Hillary's interventionalist foreign policy isn't what most people want. She is portrayed as being a safer hand on the nuclear button than Trump; she is the candidate who at every option pushes intervention rather than negotiations whether it be Iraq, Libya, Syria... The email mess goes to her character. She lied. It is better to have a less experienced but more moral president.
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No, it does matter if your nice..not soppy nice, but at least, decent, honest, above board when dealing with foundations, not supporting a philandering husband who still gives $2 million to a "friend,". Or to be nice enough not to take millions for speeches and then not release their content. Or, it would be nice not to rely on Super Pacs that rely on the most vicious, David Brock. It matters if you don't deflect, hide, and live your life for greed and money at all costs. And, woudnt it be nice if the people around your campaign didn't hide behind a mantra of "we're untouchable" so we don't talk to the press. Therefore, HRC is the worst scenario for the Democratic Party. And, woman on woman or woman on man, wouldn't it be nice to be nice...and strong and likeable? She's the wrong woman, for sure.
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What I am thinking is, "Are there still undecided voters?" The Donkeys have Hilary and the Elephants have Donald. It is fun reading about the short comings of each candidate (particularly satisfying when the short issue is with Donald); but, I wonder how many undecideds are there left to sway? with that said I am ready for this whole circus of an election to be over already! I have Donald fatigue in the worse way.
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Reply to those opining on the Email Server who claim it is a minor issue & no harm resulted from its use
Perhaps you should consider what retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens said from his service as a Navy code cracker in World War II.
The publisher of the Chicago Tribune, McCormick, hated FDR for his New Deal policies & before the Battle of Midway published that the U.S. had cracked the Japanese naval code & so knew its battle plans. There was much discussion about what to do & the U.S. Navy decided to make no comments on the story & no prosecution of McCormick. The Japanese actually learned of the news paper article but concluded that the claim was false & did not change their codes. The U.S. Navy won at Midway which was the turning point for the war in the Pacific. Only many years later was anyone permitted to speak of when the Japanese naval code was cracked
No foreign government would ever admit to having penetrated into Hillary's email server because it does not benefit anyone to do so & none are stupid or crazy enough to just boast of doing so
Since a great deal of classified material was present on the email server that has not been, & will not be, made available to the public no member of the public without a security clearance has any factual basis to state whether or not the use of the email server has resulted in a serious security breach & those with clearance can't make any statement on the matter
Please tell me how you know your assertions are factual
Perhaps you should consider what retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens said from his service as a Navy code cracker in World War II.
The publisher of the Chicago Tribune, McCormick, hated FDR for his New Deal policies & before the Battle of Midway published that the U.S. had cracked the Japanese naval code & so knew its battle plans. There was much discussion about what to do & the U.S. Navy decided to make no comments on the story & no prosecution of McCormick. The Japanese actually learned of the news paper article but concluded that the claim was false & did not change their codes. The U.S. Navy won at Midway which was the turning point for the war in the Pacific. Only many years later was anyone permitted to speak of when the Japanese naval code was cracked
No foreign government would ever admit to having penetrated into Hillary's email server because it does not benefit anyone to do so & none are stupid or crazy enough to just boast of doing so
Since a great deal of classified material was present on the email server that has not been, & will not be, made available to the public no member of the public without a security clearance has any factual basis to state whether or not the use of the email server has resulted in a serious security breach & those with clearance can't make any statement on the matter
Please tell me how you know your assertions are factual
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Yeah.
Its not about HRC being not likeable, as far as I'm concerned.
I think this is a straw man for what the real issue is, which, interestingly, corporate media, including the NYT won't point out (or, in other words, the HARD QUESTIONS) and that is:
1) She's not a real democrat, or, if you prefer, she's democrat light - maybe a Rockefeller Republican - "neo" liberal - something like that.
2) She's bad about six ways from the Sunday edition of this paper (and actually, more - I can think of that times two) for the country.
Now, if you want to say, yeah, the Bernie-ites and the other Hillary haters really don't NOT LIKE her - as in, AS A PERSON - they just don't like her because of her policies, track record, etc. - OK, maybe.
But I don't think that's what's going on. But it should. This is what Bernie has been doing. This is what Tax Wall Street has been doing. This is what the Green Party has been doing. And I think its just curious how all these REAL issues are so constantly and effectively subsumed in the media, and redirected to the superficial rubric of "likeability".
Its not about HRC being not likeable, as far as I'm concerned.
I think this is a straw man for what the real issue is, which, interestingly, corporate media, including the NYT won't point out (or, in other words, the HARD QUESTIONS) and that is:
1) She's not a real democrat, or, if you prefer, she's democrat light - maybe a Rockefeller Republican - "neo" liberal - something like that.
2) She's bad about six ways from the Sunday edition of this paper (and actually, more - I can think of that times two) for the country.
Now, if you want to say, yeah, the Bernie-ites and the other Hillary haters really don't NOT LIKE her - as in, AS A PERSON - they just don't like her because of her policies, track record, etc. - OK, maybe.
But I don't think that's what's going on. But it should. This is what Bernie has been doing. This is what Tax Wall Street has been doing. This is what the Green Party has been doing. And I think its just curious how all these REAL issues are so constantly and effectively subsumed in the media, and redirected to the superficial rubric of "likeability".
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Maureen Dowd is becoming the William Safire of the NT Times opinion writers. Hillary's vote for the Iraq war did not send many to their deaths. She was one of 29 Democratic Senators, which included Joe Biden and John Kerry, that voted to support President Bush during the emotional turmoil following 9/11. I am so tired of hearing about Hillary's vote. It is nonsensical: the country was split on this issue and it was a Republican led war with faulty information being presented. And Ms. Dowd should actually read the OIG report, rather than just relay excepts that she has heard from others. In the report, NARA (National Archives and Records Administration) informed the OIG that Hillary's production of 55,000 pages of emails related to State department business mitigated her failure to properly preserve those emails that qualified as federal records. The OIG's response: But we still didn't get all the emails from her first 3 months (out of 4 years) as she was transitioning into her Sec. of State position. Yet most of these emails were recovered because she sent them to governments accounts, like those to General Petraeus. In fact, NARA criticizes Colin Powell because he used a private account and not one of his private account emails have been recovered. And it was Powell's UN presentation, more than anything else, the led us into the Iraq war. The OIG concentrates on Clinton, but ignores Powell's more egregious behavior.
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Maureen Dowd's visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton has been a sight to behold for many decades.
But only now, when she seems to be cozying up to Donald Trump and weakly implying an email server set up is somehow more dangerous than every terrible idea that spews from Trump's tiny brain, do we really see the lengths Dowd will go to spit on Hillary.
Truly a sad and desperate spectacle.
Isn't it time for the New York Times to hire a new voice for the Sunday review?
But only now, when she seems to be cozying up to Donald Trump and weakly implying an email server set up is somehow more dangerous than every terrible idea that spews from Trump's tiny brain, do we really see the lengths Dowd will go to spit on Hillary.
Truly a sad and desperate spectacle.
Isn't it time for the New York Times to hire a new voice for the Sunday review?
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When MSNBC is calling her integrity into question you know things are starting to take a turn for the worse for Ms. Clinton's campaign. In any event, the FBI will soon announce the results of the formal investigations into Hillary and the questionable, shadowy activities she was conducting on behalf of the Foundation while Secretary of State. Scores of seasoned, career agents who are neither politically motivated nor constrained have been working around the clock on this case (this is far more serious than a matter of a couple of missing emails and classified information on a "private" server.)
We shall soon see just how far their “political clout” will take them. If FBI does their job and justice is served, Hilary and Bill will end up where they belong: long-term residents of Club Fed.
Naturally, inconvenient facts are unimportant if you're a Hillary cultist because, like any cult, the only thing that matters is the "will to believe." For the rest of the electorate, the forewarned are the forearmed.
http://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/morning_joes_mika_brzezinksi_it_fee...
We shall soon see just how far their “political clout” will take them. If FBI does their job and justice is served, Hilary and Bill will end up where they belong: long-term residents of Club Fed.
Naturally, inconvenient facts are unimportant if you're a Hillary cultist because, like any cult, the only thing that matters is the "will to believe." For the rest of the electorate, the forewarned are the forearmed.
http://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/morning_joes_mika_brzezinksi_it_fee...
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Enough! I don't use my government employer's email service either. While my colleagues have had their personal information stolen, along with their IRS refunds, I have everything forwarded to my own account where there are junk filters and security blocks applied to everything. I think it's a smart thing to do, which is why I do it, and I think anyone who does the same has as much common sense as I do. Which makes it a good test for the least I should be able to expect from a president.
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DMS,
Would you refuse to cooperate with your general inspector, if asked?
Would you refuse to cooperate with your general inspector, if asked?
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Forget likability. Focus on impulse control. The man is a walking, talking disaster in the making.
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The real issue to be discussed among Democrats is that without Bernie Sanders running against Drumpf, the Independent vote is lost for the Dems. It will not go to Hillary beyond 20-30%. That it will not go to Hillary in any significant metric, means that it will go to write in, or to sitting, and Drumpf gets the remainder. Very simple to figure out, unless you are a Hillary supporter.
BTW - still awaiting Krugman's number crunching on the Independent vote demographic, but he thus far fails to address this most important issue for the general election.
BTW - still awaiting Krugman's number crunching on the Independent vote demographic, but he thus far fails to address this most important issue for the general election.
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Q to all HRC die-hard supporters:
Is there any similarities between Trump U and the Clinton self-enriching racket, aka foundation?
I can count 5 myself:
1) Both used hard nose selling/illicit money from applicants or donors
2) Both claim IRS tax deductible
3) Both share Delaware tax loophole address
4) Both use shell companies to save on taxes
5) Both are subject to federal investigations and review
!
Please before you jump on Trump's fraud bandwagon, look closely @ your candidate own practices.
Is there any similarities between Trump U and the Clinton self-enriching racket, aka foundation?
I can count 5 myself:
1) Both used hard nose selling/illicit money from applicants or donors
2) Both claim IRS tax deductible
3) Both share Delaware tax loophole address
4) Both use shell companies to save on taxes
5) Both are subject to federal investigations and review
!
Please before you jump on Trump's fraud bandwagon, look closely @ your candidate own practices.
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One exploited the uneducated the poor, while one exploited the very educated rich. So...
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Once again, Maureen Dowd has pointed out the problems with the HRC candidacy.
While Dowd notes, for HRC it was "a really good speech," it did not not - as many professional commentators would have it - deal a decisive blow to Trump.
In some respects, the speech may have even been premature, reserving little for the later days of the campaign and giving multiple openings for Trump.
Regrettably HRC remains a very flawed candidate whose arrogance may yet prove to be Trump's greatest weapon.
While Dowd notes, for HRC it was "a really good speech," it did not not - as many professional commentators would have it - deal a decisive blow to Trump.
In some respects, the speech may have even been premature, reserving little for the later days of the campaign and giving multiple openings for Trump.
Regrettably HRC remains a very flawed candidate whose arrogance may yet prove to be Trump's greatest weapon.
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Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump seem to get visceral reactions from people. Some hate Hillary (myself included). Some hate Trump (not me, though I don't like him much either). Feelings are polarized.
The last election didn't seem this way. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney had their supporters and their opponents, but the hatred was muted.
This does seem like a strange election. I've never seen one like it.
The last election didn't seem this way. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney had their supporters and their opponents, but the hatred was muted.
This does seem like a strange election. I've never seen one like it.
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Oh Maureen, doing your best to undercut the probable Democratic nominee to what end? Trump? The man is emotionally unhinged from reason, there is no reason to believe he will change in the White House or listen to anyone besides his own "big brain". The attack against the judge on his Trump university case is a window into his inability to refrain from insults. As to his and others continuing to use the vote for the Iraq war against her or anyone else....the vote in Congress was not to declare war...the vote was to authorize the "use of force" if Iraq did not submit to further inspections. I don't think Bush even waited for our demands to be met before bombs started falling. She did not "start" the war or vote for war. She and members of Congress voted for a threat of war, collectively based on false information. This is not something that should be held against her or others at this point. Bush, his neocon advisors, and Dick Cheney are solely responsible for creating the morass that is Iraq today.
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Mary,
Here is the actual title to the law she approved:
'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'
23 Senators had the moral fortitude to vote NO.
Hillary owns a small, yet real, part.
She also oversaw our sloppy withdrawal that failed to protect the Sunnis; leading to the rise of ISIS (ISIL).
Here is the actual title to the law she approved:
'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'
23 Senators had the moral fortitude to vote NO.
Hillary owns a small, yet real, part.
She also oversaw our sloppy withdrawal that failed to protect the Sunnis; leading to the rise of ISIS (ISIL).
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Being unlikable was what did in Ted Cruz. Last I checked he wasn't a woman. Ms. Clinton is unlikable because she is a liar, a thief and a scold.
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Trump's never been elected dog catcher. He has no record of votes. if he had been the Senator from NY in 2003, he would have voted for the war. Trump only changed his mind in 2004. He was not marching in the streets against the war in early 2003. His opposition is, in reality, hindsight.
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Hillary Clinton's foreign policy "expertise" has directly led to the greatest humanitarian crisis since World War II. Hillary built that.
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Yes, Hillary is to blame for the millions of Iraqi's who fled their country over three decades, 4 million @ 2007, with 1.2 million of them staying in Syria, living in poverty, with 50,000 of the women and girls forced into prostitution .... These Iraqi's and their children represent a huge number of the current refugee population. But's let's blame Hillary for decades of chaos, bombings, instability in that region that led to the current exodus. And for 4 dead Americans in Benghazi.
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Can anyone tell me who is the tall woman pictured with Hillary in the white dress?
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Like it or not Dowd, Hillary will be the one !
Little while ago John Dickerson was hammering out Donald the Trump who was frothing at the mouth with his senseless accusations.
Bernie Sanders has lost already Jeff Weaver neglected to tell him that to pack his bag and shampoo and go back to Vermont.
Little while ago John Dickerson was hammering out Donald the Trump who was frothing at the mouth with his senseless accusations.
Bernie Sanders has lost already Jeff Weaver neglected to tell him that to pack his bag and shampoo and go back to Vermont.
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Ive been saying this for a long time now...the GOP keeps lobbing soft balls and the Dems either intentionally swing and miss, or dont even try.
The Dems rely on hope and maybe prayers that the electorate will go out and find the pertinent facts (to Trump and the GOP lies) all by their lonesome, instead of providing it. Instead of going toe-to-toe and being bold and when needed brash, the Dems make a few well worded statements then disappear into the woodwork.
Trump questions the judges ethnicity, no one asks; "Well what about white judges, by your logic Mr. Trump, white judges are also prejudicial. How can any judge be impartial, whats your standard?"
Is it fear? Is the Democratic party just full of people easily bullied? I never thought so till the last several years where true leadership from the House and Senate Dems has been so lacking...so...well, absent. (where is the Democratic leadership, did they get spirited away? Did they retire and not announce it?)
We finally saw some real fighting spirit from Hillary Clinton the other day...I sincerely hope its here to stay and not a random shot in the dark. It suits her and she's going to need it in order to capitalize on all the absurdity coming out of the Trump camp and the GOP in general - if she wants to win in November.
And the rest of the Democratic party better wake up and realize how much is truly at stake this election.
The Dems rely on hope and maybe prayers that the electorate will go out and find the pertinent facts (to Trump and the GOP lies) all by their lonesome, instead of providing it. Instead of going toe-to-toe and being bold and when needed brash, the Dems make a few well worded statements then disappear into the woodwork.
Trump questions the judges ethnicity, no one asks; "Well what about white judges, by your logic Mr. Trump, white judges are also prejudicial. How can any judge be impartial, whats your standard?"
Is it fear? Is the Democratic party just full of people easily bullied? I never thought so till the last several years where true leadership from the House and Senate Dems has been so lacking...so...well, absent. (where is the Democratic leadership, did they get spirited away? Did they retire and not announce it?)
We finally saw some real fighting spirit from Hillary Clinton the other day...I sincerely hope its here to stay and not a random shot in the dark. It suits her and she's going to need it in order to capitalize on all the absurdity coming out of the Trump camp and the GOP in general - if she wants to win in November.
And the rest of the Democratic party better wake up and realize how much is truly at stake this election.
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PAUL RYAN Initially stated that he supported Trump, speaking in a way that was lukewarm at best. After Trumps attack on the Mexican American female governor of New Mexico, Ryan denounced him, demonstrating that the third most powerful elected official in the US finds that Trump exhibits severe lack of impulse control. Once again, Trump's frontal lobe dementia rears its ugly head (or lack thereof). Trump's idea of demonstrating his support from African Americans by pointing out a man who at a Trump rally who had punched a protester. Trump also stated that he did not want the husband, of Hillary's top assistant, Huma Abedin to give him any information. It's true that Anthony Weiner resigned as a representative from the US House, after the selfie of his erection sent via internet was made public. Trump said that he did not want Weiner to tweet him. Here we go again with the locker room stuff. I guess the Trumpster didn't get enough of that with Marco Rubio. I just hope that Trump doesn't decide to tweet a Weiner's weiner picture to prove a point. I think the allusion to Jefferson's calling Adams a hermaphrodite is an interesting twist. But I wouldn't bet that Trump could define the word "hermaphrodite" if challenged to do so. I'd love to see that on one of Trump's TV quiz shows. One commentator recently said that Trump tries to score points every day by saying the most outrageous thing he can. I think his extremely poor judgment shows he's got frontal lobe dementia.
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After years of Pavlovian viewing of shows calculated to lure the prurient and the dysfunctional with abject exempla of the human tragedy among lower-class blacks, browns, and whites, helmed by white (read: "privileged") narcissists like Maury, Jerry Springer, and Mort Downey, we suddenly learn that "the right temperament" is the sine qua non of the American Presidency.
If I vote for Hillary, do I first have "to believe six impossible thngs before breakfast"? Just asking.
If I vote for Hillary, do I first have "to believe six impossible thngs before breakfast"? Just asking.
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If you are as much on the verge fear about Trump as I am I recommend reading 'Madison's Gift' David O. Stewart. Our founders were amazing and really 'out there.' Too bad Trump is stupid and thankfully Madison and friend and
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I remember your print coverage on Bill Clinton in 1992. Those snide and snarky pieces no doubt got you the privilege of writing constantly snide, dishonest, snarky columns on everyone in public, including your good friend Donald Trump and anyone worth dropping a name about from Paris. You did this sleaze against G.W. Bush, no friend of mine, and I felt like I had to go take a shower to cleanse myself. No doubt you are a student of the late and great Bill Safire...name-dropping gone wild, with self-promotion the only theme. Give us some honest insight once and a while!
Tell us in fact exactly how and why Hillary is "untrustworthy" because the GOP Benghasi machine has spent 4 years trying to impune her. According to your articles, and those of most political MSM reporters that "job-killing", "Obamacare is a disaster" mantra from the establishment GOP works. Works! Thus we have Donald Trump to deal with, your cultivated good friend.
Tell us in fact exactly how and why Hillary is "untrustworthy" because the GOP Benghasi machine has spent 4 years trying to impune her. According to your articles, and those of most political MSM reporters that "job-killing", "Obamacare is a disaster" mantra from the establishment GOP works. Works! Thus we have Donald Trump to deal with, your cultivated good friend.
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The focus on Hillary's likeability epitomizes the double standard women constantly face. Donny Trump is despicable, rude, hateful. But Hillary has to answer for her likability? We should be ashamed of ourselves for perpetuating a stereotype that so diminishes women.
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Well, I think it was Al Gore who lost on the question of likeability and he was no woman. People were dying to have a beer with Bush it seems , not a discussion on climate change with Gore. The requirement that you be likeable seems to have been given a lot of play in the Bush-Gore contest and there was no woman involved. And as far as this election goes a lot more jokes and criticisms have been made about the hair and appearance of Trump and Sanders than Clinton. You will have to try to try a little harder to make Clinton appear to be the victim of some unjustified misogyny.
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Maureen, as a long time regular fan of you, I must say here you got it wrong. Better luck next write.
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Honesty is what people expect. Unfortunately that is in short supply these days. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils and I'll take a bombastic businessman any day over a liar that is reckless with top secret government information.
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Let's get the facts straight:
Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/08/22/mf.campaign.slurs.slogans/
Jefferson never personally accused Adams of being an hermaphrodite. His "camp" used a metaphor to describe the quality of Adam's character. Huge difference Maureen.
Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/08/22/mf.campaign.slurs.slogans/
Jefferson never personally accused Adams of being an hermaphrodite. His "camp" used a metaphor to describe the quality of Adam's character. Huge difference Maureen.
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Maureen has had nothing positive to say about Bill Cinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton. It took a while, but I think I'm beginning to see a pattern.
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Let's not kid ourselves; if the general election is between Trump and Clinton, many if not most voters will be vehemently voting against the other candidate rather than enthusiastically voting for their candidate...
AND that's how they're running their campaigns...mostly negative...
AND likeability quotient is just a media distraction from "Do you really want this candidate to be President?"...
AND the media supports the above perverse MO by printing the sensationally negative rather than showing us the facts and detailed analyses of what would make the candidate a great Presidential choice.
AND that's how they're running their campaigns...mostly negative...
AND likeability quotient is just a media distraction from "Do you really want this candidate to be President?"...
AND the media supports the above perverse MO by printing the sensationally negative rather than showing us the facts and detailed analyses of what would make the candidate a great Presidential choice.
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Great read. The email "issue" is going to haunt HRC I'm afraid. I can't understand why she and her staff have let this fester for so long. The "Crooked Hillary" cry is part of the Trump traveling show now and will be until November. The DNC's ham-handed job of working with the Sanders campaign is now going to be a bigger headache. They need his support in the general election and I'm not sure Hillary is good enough to mend that trampled fence.
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June 5, 2016
Personality politics sure is nutty - in the public square and in this age of transparency is what got Trump into this election contest - for the joy of the verbal combat not on matters of State crafting but on the insane verbal abuse sort by the media ('s) and not smart - for really who that is sane would want to take to the political profession that requires the naked truth of one's everything -
More than we should know, or want to, or need to... for let's pause and give account to the resume for the commanding the performance -as Senator Hillary did so well on her foreign policy speech and confronting the obvious of an impaired Donald Trump in persona-hood and non grace for the cloth of the civility's requiring maturity in the name of leadership.
Personality politics sure is nutty - in the public square and in this age of transparency is what got Trump into this election contest - for the joy of the verbal combat not on matters of State crafting but on the insane verbal abuse sort by the media ('s) and not smart - for really who that is sane would want to take to the political profession that requires the naked truth of one's everything -
More than we should know, or want to, or need to... for let's pause and give account to the resume for the commanding the performance -as Senator Hillary did so well on her foreign policy speech and confronting the obvious of an impaired Donald Trump in persona-hood and non grace for the cloth of the civility's requiring maturity in the name of leadership.
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Unfortunately substantial evidence shows the deceptive and dishonest acts and practices of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are established life patterns. The historical evidence also shows that neither of them will pursue an aggressive effort to re-build American's once large and affluent middle class. Clinton's loves Wall Street and the corporate class money and, like Trump, they are focused on maximizing profits from exploiting people. I sticking with Bernie for now, but unfortunately, if he does not succeed, I'm stuck with voting for a dishonest Clinton in hopes that the next new Supreme Court justice will help overturn the 5 to 4 Citizens United decision.
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Can someone please tell me what "jenunosity" means?
5
Hillary Rodham Clinton is a corrupt, dull-witted bureaucrat. She is not a leader.
This was reinforced today by Hillary's Rumpilestiltskin, John Podesta, as he struggled spin Mrs. Clinton's foreign policy dross into gold. All he managed was to confirm her dangerous unfitness for office. And that is without factoring in all her corruption and treachery.
HILLARY'S RUSSIA RESET BUTTON
She wired it backwards
Vladimir unnerved her
Didn't connect it to Russia
Attached it to her server.
She gave Putin our uranium
For Iran nukes, a stealth supply.
She got four hundred fifty million
Mushroom clouds fill our sky.
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"After floundering, her campaign has now settled on a strategy of painting the mogul as unhinged and thin-skinned, which always really gets under his thin skin."
Thats a joke...right?
Hillary has an explosive temper---there have been plenty of documented reports of this. She has suffered from [and presumably been treated for?] depression--is she on medication...other than alcohol?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-strengths-and-anger-white-ho...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/cl...
http://www.bustle.com/articles/87609-these-outstanding-hillary-clinton-d...
http://wonkette.com/400081/is-hillary-clinton-too-drunk-to-be-president
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1553416/Hillary-was-hit-by-dep...
Thats a joke...right?
Hillary has an explosive temper---there have been plenty of documented reports of this. She has suffered from [and presumably been treated for?] depression--is she on medication...other than alcohol?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clintons-strengths-and-anger-white-ho...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/cl...
http://www.bustle.com/articles/87609-these-outstanding-hillary-clinton-d...
http://wonkette.com/400081/is-hillary-clinton-too-drunk-to-be-president
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1553416/Hillary-was-hit-by-dep...
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Another excellent column, Ms. Dowd. Thank you for providing balance to the New York Times.
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For all those complaining about the Hillary e-mail server, where were you when George Bush had an e-mail sever in the White House provided by the RNC?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
How about it Ms. Dowd, want to do a column on that e-mail server controversy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
How about it Ms. Dowd, want to do a column on that e-mail server controversy?
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Maureen continues to be blinded by her hatred for Hillary. While rightfully lampooning the Donald, she continues to attack Secretary of State Clinton for some of her behavior (that is rightfully categorized as bad judgment). However, Maureen never speaks to the intense positives and extreme intellect of the former First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State; this belies Maureen's strange obsession. And to suggest, as Maureen does here, that there is some equivalency between Secretary of State Clinton and Trump is a false equivalency of historic proportions, a false narrative that puts at risk The Republic itself.
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The difference between Trump & Clinton is veneer.
Clinton's veneer of respectability & competence cloaks her corruption, failure, ineptitude, abuses, authoritarianism & rage.
Conversely, Trump's artless, inchoate, hyperbolic, improvisational face hides his successes, reasoned good judgment & great instincts.
When evaluating Clinton, one must be careful not to confuse policy w/ character, cold-blooded w/ dispassionate, calculating w/ wise, wonky w/ competent & smart, corruption w/ success & failure w/ experience.
The Left's demonstrably false premise: Clinton competent/sane/safe, Trump incompetent/insane/dangerous.
One has simply to review Clinton's decades in and about the WH. Her reflexive abuses of women and power. Her public corruption. Her calculated failure to protect national security. Her fascistic impulses. Rwanda.
How do you rationalize Rwanda?
Look around. See her mess.
Libya, Syria, Benghazi, the rise of the Islamic State, Yemen, Honduras, the Russia reset, 2 irrational, nuke-proliferating, legacy-driven deals w/ insane, apocalyptic signatories, hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocents, incalculable future deaths, unleashing of al Qaeda & ISIS, destabilization of 4 continents, the Armageddon pope/generals/Abdullah call WWIII.
Clinton apologists preen & scheme to put this proven unfit & existentially dangerous miscreant back in the WH.
(Insert Einstein's definition of insanity here.)
He knows…
https://youtu.be/RHGJESeoSfk
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Well done. Clinton is at the center of toxic vortex of corruption and malfeasance, into which she sucks staff, friends, and family. She even got President Obama to fib and run cover for her about not knowing that she used an unauthorized server for official communications.
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Do you feel the same way about George Bush and the Iraq war?
Can you imagine what the right wing media would be saying all these years if Obama had been president during the 9/11 attack?
Can you imagine what the right wing media would be saying all these years if Obama had been president during the 9/11 attack?
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Trump's "reasoned good judgment"? What is his position on anything, apart from building a wall and having Mexico pay for it (not happening...). He contradicts and reverses himself before he comes to the end of a sentence. Where exactly is the good judgment?
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I'm transgender, and get both genders, something most people simply can't.
Point is: women are encouraged to be expressive and access their emotions in Full-Binary-America, and that's so liberating and, simply feels good. Bottle that up for a day and you'll see, women, what a blessing you have in this. Women get to be both sugar and spice, men only spice. Them's the Rules!
So for Ms Fields to say Hillary's being held to a double standard that's unfair is quizzically illogical: women can't get access to the full range of emotions and then expect not to be the treated questionably when they want it both ways: can't expect the benefit without the burden. Should women get to entice men etc and then get to act masculine? That's the source of male resentment. And yes, I, more than most, GET that this binary separation of emotions in gender expression IS total crap, but women use it to their advantage the same way men do. And those are the current (silly) rules.
It's not that Hillary is a woman and not allowed to be spice and must be likable. Although a lot of men DO despise her for thinking she is entitled to be president having a vagina!
No, many dislike her not for her spice, but because she IS unlikable: opportunistic, self aggrandizing, self-pitying, entitled, and too clever by 1/2. In democracy we want fellow-leaders, not leaders. Few MALE politicians with her qualities are liked either. Except maybe Trump and look who admires him: the keepers of the Gender Binary Rules!
Point is: women are encouraged to be expressive and access their emotions in Full-Binary-America, and that's so liberating and, simply feels good. Bottle that up for a day and you'll see, women, what a blessing you have in this. Women get to be both sugar and spice, men only spice. Them's the Rules!
So for Ms Fields to say Hillary's being held to a double standard that's unfair is quizzically illogical: women can't get access to the full range of emotions and then expect not to be the treated questionably when they want it both ways: can't expect the benefit without the burden. Should women get to entice men etc and then get to act masculine? That's the source of male resentment. And yes, I, more than most, GET that this binary separation of emotions in gender expression IS total crap, but women use it to their advantage the same way men do. And those are the current (silly) rules.
It's not that Hillary is a woman and not allowed to be spice and must be likable. Although a lot of men DO despise her for thinking she is entitled to be president having a vagina!
No, many dislike her not for her spice, but because she IS unlikable: opportunistic, self aggrandizing, self-pitying, entitled, and too clever by 1/2. In democracy we want fellow-leaders, not leaders. Few MALE politicians with her qualities are liked either. Except maybe Trump and look who admires him: the keepers of the Gender Binary Rules!
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Perhaps the difference is that men are criticized far less for acting on male emotions.
By now we are learning the the more typical women trait of collaboration is more effective than a lot of alpha males.
By now we are learning the the more typical women trait of collaboration is more effective than a lot of alpha males.
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While it is dangerous for a journalist to psychoanalyze Donald Trump. We must realize that this is a man who is suffering from a serious mental disorder that renders him impossible to control himself and puts the country and the world in jeopardy.
But some people can speak out on this all-important subject. Read Author Richard North Patterson's in the Huffington Post: "Too Sick to Lead" in the Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/too-sick-to-lead-t...
This article is long and unlikely to convert any Trump supporters, but independents and disgruntled Bernie fans need to read it. Everybody, Put it on your Facebook pages
But some people can speak out on this all-important subject. Read Author Richard North Patterson's in the Huffington Post: "Too Sick to Lead" in the Huffington Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/too-sick-to-lead-t...
This article is long and unlikely to convert any Trump supporters, but independents and disgruntled Bernie fans need to read it. Everybody, Put it on your Facebook pages
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Who are you exactly to tell others what they need to read, and vote?
Did you see the pictures of the white supporters bloodied in the streets of California? Put down your reading glasses and look and see what is going on in your country.
Do we respect the rights of American citizens? Do we respect speech over violence? Diplomacy over remote-controlled drone warfare? What are they teaching in your churches and temples today? Just the prosperity doctrine?
Did you find it funny the n-word president embraced the "Obama... Out" mic drop at his media comedy dinner a few months back? Is this how it ends then? Change becomes but a whimper word?
We need men like Trump now more than ever. White man be damned, he is a man of action who will clean out Washington and get our country working again. Address immigration already. Stop intervening -- and financing -- everybody civil wars, where we don't even know the players.
Cut Israel loose. She is a big boy now, let her learn to defend her own borders and make peace with her neighbors. We have Latin America, not the Middle East anymore, to worry over... Their troubles are closer to our home than the poor Palestinians throwing rocks at the Israeli illegals settling on Palestinian land.
Talk truth. Stop lying about the killings being done in America's name. Bring Snowden home, with immunity, and let him tell of intelligence oversights. Let people keep their shoes on in airports, and we'll see if terrorists take the cockpits.
Did you see the pictures of the white supporters bloodied in the streets of California? Put down your reading glasses and look and see what is going on in your country.
Do we respect the rights of American citizens? Do we respect speech over violence? Diplomacy over remote-controlled drone warfare? What are they teaching in your churches and temples today? Just the prosperity doctrine?
Did you find it funny the n-word president embraced the "Obama... Out" mic drop at his media comedy dinner a few months back? Is this how it ends then? Change becomes but a whimper word?
We need men like Trump now more than ever. White man be damned, he is a man of action who will clean out Washington and get our country working again. Address immigration already. Stop intervening -- and financing -- everybody civil wars, where we don't even know the players.
Cut Israel loose. She is a big boy now, let her learn to defend her own borders and make peace with her neighbors. We have Latin America, not the Middle East anymore, to worry over... Their troubles are closer to our home than the poor Palestinians throwing rocks at the Israeli illegals settling on Palestinian land.
Talk truth. Stop lying about the killings being done in America's name. Bring Snowden home, with immunity, and let him tell of intelligence oversights. Let people keep their shoes on in airports, and we'll see if terrorists take the cockpits.
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Maureen, my problem with Hillary is not that she's unlikable--it's that's she's corrupt (including bribe-taking type behavior). She turned off her cell phone (and presumably went back to sleep) at 3 a.m. while Americans were being murdered and she was being called for directions by hard-working state department employees trying to assist them. Then she deliberately lied about what happened. Where was the president that night? What did he do? Does anyone know? Would Nixon have gotten off with this absence and agreeing/promotion of a lie about what occurred?
Second, Trump is awful, we all know that, but we're hoping he's less awful (than Hillary). He is the product of a terrible leadership in both parties. The WH has sunk to the level of forcing women and children to tolerate mentally-ill men in their shower rooms, changing rooms and restrooms. This is mass-insanity on a level I've never seen in my life in the USA. It is not guaranteed by Title IX or any other law in the land. But our President is imposing it on all the public schools in the USA (but won't discuss it). Please write a column about that, and my respect for you will grow by leaps and bounds.
Second, Trump is awful, we all know that, but we're hoping he's less awful (than Hillary). He is the product of a terrible leadership in both parties. The WH has sunk to the level of forcing women and children to tolerate mentally-ill men in their shower rooms, changing rooms and restrooms. This is mass-insanity on a level I've never seen in my life in the USA. It is not guaranteed by Title IX or any other law in the land. But our President is imposing it on all the public schools in the USA (but won't discuss it). Please write a column about that, and my respect for you will grow by leaps and bounds.
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I guess you missed the testimony, or even any part of the 11 hours, which does not support your assertion. Nor do any of the reports, Pentagon or State records.
Knock yourself out, though, and join the Dowdies.
"Bribe-taking behavior" - a few speeches by an out of office citizen, amongst dozens of paid speeches to groups representing every segment of our population - from bakers to bankers, tech workers, campers, deli and dairy owners, doctors, teachers, women's rights groups, Canadians ..... the list is available in her numerous released tax returns ..... They All Bribed Her. I probably bribed her. Maybe you too, if you belong to any association who hired her to rev up their annual meeting attendance and share their concerns for our future.
Knock yourself out, though, and join the Dowdies.
"Bribe-taking behavior" - a few speeches by an out of office citizen, amongst dozens of paid speeches to groups representing every segment of our population - from bakers to bankers, tech workers, campers, deli and dairy owners, doctors, teachers, women's rights groups, Canadians ..... the list is available in her numerous released tax returns ..... They All Bribed Her. I probably bribed her. Maybe you too, if you belong to any association who hired her to rev up their annual meeting attendance and share their concerns for our future.
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"Dreams of My Father's Bathroom" explains a lot about Obama's salmon-like drive to Free the Bathrooms, and then go to salmon heaven, his fishy legacy secured.
Trump is not a product of a messed up congress...he's the direct product of a reality TV infused culture, where the audiences have come to adore nasty, trite and scheming "real-people", playing to the camera in the hopes of being the next big-hit on the reality TV star circuit.
Trump is playing to the camera, and to an audience that is easily duped into believing those people on TV are really being real - when the actual reality is, those shows are very much scripted and intentionally cast to elicit certain behaviors! To make a show. If the chosen housewives didnt act-up, what would be the point of it all?
As to the restroom nonsense, there have now been dozens of reports about the reality that these trans men and women have long been using the restroom of their choice! (And why did you leave off the female to male trans side? Its not only male to female trans!)
Have you ever been in a public restroom where anything peculiar was actually going on? (other than maybe a major metro, urban nightclub at 1am.) When was the last time the news had a rash of stories coming from public restrooms?
Mountains out of mole hills is what that issue truly is! Another place for the Religious right and the Sky is falling types to get all excited and run around like crazies about how its all falling down around us!
Trump is playing to the camera, and to an audience that is easily duped into believing those people on TV are really being real - when the actual reality is, those shows are very much scripted and intentionally cast to elicit certain behaviors! To make a show. If the chosen housewives didnt act-up, what would be the point of it all?
As to the restroom nonsense, there have now been dozens of reports about the reality that these trans men and women have long been using the restroom of their choice! (And why did you leave off the female to male trans side? Its not only male to female trans!)
Have you ever been in a public restroom where anything peculiar was actually going on? (other than maybe a major metro, urban nightclub at 1am.) When was the last time the news had a rash of stories coming from public restrooms?
Mountains out of mole hills is what that issue truly is! Another place for the Religious right and the Sky is falling types to get all excited and run around like crazies about how its all falling down around us!
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As always, Dowd shows why she is the most refreshing columnist in the NY Times stable. She dishes equal-opportunity snark, a pleasant change from the rigid, lock-step ideology one often sees on these pages. She was particularly insightful with pointing out the perverse logic of Madeliene Albright. Her litmus test of handling top-secret information is whether someone dies? Surely we should expect more from our leaders. And time after time, Hillary has failed the tests...
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I'd love to have a beer with Hillary!
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If Huma allows you to crowd in.
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Agreed, 1,000 times more than having a beer with Donald.
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Donald does not drink alcohol. How can you beat him if you don't even know that? He's not Ted Kennedy!
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Lin-Manuel Miranda is now a history expert because he wrote a musical?
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Hillary's starting to lose it. Watrch the opening of
THis Week" with her self-proferssed fanboy George Stephanoplous throwing her some curveballs. She has 4 facial tics I've not seen nbefore. Reminds me of her avatar Nixon wiping the sweat off his forehead in awe of a Donald of an earlier day named Jack Kennedy. George is confounding her with extracts from the damning IG report. She's floundering, and foundering, doing the rhetorical rope a dope in homage to M. Ali simultaneously, like a Penn & Teller vignette, all balled up.
She still claims it was S.O.P. at State for her to have an email server in her Chappaqua bathroom -- she's incorrigible. Watch it.
THis Week" with her self-proferssed fanboy George Stephanoplous throwing her some curveballs. She has 4 facial tics I've not seen nbefore. Reminds me of her avatar Nixon wiping the sweat off his forehead in awe of a Donald of an earlier day named Jack Kennedy. George is confounding her with extracts from the damning IG report. She's floundering, and foundering, doing the rhetorical rope a dope in homage to M. Ali simultaneously, like a Penn & Teller vignette, all balled up.
She still claims it was S.O.P. at State for her to have an email server in her Chappaqua bathroom -- she's incorrigible. Watch it.
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This idea or the standard of likability, in my opinion, is totally bogus. Look at Narendra Modi. He is immensely popular. Is he likable? I have never heard of that yardstick applied to him. His opposition, the Indian Congress Party, is busy overtime in demonizing him, bringing up all sorts of silly or dead issues, about which the public cares little, against him.
Let us not try to bury Hillary under all sorts of issues which have nothing to do with her skill to govern the country. Out of the current crop of want-to-be-presidents, she is the most qualified.
Compared to Donald Trump or George W. Bush, she is infinitely better qualified. Remember, George W. Bush had a very high likability rating and look at where he took us.
Let us not try to bury Hillary under all sorts of issues which have nothing to do with her skill to govern the country. Out of the current crop of want-to-be-presidents, she is the most qualified.
Compared to Donald Trump or George W. Bush, she is infinitely better qualified. Remember, George W. Bush had a very high likability rating and look at where he took us.
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The title got attention.
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We don't need someone who is nice. We need a pathological liar, neocon, and corporate shill.
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Hire Marian.
Hillary has spoken for pay to just about every segment of the working force - every interest group, from campers to doctors, women's rights etc..... And overpaid her taxes, if you do the math. Can you do the math?
It's hard to be a shill when you're available to every group who has the brains to hire you to share what you've seen and learned. Essentially, all of us.
Hillary has spoken for pay to just about every segment of the working force - every interest group, from campers to doctors, women's rights etc..... And overpaid her taxes, if you do the math. Can you do the math?
It's hard to be a shill when you're available to every group who has the brains to hire you to share what you've seen and learned. Essentially, all of us.
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You had the pathological liar already, as the FBI showed. He was Impeached. Sometimes he's allowed to appear on the campaign trail, just out of camera range.
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Trump - Palin all the way, you betcha! I can see the White House from here, and I'm not even in Alaska. A truly empowered woman, and le plus pulchritude, mon cher. She'll get lots more done than 2nd fiddle Biden did, 'cause she is Woman, and watch her ROAR. While dowdy ones Shout. She could maybe find Americans some new jobs since Obama & Co. sure can't with any regularity, as the May reports show dramatically.
I agree, 3 million jobs under 8 years of George Bush and that was with 2 tax cuts for "the job creators."
While 13 million jobs and counting under 7 years of Obama and that is with the the "jobs killing" Obama-care.
While 13 million jobs and counting under 7 years of Obama and that is with the the "jobs killing" Obama-care.
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One of the problems of the economy is that we are at near full employment with 4.7% unemployment.
So it is harder to create more jobs like this.
You would think Obama would know this and do something about it.
So it is harder to create more jobs like this.
You would think Obama would know this and do something about it.
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with 4.7% unemployment.
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Stop being disingenuous: "4.7" ignores many MILLIONS of unemployed who long ago stopped looking for work. Even die-hard NYT's Paul Krugman conceded the terrible employment numbers when Grover Norquist cited them on "This Week."
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Stop being disingenuous: "4.7" ignores many MILLIONS of unemployed who long ago stopped looking for work. Even die-hard NYT's Paul Krugman conceded the terrible employment numbers when Grover Norquist cited them on "This Week."
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the one thing donald is NOT is "jejune."
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Maureen takes a beating from Hillary fans on her pieces but her message is clear in its own way
They both are dangerous items and few journalist have the courage to say that this late in the game, but a fare share of he electorate recognize that reality and are concerned.
Clinton’s hawkishness (the gentle term) and Trump’s lack of experience (beyond gentle). Any solutions possible? Temping to leave the top of the ticket unmarked and let chance have her way if Bernie falls away along the way.
They both are dangerous items and few journalist have the courage to say that this late in the game, but a fare share of he electorate recognize that reality and are concerned.
Clinton’s hawkishness (the gentle term) and Trump’s lack of experience (beyond gentle). Any solutions possible? Temping to leave the top of the ticket unmarked and let chance have her way if Bernie falls away along the way.
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It would be so much easier and so much more reassuring if either party nominated someone that most people life, respect and trust. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
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"nutty attack"? How about an "outrageous" attack on the judge?
I do sense that Ms Dowd's dislike for the Clintons is overwhelming to the point that she turns Trump into a "nutty" character rather than more accurately portraying him for the ogre he is with an unhinged worldview.
I do sense that Ms Dowd's dislike for the Clintons is overwhelming to the point that she turns Trump into a "nutty" character rather than more accurately portraying him for the ogre he is with an unhinged worldview.
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Based on what he says, Trump scares me--he sounds reckless and appears to function emotionally at an adolescent level. Hillary endorsed the single greatest foreign policy error in American history, the Iraq war. It caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people; it accomplished nothing of value to the US; it drained our treasury. Then Hillary did it again: she pushed for US military aid to Libyan rebels, resulting in the occupation of Libya by Islamic fundamentalists. I don't wonder whether Hillary has the capacity to make good judgment calls--I already know that she doesn't.
I am voting for the Libertarian ticket. I will not give my stamp of approval to either Trump or Hillary.
I am voting for the Libertarian ticket. I will not give my stamp of approval to either Trump or Hillary.
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Hillary Clinton is far more toxic than Trump. With Trump, the media will do its job again. With Clinton, the media & the bureaucracy simply lets her slide. Clinton is a creature of Washington D.C., deeply entrenched into corruption and influence peddling, who has grown over-accustomed to whitewashing her malfeasance with an accommodating, over-compliant network of government cronies. Trump will be held to account for everything, whereas, Clinton slides by as if she is exempt from accountability and our laws.
Since the only hope for Bernie Sanders is a criminal indictment of Clinton or that Hillary wakes up some soon morning with a conscience (the latter seems impossible and the former, already fixed) then consider this:
Hillary Clinton's foreign policy expertise has directly led to the greatest humanitarian crisis since World War 2. It is metastasizing throughout Europe and friendly governments will fall over this. She promises more of this.
