It's now becoming clear. If Hillary is the nominee and loses in November, she and all her fans will blame poor Bernie-- a la Ralph Nader, another good man tarred and feathered for not bowing down to the DNC hierarchy. Many Clinton supporters here say that Bernie should have run as a third party candidate--not in "their" party. And if he did? See above.
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Wow, the Reader picks are way off in their analysis of the primary when you compare them to the results.
If the Times had a similar article, written by a man, about "Our Man in New York", which spoke similarly about the two candidates but reversing their genders, the cries of sexism would resound.
Just because the object of such sexism in this article is a male does not make it any less sexist.
Just because the object of such sexism in this article is a male does not make it any less sexist.
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I think you have it backward, JoJo. Why do all the Bernie supporters constantly cry Foul! about the Times' coverage of Bernie when, in
objective reality, the Times has bent over backwards to be fair to him?
This country is long overdue for a strong, competent, widely and well experienced Female Predident. You should be rejoicing! We Dems are about to make Presidential history -- again! Why not quit your whining and join the party?
Sincerely,
Journalism M.A., specialist in
Content Analysis
Denver, Colorado
objective reality, the Times has bent over backwards to be fair to him?
This country is long overdue for a strong, competent, widely and well experienced Female Predident. You should be rejoicing! We Dems are about to make Presidential history -- again! Why not quit your whining and join the party?
Sincerely,
Journalism M.A., specialist in
Content Analysis
Denver, Colorado
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Looks like Hillary Clinton will come out of the primary in her "adopted home state" with a net gain of about 30 to 35 delegates relative to Bernie Sanders.
Will this be reported as "not significantly changing the delegate math," as we've seen following recent shifts of greater magnitude, in favor of Sanders, in the western states?
Will this be reported as "not significantly changing the delegate math," as we've seen following recent shifts of greater magnitude, in favor of Sanders, in the western states?
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Add those 30 or so delegates to HRC 200+ delegate lead over BS or consider HRC about 130 or so closer to what is needed. See, all sorts of ways of viewing today's NY primary.
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I cannot believe that Sanders did not inform his indie BernieBots that they needed to register for a party so that they could vote in NY today. And now he says, the system is wrong? Everything that doesn't go Bernie's way is rigged or wrong or Hillary's fault. Sanders needs to take an anger management class. What's next Bernie? You want to write the Constitution?
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Who needs to take an anger management class?
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The Donald seems somewhat detached--does he really want to win? Being President is a tough and all-consuming job (unless Cheney is making the decisions).
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I want Sanders to win as much as I want readers to win over NYTimes editors and publisher and as much as I want information to win over manipulative propaganda. I want Sanders to win as much as I want voters to win over super-PACS. I want Sanders to win as much as I want
the engaged and energetic voters who want to build new roads and new bridges to win over the party's establishment pouring cements on little cracks in roads to nowhere. I want Sanders to win as much as I want those who clearly state the goals we should aim at to win over those who lead us through mist that makes mocement impossible. I want Sanders to win.
the engaged and energetic voters who want to build new roads and new bridges to win over the party's establishment pouring cements on little cracks in roads to nowhere. I want Sanders to win as much as I want those who clearly state the goals we should aim at to win over those who lead us through mist that makes mocement impossible. I want Sanders to win.
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The Democratic Party proved once it prefers to vote for a black man than a woman. Now misguided people like you are ready to vote for another inexperienced, useless and unaccomplished public servant to continue avoiding having a woman as a president. It doesn't matter if she's the smartest and most competent person on the political scene.
What a shame these words come from a woman.
What a shame these words come from a woman.
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I believe this is Ad Hominem argument coming NOT from Bernie Bro but from the supporter of the woman candidate, which I haven't even mentioned by name. But yes, it is more important for me what the person stands for than how the person appears to others.
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So by your logic, supporting Sanders is automatically sexist. Hmm.
Bernie has made an extraordinary run. He started from nowhere and made his views known. Trump is also shaking things up.
I, for one, am tired of the one percent owners and career politicians making all of the important decisions without any concern for anyone else. I don’t think that either Bernie or Trump will be nominated. However, there will be plenty of other “down ticket” elections in November. Will the insurgency continue without these leaders?
I, for one, am tired of the one percent owners and career politicians making all of the important decisions without any concern for anyone else. I don’t think that either Bernie or Trump will be nominated. However, there will be plenty of other “down ticket” elections in November. Will the insurgency continue without these leaders?
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I'll be happy when Hillary is finally declared the winner and we can finally stop hearing Sanders's complain that a party primary system is 'suddenly' rigged after he's realized the party who's bandwagon he leapt on when it was convenient chose not to welcome him with open arms.
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Bravo! I'm wondering why it's hard to get a Comment published today and not on other days.
She's working for US (all of us, not just 21 year olds with massive college debt they willingly & knowingly incurred, btw) but all of us.
And I'm #I'm with her.
She's working for US (all of us, not just 21 year olds with massive college debt they willingly & knowingly incurred, btw) but all of us.
And I'm #I'm with her.
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During this election cycle, I'm amazed by the willingness of some people on either side of the political aisle to abandon reason and logic for puffs of smoke that Trump and Sanders are blowing up their, well, their faces. If Trump can use any words, terms, and insults he wants, and is perceived as "telling it like is", then we are in for some strange times in the near future. My God, the man could be, if events were to tilt a bit crazily, the next President. In the Oval Office. With the nuclear codes.
On the other hand, how have promises of income parity, free college and God knows what other unicorn deliverances (without specifics) been able to light up young faces as if the messiah had just arrived? Bernie Sanders, for those without colored glasses, is a ruthless politician who verbally dismembered his Senate opponents in Vermont. He caucuses Democratic, but votes NRA. Didn't matter to Bernie how many children died at Sandy Hook, or how it shook the nation, Bernie voted to absolve gun merchants and make sure every sales loophole stayed open. This man (at least from an admittedly brief look at his record), has done virtually nothing in the Senate. He's been in that body a few years shy of Hilary's two terms, but his record is the proverbial molehill next to Clinton's mountain.
If either of these gentlemen (let alone the brittle Ted Cruz) should snare the Presidential ring, I am moving far, far away.
Maybe Neverland.
On the other hand, how have promises of income parity, free college and God knows what other unicorn deliverances (without specifics) been able to light up young faces as if the messiah had just arrived? Bernie Sanders, for those without colored glasses, is a ruthless politician who verbally dismembered his Senate opponents in Vermont. He caucuses Democratic, but votes NRA. Didn't matter to Bernie how many children died at Sandy Hook, or how it shook the nation, Bernie voted to absolve gun merchants and make sure every sales loophole stayed open. This man (at least from an admittedly brief look at his record), has done virtually nothing in the Senate. He's been in that body a few years shy of Hilary's two terms, but his record is the proverbial molehill next to Clinton's mountain.
If either of these gentlemen (let alone the brittle Ted Cruz) should snare the Presidential ring, I am moving far, far away.
Maybe Neverland.
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Bravo! Telling it like it is. And if you do look closer at his Congressional record, you will still find no substantive accomplishments.
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Ugly state of affairs.
Illinois has election day registration.
The idea behind that is that the more people that vote, the better the democracy.
Illinois has election day registration.
The idea behind that is that the more people that vote, the better the democracy.
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As with most things, more is not necessarily better. If people won't, or can't, bother to figure out that they need to register before the election, then I don't think their votes should count as much as mine, if at all.
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G,
Your response shows a definite disdain for democracy.
Would it be simpler just to let the money (market) run the show?
Your response shows a definite disdain for democracy.
Would it be simpler just to let the money (market) run the show?
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No, not at all. I don't have a disdain for democracy. And I didn't say anything about letting money or the market rule. I do, however, have disdain for those who are too lazy to exercise their right to participate in our democracy.
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Apparently New York has taken a cue from Arizona on how to run elections. Polling places have been closed and/or moved without notice. After decades of voting in the same public school the normal polling location was moved and my wife was sent to an alternative location and then and a second to attempt to cast her vote. This without any notice from the NYC Board of Elections. In a state that already makes it nearly as hard as Alabama to register to vote. What a travesty.
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Now New Yorkers know what it feels like to live in OH in every election cycle!
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The moral failure of the Democratic Party can be squarely blame upon the shoulders of the party elites, their donors, and the Clinton campaign. Income inequality nationwide is at an alarming rate with the middle class dying through the abyss of poverty and yet, the Democrats really don't care. Instead, registered Democratic voters would vote against their own economic interests by supporting a presidential candidate who is in the pockets of Wall Street, the rich donor class in Hollywood, has ties to the Panama Papers, and was caught using a private email server containing classified intelligence from the State Department while serving under Obama. That's a sham folks. I was once a Democrat many years ago, but now I don't recognized my party or my Democratic friends who are backing Clinton. I am an independent, but considered myself blue collar liberal in my mind. If Sanders was on the general election ballot right now, I would vote for him in a heartbeat. But if the Democrats choose Clinton as their party nominee come June, then kiss any chances from me of even supporting her goodbye because I wouldn't. She is a cancer to the Democratic Party. She is the worst type of candidate that will destroy the meaning of being liberal in American politics. I would rather vote for crazy Trump come November if the election comes down between him and Hillary Clinton.
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Your comment shows personal abuse and should be deleted. You won't be crowing in 2018 about your vote for Trump. Trust me, an older & wiser voter and citizen. If you are SO against the excellent & qualified Secretary Clinton, then write in Sen. Sanders' name as your protest. But for democracy's sake, please don't plan to vote for Trump.
I do have to remark though, as a regular reader of the Times political coverage and the Comments section, that every time Sanders loses a big one, his supporters come out, hysterically whining, complaining that perfectly fair, long-established RULES and procedures are somehow "rigged."
Try growing up and facing realty instead. You might like it!
I do have to remark though, as a regular reader of the Times political coverage and the Comments section, that every time Sanders loses a big one, his supporters come out, hysterically whining, complaining that perfectly fair, long-established RULES and procedures are somehow "rigged."
Try growing up and facing realty instead. You might like it!
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"Mr. Stringer said in a statement that the Board of Elections had confirmed that more than 125,000 Democratic voters in Brooklyn were dropped between November 2015 and this month. At the same time, about 63,000 were added. The decline occurred “without any adequate explanation furnished by the Board of Elections,” Mr. Stringer said." How convenient for Hillary since Sanders is from Brooklyn. And I thought the Republicans had cornered the voter suppression market.
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The rigid rules of the unDemocratic Party of New York are yet another way the system is rigged against Bernie.
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One would have to join the Democratic Party to participate in the Democratic primary and benefit from the Democratic Party infrastructure. Probably Sen. Sanders' thinking when he came so late to the party last November.
Kind of makes sense for people to register as Democrats to participate, doesn't it? Otherwise, you would be left with a mess like the Republicans are having when a real oligarch can literally buy his way onto the ticket.
Poor Bernie, rules are rules, and they didn't happen overnight. In the future, some can be changed, like declaring your party affiliation closer to the primary. You can't be both an Independent and a Democrat if you want to run at the top of the Democratic ticket. Anyone is free to run as an Independent. Or vote as one.
Kind of makes sense for people to register as Democrats to participate, doesn't it? Otherwise, you would be left with a mess like the Republicans are having when a real oligarch can literally buy his way onto the ticket.
Poor Bernie, rules are rules, and they didn't happen overnight. In the future, some can be changed, like declaring your party affiliation closer to the primary. You can't be both an Independent and a Democrat if you want to run at the top of the Democratic ticket. Anyone is free to run as an Independent. Or vote as one.
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Filling in that circle for Hillary, and feeling that the country is truly ready to elect a woman president, was a small, but tremendously moving moment in my day.
To think that a century ago women didn't even have the vote, it almost brought me to tears.
To think that a century ago women didn't even have the vote, it almost brought me to tears.
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Yes we will all be crying buckets of tears for years.
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Well, maybe this will please you again..
http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-f...
http://www.thenation.com/article/chronicle-of-a-honduran-assassination-f...
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I guess while you are watching us we're watching you.
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I have noted the frequent accusations of bias against the Times. FWIW, I reject them.
I think the people writing these accusations are engaged in a sort of hit-and-run guerrilla campaigning and I wish they would quit. It seems to me that the Times is doing what it always does: reporting the news.
I think the people writing these accusations are engaged in a sort of hit-and-run guerrilla campaigning and I wish they would quit. It seems to me that the Times is doing what it always does: reporting the news.
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New Yorkers appear to be buying a bridge in Brooklyn from Trump.
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I just voted and I could not help but notice the Congressional delegates were not only identified by name but also by gender. Simply amazing. Why not put their religion up there also. Then their race and ethnicity and don't forget to throw in their age. I don't know if the Republicans did that also. If so I will be doubly offended.
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It's likely Donald Trump has found someone with a recording of one of Hillary's speeches to Wall Street and bought it for use in the general election.
Or if not yet, he's probably offering money around until he can find one.
Hillary's stonewalling on this is just delaying the inevitable. What do you think Trump would pay for the tape if it would get him elected?
That bomb will drop sooner or later.
Or if not yet, he's probably offering money around until he can find one.
Hillary's stonewalling on this is just delaying the inevitable. What do you think Trump would pay for the tape if it would get him elected?
That bomb will drop sooner or later.
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Sure, it's right there with his copy of President Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. There's unlikely to be anything in speeches like that except platitudes anyway. Most of the Republicans I've read were salivating at the idea of a Socialist who honeymooned in the USSR as the Democratic candidate. But, as has often been said, either Sec. Clinton or Sen. Sanders would have far better policies and appoint far better Supreme Court justices than Mr. Trump or Sen. Cruz.
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"struggled to energize her supporters in the state"?? Seriously? According to polls, she has a lead in this state! And "younger voters, college students and disaffected working-class voters" aren't exclusively white; why imply that these groups are separate from the black vote? How is it that even though the most experienced candidate is nearly certain to win, we still hear this narrative of failure? Hillary is ahead in the popular vote. She is winning big time - and she's winning because voters are enthusiastic about her and voting for her.
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Trump has more integrity than Bernie IMO, because he isn't lying, we see what he is, he has it all hanging out. Bernie on the other hand, is slick. He uses his passionate rhetoric, along with a phony Brooklyn accent - his old friend said it wasn't as strong when they were roommates in college - with a barrage of ominous insinuations, face-making, gesticulating and finger jabbing to win over mobs of people. Populist, that's all he is. Describing his father as a "Polish immigrant," with zero reference to his Judaism early on was enlightening - what Polish Jew is Polish? Then he brings out the Jewish only to disparage Israel in an untruthful way, as if he's the first politician to question Israel. He's a fraud. Hoping for Hillary! And by the way, my 19 year-old niece at the State University at Albany voted for Hillary today, so all the young people aren't Bernie supporters!
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Today, my 87-year-old father was put into a dementia unit. And guess what? His medicare does not cover it, nor will his medicare supplement insurance plan.
So, we now must run his entire life savings dry before he qualifies for Medicaid.
My father worked for 45 years, averaging 65 hours a week, in order to save for his family. We never had new cars, new clothes, and ate out less than five times in our lives. We never took a single vacation as a family.
Now, all that savings will get siphoned into our for-profit healthcare system.
The Oligarchs have won.
So, we now must run his entire life savings dry before he qualifies for Medicaid.
My father worked for 45 years, averaging 65 hours a week, in order to save for his family. We never had new cars, new clothes, and ate out less than five times in our lives. We never took a single vacation as a family.
Now, all that savings will get siphoned into our for-profit healthcare system.
The Oligarchs have won.
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If your father was indigent his care would be paid for by the rest of us. He's not indigent, but you still feel the rest of us should pay for his care in order for your inheritance to remain intact. Really?
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I'm very sorry about what has happened to your father. My mother, too, suffered from dementia and her care exhausted much of my parents' savings because that care wasn't covered by Medicare. But aren't savings meant to provide for the needs of the elderly? Or do you think life savings are meant to be protectef for heirs by having taxpayers foot the bill?
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America has had past election disasters, but I trust our brainier voters to sort out the Sheep from the Goats.
While retaining sensible reasoners from past elections, our nation is educating all of our newer voters about critical issues that would affect the lives of all of us for good or ill.
We all want what is best for all of our citizens.
While retaining sensible reasoners from past elections, our nation is educating all of our newer voters about critical issues that would affect the lives of all of us for good or ill.
We all want what is best for all of our citizens.
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Surely the Times, a publication with supposedly scrupulous standards, would have foreseen the use of the title "Our Woman in New York.." as somewhat bias? What's more insulting is the subtle, almost indiscernible rhetoric that so clearly favors Clinton.
Furthermore, where is the mention of the controversial registration purge and the pending motion with a Federal District Court carrying the possibility of an open primary? Of course there's no mention of such events, as bringing attention to them would only bolster the possibility of the Times' beloved candidate losing her "home" state.
Disclaimer: I am a Bernie supporter.
That's not so hard is it?
Furthermore, where is the mention of the controversial registration purge and the pending motion with a Federal District Court carrying the possibility of an open primary? Of course there's no mention of such events, as bringing attention to them would only bolster the possibility of the Times' beloved candidate losing her "home" state.
Disclaimer: I am a Bernie supporter.
That's not so hard is it?
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If it was truly unbiased, the Times would force Maggie Haberman, the author of this piece and the "woman" referred to in the headline, to change her name to something gender-neutral, for example "Pat". Then the title of the column could be changed to "Our Reporter in New York" and no unfair advantage would accrue to either candidate.
Disclaimer: I am being sarcastic.
Disclaimer: I am being sarcastic.
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It's a conspiracy.
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Reading about the deferred decision about opening the democratic primary. NYT experts, how likely is that? I thought I couldn't vote, but if I can, I'd like to.
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You can go to your polling place and ask to fill out an affidavit and cast a conditional ballot. Good luck!
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I heard on WBAI FM radio this morning that approximately 60,000 registered voters will not be able to vote in the Empire State today because the registrations mysteriously changed, making them ineligible to vote today.
In addition, Bill de Blasio was indicating how perplexing it is that in Brooklyn there was a 7% degrease in registered voters...
Now most people know that in New York City is mostly registered Democrats probably 98% , so this does not impact the GOP NY primary as much as the Democratic primary today.
Even more interesting on the WBAI broadcast was that Empire State ranks 44th , which is below the states of Texas, North Carolina and Mississippi, in voter registration rights and this is after those states recent changes in their voting process...
So the Empire State is such a fitting name when it comes to the reality of voting rights.....
In addition, Bill de Blasio was indicating how perplexing it is that in Brooklyn there was a 7% degrease in registered voters...
Now most people know that in New York City is mostly registered Democrats probably 98% , so this does not impact the GOP NY primary as much as the Democratic primary today.
Even more interesting on the WBAI broadcast was that Empire State ranks 44th , which is below the states of Texas, North Carolina and Mississippi, in voter registration rights and this is after those states recent changes in their voting process...
So the Empire State is such a fitting name when it comes to the reality of voting rights.....
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The Democratic party has been cooking elections in NY since before the Civil War.
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Was "degrease" in the comment intentional?
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Yes.... but it should have been "degreased"
If Clinton fails to win, her campaign will be as close to dead as it's possible to be. In that instance, one might even expect her to throw her support behind Bernie. Of course, the VP slot would be open...
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LOL--good morning! Perhaps now you'll reverse completely your comment above and then maybe you'll be on to something since Bernie is the only one on his way out of the race.
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What an exciting time for politics in America. I can't wait for this election to be over.
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2nd week of november it starts all over again
Imagine what it would be like to fight in WW2. Months of bombardment, fear of death at every turn. Imagine what it would be like to be a Russian soldier in WW2 taking back Berlin with millions of your fellows dead behind you.
This is nothing. It's the price of being in hard fought debate. Get tough. Argue Passionately about the issues that shape our world. Are we not men? Sanders 2016
This is nothing. It's the price of being in hard fought debate. Get tough. Argue Passionately about the issues that shape our world. Are we not men? Sanders 2016
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When I voted today, the ballot had, in addition to Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, a list of delegates who were committed to each. What I do not understand is that there were six delegates shown for Clinton and only five for Sanders. I asked several poll workers why more delegates were assigned to Clinton than to Sanders. No one had the slightest idea. Looks to me like the delegate assignment is rigged to favor Clinton. And this is the DEMOCRATIC Party?
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Last Sunday, I was supposedly "polled" for 20 minute on my phone by a California Democratic Association (I never really learned its official name). They asked me a lot of questions about Jerry Brown, current topics, like fracking, oil, etc., before getting to Hillary and Bernie in detail, they asked me who I plan to vote for. "Hillary," I told them. Then they asked me 7 questions on Bernie, asking me to respond on a scale of 1 to 10 how favorably I wd respond to their Bernie questions/comments.... It soon became obvious they were polling -- and trying to persuade -- me to vote for Bernie instead. The catching word in each paragraph the wanted my response to was ONLY.....Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate supporting global warming (how stupid a question can that be given that Tom Steyner from San Francisco just gave HRC $100 million to support global warming!). They presented some good statements on work Bernie had done or planned to do, but they kept using the word "only," ...he is the ONLY candidate, etc.
Then after I graded their questions, getting lower the more times I heard "only," they finally went back and asked me who I would vote for after my interview....the answer was more clearly Hillary, bc the poll had been typically politically, manipulative and deceitful. I like Bernie a lot more before being polled.
Then after I graded their questions, getting lower the more times I heard "only," they finally went back and asked me who I would vote for after my interview....the answer was more clearly Hillary, bc the poll had been typically politically, manipulative and deceitful. I like Bernie a lot more before being polled.
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Weird. I've done volunteer phone calls for Bernie Sanders and the script wasn't anything like that. Maybe the effect the call had on you -- diminishing your opinion of Sen Sanders -- actually WAS the intended effect. There are a lot of weird PACs and weird grey-propaganda strategies out there.
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The negativity has to end if a Democratic candidate is to follow President Obama into the White House. Hillary Clinton is highly qualified, despite comments made last week. Simplistic slogans should be left to the Trump people.
And exactly who paid for that chartered 767 last week to Rome, with all the family members, the Secret Service agents, etc.? Isn't that against campaign finance laws if it came from donations?
And exactly who paid for that chartered 767 last week to Rome, with all the family members, the Secret Service agents, etc.? Isn't that against campaign finance laws if it came from donations?
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So far I (a New York voter) have read over a hundred comments - and some have complained that Bernie Sanders would fit in more properly running as an Independent - well ...
Wouldn't Hillary Clinton fit in more properly running as a Republican?
Wouldn't Hillary Clinton fit in more properly running as a Republican?
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Eh, no. Are you even remotely familiar with the Republican party? Hillary supports reproductive rights, supports the ACA, supports Dood-Frank, opposes the privatization of Social Security, opposes the voucherization of Medicare and Medicaid, supports the Iran nuclear control program, agreed with the decision in Obergefell, disagreed with Citizen's United, and Hobby Lobby, . . . the list goes on and on.
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Only if the existing Republican candidates actually ran as fascists.
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You forgot "Supports killing children in ME".
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Independent voters knew Sanders was running under the Democrat ticket at least a year ago. Their failure to register under the two parties long ago is no fault of the New York government. It looks like the Sanders camp is looking for an excuse when he loses.
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GetMeTheBigKnife, you're right about some people, but what about those people who strangely found themselves non-Democrats, who had voted in the last several elections? What about those who DID register in time, only to get a bunch of bull that they are not Democrats? What about a deadline eight months before the primary to register as a Democrat? That's not just unfair, it's a fix to suppress the vote, clear and simple, which is why there's a lawsuit out for it against both NY and Arizona, as it should be. If the Democrats are so great, then they can have an open election and their so-called great candidate can win, but it has to be fixed, because without it, they KNOW she'll lose. I have news for you, though: She will lose anyway, as she will be indicted and it will happen before the convention. How can anyone in their right mind want someone as President, who was as careless with top secret emails as that woman was. I would love to have a woman President, but an honest one. Elizabeth Warren, are you listening?
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Go Hillary! We Love you out here in California too! I grew up in Vermont and I hope you CRUSH today! Go Hillary!
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"Give Us the Ballot" by Ari Berman sums it up. A Candidate, unfortunately, is selected not elected and that is because of antiquated voting laws that benefits the machinery. Hence, what is good for the machinery is never good for the people, that is the nature of the beast. One's gender, race or religion has nothing to do with it, the idea is the "house" always win until the people decide it time for the people to win and mandate that laws be changed.
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Interesting narrative by supporters of Sen. Sanders: Whenever Hillary Clinton wins in the primary season, it's only because of those low-information black voters in the South like me. When Bernie Sanders wins in the primary season, it's because everyone has seen the light, the truth, and the glory of the coming of our Bernie.
When Bernie Sanders loses in the primary season, it's an fraud. A election scam. A cheat of the democratic process! Bernie didn't know New York's primaries were closed to independents before he ran for President of the United States! Harry Reid paid every single restaurant worker in Las Vegas to vote for the shill Hill! We're going to sue everyone until we get our desired result and go all Mulder and Scully until the truth is out there!
The upside? All of this nonsensical, drama-queen agitating must be burning a lot of calories for folks. Just in time for swimsuit season.
When Bernie Sanders loses in the primary season, it's an fraud. A election scam. A cheat of the democratic process! Bernie didn't know New York's primaries were closed to independents before he ran for President of the United States! Harry Reid paid every single restaurant worker in Las Vegas to vote for the shill Hill! We're going to sue everyone until we get our desired result and go all Mulder and Scully until the truth is out there!
The upside? All of this nonsensical, drama-queen agitating must be burning a lot of calories for folks. Just in time for swimsuit season.
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@Erika
Correction: When Bernie Sanders wins is because THAT is a mostly white state! You know, like . . . Hawaii!?
Correction: When Bernie Sanders wins is because THAT is a mostly white state! You know, like . . . Hawaii!?
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I wish journalists would stop coupling Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump together as if they are related. They are as far apart as you can get . I am a Hillary supporter and find it insulting to see them constantly in the same headline.
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Think of how insulted Trump feels.
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I will vote for the Clinton's under any circumstances because they do not tell the truth.
The FBI needs to look into the practice of candidates paying for a delegate's flight to the convention, and rooms and meals at the convention. I understand that under the law this is legal, however, a quid pro quo where a delegate promises his vote in exchange for anything of value from the candidate is absolutely ILLEGAL under all state laws. Its not simply the payment for the flight, rooms or meals, but rather the quid pro quo. The FBI is very good at following the money to catch criminals. Now that the FBI can break into cell phones, they will be able to see if the Cruz campaign has agreed to pay for a delegate's convention expenses, and if the delegate has made a commitment to support Cruz on the second ballot. If such activity is uncovered, my concern is the source of the money used to bribe any delegate who took money for their vote will likely be RNC money who has already shown they will do anything to stop Trump. At a minimum, paying for a delegate's convention expenses does not pass the smell test.
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"...voting was overshadowed by official confirmation that more than 125,000 people were missing from New York City voter rolls and reports of other irregularities." C'mon NY - you can do better than this.
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Do better? They did great. You don't think was an accident, do you?
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I voted today at my polling place in Queens in the middle of the afternoon. There were tables for three different precincts, with two or three poll workers manning each table. There were a few others guiding voters guiding voters to the booths, and showing them how to insert their ballot in the scanning machine. I estimate there were at least 10 poll workers.
How many voters were there at that time? I was the only one that I saw with a ballot in hand or at a voting booth. I suppose the before-work crowds were there in the morning, and the after-work voters will be there this evening, but based on what I saw the turnout was dismal.
In some countries people are dying in order to get the right to vote.
How many voters were there at that time? I was the only one that I saw with a ballot in hand or at a voting booth. I suppose the before-work crowds were there in the morning, and the after-work voters will be there this evening, but based on what I saw the turnout was dismal.
In some countries people are dying in order to get the right to vote.
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Voter fraud and disfunction in the mechanics of voting should be examined and corrected. But, people you've had seven plus years to register as a democrat or republican in ny, and if you haven't felt the need to or weren't paying attention, then too bad, so sad, but you shouldn't be complaining now.
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The problem is not just--or even primarily--people who didn't register. People who WERE registered and had voted in consecutive elections for years suddenly found themselves removed from the polls and thus disenfranchised--by the THOUSANDS. In fact, by the tens of thousands. And there is no explanation for it other than stunning incompetence--or worse--on the part of the New York Board of Elections.
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Just look at the tide of Sanderites washing over the Comments section here, as they have in Comments on the Times' editorial pick. I swear, that's all they must do, is hang around the Times' site so that they be first to post and gather the thumbs-ups of their fellow lurkers, as though thumbing-up Sanders comments will somehow secure the Second Coming.....er, I mean, the Messiah.... uh, I mean, Sanders the nomination.
But let me add this: the Sanders supporters have to be one of the most politely vituperative bunch I've yet to see in Comments sections. So convinced are they in the populist choice that is Sanders that they are astounded -- astounded, I say! -- that not everyone is Seeing The Light in the way they have. They should be warned that staring at the sun for too long leads to blindness. Sanders Sunglasses [tm] anyone?
But let me add this: the Sanders supporters have to be one of the most politely vituperative bunch I've yet to see in Comments sections. So convinced are they in the populist choice that is Sanders that they are astounded -- astounded, I say! -- that not everyone is Seeing The Light in the way they have. They should be warned that staring at the sun for too long leads to blindness. Sanders Sunglasses [tm] anyone?
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It's difficult not to be so forthright with our political objectives when the media so unabashedly favors the establishment candidate. Even if one were to argue that outlets like the Times, although we all know who they're in favor of, aren't overtly supporting Clinton, there's no doubt the media has systematically shunned the growing support of Sanders. What's more insulting is the incessant sarcasm brought about when we point out the obvious, of which Clinton supporters don't want to hear. I'll be the first admit that I'm a hypocrit in some respects, but at least I don't deny the incontrovertible.
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You okay?
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"Systematically shunned" huh? Maybe Bernie is just not that interesting. Because it's never has anything to do with the candidate, it always some ephemeral power, the media, the DNC, being corrupt and unfair.
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"Our Woman in New York Day"
I'll take that as an unqualified admission that you've bought and paid for Hillary Clinton?
I'll take that as an unqualified admission that you've bought and paid for Hillary Clinton?
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"Our woman" refers to the journalist.
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"Our Woman in New York" means "Maggie Haberman", and it has been so for the last 24 hours.
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It refers to the reporter, not the candidate.
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It is understandable that many voters are confused and frustrated by New York State's arcane primary rules, especially those who are experiencing it for the first time. Indeed, compared to other states, NY is fairly strange, but so are plenty of other states (including caucus states, which are still something of a mystery to me).
It's not a conspiracy, it's just party politics, and if you think Bernie can do away with party politics just because he's not really loyal to any political party, well, think again. It ain't gonna happen.
It would be great, in my opinion, if this election resulted in a splintering of both major parties. Four would be better than two in this day and age. But change will take time and, most importantly, more voter involvement during midterm elections. We'll see if the Bernie craze has any long-term impact on behavior of left-wing voters, but in all likelihood, we'll just hand the House and Senate back to the GOP in 2018, as usual...
It's not a conspiracy, it's just party politics, and if you think Bernie can do away with party politics just because he's not really loyal to any political party, well, think again. It ain't gonna happen.
It would be great, in my opinion, if this election resulted in a splintering of both major parties. Four would be better than two in this day and age. But change will take time and, most importantly, more voter involvement during midterm elections. We'll see if the Bernie craze has any long-term impact on behavior of left-wing voters, but in all likelihood, we'll just hand the House and Senate back to the GOP in 2018, as usual...
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Re voter fraud:
The NYT may not think it's worth covering, but the Jerusalem Post thought different:
"A New York City official on Tuesday ordered an audit of the city's election authorities, citing "deep concern over widespread reports of poll site problems and irregularities" as voters cast their ballots in the state's primary election."
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/New-York-City-watchdog-decries-irregu...
The NYT may not think it's worth covering, but the Jerusalem Post thought different:
"A New York City official on Tuesday ordered an audit of the city's election authorities, citing "deep concern over widespread reports of poll site problems and irregularities" as voters cast their ballots in the state's primary election."
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/New-York-City-watchdog-decries-irregu...
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Do you really have to go all the way to Israel to find an article that purportedly supports your allegations? That particular article only mentions problems at polling places and does not allege voter fraud. Why don't you die-hard Sanders supporters just come out and say with a straight face that it's a massive fraud directed by the Clinton campaign, instead of making insinuations?
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It's doubtful that poll site problems and irregularities consist of voter fraud. Voter fraud occurs when, for example, a ballot is cast in a dead person's name or someone votes more than once. And the NYT has covered what Jpost covered, but hey, most of the time I get my news on Israel from Israeli news websites and then read the same stories a few days later in the NYT.
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Hillary managed to find western NY and to support policies favorable to it in the Senate for eight years, eight years more than any other U.S. Senator in fifty years. Western NY will manage to find Hillary on the ballot.
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She also managed to find Wallstreet.
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It certainly paid off for her financially.
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Well at this late stage no one is going to influence to switch much, but I continue to dig for information instead of listening to the same old talking points or diatribe against Hillary because I know I will continue to read articles and blogs. Voila!
Whoop whoop - all hail to Wall Street.
"In 2006, when Sanders ran for the Senate, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee pumped $37,300 into his race and included him in fundraising efforts for the party's Senate candidates.The party also spent $60,000 on ads for Sanders, and contributed $100,000 to the Vermont Democratic Party -- which was behind Sanders even as he ran as an independent.Among the DSCC's top contributors that year: Goldman Sachs at $685,000, Citigroup at $326,000, Morgan Stanley at $260,000 and JPMorgan Chase & Co. at $207,000.
"http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/
Whoop whoop - all hail to Wall Street.
"In 2006, when Sanders ran for the Senate, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee pumped $37,300 into his race and included him in fundraising efforts for the party's Senate candidates.The party also spent $60,000 on ads for Sanders, and contributed $100,000 to the Vermont Democratic Party -- which was behind Sanders even as he ran as an independent.Among the DSCC's top contributors that year: Goldman Sachs at $685,000, Citigroup at $326,000, Morgan Stanley at $260,000 and JPMorgan Chase & Co. at $207,000.
"http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/sanders-democratic-fundraisers/
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Sooo, using some of the money contributed by Goldman, Citi, MS & JPMorgan, in 2006, the DSSC gave to Sanders roughly $100 k. Which is less than half of what Goldman directly paid Hillary to talk for one hour in 2014. Three times.
Yeah, that's about the same thing.
Yeah, that's about the same thing.
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Can't wait to see how the Sanderites twist themselves into a knot explaining this one away. Oh, they'll say, he didn't collect as much as Clinton. Anything but, well, the facts. And the fact is, Clinton has raised money for the DNC for up and down the ticket. Sanders gloats about his $27 contributions that support only Bernie, because, well, it's all about Bernie, isn't it?
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That's what GS pays anyone who talks to them at their invitation - they don't invite boring anonymous speakers. You can see one of her speeches on-line. She commends the corporations who've moved women into positions commensurate with their abilities, promotes equal pay, addresses the need to create opportunities for women in all sectors, in all countries, for the good of families, corporations, nations. She's made millions selling books. She intends to be in public office. She needs to keep both her friends and her enemies close.
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One area where Hillary Clinton is very vulnerable is that she has no achievements. No can can celebrate her many achievements as the eight year Senator from NY or as the Secretary of State. She held those positions in her quest for the top office but she just "put in her time" and accomplished virtually nothing in her her tenure at either post. Would you really vote for President for someone who hid a Top Secret E-mail server in her home bathroom?
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Calling Agent 99. I guarantee Hillary doesn't know very much about servers or what they do. The whole email-gate is a cooked-up scandal.
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On the contrary, during her period as Secretary of State, important fence mending was done after the disasters of Bush foreign policy. She pushed for global LGBT rights in the same way she consistently has done for rights for women and girls. Clinton has established ties with world leaders and great familiarity with foreign affairs. She was deeply involved in the environmental talks in Copenhagen, increasing exports to China, sanctions on Iran that later encouraged the negotiations, the cease fire in Gaza, ratification of the START treaty, etc. This is invaluable experience for a president. As senator, of course, she supported the 9/11 responders, helped reservists and National Guard members get full medical benefits, etc. She helped create the Children's Health Insurance Program that has assisted millions of children.
[It was a right wing slur about data kept in a bathroom, and of course has been debunked. http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/20/joe-scarborough-hypes-right-... Any minute the right wing is going to demand to see Hillary Clinton's birth certificate to prove she wasn't born in Kena.]
[It was a right wing slur about data kept in a bathroom, and of course has been debunked. http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/20/joe-scarborough-hypes-right-... Any minute the right wing is going to demand to see Hillary Clinton's birth certificate to prove she wasn't born in Kena.]
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Oh brother...it's a "Top Secret E-mail server in her home bathroom" now is it? Must say, that story gets better and better every time it's retold. Forgot to throw in Benghazi or White Water though...
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Welcome to the 20th century New York!
These pics of polling places crack me up. Podunk Oregon (Cover Oregon debacle) seems light years ahead of everyone with vote by mail and a secretary of state website where you can change your party affiliation days before an election in order to vote in primaries. Line up at a polling place? No thank you.
These pics of polling places crack me up. Podunk Oregon (Cover Oregon debacle) seems light years ahead of everyone with vote by mail and a secretary of state website where you can change your party affiliation days before an election in order to vote in primaries. Line up at a polling place? No thank you.
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I love going down to the polling place! A grand tradition.
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Somehow, we out here in the provinces have managed not to be bought and trousered by the DNC. I hope that the rest of the country will rise up to demand some change in their own states in regard to future primaries. I can't imagine having to switch my registration six months in advance of having the complete lowdown on all of the candidates. Everyone should have the time required to educate oneself about the candidates, their records, and their perspectives on the issues before implementing one's own voting scheme (in my case, switching from Independent to Democratic to support Bernie) in order to vote in their own best interests and those of the country.
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Hey. wait just a darn minute. Podunk Oregon? We may be small, but Oregon is not podunk. Vote by mail is just one of the innovations that Oregonians are proud of. It works great. The only fraud we have experienced was committed by a Republican official who tried to throw out Democratic votes and got caught. It works great.
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We can hope the three ancient fraudsters in this primary disappear well before the national election, lest one of them win the election and expire in office instead.
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To welcome people on election day with the headline "Hillary Clinton heavily favored to win" is not responsible reporting, it is an editorial statement and one designed to influence voting decisions at the last minute. A shameful exercise by this publication. Heavily favored by whom, indeed? You? Pundits? Pollsters? Just say "We strongly favor Clinton" if that's what you mean.
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There is an argument to be made that polling shouldn't be used before elections. but the fact is Hillary is 13 points ahead for the last 2 weeks according to aggregate polling. . Do we really want to limit the press to sanctioned articles?
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If you want to know why HRC is "heavily favored," this is as clear as it gets. 14 polls by 12 different organizations since April 1, all point to the same general conclusion...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democ...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democ...
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Talku: Well if the polls are wrong, Sanders gets to pull a Truman.
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I wish I could come across a media outlet that is not a propaganda wing for one political party/candidate or another. It's really sad what our media has devolved into.
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How on earth will they be able to declare a winner tonight when so many people were thrown off the voting rolls and polling places were closed until noon?
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There is no proof whatsoever that "so many" voters were removed unlawfully or wrongly from voting rolls.
