump, and unless the Democrats get a drastic overhaul in ideological thinking and get more in touch with mainstream America, I'll make the same march in Novemver 2020.
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News Flash! The world-wide Marches were a huge success. And most of us know that targeted, sustained activism must follow. Who, in their right mind, would not want to interrupt Trump&Co's destructive agenda. Sorry but privatization of effective govt. programs and repealing Obamacare are not the answers. The Emperor has no Clothes; his destruction of the country must be stopped!
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Thank you for your comment. I am liberal, but I like to hear what people who don't (may not) agree with a lot of my issues, say The GOP may get what they modeled by blocking everything from Day 1, so don't complain if that's a piece of what happens. But your conclusion was never lost to me. Hope we Dems - or whatever we morph into - remember this first and foremost.
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Stand tall America!
This article perpetuates the reality that democrats are a collection of disparate interests. That has to end if democrats are to take over the House and Senate in 2018 and the Presidency in 2020. Lots of groups are setting themselves up to be the top group for the coming battles—that ain’t going to work!
Unite and the battles will be cakewalks. Winning the next elections will require the Democratic party to become united, not a bunch of ethnic 'and' racial 'and' sexual 'and' other groups. Effort will have to be made to include the disenfranchised and uneducated who Trump will not serve with his plutocratic cabinet.
Separated groups cannot fight Fox news. Separated groups will not win against the likes of Breitbart News and its Bannon. Fox and Breitbart depend on advertising to stay on the air and on the internet. Each of the separate ‘and’ groups do not have enough clout to stop corporations advertising on these channels. But together they can have that effect.
So, stand tall for all Americans and win. Reach up separately and stay sunk in America.
This article perpetuates the reality that democrats are a collection of disparate interests. That has to end if democrats are to take over the House and Senate in 2018 and the Presidency in 2020. Lots of groups are setting themselves up to be the top group for the coming battles—that ain’t going to work!
Unite and the battles will be cakewalks. Winning the next elections will require the Democratic party to become united, not a bunch of ethnic 'and' racial 'and' sexual 'and' other groups. Effort will have to be made to include the disenfranchised and uneducated who Trump will not serve with his plutocratic cabinet.
Separated groups cannot fight Fox news. Separated groups will not win against the likes of Breitbart News and its Bannon. Fox and Breitbart depend on advertising to stay on the air and on the internet. Each of the separate ‘and’ groups do not have enough clout to stop corporations advertising on these channels. But together they can have that effect.
So, stand tall for all Americans and win. Reach up separately and stay sunk in America.
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I hope something comes of all this. I would like to know how many of the protesters are from red states or swing states whose members of congress are likely to support Trump. It is *those* members of congress who must be subjected to relentless pressure coming from their own constituents. They don't care about the opinions of citizens who do not elect them.
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The example of LePen and co is a bad one.
Our next steps:
A Women's March Coalition: The Movement for Democracy
Put Red State women in positions of prominence to get out of the red-blue box we are in
Pick a top ten wish list and stick to it...Center the movement around Trump and what we despise about him
Environmental protection, gender equality, workers rights, freedom of the press, transparency and access in government, promoting the rule of law around the world
Our next steps:
A Women's March Coalition: The Movement for Democracy
Put Red State women in positions of prominence to get out of the red-blue box we are in
Pick a top ten wish list and stick to it...Center the movement around Trump and what we despise about him
Environmental protection, gender equality, workers rights, freedom of the press, transparency and access in government, promoting the rule of law around the world
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I did not march and I can't say I feel any sort of solidarity with those who did. If the same number of women who took the time to make witty signs and post selfies in pink hats actually took the time to vote on Nov. 8th the inauguration would have been different. If the objective was to reach out to the millions of women who voted for Trump than I would not call it a success. The march appeared to be nothing more than a pity party dripping with self-congratulation. You ask what's next and it would be a safe bet that most of the marchers can not answer that question. I didn't see any articulation of what rights were going to be taken away or the actual civic steps women could take. I would also bet that a large portion of those who marched don't know the name of the Senator who represents them in their State legislature. I'm an ardent supporter of a women's right to choose but I don't need to participate in an advertising/fundraising effort for NARAL and Planned Parenthood under the guise of marching for.....what were they marching for again??
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You are assuming a lot for one who did not even participate.
Those are strong opinions from someone who wasn't even there.
It is our hope the marches that took place will be the beginning of a cohesive movement. It will be a challenge but it has to start somewhere.
It was so much more than pink hats and selfies.
Those are strong opinions from someone who wasn't even there.
It is our hope the marches that took place will be the beginning of a cohesive movement. It will be a challenge but it has to start somewhere.
It was so much more than pink hats and selfies.
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Many were marching against what can now best be described as "alternative facts", which threaten to erode our Democracy, and health and well being, in so many ways that it is difficult to focus on one particular issue.
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That's a lot of negative speculation about the march and the marchers. You really don't know whether we voted: I know I did, and so did my partner, who also marched. I not only know the names of both my senators and my congressman (and my state senator and assemblyman); I follow the news coverage of them with daily Google alerts. As an older woman I know all too well what rights are imperiled for women by the current administration, including reproductive rights. Personally, I wasn't reaching out to Trump voters; they don't respect anyone who disagrees with them, and besides they've made their bed and now have to lie in it with the rest of us. The march was a first step, and a heartening one, in revitalizing people's awareness that we need to get involved. We ignore the political process at our peril; in this world there is no staying above the fray.
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A massive set of parades led by coastal, suburban and urban, upper middle class people focused on identity politics will not change minds in future elections. What does the Democratic Party have on the table to win the minds of struggling lower middle class voters? What does the Democratic Party offer those who do not want anyone, let alone any government official, telling them how to live their lives? At this point, the Democrats are offering an endless set of policies that read as if written by "thought police". It is not surprising that people will vote against their own economic interests if the alternative is a constant threat to their liberty. My advice to the suburban and urban blue county voters is to take a road trip to areas of the country that harvest your food, build your cars and durable goods, and don't care about the latest Lululemon catalogue. You might be surprised about how conservative, rural, hard-working people live and care about their communities -- with a minimum of taxes and government intrusion.
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Why do you say they are voting against their own economic interests? While the GOP has been pro-corporate in the past, Trump emphasized jobs and higher pay over corporate profits from globalization.
So James tell us how much you care about poor or struggling middle-class women? Did your 'care' reflect how you voted in the recent election? Minimum taxes and lack of govt. intervention means that poor and struggling middle-class people get the shaft. The Tea-Party Congress only cares about their benefactors~the uber wealthy~and their policies bear that out. Sorry, but economic libertarian policies, what the 'white elite GOP adore, only benefits the few and harms the many.
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I did not March at the women's march last Saturday but will be attending the March for Life on Friday, January 27, 2017 in solidarity with my brothers and sisters of the pro-life movement. What this pasr weekend was really about was keeping abortion legal and the killing of innocent babies. Pro-life groups were excluded because we do not follow the liberal progressive agenda ofthe Democrats.
I was watching a repeat of the pro-life rally from San Francisco on EWTN last evening and they mentioned that President Trump had signed a bill defunding Planned Parenrhood International. It was a very impressive rally with many fine and sincere speakers. Of course, it did not get the national television coverage of the women's march because it is too conservative for them.
Planned Parenthood has seen some of their facilities close but we need to do more. They provide over 300,000 abortions a year and that is 300,000 too many. We have been gaining in support from college-educated young people who see abortion as evil. They make up the bulk of our marchers in Washington and they only grow stronger and larger.
Cecile Richards of Planned Parenthood knows she is losing the battle for the support of PP among Americsns and she is very concerned. She may be out of a very cushy job soon. We will not stop until abortions end and innocent lives in the womb are saved.
I was watching a repeat of the pro-life rally from San Francisco on EWTN last evening and they mentioned that President Trump had signed a bill defunding Planned Parenrhood International. It was a very impressive rally with many fine and sincere speakers. Of course, it did not get the national television coverage of the women's march because it is too conservative for them.
Planned Parenthood has seen some of their facilities close but we need to do more. They provide over 300,000 abortions a year and that is 300,000 too many. We have been gaining in support from college-educated young people who see abortion as evil. They make up the bulk of our marchers in Washington and they only grow stronger and larger.
Cecile Richards of Planned Parenthood knows she is losing the battle for the support of PP among Americsns and she is very concerned. She may be out of a very cushy job soon. We will not stop until abortions end and innocent lives in the womb are saved.
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Get out of the bubble. I had to when Trump was elected. I really did not think he could be elected but he was. You need to understand that many do not agree with you on your anti-abortion stance and it is our right not to agree. Your world view and morality is yours and mine is mine. Never the twain shall meet. We need to agree to disagree and stop demonizing one another.