Do you want more of this?
Since the only hope for Bernie Sanders is a criminal indictment of Clinton or that Hillary wakes up some soon morning with a conscience (the latter seems impossible and the former, already fixed) then consider this:
Hillary Clinton's foreign policy expertise has directly led to the greatest humanitarian crisis since World War 2. It is metastasizing throughout Europe and friendly governments will fall over this. She promises more of this.
Do you want more of this?
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NO. And I'd like to nominate Hillary as the cause of 30 years of Iraqi refugee migration - as the proximate cause of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War - definite cause of the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and subsequent Gulf War.
I'll toss in every instance of exported terrorism from Libya since the 80's for good measure. Especially the ones which led us to join Europe in bombing them back. I don't care if she was just a lawyer in Arkansas.
I hold her responsible for the 1.2 million Iraqi refugees who ended up fleeing to Syria in the early 90's, living in poverty, of whom 50,000 women and girls became prostitutes, and who make up a large number of those now fleeing.
I'd like to also nominate Hillary as the instigator of the 1948 expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland to create Israel. But she and I were both toddlers and are thus unreliable as information or causation sources.
I'll toss in every instance of exported terrorism from Libya since the 80's for good measure. Especially the ones which led us to join Europe in bombing them back. I don't care if she was just a lawyer in Arkansas.
I hold her responsible for the 1.2 million Iraqi refugees who ended up fleeing to Syria in the early 90's, living in poverty, of whom 50,000 women and girls became prostitutes, and who make up a large number of those now fleeing.
I'd like to also nominate Hillary as the instigator of the 1948 expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland to create Israel. But she and I were both toddlers and are thus unreliable as information or causation sources.
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Let me just take a wild guess here...
You are an unconditional supporter of Israel, and you like Clinton's track record of destabilizing nations that might be a threat, and don't give a fig's leaf about the people on the ground, including the ones who are prostituting themselves to live.
This is your way of life, but it's not the American way.
You are an unconditional supporter of Israel, and you like Clinton's track record of destabilizing nations that might be a threat, and don't give a fig's leaf about the people on the ground, including the ones who are prostituting themselves to live.
This is your way of life, but it's not the American way.
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The Big Wheel has turned: this American election is not just a national affair, but important to every Earthling with a cell phone. Not for the arcana of personalities, nor the anachronistic headwinds of enslaving time for money, but for the necessity of a common humanity that values each individual's well-being, an awareness that's grown strong from eight years of brokenness.
What happens to the common man in America from this election is a referendum on the near life of everyone on Earth.
What happens to the common man in America from this election is a referendum on the near life of everyone on Earth.
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Dude, that was the last election.
WE're already into full refugee-creation mode -- our American military is number one leading the pack! OUr technology allows us to assassinate families across the world from our base in South Carolina.
A slick public relations campaign, headed by a very beautiful black family, taught most of us voters that you might think you are buying Change, but it's really just George W. Bush's foreign policy repackaged. But nevermind Obama's foreign policy or jobs record or economy for the little-guy workers: didn't Michelle look fabulous, and Barack make you laugh with his comedy routine? Honestly, they are the freshest things in Washington since the Kennedys!
WE're already into full refugee-creation mode -- our American military is number one leading the pack! OUr technology allows us to assassinate families across the world from our base in South Carolina.
A slick public relations campaign, headed by a very beautiful black family, taught most of us voters that you might think you are buying Change, but it's really just George W. Bush's foreign policy repackaged. But nevermind Obama's foreign policy or jobs record or economy for the little-guy workers: didn't Michelle look fabulous, and Barack make you laugh with his comedy routine? Honestly, they are the freshest things in Washington since the Kennedys!
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Dude yourself, Midway,
Those fleeing refugees are the refugees, their children and their families who fled from Iraq and other countries ruled by dictators for 30 yrs - 1.2 million Iraqi's fled to Syria , a larger number to Jordan, after the 1991 Gulf War.
Poverty, prostitution, terrible lives. They're fleeing again. Fewer than 200,000 Iraqi's left in Syria. Hillary didn't create this mess. It is an on-going hell.
Those fleeing refugees are the refugees, their children and their families who fled from Iraq and other countries ruled by dictators for 30 yrs - 1.2 million Iraqi's fled to Syria , a larger number to Jordan, after the 1991 Gulf War.
Poverty, prostitution, terrible lives. They're fleeing again. Fewer than 200,000 Iraqi's left in Syria. Hillary didn't create this mess. It is an on-going hell.
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The cult of presidential personality hopefulness has been dashed with the Obamas under the heels of the good ol' boys. Everybody knows now why government's the problem; everybody knows. Even Obama going in knew he couldn't do anything without our help. The racist in your face is not the problem, it's the momentum of systemics, of political and media toadies available to the highest bidder. We thought O would change everything. Instead, we get the long buried roots of America's racist heritage. Trump has ignorantly done us all a favor by bring those roots to the surface, into the sunlight for all to see and consider. Now, we're collectively the juvenile delinquent schoolyard bully with a big stick and crudity towards all, for all the world to see anew. Is this who we are?
No, it's not who we are - not as Americans, nor as humans. We are bigger than this collective developmental adolescence. And we must stand up for the inevitability of human cooperative maturity: as individuals and part of a larger whole that envisions global sustainability and collective well-being. Obama spoke in the eloquent language of human unity. He planted this visionary seed. Obstructionism and disrespect now water and nurture this vision. We are the ones who must tend and make firm the bringing forth of human unity on Earth. Everyone knows we must be our own heroes now. The time for blaming individual leaders must be put aside for the good of the planet.
No, it's not who we are - not as Americans, nor as humans. We are bigger than this collective developmental adolescence. And we must stand up for the inevitability of human cooperative maturity: as individuals and part of a larger whole that envisions global sustainability and collective well-being. Obama spoke in the eloquent language of human unity. He planted this visionary seed. Obstructionism and disrespect now water and nurture this vision. We are the ones who must tend and make firm the bringing forth of human unity on Earth. Everyone knows we must be our own heroes now. The time for blaming individual leaders must be put aside for the good of the planet.
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Who is the final authority for approving or disapproving operations within the State Dept?
Is it not the SecState?
By definition, the email methods of the SecState were approved by the State Dept when the SecState decides to go ahead.
The IT dept works for her and their recommendations are just that--recommendations. SecState decides when and how to overrule.
Ms. Clinton's email methods WERE APPROVED by the State Dept!
Is it not the SecState?
By definition, the email methods of the SecState were approved by the State Dept when the SecState decides to go ahead.
The IT dept works for her and their recommendations are just that--recommendations. SecState decides when and how to overrule.
Ms. Clinton's email methods WERE APPROVED by the State Dept!
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Good point! That's what power buys you...lol
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When you have to twist things that much you must know you are wrong and once again the progressives and the political elite are asking me to deny the evidence of my own eyes.
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Her decisions and choices were clearly in violation of Executive Order 13526. She worked for the President. She did not have authority to violate her government's rules.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-n...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-n...
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If HRC had any shred of decency and honor she would have dropped out long ago. Guess we will have to just wait for the inevitable indictment, but I think she actually feels she could balance jail with being President ... She's that narcistic!
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Sorry to disappoint you but if she were being indicted it would have happened by now.
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She's being indicted, as we speak, in the court of public opinion, stu.
Sorry to disappoint you, but if the American people had no say in choosing their leaders, we would not all get one vote per American citizen.
At the end of the day, the Clinton counts and accounts just do not add up. The majority of people see that with each coming day, and are determined not to repeat the past 16 years...
Sorry to disappoint you, but if the American people had no say in choosing their leaders, we would not all get one vote per American citizen.
At the end of the day, the Clinton counts and accounts just do not add up. The majority of people see that with each coming day, and are determined not to repeat the past 16 years...
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trans sexual , pre op
not hermaphrodite
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Ms Field is squarely in Ms Clinton's demographic, Ms C's age cohort, not enough to win an election
I want Ms Warren to tell mr Trump ' you didn't build that' - i have my bomb shelter nearby
not hermaphrodite
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Ms Field is squarely in Ms Clinton's demographic, Ms C's age cohort, not enough to win an election
I want Ms Warren to tell mr Trump ' you didn't build that' - i have my bomb shelter nearby
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Can't believe you're still talking about email servers.
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I'll take the imperfect Hillary over the seriously personality disordered Donal Trump.
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I remember when you actually, in writing, in your column, in this newspaper apologized to Al Gore for the nit-picking dumb remarks that assisted to give W,Jr too many extra votes, especially in Florida. 43 ended up as literally the very worst President we're likely to ever experience: unless the same lack of maturity somehow creates a false equivalency of wanting to drink hard liquor, rather than just a beer with 'Donald'.
I dunno, the media has strange, conflicting agendas in the Presidential election cycle. Ever in need of something sensational but "Hermaphrodite". I actually thought that you might have spent the column today on the absurdities of American politics. Instead, it's that drip, drip, drip of the Picadorian blood letting of the better choice. I stopped reading your submissions to the NYTimes 7 years ago due to the constant Obama bashing. Well, you are consistent if nothing else noteworthy Ms. Dowd. And yes, I'm fully aware of the nastiness of Presidential Elections here in the USA. I'm not sure if we ever had an intellectual invalid on the same scale of Donald.
I dunno, the media has strange, conflicting agendas in the Presidential election cycle. Ever in need of something sensational but "Hermaphrodite". I actually thought that you might have spent the column today on the absurdities of American politics. Instead, it's that drip, drip, drip of the Picadorian blood letting of the better choice. I stopped reading your submissions to the NYTimes 7 years ago due to the constant Obama bashing. Well, you are consistent if nothing else noteworthy Ms. Dowd. And yes, I'm fully aware of the nastiness of Presidential Elections here in the USA. I'm not sure if we ever had an intellectual invalid on the same scale of Donald.
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As the classic analysis by Stuart Taylor in the National Journal showed, Al Gore lost the election from 97,000 Nader voters. Worse, too many of Gore's Florida voters had arthritis to manage the hanging chads. "Oh, my joints ache, Mildred!" The capper: SCOTUS reviewed the election results solely at Gore's request, and sealed his fate.
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I don't get the angle of the piece...so Hillary is a hermaphrodite too? Just a dishonest lying one?
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Does it matter if a President is likable?Really should not but I agree it does to lots of people. What is being likable? Good looks, smiles.., dressing like the crowd, being a "team member" , not saying the wrong things, don't look too smart and be a know it all. Dummy down to the lower folks in the crowd. Maybe drinking a bit too much or if a mormon not drinking at all. Go along with the gossip. Agreeing on any and all subjects.
Well, thats not what i want in a President that has to make terrible important complicated decisions everyday. We had a "good ole boy" with Bush Jr. He seemed to be likable (at first).
Well, thats not what i want in a President that has to make terrible important complicated decisions everyday. We had a "good ole boy" with Bush Jr. He seemed to be likable (at first).
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Clinton does that all the time. She excludes men on stage. She plays the gender card. That's disgusting.
3
Hillary has shown bad judgment as have we all. Trump has shown no signs of any judgment at all so far. It's highly unlikely that he will develop it at this age.
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Forget the highly, intelligent, capable Hillary Clinton who we now know can land a Muhammad Ali punch on her opponent, anyone and I mean anyone (!!!) is better than the terrifying, horrifying, vile, foul-mouthed, vengeful, clueless, empty-headed Trump.
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Never doubt it...America's problem this election is that there are so
many people who think te wretched GOP candidate is
acceptable among civilized people.
What have we become?
many people who think te wretched GOP candidate is
acceptable among civilized people.
What have we become?
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What we have become is a people who go to our military and our guns FIRST.
If we don't like a foreign leader, we assassinate them. Terrorists and state leaders alike.
We don't look at the measure of a man's character or intelligence: we look at his skin color, his sexuality, his connections. That is your America today.
We are spending $12 billion a day, to continue the ongoing wars that we elected Obama to get us out of. We are back fighting in Iraq, but by denying it, we can focus on silly news stories, like gorillas in zoos instead of the killings done abroad in our names.
Our churches and temples are ok with this.
The refugee camps are filling, and we are telling Europe to clean up and fix the problem.
Ms. Hillary Clinton helped architect the current Middle East and African spillover: from Libya to Iraq, from Syria to Afghanistan, our military is tearing it up good on the ground. No body can live there when our military is through dropping their loads.
This is who we have become today. If you want change, you need to vote out the longtime Washington politicians and the media that enables them. It is a matter of life and death, and right now America is choosing death and destruction over reason or diplomacy. And you wonder why Hillary Clinton's pretty words are not winning anyone over? She and Obama set the rule for this game, following George W. Bush's lead. They just aren't very good at force or violence or accomplishing anything via their kills.
If we don't like a foreign leader, we assassinate them. Terrorists and state leaders alike.
We don't look at the measure of a man's character or intelligence: we look at his skin color, his sexuality, his connections. That is your America today.
We are spending $12 billion a day, to continue the ongoing wars that we elected Obama to get us out of. We are back fighting in Iraq, but by denying it, we can focus on silly news stories, like gorillas in zoos instead of the killings done abroad in our names.
Our churches and temples are ok with this.
The refugee camps are filling, and we are telling Europe to clean up and fix the problem.
Ms. Hillary Clinton helped architect the current Middle East and African spillover: from Libya to Iraq, from Syria to Afghanistan, our military is tearing it up good on the ground. No body can live there when our military is through dropping their loads.
This is who we have become today. If you want change, you need to vote out the longtime Washington politicians and the media that enables them. It is a matter of life and death, and right now America is choosing death and destruction over reason or diplomacy. And you wonder why Hillary Clinton's pretty words are not winning anyone over? She and Obama set the rule for this game, following George W. Bush's lead. They just aren't very good at force or violence or accomplishing anything via their kills.
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Ms. Dowd, your sense of proportion has gone awry.
Clinton's email server issue is not in the same hemisphere as just about any of Trump's policy proposals on public display in his own words these last 6 months. Trump's divisive rants, erratic temperament, and irresponsible remarks inviting nuclear proliferation, default on America's debt, withdrawal from America's alliance system, etc. etc. disqualify him from holding any public office. Anywhere. Ever. Didn't you notice?
Whats going on here? Everybody in the media need to look real closely in the mirror about how they deal with this guy. You never held back before with the Bushes or with Obama. Are you afraid you won't get any more face to face interviews with Trump over the next 5 months if you don't keep playing footsie nicey nice with him?
Clinton's email server issue is not in the same hemisphere as just about any of Trump's policy proposals on public display in his own words these last 6 months. Trump's divisive rants, erratic temperament, and irresponsible remarks inviting nuclear proliferation, default on America's debt, withdrawal from America's alliance system, etc. etc. disqualify him from holding any public office. Anywhere. Ever. Didn't you notice?
Whats going on here? Everybody in the media need to look real closely in the mirror about how they deal with this guy. You never held back before with the Bushes or with Obama. Are you afraid you won't get any more face to face interviews with Trump over the next 5 months if you don't keep playing footsie nicey nice with him?
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As usual, Ms. Dowd, I'm sure Hillary appreciates your political savvy and valuable advice. I think though that Hillary is doing just fine, thank you very much.
Hillary's speech the other day and the cover story in the current New York Magazine is but the beginning of the emergence of the Hillary who many have never known. When they look at her history and the hurdles she has managed to clear throughout her adult life her opponent, an uncouth unstable thin-skinned chauvinistic jerk, will seem like small potatoes.
Men like Guiliani and Rick Lazio thought they would just roll over poor Hillary learned a lesson or two. One claimed to bow out of their Senate race for health reasons though that didn't stop him from running for president later on, and Lazio has been lost in history's dustbin. Both of them didn't come close to the despicable foe Hillary now faces.
This week was the pivot we longtime Hillary supporters have been waiting for. Before the California primary is called Hillary will already have garnered the delegates to put her over the top as the presumptive Democratic nominee. She will break bread with Sanders and President Obama will begin to campaign for her full bore.
Those who can't stop hating Hillary will continue to hold out hope that the most incompetent candidate short of Sarah Palin will win in November. That's not going to happen. Get used to it.
DD
Manhattan
Hillary's speech the other day and the cover story in the current New York Magazine is but the beginning of the emergence of the Hillary who many have never known. When they look at her history and the hurdles she has managed to clear throughout her adult life her opponent, an uncouth unstable thin-skinned chauvinistic jerk, will seem like small potatoes.
Men like Guiliani and Rick Lazio thought they would just roll over poor Hillary learned a lesson or two. One claimed to bow out of their Senate race for health reasons though that didn't stop him from running for president later on, and Lazio has been lost in history's dustbin. Both of them didn't come close to the despicable foe Hillary now faces.
This week was the pivot we longtime Hillary supporters have been waiting for. Before the California primary is called Hillary will already have garnered the delegates to put her over the top as the presumptive Democratic nominee. She will break bread with Sanders and President Obama will begin to campaign for her full bore.
Those who can't stop hating Hillary will continue to hold out hope that the most incompetent candidate short of Sarah Palin will win in November. That's not going to happen. Get used to it.
DD
Manhattan
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I I have never understood the uproar about Obama's "likable enough" comment regarding Hillary. I thought at the time, and still believe, that he was not denigrating Hillary, but rather the ridiculous notion that our presidents must be warm and fuzzy, beer swigging pals. He was actually supporting her by implying the idiocy of the standard. Am I the only one who gets this?
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PLEASE. Trump will be a piece of cake to trash and defeat.
Yes we have two of the most hated candidates by sizable
portions of the populace to ever run. But as you will soon
discover demographics will bury Mr. Trump and about
a dozen Republican senators with him.
Yes we have two of the most hated candidates by sizable
portions of the populace to ever run. But as you will soon
discover demographics will bury Mr. Trump and about
a dozen Republican senators with him.
4
Reminds me of Pauline Kael's immortal confession ca. 1972: "I can't believe Nixon won. Everyone I know voted for McGovern!"
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Ms. Dowd is absolutely correct. Ms. Clinton has to go on the attack. The question is whether her campaign is Seal Team 6 or the Keystone Kops.
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Ms. Dowd,
I have been impressed with Mrs. C she did a terrific job with the speech, even though she did not write it she delivered the speech with convincing sincerity and indeed her skills in lobbing his own jejunosity back to him was a grand slam performance. Recently, she interviewed at her teenage home in Chicago with Chris Cuomo and gave a soul-touching tribute to her Mother. It revealed to me that she has the capacity to be a great President. In many respects you two have much in common. You both seem to have a sense of human behavior that puts you far ahead of the intellectual establishment.
You already know that Mr. Trump would be a disaster, so I urge you to build a case for members of the GOP to go home and tell their constituents that for the common good they have decided to leave the GOP and become an Independent. Back at their seat in Congress, the Democratic Caucus would welcome them just as they have Mr. Sanders. Who will be a great VP.
This would instantly change the majority before the Conventions & permit the Congress to act on the barriers that are slowing the Congress. It would be a great opportunity for the Congress to educate the American public on the realities of our times. Americans are unhappy with their share of the economy and very unhappy with the opportunities they have to improve their standard of living.
These are very tough times for most and everyone is anxious about their future. It can be fixed with a stronger center.
I have been impressed with Mrs. C she did a terrific job with the speech, even though she did not write it she delivered the speech with convincing sincerity and indeed her skills in lobbing his own jejunosity back to him was a grand slam performance. Recently, she interviewed at her teenage home in Chicago with Chris Cuomo and gave a soul-touching tribute to her Mother. It revealed to me that she has the capacity to be a great President. In many respects you two have much in common. You both seem to have a sense of human behavior that puts you far ahead of the intellectual establishment.
You already know that Mr. Trump would be a disaster, so I urge you to build a case for members of the GOP to go home and tell their constituents that for the common good they have decided to leave the GOP and become an Independent. Back at their seat in Congress, the Democratic Caucus would welcome them just as they have Mr. Sanders. Who will be a great VP.
This would instantly change the majority before the Conventions & permit the Congress to act on the barriers that are slowing the Congress. It would be a great opportunity for the Congress to educate the American public on the realities of our times. Americans are unhappy with their share of the economy and very unhappy with the opportunities they have to improve their standard of living.
These are very tough times for most and everyone is anxious about their future. It can be fixed with a stronger center.
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I used to read this column and gain insight from it. Lately, not so much. To equate the recklessness of Clinton and Trump is absurd in the extreme. It's also irresponsible journalism. On Hillary Clinton, Maureen Dowd is far too biased to write anything of great depth or insight. She rehashes the same narrative about the Clintons, which, come on ... is old and based on the premise that Hillary Clinton is frozen in her 1990s character and understanding of things. And the light touch with Trump? This week was a turning point. This column misses that almost altogether.
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"The Benghazi committee, which was set up in May 2014, has been operational for longer than the 9/11 Commission was. It has dragged on longer than congressional investigations into the attack on Pearl Harbor, the assassination of President Kennedy, Watergate, the Iran-contra scandal, the 1983 bombing that killed 241 American service members in Beirut and the response to Hurricane Katrina."......While the bogus email "investigation" creates yet another diversion for mighty Mo to point to, all the while hinting that Daffy Donald is really just a loveable cut up who once elected will reveal the informed serious responsible leader of the free world that he truly is.
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Birds of a feather flock together. Maxine Waters is another politician who should be in jail.
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Concerning Irak, a presidente, a vicepresident, a commander in chief, and a secretary of state presented facts and evidences. What could a member of congress do but to trust these highly respectable men, all Republican, by the way? And now Republicans and Resent-fulls accuse a member of congress for following their lead? A lead that they seem to have cooked up, as it turned out later on. But at the time many , and the UK, followed the lead. It had well been well cooked-up.
And it would be nice to know how Maureen keeps up with her own venom.
And it would be nice to know how Maureen keeps up with her own venom.
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Dowd, you are so right.
Clinton is reckless. Her foreign and domestic policy positions are vague on specifics as are Trump's, just more artfully "finessed." Her faux foreign policy speech was catnip for the anti-Trumpsters but will have no effect on the undecided, the Sanders supports, or current Trumpsters. Her liabilities remain unaddressed by her and her team; ad hominum misdirection won't help to mitigate them.
That the Republican foreign policy establishment are lining up behind her is huge cause for concern, as we deal daily with the consequences of their tragic errors in judgement.
Clinton is reckless. Her foreign and domestic policy positions are vague on specifics as are Trump's, just more artfully "finessed." Her faux foreign policy speech was catnip for the anti-Trumpsters but will have no effect on the undecided, the Sanders supports, or current Trumpsters. Her liabilities remain unaddressed by her and her team; ad hominum misdirection won't help to mitigate them.
That the Republican foreign policy establishment are lining up behind her is huge cause for concern, as we deal daily with the consequences of their tragic errors in judgement.
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The further this Election Campaign gets toward the finale, the weirder it gets.
1
Combination of viciousness and playfulness is well put. And - the stakes of this election aside - the question of what works against Trump is a fascinating one that can teach us a lot about masculinity, femininity, and dominance.
3
Sigh. Yet another op-ed column full of sound and fury, signifying nothing; hopping from this to that to t'other with no more coherence than a Trumpet speech. I watched Ms. Clinton's "foreign policy" speech with great interest. It set forth the differences between Trump's ideas and sanity with significant clarity, painfully demonstrating the yawning chasm between the two.
I also watched the Jake Tapper interview with equal interest. I "learned" that the civil action against Trump U. should've been dismissed in summary judgment, and that the judge was motivated by Trumpet's "wall". I learned both about 15 times in 7 minutes, very much like a frantic salesman determined to close the sale without regard to objections from the prospect.
I start off each day hoping that "today will be the day" when the whole of the American citizenry wakes up to the unpleasant reality that Trump is a hustler, nothing more, and might even reflect upon the mystery of how he got so far as he has. If such a "day of reflection" were to come, the citizenry may well reach the correct conclusion: decades of viciously expressed, narrow-minded self righteousness from the party he now represents.
I'm an optimist by nature, and believe such a day will come before it's too late.
I also watched the Jake Tapper interview with equal interest. I "learned" that the civil action against Trump U. should've been dismissed in summary judgment, and that the judge was motivated by Trumpet's "wall". I learned both about 15 times in 7 minutes, very much like a frantic salesman determined to close the sale without regard to objections from the prospect.
I start off each day hoping that "today will be the day" when the whole of the American citizenry wakes up to the unpleasant reality that Trump is a hustler, nothing more, and might even reflect upon the mystery of how he got so far as he has. If such a "day of reflection" were to come, the citizenry may well reach the correct conclusion: decades of viciously expressed, narrow-minded self righteousness from the party he now represents.
I'm an optimist by nature, and believe such a day will come before it's too late.
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Ms. Dowd, you always seem to choose your critique and target based on whatever will offer you the better opportunity for too-witty-by-half wordplay. This is what gives your regular column its vapid, petty and often cruel tone. And in giving equal space to Clinton's acknowledged political negatives and Trump's republic-threatening galactic inappropriateness for our nation's highest office, it reeks of the false-equivalence that has gotten our body politic to this point. In any case, before you tease someone for the misspelling in their tweets, you should make sure you know how to spell the word 'tweeted'!
17
At this point likability is no longer the deciding factor. Everyone I know, Republican and Democrat, is voting for Clinton. It is the only rational choice.
13
I wish Lin Miranda was running.
Now, that would be real entertainment.
With a responsible sense of history.
Now, that would be real entertainment.
With a responsible sense of history.
4
I'm kind of tired of how you characterize Hillary as "tart-tongued" and "plodding." I guess maybe you think you've over-used the word "shrill." I'm still waiting to find out what the Clintons did to you to make you so snide about them.
But this one time I'm giving you a pass, because of the word "jejunosity" and the quote from Lin-Manuel Miranda. Thanks for those.
But this one time I'm giving you a pass, because of the word "jejunosity" and the quote from Lin-Manuel Miranda. Thanks for those.
2
The Clintons did the same to Ms. Dowd as they did to me and all native-born patriots:
They besmirched and demeaned the White House, the vaunted "Rule of Law" that Trump curiously gets blamed for by NYT and "scholars," and then 99% of the Democrat Party -- excepting bete noir Christopher Hitchens -- then bloviated that it was "only about sex," not perjury, a frozen sperm'd dress, & a poorly-used gynecologist's daughter from that haven of Populists, Beverly Hills. (Bill as Jed, high on Texas tea, fresh from the Ozarks, in the hills of Beverly... The FBI said, "Bill, get away from here!")
"Only about sex" is analogous to now claiming the Chappaqua Email Scandal is only about broadband, disk space, and graphic accelerators, not Nixonian paranoia and illegal evasions of FOIA requests for a 2-year period.
Give it up, Democrat criminal apologists. We're sick of it.
They besmirched and demeaned the White House, the vaunted "Rule of Law" that Trump curiously gets blamed for by NYT and "scholars," and then 99% of the Democrat Party -- excepting bete noir Christopher Hitchens -- then bloviated that it was "only about sex," not perjury, a frozen sperm'd dress, & a poorly-used gynecologist's daughter from that haven of Populists, Beverly Hills. (Bill as Jed, high on Texas tea, fresh from the Ozarks, in the hills of Beverly... The FBI said, "Bill, get away from here!")
"Only about sex" is analogous to now claiming the Chappaqua Email Scandal is only about broadband, disk space, and graphic accelerators, not Nixonian paranoia and illegal evasions of FOIA requests for a 2-year period.
Give it up, Democrat criminal apologists. We're sick of it.
2
C'mon, Hilary, choose Sanders as your running mate so all of the good Democrats who are shouting "Bernie or Bust"- and are apparently willing to let President Trump flush this country right down the drain- will be sufficiently mollified.
8
I once advocated for Senator Sanders to be VP to Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton when she is elected President. No more. She needs an advocate, not someone who will constantly attack her, and it is in OUR best interests that she chooses a man who will work effectively with her. Some men, including Senator Reid, want her to select Senator Elizabeth Warren as a running mate. I love and admire Senator Warren but the fact is that two powerful women cannot share power at that level yet and Senator Warren will be much more valuable as Senate Majority Leader and future President.
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"Two for the price of one" means Hill & Bill, not Bernie, Stu. They're writing, or already have written, Bernie's political obituary at WaPo and 20 others even as we speak. All he can be is the GOP's Fifth Column after Tuesday in California, as the DNC ordained.
I like Elizabeth Warren for it; an unusual but stunning choice; it would also show that Hillary doesn't mind being outshone by a sharp brilliant mind and speaker. But I agree with njglea that she will likely make the political calculation and choose a man, perhaps a moderate. The moderate part, to my mind, would be a mistake.
4
Way to not talk about issues again, Maureen. By now, you can't help yourself, can you?
14
No different than Hilary going off the rails in her much-ballyhooed "First Foreign Policy speech," with TWO teleprompters! Much too angry, and not a word about her many Sec of State failures, and left many serious Foreign Policy types in D.C. and Academe, and of course "her" State Dept., flummoxed.
2
How interesting that Sally Fields made more rational comments than Ms. Dowd on this topic. Ms. Fields is exactly right - we do not need a "likable" candidate, whatever that would be...it's a meaningless descriptor, which seems to fly right past Ms. Dowd. And how spot on Ms. Fields is with her comment that women have struggled for too long to be rightly perceived as equal to men, to have to now revert back to the "nice little lady" role. Ms. Clinton may be charming and nice in her private life, or she may be cold and hard and calculating...I don't know and I don't care. What I see, and want to see, is her skill in dealing with real issues and real people; Donnie is a disgusting distraction, like dog poo on your shoe - you do have to stop and clean it off, but then you can go on your way. That is what Hillary is doing, scraping away the offensive smell, then she will do what she has proven she is capable of - dealing with our society's issues, global matters and domestic.
14
Her record is in.
Please stop talking about Hillary Clinton as if she will be a breath of fresh air.
Look at Libya, Syria, Egypt. Look at the diplomatic and military successess, or lack thereof, on her watch as Sec. of State.
She is like the girl with perfect attendance at school. She wants to tell us about the time and miles she put in, but she does not want to talk about her grades/the record she compiled when she got off the planes and went to work.
She did not accomplish anything that I would like to see repeated in the next 4 or 8 years. Donald Trump however has a clean political slate, and a good eye at identifying the issues that matter to realistic American voters. (Secure borders, back off the military overkill abroad, address our own gang problems of lawlessness, feed and educate our own here at home first, etc etc.)
Keep hollering about Hitler and racism and nuclear war to distract Americans from the civil wars building up here at home, and the wars we are exporting to Europe, Africa, Latin America, etc.
America does not win by causing troubles or exploiting troubles in neighboring countries or those our planes can reach and destroy. When we are done destroying, where will all the displaced people go? Is there room on that ranch in Texas or does the Clinton Foundation have a plan for cleaning up what she helped to break?
Please stop talking about Hillary Clinton as if she will be a breath of fresh air.
Look at Libya, Syria, Egypt. Look at the diplomatic and military successess, or lack thereof, on her watch as Sec. of State.
She is like the girl with perfect attendance at school. She wants to tell us about the time and miles she put in, but she does not want to talk about her grades/the record she compiled when she got off the planes and went to work.
She did not accomplish anything that I would like to see repeated in the next 4 or 8 years. Donald Trump however has a clean political slate, and a good eye at identifying the issues that matter to realistic American voters. (Secure borders, back off the military overkill abroad, address our own gang problems of lawlessness, feed and educate our own here at home first, etc etc.)
Keep hollering about Hitler and racism and nuclear war to distract Americans from the civil wars building up here at home, and the wars we are exporting to Europe, Africa, Latin America, etc.
America does not win by causing troubles or exploiting troubles in neighboring countries or those our planes can reach and destroy. When we are done destroying, where will all the displaced people go? Is there room on that ranch in Texas or does the Clinton Foundation have a plan for cleaning up what she helped to break?
7
I guess this means that Maureen will Uber over to Trump Tower this week to sit in his office, nursing a Starbucks, to record his surreal prevarications... No disrespect to HRC, mind you, all in the interest of journalistic "integrity".
8
In the rhetorical battle between Jefferson and Adams, Jefferson comes off as having a very sharp with, and Adams comes across as an white racist.
Here is the exchange. Jefferson said of Adams: "[He has a] hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
Adams said this of Jefferson: "[He is a] mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
Now you tell me whom you would rather have a beer with.
Here is the exchange. Jefferson said of Adams: "[He has a] hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
Adams said this of Jefferson: "[He is a] mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
Now you tell me whom you would rather have a beer with.
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Its no secret, Hillary is Hollywood's favorite politician. The Clintons entertained a lot of Hollywood and musicians back in the days.
Here's an older list, many more are on it who are not as vocal but send in money for sure http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-stars-for-hillary-clinton-list/
and
https://www.romper.com/p/which-celebrities-back-hillary-clinton-shes-a-h...
Similarly, Silicon Valley is backing Hillary, the rich and the wealthy, especially Indians and Chinese. No secret there too.
So Hillary has no choice but to do really well in CA, because of Hollywood in So Cal and Silicon Valley in the north.
Here's an older list, many more are on it who are not as vocal but send in money for sure http://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-stars-for-hillary-clinton-list/
and
https://www.romper.com/p/which-celebrities-back-hillary-clinton-shes-a-h...
Similarly, Silicon Valley is backing Hillary, the rich and the wealthy, especially Indians and Chinese. No secret there too.
So Hillary has no choice but to do really well in CA, because of Hollywood in So Cal and Silicon Valley in the north.
3
Only the corporate titans and the secretarial pool are supporters of Establishment Hillary. The wunderkinder like Zuckerberg can not afford to lose Billion$ in personal wealth for Bernie's unfunded $17 trillion spending blowout.
The lesser mortals -- we happy few -- is either for Bernie, or Donald, esp. the always-conservative Asians for the latter, who are 30% of the population here.
The lesser mortals -- we happy few -- is either for Bernie, or Donald, esp. the always-conservative Asians for the latter, who are 30% of the population here.
3
Crazy indeed. You have Hillary, and her private email server that was no doubt hacked by just about everyone - imagine thousands of her emails released a week before the election by North Korea - and then you have Trump, who may or may not be certifiably insane. What a choice.
3
US Government server hacked, 21.5 million hurt: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/10/01/21-5-milli...
State Department server hacked: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/state-department-hack-worst-ever/
A busy woman had her people serve her convenience, It was an error in judgment; read the documents.
Meanwhile, nobody is secure.
State Department server hacked: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/state-department-hack-worst-ever/
A busy woman had her people serve her convenience, It was an error in judgment; read the documents.
Meanwhile, nobody is secure.
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Wow.
This article in Dowd world, is an over-the-top endorsement of HRC!
This article in Dowd world, is an over-the-top endorsement of HRC!
3
That historical footnote about Adams and Jefferson was hysterical.
Was it true about Adams?
Was it true about Adams?
Jeez. Just think if the notes coming back from the BBC had said "Make Jane Tennyson (Helen Mirren oo Prime Suspect) more likeable."
2
It is abundantly clear that Obama was being facetious years back when he described Hillary as "likeable enough".....what's there to like about a moderate republican when the party base is looking for a progressive democrat?
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Sally Fields is absolutely right when she says. “And c’mon. Honestly. Women have spent the last hundred years trying to get out from under the expectation that they had to be sugar and spice and everything nice. We don’t need sugar and spice and everything nice.” Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton is not trying to be anyone's BFF. She is campaigning to be OUR next President of the United States of America and she is the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL CAPITAL. SHE has my vote.
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I keep thinking about the phrase, "...... damning with faint praise".
Do we want to describe any past, present or future U.S. President as, "nice" ?
Do we want to describe any past, present or future U.S. President as, "nice" ?
9
Beatrice,
Jimmy Carter is one of or finest living Americans.
I think the words Kind & Nice are nothing to scoff at.
Those words certainly wouldn't fit well with a Nixon, nor a Hill.
Of course, if you think her admiration for Kissinger (wanted for war crimes) makes a positive reason to vote for her: go for it.
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
Jimmy Carter is one of or finest living Americans.
I think the words Kind & Nice are nothing to scoff at.
Those words certainly wouldn't fit well with a Nixon, nor a Hill.
Of course, if you think her admiration for Kissinger (wanted for war crimes) makes a positive reason to vote for her: go for it.
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
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God and/or Mother Nature made Mexicans, Muslims, hermaphrodites, Republicans, Democrats, lesbians, gays, Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jews, Africans, Europeans, Asians, Americans and Buddhists because they both have a sense of humor, empathy and irony.
Masking our one biological DNA genetic evolutionary human humane unIfied quest for sugar, fat, salt, water, habitat, sex and kin behind a plethora of colors, ethnicities, faiths, national origins and politics still fools most of God's children most of the time about our meaningful divisions. Too many tears, too much sweat and too much blood shed over our frail animal vertebrate mammal primate ape faults in a universe that human hubris deigns was created and chosen just for our use and abuse.
John Adams was an ape. And while the bonobos and the gorillas resent the slur, the chimpanzees say "Right on!"
Masking our one biological DNA genetic evolutionary human humane unIfied quest for sugar, fat, salt, water, habitat, sex and kin behind a plethora of colors, ethnicities, faiths, national origins and politics still fools most of God's children most of the time about our meaningful divisions. Too many tears, too much sweat and too much blood shed over our frail animal vertebrate mammal primate ape faults in a universe that human hubris deigns was created and chosen just for our use and abuse.
John Adams was an ape. And while the bonobos and the gorillas resent the slur, the chimpanzees say "Right on!"
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The email scandal - at one point Hillary even denied using her own personal server - shows her to be either arrogant (I'm too important to follow the rules) or incompetent and certainly untruthful. That and the fact she urged the Libyan war on the president without thinking through what would happen after Gaddafi was toppled says it all about Hillary's competency as Secretary of State.
Whether the public "likes" her or not, Wall Street certainly does. They've made her a very rich women and the Queen of crony capitalism.
Whether the public "likes" her or not, Wall Street certainly does. They've made her a very rich women and the Queen of crony capitalism.
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Her refusal to cooperate with the State Department's internal investigator is inexcusable.
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By the way, she, Bill and Chelsea have become fabulously rich by acting at helping the poor and oppressed.
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I teach in a major east coast university, and am a full bore Democrat. The president there felt comfortable enough to make a semi-nasty crack about the Republicans to a full faculty assembly, and true to form they all laughed with him. Say what? Who is he that he felt safe to exclude 1/2 the country's views and did so in his official capacity as university representative? Where were the boos? Does not "university" mean many into one literally? Academia is not inclusive or tolerant of diverse views: that's divisive and anti-education, anti-intellectual, teaches our kids intolerance, and divides the country. Then they lament the divide as they build the wall higher.
Reading comments here, many NYTimes readers, too, are intolerant of any divergence from the party line: that is neither liberal nor progressive. It is socialist/semi-totalitarian: speak one way or be banished. It is just as toxic and anti-intellectual as the far right. They are mirror images of each other and are both fools.
Dowd is trying to open your minds here, and you shout her down because its not the party line. Welcome to Maoist America. Harvard wants to ban single-sex club members from campus leadership positions: intolerance from the Left is as bad as from the Right. Worse, because the Left masquerades as tolerant whereas the Right makes no such pretense at inclusion.
Reading comments here, many NYTimes readers, too, are intolerant of any divergence from the party line: that is neither liberal nor progressive. It is socialist/semi-totalitarian: speak one way or be banished. It is just as toxic and anti-intellectual as the far right. They are mirror images of each other and are both fools.
Dowd is trying to open your minds here, and you shout her down because its not the party line. Welcome to Maoist America. Harvard wants to ban single-sex club members from campus leadership positions: intolerance from the Left is as bad as from the Right. Worse, because the Left masquerades as tolerant whereas the Right makes no such pretense at inclusion.
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For Marian,
Perforce. A link to an article which debunks your long-ago debunked slander about Clinton, this time from the guy on the Watergate commission who didn't like anyone it seems, who wasn't her boss, and accused her of things which it would have been impossible for a young lawyer with her job to have done.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
Perforce. A link to an article which debunks your long-ago debunked slander about Clinton, this time from the guy on the Watergate commission who didn't like anyone it seems, who wasn't her boss, and accused her of things which it would have been impossible for a young lawyer with her job to have done.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
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Marian has revealed herself to be, as I have long thought, a former Republican supporter of Bernie. Whether this is an example of what I suspect is not uncommon or an honest switch I don't know.
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A solid 20% of Bernie supporters say in several polls they will vote for Trump.
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Susan and winchestereast:
I am a resolute foe of Hillary Clinton. This has nothing to do with ideology. I have followed the Clintons for more than 2 decades selling out this country and enriching themselves. I find them repugnant and dangerous.
As for the Watergate matter, I have read Snopes and have heard Zeifman talk about the Rodham/Watergate-Committee matter. Everything I post is consistent with his recounting of events.
BTW, read the qualification on the Snopes site. They are not the sine qua non source.
That someone as flawed as Trump may very likely defeat Clinton tell you what a defective candidate she is. Although I am not a socialist, I favor Bernie over Hillary because I believe she is an existential threat to this country.
I am a resolute foe of Hillary Clinton. This has nothing to do with ideology. I have followed the Clintons for more than 2 decades selling out this country and enriching themselves. I find them repugnant and dangerous.
As for the Watergate matter, I have read Snopes and have heard Zeifman talk about the Rodham/Watergate-Committee matter. Everything I post is consistent with his recounting of events.
BTW, read the qualification on the Snopes site. They are not the sine qua non source.
That someone as flawed as Trump may very likely defeat Clinton tell you what a defective candidate she is. Although I am not a socialist, I favor Bernie over Hillary because I believe she is an existential threat to this country.
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We get it. You like schmoozing with the orange dumpster fire of vanity, and you are fond of trashing "Barry" and the Clintons. It's not reasoned argument, it's entertainment.
Tastes differ: I think he's ugly and obnoxious in the extreme. Wrapping these arguments in distorted interpretation of each hyperventilated item in the Trump/Bernieworld list of Hillary's sins doesn't legitimize it. Exaggeration and rockstar crowds are popular, but they are not wise.
Happily, here we have a variety of Readers' Picks that take the wrappers off this nonsense.
Tastes differ: I think he's ugly and obnoxious in the extreme. Wrapping these arguments in distorted interpretation of each hyperventilated item in the Trump/Bernieworld list of Hillary's sins doesn't legitimize it. Exaggeration and rockstar crowds are popular, but they are not wise.
Happily, here we have a variety of Readers' Picks that take the wrappers off this nonsense.
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I should mention that I love Bernie and think he's made some fine contributions, and there are a good few things about Hillary that worry me: her position on fracking is ambiguous, which *could* be excused because none of us will put up with not having enough cheap energy, stupid us, but one can hope with her climate resources she will get better about this. Bernie's choice of Bill McKibben was spot on. Kissinger is a monster, and even if he has good contacts that old dinosaur should not be given a stage any more. The big money stuff needs more daylight; it's not that Democrats should unilaterally disarm in the face of the Roves and Kochtopus, but clarity would help, and the Clinton Foundation does a lot of good. The early vote on Iraq was a blooper, but once again it's been distorted. She is not going to jail for bad judgment on the email server, and government servers are demonstrably not more secure than private ones. I will be supporting Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's opponent, and wish politics were not so opaque.
So all in all, I have hopes that Hillary will prove quite wise, and think Bernie's oversimplified condemnations and surrogates Obama-hater Cornel West and dissing the wonderful Barney Frank and excellent Governor Malloy show lack of judgment.
Sadly, the world doesn't agree with me about how awful screaming rockstar crowds are as an indicator of what is good in the world.
So all in all, I have hopes that Hillary will prove quite wise, and think Bernie's oversimplified condemnations and surrogates Obama-hater Cornel West and dissing the wonderful Barney Frank and excellent Governor Malloy show lack of judgment.
Sadly, the world doesn't agree with me about how awful screaming rockstar crowds are as an indicator of what is good in the world.
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Bernie has about 55 hours before his Little Engine That Could derails, no matter how well he does in the People's Republic of Mexifornia, amigo. I look forward to his rioting mobs at the DNC Philly slugfest, they were loco in the cabeza here when rioting on Friday. In Philly that's nothing untoward, based on my years there.
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Don't blame Bernie for those guys. They were independent. It's the Trumpians who will riot and go for their guns.
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I want to say, can it, with the easy hits in HRC, as if her sometimes clumsy campaigning is somehow comparable to the Trump garbage which flows.
That Tapper interview -- whew- Why does no one tell Trump that they will not AIR his unsupported opinions of a judge, which come down to - "I don't like abiding by the law and will relentlessly attack anyone who doesn't support me" - and with anything that comes to mind, including blatant (and stupid) bigotry. 99% of the sluts, salacious stuff and eggs flying are from Trump.
The only amusement in this is that Anthony Weiner himself is so lacking on savvy that he would tweet an equally stupid comment in return for being mentioned.
Altho' perhaps, Miranda has it -- let's start a rumor that Trump is a hermaphrodite - it should keep him in full defense until after the election.
That Tapper interview -- whew- Why does no one tell Trump that they will not AIR his unsupported opinions of a judge, which come down to - "I don't like abiding by the law and will relentlessly attack anyone who doesn't support me" - and with anything that comes to mind, including blatant (and stupid) bigotry. 99% of the sluts, salacious stuff and eggs flying are from Trump.
