Its terrible to think that we're throwing away a perfectly qualified and moral public servant like Hillary Clinton for one terrible mistake of judgement, and giving the the job to a low-life grifter whose whole life has revolved around defrauding and hurting so many people. I honestly have to question the wisdom and moral backbone of a nation that would do or even consider such a thing. It proves we're simply not as great as we think we are.
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It looks like Hillary loved and needed Bill much more than he loved and needed her. She was willing to give up her lifestyle and career, travel across the country, just to be with him. And even when Bill had affairs with many other women, she still "stood by her man." There is something unsettling about this dependency, and seems to suggest that she is not really her own person, but was clinging to Bill as she did to her domineering father. Let's remember that in high school she supported her father's choice for president, Barry Goldwater, who advocated nuclear weapons for Vietnam. It may be that she is too concerned about seeking love and validation, than be independent enough to solve the difficult problems of our country as president.
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Will medical science please find what makes the incredible woman tick? She's quite remarkable. Were she forty or fifty years younger she might have been our first female President (I hate that term). Perhaps she'd consider a spot on The Supreme Court? The Republicans would find it impossible to say no to her.
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So many have criticized Clinton of not being warm or possessing emotions, this is the story of Hillary Clinton which should have been told about her at the beginning of her campaign. How charming. A young woman intent on giving it all up for the love of her life, making a trip across the country from the urbane heady atmosphere of Washington D.C., to the foreignness of a small town in Arkansas. I can understand Mrs. Ehrman's panic that this intelligent young woman was making the mistake of her life. She saw the rare woman Hillary Clinton was capable of becoming.
This story was captivating and offered a rare look at the authentic Hillary Clinton, not the press release one. She has stood by the man she obviously loves for her whole adulthood. She is a woman who fully commits to family and causes with her whole being. Can Donald Trump say that? Obviously not.
Mrs. Ehrman is probably not surprised that Hillary Clinton is the first woman nominated to be President of the United States. She saw that capability in her all those years ago, and was why she undertook a road trip with her to dissuade Hillary from burying herself in the small world politics of Arkansas. I hope Hillary Clinton takes the election with a landslide.
This story was captivating and offered a rare look at the authentic Hillary Clinton, not the press release one. She has stood by the man she obviously loves for her whole adulthood. She is a woman who fully commits to family and causes with her whole being. Can Donald Trump say that? Obviously not.
Mrs. Ehrman is probably not surprised that Hillary Clinton is the first woman nominated to be President of the United States. She saw that capability in her all those years ago, and was why she undertook a road trip with her to dissuade Hillary from burying herself in the small world politics of Arkansas. I hope Hillary Clinton takes the election with a landslide.
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Hillary Clinton is a career opportunist... The article reveals how calculating and methodical she was and still is! Under the guise of"love", she hitched her wagon full of personal ambitions onto Bill Clinton and has rode on his wave of success for over 30 years! Through scandals and extra-marital affairs, she has defended her husband either because of love or political necessity. Secretary Clinton has been through hardships: growing up poor, endured her husband's affairs and scandals and suffered a stinging defeat in 2008 to Senator Obama. Realistically, she has a story to tell; one of american success. But because of her calculating and deliberate rehearsed demeanor, Hillary comes across as disingenuous, always answering hard questions through the arts of obfuscation and sophistry. She is a hardened political warrior; one that is distrusted and disliked!
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Love this story! See, Hillary is a real person! She has had to work very hard to get where she is. I truly admire and respect her!
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Just dropped everything to be with her drop dead gorgeous boyfriend in Arkansas! That sounds like every other love-struck young woman who throws caution and ambition to the winds even if he happens to be in Arkansas! Or maybe she was just clairvoyant, mean, plotting on her way to the ultimate Office! Because, according to her enemies she is so calculating, so cunning, the end justifying the means! Hillary Clinton a love-bird? Mrs. Ehrman thank you for this lovely, portrait of our next President to be who is just like us.
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Good for her!
Wish I could live that long and be that smart.
So glad to hear this even as the media are once again jumping all over Hillary for things Republicans like George Bush got away with on a far, far bigger scale.
Bush, for instance, stored 22 million White House emails on Republican party servers - 95% of every email sent by his team - and then deleted them all without a trace. Yet he wasn't hounded to death over it by the GOP Congress or their media pals.
Wish I could live that long and be that smart.
So glad to hear this even as the media are once again jumping all over Hillary for things Republicans like George Bush got away with on a far, far bigger scale.
Bush, for instance, stored 22 million White House emails on Republican party servers - 95% of every email sent by his team - and then deleted them all without a trace. Yet he wasn't hounded to death over it by the GOP Congress or their media pals.
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Mrs Ehrman sounds like someone from central casting...
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Such a sweet story. Let me sum up. Fake feminist Hillary hitched her wagon to her cheatin heart smarter husband, moved to Arkansas, and 50 years and 10 affairs later, she is about to get the ultimate victim parlay.
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Am I the only one who heard what was said in the video at 5:55?
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If the Trumpster wins and Clinton does not, there is something very wrong with both this democracy and the universe.
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What a lovely story...I'm with her!
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Great story
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So, finally, the New York Times finds it way to writing a story about HIllary Clinton that didn't originate from a Republican committee investigation.
How refreshing!
How refreshing!
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Sara Ehrman is obviously being paid by the Clintons to tell these fables. Nobody ever heard of her before this news story, and nobody will ever hear of her again when the campaign and election are over.
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Great story. But the bed making thing is going to have Trey Gowdy incensed.
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Let's not go down the feel good story, deification roads. She the better of two absolutely horrible choices.
Please!
Please!
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If Ms. Clinton had passed the DC bar exam, does that mean she does not go to Arkansas, but stays in Washington? Would she have had a better career?
Like Mrs. Ehrman I wonder if she would not have achieved more had she stayed.
Perhaps we would already had the first female president and women would have more progress even sooner.
She might have met a better man than Bill Clinton and not taken the path that he began and avoid all the scandals that are associated with him and their relationship. Maybe she has a even better life and more brilliant career for not being attached to the Clinton name.
Like Mrs. Ehrman I wonder if she would not have achieved more had she stayed.
Perhaps we would already had the first female president and women would have more progress even sooner.
She might have met a better man than Bill Clinton and not taken the path that he began and avoid all the scandals that are associated with him and their relationship. Maybe she has a even better life and more brilliant career for not being attached to the Clinton name.
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Love this article down memory lane. Thank you Mrs. Erhman for sharing this adventure you had with Mrs. Clinton. I just love that earthy pottery dish you showed, too. God bless.
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Nothing personal against Mrs. Clinton or her family.
Not saying her opponent is better.
However, I urge all NY Times readers to dig into the evidence showing some of her possible motivations and how plans. Allegedly 1. Hillary wanted OBAMA Care to fail because she wants to put in a more radicalized (socialistic) health care that solely govt will run, abolishing private health care entirely in this country. If you are an MD or other health prof, you might want to investigate 2. Chelsea Clinton expressed concern over the scurry for money that was taking place by friends of her father's at the Clinton (nonprofit) Trust. 3. Read the NY Post articles most recently about the Clinton Trust and how it was allegedly being misused. 3 Various allegations of immorality/assault...
It appears an elitist few w criminal/selfish bent have taken over our government. WW2 and Vietnam: in both cases public was lied to to ensure USA involvement. Not new...Most concerning for all Americans and for the future of our country: did you know executive orders are passed all the time by the Pres which contradict and invalidate the Constitution, and we never hear about it? These are stealth. Congress and public not involved at all. What are her true plans? To destroy our country's sovereignty. Think...who profits? Who is really behind this? Who is telling us the truth and who is actually manipulating us? Please dig futher into what
is going on, for your own sake, your children, and for our country.
Not saying her opponent is better.
However, I urge all NY Times readers to dig into the evidence showing some of her possible motivations and how plans. Allegedly 1. Hillary wanted OBAMA Care to fail because she wants to put in a more radicalized (socialistic) health care that solely govt will run, abolishing private health care entirely in this country. If you are an MD or other health prof, you might want to investigate 2. Chelsea Clinton expressed concern over the scurry for money that was taking place by friends of her father's at the Clinton (nonprofit) Trust. 3. Read the NY Post articles most recently about the Clinton Trust and how it was allegedly being misused. 3 Various allegations of immorality/assault...
It appears an elitist few w criminal/selfish bent have taken over our government. WW2 and Vietnam: in both cases public was lied to to ensure USA involvement. Not new...Most concerning for all Americans and for the future of our country: did you know executive orders are passed all the time by the Pres which contradict and invalidate the Constitution, and we never hear about it? These are stealth. Congress and public not involved at all. What are her true plans? To destroy our country's sovereignty. Think...who profits? Who is really behind this? Who is telling us the truth and who is actually manipulating us? Please dig futher into what
is going on, for your own sake, your children, and for our country.
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Although Trump, in comparison, is unqualified for the presidency on every level, I am so sick of hearing and reading about Hillary, her life story and how her relationship with Bill developed. I don't care any more. We make national mythologies out of our presidents and this article is one giant step in that direction. We heard about them in 1992, 1996, 2008 and now, lo these many years later, 2016. Even if she becomes president, this couple and their story are not the be all and end all. If you don't know the story by now, look it up. It's in the history books.
I will take a story of my own in regard to Arkansas. As an 18 yr. old, I was driving from Pennsylvania to Texas to enroll in college. My car, as it often did, broke down, this time in Little Rock. I had a full day for the repairs and, like most that age, I was looking for a cause, something to which I might dedicate part of my life. What about Arkansas?
As bad luck would have it, I went to the state legislature to see what was going on. It was in session and a marching band came on to the floor to wrap up for the day. The man sitting next to me turned out to be a virulent, undisguised racist, running down the band (black high school students) in the most vile terms imaginable. Every vulgar, degrading term, he used. How quickly can I get myself out of this state?
Bill and Hillary represented Arkansas for a long time. That says a lot about their willingness to sacrifice principles for power.
I will take a story of my own in regard to Arkansas. As an 18 yr. old, I was driving from Pennsylvania to Texas to enroll in college. My car, as it often did, broke down, this time in Little Rock. I had a full day for the repairs and, like most that age, I was looking for a cause, something to which I might dedicate part of my life. What about Arkansas?
As bad luck would have it, I went to the state legislature to see what was going on. It was in session and a marching band came on to the floor to wrap up for the day. The man sitting next to me turned out to be a virulent, undisguised racist, running down the band (black high school students) in the most vile terms imaginable. Every vulgar, degrading term, he used. How quickly can I get myself out of this state?
Bill and Hillary represented Arkansas for a long time. That says a lot about their willingness to sacrifice principles for power.
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The article seem to paly with the false idea that Hillary would never have found herself at the cusp of the presidency had she not taken that journey; the more likely conclusion is that Bill would have self-destructed a long time ago without her, and never become president.
He is definitely her own making than she is his.
He is definitely her own making than she is his.
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What different paths Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton took in life.
At the time Clinton was dedicating her life to others, Donald and his Father Fred Trump were creating secret codes to keep Blacks, Latinos and Jews out of their rental properties.
MSNBC spoke with Trump’s former rental agent who revealed that they used secret codes on applications to exclude Blacks, Latinos and Jews. Fred used the N*word.
An amazing video Here on MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/fmr-trump-rental-agent-recalls-...
At the time Clinton was dedicating her life to others, Donald and his Father Fred Trump were creating secret codes to keep Blacks, Latinos and Jews out of their rental properties.
MSNBC spoke with Trump’s former rental agent who revealed that they used secret codes on applications to exclude Blacks, Latinos and Jews. Fred used the N*word.
An amazing video Here on MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/fmr-trump-rental-agent-recalls-...
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Charming story, I must admit.
One of the few glimpses of a (possibly) authentic Hillary Clinton. Too bad we haven't seen more of her over the years.
And the arguments advanced by Sara Ehrman are priceless: "You can't get Brie!"
Sara Ehrman can drive with me anytime.
One of the few glimpses of a (possibly) authentic Hillary Clinton. Too bad we haven't seen more of her over the years.
And the arguments advanced by Sara Ehrman are priceless: "You can't get Brie!"
Sara Ehrman can drive with me anytime.
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Of course! The mistake using the private email server makes sense now! She's untidy! Very understandable. In those days to be tidy was to be fake. Nowadays, to be untidy is to be untrustworthy. I'm with her. Thanks.
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Wonderful story. Thanks for publishing it.
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"Mrs. Clinton had failed the Washington, D.C., bar exam, but passed the Arkansas test, confirming her decision to join Mr. Clinton, she wrote in her 2003 memoir, “Living History.” Now we know why Hillary moved to Arkansas - because she couldn't practice law in Washington D.C. Interesting.
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You missed the part of the article where it said that Hillary moved to Arkansas because she loved Bill and wanted to be with him. So wonderful that she is still with him through thick in thin. What strong personal character she has proven time and time again.
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Possibly she failed the DC Bar exam because she had not yet learned the lesson of budgeting her time, and focused more on her job and the Watergate investigation than on studying for the DC bar exam. That failure made it easier for her to do what she wanted, which was to go to Arkansas to be with Bill. BTW, the soccer ball picture attached to the article shows what a cute hippy chick she pretended to be.
Many people fail a bar exam the first time they take it. And then they retake it and they pass like any number of very successful lawyers today have done.Don't be so mean spirited.
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Thanks for this fantastic story - wonderfully written vignette that provides a lot of insight into a fascinating woman. But it makes me equally intrigued about Mrs. Ehrman herself - can you please do a follow-up piece on *her* story? To be a woman so far ahead of her time, and still so sharp and utterly charming at 97, is an inspiration.
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Sara Ehrman rocks.
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What a lovely story. Thank you Mrs. Ehrman I''ve already voted ....for Hillary of course. To the person who thought Mrs.Ehrman put down southern culture.....well first of all the story was about Hillary and not the very kind lady who drove her across the country. Southern "culture" is much much different from East Coast culture and one has to live it to understand it.
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How very nice and very telling that so many comments have mentioned the importance of having and keeping friendships. We are not meant to be islands - society does not function that way. I would like a president who knows that.
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Cynic that I am, I'm always a sucker for parallel tales of love.
One of the greatest love stories ever told is the story of Abraham and his half-sister wife Sarah.
Abraham, of course, is the focus, the Patriarch and Beginner of so much to come. Nevertheless, the really interesting character is the beautiful, brazen and brave Sarah who is willing to agree to her craven consort's demand that she present herself to Pharoah's princes as merely Abraham's sister and not his wife, to end up being taken by Pharoah into his harem and into his bed — with dire and pestilential consequences for Pharoah's entire household.
Sarah is not only winsome and vivacious but wily, jealous and cruel. Her enraged treatment of Hagar her slave, handed over by Pharoah in order to get the conniving pair out of his kingdom with all possible haste, who with Sarah's approval and encouragement has borne Abraham's first son, is grossly unfair and uncharitable.
Abraham and Sarah later reenact their cunning ruse on a second dupe, the unfortunate Abimelech. Why not, when the end always justifies the means, and you're as practiced a parasitic pair of charming and predatory chancers as Bonnie and Clyde?
To the clever, fascinating Abraham and Sarah, and to the equally talented Bill and Hillary, others are always expendable. But there is something about their keen, fierce love for each other, stubbornly, resolutely surviving everything that life throws at it, that exacts wonder, awe and even grudging respect.
One of the greatest love stories ever told is the story of Abraham and his half-sister wife Sarah.
Abraham, of course, is the focus, the Patriarch and Beginner of so much to come. Nevertheless, the really interesting character is the beautiful, brazen and brave Sarah who is willing to agree to her craven consort's demand that she present herself to Pharoah's princes as merely Abraham's sister and not his wife, to end up being taken by Pharoah into his harem and into his bed — with dire and pestilential consequences for Pharoah's entire household.
Sarah is not only winsome and vivacious but wily, jealous and cruel. Her enraged treatment of Hagar her slave, handed over by Pharoah in order to get the conniving pair out of his kingdom with all possible haste, who with Sarah's approval and encouragement has borne Abraham's first son, is grossly unfair and uncharitable.
Abraham and Sarah later reenact their cunning ruse on a second dupe, the unfortunate Abimelech. Why not, when the end always justifies the means, and you're as practiced a parasitic pair of charming and predatory chancers as Bonnie and Clyde?
To the clever, fascinating Abraham and Sarah, and to the equally talented Bill and Hillary, others are always expendable. But there is something about their keen, fierce love for each other, stubbornly, resolutely surviving everything that life throws at it, that exacts wonder, awe and even grudging respect.
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I'm just confused how Chozick says Hillary refused to be interviewed for the article, but somehow knows that she disputes the "unmade bed"?
There's something sort of psychotic about the insistence of qualifying even the tiniest of criticisms of HC in print.
There's something sort of psychotic about the insistence of qualifying even the tiniest of criticisms of HC in print.
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Really, you can read politics into *that*? Seems pretty clear that HRC had nothing to add when given the opportunity to comment. It's also clear that this is a very old story, and at some point, HRC, disputed the bed anecdote.
Next week Darrell Issa will breathlessly announce a congressional investigation.
Next week Darrell Issa will breathlessly announce a congressional investigation.
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Hillary is still practical and focused and loyal. Part of why she's my hero.
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It is very interesting and revealing that Mrs. Erhman described Hillary as a 'Leviathan'. (video time: 5:55) Please look at meaning of the word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
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It is very interesting and revealing that Mrs. Erhman described Hillary as a 'Leviathan'. (video time: 5:55) Please look at meaning of the word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
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You should check various dictionaries for definitions of words rather than in wiki because they will give you more than one definition unlike wikipedia. One of Webster's definition of "leviathan" is "something that is very large and powerful," and I am pretty sure that's what Ms. Ehrman meant.
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I believe she used the word to describe someone greater than herself. That is, a huge presence she, Hillary, did not yet understand.
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It's also used to mean "giant". And like her or not, she's a giant among us.
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Too much of a lovey-dovey story. Let's stick to the here and now.
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Ms. Erhman was not putting down southern culture. She was a fish out of water; coming from the east coast to Fayetteville Arkansas. It would have been quite similar for the reverse. Pick, pick pick.
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Hillary needs to go back on the road and keep on going - far, far away. She is a disgrace.
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At least she hasn't left a trail of sexually abused women, failed business deals and racism in her wake.
How is it that you think using a private email server is worse than that?
How is it that you think using a private email server is worse than that?
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I lived in North Arkansas, in the Oazaks, during those times. The story made me laugh and laugh. We weren’t all backwoods however. Like many 'back to the landers’ we were college educated and had progressive ideas. I’m sure Hillary fit right in.
