Donald Trump is 70 years old. He's not going to change. Neither is Hillary Clinton for that matter. What you see is what you get. The decision is what to do about it.
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I find it very troubling that from day one Trump carried the polls when he needed to and then lost ground to Hillary when she needed it. In case after case the events unfolded so as to benefit Hillary Clinton.
ps..... is it really very hard to sway the polling being done? All that is required is to be directley involved in the "random" selection of phone numbers and to have the ability to view the emails or facebook pages based on those phone numbers.... In todays world all of this is very simple indeed.
ps..... is it really very hard to sway the polling being done? All that is required is to be directley involved in the "random" selection of phone numbers and to have the ability to view the emails or facebook pages based on those phone numbers.... In todays world all of this is very simple indeed.
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I think black people - and the rest of us - heard enough when Trump harassed our first black president with his birther nonsense. It was utter nonsense. Repeating it did nothing more than tell us what a clueless and racist person Trump is.
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Gotta say, I am sick of anything Trump - and for my sanity I have sworn off any news story about him. I wonder if I am the only one? Sorry, but my mind was made up when he first began "playing" the media back in the 80's. He was good for a few shocker statements, but the joke is OLD!
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Well that's comforting... "We're not looking to hurt people". Yeah, that ought to draw minorities to him! Ha! Sad!
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Pig. Meet lipstick.
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So, The Big Bad Wolf named Trump is now Little Miss Sunshine. The public Trump of last week is not the public Trump of today. This fool thinks that we will believe that every nasty, evil thing he said since becoming the candidate is not who he really is. Think again, He is the same nasty piece of work.
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Good luck with that.
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Notice how he doesn't hug anyone? Ever? Or when he does, it's like he closes his eyes and looks away (or leers, if it's a woman, or his daughter?). There is something DEEPLY wrong with him as a human being, let alone a candidate for anything.
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This is a disaster. Trump really has no respect for anyone including their ability to remember what he said and how he said it. There is just something for everyone at this point. Winning is the only goal for the GOP - whatever treachery it takes.
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60% of Americans believe that Trump is 'biased' against 'minorities', do they? And the other 40%? Are they quite content with him? It's a fine time to be an American, at home or abroad.
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Trump's pivot is perhaps the most disgusting rendition yet of this quadrennial Republican presidential ritual. As always, the sole purpose is to attract a few more of those mysterious in-the-middle white voters who like a dash of hope in their stew of fear and hatred.
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"He’s the one whose campaign is enrolling “monitors” to station at polls this November, supposedly to turn away fraudulent voters — a problem that exists only in Republicans’ imaginations. The real point is intimidation, and not of middle-class suburban white voters."
I was curious about the training/guidance the Trump campaign would provide to the people it signs up as poll monitors, so I signed up as a monitor.
As it turns out, the website is simply a lure to bring in donations. When attempt to sign up as a monitor, you're asked for a donation; if you choose not to give, you're not signed up.
I was curious about the training/guidance the Trump campaign would provide to the people it signs up as poll monitors, so I signed up as a monitor.
As it turns out, the website is simply a lure to bring in donations. When attempt to sign up as a monitor, you're asked for a donation; if you choose not to give, you're not signed up.
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Interesting. I wish a reporter would look into this.
Thank you for sharing this.
Thank you for sharing this.
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The arrogance, racisim and condescension of Mr. Rosenthal astounds The assumption that minorities should vote as a block -- and should ignore what Republicans could do for them -- smacks of 'massa" running the plantation -- and is afraid someone might come and poach what is rightfully his. After all, the democrats own minorities, do they not.
And as for the Republicans, nothing but a bunch of white trash. Right?
And as for the Republicans, nothing but a bunch of white trash. Right?
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I think the lack of quality politicians in the U.S. might be the American people's own making. The general lack of respect to government and statesmanship is astonishing. No smart and ambitions young people nowadays will be inspired to become a statesman\politician. Most of the Trump supporters are angry at something, and most of them believe they are the victim of a "system" without knowing what that really means. Just because someone's style of talking happened to be inline with your anger, doesn't make him a good person, let alone a person who can help you to a better life. Having too much self-confidence without knowledge and an unbiased inquisitive mind is a perfect combination to property and dissatisfaction. A vicious circle.
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Really? His senior communications adviser says we're now starting to see "the real Donald Trump"? That's a flat admission from an official campaign representative that the Republicans nominated their candidate under false pretenses. I would have expected a bit more uproar about this, especially since Mr. Miller implied that there's more "real" Trump that we have yet to see. Ugh!
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"They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
Those words will never be forgotten by any Hispanic citizen. No matter how many prepared speeches he delivers to try to soften them.
African Americans will also never forget his offensive campaign against Obama.
Trump has no chance with minorities.
Those words will never be forgotten by any Hispanic citizen. No matter how many prepared speeches he delivers to try to soften them.
African Americans will also never forget his offensive campaign against Obama.
Trump has no chance with minorities.
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I'm so white I'm almost blue and I was offended by those things as well.
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Oh the irony. The republican party has done everything possible to block our African-American brothers and sisters (Latinos too) access to the voting booth. Now the undeniably bigoted big tent party's candidate has the gall to ask for their votes. Because they have nothing to lose.
Um.. yes they do. It's called self-respect, reasoning and intelligence. Something the followers and promoters of the red faced menace know zero about.
When this is over, and that can't come soon enough for me, I hope it's with such an avalanche of rejection that the architects of this travesty can never show their faces in public again.
Um.. yes they do. It's called self-respect, reasoning and intelligence. Something the followers and promoters of the red faced menace know zero about.
When this is over, and that can't come soon enough for me, I hope it's with such an avalanche of rejection that the architects of this travesty can never show their faces in public again.
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In the first Presidential debate I want the moderator to ask Trump point blank if he believes Obama was born in the United States, and ask him about the results of the task force he sent to Hawaii.
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The "real" Donald Trump is the one who is running a fake presidential campaign, and who will make money off of his fake presidential run in several ways. He will find a way to launder the campaign contributions he is now getting (to the tune of 80 million in July alone) in various ways, including paying his own businesses premium market rates for air travel, etc. (read David Cay Johnston's The Making of Donald Trump for a more involved explanation on how Trump will do this).
Trump will also "own" a huge angry and aggrieved "market" of tens of millions of dumped voters who will buy his conspiracy spin on a stolen election and gobble up any books, media products, freeze dried "Trump" Prepper food, etc. he will offer them in the future to help "take back America." And lastly the Clintons will owe him, literally, the election, so you can bet the Clinton Justice Department will never take a first, let alone, a second look at any dubious business or tax schemes he gets involved in over the next eight years.
Trump will also "own" a huge angry and aggrieved "market" of tens of millions of dumped voters who will buy his conspiracy spin on a stolen election and gobble up any books, media products, freeze dried "Trump" Prepper food, etc. he will offer them in the future to help "take back America." And lastly the Clintons will owe him, literally, the election, so you can bet the Clinton Justice Department will never take a first, let alone, a second look at any dubious business or tax schemes he gets involved in over the next eight years.
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Can you be a racist all last year, right up to July, but not be a racist in August? How does that work? Hooking up with white nationalists won't help.
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The whole GOP relationship with black and other minority voters smacks of some form of schizophrenia.
In 1964 it nominated one of the few GOP Senators to oppose civil rights legislation. The "southern strategy" was designed to woo whites who had voted for George Wallace. In the 1980s the GOP "welfare queens" language was pointedly racist. Then there was Willie Horton - a black parolee who was used to typify might happen to your wife if Dukakis were elected. Now, its Trump - an unrepentant birther, who seems to have forgotten about the blacks who have served and died in our volunteer armed forces, but talks alot about those who have been killed in "those places" where they live, and voter fraud in "some sections" of Pennsylvania.
At the same time the GOP touts how its economic policies are better for minorities, and how its social views, eg. on abortion, are more in keeping with African-American and other groups' moral and religious values.
Doing all of these things at the same time, and hoping to win over voters, simply makes no sense.
In 1964 it nominated one of the few GOP Senators to oppose civil rights legislation. The "southern strategy" was designed to woo whites who had voted for George Wallace. In the 1980s the GOP "welfare queens" language was pointedly racist. Then there was Willie Horton - a black parolee who was used to typify might happen to your wife if Dukakis were elected. Now, its Trump - an unrepentant birther, who seems to have forgotten about the blacks who have served and died in our volunteer armed forces, but talks alot about those who have been killed in "those places" where they live, and voter fraud in "some sections" of Pennsylvania.
At the same time the GOP touts how its economic policies are better for minorities, and how its social views, eg. on abortion, are more in keeping with African-American and other groups' moral and religious values.
Doing all of these things at the same time, and hoping to win over voters, simply makes no sense.
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Can the real Donald Trump stop repeating all of his prominent phrases or punch lines three times, like we are stupid and can’t understand what he said the first time? We get it! We get it! We get it!
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''Hey, these blacks have a problem. See, they won't even listen to Mr. Trump when he's talking to them and their problems. They rather have their free Obama phones. But, he's proving his point by talking to them like they're humans and they won't meet him halfway.''
Does that about sum up the white supremacist reaction that the Trump is seeking to convince those white suburban moderates with? Especially, you know, the chicks and the soccer moms who are too intimidated to stand up to 'those blacks.'
There is nothing that Trump thinks, does, or says that is not offensive to any mildly sentient human being because he's a hateful psychopath whose sole motive is 'winning' - 'getting over.' So much of Donald.Lite.2.0. Reboot, rewind, reject.
Does that about sum up the white supremacist reaction that the Trump is seeking to convince those white suburban moderates with? Especially, you know, the chicks and the soccer moms who are too intimidated to stand up to 'those blacks.'
There is nothing that Trump thinks, does, or says that is not offensive to any mildly sentient human being because he's a hateful psychopath whose sole motive is 'winning' - 'getting over.' So much of Donald.Lite.2.0. Reboot, rewind, reject.
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His immediate reaction to his new handlers as he was confronted with his reality. On a National basis his appeal is not even close to what he sees and reaching to non white voters scares him. As Mr Khan so correctly mentioned he lacks empathy the key ingredient to convey any true conviction in his message.
He thinks what is obvious to his sick mind should be clear to others. To have lived in the US for the last 70 years and have no idea of the true role and life of minorities in this country speaks of his disinterest and lack of empathy. Not something that grows on trees.
He thinks what is obvious to his sick mind should be clear to others. To have lived in the US for the last 70 years and have no idea of the true role and life of minorities in this country speaks of his disinterest and lack of empathy. Not something that grows on trees.
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The more the mainstream media pounds Donald Trump the more his popularity and following seems to grow. I remember presidential campaigns going back decades and read about others going back centuries and I have never seen nor read the amount of shameless partisanship, bias, and prejudice against any candidate the way I have seen most of the daily newspapers, tv, radio, magazines, etc. attacking any and everything Donald Trump says or does. Some say Donald was put up to run for President to make Hillary acceptable by comparison or otherwise she would lose to virtually any other GOP candidate except Jeb Bush and the Clintons' single minded goal for decades has been to be the first husband and wife "team" to ever both become POTUS. Others say that the New World Order 0.1% is genuinely worried because Trump emphasizes America First on trade issues and immigration and this goes against their nefarious schemes for a One World globalized economy and society where they own 99% of everything and the 99% own 1%. Of course DT could also be their lackey, knave and varlet as the Witch of Wall Street "Billary" Clinton clearly already is. Really there is just no telling at this point. What is telling is that the New York Times is openly hostile and vituperative towards anything Donald Trump says or does. Any pretense at being "impartial", "fair" or "balanced" as is not just the right but the duty of a free press has been jettisoned in shilling for Hillary Clinton and vilifying Donald Trump.
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Nobody plays the victim more emphatically than an offended con artist.
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"What is telling is that the New York Times is openly hostile and vituperative towards anything Donald Trump says or does."
I'm not defender of the NYT, but that paper has been much too responsible, too gentle. It should say bluntly and regularly that Trump has no -- zero -- qualifications appropriate to the presidency, and, worse still, he's a "pathological liar" (Cruz). From a historical point of view, I can recall no other candidate for that high office, at least over the last 3/4 of a century, who routinely wallowed in "conspiracy theory" and lied on a daily basis. In the regard, Trump stands unchallenged, hands down.
So, Trump "vilified" by the NYT? The birther? Naaaah. Of course, to be fair and balanced, it again must be emphasized that nobody's perfect.
I'm not defender of the NYT, but that paper has been much too responsible, too gentle. It should say bluntly and regularly that Trump has no -- zero -- qualifications appropriate to the presidency, and, worse still, he's a "pathological liar" (Cruz). From a historical point of view, I can recall no other candidate for that high office, at least over the last 3/4 of a century, who routinely wallowed in "conspiracy theory" and lied on a daily basis. In the regard, Trump stands unchallenged, hands down.
So, Trump "vilified" by the NYT? The birther? Naaaah. Of course, to be fair and balanced, it again must be emphasized that nobody's perfect.
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There are less than 80 days left until E Day. How will Trump do. I predict the significant variable for Trump is shelf life. Will the passage of time when he has dominated the media stage turn the mouth that roared into the mouth that bored? Will Donald's due date have expired?
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Trump couldn't care less about minority voters. He's been a racist his whole life, just like his father, and he isn't going to change now.
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“Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen. You can go to war zones in countries that we are fighting and it’s safer than living in some of our inner cities that are run by the Democrats.”
My goodness. Is that me? It doesn't sound like me. Actually, I graduated from UC Berkeley. I own TWO homes. I live in an inner city and a state run by Democrats. I've travelled the world and I have a wonderful job and a beautiful life.
I WOULD* vote for Trump, but first I need to see his tax returns.
*Not really. He's appalling. Plus, I've been to the island of Oahu, where our excellent President Barak Obama, was born. It's in the United States.
My goodness. Is that me? It doesn't sound like me. Actually, I graduated from UC Berkeley. I own TWO homes. I live in an inner city and a state run by Democrats. I've travelled the world and I have a wonderful job and a beautiful life.
I WOULD* vote for Trump, but first I need to see his tax returns.
*Not really. He's appalling. Plus, I've been to the island of Oahu, where our excellent President Barak Obama, was born. It's in the United States.
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This made me smile. Best wishes for your continued success.
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His speeches during the primary were merely jokes and sarcasm. Really! Now we see the "real Donald".
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We know Donald Trump thoroughly by now. Is there another facet to him? Impossible! Everything we know about him is very, very real. There is no 'other' Trump. He is who he is, he is what he is and he means every nasty word that comes out of his vapid mouth. Changing old habits and personality in 80 days are well nigh impossible especially when he cannot even read from a teleprompter.
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Correction: Let's not gloss over history. We all know US soldiers in Iraq were not defending their country, the US never declared war, and that the invasion was unprovoked and a violation of international law.
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The "60 percent of Americans think(ing) Trump is biased against women and minorities" already know the "real" Donald Trump. Trump is a "con artist" now and always has been, and all the American people need to "get ready" for now is more of the "big con" that has been an ongoing story since he began his run for president.
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When I moved to Texas from NY in the 1980's one of my Texas employees asked me why so many North-easterner's voted Democratic. I answered "civil rights". Then I asked him why so many Texans voted Republican.
His answer, "civil rights".
I don't think Trump and the Republicans will fool anyone with this latest course reversal.
His answer, "civil rights".
I don't think Trump and the Republicans will fool anyone with this latest course reversal.
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I can't wait to see how he does with a teleprompter during the debates. As I have said before - Trump is uncontrolled and uncontrollable. His handlers may have him by the shorts but eventually he will revert to the "real" Trump - if there even is one.
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So perhaps the real Donald Trump is actually an amalgam of every headline from the National Enquirer, the Washington Times, Breitbart, right wing talk radio and other ultra conservative publications dating back decades. The depth of his commitment to policy or governance is as long as a twitter message.
A shape shifter to be sure. I am whatever you think I am or what I need to be when I am talking to you.
I think we've seen the real Trump, a needy narcissist who cannot go without attention for more than a 24 hour news cycle. And he will flip flop, rant on cue and perform whatever is required to get attention.
He has already proved to me that his business dealings were more about intimidation than strategy. He can't manage a campaign. He relies on the bully factor more than the facts and he is a lazy thinker who reduces everything to 144 characters. I'll pass.
A shape shifter to be sure. I am whatever you think I am or what I need to be when I am talking to you.
I think we've seen the real Trump, a needy narcissist who cannot go without attention for more than a 24 hour news cycle. And he will flip flop, rant on cue and perform whatever is required to get attention.
He has already proved to me that his business dealings were more about intimidation than strategy. He can't manage a campaign. He relies on the bully factor more than the facts and he is a lazy thinker who reduces everything to 144 characters. I'll pass.
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Our most urgent national mission is to change the process that has given us with two wholly unqualified candidates for President: both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are greedy, venal, power hungry, grifters whose primary interest is to enhance their own status and promote their own cabal of oligarchs instead of serving the interests of our country. Trump should release his tax returns {which will show minimal taxes paid) and a real net worth statement (which will show a mountain of debt and maybe a $Billion in NAV). Trump should forthrightly explain Trump University complaints and what amends he intends to make. Hillary should disclose the $2 Billion NAV in the Clinton Family Foundation, especially from donations and fees paid during her career as SOS. About 50 loyal Clinton operatives have been employed by the State Department, the foundation, and Teneo and its affiliates, all coordinating relations among global Clinton Foundation donors and US Government departments. The Clintons should explain this, remove the conflict by separating themselves from the entity entirely and rename it, BEFORE the election. If it truly isn't a family slush fund to provide the global jet stream lifestyle for the 50 loyal friends and family, that should be easy. I bet that doesn't happen; that the foundation was intended to be a private Clinton piggy bank. And lack of journalistic integrity is the reason competent, balanced people we all know in private life won't run for public office.
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You deny your own responsibility for poisonous politics. You are why wise people avoid US politics.
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"Flexible," "real" and "deep-felt" are not words I associate with the Repugnant Party. How's that teleprompter working out for you, Donald?
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Recently there's been a whole new prospective aspect to Trump. Let's see how he embraces the "alt-Right", which rejects the views even of most Republicans. Does that leave the Republican Party to now be the party of Breitbart, of "white nationalism", one that breaks with both Democrats and regular Republicans (e.g. Priebus)?
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It is stupid for black folk to support Hillary, our "progressives" are the cause of the problems in the black community obviously not the solution. Trump's policies will lift them up, while Hillary's will continue to keep them down.
Thank you for providing the perspective of the descendants of overseers.
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okay, what are Trump's policies specifically? I must have missed the insights when I watch his speeches.
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LOL! Really? What Trump policies, pray tell?
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When you have to be hard right to win the primary then move to the middle to have any chance of winning, it is time for the Republicans to revamp the primary system. It gives the hard right too much power. Autopsy time, again.
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From the moment Obama was elected the GOP's in Congress vowed to make him a one-term president and promised they would work for him to fail. This was after Trump financially backed and loudly progressed the "Birther" movement. Racial hatred and fear has underscored the GOP for the last decade, at the least. The notion of Trump modifying that stance and the justified perception that the GOP is the white person's party is laughable at best and horrifying at its very real worst.
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The boat has sailed.
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No, Hillary still has a chance, but she's going to actually have public appearances. She can't just rely on the media outlets to carry on her campaign for her.
If she only visits other rich people, the Trump TV ads will sink her quickly.
If she only visits other rich people, the Trump TV ads will sink her quickly.
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L'Osservatore,
“Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
-Napoleon
“Never interfere with your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
-Napoleon
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Mr. Trump wants to visit Detroit in the company of Dr. Carson. But he chose an odd location for his August 16 speech kicking off his reach-out to black voters. This was West Bend, Wisconsin, which has a whopping African-American population of 1%, and West Bend is in Washington County, which of America's 3,000+ counties has the 29th lowest rate of poverty. But on his way there he passed through the City of Milwaukee (I live there), where he could have found a wonderful concentration of black voters to make his appeal to. Instead, he lectured his all-white audience on why black voters should vote for him.
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The world is shaking, specially Europe. And it is up to the media to make the threat to go away.
Free press is the best.
Free press is the best.
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Maybe as a start Mr Trump can personally apologize to President Obama for Mr Trump's support of birtherism.
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Every African-American in the United States knows that Donald Trump spent more than a year trying to de-legitimize the country's birst black president, Barack Obama, with that "birther" nonsense.
Black people hate Trump, as they should.
He will be lucky to get two percent of their votes.
Black people hate Trump, as they should.
He will be lucky to get two percent of their votes.
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@pm
I'd say it's closer to 1% of their votes.
I'd say it's closer to 1% of their votes.
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Advocating hatred is really stupid.
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@winston
It seems that Donald Trump has not gotten that message.
It seems that Donald Trump has not gotten that message.
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Trump says the Dem party has done nothing for blacks and Hispanics -- revealing yet another ignorant misconception. Thousands (or even hundreds of thousands) of Dem office holders ARE blacks and Hispanics. The Democratic party not only fought to open pathways to jobs and power through Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, and other measures. The Dems also ELECT thousands of blacks and Hispanics to offices. Republicans fought or even destroyed empowerment measures and rarely elect blacks and Hispanics -- although when they do, they point loudly at them as in "There's my African American" says Trump. Or "Our blacks are better than their blacks," says Ann Coulter. The GOP has a LONG way to go just in basic comprehension of the situation.
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The Democratic Party strives to govern for everyone, not just the rich, and not just people of European extraction.
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You gotta love it when no one takes his outreach to Latinos and African Americans because what he's really trying to do is let suburban white women know that he's not a racist. This from the guy who "tells it like it is"!
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Is that so? Such reasoning and logic in two sentences explain the whole phenomenon! Obviously a person with such glowing intellectual capacity is really telling it like it is, inside a pea brain.
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Reach out to blacks and Latinos, then encourage supporters to intimidate blacks and Latinos at the voting booth.
Yeah, that's great planning and great strategy only a really, really rich and really smart guy could dream up. Anyone who has an ounce of gray matter in their heads should have instantly rejected Trump long ago. Unfortunately, there are many people who don't posses much of that matter.
Yeah, that's great planning and great strategy only a really, really rich and really smart guy could dream up. Anyone who has an ounce of gray matter in their heads should have instantly rejected Trump long ago. Unfortunately, there are many people who don't posses much of that matter.
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Trump is The Great Salesman, so there is no "real" Donald Trump. He will be whoever he needs to be to make the sale, and winning the presidency is the greatest sales job of his life.
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The only reason that Donald Trump is saying anything different now from what he has been saying is that he's losing. But at that, it's only what he's SAYING.
Donald Trump will SAY pretty much anything to get people to do whatever it is that he wants at the moment.
DELIVERY, though, is a very different issue. He's big on promises, not so big on follow-through.
Donald Trump will SAY pretty much anything to get people to do whatever it is that he wants at the moment.
DELIVERY, though, is a very different issue. He's big on promises, not so big on follow-through.
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Why is the NYT ignoring Clinton's issues?
It did a great job last year of exposing Secretary Clinton's approval of the sale of Uranium One, constituting 20% of the US Uranium supply, to Russia, while the Clinton Foundation was paid $2.35 million by Uranium One, and the Clintons were personally paid half a million more in speaking fees. (See April 23, 2015 NYT article.)
Where is the follow-up, now that more information is coming out on "pay to play"?
Is this paper now only interested in writing about Trump?
By the way, I'm likely voting for Clinton because Trump is too much of a risk.
But where is the even-handed journalism?
It did a great job last year of exposing Secretary Clinton's approval of the sale of Uranium One, constituting 20% of the US Uranium supply, to Russia, while the Clinton Foundation was paid $2.35 million by Uranium One, and the Clintons were personally paid half a million more in speaking fees. (See April 23, 2015 NYT article.)
Where is the follow-up, now that more information is coming out on "pay to play"?
Is this paper now only interested in writing about Trump?
By the way, I'm likely voting for Clinton because Trump is too much of a risk.
But where is the even-handed journalism?
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First of all, this is an opinion piece - completely different department from the news desks. If you wand to read opinion pieces galore in the NYT bashing HRC, even when she is claiming to write about someone or something else, I recommend Ms. Maureen Dowd. Picking up right where she left off during the 2007-08 primary race.
As for the news department, I have just seen several articles in the last week or so about: Clinton's aide when she was Sec'y of State exchanging e-mails with a donor to the Foundation who was seeking gov't favors; the Repubs demanding and getting access to a new trove of e-mails, to be followed, I am certain, by whatever was in them and what was interpreted to be in them, etc, etc. So can we stop, please, tarring this award-winning newspaper with allegations of bias in news coverage? It just ain't there, sorry
As for the news department, I have just seen several articles in the last week or so about: Clinton's aide when she was Sec'y of State exchanging e-mails with a donor to the Foundation who was seeking gov't favors; the Repubs demanding and getting access to a new trove of e-mails, to be followed, I am certain, by whatever was in them and what was interpreted to be in them, etc, etc. So can we stop, please, tarring this award-winning newspaper with allegations of bias in news coverage? It just ain't there, sorry
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I hate to claim "you did it first!" as a defense for anything, but everyone's e-mail includes trial balloons that didn't fly.
Enough of the "this is opinion" excuse. An honest opinion is one thing and is subject to the same journalistic rules of fairness as reportage is. A dishonest opinion is called propaganda, or lying. Trump may be a lot of things but he didn't try to assassinate HRC, is not a Traitor or a Russian spy. Character assassination, distortion, baseless innuendo are all tools used in the opinion section of this paper to advance their chosen candidate. It is not and never will be acceptable regardless of the "noble" ends.
This is a pivot that exposes desperation, confusion, and hubris. Reaching out to minorities after all he has said and done?! He's trying to steady a plane that is in a free fall into the abyss. He's a fool who has surrounded himself with other fools.
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I agree with AACNY - Trump will end up with more black votes than one would suppose. Charles Blow recently wrote a column titled: "Why Black People Hate Donald Trump." What he really meant is "Why I Hate Donald Trump." Or do all black people think the same? Why give more credibility to Charles than, say, Ben Carson?
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Have you ever *listened* to the near-incoherent Dr. Ben Carson? Well, I have and like many question why he left his theretofore brilliant neurosurgical career at such a relatively young age. So yes, I find Charles Blow more credible than the good doctor and Donald both, and Mr. Blow presented a sound and accurate explanation for Black America's repugnance of Donald.
Donald will be lucky if he can scrape together one percent of the Black republican vote much less overall.
Donald will be lucky if he can scrape together one percent of the Black republican vote much less overall.
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@mitj
Sorry... Both AACNY & you are wrong here. Most Blacks already know what Trump is about -- and it's not them!
He can forget that vote.
Sorry... Both AACNY & you are wrong here. Most Blacks already know what Trump is about -- and it's not them!
He can forget that vote.
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I think everyone who has been around awhile remembers how Ted Kennedy in 1975 opened the doors along with Bill Clinton and Clinton did so before his election. All of the masses of immigrants whether Hispanic or Muslim procreate and not to the tune of two children per family. Enough said; the democrats want the votes and will get them whenever and whatever way possible. The Republicans have just caught on.
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Many liberals do know that competive procreation has been the root cause of genocidal warfare ever since the formation of tribes. Global population stability is an urgent need for world peace.
With narcissists, there is no "there" there. There is no real Donald Trump. He wants the cheering rallies and his face on the cover of magazines. He'll say whatever gets him that. Narcissists can't handle criticism so when he gets criticized for something he said, he'll backpedal but only until he's in front of a cheering crowd again. Then he says what they want to hear. If you understand narcissistic personality disorder, his behavior is entirely predictable.
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Behind all the bluster and affect, Trump's campaign is founded on winks and whispers. For those who can see, hear and read, the messages are clear signals in the noise.
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This pivot is working just fine for one group of voters. I work with Cold War patriots in the defense industry. These are not politically active folks, but they do vote every election. And they vote Republican because republicans love America and favor self sufficiency. And that's why they'll vote Republican for President. And Trump is saying things now that make that vote less painful.
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Really? Polluted air and water, endless wars, tax cuts that favor the wealthy etc. is love for America?
When are all those corporate executives going to become self sufficient?
When are all those corporate executives going to become self sufficient?
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The folks who will push guns until everyone still living on this planet is armed to the teeth?
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Every voter desperately needs another Khan moment where a citizen who sees through Trump calls him out with plain, devastating, can't-wiggle-out of truth and asks him to respond. Live to his face. Trump deserves this but more so we, the voter do.
And then let the Twitter storm begin.
And then let the Twitter storm begin.
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Minority voters seem to have a pretty good handle on what Trump is all about. What is troubling, however, is that approximately 40% of voters are made up of rubes, racists, lower information individuals and various other malcontents. It would appear that for too much of our country Barnum, paraphrased, was right; a sucker is born every minute.
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Trump's so-called softening and conciliatory comments are not really aimed at African-Americans or Hispanics. Their sole purpose is to convince Republicans who are on the fence about Trump that they can support him without being labeled bigots. Trump has always been a racist and bigot. He was prosecuted in the 1970s for refusing to let black couples into his housing developments, telling them there was full occupancy, while telling white couples there were plenty of units available.
Trump asked his lawyer, Roy Cohn, formerly Joseph McCarthy's top aide whether to sue the feds or settle. Cohn advised sue, which Trump did. The suit was immediately thrown out as without merit and Trump ended up settling - though his bigoted real estate policies continued.
Black and Hispanic voters are incensed at Trumps racist stereotype that sees ALL Black and Hispanic voters living in ghettos, being robbed and shot every day. This is an ugly stereotype that almost every African-American and Hispanic voter easily sees through.
Trump says "What do you have to lose?" I say, all of the advances made since 1964 and the Civil Rights Act's passage. Republicans have recently been taking away the rights of the black communities through a right-wing majority decision in the Supreme Court that weakened the Voting Rights Act and hundreds of state regulations aimed at black/hispanic voter suppression.
Trump will only take minorities back to the days of Jim Crow - that's what they have to lose.
Trump asked his lawyer, Roy Cohn, formerly Joseph McCarthy's top aide whether to sue the feds or settle. Cohn advised sue, which Trump did. The suit was immediately thrown out as without merit and Trump ended up settling - though his bigoted real estate policies continued.
Black and Hispanic voters are incensed at Trumps racist stereotype that sees ALL Black and Hispanic voters living in ghettos, being robbed and shot every day. This is an ugly stereotype that almost every African-American and Hispanic voter easily sees through.
Trump says "What do you have to lose?" I say, all of the advances made since 1964 and the Civil Rights Act's passage. Republicans have recently been taking away the rights of the black communities through a right-wing majority decision in the Supreme Court that weakened the Voting Rights Act and hundreds of state regulations aimed at black/hispanic voter suppression.
Trump will only take minorities back to the days of Jim Crow - that's what they have to lose.
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Donald Trump behaves as a "proto-fascist" and will say anything and do anything to get power. Once he has power you can expect deportation camps (like WWII
with the Japanese) for Mexicans who are being deported en masse back to where they came from. No immigration allowed. Make America Great Again
(translated to make America white again). Buyer beware. This is a fateful election and the outcome will last for many decades.
with the Japanese) for Mexicans who are being deported en masse back to where they came from. No immigration allowed. Make America Great Again
(translated to make America white again). Buyer beware. This is a fateful election and the outcome will last for many decades.
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No, fascism is what the college campus free-speech deniers practice.
Donald Trump believes in free speech.
Quit reading the Soros blogs, they are warping your outlook.
Donald Trump believes in free speech.
Quit reading the Soros blogs, they are warping your outlook.
@osservatore
And does Trump's "free-speech" allow for the insults and racial epithets he's been tossing out without regard?
Hardly presidential behavior.
And does Trump's "free-speech" allow for the insults and racial epithets he's been tossing out without regard?
Hardly presidential behavior.
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You don't seem to have a clue that you can and have discredited yourself with your own free speech. Some people do speak a lot of nonsense very freely, mindless of how it reflects on them.
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While he is no doubt the most appalling candidate they could have picked, let's not forget that DJT, as hideous as he is, is the standard-bearer for an equally hideous Republican platform. Cruz, Rubio, Ryan, et al might be smoother talkers, but the goals are the same.
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We are going to see“the real Donald Trump.” Quick questions... who have we been seeing for the past 14 months? Is the final "real Donald Trump" or we likely to see another version in October? Or January? Just asking.. and if this is the real Donald Trump, who was that look alike on the campaign trail since July 2015?
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we HOPE it doesn't change anything that he reads from teleprompters. BUT we can't be so sure he won't change 'enough' to enough Republicans back in into the fold. And Republicans leaders endorsed the 'original' Trump.
REMEMBER Trump was written off during the primaries. And what a surprise,, he's and our man.
I think you are 'overestimating' the public, sir.
REMEMBER Trump was written off during the primaries. And what a surprise,, he's and our man.
I think you are 'overestimating' the public, sir.
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@elaine
"He's our man"??? .... Not good enough.
As President of the Unite States, you have to be EVERYBODY's man.
And that, he clearly isn't.
"He's our man"??? .... Not good enough.
As President of the Unite States, you have to be EVERYBODY's man.
And that, he clearly isn't.
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Trump remains haunted by his past fear-mongering intolerances and insults -- most of which are at best twisted truths, at worst, complete lies.
So, even if he managed to become a real "truth teller" now, he has become The Boy Who Cried Wolf. That story ends with the boy finally crying out about a real wolf and nobody believing him because of his past lies. With the sheep scattered, an old man tells the boy, "We'll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning," he said, putting his arm around the youth, "Nobody believes a liar...even when he is telling the truth!"
So, even if he managed to become a real "truth teller" now, he has become The Boy Who Cried Wolf. That story ends with the boy finally crying out about a real wolf and nobody believing him because of his past lies. With the sheep scattered, an old man tells the boy, "We'll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning," he said, putting his arm around the youth, "Nobody believes a liar...even when he is telling the truth!"
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HHmmmmm.....interesting, albeit a bit scary campaign logic...Consider:
1.) Historically, the GOP were HUGGGE proponents of "limited federal government" (starve the beast- less butter..more guns & give more control of the little butter that's left to the States)?
2.) It is my understanding that, at present, the GOP controls a significant number of Governorships and corresponding majorities in many of the same State legislatures?
3.) The conditions Mr. Trump describes as deplorable and dangerous currently exist in many of these States and cities controlled by the GOP.
4.) The GOP Congressional leadership wants to further reduce the FED spend on social programs & wants to divert more of the residual available funding to the States
5.) These same leaders support the GOP controlled States aggressive 'voter suppression' campaigns targeting minorities to protect and/or expand their control....above/beyond the district gerrymandering they have already completed.
Bottom Line: Despite Mr. Trump's delusional rhetoric and opportunistic flip-flopping....I am at a total loss to figure out how anyone could not conclude that it will get a lot worse for minorities...faster....should he ever set foot in the Oval Office.
1.) Historically, the GOP were HUGGGE proponents of "limited federal government" (starve the beast- less butter..more guns & give more control of the little butter that's left to the States)?
2.) It is my understanding that, at present, the GOP controls a significant number of Governorships and corresponding majorities in many of the same State legislatures?
3.) The conditions Mr. Trump describes as deplorable and dangerous currently exist in many of these States and cities controlled by the GOP.
4.) The GOP Congressional leadership wants to further reduce the FED spend on social programs & wants to divert more of the residual available funding to the States
5.) These same leaders support the GOP controlled States aggressive 'voter suppression' campaigns targeting minorities to protect and/or expand their control....above/beyond the district gerrymandering they have already completed.
Bottom Line: Despite Mr. Trump's delusional rhetoric and opportunistic flip-flopping....I am at a total loss to figure out how anyone could not conclude that it will get a lot worse for minorities...faster....should he ever set foot in the Oval Office.
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Mr. Obama, you had ONE domestic job: to get the economy moving so people could find work, and you blew it - and it was intentional.
This election gets REAL easy if you need a job. Obama has lost jobs in the U.S. over his time on office, and Hillary is going to follow his attitude about workers gaining independence by working exactly.
The other guy has hired people and has NO problem with poor workers getting jobs and coming out of the welfare system.
If you need a job or a better one, your only choice is Trump.
This election gets REAL easy if you need a job. Obama has lost jobs in the U.S. over his time on office, and Hillary is going to follow his attitude about workers gaining independence by working exactly.
The other guy has hired people and has NO problem with poor workers getting jobs and coming out of the welfare system.
If you need a job or a better one, your only choice is Trump.
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Perhaps if those who profit most from capitalism reinvested the huge sums they collect,and stopped paying subsistence wages to those that they hire,full and part time, then jobs would be more available. As it is now,they have forgotten the Henry Ford maxim of paying your employees enough to be their customers as well. Our neo-liberal policies of the past decades are to blame. Like trickled own economics, it is merely a justification for greed.
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A serious Reagan-sized economic growth period would solve the problem of poor workers having to rely on gov't help - which is what America has always been about.
However, if you simply demand a socialist collective to belong to, you'd be happier in another country.
Do you know twelve people? Averaged out across the country, one of your twelve will be in the top 1% of earners at least once. There is great change among the wealthy people who you have been trained to hate and fear.
People work their way to the top and then things change, and they drop out.
You aren't living in Victorian England, so don't pretend you are.
However, if you simply demand a socialist collective to belong to, you'd be happier in another country.
Do you know twelve people? Averaged out across the country, one of your twelve will be in the top 1% of earners at least once. There is great change among the wealthy people who you have been trained to hate and fear.
People work their way to the top and then things change, and they drop out.
You aren't living in Victorian England, so don't pretend you are.
@osservatore
Have you been sleeping?? -- The economy is doing better now, than when Obama entered Office. And he's managed to steer the country through a pretty bleak recession.
"The other guy" has no problem hiring poor workers at slave wages, and then stiffing them on that.
Maybe you don't really know about Trump in Verona -- but we know his ways too well here in New York.
Have you been sleeping?? -- The economy is doing better now, than when Obama entered Office. And he's managed to steer the country through a pretty bleak recession.
"The other guy" has no problem hiring poor workers at slave wages, and then stiffing them on that.
Maybe you don't really know about Trump in Verona -- but we know his ways too well here in New York.
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When you're between a rock and a hard place...go soft!!! Hardcore Republicans will support this loser no matter how outrageous his rhetoric; so why not apply a little Kellyanne smoke and mirror magic and see if we can confuse minority voters into supporting their oppressor. Just for good measure, let's install Mr. Alt-Right to send a coded message to the white supremacists that everything is on track. Not to worry. Cue Putin to speed-up the Wikileaks in anticipation of the October surprise!!! Is this a nightmare or what?
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Rachael Maddow spent 45 long and painful minutes interviewing Kellyanne Conway last night. I can't remember listening to anyone like her before, anywhere. She is a pretty face with the kind of figure T rump likes and, it seems, an empty head. She kept trying to point out that we just can't judge
T rump on what he has said in the past because, you know he's going to pivot to being someone less vile any minute now.
It is beyond sad that T rump and the republican party have brought the Nation to such a pitiful and low place. Any one who thinks T rump is a solution to anything is just stupid.
T rump on what he has said in the past because, you know he's going to pivot to being someone less vile any minute now.
It is beyond sad that T rump and the republican party have brought the Nation to such a pitiful and low place. Any one who thinks T rump is a solution to anything is just stupid.
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His new team of handlers is applying lipstick on a pig and calling it purty.
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We already have the "real" Donald Trump. The only thing he is hiding is his taxes. Otherwise, he has clearly and consistently demonstrated that he has no bedrock, principles, consistency, moral compass, depth, curiosity, empathy, patience, talent, self-control, spirituality, sophistication, or friends. How ironic that our current President, who was raised very middle class as basically an only child with no father, has so much class. And Trump, who was raised with a silver spoon in his mouth, has no class at all.
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Donald Trump seems like a errant teenage boy going through a difficult time. A constant concern to his parents, barely achieving in school, distant at home, agressive in public-- a constant source of worry. Ah, but he's 70 years old. What might seem a "stage" in a child, seems a case of arrested development in an adult.
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Let's hope we will all miss the Donald Trump punching bag after the election.
