How many illegal immigrants does Trump employ at his golf courses, resorts, hotels, casinos and other businesses? And why does he hire them? Does he benefit from cheap labor while complaining about the sources he himself is illegally exploiting in the name of "free-market" profiteering?
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What is the percentage of golfers in that area? I was under the impression that city owned land was to be used for the general populace.
A decade or so ago another organization tried to usurp the land adjoining the Central RR Ferry House for a golf course. A local group organized against it and after 10 or so years Liberty State Park was created in lieu of that Golf Course. Kudos for those who fought and won for the general populace of Hudson County.
A decade or so ago another organization tried to usurp the land adjoining the Central RR Ferry House for a golf course. A local group organized against it and after 10 or so years Liberty State Park was created in lieu of that Golf Course. Kudos for those who fought and won for the general populace of Hudson County.
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Ms. Bellafante is one of the worst things that ever happened to the New York section. In any event, everyone is taking what Trump said, blowing it out of proportion or adding lies to it, and then using it against him to puff up the liberal candidates. Look, you're allowed to have an opinion and you should not be attacked for it. Besides, try holding a mirror up to Hillary. Oh, nevermind, this is the New York Times and they are in a political race.
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Who wants to ask him? I'd think the people of New York would want to ask him. I don't share Trump's politics, but I'm not sure why anyone cares what his political opinions are. If his organization is a good city contractor and a good developer, more power to them.
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Typical NYT and media in general. Attack and attempt to neutralize any conceivable threat to the agenda. No matter the candidate, the left will use whatever means necessary to silence any view that opposes the ultra liberal thinking. And most unfortunately, the NYT is clearly a tool of the far left.
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This should be a city park, not a golf course.
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Trump was exactly right about women being raped while trying to cross the borders. He got his information directly from Border Control Officers. Why can't he speak the truth because Hispanic groups don't want him to. And then those rapist come into our country. They jails and prisons are full of illegal Mexican criminals and being from California I know it to be true. The least they could do after coming here illegally is not break any more laws.
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What are the border patrol officers doing that we're not being told?
The jails are full because they're privately owned and operated and
want money. Empty prisons don't get money. Profiling works really well and no one is able to stop that either. The least you could do is open your eyes and see what's happening but it's not something you want to do.
I'm not Hispanic. I don't live in the bliss of hatred and ignorance.
Trump is saying what he wants. No one is stopping him. That's
why he's standing behind his statements. It's also why, at least for now,
the rest of the more sane pack of GOP candidates continue to distance
themselves from the nutcase.
I'm cognizant my statements won't reach through the darkness of ignorance. That's something Trump does well except he doesn't want to reach through ignorance, he uses it to his best advantage. Congrats, you're on his hook.
The jails are full because they're privately owned and operated and
want money. Empty prisons don't get money. Profiling works really well and no one is able to stop that either. The least you could do is open your eyes and see what's happening but it's not something you want to do.
I'm not Hispanic. I don't live in the bliss of hatred and ignorance.
Trump is saying what he wants. No one is stopping him. That's
why he's standing behind his statements. It's also why, at least for now,
the rest of the more sane pack of GOP candidates continue to distance
themselves from the nutcase.
I'm cognizant my statements won't reach through the darkness of ignorance. That's something Trump does well except he doesn't want to reach through ignorance, he uses it to his best advantage. Congrats, you're on his hook.
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Yes. women were raped while trying to cross the borders. Raped by the very Border Control Officers you speak of.
Trump can say whatever he wants, truth or lie, and he does, whether or not Hispanic groups want him to.
Trump can say whatever he wants, truth or lie, and he does, whether or not Hispanic groups want him to.
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Trump is a buffoon, but he has managed some projects the city was unable to, such as rebuilding the Wollman skating rink in Central Park. It's a rink where I skated as a teenager and I was greatly saddened, when it fell into such disrepair, that the city couldn't fix it. To his credit Donald Trump did. That doesn't mean I like him or would ever want him as president. He could perhaps be a worthy replacement for Staten Island Congressman Michael Grimm.
Trump is the poster boy for the expression "born on third and thinks he hit a triple". The only easier way to make a fortune in this country than inheriting New York City real estate is by printing it. Multiple bankruptcies, multiple marriages, and yet defended by the same people who are quick to jump on the slightest hint of indiscretion by those they oppose. His appeal is that of the neighborhood bully.
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$127 million for a golf course? A public one? How many swimming pools, basketball and tennis courts, children's playgrounds, jogging paths, etc., could that sum have made possible? Oh, you say, but the golfers will pay greens fees to use the course. And just how many years do you estimate it will take to recoup that investment?
Who approved this project? And why wasn't there a huge outcry when it was approved. Regardless of which private developer got the contract?
[P.S. "camisole to a person with frostbite"; ""landing at a monastery only to be surprised by it's quiet"? As sometimes appeared in the New Yorker, Block That Metaphor]
Who approved this project? And why wasn't there a huge outcry when it was approved. Regardless of which private developer got the contract?