First of all, there were only reductions in Dem voting rolls in 7 out of 63 counties. The rest had increases. In Brooklyn, evidently, precincts had fallen behind in their housekeeping, so what appears to be some sort of purge is simply the result of a normal, expected (albeit late) administrative task.
I don't doubt that there are some mistakes and confusion on the part of election officials and voters alike, there always are, but it is fairly absurd to suggest there's some vast conspiracy underway in 7 (out of 63) counties in a staunchly Democratic state to remove active Democrat voters from the rolls. Why would they do this and how would it be done in a way that benefits Clinton? "Take all those hipsters off the voter rolls!" Is that what they did?
First of all, there were only reductions in Dem voting rolls in 7 out of 63 counties. The rest had increases. In Brooklyn, evidently, precincts had fallen behind in their housekeeping, so what appears to be some sort of purge is simply the result of a normal, expected (albeit late) administrative task.
I don't doubt that there are some mistakes and confusion on the part of election officials and voters alike, there always are, but it is fairly absurd to suggest there's some vast conspiracy underway in 7 (out of 63) counties in a staunchly Democratic state to remove active Democrat voters from the rolls. Why would they do this and how would it be done in a way that benefits Clinton? "Take all those hipsters off the voter rolls!" Is that what they did?
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It's still involved more than 100,000 voters in Brooklyn, members of my family included. The mayor is calling for an investigation. I don't know who did it or why, I just know that it clearly happened.
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And my question remains. How will they be able to declare a winner tonight when all these people were unable to vote? There were places where the polls did not open until noon. This had not been announced previously. What about all of those people who have to vote before they go to work in the morning? How much time do they think people have on their hands to stand around straightening this out? And once again: How will they be able to declare a winner?
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Oh, posh...who cares to waste precious time following the political thugs in the governance industry who benefit financially and with access to power keep the naive schlubs under wraps. Truth be told, political theatre, now completely co-opted by the media, managed by the federal government, is a dangerous evil that has cast the people of the United States into two major world wars and over three hundred international invasions since 1945. The fire that is represented by one-tenth of one percent can only be fought with fire. There is no smoke to be found anywhere.
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Funny how the "naive schlubs" are always the other guys. And those world wars weren't worth fighting? Better stop playing with matches, Dusty, and start wasting your precious time on subjects like history.
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I looked at my ballot today and noticed that it instructs the voter to choose seven delegates as well as a candidate. One candidate had seven delegates and the other only had five. I asked the polling worker if I HAD to choose seven in order for my vote to count and they said no. I suggested that they make this clear to other voters who might choose five for their candidate and two others for the other candidate in order to make the total seven. They were not so interested in doing that...
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I really do not know where these polls come from. Many, Many younger African-Americans are voting for Bernie Sanders, not Ms. Clinton. My sister is a republican and is voting for Cruz. Please either do the polling right, or forget it.
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@Larry Michigan
"I really do not know where these polls come from."
Assuredly you don't, or you would not have the rest of us bank on your anecdotal count of "Many, Many younger African-Americans" who are voting for Sanders (how many is "many many"? and how did you determine that?)
As far as "My sister is a republican and is voting for Cruz" -- and therefore?
"I really do not know where these polls come from."
Assuredly you don't, or you would not have the rest of us bank on your anecdotal count of "Many, Many younger African-Americans" who are voting for Sanders (how many is "many many"? and how did you determine that?)
As far as "My sister is a republican and is voting for Cruz" -- and therefore?
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The pollster's sample size is larger than you group of acquaintances.
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Sisters don't let sisters vote for Cruz!
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I thought New York was going to put Bernie Sanders out of his misery, but I can see he just flew a private jet down to Pennsylvania. Some people just don't know when to leave a party. Communists are notoriously bad when it comes to etiquette. Maybe one of the trust fund babies, who used to follow the Grateful Dead but now follow Bernie around, could maybe give him a little push in the direction of the Exit door.
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Your snark about the candidate that I support does not inspire me to change candidates.
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I've seen enough of Clinton and her supporters to have made the decision not to support her already. I hope many more follow me if need be.
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Thanks you helped me make up my mind. No Hillary vote in November
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A geriatric, antiquated voting "system" is on full display in the so-called Empire State
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Oh, how I wish Barack Obama could run for a third term.
He will be seen as one of our greatest Presidents despite all the years of GOP slander and obstruction.
He will be seen as one of our greatest Presidents despite all the years of GOP slander and obstruction.
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Obama's running for a 3rd term would be a gift to republicans. Recall how well they did running against him in the last mid-term.
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Recall how he crushed the Republican nominees in 2008 and 2012.
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How would I possibly believe that Bernie could successfully cause the Senate to implement universal health care as a right, when he could not even successfully cause his Senate colleagues to provide adequate oversight to the VA?
Why would I possibly believe that a man who has held the Democratic Party in disregard for 20 years and almost never campaigned for any other candidate would do well at helping down ballot candidates and increase the turn out for Democrats voters in the mid-terms?
Here's what would happen if Bernie made it into the White House. He would be so incompetent and unprepared that he would set back the progressive cause for a generation.
Why would I possibly believe that a man who has held the Democratic Party in disregard for 20 years and almost never campaigned for any other candidate would do well at helping down ballot candidates and increase the turn out for Democrats voters in the mid-terms?
Here's what would happen if Bernie made it into the White House. He would be so incompetent and unprepared that he would set back the progressive cause for a generation.
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And how could Hillary, so loathed by republicans, accomplish anything in a republican Congress? Hillary's abrasive personality isn't going to win any converts from the republican party.
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But dear, if you hadn't noticed, Hillary is no Progressive and will never work for any progressive causes. Isn't it time we had a true progressive in the White House--and the true progressive candidate is Bernie.
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I agree that the Republicans in Congress are terrible and probably will not cooperate with any president who is not Republican. If, in fact, sweeping legislation is not a possibility, then the entire premise of the Sander's presidency made pointless. By contrast, Hillary is (i) a terribly effective diplomat (Bernie has not diplomatic experience), and (ii) has extremely substantial experience in the executive branch as first lady and cabinet secretary (Sanders as none). Additionally, Hillary was every bit a successful senator as was Bernie. She was a very well respected senator. If there is an opening for some progressive legislation, she will be just as suited as Bernie to move it through Congress.
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Please, New Yorkers, vote for Bernie Sanders today! Hillary is too willing, even anxious, to get us involved in conflicts overseas, particularly in the ME, but not limited to that area. In my opinion, she is a Neocon dream come true!
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While I still have a little bit of respect left for this publication- Please cover the 126,000 voter purged without explanation from voter rolls in Brooklyn. By rights afforded in the constitution, created by Bill Clinton in 93' it is illegal to purge voters within 90 days of an election and records of purges must be kept for 2 years. This is the biggest story of the primary in New York. The city's Mayor has brought into question and is demanding answers as well. Do we live in a democracy?
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I can personally attest that I was purged from the rolls. And I'm not even in Brooklyn (Inwood). Had to vote with an affidavit ballot, despite having a perfectly valid voter registration on hand. I renewed it in September - so more than in time. Go figure.
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This will prove to be a non-story. The facts already out there, and they are quite mundane. Precincts must do housekeeping with their rolls. Some precincts fall behind in that task from time to time. The majority of those "purged" names were long listed as inactive, and after a certain period they are, by rule, removed from the rolls. Others are known to have died or moved. Some others were moved from active to inactive based on their non-participation in recent elections. (If some of these folks happen to turn out, they can vote but might get a provisional ballot; more likely, they are dead or moved somewhere else.) That's all there is to it.
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Actually, no, it's not a democracy. It's a representative republic with elements of a democracy. Remember that, once upon a time in the U.S., U.S. Senators were not chosen directly by the people. And what about the Electoral College as opposed to the popular vote? And so on. Democracy? Maybe at a New England town meeting.
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Once again, Clinton has avoided a major catastrophe by not agreeing to release the transcripts of her speeches to Wall Street. If she had done so before today's primary, then many of her loyal backers may have had second thoughts about voting for someone who speaks one way and acts just the opposite. And, unfortunately, there is no way that you can compare releasing tax returns to releasing her transcripts.... It was a very clever ploy to delay accountability and show her true colors....Before the day is over my hope is that enough New Yorkers wake up to who is actually on the side of the common person....It is definitely not Hillary Clinton.....
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Speak up if you know what's in these transcripts!
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I read the transcript of one of her speeches. It was all about how good it is that women are participating more in the upper levels of business (and other social structures).
What, exactly, do you think might be on her other speeches? I'm honestly curious to know what Clinton's opponents are so worked up about, besides the large pay day.
What, exactly, do you think might be on her other speeches? I'm honestly curious to know what Clinton's opponents are so worked up about, besides the large pay day.
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@Darth Vader, I'll be honest, I don't know what's on those transcripts, but you must admit that Clinton's responses these questions are ridiculous. I wasn't even THAT concerned about it until she began putting up such a ridiculous fight to keep them secret. She draws suspicion to herself with her bizarre dance around this issue.
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I'm a bit surprised that of the five candidates only Trump and Clinton will be in NY tonight. The others have already flown on to Pennsylvania for votes a week from now. So much for supporting their campaign volunteers, the 291 delegates representing voters on the Democratic side, and the 95 delegates on the Republican side. As the kids say, I suppose when it comes to New York it's 'kthanxbye'.
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Time is tight, look how much time Hill spent in Wisconsin.
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Time must not be all that tight - since Bernie left the state with one of the largest delegate hauls to fly on a private jet to Rome to meet the Pope for five minutes.
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I think it's pretty standard politicking. My guess is everyone's internal polls confirm the public ones, and it's much better to be elsewhere if you're not going to win, so you can say, "We brought the good fight in NY, and now the great people of PA are going to move forward to help fix everything wrong with America!" Cheer!
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What's amazing is that some people actually believe that their last minute expositions on what's happening today is actually going to change the results or influence one vote.
Perhaps venting and expressing oneself is good therapy when you know your candidate is going to lose. Makes you feel better when you going down with the ship and swallowing the water that is going to finally put you under.
But take heart. We will always be there to throw you a life preserver provided, of course, you promise to vote for us in November instead of "writing in" Nader.
Perhaps venting and expressing oneself is good therapy when you know your candidate is going to lose. Makes you feel better when you going down with the ship and swallowing the water that is going to finally put you under.
But take heart. We will always be there to throw you a life preserver provided, of course, you promise to vote for us in November instead of "writing in" Nader.
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In the annuls of history, Ralph Nader will be recognized as the great US citizen he is. And Hillary Clinton, well, she may still be in prison.
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Annals, not annuls.
"Because my knowledge and understanding of our country and its history are deep, from study, age and experience."
(LOL)
"Because my knowledge and understanding of our country and its history are deep, from study, age and experience."
(LOL)
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she hasn't been sent there yet, buckaroo!
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Many comments here by seemingly long-time Democrats are very disturbing to me. I'm not going to register independent, since I would never, ever vote for any Republican - but I am really shocked at how partisan and outright vile some of you are re: Sanders and especially his supporters. Do you want young people to keep this party alive in the future or not? I have no loyalty or commitment to the Democratic party and neither should any of you but I will stick it out even if HRC becomes the nominee - don't count on all of us to do the same with your unwelcoming attitudes. The two major parties have a stranglehold on democracy in this country and this attitude of "who's the real Democrat" just tightens its grip. You're acting like Republicans.
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Well said.
As an aside, being an independent does not mean you would consider voting Republican.
As an aside, being an independent does not mean you would consider voting Republican.
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"Do you want young people to keep this party alive in the future or not?"
What party? The Democratic Party means NOTHING to Old Bernie or to his cult. He's not a Democrat, and 21% of those who found the energy to vote for him in the Wisconsin primary didn't bother to vote for the down-ballot Democrats at all. They left the ballot blank.
Old Bernie's followers are lazy and clueless. Their knowledge and understanding of our country and its history are non-existent, as is their concern about the "future". They want pie-in-the-sky, and when they realize it's not forthcoming, they'll go back to bed.
What party? The Democratic Party means NOTHING to Old Bernie or to his cult. He's not a Democrat, and 21% of those who found the energy to vote for him in the Wisconsin primary didn't bother to vote for the down-ballot Democrats at all. They left the ballot blank.
Old Bernie's followers are lazy and clueless. Their knowledge and understanding of our country and its history are non-existent, as is their concern about the "future". They want pie-in-the-sky, and when they realize it's not forthcoming, they'll go back to bed.
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future? a future where big corproations and their lackey politican rule the country. Say hello to a 60 hour work week, no health care, no affordable housing, overcrowded living conditions, our natural resources depleted, water, air, land polluted, forests deforested, honey bees, wildlife gone... oh, excuse me, this is going on today... a future with the likes of clinton or Trump will only get worse.. Wake UP!!!
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When asked if the row of delegates next to the presidential candidate on the Democratic ballot were aligned with the candidate, or whether picking any six, as it says at the top, would require them to support the selected candidate on the first ballot, the poll person told me "It doesn't matter. Pick any six." Wrong!, I later learned by calling the Board of Elections.
Am I the only one who thinks the ballot is not perfectly clear?
Am I the only one who thinks the ballot is not perfectly clear?
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Why didn't Bernie Sanders run as an Independent for the presidency, rather than his attempt to run as a pseudo-Democrat and kvetch his way through all the primaries that the system is "rigged" to support Democrats?
Funny too that this "New Yorker" is not even eligible to vote in New York, because he's a Vermont resident.
Funny too that this "New Yorker" is not even eligible to vote in New York, because he's a Vermont resident.
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Sure. Bernie is not a "real" New Yorker. Like Hillary!?
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Funny, too, that Hillary Clinton, a native Midwesterner transplant who lives in Westchester and who has lived in Arkansas and Washington, D.C., has the chutzpah to call herself a "New Yorker."
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People from the Midwest, like Hillary, do not have "chutzpah."
They have "moxie." I looked it up on Googletranslate.
They have "moxie." I looked it up on Googletranslate.
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Hello? We may not be in the millions, but we are voting Upstate too.
I'd like to think our votes actually do count this time around despite those of you in the 5 boroughs.
I'd like to think our votes actually do count this time around despite those of you in the 5 boroughs.
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Your votes count MORE! Every congressional district gets the same number of delegates! Get out there and vote!
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Going forward, I just wish that the candidates and the media start asking and answering specific questions, and having true discussions of inquiry and debate on specific issues. What to do about Assad and ISIS? What to do about entrenched racism? What to do about the drug wars? What exactly to do about immigration (for the Democrats) and the increasing number of refugees in the coming years as well as those we have now? What to do about gender equality in the workplace? These are the things that affect us every day. For now we are getting only character assassination sound bites. We need to have real debates.
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Going forward, I just wish all campaigning was banned until 90 days before primaries.
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You get sound bytes on television news and spotty reports on mainstream news outlets. Plus most've it is skewed toward the favor of Mrs Clinton. - If you want to get more into what candidates are talking about go to you tube and type in Sanders speech in Brooklyn yesterday. You'll get the whole speech he gave in front of 28,000 people. It's a forceful and focused speech. you don't get this at all on the news.
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Honestly, Bernie Sander is the only qualified person and a realistic person who can work for the nation. I used to be republican, but the disgusting republican choice, made me dump the party and correct myself.
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How does one go from being a Republican to hailing a socialist? I'm pretty skeptical of this. It's kind of like going from vegan to carnivore. I'm not saying you can't do it, but I'm curious as to what could possibly cause such a swing.
Meanwhile, you have an eminently qualified, competent, and relatively moderate candidate in HRC. I'm sure you'll call her corrupt, but to date (over 25 years) nothing anyone has flung at her has actually stuck or withstood the light of day.
Meanwhile, you have an eminently qualified, competent, and relatively moderate candidate in HRC. I'm sure you'll call her corrupt, but to date (over 25 years) nothing anyone has flung at her has actually stuck or withstood the light of day.
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He's a democratic socialist.
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Trump and Sanders actually have a lot in common when it comes to economic issues and trade ie both are pushing to disrupt the "ruling elite" and get jobs back for middle class Americans. Neither are beholden to big money interests and both speak their mind, albeit in vastly different manners. That being said, a lot of Sanders supporters' second choice is Trump and vice-versa. I was initially a Trump supporter but now Sanders because of Trump's rhetoric.
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It's interesting to observe how many who "feel the bern" are convinced that the nirvana preached by Bernie already exists in Scandinavia, Western Europe, Civilized world, or "the rest of the world". Much of that conviction based on the talking points issues by Bernie's campaign, as well as the fond memories from the year of "college abroad" or a summer of Eurorail adventures.
The reality is , of course, much more complicated. Education is almost never free anywhere. You fees, you pay taxes, or you pay bribes. Or some combination of those. Same for healthcare.
Many coutries which experimented with socialism found themselves quickly backtracking as they lost competitiveness and stalled in progress. There are old lessosn which been learned. But not by Bernie's supporters.
The reality is , of course, much more complicated. Education is almost never free anywhere. You fees, you pay taxes, or you pay bribes. Or some combination of those. Same for healthcare.
Many coutries which experimented with socialism found themselves quickly backtracking as they lost competitiveness and stalled in progress. There are old lessosn which been learned. But not by Bernie's supporters.
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Please don't presume to know the minds of Bernie's supporters. You simply don't.
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Those that backtracked only did so because of a general uprise of right-wing populism, fuelled by the Paris terror attacks.
I'm an European, and I've lived in many of those countries you call socialist (apparently with no clue of the word's true meaning). I got and still get free health care, got free education, and despite the fact that it's paid by taxes I pay less then I would do in America.
But yeah, cling on being the laughing stock of the world when it comes to social services.
I'm an European, and I've lived in many of those countries you call socialist (apparently with no clue of the word's true meaning). I got and still get free health care, got free education, and despite the fact that it's paid by taxes I pay less then I would do in America.
But yeah, cling on being the laughing stock of the world when it comes to social services.
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Yuri- the Ukrainian. nice try but no one is expecting nirvana. Sanders at least will make a strong go for leveling the playing field, or do you support the coninued decline of the middle class and lower classess going lower, under by policies of the last 5 Presidents? I'll take a little Democratic socialism over right wing, or corrupt Democratic Presidents. sincerely - anothe fellow Ukrainian who also isn't a right wing nationalistic fanatic like most Ukrainian Americans. You can fool many Anglo-Americans who haven't a clue what most Ukrainian-Americans are like, but you can't fool people like me.
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Is it just me or do the stories of Bernie's negative campaign seem to be greatly exagerated? It's the narrative the Clinton supporters are spinning certainly, but I'd hardly call this a negative campaign on either side although it does seem to be teetering on the verge of getting on everyone's last nerve.
I'm a gay man who voted for Bernie - it seems most of my fellow gay men voted for Hillary based on a poll by gay "dating" app Scruff - but that seems to hold true to my general concensus among friends I've polled on my own. It saddens me to see so many gay people turn their back on a man who has listed gay rights as a priority since 1972 - a year before I was born and a year before homosexuality was no longer considered a mental illness.
Good luck today Mr. Sanders - I'm pulling for you, and no matter what you are showing us that the neoliberals have not entirely squashed the true liberal voices.
I'm a gay man who voted for Bernie - it seems most of my fellow gay men voted for Hillary based on a poll by gay "dating" app Scruff - but that seems to hold true to my general concensus among friends I've polled on my own. It saddens me to see so many gay people turn their back on a man who has listed gay rights as a priority since 1972 - a year before I was born and a year before homosexuality was no longer considered a mental illness.
Good luck today Mr. Sanders - I'm pulling for you, and no matter what you are showing us that the neoliberals have not entirely squashed the true liberal voices.
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I suspect that you haven't had to endure the months of insults from Sanders supporters on these comment boards whenever you mention Hillary Clinton or supporting her. Beyond some misogyny, there has been a disturbing trend to attack Clinton voters as being low information or from regions of the country that don't count or categorizing them perniciously. There may be a blind spot there.
However, I much admire the Sanders supporters for their enthusiasm (when they are not bashing Clinton people). Sen. Sanders of course is on the side of the angels usually.
However, I much admire the Sanders supporters for their enthusiasm (when they are not bashing Clinton people). Sen. Sanders of course is on the side of the angels usually.
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Seventy percent of my community is voting for her - I've had many insults and FaceBook unfriends thrown my way thank you very much. I'm not quite sure why Hillary supporters seem to always play the victim when both sides are being equally hard on each other.
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We've known for weeks (months if you've read Nate Silver) that Clinton and Trump were going to win in New York.
Why is this a spellbinder?
The only big mysteries left in this interminable race are whether Trump will actually sue Cruz (as promised) over his alleged "natural born citizenship", and whether Clinton will try to fake moving to the left once she gets worried about the November results.
Frankly, Garland's nomination to the Supreme Court is infinitely more interesting than the election campaign.
Why is this a spellbinder?
The only big mysteries left in this interminable race are whether Trump will actually sue Cruz (as promised) over his alleged "natural born citizenship", and whether Clinton will try to fake moving to the left once she gets worried about the November results.
Frankly, Garland's nomination to the Supreme Court is infinitely more interesting than the election campaign.
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Yeah, right. First of all, you make it a closed primary, then, the same group wants the people they excluded to vote for them in the regular race? This time, the democrats are going to pay big time for rigging this thing. And just food safety, let's unenroll voters all over the state, and let's hit Brooklyn hard. I can't wait until the republicans kill the thieves in November.
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Why should Hillary "fake" moving to the left, or even do it in fact, when Bernie diehards won't vote for her anyway?
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Rigging? There are closed primaries in a bunch of states...how about those caucuses? Try harder.
The big decision this day is not whether to vote for Bernie and his truly progressive vision for change, including the way politics are financed. That I will eagerly do. The big decision is, after doing so, whether or not the quit the Democratic party which has clearly lost its progressive vision, and become an Independent voter like so many others have done. We need change. Hillary is not change.
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It's not about you. It's about the country. Too many people seem to only attuned to their feelings, not to the possible results.
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So when you say "It's not about you " ... it's about me?
Got it!
Got it!
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I go to my polling station at 6:10am and as with every election for years, the place is complete chaos...there are people in line to vote (the poll supposedly opened at 6am) but the workers haven't set up the registration tables, the voting booths are not set up and the vote scanner is not ready...one of the workers comes to the line of voters and apologizes for the delay by saying most of the assigned workers never showed up (same excuse two years ago). The two policeman assigned to the site for security are actually doing most of the set up.
I leave, go have breakfast and come back at 6:45...now people are voting. But there's only one worker registering voters even though this station covers two voting districts.
Eventually, I sign in, complete the ballot, and go stand in line to scan my form. The person ahead of me in line inserts her ballot into the scanner and jams the scanner. The workers and the policemen start trying to call "headquarters" on their cell phones saying they need a technician to come clear the scanner. But none of them can get their calls through as they only get busy signals.
Eventually, one of the workers starts working at the scanner trying to get it clear which she does, and I'm able to scan my sheet (the woman whose sheet jammed the scanner has to start all over with a new sheet).
I've lived in the same location for 18 years and voted at the same polling station all that time and it's always the same pathetic circus.
I leave, go have breakfast and come back at 6:45...now people are voting. But there's only one worker registering voters even though this station covers two voting districts.
Eventually, I sign in, complete the ballot, and go stand in line to scan my form. The person ahead of me in line inserts her ballot into the scanner and jams the scanner. The workers and the policemen start trying to call "headquarters" on their cell phones saying they need a technician to come clear the scanner. But none of them can get their calls through as they only get busy signals.
Eventually, one of the workers starts working at the scanner trying to get it clear which she does, and I'm able to scan my sheet (the woman whose sheet jammed the scanner has to start all over with a new sheet).
I've lived in the same location for 18 years and voted at the same polling station all that time and it's always the same pathetic circus.
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You should volunteer to work at the polls. Very few people do and that's the problem. I've done it and it's great fun and actually fulfilling. You are right that there never seems to be enough help. Same reason that 98% of Americans don't serve in the military. "Let the other guy do it."
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the polling plaaces and Elections Dept are controlled by the N.Y. Democratic Party machine, so whatever problems there are, either, A) it's out of incompetence or B) it's all planned so as to insure Shillary gets the nod.
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I know some Bernie bros would blame it on Hillary. She's obviously been causing the chaos CWJ is describing for the past 18 years so Bernie doesn't win.
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I never get an answer from Sanders supporters as to why they think their candidate is justified in crashing the Democratic Party's nomination process when he has made a holier-than-thou career out of thumbing his nose at mainstream Democrats. Show some integrity and honesty and run under your Democratic-Socialist banner rather than butting-in on the Democrats like an entitled brat.
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Many young people who turned 18 after October so could only register their party affiliation when they first registered to vote now find they are on the rolls as Independent, & not the party they chose! Since New York is a closed primary, they are thus denied their right as American citizens to vote! They are filing affidavits which are NOT being accepted at many polling places. So much for the Democratic Party. What a charade.
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Because Bernie has always been a reliable Democratic vote in Congress, more reliable than some Democrats.
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He's voted with the Democrats on most issues. Not sure what you mean about "thumbing his nose" at them.
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Just voted! No problem; no ID; just five minutes in and out. Turnout seemed light on the Democratic side, but heavier for Republicans. But, this is Long Island. I vote Dem--always. But this time, I didn't follow the Party nor The Times line. We'll soon know if Hillary is the Tom Dewey of our time.
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Concerning that the NYtimes isn't covering the amount of trouble people are having at the polls, with independents being shut out, and people's platform switching mysteriously. Even Trumps' kids can't vote for him. But hey, anything that's a plus for Clinton, right?
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Trump's kids aren't as smart as daddy thinks...in most state primaries around the country you have to be registered in the party of the primary you want to vote in. Some states allow crossing over, but no matter where you live it doesn't take much to find out how your state handles this....it's always in the local press and if in doubt check your county clerk's web site or call them.
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Up in Albany, kids who recently registered to vote & chose a party came to the polls & found themselves listed as Independents & were denied the right to vote!! Some of them signed affidavits which then we're not accepted by the officials in charge. Some called into WAMC to complain, some called the newspapers. Don't think this will be the end of the Dems trying to push Hillary over the line.
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There may well be a formal inquiry into voting irregularities on the Democratic side. Let's hope.
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I pledge to vote for Trump if Clinton wins the nomination.
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yeah, you do that and then let us know how that face looks without a nose.
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I pledge to write-in Bernie's name if Hillary gets the nomination.
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That's show 'em! Do you feel better now?
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This from the "Updates":
"Mr. Sanders also seemed to be drawing political neophytes to the polling place, which was set up in the gymnasium of a Salvation Army outpost. Meghan Wisner, 27, said she had never voted before Tuesday, but had come to support Mr. Sanders because “he’s for the people” and for lowering the cost of an education.
“I work two jobs,” said Ms. Wisner, a barrista and gas station attendant. “And I’m still struggling.”"
Unbelievable! my teenager cannot wait for the day when she can vote.
Ms. Wisner: you work two jobs and struggle because you are 27 years old and have never voted before this, particularly skipping midterm elections where all policies that effect YOU are made.
We really do deserve the government we get!
"Mr. Sanders also seemed to be drawing political neophytes to the polling place, which was set up in the gymnasium of a Salvation Army outpost. Meghan Wisner, 27, said she had never voted before Tuesday, but had come to support Mr. Sanders because “he’s for the people” and for lowering the cost of an education.
“I work two jobs,” said Ms. Wisner, a barrista and gas station attendant. “And I’m still struggling.”"
Unbelievable! my teenager cannot wait for the day when she can vote.
Ms. Wisner: you work two jobs and struggle because you are 27 years old and have never voted before this, particularly skipping midterm elections where all policies that effect YOU are made.
We really do deserve the government we get!
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You're right, but there is also the perspective that his candidacy is having a positive impact in the system overall by attracting new voters.
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How about applauding this person for learning to participate, rather than denigrating them? What purpose does that serve? Do you think that encourages them to engage later? Or does it just make you feel better about yourself?
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Not to worry, His Royal Highness King Sanders will simply provide everyone in his Kingdom with a magic lamp to rub and all their dreams and wishes will come true...and even the lamps will be "free!"
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Re Sanders' petition to open the Democratic primary to all comers -How, exactly, is this any different from Trump's complaints about the GOP rules for selecting a nominee? It isn't.
Sanders will continue to complain, wherever he loses to Clinton, that the process was rigged, usually by blaming "big money", Wall Street and the top 1%. And when and where all else fails, he'll continue to impugn Hillary Clinton's integrity by suggesting strongly that her votes just have to have been bought because she plays by the rules and -- gee, guess what -- the rules are rigged.
So, how come we managed to elect the first black POTUS using those same rules. Which, one should add, POTUS used as well.
It is past tiresome to listen to Sanders continue to imply that he's the only honest person in Congress. His rumpled, avuncular appearance does not quite manage to hide the teeth-bared nastiness and anger that he has displayed and all but the first of his televised debates. This is a not-nice man who happens to have an appealing populist take on our economy (which I do share), and absolutely no record of, or idea of how to effect such change. Enough already.
Sanders will continue to complain, wherever he loses to Clinton, that the process was rigged, usually by blaming "big money", Wall Street and the top 1%. And when and where all else fails, he'll continue to impugn Hillary Clinton's integrity by suggesting strongly that her votes just have to have been bought because she plays by the rules and -- gee, guess what -- the rules are rigged.
So, how come we managed to elect the first black POTUS using those same rules. Which, one should add, POTUS used as well.
It is past tiresome to listen to Sanders continue to imply that he's the only honest person in Congress. His rumpled, avuncular appearance does not quite manage to hide the teeth-bared nastiness and anger that he has displayed and all but the first of his televised debates. This is a not-nice man who happens to have an appealing populist take on our economy (which I do share), and absolutely no record of, or idea of how to effect such change. Enough already.
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Totally agree, Alice. When Bernie decided to join the Democratic party this past November after a lifetime as an independent, he also signed up for the rules of that party. Trying to change them now because they're not working in your favor—in addition to maligning them as "rigged"—smacks of disingenuousness, sour grapes, and desperation.
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@ Alice Colorado
Thanks for telling it exactly like it is. My 16-year old niece (YIKES! She will vote in the next general election!) is a politically savvy 10th grader at Berkeley HS, than which it does not get more left wing. Yet, she understands that Bernie Sanders hasn't got what it takes to win in November, understands the two-party system, understands that if you don't like it you have to work from within to change things, and also understands that past performance is a good predictor. She and her friends have looked more closely at Senator Sanders record than most of the "Berners"
Thanks for telling it exactly like it is. My 16-year old niece (YIKES! She will vote in the next general election!) is a politically savvy 10th grader at Berkeley HS, than which it does not get more left wing. Yet, she understands that Bernie Sanders hasn't got what it takes to win in November, understands the two-party system, understands that if you don't like it you have to work from within to change things, and also understands that past performance is a good predictor. She and her friends have looked more closely at Senator Sanders record than most of the "Berners"
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"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
This statement by Ms. Haberman is a deliberate distortion of what Sanders said during the debate. It is a smear, nothing less.
This is what Sanders said:
“Look, let me acknowledge what is absolutely true. Secretary Clinton cleaned our clock in the deep South. No question about it. We got murdered there. That is the most conservative part of this great country. That’s the fact. But you know what? We’re out of the deep South now. And we’re moving up.”
So what did he mean by referring to the deep south as “the most conservative part” of the country? Isn’t it obvious that he was simply saying that people from this area of the country in general, blacks included, hold more conservative values? And therefore they are more likely to support a candidate that has more conservative political positions - Clinton - than a progressive - Sanders.
It was simply a statement of reality to explain why he was beaten so badly in these states, not a “thinly veiled jab ” at blacks.
It is now clear to me that there is a “thinly veiled” effort by major media outlets to stop Sanders’ insurgent campaign. As Sanders threatens Clinton’s nomination we are now seeing the big money interests moving behind the scenes to stop him.
This statement by Ms. Haberman is a deliberate distortion of what Sanders said during the debate. It is a smear, nothing less.
This is what Sanders said:
“Look, let me acknowledge what is absolutely true. Secretary Clinton cleaned our clock in the deep South. No question about it. We got murdered there. That is the most conservative part of this great country. That’s the fact. But you know what? We’re out of the deep South now. And we’re moving up.”
So what did he mean by referring to the deep south as “the most conservative part” of the country? Isn’t it obvious that he was simply saying that people from this area of the country in general, blacks included, hold more conservative values? And therefore they are more likely to support a candidate that has more conservative political positions - Clinton - than a progressive - Sanders.
It was simply a statement of reality to explain why he was beaten so badly in these states, not a “thinly veiled jab ” at blacks.
It is now clear to me that there is a “thinly veiled” effort by major media outlets to stop Sanders’ insurgent campaign. As Sanders threatens Clinton’s nomination we are now seeing the big money interests moving behind the scenes to stop him.
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Excellent comment. It appears big money owns most of the media and they seem to be working overtime to discredit Bernie. All the more reason for everyone to get behind Bernie, send contributions and, most importantly, VOTE. There is a reason they don't want him to be the nominee.
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I wouldn't say the efforts by the NYT or any other major media outlet are "thinly veiled." They are blatant enough to be understood by everyone as, "Hey, people, it's Hillary's turn; she's the candidate of the 1-5% Democrats; she is OUR candidate, so get in line with the corrupt DNC and the now Repugnant Democratic Party and cast your pitiful vote for Hillary Clinton. No thanks.
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It's more blatant than that. Young voters excited by Bernie, registered to vote in droves & found when they got to the polls they were listed as Independent, meaning they couldn't vote in this closed primary. That's how the party is stacking the deck for Hillary. The fallout from this fraud will continue after tonight.
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I know that Bernie Sanders will do very well in Westchester County, where Hillary lives, and that was true of Obama in 2008.
There's two Congressional Districts in Westchester, the more conservative C.D. is that of Nita Lowey, who represents Rockland and northern Westchester Counties. Nita's District, where Hillary lives, is likely to vote for Clinton.
Eliot Engel's C.D.includes the northern Bronx and southern Westchester, and is very progressive, Jewish, Black, Hispanic and Italian. Bernie will do very well in Engel's Congressional District.
I live and am politically active in in Westchester's second largest city, New Rochelle, with 44,000 registered voters, 52% of whom are Democrats. I am certain that Bernie Sanders will do well among New Rochelle's many African-Americans, and probably among Hispanics too. New Rochelle has a large Jewish community, most of whom are Reform, Conservative or relatively unreligious; but mostly politically progressive. Hasidics are rare anywhere in Westchester.
There's two Congressional Districts in Westchester, the more conservative C.D. is that of Nita Lowey, who represents Rockland and northern Westchester Counties. Nita's District, where Hillary lives, is likely to vote for Clinton.
Eliot Engel's C.D.includes the northern Bronx and southern Westchester, and is very progressive, Jewish, Black, Hispanic and Italian. Bernie will do very well in Engel's Congressional District.
I live and am politically active in in Westchester's second largest city, New Rochelle, with 44,000 registered voters, 52% of whom are Democrats. I am certain that Bernie Sanders will do well among New Rochelle's many African-Americans, and probably among Hispanics too. New Rochelle has a large Jewish community, most of whom are Reform, Conservative or relatively unreligious; but mostly politically progressive. Hasidics are rare anywhere in Westchester.
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In and out in about twenty minutes. Easy, organized, and no one I saw had any trouble getting their ballot. In fact, they poll watchers were very nice about replacing my ballot when I made a mistake. The new system has lots of voting stations, so there are no longer lines backing up when one voter takes a huge amount of time to mark a ballot that has absolutely no surprises.
All in all, not much more difficult than getting a grande latte on the corner.
All in all, not much more difficult than getting a grande latte on the corner.
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Not the case up here in Albany where new young voters are being told they are really Indrpendents & can't vote (cause their party registration was never sent in to headquarters! How convenient; how Hillary.
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If one is going to vote, it might be a good idea to learn the rules before trying. Just saying.
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@Elizabeth O'Neil
"How Hillary" ????
I understand Hillary is also responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs; global warming; last week's earthquakes; the Zika virus; rising infertility in developed nations -- and the general ignorance of you (and "new young voters") of NY's registration laws and their connection to all those posting here about newly registered "independents" who can't vote in party primaries.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/new-york-primary-deadline...
I recommend you inform yourself that a party primary is not a general election, but a means for a political party to select its own candidate. If you don't like "closed" primaries, take it up with the NY State authorities -- states determine the rules for primaries, not Hillary Clinton -- or Bernie Sanders or any other candidate.
"How Hillary" ????
I understand Hillary is also responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs; global warming; last week's earthquakes; the Zika virus; rising infertility in developed nations -- and the general ignorance of you (and "new young voters") of NY's registration laws and their connection to all those posting here about newly registered "independents" who can't vote in party primaries.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/new-york-primary-deadline...
I recommend you inform yourself that a party primary is not a general election, but a means for a political party to select its own candidate. If you don't like "closed" primaries, take it up with the NY State authorities -- states determine the rules for primaries, not Hillary Clinton -- or Bernie Sanders or any other candidate.
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The Platonic objection to democracy is that an uninformed electorate should not chose city-state leaders.
Not only are American voters uniformed, they are misinformed and disinformed with thousands upon thousands of 30 second, untruthful commercials.
But what does it matter Mr. Plato if the electorate is clueless when the likely candidates will be a choice between unadulterated evil and adulterated evil?
Not only are American voters uniformed, they are misinformed and disinformed with thousands upon thousands of 30 second, untruthful commercials.
But what does it matter Mr. Plato if the electorate is clueless when the likely candidates will be a choice between unadulterated evil and adulterated evil?
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The 1930's are calling and they would like back their Straussian attacks on constitutional democracy.
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Whatever the shortcomings of closed primaries the good certainly outweighs the bad as they prevent voter mischief at the polls in the form artificially boosting a potentially weaker general election candidate in the primary by voters from the 'opposition' party, which is its own kind of voter fraud.
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Bernie is hardly a "weaker" candidate as much as the Clintons would have you believe. But here in Upstste NY, new voters are being told they can't vote because somehow their party affiliation was never sent down to headquarters! They're trying to file affidavits which are not always being accepted. I think the outcome may well be contested.
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The entire staff at Borough Hall were friendly and helpful. Everything went accordingly until my husband and I had to witness a very disturbing incident that left me shaking with rage. An old lady (white) was upset at not finding her name at her polling place, went on a rant at the staff (hispanic and black ladies), repeatedly berating them as being inferior to a dog (we brought our pooch), saying how a dog can read better and more intelligent then them, and how she pays tax, blah blah blah... I couldn't believe this happened in NYC, in my neighborhood! I felt so sorry for the staffs! They have every right to be angry at this lady, but they showed upmost cordiality and restrain the entire time.
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Many people are finding they've been purged from the polls. This is being considered massive voter fraud.
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Good grief: a conspiracy around every corner with these Bernie folk....
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Happening up here in Albany to first time voters, many of them new young ones (like my grandson & his friends). And they're not all for Bernie.
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How is it not sexist and ageist to refer to Sanders supporters as "Bernie Bros"? I'm just curious, because there seems to be a bit of double standard here.
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Oh good grief Jethro, what are you talking about. “Bro“ is common slang and I use it all the time with both male and female friends, and I am female btw.
