While Hillary can discuss Laos for four minutes Trump couldn't even find it on a map.
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It greatly distresses me that Hillary's "meme-ability" is written about at all, never mind at the Times. I've also had enough of the innuendos and conspiracy blather. Did we fall down a rabbit hole? HRC is the most qualified candidate, maybe ever, has dedicated her life to good works, and can thrillingly take us through complicated policy on most any subject. It's just obscene, really, that a viral tweet (any viral tweet) is talked about seriously.
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Mark Zuckerberg has destroyed society with his Facebook. Nobody knows how to communicate face to face any longer.
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@bill
Totally agree. Facebook has made it much easier to say cruel and snarky things behind a mask of anonymity, and has turned social mobbing into a new group sport.
Totally agree. Facebook has made it much easier to say cruel and snarky things behind a mask of anonymity, and has turned social mobbing into a new group sport.
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From personal experience, I know that age discrimination becomes a problem for software developers as young as 39. The stereotype of “tech-savvy young people” is not helpful.
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Mrs. Clinton is at her "authentic best" when appearing unscripted before an audience not consisting of sycophants like Emma Roller; a case in point being her zombie-like response to a question about unexploded bombs in Laos, wherein she revealed no knowledge of unexploded bombs, other than those still hiding in her private email account.
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Did you just use the words "World Wide Web" in an article? Is the reporter trying to be ironic when writing of current social media trends while using terminology from the last century?
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Reeks of effort.
To quote Homerpalooza:
Marge: Well, how the [expletive] do you be cool? I feel like we've tried everything here.
Homer: Wait, Marge. Maybe if you're truly cool, you don't need to be told you're cool.
Bart: Well, sure you do.
Lisa: How else would you know?
To quote Homerpalooza:
Marge: Well, how the [expletive] do you be cool? I feel like we've tried everything here.
Homer: Wait, Marge. Maybe if you're truly cool, you don't need to be told you're cool.
Bart: Well, sure you do.
Lisa: How else would you know?
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Despite "being on facebook" & despite my intention to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton, I will not respond to any facebook requests for "friendship".
I keep my friends & acquaintances close to the vest & prefer not to share them with the DNC, RNC, hackers no matter what nationality, the CIA, FBI, DNI, DoD, DHS, FSB, MSS, ISI, GIP, in no particular order.
I keep my friends & acquaintances close to the vest & prefer not to share them with the DNC, RNC, hackers no matter what nationality, the CIA, FBI, DNI, DoD, DHS, FSB, MSS, ISI, GIP, in no particular order.
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I've seen Katrina Pierson claim Hillary Clinton has brain damage.
I had brain damage in 2003. I used to watch tv programs & hours later not remember them. When I went shopping, I often left w/ nothing because I couldn't remember I had a shopping list. I held out a handful of change to the cashier explaining I no longer knew how to count. My brain damage was relatively minor yet life-disrupting & frightening. It took years to recover.
After watching Hillary talk w/ BLM protesters & her 11 hour Benghazi testimony, I'm sure Hillary Clinton doesn't have brain damage. She's intelligent, focused & has an outstanding memory. Katrina Pierson is smearing her.
Why do CNN & MSNBC continue to invite Katrina Pierson to discuss Hillary when Pierson has a lengthy record of atrocious lying? Obama started the war in Afghanistan?? PLEASE! Just because the Trump campaign keeps offering Pierson doesn't mean networks must use her.
The Trump campaign uses Katrina Pierson to repeat this lie about Hillary & brain damage just to get it in front of the public, the same way the Bush campaign used Swift Boat Veterans to claim war hero John Kerry was a liar, coward & traitor. After they pushed these lies about Kerry again & again, the damage was done.
CNN & MSNBC should refuse to book Pierson again. She's a dangerous liar.
The media needs to take some responsibility!
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
I had brain damage in 2003. I used to watch tv programs & hours later not remember them. When I went shopping, I often left w/ nothing because I couldn't remember I had a shopping list. I held out a handful of change to the cashier explaining I no longer knew how to count. My brain damage was relatively minor yet life-disrupting & frightening. It took years to recover.
After watching Hillary talk w/ BLM protesters & her 11 hour Benghazi testimony, I'm sure Hillary Clinton doesn't have brain damage. She's intelligent, focused & has an outstanding memory. Katrina Pierson is smearing her.
Why do CNN & MSNBC continue to invite Katrina Pierson to discuss Hillary when Pierson has a lengthy record of atrocious lying? Obama started the war in Afghanistan?? PLEASE! Just because the Trump campaign keeps offering Pierson doesn't mean networks must use her.
The Trump campaign uses Katrina Pierson to repeat this lie about Hillary & brain damage just to get it in front of the public, the same way the Bush campaign used Swift Boat Veterans to claim war hero John Kerry was a liar, coward & traitor. After they pushed these lies about Kerry again & again, the damage was done.
CNN & MSNBC should refuse to book Pierson again. She's a dangerous liar.
The media needs to take some responsibility!
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
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I'll be your - friend?- fan? - gimme a break! Presidential Nominee and former Secy of State and First Lady - never seen such patronizing weirdness - I am and will be an informed voter. Period.
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I don't care what none of y'all say I still love her.
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This pandering that politicians do is so absurd! Why do they need to be on twitter or facebook. They are idiot realms. It shows how far politicians are willing to go to join the herd of online addicts. Hilary will not be a friend to anyone other than to her inner circle. It's so fake. The Donald on the other hand is so shallow and narcissistic he is a tweet. He is a cartoon figure who doesn't have the attention span or depth of an ant. This move is just another mark in the "don't vote for Hilary" column. Ants, I apologize for speaking ill of you.
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Bill Clinton playing sax on Arsenio Hall was not an embarrassment. Bill was one of the Pepsi generation-- the first to become president-- and that show at the time was cool. And so was Bill. And for an amateur, he played pretty darn good. (Just as Nixon played a nice piano-- he just was not able to be funny on a show like Laugh-In.) Wish we could have had Bill for a third term-- our history and present time would be so much different. And better.
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I would much rather have a President who can give a spontaneous, detailed response on unexploded bombs in Laos, than one who probably couldn't find Laos on a map. I am not expecting the President to be my BFF. I want one who can function in the extremely complex and dangerous world that we live in.
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Excellent comment. Thank you, AM!
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I don't need my president to be warm or media efficient. I do need my president to be, however, not beholden to special interests, to secret powers, gun manufacturers, engineering contractors and banks. And Hillary will never have my vote because she will have to pawn the entire USA to pay her debts to the powers that got her elected
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And the Donald will invite the Russians to invade Eastern Europe and will even help them by choosing not to defend our allies.
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This Puff Piece about Hillary demonstrates how far the mighty New York Times has fallen. What's next, an essay about her shoes? How about how grandma should learn to use emails without breaking the law?
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Every time I, a Sanders supporter in the Primary, ready to vote for Clinton/not Trump in November, get an email from Clinton, about once a day, telling me that "As one of my strongest supporters" she knows I'll want this free, if donating $10 makes it free? sticker, or will want to donate x before y, makes never donate beyond my convention $10 kumbaya donation, and makes it harder and harder to vote for her. I tried to reply, to tell someone, even the most junior data clerk, how I felt and I was sent to a "send an idea" form which could not be completed without filling their data bank with street address and phone #. I took it from the pro, lied about my phone #, I mean perhaps I wasn't totally clear about it. I'm from Florida, doesn't her tech team have a be smart with voters in these states list? If reliable polls show her taking Florida, I will not contribute to the lie of being with her or the landslide "vote of confidence for her."
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How much do I have to pay her to stop sending me emails?
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@barge
If you don't know how to block unwanted mail, ask someone to show you.
If you don't know how to block unwanted mail, ask someone to show you.
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Unsubscribe. That advice is free.
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Just click the unsubscribe link at the bottom of your next email.
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The only way for Hillary to be authentic is to embrace her inauthenticity. She is a politician, which means she is wily, experienced, cynical and power-hungry.
And this is exactly what she should be. If you don't want power, why would you run for office? If you are not wily, Putin will have you for breakfast. If you are not experienced, how will you govern? This idea that a politician should be morally pure is ridiculous. Bernie was pure and sincere - and was peddling a poisonous and outdated ideology. I agree with Hillary's positions on most important foreign and domestic issues. But her attempts to be "my best friend" rub me a wrong way. Just let her come out and say what she means and be what she is.
And this is exactly what she should be. If you don't want power, why would you run for office? If you are not wily, Putin will have you for breakfast. If you are not experienced, how will you govern? This idea that a politician should be morally pure is ridiculous. Bernie was pure and sincere - and was peddling a poisonous and outdated ideology. I agree with Hillary's positions on most important foreign and domestic issues. But her attempts to be "my best friend" rub me a wrong way. Just let her come out and say what she means and be what she is.
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She is probably going to benefit from the young female voter, most of whom know nothing about politics, issues or problems of class inequality, because they are married to their IPhones texting meaningless meanderings to their peers. It's a woman thing. Get her elected. Meanwhile Trump appeals to the young male rabble-rousers eager to prove their manhood by machoeing everybody about how tough they and Trump are. It seems the intelligent voter knows that neither candidate is worth getting overly excited over.
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I don't need or expect my President to come across blithely on socme. I need someone who unrest's the issues in depth and understand a multifaceted approach to this complex world we live in. A smart, tough nerd is fine with me.
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Pity that our elections, even for the highest office of the land, are more popularity contests than vetting of skills and talents needed for office. Sometimes it seems as if even many of the talking heads cannot distinguish between vetting a candidate running for an elected position and determining if a person is someone worthy dating or marrying or just being around. While it is very possible a person running for office with a great grasp of issues, policies and other skills needed for a particular position also has the qualities to be a great spouse, or to be "hip" these are different "positions" and should be treated as such. Perhaps its the money involved in campaigns, or perhaps it is the way we have been teaching our children, but our voters seem to prefer showy people. Our news covers the exciting or the very strange, and pure policy discussion is limited. Hillary has quite a bit to say, but the focus these days seems to be more on what she said in e-mails and what her doctor says about her health. (Pity the same intense scrutiny as she gets hasn't been turned on every political person - bet there might be some real quid pro quo arrangements out there) Trump knows how to get media coverage and understands that folks will forget what was said, but will remember the brand "Trump" if it is constantly before them. He manipulates the news daily. We see him as "authentic" but not as contradicting himself. All this has made this election harder for voters.
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“Won’t you be my friend? Just click on the ‘confirm’ button and your bank account will be auto-debited $200 monthly – don’t worry, my husband still has contacts at the IRS and we know EVERYTHING about you. You might remember that when pondering the possibility of NOT clicking on ‘confirm’.
“This money, which regrettably won’t stop after 8 November, really is necessary to mount a defense on all this email nonsense that could get Donald Trump elected instead of me, denying you the privilege of validating my destiny as your president. We’re also negotiating with Vladimir Putin to hold back the full 33,000 that we properly “erased” but that his goons hacked and stole; and we don’t expect him to come cheap.
“Oh, and don’t worry: your monthly tithe of $200 will go to my foundation and is fully deductible as a charitable contribution.”
“This money, which regrettably won’t stop after 8 November, really is necessary to mount a defense on all this email nonsense that could get Donald Trump elected instead of me, denying you the privilege of validating my destiny as your president. We’re also negotiating with Vladimir Putin to hold back the full 33,000 that we properly “erased” but that his goons hacked and stole; and we don’t expect him to come cheap.
“Oh, and don’t worry: your monthly tithe of $200 will go to my foundation and is fully deductible as a charitable contribution.”
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Richard please stick to serious commentary. Satire and humor are not your fbest suits.
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I recently read Ezra Kline's article in VOX on "What America Doesn't know about Hillary Clinton". It remarked on two very important elements of her personality: 1) how effective her Listening Tours were in NY when she was stumping for her Senate seat; and, 2) how much the people at the State Department loved her. The ability to listen, sort through a problem, and evolve a solution with others is a skill we need in a President. This is a very bright and kind woman who is also really tough (eleven hours in front of a Senate Committee?). She has the demeanor, skill, and dignity that this country needs to lead us at home and in front of the world. There are a lot of difficult and complicated issues in front of us that someone of her broad experience can handle.
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So why not let Hillary Clinton do what she does best, which is lead the country, and let Donald Trump do what he does best, which is make a fool of himself on reality (or realty) TV, and be responsible for nothing?
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Every time I hear the Right wing scream Benghazi, I think back to those hearings. It is 100% certain not one of her interrogators could have stood up to this obnoxious, endless questioning with as much grace and aplomb and poise as HRC. Presidential indeed! (can you imagine the Donald going through something like that!?)
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This was a good piece, and reminds one about the landmines (no pun intended) that politicians have to negotiate in the modern social media era.
It also points to the larger question of what politics (and books and art and film) will become in the age of Vine, Twitter, and the short attention span.
It also points to the larger question of what politics (and books and art and film) will become in the age of Vine, Twitter, and the short attention span.
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Well, her request will be denied, rather, she will get no response.
I have chosen not to look at my facebook account, not close it, but not open it.
So "they" can collect numbers on marketing but they will not be accurate due to the fact that there are no eyeballs "seeing".
I have chosen not to look at my facebook account, not close it, but not open it.
So "they" can collect numbers on marketing but they will not be accurate due to the fact that there are no eyeballs "seeing".
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I closed my Farcebook account a long time, I do not Twiddle, and I am not Linked Out. Clinton would be better as a friend than most of the other people who mostly talk about themselves.
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This person is a worn out freak, playing a joke on the American people. Get rid of her! We deserve a candidate who cares about us more than they care about them self.