[P.S. "camisole to a person with frostbite"; ""landing at a monastery only to be surprised by it's quiet"? As sometimes appeared in the New Yorker, Block That Metaphor]
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This is long on sarcasm and anger and very short on facts. It's not that the Donald is a saint, or that he behaves appropriately or civilly, or that he is not running an abhorrent campaign. It's just that there were no facts about this deal for the golf course presented, no way to evaluate whether the city got any value out of it, no idea of who will use it etc. When trashing a deal made by the city and Bloomberg, please come up with some facts about it. Then, maybe, the article might have been worth the space that it took up in the Times and the time it took to read it. Newspapers are just too short on facts since the advent of the internet and the rush for content...any content.
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I agree with you. It has seemed more and more that the NY Times exists primarily for the purpose of abusing Republicans and no facts are needed.
Not to say that I am a fan of Trump or of Republicans myself. But, like you, I do need some facts before evaluating something.
Not to say that I am a fan of Trump or of Republicans myself. But, like you, I do need some facts before evaluating something.
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What in the world kind of additional facts do you folks need to recognize this as a very questionable use of public funds for private purposes ?
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I am hoping that this is a joke. They haven't alleged any criminality or malfeasance. The only reason this seems to be a story is because of Donald Trump and his presidential "campaign." People are entitled to their beliefs and even though I also don't share his politics, I don't understand why people are taking such offense to what he has said. We have speech vigilantes in this country now who demand that you agree with them 100% of the time.
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Ginia scores a " hole in one"! I've already cancelled my Tee Time and our outing to Arthur Ave for dinner. NYC- get Trumps' name off your golf course, at any cost! I believe the golfers and the public will endorse this move.
John P
John P
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I have been meaning to make this observation about Donald Trump and the theme of this column is as good a time as any. It's about Donald Trump's reprehensible behavior towards Penn Jillette when Mr. Jillette was a contestant on the All-Star Celebrity Apprentice. Apparently Trump is a small minded vindictive creep who never misses an opportunity to rend people who he thinks have slighted him. Well Donald you have reached the nadir of your career and no one is going to forget. I didn't find the Celebrity Apprentice very interesting anymore after the above mentioned episode and am even more appalled by Trump's recent foray into politics. Simply put, there's gong to be some graffiti on Donald Trump's tombstone. In Memoriam: may his golf courses sprout weeds as testimony to his career.
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As a well read person of history, and a fair-minded American, the likes of people like Donald Trump and his divisive language is repulsive. Since post WWII, the American people and government have made tremendous strides in righting wrongs of all it's citizens; extending life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all of it's citizens. This created our erudite, thoughtful and bright president Barack H. Obama; a John F. Kennedy, "Camelot" had he been [white]. His election seems to have engendered so much hate from extremist. Finding that many of our trusted political leaders of the GOP are included in that group is troubling to me. Trump spoke from the 'heart", it wasn't a slip. For nearly seven years President Obama has in my view suffered similar unfair vilification from the GOP. All of it fuels hate that results in : Fergusons, Charleston, SC.,; Trayvon Martin, and many other controversial cop shootings. Our country does not need to revisit Civil War Politics again. Types like Trumps still live there. It hurts the country and what our constitution and Bill of Rights stand for.
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What Trump said was true. Who wants dangerous people fleeing over the border into our country. Why are you denying this? You WANT dangerous people hopping the border? Really? That's stupid.
Your last line said it well. Government is lousy at making things work. Trump could have that playground, bathrooms, bathhouse and bus terminal done in a flash. Which is a generous act for Latinos who populate the neighborhood.
So don't ask him. Let everything languish as it has until it becomes a drug haven slum just like everywhere else that government tries to develop becomes.
Trump, keep your money. Or use it in places that could use a little help.
Your last line said it well. Government is lousy at making things work. Trump could have that playground, bathrooms, bathhouse and bus terminal done in a flash. Which is a generous act for Latinos who populate the neighborhood.
So don't ask him. Let everything languish as it has until it becomes a drug haven slum just like everywhere else that government tries to develop becomes.
Trump, keep your money. Or use it in places that could use a little help.
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Trump is dangerous and didn't have to hop a border. To believe otherwise is sheer ignorance. Government is lousy at permitting a guy to go into bankruptcy at the expense of so many people. He has 9 billion bucks and declares bankruptcy? He then has money to pay back all those from whom he took money. Pitchfork it over. Wait, we've become a country where we need Mexicans to hold that pitchfork and do our dirty work.
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I wonder how many "illegals" are working in Trumps hotels. I bet he thinks they are good enough for that back-breaking work. If so, Trump is breaking a zillion immigration laws!
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I think all communication with and about Trump should from now on be through legal channels. Not one more inch of newsprint, not one more second of television coverage, not one more word or picture on the internet. If he wants to buy an ad, I guess we can't stop him, but all editorial effort on all outlets should be maximized toward ignoring him. He is beneath contempt and beyond the pale of acceptable behavior. If he was on fire I would not cross the street to spit on him.
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Donald Trump is anti-American. He stands for freedom, justice & the Donald Trump way. Ironically, his first & third wives are "immigrants" who certainly have had every opportunity to live a better life in this great land. Not every immigrant is that lucky. They have to battle their way here & toil day & night to send their wages "home" and often to pay off the creepy "border facilitator." Donald Trump strikes me as an angry, spiteful & hateful person. He is certainly not a role model for his children & grandchildren. He has no clue as to what makes a good man. A man of stature is a man who looks out for those who are less fortunate. He alleviates suffering; he does not worsen it. Most of all, a good man is not a man of stature because of his finances & loud mouth. A good man gives grace to others without exception to their circumstances.