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Yes, Jules, but it is used as a slur against Bernie supporters. We are considered abrasive and bad mannered simply because we are Bernie supporters.
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Another female from CA here, and none of my female friends use it with each other, nor do any of my male friends use it with their female friends... It clearly refers to young males.
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Odd that anyone would think Old Bernie could beat the Republican candidate. Just because the Republicans have said little or nothing about Old Bernie doesn't mean their oppo research teams aren't ready for him if he should be the Democratic nominee.
(I love our country, so naturally I want Hillary to be the President, but it would be entertaining to watch debates between Trump and Old Bernie.)
(I love our country, so naturally I want Hillary to be the President, but it would be entertaining to watch debates between Trump and Old Bernie.)
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You may want to have a read here:
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-s...
If you think a lying establishment candidate like Clinto which is paid for by the 1% and has so many issues that she's much more of a liability than an asset will have any chance against any Republican nominee you need to get your head examined.
It's really Bernie or bust. Literally.
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-s...
If you think a lying establishment candidate like Clinto which is paid for by the 1% and has so many issues that she's much more of a liability than an asset will have any chance against any Republican nominee you need to get your head examined.
It's really Bernie or bust. Literally.
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Ageism rears it's ugly head. Hillary is 69. Bernie is 74. What's the 5 year difference? I say old Hillary cause she's been around since forever.
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Why is it "ugly" to point out a candidate's age? You seem to be scrabbling for something to criticize.
Old Bernie is too old to be president.
Old Bernie is too old to be president.
Like a fine whine, I have participated in every presidential election since 1964. Every election night I cried. All but four were cries of suffering. The four exceptions were '92, '96, '08 and '12. Those four were cries of joy. '00 was just one long wail.
I look forward to this years election. As with every election, whether I cry for joy or suffering, I am eternally grateful to live in a country where the transfer of power is peaceful.
I perceive this year to be different then every other year. What I hope for, at minimum, is a tear shed for an incredibly strong, experienced woman to become the first female president of the US. I'm too old and too bitter to hope that a single president can change this inglorious, evil war between the right wing demagogues and those who want to make the world a better place. I've seen what they did to Clinton and Obama. Sec. Clinton will not change the world, but she will make it a little more humane. On a larger scale, I will really shed some tears if the Dems get the Senate back. There is an EXTREMELY important SCOTUS seat on the table. Primarily because those right wing hypocrites who lauded Scalia for his "originalism" now refuse to follow the "original" Constitution.
Plus, I would like to see Sec. Clinton have someone at her back. She has been fighting the good fight (no matter what Bernie says) for a long, long time against the dark forces in the GOP.
She could use some help.
I look forward to this years election. As with every election, whether I cry for joy or suffering, I am eternally grateful to live in a country where the transfer of power is peaceful.
I perceive this year to be different then every other year. What I hope for, at minimum, is a tear shed for an incredibly strong, experienced woman to become the first female president of the US. I'm too old and too bitter to hope that a single president can change this inglorious, evil war between the right wing demagogues and those who want to make the world a better place. I've seen what they did to Clinton and Obama. Sec. Clinton will not change the world, but she will make it a little more humane. On a larger scale, I will really shed some tears if the Dems get the Senate back. There is an EXTREMELY important SCOTUS seat on the table. Primarily because those right wing hypocrites who lauded Scalia for his "originalism" now refuse to follow the "original" Constitution.
Plus, I would like to see Sec. Clinton have someone at her back. She has been fighting the good fight (no matter what Bernie says) for a long, long time against the dark forces in the GOP.
She could use some help.
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In addition to their well-known difficulty with arithmetic - the numbers in various proposals simply do not add up - Sanders supporters are showing trouble with reading as well.
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Not sure how my earlier comment got separated from the original thread, where someone complained about the title of this article without realizing "Our Woman in New York" was referring to Maggie Haberman rather than Hillary Clinton.
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Do the arithmetic.
US currently spends 18% of GDP on healthcare and achieves mediocre results. If US' healthcare costs & outcomes are managed to match the best in class among OECD countries, which currently is around 10% of GDP, it frees up (18-10) 8% of $18 trillion US GDP. That is roughly $1.44 trillion! Our annual budgetary revenue shortfall is roughly $600-$700 million. The annual cost for college tuition (in state) is roughly $70 million. (1440 - 700 - 70 billion) <-- We will still have money left over to fund basic infrastructure improvements. That is money from reforming our wasteful healthcare.
In addition, if we add revenue collected from Wall Street/Hedge Fund speculation, and enforce balanced trade, the economic possibilities for our citizens' well being are endless.
Please feel free to correct the numbers, with verifiable references.
US currently spends 18% of GDP on healthcare and achieves mediocre results. If US' healthcare costs & outcomes are managed to match the best in class among OECD countries, which currently is around 10% of GDP, it frees up (18-10) 8% of $18 trillion US GDP. That is roughly $1.44 trillion! Our annual budgetary revenue shortfall is roughly $600-$700 million. The annual cost for college tuition (in state) is roughly $70 million. (1440 - 700 - 70 billion) <-- We will still have money left over to fund basic infrastructure improvements. That is money from reforming our wasteful healthcare.
In addition, if we add revenue collected from Wall Street/Hedge Fund speculation, and enforce balanced trade, the economic possibilities for our citizens' well being are endless.
Please feel free to correct the numbers, with verifiable references.
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Don't know how you figure in state tuition, but here in NYS, it's $22,000 including room & board, $11,000 commuters. Books & fees on top of that. Back in the nineties, that was the last bill we paid Yale for our youngest son's Senior year.
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I have never felt so much cognitive dissonance about a candidate as I do about Sanders. You look at him, you listen to him, you see him on the stump and you have to like the guy. He is such a breath of fresh air among the politicians. And yet, he so fundamentally wrong in his policies. They are simple reheated old socialist rhetoric which has always failed when tried. It never accounts for millions of years evolution.
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I just have to laugh at this comment because you have obviously not looked at any of his policies and what the rest of the world is like today. How can change come from a candidate like HRC when she takes millions from special interests and is therefore beholden to their interest if she ever takes office?
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You mean health care for all, breaking up the "too big to fail banks", supporting unions, making trade agreements fairer for US workers, fixing our infrastructure, reversing climate change, higher minimum wage, etc? Gee, what pie in the sky goals that have "always failed" in this country because they have never been tried. Look at the many countries in the world who have many of these things who haven't "failed".
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Correction: democratic socialist.
And policies like his have succeeded quite admirably in Canada and the Scandinavian countries.
And policies like his have succeeded quite admirably in Canada and the Scandinavian countries.
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All those touting Bernie's poll numbers vs. Trump need to remember one thing -- Republicans haven't attacked him yet, not nearly the way they've attacked Hillary. If he were the nominee, they'd go after him viciously, branding him a Socialist, and his negatives would increase overnight. Hillary can easily beat Trump or Cruz, so elect-ability is not a reason to choose Bernie over her. And anyone who thinks a Trump/Bernie race would be any less ugly than a Trump/Hillary race is delusional. The Repugs would love to run against Bernie, which is probably why they haven't yet attempted to savage him.
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The Republican'ts will find much more fodder with which to attack Hillary Clinton than with Bernie Sanders. She drags around a HUGE bag of bad Karma, and one of these days it's going to smack her down. I'm sure the GOP is salivating thinking about how they will conduct their very nasty campaign against her.
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You'd think so, but much more would they love to run against Hillary and her long list of failures:
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-s...
It's seems to really be Bernie or bust! Vote for Clinton = Welcome President Trump.
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-s...
It's seems to really be Bernie or bust! Vote for Clinton = Welcome President Trump.
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Our daughter just texted us from Brooklyn she had a hard time voting this morning.
Voter fraud through suppression taking place in her precinct.
She is a registered Dem since 2004.
Voter fraud through suppression taking place in her precinct.
She is a registered Dem since 2004.
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Commenter, Siobhan, posted this earlier w. It may not be voter fraud but Mayor DeBlasio is looking into it. If this link doesn't work you can scroll down and find the original comment.
"Besides tens of thousands of Democratic voters becoming mysteriously "unregistered" there are numerous reports of problems in Brooklyn, including voter sites that never opened."
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/19/3770674/new-york-primary-vo...
"Besides tens of thousands of Democratic voters becoming mysteriously "unregistered" there are numerous reports of problems in Brooklyn, including voter sites that never opened."
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/19/3770674/new-york-primary-vo...
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I wonder, did she vote in the 2004, 08, and '12 primaries for comparison? Is she really a "registered" Democrat, or like many people, has she always voted Dem but actually registered independent those many years ago?
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Tammany Hall delivers NY for HRC!
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Sanders sounded like Chris Christie in the last debate. I'm frankly very tired of his yelling, condescending and mocking sarcasm towards our next woman president. It looks like desperation time.
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@GetMeTheBigKnife
I totally agree with you and so do the kittens and cats in our avatar pictures, so, we're all good :). Hillary 2016 #InWithHer
I totally agree with you and so do the kittens and cats in our avatar pictures, so, we're all good :). Hillary 2016 #InWithHer
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Yes, how dare someone contradict little Hillary. It sounds as though you Hillary (she's a woman so I MUST vote for her) fanatics are beginning to get worried.
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Why should anyone assume that Mrs. Clinton will be the next President? She is not even the Democratic nominee! She is not immune from scrutiny and criticism.
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If this primary season has shown us anything it is that the old two party structure is defunct.
Party IDs:
Independents: 42%
Democrats: 29%
Republicans: 26%
Donald and Hillary are disapproved of by a huge swath of Americans. We have no choice in the matter?
I voted for Clinton and Obama and will never vote for Hillary who is easily the single most corrupt politician ever.
Party IDs:
Independents: 42%
Democrats: 29%
Republicans: 26%
Donald and Hillary are disapproved of by a huge swath of Americans. We have no choice in the matter?
I voted for Clinton and Obama and will never vote for Hillary who is easily the single most corrupt politician ever.
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You should read a little American history if you think Hillary "is easily the single most corrupt politician ever".
(Obviously the Republicans have won the war on education.)
(Obviously the Republicans have won the war on education.)
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Hillary is easily the most corrupt politician in US History. Look at the numbers. How do you make $149 Million in 8 years when you are in public service and in the industrial-sized-charity business?
How do you earn $5000 a minute, $1000 every 12 seconds from Goldman Sachs and Verizon if you are for banking reform and striking workers? You do not.
You should open your eyes, open your ears, open your mind. Our democracy is gone. We are in an oligarchy now and voting for Hillary is the same as stomping on the grave of American democracy.
How do you earn $5000 a minute, $1000 every 12 seconds from Goldman Sachs and Verizon if you are for banking reform and striking workers? You do not.
You should open your eyes, open your ears, open your mind. Our democracy is gone. We are in an oligarchy now and voting for Hillary is the same as stomping on the grave of American democracy.
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Hillary is the politician against whom the most money and bile has been spilled in history to defame her. $40,000,000 of your tax dollars re Whitewater to find--nothing. Nearly $20,000.000 on Benghazi to find--nothing. She must be the cleanest politician in history. She's certainly the one against which a double standard has been most grossly applied. I wonder why.
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My first choice is President Clinton. My second choice would be President Sanders. After that, my third choice is to move to Canada.
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You would have universal health care as a right in Canada.......exactly what Bernie Sanders proposes for us in the U.S.
Why not just vote for Bernie first? (LOGIC)
Why not just vote for Bernie first? (LOGIC)
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It's funny how liberals think just because the US has open borders that every other country does too. Good luck moving to Canada. Better check if they want you first.
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Here is hoping that the polls are in error, and that Bernie beats Hillary easily. With Trump winning the Republican nomination there is a historic opportunity for the Democrats to retake the Senate and Congress. Can you imagine how much more egalitarian and socially just America will become with a Sanders Presidency and a Democratic majority in the Senate and Congress? Do any of Hillary's supporters believe America would be significantly more just under her leadership?
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Gene, that would be great, but after the theft of Illinois, where exit polls showed Bernie winning by 15%, and Mass also showed the same thing. Given the accuracy of exit polls, strange, isn't it?
Bernie still cannot name ONE instance where Wall Street or corrupt corporate Big Money Billionaires have influenced Hillary's voting record or... anything, actually. The speech transcripts mean nothing to me. Now, let's talk about Bernie and his quiet relationship with the NRA. Six pro-gun votes. SIX.
Political corruption score: Hillary Clinton = 0, Bernie Sanders = 6
Political corruption score: Hillary Clinton = 0, Bernie Sanders = 6
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The Clinton era basically deregulated Wall St. in the 90's which lead to the 2008 financial disaster. HRC has taken over $25 million from Wall St. and special interests and plans to not reinstate Glass-Steagall. If you look at her track record, she has flip-flopped on her decisions whenever special interests have donated to the Clinton Foundation or campaign (e.g. Elizabeth Warren's criticism of HRC over the bankruptcy bill which hurt thousands of single mothers and made it harder for struggling Americans to declare bankruptcy). I used to be a HRC supporter until I really learned about her track record and decision-making as a politician.
Fact is Obama never went after Wall St. because he did take money from them later in his campaign, unfortunately.
At worst, HRC is a corrupt and compromised politician beholden to the top 1%. At best, she is a hypocrite and irresponsible for the consequences of her decisions.
Fact is Obama never went after Wall St. because he did take money from them later in his campaign, unfortunately.
At worst, HRC is a corrupt and compromised politician beholden to the top 1%. At best, she is a hypocrite and irresponsible for the consequences of her decisions.
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Terribly sorry, but I have heard Bernie expound on the particulars of Hillary's Wall Street influence peddling many times, and it is well documented. If Sanders is in league with the NRA, then why have they given him a 'D minus' rating? There is no sense to your comments.
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When Senator Warren got elected to the Senate, she changed her viewpoint about Hillary as they worked together in D.C. They have a lot they agree on, including consumer financial protection and Wall Street reform. Senator Warren appears to be reluctant to endorse either candidate because she supports BOTH and doesn't not wish to alienate either one.
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It appears that the Clintons were not just hanging around New York; there were sightings around the polling place of much glad-handing and plenty of Clinton stickers. I thought that was not permitted in New York? Or are the Clintons just "special"? (Like with private e-mail servers.)
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Alison, the Clintons live in New York. So, yes, they were at a polling place today ... in order to vote.
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I like to imagine the Hillary supporters in 1932:
"FDR says he can give everyone jobs? Hasn't he heard of the Great Depression? Be realistic."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1900:
"Teddy Roosevelt says he can break up the big trusts. Does he know how much money those people have? He needs to work with the business leaders, not against them."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1964:
"A giant Civil Rights bill? Come on. Let's be incremental."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1960:
"Kennedy wants to put someone on the moon? How about we get a few more satellites up there first?"
Leadership is not incremental. It is, by definition, ahead of the curve. Or it's not leadership.
"FDR says he can give everyone jobs? Hasn't he heard of the Great Depression? Be realistic."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1900:
"Teddy Roosevelt says he can break up the big trusts. Does he know how much money those people have? He needs to work with the business leaders, not against them."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1964:
"A giant Civil Rights bill? Come on. Let's be incremental."
Or the Hillary supporters in 1960:
"Kennedy wants to put someone on the moon? How about we get a few more satellites up there first?"
Leadership is not incremental. It is, by definition, ahead of the curve. Or it's not leadership.
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You've completely encapsulate my objection to a Sanders presidency!
Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, LBJ (who succeeded largely due to an existing revolution, not a promised one) and Kennedy were all extraordinary presidents who are known for, roughly, ONE great thing each. Sanders has marketed himself as a bank-breaker, equalizer, tax-reformer, climate un-changer, equalizer, peace-bringer... the list of extraordinary promises goes on. You have proclaimed him a political messiah, a role he embraces more enthusiastically each day. This isn't a campaign supported by thinkers. It's a faith supported by ideological adherents.
I would respect Sanders' message if it weren't a laundry list of grievances that could never, ever, ever be addressed by a single President, even under the best of circumstance (which we certainly do not have). You have been sold snake oil.
Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, LBJ (who succeeded largely due to an existing revolution, not a promised one) and Kennedy were all extraordinary presidents who are known for, roughly, ONE great thing each. Sanders has marketed himself as a bank-breaker, equalizer, tax-reformer, climate un-changer, equalizer, peace-bringer... the list of extraordinary promises goes on. You have proclaimed him a political messiah, a role he embraces more enthusiastically each day. This isn't a campaign supported by thinkers. It's a faith supported by ideological adherents.
I would respect Sanders' message if it weren't a laundry list of grievances that could never, ever, ever be addressed by a single President, even under the best of circumstance (which we certainly do not have). You have been sold snake oil.
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I'd take issue with your comparison to the moon landing. Progress to the moon landing was nothing if not incremental. First, you had the Mercury rockets, to practice getting into space. Then you had Gemini, and practiced orbital maneuvers and docking. Then you had Apollos 7 through 10, "dress rehearsals" for ever greater portions of the landing. Finally, Apollo 11 actually landed. If we had listened to the Sanders supporters then, Neil Armstrong would be a couple of vaporized carbon atoms scattered around space.
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Well Mr. Sanders in Vermont on an endless loop is nothing if not incremental.
Leadership is more than motivational speeches.
Leadership is more than motivational speeches.
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so what happens at the convention if a zombie Ted Cruz delegate , who is bound to Trump on the first ballot stays in his/her room during that first ballot and doesn't physically vote ? Dirty trick Ted ?
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It's telling and typical that this article is centered on the media, the writer herself, and not on the issues of the election or the candidates. It's a sin, if your careerist in the media , not to cover the horse race, but to let the major issues slip in. Thank God the media in general, like this article in particular, has been able to keep actual foreign policy out. We don't want people to have to think about why elections might matter. Maybe you might eliminate most of this piece except for the writer's biography at the beginning.
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Between speaking fees and the Clinton foundation slush fund, the Clintons, have personally made upwards of $258 million in the last decade. There is no direct link “per se” that they profited illegally, or abused their positions as former heads of State to make that money, but that doesn’t make it any less obvious. For instance, the check their foundation got from the Saudis after arranging $29 billion weapons sale for them. I could never support a pair of couple of heartless grifters who sell weapons for personal, while promoting a charity.
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It's a condition called sociopathy
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Win or lose today, Donald Trump will not be the GOP nominee. Paul Ryan will be and he is the biggest threat to Hillary Clinton. New York Democrats should consider that match-up. Only Bernie Sanders can "in-your-face" defeat Ryan.
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Paul Ryan has already said he will not run.
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Yeah right, unless it's handed to him on a silver platter, and he gets Sundays off to be with his kids.
"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
It took me a moment to realize that the author is referring to the debate I just watched - in its entirety. I can't disprove there were "voters' who heard what the author claims, but is this journalism or mind-reading?
There was nothing thinly veiled in what I heard - or derisive. Saying "We got out clocks knocked" was clear acknowledgment that Clinton squarely beat him in the south. He qualified this, fairly, I think, by saying that the the south represents a more conservative part of the Democratic party. What's thinly veiled about that? Is it untrue? Am I behind the times in not knowing that "conservative" is the new code for black voters?
Here's something else that is not thinly veiled: the author's representation of Mr Sanders as a camouflaged or passive racist. If that's not what this kind of journalistic distortion represents, one can only speculate about the author's motivations. That's just my opinion. I'm not writing an article.
It is hard to find a justification for this kind of insinuation in a paper that strives to have journalistic integrity. The author references none, and this article is just another in the string, occasionally broken, of this paper's slanted coverage of the presidential campaign.
It took me a moment to realize that the author is referring to the debate I just watched - in its entirety. I can't disprove there were "voters' who heard what the author claims, but is this journalism or mind-reading?
There was nothing thinly veiled in what I heard - or derisive. Saying "We got out clocks knocked" was clear acknowledgment that Clinton squarely beat him in the south. He qualified this, fairly, I think, by saying that the the south represents a more conservative part of the Democratic party. What's thinly veiled about that? Is it untrue? Am I behind the times in not knowing that "conservative" is the new code for black voters?
Here's something else that is not thinly veiled: the author's representation of Mr Sanders as a camouflaged or passive racist. If that's not what this kind of journalistic distortion represents, one can only speculate about the author's motivations. That's just my opinion. I'm not writing an article.
It is hard to find a justification for this kind of insinuation in a paper that strives to have journalistic integrity. The author references none, and this article is just another in the string, occasionally broken, of this paper's slanted coverage of the presidential campaign.
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Agreed, this is an awfully biased column. That comment in particular was clearly about pushing black voters to the polls for Clinton. In general, this is part of why I voted for Sanders this morning. Too many in the power structure backing Clinton, NYT included. If he can be a man of integrity and consistency, I can certainly maintain the integrity of my vote.
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Learned at the knee of Wilgoren.
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Here's another thing to watch out for on this primary day in NYC: me. I've decided to start a grassroots effort to improve the democratic process, in my own small way. Posing as a reporter I go up to people as they leave the polling centers and ask them if they'd mind telling me who they voted for.
If they say Cruz, then my crack team of malcontents hits them with a tranquilizer dart, chucks them in a van, and ships them via FedEx to Iran, which I think is the sort of government Cruz voters would be happiest with.
If they say Trump, then of course the crew tranquilizes them and ships them to North Korea, to have a government that suits their political outlook.
If they say Kasich, I merely nod in commiseration and thank them for trying to regain civility. And if it's Clinton or Sanders then of course I let them go unmolested.
Hoping this approach will catch on, as it strikes me as the best way to clean up the democratic process here.
If they say Cruz, then my crack team of malcontents hits them with a tranquilizer dart, chucks them in a van, and ships them via FedEx to Iran, which I think is the sort of government Cruz voters would be happiest with.
If they say Trump, then of course the crew tranquilizes them and ships them to North Korea, to have a government that suits their political outlook.
If they say Kasich, I merely nod in commiseration and thank them for trying to regain civility. And if it's Clinton or Sanders then of course I let them go unmolested.
Hoping this approach will catch on, as it strikes me as the best way to clean up the democratic process here.
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Thanks for the levity, Dan!
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Sure thing, Njglea, but of course, am I really kidding? I think this plan might work quite well to improve elections.
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Mr. Obama was not propelled to victory in New York in 2008 by African-American areas in the city. Clinton won by 10 points.
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I had no problem voting my my district today in Brighton Beach Brooklyn! I am a baby boomer female having witnessed several presidential elections. I voted for the only individual capable of functioning in the constantly fractious government we are currently experiencing today. It is not possible with the system we have found ourselves in the US today to elect someone who has nice and interesting ideas about Democracy and Capitalism, that may sound great to students in US Policy 101. President Barack Obama was attacked by the very same players in the right-wing establishment who are waiting in line to go after the next Democratic president. The only individual capable of functioning in this environment is HRC.
Can't wait!
Can't wait!
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... and I am positive FDR had the same kind of criticism when the oligarchs in the 1920s drove this country into a ditch. You use the term "functioning" twice. You are recoiling in horror about the Retrogradians who are waiting to ambush the next Democratic President, no matter who it is. You think that FDR's programs (SS, WPA, CCC, union rights and more) were pie-in-the-sky fit only for history mavens? Read the 1956 Republican platform, then, for homework. Then come back and see why Bernie's call for a revolution at the grassroots level is so essential for this once-great country (Trump had it right, but for the wrong reason) to recover its center of gravity for "We, the People" -- the first three words of the Constitution.
So there. Now, I feel better.
aures lupi
So there. Now, I feel better.
aures lupi
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Glad you got that off your chest!
I found that sometimes it takes a little life experience to give one perspective on such matters.
By the way, my parents, who are still living, are children of the Depression and my father is a WW ll Veteran. My father was still in the Army when it was announced that FDR died. He reported that he thought he would never be able to go home again and the country would never recover.
Well, it did recover and we try our best and move forward with the information and resources we have!
Good luck to you and hope you have a good and productive day during the NY Primary!
I found that sometimes it takes a little life experience to give one perspective on such matters.
By the way, my parents, who are still living, are children of the Depression and my father is a WW ll Veteran. My father was still in the Army when it was announced that FDR died. He reported that he thought he would never be able to go home again and the country would never recover.
Well, it did recover and we try our best and move forward with the information and resources we have!
Good luck to you and hope you have a good and productive day during the NY Primary!
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I forgot to add, I am a proud union member of 1199 SEIU!
Everyone please vote your conscience today!
Everyone please vote your conscience today!
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"Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton are the heavy favorites to win in their home state"
According to the polls, Hillary has a ~12 point lead on Bernie. One recent poll had the lead down to 6 points. This makes Hillary a favorite, but a "heavy favorite"?
According to the polls, Hillary has a ~12 point lead on Bernie. One recent poll had the lead down to 6 points. This makes Hillary a favorite, but a "heavy favorite"?
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I looked at all the polls for the past weeks, and they all have Bernie win in a general election by a huge margin compared to Hillary. It seems that all Hillary voters want is to have a republican in the white house. In essence, a vote for Hillary today is a vote for Trump!
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... any poll taken today provides an unreliable forecast because people polled today have not been exposed to the massive barrage of anti-Sanders publicity that Republicans will delightedly launch, if Sanders is the Democratic nominee.
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Hillary starts to ad on youtube... ... oh god.... so commercial and such a typical style of corporation... ...
They just cannot jump out of box and see what's the problem... ... the problem is corporation and establishment, and she advertise herself with it... ....
finger crossed, hope Bernie will win the nominee, or Americans, welcome our next president, Donald Trump...
They just cannot jump out of box and see what's the problem... ... the problem is corporation and establishment, and she advertise herself with it... ....
finger crossed, hope Bernie will win the nominee, or Americans, welcome our next president, Donald Trump...
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To NY voters:
If you like the status quo, and the role of Wall Street to control the economic agenda of this country, vote for Hillary. If you prefer to make fundamental changes to the underlying power structures, please vote for Bernie.
The Nation is at cross roads. Your vote counts. Please vote. It is the best gift to our democracy.
If you like the status quo, and the role of Wall Street to control the economic agenda of this country, vote for Hillary. If you prefer to make fundamental changes to the underlying power structures, please vote for Bernie.
The Nation is at cross roads. Your vote counts. Please vote. It is the best gift to our democracy.
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Not only will I vote for Bernie tonight, I will not vote for Hillary in the general election as I did plan to before if she gets the nomination. I can't stand the sense of entitlement coming from her. I will vote my conscience and choose Green party if she's the eventual nominee.
The NYT coverage has been so biased that I'm considering finding new sources for honest news reports.
The NYT coverage has been so biased that I'm considering finding new sources for honest news reports.
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"sense of entitlement" = "confidence" I suspect. Lord knows we caint have that from the ladies .
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No, Kay; the sense of entitlement is just that. I would vote for her in the general only. Consider that your and other Clinton supporters' tendency to label any criticism of her as sexism may turn off some Dems and left-leaning independents whose votes she will need.
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I am so tired of reading comments from BS supporters complaining about how unfair the NYT is to their messiah and that they are going to cancel their subscriptions. To which I say, PLEASE go ahead, find another venue to vent.
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I held my nose and voted for Cruz. Trump in a maniac. Katich is too squishy.
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Wolf Blitzer on CNN is already speculating about Bernie Sanders 'giving up' and 'moving on' from New York. Bernie supporters are not going to be pleased!
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April 19th ballot in Forest Hills, NY. Instructions say "vote for any six."
Sanders’ pledged delegates (5)
1. Blecher
2. Centeno
3. Rogers
4. Ramos-Rios
5. Anzum
Clinton’s pleged delegates
1. Crowley
2. Vallone
3. Castaneda
4. Uddin
5. Koslowitz
6. Cheng
So if Bernie wins, he gets 5 delegates. If Hillary wins she gets 6.
If Bernie's voters choose his 5 and one of Hillary's, and if she gets 0% of the vote, she still gets 1/6 of the delegates. Crooked Hillary.
Sanders’ pledged delegates (5)
1. Blecher
2. Centeno
3. Rogers
4. Ramos-Rios
5. Anzum
Clinton’s pleged delegates
1. Crowley
2. Vallone
3. Castaneda
4. Uddin
5. Koslowitz
6. Cheng
So if Bernie wins, he gets 5 delegates. If Hillary wins she gets 6.
If Bernie's voters choose his 5 and one of Hillary's, and if she gets 0% of the vote, she still gets 1/6 of the delegates. Crooked Hillary.
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Observing this whole circus, I can definitely say that if we get DT vs. HC we're facing the dirtiest general election EVER! Donald is going to the bottom of the pit, according to him he didn't even started on Hillary and Clinton's presidency yet... imagine the embarrassment and stink we 'll all collectively have to endure and inhale as a nation while the rest of the world laughing...well maybe some weeping...
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Sunday, April 17, 2016:
28,300 attend Bernie's rally in Prospect Park. No New York Times coverage.
A few hundred attend Hillary's "rallies" in New York City. No mention of the paucity of support for Hillary in the NYT.
Today's front page article on the primary proclaims Hillary is heavily favored to win.
What's wrong with this picture? It's like we live in a Batman movie! Gotham City Times should be the name of this "newspaper."
28,300 attend Bernie's rally in Prospect Park. No New York Times coverage.
A few hundred attend Hillary's "rallies" in New York City. No mention of the paucity of support for Hillary in the NYT.
Today's front page article on the primary proclaims Hillary is heavily favored to win.
What's wrong with this picture? It's like we live in a Batman movie! Gotham City Times should be the name of this "newspaper."
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That was astonishing, nary a peep about the Prospect Park Rally. For shame, formerly great paper.
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I suspect many of those 28.300 attendees at the Sander's rally weren't registered
Democrats. I have never been to a political rally and I have consistently voted for
real Democrats since 1978. Today, I voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Democrats. I have never been to a political rally and I have consistently voted for
real Democrats since 1978. Today, I voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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@is,
You put allegiance to a political party above country and people. You figure out what is wrong with this. Stop being intellectually lazy.
You put allegiance to a political party above country and people. You figure out what is wrong with this. Stop being intellectually lazy.
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I see that a Trump blow-out of 49% (way above his previous purported impenetrable ceilings of 30%) is now a defeat
I think we should have a fusion ticket, Bernie J Trump and Ted R Clinton (oops Hillary R Cruz, there that's better)
is what I think,
We have transcended the gender binary why not the party binary
Mr Kasich (who?) gets the crown for first runner up, a scholarship to THREE schools of his/her/zis choice (negotiable at a discount at Trump U or successor in interest) and gets to cut ribbons when either of the quadrumvirate (gang of four) is indisposed
Details at eleven
I think we should have a fusion ticket, Bernie J Trump and Ted R Clinton (oops Hillary R Cruz, there that's better)
is what I think,
We have transcended the gender binary why not the party binary
Mr Kasich (who?) gets the crown for first runner up, a scholarship to THREE schools of his/her/zis choice (negotiable at a discount at Trump U or successor in interest) and gets to cut ribbons when either of the quadrumvirate (gang of four) is indisposed
Details at eleven
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This may be the one time in my lifetime (I'm 75) when my vote really counts. Unlike the general election where New York turns true "blue" with little attention from either party, today's primary is almost "make or break" for both Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Donald Trump and may actually decide who the nominee in both parties are. I'll be heading to the polls shortly and on this warm, sunny day I really (sorry NY Times) "Feel the Bern."
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Yes, it's too bad this didn't happen 30 years ago. There was a harmonic convergence of greed and everyone was busy filling up. Including Senator Sanders and his elite BIG supporters. Now is not the time to vote guilt. Now is the time to really move ahead by electing the first FEMALE President because SHE is the MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL POLITICAL CAPITAL. Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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What are you talking about? He does not sound guilty or regretful in the least. On the contrary, he sounds JOYFUL to vote for Bernie. :)
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Agreed @Me. I have no clue what that prior post was about. The original poster sounded truly joyful to vote for Bernie. Feel the Bern!
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The really Good News is that Americans are paying attention to the primary race this election cycle and I think voter turnout will be very high on November 8. We need to keep the momentum going for every election cycle, at every level because OUR votes count - every single one of them - in every election. Let's use them to restore true democracy in America.
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njglea,
I am still waiting for your opinion of HRC's kissingeresque tactics in Honduras...
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-hillary-clinton-militarized-us-poli...
I am still waiting for your opinion of HRC's kissingeresque tactics in Honduras...
http://www.thenation.com/article/how-hillary-clinton-militarized-us-poli...
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What makes this election so New York, I’d say, is that after a punishing campaign, the flaws of all the candidates have been revealed, and it requires a certain maturity to then weigh their ideas and decide among these less-than-perfect people. We do this all the time at every other level of government, but when it comes to electing President, many Americans have a need to make the person they support into the most wonderful person ever, who will be the greatest President yet; that can’t be done this year—not with any amount of ingenuity. We’re electing a human being, for a job. Whaddaya gonna do?
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Latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll puts Hillary Clinton at 58% unfavorable with the general electorate.
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FYI, Trump's is even higher.
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Landline phones, still used by most pollsters and thus making results unreliable, when answered, are answered by old white people, and conservative ones at that. That is what I have read, anyway.
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At last New York!
As a New Mexican reading comments in the NYT to election articles, I have assumed most of the comments are from New Yorkers (I know, I can look at the fine print). I have been under the (frightened) impression that New Yorkers will vote overwhelmingly for Bernie, because those are the first and most hyperbolic comments that get published with the best opportunity to garner the most "likes." Almost according to script, most pro Bernie letters complain about the NYT coverage of Bernie (non-coverage was the earlier complaints--somewhat justified; now, it is less-than-glowing coverage that irks). Sorry, Bernie is getting equal time now, for good and for ill, just like Hillary. (It was laughable to think that NYT articles were praising Hillary; I shriveled at some of them, reminding myself of the utility of full exposure).
Now the campaign is over. By tonight, I will know what most New Yorkers who come out to vote think: Bernie vs. Hillary. The NYT's coverage over the past year will have had very little effect on that outcome.
As a New Mexican reading comments in the NYT to election articles, I have assumed most of the comments are from New Yorkers (I know, I can look at the fine print). I have been under the (frightened) impression that New Yorkers will vote overwhelmingly for Bernie, because those are the first and most hyperbolic comments that get published with the best opportunity to garner the most "likes." Almost according to script, most pro Bernie letters complain about the NYT coverage of Bernie (non-coverage was the earlier complaints--somewhat justified; now, it is less-than-glowing coverage that irks). Sorry, Bernie is getting equal time now, for good and for ill, just like Hillary. (It was laughable to think that NYT articles were praising Hillary; I shriveled at some of them, reminding myself of the utility of full exposure).
Now the campaign is over. By tonight, I will know what most New Yorkers who come out to vote think: Bernie vs. Hillary. The NYT's coverage over the past year will have had very little effect on that outcome.
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New York still believes in old relics like Clinton who have deep ties to big corporations.
New York could have been the state that kept the momentum going for the only candidate that will govern for the people: Bernie Sanders.
New York could have been the state that kept the momentum going for the only candidate that will govern for the people: Bernie Sanders.
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Ask the poor Latino residents in TX who were short-listed by Bernie to receive low level nuclear waste, despite their pleas that Vermont and Maine process their own garbage. Jane sat on the toxic waste panel and her annual $4,900 fee shows up on their current tax return. The $200,000 'severance' from a little college in Burlington where she did a brief gig as Pres and left them millions in debt (maybe $10,000,000) does not.
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so you found something to prove he's not perfect. If it is true.
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I don't know, Ari, but I think nearly 30 years in Congress pretty much makes Bernie a relic, too.
Despite voting in the same place for many years and registering with the Democratic party I was not listed on the voting rolls. I had to fill out an Affidavit ballot. Shame the government can even get some simple things right. It seems that the whole voting apparatus is badly broken. This should be the top priory for a democratic government.
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Why can't Clinton draw 28,000 people to a rally.
Really - it gets to the heart of the matter.
Really - it gets to the heart of the matter.
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What matters is that SHE will get women and the men who love them to the polls on November 8, IanC.
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The Clinton voters have jobs, families, mortgages - and we know and respect the candidate. Mrs. Clinton does not need open air concerts to woo followers. That's the reason, and yes, it exposes the lies of the Sanders campaign, which loses traction each day, showing its complete contempt for truth, process and the DNC.
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Because her supporters such as myself has a job and a family. Rest assured that we will out-vote attendees of large rallies next Tuesday in Pennsylvania.
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"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
Oh, really? Which voters "could hear" it? Did they tell you this? How many of them told you this?
Oh, really? Which voters "could hear" it? Did they tell you this? How many of them told you this?
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Oh, give it a rest! He ran a good campaign, but he lost. It's over
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I heard it, Martha.
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I'm sure of one thing....if Bernie loses in New York, he's still a big winner for doing everything right & saying everything right & being a man of integrity....the rarest thing in US politics. He's already a hero to millions of us including geezers like me.
If the working class is to ever to survive the greed of our Oligarchs, America HAS to change. The Oligarchs will live comfortably under President Hillary Clinton & only do better. "Do better" translates to suck up more billions to add to their billions. They might quiet down some but they'll still be busy sending our jobs to foreign lands while sending their money to secret off shore accounts.
Wall Street & Big Banks, Big Medical, Big Pharma, Big Health Insurance will be fine under President Hillary. We will continue to get the heel of their boots. Our kids will continue to graduate with 10s of thousands in student loan debt. Tuition will continue to rise.
President Obama, who I voted for twice, has done the best he could but if our kids stand a chance the next President HAS to do better. My wife & I waited 8 years for the chance to vote for Hillary again but Bernie's honesty, his truth-telling & his refusal to take money from the bad guys won us over on our primary day.
We'll be OK under President Hillary Clinton, we'll be better under President Bernie Sanders. But the movement Bernie Sanders has started will last far longer than this year's campaign which is why we say Bernie has won even if he loses today
If the working class is to ever to survive the greed of our Oligarchs, America HAS to change. The Oligarchs will live comfortably under President Hillary Clinton & only do better. "Do better" translates to suck up more billions to add to their billions. They might quiet down some but they'll still be busy sending our jobs to foreign lands while sending their money to secret off shore accounts.
Wall Street & Big Banks, Big Medical, Big Pharma, Big Health Insurance will be fine under President Hillary. We will continue to get the heel of their boots. Our kids will continue to graduate with 10s of thousands in student loan debt. Tuition will continue to rise.
President Obama, who I voted for twice, has done the best he could but if our kids stand a chance the next President HAS to do better. My wife & I waited 8 years for the chance to vote for Hillary again but Bernie's honesty, his truth-telling & his refusal to take money from the bad guys won us over on our primary day.
We'll be OK under President Hillary Clinton, we'll be better under President Bernie Sanders. But the movement Bernie Sanders has started will last far longer than this year's campaign which is why we say Bernie has won even if he loses today
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Well said, sir.
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You did know that Bernie was happy to raise money from financial types at the galas for big donors? Happy to take money from DSCC to keep his Senate seat.
And about all that free education..... ask his soul-mate Jane why a college with only 300 students got stuck with $10,000,000 in bonds/debt and she left , taking a severance of $200,000. Education isn't free. Someone pays. Someone has to figure out how. Especially when you pay a president $150,00 a year at the smallest little college ever. And the endowment is @$100,000.
And about all that free education..... ask his soul-mate Jane why a college with only 300 students got stuck with $10,000,000 in bonds/debt and she left , taking a severance of $200,000. Education isn't free. Someone pays. Someone has to figure out how. Especially when you pay a president $150,00 a year at the smallest little college ever. And the endowment is @$100,000.