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There is no sane reason on earth to hope that anyone should miss that.
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I am reminded of this quote each time I read another article about Donald Trump and his political aspirations:
"Naivete in grownups is often charming; but when coupled with vanity it is indistinguishable from stupidity. "
— Eric Hoffer
"Naivete in grownups is often charming; but when coupled with vanity it is indistinguishable from stupidity. "
— Eric Hoffer
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Wow! We already know who and what Donald Trump is. What I’d like to know is, who’s buying his act?
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Most of the people who read this newspaper are not voting for Trump. Since ensconcing Stephen K. Bannon and Roger Ailes into his camp, suddenly I am seeing more and more media stories about how angry (white) Americans are at the entire system. These are not people who will not pay attention to the political persuasion of those who shipped their jobs to Mexico and Asia. These are people who watch Fox News, check in on Breitbart.com, and who now feel entirely justified in their bigotry because, after all, we have a presidential candidate who espouses all kinds of it.
These are the people that concern me. And the media, most of which are owned by people who care not one whit about this country - and what lies ahead should the unthinkable occur in November - only about the profits they make by their yellow journalism, their race-baiting headlines, their incendiary propaganda, and their greed.
If I were running a campaign against Trump, all I would do is play his hateful words on nearly all subjects over and over and over again. Never forget.
We need all hands on deck to stop this madness. Too much is at stake.
These are the people that concern me. And the media, most of which are owned by people who care not one whit about this country - and what lies ahead should the unthinkable occur in November - only about the profits they make by their yellow journalism, their race-baiting headlines, their incendiary propaganda, and their greed.
If I were running a campaign against Trump, all I would do is play his hateful words on nearly all subjects over and over and over again. Never forget.
We need all hands on deck to stop this madness. Too much is at stake.
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I'm happy to hear that our next President - Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton - is using Maya Angelo's warning in an ad about The Don, "People show you who they are - believe them." The Don is the worst of the lies-fear-hate-anger stupidos. They can try to whitewash him all they want - it won't work. A majority of Americans see the real Don. No thanks.
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Yes indeed reading from teleprompter will not last very long Trump still steers away from all that to lash out with his nonsensical outburst. Kelly Anne his third campaign manager is nonstop talker more like Sarah Palin , does not take a breath and interrupts all and even tries to take it over from the hosts. That can not last very long.
Then early voting is not far away from now it is almost September which is a bit too late for the ones who were offended by Trumps hyperbolic rhetoric.
Then early voting is not far away from now it is almost September which is a bit too late for the ones who were offended by Trumps hyperbolic rhetoric.
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Hate the expression but it fits here so perfectly. "You cannot put lipstick on a pig."
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Amazingly, we are being treated to a full view of what goes on behind the curtain in "crafting the message." Not changing the substance or the intended course of action, mind you, but total focus of the appearance. Such brazenness!
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I see no solid evidence that Trump is a racist it is just the same old accusation that "progressives" make against anyone who doesn't toe their line.
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Guess being called on the carpet with his father for rental discrimination and taking a full page ad against the Central Park Five, found innocent, doesn't count.
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He got sued for race discrimination in housing.
"Where's my African-American?
Mexicans are criminals, drug dealers, rapist.
All blacks are poor, miserable, living in dangerous ghettoes
What in the world is your idea of evidence?
"Where's my African-American?
Mexicans are criminals, drug dealers, rapist.
All blacks are poor, miserable, living in dangerous ghettoes
What in the world is your idea of evidence?
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Solid evidence is not required. Even the slightest hint of racism immediately disqualifies someone to be president of the United States of America.
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Perhaps the most telling comment is Ben Carson's observation that Trump is "'prepping the ground' for talking to minorities by talking to white people about minorities." With "friends" like Carson and Justice Thomas in Trump's corner African Americans hardly need enemies. Who do the Republicans think they are fooling?
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Trump is just pandering to the white extremists who want to deny that his real appeal to them is his open and blatant bigotry and misogyny, repackaged as being "not politically correct."
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Mayors of cities with large populations of African-Americans and other people of color need to hold a press conference or write an op-ed piece about this "veiled" threat by Trump regarding poll watchers. They need to make it very clear that they will not tolerate any intimidation of any voter. They must have police monitoring a significant number of polling stations. And, if such activity transpires, they must make it clear that these so-called poll watchers will be arrested immediately and jailed. America's urban mayors need to speak out, NOW!!!
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In Trump's world, there are two zones, one in which young furred women and old fat, balding men live in towers, another in which black people live in ghettos and shoot each other.
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You're missing the zone where the suckers buy his products and watch his TV shows.
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Trump doesn't know how to "reach out" to anyone. All his life, people have been reaching out to him. His life has been all Trump, all the time. He is the sun around which everyone else revolves. He's never had to ask anyone else for anything--he's used to them coming to him. I doubt his "reaching out" will last long or be successful. He is the only important person in his world, and I doubt that he'll be able to sustain any long-term attempt to appeal to others, particularly because he cannot admit that he needs anything from anyone. He never asks for our vote, he thinks he's entitled to it.
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Too bad the loathsome Trump cannot "speak" from a teleprompter.
He is so obviously reading in a halting and uninflected voice that listening is painful.
Conway and Ballon cannot make a prince out of a sow's ear.
He is so obviously reading in a halting and uninflected voice that listening is painful.
Conway and Ballon cannot make a prince out of a sow's ear.
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What have the Democrats done for African Americans?? Well let's see off the top of my head: Harry Truman integrated the military, Lyndon Johnson gave us the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts (the later being gutted by the Republican Roberts Court), Bill Clinton and his economic policies resulted in a surplus and in millions of minorities (including African Americas) rising out of poverty. Under Obama infant mortality (including among African Americans) is at an all time low in part thanks to programs like Head Start which includes prenatal care (and enacted in 1965 thanks to Johnson). Oh and the Democrats nominated and elected a black man President of the United States...twice. The Democrats managed to put their racist past behind them, the Republicans....they gave a home to the so-called Dixiecrats thanks to Nixon's "southern strategy". Trump ask blacks "what have you got to lose?" Well voting rights for one, health insurance for another and since violent crime is LOWER than at any point in the GWBush presidency and Trump wants nothing to do with gun control they have their lives to lose.
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Trump watches too much TV. Of course, that's where he learns all the stuff he'll need when he's king o' the hill, school yard top bully, I mean president.
The only exercise he gets is in this little thumbs tweeting into cyberspace in the middle of the night probably in his jammies.
There is no real Donald J. Trump other than what you see on your flat screen. He's as real as he's every going to get. As real as reality TV.
The only exercise he gets is in this little thumbs tweeting into cyberspace in the middle of the night probably in his jammies.
There is no real Donald J. Trump other than what you see on your flat screen. He's as real as he's every going to get. As real as reality TV.
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Mr. Donald Trump, psychopathic spewer of lies and hate, regurgitated out of the bowls of the Republican Party is now their nominee for President.
Why Governor Mike Pence, by joining TeamTrump, exhibits his eagerness to become political Worm Chow (with apologies to Evelyn Harper) is of his own understanding.
However, there is a solution for Republican voters:
1). Enter voting booth.
2). Quietly repeat Mr. Charles Dickens lament; "Tis a far, far, better thing I do than I have ever done."
3). Pull lever, as I will abssentee, for Senator Hillary Clinton.
Why Governor Mike Pence, by joining TeamTrump, exhibits his eagerness to become political Worm Chow (with apologies to Evelyn Harper) is of his own understanding.
However, there is a solution for Republican voters:
1). Enter voting booth.
2). Quietly repeat Mr. Charles Dickens lament; "Tis a far, far, better thing I do than I have ever done."
3). Pull lever, as I will abssentee, for Senator Hillary Clinton.
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Trump yesterday during a TV interview: "I think it's really catching on because I see I’m going up very, very sharply with African American voters."
Wholly delusional.
Wholly delusional.
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@mike
Exactly!...Funny how you never see any African-American voters saying the exact same thing.
Exactly!...Funny how you never see any African-American voters saying the exact same thing.
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Dt used Twitter to get out his message of hate but all of his tweets are forever out there in that pie in the sky, the internet.
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Trump's latest blatant racist appeal to Blacks, "what have you got to lose?" is spoken like a true ignorant. Does he really think we've forgotten Trump's long history of racism in his real estate business, in his hiring practices and the things he's spewed out his racist mouth about our beloved President Obama.
Yes we love our president, and we still remember Trump's racist rants against him. Trump stated he had reliable sources that could prove Barack was not an American and that is why he was trying to destroy America. Trump questioned Barack's religious beliefs, called him a potential Muslin, a secret sleeper cell. Trump demanded the president produce his college transcripts, questioning his intelligence. Trump found it incredulous that a dumb guy like Obama could get into Columbia and Harvard. Trump has persecuted President Obama just like Republicans are out to get Hillary.
We support Barack and Hillary not only by their deeds and accomplishments but by the enemies they make. That is how we judge whom to vote for. The people who abhor Barack and Hillary are the most vile racist sexist types one can imagine. They only go to reinforce our belief in Barack and Hillary. The more people like Trump, the Tea Party, Right Wing radio, FOX "NEWS" and the like rail against Democrats, the more we think they must be doing something right.
DD
Manhattan
Yes we love our president, and we still remember Trump's racist rants against him. Trump stated he had reliable sources that could prove Barack was not an American and that is why he was trying to destroy America. Trump questioned Barack's religious beliefs, called him a potential Muslin, a secret sleeper cell. Trump demanded the president produce his college transcripts, questioning his intelligence. Trump found it incredulous that a dumb guy like Obama could get into Columbia and Harvard. Trump has persecuted President Obama just like Republicans are out to get Hillary.
We support Barack and Hillary not only by their deeds and accomplishments but by the enemies they make. That is how we judge whom to vote for. The people who abhor Barack and Hillary are the most vile racist sexist types one can imagine. They only go to reinforce our belief in Barack and Hillary. The more people like Trump, the Tea Party, Right Wing radio, FOX "NEWS" and the like rail against Democrats, the more we think they must be doing something right.
DD
Manhattan
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After a campaign filled with racist remarks and a refusal to address the black organizations, Trump waits until a couple of months before the election to start courting black voters. How stupid does he think black voters are? I think we have identified the stupid party by now.
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Over 93,000 American soldiers were captured and held in German prison camps in Europe during World War Two. Donald Trump doesn't like these veterans. He said he only likes the guys who weren't captured. How is it that more than half the people in the armed services of the United States can support Trump? Someone explain that to me please.
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Ah, the pivot. Lie to the primary voters, tell the truth to general election voters? Tell the truth to primary voters, then lie to general election voters? Whatever truth he thinks they want to hear now. I still cannot get over the number of people who seem to think that this incoherent mess of pandering will somehow coalesce into sensible governing strategy.
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I'm not sure how much more Donald Trump I can take. I'm sated. In his new persona, reaching out to the black and Latino communities, he's on a fools errand. These are canny voters. They heard his denigrations, his insults, his complete ignorance, and they will vote with their feet, they will have the last word by denying him the gold ring he seeks.
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It is a genuine question to ask. Cities with democrat governments have been become worse for the minorities decades after decades. With all of Obama's promises, African Americans are worse off than they were 8 years ago. What would Hillary change? And we she cannot change anything why not try something different.
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"With all of Obama's promises, African Americans are worse off than they were 8 years ago."
Bureau of Labor Statistics and US Census Bureau disagree:
Bureau of Labor Statistics and US Census Bureau disagree:
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The very first step for today's Republicans in talking about a problem in society that they have manifestly ignored is to proclaim that the whole problem is caused, from the beginning and forever, solely by Democratic policies.
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This tack is not coming from the candidate. It is coming from those who see that unless some plausible deniability of overt racism is put forth, the GOP will be fatally branded as the party of Jim Crow in the 21st century. This is damage control from forces who hope to somehow salvage the party after the expected Trump defeat. Trump will realize this and go off-script soon enough.
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So, let me see. Donald Trump is speaking about racism to an audience of white people as a prelude to doing the actual thing, a dry run, so to speak. He does not want to walk into an environment which may be hostile to him. I would say those hostilities are well founded.
As for the living conditions in black neighborhoods, what does this man know about them, or for that matter about a war zone, having not served?
If living conditions for blacks are bad, did he and his father not contribute to it through discrimination in their housing practices? Homes, by the way, which were built with the aid of government funds.
As for the living conditions in black neighborhoods, what does this man know about them, or for that matter about a war zone, having not served?
If living conditions for blacks are bad, did he and his father not contribute to it through discrimination in their housing practices? Homes, by the way, which were built with the aid of government funds.
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Etch-a-sketch comes to mind every time Trump & his team talk about changing the way he talks. Of course, he obviously believes that the middle-class, poor and not-so-white contingencies have etch-a-sketch memories. It would be convenient for him if "those people" only remembered the last thing he said. But obviously the vast majority of "those people" are not mentally etch-a-sketch impaired. And I wonder if I am the only one of "those people" that are insulted by the notion that Trump can just talk away his insults, innuendos and outright bigotry?
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Perhaps Trump is not a racist or xenophobe. Perhaps, he is a realist. Crude and bombastic, but a realist. Illegal immigration has spawned enormous social costs and upheaval, and now offers the added "benefit" of facilitating entry by people who want to harm us. Urban black culture is a cancer upon America, largely the produce of "helping" programs promulgated by Dem administrations. Suggesting that a judge with recent Latino roots might be biased against him in a court case is not racism, it is a distinct possibility. Asking Americans to take personal responsibility and work to solve their own problems, instead of expecting government to "do something about it" is not cruel. He is compassionate. Trump is like the doctor who tells you "lose weight or die", "stop smoking or die", "stop drinking or die", "stop taking meth or die". Very unpleasant to hear, but it is the doctor's job to tell the patient that news.
For all of the "knowledgeable", "erudite", "compassionate" Americans who think Trump is some sort of monster and Hillary is the answer, I have two more adjectives to add to the list to describe you (sorry for ad hominem): "naive" and "moronic".
For all of the "knowledgeable", "erudite", "compassionate" Americans who think Trump is some sort of monster and Hillary is the answer, I have two more adjectives to add to the list to describe you (sorry for ad hominem): "naive" and "moronic".
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@gagner
Actually, "naive" and "moronic" are the exact same words I'd use to describe those who don't realize just what a card-carrying racist Donald Trump is.
Oh -- and there's always that endorsement from the Ku Klux Klan to prove it.
Actually, "naive" and "moronic" are the exact same words I'd use to describe those who don't realize just what a card-carrying racist Donald Trump is.
Oh -- and there's always that endorsement from the Ku Klux Klan to prove it.
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Trump has admitted saying things like: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/29/donald-trump-blacks-lawsuit_n_8...
How is he not being hammered with this stuff? (Or is the Clinton campaign saving it for October? For the debates?)
This guy is a xenophobic racist with a tenuous connection to reality. This is not hyperbole or exaggeration--it is simple fact. Phrasing the choice as one over "temperament" or "qualifications" gives him far too much credit and creates a false equivalence between the candidates.
How is he not being hammered with this stuff? (Or is the Clinton campaign saving it for October? For the debates?)
This guy is a xenophobic racist with a tenuous connection to reality. This is not hyperbole or exaggeration--it is simple fact. Phrasing the choice as one over "temperament" or "qualifications" gives him far too much credit and creates a false equivalence between the candidates.
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After Trump's continuing flip flops on his key campaign promises and rhetoric, I suspect that his supporters (and the media) if they look carefully will find that they have more in common with black voters than they may initially realize. They will find out the they have "been had, been took, been hoodwinked, bamboozled, led astray, run amok" (Apologies to Malcolm X).
This certainly can be the basis for some form of coalition.
This certainly can be the basis for some form of coalition.
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Nothing changes in American politics unless forced by external events, i.e., losing elections.
The Republicans still like the status quo (and dynamic tension) of the '50's. Not all bad. I loved those big, beautiful cars too.
The exception may be the Democrats, who in the early 60's abandoned the working class whites to woo the young and minority voters. They have been playing catch-up for 50 years.
The Republicans still like the status quo (and dynamic tension) of the '50's. Not all bad. I loved those big, beautiful cars too.
The exception may be the Democrats, who in the early 60's abandoned the working class whites to woo the young and minority voters. They have been playing catch-up for 50 years.
So passing the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act is abandoning "working class whites" and not securing justice for citizens who have been wronged by law since the founding of the country? Sheesh.
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The "real Donald Trump" intends to hand over all foreign and domestic matters to his VP.
It only matters what Pence wants. Period. And Pence has no problem with the alt-right world.
The only legitimate stories on Donny are: his tax returns, his finances, what lock-box he's going to put the Trump businesses in, and who his shadow-empire will consist of.
Reporting on all that should consume every moment of every reporter of every newspaper in this country for the next 75 days.
Get on it.
It only matters what Pence wants. Period. And Pence has no problem with the alt-right world.
The only legitimate stories on Donny are: his tax returns, his finances, what lock-box he's going to put the Trump businesses in, and who his shadow-empire will consist of.
Reporting on all that should consume every moment of every reporter of every newspaper in this country for the next 75 days.
Get on it.
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A close friend told me 60 years ago when I was among other things, looking for a life mate, to never commit before meeting their mother, father, siblings. It was very sage advice. In most cases, ones family is a mirror of who they are. Fred Trump proves that in spades. He was a con man, a dedicated racist and a father only Donald Trump could be proud of.
But it doesn't stop there, in his fifty years of business, Donald Trump has left a wide swath of bankruptcy's, failed contracts and a legion of woman that were used, abused and discarded. Without a doubt, Trump is an arrogant con man that only believes in the cult of Donald Trump. The only focus he has is to browbeat and criticize anyone that does not bow to his personal cult. He is an immoral cheat, a crook on a grand scale that exhibits on a daily basis a serous lack of intellect. I want nothing to do with him, I want him out of my life.
But it doesn't stop there, in his fifty years of business, Donald Trump has left a wide swath of bankruptcy's, failed contracts and a legion of woman that were used, abused and discarded. Without a doubt, Trump is an arrogant con man that only believes in the cult of Donald Trump. The only focus he has is to browbeat and criticize anyone that does not bow to his personal cult. He is an immoral cheat, a crook on a grand scale that exhibits on a daily basis a serous lack of intellect. I want nothing to do with him, I want him out of my life.
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When Trump is accurately described as a bigot, a racist, a know-nothing, a liar, a thin-skinned intemperate who cannot control his emotions, Trump just turns around and calls Hillary Clinton the same name. Didn't most of us learn sometime around age 4 or 5 that this was not appropriate ? Didn't we then learn that serious people look down on such know-nothing conduct. Don't the political professionals tell the dim-witted candidate to do this because it focuses the attention on whether the name applies to Mrs. Clinton and not Mr. Trump. Is America so full of people who do not understand that Trump
says things only for effect and not because he means them; and that they are literally creating incredible risk to their own well-being (financial, job, health care, government services, clean air and water, and whether we will be involved in nuclear war) by voting for this person ?
says things only for effect and not because he means them; and that they are literally creating incredible risk to their own well-being (financial, job, health care, government services, clean air and water, and whether we will be involved in nuclear war) by voting for this person ?
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I don't see a dime's bit of difference between Trump's contempt for blacks and other minorities and his contempt for everyone else who is not as rich and successful as he is. The difference is that women and minorities are accustomed to detecting disrespect in both overt language and dog whistles. I wonder if and when his white base will ever catch on to the fact that Trump is just pandering to their fears and legitimate complaints. He doesn't care about them; they only serve to polish his enormous ego. Look at his history. When has he ever showed any desire to assist anyone outside his own family and the beautiful man he sees in his mirror? Trump is the definition of narcissism.
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"You can go to war zones in countries that we are fighting and it’s safer than living in some of our inner cities that are run by the Democrats.” (Because, of course, Democratic mayors are the real problem.)"
Does Trump believe that the problems in small town and rural America - drugs, declining life expectancies, etc. - are caused by the Republicans who are running those places?
Does Trump believe that the problems in small town and rural America - drugs, declining life expectancies, etc. - are caused by the Republicans who are running those places?
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There is a striking similarity between Trump's latest sales pitch and that of Hugo in Luis Buñuel's "Nazarin".
Hugo, a midget, woos Andara to marry him with over the top confessions of love while at the same time reminding her that she is the ugliest creature in the village, incapable of winning any other man's affections. Hugo's is a comically insulting outpouring of ardor.
Being the little man that he is, Trump's attempt to court the minority vote parallels Hugo in almost every way except one: Hugo actually loves Andara.
Hugo, a midget, woos Andara to marry him with over the top confessions of love while at the same time reminding her that she is the ugliest creature in the village, incapable of winning any other man's affections. Hugo's is a comically insulting outpouring of ardor.
Being the little man that he is, Trump's attempt to court the minority vote parallels Hugo in almost every way except one: Hugo actually loves Andara.
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I was born here in Va. many years ago and, after many years of traversing the globe in my work, find I've retired here on a vaster swath of an even larger plantation of the whole of USA than I, in error, thought would, by now, have changed for the better of all human beings. No, it hasn't. To again experience a main-stage production, modern day version, of a 'committee of Euro Americans' spouting (with smiles all around) their even more toxic invidiousness, far exceeding what I heard and saw in my childhood silent wonderment of why I was being treated the way I was, saddens me. "We the people" all should be ashamed of what is being wrought in the preposterous use of this man, Trump, as the lead sheep of a nation of people running, and gaining speed, to a cliff's edge... and over. What is worse is "they" still believe, "we" don't know what "they" are up to, but I assure you, "WE" do. This, I believe, is because so many people still DO BELIEVE that, "... 'tis education forms the common mind... ." It is my hope that Mr. Trump's 'educated' smartness very soon alerts him to the reality that he is now grabbing at straws and the straw he grabbed onto is actually the evil empire's puppeteer string.
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It would nice if Trump had his sheets cleaned and pressed for his racist rallies to come. But the real problem is the way the GOP pretends that it had nothing to do with it.
The real question is no longer Trump.it's whether the GOP or whatever is left after this mess will return to being part of OUR government instead of the anarchist mob lobbing bombs at it.
Maybe some nice Mormon bishop could put a shock collar on Jason Chaffetz to use when he decides to let loose with another McCarthy style hearing and another witch hunt.
When will the GOP grow up and disassociate itself from the lunatic bomb throwers and start working with others in the real world of governance
The real question is no longer Trump.it's whether the GOP or whatever is left after this mess will return to being part of OUR government instead of the anarchist mob lobbing bombs at it.
Maybe some nice Mormon bishop could put a shock collar on Jason Chaffetz to use when he decides to let loose with another McCarthy style hearing and another witch hunt.
When will the GOP grow up and disassociate itself from the lunatic bomb throwers and start working with others in the real world of governance
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Some people say that Trump was offered a membership in the KKK,but he declined when he was informed that he would have to buy his own sheet. Believe me.
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Daniel, I was in Halifax in November, 2008. What an amazing city. Sat in Starbucks there and heard two young women talking about doing voter outreach by téléphone to get Obama elected. Thanks. It worked. Celebrated élection night 2008 in a pub in Montreal with a bunch of drink, happy Canadians. Wish us well, Daniel. This one means even more.
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Rebecca,thanks for the reply! I do love Halifax, and my home in Cape Breton even more. I have to tell you that Trump makes us both appalled and disgusted here. I remind every American I see to vote for the love of country rather than love of party. I can tell the Republicans from the Democrats. The Republicans wince and look uncomfortable. The Democrats agree.
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This outreach to people of color is so transparent that I call it the “Trump Reverse Prism” strategy. He feigns that he is reaching out to people of color, but what comes out on the other side is white light – the vast Middle America that he is actually addressing.
As an Indian-American, I have talked to several of my relatives and colleagues, some of whom are traditionally Republican, about Trump. Not one, not a single one, is voting for Trump – we all believe he is toxic and unworthy of the presidency. The real Donald Trump has revealed himself over the course of the past fifteen months and we believe that he is too flaky to be trusted with the most powerful office in the world. We can’t wait for this election to be over and sanity to prevail.
As an Indian-American, I have talked to several of my relatives and colleagues, some of whom are traditionally Republican, about Trump. Not one, not a single one, is voting for Trump – we all believe he is toxic and unworthy of the presidency. The real Donald Trump has revealed himself over the course of the past fifteen months and we believe that he is too flaky to be trusted with the most powerful office in the world. We can’t wait for this election to be over and sanity to prevail.
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Trump blames Democratic mayors, however, it is usually the policy of the governor of a state that has the most effect on what happens at the local level. Most states have been under GOP control and the press seems to fly right over this point.
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Kellianne Conway is either an ignoranus on history, Americans are, or both. The "new" Trump, reading from a Teleprompter, reminds me of an earlier propaganda effort. That effort, a film made in 1944 to mislead the Swiss Red Cross (it did), was filmed at the Terezin Holding Camp in Czechoslovakia, a/k/a the "Paradise Ghetto. After the deed was done, the inmates were shipped to Auschwitz.
While people voting against their interests for Trump and the GOP will not be snuffed (at least not right away), they would be stupid to buy this line of bull.
While people voting against their interests for Trump and the GOP will not be snuffed (at least not right away), they would be stupid to buy this line of bull.
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Rachel Maddow's interview with Kellieann was the saddest interview I have ever seen. Changed my view of Rachel. She was so thrilled to get the interview that she allowed Kellieann to say whatever she wanted without challenging her. Kellieann was concerned about what negative comments Hillary was going to say about the Donald with no reference to the nasty things he has said about Hillary an continues to say. Watching the interview was a total waste.
So I'm not sure they'll even let Trump in the doors. They'd be dumb to do so.
Ben Carson is being a house maid.
Enough said.
Ben Carson is being a house maid.
Enough said.
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Do you think any Trump supporters get the irony of Trump having to use teleprompters to stay on message, after the extreme right has spent eight years bashing Obama for using teleprompters?
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The recent "change" in Trump's behavior is just the standard American marketing practice of repackaging bad product in flashier box that would hide the content. The marketing principles are the same in selling toilet paper, sugary soda or politicians. As long as the voting masses are semi-literate and brainwashed to be "loyal" to the "brand" this approach will work.
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So the op-ed writers for the Times, and the EB, continue with Trump bashing. Open your eyes, boys and girls, it's another day and time for your anti-Trump inoculation. Just keep reading and don't look at the corruption rampant on the Clinton side of the campaign.
Good strategy. Otherwise, if your readers focused on what a completely corrupt and incompetent candidate the Dems have put up, they might actually have to think -- do I really want to vote for the most corrupt candidate ever (not the most qualified). Of course, if you make the alternative sound like a combo of George Wallace and Adolf Hitler -- regardless of the facts -- then you may succeed at distracting your readers from the facts as they tend to swallow whole whatever you tell them.
But think about it all you bi-coastal progressives who feel so good about yourselves because you are so enlightened -- what have the Democrats done for Blacks? I'll give you LBJ and the civil rights act, but how are all those cities run by Dem machines doing for Blacks? What has Obama done for Blacks?
So scare everyone, Andy, because if HRC and the Dems have to run on their records rather than against Trump the boogie man, the Dems will be in big trouble.
Good strategy. Otherwise, if your readers focused on what a completely corrupt and incompetent candidate the Dems have put up, they might actually have to think -- do I really want to vote for the most corrupt candidate ever (not the most qualified). Of course, if you make the alternative sound like a combo of George Wallace and Adolf Hitler -- regardless of the facts -- then you may succeed at distracting your readers from the facts as they tend to swallow whole whatever you tell them.
But think about it all you bi-coastal progressives who feel so good about yourselves because you are so enlightened -- what have the Democrats done for Blacks? I'll give you LBJ and the civil rights act, but how are all those cities run by Dem machines doing for Blacks? What has Obama done for Blacks?
So scare everyone, Andy, because if HRC and the Dems have to run on their records rather than against Trump the boogie man, the Dems will be in big trouble.
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Trump is not the issue. It is the millions of Americans that love this man. If 30% of your body has cancer you are not doing too well. Welcome to America.
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Since 2010 the GOP-dominated House has done absolutely nothing except pass lots of anti-abortion measures. The 112th, the 113th and now the 114th congress’s, that have endured unceasing obstruction led by Boehner/Ryan in the House and McConnell in the Senate, are the most shameful, lowest rated and least effective in US history. And Trump is saying to vote GOP "because
you have nothing lose"?
you have nothing lose"?
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Trump has reached out to the alt-right through Mr. Bannon and now wants to court people of color as well ? That would be quite an accomplishment to bring them all together under one tent.
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By what authority does Trump plan to have "monitors" at polling stations in November?
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Have we ever had a presidential race like this one? And by that I mean the most qualified candidate in history running against the least qualified?
I just wish we could all vote tomorrow and get this nightmare over with. And shame on ALL the media for perpetuating this endless, divisive slog. Hillary will win, CNN will get big ratings and what will we have accomplished?
I just wish we could all vote tomorrow and get this nightmare over with. And shame on ALL the media for perpetuating this endless, divisive slog. Hillary will win, CNN will get big ratings and what will we have accomplished?
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I only saw snippets of the Trump/Hannity town hall last night, but what I did see was more reminiscent of the Roman coliseum. The crowd was asked to "vote" on whether a President Trump-led US would work with undocumented immigrant families to see if they could remain in our country or whether they should be thrown out. It was disgraceful and disgusting and something that would have embarrassed Jerry Springer. This is what governing looks like? There's so much being written these days on the role of the press and how they should cover Donald Trump and are they being too critical? In my opinion, you're not being nearly critical enough.
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The "real" Donald Trump? Which "real" do we believe? Seventy years of well-documented reality or the stage-managed reality of the coming few fantastical weeks?
www.endthemadnessnow.org
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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We won't ever see the "real" Donald Trump until he puts his tax returns on the table. Nine years' worth, complete and uncensored, just as Hillary Clinton has done. And that's just what he's refusing to do. #NoTaxReturnsNoVotes
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A teenage gang leader sitting in court in an ill-fitting white shirt and too-long tie reciting platitudes rehearsed with his lawyer... is still a teenage gang leader.
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The real Donald Dainty Hands is whatever guise he needs to assume that will close the deal. That is his only ethic, his only anchor. He is like a chameleon is mre ways than one; he also has the soul of a reptile.
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I believe that Donald Trump believes non-whites don't know what's good for them and he only has to soften his message to win their support. But what he doesn't know, and seems incapable of learning, is all they want, and have ever wanted, is Play-Doh.
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I am deafened by his attempts to un-ring his bells
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Donald Trump isn't changing. Mr. Trump's advisors are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the media to obfuscate their client's poor polling numbers. Trump is a political savant who enjoys adoring crowds and "winning" polls. Mr. Trump's hired dirt slingers are cynics, hiding their extreme views behind a mask of maybe yes maybe no, while hoping to disrupt our democracy. No one just "changes" - even a grade C actor/ham like Trump can learn a new role.
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I wonder if the regular reporters at this paper will read and understand the meaning of this article?
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"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
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I was first angered really at Mr. Trump when, out of the blue, he attacked Kim Novak for not looking like some young kid, he was just obnoxious on his reality shows but the attack on Kim got to me. Kim is a great and stately lady in her 80's and I send her the best of wishes to see 100. She looked great and she still does. Mr. Trump did this before he started his campaign and I do hope that Kim is having her a big laugh as Mr. Trump's only crowd is the group that most knowledgeable people refrain from trying to reach.
We cannot allow a misogynist, racist, know nothing isolationist lead America into an abyss.
We cannot allow a misogynist, racist, know nothing isolationist lead America into an abyss.
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We've already seen the real Trump
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He's not trying to get minority votes. He's trying to get whites to think he is not a total racist.
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You can't "pivot" on character or ignorance. It would take a very long time to "pivot" from dealing in conspiracy theories and deliberately false stories, since people don't easily accept the word of a liar again.
Yet one of the changes he's just made has been to hire someone from Breitbart.
Seriously, that's part of a "pivot"?
My only doubt is of the good judgment of the American people, a large number of whom seem just fine with him as he is.
Yet one of the changes he's just made has been to hire someone from Breitbart.
Seriously, that's part of a "pivot"?
My only doubt is of the good judgment of the American people, a large number of whom seem just fine with him as he is.
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His real outreach is not to what we view as "minorities," which aren't so terribly minor these days, but to white voters of every socio-economic class who fear and hate those perceived minorities.
All he/we need to do is hop on a New York City bus or subway and see that we are a rapidly browning nation. All we need to do to see the people who are mostly oblivious to this fact is go to Times Square and where we find lots of white people, maybe not of every socio-economic class, taking selfies and oblivious to a the (for them) scary world beyond a Disnyesque, consultant-created vacation destination.
Nope, the real outreach, or dog whistle, is to the white people who have been napping in the sun and are suddenly reminded it's dinnertime, red meat dinner time.
I think it's time for a new conversation, or maybe just a bigger conversation, about just who has lately tumbled into the category we have labeled, with thick magic marker, MINORITY. I (white person) have seen them and they is us. All of us. Even us (me, white people) who read the New York Times, listen to NPR, and watch PBS. If we that ain't some kind minority, I don't know what is.
All he/we need to do is hop on a New York City bus or subway and see that we are a rapidly browning nation. All we need to do to see the people who are mostly oblivious to this fact is go to Times Square and where we find lots of white people, maybe not of every socio-economic class, taking selfies and oblivious to a the (for them) scary world beyond a Disnyesque, consultant-created vacation destination.
Nope, the real outreach, or dog whistle, is to the white people who have been napping in the sun and are suddenly reminded it's dinnertime, red meat dinner time.
I think it's time for a new conversation, or maybe just a bigger conversation, about just who has lately tumbled into the category we have labeled, with thick magic marker, MINORITY. I (white person) have seen them and they is us. All of us. Even us (me, white people) who read the New York Times, listen to NPR, and watch PBS. If we that ain't some kind minority, I don't know what is.
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Black and Hispanic groups hostile to trump, white middle class groups hostile to Hillary, media jumping on any little story to keep us reading, the serial sexual harasser and fox talking heads advising trump, Hillary pushing her message and getting snowed under by an avalanche of lost emails; OMG is it any wonder so many people watch cat videos?! This election can't end soon enough.
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The Trump real estate empire had a long-standing family tradition of discriminating against Blacks. Trump's father even lied about his background, claiming he was Swedish, not German, in order to sell real estate to Jewish buyers in NY.
The family history of lying and bigotry is more telling than any speech that Kellyanne Conartist writes for hm to read off a teleprompter.
The family history of lying and bigotry is more telling than any speech that Kellyanne Conartist writes for hm to read off a teleprompter.
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This is a cynical ploy not aimed at blacks and Latinos, but at white independents.
Think about it: say Trump wins, but the House remains in GOP hands. Does anyone think Paul Ryan will revise his budget proposal that, right now, will further enrich the wealthy while threatening the livelihoods of middle and lower income families by cutting back Medicare/Medicaid, drastically cutting funding for job and skills training and other policy ideas that are anathema to broad swaths of the population?
Even if the Democrats gain control of the Senate, does anyone honestly believe Trump will be able to "do a deal" with Democratic leadership?
Trump and the GOP are getting in polls only a minuscule portion of the black/Latino/Hispanic vote for a reason: he is a racist demagogue who has belittled the first black President, the entire Latino/Hispanic population and, by the way, treats women as the misognyist he is, when in minority communities, it is the women who are adored and honored.
Utter cynicism.
Think about it: say Trump wins, but the House remains in GOP hands. Does anyone think Paul Ryan will revise his budget proposal that, right now, will further enrich the wealthy while threatening the livelihoods of middle and lower income families by cutting back Medicare/Medicaid, drastically cutting funding for job and skills training and other policy ideas that are anathema to broad swaths of the population?
Even if the Democrats gain control of the Senate, does anyone honestly believe Trump will be able to "do a deal" with Democratic leadership?
Trump and the GOP are getting in polls only a minuscule portion of the black/Latino/Hispanic vote for a reason: he is a racist demagogue who has belittled the first black President, the entire Latino/Hispanic population and, by the way, treats women as the misognyist he is, when in minority communities, it is the women who are adored and honored.
Utter cynicism.
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Trump is simply pure evil and everything about his projected image is a lie.
Show us your tax returns Donald, and your college transcript. I just heard this news flash: Trump sought out undocumented workers to build Trump tower and paid them $4/hour. Anyone who believes in Trump should be grateful our country has some minimal safety net. From Nixon to Trump these folks have voted for people who have betrayed them over and over again.
Show us your tax returns Donald, and your college transcript. I just heard this news flash: Trump sought out undocumented workers to build Trump tower and paid them $4/hour. Anyone who believes in Trump should be grateful our country has some minimal safety net. From Nixon to Trump these folks have voted for people who have betrayed them over and over again.
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The Clintons need to deal w/ the Clinton Foundation mess immediately - this is the issue that could win the election for Trump.
Many have pointed out the work & staff of the Foundation could be folded into another charity - like the Gates charity - & continue its work.
Recent proposals by the Clintons how they'll stop taking foreign contributions - eventually - is shockingly clueless. They should have handed it over to a non-family member before she was running for president. It was inappropriate to be involved in this while S.O.S. - which the Clintons don't 'get'.
Their rap that it's a charity blah blah blah isn't stopping Trump from painting it as a den of corruption they used to line their pockets while she was S.O.S. Don't they realize how awful this sounds? Unfortunately, it doesn't have to be accurate!!! It just needs to sound plausible to people who don't understand the Foundation - people who've heard repeatedly The Clintons receiving millions $$ for speeches. Trump's conflating these things.
The Clintons saying they haven't broken the law. But that's the standard for staying out of jail, not being elected president!
Most people don't get why, while S.O.S, she met w/ rich foreigners who donated millions! It doesn't have to be illegal to look bad/make people question their judgement.
It's stupid she hasn't realized this issue could lose her the election. Who do the Clintons listen to that they continue to coast along in this mess now?
Many have pointed out the work & staff of the Foundation could be folded into another charity - like the Gates charity - & continue its work.
Recent proposals by the Clintons how they'll stop taking foreign contributions - eventually - is shockingly clueless. They should have handed it over to a non-family member before she was running for president. It was inappropriate to be involved in this while S.O.S. - which the Clintons don't 'get'.
Their rap that it's a charity blah blah blah isn't stopping Trump from painting it as a den of corruption they used to line their pockets while she was S.O.S. Don't they realize how awful this sounds? Unfortunately, it doesn't have to be accurate!!! It just needs to sound plausible to people who don't understand the Foundation - people who've heard repeatedly The Clintons receiving millions $$ for speeches. Trump's conflating these things.
The Clintons saying they haven't broken the law. But that's the standard for staying out of jail, not being elected president!
Most people don't get why, while S.O.S, she met w/ rich foreigners who donated millions! It doesn't have to be illegal to look bad/make people question their judgement.
It's stupid she hasn't realized this issue could lose her the election. Who do the Clintons listen to that they continue to coast along in this mess now?
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Yet another tempest in a teapot. They gave money to her charity--not to her. We are to believe that was enough to corrupt her? Tin hat territory, honestly.
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"he will “100 percent” build that wall along the Mexican border."
The reason he is "100% on Tuesday" is that on Monday a very spooky caller into the Glenn Beck show made a very real and very scarey threat to Trump if he backtracked. I think it is so amusing that he put all of these heavily armed nut cases in his party and now is seeing just how dangerous his new play pals are.
The reason he is "100% on Tuesday" is that on Monday a very spooky caller into the Glenn Beck show made a very real and very scarey threat to Trump if he backtracked. I think it is so amusing that he put all of these heavily armed nut cases in his party and now is seeing just how dangerous his new play pals are.
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One look at Trump's FEC filings show that he not really in this it to win it. This "pivot" is just another plate spinning maneuver to catch the eye while he picks another pocket. I predict that Trump will actually make money on this endeavor - or at the very least - break even. A great way to build his brand and launch his pay per view carnival show. While 30% of the GOP doesn't get you elected president, it's a hell of a hit on TV.
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Adviser: You just need to show some feeling for other people.