It seems that America had shed plenty of grace on Donald Trump. How profoundly sad for him & his children that he is exceptionally ungrateful. He has lacerated his legacy.
It seems that America had shed plenty of grace on Donald Trump. How profoundly sad for him & his children that he is exceptionally ungrateful. He has lacerated his legacy.
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Just like you said they send there wages home, when they get so many freebies when they illegally come here, they put no money into the community, or our economy, how is that good for America, you ever wonder why the Mexican government gets so upset when some of these illegals are deported back to there mainland. How is someone anti American that wants to fix this problem.
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I have yet to find the tax free pump for migrants at the gas station, nor have I been able to sneak into a tax exempt line at the grocery. I have a tag for a express entrance onto the toll road but I haven't found the illegal's drive thru on the turnpike. They put money into our economy at every grocery store and clothing and hardware store. They do not get free admission to movies or ball games, but they patronize almost everything everybody else does. If I contribute to the economy by buying things, so do they.
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Donald Trump has more tax breaks than you could count. He has enjoyed erasing his unpaid debts In no less than four bankruptcies. He is very busy taking our tax dollars for that pathetic golf course in the Bronx. It will shine his tarnished name in neon lights for all those poor neighbors to see until their eyes hurt. Donald Trump has no class, he never did, and he never will. He is The Ugly American.
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Noblesse wouldn't have to oblige so much if government stopped making sweet deals that foster the unequal distribution of our nation's wealth.
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I am not a fan of The Donald, but if the Bloomberg admin had done a better job of looking at how their deal would be perceived by many, they would have ensured that there were bathrooms and playground equipment in the park next door. How much would it have cost them to do so when they spent so much money on building the course?
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Review history all. Trump has been involved in many fraudulent deals and is not a capitalist but a phony. A horrid person who is revealed now as saying racist and destructive things simply to advantage himself. It is backfiring. But more importantly he is not a politician anymore than a pig can fly.
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Illegal immigrants defame themselves. As mush as I dislike Trump he is right on target with the statement he made about Illegal immigrants!
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Keep that in mind next time you buy produce at your local supermarket.
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Trump is the perfect example of of what's wrong in this country, a disgrace.
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Why is everybody bashing Trump.He's one of few who dpeak the truth.It is a Fact that there are many criminals crossing the border daily.many are dangerous criminals,ourbprisons hold many of them.these are facts you cannot put a spin on them with words.How do you think all the ms 13 members got here.Try sneaking into another country illegally and see what happens.I hope everbody wakes up and elects mr Trump.
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MS-13 is not from Mexico.
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If it's a fact - use Trump's position not what you stated - where
are you seeing this information? Yes, some large amount of drugs are coming into this country (look beyond as to why this is happening and don't blame Mexicans). Rapists - like the American Catholic priests not from Mexico?
Trump is an arrogant, pompous idiot who obviously has connections and his hatred is ripe for the pickings from those who are ignorant. But that's great because the Republicans are distancing themselves from him - they want votes and see where this country is headed.
are you seeing this information? Yes, some large amount of drugs are coming into this country (look beyond as to why this is happening and don't blame Mexicans). Rapists - like the American Catholic priests not from Mexico?
Trump is an arrogant, pompous idiot who obviously has connections and his hatred is ripe for the pickings from those who are ignorant. But that's great because the Republicans are distancing themselves from him - they want votes and see where this country is headed.
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S. Dennis - Statistically it is more likely that your child will be sexually assaulted by a public school teacher than a priest. For all the press, children are less safe in public schools. FYI.
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The city should be able to sue Trump if his comments make the course unsuitable for mainstream use.
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As a resident of Throggs Neck in the area where this course is, I can confirm that this article is spot on. The adjoining park is indeed barren, not just of water and play equipment and bathrooms, but of trees. In the summer the park is a scorching plain. There is one other thing you won't find there: people. Meanwhile Ferry Point Park is abutted by warehouses and a city construction vehicle area (honestly I'm not sure what it is). Last I was there the road was a wreck. $127 million. Bronx residents could have done a lot better with that money. If the city ever has another $127 million to spend in the Bronx perhaps we can have a bigger say in how it gets spent.
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Donald Trump is surging in the polls. He puts out the political red meat like no one does. There are few things I like about his candidacy but I recognize the genius in crafting a political message which resonates with the most ignorant and bigoted within our society. His size of his political success is a direct reflection of the failure of our education system.
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What a spot on comment. I like things he's doing with his idiotic candidacy because ultimately it's hurting him (despite what his team says that losing
businesses are a drop in his 9 billion dollar bucket but built on whose backs ...).
It's fun to watch candidates distancing themselves from him.
Your last line tops it all off like a red cherry on top of his stupidity.
businesses are a drop in his 9 billion dollar bucket but built on whose backs ...).
It's fun to watch candidates distancing themselves from him.
Your last line tops it all off like a red cherry on top of his stupidity.
