"The Donald" is an expert marketer who thrives on fleecing the gullible and threatening to sue anyone who dares question either his tactics or his motives. Just as he lashed out at the press for daring to question why the money he supposedly raised in Jan and Feb. wasn't delivered to them until June after the inquiries were raised, so he attacks the students he defrauded. At the very least, the school was guilty of employing bait and switch tactics, promising the involvement of "the Donald" whose interest in the school was minimal unless it was as a cash machine. He preyed on the most vulnerable offering them false hopes and leaving them with large credit card debts they will have difficulty repaying. This bait and switch tactic is how he has run his whole campaign but people want to believe that he can perform miracles even if the miracles he promises to perform change every day.
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As we approach the milestone of 2,500 comments, most of them scathing, I momentarily felt compassion for this very, very sick man. I mean, after all, he is a human being.
But then the big one kicked in: Mr. Trump is running (for all he’s worth -- yes, fertile ground for jokes) for the office of President of the United States , and with the impassioned support of millions of sadly disillusioned people.
Let’s go for 5,000 comments.
But then the big one kicked in: Mr. Trump is running (for all he’s worth -- yes, fertile ground for jokes) for the office of President of the United States , and with the impassioned support of millions of sadly disillusioned people.
Let’s go for 5,000 comments.
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Trump U is very similar to the for profit education industry. Have slick sales people make HUGE promises to vulnerable, poorly educated people and then fail to deliver. It is no surprise that the GOP is in bed with these for profit companies just as they are with Mr Trump. After all, as the GOP believes, anyone who will fall for their "trickle down" promise that they make to justify HUGE tax cuts for the wealthy will believe just about anything.
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Trump is running scared. How do I know? His so-called video of "satisfied students" contains no such thing. They have close personal or business ties with Trump. When the response is itself a fraud, one knows.
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Why does it take so long for America to realize what a miscreant D. Trump is?
One reason is that the press used his notoriety and his stupid remarks to bring viewers to their stations, to purchase their newspapers, and to sell advertising based on their "increased" numbers. So while they certainly weren't "supporting" him, they certainly were "supporting" themselves. They became part of the hype.
Now they will dig, and report, all the dirt they have on Trump to insure that he is brought down, as he should be, and we all will love every minute of that.
I always thought that America was better than all this...but maybe not. And the Hillary campaign is correct that Democrats cannot and must not be complacent.
But Trump's ignorance and antics will be his own undoing, causing the electorate be very afraid indeed. Don't want to wish the time away, but the day after Election Day will be welcome.
One reason is that the press used his notoriety and his stupid remarks to bring viewers to their stations, to purchase their newspapers, and to sell advertising based on their "increased" numbers. So while they certainly weren't "supporting" him, they certainly were "supporting" themselves. They became part of the hype.
Now they will dig, and report, all the dirt they have on Trump to insure that he is brought down, as he should be, and we all will love every minute of that.
I always thought that America was better than all this...but maybe not. And the Hillary campaign is correct that Democrats cannot and must not be complacent.
But Trump's ignorance and antics will be his own undoing, causing the electorate be very afraid indeed. Don't want to wish the time away, but the day after Election Day will be welcome.
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Sickening to take advantage of people through high pressure sales.
One more reason not to support Donald Trump for president.
One more reason not to support Donald Trump for president.
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Why would a 'real' multibillionaire get involved in a scheme like this - just by investing his billions in a conservative risk-lite fund would generate an income which would massively dwarf anything he could generate with a scam like this and then there are the litigation and reputational risks ... Notwithstanding the outcome of this litigation this is evidence enough that either he has shockingly bad judgement or is a consummate liar both of which should immediately disqualify him from any public office.
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I wish a reporter would ask him that question.
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Hillary does have shockingly bad judgement and is a consummate liar. Actually, maybe her judgement isn't bad as much as it is used to reward bad actors who have contributed to the Clinton Foundation.
You think Trump U is a scandal? Try the Clinton Foundation.
Picking either candidate on some sort of holier-than-thou moral high ground is a stretch.
You think Trump U is a scandal? Try the Clinton Foundation.
Picking either candidate on some sort of holier-than-thou moral high ground is a stretch.
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This is a great point. Any reporter who asked it would be sure to be accused of being a "hater of Donald Trump."
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The irony is thick with this story: Donald Trump high pressure businessman, primarily a marketing specialist, creates a University clearly as a business venture. It markets its expertise in how to market real estate transactions. Members of the public are then subject to the marketing expertise of the Trump organization in order to get them to pay exorbitant fees for a product with questionable value. And then the people who signed up for these marketing courses complain that they fell for an overly aggressive marketing ploy. But just what did they think Trump University was established for in the first place? Trump clearly did not do this as a public service, or out of an evangical need to promote real estate marketing for the benefit of mankind. He did it for one purpose, which is to make money. And maybe to further stroke his ego.
The moral in dealing with Donald Trump the candidate, and the businessman is an old one: BUYER BEWARE!
The moral in dealing with Donald Trump the candidate, and the businessman is an old one: BUYER BEWARE!
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The only way I can see someone supporting Trump as legitimate POTUS material is if they have an absolute distrust and anger at the U.S. government. Which isn't a stretch considering how many people lost their jobs during the housing bubble of '07 and how much government failed to help folks afterwards. Factor in two failed wars, trillions in misspent taxpayer dollars, a do-nothing Congress, and a more and more apparent need for the government to protect the 1%... I don't blame people for wanting to send in Trump to blow up the system.
Do I think Trump is the solution? No. Do I think sending him to the White House is a very short-sighted decision? Yes. But, I understand it.
Do I think Trump is the solution? No. Do I think sending him to the White House is a very short-sighted decision? Yes. But, I understand it.
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Really? That's like thinking that the answer to your home repair problems is to bomb it and infest it with rats.
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Surely, Donald Trump, ascribes to the P.T. Barnum philosophy that "there's a sucker born every minute". How on earth is it possible that there are a sufficient number of intellectually challenged Americans of voting age, so gullible to believe that Trump has the ability to be the leader of the free world? The proposition is quite scary!
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Donald Trump: President of the United States and Commander in Fleece. It's got a catchy ring to it.
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Excellent! "Commander in Fleece." I like it.
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If Trump needed to have his name on a university so urgently, there are two recently closed colleges - Burlington College (VT) and Dowling College (NY) which likely would have honored him had he secured their futures.
The worst thing about Trump "University" is the practice of preying on financially struggling people, even encouraging them to go deeply into debt. Trump had already made a fortune selling real estate to wealthy people plus inherited his father's company. Was that not enough? Is it really necessary to target the average person (to be fair they should have done their due diligence)? I don't want a President who makes enriches himself on the back of his constituents.
The worst thing about Trump "University" is the practice of preying on financially struggling people, even encouraging them to go deeply into debt. Trump had already made a fortune selling real estate to wealthy people plus inherited his father's company. Was that not enough? Is it really necessary to target the average person (to be fair they should have done their due diligence)? I don't want a President who makes enriches himself on the back of his constituents.
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Just look at the byline. Discredited “advocacy” journalist Michael Barbaro is at it again. However, our intrepid millennial appears to have overlooked several salient facts that would place his low rent hit job in context…
Plaintiff’s key witness Ronald Schnackenberg is disgruntled former employee of the Trump Organization who then went to work for #NeverTrump fanatic Glenn Beck...
Judge Gonzalo Curiel is a La Raza associate...
The attorney firm leading the lawsuit against Trump has paid Bill and Hillary Clinton $675,000 for “speeches”...
Judge Curiel “accidentally” released court records which he had to immediately reseal. New York Times uses the documents for its hit piece anyway...
If there is any evidence of “fraud” in this story, it is that an “Ivy League” University billed Mr. Barbaro’s parents hundreds of thousands in “tuition” for what he now tries to pass off as an “education.”
Plaintiff’s key witness Ronald Schnackenberg is disgruntled former employee of the Trump Organization who then went to work for #NeverTrump fanatic Glenn Beck...
Judge Gonzalo Curiel is a La Raza associate...
The attorney firm leading the lawsuit against Trump has paid Bill and Hillary Clinton $675,000 for “speeches”...
Judge Curiel “accidentally” released court records which he had to immediately reseal. New York Times uses the documents for its hit piece anyway...
If there is any evidence of “fraud” in this story, it is that an “Ivy League” University billed Mr. Barbaro’s parents hundreds of thousands in “tuition” for what he now tries to pass off as an “education.”
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It appears REPUBLICAN Attorney Generals in Texas and Florida initiated investigations into Trump University based upon complaints filed but those investigations were canceled due to "lack of evidence". It might have also have helped that Trump gave $25,000 + to the reelection campaigns of both Attorney Generals...where there's smoke there's sure to be fire.
And why won't you release your tax returns Mr. Trump? Did you pay a lot
less tax percentage wise than the rest of us? Did you pay your fair share? Are you cash starved because your business empire is failing and you're close to bankruptcy? Did you use questionable and possibly illegal tax scams to
avoid rightful and proper taxes due? If you really want to be President Mr. Trump show us the tax returns or drop out of the race. The American voter has a right to know how much money you made, how much taxes you paid and what kind of financial shape your business empire is in. The financial shape of your business empire gives us an idea of how you would manage the United States of America. We sure don't want you to become President and bankrupt America.
And why won't you release your tax returns Mr. Trump? Did you pay a lot
less tax percentage wise than the rest of us? Did you pay your fair share? Are you cash starved because your business empire is failing and you're close to bankruptcy? Did you use questionable and possibly illegal tax scams to
avoid rightful and proper taxes due? If you really want to be President Mr. Trump show us the tax returns or drop out of the race. The American voter has a right to know how much money you made, how much taxes you paid and what kind of financial shape your business empire is in. The financial shape of your business empire gives us an idea of how you would manage the United States of America. We sure don't want you to become President and bankrupt America.
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Trump is reported to have some connection with at least 32 offshore-registered companies as revealed in the Panama Papers. The media, for whatever reason, aren't reporting about this. That might explain why Trump is keeping his tax information secret from the voters.
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So how is this different from dozens of other 'for profit ' schools? For profit schools should not be allowed.
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Donald Trump, how he even gets so far up, is quite a surprise. Noone will be amused if the election is held in 3rd World Country, its no surprise, he could have won it in 2 hours, because people are not educated, but this is United States. People are way more educated in here, and they are falling for a guy who pretends to throw money at your face. Just look at Trump University, have you ever heard anyone getting a degree, it should be Ivy League right, but nope, it ain't anything, I am not even sure whether its accredited, isn't that a wake up call. Trump likes to belittle people telling others how he kicks butts. If he is that successful, he didn't need to crawl to Hong Kong and have two developers saving his butt. Not only he didn't appreciate the rescue, he ended up sueing them and lost. Trump likes to call people loser, but he himself, is no different.
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Enough already with the "pleurnichards" grousing that their degree from Trump U. did not provide them with success in the business world. It was up to them to monetize their diploma,and if they failed to do so, Mr. TRUMP should not be held responsible. Having completed my Ph.D at NYU in 1980, based on my monographic study, using primary sources, of counterterrorism in Algeria(1954-1962),I expected Committee would help me find a univ.position. Written recommendations were forthcoming, but no solid job offers.So, I had to make it on my own. Had a hunch that my adviser and colleagues thought I was too far right to merit any help from them. My question to Committee, which did not go down well was, "If you are not for French Algeria, does that mean you are against it?"Too radical a question for the ultra liberals at NYU. But "tant pis," ''can't be helped,' I told myself and became successful w/o any assistance from them. My advice to those who believe they have been "scammed:" Quit yer bellyaching! Donald Trump is not your father and a degree is no guarantee of anything. Article is intended as a "faux fuyant," to distract voters from HRC's skullduggery,carried out when she was a US Senator and then Sec. of State. DT's indiscretions occurred when he was a private citizen.
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Donald is that you?
Newsflash Einstein, Trump university wasn't an actual university, there were no degrees and no actual education in anything.
Newsflash Einstein, Trump university wasn't an actual university, there were no degrees and no actual education in anything.
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Wonder why DT's business practices have been the subject of scrutiny from liberal media, whereas the same level of examination has not been given to the Clinton's "manigances" re their allegedly charitable foundation which has made them wealthy beyond their dreams. The Cuomo who is on CNN began a show by asking when the public would begin to punish DT. But what about the quid pro quos, the influence peddling that the Clintons have resorted to in order to enrich themselves? Where is the zeal of same, liberal news outlets to expose HRC and her sleaziness, her proximity to Wall Street donors, her refusal to release speeches for which she was paid big time. Silence from the left is deafening.Where was the criticism of NOW back in the 1990's when Slick Willie preyed on vulnerable women and his wife came to his defense by inventing myth of a right wing conspiracy? Enrollment at TRUMP U. hurt some, helped others. DT's misdeeds were committed as a private citizen, HRC's indiscretions mostly occurred while she was a public servant, first as US Senator and then as Sec. of State, a position she was notably unqualified to hold.Media and HRC's supporters tell us that experience translates into competence, that HRC would be ready on day one. One can spend decades in govt.and remain incompetent. Reminded of someone who spoke 5 languages fluently, but did not make sense in any of them. After Benghazi, does anyone want HRC to be answering that phone at 3 AM.?
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Sigh...for those lambasting Trump on this board. Save your breath (or rather, fingers). Your comments are not going to be read by the majority of his supporters. The average reading level of American adults seems to be at the 7th grade level. The average newspaper seems to be written at the 11th grade level, tolerable at the 9th grade level. Something like that. 1 in 4 Americans think the Sun revolves around us, and so on. It's quite hopeless, really. I should follow my own advice and save my breath. Hmm...
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It seems to me that these students at Trump U did learn how to make money from Donald Trump. The technique is to sue, sue and sue - and of course declare bankruptcy.
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Lie, Cheat and Steal. These are the kind of qualities about 40% of all Americans find Presidential. That is pretty scary.
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The public does not have all the EVIDENCE in the case against Trump Univ. That being said, as a real estate broker for some 25 years, like many, if not most, in my industry, I have spent thousands of dollars over the years to hear motivational speakers like Tony Robbins, Tom Hopkins, etc. etc. who espouse to know the art of selling. . . the art of 'closing the deal.'
No one forced my hand to write the check. I CHOSE to sign my name on the dotted line, to take what I liked from these seminars and leave the rest behind. My expectation was always that I might find one new approach to my business, one time intensive practice to avoid, a skill for better organization, a method to make time for family and play in a 24/7 on-call high stress business. . . often I'd gain motivation just to re-prioritize my efforts in a different direction. Sometimes, I'd take away nothing.
Isn't it always a risk when spending money that the value will not measure up. whether a $400 pair of shoes or a new car or a mutual fund or a five-star restaurant? The advertising hype often hooks me in. These are personal buying decisions we make every day in life as adults. Some are simply learning experiences to make better decisions in future.
By comparison, Trump is a private citizen who happens to be an entrepreneur. Hillary Clinton was a public official who happens to operate a scam charity, the Clinton Foundation which spends less than 10% on charitable works while having non-profit IRS status.
No one forced my hand to write the check. I CHOSE to sign my name on the dotted line, to take what I liked from these seminars and leave the rest behind. My expectation was always that I might find one new approach to my business, one time intensive practice to avoid, a skill for better organization, a method to make time for family and play in a 24/7 on-call high stress business. . . often I'd gain motivation just to re-prioritize my efforts in a different direction. Sometimes, I'd take away nothing.
Isn't it always a risk when spending money that the value will not measure up. whether a $400 pair of shoes or a new car or a mutual fund or a five-star restaurant? The advertising hype often hooks me in. These are personal buying decisions we make every day in life as adults. Some are simply learning experiences to make better decisions in future.
By comparison, Trump is a private citizen who happens to be an entrepreneur. Hillary Clinton was a public official who happens to operate a scam charity, the Clinton Foundation which spends less than 10% on charitable works while having non-profit IRS status.
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Your first three paragraphs were good, but can you explain with proof the "scam charity" in your fourth? The 10% figure has been discredited, especially as The Clinton Foundation is more than a charitable organization. Both Politifact and Factcheck trace a misinterpretation of that number on a 2015 Rush Limbaugh broadcast - it's actually the percentage that the foundation contributes to outside charities - most of their work is done in house. Charity watch gives it an "A" with only 12% used for administration and fund raising.
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If you bought $400 shoes and then found out they were cheap knock offs, wouldn't you be upset?
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RosanaDana-You're assuming most of the NYT readership assumes personal responsibility. No, there is always someone to blame when things don't work out. They want guarantees, Bernie-give aways, and safe spaces to run to if their feelings get hurt and --gasp!--if they see "Trump" written in chalk on their $60,000 a year college campus.
If people truly feel Trump U was a total scam, then what do we do about the millions of students who were encouraged to rack up 100K+ in student loans, taught by six-figure professors with no real-world experience, and can't find a job in this supposed 5% unemployment economy?
I missed the part of the article that said people had no choice but to enroll themselves at Trump U and were prohibited from walking away. High pressure? Of course! The guy who sells the Sham-Wow at the fair is high pressure. But we walk away. You can always walk away.
If people truly feel Trump U was a total scam, then what do we do about the millions of students who were encouraged to rack up 100K+ in student loans, taught by six-figure professors with no real-world experience, and can't find a job in this supposed 5% unemployment economy?
I missed the part of the article that said people had no choice but to enroll themselves at Trump U and were prohibited from walking away. High pressure? Of course! The guy who sells the Sham-Wow at the fair is high pressure. But we walk away. You can always walk away.
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Quick, someone elect this man president! One might imagine that the Republicans are really regretting going after Hillary's e-mails when their nominee is an honest-to-god fraudster, employing his little loan sharks to scam the elderly into maxing out their credit cards to buy his worthless real estate courses taught by jewelers!
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Why all these entirely democratic commenters say "fraud" even before the verdict? Yes, why do we need the hearings at all - the commenters here already know everything.
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Why are people shocked about the Trump candidacy? I'll tell you what would be shocking: an intelligent, well-spoken, far-sighted individual winning either party's nomination. I'll faint if that ever happens but it's not going to.
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Not sure whey y'all so worked up. This fellow isn't going to be president. There are lots of bad guys in this world. This one just happens to be on prime time. Sit back. Get a hot chocolate. Watch the spectacle. Laugh a little. Live.
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And each attendee of Lawrence university will be given the exclusive right to collect tolls on the Brooklyn bridge, and enact and collect a 5% percent fare tax on all subway riders.
Early signees will also be show how to collect breath and sunlight fees.
Because of the delicate and exclusive nature of my offer I can only accept cash in non sequential numbered bills.
Early signees will also be show how to collect breath and sunlight fees.
Because of the delicate and exclusive nature of my offer I can only accept cash in non sequential numbered bills.
I know an elderly lady who had some savings who put much of it into Trump U. The program smelled like a fraud but I could not convince her. She has passed away. Given solid information like this she might have saved thousands of dollars.
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Much as I dislike Trump, I think his mere presence on the scene drives home an important point: brains are irrelevant to success in business. What is required instead are sociopathic habits of ruthlessness, corruption, contempt for others and complete amorality.
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It depends on how you define success. One of the most successful people I ever knew was also a decent human being who treated his employees well.
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Yes, and as a capitalist society we revere these abominable qualities. Which is why I prefer socialism!
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Free market capitalism the best tool for the morally decrepit. The likes of Donald Trump and the Koch brothers revel in it and are generously rewarded for exploiting others.
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Its interesting how all the republicans are whining over all the scrutiny over Trump U and complaining how HRC was never scrutinized this way. I guess the selective amnesia is part and partial of being a republican. HRC was put way more under scrutiny(some of it unnecessary, some of it political) through out her life and all they could come up with is some half a dozen lame excuses. Just look at the number of house hearings on Benghazi.
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Trump: Many people don´t think the birth certificate is authentic
CNN : But the state of Hawaii has endorsed its authenticity
Trump: It doesn´t matter. Many people don´t think the birth certificate is authentic
CNN: Who? Name one
Trump: I don´t give names
Remember?
CNN : But the state of Hawaii has endorsed its authenticity
Trump: It doesn´t matter. Many people don´t think the birth certificate is authentic
CNN: Who? Name one
Trump: I don´t give names
Remember?
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@John Townsend,
And who started this birther thing?
Remember?
And who started this birther thing?
Remember?
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Don the Con. A one-trick pony. Only the scale changes.
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Trump will twist others' negative opinions into contrived, dishonest words. When others' opinions speak highly of Trump and his world, they speak factually. Those who speak honestly, but disapprovingly or critical are labeled as dishonest and uninformed.
The more one learns about Trump, the more one dislikes.
The more one learns about Trump, the more one dislikes.
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I have been perusing the comments on TrumpUgate and I believe most of them are missing the point. Yes, Trump taking advantage of the poor, the elderly and the uneducated, all of whom feel they are in a hopeless situation and desperately seeking relief, is depraved. Words fail our emotions here. And it is also true that perhaps they should have known better: caveat emptor. But do not lose sight of the fact that the sales tactic called "bait and switch" is illegal. If I sell you a Cadillac without telling you there is a Yugo engine in it, I could go to jail - and not tennis court jail for 3 months. Don't drop the soap prison for 5-10 years. Volkswagen was just smacked around hard for selling cars with tampered odometers. The entire mortgage crisis (and the resulting Great Recession) revolved around subprime borrowers who were not told that that $500/month payment would balloon to $2500/month after 2 years. And conspiring with others to defraud is also a felony. Just ask the late John Gotti (if you could).
This one isn't going away for DJT, not merely because what he did was the act of a scumbag (ABC and the NYT are heroes in my book, Donald), it is also a potential crime.
This one isn't going away for DJT, not merely because what he did was the act of a scumbag (ABC and the NYT are heroes in my book, Donald), it is also a potential crime.
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Wait--which VW executive is in jail for the emissions testing scandal? (Estimates have been made of how many people DIED as a result of the increased air pollution). Which for-profit university hoodlum has been put away? How about Gov Christie's gulag of for-profit prisons and halfway houses--a nightmare straight out of Dickens? No charges. Elizabeth Holmes takes thousands of inaccurate blood samples as part of her gigantic hoax, putting pubic health in jeopardy. They are saying if the scandal becomes much MORE outrageous, they may take the unprecedented step of banning her from the blood testing racket for TWO YEARS. Presumably, after that, she's free to return to her larceny.
And so it goes. Business vermin are not subject to the laws governing the rest of us. That's a major part of the problem here.
And so it goes. Business vermin are not subject to the laws governing the rest of us. That's a major part of the problem here.
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Thanks, they get away all the time or they pay a fine which is a drop in the bucket.
It appears that for the first time in history we're going to have an election for President between two blatant, scheming, chronic abusers of law, order, justice and decency. What a disgrace, that we seem to be able to produce no better candidates for the one who is supposed to represent all that is right and good about America.
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This pig in a poke sale will haunt Trump. His dishonesty and lack of moral standards
disqualify him from being president.
Trump also proved how racist he is by attacking the Mexican origin of judge Curiel
who ordered documents unsealed about his fraudulent university. Despite all the evidence against Trump; his Sheep's are steadily moving towards the cliff.
disqualify him from being president.
Trump also proved how racist he is by attacking the Mexican origin of judge Curiel
who ordered documents unsealed about his fraudulent university. Despite all the evidence against Trump; his Sheep's are steadily moving towards the cliff.
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So. now the Judge Curiel reseals some documents in the case. He said he “mistakenly” listed some of the documents to be released in full, when they should have been edited to delete personal information.
How will this play out now? What will happen next? Will there be questions about how - or why - this "mistake" happened?
How will this play out now? What will happen next? Will there be questions about how - or why - this "mistake" happened?
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Trump has spent his life suing, defrauding, and bankrupting people to take from others.
Trump University is just the latest example of a huge con of people who had the misfortune to trust his worthless promises.
Trump wants to bring his biggest con yet to the White House.
He is suggesting an outrageously irresponsible $10 trillion tax cut that goes disproportionately to the wealthy, at the same time he is floating the idea of giving investors a haircut on US Treasury obligations - less than 100 cents on the dollar.
That is Trump's business - taking his money out before he declares bankruptcy at the expense of hapless investors.
I read one of Trump's supporters say he endorses Trump's plan.
Another sucker born every second.
The only one's who would benefit from that are people like Trump.
Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and had assets taken all around the world when it was sued by owners of the debt.
Capital flight and rampant inflation from currency depreciation wiped out the life savings of millions of Argentinians.
It took Argentina 15 years to regain access to global capital markets for finance.
Also you could say goodbye to Social Security and Medicare. The benefits would be worthless.
But the wealthy would have their trillions in tax cuts and plenty of time to move liquid assets to euros and yen and live like kings in America since the dollar would be worthless.
Sad there are people that think Donald is out for them instead of only himself.
Trump University is just the latest example of a huge con of people who had the misfortune to trust his worthless promises.
Trump wants to bring his biggest con yet to the White House.
He is suggesting an outrageously irresponsible $10 trillion tax cut that goes disproportionately to the wealthy, at the same time he is floating the idea of giving investors a haircut on US Treasury obligations - less than 100 cents on the dollar.
That is Trump's business - taking his money out before he declares bankruptcy at the expense of hapless investors.
I read one of Trump's supporters say he endorses Trump's plan.
Another sucker born every second.
The only one's who would benefit from that are people like Trump.
Argentina defaulted on its sovereign debt and had assets taken all around the world when it was sued by owners of the debt.
Capital flight and rampant inflation from currency depreciation wiped out the life savings of millions of Argentinians.
It took Argentina 15 years to regain access to global capital markets for finance.
Also you could say goodbye to Social Security and Medicare. The benefits would be worthless.
But the wealthy would have their trillions in tax cuts and plenty of time to move liquid assets to euros and yen and live like kings in America since the dollar would be worthless.
Sad there are people that think Donald is out for them instead of only himself.
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Argentina did not "have assets taken all around the world" after it defaulted.
To be a University requires accreditation; Trump never attempted to obtain the right to call his real estate training such accreditation....deceptive advertising on its face and ignorance of the rules is no defense with a legal team such as his.
But more importantly, why would a supposedly hugely successful real estate person waste his time selling real estate seminars. Why would one educate thousands of competitors with the tricks of the trade. Unless Trump trained all of his instructors how would they know how to train in his way of doing real estate deals. Seems to me to be fraud once again when he claims to personally have picked the experts training folks at his school, which implies he taught them his tricks.
But more importantly, why would a supposedly hugely successful real estate person waste his time selling real estate seminars. Why would one educate thousands of competitors with the tricks of the trade. Unless Trump trained all of his instructors how would they know how to train in his way of doing real estate deals. Seems to me to be fraud once again when he claims to personally have picked the experts training folks at his school, which implies he taught them his tricks.
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W. Nesbitt - True and the documents clearly explain how to get "students" to max out credit cards and take other significant financial risks. revealing the unethical actions of so-called "instructors". Trump was warned not to call this business a university. He ignored thise warnings and either signed off on documents which he understood would dupe people or he never paid attention to the content. Either action makes him unworthy of being POTUS.
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Trump doesn't have any tricks. Never did. Who says things like I'm really, really rich or I'm really, really smart? Who talks like that? Those of us who have spent our lives growing up in the N.Y. metro area know that Trump was always a bag of hot air. His claim to fame is a skating rink. We all know he'll never be President, what remains to be seen is if anyone will ever do business with him again, and will his wife leave him after realizing that she's married to a misogynistic, racist, bigot.
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Preying on peoples fears to get enrich himself? Looking to the population of uneducated and down on their luck? Promising people that they can be just as rich as him? Conceiving people that only he knows the secret to get ahead ("Trust me", "Believe me")?
Trump is using the same approach to get elected that he used to sell his university courses. Tell them what they need to hear to make them believe that tomorrow will be better. Then when it don't work out and you end up in court call the judge a Mexican.
Trump is using the same approach to get elected that he used to sell his university courses. Tell them what they need to hear to make them believe that tomorrow will be better. Then when it don't work out and you end up in court call the judge a Mexican.
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Yeah, this is who I want to have possession of the nuclear codes. A birther with Grand Wizard endorsement who wants to ban Muslim-American soldiers from re-entering the country after their travels abroad.
Clinton and Sanders could gleefully put all of their e-mails that they ever wrote on the next shuttle to the furthest planet and both still would be infinitely more qualified to be POTUS.
Thanks, GOP. You really know how to phone it in.
Clinton and Sanders could gleefully put all of their e-mails that they ever wrote on the next shuttle to the furthest planet and both still would be infinitely more qualified to be POTUS.
Thanks, GOP. You really know how to phone it in.
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If he were a tenth as rich as he claims he wouldn't have done this. He's a money grubbing, desperate guy who does anything to support his lifestyle of overspending and chintz.
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Kinda like how a certain former Secretary of State worth $150mm would stoop so low as to prostitute herself out to Wall St bankers for $225,000 speeches?
Or is that not "money-grubbing."
Or is that not "money-grubbing."
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Unrepentant con artist. Failure as a human being.
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How much money did Mr. Trump make on this slimy scam? How much on the steaks? the ties? How much does he make for his reality TV appearances? Is all this the work of a successful multibillionaire real estate developer? Or is it the work of a has been trying to scrounge a few bucks any way that he can?
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This has been known for some time. It's hardly new. There are some much more interesting tales to come, but who will be interested? His supporters could care less. I'm sure Mitch McConnell will be simply aghast and Paul Ryan will throw his arms in the air in complete shock. Ben Carson- "But Donald, why didn't you tell me?" And Sarah, "Oh Donald, I'm so ashamed."
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This is not a political witch-hunt aimed at Trump since the wheels were turning on this way before he threw his hat in the ring last June. This may be a shady isolated incident in his life-path or it could be the tip of the ice-berg as his dealings come under closer scrutiny. From all that's gathered to this point it doesn't look good but Trump has a way through his talented double talk to make this issue die. Or can he ?
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What you have to understand is that to many people, his supporters in particular, this is not a scandal. They honestly don't see anything wrong in conning people out of their savings with phony promises, (as long as the victim wasn't them). Profit is its own justification. Heck, if such people weren't incensed about the Bush cabal making a tidy fortune from spreading unimaginable horror and destruction in Iraq, why would Trump U cause them any moral indignation?
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While each con-job is wrong both were and are products of slick brainwashes. This current one though will be able to be curtailed before it can have the lasting disastrous consequences that the first one did as the education of all Americans continues .
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Just read through 'Play book'. Students are referred to as buyers. Page 36/172..rank 'buyers' E1, over $35k liquid assets, E2 between 20k and 30k, E3 under 10k, E4 under $2k...don't count retirement funds. hmmm.
Page 38, See Sales Playbook, 20 minute One-on-One, look for 'buying signals'
Page 54, every attempt made so travel booking is done at lowest possible cost to Trump U
Page 97 on...the Sales Playbook ... hmm ... is this a school or a time share?
Page 111, Preview Sale Objections and Rebuttals.
In case you are wondering
Step 1, Find real motivators.
Step 2, Qualify students
Step 3, Get a pre-commitment
Step 4, Call to action
Step 5, Find real objections
'some people have been sold so much that their subconscious has become trained. Every time they have given a concern to a salesperson and the salesperson resolves it and puts pressure on them to commit, the more uncomfortable that makes them feel.'
'you loose power by answering irrelevant questions'
isolate to a single concern, close the sale.
Objection - I have to talk to my Spouse first ...
Objection - I just paid my credit cards off ...
Trump is using his playbook on us, the American People. If you hit him, he will hit you back. Last time I heard that was on the school yard in the 7th grade.
If you are still getting excuses - 'STOP!! It's my job to get you to the next level. You will never get ahead in life with excuses. Mr. Trump won't listen to excuses and neither will we."
Page 38, See Sales Playbook, 20 minute One-on-One, look for 'buying signals'
Page 54, every attempt made so travel booking is done at lowest possible cost to Trump U
Page 97 on...the Sales Playbook ... hmm ... is this a school or a time share?
Page 111, Preview Sale Objections and Rebuttals.
In case you are wondering
Step 1, Find real motivators.
Step 2, Qualify students
Step 3, Get a pre-commitment
Step 4, Call to action
Step 5, Find real objections
'some people have been sold so much that their subconscious has become trained. Every time they have given a concern to a salesperson and the salesperson resolves it and puts pressure on them to commit, the more uncomfortable that makes them feel.'
'you loose power by answering irrelevant questions'
isolate to a single concern, close the sale.
Objection - I have to talk to my Spouse first ...
Objection - I just paid my credit cards off ...
Trump is using his playbook on us, the American People. If you hit him, he will hit you back. Last time I heard that was on the school yard in the 7th grade.
If you are still getting excuses - 'STOP!! It's my job to get you to the next level. You will never get ahead in life with excuses. Mr. Trump won't listen to excuses and neither will we."
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Come November all good, decent Americans who believe our country is and will continue to be a great nation needs to send Donald J. Trump and the Republican Party a message. We have had just about all we can take of Trump's bully boy behavior. His supporters need to singled out with an overwhelming rejection of this demagogue.
Not even the paranoid Richard Nixon was this odious. Trump reeks from the horrid smell of democracy at its worse. Is there no shame by this man? Are his supporters so blinded and filled with hate they actually take joy in seeing such a gross figure as Trump become their president? What is wrong with these folks? They need help in more ways than just a job. They need psychological help. To be enamored with such a divisive figure as Trump begs the question: How low have you sunk to want such a jerk like Trump represent America to the world?