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The "movement" is a virtual flashmob of naifs who equate contributing 30 bucks to participating in a revolution. You haven't got a clue about how to effect real change. You don't get that free this and free thats costs more than your betes noire can pony up. The "revolution" will be over 10 minutes after the next oath of office. And woe to you if a Republican takes the oath because your purist moral principles would not permit you to vote for Hillary, or to tell Bernie to shove it when his ego demands a third party run. Get over yourselves.
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Besides tens of thousands of Democratic voters becoming mysteriously "unregistered" there are numerous reports of problems in Brooklyn, including voter sites that never opened.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/19/3770674/new-york-primary-vo...
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/04/19/3770674/new-york-primary-vo...
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Thanks for the link, Siobhan, and thanks to those behind the Voter Protection Hotline. I'm glad Mayor DeBlasio is looking into the unexplained drop in registered democrat voters. Many of these problems sound like they are due to voters not understanding the rules and polling locations where there was no help. NOW is the time for people to step up, get involved and volunteer to work at polling places. Time to work to restore democracy in America. EVERY vote counts.
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Hellooooooo, Times reporters and editors!!!! The paper's latest up-to-the minute election blog reporting is headlined "New York Primary Converges With Fish and Passover Prep." Not to take away from anybody's religious observances, but isn't this supposed to be a major newspaper?
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I don't get the change of date for existing voters
I changed mine last month from republican to democrat
And sure enough my name was there for the democratic pool
Personally i think the system should be online
Where a person could vote anywhere in the state and their ballot with the correct delegates would be printed for their district
I changed mine last month from republican to democrat
And sure enough my name was there for the democratic pool
Personally i think the system should be online
Where a person could vote anywhere in the state and their ballot with the correct delegates would be printed for their district
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"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
It took me a moment to realize that the author is referring to the debate I just watched - in its entirety. Although I can't disprove there were "voters' who reacted as the author describes, it stretches my imagination that this was listeners typically heard.
There was nothing thinly veiled in what I heard, or derisive. Saying " We guy out clocks knocked " was clear acknowledgment that Clinton squarely beat him there, and that they failed there. He qualified this by saying also that the the south is a more conservative part of the Democratic party. What's thinly veiled about that? Is it untrue?
Here's something else that is not thinly veiled: the author's representation of Mr Sanders as a sort of camouflaged or passive racist. If that's not what this kind of journalistic distortion represents, one can only speculate about the author's motivations.
Personally, I see no justification for the author's insinuations, the author cites none, and this article is just another in the string, occasionally broken, of this paper's slanted articles about this campaign.
It took me a moment to realize that the author is referring to the debate I just watched - in its entirety. Although I can't disprove there were "voters' who reacted as the author describes, it stretches my imagination that this was listeners typically heard.
There was nothing thinly veiled in what I heard, or derisive. Saying " We guy out clocks knocked " was clear acknowledgment that Clinton squarely beat him there, and that they failed there. He qualified this by saying also that the the south is a more conservative part of the Democratic party. What's thinly veiled about that? Is it untrue?
Here's something else that is not thinly veiled: the author's representation of Mr Sanders as a sort of camouflaged or passive racist. If that's not what this kind of journalistic distortion represents, one can only speculate about the author's motivations.
Personally, I see no justification for the author's insinuations, the author cites none, and this article is just another in the string, occasionally broken, of this paper's slanted articles about this campaign.
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Perhaps you were the only one who wasn't taken aback by Mr. Sanders' tone deaf statement. He made the "got our clocks cleaned in the south" remark in defense of his viability on the road to becoming the Democratic nominee. So, in other words, he seems to be saying, "yeah, we lost the south big time, but we will win the nomination anyway since it's just the black vote that we're missing."
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No, Eric S. was not the only one who wasn't taken aback by Mr. Sanders statement. Perhaps some listeners were tone deaf, not the speaker. I too heard Mr. Sanders say that the South is a more conservative part of the country. I truly do not understand how anyone could construe this statement as racist. When I hear about the conservative South, what comes to mind are not black people but poor, undereducated and underemployed white people.
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Ed,
you speak in the royal "WE"??
there were many who saw nothing wrong with Sanders pointing out the obvious..
you speak in the royal "WE"??
there were many who saw nothing wrong with Sanders pointing out the obvious..
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Hillary Clinton's righteous indignation toward any suggested wall street favoritism is laughable. She claims Obama took money from wall street and showed no favoritism and so by implication she will show no favoritism. That's like Donald Trump saying he's like Abraham Lincoln since Abe was a republican.
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Well, to be fair, Abe Lincoln filed for bankruptcy too...
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FYI Bernie has used Wall Street money in his campaigns. Schmoozed at the galas where big donors ante up and took DSCC money for his campaigns.
Did he forget to mention that?
Did he forget to mention that?
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I honestly do not understand how anyone with an ounce of intelligence or compassion can vote for the murderous, environmentally disastrous Hillary Clinton. I have workers at my house today who fled the Hillary-supported military coup in Honduras that resulted in the murder of Berta Caceres, and plunged that country into chaos. Most of them still have families there, desperate to leave the gruesome conditions that Hillary helped immensely to bring into place. Have so many people forgotten the horrific destabilization that Hillary has caused in so many less fortunate countries of the world, and which remains ongoing? Or do you just not care because you do not have to live there? Hillary is nothing less than an accessory to the murder of many thousands of people. She will do nothing for the environment, as should be obvious by now, and will involve us in never-ending foreign wars and regime change. Imagine what the trillions of dollars spent on these "misadventures" could buy - universal healthcare, maybe, and free public university tuition. Hillary is utterly heartless and will stop at nothing to further her own ambition. She is the American Thatcher.
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No. Female Nixon.
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While I agree with much of your assessment (Sanders supporter here), it MUST be tempered with a dose of reality about the difference between the Republicans and Democrats, at least regarding environmental issues, gay rights, and women's rights. There is absolutely no question that the Republicans are FAR more damaging to the environment, gay rights, and women's rights. Yes, Hillary is the lesser of two evils, but refusing to vote for her and risking a Republican win is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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So we should vote for Sanders who promises to step aside as Daesh continues its rampage across the Middle East? And then the blood of one million Yazidis, tens of thousands of Christians, uncountable numbers of Shia, Allawhites and moderate Sunnis will be on his head. Or won't it be? If not, why not? If you blame American policies for what political movements in other countries do to their populations, you should blame inaction as much as action. Or do you seriously believe that once the US withdraws from its participation in the world's affairs, peace will reign on Earth?
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What do you call a person who asks for $27 by promising there will be huge returns on your money, like getting a free education in public colleges, while in fact, he has no way, not even a plan to deliver?
If this were not a part of a political campaign, Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, created by Senator Warren, probably would have looked into this a long time ago.
But we are in New York. People have seen a lot of things, and they know better.
If this were not a part of a political campaign, Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, created by Senator Warren, probably would have looked into this a long time ago.
But we are in New York. People have seen a lot of things, and they know better.
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What's this "promising" business. I have heard the Republicans actually making promises but not the Democrats, especially Sanders. There what kind of person hears promises when the speaker says "Here is something worth working for, and it will be hard work."?
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Agreed,
To be serious, it has to be big money; just ask Goldman Sachs, Boeing, or Exxon.
To be serious, it has to be big money; just ask Goldman Sachs, Boeing, or Exxon.
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Ask Jane Sanders about his college payment plan.
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Trump leads in the polls in New York? I thought NY was one of the few thinking parts of that country? Do you people have any idea how we in the free, thinking, multilingual, cultural, world view Trump and the kind of people who vote for him? What is wrong over there?
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Trump leads in the polls of Republican/right-wing voters, NOT overall. They exist even in "thinking parts" of the country.
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Trump leads the polls among the republican candidates in the republican primary. Republicans vote in their own primary, which is separate from the democratic primary, where democrats will vote for either Sanders or Clinton. Republicans can't vote in the democratic primary and democrats can't vote in the republican primary.
Yes, its insane for anyone to consider voting for Trump, but believe it or not, he's actually the lesser of two evils, Cruz being the greater evil, and the other republican candidate. Still, both are horrible.
Don't worry though- NY will go to the democratic candidate in the general election in the fall. NY is a solidly, reliably democratic state- usually about 60-75 percent democrat in the general election. Today's election is just each party selecting its candidates.
Yes, its insane for anyone to consider voting for Trump, but believe it or not, he's actually the lesser of two evils, Cruz being the greater evil, and the other republican candidate. Still, both are horrible.
Don't worry though- NY will go to the democratic candidate in the general election in the fall. NY is a solidly, reliably democratic state- usually about 60-75 percent democrat in the general election. Today's election is just each party selecting its candidates.
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What makes you think the GOP in NY is different from the GOP in any other part of the country. Ignorance is not a geographic phenomenon.
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Bernie bros are again out in force. They, like Bernie, are becoming even more frustrated and desperate with the fact that he will not get the nomination. Bernie has become a terribly negative force for the progressive movement as his campaign has turned extremely negative and many of his supporters have become Hillary haters. Unfortunately, Bernie has encouraged this hate, subtly at first and now directly, by his character assassination of Clinton. Fully 30%+ of Bernie supporters say they won't vote for Clinton in the general, and his campaign has reached a tipping point where Bernie is not going to be able to unite the party behind Clinton when she gets the nomination. Of course, Bernie has never been a Democrat and has no loyalty to the Democratic Party. He does not raise money for down-ticket Democrats, except for contributions to three who have endorsed him. Now Bernie is not only failing to help Democrats, but he is attacking Hillary for raising money for other Democrats. Bernie has decided that if he can't get the nomination, he will do everything he can to make sure Hillary doesn't win the general election. Howard Dean said long ago that Bernie isn't the kindly old man he is trying to play and that he has a real mean streak. It's showing now, and it's ugly.
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Howard Dean is a Hillary SuperDelegate.
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Where are these mythical "Bernie Bros" of which you speak? Your comment is the most negative I've seen on the comments here. Also, since when is loyalty to a party a criterion for choosing a presidential candidate? This is something that's suddenly been repeated ad nauseam by Clinton supporters for the past two weeks as if it even matters. I'm voting for the best person for the job. Not by party.
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Sounds like Howard Dean isn't so kind either.
If I recall correctly he's now a corporate healthcare lobbyist. Consider the source.
If I recall correctly he's now a corporate healthcare lobbyist. Consider the source.
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It should be noted that Hakeem Jeffries chooses to support a candidate and pledge his superdelegate vote to that candidate before his constituents have even voted. This troubles me greatly, as it appears he is more interested in his own needs then what the voters in his district actually want. Because otherwise he would have not backed her until after he saw the outcomes from his district. But now its clear that he is actually not interested in democracy, which means I'm not ever interested in voting for him again. I truly hope a challenger steps up to question this man, because its clear he is using the system for himself only.
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As a superdelegate, he is allowed to cast his vote for whomever he pleases. You might want to read up on it.
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I am very clear that this is what the Democrats in the DNC have built a system around - subverting the democratic decisions of the people they supposedly represent in order to ensure they can rally around whatever candidate they choose. That doesn't mean that system should exist or that those who are annointed the sole holders of that super delegate vote should vote differently than their constituents. Do you believe this system is democratic? That no matter who the citizens of the United States pick, the super delegates that are supposed to represent them don't have to listen? Cause guess what - its one person, one vote, not 1000s of people, one vote for democracy to actually be democracy.
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One word: Trump.
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There was a certain amount of hope that Ms. Clinton's long expected victory in New York would also bring a certain amount of realism to the Sanders supporters' view of the election. It's already quite clear from the comments there will be little of that happening soon.
What is clear?
1. The NY Times hates him.
2. Ms. Clinton isn't actually from New York (the whole senator thing is a mirage)
3. Ms. Clinton has to win by 30% (or more) before it validates her candidacy
4. People are still going to be very angry even when the results are clear
Hey I'm a Republican who dislikes all of my party's candidates, can you all knock this off before one of them ends up winning this?
What is clear?
1. The NY Times hates him.
2. Ms. Clinton isn't actually from New York (the whole senator thing is a mirage)
3. Ms. Clinton has to win by 30% (or more) before it validates her candidacy
4. People are still going to be very angry even when the results are clear
Hey I'm a Republican who dislikes all of my party's candidates, can you all knock this off before one of them ends up winning this?
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Hillary receives $5,000 per minute from Goldman Sachs and refuses to release the transcripts of her speeches even though she owns the copyright and could do so easily. Her supporters, including the now insane Paul Krugman quite sadly, excuse her every corruption.
The woman who took scads of money from Wall Street is supposedly going to regulate them? The woman who was on the board of Walmart for 6 years is supposedly going to support workers? The woman who took money from Verizon is for the strike?
The hypocrisy is astounding. I hope Bernie takes his 2 million donors and starts a third party. The 42% of Americans who are independents need a political home and its isn't either party.
The woman who took scads of money from Wall Street is supposedly going to regulate them? The woman who was on the board of Walmart for 6 years is supposedly going to support workers? The woman who took money from Verizon is for the strike?
The hypocrisy is astounding. I hope Bernie takes his 2 million donors and starts a third party. The 42% of Americans who are independents need a political home and its isn't either party.
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Dean, where are Bernie's pre-2014 tax returns? Despite the fact that all the other candidates have released multiple years apiece, Bernie is holding his back; why? Is he hiding something? If not, why not just release them? Alas, his supporters rationalize his every flimsy excuse.
See how easy this was to turn back on you? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
See how easy this was to turn back on you? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....
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From what I can see, it should bother some of Sanders' supporters that they offer the same excuses as Trump's supporters, and the same fake facts as can be seen on Brietbart, rather more than it appears to bother them.
Guys, Bernie ain't a saint. He's a politician, with excellent principles, who's made--like all politicans--some compromises, in order to get anything done.
And Clinton's not a witch. She's a politician, who's made some compromises and some mistakes, like all politicians. She also has a solid record.
They're not even that far apart: mostly, it's an argument about how you get to pretty much the same place. Legit argument, too--but it's just an argument over politics.
So take a darn breath, willya?
Guys, Bernie ain't a saint. He's a politician, with excellent principles, who's made--like all politicans--some compromises, in order to get anything done.
And Clinton's not a witch. She's a politician, who's made some compromises and some mistakes, like all politicians. She also has a solid record.
They're not even that far apart: mostly, it's an argument about how you get to pretty much the same place. Legit argument, too--but it's just an argument over politics.
So take a darn breath, willya?
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And let's not forget to mention that Hillary's closet has been fully cleared out and inspected for over two decades whereas, by stark contrast, the mainstream media have yet to vet Bernie Sanders in any meaningful way. I suspect that Bernie supporters know virtually nil about their candidate compared to the treasure trove of "dirt" they have on Hillary.
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They've both made mistakes, yes.
But only one voted for the war.
Yes, Hilary had apologized. Too late, however, to bring back thousands of dead American troops and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.
But only one voted for the war.
Yes, Hilary had apologized. Too late, however, to bring back thousands of dead American troops and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.
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Bernie barely has any dirt, except for that one article he wrote in college.
They have already tried going after him, duh
They have already tried going after him, duh
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A story idea for the NYT: profile some (or all) of the delegates and superdelegates. Hold them accountable.
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Howard Dean trashing Bernie. James Clyburn trashing Bernie. Elijah Cummings trashing Bernie. Barney Frank trashing Bernie. All Hillary SuperDelgates/supporters.
It gets old......
It gets old......
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Oh, sure, let's hold those superdelegates accountable for not voting the way you want them to. Why not join the BernieBro with too much time on his hands who made it his mission to stalk - oh, excuse me, find - the names, addresses and phone numbers of superdelegates so random people can harass them into voting for Bernie?
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/473398688/sanders-supporter-creates-superd...
Sanders voters and Sanders himself say he's running to restore ethics to campaigns and U.S. elections and provide a better, more positive future for our children. You could have fooled me.
http://www.npr.org/2016/04/09/473398688/sanders-supporter-creates-superd...
Sanders voters and Sanders himself say he's running to restore ethics to campaigns and U.S. elections and provide a better, more positive future for our children. You could have fooled me.
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In other words, if the superdelegates support Bernie, hurray for the system! But if the superdelegates support Hillary, it's a rigged, crooked system that subverts the will of the voters! Only Bernie supporters are complaining about the current system, which has been in place for decades.
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What is the point of showing how much money was raised in each neighborhood in the graphics? Wouldn't it be more instructive to show how many contributions rather than their value. We all know Bernie's contributions are small by a huge number of contributors. Conversely, Hillary's contributions are enormous by a few rich people.
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The most any person may donate to HRC's election committee/campaign is $2700. The excess collected at galas, etc goes into the DNC or DSCC to support other campaigns. This is what HRC has done for her entire fund-raising career. Shared the wealth. Even gave contributions to Sanders campaigns!
LOL! But since he already dipped into DSCC funds, he's used to taking Wall Street and any street money!
LOL! But since he already dipped into DSCC funds, he's used to taking Wall Street and any street money!
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This does not inspire confidence: My polling place where I've voted every year for over 20 years inexplicably didn't have my name on their rolls. I filled out an affidavit and voted, but afterwords an official said to take it up with the NY Board of Elections as "they weren't the brightest people." He suggested I register to vote all over again, which I did. What is going on here? This isn't the rural south.
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Ellen,
Please call the voter protection hotline at (347) 379-4298.
Please call the voter protection hotline at (347) 379-4298.
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Same thing happened to my wife and me. And the person in front of us. And the guy behind us.
We voted without incident two years ago at the same location. My wife has been voting at the same polling place (the school at N. 5th in Williamsburg) for 12 years. It was particularly upsetting for her as this was the first time her vote could have made a real difference in a presidential election.
Who are do they have processing the affidavit votes? When will that happen? Did my vote count today? Who knows?
We voted without incident two years ago at the same location. My wife has been voting at the same polling place (the school at N. 5th in Williamsburg) for 12 years. It was particularly upsetting for her as this was the first time her vote could have made a real difference in a presidential election.
Who are do they have processing the affidavit votes? When will that happen? Did my vote count today? Who knows?
In all the many years I've voted in NYC, my name was not on the roll once. I filled in and filed a provisional ballet. Nothing is "going on here." Once in a while there's a glitch. No need to read it as an omen.
I certainly hope that Hillary wins big today so the deems can move on to fall.
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"fall" as in the effect of gravity on an unsupported object, or "fall" as in autumn??
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The fall of democracy.
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Here is what we have to watch: election fraud caused by long lines and Bill Clinton hanging around polling stations..
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What a farce - voting doesn't start until noon in upstate NY??i
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The New York Times takes jabs at Bernie Sanders, subtly and not so subtly, throughout this article. It is clear where your allegiance lies. We get it. (Thank Paul Krugman and other reporters as well.) Sorry, Long Island City park was not full while Prospect Park and Washington Square Park and The Bronx rallies had record enthusiastic support. Raising questions about the *durability* of his campaign? Well, gee, he has come this far with all your questioning about *durability*!
Can this outlet not see what a free (media) pass you are also giving to Trump (not to mention Hillary, etc.)? What a strange, worried, not objective publication the New York Times has become in covering this election.
Can this outlet not see what a free (media) pass you are also giving to Trump (not to mention Hillary, etc.)? What a strange, worried, not objective publication the New York Times has become in covering this election.
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Has the Times even mentioned Sanders' Prospect Park rally (28,000+ people)? It wasn't in the online edition - although it was a lead story in The Guardian. I am now depending on an English newspaper for coverage of the Sanders campaign in New York.
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I am sitting here, at my perspective from outside of New York State, thinking about how ridiculously time-consuming and destructive of financial resources this process of selecting presidential candidates is. For what seems like an eternity already, in countless televised debates and news reports, we’ve been trying to listen attentively while these candidates state and re-state their cases, and brag about their backgrounds.
We are now in April, and the election is still nearly SEVEN MONTHS AWAY! Other large countries manage to select their leaders in electoral processes that are only one or two months long, and the outcomes are usually no more or less valid or protective of their national interests than the 18+ months it takes in the U.S.
I’m obviously engaging in a pipe dream, but I long for the day when the schedules for the state primaries are compressed into a very small time frame (a week or two having been reserved for national debates before the primaries are held), conventions then take place immediately, another few weeks are reserved for national campaigning, and then the vote occurs. The country, and its elected leaders, could then focus on important business without being distracted by this interminable process. We also might benefit from a better selection of candidates, since how many genuinely worthwhile and qualified individuals are willing to risk at least a couple of years of their lives in a non-stop quest for a particular job?
We are now in April, and the election is still nearly SEVEN MONTHS AWAY! Other large countries manage to select their leaders in electoral processes that are only one or two months long, and the outcomes are usually no more or less valid or protective of their national interests than the 18+ months it takes in the U.S.
I’m obviously engaging in a pipe dream, but I long for the day when the schedules for the state primaries are compressed into a very small time frame (a week or two having been reserved for national debates before the primaries are held), conventions then take place immediately, another few weeks are reserved for national campaigning, and then the vote occurs. The country, and its elected leaders, could then focus on important business without being distracted by this interminable process. We also might benefit from a better selection of candidates, since how many genuinely worthwhile and qualified individuals are willing to risk at least a couple of years of their lives in a non-stop quest for a particular job?
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That is how parliamentary systems work, but the US discarded the parliamentary system in its founding revolution. Parliamentary parties have known party leaders most or all of the time, who are their party's candidates for prime minister, if their party wins a majority or leads a majority coalition. When confidence is lost in an administration, a snap election can readily be held to elect a new government to restore confidence with little lead time.
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I agree, primary voting should take place in the entire country at the same time or within a very narrow time span, let's say one long week-end. If the counting is done individually by each state, it shouldn't take any more time than it does now, and all voters would be able to cast their ballots without being influenced by previous results, or actually being denied the right to vote if one candidate gets nominated before each and every state has held its elections.
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Christ. Can NYT be anymore apparent with their support with Hillary? STOP IT. STOP IT. Already.
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Yeah! No more facts!! Stop disagreeing with anything I say!!!
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Why? We New Yorkers are proud of Hillary and support her! So do the Bernie supporters they jump and shout feel the Bern in support of their candidate.
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If the primary instead were between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, and Warren used the very words, charges, and tactics against Clinton as Sanders has, where would all the pro-Hillary self-defined feminists be? BTW, I'm a woman, and I bristle at other women who have given Hillary a free pass this election season primarily because of her gender.
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Sure, Lowell. Why vote for her simply because she's a woman? Vote for her because SHE IS THE MOST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL CAPITAL. SHE has my vote.
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POLITICAL CAPITAL.
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No free pass for Hillary SHE has earned it.
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im offering a pool on how long it will take hillary to start another war
selling monthly blocks
low pool is th first 4 weeks
high pool is a year--but whos stupid enough to buy that one
selling monthly blocks
low pool is th first 4 weeks
high pool is a year--but whos stupid enough to buy that one
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That's a sucker's bet.
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She'll have ground troops in Syria within weeks of her coronation.
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"Our Woman in New York"? You mean the New York Times actually has female reporters--right here in New York of all places? How exotic.
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The "our woman" referred to in the NYT headline is Maggie Haberman, the journalist writing the article, not Hillary Clinton.
I am astonished that so many commentators assumed it was an example of NYT bias. I find it a little scary.
I am astonished that so many commentators assumed it was an example of NYT bias. I find it a little scary.
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You are totally right! Considering the NYT's objective and even-handed reporting throughout the campaign, can you imagine the impudence of some readers in assuming less than angelic motives? I only have two words for such unbounded cynicism: "Tut...Tut."
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The NYT is definitely showing its bias in failing to properly vet Bernie Sanders who is still someone nobody really knows anything about. Yes, one can certainly find some, uh, interesting things about his background, his less-than-stellar career in congress, and his financial entanglements around the interwebs, but so far, none of the mainstream media have run with the story. If the mainstream media did its job, we would not be dealing with this bruising nominating campaign waged by a Democrat-for-the-sake-of-convenience who really has not demonstrated any interest in supporting other members of the party (other than the handful who have endorsed him, quid pro quo style).
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You do recognize the name Haberman, don't you?
Try Wikipedia.
Try Wikipedia.
Bernie's opinion on Israel have been a nightmare for Bernie's Israel supporters. I really think this will prove to be his Achilles' heel in the New York primary and as a result his entire campaign.
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Nonsense. Bernie is just saying out loud what many have been thinking, including supporters of Israel. Just because you like Israel does not mean that you have to assume the right wing politics that currently reign there.
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"LATEST NBC/WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL: Majority of voters say they can't see themselves supporting Hillary Clinton."
Tuesday, April 19, MSNBC
Tuesday, April 19, MSNBC
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An even greater majority can't see themselves supporting Trump.
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As they always do, and especially in this election cycle, Independents will turn the general election.
FACT: Bernie gets their votes, Hillary does not. With a Hillary nomination, they will sit or vote REP in the general.
Because of Hillary's success in closed and semi-closed primary states with very little Independent show, she is leading in pledged and popular.
DNC and the Superdelegates are making a VERY dangerous gamble in 2016.
And then there is the significant contingent of Bernie supporters who will not give her a pass on the Iraq War Vote, Patriot Act, and the dozen other serious flaws she has shown in judgment. Even though I am not one of them, these people will not vote for her.
Bernie 2016
FACT: Bernie gets their votes, Hillary does not. With a Hillary nomination, they will sit or vote REP in the general.
Because of Hillary's success in closed and semi-closed primary states with very little Independent show, she is leading in pledged and popular.
DNC and the Superdelegates are making a VERY dangerous gamble in 2016.
And then there is the significant contingent of Bernie supporters who will not give her a pass on the Iraq War Vote, Patriot Act, and the dozen other serious flaws she has shown in judgment. Even though I am not one of them, these people will not vote for her.
Bernie 2016
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Link please?
I looked up this poll from MSNBC, and couldn't find your quote anywhere, only that Hillary leads Bernie by two points:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-s-nation...
I looked up this poll from MSNBC, and couldn't find your quote anywhere, only that Hillary leads Bernie by two points:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-s-nation...
Please allow me just one last opportunity to convince the Never Trump people.
I am not asking you to support Trump in the Primary. I am not even asking you to like Trump. I do ask you to support Trump or Cruz, whomever wins the nomination; because the alternative of Hillary Clinton is very bad for this country. The only thing I am asking is that you adopt a philosophy that stops Hillary and the democrats from ruining this country any more than they already have. Let these two guys fight it out; but make up your mind you will support the nominee. Trump would delegate, but he would also take responsibility by saying to anyone who does not deliver for the American people: "YOU'RE FIRED." That is the tough type of Executive we need running this country. Trump is not beholding to the Establishment elite; he will not make appointments to high level positions in the government because someone gave him money.
Whether it is Trump or Cruz, all Republicans should support the candidate who has the greatest number of delegates going into the convention because it reflects the majority of the voters. If Cruz cuts a deal with the Republican Establishment elites to steal the nomination away from a man who got more votes and won more delegates, by definition he is an Insider; but I would still support him and vote for him. Please join me in being a real Republican and agree to support the Republican nominee, regardless of whether it is Trump or Cruz.
I am not asking you to support Trump in the Primary. I am not even asking you to like Trump. I do ask you to support Trump or Cruz, whomever wins the nomination; because the alternative of Hillary Clinton is very bad for this country. The only thing I am asking is that you adopt a philosophy that stops Hillary and the democrats from ruining this country any more than they already have. Let these two guys fight it out; but make up your mind you will support the nominee. Trump would delegate, but he would also take responsibility by saying to anyone who does not deliver for the American people: "YOU'RE FIRED." That is the tough type of Executive we need running this country. Trump is not beholding to the Establishment elite; he will not make appointments to high level positions in the government because someone gave him money.
Whether it is Trump or Cruz, all Republicans should support the candidate who has the greatest number of delegates going into the convention because it reflects the majority of the voters. If Cruz cuts a deal with the Republican Establishment elites to steal the nomination away from a man who got more votes and won more delegates, by definition he is an Insider; but I would still support him and vote for him. Please join me in being a real Republican and agree to support the Republican nominee, regardless of whether it is Trump or Cruz.
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Actually your math is not correct. Trump has the largest number of the popular vote in the primaries so far, but does not have the majority of the popular vote - that is he has a lot less than 50%.
More people voted for Cruz, Kasich and Rubio than have voted for Trump.
Are you OK with minority of voters picking the winning candidate?
More people voted for Cruz, Kasich and Rubio than have voted for Trump.
Are you OK with minority of voters picking the winning candidate?
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I agree Trump would be better than Cruz,mainly because I really do not think Trump believes most of the nasty things he has said about people and I believe he is down deep pro-choice. But what does that say about him,that he will change his opinions on the important issues to get a few votes? He has no character,sorry.
It has to be Hillary or Bernie,folks!
It has to be Hillary or Bernie,folks!
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Let's see. Low unemployment. Check. Best economy among the western democracies. Check. Expanded health care. Check. Bin Laden dead and ISIS losing ground. Check. Consumer Financial Protection Board in place. Check.
Please Democrats. "Ruin" us some more. Only this time, let's get a Democratic House and Senate to complete the "destruction".
Please Democrats. "Ruin" us some more. Only this time, let's get a Democratic House and Senate to complete the "destruction".
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To all the usual Bernie supporters flooding the comments section: We New Yorkers know just what to do with someone offering to sell us the Brooklyn Bridge.
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What guff!
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Yes. You'd vote for her.
Is The Times planning on reporting on what the Board of Elections is now saying is the drop of fully 126,000 registered voters from the rolls in Brooklyn? (I suspect that more will be revealed before the day is out.)
This is actual news; WNYC has been on it all day. More important to your readers, I would suggest, than which celebrities are voting for which candidates ...
This is actual news; WNYC has been on it all day. More important to your readers, I would suggest, than which celebrities are voting for which candidates ...
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I wish Bernie would clear his throat once in a while. that must be an old man thing. His wife needs to remind him to do that. I don't know if I could stand to listen to that voice for four years if he wins. And knock off wagging his finger at the world.
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dont you just love hillary high frequency shrieking
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Again, ageism. Open and brazen.
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"His wife needs to remind him to do that."????? What is this - 1956?
Bernie is a grown-up; I think he can figure out for himself hiw to speak!
Bernie is a grown-up; I think he can figure out for himself hiw to speak!
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I must say it will be fascinating to watch the contortions of the Sandersnistas if Clinton wins tonight.
-She didn't win by a lot so it's a loss.
- Black people voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Women voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Jews voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Older people voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Hispanic people voted for her so it doesn't count.
Says Yoda: The denial, it is strong.
-She didn't win by a lot so it's a loss.
- Black people voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Women voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Jews voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Older people voted for her so it doesn't count.
-Hispanic people voted for her so it doesn't count.
Says Yoda: The denial, it is strong.
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Why wouldn't your "woman in New York" take the time to know when the polls open in the different areas of New York State?
Outside of the downstate area (5 boroughs, LI and counties around Westchester) the polls open at NOON.
Outside of the downstate area (5 boroughs, LI and counties around Westchester) the polls open at NOON.
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After Sanders loses here tonigt, and loses in PA and CA and NJ, will he and his supporters continue their campaign of vilification, slander, and name calling against Sec. Clinton? WIll the sexism and gender disparaging, and putting down of black vote continue?
I hope the racism will abate, and that in the coming week we can discuss real, practical solutions that make a real difference to people.
Remember, If you tarnish and trash HIllary with so much gusto, you are paving the way for DOnald and his friends in 2017.
I hope the racism will abate, and that in the coming week we can discuss real, practical solutions that make a real difference to people.
Remember, If you tarnish and trash HIllary with so much gusto, you are paving the way for DOnald and his friends in 2017.
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Sanders isn't smearing her. Hillary caused these problems herself.
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Hillary deserves to be trashed. She has a dismal record of being on the wrong side of SO many issues. If the Democratic machine nominate HRC I, for one, will do everything I can to convince the Sanders camp to run independently. I honestly believe he can win a 3-way race against HRC and whoever turns out to be the Republican nominee, and usher in a new era of political will in our great nation, which gone astray with establishment politics.
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Actually, he is smearing her. His lawyers' letter to the DNC about joint fundraising is clearly an attempt to smear her right before the NY primary.
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We just built the first of 10 - 16 Billion Dollar Aircraft Carriers, so who'll be the President most likely to get us into More Wars, so the Military-Industrial War Profiteers can justify More Taxes to solve everything ?
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it should be noted carrier task forces are comprised of many ships, not just th a/c carrier
so its many many more billions of that down th drain
so its many many more billions of that down th drain
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Alas, competitive population growth for political control of land often gives rise to genocidal wars to win political control by annihilation. It seems to be human nature, expressed since the formation of tribes.
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Why this strange title: "Our woman in New York". Aren't you all in NY? Is this not the NYT?
This must be about the election. Sorry to be critical, but the article almost tells us more about the person who wrote it. Sadly no insider information - all the information after the introduction (that reminds me of the newsletters from the LA Times that also go on and on about the female journalist who happened to write it) can be found online already.
CNN is also in slow motion as in MSNBC... have to check out the more objective independent news sources all the time. That is not good, is it?
Please more objective, non-snearing speedy updates, pictures and movies of the people in NY, who go out to vote for their candidates, the thousands 28000+ that went to Bernie Sanders rallys, the demonstrators, the electrifying vibe... Something is very special today... Show US!
This must be about the election. Sorry to be critical, but the article almost tells us more about the person who wrote it. Sadly no insider information - all the information after the introduction (that reminds me of the newsletters from the LA Times that also go on and on about the female journalist who happened to write it) can be found online already.
CNN is also in slow motion as in MSNBC... have to check out the more objective independent news sources all the time. That is not good, is it?
Please more objective, non-snearing speedy updates, pictures and movies of the people in NY, who go out to vote for their candidates, the thousands 28000+ that went to Bernie Sanders rallys, the demonstrators, the electrifying vibe... Something is very special today... Show US!
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If the polling was too close to call, I might well choose the more cautious, risk averse choice. But according to acclaimed statistician Nate Silver, Hillary Clinton has a 99% chance of winning the NY Primary. She's clearly going to be the nominee. Therefore the NY Democratic voter now has the luxury of going with his gut and not his head. That settles it. Bernie Sanders hands down for me.
Although I'm frustrated that Bernie's "revolution" seems to be non existent, I want the party to know that progressivism is alive and well. It's time to demand a little more ideological purity from a party that at times has little distinction from Northeast Republicans.
Although I'm frustrated that Bernie's "revolution" seems to be non existent, I want the party to know that progressivism is alive and well. It's time to demand a little more ideological purity from a party that at times has little distinction from Northeast Republicans.
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There is always an inter faith pride when presidents emerge from minority religions. It was a great day for America when the first catholic president, JFK entered the white house. It will also be a great day when the first Jewish born person becomes the US president. It will be a great day when in the future we may have the first Hindu president and one who could be the first woman president of the USA, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard.
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Gabbard is a hero. I'd support her for president.
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History will be made in America on November 8 when women and the men who love them will elect the first FEMALE President in the 240 year HIS story of America. It will only have taken about 100 years after women were "Granted" the right to vote by the white male establishment. The same thing that was wrong with this picture is wrong today. We do not need anymore white men, even Grandpa Sanders, WE need to elect the MOST QUALIFIED PERSON WITH THE MOST NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL CAPITAL. Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Gabbard or Nina Turner. Love them both.
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A crook and a carnival barker. Today New York rewards its best.
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The crook being Donald Trump and the carnival barker being Bernie Sanders.
I couldn't agree more.
I'm with her!!!
I couldn't agree more.
I'm with her!!!
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I hope for a Hillary win today.
I also hope Sanders campaign goes back to issues and describing/insinuating that Hillary is a crooked politician. They have to understand that you don't attack your fellow Democrat with Republican message.
I also hope Sanders campaign goes back to issues and describing/insinuating that Hillary is a crooked politician. They have to understand that you don't attack your fellow Democrat with Republican message.
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Hillary has claimed Sanders is hurting the Sandy Hooks families. If that's not a smear, I don't know what is. She's been carrying on like Bernie shot those people himself. Despicable.
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Ethical standards know no party. Those of us not convinced of Hillary's truthfulness and convinced of her allegiance to corporate values rather than the values of the voting middle class need no "Republican message" to instruct us. It's evident by anyone doing a reasonable amount of research.
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fast: rewind to the facts.
Sanders was asked about not supporting the legislation that a judge overrruled so that they could sue a gun manufacturer. When a reporter asked Mr. S about it, the non-answer was that Clinton should apologize to everyone who died in the Iraq War. One that he voted to fund.
Sanders was asked about not supporting the legislation that a judge overrruled so that they could sue a gun manufacturer. When a reporter asked Mr. S about it, the non-answer was that Clinton should apologize to everyone who died in the Iraq War. One that he voted to fund.
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Though I voted in the Democratic primary, I am also curious to see the Republican results and if there is any blunting of Trump's expected delegate total today and next Tuesday. With wafer thin margins, each delegate not won only intensifies the linchpin status of Indiana in early May.
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Winning the Democratic primary is a relative thing. How much you win by is what counts. Not so on the Republican side, where you really can win big. HRC having a margin of 5 percentage points is an indictment of her programs. Winning by 20 points is validation.
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Sanders lost a lot of votes when he announced that Israel's use of force to defend herself was "disproportionate." We may not have a lot of votes ,but we have just enough to put him out of the picture. What is even worse is that
Joe Biden just embraced the Sanders vitriol against Israel. I have no idea why he wont let the spotlight go.
Joe Biden just embraced the Sanders vitriol against Israel. I have no idea why he wont let the spotlight go.
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Sanders won a lot of votes when he exposed the truth about Israel's disproportionate use of force. It has been going on for far too long, and must end if there is ever to be a chance for peace in the middle east.
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"Out of the picture?" Don't think do. Many of us prefer politicians who put the interests of the US ahead of those of Israel.
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Bernie should do better than expected in the major cities and upstate rural parts. The anti-establishment surge is strong now. However, NY has an antiquated primary system that heavily favors people like Hillary Clinton. I wonder who gave your state, a place of excellent politicians historically, such an unresponsive voting system?
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Democrats vote for democrats.
Political parties are private organizations that get to decide their own rules.
Just because your candidate has lost didn't mean anything is unfair.
Independents and republicans should not get to vote in the DEMOCRATIC party.
Anything else dilutes the actual Democratic party's choice for nominee.
Think of it this way: there is a club you don't belong to but a friend of yours is trying to be their leader and he doesn't belong to the club either -
Should you have a vote? Even if you have never contributed to the club?
I think you would feel differently if the shoe were on the other foot.
Political parties are private organizations that get to decide their own rules.
Just because your candidate has lost didn't mean anything is unfair.
Independents and republicans should not get to vote in the DEMOCRATIC party.
Anything else dilutes the actual Democratic party's choice for nominee.
Think of it this way: there is a club you don't belong to but a friend of yours is trying to be their leader and he doesn't belong to the club either -
Should you have a vote? Even if you have never contributed to the club?
I think you would feel differently if the shoe were on the other foot.
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Where is the democracy if the major parties control everything including our choices?
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The big problem with your analysis is that with any of these elections, primary or otherwise, because independents are not particularly happy with either party, they choose to wait and look more closely at the choices they have in a candidate. For the most part, party members will just blindly choose their candidate of choice and that decision is usually made well ahead of the actual election.
