Robert: What communism? When I was in China 6 years ago, I had the impression of a super commercial society. Dictatorship is another matter. I do think that in order to stay in power, a dictatorship or oligarchy (the so-called Communist Party) must inspire fear to remain in power. I do think it's a good thing that people are risking prison in order to commemorate the brutally repressed demonstration in Tiananmen in 1989. It's important to keep the memory alive.
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Communism as an ideology and as a Leninist CCP are two different creatures.
After Tiananmen the party basically gave up on the Marxian ideology as rational for equalitarianism and shifted to “100 years of Humiliation” as cover. But the Leninist notion of Democratic Centralism lives on for the 87 million members as do the symbols of Hammer and Sickle. Hypocrisy in politics seems to be a universal.
After Tiananmen the party basically gave up on the Marxian ideology as rational for equalitarianism and shifted to “100 years of Humiliation” as cover. But the Leninist notion of Democratic Centralism lives on for the 87 million members as do the symbols of Hammer and Sickle. Hypocrisy in politics seems to be a universal.
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Once again, the Communist Party of China demonstrates its brittle sensitivity to dissent. Thank you for keeping us up-to-date on this.
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seeing this man standing in front of a line of tanks who came there from another city to suppress the prostration is always an inspiration for me. I hope the Chinese finally obtain the freedom they deserve.
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Sadly most Chinese young people don't or won't acknowledge what this is all about.
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Very ordinary people, the three — a poet, a freelance advertising designer and a former driver — Ma Qing (“picking quarrels and provoking trouble,), Fu Hailu (“inciting subversion of state power”), Zhang Junyong (“inciting subversion”).
Satire is deadly, there’s much of it in both the label and in the charges issued. The latter will the be missed by the authorities but surely not by many others: picking quarrels, provoking trouble, inciting subversion of state power.
Will they be eulogized in some future when they are released from detention as many were in post-Mao China? Wouldn’t that be grand.
Satire is deadly, there’s much of it in both the label and in the charges issued. The latter will the be missed by the authorities but surely not by many others: picking quarrels, provoking trouble, inciting subversion of state power.
Will they be eulogized in some future when they are released from detention as many were in post-Mao China? Wouldn’t that be grand.
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One would think that the Chinese communists would be celebrating their only military victory in the past 40 years -- albeit, against unarmed citizens of their own country.
If the Tiananmen revolt succeeded, China would be in horrific mess. The democratization of my country S. Korea was so devastating: the economy took a nose dive, labor unions became supreme, factories and companies fled the nation, government and police lost power, gangsters once again rule the streets, and WORST OF ALL is the supremacy of pro-North Korean political bloc in S. Korean politics; they are now the most powerful force. During the authoritarian junta, S. Korea was rich, prosperous, free of organised crime, and pro-north koreans cowered before the military and secret police. Now no more....
To those who criticize China for lack of democracy, just how successful is western democracy in the first place? The financial crises of 2008 showed that the "success of democracy" in the west was just a mirage fueled by debt binge and populist demagoguery. China on the other hand has factories and gold ingots and runs the government in enormous surplus. If the "China is killing us(U.S.A)" as Trump said, then this can be translated that the capitalist authoritarianism is more superior than western liberal democracy.
It is indeed that many lives were lost on June 4th 1989, but those rebels demanding freedom admitted that they didn't even know what freedom is in the first place, and they received clear warnings from the government that their rebellion will not be forgiven, and the rebels got what they sowed... The Chinese government did the right thing in 1989
To those who criticize China for lack of democracy, just how successful is western democracy in the first place? The financial crises of 2008 showed that the "success of democracy" in the west was just a mirage fueled by debt binge and populist demagoguery. China on the other hand has factories and gold ingots and runs the government in enormous surplus. If the "China is killing us(U.S.A)" as Trump said, then this can be translated that the capitalist authoritarianism is more superior than western liberal democracy.
It is indeed that many lives were lost on June 4th 1989, but those rebels demanding freedom admitted that they didn't even know what freedom is in the first place, and they received clear warnings from the government that their rebellion will not be forgiven, and the rebels got what they sowed... The Chinese government did the right thing in 1989
You would have us believe that you are a self-hating South Korean?
Sure thing. It's just that, everything you wrote looks like it came out of a Chinese Foreign Ministry (or Global Times) talking point list.
WRT your simplistic understanding of "democracy", please do not fall into the same trap as those with vested interests who claim that crony capitalism (or free and unfettered markets, as they would have it) and democracy are the same thing.
Sure thing. It's just that, everything you wrote looks like it came out of a Chinese Foreign Ministry (or Global Times) talking point list.
WRT your simplistic understanding of "democracy", please do not fall into the same trap as those with vested interests who claim that crony capitalism (or free and unfettered markets, as they would have it) and democracy are the same thing.
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Just what makes you think that I am a self-hating Korean? Sure I totally despise the current democratic government that is hopelessly inefficient, impotent, and almost hijacked by pro-north korean sympathizers, and I am not alone in this matter; a vast majority of south korean people have nothing but disdain towards their government right now: we even call Korea today as "Hell Chosun(Korea)."
And no, I did not copy from Chinese Foreign Ministry nor am I paid comment in service of China. What I wrote are FACTS that happened and are happening in my country. The West are always in denial whenever they see something not fitting their narrative and vehemently deny it even though a large number of concrete facts prove otherwise. That is quite appalling considering that the West is where the philosophy of "Reason" was born.
Also, I graduated UW Seattle and took political science courses, so I know what democracy is. Seriously, there is nothing undemocratic about the free market run by top 1%. Democracy is about the rule by the people with freedom. The so called 1% ARE PEOPLE TOO; the people who rightly amassed wealth with their freedom and personal efforts and entered politics as a proud successful member of the people and worked to protect their hard won rights and privileges. The sorry state of the west today was the direct result of democratic rule; both are one and the same.
And no, I did not copy from Chinese Foreign Ministry nor am I paid comment in service of China. What I wrote are FACTS that happened and are happening in my country. The West are always in denial whenever they see something not fitting their narrative and vehemently deny it even though a large number of concrete facts prove otherwise. That is quite appalling considering that the West is where the philosophy of "Reason" was born.
Also, I graduated UW Seattle and took political science courses, so I know what democracy is. Seriously, there is nothing undemocratic about the free market run by top 1%. Democracy is about the rule by the people with freedom. The so called 1% ARE PEOPLE TOO; the people who rightly amassed wealth with their freedom and personal efforts and entered politics as a proud successful member of the people and worked to protect their hard won rights and privileges. The sorry state of the west today was the direct result of democratic rule; both are one and the same.
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Sung Bhag..did the Chinese government pay you the standard 50 cents for this piece? I'd say, you could do a lot better.
Considering the commemorative liquor, it seems freedom of speech, press and assembly are still to be cherished by us and yearned for by some others. Those bottle labels would provoke little ire or interest in a democracy, but the Tien An Men massacre would not have occurred in a democracy. So it is sympathy for those in totalitarian states and gratitude for those of us who are not.