It is good to see Hillary in this warm human sense. I think she’ll make a good President.
It is good to see Hillary in this warm human sense. I think she’ll make a good President.
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What a great story!!!
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I saw Bill Clinton at a Hillary’s campaign rally in 2008. He was charismatic indeed. After Bill entered the arena beaming, Hillary came out in her blue pantsuit.
I was so glad that I was finally able to attend her rally, having made thousands of phone calls as a volunteer. Amid a big, cheering crowd of people trying to shake Hillary’s hand and get her signature, I managed to get close enough to say, “Please sign this for me.” She looked at me and said, “I will.”
As I read this article, I’m looking at that “Hillary for President” bumper sticker signed by Hillary, Bill and Chelsea, which I framed together with a Clinton/Kaine “Winning Ticket” bumper sticker. Oh, how I want her to win! Hillaaareeeeey! You DO speak for me. Go Hill, go Hill, go Hill…!
I was so glad that I was finally able to attend her rally, having made thousands of phone calls as a volunteer. Amid a big, cheering crowd of people trying to shake Hillary’s hand and get her signature, I managed to get close enough to say, “Please sign this for me.” She looked at me and said, “I will.”
As I read this article, I’m looking at that “Hillary for President” bumper sticker signed by Hillary, Bill and Chelsea, which I framed together with a Clinton/Kaine “Winning Ticket” bumper sticker. Oh, how I want her to win! Hillaaareeeeey! You DO speak for me. Go Hill, go Hill, go Hill…!
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Please forgive a second comment, but this is based on reading comments posted since mine. Those of you who believe that the NYTs is in the bag for Hillary are either too young, not been reading the Times very long, or have not been paying attention--including to coverage in this election cycle.
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Actually, the Times's news coverage has favored Hillary strongly. During the primaries, the Times focused on Clinton to the detriment of Bernie Sanders-- a view ratified by the paper's Public Editor after a landslide of reader complaints.
And this road trip story-- which I enjoyed hugely-- seems timed to soften the news about the FBI's discovery of more Clinton emails.
And this road trip story-- which I enjoyed hugely-- seems timed to soften the news about the FBI's discovery of more Clinton emails.
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This is a very touching and heart warming story. I have always believed that Hillary Clinton is a person of principle and compassion. She has made some errors on the biggest stage in the world, but they are not to me of the largely selfish and venal character of so many other political types.
As others have noted, and I agree whole heartedly, Trump as a person is an abject failure. There is not a shred of decency or kindness about him throughout his life. He has no real friends and has said as much himself. He is actually just about the epitome of everything that he rails about.
I certainly hope that she wins and that there is a Congress that will work with her.
The American people have in so many respects overlooked how awful this Republican party has become. Thankfully, the NYT and the WaPo have pointed that out in endorsing Democratic challengers in a number of congressional and Senate races.
Thank you NYT for your insightful journalism. Many recognize and value the job you are doing.
As others have noted, and I agree whole heartedly, Trump as a person is an abject failure. There is not a shred of decency or kindness about him throughout his life. He has no real friends and has said as much himself. He is actually just about the epitome of everything that he rails about.
I certainly hope that she wins and that there is a Congress that will work with her.
The American people have in so many respects overlooked how awful this Republican party has become. Thankfully, the NYT and the WaPo have pointed that out in endorsing Democratic challengers in a number of congressional and Senate races.
Thank you NYT for your insightful journalism. Many recognize and value the job you are doing.
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What a lovely story and interesting insight into Bill and Hillary's beginnings. I'm glad that Mrs Ehrman survived to see how far Hillary has come, and Bill for that matter. I love how Hillary took a different path to what Mrs Ehrman wanted but still ended up at the same destination, it shows there is more than one road to the top. Whether or not Bill was a good choice in partner he has helped to shape her into the strong, confident woman she is today. This was a great article and shows a more down to earth, human side of Mrs Clinton.
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This glimpse back in time shows that Hillary's tenacity was already a very strong character trait.
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I just hope she makes it. She deserves a landslide victory. I'll break out a very good bottle of Bordeaux if she gets it. Go Hillary...
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Agree on all points, especially on breaking out a good Bordeaux, but i'll be drinking even if for some reason she doesn't win; I think a lot of us will be.
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That's quite a photo of her in the grass. Who knew? But after all this hype what's gonna happen? It actually might be interesting. I was also surprised by her at the Al Smith. God knows, we need change. Let's see....
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From humble beginning to billionaire. Now a genuine 1%er.
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'Leviathan' was the description of Hillary by Mrs. Erhman. (video time: 5:55) BUT less than 1% of the readers will look up the full meaning of this word. Will you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
The description of the scene awaiting them when they arrived in Fayetteville is hilarious!
I do understand Ms. Ehrman crying, I really do, and I sympathize, but the description is hilarious!
I do understand Ms. Ehrman crying, I really do, and I sympathize, but the description is hilarious!
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One of them obviously knew about Laurel Bloomery, as it is quite a detour from I-81/11 - the other side of the mountains, in fact. No wonder they both kept what the got (that and it is darn good stuff).
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Sadly, the piece was contrived. We all get it and some of us like it.
But it's over.
This dog and pony is over.
The FBI placed the election out of reach. No homey story about an old lady will matter.
It starts with trust. Hillary is not trusted. Bill is not trusted.
And their shills are not trusted.
Indeed, who is trusted?
Isn't that the question?
But it's over.
This dog and pony is over.
The FBI placed the election out of reach. No homey story about an old lady will matter.
It starts with trust. Hillary is not trusted. Bill is not trusted.
And their shills are not trusted.
Indeed, who is trusted?
Isn't that the question?
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No mention of the fact that Hillary had just failed the Bar, and was making a strategic decision, in light of her own professional failure, attaching herself to an ambitious, dishonest man.
Thanks to Frontline for their more thorough and honest reporting.
Thanks to Frontline for their more thorough and honest reporting.
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The article most certainly does mention this, and apparently so does Hillary in her memior.
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Did you read the article? It does say she failed the D.C. Bar exam.
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Many attorneys fail the bar exam on their first, or even second or third try. Some people are better test-takers than others or have had better preparation or coaching before taking the exam. JB, you are not justified in calling this a "professional failure."
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Great story, but it would have been so much better had it not been packed with stereotypes about Appalachia and the South. Lots of Americans equate a Southern accent with a low IQ and the Times regularly perpetuates these regional prejudices in a ways it wouldn't consider for ethnic groups. Lincoln and Jefferson were Southerners. So is Bill Clinton and Hillary spent enough time here not to put us all down because of where we live.
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Back when President Clinton was running for president the first time, I heard on my NPR station that Hillary was going to be in a town close to where I lived to visit an elementary school. I jumped in the car and headed over to the school. She was just about to enter the school, when I called out to her and she came over and shook my hand. What amazed me was how she looked right at me and said hello. She had on a bright red dress and she really was beautiful. When I see her at a rope line today, I still notice how she looks right at the people when she shakes their hands.
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So how did she go from this young and idealistic woman with very little money, to someone who cashed in on her and her husband's public service, and now has a net worth with Bill of $111 million? Especially when she is supposed so concerned about income inequality?
That dollar figure is from Google.
That dollar figure is from Google.
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Ms Clinton like most women is smart and knows how the world of men works. We men on the other hand haven't a clue or for that matter even care how women see the world.
I think we are about to be educated.
I think we are about to be educated.
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She didn't make her bed. Another scandal looming.
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Alert Trey Gowdy. He's been looking for a smoking gun.
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Alert Newt Ganggreen. He's been looking for lint.
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Great reporting! I love it when a news company thwarts all relevant scandals (some of which making Watergate look like a small time local elementary school problem) in favor of mythologizing a road trip that happened decades ago! Great job of informing the public in an unbiased and unfettered manner! FOX would be proud. This far outdoes the Reagan library mythology they did a decade ago.
When you have gotten your enemy to speak your language then you have already won because you have began to control the very means in which you are communicating with them now. It is funny how the left is now voting for a female version of George W Bush "character" over identity politics. The right has won. Even if you get Hillary into office she is further right of Bush on most issues that arent tagged as "social" issues. She changes her mind over said "social" issues every hour. Trump would have been a less dangerous president because he wouldnt have gotten as much destruction completed. The banks wholly own the entirety of USA democracy and the proof is in articles like this one. More myths for the grazing to chew into cud as they continue living in their bubbles.
When you have gotten your enemy to speak your language then you have already won because you have began to control the very means in which you are communicating with them now. It is funny how the left is now voting for a female version of George W Bush "character" over identity politics. The right has won. Even if you get Hillary into office she is further right of Bush on most issues that arent tagged as "social" issues. She changes her mind over said "social" issues every hour. Trump would have been a less dangerous president because he wouldnt have gotten as much destruction completed. The banks wholly own the entirety of USA democracy and the proof is in articles like this one. More myths for the grazing to chew into cud as they continue living in their bubbles.
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This account says a lot about HRC's loyalty and longevity. How many people can claim to be still in touch with their landlady after 40 years? Or still married to the same spouse for that time, through good and bad? And still serving in the public sector? How many of us can claim that in over 40 years we have never had a misstep, or changed our opinion about something?
I don't see any friends of DTs coming up with recollections of a fond friendship.
I don't see any friends of DTs coming up with recollections of a fond friendship.
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Gee, whodda thought? A puff piece humanizing Hillary Clinton a week before the election while more incriminating emails surface? Why is it this is the first we've heard of Aunt B? Puh-leeze!! I've never doubted Hillary did start out on the straight and narrow with all good intension's and this was in fact the road trip that changed her life .... sadly for the worse.
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Eh, lighten up. As you say, it's a puff piece. We've never heard of Mrs Ehrman because she's really not important at all to the election; there's nothing sinister there. This article doesn't seem designed to earn HRC any votes, nor will it.
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{This article doesn't seem designed to earn HRC any votes, nor will it.}
Susan,
With all due respect, I must disagree. Just read these comments. You'd think she was being appointed for Sainthood. This was 42 years ago. I'm quite sure people would have many good stories to tell about VP-C 42 years ago as well.
This is the first and only presidential candidate that will enter the WH with the worse approval rating in the history of this Country. This is not only a puff piece to ensure she wins the election but to soften her image once she is elected.
Every email that continues to surface is yet another thorn in her side when it comes to trust and her integrity. In fact the very worst is yet to come. The republicans have already stated starting investigations the moment she's elected.
An article such as this bolsters the argument the're simply picking on the first female president. No differant than the claims they hated the first black President and why they pocked on him as well.
Susan,
With all due respect, I must disagree. Just read these comments. You'd think she was being appointed for Sainthood. This was 42 years ago. I'm quite sure people would have many good stories to tell about VP-C 42 years ago as well.
This is the first and only presidential candidate that will enter the WH with the worse approval rating in the history of this Country. This is not only a puff piece to ensure she wins the election but to soften her image once she is elected.
Every email that continues to surface is yet another thorn in her side when it comes to trust and her integrity. In fact the very worst is yet to come. The republicans have already stated starting investigations the moment she's elected.
An article such as this bolsters the argument the're simply picking on the first female president. No differant than the claims they hated the first black President and why they pocked on him as well.
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After living on each coast, I took a road trip from one coast to another in the mid-90s. Many of the people I encountered clearly had never seen an Asian, let alone one who spoke English with no accent. The U.S. strikes me as a bi-polar nation, with global, cosmopolitan areas on one side and more rural, culturally-isolated areas on the other. Yet we are all Americans. I hope that Hillary Clinton, having thrived in both areas, can unite our country as President.
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Beautifully expressed...snobbery.
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Hillary Rodham would have been far less interested in following Bill Clinton to the hinterlands of Arkansas had she successfully passed the Washington D.C. bar exam. With that failure she had no job offer in the Northeast.
The media keeps lauding Hillary Clinton's high intelligence, yet ignores that D.C. has one of the easiest bar exams of all and that people of high intelligence pass bar exams. Hillary's intelligence is ordinary and pedantic, there is no brilliance or great vision there to be had.
The media keeps lauding Hillary Clinton's high intelligence, yet ignores that D.C. has one of the easiest bar exams of all and that people of high intelligence pass bar exams. Hillary's intelligence is ordinary and pedantic, there is no brilliance or great vision there to be had.
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And now, pray, Donald Trump?
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Right. The media and many other people with more intelligence than what you just displayed. I guess the fact that she went to Yale Law and Wellesley before that means nothing too. My guess is you know nothing about bar exams and have never taken one. Many people from U of C law school, one of the best in the country have had trouble with the bar which does not measure ability and rewards those who study to the test, like those who attend John Marshall law school. Since you aren't interested in stating anything about who and where you are, you don't count.
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I certainly don't know what you do these days,
but I do know how far she's come.
How's that for "ordinary and pedantic?"
but I do know how far she's come.
How's that for "ordinary and pedantic?"
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It's wonderful that Mrs. Erhman lived long enough to see our next President - Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton - succeed in life in the way she always envisioned. Those were the times that a woman really needed a husband to get to the highest levels in the political arena. However, she was always the brains and common sense, as Bill as mentioned and she also helped Bill succeed. Theirs is a true partnership with obvious mutual love that has withstood some of life's hardest situations. I will proudly vote for her and look forward to Bill being the first male person in charge of daily happenings in the White House. There will be more like them and we need a new term for "first lady". Any ideas?
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Just as on a ship, "first mate" sounds good to me.
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First Laddie!
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Just finished reading thie article for a second time and what struck me the most was how Ms. Ehrman put down toward southern culture. Might want to remind her that southerners don't need her around anyhow. Thank you.
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Yes, it's sad that we all retain the prejudices of our lives. My mother, after her stroke, despite having taught me not to discriminate based on race, turned out to be quite the racist, as were her family and many of her generation. We live and learn.
I am aware that the warmth and supportiveness of communities sometimes runs contrary to the results of their politics. However, to me the efforts to find middle ground and serve all the people has largely been a Democratic effort.
So I apologize for my elder friends and their classist attitudes. They are wrong.
About race, it's interesting that we think we should strive for color blind. I have had the good fortune to work with many people of color, and I'd say recognizing differences is a better way. Everyone has goodness in them, and darkness as well. Difference is not the criterion; actions are.
I am aware that the warmth and supportiveness of communities sometimes runs contrary to the results of their politics. However, to me the efforts to find middle ground and serve all the people has largely been a Democratic effort.
So I apologize for my elder friends and their classist attitudes. They are wrong.
About race, it's interesting that we think we should strive for color blind. I have had the good fortune to work with many people of color, and I'd say recognizing differences is a better way. Everyone has goodness in them, and darkness as well. Difference is not the criterion; actions are.
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Pot calling the kettle black - you dismiss her northern/urban/Jewish culture just as easily. There is nothing inherently worthier about either.
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Sweet home Alabama.
I know this will fall on deaf ears but I wish Millennials could hear these stories and see themselves. Every young person sees people older than them and immediately just sees "old" and "obsolete". What would make life so much fuller and easier is if for just one second a young person will fathom that their youth will blow by so fast that it will seem like yesterday, but 20 years will have gone by. Every person who lives long enough to hit 40 knows this is true, and every 20 year old thinks they are somehow different, their generation somehow so much more remarkable than the previous. I don't think it is until you become a parent yourself that you realize your parents and grandparents were JUST LIKE YOU. They did their best, had hopes and dreams, loved deeply and were just as idealistic as you seem to think only you can be. Then you one day you realize compromise is a very good thing, and not much gets done without it. The one thing I know that is inevitable, like death and taxes, is the next generation will look at you as a lame old foggy one day, just like you are doing now to Hillary.
Hillary was an intelligent gifted young woman in love. If she has hardened over the years and become a private person it is because she learned the hard way. If you think todays election's blatant sexism is bad, you should have seen it then kids. She has strived her whole life to bring women's and children's issue to the forefront. She has my respect and gratitude as a 58 year old woman.
Hillary was an intelligent gifted young woman in love. If she has hardened over the years and become a private person it is because she learned the hard way. If you think todays election's blatant sexism is bad, you should have seen it then kids. She has strived her whole life to bring women's and children's issue to the forefront. She has my respect and gratitude as a 58 year old woman.
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Well put, young lady. She also has the respect and gratitude of this 71 year old man. Hillary has done what all the world"s religions urge all of us and particularly the gifted among us to do: use our gifts for the benefit of others.
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by your logic Hilary is responsible for Bill's indiscretions?
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Get serious, EinT.
So great to read this. I've liked Hillary from the BEGINNING - and I only wish my beloved mother were alive to see this. In 1991 (As Bill was initiating his run for Pres) my very astute mom, who was 71 at the time, said, "Watch it -- Hillary is going to run for president one day -- and she'll be great."
Mom -- this one's for you. Thank you, Madam Secretary, for being smart, patient, and just so damn good at who you are.
Mom -- this one's for you. Thank you, Madam Secretary, for being smart, patient, and just so damn good at who you are.
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Long, long road to the White House.
I hope she sets transition staff in motion after the election, and then disappears to a secluded island to recuperate before beginning her term.
I hope she sets transition staff in motion after the election, and then disappears to a secluded island to recuperate before beginning her term.
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I thought Mrs. Ehrman's reaction to the whole deal, especially the foreign climes of Arkansas, with its primitive, painted savages, was absolutely hilarious.
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I can't help but think what a great woman I always knew Hillary was deep down. Bill doesn't deserve her.
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Hey, if it wasn't for Bill she wouldn't be where she is now.
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Hey, if it weren't for Hillary, Bill wouldn't be anywhere near where he is/was.
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Thank you for sharing. While it is obviously important to consider a candidate's polices, I think it's most important to cast your vote based on a person's character. And while I understand this was written with a NYT positive spin, at it's heart it shows the same, consistent character of Ms. Clinton. She is loving, she is caring, she is loyal, & she is incredibly accomplished. Against most sane people's advice, she did what was in her heart & is now on the verge of possibly being the first woman POTUS. Is she perfect? No - who is? And if all that goodness, all that hard work, all that dedication isn't enough to overcome the human imperfections, then I don't know what is. (It certainly isn't her polar opposite opponent.)
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She is also greedy, corrupt and will do ANYTHING to get more power.
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Wow! Hillary is a regular person. She was young and in love. That's why she went to Arkansas. Great story, thanks.
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She went to Arkansas because that was the only bat exam she passed. Failed the one in DC.
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Does Trump have any friends with an equally heartwarming story? Does he have any friends?
