Why the ‘Gilmore Girls’ Fandom Lives On

Jul 13, 2015 · 29 comments
Steven (NY)
Never saw an episode until Netflix. At the end of season 1 and completely hooked. I felt a little silly at first, but I should have known that I wasn't alone. Still, don't expect to become a Brony anytime soon!
Karen Healy (Buffalo, N.Y.)
My daughter and I watched the show together every week through her middle and high school years, It was sometimes the only thing we could agree on and enjoy with each other.

When the show ended with Rory going off into the wide world my daughter was graduating from high school and going off into the wide world herself. I cried for about a solid week.

Young women may remember the show through their connection with Rory. I know my bookish and shy daughter found in her a similarly bookish and socially awkward soul mate. For me it was watching Lorelei relentlessly trying and often failing at being a mother and a daughter herself.

That said Emily was my favorite character and Edward Hermann was a gift. It was an under rated gem at the time, probably because it was for "girls". Nice that its finding a second fan base.
Susan Orlins (Washington, DC)
Some of my best childhood memories include watching "Father Knows Best" with my family. Some of my favorite memories of my three daughters' childhoods are curling up on the sofa together, eating ice cream and watching Gilmore Girls.

What resonated most with me was the role reversal between Lorelai and Rory. My daughters would similarly try to keep my behavior in check.
Concerned Citizen (Anywheresville)
Frankly, I still don't get it. I think I watched maybe 2 episodes when it was on, and thought it was totally inane -- about rich people in some isolated rich Connecticut bedroom community. In fact, very much like a soap opera.
cpm (Oak Park, IL)
One of the exceedingly rare TV series I've watched from debut to finale. When it began, its first half hour directly competed against NBC's Friends which still dominated the ratings despite losing some steam. Watched its first run on The WB/CW because of my familiarity with Lauren Graham and was hooked immediately. Wonder how many fans remember that the pilot episode opened to "There She Goes" by The La's. Or the context of the hilarious quote "Jumping cattle hockey!"
MTF Tobin (Manhattanville, NY)
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I watched "Gilmore Girls" for a few seasons, at first primarily because of Lauren Graham. A smart (Ivy-educated) actor delivering difficult, smart lines with pop-culture references ... and looking so expressive and beautiful?

Of course like anyone else, I was drawn in by the coworkers and townspeople. Melissa McCarthy topped the list; but even Stars Hollow was a character in the show.

And then the great Edward Herrmann, RIP.

I think what I enjoyed most were any scenes or dialog that illuminated Lorelai's pre-Rory life. It doesn't have to be the actual flashback scene of Lorelai and Christopher making sure her parents weren't coming home for a while; but anything that told us what Lorelai's life was like when she had to make it somewhat on her own.

I think I stopped in part when it was clear that parental funds were always going to be available; that every guy came back to her; the Inn was a success: I felt I could wish her well and be on my way.

My one regret was that Alexis Bledel couldn't deliver snappy lines too well. Paris was played by a superior actress. Lane was wonderful!

I can picture it being fun fodder for a podcast or web groups. I hope everyone enjoys it.

I've thought of 2 shows fans may like. "Joan of Arcadia" has family life, with a great supporting cast that form a community. And "Psych" has the fast dialog with pop-culture references galore; plus a fantastic woman Chief of Police. Just don't watch the musical episode, or anything after that!
Ed Burke (Long Island, NY)
TV shows should never become a substitute for real life. That men obsess over such nonsense is truly pathetic, they desperately need a life. God must be missing from their lives and this is an attempt to fill that gaping hole in them.
tom (bpston)
God is missing from everyone's life; it's just that some of us haven't found out yet.
Neal (Arizona)
Lighten up. Your assumption that the comedy podcast these two young men are producing is entertainment. Your assumption that they need to find a God to whom they can devote all of their time is at least as tiresome as TV re-runs.
Faron Stalker (San Francisco, CA)
I still can't quite explain why I feel like there is a hole in my heart ever since I finished binge watching Gilmore Girls on Netflix a few weeks ago. It has a way of becoming a part of you. Usually I love books, movies, and TV shows when I can see myself and my friends and family in the other characters, but this was hard to do with Gilmore Girls. They ARE just slightly too funny, too smart, too quick, and too beautiful. Instead, I found myself dreaming--escaping to the perfect land of Stars Hollow and dreaming that I could be as effortlessly intelligent as Rory or as quick-witted as Lorelai. And I can't deny that the escape the show offered me was extremely helpful in getting over a rough break up. I can't justify started the series all over again so soon after finishing it, especially with all that Orange is the New Black to catch up on, but I am glad to know that I can listen to this podcast to get a little bit of Gilmore back in my daily life!