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Honestly, who wants to interact on Facebook with one's grandmother? Or on Twitter with the likes of your grandmother's ex-boyfriend? Has this replaced the "person I'd want to have a beer with" standard of electability? I thought Obama nailed it when he said H Clinton was "likable enough." I'm not certain Trump rises to even that standard. Elections are already saturated in saccharine sweetness. Do we really need this over sharing that social media demands? Or is this new platform for pandering here to stay?
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Fifteen years ago, Hillary came to my town. This was before smartphones, but I had a small digital camera with me. I asked her if I could have a photo with her, without a moment's hesitation she posed next to me, seconds later I had a wonderful pre-selfie selfie with Hillary Clinton. She was extremely friendly and approachable, not at all like the "cold, aloof politician" media characterization.
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@marike
The "cold, aloof politician", and every other negative dig about Clinton's personality also comes courtesy of Republicans who work overtime finding vindictive thing to say.
Anyway, just look at the presidential nominee they've given us...
That says it all.
The "cold, aloof politician", and every other negative dig about Clinton's personality also comes courtesy of Republicans who work overtime finding vindictive thing to say.
Anyway, just look at the presidential nominee they've given us...
That says it all.
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If the request was sent thru an email from a ''highly personal server'', one can try hard not to guffaw. In addition, if she confesses to her blemishes in that very same email, she can hope to conquer her intractability, presumptuousness, and highfalutin attitudes.
But then, who is kidding whom? Complete candor may be hard to come by from any politician, who, more often than not, tend to be circumlocutory, cagey, and dodgy.
On the contrary, she might love, or already is loving, platitudes, bromides, and demagogic rhetorics, which can bamboozle and blindfold an ordinary voter almost ad nauseam. As usual, one can only settle for a least undesirable person, and so be it.
But then, who is kidding whom? Complete candor may be hard to come by from any politician, who, more often than not, tend to be circumlocutory, cagey, and dodgy.
On the contrary, she might love, or already is loving, platitudes, bromides, and demagogic rhetorics, which can bamboozle and blindfold an ordinary voter almost ad nauseam. As usual, one can only settle for a least undesirable person, and so be it.
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After getting Sanders out of the way, I should be surprised that her campaign is still concerned with packaging. Keep it basic, digestible sound-bites/ worked for Obama..., what a sad statement it makes on our society.
Luckily, thanks to Donald's continual gaffs, it looks like tormented people like myself, concerned with inequality, climate change, and military adventurism, won't need to hold our noses in order to protect the supreme court.
I'm estimating the worst voter turnout and a nice count for Jill Stein.
Luckily, thanks to Donald's continual gaffs, it looks like tormented people like myself, concerned with inequality, climate change, and military adventurism, won't need to hold our noses in order to protect the supreme court.
I'm estimating the worst voter turnout and a nice count for Jill Stein.
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Clinton is fine, but she has a lot of people working for her who are incompetent creeps! I gave her campaign $250, and they called me on the phone for more. I said I just gave some money, and they said, yes you gave $250 but we want you to know about a matching fund. I hung up on them. I think a lot of them would prefer she was losing so they could justify grubbing for more money.
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As usual, Brooks et al. ignore the impact of the hard right Conservatives. Nothing happens because they won't let anything happen other than their extreme agenda and nobody else is open to their extreme agenda. So here we sit grinding our teeth while they complain and blame everybody else for the consequences of their actions.
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Oh, you are just saying that because the Republicans won't do anything about Zika unless the Democrats agree to abolish Obamacare and Planned Parenthood.
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"That's the authentic Hillary" stated Mr.Goff. Yeah, right. She's a politician. What separates her from the caucasian detritus, Mr.Trump, is her intellect and experience. Otherwise, she's just as mendacious as the others. Maybe more. The money spent to win an election is egregious. I wish it was used to help the victims of fires and floods here; or, save the children in Aleppo.
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What Hillary really needs to do is create a sales pitch for her policies and her achievements comparing it to the Republicans in Congress and Trump. They have a product 100 times better than the Republicans who's last President lost two wars, enhanced radical terrorism, and who's de-regulations and tax cuts for the rich nearly caused a second great depression. In the last 8 years all the Republicans have been doing is cheerleading for the failure of the President and the government, and obstructing every political solution to any of America's problems. Yet she and the Dems are constantly acting like they are on the defensive.
Maybe she should use simple charts like Ross Perot did. On one column: I am for and we have accomplished in the last 8 years, and on the right side column, this is what the Republicans are for and what they have done (wasted millions on repeals and phony investigations).
Included in her column on accomplishments and policy plans should be a bold answer stating the Clinton foundation has spent it's donations on the following.....and list all the organizations it has given money to and all the disadvantaged people here, and in the world the money donated to the foundation where ever it came from, has helped. and than compare that to what Trump or the Republicans have done to help these causes, Zero! Case closed. Yeah, it's fine to go on social media. But much more important to sell hard, the Dem's product versus a bad GOP product.
Maybe she should use simple charts like Ross Perot did. On one column: I am for and we have accomplished in the last 8 years, and on the right side column, this is what the Republicans are for and what they have done (wasted millions on repeals and phony investigations).
Included in her column on accomplishments and policy plans should be a bold answer stating the Clinton foundation has spent it's donations on the following.....and list all the organizations it has given money to and all the disadvantaged people here, and in the world the money donated to the foundation where ever it came from, has helped. and than compare that to what Trump or the Republicans have done to help these causes, Zero! Case closed. Yeah, it's fine to go on social media. But much more important to sell hard, the Dem's product versus a bad GOP product.
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What she’s particularly skilled at is answering a different question than the one asked.
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And Mr. Trump doesn't know how to answer questions at all...or did you miss that??
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"...people think of Mrs. Clinton as calculating and untrustworthy." A lot of people don't, Ms Roller. And wouldn't it hit higher on the integrity scale if, when you can't resist dumping unproven comments such as this one, you note that the perceptions are largely the result of conservative attack politics fertilized by a media eager for controversy, fair or not.
In 2015, Clinton was voted most admired woman in the world for the twentieth time. In 2016, "people" think of her as "calculating and untrustworthy," qualities that suggest the mass media, for me at least, more than Hillary Clinton. Where are your journalistic ethics? Telling only half the story is cheating.
In 2015, Clinton was voted most admired woman in the world for the twentieth time. In 2016, "people" think of her as "calculating and untrustworthy," qualities that suggest the mass media, for me at least, more than Hillary Clinton. Where are your journalistic ethics? Telling only half the story is cheating.
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It is a fact: two thirds of the USA voters find her untrustworthy, dishonest and calculating. That's why she will say anything to get elected and people know this. People aren't stupid. Seriously.
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Well this writer is better than a certain other writer who covers her campaign, who loses no opportunity to make nasty cracks at Clinton's expense because her heart belongs to Bernie.
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Dave,
You mustn't have seen the poll where 38% (+ or - ) of registered Dems do not find her trustworthy.
You mustn't have seen the poll where 38% (+ or - ) of registered Dems do not find her trustworthy.
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My favorite Hillary Clinton speeches are the boring ones. Finding and laying out detailed, technical solutions to complex problems is her passion and it's how she shows she cares. It's awkward whenever she tries to display outward emotion. That's just her personality type. I can relate on a personal level, so I understand and love her for it. I know others like me do as well.
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When she has ideas that are well-developed and interesting, and expresses them well, she is not boring. This is true about anybody. Trump has few if any ideas, so he is happy to be shocking, and how many people will vote for him other than the rubes he lives off of.
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One last reflection. If you haven't already noticed, facebook is no longer the free forum of the hip. Arguably it never was. That said, while still a useful platform for digital congregation, the space is now roughly the equivalent of walking into a family party at home. Heart warming maybe but not a space for the private thoughts of the young. You must go further afield for an honest appraisal of the youthful generation.
What field is that you say? First rule: you don't talk about it. Second rule: you don't talk about it.
What field is that you say? First rule: you don't talk about it. Second rule: you don't talk about it.
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Who cares about the private thoughts of the very young? I don't! I'm more interested in the interesting thoughts of the intellectually involved, and of course this includes the very young if they want to pay attention. More of them are than people think!
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As a senior citizen - somewhat "semi-literate" with computers - but sometimes long for the days of non-Internet radio & TV, printed newspapers, etc. - though these items are still here, perhaps dying somewhat - the mention of "meme" prompted me to my trusty Random House Dictionary - Unabridged, 1,895 pages, copyright 1971 - and lo and behold, I could not find "meme" - the only words beginning with "meme" was Memel, a seaport in northwest Lithuania, and memento. So I went to the excellent Wikipedia (don't castigate it folks) and found "meme" with an extensive exposition on the word - including the apparent origination of the word by Richard Dawkins in his 1976 book "The Selfish Gene" - just 5 years after my above noted Dictionary. Guess I'd better buy a new dictionary, also to keep up with my 19 year old grand-daughter - in the cohort (argumentatively) in either Generation "Z" (probably) or Millenial Gen "Y" (possibly) - she assuredly can bring me up to date. Lastly, I'll not be "surprised" - OK I'm being facetious - when the President (either one) handles its press conferences, State of the Union, Cabinet meetings, etc. via "twitter" and "texts" and "emails" - either public or secure, as the circumstances dictate. Onward.
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Yeah but why didn't Hillary just send me an email?
:-)
:-)
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Maybe she already knows you don't like her?
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All I ever get is requests for money, and they never stop. For information go to the NY Times, the BBC, NPR, and Voice of America.
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I guess this all did start when Bill played his saxophone on Arsenio Hall, so there is some family culpability, but Hillary will never be one of the in -crowd socially or in the media. If only there was someone in her campaign who could distill encyclopedic familiarity with government programs into catchy tweets .... what she is good at isn't entertaining; when she tries to act entertaining, it's clear that she is neither comfortable nor skilled at the efforts. But I find that DJT's "entertainment" is boorish, threatening and full of lies, and at least in the primary, completely diverted the media from his vacuous announcements.
I wish she'd find a place in herself where she could simply talk to voters about the issues. And be judged on that.
I wish she'd find a place in herself where she could simply talk to voters about the issues. And be judged on that.
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Nixon's appearance on Laugh In wasn't half as interesting as his appearance with a yo-yo on Hee-Haw, where his total contempt for his audience was obvious. The only question was whether their contempt for him was greater than his for them.
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With or without social media, the Clinton juggernaut is going to crash and burn before November.
We need Bernie. Now!
We need Bernie. Now!
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Given Ms. Clinton's escapades with email, she should probably think twice about anything not involving the USPS.
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An analysis on memes in the presidential election from a group of students in USC's Masters of Journalism program.
http://uscstoryspace.com/2016-2017/group09/
http://uscstoryspace.com/2016-2017/group09/
Ms. Roller, I like your writing style so you were the first thing I read this morning.
I am happy that Mrs. C is wonkish because she knows that she must sort through issues with advice coming from all quarters and knows from the get-go that she is only as effective as she can explain an issue to the American people with all levels of education, experience and ages to effectively lead their government.
I have only listened to her on TV but she seems to communicate very well, certainly much better than Mr. T, I don't rely on Facebook, tweets but tend to stick with NYT, WaPo, & books. Then I try to listen to C-Span while driving to and from work which is about 1 hour.
I am an energy, environment, and transportation wonk and I like for people to get into the nitty gritty, including the exotic topics of the barriers posed by Federalism in national transportation and energy planning. Since I have professionally worked in pubic policy, budget, and the economy's performance, I admire people who can explain very clearly, without jargon, significant issues and trends and then generate alternatives with the pros and cons. The logic is more convincing if the speaker can cite the evidence supporting policy, usually historical.
Mrs. C will need to be in top form to meet the challenge of shifting away from fossil fuels in electric power generation and in transportation. It can be done but she will have to be in top form to improve the lives of American's in the process.
I am happy that Mrs. C is wonkish because she knows that she must sort through issues with advice coming from all quarters and knows from the get-go that she is only as effective as she can explain an issue to the American people with all levels of education, experience and ages to effectively lead their government.
I have only listened to her on TV but she seems to communicate very well, certainly much better than Mr. T, I don't rely on Facebook, tweets but tend to stick with NYT, WaPo, & books. Then I try to listen to C-Span while driving to and from work which is about 1 hour.
I am an energy, environment, and transportation wonk and I like for people to get into the nitty gritty, including the exotic topics of the barriers posed by Federalism in national transportation and energy planning. Since I have professionally worked in pubic policy, budget, and the economy's performance, I admire people who can explain very clearly, without jargon, significant issues and trends and then generate alternatives with the pros and cons. The logic is more convincing if the speaker can cite the evidence supporting policy, usually historical.
Mrs. C will need to be in top form to meet the challenge of shifting away from fossil fuels in electric power generation and in transportation. It can be done but she will have to be in top form to improve the lives of American's in the process.
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Social media is seriously over-rated and often, not very social.
And the need to Tweet every 5 minutes, or take a "selfie" of every imaginable act borders on invasive.
Since when does a presidential candidate need to be a "BFF"??
Since when do you have to be meme to get people's attention??
Social media doesn't make one more likeable -- It makes one a target.
And somehow it manages to bring out the worst in people.
But if its going to keep this country from falling into the raptor-like grip of a certain racist and invective spewing Republican candidate, I'm all for it.
By the way, nice picture....not even a pitchfork in sight.
And the need to Tweet every 5 minutes, or take a "selfie" of every imaginable act borders on invasive.
Since when does a presidential candidate need to be a "BFF"??
Since when do you have to be meme to get people's attention??
Social media doesn't make one more likeable -- It makes one a target.
And somehow it manages to bring out the worst in people.