Trump: I will absolutely show so much feeling for other people, people will be amazed at how much feeling I have. And they will be the best feelings anyone ever had, bar none. They will be the greatest feelings in the history of feelings. And, his is even better, folks, Mexico is going to pay for my feelings. We are going to have my feelings, and they will be the best feelings, and Mexico is going to pay for them. You can bet on it.
Adviser: OK. Um, how about we change your tie.
Trump: I will absolutely show so much feeling for other people, people will be amazed at how much feeling I have. And they will be the best feelings anyone ever had, bar none. They will be the greatest feelings in the history of feelings. And, his is even better, folks, Mexico is going to pay for my feelings. We are going to have my feelings, and they will be the best feelings, and Mexico is going to pay for them. You can bet on it.
Adviser: OK. Um, how about we change your tie.
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Thanks for the morning chuckle. After two Trump articles, I needed one.
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He is what he is. Amazing to see that people expect him to change or be something else with his racist and grifter history. The Donald exemplifies man at his worst.
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The campaign "strategy" is to (a) fake it, and (b) to smear Hillary. It's about faking presidentialality, about trying to obscure Trump being Trump, and throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks -- old tactics. The obvious problem is that we've seen the "real" Trump. Conspicuously demonstrated among his many disqualifiers (e.g. preparation, experience, birther) is that he lies -- continuously. Nope, Kellyanne, you can't put that toothpaste back in the tube.
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Oh my, Trump said he is going to make things better for people of color, women, LGBT, and other minorities. I know Trump is a man of his word with real integrity, I can trust what he now says, what he said earlier was just politics, so I will vote for him. Like he said, what do I have to loose? Life in America is soooo bad (I know because he said it is so; Trump never lies) he can only make it better. Besides, he is rich, so he is better and smarter than me and knows what is good for us.
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The media paints Trump as a bigot and woman hater and we are supposed to be surprised that a poll shows 60 per cent of the public believes he is?
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How is the media responsible for the racist and paranoid rantings that escape from the mouth of Trump? We can hear quite clearly what Trump says on live television. I don't like his message, and it would seem that I'm not alone.
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It may have something to do with listening to what he says, watching what he actually does, and getting a good look at some of the loons supporting him.
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Nobody has to paint him as anything. We just listen to the words that come out of his mouth, or in the case of the media, reprint them. If that's what counts as biased reporting in Trumpland, too bad.
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Let's never forget Trump got his start politically as a birther, and to this day won't acknowledge that President Obama is an American citizen. Trump said his "investigators" were finding "absolutely unbelievable things". So what did they find, Donald?
It doesn't take any great investigations to realize Trump is a despicable odious liar.
It doesn't take any great investigations to realize Trump is a despicable odious liar.
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I actually find the mass of anti-Trump comments on this page reassuring. It tells me the vast majority of NYT readers are biased, in other words, they are the only ones reading this rag. The time to doubt anything political is when people all think the same. These people all share commonality--the inability to escape bias. If I saw more balanced commentary, it would assure me the Times is reaching a broad audience. This audience all sings the same tune. Meaning the NYT is losing relevancy as an objective news source.
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"The time to doubt anything political is when people all think the same."
What simplistic nonsense, and how typical of Trump supporters. I can think of plenty of political positions that a vast majority would support.
What simplistic nonsense, and how typical of Trump supporters. I can think of plenty of political positions that a vast majority would support.
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"Objectivity" isn't necessarily defined by being "balanced" to all sides of an argument - especially when one side is not faithful to the truth. To represent 2 sides as being equal, when they are - based on the facts - not equal is sometimes the problem. Someone has to stand up and say the emperor is naked - not contrast his fashion sense.
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Anyone seduced by the 'managed/scripted' Trump is an idiot. His true colors have been on full display all this past year (and even before in his business dealings over several decades). It is painfully obvious what a loser and con man he is. The zebra doesn't change his stripes and the leopard can't lose his spots. Wake up folks.
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Well said.
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After the Republican 2012 post-mortem, "What the nation got was four more years of escalating racial and social division." One of the most basic lessons in logic is that if B happened after A happened, it doesn't at all prove that A caused B to happen. You can blame the Republicans for a lot things, and they are guilty of them. But this is a false blame. Some of the big cities where the horrible shootings of innocent blacks have been happening, like Chicago, where Rahm Emmanuel covered up a video for a year, have been run by Democrats for ages. Shame, Mr. Rosenthal. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Every once in a while for the past year or so I have to remind myself that all this is really happening.
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"What have you got to lose?"
Two things immediately come to mind:
(1) Your vote. GOP state legislatures and Trump are advancing a two-pronged program of characterizing the urban minority vote as fraudulent, then enacting rules to prevent those voters from exercising that right.
(2) A decent chance at consistent, preventive health care.
Two things immediately come to mind:
(1) Your vote. GOP state legislatures and Trump are advancing a two-pronged program of characterizing the urban minority vote as fraudulent, then enacting rules to prevent those voters from exercising that right.
(2) A decent chance at consistent, preventive health care.
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Even with the teleprompter Il Trumplini speaks like a pre-teen. He has this tick of repeating words numerous times in order for emphasis, saying 'believe me, believe me'.
Now it is about a special prosecutor to look into Clinton immediately, immediately, immediately.
How on earth did this guy who definitely is suffering from a learning disabilty - among other more serious mental illnesses - ever graduate from high school?
Now it is about a special prosecutor to look into Clinton immediately, immediately, immediately.
How on earth did this guy who definitely is suffering from a learning disabilty - among other more serious mental illnesses - ever graduate from high school?
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Money, lots of it.
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Good article, though you characterize the Trump pivot as hard to believe. I don't use the word believe when talking about Trump, for he has brought the use of language to a new level. Characterization of speech as truthful or deceitful is a norm that applies to most people, but not Trump. He has such wanton disregard for the essential nature of words, that their utterance be in some way connected to a semblance of reality, that he leaves the English lexicon wanting. To measure the truth of Trump's words is to measure time with a ruler. Wrong tool.
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What kind of fools believe in anything that is spoken by any person - a political candidate, Democrat or Republican, a friend, partner, relative or business associate, who keeps changing their story? What does it matter? If Trump has changed his story 20 times, we are now supposed to believe version 21?
What a terrible situation we, as voters, have allowed to occur here. This is almost as bad as "Sophie's Choice".
The way I see it is this: Hillary would steal your wallet. When confronted, she would lie about it. Trump would steal your life savings. When confronted, he would lie about it, sue you for slander, then burn your house down.
One interesting side note about this election is that Trump has completely ruined his legacy. The vast majority of Americans now understand something that they probably didn't care enough to understand before - that Trump is a complete phony, started out extremely wealthy, cheated and hurt a lot of people to get what he wanted. He is a public embarrassment.
So there's your choice. Like most of America, I'm not voting for Hillary. I'm voting for the one that's not Trump.
What a terrible situation we, as voters, have allowed to occur here. This is almost as bad as "Sophie's Choice".
The way I see it is this: Hillary would steal your wallet. When confronted, she would lie about it. Trump would steal your life savings. When confronted, he would lie about it, sue you for slander, then burn your house down.
One interesting side note about this election is that Trump has completely ruined his legacy. The vast majority of Americans now understand something that they probably didn't care enough to understand before - that Trump is a complete phony, started out extremely wealthy, cheated and hurt a lot of people to get what he wanted. He is a public embarrassment.
So there's your choice. Like most of America, I'm not voting for Hillary. I'm voting for the one that's not Trump.
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I am noticing in the comments an increased mean-spiritedness. While I want to join in with those calling Trump names, at the same time it makes me a bit uneasy that we are lowering our arguments into the type of arguments that Trump himself uses. Also, one comment refers to uneducated white men as "goons." The entire group is painted with the same brush. This, too, is not our best. While many in that category follow Trump, not all do, and so we have to be careful to not be as ignorant as those who want to categorize "others" as all bad, as all suspect. After all, isn't this partly why we depise Trump and his ideas?
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Trump is not the answer, but what are the Democrats saying about poverty, and where is the urban policy hinted at for five decades. There is enough ignoring of inner city and afro-american issues for both parties to absorb lots of blame
This surreal Trump campaign is reminiscent of the sad tale of Dr. Faustus, except that Faustus, played by Trump, has no soul to bargain. The fun part was the good angel (now played by Conway) confronting the bad angel (now played by Bannon). So now, is the play by Marlowe metaphor for the Trump campaign, or is it vice versa?
How insulting can Trump get toward minorities. After throwing racist taunts and demeaning language at them the whole campaign, he now thinks by changing his language he can mend those fences. He assumes they are as dumb as he thinks they are.
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The sad issue with Trump is he really believes what he is saying is true and that everyone else does too. If he says one thing then ten minutes later he contradicts himself the statements are both correct.
Very sick, there is no real Trump.
Very sick, there is no real Trump.
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I am curious as to how his current supporters will react to his admission at some point that the wall will not be built and Mexico will not be paying for it. He loses all electricity (such as it is) when he sticks to teleprompter remarks. He may lose some supporters in trying to gain new ones.
The stick-to-the-teleprompter was no doubt the price paid for campaign dollars. If Trump was for real, surely he would have rejected the money?
The stick-to-the-teleprompter was no doubt the price paid for campaign dollars. If Trump was for real, surely he would have rejected the money?
Fair or not when I see a Trump sign in your yard, I assume you are a bigot. Trump is under prepared, ill tempered, thriving on the fear some white individuals have of changing demographics. He remains in his golden tower, returning home most nights on his private jet embolden by crowds that seem clueless that Trump seems to relate only to himself. Now he has been forced to tie himself to a teleprompter, where he can attempt to read someone else's words. It is up to us to be discerning enough to know that we have already seen the real Donald long before this election. Words are cheap.
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The only ones who are fooled are those who are already supporting him. Nobody else is fooled. My guess is that this effort is not genuinely aimed at any minority group, but rather at independent and Republican voters who would vote for DT if the ranting and racism were toned down, put back in the closet. It's a cover for those people.
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Trump followers who drink his kool-aid, hateful bigoted rhetoric have not even stopped to consider the damage he is doing to America and how he has hurt so many of their fellow Americans. People like themselves who would die for this country. Trump has no principles or ideas he has simply run a slash and burn campaign demeaning people, spitting, scratching, playing dirty and now he wants everyone including Blacks and Hispanics to forget about what he has said and done. Never. Trump will debase and cheapen the office of the presidency. My nuclear family has five voters who happen to be of Hispanic heritage and not a one is voting for Trump.
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It is rare to actually see a real person that so acutely represents the trailing edge of humanity. Yet, Trump's supporters say they adore him because he is one of them. Indeed, so he is.
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Near the end of his life, Martin Luther King Jr realized that poor people shared a common source of their plight, regardless of race or ethnicity. The same system of wealthy and powerful conservatives was that source. Trump is the perfect representative of those oppressors.
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In America most of us have been taught from an early age, if you can not be taken for your word, then every other action you take or utterance you've make, could be viewed as possibly tainted. I think for the average guy, the willingness of Mr Trump to say anything to anyone for an effect, without the slightest regard for the truth, is simply confusing. And Trump's recent attempt to modify his previous tendency to simply say anything that occurs to him at the moment, regardless of the truth (or sensitivities of the victim of his outbursts) is only making it doubly confusing; and in the long run will only make it harder for Trump's supporters to justify their faith in this master charlatan.
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Once again Trumps racism, disconnect, meanness and tone deafness manages to insult everyone.
His insult to blacks in his paternalistic and unbelievable speech to his white audience is too blatant to need comment.
The comment of Ben Carson that he needs to start to get his "new" and totally hypocritical "message" across in front of white audiences because black audiences would be too "hostile" says it all.
His aside about how "in many cases Hispanics are living" the same horrible life of drugs and homelessness of blacks, manged to get the Hispanic population in on his insults.
And the fact that many realize that he knows all too well that people of color are much too sophisticated to fall for a last minute damage control "some of my best friends" pitch, and so is actually trying to appear more reasonable and less racist to "middle class white suburban voters" manages to insult the intelligence of a very large constituency indeed.
He cannot help himself. And it appears he and the staff he has surrounded himself with, and his speech writers are on the same page. None of them should be anywhere near a serious Presidential campaign.
They are all hate filled idiots. The worst kind.
His insult to blacks in his paternalistic and unbelievable speech to his white audience is too blatant to need comment.
The comment of Ben Carson that he needs to start to get his "new" and totally hypocritical "message" across in front of white audiences because black audiences would be too "hostile" says it all.
His aside about how "in many cases Hispanics are living" the same horrible life of drugs and homelessness of blacks, manged to get the Hispanic population in on his insults.
And the fact that many realize that he knows all too well that people of color are much too sophisticated to fall for a last minute damage control "some of my best friends" pitch, and so is actually trying to appear more reasonable and less racist to "middle class white suburban voters" manages to insult the intelligence of a very large constituency indeed.
He cannot help himself. And it appears he and the staff he has surrounded himself with, and his speech writers are on the same page. None of them should be anywhere near a serious Presidential campaign.
They are all hate filled idiots. The worst kind.
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The "real" Donald Trump has already revealed himself.
And no script-change, ot teleprompter will alter the fact that he is a certifiable racist, whose only interest is himself.
Any attempts to connect with the African-American community were vanquished months ago, all invitations Mr. Trump received to speak at Black organizations were turned-down, and since then no further attempts have been made...until now.
The entire pitch and tone of the Trump campaign has been studiously geared toward White people, whether wealthy, or poor, college-educated, or not -- and proof of this lies in the photographs of those attending his rallies, where often the only persons of color to be seen, are in his security detail.
We've already seen the real Donald Trump.
There's nothing to get "ready" for.
And no script-change, ot teleprompter will alter the fact that he is a certifiable racist, whose only interest is himself.
Any attempts to connect with the African-American community were vanquished months ago, all invitations Mr. Trump received to speak at Black organizations were turned-down, and since then no further attempts have been made...until now.
The entire pitch and tone of the Trump campaign has been studiously geared toward White people, whether wealthy, or poor, college-educated, or not -- and proof of this lies in the photographs of those attending his rallies, where often the only persons of color to be seen, are in his security detail.
We've already seen the real Donald Trump.
There's nothing to get "ready" for.
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Trump is in his element when he is the reality TV star, not in the political arena.
Case in point: On Sean Hannity's show last night, he asked the audience to weigh in on his immigration policy (which has swung wildly from extremely nativist actions to a more measured one that panders to those Republican voters who are concerned with his angry blustering). Could you imagine any other presidential candidate treating an immigration policy like a game show? And that is the real Donald Trump - he's an entertainer, not a serious candidate for the most powerful office in the world. But far worse, he's not a benign entertainer. He's a malignant one, spewing out invectives and lies and then being pulled back by Conway to indicate he has regrets (nothing specific) but no apologies. That's the real Donald Trump.
Case in point: On Sean Hannity's show last night, he asked the audience to weigh in on his immigration policy (which has swung wildly from extremely nativist actions to a more measured one that panders to those Republican voters who are concerned with his angry blustering). Could you imagine any other presidential candidate treating an immigration policy like a game show? And that is the real Donald Trump - he's an entertainer, not a serious candidate for the most powerful office in the world. But far worse, he's not a benign entertainer. He's a malignant one, spewing out invectives and lies and then being pulled back by Conway to indicate he has regrets (nothing specific) but no apologies. That's the real Donald Trump.
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Soliciting voter opinions on important matters is less, somehow, than pandering to large contributors?
Is that what you mean to say (mean-spirited wording or not)?
Why do you think that would be wrong? Is it wrong to ask for it? Is it wrong to be influenced by it?
Should policy only be affected by people in campaign-financed focus groups or the fabled smoke-filled back rooms and we should simply accept it because wealthier, more powerful people with vested interests are not to be challenged?
Really? I don't see anything wrong with asking for opinions. I suspect your motives.
Is that what you mean to say (mean-spirited wording or not)?
Why do you think that would be wrong? Is it wrong to ask for it? Is it wrong to be influenced by it?
Should policy only be affected by people in campaign-financed focus groups or the fabled smoke-filled back rooms and we should simply accept it because wealthier, more powerful people with vested interests are not to be challenged?
Really? I don't see anything wrong with asking for opinions. I suspect your motives.
The so called Trump pivot would at the very least be hugely farcical were it not so obviously and bluntly delusional and utterly disingenuous. No surprise given the source.
Does the Trump inner circle and the GOP machine actually believe that the most insulted and denigrated targets of the Donald’s wild-hair rhetoric, Hispanics, African Americans, minorities in general and of course American women, are so gullible and short of memory as to be swayed by an appeal as ridiculous as, “…and I say it with such a deep-felt feeling. What do you have to lose?”
The level of insult is beyond the pale of even this most dysfunctional presidential election in our modern history.
Does the Trump inner circle and the GOP machine actually believe that the most insulted and denigrated targets of the Donald’s wild-hair rhetoric, Hispanics, African Americans, minorities in general and of course American women, are so gullible and short of memory as to be swayed by an appeal as ridiculous as, “…and I say it with such a deep-felt feeling. What do you have to lose?”
The level of insult is beyond the pale of even this most dysfunctional presidential election in our modern history.
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I get tired of Republicans and Trump blaming Democrats for the urban blight. Here's how to help all Americans: bring back jobs to America. Level the playing field for Americans and everyone else. Don't give tax breaks to move jobs overseas. Don't give tax breaks or subsidies to all the major ports. Make the owners of these ports pay for widening and deepening and maintaining ports. They will pass the cost on to buyers of imported goods. This will make American-made goods more competitive. Require foreign made goods to meet sustainable environment requirements.
All of us Americans can force the CEOs to listen to us. Buy American-made goods and services; buy local and sustainable goods. It works. Proof? McDonalds is switching to more natural foods. Tyson and Perdue are moving to growing chickens without antibiotics. Walmart is rapidly expanding organic foods in their grocery stores.
Finally, there's an infrastructure that needs rebuilding and regulations that need to be followed. Rebuilding a highway but allowing ever increasing sizes of trucks (longer, wider, or heavier) will just tear the roads up sooner.
Americans who work shouldn't have to be subsidized by the American taxpayer. If a Walmart worker is getting food stamps or subsidized health care from the taxpayer, the state or federal government should submit the bill to Walmart to pay the difference. This will get American companies to pay a living wage.
All of us Americans can force the CEOs to listen to us. Buy American-made goods and services; buy local and sustainable goods. It works. Proof? McDonalds is switching to more natural foods. Tyson and Perdue are moving to growing chickens without antibiotics. Walmart is rapidly expanding organic foods in their grocery stores.
Finally, there's an infrastructure that needs rebuilding and regulations that need to be followed. Rebuilding a highway but allowing ever increasing sizes of trucks (longer, wider, or heavier) will just tear the roads up sooner.
Americans who work shouldn't have to be subsidized by the American taxpayer. If a Walmart worker is getting food stamps or subsidized health care from the taxpayer, the state or federal government should submit the bill to Walmart to pay the difference. This will get American companies to pay a living wage.
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There is only one race and that is the human race.
Every American wants and needs fair access to college education, affordable health care, a fair minimum wage , equal pay irrespective of gender , an Infrastucture that works for them, their children and grandchildren.
Renewable energy investment and so on.
The point is that the Clinton proposals work better for most Americans, Trump has no such policies.
To drive America forward we need a Demicratic congress and President and then hold their feet to the fire.
All we need to do is to get out and vote in November.
Every American wants and needs fair access to college education, affordable health care, a fair minimum wage , equal pay irrespective of gender , an Infrastucture that works for them, their children and grandchildren.
Renewable energy investment and so on.
The point is that the Clinton proposals work better for most Americans, Trump has no such policies.
To drive America forward we need a Demicratic congress and President and then hold their feet to the fire.
All we need to do is to get out and vote in November.
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Reading what Trump's latest ploy is has become a pointless, tiresome waste of time. He is who he is, and that's sufficient reason to elect Clinton as president. But she's also very smart, experienced and cares about the details of issues and the realistic, functional solutions for them. I simply ignore the conspiracy theories about her and those who promote them. I don't trust them...I do trust her.
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The real Trump will be found in the New York Times.
Where is the real Hillary found?
Where is the real Hillary found?
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Hillary will be on the campaign trail talking about actual issues. After Novembers' election, she will be in the Oval Office.
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Despicable Don is a narcissistic sociopath, pathological liar, and sleazy con artist. Why would anyone believe anything that comes out of his mouth? Just because he reads a speech that sounds good, he is what he is and that's never gonna change. Everyone understands that. He might as well close up shop and go back to his glorified hide out. Stick a fork in him, he's so done.
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One manages the behavior of children. A child should not be president of the United States.
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Trump's best offer to all whom he has spewed venom upon: "What do you have to lose?" Can anybody be that (in Trump's words professing love for a segment of voters) "poorly educated"?
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Ah the lose of critical thinking and intellectual debate in the modern world--everybody argues with the drama and bias of a teenager...
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The people who like Trump now will vote for him no matter what comes out of his mouth. The people who will sit still and listen to his slightly less offensive speeches will vote for him because they really don't want to vote for Hillary Clinton -- or any woman.
Getting the men -- and not a few of their little women -- who don't want a female for president to consider that Trump is really not so bad is what this move is all about.
I'm a little worried.
Getting the men -- and not a few of their little women -- who don't want a female for president to consider that Trump is really not so bad is what this move is all about.
I'm a little worried.
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Trump is not interested in the middle and working class people of America. Nor is he particularly interested in or knowledgeable about African Americans. He wants the votes and after that, if he wins, it's anyone's guess as to what he'll do in office. As a white, Jewish, lesbian American with a college education I resent the insults he's tossed around about my fellow Americans. I resent the way he's characterized Muslims, Mexicans, and everyone else that doesn't fit his ideal American. As a human being I wonder how any thinking person can say such awful things about others, many of whom he's never even dealt with in his daily life.
If the appellation of loser is applied to anyone it ought to be Donald Trump. If he were a respectful opponent I'd disagree with him but I could understand him. If he didn't say things about Second Amendment people in conjunction with judges and Clinton among others I might consider him a worthy candidate. We should be insulted that the GOP has foisted such a specimen upon us as presidential material. He is not and they are fools.
If the appellation of loser is applied to anyone it ought to be Donald Trump. If he were a respectful opponent I'd disagree with him but I could understand him. If he didn't say things about Second Amendment people in conjunction with judges and Clinton among others I might consider him a worthy candidate. We should be insulted that the GOP has foisted such a specimen upon us as presidential material. He is not and they are fools.
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I don't think Trump is trying to reach out to minority voters.
I think he is trying to reach out to white voters who may be put off by his sounding too nasty to them.
What he is saying is aimed at white prejudices and stereotypes, not the reality of the lives of black voters. That isn't a mistake, that is his method.
Along the way, he may break into a couple of black votes, because almost no opinion is agreed on by 97% of anybody. There are more than that doubting the Moon Landing.
I think he is trying to reach out to white voters who may be put off by his sounding too nasty to them.
What he is saying is aimed at white prejudices and stereotypes, not the reality of the lives of black voters. That isn't a mistake, that is his method.
Along the way, he may break into a couple of black votes, because almost no opinion is agreed on by 97% of anybody. There are more than that doubting the Moon Landing.
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Well reasoned argument, Mr Rosenthal, but at times I really do wonder what has the democratic party done to really improve the impoverished communities that many African-American and minorities reside? Jake Kemp, a Republican, had a wonderful plan to help minorities. A plan and an idea that would have made it a lot easier for poor citizens to own the property they were renting. He went before the Democratic Congress whose first response was to cut his proposed budget by half...and then by two-thirds...and finally the whole proposal and plan never saw a single penny. Don't blame the entire Republican party for promises the democrats have never implemented. Donald Trump was a democrat, once not all that long ago, and so many loving democratic politicians had no problem taking his money...including the wonderful, unsoiled, Hillary Clinton.
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The only thing that Democrats have failed to do in poor urban communities is to end the ruinist Nixonian "War on Drugs". You end the drug war, the killing will stop, and the prosperity will begin. However, this would harm the wealth of the affluent.
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@Joe S.,
Donald Trump only pretended to be a Democrat in predominantly Liberal New York City, because that was best for his business. Now he pretends to be a champion of the neglected white under-educated male population because that gets him votes, and he appears to be doing a good job of that by pandering to their prejudices and fears. Unfortunately that meant estranging any other groups from him. And now Blacks, Hispanics, women, the disabled and Muslims all see through his attempts at pandering to them, after all the insults he aimed at them. This new pandering may well lose him votes among his original base. A lose-lose situation if there ever was!
Donald Trump only pretended to be a Democrat in predominantly Liberal New York City, because that was best for his business. Now he pretends to be a champion of the neglected white under-educated male population because that gets him votes, and he appears to be doing a good job of that by pandering to their prejudices and fears. Unfortunately that meant estranging any other groups from him. And now Blacks, Hispanics, women, the disabled and Muslims all see through his attempts at pandering to them, after all the insults he aimed at them. This new pandering may well lose him votes among his original base. A lose-lose situation if there ever was!
Interesting, Anna. I am not saying Mr. Trump is without many flaws and I don't see myself voting for him. Personally, I was for Senator Rubio and I am very disappointed that he was pushed out of the primaries by a loud mouth bully like Mr. Trump. I personally feel that the democrats, who very often take for granted the minority vote, have done very little over the past fifty years to have automatically earned that vote. The Republicans had a field of seventeen candidates...properly the most diverse field ever assembled. Two candidates of Cuban descent, a woman, a prominent black neurosurgeon, a candidate married to a Mexican American woman, and the first Indian born American to run for President. Sadly, the least intelligent candidate won by a landslide.
When Trump surrogates are speaking, I have to mute my TV, to preserve my emotional health. Such venom and mendacity reveal who they all really are. I've always been a Democrat, but respect an unbiased, clear-headed Republican argument by intelligent, well-meaning women and men. Where have they all gone? The arguments about the Clintons and the Democrats are superficial and filled with lies--it's as if they know they're lying and lie anyway. Mute their rhetoric, literally and figuratively.
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As we saw time and time again, Trump said whatever he thought he needed to say to whatever audience he had during primary season in order to win the Republican primary. Build a wall, stop immigration, ban Muslims, ....whatever.
Now that he won the primary, as we are seeing in real time, Trump is now saying whatever he thinks he needs to say to whatever audience he has during this ongoing general election season, in order to win the Presidential ticket. Don't build a wall, encourage immigration, welcome Muslims, ....whatever.
If by chance Trump wins the Presidency, Trump will flip flop along, year after year, finger to the wind, on each and every issue that drops on his desk.
The only standard Trump lives by is: say whatever you think you need to say in order to get what you want. Trump has zero fixed principles. There is nothing - no fundamental truths, no foundation of beliefs - on which he stands firmly, resolutely, and without question. Trump has no moral compass and no character, and is incapable of rational thought and analysis.
While millions of Americans will vote for Trump, many more millions of Americans will vote for Hillary. And it is very, very unfortunate that Republicans could not see through the Trump blather and vote for Kasich during primary season.
Imagine how much fun it would have been having two knowledgeable folks like Kasich and Clinton going at it debate after debate on foreign policy, national debt, economic policies, immigration....
Now that he won the primary, as we are seeing in real time, Trump is now saying whatever he thinks he needs to say to whatever audience he has during this ongoing general election season, in order to win the Presidential ticket. Don't build a wall, encourage immigration, welcome Muslims, ....whatever.
If by chance Trump wins the Presidency, Trump will flip flop along, year after year, finger to the wind, on each and every issue that drops on his desk.
The only standard Trump lives by is: say whatever you think you need to say in order to get what you want. Trump has zero fixed principles. There is nothing - no fundamental truths, no foundation of beliefs - on which he stands firmly, resolutely, and without question. Trump has no moral compass and no character, and is incapable of rational thought and analysis.
While millions of Americans will vote for Trump, many more millions of Americans will vote for Hillary. And it is very, very unfortunate that Republicans could not see through the Trump blather and vote for Kasich during primary season.
Imagine how much fun it would have been having two knowledgeable folks like Kasich and Clinton going at it debate after debate on foreign policy, national debt, economic policies, immigration....
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The only good thing about Trump is that he has a record of disparaging the laws and institutions of this country. It's all about his own self-aggrandizement. So, if he conned a bunch of bubbas into thinking that he was on their side, they weren't looking too hard at him, because the rest of the GOP, Kasich aside, was a joke. Kasich the only decent candidate lost because he was mildly pragmatic in Ohio. If we think the primary purpose of a political party is to nominate a person who is fit to be President the GOP has failed us profoundly and damaged us in the short term.
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reporter to Trump: When are you going to pivot?
Trump to reporter: I think we made a stop in pivot late last year but I'm not sure, but believe me, we're going to see the great people of pivot and have a huuuuuge rally!
Trump to reporter: I think we made a stop in pivot late last year but I'm not sure, but believe me, we're going to see the great people of pivot and have a huuuuuge rally!
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Best comment of the day. Thank you.
Donald Trump has no policy prescriptions for African-Americans becuase the Republican Party has no policy prescripitons for anyone. I challenge you to name one Republican policy promoted or passed ove the last ten years that actually helps working people. For the life of me, I cannot!
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So Jason Miller was working for fake Donald, the grifter? Now, the real one? Standards in that campaign do not exist. Will the real Donald, the grifter, finally emerge? Does not matter. The real Donald, the grifter, is unfolding before your eyes and remains the same. A grifter.
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If Trump should be elected President of the United States of America and becomes the supreme commander, what persona will he adopt?
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Trump likely will have a splendid uniform made with lots of gold braid and many medals. The personal he will adopt is that of any tin horn dictator.
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Which Clinton Donor will have the most influence on the commander in chief if it's Hillary.
The one described in the article under this link perhaps?
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a...
And he professed admiration for Putin and Kim Young Un too.
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a...
And he professed admiration for Putin and Kim Young Un too.
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Personally, I think Mr. Trump is actually scared to death at the thought of going into minority communities. I think his attitudes towards minorities is born from bone rattling fear. His bigotry stems from that fear. Ergo he invites a few leaders from the minority community to visit him in "Trump Tower".
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A Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted this month showed that 60 percent of Americans think Trump is biased against women and minorities. It's the other 40% I worry about. White voters are sticking their heads in the sand and watching too much Fox News. Ignorance and indifference is not a defense for supporting a totally unqualified candidate to be President.
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His supporters think he's great and think we are the fools. Same as it ever was.
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"Trump would actually set foot in 'churches, charter schools and small businesses in black and Latino communities.' "
[sarcasm] Oh.My.God. Can this be true? Is the Great Man really willing to go forth and honor the little people with his presence? To enter their hovels, devoid of gold flatware and designer clothing, and pass close to (but not touch) their grimy offspring? It makes the heart go pitter-pat. [/sarcasm]
[sarcasm] Oh.My.God. Can this be true? Is the Great Man really willing to go forth and honor the little people with his presence? To enter their hovels, devoid of gold flatware and designer clothing, and pass close to (but not touch) their grimy offspring? It makes the heart go pitter-pat. [/sarcasm]
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"Trump would actually set foot in 'churches, charter schools and small businesses in black and Latino communities.' "
I think it's hard for him do go this route. He's been booking auditoriums and arenas for his "speeches" up to this point and expected people to come to him. Going out into the world means he cant bill the event to his campaign, so he will not be able to get his "cut" off the proceedings. I mean, if he can't make any money, what's the point of running for office?
I think it's hard for him do go this route. He's been booking auditoriums and arenas for his "speeches" up to this point and expected people to come to him. Going out into the world means he cant bill the event to his campaign, so he will not be able to get his "cut" off the proceedings. I mean, if he can't make any money, what's the point of running for office?
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How can the real Donald Trump be the one who reads a prepared speech, and the faux Donald Trump be the one who speaks extemporaneously from the heart.
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Reading the New York Times probably gave Donald Trump the impression that all minorities reside in poverty-plagued neighborhoods that resemble war zones. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 31.6 million white Americans and 10.8 million black Americans live below poverty level. Of the whites who live below poverty level, 19.7 are non-Hispanic and 13.1 million are Hispanic. But one would never know this if the news media were their only source of information.
Source: Page 13, Income and Poverty in the United States: 2014, U.S. Census Bureau. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo...
Source: Page 13, Income and Poverty in the United States: 2014, U.S. Census Bureau. https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2015/demo...
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Here in Indiana it is very telling where Trump/Pence put their office - Carmel - Hamilton County- a not very racially diverse suburb of Indianapolis- where there is essentially no public transportation and subsidized housing is pretty much non existent. Hillary's office is located in Indianapolis/Marion County in a racially and economically diverse area, accessible by bus.
The location of these offices seems to symbolize what each party represents.
The location of these offices seems to symbolize what each party represents.
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Just watch... Trump is like a political chameleon. He will change with the seasons or his current environment. When you have no values, no ethics, no nothing except winning at any cost, it's easy to change your political "suit" every day. And...
Trump is going to find just enough Americans to buy into his jingoistic, nationalistic ways, just by tweaking ("softening" ha ha) his ways enough that different groups will hear his message in different ways. Taxes? Who cares, right?
Especially with a weakened Hillary refusing to stand before the press and basically do a "Trump" herself to "soften" the controversial issues dogging her.
Trump is going to find just enough Americans to buy into his jingoistic, nationalistic ways, just by tweaking ("softening" ha ha) his ways enough that different groups will hear his message in different ways. Taxes? Who cares, right?
Especially with a weakened Hillary refusing to stand before the press and basically do a "Trump" herself to "soften" the controversial issues dogging her.
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@IN
Trump will have a hard sell to all the communities that he has managed to malign during the course of his campaign -- And that's a vast amount of the electorate including; Women, African-Americans, LGBT, Latinos, U.S. Military, Disabled, etc. etc.
They won't buy into whatever jingo he's selling.
Trump will have a hard sell to all the communities that he has managed to malign during the course of his campaign -- And that's a vast amount of the electorate including; Women, African-Americans, LGBT, Latinos, U.S. Military, Disabled, etc. etc.
They won't buy into whatever jingo he's selling.
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Love your columns. But on an unrelated note...Say "Hi" to your brother Jonathan for me. I went to Wagner Junior High with him many years ago. We had a homeroom teacher who used to electrocute us if we got too many "demerits." Your brother never had to undergo that minor torture but alas I did. I wonder what would happen to that teacher today. But that's what happens when you make a junior high shop teacher a homeroom teacher for a bunch of smart 13- and 14-year olds. Enjoy this election season! It's one of a kind. [email protected]
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The real problem is not Trump. He would not be the candidate if millions of voters did not support him. That is the real long term problem. The country is paranoid. We recognize that that we are losing our grip as the only leader of the world.
We are not “One nation, with liberty and justice for all.” We are less focused on competing with the rest of the world than we are focused on competing with our fellow countrymen. We are losing our stature on the world stage. This has provided an opening for the remainder of the world to catch up and take more of a leadership role.
The country is more politically divided than it has been for generations. The wrestling match within the country revolves around how do we keep our world dominance. The GOP, believes we can bully our way back to dominance and implement an austerity program geared towards the working class and poor. The Democrats are not addressing the problem at all but rather want to buy their popularity with programs and no means of paying for them.
No one is thinking long term. The United States was not a world power 1900. It was a nation made up of people with roots in Europe. It was a struggling nation. The 1918 flu pandemic infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide. It killed more people than all the wars of the twentieth century combined, It ravaged families. In my Dad’s family more than half of his brothers and sisters were killed by this influenza before he was a teen. ... http://lstrn.us/1nw9m6f
We are not “One nation, with liberty and justice for all.” We are less focused on competing with the rest of the world than we are focused on competing with our fellow countrymen. We are losing our stature on the world stage. This has provided an opening for the remainder of the world to catch up and take more of a leadership role.
The country is more politically divided than it has been for generations. The wrestling match within the country revolves around how do we keep our world dominance. The GOP, believes we can bully our way back to dominance and implement an austerity program geared towards the working class and poor. The Democrats are not addressing the problem at all but rather want to buy their popularity with programs and no means of paying for them.
No one is thinking long term. The United States was not a world power 1900. It was a nation made up of people with roots in Europe. It was a struggling nation. The 1918 flu pandemic infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide. It killed more people than all the wars of the twentieth century combined, It ravaged families. In my Dad’s family more than half of his brothers and sisters were killed by this influenza before he was a teen. ... http://lstrn.us/1nw9m6f
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The Republican Party has no prescriptions for improving the lives of African-Americans, because it has no prescriptions for improving the lives of anyone. I challenge anyone to name one policy proposed or passed over by Republicans over the last ten years that actually improves the lives of working people. For the life of me, I cannot!
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Oh come on, cutting taxes for the wealthy some of them worked for that money. Cutting benefits and services for the rest of us so we can use our creativity and imaginations to survive. Its Great!
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No, the GOP continually shows its genocidal intent on a large portion of Americans.
Those who during the Reagan Administration called AIDS "God's judgment on homosexuals," proved they were anything but "christian" and slandered the deity.
Second, during the 2012 debate cycle, a "Tea Party" group yelled "Let them die!" in a discussion of the ACA.
Third, Romney dropped his infamous "47%" comment, implying that some 150 million Americans (the poor, the elderly, people of color, "illegal immigrants," and LGBTQ people) were "life unworthy of life," to be eliminated at no cost. (This dwarfs the six million killed in the Holocaust, including my family remaining in Europe in 1939--and that effort entailed great costs to erect the murder camps, staff them, and transport the victims there. Was this perhaps what the GOP claims will be a "job creation program"?)
Finally, this year's Congressional non-action on zika is a national disgrace.
These people know no shame, and today's GOP--and its candidate Trump--are a stain sullying our nation and its reputation. Vote them down the toilet!
Those who during the Reagan Administration called AIDS "God's judgment on homosexuals," proved they were anything but "christian" and slandered the deity.
Second, during the 2012 debate cycle, a "Tea Party" group yelled "Let them die!" in a discussion of the ACA.
Third, Romney dropped his infamous "47%" comment, implying that some 150 million Americans (the poor, the elderly, people of color, "illegal immigrants," and LGBTQ people) were "life unworthy of life," to be eliminated at no cost. (This dwarfs the six million killed in the Holocaust, including my family remaining in Europe in 1939--and that effort entailed great costs to erect the murder camps, staff them, and transport the victims there. Was this perhaps what the GOP claims will be a "job creation program"?)
Finally, this year's Congressional non-action on zika is a national disgrace.
These people know no shame, and today's GOP--and its candidate Trump--are a stain sullying our nation and its reputation. Vote them down the toilet!
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Right now what is needed is a proscription. Prescription provided by democrats for 50 years has not worked for African Americans.
Here is a man who has lived his entire live in a gold bubble, literally, and now wants to connect with voters outside of that gold bubble --- too little, too late.
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A leopard can't change his spots.
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Yesterday morning I shaved to NBC news telling me about the Clintons selling influence to government and in the State Department. I then read the BBC story about the Clintons influence pedaling. When getting coffee I looked at the New York Times above the fold, below the fold, on page two, then three, and four. Nothing!
The New York Times needs to find a new owner that has some integrity. It needs to send the current staff to Fox “News” or MSNBC and hire people serious about journalism, and journalistic ethics. The New York Times must be more than another puffy propaganda rag up for hire. It has become one of the entities responsible for the death of democracy, or anything like it, in the USA.
The New York Times needs to find a new owner that has some integrity. It needs to send the current staff to Fox “News” or MSNBC and hire people serious about journalism, and journalistic ethics. The New York Times must be more than another puffy propaganda rag up for hire. It has become one of the entities responsible for the death of democracy, or anything like it, in the USA.
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John Kasich better write another tone deaf rightist Op Ed piece so more clueless uneducated rightist recognize his name when Little Hands finally drops out of the race nd slithers back to Maralago to start looking for wife number four.
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I am afraid that too many of the posters and too many Democrats mistake their own fantasies about Trump for the truth about him.
There are some things which are true of him. Narcissistic, yes. Childish, yes. Given to petty attacks, yes.