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Yes he does have friends, The Clintons
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
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I have always believed that Hillary is an exceptional woman and a very capable one. I also never saw anything in her behavior over the years to doubt her integrity. I was always amazed at her "stamina", her seriousness and her commitment to anything she undertook. And I ma not disappointed now, it is just too bad that she has to battle such a relative nobody for the Presidency. And I am certain she will be a GREAT President - just watch.
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As our genius friend Lin-Manuel says "just you wait". So much to look forward to.
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Great story and another reminder of why I love Hillary.
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A lovely story. It made Hilary very likeable and I just voted for her with my
absentee ballot.
absentee ballot.
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Retired small tech company owner in MK. Interested observer of US society.
Admire the NYT ethos, not unlike the UK Guardian. Came from a poor family and aware of the struggles that disadvantaged people have to achieve to achieve success in life.
Admire the NYT ethos, not unlike the UK Guardian. Came from a poor family and aware of the struggles that disadvantaged people have to achieve to achieve success in life.
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Makes me want to vote for Hillary just to see the expression on Mrs. Ehrman's face.
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I'd rather see the expression on Donald's face
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The Times--along with practically every other media outlet--has published reams of material about Benghazi, the State Department emails, the Clinton Foundation, etc. etc But the publication of a story that depicts Hillary as an interesting young woman forty years ago elicits angry complaints from Hillary haters who want to read ONLY about her "scandals." What's most risible about these complaints is that most of those offering them apparently believe their position represents a stand against "propaganda."
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This is a "fluff", human interest piece. Belongs in USA Today or People Magazine. But I don't hate Hillary. I've never even met her.
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{What's most risible about these complaints is that most of those offering them apparently believe their position represents a stand against "propaganda."}
Let me make sure I've got this right. What Hillary did 42 years ago completely absolves her from everything she's done since then? Perhaps we could appoint her for Sainthood while we're at it?
I mean seriously folks, think about this. For all those Trump, Bush, et al haters, don't you think there's a plethora of stories just like this about them as well? In fact, wasn't there a story about John Kerry saving his daughter pet hamster?
Gosh, I know Monday's Halloween but I can assure you there's no great pumpkin either. It's a puff piece - nothing more.
Let me make sure I've got this right. What Hillary did 42 years ago completely absolves her from everything she's done since then? Perhaps we could appoint her for Sainthood while we're at it?
I mean seriously folks, think about this. For all those Trump, Bush, et al haters, don't you think there's a plethora of stories just like this about them as well? In fact, wasn't there a story about John Kerry saving his daughter pet hamster?
Gosh, I know Monday's Halloween but I can assure you there's no great pumpkin either. It's a puff piece - nothing more.
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Sorry dude, but the story resonates, makes her much more real and immediate and likeable and that is EXACTLY what gets your goat.
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Two of Trump's long term friends are Roger Stone and Howard Stone. If you research those two, yo will quickly discover what kind of distorted beliefs Trump and his close friends truly have. No comparison to Hillary and her friends. Nice story.
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Great wonderful story.
... Score 2-Ls (Love & Loyalty) for Hillary.
Now, I even have more respect for her for forgiving Bill, in order to keep her family together & selflessly serving under Barry, a less qualified political opponent.
... the gal (like most women) has had to put up with a lot.
And, to add insult to all her life's injuries: Donald Trump.
I shall hold my tongue.
... Score 2-Ls (Love & Loyalty) for Hillary.
Now, I even have more respect for her for forgiving Bill, in order to keep her family together & selflessly serving under Barry, a less qualified political opponent.
... the gal (like most women) has had to put up with a lot.
And, to add insult to all her life's injuries: Donald Trump.
I shall hold my tongue.
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The Donald and The Clinton's were best pals when Mr. Trump was a Democrat. That's why he knows how dirty they really are...
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
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Too bad they didn't continue to Austin TX to attend Willie Nelson's 4th of July Picnic for several days of some great country music, weed, nudity, and much more! Maybe she'd be called "Chillary" if she'd only done so!
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...so she does not make her bed and is sloppy with emails. Who cares? She is smart devoted public servant. She is loyal to country and family and has a bunch of good friends who vouch for her. Go ahead vote for the perpetually frowning grinch. It will be a dark Christmas in America...
Wake-up folks! In the political scale of what we must tolerate from those in power, Hillary's missteps are very, very minor. (Benghazi is not her fault! End of story. Tragedies, mistakes occur under any president. We elect human beings. In this case only one is running.)
Wake-up folks! In the political scale of what we must tolerate from those in power, Hillary's missteps are very, very minor. (Benghazi is not her fault! End of story. Tragedies, mistakes occur under any president. We elect human beings. In this case only one is running.)
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I hope 51% of the voters care. That's all we need to end the corruption in our current government.
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I was never a huge Hillary Clinton fan but I have come to discover that she is simply brilliant.
It was the debates that sealed the deal for me. Hillary defeated Trump and put the final nail in his Presidential run with such grace.
Nothing Trump threw at her affected her, Donald had never met a woman who could fight back.
Hillary was an attorney and has done 100’s of mock debates, she also has the advantage of a twice elected President as a husband.
The two are a wealth of experience which will serve us all well.
The advice Hillary gets from a twice elected President Bill Clinton is stunning.
I will be proud to have this woman lead our Nation. She is the perfect choice as our 1st Woman President.
It was the debates that sealed the deal for me. Hillary defeated Trump and put the final nail in his Presidential run with such grace.
Nothing Trump threw at her affected her, Donald had never met a woman who could fight back.
Hillary was an attorney and has done 100’s of mock debates, she also has the advantage of a twice elected President as a husband.
The two are a wealth of experience which will serve us all well.
The advice Hillary gets from a twice elected President Bill Clinton is stunning.
I will be proud to have this woman lead our Nation. She is the perfect choice as our 1st Woman President.
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A touching story, but naively presented.
Who in their right mind would believe that Hillary pursued Bill Clinton for love alone.
Mrs Ehrman? I think not.
Who in their right mind would believe that Hillary pursued Bill Clinton for love alone.
Mrs Ehrman? I think not.
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Just think, if Hillary had stayed in DC she would be a lobbyist for Exxon-Mobil or Lockheed-Martin or Goldman-Sachs, which is her calling; the rest of us would be spared her egregious. miserable campaign.
It will take the collective effort of the entire American citizenry -- shutting down the country if necessary -- to keep Hillary and her cabal of neo-colonial warmongers from steering this country into World War Three.
It will take the collective effort of the entire American citizenry -- shutting down the country if necessary -- to keep Hillary and her cabal of neo-colonial warmongers from steering this country into World War Three.
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Nice story but I cannot get over everything else about HRC. If the media would report the WikiLeaks revellations I think the polls would be much different at this point. The WL emails shows a DC Cabal with the Clintons sitting at the head table. They pander to the public to hold their power often for their own agenda and special interests. They have public versus private beliefs that are diametrically different. I'm tired of this and Americans are suffering. We cannot keep going in this direction and need to send in an outsider to unwind the corruption in DC--the best cure is sunlight and we aren't going to have any of that under HRC. Unfortunately Sanders is out, but we still have a choice.
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Have you read them? I got something different from them, some realists having to deal with the automatic prejudice of people who dismiss reality and want a white knight. Sure as shootin' Trump and the Republicans are not white knights. They're in it for themselves.
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And what is the other choice? Are you seriously considering Trump because you disapprove of Hillary Clinton's alleged "public vs. private" views? And you think Trump has anything but his own personal interests at heart? His personal interests begin and end with making more money and garnering more adulation and fame for himself. We don't need WikiLeaks to show us how carelessly Trump treats anyone outside his family circle. You can hear about that through dozens of stories his former colleagues, contractors, and employees tell. And if that's not enough to dissuade you, there are his own words. If you ever once seriously considered Sanders as a good choice for president, then you should be running as fast as you can away from the disaster that is Trump.
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So, you think the greatest self appointed con man in modern history will unwind the corruption in DC? He doesn't even want to unwind it, he wants to exploit it to his own benefit.
Good grief!
Good grief!
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This article's rehash of Mrs. Ehrman's disdain for the Southern locales they traveled through certainly won't do HRC any favors in those places! It completely reinforces the patronizing attitudes people there assume Northerners to have about them. Kudos though, to Hillary for following her heart and not being so narrow minded as to think that only a life and career in the urban northeast is worthwhile.
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Sheesh, cut her some slack, it was over 40 years ago, how old are you? The south was not as urbane then as now.
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While my sympathies are with Mrs. Ehrman and Clinton, I have some negative feeling about the disdain you expressed. Could one get French bread in Fayetteville in 1974? Probably, though not very good French bread. But one couldn't get good barbecue in Staten Island (or even any barbecue perhaps), either.
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That snapshot of two (we hope) 20-something future presidents in their shorts and t-shirts, having a good time on a summer afternoon in Fayetteville, is one for the Smithsonian.
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Maybe she will be impeached as well. The first husband-wife combo to ever be impeached.
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Where was this woman years ago? Wapo should interview people who knew the candidates when they were at the turning point of their lives. Tired of sensational tabloid type garbage that even Wapo is putting out adnaseum about the same old stuff be it emails, infidelity, etc just to grab readers' attention. I enjoyed this article a lot.
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"I love him and I want to be with him." How perfect.
In this statement, one can see Hillary's sense of logic and utter stubbornness, but also her idealism, faith, and dreams for the future - traits that seem to be camouflaged by her brown outfits, determination, and brains.
In this statement, one can see Hillary's sense of logic and utter stubbornness, but also her idealism, faith, and dreams for the future - traits that seem to be camouflaged by her brown outfits, determination, and brains.
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I enjoyed reading this very much. Hillary knew what she wanted then and she knows now. I think she has good instincts about what really matters, notwithstanding Podesta's remark. Everyone makes mistakes and they are sometimes whoppers - but it's important to learn and move on. One other thing I admire about Hillary is her unbelievable tenacity. This is a character trait that will serve her well as President and in the face of the continued inane and implacable Republican resistance to governing.
My wish list is to take back the Senate, the House, get liberal SC justices appointed (is the nuclear option needed?), end gerrymandering (by either party) and make some real economic and social progress.
My wish list is to take back the Senate, the House, get liberal SC justices appointed (is the nuclear option needed?), end gerrymandering (by either party) and make some real economic and social progress.
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In 1974, Bill was teaching law in Fayetteville -- but he was also running for Congress (which this article neglects to mention).
I read another version elsewhere of this story in which Sarah Ehrman spent the whole road trip trying to talk Hillary out of moving to Arkansas but then, once they got to Arkansas, she saw Bill give a campaign speech, and Ehrman then saw the wisdom of Hillary's decision.
Either way, this road trip is a delightful story.
I read another version elsewhere of this story in which Sarah Ehrman spent the whole road trip trying to talk Hillary out of moving to Arkansas but then, once they got to Arkansas, she saw Bill give a campaign speech, and Ehrman then saw the wisdom of Hillary's decision.
Either way, this road trip is a delightful story.
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"Mrs. Clinton planned to take the bus to Fayetteville, where Mr. Clinton was teaching law and running for Congress."
You must have missed this sentence.
You must have missed this sentence.
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The article DOES state that Bill Clinton was running for congress, in the same sentence where it says he was teaching law at Fayetteville.
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This underscores a central fact about Hillary Clinton. She has an enormous cadre of life-long friends and acquaintances, people who know her best and who stand by her side. By stark contrast, Donald Trump has only a few current-day associates. Most who knew Donald Trump in the past tell stories of being cheated or fooled. Few talk about his character, except his single-minded desire to make money.
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Have you read this article yet...
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
the best of friends. You know what they say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
http://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
the best of friends. You know what they say, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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Interesting glimpse into the life of the young HRC, but I'm curious about the timeline of events in this story. The reporter says the trip took place in August 1974 but then mentions Ehrman and Clinton drove into Fayetteville on a weekend where the Razorbacks were playing the University of Texas. Football season doesn't start until September and according to records Arkansas played at Texas that year on October 19th. UT did not come to Fayetteville in 1974.
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I am sure you have your football facts correct, but I don't think it detracts from Ehrman's recollections. One rowdy weekend is pretty much the same as another, whether it be a football weekend or something else. I personally would not have known a Razorback from a quarterback, back in those days, before Google. It's sounds like they drove into a riotous celebration in a small college town, something she had not experienced before
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Come on now Mr. T, you should know by now the truth and facts don't matter. It's all an illusion, smoke and mirrors.
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Guys, it's time to change the newspapers name to what it really is. The HiLIARy Clinton Times...... We really have reached the all time low in American press....
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Despite all that, Hillary is still not good enough because of what Bill did. Trump with his own three wives, Billy Bush tape and a dozen accusers looking for fame and six bankruptcies and what not is better. Not that smart to argue with those who believe that.
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Huh?
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Thank you for a sweet, and well written article. A nice treat to read on a Friday morning.
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I had to stop reading when I got to the comment about Hillary not always making her bed. I have never read an article about a man that mentioned anything about his housekeeping tendencies.
Please just stop.
Please just stop.
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FYI:
Hillary Clinton was not fired from the House Judiciary Committee's Watergate investigation by Chief Counsel Jerry Zeifman.
http://www.snopes.com/POLITICS/clintons/zeifman.asp
Hillary Clinton was not fired from the House Judiciary Committee's Watergate investigation by Chief Counsel Jerry Zeifman.
http://www.snopes.com/POLITICS/clintons/zeifman.asp
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The Truth or Fiction website is not as convinced of the entire innocence of Hillary as is Snopes. It appears that this fellow Zeitman couldn't have fired her because she did not report directly to him but based on her unethical conduct wanted to do so. He said he regrets not being more forceful in making that case to the chief counsel.
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Ed, the Washington Post article includes your complaint and concludes that as he was not her supervisor he couldn't have fired her. In any case the report came out in August and she was paid up to September, when other members also received their final paychecks. She was young, and clearly politics were involved; an early lesson that you can't attain perfection when there are differences in the room. I don't think you get to dismiss the fact that she was fired because one guy didn't like her or her work and wanted rid of her.
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Thank you for the clarity here. Very helpful!!!
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This is a ridiculous propaganda piece, an example of what happens when the press degenerates into a partisan propaganda machine. Our elections have long been criticized as a personality extravaganza, and this is some of the worst nonsense yet. There is no valuable information in this piece. I do not care about the candidates' private lives. Even more remarkable is how the Clinton blog team is active in running up responses with positive feedback. Utterly disgusting.
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She was Fired from the Watergate Commission which Amy failed to Mention. Any good this HRC may have done is far outweighed by her dirty deeds. I pity this country of she is ever elected ...
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Nope. Simply not true. "The zombie claim that Hillary Clinton was fired during the Watergate inquiry"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
Capitalizing the words confirmed them?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
Capitalizing the words confirmed them?
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She was not fired. The Washington Post has a detailed debunking of the persistent lie.
The claim she was fired from the Watergate Committee is entirely false. See Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp If a person enjoys believing falsehoods, please go ahead. Buy it is best not circulate false information to mislead others.
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She believed in him, he believes in her.
All the rest is commentary. Go HRC.
You have my vote.
All the rest is commentary. Go HRC.
You have my vote.
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One thing that Wikileaks has shown us is that the corporate media works as PR propagandist for the establishment..... Good job NYT!
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Beautiful story. As we Armenians have an old saying, which my mother would often repeat, " tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are". She has some remarkable old royal friends, who tell us her real character, a person with a real true solid character is what we need in the White House and as our next president. I do not know her personally but towards the end of her campaign in 08, had the honor of meeting her in a small gathering, she spoke for 30 minutes or so, took pictures with us, signed books, and I saw nothing, but a real sincere , graceful , smart, sharp, super hard working, alert and aware person, Had never met or heard anyone like her before . As a real human being she has made mistakes, or some poor judgments at times, like all of us, but unlike some leaders of want to be leaders, she has learned from her mistakes, matured and as results has evolved, which is what a real character and true leadership is all about, Grown up mature individuals who are not afraid to admit their mistakes, learn, grow, forgive and most of all have love , compassion & passion in their hearts. Her life and history is the testament to that. in today's toxic negative environment, we need leaders who lift us up to be better, to do better and raise above the challenges, to see each person's true potential and strive for our individual personal growth and success, but not go low, dig lower and ultimately lose ourselves in the gutter.
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This charming account of the trip down I-81 gives an endearing portrait of Hillary Clinton, and enriches the rather grim picture of her battle against Trump. The nasty comments regarding this article reveal much about the commenters, but can't take away from the pleasure of Mrs. Clinton's followers in seeing the young idealistic woman she was.
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That had to be quite the sight to see -- a Jewish woman with all of those Hog hats around in Fayetteville!
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Well, your contrast is a bit off. There were plenty of Jewish residents of Fayetteville at the time. A NE U.S. sophisticate and all those hog hats around would be a more apt contrast.
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This article made me smile. I too made an inconvenient move for love, that some thought was crazy. It did all work out.
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Trying to humanize a candidate, especially in this socially harsh election cycle, is a good thing. However, we have to be equitable. Where is the one on Trump?
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They did a history of the Trump family and Donald's role in it earlier this year, didn't they?
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We have heard lots about Trump's personal life. It's just not very clean, plastered all over the headlines for decades as he cheated working stiffs and demeaned women and all.
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Hillary is as corrupt and phony as can be. She is in the pocket of wealthy special interests such as Goldman Sachs. The enlightened people of Arkansas knew that she was and is a phony long before there were damning/confirming disclosures by something called Wikileaks or hacked emails.
Anyone who fakes a Southern drawl over and over again is a Fake with a capital F. Trump is no where near the flawed, dishonest character that she is, and he is not beholden to special interests. Vote wisely.
Anyone who fakes a Southern drawl over and over again is a Fake with a capital F. Trump is no where near the flawed, dishonest character that she is, and he is not beholden to special interests. Vote wisely.
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NyTimes is such a big sycophant of Hillary. They seem to be glorifying everything about her and taking lot of effort to hide her incompetence under carpet. Kind of a campaign dog for her. They may just end up helping her get elected. Will NyTimes continue to be a sycophant to her when she is President and continue to hide stuff under the carpet? Coz..arent they the biggest campaigner for her?
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There's a lesson here for young, up and coming political leaders: get out of DC and NYC, the eastern seaboard, and go where ordinary people live.
Put aside ideology. G.H.W. Bush, the offspring of Yankee bluebloods, looked at the census projections circa 1950, and decamped to Texas. JFK, who'd attended Harvard while Bush went to Yale, was elected in 1960, the last nor'easterner to succeed. Bush waited a lot longer, but in time he, then his children, reached high offices. The Kennedy clan, still ensconced in New England, sunk to also-ran status.