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Planned Parenthood has been getting donations from millions of women since Mr. Trump won the Presidency. Planned Parenthood, despite the right's anti-women agenda, is a place where thousands of poor women across the country have received health care for decades. They have been a lifeline for these women. While the anti-women right-wing wants everyone to believe that Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill, but the facts and stats don't bear that out. Providing mammograms, pap smears, breast exams, cervical cancer screening and counseling is the bulk of what they do. Not funding Planned Parenthood HURTS WOMEN!
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When I was my daughters age, it was estimated that there were about 4 billion people on the planet. It was recently estimated that there are now about 7 billion people on our planet. So, in about 40 years, give or take, we've added 3 billion to the roster. What we are being told now is that because of the increase, we will add the next 3 billion people in half the time it took us to add the last 3 billion. So, in 20 to 25 years, we will then have about 10 billion people on earth. We will have to feed, cloth, house, and educate these people. Many will become consumers. From a strictly Market/business standpoint, great. More customers, more growth. Except that our planet cannot sustain this growth. WMK, people like you think you are going to get a gold star from St. Peter for your efforts and that when you die, you are not really going to die, but will live in heaven for all eternity. But the rest of us "sinners" know that the course you and your republican friends is actually suicidal. Moral relativism? Perhaps. Life is all about choices. I've made mine.
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As one of the 750,000 of the peaceful marchers in Los Angeles I can easily say the most profound things the march accomplished are: the confirmation of solidarity, the confirmation that inclusion and diversity is what makes this nation strong, and the confirmation that when we work together for a common cause we can accomplish great things. In a bizarre way, the Trump administration might be the best thing to happen to American politics. People who sat back, comfortable in the knowledge that they were on the "right side of history," are now standing up and making sure that history is protected. Progressives have been the silent majority for a long time. Now, we're finally speaking up. Get ready, cuz it's gonna get loud.
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Women should start flexing their economic power. For example, encourage their professional organizations to avoid having conventions and meetings in states that are enacting laws that restrict women's reproductive freedom. When corporations started doing that over the transgender issue it was effective in splitting social conservatives from fiscal conservatives. Women have enormous economic power. Let's use it.
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I strongly think there should be an umbrella group composed of all participants that stands for preserving civil liberties and democracy under the Constitution. All the various groups have legitimate platforms that can be pursued, but there must be a cohesive, inclusive, informative place/website to go to. Our strength is in numbers and from one organization point we can mobilize as needed.
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There is one called Women's March on Washington with actions listed for continued involvement.
The direction to go from here is Solidarity. Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street and other major advocacy groups must collaborate and coordinate, focusing on a series of common democratic issues which can then be brought into focus for the 2018 Election cycle. "Smaller Government" is nothing more than a euphemism for cutting social programs. As we have seen from countless interviews of people who identify as Conservative and/or Republican, they see only "Welfare" as the social program they wish to be cut; believing all those receiving Public Assistance are Lazy, Shiftless and want a Free Ride. Racists see most of them as Black Americans. Nothing could be further from the Truth. People need to be informed about the expenditures paid for by their taxes; to whom they go, what percentage of the budget actually supports them, the diversity of programs and citizens assisted by tax dollars support. Targeting Conservative and Republican legislators with the same volume of protest in their respective states could actually be accomplished through Solidarity. We can not allow the momentum of the Women's March to fall to nothing but a proud memory. These women and men got this resistance party started, it is now our responsibility to make sure it continues!
Scott E. Torquato, MS, LCSW
Scott E. Torquato, MS, LCSW
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"But the leaders believe that the common thread — revulsion and contempt for the man who is now president — may be powerful enough
But at the panel on Saturday in Washington, organizers passionately endorsed the new demographic majority. They argued that without including the needs of minority, immigrant, Muslim and marginalized women, feminism would not rally a broad enough coalition, and Democrats would lose the presidency again."
Identity politics as a primary message is why Democrats have been losing since Obama was elected, converging on 'Not Trump' is why they lost the last election, but it appears that Democrats are ready to double down on a losing platform. This is a signature more associated with cults than political parties, where values have replaced the ability to reason, to work out pragmatic solutions, and to demean others who do not share their beliefs. Yes, that also describes the GOP and is why we are so polarized.
The difference between the above and the GOP is that some elements started a grass roots organization to change the GOP, and they eventually did it. Another difference is that our government was designed to prevent a few large states from controlling the country, and the Democrats currently appear to be on the losing side in a protracted war of polarized politics. This means the Democrats will have to appeal to those outside of their current base, and like it or not that is politics.
But at the panel on Saturday in Washington, organizers passionately endorsed the new demographic majority. They argued that without including the needs of minority, immigrant, Muslim and marginalized women, feminism would not rally a broad enough coalition, and Democrats would lose the presidency again."
Identity politics as a primary message is why Democrats have been losing since Obama was elected, converging on 'Not Trump' is why they lost the last election, but it appears that Democrats are ready to double down on a losing platform. This is a signature more associated with cults than political parties, where values have replaced the ability to reason, to work out pragmatic solutions, and to demean others who do not share their beliefs. Yes, that also describes the GOP and is why we are so polarized.
The difference between the above and the GOP is that some elements started a grass roots organization to change the GOP, and they eventually did it. Another difference is that our government was designed to prevent a few large states from controlling the country, and the Democrats currently appear to be on the losing side in a protracted war of polarized politics. This means the Democrats will have to appeal to those outside of their current base, and like it or not that is politics.
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Trumps "shoot from the hip" mentality, now figurative, but with the real potential of being literal, presents a danger to the entire world. With no understanding, much less appreciation of the efforts to preserve peace and create an intentional culture based on agreed upon norms, he is like a child playing a video war game.
We have learned in the last two days that the mantle of President has only unleashed the worst of his propensities. Most frighteningly is creating a fawning circle within the White House that echoes his delusions, such as the size of the crowd of acolytes at the inauguration.
Nothing short of a continuing growing international movement, demonstrations in the model of M.L. King and Mahatma Gandhi, that like those, must be absolutely non violent, could make those Republican office holders take notice. Gradually those under Trump's thrall will see that this is not petulant Democrats, but the world that is expressing its fear and outrage.
At this moment the specifics of constituency and programs must be deferred to make this a worldwide movement that leads to Donald Trump's removal from this position with limitless potential for harm.
AlRodbell.com
We have learned in the last two days that the mantle of President has only unleashed the worst of his propensities. Most frighteningly is creating a fawning circle within the White House that echoes his delusions, such as the size of the crowd of acolytes at the inauguration.
Nothing short of a continuing growing international movement, demonstrations in the model of M.L. King and Mahatma Gandhi, that like those, must be absolutely non violent, could make those Republican office holders take notice. Gradually those under Trump's thrall will see that this is not petulant Democrats, but the world that is expressing its fear and outrage.
At this moment the specifics of constituency and programs must be deferred to make this a worldwide movement that leads to Donald Trump's removal from this position with limitless potential for harm.
AlRodbell.com
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Occupy Wall Street did not succeed in bringing political change because the President and both parties in Washington were in opposition to the change we were fighting for. Geithner was Obama's Treasury Secretary. Schumer is, and has always been, completely owned by the major banks. Hillary Clinton was running around making millions giving speeches to her friends at the banks that destroyed the global economy and the Democratic party machine then shoved her down the throats of the party base that desperately wanted change and conspired to make sure the real candidate for change could never win.
We cannot expect Trump or right wing Republicans to change. They represent the interests of billionaires and ruthless corporations. We must demand that Democrats change. We must have a Democratic party that stands for economic and social justice, that stands for accountability, that stands for health care as a right, that stands for the environment, that stands for civil and women's rights, that stands for good public education as a right, that stands against the corrupting influence of corporate and special interest money in politics.
Right now, that party does not exist in America. That is the political change this movement must be about.
We cannot expect Trump or right wing Republicans to change. They represent the interests of billionaires and ruthless corporations. We must demand that Democrats change. We must have a Democratic party that stands for economic and social justice, that stands for accountability, that stands for health care as a right, that stands for the environment, that stands for civil and women's rights, that stands for good public education as a right, that stands against the corrupting influence of corporate and special interest money in politics.
Right now, that party does not exist in America. That is the political change this movement must be about.
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Why are the left such bad losers when they lose elections? In a democracy the voters can go either way and the maturity of the democracy is the acceptance of the result whether it goes for you or not. In the UK, the metro-elite could not believe the people were so stupid as to vote the way they did. They would like a second and third and fourth referendum until the "right result" is achieved. In the US a similar environment exists that bottom line is that the marchers don't accept the Trump victory. Well get over it, he won! Personally, I don't care for Trump but neither choice was appealing. Hillary was bad choice and a terrible candidate. If the "Celebs" don't like Trump they need to look at themselves and blame the Democratic Party for essentially fixing the nomination. In the end Trump was more in touch with the heartland of American than either his Republican rivals and Hillary Clinton. Hillary had the big cities, but did not reach out to the concerns of the miners, autoworkers and steelworkers. Trump did and that is why he won. The march on Saturday was presumably by the wealthy liberal elite who really have no answers to problems and just dislike Trump. Not a very democratic group.