But if its going to keep this country from falling into the raptor-like grip of a certain racist and invective spewing Republican candidate, I'm all for it.
By the way, nice picture....not even a pitchfork in sight.
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Trump and his people seem to think that social media is the best thing since sliced bread. But his main audience is people who want to be amused, and who have no deeper interest in anything at all, especially if it takes work.
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@morrison
What do you expect from Donald Trump??-- He hasn't the mental capacity to stay on point much longer tan a tweet.
What do you expect from Donald Trump??-- He hasn't the mental capacity to stay on point much longer tan a tweet.
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The last thing that the NYT needs is another liberal Opinion columnist like Ms. Roller.
The lack of conservative and even moderate NYT Opinion columnists is shocking.
Liberal thought used to encourage the exchange of differing views but now shuns them.
The result is repetitive mind numbing Opinions which are so similar,they could be cloned.
Differing opinions would be thought provoking
The lack of conservative and even moderate NYT Opinion columnists is shocking.
Liberal thought used to encourage the exchange of differing views but now shuns them.
The result is repetitive mind numbing Opinions which are so similar,they could be cloned.
Differing opinions would be thought provoking
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Not going to happen. The Times rejected giving voice to anything but the Democrat, liberal and progressive viewpoints on its Opinion page when William Safire retired.
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When differing opinions include denial of science, religious dogma replacing constitutional law, and the casual racism dribbling from her opponents, no legitimate reporter of any kind should countenance those opinions, except to reveal them as a warning to all who are in line to be harmed by them.
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It's just that those opinion columnists who do express differences, are quickly shouted down by the liberal readers.
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well... if this works out, I may open a FB account. I'll wait and see, thanks.
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Dear Hillary, please keep in mind
Encountering Trump means you’ll find
What’s useless for Scrabble,
An outcry that’s babble
From a fist-raising rabble
That never strays far from behind.
The reason is quite simply this:
Trump offers them shares in his bliss;
It’s not meant for snobs
Since he’s promising mobs
Big bucks for new jobs
Which they think they’d be crazy to miss;
Dear Hillery, keep widening your scope
In the manner of Francis the Pope
Where you’ll find no slippery slope.
Be thoughtful and wise,
Choose depth before size,
In an unbounded word, give us hope.
Encountering Trump means you’ll find
What’s useless for Scrabble,
An outcry that’s babble
From a fist-raising rabble
That never strays far from behind.
The reason is quite simply this:
Trump offers them shares in his bliss;
It’s not meant for snobs
Since he’s promising mobs
Big bucks for new jobs
Which they think they’d be crazy to miss;
Dear Hillery, keep widening your scope
In the manner of Francis the Pope
Where you’ll find no slippery slope.
Be thoughtful and wise,
Choose depth before size,
In an unbounded word, give us hope.
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The old line is that one "campaigns in poetry, but governs in prose." Hillary Clinton campaigns in prose. And that's fine with me.
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This article nicely sums it up. 4 minutes on land mines vs. Headlines about emails. "BTW, what did DJT just tweet? You gotta be kidding....check it out on YouTube/Twitter/Facebook..." Click-bait for a distracted populace is a far more effective election strategy. Hopefully, our democratic republic will balance out the click-bait swayed voters.
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“That’s the authentic Hillary,” Mr. Goff said. “The authentic Hillary knows about land mines in Laos.”
A Trump presidency is an anathema for me, yet...
What would ease my worries would be if she came out and explained her fine works in Honduras. An renouncement of her red-baiting would also be welcome.
This isn't about packaging. She complains of Republican generated negative points. Yet, her failure to keep a firewall between her work as Secretary of State and her family's foundation is simply inexcusable.
Her rationalization for passing all her official emails through her private server: "Colin made me do it", is totally devoid of gravitas.
Both instances were easily avoidable and certainly made her detractors' work all the easier.
The sad point is that this couple are prime subject matter for an Elmer Gantry redux. They just cannot restrain their self-serving ways.
A Trump presidency is an anathema for me, yet...
What would ease my worries would be if she came out and explained her fine works in Honduras. An renouncement of her red-baiting would also be welcome.
This isn't about packaging. She complains of Republican generated negative points. Yet, her failure to keep a firewall between her work as Secretary of State and her family's foundation is simply inexcusable.
Her rationalization for passing all her official emails through her private server: "Colin made me do it", is totally devoid of gravitas.
Both instances were easily avoidable and certainly made her detractors' work all the easier.
The sad point is that this couple are prime subject matter for an Elmer Gantry redux. They just cannot restrain their self-serving ways.
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Like everything about Hillary, her online and FB presence is not genuine. While Trump writes and posts his own posts -- like them or hate them -- Hillary has legions of content producers, like this article shows.
People smell a fake...and tend to like people who are authentic.
People smell a fake...and tend to like people who are authentic.
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Unfortunately I had to unfriend her. Once she got my email address Hillary and every friend she knows kept emailing me every day asking for more money.
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So Hillary is an expert on obscure policy. But that knowledge doesn't win votes for the White House--ask Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. We've been reintroduced to her again and again for the past 25 years. No amount of online content can erase the fact that Colin Powell has finally stuck back and told her to stop piggybacking on his reputation by pretending that her private email server was just like his. She knew this wasn't true.
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I suggest that Hillary Clinton use SYMBOLS. Words come and go and they are often forgotten in days. Symbols can be repeated and remembered. Emerson said:
"A good symbol is the best argument, and is a missionary to persuade thousands."
For example, to define Trump, Clinton might make a zero (0) sign with fingers and thumb, to suggest his total lack of government experience. She might try a thumbs down.
To define, herself, Clinton might try a "W" sign, made by bringing "V" signs together with both hands, for woman.
Trump = zero (0)
-------------------------
Clinton = woman (W)
"A good symbol is the best argument, and is a missionary to persuade thousands."
For example, to define Trump, Clinton might make a zero (0) sign with fingers and thumb, to suggest his total lack of government experience. She might try a thumbs down.
To define, herself, Clinton might try a "W" sign, made by bringing "V" signs together with both hands, for woman.
Trump = zero (0)
-------------------------
Clinton = woman (W)
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Oh brother!! Are we all in kindergarten???
What's the symbol for "this woman should be in prison"?
What's the symbol for "this woman is a cold, calculating liar"?
What's the symbol for "this woman should be in prison"?
What's the symbol for "this woman is a cold, calculating liar"?
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People say Hillary is inauthentic, calculating, etc. because she doesn't look like she wants to be your friend, she doesn't have a great laugh, and she's carefully mapped out every single one of her actions since losing in 2008 in order to be president in 2016.
What bothers me and I'm sure many others is that she doesn't just own it. I don't want to be friends with the president. I don't want the president to have a great laugh or a warm smile or perfect hair. Be awkward, Hillary. Be boring, be smart. Just be yourself.
What bothers me and I'm sure many others is that she doesn't just own it. I don't want to be friends with the president. I don't want the president to have a great laugh or a warm smile or perfect hair. Be awkward, Hillary. Be boring, be smart. Just be yourself.
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But "being herself" means: lying, cheating, stealing and, perhaps, even killing.
She's not "awkward"... it's just another part of the "act".
The "real" HC is cold and very calculated. Evil to the bone.
Sanders was the way out of our last 16 years of hate and fighting with one another and she cheated us and stole that from us as well.
She's not "awkward"... it's just another part of the "act".
The "real" HC is cold and very calculated. Evil to the bone.
Sanders was the way out of our last 16 years of hate and fighting with one another and she cheated us and stole that from us as well.
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Fake social media from phony candidate.
Why would anyone read "authentic" "personal" posts written by paid ghostwriters?
Why would anyone read "authentic" "personal" posts written by paid ghostwriters?
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Hillary Clinton makes me ill. Donald Trump makes me ill. The New York Times makes me ill.
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One key to authenticity is that people must get the impression that your words/actions are taken without political agenda. If that fails, it's all for nothing. For instance "Pokémon Go-to-the Polls" has all the authenticity of infomercial "testimonials." There IS a place for Clinton online, but only as herself. If she tries to be someone "cooler", her "friend request" is just one more bot.
When it comes to politicians, I think there's this impression that substantive differences can be bridged by simply mimicking speech patterns, making pop culture references or "borrowing" popularity from celebrities. This false impression goes hand in hand with the fact that many older people do not really understand the means by which younger voters communicate. In fact, some of them essentially believe that all the texting, posting, etc. cannot possibly be as meaningful as the letters or phone calls they so cherish. I'm not saying that the internet doesn't have tons of garbage, but there is still meaning in online forums. If that sounds hard to believe, just consider the difficulties politicians have in faking their way into those same forums. If it was truly just nonsense (and nothing more), it would be easy. Unfortunately for the Clinton campaign and many other campaigns, trying to simply mimic a conversation they don't really understand can easily come off as disingenuous or even mocking (just imagine a lifetime civilian trying to use military jargon at an officers club).
When it comes to politicians, I think there's this impression that substantive differences can be bridged by simply mimicking speech patterns, making pop culture references or "borrowing" popularity from celebrities. This false impression goes hand in hand with the fact that many older people do not really understand the means by which younger voters communicate. In fact, some of them essentially believe that all the texting, posting, etc. cannot possibly be as meaningful as the letters or phone calls they so cherish. I'm not saying that the internet doesn't have tons of garbage, but there is still meaning in online forums. If that sounds hard to believe, just consider the difficulties politicians have in faking their way into those same forums. If it was truly just nonsense (and nothing more), it would be easy. Unfortunately for the Clinton campaign and many other campaigns, trying to simply mimic a conversation they don't really understand can easily come off as disingenuous or even mocking (just imagine a lifetime civilian trying to use military jargon at an officers club).
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Well spoken. Digital media 101: trying to manipulate the ground swell for transparent gain will result in failure. The harder you try, the harder you fail. With nothing but a personal brand to sell, Clinton is better off focusing on overlapping awareness rather than specific vote conversion. The smartest thing Clinton has accomplished so far this election is speaking as little as possible. I doubt composed social media posts are going to help the cause.
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It's ALL political. It is no deeper than that. If you think it would even TRULY be "her", you are a five year-old who thinks the Santa in Macy's is "real".
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@Frank--I'd like to reply to your comment on its face. To start with, I KNOW the mall Santa's aren't real because obviously the REAL Santa needs representatives to do all the greeting while he handles the enormous job of distributing toys! Still, I'm not comfortable with Santa moving his operations out of the country (smells like a tax dodge to me). Also, his exploitation of the indigenous peoples of the North Pole ("elves" is a highly offensive term, I think) is shameful. Lastly, if Santa were to drop his resistance to releasing his personal and corporate tax returns, I think we'd find some pretty shocking accounting going on up north.
Guess I'm not as naïve as you thought, huh?
Guess I'm not as naïve as you thought, huh?
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Her actions speak louder than words.
Her choice for vp. Her hiring of Debbie Schultz Wasserman. The rest.
What she's telling me and all the rest of the Sanders supporters is:
"LUMP IT...
YOU GOT NO CHOICE."
(everything else is just yadas)
She's making another mistake.
And she wonders why so few people like her even when they want to.
And we wonder why she can't ever face the truths.
I have a hunch that she's going to regret getting what she wants so bad.
... that she's going to pay for it -- maybe even as much as Nixon.
(She keeps reminding me of him.)
No matter what, the next four years do not look good.
Her choice for vp. Her hiring of Debbie Schultz Wasserman. The rest.
What she's telling me and all the rest of the Sanders supporters is:
"LUMP IT...
YOU GOT NO CHOICE."
(everything else is just yadas)
She's making another mistake.
And she wonders why so few people like her even when they want to.
And we wonder why she can't ever face the truths.
I have a hunch that she's going to regret getting what she wants so bad.
... that she's going to pay for it -- maybe even as much as Nixon.
(She keeps reminding me of him.)
No matter what, the next four years do not look good.
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frankly 32, I agree with your comments. But I will still vote for her for the same reason I would prefer having single pneumonia than double pneumonia.
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This everlasting teeth-gnashing hatred of Sanders supporters for Hillary Clinton, always so much more present and part of their psyches than their distaste and fear of Donald Trump, is what finally drove me to switch my vote to Clinton in the primary.
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You underestimate the intelligence of many American voters. I am not interested in someone who knows how to be "relatable" online. Nor am I looking for a new best friend. But someone with "impressive intellect and diplomatic experience?" Now that appeals to me! #ImWithHer
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Hi, Emma. I will be 70 this year. In some ways I could be described as serious and studious. I still remember the advent of transistor radios, pocket calculators and my first awareness of e-mail by way of my daughter and a neighbor's account. I had a job in IT at a time when we sometimes key-punched our own 80-column cards to put in a software change and maybe walked them down to the computer room (no clearance required) which had an operating center with no CRT at the time and 2 banks of 8 huge tape drives on either side.
Fast forward to the present. I have a ninth-grade grandson who codes for fun, and a son-in-law with a computer science degree from MIT. We all use and respond to media in our own ways.
You should be proud of having your job at the NYT. I would be proud of you if you were my daughter. It is what it is. "Really important" is what Mrs. Clinton's failure to conform to your standards is not.
Fast forward to the present. I have a ninth-grade grandson who codes for fun, and a son-in-law with a computer science degree from MIT. We all use and respond to media in our own ways.
You should be proud of having your job at the NYT. I would be proud of you if you were my daughter. It is what it is. "Really important" is what Mrs. Clinton's failure to conform to your standards is not.
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Dear SG,
I am 80 and I could've written the same piece that you did.
My work background is keypunch/replaced by computer assisted data entry. Fortunately I was able to retire before it got more complicated than that.