DD
Manhattan
Not even the paranoid Richard Nixon was this odious. Trump reeks from the horrid smell of democracy at its worse. Is there no shame by this man? Are his supporters so blinded and filled with hate they actually take joy in seeing such a gross figure as Trump become their president? What is wrong with these folks? They need help in more ways than just a job. They need psychological help. To be enamored with such a divisive figure as Trump begs the question: How low have you sunk to want such a jerk like Trump represent America to the world?
DD
Manhattan
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DD,,
Trump owns the media.
HE will be the story all summer and the media will flail and fail.
I think he will win with the help of a lot of democrats and African American voters.
Trump owns the media.
HE will be the story all summer and the media will flail and fail.
I think he will win with the help of a lot of democrats and African American voters.
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@Joe Paper
I think the bulk of the media has allowed itself to become seduced by Trump. With the help of many Dems and African Americans? Where are you getting such dreadful information? None of the people I know, including Dems and Blacks, would consider voting for this, this... creature. Ever.
6-1-16@10:25 pm
I think the bulk of the media has allowed itself to become seduced by Trump. With the help of many Dems and African Americans? Where are you getting such dreadful information? None of the people I know, including Dems and Blacks, would consider voting for this, this... creature. Ever.
6-1-16@10:25 pm
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Joe Paper - Are you trying to be funny? Trump will lose and a big part of that loss will be brought to him by women.
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These articles about the unworthiness of Donald Trump for president, while well written and of the highest quality, are about as consequential as a foot cramp. Trump could literally murder someone in front of the world and his supporters would love him for it.
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Like Obama supporters.
Remember that?
Remember that?
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Sure do! Millions of people getting together to support someone who said we all belong, that we all deserve a fair shot, and that we all can make the world a better place. It wasn't about building walls, it wasn't about winners and losers, and it certainly wasn't about inciting violence and sexism. Apples to oranges. I don't remember Obama ever saying at one of his rallies that he'd "like to punch him in the face", in reference to one of his protesters.
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@Joe Paper,
Now that's interesting. Supporters of Obama who'd cheer him on for murdering someone. Sounds like something one might have seen in the Coliseum in Rome, ridiculous and obscene. I gather this was before his first candidacy? I've never associated an Obama voter with a taste for depravity. The Obama voters I know leave the amorality and the perversions to the Trumps of this world.
6-1-16@10:46 pm
Now that's interesting. Supporters of Obama who'd cheer him on for murdering someone. Sounds like something one might have seen in the Coliseum in Rome, ridiculous and obscene. I gather this was before his first candidacy? I've never associated an Obama voter with a taste for depravity. The Obama voters I know leave the amorality and the perversions to the Trumps of this world.
6-1-16@10:46 pm
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I'm thinking that this an argument that liberal arts higher education wants to have.
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I would say the same thing about the public university I attended in Massachusetts. A fraud and a scheme. The government schools take your money too and you can't even get a minimum wage job afterwards.
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I got an education at my public university. In those days, that meant something more than just a work credential, and it still should--and often still does. An educated person is much more than the job he or she gets. But besides that, this idea that "there ARE no jobs, not even minimum wage!" and that that is somehow the university's fault (or that the school can change that by trying) is false. There are jobs, many of them minimum wage, that's true. But if you really can't find a minimum wage job where you are, you need to look somewhere else. Come south; there are plenty here. And bring your education with you; we need it here.
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The excerpt from the Trump University playbook is shocking. It reminds me of Mitt Romney's 47 percent comment, only far far worse. We're reading right here Trump's own playbook for manipulating us all. The curtain has been drawn back, and the mighty wizard who promised so much turns out to be a small money grubbing con man. Hammer him on this!
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Trump said it best - "I love the uneducated."
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This is the Times for the next 5 months. Every article about the general election will be about Trump's shenanigans. Full exposure. Good. Little or none about Clinton's shenanigans or those of the Democratic establishment. Cast Bernie's supporters as misogynists, anti-nationalists, loonies or worse. Rinse and repeat until the anointed one wins in November. If she loses, no problem. The scapegoats are already in place. Fine. But know that we are resigned to the fact that we will not vote for her.
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The NY Times has Clinton dragged through the mud and hung her out wet for years and especially this one. Obviously you don't read this paper on a daily basis. For a so-called "liberal" paper, their stories, columns, and editorials have been anything but pro Clinton. You just can't accept that Drumpf is a fraud. All those who had contracts with him know it.
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Really? The NYT has "been anything but pro Clinton"? I guess I was confused by the front page endorsement.
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Trump University reminds me of televangelism, or if you are so inclined, religion in general, in short, prey on the emotions of the vulnerable and weak, while instilling confidence and selling advice rooted in fiction... so if you have little education (as we all know Trump "loves the uneducated") and you are told enough times that gravity is an evil rumor invented by the Chinese, then why not just jump off a building, you'll be fine, Trump said so and the television kept repeating his words ad nauseam...
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Prosperity gospel.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/07/business/dealbook/court-to-hear-suit-a...
The above is a link to a article from the Times about law school graduate who sued the law school she went to because the school lied to her.
If a law school can gets these kind of complaint then I have to deduce getting complaints of this nature should be expected and therefore it is not newsworthy that people made these complaints about the school Trump started.
Why is this article in the paper.
Surely Trump has done a lot of good yet I never see an article in the paper telling us that.
Why is this.
There has to be a reason why only articles that criticize Trump gets into the paper but none that praise him.
You tell me the reason.
The above is a link to a article from the Times about law school graduate who sued the law school she went to because the school lied to her.
If a law school can gets these kind of complaint then I have to deduce getting complaints of this nature should be expected and therefore it is not newsworthy that people made these complaints about the school Trump started.
Why is this article in the paper.
Surely Trump has done a lot of good yet I never see an article in the paper telling us that.
Why is this.
There has to be a reason why only articles that criticize Trump gets into the paper but none that praise him.
You tell me the reason.
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Trump University. Koch Industries. Theranos. Blackwater. CDOs. Mortgage backed securities. Credit default swaps. Privatized prisons. This is the land of opportunity! Find a scam and ride it to Valhalla. Everyone else is doing it. (Except we poor suckers who still work for a living. )
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The saddest part of this Trump U fiasco isn't that students were defrauded or that the entire enterprise was a complete scam, notwithstanding that those are indeed terrible things. No, ladies and gentlemen, the REAL sadness here is that this scam will make no difference to the mind-dead people who will continue to support this charlatan. All "thinking" people have known for a very long time that Emperor Trump has no clothes but to his mindless followers NOTHING he says or does makes one bit of difference - on the contrary, they seem to become emboldened with every new lie and scandal. Such is life in 2016's America.
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The 'mind-dead' people? My doctor has a fine mind - a requirement of being a much-in-demand cardiologist?
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Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon--a fairly demanding career. If you want to tell me he has "a fine mind" I'd appreciate it, because I could use a laugh at this point.
Physicians are very often extremely conservative and therefore, not smart at all. Driven, perhaps, but that is altogether different.
The fact of the matter is that ALL significant achievement in science is the work of liberals. Republicans are not on the map. They are non-players in the scientific realm and therefore have nothing of value to say on the topic. Pick any scientist who has made a major contribution to his or her field. What are the odds that person is a Republican? I'll answer it for you: zero.
Physicians are very often extremely conservative and therefore, not smart at all. Driven, perhaps, but that is altogether different.
The fact of the matter is that ALL significant achievement in science is the work of liberals. Republicans are not on the map. They are non-players in the scientific realm and therefore have nothing of value to say on the topic. Pick any scientist who has made a major contribution to his or her field. What are the odds that person is a Republican? I'll answer it for you: zero.
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Does anyone really believe that Trump cares about anyone but himself? Everything he does for for him and about him - period. It is astonishing that American could be obtuse enough to actually believe anything he says. When you add this embarrassing and venal attempt of “education” to his sophmoric campaign driven by a moronic hysteria that is as embarrasssing to America as it ridiculous, what do you get? Really, ask yourself - what are you getting - the best and most qualified man to be the next POTUS? Really? Hilary is nothing but a Hobson’s choice at this point, but, I’d say she’s better than Trump by a long shot.
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This whole thing is like a self-help book which, for only $29.99, will let you in on the "secrets" of selling self-help books.
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I'll take 'crooked Hillary' over 'Diploma Mill Donald' even on Hillary's private email server. What a chump.
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@Colin Hester,
Yes, danger to National security against claims of some unsatisfied students.
Yes, danger to National security against claims of some unsatisfied students.
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I never had a Trump steak, so I can't say how they are. I do own, admittedly, more than one Trump tie. They are elegant in an understated and conservative way, as crazy as that sounds. I like them.
Trump University? LOL. Anyone even considering attending that alma mater must have sported a unique mixture of greed, celebrity worship, and moneyed stupidity. These people should have bought a few ties and then run away. And Trump should be in jail for this fraud, not running for the most important job on earth.
Trump University? LOL. Anyone even considering attending that alma mater must have sported a unique mixture of greed, celebrity worship, and moneyed stupidity. These people should have bought a few ties and then run away. And Trump should be in jail for this fraud, not running for the most important job on earth.
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I love the "0ther People's Money" technique. It's exactly what Trump is doing in soliciting big money donors for his general election campaign despite his claim to be worth $10 billion. And Sheldon Adelson, among others, is falling for it.
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"One sales manager for Trump University, Ronald Schnackenberg, recounted how he was reprimanded for not pushing a financially struggling couple hard enough to sign up for a $35,000 real estate class, despite his conclusion that it would endanger their economic future. He watched with disgust, he said, as a fellow Trump University salesman persuaded the couple to purchase the class anyway"
This describes exactly what has been going on at college campuses for the past 40+ years. Students having to take out huge amounts of student loans often co signed by their parents that stay with them for 15 years or more.
Professors ganged on by forcing students to buy books they had written for the courses they were teaching. Some would update their books for the next semesters course making the old one useless. This story is not going to do any damage to Trump because it's not really anything new.
I am looking for the next story on how Elizabeth Warren was involved in flipping foreclosed homes.
This describes exactly what has been going on at college campuses for the past 40+ years. Students having to take out huge amounts of student loans often co signed by their parents that stay with them for 15 years or more.
Professors ganged on by forcing students to buy books they had written for the courses they were teaching. Some would update their books for the next semesters course making the old one useless. This story is not going to do any damage to Trump because it's not really anything new.
I am looking for the next story on how Elizabeth Warren was involved in flipping foreclosed homes.
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"The refusal of Democrats and the American left to hear — or to grant some legitimacy to — the grievances of white America as it loses power and stature to ascendant minorities and to waves of immigrants from across the globe undergirds the Trump movement."
Uh, no.
Uh, no.
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Blatantly false comparison. Universities pressure no one to attend. Those who cannot afford college but take out huge loans to attend, freely choose, without external pressure, to take that upon themselves--presumably after weighing the consequences. Anyone can now easily research which degrees yield the highest earnings and which universities yield the best returns on investment. Those who bypass their state universities and choose elite schools, know what they're getting into and freely make the decision to take on greater debt, despite the fact that the majority of financially successful people have not attended "first-class" universities. Further research shows that a university degree is not essential to earning a solid middle-class income. Dental hygienists and med-techs earn around 60,000 per year. Another problem is that many students hope to have their cake and eat it too--choosing non-lucrative majors, in order to "follow their dreams and passions," but then whining when it's difficult to repay student loans. Perhaps the real problem is that high schools are not advising students to pragmatically consider how various choices in pursuit of higher studies could affect them economically. Parents need to be proactive and make sure students understand the consequences of their choices beyond high school, but to be able to do so, parents must become better informed.
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Today I went with the DAR to lay wreaths at the tombs of John Adams, John Quincy Adams and 4 signers of the Declaration of Independence. How far our country has come from these great and accomplished men is almost unbelievable to comprehend. We could all certainly hear them turning over in their graves today.
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They have been spinning for nearly 8 years, at least they have a chance of resting in peace in 6 months.
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Many of the complaints against Trump University are elder-abuse complaints. I take this very personally. My late father was the victim of a different group of sleazebags who preyed on elderly people. Luckily he did not lose a huge amount of money, but I will never forget how humiliated he felt when he realized that he had been lured into acting foolishly. I will never forgive those people--and Donald Trump is just like them.
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I suddenly recall why Donald Trump is attacking Judge Curiel. Mr. Trump used to be a good friend and mentee of the controversial lawyer, Roy Cohn, who once said to a client: "Don't tell me what the law is, just tell me who the judge is."
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Don Trump is unable to stand up to the rigors of candidate examination and ridicule. He has often reacted angrily, with the utmost intolerance for even minor criticism. I don't want him anywhere near the military and their nuclear codes.
I will most assuredly vote in November, and not for Trump.
Pertaining to the immediate subject matter. This story was important to show the illegitimacy of Trumps claims in the past and present. I simply won't believe him in the future.
I will most assuredly vote in November, and not for Trump.
Pertaining to the immediate subject matter. This story was important to show the illegitimacy of Trumps claims in the past and present. I simply won't believe him in the future.
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I meant 'and they only NOW know this, eh'?
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"He is a man of splendid abilities, but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks like rotten mackerel by moonlight."
-- John Randolph on Edward Livingston
-- John Randolph on Edward Livingston
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Trump changed his twitter handle (whatever that is) to "swindler Trump. He knowingly defrauded vulnerable people, let us not give him the key to the White House.
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What's the big deal? Hi pressure salesmanship is pure and time honored American business practice. He was in it to sell and selling using people's pyscholgoical needs is too routine to even yawn about. He will do for the country what he did for his business--do the best he can in an unscrupulous world, full of threats and uncertainty. Nothing but alarmism from the NY times and some overly sensitive shocked souls.
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All this aside... has anyone bothered to really ask Donald Trump what he plans to do to help the improve the everyday struggles facing middle class. I'm not clear on his strategy.
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How could you possibly not be clear? It's great. And Yuuuuugggge!
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Sounds to me very much similar to the Rich Dad scam that Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad University is pulling on other poor people.... and some want less regulation and oversight. They would eat us alive if they could.
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When will the criminal case against Trump be filed? Fraud is fraud. Do they wait until the end of a civil trial so the prosecution has enough ammunition??
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This is the candidate who promised he wouldn’t touch Social Security and Medicare, because working people earned it throughout their lives.
The same one who pressured/scammed working people to max out their credit cards and pour their life’s savings into his sinkhole of a “university.”
The same one who pressured/scammed working people to max out their credit cards and pour their life’s savings into his sinkhole of a “university.”
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Anyone who has to make money this way is a loser. Trump is a loser.
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When I came back this afternoon to reread the article and the comments, the pop-up ads were about refinancing school loans. LOL. But not really.
I never understood Hair Trump's appeal even when he was just The Donald. Maybe amiable but mostly a blowhard. Insulting if well-turned out.
But now more than the have and have nots or 1% vs the 99%, it seems like America is the take-advantage-of shysters and the victims. For some reason, the poor, less educated, students, children, elderly exist to be fleeced for profit. IMHO.
I never understood Hair Trump's appeal even when he was just The Donald. Maybe amiable but mostly a blowhard. Insulting if well-turned out.
But now more than the have and have nots or 1% vs the 99%, it seems like America is the take-advantage-of shysters and the victims. For some reason, the poor, less educated, students, children, elderly exist to be fleeced for profit. IMHO.
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This man, and his supporters are a true national embarrassment. I can only suggest this is the result of our declining educational system for which we are all responsible.
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Declining educational system and a 24 hour news cycle that favors sizzle over substance.
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Hey, what the heck....billionaires managed to get enough justices on the Supreme Court to render the 5 to 4 Citizen's United decision that allowed billionaires to buy congress and control our government's public policy ....so you say Trump cons working people out of their money....haha...do you really think Hillary Clinton and Bill are watching out for America's middle class or that Obama delivered on that promise of hope for all Americans...or do you see they served and continue to serve corporate and Wall Street's agenda to maximize profits...get real...vote Bernie Sanders if you care about economic opportunity, a true level playing field and "government of the people, by the people and for the people."
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The NYT is obviously trying its very best to make sure Trump does not become president, by feeding its readership an almost daily supply of anti-Trump info and anecdotes. This kind of reporting all too often leads to the undesired result.
The anti-Sanders/pro-Hillary bias of thye NYT also does not go un-noticed.
It does go to show, however, that the belief in the almost unlimited power of the MSM to determine public opinion is unfounded, which is certainly a good thing.
The anti-Sanders/pro-Hillary bias of thye NYT also does not go un-noticed.
It does go to show, however, that the belief in the almost unlimited power of the MSM to determine public opinion is unfounded, which is certainly a good thing.
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Shades of Bernard Madoff.
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Boiler room stuff. Big deal. Someone wants to be Trump in 90 days. "Give me 10 dollars and I will make you a rich person" Sales stuff. Over exaggeration usually Ok. Get rid jof pimples in 24 hours. Take it with a grain of salt.
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If he had sold this supposed "course" for $10, I'd agree with you. $35,000 and up? That's a whole different kettle of fish to shake your salt over!
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Trump Steaks could be kangaroo, but his supporters will eat it and order more.
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I don't feel sorry for the people who signed up for Trump University.
P.T. Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute"
Trump is a confidence man. Don't expect him to change his stripes. Trump University and the Trump resume are warning signs for the American voter. You have been warned. Now do as you wish.
P.T. Barnum: "There's a sucker born every minute"
Trump is a confidence man. Don't expect him to change his stripes. Trump University and the Trump resume are warning signs for the American voter. You have been warned. Now do as you wish.
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From the article:
'A chart outlines the stages of the “roller coaster of emotions” that a buyer will experience. (The “Blast” phase, it explains, is “giving your clients hope again.” The “Probe” phase, it says, must “slowly bring the client back down to reality.”)'
Let's hope that the client/mark known as the US electorate quickly gets past the the "Blast" phase (giving your clients hope again/making America great again) and finally comes to terms with with reality: this man is a reckless, narcissistic fraud and a dangerous demagogue.
'A chart outlines the stages of the “roller coaster of emotions” that a buyer will experience. (The “Blast” phase, it explains, is “giving your clients hope again.” The “Probe” phase, it says, must “slowly bring the client back down to reality.”)'
Let's hope that the client/mark known as the US electorate quickly gets past the the "Blast" phase (giving your clients hope again/making America great again) and finally comes to terms with with reality: this man is a reckless, narcissistic fraud and a dangerous demagogue.
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Trump or Clinton? Arsenic or cyanide? The only ethical choice at this point is to select "none of the above." Is that option on the ballot?
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Donald Trump is a con man. Stop the presses.
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When are the Democrats going to start shaming Republicans for supporting a man who, in the comments on a "Mexican" judge (born in Indiana), showed himself to be a racist of the first order. I suggest that, just like the Republicans adopted "San Francisco Democrats after the 1984 convention, they start using the term, "Fascist Republicans" or similar. Maybe "Confederate Republicans or "KKK Republicans."
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Sounds like every other school.
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Based on this article, Mrs. Clinton is denouncing Trump as a fraud.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/01/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-university/...
This move will almost certainly result in Trump's lawyers demanding a mistrial. If denied, any convictions that should ensue will be appealed (very likely successfully) because of Mrs. Clinton's widely broadcast remarks.
She has gotten Trump off the hook.
What has become of her righteous claim of not commenting on on-going cases? She may just have helped Mr. Trump more than anyone else could have.
https://emcphd.wordpress.com
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/01/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-university/...
This move will almost certainly result in Trump's lawyers demanding a mistrial. If denied, any convictions that should ensue will be appealed (very likely successfully) because of Mrs. Clinton's widely broadcast remarks.
She has gotten Trump off the hook.
What has become of her righteous claim of not commenting on on-going cases? She may just have helped Mr. Trump more than anyone else could have.
https://emcphd.wordpress.com
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Can't declare a mistrial 6 months before the trial starts.
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But arguably you could argue that the jury pool has been tainted.
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I think you could safely say that the media made this fellow the GOP nominee. They knew that for Hillary to become president it *had* to be her against Trump. So they put him up. Now watch them take him down. Talk about conspiracy theories!
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Balzac maintained that behind every great fortune there is a great crime. Most people understand that entrepreneurs, wheeler dealers and Wall Street types have sharp elbows and bend a few corners.
Most people, however, do not understand or accept that public servants benefit from their office. The Clintons arrived poor and left very rich doing nothing more useful than being overpaid for speeches and arranging access to business interests.
Hillary should be very careful opening up the subject honesty as most people perceive her as dishonest.
Most people, however, do not understand or accept that public servants benefit from their office. The Clintons arrived poor and left very rich doing nothing more useful than being overpaid for speeches and arranging access to business interests.
Hillary should be very careful opening up the subject honesty as most people perceive her as dishonest.
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What most people perceive may not be true. Backroom sharp elbows and bending corners tends towards dishonesty. Being overpaid and arranging access to business interests, as a matter of public record, is not dishonest.
Truly, the facts show that Donald Trump is not an honest man. Perceive that however you'd like. Now that the press has stepped up to its responsibilities, Trump's dishonesty is becoming a matter of public record. It's about time.
Truly, the facts show that Donald Trump is not an honest man. Perceive that however you'd like. Now that the press has stepped up to its responsibilities, Trump's dishonesty is becoming a matter of public record. It's about time.
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Arranging access to vested interests while seeking public office is honest? You've gone a long way towards explaining Trump's base.
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Maybe Trump's base will be interested in Trump's tardy donations to veteran's non-profits, eventually made under pressure while still "arranging access to vested interests while seeking public office." Knock yourself out. Explain Trump's base, and be honest about it. I dare you.
Nevermind becoming president. The fact that Mr. Trump has gotten this far is a pure indication that end times are near.
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This is the country that TWICE elected George W Bush, a textbook psychotic who belongs in a nut house. Trump is just the latest ghoul to grace the political stage.
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Trump will have no spokesmen or representatives at the presidential debates. It should be fun as he attacks the moderator, the audience, and Hillary to hide the nothing between his ears.
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Is Trump a bad man? Yes. Does his run for president scare me? Yes. That said, I can't help but feel that the Times needs to pull back on their coverage of how bad he is. The coverage is so skewed that it plays into the hands of those of his supporters who feel that the media is out to get him. So, while I appreciate your trying to point out his flaws, a little more effort to point out why his opponents are be a better choice takes the spotlight off of him and could convince people to vote for someone else.
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Don't hang theessenger. All the media has done to Trump is expose the facts. The public is free to make of them what they will.
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A vey good point to make.
The paper loses it's power to convince people to vote against Trump.
The only thing gained is that people who hate Trump will hate him even more.
The paper loses it's power to convince people to vote against Trump.
The only thing gained is that people who hate Trump will hate him even more.
@Joanne
You really don't understand.
I am against Trump but not because the paper is against him and not because of the message you think they are spreading.
,In fact if I did not hate Trump; these articles might have convinced me to support him .because the enemy of my friend is my enemy.
I support Israel and the Times and liberals are against it so I am against the Times and liberals but unlike most people
the enemy my friend is not always my enemy.
Liberals do this as well and will be against everything that is Republican and people who might support them sometimes.
I actually have friends who call me liberal and liberal will me conservative and I am neither..
You will never convince my friend to hate Trump in the same way I can not convince people to be Pro Israel or to be against trans Gender people using the wrong bathroom/
The Times should stop trying and just report the news and let people decide for themselves who to support.
You really don't understand.
I am against Trump but not because the paper is against him and not because of the message you think they are spreading.
,In fact if I did not hate Trump; these articles might have convinced me to support him .because the enemy of my friend is my enemy.
I support Israel and the Times and liberals are against it so I am against the Times and liberals but unlike most people
the enemy my friend is not always my enemy.
Liberals do this as well and will be against everything that is Republican and people who might support them sometimes.
I actually have friends who call me liberal and liberal will me conservative and I am neither..
You will never convince my friend to hate Trump in the same way I can not convince people to be Pro Israel or to be against trans Gender people using the wrong bathroom/
The Times should stop trying and just report the news and let people decide for themselves who to support.
I am shocked, shocked, to hear this preening buffoon has been lying about one of his investments.
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Personally, I'm aghast.
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This fellow is not going to be president. But it's going to be so much fun, the spectacle from now until November. So sit back and watch. Me, I'm lovin' it. Plus the repubs are all shook up. What's not to like?
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All the employees remember someone else doing naughty things.
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Trump University--a classic oxymoron. President Trump? Even more classic.
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Or even more moron ;-)
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Donald Trump has put his name on wide variety of enterprises, most of which are designed for one purpose--to further Donald Trump. The man disqualifies himself from any political office every time he opens his mouth, and demonstrates that he is unfit for any kind of political office. At this point, the most important task any thoughtful voter in this election has is to prevent this man from putting his stamp on the White House. After the ego-driven failures of Trump Tower, Trump Steaks, and Trump University, the last thing we need is "Trump Presidency."
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A grifter, which is Donald Trumps true nature, is one who obtains money illicitly, using various scams.
His university is simply one of these scams, designed to entrap the unwitting, through the use of his widely known, and infamous name.
Aside from that character flaw, he is a very successful businessman, and he has very astutely gauged real estate markets, over time, and made billions, and he has major ownership interest in properties in several nations.
Bankruptcies are a legal tool business people, and corporate entities legally use to avoid, and decrease debt repayment, so they can reorganize; dozens of corporations take advantage of this relief, and one never hears about them.
That said, Trump is looking at the Presidency as another "Golden" opportunity to capitalize on, his greatest venture ever, and with the title "President of the United States", he will be an historic figure with access to whomever, whatever, and wherever.
One smart operator.
I'm a Bernie supporter and firmly believe that if Hillary is our nominee, it's game over, and get ready for Trump to become our 45th. President.
Today Hillary called Trump a fraud, which he is; regardless it takes incredible gall for a fraud of Hillarys caliber, to label anyone as such, since unlike Hillary, his activities did not adversely affect the reputation and standing of the United States.
Both of these charlatans must be kept far away from our White House.
His university is simply one of these scams, designed to entrap the unwitting, through the use of his widely known, and infamous name.
Aside from that character flaw, he is a very successful businessman, and he has very astutely gauged real estate markets, over time, and made billions, and he has major ownership interest in properties in several nations.
Bankruptcies are a legal tool business people, and corporate entities legally use to avoid, and decrease debt repayment, so they can reorganize; dozens of corporations take advantage of this relief, and one never hears about them.
That said, Trump is looking at the Presidency as another "Golden" opportunity to capitalize on, his greatest venture ever, and with the title "President of the United States", he will be an historic figure with access to whomever, whatever, and wherever.
One smart operator.
I'm a Bernie supporter and firmly believe that if Hillary is our nominee, it's game over, and get ready for Trump to become our 45th. President.
Today Hillary called Trump a fraud, which he is; regardless it takes incredible gall for a fraud of Hillarys caliber, to label anyone as such, since unlike Hillary, his activities did not adversely affect the reputation and standing of the United States.
Both of these charlatans must be kept far away from our White House.
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Bernie has released one out of his past ten years of taxes. That's one more year than Trump has, but 32 years less than we've seen from Hillary Clinton. Without substantiation, you call Hillary a ''fraud.'' I find that type of sliming representative of Republican trolling, yet so many of Saunder's professed backers have shown this proclivity and Saunders has been so helpless to address it while panting after a debate with Trump, that it starts to look that Saunders and Trump are both rather pathetic wannabes who are most adept at making noise and incompetent at delivering the goods. You say ''Trump is a very successful businessman.'' I say, no, he is a very successful grifter and pathologically aggressive salesman.
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Maybe a run for 6th grade tail twister or schoolyard bully. It wasn't obvious? Yes Trump is an insecure attention seeking blowhard who's mother must not have hugged him enough when he was little. Yes Trump is a fraud personally and professionally. Yes the revelations of Trumps taxes, actual wealth, and business practices, with more to come, will be devastating. But his real problem is in his meager qualities and qualifications for the position he seeks. Possessing the basic skill set, knowledge and understanding of governance, domestic and foreign policy all with a total lack of temperament to succeed at any.
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All politicians are congenital tricksters, or they would not have chosen politics as their profession anyway. Does someone as scheming as Mr. Trump not fit naturally in with the rest of them?
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This story, not the venue, is yet another example of how destructive running for public office is. Don Trump has certainly encountered a gauntlet of ridicule and exposure. The public vetting of candidates amply demonstrates why many learned and intelligent people decline to be public servants and further shows the low caliber of candidates that do run for office.
In this 24/7 news media vetting of public figures, the political state of America will decline further.
You have to be a masochist to make yourself a candidate. Most people are not.
In this 24/7 news media vetting of public figures, the political state of America will decline further.
You have to be a masochist to make yourself a candidate. Most people are not.
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The documents pushed employees to exploit the emotions of potential customers.
Next time you are at the grocery store check-out line, make sure to tell management to remove the impulse purchase items they have be the cash register.
All marketing, high end or low end, is based on exploiting emotions.
Next time you are at the grocery store check-out line, make sure to tell management to remove the impulse purchase items they have be the cash register.
All marketing, high end or low end, is based on exploiting emotions.
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Because splurging on a $1.25 candy bar is no different than putting $35,000 on your credit card and getting nothing in return.
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There's a big difference between springing for a pack of gum, which you actually get for your money, and emptying out your retirement account or putting $35,000 on your credit card for a bunch of nothing.
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No? It's not. Few marketers choose to engage in shameless raw exploitation, which is why some Trump marketers quit in disgust. Most do not try their utmost to put direct pressure upon those whom they clearly know will be financially destroyed by their purchase. Using emotions to aid a sale and ruthlessly and ruinously exploiting others, are in no way comparable.
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My first reaction to this story was the same as yours: Trump is a fake and a fraud as he hoodwinks clueless, uneducated people struggling to make ends meet. But perhaps we are not being fair to the man. Let's give Trump the benefit of the doubt and even help him refine his business model.
If elected, Trump could establish a whole new department of government. We already have the Departments of Energy, Education, Interior, State Department, Internal Revenue Service, etc. As President, Trump could easily establish the Department of Real Estate Education (DREE) based upon his Trump University model.
DREE would afford every American the opportunity to learn Trump's secrets of real estate success. Picture it, people. 320 million Americans who are all savvy real estate operators. 12 year-olds would have brokers' licenses and could flip properties to their fellow six-graders. Every citizen would be expert on title searches, construction loans and finance, architecture and engineering, rehabbing, design, surveying, landscaping, and other real estate arcana.
Every American citizen will have a chance to become a billionaire landlord or casino, hotel, or restaurant operator. Children will play Monopoly with real money. Grandmothers will enjoy generous incomes as owners of Class A office buildings in midtown Manhattan. Tax revenues will swell, poverty and disease will be eliminated, towns and cities will sparkle with new construction.
America will be great again!
If elected, Trump could establish a whole new department of government. We already have the Departments of Energy, Education, Interior, State Department, Internal Revenue Service, etc. As President, Trump could easily establish the Department of Real Estate Education (DREE) based upon his Trump University model.
DREE would afford every American the opportunity to learn Trump's secrets of real estate success. Picture it, people. 320 million Americans who are all savvy real estate operators. 12 year-olds would have brokers' licenses and could flip properties to their fellow six-graders. Every citizen would be expert on title searches, construction loans and finance, architecture and engineering, rehabbing, design, surveying, landscaping, and other real estate arcana.
Every American citizen will have a chance to become a billionaire landlord or casino, hotel, or restaurant operator. Children will play Monopoly with real money. Grandmothers will enjoy generous incomes as owners of Class A office buildings in midtown Manhattan. Tax revenues will swell, poverty and disease will be eliminated, towns and cities will sparkle with new construction.
America will be great again!
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Ya gotta laugh. :)
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This is horrifying. As a college professor for over 30 years, I have really tried hard to provide value for my students, a private college education at a public school price. So, to hear of higher education being perverted in this way by Trump is gravely disturbing to me and should be to anyone who is dedicated to contributing to and advancing our nation's institutes of higher education. America is great because of our universities. Trump's shenanigans are right in line with college-bashing Republicans (think Rick Santorum) who have worked assiduously for years to undermine the best university system in the world. Hillary Clinton will continue President Obama's work of strengthening education. I am especially impressed with her courageous resistance to calls for free education for all. Everyone needs to expected to value their education enough to pay something for the service, or at least to earn support through good grades. Her proposals stand out as the most sensible for our country.
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Is it really possible that someone running for President believes a "Mexican" could be confirmed as a Federal Court Judge? Is it too much to ask that candidates for President be able to pass 6th grade level courses in Civics and US Government? Or is it simply that his temper tantrum and attack on Judge Curiel were a backdoor effort to have the judge removed from the case - not because of actual bias - but because he was not ruling in Trump's favor?
It seems clear that Trump's mental issues reach far beyond "narcissism," right into the range of "sociopathy." What IS sociopathy? A personality disorder manifesting in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience. Characterized by disregard for the feelings of others, lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, ability and willingness to lie in order to achieve one's goals. Incapable of sympathy or empathy, dangerous at worst. Signs: Excessive bragging, lack of shame, constantly lying (Fact Checkers find more than 76% of Trump's comments false), charming at first, then scary, manipulative, instigates violent behavior, huge ego, few real friends, extremely selfish, needy, immature (repeats mistakes) and unready for real responsibility. Advice? GET AWAY; warn others, Don't let him charm you with promises or gifts. So ashamed of Mother's background he made up a "better" one.