But note that his targets have included several white men, e.g. Bush. If he attacks BOTH men and women he is called a misogynist, but was Truman a misogynist because many people who died in Hiroshima were Japanese WOMEN?
Neither of the two candidates is particularly appealing. Shows clearly that OUR form of democracy is not even as good as monarchy! (smile).
There are some things which are true of him. Narcissistic, yes. Childish, yes. Given to petty attacks, yes.
But note that his targets have included several white men, e.g. Bush. If he attacks BOTH men and women he is called a misogynist, but was Truman a misogynist because many people who died in Hiroshima were Japanese WOMEN?
Neither of the two candidates is particularly appealing. Shows clearly that OUR form of democracy is not even as good as monarchy! (smile).
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"Neither of the two candidates is particularly appealing."...True, but the level at which they are not appealing is no where near being comparable. One has demonstrated a solid level of competence in government for 40 years. The other is totally unqualified and should be in therapy for narcissism.
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It's all such a farce, smoke and mirrors. The Republicans say they want to reach out to minorities or even immigrants, but they speak with forked tongues. They're simply lying to get votes. Their actions are not consistent with what they say. So, after months of offensive and bigoted rhetoric, Trump is going to walk it back? It doesn't really matter what he says, the guy is completely unqualified for the job he seeks.
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He is what he is and there's really no sense in debating it any longer. Close yur eyes, wake up on November 9th and it will all be over. We can go back to a Trumpless world, where we can, gleefully turn him off when he appears on his next circus show, hair and all.
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I think Trump has showed many times in the past that he's a knee-jerk racist and sexist. In his mind, he may think that he's neither, because he likes a few black and female people in his social and business circles.
The GOP's dismal record with minority voters is another matter. Many conservatives believe that their policies will be good for everyone, and allow talented people of any group to succeed. But their ranks are filled with people who spout racist and misogynist comments, and now, with the ascendance of Trump and his crude speeches, they don't bother to couch their views in coded language.
The GOP's dismal record with minority voters is another matter. Many conservatives believe that their policies will be good for everyone, and allow talented people of any group to succeed. But their ranks are filled with people who spout racist and misogynist comments, and now, with the ascendance of Trump and his crude speeches, they don't bother to couch their views in coded language.
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Actually, the Trump presidential candidacy, as ludicrous and tragic as it is, has pulled back the curtain on what the real Republican Party really is--in case there was any doubt in people's minds, which I don't think there really is.
There is nothing subtle about Trump. He is like a 4-year-old child who blurts out to family members and neighbors what the parents have been saying behind closed doors.
And what Trump said to make himself the #1 choice of Republican voters was to forget the dog whistling and simply "tell it like it is" (in GOP-ville). As his supporters frequently say: "He says what we have been thinking."
So now the Republican Party feels "embarrassed," because not only about 60-70% of Americans find Trump disgraceful and unfavorable, most of the rest of the world does too.
Who in the world is going to be fooled by Trump's lame effort to court the black vote by reading (badly) from a teleprompter? Yup, right from the GOP playbook. It is all about image and brand for the party of the rich that has done less than nothing for the middle- and working classes and has demonized the poor.
The over-the-top, cartoonish Trump has done what Jeb! Cruz, or Rubio could not have done nearly as effectively: Shown the world what the ugly side of America is really like and what the real Republican Party really is. The mischievous gods snickering.
There is nothing subtle about Trump. He is like a 4-year-old child who blurts out to family members and neighbors what the parents have been saying behind closed doors.
And what Trump said to make himself the #1 choice of Republican voters was to forget the dog whistling and simply "tell it like it is" (in GOP-ville). As his supporters frequently say: "He says what we have been thinking."
So now the Republican Party feels "embarrassed," because not only about 60-70% of Americans find Trump disgraceful and unfavorable, most of the rest of the world does too.
Who in the world is going to be fooled by Trump's lame effort to court the black vote by reading (badly) from a teleprompter? Yup, right from the GOP playbook. It is all about image and brand for the party of the rich that has done less than nothing for the middle- and working classes and has demonized the poor.
The over-the-top, cartoonish Trump has done what Jeb! Cruz, or Rubio could not have done nearly as effectively: Shown the world what the ugly side of America is really like and what the real Republican Party really is. The mischievous gods snickering.
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Does Rosenthal expect Donald Trump to put on sun glasses and play the saxophone. This was Bill Clinton's outreach program. Liberals told us that saxaphone playing and cheating on your wife increased Bill Clinton's empathy for African Americans. It seems to me that the Clinton's appeal was to a stereotype that is not descriptive of real people.
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Let us hope that at all these "new venues"....churches, schools, inner city gatherings, etc....The Donald is met by well-informed and vociferous voters willing to share their opinions of his latest desperate pivot and then respectfully escort him to the nearest exit!
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Trump has labels for everything and everybody, that's the way he thinks and operates. He pours out high remarks on one day and the moment someone comments negatively about him, they are lousy, the worst. Have we seen everything of this man? Perhaps not, but what we have seen is revolting and more than we are able to handle. His voice, his angry appearance, his bathing under the feeling that the people shouting build the wall find him great. He uses labels like racist remarks, but when ask he plays as if he does not understand. He says one thing today and another tomorrow. Not a single issue he has spoken about in these many free by the press published appearance had a solution that one could label as be workable. He mixes with racists like the British Racists Farage, labels "his African Americans" as living in an inferno of murder and low-life and thinks he can persuade them to give him a try and vote Trump. He is all over the place and demonstrates a frighteningly knowledge of nothing about economy, immigration, international relations, employment, trade. Trade is the example, where he wants to bring jobs back, but his own Shirts, Ties, Furniture are outsourced by Trump himself and he does not speak of bringing them back.
He is the worst candidate ever, a loser one can not make up and in desperation he even wants to control the vote. The people will like in most cases during American history make the right decision and render him political bankrupt.
He is the worst candidate ever, a loser one can not make up and in desperation he even wants to control the vote. The people will like in most cases during American history make the right decision and render him political bankrupt.
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I hope some group can organize monitors for the Trump 'monitors' with cameras. Given his appeal to white supremacists and other alt-right groups, the threat of intimidation and violence is to great to ignore.
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A person can't change completely at 70! Trump is still the same Trump we saw earlier in the campaign! And he is horrible and he will be horrible for the country and the world.
I sincerely hope people won't forget the real Trump and vote for him just because he can read from the teleprompter.
I sincerely hope people won't forget the real Trump and vote for him just because he can read from the teleprompter.
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Real Donald, you mean the one taken to court in the 70s and 80s for discriminating against blacks when renting apartments? That real Drumpf?
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I think that each journalist should disclose their political affiliation, just like it is required of "financial analysts" on TV in regard to their financial positions. This way we would all better understand their biases.
So, would "Andrew Rosenthal, (D)" would change your perspective on this article?
So, would "Andrew Rosenthal, (D)" would change your perspective on this article?
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I honestly think that Little Hands is a crazy person.
He needs help.
He needs help.
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Trump's though process; The inner citied of America are so bad, what have you got to lose? As if people have forgotten Jim Crow, the Klan and the current wave of disenfranchising voter laws all aimed at minorities.
Good grief, is this all you have to do to manage a Presidential campaign?
Good grief, is this all you have to do to manage a Presidential campaign?
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Black Americans, whether or not they back President Obama's policies, are understandably proud to see a black man occupy the White House these past eight years. Trump, meanwhile, got his start in politics by his vile and relentless promotion of the birther conspiracy, directly humiliating the president by questioning the very legitimacy of his presidency.
Trump has demonstrated he's a thick-headed sort of man, but does he really think black Americans don't remember that he did this?
Trump has demonstrated he's a thick-headed sort of man, but does he really think black Americans don't remember that he did this?
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The "Real" Donald Trump? The only thing real about Trump is his desire for more attention and more wealth and not necessarily in that order. His life has been so wrapped up in himself that there is no compassion or even understanding of others not in his social bracket. They can write all the speeches they want and he can mouth the words, but he's not fooling anyone except the hard core bigots that surround him. Yes, if he wants to through the bigot term around he can direct it towards himself and his followers, not at Hillary Clinton. She may be many things but she and Bill are not bigots.
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Trump had a lock on angry white males. Then he started backtracking and softening his stance on immigration. This pivot won't wash with the hard core that won him the primaries. When the people he played to realize that they've been played, there won't be an uproar, there will be the crushing silence of his base staying home on Election Day.
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I understand that America is the land of opportunity, and that anyone can grow up to be President. However, Trump's rise brings so much irony to this adage as to make a laughingstock of our great nation.
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This is a Republican candidate who has followed a Republican script stripped of deceptive big tent charade. The Republican Party has clung to the Southern Strategy, overthrowing the Voting Rights of minorities, terrifying Hispanic minorities that his Party has exploited in the workplace and demonized, dehumanized women who the Party feels are incapable of making decisions, require Christian control of their reproductive choices. It is crucial for voters to recognize Republican Party themes enacted by a fraud. Trump is a lousy actor who emulates Mussolini's mannerisms and Hitler's bravado. Trump is the Republican Party's chest thumping hero of white supremacy. No, he is not an aberration, he is the epitome of what Republicanism has become.
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Trump's communications advisor says we are starting to see "the real Donald Trump." So what we've been seeing and hearing up until now is the fake Donald Trump?
This just underscores H.L. Mencken's definition of a demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue, to men he knows to be idiots.
So, he's bagged one brand of idiots, and now he's going after a new catch.
This just underscores H.L. Mencken's definition of a demagogue: One who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue, to men he knows to be idiots.
So, he's bagged one brand of idiots, and now he's going after a new catch.
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@margo:
And in doing so, he's like the fool who in his desire to get both salt and sugar on his plate, turns his plate with salt over to make place for the sugar...
And in doing so, he's like the fool who in his desire to get both salt and sugar on his plate, turns his plate with salt over to make place for the sugar...
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Unfortunately, no matter how wrongheaded, people don't like being called idiots, and in many cases in other parts of their lives they are not.
Though I should take my own advice, I suggest reaching out to the humanity of people who have been deluded by a culture that encourages this way of thinking. I do believe people can change, but they need to see outside their cultural norms. Many Trump voters have little opportunity to be exposed to a broader community that is more inclusive.
Though I should take my own advice, I suggest reaching out to the humanity of people who have been deluded by a culture that encourages this way of thinking. I do believe people can change, but they need to see outside their cultural norms. Many Trump voters have little opportunity to be exposed to a broader community that is more inclusive.
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The only "deep felt feeling" Trump has ever had is the satisfaction of bilking gullible people out of their money!
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Old saying applies here, you can't change the spots on a leopard.
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No person can change the mind about such a complex issue on a dime. He has a set of talking points that he wants to cover and he thinks non white people are so dumb they will fall for it. He is just a windbag.
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His belated effort to "change" makes him scarier than ever. The man has no moral core.
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Will he have a teleprompter in the Presidential Debates? Will he have a friendly audience to cheer every other sentence out of his mouth? What will happen when the moderators toss him hardballs instead of cotton-balls? And finally, how will he react to a 'girl', Hillary Clinton, calling him everything from a thief, liar, philanderer, tax-cheat, and stupid?
That's when we'll see the 'real' Donald Trump
That's when we'll see the 'real' Donald Trump
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Trump haters are out in full force today. But, why can't Democrats face the truth? Name one urban city today, that has a democrat for a mayor, where the black neighborhoods are flourishing, where the majority of families are two parent households, where education is a top priority, where violence is not a part of every day life, where drugs are not running rampant throughout the city...name just one! Thank you. Maybe it is time for blacks to give trump a chance.
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A chance to do what? Hello Jim Crow.
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The "Real Trump" is the guy who claims he went to Britain to successfully support the Brexit. That's the kind of guy we need as President? Telling foreign allies how they should run their countries? Threatening to pull the US out of NATO if our allies don't do what he says? Trump apparently thinks running the US isn't nearly enough of a challenge for someone of his outsized capabilities. And he's got his nuclear trigger finger poised to punish whatever country isn't paying heed to his commands.
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And Obama had the gall to threaten American-British trade and military relationships if the British people actually had the nerve to vote for their freedom and independence and threw off their evil empire European Union shackles. Oh but I forgot. Obama is a Globalist and psuedo "Leftist" so whatever he says or does is beyond reproach. Do not dare to criticize Obama or you may be labeled a (gasp)"racist" or (horrors) "bigot".
Can the leopard change it's spots?
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ddIt is as clear as daylight that whatever Trump is saying now is simply an effort to turn around his dismal showing. It has nothing to do with what he actual thinks, if he thinks at all. It is simply a political maneuver designed to attract votes. Trump is a hustler. His entire career is based on getting the best of the other guy through bullying when he has the upper hand or manipulation when not. The fact that he has had over 3,000 law suits should tell what kind of individual he is. Now, the leader that blocked the future of British youth by promoting Brexit with the same kind of big lies the that Trump uses, is here to support him. Political unawareness is not unknown in Blacks and Latinos just as there is among whites, so the fact that he manages to gather a few such token persons means absolutely nothing about his ability to attract the sensible majority to his disastrous ideas. Trump is a dangerous and uninformed person who is totally unfit to be anything other than a money-seeking, publicity hound. The sooner this unsettling campaign is over, the better off we will all be.
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Trump changes his mind and positions and message so often I have finally figured it out that there is no "Real" Donald Trump. If you vote for Donald Trump you will be voting for ???.
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The Bernie Madoff politician has hired a new PR firm. Color us impressed!
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Trump does not seem like someone who has the temperament to be president.
But alas, some of his ideas are good and these ideas, brought to us by a bad messenger, are going to die.
E.g. Do not pick a fight with Russia for something which does not affect our interests.
Do NOT get into trade agreements which increase our GDP but lower the wages of American workers.
Control immigration to levels which are easily acceptable. Do NOT follow Mrs. Merkel's unrealistic action.
Tone down on political correctness and on the North forcing its cultural values on the South.
All of these sensible will die.
But alas, some of his ideas are good and these ideas, brought to us by a bad messenger, are going to die.
E.g. Do not pick a fight with Russia for something which does not affect our interests.
Do NOT get into trade agreements which increase our GDP but lower the wages of American workers.
Control immigration to levels which are easily acceptable. Do NOT follow Mrs. Merkel's unrealistic action.
Tone down on political correctness and on the North forcing its cultural values on the South.
All of these sensible will die.
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Don't start wars that cause ISIS, the Immigration crisis in Europe, bedlam in Iraq and Syria, a military so stretched and exhausted that Russia is emboldened to attack and dominate old orbit states that we took 50 years freeing, and don't support corrupt, violent right wing dictators, causing migrants flee to the north.
You make great points and I agree.
You make great points and I agree.
But it's fine to support separation of the States, Ludwig? And what immigration levels are "acceptable" to you? And that picking-a-fight-with-Russia thing -- what the heck does that mean?
Cultural values? Mr. Trump has none.
Cultural values? Mr. Trump has none.
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Regarding the trade agreement. We could avert much of the bad affects of the trade agreement by reverting income tax rates back to 1968 levels and use the funds to help the citizens that are negatively affected. That help should include free college and trade school for those who academically qualify.
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Is Donald Trump racist? I think it is important to use words carefully. Historically, it is on the record that he engaged in discrimination in the New York rental market. He made a comment about employing minority accountants in Atlantic City. My sense at this point is that he is relatively clueless about race.
I do not think he is a racist in the same league as his supporters William Johnson of the American Freedom Party or Andrew Anglin of the “alt-right” Daily Stormer. I received a robo-call from William Johnson, identifying himself as a farmer and white nationalist, urging my vote for Donald Trump In the primary. He began the 45 second taped message he left on my answering machine announcing that “The White race is dying out in Europe and America because we are afraid to be called racists.” He ended by saying that “Donald Trump is not a racist, but Donald Trump is not afraid.”
At this point I do not believe that Donald Trump is a dyed-in-the-wool racist (white supremacist), but he is clearly an opportunist who will "dog whistle" to racists and play the race card in his own way – discriminating when it has suited his economic and political interests and espousing a prejudiced, paternalistic message in his arguments that minorities don’t act in their own political interests.
I do not think he is a racist in the same league as his supporters William Johnson of the American Freedom Party or Andrew Anglin of the “alt-right” Daily Stormer. I received a robo-call from William Johnson, identifying himself as a farmer and white nationalist, urging my vote for Donald Trump In the primary. He began the 45 second taped message he left on my answering machine announcing that “The White race is dying out in Europe and America because we are afraid to be called racists.” He ended by saying that “Donald Trump is not a racist, but Donald Trump is not afraid.”
At this point I do not believe that Donald Trump is a dyed-in-the-wool racist (white supremacist), but he is clearly an opportunist who will "dog whistle" to racists and play the race card in his own way – discriminating when it has suited his economic and political interests and espousing a prejudiced, paternalistic message in his arguments that minorities don’t act in their own political interests.
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He has been supportive of his daughter Ivanka who converted to Judaism and seems close to his son in law.
Also, he put Ben Carson in charge of picking his VP.
Apparently Ivanka is close to Chelsea and Melania is close to Putin's girl friend so his family seems rather open socially.
I think your characterization is correct, except that in this case, appearing to be racist has hardly served his interests in this campaign.
Suggesting that Bush should have been impeached was also not very wise. It lost him points with Republicans and gained NO points with liberals.
So "opportunist"? "Childish" is a better characterization.
Also, he put Ben Carson in charge of picking his VP.
Apparently Ivanka is close to Chelsea and Melania is close to Putin's girl friend so his family seems rather open socially.
I think your characterization is correct, except that in this case, appearing to be racist has hardly served his interests in this campaign.
Suggesting that Bush should have been impeached was also not very wise. It lost him points with Republicans and gained NO points with liberals.
So "opportunist"? "Childish" is a better characterization.
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To paraphrase William Shakespeare, rotting garbage by any other name would smell as bad.
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I can read minds. I know what Trump is thinking. "If an African-American like Obama can become president I should be a shoo-in." His racism, like that of many Republicans ( and likely some Democrats as well) is so ingrained many don't even know it's there, though others proudly hide under pointy white cones.
What boggles my mind is that his campaign openly acknowledges their intention to "spin" a new, improved Trump and the American people will just forget everything that went before. I name this the Nobel Prize in cynicism.
What boggles my mind is that his campaign openly acknowledges their intention to "spin" a new, improved Trump and the American people will just forget everything that went before. I name this the Nobel Prize in cynicism.
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But he said long ago that a transgender person could use ANY restroom he/she wants in a Trump building. He, unlike any other Republican, said that some of the work done by Planned Parenthood was good. And he said that Bush should have been impeached for the war on Iraq.
All these things happened BEFORE the "pivot".
Trump is not suitable for the presidency, but too many people are mistaking their fantasies about Trump for facts about Trump.
All these things happened BEFORE the "pivot".
Trump is not suitable for the presidency, but too many people are mistaking their fantasies about Trump for facts about Trump.
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In my opinion, That Man's pivot is saying one thing to try and get people to believe he has changed his beliefs. He says that never again will he abuse minorities, that he will not do or say what he has been telling the world up to now.
He is much like the wife beater who slaps her around, realizes she may not stay and be his maid and punching bag, so tells her he has changed! He will be so different it will make your head spin.
But he won't because he can't. He is, as he says, what he is and that is how you take him. The wife beater is no more going to stop his behavior than That Man is going to change his stance on minorities once he gets what he wants -- new voters. And if the wife and the voters both fall for that lie, how long will they live to regret it?
He is much like the wife beater who slaps her around, realizes she may not stay and be his maid and punching bag, so tells her he has changed! He will be so different it will make your head spin.
But he won't because he can't. He is, as he says, what he is and that is how you take him. The wife beater is no more going to stop his behavior than That Man is going to change his stance on minorities once he gets what he wants -- new voters. And if the wife and the voters both fall for that lie, how long will they live to regret it?
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"But it contained no real policy prescriptions, because the Republican Party had none. What the nation got was four more years of escalating racial and social division."
So the Republican party's the cause "of escalating racial and social division". C'non.
So the Republican party's the cause "of escalating racial and social division". C'non.
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There aren't any white nationalists in the Democratic Party.
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Yes, they are. Republicans are the ones who are trying to keep people of color from voting.
Take a look at these maps. See the similarity?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/12/10/opinion/20101210_Disunion_...
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/25/us/efforts-to-change-votin...
Take a look at these maps. See the similarity?
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/12/10/opinion/20101210_Disunion_...
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/25/us/efforts-to-change-votin...
How truly weird! The party that wins elections with barely concealed racism thinks they can attract the people they continually insult, abuse and lie about.
Nixon's "Law and Order", Reagan's "Welfare Queens", Bush's Willie Horton ads and Romney's 46 per cent dependent people were all racist slurs.
It's as if the used car salesman really believes that he is giving you a great deal on a fine used car.
Trump isn't really saying anything new for Republicans, he just doesn't know how to say it.
Nixon's "Law and Order", Reagan's "Welfare Queens", Bush's Willie Horton ads and Romney's 46 per cent dependent people were all racist slurs.
It's as if the used car salesman really believes that he is giving you a great deal on a fine used car.
Trump isn't really saying anything new for Republicans, he just doesn't know how to say it.
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Andrew's fist sentence says it succinctly.
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Trump will not fool most of the Latinos.
I hope he does not fool non racist white Americans.
I hope he does not fool non racist white Americans.
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There is no way he would fool this white woman. You don't talk one way for over a year and then change your tune. Just another Trump game.
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Never happen, Never Trump
Agreed: the "real" Trump has consistently shown himself for decades. His poll numbers, whatever they are, reflect the deeply held biases of his supporters. Trump has offered little if any "hard" policy. His campaign consists of self-glorifying rants, superficial assertions, and deprecations of Clinton and others.
His new campaign manager seems effective. She's managed to muzzle him, to create a new, softer Trump for the remaining few days of the election cycle. She may succeed, but people who think this represents a fundamental character transformation are kidding themselves.
Trump is incapable of change and has merely adopted a reality TV persona. His insincere and insubstantial quest for the presidency is only for the personal win, the title. He doesn't know how to govern and doesn't want to govern. We should be as if not more concerned with the histories and characters of his coterie who, should Trump win, are likely to have formal roles and continued influence. They are every bit as dangerous to our country and the world as is Trump.
His new campaign manager seems effective. She's managed to muzzle him, to create a new, softer Trump for the remaining few days of the election cycle. She may succeed, but people who think this represents a fundamental character transformation are kidding themselves.
Trump is incapable of change and has merely adopted a reality TV persona. His insincere and insubstantial quest for the presidency is only for the personal win, the title. He doesn't know how to govern and doesn't want to govern. We should be as if not more concerned with the histories and characters of his coterie who, should Trump win, are likely to have formal roles and continued influence. They are every bit as dangerous to our country and the world as is Trump.
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Time for a look back at all the republican (note I use small case) leaders who castigated Obama for using the teleprompter. Tsk, tsk, such a petty observation.
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From how impressed they seem that Trump can use the teleprompter rather than engage in stream-of-consciousness rants, maybe they were just jealous that Obama could use it so effortlessly.
Was it Rove who said to go after the other guy's strength? Thus, the swift-boat attacks on John Kerry, a real American military hero, was seen as less "manly" than W, who spent the Viet Nam War playing and hiding out in a neighboring state's National Guard. Not that the whole National Guard plays, but if Bush had done anything of note, someone would have written it down somewhere--and there is no evidence that he did.
Likewise, with the President--if he looks presidential while he speaks smoothly and calmly, then attack the tools that help him do so. Try to make people prefer unscripted rants with upredictable forays into falsehood and outrage. And voila! Lots of Trump voters love how he "tells it like it is" or that he "tells the truth", even while knowing that he does not really plan to build the wall or kick out 11 million people. They like that he is like them--spur of the moment and mentally lazy. He doesn't make them think too hard, and he doesn't ask them to know their history or worry them with ethical scruples. So much more fun to listen to!
Was it Rove who said to go after the other guy's strength? Thus, the swift-boat attacks on John Kerry, a real American military hero, was seen as less "manly" than W, who spent the Viet Nam War playing and hiding out in a neighboring state's National Guard. Not that the whole National Guard plays, but if Bush had done anything of note, someone would have written it down somewhere--and there is no evidence that he did.
Likewise, with the President--if he looks presidential while he speaks smoothly and calmly, then attack the tools that help him do so. Try to make people prefer unscripted rants with upredictable forays into falsehood and outrage. And voila! Lots of Trump voters love how he "tells it like it is" or that he "tells the truth", even while knowing that he does not really plan to build the wall or kick out 11 million people. They like that he is like them--spur of the moment and mentally lazy. He doesn't make them think too hard, and he doesn't ask them to know their history or worry them with ethical scruples. So much more fun to listen to!
What is laughable, to those who actually think about the election, is that Trump's handlers don't believe this obvious re-branding strategy is obvious. They, in fact, must believe that the U S electorate is indeed very stupid. If Trump is elected, we will have shown that they were right. It will be interesting, if nerve-wracking, to see whether or not they are.
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In code Trump is saying it's so hopeless for minorities we might as well shoot ourselves in the head. What's to lose?
A Trump trifecta: score with NRA and its boy toys, angry whites he laughs at not with, and self-hating Blacks so traumatized by racism they suffer racial Stockholm Syndrome. Like Clarence "pubic hair on my coke?" Thomas. Genius.
Also plausible that Trump is too exhausted for his improv routine so he's trying the paint-by-numbers plan his temp agency crew of novice politicos found googling "Political Campaigns for Idiots." They missed the JEB! watermark on the title page.
Trump's losing interest. He's tired. Unloading play-doh for nearly a minute in Louisiana took its toll. Broke a manicured pinkie nail and bone spurs make Gucci loafers purple heart worthy. His attention span is down to nanoseconds.
When Niel Farage joked that Pence is a penny in England, a nervous Trump asked Ivanka if Putin had vetted his VP's sexual orientation. Trump also mistook Farage for Homer Simpson but promised he would "Amexit" if elected (later corrected to say Visa not American Express, cancelled after 3rd bankruptcy, so Trump meant "Visit" the EU not exit). When Farage mentioned the "special relationship" between Brits and Yanks, Trump muttered "there goes my Evil Angels List vote."
The "Real" Trump? Just a real estate ploy. Wrecks the economy and picks up White House in a distress sale. Vlad bankrolls with a lease back.
You thought he was running for president?
A Trump trifecta: score with NRA and its boy toys, angry whites he laughs at not with, and self-hating Blacks so traumatized by racism they suffer racial Stockholm Syndrome. Like Clarence "pubic hair on my coke?" Thomas. Genius.
Also plausible that Trump is too exhausted for his improv routine so he's trying the paint-by-numbers plan his temp agency crew of novice politicos found googling "Political Campaigns for Idiots." They missed the JEB! watermark on the title page.
Trump's losing interest. He's tired. Unloading play-doh for nearly a minute in Louisiana took its toll. Broke a manicured pinkie nail and bone spurs make Gucci loafers purple heart worthy. His attention span is down to nanoseconds.
When Niel Farage joked that Pence is a penny in England, a nervous Trump asked Ivanka if Putin had vetted his VP's sexual orientation. Trump also mistook Farage for Homer Simpson but promised he would "Amexit" if elected (later corrected to say Visa not American Express, cancelled after 3rd bankruptcy, so Trump meant "Visit" the EU not exit). When Farage mentioned the "special relationship" between Brits and Yanks, Trump muttered "there goes my Evil Angels List vote."
The "Real" Trump? Just a real estate ploy. Wrecks the economy and picks up White House in a distress sale. Vlad bankrolls with a lease back.
You thought he was running for president?
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Trump's "temp agency crew of novice politicos... ." Great line, Yuri.
The stinky air of desperation pervades the halls of the NYTs, home of the Hillary shills.
It's now a virtual tie in he polls. The next WikiLeaks expose right before the debates will knock her off. Her overt and stupendous criminality and venality have been exposed.
It's now a virtual tie in he polls. The next WikiLeaks expose right before the debates will knock her off. Her overt and stupendous criminality and venality have been exposed.
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It seems to be wafting from the Bronx. The Real Clear Politics average of national polls has Clinton up by 5 points. Trump isn't leading in a single one.
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Hillary Clinton's "criminality" is a Republican slander. In reality, she has never been charged with any crimes, much less tried, convicted or punished. The GOP, led by the nose by the Javerts of Judicial Watch, keep constructing fantasy scenarios where HRC is a felon or worse. And every one of those scenarios completely collapses under scrutiny. The GOP is terrified of her strength, her capabilities and her brainpower, and they know that, if elected, Clinton's eight years in the White House will force the Republican Party to evolve or die.
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"I have a sentimental weakness for my children and I spoil them, as you can see. They talk when they should listen." ...
"What do you have to lose?” asks Trump.
"Only our dignity" says America.
"Only our dignity" says America.
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and our future
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Yesterday, when Trump declared that Hillary is a "Bigot", there was a woman standing behind him who actually cringed, started to applaud, and then stopped suddenly. She looked around to see how others were reacting. It seemed to be an "AHA" moment for a white, female, middleclass Trump supporter who realized that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I certainly hope that "bigot" was an adlib and not something written for him. If it was scripted, then his new "handlers" are no better than him.
I certainly hope that "bigot" was an adlib and not something written for him. If it was scripted, then his new "handlers" are no better than him.
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I remember an real estate infomercial decades ago. This huckster would use the same tactics by belittling people struggling and then tell them how great he is. Then he sold them his plan with a free seminar. This is what Trump is doing by saying "you guys are crap and what do you have to lose to vote for me!"
Incidentally, 16 years ago another salesman used a similar tactics, albeit softer in tone, by telling people the nation is in moral decline but he would fix it. 16 years later, America is still paying for his two wars on a credit card, tax cut on the top and social cut on the bottom, attracting zealots from all over the world and allowing energy company writing energy legislations.
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose indeed!
Incidentally, 16 years ago another salesman used a similar tactics, albeit softer in tone, by telling people the nation is in moral decline but he would fix it. 16 years later, America is still paying for his two wars on a credit card, tax cut on the top and social cut on the bottom, attracting zealots from all over the world and allowing energy company writing energy legislations.
So ask yourself: what do you have to lose indeed!
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I live in a nice, blue collar, middle class, mixed neighborhood in Kansas City. I haven't heard gunfire, haven't seen hoards of immigrants wandering about, haven't seen a single terrorist, no gang members threatening the residents, no rampant crime.
I have seen neighbors out working to make their homes more lovely, planting flowers and trimming bushes. They are tending their lawns, their tomatoes and peppers. I have one neighbor who's learning of terrorist squirrels who steal the tomatoes just before they ripen. She's trying to take them on with an air rifle. So far, the squirrels are winning that urban war. It's the only war we've got here. At least, the only one I know of.
No, Mr. Trump is not speaking to anyone who lives in my neighborhood. Perhaps the squirrels would be for him if they knew about his being on the ballot. Perhaps a few two-legged squirrels are. I just haven't met them.
I have seen neighbors out working to make their homes more lovely, planting flowers and trimming bushes. They are tending their lawns, their tomatoes and peppers. I have one neighbor who's learning of terrorist squirrels who steal the tomatoes just before they ripen. She's trying to take them on with an air rifle. So far, the squirrels are winning that urban war. It's the only war we've got here. At least, the only one I know of.
No, Mr. Trump is not speaking to anyone who lives in my neighborhood. Perhaps the squirrels would be for him if they knew about his being on the ballot. Perhaps a few two-legged squirrels are. I just haven't met them.
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Donald Trump is now acting like Pilate, asking the crowd gathered as his rallies Who do you want, Barabbas or Jesus called the Messiah? Trump, in relation to the 11 Million undocumented, is now asking the crowds who should be thrown out and who should stay. Justice by the mob.
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In sharp contrast to your hero Barack Obama, Trump is saying he will obey the laws of the United states strictly regarding the 11 to 20 million uninvited guests, many of whom have become public charges.
We tried having an autocratic tyrant who picked and chose what laws to carry out and which to just rewrite off the cuff, and now we get to try have an actual President.
We tried having an autocratic tyrant who picked and chose what laws to carry out and which to just rewrite off the cuff, and now we get to try have an actual President.
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Your statistics sure are eye-opening. Many out of 11 million. Or maybe it's 20 million. Anyway, many of whatever are public charges -- because there's probably some proof somewhere that they are.
Trump is saying he'll obey the laws of the United States? Haha to the highest degree.
Trump is saying he'll obey the laws of the United States? Haha to the highest degree.
"the real Donald Trump" is introduced by the xenophobic/supremacist Nigel Farage (Bannen's mini-me) at the Mississippi rally, and Trump asked to minorities "what do you have to lose?"
This is the alt right machine in full operation.
This is the alt right machine in full operation.
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This reminds me of the parents of a petulant 2 year old holding their breath that their child does not act up in public.
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Problem, then diagnosis, then policy, then politics. There are many problems for many African-American communities. Check. Trump says that they have been caused by living in areas with Democratic leaders. Please provide evidence. Trump says he'll solve it by policies that are either unspecified or the tired (and failed) old tax cuts for the rich. Politics: If elected, republican congressmen would run the show. We have seen what that has been like at State levels: voter suppression, denying health coverage (Medicaid), public health crises (think Flint water),..
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The "real Donald Trump " has been obvious to anyone who cared to see him since he officially declared his candidacy. A slight pivot in rhetoric and style is irrelevant.
The beautiful thing is that Mr. Trump has also exposed the "real Republican party", and senior Republicans such as Sen. McConnell and Rep. Ryan are very dismayed by that. I enjoy watching them squirm as they attempt to maintain their support for Trump, while disavowing his statements. It is the sort of punishment they deserve.
The beautiful thing is that Mr. Trump has also exposed the "real Republican party", and senior Republicans such as Sen. McConnell and Rep. Ryan are very dismayed by that. I enjoy watching them squirm as they attempt to maintain their support for Trump, while disavowing his statements. It is the sort of punishment they deserve.
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I am so ashamed that this malignant braggart is darkening the world. That children ever saw such a not-humane Effluent lauded. That the worst of us is flouted on every TV screen. That the Beloved Village, the Shire is besmirched.
"Where were the Good Americans?" history will ask.
"Where were the Good Americans?" history will ask.
I am anxiously waiting for the first debate.I am absolutely sure than his Thin skin will not survive when confronting with Hillary.Then we will have a good glimpse of the real Trump.Badly prepared,not intelligent,ignorant about almost everything beside repeating the same points that his crowd loves.
He is good in making money while his investors are losing money and avoiding jail.
Afterwards we will need to help him to get to a mental institution.The straight face will fall.
He is good in making money while his investors are losing money and avoiding jail.
Afterwards we will need to help him to get to a mental institution.The straight face will fall.
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SF: Are you referring to the unindicted felon, Hillary, who hasn't had a press conference since 2015? Yeah, she'll survive a debate with Trump. She won't even survive the next email reveal.
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Careful.... not intelligent? Not so.
There are a list of things he is... racist, bigot, misogenist, and yes, ignorant of domestic and world affairs. He may be ADHD, and suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. He's a grifter and a con, and has littered the landscape with failed businesses and investors who lost hundreds of milliions supporting him;
but stupid he's not.
And that makes him even more dangerous.
There are a list of things he is... racist, bigot, misogenist, and yes, ignorant of domestic and world affairs. He may be ADHD, and suffer from narcissistic personality disorder. He's a grifter and a con, and has littered the landscape with failed businesses and investors who lost hundreds of milliions supporting him;
but stupid he's not.
And that makes him even more dangerous.
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She survived over 10 hours of questioning with dignity
. don't see him being to do that with his thin skin.
. don't see him being to do that with his thin skin.
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Even the Donald's "reach out" was racist -- full of dog whistle allusions to shootings and food stamps and unemployment, confirming what his white voters believe to be true about Those People. He has no idea how to reach out, because he grew up learning all the myths about Those People, and he hasn't learned anything more since. The man's lack of any capacity to learn is perhaps his scariest quality. He is certain in his stupidity.
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I think Trump will soon get (compose) a note from his doctor that gives him an excuse to drop out of the election. After all, Trump has been the target of violent verbal abuse for several months now, and the stress has been accumulating. Trump will attempt to sue the people who have opposed him and his (lack of) policies, since he has already said he expects to be paid for his time. I have never seen such a fraud and liar (although Ted Cruz is a close second) who, nonetheless, has garnered sufficient voter support to threaten the Democratic opponent AND the very foundation of the USA.
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Guilt by association is equally despicable. Is Rosenthal implying that whites are bigoted racists because they're tired of political correctness.
I saw a photo of Obama comforting a black woman as he toured the areas of Louisiana devastated by the recent flooding. Does that make Obama a bigot because he didn't reach out to whites whose lives were also ruined by this natural disaster?
The double standard reeks.
I saw a photo of Obama comforting a black woman as he toured the areas of Louisiana devastated by the recent flooding. Does that make Obama a bigot because he didn't reach out to whites whose lives were also ruined by this natural disaster?
The double standard reeks.
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Because you saw a photo of Obama comforting a black woman, does this mean that he didn't comfort white people? How many photos did you see of Obama? And how many pictures were taken?
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Political correctness is just another term for being polite. It is quite clear that Trump and his supporters are tired of it. Too bad for the rest of us.
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sharon - I'm sure the President reached out to whites as well as blacks. you refer to just one photo - there were many others I'm sure. what's the problem? This
president is one of the compassionate ones, unlike the Trump idiot that blackens
our lives.
president is one of the compassionate ones, unlike the Trump idiot that blackens
our lives.
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Clearly telepropter Trump has a much better view and understanding of Black lives from the splendid isolation of his 5th Avenue penthouse.
If you were gastronomically ecstatic over Trump Steaks
If you enjoyed an oenophillic coma from Trump Purple Heart wine;
If the highlight of your Louisiana flood relief is the autographed bottle of Trump Water;
You will absolutely adore Trump Waffles.
And the Trump Rubber Pool Slippers (aka Flip-flops) will catch your fancy as well.
If you were gastronomically ecstatic over Trump Steaks
If you enjoyed an oenophillic coma from Trump Purple Heart wine;
If the highlight of your Louisiana flood relief is the autographed bottle of Trump Water;
You will absolutely adore Trump Waffles.
And the Trump Rubber Pool Slippers (aka Flip-flops) will catch your fancy as well.
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Your first paragraph says it all, Mr. R.: they ( the Republicans) are scared and they aren't going to change their policies. And you and I know that Devoid Trump will not use a teleprompter for very long, maybe five minutes or so on his first try. His mouth is running full speed long before his brain is engaged. To top it off, that is SOME encouragement he has offered Black and Latino voters: "What have you got to lose?" And every one of them know exactly what they have to lose........
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Well said. But it isn't just Black and Latino voters who know what we have to lose, anyone with a clue knows what we have to lose. Donald doesn't have a CLUE, fortunately we do.
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Agreed,JRM. Pitting groups against each other, rather than engaging in thoughtful, considerate dialogue and helping to continue moving our nation towards its high, stretch goals as stated in our Declaration of Independence is something every American should fear. It seems that every utterance and suggestion coming from this candidate contains the notion that whole groups are responsible for some fictitious demise of America. We all must fear scapegoating used as a tool to organize and unite a mass of people. He and his campaign(s) are an existential threat to the entire country, not just Blacks, Latinos, women, Muslims, immigrants, and any other group that can be used to inspire hate in his fearful mobs of followers.
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Donald Trump is starting to realize that mass deportations are impossible like a child beginning to realize that Santa can't possibly visit every Christian house. But he still believes in building the wall, like the child holding up a shiny quarter still believes the tooth fairy is real.
All of Donald Trump's policies ideas are fantasy. They will never happen.
All of Donald Trump's policies ideas are fantasy. They will never happen.
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Trump 'reaching out', looking down, imploding, backtracking, firing, hiring, sticking to script, going off script, insulting, half-apologising, ......
All these articles are a complete waste of time for anyone with half a brain. The tabloids are the only ones that should be reporting and exploiting his every move and intrigue. Not the NYT, not even on a slow news day.