I've learned to make my way around a PC, but am not into FB, nor do I Tweet. I've gone to look a few times .. but don't really want to get my info 'out there' like that. And those online ads that ask you to "Like" them .. are they really serious?
My point? Well, a lot of us already know who Hillary is .. as well as what she stands for .. and the many people she has already helped. We are just waiting for the madness to 'die down' and in November, we will quietly cast our ballots for her.
We don't make a lot of noise. We don't join political parties. And many of us do not have extra funds to donate to the person of our choice. But we do vote!
There should be someplace where we can register those facts, because I don't think that Hillary's people (or the press, or the opposing party) know that we are out there .. and waiting to vote for her.
I am 80 and I could've written the same piece that you did.
My work background is keypunch/replaced by computer assisted data entry. Fortunately I was able to retire before it got more complicated than that.
I've learned to make my way around a PC, but am not into FB, nor do I Tweet. I've gone to look a few times .. but don't really want to get my info 'out there' like that. And those online ads that ask you to "Like" them .. are they really serious?
My point? Well, a lot of us already know who Hillary is .. as well as what she stands for .. and the many people she has already helped. We are just waiting for the madness to 'die down' and in November, we will quietly cast our ballots for her.
We don't make a lot of noise. We don't join political parties. And many of us do not have extra funds to donate to the person of our choice. But we do vote!
There should be someplace where we can register those facts, because I don't think that Hillary's people (or the press, or the opposing party) know that we are out there .. and waiting to vote for her.
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That link to her unprepared, thoughtful, reasoned, measured response is the best reason to vote for Hillary.
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Give me a break!! A FB account and her sending me a "friend request" is NOT going to erase my knowledge of her YEARS of crime and lawbreaking and my better judgement.
If you want a socialist without baggage... vote for Sanders!!
If you want a female president who is CLEAN and HONEST, vote for Stein!!
If you want a socialist without baggage... vote for Sanders!!
If you want a female president who is CLEAN and HONEST, vote for Stein!!
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The day I consider anyone my friend, and politicians in particular, is the day they accept an invitation to come over to my house for a BBQ, cast of supporting characters not included. Just their families and mine.
(OK, for Clinton I'll have to accept the Secret Service, can't get rid of them.)
(OK, for Clinton I'll have to accept the Secret Service, can't get rid of them.)
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Hillary is beginning to look a lot like Bernie. No, not Sanders. "Weekend at Bernie's" Bernie.
People are beginning to ask, "What is this propped-up moribund loser, this rouged-and-botoxed villain, this soulless, angry, arrogant scold, doing in the public arena, anyway?" Her bizarre behavior & patent unfitness are beginning to trouble fans. Falls, coughing, involuntary moves & vacant looks, forgetting script mid-sentence, reading behavior cues.
And her Kinsley gaffes—promising coal country she'll shut down coal industry, promising middle class she'll raise middle-class taxes…
Then there's the mysterious handler always at her side, reassuring her when she seems confused & frozen, armed w/ "a flashlight" that looks exactly like an auto-injector syringe. (An always-present "flashlight" for what purpose, pray tell?)
W/ all the hoopla surrounding the KY derby, no one seemed to notice—Hillary played the gender card…on herself.
Still trying to mitigate damages from her Kinsley coal-country gaffe, Clinton, who famously rode to notoriety on the backs of her predatory husband & the women they abused, told KY voters she was—if you'll pardon the mixed metaphor—taking her husband's coattails out of mothballs: Bill would be de facto prez, "in charge of revitalizing economy, because, you know, he knows how to do it," especially "in places like coal country & inner cities”
In the 90s, "2 for price of 1" was her payback. Today it's a necessary optic to overcome her manifest unfitness.
People are beginning to ask, "What is this propped-up moribund loser, this rouged-and-botoxed villain, this soulless, angry, arrogant scold, doing in the public arena, anyway?" Her bizarre behavior & patent unfitness are beginning to trouble fans. Falls, coughing, involuntary moves & vacant looks, forgetting script mid-sentence, reading behavior cues.
And her Kinsley gaffes—promising coal country she'll shut down coal industry, promising middle class she'll raise middle-class taxes…
Then there's the mysterious handler always at her side, reassuring her when she seems confused & frozen, armed w/ "a flashlight" that looks exactly like an auto-injector syringe. (An always-present "flashlight" for what purpose, pray tell?)
W/ all the hoopla surrounding the KY derby, no one seemed to notice—Hillary played the gender card…on herself.
Still trying to mitigate damages from her Kinsley coal-country gaffe, Clinton, who famously rode to notoriety on the backs of her predatory husband & the women they abused, told KY voters she was—if you'll pardon the mixed metaphor—taking her husband's coattails out of mothballs: Bill would be de facto prez, "in charge of revitalizing economy, because, you know, he knows how to do it," especially "in places like coal country & inner cities”
In the 90s, "2 for price of 1" was her payback. Today it's a necessary optic to overcome her manifest unfitness.
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Is Clinton intending to post top secret correspondence on FB instead of her personal email account? It is impossible to believe that there is anything authentic about her use of social media.
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Any United States citizen who is old enough to vote should have realized by now, after 71/2 years, that our freedom's. prosperity and safety are in serious jeopardy while most of the Obama administration and it's appointees are still "at large".
The evidence in economic, social and cultural destruction and extreme self service, especially for the minorities and middle class, have reached such heights that Putin, the Chinese and every petty tyrant are green with envy. Vote to retain some semblance of a democratic republic.
The evidence in economic, social and cultural destruction and extreme self service, especially for the minorities and middle class, have reached such heights that Putin, the Chinese and every petty tyrant are green with envy. Vote to retain some semblance of a democratic republic.
There is this mistaken notion that social media is largely for the young and hip. It is not, but whenever parents and grandparents invade popular social media sites such as Facebook, the kids begin to flee. They are more into Instagram and Snapchat now, so Hillary’s campaign might want to consider infiltrating that space, if it hasn’t already. Also, Trump’s Twitter followers do not translate to Trump supporters – many probably follow him just to keep up with his rants. It will be interesting to see how many stop following Trump after the election, especially if he loses?
Finally you can’t really plan to go “viral” on social media, it just happens! So if there is any advice for Hillary’s campaign, it is that you just have to let another “Hillary Clinton wearing sunglasses and stoically checking her BlackBerry” moment to happen, you can’t fake it.
Finally you can’t really plan to go “viral” on social media, it just happens! So if there is any advice for Hillary’s campaign, it is that you just have to let another “Hillary Clinton wearing sunglasses and stoically checking her BlackBerry” moment to happen, you can’t fake it.
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"... as consumers of internet content, searching for some morsel of levity to fill the vacuum of our workday, we live for that kind of drama."
What she said.
What she said.
The young women alongside Secretary Clinton in the photo are striking: poised, calm, self-assured, diverse.
Compare them to those who follow Don: screeching, sneering, only too happy to be mean-spirited and nasty, too simple-minded to be bothered with the fact that Don thinks absolutely nothing of them.
I will take the first group to represent our future, no question.
Compare them to those who follow Don: screeching, sneering, only too happy to be mean-spirited and nasty, too simple-minded to be bothered with the fact that Don thinks absolutely nothing of them.
I will take the first group to represent our future, no question.
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As I see Trump trolls are here again.
Yes I am with Hillary Clinton I see her in my Facebook where I am only with personal friends and relatives.
Yes I am with Hillary Clinton I see her in my Facebook where I am only with personal friends and relatives.
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Criticizing Hillary Clinton does not make someone a "Trump Troll". Try thinking outside of the Right Left dichotomy.
"... as consumers of internet content, searching for some morsel of levity to fill the vacuum of our workday, we live for that kind of drama."
What a stunning statement. It speaks volumes about why journalists spend so much time wallowing in DT's nauseating behavior and ignorance. Entertainment. It's fun. It's...life? What he believes and what he says don't matter as long as they serve to entertain you while you are being paid to do empty work.
What a stunning statement. It speaks volumes about why journalists spend so much time wallowing in DT's nauseating behavior and ignorance. Entertainment. It's fun. It's...life? What he believes and what he says don't matter as long as they serve to entertain you while you are being paid to do empty work.
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She is the hardest working, strongest person for the job, and she has spent her life helping people. The Clinton Foundation has saved the lives of countless women and children throughout the world. NYT we need a story on her many accomplishments - fighting for civil rights, CHIP, helping 9/11 first responders get the care they deserved. C'mon you've been the highly successful NYT for centuries! We trust you and I trust Her.
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Hillary is merely demonstrating what a $2.5 billion campaign can buy.
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As consumers of internet content, searching for some morsel of levity to fill the vacuum of our workday, we live for that kind of drama.
-So accurate
-So accurate
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with friends like her (Hillary) who need enamies
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herbie, friendships change overnight and sometimes enemies become best of friends. Change happens. Impermanence happens.
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Yawn - here we go again, the daily rah-rah for Hillary. Today we are to pretend that we just don't understand her and how nice she really is, so yet another effort must be made to "humanize her".
Please, NYT, spare us. From the huge banner ad splashed across the top of the electronic front page almost every day to article after article championing her election, we get it - you adore her and hate Trump. Okay.
But what you don't see is that "rubes" out there DO get her, thus her her poor ratings in terms of honesty and trustworthiness, along with her general demeanor and attitude. She's not a "nice" lady, the "as a grandmother" schtick notwithstanding.
Truth be told, her personality per se shouldn't matter much and too many Americans seem to think it's important to choose a president by the "who would you rather have a beer with" standard. Pretty pathetic. So trying to make her "nice" is really trivial and distracts from the more important issue of her veracity and trustworthiness - yet that is the area you studiously avoiding really tackling head on. More stories on the Foundation and its shenanigans and what the extremely high potential for scandal and corruption in a Hillary administration would mean (along with how to rein in her husband) is what we should be discussing, not who her campaign pretends she friends on Facebook.
Were the NYT serious about his journalistic history it would be more serious in addressing these issues of importance.
Please, NYT, spare us. From the huge banner ad splashed across the top of the electronic front page almost every day to article after article championing her election, we get it - you adore her and hate Trump. Okay.
But what you don't see is that "rubes" out there DO get her, thus her her poor ratings in terms of honesty and trustworthiness, along with her general demeanor and attitude. She's not a "nice" lady, the "as a grandmother" schtick notwithstanding.
Truth be told, her personality per se shouldn't matter much and too many Americans seem to think it's important to choose a president by the "who would you rather have a beer with" standard. Pretty pathetic. So trying to make her "nice" is really trivial and distracts from the more important issue of her veracity and trustworthiness - yet that is the area you studiously avoiding really tackling head on. More stories on the Foundation and its shenanigans and what the extremely high potential for scandal and corruption in a Hillary administration would mean (along with how to rein in her husband) is what we should be discussing, not who her campaign pretends she friends on Facebook.
Were the NYT serious about his journalistic history it would be more serious in addressing these issues of importance.
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Secretary Clinton wants to be my friend. She also wants to be my President. She finds it difficult because "she is not at her best or most authentic self when she’s put in front of a large crowd of people". The Secretary's supporters seem to consistently be in the position of explaining that she really is a nice person - she just doesn't act like one. Personally, as a friend and a potential constituent I would find her more authentic if she did not have so much trouble being forthcoming about her use of a private email server for secret and classified government communication - as illustrated by a timeline published in the Times today -, about her communications from and to large donors to her family foundation and about her well compensated speeches to special interest groups on Wall Street. On second thought, she doesn't have to be my friend, just an authentic candidate for President - no matter who she is running against.
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Hillary's advisers are behind the times. Young people are leaving facebook and its lik in droves. Social media is being recognized as a boring intrusion in their lives, filled with egotists with nothing better to do. Does Hillary really want to part of that?
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media that is well known ?
Nerve-jangling grammar so early in the morning.
This Hillary Facebook site article seems intended to draw negative comments. Since she's not personally writing it, how could it not? Except for a few hurrahs from Democratic Party cheerleaders.
Nerve-jangling grammar so early in the morning.
This Hillary Facebook site article seems intended to draw negative comments. Since she's not personally writing it, how could it not? Except for a few hurrahs from Democratic Party cheerleaders.
I haven't been on Facebook for several years, ever since I learned it is partially owned by the Russian government. But if I were on it now, I'd definitely NOT be a "Friend" of Hillary Clinton. She is my "enemy". And any "friends" of hers, are also my "enemies".
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Again: misogyny. There's always an undercurrent of "she's too smart" in people's criticism of her, on and offline. If Bernie were Bernadette, or Donald were Donna, do you think they would have had a chance in anything to get as far as they did in this election season? She is caught in the gender box: if she sounds too smart, people say she's dull. If she tries to be more playful, people say she's shallow. In my book, she's a superhero for navigating these roiling waters. #Imwithher.
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The farther into this election we go, the worse it gets. I wish I could go to sleep and have it over. I started voting for Bernie in the NY Primary; then accepting Hillary as the nominee, and for the past few months, arguing with just about everyone that she would be a fine President and we can vote FOR her rather than AGAIST Trump. Now I don't know and this doesn't help.
The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that Trump/Pence would significantly harm our country - I don't know which would actually run the country, or would it be Ivanka. I didn't vote for Romney but recognized he was an honorable man. How did we get to this?
The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that Trump/Pence would significantly harm our country - I don't know which would actually run the country, or would it be Ivanka. I didn't vote for Romney but recognized he was an honorable man. How did we get to this?
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Here's the problem: Hillary on facebook, twitter, instagram, whatever, is still Hillary.
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Fantastic. Another coded way for journalists to bring up the "Hillary isn't likeable" topic they all love so very dearly. Enough with this sexist dog whistling. I beg you.
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is this article a satire?