Trump vs. a woman with 3 decades of public service? No contest. Hillary, all the way.
It seems clear that Trump's mental issues reach far beyond "narcissism," right into the range of "sociopathy." What IS sociopathy? A personality disorder manifesting in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience. Characterized by disregard for the feelings of others, lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, ability and willingness to lie in order to achieve one's goals. Incapable of sympathy or empathy, dangerous at worst. Signs: Excessive bragging, lack of shame, constantly lying (Fact Checkers find more than 76% of Trump's comments false), charming at first, then scary, manipulative, instigates violent behavior, huge ego, few real friends, extremely selfish, needy, immature (repeats mistakes) and unready for real responsibility. Advice? GET AWAY; warn others, Don't let him charm you with promises or gifts. So ashamed of Mother's background he made up a "better" one.
Trump vs. a woman with 3 decades of public service? No contest. Hillary, all the way.
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“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Mr. Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”
This strategy worked so well at Trump U that Trump rolled it out nationally in a presidential campaign.
This strategy worked so well at Trump U that Trump rolled it out nationally in a presidential campaign.
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In blunt testimony revealed on Tuesday, former managers of Trump University, the for-profit school started by Donald J. Trump, portray it as an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands for Mr. Trump’s insights.
And they only know this, eh? Someone's now paying them to tarnish Trump! What a bunch of hypocrites!
And they only know this, eh? Someone's now paying them to tarnish Trump! What a bunch of hypocrites!
There is just no end to the lying, cheating and stealing this man does. Now he is being investigated for shutting down public space in the DT tower, which he gave to get tax breaks, for personal use for press conferences and parties. No wonder the angry, white people who have been carefully groomed to hate OUR government love him. His behavior gives them permission to act just as bad. Like shutting down OUR national wildlife refuge and trying to confiscate OUR public land for their personal use. DT is just another greedy, small-minded inherited-wealth coward. Such a HUGE ego for such a small-minded man to have to support.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tower_us_574ef24de4b029...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tower_us_574ef24de4b029...
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Donald Trump has PROVED that he is a despicable CROOK.
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But... But... But... Because he's been part of -- and successful at -- this scam, this means he knows how to ...well... scam people; but now he's reformed! If you vote for him, i.e. if you turn over the keys to him, he'll show you how to not get scammed the next time around. Trust him now, because he's been so utterly untrustworthy in the past!
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You only have to look and listen to his campaign to see how successful he is at scamming people. One can only hope he gets someone really angry.
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In know this will not be a well liked comment, but I really do not understand why people are surprised that a "school" such as this would be deceptive. Of course it is! It should be obvious to most people that something like this is going to be a scam. If you are not bright enough to see that, then that is not Trump's problem. Similar programs have been around for a long time. They basically give you information that you can easily find through public records or online. I am not defending Trump, but something like this is just following the age old idea of PT Barnum and that there is a sucker born every minute.
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True. The question is, do we let this guy take the whole country as suckers by electing him president? Should the light of truth be shed on this scam artist's repeated lies so that those who have been taken in can reassess? I think this is very important. I think this scam is simple and blatant enough to put the whole Trump phenomenon in sharp contrast.
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Okay, but is it a nice thing to take advantage of the vulnerable? I think not.
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This is the typical blame-the-victim rationale that many of Trump's apologists rely on to excuse what he has done. The victims "should have known better." And if they couldn't see through the SCAM, well too bad. They deserved to be stolen from, swindled and lied to. By that logic, one is arguing that the responsibility for the victims to protect themselves with savvy and sophistication is greater than that of the exploiters to offer a fair value and an honest deal. To me this is an ipside-,down ethic.
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Reams have been written about the death of the American middle class over the years. It seems that the revolution is here. The harder the Times and other nakedly anti-Trump publications hit him, the stronger he appears to get in this massive middle class revolution we are witnessing.
Wm Blake elegantly addressed this problem in two simple lines back in the day: "A dog starved at his master's gate/Predicts the ruin of the state."
Maybe the great political parties need to pay more attention to the dogs and less to the demagogues.
Wm Blake elegantly addressed this problem in two simple lines back in the day: "A dog starved at his master's gate/Predicts the ruin of the state."
Maybe the great political parties need to pay more attention to the dogs and less to the demagogues.
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It is understandable that people long felt ignored and not valued for their hard work would want a champion.
Alas, Donald Trump is not worthy of their devotion.
This is a man who showed steaks, that weren't his, at a press conference. His steak business died long ago, a failure.
Trump "University" is another scam.
How heart-breaking for his supporters. How difficult for them to feel "I, too, was conned".
Alas, Donald Trump is not worthy of their devotion.
This is a man who showed steaks, that weren't his, at a press conference. His steak business died long ago, a failure.
Trump "University" is another scam.
How heart-breaking for his supporters. How difficult for them to feel "I, too, was conned".
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Trump will do nothing but devour whatever remains of the middle class for his own personal financial gain. And then he'll call them losers. His support base is mediocre white losers. Thankfully, there aren't enough of them left to elect a President.
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Without a doubt he'll devour what ever is left.
But this ugly, prejudiced attitude towards a massive group of Americans who've been trying to wiggle their way out of a great recession is part of how he gets so strong. It's hard to believe that the biggest turn out in GOP primary history is composed entirely or even mostly of "mediocre white losers." These people put up the cell phone towers you use to send texts, pull people out of the flooded cities of the South, and have fought in a calamitous war that was thrust upon them. These people have kept the country running day after day, night after night, and understandably expected a fair shake in the bargain. They showed up and weren't asking for any favors. That isn't a loser.
It wasn't bad enough that they had to endure the consequences of the catastrophic economic polices of the last 20 years, but they were dismissed as bitter clingers to boot. When a people aren't being heard, it isn't surprising when a demagogue appears to exploit their discontent.
The opportunity's still there to address the needs of the people rather than to scorn them. Attacking this clown is not a solution to the big problems.
But this ugly, prejudiced attitude towards a massive group of Americans who've been trying to wiggle their way out of a great recession is part of how he gets so strong. It's hard to believe that the biggest turn out in GOP primary history is composed entirely or even mostly of "mediocre white losers." These people put up the cell phone towers you use to send texts, pull people out of the flooded cities of the South, and have fought in a calamitous war that was thrust upon them. These people have kept the country running day after day, night after night, and understandably expected a fair shake in the bargain. They showed up and weren't asking for any favors. That isn't a loser.
It wasn't bad enough that they had to endure the consequences of the catastrophic economic polices of the last 20 years, but they were dismissed as bitter clingers to boot. When a people aren't being heard, it isn't surprising when a demagogue appears to exploit their discontent.
The opportunity's still there to address the needs of the people rather than to scorn them. Attacking this clown is not a solution to the big problems.
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Love these liberal posters.
Trump has over 500 corporations with each involved in a myriad of things and has tens of thousands of employees.
So, he was up late at night "crafting" ads for this project.
Trump has over 500 corporations with each involved in a myriad of things and has tens of thousands of employees.
So, he was up late at night "crafting" ads for this project.
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If you really believe Trump has 500 active corporations, I can see how certain people might fall for Trump U.
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The Blast Phase! The Probe Phase! Trump is treating the entire country like a passel of suckers in a hotel ballroom. I'm praying that Hillary Clinton's team watched Scott Adams on Bill Maher this week, as he went into great detail about the specific techniques of manipulation and persuasion that Trump uses. His mastery of these techniques is what makes him so dangerous. It's great that this lawsuit exposes him as a charlatan... But it's not sufficient. We need all hands on deck.
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Donald Trump is a con artist. He can sell the Brooklyn bridge. Oh wait - when he is President, he can sell all of our bridges, and our cities, and our country for personal gain. What are we waiting for - let's make him, the least qualified and most unscrupulous person, the leader of our great country!
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Yet, they worked there. They kept working there. They retained their jobs, did what they were told, and helped him lie and commit fraud.
So who di I believer? The guy that runs the company, or an employee that clearly is willing to lie for him until he sees money on the horizon.
So who di I believer? The guy that runs the company, or an employee that clearly is willing to lie for him until he sees money on the horizon.
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I would believe the class action lawsuits against him where people have spoken under oath about the fraud that Trump perpetuated and that is the subject of three different lawsuits now, one by the Attorney General of New York. There were victims who have also spoken out. Paying $35,000 for a worthless certificate is sad. But you can always choose to believe the con man at the top: that's why he is successful as a con man -- there's a fool born every minute.
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The employees, and the students, and just about everyone but Trump. How much sense does it take to see what they did to people? As far as the workers being willing to go on with the scam after figuring out that's what it was, that's not good. But in a time of few decent jobs, and given human nature, some held on a while and did the dirty work for the boss. They get nothing out of telling the truth now, and in fact come out looking bad themselves, as you point out here. But maybe there's a measure of penance in it for them, and some help for those who were taken in. As to why you'd want to believe Trump's story, whatever that is this time, I don't know.
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@jb,
"The employees, and the students, and just about everyone but Trump"
You are a liar, not Trump - from the article:
"Not ALL the documents made public on Tuesday were critical. MANY former students said the classes delivered exactly what they had expected."
"The employees, and the students, and just about everyone but Trump"
You are a liar, not Trump - from the article:
"Not ALL the documents made public on Tuesday were critical. MANY former students said the classes delivered exactly what they had expected."
Trump already made clear who he is when he desperately brought out his infomercial steaks to hock at his campaign press conference. Daughter Ivanka says in the 2003 documentary 'Born Rich' that her father once pointed to a homeless man peacefully asleep on a bench outside and told her how that man was better off than them because he's not in millions of $ of debt, and that she felt her father was jealous of and had admired the man.
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Finally, we might have a spit we can really roast this con man on. Turn up the heat NYT. Maybe now he'll find out how hot the kitchen can really get and it might even bring a few of his supporters to their senses.
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How how is this even in court? If even one student was satisfied with the course, it's just sour grapes on the part of the others. I wonder if, like the veterans Hillary lined up, are these litigates on her payroll?
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Except, it's not just sour grapes from dissatisfied students. It's a predatory marketing scheme little better than Bernie Madoff's operation. Or a sub-prime lender like Countrywide. This is a civil suit. It could be a Federal wire fraud charge. Now that Trump has tried to intimidate the Federal judge presiding, it may very well be a Federal contempt of court case.
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Is there some magic ratio to decide if something is a fraud? I mean, if one person out of 500 hundred liked Trump U, and 499 thought they were involved in a fraud, are you saying no one has a case?
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Criticizing a judge is not contempt of court. There is still a 1st Amendment.
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“and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”
“ ... guides encouraging customers with little money to pay for the tuition with their credit cards.”
This is pretty weak beer from the NYT. What I see in these practices is SOP for millions of slimy American businesses. This is nothing new under the sun. C'mon. You really need to get out more often. When it comes to slinging mud, I understand the enormous pressures to get the jump on one's presumptive opponent. We all know the Republicans will be unleashing the dogs of war on Clinton as soon as she's officially the nominee, but I'm sure you can do better than this.
“ ... guides encouraging customers with little money to pay for the tuition with their credit cards.”
This is pretty weak beer from the NYT. What I see in these practices is SOP for millions of slimy American businesses. This is nothing new under the sun. C'mon. You really need to get out more often. When it comes to slinging mud, I understand the enormous pressures to get the jump on one's presumptive opponent. We all know the Republicans will be unleashing the dogs of war on Clinton as soon as she's officially the nominee, but I'm sure you can do better than this.
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These are legal cases. They have already passed the test of being considered frauds; evidence has been collected; and the lawsuits are continuing.
That is not the case for the businesses that you mention. This was a big fraud.
That is not the case for the businesses that you mention. This was a big fraud.
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"What I see in these practices is SOP for millions of slimy American businesses." And that makes it alright? Alright for a presidential candidate? The irony is, the deck is absolutely stacked against the working and middle class, and it's stacked by scammers like Trump, yet he is attracting their votes.
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The current scenario is so much more far-fetched than any satirist could dream up. A presumptive (or is it presumptuous) presidential nominee basing his constantly shifting views on what he heard from someone or saw on the internet or gleaned from the National Enquirer. An insecure rabble-rouser who divides the world into friend or foe of the person he likes to refer to as Donald Trump. His election, which seems utterly impossible -- but I thought that was also true of his nomination -- would turn farce into tragedy. Please America, do the right thing.
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The documents pushed employees to exploit the emotions of potential customers. “Let them know you’ve found an answer to their problems,”
How exactly is that different than the way Trump manipulates his electoral minions?
How exactly is that different than the way Trump manipulates his electoral minions?
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Unfortunately this article, nor these comments will have any impact at all on his favorability ratings or his chances of becoming our new President. The people who love him either will not read it and/or reject outright anything negative written about Trump in the "lamestream media". That's what we, the sane voting public and perhaps more importantly Hillary has to understand - facts don't matter to his supporters. Only emotion, anger, pent up rage, fears, prejudices, resentments, etc. We have to fight fire with fire people and go for the jugular before it gets too late.
"Dirty Trump"
"Trump sez; Make America White Again"
"Dump The Loser Trump"
"Trump: Double-crossing America since 1982"
"Trump Thinks Your Dumb - Prove Him Wrong"
"Trump - Laughing All The Way to the Bank!"
Someone connect me to Hillary's campaign manager and ad team!
"Dirty Trump"
"Trump sez; Make America White Again"
"Dump The Loser Trump"
"Trump: Double-crossing America since 1982"
"Trump Thinks Your Dumb - Prove Him Wrong"
"Trump - Laughing All The Way to the Bank!"
Someone connect me to Hillary's campaign manager and ad team!
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Sounds like Scientology. Intense pressure to buy lessons/audits, regardless of your ability to pay.
L. Ron Trump
L. Ron Trump
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"We teach the technique of using OPM ... Other People’s Money...”
I wouldn't doubt if this was the secret of Trump's business dealings--risking other people's money. If he is as wealthy as he says he is, he shouldn't need ANY campaign donations. If he is as wealthy as he says he is, he could have easily written a check for millions or tens of millions to veterans organizations (the yearly costs and maintenance on his jet alone is likely in the tens of millions). Instead, he's made a big fuss about his sudden largess, which he claims he really wanted to keep secret. Yeah, sure. It reminds me of George Costanza on Seinfeld, who had a deep psychological need to have his restaurant tips acknowledged so that he could "get credit."
I wouldn't doubt if this was the secret of Trump's business dealings--risking other people's money. If he is as wealthy as he says he is, he shouldn't need ANY campaign donations. If he is as wealthy as he says he is, he could have easily written a check for millions or tens of millions to veterans organizations (the yearly costs and maintenance on his jet alone is likely in the tens of millions). Instead, he's made a big fuss about his sudden largess, which he claims he really wanted to keep secret. Yeah, sure. It reminds me of George Costanza on Seinfeld, who had a deep psychological need to have his restaurant tips acknowledged so that he could "get credit."
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One nation
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T R U M P.
Landsliide
Under
T R U M P.
Landsliide
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The man is a sleaze and a pathological liar. Why would anyone with his purported wealth stoop to the level of defrauding innocent people who were trying to better their lives?
He is cold and heartless and cares about no one but himself. To think that he
could represent our nation is beyond repugnant.
Thankfully, the demographics will turn Forrest Trump into exactly what he is already----a real loser!
He is cold and heartless and cares about no one but himself. To think that he
could represent our nation is beyond repugnant.
Thankfully, the demographics will turn Forrest Trump into exactly what he is already----a real loser!
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I sure hope the CIA has a plan to deal with this threat to our national security.
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This is a pretty shallow article. A few selected quotes seemingly lifted from the WP. Trump has no doubt a closet full of more or less questionable business ventures. Regardless of that fact the Times bias is so blatant that the impact of their "reporting" is severely diminished. Who is even paying attention at this point? Another day another rushed Trump hit piece that may or may not hold water. Can't wait to see tomorrow's headline story.
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Trump tried to influence the outcome of the trial by calling the judge names from the microphone of the GOP platform. Can you imagine what he would do as President? Four years with Hillary is better than one sickening day with Trump. Let them send emails. God save America!
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Why do so many Americans seriously consider Donald Trump for president?
Because he saw an opportunity and took it. The Republican party went through 8 years of incompetence and disastrous wars under the Cheney administration. The Republican party followed that up by 7+ years of scorched earth warfare AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY because a black man was president.
Trump pulled off a hostile take-over of the Republican party by promising to do things. Many people don't like what he is promising to do. Many people don't think it's possible to do them. Many people don't trust that he'll do them.
But for 7 years the main goal of the Republican party has been to prevent anything from getting done. They used their congressional majorities to do what? Have endless votes to repeal the ACA. To shut down the government when they don't get their way.
Now they are making up some nonsense about why they don't have to fill a vacant Supreme Court position, and dozens of circuit court and district court positions, for a year. It doesn't matter what reasons they put up: they are doing because Mitch McConnell is a vicious racist who would rather see the country crash and burn under a black president than succeed.
Trump says he'll stop all of that do-nothing nonsense, true or not.
And while some people don't want Clinton because she's a woman, more don't want her because they already know what kind of president she would be. Bernie Sanders illuminated that fact.
Because he saw an opportunity and took it. The Republican party went through 8 years of incompetence and disastrous wars under the Cheney administration. The Republican party followed that up by 7+ years of scorched earth warfare AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY because a black man was president.
Trump pulled off a hostile take-over of the Republican party by promising to do things. Many people don't like what he is promising to do. Many people don't think it's possible to do them. Many people don't trust that he'll do them.
But for 7 years the main goal of the Republican party has been to prevent anything from getting done. They used their congressional majorities to do what? Have endless votes to repeal the ACA. To shut down the government when they don't get their way.
Now they are making up some nonsense about why they don't have to fill a vacant Supreme Court position, and dozens of circuit court and district court positions, for a year. It doesn't matter what reasons they put up: they are doing because Mitch McConnell is a vicious racist who would rather see the country crash and burn under a black president than succeed.
Trump says he'll stop all of that do-nothing nonsense, true or not.
And while some people don't want Clinton because she's a woman, more don't want her because they already know what kind of president she would be. Bernie Sanders illuminated that fact.
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Donald Trump is a thief, a hustler, and he is proud of these behaviors. He will never be elected President of the United States.
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Yes, but did he use his trumpuniversity.edu email address?
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True or false? If Trump was black, he would be considered a thug and dismissed long time ago.
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@Arnold,
I wouldn't have voted for Ben Carson or Herman Cain (he's a tea partier), plus, I know that Clarence Thomas is a walking travesty. And, I'm a Back woman. Does that help answer the question?
6-2-16@12:57 am
I wouldn't have voted for Ben Carson or Herman Cain (he's a tea partier), plus, I know that Clarence Thomas is a walking travesty. And, I'm a Back woman. Does that help answer the question?
6-2-16@12:57 am
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Another trashy hit piece by the Times. This paper has really lost its way.
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Hillary needs to find some of these people who went to Trump U and start making ads with them. Let them explain what they went through.
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Trump: Can't stand him. Won't vote for him. Almost any candidate but Hillary would be walking all over him (miss you, Joe), but I digress. The transparency of the NYT editorial staff is beginning to wear thin. Daily headlines that announce each new days strategy to derail his efforts...it's just looking like a witch hunt (please refer to my first few lines before judging). I know he's what you'd call a "target-rich" candidate/salesman but I've never heard of any private, for-profit university that wasn't all about hardline sales tactics. Is this a genuine insight or just desperate more flame fanning? I've never been more disillusioned...
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What do you think of Carnegie-Mellon University?
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Darn good school, a not for profit institution, and Donald Trump never went there. What are you getting at?
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A presidential candidate with a "scheme", I'm shocked. Reminds me of the other presidential candidate who raised almost $10 million in personal income by giving "speeches" to the banks and corporations she says she will regulate.
I could fill newspapers with these two candidate's schemes.
I could fill newspapers with these two candidate's schemes.
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I seriously cannot believe that Donald Trump, who is a complete JOKE has got the GOP by the short 1s. Seriously. It all started out seemingly innocently enough (that is, these goofy, blue collar workers in exurban & rural areas); all the late night comics had great material for a while (and still do!) -but now that this snake-in-the-grass, compulsive liar is actually being taken seriously, amidst all the rest, who see Trump for what he really is: completely UNFIT to lead any country. Running a business and running the executive branch of govt is NOT THE SAME THING!! and those who treat it like it is the same, are going to have disastrous presidencies. All the normal people in the US are laughing and thinking this is just some really bizarre entertainment, while all the "peasants with pitchforks" are ploughing ahead, taking advantage of their candidates ugly image in some sort of sick joke - now, with what had been a very weak field of GOP nominee candidates, it's not surprising what a lot of money and some charisma, negative as it may be, like a little, spoiled child who has temper tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants!! DUMP TRUMP!!
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All that plus the man is totally amoral.
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Why doesn't this newspaper simply run a large headline "FOR HILLARY' each and every day and leave page one at that -- rather than a) virtually ignoring her serious competition (Sen. Sanders) or pointing out whatever is negative (but never positive) about her presumptive opponent? As the relative of a man who died in combat, I know how grateful the veterans' organizations must be that Trump has helped, yet even that gesture is relegated to a subordinate position in another Trump piece. Really, the bias to your coverage gets tiresome. Why not
correct that and remain a newspaper that deserves some respect?
correct that and remain a newspaper that deserves some respect?
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Trump would create a new level of vindictiveness with the FBI, CIA, IRA and atomics weapons at his disposal. It's like finding a malignant lump somewhere on your body. It's best to have it cut out immediately before it gets a chance grow and kill..
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Trump would create a new level of vindictiveness with the military, FBI, CIA, IRA and atomic weapons at his disposal. It's like finding a malignant lump somewhere on your body. It's best to have it cut out immediately before it gets a chance grow and kill..
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A couple of dozen complaints out of hundreds of students? Sounds like sour grapes in another Trump hit piece from the NYT and their agenda. This is no different from other for profit schools in this country in which students have to get loans to pay the tuition. If it was as bad as they claim there would be hundreds of complaints not 2 dozen.
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So a relatively small number of emails Hillary may have mishandled is no reason to complain.
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Who has money to sue Trump after hocking everything to pay him tuition?
Trump as defendant never settles lawsuits.
Trump as defendant never settles lawsuits.
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Story says complaints were filed in four other states before this lawsuit. So it's certainly more than just 24. You're trying to minimize it.
Besides, most of the people who are sucker enough to get taken in by this guy in the first place are not the kind to complain, especially since that would require admitting you got fooled by this huckster.
Schools like this are very good at turning blame back on complainers: "It's your fault you didn't have success because you didn't follow the program."
And to some extent, they may be right.
However, if the school is using unqualified instructors (a former jewelry salesman?) and lying about it (handpicked by Trump) then you have a case for fraud.
Besides, most of the people who are sucker enough to get taken in by this guy in the first place are not the kind to complain, especially since that would require admitting you got fooled by this huckster.
Schools like this are very good at turning blame back on complainers: "It's your fault you didn't have success because you didn't follow the program."
And to some extent, they may be right.
However, if the school is using unqualified instructors (a former jewelry salesman?) and lying about it (handpicked by Trump) then you have a case for fraud.
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Why is everybody so surprised about what Trump says versus what he does? Why are they surprised at his behavior? He is a narcissist. He always has been. This is what people with this personality disorder do. This is how they behave. This is why nobody can get along with them. This is why Trump has no friends, and only has eye candy wives. He can't sustain relationships. He is a total burn out.
At the end of the election, Trump is going to lose. He will not call and congratulate Hillary. He does not possess the capacity to admit he was wrong, he was defeated or that people didn't want him. Narcissists can't do that. He will mount some kind of legal or other challenge, lose the challenge and say he was screwed and the system was rigged. It is all he can make himself do.
He has to save face. He has to always "win". Even when he loses, he claims victory using some kind of roundabout story to claim a win. The only way he can "lose" is because something was wrong with something else or somebody else or everybody else. Ever notice that when he is questioned that instead of answering the question that he insults the questioner? None of this should be surprising. Trump has a serious personality deficiency.
The best description I have heard about Trump was recently, and I think it came from the NYT. The description was that Trump is a guy who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. Trump is a total fraud, but he is a real danger, so he has to be taken seriously.
At the end of the election, Trump is going to lose. He will not call and congratulate Hillary. He does not possess the capacity to admit he was wrong, he was defeated or that people didn't want him. Narcissists can't do that. He will mount some kind of legal or other challenge, lose the challenge and say he was screwed and the system was rigged. It is all he can make himself do.
He has to save face. He has to always "win". Even when he loses, he claims victory using some kind of roundabout story to claim a win. The only way he can "lose" is because something was wrong with something else or somebody else or everybody else. Ever notice that when he is questioned that instead of answering the question that he insults the questioner? None of this should be surprising. Trump has a serious personality deficiency.
The best description I have heard about Trump was recently, and I think it came from the NYT. The description was that Trump is a guy who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. Trump is a total fraud, but he is a real danger, so he has to be taken seriously.
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That guide book reads an awful lot like a Scientology guide to "converting" new members to their supposed "church."
Trump's biggest mistake was not following L. Ron Hubbard's admonition to start a religion...
Trump's biggest mistake was not following L. Ron Hubbard's admonition to start a religion...
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And this is different than students at major universities going a hundred thousand in debt for a worthless piece of paper? Don't think so.
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The financing of those "worthless pieces of papers from major universities", from which Mr. Trump earned one, are made with grants, scholarships, and loans that are repaid years of regularly scheduled payments to make and which qualify them for good jobs from the day that they graduate.
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If only the Times would spend as much time and effort exposing the Clinton Foundation scams.
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Leave Mr. Trump alone. He is a business man and you all are jealous of his success. He will be a great president.
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@Kelly,
Either that's one heck of a joke or you've got a twisted idea of success.
6-2-16@1:01 am
Either that's one heck of a joke or you've got a twisted idea of success.
6-2-16@1:01 am
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Lady Scorpio - People like you give me hope.
Now may we please see an exposee on the incentives used to persuade people to donate millions to the Clinton Foundation?
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I was persuaded to donate because of the good works they do all over the world.
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It would be so nice if people who took the time to post snark on the internet, took the time to actually read the news. The NYT has a search function, use it and you'll read multiple stories about the Clinton foundation.
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Apples and oranges, Billy. Apples and oranges. Nice try, though.
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Interesting that Mr. Trump's spokesperson seems eager to get to the jury. I would be careful what I wished for in a case like this.
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They should have gone to Abraham Lincoln School of Law, which is internet based. This is where some peacekeepers in Chad and Croatia go to get their degree while stationed there. They are driven and most of them go on to pass the bar. (California is the only state that accepts online law degrees, as I recall.)
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Yet nothing about Hilary.
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Perhaps because it's a story about Trump. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
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Oh, you must mean Hillary University, right?
Or maybe Hillary Casinos?
Hillary Tower?
Hillary Vodka?
Or maybe Hillary Casinos?
Hillary Tower?
Hillary Vodka?
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Will all those Republican politicians still endorse him?
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Why shouldnt the FBI investigate trump univérsity?
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Until Trump fans believe that what they thought was true isn't, they will not change their minds. It's something that we all do if we have become emotionally attached. Trump is very good at presenting a persona that his audiences really like and want to believe. They won't be disillusioned with just a couple of situations which contradict.
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High pressure sales techniques don't force anybody to buy a product. There only seems to be a few individuals who were dissatisfied out of many thousands of students.
The only people who don't believe Trump is innocent until proven guilty is his political opponents and the liberal media.
The only people who don't believe Trump is innocent until proven guilty is his political opponents and the liberal media.
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Don, even lies repeated often enough can get people to buy products that are harmful to them, much less high-pressure sales tactics. Look how well Fox and the republicans have done just with lies alone. It's impressive.
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No matter what side of the fence one is on this election, it would be hard for a newspaper not to show there pregiidious. Here is my take on how we got here.
We are no longer “One nation, with liberty and justice for all.” We are less focused on competing with the rest of the world than we are focused on competing with our fellow countrymen. We are losing our stature on the world stage. This has provided an opening for the remainder of the world to catch up. This has led to our present frustration.
The people of the country are changing philosophically. The country is more politically divided than it has been for generations. The wrestling match revolves around how do we keep our world dominance. The GOP, believes we can bully our way back to dominance and implement an austerity program geared towards the working class and poor. The Democrats are not addressing the problem at all but rather want to buy their popularity with programs and no means of paying for them. No one is thinking long term.
The U. S. was not a world power at the beginning of the 1900’s. It was a nation mostly made up of people with roots in Europe. It was still a struggling nation. The 1918 flu pandemic infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide. It killed more people than all the wars of the twentieth century combined, It ravaged families. In my Dad’s family alone more than half of his brothers and sisters were killed by this influenza before he was a teen. ... http://lstrn.us/1nw9m6f
We are no longer “One nation, with liberty and justice for all.” We are less focused on competing with the rest of the world than we are focused on competing with our fellow countrymen. We are losing our stature on the world stage. This has provided an opening for the remainder of the world to catch up. This has led to our present frustration.
The people of the country are changing philosophically. The country is more politically divided than it has been for generations. The wrestling match revolves around how do we keep our world dominance. The GOP, believes we can bully our way back to dominance and implement an austerity program geared towards the working class and poor. The Democrats are not addressing the problem at all but rather want to buy their popularity with programs and no means of paying for them. No one is thinking long term.
The U. S. was not a world power at the beginning of the 1900’s. It was a nation mostly made up of people with roots in Europe. It was still a struggling nation. The 1918 flu pandemic infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide. It killed more people than all the wars of the twentieth century combined, It ravaged families. In my Dad’s family alone more than half of his brothers and sisters were killed by this influenza before he was a teen. ... http://lstrn.us/1nw9m6f
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"a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Scheme’ "
Sounds like the way most people think of his presidential campaign too.
Sounds like the way most people think of his presidential campaign too.
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Obviously Mr. Trump has no money if he has to stoop this low - he is a house of cards.
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It is time that everyone of reasonable intelligence who cares about the future of this country unites strongly behind Hillary. We have no idea what this man is capable of and what he might do as President. Like many Americans I really did want to see change this cycle. I wanted to see Bernie Sanders in the White House. Our middle class is in terminal decline and Bernie would have fought tooth and nail to create institutions which empower workers in the labor market.
For a split second, I believed that kind of change was possible this cycle. But now I know that the best we can hope for is to escape disaster. Hillary is not an agent of change. I deeply resent that she became rich through speeches that are basically outright bribery. And all indications are that she is a moderate liberal at best, and pretty far to the right of both Bernie and Obama. But all that must be put aside. Liberals, we need to stop threatening to boycott HRC. And moderate conservatives, please think twice before you put a man of such abysmal character in the White House. You don't need to vote for HRC, just stay home. Even if Hillary wins by a few percentage points, it will be disastrous for America's credibility abroad. We need a blow out, a strong statement that fascism will not be tolerated in America. I want Trump to lose so badly that even he can't spin it. In that moment of absolute rejection, maybe even Trump will feel the humility of defeat.
For a split second, I believed that kind of change was possible this cycle. But now I know that the best we can hope for is to escape disaster. Hillary is not an agent of change. I deeply resent that she became rich through speeches that are basically outright bribery. And all indications are that she is a moderate liberal at best, and pretty far to the right of both Bernie and Obama. But all that must be put aside. Liberals, we need to stop threatening to boycott HRC. And moderate conservatives, please think twice before you put a man of such abysmal character in the White House. You don't need to vote for HRC, just stay home. Even if Hillary wins by a few percentage points, it will be disastrous for America's credibility abroad. We need a blow out, a strong statement that fascism will not be tolerated in America. I want Trump to lose so badly that even he can't spin it. In that moment of absolute rejection, maybe even Trump will feel the humility of defeat.
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As a Trump supporter (a registered democrat who voted twice for BO), I remain unfazed by the limitless anti-Trump stories I have been reading here for so many months.
These "stories" I might add, go beyond what one would call “bias”.
The NYT has been going after this man like never before in history, while neglecting another candidate with equal flaws if not more.
What NYT and others like it fail to understand is, people like myself who want Trump don’t care. Most of us already know the objective of the NYT, so we take everything they print as smear, an attempt to weaken a man that is so different what they had seen before.
The more these media tries to tear Trump down, the more we want him.
We need change in this country. Change we don’t think Hilary can bring or Trump can bring. But we know what Hilary will do – keep things the same. We don’t know what Trump will do, and that’s inspiring – good or bad.
Sometime the only way to change the system is to break it down totally. We see that in Trump and see the same old stuff from Hilary.
So I say to the NYT and others like it, keep on, keep on with your stories, they won’t change our minds about Trump. Instead, they have the opposite effect. We already know he is not perfect. But we want him still. Don’t you get that?
These "stories" I might add, go beyond what one would call “bias”.
The NYT has been going after this man like never before in history, while neglecting another candidate with equal flaws if not more.
What NYT and others like it fail to understand is, people like myself who want Trump don’t care. Most of us already know the objective of the NYT, so we take everything they print as smear, an attempt to weaken a man that is so different what they had seen before.
The more these media tries to tear Trump down, the more we want him.
We need change in this country. Change we don’t think Hilary can bring or Trump can bring. But we know what Hilary will do – keep things the same. We don’t know what Trump will do, and that’s inspiring – good or bad.
Sometime the only way to change the system is to break it down totally. We see that in Trump and see the same old stuff from Hilary.