The only amusement in this is that Anthony Weiner himself is so lacking on savvy that he would tweet an equally stupid comment in return for being mentioned.
Altho' perhaps, Miranda has it -- let's start a rumor that Trump is a hermaphrodite - it should keep him in full defense until after the election.
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Every pundit says Hillary's speech punching Trump out was great, that she's finally found her way. Every pundit has been wrong about Trump all year long. We haven't seen the latest polls yet. What if his numbers go up? A wise pundit would hold the congratulations a few more days. But we don't have many wise pundits.
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The night she gave that speech, what did the rest of the country see on tv?
People are discounting the violence at ALL the recent Trump rallies. But the nation is watching, and we are not voting for those who do not support the rule of law.
If this keeps up, both Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton cannot lead because they cannot control their violent followers. Trump uses words, those people were using bloody fists and objects to hurt others. Were they all American citizens? We don't know, but we saw what we saw...
People are discounting the violence at ALL the recent Trump rallies. But the nation is watching, and we are not voting for those who do not support the rule of law.
If this keeps up, both Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton cannot lead because they cannot control their violent followers. Trump uses words, those people were using bloody fists and objects to hurt others. Were they all American citizens? We don't know, but we saw what we saw...
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Trump is not psychologically stable. Everyone can see that. Some just choose to ignore it. Those are the people I am worried about.
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Hillary has repeatedly violated federal law. Everyone can see that. Some just choose to ignore it. Those are the people I am worried about.
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Watch Hillary on "This Week" and tell us how stable that performance is. Facial tics, grimaces, bulging eyes, laser glare, lips pneumatically pursed. Lots to work with there for a Behavioral Psychologist, or a US Attorney.
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I'm worried, Ron, about the people and police in California who think it is normal to chase down old people, young people, unarmed people, all white people, and bash them for who they support politically. That's third-world behavior.
Is that what passes for civilization in California now? God help you if you let the thugs out like that, battering people on election day. Take down the American flag if that is how California is now...
Is that what passes for civilization in California now? God help you if you let the thugs out like that, battering people on election day. Take down the American flag if that is how California is now...
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Hey Mo,
"...a hilarious performance of 'The Taming of the Shrew'...? Really? It ain't hilarious at all. It is small consolation to find a laugh there. It is tough gallows humor. The card-carrying Rs are trying to complete a probably impossible work. Think it is titled "Hiding Hyde." They have been trying it since after-Atwater. Inevitably, with time these things break the basement floor concrete and invite themselves back. You are a journalist-commentator. Check it out. Comment.
"...a hilarious performance of 'The Taming of the Shrew'...? Really? It ain't hilarious at all. It is small consolation to find a laugh there. It is tough gallows humor. The card-carrying Rs are trying to complete a probably impossible work. Think it is titled "Hiding Hyde." They have been trying it since after-Atwater. Inevitably, with time these things break the basement floor concrete and invite themselves back. You are a journalist-commentator. Check it out. Comment.
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Right now, Grover Norchrist is trashing Obama for spending big numbers without bringing backache job market.
Does George Stenphanopolis straighten him out with some facts?
Like Cheney-bush handing Obama the Second Great Depression and the Norchrist GOP responding loudly, proudly with: "obstruction and NO!"???
Does George point out that Obama converted the Depression to Recession, despite GOP obstruction? That we are ahead of schedule on typical recovery from Depression?
NO!NO!NO!
The so-called liberal press has allowed the GOP to cover up their errors with lies and rants!
Come on Press! When someone lies- hit them! Let the chips fall on both sides. But do your job!
Does George Stenphanopolis straighten him out with some facts?
Like Cheney-bush handing Obama the Second Great Depression and the Norchrist GOP responding loudly, proudly with: "obstruction and NO!"???
Does George point out that Obama converted the Depression to Recession, despite GOP obstruction? That we are ahead of schedule on typical recovery from Depression?
NO!NO!NO!
The so-called liberal press has allowed the GOP to cover up their errors with lies and rants!
Come on Press! When someone lies- hit them! Let the chips fall on both sides. But do your job!
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The truth is, there are no jobs.
We've eliminated the flab in the job market, and sent home those who gave up looking or settled for lesser part time employment.
The numbers do not lie.
The country has not come out of the recession that Obama steered us into, because he was so intent on protecting the Big Banks, and big donors, from the consequences of a true national depression, which they created.
We bailed out the biggies, and they are back, bigger than ever.
We are at war with the world, and we are losing.
But the prez still has that black skin, though dusky, and so the white elite media today can not touch him. That's why you see white folk being bloodied in the streets, as if that were the new normal. It's not.
Hillary Clinton will not be elected as Commander-in-Chief. The black people will not turn out for her like they did for Him, and the economy and wars are catching up with the establishment politicians. There's more hurt to come, but sometimes a little pain saves lives in the long run.
We've got a lot of lives that need saving, and guess what? THey are not all black.
We've eliminated the flab in the job market, and sent home those who gave up looking or settled for lesser part time employment.
The numbers do not lie.
The country has not come out of the recession that Obama steered us into, because he was so intent on protecting the Big Banks, and big donors, from the consequences of a true national depression, which they created.
We bailed out the biggies, and they are back, bigger than ever.
We are at war with the world, and we are losing.
But the prez still has that black skin, though dusky, and so the white elite media today can not touch him. That's why you see white folk being bloodied in the streets, as if that were the new normal. It's not.
Hillary Clinton will not be elected as Commander-in-Chief. The black people will not turn out for her like they did for Him, and the economy and wars are catching up with the establishment politicians. There's more hurt to come, but sometimes a little pain saves lives in the long run.
We've got a lot of lives that need saving, and guess what? THey are not all black.
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"My God, can anyone ever imagine Hillary Clinton gleefully mocking a disabled person?"—mike vogel NYC
Clinton is notorious for her callous disregard/mocking/exploitation of the vulnerable.
At 27, she defended a 41-y-o rapist of a 12-y-o girl. According to victim & supported by U of AR Clinton archives tapes, she knew he did it, got him off w/ lies/evidence tampering. Later laughed about it–all caught on tape
A snippet–"I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs. (laughs)"
KARMA
America's forewarning about HRC 42 yrs ago was, in retrospect, one of the high points of modern historical irony.
At 27, she was on the staff of the Watergate committee investigating Nixon. Because of her ethical lapses that included habitual lying/attempted concealment of docs/conspiring to violate Constitution, rules of House/committee/confidentiality, she was declined a recommendation by lifelong D, Jerry Zeifman. He recently stated his only regret is not having reported her to Bar
Historical irony shocks us out of our complacencies, forces us to confront our fears, makes us remember our obligations, reminds us who we are
But an awareness of historical irony requires critical thinking, honest reflection, virtually nonexistent today in this era of disinformation/reflexive response–140 characters–max.
If we are to repair a country weakened by dangerously unfit leaders, we must, all of us, recognize that ironic warning 42 yrs. ago & heed it.
Clinton is notorious for her callous disregard/mocking/exploitation of the vulnerable.
At 27, she defended a 41-y-o rapist of a 12-y-o girl. According to victim & supported by U of AR Clinton archives tapes, she knew he did it, got him off w/ lies/evidence tampering. Later laughed about it–all caught on tape
A snippet–"I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs. (laughs)"
KARMA
America's forewarning about HRC 42 yrs ago was, in retrospect, one of the high points of modern historical irony.
At 27, she was on the staff of the Watergate committee investigating Nixon. Because of her ethical lapses that included habitual lying/attempted concealment of docs/conspiring to violate Constitution, rules of House/committee/confidentiality, she was declined a recommendation by lifelong D, Jerry Zeifman. He recently stated his only regret is not having reported her to Bar
Historical irony shocks us out of our complacencies, forces us to confront our fears, makes us remember our obligations, reminds us who we are
But an awareness of historical irony requires critical thinking, honest reflection, virtually nonexistent today in this era of disinformation/reflexive response–140 characters–max.
If we are to repair a country weakened by dangerously unfit leaders, we must, all of us, recognize that ironic warning 42 yrs. ago & heed it.
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Clinton was required to defend the accused rapist by a Judge who selected her from the attorneys at the law clinic where she worked. After the case, in which the prosecution failed to maintain and use the credible evidence against the man, Hillary started the first ever assault victim hot-line and center in Arkansas.
Decades later she gave a laugh, a snort of disbelief that the system in which she believed and on which we rely, had not been more severe in judging her client.
Please get your facts straight before posting.
Decades later she gave a laugh, a snort of disbelief that the system in which she believed and on which we rely, had not been more severe in judging her client.
Please get your facts straight before posting.
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@Marian,
The late Bill Safaire called her a congenital liar on this very op-ed pages of NYT.
Here's a url for those interested to read it.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/08/opinion/essay-blizzard-of-lies.html
The late Bill Safaire called her a congenital liar on this very op-ed pages of NYT.
Here's a url for those interested to read it.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/08/opinion/essay-blizzard-of-lies.html
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The Watergate story regarding Clinton has been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked as a right-wing fabrication. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp
This story currently only circulates on wingnut websites where facts don't matter.
This story currently only circulates on wingnut websites where facts don't matter.
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I guess Ms Dowd writes these ridiculous columns to boost her ratings just as the TV networks do. Does this make her part of the "sleaze" her big Daddy goofball friend talked about last week?
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"Donald Trump’s peculiar combination of viciousness and playfulness."?
Remember when Reagan said during an off-air slip, "the bombing of the USSR starts now"...or words to that effect. John McCain sang the beach boys hit, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran". There's a big difference between these men and Trump. They were joking...kidding. They were not being serious. Do you understand that, Ms. Dowd?
Donald Trump is a psychotic egotist, and you want to play, "he said, she said". Donald did say, "I have a very good brain". So when he brings back Jim Crow in the south or internment camps for Mexicans and Muslims, can we count on a column from you titled, "It's OK folks, relax, he has a very good brain."
Remember when Reagan said during an off-air slip, "the bombing of the USSR starts now"...or words to that effect. John McCain sang the beach boys hit, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran". There's a big difference between these men and Trump. They were joking...kidding. They were not being serious. Do you understand that, Ms. Dowd?
Donald Trump is a psychotic egotist, and you want to play, "he said, she said". Donald did say, "I have a very good brain". So when he brings back Jim Crow in the south or internment camps for Mexicans and Muslims, can we count on a column from you titled, "It's OK folks, relax, he has a very good brain."
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He's not going to "bring back Jim Crow in the South."
But he is going to distinguish between American citizens and those who are not.
Do you really have a problem with this? If so, please renounce your citizenship and exchange home countries with one of our more recent, non-citizen arrivals...
The rest of us understand the importance of national borders and respecting the rule of law. We do not want America to become a third-world country, especially those who immigrated legally and who understand what living with no rule of law entails.
Viva Trump!
But he is going to distinguish between American citizens and those who are not.
Do you really have a problem with this? If so, please renounce your citizenship and exchange home countries with one of our more recent, non-citizen arrivals...
The rest of us understand the importance of national borders and respecting the rule of law. We do not want America to become a third-world country, especially those who immigrated legally and who understand what living with no rule of law entails.
Viva Trump!
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In this case, it is a great irony is that all slurs directed at Trump are visibly and demonstrably true. He is a closet bigot, serial liar, egotist, narcissist, and bully. He lives in a knowledge free world of his own imagination.
It is sufficient to replay his rants to prove these points. No exaggeration is needed.
It is sufficient to replay his rants to prove these points. No exaggeration is needed.
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Truth is, he is more gay-friendly than the Clinton's, with their Don't Ask Don't Tell policies that only allowed the gays who denied themselves to serve.
The top Army guy now must have come in under this policy: he is a pretty white boy, but clearly he had no problem hiding who he was to advance himself. Mrs. Clinton is like that too.
The top Army guy now must have come in under this policy: he is a pretty white boy, but clearly he had no problem hiding who he was to advance himself. Mrs. Clinton is like that too.
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Just Thinking: You are right on all counts re Trump except one. You call him a "closet bigot". Wrong!! He is an out and out bigot without shame. He has not tried to hide his bigotry.
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What you call bigotry, some of us call common sense.
If the wife of the American-born, California-workplace killer radicalized him, shouldn't we be screening the incoming Muslims better? Who was she exactly? It was an arranged marriage: who sent her here?
Isn't it fair to stop admitting people who are potentially killers like her, until we can vet their backgrounds? Trump did not say ban the Muslims; he said halt Muslim immigration until we have a way of knowing who is entering our country. With all you free-border Americans who want to encourage Latin Americans to send their children on deadly border crossings to come in, we won't know who is entering our country any time soon.
Because any calls to built a wall to funnel people in at certain entry points, where we can document who is coming, is RACIST, right? Nevermind if it saves lives, and protects the rights of millions of American immigrants already here, who immigrated legally.
Trump is a hater because he wants security? He is a bigot because he wants a return to the days of responsible families and less government redistribution and dependency? Why should middle-class, employed white "men" be allowed to birth their children on the public dole because they do not immediately marry the mother and pay for her healthcare needs in bearing their children? It's not just poor people in on the scam now... everybody knows it's cheaper to put the "single" women/mothers on the dole, and then marry her later.
If the wife of the American-born, California-workplace killer radicalized him, shouldn't we be screening the incoming Muslims better? Who was she exactly? It was an arranged marriage: who sent her here?
Isn't it fair to stop admitting people who are potentially killers like her, until we can vet their backgrounds? Trump did not say ban the Muslims; he said halt Muslim immigration until we have a way of knowing who is entering our country. With all you free-border Americans who want to encourage Latin Americans to send their children on deadly border crossings to come in, we won't know who is entering our country any time soon.
Because any calls to built a wall to funnel people in at certain entry points, where we can document who is coming, is RACIST, right? Nevermind if it saves lives, and protects the rights of millions of American immigrants already here, who immigrated legally.
Trump is a hater because he wants security? He is a bigot because he wants a return to the days of responsible families and less government redistribution and dependency? Why should middle-class, employed white "men" be allowed to birth their children on the public dole because they do not immediately marry the mother and pay for her healthcare needs in bearing their children? It's not just poor people in on the scam now... everybody knows it's cheaper to put the "single" women/mothers on the dole, and then marry her later.
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"Madeleine Albright, who specializes in being unhelpfully helpful to Hillary, dismissed the email controversy on CNN: “She has said she made a mistake and nobody is going to die as a result of anything that happened on emails.”
How do we know nobody died? What about the Americans who died at Benghazi? Besides Hillary Clinton broke the law in her willful mishandling of classified information. I worked for several years in information security, protection, and classification in the USG. Anyone else besides Clinton and her toadies would have either lost their jobs or gone to jail for she and her entourage of fools did. Clinton is nothing short of traitor and so are those who support her. Cheers!
How do we know nobody died? What about the Americans who died at Benghazi? Besides Hillary Clinton broke the law in her willful mishandling of classified information. I worked for several years in information security, protection, and classification in the USG. Anyone else besides Clinton and her toadies would have either lost their jobs or gone to jail for she and her entourage of fools did. Clinton is nothing short of traitor and so are those who support her. Cheers!
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Somehow I doubt you ever worked with government classified material when you cannot acknowledge the simple fact that the GOP spent over seven million dollars and countless hours in a US House of Representatives "investigation" that uncovered not one bit of wrongdoing by Hillary Clinton.
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Do I worry that Sec Clinton was fooled by Bush II's lies about Iraq and voted for invasion? Not as much as I worry about electing anyone from the Republican party that still thinks the invasion of Iraq can be justified. Do I worry that she walks a conventional wisdom path for so many of the policies I think are necessary to bring equal opportunity and justice to all people in the US? Not as much as I worry about electing anyone from a Republican party who have rushed to support Donald Trump despite his contempt for people unlike himself.
Do I think that refusing to follow every aspect of the Federal Records Act to preserve for history (or future Congressional investigations by opponents) is an equivalent act to the Trump U actions of the Republican nominee taking money from students? No. And I object more to the waste of the millions of taxpayer dollars on Congressional investigations that are only looking for political information to use against Sec. Clinton. Let the Republican party finance its own opposition research and not ask the taxpayers for handouts.
Do I think that refusing to follow every aspect of the Federal Records Act to preserve for history (or future Congressional investigations by opponents) is an equivalent act to the Trump U actions of the Republican nominee taking money from students? No. And I object more to the waste of the millions of taxpayer dollars on Congressional investigations that are only looking for political information to use against Sec. Clinton. Let the Republican party finance its own opposition research and not ask the taxpayers for handouts.
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Mo,
Playfulness? Well, in a career spent pandering to war profiteers, liars, schemers and scammers, Donald's racism, misogyny and spectacular ignorance may seem small potatoes. Just nutty, but not dangerous? Game but not ghastly? To the rest of us it's a bit more lethal.
Playfulness? Well, in a career spent pandering to war profiteers, liars, schemers and scammers, Donald's racism, misogyny and spectacular ignorance may seem small potatoes. Just nutty, but not dangerous? Game but not ghastly? To the rest of us it's a bit more lethal.
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Aw, you do not care about lethality.
Donald is not yet in power, and look at all the people America is slaying across the globe under Obama and Hillary.
If we're ok with all those dead, and displace in refugee camps, how can Trump do worse? Those lives don't matter. The media and our national priorities reflect that.
Donald is not yet in power, and look at all the people America is slaying across the globe under Obama and Hillary.
If we're ok with all those dead, and displace in refugee camps, how can Trump do worse? Those lives don't matter. The media and our national priorities reflect that.
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Don't understand the final quote marks! What gives you hope, Ms. Dowd?Or was it all from Adams?
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Miss Dowd, I generally enjoy your columns very much. I have no idea what your issue is with the Clintons. Without descending into snideness myself, I must say that it seems personal, and a little unhinged. She is almost certain to be the only viable alternative to a Donald Trump presidency. Do you REALLY think that he would be preferable? That, Mss Dowd, think. Set your personal antipathy aside for a moment. Every time you write one of you scathing columns against HRC, you bring Trump that much closer to the presidency. Is that what you want?
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Wow, Maureen,
I never thought that I would see you endorsing Hillary. I interpret your very own vernacular - making a few positive statements about her - is akin to vowing your support.
Is this the beginning of a transcendental shift? I will be reading your future columns closely.
I can only hope that voters who finally begin to fear Donald will follow.
I never thought that I would see you endorsing Hillary. I interpret your very own vernacular - making a few positive statements about her - is akin to vowing your support.
Is this the beginning of a transcendental shift? I will be reading your future columns closely.
I can only hope that voters who finally begin to fear Donald will follow.
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People tend to assume that the Founding Fathers were very prim and straitlaced with a proper sense of dancing school decorum. Critics of the musical "1776" complained of them being portrayed making and laughing uproariously at sex jokes and toilet jokes. Actually, 18th century humor was very bawdy. Despite the dainty attire, they were men capable of kicking up their heels in a way that would make today's boys seem like, well, boys. John Adams and Ben Franklin seriously loathed each other. And you can imagine their attitudes toward women and people of color.
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I broke my years-old resolution never to read anything by this airhead. I'm sorry I did. l won't do it again.
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Considering how many adults, addicted to their iPhones and Facebook, still behave as if they were in high school, it doesn't surprise me that they also want their president to do the same. Example: sophomoric Dastardly Don, who behaves as thought he were 14. I'm glad President Obama never listened to the critics who accused him of failing to socialize with congress. Hillary is likeable enough.
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I'll be looking forward to Dowd's column on Donald Trump's likability.
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You and Sally Fields confuse "likable" and "favorable."
Ms. Clinton's high "unfavorable" ratings are about how people think she would do the job of POTUS and her positions on the issues, as well as her arrogant behavior and poor judgment. I don't care if she would be good to have a beer with. I do care about the lack of compassion that some of her remarks show (e.g. we have to bring "superpredators" "TO HEEL," and a lot of coal miners are going to be out of business.) I care that she is a hawk and doesn't care about the poor (she defends Bill's welfare to work policy even though so many have been put into poverty and extreme poverty because of it.)
Ms. Clinton's high "unfavorable" ratings are about how people think she would do the job of POTUS and her positions on the issues, as well as her arrogant behavior and poor judgment. I don't care if she would be good to have a beer with. I do care about the lack of compassion that some of her remarks show (e.g. we have to bring "superpredators" "TO HEEL," and a lot of coal miners are going to be out of business.) I care that she is a hawk and doesn't care about the poor (she defends Bill's welfare to work policy even though so many have been put into poverty and extreme poverty because of it.)
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Of course a sheltered white academic like you would scream about "superpredators" when your only experience with drug dealers and urban poverty is what you vicariously experience via the boob tube and in film.
But, for people like me who grew up in a crime-riddened neighborhood the threat of violence from drug activity was a daily reality, period.
And people like me thank Bill Clinton for acknowledging that reality and taking some action, unlike academics like you who think change can come from another irrelevant academic study and more liberal hand-wringing.
But, for people like me who grew up in a crime-riddened neighborhood the threat of violence from drug activity was a daily reality, period.
And people like me thank Bill Clinton for acknowledging that reality and taking some action, unlike academics like you who think change can come from another irrelevant academic study and more liberal hand-wringing.
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Here's a new one - "Reckless Hillary". That could get better mileage than "Crooked Hillary". Or maybe, use them interchangeably. They both apply.
BERNIE on a WRITE-IN ballot.
BERNIE on a WRITE-IN ballot.
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Reading this allows me to understand why Michael Kelly is so missed and needed. RIP to a great observer and writer.
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Sadly too many of Ms. Dowd's columns these days suggest she is struggling to maintain her characteristic snark (and not limiting it to those who might deserve it), but all she is doing is spinning her wheels in the mud -- and instead of providing the acerbic clarity when she's at her best, she merely adds another layer of muck and mire. But her readers see it for what it is -- a trying-too-hard attempt to remain edgily relevant. I'm sure she can -- but not if she continues to pursue this gratuitous path of misdirected spleen.
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All this and we still don't know which rest room he used.
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Why is it that no one seems to get what we need to lead this country is a leader.
Hillary is not a leader. Obama is no leader. Trump is not a leader. Bernie could be a leader if he were more on track.
I won't mention who the last leader we had was, but you don't have to go back to hermaphrodites. Just go back to a time when politics still meant the art of the possible.
Hillary is not a leader. Obama is no leader. Trump is not a leader. Bernie could be a leader if he were more on track.
I won't mention who the last leader we had was, but you don't have to go back to hermaphrodites. Just go back to a time when politics still meant the art of the possible.
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At least Ms. Dowd is consistent. She's always excessively mean toward Hillary and curiously easy on Trump. Makes you wonder. And BTW, tweated is a word?
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Thank you for reminding us, again, and then again, just how slimy and ugly Bill and Hilary Clinton are. Maureen Dowd is the sole Times columnist who understands Hilary Clinton is not fit to be president, in contrast to the pro-HRC General Articles and columns. Unfortunately, Donald Trump is not fit to be president, either. I fear for our nation. Is it too late to have other candidates? Biden? Huntsman? Please!!
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WAPO: "Why Hillary Clinton is a lesser evil than Donald Trump" ... But I'm sure that she can rise to Trump's level of evil given time...
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I'm sorry, but here Maureen Dowd sounds like she is just becoming unhinged. The the point of opinion articles is to present opinions, sometimes controversial, that help us think more deeply about events and ideas. Ms. Dowd has a keen sense of politics and background in politics that makes her opinion invaluable up to a point. That point is Hillary Clinton. She has spent the past 20-odd years not liking Bill or Hillary, and much like judges who recuse themselves from a trial when they cannot be unbiased, Ms. Dowd really should do the same. This is not a critical thinking piece, it's not witty or biting, it is snarky. Ms. Dowd treated the Clintons like King Arthur and Guinevere when Bill Clinton first ran for President, and she feels that their person behavior let her down. Ever since, she's been out for blood. So sad. So boring. So move on.
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The reference to Jefferson and Adams is really eerie. Jefferson (who died on July 4th) is remembered as the author of the Declaration of Independence. Adams, (who died later on that same day) is remembered for the Sedition Act, which Trump wishes to bring back and apply to anyone who disagrees with him. Watch out Maureen!
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Jefferson, Adams and Franklin were on the comittee that drafted the Declaration of Independence, though it is true that Jefferson wrote the first draft and that the Continental Congress revised the final product (as edited by Adams and Franklin).
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If all you remember Adams for is the Alien and Sedition Act, then you have either a very selective memory or a poor education.
John Adams was one of the greatest founders and Presidents.
John Adams was one of the greatest founders and Presidents.
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Trump is "playful"? Seriously? It's clear that Dowd has a high level of antipathy for Secretary Clinton, and that's cool, but can it really extend so far that Dowd feels the need to label the playground bully "playful," as if he represents nothing more dangerous than the little rich boy who needs to one-up anyone trying to get his swing? And to somehow equate Clinton's "recklessness" with her email server (remembering, of course, that she followed the same protocol as her immediate predecessors) with Trump's reckless foreign policy proposals is at best a false equivalency. Trump's finger on the nuclear button is keeping the world awake at night, but Dowd still can't see past where Cinton keeps her emails. Talk about reckless.
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Japan would not be threatened by N. Korea today if Madeleine Albright not danced with Dear Leader while he lied about his weapons plan.
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You are seriously equating Trump's bad judgment in shrugging off a nuclear war with having a private email server.
Go 'way, Ms. Dowd. We will have enough trouble fighting off a Trump presidency without your incessant anti-Clintonisms, which grow more ridiculous by the week.
Go 'way, Ms. Dowd. We will have enough trouble fighting off a Trump presidency without your incessant anti-Clintonisms, which grow more ridiculous by the week.
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Thank you again Ms. Dowd. Your audience is clearly in Clinton's camp, as is the NYT with its dismissal of Sanders and daily top of page Trump scandals, so your persistence in painting Clinton as fraud is refreshing. Changing the narrative from a purely relativist argument that Clinton the lesser of two evils is what we should have been hearing from the NYT for months, not the adoration of Clinton and the dismissal of Sanders and vilification of Trump.
Too bad that the NYT and so many others have embraced the relativism that dismisses idealism and vision, as that is precisely what had driven the Democratic Party to big money and status quo policies that have allowed voter suppression, crumbling infrastructure, massive student debt for those who cannot speak for 30 minutes and collect a quarter of a million dollars or more plus expenses and earn over $21 million in a three year span, a flawed and ridiculously expensive health care system and little hope for the "everyday American" Clinton vowed to represent at the outset of her coronation quest.
As one of those who commented on Mr. Egan's criticism against Sanders today for being too idealistic and vague about precisely how he intends to legislate his visions, I will not allow anyone to put a gun to my head and vote for the fraud that is Clinton just because she is less evil than Trump.
Too bad that the NYT and so many others have embraced the relativism that dismisses idealism and vision, as that is precisely what had driven the Democratic Party to big money and status quo policies that have allowed voter suppression, crumbling infrastructure, massive student debt for those who cannot speak for 30 minutes and collect a quarter of a million dollars or more plus expenses and earn over $21 million in a three year span, a flawed and ridiculously expensive health care system and little hope for the "everyday American" Clinton vowed to represent at the outset of her coronation quest.
As one of those who commented on Mr. Egan's criticism against Sanders today for being too idealistic and vague about precisely how he intends to legislate his visions, I will not allow anyone to put a gun to my head and vote for the fraud that is Clinton just because she is less evil than Trump.
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RE: "...I will not allow anyone to put a gun to my head..."
Nothing to worry about Andrew, no one is going to put a gun to your head and force you to vote for anyone. There are millions of us who are going to vote for Sec. Clinton with enthusiasm and confidence that she will be a good to great President.
Nothing to worry about Andrew, no one is going to put a gun to your head and force you to vote for anyone. There are millions of us who are going to vote for Sec. Clinton with enthusiasm and confidence that she will be a good to great President.
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Nobody's putting a gun to your head. The gun to the head has been the stubborn intransigence of a "loyal opposition" that's stood in the way of spending on our crumbling infrastructure and has promoted voter suppression all over the country. If you're going to play the blame game, put it where it belongs.
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Sanders has no record of accomplishment. The few times the media have shifted the focus from the 'horse race' with Clinton and actually examined his proposals, they have fallen apart as unworkable. He had 30 years in Congress to join the Democratic Party if he wanted to influence its direction; suddenly he joins in order to run for president. It is a token of how well he and his cadre would run the country that they can't even run a competent campaign, having failed in NY state especially to make sure their supporters were eligible to vote in the primary. 'You had ONE job ...!' (Since he himself only just joined the party at the last minute, understandably it slipped his mind to tell his supporters how.)
Sanders is not an 'idealist'. He's shown himself to be an opportunist and a fraud, a Pied Piper spouting glittering generalities to gather the children and the perpetually childish in his wake. When he first emerged I thought he might be a breath of fresh air. Now I think he's as scary as Trump - they're mirror images of each other.
Sanders is not an 'idealist'. He's shown himself to be an opportunist and a fraud, a Pied Piper spouting glittering generalities to gather the children and the perpetually childish in his wake. When he first emerged I thought he might be a breath of fresh air. Now I think he's as scary as Trump - they're mirror images of each other.
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Listen Maureen, you clearly do not like Hillary, and never have, and that's okay.. But please grit your teeth, and be helpful because the alternative is a Facist, who probably flunked 7th grade Civics, never read the Constitution, much less understood it, has no clue what governance is, and is a clone of Kim Jong-un
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So sick of Maureen Dowd. The worst thing about a Clinton presidency will be the continuing of this column and the unreasonable ramblings of Maureen Dowd.
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Can Ms. Dowd ever write a thoughtful column about the election without the snide cheap shots at Hillary Clinton and her supporters? Of all things, she belittles Sally Field for a comment she made 31 years ago! I no longer understand the point of this column
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How odd for a top female reporter of the Times, no less, to whine about the first female nominee for President as being cold and impersoanl. Not much different that Drumpf's comments about Megyn Kelly, Carly or Warren- all women who stood toe to toe with him.Was Margaret Thatcher concerned about her image as an iron lady when she went to the war in the Falklands or when she challenged Labor and the Soviets? Yes Hillary did use bad judgment with that server and her e-mails. Where is the harm? Did she not endure eleven hours of probing and show she had the ability to stand up to the good ole boys who doubt any woman can lead this country?And where was Ms. Dowd when the attorney general and Turd Blossom hisd e-mails at the RNC concerning the firing of US attorneys and later destroyed them? I guess that does not count since those were good ole boys doing a fraternity prank.
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Mr. Trump receives the epithet "tart-tongued." Mrs. Clinton is labeled "plodding."
There was no doubt in those words about whom Ms. Down favors of the two.
But what does she mean by her last sentence, "That, weirdly give me hope?" Hope for what, dear?
There was no doubt in those words about whom Ms. Down favors of the two.
But what does she mean by her last sentence, "That, weirdly give me hope?" Hope for what, dear?
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While it is true that Donald Trump is unpredictable with respect to what his foreign policy conduct will actually be (and just maybe it's not such a bad idea to open a conversation with North Korea--did it with Iran); we know what Hillary Clinton's foreign policy will be. All one needs to do is think about Iraq, Libya, Honduras and Syria to gain an insight. It's a mistake to whitewash her record.
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Did anyone see her answer on Israel? Paraphrasing: Well if the Palestinians had only taken the deal my husband offered them back in 1999...
She represents the past.
She represents the old ways.
She cannot come in "neutral" as Trump at least recognizes a potential peacemaker should, because she is owned lock stock and barrel.
If you like President Obama's overreaching (and some say illegal/unConstitutional) foreign policies that are costing us $12 billion a day, not to mention the costs of refugee displacement when our bombing raids are successful in destroying everything on the ground, then vote Hillary.
The rest of us will vote for America First, so that we can bring the troops home, confront our own warring tribes/gangs and the spillover effect, and stop overriding the airspace of sovereign countries like Pakiston to do our killing. (If these ISIL leaders are truly so dangerous we have to go into other countries to kill their people, why can't Pakistan do the killing on their own soil? Are all those killed by the US forces really an immediate national security danger to the United States that have to be immediately stopped by force? I don't think so. I think Mr. Obama got addicted to killing when he "got" Osama bin Laden, and now he does not now how to stop and constrain the military. Nor does Hillary.)
If you like the killing and the current economy, vote for Hillary to carry on President Obama's policies. Otherwise, vote for Change promised but not delivered
She represents the past.
She represents the old ways.
She cannot come in "neutral" as Trump at least recognizes a potential peacemaker should, because she is owned lock stock and barrel.
If you like President Obama's overreaching (and some say illegal/unConstitutional) foreign policies that are costing us $12 billion a day, not to mention the costs of refugee displacement when our bombing raids are successful in destroying everything on the ground, then vote Hillary.
The rest of us will vote for America First, so that we can bring the troops home, confront our own warring tribes/gangs and the spillover effect, and stop overriding the airspace of sovereign countries like Pakiston to do our killing. (If these ISIL leaders are truly so dangerous we have to go into other countries to kill their people, why can't Pakistan do the killing on their own soil? Are all those killed by the US forces really an immediate national security danger to the United States that have to be immediately stopped by force? I don't think so. I think Mr. Obama got addicted to killing when he "got" Osama bin Laden, and now he does not now how to stop and constrain the military. Nor does Hillary.)
If you like the killing and the current economy, vote for Hillary to carry on President Obama's policies. Otherwise, vote for Change promised but not delivered
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This is perhaps the most incoherent and pointless Maureen Dowd piece that I have ever read. Snarky, as always, but to no real prouctive end, unfortunately. Is this campaign making Dowd lose it completely this time?
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Most of the "NYT Picks" are criticizing this fairly neutral column for not being sufficiently pro Clinton. I liked the column, especially the part here Dowd covers Clinton's email problem. This by the way is not just a "mistake" by Clinton, but an unforced error that included violations of Federal law and exposure of sensitive government communications. Oh well say the Clinton supporters. I say, California, Puerto Rico, and all the other states and districts still to vote, vote for Bernie Sanders, a good and decent man!
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Well 3 million more of us think he is a narcissistic monomaniac with a corrupt wife.
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jack,
actually, it didn't.
actually, it didn't.
"But Field, one of several actresses and women pols warming up the crowd for Hillary,..."
Bernie and Trump don't need an opening act.
Bernie and Trump don't need an opening act.
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They don't need a harem either.
Anyone else find it odd that in the picture of Clinton supporters, there appears to be NOT ONE man standing behind her?
Do we really think the American women can run the place on their own? Do we really think she is qualified to be commander-in-chief of a military that includes... men? I think down deep, she knows she is in over her head.
A Trump victory will shut the door on the boys v. girls mentality that someone thinks is a winning script to the blacks v. whites mentality that has been the overwheming Obama administration narrative.
Anyone else find it odd that in the picture of Clinton supporters, there appears to be NOT ONE man standing behind her?
Do we really think the American women can run the place on their own? Do we really think she is qualified to be commander-in-chief of a military that includes... men? I think down deep, she knows she is in over her head.
A Trump victory will shut the door on the boys v. girls mentality that someone thinks is a winning script to the blacks v. whites mentality that has been the overwheming Obama administration narrative.
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After reading this column, it finally hit me: what Maureen really wants is to be liked by others. Beneath that hard exterior is a needy child seeking approval.
Maureen, you can relax. You don't have to try so hard. You're okay.
Maureen, you can relax. You don't have to try so hard. You're okay.
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Can someone please define "jenunosity" for me so I'll know what to fling at the Donald?
I can neither find it in the online dictionary nor figure out what it might be a misspelling of. Thanks!
I can neither find it in the online dictionary nor figure out what it might be a misspelling of. Thanks!
The word was used in the film Love and Death in a riff between Woody Allen and Diane Keaton.
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Jejune is naive, simplistic, superficial.
The Woody Allen character in "Love & Death" said: "That's jejune? You have the temerity to say that I'm talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias!"
The Woody Allen character in "Love & Death" said: "That's jejune? You have the temerity to say that I'm talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias!"
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And Lin-Manuel Miranda walks away with the column.
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I'm s big LMM fan and a big Hamilton fan--but isn't it far more bizarre when a candidate and our political discourse ignores the 200 years of our own history--Andrew Jackson's genocidal Indian wars, the Civil War, Jim Crowe, Huey Long , Father Coughlan, George Wallace ,Tricky Dick, to name a few?
It is far more bizarre, when the lessons of demagoguery all over the world : Caudillos, Il Duces, and cults of personalities : Putin, Mugabe,
Berlesconi --are dismissed as irrelevant to the manner in which Trump is conducting his campaign?
It is far more bizarre, when the lessons of demagoguery all over the world : Caudillos, Il Duces, and cults of personalities : Putin, Mugabe,
Berlesconi --are dismissed as irrelevant to the manner in which Trump is conducting his campaign?
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Do remember that George Wallace apologized – deeply, sincerely, publicly – something Nixon or W never did.
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Hillary needs to repeat, repeat, repeat about Trump's absurdity. But she is clueless about repetition. So, her words are easily forgotten and Donald Trump continues getting support.
Clinton: blah, blah, blah.
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I suggest that she repeat herself and that she use symbols and catchwords. She could make a zero sign (0 or OK) with fingers and thumb to suggest that Trump has zero experience in government.
Trump = 0 + 0 + 0 = zero experience
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Unfortunately Hillary does not get this.
Clinton: blah, blah, blah.
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I suggest that she repeat herself and that she use symbols and catchwords. She could make a zero sign (0 or OK) with fingers and thumb to suggest that Trump has zero experience in government.
Trump = 0 + 0 + 0 = zero experience
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Unfortunately Hillary does not get this.
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Trump's blank slate will end up being more appealing to the young Bernie voters than Hillary's record of lies, deceit and deadly interventions in Libya, without a plan for governing what she helped to destabilize.
It's not too late to promote law and order amongst our own warring tribes here, you know. Still not too late to try and seize back the streets of Chicago, and protect the women and children there. Why is that not a national priority, but educated the women of Afghanistan is?
It's not too late to promote law and order amongst our own warring tribes here, you know. Still not too late to try and seize back the streets of Chicago, and protect the women and children there. Why is that not a national priority, but educated the women of Afghanistan is?
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So, Ms. O’Dowd sagely advises aspirants that the best mudslinger will win.
I really “dig” this, and would call and raise her one more.
Let’s get down with some real mudslinging.
I propose the great American Presidential Mud Race, with Hillary and Donald the only contestants, winner take all for the Oval Office.
They can bellow and wallow through actual mud, hurl invectives, scramble through unimaginable hurdles and obstacles, and get real down and dirty. A true test of wills, willingness and willfulness, willy nilly.
And we could condense all this turbidity and boil it down into the clarifying crescendo of a global televised event.
For that one race day, the globe would be so all consumed with the broadcast that we might enjoy one day of peace on earth, as dictators, tyrants, madmen, terrorists, murderers, city gangs, drug cartels, mafias, social media trolls, politicians, journalists, intellectual elites, the 1% and the rest of us would be glued to our TV’s like the stickiest mud you ever scraped off your sneakers.
I’ll drink to that. Here’s mud in your eye!
I really “dig” this, and would call and raise her one more.
Let’s get down with some real mudslinging.
I propose the great American Presidential Mud Race, with Hillary and Donald the only contestants, winner take all for the Oval Office.
They can bellow and wallow through actual mud, hurl invectives, scramble through unimaginable hurdles and obstacles, and get real down and dirty. A true test of wills, willingness and willfulness, willy nilly.
And we could condense all this turbidity and boil it down into the clarifying crescendo of a global televised event.
For that one race day, the globe would be so all consumed with the broadcast that we might enjoy one day of peace on earth, as dictators, tyrants, madmen, terrorists, murderers, city gangs, drug cartels, mafias, social media trolls, politicians, journalists, intellectual elites, the 1% and the rest of us would be glued to our TV’s like the stickiest mud you ever scraped off your sneakers.
I’ll drink to that. Here’s mud in your eye!
Here's the bottom line Mo - if your boss - who happens to be President and Commander and Chief - is getting emails from you that are not from a dot gov email address and has no complaint - well then I guess it IS permissible. Of course Mrs. Clinton also sent emails to the House and Senate Foreign Relations Committees - also not required to have a gov't email - and no one said a word for 4 years! Now some right wing (Senator Grassley's former staffer) Inspector General says it's a big deal. But wait there is another IG who issued his OWN press release saying that Mrs. Clinton had only followed in the footsteps of her five previous predecessors and the report shows that many in State refuse to work on the shoddy gov't technology! But ignore that Mo - keep proving your investigative skills are slack as you whip up these smears about emails and likability - ignoring the facts, the Gallup polls that show Clinton's supporters are far more enthusiastic about their candidate than any of the others, and of course her garnering the majority of votes, delegates (super and otherwise) and dare I say it - the campaign donations to actually compete in the race- as Citizen's United as determined it must be.
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Maureen, Your first half had me going that you might still be a feminist and yet you(albeit hilariously- ha ha) misreported the fact that Hillary has said almost ten times in interviews that she @made a mistake". Holy cow Maureen did you distort that. I agree, if contemplating: the question of her intent in using her personal email server for state department business raises questions but don't outright put her tit through a wringer unfairly!
Cheney scrubbed 5 million emails and Hillary didn't even scrub all her 30,000. Many were released.
There is a double standard in our discourse for women and democrats and you are perpetuating it because you are mildly unhappy about something.
Jeez, do you remember when you were smarting from that social burn from Barack who picked you up with a drink on Martha's Barnyard? Hillary! Did she then do a minor faux pax with you, too and your not besties ff? Don't let your personal conundrums decide the Op-Ed fate of the NY Times. It's just trying to be oh I don't know: "the paper of record".
Cheney scrubbed 5 million emails and Hillary didn't even scrub all her 30,000. Many were released.
There is a double standard in our discourse for women and democrats and you are perpetuating it because you are mildly unhappy about something.
Jeez, do you remember when you were smarting from that social burn from Barack who picked you up with a drink on Martha's Barnyard? Hillary! Did she then do a minor faux pax with you, too and your not besties ff? Don't let your personal conundrums decide the Op-Ed fate of the NY Times. It's just trying to be oh I don't know: "the paper of record".
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Maureen: "Funnily"?!? Really?
As to the endorsements of Paul Ryan, et.al. establishment GOP are under the continued delusion that on they can somehow control Donald Trump.
As to the endorsements of Paul Ryan, et.al. establishment GOP are under the continued delusion that on they can somehow control Donald Trump.
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Politics in the US has always been a rough game if not a blood sport - Burr shot Hamilton due to remarks made in a New York governors race, Hamilton offering a "despicable opinion" of Burr that he would never specify, despite two letters from Burr asking, what I now would believe to be summarized as "yo, what up"?
I am a big fan of Ms. Dowd. I think the editor could have found a different title for the article. While the charge was made, John Adams stands apart from the hypocritical slave owning framing "lawyers", that began the republic. He was a lawyer/farmer/businessman who actually tried cases in court rooms. Trying to enforce the concept of "due process of law" in front of judges, juries and adversaries is a different world than writing the words on paper and admiring the syntax.
We could have shown the memory of the man a little of what is clearly absent in this years political discourse: respect.
I am a big fan of Ms. Dowd. I think the editor could have found a different title for the article. While the charge was made, John Adams stands apart from the hypocritical slave owning framing "lawyers", that began the republic. He was a lawyer/farmer/businessman who actually tried cases in court rooms. Trying to enforce the concept of "due process of law" in front of judges, juries and adversaries is a different world than writing the words on paper and admiring the syntax.
We could have shown the memory of the man a little of what is clearly absent in this years political discourse: respect.
Judgement is the proper English spelling.
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Maybe in Britain, David.
But in America, "judgment" has been the preferred spelling ever since Noah Webster decreed the first "e" to be superfluous.
But in America, "judgment" has been the preferred spelling ever since Noah Webster decreed the first "e" to be superfluous.
That politicians will lie and say most anything to win is a given, but after watching the wealthy huckster thug in a suit's supporters for some time now, I am totally convinced that it is far easier to fool such people who, for one reason or another, need to be fooled, than it is to convince them that they are being fooled. As Trump himself said "I could shoot someone in Times Square and they would still vote for me" says it all.
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For heaven's sake, Ms. Dowd, it's time that you admit to yourself that you prefer Donald to Hillary. Then perhaps you can get back to writing with intellectual honesty, although I kind of doubt it.
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Dowd hits Il Trumpolini on his spelling of judgment on his tweet, while ignoring that that word can be spelled both ways, judgement and judgement, similar to grey or grey.
And, by the way, Anthony Weiner's tweet was in no way incoherently, as she claims.
How about once writing an article without anything so small it really doesn't matter, and one about Il Trumpolini not ending up in a hit job on Hillary as well?
And, by the way, Anthony Weiner's tweet was in no way incoherently, as she claims.
How about once writing an article without anything so small it really doesn't matter, and one about Il Trumpolini not ending up in a hit job on Hillary as well?
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Dowd was at her best when GWB provided her with great opportunities for mockery which hit the spot. This election is a manifestation of the psychopathology and corruption that has pervaded our society including our politics. This disorganized scattershot column is an indication that MD is unable to cope with the serious issues with which this election presents us.