All these articles are a complete waste of time for anyone with half a brain. The tabloids are the only ones that should be reporting and exploiting his every move and intrigue. Not the NYT, not even on a slow news day.
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If Pericles were alive today, he'd marvel at how little progress had made since 462 BC. How would Herodotus and Thucydides judge Donald Trump? Does Donald Trump know who they are?
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It never ceases to bemuse me that the attraction to Donald Trump needs so much explaining There is no mystery here, just the irrefutable demonstration.that we live in a disfunctional society. Once we understand that being neurotic is a luxury and trickle-down a sophomoric scam we might get over ourselves. Long odds on that bet.
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Mr Trump was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has "never sacrificed anything or anyone" ( as Mr. Khan referred to Mr Trump at the most memorable moment at the DNC Convention). He has lived a life of entitlement and expectation, constantly spoiled and coddled; a man devoid of compassion or empathy towards another fellow being. This is the ' real ' Donald Trump and not even the best campaign manager can fill the vacuum in his heart and soul. And a Nation can only rise when the power of the heart and soul lifts it up.
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Poor Donald. He's got a new set of advisors trying to shift the image. Kinder, gentler. Will it work? No. The guy is a trainwreck on steroids. Even the least informed, low education, unemployed, disenfranchised voter can find something this guy has said that makes them sick. He has offended everyone: women, disabled, minorities, immigrants, parents of soldiers killed in action defending this country. Who hasn't he offended. Mike Bloomberg said it ...the guy is unfit for the office of POTUS. A set of robes won't fool anyone.
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Apparently, the "real" Trump is a yet more bombastic and viscious version of the previous Trump. He's like one of those Russian nesting dolls. Each time they reveal another "real" one, it's ten times worse, this one Breitbart enhanced. The longer he goes on, the more outrageous and vitriolic his pronouncements become.
But that's Trump. What's truly frightening is that there are, literally, millions of people providing him with an echo chamber. And there's a real possibility they might get him elected. Or failing that, get those "second amendment" boys to do their thing on President Clinton.
But that's Trump. What's truly frightening is that there are, literally, millions of people providing him with an echo chamber. And there's a real possibility they might get him elected. Or failing that, get those "second amendment" boys to do their thing on President Clinton.
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Donald Trump's campaign is trying to convince the voters that Hillary Clinton has issues with her health, however it is very obvious that Trump has very serious issues with his mental health. The real Donald Trump is a deranged man, and his campaign manager is trying to mask it to fool the voters. Well it's too late. After observing Donald Trump over the past year, now he could walk on water and I wouldn't vote for him.
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mr. trump talks and talks about how smart, successful and wonderful his is at making deals, but he will not reveal his financial secrets. he is hiding his tax returns. why? it can not be because he does not want us to know how little in taxes he pays considering his claimed wealth and income. he has already admitted that he has worked very hard at not paying taxes. i do not see that as a real problem because if he has followed the tax laws he is permitted to legal deductions. he did not write the laws. he has been in the real estate business for a lifetime. of course, he takes deductions. he has also admitted that he is the king of debt. we know this already. what we do not know are the identity of his lenders, associates, and whether his returns are based on truth and facts or just puffed estimates. maybe the IRS is of the opinion that he owes millions in taxes. voters are entitled to know. maybe all he wants is the power to grant pardons to all sorts of people who are friends and associates. who knows?
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Brutally insensitive, frighteningly callous, and sickeningly self-serving. I have yet to hear a word out of this reptile that even hints at the notion of service to others, or the nation...it's just a big game, and the object is to win...the job itself appears to be nothing more than a distant afterthought.
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The real insult is that Trump insisted that he wasn't going to be "politically correct" and then followed through on spades, spelling everyone except his racist, xenophobic followers.
Then he found out that he was losing in the white demographics traditionally won by the GOP.
So what does he do? He says just slightly less extreme things about minorities to all-white audiences to placate THEM, not to actually address the real needs of minorities,
So Trump is just a teeny bit PC for pay--or rather votes. But not so PC as to lose hold of the rabid hard core followers.
Yeah, thread the needle, Donald, but don't get stuck
Then he found out that he was losing in the white demographics traditionally won by the GOP.
So what does he do? He says just slightly less extreme things about minorities to all-white audiences to placate THEM, not to actually address the real needs of minorities,
So Trump is just a teeny bit PC for pay--or rather votes. But not so PC as to lose hold of the rabid hard core followers.
Yeah, thread the needle, Donald, but don't get stuck
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Once again, Bruni, the NYT and so many other pundits are making intelligent, well-reasoned and thoughtful arguments for why a President Trump would be a global disaster. Doesn't amount to anything. It's all about feeling - no logic or thought or intelligence required. Let's just stipulate to that and move on, ensure demagoguery does not win.
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It's like when a wife beater sends flowers, saying that's the real him. Don't believe it.
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Trump may not have full blown racism running through his veins, but given the people around him it is clear he is certainly a carrier.
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What does a sophisticated Trump supporter say when asked: Why should anyone believe anything Trump says about anything ? What history does he have that makes him especially reliable such that we should accept his word, without proof when the Times debunks almost everything he says as exaggeration or false.
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"sophisticated Trump supporter"
You're kidding, right?
You're kidding, right?
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I know lots of them, sorry. Many are friends. Smart,kind, educated, savvy men and women who hate Obama and Clinton. I cannot for the life of me explain or understand how Fox News and the rest of the right-wind propaganda machine has influenced them, but it is true enough. I believe, have always believed, that falsehoods take hold with these people because they were pre-disposed to opposing Obama (race) and Hillary (gender), or they place their trust in people ho are influenced by the same. And yes -- among this group of misinformed Americans, a healthy percentage of them are sophisticated people who love their kids and genuinely love their country. It is inexplicable and maddening.
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Trump reading a Teleprompter? He hasn't even read a book in the last 50 years.
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This op-ed misses the point. Trump's recent comments are not aimed directly at African-Americans, Latinos or other minorities. They are aimed at making himself look more moderate to white voters to try to make himself look more moderate. The polls showing how an overwhelming percentage of voters, of all races, find him to be racist is frightening both him and the GOP. He knows he needs to win over the white middle and working class voters who are hesitant to vote for him because of his racist rhetoric. I don't think he is expecting Latinos and African-Americans to actually pull the lever for him. He is hoping to get the whole voters he has alienated to say "See! He is trying to change."
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Exactly. He wants the moderate republican white voters to be less appalled by him so that they may still vote along party lines. That is brilliant strategy to improve his odds of winning.
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"the Republican National Committee issued a post-mortem that talked about the need for better outreach. But it contained no real policy prescriptions, because the Republican Party had none."
Should we be surprised? The harder I look for them, the more obvious is becomes that, from the RNC, there will be no "real policy prescriptions" that do not involve big tax cuts to their rich donors, allowing the bulk of the country to renew and extend yet again its indentured status to whatever might "trickle down" from Walmart, et al.
So much of the GOP's thinking sounds so 19th century! We seem to have a living fossil in our midst, one that still typifies what is thought to have made America "great!", at least in the minds of older, under-educated, white males.
Should we be surprised? The harder I look for them, the more obvious is becomes that, from the RNC, there will be no "real policy prescriptions" that do not involve big tax cuts to their rich donors, allowing the bulk of the country to renew and extend yet again its indentured status to whatever might "trickle down" from Walmart, et al.
So much of the GOP's thinking sounds so 19th century! We seem to have a living fossil in our midst, one that still typifies what is thought to have made America "great!", at least in the minds of older, under-educated, white males.
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Despicable Donald says numerous stupid things, but he is not stupid. He is shrewd. What is one of his most disrespectful traits is his conviction that those he seeks to swindle are as stupid as he believes them to be!
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This guy will say anything today, something completely different tomorrow, and deny everything the next. Why should I believe any of it? And how can anyone seriously believe this guy is going to protect our families lives and livelihoods in a complex and dangerous world when he can't even keep simple facts straight from one day to the next and can't see past the end of his own nose?
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The original unrepentant Birther, who went all in on trying to disenfranchise our first African American President, says it all.
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This piece really does tell it like it is. What a callous disregard Trump has for American citizens! He is the least civic-minded candidate one could imagine in the wildest nightmares. How does he have the gall to sow imaginary division in a democratic nation by using ignorant and worn-out cliches of minorities and whites as categorically separate and unequal? No one really believes that garbage. All of America's groups and communities have challenges, and we have great black leaders and successful minority citizens in all walks of life. We all can see and understand that Hillary listens to minorities who will soon be majorities and has workable ideas to try to help, unlike Trump, who throws out gibberish white supremacist rhetoric and trash talk, teleprompter or not, in a very obvious ploy to sow race divisions that don't exist while turning a blind eye and a tin ear to real stumbling blocks to racial progress.
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There is no real Donald Trump! Larry O'donald interviewed Glen Beck tonight. Surely a "Right" meets Left dialogue. Beck mentioned that he, Hannity, Limbaugh, et. all, had all tried to get their respective audiences to see through Trump. But, the audiences refused, preferring to hear what they wanted to hear.
Beck suggested that: "Trump is an empty vessel". He would build a Wall, and deport 11 million, and his audience cheered. He downplayed the Wall and softened his stance on Immigration, and there were no negative response.
His outreach to Blacks, Latinos and even Muslims, truly hasn't been believed in Minority Communities. Like Michael Bloomberg, they also recognize a "Con" when they see one. Also, he generally made the "What do you have to lose"" appeal only in White venues.
Trump appears to have two targets: convince the RNC that he has changed; and bring-back the Whites with college degrees, and those that fled him , appealing to their base loyalties. The last to leave the party, and the first back.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
Beck suggested that: "Trump is an empty vessel". He would build a Wall, and deport 11 million, and his audience cheered. He downplayed the Wall and softened his stance on Immigration, and there were no negative response.
His outreach to Blacks, Latinos and even Muslims, truly hasn't been believed in Minority Communities. Like Michael Bloomberg, they also recognize a "Con" when they see one. Also, he generally made the "What do you have to lose"" appeal only in White venues.
Trump appears to have two targets: convince the RNC that he has changed; and bring-back the Whites with college degrees, and those that fled him , appealing to their base loyalties. The last to leave the party, and the first back.
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
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Many people are now saying that Donald Trump is not a racist bigot.......
Many people are lying.............
Friends don't let friends vote for Trump.
Many people are lying.............
Friends don't let friends vote for Trump.
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Powe, money, control attracts the worst people and corrupts the best. No one with any dignity, morality, character, or intelligence should aspire to be like Donald Trump.
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This vicious demagogue has been carried aloft by
a giant media wave. His followers are awestruck
and have been deceived by an illusion. He is
a empty human being.
a giant media wave. His followers are awestruck
and have been deceived by an illusion. He is
a empty human being.
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There is no "real" Donald Trump. Only a fake one.
There was the Trump with "New York Values." Once Trump became a GOP candidate, he embraced Sheriff Joe Arpaio values, and other absurd extreme right wing positions. Now he's trying to "soften" his image by issuing what appears to be a one-time only regrets and perhaps reneging on his promise to deport every illegal alien.
If the question, "Will the real Trump please stand up," were asked, one of the many Trump impersonators could stand up and be more "real" than the one running to become president.
There was the Trump with "New York Values." Once Trump became a GOP candidate, he embraced Sheriff Joe Arpaio values, and other absurd extreme right wing positions. Now he's trying to "soften" his image by issuing what appears to be a one-time only regrets and perhaps reneging on his promise to deport every illegal alien.
If the question, "Will the real Trump please stand up," were asked, one of the many Trump impersonators could stand up and be more "real" than the one running to become president.
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You could say he is flip-flopping, but there is no flip to flop. There is no "real" Donald Trump to flip from, no there there. Trump has no position on anything that he really believes in, it is all manipulation, self-aggrandizement and getting even with anybody who doesn't buy what he is selling, literally and otherwise. He is the unmensch. Or, from another culture, all hat no cattle.
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Wait just a minute! Donald Trump was never read his Miranda rights, and so anything he has said in the past is inadmissible.
Somehow this latest meme of the softer fairer il duce about to pivot
to play to a larger audience, and see if any frissons of that mythic seductive charm will begin
to be felt up and down the spines of many a swing voter has been
undergoing its corporate media tryout to see how or if it will take hold and
begin to influence perceptions of that very small part of the population who
might be open to it. Exactly who that really is directed to however is
not all that evident....but whatever might help to counter the preceding few
weeks is better than nothing I suppose goes the inner counsel...
My hunch is that it is designed to keep more of all those brave courageous
gop "leaders" from publicly jumping ship loudly with yet another
excellent pretext to serve as the latest straw??
How about it Ryan? Had
enough yet with the explicit calls to bring in the goons in the guise of "monitors" and scare away the voters? Don't you think that's a little too close to how Putin deals with his opponents?
Or is it possibly the idea that "changing tone" gets still more attention/coverage
because of the change in tone only, not in substance at all? And of course
it's the attention that counts here...
Is anyone in that electronic corporate media so called journalist pool
willing to ask any questions of substance and cover the actual replies...or
are they still going on and on about the old lines and red herrings
in the softer tones of voice?
to play to a larger audience, and see if any frissons of that mythic seductive charm will begin
to be felt up and down the spines of many a swing voter has been
undergoing its corporate media tryout to see how or if it will take hold and
begin to influence perceptions of that very small part of the population who
might be open to it. Exactly who that really is directed to however is
not all that evident....but whatever might help to counter the preceding few
weeks is better than nothing I suppose goes the inner counsel...
My hunch is that it is designed to keep more of all those brave courageous
gop "leaders" from publicly jumping ship loudly with yet another
excellent pretext to serve as the latest straw??
How about it Ryan? Had
enough yet with the explicit calls to bring in the goons in the guise of "monitors" and scare away the voters? Don't you think that's a little too close to how Putin deals with his opponents?
Or is it possibly the idea that "changing tone" gets still more attention/coverage
because of the change in tone only, not in substance at all? And of course
it's the attention that counts here...
Is anyone in that electronic corporate media so called journalist pool
willing to ask any questions of substance and cover the actual replies...or
are they still going on and on about the old lines and red herrings
in the softer tones of voice?
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Noble sentiments, but this is politics and sadly there is pandering to the audience at every turn - as seen by the astonishing range of campaign promises by Clinton... hello, Area 51 promises?
So the Trump campaign is catching on to the more practiced Clinton tactics. So what?
So the Trump campaign is catching on to the more practiced Clinton tactics. So what?
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The point of the article is not that he's trying to pivot, but what he's trying to pivot away from. Bigotry is a very big deal. For many of us, it is a line in the sand that cannot be uncrossed.
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But African-American voters need a white-privileged senior citizen op-ed contributer to the NY Times to speak for them. Right. That's keeping it real. Real condescending. Does the similarly condescending term "mansplaining" apply to race too? I wonder if well intentioned liberals at the NYT ever take a step back and listen to themselves to see how elitist and patronizing they sound.
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Joe, try paying attention to what people are saying and not only who's saying it. And fact. I recommend facts.
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But it's not nearly as condescending as Trump talking "at" black people instead of to them. Like in billiards when you bounce a ball from one pocket to another, you say something to one person so another person can hear it, in this case white people afraid of their own conscience, afraid to be called racists. That's also condescending, if you want to keep it real.
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What's your point? It's not an op-ed, Andrew Rosenthal is a regular columnist, as are Charles Blow and Paul Krugman, both African American who have similarly written negatively about Trump. Maybe so many educated columnists write negative pieces because there are so many negatives about the candidate? And I realized after I wrote a reply to another writer who said he was ready to put up a sign in support of Trump that one of the significant reason I would not put up a sign in favor of Clinton is that I am afraid, afraid of being attacked physically and verbally by scary and riled up Trump supporters. Isn't that awful? What has our country come to that people support a candidate that incites violence and makes people afraid in a way that no national candidate has in my memory.
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It's all the same as if selling soap. Is there really anyone who doesn't know that by now?
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It's an easy analogy to make, but false.
Thank you for this column. This clown is a dangerous demagogue. Anyone in the media who believe a word he says ought to be sent back to journalism school. We have seen the real Trump. And to this day, to this minute, he continues smearing and slashing at Mrs Clinton, who has been an outstanding public servant. She was my senator, and never let our state down. Trump is a swindler who will not release his tax forms, which clearly must show that he has paid zero taxes and is in perilous debt to the Chinese and Russians. Who cares if he learns to read from a teleprompter. Forget that he has spent 8 yrs smearing our outstanding president, whose shoes Trump is not fit to clean.
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The Trump campaign's pivot will be seen as a cynical ploy to get white suburban women to feel better about voting for him. As far as many voters are concerned, the Trump people can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Hispanics won't forget they were called criminals. Blacks won't forget the Birther movement, and Muslims won't forget about either the fight with the Khan family or the threat to "ban all Muslims from entering the country,"
Hispanics won't forget they were called criminals. Blacks won't forget the Birther movement, and Muslims won't forget about either the fight with the Khan family or the threat to "ban all Muslims from entering the country,"
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I never bought the Trump that the liberal media has sold us. He is not a bad man. Not by a long shot. He has a self-destructive sense of humor...self destructive only because some of the country can't understand it. But being someone who had a long time career in NYC, I get it. I like it. I think he's what this country needs right now. Tomorrow I will put out my Trump sign. I haven't had the courage to do so until today.
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Do the research yourself. Fact: Trump pays NO income tax. Fact: Trump was found to have discriminated against blacks in 1975 & promised in a settlement never to do it again - but was charged AGAIN in 1978. Fact - Trump has used eminent domain to evict the elderly & poor. Fact - Trump donates nothing to charity but says he does. Fact: Trump has made anti-Semitic statements, racist statements, and bigoted hateful statements against Hispanics and gays. Fact: Trump oursources his jobs and hires illegals over citizens. You don't need the liberal media to know what's true. Look it up.
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Look up the Central Park Five, and bathe in Mr. Trump's needless interjection.
It only makes sense through a veil of racism.
It only makes sense through a veil of racism.
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He is a fraud . a hater and a racist. He is a liar, and an idiot - oh yeah, he knows nothing of the world, or the truth and you think he is what America needs? He sold out to Putin and is too stupid to even understand what NATO is and has done for decades and most importantly, he DENIES SCIENCE He goes to a place that had 2.5 feet of rain in one day and takes Play doh? Playdoh? If hes so rich, why didn;'t he give folks funds, or food, or water or something but Playdoh? Oh Lord protect us from the haters and uneducated of the world who care nothing for our planet or our humans. He will NEVER be president no matter how many signs you put up !
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The toxicity of the Trump campaign is just staggering. How does it continue to move forward? It is such an amazing national embarrassment.
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It moves forward because it brings in media dollars.
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According to the AP, it looks like Trump might have been right, Hillary has been bought.
" More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. . . Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million." - AP 8/24/16
So now what? We have to choose between a crazy bigot and someone who has been bought and paid for by the rich? I was going to say "God help us all," but we've brought this on ourselves.
" More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money - either personally or through companies or groups - to the Clinton Foundation. . . Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million." - AP 8/24/16
So now what? We have to choose between a crazy bigot and someone who has been bought and paid for by the rich? I was going to say "God help us all," but we've brought this on ourselves.
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Um, not to nitpick, but what did these people get in return for their contributions? So far NO ONE has offered any proof beyond -- oh my gosh, wow, hold onto your seats, deep breath -- they got to sit down and have a meeting with her.
A meeting. Just like donors meet with Senators and Reps and Cabinet officers and the president . . . .
And most of them were people whom ANY Sec State would want to meet with (Elie Weizl, Melinda Gates, etc.
But beyond that -- neither you nor anyone else has said what these donors received -- what's the quid pro quo beyond a meeting or a phone call?
Go ahead -- spell it out.
A meeting. Just like donors meet with Senators and Reps and Cabinet officers and the president . . . .
And most of them were people whom ANY Sec State would want to meet with (Elie Weizl, Melinda Gates, etc.
But beyond that -- neither you nor anyone else has said what these donors received -- what's the quid pro quo beyond a meeting or a phone call?
Go ahead -- spell it out.
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It is curious to me that you believe that a person has been "bought" when contributions are made to a private foundation that they are associated with. The Clintons do not receive any funds personally from this foundation. It has been highly rated for its charitable donations and low overhead. The foundation files yearly tax returns that can be viewed online by any interested party. As a tax accountant, I prepare several of these returns every year. These are not dark money operations. Everything they do is openly reported and subject to government audit. I think people who believe otherwise are terribly misinformed.
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You sound like a Trump Republican talking head. As soon as someone questions anything negative about Trump, they reply with a Hillary answer, never answering the Trump question. Hmmmm.
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Donald Trump is the antithesis of the post-WWII presidential candidate.
Trump challenges the main powers that be in America: big corporations, political parties, the mass media. Last but not the least, he plays the anti-immigration and religious card.
How does Trump expect to win a general election with such negative odds against?
Trump challenges the main powers that be in America: big corporations, political parties, the mass media. Last but not the least, he plays the anti-immigration and religious card.
How does Trump expect to win a general election with such negative odds against?
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He doesn't care whether he wins or loses. This is a big publicity stunt, and he's gotten more free publicity than anyone could have hoped for ... P. T. Barnum would be impressed, not to mention Joseph Goebbels.
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Maybe Trump's problems have more to do with his apparent narcissism, blatantly heartless and false comments about the disabled, a Mexican-American judge who was a prosecutor in drug cases, Mexicans in general, women who should change jobs if they are sexually harassed, and immigrants who have contributed to this country's greatness. Or it could be that his problems arise from his apparent man-crush for Vladimir Putin, his lack of knowledge of basic nuclear deterrence theory and his ridiculous views on the subject. Or it could be that he was utilizing racist landlord practices with his father decades ago. Or it could be....should I go on?
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I am a two tours in Vietnam veteran who is highly decorated' my son fought in Iraq in both Mosul and Tikrit as part of the 82nd Airborne. I can state unequivocally that neither of us will ever vote for a draft dodger like The Donald. I am a Cuban American born in Miami which is in Florida a proud State of our union. I clarify this in case Trump or some trumpeter wants to see my birth certificate like they rudely did to our fine Commander in Chief a Hawaiian native son. As Cubans who unfortunately we have a lot of elders who vote Republican but I assure you that these two Cuban war fighter veterans will do everything in our power to insure the Donald gets nowhere near the people's house. God Bless the Home of the Brave not the home of the weak white cowards afraid of Others" or whoever Donald blames for our woes.
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Many blacks and Hispanics may be struggling but they are not stupid. They have been lied to so often they can see a fraud any where. The white conservatives especially women who buy into the myth of Trump as the savior no matter how he presents himself are the truly stupid ones. Donald Trump's only goal is to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom and he will sell his soul to do it. He is a man with no center, a man who will say what his audience wants to hear. You who support and believe him are only listening to a shadow of yourself and will be betrayed as quickly as the people he has attacked in the past to get where he now is. You may think you own him and he can stay bought, but a higher bidder will always buy sway him as he shifts endlessly through his narcissism.
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Funny how so many say the same thing of Hillary Clinton. And in Bill's administration they pretty well prostituted the Lincoln bedroom, so a Hillary administration might well lead to Yogi Berra's famous line, "deja vu all over again."
Trump is no saint, but Hillary is far from canonization herself. They both sold their souls a long time ago, leaving us a choice between the witch or the devil. Some choice.
Trump is no saint, but Hillary is far from canonization herself. They both sold their souls a long time ago, leaving us a choice between the witch or the devil. Some choice.
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Hillary may not be a "saint" as you say--- none of us are saints. But She is highly qualified to be President of the U.S.A. Trump has no redeeming qualities. He is a narcissist, unbalanced, devoid of humanity and goodness. Hmm.. who should we vote for?
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Why do we continue to focus our attention on a racist man? Trump is full of hate, innuendo, and paranoia induced by ignorance. Let us ignore him and move on. He will get trounced in the November elections and go back to making a fortune from reality TV. He is a buffoon.
Please focus instead on making sure that the Republicans on the down ballet do not get elected. They are every bit as dangerous as this demagogic clown. This fellow did not arise out of thin air. The Republican party, Fox News and the many remnants of racism created him. It is time now to reject the others that were created from the same mold.
Please focus instead on making sure that the Republicans on the down ballet do not get elected. They are every bit as dangerous as this demagogic clown. This fellow did not arise out of thin air. The Republican party, Fox News and the many remnants of racism created him. It is time now to reject the others that were created from the same mold.
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The overtime for American police forces on Election Day to monitor the monitors will be truly staggering.
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If that is the case, then Trump will have effectively accomplished his goal of suppressing the vote in what will likely be Democratic precincts in swing states.
If there is sufficient anxiety drummed up in advance, then many people will be intimidated and stay away. A large police presence to counter Trump "monitors" will only reinforce that anxiety...
And, in any case, there probably aren't enough police to enforce electioneering zones throughout all precincts that might be impacted in any case.
If this starts to become a serious prospect, I would think that only effective remedy would be for lawyers for the Democratic Party to be ready to file lawsuits challenging the certification of election results.
If there is sufficient anxiety drummed up in advance, then many people will be intimidated and stay away. A large police presence to counter Trump "monitors" will only reinforce that anxiety...
And, in any case, there probably aren't enough police to enforce electioneering zones throughout all precincts that might be impacted in any case.
If this starts to become a serious prospect, I would think that only effective remedy would be for lawyers for the Democratic Party to be ready to file lawsuits challenging the certification of election results.
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How short are people's memories? Really--if he behaves himself in the next several weeks, the years of misogyny, stupidity, lies and ineptitude will be forgotten? Why are we even having a conversation about a grown man rebooting his personality? The absurd length his high profile supporters are going to is pathetic: they just keep prepping us for this new Donald Trump that will soon appear. So silly.
I want a president who has actually read a book and can speak in full sentences and doesn't call those with whom he disagrees names, like some schoolboy bully. He's a baby. Even though he has lived in New York all these years, I doubt he has ever visited a museum or an arts performance just for his own enlightenment. He is a boor, a liar and an embarrassment. As an American, I am offended that he is a candidate for the highest office in the land.
I want a president who has actually read a book and can speak in full sentences and doesn't call those with whom he disagrees names, like some schoolboy bully. He's a baby. Even though he has lived in New York all these years, I doubt he has ever visited a museum or an arts performance just for his own enlightenment. He is a boor, a liar and an embarrassment. As an American, I am offended that he is a candidate for the highest office in the land.
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Crooked lying Trump is the hypocrite-in-chief now, as he tries to 'corral' minorities he insulted all along, to do his bidding; this, no matter how pernicious his insults, and denigrating his innuendos. People are waking up to his double-talk, and not liking it one bit.
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Reaching out? And the media falls for people who say "we are reaching out."
And they get all excited and repeat to one another: "Wow, the Republicans want to reach out!"
Reach out to what and with what?
Are they denouncing voter suppression laws?
No, of course. Are you crazy?
They don't want African Americans, Latinos and the poor to vote. That's the essence of their strategy. It worked in 2000 with Bush. That's the only way they can hope to win the presidency.
So, why is the media giving so much credibility to these announcements of 'reaching out?'
I just plain do not get it.
And they get all excited and repeat to one another: "Wow, the Republicans want to reach out!"
Reach out to what and with what?
Are they denouncing voter suppression laws?
No, of course. Are you crazy?
They don't want African Americans, Latinos and the poor to vote. That's the essence of their strategy. It worked in 2000 with Bush. That's the only way they can hope to win the presidency.
So, why is the media giving so much credibility to these announcements of 'reaching out?'
I just plain do not get it.
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Donald Trump is 70 years old. and he has a history with blacks. In the black community he is known primarily for two things; the DOJ lawsuit on his discriminatory real estate practices and his blanket and vocal condemnation of the black youths who were mistakingly arrested for the wilding incident in Central Park decades ago. His current comments on minorities are carefully crafted to make Republicans FEEL they are not voting for a racist.
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If one of Trump's enforcers shows up to supposedly "monitor" my polling place I'm calling the police. I will not have my voting be subjected to his intimidation.
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In October 1973, the Justice Department filed a civil rights case that accused the Trump firm, whose complexes contained 14,000 apartments, of violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968.
And now, after all these years he wants minorities to turn to him because they have 'nothing to lose." Remember what Maya Angelou said - "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
And now, after all these years he wants minorities to turn to him because they have 'nothing to lose." Remember what Maya Angelou said - "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
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The civil rights case was the first lawsuit against Trump, but by far not the last. He was recently sued (I believe here in Florida) for stiffing yet another contractor. Trump is not only a racist, misogynist and bigot, but he is also a true con artist only concerned about himself.
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What will happen if some of Trump's supporters show up at polling places armed with assault rifles? Will that cause a rigged election?
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I very much share PaulB's concern. Brandishing per the 2nd amendment greatly and caustically assaults the 1st amendment. The 1st amendment is first for a very good reason.
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Andrew Rosenthal nails it. After months of hearing Donald Trump turn up the usual Republican animosity towards blacks and Hispanics several notches by insulting people of color and blaming them for being freeloaders and mired in criminal activity, we cannot forget those racist riffs, no matter how Trump softens his tone.
You have to begrudgingly admire Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, for her skills at temporarily persuading him to stick to a prepared script and for her ability to give sincere non-answers about Trump’s contrived reaching out to minorities.
It Donald Trump has gone 48 hours without launching a verbal attack, Conway cheerily treats this as the equivalent of Trump’s never having wallowed in bigotry.
After Trump’s implausible dress rehearsals, donning the mantle of the new champion for people of color in front of all-white audiences, we’re told he’s going to try the spiel in front of black listeners.
Let’s face it, this is like Donald Trump’s quick, uninvited flight into flooded New Orleans. It’s not that he gives a damn about the folks in need. He just wants the photo opportunity and the chance to feign caring about black people.
It plays well to the white women in in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Cleveland, and Detroit.
You have to begrudgingly admire Trump’s campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, for her skills at temporarily persuading him to stick to a prepared script and for her ability to give sincere non-answers about Trump’s contrived reaching out to minorities.
It Donald Trump has gone 48 hours without launching a verbal attack, Conway cheerily treats this as the equivalent of Trump’s never having wallowed in bigotry.
After Trump’s implausible dress rehearsals, donning the mantle of the new champion for people of color in front of all-white audiences, we’re told he’s going to try the spiel in front of black listeners.
Let’s face it, this is like Donald Trump’s quick, uninvited flight into flooded New Orleans. It’s not that he gives a damn about the folks in need. He just wants the photo opportunity and the chance to feign caring about black people.
It plays well to the white women in in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Cleveland, and Detroit.
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The real Toxic Trump is the same evil incarnate as the Cunning Man, described by Sir Terry Pratchett in his 2010 novel, "I Shall Wear Midnight":
" Your power is only rumor and lies, she thought. You bore your way into people when they are uncertain and weak and worried and frightened, and they think their enemy is other people when their enemy is, and always will be, you—the master of lies. Outside, you are fearsome; inside you are weakness."
" Your power is only rumor and lies, she thought. You bore your way into people when they are uncertain and weak and worried and frightened, and they think their enemy is other people when their enemy is, and always will be, you—the master of lies. Outside, you are fearsome; inside you are weakness."
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I think that the Democrats and the NYTimes should be grateful to Donald Trump. If it were not for him, they would have nothing to talk about.
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That's not true: there is plenty to discuss in improving the standard of living for Americans and improving Americas standing in the world, working for better world peace, economic growth, racial equality, etc. Instead, we are wasting time discussing this orange haired clown. We would really be better off NOT talking about him.
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We need to talk about Donald Trump. He could possibly be leader of the free world. We need to listen carefully. There is ample evidence of instability, habitual lying, disdain for policy preferring "gut" decisions and possible true paranoia.
He is a master con man. He is unfit for the Presidency.
The NYTimes has plenty to talk about and has for generations.
He is a master con man. He is unfit for the Presidency.
The NYTimes has plenty to talk about and has for generations.
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Gosh,
I wish the last two paragraphs of this column were the first two, as well. Get the real message out there and don't wait until the end of the column!
I wish the last two paragraphs of this column were the first two, as well. Get the real message out there and don't wait until the end of the column!
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On the radio today, I heard a Black woman quoted as saying if somebody wants her vote they have to give her "steak" with it. She thinks Trump will do better, based on his stellar ability to scam and lie.
I despair at the human condition when people can fall for promises of "steak" from people whose public record includes theft and betrayal over a lifetime.
Though this is OT here, I am frustrated that people cannot appreciate that the Clinton Foundation does a lot of good. Has everyone forgotten that Obama, Bush and Clinton collaborated on AIDS? Here's Haiti:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Bush_Haiti_Fund
International efforts to solve problems are bound to have donors, some of them from countries with dubious antecedents. In a world where money doesn't discriminate, it is wrong to claim somebody who uses it for good should be tarred and feathered.
One would like to make a clean sweep, but in our world, letting only people who are corrupt use money is not going to work. That kind of unilateral disarmament cedes the field to greed and exploitation.
What is startling is that forming an entity to address world problems is being used as a basis for mistrust. This is so typical of the backwards tactics of Republican opposition.
How people are so gullible is quite a puzzle!
I despair at the human condition when people can fall for promises of "steak" from people whose public record includes theft and betrayal over a lifetime.
Though this is OT here, I am frustrated that people cannot appreciate that the Clinton Foundation does a lot of good. Has everyone forgotten that Obama, Bush and Clinton collaborated on AIDS? Here's Haiti:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Bush_Haiti_Fund
International efforts to solve problems are bound to have donors, some of them from countries with dubious antecedents. In a world where money doesn't discriminate, it is wrong to claim somebody who uses it for good should be tarred and feathered.
One would like to make a clean sweep, but in our world, letting only people who are corrupt use money is not going to work. That kind of unilateral disarmament cedes the field to greed and exploitation.
What is startling is that forming an entity to address world problems is being used as a basis for mistrust. This is so typical of the backwards tactics of Republican opposition.
How people are so gullible is quite a puzzle!
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During the presidential campaign of 1928, a circular published by the Republican Party claimed that if Herbert Hoover won there would be “a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.”
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Totally agree with Susan Anderson about charitable organizations that actually collect money promised (hint to Trump) and do good work (which, to Republicans,must surely be suspicious....)
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I heard that same interview in which, contrary to what you believe you heard, the woman described her vote and the black vote as "steak" and said she wanted salad and a potato if a candidate wanted her vote.
Misquoting her Statement doesn't help your argument, the gist of which, was that Minority voters were takers. How very Mitt Romney of you.
Misquoting her Statement doesn't help your argument, the gist of which, was that Minority voters were takers. How very Mitt Romney of you.
Let's start, Mr. "Real" Donald Trump, by repudiating your statement that your investigators were going to Hawaii to research President Obama's birth and that nobody would believe what they were finding.
He has tried to delegitimize our first African American president, said that most immigrants from Mexico were criminals and racists said that a U. S. - born judge of Mexican ancestry couldn't judge fairly, to demonize an entire religion for the actions of a few, attacked women because they menstruate and sometimes need to use the ladies' room -- I've watched Donald Trump say these things all year, so that's real. It's no joke.
Look, there are non-rich white people who are seeing their dreams trashed, but it's not the fault of people of color -- it's big business, the Donald Trumps of the world, who care more about profits from evading taxes and manufacturing abroad and smashing unions and lowering business taxes and removing health-preserving regulations and refusing to implement Medicaid in Republican-governed states. Donald Trump favors all of these things. For real.
He has tried to delegitimize our first African American president, said that most immigrants from Mexico were criminals and racists said that a U. S. - born judge of Mexican ancestry couldn't judge fairly, to demonize an entire religion for the actions of a few, attacked women because they menstruate and sometimes need to use the ladies' room -- I've watched Donald Trump say these things all year, so that's real. It's no joke.
Look, there are non-rich white people who are seeing their dreams trashed, but it's not the fault of people of color -- it's big business, the Donald Trumps of the world, who care more about profits from evading taxes and manufacturing abroad and smashing unions and lowering business taxes and removing health-preserving regulations and refusing to implement Medicaid in Republican-governed states. Donald Trump favors all of these things. For real.
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I'm a liberal Sanders supporter who has developed my view of Trump listening to him, taking the bad & slimey with the superb. For superb, I can list 1.) his annihilation of the reputation of GW Bush, 2.) his dismissal of the worthless Faux Noise bimbo Kelly, & 3.) his accurate categorization of the egotistical John McCain. He certainly does not mince words. Conversely every report on Trump is embellished or narrowed to add to the fright and focus on what offends the PC lunatics. I don't like the guy, but what I see the media doing is disgusting and ignorant. It's also telling, because it makes liberals seem afraid.
If Trump were 1/10th as evil, bad, vile, nasty, etc. as stories purport him to be, he'd not have won the GOP primary. So what we have is careerists beating the dead horse of badmouthing Donald Trump. Good luck with that.
If Trump were 1/10th as evil, bad, vile, nasty, etc. as stories purport him to be, he'd not have won the GOP primary. So what we have is careerists beating the dead horse of badmouthing Donald Trump. Good luck with that.
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As a liberal Sanders supporter, I really hope you'll support Hillary Clinton. Any vote not for her is a vote of Trump.
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CK, here's a Times story about a Justice Department accusation against Trumplethinskin and his father for housing discrimination, which they eventually settled. This is from 1973, well before anybody ever heard the term "PC."
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186612-major-landlord-accuse-of...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186612-major-landlord-accuse-of...
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CK:
Anybody who follows politics closely understands there's been an intense (and expensive) effort to make Trump appear unelectable. It is the only way that Hillary can appear electable. (How many times have you heard people say they are only voting for her because voting for him is unthinkable?)
The media is fully engaged in the effort to keep Trump from getting elected. Let's just say his supporters are on to them.
Anybody who follows politics closely understands there's been an intense (and expensive) effort to make Trump appear unelectable. It is the only way that Hillary can appear electable. (How many times have you heard people say they are only voting for her because voting for him is unthinkable?)
The media is fully engaged in the effort to keep Trump from getting elected. Let's just say his supporters are on to them.
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FDR was rich. That didn't stop him from understanding poor people. It isn't Trump's money that is the problem. It is his thought process, his ignorance and his grandiosity. He thinks of himself as wonderful, "the best," and a winner. He doesn't even speak in complete sentences most of the time. Instead its a disjointed, tangential, steam-of-consciousness. And those screeds are hate-filled baloney. His thoughts return to himself and his "wonderfulness" over and over. I still find it astounding that he is the GOP nominee. I am heartened by the number of sensible Republicans (although they are too few) who are disavowing Trump and pledging their votes to Hillary Clinton. She has made mistakes; she's far from perfect, but she has proposed some reasonable policy ideas. I believe she has the best interests of our country at heart, she is intelligent, and she isn't nuts!
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"The real Donald Trump" is coming. His campaign is recruiting poll watchers to make sure there's no rampant "voter fraud" to steal the election from Trump. I wonder if they'll wear uniforms? Brown shirts, or white sheets comes to mind... We already know the real Donald Trump. We've watched him on TV, and heard his speeches, read his incongruent drivel in interviews, seen all his 'ideas' for over a year now. Despite his efforts, he can't now change his nature... this would-be 'emperor has no clothes'.
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Does Mr. Rosenthal believe that blacks are incapable of hearing Mr. Trump if they're not standing in front of him? That they don't receive their news through the media like everyone else? They are hearing his message whether he is speaking to a sea of white faces of black faces.
What's fascinating is how everyone is speaking for blacks. Almost as fascinating as everyone's speaking for Trump. Somehow I doubt Mr. Rosenthal has an objective read on Trump or his supporters, which might just include blacks.
What's fascinating is how everyone is speaking for blacks. Almost as fascinating as everyone's speaking for Trump. Somehow I doubt Mr. Rosenthal has an objective read on Trump or his supporters, which might just include blacks.
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Yes Blacks have heard the dumpster trumpetize. That is why fewer than 2% nationally support him.
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As Bill Parcells put it, "you are what your record says you are." Here's what Trumplethinskin learned at his daddy's knee:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186612-major-landlord-accuse-of...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186612-major-landlord-accuse-of...