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The federal immigration and naturalization act section 8 USC (1324)(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) section 274 felonies under the federal immigration and naturalization act, INA (274A)(a)(1)(A) Makes it a felonly to knowingly hire illegal aliens and is punishable by $250,000 per illegal and 5-10 years in jail. Isn't it about time that the paper of record does a little investigative journslism and look into the hiring practices of Trump and his enterprises and see if he has any "drug dealing rapist" on his payroll. The emperor would be looking for his boxers made in Mexico if you were to expose his hypocracy.
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Jeb Bush does not like Trump. Which can only be a good sign for Trump.
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Why do people hate those who created so many good paying jobs in their community?
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I doubt that the employees, creditors and suppliers who got hosed by Trump's four bankruptcies see it that way. Their jobs and investments went down the tubes -- while Trump's personal income stream never missed a check.
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I'm quite certain Hitlers brown shirts appreciated the jobs created during the Nazi era. Want to rethink your comment?
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The spoken truth can be offensive sometimes. The man is allowed to express his views, and hé shouldn't be attacked for that. We don't live in Stalinist Russia.
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NO ONE is saying that he cannot express his views.
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In Stalinist Russia, the government attacked those who said what it did not like.
In a nation with freedom of speech, anyone who speaks out should expect commentary from other citizens with the same right to free speech.
The right to free speech means you can say what you want. It does not mean people can't point out the stupidity or mean-spiritedness of what you said.
In a nation with freedom of speech, anyone who speaks out should expect commentary from other citizens with the same right to free speech.
The right to free speech means you can say what you want. It does not mean people can't point out the stupidity or mean-spiritedness of what you said.
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No, because if we lived in Stalinist Russia he'd already be on the end of a meat hook. Try reading up on the First Amendment - there's no guarantee of not being mocked for your views.
Trump, the ego maniac does not put his own money in any project. Others do and he saps his name on it and collects fees, for what I don't know. As long as there are suckers willing to finance why not? We all know the TaJ Mahal Casino story. In Baja California several people lose millions by advance purchase of condominiums that were never built. Trump collected his hefty fees and left every one high and dry by bankrupting the project.I despise any one who makes money by cheating people.
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Trump as a handsome young man tall, blonde about town cavorting with Roy Cohn at all the decadent NYC nightspots I'm sure intimate favors we're exchanged.
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$127 million, with no guarantees of at least a bathroom in the park?
What was the City thinking?
What was the City thinking?
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I am glad the city has established the golf course. Now, they need to start razing the obsolete public housing, like Throgs Neck Houses and PARTNER with the private sector to replace the slum with new modern housing with air conditioning, washer/dryers, security, elevators etc.
It's unfortunate that the "Slum Clearance" policies of decades ago, which helped create public housing, etc, turned into "Slum Preservation."
It's unfortunate that the "Slum Clearance" policies of decades ago, which helped create public housing, etc, turned into "Slum Preservation."
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Who would go into the new modern housing that's livable ...
Those who could afford it or the people living under horrible
conditions? The nice answer would be update the conditions
and leave those living there live in at least the 20th century.
Slum Preservation exists because of connections, hedonism, and the desire
to not help the poor. Slum lords are running it and being allowed to.
This goes on all over the City.
Those who could afford it or the people living under horrible
conditions? The nice answer would be update the conditions
and leave those living there live in at least the 20th century.
Slum Preservation exists because of connections, hedonism, and the desire
to not help the poor. Slum lords are running it and being allowed to.
This goes on all over the City.
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And yet he is polling 2nd in GOP polls. Have his comments been truly damaging to his political career? Seems like they have made it.
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In the dwindling GOP ranks, yes; but not in the world of the sane.
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Will a Republican ever be elected President again? It doesn't look like it. So it doesn't matter what it's done for his political career. Unless he's planning on running for mayor or governor, but New Yorkers wouldn't have him.
Trump's message that one can be proud of being vacuous, greedy, and bigoted resonates with many voters for a reason. I don't blame Trump for his gibberish talk as i suspect he cannot help himself. I do blame those in the entertainment industry, business, and media who have for too long treated Trump's claptrap as charming exuberance and not so innocently cultivated it.
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You know for a city that has lived with Trump for so long, you really gotta wonder about it getting in bed with Donald Trump for just about anything. I could have kinda understood some small town in Podunk maybe not knowing about the Trumpster, but really NYC???? Why is anyone surprised? Therein lies the problem, NYC leaders all in bed together and sometimes forget that at least one of them is a jerk.
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John Galbraith described this all perfectly, "Public squalor, private splendor."
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Mr. Trump represents both the intellectual vacuity and malice of some elements of our society. Let us hope that his party has the integrity to reject him and his hardcore followers. They are all contemptible.
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They seem to love him even more, the more outrageous and offensive he gets.
If the city paid for this course, and (why? why? why?) he is receiving 5 years rent free, then the city can name the course anything it dang wants to. As a matter of fact, it should insist on it. He should be out of the picture.
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This was a mayor Bloomberg deal. Bloomberg was happy to do the deal.
Over the years there have been several articles by Juan Gonzalez in the daily news about this bad deal for NYC
Over the years there have been several articles by Juan Gonzalez in the daily news about this bad deal for NYC
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I don't remember the Times ever questioning the wisdom of either the project or Mr. Trump's role.
Please correct me if my memory fails me.