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Hillary and her emails. One thing I agree with Bernie on is enough about her damn emails. When that was going on email was still in a relative infancy compared to now. Further more, she will not plan to do that as president. She learned from her experiences. From what I see Donald Trump is untrainable and listens to no one. Is that what we are looking for. A bombastic incoherent leader. A good example of not listening, if Trump misspelled " Judgment" it is because he did an override on his spell check. Doesn't that show what a pompous you know what he is." I don't need no stinkin spell check. I have a very good brain. "
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If you are going to go after Trump for writing "judgement" instead of "judgment," you should not use the non-word "tweated" in your next-to-last paragraph. Just sayin'.
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To members of the New Silent Majority are busy trying to rationalize HRC's vote on the Iraq War:
I suspect you're doing so because she gives you cover for your own bad judgement. Here is the title of that resolution that is impossible to misinterpret:
'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'
23 senators had the backbone to vote no.
On the email issue: Could someone please explain just why she refused to cooperate with the State Department's inspector general?
It sure looks like deliberate obstruction, to me.
Her comments on Nancy Reagan's involvement on AIDES.
Her admiration for Kissinger.
Her having learned nada on regime change (Libya Fiasco).
Her ugly works in Honduras,
Her being tied at the hip to Israeli Far Right, and
Her reticence on a carbon tax makes it impossible for me to cast a vote for her (if nominated), unless she addresses all these issues in a concise fashion that satisfies my all too valid concerns.
We can do with our own Berlusconi for one or two terms.
We have a good separation of powers.
I suspect you're doing so because she gives you cover for your own bad judgement. Here is the title of that resolution that is impossible to misinterpret:
'Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002'
23 senators had the backbone to vote no.
On the email issue: Could someone please explain just why she refused to cooperate with the State Department's inspector general?
It sure looks like deliberate obstruction, to me.
Her comments on Nancy Reagan's involvement on AIDES.
Her admiration for Kissinger.
Her having learned nada on regime change (Libya Fiasco).
Her ugly works in Honduras,
Her being tied at the hip to Israeli Far Right, and
Her reticence on a carbon tax makes it impossible for me to cast a vote for her (if nominated), unless she addresses all these issues in a concise fashion that satisfies my all too valid concerns.
We can do with our own Berlusconi for one or two terms.
We have a good separation of powers.
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So Clinton has to satisfy your concerns, but Trump, who's denied climate change, favors tax cuts for the high-net-worth crowd, and promotes a neocolonial foreign policy, gets a gimme? I'm guessing you don't put in much time checking your own privilege, or contradictions.
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I don't quite understand, Maggie
If Hill wants to ingratiate to and lead from the center, that is her prerogative.
Do you think that I'm asking too much?
Tell me if the Honduras and Carbon Tax issues concern you.
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/clintons-carbon-corruption-why-hillary-...
If Hill wants to ingratiate to and lead from the center, that is her prerogative.
Do you think that I'm asking too much?
Tell me if the Honduras and Carbon Tax issues concern you.
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/clintons-carbon-corruption-why-hillary-...
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The volatile viper of the vile and vituperative strikes again! Is there a more personally bitter, unhappy, angry, and dissatisfied pundit alive today than Maureen Dowd? I think not. By comparison she makes George Will look like Chuckles the Clown.
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'Jejunosity',the only place I encountered the word "jejune" was in Joyce's Ulysses: S. Dedalus' friend the"stately plump" Buck Mulligan calls him "jejune jesuit" to point out his real poverty and hunger (even though he is after him to borrow money.) There is hardly any room for interpretation of "jejune" any other way; jesuits are not empty or hollow. Joyce emphasizes Buck's plumpness from second word on.It is good alliteration, and contrasting word for plumpness of Buick.
And "jejunoisty" is not a word and doesn't even apply.
And "jejunoisty" is not a word and doesn't even apply.
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Jesuits may not be empty or hollow (redundant), but they sure are jesuitical, which, kindly put, means disingenuous.
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I am still waiting for a journalist to acknowledge an apparent disconnect between HRC's "Likeability" numbers and the fact that the Gallup org. says she is America's most admired woman annually for more than twenty years. My take is that "likeability" is a personality trait. Puppies are likeable, but probably not presidential material. On the other hand, admiration is an earned quality based on accomplishment. Would like to hear your rationale.
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I thought Clinton's speech was great. Am I the only reader tired of Dowd's petty, repetitive insults against her?
Reminds me of her petty, repetitive insults against Al Gore.
And look what we ended up with.
Reminds me of her petty, repetitive insults against Al Gore.
And look what we ended up with.
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Augusta,
Yes and Yes!
Yes and Yes!
One more Dowd column; one more hit piece on Secretary Clinton. I think if you look up the word "obsession" in the dictionary, you will find a photo of poor Maureen right there.
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Maureen Dowd reveals herself to be something of an empty vessel. Her fealty to her lordship Trump diminishes any semblance of objectivity. Yes, Maureen, your ax-grinding is predictable, unseemly and totally in character.
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"her judgment.... Or as Trump spells it... judgement"
Actually, "judgement" is a perfectly correct alternative spelling of "judgment". Trump has enough real errors of judgement for you to seize on, without attacking ones that do not exist and might come back to haunt you if you expose your own ignorance.
Actually, "judgement" is a perfectly correct alternative spelling of "judgment". Trump has enough real errors of judgement for you to seize on, without attacking ones that do not exist and might come back to haunt you if you expose your own ignorance.
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If one could discern what this filler of space offers beyond still another example that hollywood know-nothings do indeed know nothing - which by now should not be either news or surprising - why we might even be able to go airborne in our habits. All the best, Mother Superior. Please don't jump the gun, just holster it.
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I guess you can get more people to read your column with that headline that mentions hermaphrodites and Hamilton then you could if it was entitled Another Screed Against Hillary by Dowd.
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"...this could be the wildest, meanest election in modern history." Is Ms. Dowd implying that Hillary Clinton is being "mean" when she cites Trump's own words and then condemns them as racist, wrong or just plain incoherent? Dowd may, like others in the media, believe that Hillary should be a nice girl who speaks no ill of her opponent, no matter how justified, and just lose gracefully. I mean, think of all the fun that a "playful" Trump presidency would be - all that fodder for adoring yet scolding copy. Many of the rest of us, however, are cheering for Hillary to continue to speak truth to reckless power.
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Maureen Dowd has it wrong with Trumpolini! The Trumpster stated after Clinton's great speech last week that he would make sure she went to jail if he became President! The guy is a pathological LIAR and nut job and Maureeen Dowd still is on Clinton's case about a bunch of emails?
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What I gather from this latest "I hate Hillary" column is that Ms. Dowd would be in favor of another Benghazi hearing.
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How many times and in how many ways can it be said...?
Mo, give your Pathological Clinton Obsession a rest, please! Your snarky venom on anything and everything Clinton has long ago since stopped saying a single useful thing about Clintons - and all too much about Dowds... none of it good.
Mo, give your Pathological Clinton Obsession a rest, please! Your snarky venom on anything and everything Clinton has long ago since stopped saying a single useful thing about Clintons - and all too much about Dowds... none of it good.
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I think we have reached a tipping point where just as many commentors are complaining about Ms. Dowd's pathetic hounding of the the Clintons as they are reacting to the "content" of her warped hatred of our next President.
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Let me get this straight, you do not need to be capable as long as you are nice?
If this is true, why is a stellar human being like Jimmy Carter regarded as one of our worst presidents while a manipulative adulterer like FDR one of our greatest?
The next president will be dealing with Putin, China, and the dumpster fire that is the Middle East. Not to mention a Republican House that seems hell bent on turning our country into another Keynesian experiment gone wrong, (looking at you Kansas)
I think I will take my chances on cunning and manipulative, especially since the last guy America wanted to have a beer with started an endless war in the Middle East and nearly tanked our economy.
If this is true, why is a stellar human being like Jimmy Carter regarded as one of our worst presidents while a manipulative adulterer like FDR one of our greatest?
The next president will be dealing with Putin, China, and the dumpster fire that is the Middle East. Not to mention a Republican House that seems hell bent on turning our country into another Keynesian experiment gone wrong, (looking at you Kansas)
I think I will take my chances on cunning and manipulative, especially since the last guy America wanted to have a beer with started an endless war in the Middle East and nearly tanked our economy.
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It must have really pained Ms Dowd to give Hillary credit for a good speech. Of course you knew the next word would be "but". Luckily, Trump is too outrageous to allow Dowd to follow her natural instinct to back the Rich Guy.
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I believe that Hillary's email situation occurred in a quite honest, but stumbling manner. She simply followed the lead of previous people (i.e. Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice). They had primarily done the same and she thought it to be OK. She assumed that.
Also, just who ever told her that it was not OK to have her private server for official emails? That question came up recently and the answer is zilch to my knowledge.
Therefore, she most likely did think it was allowed and in reality it was allowed given nobody told her to stop it.
To drag all of this out now is somewhat analogous to ex post facto law enforcement.
That is exactly what you are pulling here Maureen in this acerbic piece.
Also, just who ever told her that it was not OK to have her private server for official emails? That question came up recently and the answer is zilch to my knowledge.
Therefore, she most likely did think it was allowed and in reality it was allowed given nobody told her to stop it.
To drag all of this out now is somewhat analogous to ex post facto law enforcement.
That is exactly what you are pulling here Maureen in this acerbic piece.
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I am so tired of Dowd's snarky comments about Mrs. Clinton. She always starts out sounding supportive of her and then the last part is always terrible and demeaning. Get over yourself, girlie, and support the woman who will be our first woman President.
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This is the Platonic Ideal of damning with faint praise.
More and more, as this election progresses, and unless Trump hires a consultant that can discipline his narrative, I see him somewhere in October looking like Humphrey Bogart in that Caine Mutiny scene, sitting in that chair mumbling and moving marbles around in his hand.
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Likeability? Is Hillary "likeable" or at least "likeable enough"? Why is this even The Question, especially when choosing the President of the United States for the most powerful country in the world?
Is our country the shallowest one on the planet? Part of this silly false metric is the doings of the shallow pollsters, shallow media, and our obsession with shallow, diversionary celebrity culture. What does likeability have to do with competence? George Bush was "likeable," the kind of a guy Americans told pollsters they preferred to have a beer with--how'd that work out for our country?
Why is so much of the "buzz" in this election about Hillary's likeability? Is Trump "likeable"? Okay, maybe to people who like bullies; obnoxious, self-promoting boors; misogynists; and rebel-flag wavers. How many of the gaggle of GOP presidential contenders were actually "likeable"? More too the point, how many of them were competent?
Is Trump competent to be POTUS? Unfortunately this seems be a question of little interest as The Trumpster auditions for the mesmerized media to star in his latest production called "Presidential Apprentice."
As a Bernie supporter, I thought--similar to 2008--Hillary was not running an effective campaign for 2016. But with her Trump speech this week, she came into her own, did what few people have been able to do, took down Blow-bag Trump, and demonstrated her competence to be POTUS. That I "like"!
Is our country the shallowest one on the planet? Part of this silly false metric is the doings of the shallow pollsters, shallow media, and our obsession with shallow, diversionary celebrity culture. What does likeability have to do with competence? George Bush was "likeable," the kind of a guy Americans told pollsters they preferred to have a beer with--how'd that work out for our country?
Why is so much of the "buzz" in this election about Hillary's likeability? Is Trump "likeable"? Okay, maybe to people who like bullies; obnoxious, self-promoting boors; misogynists; and rebel-flag wavers. How many of the gaggle of GOP presidential contenders were actually "likeable"? More too the point, how many of them were competent?
Is Trump competent to be POTUS? Unfortunately this seems be a question of little interest as The Trumpster auditions for the mesmerized media to star in his latest production called "Presidential Apprentice."
As a Bernie supporter, I thought--similar to 2008--Hillary was not running an effective campaign for 2016. But with her Trump speech this week, she came into her own, did what few people have been able to do, took down Blow-bag Trump, and demonstrated her competence to be POTUS. That I "like"!
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Maureen Dowd has finally lost any notion of meaningful commentary. She has fallen back on channeling her buddy Donald Trump. What a senseless incoherent jumble of useless information. Isn't her contract up soon?
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I hate to say it but Trump has a point about Anthony Weiner. That's going to come up again. Ms Abedin ought to recuse herself from this election!
& by the way if you're niggling over spelling, "tweating" looks pretty peculiar to me.
& by the way if you're niggling over spelling, "tweating" looks pretty peculiar to me.
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The choice between Clinton and Trump is one of choosing between hanging and the firing squad. But getting back to Hilary's teleprompter reading. I'd say it was a collection of Trumpism clippings, but essentially vacuous in terms of her own foreign policy thoughts. I'll bet more than a dozen people contributed to the monologue, including key writers of SNL.
While Hillary fans are celebrating its success, it will be short lived. Let me tell you why. It's all summarized in an old saying: "Never pick a fight in a swimming pool if you can't swim." Mr. Trump's research team will be vicious in characterizing her faux pas going back to the 90's. Bill Clinton will be shown waving his finger at America. It will go on and on. Hillary will be remembered for ducking imaginary bullets in Bosnia. Get the idea. She has opened Pandora's box. Stand by folks, for the worst. Keep the children away from the television.
While Hillary fans are celebrating its success, it will be short lived. Let me tell you why. It's all summarized in an old saying: "Never pick a fight in a swimming pool if you can't swim." Mr. Trump's research team will be vicious in characterizing her faux pas going back to the 90's. Bill Clinton will be shown waving his finger at America. It will go on and on. Hillary will be remembered for ducking imaginary bullets in Bosnia. Get the idea. She has opened Pandora's box. Stand by folks, for the worst. Keep the children away from the television.
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Trump could still make that "Jefferson is dead" ploy work. First he tweets, "Hillary is dead. Sad!" Five minutes later, when it's obvious she's still alive, "There she goes again! Crooked Hillary!"
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I just want this to be over and Bernie Sanders and his bots to go away forever.
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Yawn. HRC just had the best week of her campaign, Trump may have had the worst, but you'd never know from this column. HRC succeeded in not only shaming Trump, but shutting him up. That should win her a Nobel Prize along with her upcoming two terms in the White House. Dowd missed the real story once again.
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It isn't "going to be easy" for Hillary this fall. As any half attentive voter could have predicted many many years ago. And it will be the fault of the brain-dead Democratic Party establishment who utterly refused to lift a finger to find a more qualified candidate. And that establishment remains still in often quite arrogant and preposterously defiant denial about this.
Neither political party deserves anything now but complete rejection. Both are unfit to exist and continue wantonly wrecking America.
Neither political party deserves anything now but complete rejection. Both are unfit to exist and continue wantonly wrecking America.
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Trump has obliterated the Republican establishment who got us into these wars.
We will see if the Bernie supporters have the guts and the brains to rebuild their party too, by shutting the door once and for good on the militaristic Obama/Clinton legacy which they adopted from George W. Bush and nurtured on their own watch.
We will see if the Bernie supporters have the guts and the brains to rebuild their party too, by shutting the door once and for good on the militaristic Obama/Clinton legacy which they adopted from George W. Bush and nurtured on their own watch.
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Please, could somebody make Maureen Dowd more likable?
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Hillary Clinton giving a lecture on foreign policy is like Joe Hazelwood giving a lecture on oil tanker navigation. The disaster in Libya is still finding ways to get worse and Hillary Clinton owns it.
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Thank you for that bit of honesty from Canada.
Because our white media here really really likes Mr. Obama, the American media has not been properly covering the ongoing wars or their costs at $12 billion a day.
Only when the former soldiers come home and bring their authoritarian practices here will we realize what we were doing to the world. We have the guns, we make the rules. Wait until it really comes home in the coming decades... ALL lives matter.
Because our white media here really really likes Mr. Obama, the American media has not been properly covering the ongoing wars or their costs at $12 billion a day.
Only when the former soldiers come home and bring their authoritarian practices here will we realize what we were doing to the world. We have the guns, we make the rules. Wait until it really comes home in the coming decades... ALL lives matter.
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Both Clintons have been subjected to vicious GOP lies and attacks for over two decades not because they are disliked, but because they are feared. They are humanitarian progressives who eschew the flawed economic policies that started with Reagan and descended to the Ted Cruz government shut down. Like Bill, Hillary is a highly talented, ambitious, well educated and successful leader who has extraordinary achievements on her resume. The GOP has no viable candidate to run for President this year because their philosophies and policies have finally been proven bankrupt, unsustainable and now unmasked to the detriment of the majority of Americans who remain economically crippled. Greenspan decided that Wall St. didn't require regulation; Dubya/Cheney decided that an imperialist invasion of Iraq was justifiable; Ryan and McConnell want to eliminate national health insurance and privatize social security because they realize they can't eliminate it. Hillary is now the only viable leader running for President who has the talent, knowledge and temperament for the job. Obama kept this country, and by example, the rest of the world from going over the cliff in 2008. The only way to avoid that same fate is to elect the first qualified female leader to succeed him and hopefully retake the Senate as well next fall to keep this country moving forward by restoring good jobs and restoring the Middle Class to economic viability. This is the great fear of the GOP.
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I first voted for President in 1952, for Eisenhower, and have voted Republican every four years since. This year I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary. With all her considerable faults she possesses two vital characteristics for the office of President, which Trump does not. She is a) sane, and b) has the experience and familiarity with the office necessary to avoid harm to the Republic.
Speaking of a founder, Adams, I am also reminded of Hamilton's worry about the danger existing in the common electorate. He toyed with the idea of a monarchal government.
And here we are, faced with disaster because of the common electorate.
God help us.
Speaking of a founder, Adams, I am also reminded of Hamilton's worry about the danger existing in the common electorate. He toyed with the idea of a monarchal government.
And here we are, faced with disaster because of the common electorate.
God help us.
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Another serial attack piece that puts people to sleep. How novel. Maureen thinks that attacking Hilary makes Maureen lively and relevant. Hopefully that is so. At least then there is some minimal purpose to Maureen's lumbering columns on all things Hilary.
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Mo, Trumps attack on Judge Curiel and Governor Martinez were not "nutty". They were deliberate and deeply wrong and provide a clear insight to a damaged personality that cannot be allowed to hold any position in government. Mr. trump and his Republican acolytes will soon be on the way to a historic and lasting election defeat.
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Maureen, you are beginning to sound like a broken record. Yes, we all get it. You hate Hillary. Maybe the NYT should consider a voice, other than yours, for the duration of this election cycle. You are becoming boring.
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She has been doing this for decades. The level of hatred suggests a need for analysis.
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Here's one fact for Ms. Dowd to chew on: Gallup's "most admired woman" in the world has been Hillary Clinton (wait for it)…. for the last 20 years! Guess who was the most admired man in the world ? President Barack Obama, or as Ms. Dowd refers to him, "Barry." I wonder if Ms. Dowd wonders how admired Mr. Trump truly is, or will ever be, in the outside chance he may occupy the Oval Office.
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I wish Dowd were working on her own likeability.
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Here's what the late, great had to say about being nice. "At home I'm a nice guy: But I don't want the world to know. Humble people, I've found, don't get very far."
Another commenter (@RimaRigas) wrote :
"There is a special hell for voters who vote against their own interests."
I would just like to add my two cents:
There is a special place in hell for for commenters who attempt to come between an American & his or her vote.
I'm tired of the condescending comments across the board here in these comments which pretty much imply that if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton, then you are ignorant.
Americans do not need to be scolded, lectured or ridiculed for their choice this election. That's positively un-american.
Just because some smug folks feel they know what's best for us and even for the country, alas, doesn't make it so.
I urge everyone to vote with their heart, their conscience & their best judgment. It's your choice...and no one else's business.
Seriously, the non-stop shaming of tSanders & Trump supporters is unbelievable...
"There is a special hell for voters who vote against their own interests."
I would just like to add my two cents:
There is a special place in hell for for commenters who attempt to come between an American & his or her vote.
I'm tired of the condescending comments across the board here in these comments which pretty much imply that if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton, then you are ignorant.
Americans do not need to be scolded, lectured or ridiculed for their choice this election. That's positively un-american.
Just because some smug folks feel they know what's best for us and even for the country, alas, doesn't make it so.
I urge everyone to vote with their heart, their conscience & their best judgment. It's your choice...and no one else's business.
Seriously, the non-stop shaming of tSanders & Trump supporters is unbelievable...
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Anyone who votes should vote according to what he or she feels "what's best for us and even for the country." Why else vote? Would you, Melinda, want us to vote according to what our god says? Or to our likes (or dislikes) of a candidate's wardrobe? Or to what the ouija board says?
Isn't our judgment based on what we believe is best for us?
What's yours based on?
Isn't our judgment based on what we believe is best for us?
What's yours based on?
The Clintons are like every other pol in this country. They will bend to the biggest campaign donors.
Hillary's flaws come by her own actions. She continues to spin the truth.
Her supporters attacked Bernie supporters instead of finding common ground. She and Wasserman are doing all they can to stifle his agenda at the DNC upcoming convention. The Democrats are losing their focus by underestimating his appeal.
What both parties fail to recognize is that both Trump and Bernie supporters with the way the middle class has been treated. Every campaign is about the Middle Class, yet it's the big donors that win when it comes to legislation and lack of Reforms.
The Clintons did help improve the economy by allowing banks and mortgage companies to deregulate. And we all know how that ended. Yet she guards her Wall Street speeches the way Trump guards his tax returns.
Yes, Hillary is the better candidate when you weigh the flaws, but those flaws have a way of putting her in hot water while Trump's flaws have been building him up. Believe me Trump plans out every stupid, racist, misogynistic thing that comes out of his mouth.
It's about TRUST Sally Field. That's what she has to overcome. I am voting for her out of fear of Trump and not because I trust she will do right by the middle class. No politician does. However, Progressives may hold back their votes because Hillary has shut them out. Unless she can unify the party, Trump is not the biggest hurdle.
Hillary's flaws come by her own actions. She continues to spin the truth.
Her supporters attacked Bernie supporters instead of finding common ground. She and Wasserman are doing all they can to stifle his agenda at the DNC upcoming convention. The Democrats are losing their focus by underestimating his appeal.
What both parties fail to recognize is that both Trump and Bernie supporters with the way the middle class has been treated. Every campaign is about the Middle Class, yet it's the big donors that win when it comes to legislation and lack of Reforms.
The Clintons did help improve the economy by allowing banks and mortgage companies to deregulate. And we all know how that ended. Yet she guards her Wall Street speeches the way Trump guards his tax returns.
Yes, Hillary is the better candidate when you weigh the flaws, but those flaws have a way of putting her in hot water while Trump's flaws have been building him up. Believe me Trump plans out every stupid, racist, misogynistic thing that comes out of his mouth.
It's about TRUST Sally Field. That's what she has to overcome. I am voting for her out of fear of Trump and not because I trust she will do right by the middle class. No politician does. However, Progressives may hold back their votes because Hillary has shut them out. Unless she can unify the party, Trump is not the biggest hurdle.
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So HIllary Clinton reads a speech written entirely by others from a teleprompter and she's a genius...
Got it.
The woman has no originality.
Got it.
The woman has no originality.
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So is Trump your choice?
How do you know who wrote the words on the teleprompter, Melinda?
And what has that to do with "originality," anyway?
And what has that to do with "originality," anyway?
Sure, with today's 24/7 "breaking news" cycle, Hillary couldn't make use of Adams's line about Jefferson being dead and therefore "unelectable," but an obvious paraphrase would be that her opponent is "dead from the neck up" and therefore unelectable! She basically already did that with her foreign policy speech last week, on a much more sophisticated level, and she ain't "lyin'"!
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"Given the slurs and punches and eggs and salacious, hellacious stuff flying around, this could be the wildest, meanest election in modern history."
And we can bet Maureen will be up front, throwing the most rotten eggs she can find, at Hillary.
And we can bet Maureen will be up front, throwing the most rotten eggs she can find, at Hillary.
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Likability?
First try candor, an issue she has still not addressed.
Perhaps screenwriter's like Sorkin and Lewis can guide her.
She need help in this area! (And I'm a fan.)
First try candor, an issue she has still not addressed.
Perhaps screenwriter's like Sorkin and Lewis can guide her.
She need help in this area! (And I'm a fan.)
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For someone who attacks The Donald for his poor spelling (judgement vs. judgment) it's comical that Maureen does not know the grammatical rule about the possessive being used before a gerund. ("...where you assume for too long that people will see Trump as a vainglorious vulgarian without you pointing it out.") And you write for one of the major news journals in the world? I suggest remedial bonehead English for you.
Disclaimer: I write this not as a fan of the narcissistic egomaniacal Trump but as one who detests arrogant journalists.
Disclaimer: I write this not as a fan of the narcissistic egomaniacal Trump but as one who detests arrogant journalists.
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You should "tweat" her
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The one thing I regret about Hillary being elected president is Maureen will snipe at her for four or eight years. Modo, get a new act.
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"Judgment" can be alternatively, and no less correctly, spelled "judgement". Not that I'm in any way defending Trump, cuz I in't. Still, it's healthy to let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out and deal with them.
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I'm just wondering what Germany's Angela Merkel went through before she wa
elected, re-elected, became the powerhouse of Europe.? I doubt if there was a
Dowdish person around to slam at her. However, since you are a woman, I'm also wondering if you have a historic, and let's face it understanding of what it
means for a woman to go for the presidency in this macho, crapo land of ours.
You should be heralding the change, pushing it forward and knock it off about the email issue which has become a political football along with Bengazi and the
history of lies and scams that Republicans created over the years. What's with you, Missy, you seem overly arrogant yourself!
elected, re-elected, became the powerhouse of Europe.? I doubt if there was a
Dowdish person around to slam at her. However, since you are a woman, I'm also wondering if you have a historic, and let's face it understanding of what it
means for a woman to go for the presidency in this macho, crapo land of ours.
You should be heralding the change, pushing it forward and knock it off about the email issue which has become a political football along with Bengazi and the
history of lies and scams that Republicans created over the years. What's with you, Missy, you seem overly arrogant yourself!
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Remember this: people chose Bush over Gore because he was more 'likeable'. Bush was the guy you wanted to have a beer with. And look what it got us. 8 years of disaster. I don't want to have a beer with the next president. I want the next president to be able to do the job and not ruin the country. I want Clinton.
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I'd rather back a vulgar candidate who talks straight from his heart for POTUS than a devious, lying woman who with her husband takes fees for speaking from anyone, whether or not she agrees with their motives.
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Donald Trump has never spoken "straight from the heart." That's why he completely reverses his positions a dozen times each day. You're being played.
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So this is a popularity contest. Are you going to vote for a fact-adverse, anti-woman, anti- LBGT rights, anti-science, anti-Mexican, anti -Muslim, anti-diplomacy, anti-trade, anti-gun control, “billionaire” narcissist bigot who in other times wouldn’t be elected dog catcher; or “the unlikable one”?
Who will you vote for Maureen? Inquiring minds want to know, or will you hide that as Trump has hidden his tax returns?
Tell me Maureen….are you Catholic? You know Fred Trump was a KKK sympathizer in his day and thought the Catholic Judges in New York needed to be taken from the bench. Now it is Mexican Judges. Is it O.K. with your buddy Trump that you are not of Germanic or Swedish origin? Unless he has the ability to “spill the beans” on you, then you need to take off the gloves and show some of those Hillary Hunter skills on Trump that you have spent so much time honing.
Who will you vote for Maureen? Inquiring minds want to know, or will you hide that as Trump has hidden his tax returns?
Tell me Maureen….are you Catholic? You know Fred Trump was a KKK sympathizer in his day and thought the Catholic Judges in New York needed to be taken from the bench. Now it is Mexican Judges. Is it O.K. with your buddy Trump that you are not of Germanic or Swedish origin? Unless he has the ability to “spill the beans” on you, then you need to take off the gloves and show some of those Hillary Hunter skills on Trump that you have spent so much time honing.
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Sadly, humans tend to believe what they hear over and over and over. Hillary is not likeable because FOX and fools say so, Hannity and Limbaugh say she is terrible, the Republican Party controlling Congress spends millions of tax dollars telling America that Hillary is responsible for the Iraq War and the tragic deaths of Americans in Benghazi. Maureen Dowd is stuck like a broken record playing Hillary flaws. Meanwhile, the worst person to ever run for the presidency in the history of our country, is getting the wink and nod from people we mistakenly believed were rational, serious and patriotic. If Jefferson and Adams lived today, America would be convinced Adams is a hermaphrodite and Jefferson, dead, is being played by Elvis who came out from his secret undisclosed hiding place.
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She's likable enough to be President of the United States.
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He didn't quite call him a hermaphrodite, the way it is being spun here. Jefferson called Adams "a blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who is a hideous hermaphroditic character with neither the force and fitness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."
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Gee, in between eating my fluffy pancakes (Thanks, Maureen, got them from the Beverly Hills Hate Hotel!), I was going to criticize Maureen for being even less likeable than the Hills...
Then I realized everyone else had.
So, I'll switch gears between bites...
Both the Donald and the Bern are intemperate old men; not likeable, not presidential and not going to win.
There, now that I said it (again), I can return to my pancakes and syrup. Yummm!
Then I realized everyone else had.
So, I'll switch gears between bites...
Both the Donald and the Bern are intemperate old men; not likeable, not presidential and not going to win.
There, now that I said it (again), I can return to my pancakes and syrup. Yummm!
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"She made a really good speech in San Diego."
Hold the presses everyone. Maureen actually gave Hillary a compliment.
Hold the presses everyone. Maureen actually gave Hillary a compliment.
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She had to concede that with the overwhelming consensus. But it was obviously painful for her to write it.
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. . . and took it back a paragraph later . . .
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Her speech was overshadowed by the violence against the white Trump supporters later that night.
Words are pretty,
but when lawlessness comes,
you need much much more than words.
You need to call the cleanup patrol, and let them get their hands dirty.
Words are pretty,
but when lawlessness comes,
you need much much more than words.
You need to call the cleanup patrol, and let them get their hands dirty.
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There you go again.
So, Ms. Dowd, how DO you like President Trump? Enough, already. We have a dragon to slay before it slays us all.
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MoDo if she knew how small she looks going after Hillary Clinton like a mean jealous girl trying to bring down a "Valedictorian was chosen by her peers to be the first student speaker to deliver a commencement address at Wellesley College."
Where was Trump then ? Bernie at that time was busy writing porno on rape fantasy.
Something undercurrent going on in NYT as I read from other posters , why the paper never went after Bernie Sanders even today for not releasing his tax returns prior to 2015 yet he is willing to start a brawl at the convention when he stand no chance.
Also posting personal information or agenda by some posters or outing other posters is below the belt for a major paper like Times.
Don`t the paper have paid moderators who should be neutral in their profession ?
Where was Trump then ? Bernie at that time was busy writing porno on rape fantasy.
Something undercurrent going on in NYT as I read from other posters , why the paper never went after Bernie Sanders even today for not releasing his tax returns prior to 2015 yet he is willing to start a brawl at the convention when he stand no chance.
Also posting personal information or agenda by some posters or outing other posters is below the belt for a major paper like Times.
Don`t the paper have paid moderators who should be neutral in their profession ?
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For some time now, where Hillary and Bill are concerned, Maureen Dowd has been grinding her personal axe. She would do far better to compare what positive qualities (if any, in Trump's case) the presumptive nominees would bring to the Oval Office than to prove once again to the NYTimes readership how she excels at being glib and sarcastic.
Clintonworld is arrogant? How, then, would she characterize Trumpworld? Less "vinegar and venom" and more constructive criticism would be a long overdue and welcome change from Ms. Dowd's constantly brittle column.
Clintonworld is arrogant? How, then, would she characterize Trumpworld? Less "vinegar and venom" and more constructive criticism would be a long overdue and welcome change from Ms. Dowd's constantly brittle column.
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I don't recall reading how Thatcher or Meir or Gandhi or Bhutto had to be likable to be elected.
Hillary is likable enough.
Hillary is likable enough.
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Both Indira and Benazir had that daddy thing going for them, their fathers were prominent political figures. Both Golda and Margaret did it on their own. Hillary has lived as First Lady, Arkansas and First Lady, USA, already, for several terms.
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As usual Maureen you are spot on. Jejune is the perfect descriptor for Mrs. Clinton.
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Are you going to vote for Trump, Maureen? Are you that dumb? You throw out criticisms of the man and then sit back and pummel Hillary, but to what end? Ben Ghazi and emails pail before the brash statements coming from this brainless mouth.
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Maureen, we all KNOW you hate Hillary Clinton. You've been telling us so since before the race began last year.
And you regularly down-play Donald Trump's false comments and tantrums.
So please, be honest: Admit it and endorse Donald Trump and tell us why His Meanness, His Tantrumness, His Factlessness, His Egoness, His Scam-artistness, His Misognynistness, His Anti-Latinoness, would make a better President than a moderate former Senator and Secretary of State.
C'mon, Maureen! Admit it! You WANT Donald Trump to beat Hillary Clinton and become our next President. Tell use why!
And you regularly down-play Donald Trump's false comments and tantrums.
So please, be honest: Admit it and endorse Donald Trump and tell us why His Meanness, His Tantrumness, His Factlessness, His Egoness, His Scam-artistness, His Misognynistness, His Anti-Latinoness, would make a better President than a moderate former Senator and Secretary of State.
C'mon, Maureen! Admit it! You WANT Donald Trump to beat Hillary Clinton and become our next President. Tell use why!
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I don't require my president to be likable; I feel the same about newspaper columnists.
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Leave aside the campaign between Jefferson and Adams (which, though rough, is often exaggerated a bit, as here) the problem for me is neither Trump's obnoxiousness or Clinton's inability to raise her voice without screeching and sounding phony (and no, other women politicians do not have the same problem - it's not misogyny to notice this in her - just unimportant). It's his combination of ignorance, bigotry and bullying that make him unsuitable for any office and her likelihood of continuing Obama's policies and her pandering to the degree that she won't say "all" lives matter or "radical Islamic terrorism." Neither should be president in my view and our national disgrace is not so much him as that these two are our only realistic choices. But, I know decent people who will vote for both and think that they are good or great candidates. We did have decent candidates like John Kasich, Jim Webb, Gary Johnson, but they didn't have the celebrity Americans seem to need or the right superficial genetic identity and none pandered so much that it turned the stomach. So, they are virtually ignored and we, as a people, one way or the other, will get what we deserve - another terrible president.
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More inconsequential blather!
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It's just so unfair not to like people you don't trust, people who always lie to you, people you regard as self serving hucksters.
Nutty is being repeatedly caught lying, and then lying more. thinking we are all too stupid to figure it out.
Now which one was I talking about?
Nutty is being repeatedly caught lying, and then lying more. thinking we are all too stupid to figure it out.
Now which one was I talking about?
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Hillary is not the perfect candidate. Hillary has demonstrated that she is truly tone deaf (see Goldman Sachs and the e-mail server). Yes, Hillary voted to go to war in Iraq. And yes, she did not have a strategy for Libya beyond removing the brutal dictator (sound familiar?).
And Hillary does not have the same ideals as Bernie.
But, after all that, Hillary is reasonable and sane. And in this election, that is all one needs to know.
And Hillary does not have the same ideals as Bernie.
But, after all that, Hillary is reasonable and sane. And in this election, that is all one needs to know.
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How sad that our two front-runner candidates both exhibit such appalling flaws in their characters, so that deciding which of them to elect will be a veritable Hobson's choice for millions.
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It will be interesting and I wait with anticipation, on future Dowd columns concerning the newly elected, President Hillary Clinton. Will trivial comparisons as expressed in this column continue. We are all looking for competence, in spite of past errors in behavior, that should occupy the seat in the Oval office.
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If Ms. Dowd wants to talk so much about personalities, I wish she'd do it in a more mature and substantive and productive fashion. With the power of her pen, how about pointing our shallow American sensibilities towards Germany, whose dour plain-faced, arguably "unlikable", female leader seems to be doing just fine, garners great respect the world over, and who doesn't seem to drawn disdain because of her hairdo, pantsuits, or other completely irrelevant outer accoutrements?
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My answer to Carol Colitti Levine of CPW who suggests a new stylist for Hillary—
You are missing the point. Her stylist is her strategist, or to borrow from McLuhan, the pantsuit is the message.
I think the Barney purple and the jailhouse orange are the fashion equivalent of the middle finger.
Consider her myriad missives:
JJill (albeit a $1000 knockoff)—to her demographic—"I'm just like you.")
Hamptons haute (to her donors—"I'm just like you. Fork up.")
Retro sofa (piped, stuffed and marled—to those on the fence—"I'm comfy.")
Williamsburg hipster (dark upper jacket, white lower to underscore her decided hip).
Edgy fringed.
And her old fascistic standbys if all else fails—the Mao and Klingon power jackets.
You are missing the point. Her stylist is her strategist, or to borrow from McLuhan, the pantsuit is the message.
I think the Barney purple and the jailhouse orange are the fashion equivalent of the middle finger.
Consider her myriad missives:
JJill (albeit a $1000 knockoff)—to her demographic—"I'm just like you.")
Hamptons haute (to her donors—"I'm just like you. Fork up.")
Retro sofa (piped, stuffed and marled—to those on the fence—"I'm comfy.")
Williamsburg hipster (dark upper jacket, white lower to underscore her decided hip).
Edgy fringed.
And her old fascistic standbys if all else fails—the Mao and Klingon power jackets.
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Who runs for the highest office in the land wearing a baseball cap and a suit? That should tell you everything you need to know about the Republican nominee. Instead of the cap saying "Make America Great Again," it should read "Make America White Again." That's the whole foundation of his candidacy.
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Clinton's use of a private e-mail server may be many things, but 'reckless' is a bridge too far, Ms. Dowd.
If the worst the IG can come up with is 'while not illegal' (which, translated, means, 'legal') then it's time to move on to the FBI.
Which is supposed to be figuring out if the was ever hacked.
So far, nothing.
Nada.
Meanwhile, you could run some stories about how the State Dept. itself was hacked by China ...
Finally, the server was only supposed to carry personal and non-classified information.
So why is the whole thing such a big deal?
Because the media has made it so.
If the worst the IG can come up with is 'while not illegal' (which, translated, means, 'legal') then it's time to move on to the FBI.
Which is supposed to be figuring out if the was ever hacked.
So far, nothing.
Nada.
Meanwhile, you could run some stories about how the State Dept. itself was hacked by China ...
Finally, the server was only supposed to carry personal and non-classified information.
So why is the whole thing such a big deal?
Because the media has made it so.
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It was worse than reckless; it was premeditated to obstruct access to them.
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The IG's report also was careful to mention that there was no evidence of malicious behavior or intent regarding HRC's email setup. This is just another case of failed far-right GOP operatives (in this case, the always-wrong Judicial Watch) creating an issue where none existed.
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Hillary is NO Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren gets it. Hillary does not. Hillary is following on Bill's legend. Now she is imitating Elizabeth Warren. First Hillary is for something before she isn't. Elizabeth (and Bernie) have both known what they stand for their entire life. Hillary not even close.
Regarding her emails. She flaunts the system because she thinks she is better than anyone else, that the rules are for everyone else and is she is entitled. Presidential because she spend 8 years in the White House?? Someone spends 8 years in the hospital as a nursing assistant, does that qualify them to be a nurse or a doctor?
Presidential because she was Secretary of State where she involved us in Libya and what else significant did she do besides jet setting around the world?
Presidential because she was in the Senate? What exactly was it she did during her term? Oh, I remember she voted for the war in Iraq. No backbone.
Presidential because she is a woman?
Mrs. Obama has some of those experiences and I would actually vote for her.
Hillary is NOT Elizabeth Warren and she is not Billy. In fact, she doesn't know who she is.
Regarding her emails. She flaunts the system because she thinks she is better than anyone else, that the rules are for everyone else and is she is entitled. Presidential because she spend 8 years in the White House?? Someone spends 8 years in the hospital as a nursing assistant, does that qualify them to be a nurse or a doctor?
Presidential because she was Secretary of State where she involved us in Libya and what else significant did she do besides jet setting around the world?
Presidential because she was in the Senate? What exactly was it she did during her term? Oh, I remember she voted for the war in Iraq. No backbone.
Presidential because she is a woman?
Mrs. Obama has some of those experiences and I would actually vote for her.
Hillary is NOT Elizabeth Warren and she is not Billy. In fact, she doesn't know who she is.
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Politics aside – the word, esp, is "flouts" not flaunts. Flaunt is what you do when your drive a Maserati or wear designers' initials on your handbag.
Thank you.
Maureen is angling for a Fox News contract. It's the only explanation.
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Ms Dowd and Mika Brezinski(sp) are birds of a feather, sitting in awe of 19th century snake oil salesman.
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They are my favorite. Two women unafraid to think.
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Functional, we need functional. Trump is not functional. Hillary is tho she seems unable to project that in a meaningful way to many who want a likable glow of leadership. We used to be a nation that had adults who really got "functional". Now we have middle school hater "tweets and adults who seem to think like angry birds unable run anything! The Democracy for which we stand is buried somewhere in there and needs to be summoned, quickly.
II can feel Maureen's pain in having to admit that HRC delivered a first rate speech. She is unable to give full credit to Hillary, but at least she allows a few words of praise. Of course everything Donald does is funny or cute and Bernie is still lurking( and Maureen hoping he pulls out a miracle)) but just maybe she is seeing the handwriting on the wall.
Wise up, Dowd. HRC is going to be our next President.
Wise up, Dowd. HRC is going to be our next President.
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No need to be snarky about "judgement" as a spelling. It is perfectly legitimate and many grammarians prefer it because the e after the g makes the g a soft rather than hard consonant, ie g as in "go" and not g as in "giraffe".
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Yes, I suppose you could say Trump is playful -- if you consider a cat playful who is tormenting a trapped mouse before eating it. Whatever Hillary's failures of 'ease' and 'likeability', at least she thinks like an American. Trump is more like a South American dictator with no moral gyroscope to tell him when he has stepped over the line. Maureen is straining out gnats and swallowing camels. On the one hand we have a candidate with many achievements to compensate for her flaws. On the other we have a man who hates people and wants to be allowed to govern 300 million of them. The tone of Ms. Dowd's article is all wrong, as if she were a judge in a pie throwing contest at a State Fair. This is not just an election with more mud than usual; it's a crisis for the American people. A bit of gravitas from a serious thinker would be welcome at this time.
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I don't know who writes these headlines but this is pure "click-bait." Unworthy of the NYT and Maureen Dowd. The column is good, interesting and prescient but the headline does it a disservice relegating it to the supermarket check-out line with the other ridiculous tabloid headline!
Wouldn't a national poll on Maureen Dowd's likeability be a revelation?
Maureen is not running for office
Nor is she falsely claims wins and credits when none ever existed
And definitely not playing a victimhood/why me card to gain power and money.
Nor is she falsely claims wins and credits when none ever existed
And definitely not playing a victimhood/why me card to gain power and money.
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Was Adams a hermaphrodite? More importantly, is the Don … for a playwright's view of that Trump White House on a Halloween night, check out AW, DONNY! … http://tinyurl.com/ha43k94
Fawlty Towers meets House of Cards. It's a gas.
Fawlty Towers meets House of Cards. It's a gas.
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Maureen, you just can seem to shake your obsessions regarding Hillary Clinton. Your snarky columns sound more and more like something written out of a high school newspaper. It's time to move past the 1990's and to grow up. She may have her flaws but nothing compared to Donald Trump--who is unfit in every respect to be president.
Maybe you should have the same laser like focus on him for a change.
Maybe you should have the same laser like focus on him for a change.
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Is Maureen Dowd's constant attempts to take down HRC due to the fact that she is not be granted "access" unlike what appears to be her new-found buddy, Dodgy Donald?
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If Hillary Clinton has a problem, it's that she has not figured out how to vanquish friends. Obama is a fellow Democrat and Sanders is an ally. She was overcome by Obama in '08 and struggled with Sanders in this cycle.
But she has worn Sanders down and will win the nomination and move on to the area she knows much better and is more comfortable in - taking on the GOP.
Hillary has taken them on again and again. The last time they had the guts to go toe to toe, it was the latest incarnation of the ongoing GOP Benghazi inquisition. Hillary made the tag-team inquisitors look foolish. And she was the only one under oath,
It was to be expected. She has stood up to this form of treatment from Republicans for the past quarter-century. She has thrived in spite of it.
So now she gets to go after the GOP's Presidential pick - the rather erratic Donald Trump. She finally gets the opportunity to be on offense.
I expect she will eviscerate him.
I suspect secretly, she will love every moment of it.
Every single moment.
But she has worn Sanders down and will win the nomination and move on to the area she knows much better and is more comfortable in - taking on the GOP.
Hillary has taken them on again and again. The last time they had the guts to go toe to toe, it was the latest incarnation of the ongoing GOP Benghazi inquisition. Hillary made the tag-team inquisitors look foolish. And she was the only one under oath,
It was to be expected. She has stood up to this form of treatment from Republicans for the past quarter-century. She has thrived in spite of it.
So now she gets to go after the GOP's Presidential pick - the rather erratic Donald Trump. She finally gets the opportunity to be on offense.
I expect she will eviscerate him.
I suspect secretly, she will love every moment of it.
Every single moment.
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On the final day of his two term Presidency that was replete with large scale incarceration of minorities, Bill Clinton issued a presidential pardon to Marc Rich who had been indicted on federal charges of tax evasion and of illegal trade deals with the Iranian Ayatollah.