Had Kennedys moved south southwest they too might still be a national presence. Until Obama, only southern governess were electable as Democrat presidents. The Clintons, with middle, even lower-middle class backgrounds might have traded everything to be in the bright lights big city. Instead they chose to go down home, and that made all the difference.
Chicago isn't Waco or Fayetteville, but Obama too left a plush certainty as a Harvard lawyer (aren't all the Supreme Court justices ex-Harvard lawyers?). His down home was urban, but the lesson is the same: sacrifice when you're young, to reap rewards later.
Put aside ideology. G.H.W. Bush, the offspring of Yankee bluebloods, looked at the census projections circa 1950, and decamped to Texas. JFK, who'd attended Harvard while Bush went to Yale, was elected in 1960, the last nor'easterner to succeed. Bush waited a lot longer, but in time he, then his children, reached high offices. The Kennedy clan, still ensconced in New England, sunk to also-ran status.
Had Kennedys moved south southwest they too might still be a national presence. Until Obama, only southern governess were electable as Democrat presidents. The Clintons, with middle, even lower-middle class backgrounds might have traded everything to be in the bright lights big city. Instead they chose to go down home, and that made all the difference.
Chicago isn't Waco or Fayetteville, but Obama too left a plush certainty as a Harvard lawyer (aren't all the Supreme Court justices ex-Harvard lawyers?). His down home was urban, but the lesson is the same: sacrifice when you're young, to reap rewards later.
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Nice article about two different women. One, from Staten Island, who has an obvious arrogant disdain for Southerners and makes constant denigrating comments about their culture. And the other woman, someone who saw her hopes and dreams tied in with a young man from Arkansas. As a Hillary supporter, thank God she chose to go to Arkansas.
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FYI, the passing rate for the DC bar exam is the second lowest in the nation, at 46%. Only California is lower.
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Read Grifters- in-Chief in Oct 27 16 WSJ by Strassel. The Clinton's don't draw lines between their "charity and personal enrichment". Bingo!
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They do draw lines: personal enrichment first and then "let's build a factory in Haiti. but make sure we get one of our donors to build it." Whatever happened to the factory?
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Classic NYT work: Nice piece of Sovietized media propaganda, i.e., Stalin always enjoyed playing with the kids in the park when he was just a young man working for all the people, but I'd rather see a memory-lane piece about all the deleted emails, the unabashed obstruction of justice, aides taking the 5th, and the money trail "in and out" of the Clinton Foundation.
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My thought, exactly!
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You know, you should have more experience of what it's like to be "sovietized". Putin is not above having his enemies jailed and offed, no jury necessary. Thuggery at that high a level, and a desire to put a thumb on the scale of our election. Not a nice place at all.
You have quite a few freedoms in this country, and you just exercised one of them.
You have quite a few freedoms in this country, and you just exercised one of them.
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This really ought to help sway those undecided voters out there. What's on tomorrow's menu, "Hillary Clinton once told a cashier they had given her too much change, recounts a childhood friend."?
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Call me old-fashioned, but I always count my change and return it if it's too much.
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Last night I watched the Vermont Senatorial debate. The five loyal and concerned US citizens actually had policy positions they thought would make America great and put America back on track.
There was a socialist from the Peace and Freedom Party who considered his friend Bernie Sanders a liberal capitalist socialist, the Marijuana Party Candidate who espoused an anti Elite position but was a social libertarian, a fiscal liberal, branding both Leahy and Vermont Public Television fascist. The Independent defined policy not political labels as most important. Fourth was the Republican who harkened backed to the day when New England was the home of liberal Republicans such as George Aiken. Last was Senator Leahy who was in fact the only real conservative on the stage and had a hard time defending his conservative beliefs in the avalanche of radical ideas put forth on the stage.
These are indeed interesting times when liberals are called conservatives and liberals are called conservatives.
When Edmund Burke was the champion of liberalism he spoke to equal rights for all, an end to slavery, female suffrage and self rule in India. Today Edmund Burke is mistakenly made the Champion of the right even as they call for different classes of citizens and the National Review calls for the return of Apartheid in South Africa.
What we learn from history is that the Hillary Clinton of 1972 is a true heir of Edmund Burke.
There was a socialist from the Peace and Freedom Party who considered his friend Bernie Sanders a liberal capitalist socialist, the Marijuana Party Candidate who espoused an anti Elite position but was a social libertarian, a fiscal liberal, branding both Leahy and Vermont Public Television fascist. The Independent defined policy not political labels as most important. Fourth was the Republican who harkened backed to the day when New England was the home of liberal Republicans such as George Aiken. Last was Senator Leahy who was in fact the only real conservative on the stage and had a hard time defending his conservative beliefs in the avalanche of radical ideas put forth on the stage.
These are indeed interesting times when liberals are called conservatives and liberals are called conservatives.
When Edmund Burke was the champion of liberalism he spoke to equal rights for all, an end to slavery, female suffrage and self rule in India. Today Edmund Burke is mistakenly made the Champion of the right even as they call for different classes of citizens and the National Review calls for the return of Apartheid in South Africa.
What we learn from history is that the Hillary Clinton of 1972 is a true heir of Edmund Burke.
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Thank you, good story. I just read an interesting article in my 3 Oct. New Yorker about utopian communities. A few gems: "eogism, acquisitiveness, competitiveness, and all the other ills of human flesh bob repeatedly to the surface, like a cork that will not be submerged."
"The final, articulated goal remains always just out of reach. But a lot of good can nonetheless result from aiming for that goal"
"the tyranny of high expectations"
And this somewhat summarizes my journey from Bernie to Hillary, and complaint with the destructive purity monster:
"The zealous conviction of utopians that the present must be erased, rather than built upon, fuels their denunciations of pragmatic incrementalism. It leads them to belittle the energies of reformism, and to obscure the truth that change and reform do occur, even if in a halting and often unfathomable manner. Few, if any, major improvements in recent decades ... can be attributed to utopianism. ... Aiming not at perfection but at improvement, accepting the vagaries of human nature as a premise that policy must accommodate, rather than wish away, meliorism forces a longer, more calibrated approach. It is not a path for the impatient, but it has the verdict of history on its side. The utopian has a better story to tell; the meliorist leaves us with a better world."
Akash Kapur: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/03/the-return-of-the-utopians
"The final, articulated goal remains always just out of reach. But a lot of good can nonetheless result from aiming for that goal"
"the tyranny of high expectations"
And this somewhat summarizes my journey from Bernie to Hillary, and complaint with the destructive purity monster:
"The zealous conviction of utopians that the present must be erased, rather than built upon, fuels their denunciations of pragmatic incrementalism. It leads them to belittle the energies of reformism, and to obscure the truth that change and reform do occur, even if in a halting and often unfathomable manner. Few, if any, major improvements in recent decades ... can be attributed to utopianism. ... Aiming not at perfection but at improvement, accepting the vagaries of human nature as a premise that policy must accommodate, rather than wish away, meliorism forces a longer, more calibrated approach. It is not a path for the impatient, but it has the verdict of history on its side. The utopian has a better story to tell; the meliorist leaves us with a better world."
Akash Kapur: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/03/the-return-of-the-utopians
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Liberal capitalist socialist? I think that's my party. The genealogy of political views is getting confusing
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Cheryl,
I a real world everything is nuanced. When Fascism and McCarthyism went out of style suddenly the Buckleys became conservative. We forgot about the cross burning and the support for Generalissimo Franco. We forgot about Redhunter and McCarthy and his Enemies and all the other proMcCarthy writings and their financial support.
Edmund Burke the British parliamentarian and pro American liberal philosopher was put front and center as the father of American conservatism. The fact that Edmund Burke opposed everything today's fascists stand for does not stop our fascists from quoting him whenever possible.
When the National Review writes how wonderful it would be for South Africa to return to apartheid editorials it is really about Jim Crow.
Edmund Burke was a liberal, he believed in sexual,cultural, religious, ethnic end political equality\.
Burke's conservative counterpart was Dr Samuel Johnson who gave specific meanings to words and an understanding of both poetry and prose.
Today's conservatives think words are a tool and have no real meaning.
Dr Johnson told us militia were the government's military and arms were weapons of war. Johnson tells us the second amendment is about national sovereignty Scalia used those words to promote his fascist ideology.
I vote policy not ideology and am comfortable with both real conservatives and real liberals but today's American Conservatives are neither. They are fascists, theocrats, reactionaries, oligarchs sophists and scoundrels.
I a real world everything is nuanced. When Fascism and McCarthyism went out of style suddenly the Buckleys became conservative. We forgot about the cross burning and the support for Generalissimo Franco. We forgot about Redhunter and McCarthy and his Enemies and all the other proMcCarthy writings and their financial support.
Edmund Burke the British parliamentarian and pro American liberal philosopher was put front and center as the father of American conservatism. The fact that Edmund Burke opposed everything today's fascists stand for does not stop our fascists from quoting him whenever possible.
When the National Review writes how wonderful it would be for South Africa to return to apartheid editorials it is really about Jim Crow.
Edmund Burke was a liberal, he believed in sexual,cultural, religious, ethnic end political equality\.
Burke's conservative counterpart was Dr Samuel Johnson who gave specific meanings to words and an understanding of both poetry and prose.
Today's conservatives think words are a tool and have no real meaning.
Dr Johnson told us militia were the government's military and arms were weapons of war. Johnson tells us the second amendment is about national sovereignty Scalia used those words to promote his fascist ideology.
I vote policy not ideology and am comfortable with both real conservatives and real liberals but today's American Conservatives are neither. They are fascists, theocrats, reactionaries, oligarchs sophists and scoundrels.
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Wonderful, refreshing piece. As others have mentioned, it's an important distinction that Hillary Clinton has many lifelong/longstanding friends, like Sara Ehrman, who add richness to her political persona, while Trump surrounds himself with mini-Trumps. We won't gain insight into Donald, because the toddler 'id' we've seen on rampant display over the past election cycle (and lifetime) is a one-note, autocratic song. I doubt he has any deep, lifelong, non-salaried friendships with anyone — they'd only draw attention away from himself and his toys.
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She didn't finish working on the Watergate case she was fired by her boss for trying to deny Nixon his rights during the case. Look it up and tell the full story rather than some fairytale lie
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Simply not true: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
"Finally, here’s the critical piece of evidence unearthed by Crites: the pay records of the Judiciary Committee. Note that Hillary Rodham is paid through Sept. 4; two of her more senior colleagues on the impeachment staff, associate special counsel Robert Sack and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum, were paid through Sept. 2 and Sept. 6, respectively. The committee’s impeachment report was published Aug. 20, and the staff’s work was done by early September."
"Finally, here’s the critical piece of evidence unearthed by Crites: the pay records of the Judiciary Committee. Note that Hillary Rodham is paid through Sept. 4; two of her more senior colleagues on the impeachment staff, associate special counsel Robert Sack and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum, were paid through Sept. 2 and Sept. 6, respectively. The committee’s impeachment report was published Aug. 20, and the staff’s work was done by early September."
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Yes, look it up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
Turns out you have the story wrong, she was not fired. She was a lawyer doing her job.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
Turns out you have the story wrong, she was not fired. She was a lawyer doing her job.
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I did -- she was NOT fired. Even the Cato Institute acknowledges this.
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Interesting story. We all started somewhere and Hillary knew where she was going and how to get there.
I do have one question:
If Hillary worked for the Watergate subcommittee, she worked on the Hill. The DNC had its offices in the Watergate. That's where the famous break-in occurred. Both the House and Senate have office buildings and the various committees and subcommittees have office space and hearing rooms.
I expect Hillary worked for the Watergate subcommittee, probably the House's. While the DNC went for expensive offices, the House and Senate have plenty of space. Renting a suite in the Watergate would have been expensive, inconvenient, and really hard to justify for a Congressional committee or subcommittee. Security would have been a nightmare.
Was Hillary working in the Watergate for the DNC or for a subcommittee on the Hill? While someone bright and ambitious could parlay a position as subcommittee or committee staff into something in a number of years, it's not a guarantee. Most committee/ subcommittee staffers don't last a year. In DC, you prove yourself quickly or go away.
Those of us who've spent our lives in and around DC don't want to hear you're important because you're a lawyer and work on the Hill. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee. It's a tough town.
If Trump gets elected, this town will take him down, hard and fast. It will make the campaign look like a cakewalk.
I do have one question:
If Hillary worked for the Watergate subcommittee, she worked on the Hill. The DNC had its offices in the Watergate. That's where the famous break-in occurred. Both the House and Senate have office buildings and the various committees and subcommittees have office space and hearing rooms.
I expect Hillary worked for the Watergate subcommittee, probably the House's. While the DNC went for expensive offices, the House and Senate have plenty of space. Renting a suite in the Watergate would have been expensive, inconvenient, and really hard to justify for a Congressional committee or subcommittee. Security would have been a nightmare.
Was Hillary working in the Watergate for the DNC or for a subcommittee on the Hill? While someone bright and ambitious could parlay a position as subcommittee or committee staff into something in a number of years, it's not a guarantee. Most committee/ subcommittee staffers don't last a year. In DC, you prove yourself quickly or go away.
Those of us who've spent our lives in and around DC don't want to hear you're important because you're a lawyer and work on the Hill. That and $5 will get you a cup of coffee. It's a tough town.
If Trump gets elected, this town will take him down, hard and fast. It will make the campaign look like a cakewalk.
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She was young and a junior member of a team. The story is somewhat covered here, and since so many people have grabbed the HillaryHateTM meme of the moment that she was "fired" (she wasn't) it's worth a look: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
"Fact Checker: The zombie claim that Hillary Clinton was fired during the Watergate inquiry"
"Fact Checker: The zombie claim that Hillary Clinton was fired during the Watergate inquiry"
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She was a young, recent law school graduate working as one of the many staffers on the Watergate investigation House Judiciary committee--just a bit player (and she's never claimed to have been anything more). But in the Frontline piece mentioned here (by me and another commenter), she apparently took it quite seriously and worked really hard on it. I suspect it could be one of the reasons she failed the DC bar exam, because she was working so hard on this rather than studying for for the bar.
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You live in a dream world - a product of your own imagination. You have not mentioned New York City, San Francisco, Houston, Atlanta, etc. - cities of power and influence that have helped build this country - not by government but by private industry. Washington is nothing but a bunch of bureaucrats who have managed to destroy the fabric of America. My answer to you is: If Clinton gets elected, this country will take her down hard and fast. It will make the campaign look like a cakewalk.
I liked this article because, for once, I didn't have to read about emails, Benghazi, how much people dislike HRC, how republicans are already talking about how they're going to cripple her presidency not even knowing if she will be elected. And yes, the woman who drive with her to Arkansas didn't understand the reason why people want to live in more rural states....so what? I know people who live in rural areas who would never live in a big city, so what?
It's a puff piece, so what?
Can't anybody just appreciate this column for what it was? A different view of Clinton than the one we've been fed for the last 30 years.
It's a puff piece, so what?
Can't anybody just appreciate this column for what it was? A different view of Clinton than the one we've been fed for the last 30 years.
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Same as it ever was. Articles like this exist to make her seem more "human" and relatable.
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Thanks! My sentiments exactly - too little of these and too many of the same old same old email, infidelity, etc.
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Because she is human and reliable. TO quote Stephen Colbert, reality has a well known liberal bias.
Just stop with the HillaryHateTM, those of you who are clinging to it for dear life.
She's a complicated woman with an interesting life story who has the potential to do a whole lot of good. Because she has worked she has discovered that purity is arrogant and prevents action. She's tarnished most of all by a quarter century of Republican opposition work. Just open your mind and look at her.
Once she and some good public servants are in office (please guys, just do it!), I have every intention of doing what little I can to push for real environmental progress, and hope she will realize that no matter how needed it is American international policing has unintended and sometimes disastrous consequences.
But the Clinton Foundation is a good thing, not a bad. Benghazi was largely the result of Republicans defunding embassy security and trying to pin it on her, at great expense. The emails pale in comparison to the millions of emails deleted by almost every Republican. The hacked emails show a complex of reality, and are surprisingly bland. There's even some good stuff about Podesta working against climate denial that is excellent.
The ACA is handicapped by Republican obstruction, but with Democrats in office we can do stuff.
So just enjoy the story, and give her a chance. Blaming Democrats for what Republicans do, no matter how good they are at making messes to blame us for, is just plain wrong.
She's a complicated woman with an interesting life story who has the potential to do a whole lot of good. Because she has worked she has discovered that purity is arrogant and prevents action. She's tarnished most of all by a quarter century of Republican opposition work. Just open your mind and look at her.
Once she and some good public servants are in office (please guys, just do it!), I have every intention of doing what little I can to push for real environmental progress, and hope she will realize that no matter how needed it is American international policing has unintended and sometimes disastrous consequences.
But the Clinton Foundation is a good thing, not a bad. Benghazi was largely the result of Republicans defunding embassy security and trying to pin it on her, at great expense. The emails pale in comparison to the millions of emails deleted by almost every Republican. The hacked emails show a complex of reality, and are surprisingly bland. There's even some good stuff about Podesta working against climate denial that is excellent.
The ACA is handicapped by Republican obstruction, but with Democrats in office we can do stuff.
So just enjoy the story, and give her a chance. Blaming Democrats for what Republicans do, no matter how good they are at making messes to blame us for, is just plain wrong.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for mentioning the Republicans' refusal to allocate more money for embassy security. It's a point they won't mention when they're screaming "Benghazi"...
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It appears that she was not fired, but at least one member of the staff didn't think much of her work and even said she was a liar and unethical. Let's assume he was biased and discount his opinion entirely. Did anyone think she did a particularly good job? Can someone please explain why all these people like this 97 year old woman thought this young lawyer who flunked the bar and served on the watergate committee with no particular distinction was so obviously marked for greatness? I am not a Hillary hater, but I just don't get this legend about a young woman destined for greatness almost from birth. I think a person with incredible determination, limited skills and a gift for scheming is closer to the truth.
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Sit back and enjoy this story? Like, maybe, I am reading Eleanor Roosevelt's biography? The Clinton's past reads like a nightmare - one of corruption, lies, and greed. I have investigated other corrupt politicians but none come even close to these two.
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"She didn't make her bed"
Ah, it's like my mother-in-law speaking. :)
Hillary, we nasty women do not care if you made your bed. We just need you to be a good president...and you will.
This is a very endearing story. Hoping Sarah Ehrman has a front row seat at the inauguration. It would be lovely. We'll be watching.
Ah, it's like my mother-in-law speaking. :)
Hillary, we nasty women do not care if you made your bed. We just need you to be a good president...and you will.
This is a very endearing story. Hoping Sarah Ehrman has a front row seat at the inauguration. It would be lovely. We'll be watching.