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Talk about sore losers! You think that conservatives did right by Mr. Obama? Another instance of reversing reality. This is what democracy looks like.
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Liberal elites?! LOL! I live in a City where 100,000 marched. I saw a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic group of men and women. When fascism comes to America, it is a citizen's responsibility to march, which is exactly what we did in Red and Blue States across the country. Very heartening. Now the real work begins.
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I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, and I'd say that Republicans are just as much sore losers, if not more so. People on the right ragged on Obama for years, just like the Bush haters complained about him non-stop. Republicans practically invented spite politics, with their Green Eggs n' Ham reading and "birther" accusations, and before that, endless attempts to impeach Bill Clinton. Affordable Care isn't perfect, but there was a real need for so many Americans to have access to healthcare. It would never have happened without Obama.
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So where were these women election day? "Emerging demographic majority", what nonsense, Democrats outnumbered Republicans going into this election. It was their's to lose and lose it they did by putting up an awful candidate with a low approval rating among her own party.
As to blacks they didn't come out for Hillary in the same numbers they did for Obama. Part of it is Hillary's negatives and part of it was disappointment with Obama. At the end of the day blacks suffer as much (or m ore) than any worker when jobs move to Mexico so the old Democrat identity politics may have lost it's magic.
As to blacks they didn't come out for Hillary in the same numbers they did for Obama. Part of it is Hillary's negatives and part of it was disappointment with Obama. At the end of the day blacks suffer as much (or m ore) than any worker when jobs move to Mexico so the old Democrat identity politics may have lost it's magic.
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I did vote--against Trump, as did most of the people in my state of CA. Just check how many votes Hillary won by in CA.
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All of these women were there Election Day. Along with millions of other women who voted for President Trump and skipped the Marches, more than 4 out of 10. The latter are not Official Women, but, as of this writing, their votes continue to count.
What makes you think the marchers didn't vote? Clinton won the popular vote by 2.9 million. Seems more likely to me that these already engaged citizens whose candidate lost were demonstrating their continued opposition to Trump's character and policies.
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The protests showed ourselves how large our numbers are.
We needed to see, feel and hear our numbers. See who is in our movement.
That pissed of putins puppet on Saturday. He had a meltdown through his first public comment as "president".
There were more marchers than those who went to his inauguration.
The marchs showed us there are more of us then his constituents. About 3 million for Clinton and 5 million did not vote for either. So actually 8 million.
This isn't even counting the disenfranchised voters who were stripped of their civil right to vote. Read Greg Palast from the Rollingstone magazine on this.
Now we know we have the numbers, now en masse we need to bombard our local leaders our senators or congress people with our voices and our objections. If they want to be reflected they better listen.
We need to channel our galvanized, passion, integrity, compassion, energy anger fear and HOPE.
Let's get this movement started as independent from any party. Self sustaining self financed, indivisible!!!!
We needed to see, feel and hear our numbers. See who is in our movement.
That pissed of putins puppet on Saturday. He had a meltdown through his first public comment as "president".
There were more marchers than those who went to his inauguration.
The marchs showed us there are more of us then his constituents. About 3 million for Clinton and 5 million did not vote for either. So actually 8 million.
This isn't even counting the disenfranchised voters who were stripped of their civil right to vote. Read Greg Palast from the Rollingstone magazine on this.
Now we know we have the numbers, now en masse we need to bombard our local leaders our senators or congress people with our voices and our objections. If they want to be reflected they better listen.
We need to channel our galvanized, passion, integrity, compassion, energy anger fear and HOPE.
Let's get this movement started as independent from any party. Self sustaining self financed, indivisible!!!!
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I agree with President Obama and Eric Holder. Concentrate on redistricting and state races. Dems have no bench. Encourage people to run and give them the tools to win.
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Now what ? Well, it's obvious. Keep up the pressure.
March again and again and again. Mobilize and act.
March again and again and again. Mobilize and act.
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Though I consider myself fairly liberal--and certainly not a fan of Trump--I did not choose to participate. However, it seems that nearly everyone that I know did attend the various marches across the country. My Facebook wall became an unending stream of self-congratulatory, self-satisfied smugness that I soon found unbearable. What little credibility and impact this march may have had was lessened by the ridiculous pink hats, as well as the celebrity speakers whose crazy rhetoric did nothing but further alienate the large percentage of working class women that voted for Trump.
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You get it. The Republicans are picking off members of the Democratic coalition with policy alternative. If Trump is successful, he will pick up many more.
Who are the Democrats picking up? You may say the young people, but unfortunately they have marked tendency to get older, marry, buy houses, and have families. Then they may not be so happy with the Democrats.
Who are the Democrats picking up? You may say the young people, but unfortunately they have marked tendency to get older, marry, buy houses, and have families. Then they may not be so happy with the Democrats.
Didn't look thast way to me on Saturday.
We now have more unity. There are so many concerns with Trump's Presidency. We have to be careful to not lose focus on what will really change things.
I feel we need to focus on bombarding our current elected officials on not repealing the ACA, investigating Trump's probable conflicts of interest, ties to Russia and if Comey violated the Hatch Act. This will help our cause and raise large credibility issues with Trump and Republicans.
I also believe the Republicans won the House and Senate because Trump was on the ticket. There may be lower turnout from his supporters in 2018. In turn the Democrats need to turn out in droves. Mid-term turnout for them has been a problem in the past. We need to target swing state's districts to make sure this happens.
I feel we need to focus on bombarding our current elected officials on not repealing the ACA, investigating Trump's probable conflicts of interest, ties to Russia and if Comey violated the Hatch Act. This will help our cause and raise large credibility issues with Trump and Republicans.
I also believe the Republicans won the House and Senate because Trump was on the ticket. There may be lower turnout from his supporters in 2018. In turn the Democrats need to turn out in droves. Mid-term turnout for them has been a problem in the past. We need to target swing state's districts to make sure this happens.
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Since the march, I've organized a FB group for activism, gotten on the phone, had my kids write letters, planned next trip to lobby in DC and talked about boycotts. I am not going away. In fact, I'm bringing allies to the table.
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Yes a list of products and places to boycott is a great idea. Nothing puts pressure on like a hit to the wallet. Aside from the Trump towers, what are his other products of major involvement?
This is useless if the opposing groups makes it a point to support these businesses, and buy their products. If you look at the history of these sorts of boycotts, the right has been far more successful than the left.
Protest has become so routinized that it's largely seen by lawmakers as a form of blowing off steam. A couple of minor gestures toward protesters is usually enough to cool them down. What really gets their attention, as Gitlin suggests, is when they elect a chair, a secretary, and especially a treasurer and start taking concrete action. Organization wakes up lawmakers much more than protest "movement."
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Will Rogers said: "I belong to no organized political party. I'm a Democrat."
Ralph Waldo Emerson said: "A sect or party is a elegant incognito to save a man the trouble of thinking."
Democrats are disorganized and can't fight because they are thinkers. Republicans are unthinking cattle and can be rounded up and herded by the dogs of the Oligarchy.
We (I'm a Democrat) can't work together and can't be directed because we are cats and all go our own way. It will take a terrible catastrophe and a brilliant politician to bring us together to use our demographic strength at the polls. This was the secret of FDR: the Great Depression and brilliance.
Ralph Waldo Emerson said: "A sect or party is a elegant incognito to save a man the trouble of thinking."
Democrats are disorganized and can't fight because they are thinkers. Republicans are unthinking cattle and can be rounded up and herded by the dogs of the Oligarchy.
We (I'm a Democrat) can't work together and can't be directed because we are cats and all go our own way. It will take a terrible catastrophe and a brilliant politician to bring us together to use our demographic strength at the polls. This was the secret of FDR: the Great Depression and brilliance.
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The time to start to fight is NOW. Don't wait. Letter writing is a good project for being waist deep in snow.
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I marched with my sisters, mother-in-law, and friends from church. We are already discussing the plan for the future and the way forward. For all of those who downplay the importance of Saturday, we have our eyes on you, too. When thousands of people show up in small, Southern, red cities and towns - not just D.C. and New York and L.A. - you all need to pay attention to us. We are not going away.