We know that Donald Trump was able to buy Hilary and Bill for a few tens of thousands of dollars.
What confidence can Americans have, that Hilary like Bill before her as in the abominable Rich case, would not as President, make equally horrific decisions, based on the ease with which the Clintons have demonstrated that they can be bought.
We know that Donald Trump was able to buy Hilary and Bill for a few tens of thousands of dollars.
What confidence can Americans have, that Hilary like Bill before her as in the abominable Rich case, would not as President, make equally horrific decisions, based on the ease with which the Clintons have demonstrated that they can be bought.
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"Bill Clinton issued a presidential pardon to Marc Rich who had been indicted on federal charges of tax evasion and of illegal trade deals with the Iranian Ayatollah."
Not only that,
Marc Rich escaped to Switzerland.Then promptly renounce his American citizenship. He was on the FBI top 10 most wanted list.
He got his pardon for 400k "donation" to the Clinton library!
Not only that,
Marc Rich escaped to Switzerland.Then promptly renounce his American citizenship. He was on the FBI top 10 most wanted list.
He got his pardon for 400k "donation" to the Clinton library!
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Every left-handed compliment Maureen Dowd gives to Hilary Clinton is the definition of "damning with faint praise" and no doubt proffered with a distinctly "curled lip."
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Where did Ms. Dowd's hatred of the Clinton's originate? Did they snub her in some way while Bill was president? Not allow her an interview? Just what is behind the venom she keeps spewing towards them?
Then, you have to wonder why Maureen is so easy on Trump. Did they date at one time? Does she live in one of his buildings where she is afraid of getting evicted if she bad-mouths him? Whatever it is, she is way too nice to him as if she is afraid to offend him.
Then, you have to wonder why Maureen is so easy on Trump. Did they date at one time? Does she live in one of his buildings where she is afraid of getting evicted if she bad-mouths him? Whatever it is, she is way too nice to him as if she is afraid to offend him.
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If this email thing was so important to the Inspector General, why did he not meet and greet the new Sec. of State and lay out the rules? And why are you not mentioning that previous Sec of States used their private email servers? So why not investigate this so called Inspector who seems to have generally dropped the ball?
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"If this email thing was so important to the Inspector General, why did he not meet and greet the new Sec. of State and lay out the rules?" Jacquelyn
Thank you! I can explain...there was no IG at the State Dept. when Hillary was there. If there was an oversight in oversight, it was Obama's. If he feels any responsibility for the prosperity and safety of our country he should own it.
As to the private server idiocy, Colin Powell did not print out or hand over his emails AT ALL and he was there for the Iraq debacle. Talk about double standards! Not a peep from Dowd about that while she again slanders Clinton by saddling her with the responsibility for the Iraq war.
Honestly, anyone would think Hillary has been in sole charge of our government since 1992 and is running for a 7th term.
Thank you! I can explain...there was no IG at the State Dept. when Hillary was there. If there was an oversight in oversight, it was Obama's. If he feels any responsibility for the prosperity and safety of our country he should own it.
As to the private server idiocy, Colin Powell did not print out or hand over his emails AT ALL and he was there for the Iraq debacle. Talk about double standards! Not a peep from Dowd about that while she again slanders Clinton by saddling her with the responsibility for the Iraq war.
Honestly, anyone would think Hillary has been in sole charge of our government since 1992 and is running for a 7th term.
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In a column chock full of political nonsequiturs masquerading as slams against Hillary Clinton, I'll point out just one. You claim that Trump can slam her on the Iraq War because she voted for it. You do know that the Iraq War was a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican G W Bush administration and that Trump is running as a Republican. You do know that, don't you?
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You do understand that Trump has eliminated the pro-war Bush people from the Republican party, right? It was quite the schism.
In contrast, President Obama has been carrying out George W. Bush's plans in Iraq, "retaking" the nation, and has helped to destabilize many many more Iraqs too. The refugee crisis is unfolding... on his watch.
He is "Obama.. Out". Good for public relations visits to Japan and VietNam now, but lettting the military solicit their own targets, and go anywhere in the world they like to killl whomever their "intelligence" deems a threat. (Hence the bombing of the hospitals when our military allies tell us to bomb hospitals.)
Obama and his family are fine as showpieces, but someone has to step up and do the job now that he was unable to accomplish via diplomacy or military action(s). It's costing too much now, and we're killing too many.
Hillary and Barack are just George W. Bush on autopilot. Truth hurts, huh?
In contrast, President Obama has been carrying out George W. Bush's plans in Iraq, "retaking" the nation, and has helped to destabilize many many more Iraqs too. The refugee crisis is unfolding... on his watch.
He is "Obama.. Out". Good for public relations visits to Japan and VietNam now, but lettting the military solicit their own targets, and go anywhere in the world they like to killl whomever their "intelligence" deems a threat. (Hence the bombing of the hospitals when our military allies tell us to bomb hospitals.)
Obama and his family are fine as showpieces, but someone has to step up and do the job now that he was unable to accomplish via diplomacy or military action(s). It's costing too much now, and we're killing too many.
Hillary and Barack are just George W. Bush on autopilot. Truth hurts, huh?
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Interesting to read two Times columnists' (Dowd and Collins) take on Hillary's speech about Don the Con last Thursday. My own take, not that anyone should especially care: The speech was well written and well delivered, and when you can draw genuine laughs by repeating someone's words that were spoken in earnest at the time they were spoken, well, that's a winning strategy. Her purpose hopefully seems to be: Call Donald unhinged, and then sit back for a couple of days and watch him do his best to prove it. Rule No. 1 in politics: When your opponent is self immolating, do not get in the way.
No need to worry about "revealing" such a strategy. As anyone who has kids knows, many 14-year-olds have poor impulse control. Donald is undoubtedly surrounded by adults who are counseling impulse control, but by now it's abundantly clear that counseling Donald about impulse control is about as doomed to failure as advising your 14-year-old that he or she might want to take an occasional break from Twitter and other social media platforms, just to give everyone else a break.
No need to worry about "revealing" such a strategy. As anyone who has kids knows, many 14-year-olds have poor impulse control. Donald is undoubtedly surrounded by adults who are counseling impulse control, but by now it's abundantly clear that counseling Donald about impulse control is about as doomed to failure as advising your 14-year-old that he or she might want to take an occasional break from Twitter and other social media platforms, just to give everyone else a break.
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Hillary is playing Donald's game now...
If she is so smart, and has such a great plan for fixing President Obama's foreign policy and economy, then why is she trash talking now?
Because... Bernie has ripped her to shreds on the issues that matter to voters. Circle the wagons, gals, and keep the men out of the photo ops: if black v. white proved winning for Obama, then surely boys v. girls will help put Hillary over the hump, right?
Sadly, this is what passes for political analysis these days. Divided we are falling, and fast!
If she is so smart, and has such a great plan for fixing President Obama's foreign policy and economy, then why is she trash talking now?
Because... Bernie has ripped her to shreds on the issues that matter to voters. Circle the wagons, gals, and keep the men out of the photo ops: if black v. white proved winning for Obama, then surely boys v. girls will help put Hillary over the hump, right?
Sadly, this is what passes for political analysis these days. Divided we are falling, and fast!
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Hillary as everyone knows is a disaster, wait, make that a mega disaster. She is an embarrassment to herself and the Democrat party. There is only one place for her: prison. Bernie should be the nominee and is the nominee for any Democrat who thinks. Problem is there just aren't enough of them.
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All this bad press HTC is getting is nothing but the result of 3 decades of right-wing allegations of non-existing crimes and misdemeanors and ridiculous conspiracy theories. Her one mistake? Voting for the Iraq war after being lied to by the Bush/Cheney cabal. More than 20 million e-mails vanished during the Bush years, but, I guess, that's okay--move along; these are not the e-mails we're willing to talk about. What drivel.
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Ryan didn't drag himself anywhere. He is right there, genuflecting like all the rest of the fake "patriotic" Republicans.
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Ms. Dowd: Your aggression and venom against the Clintons is getting really out of control. We are looking down the abyss of a Fascist dictator sneaking into the White House, and here you are, pontificating on whether Hillary has apologized sufficiently for using a personal e-mail server? From which stupid planet to you hail Ms. Dowd? Why does the New York Times continue to keep you on the payroll? God, I cannot stand your viciousness and sheer stupidity anymore! What kind of insanity makes you hate the Obamas and the Clintons, while giving the orange-haired monster a pass?
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Maureen,
I read this twice, and, still cannot derive the message or theme from this week's look at the campaign circus?
Usually, you have one point, and, provide a variety of interesting background and information to support that theme.
But, this week? Seems like we are wandering around here?
Is the point that Hilarity is unlikable? (everyone would agree and we need no examples, everyone has one from their own personal archives).
Is the point that Trump is nutty, funny and dangerous? (everyone would agree and we need no examples, everyone has their own).
Is the point that Weiner is a porn addict, and, vainly attempting to become a porn star through cell phone messaging?
Or is your point that the entire process is nutty, a farce, and populated with mentally unstable, (Trump), paranoid and secretive (Hillary) and porn addicted (Weiner) like the movie "Idiocracy".....?
Let us know.
I read this twice, and, still cannot derive the message or theme from this week's look at the campaign circus?
Usually, you have one point, and, provide a variety of interesting background and information to support that theme.
But, this week? Seems like we are wandering around here?
Is the point that Hilarity is unlikable? (everyone would agree and we need no examples, everyone has one from their own personal archives).
Is the point that Trump is nutty, funny and dangerous? (everyone would agree and we need no examples, everyone has their own).
Is the point that Weiner is a porn addict, and, vainly attempting to become a porn star through cell phone messaging?
Or is your point that the entire process is nutty, a farce, and populated with mentally unstable, (Trump), paranoid and secretive (Hillary) and porn addicted (Weiner) like the movie "Idiocracy".....?
Let us know.
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As talented as Lin-Manuel Miranda of “Hamilton” is, his political statement here lacks context. Then and now are not equivalent. That this gives you "hope" is bewildering, for one who should know this.
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Ms. Dowd has a point. Likeability is an important quality in a presidential candidate in an age of mass media. LBJ, JFK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton yes even George Bush was likeable before he became hateable. And every candidate since Richard Nixon has been a guy we could identify with on some level.
Both of the current 'front runners' are not that. Trump is not unattractive until he opens his mouth leading his handlers to try to keep him quiet as much as possible and the major media to cease carrying his rallies now he's the one.
Hilary is a nerd. Yes, a smart woman who could (and should) do a stint on The Big bang Theory. Her 'riposte' is not ready for prime time playground and always comes off awkward and studied without freshness. She seems to have practiced each line and its dull and flat.
The problem though is not a lack of attractiveness, its a lack of inspiration. A good presidential candidate needs to inspire us to follow him or her. Elizabeth Warren has shown she can be inspirational. Donald Trump inspires the few who think the way he does. Bernie is the essence of inspiration and Hilary? Not so much. Like Martha Coakley she comes off as a party hack whose 'turn' has come and we just have to like it. Sad.
Both of the current 'front runners' are not that. Trump is not unattractive until he opens his mouth leading his handlers to try to keep him quiet as much as possible and the major media to cease carrying his rallies now he's the one.
Hilary is a nerd. Yes, a smart woman who could (and should) do a stint on The Big bang Theory. Her 'riposte' is not ready for prime time playground and always comes off awkward and studied without freshness. She seems to have practiced each line and its dull and flat.
The problem though is not a lack of attractiveness, its a lack of inspiration. A good presidential candidate needs to inspire us to follow him or her. Elizabeth Warren has shown she can be inspirational. Donald Trump inspires the few who think the way he does. Bernie is the essence of inspiration and Hilary? Not so much. Like Martha Coakley she comes off as a party hack whose 'turn' has come and we just have to like it. Sad.
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"Trump is not unattractive until he opens his mouth?" The photos of him with that sneering face are some of the ugliest images I have ever seen.
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As John Oliver said (accurately!), "smug yet gassy."
Today’s column by Maureen Dowd begrudgingly acknowledges that Hillary Clinton gave a good speech in San Diego. Ms. Dowd then offers several effective rejoinders which Donald Trump could use to deflect the new Clinton offensive.
Fundamental fairness requires that The New York Times should grant any request Maureen Dowd makes for a leave of absence to become Trump’s chief speechwriter for the next five months.
Ms. Dowd would be good at it. She would relieve us of having to hear Trump’s incoherent vulgarity on the news every day. She would give us a break every Sunday from her column’s snide attacks on Clinton
Fundamental fairness requires that The New York Times should grant any request Maureen Dowd makes for a leave of absence to become Trump’s chief speechwriter for the next five months.
Ms. Dowd would be good at it. She would relieve us of having to hear Trump’s incoherent vulgarity on the news every day. She would give us a break every Sunday from her column’s snide attacks on Clinton
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How upsetting to New York Times readers that it has at least one opinion writer that doesn't fawn over every democrat. Especially an obviously corrupt one.
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"She has not forthrightly taken responsibility or explained how she could stonewall the State Department inspector general. She’s still acting as though what she did was acceptable — “Well, it was allowed,” she says — even though the inspector general has made it clear that it wasn’t and that she never bothered to ask for permission to use a private email server. It was a request that would have been rejected had she made it, he said." Dowd
For Hillarys entire tenure at State, there was no IG for her to ask for permission. How he could have declined permission when he didn't exist at the time is an odd speculation. Her predecessor used a similar arrangement, though it is safe to say Powell's system was less secure than the private server used by the Clintons. The State Department actually was hacked successfully.
The pile ons get tiring, especially coming from Dowd. Again.
For Hillarys entire tenure at State, there was no IG for her to ask for permission. How he could have declined permission when he didn't exist at the time is an odd speculation. Her predecessor used a similar arrangement, though it is safe to say Powell's system was less secure than the private server used by the Clintons. The State Department actually was hacked successfully.
The pile ons get tiring, especially coming from Dowd. Again.
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give it a rest, maureen. it is you who are johnny one-note, obsessed with the very competent and likable hillary clinton and her husband bill. you need a break. take a vacation and look at the world around you. surely you can find some new topics to insult and malign.
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What's with the meaningless headline? The column is an feeble attempt to equate Clinton and Trump's imperfections, but it's like comparing the measles to malignant cancer. My God, can anyone ever imagine Hillary Clinton gleefully mocking a disabled person?
Brace yourself, Maureen: Con Man Don, the object of your schoolgirl fantasies, is about to self-destruct.
www.newyorkgritty.net
Brace yourself, Maureen: Con Man Don, the object of your schoolgirl fantasies, is about to self-destruct.
www.newyorkgritty.net
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what a waste of time
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Isn't Ms. Dowd the person who fell hook, line, and sinker for Demagogue Don the Con's claim that he was against the Iraq War when there is audio evidence to the contrary?
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It's really sad...even tragic that Sally Fields feels compelled to make the pathetic argument that Hillary's wide spread unpopularity shouldn’t be disqualifying — when we all know that it is ....how can it not be? Hillary supporters should give thanks to whatever God they pray to that her opponent is a train wreck like Trump. Any other reasonable candidate ...any other ...would have no trouble beating her in the general election. The email scandal is not going to go away....the incredibly clumsy way she has handled it makes it worse. She just doesn't engender any confidence that she would be a good President. Her arrogance and cluelessness may do her in yet. How did we get to this?
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Let me ask you, Bobsmith, since you're such a thoughtful fellow, have you asked yourself where Colin Powell's emails went? We don't have any of them and he was there for the entire Iraq debacle. He gave cover to Bush/Cheney and made Iraq more palatable to the American people. Where are HIS emails?
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Tough coming up with a topic for a column, even in this political season, eh, Maureen? Not your best work, but a credible summary of the week's folly.
The best part, of course, was the headline, and the last graf. In particular, I thought your choice of "nutty" to describe Trump's racist attack on the judge fell way short. Although, as indictments go, we clearly don't want "nutty" in the white house.
Perhaps the judge will cite Trump for contemp. Now THAT would add to our amusement.
The best part, of course, was the headline, and the last graf. In particular, I thought your choice of "nutty" to describe Trump's racist attack on the judge fell way short. Although, as indictments go, we clearly don't want "nutty" in the white house.
Perhaps the judge will cite Trump for contemp. Now THAT would add to our amusement.
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Thought experiment: I wonder what would be said or written regarding the perceived likability of a hermaphrodite for president? Man or women or both? Perhaps, only then will these man versus woman stereotypes become moot and rightly die finally ending this 20th century nonsense. Imagine the collective cognitive dissonance! Never say never.
In my mind, it is a choice between an intellectual or a Philistine.
In my mind, it is a choice between an intellectual or a Philistine.
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So funny. A billion "we should be scared of Trump" comments. Gosh people, Ted Cruz was talking about carpet bombing and calling Trans people child molesters. Trump is saying we need to not have more wars and we should enforce our immigration laws. I mean, he's a jerk for sure. But like I've written before....The Presidency of the US is not a dictatorship. He can ruin the Republican party, but Trump is not going to cause the apocalypse. Calm down people and start making more rational decisions and comments lol.
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If critical race theory and intersectionality are real, then how can the judge in the Trump U case be unbiased.
It seems like only one could be true
It seems like only one could be true
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Ian, by your standard, no one could ever be a judge. While that works in theory for the Christian religion in which Jesus preached "judge not that you not be judged" in practice I have found Christians to be extremely judge mental people, at least as it is practiced in the United States.
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ian,
Given Donald's antics, it seems to me that if everyone who is biased against him had to recuse himself or herself, that would include all sane people.
Given Donald's antics, it seems to me that if everyone who is biased against him had to recuse himself or herself, that would include all sane people.
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Why do I always know what a Maureen Dowd Op Ed piece is going to say before I read it? NYT, please give this prime space to a more thoughtful writer; our country faces some pretty serious challenges.
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Tapper gamely tried to point out, more than once, that the judge, Gonzalo Curiel, was born and raised in Indiana.
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Meaningless in the context Trump was citing. I saw Tapper, he seemed confused, unable to grok the difference between, say, a NY or Boston Irishman supporting the IRA with (illegal) contributions, while working in an Irish-heavy police or fire department, with allegiance only to your comrades and the Union rulebook. At work, you're just another employee, but at home -- where all your allegiances flourish - you are an Irish boyo who hates all things British, since The Famine.
Of course there is a creditable question of the Judge's impartiality, esp. since his group awards a scholarship annually to an Illegal Alien. Connect the dots, folks.
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Meaningless in the context Trump was citing. I saw Tapper, he seemed confused, unable to grok the difference between, say, a NY or Boston Irishman supporting the IRA with (illegal) contributions, while working in an Irish-heavy police or fire department, with allegiance only to your comrades and the Union rulebook. At work, you're just another employee, but at home -- where all your allegiances flourish - you are an Irish boyo who hates all things British, since The Famine.
Of course there is a creditable question of the Judge's impartiality, esp. since his group awards a scholarship annually to an Illegal Alien. Connect the dots, folks.
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What's noteworthy about this column are not the many gibes against Hillary but Dowd's willingness to land punches against Trump without explaining them away. Throwaway lines likeTrump's "peculiar" combination of viciousness and playfulness", his "nutty attack on the judge", 'his thin skin" give one hope that Dowd is finally seeing the light about the fatally flawed and dangerous Republican nominee.
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If Hillary Clinton were running against Mitt Romney, Democrats would be less hysterical, but just as insistent that she must beat him due to 4 possible SCOTUS nominations and the Democratic platform.
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I have been trying to mold my jejunosity into a ball to throw at somebody. All I can manage is a slanderectomy. But it only works in Vermont.
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If your boyfriend. Trump wasn't so openly racist, he would have a better chance. The Trump College Fraud is going to leave a mark.
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What, exactly, was the point of this column? Was it to beat the dead horse email server again? We don't care about the email server. No state secrets were hacked. You're beginning to sound like a hack -- relentlessly pounding away at the Clintons. You want that reckless, feckless, self-absorbed idiot running this country? Get some perspective here, woman -- this is about the presidency of this country!
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Glad you know all about Hillary's server. Maybe you could share that with the FBI and save them the time and money?
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When you have a Republican House and Senate willing to commit the FBI to a far-right witch hunt against the leading Democratic presidential candidate, costs are never an obstacle.
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The entertainment media culture definitely reduced the two billion-dollar Obama presidential campaigns to a high school favorites election.
Not a single fact was asked about or dug up other than the promise that Obama would change healthcare and the other campaign promises.
This is why NBC - the Democratic Party's go-to microphone - had anchors discussing how little anyone knew about Obama in Election Night 2008.
So now non-presentable Hillary pays the tab for the Kardashian Culture the media are saddling us with. Of course, if the news scene matched up with the 1950's through 990's news attitude, she'd be in even worse shape.
Not a single fact was asked about or dug up other than the promise that Obama would change healthcare and the other campaign promises.
This is why NBC - the Democratic Party's go-to microphone - had anchors discussing how little anyone knew about Obama in Election Night 2008.
So now non-presentable Hillary pays the tab for the Kardashian Culture the media are saddling us with. Of course, if the news scene matched up with the 1950's through 990's news attitude, she'd be in even worse shape.
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I seem to recall Obama being the most thoroughly vetted presidential candidate of my lifetime (which is long). And part of that extensive vetting process was due to Donald Trump's insane insistence that Obama was not born in the United States.
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Donald, clearly "Lying Hillary" doesn't do it for your electorate. Everybody already gets that, but "Nutty Hillary"?!
Is Maureen Dowd capable of ever writing a likeable enough column about Hillary Clinton? Sadly, no.
With all of Trump's despicable comments and behavior. "tart-tongued presumptive nominee" is the the best you've got? That's just sad.
With all of Trump's despicable comments and behavior. "tart-tongued presumptive nominee" is the the best you've got? That's just sad.
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"Women have spent the last hundred years trying to get out from under the expectation that they had to be sugar and spice and everything nice..."
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Mission Accomplished, amazonia. As seen on TV each week, women murder almost as often as men do, one reason why antifreeze now has a distasteful additive in it when sweetie offers you a kidney-killing smoothie, or a frozen margarita.
My fondest wish for my 3 grandsons age 4 - 11 is that they never get married without an ironclad prenup, and preferably in a Covenant Marriage state like North Carolina. "All's fair in love and war, but only with an attorney on your speed dial, boys." In due course they'll learn that Love is just a 4-letter word, because that's the way America rolls.
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Mission Accomplished, amazonia. As seen on TV each week, women murder almost as often as men do, one reason why antifreeze now has a distasteful additive in it when sweetie offers you a kidney-killing smoothie, or a frozen margarita.
My fondest wish for my 3 grandsons age 4 - 11 is that they never get married without an ironclad prenup, and preferably in a Covenant Marriage state like North Carolina. "All's fair in love and war, but only with an attorney on your speed dial, boys." In due course they'll learn that Love is just a 4-letter word, because that's the way America rolls.
What a truly ridiculous (and way off topic) post. I'm really unsure where "Amazonia" comes from in your fevered imagination. No, women do NOT murder at the same rate men do. Statistically speaking, you are much safer from us than we are from you. And antifreeze has that bitter additive to prevent our pets and kids from accidentally ingesting it. No one added it to save men from poisoned margarita additives. You aren't exactly an endangered species, Mr. MRA...and if the way you "roll" is to call the female of the species "sweetie" I quite comprehend that at some point a woman might have wanted to kill you. Hopefully your grandsons are kept well away from you so you can't poison their young minds.
Hopefully your grandsons are kept well away from you so you can't poison their young minds.
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One hopes you will keep hoping. Check H K Fowler on usage, who's also a sweetie, etymologically.
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One hopes you will keep hoping. Check H K Fowler on usage, who's also a sweetie, etymologically.
(Or, as Trump spells it in his tweets, “judgement.”)
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www.italian-renaissance-art.com/Last-Judgement.html
"The Last Judgement by Michelangelo covers the wall behind the altar in the Sistine Chapel. The work depicts the second coming of Christ and, although the artist is...."
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Michelangelo saw nothing wrong with "Judgement," so why would Donald Trump?
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www.italian-renaissance-art.com/Last-Judgement.html
"The Last Judgement by Michelangelo covers the wall behind the altar in the Sistine Chapel. The work depicts the second coming of Christ and, although the artist is...."
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Michelangelo saw nothing wrong with "Judgement," so why would Donald Trump?
Perhaps Michelangelo saw nothing wrong with the spelling of judgment because he wasn't literate in English, Charles.
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I hadn't considered that, Rea. I should ask Giordano Bruno.
"Weiner tweated"? I wouldn't want to see that.
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Judgement is a legitimate spelling.
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I've never met Hillary Clinton but every person (8-10 maybe) I've met in the last 25 years who has spent time with Hillary Clinton liked her - admittedly they were not media elites like Ms Dowd or political elites -- but Sally Fields is right. It's not really important. We got George Bush because more people would rather have a beer with him than Gore - or Kerry in 04 - that and the whole Nader debacle of course. And on the bright side Ms Dowd's column today has more substance than just catty Clinton hating that has dominated Clinton columns she's written for years - so that's progress, a little less same old same old. Maybe she'll get bigger picture after the primaries are over and hopefully we'll get relief from commenters complaining Bernie isn't getting enough media love and Clinton isn't getting enough media hate.
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I wonder what the explanation/backstory is for Ms. Dowd's jaundiced view of all things Hillary.... Has Ms. Dowd ever observed a single positive characteristic in Ms. Clinton?
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"With its typical arrogance, Clintonworld can go too far" (just one example of many in this column).
Oh Lord, here we go again. I would have thought that eight years of sinking her viperish teeth in both Clintons (1992-2000) would be enough for Maureen Dowd. No way! The venom-sacs are full to overflowing again and desperately need to be drained in Clintonflesh.
I stopped reading Ms. Dowd about midway through Bill Clinton's eight years in the presidency. I'm going to have to stop again, probably before the November election. It's too bad, really. Ms. Dowd turned 64 this past January, and, it seems, this once extremely winsome Irish writer with that inimitable Irish golden tongue, is never going to mellow. As she ages, she'll boil herself down to essence of gall and wormwood, without realizing just how bitter she has become, how far over the hill she is.
Such a pity.
Oh Lord, here we go again. I would have thought that eight years of sinking her viperish teeth in both Clintons (1992-2000) would be enough for Maureen Dowd. No way! The venom-sacs are full to overflowing again and desperately need to be drained in Clintonflesh.
I stopped reading Ms. Dowd about midway through Bill Clinton's eight years in the presidency. I'm going to have to stop again, probably before the November election. It's too bad, really. Ms. Dowd turned 64 this past January, and, it seems, this once extremely winsome Irish writer with that inimitable Irish golden tongue, is never going to mellow. As she ages, she'll boil herself down to essence of gall and wormwood, without realizing just how bitter she has become, how far over the hill she is.
Such a pity.
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Maureen Dowd is not likable...enough.
Enough of her that is.
Enough of her that is.
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While I disagree with Hillary on a few policy issues and decisions, I like her as a personality. I'm a guy who is baffled by the animosity towards her, and the general agreement amongst the punditry that she's universally unlikeable. On the other hand, I've mostly avoided reading snarky Maureen Dowd for years because I see her observations as shallow and derivative, and I find that her snarky attitude makes Ms. Dowd unlikable. Mrs. Clinton, not so much. I find her likable.
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"As usual with Hillary, she clearly feels the only problem was that people found out. It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was."
I guess Maureen Dowd hates Hilary so much that she wants Donald to be our next president.
I guess Maureen Dowd hates Hilary so much that she wants Donald to be our next president.
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Will we recover from this national insanity?
We all of us should go out a plant a tree.
We all of us should go out a plant a tree.
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There are mountains of mud to be flung on both sides but Hillary has yet to make a case for actually receiving my vote. I must admit, I was bamboozled by Obama's appeal - in 2008 - but a toothy grin from Clinton makes me cringe. The only thing she inspires me to do is keep frantically hitting my snooze button until November 9th.
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This is going to be a nasty, scorch earth election and in the end I just hope Hillary is elected and I am Bernie Sanders supporter. I cannot imagine what this country will be like with a president Trump and a republican legislature and a right wing Supreme Court. I know Hillary is far from perfect, bur she is qualified to be president, Trump is not.
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Maureen - please go work for Drumpf and stop wasting ink.
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After floundering, her campaign has now settled on a strategy of painting the mogul as unhinged and thin-skinned,
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After floundering, wash the salt spray off the engine, hose down the tackle, recycle the empty soda and beer cans, ice the fish -- "flatties" and "doormats" -- and enjoy one of the ocean's best brain foods.
Be careful not to founder in the rip current by the jetty on the way back to the dock. Watch the following sea.
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After floundering, wash the salt spray off the engine, hose down the tackle, recycle the empty soda and beer cans, ice the fish -- "flatties" and "doormats" -- and enjoy one of the ocean's best brain foods.
Be careful not to founder in the rip current by the jetty on the way back to the dock. Watch the following sea.
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Once again, Charles, you've embarrassed yourself (see "Michelangelo vs judgment.")
Founder means sink. Flounder is to flail about (much like the fish), without a good grasp on a situation.
One can get back on track after floundering. When a ship founders, it's usually sunk.
Founder means sink. Flounder is to flail about (much like the fish), without a good grasp on a situation.
One can get back on track after floundering. When a ship founders, it's usually sunk.
How sedulous, Rea. Pass me the dramamine.
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I am trying to make sense of the New York Times politics as projected through its columnists. So Krugman and Blow are clearly in the Hillary camp. Brooks and Douhat are conservative and Republicans but are resisting jumping on the Trump train.
The Trump columnist is Dowd.
La Señora Dowd seems to have an extraordinary amount of vitriol that she aims at both Clintons. At the same time, she flaunts her access to Donald Trump and consistently gives legitimacy to his candidacy and wild utterings, while all the time denying that she is lending any support to him.
Have I got this right?
In Latin America, it is well understood that in order to understand what a journalist is really saying -especial an opinion writer -- you must first know his/her ideology and party affiliation. Only then does what one reads begin to make sense.
But the Latin American rules are not so easily applied to a columnist such as Sra. Dowd. She does her best to obfuscate her ideological and partisan leanings. She writes compellingly, but her style seems to be to toss about catty gossip followed by serious proclamations about politics.
Perhaps her style is simply all that there is . She clearly is delighting in the endless opportunities to savage Hillary and to egg on Trump. Either way, she will have material after November. I guess that is the point. Viva la campaña! Hillary and Trump , as different as they are, make great material.
The Trump columnist is Dowd.
La Señora Dowd seems to have an extraordinary amount of vitriol that she aims at both Clintons. At the same time, she flaunts her access to Donald Trump and consistently gives legitimacy to his candidacy and wild utterings, while all the time denying that she is lending any support to him.
Have I got this right?
In Latin America, it is well understood that in order to understand what a journalist is really saying -especial an opinion writer -- you must first know his/her ideology and party affiliation. Only then does what one reads begin to make sense.
But the Latin American rules are not so easily applied to a columnist such as Sra. Dowd. She does her best to obfuscate her ideological and partisan leanings. She writes compellingly, but her style seems to be to toss about catty gossip followed by serious proclamations about politics.
Perhaps her style is simply all that there is . She clearly is delighting in the endless opportunities to savage Hillary and to egg on Trump. Either way, she will have material after November. I guess that is the point. Viva la campaña! Hillary and Trump , as different as they are, make great material.
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Another tiresome anti-Clinton rant by an increasingly tiresome writer.
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A producer I once worked for described a script as the B & O. When I asked him what that meant, he said it means the best and only. And that's the choice we have with Hilary. I could care less whether she is likable or is a dissembler at times. Trump seems to have gotten more loony since he's now the nominee. The man's a nut job and that's on a good day. I think he's peaked. He seems to be more desperate. Just look at what he said about the judge and the only African American at his rally. So yes Hilary while far from being the best candidate, is the B & O
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Maureen Dowd is a great disappointment as a journalist and interpreter of our times. She has been conditioned to accept and endlessly parrot the conventional wisdom about Hillary Clinton begun 20 years ago.
This continued hostility, irritating and idiotic, is based on the foul Republican contempt of the Clintons, and which they have cultivated until all the lies are accepted as truth.
The maniacal stupidity of this conventional wisdom offers nothing that can be considered thoughtful or beneficial.
Best to end this repetition now - it's tired, old and very rancid.
This continued hostility, irritating and idiotic, is based on the foul Republican contempt of the Clintons, and which they have cultivated until all the lies are accepted as truth.
The maniacal stupidity of this conventional wisdom offers nothing that can be considered thoughtful or beneficial.
Best to end this repetition now - it's tired, old and very rancid.
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Why does the NYT not cover Susan Sarandon's support for Sanders?????
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Maureen Dowd seems to have a special, personal hatred for the Clintons. Who knows where it comes from, but it is ugly, petty and vicious. More than that, however, it is now tedious and witless. Dowd needs seriously to consider retirement. Her career has run its course.
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Donald Trump is a chump. That should be Hillary's new slogan. He calls her all kinds of names, why not return in kind?
Why do the Democrats not understand that persuasion is based on manipulation through emotions? That Trump is appealing to so many has much to do with his visibility on his "realty" apprentice shows. People think they know him. It's well known that people vote for candidates they think they know........good or bad is of no consequence. Most print magazines feature celebrities on the cover or beautiful young women. Why? Because those covers sell the most magazines. It's not about the content, it's about the image.
For all of us who hope and pray every day that The Donald will not get near being the POTUS, it is a tragedy that we have to watch him get so much publicity. Rarely is his litany of lies, denials and masquerades mentioned and it should be on the front pages of the NYT every day.
Hillary will be a secure, dignified President with Bill to help her. Bernie (my choice) is a better candidate but I don't expect he will get the nomination. I hope Hillary learns to persuade, as she could lose if she doesn't.
Why do the Democrats not understand that persuasion is based on manipulation through emotions? That Trump is appealing to so many has much to do with his visibility on his "realty" apprentice shows. People think they know him. It's well known that people vote for candidates they think they know........good or bad is of no consequence. Most print magazines feature celebrities on the cover or beautiful young women. Why? Because those covers sell the most magazines. It's not about the content, it's about the image.
For all of us who hope and pray every day that The Donald will not get near being the POTUS, it is a tragedy that we have to watch him get so much publicity. Rarely is his litany of lies, denials and masquerades mentioned and it should be on the front pages of the NYT every day.
Hillary will be a secure, dignified President with Bill to help her. Bernie (my choice) is a better candidate but I don't expect he will get the nomination. I hope Hillary learns to persuade, as she could lose if she doesn't.
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Yes, I remember well the dignity they brought to the White House the first time around.
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You're referring to Bill Clinton's impeachment for sexual misconduct by a dozen sitting Republican senators, all of whom were carrying on their own adulterous affairs at the time, correct? Gingrich, Livingston, Hastert, and the beat goes on...
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Boy! If you think we hate each other now, just wait 'til this year is over.
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Re: 'jejunosity' is a wonderful word. Does it mean something different from 'jejunitude' ? And b.t.w., 'judgement' is an accepted, alternative spelling, more commonly used in English English than in U.S. English.
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Of all Dowd's ,"I hate Hillary" columns, this is the most incoherent yet.As she careens from one false equivalency to another, what slowly emerges is her enthrallment with Donald Trump, thinly camoflaged with a few disparaging comments, but it's apparent that, like a kid sister in thrall to her older brother, she always somehow persuades herself that Hillary is the real villain while Brother Donald is just a harmless clown. And The wall, deporting millions, banning muslims are just trifles compared to the e-mail travesty, where as far as I can make out there were zero negative repercussions.
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Calling him "tart-tongued" may go down in history as the best epithet for a monster since someone tried "the regulator" for Torquemada.
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Why is Mrs. Clinton referred to as "Hillary" throughout this article, but Donald is referred to as "Trump?" Why is she less deserving of being respectfully called by her surname than her "formidable" opponent?
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How snide and petty. Presidential candidates are different from an actress winning an Oscar (30 years ago!). One is a popularity contest. Dowd can be pretty mean-spirited and rude. I'm for Bernie Sanders, btw.
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Thanks for the reminder about how much I've hated Maureen Dowd's loathsome, catty opinion columns for years now. Where all Democrat men are castrated wimps and a Democratic woman like Hillary is portrayed as a b-busting "shrew". Maureen, hold the mirror to thine own eyes.
What a blender of Dowd nonsense. The same old tired gender tropes she's tried to pass off for twenty years. OH, but she mentions Lin-Manuel Miranda and "Hamilton", to attempt to make it topical. Never mind that show has been running for just over a year now. Just kidnapping something he said out of context and making it the headline for this worthless, content-free column.
Dear NYT: You need a real house-cleaning with your columnists. Because this place is stale and ossified, and everyone is talking about what a dusty museum of passé commentary it is. Brooks, Friedman, Douthat, Dowd? All playing their same tired tunes, what an exhausted brain trust, what a waste of space. Vibrant and modern sites like The Guardian are open, vibrant and dynamic spaces for commentary from many diverse voices. Why are you stuck forever with these tired stale columnists beating their own little drum about the same thing forever and ever? The reading audience is tremendously bored and fed up, and the Times really, really ought to shake things up. It can't go on like this, you're stuck in the past, and it's hurting the paper.
What a blender of Dowd nonsense. The same old tired gender tropes she's tried to pass off for twenty years. OH, but she mentions Lin-Manuel Miranda and "Hamilton", to attempt to make it topical. Never mind that show has been running for just over a year now. Just kidnapping something he said out of context and making it the headline for this worthless, content-free column.
Dear NYT: You need a real house-cleaning with your columnists. Because this place is stale and ossified, and everyone is talking about what a dusty museum of passé commentary it is. Brooks, Friedman, Douthat, Dowd? All playing their same tired tunes, what an exhausted brain trust, what a waste of space. Vibrant and modern sites like The Guardian are open, vibrant and dynamic spaces for commentary from many diverse voices. Why are you stuck forever with these tired stale columnists beating their own little drum about the same thing forever and ever? The reading audience is tremendously bored and fed up, and the Times really, really ought to shake things up. It can't go on like this, you're stuck in the past, and it's hurting the paper.
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It's been a long time since I've read a word Ms. Dowd has written. Today, perhaps because of something atmospheric or an underground tremble, I clicked on her column.
Ick.
It'll be a much longer time before I do it again.
Ick.
It'll be a much longer time before I do it again.
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I will adapt the famous words of St. Reagan from his 1980 debate and say "There she goes again."
It was a nice piece of bait and switch. Sell the column as though it is about John Adams and then go on to bash Hillary Clinton.
As I said, "There she goes again."
It was a nice piece of bait and switch. Sell the column as though it is about John Adams and then go on to bash Hillary Clinton.
As I said, "There she goes again."
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Hillary's speech was great, but the real story only mentioned here is that Paul Ryan's moment in history to put country before party came and he missed it. I doubt that Adams or Jefferson would have failed like Ryan.
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"You know, I'm not sitting here, some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette. I'm standing here, because I love him, and I respect him, and I honor what he's been through and what we've been through together. And you know, if that's not enough for people, then heck, don't vote for him."
Hillary Clinton-January 26, 1992
Hilliary said this before a national audience on 60 Minutes, where Bill Clinton was fending off allegations from mistress, Gennifer Flowers, in order to save his candidacy for president.
At the time, the right wing moral majority, led by Reverend Jerry Fallwell, were apoplectic that a woman could be so bold, so dismissive of cultural norms, with her refusal to just stand by her man. Thus began the 25 year battle to take Hillary down with the "scandals" of Whitewater, Filegate, cattle futures, Vince Foster and now, Benghazi and her "damn e-mails."
Traditionalists felt the same way when Hillary entered the male bastions of Yale Law School in the late sixties, where females at the school were seen as a novelty.
Hilliary has always been held to a different standard. Such assertiveness and ambition would be admired were she a man. When Mr. Trump raises his voice, he's projecting strength, whereas Hilliary's voice is shrill.
But last Thursday, she found her voice with her six point take down of Trump and the novelty of electing our first female president is upon us. I like Hillary then, as I like her now. I'm standing by her.
Hillary Clinton-January 26, 1992
Hilliary said this before a national audience on 60 Minutes, where Bill Clinton was fending off allegations from mistress, Gennifer Flowers, in order to save his candidacy for president.
At the time, the right wing moral majority, led by Reverend Jerry Fallwell, were apoplectic that a woman could be so bold, so dismissive of cultural norms, with her refusal to just stand by her man. Thus began the 25 year battle to take Hillary down with the "scandals" of Whitewater, Filegate, cattle futures, Vince Foster and now, Benghazi and her "damn e-mails."
Traditionalists felt the same way when Hillary entered the male bastions of Yale Law School in the late sixties, where females at the school were seen as a novelty.
Hilliary has always been held to a different standard. Such assertiveness and ambition would be admired were she a man. When Mr. Trump raises his voice, he's projecting strength, whereas Hilliary's voice is shrill.
But last Thursday, she found her voice with her six point take down of Trump and the novelty of electing our first female president is upon us. I like Hillary then, as I like her now. I'm standing by her.
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Hillary wasn't standing by her man so much as she was standing behind him and riding on his coattails.
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Thank you, Roberto.
Thank you to all the men who like Mrs. Clinton.
You're real men. Really real men.
Thank you to all the men who like Mrs. Clinton.
You're real men. Really real men.
The question "Was John Adams a Hermaphrodite?" is just about as appropriate as asking "Is Donald Trump really trying to become President?" When Trump has made so many outrageous statements and proposals (as documented in Clinton's recent speech), why in God's name does the news media, and you, Ms Dowd, give Trump any credibility at all. The NYTimes reporters were complicit in pushing for the war in Iraq. It would be a pubic service if the Times and the rest of the MSM called out Trump for what he is, and what you know he is. There is more than just a war at stake this time.
I used to love reading Maureen Dowd, but for the past year, I can no longer stomach reading her columns-She is not the person I thought she was.
I keep waiting for the Donald Trump version of "Bush on the Couch".
The circular firing squad performed by the check-mark commenters on this thread amply demonstrate why the check-mark preferred commenter system should be discontinued.
It's sad how my progressive fellows must always stoop to the most tortured interpretation of Donald Trump. He was perfectly clear & logical with Jake Tapper, and it's an open question as to why this judge has agreed to carry on a case that should, if Trump's facts are correct, be dismissed.
Bias due to ethnic loyalty is a real thing and considering it does not by itself indicate racism, racism is a summary disparagement without cause of a body of people, not of one person actively involved in possible bias against you. Trump is a an ogre, but progressives embarrass themselves refusing to acknowledge when he has a real bone to pick. Instead they always double down on some PC talking point. It's counter-productive.
Bias due to ethnic loyalty is a real thing and considering it does not by itself indicate racism, racism is a summary disparagement without cause of a body of people, not of one person actively involved in possible bias against you. Trump is a an ogre, but progressives embarrass themselves refusing to acknowledge when he has a real bone to pick. Instead they always double down on some PC talking point. It's counter-productive.
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Trump would love for the Trump University lawsuits to be dismissed, but we're talking about an actual con man actually defrauding hundreds of students out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. The fact that every student enrolled because they admired Donald Trump, the con man who didn't hesitate to callously rip them off, meant nothing to Trump.
And unlike HRC's email issues, Trump University committed actual crimes against its own students--while Donald Trump, who owned 93% of Trump University, pocketed their tuition payments.
And unlike HRC's email issues, Trump University committed actual crimes against its own students--while Donald Trump, who owned 93% of Trump University, pocketed their tuition payments.
You have to be joking, or lead a very sheltered life. Have you ever worked in a sales office?
If a person looking for a sales position actually owns the techniques espoused in the Trump U courses I have seen publicized, he/she would rocket to the top of the applicant list. Hards sales closing is exactly what was being taught. Take their money - next! This is why salesmen have such bad reputations, and why they so often make the most money in a company.
If a person looking for a sales position actually owns the techniques espoused in the Trump U courses I have seen publicized, he/she would rocket to the top of the applicant list. Hards sales closing is exactly what was being taught. Take their money - next! This is why salesmen have such bad reputations, and why they so often make the most money in a company.
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Maureen, you missed the point. Again.
It is not that Mrs. Clinton is a less than perfect seeker of the Presidency, but that Mr. Trump would be worse on so many counts that it is not even close.
Why do you spend you time writing of your dismay of Mrs. Clinton - it is not as if you are bringing us some great secret - when you should be writing that you are appalled at the rise of Mr. Trump in the polls and hearts of far too many Americans?
You remind me of the mouse that focused on the cheese and didn't realize the potential harm of the trap.
It is not that Mrs. Clinton is a less than perfect seeker of the Presidency, but that Mr. Trump would be worse on so many counts that it is not even close.
Why do you spend you time writing of your dismay of Mrs. Clinton - it is not as if you are bringing us some great secret - when you should be writing that you are appalled at the rise of Mr. Trump in the polls and hearts of far too many Americans?
You remind me of the mouse that focused on the cheese and didn't realize the potential harm of the trap.
Why is Maureen Dowd still getting space in this newspaper? She takes every opportunity to impugn Hillary Clinton, and it's just so tiresome already.
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"Judgement" is an acceptable variant according to most dictionaries. It is used as third as often as "judgment" on the internet. Be careful of criticizing grammar else you suffer Gaudete's Law (https://ianferrel.wordpress.com/2005/05/19/gauderes-law/) as when you wrote: "Weiner tweated immediately".