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Mr. Rosenthal has a very long journalistic career, whose job has been to cover topics objectively. Why do you doubt his objective read on Trump or his supporters, which according to you might just include blacks?
Don't you find is fascinating that he hasn't appeared before black organizations like the NAACP? Wouldn't that be a good place to start, if you truly had black lives as one of your concerns?
Don't you find is fascinating that he hasn't appeared before black organizations like the NAACP? Wouldn't that be a good place to start, if you truly had black lives as one of your concerns?
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Trump is an ungodly man. No one who follows Jesus Christ could support Trump. A camel cannot pass through the eye of a needle, and this man is not following Christ. His bigotry, his contempt for the poor, his degradation of women are not Christian and not American.
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Jeremy, I follow Jesus Christ and will vote for Trump. Hillary is a worse individual, she is so money hungry, at least Donald will not be giving speeches and using his Office like Hillary did!
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D. Mark, how could you possibly know what Donald Trump has done or has not done with the complete lack of transparency that characterizes his finances? We do know that his buildings have loans from Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and many other foreign entities.
And I'll add that I do not follow Jesus Christ and I will vote for Clinton, because her platform and record are compassionate and support the values I support.
And I'll add that I do not follow Jesus Christ and I will vote for Clinton, because her platform and record are compassionate and support the values I support.
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Trump apparently told NBC that if he won the election. he could still host "The Apprentice" from the Oval Office. Real classy!
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One needs to be fairly dense (if not outright stupid) to be a woman (women are not a minority, they are 51% of the population) or a minority, and support Donald Trump. As a reminder, this IS the Republican platform (from the RNC document):
What Republican’ts Stand for. This is taken from their 2016 RNC Platform document:
• Staunchly conservative platform
• Bars military women from combat
• Describes coal as a “clean” energy source
• Declares pornography a “public health crisis.”
• Demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating
• It encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools
• Many … amendments opposing gay and transgender rights. Nearly every provision … expressed disapproval of homosexuality, same-sex marriage or transgender rights
• The platform calls for overturning the Supreme Court marriage decision with a constitutional amendment and makes references to appointing judges “who respect traditional family values.”
• Additional provisions included those that promoted state laws to limit which restrooms transgender people could use
• Nodded to “conversion therapy” for gays
• Stated that “natural marriage” between a man and a woman is most likely to result in offspring who do not become drug-addicted or otherwise damaged.
• Though the initial draft called for building a “physical barrier” along the United States border with Mexico, that passage was amended to call specifically for a wall.
What Republican’ts Stand for. This is taken from their 2016 RNC Platform document:
• Staunchly conservative platform
• Bars military women from combat
• Describes coal as a “clean” energy source
• Declares pornography a “public health crisis.”
• Demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating
• It encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools
• Many … amendments opposing gay and transgender rights. Nearly every provision … expressed disapproval of homosexuality, same-sex marriage or transgender rights
• The platform calls for overturning the Supreme Court marriage decision with a constitutional amendment and makes references to appointing judges “who respect traditional family values.”
• Additional provisions included those that promoted state laws to limit which restrooms transgender people could use
• Nodded to “conversion therapy” for gays
• Stated that “natural marriage” between a man and a woman is most likely to result in offspring who do not become drug-addicted or otherwise damaged.
• Though the initial draft called for building a “physical barrier” along the United States border with Mexico, that passage was amended to call specifically for a wall.
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Kellyanne Conway to Rachel Maddow: "All Hillary Clinton talks about is Donald Trump, not policy how she is going to lead the country."
Really? Thinking she is a little mixed up. While her candidate has been telling everyone how he is going to make America great, and make the country amaaaazing for African Americans, and respecting the advice of Trump's lawyers by not showing his tax returns, building a big long powerful wall, and telling fibs about Hillary Clinton, (while Kellyanne is smiling with it all), we still wonder how exactly he is going to do this all.
But that is all part of the gig. Now it's part of Conway's gig too. Bigly, as Trump would say.
Really? Thinking she is a little mixed up. While her candidate has been telling everyone how he is going to make America great, and make the country amaaaazing for African Americans, and respecting the advice of Trump's lawyers by not showing his tax returns, building a big long powerful wall, and telling fibs about Hillary Clinton, (while Kellyanne is smiling with it all), we still wonder how exactly he is going to do this all.
But that is all part of the gig. Now it's part of Conway's gig too. Bigly, as Trump would say.
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No matter what they say and say and say about Hillary, examining her for 25 years and distrusting her for 25 years. Trump just wants to be on television, whether it is in Mississippi and bringing a FOREIGN LEADER to a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE'S rally? Give me a break. No matter doesn't make us trust the Presidency to a 12 year old with NO GOVERNMENTAL EXPERIENCE AT ALL. And besides a filthy MOUTH!
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What is the point of a long article about Trump and minorities? Trump is a total fraud and there is too much of the media treating him as a rational person. He is a stupid person and should be ignored. Please start ignoring him; he is a creature of Fox propaganda and nothing else.
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I wish we could. Please don't get complacent.
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If you believes y word of his "new" stance on minotprties, look ar his television ads, complete with the keeping us safe, keeping us secure theme.
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Both Hillary and Donald should have been disqualified from seeking the office of the presidency as a result of their inveterate lying and other unethical behavior. But Trump does at least speak the truth when he tells the audience that the elections are rigged. Without major election reforms (and Congressional reforms!) Americans will continue to get more of the same. . .
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Our elections are not rigged. Get a grip.....
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He's a monster. The presidential candidates will be dividing the diminishing planet for personal gain. His campaign is a disgrace. Paul Ryan is a disgrace. The RNC is despicable. We have no choice but the real Hillary Clinton who refuses to assess facts or console our concerns because she's to important. Obama was real - the real Obama - honest - intelligent - well intentioned. The real Trump is a winging it cowboy. At least Hillary has been elected and held important offices of service. The real Sanders is nuts. Good man gone nuts. We will never be socialist nor will we be an Islamic country. She better support our allies who are under siege. Trump is terrible but plays the reactive fear vote.
It's so scary that he occasionally seeks to make sense. Obviously that's momentary insanity in my part
It's so scary that he occasionally seeks to make sense. Obviously that's momentary insanity in my part
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Real Donald Trump.
Yeah yeah.
The Birther Movement. There's your 'real' Donald Trump.
His surrogates: a bunch of obnoxious loud-mouthed nuts lying & spinning, conspiracy-mongereing, belligerent with anyone who dares to question their act: Kellyanne Conway, Katrina Pierson, Kayleigh McEnany, Rudi Giuliani (!!!!!), Newt Gingrich. Bringing up the 'rear' Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen. Can you imagine having that guy as your 'personal attorney'?
It's a freak show! A carnival act! A well-thought out fraud being committed against the United States of America!
Donate money to Hillary. Volunteer for Hillary. Help register new voters - sane ones! Get out and vote.
Keep your fingers crossed. Say your prayers.
Yeah yeah.
The Birther Movement. There's your 'real' Donald Trump.
His surrogates: a bunch of obnoxious loud-mouthed nuts lying & spinning, conspiracy-mongereing, belligerent with anyone who dares to question their act: Kellyanne Conway, Katrina Pierson, Kayleigh McEnany, Rudi Giuliani (!!!!!), Newt Gingrich. Bringing up the 'rear' Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen. Can you imagine having that guy as your 'personal attorney'?
It's a freak show! A carnival act! A well-thought out fraud being committed against the United States of America!
Donate money to Hillary. Volunteer for Hillary. Help register new voters - sane ones! Get out and vote.
Keep your fingers crossed. Say your prayers.
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Der Spiegel English edition had an article on the Trump campaign. The comments were ALL attacks on Clinton and praise for Trump, including a number that attacked Ms. Merkel saying that she was just as bad as Clinton or worse, one referred to the fascists in Kiev, and another one said the sender would not be surprised if Trump won all 50 states. The Guardian has long been famous (or infamous) because of the high number of trolls in its comments section with nothing to say but anti-Clinton and Obama insults. It would be a shame if the New York Times were to allow this sort of population to take over its comments sections. If they do many of us will stop reading, let alone commenting.
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Man up. We, republicans, have been putting up with liberals at The Times forever.
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The real question is what have African-Americans got to gain by voting for Trump? The truth is: absolutely nothing.
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Like the stain War "What's it good for" Nuthin!" "Absolutely positively nothing"
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It's a worthwhile question to ask how limiting illegal immigration will affect those in low wage jobs.
The real question is, "Why are democrats so reluctant to ask this question?" The truth is democrats are too heavily invested in illegal immigration.
The real question is, "Why are democrats so reluctant to ask this question?" The truth is democrats are too heavily invested in illegal immigration.
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Frankly I can't stand him. On the other hand Hilary's inability to make a sincere power statement about her mistakes is unbearable. I feel for the first time that she might lose. What an idiotic mess. Who will be better dealing with the inertia of global problems, food and water shortages and disease such as Zika spreading because of drought and global warming. The rain forest devastation will finish our planet.
What good is their power then. Where are all the candidates boot licking entertainers on anything of merit? The news coverage is terrible too.
What good is their power then. Where are all the candidates boot licking entertainers on anything of merit? The news coverage is terrible too.
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Well HRC is your candidate. That fact reflects the absurdity of our political system. That such s flawed candidate could win the dem nomination is hard to believe. She actually might lose; lately she has been in hiding waiting for this latest foundation scandal to disappear. She hasn't had a press conference in 9 months and all of her shirt interviews r very controlled. I can't believe Joe Biden didn't run. Alas we r left with Hillary. I would bet that foundation emails will eventually doom her. The libs should be demanding she drop out and draft Buden.
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I feel your emotion. Poor Joe Biden losing his son and Obama having the friendship and respect to wait for his VP and friend Joe to decide. But Joe explained it. Sad.
The error is that Clinton is not doing the same, but her minority is the GOPs grumpy old patriots who want their America to be great again, but who do not yet recognize the obstacle.
Some are unreachable, the racist underbelly, but many are driven by a dissatisfaction for their lot and the establishment they hold to blame. They are convertible. Give them a tangible target: emphasize what the government would have done for them if the Republicans had not blocked every good idea from the White House. Yes government does little for them, because those who controlled Congress have no interest in them except as votes, forgotten once cast.
Go get 'me, Hillary!
Some are unreachable, the racist underbelly, but many are driven by a dissatisfaction for their lot and the establishment they hold to blame. They are convertible. Give them a tangible target: emphasize what the government would have done for them if the Republicans had not blocked every good idea from the White House. Yes government does little for them, because those who controlled Congress have no interest in them except as votes, forgotten once cast.
Go get 'me, Hillary!
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There is no "real" Donald Trump. He's utterly superficial -- nothing there.
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Donald Trump has simply told the truth, we must do something about illegal immigration and our porous borders. You have to admit we have a problem when we have ten to twenty million illegal immigrants here and we do not know who they are, where they are at or what they are doing?
Just one short fact, in FY-2014 the fifty States sent 28,636 non-U.S. Citizens to our Federal Prison system at an average cost per inmate of $30,619.85 ($83.89) per day. State of New York contributed 653 individuals to that number.
Just one short fact, in FY-2014 the fifty States sent 28,636 non-U.S. Citizens to our Federal Prison system at an average cost per inmate of $30,619.85 ($83.89) per day. State of New York contributed 653 individuals to that number.
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Have you noticed that the democrats have avoided the subject? If anything, they are hostile to actions to apprehend and deport illegal immigrants. Their misleading deportation numbers, which include turnaways at the border, hide the fact that deportations within the borders have dropped significantly.
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Americans are too lazy to do the back breaking work these immigrants do daily.....
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Draw Man:
What do you think would happen if there were no illegal immigrants to perform those jobs?
What do you think would happen if there were no illegal immigrants to perform those jobs?
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Donald Trump's African-American "outreach" is completely phony and is only a feeble attempt to stop his cratering poll numbers. We know exactly who the real Donald Trump is: he doubted the citizenship of the first black president, called for the execution of the Central Park 5, and has been extolling the virtues of unfair voter id laws. The real Donald Trump is a racist.
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Trump's idea of a rigged election is one in which everyone can vote.
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Bloody well right.
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Real Donald Trump?
Yeah yeah.
Racist, cheat, compulsive liar, con man, fraud, adulterer, delusional, bully, conspiracy monger, embarrassment, misogynist, serial bankrupt, anti-American, ignorant, false prophet, blah blah blah.
A man without decency, without personal honor, without any sense of responsibility, apparently without a conscience, brimming with unconscionable 'ideas.'
His only talents: his ability to sell himself to people who aren't paying attention, unloading on Twitter.
I pray our great country survives this.
Yeah yeah.
Racist, cheat, compulsive liar, con man, fraud, adulterer, delusional, bully, conspiracy monger, embarrassment, misogynist, serial bankrupt, anti-American, ignorant, false prophet, blah blah blah.
A man without decency, without personal honor, without any sense of responsibility, apparently without a conscience, brimming with unconscionable 'ideas.'
His only talents: his ability to sell himself to people who aren't paying attention, unloading on Twitter.
I pray our great country survives this.
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Trump's pitch to black Americans reminds me of the condescending Hollywood meme of the white hero who comes in to save the hapless black team, gang, etc. Of course, his base will eat it up because it's a feel-good story- for white people.
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Ouch, as a white person I know what you mean but it still hurts a little. But I'm not his base and I'm not eating it up as most whites aren't, I also think you will find him rejected by 'white people' on Election Day. Perhaps someday we can talk and be friends! I'm looking forward to it.
We've already met the real Drumpf. He's an ugly excuse for a human being: a vile, crass, no-class sociopathic egomaniac with all the qualifications of an under-developed 15 year old schoolyard bully. And, a total con man.
Demonstrably unqualified for the office of POTUS.
Humpty fell from the wall long ago. Kellyanne, pig Roger and the basher from breitbart will not be able to re-package this sack of offal.
Demonstrably unqualified for the office of POTUS.
Humpty fell from the wall long ago. Kellyanne, pig Roger and the basher from breitbart will not be able to re-package this sack of offal.
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After Donald Trump meets with minorities they probably go home and take a shower.
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Really, really, really looking forward to Mr. Rosenthal's next column: Get Ready for the "Real" Hillary Clinton.
Should be a compelling piece, as there is a wealth of material.
Oh, I forgot. Mrs. Clinton is a Democrat - which means she cannot be criticized.
Should be a compelling piece, as there is a wealth of material.
Oh, I forgot. Mrs. Clinton is a Democrat - which means she cannot be criticized.
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Read Maureen Dowd, Ross Douthat or even David Brooks, Alex. There you will find criticism a-plenty.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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Cannot be criticized? Have you just now gotten out of bed and read the papers, surfed the internet and listened to talk radio? Hillary has spent her life being criticized. Trump is a whining baby who is just now hearing what people really think of him and he (and, apparently, you) can't take it. What will he do as President when 50% of the people will disagree with him every time he opens his mouth?
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@LBarkan: the crucial difference here is the implication that Hillary Clinton, despite all the supposedly unfair criticism, has always kept it real. Unlike Trump, she'll never be found pandering to voters, and will never change her position on important issues for the sake of political advantage. That is manifestly absurd. Just look at her one-eighties on gay marriage, the Iraq war, the 2000 bankruptcy bill, illegal immigrants, privatized prisons, and many others.
The "real" Donald Trump is not a politician and he's not running a political campaign. He's not even running for president. He's running to be the next Rupert Murdoch -- he has his sights set on becoming the next mogul of right-wing media. This is why he's doubled down on being outrageous: firing Manafort, a professional political adviser, and bringing in Bannon and Roger Ailes -- two of the most powerful figures in right-wing media. His political campaign from day one has been about enhancing his "brand" -- and his brand, in so far as his post-election media ambitions are concerned, is about being outrageous. See, e.g., Sarah Palin who also was not a politician, and had the same zero interest in governing, and who was so eager to cash in on the celebrity she had achieved through politics that she quit as Alaska's governor halfway through her term to kick off her real career as a highly paid T.V. personality and speech giver.
So where does that leave the GOP? In the lurch as a wasting asset, i.e., in the same position as one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos after he got through stripping it of all value as collateral for his other plans and left his investors, suppliers, and workers to twist in the wind. A fate, insofar as the GOP is concerned, which is richly, richly deserved.
So where does that leave the GOP? In the lurch as a wasting asset, i.e., in the same position as one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos after he got through stripping it of all value as collateral for his other plans and left his investors, suppliers, and workers to twist in the wind. A fate, insofar as the GOP is concerned, which is richly, richly deserved.
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Trump pivoted from being hostile and insulting to minorities to being condescending . He is condescending not only to minorities but also to the educated white people that are the real target of the so called pivot . These educated whites are not stupid and know he is a racist . I find disgusting when some TV talking heads say that they have known him for many years and they know he is not a racist . Of course he is a racist . If you have a friend who is a pedophile , or once robbed a bank , would you be able to say that you are certain the allegations are not true because you know the guy socially ?
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People leave a trail behind them, all their lives. The bread crumbs are there for the finding and very telling. To Mr. Trump and his 'minority outreach,' I'd like to ask: what were you DOING in 1965? In 1968? You were discriminating, was what you were doing, Mr. Landlord Trump. The patronizing tone of "what do you have to lose" is as jaw-dropping as the rest of his lies.
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Somebody on this thread has been watching too much "Mr Robot".
"Insta-Utopia" is not going to happen because humanity is messy.
Gird up your loins and move the ball down the field in the right direction.
"Insta-Utopia" is not going to happen because humanity is messy.
Gird up your loins and move the ball down the field in the right direction.
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"A kinder, gentler Donald Trump" who cares about minorities???
Pull the other one.
Pull the other one.
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Are you for real?
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The ethically-challenged Kellyanne Conway -- fully aware that the odious Mr. Trump has already proven himself to be an unmitigated disaster for our country -- is now traveling around the country trying to repair his image; while being praised to the skies by some liberal commentators at MSNBC who are afraid of being viewed as unfair to Mr. Trump, as if such a thing was possible.
Could there ever be a worse marriage under heaven? Mr. Trump, Ms. Conway and MSNBC?
Could there ever be a worse marriage under heaven? Mr. Trump, Ms. Conway and MSNBC?
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Second that. Just saw Rachel Maddow fawning all over Conway. Embarrassing -- for Maddow.
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There is no 'real' Donald Trump.
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Somewhat as an aside, the following passage caught my attention:
"It was hard to believe him on Tuesday, especially when he subsequently made a point of saying that he will “100 percent” build that wall along the Mexican border."
The comment struck me as an example of MSM pussyfootin'. To say of Trump that he's "hard to believe" is an understatement of astronomical proportion. Trump is a "pathological liar" (Cruz). He lies about lying. There is no good reason to believe anything he says. Pick the topic, from birther to the Cruz/Oswald "connection", to Hillary's sleeping through the Benghazi mess, and, most recently, to Hillary's health..... pick the topic and you uncover lies. It's not "hard" to believe him. One CAN'T believe him.
But, hey, nobody's perfect.
"It was hard to believe him on Tuesday, especially when he subsequently made a point of saying that he will “100 percent” build that wall along the Mexican border."
The comment struck me as an example of MSM pussyfootin'. To say of Trump that he's "hard to believe" is an understatement of astronomical proportion. Trump is a "pathological liar" (Cruz). He lies about lying. There is no good reason to believe anything he says. Pick the topic, from birther to the Cruz/Oswald "connection", to Hillary's sleeping through the Benghazi mess, and, most recently, to Hillary's health..... pick the topic and you uncover lies. It's not "hard" to believe him. One CAN'T believe him.
But, hey, nobody's perfect.
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"When someone shows you who they really are, believe them the first time."--Maya Angelou
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Trump has spent his life talking at people. I don't think he knows how to talk to people.
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We've all seen the real Donald Trump and noted his inability to respond to others appropriately. What we are now seeing is Donald Trump on psychotropic medication. His ideas have not really changed but the medication has modified their delivery. There are many medicines to help people with Donald's disability and we should sympathise with those who need to use them. However, there is always a risk that the patient will stop taking the medication and revert to previous behaviour. Often they like being the old Real Me better than the new Real Me. That is why staff in psychiatric rehabilitation units need to see the pills swallowed.
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He's not welcome in my neighborhood.
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How ironic: This is the same bigoted trump who questioned the citizenship of the first African American president. His lies, bigotry have no bottom.
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When Donald Trump wants to reach out to minorities, I feel like checkingto see that he doesn't have something sharp in his hands.
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Or that he's reaching into their pockets.
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I can't wait for the debates.
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I can't wait for Nov 9th. That will be the day Donald J. Trump will know what he had to lose by not getting the minority and female vote.
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I will give Trump my benefit of the doubt, because he is being authentic.
He is telling minorities: "you have nothing, your lives are nothing. Ergo, voting for me, you have nothing to lose."
He has 9% support among Blacks. I guess the message works with someone. In his business, all he has to do is stiff 9% of the people all the time, and laugh all the way to the bank.
Kalidan
He is telling minorities: "you have nothing, your lives are nothing. Ergo, voting for me, you have nothing to lose."
He has 9% support among Blacks. I guess the message works with someone. In his business, all he has to do is stiff 9% of the people all the time, and laugh all the way to the bank.
Kalidan
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Trump message to blacks is based on his discussion with 100 black pastors. When you ridicule him, you ridicule them.
He has more support among blacks than people realize. Not all blacks allow black talking heads and/or white democrats to speak for them.
He has more support among blacks than people realize. Not all blacks allow black talking heads and/or white democrats to speak for them.
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That the NYT would recommend this boggles my mind, Hired someone from Faux fair and balanced, perhaps?
Need to represent the uneducated, undiscriminating?
Need to represent the uneducated, undiscriminating?
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Since when did Trump have discussions with 100 black pastors? If he met with them I would wager that he did VERY little listening and a lot of "top down" lecturing. Trump knows everything about everything and his empathy doesn't extend past the end of his nose.
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Trump's presumed outreach to minorities is a con. Right out of the "Art of the Deal" --which he didn't write but took full credit for just the same. According to the author, Trump was incapable of even sitting for an interview. The current version, 'The Art of the Con', is orchestrated by a soul less pollster turned campaign manager and con artist named Con-way. Can't make this stuff up.
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It seems that tomorrow, Donald Trump will hold an invitation-only event for selected minorities -- African American, Hispanic and maybe some other hand-picked folks -- to be received by him in his own Trump Tower. That's "outreach" according to The Donald.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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I've completely erased the the real Donald J. Trump off my radar screen. After a year of Trump and his antics we all know what he really is, an aggressive, often overtly racist, constantly lying xenophobe. I don't need more data. It's funny, don't you think, that supposed bright visionary Republicans like Paul Ryan have not by now seen the real Donald Trump, too? Maybe Ryan has been blinded to the real Trump by the blizzard of meaningless Hillary emails right wing, Koch supported, Jason Chaffetz throws at him. But if an outsider like me could see the real Donald Trump one would have wonder why insiders like Ryan and Chaffetz couldn't see him.
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I wonder if the real Donald Trump has an inner life at all.
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"inner life" for djt is being inside one of his Towers?
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Incredible that having a candidate who can follow a prepared speech without putting his foot in his mouth is now considered so great an improvement that it is newsworthy. People listen to me - Trump cannot do the job. Not at all. For all the other reasons for not wanting Trump, this is the one never to forget: Trump can not do the job.
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I think it was 2011 or thereabouts when Trump said he sent his investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama's birth certificate, and "they couldn't believe what they were finding." If I had one question to ask, it would be what was the result of those findings. Good luck with an answer.
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And what were the supposed investigators' names, given that they never existed.
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The remarkable thing for me is how Republicans who still support Trump are trying to spin his attempt to walk back his deportation rhetoric as being consistent with his earlier position. His pathetic gesture toward blacks and Latinos (as critics point out, more likely a play for suburban white women) may lose him votes from his rabid, poorly-educated white male base. Perhaps a better politician than Trump could pull it off but nuance is hardly his strong suit.
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Why all the fuss?
Trump is only staying true to form, straight-up con man that he is.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, is a potential mark for this guy.
He maligns when it suits his purpose, and he appeals when it suits his purpose.
So now its "What do you have to lose?"
(But does he really think African-Americans and Latinos
want to have anything to do with a Trump coalition that
includes white-supremacists?)
Trump is only staying true to form, straight-up con man that he is.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, is a potential mark for this guy.
He maligns when it suits his purpose, and he appeals when it suits his purpose.
So now its "What do you have to lose?"
(But does he really think African-Americans and Latinos
want to have anything to do with a Trump coalition that
includes white-supremacists?)
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I really appreciate this article because for the opportunity to ask Donald Trump to stop talking to Black people, about Black people or for Black people. He has long ago insulted us when he demanded President Obama produce his birth certificate and his Harvard transcript while he Trump cannot even produce routine tax return. Mr. Trump is demanding proof of identity from others when it's his identity which is questionable. So, please Mr. Trump Blacks do have a lot to lose voting for you. Blacks will lose self-respect, our humanity our determination to survive even when many odds are against us – including fair education, employment, legal system, voting rights – to mention a few. Yet we have learned long ago and even recently from Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela, whom people behaved like you have assassinated and imprisoned. Yet Blacks have never given up hope as President Obama keeps reminding us. So yes, Mr. Trump, Blacks do have a lot to lose. No, we are not multibillionaires but we are not suicidal because we are poor, we are not ISIS as you implied nor live in war zones as you stated. Most importantly, we are not as stupid as you think. Black people alone did not elect President Obama, not once but twice- so we do have evidence that millions of other Americans, especially white Americans, care about Black people even if those who support you don’t. So thanks for your invitation to help Blacks. However, at this time we will pass.
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Hillary Clinton initiated the "birther" question. Interesting that she is not being held responsible for it by blacks.
Question: Why is Donald Trump being held responsible for every offense ever experienced by every black person in the country? That seems a bit racist to me.
Question: Why is Donald Trump being held responsible for every offense ever experienced by every black person in the country? That seems a bit racist to me.
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Here's some racist housing discrimination in which he was actually complicit: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2186612-major-landlord-accuse-of...
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Horrible education? Just look to Brownback and company in OK. They've cut back so far on education that they are now scrambling to fill a gap of 500 teachers they need desperately. And it's not just the blacks suffering. The Republican Party doesn't play favorites except when it comes to supporting the rich or the poor.
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What Brownback did to Kansas is what the Republicans would like to do to he whole nation.
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Republicans felt that they had a great candidate. A megalomaniac sociopath. He is little by little showing how much he is benefiting from this campaing. He figure out how to pay himself as much as he can. A megalomaniac that it is probably 1/10 of rich of what he claims. A ponzi scheme master and all the GOP felt let him open the mouth and he will say what we think and never have the guts to say it. He will not get far. Now they do not have the courage to remove their support, he is too far. I will never trust Ryan, Rubio, Senile McCain and Mitchell. They do not care for the people but they care for themselves and egos. Always involving and blaming God, leaving out the important needs of the country and looking for excuses to do not improve the lives of those in the most need. They have shown how racists they are by blocking every thing President Obama has tried to do. Not that everything needed to be a blank check or that everybody needs to agree with Obama decisions. But they block the most things they could that may have benefited the American public.
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I'm shocked that a Democratic civic leader like Butterfield responded negatively to Trump's new appeal to African American voters. It had everything to do with his racial identity, right?
Thank goodness that the liberal gatekeepers like this author are here to judge for minorities the proper way that they should be spoken to.
Thank goodness that the liberal gatekeepers like this author are here to judge for minorities the proper way that they should be spoken to.
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Well I think that those 60% of Americans who think that Trump is biased against minorities and women have an incomplete view of the man - he's biased against anyone whose name is not Trump.
"Poverty", like beauty, is subjective, "in the eye of the beholder". From Trump's vantage point, almost all of us live in poverty. In that sense, he's right, but he really has no clue what the lives of ordinary people, black or white, are like.
Deep-felt feeling? How deep? Apparently not deep enough for The Donald to reach into his pocket and donate to charitable causes.
"Poverty", like beauty, is subjective, "in the eye of the beholder". From Trump's vantage point, almost all of us live in poverty. In that sense, he's right, but he really has no clue what the lives of ordinary people, black or white, are like.
Deep-felt feeling? How deep? Apparently not deep enough for The Donald to reach into his pocket and donate to charitable causes.
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Actually, telling white audiences how bad off people of color simply reinforces the racism of his base, about "those people." Moreover, it enables him to blame the victims, because they have supported Democrats.
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This is the standard Republican ploy. It's not about reaching out to people of color; instead, it's to provide the appearance of not being racist in order to appeal to moderates and allow the Republicans to disavow the taint of racism.
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Can we all just accept that if you are a Trump supporter you are either stupid, mentally ill, a racist, or some combination of all of these. I now look at Trump supporters the way I view people who smoke cigarettes in a car with children. I will not hire a Trump supporter and would look for cause to fire one from my business, if I had one working for me. This is not because of their ethnic origin, religion or disability. It is because of their behavior and my ability to trust their judgement. If you are a Trump supporter, I will join the effort to marginalize you from the prevailing culture.
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The REAL Donald Trump is best suited to host a TV game show. (To all current TV game show hosts, this comment is not intended as an insult, but rather to identify the different skill sets associated with a TV game show host and that with the President of the United States of America).
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Apparently Trump has discovered there is no "Lost Tribe" of conservative white people in the jungle up the river (Mississippi?) big enough for him to get elected. So now he's looking for a "Lost Tribe" of minorities so stupid and out of touch with modern communications that they would buy his snake oil. No such tribe, Donald, of any stripe.
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Haven't most people already seen enough of the Donald Trumps (version 0.9, 1.0, 2.0 and OCRAP.0)? Features seem to come and go, bugs remain. and the user interface seems even more retched now that professional political strategies have hacked into his brain and ego and seized control ("Crooked Hillary needs a special prosecutor! She and Bill have robbed the foundation! I will get 95% of the African-American vote!").
If we look at the source code, not only for all of the campaign versions but for the many that came before, we will find the signature style throughout that is consistent and obvious: the REAL Donald Trump is a spoiled, rich frat kid who never grew up, is used to having his way on everything, is a tyrant who intimidates, sues and threatens anyone who disagrees with him or he perceives as less capable (that would be anyone), and has the moral compass of a sociopath. What else do we need to know?
If we look at the source code, not only for all of the campaign versions but for the many that came before, we will find the signature style throughout that is consistent and obvious: the REAL Donald Trump is a spoiled, rich frat kid who never grew up, is used to having his way on everything, is a tyrant who intimidates, sues and threatens anyone who disagrees with him or he perceives as less capable (that would be anyone), and has the moral compass of a sociopath. What else do we need to know?
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"Horrible education"? Boy does that burn me up, I live in Akron and my tax dollars have gone to fund privately owned, sub-par charter schools that are short changing our kids' education. It is not our Democratic mayor but our Republican Governor and his lackeys in the legislature that have enabled them and, as of this week, blocked improved oversight of these colossal failures.
Make no mistake, neither Donald Trump nor the party he represents gives a flying fig about your kids' education.
Here is the link from my local paper:
http://www.ohio.com/editorial/editorials/scandalous-at-the-statehouse-1....
Make no mistake, neither Donald Trump nor the party he represents gives a flying fig about your kids' education.
Here is the link from my local paper:
http://www.ohio.com/editorial/editorials/scandalous-at-the-statehouse-1....
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Andrew, a 'Real' Donald Trump is nothing but the same bigoted Trump, a real wolf in sheep's clothing.
I know he's trying to to pivot towards the national election from the bitter primaries but it's really a long way to go for a man who built his reputation as one of the most racist individuals that ever came to this world.
His comments on Obama and his actions against the Black protesters at his rallies showed the man has no 'true feelings' for anybody other than his all White uneducated supporters.
So it's utterly irresponsible on his part to force change the direction of his campaign in the middle of a bitter campaign which is only 70 or odd days away.
Actually he could've pulled off this miracle of grabbing all the minority votes, mainly the Black votes if he had cared about their support beforehand instead of throwing one flame after another at all the minorities, starting against the Mexicans when he called them ''Rapists, drug dealers, murderers'' in his very first Campaign announcement last June in Trump Tower.
Although he achieved success after success before finally clinching the nomination, but that success itself put him in a bind or a hole from where his followers won't allow him to pivot anymore because all they wanted from Trump was blood of the innocents and Trump provided them with the promise to spill the blood of the Mexicans, Muslims and the Black people in the form of deportations and exclusions and totally ignoring the plight of the African-Americans.
I know he's trying to to pivot towards the national election from the bitter primaries but it's really a long way to go for a man who built his reputation as one of the most racist individuals that ever came to this world.
His comments on Obama and his actions against the Black protesters at his rallies showed the man has no 'true feelings' for anybody other than his all White uneducated supporters.
So it's utterly irresponsible on his part to force change the direction of his campaign in the middle of a bitter campaign which is only 70 or odd days away.
Actually he could've pulled off this miracle of grabbing all the minority votes, mainly the Black votes if he had cared about their support beforehand instead of throwing one flame after another at all the minorities, starting against the Mexicans when he called them ''Rapists, drug dealers, murderers'' in his very first Campaign announcement last June in Trump Tower.
Although he achieved success after success before finally clinching the nomination, but that success itself put him in a bind or a hole from where his followers won't allow him to pivot anymore because all they wanted from Trump was blood of the innocents and Trump provided them with the promise to spill the blood of the Mexicans, Muslims and the Black people in the form of deportations and exclusions and totally ignoring the plight of the African-Americans.
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The fear of the Democrats is palpable. His popularity is because of his policies, and because he is an "outsider." Hillary represents the WORST in corrupt, establishment politicians.
The elites, globalists, crony capitalists, free-traders, open borders fanatics, identity politics grifters, establishment shills, neocons, Big Media and the NYT, have all tried to take Donald Trump down any way they can because he threatens their easy and profitable way of life and the lies they have pushed about the unequal economy that doesn't work for many of us.
They've attacked Trump and it doesn't work.
They've attacked Trump's supporters and it doesn't work.
They've attacked his endorsers and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as racist and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as xenophobic and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as lies and it doesn't work.
And they continue to attack, demean, belittle, bully, scream, threaten and tell us the world will end with Trump in the White House. It doesn't work.
The NYT can't or won't understand that the corruption of the status quo has hit a place that people will only accept the new. And they can't accept, like many liberals that it is not a matter of "just understanding it better" to like THEIR policies. No. People are rejecting Hillary's policies and what she stands for.
Change, the economy, jobs and illegal immigration are the issues. And no amount of ignoring that will make Hillary win.
The elites, globalists, crony capitalists, free-traders, open borders fanatics, identity politics grifters, establishment shills, neocons, Big Media and the NYT, have all tried to take Donald Trump down any way they can because he threatens their easy and profitable way of life and the lies they have pushed about the unequal economy that doesn't work for many of us.
They've attacked Trump and it doesn't work.
They've attacked Trump's supporters and it doesn't work.
They've attacked his endorsers and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as racist and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as xenophobic and it doesn't work.
They've attacked the policies as lies and it doesn't work.
And they continue to attack, demean, belittle, bully, scream, threaten and tell us the world will end with Trump in the White House. It doesn't work.
The NYT can't or won't understand that the corruption of the status quo has hit a place that people will only accept the new. And they can't accept, like many liberals that it is not a matter of "just understanding it better" to like THEIR policies. No. People are rejecting Hillary's policies and what she stands for.
Change, the economy, jobs and illegal immigration are the issues. And no amount of ignoring that will make Hillary win.
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So much time and effort to post this. You must not work either?
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"the corruption of the status quo" implies the alternative could not possibly be corrupt? Let's have a little logic, occasionally. It does not hurt that much.
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One would hope that informed voters could see through the machinations of a trumped-up candidate/salesman telling them anything to close a deal. A candidate whose entire life is about using people, taking advantage of them for his own personal enrichment and his own aggrandizement. A man who breaks contracts with banks, workers, investors, contractors, even the RNC. A candidate who lies so readily that the lie/truth ratio is 4/1. A man who would lie about his opponents family, or health. A candidate so filled with racist, and misogynistic hatred he exhorts crowds into frenzies. A man who embraces Russian thugs and refuses to disavow American KKK.
But with the public's short attention span, and acclimation to sounds bites, and aversion to thinking in depth, I fear that rather than despise this demagogue, they believe his sales pitch.
Please, people, understand no amount of lipstick can fundamentally change this Trump. Do not believe this man.
But with the public's short attention span, and acclimation to sounds bites, and aversion to thinking in depth, I fear that rather than despise this demagogue, they believe his sales pitch.
Please, people, understand no amount of lipstick can fundamentally change this Trump. Do not believe this man.
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Reach out from where? Will he do a one-eighty from his trash mouth campaign? From his history of not paying the blue collar contractors who built his casinos? The only thing that is blue collar about Trump is when he wears a blue shirt.
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Ah, but you are assuming that he is actually trying to convince minority voters to vote for him. I think it's more likely that he's trying to do damage control with the white swing voters who worry about electing a racist, but who could be swayed by a fig-leaf attempt to reach out to minorities. He is not going to want to be confronted or challenged, so after a few token attempts to engage with minorities, he'll go back to giving these comments in front of the overwhelmingly white crowds who might actually believe his arguments that all minorities live in apocalyptic urban wastelands and would be better served by "change."
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Poverty - Discrimination in hiring. Failure to raise the minimum wage. The money saved by outsourcing could have been at least partially re-invested in the communities where the jobs were lost.
Rejection - Republican state legislatures trying to invalidate the right to vote under the guise of non-existent voter fraud.
Horrible Education - School investment based on local tax base. Fiscal death spiral.
Loss of Manufacturing Jobs - Trade war. Everybody loses. Invest in new jobs, stop trying to get back jobs that are never coming back (like coal mining).
No Housing - Documented discrimination in lending. Set up to fail.
Crime Levels - Guns everywhere. Lead poisoning. Poverty. Lack of investment.
Rejection - Republican state legislatures trying to invalidate the right to vote under the guise of non-existent voter fraud.
Horrible Education - School investment based on local tax base. Fiscal death spiral.
Loss of Manufacturing Jobs - Trade war. Everybody loses. Invest in new jobs, stop trying to get back jobs that are never coming back (like coal mining).
No Housing - Documented discrimination in lending. Set up to fail.
Crime Levels - Guns everywhere. Lead poisoning. Poverty. Lack of investment.
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It shows how far Trump has lowered the bar for Republican political discourse that one generalized non-apology, a weekend of semi-coherent speeches read from the teleprompter, and a fact-free show of "concern" reeking of condescension for black and Latino/a voters delivered to mostly-white audiences are spun as some great renaissance moment of his campaign. As Kevin Drum recently said, it's exactly the way we praise a two-year-old for not throwing food around the kitchen!
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One minute, Trump feigns sincerity in asking for minority votes. Next minute, he's out inciting his white followers to intimidate voters in specific areas of their state - clearly referring to urban areas, largely populated by minorities.
He is the most transparent candidate in history.
He is the most transparent candidate in history.
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The media have been relatively silent about Trump's embrace of Breitbart's Stephen Bannon as its new CEO. Ex editor of Breitbart's website, Ben Shapiro, recently wrote in the Washington Post that Bannon was, "a man who helped transform a mainstream conservative website into a cesspool of the alt-right."
"Broad swaths of the alt-right...believe in a creed-free, race based nationalism, insisting, among others things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passe; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It's a movement shot through with racism and anti Semitism." Further, he said that some of the comments at Breitbart's website had been dominated by white supremacists and anti-Semites. Shapiro says he will not support Trump. When will the mainstream media look into this and give it the attention it deserves? I suppose we'll have to wait until the press stops hyperventilating over Hillary Clinton's emails.
"Broad swaths of the alt-right...believe in a creed-free, race based nationalism, insisting, among others things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passe; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It's a movement shot through with racism and anti Semitism." Further, he said that some of the comments at Breitbart's website had been dominated by white supremacists and anti-Semites. Shapiro says he will not support Trump. When will the mainstream media look into this and give it the attention it deserves? I suppose we'll have to wait until the press stops hyperventilating over Hillary Clinton's emails.