The only people Hillary want to TRULY connect with are those who can make contributions and further her interests. The article ignores the fact she is very self-entitled and self centered. When governor's wife in AK she demanded the governor's mansion have a pool installed for her daughter. This is one of the nation's poorest states. WHile head of the State Dept and Clinton FOundation she did not even set up child care, never mind equalizing wages between male and female staff members. WHile on the Board of Walmart she voted against raising associate's wages.
And this is a person who wants to be your "Facebook" friend?
The only people Hillary want to TRULY connect with are those who can make contributions and further her interests. The article ignores the fact she is very self-entitled and self centered. When governor's wife in AK she demanded the governor's mansion have a pool installed for her daughter. This is one of the nation's poorest states. WHile head of the State Dept and Clinton FOundation she did not even set up child care, never mind equalizing wages between male and female staff members. WHile on the Board of Walmart she voted against raising associate's wages.
And this is a person who wants to be your "Facebook" friend?
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I don't want a Facebook Friend as President. I want someone who won't throw away more American lives and billions in the Middle East. Someone who will bring the oligarchs to heel and promote the American middle class. Some one who will support and defend the Constitution, not the Wal-Mart Waltons.
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The question is not"how can someone like that sound authentic on line?"Her issue is that she doesn't sound authentic on or off line.Having social media "experts"try to help her connect with young voters on line in viewed as a calculating and cynical move and simply magnifies the fundamental issue voters have with her.
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First of all, in what way is this piece worthy or even appropriate for the Opinion section of The Times?
Secondly, what are we to make of the admission by Clinton advisers that she is not capable of authenticity when in front of a large crowd? She wants to be the most powerful person, with the biggest microphone, on the planet and talking to crowds makes her so nervous that she is incapable of honesty?
I suppose that clarifies why she has not released the transcripts of her speeches to Goldman and company. Those speeches were scripted and delivered to relatively small crowds. Clinton was, presumably, more herself and the feelings expressed were more honest. She is afraid to let voters see her true self.
Secondly, what are we to make of the admission by Clinton advisers that she is not capable of authenticity when in front of a large crowd? She wants to be the most powerful person, with the biggest microphone, on the planet and talking to crowds makes her so nervous that she is incapable of honesty?
I suppose that clarifies why she has not released the transcripts of her speeches to Goldman and company. Those speeches were scripted and delivered to relatively small crowds. Clinton was, presumably, more herself and the feelings expressed were more honest. She is afraid to let voters see her true self.
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Exactly why would I want to add a lying, treasonous, federal law violating pile of dung to my Facebook page? Better question; who on earth would believe anything she posted about given her track record about lying about everything under the sun whether it was necessary or not to continue her ill conceived notion of being the President? Seems like maybe she's not the only liar coming out of the closet eh? Media's been lying on her behalf trying to run cover for her lies... really gets hard to keep all that sh%t straight eh?
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What a lovely photo with all those young women smiling with our next President and the first woman to be elected in our 240 year HIStory. What a joy it was to watch the Democratic convention and see women and men of all ages there to support Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton and other socially responsible politicians. What a wonderful day it will be when
SHE is elected and can help lead us back to true democracy.
That is a joy one cannot tweet.
SHE is elected and can help lead us back to true democracy.
That is a joy one cannot tweet.
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what about our sons?
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Is this the fiction section of the paper? A woman who has tried to lie her way outbid every corners into which she has painted herself is going to lead us back to true democracy? A supporter(regardless of what she now says) of the secretly negotiated TPP is going to lead us back to true democracy?
If Hillary is crowned president, it will be a win for multinational corporations and billionaires. Unincorporated humans will be out in the cold!
If Hillary is crowned president, it will be a win for multinational corporations and billionaires. Unincorporated humans will be out in the cold!
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Notice the diversity. I miss that when i leave the Bay area.
“We’re competing with your best friend, your spouse, your mom, last night’s Olympics clips.”
She seeks to be in their company, thought of like them, not to "compete" with them.
It is actually quite clever, UNLESS she offends by coming across as "calculating and untrustworthy."
It is a sensitive setting, in which it is quite possible to make a mistake. It happens that one can get unfriended and make enemies. It is actually a risky move, because it has the potential to be done wrong, and do real damage.
She seeks to be in their company, thought of like them, not to "compete" with them.
It is actually quite clever, UNLESS she offends by coming across as "calculating and untrustworthy."
It is a sensitive setting, in which it is quite possible to make a mistake. It happens that one can get unfriended and make enemies. It is actually a risky move, because it has the potential to be done wrong, and do real damage.
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"How can someone like that sound like a real person online?"
"Mrs. Clinton’s legion of online content producers have been hard at work, putting together video clips and writing listicles to expand the former first lady and secretary of state’s bona fides."
"The campaign has made more than a few missteps while trying to find the right tone for Mrs. Clinton’s online persona."
These people really don't get it do they? How about instead of being hard at work to "find the right tone for Mrs. Clinton's online persona", with those "listicles" and other such nonsense they must think the kids like, what they need to do is take their cues from the Sanders campaign's online operations. Instead of thinking strategically, or even being all that organized about it, they just had supporters making meme photos that were just a photo of Sanders speaking to a crowd with a particularly memorable quote. Or infographics explaining how Sanders' proposals would help ordinary people. Or photos illustrating Sanders' principles. Their videos were simply videos of Sanders speaking to his supporters, or walking down the street.
The Clinton campaign would do a lot better if they simply let Mrs Clinton's positive qualities (e.g. her sharp policy-wonk instincts) shine forward rather than flailing around trying to create the right fake personality.
"Mrs. Clinton’s legion of online content producers have been hard at work, putting together video clips and writing listicles to expand the former first lady and secretary of state’s bona fides."
"The campaign has made more than a few missteps while trying to find the right tone for Mrs. Clinton’s online persona."
These people really don't get it do they? How about instead of being hard at work to "find the right tone for Mrs. Clinton's online persona", with those "listicles" and other such nonsense they must think the kids like, what they need to do is take their cues from the Sanders campaign's online operations. Instead of thinking strategically, or even being all that organized about it, they just had supporters making meme photos that were just a photo of Sanders speaking to a crowd with a particularly memorable quote. Or infographics explaining how Sanders' proposals would help ordinary people. Or photos illustrating Sanders' principles. Their videos were simply videos of Sanders speaking to his supporters, or walking down the street.
The Clinton campaign would do a lot better if they simply let Mrs Clinton's positive qualities (e.g. her sharp policy-wonk instincts) shine forward rather than flailing around trying to create the right fake personality.
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"Flailing around trying to create the right fake personality" is exactly the sort of "calculating and untrustworthy" move that could turn this into a problem instead of a clever way to help.
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"sharp policy-(work, (I assume), instincts????? Yes, the ridiculous concept of trying to make Hillary be relatable to young social network types, is, well, ridiculous! But relying on her sharp policy-work instincts is generous on your part.
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You are mistaken if you think Sanders' team wasn't as strategic in their thinking. It is only with Clinton that it is made a negative. This is the double-standard.
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The American public knows that over half of her FB and twitter followers are bought?! Right?!
Just like the State Dept. bought "likes" while she was running it.
"The State Dept., which has more than 40,000 likes and was recently most popular in Cairo, said it would stop buying FB fans after it's inspector general criticized the agency for spending $630,000 to boost it's numbers."
"Click Farms" are common and often used by politicians and others to boost their profile.
Easy Google search folks. Be skeptical of the propaganda.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2010037/hillary-clinton-buying-twitter-follower...
http://www.vocativ.com/usa/us-politics/hillary-has-more-facebook-fans-in...
Just like the State Dept. bought "likes" while she was running it.
"The State Dept., which has more than 40,000 likes and was recently most popular in Cairo, said it would stop buying FB fans after it's inspector general criticized the agency for spending $630,000 to boost it's numbers."
"Click Farms" are common and often used by politicians and others to boost their profile.
Easy Google search folks. Be skeptical of the propaganda.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2010037/hillary-clinton-buying-twitter-follower...
http://www.vocativ.com/usa/us-politics/hillary-has-more-facebook-fans-in...
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Most adjectives of 'supercilious' could easily substitute for how many, many, if not most, 'social networking Millennials' come across:
Condesending, smug, scornful, haughty, conceited, disdainful, pompous, imperios, high and mighty, stuck up, and snotty.
And a Social Class unto their own when it comes to making life miserable for those they single out and mock. Oh, I forgot to mention one more adjective, the most telling one, 'grossly immature.'
Condesending, smug, scornful, haughty, conceited, disdainful, pompous, imperios, high and mighty, stuck up, and snotty.
And a Social Class unto their own when it comes to making life miserable for those they single out and mock. Oh, I forgot to mention one more adjective, the most telling one, 'grossly immature.'
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Well, that's certainly going to get them onboard with Clinton! Well done!
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Since I refuse to Facebook or Twitter or social media I do not have to worry about Hillary wanting to be my friend. But if I did I would not want to be friends with this ancient hoary greedy cowardly lying untrustworthy Triassic era politician. Hillary has the charm of a Brown Recluse Spider. Nothing nor any one can humanize Hillary. I am not and never will be with her. Hillary's image is tailor made for the $3 bill.
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Angry much? Why don't you tell everyone how you really feel?
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She doesn't get it.
The vast majority of Americans have indicated that we don't trust her. She has lied and lied and is not even very good at it.
She destroyed an honest man, Sanders, with her friends at the DNC.
And the only reason she is doing well in the polls is that she is running against Trump, arguably the most inept person to run for president.
Almost 50% of us are independents; no party affiliation.
And many of us are now rallying around the two most sane people in the race, Gov Gary Johnson ( NM) and Gov Wm. Weld ( Mass), two term liberal Republican governors in blue states.
When Anderson Cooper at the CNN Libertarian Town Hall expressed amazement that Gov Johnson had begun to answer a question by saying he wasn't sure, saying, I never heard a politician say that, Gary said, Well, if you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said.
They are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Today they are up to 11% in the polls the debate commission will use to determine whether to admit them. 15% is the magic number and they will achieve that within the next three weeks as required.
Once the 70% of Americans who say they never heard of them see them aside Clinton and Trump, their support will surge even more than now.
A wasted vote is voting for someone you don't believe in.
johnsonweld.com
The vast majority of Americans have indicated that we don't trust her. She has lied and lied and is not even very good at it.
She destroyed an honest man, Sanders, with her friends at the DNC.
And the only reason she is doing well in the polls is that she is running against Trump, arguably the most inept person to run for president.
Almost 50% of us are independents; no party affiliation.
And many of us are now rallying around the two most sane people in the race, Gov Gary Johnson ( NM) and Gov Wm. Weld ( Mass), two term liberal Republican governors in blue states.
When Anderson Cooper at the CNN Libertarian Town Hall expressed amazement that Gov Johnson had begun to answer a question by saying he wasn't sure, saying, I never heard a politician say that, Gary said, Well, if you tell the truth you never have to remember what you said.
They are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
Today they are up to 11% in the polls the debate commission will use to determine whether to admit them. 15% is the magic number and they will achieve that within the next three weeks as required.
Once the 70% of Americans who say they never heard of them see them aside Clinton and Trump, their support will surge even more than now.
A wasted vote is voting for someone you don't believe in.
johnsonweld.com
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I'm an Indy and i voted for Johnson in '12. I would have preferred Sanders this time around, but i'm figuring on voting for Johnson / Weld as well. I still have concerns that they don't seem to have addressed the issue of wages and the problem with the importation of labor. Fix it up so it's reciprocal, and i can waltz in and live and work in France and cut myself into their benefit system, and then we can maybe talk.
However, if we're going to have TPP and TTiP and de facto open borders and H1-B expansions under Clinton - and we are, if you don't believe so i have a selection of bridges over the Charles on offer - then i'd rather have it from the guys who are at least looking for something closer to a true free market - where the capitalism isn't crony, no corporate welfare, and you don't have to pay to play. Starving the hungry ghost of the MIC a bit is a very major plus.
However, if we're going to have TPP and TTiP and de facto open borders and H1-B expansions under Clinton - and we are, if you don't believe so i have a selection of bridges over the Charles on offer - then i'd rather have it from the guys who are at least looking for something closer to a true free market - where the capitalism isn't crony, no corporate welfare, and you don't have to pay to play. Starving the hungry ghost of the MIC a bit is a very major plus.
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Oh for crying in the rain, where is your authority to speak for "the vast majority of Americans" when who you mean is you, and maybe your intimate circle of friends? Hillary Clinton and the DNC hardly destroyed Bernie Sanders - they let him into the Democratic Party to run a rather successful campaign. Get over it.
If you want to rally support for Gary Johnson and Wm. Weld, do so. If your idea of rallying support is tearing down Hillary Clinton, you aren't giving me any reason to trust your instincts. Vote your conscience - you won't be voting mine.
If you want to rally support for Gary Johnson and Wm. Weld, do so. If your idea of rallying support is tearing down Hillary Clinton, you aren't giving me any reason to trust your instincts. Vote your conscience - you won't be voting mine.
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Her campaign is a charade. Facebook is another element.
Amer e kins feel
All men are e quill
Leaders come for word
They have clear heads
be gin in log ca bins
Rite, there own speech is
May ka lotta spense in
Don't raise their voice is.
The Book ov Lev It A Kiss copyright 1971
Hillary Rodham Clintstone is not our leader.
http://michaelslevinson.com
Amer e kins feel
All men are e quill
Leaders come for word
They have clear heads
be gin in log ca bins
Rite, there own speech is
May ka lotta spense in
Don't raise their voice is.