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you, you, you. sounds like it's all about? YOU! Be sure to keep us posted on all you do, good luck with galvanizing your agenda along with every other protestors personal-agenda. Maybe start here, consider this comment :
Jackl Somewhere in the mountains of Upstate NY 3 hours ago
"Geez, the past election shows what the uniting issue is: extreme wealth and income inequality, and the related greed of the plutocracy to buy politicians of both parties to do their bidding to increase their power and wealth at the expense of everyone else.
Let's not keep fighting amongst ourselves about whether "womens issues", or "black lives matter", or "LGBT rights" are more important and come together on the one issue which underlies all these ills and that 330 million Americans can agree on: that we are being deprived of a decent standard of living, a secure retirement, health care and life itself, by a deep state cabal of a few dozen billionaires (some of whom are in the swamp of the proposed cabinet) whose greed and lack of caring about the commonweal resemble villains out of Marvel comics or James Bond movies"
Jackl Somewhere in the mountains of Upstate NY 3 hours ago
"Geez, the past election shows what the uniting issue is: extreme wealth and income inequality, and the related greed of the plutocracy to buy politicians of both parties to do their bidding to increase their power and wealth at the expense of everyone else.
Let's not keep fighting amongst ourselves about whether "womens issues", or "black lives matter", or "LGBT rights" are more important and come together on the one issue which underlies all these ills and that 330 million Americans can agree on: that we are being deprived of a decent standard of living, a secure retirement, health care and life itself, by a deep state cabal of a few dozen billionaires (some of whom are in the swamp of the proposed cabinet) whose greed and lack of caring about the commonweal resemble villains out of Marvel comics or James Bond movies"
Exactly! I marched with three friends, one of whom had her 60-something mother-in-law with her. There were people marching everywhere - in small Alaskan towns in frigid weather, in large cities throughout the nation, in suburban areas - everywhere! The organizers of the march I attended had estimated that there would be about 1,000 people in attendance; 5,000 showed up. A relative of mine was one of 200 people who marched in her small rural town, located in a very red area of upstate New York. We are not going quietly into that good night.
The Occupy movement, The Bernie Sanders movement, the Woman's March; it is always the same ---- how to channel the energy after the event successfully. At this point the energy NEEDS to be channeled, so that theses movements don't just appear to be a loud scream, followed by back to business as usual.
TRUE change takes hard work, diligence, backsliding and commitment to the long hard slog --- ask anyone who has accomplished change, personal or on a larger scale. People do not generally like change --- to effect change is to go against a mud-like adherence to the known.
The sad part of all of these flash-in-the -pan movements is that they all were generally protesting the same thing; the rise of a wealthy one percent and the disappearance of the middle class.
We are in this spot, in part, because the establishment could only hand up two mediocre candidates for this last election; God help us that this is the end of poor choices; hope a lot of those marchers get real and start finding worthwhile leaders to put into the political stream.
TRUE change takes hard work, diligence, backsliding and commitment to the long hard slog --- ask anyone who has accomplished change, personal or on a larger scale. People do not generally like change --- to effect change is to go against a mud-like adherence to the known.
The sad part of all of these flash-in-the -pan movements is that they all were generally protesting the same thing; the rise of a wealthy one percent and the disappearance of the middle class.
We are in this spot, in part, because the establishment could only hand up two mediocre candidates for this last election; God help us that this is the end of poor choices; hope a lot of those marchers get real and start finding worthwhile leaders to put into the political stream.
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We need to make sure the Trumps keep their bags packed. Keep up the pressure!!
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I commend you for stating so succinctly how we should react to the Trumps. Bravo!
I just sent a letter to Senator Toomey urging him not to defund Planned Parenthood. I pointed out the problem with defunding one of the few low cost healthcare options while also dismantling the ACA. Not like he'll listen, but I can hope, I guess.
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Congress hates women almost as much as they hate poor people. To them tax dollars spent for health care is money better spend on a tax cut for rich people who will support his next campaign. Despite the fact that not a single tax dollar was spent for any abortions, they will continue to use that lie to kill health care for women across the board. This is how the GOP unites America.
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I heard that they dismiss emails and letters but the phone ringing off the hook can't be ignored. CALL TOOMYS OFFICE.
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Thank you, Anne! I hope thousands more follow. Sad to read the anti-women comments on this thread. If enough people from Red States beginning calling their elected representatives repeatedly, pretty soon, it will make a difference! Paul Lyin' Ryan needs to be targeted for defeat. His very mean-spirited policy proposals, if enacted will be horrendous for women!
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What' Next? Every single one of us who care about democracy in America must pick one thing we value most and fight like hell to save/preserve/restore it.
The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron Party will try to destroy as much as possible in as short a time possible so grassroots organizations in segments like Women's Rights, The Environment, Justice, Finance, Voting, Gun Control, Education, etc. must work together and rouse their members to take physical action to retain the thing most important to them.
One woman told me yesterday that Social Security is her main concern and I suggested she contact the local Senior Center and see if there is a group to work to save and strengthen Social Security. If not, she can start one. Seniors cannot depend on AARP or politicians to save it. Only a concentrated public outpouring like yesterday's will get their attention.
WE must get lawmakers and enforcers working for US again. As one commenter pointed out last week, women have only ONE Constitutional Right in America. To vote. Our Moms, Grandmothers, Great Grandmothers fought for 140 years to get that one right and it's been 100 years since women were finally "allowed" to vote.
NOW IS THE TIME TO JOIN TOGETHER AND GET THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT TO OUR UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PASSED that says NO law shall be passed in The United States OF America that discriminates based on gender, WE MUST STOP THE ATTACKS ON WOMEN'S BODIES AND LIVES.
The Con Don and his Top 1% Global Financial Elite Robber Baron Party will try to destroy as much as possible in as short a time possible so grassroots organizations in segments like Women's Rights, The Environment, Justice, Finance, Voting, Gun Control, Education, etc. must work together and rouse their members to take physical action to retain the thing most important to them.
One woman told me yesterday that Social Security is her main concern and I suggested she contact the local Senior Center and see if there is a group to work to save and strengthen Social Security. If not, she can start one. Seniors cannot depend on AARP or politicians to save it. Only a concentrated public outpouring like yesterday's will get their attention.
WE must get lawmakers and enforcers working for US again. As one commenter pointed out last week, women have only ONE Constitutional Right in America. To vote. Our Moms, Grandmothers, Great Grandmothers fought for 140 years to get that one right and it's been 100 years since women were finally "allowed" to vote.
NOW IS THE TIME TO JOIN TOGETHER AND GET THE EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT TO OUR UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION PASSED that says NO law shall be passed in The United States OF America that discriminates based on gender, WE MUST STOP THE ATTACKS ON WOMEN'S BODIES AND LIVES.
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Now what? Easy, vote in 2018
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What's next ? More women need to run for office. Yes you can
"Ms. Le Pen (FN , France) and Frauke Petry (ADF, Germany) who hope to lead the right’s advance ... The task of negotiating a British exit has fallen to a third woman, Prime Minister Theresa May. All three are now arrayed against Ms. Merkel, who has been in power 11 years ."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/world/europe/marine-le-pen-extols-far...
What is possible ought to be possible in the US
"Ms. Le Pen (FN , France) and Frauke Petry (ADF, Germany) who hope to lead the right’s advance ... The task of negotiating a British exit has fallen to a third woman, Prime Minister Theresa May. All three are now arrayed against Ms. Merkel, who has been in power 11 years ."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/21/world/europe/marine-le-pen-extols-far...
What is possible ought to be possible in the US
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Socially Conscious Women, Woof. Not the Sarah Palin, Conway, Coulter, Ingram crowd. No females who are haters/destroyers need apply.
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Now what? We need to stay in the streets, form natural coalitions with other groups, and put pressure on the three branches of government. It still may not turn out well because we're not dealing with a normal situation here.
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Where were these people on election day? I've often heard people say they don't vote because it doesn't matter. Evidently it does.
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Almost 3 million more voted for Clinton than Trump, and the majority of those people were marching. Those 3 million, plus more, are ready to vote in the 2018 midterm elections, to replace the Republicans in Congress who enable Trump. Midterms usually have low turnout, but not next year's. People will be voting to save their medical insurance, save Social Security and Medicare, save the environment, save education, save women's and minority rights and stop Trump.
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They did vote. Clinton won by 3M votes. She lost because Trump won the white working-class about in Rust Belt states that usually go to the Democrats – Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio – and also won in Florida.
Trump's con job convinced these uninformed voters, who don't really understand how government works, that President Obama had failed them, when, in fact, he reduced the unemployment rate to below 5%, provided many with healthcare, including through expanded Medicaidd ACA subsidies, and avoided a second grea depression that would have plunged those same Trump voters into permanent poverty. The ACA had defects because Republicans and right wing Democrats blocked in Congress, provisions that would have avoided or cured such defects. The President could not override Congressinal gridlock or the Republicans' determination to block anything he did, regardless of the public interest.