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Study after study has found that contrary to denials, voters care less about a candidate's specific policies than they do about what they perceive is the candidate's personality. So, yes, Clinton's high unlikeable score is a problem.
It's interesting to read all the comments from folks who insist that it is not emotion but cool logic that makes them Clinton backers. Most of these same folks strongly opposed the Iraq war. How to square this disconnect? Man is the rationalizing animal.
It's interesting to read all the comments from folks who insist that it is not emotion but cool logic that makes them Clinton backers. Most of these same folks strongly opposed the Iraq war. How to square this disconnect? Man is the rationalizing animal.
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As usual, another column about nothing from Maureen Dowd. How about a column about the issues? Would tax Dowd's little brain. Really, the NTY is becoming trivial. Greenhouse is excellent on SCOUTS, Collins is funny, but Dowd...time to go.
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And Dowd is pleased to be one of those vipers. Why be a journalist when you be knock off inaccurate, petty, sarcastic, self-indulgent drivel, and get paid for it?
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Republicans are patriots and enough of us will vote for Mrs. Clinton to help ensure that the odious Mr. Trump is defeated. This despite the unwelcome prospect of helping bring about another Presidency embarrassed by Iran deals, red lines that turn out not to be red lines and cave-ins to Mr. Putin.
The U.S. is desperately in need of a truly centrist political party centered on economic growth here and strength abroad to the exclusion of virtually everything else; but for now the only business at hand is working hard to assure that Mr. Trump becomes nothing more than an extremely bad memory.
The U.S. is desperately in need of a truly centrist political party centered on economic growth here and strength abroad to the exclusion of virtually everything else; but for now the only business at hand is working hard to assure that Mr. Trump becomes nothing more than an extremely bad memory.
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Yes, Hillary Clinton needs to take responsibility for her Dumb Email arrangement, and adit it as such. Also, stop saying that she is ready to be Commander-in-chief. Instead, let her actions and credentials speak for her.
Lastly, her Foreign Policy Address, on Thursday, was excellent. It included the proper mix of: hard policy commentary (without getting wonky; humor, at Trump's expense; and her personalty shined through.
Don't force the comments, let them come out naturally.
The last point, will Trump be including Kim Jong-Un and Vladimir Putin in some of his TV ads for the General Election?
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
Lastly, her Foreign Policy Address, on Thursday, was excellent. It included the proper mix of: hard policy commentary (without getting wonky; humor, at Trump's expense; and her personalty shined through.
Don't force the comments, let them come out naturally.
The last point, will Trump be including Kim Jong-Un and Vladimir Putin in some of his TV ads for the General Election?
https://thetruthoncommonsense.com
I am a Sanders supporter and if Clinton is the candidate I will have a hard time bringing myself to vote for her because of her ties to Wall Street, her hawkishness, and other policy matters. That said, for the last few years I have found Maureen Dowd's continuous stream of bile against Ms. Clinton unbearable. Talk about vinegar and venom!
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Maureen,
This is an embarrassing mish-mash.
The real story this week is that your best bud Donald made an embarrassing mess of himself over and over and over again and that Hillary, fairly masterfully, pointed out that he was clearly not ready for prime time. Somehow you've turned this in to yet another column about bumbling and unlikable Hillary, your meme du year. In reality, if Hillary remains as "unlikable" as she was in her foreign policy speech in San Diego this week it won't be a question of IF she will win, it's only a question of how much she will win by. You might want to mention that to Don the next time you drop by the tower for lunch and a humanizing chat....
This is an embarrassing mish-mash.
The real story this week is that your best bud Donald made an embarrassing mess of himself over and over and over again and that Hillary, fairly masterfully, pointed out that he was clearly not ready for prime time. Somehow you've turned this in to yet another column about bumbling and unlikable Hillary, your meme du year. In reality, if Hillary remains as "unlikable" as she was in her foreign policy speech in San Diego this week it won't be a question of IF she will win, it's only a question of how much she will win by. You might want to mention that to Don the next time you drop by the tower for lunch and a humanizing chat....
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"As usual with Hillary, she clearly feels the only problem was that people found out. It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was."
- Well said!
- Well said!
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Those portraits of Louis XIV make me wonder what he was thinking. How does it get to that point, I mean dolling yourself up like that?
It's difficult to comment on this nasty piece of vitriol, since the only point seems to be that the author doesn't like Hillary Clinton. So what else is new with Ms. Dowd?
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If I had one wish in Maureen's columns it would be that she would listen to the comments that come back to her . Of course Donald Trump listens to no one, but you would think that a NYT columnist would have more class.
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So. You are saying that Trump is dead but the news has not found his brain yet? We should send out a search party - or not.
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I thought the tactic of painting Trump as not fit for the office was something started in the GOP primaries by the so called mainstream GOP as they coalesced around Cruz and Kasich and that this was Hillary's strategy all along and not one she "stumbled" into.
Also, how can a Republican candidate criticize Hillary for her Iraq war vote when the ENTIRE GOP caucus voted for it?
And, lastly, since Hillary's private server was not hacked but the State Department servers she would have used were hacked, then her decision to use a private server was the exactly opposite of reckless; it improved State Department security.
Does Dowd read her own columns before she hits "send"?
Also, how can a Republican candidate criticize Hillary for her Iraq war vote when the ENTIRE GOP caucus voted for it?
And, lastly, since Hillary's private server was not hacked but the State Department servers she would have used were hacked, then her decision to use a private server was the exactly opposite of reckless; it improved State Department security.
Does Dowd read her own columns before she hits "send"?
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Never mind if this Election is no more bizarre than the one in 1800; times have changed, people change and this is not time to play games with the future and fate of our Nation.
Earlier in an exchange with a representative of Medicare, we had a bit of a laugh when I quoted, 'Work like a horse, think like a man and look like a woman', causing her to reply that she wasn't sure about the bit about men. You may be right, I added, they are likeable enough but I find them irritating. Ditto!
To a friend, somewhat visible in the humanitarian community on a global basis, 'please remove from Facebook any political views or articles. These are not normal presidential elections and you do not want anything to come back to haunt you. We need your engineering skills here in America for one, your knowledge of water and public health, you can always post some political quotes from Einstein, or Eric Hoffer on the make-up of a leader and the mob'.
Can I keep the one about the sea turtle? she asked. Of course, and the one of Nefertiti, the cat, walking at the top with her five siblings, the dogs in the woods is priceless.
There is not only one viable candidate in these elections, but a particularly strong one. Hillary Clinton is her name and she grows bigger in stature every day.
Earlier in an exchange with a representative of Medicare, we had a bit of a laugh when I quoted, 'Work like a horse, think like a man and look like a woman', causing her to reply that she wasn't sure about the bit about men. You may be right, I added, they are likeable enough but I find them irritating. Ditto!
To a friend, somewhat visible in the humanitarian community on a global basis, 'please remove from Facebook any political views or articles. These are not normal presidential elections and you do not want anything to come back to haunt you. We need your engineering skills here in America for one, your knowledge of water and public health, you can always post some political quotes from Einstein, or Eric Hoffer on the make-up of a leader and the mob'.
Can I keep the one about the sea turtle? she asked. Of course, and the one of Nefertiti, the cat, walking at the top with her five siblings, the dogs in the woods is priceless.
There is not only one viable candidate in these elections, but a particularly strong one. Hillary Clinton is her name and she grows bigger in stature every day.
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Trump's interview w/ Jake Tapper was indeed "unyielding in his insistence he was not being racist" but it was also a portrait of Trump Unhinged.
Trump repeatedly shushed Tapper, swatting away questions like gnats interfering w/ his obsessive need to prove to Trapper that Judge Curiel is persecuting him. Trump apparently can't imagine a situation in which he's wrong - they don't exist. He obsessively drilled & harangued Trapper, who was understandably uncomfortable.
Trapper brought up Hillary & Trump dismissed her w/ "Hillary's a stiff" & went right back to dissing Curiel.
It was unnerving to watch. Trump was like Captain Queeg with the strawberries - a guy w/ a beef who's become unhinged but isn't aware of how crazy he is. Trump obsessively repeated "I'm building a wall" as if it was a mantra that proved his point.
To people who only view Trump as eccentric & obnoxious, this was the Trump who's a headcase, so deeply immersed in his mental snake pit of feuds & persecution fantasies that a network interview about his presidential campaign couldn't rouse or distract him - Trump was not going to come up for air.
It was deeply disturbing, indicating Trump is psychologically unfit. You felt if a 9-1-1 call had come in, Trump would have ignored it, consumed with the space in his head lasering in on his bugaboo Gonzalo Curiel, every bit as obsessed as Captain Ahab.
Nixon was obsessed with persecution fantasies but we rarely saw him display them in public.
Trump is unhinged.
Trump repeatedly shushed Tapper, swatting away questions like gnats interfering w/ his obsessive need to prove to Trapper that Judge Curiel is persecuting him. Trump apparently can't imagine a situation in which he's wrong - they don't exist. He obsessively drilled & harangued Trapper, who was understandably uncomfortable.
Trapper brought up Hillary & Trump dismissed her w/ "Hillary's a stiff" & went right back to dissing Curiel.
It was unnerving to watch. Trump was like Captain Queeg with the strawberries - a guy w/ a beef who's become unhinged but isn't aware of how crazy he is. Trump obsessively repeated "I'm building a wall" as if it was a mantra that proved his point.
To people who only view Trump as eccentric & obnoxious, this was the Trump who's a headcase, so deeply immersed in his mental snake pit of feuds & persecution fantasies that a network interview about his presidential campaign couldn't rouse or distract him - Trump was not going to come up for air.
It was deeply disturbing, indicating Trump is psychologically unfit. You felt if a 9-1-1 call had come in, Trump would have ignored it, consumed with the space in his head lasering in on his bugaboo Gonzalo Curiel, every bit as obsessed as Captain Ahab.
Nixon was obsessed with persecution fantasies but we rarely saw him display them in public.
Trump is unhinged.
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The difference in perspective between your and Gail Collins’s reactions to Hillary Clinton’s recent speech is as striking as it is predictable. In her column, Ms. Collins stated: “Hillary Clinton made a great speech this week. Not what we were expecting, which was just a sturdy slog through the summer. Even though it was a policy address on national security that centered on the listing of six points, it was a super performance. The bottom line was that America can choose her, or give the nuclear codes to a guy no sane person would put in charge of policing a parking lot.” Your words today, triggered by the same event, were these: “You would think that Hillary Clinton would be used to maneuvering in a political landscape where the mud is flying. But it took her a year, several speechwriters and the example of Elizabeth Warren to figure out how to riposte Donald Trump’s peculiar combination of viciousness and playfulness…” Your bottom line: “But can plodding Hillary be, as Barack Obama famously put it, likable enough?”
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I don't care how likable Hillary is, not when she is running against the Despicable Bigot and Possible Nazi Trump.
If I had to choose between a dead rat for President or Trump, my vote would go to the former rodent.
If I had to choose between a dead rat for President or Trump, my vote would go to the former rodent.
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Hillary will win. Nothing will change. Rich will keep getting rich and life will get harder for the middle class over the next 8 years. There will be no signature policy, but there will be a corporate centrist appointed to the Supreme Court.
Bill will co-President when Hillary feels it's an area that "he's good at."
Best of luck America - you will need it
Bill will co-President when Hillary feels it's an area that "he's good at."
Best of luck America - you will need it
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This column fits right into the ten-month program of trivializing our American election by the New York Times.
Nearly total avoidance of what a responsible source of news would focus public attention on: Here at home, the heist of our economy and democracy by a Moneyed-Insider Royalty. Outside our borders, counter-productive interferences in other nations.
Instead from the New York Times, we've enjoyed ten months of Entertainment Tonight, typified by this piece, supplemented by horse-race predictions of who will win so we don't need to bother to vote.
Now on one side we have the candidate that the New York Times has promoted through ten months of headline PR for his name -- the madman Trump.
And on the other side, according to New York Times premature coronation, eliminating our need to vote or hope, we will have the candidate most likely to lose to Trump. Closest to Trump in unfavorability, mistrust, results of polls. Independents, the 40% of voters who will determine election results in November, vote against her 3 or 4 to 1. She promises more of what we are rising up to end: Rule by our Moneyed-Insider Royalty, more interference in other nations -- with special efforts to poke at Russia.
What the New York Times has done to this election is pretty much the opposite of what a responsible major source of news and opinion would do.
Nearly total avoidance of what a responsible source of news would focus public attention on: Here at home, the heist of our economy and democracy by a Moneyed-Insider Royalty. Outside our borders, counter-productive interferences in other nations.
Instead from the New York Times, we've enjoyed ten months of Entertainment Tonight, typified by this piece, supplemented by horse-race predictions of who will win so we don't need to bother to vote.
Now on one side we have the candidate that the New York Times has promoted through ten months of headline PR for his name -- the madman Trump.
And on the other side, according to New York Times premature coronation, eliminating our need to vote or hope, we will have the candidate most likely to lose to Trump. Closest to Trump in unfavorability, mistrust, results of polls. Independents, the 40% of voters who will determine election results in November, vote against her 3 or 4 to 1. She promises more of what we are rising up to end: Rule by our Moneyed-Insider Royalty, more interference in other nations -- with special efforts to poke at Russia.
What the New York Times has done to this election is pretty much the opposite of what a responsible major source of news and opinion would do.
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Hillary Clinton just keeps missing the mark, overestimating the power of manipulation, and underestimating the hunger we have for solid, informed proposals that will help our country's citizens prosper.
Her ideas are the problem, not her image. She is skilled and experienced. But she has proven that she is not interested in using her skills and power to benefit ordinary people. She uses it to manipulate her way out of skirmishes and scandals. Then she hires image consultants to convince us she's genuine.
This would be a sane election if the GOP nominated the best pro-military, pro-business conservative GOP candidate (Hillary Clinton) and the Democrats ran Bernie Sanders. That would be a robust election full of ideas and rigorous debate about conservative values vs. liberal values. Instead, it's a mess.
Her ideas are the problem, not her image. She is skilled and experienced. But she has proven that she is not interested in using her skills and power to benefit ordinary people. She uses it to manipulate her way out of skirmishes and scandals. Then she hires image consultants to convince us she's genuine.
This would be a sane election if the GOP nominated the best pro-military, pro-business conservative GOP candidate (Hillary Clinton) and the Democrats ran Bernie Sanders. That would be a robust election full of ideas and rigorous debate about conservative values vs. liberal values. Instead, it's a mess.
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Would someone please tell me what Maureen Dowd does for a living?
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Of course left-leaning liberal Hollywood would support the likes of Hillary Clinton as they prefer her progressive politics to those of a more conservative candidate. This is no surprise as it was Bill Clinton who was beloved by this crowd also. He seemed to always be surrounded by stars and many stayed at the White House during his presidency. If she becomes president, I am sure many of them will be looking for an invite. They love the power and fame attached to politics and it certainly does not hurt their careers. They are as opportunistic as the Clintons.
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Trump is far more of a celebrity groupie than any of the Democrats currently in the race. He made so much of a disruption backstage at a Rolling Stones concert a few years back that Keith Richards pulled a knife on the stage manager and said that either Trump goes, or the Stones would not play. Trump was kicked out.
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Jefferson and Adams didn't have access to nuclear weapons.
With great power comes great responsibility. Accepting that responsibility makes the country great.
With great power comes great responsibility. Accepting that responsibility makes the country great.
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geez Mo, you get blasted in your own column more than anybody but Ross D. but he's kinda dim and deserves it. I wish you were a little easier on her but the liar-class tools that infest the democratic party are here defending her and wanting us all to believe having stomach cancer (clinton) isnt as bad as having pancreatic cancer (trump) -with the later being 95% fatal in 5 years while former is only 45% fatal in the same time frame. oh, thats makes me feel SO much better.
relax, in 30d trump will be even more disliked than former lying SoS amongst everyone INCLUDING white men with most of their teeth and gun nuts (I realize these groups do overlap quite a bit) as he just cant shutup even when he's "winning". distressingly, she will dust him as even more big filthy $$$ moves to lower downticket races.
our only saving grace will be she has a strong VP (say yes liz warren) who'll be the 2020 nominee as 4 years of her wishy-washiness and lying will be all anyone can stand. at least she learned how to lie from the best (her husband).
when I see her, I feel like daffy duck when he keeps getting his face shot off by elmer fudd b/c of bugs bunny's cleverness and lies; his tag line? you'rrrrre - dispicable!
relax, in 30d trump will be even more disliked than former lying SoS amongst everyone INCLUDING white men with most of their teeth and gun nuts (I realize these groups do overlap quite a bit) as he just cant shutup even when he's "winning". distressingly, she will dust him as even more big filthy $$$ moves to lower downticket races.
our only saving grace will be she has a strong VP (say yes liz warren) who'll be the 2020 nominee as 4 years of her wishy-washiness and lying will be all anyone can stand. at least she learned how to lie from the best (her husband).
when I see her, I feel like daffy duck when he keeps getting his face shot off by elmer fudd b/c of bugs bunny's cleverness and lies; his tag line? you'rrrrre - dispicable!
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Counting Ben Carson, The Buffoon now says he owns two African Americans. I'm sure the second one doesn't want his name known. He may own a hermaphrodite too.
As time goes by, and if there's a speck of decency left in the GOP, we'll see more and more of his reluctant supporters distance themselves from this idiot- something that would be good advice for Ms. Dowd too.
As time goes by, and if there's a speck of decency left in the GOP, we'll see more and more of his reluctant supporters distance themselves from this idiot- something that would be good advice for Ms. Dowd too.
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It is certainly unfortunate that a word is used in the title/headline of this essay that is beneath the dignity of this candidate. . Is Ms Doud really trying to label Hillary as a member of a discriminated group or is she at her mean worst in using a historical fact to - once again - vent her spleen on a candidate? She damns the President with faint praise, she gushes over Trump's disturbing statements, but she can't even deal with dignity with a strong. if disliked, candidate. I used to read Maureen to catch her sarcastic humor. I don't really care to read her when it is just mean and undignified and with no creative humor.
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Donald Trump says that the judge's Mexican heritage prevents the judge from performing his duties re the Trump university case because of the "wall".
Using this logic, Trump's German heritage implies that he will be a Nazi.
Using this logic, Trump's German heritage implies that he will be a Nazi.
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Umm, "judgement" is the correct spelling in Britain, where some of Mr Trump's businesses are located.
Or to put it another way: there is so much wrong and disturbing about Trump ... why waste words on his spelling? Especially when he is reputed to dictate his tweets to some assistant (possibly, a Brit) who does the typing?
Or to put it another way: there is so much wrong and disturbing about Trump ... why waste words on his spelling? Especially when he is reputed to dictate his tweets to some assistant (possibly, a Brit) who does the typing?
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I find Hillary quite likable, quite admirable, quite courageous and quite, quite brilliantly intelligent. She's the most qualified candidate for a very tough job I've ever seen in my very long lifetime. So we'll have this choice: a smart woman president who will work hard to improve many lives, or a strangely-pated hater who might, just might bring on the end of the world, once they've handed him the nuclear codes.
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So, in an election cycle of media gone mad. Maureen Dowd, whom I've generally admired, has resorted to clickbait. This seems to be because she has nothing new to say.
The point of Clintonian arrogance has been made, and made again. It seems now to be less about revealing the real-life weaknesses of a viable candidate, and more of a need to fill column inches.
Invoking (in Trump's name, no less!) the comparison of private email servers to deaths in the Iraq War is just irresponsible, as is failing to examine/clarify exactly what one means by "voting for the Iraq war" - the vote was not that simple, which is why most voted as Senator Clinton did.
Ms. Dowd so desperately wants to call out Clinton as reckless...again. Unfortunately, her most successful calling-out here is Trump's inability to spell "judgment"; that immediately loses any minor sting it might have had when Dowd either misspells "tweeted" or invents a new portmanteau word for Anthony Weiner (tweeting while bleating?).
Really, it all ended at the clickbait.
The point of Clintonian arrogance has been made, and made again. It seems now to be less about revealing the real-life weaknesses of a viable candidate, and more of a need to fill column inches.
Invoking (in Trump's name, no less!) the comparison of private email servers to deaths in the Iraq War is just irresponsible, as is failing to examine/clarify exactly what one means by "voting for the Iraq war" - the vote was not that simple, which is why most voted as Senator Clinton did.
Ms. Dowd so desperately wants to call out Clinton as reckless...again. Unfortunately, her most successful calling-out here is Trump's inability to spell "judgment"; that immediately loses any minor sting it might have had when Dowd either misspells "tweeted" or invents a new portmanteau word for Anthony Weiner (tweeting while bleating?).
Really, it all ended at the clickbait.
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Love your use of jejunosity from Woody Allen's Love and Death: "That's jejune? You have the temerity to say that I'm talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias!".
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Maureen, enough already! HRC is among a very few American politicians with the kinds of intellectual capacity, academic resume, and deep global understanding to hold the office. Her professional international and domestic political experience make her a terrific match for the position. For any thinking person who has been following her growth as an effective politician, as well as her enduring commitment to the public good, she has to be the choice. I have to believe that so some unusual emotional reason, you are simply dead set against a women as president.
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"As usual with Hillary, she clearly feels the only problem was that people found out. It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was." Nothing undercuts any of these claims because they could be made by a three year old; that is how awful Trump is. To even hint of an equivalence between these two canidates, is very poor judgement.
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Along with your points, consider that 177 of 240 FOI requests about Clinton are still pending 3 1/2 years after she left office to make speeches. Federal law requires agencies to respond within 20 working days.
Old news becomes OLD NEWS rather fast in DC.
Old news becomes OLD NEWS rather fast in DC.
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Ms Dowd:
We are all used to your being snarky about Hillary, but snarky about Sally Field? "Funnily enough," Ms Field has probably changed a lot since 1985, as have we all. Why would you try to undercut her support of a smart, experienced, strong candidate by writing a column about the importance (or lack thereof) of being nice? You're certainly not nice, and that doesn't seem to have damaged your career.
We are all used to your being snarky about Hillary, but snarky about Sally Field? "Funnily enough," Ms Field has probably changed a lot since 1985, as have we all. Why would you try to undercut her support of a smart, experienced, strong candidate by writing a column about the importance (or lack thereof) of being nice? You're certainly not nice, and that doesn't seem to have damaged your career.
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Trump primary voters have about a 17% HIGHER income than other Republican primary voters. That is according to former NY Times columnist Nate Silver, reported on his website 538.com.
So Trump people are not the people that society has trodden on, they are the ones stepping on everyone else! That is why they support Donald when he says insulting and demeaning things about other groups. They have been saying the same things for decades.
There is no similar income difference between Hillary and Bernie voters.
Watch Comedy Party Platform (2 min 9 sec) on YouTube, send a buck to Bernie and invite me to speak. Make America Great Again! Thanks.
So Trump people are not the people that society has trodden on, they are the ones stepping on everyone else! That is why they support Donald when he says insulting and demeaning things about other groups. They have been saying the same things for decades.
There is no similar income difference between Hillary and Bernie voters.
Watch Comedy Party Platform (2 min 9 sec) on YouTube, send a buck to Bernie and invite me to speak. Make America Great Again! Thanks.
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Dowd scraping the bottom of the barrel again for her weekly assignment.... Ugh.
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If this is a high school popularity contest Dowd is the goth-girl sitting in bleachers ridiculing the popular group. Throwing Sally Field under the bus, bringing up the "you really like me" speech, is classic smoke and mirrors jaded wit. Attack the "celebrity" with a reference to a speech made decades ago--eyes off the issues, cue goth-girl's sidekick laughter.
Toward the end of the article Dowd dedicates one paragraph--one!-- to Paul Ryan's "skittering" after endorsing Trump. Why does Mrs. Field get the full narrative take down with long quotes and multiple paragraphs and Paul Ryan--a man with real power and influence in our government, third in line to be president--gets a "skittering" paragraph. Why not dress him down jaded girl style to lead this bizarre season claim. Who cares what Sally Field thinks? Focus on Ryan's absurd behavior.
Toward the end of the article Dowd dedicates one paragraph--one!-- to Paul Ryan's "skittering" after endorsing Trump. Why does Mrs. Field get the full narrative take down with long quotes and multiple paragraphs and Paul Ryan--a man with real power and influence in our government, third in line to be president--gets a "skittering" paragraph. Why not dress him down jaded girl style to lead this bizarre season claim. Who cares what Sally Field thinks? Focus on Ryan's absurd behavior.
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The " goth girl" perfectly describes Ms. Dowd these days. She is also very much like Debbie Downer of Saturday Night Live. Lighten up Maureen.
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I had to read an entire story about Clinton (seemingly written by her campaign staff or the editorial board of the Times, oh wait that's the same thing) wondering what the headline had to do with anything, just to find it in the last paragraph as an afterthought.
Note to self: don't bother reading this columnist again.
Note to self: don't bother reading this columnist again.
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Adams as a hermaphrodite pales next to this race to the bottom, with 5 months to go. Maybe Hillary is at her best once she figures out what kind of crazy guy she is dealing with.
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Trump held his ground against Tapper? Watch the tape. He looked like a blustering idiot.
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We all know Maureen hates the Clintons. She's made that obvious for the past 20 years!!
I'm no Clinton fan, but like many others will vote for her because she's less dangerous than Trump.
Maybe Maureen thinks she can be Trump's next wife, no that can't be, she's American.
I've often wondered if her hate of the Clinton's has something to do with perhaps she was the only female n the room Bill didn't make a pass at??
I'm no Clinton fan, but like many others will vote for her because she's less dangerous than Trump.
Maybe Maureen thinks she can be Trump's next wife, no that can't be, she's American.
I've often wondered if her hate of the Clinton's has something to do with perhaps she was the only female n the room Bill didn't make a pass at??
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Maureen Dowd continues to let her intense personal dislike for Hillary Clinton to prevent her from coming to terms with the dangers that Donald Trump poses to the nation and the world. It is ludicrous to equate Trump's recklessness with Hillary Clinton's poor choices in dealing with her emails. This specious comparison reminds me of Ralph Nader's 2000 campaign statement in which he believed there was little difference between both political parties. We know how that worked out. Ms. Dowd may believe that by tarring both candidates, she absolves herself of any complicity in the mainstream media's role in elevating Mr. Trump to a position of power. Or maybe she doesn't care, as long as she can eviscerate Hillary Clinton.
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Unbelievable--Maureen Dowd is talking about Trump’s “playfullness!” Then when Hillary hits Mo’s boyfriend Trump with "I wonder if he even realizes he’s even talking about nuclear war.”
Mo defends Trump “With its typical arrogance, Clintonworld can go too far.”
No Maureen--no one has gone far enough to put Trump in his place- This week we saw the dark underside of a con man. Trump U was a con to separate the “elderly and uneducated from their money “Max out that credit card, take out your retirement savings” to pay for Trump’s secret to becoming a Master of the Universe.
He conned our veterans--using them as a prop as he quickly wrote a check for $1 million after promising it for 5 months with an insipid comment that he was still “vetting the charitable groups.” Trump is the least charitable multi-billionaire ever.
And speaking of emptiness and insipid you bring up Trump’s jejunosity--a term probably only every used by Woody Allen playing “Boris” in “Love and Death!”
Boris; “Don’t you know that murder carries with it a moral imperative that transcends any notion of inherent universal free will?”
Sonja:“That is incredibly jejune.”
Boris: “Jejune?! You have the temerity to say that I’m talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias.”
When you are referencing Woody Allen movies and “Hamilton’s” Lin-Manuel Miranda--you have hit a wall.
Trump has absolutely NO redeeming qualities--NOTHING! An empty-headed, june, spoiled brat!
Mo defends Trump “With its typical arrogance, Clintonworld can go too far.”
No Maureen--no one has gone far enough to put Trump in his place- This week we saw the dark underside of a con man. Trump U was a con to separate the “elderly and uneducated from their money “Max out that credit card, take out your retirement savings” to pay for Trump’s secret to becoming a Master of the Universe.
He conned our veterans--using them as a prop as he quickly wrote a check for $1 million after promising it for 5 months with an insipid comment that he was still “vetting the charitable groups.” Trump is the least charitable multi-billionaire ever.
And speaking of emptiness and insipid you bring up Trump’s jejunosity--a term probably only every used by Woody Allen playing “Boris” in “Love and Death!”
Boris; “Don’t you know that murder carries with it a moral imperative that transcends any notion of inherent universal free will?”
Sonja:“That is incredibly jejune.”
Boris: “Jejune?! You have the temerity to say that I’m talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias.”
When you are referencing Woody Allen movies and “Hamilton’s” Lin-Manuel Miranda--you have hit a wall.
Trump has absolutely NO redeeming qualities--NOTHING! An empty-headed, june, spoiled brat!
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It must truly make Maureen Dowd sick to her stomach to know that Hillary Clinton will be the next president (and God only knows what Hillary ever did to her). But don't worry Maureen! It guarantees 8 years of these Clinton bashing op eds, which you seem to be able to write in your sleep.
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Trump returns Dowd's phone calls, HRC doesn't. Simple.
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Eight years of another Clinton presidency? Not four? Yikes!
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Donald Trump is Eddie Haskell, but only after Eddie was in a bad train wreck and suffered serious brain damage and became his former self's Evil Twin. Trump is Danny Rayburn, on Bloodline, but with worse hair and more money. Trump is Rob Petrie's boss on The Dick Van Dyke Show -- bald, loud, completely lacking insight, narcissistic and an utter buffoon.
Hillary is Jane Drysdale on The Beverly Hillbillies; she is Dora the Explorer, but without the excitement; she is Eleanor Roosevelt, but only if Eleanor had dedicated 30 years in Washington to making herself obscenely wealthy.
Yeah, folks...we got a couple'a real beauts!
Hillary is Jane Drysdale on The Beverly Hillbillies; she is Dora the Explorer, but without the excitement; she is Eleanor Roosevelt, but only if Eleanor had dedicated 30 years in Washington to making herself obscenely wealthy.
Yeah, folks...we got a couple'a real beauts!
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We really need to put this email brouhaha to rest. It's a false issue and yet Dowd uses it to challenge the validity of Hillary Clinton. Dowd describes her good effort at countering Trump's verbal blatheria, but then shoots down the strength of that by calling Hillary arrogant, as exampled by her use of email. I challenge Maureen Dowd to provide the actual source documents that support her characterization of Clinton's email practices as arrogant or worse. All that I can find is a State Department Inspector General's report on widespread similar email practices of Secretaries and staffers stretching back all the way into and through the tenures of Powell and Rice before her. As for alleged facts of secret and top secret and "special access" material being on that server, I am eager to see any actual reports that would pass minimum standards of evidence.
I can't find them. They are alluded to, in the multitude of quotes of quotes quoting other quoters. But so far, I have been unable to find anything. So I challenge her to substantiate, with actual facts or the words of those with first hand experience that can be confirmed. This is the New York Times. Maybe the vaunted fact checkers can do the leg work. I would be happy to be proven wrong on this, because if I am right there has been a massive misdirected quantity of ink and pixels sprayed forth about something that wasn't and isn't even real.
I can't find them. They are alluded to, in the multitude of quotes of quotes quoting other quoters. But so far, I have been unable to find anything. So I challenge her to substantiate, with actual facts or the words of those with first hand experience that can be confirmed. This is the New York Times. Maybe the vaunted fact checkers can do the leg work. I would be happy to be proven wrong on this, because if I am right there has been a massive misdirected quantity of ink and pixels sprayed forth about something that wasn't and isn't even real.
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You could be Trump's choice for VP.
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Last thing I want to do is have a beer with the President of these United States! That's a low standard for any meeting.I want the most sophisticated intelligent human available in our White House.
I hate beer!
Madame President get ready,I'm so happy you still want the job!
No thin skins allowed!
I hate beer!
Madame President get ready,I'm so happy you still want the job!
No thin skins allowed!
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I hate to tell you, but Mrs. Bill has pretty thin skin herself. That is part of her unlikability. She is humorless. That forced laugh she does is a way to deflect her discomfort when being asked about things she - rightly - finds uncomfortable to defend. When standing, it is accompanied by a backstep to signal her discomfort further. She is nearly as entitled as Trump and for the same reason. Both live in a bubble of "yes" men who are loathe to tell them the truth.
It's going to be the Battle of the Billionaires, with probably neither really having the billions that both want. It is a disgusting display of American-style excess. Which one "feels your pain"? Neither, but you will feel theirs. The question is: could we possilby go any lower? I fear the answer will be "yes".
It's going to be the Battle of the Billionaires, with probably neither really having the billions that both want. It is a disgusting display of American-style excess. Which one "feels your pain"? Neither, but you will feel theirs. The question is: could we possilby go any lower? I fear the answer will be "yes".
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The people who wrote and approved this headline should go back to journalism school for a brief review of sensationalism. Of course this piece has nothing to do with John Adams or hermaphrodites. (Writers don't always get to choose their own headlines so I don't know if this is Maureen Dowd's fault or not.)
To pull out the most outrageous detail in a barely relevant quote and slap it on as the title of this column is lousy journalism. It resembles the idiotic"click-bait" that crops up to entice readers all over the internet. It has nothing to do with the column.
A better title would have been, "I still dislike Hillary Clinton." That's fine, you don't have to like her. But you do have to avoid letting your dislike addle your brain so much that you actually end up comparing Hillary's email server "recklessness" to Donald's recklessness: his threat to the rule of law and the basic tenets of free speech and freedom of religion, to civil rights, and to long-established international conventions. Get a grip.
To pull out the most outrageous detail in a barely relevant quote and slap it on as the title of this column is lousy journalism. It resembles the idiotic"click-bait" that crops up to entice readers all over the internet. It has nothing to do with the column.
A better title would have been, "I still dislike Hillary Clinton." That's fine, you don't have to like her. But you do have to avoid letting your dislike addle your brain so much that you actually end up comparing Hillary's email server "recklessness" to Donald's recklessness: his threat to the rule of law and the basic tenets of free speech and freedom of religion, to civil rights, and to long-established international conventions. Get a grip.
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Can I say, without excusing the email server, that the number of words that have been written about it is two orders of magnitude greater than what it deserved, and that we should have let it go and moved on months ago?
Bringing up the email server in the context of Donald Trump's appalling ignorance, callousness and indifference to human life reeks of false equivalence. A breach of bureaucratic rules that caused no harm to anyone; a vote for a war that was also supported by solid majorities in both houses of congress at the time and for which Hillary has since apologized; none of this is remotely as bad as even one of the multiple ridiculous and dangerously uninformed statements Donald Trump has made about foreign affairs.
Bringing up the email server in the context of Donald Trump's appalling ignorance, callousness and indifference to human life reeks of false equivalence. A breach of bureaucratic rules that caused no harm to anyone; a vote for a war that was also supported by solid majorities in both houses of congress at the time and for which Hillary has since apologized; none of this is remotely as bad as even one of the multiple ridiculous and dangerously uninformed statements Donald Trump has made about foreign affairs.
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I LIKE HILLARY !
Republicans have the DTs - a rapid onset of confusion following withdrawal
from reality. Many Republicans can't stand Donald Trump, but are going to vote for him. How insane is that?
Republicans have the DTs - a rapid onset of confusion following withdrawal
from reality. Many Republicans can't stand Donald Trump, but are going to vote for him. How insane is that?
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Ms. Dowd - Your ability to write objectively about Hillary Rodham Clinton is "nil." Readers have lost count of the endless attacks you have made upon Mrs. Clinton, despite her record of public service as a First Lady, U.S. Senator and Secretary of State. You should take my wise mother's advice, Ms. Dowd: If you have nothing good to say about someone, you should say nothing at all.
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More HIliary coverage and no Sanders coverage. But I guess it's a given that the NYTimes shamelessly covers that candidates they would have and diss'es the one they would not. Clinton is not actually winning by millions..it is the way it is added up..the caucuses won are not being counted..she does not have that many more ACTUAL delegates than Sanders as super delegates don't count until they have actually voted. Sanders is within striking distance of winning the nomination even with rampant election fraud, flipping of votes, disappearing ballots, wrong ballots deliberately delivered, gerrymandering in general, closing of many many polls especially in poor neighborhoods, and NO MEDIA COVERAGE of these facts and of Sanders in general. And yet he still fills the stadiums with thousands and thousands, even in small towns. Let the NYTimes go on like this and be on the wrong side of history. The young know and they are the future. And there are plenty of old sixties crowd that remember how social justice winning feels like me.
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Sanders has shown little ability to get his dreams and fantasies enacted into law. He has become a minor annoyance and needs to get out of the way.
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Sanders is finished, and it has nothing to do with your imaginary complaint that he hasn't been covered.
Don't blame Sanders' political demise on the press. He sunk himself with fatuous promises.
Don't blame Sanders' political demise on the press. He sunk himself with fatuous promises.
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Yes, let's examine whether Sanders' programs would actually work ... oh, wait, Krugman's done that. And found that they can't.
Let's examine Sanders' career of accomplishment in his three decades in Congress ... oh, wait. There isn't anything.
How about talking about Sanders' accomplishments within the Democratic Party? ... ooops1 He only just joined in order to make an opportunistic run for president.
Let's focus on his well-organized campaign ... uh, which didn't even bother to inform its independent supporters well in advance of the NY primary that they had to contact the board of elections 25 days in advance and declare a party affiliation. Hey, it's not as if they knew it was coming ... they only had more than a year to prepare ....
Since we've been examining Trump's and Clinton's personal lives, Sanders' multiple marriages should be fair game. Maybe we can talk about his wacky ideas about the cause of cancer?
Opportunism, incompetence, muddle-headedness. No wonder The Gang That Couldn't Vote Straight draws its support mostly from the very young and the perpetually immature.
Yes, let's talk about Bernie Sanders. He's been given a pass long enough.
Let's examine Sanders' career of accomplishment in his three decades in Congress ... oh, wait. There isn't anything.
How about talking about Sanders' accomplishments within the Democratic Party? ... ooops1 He only just joined in order to make an opportunistic run for president.
Let's focus on his well-organized campaign ... uh, which didn't even bother to inform its independent supporters well in advance of the NY primary that they had to contact the board of elections 25 days in advance and declare a party affiliation. Hey, it's not as if they knew it was coming ... they only had more than a year to prepare ....
Since we've been examining Trump's and Clinton's personal lives, Sanders' multiple marriages should be fair game. Maybe we can talk about his wacky ideas about the cause of cancer?
Opportunism, incompetence, muddle-headedness. No wonder The Gang That Couldn't Vote Straight draws its support mostly from the very young and the perpetually immature.
Yes, let's talk about Bernie Sanders. He's been given a pass long enough.
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And to think I thought this would be about John Adams, some delightful contrasting to today's race. Alas, you tricked me again and got me to read more Hillary bashing. You have a one-track mind, Maureen! "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
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I had the same thought about Dowd's latest column. Even Jennifer Rubinstein at WaPo started writing something novel when it became clear that Trump would be the Republican nominee. Maybe Dowd should get together with her for some ideas on new topics for this column.
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The usual Clinton bashing from Ms. Dowd as seen through her chronic gender lens. Enough already.
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Ms. Dowd is a professional girl writer.
That's been her career. She's going soon...
Be nice to the lady as she dances her way to the door.
That's been her career. She's going soon...
Be nice to the lady as she dances her way to the door.
Hillary is not running for Miss Congeniality; she's running to be the Commander-in-Chief. And she's shown that she has the strength, the street smarts, and the intelligence to take down the town bully boy, Trump.
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Even with the thugs in the street inciting violence on TRump Supporters, Hillary is not strong enough to win.
People are sick of the violence.
Period.
People are sick of the violence.
Period.
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What is Bill running for? She already assigned him economy czar in Kentucky to win more last minute votes in the primary.
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It's too bad that she doesn't have the integrity and judgment required to be the commander-in-chief.
Hermaphrodite?
Are you suggesting that all this time, the misogyny was self loathing?
Who'd a thunk it?
Are you suggesting that all this time, the misogyny was self loathing?
Who'd a thunk it?
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Once more Dowd writes influenced by an inherent, often insupportable, perhaps more than often distaste for all things Clinton. It is a never- ending screed. Would she be capable of writing a single column of clintonian praise. Perhaps, but not likely.
And i wonder if her comments are an effort by the paper which sponsors her to claim balance. Doesn't work.
And i wonder if her comments are an effort by the paper which sponsors her to claim balance. Doesn't work.
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Okay, in matters of great import like whether Hillary is likable or whether anybody is a hermaphrodite, this is going to seem beside the point. But for heaven's sake, can't anybody put that Sally Field quote in context or are we doomed to hear her idiotically joked about until the end of time? Maureen of all people ought to know movie history well enough not to sound like every other ill-informed journalist who gets it wrong. Sally's "You like me!" when she won for "Places in the Heart" wasn't meant literally, folks. She wasn't an overwhelmed teenager. The line was a callback to another movie and she made the mistake of assuming everyone had seen the greatest performance of her career, also an Oscar winner, in "Norma Rae," in which she said to Ron Leibman, "Reuben, I think you like me!" But we will forever hear this wonderful actress treated like a nitwit because journalists can't be bothered to learn basic movie history. Here's the bigger problem: pretty much nobody can be bothered to see the greatest -- and almost only -- American film ever made about unions and the working class. Unions? Now what are they exactly? And aren't they all bad? And don't they strangle the American economy? But let's not worry. "Norma Rae" was about unionizing a textile mill and we pretty much don't have any of those left. They all went to countries where workers get starvation wages and nobody cares about their lungs. Now let's see, which candidate can bring THOSE jobs back!
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ADN: Neither Trump or Hillary will be able to "bring THOSE jobs back".
Bernie on the other hand can. Neither Trump or Hillary had any desire to. One supports trade agreements; the other only interested in his own interests which are not bringing back jobs.
Bernie on the other hand can. Neither Trump or Hillary had any desire to. One supports trade agreements; the other only interested in his own interests which are not bringing back jobs.
Attention NYTimes editors! Major fail in Maureen Dowd's column today.
There was an actual compliment given to Hillary Clinton by Maureen Dowd:
"She made a really good speech in San Diego."
What in the world happened, Ms. Dowd? Are you okay? I hope you recover in time, or at least when the Democratic convention is held, to overcorrect to your continued, endless snide put downs of Hillary Clinton. They are just getting more and more refreshing and original.
Wishing you a speedy recovery!
There was an actual compliment given to Hillary Clinton by Maureen Dowd:
"She made a really good speech in San Diego."
What in the world happened, Ms. Dowd? Are you okay? I hope you recover in time, or at least when the Democratic convention is held, to overcorrect to your continued, endless snide put downs of Hillary Clinton. They are just getting more and more refreshing and original.
Wishing you a speedy recovery!
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• With its typical arrogance, Clintonworld can go too far....
And arrogance is what makes Clinton, not just unlikable, but detestable and untrustworthy.
"It is a tragedy of the world that no one knows what he doesn't know - the less a man knows, the more sure it is that he knows everything."
~ JOYCE CARY
(1888 – 1957)
Anglo-Irish novelist and artist.
And arrogance is what makes Clinton, not just unlikable, but detestable and untrustworthy.
"It is a tragedy of the world that no one knows what he doesn't know - the less a man knows, the more sure it is that he knows everything."
~ JOYCE CARY
(1888 – 1957)
Anglo-Irish novelist and artist.
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Arrogance and entitlement.
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There is no connection between your Cary quote and Hillary Clinton, despite your wishing it so.
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What a race to the bottom with these two pranksters.
Trump subconsciously must not want to actually be elected President. He is an attention seeking troll pure and simple.
Hiliary is scary conniving.
It's a wash.
Is there any way to fast forward this mess to a debate moderated by Jerry Springer?
Trump subconsciously must not want to actually be elected President. He is an attention seeking troll pure and simple.
Hiliary is scary conniving.
It's a wash.
Is there any way to fast forward this mess to a debate moderated by Jerry Springer?
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Hillary and the DNC need to emasculate Trump. It is easily done by focusing on his looks, as he does with women, pointing out their flaws.
Paint Trump as what he looks like: An overweight lounge-lizard with a terrible 1970's style comb-over. Focus on his weight and his hair. Turn the tables on Mr. Universe. He'll crumble.
Paint Trump as what he looks like: An overweight lounge-lizard with a terrible 1970's style comb-over. Focus on his weight and his hair. Turn the tables on Mr. Universe. He'll crumble.
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Try doing that and Trump will become even more enraged than he is now. Haven't you observed what he does to people that point out his shortcomings. It's exactly what his followers like about him. They probably also look like him.
I think you're on to something.
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"Try doing that and Trump will become even more enraged than he is now. Haven't you observed what he does to people that point out his shortcomings. It's exactly what his followers like about him. They probably also look like him."
That's the point. Make Trump "enraged" that Dems are attacking his looks. Put him on the defensive. Treat a playground bully like kids would treat him on the playground. He's ugly inside and out. But it is the outside that matters most to his ego. He's overweight and bald, with a ridiculous hairdo. Call him on it.
That's the point. Make Trump "enraged" that Dems are attacking his looks. Put him on the defensive. Treat a playground bully like kids would treat him on the playground. He's ugly inside and out. But it is the outside that matters most to his ego. He's overweight and bald, with a ridiculous hairdo. Call him on it.