Please correct me if my memory fails me.
golf courses in general are a waste of land, and are environmental hazards that strip native flora and fauna, and dump toxic chemicals into the ground and surrounding water sources. in the form they take today, they should all be illegal.
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No more billionaire deals, tax-credits, arena building, sheel company scams, vanity names,etc. Get Trump's name and contracts off government owned property,ASAP.
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"raises the question of whether he really is as much an ideologue as he is an entertainer."
He's a buffoon w/ a real skill to live off of other people's money.
He's a buffoon w/ a real skill to live off of other people's money.
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I will never understand the logic of Americans (non-immigrant) - they react with terror at mention of socialism but bat nary an eyelid about giving tax money away to capitalists.
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Trump is a throw-back to the Know Nothings, whose platform was getting rid of Catholics and the Irish.
I do not understand why Trump is being allowed to build a Trump Tower on Pennsylvania (America's main street) Avenue in DC. That will be such a blight!
I do not understand why Trump is being allowed to build a Trump Tower on Pennsylvania (America's main street) Avenue in DC. That will be such a blight!
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Why don't we all stop talking about him, ignore him totally, stop giving valuable space in newspapers and air time? That would be a well-earned, fitting rebuke for this attention seeking, racist narcissist. That is his achilles heel and will hurt him where it hurts most.
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Wonderful writing. I was enthralled by two boring subjects: golf and Dinald Trump.
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Reminds me of a story I read about Nancy Pelosi. She and her hubby developed this huge resort in California with public money. There was a requirement that the golf course which was part of the resort be open to the public. Nancy and hubby obliged. The public was free to book tee times from 3:00 to 6:00 - AM!
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Got a source for that?
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Do you have a compelling citation, or is this just a silly urban, er conservative, legend?
Sure. Peter Schweizer. Do As I Say Not As I Do. Broadway Books. (New York 2005.) pp. 135 et seq.
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Why is there no firestorm demand a removal of the name "Trump" wherever found as its become a living symbol of racism?
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The very existence of this 127 million dollar boondoggle and an insult to very New York tax payer. The City could find so many better uses for money than a golf course: perhaps a firehouse, a school, a tax refund???
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I agree with putting an end to illegal migration and sending back people broke our laws. The manner in which he voiced his opinion was deplorable and insulting. Running for president requires accurate and temperate statements. Mr. Trump is notorious for voicing unedited opinions. His brash style is not conducive to peaceful dialogue. However I do agree with him on the issue of illegal migration. We know what to expect of him we should take him a grain of salt and a lot of pepper.
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a broken clock is right twice a day, if it's not digital.
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J & G Trump did not make any distinction between undocumented and documented individuals. To then state he imagines there are some good Mexicans... well how does one even attempt to quality that statement.
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"Running for president requires accurate and temperate statements."
You're kidding, right?
You're kidding, right?
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Trump's Golf Course !! Ostentatious, Obnoxious, plainly decadent, ugly display of wealth without class, narcissistic!! And we tax-payers and NYC footing the bill!! How about spending that 126 million on affordable housing? Oh, the City cannot afford that. Why are we enabling this brass (or crass ) personality? Is there something that he is blackmailing the city with? Some transparency please!
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If they want this to be a municipal course, the prices should be municipal prices allowing all economic backgrounds to play. Most people in big cities can't afford to blow hundreds on a round of golf. The PGA, NYC and other big cities would be wise to promote low-priced, high-end courses accessible to everyone. Otherwise the game continues to be elitist and snobby.
Trump's involvement stinks this course up to no end. What will this club house look like? I can just imagine Trump in his red tie, lips pursed, "I want it classy! East Coast classy!" Then some nautical themed, Hampton's styled, Vegas-like, Disney version of East Coast classy get's erected at three times the budget.
Trump's involvement stinks this course up to no end. What will this club house look like? I can just imagine Trump in his red tie, lips pursed, "I want it classy! East Coast classy!" Then some nautical themed, Hampton's styled, Vegas-like, Disney version of East Coast classy get's erected at three times the budget.
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How can he prevent Univision employees from using a public course?
Oh well, at least there are a lot less articles about him today.
Oh well, at least there are a lot less articles about him today.
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I never understood the association of the name Trump with either class or quality, no more, than in it's heyday, of wearing clothing with the Playboy bunny logo.
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Anyone else remember the April NyDaily News column by Juan Gonzalez on the opening of the Trump course? City actually is into it for @ $230,000,000 with Mr. Trump chipping in $10.5 million for the clubhouse and management. City cost could go up to $300 million by some estimates, with NY picking up an estimated $300k per year tab for water. ONE HUNDRED jobs - half to Bronx residents. Big Deal. Green fees: $141 weekdays, $169 weekends (under 16 $54, over 65 $87.) Well, at least Mr. Trump didn't have to seek the protection of a bankruptcy judge and stiff a bunch of contractors on this project. This is a good thing.
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Trump has been quoted as saying that he is so rich he doesn't have to care what anybody thinks of him, and he can do what he wants. And, so he does. As evidenced by a few comments here there are actually people that take him seriously, support him and would vote for him. Anyway, it's important to have someone represent the bigot community. They are often overlooked and underserved.