As a side note, isn't it a shame that The New York Times turned down Rory Gilmore when she applied for a highly sought after fellowship after graduating from Yale?!
SM (NYC)
Look up the Bechdel test. This show passes it, in spades.
Joanna.Sprite (Paris)
Turns out there is another one of you guys. Maybe you need to add him to the podcast group.
This is really well-written. Congrats on coming out of the Gilmore closet. Haha!
https://theironicman.wordpress.com/2015/07/15/confessions-of-a-gilmore-guy/

Gilmore Girls forever. Boys too.
C Wolfe (Bloomington IN)
So far none of the comments focus on the mother-daughter relationship. My daughter was born in 1997, and I'm completely embarrassed to say that while not a devoted fan, seeing a few episodes made me think about how I wanted to relate to my own daughter. I'm not a very successful person in material terms, have failed terribly at most forms of obedience, but have a great relationship with my daughter—who is actually like Rory in a lot of ways. The communication and love between the Gilmore Girls encouraged me to be honest with my daughter, to always treat her as a potentially independent person, and to forgive myself for my mistakes.

I'm not saying that without those few episodes, I would've been a different mother. I'm just saying that the show really did help me articulate my role, and feel happy about being a mother at a time when motherhood has become something you're supposed to perform with a sort of grudging overzealousness, half-ashamed at the toll it takes on your career. How many shows have taken their joy from the love between a mother and a daughter?
QweenB (Australia)
It's great to see that Gilmore Girls still holds a place in the hearts of so many. The recent addition to Netflix and the reunion panel has also seen a rebirth of the once popular gilmoregirls.org forums as fans have returned to show their love and dedication to a show they find truly irreplaceable. Its wonderful to see that the show still holds such an important place in the hearts of the actors also (I'm looking at you Scott Patterson) and I think anyone who loves the show enough to pay attention to media such as this would love to see it back on our screens in some form.
RealFan (US)
I don’t think I will ever love a show more obsessively in my lifetime than I love Gilmore Girls. Likewise, I have never been, and will never be, so captivated by a fictional character moreso than I am by Lorelai Gilmore. While realistically flawed, she is intelligent, independent, interesting, loving, charming, funny, and played to perfection by the amazing Lauren Graham. That being said, I find it surprising and disappointing that a podcast dedicated to this show could spend such little time talking about this character and this actress. When they do give her more than a few minutes of their attention, it is usually to point out her mistakes, but they don't dig deeper into her complicated past to try to explain where her behaviors are stemming from. They write her off an an anti-hero and move on. Lorelai is not evil - she is an incredible character and deserves to be discussed for more than a few minutes per episode. And while these guys often declare in print their love for the show, there have been some episodes of this podcast where they are so overly critical of such minor things that I start to question whether they even like the show at all.

Also, as a longtime fan since the pilot originally aired, I can say with certainty that Gilmore Girls fans have been very content with NOT having a label, especially one like "Gillys." No, thank you.
Gilly (Columbia, mo)
I am also a long time fan of The Gilmore Girls and now an enthusiastic fan of The Gilmore Guys!