So I say to the NYT and others like it, keep on, keep on with your stories, they won’t change our minds about Trump. Instead, they have the opposite effect. We already know he is not perfect. But we want him still. Don’t you get that?
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I don't believe that you're a Democrat or that you voted for President Obama. These kind of phony claims don't give your drivel any type of credibility.
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I think there is virtually no chance that you voted for Obama twice if you now plan to vote for Trump. If you reject any negative facts about Trump outright, what news sources would you trust for information? Printing information that you don't agree with is not bias. We get that many of you don't care, just like Trump doesn't care. However, the rest of us that care about the future of the United States consider this information proof that Trump would be a complete disaster for America.
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Indeed, we get that Trump supporters will vote for him no matter how despicable he is. I want change too, but I have never been a fan of the "throw the baby out with the bath water" approach. Not to mention which, a president is not a king. Trump isn't going to be able to "break down the system." That is pure folly. The president doesn't have nearly as much power as many people imagine. We will just get another dysfunctional government or Trump will walk the GOP line and sell the middle class out even more. He is, after all, a billionaire just like the others that buy and bribe our politicians. There is no change there. He isn't going to "shake things up." The only way Trump can "break the system down" is by a coup d'etat where he makes himself a dictator. Do you want Trump as a dictator? Is that what you're voting for? If it is then it will be your last vote for quite some time.
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Shocking. Positively shocking.
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I would like to remind our dear readers that this is also the man, his tactics and reputation that major news organizations and networks are riding and carnival barking to record advertising revenues.
Perhaps some of that revenue should be used to reimburse some the evil one's many victims. No. That wouldn't happen.
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You'd think the Republican Party machine would readily embrace the Donald as one of their own.
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Of course, no "university" could teach The Donald's real secret for success in real estate or any other business venture - start by inheriting a LOT of money from your father, who was a much better businessman.
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The real Trump school would be way too incriminating, even for a blowhard narcissist.
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What bothered me about this article was the following:
When it comes to selling the classes, the guidebooks leave little to chance. Inside the rooms where students are asked to enroll in classes, workers are asked to “confirm that room temperature is no more than 68 degrees [F, 20 degrees C]."
Whatever one thinks about this now-defunct school, this aspect describes something truly good. Within NYC, there are way too many stuffy classrooms in both public and private schools, which make it much harder for students to Learn and teachers to Teach, and so confirming a comfortable room temperature is something that should not be taken for granted.
Unfortunately, too many teachers have left this to chance, thus leaving us with unbearable teaching-and-learning conditions!
When it comes to selling the classes, the guidebooks leave little to chance. Inside the rooms where students are asked to enroll in classes, workers are asked to “confirm that room temperature is no more than 68 degrees [F, 20 degrees C]."
Whatever one thinks about this now-defunct school, this aspect describes something truly good. Within NYC, there are way too many stuffy classrooms in both public and private schools, which make it much harder for students to Learn and teachers to Teach, and so confirming a comfortable room temperature is something that should not be taken for granted.
Unfortunately, too many teachers have left this to chance, thus leaving us with unbearable teaching-and-learning conditions!
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That's what bothered you about the article? Nothing else?
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I would find at 68 degree room much too cold. I've had more than my share of workshops in too cold hotel rooms, nose runny, air conditioned air blowing down my back!
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!! Thanks for this. You are too funny.
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Big baby=bully boy.
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Florida voted in Rick Scott, a Medicare fraud. Why would the Republican nation hold back for Don?
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Why why why must he lie lie lie? I applaud the former employees who were brave enough to testify in this case and to tell the truth about what went on at Trump U. I cannot imagine the kind of pressure they faced to remain quiet.
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why? because he's a dangerous narcissistic psychopath. I'm surprised you're still wondering why
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With a NYT's digital subscriber base in excess of 1 million, I'm surprised the number of comments to this article isn't higher...a lot higher.
Dig deeper and I believe Donald Trump's rise says quite a bit about the American psychic...it's visceral fears, frustrations, aspirations, insecurities about who we are as a country and where we might (should) be heading.
To borrower a quote from Churchill's October 1939 radio broadcast about Russia, Trump is a current version of a "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."
I wonder how history will treat this chapter of our country as we move forward in our rapidly changing world order?
Dig deeper and I believe Donald Trump's rise says quite a bit about the American psychic...it's visceral fears, frustrations, aspirations, insecurities about who we are as a country and where we might (should) be heading.
To borrower a quote from Churchill's October 1939 radio broadcast about Russia, Trump is a current version of a "riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."
I wonder how history will treat this chapter of our country as we move forward in our rapidly changing world order?
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"Dig deeper and I believe Donald Trump's rise says quite a bit about the American psychic...it's visceral fears, frustrations, aspirations, insecurities ..."
How about including stupidity in this list?
How about including stupidity in this list?
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Malleability and ignorance could also be added to my second paragraph list. We've lost our ability to think critically and logically about issues, ideas and opinions and be civil and level-headed in the process. That so many Americans succumb Trump's rhetoric is troubling alarming!
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Since Trump believes in branding people, I think that we should all brand him "Don the Con."
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Oh, I like this one! I hope it takes off. I think I'll try it w/hyphens to make sure it always appears together.
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That's good. I'm gonna use it.
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Wait, why did the rooms have to be 68 degrees?
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Pressure sales. They are not referring to the classroom.
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With all the anti-Trump tabloid-style articles bombarding readers daily, why not print in a tabloid-trim size? It fits.
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Truly, I would like to know - what you do you think this is a tabloid-style article? If anything anti-Trump will be tabloid, I'm curious too - do you just not want to know?
I mean, there is nothing "alien baby" here. This a real case, these are depositions, real people got hurt. This article in particular is from the POV of those "in on it" - they've revealed the secrets. There is have been other articles about the people who were hurt.
The article writes about the history and the history of the complaints - this school went belly up for a reason - if it was actually an honest place it could've followed its own advice to succeed. The points of the case will be argued in a court of law, it may not be perfect, but that's how we do it in a civilized democracy. Bringing behavior, esp relatively recent behavior to the public's attention is the JOB of a free press. This is within the public realm, they're looking in his bedroom or bringing up innuendo or being sensationalist - unlike the nominee who actually reads the tabloids.
I mean, there is nothing "alien baby" here. This a real case, these are depositions, real people got hurt. This article in particular is from the POV of those "in on it" - they've revealed the secrets. There is have been other articles about the people who were hurt.
The article writes about the history and the history of the complaints - this school went belly up for a reason - if it was actually an honest place it could've followed its own advice to succeed. The points of the case will be argued in a court of law, it may not be perfect, but that's how we do it in a civilized democracy. Bringing behavior, esp relatively recent behavior to the public's attention is the JOB of a free press. This is within the public realm, they're looking in his bedroom or bringing up innuendo or being sensationalist - unlike the nominee who actually reads the tabloids.
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Mr. Trump's view of life, be it in business or now the political world, is a zero sum game. I win, you lose. Your fired, or you win the contest and can be my employee. People are either with him, or they are (fill in the venomous adjectives that we all know too well). This is an election for America, there should not be winners and losers; that is political correctness, not to let one group suffer at another's expense.
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you do realize that several presidents have had enemies lists -- including JFK -- I bet Obama may have one too. I think most politicians tend to view others in black and white -- friend or foe.
Some of the commenters defend Trump by blaming the marks for falling for the high pressure tactics. Others point out that people will say anything to prevail in litigation. ( Of course good lawyers can ferret out the liars.)
But these commenters are missing the point. The high pressure sales tactics of the man who would be President are on display. How can you trust that he is not just pulling another high pressure sales job on the gullible?
But these commenters are missing the point. The high pressure sales tactics of the man who would be President are on display. How can you trust that he is not just pulling another high pressure sales job on the gullible?
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Clearly he's in the biggest sales pitch if his life, and just like Trump U students, his supporters are being emotionally manipulated. The difference is we all lose if he is elected.
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These are common sales tactics used in every facet of business.
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At this point it seems most Trump supporters are impervious to any sort of logically grounded attacks to Trump's character. Most won't bat a lash after hearing about this scandal, will blame *the establishment* for their slander, and will continue their farcical crusade to Make America Great Again.
However, Bernie or Bust'ers - PAY ATTENTION
Do you see what Hillary is up against here? We as liberals - or even as moderately tolerant and rational human beings - need to unite against what would promise to be an absolute disaster. You think Hillary's prevarication around emails is bad? You think the coup in Libya was bad?
Trump would likely ruin our economy, drastically exacerbate xenophobia (often encouraging violence against foreigners and already-oppressed minorities), speed up global warming, permanently damage relations with other countries, push through homophobic and transphobic legislation, etc etc etc.
If you're abstaining on the grounds that Clinton is dishonest, I implore you to consider Trump's relative dishonesty. Given this man's utter lack of integrity and - more importantly - how freaking scary it would be to have him in the Oval Office, PLEASE VOTE!
However, Bernie or Bust'ers - PAY ATTENTION
Do you see what Hillary is up against here? We as liberals - or even as moderately tolerant and rational human beings - need to unite against what would promise to be an absolute disaster. You think Hillary's prevarication around emails is bad? You think the coup in Libya was bad?
Trump would likely ruin our economy, drastically exacerbate xenophobia (often encouraging violence against foreigners and already-oppressed minorities), speed up global warming, permanently damage relations with other countries, push through homophobic and transphobic legislation, etc etc etc.
If you're abstaining on the grounds that Clinton is dishonest, I implore you to consider Trump's relative dishonesty. Given this man's utter lack of integrity and - more importantly - how freaking scary it would be to have him in the Oval Office, PLEASE VOTE!
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Nowhere in "Bernie or Bust" is abstaining so much as hinted at. What they mean is they will not support a candidate with whom they disagree. Why is that so hard to understand?
They do not see it as the responsibility of a Progressive to elect a conservative Democrat in order to stop a Republican.
Tell the DNC to select better candidates... as they did in 2008 when Mrs. Clinton came in third.
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They do not see it as the responsibility of a Progressive to elect a conservative Democrat in order to stop a Republican.
Tell the DNC to select better candidates... as they did in 2008 when Mrs. Clinton came in third.
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"If you're abstaining on the grounds that Clinton is dishonest, I implore you to consider Trump's relative dishonesty."
Now THAT'S a ringing endorsement...
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Now THAT'S a ringing endorsement...
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We are impervious to obvious attempts to distort the facts to make Trump look bad to further the establishment agenda. Wake up!
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Trump University is exactly the same as Make America Great Again, a scam to con the uneducated and the poor. The name of the game was to create a mystique that would separate unsuspecting victims from their money, with the belief they could get rich quick. Make America Great Again is a scheme to separate unsuspecting victims from their vote, again to rob them by making them think they have a candidate that will make them rich. A successful real estate agent. makes the seller think he cleaned up, and the buy got a deal. The winner is always the agent.
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Trump University, Lesson One, "Securing Your Financial Future": Max out all of your credit cards. Buy a new car, then sell it a month later. Repeat this for a year. Turn down the heat in winter to save money. Then go to the bank, withdraw your life savings, and burn the money in your fireplace to warm up the house. Apply for six more credit cards in order to take more classes at Trump University.
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Great post! I just don't think he'd recommend the ca unless something was in it for him. Perhaps, he'd go with recommending a Trump Resorts vacation? Oh wait, that business went under too...
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Donald Trump has a long history as a blowhard and in dealings with him anyone with sense counted their fingers after shaking his hand. Some it seems, didn't have sense. :-(
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And I've been saying the exact same things about his run for president, it's a lie and a scheme, nothing more.
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Trump was also a paid promoter for one of the most prolific multi-level marketing companies - ACN - where many, many thousands have lost money believing that they could get rich.
A friend of mine bought into this scam, spending $2-3 thousand dollars and devoting considerable time selling ACN "products". the real money was made in getting other suckers to join this scam.
I was invited to an ACN meetingi by my friend and went along to humor him. The meeting started with a video where Donald Trump praised ACN as a solid way to become financially successful. Right then, I knew it was a scam.
A friend of mine bought into this scam, spending $2-3 thousand dollars and devoting considerable time selling ACN "products". the real money was made in getting other suckers to join this scam.
I was invited to an ACN meetingi by my friend and went along to humor him. The meeting started with a video where Donald Trump praised ACN as a solid way to become financially successful. Right then, I knew it was a scam.
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Ah, how sweet it would be to see this man indicted before the GOP Convention.
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For what, exactly?
Indicted? Isn't this a collection of civil suits? Trump's not being investigated by, oh, say, the FBI, is he? Because wouldn't that be cause for concern?
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How about after the convention?
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The new goal for big business in the U.S. is not providing a service or producing a good product. The goal is to take as much money from consumers as possible for the shareholders, CEO, and top staff. The "service" or "product" is just a hook to lure the "customer" in.
I'm old enough to remember when businesses had "the customer is always right" as their motto. Seems so quaint now.
I'm old enough to remember when businesses had "the customer is always right" as their motto. Seems so quaint now.
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are you old enough to remember American cars -- buy it today before it falls apart -- guaranteed to do so in 3 years. See you then. Designed obsolescence.
But you're right -- every business trifles with consumers -- add on charges, hidden charges, reduced serving sizes -- and guess who takes advertising from American businesses -- the fabled NY Times.
But you're right -- every business trifles with consumers -- add on charges, hidden charges, reduced serving sizes -- and guess who takes advertising from American businesses -- the fabled NY Times.
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What other American newspaper gets more complaints about the editorial content negating its advertising content than this one?
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Not every business trifles with consumers, at least not to the extent illustrated in this article. Many businesses, especially small local businesses that rely heavily on their reputation, are honest and conscientious. Trouble is most small businesses can't survive in today's business climate.
To answer your question: I remember my Dad complaining about the designed obsolescence of cars & other products. I also remember the local dealerships complaining bitterly when their old customers "betrayed" them by buying more reliable imports.
To answer your question: I remember my Dad complaining about the designed obsolescence of cars & other products. I also remember the local dealerships complaining bitterly when their old customers "betrayed" them by buying more reliable imports.
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This is what most of the universities do as a general practice, and single anyone one for political purpose is simple bad judgement and bias. Be objective to do to others in the spirit of the law.
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If you want to be frightened just look at the number of people that sign up for these get rich schools. Trump knows it and thinks there are enough simple minded to get elected. I think he may be right. Proof is in the pudding.
By the way what about those that are supporting him, what does it say about them? Fools or crooks?
By the way what about those that are supporting him, what does it say about them? Fools or crooks?
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Shady though it is, selling books and courses that say, essentially, "buy low, sell high" has been a boiler-room staple for generations.
What should truly concern Democrats about this huckster is that, according to the new Rasmussen Poll out today, Mr. Trump is far more trusted than Mrs. Clinton. Twice as trusted!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/electi...
True, we New Yorkers have been hip to the Trump hogwash for decades and it will take the rest of America time to catch up, but the fact that for all his conniving ways, Trump is way more trusted than Clinton is spells big - dare I say HUGE? - trouble for Clinton and Democrats.
They need to consider this at their convention. Or be prepared hand the keys to the White House over to Trump.
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What should truly concern Democrats about this huckster is that, according to the new Rasmussen Poll out today, Mr. Trump is far more trusted than Mrs. Clinton. Twice as trusted!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/electi...
True, we New Yorkers have been hip to the Trump hogwash for decades and it will take the rest of America time to catch up, but the fact that for all his conniving ways, Trump is way more trusted than Clinton is spells big - dare I say HUGE? - trouble for Clinton and Democrats.
They need to consider this at their convention. Or be prepared hand the keys to the White House over to Trump.
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I can be considered a conservative within the narrow political and social definition, but I'm really not. I'm a businessman who lives his personal life based on core ethical values founded on the principles of the Bible. So, I disdain lying, cheating and taking advantage of people. I'm an independent voter. The Republican party has alienated themselves by demonizing Obama which resulted in someone like this racist charlatan to be their number one candidate for the presidency of this great country. What has happened to the corporate consciousness of the citizenry?
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But you do take the name of God in vain because you make your relationship with it public. That has become a very bad habit in the US, on both right and left.
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Let's put this in perspective.
Hillary's jeopardizing our national security for her personal convenience is a far more serious crime than using high pressure sales tactics to sell Trump University.
Hillary's jeopardizing our national security for her personal convenience is a far more serious crime than using high pressure sales tactics to sell Trump University.
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Let's put this in perspective, if you apply Trump's "business" tactics to public policy, he could end up ruining our economy and being responsible for the deaths and injuries of tens of thousands of people.
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yes exactly! let's sugarcoat the fact that Con-Donald Trump is a criminal who's ripping off people of their life-savings and let's move on to talk about unimportant nonsense like Clinton's private the email-server to deflect everyone from the real issues. Bravo, well played Don!
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Colin Powell had his own e-mail server as Secretary of State too. Should he also be put on trial for it?
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While watching the dignified and eloquent President Obama present the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier Monday I was startled to realize that next year Donald Trump could be fulfilling that role. Really? Donald Trump?
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It's not surprising that so many have been taken in by the promises and macho "charm" of this charlatan. A good con man can put one over on a lot of people. However, now that this fraud is beginning to show his true colors, we can only hope these same people do not have too much pride to admit they were taken in. It's time for them to understand there is far too much at stake.
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Trump U doesn't pretend to be Law or Medical School. As far as hard selling these courses- just recently I went online to research an online graduate degree from a top tier institution and was contacted within 5 minutes by a counsellor who pushed and pushed advising me that I should use my credit cards to sign up before the degree program closes out! The honorable investigative press should spend their time diving into the Clinton Foundation overseas stash or better find all those deleted emails sent via the private server located in a midwest bathroom somewhere. Talk about moral compass are you people kidding- fortunately most everyone is so grateful to TRUMP for crushing the Clinton created PC propaganda machine that he will most likely get in! Time to publish Media salaries, agents, entertainment lawyers and their relationships to power if you want to clean up corruption and find your moral compass!
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Top tier graduate institutions do not use high pressure sales tactics, even on people who have applied for, and been accepted to, degree programs. Was this "top tier institution" ... just possibly a for-profit diploma mill, masquerading as an institution of higher learning? I'd be very, very curious to know the name of this august graduate school.
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Do any of these disclosures come as a surprise to the handful of objective observers left in America?
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Only Sanders can beat Trump.
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Maybe in a hair contest.
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This is just the peak of the iceberg. Nobody has yet disclosed his business dealings or his income taxes. There should be some doozies there. Now is the time to expose him for what he really is, a con -artist.
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Why is anyone surprised? The man is a huckster, has always been a huckster, and will remain a huckster. Being a New Yorker for the past 43 years I am perfectly aware of Trump, anyone not living under a rock would be.
But President? Are you kidding? PT Barnum would have made a better choice. Without listing his shortcomings I am left with only one response. Are you kidding?
But President? Are you kidding? PT Barnum would have made a better choice. Without listing his shortcomings I am left with only one response. Are you kidding?
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Trump is a predator and his prey, uneducated poor white Americans flock to him to be used and abused. Why they think a billionaire is on their side is the big mystery of his candidacy.
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Supporters of Mr. Trump (given only HRC as opponent) cross all socioeconomic and educational lines. I pray Mr. Sanders defeats her in California.
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Wealthy people in the past were altruistic. Great colleges and universities were founded (or expanded) through the beneficence of people like John Harvard, Andrew Carnegie, Henry and Betty Rowan, Leland and Jane Stanford, and William Van Duzer Lawrence - to name a few. They respectively created Harvard, Carnegie-Mellon, Rowan, Stanford and Sarah Lawrence. Even Tom Monaghan - founder of Domino's Pizza - created Ave Maria University. The primary goal of these disparate institutions is to educate - not to siphon profit nor build upon the benefactor's ego.
If Trump wanted to make a difference in the lives of the public, he could have started a real non-profit institution, endowed scholarships bearing his name, or saved financially struggling colleges like Dowling, Morgan State, Franklin Pierce or Burlington College which just closed last week.
Donald Trump is all about bravado, making money and deals and wooing women. Those aren't the qualities of a President, which should be about public service - about which "the Donald" knows nothing.
If Trump wanted to make a difference in the lives of the public, he could have started a real non-profit institution, endowed scholarships bearing his name, or saved financially struggling colleges like Dowling, Morgan State, Franklin Pierce or Burlington College which just closed last week.
Donald Trump is all about bravado, making money and deals and wooing women. Those aren't the qualities of a President, which should be about public service - about which "the Donald" knows nothing.
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Sadly, people on the left are also blind to the flaws of their candidate. What brought us to the point where we expect so little from people running for President.
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If by "the left" you mean Hillary Clinton, you are in serious need of some college courses yourself.
May I suggest History 101?
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Has anyone bothered to check out courses offered at Harvard, Berkeley, Brown, etc lately? You would be astonished to find all of the ridiculously expensive MSEX courses available, or as an example, QueerMusicology as a major? Kids graduate with worthless degrees every year and not a single complaint or investigation by the press. Lawsuits about these worthless majors at notable private Universities are squashed & silenced in the media- Why? All of a sudden Trump is being investigated because he offers courses on salesmanship?
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Trump deconstructs everything the Media, Hollywood & the Democratic Party have done since Clinton in these courses & its called the selling of America. Frankly its more worthwhile then half the garbage sold to students each year by academic dilettantes. Why the outrage over Trump's courses?
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Because many American citizens like myself think that the office of the President of the United States of America should be held by a dignified adult who isn't an outright swindler.
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Then that eliminates Hillary.
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The outrage is the graduation of students who believe in magic and don't have a clue how business or civics work.
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I definitely wouldn't go to Trump University.
I would take Hillary Clinton's Cattle Futures Trading course. I hear you become really good at trading futures in no time.
I would take Hillary Clinton's Cattle Futures Trading course. I hear you become really good at trading futures in no time.
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ride 'em, Cowboy! HRC certainly must be a genius, incredibly lucky, or....not sure what the other options are (crooked and corrupt come to mind).
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Hillary has staying-power.
Agreed.
She's survived several scandals: Benghazi, Whitewater,, Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers, private email investigations, Filegate, Boeing Bucks, a Swedish slush fund, the Asia fundraising scandal, etc.
Did I miss any?
She's survived several scandals: Benghazi, Whitewater,, Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers, private email investigations, Filegate, Boeing Bucks, a Swedish slush fund, the Asia fundraising scandal, etc.
Did I miss any?
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Using these same tactics, banks and other financial institutions enslave countries and their citizens.
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To quote Doug Glanville's dad, "How a person does one thing is how he does everything".
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Scheme yes, lie no. Like many other of Trumps ventures it was a failure. That does not mean it was a lie. Trump's arrogance led him to believe it would be as success even though there was no good reason to believe so. There are eight failed business ventures in this country for every successful one. Trump University was a failure, not a fraud. One of the few good features about Trump is when something fails, he scraps it and tries something else. Would that Obama would do that with the ACA.
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People were told the instructors were hand picked by Trump. Trump admitted that they weren't. That's called a lie.
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But he sells himself as a business genius! Did his "university" disclose students should expect to fail 8 times before getting rich quick?
Can America survive 8 "make America great" schemes and 4 or more bankruptcies on it's way to greatness?
His failure after failure in business instincts qualify him to make decisions as president of the United States?
He moves from one failed venture to another qualifies him to run this country?
You're reasoning, Sir, is baffling. Excuse me but I don't want the likes of him failing this country and moving on. My retirement couldn't survive it. We already had that with 8 years of Bush.
Can America survive 8 "make America great" schemes and 4 or more bankruptcies on it's way to greatness?
His failure after failure in business instincts qualify him to make decisions as president of the United States?
He moves from one failed venture to another qualifies him to run this country?
You're reasoning, Sir, is baffling. Excuse me but I don't want the likes of him failing this country and moving on. My retirement couldn't survive it. We already had that with 8 years of Bush.
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Compared to Hillary he looks like "Saint Trump"
Neither candidate has the impeccable character and integrity all Americans should demand in the next president.
Neither candidate has the impeccable character and integrity all Americans should demand in the next president.
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The law firm who financed this lawsuit has given millions to Clinton's campaign. Is that a fact that we can not ignore??
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Cite a source for your "fact"
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It is June 1. The election is over five months away. I'm seeing daily headlines on Trump scandals, which I doubt will affect the outcome of the Republican nomination process. The gist of them is not news now, only the details. I can't believe the NYT wants the GOP to dump Trump at the convention and field a stronger candidate to run against HRC anyway, so what's the point? Voters will have acclimated to stories floated in the summer by the fall; that's what we do. Unless the NYT has a large supply of shockers or tantalizing embellishments to what we already know, I'm wondering why the editors are spending the shock and outrage capital this far out, when it won't do much good.
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Mr. Trump may be the most thin-skinned Presidential candidate in our country's history. Is this really the guy you want to have his finger on the nuclear trigger?
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I was SHOCKED, yes shocked to discover that con-man Trump had duped the public by over promising on deliverables for his own benefit.
Gosh here is a self proclaimed business genius failing at launching a educational institution which focuses on his greatest strength - real estate.
It is a good thing that he has changed his spots and not longer deploys hyperbola to sell his new political brand.
There is a sucker born every minute and many are now voting age
Gosh here is a self proclaimed business genius failing at launching a educational institution which focuses on his greatest strength - real estate.
It is a good thing that he has changed his spots and not longer deploys hyperbola to sell his new political brand.
There is a sucker born every minute and many are now voting age
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Beavis Trump is running his crude, sophomoric, thoughtless, sexist, dumb, ugly campaign for President without Butthead by his side. Maybe he's going to nominate him for VP or he may be holding hi back for the Supreme Court if he wins.
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His supporters admire him for fleecing rubes. Plain and simple. It's been known for years that the "university" was a scam and a ripoff and that hasn't slowed the rise of Trump one bit.
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Hon, if the NYT posted a picture of Trump in a Nazi uniform, sporting a little black mustache, giving the heil salute, he would just garner more votes.
Can't fix stupid.
Can't fix stupid.
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Sadly, I find myself going directly to one of the fact-checking sources after Mr.Trump speaks. Can you believe having a president who you cannot believe?
Yesterday was a perfect example of how he always puts himself first. He's standing in front of heads of veteran's groups, belittling the press, while the folks who should be getting the attention--the vet's--stand as props behind him.
Again, the focus is on himself, and how he's being held accountable for collecting mainly "other people's money" and then debases the press for having the audacity to ask him to account for it.
Yesterday was a perfect example of how he always puts himself first. He's standing in front of heads of veteran's groups, belittling the press, while the folks who should be getting the attention--the vet's--stand as props behind him.
Again, the focus is on himself, and how he's being held accountable for collecting mainly "other people's money" and then debases the press for having the audacity to ask him to account for it.
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How come I don’t read any comments from the Bernie Sanders adherents? The same who pounce on every negative news item about HRC. Will 30 - 40 % of them still be determined to vote for Trump or stay home if their man does not get the nomination? If yes, where is Mr. Sanders’ voice to set them straight? How many more such horror stories does the NYTimes have to print before he realizes that a great responsibility weighs on his shoulders?
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Business success means taking suckers for a ride while building up a firewall that protects the businessman from retribution. Unfortunately, this is not the "secret" taught to the suckers who shelled out for Trump "University."
Mr. Trump turned out to be all the epithets he threw at everybody who disagrees with him. The icing on the cake, was to insult a judge on the basis of his ancestry. He is cooked toast.
The only credit I give him is his successful destruction of the Republicans, made of the same cloth.
He is a member of the worst class of money worshiping people who deified sleazy CEOs like himself. It started in the 90s and destroyed the livelihood of millions of Americans today. Thanks for the coup de grace.
The only credit I give him is his successful destruction of the Republicans, made of the same cloth.
He is a member of the worst class of money worshiping people who deified sleazy CEOs like himself. It started in the 90s and destroyed the livelihood of millions of Americans today. Thanks for the coup de grace.
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Thank you NY Times for yet another piece on Trump- master con artist. Of course, I am not surprised in the least that the reality TV star turned politician is in fact a scammer and has had to resort to lies and tricks to make money. It is no wonder Trump does not want to show his tax returns- they will show he is not nearly as rich or successful as he claims to be- another lie.
What does chagrin me ( but again doesn't surprise me) is the steady stream of GOP pols that have lined up behind Trump- many of which called him every name in the book but have now fallen like dominoes with spines of the proverbial jelly fish to support him- just so they don't endorse a Dem ( any Dem). They are looking out for number 1- themselves- and could not possibly care less about the American people. They've been demonstrating this attitude for decades.
How does it feel GOP leaders to know you have so let down your voting base so profoundly with every obstruction possible that they would rather support a con artist, crazy nincompoop than to support any member of the establishment GOP? You should all just resign in shame before you get thrown out in the coming election.
What does chagrin me ( but again doesn't surprise me) is the steady stream of GOP pols that have lined up behind Trump- many of which called him every name in the book but have now fallen like dominoes with spines of the proverbial jelly fish to support him- just so they don't endorse a Dem ( any Dem). They are looking out for number 1- themselves- and could not possibly care less about the American people. They've been demonstrating this attitude for decades.
How does it feel GOP leaders to know you have so let down your voting base so profoundly with every obstruction possible that they would rather support a con artist, crazy nincompoop than to support any member of the establishment GOP? You should all just resign in shame before you get thrown out in the coming election.
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Trump University sounds like some time-share pitches I was fool enough to attend, but, thankfully, not fool enough to sign on to. Anything, and I mean anything, that requires a high pressure pitch is meant to do one thing and one thing only, get the money and run.
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It doesn't matter what happened at Trump University. Business is hard and companies fail often. Everyone entrepreneur understands that, but serial employees would not.
Either way, none of Trump's crimes are important compare dot the alternative, Hillary Clinton and her 25 years of damage for this country.
In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton’s intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan’s peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead.
Her record of avid support for US-led regime change includes (but is not limited to) the US bombing of Belgrade in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Iraq War in 2003, the Honduran coup in 2009, the killing of Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi in 2011, and the CIA-coordinated insurrection against Assad from 2011 until today.
Either way, none of Trump's crimes are important compare dot the alternative, Hillary Clinton and her 25 years of damage for this country.
In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton’s intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan’s peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead.
Her record of avid support for US-led regime change includes (but is not limited to) the US bombing of Belgrade in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, the Iraq War in 2003, the Honduran coup in 2009, the killing of Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi in 2011, and the CIA-coordinated insurrection against Assad from 2011 until today.
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Well you are off in the weeds.
When you cut and paste from talking points from Brietbart or wherever, cite your source.
This article is about Mr. Trump cheating his "university" students in a big fat scam.
When you cut and paste from talking points from Brietbart or wherever, cite your source.
This article is about Mr. Trump cheating his "university" students in a big fat scam.
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The whole Trump candidacy is a lie and a scheme. As a former Republican and a naturalized American I am bitterly disappointed that my adoptive country and my former party had fallen for such a primitive scam of a candidacy.
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"A lie" and "a scheme"? Uh, excuse me, but that's what makes it so beautiful and huge, duh. What, were you journalists, like born under a rock or something?
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Trump is a great example of my long held contention that most anyone born into a lot of money can quite easily make a lot more. It doesn't take great business acumen, as our system is set up to make that happen. Look at what our banking system has turned in to...charging 20% interest, and turning around and paying 1% to depositors....ha. How do you fail at that game? Then using people's retirement funds to speculate on high risk investments. Disgusting.
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Now we know how Mr. Trump will have Mexico pay for the wall. He will convince as many poor Mexican citizens to take out as many credit cards as possible and max them out . He'll convince them it will HUGELY increase their wages and job growth in their towns. What a fantastic idea.
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Definition of university: "an institution of learning of the highest level, having a college of liberal arts and a program of graduate studies together with several professional schools, as of theology, law, medicine, and engineering, and AUTHORIZED to confer both undergraduate and graduate degrees." Universities are ACCREDITED, Trump understands this, he is proud of attending a university and sending his daughters to a university, so he deliberately chose a fraudulent title for "Trump University." He knew he would be targeting the "under-educated," less likely to understand his phony use of the word. Trump's genius was to realize how many under-educated people he could scam then, and now.
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I attended a Trump "University" seminar and was subjected to high-pressure tactics, wild promises of financial gain, "the next 20 people to purchase" tactics and shaming if I didn't sign up. That was the day I realized Trump was a sham. I was so disappointed, I threw out all his books at home. I realized he was a predator.
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I am hoping the jury comes back with an award that bankrupts him, i.e., 10 times the $40 million profit he made or $400 million-plus. And if it is proved he was involved with the details of the plot, Preet Bharara, the U.S. Attorney in Southern NY, can indict him on RICO predicates and mail and wire fraud.
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Perspective makes no difference in that lump of coal. Every facet of everything he's ever touched screams "Fraud," "Charlatan," "Schemer," "Carnival Barker."
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The only surprising and dissapointing thing about this article is how inexcusably late it is. This should have been on the front page of every responsible newspaper 6 months ago.
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Yep. I've been following this story since 2015. I'm sure that every major news outlet has a pile of stories they've been sitting on but they wanted to milk Trump for click bait for as long as they could.
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Problem is, Donald's supporters don't read the newspapers, and if they did would still be persuaded that journalists are being "unfair" and are "scum." Trump's folks don't read the NYT, for sure. They really don't care what the papers say because they are "low information" and believe Donald "tells it like it is." That's all they need to know.
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1. Did he get a cut of the credit card profits? Did the instructors?