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Thanks, Maureen, As usual you can't resist the temptation to take down a woman you regard as frumpy. Please get over it. This isn't high school and there's a lot more at stake.
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With all the people out to get Hillary Maureen Dowd holds the record for her attacks on Hillary Clinton.
Although Hillary voted for the war in Iraq she was not commander in chief and lead this country into war Bush 43 did. Even if Hillary voted against the war we still would have invaded Iraq. This is the Congressional vote:
77-23 for War Resolution-23 opposed in the Senate.
296 in favor of the war resolution in the House and 133 opposed in the House..
Furthermore Trump in 2002 said he supported the war in Iraq on the Howard Stern show.
As for Hillary`s emails on 8/25/2015 on CNN John Kirby who was the spokesperson for the State Dept said that Hillary did not violate State Dept rules or policy by using her own email server.I have Kirby`s recorded statement on my computer.
John Kerry is the first SOS to use a govt email account. Up until recently Defense Secretary Ash Carter used his own private email account. Furthermore the IG Stephen Linich was not Inspector General when Hillary was SOS.
Hillary was not being reckless. There is no equivalent regarding using emails and Trump wanting South Korea and Japan to have nuclear weapons or his wanting us to pulling of NATO.
Dowd over estimates the appeal of Trump. There is nothing playful about this whack job.Americans are not going to vote for a schoolyard bully for president.
Although Hillary voted for the war in Iraq she was not commander in chief and lead this country into war Bush 43 did. Even if Hillary voted against the war we still would have invaded Iraq. This is the Congressional vote:
77-23 for War Resolution-23 opposed in the Senate.
296 in favor of the war resolution in the House and 133 opposed in the House..
Furthermore Trump in 2002 said he supported the war in Iraq on the Howard Stern show.
As for Hillary`s emails on 8/25/2015 on CNN John Kirby who was the spokesperson for the State Dept said that Hillary did not violate State Dept rules or policy by using her own email server.I have Kirby`s recorded statement on my computer.
John Kerry is the first SOS to use a govt email account. Up until recently Defense Secretary Ash Carter used his own private email account. Furthermore the IG Stephen Linich was not Inspector General when Hillary was SOS.
Hillary was not being reckless. There is no equivalent regarding using emails and Trump wanting South Korea and Japan to have nuclear weapons or his wanting us to pulling of NATO.
Dowd over estimates the appeal of Trump. There is nothing playful about this whack job.Americans are not going to vote for a schoolyard bully for president.
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"There is no equivalent regarding using emails and Trump wanting South Korea and Japan to have nuclear weapons or his wanting us to pulling of NATO."
Unfortunately, yes there is.
Hillary promised AIPAC she was willing to attack Iran, and that nuclear weapons were "on the table" for that attack, in such outrageous terms that Justice Scalia in the audience spoke up and corrected her.
She recklessly engineered the attack on Libya.
She recklessly gave Victoria Nuland free rein to create the mess in Ukraine. Nuland is so reckless that she just did it again in Moldova, shocking that country.
She recklessly many times suggested open combat with Russia over Syria, as part of a large US move into the war in Syria.
She did these reckless things as Sec of State, not just a loudmouth.
Unfortunately, yes there is.
Hillary promised AIPAC she was willing to attack Iran, and that nuclear weapons were "on the table" for that attack, in such outrageous terms that Justice Scalia in the audience spoke up and corrected her.
She recklessly engineered the attack on Libya.
She recklessly gave Victoria Nuland free rein to create the mess in Ukraine. Nuland is so reckless that she just did it again in Moldova, shocking that country.
She recklessly many times suggested open combat with Russia over Syria, as part of a large US move into the war in Syria.
She did these reckless things as Sec of State, not just a loudmouth.
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Americans are not going to vote for a schoolyard bully for president.
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Right.
We "elected" W.Bush then Barack, who is carrying on the American military mission against the world, and now we have warrior Hillary stepping up to fix the world while our own tribes kill each other on the streets (we call them gangs here...)
It's a good thing the Times comps Ms. Dowd's trips. Otherwise she'd have to stay home in Washington, living on what she helped build over these past decades. She's safe there, no?
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Right.
We "elected" W.Bush then Barack, who is carrying on the American military mission against the world, and now we have warrior Hillary stepping up to fix the world while our own tribes kill each other on the streets (we call them gangs here...)
It's a good thing the Times comps Ms. Dowd's trips. Otherwise she'd have to stay home in Washington, living on what she helped build over these past decades. She's safe there, no?
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YEah but she's just a gurl.
She gets a pass.
She gets a pass.
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The only Democrat who really knows how to get under Trump's thin skin is Elizabeth Warren. Hillary Clinton entirely lacks an innate, natural ability to go verbally tear down an absolute idiot and a bully. She can't say anything without looking at her talking points first. Warren is the only one on the Democratic stage who can take Trump down so fast his face would turn beet red. He wouldn't know what to say except to stutter and scream some rubbish.
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Bernie can do that too. Sanders/Warren for 2016, then Warren for 2020. That is a real future for Democrats that could save our system.
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Dude it's over.
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Elizabeth Warren is an affirmative action baby.
Don't expect her to compete in an unartificial unacademic world.
She can't.
He can.
The blood is running in the streets, of California of all places! Just keep covering the "protestors". That will elect Trump more than anything else. The lawlessness and the disregard for American rules. There's enough white people and black/ethnic people who still understand what makes America great, better than other countries, is we do not accept lawlessness as the norm. Not throughout the country anyway. ALL life matters. Foreigners under drone eradication policies too!
Don't expect her to compete in an unartificial unacademic world.
She can't.
He can.
The blood is running in the streets, of California of all places! Just keep covering the "protestors". That will elect Trump more than anything else. The lawlessness and the disregard for American rules. There's enough white people and black/ethnic people who still understand what makes America great, better than other countries, is we do not accept lawlessness as the norm. Not throughout the country anyway. ALL life matters. Foreigners under drone eradication policies too!
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The Times has come out in droves this past week in your opinion pages for Hillary-Maureen title is great!( got me to take a peak at her thoughts,but he's not!)
But seriously, this is what political endorsement has bought you Hillary- a lot of silly writings by all before California.Come Tuesday evening we'll all know.
But seriously, this is what political endorsement has bought you Hillary- a lot of silly writings by all before California.Come Tuesday evening we'll all know.
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Yes, she voted to authorize George Bush to use military force against Iraq. She shouldn't have done it; it was the biggest regret of her career. She shouldn't have trusted him to use good judgment in determining whether war was necessary, or to carry it out competently.
But lets take a look at what Hillary DIDN'T vote for: She DIDN'T vote for him to screw the war up so badly. She DIDN'T vote for him to ignore the work of the IAEA weapons inspectors, who told the world they had not found weapons of mass destruction because there were none there. She DIDN'T vote for him to ignore the United Nations and go to war without the approval and participation of an ironclad coalition of the world's great democracies. She DIDN'T vote for the Bush administration to send far too few troops to secure Iraq, or to put in place military and administrative organizations that reeked of corruption, cronyism and ideological extremism.
But lets take a look at what Hillary DIDN'T vote for: She DIDN'T vote for him to screw the war up so badly. She DIDN'T vote for him to ignore the work of the IAEA weapons inspectors, who told the world they had not found weapons of mass destruction because there were none there. She DIDN'T vote for him to ignore the United Nations and go to war without the approval and participation of an ironclad coalition of the world's great democracies. She DIDN'T vote for the Bush administration to send far too few troops to secure Iraq, or to put in place military and administrative organizations that reeked of corruption, cronyism and ideological extremism.
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If She would have learned the lessons of Iraq,
the United States would hot have played a role in assassinating Libyan leader Moamar Ghaddafy and leaving that country without a government.
We are now going after the African countries, hoping to take out their governments and replace them with feuding tribes, armed by the US.
Here at home, we are doing the same thing: letting the natives in the streets kill themselves, and hoping the spillover does not touch the affluent areas. I hope Ms. Dowd and her pals are living it up in California, tweeting about a black man who rose to prominence (and mental illness) via his fists.
They seem to want this world of violence because it benefits them, and puts them at the top of the heap, savoring the good things in life. Look behind you ladies: is it really worth it?
the United States would hot have played a role in assassinating Libyan leader Moamar Ghaddafy and leaving that country without a government.
We are now going after the African countries, hoping to take out their governments and replace them with feuding tribes, armed by the US.
Here at home, we are doing the same thing: letting the natives in the streets kill themselves, and hoping the spillover does not touch the affluent areas. I hope Ms. Dowd and her pals are living it up in California, tweeting about a black man who rose to prominence (and mental illness) via his fists.
They seem to want this world of violence because it benefits them, and puts them at the top of the heap, savoring the good things in life. Look behind you ladies: is it really worth it?
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If she'd actually read the intelligence report she might have had a suspicion that giving the Bush administration authorization for war was a really bad idea. Others did.
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Ahhhhh, Maureen. I never felt so good reading an article about the election.
But I'm wondering. Why didn't you explore the bathroom issues of Adams being a hermaphodite? That's what I was hoping this article would be about........
But I'm wondering. Why didn't you explore the bathroom issues of Adams being a hermaphodite? That's what I was hoping this article would be about........
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Boy, Maureen Dowd sure loves to pull out the knives for Hillary. She treats Trump like some kind of harmless frat boy who says outrageous, racist and dangerous things over and and over again, but is really just a fun-loving cuddly teddy bear underneath it all. Not so for Hillary, though. If you take Maureen's word for it, Hillary is pretty much Evil Incarnate. I can only assume that somewhere along the line Hillary slighted Maureen, and Maureen has been on the warpath ever since. It's almost comical anymore.
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"Hillary is pretty much Evil Incarnate." We'll see that to your shame all too well, Nixon-style, before this is over if you get your way.
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I must admit that over the years, I've come to assume that Maureen offered herself to Bill at some point and was rejected (although I choose not to visualize Ms Dowd showing off her thong as the infamous young intern did). You know what they say about a woman scorned...
I find it hard to imagine any alternative scenario that would explain - much less justify - Ms Dowd's ongoing vendetta against the Clintons: mere political disagreement can't explain it. Her venomous rhetoric is manifestly personal.
What will she have as a topic if her support for Trump helps him prevail in November and the Clintons are no longer on the national political stage? Will she continue to spew her vitriol against them?
It's sad, but this once interesting columnist has become a one-trick pony. And many of us would like to see this aging pony put out to pasture.
I find it hard to imagine any alternative scenario that would explain - much less justify - Ms Dowd's ongoing vendetta against the Clintons: mere political disagreement can't explain it. Her venomous rhetoric is manifestly personal.
What will she have as a topic if her support for Trump helps him prevail in November and the Clintons are no longer on the national political stage? Will she continue to spew her vitriol against them?
It's sad, but this once interesting columnist has become a one-trick pony. And many of us would like to see this aging pony put out to pasture.
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Oh Mark just can it. This false equivalence is so tiring. Freud is having a field day with so much fixated "Eve" archetypes. What or where would we be if The strong willed Eve hadn't tempted the poor saintly guy with that apple. Eve, Eve you forced him to eat the fruit did you not? Ah Eve, oops I mean Hillary, why could you not have timidly waited in the shadow of the garden until your strong man brought you your food. If HE had given you the apple you would not have been banished from the beautiful garden to descend in evil and sin.
Sigh!
Sigh!
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"This is an election of vinegar and venom and endless nests of vipers."
Yep! It sure is Maureen. You haven't changed a bit. Bill, and George, and Barack, and now Hillary. You'd had venom enough for all of them.
Yep! It sure is Maureen. You haven't changed a bit. Bill, and George, and Barack, and now Hillary. You'd had venom enough for all of them.
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I am always confused reading Ms. Dowd. Is this pro or anti Hillary piece. In an odd way, this can be construed as pro-Trump.
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Make no mistake, it's pro-Trump.
Trump's right about Huma.
That woman is not trustworthy with national secrets and should never again be granted a security clearance.
That woman is not trustworthy with national secrets and should never again be granted a security clearance.
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I like Huma. She is the one thing I really like about Hillary.
Her husband is trash, but so is Bill for anyone willing to look.
Her husband is trash, but so is Bill for anyone willing to look.
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Sorry.
NYTimes put this comment in the wrong place.
NYTimes put this comment in the wrong place.
And from the wilds of Iceland, you base your opinion on what, exactly? That her name is Huma and not Harriet or Helena? That her father came from India and not Iceland or Ireland?
I'd be prepared to entertain your clearly racist/religionist theory if you could provide a single objective fact that supported your (and Trump's) assertions against her.
Senator John McCain - no slouch in the security field - said that the allegations against her had "no logic, no basis and no merit", and even the campaign manager of the former Republican congresswoman who first raised the false allegations said they were "extreme and dishonest".
You can fault the woman for her loyalty to her husband (a notorious philanderer), but you have no right to question her loyalty to this country based on her ethnic background.
I'd be prepared to entertain your clearly racist/religionist theory if you could provide a single objective fact that supported your (and Trump's) assertions against her.
Senator John McCain - no slouch in the security field - said that the allegations against her had "no logic, no basis and no merit", and even the campaign manager of the former Republican congresswoman who first raised the false allegations said they were "extreme and dishonest".
You can fault the woman for her loyalty to her husband (a notorious philanderer), but you have no right to question her loyalty to this country based on her ethnic background.
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Is Maureen Dowd a hermaphrodite? I don't know! How about Hillary? That would certainly be a vote getter and another group she could pander to? But it is more plausible that she has recently died as Bernie bleeds her a little each day.
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"jejunosity"
Sigh. Wordsmiths. ha.
Sigh. Wordsmiths. ha.
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Dowd uses a word (with a slightly different form) any high school senior is familiar with. That doesn't make her a "wordsmith."
It's not in my Webster's
"jejun"
This column needs correction:
(1) Hillary and others voted to keep the pressure on Saddam so the inspectors could carry out a search for WMDs. She did NOT vote to go to war. That Dubya, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Cheney and Rummy did. Get that straight for once and all.
(2) Colin Powell and Condi Rice used private mail servers, just like Hillary. Period. Try to remember that
(1) Hillary and others voted to keep the pressure on Saddam so the inspectors could carry out a search for WMDs. She did NOT vote to go to war. That Dubya, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Cheney and Rummy did. Get that straight for once and all.
(2) Colin Powell and Condi Rice used private mail servers, just like Hillary. Period. Try to remember that
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"Colin Powell and Condi Rice used private mail servers, just like Hillary" before these rules were in place. The rules were put in place as it became clear that was a problem.
Hillary knew that. She was told, and the response was orders not to bring it up again. It is not at all the same.
Hillary knew that. She was told, and the response was orders not to bring it up again. It is not at all the same.
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"(2) Colin Powell and Condi Rice used private mail servers, just like Hillary. "
No, they didn't. Colin Powell and Condi Rice had only private email addresses. Hillary is the only one who had a private mail server, which is much more significant.
No, they didn't. Colin Powell and Condi Rice had only private email addresses. Hillary is the only one who had a private mail server, which is much more significant.
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They sent dozens of emails that way; not 60,000!
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Well, there's the problem: Dowd really does think this is a high school popularity contest. Meanwhile, the "mean girl" thing she's got about Hillary has gotten really old.
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Ms Dowd, aren't you tired of trashing Hillary? You really don't look good. It is so obvious that you envy her and would love to be her!
All this doesn't make you a good reporter. A good reporter should be objective and you are not towards Hillary. Please, don't make a fool of yourself anymore!
I really don't know how the NY Times still have you as a columnist.
All this doesn't make you a good reporter. A good reporter should be objective and you are not towards Hillary. Please, don't make a fool of yourself anymore!
I really don't know how the NY Times still have you as a columnist.
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She's an op-ed writer. Op-eds are opinion pieces, not news articles.
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Why should she tire? Paul krugman hasn't tired of trashing Bernie or his supporters.
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If i go in for an operation do I care if my surgeon is likable, if I turn my money over to an equity advisor do I care if they are likable, and if I am trying to get a good bargain on a new car is it important the salesperson is likable. My priority should be that the surgeon is skilled, the investment advisor has a great track record on investing, and that the salesperson can cut me a good deal. President Obama famously said Hillary is likable enough. He then made her Secretary of State.
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Babel:
He made her Secretary of State. Ever hear of payback?
He made her Secretary of State. Ever hear of payback?
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Your point is well made, but in the real world most people do care in every one of your examples. Meritocracy is only one part of the human society.
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Do you care if the person is honest? Lies to you? Prudent with ensuring records are maintained and kept confidential?
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Elizabeth Warren should never have gotten into it with Trump, and neither should Hillary have (no matter how many people are cheering her on). Tangling with Trump is just sinking to his level. (Plus he's good at what he does; it's better not to even try to compete with it.) Enough of the American are smart enough to deal with the Trump factor at the ballot box. Hillary should just stick to policy speeches; woo the voters with what she plans to do, and ignore the rest of it. People want to know what candidates are for and what they are going to do (even though the media never ask them about policy). That's why Bernie Sanders has enormous crowds. He never gets diverted from his plans. That's the only professional way to campaign for President. (If others are losing their heads, don't join them.) Bernie might not win; too many people voted for Hillary before they got to know Bernie; that's particularly unfortunate. But Bernie was wise. And he's way up the ladder on Kohlberg's moral scale, way past feeling the only problem with whatever you do is people finding out and way past "I just did what the others were doing." Those two excuses are the lowest rungs of the moral scale--and way too childish for a potential President to be using.
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Bernie is the only candidate who has a moral center. I am actually praying that he wins California big on the 7th. Otherwise the youth vote will stay home and we will get a President Trump. What have we come to?
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Constitutional scholars
Might support a collar
On the Duck for flatulent contempt;
Duck'd have to run for office in jail
For as long as Judgie wanted without bail
As a kind of shock and awe current event.
Wouldn't Julius Hoffman
Put the Chi' 7 in cuffs, man,
Or gag the Donald even if it meant
Skirmishes between
The SS and US Marshals baldly seen
On cable and dish teevee 24/7 w/out relent--
Not to mention the networks for the poor to see
It all refreshingly for free
The Government stifling dissociative dissent?
Just sayin' in terza rime
The bikers might not like the prime time
But anyway it's getting belligerent.
Might support a collar
On the Duck for flatulent contempt;
Duck'd have to run for office in jail
For as long as Judgie wanted without bail
As a kind of shock and awe current event.
Wouldn't Julius Hoffman
Put the Chi' 7 in cuffs, man,
Or gag the Donald even if it meant
Skirmishes between
The SS and US Marshals baldly seen
On cable and dish teevee 24/7 w/out relent--
Not to mention the networks for the poor to see
It all refreshingly for free
The Government stifling dissociative dissent?
Just sayin' in terza rime
The bikers might not like the prime time
But anyway it's getting belligerent.
I hope Sally Field is wrong. Because if "We don't need someone who is nice," we, as a nation, can do no better than Donald Trump in that respect, and Hillary is no slouch.
Granted, "nice" was never brought up as a trait, positive or negative, about Obama, in '08 or '12. Aloof, maybe, but never "nice" or even "not nice." Besides, "nice" doesn't easily fit into the binary box.
I'm guessing that if Jefferson's charge against Adams, as related by our present-day sawbuck stand-in, did happen, and was true, then John Adams was our first transgender president. Ooohh! That's not gonna go down well in North Carolina. Georgia. Alabama. Texas. Arkansas. Oklahoma. Louisiana. Kentucky (You still there, Kim Davis?). And points south.
Bernie it is, then! Feel it! Curmudgeons are nice people, Maureen.
Granted, "nice" was never brought up as a trait, positive or negative, about Obama, in '08 or '12. Aloof, maybe, but never "nice" or even "not nice." Besides, "nice" doesn't easily fit into the binary box.
I'm guessing that if Jefferson's charge against Adams, as related by our present-day sawbuck stand-in, did happen, and was true, then John Adams was our first transgender president. Ooohh! That's not gonna go down well in North Carolina. Georgia. Alabama. Texas. Arkansas. Oklahoma. Louisiana. Kentucky (You still there, Kim Davis?). And points south.
Bernie it is, then! Feel it! Curmudgeons are nice people, Maureen.
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Donal Trump has brilliantly tweeted and insulted his way to become the Republican nominee. But it's all an illusion. He is a Trump l'oeil.
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Good one!
Love it. Trump l'oeil indeed! Here's one for what he will do to us if he is elected:
http://holeintheclouds.net/sites/holeintheclouds.net/files/good_morning/...
http://holeintheclouds.net/sites/holeintheclouds.net/files/good_morning/...
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A wonderful pun! "Trump l'oeil" indeed. Thanks for a great laugh!
Unless Bernie is able to surmount the top of whatever is left of the Democratic Ticket, the choice before the American voting public on Tuesday, November 8, 2016 will be between the lowest of the lowest common denominators.
Hillary is leading her own band of extremists. Donald is leading his own band of extremists.
The average citizen, who is probably your typical average middle-of-the-road voter, already feels that they have no viable choice in the 2016 presidential election. This is presumably the inevitable course on which the United States of America has been embarked for 240 years. The country, which can no longer be called a nation, (united or otherwise) is a failed state.
Hillary is leading her own band of extremists. Donald is leading his own band of extremists.
The average citizen, who is probably your typical average middle-of-the-road voter, already feels that they have no viable choice in the 2016 presidential election. This is presumably the inevitable course on which the United States of America has been embarked for 240 years. The country, which can no longer be called a nation, (united or otherwise) is a failed state.
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Objection! How dare you say that "Clinton is leading her own band of extremists," Reginald. The vast majority of Clinton's supporters like Sanders, while the majority of Sanders's supporters want Clinton imprisoned or guillotined. And if the elevation of Trump and Clinton to their respective party's nomination was inevitable, if you're going to take the deterministic approach to history, how can you complain about it? Why complain about that which was destined to be?
As for your claim that the United States is a failed state, I believe that one-ups even Karen Garcia, and perhaps even Norman Pollack, neither of whom I've yet seen employ this term. (To be fair, I'm certain it's in their armamentarium.)
Besides, Hillary Clinton is a furtive radical. I'm serious! In the immortal words of LeVar Burton on Reading Rainbow (you remember Reading Rainbow, doncha, Reg?), Don't take my word for it! Just ask John Bolton. He said so himself.
I know she's supposedly this big, you know, war hawk/criminal/Wall Street bad person thingy, but trust me, my man, she's got a heartfelt affiliation for Senator Sanders's democratic socialism. Once in office, she's going full-fledged Workers' State. TPP? Clinton's opposition is ever so genuine! 'Cause it's, like, bad. Right? Greenpeace and Chomsky said so, so, I mean, it must be. Those gosh darned corporations acting corporation-y! Vive la revolución!
As for your claim that the United States is a failed state, I believe that one-ups even Karen Garcia, and perhaps even Norman Pollack, neither of whom I've yet seen employ this term. (To be fair, I'm certain it's in their armamentarium.)
Besides, Hillary Clinton is a furtive radical. I'm serious! In the immortal words of LeVar Burton on Reading Rainbow (you remember Reading Rainbow, doncha, Reg?), Don't take my word for it! Just ask John Bolton. He said so himself.
I know she's supposedly this big, you know, war hawk/criminal/Wall Street bad person thingy, but trust me, my man, she's got a heartfelt affiliation for Senator Sanders's democratic socialism. Once in office, she's going full-fledged Workers' State. TPP? Clinton's opposition is ever so genuine! 'Cause it's, like, bad. Right? Greenpeace and Chomsky said so, so, I mean, it must be. Those gosh darned corporations acting corporation-y! Vive la revolución!
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I am an average American. I choose Clinton because I think she is the best. No other reason
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curious what state you consider not failed?
Another tiresome, smarmy sneer from MoDo who has got her Mean Girls imitation down pat: vacuous, non-stop nastiness.
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“'…I have heard the word likability used so frequently,' Sally Field said…. 'How Hillary Clinton is not likable. How she’s cold or shrill or an opportunist or just not someone you’d like to have a beer with. What is this? A high school popularity contest?'”
Susan Sarandon over The Flying Nun. Any day.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/susan-sarandon-hillary-clinton-...
SUSAN SARANDON CLINTON FILMOGRAPHY:
"The Rocky Horror Picture Show"—Mrs. Clinton's presence on the national stage.
"Compromising Positions"—the woman who rode to notoriety on the backs of her predatory husband and the women they abused.
"Little Women"—No Feminist Hill.
"The Witches of Eastwick"—nuff said.
"Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps"—for the Clintons and their foundation.
"The Buddy System"—"two for the price of one." (Turned out to be no bargain. A 25-year-and-running scam on America.)
"Thelma & Louise"—Huma & The Sleaze.
"James and the Giant Peach"—Comey's humongous criminal referral.
Susan Sarandon over The Flying Nun. Any day.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/susan-sarandon-hillary-clinton-...
SUSAN SARANDON CLINTON FILMOGRAPHY:
"The Rocky Horror Picture Show"—Mrs. Clinton's presence on the national stage.
"Compromising Positions"—the woman who rode to notoriety on the backs of her predatory husband and the women they abused.
"Little Women"—No Feminist Hill.
"The Witches of Eastwick"—nuff said.
"Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps"—for the Clintons and their foundation.
"The Buddy System"—"two for the price of one." (Turned out to be no bargain. A 25-year-and-running scam on America.)
"Thelma & Louise"—Huma & The Sleaze.
"James and the Giant Peach"—Comey's humongous criminal referral.
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And. Another thing. Chalk me up to sexist. But. Get a new stylist, Hillary. Barney-esque purple and jailhouse orange pant suits are clowny at best.
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Her clothes look like she bought them at an outlet mall in Alabama.
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Oh my gosh I know, I can't get over that horrible suit and how bad it looks on her. I was going to say it looks like something from Walmart but that's unfair to Walmart.
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I won't be voting for either of these"candidates." I can't be responsible for either of them governing. Who ever wins, it's a loss for American. I am looking for a write in candidate. Come on fellow Americans. lets support someone we can trust. Biden , Romney, Kasich?
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Dowd writes that "With its typical arrogance, Clintonworld can go too far."
Exactly what has she said about Trump that goes to far and when did she say Which of his disassociated rantings about - well everything - is Dowd talking about. Speaking of disassociated ranting, ,Dowd used to be a first rate political satirist. Her recent columns are a series of blurts about this, that or the other thing which include an apparently a compulsive need to remind us that the Clintons - notwithstanding the fact that they have devoted much of their lives improving the lives of others - are imperfect vessels. Really Sad
Exactly what has she said about Trump that goes to far and when did she say Which of his disassociated rantings about - well everything - is Dowd talking about. Speaking of disassociated ranting, ,Dowd used to be a first rate political satirist. Her recent columns are a series of blurts about this, that or the other thing which include an apparently a compulsive need to remind us that the Clintons - notwithstanding the fact that they have devoted much of their lives improving the lives of others - are imperfect vessels. Really Sad
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This is the election baby boomers have been waiting for. No one older is around to watch (does Sanders count?). This can be the lewdest, crudest, rocking and rollingest election of American history. Nothing is off limits.
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Those who disregard history are doomed to repeat it, MR, or something like that.
“no more bizarre than the election in 1800 wherein Jefferson accused Adams of being a hermaphrodite"
Hermaphrodites are the only ones Trump has not insulted. Yet.
Hermaphrodites are the only ones Trump has not insulted. Yet.
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Give it a rest on the emails, Maureen. If you read the inspector general's report, the subject of the report is the retention of email records by Secretaries of State -- and Hillary Clinton fits an overall pattern of Secretaries of State and other officials who have failed to retain emails as part of the public record. Then again, State Department policy was the absurd recommendation to "print and file" emails -- instead of developing an electronic database that would have taken full advantage of emails' searchability. And, while the inspector general makes the hypothetical, post facto assertion that permission would have been denied for a private email server, there was no regulatory basis for that at the time. By the same token, State Department management knew of Secretary Clinton's email arrangement and never once said anything to her about it. Not in writing, not in person. Nor did State Department diplomatic security or information resource management people ever -- NOT ONCE -- tell the new Secretary of State that she was obliged to use an official State email account for work. So, yes, it's easy to see how she might have thought that using her private email, like her predecessors and many others at State, was "allowed."
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The IGs post facto assertion that permission would have been denied is even more ridiculous when you consider that there was no IG at State for Hillary's entire tenure.
Should we blame Hillary for that too? Dowd would. She blames Hillary for Bill's decisions as president so it's only natural to blame her for Obama's too...anyone would think Hillary was running for a 5th term...
Should we blame Hillary for that too? Dowd would. She blames Hillary for Bill's decisions as president so it's only natural to blame her for Obama's too...anyone would think Hillary was running for a 5th term...
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jejunosity
Thanks, Maureen. You always make me look up a word.
Thanks, Maureen. You always make me look up a word.
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If you looked it up, you must have found that the word is jejuneness, not jejunosity.
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As far as the Tapper-Land Developer interview, didn't you notice how he kept saying over and over "I'm building a wall, ok?" It was amazing and kind of cognitively revealing that all he could do was repeat the same phrase over and over. Hillary=whip smart; Land developer=not so good
From the CNN transcript:
He's proud of his heritage. I - I respect him for that. ….. Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK. I'm building a wall. Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics…….. But we're building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico. …… Well, I want to - I'm building a wall, OK, and it's a wall between Mexico, not another country...”
From the CNN transcript:
He's proud of his heritage. I - I respect him for that. ….. Look, he's proud of his heritage, OK. I'm building a wall. Now, I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics…….. But we're building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico. …… Well, I want to - I'm building a wall, OK, and it's a wall between Mexico, not another country...”
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Except, of course, that Trump isn't building a wall between the US and Mexico and never will.
Maureen,
It aint really about likeability that's sinking madam neo-con.
It’s her history loaded with cutting corners, manipulations, deceit, triangulations, and lies.
Her lust for power and money at all costs knows no limits. She is the most polarizing to run for office since Nixon.
She voted to send Americans to their death trap in Iraq (7000 killed, 50000 + wounded) to build her own war credentials: the Iraq war vote was a mistake. No apology
She set her own rules private e-mail server to wheel and deal for money, delete government docs, then brazenly said: the e-mail server was a mistake (she used to laugh and cackle about it). No apology
She followed the neo-cons instructions and set up the Middle East on fire, then said: Obama made the decision to intervene in Libya
She paint Trump as irrational, naïve and will spread chaos around the world, but she will never admit she created the perfect fire storm in Syria and Libya.
Never authentic
Never trustworthy
No principles
But, it’s her turn and she is entitled!
So said her herd followers
It aint really about likeability that's sinking madam neo-con.
It’s her history loaded with cutting corners, manipulations, deceit, triangulations, and lies.
Her lust for power and money at all costs knows no limits. She is the most polarizing to run for office since Nixon.
She voted to send Americans to their death trap in Iraq (7000 killed, 50000 + wounded) to build her own war credentials: the Iraq war vote was a mistake. No apology
She set her own rules private e-mail server to wheel and deal for money, delete government docs, then brazenly said: the e-mail server was a mistake (she used to laugh and cackle about it). No apology
She followed the neo-cons instructions and set up the Middle East on fire, then said: Obama made the decision to intervene in Libya
She paint Trump as irrational, naïve and will spread chaos around the world, but she will never admit she created the perfect fire storm in Syria and Libya.
Never authentic
Never trustworthy
No principles
But, it’s her turn and she is entitled!
So said her herd followers
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" She is the most polarizing to run for office since Nixon."
Really? If you say so, or rather if FOX news says so....
Really? If you say so, or rather if FOX news says so....
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Republican talking points. You obviously drank the "Kool-Aid." However, you at least made your garbage dump in an appropriate place. Something very negative and dangerous about this column.
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Are you a Fox news pundit?
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Per Eisenberg:
But not to the vengeful Ms Dowd,
All Trump howlers can be allowed,
Long time Clinton hating
No signs of abating,
Persistent, pernicious and loud.
I think I have an explanation: Trump told Dowd she was a 10, and she thought he was sincere.
But not to the vengeful Ms Dowd,
All Trump howlers can be allowed,
Long time Clinton hating
No signs of abating,
Persistent, pernicious and loud.
I think I have an explanation: Trump told Dowd she was a 10, and she thought he was sincere.
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I'm completely disgusted with The Donald. But to be completely honest I also hate Hillary. So what choice does that leave me? I guess I'll continue to campaign for only candidate that will save the soul of this country -- Senator Sanders. Let's hope Californians are feeling the Bern too!
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What's worse? Accepting high speaking fees from Goldman Sachs or encouraging retirees or charge their credit cards to pay forTrump "University".
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I think Maureen posted this report from Denver...
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Pray this isn't a popularity contest, "reporters" such as yourself would be in a lot of trouble.
Regardless, if this contest is about any sort of real world presidential knowledge, Mr. Trump comes to the table empty handed and I don't care how Ms. Clinton paints that picture because it's true. So there's Mr. Trumps problem in a nutshell, he has no idea how to get the job done as president. As for your issues Ms. Dowd, you keep grinding axes until there's no axe left. Good luck with that.
Regardless, if this contest is about any sort of real world presidential knowledge, Mr. Trump comes to the table empty handed and I don't care how Ms. Clinton paints that picture because it's true. So there's Mr. Trumps problem in a nutshell, he has no idea how to get the job done as president. As for your issues Ms. Dowd, you keep grinding axes until there's no axe left. Good luck with that.
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Why must Maureen Dowd be so relentlessly trivial? We have in Trump a racist fool who is a danger to the Republic. Danger danger danger. Dowd focuses on Hillary's likeability? What a waste of Times' op-ed space.
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This was an excellent column. This is the first NYT one that actually held Hillary accountable for the way she deflected attention from the scathing Inspector General Report with a week of vile, orchestrated, attacks on Trump.
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Trump is indeed becoming unhinged and in the opinion of NYT columnist Tom Friedman on CNN the other day, "I really wish we had better choices but of the three characters still running, I will want the one who would do the least amount of damage". I assume that he referred to Hillary Clinton but having said this, I read a front page article in Friday's USA Today that compared Hillary and her palace guard to NIxon and his inner circle.
While Trump is manifestly unfit for any national office, I'm not sure that the slogan 'Hillary may be corrupt but she is better than Trump' won't encourage this Sanders supporter to write in his name in November.
While Trump is manifestly unfit for any national office, I'm not sure that the slogan 'Hillary may be corrupt but she is better than Trump' won't encourage this Sanders supporter to write in his name in November.
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When will people begin to understand that every Democratic write-in vote for Sanders is a vote for Trump --- that is, one more vote that he won't need in order to defeat Clinton? or don't they care?
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Ms. O'Dowd, I was at Ms. Clinton's rally yesterday with my young daughter so I feel qualified to tell you how completely wrong you are about how real women - those of us hundreds of women who were there yesterday - the same ones who bother to vote and do the grunt work it takes to support the candidate we are voting for - feel about Ms. Clinton and Ms. Field's introduction. There was a roar of applause for Ms. Field when she came out with her line about being "nice." The hundreds of women, myself included, are tired of being told to be "nice" - has a male manager ever worried about being "nice and likable? " It was cathartic to hear the "nicest" woman of them all talk about how tired we are of having to be prom queen and einstein in order to succeed in a man's world. We are done with that. We love and admire Ms. Clinton and all women like her. Your personal feelings are clouding your understanding of reality.
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uh oh - pardon the type-o - Ms. DOWD! Yikes!
Yes Dana, male managers have worried about being viewed as nice and likable, welcome to the 21st century. Did you wear an apron and pearls to this rally, geese ...
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@RimaRigas (...with a green check) wrote :
"There is a special hell for voters who vote against their own interests."
I am sick of the condescending comments across the board here in these comments which pretty much imply that if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton, then you are ignorant.
I would just like to add my two cents:
There is a special place in hell for for commenters who attempt to come between an American & his or her vote.
Americans don't need to be scolded, lectured or ridiculed for their choice this election. That's positively un-american.
Just because some smug folks feel they know what's best for us and even for the country, alas, doesn't make it so.
I urge everyone to vote with their heart, their conscience & their best judgment. It's your choice...and no one else's business!
The non-stop shaming of the Sanders & Trump supporters is unbelievable...
"There is a special hell for voters who vote against their own interests."
I am sick of the condescending comments across the board here in these comments which pretty much imply that if you don't vote for Hillary Clinton, then you are ignorant.
I would just like to add my two cents:
There is a special place in hell for for commenters who attempt to come between an American & his or her vote.
Americans don't need to be scolded, lectured or ridiculed for their choice this election. That's positively un-american.
Just because some smug folks feel they know what's best for us and even for the country, alas, doesn't make it so.
I urge everyone to vote with their heart, their conscience & their best judgment. It's your choice...and no one else's business!
The non-stop shaming of the Sanders & Trump supporters is unbelievable...
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In over 50 years of voting for a president, starting with John Kennedy, I do not recall any candidate, Republican or Democrat, being as bizarre as Trump. Trump is a strange and unusual person, someone capable of providing amusement for the benighted but not one with the skills required to advance the common good via rational and civil discourse.
Clinton , especially in her recent speech, gets it right about Trump when speaking of his ideas -- "They’re not even really ideas — just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies.” It will be a disaster if the rest of us do not get it right when the time comes to vote in November.
Clinton , especially in her recent speech, gets it right about Trump when speaking of his ideas -- "They’re not even really ideas — just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies.” It will be a disaster if the rest of us do not get it right when the time comes to vote in November.
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Hillary Clinton delivered a powerful speech only could be comparable to Barack Obams then . Soon Trump ended up with twitching problems while Sanders could no stop spitting at his mouth pointing his fingers at every single imaginary Democrat he could find.
Dowd could no contain herself flying on her way finding more ghost writers.
Dowd could no contain herself flying on her way finding more ghost writers.
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This email flap is ignoring the fact that many hackings and leaks are inside jobs conducted by IT workers -- hello, I'm talking about you too, Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden. Plus who knows how many others.
Sometimes your data is safer on a private server administered by someone you actually know and trust. So I'm not going to judge her on that. The rules aren't always right. The government has a history of being way behind on IT.
The thing I'm having trouble with right now is the NYT revelation -- thank you NYT very much by the way -- that the Mexican Army is fighting the drug war using mass extrajudicial homicide.
That really beats those emails in my mind right now. I doubt that even Nixon or Reagan in their darkest drug warrior hours would have approved of such a thing or turned a blind eye to it, as seems to be happening on everyone's part, even Bernie's, right now.
I'm so disturbed about this. I wish I had enough money to donate for five minutes with Hillary to ask her what gives and how can we accept this at all?
Talking about mass murder in the name of fighting substance abuse is not a subject that's going to make anyone appear "likable," alas.
Sometimes your data is safer on a private server administered by someone you actually know and trust. So I'm not going to judge her on that. The rules aren't always right. The government has a history of being way behind on IT.
The thing I'm having trouble with right now is the NYT revelation -- thank you NYT very much by the way -- that the Mexican Army is fighting the drug war using mass extrajudicial homicide.
That really beats those emails in my mind right now. I doubt that even Nixon or Reagan in their darkest drug warrior hours would have approved of such a thing or turned a blind eye to it, as seems to be happening on everyone's part, even Bernie's, right now.
I'm so disturbed about this. I wish I had enough money to donate for five minutes with Hillary to ask her what gives and how can we accept this at all?
Talking about mass murder in the name of fighting substance abuse is not a subject that's going to make anyone appear "likable," alas.
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"What is this? A high school popularity contest?”
Actually, it kind of is, Maureen, at least the way you are covering it
Actually, it kind of is, Maureen, at least the way you are covering it
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I happen to find groundedness, experience,seriousness, and adherence to shared reality not only likable traits but the stuff of charisma. And Hillary has ample charm and wit. These will be evident, once the media (no, I don't blame the media!) turns its attention from the self-inflated mountebank.
And if likability is the issue, how does Mr. Trump measure up? He is the quintessential bore: self-besotted, simple-minded, dishonest, sexist, racist, relentlessly antagonistic, and unable to engage in dialogue.
If we apply Trump's default rating system to the the two candidates, he deserves a fraction, and Hillary is a perfect 10.
I'd be delighted to have a beer with her any old time.
And if likability is the issue, how does Mr. Trump measure up? He is the quintessential bore: self-besotted, simple-minded, dishonest, sexist, racist, relentlessly antagonistic, and unable to engage in dialogue.
If we apply Trump's default rating system to the the two candidates, he deserves a fraction, and Hillary is a perfect 10.
I'd be delighted to have a beer with her any old time.
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ok, which toilets do hermaphrodites have to use ?
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Trump is about as playful as Hitler when he would do his little dance steps. I don't know who would consider Trump playful, unless you're a sick masochist, or sadist for that matter. No Maureen, there is absolutely NOTHING playful about Donald Trump. That was a poor use of words. Try again.
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Re the "nutty attack on a judge," the Duck is quite juggable for contempt. Why not Gentleman Bernie suggest so since Harried Hillary won't?
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I didn't even have to read this column to know that it would be a rant against Hillary Clinton. For God's sake, Maureen, give it up. Or are you just too enamored of Trump that you can't see the damage he could cause to the nation if he were elected?
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Wow #847 in Maureen Dowd's run of columns knocking the Clintons. What a surprise!
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All these limousine-liberals seemed to have drunk the Hillary cool-aid and don't seem to get the fact that this year in not about cool rational decisions as to who has ticked all the right experience boxes. Even it was a semi-normal election cycle, people just don't vote for candidates for purely rational reasons. You only have to look at the Tracy Flick character from the film, Election, 1999, - who reminds me a lot of Hillary - to see how people who work hard and try to tick all the right boxes are not always the most loved people in the world. In this election cycle people have reached a boiling point and are deciding on their candidate in almost purely irrational ways. That spells trouble for Hillary and the Democrats. As a Democrat it feels as though we are walking in some kind of zombie death-march toward defeat. And if the email scandal blows up, then what?
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Yes, Sally Field, The wife of an ex-president is not exactly the best role-model for generations of young women who want to make a mark on a progressive society.
HRC is a 100%, pure money generated marketing portfolio. There isn't one progressive fiber in her spiel.
Sally, if you ever wondered what a Richard Nixon in a lavender pantsuit would resemble,look no further. I hope that you are satisfied.
Wear your blinders to avoid acknowledging what her vote for the Iraq War Powers Resolution meant to millions of women of the Middle East.
Ditto: for her admiration of Kissinger and her usage of his playbook in Honduras where thousands of women are bearing the brunt of the oppression (murder, and confiscation of traditional sustainable plots) brought on by her friends in the coup.
This is no way to improve the fate of women worldwide.
In Central America Hillary is more attuned to the women of a certain class; like Jeb Bush's better half, or, the women of Opus Dei who live on top of a caste system.
Please look into her acts in Honduras:
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
HRC is a 100%, pure money generated marketing portfolio. There isn't one progressive fiber in her spiel.
Sally, if you ever wondered what a Richard Nixon in a lavender pantsuit would resemble,look no further. I hope that you are satisfied.
Wear your blinders to avoid acknowledging what her vote for the Iraq War Powers Resolution meant to millions of women of the Middle East.
Ditto: for her admiration of Kissinger and her usage of his playbook in Honduras where thousands of women are bearing the brunt of the oppression (murder, and confiscation of traditional sustainable plots) brought on by her friends in the coup.
This is no way to improve the fate of women worldwide.
In Central America Hillary is more attuned to the women of a certain class; like Jeb Bush's better half, or, the women of Opus Dei who live on top of a caste system.
Please look into her acts in Honduras:
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
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I could not agree more with you Clark Shanahan. Please do read the Nation article that he recommends:
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
Do voters really want the war criminal Henry Kissinger back in the advising business? Hillary does not care about all of the women killed in disastrous wars. She is a 1%er- and she works for them. Please deliver us- with Bernie winning the primaries on June 7th.
http://www.thenation.com/article/a-voters-guide-to-hillary-clintons-poli...
Do voters really want the war criminal Henry Kissinger back in the advising business? Hillary does not care about all of the women killed in disastrous wars. She is a 1%er- and she works for them. Please deliver us- with Bernie winning the primaries on June 7th.
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MD writes about Clinton: "She has not forthrightly taken responsibility or explained how she could stonewall the State Department inspector general. She’s still acting as though what she did was acceptable .... As usual with Hillary, she clearly feels the only problem was that people found out. It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was."
Really? Are you really obsessing about an email server when a pathological, maniacal, unbelievably diseased-minded proto-fascist is within spitting distance on the Oval office?
What is wrong with you Dowd?
Get over your own pathological hatred of all things Clinton. Yeah, they are far from saints as they pursue money and power. But so is virtually EVERYONE else in their business and, frankly, yours as you yourself pursue clicks and NY Times immortality with your waspy wit and clever take-downs.
But you know what, this is different. And your failure to harness your Hillary hatred (or is it envy) is not just sad but dangerous in that it offers one "respected" NY Times pundit take that The Donald is not all that different than Hillary.
Here's one reader who's not just disappointed but disgusted.
Really? Are you really obsessing about an email server when a pathological, maniacal, unbelievably diseased-minded proto-fascist is within spitting distance on the Oval office?