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No she won't make a good president. Watch and wait.
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More thank like she will make an excellent president, given half a chance (and not wall to wall Republican obstruction, business as usual). Watch and wait.
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I wish Mrs. Ehrman had been my landlady when I was 26 years old.
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In response to Caroline: Mrs. Ehrman is the typs of Americans we need to make this country even greater. I just feel such nostalgia for Americans like her, caring nurturing and imaging taking time to personally drive a young woman across so many states because of love, not hate. Compare this with the other presidential candidate who for eight years promoted a lie of hate that President Obama was not born in the US. Just compare both people and, maybe, one can understand the difference between trying to help others and working to destroy others!
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Thank you for this piece. I didn't think I could love the Clintons any more, but now I feel like I've fallen in love with them all over again. Thank you, New York Times, thank you! Wow, just wow!
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Beautiful story, thanks.
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I love this story. Everything about it. That Mrs. Ehrman wanted her bright young woman lawyer friend to amount to something, because she believed in her, and that somehow Hillary Rodham had already decided that she'd found her life partner. One of my friends hates that Hillary stayed with Bill through all of his affairs, the humiliations, but I see something different. She is, has been, maybe will always be that 26 year old starry eyed woman who loved someone deeply. Love is like that. It's a decision, not a feeling. A decision made every day, and that does really mean something. I'm with her.
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If she were a Republican who had stayed married to a husband who had been out walking the Appalachian trail or having an affair with his congressional aide (here's looking at you, Newt), she'd be extolled as an example of true womanhood: forgiving and standing by her man.
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I love that Hillary stayed with Bill. It shows her loyalty and devotion.
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I wonder how many of them are Russian… some of the grammar and word choice sounds stilted and not form a native speaker of English.
It is interesting that a rather simple story about Hillary as a flesh and blood young woman that largely skirts the political aspects is simply impossible for many her critics to read without blowing a gasket. It is as if the right wing cannot process basic normal everyday information without being told how to think politically about the matter, or at least have a political angle to complain about. They have my pity.
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Why should you have pity for people who appear to have lost their humanity, or at least to have shelved it during this election?
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Strangely, the article fails to mention that Hillary "finished worked on the Watergate committee" by getting kicked off for unethical behavior.
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Here you go:
"The zombie claim that Hillary Clinton was fired during the Watergate inquiry"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
So typical. You poison the well, nobody can drink from it. You burn down the house, it leaves you homeless.
"The zombie claim that Hillary Clinton was fired during the Watergate inquiry"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
So typical. You poison the well, nobody can drink from it. You burn down the house, it leaves you homeless.
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Fact check: This claim, from the mouth of Trump, got four Pinnochios from The Washington Post. A four is a whopper of a lie.
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Thanks Susan.
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Something tells me that whichever path Hillary had chosen in that fateful year of 1974, we would all know her name today. She knowingly exchanged what was shaping into a rocket-like career trajectory in the nation's capital to form a lifelong union with the love of her life in a state that was, at the time, a backwater and off the beaten path. The fact that she listened to her own inner voice and single-mindedly pursued a life of her own making, despite good advice from an experienced, sophisticated older woman only makes me like and admire Hillary more.
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Actually, moving to Arkansas to be with Bill Clinton made perfect political sense. The Washington, DC area is teeming with talented, ambitious political wannabes clawing their way up the ladder. It is extremely difficult to stand out. Bill Clinton, by all accounts, is personally charming, and as a state director for a major party presidential candidate, had clearly already made significant political connections. He personally aspired to run for political office, and his best chance was in his home state of Arkansas. There were numerous opportunities and the Clintons availed themselves.
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HRC's life is the single most solid example of just what a woman had to do, the compromises, etc. in order to "stay in the locker room" with the big boys to be perceived as both credible and formidable enough to be accepted, engaged with and - dare I say it - feared by her political opponents! Can you imagine that!!
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I fear that the "big boys" that you allude to were horrified at the lengths to which the Clintons will go to in order to grasp power. As of today, the only one who is not afraid of them is Donald Trump. So far, the Clintons have managed, all by themselves, to destroy the reputations of the State Department, the IRS, the media and the FBI. You use the word "formidable"; I use the word "frightening".
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This is a sobering and strong lesson for all of mankind.
A young woman, with a lot of kooky ideas about socialism and Alinsky's Rules for Radicals book, comes out of college looking like she has the brightest future ever, and in three or four decades becomes the most corrupt candidate to ever lead a national party campaign.
In pursuing her own corrupted management of the U.S. Department of State, she drew many honest and moral people, including a president, into her orbit of corruption as she and her husband personally earned a hundred million dollars and converted the idea of charity into a dynamic money-maker worthy of a Chicago organized crime syndicate.
Our only hope is that she will be so busy expanding her international access business and more obstruction of justice, perjury, racketeering, tax evasion, and money laundering that she won't savage the middle class, poor workers, and religious groups any more that her angry predecessor already has.
A young woman, with a lot of kooky ideas about socialism and Alinsky's Rules for Radicals book, comes out of college looking like she has the brightest future ever, and in three or four decades becomes the most corrupt candidate to ever lead a national party campaign.
In pursuing her own corrupted management of the U.S. Department of State, she drew many honest and moral people, including a president, into her orbit of corruption as she and her husband personally earned a hundred million dollars and converted the idea of charity into a dynamic money-maker worthy of a Chicago organized crime syndicate.
Our only hope is that she will be so busy expanding her international access business and more obstruction of justice, perjury, racketeering, tax evasion, and money laundering that she won't savage the middle class, poor workers, and religious groups any more that her angry predecessor already has.
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What a grotesque character assassination, taking a thin thread of fact and weaving a web a mile wide. (Do we even use the term "character assassination" any more, or is it just another word for politics?)
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Another message from the NYT "I'm with Hillary" campaign. You forgot the tag line though, "I'm Hillary Clinton and I approve this message". Outrageous. And please, don't assume I favor Trump, because I do not. But I hate schlock journalism, and that's what the NYT has become, in disguise as a legitimate newspaper, as it used to be. Sad.
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The Times endorsed her. Why shouldn't they publish this piece? I loved it
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Not on the front page as news!! It belongs in the op-ed section or some other section other than the front page as a news article. It's incredible that the public is putting up with the news media abusing its power by overtly campaigning for political candidates using their news sections as political advertising. It's awful. Oh..and before you or others thing this is an attack against Hillary...it's not, it's an attack on the media, including Fox.
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Lovely story!
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Will the puffing Clinton press release whispered to just the right hack as front page new insights ever stop now?
Nah.
Nah.
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well this just proves that she can't be trusted. did she make her bed or not? HRC says yes, her friend, no. why would her friend lie? this is a very important issue and more revelations on her honesty and inegrity. Tee-hee....
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Lovely story! And can you believe Sara Ehrman is 97? Wow.
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Reading the comments to this article, it reminds of a comment about former Supreme Court Justice Sandra O'Connor: "She has a persuadable mind." It is a wonderful trait. And one that, evidently, not everybody has.
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Fascinating. Very nice woman, Sarah Ehrman.
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Mrs Ehrman should be the one running for president.
This article makes it sound as if Hillary Clinton sipped from the kool aid and got hooked.
It does not paint a flattering portrait of the likely next president.
This article makes it sound as if Hillary Clinton sipped from the kool aid and got hooked.
It does not paint a flattering portrait of the likely next president.
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I have to admit I didn't like Hillary Clinton, a few months ago. Probably just the personality the press was glad to define, and the daily rumors whispered by Republicans. I always respected her and her achievements, but really didn't know enough about her. During this campaign, we've discovered that she's a private person, and I suspect that her marriage has been a source of private disappointment, but she has pulled herself up by her bootstraps, and never relied on others to make her life. She has evolved, learned from her mistakes, and she's done it all by herself. Bill Clinton would never have won an election without her. She has weathered insults, lies, conspiracies, and every conceivable obstacle thrown down by her envious Republicans, but she has gotten back up to fight again. She is exactly what we need at this moment, and guess what? I really do like, and admire, her! She's the most qualified person ever to run for President. I can't wait to vote for her. Looking forward to great things, under her administration, and a very changed Congress.
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Brings me back to NYT's pro HRC anti Bernie coverage in the primaries. This is not news.
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Oh good. Another NYT fluff piece ignoring how dishonest and ruthless this person is. Isn't she cute. Isn't she lovely. How easily she throws people under the bus to serve her selflessness.
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yet you read it; like you didnt know what it was going to say. there are tons of anti-hillary articles all over the internet. make yourself feel better; go read those.
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It's a free country, and let's keep it a free country; greatnfi can read whatever he/she wants.
The New York TImes has published plenty of tough articles on Hillary (and Bill for that matter), their endorsements not wthstanding.
I don't doubt that Hillary Clinton is smart and hard working. What I don't get is this notion that even back then people saw greatness in her. Her graduation speech at Welsley was not inspirational. It was kind of a hedge to the effect that you can get ahead and make change by working in the system. Correct maybe but hardly worth the cover of Time. There must have been thousands of speeches given all over the country that year pretty much the same. Then she flunks the bar snd loses her job and runs off to Arkansas all for love. Nothing wrong with that but why were all these people swooning over her. Turns out she was traipsing after a guy who had pretty poor character which hasn't abated to this day, and she had limited political skills and poor instincts, herself. I graduated near the top of my class in law school the same year and practiced law for 40 years and retired. That's life. Our top graduate was every bit as impressive as Hillary Clinton. He went to work for Pillsbury, Madison & Sutro. Thousands of lawyers graduated the same year as Clinton, passed tougher bar exams and were far more promising than her, including women. Nobody picked them out as able to do anything under the sun. This is a nice little story but hardly a glimpse of greatness. I am going to vote for her because the alternative is a threat to the country. But the thought of her scheming, reprobate husband in the White House disgusts me, and I simply don't understand the Hillary legend.
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The best commentary here. Finally sensibility.
Unfortunately most supporters of Hillary Clinton project their own lives, decisions, emotions and reflections onto the woman they see on the screen or read about.
Even those close to Hillary Clinton appear to do the same. However, Mrs Clinton is no shrinking violet and she is neither warm nor fuzzy.
She is rather the opposite and is expert at making you think and feel that she is just like you.
Unfortunately most supporters of Hillary Clinton project their own lives, decisions, emotions and reflections onto the woman they see on the screen or read about.
Even those close to Hillary Clinton appear to do the same. However, Mrs Clinton is no shrinking violet and she is neither warm nor fuzzy.
She is rather the opposite and is expert at making you think and feel that she is just like you.
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The difference is the other people you mentioned did not devote themselves to public service, as she did. Didn't you notice that? And the point o the story is quite clearly that she was NOT seen as future presidential material! (How could she be, as a woman?)
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The point of the story is not that she wasn't recognized as future presidential material. It is an argument that she supposedly had that kind of potential and seemingly gave it up for love. The lady said "You could have any job you want." But in the end the story is a recognition that this old lady saw her alleged greatness but just didn't understand that Clinton new exactly what she was after and how to get it--by marrying Bill Clinton. It is still a puff piece about the legend of the lady of destiny, and it still fails to convince. You can call that a life devoted to public service if you want, but I call it a person of not much greater distinction than thousands of equally capable law school graduates who schemed her way to political success. Yes, I did notice that the people I mentioned did not seek a life similar to Hillary Clinton's, but that is no knock on them just as her story is not terribly inspirational. This old lady's story does not distinguish Clinton. It is just a story about a young woman who didn't have a job, couldn't practice law in DC because she failed the bar exam, got charmed by Bill Clinton and decided to try her luck with him in Arkansas. The endless promotion of her as a woman of destiny is pretty obvious and pretty pathetic. Did you not notice that her actual list of achievements is pretty short?
Many who have been up close with Trump have bitter words to describe him. One in particular, who co-wrote Trump's first book, describes him as the only human he has ever known who 'has no conscience'. After the insane amount of recent exposure to Mr. Trump I too feel I have experienced his malevolence up close. In stark contrast, Hillary Clinton, has many friends who vouch through stories and personal experiences of her humanity and commitment to service of others.
As a life-long liberal, I was unable to vote for Bill Clinton's re-election due to his personal behavior. I questioned why Hillary tolerated her husbands frequent infidelities, and cynically ascribed it to 'ambition', I was pleased and moved by this article and understand that it was and is love all along.
I want this woman to be my President and I am sick and tired of the ruthless misogyny constantly aimed at her. She will give us a public option, as a choice. She knows geography. She understands governing, for the good of others. Yes, she does care about the rest of us! Are we so ignorant to think that a man without 'a conscience' can govern for the good of anyone, but himself? Are we so gullible to believe some are not redeemable? It's Hillary or Armageddon, for sure.
The redeemable deserve a chance and all will benefit.
As a life-long liberal, I was unable to vote for Bill Clinton's re-election due to his personal behavior. I questioned why Hillary tolerated her husbands frequent infidelities, and cynically ascribed it to 'ambition', I was pleased and moved by this article and understand that it was and is love all along.
I want this woman to be my President and I am sick and tired of the ruthless misogyny constantly aimed at her. She will give us a public option, as a choice. She knows geography. She understands governing, for the good of others. Yes, she does care about the rest of us! Are we so ignorant to think that a man without 'a conscience' can govern for the good of anyone, but himself? Are we so gullible to believe some are not redeemable? It's Hillary or Armageddon, for sure.
The redeemable deserve a chance and all will benefit.
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Some of us actually voted for Bill's re-election because he was the best-qualified candidate.
We should leave the personal attacks out of the equation. And, we should learn to recognize when the Times is being manipulative.
Bill Clinton was indisputably the best-qualified candidate to be president, at that time. And, now, Hillary Clinton is clearly the less malignant candidate. Unfortunately, the fact that she is the most attractive candidate, today, because she is the least malignant is not, in itself, a measure of misogyny.
Does she care about all of us? I don't know. It's hard to conclude that from her time as NY Senator.
We should leave the personal attacks out of the equation. And, we should learn to recognize when the Times is being manipulative.
Bill Clinton was indisputably the best-qualified candidate to be president, at that time. And, now, Hillary Clinton is clearly the less malignant candidate. Unfortunately, the fact that she is the most attractive candidate, today, because she is the least malignant is not, in itself, a measure of misogyny.
Does she care about all of us? I don't know. It's hard to conclude that from her time as NY Senator.
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You have ve to go back 42 years to find anything she did that was good???? Tells a lot about her.
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no. You had to phrase it this way to make it look bad? Tells a lot about you.
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not even that far, since she was in fact kicked off the Watergate committee at the same time, which the author in the spirit of honest journalism writes as: "Ms Rodham, then a 26-year-old lawyer, had just finished working on the Watergate committee..."
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You've not been reading much about Hillary, have you? There have been lots of stories about what "she's done good."
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It's a sweet story, but I find myself cringing at the disdain felt by Mrs. Ehrman for the people of the states she and Hillary drove through. She doesn't even notice it, and nothing is a clearer example of the elitism charged by "those people."
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All the more revealing that Hillary was willing to make that move.
Why were there not stories like this one months ago? Hillary is an awesome person with an awesome resume and a series of life experiences that uniquely suit her for the presidency.
Also - interesting that the woman who lived her Christian faith by working through her marital issues with her husband because of her love for him is viewed unfavorably by some Christians, who view a chronic liar, serial philanderer and sex predator as their preferred candidate.
Also - interesting that the woman who lived her Christian faith by working through her marital issues with her husband because of her love for him is viewed unfavorably by some Christians, who view a chronic liar, serial philanderer and sex predator as their preferred candidate.
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Great story. My wife and I moved to Arkansas in 1974 from Baltimore (grew up in Memphis so were not surprised) and met the Clintons soon after. I had a better impression of Hillary than Bill, but never got to know either well. It's a real shame that the eastern press--particularly the NYTs--went after the Clintons when they showed up on the national scene and have not let up until recently. The continual sliming--usually unfounded--the Clintons took made the "crooked Hillary" meme plausible. I think some people at the Times finally began to realize that their reporting over the years had serious implications and have tried to clean up their act. Too late. The damage has been done. I can't think of another public figure where the public image is further from reality than Hillary Clinton. The brie, by the way, appeared soon after the Clintons, and the baguettes at Boulevard Bread in Little Rock are as good as anything on the east coast.
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This is such a warm writing of history. The relationship of two women on a trip combined with true political savvy and a road map. Great writing, the truth of their relationship is easily felt; the mature woman and the novitiate.
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The novitiate didn't listen to the mature woman - but they both bought great looking china!
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Interesting article, but the regional prejudice is a bit depressing. There is actually life away from the East and West Coasts.
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True. I'm so excited to read that Clinton has jumped out to a large lead in my home state of Michigan. Go Blue! It applies to politics, as much as the Wolverines.
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A puff piece? Today? Unbelievable. Check that: predictable.
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We know y'all are in the tank for her, but "the candidate the public seldom sees." Really, with CBS, CNN , NBC, ABC, flogging to beat the band?? Puhleeze!!
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I don't know Hillary or Bill personally but have friends who do. This story conveys a truth about her relationship to him that I have rarely seen in print, but which is what they tell me. Yes, as another commentator said, he has embarrassed her and betrayed her. But she loves him. And, as another said, she has all these old friends who love her. . .something Trump does not. Both of these points say a great deal about our next president.
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"... he has embarrassed her and betrayed her. But she loves him."
Hmm --
Taken out of context - a person could reasonably think that statement might describe one of Donald Trump's wives or daughters -
Doesn't sound like a good recommendation for the "Feminist Ideal" that many of Ms. Clinton's supporters point to as being one of the reasons they gush all over her with admiration...
Hmm --
Taken out of context - a person could reasonably think that statement might describe one of Donald Trump's wives or daughters -
Doesn't sound like a good recommendation for the "Feminist Ideal" that many of Ms. Clinton's supporters point to as being one of the reasons they gush all over her with admiration...
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For any of us, retaining friendships over decades speaks volumes as to our characters. I know HRC is, according to the president, "wicked" smart. I also believe her to be a person of strong character, and that combination is enough for me. I'm with her!
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It is very interesting and revealing that Mrs. Erhman described Hillary as a 'Leviathan'. (video time: 5:55) Please look at meaning of the word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan
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Hillary's earned her success. We're all lucky she chose public service — even the ones who don't believe that.
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Yes, well she has followed the political road all her life. A good biography is A Woman in Charge, by Carl Bernstein that gives a very objective view of the Clinton road to the White House. Be that as it may though, Hillary has aligned herself with the moneyed elites much like Obama did, and now owes some pretty heavy dues. Regardless of her past motives and supporters, things have changed in the Clinton camp. I don't expect progressive leadership from the Democratic Party from now on.