2. Sounds a lot like Scientology and the pressure to audit.
3. Hair Trump was born rich. That's one secret to his money.
4. Are people so addled that they can't tell a reality show from real politics? That voting for officials has serious ramifications?
5. Ponzi scheme or Tri-level marketing.
I attended a how-to-get-rich-with-websites seminar with a friend. Some really good information over all. We all were facing forward towards the speaker.
After the introductory remarks, I left the room. In the back of the room (behind us) were phone banks, computers, and credit card readers. I assumed our worth, based on some information sheets we filled out, was being tallied by the bean counters who so ably helped us fill out forms earlier.
Those with good credit, gullible enough, whatever got "interviewed" immediately after lunch. High pressure pitches. My friend and I refused to give them our social security numbers. We got 5 minutes at the very end.
The Utah-based company had many, many Attorneys General after them for various infractions. My friend contacted the FBI and WA State AG and got our seminar money back. Upshot: entertaining and education day, lunch with a friend, get-rich-quick schemes are bunk.
2. Sounds a lot like Scientology and the pressure to audit.
3. Hair Trump was born rich. That's one secret to his money.
4. Are people so addled that they can't tell a reality show from real politics? That voting for officials has serious ramifications?
5. Ponzi scheme or Tri-level marketing.
I attended a how-to-get-rich-with-websites seminar with a friend. Some really good information over all. We all were facing forward towards the speaker.
After the introductory remarks, I left the room. In the back of the room (behind us) were phone banks, computers, and credit card readers. I assumed our worth, based on some information sheets we filled out, was being tallied by the bean counters who so ably helped us fill out forms earlier.
Those with good credit, gullible enough, whatever got "interviewed" immediately after lunch. High pressure pitches. My friend and I refused to give them our social security numbers. We got 5 minutes at the very end.
The Utah-based company had many, many Attorneys General after them for various infractions. My friend contacted the FBI and WA State AG and got our seminar money back. Upshot: entertaining and education day, lunch with a friend, get-rich-quick schemes are bunk.
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Wow! Reading this for the first time as my daughter mailed me this article. Wished I'd have known this stuff here in Fairfield County back in the primaries. I actually voted for Trump just to send a message. But, not this message. John Kasich was right, but now they say he's chumming up to Trump. At this rate I'll be going back to the Democrats who at least are not criminal.
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As a civil defense attorney, I can tell you that people never lie on the stand. Especially when they are trying to prove their case and get lots of money. I mean it would be ridiculous to think that any exaggeration would even be occurring when these disgruntled students present their lawsuit to try to get lots of money. I can see why the rivers of international money flowing through the Clinton foundation are irrelevant when compared with this intriguing and reliable look at Mr. Trump. Bravo NYT, more unbiased journalism for your cult.
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You may be an attorney, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that TRUMP in big letters above the word university is a scam to bait those that think that Trump knows something they don't. Also, real estate, by nature is a scam, especially if you are successful. You convince people to sell what you call worthless property, which you know has value. Lastly, of all the professions, never trust a lawyer.
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As a self-proclaimed "civil defense attorney" you should also realize that people sometimes tell the truth and that they actually may deserve the damages that they are seeking.
It's just funny to me how Trump supporters commenting on this article have no defense of this bottom-feeder so they try to change the subject to Hillary and complaining that there's not enough negative coverage of her campaign
It's just funny to me how Trump supporters commenting on this article have no defense of this bottom-feeder so they try to change the subject to Hillary and complaining that there's not enough negative coverage of her campaign
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Civil defense attorneys are exposed to the dregs of humanity every day. No wonder you paint everyone else with the same brush. Believe it or not, there are plenty of people who adhere to the truth. And all you have to do is adhere to the truth in order to finger Donald Trump for the con man that he is.
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Trump is a criminal, plain and simple. He is a vile, evil man who deserves to be in prison.
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The "fun' and games are over. Trump is disgusting. It's one thing to verbally insult most of humanity entirely another to steal from the vulnerable and unsuspecting. He'd look good behind bars. He could use it for another TV show.
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Trump is a marketing genius. If he were to combine his Miss America activities, and his beef steak selling activities, he could produce a product which would, for once, tell voters the truth about voting for Donald J.Trump - it would be called "MISS STEAK".
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Does Mr. Trump's presidential campaign really hinge on the alleged fact that he is a successful business man? Or does it hinge on the fact that he is a racist (e.g., the most prominent "birther," Mexicans-as-rapists, banning all Muslims)? Because the Trump University fraud is not a new story -- some of the documents may be newly released, but the Republican primary voters had this information available (plus steaks, multiple bankruptcies, etc.) -- and they voted for him anyway.
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What we have learned as of Wednesday is that when you want to go into a criminal business of selling your influence to foreigners so that you basically SELL to them the chance to do business with the U.S., you surround yourself with lawyers.
You don't even need to promise the Cheryl Mills types extra cash - because, see, YOU are selling your position to THEM, too, But when all your acolytes are lawyers, they don't have to testify about you if you are their client.
If Al Capone had been this smart, he'd have spent those years in a tomato garden with grandchildren. While the column here is about Trump, you know as well as I how likely the Times-Hillary newspaper is going to want to talk
about Ms. Mills testimony.
But Brian Pagliano even revealed that this criminal conspiracy was going interfering with Hillary getting emails while on the top floor of the State Dept. building.
Hillary controlled people, but her conspiracy was against the U.S. government's ability to control secret information. Thus, her conspiracy was against enforcement of the law.
No one made an offer for Mills to avoid prosecution - because they know she'd cover for her friend anyway.
You don't even need to promise the Cheryl Mills types extra cash - because, see, YOU are selling your position to THEM, too, But when all your acolytes are lawyers, they don't have to testify about you if you are their client.
If Al Capone had been this smart, he'd have spent those years in a tomato garden with grandchildren. While the column here is about Trump, you know as well as I how likely the Times-Hillary newspaper is going to want to talk
about Ms. Mills testimony.
But Brian Pagliano even revealed that this criminal conspiracy was going interfering with Hillary getting emails while on the top floor of the State Dept. building.
Hillary controlled people, but her conspiracy was against the U.S. government's ability to control secret information. Thus, her conspiracy was against enforcement of the law.
No one made an offer for Mills to avoid prosecution - because they know she'd cover for her friend anyway.
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If only Trump's supporters would:
1. Read this article
2. Believe it
3. Remember it
Mr. Trump somehow has the ability to make his supporters either ignore or forget the outrageous things he says and does. Mrs. Clinton's job, as I see it, is to keep reminding people.
1. Read this article
2. Believe it
3. Remember it
Mr. Trump somehow has the ability to make his supporters either ignore or forget the outrageous things he says and does. Mrs. Clinton's job, as I see it, is to keep reminding people.
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Trump supporters are people that admire his traits. He knows it and plays it for all it's worth. These are the people that see assistance to disadvantaged populations as money stolen from them, racism as a god given right and strength through threats as leadership. They see Trump as the person who will make America as it was before the Civil War. The choice is clear.
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WiilyD- Doubt that will ever occur. First of all, this would have to be aired on Fox for them to know about it.
Second, I doubt they would remember it. Trump only said one true thing in his life when he said " I love the under-educated". He wasn't kidding.
Second, I doubt they would remember it. Trump only said one true thing in his life when he said " I love the under-educated". He wasn't kidding.
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This article neglects to mention that he was forced to stop using then name “Trump University” because the business was not licensed under New York State Education Law, and was evading legal protections designed under the law to protect New Yorkers from fraud. Trump continued using the fraudulent name for FIVE years after being warned by the NYS Education Department. The name was eventually changed to "Trump Entrepreneur Institute."
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This whole bizarre situation, i.e. many people actually believing Trump could be an effective president, makes me think of how peoples' perceptions are distorted by salesmanship. Remember the young actor who used to plug Macintosh computers? Frustrated computer owners would approach him on the street asking for help with their machines. Donald Trump sold himself as some kind of know-it-all genius, the media had fun using him for ratings, and the public has bought into his phony persona.
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It is apparent that nothing sticks to this person who has so calculatedly appealed to the worst fears and tendencies of a population determined to feel better about their future and themselves by placing the blame on others, especially when that person has bought his seat of cultural influence through a television show where he fulfilled the little persons desire to manifest power by decimating those weaker.
I feel that the only thing that will begin to pull aside the curtain on who this man really is, will be the condemnation and strong disavowal of him by other cultural personalities (read celebrities) whose credibility is more strongly believed by his base. Obviously, other Republican politicians have had no effect - the debates and surveys following them show that the wide range of repub political POVs mean nothing. No, unfortunately, it's going to take NASCAR drivers, and country singers and white athletes and a multitude of cultural working class heroes with guts, whose followers believe them more than they now believe trump.
I feel that the only thing that will begin to pull aside the curtain on who this man really is, will be the condemnation and strong disavowal of him by other cultural personalities (read celebrities) whose credibility is more strongly believed by his base. Obviously, other Republican politicians have had no effect - the debates and surveys following them show that the wide range of repub political POVs mean nothing. No, unfortunately, it's going to take NASCAR drivers, and country singers and white athletes and a multitude of cultural working class heroes with guts, whose followers believe them more than they now believe trump.
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Did half of America go crazy under a black president? At first glance the question seems absurd, even offensive, but as I look back on the past 7 years of political history I think it's actually reasonable to conclude that half of Americans (or slightly less, hopefully!) have gone stark-raving mad.
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Important reporting - keep it up. Americans need to keep being reminded who this guy really is. I really hope he's forced to answer for this - he seems spectacularly ill-suited to do so.
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MM - are you a parrot? You keep repeating the same comments over and over again. We get it - you don't care for Hillary.
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It isn't hard to be a lot prettier than The Donald, though.
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Let's elect Trump to the White House. His plan may actually be to pull this kind of scam on us. In that case, I doubt that the American People will go along quietly.
I can't wait for how the People are going to deal with him then. One thing is certain: it will be the biggest reality TV show ever, but I doubt that Trump will enjoy his role even one bit.
I can't wait for how the People are going to deal with him then. One thing is certain: it will be the biggest reality TV show ever, but I doubt that Trump will enjoy his role even one bit.
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A reality show it is, but as President it will be like his fund raiser for the vets. Pin him down, and he will react, but in a nasty way in an attempt to prevent another pinning. Time for an FBI investigation of his business dealings.
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Let's not.
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Gullible, desperate, angry, and frustrated Americans are voting for Donald Trump. They won't listen to reason. They've bought the Trump Reality Show. They are mesmerized by The Donald, and truly believe that he epitomizes success in business which will somehow translate to success in politics. They have absolutely NO CLUE and unfortunately CANNOT BE REASONED WITH. Even if a scandal were to unfold where Trump's guilt is undeniable, the Trump supporters will hold fast. This... THIS is the problem with our country and it has been brewing for years. And it stems from a very weak educational and parenting support system, brought on by the GOP's rampant need to shrink government until the 3 class financial tiers becomes 2 tiers -- wealthy and poor.
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Trump wants to be 'Con man in Chief'.
We need to do all we can to ensure his scam unravels before November.
We need to do all we can to ensure his scam unravels before November.
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I feel sorry for House Speaker Ryan. A principled man, no doubt, who in no way wants to support a man like Trump for President. I believe in my heart of hearts that he wants to place country before party. I would not be surprised to see him resign the speakership rather than endorse the "presumptive nominee." But, of course, I couldn't believe my Senator, Rubio, would shame himself like he has. Go figure.
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Ryan isn't principled, he's running a completely different con than Trump but his is just as dangerous if not more so.
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I should have inferred that he was a man of principle in his mind. I do not necessarily agree with him. Heh...
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Blue collar worker defending Trump: "Trump is a shrewd business man . He knows how to make money. Nobody put a gun to these peoples' heads they made the decision to join Trump University of their own free volition. It is obvious that a Mexican judge and the liberal biased NYT are out to get Trump."
Same blue collar worker talking about bankers: "They are a bunch of crooks and scam artists. The way they deceived the American public was a crime. They belong in jail and should rot for a long time."
Same blue collar worker at Trump rally with his "Make America Great" hat on: Trump, Trump, Trump.
Same blue collar worker talking about bankers: "They are a bunch of crooks and scam artists. The way they deceived the American public was a crime. They belong in jail and should rot for a long time."
Same blue collar worker at Trump rally with his "Make America Great" hat on: Trump, Trump, Trump.
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How slick is Donald Trump? Slick enough to have his "students" write a review of his "college" program in its infancy. Odds are that newly minted "students" would have little negative to say in the beginning, and that the reviews could be used at a later date to thwart any criticism that might pop up.
Hats off to you, Mr. Trump-you thought it all out so precisely. You are a master manipulator, a true psychopath.
Hats off to you, Mr. Trump-you thought it all out so precisely. You are a master manipulator, a true psychopath.
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Anyone familiar with civil lawsuits knows you can find all kinds of unflattering descriptions, deceptions and and vicious personal attacks in the legal briefs and testimony; that's how litigators with little or no support from facts or the law try to make their case. And, as with people who succumb to an aggressive salesman, so too will some judges and juries succumb to the persuasive story-teller. Yet, absent from this article are any substantive facts or evidence that prove wrong-doing by Trump. Instead, some disgruntled customers found a lawyer to sue billionaire Trump, while other students credited the school with helping them succeed. It's the sad state of our lawsuit society and the socialist-loser mentality promoted by the Democrat party: whine, proclaim victim status, blame someone else for your failures then demand money.
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Really? You don't think that the hand picked expert claim that turns out to be completely false (read the depositions) doesn't prove that these people were lied to?
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Really? You have suspended rational analytical thinking and have fallen head over heels with "flim-flam" Trump. The real victims are the so-called students of Trump "University". They were the victims of the high pressure marketing tactics that cost them $35,000 (not including room and board).
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Trump has been involved in thousands of lawsuits. There are three at present against his Trump University fraud. And yes, right now there is plenty of evidence and good reporting on this particular fraud.
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As your own Charles Blow put it in an Op-Ed, you can't sully a pig nor mock a clown. The only consolation with having Trump as president is rapidly hitting bottom and then having no place to go but up. It's going to be an expensive lesson, though.
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The articles and TV interviews about/with Trump is what this Country is all about. Based on present voting competition between Trump and Clinton we can conclude that roughly 50% of the population are Trump voters thus poverty stricken, low income, low IQ, living day-to-day trash. A song like "America The Beautiful" or National Holidays like "Veterans" or "Memorial" have become fake time killers only to generate sales to get rid of cars or donuts. Indeed Trump is Trash; but let's be fair, all his little tricks obviously came from us from Sea to Shining Sea. We were his teacher. He is a good student.
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And Clinton voters are high minded and well informed? Not for a moment.
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Clinton voter here. I do consider myself high-minded and well-informed. I have assessed both major-party candidates in the race, found both of them wanting, and have decided to cast my vote for the candidate most likely to be able to deliver on their promises and leave a functional nation at the end of 4 or 8 years. It's called pragmatism, and it does not require me to personally approve of the candidate.
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The man is a liar of epic proportion. He seems to be well-versed in the Big Lie technique. Herr Goebbels smiles would have been proud of his star protege.
Let's hope the American public has enough common sense to reject this fraud.
Let's hope the American public has enough common sense to reject this fraud.
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So now that it's obvious to most people why Mr. Trump wanted to keep this information hidden, is anyone really surprised as to why he still refuses to release his taxes?
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Just read the story about Trump's treatment of the press at the recent news conference and, really, that says everything you need to know about the man. He is nowhere near possessed of the character and temperament a position like this demands. Trump is clearly incapable of dealing with people who question his authority. The Today Show was dead nuts on target when they described as someone who closely resembles an African dictator. They too hate the press or anyone who doesn't fawn over them constantly. Does Trump not get that the thing that makes America great (yes, it's still great) is the very thing he hates most - the freedom of the press (or anyone) to question authority? I wonder if he's ever even read the Constitution. People fought and died for those freedoms that he despises so much. People still do, including members of the military he loves to praise so highly.
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We are watching Trump using the hard sell tactics of Trump University" on the American people. If his poll numbers are even remotely correct, he is doing far better than expected. His supporters should look closely at this article a.d be horrified. He defrauded just the people he is promising to help using the same playbook.
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Too bad journalists didn't investigate and run these stories before he got this far.
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I hope Bernie Sanders is reading here.
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Same goes for Clinton.
To all the deluded and desparate Americans who, in their naivete continue to believe that racist huckster and bully boy Trump really cares about them, I would say that they have proven once more that, as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute".
This is not another foolish reality show about the venal and smarmy Kardashians or House Wives. It's about how a big mouth Mussolini wannabe vulgarian thug wearing expensive suits who revels in obnoxious behavior has seduced a pathetic crowd of men and women into buying into his lies. And yes, all politicians lie, but Trump is a master opportunist who changes his lying tune whenever it suits him. He has always been an emotional immature egomaniac sleaze admired by those who think that because is wealthy he is qualified to be whatever suits his fancy. Sadly, that he has become the GOP nominee, says far more about his supporters and the Republican Party, who, like lemmings are falling into line, than Trump himself.
This is not another foolish reality show about the venal and smarmy Kardashians or House Wives. It's about how a big mouth Mussolini wannabe vulgarian thug wearing expensive suits who revels in obnoxious behavior has seduced a pathetic crowd of men and women into buying into his lies. And yes, all politicians lie, but Trump is a master opportunist who changes his lying tune whenever it suits him. He has always been an emotional immature egomaniac sleaze admired by those who think that because is wealthy he is qualified to be whatever suits his fancy. Sadly, that he has become the GOP nominee, says far more about his supporters and the Republican Party, who, like lemmings are falling into line, than Trump himself.
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We are a country of laws.
That's what separates us from the dictator nations we abhor and often send our kids to fight.
No one is above the law.
Richard Nixon found that out just two years after one the largest presidential landslide election victories ever.
Trump is about to learn a big lesson.
The people will stand for just so much before they turn on you. It won't be pretty.
That's what separates us from the dictator nations we abhor and often send our kids to fight.
No one is above the law.
Richard Nixon found that out just two years after one the largest presidential landslide election victories ever.
Trump is about to learn a big lesson.
The people will stand for just so much before they turn on you. It won't be pretty.
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The Trump apologists were out in force earlier this week on the estate deals, as they were when excusing his misogyny a few weeks ago.
I'm sure they are scattered throughout the comments today.
Next up: His business failures that attempted to capitalize on his hame: water, vodka, steaks, clothing. And the apologists will slither to the surface then as well.
What does it take for the delusional Trump supporters acknowledge that this "emperor," even more than George W. Bush, has no clothes. I'm sure it's painful for dyed-in-the-wool Republicans to want to have a candidate they can vote for, but this apparent devotion in the face of the evidence is unhealthy and, to those of us living in the reality-based universe, frightening.
I'm sure they are scattered throughout the comments today.
Next up: His business failures that attempted to capitalize on his hame: water, vodka, steaks, clothing. And the apologists will slither to the surface then as well.
What does it take for the delusional Trump supporters acknowledge that this "emperor," even more than George W. Bush, has no clothes. I'm sure it's painful for dyed-in-the-wool Republicans to want to have a candidate they can vote for, but this apparent devotion in the face of the evidence is unhealthy and, to those of us living in the reality-based universe, frightening.
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Another day, more front page Donald Duck stories. You're playing right into his hands. Who's he running against? He has manipulated the NYT successfully, OR, you are, in fact, supporting his candidacy. No one bothers to read stories anymore, they just click off the name in the headline, as his handlers desire.
This should be obvious.
This should be obvious.
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Mr. Trump has lately been saying "crooked Hillary", now it might be time for "crooked Donald" instead.
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Clinton's crooked dealings are far more damaging to the country.
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why choose just one? It's pretty clear they they are both crooked.
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I would go with "Know Nothing Huckster Donald" myself. Hopefully the Democratic Party is field testing this now.
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It's good to put this article about Trump University into context with the Times' editorial today about Trump and Judge Curiel. The editorial questions whether the American public has become so inundated with Trump's insults, racist remarks, and personal attacks that additional revelations don't matter. Unfortunately that may be the case with Trump's base of support.
How else could anyone explain our Presidential politics devolving into this contemptible, base level of personal, racist, lying, insulting tactics on a day-to-day basis? Nothing seems to bother Trump's hard core base other than a blind hatred of Hillary Clinton--whose misdeeds pale in comparison to Trump's and whose accomplishments, experience, and knowledge are at a level where Trump's don't even register.
How else could anyone explain our Presidential politics devolving into this contemptible, base level of personal, racist, lying, insulting tactics on a day-to-day basis? Nothing seems to bother Trump's hard core base other than a blind hatred of Hillary Clinton--whose misdeeds pale in comparison to Trump's and whose accomplishments, experience, and knowledge are at a level where Trump's don't even register.
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Some (most) of the comments here are amazing. No one promised these people a successful business. Before you write your comments, take a moment to read through the material and see exactly what was promised, aside from hard work. We no longer live in an age where the media types have a strict adherence to ethics and the truth, If you're foolish enough to fork over $35,000 without checking the facts, then you deserve what you get. There are no free lunches in this country, unless you happen to be an Obama patriot and on the government dole. Everyone wants a Rolls Royce and pay the price of a Chevy. Sorry folks, it doesn't work that way.
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So basically, it was the student's fault for believing the lies they were being told, not the fraudster's fault for defrauding the students in the first place? Sounds like a Trump plant to me if I ever heard one.
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Trump lied about hand selecting the instructors, he hired a jewelry sales person to teach real estate sales, he pushed people to max out debt for courses he knew they didn't need, he refused to give refunds as required by law, etc. It was a scam, a con, and a fraud.
The only part of your comment even remotely correct is that if you don't do your fact checking then you deserve what you get. These people got Trump University and you might get a Trump administration. Congratulations, you are one of the people in this article.
The only part of your comment even remotely correct is that if you don't do your fact checking then you deserve what you get. These people got Trump University and you might get a Trump administration. Congratulations, you are one of the people in this article.
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Did you not read the part about the predatory psychological tactics encouraged by the sales guidebook? They basically encouraged swindling of people's resources, capitalizing on psychological vulnerabities to urge people to blow their credit away. It's not just an issue about working hard. The qualifications of the instructors are being called into question.
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Yikes!
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Trump expresses megalomaniacal behaviors.
We need to educate one another about this so that we are not manipulated by him and not motivated by our own inferiority and superiority feelings to vote for Trump. Trump's ways of being a president will be destructive to America.
I beg of you to open your eyes and see how Trump's personal struggles make him the wrong type of person to offer leadership to our liberty and justice for all American democracy.
Trump is judgmental. He discriminates against others. He is self centered.
He employs unreasonable bad judgment. He wants to change the name of our nation to the United States of Trump, adding this to the other grandiose symbols of his subconscious inferiority feelings.
We need to educate one another about this so that we are not manipulated by him and not motivated by our own inferiority and superiority feelings to vote for Trump. Trump's ways of being a president will be destructive to America.
I beg of you to open your eyes and see how Trump's personal struggles make him the wrong type of person to offer leadership to our liberty and justice for all American democracy.
Trump is judgmental. He discriminates against others. He is self centered.
He employs unreasonable bad judgment. He wants to change the name of our nation to the United States of Trump, adding this to the other grandiose symbols of his subconscious inferiority feelings.
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The amount of virtual ink wasted on one personality has gone from simply over the top to the pornographic. To find a single individual that embodies so many negative American stereotypes is itself unbelievable, a caricature of a human being without a soul in a pulp fiction novel.
But it is not about this person. What our propaganda sells as American ideals, Democracy, justice, equality, human dignity, inalienable rights, is not what is really respected, fame, greed and dominance.
Those who criticize a pathetic individual and denigrate the hopes and dreams of his supporters, somehow channeled through his bombast and vulgarity, are seeking their own form of dominance. Nothing says more about the lie of American superiority then feeling superior to other Americans.
One simple question, how do we improve the lives and prospects of all Americans? I enjoy slamming on the Republican nominee as much as anyone else, but I have yet to find the courage to empathize with his supporters. Perhaps if you feel tapped and hopeless. Never going to own a home, have a paid vacation, afford to send my kids to college, never be able to retire, and someone says "Trust me, you'll have a steady job and pension like your folks did, I tell you. We'll build a wall and beat the Chinese. Make America Great Again!" Backed into a corner, this sounds great.
A challenge: Make something sound better ... (that's REAL)
But it is not about this person. What our propaganda sells as American ideals, Democracy, justice, equality, human dignity, inalienable rights, is not what is really respected, fame, greed and dominance.
Those who criticize a pathetic individual and denigrate the hopes and dreams of his supporters, somehow channeled through his bombast and vulgarity, are seeking their own form of dominance. Nothing says more about the lie of American superiority then feeling superior to other Americans.
One simple question, how do we improve the lives and prospects of all Americans? I enjoy slamming on the Republican nominee as much as anyone else, but I have yet to find the courage to empathize with his supporters. Perhaps if you feel tapped and hopeless. Never going to own a home, have a paid vacation, afford to send my kids to college, never be able to retire, and someone says "Trust me, you'll have a steady job and pension like your folks did, I tell you. We'll build a wall and beat the Chinese. Make America Great Again!" Backed into a corner, this sounds great.
A challenge: Make something sound better ... (that's REAL)
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We all used to say Nixon missed his true calling as a used car salesman. Trump has taken this to a much higher level. And it will all end the same if he is elected.
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"Trump University" was never a university in any way, shape, or form. It was a real-estate seminar like so many others in the 80s and 90s. It was a money-making scheme put on by a businessman trying to get even richer. The use of the word "university" was a marketing ploy to separate suckers from their money. And, it worked.
Why do folks in the media seem to have so much trouble understanding that there's a difference between an accredited, academic, degree-granting university and someone just using that word to imply that what they are offering is somehow high-brow, high-value, and "educational"?
Rush Limbaugh has the "Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies." Guess what? It's not a real school, either.
Trump University may have been a scam, but the scam wasn't calling a "university." Anyone could have checked and found it had no accreditation from Easter States or any other accreditation-granting body.
The people who got taken in were victims of their own greed. Trump played to that. Those who paid him did so willingly, because they wanted to get rich quick, too.
Trump isn't to blame here. He was just using a marketing tool. The real blame falls to the so-called victims own greed, which - in the end - was their downfall.
It's all about responsibility and these people want to blame Donald Trump for their own bad decisions.
Caveat emptor. That's Rule Number One. And, these people didn't exercise it. That's their own fault, not Donald Trump's.
Why do folks in the media seem to have so much trouble understanding that there's a difference between an accredited, academic, degree-granting university and someone just using that word to imply that what they are offering is somehow high-brow, high-value, and "educational"?
Rush Limbaugh has the "Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies." Guess what? It's not a real school, either.
Trump University may have been a scam, but the scam wasn't calling a "university." Anyone could have checked and found it had no accreditation from Easter States or any other accreditation-granting body.
The people who got taken in were victims of their own greed. Trump played to that. Those who paid him did so willingly, because they wanted to get rich quick, too.
Trump isn't to blame here. He was just using a marketing tool. The real blame falls to the so-called victims own greed, which - in the end - was their downfall.
It's all about responsibility and these people want to blame Donald Trump for their own bad decisions.
Caveat emptor. That's Rule Number One. And, these people didn't exercise it. That's their own fault, not Donald Trump's.
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Agreed it's a mistake for people to just take a hucksters propaganda for truth without doing some research. But do we really want that man to be our president?
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In my lifetime, I have never witnessed a less-qualified candidate for the presidency than Donald Trump. Besides a fundamental lack of knowledge about how politics works here and abroad, he is a liar, a cheat, a charlatan and, worst of all, a racist. Trump is using the same sales pitch to voters that he used for Trump U. - he'll make your life better, barking out how great things will be if you just turn your assets ( votes in this case ) to him. We should take a cue from his now-defunct show and tell him "You're fired!"
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Here's the great truth about all this: it just doesn't matter. Trump is 100% correct when he says he could shoot someone and not lose a single vote. No one in the mob that is fixing to rule the country cares one bit about Trump U lawsuits. Will reasonable minds prevail? I doubt it more and more every day. The press was too late to the fight and now he has succeeded in branding all his enemies: crooked Hillary; little Marco; lyin Ted; low-energy Jeb -- what's our answer to that? How does a reasonable person defend against that? So far, no one has the answer. No one has the guts to stand up to him. Just think: he called McCain a LOSER and McCain is supporting him? What was the point of his military sacrifice if not to show courage under fire? I'm saying the truth: none of this negative media will stop Trump. Too little, too late-- and not a courageous cat in the bunch.
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Clinton's job now is to spread the word: not to simply tell but to shout the ugly criminal truth about conartist Donald - also known as Con-Don - to every single soul in this country. When Clinton is done with Con-Don everyone in this country must know what kind of man Con-Don Trump is and everyone must help ensure that this country won't be taken over by criminals like him. Everyone must understand that a vote for Con-Don is a vote to elect the mob into the White house. If Clinton is not willing or able to do this job then she neither deserves to be president and Bernie must be the nominee. Because from what I can tell so far he won't hesitate one second to do the job and get rid of filth such as conartist Trump. No Con-Don in the White House!
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The Billions spent on college education and not finding a job from America's education system is ripping off millions of college educated students ?
Why are so many college graduates un-able to find JOBS ???
Maybe the Education system in America is broken and they need to go after Trump to turn the spot light away from their faulty education system.
Why are so many college graduates un-able to find JOBS ???
Maybe the Education system in America is broken and they need to go after Trump to turn the spot light away from their faulty education system.
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Trump is no better, maybe even worse, than for profit schools that subsist on federal educational loans or subprime mortgage lenders and payday loan companies. They all have in common their willingness to prey on ordinary, often vulnerable and economically insecure people, like a vulture pecking at flesh. If it had been you who had been taken advantage of, you would be outraged and feel humiliated. I cannot understand how anyone can consider voting for Trump. And if the answer is, he is direct and honest -- no, he is not. Calling the judge names is not direct and honest. It is a diversion and a distraction from his own fraud and shows yet another, equally ugly aspect of his character.
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Could it be the self-proclaimed "Savior" of America's working class a Con Artist? If Trump University succeeded in making suckers out of American students, one could wonder what Trump would do America, Americans, and the world?
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Although I do not support Mr. Trump and feel he would be a terrible choice for President, it's a stretch to find him directly at fault for the failings of Trump University. He was not the manager or person in charge of running the company. However, this case does cast doubt on his judgement in selecting those who did run the school.
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Thief. Cheater. Man without honor. This is whom the Republican evangelical base supports? Is this good testimony, good testimony for Jesus? That you back not only a racist, misogynist, nativist and neo-fascist, but a man who is a serial cheater, betrayer of wives, a man who boasted of that cheating and boasted of his serial venereal diseases. A man who calls others names, slanders, when Jesus says you are judged not by what goes in to your mouth, but what comes out of it? A man who boasts of his wealth, who has used bankruptcy law to betray and use others? When Jesus says to be wary of Mammon worship, the road to damnation? A man who cheats others, stealing their money and future earnings, who is unrepentant of it? Who then goes to court rather than seek mediation, as Jesus says to? Shame on you so-called evangelicals. You are cultural small "c" christians, with insufficient evidence to convict you of being followers of Christ.
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“We really learned a lot of from Trump University and have found a modicum of success,” wrote another student, Kissy Gordon.
Laughing, the Trumpsters who touted Ms. Gordon's endorsement seem to lack much understanding of the English language.
Laughing, the Trumpsters who touted Ms. Gordon's endorsement seem to lack much understanding of the English language.
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You speak more than a modicum of truth!
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Integrity is an absolutely important character that must be possessed by a person who holds the highest power in the country.
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The next logical question is why would a "real estate billionaire" stoop so low to such a racket? Aside from the questions of right versus wrong, maybe he really is Poor Donald and not worth all the money he constantly proclaims. His self-worth is his bank account......
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I have no doubt that if Trump does win the Presidency, he will falter so spectacularly, his actions will go down in history as this nations worst President. I envision impeachment movements, riots, countries around the world banning his visits, world wide disgust and national embarrassment on a much bigger scale than we see now. I have zero faith in this man's ability to lead and 100% faith that our system of government will eventually prevail.
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fantasize about the future often?
It's not a bad idea, Shoshanna, to consider what may lie ahead--one that Trump's acolytes should try sometime.
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"“Let them know you’ve found an answer to their problems,” read confidential instructions to salespeople." Sounds like don is following the same guidebook in his campaign - prey on the emotions of struggling people, make grandiose promises that he knows or should know he can't keep, all while touting whatever lie or factual mistatement will make a sale, i.e. get a vote. If only the American people could file a class action when he adds the downfall of the US to his list of failed enterprises, and bankruptcies.
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Anyone who views filing for bankruptcy (five times with five different businesses) as a "business decision" is not fit to teach anyone anything much less lead this country.
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While I'm pleased the Times has done a laudable job on exposing "Trump University" (its very name should have dissuaded anyone from enrolling) I am far more concerned with the Clinton Foundation and its alleged bought political influence from foreign governments. Investigate thoroughly and report, please.
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What bothers me the most, is that the leaders of the Republican party, supposedly patriotic Americans, can support Trump. One would believe that they should allow the party to collapse, before they allow a con-man like Trump to assume the presidency. They don't.
Shame on them.
Shame on them.