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I (almost) enjoy watching him try to marry his normal, frothy, stream of consciousness Bund style hate speeches with the awkward assist of his new team-vetted TelePrompTer scripts. He's clearly so uncomfortable, and never more so when he's forced to do "outreach". The asides are priceless, and the only way he has to preen.
This ignorant, opportunistic lout has demeaned and insulted every conceivable demographic (fire marshals, really?), every treasured American value and institution, and every civil or civilized notion for far too long. He's inflamed legitimate grievances, resentment and fear in ways that continue to beggar belief. Keep talking Donald. Be yourself. The Alt-Right loves you, but even they haven't figured out your long con yet.
This ignorant, opportunistic lout has demeaned and insulted every conceivable demographic (fire marshals, really?), every treasured American value and institution, and every civil or civilized notion for far too long. He's inflamed legitimate grievances, resentment and fear in ways that continue to beggar belief. Keep talking Donald. Be yourself. The Alt-Right loves you, but even they haven't figured out your long con yet.
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Not much room to improve on Mr. Rosenthal's brief article.
The "real" teleprompter reading Donald Trump is going to have difficulty when it boils down to a one-on-one debate and this magic little device is nowhere in sight.
The "real" Donald Trump rarely speaks in complete sentences, is wedded to superlatives which he repeats while his brain tries to catch up with his mouth, and will probably go ballistic when --and if-- he does actually speak in front of an audience where a white face is the rarity. "There's my Caucasian!" That line, at least, might get a laugh. Stony silence if not outright hostility is what he should be prepared for.
The "real" teleprompter reading Donald Trump is going to have difficulty when it boils down to a one-on-one debate and this magic little device is nowhere in sight.
The "real" Donald Trump rarely speaks in complete sentences, is wedded to superlatives which he repeats while his brain tries to catch up with his mouth, and will probably go ballistic when --and if-- he does actually speak in front of an audience where a white face is the rarity. "There's my Caucasian!" That line, at least, might get a laugh. Stony silence if not outright hostility is what he should be prepared for.
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It is crystal clear that Trump is not making an effort to "reach out to people of color" - rather, he is providing a veneer of "civil cover" for all of those nervous white GOTP'ers who prefer to believe they aren't as overtly racist and bigoted as their POTUS candidate is. Trump hasn't changed anything except his sudden and belated love of teleprompters, after spending months castigating HRC and everyone else who has used them. The GOTP offers nothing whatsoever to minority communities, to those who struggle in poverty (white and of color), to those who can barely get by on Social Security, to those with various disabilities, or anyone lacking large bank accounts. Trump and his father were sued countless times for racial discrimination in their real estate "empire"; he continues to embrace white supremacists who adore him; he stokes ridiculous, xenophobic and bigoted fears at every turn; and he is supported by decidedly reactionary evangelicals, whose incendiary hatred is truly loathsome. La plus ca change, la plus c'est la meme chose with this odious, ignorant man-boy: he has not changed and never will. Caveat emptor, folks.
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“It’s wise before you start going into these places to put things out there for people to cogitate about, and not just walk into an environment where people might be so hostile they won’t listen to you,” Carson said.
It says a lot that a scant ten and a half weeks before the election, Trump is finally"easing into" what is supposed to constitute some sort of message to black voters. The expectation of a poor reception is well-founded -- he earned a shunning-in-perpetuity dating back to his birther venom, but last month still managed to compound the damage by declining an invitation to speak at the NAACP's convention.
It'll be fascinating in the weeks ahead to see if he courts any other parties he previously offended, now that his 14-month alienation campaign has ruled out huge swaths of the population voting for him.
It says a lot that a scant ten and a half weeks before the election, Trump is finally"easing into" what is supposed to constitute some sort of message to black voters. The expectation of a poor reception is well-founded -- he earned a shunning-in-perpetuity dating back to his birther venom, but last month still managed to compound the damage by declining an invitation to speak at the NAACP's convention.
It'll be fascinating in the weeks ahead to see if he courts any other parties he previously offended, now that his 14-month alienation campaign has ruled out huge swaths of the population voting for him.
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So, we are now beginning to see "the real Donald Trump," says his communication director, Jason Miller. It simply doesn't get any richer than that. Such fantasy is an insult to anybody who can see, hear, think and remember.
If Donald Trump failed to grow into human decency at age 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 and 69, there's no hope for a sudden maturity miracle at age 70. Even if he were miraculously to scrub-up real nice on short-order, nothing would change in his compassion-starved core which has been on display for decades.
So there's no hope that Trump will soon understand the consequence of his cruel bigotry. The candidate has no concern for the American social fabric. His campaign is all about him and the sound of his own voice. There's no care for his party, his country, his voting constituents, or the world at-large. There wasn't then and there isn't now.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
If Donald Trump failed to grow into human decency at age 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 and 69, there's no hope for a sudden maturity miracle at age 70. Even if he were miraculously to scrub-up real nice on short-order, nothing would change in his compassion-starved core which has been on display for decades.
So there's no hope that Trump will soon understand the consequence of his cruel bigotry. The candidate has no concern for the American social fabric. His campaign is all about him and the sound of his own voice. There's no care for his party, his country, his voting constituents, or the world at-large. There wasn't then and there isn't now.
www.endthemadnessnow.org
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We've known the real Trump -- a grandiose, conscienceless con man -- for decades.
He is not going to change, or "pivot," because that would require a conscience. A functioning conscience with its empathy, guilt, and humility is what makes it possible for us to notice and admit that we are at fault, want to rectify our mistakes, and change our behavior. No functioning conscience, no change; not even a possibility of acknowledging a wrongdoing.
The impairment of conscience characteristic for narcissism severely limits a person’s cognitive capacities, as it makes him (or her) incapable of, among so many things, understanding points of view other than his own.
This itself makes objective — or at least non-egocentric — reasoning impossible. The result is dangerous solipsism where one’s desires become a substitute for reality, and facts (and people), particularly those that are unpleasant for the narcissist to acknowledge, cease to exist. What he wants, must happen, regardless of consequences for the world — the consequences he is unable to envision in the first place, but even if he did so, he would disregard them.
Unable and unwilling to learn, the best Trump can be expected to do is to stick to a teleprompter and read the polished scripts written for him by his children and handlers. They may fool more people, maybe even enough to have him elected, but they won't help him grow a conscience.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
He is not going to change, or "pivot," because that would require a conscience. A functioning conscience with its empathy, guilt, and humility is what makes it possible for us to notice and admit that we are at fault, want to rectify our mistakes, and change our behavior. No functioning conscience, no change; not even a possibility of acknowledging a wrongdoing.
The impairment of conscience characteristic for narcissism severely limits a person’s cognitive capacities, as it makes him (or her) incapable of, among so many things, understanding points of view other than his own.
This itself makes objective — or at least non-egocentric — reasoning impossible. The result is dangerous solipsism where one’s desires become a substitute for reality, and facts (and people), particularly those that are unpleasant for the narcissist to acknowledge, cease to exist. What he wants, must happen, regardless of consequences for the world — the consequences he is unable to envision in the first place, but even if he did so, he would disregard them.
Unable and unwilling to learn, the best Trump can be expected to do is to stick to a teleprompter and read the polished scripts written for him by his children and handlers. They may fool more people, maybe even enough to have him elected, but they won't help him grow a conscience.
When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.
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"vote for me", words Trump uses to get blacks to support him. Didn't we all see slogans like that in junior high school?
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What do we have to lose?
For the first time since I was a child in school during fallout drills, I'm afraid we have everything to lose. Everything.
For those in government who claim their worst fear is a terrorist handled dirty bomb which would spread radioactivity over a small area, I need them to look me in the eye and say they are not worried about a man with no control, controlling our entire arsenal designed for speed. There's no pivot from that chain of events, no second guess, 'no regrets'.
This the real deal.
For the first time since I was a child in school during fallout drills, I'm afraid we have everything to lose. Everything.
For those in government who claim their worst fear is a terrorist handled dirty bomb which would spread radioactivity over a small area, I need them to look me in the eye and say they are not worried about a man with no control, controlling our entire arsenal designed for speed. There's no pivot from that chain of events, no second guess, 'no regrets'.
This the real deal.
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"The real Donald Trump"? What a pathetic joke this man really is. He's the worst presidential candidate I've ever seen in my 76 years of being a proud American. He is the epitome of exactly what's wrong with our country. He would be both a national and an international disgrace if ever elected to The White House.
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If I were a bear I would hibernate
If I was a fish I would swim
I'm just an old guy living up in the woods
And I'm not with her or with him
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I worry that people may vote for Trump "secretly" eg. they won't admit to voting for such a person on a poll or to their friends but will pull his lever in the voting booth where no one can see. Why? Because they really hate Hillary or they secretly agree with some of his hateful opinions. I don't trust the polls at all in this strange election.
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Trump is only saying words put in his mouth by his pollster. I don't believe a word. He has put his money where his mouth really is: He hired Bannon/Brietbart as his campaign manager and if you want to see how he really feels go on their website. More hate, racism and bigotry. And Republicans can stop their 20+ state disenfranchisement efforts aimed at minorities. Maybe Trump could call for reinstatement of the Voting Rights Act? His wishy washy talk about deportation buses or forces or whatever sends a shiver up my spine. No, Trump is still hateful Trump and still lying.
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Not cynical enough? watch "our brand is crisis".
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I am waiting for Trump to apologize to President Obama about starting the Birther question and then not saying anything about it once President Obama produced his birth certificate. Come on Trump. Man up and apologize to President Obama and the American people.
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Charlie, Hillary started the "birther" movement in 2008.
The "full" birth certificate produced after years of prodding was composed with Adobe Illustrator which didn't exist until 30 years after Obama was born.
Nasty, inconvenient truths, but true nonetheless.
The "full" birth certificate produced after years of prodding was composed with Adobe Illustrator which didn't exist until 30 years after Obama was born.
Nasty, inconvenient truths, but true nonetheless.
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Wow, you are living in fantasy land. President Obama was born in Hawaii to an American. That's a fact. Accept it.
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That is a lie. There is no proof that Mrs. Clinton or anyone in her first campaign ever said President Obama was not born in the United States. As for your birth certificate claim, that is ludicrous.
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The “real” Donald Trump? We've already seen him.
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” –Maya Angelou
“When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” –Maya Angelou
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No such thing as a "real" Trump to me.
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Like everything else in the World according to djt, "real" is relative
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I agree that Trump will never change. With 70 years of grandiosity behind him, his character will not change. One aspect of that character is an intense desire to win.
Assuming Trump intensely desires to win this election -- and assuming he has has the intellectual wherewithal to understand that only the teleprompter can save him -- the question becomes, Does he have the self-discipline to grit his teeth for 76 days and say only what his handlers tell him to say?
I don't know the answer. I hope Trump doesn't have the self-discipline -- I hope that vile bombast will come bubbling out of his mouth -- but really I don't know. It's not impossible to keep one's mouth shut for 10 weeks.
Assuming Trump intensely desires to win this election -- and assuming he has has the intellectual wherewithal to understand that only the teleprompter can save him -- the question becomes, Does he have the self-discipline to grit his teeth for 76 days and say only what his handlers tell him to say?
I don't know the answer. I hope Trump doesn't have the self-discipline -- I hope that vile bombast will come bubbling out of his mouth -- but really I don't know. It's not impossible to keep one's mouth shut for 10 weeks.
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Hopefully a majority of voters have the self-discipline and brains to not be fooled by this pitiful "pivot." If he were to win, then his teleprompter reading would come to an end and the "real" Donald would quickly reappear, including the hate speech, the playground-like darings and the grandiosity. He doesn't know that he doesn't know and that's the real danger.
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@Barbara
You're so right.
You're so right.
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“Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen.”
this sounds exactly like poverty-stricken Upper East Tennessee and West Virginia, where I’m from and where he's polling so well, and there's a 97% Caucasian population in those parts.
this sounds exactly like poverty-stricken Upper East Tennessee and West Virginia, where I’m from and where he's polling so well, and there's a 97% Caucasian population in those parts.
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There is a simple answer to Trump's question: "...What do you have to lose?” Just about everything that has been gained for non-white and non-wealthy Americans.
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And for everyone else, too--by demeaning some of us, Trump demeans all of us.
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What Trump's campaign hired guns and bottom-feeder surrogates should be afraid of is that the "newer, gentler" Donald is just an empty suit with a combover if he can't stir his base up with bigotry and lies.
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Jellyanne (Kellyanne) of Gilligan's Island was hand-picked by Roger Ailes to climb the Trump campaign ladder to the summit. And, by using lesions learned at Fox News she scaled the mountain and now puppy whips Trump daily. She teaches, "Speak, speak to the downtrodden and face the anti-Trump crowd". However, this gambit is temporary, mostly because Trump's insanely jealous wife (currently in the Trump Towers Dog House) sees the writing on the wall and is unnerved by the blond bombshell sporting a lean and underwire package and a Roger Ailes job well-done perspective. Jellyanne can puppy whip the Donald into shaking hands with African-Americans, Muslims, Jews and Mexicans when using her persuasive qualities and Ailes taught personality.
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The problem with the Republican Party is that their leaders work on the assumption that everybody is a stupid sucker, and they could repeatedly con them. Yes, they have gotten away with this ruse for a long time. Trickle down economics and other fairy tales. But Donald Trump is the pinnacle of con artistry. It's laughable, that Trump the imbecile successfully built his campaign on bigotry, misogyny, racism, etc...it got him nominated. Now, Trump finds himself down in the polls, and he's going to pivot and become a new Trump? Seriously, that's insulting.
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It is astonishing that no commentator I have read (looking at you, Charles Blow) has simply listed what the black electorate does have to lose in voting republican. For a start: affirmative action, health care, control of women's reproductive systems, freedom of non-Christian worship, federally mandated hiring fairness, race-blind housing accommodation, the end of for-profit prisons, integrated educational institutions, protected voting rights etc., etc.
Make your own lists and submit them to the Trump campaign... not that they care or understand.
Make your own lists and submit them to the Trump campaign... not that they care or understand.
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No doubt this "real Donald Trump" will be relegated to the ash bin of Very, Very Bad, Very Bad Ideas once he realizes this softer, gentler Trump doesn't get the cheers, the applause and the news coverage of the REAL real Donald Trump.
As much as I'm a Democrat to my very core, I must admit I kinda feel bad for the GOP having to deal with a candidate like Trump.
Kinda.
As much as I'm a Democrat to my very core, I must admit I kinda feel bad for the GOP having to deal with a candidate like Trump.
Kinda.
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When Mr. Trump gave his "I have regrets" speech CNN had on a Trump supporter who spoke of him like a battered woman who got through a night without a beating. She kept coming back to the fact that she felt like she was finally seeing the "real Donald Trump". His supporters are worried that we might be getting the wrong impression of him and, if we could only see what they see, we would feel differently about their candidate. What they don't see is that the "real Donald Trump" has been in evidence all along and that they are the ones who have the wrong impression. They, really, should try to leave their partisan bubbles long enough to see what is clear to everyone else. I mean, what have they got to lose?
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Donald Trump's courting of blacks will have the same result as a man proposing marriage to a woman by telling her: "You are fat, you are ugly, you have a beard, there are pimples all over your face. Nobody wants to marry you. I am your best chance at happiness, so what have you got to lose?"
Good luck with that approach.
Good luck with that approach.
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Sounds like the courting method of an abuser, doesn't it?
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Brilliant analogy!
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Block that analogy, fella! Our problem is Donald Trump and his insane, dangerous candidacy.
He's spent a year and a quarter denouncing and denigrating minorities, women, the disabled, Muslims, Arabs, immigrants, captured soldiers and the parents of a dead, heroic soldier. He is unfamiliar with the Constitution, tramples on the rule of law and has behaved like the proverbial bull in the china shop. His history is littered with the people he's fleeced.
So after all his misbehavior and flaunting of social norms, he now imagines he can change how people view him? I'm laughing!
The guy is either delusional or in extreme denial. Either way he's going to be more of a laughing stock and persona non grata than ever. In fact I wonder if his courting of blacks and minorities won't change the minds of ... his supporters! Gullible as they've been, they may not be willing to walk with him down the road to racial harmony. (Not that I'm expecting any harmony from him, mind you.)
On top of all his other negative traits, he's a now shape-shifter. A flip-flopped. A hypocrite of the first order.
And besides baby-sitting him, his female campaign director is having to clean up after him on a daily basis. Like the baby he is. What a sorry lot they all are!
So after all his misbehavior and flaunting of social norms, he now imagines he can change how people view him? I'm laughing!
The guy is either delusional or in extreme denial. Either way he's going to be more of a laughing stock and persona non grata than ever. In fact I wonder if his courting of blacks and minorities won't change the minds of ... his supporters! Gullible as they've been, they may not be willing to walk with him down the road to racial harmony. (Not that I'm expecting any harmony from him, mind you.)
On top of all his other negative traits, he's a now shape-shifter. A flip-flopped. A hypocrite of the first order.
And besides baby-sitting him, his female campaign director is having to clean up after him on a daily basis. Like the baby he is. What a sorry lot they all are!
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We have seen that movie before. Remember the New Nixon in 1968?
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I wonder, do you think the magnanimous one will be wearing rubber gloves during his "reaching out" foray in case he might accidentally touch one of us uneducated, poverty stricken, criminal losers?
Do they even make rubber gloves that small?
Do they even make rubber gloves that small?
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It will be interesting to see how long Trump continues to visit “churches, charter schools and small businesses in black and Latino communities” after he finds out they are not filled with people cheering his every word.
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Trump, his advisors, and his followers become more loathsome with every passing day. When, oh when will it be over?
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I don't think reading off a teleprompter that African American lives are characterized by “Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen." is an improvement. It shows the depths of his stereotyping and ignorance and his inability to see individuals and not groups. Just as saying (as he said on Sunday) that he could end violent crime in Chicago in "a week" by just letting the police "get a lot tougher" is an improvement reflects a complete lack of understanding of the problem. When SEAN HANNITY is pointing out that you can't pre-emptively arrest folks without cause and that it's illegal to beat them, you know you've got a problem.
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Trump might as well have said, "I've fooled all the poorly educated, reality-tv-loving white folks into voting against their interests. You black folks are way, and I mean waaaay, dumber then them. Vote for me!"
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Get ready for the 'Real' Donald Trump?
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The 'Real' Donald Trump has no qualifications to be president, zero. Mr. Rosenthal, what is it about the number zero (0) that you do not understand? How can anyone, in his right mind take Trump seriously?
How can you take him seriously at the NY Times? Hello? Did you ever take a math course? Did they cover the concept of zero?
Suppose we were considering the appointment of a general, who had never served in the military. Suppose you went to see a doctor who wanted to operate on you, but he had never performed an operation and he never went to med school.
"Trump is a faker" (Judge Ginsburg)
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Taking about the details of Trump's campaign means nothing if Trump is a zero in experience in government. Hello?
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The 'Real' Donald Trump has no qualifications to be president, zero. Mr. Rosenthal, what is it about the number zero (0) that you do not understand? How can anyone, in his right mind take Trump seriously?
How can you take him seriously at the NY Times? Hello? Did you ever take a math course? Did they cover the concept of zero?
Suppose we were considering the appointment of a general, who had never served in the military. Suppose you went to see a doctor who wanted to operate on you, but he had never performed an operation and he never went to med school.
"Trump is a faker" (Judge Ginsburg)
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Taking about the details of Trump's campaign means nothing if Trump is a zero in experience in government. Hello?
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Let me add: Trump is re-phasing Lincoln: Yes, you can fool enough of the people, enough of the time, to get elected president of the United States.
I hope the Clinton people will begin attacking Trump as a zero, while there is still time...Long winded attacks, blah, blah, blah, are not working for Clinton...
I hope the Clinton people will begin attacking Trump as a zero, while there is still time...Long winded attacks, blah, blah, blah, are not working for Clinton...
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And, ex parts comments by a Supreme Court justice giving a personal opinion are not proof of anything whether you agree with them or not.
Also rapidly climbing the charts of jerkdom is the former Mayor Rudy Giuliani - from someone who offered hope and comfort after 9/11 he now utters cruel remarks in an atmosphere of total gloom.
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You're obviously not from New York. Rudy (noun,verb,9/11) never offered anybody hope or comfort before or after 9/11. His administration paid out millions of dollars to settle civil suits based upon actions the police took in his name. The case of Abner Louima comes to mind immediately.
This is the guy who put NYC's Emergency Operations Center in the WTC after it had already been attacked once. The guy many believe is responsible for the purchase of the malfunctioning radio equipment that cost the lives of firefighters in the Towers. The guy who selected his buddy Bernie Kerik to two Commishionerships before he went to jail.
I will agree, however, that Rudy is skyrocketing to jerkdom, as he tells one and all his medical diagnosis of Hillary and why the Apocalypse is coming.
This is the guy who put NYC's Emergency Operations Center in the WTC after it had already been attacked once. The guy many believe is responsible for the purchase of the malfunctioning radio equipment that cost the lives of firefighters in the Towers. The guy who selected his buddy Bernie Kerik to two Commishionerships before he went to jail.
I will agree, however, that Rudy is skyrocketing to jerkdom, as he tells one and all his medical diagnosis of Hillary and why the Apocalypse is coming.
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peterhenry:
Not sure what your beef is with Giuliani, but he did a great job in NYC. He most certainly did offer certainty and security to New Yorkers after 9/11. He also made New Yorkers feel safer by reducing the harassment they experienced on a day-to-day basis in the streets. The ComStat system was implemented under him.
Not sure what your beef is with Giuliani, but he did a great job in NYC. He most certainly did offer certainty and security to New Yorkers after 9/11. He also made New Yorkers feel safer by reducing the harassment they experienced on a day-to-day basis in the streets. The ComStat system was implemented under him.
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“At a rally in Akron, Ohio, this week, Trump described the lives of American minorities this way: “Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen.”
After thus insulting the African-American community en masse, Trump went on to demand, instead of ask for, their support with this rhetorical question, “what do you have to lose?” And, to make matters worse, Kellyanne Conway, his new campaign manager deemed his bigoted rant as “heartfelt?” Hey, if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Trump’s presidential run, the antithesis of what President Kennedy inspired in a generation over half-century ago, can be encapsulated as:
Ask not what Trump can do for the country; ask what the country can do for Trump?
Even if he loses the presidential race, Trump will have succeeded in boosting the Trump brand to even greater worldwide recognition. Trump the man will have lost but, from a business standpoint, Trump the brand will have gained. Trump University might not be resuscitated, but a new Trump Ailes Network (TAN) could arise to provide white nationalists hope for sunburn, yet? We could even joke, “TAN is the new white,” especially if its tagline were to read, “We report, you agree.”
If some of this sounds facetious, it is not meant to, as much as it is to awaken all Americans to the possibility of a Trump presidency and what it would mean for our nation?
After thus insulting the African-American community en masse, Trump went on to demand, instead of ask for, their support with this rhetorical question, “what do you have to lose?” And, to make matters worse, Kellyanne Conway, his new campaign manager deemed his bigoted rant as “heartfelt?” Hey, if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Trump’s presidential run, the antithesis of what President Kennedy inspired in a generation over half-century ago, can be encapsulated as:
Ask not what Trump can do for the country; ask what the country can do for Trump?
Even if he loses the presidential race, Trump will have succeeded in boosting the Trump brand to even greater worldwide recognition. Trump the man will have lost but, from a business standpoint, Trump the brand will have gained. Trump University might not be resuscitated, but a new Trump Ailes Network (TAN) could arise to provide white nationalists hope for sunburn, yet? We could even joke, “TAN is the new white,” especially if its tagline were to read, “We report, you agree.”
If some of this sounds facetious, it is not meant to, as much as it is to awaken all Americans to the possibility of a Trump presidency and what it would mean for our nation?
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I have tried to avoid labeling Trump a racist. I really have. I tried to look at the positives. He has worked with African Americans over the years, some have good things to say about him. Early in the primaries he met with African American religious leaders, and some came away impressed. Some of his economic messages resonates with African Americans who have often born the economic brunt of the downside of illegal immigration and foreign entanglements. But then there is the birther thing, his effort to delegitimize Obama. There is also the documented history of companies he controls engaging in discrimination against African American renters, as company policy. And finally, there is his foot dragging on denouncing his racists supporters. I cannot escape the fact that the man is a racist.
But just as troubling, when the crowds were yelling for Hillary Clinton's imprisonment and worse during his convention. He was silent. In New York he incited lynch mob mentality in the Central Park 5 incident in which poor black and Hispanic kids were railroaded for a brutal rape they did not commit. He stokes hatred in his supporters. He treats political opponents as enemies to be destroyed and humiliated. He tells more lies than truths. If we thought Nixon was bad with his enemies lists, the use of the IRS, FBI, and other arms of the US government to subvert legitimate political opposition, how much worse will a man with Trumps tendencies be? He will be a dangerous president.
But just as troubling, when the crowds were yelling for Hillary Clinton's imprisonment and worse during his convention. He was silent. In New York he incited lynch mob mentality in the Central Park 5 incident in which poor black and Hispanic kids were railroaded for a brutal rape they did not commit. He stokes hatred in his supporters. He treats political opponents as enemies to be destroyed and humiliated. He tells more lies than truths. If we thought Nixon was bad with his enemies lists, the use of the IRS, FBI, and other arms of the US government to subvert legitimate political opposition, how much worse will a man with Trumps tendencies be? He will be a dangerous president.
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When do we get the real HRC?
.. Oh .. that's right we have wait until after she's elected -- you know ...trust
.. Oh .. that's right we have wait until after she's elected -- you know ...trust
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She has consistently proposed well- thought out policies to address our challenges. If you want to see the "real" Clinton, stare by looking here:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/
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Maybe do a little homework and check out what she's been doing the last 3 decades. It's public record.
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No lie is too outrageous for the Donald.
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Why -- in so much of the analysis and coverage of Donald Trump -- do we not bring in boldface the essence of who and what his candidacy is about -- a cult of personality. Why are we evaluating this fortunate son, son of Fred Trump - notorious millionaire developer and later immortalized in a Woody Guthrie song - as the dreaded and much feared overlord - landlord -- why are we evaluating Donald Trump in political terms? He is a celebrity and this is his great race. This is the Truman Show. This is a grandiose narcissistic under developed mind forcing himself on anyone who can't stop him. The Apprentice ran for more than 10 years with 20.7 million viewers - average - per show. These are the fans and fanatics who are Trump-ites. They are seeking fame by association -- they are lovers of the great and near great. Donald Trump is a celebrity in an age where popular travesties like ultimate fighting and the WWE are peaking in popularity. Would we wonder what Hulk Hogan thinks of the social and economic disadvantages in the middle east which have brought about a desperate and irrational blowback?? Would Hulk Hogan really wrap his head around the concept of western imperialism and the establishment of these United States on the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Native Americans [read: Trump's "Pocahantas"] - Trump is a cult of the worst, least educated, most myopic and narcissistic of personalities. He is not a political actor. @johannaclear
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At least Trump has brought to the fore what is readily known to anyone who has an interest in history and current events. That racism, anti-semitism, xenophobia, anti Gay phobia, etc. remain as staples of a very large segment of our post WWII country. Yet, despite it all, and despite Republican administrations and its recent control of Congress, progress has been made. All that we can do as Democrats is to wait for election day to find out the extent of the strength of the ugly underbelly of prejudice in our country.
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••The problem, of course, is not that minorities won’t listen to Trump. They have been listening, and they are appalled.••
Hey, white folks. All of you (us, me too). Have any of us actually clocked in on black reaction to the ways WE all talk about black people? Whether empathetically or not. Watch Steven Colbert's episode talking about Trump's speech in which he, DJT, says to black people, "What. have. you. got. to. lose?" And then look at John Batiste's face. That says just about everything about what's wrong with white people in this debate. It's time we all thought hard and long about fairness, justice, and just plain egalitarian kindness. We are so off base regarding race in our country. Long past time we got past our ourselves.
We ARE in this all together. And altogether.
Hey, white folks. All of you (us, me too). Have any of us actually clocked in on black reaction to the ways WE all talk about black people? Whether empathetically or not. Watch Steven Colbert's episode talking about Trump's speech in which he, DJT, says to black people, "What. have. you. got. to. lose?" And then look at John Batiste's face. That says just about everything about what's wrong with white people in this debate. It's time we all thought hard and long about fairness, justice, and just plain egalitarian kindness. We are so off base regarding race in our country. Long past time we got past our ourselves.
We ARE in this all together. And altogether.
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Please, speak for yourself, A.Conley. By lumping all white people together you are also being racist.
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So now we have Kellyanne Conway trying to give us a softer, gentler, less threatening version of the Donald. uh oh...
"There are few things more chilling than the sound of a nearby rattlesnake. That distinctive sound serves as a warning that trouble could be on the way. The only thing worse than hearing a rattlesnake within striking distance — is not hearing it at all."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=216924322&ft=1&...
"There are few things more chilling than the sound of a nearby rattlesnake. That distinctive sound serves as a warning that trouble could be on the way. The only thing worse than hearing a rattlesnake within striking distance — is not hearing it at all."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=216924322&ft=1&...
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Butterfield said that Trump wasn't talking "to" Blacks, he was talking "at" them. I'd say it's even worse than that he's talking "about" Blacks. The man is as clueless now as he's ever been. The only difference is that he groveling, ineptly, for votes.
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I don't worry about the "real" Donald Trump. He is transparent, and you can agree with his policies or disagree with them.
I wonder how people will feel about the "real" HRC in 2018 or 2019 should she be president. More unfair trade wiping out manufacturing jobs. More unemployment and wage suppression by massive immigration as millions poor into the US after her amnesty program. More guestworker programs to take the jobs of engineers and programmers. An unfettered financial industry that gets whatever it wants, even if it crashes the economy again (Wall Street didn't pay her all that money for nothing). And who knows, maybe more wars started by her hubris which is every bit as strong as Bush's was (actually, on foreign policy Clinton most reminds me of Cheney).
And the one thing she stands for that I agree with - more progressive taxation and the Buffet rule - will almost certainly be a long forgotten promise. Clinton will fight a lot harder for the TPP than she will for the Buffet rule.
I get the feeling a lot of well off liberals prefer to console themselves with the nonsense of Trump being a racist than actually looking at the policies being advocated and how they will work for this country. Very sad because given the direction we are going in we need to focus on actual policies and what works, not identity politics that distract us while a tiny elite gets richer.
I wonder how people will feel about the "real" HRC in 2018 or 2019 should she be president. More unfair trade wiping out manufacturing jobs. More unemployment and wage suppression by massive immigration as millions poor into the US after her amnesty program. More guestworker programs to take the jobs of engineers and programmers. An unfettered financial industry that gets whatever it wants, even if it crashes the economy again (Wall Street didn't pay her all that money for nothing). And who knows, maybe more wars started by her hubris which is every bit as strong as Bush's was (actually, on foreign policy Clinton most reminds me of Cheney).
And the one thing she stands for that I agree with - more progressive taxation and the Buffet rule - will almost certainly be a long forgotten promise. Clinton will fight a lot harder for the TPP than she will for the Buffet rule.
I get the feeling a lot of well off liberals prefer to console themselves with the nonsense of Trump being a racist than actually looking at the policies being advocated and how they will work for this country. Very sad because given the direction we are going in we need to focus on actual policies and what works, not identity politics that distract us while a tiny elite gets richer.
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You are making this up.
Here is what she has consistently proposed to do, assuming voters elect a Democratic Senate and House
Here is what she has consistently proposed to do, assuming voters elect a Democratic Senate and House
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clinton's ideas, about child care, student debt, infrastructure, all make sense. she shows how she would pay for everything. why not give her a chance, instead of assuming she has motives which, in the last 40 years, she really hasn't demonstrated having.
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"we need to focus on actual policies and what works"
That is exactly why so many people like myself cannot contemplate how anyone could vote for Trump.
That is exactly why so many people like myself cannot contemplate how anyone could vote for Trump.
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All the problems and misery, for which Donald the Presidential Candidate proclaims to have solutions to offer, will get worse under a Trump Presidency: His cohorts, tax evaders, tax cheaters, and his co-racists on the top echelons of the Republican Party decided to set the system in a way a great majority will always stays poor and a small minority feeds its pooch with prime-cut file mignon.
If a political party declares an economic warfare on its minority citizens and supports a racist, bigoted, white men who started life with a 200 million dollars seed money from his father, and thinks he made as great of a sacrifice as losing a family member at the prime of his life and his accomplishment, by adding more millions on his wealth, and now he is trying to pander them is akin to trying to deceive a three year old with a fake lollipop.
This last episode makes it so clear who Donald Trump is. I hope astute minority citizens of this country see through this: it is not missable.
If a political party declares an economic warfare on its minority citizens and supports a racist, bigoted, white men who started life with a 200 million dollars seed money from his father, and thinks he made as great of a sacrifice as losing a family member at the prime of his life and his accomplishment, by adding more millions on his wealth, and now he is trying to pander them is akin to trying to deceive a three year old with a fake lollipop.
This last episode makes it so clear who Donald Trump is. I hope astute minority citizens of this country see through this: it is not missable.
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Donald Trump has richly earned the contempt of the NYT and most of its readership. The GOP, for its part, cannot effectively reach out to minority groups unless it jettisons the anti-tax, anti-government ideology handed down from on high by Ronald Reagan. Since the congressional leadership betrays no signs of a willingness to risk charges of heresy, Ryan and company will certainly discourage Trump from making any promises they will refuse to honor.
But, of course, no one expects the Republicans to change their policies. The Democrats, on the other hand, have been distributing political IOUs to blacks and other minorities for decades, in the smug expectation that the Republican menace would protect them from the necessity of repaying those debts. In fact, the Dems have conspired with the GOP, wittingly or not, over a thirty year period to construct a system of criminal justice that has incarcerated massive numbers of young black men in state and federal prisons, largely on the charge of possessing and selling small amounts of drugs. (See Michelle Alexander, "The New Jim Crow")
Trump lacks any credibility, but his charge that the Democrats have not served the interests of one of their core constituencies contains more truth than he could imagine. Time for this party to convert its support of the African American community from rhetoric into actions.
But, of course, no one expects the Republicans to change their policies. The Democrats, on the other hand, have been distributing political IOUs to blacks and other minorities for decades, in the smug expectation that the Republican menace would protect them from the necessity of repaying those debts. In fact, the Dems have conspired with the GOP, wittingly or not, over a thirty year period to construct a system of criminal justice that has incarcerated massive numbers of young black men in state and federal prisons, largely on the charge of possessing and selling small amounts of drugs. (See Michelle Alexander, "The New Jim Crow")
Trump lacks any credibility, but his charge that the Democrats have not served the interests of one of their core constituencies contains more truth than he could imagine. Time for this party to convert its support of the African American community from rhetoric into actions.
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Is that why the NYT has not given Hillary Clinton anywhere near the same column space as they have Donald Trump? I counted on several days 7 or 8 articles one right after another on The Rump (my favorite nickname, not for unobvious reasons) with one or even none on Hillary. They never write about all the issues that are the content of her campaign! They never give her any credit but love to intensify any negative accusations (even though there is absolutely no proof to substantiate them) that is made against her. It is unconscionable how much free press has been given to Donald Trump by the printed medium and television. Sure Hillary doesn't give many press conferences, but the only questions she gets are about the dastardly stuff that have no facts to back them up. Nothing! No charges have ever been filed against her! Why? Because there is nothing untoward in her actions! Only allegations and opinionated implications. She has had to defend herself for thirty years! Why doesn't the press go after Trump so heatedly? His questionable business dealings ought to at least raise news journalists' eyebrows! Maybe even write a criticism or two about them! I am really tired of all this one-sidedness, so much that I am now looking elsewhere for more objective news than NYT. One tricky thing the NYT is now doing is not having a comments feature for many many many articles about which the people have much to say.
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Good post but they won't try to stop him from making promises they won't keep. It's what they alway do.
Voting out the GOP congress and senate, plus locally elected officials wouldn't hurt either, right?
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The best thing about Donald Trump is that he has unveiled the racism, sexism, and intolerance that is systemic in and supported by many Republicans and their institutions.
What is unfortunate about Trump is that when this is all over, the Republicans will blame the mess with voters on him, despite that his rhetoric and "policies" are of the Republican Party. As there is public denouncement of his racist comments, many Republicans across the country attempt to restrict African American voters. This is not the behavior of non-racists, and is deeply unpatriotic and un-American; and it is only one small measure of action taken to "hurt" minorities and underprivileged in the United States--measures taken and supported by most Republicans year-in and year-out in financial, environmental, educational, and housing policies. The entire Party should be ripped apart for not just tolerating, but for supporting a candidate who has fostered violence and is a know-nothing incompetent. They risk the nation's security and peace for the chance that this self-aggrandizing media seeking missile of destruction might let them into the oval office.
I've been a lifelong Democrat, and I have felt respect for Republicans, but even I am deeply discouraged by all that Republicans have offered up. Our government and our lives are not a video-game, not a reality show. A Trump Presidency, (so much moreso than the Bush Presidency,) will be one we and our children will have to pay for for decades.
What is unfortunate about Trump is that when this is all over, the Republicans will blame the mess with voters on him, despite that his rhetoric and "policies" are of the Republican Party. As there is public denouncement of his racist comments, many Republicans across the country attempt to restrict African American voters. This is not the behavior of non-racists, and is deeply unpatriotic and un-American; and it is only one small measure of action taken to "hurt" minorities and underprivileged in the United States--measures taken and supported by most Republicans year-in and year-out in financial, environmental, educational, and housing policies. The entire Party should be ripped apart for not just tolerating, but for supporting a candidate who has fostered violence and is a know-nothing incompetent. They risk the nation's security and peace for the chance that this self-aggrandizing media seeking missile of destruction might let them into the oval office.
I've been a lifelong Democrat, and I have felt respect for Republicans, but even I am deeply discouraged by all that Republicans have offered up. Our government and our lives are not a video-game, not a reality show. A Trump Presidency, (so much moreso than the Bush Presidency,) will be one we and our children will have to pay for for decades.
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the Republicans deserve no respect
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Trump has gathered what support he has based on appeals to anger, hate and bitterness. His business practices make him less qualified not more. He is a misanthrope. How can we have a president who is angry all the time and looks under every rock for someone to blame for the problems of the country? The job is to solve problems not place blame. Clinton's message is based entirely upon a positive attitude and an appeal to the better nature of people. I had reservations about Clinton. I find the actions of Bill Clinton with women while in office disgusting, but he is just the first one we knew about. He did it, not her. So I accept it. The only other criticisms of Clinton arise from her use of a private email server and the appearance of impropriety from the Clinton Foundation. The email situation was a mistake but not intended to harm anyone, and no one was harmed. I have taken the trouble to educate myself about the Foundation and have not been able to find any benefit to any member of the Clinton family from it. If there is, please let me know. Nor is there any evidence that anyone received any improper benefit from the US government as a result of any contribution to the Foundation. The Foundation has done great good and no harm. My political reservations about Clinton were not well placed. On the other hand, Trump can soften his message, but he will always be an angry, self-serving, bigoted misanthrope. I think Trump's supporters should look past their own hatred, too.
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The whole "outreach" is a shining example of racism. Trump's language makes the assumption that blacks are all the same. He seems blissfully unaware that many of them are blue collar, middle class, and professionals and don't in fact live in the inner city.
The approach also assumes 1) that blacks can be swayed simply by some sweet-talking, even if it comes out of the mouth of one who has waffled between racist comments and being (only) tone deaf; 2) that "blacks" (as a group) are oppressed by terrible liberals and not smart or savvy enough to know it; 3) that they all vote Democratic because they want government handouts (not mentioned this week, but that it the underlying assumption when the GOP talks about 'keeping them dependent') again suggesting that the whole African American community is at the economic bottom and naive at best and/or lazy.