Manufacturing jobs are going overseas because our economy is now a global one. We need to develop new industries for people who have been displaced, not pretend that the old jobs will come back. Coal mining is no more returning to W. Virginia, than blacksmiths are to lower Manhattan.
I marched in New York City, along with nearly half a million other people - probably 95% of whom voted for Clinton, as opposed to Jill Stein. Around the country, voters were marching and marchers were voters. Trump's victory is a fluke that has put our entire nation, if not the world, at great risk.
Trump's con job convinced these uninformed voters, who don't really understand how government works, that President Obama had failed them, when, in fact, he reduced the unemployment rate to below 5%, provided many with healthcare, including through expanded Medicaidd ACA subsidies, and avoided a second grea depression that would have plunged those same Trump voters into permanent poverty. The ACA had defects because Republicans and right wing Democrats blocked in Congress, provisions that would have avoided or cured such defects. The President could not override Congressinal gridlock or the Republicans' determination to block anything he did, regardless of the public interest.
Manufacturing jobs are going overseas because our economy is now a global one. We need to develop new industries for people who have been displaced, not pretend that the old jobs will come back. Coal mining is no more returning to W. Virginia, than blacksmiths are to lower Manhattan.
I marched in New York City, along with nearly half a million other people - probably 95% of whom voted for Clinton, as opposed to Jill Stein. Around the country, voters were marching and marchers were voters. Trump's victory is a fluke that has put our entire nation, if not the world, at great risk.
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Why do people keep saying this as though they weren't voting? I voted. I protested. His opponent received more than 3 million more votes than he did; so it seems pretty clear to me they were also out voting.
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Nice parade, impressive numbers.
But the Republicans still hold the Presidency, both Houses of Congress, most Governorships and State Legislatures, and are about to install a Conservative majority on the Supreme Court.
Where were all these folks during the election campaign?
Probably complaining about Bernie getting hosed!
But the Republicans still hold the Presidency, both Houses of Congress, most Governorships and State Legislatures, and are about to install a Conservative majority on the Supreme Court.
Where were all these folks during the election campaign?
Probably complaining about Bernie getting hosed!
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Who cares? We are where we are and moving forward is what's important.
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Perhaps they were in shock as they watched Tim Kaine attempt to fight his way out of a wet paper debate.
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Or too high to get to the poles
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Accept the fact that Donald Trump won the election and get on with you life. Thank you.
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I accept that he won the election and is legally the president, but everything else I reject.
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We are getting on with our lives. And that means mobilizing to make sure we get DT and his cabinet out of office as quickly as possible.
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Let me guess 'Southern Boy', you are a straight white male with the least to lose.
You don't "get it", and I suppose that's okay, but if you cannot take the time to look outside your privileged bubble and learn something about the plight of those who are were not born with your automatic advantage, please at least do us all the favor of not judging those who actually do get it.
Right now, as we speak, republicans are passing legislation to take rights away from women. Like the taliban, they want to tell us what we can and cannot do with our own bodies.
As we speak, they are working to remove access to affordable women's healthcare such as cancer screenings to women in rural areas who otherwise don't have access by defunding Planned Parenthood.
Their stated platform is to make it legal for people to discriminate against gays, and for parents of gay children to force their kids into conversion therapy based on 'religious freedom'. Did you know viagra is covered by insurance but in many cases birth control is not?
So, sit down and shut up while we fight for the privileges you clearly take for granted.
You don't "get it", and I suppose that's okay, but if you cannot take the time to look outside your privileged bubble and learn something about the plight of those who are were not born with your automatic advantage, please at least do us all the favor of not judging those who actually do get it.
Right now, as we speak, republicans are passing legislation to take rights away from women. Like the taliban, they want to tell us what we can and cannot do with our own bodies.
As we speak, they are working to remove access to affordable women's healthcare such as cancer screenings to women in rural areas who otherwise don't have access by defunding Planned Parenthood.
Their stated platform is to make it legal for people to discriminate against gays, and for parents of gay children to force their kids into conversion therapy based on 'religious freedom'. Did you know viagra is covered by insurance but in many cases birth control is not?
So, sit down and shut up while we fight for the privileges you clearly take for granted.
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A critical part of what to do next is to take the Congress away for the Republicans in 2018. This will minimize the damage King Trump can do until 2020 when he is voted out of the whitehouse.
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The House will remain GOP, period.
Given the makeup of the elections in 2018, the GOP will very likely increase the number of seats they hold in the Senate to a full blown filibuster proof majority.
Given the makeup of the elections in 2018, the GOP will very likely increase the number of seats they hold in the Senate to a full blown filibuster proof majority.
With that attitude it could be 2024!
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Or impeached! Why are we not hearing more about some of his more blatant unconstitutional actions and traitorous statements?
"Now what" is Trump displaying his rage at women for upstaging his feeble inauguration by attacking their rights in as many ways as possible.
And he has the self-righteous Mike Pence and hateful Steve Bannon at his elbows to guide him.
And he has the self-righteous Mike Pence and hateful Steve Bannon at his elbows to guide him.
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I see a civil war coming, as mid America is not going to be told what to do and think by the east and west coast. America will break up into 50 separate countries, with some alliances among the states. I give this united states about 20 years. Well it's been good to know ya.
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There were marches in every state and on every continent. Trump has inadvertently united the country against him. I guess he did make America great again.
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2.5 million Californians voted for Donald Trump and remain on standby.
Not all all. Women marched all across this country and that includes the Midwest.
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What's next? Next, we identify new leadership of the Democratic party who are capable of preventing the reelection of Trump and what he stands for from happening again in 2020.
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If you marched, get on the phone to your senators and congressperson and tell them to either save the ACA or improve it. Tell them to protect Medicare, and that "protect" does not mean "cut" or "privatize". Unless Congress gets the message, Bannon, Pence, and Ryan will get their way while Trump plays with Twitter and fibs about the weather.
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Other than increasing phone usage benefitting Verizon and AT&T the marchers who primarily come from bubble states like Calif., NY and Mass. should realize they are on the wrong side of history. Perhaps they should join Cher in colonizing Jupiter.
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@ John Smith: With CA having the world's 6th biggest economy, it's looking like you're the boy in a bubble. Wise up.
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The marches got attention.
Trump may not last and that would promote Pence. Pence has a record of gender, class and sexual bias but he is smart. The marches should continue to ensure the message is understood by senators, representatives and Pence.
To continue as a world leader America needs a culture of justice, equality, opportunity and healthy citizens.
Trump may not last and that would promote Pence. Pence has a record of gender, class and sexual bias but he is smart. The marches should continue to ensure the message is understood by senators, representatives and Pence.
To continue as a world leader America needs a culture of justice, equality, opportunity and healthy citizens.
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The marches are useless unless they are bipartisan. To exclude some women while claiming you are marching for women's rights simply exposes what the march was really about. Your numbers are simply not large enough to make any sort of statement. The 2M women who marched represent a miniscule percentage of the 126 million women in this country all of whom have their own ideas about what women's rights are. Who are you to decide for everyone?
@ Lori: Women ignorant of their rights or those who self-repress need to be represented too.
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I respect that we likely hold some common values and some different opinions. You are welcome to March, call your representatives, start petitions and make your priorities heard. Let our representatives govern for the majority not self interest.
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The variety of people and their causes, including the many men at the many marches around the world, show how the resistance to Trump is a reaction to the disregard he and his cabal have for those they see as inferior. These oppressions intersect with each other. The next opportunity to resist this agenda will be the global Climate March on April 29th. It will prove to be the largest global display of solidarity ever achieved on this planet. We are all subjected to oppression when the current administration takes climate change off the table in favor of issues they want to promote. We are all subjected to oppression when they erase the climate data from the .gov website. Like the 79 year old woman who told me in D.C. on Saturday, "This is the first time I ever attended a march, but this time I had to," you might tell this administration that you demand a future free of fossil fuels--and that you demand an administration that isn't created for the explicit purpose of favoring oil companies. Climate change impacts all areas of life. If you think the Women's march made a difference, even more voices can be heard on April 29th.
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By the snark and reflexive denial of the Trump Kool Aid Crowd this march shook their straw house of fraud built on a fraudulent foundation. But, the most powerful message of the masses is to our congress. I suggest The March designate 10 representatives a week to receive messages that ACA must be preserved an improved. Russian interference with our Democracy must be independently investigated. Self-dealing and violations of the Emoluments Clause must be stopped immediately and investigated.
As #TraitorTrump puts it ""TrustMe"" congressional representatives bombed by 1,000,000 messages will pay attention. They care about themselves above all else. No one will sacrifice themselves for President Bone Spurs.