There's no shortage to the number of people that are begging to do business with The Donald. As long as he makes money, his friends don't care what else he does. But, he better never slip up, because he's exactly the kind of person whose friends and supporters will dump all over the first chance they get.
There's no shortage to the number of people that are begging to do business with The Donald. As long as he makes money, his friends don't care what else he does. But, he better never slip up, because he's exactly the kind of person whose friends and supporters will dump all over the first chance they get.
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Who in the Bloomberg administration agreed to put Trump's name on this course?
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Bloomberg. Follow the money--if you dare.
"...the mistakes we make when we assign amusement-value status to people who might actually mean what they say..."
This says it all. We all -- but especially the mass media -- need to learn from this.
This says it all. We all -- but especially the mass media -- need to learn from this.
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Trump's Pennsylvania Avenue Billboards: Business Ads Or Political Message?
http://wamu.org/news/15/06/18/trump_billboards_business_ads_or_political...
http://wamu.org/news/15/06/18/trump_billboards_business_ads_or_political...
The writer neglects to mention that this golf course was built on a dump, a landfill, a wasteland. The property sat idle for decades, until this course was built.
Trump is a jerk, and a joke, to that there is no argument.
This golf course however, (which is not private, but is open to the public) will remain to serve NYC long after Trump has faded into history.
Trump is a jerk, and a joke, to that there is no argument.
This golf course however, (which is not private, but is open to the public) will remain to serve NYC long after Trump has faded into history.
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Well, not exactly. The course was built on undeveloped parkland (not wasteland) though, yes, like many parks built during less enlightened times, it was indeed initially built atop of a landfill/dump but it had not been an active dump since the 70's if not before. So placing tons and tons of fill atop this land -- to create a golf course complete with hills -- is an especially bad thing to do since the extra weight can easily cause the methane from the former landfill underneath to leech sideways (instead of escaping upwards) and further pollute nearby waterways. That section of Ferry Point Park was in its undeveloped state a habitat for many animals including many birds -- much like the former Talapoosa landfill in nearby Pelham Bay Park is today. NYC COULD have more gently developed this portion of the park in a way that would not have displaced wildlife, and would not have shut out the local community, and would not have required the application of pesticides and herbicides for decades to come as the golf course will require. As far as enjoying the golf course, yes, the small minority of people who actually golf (and the smaller percentage of them who can afford the steep fees -- triple other municipal courses) will no doubt enjoy the park for years to come. Everyone else (which includes the vast majority of people/taxpayers who live in the nearby vicinity) was just robbed.
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Well, at least it will serve that portion of the population that can afford $150 to play a round of golf.
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Mr. Trump should have offered to build the missing restrooms at the existing Ferry Point Park. Problem solved. And it would be the most fabulous lavatory ever, gold plated and all. Call it the Trump Toilet.
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There are millions of well-to-do citizens of this country who share Trump's hateful, backward point of view. That truly scares me.
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Just another article, and a poor one at that, about a person running for president. What about the golf ? We know all we need to know about Mr Trump.
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It is astounding that NY would invest 127 million in a TRUMP golf course.Who is responsible for such an idiotic expense??.This is such a glaring example of the dichotomy between rich and poor that the politicos who green lighted this preposterous endeavor should be indicted.How much of Trumps OWN money was used for this and what profits will he reap from it's creation??
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Only in the USA could a serially bankrupt 'entrepreneur' get the green light AND his name on a project..... If everyone involved in this project did get paid, maybe it's really about second chances and evolution. Just Kidding. It's all about the hair.
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The New York times better careful or Trump will sue.
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Sullivan v ny times. He'd be laughed out of court.
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No, our country doesn't need to go bankrupt again. Thanks, but no thanks
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You couldn't pay me to use this facility.
Let us recall that the man came by his fortune the olde fashioned way, he inherited it, specifically from his father Fred.
Let us recall that the man came by his fortune the olde fashioned way, he inherited it, specifically from his father Fred.
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Let's look at Trump from another POV, that of the newly arrived immigrant: Here's a selfish, self-involved boor who spends his large reserves of cash to bring attention to himself, no matter how inane or ill-informed or ugly his words; who does nothing to aid his fellow humans in need, and who uses the power of his wealth to influence elected officials to gain even more power and wealth to, in turn, serve himself. Is this Trump the stereotypical rich man of the land of the free, America?
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You're absolutely right. The BOOR has plastered his name on the Chicago building he's built while all the others stand in their elegance to be admired.
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This course is but a minor footnote in Mayor Bloomberg's legacy of corporatism. He was not quite beholden to business interests, but he only ever catered to them.
This course and Mr. Trump's recent offensive remarks are entirely consistent with his legacy - as a smug, obnoxious, mean-spirited bully and fool.
Woe to anyone who ever went in with him on a project - including Bloomberg and NBC. You may be making a profit, but in doing so you facillitate Mr. Trump's toxicity.
This course and Mr. Trump's recent offensive remarks are entirely consistent with his legacy - as a smug, obnoxious, mean-spirited bully and fool.
Woe to anyone who ever went in with him on a project - including Bloomberg and NBC. You may be making a profit, but in doing so you facillitate Mr. Trump's toxicity.
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There are many analogies that have been used to describe Mr. Trump and his endless trumpeting, but this is the first time I read one that included the word "quiet".