The Book ov Lev It A Kiss copyright 1971
Hillary Rodham Clintstone is not our leader.
http://michaelslevinson.com
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It was later discovered that Hillary was sending emails ordering drone strikes in that meme. How cool and hip is that, right? Well, it's certainly representative of her foreign policy outlook if nothing else. Cold, calculating and calm in the midst of cold-blooded murder.
And really, stop trying to make Hillary "cool." She's not a good public speaker, comes across as inauthentic, and just doesn't have the charisma of most politicans (male or female). She may be president but she's going to be a really boring one which would be fine if her tendencies weren't so hawkish and she wasn't in bed with the banks. But here we are - welcome to boring, fake and destructive America.
And really, stop trying to make Hillary "cool." She's not a good public speaker, comes across as inauthentic, and just doesn't have the charisma of most politicans (male or female). She may be president but she's going to be a really boring one which would be fine if her tendencies weren't so hawkish and she wasn't in bed with the banks. But here we are - welcome to boring, fake and destructive America.
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Since when does the State Department carry out drone strikes?
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"And thus, the website Texts From Hillary was born."
These kids could be out there combating poverty, solving global warming or finding a cure for cancer. Instead, they spend all of their time designing silly websites.
The human race is really doomed.
These kids could be out there combating poverty, solving global warming or finding a cure for cancer. Instead, they spend all of their time designing silly websites.
The human race is really doomed.
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As as old codger, I read with some amusement comment by people my age who wish to assert their denial to accept that we now inhabit the Twenty-First century. People my age love to extol the "good old days", proudly proclaiming their Luddite status. They eschew everything invented after the telephone, and they're not about to change, so there.
Funny how their comments herein are purportedly written on this modern geegaw, a P.C., a device which I'm surprised they own. If they truly abhor all these new-fangled doodads, why don't they write to The Times the old-fashioned way, a hand-written Letter To The Editor?
Because we are old, set in our ways, and can't help regale you youngin's how great things used to be. We love telling you that Hillary, approaching seven decades on this spinning blue marble, will never be "cool" no matter what she does, how she'll never be "hip". No, President Obama has cool and hip locked down for some time to come.
So why do we old folks decry Hillary's attempt to "friend" you? Because we are old and crotchety, our best days are behind us, and these darn kids today just don't know nuttin' 'bout nuttin'.
I'm not going to bore you with my credentials as a grumpy old man as a badge of honor. Hillary does these things because she is a politician. They have to cater to every potential voter's needs. Facebook and all these devices are modern day versions of kissing babies. Let not this silly business take up too much of your time.
DD
Manhattan
Funny how their comments herein are purportedly written on this modern geegaw, a P.C., a device which I'm surprised they own. If they truly abhor all these new-fangled doodads, why don't they write to The Times the old-fashioned way, a hand-written Letter To The Editor?
Because we are old, set in our ways, and can't help regale you youngin's how great things used to be. We love telling you that Hillary, approaching seven decades on this spinning blue marble, will never be "cool" no matter what she does, how she'll never be "hip". No, President Obama has cool and hip locked down for some time to come.
So why do we old folks decry Hillary's attempt to "friend" you? Because we are old and crotchety, our best days are behind us, and these darn kids today just don't know nuttin' 'bout nuttin'.
I'm not going to bore you with my credentials as a grumpy old man as a badge of honor. Hillary does these things because she is a politician. They have to cater to every potential voter's needs. Facebook and all these devices are modern day versions of kissing babies. Let not this silly business take up too much of your time.
DD
Manhattan
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No matter how much people like Teddy Goff, Laura Olin, both former Obama hot-shots, and media pundits (looking at you, Emma Roller) are trying "a cool way to humanize Hillary", the judgement on her will not change much when your credibility is at rock bottom and more damning news are about to come out about your shady dealings.
Good luck with that, when your only hope is to go on social media because you are afraid to face the press in a public setting without prescreening questions. That doesn't speak highly of her "seemingly encyclopedic knowledge of obscure policy" or "her impressive intellect and diplomatic experience".
Good luck with that, when your only hope is to go on social media because you are afraid to face the press in a public setting without prescreening questions. That doesn't speak highly of her "seemingly encyclopedic knowledge of obscure policy" or "her impressive intellect and diplomatic experience".
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"Unfortunately for the Clinton campaign, “Reasoned, Diplomatic Policy Answers From Hillary” just doesn’t have the same ring to it."
And that's absolutely the way to choose the next Leader of the Free World, for their entertainment value.
How on earth did we get so stupid, so fast?
And that's absolutely the way to choose the next Leader of the Free World, for their entertainment value.
How on earth did we get so stupid, so fast?
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"How on earth did we get so stupid, so fast?"
I actually don't think we got that stupid. I mean, for starters, the smart but not particularly entertaining policy wonk is absolutely crushing the sideshow buffoon in the polls.
I actually don't think we got that stupid. I mean, for starters, the smart but not particularly entertaining policy wonk is absolutely crushing the sideshow buffoon in the polls.
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The internet.
No it's not.
Charisma isn't everything when it comes to being president, senator, or any other elected official. How you do the job is what counts. Do you cooperate? Do you listen? Do you give reasoned responses to questions? Can you explain why you changed your mind? Do you have the appropriate bearing when dealing with whatever comes down the pike whether it's good news, bad news, or an absolute disaster? How do you handle failure: graciously or with a snarl? Are you prepared to serve ALL your constituents instead of just the ones who agree with you or elected you or funded you?
Clinton has a tough skin because of how she's been treated in the media. How can she be forthcoming when, as First Lady, her every remark was subjected to an Inquisition like going over? The fact that she's even willing to run for any office is a sign of strength. She's been the breadwinner for her family, a wife, a mother, a First Lady, a senator, and a Secretary of State. She's made mistakes. So have all of us. The difference is that her mistakes are dragged out for public humiliation. Ours aren't. If they were we might do the same thing she's done: develop a hard crust. But there's one thing she hasn't done: given up. I think that's a wonderful thing in any candidate but especially one running for president. We know who and what she is in terms of work. All we know about Trump is that he talks big, files for bankruptcy to exploit the laws, and has the discretion of a three year old.
Clinton has a tough skin because of how she's been treated in the media. How can she be forthcoming when, as First Lady, her every remark was subjected to an Inquisition like going over? The fact that she's even willing to run for any office is a sign of strength. She's been the breadwinner for her family, a wife, a mother, a First Lady, a senator, and a Secretary of State. She's made mistakes. So have all of us. The difference is that her mistakes are dragged out for public humiliation. Ours aren't. If they were we might do the same thing she's done: develop a hard crust. But there's one thing she hasn't done: given up. I think that's a wonderful thing in any candidate but especially one running for president. We know who and what she is in terms of work. All we know about Trump is that he talks big, files for bankruptcy to exploit the laws, and has the discretion of a three year old.
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About the dumbest thing I've read all day... it's early yet, but give me a frickin break.
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Dear hen3ry,
You said it ALL .. and I thank you for that. Your entry should get hundreds of 'recommended.'
You said it ALL .. and I thank you for that. Your entry should get hundreds of 'recommended.'
Memo to Ms. Olin: Hilliary will never ever be hip no matter how much spin you put on it.
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Dra, is that for Doctora or are you just so hip? I'm guessing you're no fan of the Secretary. Guess what? You don't need to be hip to be Prez.
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True. But fortunately, hip is not an important requirement for holding public office.
Late in this column it points out that the authentic Hillary knows about land mines in Laos. That's a lot more important qualification for office than the ability to be witty on Twitter.
Late in this column it points out that the authentic Hillary knows about land mines in Laos. That's a lot more important qualification for office than the ability to be witty on Twitter.
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Who cares how "hip" Hillary Is? Does the president need to be "hip" to be more than qualified to do the job? We are not going to go hang out with her so how "hip" she may or not be is totally irrelevant and ridiculous. Is there anything left for the right wing mob to find about which to criticize her? Meanwhile trump continues to lie and incite hate and violence on an hourly basis,spewing racism and lunacy in his incessant middle-of-the-night tweets. And his crazed followers continue to support and defend his madness and racism. He has unleashed a dangerous, raging cult who apparently share his bigotry and hate-mongering. And Hillary is criticized for not being "hip" and for her laugh and her clothes and her hair and for sitting down for 2 minutes, and for behaving like an adult. And I wouldn't be bragging about never having voted but once. That's just irresponsible and inexcusable.
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I don't do Facebook, I don't friend, I don't text,I don't 'twit'. I also rarely, if ever, use the phone to talk, never to 'selphie'. I don't own a TV, haven't watched a movie since October 2004; no commercial radio, classical iTunes only. no glossy magazines.
"Friends" I find at my local pub.
I'm 71 and have only voted FOR someone ONCE in my life: Obama in '08. All the rest have been votes 'against'.
In January I'll be elligible for full Canadian citizenship.
Good luck with me, Hillaria! This year I'm voting for myself – OUT.
"Friends" I find at my local pub.
I'm 71 and have only voted FOR someone ONCE in my life: Obama in '08. All the rest have been votes 'against'.
In January I'll be elligible for full Canadian citizenship.
Good luck with me, Hillaria! This year I'm voting for myself – OUT.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
@ Laura Erickson
There Is no door shut other than the one to a free and honest election. The exit is fully open and I'm gone. I AM OUT, happily.
"Every wall is a door." ~ RALPH WALDO EMERSON
There Is no door shut other than the one to a free and honest election. The exit is fully open and I'm gone. I AM OUT, happily.
"Every wall is a door." ~ RALPH WALDO EMERSON
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A better idea would be to head over to snapchat and instagram.
1
Throw in Disney World while you're at it.
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Does Clinton even know what she says or does on social media.
The screen of advisers and her decision to have so many is her greatest failing as a campaigner and as a public and political figure.
They gather facts for her, they do her social media, they create her policy positions and speak for her when the media calls.
Perhaps she is calling the shots, but all indications are she takes their advice and doesn't do much decision-making. The buck seems to stop at everyone's desk but her own.
The screen of advisers and her decision to have so many is her greatest failing as a campaigner and as a public and political figure.
They gather facts for her, they do her social media, they create her policy positions and speak for her when the media calls.
Perhaps she is calling the shots, but all indications are she takes their advice and doesn't do much decision-making. The buck seems to stop at everyone's desk but her own.
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Clinton-cum-shades-checking-BlackBerry meme is—to my mind—pure Mafia…which brings me, a bit circuitously I confess, to Martha. Pls let me explain.
Picture this.
It's July 2. HC delivered to FBI on silver platter. Comey poised to stick fork in her; he's sure she's done.
Timing tactics surpassed only by irony—country too busy w/ fetes, fireworks & freedom-from-monarchical-oppression to notice.
Clintons sweat interview. HC—a Martha-Stewart sitting duck—is facing what is known in game theory as Morton's Fork—jail or jail—perjury or self-incrimination.
Now picture this. That's not what went down…
Comey's sworn testimony to Congress based on his FBI probe:
—All HC public statements regarding her emails were lies.—(See Comey responses to Gowdy)
—FBI had “no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI” during her interview (NB: ≠ "she told truth")
The only way both Comey statements can be true is if HC wasn't asked any relevant questions or if HC refused to answer all relevant questions or if HC confessed to her crimes.
NB: When HC is cornered, she typically takes functional 5th—"I don't recall" & multifarious variations—to mitigate Mafia meme.
Purpose of LL-BC tarmac tête-à-tête: Establish means to protect HC from Morton's Fork, i.e., perjury or self-incrimination. They chose functional-5th, no-incriminating-questions, or some combination thereof.
NB:
—Conveniently for Clinton/FBI/DOJ, no recordings of interview exist
—FBI-DOJ credo: “If it isn’t in 302, it doesn’t exist”
Picture this.
It's July 2. HC delivered to FBI on silver platter. Comey poised to stick fork in her; he's sure she's done.
Timing tactics surpassed only by irony—country too busy w/ fetes, fireworks & freedom-from-monarchical-oppression to notice.
Clintons sweat interview. HC—a Martha-Stewart sitting duck—is facing what is known in game theory as Morton's Fork—jail or jail—perjury or self-incrimination.
Now picture this. That's not what went down…
Comey's sworn testimony to Congress based on his FBI probe:
—All HC public statements regarding her emails were lies.—(See Comey responses to Gowdy)
—FBI had “no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI” during her interview (NB: ≠ "she told truth")
The only way both Comey statements can be true is if HC wasn't asked any relevant questions or if HC refused to answer all relevant questions or if HC confessed to her crimes.
NB: When HC is cornered, she typically takes functional 5th—"I don't recall" & multifarious variations—to mitigate Mafia meme.
Purpose of LL-BC tarmac tête-à-tête: Establish means to protect HC from Morton's Fork, i.e., perjury or self-incrimination. They chose functional-5th, no-incriminating-questions, or some combination thereof.
NB:
—Conveniently for Clinton/FBI/DOJ, no recordings of interview exist
—FBI-DOJ credo: “If it isn’t in 302, it doesn’t exist”
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Poor old Comey, a GOP appointee. If there was any way in the world he could have provided proof Hillary should be indicted, he would have done it
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He did provide the proof, Kim. Not the 1st time Clinton skated by running.
Nov 2000, sometime before 1st Tues after 1st Mon:
"Bird of paradise" would have been a brilliant wrong answer to the NY-state-bird question; in one fell swoop it would have flattered the necessary constituency, rendered her cheating marginally believable, & suggested a quick, secure, creative mind; instead she gushed, "It's the bluebird—I know that," unable to fake even one wrong answer in Letterman's phony pop quiz, a nostalgic electuary of "21" fraud & Groucho Marxist left-wing crow
It's no accident this reflexive kleptocrat had never sought office. She never ran simply because she's an incompetent, a bore & a crook who cannot withstand the truth, witness the prescreened crowds, the pre-programmed appearances or alternatively, the mute "listening tour," the unavailability—indeed, the "bluebird" Much easier to hitch a ride on the backs of a predatory husband & the women they abused.