The approach also assumes 1) that blacks can be swayed simply by some sweet-talking, even if it comes out of the mouth of one who has waffled between racist comments and being (only) tone deaf; 2) that "blacks" (as a group) are oppressed by terrible liberals and not smart or savvy enough to know it; 3) that they all vote Democratic because they want government handouts (not mentioned this week, but that it the underlying assumption when the GOP talks about 'keeping them dependent') again suggesting that the whole African American community is at the economic bottom and naive at best and/or lazy.
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He sounds like a 50s Jim Crow candidate.
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Excellent points but the real reason Trump is taking this tack has nothing at all to do with trying to sway voters of color and everything to do with trying to appeal to squeamish white suburban voters who don't like the openly racist rants of Thrump.
Hopefully they, just like us, will see him for what he truly is.
Hopefully they, just like us, will see him for what he truly is.
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"What do you have to lose?", he says. So vote for the guy that the KKK and White Supremacist organizations think is wonderful. His reaching out to people of color is, at best, just another insult to them. If you are a minority (or a woman) and you vote for Trump, just imagine what David Duke (or Pence) are thinking of you.
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Suppose I opt out?
Suppose I tell you to take your so-called election and put it somewhere?
Of course, the propaganda parrots will tell me that not voting means I am somehow responsible for the outcome of the vote. That right there tells you logic is playing no role, whatsoever.
America is dead...
Suppose I tell you to take your so-called election and put it somewhere?
Of course, the propaganda parrots will tell me that not voting means I am somehow responsible for the outcome of the vote. That right there tells you logic is playing no role, whatsoever.
America is dead...
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tao,
I agree with the sentiment of 'abstain'. I think 'none of the above' s/b a valid choice on any ballot.
But!, accompanying that option we need a completely reformed and modernized format; Proportional voting, instant runoff with clear requirements, etc.
For example, if abstain achieves 30% there should be required a new election. If no candidate acquires a majority the instant runoff requirements kick in.
I can't enumerate all the technicalities here, but for the sake of our republic and America at large we need to make drastic changes to our electoral process. This is just one small area that needs fixed. Primaries, financing, and the length of the campaign all need fixed. We are witnessing political insanity writ large.
I agree with the sentiment of 'abstain'. I think 'none of the above' s/b a valid choice on any ballot.
But!, accompanying that option we need a completely reformed and modernized format; Proportional voting, instant runoff with clear requirements, etc.
For example, if abstain achieves 30% there should be required a new election. If no candidate acquires a majority the instant runoff requirements kick in.
I can't enumerate all the technicalities here, but for the sake of our republic and America at large we need to make drastic changes to our electoral process. This is just one small area that needs fixed. Primaries, financing, and the length of the campaign all need fixed. We are witnessing political insanity writ large.
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Dag,
Once Trump loses by historic margins it will be interesting to watch what he does; Just what measures will he call out from his base?
Just a sound defeat of this cretinous, malevolent mime will not bring an end to Tumpism/TeaPartyism/GOP malevolence. The GOP bacillus will be in our body politic for a decade or more.
I wonder what they will name their new (old) party?
Once Trump loses by historic margins it will be interesting to watch what he does; Just what measures will he call out from his base?
Just a sound defeat of this cretinous, malevolent mime will not bring an end to Tumpism/TeaPartyism/GOP malevolence. The GOP bacillus will be in our body politic for a decade or more.
I wonder what they will name their new (old) party?
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Trump does not want to win. Moreover, why would he? Stupid, thankless job...
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Good reason not to vote for him; Insincere, pretty stupid, not as rich as he says, maybe broke, aligning with Russia, wants confrontation with China, handing over the Baltics and perhaps Poland, no economic plan whatsoever, cheated on all his wives with his successive wives, hot for his daughter.
Trump; A travesty of a man, not worthy of serious consideration in any case.
Hillary, on the other hand, has served her nation, helped run a charity that has aided millions of people worldwide, would keep the nation between the yellow lines of the highway into the future.
Hillary = Imperfect Future
Trump = Perfect disaster
Trump; A travesty of a man, not worthy of serious consideration in any case.
Hillary, on the other hand, has served her nation, helped run a charity that has aided millions of people worldwide, would keep the nation between the yellow lines of the highway into the future.
Hillary = Imperfect Future
Trump = Perfect disaster
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Yeah.
And just who would draw the short straw every day to hose that fake looking spray-on tan onto his bloated body? Seriously, he's not fooling anyone.
And I'd rather be totally bald than walking around with that MOP on my head all day long.
And just who would draw the short straw every day to hose that fake looking spray-on tan onto his bloated body? Seriously, he's not fooling anyone.
And I'd rather be totally bald than walking around with that MOP on my head all day long.
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your fourth comment will finally show how you are a deep thinker!
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Isn't his campaign slogan, "Make America Great Again" basically telling everyone not in his elite circle of billionaires that they are all losers. Maybe he's just an equal opportunity elitist, with a racist undertone.
And it's perfectly sane for a casino owner to tell people, when they are losing (at least in his eyes) to double down by voting for someone who has no understanding of what they need and no plan for helping them.
His attempt to pivot won't fool his white supremacist supporters or the minorities against whom he has stoking the rancor of his crowds.
And it's perfectly sane for a casino owner to tell people, when they are losing (at least in his eyes) to double down by voting for someone who has no understanding of what they need and no plan for helping them.
His attempt to pivot won't fool his white supremacist supporters or the minorities against whom he has stoking the rancor of his crowds.
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It is simpler than that. He'll say whatever he thinks people want to hear at any given moment. No principles of any kind except self-aggrandizement.
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And it's perfectly sane for a casino owner to tell people, when they are losing (at least in his eyes) to double down by voting for someone who has no understanding of what they need and no plan for helping them.
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They need jobs.
Trump has plans.
How is Rahm Emmanuel delivering for the blacks in Chicago? What did they ever do with the cop, on video, unloading his gun into the black man's back?
How are black men faring under Obama? Will they do as well under Clinton?
Trump will make change, not collect rich people's money to meet with him, like the Clinton Foundation does...
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They need jobs.
Trump has plans.
How is Rahm Emmanuel delivering for the blacks in Chicago? What did they ever do with the cop, on video, unloading his gun into the black man's back?
How are black men faring under Obama? Will they do as well under Clinton?
Trump will make change, not collect rich people's money to meet with him, like the Clinton Foundation does...
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Good point about doubling down on losses.
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The Real Donald Trump is the man who pursued President Obama with a vengeance, lying to his teeth about his 'investigators" and otherwise, running a humiliation campaign.
And now he expects African Americans to embrace him, just because he says he can make their lives better? How? That pitch based on saying how awful their lives are, smacks of plantation politics: vote for me as your new "master" and I'll improve your lot.
It's more than insulting, it's another racial insult! And the fact he has no interest in hearing their real concerns other than the ones he "thinks" they have, is so self-evident as to be laughable.
This is not, I repeat, this is not a nice man. Nor a truthful one. Because he himself operates out of supreme selfishness, he naturally assumes that everybody else does too.
I can't imagine very many people of color, or Hispanics, voting him. His new-found zeal for their cause is nothing more than manipulative promotion to white suburban housewives.
Racist is as racist does, as Gump would say. He got his start discriminating against black renters in his Queens apartments, forced to pay big fines, but continuing the practice.
That is the REAL Donald Trump.
And now he expects African Americans to embrace him, just because he says he can make their lives better? How? That pitch based on saying how awful their lives are, smacks of plantation politics: vote for me as your new "master" and I'll improve your lot.
It's more than insulting, it's another racial insult! And the fact he has no interest in hearing their real concerns other than the ones he "thinks" they have, is so self-evident as to be laughable.
This is not, I repeat, this is not a nice man. Nor a truthful one. Because he himself operates out of supreme selfishness, he naturally assumes that everybody else does too.
I can't imagine very many people of color, or Hispanics, voting him. His new-found zeal for their cause is nothing more than manipulative promotion to white suburban housewives.
Racist is as racist does, as Gump would say. He got his start discriminating against black renters in his Queens apartments, forced to pay big fines, but continuing the practice.
That is the REAL Donald Trump.
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Watching this guy "lecture" gives me the willies; he is actually not talking to us, and he's also not lecturing, but hectoring, giving talking-point (PowerPoint) lectures, moving his right hand as if he had just had his first lesson in public speaking, and he's too loud! TOO LOUD! MUCH TOO LOUD! Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much!
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I have found over several decades that in general, people expect from others the behavior they themselves exhibit. An honest person expects honesty. A thief is wary of others stealing from him/her.
Trump's behavior and history seems to lend credibility to this philosophy.
Trump's behavior and history seems to lend credibility to this philosophy.
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So well said!!! However, I'd add that he is positively horrifyingly dangerous and despicable. Not to mention disgustingly manipulative. I could go on...
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Aside from the recent theatrics, let's go back to the beginning when the Trumps were forced to settle claims of housing discrimination against African American families. Agents were labeling black applicants' forms indicating their race.
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That along with a few other things from his history tells me everything I want (or don't want) to know about the man. I thought we'd reach the bottom of the barrel with the clown car from the 2012 Republican primary. Not.
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Mr. Trump is "beyond the pale." His mostly white base does not in any way wish to be associated with or vote for a party associated with "others." He has to "make nice" with a wink, wink. They really do not care if he is a racist. Their hatred of the President - and his wife - carries over to HRC. The Breitbart alt-right support is music to their ears. They know what the "real" DT is and that's just the way they love him!!! They know what he now has to say but they do not believe any of it. Set-in-stone support.
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I gotta disagree with you a bit -- the mouth-breathers hated HRC long before 2008. They didn't care for the uppity woman trying to actually DO SOMETHING with her education and skills while filling the First Lady seat. Let us not forget the chocolate chip cookie wars.
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Reply to Emily....I agree that they have hated HRC for decades. In addition, their hatred of the President - who is the "other" and who represents all that they loathe about the Democrats - has raised their intensity. I have had two people tell me to my face -in front of others- that they wished someone would just shoot the President. The first, a woman in her 70s, who tells you what a selfless Christian she is and the second, a man in his mid 40's who actually shouted that statement across a table full of birthday celebrants. I cannot tell you how shaken I was each time. They are the base of the party and faithful watchers of one cable channel. There is no real or unreal DT....he is their man and they love his bullying, his smacking down, his birther statements, his insulting the President, etc.,etc.
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I would have picked up the phone and reported them both to the Secret Service.
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The real Donald Trump? As a mental health professional, my educated guess is that the one currently on display is courtesy of psychotropic medication. While Narcissistic Personality Disorder does not respond to meds, mania, ADD, and delusional thinking do. Clearly, the demagogue has not had a personality transplant, but for a time modern medicine can mask the symptoms of his mental illnesses.
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The DT "currently on display" - do you mean the one reading from a teleprompter? I don't think he's on any meds at all as I don't think he would take them - unless someone slips them into his Burger King burger or spikes his Coke or whatever he drinks.
Of course, the reason so many blacks and Latinos think Trump may be a racist is because you guys in the media have been telling them that Trump is a racist, but what has he said that proves he is a racist. He is definitely against illegal immigration and promises to deport most if not all of them, but how does that make him a racist. He isn't proposing to deport all Hispanics, just the ones that are here illegally. And what has he proposed that would harm blacks. Other than promising to enforce the criminal law against all law breakers, black, white or Hispanics, he hasn't proposed anything that would do any of them any harm. And some might well argue that enforcing the criminal law against black law breakers is actually beneficial for law abiding blacks. And he has proposed to keep Muslims out of the country until we know what the hell is going on, not because Muslims are all dangerous but because some of them are and it is simply impossible to tell the peaceful from the violent without extreme vetting. And I would bet the ranch that Trump doesn't give a damn whether a person is black, white or something else or whether he or she is Christian, Jew or Muslim or something else. All he is promising to do is enforce the law that is now on the books in a non discriminatory manner. That is not racist, or xenophobic, or paranoiac. It is what in fact the President of the United States is obliged by the Constitution to do and is all that his supporters want.
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I'd start with the birther libel, which Trump used to test market himself with delusionals in the GOP. When you get down to the birther drivel, you compelling part of the case is that its believers couldn't accept that a black man was constitutionally capable of being president. You might also consider his full page ad calling for a 20th century lynching of the Central Park Five (who were later exonerated). Trump's injudicious barbs against Judge Curiel are case-book racism. I could go on. I guess the best we can say about Trump and racism would be the question: is Trump a racist, or is he just playing one to gather supporters who are racists. Neither reflects well on the man.
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And yet when a Judge from Indiana is presiding over a case, Trump whines that he can't get a fair hearing because the guy is of Mexican decent.
Guess what, Bub? That's, as Speaker Ryan said, "pretty much the textbook definition of racism."
Guess what, Bub? That's, as Speaker Ryan said, "pretty much the textbook definition of racism."
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Bob - Mr. Trump and his father were investigated and found guilty of discriminating against African-Americans who were trying to rent apartments in their buildings in the 70's (they had applications by African-Amercans screened out). Mr. Trump is quoted as saying that blacks are "lazy" and that he wouldn't want any of them counting his money (preferring those that wear yarmulkes to do the counting). These are not opinions, they are facts, and if you choose to you can look it up. I could go on here but I fear it wouldn't make much of a difference. If you can't see the racism at this point it's hard to imagine you ever will.
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Harold from Ohio. Are you an African American? What about Trump's bias toward Women & Hispanics? Oh that's right he wants to make "America Great Again" just like Bush did during his presidency.
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I believe we, that is Americans, will be surprised on the day following the election to discover just how many minorities voted for him. There will be so many that it will make your head spin.
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yes, we will see only 2%will vote for him.
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My head does not spin when talking about a single digit number, absolute, not even percentage.
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Too much moonshine Southern Boy, time to give it a rest.
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THAT Is Most Amusing....
AS he recently asked the African Americans: "Vote For Me, What Do You Have To Lose"!???
AND the short answer is: "Their Dignity".
MEET The "New & Improved Donald Trump", The Same As The "Old Morally Challenged Donald Trump".
AND Hiring Kellyanne Conway As "His New Nanny & Apologist" Is NOT Going To Make ANY Difference.
AS You Can NOT Teach An Old Dog New Tricks!
TOO MUCH TOO LATE!
AS he recently asked the African Americans: "Vote For Me, What Do You Have To Lose"!???
AND the short answer is: "Their Dignity".
MEET The "New & Improved Donald Trump", The Same As The "Old Morally Challenged Donald Trump".
AND Hiring Kellyanne Conway As "His New Nanny & Apologist" Is NOT Going To Make ANY Difference.
AS You Can NOT Teach An Old Dog New Tricks!
TOO MUCH TOO LATE!
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According to Tony Schwartz, Donald Trump's official biographer, in an extensive recent interview in the New Yorker magazine July 25, 2016, there is no real Trump. None whatsoever. Schwartz explains in great detail that Trump is, as he precisely describes it, just a hollow facade, with no personality, no honestly, no substance, no friends, all hot air. Pure flatulence. Nothing but a mirror, bent and twisted to reflect whatever he thinks people want to see.
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Oh, you mean another Reagan!
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Perfect! I couldn't have said it better, so I won't
And Schwartz was not just his "biographer" but the ghost writer of Trump's self proclaimed book, "The Art of the Deal". Even Trumps self proclaimed "manifesto" was written by another person and that person says the real Trump was/is an empty suit. What more do the rest of us need to know about the "real" Donald.
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The problem with the "Real" Donald Trump is that he is a REAL jack wagon that shouldn't be running for the president of the PTA let alone the highest office in the land. As a black voter I've payed attention to everything he's said and done this last year and a half. The hate speech, the requests for our enemies to harm our national security, attacks on a Gold Star family, a disabled journalist, calling for gun owners to "do something" about Sec Clinton and her potential judges, the list goes on as we all know. Trying to pander to the black voters basically saying "your life sucks to you might as well vote for me" is not a smart choice to try and sway us Trump. How about talking to black people outside of your payroll to see what we need to help rebuild and improve our community's. How about talking to our leaders? My sound advice for Trump on ways to gain the black vote: Don't. You can 't piss on our heads and tell us its rain. All of America see's you for what you really are: A Con Man. The jig is up Trump.
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After years of criticizing Obama (and now Hillary) for "reading teleprompters", Trump starts doing it and presents this as the real Trump. Without an electorate of folks without memory or logic, we'd be looking at actual Presidential candidates.
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It appears that Trump believes black people are ignorant, don't bother to follow the political process, have no access to media outlets & are just a monolithic group that will shuffle along to the polling places on election day in lock step & vote for democratic candidates...
He give no credence to the truth that he should be able to stare into the world outside of Trump Tower & the universe of Trump Nirvana to see everyone as the individuals we are.
Instead he continues to heap more insults onto black communities & individuals (along with all people of color, minorities & women) every time he opens his mouth.
He give no credence to the truth that he should be able to stare into the world outside of Trump Tower & the universe of Trump Nirvana to see everyone as the individuals we are.
Instead he continues to heap more insults onto black communities & individuals (along with all people of color, minorities & women) every time he opens his mouth.
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Not to mention my favorite. Making up that he received a letter from the NFL!!!
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mr. trump is an interesting fellow. He may attempting to change color now.
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From orange to black? As President Obama said, "Orange is NOT the new black."
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All true but irrelevant. Please address this question: Is the African-American community in a better state today than eight years ago? Or do you advocate that we ignore the statistics and vote based on racial animus?
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Actually, the whole country (including the African-American community) is better off financially than it was during the Bush Great Recession and its aftermath.
Unemployment is significantly lower.
Interest rates are lower.
The stock market is up over 100%.
Deficits are dropping.
On a non-financial basis we are also better off. The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq (heavily populated by black servicemen) is significantly reduced. More folks have healthcare. We havent started another military misadventure.
What is admittedly worse is the level of political gridlock and polarization. But isnt that mostly a reflection of kook radio and Fox "news", the latter being the first ever tv broadcast station purposefully set up and operated to push political propaganda? That its progenitor Ailes turned out to be a sex offender is a sad irony for a network that gives lip service to representing traditional American values.
Unemployment is significantly lower.
Interest rates are lower.
The stock market is up over 100%.
Deficits are dropping.
On a non-financial basis we are also better off. The military presence in Afghanistan and Iraq (heavily populated by black servicemen) is significantly reduced. More folks have healthcare. We havent started another military misadventure.
What is admittedly worse is the level of political gridlock and polarization. But isnt that mostly a reflection of kook radio and Fox "news", the latter being the first ever tv broadcast station purposefully set up and operated to push political propaganda? That its progenitor Ailes turned out to be a sex offender is a sad irony for a network that gives lip service to representing traditional American values.
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No, but are they any better off in states controlled by republicans (Ohio, for instance); and remember congress is in the hands of republicans. What have they done to help minorities?
And the conservative supreme court has actually hurt minorities with some of their decisions!
And the conservative supreme court has actually hurt minorities with some of their decisions!
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Yes, they are. Look at the employment numbers.
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Vile is the only word that comes to mind when I think about Trump and his campaign
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The Trump acolytes, who are probably members of the Obama-Uses-A-TelePrompTer cabal (although they never capitalize the product name properly in keeping with their patriotic tradition of spelling America in all lower case) are going to have seizures when their Donald is pushed to use the device. Obviously it is the sign of the Devil as well as scary people who say disagreeable un-patriotic things. Also it apparently triggers their association with those at-home detention ankle bracelets.
Hope Trump supporters can successfully sort through their conflicted feelings.
Hope Trump supporters can successfully sort through their conflicted feelings.
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Well, they know that these things are under the personal control of Satan, which we can tell by looking at the content of the mass media.
As Lincoln supposedly said, "You can fool some of the people, some of the time..." Not only is that time dwindling but the some is getting smaller by the day. Who believes that the master of the art of the insult, now "regrets" what he said, or that a man who implies that black voters in Philadelphia will 'steal" the election from him and who caricatures the problems of black communities to entertain his white audiences would be a champion to minorities? The Wizard of Mar Lago's curtain is fraying.
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"Champions of minorities" have been making it worse for the minorities, Easy to compare whether African Americans are better off now or they were better off 8 years ago.
Lincoln actually said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time." To which I always add, in politics, that's usually enough.
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It was Will Rogers who gave that famous quote.
A leopard cannot change its spots....my apologies to all leopards for comparing this guy to leopards.
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Nor a zebra his stripes. Nor a skunk his smell.
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Don't leopards play with their prey before killing them? My opinion of Trump is much the same: Everything's just another toy and then on to the next one. If one believes one will be bitten, then it is best to stay far away because his words are only for his own enjoyment.
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Trump, the con man, trying to con people again. We've already seen the "real' Donald Trump, and it ain't pretty.
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The “real” Donald Trump is found in the APA definition of projection;
a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person.
The epithets and accusations thrown at Secretary Clinton is his own personality “projected” on her.
Projection is frequently a symptom of narcissistic and borderline personalities, Donald Trump to a ‘T’. Clearly, he is mental case deserving a padded cell, not the Oval Office.
a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person.
The epithets and accusations thrown at Secretary Clinton is his own personality “projected” on her.
Projection is frequently a symptom of narcissistic and borderline personalities, Donald Trump to a ‘T’. Clearly, he is mental case deserving a padded cell, not the Oval Office.
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You mean "projective identification." I assume. It's a step beyond mere projection, since projective identification involves projecting only the bad (what one thinks is bad in oneself) onto others. It is possible to project good onto others -- just not by borderliners, whose greed would keep everything they themselves consider good for themselves. But perhaps psychologizing about the implied psyche of the entity under discussion is largely irrelevant, since there's not much there there, or too much greed, hate, and murderous rage and not much else. This is why it's also difficult to call it a hypocrite, because what it actually thinks may just be what it actually says at any given instant. A large number of human animals thinks according to the same pre- or arational pathologies of thought (well understood, but difficult to treat, or for a dumbed-down, impoverished society to admit): and those human animals are attracted to its greed and rage. So other solipsists, who think only "I/me," are forming a social bloc? Admittedly, this is irrational, but the last century has seen plenty of such irrationality. By the way: this is why one cannot reason with such beings: they are not susceptible to reason or to argumentation worthy of the name. The bottom line is not personal: the being in question is not only incompetent, but not remotely near the realm of competence. It just vomits words (great about itself and some very strange idea of family, awful about everyone else).
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Yup. You point one finger at someone else, 3 are being pointed back at you.
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I'm kind of going out on a limb here, and I may be wrong, but I think this is his first baby steps at trying to understand empathy.
Funny thing about empathy, though, is if you haven't figured out empathy by the time you are 70, you might just have to face the fact you are a sociopath.
Funny thing about empathy, though, is if you haven't figured out empathy by the time you are 70, you might just have to face the fact you are a sociopath.
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You are being to kind to a being is not kind to anyone.
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So appealing specifically to the needs of minorities re. jobs and safety is a show of empathy but talking about those things to voters as a whole was not? Interesting.
Trump isn't trying to empathize. It's just another scam. Trump is a huckster. He takes advantage of any fool that he can. He's just slapped a different label on his snake oil that he's trying to peddle to the voters because he's losing.
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Memo to DT:
Shallow and obnoxious is no way to go through life, son.
CC: the world
Shallow and obnoxious is no way to go through life, son.
CC: the world
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Let's be fair. Trump is new to the political scene and doesn't quite understand some of the nuances of political correctness like the kissing the baby thing.
And with minorities, just think about it, they are minority of the population by definition. Maybe he didn't notice them before.
Finally, he's a natural born liar so he's got the basic qualifications. Now he just has to master the rest.
And with minorities, just think about it, they are minority of the population by definition. Maybe he didn't notice them before.
Finally, he's a natural born liar so he's got the basic qualifications. Now he just has to master the rest.
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All 'those minorities' add up. Soon, very soon the minorities will add up to a majority. Demographics is destiny, and the Republican party must change or fade away. All the gerrymandering and "voter fraud" disenfranchisement they can enact will only hold it off so long... and time is running out. Republicans desperately need a new, moderate, and inclusive message. The party figured this out in their post-mortem after 2012, then promptly went in the other direction and doubled-down on the old message. Its not going to work, and it won't last even if they hang onto some states for a while.
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If ever there was an indication that slavery was not erased by Lincoln, that ownership of one group of Americans by another still exists, it is in the headlong rush to keep Republicans from wrenching African American voters away from their Democratic Party overlords.
It's not about Trump, it's not about Clinton, it's only about time people think for themselves. Even this esteemed newspaper, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/us/politics/donald-trump-black-voters....®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
can't bear the notion that this cycle's admittedly screwy candidate could speak for African Americans. Article after article has appeared on these pages for ages about the inequality of virtually every measurement by which Africans Americans can be rated or categorized. But suddenly we see, golly, in fact, that Africans Americans aren't at all as bad off as Trump asserts.
It's not about Trump, it's not about Clinton, it's only about time people think for themselves. Even this esteemed newspaper, in
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/25/us/politics/donald-trump-black-voters....®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
can't bear the notion that this cycle's admittedly screwy candidate could speak for African Americans. Article after article has appeared on these pages for ages about the inequality of virtually every measurement by which Africans Americans can be rated or categorized. But suddenly we see, golly, in fact, that Africans Americans aren't at all as bad off as Trump asserts.
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Andrew, and the mainstream press in general, is off base. Just like you were, Andrew, in obsessively declaring Bernie a "cult of personality." But mostly, with trump, you're too mild.
The real trump: every breath is noxious fraud on America. He must go down so hard.
The real trump: every breath is noxious fraud on America. He must go down so hard.
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So true, but....are the people voting for DT any less frightening, if for nothing more than their own ignorance and apparent lack of intelligence? I'm shocked when I read interviews with these people and hear their "reasons" for voting for DT. "He tells it like it is." "He's my kind of guy," etc. but with nothing backing it up, as if they haven't had a single question in their life that they've pondered, other than some kind of vague victimization.
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Trump is a terrible spokesperson for the cause. But he is 100% correct. Fifty years of the Great Society and welfare dependency have destroyed a large swath of the black community. So what does Hillary Clinton offer? What every other Democrat offers - more Great Society programs and more welfare dependency.
One notable exception - Bill Clinton's welfare reform of the 1990's. But that has been eviscerated by President Obama, and disavowed by Hillary Clinton.
One notable exception - Bill Clinton's welfare reform of the 1990's. But that has been eviscerated by President Obama, and disavowed by Hillary Clinton.
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Ah, my favorite part of the election cycle. Republicans - convinced that minority voters have been living under a rock and are completely unaware of their politics or policies - feel that if they "reach out" and deliver their speeches inside a Black church, a Hispanic school, or a women's conference, then suddenly these voters will flock en masse to the GOP.
It's so offensive it's ridiculous.
It's offensive because it assumes that these groups haven't been paying attention to any of the GOP's platform that treats anyone other than white Christian rich straight men as second-class citizens, or merely an election-day obstacle to overcome.
It's offensive because it assumes that minorities are so vapid and superficial that a speech delivered with a minority public figure standing on stage will immediately pique their interest.
It's offensive because it lays bare their absurd stereotypes of these communities. They don't "reach out" to propose new policies to aid minorities or women. They do it in a way that draws on cartoonish symbols of "diversity." Remember Trump's tweet of him eating a burrito bowl in Trump Tower as a nod to Hispanics? Remember Romney's Binders Full of Women?
I am confident that, like the rest of the country, Blacks and Latinos have heard all they need to hear from Donald Trump. Save your disingenuous pandering and move on.
It's so offensive it's ridiculous.
It's offensive because it assumes that these groups haven't been paying attention to any of the GOP's platform that treats anyone other than white Christian rich straight men as second-class citizens, or merely an election-day obstacle to overcome.
It's offensive because it assumes that minorities are so vapid and superficial that a speech delivered with a minority public figure standing on stage will immediately pique their interest.
It's offensive because it lays bare their absurd stereotypes of these communities. They don't "reach out" to propose new policies to aid minorities or women. They do it in a way that draws on cartoonish symbols of "diversity." Remember Trump's tweet of him eating a burrito bowl in Trump Tower as a nod to Hispanics? Remember Romney's Binders Full of Women?
I am confident that, like the rest of the country, Blacks and Latinos have heard all they need to hear from Donald Trump. Save your disingenuous pandering and move on.
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Solaris, you're right, except for one thing. Romney had binders full of resumes of women. Trump is the one who may have binders full of women.
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The GOP idea of reaching out can be summed up this way: two hands pushing anyone who is not part of the 1% into the deepest part of the lake fully aware that they cannot swim because they have severe cramps.
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It is the Black "leaders" who are criticizing The Donald for making these statements in front of "White" audiences. The issue for them, it seems is that politicians should court their congregations and community centers in person, so they can be seem to be power brokers forcing them to pay homage.
Rosenthal, as usual for the white elites, sneers and ridicules the millions of Americans who have not thrived under the rules of the game established by the neoliberal economic establishment that have reduced large sectors of the American population to hopelessness.
It is easy to ridicule Trump for his inconsistencies, but please tell us about Clinton's flip-flop on the TPP. Moreover, she is now against it (or is she), whereas Obama is for it. As well, she is going to continue his policies, but opposes his signature trade deal.
Clinton's phony pandering to Bernie's supporters is just the Democratic side of the coin. Does Rosenthal really think Trump cares about anyone except for their votes? Does Clinton?
Rosenthal, as usual for the white elites, sneers and ridicules the millions of Americans who have not thrived under the rules of the game established by the neoliberal economic establishment that have reduced large sectors of the American population to hopelessness.
It is easy to ridicule Trump for his inconsistencies, but please tell us about Clinton's flip-flop on the TPP. Moreover, she is now against it (or is she), whereas Obama is for it. As well, she is going to continue his policies, but opposes his signature trade deal.
Clinton's phony pandering to Bernie's supporters is just the Democratic side of the coin. Does Rosenthal really think Trump cares about anyone except for their votes? Does Clinton?
"Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen..."
Actually, Trump could have been describing some states in which he polls well, like Kentucky and West Virginia inter-alia, with his negative descriptions. And no, Democrats do not make the most harmful policies, Republicans do - taking funding from education, a tax-base favorable to the wealthy, cutting social services, fighting access to healthcare from the ACA, legislation making guns ubiquitous...
Trump's caricatured social pathologies are in no way limited to people of color or to Democratic voters.
Actually, Trump could have been describing some states in which he polls well, like Kentucky and West Virginia inter-alia, with his negative descriptions. And no, Democrats do not make the most harmful policies, Republicans do - taking funding from education, a tax-base favorable to the wealthy, cutting social services, fighting access to healthcare from the ACA, legislation making guns ubiquitous...
Trump's caricatured social pathologies are in no way limited to people of color or to Democratic voters.
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The poor, uneducated people in some of those deep red states can't see past the ends of their noses.
(Maybe they should see an ophthalmologist. Excuse me, make that "eye doctor." Too big a word that, "ophthalmologist.")
(Maybe they should see an ophthalmologist. Excuse me, make that "eye doctor." Too big a word that, "ophthalmologist.")
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My dilemma. Sleazy competence or bigoted ignorance
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I hear you. Vote for competence.
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Who says, "My fellow Americans, point one: we're all in this together"? Certainly not DJT. Who says, "Let us all appeal to our better natures"? Certainly not DJT. Who says, "Our solutions have to include everyone"? Certainly not DJT. Who says, "Yes, global banking and robotics have changed the employment scenario forever, let's build a new way of life"? Not DJT. He doesn't say anything anywhere near any of this. He relishes and promotes every awful ethic. Why should I not run as fast as I can away from him?
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Two words for anyone who wants to believe in the "real" Donald Trump - Trump University.
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I hear he's going to "personally congratulate every Trump voter" - just like he personally picked the Trump University instructors.
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Oh, goodness gracious, Jason and Jim, haven't you been paying any attention to Midway and Richard and DCBarrister who keep assuring us--against all evidence to the contrary--that it is Hillary who is the liar and Trump is simply an honest, successful, hard-working businessman who "tells it like it is"?
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Watching Trump nosedive in the polls, and seeing the American people reject his views for the future of America, give me renewed hope for our country. Imagine if he had been smart enough to listen to republican experts, and toned down his racist, asinine rants. He might have become our next POTUS. THAT'S what horrifies me.
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Really, we should be thanking him for being so nakedly revolting.
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The fat lady hasn't sung yet. He could win. I'm very afraid of the results after the polls close on November 8. I would think most rational people are.
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Ed,
You might want to look at the real poles that include 4 candidates as will the November election!
Hillary is down 1.5% just this week. The spread today is 4% in most of those polls (Real Clear Politics 4 way Poll). The margin of error is 3% in most of those polls.
You might want to look at the real poles that include 4 candidates as will the November election!
Hillary is down 1.5% just this week. The spread today is 4% in most of those polls (Real Clear Politics 4 way Poll). The margin of error is 3% in most of those polls.
On the surface it looks as if Trump is reaching out to black voters, but he is not. With 99% of blacks saying they won't for him , going after that vote would be a fool's errand. Instead, this is really an attempt to calm the fears of moderate Republicans that they might be voting for a racist if they cast a ballot for Trump.
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perfectly plausible...
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I agree completely with your analysis. He has a better chance of selling Canadian sand oil to the king of Saudi Arabia than winning votes in my black community so he is grandstanding to the "good white people" to show he is not the one who is racist, those folks are, them and their terrible areas.
I do hope that the few sensible people still in his corner just evaluate the facts, Mr. Trump is a loose cannon that even a country as good as the US cannot afford at the steering wheel of state. Pls open your eyes and see through Mr. Trump.
I do hope that the few sensible people still in his corner just evaluate the facts, Mr. Trump is a loose cannon that even a country as good as the US cannot afford at the steering wheel of state. Pls open your eyes and see through Mr. Trump.
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And they would be. Plain, simple, and white.
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Equal opportunity con man.
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Makes me think of The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Trump looks the same, maybe a bit less orange, but has been replaced by a kindly, religious, immigrant-friendly, minority-loving, schmoozing Republican pod person.
But eventually, the real Trump will bust back out with a vengeance.
But eventually, the real Trump will bust back out with a vengeance.
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I think I have already seen too much of the real Donald Trump - putting lipstick on a pig with small hands is too grotesque to imagine.
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Remember when Trump said at a rally: "Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him. Are you the greatest?" He has a long history of discriminating against minorities. Trump wants to now pretend that he is the savior of African-Americans and other minorities? Wait until election day Mr. Trump - Karma is a sweet thing.
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Donald Trump takes the American public as a bunch of naive fools who cannot see through him. But no one likes to be taken as a fool and Trump's free fall in popularity is evidence of that.
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The best-case scenario is Donald Trump losing in a landslide, and the House and Senate going down with him. Unfortunately, even in that scenario, the hatred, racism and bigotry that he has encouraged will rage on.
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Note to Self:
Time to re-read Aesop's fable about the Scorpion & the Frog.
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Funny, I had been thinking about the frogs who wanted a king. But I looked yours up and apparently it did not originate with Aesop, though it is very appropriate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog
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Desperate times require desperate solutions. Donald has every reason to feel desperate. It has become apparent that he has led such an insular life that he can't reach out to any group without insulting them. Women,
African-Americans, Latinos/Hispanics, and educated Whites. I just hope he keeps up the good work.
African-Americans, Latinos/Hispanics, and educated Whites. I just hope he keeps up the good work.
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I am a pro-life woman.
He has not insulted me.
The vulgar talk -- the small hands, the blood coming from her wherever that was interpreted as menstrual blood... -- all that comes from media interpretation. Ditto with the "how much have YOU sacrificed?" Khan family, judging the souls of others. I am sorry their son died, but THAT was offensive. IN America, just because your enlisted son died, you don't get to judge others, and definitely not their souls...
If the black people want more war and money spent on bombing the smithereens out of people's homes overseas, thus creating more displaced refugees, then let them vote Dem. I don't think they are so dumb as to fall for Mrs. Clinton though: a hawkish female Bush in expensive clothing...
He has not insulted me.
The vulgar talk -- the small hands, the blood coming from her wherever that was interpreted as menstrual blood... -- all that comes from media interpretation. Ditto with the "how much have YOU sacrificed?" Khan family, judging the souls of others. I am sorry their son died, but THAT was offensive. IN America, just because your enlisted son died, you don't get to judge others, and definitely not their souls...
If the black people want more war and money spent on bombing the smithereens out of people's homes overseas, thus creating more displaced refugees, then let them vote Dem. I don't think they are so dumb as to fall for Mrs. Clinton though: a hawkish female Bush in expensive clothing...
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You forgot several of other groups that he offends, not having experienced their situation:
Immigrants (even though he seems to like marrying them.)
Military vets, including medal recipients and POWs.
Gold Star families.
Immigrants (even though he seems to like marrying them.)
Military vets, including medal recipients and POWs.
Gold Star families.
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Sorry, Midway, but many of us heard Trump say those things and didn't wait for the media to tell us hoe to interpret what he says. We were and are perfectly capable of understanding slime on our own. I wonder just where you, OTOH, got the rather silly idea that it's "media interpretation" that has people thinking that Trump is vulgar, crude, sexist, and racist?
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I hope you are not over rating the American Voter; my bet is, a lot of people won't remember anything Trump said a month from now
But I thought we wern't ready to elect a black guy, so what do i know ?
But I thought we wern't ready to elect a black guy, so what do i know ?
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A black guy? How about a well-read, reflective, thoughtful, intelligent man, Harvard educated, Constitutional lawyer, community worker, who is knowledgeable about history, American Democracy, foreign relations. You see, donald hated that black guy so much he spent millions on his sick birther lies, and in his undeveloped mind told himself if that black guy can be president, so can I. No, donald, you can't. You're not smart enough, not good enough, you lack integrity, honesty, and morality. It's the sign of the true racist for anyone to hate a black man for becoming something the white man could not become.
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Look closely at the photo. Not exactly an accurate cross-section of America, huh?
VOTE.
VOTE.
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HAHAHA I looked at the picture and could not avoid laughing. Did you notice the lady with the heart shaped glasses?? Sorry...I know it does not add anything to this debate; I just found it hilarious.
He tried to campaign in Chicago last year.
Hillary supporters closed down his rally there.
Who is ostracizing the black voters?
Hillary supporters closed down his rally there.
Who is ostracizing the black voters?
That's what Sarah Palin refers to as the "real America ".
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So now Donald Trump is going to disavow the white supremacist racists and be friendly with minorities - and he's changed? DIdn't Mitt Romney get trashed for "flip flopping" - but now, if something different comes out of the Donald's mouth, that changes everything? Really? I mean really?
Really?
Wow.
I really hope minority voters aren't as dumb as the rest of white America. Let's pray for that.
Really?
Wow.
I really hope minority voters aren't as dumb as the rest of white America. Let's pray for that.
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Save your prayers for people who need them. We read, listen and think for ourselves and there isn't a person of color in this nation who has not heard what that horrible, poor excuse for a human, has had to say.
I do get your point, but please believe we've not been fooled by much "better" candidates than Donaldo.
I do get your point, but please believe we've not been fooled by much "better" candidates than Donaldo.
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Don't worry, we ain't. Seen that bum coming from the other side of the mountain.
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Couldn't agree more with this opinion piece. There will be no Trump turnaround. He is truly a wolf in wolf's clothing, and all the teleprompter speeches and coaching by his new team won't change that. Plus, let's not forget that his team is led by one of the most notorious racists in the country!
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Trump talks to all white audiences who are entertained by his performances. Trump is an entertainer who performs according to the responses of his audience, like any good stand up comedian. He is also completely amoral and totally devoted to obtaining whatever he wants for the moment without any concern for the consequences down the road. When he says, "...believe me...", anyone not mesmerized by his act knows that it's a tell, that he does not know what he said can be done or is true or not, it just seemed like the best thing to say. His supporters are so taken with him, today, that they do not care what happens to themselves nor to anyone, tomorrow. That he has a shot at being elected President should make everyone with a working mind vote for Hillary in November.
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Trump will soon join Faux News as a commentator on the new show "Are you an American"?
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Telling black voters they are a bunch of losers, as Trump has, is not "reaching out."
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Maybe Dr. Carson is really white.
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