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Whoever said, "there is no bad publicity" was obviously referring to Donald Trump. He has about the same chance of being elected President as he does of becoming King of England. In the meantime, the show must go on. Nobody in their right mind takes this buffoon seriously.
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I once read a comment in The Guardian that said Donald Trump's hair was proof of the existence of God. I still have no idea what it means, but I also still think it's the funniest comment about him I've ever read.
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The golf course is beautiful and for those who love golf it is a real asset to the city. I'm not rich, but I would save up to play on a course like that... As for the Bronx, beware, because the wealthy developers have their eyes on the South Bronx and are buying up properties like mad. In the next 10 years the minority communities and poorer people will be asked to leave. Money talks and no one wants to pour their investments into affordable housing. It is stupid because a community just for the rich is unsustainable. Hopefully the people living in the South Bronx will have the power to ward off these developers. Who needs another Williamsburg with all the arrogant Hipsters and the high rise buildings.
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Trump's top course in Bedminster, NJ should have both the 2017 U.S. Women's Open and the 2022 PGA taken from it. Those marquee events are very valuable to him and his brand.
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Trump is truly an exceptional man. Most people, when they start campaigning for president, begin to amass millions of dollars. But with nearly every word uttered by Trump, his net worth has shrunk. Next candidate please.
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Uncover Trump and shed light on the cancer that ails our democracy and plagues humanity's better world. In the face of nature's ruin and our ailing democracy, it seems that we the people need a good run to in order to turn the tide in the game of life. Viva El Pueblo!
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I'm surprised at the anti-Trump comments here. As one reader says, this is a good thing that has been created for those who live in the area. The article says that the Trump organization maintains the property so why all the fuss? The reason that Trump is rising in the polls is because a lot of what he says are what a lot of Americans are thinking anyway and want to hear someone say out loud. The latino backlash is out of proportion to what he actually said.
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There are the same "a lot of people" who think the president's subhuman. Next!
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It wasn't at all created for people who live in the area. Just the opposite.
You are joking, right?
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Welcome to the one-sided arraignment between Corporate America and our " supposed " representatives, who control our national treasure, including our natural resources.In order to live in the best nation in the world, we, all, have to pay our fair share to maintain its Constitutional imparatives. Pay your taxes, Corporate America and quit having the working classes pay for your three-martini lunches, just to name a small perk, of all the extorted perks the Corps muscle from our representatives and enjoy at our, the tax-payers'expense.
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Donald Trump's brash outspoken prejudices are no secret and are nothing new. Still the City got in bed with his organization and name on a public golf course. It is the City, not Trump himself, who is to blame for any problems or shame. There is no question his organization understands how to run a golf course but with it comes all the negatives and there are dozens of others who could have been selected. He may be a jerk, but unfortunately he does have a history of getting things done (remember Wollman Rink, which would probably still be under construction if Trump had not stepped in). As to inequality, nonsense! It is again the City and its political leaders at fault by not insisting that the community benefits meet a certain schedule. Trump is an open book. If the City chose not to read that book, it is not his fault.
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There's a lot missing here. I don't play golf and I am no fan of Trump, but I do know the cost of environmental remediation. It is fantastically expensive, and in New York, where environmental protection (real or imagined) has near-universal support, there are no checks on clean-up expense. So, we know that the golf course sits on a former dump, where nobody would want to build anything unless (a) the government paid; and (b) future cleanup costs (inevitable) would not be the responsibility of the private developer. Absent those protections, the site would remain a dump. We know that this site has been targeted for cleanup for many years, and has seen cost overruns because of delays, garden-variety incompetence, and, most importantly, because of the scary contaminants discovered along the way. We also know that as a cleanup site, there is limited development potential. No housing, etc. As a result, a golf course kinda makes sense. But the Trump part, and the high total cost, has proven irresistible to reporters who cannot report beyond a popular narrative. And this one has got it written all over. It is too easy a target. Now, if, in fact, the course cost $127 million exclusive of the cleanup costs, then maybe we have a story here. If not, then it's a successful remediation made possible by a silly golf course, and there is no story.
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check NYDaily News April, Juan Gonzalez report - looks like taxpayers took care of remediation too - total bill @ $230 mill including building. Contract may have city on hook for up to $300m total. Check around.
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Best post so far.
Remediation is very expensive, and often precludes many future land uses. Locally, we are in the third year of an $800,000,000 "clean up" of the lower Fox River, the past dumping site for paper mill toxic chemicals. Years ago, the Ferry Point site likely would have been developed for low income housing for the poor. Do not want to expose rich folks to toxics! Laws prevent such use today. So, open space uses such as parks and golf courses are appropriate.
Remediation is very expensive, and often precludes many future land uses. Locally, we are in the third year of an $800,000,000 "clean up" of the lower Fox River, the past dumping site for paper mill toxic chemicals. Years ago, the Ferry Point site likely would have been developed for low income housing for the poor. Do not want to expose rich folks to toxics! Laws prevent such use today. So, open space uses such as parks and golf courses are appropriate.
Someone should get busy an investigate a $127,000,000.00 contract to build a golf course.
This whole deal stinks on first smell. Trump is running the course? Why? In exchange for building a ten million dollar club house? Plus, no rent for FIVE YEARS?