As #TraitorTrump puts it ""TrustMe"" congressional representatives bombed by 1,000,000 messages will pay attention. They care about themselves above all else. No one will sacrifice themselves for President Bone Spurs.
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I would add, "Make Trump Show Us His Taxes!!!" - but, we'll just hear a bunch of baloney and lies about how he doesn't have to and it isn't raining when its pouring.
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I agree. Pressure by focussed attention upon selected congress and senate members will give them a powerful message. They have the visual of the march. Let's not dissipate that energy into the commonplace. Save the marching for special provocations. But, focus the rage in writing and outreach, nightmare visions of double the voting turnout dumping incumbents for those who will vow to DUMP TRUMP!
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Make him show us his taxes during his impeachment trial!!!
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What's next? We are organizing. We are volunteering. We are donating to causes. We are writing and phoning our Representatives and Senators. We are forming committees. We are working toward 2018 election. We are protecting the weak and vulnerable among us.
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The weak and vulnerable? Could you be any more arrogant? You are protecting your own political ideology and nothing more. The weak and vulnerable are already protected in this nation. It is those who can but don't that have the greatest to fear. Get out and work in the public sector for some first hand knowledge of what's really going on.
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Time to start running for office!
We need more women in positions of power and it starts at the lowest level. Run for school board, local city council or really any elected position.
Don't let the misinformation and rhetoric tell you otherwise - never give up and always believe you're better than people tell you. This can be an amazing country but sometimes you HAVE to fight for it.
Keep the momentum going, don't slow down. Now is the time.
We need more women in positions of power and it starts at the lowest level. Run for school board, local city council or really any elected position.
Don't let the misinformation and rhetoric tell you otherwise - never give up and always believe you're better than people tell you. This can be an amazing country but sometimes you HAVE to fight for it.
Keep the momentum going, don't slow down. Now is the time.
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The time was during the Clinton admin when women's rights were in the worst shape, and Bill Clinton was - well, Bill Clinton. Since the dems took no action then, the wind will likely not push the sails much now. The hypocrisy is too telling.
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Unfortunately, all this marching in the streets will have zero effect on Trump, his team, or the GOP. The GOP has been playing the long game with disinformation, gerrymandering, and obstruction politics - while the Dems demonstrate in the streets thinking that it will make a difference. The GOP is playing chess and the Dems are playing checkers. If the DNC does not find a tough and creative leader, the Dems will continue losing and whining. Unfortunately, the best man for the job, and the last one to do it well, Howard Dean, was denied the opportunity to restore some firepower to the DNC. This is going to be a long, long ugly 4 years or more.
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It will have zero effect because:
it does not represent all women
it does not support any policies to solve economic problems or inner city problems
it does not support anyone that isn't anti-Trump
it does not represent all women
it does not support any policies to solve economic problems or inner city problems
it does not support anyone that isn't anti-Trump
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The Dems have no real agenda, don't know who they are, and have lost connection with the real people of America. Present a decent human being in four years, and things may be different. This is a DNC problem as much as an RNC one. Until the Dems recognize that, nothing will change.
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Two things: 1. Petition the government – congressmen, senators and other elected officials to sue Trump in some capacity in order to get him to turn over his tax returns in discovery. Readers here should also encourage reporters of all flavors to make that case and explore this option in public. Once those tax returns are shown to the people (who Trump seems to champion, but his spokesperson Conway claims "don't care") then the truth of his full involvement with the Russians and his debts can be viewed. Perhaps Buzzfeed can make this happen.
Congressmen and women and Senators need to demand a full accounting of the costs of protecting Trump's global real estate empire now that any terrorist actions against them will cost US taxpayers plenty. Why should the US taxpayers be the "insurance" company for Trump's assets? Republicans will claim Trump isn't taking his $500,000 annual salary; quite generous when you consider it costs about $1 million per day to protect Trump Tower alone.
Is this what American bought?
Congressmen and women and Senators need to demand a full accounting of the costs of protecting Trump's global real estate empire now that any terrorist actions against them will cost US taxpayers plenty. Why should the US taxpayers be the "insurance" company for Trump's assets? Republicans will claim Trump isn't taking his $500,000 annual salary; quite generous when you consider it costs about $1 million per day to protect Trump Tower alone.
Is this what American bought?
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If the number of women and men who marched (some estimates place them in upwards of two or three million) also structures in the number of people who felt very strongly sympathetic but did not go, (4 in my family alone!) then we are looking at a tide of opposition to Trump and his crony politics.
Do not confuse the raising of the voices of those who have been marginalized, with a lack of interest in the broadest, most sweeping tide: Americans, furiously fed up with a Republican apparatchik club of condescending, crony Capitalism, that doesn't represent their desire for common sense gun laws, women's right to choose, the reality of climate change, and above all, clean, responsible government.
This is the first eddy of a tsunami. Change is coming. The GOP would do well to think about following a "president" with a 27 percent approval rating of a cliff. 3,300 groups of the Indivisible Groups have formed in a few weeks. Listen up, GOP.
Do not confuse the raising of the voices of those who have been marginalized, with a lack of interest in the broadest, most sweeping tide: Americans, furiously fed up with a Republican apparatchik club of condescending, crony Capitalism, that doesn't represent their desire for common sense gun laws, women's right to choose, the reality of climate change, and above all, clean, responsible government.
This is the first eddy of a tsunami. Change is coming. The GOP would do well to think about following a "president" with a 27 percent approval rating of a cliff. 3,300 groups of the Indivisible Groups have formed in a few weeks. Listen up, GOP.
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For this historic outpouring of righteous anger and angst to transform from a moment to a movement, new progressive organizations are needed. The old ones, including the Democratic Party, have failed us. The old wineskins cannot and will not hold the new wine which massively poured out in streets worldwide to protest the vinegar of the Trump regime.
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There has been no vinegar unless you believe the media narrative and you choose to be controlled by six mega communications companies. How about you wait until he actually does something. You people who are so easily led by the media are way more frightening that Trump will ever be.
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The March was a success - at accomplishing what?
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Read above message by Lee Crespi.
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I have been involved in political organizing for three decades. What needs to be done now is local, not global. People come together in demonstrations such as those that occurred on Saturday across a multitude of issues. To change the national conversation, those marchers must become activists.
We unite when someone like Trump threatens all of us, but fight back by changing the discoursewith respect to each concern – women's rights, via PP for example; LGBTQ rights, through LGBTQ organizations, educational issues through teachers' and parents' groups, voting rights through pro bono attorney organizations, workers' rights through unions or other labor groups – we work on each issue locally, and work together on the big ones.
The progressive base is comprised of all of these individual organizations, working in their local communities. What we need to do now is elect progressives to local and state offices, particularly since 2020 will be here soon, and we do not want Congress gerrymandered again by state legislatures.
Call your local progressive candidates and ask how you can help. Call Planned Parenthood and find out whom to support and how you can help support him or her- find out who is running for your school board and work for progressive candidates. Start networking, not as an individual, but through hometown organizations with local, state and national networks.
In other words, to act globally, we must first think locally. It works; begin today!
We unite when someone like Trump threatens all of us, but fight back by changing the discoursewith respect to each concern – women's rights, via PP for example; LGBTQ rights, through LGBTQ organizations, educational issues through teachers' and parents' groups, voting rights through pro bono attorney organizations, workers' rights through unions or other labor groups – we work on each issue locally, and work together on the big ones.
The progressive base is comprised of all of these individual organizations, working in their local communities. What we need to do now is elect progressives to local and state offices, particularly since 2020 will be here soon, and we do not want Congress gerrymandered again by state legislatures.
Call your local progressive candidates and ask how you can help. Call Planned Parenthood and find out whom to support and how you can help support him or her- find out who is running for your school board and work for progressive candidates. Start networking, not as an individual, but through hometown organizations with local, state and national networks.
In other words, to act globally, we must first think locally. It works; begin today!
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Its been reported elsewhere that "University of Connecticut professor Jeremy Pressman, working with international relations professor Erica Chenoweth from the University of Denver, estimated that 3,341,823 to 4,611,782 people turned out to march across the nation."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-than-1-in-100-americans-marched-against-...
Could you please update your numbers in these articles to reflect this if you agree with their analysis?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-than-1-in-100-americans-marched-against-...
Could you please update your numbers in these articles to reflect this if you agree with their analysis?
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We can start by supporting access to reproductive health care by demonstrating in support of Planned Parenthood on February 11, when anti-choice forces are planning a 'defund' rally.
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Although it's thrilling to see the women's march drawing attention to and giving voice to masses of disenchanted people, here is a chance for new individual leaders to rise to the forefront -- spokeswomen for the movement who will become the new beacons of presidential dreams. Who will they be?
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Madonna?