What is wrong with you Dowd?
Get over your own pathological hatred of all things Clinton. Yeah, they are far from saints as they pursue money and power. But so is virtually EVERYONE else in their business and, frankly, yours as you yourself pursue clicks and NY Times immortality with your waspy wit and clever take-downs.
But you know what, this is different. And your failure to harness your Hillary hatred (or is it envy) is not just sad but dangerous in that it offers one "respected" NY Times pundit take that The Donald is not all that different than Hillary.
Here's one reader who's not just disappointed but disgusted.
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Bravo and thank you - you hit it on all counts!
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Actually, "judgement" is a correct spelling. It certainly isn't the most accepted. And in legal circles this spelling is often despised. But it is a correct spelling (although I don't know why he would take so much time to add an extra letter).
I hate it when I have to defend him as being right. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
I hate it when I have to defend him as being right. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut.
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Not the American spelling. Never has been.
"She has not forthrightly taken responsibility or explained how she could stonewall the State Department inspector general."
Come now, stop repeating that nonsense about our former Secretary of State. She faced eleven hours of questioning by a Congressional panel. Eleven hours. Under oath. She has provided every scarp of possible information, answered every possible question, forthrightly, for eleven grueling hours. "It was allowed" is a perfectly reasonable answer, and comprehensible to that forum, being only three short words, only one with two syllables. Yet Dowd continues to repeat the popular, baseless conservative mantra that Mrs. Clinton has not responded sufficiently to "questions". Dowd's becoming irrelevant.
Come now, stop repeating that nonsense about our former Secretary of State. She faced eleven hours of questioning by a Congressional panel. Eleven hours. Under oath. She has provided every scarp of possible information, answered every possible question, forthrightly, for eleven grueling hours. "It was allowed" is a perfectly reasonable answer, and comprehensible to that forum, being only three short words, only one with two syllables. Yet Dowd continues to repeat the popular, baseless conservative mantra that Mrs. Clinton has not responded sufficiently to "questions". Dowd's becoming irrelevant.
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With her seemingly endless and increasingly tedious attempted takedowns of Hillary Clinton, Maureen Dowd more and more resembles the hapless cartoon character Wile E. Coyote in pursuit of the Road Runner rather than a NYT columnist.
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"her campaign has now settled on a strategy of painting the mogul as unhinged and thin skinned". Mo, when you continue to harp on minor details of Secretary Clinton's recent past and ancient history, you are painting a picture of Hillary as something she is not. When Hillary talked about Donald this week she was not strategizing or painting anything, she was telling it like it is. You continue painting Hillary with as broad a brush as possible while trying to paint a picture of Donald that ignores the color orange.
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Sorry Ms. Dowd but Mr. Trump's attack on an American born judge of Mexican descent is not "nutty' but straight out racist.
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Gosh, Mo, I guess I missed the Pulitzer-level subtlety and smoothness of the segue from Hillary's speech about Der Drumpf to the emails, silly me.
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One is overly secretive and scarred from 25 years of fabricated Republican attacks and an unfaithful husband, and is determined to make history in her own right because she can.
The other sees the single-minded aggregation of wealth and power as the only measure of success, panders to the basest instincts of humans, and may be losing touch with reality by living in a self enforced fantasy world.
And you, Maureen, stand where exactly? A pox on all our houses?
One is almost surely to become president. Our citizenship requires we take a stand.
The other sees the single-minded aggregation of wealth and power as the only measure of success, panders to the basest instincts of humans, and may be losing touch with reality by living in a self enforced fantasy world.
And you, Maureen, stand where exactly? A pox on all our houses?
One is almost surely to become president. Our citizenship requires we take a stand.
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Right Maureen give us the analogies that you pick up from a musical. Nothing I have written about exhibit A that one shouldnt give much credit to the Pulitzer gets on the Times but frankly I think no one is listening to your bile anymore. You think that email= the most naked racism that we have seen since Senator Eastman ....ok that tells us about you and the people you like
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This is an editorial whose point is what? The only thing it taught me is that I fell for the "bait and switch" - title designed to peak my curiosity followed by a whole lot of nothing.
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clinton looks like gabriel the arcangel compared to trump.
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'But Field, one of several actresses and women pols warming up the crowd for Hillary, was determined to make the case that unpopularity shouldn’t be disqualifying — especially for a woman. “We don’t need someone who is nice,” she said. '
I've been saying that since Reagan was running. I kept hearing about "But he's such a nice man." I don't think being someone you want to have a beer (or a glass of white wine) with is an important quality for being president. Smart, informed, intelligent, possessing impulse control are the kinds of things that matter
I've been saying that since Reagan was running. I kept hearing about "But he's such a nice man." I don't think being someone you want to have a beer (or a glass of white wine) with is an important quality for being president. Smart, informed, intelligent, possessing impulse control are the kinds of things that matter
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But BMH: Clinton on tape has lost it in public several times with young Black Lives Matter and Greenpeace activists -- so much for impulse control..
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W. was nice too. Wouldn't mind going out for a cup of coffee with him and talk about his new painting career, preferably in Maine not Dallas. But what a president he turned out to be. Let's be fair about the Iraq vote. Everyone was sold a false bill of goods and many intelligent people and newspapers endorsed the move. It was a fraught time for the country. Well we are in dangerous times now. We need leadership that is experienced not some vile, inexperienced man who worries about his hairspray that isn't as good as before we got concerned about global warming. I close with an old mommy adage "if you can't say something nice about someone, say nothing at all". And I mean you and the Clintons, enough already, not you and Trump who isn't nice at all.
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I'm also sick of Susan Sarandon and her opinion of Hillary. Remember, Sarandon is the woman who campaigned for Ralph Nader and said there was no difference between George W Bush and Al Gore. And she wants a revolution if Sanders gets the nomination and Trump wins. A revolution? How will she be affected? Does she need Medicare and Social Security" Would she, indeed, suffer at all? Why doesn't her heart bleed for the people all over the world who will be poorer and more unsafe if she gives us Trump?
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Trump's candidacy alone means we have sunk to new lows in education. Americans are sadly the least educated in the free world. Trump is taking advantage of their ignorance, and elevating it to wisdom when it leads to him. We all should be ashamed to have allowed this to happen. Having Mrs. Clinton run against Trump is debasing and tantamount to boxing a Kangaroo.
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"It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was."
That's what you're going with now, Ms. Dowd? Trump wants to deport 11 million people, ban Muslims, build a wall along the southern border and make Mexico pay for it, tear up trade agreements, allow nuclear war, add $12 trillion to the national debt, weaken the First Amendment, prosecute women for having abortions, and challenge the idea of an independent judiciary. But Hillary can't say anything about him because of her use of an *email server*? The same practice engaged in by Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice? And you're accusing Trump of being nutty?
You say that Hillary can't fathom how reckless she was. It's funny, but I can't fathom how reckless she was either. In fact I don't see "recklessness" there at all--only a minor issue of no interest to anyone kept alive for years by corrupt Republicans and professional Clinton haters like Maureen Dowd.
That's what you're going with now, Ms. Dowd? Trump wants to deport 11 million people, ban Muslims, build a wall along the southern border and make Mexico pay for it, tear up trade agreements, allow nuclear war, add $12 trillion to the national debt, weaken the First Amendment, prosecute women for having abortions, and challenge the idea of an independent judiciary. But Hillary can't say anything about him because of her use of an *email server*? The same practice engaged in by Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice? And you're accusing Trump of being nutty?
You say that Hillary can't fathom how reckless she was. It's funny, but I can't fathom how reckless she was either. In fact I don't see "recklessness" there at all--only a minor issue of no interest to anyone kept alive for years by corrupt Republicans and professional Clinton haters like Maureen Dowd.
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There already is a wall built on our southern border. There are sections that are complete and have been improved over the years like the one near Tijuana. Other parts of the border are monitored by video cameras and border patrol.
Congress has provided funds over many years to build and enhance the wall and provide better border security, so the idea of building a wall is not new.
Congress has provided funds over many years to build and enhance the wall and provide better border security, so the idea of building a wall is not new.
Now here's a writer! Did you write that great speech Hillary gave? Right on Bro!!
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Bravo!!!!
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Boris (Woody Allen): That's jejune? You have the temerity to say that I'm talking to you out of jejunosity? I am one of the most june people in all of the Russias!".
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Trump is much, much more than"jejeune." He's truly a vicious autocrat who is mentally unstable, This is now simply an election about choosing between someone who's sane and someone who clearly isn't. And, as a psychologist, I feel there's nothing really funny about it. Whether you like Hillary or not (I'm guessing you don't, Maureen), you should not blind yourself nor your readers to what has to be quite apparent to all after the Trump Tantrums this past week over the "Mexican" judge who is treating him "unfairly" over his Trump U. (yes, Hillary got that right, too) scam because he supposedly, given that he's Mexican, must be against building a wall and thus biased. If this doesn't say "derangement," I don't know what does. OK, maybe it's Obama being a foreigner or saying he'll rewrite the 1st amendment to allow him to sue reporters and jail Hillary. So, the only way to deal with Donald the Deranged Dictator is, for those (as Hillary noted) not psychiatrists, to resist the urge to take his narcissistic nuttiness seriously. That is why Sec. Clinton's put down of the Tempestuous Trump was pure genius. It is the "weirdly" behavior of Delusional Donald, not this column, that gives me hope that sanity will prevail this November.
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Comapring HRC's "transgressions" to the vainglorious, distemperate and egregiously counterfactual that spills from Trumps mouth, pen and phone on a daily basis is not comparing apples to apples, or even apples to oranges, it's comparing heartburn to necrotizing fasciitis. By the way, Maureen, try to remember that we didn't go to war in Iraq on HRC's say so alone, it wasn't even her idea, and lot of folks who should have known better than she were in front of her in the line.
How can an established columnist for a major metropolitan newspaper be able to leap over the obvious shortcommings of one candidate, a steamy locomotive headed for a train wreck, while holding the feet of another to the fire for jaywalking? The only real question left is how will the Donald distance himself from the highly incriminating playbook that specifically encourages bank fraud by it's "students"? Will it be enough to avoid direct prosecution? Is there even a hint of plausable deniability? Incurious Dowd doesn't want to know.
Trump is the proverbial scorpion atop the turtle in the middle of the river. Thus, it can't be long before he takes a more pointed view of Ms. Abedin, and her lout of a husband. He can't resist, given his penchant for saying anything he thinks will rally the bully base he cultivates. Tell them what to be afraid of, who to blame for it, and thus who to hate, and Yahtzee! Those 2 are a target rich environment that could hoist him on his own petard, given it's NYC and all.
How can an established columnist for a major metropolitan newspaper be able to leap over the obvious shortcommings of one candidate, a steamy locomotive headed for a train wreck, while holding the feet of another to the fire for jaywalking? The only real question left is how will the Donald distance himself from the highly incriminating playbook that specifically encourages bank fraud by it's "students"? Will it be enough to avoid direct prosecution? Is there even a hint of plausable deniability? Incurious Dowd doesn't want to know.
Trump is the proverbial scorpion atop the turtle in the middle of the river. Thus, it can't be long before he takes a more pointed view of Ms. Abedin, and her lout of a husband. He can't resist, given his penchant for saying anything he thinks will rally the bully base he cultivates. Tell them what to be afraid of, who to blame for it, and thus who to hate, and Yahtzee! Those 2 are a target rich environment that could hoist him on his own petard, given it's NYC and all.
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This op-ed could have been headlined "Maureen Dowd Was a Good Writer" and it would have been more connected to the context that the one used. Dowd not only continues her Clinton bashing, but she also relishes in taking down Sally Field too! It is clear Ms. Dowd has little insight into what constitutes effective leadership. So she resorts to clever put-downs of those in power that she has determined are not morally or intellectually worthy, or sophisticated enough to earn her approval. Bill and Hillary, Obama, Albright, and now poor Sally Field -- they become her go to foils, but somehow Trump made the cut. Perhaps because she a Donald share a similar jejunosity in their verbal and printed commentary. Also, it is pretty transparent that Dowd's heightened sensitivity to the Clintonworld's "typically arrogance" is simply a projection of her own insufferable arrogance.
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Maureen, your pal Donald's attack on Judge Curiel is not "nutty," it's racist. Why do you shy from the truth? Oh yeah, it gets in the way of trying to take Secretary Clinton down a notch.
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One of the salient characteristics that distinguishes Trump from the men who have actually served as president involves his style of leadership. American presidents, especially the great ones (Washington, Lincoln, the Roosevelts), have traditionally approached their responsibilities with a sense of dignity and integrity that seemed appropriate to the high office they held. The ability of men like Washington and Lincoln to inspire trust and confidence arose directly from the public's belief that these were men of strong character.
Trump has adopted a different method of establishing his leadership credentials. His charisma stems from the boldness with which he attacks and scorns every established standard of acceptable behavior and attitude in modern Western cultures. His supporters, who reject at least some of these mores as hypocritical, draw inspiration from Trump's willingness to defy the enforcers of the cultural status quo.
Lincoln led by pursuing the common good, as he understood it, even at the expense of his own welfare. He sought to build a better society, even if that meant destroying some elements of the old one. Trump uses a wrecking ball simply to enhance his popularity, without any sense or concern about how to replace what he demolishes.
Clinton and Sanders, for all their faults, prefer the Lincoln approach. But I suppose leadership, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Trump has adopted a different method of establishing his leadership credentials. His charisma stems from the boldness with which he attacks and scorns every established standard of acceptable behavior and attitude in modern Western cultures. His supporters, who reject at least some of these mores as hypocritical, draw inspiration from Trump's willingness to defy the enforcers of the cultural status quo.
Lincoln led by pursuing the common good, as he understood it, even at the expense of his own welfare. He sought to build a better society, even if that meant destroying some elements of the old one. Trump uses a wrecking ball simply to enhance his popularity, without any sense or concern about how to replace what he demolishes.
Clinton and Sanders, for all their faults, prefer the Lincoln approach. But I suppose leadership, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
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James,
And Hillary supports he common good? Not hardly. She is for trade agreements, Wall street bankers, and war. Please kindly do NOT put Hillary in the same category as Abraham Lincoln.
And Hillary supports he common good? Not hardly. She is for trade agreements, Wall street bankers, and war. Please kindly do NOT put Hillary in the same category as Abraham Lincoln.
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I've now read 4 comments, and all of them seem to have more depth of understanding of Trump then Dowd's. Thank heaven for the comments section.
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I voted for Bernie in Oregon, and hope against hope that he can pull it off on June 7th. In November I'll be voting the Democratic ticket regardless whoever the standard bearer is against Trump, as any sane individual should do. I remember Gore's downfall by Nader, and will do all I can to dissuade my fellow Bernie supporters not to let history repeat itself.
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I get Weiner's tweet. You don't?
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Question to Maureen Dowd: WHO are YOU voting for in the upcoming election, Trump or Clinton? State it clearly so that the disguised hyperbole of your writing is brought clearly out into the open. My guess? Your lack of morality should put you firmly in the camp of "the donald", a camp from which NO ONE ever emerges with their dignity left intact.
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Huh?
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Strange column.
Anyway, Clinton can use this bumper sticker slogan — Hillary: At least i'm sane.
Anyway, Clinton can use this bumper sticker slogan — Hillary: At least i'm sane.
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Trump is good at making "mountains out of molehills" appealing to the debased and prurient mindset of the angry mob.
But, his ugly demeanor can be turned against him. Turn about is fair play. Trump me! Trump you! Hillary also has a serious advantage. She knows what Americans are troubled by, what their needs are and can devise real world plans to deal with them. Trump has no clue!
As I've said elsewhere she needs to do both, Trump him..."He's just upset about the emails, because they weren't manic yellow and didn't have his name on them!" Then show her serious side. Demonstrate her concern and connectedness to the American public.
A friend, Jim calls him "VD - Vacillating Don". The Don, says one thing on a Monday, contradicts himself on Tuesday, then denies it all on Wednesday. This is only one of his many character faults.
But, his ugly demeanor can be turned against him. Turn about is fair play. Trump me! Trump you! Hillary also has a serious advantage. She knows what Americans are troubled by, what their needs are and can devise real world plans to deal with them. Trump has no clue!
As I've said elsewhere she needs to do both, Trump him..."He's just upset about the emails, because they weren't manic yellow and didn't have his name on them!" Then show her serious side. Demonstrate her concern and connectedness to the American public.
A friend, Jim calls him "VD - Vacillating Don". The Don, says one thing on a Monday, contradicts himself on Tuesday, then denies it all on Wednesday. This is only one of his many character faults.
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You picked Elizabeth Warren as the model for what Hillary should aspire to. There is no one else in the Democratic Party that I would support more than Sen Warren
Unfortunately the gap between between Sen Warren & HIllary is too great a leap for Hillary to make. Sen Warren has the courage of her convictions & they are founded on facts with an understanding of how her positions will affect the People. Hillary is at bottom a Financial Sector puppet whose policies along with those of Bill & Obama have betrayed the 99%
The regulations that Bill & Hillary did away with calling it the End of Big Government set in motion the greatest economic collapse of our time. Hillary's support for the Republican Bankruptcy Reform Act blocked homeowners from using chapter 13 to hold onto their homes. Obama's funding of the big banks that then funded hedge funds & predatory lenders has left countless numbers in a debt cycle while the hedge funds get sweetheart deals from Castro at HUD to scoop up foreclosed houses that are then used in rent to own scams
However ultimately I can't vote for Trump because his attack on a federal judge was so far outside the bounds that nothing he says or does can undo it. So I will have to vote for Corrupt & Crooked Hillary, she clearly violated criminal law with her email server. who will talk a good game for We the People but will only advance the agenda of the Financial Sector as she probably promised in her very well paid for speeches we'll never get to read
Unfortunately the gap between between Sen Warren & HIllary is too great a leap for Hillary to make. Sen Warren has the courage of her convictions & they are founded on facts with an understanding of how her positions will affect the People. Hillary is at bottom a Financial Sector puppet whose policies along with those of Bill & Obama have betrayed the 99%
The regulations that Bill & Hillary did away with calling it the End of Big Government set in motion the greatest economic collapse of our time. Hillary's support for the Republican Bankruptcy Reform Act blocked homeowners from using chapter 13 to hold onto their homes. Obama's funding of the big banks that then funded hedge funds & predatory lenders has left countless numbers in a debt cycle while the hedge funds get sweetheart deals from Castro at HUD to scoop up foreclosed houses that are then used in rent to own scams
However ultimately I can't vote for Trump because his attack on a federal judge was so far outside the bounds that nothing he says or does can undo it. So I will have to vote for Corrupt & Crooked Hillary, she clearly violated criminal law with her email server. who will talk a good game for We the People but will only advance the agenda of the Financial Sector as she probably promised in her very well paid for speeches we'll never get to read
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This column should come with a checklist:
Attacked Hillary Clinton's persona? Check.
Found a way to support Trump's "manly" persona? Check.
Mentioned "Hamilton" to prove that the column was written in 2016? Check.
Conclusion: it's the same Maureen Dowd column that we saw last week, the week before, the week before that....
Attacked Hillary Clinton's persona? Check.
Found a way to support Trump's "manly" persona? Check.
Mentioned "Hamilton" to prove that the column was written in 2016? Check.
Conclusion: it's the same Maureen Dowd column that we saw last week, the week before, the week before that....
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Which bathroom did John Adams use?
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I see the point the NYT is desperately trying to make for Hillary. But it's much more than that she is a woman and so we don't like that she is an opportunist or money grubbing with paid speeches or shrill. Hillary does not inspire the way a Leader does.
Angela Merkel, Margaret Thatcher and the late Benazir Bhutto were also tough, strong women leaders and I admired them even when I didn't agree with them. I think Hillary is a capable "MANAGER" and could run the country but she does not instill what these other women "LEADERS" did for whatever reason. Obama used "likability" and that's a shorthand for that missing ingredient which is the leadership charisma so plainly missing.
I think if Hillary hadn't married Bill he would of made a wonderful CIO or CEO, I think she married Bill and so went into politics and got farther on that association than she ever could have on her own. It pains me to say that, I always vote Democrat, and may hold my nose and vote for her, but I've found her to be someone who could take a note from watching videos of Thatcher or Bhutto or others and would hope she wasn't so arrogant that she couldn't at least learn something about grace under pressure. But, trying to make a leader I really want to follow is outside her DNA.
Angela Merkel, Margaret Thatcher and the late Benazir Bhutto were also tough, strong women leaders and I admired them even when I didn't agree with them. I think Hillary is a capable "MANAGER" and could run the country but she does not instill what these other women "LEADERS" did for whatever reason. Obama used "likability" and that's a shorthand for that missing ingredient which is the leadership charisma so plainly missing.
I think if Hillary hadn't married Bill he would of made a wonderful CIO or CEO, I think she married Bill and so went into politics and got farther on that association than she ever could have on her own. It pains me to say that, I always vote Democrat, and may hold my nose and vote for her, but I've found her to be someone who could take a note from watching videos of Thatcher or Bhutto or others and would hope she wasn't so arrogant that she couldn't at least learn something about grace under pressure. But, trying to make a leader I really want to follow is outside her DNA.
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"Trump speculated at his rally that Hillary might share sensitive information with her aide Huma Abedin who might share it with her husband, saying: “I know Anthony Weiner. I don’t want him knowing anything. And I never, ever want him to tweet me.”
So, of course, Weiner tweated immediately and incoherently: “Wait, is he talking to me. I’ll hit that guy with so many rights, he’ll be begging for a left.”
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Hillary must arrange for Ms. Abedin to find other employment, perhaps as a reality star based on her soon released documentary that tells all, making she and her husband always a diversion in the White House as HRC's ever present aide.
If HRC is to be the contrast to a showman, she must start now. It's a shame she gave her condemnation of Trump at a rally, where her trenchant statements were greeted with cheers and laughter.
If she fights Trump on his terms, she (and the country) lose. Don't entertain us, but show us what it is to make reasoned decisions for the benefit of the country she would lead.
Al Rodbell.com
So, of course, Weiner tweated immediately and incoherently: “Wait, is he talking to me. I’ll hit that guy with so many rights, he’ll be begging for a left.”
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Hillary must arrange for Ms. Abedin to find other employment, perhaps as a reality star based on her soon released documentary that tells all, making she and her husband always a diversion in the White House as HRC's ever present aide.
If HRC is to be the contrast to a showman, she must start now. It's a shame she gave her condemnation of Trump at a rally, where her trenchant statements were greeted with cheers and laughter.
If she fights Trump on his terms, she (and the country) lose. Don't entertain us, but show us what it is to make reasoned decisions for the benefit of the country she would lead.
Al Rodbell.com
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Were we watching the same course of events this week?
Hillary Clinton Thursday reminded us of why she had a high approval rating as Secretary of State, and demonstrated that this election is not a choice between the lesser of two evils and that in dangerous and fragile world, she is absolutely the right person for the job at this moment in history.
The last 10 or so days for Trump have been nothing short of a spectacular, flaming, car crash of a meltdown that just hasn't yet been reflected in the polls, the latest Reuters-Ipsos poll notwithstanding. The rants about Judge Curiel are bad enough. The Trump U materials that were released and the news of the quashed Texas investigation are just devastating. The email server may not have reflected the best judgment, but the Clintons can't be accused of putting their name on an enterprise that was pressure-selling economically stressed people into taking on credit card and mortgage debt for worthless real estate seminars.
Get a grip, Maureen. The Trump Hindenburg is crashing and - as much as it seems to distress you - Hillary Clinton has become truly presidential. This game is already over.
Hillary Clinton Thursday reminded us of why she had a high approval rating as Secretary of State, and demonstrated that this election is not a choice between the lesser of two evils and that in dangerous and fragile world, she is absolutely the right person for the job at this moment in history.
The last 10 or so days for Trump have been nothing short of a spectacular, flaming, car crash of a meltdown that just hasn't yet been reflected in the polls, the latest Reuters-Ipsos poll notwithstanding. The rants about Judge Curiel are bad enough. The Trump U materials that were released and the news of the quashed Texas investigation are just devastating. The email server may not have reflected the best judgment, but the Clintons can't be accused of putting their name on an enterprise that was pressure-selling economically stressed people into taking on credit card and mortgage debt for worthless real estate seminars.
Get a grip, Maureen. The Trump Hindenburg is crashing and - as much as it seems to distress you - Hillary Clinton has become truly presidential. This game is already over.
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Maureen, you must be in your own special media heaven during this Presidential cycle. It plays directly into many of your interpretations of political events over the years you have been writing, such as about what defines the intersection between show business and politics, about the inherent dishonesty of politics in general, and about the Clintons in particular. For you, Trump is a louche warrior-god descended straight from Central Casting who is street-smart enough to fillet most of those who cross his path. which is now strewn with has-been politicians who want the glare of new media exposure, or a job in his new administration. Fortunately for us, he will never become President. I believe you are aware of this, but watch and work with supreme satisfaction that your life's work has culminated in such an operatic confirmation of your political instincts.
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Maureen, before you correct someone's spelling, be sure you know what you're talking about. "Judgement" is an acceptable spelling, as is "judgment".
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/judgmen...
That said, Trump remains an unacceptable choice for president.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/judgmen...
That said, Trump remains an unacceptable choice for president.
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"That, of course, is an open invitation for Trump to recall that many did die in the Iraq war Clinton voted for..."
And THAT sentence is an open invittion to me to remind you that she did no such thing. You should stop copying and pasting the mischaracterization of her war authority vote by Trump and Sanders and pretending it is either accurate or your own.
And THAT sentence is an open invittion to me to remind you that she did no such thing. You should stop copying and pasting the mischaracterization of her war authority vote by Trump and Sanders and pretending it is either accurate or your own.
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Hillary Clinton voted for the war because the Bush administration lied not only to her, but also the American people.
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Inadequate likability has never been Hillary's problem. She likes herself just the way she is -- and always has. She doesn't want or need anyone else to like her -- any more than Trump does.
This is an election about hate and fear. It's not about whether the 1% end up with more money or more taxes. Trump has shown that we don't hate or fear the 1%. It's not about whether Hillary's government experience qualifies her better than Trump's business experience qualifies him. The presidency is a job for which no prior experience is relevant.
The issue is hate and fear. We want the candidate whom every other country and people in the world will hate and fear. And that's the candidate we'll elect.
This is an election about hate and fear. It's not about whether the 1% end up with more money or more taxes. Trump has shown that we don't hate or fear the 1%. It's not about whether Hillary's government experience qualifies her better than Trump's business experience qualifies him. The presidency is a job for which no prior experience is relevant.
The issue is hate and fear. We want the candidate whom every other country and people in the world will hate and fear. And that's the candidate we'll elect.
I find it ironic that the US presidents that were internationally hated and who's action's/judgement were "feared" such as Nixon, Reagan, Bush the Lesser to name a few of recent vintage probably reserved their most damaging conduct for their fellow citizens, especially if one excludes the Iraqi debacle.(There were no winners there). So go ahead America, elect a leader that the world "hates and fears", just remember that the victims most profoundly impacted by their conduct will most likely be seen when you look in a mirror.
Maureen, as usual, you are missing a very important aspect to Thursday's speech by Hillary. After she eviscerated him with his own words not one Republican came to his defense. Not one said "Hillary is lying" or "he did not say those things. Of course he did but it sure seems that Trump's bloviating is not only empowering Democrats but repelling Republicans. Donald Trump claims Mexicans love him but he doesn't want a Mexican Judge on his case because Mexicans hate him?
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Hillary definitely put her best sensible shoe forward with that speech. She needs to keep lifting her game up like that if she's to push thru the absurdity of where she now finds herself. For after 50 years of a climb up the hill as a pure feminist, she is about to do final battle for the holy grail against the arch-defender himself: an inherited-wealth, golf-playing, thrice-married sexist, who has the emotional IQ of a 15 year old and the fuzzy wealth of Gordon Gecko-complete with your grandfather's ridiculous comb-over.
If she goes down, believe me, it will be with a smile on her face and a bourbon over ice in her hand. And if she wins, and I think she will, there will be bourbon for all.
Either way, she is legend.
If she goes down, believe me, it will be with a smile on her face and a bourbon over ice in her hand. And if she wins, and I think she will, there will be bourbon for all.
Either way, she is legend.
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Sally Fields remarks about "bring liked" we're made many years ago when she accepted the Oscar for best actress. I heard the speech, and assumed those remarks were not about being being liked as a person, but finally gaining acceptance as a serious actress. Some in the news media such as yourself Ms. Dowd are promoting the image of Clinton as a cold unlikeable woman. You are also not so subtly hinting that women are being called on to vote for her just because she is a woman. From the very beginning of this outrageous election year, she has been the most credentialed and the most highly qualified person seeking the office of the Presidency. Have you given any really serious thought as to what it will mean for this country if Clinton is defeated in November? Do you really dislike Clinton so much that you would relish the thought of Trump being elected our next President? Do his comments about arming everyone with nuclear weapons not give you pause about this man's qualifications to be President? Do you really want him to have access to the nuclear codes?
I will be voting for Clinton not because she is a woman, but because the alternative is unthinkable.
I will be voting for Clinton not because she is a woman, but because the alternative is unthinkable.
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It seems Hillary's speech got under your skin also. That explains some some rambling in your column.You never expected that she is capable of hitting back at Trump and elevate herself at the same time. It seems you have a soft heart for Donald and some personal unsettled scores with Hillary.
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You have lost all journalistic credibility when you can label Trumps attack on the judge as simply nutty or his attack on New Mexico's Republican governor. That was not nutty behavior Maureen. It is downright racist, and in the case of the governor intimidating and bullying.
Why you who have written so eloquently and articulately about the abuse of the Catholic Church cannot find the right adjective to accurately describe Trump's abusive, racist and misogynist behavior boggles the mind. Your coy writings about Trump is nauseous and so very very wrong.
Why you who have written so eloquently and articulately about the abuse of the Catholic Church cannot find the right adjective to accurately describe Trump's abusive, racist and misogynist behavior boggles the mind. Your coy writings about Trump is nauseous and so very very wrong.
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We Dems...are stuck with Hillary as our candidate. Let's hope Bernie can redirect the ship. In the meanwhile, I think the way to attack Trump is to keep nipping at his thin skin.
Cheer Elizabeth Warren on...encourage the late night hosts and comedians to ridicule the many different and bombastic positions Trump has taken on the same issue. Make it a death by a thousand cuts.... He gets annoyed and lashes out. Americans will not see this as Presidential.
Meanwhile it is sad to see people like McCain and Gonzales endorse and defend Trump.
Cheer Elizabeth Warren on...encourage the late night hosts and comedians to ridicule the many different and bombastic positions Trump has taken on the same issue. Make it a death by a thousand cuts.... He gets annoyed and lashes out. Americans will not see this as Presidential.
Meanwhile it is sad to see people like McCain and Gonzales endorse and defend Trump.
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I guess this is as close to an endorsement of Hillary Clinton as we're ever going to get from Maureen Dowd.
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Lin-Manuel Miranda's analogy between the 1800 presidential election and today's is inapt and seriously flawed: Both Jefferson and Adams were intellectuals whereas Donald Trump is the most ignorant man, to the point of being dangerous, to ever run for the office. The present race is not a normal election as you would have us believe.
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Miranda's point was not the IQ of the candidates, but how ugly and dirty political campaigns can get -- nothing in the modern era even comes close to the 18th and 19th centuries, where it was not unusual for people in Congress to get into actual fisticuffs.
Maureen, with all due respect, HRC needs no notes from you.
Secretary Clinton was note perfect in her speech on Thursday in San Diego.
She cracked the code on combating Trump's ludicrous negative campaigning without descending to his level as Marco Rubio did.
She used contrast, with precise language free of Donald's exaggeration and facts to disassemble his policy prescriptions that no knowledgeable person from either party support.
Ryan's tepid "I'll vote for Donald" because he believes Trump will bend to his conservative ideology is not a vote of support, but an acknowledgment that the candidate would only be viable if his campaign to his supporters is a fraud of a demagogue.
For all your badgering of Hillary Clinton in one vapid column after another, she is doing just fine.
She has won millions more votes than any of the other 18 presidential nominees to date.
If she stays in the form and focus she displayed in San Diego on Thursday, she will be a welcome contrast to Trump's manic ill-informed and unconstrained campaign, and be our first woman President of the United States of America.
To that, I say hallelujah!
Secretary Clinton was note perfect in her speech on Thursday in San Diego.
She cracked the code on combating Trump's ludicrous negative campaigning without descending to his level as Marco Rubio did.
She used contrast, with precise language free of Donald's exaggeration and facts to disassemble his policy prescriptions that no knowledgeable person from either party support.
Ryan's tepid "I'll vote for Donald" because he believes Trump will bend to his conservative ideology is not a vote of support, but an acknowledgment that the candidate would only be viable if his campaign to his supporters is a fraud of a demagogue.
For all your badgering of Hillary Clinton in one vapid column after another, she is doing just fine.
She has won millions more votes than any of the other 18 presidential nominees to date.
If she stays in the form and focus she displayed in San Diego on Thursday, she will be a welcome contrast to Trump's manic ill-informed and unconstrained campaign, and be our first woman President of the United States of America.
To that, I say hallelujah!
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That is a silly comparison. Hillary won "more votes" because she was running against only ONE candidate (*who himself was utterly ignored and marginalized by this very publication).
Trump on the other hand, rose to nomination by beating out 16 other candidate, many of whom were seasoned politicians armed with tens of millions of dollars in "dark money". He had a far harder, uphill journey to the nomination.
HIllary was basically HANDED the nomination on a silver platter, due to her marriage to a former POTUS and the Democratic machine (as embodied by the truly evil Debbie Wasserman Schultz).
BTW: My husband and I just returned from a car trip, through several states in the "heartland". We lost track of how many Trump signs we saw -- hundreds, probably. We saw a far number of Sander's signs. But you could have counted the "Hillary" signs on one hand.
Trump on the other hand, rose to nomination by beating out 16 other candidate, many of whom were seasoned politicians armed with tens of millions of dollars in "dark money". He had a far harder, uphill journey to the nomination.
HIllary was basically HANDED the nomination on a silver platter, due to her marriage to a former POTUS and the Democratic machine (as embodied by the truly evil Debbie Wasserman Schultz).
BTW: My husband and I just returned from a car trip, through several states in the "heartland". We lost track of how many Trump signs we saw -- hundreds, probably. We saw a far number of Sander's signs. But you could have counted the "Hillary" signs on one hand.
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David, You can hardly compare the votes the 18 Republicans got as the same as the votes she got. Those Republican votes were divided 18 ways. Too bad there were not 18 Democrats running. The outcome would be different.
As for Bernie Sanders and the other two who ran, the media as well as everyone else ruled them out before they even began. None of those 4 were expected receive large crowds and large donations. Yet one did.
Hillary already was crowned before she even entered the race.
Had Bernie been given as much publicity as Hillary in the beginning of his campaign HE would clearly be the winner now with a lot more votes than the Queen. (Remember, it was all the publicity that Trump got that put him over the top. No one expected that.)
As for Bernie Sanders and the other two who ran, the media as well as everyone else ruled them out before they even began. None of those 4 were expected receive large crowds and large donations. Yet one did.
Hillary already was crowned before she even entered the race.
Had Bernie been given as much publicity as Hillary in the beginning of his campaign HE would clearly be the winner now with a lot more votes than the Queen. (Remember, it was all the publicity that Trump got that put him over the top. No one expected that.)
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You say that Hillary used contrast. Did you hear any precise foreign policy from her about the plethora of issues we face today? Contrast indeed. It was vacuous and almost a Saturday Night Live monologue. And if not for the teleprompter she'd be a deer in the headlights. You have definitely availed yourself of the Hillary Cool Aid.
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Am I the only person visualizing Mo Dowd as a character in a 19th century novel foolishly trying to add some depth to the one dimensional rogue? In this case finding Trump as "playful"...
You've got it all wrong, Maureen. The Clinton Camp has finally realized that a winning strategy doesn't involve making Hillary more likeable... It only involves having her point to her opponent and say: "look at that guy. This is your other option". And, she can quote actual things he has said without having to exaggerate, take them out of context, or say anything untrue.
You do realize that Hillary not facing the extremely likeable Barack Obama (or Bernie Sanders) this time?
Nope. She's facing that dangerously divisive con artist who likes to slap his name on everything and do anything to meet his goals - even prey on financially struggling but decent folks with his scheme: Trump U.
Surely someone as literary as you has heard of "putting lipstick on a pig?". Your propaganda is more 21st century than what Drumpf's ideological inspirations used, but it's not going to work.
You've got it all wrong, Maureen. The Clinton Camp has finally realized that a winning strategy doesn't involve making Hillary more likeable... It only involves having her point to her opponent and say: "look at that guy. This is your other option". And, she can quote actual things he has said without having to exaggerate, take them out of context, or say anything untrue.
You do realize that Hillary not facing the extremely likeable Barack Obama (or Bernie Sanders) this time?
Nope. She's facing that dangerously divisive con artist who likes to slap his name on everything and do anything to meet his goals - even prey on financially struggling but decent folks with his scheme: Trump U.
Surely someone as literary as you has heard of "putting lipstick on a pig?". Your propaganda is more 21st century than what Drumpf's ideological inspirations used, but it's not going to work.
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I largely agree with you that it's darn near impossible to be more unlikable than Trump. Christie is the only one that comes close. But at some point, no matter how negative the campaign gets, HRC has to present something better than "at least I'm not Trump." A candidate has to have a message of their own, something to vote FOR.
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"Nope. She's facing that dangerously divisive con artist who likes to slap his name on everything and do anything to meet his goals - even prey on financially struggling but decent folks with his scheme: Trump U."
All true, but does any of that make Hillary, a divisive con artist and pathological liar in her own right, a better candidate?
All true, but does any of that make Hillary, a divisive con artist and pathological liar in her own right, a better candidate?
We have been lucky enough to have an "elegant" President since 2008.
When are we going to have another one ?
Do we deserve one ?
When are we going to have another one ?
Do we deserve one ?
Perhaps I'll be the first to say that it's time to let Hillary Clinton's vote for the Iraq War go. It's not important today; it's over. The larger question is why did President George W. Bush beg for the Senate's permission to invade a country that promised no threat to America. Oh, I see: W's not on the ballot, but Mrs. Clinton is; that makes her vote, one of 29 Democrat "yeas" in the Senate, tantamount to an "unbreakable curse"?
The Madame Secretary has said she made a mistake. The Senate's vote was 77-23 (48 Republicans) for the war; 215 Republicans in the House contributed to the 297-133 lower chamber vote. Mrs. Clinton had a lot of company. Why should she pay for the sins of W. and his vice-president? They lied to us.
In 2008, Barack Obama convinced doubters that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright didn't speak for him. Six years earlier, Mrs. Clinton was swept up in the thirsty tide for war. Yes, she's a hawk; was then, is now. Consider Donald Trump; what he's for today he'll be against tomorrow. Her email briar patch pales in comparison with the throbbing instability of who Donald Trump was, is, and always will be.
Keep in mind two things: the nuclear codes and the Supreme Court. They're all that matters in this election.
The Madame Secretary has said she made a mistake. The Senate's vote was 77-23 (48 Republicans) for the war; 215 Republicans in the House contributed to the 297-133 lower chamber vote. Mrs. Clinton had a lot of company. Why should she pay for the sins of W. and his vice-president? They lied to us.
In 2008, Barack Obama convinced doubters that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright didn't speak for him. Six years earlier, Mrs. Clinton was swept up in the thirsty tide for war. Yes, she's a hawk; was then, is now. Consider Donald Trump; what he's for today he'll be against tomorrow. Her email briar patch pales in comparison with the throbbing instability of who Donald Trump was, is, and always will be.
Keep in mind two things: the nuclear codes and the Supreme Court. They're all that matters in this election.
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Most of us would not get stuck on Trump tweeting "judgement." What we can't see past is his inability to use judgment.
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Judgement and judgment are both correct. I don't like judgment and much prefer judgement but both convey the same exact meaning and both are correct. Ms. Dowd predictably and snidely disagrees with me (and the dictionary). This is why she can't tolerate Hillary (or even Bill, and he's a man). She prefers the trivialities of the NYTimes style guide to the actual substance of what it means to have good judgement.
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Wow. Hillary Clinton ripped Trump a new one And or course
Trump in response proved her point.
so of course Dowd attacks HIllary clinton Another Sunday
in DowdWorld.
pathetic
pay no attention to Trump's blatant racism. nothing to see here,
move on.
Dowd has been writing the same column for 25 years.
Time for her to retire and answer her true calling-souring milk
Trump in response proved her point.
so of course Dowd attacks HIllary clinton Another Sunday
in DowdWorld.
pathetic
pay no attention to Trump's blatant racism. nothing to see here,
move on.
Dowd has been writing the same column for 25 years.
Time for her to retire and answer her true calling-souring milk
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I believe Jefferson won the 1800 election, so we can save "you're a Hermaphrodite" as an effective debate line. It's not Trump's style though, too intellectual, maybe Hillary can use it.
"As usual with Hillary, she clearly feels the only problem was that people found out. It undercuts her claims that Trump is reckless when she can’t fathom how reckless she was."
You have absolutely no way to 'prove' how Hillary Clinton 'fears' about " being found out...when she can't fathom how reckless she was" nor do you prove any recklessness by her or by other Sec States before her like Colin Powell.
In your begrudgingly tiresome narrative about Hillary Clinton, you at least gave her a little respect for a brilliant speech but fall back to the same old rant of ten years running and no proof about your claims.
You have absolutely no way to 'prove' how Hillary Clinton 'fears' about " being found out...when she can't fathom how reckless she was" nor do you prove any recklessness by her or by other Sec States before her like Colin Powell.
In your begrudgingly tiresome narrative about Hillary Clinton, you at least gave her a little respect for a brilliant speech but fall back to the same old rant of ten years running and no proof about your claims.
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Hillary was quoted by friends that she was worried about FOIA lawsuits.
What she didn't admit to most people was her graft conspiracy that earned her a hundred million dollars and the huge slush funds in her ''charities.'' She has never thought that any law should apply to her. Hmm, no wonder Mr. Obama named her to a post.
What she didn't admit to most people was her graft conspiracy that earned her a hundred million dollars and the huge slush funds in her ''charities.'' She has never thought that any law should apply to her. Hmm, no wonder Mr. Obama named her to a post.
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I continue to be amazed that the NYT allows Ms. Dowd to settle her personal grudge against Hillary by attacking her unfairly week after week while giving Trump a complete pass. Once again, Ms. Dowd skewers Clinton but goes into stenographer mode with Trump (simply transcribing his self-serving quotes without comment).
It is really troubling how Trump has co-opted so many journalists. There have been reports that he allows them to use his discount to be designer clothes (Tamron Hall). He threatens others (Roger Ailes). He bribes and threatens to get favorable coverage.
It is really troubling how Trump has co-opted so many journalists. There have been reports that he allows them to use his discount to be designer clothes (Tamron Hall). He threatens others (Roger Ailes). He bribes and threatens to get favorable coverage.
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Anthony Weiner and Donald Trump, two unparalleled narcissists, who share an apparently similar anatomical fixation, tweeting about each other, somehow seems fitting in this "mother of the surreal" campaign.
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Ms. Dowd makes an inane point about Trump’s spelling by pointing out, “Or, as Trump spells it in his tweets, “judgement.”
Maybe, she should have stuck to making more relevant points about his judgment because later in her column, she delivers this karmic typo, “Weiner tweated immediately…”
People in glass houses… but I digress. In the midst of her nitpicking, Ms. Dowd actually manages to praise Hillary Clinton, “She made a really good speech in San Diego.”
Wonders will never cease – maybe Hillary might actually pull it off and send Donald Trump into retirement? In the interim, Ms. Dowd, remember we are “stronger together.”
Maybe, she should have stuck to making more relevant points about his judgment because later in her column, she delivers this karmic typo, “Weiner tweated immediately…”
People in glass houses… but I digress. In the midst of her nitpicking, Ms. Dowd actually manages to praise Hillary Clinton, “She made a really good speech in San Diego.”
Wonders will never cease – maybe Hillary might actually pull it off and send Donald Trump into retirement? In the interim, Ms. Dowd, remember we are “stronger together.”
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“I know Anthony Weiner. I don’t want him knowing anything. And I never, ever want him to tweet me.”
You gotta admit that is a statement you can't deny.
You gotta admit that is a statement you can't deny.
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Only if, like Trump, you can't measure up.
Hermaphrodite is an organism having reproductive organs of both sexes.John Adams as a hermaphrodite would be today's Dem presidential nominee.Trump is a massively flawed candidate.But what will it take for Hillary's supporters to realize she is even more flawed?Will it take a federal indictment and trial?Seeing Hillary posing with corrupt Maxine Waters is laughable.Sally Field has about as much political credibility as a potted plant.Will this be the first presidential election where neither candidate ever discusses policy as each hurls only insults at the other until election day?Is it too late to add a third voting option of "none of the above"?
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We get it for the thousandth time: you absolutely hate Hillary and think Trump is kind of a cool "tart-tongued"guy. A real man. Forget that he calls women pigs and dogs and is dumb as a rock in his knowledge of government. Oh, and also an unabashed racist. Vote for him already and find something new to write about if you possibly can.
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