Independents, by far, now make up the largest portion of the electorate, hence, to exclude them, even a primary, is ludicrous and an infringement on democracy.
Independents, by far, now make up the largest portion of the electorate, hence, to exclude them, even a primary, is ludicrous and an infringement on democracy.
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What a precious, pandering headline. How about "Our Reporter In New York?"
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Well the allusion is clearly to Graham Greene's novel, _Our man in Havana_ where a hapless vacuum cleaner salesman becomes British Intelligence's prime source on the Soviets by sending drawings of machine parts. So not altogether complimentary to the reporter or the NYT newsroom. Maybe they did not catch the movie.
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Done deal by the NYT for Clinton at this point. Wrapped up by their surely misleading "our woman" headline.
What I want to know is exactly--or even roughly--how many NYT subscribers have cancelled subscriptions, outraged by NYT's manipulative campaign coverage.
Wouldn't that be interesting to know? Is it possible that a shred of this info is findable anywhere, anyhow? Are other news outlets curious? I think they might be, if they are interested in a great story.
What I want to know is exactly--or even roughly--how many NYT subscribers have cancelled subscriptions, outraged by NYT's manipulative campaign coverage.
Wouldn't that be interesting to know? Is it possible that a shred of this info is findable anywhere, anyhow? Are other news outlets curious? I think they might be, if they are interested in a great story.
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"our woman" is the reporter, Maggie Haberman.
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"Large sections of heavily African-American areas in the city, particularly in Brooklyn, propelled Mr. Obama to victory in 2008." This makes it sound like Obama won the NY primary in 2008 -- he did not. Clinton won with 58%.
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The total votes will be telling. The two men and woman (who claims NY to be home) which one gets the most votes.
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Bernie doesn't live here anymore as evidenced by his many gaffes (tokens, stickball, etc.)
He may be a native son but he's a Vermont socialist.
He may be a native son but he's a Vermont socialist.
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Yep, Hillary is certainly a New Yorker, no doubt about it, she is joined at the hip with Wall Street and the banks.
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When was the last time HRC stayed in New York? Say all you want she is NOT a New Yorker. Perhaps she stays in her $2.75 million home in DC.
She is a Ny'er by way of Illinois and Arkansas.
She is a Ny'er by way of Illinois and Arkansas.
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Regarding the map for "Sanders' Advantage," remember that just because someone raised more money doesn't mean they will get more votes. What matters is if they have more donors because each person only gets one vote. In my northwest side neighborhood in Chicago, Clinton raised for money, but Sanders had more donors and ultimately was shown to have more votes.
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Our Woman in New York refers to the writer, Maggie Haberman, not Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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njglea, that's what the Times would like you to think. Subliminally it's a direct hit FOR HRC.
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Conspiracy everywhere, right Emma?
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A deliberately misleading headline and an obvious pander to the Times favorite candidate. And no, Sanders supporters are not flooding the comments section; perhaps there are just more of them them the Times designated winner.
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Bernie bros constantly harp that he does not have a super pac. He doesn't need one. He may not take "BIG" money directly or through super pacs but he does take BIG gifts from BIG donors, including Ben and Jerry. According to today's Guardian, "The co-founders (Ben and Jerry) were released (from jail) in time to host a Monday night event at George Washington University, where they gave students free ice cream and spoke to them about politics, including their support for Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, who inspired a limited edition Ben & Jerry’s ice cream flavor: Bernie’s Yearning." Bernie also gets Free concerts by BIG names, five-minute television commercials by Spike Lee and on and on. THAT is BIG money folks and it barely scratches the surface of "donations" to him. Senator Sanders is a no-BIG-donor fraud. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/ben-and-jerry-arrested-us...
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By the way, Thanks, Ben and Jerry, for joining protesters for democracy in America. I hope you will as diligently support Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton in the November 8 election. We need your voices and talent once bernie mania dies.
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Free ice cream to folks at Ben & Jerry's events is not a free gift to Bernie. Nor is supporters playing free at his events. That's why they're called 'supporters.'
Big gift is $250,000 to Hillary for a speech to Goldman Sachs.
Big gift is $250,000 to Hillary for a speech to Goldman Sachs.
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Not sure how folks define Bernie Bros. Is it anyone who doesn't want Hillary as president? If so, YOU are the anti-feminists because a lot of Bernie supporters
are women.
are women.
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Honestly you guys! I don't like that Hillary voted for the war either, and I do love Bernie -- BUT how could somebody just not vote in the general election if Hillary wins the primary! What could be worse than Trump or Cruz, and also getting some horrid Supreme Court judges? This election means so much for our country, please use your heads.
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Oh, we'll vote, we'll vote for Bernie who, if he loses the Democratic machine nomination, should run, and win, as an independent.
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If Bernie loses the nomination I'll vote for the best candidate remaining in the race - Jill Stein of the Green Party.
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I am very, very tired of Clinton supporters suggesting that youth and ignorant idealism are behind Sanders' popularity. I'm a well-educated 65-year-old with decades of elections under my belt, and exposure to both Hillary's and Bernie's principles for many years. I was treated with similar condescension when I didn't jump onto the John Edwards train. Why can't Hillary's supporters accept that those of us who don't agree with them are equally well-informed but have simply come to a different conclusion?
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Because Bernie Sanders is a man with no plan.
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Leni? Projecting a little? Clinton voters I've met have been to a voter polite about Sanders supporters. The finger wagging and wildly off the wall accusations have been coming from the more enthusiastic Sanders followers.
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HRC does have one: being elected.
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Sanders supporters' "in-your-face all-the-time everywhere everything" manner is really getting to become repulsive. Face the reality - polls have Clinton at over 90% chance of winning NY primary.
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My vote at PS 75 on UWS also went smoothly and quickly. Bernie's concession in June or July better be unifying.
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Haberman's analysis of the NY debate: "Sanders channels his inner Trump as he cites his general election poll numbers."
I'm so sick of this slanted distortion on Bernie when all he does is state the facts and the urgent crisis facing our world. Woman, he is trying to save you and your family's future - why don't you see that?
As much as I want a woman POTUS, that cannot be solely the reason for choosing the Democratic candidate.
Shame on MH and NYT.
I'm so sick of this slanted distortion on Bernie when all he does is state the facts and the urgent crisis facing our world. Woman, he is trying to save you and your family's future - why don't you see that?
As much as I want a woman POTUS, that cannot be solely the reason for choosing the Democratic candidate.
Shame on MH and NYT.
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"Woman, he is trying to save you and your family's future- why dont you see that?"
Wow- that felt like a time machine back to some holy roller tent in the South when I was a kid. lol.
Wow- that felt like a time machine back to some holy roller tent in the South when I was a kid. lol.
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some (many) of us do not believe the various allegations under HRC are credible, fair or are just manufactured. AND on top of that, we genuinely like her approach to governing better. we don't think Sanders is going to save us.
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Sounds like Haberman's 'inner Trump' talking.
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How great if we could choose, None of the above, as our vote. Then we all could express our true preferences.
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Well I eagerly await the day when you can read an article and view comments that more likely than not will scream BIAS!
So very tired of it.
So very tired of the demonizing and slander of Clinton without even conceding that she has been a successful fighter for women, minorities, children and the poor for years.
So very tired of the double standard - he voted for the crime bill but he did it with good intentions. He did not vote for the auto bail out because it wasn't a "pure" bill, she gets excoriated for saving jobs, he voted against the bill for first responders because it was not "pure", she is an opportunist.
He chose to use the same system he is slamming to achieve his ambitions, but there is something evil about her ambitions.
He yells, waves his hands about and at her and he is passionate. She yells and she is shrill.
She legitimately wins pledged delegates and more votes, but oh he would have been ahead if the southern states had not voted first. And oh by the way somehow she rigged all those primaries in which she won.
He was a late thirtyish guy heading up the People's Socialst Party while she was a young college student working to increase minority enrollment at there college, as a young woman fighting for women, children and the poor, as well as a young researcher putting her life at risk going undercover in the deep south to uncover racial bias in housing and education.
Oh yes I am ready for this to be over regardless of who wins.
So very tired of it.
So very tired of the demonizing and slander of Clinton without even conceding that she has been a successful fighter for women, minorities, children and the poor for years.
So very tired of the double standard - he voted for the crime bill but he did it with good intentions. He did not vote for the auto bail out because it wasn't a "pure" bill, she gets excoriated for saving jobs, he voted against the bill for first responders because it was not "pure", she is an opportunist.
He chose to use the same system he is slamming to achieve his ambitions, but there is something evil about her ambitions.
He yells, waves his hands about and at her and he is passionate. She yells and she is shrill.
She legitimately wins pledged delegates and more votes, but oh he would have been ahead if the southern states had not voted first. And oh by the way somehow she rigged all those primaries in which she won.
He was a late thirtyish guy heading up the People's Socialst Party while she was a young college student working to increase minority enrollment at there college, as a young woman fighting for women, children and the poor, as well as a young researcher putting her life at risk going undercover in the deep south to uncover racial bias in housing and education.
Oh yes I am ready for this to be over regardless of who wins.
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While she was a Young Republican. The Clintons brought on the financial recession of 2008, with Mrs. Clinton we will have more of the same.
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Oh right, NYT Reader. Bush emptying the treasury, giving unconscionable tax breaks to the wealthy and putting two wars on a credit card had nothing to do with the 2008 recession, absolutely nothing.
The Clinton's caused the 2008 recession? Are you kidding me?
The Clinton's caused the 2008 recession? Are you kidding me?
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As usual so much of the demonizing from half truths or outright misinformation is staggering. If you so choose here you go.
Glass Steagall
http://www.forbes.com/sites/objectivist/2012/11/12/why-the-glass-steagal...
"There is zero evidence this change unleashed the financial crisis. If you tally the institutions that ran into severe problems in 2008-09, the list includes Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, AIG, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, none of which would have come under Glass-Steagall’s restrictions. As for the FDIC-insured commercial banks that ran into trouble, the record is also clear: what got them into trouble were not activities restricted by Glass-Steagall. Their problems arose from investments in residential mortgages and residential mortgage-backed securities—investments they had always been free to engage in."
(Joseph) "Stiglitz, in the same Vanity Fairarticle, concedes that Glass-Steagall did nothing to “directly” cause the crisis. (Elizabeth ) Warren, meanwhile, confessed to New York Times reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin that Glass-Steagall would probably not have stopped the financial crisis, but that she was pushing to reinstate it because, in Sorkin’s words, “it is an easy issue for the public to understand and ‘you can build public attention behind.’”
I say shame on Elizabeth Warren.
Glass Steagall
http://www.forbes.com/sites/objectivist/2012/11/12/why-the-glass-steagal...
"There is zero evidence this change unleashed the financial crisis. If you tally the institutions that ran into severe problems in 2008-09, the list includes Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, AIG, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, none of which would have come under Glass-Steagall’s restrictions. As for the FDIC-insured commercial banks that ran into trouble, the record is also clear: what got them into trouble were not activities restricted by Glass-Steagall. Their problems arose from investments in residential mortgages and residential mortgage-backed securities—investments they had always been free to engage in."
(Joseph) "Stiglitz, in the same Vanity Fairarticle, concedes that Glass-Steagall did nothing to “directly” cause the crisis. (Elizabeth ) Warren, meanwhile, confessed to New York Times reporter Andrew Ross Sorkin that Glass-Steagall would probably not have stopped the financial crisis, but that she was pushing to reinstate it because, in Sorkin’s words, “it is an easy issue for the public to understand and ‘you can build public attention behind.’”
I say shame on Elizabeth Warren.
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Talk about bias, NYT is doing everything in its power to promote Hillary and ignore and downplay Sanders. Pretty shameful. They are not alone in this game: the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC, especially Chris Matthews have done their best to promote her and downplay what Sanders has achieved and what his message it.
He started his campaign without a super pac, very little name recognition compared to HRC and was around 3% in the polls in the beginning and has still managed to beat her in several states. He isn't some radical left wing communist that wants to destroy capitalism; his policies would only bring back America to the center from which it spun out of control to the radical right in the last 30 years. A vote for Bernie is a vote for your future!
He started his campaign without a super pac, very little name recognition compared to HRC and was around 3% in the polls in the beginning and has still managed to beat her in several states. He isn't some radical left wing communist that wants to destroy capitalism; his policies would only bring back America to the center from which it spun out of control to the radical right in the last 30 years. A vote for Bernie is a vote for your future!
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The Times bias against Sanders has been so gross that I would cancel my subscription, except that my husband, who voted for Hillary here in MA, said he would just re-subscribe five minutes later. Don't know who's more annoying here, the Times or my husband! On second thought, I do know: it's the Times.
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Chris Matthews and his wife just sunk $50,000 in personal funds into his wife's failing Senate campaign in Maryland. Anything that interferes with the status quo is deeply offensive to Chris Matthews who has parlayed his MSNBC job into a $60 million fortune (according to the Washington Post).
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I cast my vote. It just took me a few minutes to choose the candidate who is actually supporting a broad democratic progressive push including down-ticket progressives over the ideologically pure one-note, solo pop star. BTW, if you want a real revolution, try voting in mid-term elections.
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For Trump, it's been suggested by some observers that he needs a clean sweep of all 95 NY GOP delegates to get back on track to win a first-ballot vote in Cleveland. That means he needs to win all 27 congressional districts in the state (and he may need to win a majority in all 27; I'm not so clear on this one though). That's going to be tough to do. Ironically, given that he has spent his whole life as a resident of NYC, it's some of the districts in NYC (esp. outside Manhattan) that could prove to be his undoing even in victory state-wide.
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Where were Bernie supporters in the 2014 Congressional elections, and more importantly, during the parties' nominating processes to select the candidates for those elections? That's where democracy really happens and where the direction and policies of the country are really determined.
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In 2014 where was Hillary? Giving $20 million speeches on Wall Street.
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Where was Obama and why did he not use the bully pulpit more? His one flaw is that he thinks everyone else is as reasonable as he is, it took him 6 years to figure out that the Repubs are irrational people.
One could say that Bernie has finally had enough of the politics as usual and finally decided to run. He had won my respect long before that when I could see him interviewed on the news channels.
I think he only came to the conclusion that he needed to run, over the past couple of years,whereas HRC has been planning to run since at least 1992.
One could say that Bernie has finally had enough of the politics as usual and finally decided to run. He had won my respect long before that when I could see him interviewed on the news channels.
I think he only came to the conclusion that he needed to run, over the past couple of years,whereas HRC has been planning to run since at least 1992.
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Granted, being a Senator is not much of a job for anyone, but Bernie's right up there at the top with those who have made a lifetime career of the Senate with almost zero accomplishments to show for it. The rest of us would have been fired after six months on any real job with his record of loitering and malingering.
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You might have mentioned that the primary reason Maggie Haberman got that byline at age 7 and got to interview Mayor Koch at a young age was that her father was a top reporter at The Times, Clyde Haberman.
To suggest that these resulted from precociousness on her part rather than whom her father was would be like saying Donald Trump was wealthy as a child indicating that he was already a financial wizard rather than that it merely reflected the accomplishments of his father and not him.
To suggest that these resulted from precociousness on her part rather than whom her father was would be like saying Donald Trump was wealthy as a child indicating that he was already a financial wizard rather than that it merely reflected the accomplishments of his father and not him.
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I guess if the 7 yo Donald Trump was writing for economic journals, people would be all over it.
As it is, we still have people who denigrate Clinton's experience as SoS and as a 2 time US Senator, choosing to believe no woman could do that on their own steam, but it was all just a fluke of name recognition.
As it is, we still have people who denigrate Clinton's experience as SoS and as a 2 time US Senator, choosing to believe no woman could do that on their own steam, but it was all just a fluke of name recognition.
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The intro does not suggest that- you have.
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What to watch for...
People being turned away at the polling stations for being Independent instead of Democrat.
Bill Clinton showing up and shutting down voting for an hour to two.
Running out of ballots.
You know, the usual dirty tricks.
Have they called it for Hillary, yet?
People being turned away at the polling stations for being Independent instead of Democrat.
Bill Clinton showing up and shutting down voting for an hour to two.
Running out of ballots.
You know, the usual dirty tricks.
Have they called it for Hillary, yet?
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Yes, I'm waiting for Bill Clinton to show up at a polling place to shake hands again. I can't believe he hasn't already!
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How about you show up and vote on mid-term elections instead of whining?
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Slick Willy is now part of a class action lawsuit in Massachusetts for voter obstruction. He should have been arrested.
Shocking, Richard M. Nixon would be so proud.
Shocking, Richard M. Nixon would be so proud.
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Let's be clear. What we call the Two Party system morphed completely into the One Party system we now have over the last 40 years. There is no threat from a Status Quo "Republican" becoming President. There are very few real democrats in congress; you can count them on one hand. The real threat is Hillary who should be running as a Republican. So, Folks (as Obama so colloquially refers to the citizens of this nation), this is the Presidential election and it's time to decide, double down on Neoliberalism or vote for Democracy.
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Which GOP candidiate was it again that is endorsed by Planned Parenthood, and supports women's rights?
Must have missed that one.
Must have missed that one.
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About socio-economical issues that have eventually led to a narrowing middle class and worse ( the very consequences of neo-liberalism everywhere) ... there are no fundamental differences between the democratic establishment and many republicans.
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Well now, thank you for your comment. This is exactly how it works, concentrate on the "GOP" idiocy and miss the real picture. So, here a little quiz for you; which candidate running in the democratic party primary fully supports women's rights to choose with no qualifications?
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My fear in all of this is that Bernie Sanders will not get the Democratic nomination and because of his huge, HUGE ego he goes third party. This of course splits the Democrats voting power and Donald Trump becomes President. I know that 1972 was 44 years ago, but hopefully a lesson has been learned.
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Huge ego. Get real. Mr. Sanders will support the Democratic nominee.
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44 years ago? Try 16 years ago and Ralph Nader.
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Bill and Hillary. Over $100 million in Wall Street speaking fees. "It was what they offered!" But we can't see the transcripts.
No big egos there.
No big egos there.
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I don't get it. The headline says Our Woman In New York. I figured it's another NYT obvious plug for Hillary. Then I started to read the article, and it's supposedly about the author, but spoken in the third person. So it's not about Hillary? But then, the slant of the whole piece is a not-too-subtle dis on Bernie Sanders. So it's not about Maggie Haberman?
No. It's just another shill for Hillary by a newspaper that used to be better than this. Disgraceful reporting.
No. It's just another shill for Hillary by a newspaper that used to be better than this. Disgraceful reporting.
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it's because Ms. Haberman has a long history (since she was a little girl) of political reporting and she is tightly linked to NY and it's political process. so part of the story is about her.
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Desperate times calls for desperate measures, par for the course for the times and the Clinton's. Have they no shame?
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Like Old Bernie, his supporters have difficulties with headlines.
("Quote, unquote.")
("Quote, unquote.")
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The Democratic primary holds important clues... for Republicans. Let's face it: Trump got lucky. Yes, he tapped into some white, middle-aged anger. But mostly, he was the beneficiary of a wide field of Republican candidates that split the votes of more typical Republicans. And as improbable as it once seemed, a similar scenario could play out in the general election if Sanders supporters stay home or stage a write-in vote in the Fall. So let's see how New Yorkers react once the results come in, and how voters in other states react. Hillary minus Bernie equals Donald.
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This is my biggest fear. Bernie have savagely and selfishly damaged our best hope for NOT becoming a fascist country in this generation.
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If Sanders is not the Dem nominee, things will play out pretty much like they always have every election when the young people didnt translate their support into votes for an outsider candidate: They will whine about it, cry about it, and make all sorts of threats and demands for about 48 hours. Then, they will either disappear or fall in line with the Party. And like every other time, this movement will fizzle away like it always has because not enough people cared enough about it for long enough.
BUT, if Trump gets backstabbed at the convention and gets the nomination "taken" from him (for lack of a better word), then it might make things interesting, because Trump is not running because he wants to help anybody or help the GOP in any way. He is running for pure ego. And he might very well run as an independent if for no other reason than to continue his vanity campaign. If that happens, then Bernie should do it also.
But, if this goes like it always has in the past, it will turn out how it always has in the past, and there is not going to be any kind of revolt or "write ins" of any significant numbers that would give the election to Trump over Hillary.
If there wasnt enough votes to keep Bernie in it, then there wont be enough protest and anger if he loses to compromise a Democrat victory in the general.
BUT, if Trump gets backstabbed at the convention and gets the nomination "taken" from him (for lack of a better word), then it might make things interesting, because Trump is not running because he wants to help anybody or help the GOP in any way. He is running for pure ego. And he might very well run as an independent if for no other reason than to continue his vanity campaign. If that happens, then Bernie should do it also.
But, if this goes like it always has in the past, it will turn out how it always has in the past, and there is not going to be any kind of revolt or "write ins" of any significant numbers that would give the election to Trump over Hillary.
If there wasnt enough votes to keep Bernie in it, then there wont be enough protest and anger if he loses to compromise a Democrat victory in the general.
When are the facts about Bernie Sanders political career going to be brought to the light? He is attacking Hillary Clinton just to win. The man is clueless!
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Old Bernie WANTS the Republicans to defeat/humiliate/destroy Hillary. He wants to see her ground into the dust beneath Cruz's high heels.
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Now Bikers for DT have risen up and vowed to be at the republican convention to "defend" DT's hijacking of the party. I imagine the outlaws who "occupied" OUR national wildlife refuge in Oregon are all for DT. We already know the nazi, white supremacy, alienated veterans (who are getting hefty lifetime benefits from OUR taxpayer dollars), and racists are all for DT. These are the kind of people who made up Hitler's "brown shirts" and SS. They create a truly scary picture and I hope people who do not belong in any of these categories will recognize that Donald Trump, along with Ted Cruz and every other republican, is a danger to America. This is a very serious game and should not be taken lightly.
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Not to sound defensive, but I think a fact-check would prove that a majority of veterans get nothing from the taxpayers and never even use the VA health system one time during their lifetimes. You may be thinking of "retired military" who get halfway decent benefits but not enough to retire without having a part- or full- time job to supplement small to modest pensions and healthcare.
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Thanks for your comment, Cowboy Marine, and I apologize if I offended you or any other vets. Yes, my son-in-law served in both Iraq and Afghanistan in combat in the deadliest days of the wars. He retired from the Army about a year after he got back and suffers from post traumatic stress disorder because he had to kill people, so he gets a disability allowance with his retirement. He doesn't sit around and complain about America. He went out and got a good job and is working and paying taxes. I was not referring to people like he and you. I was referring to the angry vets who seem to just want to continue to be victimized and fight anything while OUR taxpayer subsidies allow them the time. They say they are for "freedom" but I agree with Socrates that their ideas are simply "free dumb" ones.
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No offense taken, just trying to educate. Best wishes to your son-in-law...he'll get better and do fine. I do know a few guys who have used VA healthcare to get hearing aids, but unless dirt poor, most vets avoid VA healthcare like the plague if they have any other options. Multiple tours in combat which was the norm in the Iraq fiasco and disaster to avoid a military draft and so that the rest of America could "go shopping" as Bush put it, is really what has caused all the PTSD more than anything IMO. All Americans and the rest of the world will have PTSD if Cruz or Trump are President.
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Your feature about how New York celebrities are voting didn't have a comments section, so I'll comment here. You leave the impression there that the "celebrity" vote is evenly divided (5-5) between Sanders and Clinton, when I'm virtually certain that is not the case. Celebrities by their nature skew older and richer, which is squarely Hillary's demographic. Why put something like this, which clearly can affect outcomes, on the "front page" on primary day? (Yes, by the way, I'm a Hillary supporter.)
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Where is the NYT coverage of the Brooklyn voter purge? Over 125,000 Democrats who thought they were registered are mysteriously no longer registered.
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Really momshuyah? Where did you read/hear that? I'd like to see/hear it. Thanks.
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It's on NPR.
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Link DrB?
I can't find it.
I can't find it.
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First time voter? Chill out, I guarantee you will never get everything you want and you'll be lucky to get anything you want. But if you still think it's beneath you to vote for Hillary or Bernie, remember Arnold Schwarzenneger as governor of California? Or far worse than that, G. Bush as a 2 term president? Trump makes me laugh til I almost cry and then I realize it could actually happen. Can you even consider Cruz as President without getting nauseated? Inconceivable? Never, never rely on the intelligence of the US voter.
Not once has a candidate I wanted for the democratic nominee ever made it that far. But there's still nothing better than seeing a republican get firmly trounced by a democrat, no matter who it is. I'll be happy to settle for that. In fact, I'll be overjoyed.
Not once has a candidate I wanted for the democratic nominee ever made it that far. But there's still nothing better than seeing a republican get firmly trounced by a democrat, no matter who it is. I'll be happy to settle for that. In fact, I'll be overjoyed.
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It' going to be really great to see Bernie Sanders lose by a big margin to Hillary Clinton in New York today. Hope this finally puts a nail in the coffin of the Bernie Bros and those who Feel the Bern.
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Seriously. Are there any group of people more obnoxious, self-righteous and easily offended than Bernie Sanders supporters ?!?!
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Yes - Hillary Clinton supporters. So much condescension, so quick to take offense, and so very little substance.
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Bernie. Substance? Now that is funny. Bernie, the "Sound Bite" candidate, has even less substance than Trump!
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Sorry--I have been abused and nearly assaulted by your people for simply saying "No thanks" to a flyer. I don't behave that way--you and yours do.
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It is interesting, and sad, that certain folks read "Our Woman in New York" as a NYT biased statement supporting Mrs. Clinton versus the author of the article.
It reminds me of folks looking for a communist under every rock....
It reminds me of folks looking for a communist under every rock....
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doktorij, what's more worrisome is that certain folks are oblivious to media marketing tactics which are successfully redefining representative democracy in the United States.
No, it's not just a coincidence.
No, it's not just a coincidence.
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Agreed Bob. An ignorant electorate is a defeated electorate.
I will vote for Bernie today, and (likely) Hillary in November. But New Yorkers like me should be afraid -- we have kept fracking from turning us into Pennsylvania. So far. Only Bernie has promised to oppose fracking completely. If we don't get serious about the environment, it won't matter what else we do as a country or a world.
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Yes, Senator Sanders will "oppose" fracking but he is unable to "stop" it. He does not have enough political capital. Ms. Hillary Rodham Clinton does and SHE has my vote.
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@njglea
It's so sad to see that so many don't realize how easy it is to make proposals, and so difficult it is to execute them. Talk is cheap. May the best woman win. (It looks like she will, thanks in part to NY.)
It's so sad to see that so many don't realize how easy it is to make proposals, and so difficult it is to execute them. Talk is cheap. May the best woman win. (It looks like she will, thanks in part to NY.)
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@niglea - Clinton has political capital with whom? Republicans hate her as much as they hate Obama. They'd just block her like they do Obama. I'll take Sanders WHO WILL AT LEAST TRY to stop fracking. As opposed to Clinton who won't even try. Clinton Democrats' message seems to be let's not even try because it's hard. Their message is "No you can't!" Bernie's message is "Yes we can!"
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The political naïveté about Sanders of so many supposedly intelligent and sceptical NYT liberal commenters would be funny if it were not so destructive and damaging to achieving liberal ideals and goals in the US.
Just why do Sanders supporters think that both houses in Congress are now controlled by the GOP? Put aside the conspiracy theories for once; stop trying to blame everything on the Koch brothers; wake up and smell the roses. Most Americans are naturally and instinctively conservative. Most Americans are not well schooled, not well educated, not well informed and not very intelligent.
Sanders will be ripped to shreds by the GOP machine if he becomes the Dem candidate for POTUS. All Sanders dubious backroom deals while he was Mayor of Burlington that favoured his second wife, Jane, and his wife's grownup kids will be put under the microscope in vicious and very damaging attack ads that we have not yet seen in any shape or form.
It's obvious from the lack of informed and critical comments that Sanders' NYT fans simply have not bothered to carry out due diligence on their proclaimed Messiah. This is inexcusable given how much has been written about him in the Vermont press over the years, but is to be expected from blinkered partisans who refuse to hear anything bad about the Human God they worship.
Just why do Sanders supporters think that both houses in Congress are now controlled by the GOP? Put aside the conspiracy theories for once; stop trying to blame everything on the Koch brothers; wake up and smell the roses. Most Americans are naturally and instinctively conservative. Most Americans are not well schooled, not well educated, not well informed and not very intelligent.
Sanders will be ripped to shreds by the GOP machine if he becomes the Dem candidate for POTUS. All Sanders dubious backroom deals while he was Mayor of Burlington that favoured his second wife, Jane, and his wife's grownup kids will be put under the microscope in vicious and very damaging attack ads that we have not yet seen in any shape or form.
It's obvious from the lack of informed and critical comments that Sanders' NYT fans simply have not bothered to carry out due diligence on their proclaimed Messiah. This is inexcusable given how much has been written about him in the Vermont press over the years, but is to be expected from blinkered partisans who refuse to hear anything bad about the Human God they worship.
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It's obvious you do not like Sanders, that is what is obvious.
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You think Clinton is actually more ethical Sanders? The Republicans will have a field day with her as well. Anything Sanders may have said about her will multiplied by the Republicans. Whatever blunders Clinton has made in her political career will be magnified. She has plenty of baggage going back her husband's presidency and even to her days as first lady of Arkansas.
Goldman Sachs, Walmart, big pharma, their foundation. The Republicans will use all this against her, and I am sure they know more about than I do.
Goldman Sachs, Walmart, big pharma, their foundation. The Republicans will use all this against her, and I am sure they know more about than I do.
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CL: Surely you know Hillary Clinton has been attacked about every conceivable thing under the sun, and NOTHING has come of it. Her blunders will be “magnified“ if she wins? Do you mean they will go after her over Benghazi? Oh wait - that‘s been done already.
Clinton has been through it all, do you actually think she will be fazed by the current crop of bible-thumping ninnies in the GOP?
Clinton has been through it all, do you actually think she will be fazed by the current crop of bible-thumping ninnies in the GOP?
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Not going to get into all the NY Times bias talk, as it is well established. Just notice the photo of Bernie in this article a silhouette and a skyline that does not show the huge crowd of 27,000+. Did the NYTimes fire its photographers, its photographs look like cell phone pics? Vote for who you want to, just do your homework and be sure to question the sources of all your political news and information. Unbiased fact reporting is hard to find, but it does exist. Not from NYTimes, CNN, Washington Post and others.
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I just went through the arduous process of voting overseas. For Bernie. In the general election, if Hillary is the candidate, I won't bother. With all the weight the NYT is throwing behind her candidacy, clearly my one little vote isn't needed. And yes, I am offended enough by their coverage, the attacks on Bernie supporters by them and the Hillary commenters, and the clear bias of the DNC to just stay out of it. After her vote for the Iraq War, I swore I would never vote for her for anything again. And now I'm sticking with it. Thankfully, I live 6000 miles away.
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Most people have females in their lives who would be penalized under any GOP candidate. Must be nice to have a vote to sit out.
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I too feel exactly the same, should she be the nom, and I'm sure the party bosses will see to it that she is, I will vote for any other candidate, whether it be the Green Party or Working Families, it will NOT be HRC.
Feel the Bern.
Feel the Bern.
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Wow ehgnyc - to fully admit to your privilege in being remote and protected enough to avoid suffering the potential ill effects of your voting abstinence... I guess that stance has a certain amount of principle. But principle alone is not virtuous, particularly when misguided and rigid, and in my view does not compensate for the ethical dereliction for throwing away a vote and helping the GOP.
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Putin, Cruz and Trump share the same goals for America, and nominating Sanders to the Dem ticket is their best hope of achieving them.
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False. Reinvent Preibus just said he'd much rather run against Clinton than Sanders. Because Bernie energizes the base and attracts Independents. Hillary only appeals to party loyalists and no one else. Independents outnumber Democrats vastly. It seems like everything Clinton supporters say about that woman can be easily debunked. They claim Republicans would rather run against Bernie while the RNC chair in fact says the COMPLETE OPPOSITE. They say Hillary is more electable than Bernie, but in fact every single poll shows Bernie with higher likeability, higher trust and beats Republicans by much larger margin than Hillary.
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How can you be so naive? The GOP will rip the Socialist apart in the general election. He will be the second coming of Che Guevara before they're done.
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Yes, the Republicans are PRAYING that Old Bernie is the "Democratic" nominee. Ooh, how they will enjoy sliming him.
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Support from:
Big banks
Tammany Hall
Massive Big Money Contributions
A fawning Big Press
Other politicians including POTUS, Chuck Schumer, Andrew Cuomo, de Blasio
The infamous Bill Clinton - right by her side
And she just manages to win in her "home state"
What a candidate - a potential leader of the free world for sure!
Big banks
Tammany Hall
Massive Big Money Contributions
A fawning Big Press
Other politicians including POTUS, Chuck Schumer, Andrew Cuomo, de Blasio
The infamous Bill Clinton - right by her side
And she just manages to win in her "home state"
What a candidate - a potential leader of the free world for sure!
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Carpetbagger career move. She moved to NY in preparation for eventually running for president. Remember those "listening tours"?
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RIGGED—A Mathematical Analysis
D vs R Delegates:
Using current RCP data:
The net Clinton vs Sanders difference (w/o superdelegates) is:
1287 – 1008 = 279
The total number of D regular delegates is 4051.
The delegate difference between Trump and Cruz is:
743 – 545 = 198
The total number of R delegates is 2472.
The relative "worth" of an R delegate vs a D delegate is 4051/2472 = 1.64
Thus, the difference between Trump vs Cruz expressed in adjusted R delegate worth is 198 x 1.64 = 324.72.
The adjusted (true) difference between Clinton and Sanders (279) vs Trump and Cruz (324.72) is -45.72.
In other words, if the rigged D superdelegates are removed and the true relative "worth" of an R delegate vs a D delegate is substituted, Clinton's lead over Sanders shrinks to less than 86% of Trump's lead over Cruz.
These numbers clarify both the weakness of Clinton as a presidential candidate and the corruption of the Clinton machine, which is now, and has been for more than a quarter century, the only D game in town.
All the voter rights in the world will not make us free if a corrupt, closed system rigs the "election" on the front end.
VEGAS
Her slot machine is her server sins
Her poker chips, her superdel'gate roll
Her roulette wheel, Director Comey spins
Her indictment, Bernie's ace in the hole.
Reid's Culinary Union cooked the votes
Because Bernie was ahead.
The fraudulent votes for Hillary
Berned democracy instead.
D vs R Delegates:
Using current RCP data:
The net Clinton vs Sanders difference (w/o superdelegates) is:
1287 – 1008 = 279
The total number of D regular delegates is 4051.
The delegate difference between Trump and Cruz is:
743 – 545 = 198
The total number of R delegates is 2472.
The relative "worth" of an R delegate vs a D delegate is 4051/2472 = 1.64
Thus, the difference between Trump vs Cruz expressed in adjusted R delegate worth is 198 x 1.64 = 324.72.
The adjusted (true) difference between Clinton and Sanders (279) vs Trump and Cruz (324.72) is -45.72.
In other words, if the rigged D superdelegates are removed and the true relative "worth" of an R delegate vs a D delegate is substituted, Clinton's lead over Sanders shrinks to less than 86% of Trump's lead over Cruz.
These numbers clarify both the weakness of Clinton as a presidential candidate and the corruption of the Clinton machine, which is now, and has been for more than a quarter century, the only D game in town.
All the voter rights in the world will not make us free if a corrupt, closed system rigs the "election" on the front end.
VEGAS
Her slot machine is her server sins
Her poker chips, her superdel'gate roll
Her roulette wheel, Director Comey spins
Her indictment, Bernie's ace in the hole.
Reid's Culinary Union cooked the votes
Because Bernie was ahead.
The fraudulent votes for Hillary
Berned democracy instead.
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You are comparing apples and oranges: the Republican and Democratic primary process are completely different. It's like comparing a tennis score to a golf one. Someone who is two sets down has a much better chance of winning the match than someone who is 12 shots down on the 16th hole. Trump's lead is in danger because republican primaries often award delegates completely disproportionately. The flip side is that Trump was able to lead the delegate race without winning much more than 35-40% of votes.
The democratic race awards pledged delegates almost proportionally, which means that a delegate lead is much harder to build and to lose. Mentioning superdelegates as the reason Hillary Clinton is winning is completely misleading. Ms. Clinton has completely dominated Mr Sanders in the polls, and does not need the superdelegates (who will most likely vote for the winner of the pledge delegate race anyway). Sanders fans may be more loud, but they certainly are not more numerous. At this stage it is very unlikely for Sanders to catch to Clinton in the pledged delegates race, and if he doesn't he will have lost fair and square.
The democratic race awards pledged delegates almost proportionally, which means that a delegate lead is much harder to build and to lose. Mentioning superdelegates as the reason Hillary Clinton is winning is completely misleading. Ms. Clinton has completely dominated Mr Sanders in the polls, and does not need the superdelegates (who will most likely vote for the winner of the pledge delegate race anyway). Sanders fans may be more loud, but they certainly are not more numerous. At this stage it is very unlikely for Sanders to catch to Clinton in the pledged delegates race, and if he doesn't he will have lost fair and square.
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Sven,
What is good for the gander is good for the goose. I am merely responding to the specious comparisons made by the Clinton machine. That said, you make a valid point as to proportionality. Nonetheless, the small real difference between Hillary and Bernie reveals both her weakness and her corruption.
Whether Clinton ultimately needs the superdelegates is beside the point. They are there to carry her over the finish line should she need them. Moreover, their mere presence corrupts the process, i.e., the bandwagon effect.
The greatest probability is that Comey, not superdelegates, will determine the outcome. He will recommend indictment. The prima facie case against her is simply too compelling and massive to ignore. To do so would undermine our national security in perpetuity. Even if Obama chooses to obstruct, she will be mortally wounded.
What is good for the gander is good for the goose. I am merely responding to the specious comparisons made by the Clinton machine. That said, you make a valid point as to proportionality. Nonetheless, the small real difference between Hillary and Bernie reveals both her weakness and her corruption.
Whether Clinton ultimately needs the superdelegates is beside the point. They are there to carry her over the finish line should she need them. Moreover, their mere presence corrupts the process, i.e., the bandwagon effect.
The greatest probability is that Comey, not superdelegates, will determine the outcome. He will recommend indictment. The prima facie case against her is simply too compelling and massive to ignore. To do so would undermine our national security in perpetuity. Even if Obama chooses to obstruct, she will be mortally wounded.
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Another point, Sven:
The fact that the delegates were divvied up between only 2 candidates for most of the D race and among up to 17 for the R mitigates—even neutralizes—your proportionality argument.
The fact that the delegates were divvied up between only 2 candidates for most of the D race and among up to 17 for the R mitigates—even neutralizes—your proportionality argument.
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The NYT pro-Wall Street/anti-Bernie notorious CHASE-after-advertising dollars has unintended consequences. Not only do I no longer read Krugman. I now also skip reading "real estate," and "food & travel." It's "trust completely or not at all," NYT. No future dollars from me going to your real estate picks, and food & travel picks.
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Cancelling your NYT subscription would make a statement.
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Yes, Krugman is forever off my reading list. I won't even click on his articles.
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I'm sure he's deeply offended.