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I just love Hillary. Over and over again we hear from long term friends who are so devoted to Hillary. That alone says a lot about her character and devotion. I can't wait to call her my President. Thank you for the story.
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Now only if the other candidate had a similar (or even a fraction of a) story that could be so shared.
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Not this again! We just went through this propaganda piece for the primary - also with ZERO mention of Hillary's investigative work on behalf of Nixon AGAINST Kennedy on the south side of Chicago (which was probably an even greater road trip for someone from Park Ridge!) Her later work as a Goldwater Girl was (and still is) also carefully avoided.
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Don't you mean EARLIER work as a Goldwater girl? She was in high school for pete's sake. She hadn't had her Wellesley epiphany yet. If you're going to write such comments, at least get your facts straight.
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uuhh--if you are referring to the 1960 election, HIllary was 13 at the time.
Who hasn't made a big life decision based on love- and continues to do so?
If only all our elected officials could show this side of themselves we would have trust in our leaders and our government.
If only all our elected officials could show this side of themselves we would have trust in our leaders and our government.
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I'm just a couple years older than Hillary. Like her, I too fell in love. Head over heels. With a handsome, intellectual, idealistic guy. I was more practical than he. Still am. If an older woman had gotten ahold of me then, she would have been smart to tell me to at least wait. I'd do the same for myself now.
But youth and love are not amenable to reason. Love ... who can argue with it? Well, you can argue. But you won't win.
I personally think Bill would never have gotten where he got to without Hillary. Nor would my husband have made it to where he got to without me.
It's been a great love affair on our end. Minus the infidelity. (Thank God!). But brains and love - on both ends - are very powerful magnets. And when a good woman meets the man of her intellectual prowess, especially where one's own ideals are mirrored, that woman can - eventually - "make" her man. Indeed, that man, without such a woman, probably wouldn't make it.
What a great article!
Vote for Hillary! Who merits the presidency - in spades - on her own!
I can so empathize with her. In so many ways. You go, girl!
But youth and love are not amenable to reason. Love ... who can argue with it? Well, you can argue. But you won't win.
I personally think Bill would never have gotten where he got to without Hillary. Nor would my husband have made it to where he got to without me.
It's been a great love affair on our end. Minus the infidelity. (Thank God!). But brains and love - on both ends - are very powerful magnets. And when a good woman meets the man of her intellectual prowess, especially where one's own ideals are mirrored, that woman can - eventually - "make" her man. Indeed, that man, without such a woman, probably wouldn't make it.
What a great article!
Vote for Hillary! Who merits the presidency - in spades - on her own!
I can so empathize with her. In so many ways. You go, girl!
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Thank you for this beautiful story. I'm still struck by how little coverage of Clinton features her in presidential, or even human, light. Some coverage of her as a presidential woman and not as object of some target of witch-hunt-du-jour or lurid conspiracy theory, is long overdue.
Without this kind of coverage, people have not been able to envision her as president. Her long history of public service has not prevented her from that history being combed for every possible negative. Why has there been so little coverage of her long history as a person that is constructive?
Without this kind of coverage, people have not been able to envision her as president. Her long history of public service has not prevented her from that history being combed for every possible negative. Why has there been so little coverage of her long history as a person that is constructive?
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Thanks to Ross Perot. If Ross Perot did not run in 1992 Presidential election, Nobody will remember now Bill & Hillary Clinton, the governor fr
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Look at the recent news on this. Perot split the ticket. Even the Bushes campaign manager disagrees with your statement.
FiveThirtyeight & ESPN films colaborated to do a cool piece on this. I really used to believe that he was a spoiler, but the data ain't there.
FiveThirtyeight & ESPN films colaborated to do a cool piece on this. I really used to believe that he was a spoiler, but the data ain't there.
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Big deal, if Ralph Nader hadn't run the entire Middle East wouldn't look like a bad case of dysentery.
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That Hillary & Bill pic (Fayetteville, 1975) reminds me of Katie and Hubble from The Way We were.
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Hillary should have stayed back in D.C.!
In that old picture, Hillary was a pretty hot girl while Bill looked effeminate.
I think with her smarts and drive, Hillary could have been an presidential candidate at an earlier time without having to suffer through all years of her husband's philandering!
In that old picture, Hillary was a pretty hot girl while Bill looked effeminate.
I think with her smarts and drive, Hillary could have been an presidential candidate at an earlier time without having to suffer through all years of her husband's philandering!
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Quite an insight into Mrs Clinton's life.
When you are young and smart and you have your whole life in front of you, you have to take chances, you have to live your dreams.
So what if things had not worked out the way you hoped?
Well, that is why you take those risks when you are young so that you can learn from those experiences and go on to the next endeavor.
Good girl Hillary, you did the right thing. Now on to becoming the first woman president of the USA.
When you are young and smart and you have your whole life in front of you, you have to take chances, you have to live your dreams.
So what if things had not worked out the way you hoped?
Well, that is why you take those risks when you are young so that you can learn from those experiences and go on to the next endeavor.
Good girl Hillary, you did the right thing. Now on to becoming the first woman president of the USA.
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Good girl Hillary? By supporting the killing of unborn babies till the full month term, lying and lying one after the other, a murder.... You called her a good girl? People like you are so naive and so stupid! Find yourself a hold and hide in there. Don't come out until your "good girl Hillary" is in jail. Then you can go visit your "good girl Hillary"! Ok
I was afraid to click on the comments to this article, because all I could think of were the Gang of Hillary Haters and how this very human and lovely piece would be shredded by those cynical, bitter folks.
My great thanks to those commenters who can still perceive hope, optimism, and love in this world, and who understand their quiet power. It's a struggle not to get dragged into the morass of hatred that emanates from the others. Their vitriol is what makes me despair for the mental health of the country we all live in and must share.
My great thanks to those commenters who can still perceive hope, optimism, and love in this world, and who understand their quiet power. It's a struggle not to get dragged into the morass of hatred that emanates from the others. Their vitriol is what makes me despair for the mental health of the country we all live in and must share.
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It is not hatred. There are facts that should be known about the candidates after all, Trump has received his share. What we have had this election is a lot of idolatrous ranting on both sides and very little discussion about policy and the Clinton history in the White House. Bill Clinton signed off on some pretty awful legislation that arguably caused the financial meltdown--Glass-Steagall; threw a lot of poor people off welfare--the Welfare Reform Act, NAFTA, job losses and the awful three strikes crime bill. So do we want them in power again?
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hi Margaret, comment sections are an imperfect vehicle for communication, and I think we've crossed before. But I thought I'd try one more time to bridge the gap, having moved from Bernie to Hillary and thought a lot about what I call the "purity monster." (A lot of this formed as I try to get along with our wonderful observant Muslim aide whose loving care of my mother and annoying religious requirements clash with my tolerant atheism.)
First, we Democrats need to vote in midterms. Bill had to work with the same kind of opposition Obama has encountered. Blaming Democrats for Republican obstruction is an old story. Yes, perhaps he did some things he shouldn't'a. I don't know, but I respect the complexity of trying to get things done.
And this from 3 October New Yorker:
"The zealous conviction of utopians that the present must be erased, rather than built upon, fuels their denunciations of pragmatic incrementalism. It leads them to belittle the energies of reformism, and to obscure the truth that change and reform do occur, even if in a halting and often unfathomable manner. .... Aiming not at perfection but at improvement, accepting the vagaries of human nature as a premise that policy must accommodate, rather than wish away, meliorism forces a longer, more calibrated approach. It is not a path for the impatient, but it has the verdict of history on its side. The utopian has a better story to tell; the meliorist leaves us with a better world."
First, we Democrats need to vote in midterms. Bill had to work with the same kind of opposition Obama has encountered. Blaming Democrats for Republican obstruction is an old story. Yes, perhaps he did some things he shouldn't'a. I don't know, but I respect the complexity of trying to get things done.
And this from 3 October New Yorker:
"The zealous conviction of utopians that the present must be erased, rather than built upon, fuels their denunciations of pragmatic incrementalism. It leads them to belittle the energies of reformism, and to obscure the truth that change and reform do occur, even if in a halting and often unfathomable manner. .... Aiming not at perfection but at improvement, accepting the vagaries of human nature as a premise that policy must accommodate, rather than wish away, meliorism forces a longer, more calibrated approach. It is not a path for the impatient, but it has the verdict of history on its side. The utopian has a better story to tell; the meliorist leaves us with a better world."
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I agree that NAFTA and the Welfare Reform Act weren't the best pieces of legislation. Recall, though: the country was dominated by a different mood then, as well as by an older generation of people whose values differed from those cherished by younger people. We had been subjected to many years of Reaganomics. We had been bombarded with messages exhorting us "to pull yourself up with your own bootstraps." There was a lot of talk about "law and order" and the need for harsh punishment of criminals. The War on Drugs was in full gear, and the country was obssesed with "tough love" and "getting tough on crime." Reagan spent his time telling us about non-existant "welfare queens in Cadillacs," and many people, most especially the older ones in power, wanted to pass these types of bills. The concept that "greed is good" was also embraced by business. Universitites were churning out MBAs who promoted trickle-down economics and shareholder value. The Clintons tried to get health care reform enacted and were immediately shot down by Congress. Bill Clinton was severely hemmed in by a Congress that pushed for NAFTA, which had been initiated by the former president. Clinton wound up signing it after a lot of push and pull. In short, Clinton tried to get some progressive legislation passed, but was frequently stopped short by the necessity of compromising with very recalcitrant Republicans who were unwilling to undo much of what they had spent many years building under Reagan and Bush I.
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Stronger together. Indeed!
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Now I understand my problem . . . I never had a Buick.
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I was born many moons ago, in Kingsport, Tennessee. My father was from Poor Valley between Hiltons and Gate City, Virginia. Because there were no jobs there after World War II, and because my mother was from Boston (they met while he was in the Navy), they moved to Boston so that he could get a job. Every year, we went to visit my relatives in Poor Valley for two weeks. This article perfectly describes that drive down Route 81 (even before Route 81 existed, we drove down Route 11 to get there), and some of the sights I saw as a young child. It was in Bristol, VA/TN where I saw my first water fountain labeled "Coloreds Only." I was 16 years old before my grandmother had indoor plumbing. I would describe my experiences to my friends in Boston, and they thought I was crazy. When I was older and went to spend times with my relatives, I realized what the political thought was among "my people." I saw the way women were treated, and I didn't like it. Not one bit. I could no sooner live there or any part of the south then or now, for love or money. I would rather shovel snow until the day I die than live among my father's people, who still think that "The War of Northen Aggression" is being fought today. Hillary must have been--and still be--in love with this guy. The old cliche is that hindsight is 20/20, but I would have been telling Hillary the same thing that Mrs. Ehrman was saying in that old Buick.
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I wonder what would have become of Bill Clinton, had he not met the "intelligent, unstylish, hard-working" Hillary Rodham. Apart from being in love with him, she had no doubt seen qualities in him that they - together - could conquer the world one day. Their lives would have taken a different turn, had their paths not crossed, and they seemed to complement each other on their long paths to the highest office.
I enjoy reading Sarah Ehrman's intimate narrative of the young Hillary Rodham as her tenant, and it makes me feel less bad, that she was "sloppy". I'm sloppy too.
I enjoy reading Sarah Ehrman's intimate narrative of the young Hillary Rodham as her tenant, and it makes me feel less bad, that she was "sloppy". I'm sloppy too.
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Nothing will change Republican hater of Hillary. Just remember, hate destroys you , not the person you hate. Here is a love that has stood the test of time and you find nothing valuable in it. Look at your own life in the mirror
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So if you don't like her character or deceptiveness you hate her? I'd say lies distroy you. And she certainly has lied.
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The citizen demanding that the law be equally applicable to the rich & powerful is not wrong to ask for this woman to have to follow the laws of the country or else face the legal consequences for doing otherwise.
Not only has she soiled every one she has co-opted in her questionable activities, but nine-tenths of the news media has been largely reduced to so many cheerleaders waving pom-poms.
Not only has she soiled every one she has co-opted in her questionable activities, but nine-tenths of the news media has been largely reduced to so many cheerleaders waving pom-poms.
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She has followed the laws of this country.
Absolute puff piece that feels like a free political advertisement just a week and a half from the election. It belongs in the paper between the election and inauguration. I understand that her election feels certain, but let's at least wait for the votes to be cast and counted. Really poor timing, NYTimes. This article provides legitimate fuel to the argument that you are biased.
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The NYT has made abundant clear (in an editorial, nothing less) that it is biased, that it supports Hillary Clinton for president and wants to see Mr. Trump very, very far away from the WH. So, it is in full gear to make Mrs. Clinton case. And, it is a very powerful testimony that the lady is not the power-hungry automaton that so many of her enemies would like the electorate to believe. In fact, the timing of the piece is superb. As an campaign ad it is a beautiful thing. I believe THAT is exactly what bothers you: the Gray Lady is a pro.
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You didn't say which part was false.
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I'm sure the NY Times held this gauzy promotional piece until the best time to affect the election results, just as with all the October personal destruction articles about The Enemy Other.
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been there, done that. she was lucky in that her choice of man was a real winner, that she kept to the family line, to improve his success.
we all live and learn.
If i had been married to Hilary in those days perhaps she could have made something of me as well.
Not like obama, who is terrific despite his woman, he is terrific on his own. And his choice of woman helped him, instead of hurting him, like the stone cold stupid Mrs. Reagan or the frigid mrs nixon...
we all live and learn.
If i had been married to Hilary in those days perhaps she could have made something of me as well.
Not like obama, who is terrific despite his woman, he is terrific on his own. And his choice of woman helped him, instead of hurting him, like the stone cold stupid Mrs. Reagan or the frigid mrs nixon...
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I doubt Mr. Reagan had any doubts about the positive impact to his life of Mrs. Reagan.
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I know you didn't write this to make us laugh, but it made me laugh. The stone cold stupid Mrs. Reagan.....right there you win the day.
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Just awake and coffee in hand, I "opened" my times and thought, I'll click on that. I immediately liked this person, Sara Ehrman. I was also magnetically drawn to her road trip tale. It was an insight to be sure, into Secretary Clinton, but it was also a superb piece of visual storytelling. The small details around Ms. Ehrman, and her views of D.C., said so much about who this was we were listening to- almost more than her background set-up early in the piece. All the more credence to this testimonial about a young lawyer who was certain about and determined to make her future. Thank you for another sensitively crafted NYTimes Doc. Bravo.
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Most endearing. It's always good to be reminded that "public figures" started out as just people. It helps in SEEing them as people. Although the politics of the two are mostly different (similar, however, in their concern for the downtrodden), this article brought to mind the road trip movie, "Motorcycle Diaries," about a young Che Guevara traveling through Latin America.
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Max, read up on Che. Young Che w/motorcycle was not anything like Castro's Che, who remains accused of and hated for sending hundreds of prisoners to their deaths. I don't think the stories compare.
Those who are reading this article and appreciate it, I would urge you to watch PBS Frontline about Hillary and Trump - The Choice 2016.
Once you see it, you will vote for her in spite of all negative publicity.
Once you see it, you will vote for her in spite of all negative publicity.
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Was just going to recommend this too. Better than the other "early Hillary" piece linked below this article, and some interesting insights into Trump as well. I'm a little younger than Hillary, but if I could at my age now have given the young Hillary advice, it would have been the same as Mrs. Ehrman's. I think she could have made it on her own. But then we wouldn't have Chelsea, who I am liking more and more each day.
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Awww. Nice planted story. So nostalgic. Yes, let's forget Corrupt Hillary and go back to her in the "beat-up '68 Buick" for the best optix. Maybe you should do a story of your own (sans HRC PR machine) and have her gazing out the window of her brand new Rolls Royce? They have certainly made millions off The Presidency. Thanks, NYT for once again delivering a bi-partisan story. LOL.
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And how much did Donald Trump make scamming gullible people with Trump University? Guess we'll find out when he goes to trial on November 28.
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That's not the point! The issue here is that the NYT runs a front page puff piece days before the election in a blatant attempt to soften Hillary's image in order to garner votes. It's outrageous for a newspaper to run this as news, especially right before an election. Shameless and totally unprofessional, and actually corrupt.
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Can you name anybody else who went bankrupt six times? Everytime there is a bankruptcy, people lose their hard earned savings and their just wages. Once Trump saw the money he could make by going to bankruptcy court, he and his team of lawyers planned and executed five more. It became a tool for him to use without any regard to its consequences on the people who trusted him and his name.
The word corrupt does not describe Trump. You need something lot stronger to describe Trump.
The word corrupt does not describe Trump. You need something lot stronger to describe Trump.
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Sorry it was in 1996 not 1993
The Hillary I knew in Dallas, Texas, was dapper, nicely dressed most of the time, and a fine, decent Church Lady. Hillary wore long white cotton gloves, hat & veil to Church, and always carried her personalized from her father study worn white calfskin Bible. She would give me dirty looks for working at the McGovern HQ in Dallas instead of going to services, but she just goo-goo eyed boyfriend Bill who was working right there in his office to my front.
It probably took some doing for God to get her flunked on that DC bar exam, I imagine, but her going to his side was inevitable. Mrs. Ehrman was right, though. Bill Clinton would have wound up just some country lawyer after failing to win the Lt. Governor's race had Hillary Rodham not come back to him. His future would have been bleak indeed without Hillary. He needn't have worried, though. Almighty God is behind this enterprise, and America is thankful to God for it.
It probably took some doing for God to get her flunked on that DC bar exam, I imagine, but her going to his side was inevitable. Mrs. Ehrman was right, though. Bill Clinton would have wound up just some country lawyer after failing to win the Lt. Governor's race had Hillary Rodham not come back to him. His future would have been bleak indeed without Hillary. He needn't have worried, though. Almighty God is behind this enterprise, and America is thankful to God for it.
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A great pair of two beautiful and awesome ladies. Hard to forget this story once you read it.
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This gives me the chills! Our destiny awaits us. Trump's obliviousness couldn't have been more helpful in clearing the path for Hillary and the historic election of our first woman president and creating the Clinton dynasty, starting with Bill standing on a rock in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
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Hmm. Wonder if Bill and Hillary took any of the motel furnishings back with them, too.
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It is a nice way to fill space in this newspaper. Unfortunately people change in 40 years of public life. Hillary is merely an opportunist and will do what is in her best interests. The public be damned. Anything that benefits her and her alone is how she operates. The story reminds me of the 1950's television show "Spin and Marty."