The popularity of this podcast is a fantastic counterpoint to those that think streaming content and social media create more isolation than community. This is most obviously demonstrated at the live shows where hundreds of people are getting together to discuss and celebrate a common interest,. But Kevin and Demi's friendship, facilitated by social media, is the heart of the podcast.
GilmoreGirlsFan (USA)
I think it's a little short-sighted to claim that a podcast that has only been on the air for less than a year is responsible for a 15 year old loyal, rabid fandom. The Gilmore Girls fans have been out and proud since the show began in 2000 and have never gone away. The advent of Netflix created an entire new generation of fans, but this podcast did not rekindle an already very active fan base.

While I know this podcast has it's own vocal listeners, I think old school fans are tired of being told that these two people (one of whom has never even seen the show... and one who seems to barely tolerate it, whether or not he touts himself as a "superfan") are the saviors of a thriving fandom. I get that they have connections in the entertainment industry that so many of us will never have. I've had a Gilmore Girls-related blog for almost 4 years. Would I have loved to be given the opportunity to interview the cast members firsthand at the ATX reunion? YES! But unfortunately, I don't have those connections so I was forced to pay for my ticket and wait in long lines in the blistering heat just like any other fan.

It's nice that Gilmore Girls has been in the spotlight more recently, but it's a little offensive to the fans that have been around forever to be constantly told that their fandom was somehow discovered and nurtured by two people who just kind of arrived on the scene less than a year ago.

We've been here the entire time, Gilmore Guys. Thanks for joining us!
SAlysse (North Carolina)
"We've been here the entire time, Gilmore Guys. Thanks for joining us!"

Very well said.
Liz (Memphis)
To clarify,
They are two 25 year old guys who live in L.A., but they aren't D-list celebrities with "connections." The connections they have are entirely due to the success of their podcast. I subscribed within the first week of it being out, and I remember for the longest time being one of maybe 100 people listening. It's almost as if you're bitter that your blog wasn't as successful. Your argument is also in direct relation to the title of the article. The "Gilmore Guys" didn't write the article, and yet you want to criticize them.
Simplify (Boston)
Sorry, but they obviously are doing more for fandom than anyone else - meaning, having a large audience and physically brining them together. No one thinks fans didn't exist, but this show has brought a lot of them together.
Yes, they were lucky to line up with the zeitgeist, but they are also talented performers who moved to LA to pursue careers in the entertainment industry. They actually earned their connections by creating a good quality show. They are not even the first Gilmore Girls podcast, but they are the ones that caught on.
The most enjoyable part of their show to me is that the tone is sincere, fun and welcoming. They invite fans and newcomers to join them and don't take themselves too seriously. It bums me out that people begrudge these guys their success.
Rigel (Arizona)
Very nice analysis. I got into Gilmore Girls a couple months ago thanks to it being on Netflix. It took me a few episodes to catch on, but after that I was hooked. I'm not ashamed to admit there have been weekend days where I watch eight, even nine, episodes of Gilmore Girls. I've now recently gotten my family interested in it too.
I think I only have a few episodes left and I'm not quite sure what my emotional state will be like when I finish.
I hadn't heard about that podcast, so I'll have to start listening - any extra GG material is always much appreciated.
ang (Philadelphia)
One thing I will always love and respect about Gilmore Girls is the character of Sookie (Melissa McCarthy playing a talented chef). One of her first plot lines was a very nice man having a crush on her, and over the full series while they dated, married and started a family she continued to work and (IIRC) went into business with Lorelei. When so many of McCarthy's current roles seem to have an element of "she's funny because she's fat" her body was never an issue and definitely not played for laughs. I'm not sure I can point to any other overweight character on TV and say the same.
dobes (<br/>)
I despised the show when it was on, mainly because of Lorelai's inane belief that she could do any mean thing to anyone and then mug her way out of it. I stopped watching early on.