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If Trump voters thought about it for a minute--which is probably a big ask--they'd realize that Cruz is running circles around him at the very thing that Trump wants voters to think he's best at, running a business. His campaign seems to be seat of the pants, disorganized, emotion-based and unprepared for the real tasks at hand. Picture Trump in the White House with real economies and real lives involves, Yikes.
Slapping your name on something of unremarkable value and flogging it with free publicity to the undiscerning can work for a while, but it isn't much of a business.
Slapping your name on something of unremarkable value and flogging it with free publicity to the undiscerning can work for a while, but it isn't much of a business.
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The design of the ballot is wacky.
Reminds me of Pat Buchanan and 2000.
Reminds me of Pat Buchanan and 2000.
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If Bernie wins, it is not an upset. It is a win for the American voters to show that we don't need PACS or superPACS to bid on our White House. This will have a long lasting impact on American politics. If our Supreme Court cannot help us, we have to help ourselves to clean up our campaign financing.
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The NYT finally found someone with Rudoren-like takedown skills. Congratulations!
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Hillary Clinton Attacks Sanders and American Progressives With Message on Why Palestinians Don't Deserve Human Rights
Hillary Clinton has made her “unbreakable bond” with Israel’s right-wing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a centerpiece of her presidential campaign—repeatedly echoing his calls for an escalated crackdown on the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.
So it was no surprise when she recently took to the debate stage, and to CNN, to criticize rival Bernie Sanders for his insistence that Israel’s 51-day military assault on Gaza that killed 1,462 civilians during the summer of 2014 was disproportionate, instead blaming these killings solely on Hamas and even on dead innocents.
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/hillary-clinton-attacks-sanders...
Hillary Clinton has made her “unbreakable bond” with Israel’s right-wing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a centerpiece of her presidential campaign—repeatedly echoing his calls for an escalated crackdown on the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.
So it was no surprise when she recently took to the debate stage, and to CNN, to criticize rival Bernie Sanders for his insistence that Israel’s 51-day military assault on Gaza that killed 1,462 civilians during the summer of 2014 was disproportionate, instead blaming these killings solely on Hamas and even on dead innocents.
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/hillary-clinton-attacks-sanders...
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Pretty simple. Declare yourself a democrat and vote for Bernie.
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I am a Bernie delegate at all four levels in CO : precinct, county, Congressional District, and State. Franklin, Jefferson, and Adams wanted and designed a caucus system to be in place in every local voting precinct in the country, all the way up to the State and national convention levels - in line with a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. Why? The caucus system forces people to be politically informed, and then politically involved, thereby strengthening the polity.
If independents did not switch in time, that is their fault, not the Democratic Party's fault.
If you are a New Yorker, you should be angry that your state has a primary and not a caucus. That said, If you did not bother to check, change, or verify your party affiliation prior to OCT '15, you are simply lazy, uninformed, or both. You can do this online in 5 minutes, or if you are really concerned, go to your democratic party office and do it there. You can even get paperwork verifying your affiliation. Inform yourself on local party rules, state rules - this also takes about 10 minutes, online. Having the right to vote also comes with the responsibility that you are smart enough to know the most basic aspects of our election system, your local and state party rules and cycles. If you last voted in the presidential cycle of 2012, you have had nearly 4 years to get your act together.
Let's go NY, PA, CT, RI, DE, ND, SD, NM, NJ, CA and DC
BERNIE 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If independents did not switch in time, that is their fault, not the Democratic Party's fault.
If you are a New Yorker, you should be angry that your state has a primary and not a caucus. That said, If you did not bother to check, change, or verify your party affiliation prior to OCT '15, you are simply lazy, uninformed, or both. You can do this online in 5 minutes, or if you are really concerned, go to your democratic party office and do it there. You can even get paperwork verifying your affiliation. Inform yourself on local party rules, state rules - this also takes about 10 minutes, online. Having the right to vote also comes with the responsibility that you are smart enough to know the most basic aspects of our election system, your local and state party rules and cycles. If you last voted in the presidential cycle of 2012, you have had nearly 4 years to get your act together.
Let's go NY, PA, CT, RI, DE, ND, SD, NM, NJ, CA and DC
BERNIE 2016 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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EHansen: Colorado is looking at getting rid of the caucus after the chaos in a lot of Colorado polling places. Ours was a hot mess- you had to have hours to spare, listening to intense windbag types.
I like the privacy of the primary system and hope it returns to Colorado
I like the privacy of the primary system and hope it returns to Colorado
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Hillary came to the city after the 9-11 attack and got right to work. If you remember she was constantly on the phone calling and getting emergency assistance to the city, She put her heart into getting funding for rebuilding and restoring the city and that included its people. She pushed for medical assistance to the fire, police and EMT who came to help and left with health concerns of their own. She supported the Zadroga Bill and it finally passed this December. Senator Sanders voted nay, because he objected to other parts of the spending bill, but fortunately the majority of the Senate did not forget their obligation to help the brave first responders of New York.
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Hillary was preparing a run for president, then Obama got in her way.
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Joe that WAS her job as senator. Not news reporting when someone actually does what they were elected to do. She is still a conniving opportunist looking out for herself, Chelsea and of course herself.
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And, that, Mr. Barnett, is one of the main reasons why NY loves Hillary Clinton.
Who is the more loyal, he who left for greener pastures (nice pun, isn't it?), or she who came and stayed to help during NY's darkest hour?
Who is the more loyal, he who left for greener pastures (nice pun, isn't it?), or she who came and stayed to help during NY's darkest hour?
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Voting today was a breeze. Was in and out in less than 15 minutes, and that was because there was an elderly couple making sure they got things right.
Proudly voted for Hillary Clinton. I like Bernie, he makes us all feel good, but he lost me when he turned Hillary into his 24/7/365 issue. I get it already, "Wall St., big corps, etc." How many ways can you say it? What I wanted from Bernie was more discussion (beyond the website) on his plans to get his policies (single payer, free college, etc.) through a GOP/Tea Party congress. -- the one repealing Obamacare as we speak. Also, the absence/lack of knowledge?/discussion on foreign policy was another concern. After all, ISIS hasn't gone anywhere.
Thanks NYers for going out to vote!
Proudly voted for Hillary Clinton. I like Bernie, he makes us all feel good, but he lost me when he turned Hillary into his 24/7/365 issue. I get it already, "Wall St., big corps, etc." How many ways can you say it? What I wanted from Bernie was more discussion (beyond the website) on his plans to get his policies (single payer, free college, etc.) through a GOP/Tea Party congress. -- the one repealing Obamacare as we speak. Also, the absence/lack of knowledge?/discussion on foreign policy was another concern. After all, ISIS hasn't gone anywhere.
Thanks NYers for going out to vote!
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Read the NYT article on Hillary and regime change in Libya.
"We came. We saw. He died."
"We came. We saw. He died."
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First positive comment I've seen, well said. He lost me when he started attacking a fellow Democrat (actually, he's independent, oops, sorry). His slogans are great, I believe in all of them, but can he get anything done, no. Americans will not vote for socialist Jewish man, anti-semitism runs rampant in this country, like it or not. The republicans haven't even started it yet.
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Honestly, I am not so concerned about how exactly he's going to get his policies through. I know that the President is not the guy who passes the legislation, the Congress is, and part and parcel of getting things through is making sure good representatives are selected as well.
Sanders would have the bully pulpit, and can advocate for things that we all want. He can also speak loudly about going out during the midterms (where we REALLY suck) and getting the Republican filth out of Congress, which REALLY matters. Clinton will be too busy triangulating with said filth.
And if you honestly believe Clinton will have an iota more chance of getting her policies through? The GOP faithful are already saying they're looking forward to the historical achievement of impeaching a Clinton twice....so good luck with that. ;)
Sanders would have the bully pulpit, and can advocate for things that we all want. He can also speak loudly about going out during the midterms (where we REALLY suck) and getting the Republican filth out of Congress, which REALLY matters. Clinton will be too busy triangulating with said filth.
And if you honestly believe Clinton will have an iota more chance of getting her policies through? The GOP faithful are already saying they're looking forward to the historical achievement of impeaching a Clinton twice....so good luck with that. ;)
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First, I think Hillary Clinton would make as fine a president as this country has ever had. I think Bernie Sanders would make an excellent top executive for the country as well. One request, though: Would you please stop referring to New York as Ms. Clinton's "home state"? While it's true she lives her now, and moved to New York in 2000 to run for (and eventually win) a U.S. Senate seat, Ms. Clinton is from Chicago, IL. That is her hometown and home state. She attended Wellesley and Yale, neither of which, to my knowledge, are located in New York. She then moved to Arkansas for an extended, and important, part of her life, where she was the wife of then-Arkansas governor William Clinton, and served as that state's First Lady.
I was born in Jersey City, NJ; lived the first twelve years of my life in Secaucus till my family moved to California. I subsequently lived in California at three different times in my life. If I were to claim to be a native Californian or that California was my home state, any self-respecting lifelong California orange grower, Silicon Valley resident (before it earned that moniker), or surfer would punch me right in the nose. And I'd deserve it.
I was born in Jersey City, NJ; lived the first twelve years of my life in Secaucus till my family moved to California. I subsequently lived in California at three different times in my life. If I were to claim to be a native Californian or that California was my home state, any self-respecting lifelong California orange grower, Silicon Valley resident (before it earned that moniker), or surfer would punch me right in the nose. And I'd deserve it.
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Hillary Clinton has lived in New York for 16 years (it remained her legal residence when she was doing the nation's work as President Obama's Secretary of State). She lives here, and has made her home here. This is her home state. I'm proud to have her here. Unlike somebody else, who was so proud to have been born in Brooklyn through an accident of birth that he fled for lily-white Vermont when he came of age. Get over it.
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Five term governor of Arkansas.
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It seems that whenever Vermont is mentioned in a news story, letter to the editor, or in general conversation, particularly when discussing Bernie Sanders, it's "white" population is alluded to, directly or indirectly, as the reason Mr. Sanders "fled there." Has anyone ever produced any evidence, a quote, an anecdote, a whispered suggestion, that the reason he moved to Vermont was to be surrounded by white people and have little or no contact with any people of color? Yes, Vermont has a large Caucasian population. Its workforce is therefore probably mostly white. But its prison population most likely mirrors the state's general population, which would be mostly white. Good and awful people come in all colors, nationalities, religious backgrounds, heritages, etc. Maybe Bernie just enjoyed Vermont and decided to stay. It's one of the fifty states. There's no crime or moral shortcoming implicit in wanting to live there.
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We are about to enter an era when the top 0.1% owns more wealth than the bottom 90% combined. That hasn't happened since the Great Depression- http://politicsthatwork.com/graphs/wealth-inequality-great-depression
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Sanders’s spammers - My dream lesson in all of this? That Hillary wins in a landslide and you have to face it that spamming the NYT didn’t work. It’s too easy, stepping into political life and hitting “like” or “recommend” or posting angrily - and thinking that is all it takes to change the whole world. I wonder how many actually looked back at the careers of these two, how many of you know their histories, discussed them with equally informed, made an independent decision? The comments section of the NYT was a place where people posted thoughtful, informed insights, usually. But to me, you’ve all done digital drive-bye. It’s a disturbing imbalance, cacophony to ears who have tried to train for civil discourse as a way of life. So I hope that winning isn’t that easy for you, because it shouldn’t be.
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I won't be voting for Hillary unless she's up against Cruz. Otherwise, let Trump win.
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Rocket Scientist will let Trump win rather than vote for Hillary. He/she has the most ironically amusing name ever!
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You should consider that comments like yours are why I won't bother voting in November if Hillary is the candidate. If your aim was to insult Bernie supporters, you have succeeded, along with the NYT and the DNC. I don't like her or what she stands for. And I don't have to vote for her.
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The Times has been looking into its crystal ball and predicting victory for Hillary Clinton for months now. However, today New Yorkers get to say what they really think on this topic (assuming they are registered Democrats). New Yorkers follow the beat of their own drum, so it will be interesting to see what happens.
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When going to the polls there's only one thing New Yorkers need to keep in mind. And that's who is the most experienced( in all levels of government both domestic and foreign) and therefore the most qualified and prepared to take over from President Obama from day one. That can be said of no other than Hillary Clinton--as President Obama himself once observed.
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Yet the country elected Obama over her.
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That's right! After her beat her.
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For Clinton, New York is the one remaining state where style points count. Everywhere else, it will be enough to win by just a little. Heck, it would probably be enough to lose by just a little. But here, where she served as Senator for 8 years, has ties with local power-brokers which go back even further and benefits big-time from the closed primary format (meaning no independent voters which have given Sanders a big lift elsewhere), it will not be enough to win by a little - and it would be downright disastrous to lose, even by just a little. Sanders has a legitimate shot in 2-3 states next week and is looking good in all 4 states which vote in May. He'll fight on to June 7 no matter what, but a strong showing here could change the outlook in states still to come such as PA, CA and NJ.
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i want Hillary to win ny, and win bigger than expected by the media
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Hillary will have my vote in NJ, and in the general election. If Sanders is the nominee, I will vote for him, but he'll lose miserably across the country. The republicans will swift boat him (socialist, Jew) to smithereens, they haven't even burped a word yet.
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Bernie's a pipe dream in any of the 3 remaining states mentioned.
In spite of the sustained opposition of the Times, the DNC and the rest of the DEmocrat Party machine, Bernie just keeps keeping on keeping on!
He's the "Seabiscuit" of American politics, Hillary the "War Admiral," the champion of the New York fat cats. Remember who won? Against all odds?
Hey New Yorkers, don't let the pundits call this race before it's over--put Bernie over the top! Don't let "War Admiral's" apparent strength fool you--Bernie's a contender. We need a new champion of the people. Hillary's not it.
He's the "Seabiscuit" of American politics, Hillary the "War Admiral," the champion of the New York fat cats. Remember who won? Against all odds?
Hey New Yorkers, don't let the pundits call this race before it's over--put Bernie over the top! Don't let "War Admiral's" apparent strength fool you--Bernie's a contender. We need a new champion of the people. Hillary's not it.
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How anyone over 60 who has memories of Kennedy, Eisenhower and Truman can bring themselves to vote for the likes of Trump and Hillary is simply beyond my comprehension.
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I will go to the polls today as a registered Democrat, and vote for Hillary Clinton, who is the only Democrat in the race. With her experience, knowledge and abilities, we have the best candidate in years. It is disturbing to see the many ways that the engines of power try to push her aside in favor of a male - ain't working guys. I have also noted that this year, my vote has been sought after as never before - there were multiple calls to my landline this week. After I told the Sanders' campaign that I would never vote for him, and to please stop calling, they did - or I think they did stop, some calls were silent when I picked up. Anyway, after today, the campaigning moves on to PA - and then November. I hope the Sanders' team are as gracious in defeat as they should be, and wishing them a party of their own some day, and a better candidate than Sanders. Their passion deserves someone who has achieved something in their lifetime that gives a clue of what type of president that person will be.
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I've had the same experience - for a man who claims to love the environment, Bernie Sanders sure doesn't have any problem with paper mailers. My mailbox has been stuffed with Sanders campaign materials all week and last night I had to leave my landline off the hook when I went to bed. I repeatedly asked the Sanders camp to stop calling me, but the calls kept coming.
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It's a given that Trump will win the Republican Primary, but the Democratic Primary will be close, and I hope Bernie Sanders wins. HRC, also known as the Wicked Witch of DC, needs to be knocked on her butt.
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Sure Bill - a post about violence toward women!!
And NYT -- really? This one make it?
And NYT -- really? This one make it?
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I am glad a woman is running, because we cant get rid of these old ugly slurs fast enough.
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An example of the vitriol from a Bernie Bros.
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Why the Contest Between Hillary and Bernie Is Such a Big Deal for the Future of Our Economy
True democracy with Bernie or neo-liberalism with Hillary?
"Do we make a perpetual accommodation with neo-liberalism or do we take it on? That's the defining choice in this election. It also explains some of the gap between Hillary and Bernie supporters.
"Neo-liberalism refers to the set of theories and practices that swept through our political system (and many others) in the late 1970s. It argues that prosperity for all will occur only if we 1) cut taxes (especially on the higher income brackets); 2) cut government regulations on the private sector; and 3) cut/privatize government social programs. This combination of policies, it is argued, maximizes economic efficiency and increases economic incentives which together continually improve and expand our economy."
Why the Contest Between Hillary and Bernie Is Such a Big Deal for the Future of Our Economy | Alternet
http://www.alternet.org/.../why-contest-between-hillary...
True democracy with Bernie or neo-liberalism with Hillary?
"Do we make a perpetual accommodation with neo-liberalism or do we take it on? That's the defining choice in this election. It also explains some of the gap between Hillary and Bernie supporters.
"Neo-liberalism refers to the set of theories and practices that swept through our political system (and many others) in the late 1970s. It argues that prosperity for all will occur only if we 1) cut taxes (especially on the higher income brackets); 2) cut government regulations on the private sector; and 3) cut/privatize government social programs. This combination of policies, it is argued, maximizes economic efficiency and increases economic incentives which together continually improve and expand our economy."
Why the Contest Between Hillary and Bernie Is Such a Big Deal for the Future of Our Economy | Alternet
http://www.alternet.org/.../why-contest-between-hillary...
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Wow. Clinton does not want to cut taxes on high income taxpayers. The fact that you think she does shows an amazing level of ignorance. Nor does she want to cut regulations or social programs. You wallow in your own ignorance, just like the Republicans!
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If Hillary is voted in, Wall Street wins.
Policies for the rich will prevail.
Policies for the rich will prevail.
Whereas Ms. Clinton operates with a high degree of caution, best at being a dutiful operator (for one, carrying out Mr. Obama's policies as Secretary, and without much distinction), Mr. Bernie Sanders is a true force, President FOR the People, a New Deal Democrat, inspirer of good will for the planet, a visionary -- all the makings of, truly, a leader.
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Give me a bill he presented in the Senate that passed and became law. What force? He sounds great and I like him and his thoughts, but they will never happen here, nor will he be elected president.
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This is the first time I may simply not vote. As a Roman Catholic I can not support Abortion proponents, nor can I vote for the Rich who would not welcome the strangers in our midst, seek war as a solution, and deny men a wage sufficient to support their families. Satan wins either way. So why participate ?
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Constitutionally speaking, you can't vote your faith-based beliefs into law anyway.
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It's sad that abortion can decide an election. As bad as abortion might be, there is much more at stake.
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I never understand the purity vote. Why is defining an election as a pure and theocratic choice rather than the plain old messy choices of a pluralistic society running a democracy preferable? Duties as a citizen are different than one's church requirements unless one sees church and state as the same thing, which was not supposed to be a great idea anyway.
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I support Bernie and have since he began running.At the time if anyone had predicted that the NY Primary would find him still giving Hillary a strong challenge I would asked them to share with me what they were smoking.And the latest NBC/ WSJ poll-I think that's the one -has Bernie only 2 % behind Hillary,so according that one he still has a chance.That said,whichever one wins,It's my opinion that it's time for Bernie to recognize that Hillary isn't the real foe to a liberal agenda,that that foe is in the GOP.It's time Bernie end attacks on her that the GOP will eagerly repeat should she be the Democrat nominee.Because a President Trump or Cruz would be by far the worst that could befall this nation.Which why while I still hope Bernie gets the nomination I'll vote in Nov. for Hillary if he gets it.
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Bernie Sanders for president! He's got the vote of this 72 year old woman!
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I was told to think that only young college students would support Bernie and just for his free college tuition. You must be an outlier till we look at other pictures taken by other media journalists.
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Hey Optimist,
I'm 60 and I'm voting for Sanders. I started life as a Nixon Republican.
I'm 60 and I'm voting for Sanders. I started life as a Nixon Republican.
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I'm 63 and I voted for Bernie.
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vegas line has hrc at 1-25, bernie as 7-1
not looking good for th bern
not looking good for th bern
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"Our Woman in New York: New York Primary Day, at Last"
This is supposed to be objective election coverage? Along with Clinton, the NYT has lost credibility during this election cycle.
This is supposed to be objective election coverage? Along with Clinton, the NYT has lost credibility during this election cycle.
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The title of the article is referring to the woman reporter, not to Hillary.
At least, that's how I read it.
At least, that's how I read it.
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Maggie Haberman is the NYC reporter covering NYC in this article about NYC. She has covered 10 election cycles so I guess she gets to be "Our woman in New York".
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"Our Woman in New York" refers to Maggie Haberman.
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My fellow New Yorkers will endorse a true icon from Kings County, not the other ones disguised as heroes from Citi' of mine
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From time to time, one wonders why the Bernie supporters, rather than give substantive arguments, feel the bern to disparage and attack the opposition in the person of Hilary in terms that would do justice to Donald Trump or the late Senator Joe McCarthy. But a moment's reflection suffices to ask oneself "why should the Bernie cult be different than any other cult?"
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I'm voting for Bernie - but not until after noon - because that's when the polls open in Upstate NY.
I've been very disappointed in the Times coverage of the Democratic primary election. I understand the editorial board printing their choice - I don't agree with it but that's what editorial boards do. The real disappointment is with the news coverage - MILLIONS of Democrats have been voting for Bermie Sanders and front page coverage has been limited to how hard his path is to the no,inactions, how each state he wins doesn't count, how he doesn't have support in the Black community (my African-American friend is voting for Bernie today), etc.
Go Bernie!
I've been very disappointed in the Times coverage of the Democratic primary election. I understand the editorial board printing their choice - I don't agree with it but that's what editorial boards do. The real disappointment is with the news coverage - MILLIONS of Democrats have been voting for Bermie Sanders and front page coverage has been limited to how hard his path is to the no,inactions, how each state he wins doesn't count, how he doesn't have support in the Black community (my African-American friend is voting for Bernie today), etc.
Go Bernie!
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I would like to hear a little more about why the polls dont open until after noon.
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Contrary to what the Times and other news outlets proclaim Hillary returning to her home state, yeah by way of Illinois and Arkansas does she even live in NY anymore? She only became a New Yorker when it suited her personal needs of obtaining a senate seat. Always the opportunist.
Feel the Bern.
Feel the Bern.
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Why not ever post a policy disagreement rather than carping on someone living in 3 states in 21st Century America? Maybe your dyspepsia is just heartburn.
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Supporters of Senator Sanders need to read Robin Alperstein's post in its entirety. Sanders' electability in the general election is of grave concern - the current polls do not reflect where he will stand once the conservative opposition takes aim at him. He has not been fully vetted yet and Secretary Clinton has been gracious and level-headed when it comes to the race she is running against Sanders, especially in her handling his relentless attacks on her character and the Democratic Party's commitment to a progressive agenda.
https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699...
https://medium.com/@robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699...
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Mrs. Clinton has been fully vetted and found to be corrupt. I am voting for change.
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Anthony,
Did you even look at Real Politic's polls for the past three months?
Sanders beats Cruz and Trump. Hillary does worse than Sanders.
Clinton is the worst ersatz progressive the Democrats ever passed along to the voters. She doesn't pass the sniff test on corruptibility, credibility or even capabilities.
Did you even look at Real Politic's polls for the past three months?
Sanders beats Cruz and Trump. Hillary does worse than Sanders.
Clinton is the worst ersatz progressive the Democrats ever passed along to the voters. She doesn't pass the sniff test on corruptibility, credibility or even capabilities.
I don't knowingly vote for people who make false accusations. When asked directly, Bernie himself was unable to cite a single example of Hillary's policy judgment being influenced by money she was paid to address Wall Street conferences.
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This is how skewed this 'reporting' truly is.
Statement from Maggie: 'But the park was not close to full by 8 p.m.'
Statement from AM New York: 'Bernie Sanders supporters packed a Queens park on Monday night'
Meantime Hillary, the NYT's favorite and Maggie's idol, rallied only 400 supporters mid town.
One sided reporting this is.
Statement from Maggie: 'But the park was not close to full by 8 p.m.'
Statement from AM New York: 'Bernie Sanders supporters packed a Queens park on Monday night'
Meantime Hillary, the NYT's favorite and Maggie's idol, rallied only 400 supporters mid town.
One sided reporting this is.
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And you know the AM radio report was better because...?
By the way, a Clinton supporter might equally object to the Times reporter's remark about Sanders drawing a humongous crowd the previous day.
By the way, a Clinton supporter might equally object to the Times reporter's remark about Sanders drawing a humongous crowd the previous day.
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Except it was true.
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I proudly voted for Brooklyn born Bernie Sanders today. Whether he wins the state of NY remains to be seen, but the fact that he has been such a formidable candidate is really the story of this primary season. Queen Hillary was supposed to have already been coronated by this time. The DNC and MSM have certainly been on her side. In the last week alone, the NY Times has published at least six anti Sanders articles, as has the NY Daily News. At least with this voter and millions of others, the misplaced negativity against Bernie hasn't stuck. I would rather vote for the candidate who doesn't have Henry Kissinger as a mentor, who didn't support an illegal coup in Hondurus and advocate regime chance in Syria and Libya, while secretary of state, and who doesn't take huge speaking fees from Wall Street. I would love to see Sanders win for many reasons. But it would certainly give me pleasure to watch how the NY Times would spin this. I would love to see the temper tantrum Paul Krugman would throw in his next column.
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Ha ha ha. I too would love to see the Paul Krugman temper tantrum.
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I have to admit, I really enjoy my bumpersticker from the Senator Clinton campaign that states: "Love trumps hate." I think that is especially apropos for this epoch in our country and I hope everyone votes for whom they think epitomes that sentiment--regardless of political party of affiliation. Good luck to all candidates and voters who are executing their most hallowed right as United States citizens :)
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For Hillary "money trumps everything."
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From the mouth of the person who cheered,"We came, we saw, he died!!" War justified by love.. Isn't there enough of that going around already?
Just voted at the Grand Central School in Forest Hills. Everything was smoothly run. I'm glad to see good turnout already and a lot of young people voting. Not young myself but hoping for a Bernie upset. Many of us are looking for a candidate who has not been funded by corporations. Would like a democracy that is not beholding to big business and the extremely wealthy. Will Bernie be able to do all he hopes? Most Presidents are not able to, but our nation could start moving back in a direction that serves the many, not just already privileged few who are already very comfortably provided for. Bernie gives us hope.
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You can't eat hope.
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operative word: could
The rest of the world is hoping for a Sanders upset.
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"But the park was not close to full by 8 p.m. No matter."
HA! Have you been to Prospect Park. It's basically the size of Central Park. The Beatles playing a free concert couldn't "fill" the park.
HA! Have you been to Prospect Park. It's basically the size of Central Park. The Beatles playing a free concert couldn't "fill" the park.
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She was talking about Hunter's Point South Park
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Go Maggie! Thanks for all you have done in your reporting and all you will do.
I look for your name when reading the articles. Carry on, dear reporter!
I look for your name when reading the articles. Carry on, dear reporter!
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I wonder if the Times will cover the widespread issues with voter registration and mysterious purging of voter data. There is an emergency lawsuit underway and much frustration and confusion from those who have found they cannot exercise the most basic right - to vote.
My boyfriend, from Long Island, has voted Democrat before and has never changed his party affiliation. He will be unable to cast a ballot because his party affiliation has been changed to "no affiliation" without his knowledge or consent. I have since talked to 5 other friends who have had similar problems.
WNYC reported that in Brooklyn, the number of active registered Democrats dropped by 63,558 voters between November 2015 and April 2016. This sounds fishy.
Will the Times inform the public?
My boyfriend, from Long Island, has voted Democrat before and has never changed his party affiliation. He will be unable to cast a ballot because his party affiliation has been changed to "no affiliation" without his knowledge or consent. I have since talked to 5 other friends who have had similar problems.
WNYC reported that in Brooklyn, the number of active registered Democrats dropped by 63,558 voters between November 2015 and April 2016. This sounds fishy.
Will the Times inform the public?
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Your frustration is understandable - I went through something similar in 2008, when I easily voted for Hillary Clinton on the primary, then went back in November to vote for Barack Obama - but was told that I was no longer on the poll where I lived! The election official told me there had been a "purge" where the polls were "cleaned up" - and they thought I had an address in another part of NY state. I did not - so I got a paper ballot instead. Christine Quinn's office investigated for me, and found out that the official was correct - the purge erased me from my home district, due to confusion over 2 addresses. Something like that happens easily - but the voter should be notified and ASKED what the correct address is - a Con Ed bill and the tax rolls easily proves where we live!
Everytime I see Trump in these articles, I do wonder, where does the Republican party go after this cycle. They have no message anymore and no one on the bench.
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I love the already subdued media coverage of the NY primary after weeks of needless, nonstop, dishonest tabloid sleaze style Trump bashing designed to push Ted Cruz into the spotlight.
Looks like Trump will sweep all of NY's delegates and finish the night with over 800 delegates heading into the rest of the Northeastern primaries.
Looks like Trump will sweep all of NY's delegates and finish the night with over 800 delegates heading into the rest of the Northeastern primaries.
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If only today's primary heralded the end of the Times's unflagging attempts to marginalize Bernie Sanders's campaign - or at least, come up with more subtle ways of doing it.
I don't care if Hillary takes NY, or if Hillary takes Philadelphia, because in November I'll be writing in Bernie's name on a ballot. He's the best candidate for the job.
I don't care if Hillary takes NY, or if Hillary takes Philadelphia, because in November I'll be writing in Bernie's name on a ballot. He's the best candidate for the job.
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People like you put us all in danger of a President Trump or Cruz. Vote for Sanders in the primary, if you want, but please, grow up and vote for Clinton if she wins the nomination.
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Laura, I've never been a big believer in doing what's politically expedient. Please vote for whoever you feel is best qualified - I wouldn't think of challenging your maturity on the matter.
I doubt you further your cause by telling him to "grow up."
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Bitter Bernie, the Pied Piper of Free College, Free Healthcare, Peace in Our Time, and a $15 minimum wage guaranteed to bankrupt half of all businesses in middle America, will no doubt select Professor Harold Hill as his running mate to help promote the "Think Method" of solving America's problems.
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Mr. Sanders is what the country needs. The rich will still be rich. Capitalism will still be here.
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Cowboy Marine,
Yet Slick Hillie has also now shilled for her version of Free College. She touts her own horn about her Free Healthcare plan. She now is for $15. min. wage. Only difference is she hasn't met a war she didn't like. She is the largest arms selling merchant as Sec. State ever. She has already proven her chops at failed coups and the willingness to send our blood and treasure to sovereign nations to enforce Corp. Greed upon any that refuse Americants wishes.
Harold Hill?? Really? Slick Hillie is the one that breezes in and rakes up the dough and then leaves. She is the one with the side show and glitz that distracts from what she is doing. Grifting the marks. Which Shillary will show up? The one with the Chicago accent? Maybe the Southern Hilllie ya'll. Maybe the $1%er that hoovers money like a crack addict pawing through the carpet for her lost rock. At least in the fictional play the people got a good song and dance for their buck. Slick Hillie the plutocrat, just waves from her chauffeured town car, behind her tinted windows and Hench men, as she motors back to her mansion in her gated community. Solving Americant problems? No she promises more of the same, pragmatically by incremtalism.
Yet Slick Hillie has also now shilled for her version of Free College. She touts her own horn about her Free Healthcare plan. She now is for $15. min. wage. Only difference is she hasn't met a war she didn't like. She is the largest arms selling merchant as Sec. State ever. She has already proven her chops at failed coups and the willingness to send our blood and treasure to sovereign nations to enforce Corp. Greed upon any that refuse Americants wishes.
Harold Hill?? Really? Slick Hillie is the one that breezes in and rakes up the dough and then leaves. She is the one with the side show and glitz that distracts from what she is doing. Grifting the marks. Which Shillary will show up? The one with the Chicago accent? Maybe the Southern Hilllie ya'll. Maybe the $1%er that hoovers money like a crack addict pawing through the carpet for her lost rock. At least in the fictional play the people got a good song and dance for their buck. Slick Hillie the plutocrat, just waves from her chauffeured town car, behind her tinted windows and Hench men, as she motors back to her mansion in her gated community. Solving Americant problems? No she promises more of the same, pragmatically by incremtalism.
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This not so subtle headline is the epitome of the NY Times' slanted and biased coverage in favor of Hillary Clinton. Last I checked Clinton's lead over Sanders was considerably less than Trump against his opponents. Unlike Trump's opponents, Sanders at least has a chance of pulling off an upset. But, in an effort to continue to make it a forgone conclusion in favor of Ms. Clinton, the Times equates Trump and Clinton as "heavy favorites" despite polling to the contrary. Might as well subscribe to the Post. Headlines are much more amusing and there is no veiled attempt to be accurate.
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Is the NY Times going to give timely updates about the court decision to allow Independents to vote? or is that too much breaking favorable news for the Sanders campaign to report on?
Will the New York Times be a real news breaking newspaper reporting on what REAL NEW YORKERS are concerned about? or should we learn to rely on Facebook to deliver news that matters?
Why is there nothing mentioned about the two issues below of 126k Democratic voters missing and if independents can vote?
http://www.examiner.com/article/election-justice-usa-tells-independent-v...
http://usuncut.com/politics/nyc-mayor-responds-to-brooklyn-voter-purge/
Will the New York Times be a real news breaking newspaper reporting on what REAL NEW YORKERS are concerned about? or should we learn to rely on Facebook to deliver news that matters?
Why is there nothing mentioned about the two issues below of 126k Democratic voters missing and if independents can vote?
http://www.examiner.com/article/election-justice-usa-tells-independent-v...
http://usuncut.com/politics/nyc-mayor-responds-to-brooklyn-voter-purge/
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Hillary is likely going to win New York (or at least, be helped) because it seems that a sizeable percentage of Bernie's supporters did not affiliate themselves with the Democratic party in a timely manner, and the New York primary is a closed primary for all parties.
I don't see what is unfair about this at all. As a registered Democrat, it is not my place to determine who should be on the GOP ballot in the general election, any more than it is their place to determine who should be on mine. Same goes for the Working Families Party, the Independence Party, or any of the other parties holding their primary elections in New York today.
I don't see what is unfair about this at all. As a registered Democrat, it is not my place to determine who should be on the GOP ballot in the general election, any more than it is their place to determine who should be on mine. Same goes for the Working Families Party, the Independence Party, or any of the other parties holding their primary elections in New York today.
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As another commenter pointed out, over 60,000 registered Democrats "disappeared" from the Brooklyn voting rolls between Nov 2015 and April 2016.
Nobody knows why.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/democratic-voter-rolls-drop-more-60000-brookly...
Nobody knows why.
http://www.wnyc.org/story/democratic-voter-rolls-drop-more-60000-brookly...
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I also wonder how many Bernie supporters at the rallies failed to register and will be unable to vote today. If so, it's the same kind of political malfeasance (on the part of the Sanders campaign) that Trump is guilty of on the delegate-hunt issue.
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Can one change their party affiliation between the primary and the general election?
"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
This is irresponsible reporting. You know exactly what he was referring to. These Southern states are deeply conservative and they favored the more conservative candidate (Clinton). Also Sanders did not speak derisively. He simply stated that those primaries were over. Perhaps it is your latent racism that makes you read it a different way?
This is irresponsible reporting. You know exactly what he was referring to. These Southern states are deeply conservative and they favored the more conservative candidate (Clinton). Also Sanders did not speak derisively. He simply stated that those primaries were over. Perhaps it is your latent racism that makes you read it a different way?
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I don't think so. I think what Sanders said was that only his votes counted, because they were in states that would vote democratic in November. This ignores the fact that primaries are to decide on who will be nominated. Every state counts.
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I agree completely. I cringed upon reading that last line of the paragraph. It's not just irresponsible, it's cheap and disingenuous. Pulling out a fact about the target of Bernie's criticisms and implying that it is the *reason* for those criticisms is a "thinly veiled" and outrageously petty spin for a non-opinion piece.
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Or perhaps it's competence in reading. Sanders was in fact somewhat disdainful, both of working people and of Anfrican-Americans.
As are many of his supporters, I am sorry to say. Folks, the fact that sensible people disagree with you doesn't make them stupid or wicked, and I for one am way past tired of you lot sounding just like Ted Cruz.
As are many of his supporters, I am sorry to say. Folks, the fact that sensible people disagree with you doesn't make them stupid or wicked, and I for one am way past tired of you lot sounding just like Ted Cruz.
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"The likelihood of the Democratic turnout reaching the 2008 level is slim." This likelihood of fact should be examined very closely as the DNC have done a whole lot of legislating to make sure that is the case. If this were an open primary with the ability to register on the day of the voting as opposed to what they made it when they closed registration in October of last year without any advertising and are now facing a lawsuit based on the fact that thousands of previously registered democrats are no longer 'affiliated", it is very likely that the outcome of what is coming would not be very well enjoyed by the pundits of corporate media or any in the establishment who support the Clinton machine.
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The DNC does not set voter registration laws. They are determined by your elected officials and probably have been in place for longer than this election cycle. The paranoia of Sanders supporters is breathtaking. If you want an open primary press your state legislators to change the law.
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The DNC IS the elected officials.
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I don't believe what I am reading in these comments sections anymore. Do Sanders reporters wake up every morning and immediately scour every word in the NYT to find anything they can to write such detailed and hate-filled comments on these pages?
Please keep the conversation on the issues. This is getting really juvenile.
Please keep the conversation on the issues. This is getting really juvenile.
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There is a lot of working the refs going on here, but most of the loudest noise is coming from readers who stop at 140 characters per response, of which they often post many.
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HRC "winning" NY by a shaving isn't going to "put it away." This is (one of) her home state(s). When she went up against Rick Lazio (who?), she "won" by 12%. In a campaign in which she was highly favored, had near universal name recognition and was fully supported by the Dem machine, she beat Lazio (WHO?) by 12 whole points. In a blue state (the Dems win the presidential election by an average of 20+%), that's a victory in name only. And she spent a fortune to do it.
A "victory" now for HRC in NY of under about 15% will have one meaning: she won't beat the Repub candidate. She's going full-bore, and has a 206 delegate lead (she'd have more but her, uh, supporters keep not showing up for the certification). Many Sanders voters are in this ONLY due to him. They won't switch to HRC because they are voting on beliefs, not playing a theoretical long game to get some scraps from the 1% someday.
In the general election, Trump will win. Check Lee Atwater. Lots of single-point, fit-on-a-3-by-5-index-card "issues" can be thrown -- and stick -- on HRC. If she does win, her presidency will be nothing but gridlock. It will destroy the Dem party: The young, disenfranchised by the machine that hamstrung Sanders from Day 1, will never return. The middle class will finish evaporating. And it all starts here: a jaded inside-the-Beltway machine, joined to a compliant and willing mainstream press (yes, NYTimes, I mean you), crushed a political revolution that was sorely, sorely needed.
A "victory" now for HRC in NY of under about 15% will have one meaning: she won't beat the Repub candidate. She's going full-bore, and has a 206 delegate lead (she'd have more but her, uh, supporters keep not showing up for the certification). Many Sanders voters are in this ONLY due to him. They won't switch to HRC because they are voting on beliefs, not playing a theoretical long game to get some scraps from the 1% someday.