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Donald Trump is a traitor and an insult to our Bill of Rights, Constitution, history, culture, democracy and economy. He should be placed in stocks and pillared with rotten fruit and dung in the town square, tarred and feathered and rode out of town on a rail to a pier where he will be placed on U.S. ships to spend the rest of his miserable lying life as a "man without a country."
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I never ever thought I would vote for Hillary.
But I will do so (un)enthusiastically to save us from Donald Trump.
I can see world leaders negotiating with Trump, telling him how smart he is and then getting him to sign anything to the detriment of our country. You are so smart and your hands are so big...
But I will do so (un)enthusiastically to save us from Donald Trump.
I can see world leaders negotiating with Trump, telling him how smart he is and then getting him to sign anything to the detriment of our country. You are so smart and your hands are so big...
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A vote from Clinton will not save anyone from anything.
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There is little doubt that these lying, hateful workers know someone who is Mexican.
Trump is a charlatan. He's sold "snake oil" to two former wives, several banks, the news media and now customers of "Trump University." No wonder some of his biggest supporters are people with questionable ethics, like Chris Christie, and Kim Jong Un...
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I love reading these stories but, then again, I'm an NYT subscriber and reader. Me and people like me have been in the choir all along. We know that Trump is a flim-flam man with a paucity of actual self-made business success except as a self-promoter and a celebrity.
Actual Trump supporters aren't reading the NYT, or anything at all. The battle is for the undecideds. I worry whether they're getting the message in these post-literate times.
The only reason there is any race at all is gender. If Mrs. Clinton was a man with the same accomplishments, only the unreachable bigots would be in the Trump camp.
Actual Trump supporters aren't reading the NYT, or anything at all. The battle is for the undecideds. I worry whether they're getting the message in these post-literate times.
The only reason there is any race at all is gender. If Mrs. Clinton was a man with the same accomplishments, only the unreachable bigots would be in the Trump camp.
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Trump's strategy for success here reminds me of an idea on how to make millions of dollars. Write a book called "How to Make Millions", sell to millions of people, and inside are instructions on how to write a book titled "How to Make Millions".
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My grandmother told me there'd be weasels like Trump. And my mom always said that most Americans don't care about anything except where their next beer is coming from. I'm going on 62 years but I realized years ago that both were correct.
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MM, I keep seeing your comments here, like a gnat buzzing around the others'. Did you have something, anything at all, to say about this article's topic?
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No need to say anything. This article preaches to the choir. Hence the vultures circling the easy prey. Did you see Scott Adams on Bill Maher predicting alandslide for Trump.
MM - I'm a big Scott Adams fan but he's not exactly a source for political analysis. BTW, his prediction is founded on the idea that many Americans are gullible and stupid.
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Every thing about Trump screams cult. He has brainwashed his followers (thanks to the generous free 24/7 coverage of the press) with his nonsense that he can fix the world. He has not spoken one word of policy and his blind and deaf followers don't care. He has belittled members of his own party and like beaten and abused puppies they fall in line. When he lies the headline should be TRUMP LIES: AGAIN. Instead we see TRUMP MAKES OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM. Or TRUMP REFUSES TO ADDRESS ISSUE. After his press conference yesterday there is no excuse for the press not to treat him the way he deserves to be treated which is no holds barred stories pointing out he is a lying ego maniac who only cares about power for himself.
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Mr. Trump is right about one thing. Short of, to quote him, "shoot someone outside Trump Tower" he will remain utterly unscathed by all this.
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Proof of Trump's earnest concern for the welfare of the working class.
I keep wondering what's wrong with his supporters. I'm beginning to wonder whether they can read. I'd like to know why they think his kind of 'business management' is going to be good for the country.
I keep wondering what's wrong with his supporters. I'm beginning to wonder whether they can read. I'd like to know why they think his kind of 'business management' is going to be good for the country.
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Please... Hillary did not have an email account.
She had an email server. Set up in her basement. I think the bathroom in her basement, actually.
She migrated her top secret SOS account through that server. A server than didn't contain even the most basic of firewalls for its first forty-five days of operation. Six weeks, during which Secretary Clinton traveled to China, Russia, and Middle East.
When State asked for the emails back, she deleted 30,000 of them. "Nothing to see here." She said. Whoops. SAS documents? An email from Clinton instructing an aide how to strip classifications off of a document so it can be faxed? Intel on a human asset?
She held the public's trust in her hand. She betrayed it. Case closed.
Oh, sorry, this article is about Trump. Boy, that University of his... closing down due to bad business policies. Kind of Burlington in Vermont, no?
She had an email server. Set up in her basement. I think the bathroom in her basement, actually.
She migrated her top secret SOS account through that server. A server than didn't contain even the most basic of firewalls for its first forty-five days of operation. Six weeks, during which Secretary Clinton traveled to China, Russia, and Middle East.
When State asked for the emails back, she deleted 30,000 of them. "Nothing to see here." She said. Whoops. SAS documents? An email from Clinton instructing an aide how to strip classifications off of a document so it can be faxed? Intel on a human asset?
She held the public's trust in her hand. She betrayed it. Case closed.
Oh, sorry, this article is about Trump. Boy, that University of his... closing down due to bad business policies. Kind of Burlington in Vermont, no?
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You make a strong case. Had the republicans nominated any of their qualified moderates (Rubio, Bush, Kasich), he would have my vote.
However, the GOP chose to nominate a reality show nutcase. Therefore, I vote for Hillary.
Hope we have a better choice in four years.
However, the GOP chose to nominate a reality show nutcase. Therefore, I vote for Hillary.
Hope we have a better choice in four years.
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Greg - What on earth gave you the idea that Rubio, Bush et al were moderates?
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Have you actually read these emails? Seen any transcripts of them? Until you read these emails, quit making insinuations about their content. The journalists who are reading the emails are reporting that they are mostly personal emails to friends or acquaintances -- birthday congratulations, letters of condolence, etc.
Both Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice used personal email servers and nobody heard a peep from anyone about that. It all smacks of more Republican witch hunts, of which we are all heartily sick and tired. Congress needs to start doing something useful besides conducting one politcally motivated "investigation" after another, wasting everyone's time and lots of taxpayer money.
Both Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice used personal email servers and nobody heard a peep from anyone about that. It all smacks of more Republican witch hunts, of which we are all heartily sick and tired. Congress needs to start doing something useful besides conducting one politcally motivated "investigation" after another, wasting everyone's time and lots of taxpayer money.
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Apparently Donald Trump has graduated from scamming thousands at his Trump "University" to scamming millions of American voters.
Trump is a hateful, racist, dangerous, thieving, psychopathic liar and scam artist. Isn't that enough to disqualify him from being President of the United States--the most important job in the entire world?! This joke really isn't funny anymore.
Trump is a hateful, racist, dangerous, thieving, psychopathic liar and scam artist. Isn't that enough to disqualify him from being President of the United States--the most important job in the entire world?! This joke really isn't funny anymore.
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I am neither a US citizen nor do I live in the US. However, as someone who has been closely following US politics, I find it perplexing that so many rational Americans would seriously consider this dangerous man (Donald Trump) to be their leader for at least the next four years. I think the famous statement and provocative poem written by Pastor Martin Niemöller is a good reminder for those who are either apathetic or do not care about the 2016 presidential election.
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”
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It was no surprise that all of the comments I have read so far (ok, far fewer than the total number of comments here) are absolutely negative about Trump. Any one reading this article and the accompanying comments would run away from Trump at full speed.
But alas. The people who support Trump do not read NYT articles or the comments that NYT readers make. So we are preaching to the choir.
But alas. The people who support Trump do not read NYT articles or the comments that NYT readers make. So we are preaching to the choir.
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It's almost as though the press only publishes stories that someone has leaked. Trump's history of taking advantage or people (also known as stealing their money) goes way beyond Trump University. Most people who know anything about MLM know that 94% never even earn back the money they were first required to pay. That hasn't stopped Trump from promoting ACN, a business phone MLM or The Trump Network, a vitamin and supplest MLM both now defunct. I'm sure all participants signed up because they were told of Trumps personnel involvement and then all were disappointed. There were some smart, considerate people involved in these companies and were told lie after lie after lie. Cmon folks, call your newspapers and tell them your stories, Now Trump is lying to the entire country about virtually everything and he just may get his 51%.
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Remember Oliver Twist? Captured and taught to be a pick-pocket? Trump didn't enslave anyone, except to their credit card companies. But sure as shooting, he strong-armed faculty into scamming students and the had the faculty strong-arm students into writing positive recommendations for his scam! Also, what were students taught? How to pick pockets, just as theirs had been picked.
Welcome to an education in Criminality by a criminal for-profit enterprise!
"What a revolting devopment!" As my dad used to say. He'd have called Trump a "Fathead!"
Welcome to an education in Criminality by a criminal for-profit enterprise!
"What a revolting devopment!" As my dad used to say. He'd have called Trump a "Fathead!"
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Trump believes that he is better than everyone else and doesn't have to adhere to standards of human decency or morals. Anyone who questions his authority is subject to ridicule and contempt--including judges. Trump is a very dangerous man who should never get near the White House. He is exactly what the type of person who founders were trying to protect us from with separation of powers. If he gets elected, we can kiss our cherished country and its rule of laws good-bye.
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Ironic. This is the same sales pitch he's making to disenfranchised and disappointed Americans now, when he tells us we're going to "make America great again." And the business plan for that project seems to be...well, there isn't one. It's simply a pitch to the emotionally downtrodden. When an individual willfully ignores the evidence (or lack of evidence) to be drawn into a spectacular business scheme which promises salvation, it probably indicates that they are in a state of deep fear and despondency. There will always be snake oil salesmen who manipulate people's hopelessness and despair for profit. That is troubling of course. What's troubling about Trump is that he's selling his snake oil to almost half the country. There's a whole lot of hopelessness and despair out there to be exploited. Fingers crossed that America doesn't max out her credit cards to attend a presidency that doesn't deliver.
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It is pathetic that the dishonest media is going after Trump. Why don't they go after Hillary who did put the security of this country at risk by hosting a private e-mail server in her home. When asked Hillary cleverly answer on the private e-mail saying others had used it! What a dishonest woman! Nobody had a private e-mail server. This clearly shows this woman is dishonest and untrustworthy! No more Clintons! Private e-mail server means she should be barred from holding any office!
You are right.
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Deflect, deflect, deflect. Try defending your boy on his own merits. Can't be done. BAD!
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How any objective observer who looks at this lawsuit and concludes that Trump University was anything but a scam is mind-boggling. And, it's not a political issue. Trump used his name to convince people who wanted to try to make some money for themselves to buy useless real estate sales techniques and marketing materials they could have obtained for free from the public library.
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How is this man still a candidate?
If ANY candidate on the left running for ANY government office had said and done the things that Trump has said and done, right wing conservatives, Fox News, Rush, Roger Ailes, Republicans, reborn Christians, etc. would go berzerk. We would never hear the end of it. And yet here we are. I am horrified for the future of my country, horrified that there are people who support this demagogue, horrified that the media has elevated him and covered him far more than any other candidate in order to satisfy its owners and shareholders, and sickened that the GOP is lining up behind him because it would rather win than acknowledge the mess the Republican party has created for itself and for America.
Just imagine what the fallout would be were this Obama University or Hillary University. The country would be in flames.
If ANY candidate on the left running for ANY government office had said and done the things that Trump has said and done, right wing conservatives, Fox News, Rush, Roger Ailes, Republicans, reborn Christians, etc. would go berzerk. We would never hear the end of it. And yet here we are. I am horrified for the future of my country, horrified that there are people who support this demagogue, horrified that the media has elevated him and covered him far more than any other candidate in order to satisfy its owners and shareholders, and sickened that the GOP is lining up behind him because it would rather win than acknowledge the mess the Republican party has created for itself and for America.
Just imagine what the fallout would be were this Obama University or Hillary University. The country would be in flames.
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Mr. Trump is a businessman. The bottom line is what is most important. I'm sure high pressuer tactics were put on people to sign, but I'm not sure it was illegal. Having said that It amaises me how the American people interpit rude crass and obnoxious as Tough. People are flocking to Trump who has no Idea what his policies will be, I'm a liberal in my thinking, but Mr. Trumps deminor on the stump insults the office of the President. Is America and the world ready for a thin skin President who will use insulting and crass words against those who disagree with him?
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This article merely confirms what his fellow Presidential candidates in the Republican Party, past and present, have said about him. Our next President could very well be the resurrection of PT Barnum.
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It is time for the media to stop showing up to Trump press conferences and to start limiting his coverage to once a week. Make it one long article and be done with it. The media is being played by him, and they need to stand up to him by ignoring his daily rants. All the media needs to get together on this.
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One of a bazillion reasons why Trump should NEVER be President nor elected to any office. Trump should not be allowed to own any more companies. Compared to Trump, Richard M. Nixon is looking pretty darn honest right now. Trump values nothing except his own ego.
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What is amazing to me is how so many people do not understand Trump's nature (con man) or worse, are so angry or apathetic about our government that they don't care if a con man becomes President.
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Is anything here in this article worse than the things that the last few Presidents have done? This is nothing compared to the wars and economy. This "University" was a made possible as a direct result of economic mismanagement by the last 2 administrations.
Even if you believe that to be true, that makes Trump little better than the people who race in at the latest scam or disaster to make the situation even worse for the victims by taking away what little they have left. Like the so-called credit counselors who charge exorbitant fees and who never had any intent or ability to lessen your debt, or people who falsely promised Katrina victims to help find relief for a fee. Why the natural response to a man who kicks people when they are down would be to elect him president is completely beyond my understanding.
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You can surely get through a day without food, though never one without a rationalization ... This one's a mendacious doozy.
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Seriously? For the people who were conned, this is their economy. Do you really think it's OK to cheat and steal as long as no one is killed?
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"and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.” Change "the elderly" to "poor whites" and replace the word "money" with "vote" and you have a perfect description of the Trump election strategy. It's the same snake oil salesman selling a different type of snake oil.
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The Trump "University" con is nothing compared to the con perpetrated by our country's institutions of higher learning who charge students outrageous sums of money for their educations and leave their graduates impoverished for years trying to pay off their loans.
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Dean, while your point may be true it is inapposite. "Our country's institutions of higher learning" are not about to be nominated by the Republican Party as its candidate for the Presidency, and will not appear on the ballot in November.
All these Tea Party people think Trump will take care of them. Well he will; just like he took care of the young couple struggling financially by removing their money and putting it in his pocket when he shifts the middle classes money even more to the .01%.
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Trump University is a blueprint for a Trump administration. Beside making deception claims (which Trump is doing on a daily basis), we expect Trump to run his administration like an unscrupulous business staffed it with unqualified people.
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Sine I do no think this behavior is unique --I am awaiting more details on his real estate deals and how he treated his business partners on deals like the GM Building -- I think there is a lot more to come out on his behavior -- and not flattering
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The real estate education offered by Trump is not much different than many other schools offering real estate courses. The legal process will ultimately determine whether the marketing of the courses was done fraudulently as defined in the law. Until that is determined, polarized opinions will be made based on whether people support Clinton or Trump for President. For some of us, either choice is profoundly disappointing.
Along with Trump University, perhaps we should also be questioning the integrity of many state universities that offer meaningless degrees that have the word "Studies" in them or allow students that really cannot read, write or understand basic math to be admitted and pay high tuition rates and be mislead into believing that they are going to be employable after completing their meaningless degree.
Trump University may or may not have been marketed fraudulently, however, colleges all over the USA take thousands of dollars a year from students who do not have the skills to complete college level work. For the nation, that is a much bigger problem than Trump University.
Along with Trump University, perhaps we should also be questioning the integrity of many state universities that offer meaningless degrees that have the word "Studies" in them or allow students that really cannot read, write or understand basic math to be admitted and pay high tuition rates and be mislead into believing that they are going to be employable after completing their meaningless degree.
Trump University may or may not have been marketed fraudulently, however, colleges all over the USA take thousands of dollars a year from students who do not have the skills to complete college level work. For the nation, that is a much bigger problem than Trump University.
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Donald Trump may be trying to force the current judge to recuse himself, or demand other changes because of the "adverse publicity" that he is single handedly responsible for.
I do find his marketing playbook interesting. It probably borrows from other marketing booklet, but he seems to follow the same approach to seal the deal with his supporters.
I do find his marketing playbook interesting. It probably borrows from other marketing booklet, but he seems to follow the same approach to seal the deal with his supporters.
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What happened to the couple who took the course? The couple the salesman thought couldn't afford it?
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Trump is one of the few people who don't mind getting caught with a lie. How does he get out of that situation? Make up more stuff. It is amazing watching him spilling his venom on reporters yesterday. One wonders whether he knew he was the biggest liar in the room.
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All For Profit Colleges are a lie and a scheme. You pay all the money upfront and what incentive would they have to teach or offer retention programs? none.
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How do you defend D. TRUMP? How do you explain to a child that it is ok to misrepresent the facts , a child may say lying ,steal from people . How do you do that? I cannot come up with one valid thought or reason that could or would explain Trumps actions or behaviour . When can we return to the days that the truth or the facts did not need to be explained ?
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I believe references to 'his wisdom' should be in quotes. Also, reference to Mr. Trump using the word 'wise' should be immediately followed by the more common name for one's posterior.
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If you want to see what America will look like under the rule of Trump, take a good look at the stories about Venezuela. That is our future if Trump is elected. That is what happens when someone with great slogans but no experience gets elected. We should be very afraid.
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Hillary needs a new campaign slogan, He Lied Again!
Simple, catchy, to the point.
There is an endless supply of material to prove that, He Lied Again!
Eventually it will hopefully become apparent to Trump supporters that he lies pretty much all the time and that maybe that is not a level of dishonesty they'd like in their President.
To those who'd respond that Hillary lies too, take note that all politicians lie, and it's a question of degrees. Hillary lies far less, is eminently far more qualified, and is actually intelligent.
Simple, catchy, to the point.
There is an endless supply of material to prove that, He Lied Again!
Eventually it will hopefully become apparent to Trump supporters that he lies pretty much all the time and that maybe that is not a level of dishonesty they'd like in their President.
To those who'd respond that Hillary lies too, take note that all politicians lie, and it's a question of degrees. Hillary lies far less, is eminently far more qualified, and is actually intelligent.
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And any of this is surprising?
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Hitlers violent plans were well known to the people who democratically elected him.
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Self-promoting con artist.
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His kids must be so proud.
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He taught them everything they need to know.
Now, they kill beautiful wild animals for trophies.
Now, they kill beautiful wild animals for trophies.
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trumps very existence in the race is an insult to the office he seeks. He has been a duplicitous sleazy con man with no experience, no understanding of any aspect of the office he seeks. By thinking he has the ability with nothing to back it he is saying that he thinks being the President of the United States is easier than selling cheap steak or conning people in a sham "university."
This is the office of Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt, Kennedy. It is not a game show. not a crass carnival. It is the office of the leader of the free world. As such, a petulant child who throws tantrums and knows zero should never be considered as even a possibility.
trump is like a sleazier more corrupt version of Nixon, but with zero understanding of politics, policy, or the world. He is a national and international disgrace, and as with all his business ventures, he is a loser. Any who walk with him will be stained forever.
This is the office of Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt, Kennedy. It is not a game show. not a crass carnival. It is the office of the leader of the free world. As such, a petulant child who throws tantrums and knows zero should never be considered as even a possibility.
trump is like a sleazier more corrupt version of Nixon, but with zero understanding of politics, policy, or the world. He is a national and international disgrace, and as with all his business ventures, he is a loser. Any who walk with him will be stained forever.
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This incredible tremendous person can end drought in the western states. He can resurrect dying industries. He can create jobs. can we make him King now? He's just so great in a fantastic way. Unbelievable!
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Though, he's a bit ham-handed on foreign policy, but
he's "looking into it."
he's "looking into it."
And how many people did Trump's employees drag in off the street and force to take these courses?
How many people pay hundreds of thousands to accredited universities for degrees that provide no job skills?
How many law schools keep admitting students when only half of recent grads can find jobs?
How many Ph.D. programs keep admitting students in disciplines where there are few if any tenure track jobs available?
How many people do corporations send to diversity and leadership training courses when there is no evidence these type of training programs do anything -- and then pass the costs on to consumers?
How many people buy cars because of high pressure sales tactics -- cars they may not be able to afford.
How many people buy consumer products they don't need (and put them on a credit card) due to sales and marketing tactics?
How many self help and get rich through (investing, sales, you name it) books are sold each year -- and how many people attend such seminars.
And how many degrees -- from the doctoral level and down -- are granted from on-line schools?
How many employed people are convinced to go to local MBA schools because it will build their careers?
I'm not defending Trump -- but weren't most of these people adults? And isn't the link between what education providers promise and what they can deliver often tenuous at best?
How many people pay hundreds of thousands to accredited universities for degrees that provide no job skills?
How many law schools keep admitting students when only half of recent grads can find jobs?
How many Ph.D. programs keep admitting students in disciplines where there are few if any tenure track jobs available?
How many people do corporations send to diversity and leadership training courses when there is no evidence these type of training programs do anything -- and then pass the costs on to consumers?
How many people buy cars because of high pressure sales tactics -- cars they may not be able to afford.
How many people buy consumer products they don't need (and put them on a credit card) due to sales and marketing tactics?
How many self help and get rich through (investing, sales, you name it) books are sold each year -- and how many people attend such seminars.
And how many degrees -- from the doctoral level and down -- are granted from on-line schools?
How many employed people are convinced to go to local MBA schools because it will build their careers?
I'm not defending Trump -- but weren't most of these people adults? And isn't the link between what education providers promise and what they can deliver often tenuous at best?
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Ralphie- in many of the instances you note above, you refer to "accredited universities". Trump university was neither a university or accredited. The business was warned by the state's education department that it was violating state law by calling itself a university, but continued to do business under that name for five years.
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Farmer's insurance runs a commercial where they refer to "University of Farmers" -- they, like others, use the term somewhat euphemistically, Trump U never claimed to be an accredited U or to offer college credits.
A scam from front to back. Stop trying to pretend it was anything but. There are many others here in San Diego which are nothing more than "diploma mills." His name was on the door, Prosecute!
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Trump's hairdo is a scheme. What else can be said about this man? What is sad is the complete and total coverage of his every word, every stupid, inane mush-mouth utterance. may this election come quickly. Vote! Vote! Vote him out of the newspapers forever.
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8 mentions of Trump on current site front page
0 mentions of Hillary
Trump this, Trump that. Trump good, Trump bad. But at the end of the day, it's all Trump, all the time and Hillary faaaades into obscurity. Keep it up the good work NYT. We Republicans will thank you November time.
0 mentions of Hillary
Trump this, Trump that. Trump good, Trump bad. But at the end of the day, it's all Trump, all the time and Hillary faaaades into obscurity. Keep it up the good work NYT. We Republicans will thank you November time.
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Thank the NYT for what? Helping to defeat Trump and save the GOP from further embarrassment perhaps?
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To paraphrase another: Poor Donald - He was born with a silver foot in his mouth. And he's got a risky scheme a minute running almost everywhere just to make a buck. And as he runs for President, he gets even more publicity and his trademark name expands even more. It's a winning combination for poor Donald - the risky scheme a minute guy.
On a few occasions, Poor Donald gets viciously mauled, like with the MSNBC Chris Matthews interview where He quite frankly came off like a little child showing his ignorance stammering about abortion next to Mr. Matthews. In reality, He just can't stand the heat and he really should get out off the kitchen.
So is anyone here really shocked about Trump University? It was just as much a risky Trump scheme as one of his casinos that ultimately went bankrupt. Trump really is a little boy playing in the adult world of politics - and Chris Matthews clearly showed us all too clearly as Trump turned into a child on TV.
On a few occasions, Poor Donald gets viciously mauled, like with the MSNBC Chris Matthews interview where He quite frankly came off like a little child showing his ignorance stammering about abortion next to Mr. Matthews. In reality, He just can't stand the heat and he really should get out off the kitchen.
So is anyone here really shocked about Trump University? It was just as much a risky Trump scheme as one of his casinos that ultimately went bankrupt. Trump really is a little boy playing in the adult world of politics - and Chris Matthews clearly showed us all too clearly as Trump turned into a child on TV.
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Ann Richards.
Former, now-deceased Governor of Texas of "Poor George ...." fame.
Her daughter is Cecile Richards, President of Planned Parenthood.
Former, now-deceased Governor of Texas of "Poor George ...." fame.
Her daughter is Cecile Richards, President of Planned Parenthood.
In some darkly perverse American universe, if Donald Trump does get elected President this fall, the Democrats (and in a rare bipartisan effort, many Republicans) will impeach this corrupt man in his first term. So beware of his VP pick and potential successor.
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Trump is simply disgusting. Remember all that support him for revenge later
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Wood1 I dont think your dislike is unjustified, but I know that those of us that are sick of Trump and what he represents including you, want a better America for all, included those misguided souls, I have a hard time not keeping a list but It's not worth it. My best to you and certainly pray that sanity will prevail and he will be defeated in a landslide
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It should amaze me that people still fall for these pitches, but it doesn't. Conmen prey on people when they are at their weakest point. The instruction to "bring them back to that point in their lives", is a clear cut, time tested con strategy.
Trump U was designed to separate people from their money.
Trump U was designed to separate people from their money.
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The same arguments are being made at nearly every college in the nation. Where college graduates have $100,000 in student debts and no job.
How is this different?
How is this different?
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There is no equivalence.
College grads do indeed get jobs, earn greater incomes over a lifetime, and can often converse in multiple languages.
Mr. Trump is an exception, of course. He doesn't "earn" anything, build anything meaningful, contribute to any conversation, and he can barely speak the English language. But by, can he sell baloney.
College grads do indeed get jobs, earn greater incomes over a lifetime, and can often converse in multiple languages.
Mr. Trump is an exception, of course. He doesn't "earn" anything, build anything meaningful, contribute to any conversation, and he can barely speak the English language. But by, can he sell baloney.
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So you're saying that two wrongs make it right?
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Those Trump supporters who take pleasure in his outrageous and despicable words and behavior are infected with The Don's same sociopathic traits. They cheer his lack of boundaries. They champion his outrageous claims. They thirst for blood.
Such were the crowds who cheered on the Fench Revolution's turn to beheading its opponents on an industrial scale.
Donald Trump is unable to weather criticism. Our test, as a nation, is whether we demand his "head" (via the ballot) or he demands ours (the lives and reputations of those of us who "out" and resist his perfidy).
Now is the time to sort the cowards (bending to the will of a Despot) from the Brave (who stand and resist him).
This a Test! A test of moral fiber.
The Press cannot get this wrong!
Such were the crowds who cheered on the Fench Revolution's turn to beheading its opponents on an industrial scale.
Donald Trump is unable to weather criticism. Our test, as a nation, is whether we demand his "head" (via the ballot) or he demands ours (the lives and reputations of those of us who "out" and resist his perfidy).
Now is the time to sort the cowards (bending to the will of a Despot) from the Brave (who stand and resist him).
This a Test! A test of moral fiber.
The Press cannot get this wrong!
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What is even sadder is the resemblance of these sales scripts to those used by the University of Phoenix, to the financial detriment of their students and the enrichment of Goldman Sachs, part owner of the parent company. Donald Trump is just the latest and most patently vulgar representative of that group of people for whom their own enrichment "Trumps" all ethical concerns.
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Trump is using his Trump University model to dupe everyone from vets to the uneducated to Republican congressmen to white supremacists to Rolling Thunder. Thanks, America.
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The judge gave Trump a break by scheduling the trial after the election. No breaks for Hillary. How is the judge repaid for his fairness? By a racist, ranting rhetorical assault on the judge' s integrity and a call for him to be investigated. The judge should have scheduled the case for trial in August.
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The REAL crime of the Republican garbage vultures is turning every institute of higher learning in America into Trump University.
Increasingly, the only field in which any jobs exist for graduates is business. They can become the next Donald Trump/Bernie Madoff/Al Capone/Larry Summers/Meyer Lansky/Lloyd Blankfein/El Chapo/Take your pick.
For those pursuing a scientific career (let alone, anything at all in the humanities, which barely still exist), a future of low pay and dire uncertainty awaits.
Increasingly, the only field in which any jobs exist for graduates is business. They can become the next Donald Trump/Bernie Madoff/Al Capone/Larry Summers/Meyer Lansky/Lloyd Blankfein/El Chapo/Take your pick.
For those pursuing a scientific career (let alone, anything at all in the humanities, which barely still exist), a future of low pay and dire uncertainty awaits.
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Scam. Everything Trump does is a scam--consistently smoke and mirrors with no substance behind it. He has solved his financial problems by declaring bankruptsy (and you can't do that as POTUS); solved marital woes through divorce; silenced critics and those he has exploited by threats to sue them; paid no taxes last time his returns were made public and claimed millions of dollars deficit instead of the $200 million he said he had at teh time; blamed U.S. social problems on people of color and immigrants (not economics, public policy, etc.). He has exploited every avenue possible for his advantage at the expense of others. Trump is a fraud, a phony, and an empty suit.
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Trump's DNA is all twisted up Lies and Schemes and so little else. I can barely read about the pompous blowhard - and his fans, eegads - any more. Put him in a novel and take him out of our reality, please. I will stop reading about him...now. I'd rather watch the birds, walk in the woods. Then again I would also rather bump into a bear or hit my foot with a sharp axe, then think about this American monstrosity any more.
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After watching Trump's news conference yesterday about his supposed Veteran donations, I've concluded that he's rapidly becoming un-glued.
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good coverage, though this has been addressed before.
Why not provide a good investigative report about how Trump destroyed the USFL [united states football league] after buying in as an owner of ny generals.
espn created a good documentary about this in their 30 for 30 series, for reference.
Why not provide a good investigative report about how Trump destroyed the USFL [united states football league] after buying in as an owner of ny generals.
espn created a good documentary about this in their 30 for 30 series, for reference.
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"Lawyers for Mr. Trump on Tuesday challenged those characterizations, saying that the testimony of the former Trump University employees “was completely discredited” in depositions taken for the California lawsuit. Lawyers for Mr. Trump declined to release those depositions on Tuesday."
Now that this REPUBLICAN is making a move to swindle the entire country, his lawyers have to double up on their lying. tRUMP U.....just another DEFUNCT con game by a notorious con man-child. If it would not be so extremely dangerous for him to become president, I'd love to witness him blow the Republican party into oblivion due to the disaster. Of course, that should have been the case in 2004 after the 2000 installation of that other republican.
Now that this REPUBLICAN is making a move to swindle the entire country, his lawyers have to double up on their lying. tRUMP U.....just another DEFUNCT con game by a notorious con man-child. If it would not be so extremely dangerous for him to become president, I'd love to witness him blow the Republican party into oblivion due to the disaster. Of course, that should have been the case in 2004 after the 2000 installation of that other republican.
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In re a tag to hang on Trump, how about "The Art of the Con?"
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Trump U. promotions remind me of Tom Vu and his ads showing him aboard a boat with women in bikinis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Vu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Vu
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To me his whole campaign is a lot more marketing to fool the gullible rather than substance. And Trump seems to be more interested in attacking other than tell us about his policies
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Trump needs to end is run to be the Pres. There is no way this guy can be the President of our country!
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Since CNN decided to become Mr. Trump's PR agent and broadcast his propaganda 24/7 mainly for ratings if they and other 'news' networks are going to do their due diligence and investigate these claims against Trump University. I think not, but to me, this alone disqualifies him for running for the highest office in the land.
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So does Whitewater disqualify Hillary?
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So once again we have over 2,500 readers recommending a comment wherein the poster expresses his astonishment that anyone could view the Donald as a qualified candidate. Message from Flyoverville: THEY DON'T! To wit, a recent article in the Guardian quoted a man in Kentucky thusly (and I paraphrase): "Trump is nuts! I just can't wait to see what he does in office!" Get it now Portland? They are sending him to Washington to break Washington! They hate Washington. They were betrayed by Bush and his multi-trillion dollar fiasco in Iraq (to which I might add, they contributed an awful lot of young men), and they hate Obama for, well that's not entirely clear, though the death-spiraling ACA, plus the fact that he presents like the university law professor he used to be, seem to have something to do with it. Trump is a living, breathing, political hand-grenade. He's a poison pen letter to the political class. His lack of qualifications and all around general loathsomeness are the point! And had a WWF performer been on the podium for the GOP debates instead of Trump, same thing woulda happened.
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We need first person narratives of people who have been stepped on and squashed by his unquenchable greed to make these "spite" voters see what they would be bringing on themselves.
Living in England, I have always experienced a little 'we are better than thou' routine. I would say that they are Republicans. And I was ecstatic when Obama was made president because I no longer had to endure the onslaughts that came with the Bush presidency. Obama provided damage control to the destroyed image of the USA by Bush and his cronies.
But, sadly, with Trump and his lying bag of tricks becoming the star Republican this year makes it impossible to believe that the onslaught is over.
Trump is a travesty. How could any sane country want him at the helm? The onslaught will continue.
Are we really the inhumane country with which a lot of the world views us?
When we call ourselves Christian why is it that European atheists cringe and say, "Well that is what belief gets you."
The leader of the free world lives is a cowering, gun-toting society, who fight against healthcare for themselves and others and who don't believe in global warming or evolution.
And it is the Republican party which has created the Darwinian world in which we inhabit - a theory that is real and not just something that they do not believe.