Returned to it on Netflix earlier this year, binge-watched, and fell in love. Still had no use for Lorelai, but loved the town, loved Rory, loved Emily and sympathized with her for having such a ditzy daughter. Found myself hoping against hope Lorelai would grow up, so I could like her too. Was really, really sad when it was over - until I found Parenthood.
Amanda (Missoula, MT)
I love the "Gilmore Girls," having happened upon it on ABC Family a few years ago. I always thought of it as a guilty pleasure, until the past year or so. The "Gilmore Guys" podcast is now the highlight of my week--Kevin and Demi are so delightful--so excited for them for all of their success.
Sarah Collins (Los Angeles, CA)
I, the slowest binge-watcher ever, have spent the past nine months poring over the show and now have about eight episodes left. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do when it's over. I love Gilmore Girls more than I've ever loved any other series.
Cay (Brooklyn)
I think that people underestimate the power and rarity of a show that is about two fully developed female characters who are smart, funny, normal humans. Honestly, how many of those have actually ever made it on TV? And even fewer have made it as an hour-long drama, not a sitcom. I wish that television execs would take note of the strong emotional connection between the show and the audience that is clearly made - I would think that capitalizing on that and developing similar shows would absolutely be lucrative. Rewatching Gilmore Girls has been a very welcome break from watching women continually be raped on Game of Thrones or the myriad TV shows where a woman only exists as a costar and, even then, only as a romantic plot point for one of the leads.
SK (Brunswick, ME)
The Gilmore Girls fandom lives on because the show features strong leads who are funnier, more dynamic, and more relatable for many girls and women than those in any other show I can think of on television. Furthermore, the side characters are given appropriate attention and time - viewers feel the love for Michel and Babette as well as Kirk and Zack. Ultimately, there will never be another GG...not for me anyway. It is endlessly watchable, amazingly quotable, and a pure, comfortable delight. Returning to Stars Hollow really does feel like coming home, especially at the end of a long or lonely day.
TVAddict (USA)
As an original fan of the show since October 2000, I'm so glad that the Gilmore Girls fandom is still thriving. I am one of the many devoted fans who thinks about the show every day, and constantly quotes it and relates it to the daily goings on of life. The Gilmore Guys podcast is fine for listeners who want a casual discussion about Gilmore Girls interspersed with random jokes and impressions and off-topic tangents. But this particular podcast doesn’t satisfy the intellectual needs of ALL Gilmore Girls' fans. Some of us would love a podcast that delves into deeper, more intelligent analysis about the characters and storylines, as the show deserves. Amy Sherman-Palladino created a brilliant world for us to enjoy, and the guys have missed many opportunities for what could have been incredibly profound discussions over the past 4 seasons of episodes they've reviewed. There are so many layers to explore of this incredible show, and this podcast unfortunately just skims the surface. Kevin claims to have this infinite love for the show (despite giving up on it after season 6), but I wish that love would come out in the podcast more with a greater appreciation for and focus on the amazing parts instead the flaws. For a podcast that is getting so much attention and possibly even making these guys some money for just talking about the show, I wish their discussions were a little more prolific and worthy of being associated with the extraordinary world of Gilmore Girls.
SAlysse (North Carolina)
While I listen to the Gilmore Guys podcast and usually enjoy it very much, they are not the reason that the Gilmore Girls fandom "lives on." Gilmore Girls is the brainchild of the absolutely brilliant and spectacular Amy Sherman-Palladino whose writing is unparalleled. The cast is lead by the sensationally talented and stunning Lauren Graham, whose Lorelai Gilmore has become the spirit animal of many women (and heartthrob of many men and probably women) over the last 15yrs. It's the heart, wish-fulfillment, talent, comedy, fantasy, and yes, reality of this show that keep the current fans coming back and that will forever enthrall new fans. You have to be intelligent to fully understand the show, and you have to have a true sense of humor (and not someone wrapped up in all the political correctness we as a society seem so focused on) in order to understand why this show has and will continue to stand the test of time. Of course the show had faults, it was a television show. Not every show is going to fulfill every fantasy that the audience has, because the fans are not in the creator's head. No one in the world except Amy herself could ever properly explain why Lorelai went to Christopher on that fateful night, and that's okay. Maybe someday we'll understand where she was planning to go with that. But if not, I'm a forever fan, because of the show itself and the talented folks involved in it. Not because of two young men who are also just fans who like to talk about the show.