In the general election, Trump will win. Check Lee Atwater. Lots of single-point, fit-on-a-3-by-5-index-card "issues" can be thrown -- and stick -- on HRC. If she does win, her presidency will be nothing but gridlock. It will destroy the Dem party: The young, disenfranchised by the machine that hamstrung Sanders from Day 1, will never return. The middle class will finish evaporating. And it all starts here: a jaded inside-the-Beltway machine, joined to a compliant and willing mainstream press (yes, NYTimes, I mean you), crushed a political revolution that was sorely, sorely needed.
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Is this a story or an opinion piece? Sanders took a jab at primaries with black voters? Really?
"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
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It's upsetting because there are still a lot of people who believe that if it is the Times, it must be true.
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So, the latest NYT meme is that Sanders speaks "derisively" of black voters? Yesterday Mr. Blow said much the same thing in his column when he accused Sanders of "dismissing" black voters in the south. The once proud NYT is now stooping to fear-mongering worthy of its sister tabloids the News and Post, not so subtly whipping up fears among blacks that the old, white guy is really just another racist out to get them. And then we'll read editorials here complaining about racism. I would call this a double standard, but that would imply at least a single standard, and it's clear the Times has abandoned theirs in pursuit of their coronation of Mrs. Clinton.
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Hillary will win NY as the various recent statistically valid surveys show. Some Sanders supporters don't believe this, and keep referring to the densely attended recent Rock'n'Roll concert @ Prospect Park, also joined by Bernie, as a sign of the masses behind him. Apples vs. Oranges. Attendance to a fun Sunday afternoon event in nice weather should not be confused with scientifically-valid measures of qualified voters on which candidate they'll choose.
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Trump is one curious New Yorker. His love for the city is so great he's now confusing the terrorist attack on 9-11 with a convenience store. Monday in Buffalo he was bragging about being an eyewitness to the events on `7-11'.
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Mr. Bernie Sanders is the man of the "Spring" of the people of tbe USA with his socialist program. For the USA and for the World. Sen. Sanders is the best candidate, according to me. Therefore, he is the only candidate to sound the alarm about the climate changes and the global warming.
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I'm a NYer, born in Brooklyn - a few years before Bernie - CUNY educated, living gratefully & by choice in Vermont, been reading the NYT forever, when it was the gold-standard of journalism. I know bias & spin when I read it, kind of like pornography - I know it when I see it & Our Woman Haberman is spinning beyond my tolerance.
Yes, I'm 100% for Bernie, don't trust HRC or her First Man...but above all
I know democracy only lives in a country of informed voters & a free press: free of subliminal & not so devious betrayal of the minds of the electorate.
Here in Vermont, where Bernie travels to every tiny town & city, we literally know him, speak with him, and not just during Election years. That he should be so disrespected by Your Woman is precisely why The Revolution is coming.
Yes, I'm 100% for Bernie, don't trust HRC or her First Man...but above all
I know democracy only lives in a country of informed voters & a free press: free of subliminal & not so devious betrayal of the minds of the electorate.
Here in Vermont, where Bernie travels to every tiny town & city, we literally know him, speak with him, and not just during Election years. That he should be so disrespected by Your Woman is precisely why The Revolution is coming.
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No offense to you, but "born in NY, moved to VT" is not necessarily a selling point in the Sanders story for much of this country. Imagine trying to sell New Yorkers on a candidate "born in Texas, moved to Alaska"! (or born in Canada, moved to Texas, even)
My guess is that the polls in NY are probably pretty good predictors of the outcome today. But it will be interesting to see the final result. If Sanders gets, say 47% or more of the vote, I'd call that a victory for him.
My guess is that the polls in NY are probably pretty good predictors of the outcome today. But it will be interesting to see the final result. If Sanders gets, say 47% or more of the vote, I'd call that a victory for him.
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The link I clicked on the front page said "Here's what to watch for as New Yorkers head to polls."
Yet not one mention of the fact that there is a lawsuit being heard this morning about the numerous registration irregularities that have been complained of.
No explanation that if you feel your registration is wrongly recorded, you should go to the polls anyway and file a provisional ballot.
This is a huge aspect of the election. But of course, since the status quo favors HRC, the Times, once again, is silent.
Yet not one mention of the fact that there is a lawsuit being heard this morning about the numerous registration irregularities that have been complained of.
No explanation that if you feel your registration is wrongly recorded, you should go to the polls anyway and file a provisional ballot.
This is a huge aspect of the election. But of course, since the status quo favors HRC, the Times, once again, is silent.
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You know those "I voted today" stickers people wear on election day? I wish there were "I was disenfranchised today" stickers.
I showed up at the polls today to find that the board of elections does not think I exist. I filed an affidavit ballot, but I'm guessing it will never get counted. This is the most defeated and insignificant I've ever felt politically.
I showed up at the polls today to find that the board of elections does not think I exist. I filed an affidavit ballot, but I'm guessing it will never get counted. This is the most defeated and insignificant I've ever felt politically.
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Good luck.
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I hope that after their defeat, the Sanders kids can show some maturity and remember that the real election is in November.
Unfortunately, they seem to have a bit of a mommy complex, and like angry children, they HATE Mommy right now because she sometimes has to set limits and doesn't always give them everything they want. Yet she's the one looking out for them, no matter how petulant they are.
Unfortunately, they seem to have a bit of a mommy complex, and like angry children, they HATE Mommy right now because she sometimes has to set limits and doesn't always give them everything they want. Yet she's the one looking out for them, no matter how petulant they are.
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I had to laugh after reading your last sentence, are you kidding? She will be looking out for the 1% and Wall Street, I feel for you Clintonites so naïve as to believe that she is looking out for us poor working class. Really a hoot your comment.
Feel the Bern.
Feel the Bern.
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Another bash at Sanders supporters.
Not one bash of Clinton supporters anywhere in these comments.
Not one bash of Clinton supporters anywhere in these comments.
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You Clinton supporters are the most insufferable people I've encountered ever. I am an older Sanders supporter who does not have "a mommy complex." What I am is an informed voter who has lots of reasons to vote for Sanders and absolutely none to vote for warmonger Hillary. I have posted many of my reasons over and over again, including in an earlier posting today. But as a typical Clinton fanatic you cannot ever say anything positive about your candidate. Instead you can only denigrate us. Talk about petulant children, look in the mirror.
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First, where is any reporting of the suspicious happenings regarding registered voters suddenly showing up with their Party registration switched too late to have it changed? Lifelong Democrats who suddenly find themselves disenfranchised because they are now listed as something else without changing their party preference. Sound like machine politics from the Clinton side of the aisle. Maybe a new Voting Rights Bill should include New York.
Second, the remarks about the south are not racial, Ms Haberman- so stop characterizing it as such. I write this from the South- not one of these states is likely to send one Democratic Elector this December. The point is states that are as Red as the old Soviet Flag should not be choosing the Democratic Nominee. I voted in the South and I agree. Take away the South and Ms Clinton is just a former public official with an upcoming FBI Interview for her suspicious conduct regarding her emails.
Bernie Sanders is not an outsider- Hillary is. She was born in Illinois and maintains a residence in Washington D.C. after a long time in Arkansas.
Bernie is Brooklyn with the accent to match.
The big story is how the Sanders Campaign has closed up a huge gap with the Carpetbagger from Westchester County via Arkansas, Illinois and D.C.
Second, the remarks about the south are not racial, Ms Haberman- so stop characterizing it as such. I write this from the South- not one of these states is likely to send one Democratic Elector this December. The point is states that are as Red as the old Soviet Flag should not be choosing the Democratic Nominee. I voted in the South and I agree. Take away the South and Ms Clinton is just a former public official with an upcoming FBI Interview for her suspicious conduct regarding her emails.
Bernie Sanders is not an outsider- Hillary is. She was born in Illinois and maintains a residence in Washington D.C. after a long time in Arkansas.
Bernie is Brooklyn with the accent to match.
The big story is how the Sanders Campaign has closed up a huge gap with the Carpetbagger from Westchester County via Arkansas, Illinois and D.C.
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"The point is states that are as Red as the old Soviet Flag should not be choosing the Democratic Nominee."
Otherwise known as a Bernie supporter argument why southern Democrats should be disenfranchised for the primaries, i.e. "those people" just aren't as noble or intelligent as us northern folk who vote for Bernie.
Otherwise known as a Bernie supporter argument why southern Democrats should be disenfranchised for the primaries, i.e. "those people" just aren't as noble or intelligent as us northern folk who vote for Bernie.
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David loved your comment, however do remember this is the NY Times, and they speak on behalf of the carpetbagger from Westchester. This publication has become to official word on all things Hillary. I get physically sick when I think about either of them occupying the White House again. Physically ill. I wish they and their multi millions would go away.
I keep hoping that if I tap my shoes together I would wake up from this nightmare.
I keep hoping that if I tap my shoes together I would wake up from this nightmare.
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Bernie has only 6 delegates listed. Hillary has 9. the ballot instructions state 'pick any 7 delegates'. i stuck to the 6 Bernie delegates. Hope i did not 'short vote' and I bet lots of people are going to select one random Hillary delegate because they think they HAVE to select 7 delegates ....
As Hercule Poirot would say, 'this has the odor of the fish' ...
As Hercule Poirot would say, 'this has the odor of the fish' ...
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I was in and out in just a few minutes, despite not remembering my district number or what line to get on. My government issued ID stayed proudly in my wallet at all times. The election staff were courteous and organized. I got to have my say in a surprisingly exciting Democratic primary. This is what happens when the state maintains minimum standards of basic voting infrastructure.
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Well, you were fortunate.
I heard a caller on Brian Lehrer this morning who tried to vote in Fort Greene say that his polling place was supposed to open at 6am, he arrived at 7am and it opened at 8am.
And what about the 63,000 registered Democrats that went missing from the rolls?
According to Ari Berman, the author of Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America and recent piece for The Nation called "27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary" was interviewed on Democracy Now! this morning.
Apparently, New York has the most restrictive laws behind Texas, North Carolina and a few other states.
I heard a caller on Brian Lehrer this morning who tried to vote in Fort Greene say that his polling place was supposed to open at 6am, he arrived at 7am and it opened at 8am.
And what about the 63,000 registered Democrats that went missing from the rolls?
According to Ari Berman, the author of Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America and recent piece for The Nation called "27 Percent of New York’s Registered Voters Won’t Be Able to Vote in the State’s Primary" was interviewed on Democracy Now! this morning.
Apparently, New York has the most restrictive laws behind Texas, North Carolina and a few other states.
You are aware that polls don't open until 12 noon in upstate counties, right?
Those are some disturbing stories. Hopefully the Times will elucidate on them.
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Weird headline - doesn't the Times have lots of women reporters in New York?
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No. Read the italicized first two paragraphs and you'll get the drift staring you in the face.
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I guess I don't see why the reporter's place of residence is necessary to know. The fact that she lives in NYC isn't a factor in her reporting of this story -- she would do a good job with this whether she lives in NYC or not.
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The question that everyone, including the NYT, should be asking is about Bernie Sanders’ tax rate in 2014 of only 14%?
It is way less than what I am paying, making way less money than he does. Is his low tax rate the real reason why he did not share his tax returns? Was this not Mitt Romney’s tax rate? So, he demonizes Hillary and the establishment, but he takes full advantage of what the establishment affords. I got it. And no, he did not compensate his lack of a meaningful federal tax contribution with higher charitable contributions. Four percent in charitable contributions is the average nothing more and nothing less.
I would have expected more from the long-awaited prince of social justice. This is why I support Hillary. She is not half as sanctimonious and self-righteous as Bernie.
It is way less than what I am paying, making way less money than he does. Is his low tax rate the real reason why he did not share his tax returns? Was this not Mitt Romney’s tax rate? So, he demonizes Hillary and the establishment, but he takes full advantage of what the establishment affords. I got it. And no, he did not compensate his lack of a meaningful federal tax contribution with higher charitable contributions. Four percent in charitable contributions is the average nothing more and nothing less.
I would have expected more from the long-awaited prince of social justice. This is why I support Hillary. She is not half as sanctimonious and self-righteous as Bernie.
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No she's just a better panderer and con artist. We've seen it all before she has perfected it to an art form.
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Both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump claim the system is "rigged." Mr. Sanders is talking about Wall Street and Mr. Trump is talking only about how he can use the word as an excuse for his campaign's failings.
Mr. Sanders has it right and Wall St. folks will tell you, privately, he is spot on. Mr. Trump *is* Wall St and he is irrevocably tied to it through his loans, investments and contacts.
How ironic is it that any NY'er would fall for Trump's pitch that he is there to help the everyday person? It's like voting for Bernie Madoff as your compliance officer.
Mr. Sanders has it right and Wall St. folks will tell you, privately, he is spot on. Mr. Trump *is* Wall St and he is irrevocably tied to it through his loans, investments and contacts.
How ironic is it that any NY'er would fall for Trump's pitch that he is there to help the everyday person? It's like voting for Bernie Madoff as your compliance officer.
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In many ways it's all about being burned and Bernie's, correct. But, I have yet to meet a Wall Streeter who agrees with Bernie's simplistic view of tacking on another transactional tax as a cureall. Sanders concept that incomes north of $150,000 are rich is poor. Inheritance taxes, 1031s holding taxes, avoidance taxes, asset taxes kicking in over $10M and you'd maybe start to see some electorate traction. Also, try taxing the church instead of kissing up to the pope. Love the biggest free loader of all asking for the rest of us to tithe when its worldwide assets are in the trillions.
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How ironic that liberal New Yorkers will vote for Clinton with her super pacs, Hollywood fund raisers and yes, Wall Street contributions. Oh my, I forgot to include her Goldman-Sachs paid speeches to the tune of $250,000 per speech. Why r lib New Yorkers backing her in huge numbers? So hypocritical when a vote for Bernie is the moral and ethical vote to wager.
When Bernie says the system is rigged, he's referring to the super delegates belonging to Hillary so they are saying similar things. Also, neither one of them depend on super PACs for campaign monies.
Comparing Trump to Bernie Madoff is absurd. He worked hard and for his money and did not steal it. I don't know how NY'ers could fall for Sanders because they already pay extremely high taxes but want to pay more.
Comparing Trump to Bernie Madoff is absurd. He worked hard and for his money and did not steal it. I don't know how NY'ers could fall for Sanders because they already pay extremely high taxes but want to pay more.
Bernie says "Wall Street" as often as Rudy said "9/11." There is a lesson here. What could it be?
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New Yorkers know a carpetbagger when they see one, and boy did Hillary and Bill fill theirs up: 200,000,000.00 + personally and another 2,000,000,000.00+ for the Clinton Foundation. Not a bad haul for no decernable talents aside from connections and a Rolodex.
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Every campaign is an opportunity for more $$$$$$$$$$$$....
What intelligent, rational adult would say -- echoing Mr. Sanders, one assumes -- that "big money interests will not continue to dominate American politics?"
Not a one. Big money has always, will always, rule. And we would never have heard a peep from Mr. Sanders if he hadn't had the money to pay for the peeps.
So wise up, dreamers. Vote for the woman who knows what she, as President, can and cannot do. Or lose your ventures.
Not a one. Big money has always, will always, rule. And we would never have heard a peep from Mr. Sanders if he hadn't had the money to pay for the peeps.
So wise up, dreamers. Vote for the woman who knows what she, as President, can and cannot do. Or lose your ventures.
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I wouldn't vote for Clinton if she were the only candidate running. She makes my physically ill.
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People like you may hand the general election to Trump or Cruz. You should be ashamed.
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She shouldn't be ashamed because she can't, in good conscience, cast a vote for Hillary. It is her right to vote, or not vote, for whoever she wants.
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Voted for Hillary because I registered Democrat in mid-September, just as ifyouwantbernie.com told me to do. Really says something about Bernie that he might not win the Democratic New York primary, to his supporters' immense frustration, because his supporters are not Democrats.
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True it does say something...and that is its time for strong a Third Party without all the cronies with their hands out like the Democratic and Republican Parties.
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Fine, then start one.
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Looking at maps I have noticed that Bernie does better outside of large metropolitan areas. MA and WI come to mind. The pundits think the Democratic votes are in NYC and overlook upstate. That might be a mistake.
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When are the Bernie supporters and the media going to start asking questions about his money? We know those young people in his audiences arent donating all those millions. The money is coming from dark places on the Republican side. The GOP knows Sanders cant win. He is a street preacher. He is old and arthritic looking and his msg is a pie in the sky.
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Bernie's campaign money came from people like me. My largest donation for him so far is $50. His average donated amount is $27. Hope this answers your question.
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Here are two truths:
1) Hillary is the one who ABSOLUTELY needs to win today or else people will seriously question her campaign. She was the senator of this state. Bernie is not expected to win this. He was over 40 points behind just a few weeks ago and now is within single digits. Him winning today would be he most incredible upset in American political history. Even if he comes just a few points short, it would still keep him in the race. Hillary cannot afford to lose this state.
2) The reason we are talking about this New York primary is precisely because the race is very close so stop talking about how Hillary is the heavy favorite. Sanders deserves more respect.
1) Hillary is the one who ABSOLUTELY needs to win today or else people will seriously question her campaign. She was the senator of this state. Bernie is not expected to win this. He was over 40 points behind just a few weeks ago and now is within single digits. Him winning today would be he most incredible upset in American political history. Even if he comes just a few points short, it would still keep him in the race. Hillary cannot afford to lose this state.
2) The reason we are talking about this New York primary is precisely because the race is very close so stop talking about how Hillary is the heavy favorite. Sanders deserves more respect.
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I'll be happy to make a deal with Madame Secretary. If she will release her speeches, I will not write in Senator Sanders name in the general election if she wins the primary.
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I'll make that deal too.
The constant carping and whining from Sanders supporters about the bias against their candidate becomes evermore shrill and annoying. That being said, a majority of Sanders supporters have moved from being ardent supporters to fervent zealots, and zealotry brooks no criticism of its anointed leaders. Bernie brings forth many valid points to the campaign but has not shown any capability of moving past his mantra of big money is evil and restoring Glass Steagal is the magic panacea for all of the nation's ills.
If those who rail so vehemently against Clinton and any articles projecting her eventual candidacy, what will they say when the GOP machine unleashes its propaganda and smear tactics against the candidate Sanders? Then they would have ample cause to complain.
If those who rail so vehemently against Clinton and any articles projecting her eventual candidacy, what will they say when the GOP machine unleashes its propaganda and smear tactics against the candidate Sanders? Then they would have ample cause to complain.
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Another bash at Sanders supporters.
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Yes, exactly. You seem to think that bashing is a one sided affair.
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Sorry James, the truth hurts, the times has been completely one sided on it coverage, they came very late into the game of even covering Sanders.
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I guess we in upstate cannot vote until 12:00 noon today. Talk about voter suppression!
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The NYT shows its HillRy bias in subtle ways- when a rally is not "full" , as is claimed for yesterday's Bklyn rally, it is mentioned. When the overflow is so huge that perhaps 40,000 could not even get into Eashington Sq park it is NOT noted. When latest polls show Sanders only 2% behind (compared to more than 30 months ago) it is still noted that Clinton is still the "overwhelming favorite" "All the news".....that fits the NYT 's bias!
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Nobody for president!
I don't want any of the two-party candidates to be elected. Let's take a 'None Of The Above' poll and see how many Americans feel the same.
We are all victims of the 2-Party scam. A third of American voters have already rejected party affiliation. But we are still stuck with the same two-party candidates. American Democracy is a joke, but most of us are not laughing.
I don't want any of the two-party candidates to be elected. Let's take a 'None Of The Above' poll and see how many Americans feel the same.
We are all victims of the 2-Party scam. A third of American voters have already rejected party affiliation. But we are still stuck with the same two-party candidates. American Democracy is a joke, but most of us are not laughing.
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Quit bellyaching and start a new party if you want one. Or there are several other parties that already exist. Vote in one of them.
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"Our woman???" Not my woman, NYT. And I vote too. Why do you keep putting a finger on the scale? That is not journalism, it is something else.
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Our woman refers to the writer of the article.
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They're referring to their reporter, Maggie Haberman. This would have been made clear to you upon reading the first paragraph.
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The usage of words was perfectly stealth as holding double meanings, the writer and candidate, and the NYT knows it- as do many readers reading this article.
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With a big Trump primary victory and an increasingly bitter divide between Clinton and Sanders, New York may indeed go a long way toward electing our next president... The Donald.
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The NYT is sooo transparently in the bag for Hillary Clinton it's laughable. You may be right that she's your woman. News flash to NYT and Maggie Haberman: Here in Wisconsin we pretty much sent the message that you can keep her! She's yours- we don't want her.
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You've misread the headline. "Our woman" refers to Maggie Haberman who wrote the piece.
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Nonsense. It was a play on words and the NYT knows it.
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Claire: it's only nonsense if the word "woman" can only mean Hillary Clinton. Previous entries in the election series talked about "our man" in this and that place -- a play on Graham Greene's "Our Man in Havana." If "our man" is not loaded with bias -- and nobody seemed to think it was -- then "our woman" is equally free of it.
Only one candidate is saying, very simply, the emperor has no clothes.
No clothes.
Yes, Virginia, the country is once again in the hands of the oligarchs.
And establishment icons are shocked. Shocked.
We can't let him stand there and simply tell the truth.
Bernie Sanders for president 2016.
No clothes.
Yes, Virginia, the country is once again in the hands of the oligarchs.
And establishment icons are shocked. Shocked.
We can't let him stand there and simply tell the truth.
Bernie Sanders for president 2016.
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Please, let these would-be emperors keep their clothes on!
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Funny how often anti-Sanders campaigners keep saying that socialism is unattainable, or stating how 'awful' China and the Soviet Union were. On the first one, pro-leftist (by American standards 'socialism') are seen with significant presence in Latin America, Europe and Southeast Asia. These countries all have cheaper education than we do. Many of the developed countries do better on standardized testing. Countries like Cuba managed to have better health care systems than us, while under a blockade!
As far as the 'terrible' state of former Communist countries, people should wake up from the propaganda. In the USSR, schooling was free, university was cheap, and public housing easily accessible. Many people had paid 4 weeks vacation, and childcare was provided by the state. Everyone screams about human rights violations (rightfully so), but lest we forget in that period America was no better- Japanese containment camps, McCarthyism, and Jim Crow. I am not saying Communism is a good or viable model, but surely we can appreciate the benefits it has over the sub-par elements of ours.
The rich own multiple properties while many Americans can no longer afford one. Many Americans are saddled with debt they cannot pay. University if becoming a good ole boys that you can only pay for if your parents are wealthy. Status and wealth in our society is being passed on through generations. You know what that is? Oligarchy. Let's change before it's too late and we are forced to change.
As far as the 'terrible' state of former Communist countries, people should wake up from the propaganda. In the USSR, schooling was free, university was cheap, and public housing easily accessible. Many people had paid 4 weeks vacation, and childcare was provided by the state. Everyone screams about human rights violations (rightfully so), but lest we forget in that period America was no better- Japanese containment camps, McCarthyism, and Jim Crow. I am not saying Communism is a good or viable model, but surely we can appreciate the benefits it has over the sub-par elements of ours.
The rich own multiple properties while many Americans can no longer afford one. Many Americans are saddled with debt they cannot pay. University if becoming a good ole boys that you can only pay for if your parents are wealthy. Status and wealth in our society is being passed on through generations. You know what that is? Oligarchy. Let's change before it's too late and we are forced to change.
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Me detects a bit of nastiness and short-tempers of Hillary Clinton supporters on this comment thread: The Confidence in your candidate should cause you to be more uplifted than "snippy".
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Why are there no articles on how millions of New Yorkers can't vote today because NY is not an open primary state?
I think NY needs to become more progressive in regards to voting, especially in a time in which there are candidates like trump and sanders, we need to open the primaries up to ALL parties, to ALL people and advance the two party system.
I think NY needs to become more progressive in regards to voting, especially in a time in which there are candidates like trump and sanders, we need to open the primaries up to ALL parties, to ALL people and advance the two party system.
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We like the policy of Mr. Trump to force Saudi Arabia to send troops to battle their Sunni Muslim allies ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
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If the New York Times was what it once was.. it would by now have laid a hand on some of those TRANSCRIPTS of the speeches Hillary gave to Goldman Sacks....
Then we would have a clear understanding of who she really is....
What a sunny day it was yesterday..I think I got a little sunBERN on my old bald head..
Then we would have a clear understanding of who she really is....
What a sunny day it was yesterday..I think I got a little sunBERN on my old bald head..
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Don't you think that by this time someone who attended one of those speeches would have come forward and got a tidy little sum if they 'spilled the beans' on Hillary, telling how she made promises? Don't you think Gawker has had plants at those speaking engagements trying to get something on her? Don't you realize it was all just a 'dirty trick' on Sanders part, using lascivious innuendo to smear Hillary?
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actually, some transcripts are in the public domain. overheard, and recorded was, "now make it payable to Hillary Rodham Clinton".
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The thing to watch for is the unending media bias. Look at your coverage today, it's really a joke (sin of omission). TV pundits should just wear their Hillary buttons. Where is the historical contact given in the NYT to inform readers, for example, to explain that Sanders follows in an American tradition of progressivism? Where is the reference to his being named one of the best mayors of a US city during that tenure in Burlington? You can keep your Clinton endorsement without sacrificing journalistic integrity. NYT no more fair and balanced than Fox News.
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Should say "historical context".... FDR, New Deal, and much more.
Clinton won the 2008 primary not Obama.
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There have been several articles in the mainstream media that this primary may be closer on the Democratic side than your headline suggests, despite the fact that registration is as triple-locked as a New York hotel room door. Also, let's not forget that polling is notoriously unreliable given the number of people, especially in trendsetting places like New York, who do not have landlines. They are disproportionately likely to vote for Sanders.
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(Maybe the pollsters know that)
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It is a known problem but very difficult to correct for. (I'm not a statistician but know a number of people who are.)
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To understand the true status of the Democratic Party presidential race -- not the spin of Hillary Clinton -- go here: http://tinyurl.com/true-Dem-race-status .
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If the general election were held today, and the choice was either Bernie or Hillary, Hillary would win overwhelmingly. I've said this many times, and not one person, Berniebros included, has disagreed.
"The American People"-- not primary/caucus voters, not Black or White, not Dem or Repub, urban or rural, and so on-- choose the candidate that is perceived to be moderate and perceived to be a calm, competent Commander-in-Chief.
*It is the job of the party, D or R, to pick that person as their candidate.*
Hillary is the clear choice on both counts. Choosing otherwise risks disaster.
"The American People"-- not primary/caucus voters, not Black or White, not Dem or Repub, urban or rural, and so on-- choose the candidate that is perceived to be moderate and perceived to be a calm, competent Commander-in-Chief.
*It is the job of the party, D or R, to pick that person as their candidate.*
Hillary is the clear choice on both counts. Choosing otherwise risks disaster.
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There is no mandate to choose Hillary. It is not my job to choose Hillary.
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@Siobhan,
I didn't say it was your job, I said it was the job of the party.
You appear to be yet another person who confuses the general election with the primaries.
I didn't say it was your job, I said it was the job of the party.
You appear to be yet another person who confuses the general election with the primaries.
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True, the Republicans would all vote for Hillary is the only alternative was Bernie. That is the problem with Hillary, a reason NOT to pick her as the Democratic candidate.
It also does not mean she can win the general election better than could Bernie, running against an actual Republican who would highlight the need for what Bernie says and Hillary's failure to offer a real alternative to Republican thinking.
It also does not mean she can win the general election better than could Bernie, running against an actual Republican who would highlight the need for what Bernie says and Hillary's failure to offer a real alternative to Republican thinking.
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"Senator Bernie Sanders .....spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters."
How about, comments in which voters could hear that wins in the heavily conservative south do not translate into wins in November for Democrats; that is the real concern.
How about, comments in which voters could hear that wins in the heavily conservative south do not translate into wins in November for Democrats; that is the real concern.
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Statistically, because you come from such a 'white state-94%,' you are most likely while and your take is not what a Black individual's would be. Blacks hear somehow they're not smart enough to vote responsibly.
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Yeah, southern states like Virginia and Florida. Oops, Obama won those states in 2012. And oh yeah, North Carolina, which Obama won in 2008.
But using the same logic, shouldn't we get rid of the middle of the country states like Idaho, Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Utah? And of course there's Alaska. Not much chance that any of those will translate into wins in November for Democrats, either. It's unfortunate I guess that all those states went to Sanders.
Interesting too that all seven of those states are caucus states. Isn't that the most unrepresentative way to elect delegates?
But using the same logic, shouldn't we get rid of the middle of the country states like Idaho, Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Utah? And of course there's Alaska. Not much chance that any of those will translate into wins in November for Democrats, either. It's unfortunate I guess that all those states went to Sanders.
Interesting too that all seven of those states are caucus states. Isn't that the most unrepresentative way to elect delegates?
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Wins in the "heavily conservative south" DO translate into delegate totals and a win in July. You do remember that this is a primary, right?
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After today and next Tuesday it will be time to start helping Sanders supporters "heal the bern." Time to focus on the critically important big picture - making sure Donald trump never goes to the White House except as a visitor. And making sure as many Democrats get into congress and state office as possible.
Everyone except a minority of deluded and conned Republican primary voters can agree that trump has no business even running for office. Your class president in high school has more experience in elected office than trump.
Everyone except a minority of deluded and conned Republican primary voters can agree that trump has no business even running for office. Your class president in high school has more experience in elected office than trump.
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Dream on. Hillary will never draw those new Bernie supporters into status quo politics. She'll be on her own.
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Why would a progressive vote for Hillary? She is against everything Sanders stands for -- and for everything Sanders is against. We should vote for her because she's "not Trump"? That is not persuasive for me.
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If the goal is to beat trump, you should pick the candidate that does the best against him right?
Lets take a look at who that is.... Not Hillary.
Nothing wrong with supporting Hillary. but your justification doesn't make sense.
Lets take a look at who that is.... Not Hillary.
Nothing wrong with supporting Hillary. but your justification doesn't make sense.
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Well, I imagine our author will soon be joining the rest of the reporters who have had so much more fun covering Sanders than Clinton. With Sanders' thirteen minutes of fame slowly ebbing away, so is our hearing the voices of those who are out voting today for their Sugar Daddy Candidate who has promised them free education and the absolution of their student loan debt. And boy will being a reporter become so much more less fun reporting on things than hanging out at Bernie rallies.
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Yes, from now on we will only have to hear about Wall St.'s sugar daddy, Mrs Clinton.
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Why so bitter?
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Covering Sanders? Hillary supporters really do live in an alternate reality. He's gotten a fraction of the coverage thus far. Also, have you seen the polls? She went from 50+ points leads to 17 points to 7 points. If she were a stock, I'd sell.
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"Clinton is heavily favored"...? The NY Times has been laughably biased against Sanders from the beginning, often focusing on the smallest negative issue about his message and ignoring any of his success on the campaign trail. It's good to see that they are at least consistent in their pro Israel/Clinton favoritism.
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Hillary is up by 13% on average in polls. That's heavily favored.
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From the Kensington FB group:
"I just voted at PS 230. The man in front of me asked if he could switch his ballot from Democrat to Republican. The election worker took back his democratic ballot and gave him a republican one. It came to my turn and as they're looking for my name, they asked me which ballot I would like, democrat or republican. I said, "Aren't I only allowed to have the one that I'm registered as?" They looked at each other, unsure. One got up to ask a superior, came back and said, "You're right. Thank you." I said, "Make sure all the other volunteers know that." She said she would. Then she asked me if I knew the name of the man who voted before me, whom they had allowed to change ballots. I said no, and they looked at each other with concern."
"I just voted at PS 230. The man in front of me asked if he could switch his ballot from Democrat to Republican. The election worker took back his democratic ballot and gave him a republican one. It came to my turn and as they're looking for my name, they asked me which ballot I would like, democrat or republican. I said, "Aren't I only allowed to have the one that I'm registered as?" They looked at each other, unsure. One got up to ask a superior, came back and said, "You're right. Thank you." I said, "Make sure all the other volunteers know that." She said she would. Then she asked me if I knew the name of the man who voted before me, whom they had allowed to change ballots. I said no, and they looked at each other with concern."
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Our society is riddled with incompetence.
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That's scary!
But, as a monitor at a Dem Nevada caucus, I also witnessed lack of training, in that caucus, of the caucus chair. This led to Clinton supporters taking over the discussion prior to the voting.
Most likely, incompetence and/or lack of training of on the ground election workers results in many unrecognized, skewed election results.
But, as a monitor at a Dem Nevada caucus, I also witnessed lack of training, in that caucus, of the caucus chair. This led to Clinton supporters taking over the discussion prior to the voting.
Most likely, incompetence and/or lack of training of on the ground election workers results in many unrecognized, skewed election results.
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They should have been able to figure that out by leafing through the registry where they just wrote the ballot number next to name and address. Holy smokes, people!
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I'm 100% for Hillary!
She had been designated by popular opinion to be our first women president.
Supported by Lena Denham, George Clooney, and the municipal unions, she explodes across the landscape like a dynamo of idealism & imagination.
Unlike Trump who like some Neanderthal pays for his own campaign, Hillary is shrewdly using the Goldman Sachs & Hollywood ATMs to project her exciting message far & wide....
She had been designated by popular opinion to be our first women president.
Supported by Lena Denham, George Clooney, and the municipal unions, she explodes across the landscape like a dynamo of idealism & imagination.
Unlike Trump who like some Neanderthal pays for his own campaign, Hillary is shrewdly using the Goldman Sachs & Hollywood ATMs to project her exciting message far & wide....
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Judging by campaign talking-points recently, I'm guessing today's outcome is going to be indecisive for both sides in the Democratic race. That in itself is a victory for Sanders but obviously doesn't help his cause. The question now is just how indecisive?
Fortunately, New York is a forgone conclusion. That's why their primary hasn't mattered in decades. I doubt it would matter now if it weren't for candidates with a connection to New York. Things don't look like their going to impact the Democratic outcome anyway. Good news. NY still doesn't matter.
See what I did there? People don't like to have their political influence denigrated even if seemingly ineffectual. I'm not referring to Sanders' recent comments on his campaign strategy either. Taking semantics over syntax, that was a minor slip in comparison to the Clintons' (plural) recent gaffs.
No. I'm talking about the longstanding and pernicious dismissal of rural voters, caucus voters, white-state voters, red-state voters and basically any vote that isn't the speaker's own.
The irony of the "Deep South" non-issue is writers like Charles M. Blow and others will craft entire columns dismissing the vote of all these people in order to diminish their opponent. However, the same writers will turn around and express moral outrage arguing against exactly their own behavior when it's favorable to their candidate. I can't decide if it makes me ill, angry, or both.
Good luck today New York. Polls close at 9:00.
Fortunately, New York is a forgone conclusion. That's why their primary hasn't mattered in decades. I doubt it would matter now if it weren't for candidates with a connection to New York. Things don't look like their going to impact the Democratic outcome anyway. Good news. NY still doesn't matter.
See what I did there? People don't like to have their political influence denigrated even if seemingly ineffectual. I'm not referring to Sanders' recent comments on his campaign strategy either. Taking semantics over syntax, that was a minor slip in comparison to the Clintons' (plural) recent gaffs.
No. I'm talking about the longstanding and pernicious dismissal of rural voters, caucus voters, white-state voters, red-state voters and basically any vote that isn't the speaker's own.
The irony of the "Deep South" non-issue is writers like Charles M. Blow and others will craft entire columns dismissing the vote of all these people in order to diminish their opponent. However, the same writers will turn around and express moral outrage arguing against exactly their own behavior when it's favorable to their candidate. I can't decide if it makes me ill, angry, or both.
Good luck today New York. Polls close at 9:00.
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Not loosing badly is not a victory. It is still loosing.
Anyone who can read knows that the Times has slanted and shilled relentlessly for Hillary; its throughly biased and distorted reporting and its hatchet jobs, coverage blackouts and negativity regarding Sanders has not gone unnoticed, will not be forgotten, and marks a new low in journalistic practice for what was once the newspaper of record.
I for one hopes Bernie wins big and wipes that smug smile of entitlement off Hillary's face, while forcing the Times to eat its own words.
I for one hopes Bernie wins big and wipes that smug smile of entitlement off Hillary's face, while forcing the Times to eat its own words.
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Not going to happen.
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I went to the polls at 6:30 this morning and proudly voted for Donald J. Trump.
I had originally been a Republican out of High School and voted for Reagan once in person,and once absentee while serving in the US Navy. After that I went Independent. I was sickened by how the GOP had been taken over by the Social conservative extremists (Like Cruz) and couldn't be a Democrat because of liberal extremist views that seemed to think burning the flag was patriotic but waving the flag was xenophobic.
When Trump came on the scene, finally I said, a breath of fresh air. A nationalistic, "American First" Republican, who is also a moderate on the social issues. So I re-registered as a Republican last summer and have been a vocal supporter of Trump on social media.
I don't know what's going to happen in the next few months in this crazy crazy election year. But for today at least, I was proud to be an American. A citizen of NY who had a chance to vote for a candidate that I passionately believe in and support. And that hasn't happened for me in 30 years
I had originally been a Republican out of High School and voted for Reagan once in person,and once absentee while serving in the US Navy. After that I went Independent. I was sickened by how the GOP had been taken over by the Social conservative extremists (Like Cruz) and couldn't be a Democrat because of liberal extremist views that seemed to think burning the flag was patriotic but waving the flag was xenophobic.
When Trump came on the scene, finally I said, a breath of fresh air. A nationalistic, "American First" Republican, who is also a moderate on the social issues. So I re-registered as a Republican last summer and have been a vocal supporter of Trump on social media.
I don't know what's going to happen in the next few months in this crazy crazy election year. But for today at least, I was proud to be an American. A citizen of NY who had a chance to vote for a candidate that I passionately believe in and support. And that hasn't happened for me in 30 years
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Right party - wrong candidate. My AM entry >> Hope Kasich gets 2nd place - 1 vote - in most of the 27 NY Districts - & Hope Trump held to less than 50% statewide - and less than 50% in most of the 27 Districts, in which case Kasich (currently 2nd ahead of Cruz), can win some proportional votes statewide - and win "X" # of 1 vote per 2nd place in "Y" # of Districts. Stopping Trump from getting all 95 NY delegates is a key - but even a sweep by DT keeps his nomination before the July Convention as challenging - as Kasich can pick up votes in the NE & Cruz gets votes in Mid-North - and California on June 7 will be pivotal. Another set of GOP "super Tuesdays" is 5 states April 26 and 5 states June 7. Bring on a "contested" Convention, Go John Kasich - the Only one in all polls & Real Clear Politics that can beat presumed nominee Hillary Clinton in the Presidential - one would think the "angry" constituents and "far right" GOP'ers would recognize this & not be overly focused on winning the nomination (the battle), only to lose the war in the Presidential.
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Thank you for speaking honestly about Ted Cruz.
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"Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Mrs. Clinton’s rival, spoke derisively during their debate in Brooklyn last week of her previous wins in the South, comments in which voters could hear a thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters"
Whaat? I think he was referring to the fact that those states don't vote blue in presidential elections. Senator Sanders does not use "Dog Whistles".
But, evidently Maggie Haberman does. Shame on you, Maggie!
Whaat? I think he was referring to the fact that those states don't vote blue in presidential elections. Senator Sanders does not use "Dog Whistles".
But, evidently Maggie Haberman does. Shame on you, Maggie!
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Hear, hear. Shame on Maggie Haberman and the NYT editors for this.