So why then did she eventually run?
The answer was the same in 2000 as it is now: She was not simply running for office; she was running from indictment.
And IC Robert Ray, who replaced Starr, complied. "I have been charged w/ [ensuring] the work of this office [has] no untoward effect on the political process" he puffed, as if leaving a reckless criminal in place isn't far more pernicious…
Comey can still redeem himself. There is an intriguing correlation between the gaps in her emails & the Russia uranium deal…
Nov 2000, sometime before 1st Tues after 1st Mon:
"Bird of paradise" would have been a brilliant wrong answer to the NY-state-bird question; in one fell swoop it would have flattered the necessary constituency, rendered her cheating marginally believable, & suggested a quick, secure, creative mind; instead she gushed, "It's the bluebird—I know that," unable to fake even one wrong answer in Letterman's phony pop quiz, a nostalgic electuary of "21" fraud & Groucho Marxist left-wing crow
It's no accident this reflexive kleptocrat had never sought office. She never ran simply because she's an incompetent, a bore & a crook who cannot withstand the truth, witness the prescreened crowds, the pre-programmed appearances or alternatively, the mute "listening tour," the unavailability—indeed, the "bluebird" Much easier to hitch a ride on the backs of a predatory husband & the women they abused.
So why then did she eventually run?
The answer was the same in 2000 as it is now: She was not simply running for office; she was running from indictment.
And IC Robert Ray, who replaced Starr, complied. "I have been charged w/ [ensuring] the work of this office [has] no untoward effect on the political process" he puffed, as if leaving a reckless criminal in place isn't far more pernicious…
Comey can still redeem himself. There is an intriguing correlation between the gaps in her emails & the Russia uranium deal…
Is it iawesome that we put criminals on a pedestal?
This is so disturbing on so many levels.
This is so disturbing on so many levels.
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As Ms. Roller documents, no matter what Hillary Clinton posts on social media, her detractors twist, tear, trash and Trump it. As Republicans have proved for many decades, they specialize, not in serving the nation, but in assassinating the character those who do or would. From mocking President Carter's prescient lead on green energy and energy conservation, Republicans upped their game, turning Michael Dukakis into Willie Horton's best friend; embarrassed by President Bush's defeat, Republicans went into overdrive with nonstop allegations and investigations of the Clintons, until they raised sexual dalliance to 'high crimes and misdemeanors.' Swift-boating John Kerry, Republicans showed they do not honor our military men and women for their service to our nation; insulting President Obama, Republicans show they do not even honor the Office of President.
For the 2016 election, Republicans have recruited a super (vain) villain, Donald Trump--master of insults, conspiracies and character assassination. Trump makes his Republican minions look feeble as he practices lessons learned in, 'Trump: The Art of Personal Destruction.'
Hillary should press on with her outreach to millennials; they are smart and not easily Trumped. Republicans will crucify Hillary no matter what she does or does not do. So press on, take the high road, just be wary of Republican ankle-biters. That might be a meme which just could go viral.
For the 2016 election, Republicans have recruited a super (vain) villain, Donald Trump--master of insults, conspiracies and character assassination. Trump makes his Republican minions look feeble as he practices lessons learned in, 'Trump: The Art of Personal Destruction.'
Hillary should press on with her outreach to millennials; they are smart and not easily Trumped. Republicans will crucify Hillary no matter what she does or does not do. So press on, take the high road, just be wary of Republican ankle-biters. That might be a meme which just could go viral.
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"As Ms. Roller documents, no matter what Hillary Clinton posts on social media, her detractors twist, tear, trash and Trump it."
could this be because she says one thing and does another? She claims she is for the working man yet while on the board of Walmart voted against raising wages of associates. She claims to be in favor of wage equality and pro-child care yet while head of the State Dept and at the Clinton foundation did not do a single thing to do this, albeit she had the power (especially at the Clinton foundation). Considering these facts can we really take her facebook comments seriously? Are they nothing more than political pablum intentended to get her elected (a position she feels herself entitled to)?
could this be because she says one thing and does another? She claims she is for the working man yet while on the board of Walmart voted against raising wages of associates. She claims to be in favor of wage equality and pro-child care yet while head of the State Dept and at the Clinton foundation did not do a single thing to do this, albeit she had the power (especially at the Clinton foundation). Considering these facts can we really take her facebook comments seriously? Are they nothing more than political pablum intentended to get her elected (a position she feels herself entitled to)?
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The GOP wants control of the White House so badly that I think they have become incapable of reason on any position other than the ones they "support". I think that they have forgotten that the presidency is an elected position and that we, the people do the electing, not them. I just hope that this election is not close and not thrown to the Supreme Court, especially after what happened in 2000.
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@yoda
Not being Hillary Clinton, I don't know that she feels she is entitled to be president; her detractors have said so, but then her detractors have alleged and implied many things including that she likely planned the attack on the US compound in Benghazi and would have participated personally if it had not been that she was occupied selling nuclear weapons to ISIS that day. Republicans are hunting/thirsting (and will do so every day of her 2 term presidency) for the email that will prove her complicity in founding ISIS.
Okay, Hillary is no Bernie. That much conceded, what do you think Hillary could have done to promote wage equality and child care while Secretary of State? The federal government already has pay equality and most agencies have daycare centers, but not even the president can order pay equality and daycare for the private sector. You should be asking why Speaker Ryan and his party stand against pay equality and childcare.
I'm no authority on the Clinton Foundation; all I know is it has been heavily involved in fighting HIV/AIDS in Africa. Should it be fighting for pay equality and childcare? Why isn't the American Cancer Society fighting for pay equality and childcare? By your reasoning, the NRA should be fighting for pay equality and daycare. Why isn't it?
Hillary may not please everyone, but she is undeniably qualified to be president and can be best judged by her actions as president.
Not being Hillary Clinton, I don't know that she feels she is entitled to be president; her detractors have said so, but then her detractors have alleged and implied many things including that she likely planned the attack on the US compound in Benghazi and would have participated personally if it had not been that she was occupied selling nuclear weapons to ISIS that day. Republicans are hunting/thirsting (and will do so every day of her 2 term presidency) for the email that will prove her complicity in founding ISIS.
Okay, Hillary is no Bernie. That much conceded, what do you think Hillary could have done to promote wage equality and child care while Secretary of State? The federal government already has pay equality and most agencies have daycare centers, but not even the president can order pay equality and daycare for the private sector. You should be asking why Speaker Ryan and his party stand against pay equality and childcare.
I'm no authority on the Clinton Foundation; all I know is it has been heavily involved in fighting HIV/AIDS in Africa. Should it be fighting for pay equality and childcare? Why isn't the American Cancer Society fighting for pay equality and childcare? By your reasoning, the NRA should be fighting for pay equality and daycare. Why isn't it?
Hillary may not please everyone, but she is undeniably qualified to be president and can be best judged by her actions as president.
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I'll take Hillary's over-the-top intellect any day over Trump's almost mindless diatribes.
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Too bad the Bernie Supporters can't move on, showing just how immature they really are. They still don't recognize the majority of the electorate who voted in the Democratic Primaries agreed with this rationale, preferring Experience and Cunning over Sanders's Magic Wands and Fairy Dust.
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"Sometimes, inauthenticity can become a meme unto itself." Kinda late to the party, aren't you Emma? People have been calling Hillary "inauthentic" (and other things too) for 20 years.
As for "liking" Trump's idiot posts, his supporters will excuse anything he does or says--like shoot someone, in broad daylight, on Fifth Avenue.
As for "liking" Trump's idiot posts, his supporters will excuse anything he does or says--like shoot someone, in broad daylight, on Fifth Avenue.
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So tired of hearing/reading about how "people" think Secretary (why Mrs.?) Clinton is "calculating and untrustworthy."
Talk about a meme -- straight from the right wing echo chamber.
There's a con man, a snake oil salesman, and possible criminal running for president on the GOP ticket, and this story about social media is how the NYT wastes column inches covering the Democratic candidate?
I trust Secretary Clinton, and as for calculating, I would assume that anyone qualified to be president would have to be calculating: dealing with foreign powers requires calculation.Dealing with right wing Republicans in Congress requires even more.
Sick of the emails, too.
There's a maniac conspiracy theorist whose former campaign manager has worked for the Russians/Putin running for president, and we're talking about social media and Secretary Clinton?
And the boring emails....
Talk about a meme -- straight from the right wing echo chamber.
There's a con man, a snake oil salesman, and possible criminal running for president on the GOP ticket, and this story about social media is how the NYT wastes column inches covering the Democratic candidate?
I trust Secretary Clinton, and as for calculating, I would assume that anyone qualified to be president would have to be calculating: dealing with foreign powers requires calculation.Dealing with right wing Republicans in Congress requires even more.
Sick of the emails, too.
There's a maniac conspiracy theorist whose former campaign manager has worked for the Russians/Putin running for president, and we're talking about social media and Secretary Clinton?
And the boring emails....
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Let's get this straight right now.
If my wife came home and found that I'd been lying about an affair with a 20 something year old AND had something to do "sexually" with a cigar, myself and my baggage would be thrown out onto the front lawn, rightfully so.
Ms. Clinton, at least the "calculating" lady referred to in your column, chose a different path realizing full well that a political future as just Hillary Rodham would get her nowhere, that all important "presidential" last name the reason she can even run for the office.
So far, her plan is working quite well especially with an opponent as incompetent as "The Hair That Spoke Like a Man" Trump and, I trust, she will make about as fine a president as we've had these last 25 years or so, sarcasm not intended but certainly present.
As for her "Facebook" presence, well, I'm way out at the end of that particular 'Bell Shaped Curve' as my efforts at "social media" are hanging around the local coffee shop here in Collinsville, Ct. and listening to the "old timers" gripe about, well, everything.
Somehow, the words "Face" and "Book" just don't seem to go together for me but, unlike much of the younger generation, I will actually go out and vote particularly when the choice is between a Benito Mussolini wannabe or a veteran politician though, certainly, not without her own faults.
If my wife came home and found that I'd been lying about an affair with a 20 something year old AND had something to do "sexually" with a cigar, myself and my baggage would be thrown out onto the front lawn, rightfully so.
Ms. Clinton, at least the "calculating" lady referred to in your column, chose a different path realizing full well that a political future as just Hillary Rodham would get her nowhere, that all important "presidential" last name the reason she can even run for the office.
So far, her plan is working quite well especially with an opponent as incompetent as "The Hair That Spoke Like a Man" Trump and, I trust, she will make about as fine a president as we've had these last 25 years or so, sarcasm not intended but certainly present.
As for her "Facebook" presence, well, I'm way out at the end of that particular 'Bell Shaped Curve' as my efforts at "social media" are hanging around the local coffee shop here in Collinsville, Ct. and listening to the "old timers" gripe about, well, everything.
Somehow, the words "Face" and "Book" just don't seem to go together for me but, unlike much of the younger generation, I will actually go out and vote particularly when the choice is between a Benito Mussolini wannabe or a veteran politician though, certainly, not without her own faults.
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I like the authentic Hillary who knows about land mines in Laos. It's fun that she wants to use facebook and social media, it's probably the only why she can connect or even touch young voters. However we must not forget it impossible to be all things to all people. Its really crazy to compare her "likes" of facebook to see how good she is doing. I think it's telling that she comes across as odd when she tries to be your best pal while Trump come across as phony when he tries to be presidential.
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"I like the authentic Hillary who knows about land mines in Laos."
What her campaign doesn't understand is that many of the millennials she's trying to reach via social media also would like the authentic Hillary who knows about land mines in Laos. Younger voters are actually the most educated generation in the country, are in many cases straight out of college, and are decidedly not opposed to intellectual engagement. In other words, she should stop being afraid of sounding smart!
What her campaign doesn't understand is that many of the millennials she's trying to reach via social media also would like the authentic Hillary who knows about land mines in Laos. Younger voters are actually the most educated generation in the country, are in many cases straight out of college, and are decidedly not opposed to intellectual engagement. In other words, she should stop being afraid of sounding smart!
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Absolutely @Dave. Clinton doesn't need to be some kind of pop star to have an impact on social media. Never mind the dancing or witty captions.
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The picture of HRC, all agog, taking a selfie reminds me of George Bush 1 being marveled by supermarket price scanners in 1992.
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Like me, the kids taught her how.
LOL! I also recall HC being asked if her personal server had been "scrubbed" and she said something about a "washboard"....she does not seem very tech savvy and that concerns me as she is now posing as a tech leader.....maybe more of a shill for the tech industry greedy for profits from tax payer $ , just as she shills for Monsanto's dangerous GMO products and poisons.
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Wrong: she's known about selfies all along, she's just a typical older person who's more delighted and less blase about them than younger persons are. Bush 1 didn't know about scanners because he never went to a supermarket. And I'm sure the housewife Hillary in the 1970s and 1980s actually bought groceries, both before and after scanners came. They were used as early as 1976, and were in general use by 1982:
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/05/us/bush-encounters-the-supermarket-ama...
There's plenty that Trump would be agog at for lack of real world experience; he just won't let himself be caught in such situations for the media.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/05/us/bush-encounters-the-supermarket-ama...
There's plenty that Trump would be agog at for lack of real world experience; he just won't let himself be caught in such situations for the media.