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Do you really believe that life Is that simple? Are you? Do you look back at your own life and judge it only in the most pejorative terms possible? Poor you! Oh well. Haters gotta hate. There's plenty of spin going on here, and there you go again!
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This is a wonderful story, showing that Hillary was just like so many young women - deciding between your potential/talent and love. It was also nice to see that people cared for Hillary and saw her potential/talent - wanting a good life for her. Finally, we see how Hillary took a risk and made it work. Hillary is a true American woman - filled with ambition, smarts, and taking a risk on love.
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YP,
Let us not forget to add: Hillary has obstructed justice repeatedly, in ways that
would have landed the rest of us in the Unemployment line and in jail.
That she is a Faux Feminists - as she set about to destroy the lives of anyone
who Bill slept with and then publicly accused Bill. And that she only cares about
power...I suppose the MacBeth's may well have been in love but that does not
excuse their actions - we are, quite sadly, about to elect a Lady MacBeth to
the Presidency of what was once a great country.
Let us not forget to add: Hillary has obstructed justice repeatedly, in ways that
would have landed the rest of us in the Unemployment line and in jail.
That she is a Faux Feminists - as she set about to destroy the lives of anyone
who Bill slept with and then publicly accused Bill. And that she only cares about
power...I suppose the MacBeth's may well have been in love but that does not
excuse their actions - we are, quite sadly, about to elect a Lady MacBeth to
the Presidency of what was once a great country.
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From a relatively bucolic upbringing to a workaholic milieu, Hillary had a byzantine carrier that spanned nearly 30 years. What started as a sterling performance, defending children's causes. later festered into a highly disputatious deals she had made with quite a galaxy of her cohorts. Those acts were scrutinized, possibly, from her Arkansas days, by the political pundits, and when she jumped into the political boxing ring, her past came home to roost.
Currently her email entanglements, mired in a swamp of criticism, have been involving her associates trading barbs, sometimes culminating in the usage of expletives by one her advisers, Neera Tandon. That's absolutely abysmal. As byzantine as her campaign has been, GOP considers her as a low hanging fruit to assail her character.
And then sauntered in Trump, after crushing his GOP opponents in the primaries. This real estate baron has been bamboozling the Dems. and the GOP alike, and is now hoodwinking his followers into believing that he is the true savior of this country. What a bunch of hooey!
Fully cognizant of Hillary's demerits, if the voters, particularly women, seek solace in Trump's magniloquence and his litany of lies, it can be a perfect and a potential recipe for an apocalypse. This guy seems to brainwash those who fall prey to his largely heuristic promises, a lot of which may or may not be beneficial. And that's the way a cookie can crumble.
Currently her email entanglements, mired in a swamp of criticism, have been involving her associates trading barbs, sometimes culminating in the usage of expletives by one her advisers, Neera Tandon. That's absolutely abysmal. As byzantine as her campaign has been, GOP considers her as a low hanging fruit to assail her character.
And then sauntered in Trump, after crushing his GOP opponents in the primaries. This real estate baron has been bamboozling the Dems. and the GOP alike, and is now hoodwinking his followers into believing that he is the true savior of this country. What a bunch of hooey!
Fully cognizant of Hillary's demerits, if the voters, particularly women, seek solace in Trump's magniloquence and his litany of lies, it can be a perfect and a potential recipe for an apocalypse. This guy seems to brainwash those who fall prey to his largely heuristic promises, a lot of which may or may not be beneficial. And that's the way a cookie can crumble.
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Larry, put down the thesaurus and step away from the computer.
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Larry, please listen to Visitor. You are in safe hands. It'll be fine.
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I think young Hilary is long dead and buried and what we have in front of us is a hollow shell, a zombie under the sway of the 0.1 percent and their unholy neoliberal creed.
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I would be willing to bet that very few, if any, of the .01% are liberal or neoliberal (whatever that is).
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Most people really don't change that much from their young adult selves. Their circumstances change, but not their insides. Anyway, that's true of most people I know.
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Ken and Kally,
If you look at the top quintile or top ten percent of income earners they tend to be about 40 percent Dem and 60 percent Republican. It is possible, probably even likely, that liberals and neo-libs are even fewer amongst the 0.1 percent. So Ken you have a point, but there are certainly more than a few, they have gazillions in dollars and Hillary is their woman. Jill Stein sure isn't and that is no coincidence. Finally, tons of social science research has shown that people often do change as their circumstances change. I've witnessed quite a few people raised in working class, union families become very politically conservative after they went to college and left as a physician, an executive or an engineer.
If you look at the top quintile or top ten percent of income earners they tend to be about 40 percent Dem and 60 percent Republican. It is possible, probably even likely, that liberals and neo-libs are even fewer amongst the 0.1 percent. So Ken you have a point, but there are certainly more than a few, they have gazillions in dollars and Hillary is their woman. Jill Stein sure isn't and that is no coincidence. Finally, tons of social science research has shown that people often do change as their circumstances change. I've witnessed quite a few people raised in working class, union families become very politically conservative after they went to college and left as a physician, an executive or an engineer.
That is "our" Hillary! We have known her for 40 some years and Bill for 50 plus. She sets a goal. Gets going and does not look back. Then she hits it. Sets another goal and off she goes!
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Is Sara Ehrman 97?! What a rich mind, life! May we all be so lucky.
What a timeless image - a tenacious young woman in love driven by an equally strong woman with wisdom. My favorite parts of this touching story are the pottery, the pie, the bike - those tangible items that grounded a metaphorical road trip into a hopeful future. Who could have imagined where that trip would lead, as it ended then, in the middle of drunken football fans with painted faces? The story of the road trip alone would make a beautiful film.
And a little snark - all experienced and remembered without a smart phone in sight.
What a timeless image - a tenacious young woman in love driven by an equally strong woman with wisdom. My favorite parts of this touching story are the pottery, the pie, the bike - those tangible items that grounded a metaphorical road trip into a hopeful future. Who could have imagined where that trip would lead, as it ended then, in the middle of drunken football fans with painted faces? The story of the road trip alone would make a beautiful film.
And a little snark - all experienced and remembered without a smart phone in sight.
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My favorite part is how she said she kept asking Hillary to rethink it, telling her, every 25-30 miles, that this was a mistake, but that she knew Hillary wasn't even listening to her! She had to be herself and Hillary was going to be herself, too, and this didn't make any difference to their relationship. What a great woman, supporting another great woman!
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Love and agree with your snark. GO HILLARY!
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Lovely.
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Could you imagine how hellish that road trip must've been? Having to hear, "Hillary, you're throwing your life away, he won't find a job," from someone you've lived with and respect every thirty miles, in August, in the sweltering South, maybe even without A/C.
She remembers her as someone who didn't make her bed and had a lot of 'junk' to move... The Road Trip the Change Hillary Clinton, yea, this two day ordeal would change anyone.
And how can you deny yourself a rack of smoked ribs?!
This article more than any is a testament to Clinton's resolve and is one I'm sure many young people will react to. Let's complete this sappy "Making of a Candidate" series with a tape of one of young Trump's multi-hour flights in which his father lectures him endlessly on the power of wealth, Trump rolls his eyes and stares daggers at the lush crop-green squares of flyover country.
She remembers her as someone who didn't make her bed and had a lot of 'junk' to move... The Road Trip the Change Hillary Clinton, yea, this two day ordeal would change anyone.
And how can you deny yourself a rack of smoked ribs?!
This article more than any is a testament to Clinton's resolve and is one I'm sure many young people will react to. Let's complete this sappy "Making of a Candidate" series with a tape of one of young Trump's multi-hour flights in which his father lectures him endlessly on the power of wealth, Trump rolls his eyes and stares daggers at the lush crop-green squares of flyover country.
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Kevin, have you looked into becoming a writer yourself if you are not one already? Your comment is priceless, loved reading it! More comments please. Wish we had your Twitter info, to follow you.
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Thank you, Todd, I'm flattered. I do write weekly as a volunteer columnist at a newspaper in north central West Virginia, the current epicenter for Marcellus shale fracking. Though I don't post on Twitter I will absolutely continue to comment on the NYT as long as I can maintain my subscription.
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A deep breath, much needed, much appreciated. Thanks for this, Amy.
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What an amazing story!
We all need a Mrs. Ehrman in our lives!
She may have been wrong about Hillary Clinton's move/joining Bill decision, but the interest she took, the effort she made, the good heartedness of her, to do everything she could to ensure the best choices and outcomes for Ms. Clinton, is, as Trump might say, "a really beautiful thing. The greatest. Amazing."
May these two remarkable women have the chance to see one of them as President of the United States.
We all need a Mrs. Ehrman in our lives!
She may have been wrong about Hillary Clinton's move/joining Bill decision, but the interest she took, the effort she made, the good heartedness of her, to do everything she could to ensure the best choices and outcomes for Ms. Clinton, is, as Trump might say, "a really beautiful thing. The greatest. Amazing."
May these two remarkable women have the chance to see one of them as President of the United States.
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This trip to bountiful was not inspiring! Arkansas remembers the Clintons too well and they are not buying it again! The Clinton's home state is gagging on the prospects of a repeat performance! Sorry but Wikileaks has already revealed HRC's her distaste for ordinary people and other food groups!
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What about your own distaste for ordinary people, as in women and Democrats? Do you really believe you speak for an entire state? Talk about arrogance!
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Thank you for that story. I took a road trip 24 years ago quit my job and moved to North Carolina. did not know anyone or have a job lined up. The only thing I had going at the time was I was 6 years clean and sober. Now at 30 years sober I have 9 grandchildren voted for first black president and am proud to say I will be voting for the first woman president. You go girl!
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Thanks, Wade. It is stories like yours that give meaning to the words hope and redemption. Your 9 grandchildren are lucky to have you in their life (and you, them). Thanks for staying sober for 30 years. That was a gift to everyone in your life who cared about you. And for voting for Obama. Let's hope for the best in this election, eh? That those of us who care, who strive for the best, get the president we deserve. I'm with her.
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Never a mention about the heartbreak and embarrassment that man brought her later. Politically, this is a puff piece. But politics aside, as an educator I like this story. It's about the unexpected directions we take in life, and about taking leaps of faith even though we don't know where we'll end up. My students are sometimes cautious to take the leaps, but many of them pay off (and they have in my life).
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Again, as recommended by another commenter, watch the PBS Frontline piece:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/investigation/election-2016/
It goes into the result of that heartbreak. It's the part that had the most impact on me. This promising, rising star left her ambition behind for her man and then he betrayed her. And she said, un uh, rolled up her sleeves and went about reversing that.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/investigation/election-2016/
It goes into the result of that heartbreak. It's the part that had the most impact on me. This promising, rising star left her ambition behind for her man and then he betrayed her. And she said, un uh, rolled up her sleeves and went about reversing that.
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This piece is a spectacular story and has the ring of truth inside.
Life is complicated, isn't it?
Says here Hillary Rodham made a good choice.
Life is complicated, isn't it?
Says here Hillary Rodham made a good choice.
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This story cheered me up. It's notable that Hillary Clinton has maintained lifelong friendships and has a lot of support and a positive backstory. Does Donald Trump have any old friends? He seems to collect superficial 'trophy' friends based on celebrity, but unlike HRC, I don't read about any college buddies or long-time work friends who will stand up for him.
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Sarah -- You sound and look wonderful. I'd like to know more about you.
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Say what you will about the Clintons, this story is genuine. How it got on the NYT? I don't really care. Just glad you put it here. Our next president is a person of exceptional experience and ambition. She and Bill are the true Washington power couple. Let us not cut her (or him) down and brag about how much we know about her (or his) faults. Let us help her succeed. Heaven knows she is going to need our help.
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What a sweet story, thank you. Hillary is such a good person, devoted, kind and brave. I will be exciting to see what she can do for our country, as president.
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Just love her.
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What a great piece of journalism, thanks.
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A "feel good" HRC story, while coverage of the Brand "Bill Clinton Inc." memo is written as a description of Chelsea as the devoted daughter , frustrated by people using dad's name to promote business, hopefully may strike some as a bit puzzling.
The "Clinton Inc." story goes to the heart of many issues that have dogged HRC in this campaign. These include the sometimes non existing line between the Clintons and the Foundation, public service for private profit, pay to play, the sense that rules apply to other people and HRC's private serveras a tool to shield this "circle of enrichment".
This memo would be devastating to any other except one running against the possibly least qualified person ever to run for president.
It's unfortunate that WikiLeaks is doing the job that the MSM refuses to do.
The "Clinton Inc." story goes to the heart of many issues that have dogged HRC in this campaign. These include the sometimes non existing line between the Clintons and the Foundation, public service for private profit, pay to play, the sense that rules apply to other people and HRC's private serveras a tool to shield this "circle of enrichment".
This memo would be devastating to any other except one running against the possibly least qualified person ever to run for president.
It's unfortunate that WikiLeaks is doing the job that the MSM refuses to do.
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I think the line between public and private endeavors of those successful in politics has been blurred by many, including the Bush family. The Clintons had to have not just brains, but extreme ambition to achieve this level of success starting from their powerless roots. And egos even bigger than the those of average politicians, able to withstand years of attacks and keep ticking. They know that wealth is the usual prerequisite for access to power, as only former outsiders can know, and I think this has also driven their maximizing of income opportunities.
The ambition extended to creating a foundation the equal of the best, with an impact on world problems, which would also reflect well on the Clintons. Not a bad goal, but it plays off their close proximity to power while hitting up potential donors - contacts other foundations and NGOS must dream of. It looks as if there have been glitches, as in Haiti, but that the Foundation has done good work.and so far, with no evidence of illegal activities or specific quid pro quo deals, but the appearance of providing access to those you are favorably inclined towards, if because of their generosity to your cause, troubles me. But I think it happens, period; the Clintons simply are a Level 5 Hurricane in motion, while most others never get above a strong gale .
The story about Chelsea IS puzzling. Period. Does she had a very public position, as advocate, without much power?
The ambition extended to creating a foundation the equal of the best, with an impact on world problems, which would also reflect well on the Clintons. Not a bad goal, but it plays off their close proximity to power while hitting up potential donors - contacts other foundations and NGOS must dream of. It looks as if there have been glitches, as in Haiti, but that the Foundation has done good work.and so far, with no evidence of illegal activities or specific quid pro quo deals, but the appearance of providing access to those you are favorably inclined towards, if because of their generosity to your cause, troubles me. But I think it happens, period; the Clintons simply are a Level 5 Hurricane in motion, while most others never get above a strong gale .
The story about Chelsea IS puzzling. Period. Does she had a very public position, as advocate, without much power?
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If Bill Clinton had not become governor and then president, Hillary would probably have spent her life working in obscurity at a Little Rock law firm.
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No, Hillary would have always had a great career of her own.
I love stories like this. What a wonderful glimpse of a young Hillary on the cusp of a momentous life.
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Hillary detractors cannot help themselves. Even this simple, hardly controversial, account of young Hillary is gist for snarky comments. Why do they think it is so important to put her down? Something about Hillary fires up some vicious side of their brain that cannot let the smallest humanizing detail about Hillary go unanswered. They will need a large supply of anti-acid to survive the next eight years.
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@serban,
They need nothing more to fire up that side of their brains than the fact that she is female.
They need nothing more to fire up that side of their brains than the fact that she is female.
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It was a beautiful story. Perhaps one reason why Trump isn't five or six points up is that he hasn't someone to write such a story of him.
Aaron Burr would commiserate that while Hamilton had a son who defended his father in print, Burr never sired a son to do the same for him.
Aaron Burr would commiserate that while Hamilton had a son who defended his father in print, Burr never sired a son to do the same for him.
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The wonders of wonderland never cease!
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From a relatively bucolic upbringing to a workaholic milieu, Hillary had a byzantine carrier that spanned nearly 30 years. What started as a sterling performance, defending children's causes. later festered into a highly disputatious deals she had made with quite a galaxy of her cohorts. Those acts were scrutinized, possibly, from her Arkansas days, by the political pundits, and when she jumped into the political boxing ring, her past came home to roost.
Currently her email entanglements, mired in a swamp of criticism, have been involving her associates trading barbs, sometimes culminating in the usage of expletives by one her advisers, Neera Tandon. That's absolutely abysmal. As byzantine as her campaign has been, GOP considers her as a low hanging fruit to assail her character.
And then sauntered in Trump, after crushing his GOP opponents in the primaries. This real estate baron has been bamboozling the Dems. and the GOP alike, and is now hoodwinking his followers into believing that he is the true savior of this country. What a bunch of hooey!
Fully cognizant if Hillary's demerits, if the voters, particularly women, seek solace in Trump's magniloquence and his litany of lies, it can be a perfect and a potential recipe for an apocalypse. This guy seems to brainwash those who fall prey to his largely heuristic promises, a lot of which may or may not be beneficial. And that's the way a cookie can crumble.
Currently her email entanglements, mired in a swamp of criticism, have been involving her associates trading barbs, sometimes culminating in the usage of expletives by one her advisers, Neera Tandon. That's absolutely abysmal. As byzantine as her campaign has been, GOP considers her as a low hanging fruit to assail her character.
And then sauntered in Trump, after crushing his GOP opponents in the primaries. This real estate baron has been bamboozling the Dems. and the GOP alike, and is now hoodwinking his followers into believing that he is the true savior of this country. What a bunch of hooey!
Fully cognizant if Hillary's demerits, if the voters, particularly women, seek solace in Trump's magniloquence and his litany of lies, it can be a perfect and a potential recipe for an apocalypse. This guy seems to brainwash those who fall prey to his largely heuristic promises, a lot of which may or may not be beneficial. And that's the way a cookie can crumble.
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This is very similar to the kinds of stories the state book publishers in the Soviet Bloc were forced to publish about the early-life struggles of its leaders.
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Right...because it's impossible for anyone to imagine that HRC had a few days that was what it was with no subtext. If Bill hadn't become president you would have thought this story true and not given it a second thought.
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No it is not similar at all. I grew up in Soviet block, read Soso (Stalin bio) as a child, and believe me, none of these stories were published 40+years after the fact. Usually, people who were friends were in fact shot.
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I guess that was a lesson for Ms Ehrman too: that you can build a wildly successful life not just in Washington or New York City but even in what others may consider the back of beyond. (Also, if this is what 97 looks like, sign me up)
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We begin so innocent and optimistic and, if we're fortunate, we have big, impossible-seeming dreams. Hillary siezed her dreams and obviously beleived in love. Along the way, life proves to be hard, throwing the unexpected our way. But Hillary is still with Bill. And she is still working harder than anybody on the horizon.