Trump is the Republican brand. He is Limbaugh and Fox News. He is Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. He is the gun toters and racists. Victim and aggressor, Trump is the appropriate figurehead of a party that is anything but Christian.
Republicans, you cannot make a pact with the devil and keep yourself clean.
Trump is not a good man!
But, sadly, with Trump and his lying bag of tricks becoming the star Republican this year makes it impossible to believe that the onslaught is over.
Trump is a travesty. How could any sane country want him at the helm? The onslaught will continue.
Are we really the inhumane country with which a lot of the world views us?
When we call ourselves Christian why is it that European atheists cringe and say, "Well that is what belief gets you."
The leader of the free world lives is a cowering, gun-toting society, who fight against healthcare for themselves and others and who don't believe in global warming or evolution.
And it is the Republican party which has created the Darwinian world in which we inhabit - a theory that is real and not just something that they do not believe.
Trump is the Republican brand. He is Limbaugh and Fox News. He is Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. He is the gun toters and racists. Victim and aggressor, Trump is the appropriate figurehead of a party that is anything but Christian.
Republicans, you cannot make a pact with the devil and keep yourself clean.
Trump is not a good man!
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Great the ilk that wants the UK to be in the EU has spent his .02, ok now shut up and worry about your own country as it becomes a sharia controlled state!
By his own admission, he has never confessed nor apologized to God for anything he has done.
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If Trump University was certified by the NY Board of Regents, shame on it.
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If this is not the smoking gun that should shock Americans into the reality of Donald Trump as the ultimate snake oil salesman and sleaze bag of the century, I do not know what it will take?! To prey on the elderly and most vulnerable is straight out ot P.T. Barnum`s maxim...There is a sucker born every minute; and my job is to exploit them for every penny I can. The time for a reality check has LONG past; it just shocks those around the world that Americans cannot see this sad excuse for a man for what he is. Talk about the Emperor has no clothes!! Then again it took a child to speak the TRUTH in the fable; as the adults were the cowards/ imbeciles in the morality play!
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Hate to tell you this is no more a smoking gun than any direct marketing training for every company that does it! There is not one single thing listed that every direct sales company doesn't push their sellers to try. Car salesman, appliances heck even knives by phone all use high pressure sales, let the consumer buy and sort out their own bills. Everyone of you condemning TU training and a few salespeople ( who likely didn't make the cut and were canned) yet go to see movies like Wall Street and cheer the bad guy are only conning yourselfs. These manuals are standard practice, the weight they have as evidence will be blown out of the water when sales manuals from 20 other companies you use and support will show the exact or worse tactics......you are nothing but agenda ranting and look so pathetic in doing it!
Trump should be occupying a cell with Bernie Madoff. Instead, he is running for the highest office in this land. What does that tell you?
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Even if the man is running for President of the United States, I'm surprised that a judge would put up with Trump's contemptuous and racist remarks concerning his credentials. Does anyone want a President with zero respect for even the judiciary?
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Neither “The Art of the Deal” or “Trump U” is about being benevolent or making "fair" deals, but rather about separating people from their money. I don't have any sympathy for anyone who would sign up for such a course, nor the party that has embraced his racist/misogynistic views. Unlike his former students, Republicans won't be able to sue for damages. Crash and burn.
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Please don't withhold my comment, then release it, after I have edited and resubmitted it, thinking the first comment wasn't approved by moderators, because you printed the edited comment first. It's a very opportunistic way to try and make someone you may not agree with look bad.
Grace, nice post. But you might want to know that the quote is from H.L. Mencken. P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute."
Exactly why "success" (becoming rich) in business has absolutely nothing to do with running a nation like the US. If his goal were to enrich himself by defrauding and abusing some third-world country, then he's got the perfect resume.
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Fool me once, Trump University; Fool me twice, Trump Presidency?
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In supporting Trump, Republicans show that their party's moral depravity has no bounds. It's as simple, and pathetic, as that.
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Why do we make such a big deal of what some call 'little mistakes'? Mr. Trump's passing acquaintance with the truth is a close partner to his competence which seems to fade with each emerging fact. Remember the President who said "I did not have sex with that woman." What about the guy who spent a short time around being voted in a Speaker of the House. He discovered some marital infidelities and surrendered the job. I suspect that he had a condition called Fear of Larry Flyndt. What about the distinguished Senator who had a colleague in the Congress, an Exterminator who left Congress to take care of some legal matters. Did not these guys use a publication of the White Citizens Council (the kkk) to extol their election manifestos? There are far too many of our so called leaders whom I think are allowed to pander by any means necessary, including dancing with otherwise cavorting with dishonesty. "That's politics"! is good enough for them and it should be good enough for Trump until he gets caught doing the equivalent of commandeering a Federal vehicle to retrieve thousands of dollars of bribe money from his freezer while his constituents tread water in the Bayou. He is entitled to being extremely guilty until proven to be so.
As he blusters and worse, threatens while wincing at the sound of corn popping, brags about his farmyard ethics and rises to the top of his Party's pile, why should we be surprised. Is not that the American way?
As he blusters and worse, threatens while wincing at the sound of corn popping, brags about his farmyard ethics and rises to the top of his Party's pile, why should we be surprised. Is not that the American way?
"...an unscrupulous business that relied on high-pressure sales tactics, employed unqualified instructors, made deceptive claims and exploited vulnerable students willing to pay tens of thousands ..."
Sounds exactly like most American colleges and universities today.
Sounds exactly like most American colleges and universities today.
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So ... what's new? Anyone paying attention knows that Trump has had many failures (especially if you lived in NJ when he was the leading owner of bankrupt casinos in Atlantic City). His "success" in real estate is largely illusory. Anyone can be successful if they started with his father's money and contacts in one of the most consistently good markets in the US. It is an accident of birth not business acumen.
We MUST see his tax returns, though, to determine how much actual success he has had. It will also show his losses, his manipulations, and his businesses. How can anyone vote for a candidate without knowing anything but their public persona? Clinton has had to open her background up and I doubt there is anyone on the planet about whom we know more. She is not perfect, but the only legitimate issue outstanding is use of emails.
If the emails are her only problem, consider what Trump's view of having to use only the White House email server would be and ask yourself why it is even relevant between the two. At some point, we as voters need to consider the character of a guy who only abuses anyone who doesn't agree with them. He thinks the judge is Mexican? How is that relevant and not just a bigoted statement? It defines his utter lack of morality or character. I wonder how the religious right will support the guy? If we elect him, we have nobody to blame but ourselves for what happens next.
We MUST see his tax returns, though, to determine how much actual success he has had. It will also show his losses, his manipulations, and his businesses. How can anyone vote for a candidate without knowing anything but their public persona? Clinton has had to open her background up and I doubt there is anyone on the planet about whom we know more. She is not perfect, but the only legitimate issue outstanding is use of emails.
If the emails are her only problem, consider what Trump's view of having to use only the White House email server would be and ask yourself why it is even relevant between the two. At some point, we as voters need to consider the character of a guy who only abuses anyone who doesn't agree with them. He thinks the judge is Mexican? How is that relevant and not just a bigoted statement? It defines his utter lack of morality or character. I wonder how the religious right will support the guy? If we elect him, we have nobody to blame but ourselves for what happens next.
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This is a window into Donald Trump’s character (or lack of it). Trump University shows in bright relief Mr. Trump’s ways of dealing with people (he exploits people’s fears, anger and greed and then he extorts money … and votes …from them) and his goals and objectives for any project he undertakes (he wants to get what he wants for himself no matter the cost to others). The Trump University scandal should never become yesterday’s news. This should be Trump’s “Watergate” moment and it should become that moment before the election not after as what happened with the original “Watergate” that ended with a nation being put through trauma that ended in a massive number of prosecutions and convictions, and the resignation of Pres. Nixon. This story needs to be continual so that it is clear, salient and undeniable in everyone’s minds when they vote for President in November.
Furthermore, it should always be remembered those figures who know who this man is who have supported Mr. Trump. Although politically we are far apart, I can say the David Brooks has been right about him again and again. He was particularly correct when he talked about the “Joseph McCarthy moment” and how people will be judged regarding how and where they stood at this time. That Mr. Trump is a con man is undeniable and in full view to everyone … the person who will say and do anything to get what he wants. Who’s words and behavior are not limited by any sense of ethics, morality or even the law.
Furthermore, it should always be remembered those figures who know who this man is who have supported Mr. Trump. Although politically we are far apart, I can say the David Brooks has been right about him again and again. He was particularly correct when he talked about the “Joseph McCarthy moment” and how people will be judged regarding how and where they stood at this time. That Mr. Trump is a con man is undeniable and in full view to everyone … the person who will say and do anything to get what he wants. Who’s words and behavior are not limited by any sense of ethics, morality or even the law.
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90% of American economy is lies and schemes of some fashion. So was the liberation of Iraq, Afganistan, and Libya. I will say, Trump is the best president America can ever have.
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why would he be the best? how can you honestly say that? it's just wishful thinking. the guy shoots his mouth off with no thought to the consequences, he immediately rails against anyone who disagrees with him, which ultiately will make him the biggest fool on the world stage, not a demonstrator of greatness. A country is not a business. His ruthless characteristics will do more harm than good. The President is someone kids should look up to. You want to live in a world where lots of children are exposed to such ruthless and immature bullying tactics from their nation's leader?
Here's the deal. If you are a Democrat you are blind to the truth that Hillary is a sociopath who has never run a business in her life, who can't even operate a FAX machine, who has never accomplished anything in her life. If you are a Republican you may be blind to the fact that Trump is a sociopath, has the IQ of an Orangatang, whose hair color and face color change every day, who lashes out like a rattlesnake at everything that moves. Neither Hillary not Trump can tell the truth if their lives depended on it. Hillary is incompetent, Trump is dangerous. Between the two, Trump has a better chance of fixing the US economy because he is likely to pick experts. And Trump is better on immigration and keeping out terrorists and Muslims who are by-in-large against LGBT rights, who would have LGBT gathered up and hung from cranes if they could, who do not believe in the First Ammendment, who would have anyone who writes a book mocking their religion killed or anyone who draws a comic strip portraying their prophet murdered. These are not extremeist Muslim viewpoints. These are the laws in EVERY Muslim country. Muslim countries do not allow members of any other faith to live in their country. Those that do are not only second class citizens, they live there at their own peril. If Muslims were the majority in our country, we would not have any freedom. Muslims are ten thousand times more conservative than the most right-wing Republican.
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She seems to do pretty well with servers.
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You should step away from your computer. The world doesn't need anymore uninformed opinions. If you think HC is unintelligent or hasn't accomplished a thing in her life, than your opinion is not worth any consideration. That is the frank truth.
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Not one single thing you have said is true.
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The American people don't despise Trump. They want to BE Trump. They want to learn how to cheat others out of their savings so that THEY can have their own reality TV show and fly around on private jets. An entire publishing industry is based around teaching these skills. Thanks to a combination of the business vermin and the hip hop industry, gangsters are in. Gangsters are fashion plates. The best scientists in the US can barely eek out a living. The symphonies are going under. We have no writers to speak of, other than children's book authors. Making a vast fortune has become the single point of being alive for most Americans.
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Speak for yourself. I have better hair than Drumpf and I don't have orange skin.
Although I am not a Trump fan, I actually don't blame him here. Am I the only one that thinks the students who are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to Trump University are the real fools? Trump was simply doing what he does best - preying on the weak and vulnerable.
If they're dumb enough to pay for Trump University then they're probably dumb enough to vote for him. They'll realize their mistakes eventually (and likely after it's too late).
If they're dumb enough to pay for Trump University then they're probably dumb enough to vote for him. They'll realize their mistakes eventually (and likely after it's too late).
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So you're just as cruel and unscrupulous as he is. That's not something to brag about.
i watched part of Trump's conference from yesterday. He is brash, obnoxious, and shows no respect for other people. The people surrounding him on the stage/podium were the same way, especially the serviceman whom he chose to speak for a few seconds. This serviceman almost immediately began to excoriate Hillary Clinton and liberals, in general. Obviously someone whom Trump chose to fire up the crowd.
Folks, four years can be an awfully, awfully loooooong time in the wrong situation...
Folks, four years can be an awfully, awfully loooooong time in the wrong situation...
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One quotation: "I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money."
Let's adjust that: I believe the Trump presidential campaign is a fraudulent scheme that preys upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their country.
Let's adjust that: I believe the Trump presidential campaign is a fraudulent scheme that preys upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their country.
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It doesn't seem to matter who Trump insults and offends - minorities, women, the disabled, the working class, POWs, world leaders, the pope... many Americans are still considering him for president. Why would they support someone so undignified, so uninformed, so unqualified? Americans worship celebrities and Trump is part of the celebrity industry. The rich and famous are sought-after to peddle hemorrhoid creams, adult diapers, electric grills, steaks. Americans buying Trump, The Board Game are also buying Trump as POTUS. It's a dangerous obsession.
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Trump supporters: Hands over ears, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA".
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"Ex-Workers at Trump’s School Call It a ‘Lie’ and a ‘Scheme’" What better preparation could there be for a political system which offers voters a choice between two candidates whom they dislike. And what other than a lie or scheme is a political system which pretends to be a democracy while controlled by a rich oligarchy of campaign contributors?
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I judge political candidates by their responses to reason. A population that doesn't respond to reason is ungovernable and so are politicians who are numb to it.
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Trump is a classic, overbearing, brutish huckster. He wears this signature style proudly on his sleeve, like a gaudy-oversized cuff link. He's a shiny version of the slimy car dealer who shoves a thousand dollars of worthless "clear coat" down your throat, via manipulation and sheer force of personality. He won't go down in history as anything more than a flashy real estate tycoon who left nothing behind but a few glass towers with his name plastered on the doors. Even the font is outdated and mediocre.
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Once again I say, DJT is unqualified to run for POTUS and this Republican will not support him. That we have reached a point in our history where we are having this discussion is awful and makes me fear for my grandchildren.
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Did Trump fund the Contra filth to go village to village terrorizing and murdering the citizenry? No, that was the wonderful Ronald Reagan.
Did Trump order the napalming of hundreds of thousands of women and children? No, that was the inspiring statesman Richard Nixon.
Did Trump attack Iraq on a stream of lies, destroy a nation of 26 million people and give birth to ISIS? No, that was George W Bush.
Trump is merely the latest in a huge pile of reeking garbage. He is not a standout. Rather, he's absolutely typical of the sort of filth we've suffered decade after decade.
Did Trump order the napalming of hundreds of thousands of women and children? No, that was the inspiring statesman Richard Nixon.
Did Trump attack Iraq on a stream of lies, destroy a nation of 26 million people and give birth to ISIS? No, that was George W Bush.
Trump is merely the latest in a huge pile of reeking garbage. He is not a standout. Rather, he's absolutely typical of the sort of filth we've suffered decade after decade.
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It is so surprising to me that so many in the media who seems to worship business and entrepreneurship are the ones who also decry Trump's failures. There is no way that you can have a long career in business and take risks and never experience failure. Yet, the failure of Trump University is just taken as a "proof" that Trump is a fraud. Nonsense. Yes Trump university was a failure but it did what all courses in real estate do. People paid too much for learning from Trump, but any celebrity has the right to set his or her prices -and in the movie business people think it's great and no one complains. If you don't like the price then don't go. I think Trump has many shortcomings and two of them are his lack of humor and his aggressiveness. But the NYT is taking a weird approach, a sleazy ones that consists of isolating a few cases of disgruntled individuals and generalize from there, ignore the cases where what he did worked. The latter amount is vastly superior to the former however, otherwise, he would not have what he has today. The NYT 's approach will fail because it is an approach - generalization - that doesn't work in science or business for good reasons. I get that you want to support your candidate but you should do so using the right methods and not that don't work such as generalization. Plus it's really not ethical.
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The NYT is reporting on the story, which is an ongoing class action and charges of fraud against Trump. This is not a journalist's independent investigation, it is something he has been dealing with for some time and will continue to deal with.
After location location location, the real estate biz is about staying-power.
So is the governance of nations.
Trump is a piker.
So is the governance of nations.
Trump is a piker.
Like a true narcissist Donald Trump only cares about himself. He only wants to be president to somehow benefit himself somehow. Anyone who believes anything else is delusional.
Regardless of whatever political views he says are important to him at a given time, it is baffling why anyone would vote for someone whose only motivations to be president are personal greed and ego. He will continue to change his views and opinions if it benefits him financially somehow. I actually like the idea of revisiting the NATO and the concept being open to questioning trade deals etc…but voting for someone who is only interested in adding cash to his pocket, and will openly lie on a daily basis would make me gag.
Regardless of whatever political views he says are important to him at a given time, it is baffling why anyone would vote for someone whose only motivations to be president are personal greed and ego. He will continue to change his views and opinions if it benefits him financially somehow. I actually like the idea of revisiting the NATO and the concept being open to questioning trade deals etc…but voting for someone who is only interested in adding cash to his pocket, and will openly lie on a daily basis would make me gag.
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Who can still possibly support him? This is not a right/left issue. This is about a man who is a third rate con man running for the highest office in the land. Surely most people must be reasonable enough to realize who he is and what a tragedy his election would be.
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"Let people know you've found an answer to their problems."
Playbook of Trump Non-iversity = Playbook of political Candidate for NonSense.
Read the Fraud, Dump the Don!
Playbook of Trump Non-iversity = Playbook of political Candidate for NonSense.
Read the Fraud, Dump the Don!
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the Clinton Foundation has accumulated billions of dollars from alleged unsavory characters yet the press seems to avoid any in depth analysis. As far as trump university like any school whether it's Harvard or MIT you'll find certain students who'll state the school "stunk" and others will say it's the greatest since sliced bread.
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If you can't tell the difference between this con and Harvard, you shouldn't be allowed out of the house on your own.
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"The Clintons have not been adequately investigated."
And after you buy that one, how about a degree from Trump University?
And after you buy that one, how about a degree from Trump University?
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You cannot be serious about the press ignoring the Clinton Foundation. This very newspaper had an agreement with the author of Clinton Cash.
Trump University was at its core a well-crafted scam wrapped in an elegant package stamped with the imprimatur of the Trump brand that when opened proved to be as hollow as the man himself.
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Don the Con
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It is depressing that so many people are willing to support a clear cut con artist. This is one of many schemes and we are just going keep hearing about more of them.
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“I believe that Trump University was a fraudulent scheme,” Mr. Schnackenberg wrote in his testimony, “and that it preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money.”
I haven’t perused the comments to see if anyone else noticed this but Didn’t he tell us how he loves the poorly educated?
Who knew the meaning he meant to be taken from that comment was not what he understood it to actually mean? Is that dissembling or something else?
I haven’t perused the comments to see if anyone else noticed this but Didn’t he tell us how he loves the poorly educated?
Who knew the meaning he meant to be taken from that comment was not what he understood it to actually mean? Is that dissembling or something else?
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I guess Trump is not the buffoon I always thought he was. He's a conniving salesman.
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"For Mr. Trump, whose presidential campaign hinges on his reputation as a businessman..." COMPLETELY DISAGREE. This is where the media and opponents of his candidacy get it totally wrong. Failures, flimflam, psuedo-entrepreneurial risk taking 'with his own money' are his ubiquitous and much loved, relatable qualities. He is unapologetically one with his message which is what ironically creates his supporter's comments like "He's real, authentic, calls it like it is, says what I am thinking." His reputation as a businessman? "Yeah, I made mistakes, I've legally bankrupted companies, I've let my support staff make decisions they shouldn't have, I'm human, like you. So, everything I have done as a businessman still leaves me a billionaire -- what's your point?" Media, the message is, you don't know what your point is and he knows it.
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I do know virtually no one in NYC, his home turf, will do business with him. Let's dig into why.
It is astonishing to me how some Americans can think that Trump is going to watch out for their welfare as president. Trump isn't for the people. Trump is for Trump and always has been.
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I didn't think any new disclosures about the activities of Donald Trump could make me any sicker to my stomach than I already was.
I was wrong.
I was wrong.
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OPM - sounds like the proposed financing for a certain wall Trump is promising. Unfortunately, the OPM Trump wants for his proposed presidency is ours.
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How much money can Trump actually have if he finds it necessary to rip off struggling people for $1,500 each?
Is Trump so profoundly dishonest that he can't stand to see any opportunity to scam people go untapped?
Is Trump so profoundly dishonest that he can't stand to see any opportunity to scam people go untapped?
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Yes!!!!
Trump is PT Barnum for the 21st century.
Lots of minutes have passed since old PT passed away. If what Barnum said was true, a lot of suckers must have been born too.
Lots of minutes have passed since old PT passed away. If what Barnum said was true, a lot of suckers must have been born too.
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Sounds like an operation founded upon solid free market principles and solid conservative values. In the words of the disreputable but witty W.C. Fields, "never give a sucker an even break".
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how are the southern preachers going to justify their support for a fraud?
w/o unwavering support from the pulpit, the GOP will be in big trouble in nov.
w/o unwavering support from the pulpit, the GOP will be in big trouble in nov.
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Trump fans don't know or care...
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Another day, and another smear story about Trump above the fold and leading on the left of The Times. As I ask The Times each day, when will their expose of the Clinton Foundation fund raising appear in the same space? Or maybe The Times could request the transcripts of the various speeches by the Clintons to all sorts of corporations which earned them $40 million in just 2 years. Or how about some research about how Hillary "earned" a $100,000 profit by investing just $1000 for a year in cattle futures? Or maybe a story about the selling of the White House travel office business to Clinton relatives? Or perhaps the fact that the Clintons charge the federal government rent on the guard house outside the Clinton home in Chappaqua; a guard house built with U.S. taxpayer money to protect the Clintons? Or The Times could tell us how many appeals for additional security went ignored by Secretary of state Hillary Clinton from our diplomats in Benghazi before 4 Americans there were murdered by terrorists. The Times could report on any or all of these things. But they won't.
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Reporting facts is not a smear. This article is reporting facts backed up by evidence. It is interesting how Trump worshipers repeat back his victimization rants as if they lack simple common sense.
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So many words, yet every one so far from the point.
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The people who are voting for Trump are looking for change, but are they knowledgeable enough to recognize that this type of change could lead to the further erosion of our democracy?
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I support Trump because of his ability to defraud and swindle. Once elected I am sure he will defraud and swindle the democrats.
In Trump's world, and that of his followers, any fact-based reporting is now a hit piece.
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Speaking of an instructor who was previously a jeweler, the complaint is his qualification was that he was a high pressure salesman. This was a course in real estate SALES, and since Trump made millions in promotion and sales, it seems a great qualification. It says it is ''better'' than business school. Why is having a playbook with well thought out sales strategies a drawback? Why is getting into student debt ''disgusting'', and maxing out credit cards disgusting? This happens every day in the most esteemed colleges and universities in the land. Idiotic NYT Clinton propaganda.
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Two things in this article would normally derail a candidate. The Mexican comment, and running a business that intentionally took advantage of people. It would at least drive a news cycle.
I appreciate the information here, but Trump's supporters aren't reading the NY Times. Sadly, the group consists of racists and bullies - people just like Trump, and people who are using Trump to get back at the government. How do you reach these people? Put sayings inside of beer caps?
I appreciate the information here, but Trump's supporters aren't reading the NY Times. Sadly, the group consists of racists and bullies - people just like Trump, and people who are using Trump to get back at the government. How do you reach these people? Put sayings inside of beer caps?
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was paid $1.35 million since last May for three speaking engagements for a network marketing company that has been accused of being nothing more than a pyramid scheme.
Of the many multi-level marketing companies that exist, ACN is “one of the more predatory and aggressive,” FitzPatrick told The Daily Caller. He said that the company not only charges its agents hefty up-front fees, it also forces them to sign lengthy contracts for products and services that the company sells.
dailycaller.com/2015/07/22/donald-trump-earned-huge-speaking-fees-from-c...
Of the many multi-level marketing companies that exist, ACN is “one of the more predatory and aggressive,” FitzPatrick told The Daily Caller. He said that the company not only charges its agents hefty up-front fees, it also forces them to sign lengthy contracts for products and services that the company sells.
dailycaller.com/2015/07/22/donald-trump-earned-huge-speaking-fees-from-c...
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To all who despair:
Trump is going to lose and fade away.
What will not fade away is this great nation we all love.
Which we were taught to love…whose basis, no matter the flaws of the Founders, is good and decent, a model for humankind.
We, as a people, even those who are temporarily fooled from time to time by frauds, will never let go of our blessed United States, its foundation, its enduring institutions, its rule of law.
This is ours.
God given.
No Trump, no one, can take it from us.
Trump is going to lose and fade away.
What will not fade away is this great nation we all love.
Which we were taught to love…whose basis, no matter the flaws of the Founders, is good and decent, a model for humankind.
We, as a people, even those who are temporarily fooled from time to time by frauds, will never let go of our blessed United States, its foundation, its enduring institutions, its rule of law.
This is ours.
God given.
No Trump, no one, can take it from us.
Demagogue Donald (DD) is how he should be known from here through November.
Hopefully DD will end up, as we say on the sailboat course, DDL (Dead D**n Last).
Hopefully DD will end up, as we say on the sailboat course, DDL (Dead D**n Last).
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I live far from New York and never paid much attention to Trump's machinations, other than guffawing at every new venture he cooked up that was obviously going to fail. A gaudy huckster with bad taste.
Turned out to be 100% dead on accurate. How is it possible that a major political party nominated him? Do his supporters really hate other American so much that they rewarded his disdain for their countrymen with the GOP nomination?
Turned out to be 100% dead on accurate. How is it possible that a major political party nominated him? Do his supporters really hate other American so much that they rewarded his disdain for their countrymen with the GOP nomination?
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#trumpenstein is a con artist and a crook. The only term he should get to serve is a prison term for ripping people off. His book should be renamed "the art of the con."
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I know we are mad at the US government. We have not been heard, on anything. Congress pads their pockets, Obama is a rich man, although it's hard to understand where he got all his money. Transparency is non-existent. Seems DC is poison.
However, it eludes me as to how so many want Trump. He's a lying buffoon with no ability to work on a team, no deep thoughts that might help with strategy, and no conscience. Hillary isn't much better, but Trump?
However, it eludes me as to how so many want Trump. He's a lying buffoon with no ability to work on a team, no deep thoughts that might help with strategy, and no conscience. Hillary isn't much better, but Trump?
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Obama still paying off college debt until his book made him millions. That's why he has tried to make it easier for students with debt. He's lived it.
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"Obama is a rich man, although it's hard to understand where he got all his money." Only if someone can't read. Say, for instance, this article, from that bastion of left-leaning librul media, the Wall Street Journal: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/04/15/obamas-2015-tax-return-lower-in...
And people would vote for this crook. Sort of like paxton from texas.
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I would like to see a parallel investigation of Trump's dealing with New York City, where he has put up so many unattractive buildings. Did he bamboozle or threaten public officials on his way to the deal?
We need to know more about his use of intimidation against the city. And we need to know whether and how officials caved, just like the Republicans who, though slimed by Donald, turned around and endorsed him nevertheless.
We need to know more about his use of intimidation against the city. And we need to know whether and how officials caved, just like the Republicans who, though slimed by Donald, turned around and endorsed him nevertheless.
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While I have my reservations about Hillary Clinton I would vote for her for president over Trump any day of the week.
Trump is not qualified to be president in so many ways -- lack of relevant experience, temperment, character, honesty.....the list goes on and on.
It is hilarious to me that he refers to Hillary Clinton as "Crooked Hillary". Trump "University" is but one example of the disingenuous way Trump has conducted himself in his various business dealings.
What the people who support Trump don't seem to get is that, just like Trump "University", Trump engages in things just for his own ego and self-aggrandizement. He has no interest whatsoever in helping anyone else.
Trump is not qualified to be president in so many ways -- lack of relevant experience, temperment, character, honesty.....the list goes on and on.
It is hilarious to me that he refers to Hillary Clinton as "Crooked Hillary". Trump "University" is but one example of the disingenuous way Trump has conducted himself in his various business dealings.
What the people who support Trump don't seem to get is that, just like Trump "University", Trump engages in things just for his own ego and self-aggrandizement. He has no interest whatsoever in helping anyone else.
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Humpty Dtumpfty and his wall. The world will cheer his fall.
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Yesterday's "press conference" reminded me of that courtroom scene in countless movies where the goal is to rattle a particular witness until he shows his true nature (usually sociopathic) or until he breaks down and confesses to the crime that someone else is on trial for.
In Trump's case, the goal is to rattle him in order to expose his sociopathic nature. In this regard, the drip drip drip of the NYTimes's stories helps. The tirade against the federal judge was quite something. Next we'll see more reporting on the veteran donations, which clearly Trump made only after media scrutiny. It will be interesting to learn more about the organizations to which those contributions were made, i.e., management, $ to administration/fundraising vs. actual veteran support, and more.
In Trump's case, the goal is to rattle him in order to expose his sociopathic nature. In this regard, the drip drip drip of the NYTimes's stories helps. The tirade against the federal judge was quite something. Next we'll see more reporting on the veteran donations, which clearly Trump made only after media scrutiny. It will be interesting to learn more about the organizations to which those contributions were made, i.e., management, $ to administration/fundraising vs. actual veteran support, and more.
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"Who is lying?" is the underlying McGuffin in all detective stories.
This time, I think they've got him. This shows that Trump's character assassination-style is grounded on his own fundamentally deformed
character.
character.
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I am fascinated by the practice of immunizing oneself from charges of doing something by accusing somebody else of it. It's what hypnotizes me about this place.
Wishful thinking. Sadly.
Shake hands with Trump and you'd better count your fingers.
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And the Republican party is lining up behind this?
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Are you surprised that they are unprincipled?
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Trump warnings light going berserk. This article followed by recent endorsement from the North Korean head and Trump's praise for Putin. Look at history and the "only if we had known" regrets. Folks, wake up! We now know.
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To all readers of the NYT who plan to vote for Donald Trump: Why? What do you see in him? Is there anything that he might do that would cause you to re-consider your vote? Is there any line in the sand for you in terms of either policy or personal comportment?
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One Trump supporter interviewed recently stated, in response to a question, that he would still support Trump "if Trump shot his dog for no reason."
When the reporter asked if he would still support Trump if Trump shot his child, the supporter said that he "might not" support Trump under those circumstances.
You can't make this up.
When the reporter asked if he would still support Trump if Trump shot his child, the supporter said that he "might not" support Trump under those circumstances.
You can't make this up.
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Perhaps those defending the indefensible Trump are being paid to do so. I can't imagine anyone who has any intelligence, and can think on their own using common sense, could imagine voting for him, oh, unless, of course they are just like him.
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I am already wondering who the Republican will run when Trump flames out. I hope it will be Colin Powell, to level the playing field on the private e-mail server and warmonger issues.
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I wish I could share your optimism re Trump flaming out.
I am a dedicated Hillary Clinton supporter, but if the clouds parted and if I were magically given the choice right now to either pick Colin Powell for president or let the current election continue, I would take Powell in a heartbeat.
Anything (almost) to erase the threat of Trumpocalypse.
I am a dedicated Hillary Clinton supporter, but if the clouds parted and if I were magically given the choice right now to either pick Colin Powell for president or let the current election continue, I would take Powell in a heartbeat.
Anything (almost) to erase the threat of Trumpocalypse.
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With apologies to the great jazz pianist…
Felonious Trump.
Felonious Trump.
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"Felonious Trump"!!!!! Wow!
And "Don the Con" (from another commenter).
These are excellent and could potentially gain traction.
Are you listening, Elizabeth Warren? Get tweeting!
And "Don the Con" (from another commenter).
These are excellent and could potentially gain traction.
Are you listening, Elizabeth Warren? Get tweeting!
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I’m surprised Trump hasn’t tweeted about the NYT, that”failing newspaper”.
Ore maybe he did (maybe at 5:58 AM?), but it wasn’t reported by any of the outlets I see.
Ore maybe he did (maybe at 5:58 AM?), but it wasn’t reported by any of the outlets I see.
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None of this will matter to Trump supporters. Just like none of it matters when Trump continues to whine about the press. This is his m.o. Whining about the press and they're apparently too ignorant to realize that he does this in order to deflect from the fact that he knows NOTHING. He knows nothing about the economy; he knows nothing about foreign policy. He knows NOTHING about anything but how to deflect. It's shameful to see how the media (not to mention his supporters) gets suckered in by this charlatan. That's what Trump is - a loud-mouthed whining buffoon and a charlatan.
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This article does not mention that students who took Trump university classes were heavily pressured to write positive reviews about the classes, even when their real opinion was that the classes were not very useful.
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The Republican "establishment" including Senators and Congressmen and Congresswomen supporting Trump are worse than what Trump did here After creating the Trump monster by their actions they are once again harming their base by blindly supporting him. I almost want Trump to win so those who vote for him can see the harm he will do. What stops me is knowing that he will have access to the nuclear codes and highest level of secrets and intelligence ee have, And if he abuses his powers and access (and he won't be able to keep himself from doing so) then McConnell and those who say they are not worried if Trump gets in will bear the brunt of the blame. I hope Paul Ryan puts country first and realizes that Hillary (or Sanders) cannot do major harm compared t Trump.
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"Little Marco" may be the most stomach-turning of all.
The New York Times continues to try to bring down this buffoon by pointing to his ragged campaign and blemished past. But the Trumpets care not about all of these "allegations." They are determined to vote against the party line, because they are angry and would just as soon destroy the Republican party as save it. The blemishes of Trump pale in significance to Trumpets compared to the flaws of the Republican party. Trump is the Republican's foil, his membership in that party notwithstanding, and the Republican status quo haters are determined to use him to bring down the leadership, country and all.