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Hillary enjoys small intimate gatherings because they are with supporters who will not challenge her. Sunday morning political talk shows don't cut it, because they are all in the tank for her and feed her softball questions. The reason she hasn't given the press conference this year, is because she knows she'll be challenged and as in the past, will be caught answering with one lie after another. She simply cannot keep her story straight. A Hillary administration, would be the most secretive ever in the history of our country. God help us.
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So you're saying that this woman who has been constantly investigated and lied about since 1992 doesn't have the wherewithal to give a press conference? The same woman who stood up to 11 hours of televised grilling by a gang of men who would just love to hang her on the Mall? Stay deluded and please do vote for the Big Yam who lies like the rest of us breath.
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She refuses to give a press conference. That's what disturbs people. The fact that you segue every concern to being "deluded" and a Trump supporter (such copycats) tells me you're a paid commenter. Please let a real supporter respond on these posts, Democrat to concerned Democrat. And enough with the name-calling. Even if you're a paid commenter, you're not doing your job to persuade people to support Mrs. Clinton by insulting anyone with a question. Please, dear "Off the Record" PAC for Hillary, don't pay them when they do this.
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Like the Bush family the Clintons live in a bubble and are out of touch w/ reality....they only allow in what they want to hear.
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You youngz are too easily seduced by dank memes, social media, and Donald Trump's brand of Twitter pugilism. You should be more like those urbane, college-educated millennials, like Lena Dunham, Buzzfeed's "Another Round" and whoever reads Hillary Clinton's ghostwritten articles in "The Toast" or "Teen Vogue".
You need to appreciate that although Hillary Clinton has not done a single press conference in 250 days, you can still see how authentic, approachable and like your mom's smartest friend Hillary Clinton is, whenever her employees interview her in her popular "With Her" podcast.
Hillary Clinton really shouldn't have to project an "authentic" online persona to fulfill another ideal that doesn't really exist, because Hillary Clinton is a good listener, a wonk. and social media just can't show you her authenticity, impressive intellect and diplomatic experience.
The longer news media campaigns for Hillary Clinton, and the more money spent marketing her, the better Bernie Sanders looks. And I'm an old person who just empathizes with the kidz, whose poverty is only slightly ameliorated by the fact it means they can't afford to read this ham fisted public relations marketing.
You need to appreciate that although Hillary Clinton has not done a single press conference in 250 days, you can still see how authentic, approachable and like your mom's smartest friend Hillary Clinton is, whenever her employees interview her in her popular "With Her" podcast.
Hillary Clinton really shouldn't have to project an "authentic" online persona to fulfill another ideal that doesn't really exist, because Hillary Clinton is a good listener, a wonk. and social media just can't show you her authenticity, impressive intellect and diplomatic experience.
The longer news media campaigns for Hillary Clinton, and the more money spent marketing her, the better Bernie Sanders looks. And I'm an old person who just empathizes with the kidz, whose poverty is only slightly ameliorated by the fact it means they can't afford to read this ham fisted public relations marketing.
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Excuse me, dear writer, but Facebook isn't alternative media. It's a place to post pictures of cats and grandkids -- not how you reach young voters in 2016. And why a traditional newspaper allows a writer to cite it as an excuse not to hold a news conference would be bizarre -- except this is the New York Times that must defend Mrs. Clinton hiding from the press for the past year.
Here's why this social media foray is a dumb way to get young people to vote for her. Young people, like older people, know that professional writers get hired by politicians to "post" on social media platforms. Millennials, raised on advertising targeting their numbers, in fact, are very good at detecting sophisticated advertising posing as "unscripted" chatter. What millennials will listen to are her answers to questions she has not received in advance, like, you know, at an old-fashioned news conference.
P.S. I wish she would stop allowing that "Correct the Record" PAC to keep paying people to post positive Clinton comments on social media and on traditional media platforms like this one. Even if someone sincerely supports her, the average reader is forced to ask, is this person being paid to say they support her? Surely, she has enough real supporters now to cut that stuff out.
Here's why this social media foray is a dumb way to get young people to vote for her. Young people, like older people, know that professional writers get hired by politicians to "post" on social media platforms. Millennials, raised on advertising targeting their numbers, in fact, are very good at detecting sophisticated advertising posing as "unscripted" chatter. What millennials will listen to are her answers to questions she has not received in advance, like, you know, at an old-fashioned news conference.
P.S. I wish she would stop allowing that "Correct the Record" PAC to keep paying people to post positive Clinton comments on social media and on traditional media platforms like this one. Even if someone sincerely supports her, the average reader is forced to ask, is this person being paid to say they support her? Surely, she has enough real supporters now to cut that stuff out.
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Hillary Clinton wants to actually be President of the United States.
Donald Trump wants to actually be your Twitter twit and Facebook friend.
That's the difference between the two major party candidates.
Let's see if Americans can distinguish between that ever-so-subtle difference.
Donald Trump wants to actually be your Twitter twit and Facebook friend.
That's the difference between the two major party candidates.
Let's see if Americans can distinguish between that ever-so-subtle difference.
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Sadly, Hillary represents to the youth as a continuation of exactly what is wrong today. The youth tell us that their parents and grandparents generations screwed up everything, including the planet, by their overindulgence, greed, excesses, giving away their citizen power to big money, no, literally handing over their power to Big Money, here, take it. The youth can see through all this (thanks to Bernie's x-ray vision). The youth also attribute our planet plunged in wars, strife and conflict as their parents' inability to live in peace with others who do not follow their like minded views (in religion, race, politics, nationality, tribe, gender....slice it whichever way you like). The youth tell us they want change, they thought Obama would usher that change in, but poor Obama himself got sucked into a system created to be sucked into.
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"Hillary Clinton wants to actually be President of the United States.
Donald Trump wants to actually be your Twitter twit and Facebook friend.
That's the difference between the two major party candidates."
There's a striking similarity between them though: Both of them seem more concerned about their personal ambition than what's best for the country.
Donald Trump wants to actually be your Twitter twit and Facebook friend.
That's the difference between the two major party candidates."
There's a striking similarity between them though: Both of them seem more concerned about their personal ambition than what's best for the country.
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So, Soc, the choice is between a power monger and a narcissist. Some choice!
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Two things strike me:
1, It is unnerving that the Clinton campaign continued to have difficulty in finding Clinton's "authentic" persona. If she's a wonk, announce it proudly. If she's best one-on-one, go for it. But stop pandering on social media-- it will backfire.
2. If the Clinton campaign wants to reach millennials on Facebook, probably a good idea to utilize Bernie Sanders on her behalf.
1, It is unnerving that the Clinton campaign continued to have difficulty in finding Clinton's "authentic" persona. If she's a wonk, announce it proudly. If she's best one-on-one, go for it. But stop pandering on social media-- it will backfire.
2. If the Clinton campaign wants to reach millennials on Facebook, probably a good idea to utilize Bernie Sanders on her behalf.
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And a third thing strikes me:
3. The photo at the top of the article has many people surrounding Hillary as she takes a selfie: about 6 are men, but about 17 are women, including 1 girl and 1 Muslim, and almost all are YOUNG. That's the authentic Hillary, inspiring young women everywhere she goes. Her digital handlers should be utilizing that authenticity for all it's worth -- which is a lot. Her contemporary women quietly support her and vote in greater percentages, but it's young women who are inspired by her and who are more vocal -- but who don't vote in as great numbers, and who need to be registered and encouraged to vote!
3. The photo at the top of the article has many people surrounding Hillary as she takes a selfie: about 6 are men, but about 17 are women, including 1 girl and 1 Muslim, and almost all are YOUNG. That's the authentic Hillary, inspiring young women everywhere she goes. Her digital handlers should be utilizing that authenticity for all it's worth -- which is a lot. Her contemporary women quietly support her and vote in greater percentages, but it's young women who are inspired by her and who are more vocal -- but who don't vote in as great numbers, and who need to be registered and encouraged to vote!
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If Ms Clinton wants to engender trust among the tens of millions who do not trust her, she needs to come out of her Nixonian bubble and speak in venues where she does not control the message.
Why has she not had a Press Conference?
Why has she not gone on any Progressive Radio shows that would be friendly to her like Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, Bill Press, etc?
Clinton partisans like to attribute any criticism of Ms Clinton to being a "Republican Troll", a "Clinton Hater" or a "Bernie Bro" whom I have never met an example of during a year of volunteer work for the campaign. No, Progressives like myself have well founded misgivings based upon her and her husband's track record, and yes it is fair to bring Bill up as he sold them as a 2-for-1 deal in 1992 and 1996.
Millions of voters think that there are 2 Hillarys: Pre-Election Hillary and Post-Election Hillary. She claims to be a Progressive despite a voting record that looks very Wall Street & Defense Hawk. Which is she?
We also want to see the speeches she made to Goldman and others for more than a Senator or Secretary of State makes in a year. She promised to when other candidates followed and nobody left in the race made speeches to Wall Street for money behind closed doors. When do we get to see your paean to Lloyd Blankfein for "just doing God's work", Ms Clinton?
She is not asking us to be Superintendent or Mayor, she is asking for the keys to the United States Executive Branch. We need unscripted openness.
Why has she not had a Press Conference?
Why has she not gone on any Progressive Radio shows that would be friendly to her like Thom Hartmann, Stephanie Miller, Bill Press, etc?
Clinton partisans like to attribute any criticism of Ms Clinton to being a "Republican Troll", a "Clinton Hater" or a "Bernie Bro" whom I have never met an example of during a year of volunteer work for the campaign. No, Progressives like myself have well founded misgivings based upon her and her husband's track record, and yes it is fair to bring Bill up as he sold them as a 2-for-1 deal in 1992 and 1996.
Millions of voters think that there are 2 Hillarys: Pre-Election Hillary and Post-Election Hillary. She claims to be a Progressive despite a voting record that looks very Wall Street & Defense Hawk. Which is she?
We also want to see the speeches she made to Goldman and others for more than a Senator or Secretary of State makes in a year. She promised to when other candidates followed and nobody left in the race made speeches to Wall Street for money behind closed doors. When do we get to see your paean to Lloyd Blankfein for "just doing God's work", Ms Clinton?
She is not asking us to be Superintendent or Mayor, she is asking for the keys to the United States Executive Branch. We need unscripted openness.
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David Gregory: What do you mean "we", Kemosabe?
You're making a lot of assumptions about who agrees with you and why.
You're making a lot of assumptions about who agrees with you and why.
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You need to do a little better investigating of Hillary, AND of Bernie. You have a very selective and Bernie filter through which you view Hillary's past. Where is your litany of Bernie's past legislative achievements? Where is your litany of what you learned by listening to 3-1/2 hnights of testimonials during the Democratic Convention? Where is your demand for Bernie's past paid speeches -- oh, yeah. He's never been invited to make one. I would much prefer a broad selection of past performances in the Senate, on the World Stage, and throughout this country. No, she's not an inward looking isolationist, so married to a hearts and flowers memory that she cannot relate to the heartbreak and crushing needs of the people of this country. The difference between Hillary and Bernie is that she actually continued to live implement the ethics and morality of the revolution she grew great up in; but Bernie just continued to talk, sometimes bellow about his. NO, Gregory, she cannot be summed up as a "hawk;" She is far too gifted, too complex and too accomplished for such a simplistic reduction.
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I'd enjoy a press conference too but she could have PTSD from oh let me see, 25+ years of being vilified by the WSJ.com , Drudge, Breitbart, Fox News and "Friends"....Even some liberals talk about her "authenticity problem" as though it were a foregone conclusion. A few are more polite about it, for imstamce, "Wow, N% of voters still say no they don't trust her!" Fair! But they don't spin it with tone and use elbow grease to compound the impression which is and would not, for more objective reporters/anchors, be journalistic integrity really.
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Another reason not to have Facebook.
More worthless clutter for cyberspace!
More worthless clutter for cyberspace!
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My kids banned us from FB when they opened their own accounts back when it started. They are themselves not too much younger than Zuckerberg but they had the foresight to banish us so we would not spy on them and add to the clutter in cyberspace. Now they themselves seem to be past FB, they don't get into group postings, they use it mostly to stay in touch with close friends who are as conscious of time and space in cyberworld.
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more importantly, a true waste of time and an insult to one's intelligence, as the comments on Clinton's page makes clear.
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Politicians who pretend to share the interests or attitudes of some group of voters insult the intelligence of their constituents and thereby lose their respect. Kerry decked out in hunting gear to impress outdoorsmen, Dukakis riding in a tank, and Clinton using inauthentic language ("I'm just chilling...") are prime examples of such behavior.
Most voters don't expect (or even want) their elected leaders to behave like their best friends. They do want someone who can empathize with their problems and who will work to make government responsive to their needs. FDR inspired intense devotion (as well as hatred) among voters, not because he imitated their next-door neighbor, but because he treated them with respect and conveyed a genuine sense of concern for their problems.
Hillary Clinton excels in small-group settings because the intimate environment highlights her warm personality, her sense of humor, and her authentic sense of identity with average Americans. These attributes, along with her profound knowledge of policy, distinguish her from Trump.
The use of social media to portray her in inauthentic ways destroys these advantages and strengthens the impression that she is a phony who will pander to any group to win votes.
Most voters don't expect (or even want) their elected leaders to behave like their best friends. They do want someone who can empathize with their problems and who will work to make government responsive to their needs. FDR inspired intense devotion (as well as hatred) among voters, not because he imitated their next-door neighbor, but because he treated them with respect and conveyed a genuine sense of concern for their problems.
Hillary Clinton excels in small-group settings because the intimate environment highlights her warm personality, her sense of humor, and her authentic sense of identity with average Americans. These attributes, along with her profound knowledge of policy, distinguish her from Trump.
The use of social media to portray her in inauthentic ways destroys these advantages and strengthens the impression that she is a phony who will pander to any group to win votes.
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