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It looks like a lot of men posting here had their feelings hurt by our rejection of them.
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Getting people to march around for a day doesn't qualify as a success other than as a exercise in logistics. Unless people are energized for the long term it's nothing more than a feel-good afternoon. Trump doesn't care that you don't like him, so better think about 2018 if you want to make a difference.
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KWB: "Trump doesn't care that you don't like him" - right, so that is why he and Sean Spencer are having a temper tantrum over the numbers on Friday and Saturday in the press??? And actually, it was a feel good afternoon to see so many people - women, men and children, who were happy to agree on their resistance to Trump/GOP plans to defund Planned Parenthood, repeal ACA with nothing to replace it (haven't the GOP had nearly 8 years to come up with something, anything???).
I think that as soon as Trump nominates his white male anti-abortion SCOTUS nominee, the protests will be on again, and I for one will be there. Not long now.
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The folks who got enraged about government spending/bailouts and election of a Black President were pretty successful in organizing what became the tea party. Maybe studying their playbook could help here.
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Any concerned American ought send a donation of any amount they can spare to Planned Parenthood. And then do it again in another month or two. We all know this is the battle: the basic human rights and vulnerable bodies of all females. Trump and the GOP could not have broadcast a clearer signal that they intend to immediately dismantle more and more local and state health care clinics that provide birth control and abortion service - via state courts, as the fringe right wing evangelicals also continue to attack the 3rd branch of the federal govt. these horrifying theocrats have yet to fully own: the Supreme Court.
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Some of us believe that responsible and, yes, active government has an important role to play in making our society better for all. We may have different issues that motivate us, from reversing global warming, to preserving a woman's right to choose, to building a strong safety net that guarantees good healthcare to all, but what unifies us is our faith that America can become a better and more progressive place and that an active government of the people is an important part of the solution.
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The marchers were fabulous. The organizers less so. Kudos to them for pulling off this immense and peaceful match, but the way too long list of too many different issues ended up sapping energy rather than energizing, and diffusing the group rather than uniting them- not to mention lack of appreciation for those of us standing check by jowl for 6 hours who just wanted to get moving! Inclusiveness is to be encouraged, but we can't lose our focus, and fighting too many issues at once means we won't get anything accomplished. As Kamala Harris sad, I am so glad you want to talk about women's issues- the economy and health care. We need to focus on the issues that affect us all with less attention to identity politics.
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This is important! Women make up 50% of the world - they are not 'minorities' and to keep constantly adding more special populations into the mix dilutes the message. Harris is absolutely correct - women's issues are OUR issues - jobs, raising families, healthcare, old age security. Focusing on those helps everyone.
I marched in Austin, Texas along with a crowd that was unexpectedly large, so large that the flow of women, men, and children bottlenecked while trying to move into the approved route. Despite the waiting and discomfort and confusion, the crowd remained joyous and determined to protest, peacefully, the bleak, authoritarian and crude vision of Mr. Trump. It is true that no one can predict what's next, but now no one can deny the reality that the energy of millions is a resource that can be tapped when the Trump administration attempts to roll back rights or shred the social safety net that the weakest in the country need for their survival. I know people who voted for Trump for the reason that his presidency would blow up the system; it appears that their hopes are coming to pass. So, now my hope is that the newly defined ground after the explosion sets free the forces for good that will help those Americans Trump has promised to help.
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Ironically Putins puppet has brought us together a force to be reckoned with.
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Marilyn
The crowd in DC was joyous too! The most joy I've seen by far since November 9, 2016! Thanks for your words. Let's hope our efforts have even way more rippling effects.
MIMA
The crowd in DC was joyous too! The most joy I've seen by far since November 9, 2016! Thanks for your words. Let's hope our efforts have even way more rippling effects.
MIMA
The "Women's March" is just a, right-out-of-the-blocks, high-visibility demonstration that Donald Trump doesn't walk on water. But, if he wishes to take that on too, there are truly millions of people, around-the-world, who would gladly hoist him up, and carry him over to the Potomac.
Donald Trump is the poor little rich kid, who just never learned that he, too, can be wrong. So, if you cannot recognize the problems, especially the it is YOU, how can you ever solve them?
To paraphrase President Ronald Reagan, "Trump IS the problem!" Without him, people would realize how well we have it in this country. In many parts pf the world, people lack: food; adequate shelter; a meaningful education; health care for their families; and even potable water to drink, cook and wash in.
But, if you listened to Trump's Inaugural Address, there was nota "...Ask what you can do for your country" phrase, and no "...Shining city on a hill" reference. If America was truly as bad-off as he would have us believe, we are just below Rwanda, and above Myanmar. Even in those countries, people have hope. But for us, Trump has taken that away!
He seems to be beating America down--by dividing us, rather than lifting us up! What kind of leadership is that?
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
Donald Trump is the poor little rich kid, who just never learned that he, too, can be wrong. So, if you cannot recognize the problems, especially the it is YOU, how can you ever solve them?
To paraphrase President Ronald Reagan, "Trump IS the problem!" Without him, people would realize how well we have it in this country. In many parts pf the world, people lack: food; adequate shelter; a meaningful education; health care for their families; and even potable water to drink, cook and wash in.
But, if you listened to Trump's Inaugural Address, there was nota "...Ask what you can do for your country" phrase, and no "...Shining city on a hill" reference. If America was truly as bad-off as he would have us believe, we are just below Rwanda, and above Myanmar. Even in those countries, people have hope. But for us, Trump has taken that away!
He seems to be beating America down--by dividing us, rather than lifting us up! What kind of leadership is that?
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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Wow! You know Trump personally? You have read lots of bipartisan books about him? No? You know nothing. Take the time to do some research. I didn't vote for him, but this hyperbolic display is ridiculous.
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There was nothing organic about the women's march. It was a well planned and financially executed event by liberal elites.
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Then would it be accurate to state Trump's inauguration activities were well planned, and funded by conservative elites? It's always easy to dismiss something one fears, or disapproves of even when it's the exercise of First Amendment rights.
In fact, grass roots marches were organized by people all over our country, and world.
In fact, grass roots marches were organized by people all over our country, and world.
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The march successfully reached out to women (and some men) who didn't vote for Trump.
Well done! Always good to energize your base.
Now, here's the trick... appeal to those white voters who did vote for Trump.
They are the people whose defection has destroyed the Democratic Party across the country at every level.
Too hard? Or worse, too distasteful?
It's clear that many of the marchers (though not all, for sure) would just rather not. Identity politics are fine, as long as they don't have to include white women- or worse, white men. After all, where's the fun in identity politics unless you've got someone to set up as the "other?"
And economic politics? Not their thing unless it's ensuring that the government will pay for women's birth control (but not men's).
The march won't change a thing about the electoral map, nor will that map change until the left stops talking piously about inclusivity and starts actually including white men and women and their concerns as well. You don't have to kick issues like racial and gender justice to the curb. You may have to listen more and not immediately call whites privileged, racist, and sexist, however. A heavy lift, I know.
Or you could just wait unto the "natural" demographic majority asserts itself in 20 or 30 years. I'll bet on the waiting.
Unless a new Bernie Sanders comes out of nowhere. Fingers crossed.
Well done! Always good to energize your base.
Now, here's the trick... appeal to those white voters who did vote for Trump.
They are the people whose defection has destroyed the Democratic Party across the country at every level.
Too hard? Or worse, too distasteful?
It's clear that many of the marchers (though not all, for sure) would just rather not. Identity politics are fine, as long as they don't have to include white women- or worse, white men. After all, where's the fun in identity politics unless you've got someone to set up as the "other?"
And economic politics? Not their thing unless it's ensuring that the government will pay for women's birth control (but not men's).
The march won't change a thing about the electoral map, nor will that map change until the left stops talking piously about inclusivity and starts actually including white men and women and their concerns as well. You don't have to kick issues like racial and gender justice to the curb. You may have to listen more and not immediately call whites privileged, racist, and sexist, however. A heavy lift, I know.
Or you could just wait unto the "natural" demographic majority asserts itself in 20 or 30 years. I'll bet on the waiting.
Unless a new Bernie Sanders comes out of nowhere. Fingers crossed.
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The march may actually have been counterproductive. Democrats should be figuring out how they need to reach the people who voted against Clinton or stayed home. Sure, Clinton got 48% of the popular vote versus Trump's 46%. She should have been 20 points ahead of that ignorant boor. Trump shouldn't have gotten close enough for Comey or the Russians to matter. Clinton hammered away at what a misogynist Trump was. It didn't work. Feminism did not work at at the polls, and having a march to support feminism achieves bupkis. It just diverted energy and attention from the real problems.
Now, if the march had been against the DNC's misdeeds and follies, that might have been useful.
Now, if the march had been against the DNC's misdeeds and follies, that might have been useful.