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This is a damning story that Trump won't be able to put a twist on or walk away from. It's another example of how Trump has taken advantage of the same people who he promises to help, should he be elected president.
We've read how he had made an arrangement with a company that imported cheap laborers from Romania to work for him for low wages while denying these same jobs to American applicants. We've read how he chose to manufacture ties and other garments cheaply in China and Mexico, but did not source out manufacturers in America to do the same work.
But this story demonstrates the true sickness of Trump; how he very tactically chose to misrepresent what would be delivered to students of Trump University, and in that sense to defraud them of what they were told they would gain in the end. The staff itself tells us this. It is not opinion. Trump has a history of hurting the same people who are his base of support. They are desperate and still cling to false hopes. I predict they will abandon him soon, as the truth cannot be disregarded.
We've read how he had made an arrangement with a company that imported cheap laborers from Romania to work for him for low wages while denying these same jobs to American applicants. We've read how he chose to manufacture ties and other garments cheaply in China and Mexico, but did not source out manufacturers in America to do the same work.
But this story demonstrates the true sickness of Trump; how he very tactically chose to misrepresent what would be delivered to students of Trump University, and in that sense to defraud them of what they were told they would gain in the end. The staff itself tells us this. It is not opinion. Trump has a history of hurting the same people who are his base of support. They are desperate and still cling to false hopes. I predict they will abandon him soon, as the truth cannot be disregarded.
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Trump University-Welcome to the world of for profit schools. I worked for years in the for profit industry and nothing I am reading surprises me in the least. This is the MO for any non profit school-aggressive selling to the most vulnerable. I once had our head of admissions tell me that his staff was "selling a dream." We know how most dreams turn out.
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It really worries me that "the Donald" may get elected President. If we can't find a better person to lead this country, we're in far worse shape than I thought. JGAIA-
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Neither Trump’s book or school is exactly about being benevolent or making a ”fair" deal, but rather about separating people from their money. Hard to feel sorry for a student of that or the Republican party that has embraced him. Unlike his former students, Republicans won't be able to sue for damages.
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Trump is imploding. He can not hide his scams and con's NOW! He wanted to run for Pres. Welcome to the PROCESS. 1st amendment was established to have a free press and speech to prevent scoundrels like this from destroying the REPUBLIC.
He claims China is eating our lunch. LOL, they ate HIS lunch!!!
He claims China is eating our lunch. LOL, they ate HIS lunch!!!
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What?? Only THREE Trump stories on your front page? Wow, you guys are slipping. You should be ashamed of yourselves. How do you expect him to get elected if you devote so little time to him?
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You sound like Donald Trump – – complaining that the press is "not treating me nicely!"
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Excellent Investigative Reporting....Keep it up..!!!!
Editors...you are getting back on the journalistic track...which your late
peers valued so much..
Keep it up...!!!!
Editors...you are getting back on the journalistic track...which your late
peers valued so much..
Keep it up...!!!!
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We KNOW you love Hillary, but the attacks on Trump are getting tiresome....................
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The attacks on Trump are anything but tiresome. The NYT and other responsible newspapers are doing their part (see First Amendment) to prevent my grandchildren from waking up to a nuclear mushroom or unbeatable air or both. Trump is at best a psychopath.
It's not an attack. This is very relevant news. Are you really claiming that this kind of thing shouldn't be made public?
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Attacks? Facts! Cmon. Stop being soft on this drumpf
I have never had a single sales job where my principles were not put into question. These kinds of sales tactics are common-place in corporate America. These "house flipper" seminar studies have been running the circuit in this country for as long as I can remember. They roll through a town near you once a month or so to round up a new batch of clients. There is one due in my town this weekend. One must assume that regardless of the amazingly low success rate of the people that pony up to these types of ventures, they are within the bounds of the law. And for a long time in this country, that is the height of the bar.
To me, it is a distasteful business. But no more a rip-off than a typical "self help seminar" large portion of the social sciences. To me someone that goes to a therapist for 10 years is likely being duped to the same degree as anyone unhappy with TU.
TU was no more a ripoff than a typical actual college experience these days. Where you waste 4 years of your life and come out the other side with 6 figure debt and a job working as a salesman for some house flipper seminar gambit. Or McDonalds. Whatever.
And that last tragic ripoff is an epidemic, and brought to you by the very same type of people trying to tear down Donald Trump.
But the bottom line for me is this. One candidate ran a "shady" business. One candidate ran a "shady" foundation, and was a horrible, possibly criminal custodian of our national security. Easy choice.
To me, it is a distasteful business. But no more a rip-off than a typical "self help seminar" large portion of the social sciences. To me someone that goes to a therapist for 10 years is likely being duped to the same degree as anyone unhappy with TU.
TU was no more a ripoff than a typical actual college experience these days. Where you waste 4 years of your life and come out the other side with 6 figure debt and a job working as a salesman for some house flipper seminar gambit. Or McDonalds. Whatever.
And that last tragic ripoff is an epidemic, and brought to you by the very same type of people trying to tear down Donald Trump.
But the bottom line for me is this. One candidate ran a "shady" business. One candidate ran a "shady" foundation, and was a horrible, possibly criminal custodian of our national security. Easy choice.
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Track down "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams' recent interview with Bill Maher, in which he discusses how Trump's political success is due to his mastery of well-established persuasion techniques, precisely the same techniques employed by "Trump University" as discussed in this article.
He predicts a Trump landslide in November...
He predicts a Trump landslide in November...
Trump's flacks say that ''the complaints only emanated from a small number of students.'' HA!
If you read these complaints and then consider that these poor and struggling middle-class victims had their most intimate financial data in the hands of a viscous bully and his subordinates, along with the self-serving rating sheets and other paper they were pressured into signing, every ten complaints indicates another 100 victims who were intimidated, or didn't want the hassle of pursuing a case through the courts, which takes time, more money and opens a private person up to attack from a vindictive psychopath.
How many of us want that kind of nut job with power over the IRS, FBI, NSA, DOD, CIA, and other tools of dark trade while he's being advised by the likes of Roger Stone?
Look at the way Trump behaved at his press conference and imagine instead him turning to an ambitious young presidential aide who is authorized to speak with the president's authority, and say, ''I don't care what you do to shut up that reporter . . .''
Oh, wait a minute, what does Vladamir Putin do? Nothing, people just die of random poisoning by radioisotopes, unexplained stabbings and shootings all the time, it's a violent world. Who was Putin's PR consultant? Paul Manafort. Where have I just recently heard that name? Who's that fellow managing the GOP Convention for Trump again? Oh one and the same! What a coincidence! Good thing I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
If you read these complaints and then consider that these poor and struggling middle-class victims had their most intimate financial data in the hands of a viscous bully and his subordinates, along with the self-serving rating sheets and other paper they were pressured into signing, every ten complaints indicates another 100 victims who were intimidated, or didn't want the hassle of pursuing a case through the courts, which takes time, more money and opens a private person up to attack from a vindictive psychopath.
How many of us want that kind of nut job with power over the IRS, FBI, NSA, DOD, CIA, and other tools of dark trade while he's being advised by the likes of Roger Stone?
Look at the way Trump behaved at his press conference and imagine instead him turning to an ambitious young presidential aide who is authorized to speak with the president's authority, and say, ''I don't care what you do to shut up that reporter . . .''
Oh, wait a minute, what does Vladamir Putin do? Nothing, people just die of random poisoning by radioisotopes, unexplained stabbings and shootings all the time, it's a violent world. Who was Putin's PR consultant? Paul Manafort. Where have I just recently heard that name? Who's that fellow managing the GOP Convention for Trump again? Oh one and the same! What a coincidence! Good thing I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
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Yes! The fact that many students were bullied into positive recommendations is like the many victims of domestic abuse, bullied into staying silent not protecting their abusers.
It's Stockholm Syndrome. Or, if you prefer, Identification with the Aggressor.
Pure and simple.
It's Stockholm Syndrome. Or, if you prefer, Identification with the Aggressor.
Pure and simple.
If the Trump evangelicals would bother to read their own holy book there is wisdom to be had about people who offer bread, but give stones, i.e.: telling poor people to max out their credit cards.
Plenty about reaping and sowing too.
Plenty about reaping and sowing too.
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No wonder Trump says he loves the poorly educated.
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Turn on your television in the wee hours of morning and watch some of the prosperity gospel hucksters defrauding the most vulnerable among us, those who can least afford such drastic outlays, into putting $1000 on a credit card to send to them as "seed" money. They promise god will "wipe out your debt."
You'll recognize the same sales tactics Trump uses to convince people he will make America great again.
You'll recognize the same sales tactics Trump uses to convince people he will make America great again.
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The lines that jump out at me are: open as many credit card accounts as you can to pay the tuition—and better than the best business school.
This was no business school, just training in hucksterism (how can one make a sale to chumps, the Trump specialty). Business is a lot more than salesmanship; it involves law, accounting, and other useful tools.
And the notion of maxing out credit cards should warn us against letting Trump and his cronies get their hands in the national cookie jar. He may be the most unsavory candidate since Warren Harding. But that's not fair to Harding: he at least had the veneer of decorum.
This was no business school, just training in hucksterism (how can one make a sale to chumps, the Trump specialty). Business is a lot more than salesmanship; it involves law, accounting, and other useful tools.
And the notion of maxing out credit cards should warn us against letting Trump and his cronies get their hands in the national cookie jar. He may be the most unsavory candidate since Warren Harding. But that's not fair to Harding: he at least had the veneer of decorum.
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And the Republicans are kissing his butt. What a freak show.
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Hey, Drumpf said it himself: he loves the uneducated. This is one the reasons. The other one is that, despite all this, they continue to support him. There's definitely one born every minute and they all want to make America "great" again.
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People need to realize that you can't "out-stink" a skunk. Skunk Trump's foul odor is becoming more noticeable as days pass. If you try to "out-stink" a skunk like Trump, pretty soon everything smells like skunk.
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Perhaps the Presidency is another way for Mr. T to increase wealth. After all most of congress is made up of millionaires....so how about the ultimate, the Presidency. Billions? Dare I say, trillions? The first ever trillionaire?
Wasn't there a report some months back that Mr. T has already made money while running for President?
Pity human lifespan is so limited and our bodies are so frail. Isn't it so?
Wasn't there a report some months back that Mr. T has already made money while running for President?
Pity human lifespan is so limited and our bodies are so frail. Isn't it so?
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And if this charlatan wins the Oval office and he continues at this debased
level, you can't just yell "you're Fired". A Constitutional crisis ensues.
When the most powerful country in the history of the world is shaken......
the equilibrium of the entire financial and political world will feel the effect....
.....and his supporters along with the rest of us might be the next to hear "you're fired!"
I think they call it "trickle down catastrophe"
level, you can't just yell "you're Fired". A Constitutional crisis ensues.
When the most powerful country in the history of the world is shaken......
the equilibrium of the entire financial and political world will feel the effect....
.....and his supporters along with the rest of us might be the next to hear "you're fired!"
I think they call it "trickle down catastrophe"
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I still believe that Trump never imagined he would come so far as to be the presumptive GOP nominee. He was just using the process as another tool to make a buck and plaster his tarnished name all over the airwaves for future use in his own media wonderland.
It boggles the mind how so many millions have been boondoggled by this dangerous, sleazy, con artist and are ready to make him all mighty leader in chief. I can only imagine what Trump and his followers would be saying if this story were about Clinton or Sanders. PRISON@!!!
It boggles the mind how so many millions have been boondoggled by this dangerous, sleazy, con artist and are ready to make him all mighty leader in chief. I can only imagine what Trump and his followers would be saying if this story were about Clinton or Sanders. PRISON@!!!
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Trump is now and always has been a grifter.
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I'm in business! It's my business to defraud and exploit the little people!
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Not that I'd ever give any credibility to Marco Rubio but with this article and all we know about Trump, it really seems like his entire adult life has been about compensating for the size of his…umm…hands!
Perp walk at eleven!
Perp walk at eleven!
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And this accurately describes Donald Trump, "a lie and a scheme". Why does the media not write about Trumps Mafia connections? His failures?
This is a case of marketing to a specific socio-economic group, and it succeeded.
This is a case of marketing to a specific socio-economic group, and it succeeded.
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If the NYT is serious about damaging Trump's campaign - which they seem to be with the near-daily front-page articles against him - they would simply not write about him at all and boycott his name.
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Sufficient confirmation, if it were needed, of the truth of lawsuits already filed against Trump 'University.' These disclosures must be disseminated widely before it is too late,and this cynical huckster is elected president. It's not a question of partisan opposition, but an essential public service!
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Many Trumpster knows he is a successful con artist without principles beforehand. This psychology is very similar to the jury decision to exonerate OJ Simpson albeit overwhelm physical criminal evidence because the black jurors cannot overcome the racial injustice ingrained in their psychic. All white jury in the book “To kill the Mockingbird” convicted Tom Robinson in spite of knowing his innocence because no one dare to cross the racial line in a close community in Macon County. The race relationships have not changed much despite the election of Obama.
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Why aren't there criminal charges? Let's hope a prosecutor is looking into this.
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A degree from Trump University and $100 will get you a cup of coffee at Trump Cafe.
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If you think you can get rich from sitting through a seminar, you don't deserve to have the responsibility that comes with wealth.
Why the outrage of Trump University? Those who enrolled were looking for tricks to screw others and got shafted themselves. Trump University never took taxpayer money. Outrage ought to be directed at congress which has protected and coddled the for-profit education industry taking federal student aid by the billions and doing exactly the same thing to minorities, veterans, first-generation students striving to get skills to do a real job. It took the Obama administration to go after them with rules like gainful employment and caps on federal dollars as a percent of revenue to slow their growth. When they went bankrupt there were more losses to legitimate college aspirants and the taxpayer. You do not have to look at court records. There is piles of scholarly research how congress has enabled this for decades. How about Orin Hatch & Sons and phony "nutraceuticals" in Utah?
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Make America Great Again, lol! Who is this guy fooling. If he becomes President, the world as we know cease to exist.
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Is this the best the Republican Party can offer from a bench of 17 candidates?
A boiler room candidate?
This is what we get from 8 years of obstruction to make Obama a one term candidate. Thank you congress it is all your fault
A boiler room candidate?
This is what we get from 8 years of obstruction to make Obama a one term candidate. Thank you congress it is all your fault
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Donald Trump's actions and rhetoric appear to be that of an overt narcissist. Anyone with a Narcissistic Personality Disorder cannot control themselves. They will lash out at anyone who challenges them in any way or expose them as less than perfect. They have no insight or perspective.
How else to explain Trump lashing out and denigrating the very judge overseeing a fraud case against him? Who in their right mind would do such a thing?
He cannot help himself. He has tp take revenge.
By his actions, and inflated sense of himself, he he is compelled to denigrate reporters who fail to passively go along with every contradictory statement he has in hopes, it seems to cow them into submission.
Trump seems to be driven to take revenge on anyone or anything that challenges him. Promising, if elected, to loosen libel laws to suppress journalists, whom he considers are against him is an example.
A narcissist cannot see beyond his nose. Trump seems unable to understand that calling a reporter asking a reasonable question a "sleaze", and others "losers" because he resents being held accountable for what he says and does, can be seen as despotic. In his mind, he is always the victim.
It is deplorable how the media, for ratings, etc. has allowed this shallow man who seems to be driven by a personality disorder to have an unfettered platform to spew his self-inflationary, dangerous rhetoric for months.
How else to explain Trump lashing out and denigrating the very judge overseeing a fraud case against him? Who in their right mind would do such a thing?
He cannot help himself. He has tp take revenge.
By his actions, and inflated sense of himself, he he is compelled to denigrate reporters who fail to passively go along with every contradictory statement he has in hopes, it seems to cow them into submission.
Trump seems to be driven to take revenge on anyone or anything that challenges him. Promising, if elected, to loosen libel laws to suppress journalists, whom he considers are against him is an example.
A narcissist cannot see beyond his nose. Trump seems unable to understand that calling a reporter asking a reasonable question a "sleaze", and others "losers" because he resents being held accountable for what he says and does, can be seen as despotic. In his mind, he is always the victim.
It is deplorable how the media, for ratings, etc. has allowed this shallow man who seems to be driven by a personality disorder to have an unfettered platform to spew his self-inflationary, dangerous rhetoric for months.
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Many of his supporters are angry about how they're getting ripped off. How can they not see him for who he really is? He's the rip off artist with a bus load of lawyers behind him .
It doesn't make sense. He should be reviled by these people.
It doesn't make sense. He should be reviled by these people.
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Today's Trump supporters are the same white middle and lower class Americans who have voted against their own direct economic interests since Ronald Reagan.
For a long time, they were duped and used by the Republican Party, which in reality represents only monied interests, not ordinary working people.
Now they are being duped and used by Donald Trump, who in reality represents only his own interests, not those of any other person or entity on earth.
The march to self-destruction is the same. Only the Pied Piper has changed.
A continuing American tragedy.
For a long time, they were duped and used by the Republican Party, which in reality represents only monied interests, not ordinary working people.
Now they are being duped and used by Donald Trump, who in reality represents only his own interests, not those of any other person or entity on earth.
The march to self-destruction is the same. Only the Pied Piper has changed.
A continuing American tragedy.
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Here in NYC, "LIE" stands for two things. The Long Island Expressway, and Donald J. Trump. Both will take you for a very long ride out of town. The former can be rewarding, the later can leave you bankrupt.
DD
Manhattan
DD
Manhattan
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Why aren't these questions constantly asked to Trump?
Why is he allowed not to answer these questions publicly?
Why no constant follow up questions on his business dealing?
Dear Press--don't let him off the hook.
Why is he allowed not to answer these questions publicly?
Why no constant follow up questions on his business dealing?
Dear Press--don't let him off the hook.
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Now I believe in water boarding.
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The TV press's treatment of Donald Trump has been a disgraceful failure. Only Chris Matthews has dug in with his terrier teeth and refused to let go. The rest are too worried about maintaining access to even try to keep the man on-topic, much less to generate a follow-up question.
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And what do the politicians who have endorsed Trump think of Trump University? Would they pay for it and recommend it to their family and friends?
Trump may never answer press questions, but Orin Hatch, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Dick Cheney, and Bob Dole may not want to look like fools. Anyone else who dares to step forward to endorse Trump should be embarrassed with the same questions.
Trump may never answer press questions, but Orin Hatch, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Dick Cheney, and Bob Dole may not want to look like fools. Anyone else who dares to step forward to endorse Trump should be embarrassed with the same questions.
Then let's go after all the universities and colleges that encourage 18-22 year olds rack up over $100,000 in student loans which they must repay at the same time as being forced to buy obscenely high priced and high deductible Obamacare in this "Hope-and Change" economy.
Wha? You have tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and can't find a good job? From schools where six-figure professors with no real-world experience gave you such a great education? If that's Hope and Change, you can keep it.
Wha? You have tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and can't find a good job? From schools where six-figure professors with no real-world experience gave you such a great education? If that's Hope and Change, you can keep it.
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And you think the selfish leaders in the Republican party can address that issue better?
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Yes, the cost of education is high, and few would disagree that something must be done about student debt.
But the students accumulating that debt are at least receiving an education, and they are the ones more likely to obtain jobs rather than those bilked by Trump.
And, again yes, there are flaws with the ACA, and prices are increasing. And, yes, that's appalling. But a few points bear noting beyond the kneejerk anti-Obama comment:
People who have jobs that offer health insurance aren't forced to buy health care.
People whose incomes are limited received substantial credits.
The people obtaining this insurance at least have the assurance the pre-existing conditions are covered.
In many locations, there is a range of policy premiums and deductibles.
Is the ACA perfect? Of course not. But the knee-jerk opposition is really pointless, and it is entirely unrelated to Trump's long con on the American people.
But the students accumulating that debt are at least receiving an education, and they are the ones more likely to obtain jobs rather than those bilked by Trump.
And, again yes, there are flaws with the ACA, and prices are increasing. And, yes, that's appalling. But a few points bear noting beyond the kneejerk anti-Obama comment:
People who have jobs that offer health insurance aren't forced to buy health care.
People whose incomes are limited received substantial credits.
The people obtaining this insurance at least have the assurance the pre-existing conditions are covered.
In many locations, there is a range of policy premiums and deductibles.
Is the ACA perfect? Of course not. But the knee-jerk opposition is really pointless, and it is entirely unrelated to Trump's long con on the American people.
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This kind of ignorance is stunning and terrifying.
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The lack of foresight shown by Trump in this is astounding. Did he create training materials and think they would somehow never become public knowledge, that there is/was a secret group of loyalists who would never out him, that he was so special he was untouchable?
The other thing it shows is his total lack of compassion. How can we believe he would be a president that would rebuild a country when his university was ready to take down struggling Americans through tuition alone? Max out your cards? Is that his plan for making us great again?
This take-advantage mindset is what is behind most MBAs, but rewarding it with the presidency is deplorable.
The other thing it shows is his total lack of compassion. How can we believe he would be a president that would rebuild a country when his university was ready to take down struggling Americans through tuition alone? Max out your cards? Is that his plan for making us great again?
This take-advantage mindset is what is behind most MBAs, but rewarding it with the presidency is deplorable.
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People with ambitions to lofty offices usually start building careers and reputations on solid foundations early on, knowing that staying-power will choose the winners.
Trump never dreamed he would just float to where he is now.
Trump never dreamed he would just float to where he is now.
Trump University was all dirty smoke and mirrors just as is his presidential run. Disgustingly classless.
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Thank you for great investigative work and for continuing to expose Don the Con as the fraud that he is.
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This ugly man is now a POTUS candidate. Made possible by the repub party and its' ugly politics.
Hold the republican party to account. Do not vote republican. For the good of the country. Please.
Hold the republican party to account. Do not vote republican. For the good of the country. Please.
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I sure hope that his ego gets the best of him and he decided to testify, no doubt against his attorneys advice. If you look thru some of his comments, he pretty much admits that he looks for advantageous opportunities, meaning finding some suckers that can be played-- investors for his deals, students for his schools, attendees for his speaking gigs. His primary skill is in promotion, NOT real estate, education or country clubs, but the promotion of various businesses and opportunities. Nothing wrong with that if the opportunity or business is legit and the risks are disclosed. I think that in many cases, the investors or attendees are blinded by his PR machine and charisma (for some of them). Ok in biz, but not for the leadership of the US. My guess is that the pressure is being ratched up by our free press and it will finally become obvious to even republicans that the emperor does not have any clothes on. Do they really want to be responsible for putting him in charge of the free world?
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Trump's ego already got to him. He has ruined his brand. Now he is the man who ate crow with chopsticks in Hong Kong.
Prey for Trump!
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Trump's presidential campaign and promises are no different from "Trump University." His bid is a fraudulent scheme, preying on the poor, disenfranchised, angry and uneducated to propel him to the White House. I can't tell you how disgusted I am by this charade.
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Yawn......
Why don't you guys (the Times) do something constructive -- like a detailed investigation of HRC going back to Arkansas. You want corruption, that's what you'll find. I'd start with delving into the Cattle Futures trades she made in the late 70's -- where she turned one thousand dollars into 100 thousand in six months -- a near mathematical impossibility. At the very least, she was shown special treatment by her broker -- violating margin requirements -- but any objective review of her activities would strongly suggest she wasn't trading --- the trade was merely a device for to pass money to the Clintons for services rendered. And of course, there's more -- from Arkansas to the Clinton foundation to setting up her own e-mail server so she wouldn't have to respond to Freedom of Information requests.
And I must remind the Times -- and readers -- that while there may be issues with Trump's past, it is unlikely any illegal activity will surface. And whatever Trump may have done that the lefties won't and don't like about trump -- which is everything including giving to charity --all of his activities have been as a private citizen. Whereas HRC's misdeeds have been as a public servant.
Why don't you guys (the Times) do something constructive -- like a detailed investigation of HRC going back to Arkansas. You want corruption, that's what you'll find. I'd start with delving into the Cattle Futures trades she made in the late 70's -- where she turned one thousand dollars into 100 thousand in six months -- a near mathematical impossibility. At the very least, she was shown special treatment by her broker -- violating margin requirements -- but any objective review of her activities would strongly suggest she wasn't trading --- the trade was merely a device for to pass money to the Clintons for services rendered. And of course, there's more -- from Arkansas to the Clinton foundation to setting up her own e-mail server so she wouldn't have to respond to Freedom of Information requests.
And I must remind the Times -- and readers -- that while there may be issues with Trump's past, it is unlikely any illegal activity will surface. And whatever Trump may have done that the lefties won't and don't like about trump -- which is everything including giving to charity --all of his activities have been as a private citizen. Whereas HRC's misdeeds have been as a public servant.
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Nice try, Ralphie.
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Why has no one dubbed Trump University a 419 outfit? The scam emails you receive from Third World countries are known as 419 emails. After reading this article, I find no difference between what Trump University offered and what those scamming emails offer. Mr. Trump should thank his stars that he is not being prosecuted criminally.
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Drumpf will rue the day he started this run for president. If there is one thing he hates more besides himself is scrutiny.
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Drumpf is a total lier and with no scruples, that's the bottomline of all this. OF course he'll always deny it, he's not stupid enough to admit it, or intelligent enough to admit it and say "hey, I've made mistakes, ok? I've made mistakes, ok? hey one more thing: I've made mistakes ok?"
Regarding the Veterans: do not forget that he only did it to avoid debating that night...........stop acting like drunks people, Trump (originally Drumpf) will sink AMERICA, dont let him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regarding the Veterans: do not forget that he only did it to avoid debating that night...........stop acting like drunks people, Trump (originally Drumpf) will sink AMERICA, dont let him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here he is: with a capital T that rhymes with P that stands for President. Right here in America!
Come and get it, don't be left behind!
(A con man for President...are we that foolish...what is it that PT Barnum said???)
Come and get it, don't be left behind!
(A con man for President...are we that foolish...what is it that PT Barnum said???)
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'The “Blast” phase, it explains, is “giving your clients hope again.” The “Probe” phase, it says, must “slowly bring the client back down to reality.”
Let's hope that second phase hits voters well before November. Or we'll be getting "the probe" for real.
Let's hope that second phase hits voters well before November. Or we'll be getting "the probe" for real.
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This story would be the nail in the coffin for any other candidate. Some how, in scratching my head 2016, Trump will turn it into a glue gun. For some reason this year we are drawn to someone who loves to tear others down.
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The scheme of Trump University playbook exploits the psychological weakness of people, and it is really disgusting. Whether Trump knew about it, he apparently profited from it. This is what he has done to his supporters; if elected, this is what he will do to the country. His rant against the judge demonstrates that he knows the release of TU playbook highlights what he truly is--a con man who exploits and takes advantage of other people for his own interests.
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Why is this a surprise to anyone who is paying attention?
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it's not. hopefully it will be a bit of an eye-opener for those who are NOT paying attention.
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Human nature does not necessarily conform to entrenched belief systems. Imagine how our government could be if you had this good of an eye for deception...with most politicians, without the aid of political incentive.
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Let's see if I understand this:
Like ALL For Profit and some so-called "non-profit" "SCHOOLS" this one was a scam.
Now there is a real shocker!!
As I tell my students every class, if you see the word "FREE" and you are older than 7 and you believe it, we need to have a talk.
Why is being a crook such a surprise to people? ALL so-called "executives" are crooks. You have to be a crook to run any company or business in this country or any other one, for that matter.
Please start writing down the names of everyone you know who is NOT a crook. Not a very long list, is it?
Trump is a crook. So what? He will tell the rest of the world to do what he says "or else." Not sure what "or else" will be, but I KNOW it will cost all of us some cash. Sounds like a good plan to me!
Like ALL For Profit and some so-called "non-profit" "SCHOOLS" this one was a scam.
Now there is a real shocker!!
As I tell my students every class, if you see the word "FREE" and you are older than 7 and you believe it, we need to have a talk.
Why is being a crook such a surprise to people? ALL so-called "executives" are crooks. You have to be a crook to run any company or business in this country or any other one, for that matter.
Please start writing down the names of everyone you know who is NOT a crook. Not a very long list, is it?
Trump is a crook. So what? He will tell the rest of the world to do what he says "or else." Not sure what "or else" will be, but I KNOW it will cost all of us some cash. Sounds like a good plan to me!
Doing business with Trump or voting for him is the same thing - like being talked into buying a time share.
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The constancy of his sleaze is amazing. Opponents like to harp on people like Bill Clinton or Ron Regan over occasional lies about Lewinski or trading arms for hostages. But Trump's business plan seems to be a constant barrage of this stuff.
His school forced students to write positive reivews. In a separate article today, he's tried to tell the media what it is supposed to report about him. What would Pres Trump do, only allow in reporters at press conferences who promise to say nice things about him?
Why, oh why, do so many people believe him and vote for him? Is he just that good a fooling people, like the students of Trump U ? What will happen if he tries to run the country like he's run his companies?
Anybody remember Jessie Ventura? He ran for Governor of Minnesota a few years ago, on a platform of "I'm not a career politician, so you can trust me. All these things are wrong and I'm going to fix them." He didn't get much done, quit the job early, and left Minnesota in a bad fiscal state. Sounding familiar?
No wonder Putin has nice things to say about him; they're very much alike.
His school forced students to write positive reivews. In a separate article today, he's tried to tell the media what it is supposed to report about him. What would Pres Trump do, only allow in reporters at press conferences who promise to say nice things about him?
Why, oh why, do so many people believe him and vote for him? Is he just that good a fooling people, like the students of Trump U ? What will happen if he tries to run the country like he's run his companies?
Anybody remember Jessie Ventura? He ran for Governor of Minnesota a few years ago, on a platform of "I'm not a career politician, so you can trust me. All these things are wrong and I'm going to fix them." He didn't get much done, quit the job early, and left Minnesota in a bad fiscal state. Sounding familiar?
No wonder Putin has nice things to say about him; they're very much alike.
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What is the appeal of this bitter angry man? Or the other bitter angry man on the flip side of the same coin?
Hillary sparkles with positivity and alertness mingling with crowd of her supporters, and her handshake is warm and dry.
This is the most no-brainer election in US history.
Hillary sparkles with positivity and alertness mingling with crowd of her supporters, and her handshake is warm and dry.
This is the most no-brainer election in US history.
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In promotional videos Mr. Trump promised instructors would be “hand picked” by him. This statement was clearly not true – Mr. Trump had essentially no involvement in picking instructors.
Criminal fraud exists when 5 criteria are met:
1) There is a false statement of material fact. Check.
2) The person making the statement knows it is untrue. Check.
3) The statement is intended to deceive the victim. Check.
4) The victim relies on the statement. Check.
5) There is injury to the victim as a result of the above. Check.
Case closed.
Criminal fraud exists when 5 criteria are met:
1) There is a false statement of material fact. Check.
2) The person making the statement knows it is untrue. Check.
3) The statement is intended to deceive the victim. Check.
4) The victim relies on the statement. Check.
5) There is injury to the victim as a result of the above. Check.
Case closed.
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This is a wild man.
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There is another article in today's New York Times about how angry DT is that he had to actually make the $1 million contribution he promised to veterans' groups and the other $3+ million he supposedly raised for them. He had no intention of making the contribution. He is just another small-minded corrupt crook with inherited money. What a HUGE ego for such a small-minded man to have to support.
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Welcome to the world of for profit "education." The whole sector is a cesspool of sleaze. If anyone wants a good counter-argument to free-market dogmas about the benefits of the profit motive as overriding principle for all social organization, just compare the for profit and non-profit educational sectors.
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When one makes perpetuation of problems profitable, they take on lives of their own, sometime approaching immortality.
It would seem that Donald J. Trump, like the bankers, like Hillary Clinton, is immune from criminal charges. Trump U was an "enterprise in or affecting interstate commerce" whose affairs were conducted through "a pattern of racketeering activity" (assuming the use of the mails, wires, telephone, etc., in furtherance of the scheme to defraud). This would state a violation of the RICO act and should subject Trump to, at least, indictment. Where is the prosecution?
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Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton has done nothing criminal, Ronald Cohen. Stop spreading false information.
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There is a long list of crimes committed b Mrs Clinton. Let's start with below.
Turned $1000 into $100,000 in 12 months by 'reading the Wall St Journal'. Do you really believe she did that honestly?
Turned $1000 into $100,000 in 12 months by 'reading the Wall St Journal'. Do you really believe she did that honestly?
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I believe that SoS Clinton accepted bribes for approving arms deals with a quid pro quo of contributions to the Clinton Foundation. That's just the start.
Trump is just a con man. Hilary, or Bernie, you need to keep saying it over and over, and backing it up with facts like in this article. Con men succeed because the victims want desperately to believe, but he needs to be exposed. A majority of America cannot be rubes.
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Of course, Trump is a true American con, but your beloved Hillary is not that different. What do you think the millions in "speaking fees" were for.
If you people new anything that's normal in high costs business that's what the schools thought him so blame the schools if you think it's bad but it's true u have to con past the other cons trying to detail you as you are doing right now ...
Vote Trump...
Vote Trump...
I do not have as much faith as you do in "the people". It will be a very tight race. As I said before, even if the Devil is the on the Republican ticket he will automatically win close to 50% of the total votes and nearly 100% of the Republican votes.
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