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Great article. Hillary Clinton knows hard times and she knows good times. She didn't come to the planet with a silver spoon in her mouth. Her knowledge of how the government works is amazing. She has fought for women's rights her entire life. She may not be perfect but who is? She is respected all over the world. She has class, she stays calm and she is brilliant. I hope she wins the election.
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Don't just hope: VOTE!
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I loved this article! I could really imagine the road trip that Mrs. Ehrman described.
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Another fawning homage that doesn't quite ring true. The pertinent facts are that the then Ms. Rodham had failed the D.C. bar, limiting her chances to shine on the Watergate Committee so she did the pragmatic next best thing; hooked herself to a man who would hurt her and let her down but whose charisma and gender she could use to her political advantage. It is a plan that she has executed masterfully but let's not confuse it with idealism or romance. It is amusing to note that our future President cannot even admit to not making her bed! We will not hold our breath for candor on the email scandal...
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Yup, at 22 or so she had an entire strategy laid out to take over the country by 2016.
Actually, any piece which describes her mousy - brown- brown - brown - wardrobe doesn't qualify as fawning.
A wild guess: FDR, Ike, JFK, even Nixon and certainly the Bushes didn't make their own beds. Jimmy Carter, maybe. More women should make less beds.
Actually, any piece which describes her mousy - brown- brown - brown - wardrobe doesn't qualify as fawning.
A wild guess: FDR, Ike, JFK, even Nixon and certainly the Bushes didn't make their own beds. Jimmy Carter, maybe. More women should make less beds.
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So this was a plan fomented 42 years ago? She makes Obama's fake birth certificate scheme look amateurish.
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Really? You don't have to love or hate Hillary to just let this road trip be what it was: A trip by a kid in her early 20s across half of America.
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How nostalgic. She was dismissed from the Watergate committee and failed her DC bar exam. Basically she had nothing going for herself in DC.
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Lots of people fail the bar exam because it is difficult, especially in D.C. Generally they retake it. As to nothing going for herself, the Watergate myth is not accurate, and unlike the current Benghazi Committee, it ended with a resolution rather than dragging on through what are apparently to be many more years once HRC is elected.
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And made a good decision even while facing negative odds. Stop being so mean spirited.
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She was not dismissed.
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I was living in Memphis when Bill was governor of Arkansas, and had some good friends who had previously worked in Little Rock. They both said that Bill was a good, progressive, smart guy but that Hillary was "really the great one."
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Dare I mention the joke at the time Bill became president:
'Where would Hillary be today if she had married her first boyfriend?'
'First Lady.'
'Where would Hillary be today if she had married her first boyfriend?'
'First Lady.'
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I remember traveling through middle Tennessee at the same time and hearing a minister on the radio talking about Clinton's program of bringing the brightest students across Arkansas to Little Rock every summer to turn them into communists. Trump did not create the deplorables, many had their hand in spreading hate and fear.
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This is why I am so so happy, because the "great woman behind the great man", now gets known for what she is: the great woman, period. And Mrs. President.
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At 60, i can barely remember why i walked into a room. That this lovely 97 year old woman can recall with vivid detail a road trip from 42 years earlier is a testament to the excellent company Hillary keeps. I hope she has a place for Sara Ehrman in her cabinet!
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The article mentions that Hillary stopped in Laurel Bloomery, TN and shopped at the pottery factory there. Interesting to note that Iron Mountain Stoneware, which was made there from the early sixties until the early nineties, was founded and operated by a woman potter named Nancy Patterson Lamb. The factory received an economic development grant from the Appalachian Regional Commission, and employed around 50 local people during its heyday. The stoneware continues to be prized and collected across the county.
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Well spotted and shared. Thank you for noting this, JL Jayne!
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It appears to me that it wasn't the road trip that changed her life. Her decision to move herself to Arkansas and to be with Bill Clinton changed her life.
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Oh yeah?!? Well how about all those emails she sent with her Blackberry while on that very road trip, explaining her strategy for getting millions from Morocco while setting up Benghazi in that Whitewater thing? We've all read the leaks from Assange's connection already, you can't fool us! People have been saying the whole trip was just a cover for the 42-year-old scheme!
Sorry just trying to pre-empt the Trump party line. And provide some Friday humor.
Sorry just trying to pre-empt the Trump party line. And provide some Friday humor.
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You had me going for a second there, Dan. Good one!
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BlackBerry...., in 1973?
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Ya almost got me Dan.
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Oh puh-leeze. Cue the strings! The Times, which has backed Hillary Clinton all year long, now wants to finish the job by telling a love story? Seriously? Maybe Ms. Ehrman's story is true. Maybe the young Hillary Rodham was truly in love. One question, though: Is the Times going to publish the sequel? I seem to recall that it has a less-than-happy ending.
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I'm no Clinton fan but it's a nice story and provides some insight into our next President's formative years. Now for the conspiracy theorist, the drive down to ARK took place in August, the Razorback's football season didn't begin until September 14 that season at home, a win against USC. As usual, the Razorback's lost to Texas in October in Austin...maybe this whole article was fiction! :-))
do you always see a glass half empty?
Hilary and Bill are together, happy grandparents.
how many of your friends are ?
Hilary and Bill are together, happy grandparents.
how many of your friends are ?
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We know the well-publicized middle of the story. But we also know that, in spite of everything, Hillary and Bill love each other. It hasn't ended yet.
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Despite the cynicism of Activist Bill (perhaps even justified!), I was impressed by this story of the young Hillary Clinton. She went way, way out of her comfort zone (I'm sure she missed more than brie and baguettes when she was in Arkansas) and in doing so, became acquainted with Americans she would never have met and perhaps disdained. I would feel as Mrs. Ehrman did, which is "these are not my people, get me out of here." By staying and learning about this America, Hillary Rodham Clinton established her credibility to represent us all as our President. Donald Trump doesn't even like to spend the night in a luxury hotel, but Hillary Clinton went from suburban Chicago, to an elite college, and elite law school and then...Arkansas! She did it for love but why not? She managed to learn and grow, helping her husband rise in his career. Now it's her turn. Go get 'em, Hillary!
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Great piece as it helps counter the portrayal of Hillary as aloof and cold and calculating...blah, blah, blah.
And not to always blame the media...but to blame the media a bit, the repeated portrayal of Hillary in news stories as somehow not quite a normal person with complex feelings -- sometimes rational, sometimes not -- helps fix this simplistic description as the ONLY accurate one.
Mrs. Ehrman from this article and the one about her childhood friends from last week make a powerful case for the REAL Hillary...funny, loyal, smart, tenacious, tough, strong, a striver whose life is one of working for a better world.
I'm voting for Hillary with enthusiasm.
And not to always blame the media...but to blame the media a bit, the repeated portrayal of Hillary in news stories as somehow not quite a normal person with complex feelings -- sometimes rational, sometimes not -- helps fix this simplistic description as the ONLY accurate one.
Mrs. Ehrman from this article and the one about her childhood friends from last week make a powerful case for the REAL Hillary...funny, loyal, smart, tenacious, tough, strong, a striver whose life is one of working for a better world.
I'm voting for Hillary with enthusiasm.
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" the repeated portrayal of Hillary in news stories as somehow not quite a normal person with complex feelings -- sometimes rational, sometimes not "
The real problem is that too many people think that a person with complex feelings is somehow "not quite normal".
The real problem is that too many people think that a person with complex feelings is somehow "not quite normal".
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This true story was also on CNN and in other articles on other media. Anyone who says this is false actually knows nothing or is only following right wing liars on TV and internet
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“I’m from Staten Island. We didn’t eat ribs,” Mrs. Ehrman said.
In addition to other factors regarding the candidate, this, and being from Staten Island, certainly would not have helped a McGovern campaign in Texas.
In addition to other factors regarding the candidate, this, and being from Staten Island, certainly would not have helped a McGovern campaign in Texas.
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Not so quick. Staten Island is a Red state.
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That is a sweet story.
She gave so much up for love and got mostly ashes in return.
She gave so much up for love and got mostly ashes in return.
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I don't think she'd agree.
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"[M]ostly ashes" gets six thumbs up?! And both (as is likely) President of the United States, capping a lifetime spent exercising their passion for service while holding together as a loving family through thick and thin? How strange an assessment.
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What a Great Story Hillary has many friends its wonderful to learn about the Private Hillary the loving friend and wife mother and grandmother. Hillary will be a Awesome President. Hillary is a great woman and she still loves her husband Bill Clinton. #ImWithHer
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The fact that Hillary has many life-long friends speaks volumes of her as a person. I have yet to see any of Trump's "friends" speak up for him - just his immediate family and a few crazed surrogates who are looking for positions in his (god-forbid) administration or on his crazy media network.
Mr. Trump, show us your tax returns and your friends.
Mr. Trump, show us your tax returns and your friends.
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An excellent point, AKJ!!!
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Well there is Roy Cohn, but he died of um 'liver cancer'....
Yes, *that* Roy Cohn and yes they really were friends in New York. The elder Cohn took an unusual interest in the young Trump and was a mentor to him for many years.
Google it. Ick on so many levels.
Yes, *that* Roy Cohn and yes they really were friends in New York. The elder Cohn took an unusual interest in the young Trump and was a mentor to him for many years.
Google it. Ick on so many levels.
Was interested in reading article and wanted to be educated on candidate. 2nd para states she just finished working on Watergate investigation.
Numerous reports state she was released/let go from the investigation ? Which is it ?
Numerous reports state she was released/let go from the investigation ? Which is it ?
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Years ago it took me about 3 minutes to find several articles clearly debunking the claim that Hillary had been fired. Maybe Shawn should spend a few minutes looking things up instead of passing on false internet rumors ("numerous reports") in the form of innocent sounding questions. 4 Pinocchios!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
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Those "reports" are false and have been repeatedly debunked. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
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I too have read many times about Secretary Clinton being fired from the Watergate Committee. Finally, I decided to see what is fact. The following links to an article in the Washington Post. The claim of being fired gets four Pinocchios. Enjoy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/09/06/the-zombi...
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This was an interesting and well written article that belongs on Hillary's campaign site. I haven't seen such a blatant example of campaign planted propaganda in a long time. Even the photographs are credited to the "Hillary Clinton Campaign". As an intelligent, rational, and interested person, I'm offended by this type of softball coverage. PS: I'm voting for her.
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Hillary and Bill Clinton fell very deeply in love many years ago and that has never changed. Their love and only that kind of love will keep people together in the face of the hurt Hillary endured. For the rest of his life, Bill Clinton will need to keep proving his love to her. America is richer for having these two people.
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This reads like the outline for a movie script or a play -
Driving Ms. Hillary
Would they rap it?
I would be first in line for tickets.
Driving Ms. Hillary
Would they rap it?
I would be first in line for tickets.
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Why are right-wingers so lacking when it comes to a sense of humor?
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Pray tell us what changed Hillary Clinton’s life so that she now wants to amass as much money as she can get hold of and hobnob with the rich and the famous. Also do tell us why and how the onetime anti-Vietnam activist is now surrounded by the war-monger neocons. Or maybe she is just going back to her roots of a Goldwater girl.
I used to have faith in the journalistic integrity of the New York Times. I kept that faith even after it pushed for the Iraq war thinking it to be one time aberration. Not anymore. One does not have to be a Trump supporter to realize how biased this once trusted newspaper has become.
I used to have faith in the journalistic integrity of the New York Times. I kept that faith even after it pushed for the Iraq war thinking it to be one time aberration. Not anymore. One does not have to be a Trump supporter to realize how biased this once trusted newspaper has become.
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Would your assessment here be different than for a prescient young man of modest means who charts a life course and expands his universe of contacts and wealth, to become someone with political influence, to become a world leader? Too ambitious? Too sullied by compromise?
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this story was not about the issues you raise. it was a portrait of Clinton as a young woman making a serious decision about the rest of her life. the issues you raise have been written about or could be written about in a different. when chelsea Clinton had a baby did it delve into sex scandals, wall street etc etc?
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I guess she and Bill are amassing money because they learned that's what most people, even poor and working people, respect. it's a way of keeping score and confers credibility among rich and poor alike. Or, it's just and really sly way of redistributing wealth from the super rich to the merely rich and those who benefit from the foundation. Or, all of the above. Though personally, I think Bill could just stop now and build houses for the poor like Jimmy Carter does.
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What struck me the most about this article is how an East Coast Washington insider dismisses the middle of the country. That a career politician and lobbyist would find going to be an educator in very middle of the country would be "throwing your life away"!!
Good on Hillary for ignoring the unfair and elitist judgment of her landlord and pursuing a path she believed in. Let's hope Hillary hasn't forgotten where she has come from.
Good on Hillary for ignoring the unfair and elitist judgment of her landlord and pursuing a path she believed in. Let's hope Hillary hasn't forgotten where she has come from.
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Yeah I thought the same thing!
"You're never going to get french bread here, you're never going to get brie..."
This is exactly what creates the venom that so many right wingers spew.
"You're never going to get french bread here, you're never going to get brie..."
This is exactly what creates the venom that so many right wingers spew.
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@Southern Boy: I'm originally from New York, so when I read about Mrs. Ehrman's horror upon arriving in Arkansas I laughed. Haven't you ever seen that classic New Yorker cover/poster showing a New Yorker's view of the world?
http://www.posterart.com/ourposters/newyorker.html
http://www.posterart.com/ourposters/newyorker.html
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What a lovely story! I'm glad Hillary, super smart Hillary, had the wisdom to follow her heart. It takes courage! Men don't have to make decisions like this, but women do, and I'm glad my President understands these choices we make, and sometimes can't make.
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I liked the story, too, but I take exception to your statement that men don't need to make decisions like this. Many of us have, to follow our hearts...
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Hilarious. Every front page piece on Trump is a hit, every front page piece on Hillary reads like an expensive PR job.
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Are you suggesting that all the articles about Trump - his treatment of women, his condescension towards non-whites, his narcissism, his historically poor campaign, his idiotic three a.m. tweets and more - are untrue? Trump is what he is. Just writing about him truthfully comes across as a hit piece because he is the worst presidential candidate - bar none - for either major political party since at least Richard M. Nixon. And that's saying something.
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I'm sure Trump's many fans could write something as touching if only such a story existed. But alas, there isn't one.
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What do you care, it's not your election.
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This event happened 42 years ago; its irrelevant to the present. Thank you.
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So what happened to you growing up means nothing today?
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how could it be irrelevant? it was a life changing choice for a woman who looks like she'll be next potus. if she'd stayed in Washington her career path wouldn't have been the same......
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That's rich, coming from a part of the country that flies the battle flag of a losing army from 150 years ago.
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Her inability to be swayed to pursue love and life in Arkansas was likely the most important move in her young life. For me this tells me she blends strong feelings with a practical side as well because she was betting her future on someone she knew far better than her driver-companion.
I'm pretty sure Mrs Ehrman sees things differently today, but I'm sure Hillary, despite the ups and downs of life with Bill, has no regrets.
I'm pretty sure Mrs Ehrman sees things differently today, but I'm sure Hillary, despite the ups and downs of life with Bill, has no regrets.
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Great story! The chance that Mrs. Clinton will bring the values of being
"on the road" and the McGovern campaign with her to the White House are about the same as Walmart paying its employees $20. an hour with benefits.
By the way, as someone who supported George McGovern... an end to war and lessening income inequality were two of the important policy positions from his run for the White House. Worth mentioning all of these years later...
"on the road" and the McGovern campaign with her to the White House are about the same as Walmart paying its employees $20. an hour with benefits.
By the way, as someone who supported George McGovern... an end to war and lessening income inequality were two of the important policy positions from his run for the White House. Worth mentioning all of these years later...
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You're bitter and getting old Howie. I worked for McGovern. I've protested all my 63 years for all the progressive issues your comment indicates you favor. A lot has changed and there's a lot more to change. While I'm no optimist at 63, I'm a hell of a lot more optimistic than I have been.
Change comes slowly for the most part Howie, as does perspective with age. Grow up. And GO HILLARY.
Change comes slowly for the most part Howie, as does perspective with age. Grow up. And GO HILLARY.
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Lilly: Hyperbole is getting really overworked these days as is righteous indignation from aging baby boomers. At 63 you have been protesting for more like 40 years and you would have been about 14 when McGovern ran for president. I suppose it's possible but more likely your parents gave you a McGovern button while you were listening to the Beatles which you have embellished with age into memories of political activism. Lighten up on Howie. At least his memory seems to be intact.
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Your math is wrong, Robert. McGovern ran in 1972. Lily would have been 19.
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This I think is the clincher. Trump, I do not think you have a chance.
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Having driven the exact trip in two bites..first to Abington down 81 to teach a workshop...and then much older from Maine to Arkansas thru Fayetteville, with only my border collie, and camping en route ...to make another trip to Leslie Arkansas to see 40 acres my Dad had bought sight unseen in the 30'a...eating bologna sandwiches on white bread, seeing tarantulas the size of cats migrating to Louisiana...and all the while being a feminist at Smith ahead of my time in the fifties.and staying across from a slaughter house the first night, I feel a kinship I have always felt with HRC..now 4! 11' alone, and still speaking truth to power I"m for her, despite well informed about her defense system.
Thank you for your always great reporting Amy.
Thank you for your always great reporting Amy.
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Great Insight. Nice story.
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I know this time and this age and this same feeling of believing in yourself and needing to break free and escape convention and strike out on one's own and build a life with someone you cannot be without, whom you adore and whom you respect, come what may, full of possibilities and, yes, spurred by a cause bigger than yourself. It feels genuine to me. This new president of ours, she needs to channel the young Hillary Rodham. Fresh air. Fresh possibilities. Free, again, to be her best. I think it would help all of us.
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Beautifully said.
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"This new president of ours,{{I so hope}} she needs to channel the young Hillary Rodham. Fresh air. Fresh possibilities. Free, again, to be her best. I think it would help all of us." ~ Love what you wrote Paul H.
She followed her heart when she moved to Arkansas and life turned out well for her. May both her heart and mind guide her as President of this great and complicated nation and maybe we will all benefit.
She followed her heart when she moved to Arkansas and life turned out well for her. May both her heart and mind guide her as President of this great and complicated nation and maybe we will all benefit.
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What a nice article. Hillary is an incredible woman and she still loves Bill!!!
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You have got to be kidding. Once your husband has multiple affairs things are never the same. You are living in never never land.
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For you, maybe.
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Hillary has many life long friends and she keeps them. she will be an amazing President!
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She does reward all her friends with money and influence.
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Notice there is NOBODY who comes forward with anything good to say about her opponent. Ever. All his past associates talk about his greed, malfeasance, lying, thin skin, vengeful nature, short attention span and his general lack of intellect.
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And you know this how, exactly? Does it ever stop from you people? Gimme a break!
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