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I have read some commentary that marching without organizing around specific issues is pointless. I don't agree. These marches showed that many many people are concerned with a variety of issues that the Trump administration plans to subvert. In addition, these marches energized people to build on this success for further action. I applaud those who marched or helped or supported. I has given me some hope in otherwise dark times.
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Plans to subvert? Wow, you really are a NYT reader. Do some independent research. Go to your public library and find some peer-reviewed articles on Trump's actual positions and his history - not those that the NYT told you were true. You'll be amazed.
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Lori: So you want people to believe Trump's "alternate" facts??? Good one. I trust you have a platinum health plan so you don't need to worry about repealing ACA. Well, aren't you special.
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I've said it before, Democrats are unpatriotic for one reason - they don't vote. During the last mid-term election in New Mexico, the fewest Democrats voted in 60 years, and we had the first Republican lead House in 60 years. I provided security for the Women's Rally in Albuquerque Saturday and had the opportunity to ask the 20-somethings in the crowd if they voted. While this is not a statistically supportable sample, over 50% said they did not vote, and one even said she said it didn't matter, all the while screaming for women's rights!
If we get more Democrats out to vote we can recover this, otherwise Concerned Citizen's list here will become reality. This is especially true in the red and rust states. Help people to get IDs, car pool to the polls when they decrease the number of polls. It will be hard work, but we will get our country back.
If we get more Democrats out to vote we can recover this, otherwise Concerned Citizen's list here will become reality. This is especially true in the red and rust states. Help people to get IDs, car pool to the polls when they decrease the number of polls. It will be hard work, but we will get our country back.
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Well, if blowing up the White House is considered a "success" by the NYT, what can we expect in the future?
I just want our new President and his Administration to focus on "jobs, jobs, jobs." So far, he's undeterred in that effort. Good on him.
I just want our new President and his Administration to focus on "jobs, jobs, jobs." So far, he's undeterred in that effort. Good on him.
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"Well, if blowing up the White House is considered a "success" by the NYT, what can we expect in the future? " Huh?
This is some of what Trump has done since inaugurated:
Increased interest rates on FHA loans
Continues to tweet, mostly about himself or how "sad" he is for those who don't agree with him
Sent his staff out to create "alternative" truths
Lie to CIA officials about his role in minimizing their value
Waved Obama's letter above his head stating he wouldn't share its contents with the press - that was quite important for his second day in office.
Filling his cabinet with GOP billionaires - how do you define elite?
So, what so far has he done for jobs, jobs, jobs?
This is some of what Trump has done since inaugurated:
Increased interest rates on FHA loans
Continues to tweet, mostly about himself or how "sad" he is for those who don't agree with him
Sent his staff out to create "alternative" truths
Lie to CIA officials about his role in minimizing their value
Waved Obama's letter above his head stating he wouldn't share its contents with the press - that was quite important for his second day in office.
Filling his cabinet with GOP billionaires - how do you define elite?
So, what so far has he done for jobs, jobs, jobs?
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He is also undeterred in getting rid of the ACA by weakening it until it collapses. He signed the document the same day he was elected. I'm so glad you can afford health care - not many can.
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Do this! Here in Eugene and Springfield, OR we are organizing an all-arts-venues popup show of all the incredible, artistic, funny, powerful, hand-made signs across our community. We have asked people to save signs, will show them everywhere for a few days once this is organized; also we will create an enormous collage of photos of our favorites. Everyone gets to contribute. This is not running for office but the march changed us, gave us energy for direct action and we know we need to stay connected to this inspiration -- so that we can and do the actual work of change. Please consider this in your city. Thanks everyone, doing this as one world changed it all, inside of us and now let us change it all outside. Thank you for heartening us again.
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Excellent idea !!!
There is much work to be done, and it will include a lot of not so exciting or glamorous tasks. Having said that, there will be plenty of opportunities to make these efforts into fun, uplifting as well as rewarding in a social way. This is a great way to start.
There is much work to be done, and it will include a lot of not so exciting or glamorous tasks. Having said that, there will be plenty of opportunities to make these efforts into fun, uplifting as well as rewarding in a social way. This is a great way to start.
Stay active and educated! Resist!
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We keep doing it.
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I would urge progressives to look carefully at the grassroots organization of the right-wing. The brainwashing machinery of the ultra-right, consisting of hate-spewing talk radio, the NRA, churches preaching unchristian Christianity, and the tea party, is beyond anything assembled by Mao or Stalin.
That machinery is the reason a vicious bully who lied constantly, boasted about sexual assault, and mocked the disabled rose to power. That machinery is the reason huge majorities of the bully's voters think that unemployment rose under Obama, when it fell to historical lows, and the stock market fell, when in fact it tripled. It is part of the reason the GOP has a stranglehold on power despite progressive tendencies in the nation as a whole.
Unless this brainwashing machinery is countered, the basic situation will not change. We have luminaries at the top on our side: intellects such as Krugman, sharp wits such as Seth Meyers, and exemplary celebrities such as Meryl Streep. However, there is very little at the grassroots organization to complement them and amplify their message.
There is no grassroots progressive force to prevent the Dem leaders from giving into mega-dollars, which they do all the time. Elite liberals with links to mega-donors do not like grassroots organizations, except to the extent they need them to gain power.
We don't have to choose between addressing racial injustices and appealing to the working class. The key is to counter rightist propaganda.
That machinery is the reason a vicious bully who lied constantly, boasted about sexual assault, and mocked the disabled rose to power. That machinery is the reason huge majorities of the bully's voters think that unemployment rose under Obama, when it fell to historical lows, and the stock market fell, when in fact it tripled. It is part of the reason the GOP has a stranglehold on power despite progressive tendencies in the nation as a whole.
Unless this brainwashing machinery is countered, the basic situation will not change. We have luminaries at the top on our side: intellects such as Krugman, sharp wits such as Seth Meyers, and exemplary celebrities such as Meryl Streep. However, there is very little at the grassroots organization to complement them and amplify their message.
There is no grassroots progressive force to prevent the Dem leaders from giving into mega-dollars, which they do all the time. Elite liberals with links to mega-donors do not like grassroots organizations, except to the extent they need them to gain power.
We don't have to choose between addressing racial injustices and appealing to the working class. The key is to counter rightist propaganda.
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I have joined a movement that has the potential to be a tsunami under Trump's thin skin. It's called Grab Your Wallet (.org). It list companies that carry Trump products or endorsements, suggest how to state your objections, and then we refuse to do business with them until they rid their stores of the merchandise or kick offensive members off their boards.
This will make action happen in a noisy way. Imagine these companies heeding this protest and stating publically they no longer support or carry anything from the Trump Empire.
So....goodbye Amazon, LL Bean, Bed Bath and Beyond...and on and on.
This will make action happen in a noisy way. Imagine these companies heeding this protest and stating publically they no longer support or carry anything from the Trump Empire.
So....goodbye Amazon, LL Bean, Bed Bath and Beyond...and on and on.
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Really? One board member out of 20 at LL Bean supported Trump, and you're boycotting the company?
If Trump had gotten 5% of the vote, you'd be dancing in the street.
If Trump had gotten 5% of the vote, you'd be dancing in the street.
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@Jonathan: YUP! One is too many.
While I agree with many of these liberal ideas, I can't help but think that our first task should be securing the fundamentals of our institutions so that our government is less prone to extremists. This means fixing the gerrymandering, making voting much easier for all Americans, and enacting/enforcing stricter ethics and anti-corruption laws. Without this sort of action, future progress will be hampered by extremist rhetoric and anti-government populists.
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Agree with you, but with the GOP in charge there won't be an end to gerrymandering, or voter suppression in the near future.
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That means winning enough races in 2018 & 2020 to flip the Congress, which is what 'these liberal ideas' are aiming to do. You're right. Sustaining the momentum & getting out the vote is about the biggest first thing to do.
Not enough to only be "against". We must be FOR. FOR something coherent and well-explained and observable and accessible.
That was a big part of this election loss.
That was a big part of this election loss.
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I marched, I'll march again, I'll march as often as is necessary to rouse Americans to rid themselves of the Trumpista fraud.
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More name calling. Think anybody was allowed to call President Obama names?
Just curious is this utterly vapid and partisan grunt an example of the quality comment that got this person his verified commenter status? Or is it just that he can be counted on to be a strident partisan who shares the views of the moderators?
Do you guys have standards or not?
Just curious is this utterly vapid and partisan grunt an example of the quality comment that got this person his verified commenter status? Or is it just that he can be counted on to be a strident partisan who shares the views of the moderators?
Do you guys have standards or not?
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As long as I can hear about potential marches, I'll march also. Absolutely! Thanks, John, for marching.
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PREACH!
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