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Bernie won in several states that don't vote blue including Wyoming, Kansas, Idaho, Oklahoma. These are great victories that show his amazing momentum and the coming revolution. Yet hers are meaningless because TX, SC, etc will never go blue. How can he explain this inconsistency? Why are her red state victories (in primaries, rather than caucuses and in much larger states) less important? It's a strange line of thinking.
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Lots and lots of people, black and white, understood his comment the same way. So what are you suggesting - that the South not be allowed to vote in a Democratic primary? Then let's get rid of those Bernie states, like Wyoming, Oklahoma, and others that won't go "blue" in November either. Taken in context of the fact that ANY Democrat is going to win the blue states of OR and WA, it is definitely open to the interpretation that he was discounting heavily black states. Or frankly any state where he doesn't do well!
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Hillary is not "heavily favored". Her margin, if she wins at all, will be slim. The New York Times is not-so-subtly trying to tip the election in favor of the ex-Senator from Wall Street, Hillary Clinton. Why? the Times needs advertising revenues, and corporations spend the most. The NYT is first and foremost an advertising vehicle; secondarily a news medium.
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In eight polls taken in the last week, her average lead is over 11%, with the high 17 and the low 6. Seems heavily favored to me. Data from Real Clear Politics.
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I think you are misunderstanding the term "heavily favored" -- it doesn't mean a landslide. Odds makers are giving her about a 94% chance of winning. That can include a win by 1%.
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Speaking of ad revenue... Funny that the site that gets $15 a month from me interrupted my reading of this article to tell me I have to turn my ad blocker off. Why are they shilling for Hillary? Because the corporate media wants to make sure that the corporate candidate is elected.
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Look at the language used to describe Sanders' campaign here:
Sanders "spoke disparagingly" in the debate in a way that could be taken as a "thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters". Insinuating a little bit of racism.
Comparing his campaign to the "insurgent" campaign of Zephyr Teachout. It's a word that inarguably has negative and violent connotations.
Then this one - "But the park was not close to full by 8 p.m. No matter". This one is especially ridiculous because contained in the wording is the implication that the expectation was for the park to be full. Prospect Park is colossal. Noone would fill it up. 28,000 is huge.
It would be one thing if this was an opinion piece, but it is presenting itself as an objective account of the events surrounding the NY primary. This type of barely-concealed derision is so common in articles purporting to be objective, and I'm sick of it.
Sanders "spoke disparagingly" in the debate in a way that could be taken as a "thinly veiled jab at primaries with lots of black voters". Insinuating a little bit of racism.
Comparing his campaign to the "insurgent" campaign of Zephyr Teachout. It's a word that inarguably has negative and violent connotations.
Then this one - "But the park was not close to full by 8 p.m. No matter". This one is especially ridiculous because contained in the wording is the implication that the expectation was for the park to be full. Prospect Park is colossal. Noone would fill it up. 28,000 is huge.
It would be one thing if this was an opinion piece, but it is presenting itself as an objective account of the events surrounding the NY primary. This type of barely-concealed derision is so common in articles purporting to be objective, and I'm sick of it.
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Agreed with everything you just said. Our primary is up next and everyone I know is voting for Sanders!
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You missed one: describing Sanders, who grew up in Brooklyn, as an "outsider!"
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I agree with you, except the park reference. The writer was not referencing Prospect Park, which clearly could hold hundreds of thousands, but rather his next speech in Long Island City.
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While the NYT' investigative journalism, particularly of government and corporate corruption has been excellent, it's coverage of US Senator Bernie Sanders campaign for President is a embarrassment. Its promise - or our expectation - of established journalistic standards, of integrity and fairness, of truth-telling is lost in the Times' uncritical support for the status quo (and multi-millionaire) candidate Hilary Clinton, former Secretary of State. SHAME!
PS one could not help but notice the double entendre of this article's headline: OUR WOMAN IN NEW YORK which on the one hand is so clever, but on the other is just a tad patronizing if not sexist on its own. To close it is BERNIE SANDERS who has massive and visible support, not the multi- millionaires and billionaires who cause such deep and sustained human suffering here and abroad.
PS one could not help but notice the double entendre of this article's headline: OUR WOMAN IN NEW YORK which on the one hand is so clever, but on the other is just a tad patronizing if not sexist on its own. To close it is BERNIE SANDERS who has massive and visible support, not the multi- millionaires and billionaires who cause such deep and sustained human suffering here and abroad.
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Students can cut classes and attend rallies as easily as sending off a text. Besides, it's just so much more fun to hang out, hook up, and harp about what a hypocrite Hillary is. Meanwhile, Hillary gets it that there are those who work for a living and simply can't just drop what they're doing and attend a rally. So, she'll plan venues throughout the day and evening and into the night to meet with those that can make time in their day to see her.
You see, Life isn't all about what's just happening in your limited-snow-globe-experience like when you're young. You'll encounter a broader life experience as you mature, one that comes at you in a myriad of ways you just haven't had the life experiences to know about yet, and then be able to appreciate. You'll see.
You see, Life isn't all about what's just happening in your limited-snow-globe-experience like when you're young. You'll encounter a broader life experience as you mature, one that comes at you in a myriad of ways you just haven't had the life experiences to know about yet, and then be able to appreciate. You'll see.
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I really hope that NYC, a global, sophisticated, multicultural city, will not succumb to the dubious appeal of Sanders' negative campaigning. Big cities and socialism don't mix: look at what used to be East Berlin versus its Western counterpart; at Bejing before the return of free markets; at crowded and filthy Moscow during the Soviet era. Vote Hillary, the only sane - and urban - candidate in the race. As for the Republican side: I used to think Trump was the worst option but now that Cruz is ascendant, perhaps we should all root for the real-estate developer. At least, he has the "New York values"!
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Do you agree that politics, especially the two party system that leaves Americans with no choice but to be a D or a R, is a fair, democratic system?
Everything isn't roses in America. Something is going wrong, and there needs to be a discussion of the negative things going on.
Everything isn't roses in America. Something is going wrong, and there needs to be a discussion of the negative things going on.
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Oh come on. Every industrialized nation on earth has free accessible health care for all its citizens. Most major nations also have free college education. In fact, I received my Brooklyn College education free. We could do it then, why can't we do it now?
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East Berlin, Beijing, and Moscow are not socialist cities. Stockholm, Oslo, and Copenhagen are. Compare the quality and richness of life there with what it's like here. We're more like Dickens' London at this point, and we believe we can do better.
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Don't look now NYTimes management, but your bias is showing. Over the past week your coverage of the Sanders campaign has been conspicuous by its absence. While Clinton was drawing hundreds to her events, Sanders was drawing tens of thousands. The Times was not alone among major East Coast media in its virtual blackout of reporting on the massively attended rallies for Sanders.
The absence of coverage did not go unnoticed by media outside the U.S. Discussion in The Guardian questioned whether vested interests were at play. Odd indeed that the Guardian's coverage of the New York campaign would be so much more thorough than that of the New York Times.
The absence of coverage did not go unnoticed by media outside the U.S. Discussion in The Guardian questioned whether vested interests were at play. Odd indeed that the Guardian's coverage of the New York campaign would be so much more thorough than that of the New York Times.
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Dear Maggy, Do you realize that the adults in the room have jobs and can't attend rallies in the middle of the day or in the evening because the last thing they need to do is stand around listening to the same old rant about Wall Street, finance reform, Hillary's speaking engagement fees, her supporting trade pacts, et al?
Sanders' rallies became 'fun' things to do for the Millennial generation. Can't you just hear it? "Are you going to the Bernie rally?"
This is a generation who a year ago didn't know Bernie Sanders from Colonel Sanders, but when they heard about some old Senator from Vermont who will propose free education and absolving those of the debt they've already accrued, they got on board the Bernie express.
Well, it's all about to end and then what? For one thing, you'll be able to cancel your Times' Subscriptions and start paying off all those $30 donations Sanders' predatorily bilked you out of.
Sanders' rallies became 'fun' things to do for the Millennial generation. Can't you just hear it? "Are you going to the Bernie rally?"
This is a generation who a year ago didn't know Bernie Sanders from Colonel Sanders, but when they heard about some old Senator from Vermont who will propose free education and absolving those of the debt they've already accrued, they got on board the Bernie express.
Well, it's all about to end and then what? For one thing, you'll be able to cancel your Times' Subscriptions and start paying off all those $30 donations Sanders' predatorily bilked you out of.
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At this point, the readers have called the NYT on its bias so many times, it will probably take embarrassment in the international community before anything remotely closer to objective reporting occurs. So, a big thank you to The Guardian for reporting on what has become painfully obvious to so many of us regular NYT readers.
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ASsThe Young Turks continually reports, SIX major media conglomerates own and control all hews outlets and they ALL have an vested/ financial interest in supporting Clinton, as Les Moonves revealed in the media's endless coverage of Trump.
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Isn't our woman in New York the Times correspondent? This article isn't exclusively about the other woman in New York, Hillary Clinton. It's about the primary.
Copyediting lapse?
Copyediting lapse?
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I've been thinking the same thing, that "our woman in New York" is meant to be the writer. Perhaps it was also meant to be a double entendre? Anyway, I found it to be both egotistical and confusing. Ditto the reference to the reporter's first published article at age seven, as well as the photo of her at the end. Altogether not a fine piece of writing or editing.
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Amd you fell right into it, didn't you?
At a time when the D’s and R’s can’t agree on anything in Washington, extremists in the Tea Party and Occupy have grabbed firm hold of the rightmost and leftmost campaigns, promising to destroy the party, if necessary, to get what they covet. And, certain candidates – so wholly consumed with winning a Primary at any cost – forget the parable of Solomon and the baby’s claimants, blithely cleaving their parties in two and ignoring the damage done to prospects for the General. Never expecting much wisdom from the Right, I say, “Shame on you, Bernie.”
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"promising to destroy the party, if necessary"
We need to destroy the Party of rich Democrats selling us out to rich Republicans. The status quo is the problem, the DNC and all its works, Hillary foremost at the moment.
We need to destroy the Party of rich Democrats selling us out to rich Republicans. The status quo is the problem, the DNC and all its works, Hillary foremost at the moment.
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Bernie Sander speaks for me -- Hillary Clinton does not.
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Maybe people want the parties cleaved in two? Why are these two parties the only choice for President? Debates that only present these two sides, money that keeps other voices out, primaries that choose who gets to run that only allow party members to vote, etc. etc. etc. This is a democracy - let's start acting like one by taking away the "party" rule.
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Bernie Sanders is giving Hillary a good race and us -the voters- a good alternative. The youth is behind Bernie Sanders and I respect their wishes, after all, it's their future and only a little bit mine.
Hillary Clinton is not leading by much in New York, so there is room for a surprise that I would like to see as well. Clinton is only ahead in the race, because people knew her and Bernie Sanders was fairly unknown. Then when people got to know him that's when it started to shift.
Hillary Clinton is not leading by much in New York, so there is room for a surprise that I would like to see as well. Clinton is only ahead in the race, because people knew her and Bernie Sanders was fairly unknown. Then when people got to know him that's when it started to shift.
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You got that right. A year ago most of the Millennials didn't know Bernie Sanders from Colonel Sanders. But once they found out he was proposing free college educations and absolving the Student Loan debt of those who had already accrued it, yeah, that's when things started to shift. How surprising and wonderful to have your own Sugar Daddy Candidate.
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I'm only sorry that his campaign managers didn't do more to educate independent voters all over the US about the importance of registering as a Democrat in order to vote in a primary. If Bernie doesn't win, I think it will be in large part because his staff wasn't savvy enough.
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Unfortunately, Bernie won't be able to do as well in NY as in other states due to independents not being able to vote in the Democrat primary like they could elsewhere.
Given Bernie's comments on the lack of value of Southern Democrats it seems his slogan should be Only White Votes Matter.
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Hillary the rich again here hides behind Obama and blacks, except for when she blames Obama for things she did, and stabs in the back the "super-predators" who deserve mass incarceration and certainly don't deserve a living minimum wage.
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oh, please! That's ridiculous. You know what he meant, and you know that it is true: the Southern states where Hillary won the primaries will NEVER go Dem in the general. Thus, her strength there just doesn't mean much. It's a fact.
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Re nyalman1
Writing from the South:
I have lived in the South for much of my life. Florida (Bradenton), Texas (San Antonio), Georgia (Augusta- which is a river from South Carolina), Tennessee & Kentucky (Ft Campbell- literally on the Tennessee/Kentucky line), and now in the Metro area near Memphis where Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi meet. Tell me I have no credibility to comment on this.
Hillary would be out of the race except for the Old Confederacy. None of these states is likely to send a Democratic Elector to Washington come December when the Electoral College meets saving maybe Florida and Virginia. Why should the socially conservative south that votes Republican get to pick who the Democrats nominate? That was the source of Bernie's comments- it is not racial.
Writing from the South:
I have lived in the South for much of my life. Florida (Bradenton), Texas (San Antonio), Georgia (Augusta- which is a river from South Carolina), Tennessee & Kentucky (Ft Campbell- literally on the Tennessee/Kentucky line), and now in the Metro area near Memphis where Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi meet. Tell me I have no credibility to comment on this.
Hillary would be out of the race except for the Old Confederacy. None of these states is likely to send a Democratic Elector to Washington come December when the Electoral College meets saving maybe Florida and Virginia. Why should the socially conservative south that votes Republican get to pick who the Democrats nominate? That was the source of Bernie's comments- it is not racial.
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Found this author a little narcissistic. The article is about the primary; thus the privileged (yes why not disclose some background) childhood anecdote at the beginning and the photo focusing on herself in the end are hardly relevant. There are some extraordinary columnists writing for NYTimes. Don't see them do this.
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Because the style of the article is geared towards social media - where narcissism is the norm - than a news story.
In 2008, Barack Obama constantly reminded voters that Hillary Clinton, not Barack Obama, voted to attack Iraq on transparently flimsy evidence generated by a ham-handed neoconservative propaganda machine. There was a feeling among most Democrats that the biggest foreign policy debacle in modern American history was a line in the sand: if anyone in Congress had been either so incredibly naive or so incredibly calculating as to vote Yes on a war that was so obviously based on lies -- a war that, in its lead-up, caused millions of people march in protest because they knew what a stupid, terrible idea it was -- well, that politician was to be rightly ridiculed and was NOT to be rewarded with the responsibilities of high office. As Democrats vote to today, let's not forget who were are.
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Obama chose Biden as his vice president, even though Biden voted to authorize the war in Iraq. So clearly Obama did not feel that a Yes vote disqualified a person from high office.
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Thank you, EBS. I think Hillary supporters would be well served by going back to 2008 and taking a look at what Obama said about her then. It's all still true.
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She followed that up with convincing the President to go into Libya.
If you vote for her, go enlist as she will send us to war, thanks to the people who are voting for her today.
If you vote for her, go enlist as she will send us to war, thanks to the people who are voting for her today.
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Not only is this backwards state home of the arcane CLOSED primary, it's also home to a giant CLOSED sign. So glad to see that the glorious governor can vote in the morning and then run off to Washington, D.C. If you don't live in NYC or a handful of counties that actually allow voting in the morning, you CAN'T VOTE. You CAN'T VOTE if you belong to the Working Families party. You CAN'T VOTE if you're listed as an open-minded independent. And now you CAN'T VOTE in the morning. This voter suppression must come to an end. It's time for a revolution above and beyond what Sen. Bernie Sanders is calling for.
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Why shouldn't Democrats choose who runs at the head of the Democratic ticket?
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A closed primary may not be a good idea and the rules should be clearer but a closed primary is absolutely not voter suppression. If you are a not a democrat, you can still vote, just not in the race you want to vote in.
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It's a DEMOCRATIC party primary. How is that lost on you?
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Can't wait for New York To lay some ice on Mr. Bern. While Hillary supporters may not be as vocal about our candidate, we know when to turn out.
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Sweet that you think she's 'your' candidate ... do you own a bank?
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The "our Woman" refers to the NY Times reporter I believe. Like the NY Times article regarding the IA caucuses was titled "Our Man in IA". You must be another bernie burnout. :)
Proud to support Hillary today. Hoping for a decisive, double-digit victory with diverse support for her here in NY so Democrats can start to unite and focus on November!
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First she has to win California....THAT will be the telling race this year.
Nope. She's a pandering fool.
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Or we can start looking seriously at Jill Stein.
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To be honest many people have never heard of Bernie Sanders before this election cycle but what they have heard since, inspires. A voice that speaks for the families that feel left behind and forgotten. Words that resonate of moral and ethical ideals shared for the less fortunate among us. A country where healthcare and education is a right, not a privilage. A nation, where every hard working man and woman, that sets the world standard in quality of living.
Talk of avarice and oligarchy permeating every sector of society supported by the few.
And hope that the tides have turned and the pendulum has swung in favor of the many.
Bernie Sanders for President 2016
Talk of avarice and oligarchy permeating every sector of society supported by the few.
And hope that the tides have turned and the pendulum has swung in favor of the many.
Bernie Sanders for President 2016
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He doesn’t inspire, if you are actually listening. He repels. His so-called “ethics” are just him hitting his one note, his obsession. The way his campaign has morphed into an ugly assault force, the way he waves his arms and talks over Clinton -- the only other candidate who behaved so ugly was Trump. Think about that.
There is a reason not many have heard of him -- in 40+ years. Let him fade back into being a legend in his own mind.
There is a reason not many have heard of him -- in 40+ years. Let him fade back into being a legend in his own mind.
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I heard of the bernster when I was growing up in Vermont, white and poor. According to him I don't exist. Oh the irony bernie, the lies are unraveling.
If Bernie can't even explain his plan to break up the banks, when this is his main issue, how would he fare against the Republican lie machine shouting "socialist"? Idealism is great but we're in a war of survival for progressive principles against the forces of darkness on the far, far right. We need a president with off-the-charts intelligence, tenacity and real plans to promote legislation to address the many varied challenges our nation faces. We'll all suffer if the wrong person is elected president. Hillary Clinton is the clear choice. Please don't let us down New Yorkers!
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Clinton the clear choice for progressives?
Do 10 minutes of research.
To pick one out of dozens of issues, she will do nothing about staggering tuition and crushing debt. Debt for decades.
What does she care, who is worth $30 million?
Do 10 minutes of research.
To pick one out of dozens of issues, she will do nothing about staggering tuition and crushing debt. Debt for decades.
What does she care, who is worth $30 million?
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I've followed the Clintons for their entire political career so please don't underestimate my understanding of them. They have flaws and so does Bernie, but they both earnestly believe that good governance is of great benefit to all Americans. To claim that Hillary does not care about the affordability of tuition and debt says more about you than me.
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It's just too bad that Clinton does not represent progressive values.
Trump referred to September 11th in a speech last night as 7/11.
He claimed he was at Ground Zero that tragic Tuesday morning and lost hundreds of friends.
I challenge Mr. Trump to name 3 people he knew personally that died that horrible day. I challenge him to prove he was at GZ. Three months ago he said he saw the Towers from his building on the upper West Side. The story changes during every event.
Using 9/11 as a political prop when you were nowhere near The Towers should disqualify him as a candidate. This is one subject you simply cannot lie about. This is off limits to many of us. Lie about your education, lie about your net worth BUT please don't lie about 9/11.
He may very well have been at a 7/11. But PLEASE don't treat hallowed ground like your next cup of coffee.
He claimed he was at Ground Zero that tragic Tuesday morning and lost hundreds of friends.
I challenge Mr. Trump to name 3 people he knew personally that died that horrible day. I challenge him to prove he was at GZ. Three months ago he said he saw the Towers from his building on the upper West Side. The story changes during every event.
Using 9/11 as a political prop when you were nowhere near The Towers should disqualify him as a candidate. This is one subject you simply cannot lie about. This is off limits to many of us. Lie about your education, lie about your net worth BUT please don't lie about 9/11.
He may very well have been at a 7/11. But PLEASE don't treat hallowed ground like your next cup of coffee.
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YES !! - my entry: Hope Kasich gets 2nd place - 1 vote - in most of the 27 NY Districts - & Hope Trump held to less than 50% statewide - and less than 50% in most of the 27 Districts, in which case Kasich (currently 2nd ahead of Cruz), can win some proportional votes statewide - and win "X" # of 1 vote per 2nd place in "Y" # of Districts. Stopping Trump from getting all 95 NY delegates is a key - but even a sweep by DT keeps his nomination before the July Convention as challenging - as Kasich can pick up votes in the NE & Cruz gets votes in Mid-North - and California on June 7 will be pivotal. Another set of GOP "super Tuesdays" is 5 states April 26 and 5 states June 7. Bring on a "contested" Convention, Go John Kasich - the Only one in all polls & Real Clear Politics that can beat presumed nominee Hillary Clinton in the Presidential - one would think the "angry" constituents and "far right" GOP'ers would recognize this & not be overly focused on winning the nomination (the battle), only to lose the war in the Presidential.
Barack Obama said he'd traveled to all 57 states in America.
Barack Obama thanked Cleveland after making a speech in Detroit.
Barack Obama made a speech I attended in Europe where he boasted of being able to speak "Austrian"...Austrians speak German.
Barack Obama thanked Cleveland after making a speech in Detroit.
Barack Obama made a speech I attended in Europe where he boasted of being able to speak "Austrian"...Austrians speak German.
I don't know where he was on 9/11. But I do remember him saying shortly after that we should rebuild the towers exactly the same only 20 stories higher, otherwise they win and we lose.
I agreed 100% with him at the time and is one reason I voted for him today. And every time I look at the "Freedom Tower" all is see is a memorial to American weakness and capitulation to Muslim Extremism.
I agreed 100% with him at the time and is one reason I voted for him today. And every time I look at the "Freedom Tower" all is see is a memorial to American weakness and capitulation to Muslim Extremism.
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Well, let's see. One photo with the piece, that of Hilary. Choosing the derisive adverb over the fact ("Sanders spoke derisively"), Comparing Sanders with a big loser, Ms. Teachout. Including a complete irrelevancy regarding who will not be in NY tonight (without saying where Sanders will be or why.) Hmmm. This is straight reporting?
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I concur with most of what you're saying, with the exception of Ms. Teachout being labeled a loser.
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"Our Woman in New York" is the Times in bed with Hillary. Why not just include her name in the banner above the headline showing their partnership with her?
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"Our woman in New York" is the name of this column. It refers to Times reporter Maggie Haberman, not Hillary Clinton.
The first two grafs of this story briefly profile Ms. Haberman.
The first two grafs of this story briefly profile Ms. Haberman.
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insanely misleading. conveniently so
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In spite of Mr. Etim's explanation, the double entendre here, intentional or not, revealed the deep bias of the NY Times — a classic Freudian slip.
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"Hillary Clinton and Donald J. Trump are heavily favored to win ...."
I sincerely hope that if Bernie beats HRC in today the Times will remember those words and report it as the major upset upset it will be. Unfortunately I fully expect that some excuse will be found to minimize the achievement, or you'll trundle out the old tropes about essentially splitting the delegates, or it was only because of the young people, or whatever.
I sincerely hope that if Bernie beats HRC in today the Times will remember those words and report it as the major upset upset it will be. Unfortunately I fully expect that some excuse will be found to minimize the achievement, or you'll trundle out the old tropes about essentially splitting the delegates, or it was only because of the young people, or whatever.
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What huge lead does Hillary have MSM - Corporate News? Bernie is LEADING in Upstate New York polls --- LEADING with 53 to 38% of Latino voters and turning out 20,000 to 40,000 crowds all over Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx vs Hillary is lucky to have 300 at an event... there have been events that drew 100 for HRC. The bigger question with New York is WILL THERE BE MORE ELECTION FRAUD? And will New York's 3.2 million registered "Independents" be allowed to cast a vote? -- Many NY voters feel it was unfair to expect them to register party-affiliation by Oct. 2015, BECAUSE the #DNC delayed the start of #DemDebates 60 days after GOP debates started and put them on CABLE and on for instance the last Saturday night of shopping before Christmas..... BAM. Disenfranchised voters, such a normally Republican tactic by the Corporate-Democrat, who will do anything to suppress young and new voters who favor Bernie Sanders by 80% because they know Hillary Clinton represents endless-war and global-profiteering.. after all, she's the Sec of State who FOUGHT BACK against raising minimum wage from 31 cents an hour to 67 cents an hour in Haiti!
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God, I hope Hillary wins the Dem primary in a crushing landslide. After Bernie attacked the Cloaoney fundraiser (which raised money to elect CONGRESSIONAL Democrats and dishonestly told his supporters that it was a rich people's fundraiser for Hillary (it wasn't, but she attended to help sell tickets) - no one should be deceived by Sanders' dishonesty anymore. He needs to go, pronto.
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What Sanders did was agree with Clooney's own criticisms of the event. That was reported everywhere.
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I wish the media would have shown the full interview. Again the media only shows part of the story to increase clicks and viewership. Clooney stated it was for the DNC and Hillary to raise money for down ticket democratic candidates. Candidates needed to support liberal/progressive/democratic initiatives, reforms and legislation. Without this support no democratic president will be able to implement their promises. Think about Obama and the challenges he has encountered. STOP this nonsense. These fundraisers are to assist other progressives in their fight to overcome barriers and inequality. Something democrats do for each other. Something Sanders has not done except for the 3 he has mentioned this past month in his email to supporters.
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Also, don't kid yourself. Some of that money was going to Hillary's campaign. There is no way it was all going to congressional candidates.
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Mr. Sanders takes no money from corporations or Wall Street while Ms. Clinton not only has a SuperPac but also has been paid large sums for speeches to Wall Street firms, refusing to release transcripts. It's hence obvious that only Mr. Sanders will press for changes that will close corporate and Wall Street tax loopholes that will bring many billions of dollars back to the treasury. These large sums of money will in turn fund much that will benefit all of us. The same reasoning applies to war. Ms. Clinton is a hawk and is far more likely to entangle us in costly military action that in the end proves ineffective or worse. These are just highlights. The choice here is clear. Mr. Sanders is the best presidential candidate we have seen in a very long time.
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Perhaps Senator Sanders does not take "BIG" money but he does take BIG gifts from BIG donors, including Ben and Jerry. According to today's Guardian, "The co-founders (Ben and Jerry) were released in time to host a Monday night event at George Washington University, where they gave students free ice cream and spoke to them about politics, including their support for Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders, who inspired a limited edition Ben & Jerry’s ice cream flavor: Bernie’s Yearning." Free concerts by BIG names, five-minute television commercials by Spike Lee. THOSE are BIG money folks and it barely scratches the surface of "donations". Senator Sanders is a non-BIG-donor fraud.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/ben-and-jerry-arrested-us...
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/19/ben-and-jerry-arrested-us...
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That's the old saw that Sanders keeps trotting out, he only gets "small" donations from "real" people. Has anyone checked to see if a group like the RNC is sending multiple, small donations to Sanders? Has anyone checked how the NRA is donating to him, seeing as they dictated his gun stance to him - something he had to bow to to keep his seat in Vermont. This constant drumbeat of Sanders is free of corporate influence is a crock, and we know it - just go see who his donors really are, because someone with deep pockets paid for the disgusting large amount of TV ads in NY in the last 2 weeks - those were never financed by small donations from "real" people. Hey, we are New Yorkers, not Californians - we don't run from lies, we don't fall for fantasy campaigns, and we don't back down from marketing ploys like "27 dollars" - what a joke!
Why then has his career in Congress, where laws are made, been so lackluster ?
Hope Kasich gets 2nd place - 1 vote - in most of the 27 NY Districts - & Hope Trump held to less than 50% statewide - and less than 50% in most of the 27 Districts, in which case Kasich (currently 2nd ahead of Cruz), can win some proportional votes statewide - and win "X" # of 1 vote per 2nd place in "Y" # of Districts. Stopping Trump from getting all 95 NY delegates is a key - but even a sweep by DT keeps his nomination before the July Convention as challenging - as Kasich can pick up votes in the NE & Cruz gets votes in Mid-North - and California on June 7 will be pivotal. Another set of GOP "super Tuesdays" is 5 states April 26 and 5 states June 7. Bring on a "contested" Convention, Go John Kasich - the Only one in all polls & Real Clear Politics that can beat presumed nominee Hillary Clinton in the Presidential - one would think the "angry" constituents and "far right" GOP'ers would recognize this & not be overly focused on winning the nomination (the battle), only to lose the war in the Presidential.
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If Trump loses, nominee is Cruz. Learn about him.
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Bernie, Bernie, Bernie...13% Federal Tax Rate? Really? On your income in Denmark you'd be paying a 55% Tax Rate - you want Danish type benefits than everyone has to pony up Danish taxes!
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All you Sanders supporters, keep it up and you will assure the next president is either Trump or Cruz. The GOP machine will brand Sanders as a socialist in the general election and he will become a footnote in history. Your predecessors gave us Nixon in 1968 by withholding their vote for Humphrey and George Bush in 2000 by voting for Nader. How naive can you be!
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You don't like Sanders, fine. But don't attack his supporters. We have as much of a right to our preference as you.
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Not naive - just not jaded and complacent like you.
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The Dem party should have given us a better candidate than Clinton then, instead of attempting to shut out any other worthy potential contenders for the past 8 years. I can't and won't vote for her. I'm an Independent and i couldn't care less about your party. If she loses the fault lies with your own party, not the voters who, for excellent reasons, can't pull that lever.
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The most important day in the history of the 2016 US presidential campaign. NY is the birth place for Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders and a possible game changer for both. Today Donald Trump if he wins NY will become the only Republican candidate to be potentially able to mathematically get to the 1237 required for nomination of his party. For Sanders he needs NY really badly to demonstrate that he can defeat the real liberal democratic establishment (both the governor of NY and mayor of NY city have endorsed his rival HRC) and to have a chance to win the nomination of his party. Bernie moved to Vermont and Hillary moved to NY. Unclear why Sanders moved out of NY. Very clear why Hillary moved. The same reason why a bank robber when caught while robbing when asked by the press, why you robbed the bank? His response was "Thats where the money is" Of course this was before the time, banks needed the bailouts. NY has been extremely generous to Hillary financially so far and kind to elect her to the senate. Hope today is the day of reckoning when their generosity will see a limit and reassessment and Sanders will find a resurrection to become the nominee against all odds and all expectation, a stunning NY upset to the front runner of the democratic party. I take the liberty of endorsing 2 candidates who the editorial board of the NY times did not endorse. Bernie for the Democratic nomination and Donald for the Republican nomination. As an independent I could vote for either.
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Last poll I read said that Sanders had cut Hillary's lead down to 6 points. And that was three days ago.
C'mon NY state, Bernie is what this country needs so NYC is can show that business can be honorable and humane.
I know us Oregonians are going strong for Sanders, I know you can too!
Bernie 2016 really starts in the great state of New York!
C'mon NY state, Bernie is what this country needs so NYC is can show that business can be honorable and humane.
I know us Oregonians are going strong for Sanders, I know you can too!
Bernie 2016 really starts in the great state of New York!
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That poll was two weeks ago. Read the fine print.
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It's critical to the future of this country that, whoever wins the Democratic primary, all left-leaning voters unite behind this candidate. I think that Hillary supporters would get behind Bernie, but I'm afraid that many Bernie supporters have become so (dare I say?) radicalized that they will once again drop out of the pollitical scene and do serious damage to their own future.
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It is incumbent on everyone who loves the country to help "heal the Bern" if Clinton is the nominee. If you support Sander's agenda then you support Clinton's agenda. They are nearly identical at the core. And the polar opposite of any of the Republicans.
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"They are nearly identical at the core."
No, they are not. Hillary says that during this primary, but it is a transparent lie.
No, they are not. Hillary says that during this primary, but it is a transparent lie.
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I think they will start looking seriously at Jill Stein. It's clear a third party is needed.
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Infuriating. Best Haberman can do is compare Sanders (because she HAS to mention him, it seems) run to Teachout? Sometimes I wonder if its even ethical for a newspaper to basically call a primary before its happened - very similar seeming to speculative trading.. how many people go in a direction just because someone else tells them that will be the winning side? How many times have these polls been drastically wrong in the last few months?
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"Our woman in NY" lost all credibility for me during the live chat of the April 14 Brooklyn debate.
Clinton was interrupting Sanders, going overlong, the moderators were telling her she was overtime, and there was no mention.
But at 10:54 we got a note that Sanders was "talking over Dana Bash as if she's not there." No mention that Clinton had done exactly that, and more.
Instead, a mention at 10:54 that Clinton was "calling for uniting the party."
I almost fell off my chair when I saw that. I realized how much power this coverage has, how easily it can be slanted.
Look for yourself.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/democratic-debate-cnn-april-2016/
Clinton was interrupting Sanders, going overlong, the moderators were telling her she was overtime, and there was no mention.
But at 10:54 we got a note that Sanders was "talking over Dana Bash as if she's not there." No mention that Clinton had done exactly that, and more.
Instead, a mention at 10:54 that Clinton was "calling for uniting the party."
I almost fell off my chair when I saw that. I realized how much power this coverage has, how easily it can be slanted.
Look for yourself.
http://www.nytimes.com/live/democratic-debate-cnn-april-2016/
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No doubt. She's shilling for Hillary big time. Should be removed from her post.
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Our woman? She moves here less than a year before running for congress and all of a sudden she's ours. Please. All this maneuvering is why people don't like nor trust politicians and the support mechanisms behind them - this included.
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I changed my registration from Democratic to Independent when Clinton carpetbagged the state (i was a resident then) and never looked back. What an insult to the millions of voters and potential Democratic candidates in the state, like she was the best they could do. I've always hated the Republican party but i've come to loathe the Democratic party with a richness and depth i would have never though possible half a decade ago. Sanders is the only way the Dems get a vote from me, even if i have to write him in in the general.
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The politico-financial elite has no nation, much less a "home state." Hillary Clinton may well win today, but it will be in no small part due to the efforts of the Times and other media outlets to paper over her shortcomings and denigrate her rival.
Come what may, I will support the democrats in the primary, but I'm embarrassed that I financially supported the NYT. (No longer - I've desubscribed.) There are admirable reporters at the Times, but there are quite a few journalistic outlets out there that have shown more general institutional integrity in the past 6 months. The citizenry has the right to serious interrogation of every candidate; instead, we've been lead by the nose to Hillary by some of our most trusted institutions. For shame.
Come what may, I will support the democrats in the primary, but I'm embarrassed that I financially supported the NYT. (No longer - I've desubscribed.) There are admirable reporters at the Times, but there are quite a few journalistic outlets out there that have shown more general institutional integrity in the past 6 months. The citizenry has the right to serious interrogation of every candidate; instead, we've been lead by the nose to Hillary by some of our most trusted institutions. For shame.
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Being elected TWICE as a NY senator to Washington, DC does indeed qualify as being a New Yorker especially since she moved to NY after leaving the White House many years ago. NY is her home.
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If Hillary is unable to win NY by a huge number, it will further substantiate her lack of appeal outside the South. In '08, she beat Obama by 17 points and lost the race. This is a closed primary, so she does not have to face independents who vote heavily for Bernie and who matter most in the Presidential election.
Hillary's poll numbers have been sliding downhill since Bernie entered the race. Many national polls show them in a dead heat amongst Democrats and every poll shows Bernie beating the potential Republican nominee by a larger margin than Hillary. That is a fact.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for the status quo. A vote for Bernie is a vote for moving forward.
Hillary's poll numbers have been sliding downhill since Bernie entered the race. Many national polls show them in a dead heat amongst Democrats and every poll shows Bernie beating the potential Republican nominee by a larger margin than Hillary. That is a fact.
A vote for Hillary is a vote for the status quo. A vote for Bernie is a vote for moving forward.
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A win is a win! President Obama slogged through until June.
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Iowa, Nevada, Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Massachusetts, Arizona, American Samoa.
Polls of the general election are not predictive at this point. This has been studied into the ground by political scientists. That, too, is a fact.
Polls of the general election are not predictive at this point. This has been studied into the ground by political scientists. That, too, is a fact.
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Yep. I fully expect Clinton to win NY as it's a closed primary, and due to the voter registration rules and voodoo. But those independents and young voters will most likely come back to bite in November. If they feel it's even worth their while to vote.
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May the best woman win!! Go Hillary.
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Elizabeth Warren is not running.
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I feel like it would be much better to say "May the best candidate win!! Go Hillary", stressing that she is as qualified or more qualified to be President than any of the other candidates, regardless of sex. It always rubs me the wrong way when gender is brought into something that at its base should have nothing to do with gender. I always wonder if that feeling of mine is because I am male though, and then I wonder if I would say the same thing if someone said "May the best man win!! Go Bernie" and the sad truth is, there's a chance that I'd just see it as an endorsement for Bernie and any claims about that comment being sexist I'd shrug off as creating mountains out of mole hills.
I am excited to see the day we have a woman as President, though.
I am excited to see the day we have a woman as President, though.
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May the best woman for the job of President of the USA win? Sounds like you should be a Jill Stein supporter as she is far and away the best female candidate for President.
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In introducing Ms Haberman and mentioning her being published in The Daily News at age 7, the NYT ought to level with readers and note that her dad was by then a major fixture in Gotham City journalism. Hard to believe that that is unrelated to her having broken into print at such a young age. Am I crazy, or has the NYT really lost the plot here? No wonder it supports Hillary Clinton with such ardor.
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Yes, the format is truly bizarre (given the headline which directs readers to this article) and not very helpful on voting day. Something less choppy, less insiderish, more factual, and more succinct would be most welcome. Especially since this is basically the same article that was posted earlier this week. Which begs the question, what is happening now (which is why I clicked on this article to begin with)?
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I agree. In recent weeks it sometimes seems like the NYT has been taken over by Rupert Murdoch.
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It shows you that the self-entitled support one another.
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Is this article a joke? Mrs. Clinton is NOT "heavily" favored. She's expected to get a tad more than half the vote; given the pollsters' margin of error the contest is pretty much too close to call. It would, therefore, come as no surprise if Bernie beat her, as he has by landslide margins in recent contests.
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Those landslide margins were in caucuses, correct? Not in primaries. Sometimes it seems that people "feeling the bern" exaggerate.
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hate to break it to you but... the odds are pretty slim
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-y...
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-y...
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FiveThirtyEight puts her chances of winning at ~99%, with a projected winning margin of nearly 15 +- 5 points. That sounds pretty heavily favored to me.
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It is nice to have the New York primaries mean something this election cycle. I am looking forward to Ted Cruz giving the non-victory, victory speech he bought from Marco Rubio after he finishes with less than 20% of the vote. I am also looking forward to seeing if not knowing the subways no longer take tokens is more costly to a campaign than having to swipe the Metro Card five times because I am in the city a lot and usually need at least three swipes myself.
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That "five swipes is normal" story was unreal. I never need more than one. Five? Play thart in your head, and see if that sounds normal. That means that at busy stations most people are queuing as the turnstiles reject people over and over.
Do you see that? No, you don't.
Do you see that? No, you don't.
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John, I see that all the time. I'm a native and lifetime New Yorker and it happens to me occasionally. Spend some time in midtown and Times Square where there are throngs of tourists in the subway stations futilely swiping over and over again and then moving to another turnstile which makes matters worse and they just keep swiping.
It's always important to remember that just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
It's always important to remember that just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
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Does New York still embody the hopes and dreams that made it a great state, or has it become just a bigger conservative stronghold? We'll see.
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