I know, I know, Trump is the world's best negotiator. Wha'd he do, threaten to move in with Bloomberg full time if the deal wasn't signed? Take hostages? Something, anything, to justify such a strange contract?
Hey, I'd like to do business with New York on these terms. Please give me a call and I will tell you where I want a rent free commercial tower built.
This whole deal stinks on first smell. Trump is running the course? Why? In exchange for building a ten million dollar club house? Plus, no rent for FIVE YEARS?
I know, I know, Trump is the world's best negotiator. Wha'd he do, threaten to move in with Bloomberg full time if the deal wasn't signed? Take hostages? Something, anything, to justify such a strange contract?
Hey, I'd like to do business with New York on these terms. Please give me a call and I will tell you where I want a rent free commercial tower built.
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Cheers to writer Ginia Bellafante for so many great laugh out loud lines in this article! Truth is stranger than fiction but rarely funnier than when written this well.
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The city spends $127 millions to build a course managed by Trump Organization (egregious enough considering it's restricted to wealthy golfers, a sentiment Mr. Trump advocates) yet the small concessions to the community in the form of a working park sit unfinished. The same happened with the new Yankee Stadium. After consuming extant parkland, the scatter site parks around the neighborhood - some 1.7 miles distant - remained unfinished years after the stadium opened. How about a policy mandating the completion of amenities and concessions to the community prior to the construction of the luxury sports complexes?
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Glad this nasty bigot did not get his hands on Jones Beach and build his monstrosity of a hotel/restaurant or whatever the scheme was. Public lands and public services funded by tax dollars need to increase in our state and nation not decrease in compliance with the Siren calls of unregulated capitalistic greed mongers. Plow that golf course under, grow food and give it away in the poor areas of the Bronx.
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Yes. Let's grow food on a highly contaminated, former wasteland and give it to the poor. Yes, cancer is what poor folks need.
gregory - so you want the city to spend another $100 million dollars to clear the golf course to grow contaminated food over methane gas? in what world does that make sense???
Trump's behavior elsewhere is also a lesson. He bought a golf course in Scotland and planned to build a 5 star hotel there. Then the Scottish government planned an experimental windfdarm in the bay some two miles away.
Trump took hte government to court, at the same time threatening to decamp to Ireland. He lost in Scotlnd, bought in Ireland, and unfortunately was greeted like a king there. Just the way Trump likes it. WE await the outcome at Doonbeg, Co. Clare.
Who wants a blustering bully like that with his finger on the nuke button?
Trump took hte government to court, at the same time threatening to decamp to Ireland. He lost in Scotlnd, bought in Ireland, and unfortunately was greeted like a king there. Just the way Trump likes it. WE await the outcome at Doonbeg, Co. Clare.
Who wants a blustering bully like that with his finger on the nuke button?
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Your last sentence. A terrifying thought.
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Its a nice golf course.
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"raises the question of whether he really is as much an ideologue as he is an entertainer"? I'm even questioning why I'm responding to this- it only fuels his fire. Presidential election cycles are just another platform for him to be in the news. Let's be clear- there is NO ideology there, only self aggrandizement- viewed through that lens, it all makes sense.
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Donald Trump expresses the id of the GOP.
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This is why no one in the Republican Party is disputing Trump's opinion on anything. He is his party's "real" spokesman; he's their proxy and their image to the world.
This is good. All we need to do is dig as much dirt on Trump (I'm sure there's tons of juicy stuff out there) and make it public with the understanding that this is what the GOP stands for and see if anyone comes out to distance themselves and the party from this clown.
This is good. All we need to do is dig as much dirt on Trump (I'm sure there's tons of juicy stuff out there) and make it public with the understanding that this is what the GOP stands for and see if anyone comes out to distance themselves and the party from this clown.
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Maybe it's time to quit referring to it as a Grand Old Party, as you did just now, yes?
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Isn't this trickle down economics that has worked so well in the past?
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We’ve all been reading about the un and underemployed. Yesterday, the Times carried an article, by Neil Irwin, titled "The New Jobs Numbers Are Weaker Than They Look”. Why are we letting illegal aliens take jobs when our own citizens and legal immigrants need them? There aren’t enough jobs for everyone.
This newspaper is more interested in convincing the country to let illegal immigrants remain here than it is in our own people who want to work and in the families they need to support.
This newspaper is more interested in convincing the country to let illegal immigrants remain here than it is in our own people who want to work and in the families they need to support.
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Trump was very mean spirited - but overall what he said is true. Most Mexicans are good people - but it is undeniable that there are murderers and drug traffickers and rapists who steal across the border. In fact - the honest Mexicans and other Central Americans are themselves a prey for those criminals. Many of the non-violent people who cross the border are robbed, raped, extorted, and even murdered by the criminals who are there too.
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What part of this golf course story do you connect to illegal immigrants taking jobs?
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Why hasn't the republican majority in Washington passed an immigration bill restricting immigration?
“He has no idea what’s coming,” the organization’s president, Javier Palomarez, told me. “The Hispanic community is really galvanized around this.”
And they'll have no shortage of allies. Teach that spoiled brat a lesson,
And they'll have no shortage of allies. Teach that spoiled brat a lesson,
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I'm not from New York but cannot understand how the City of New York paid $127 million for a golf course that is now maintained "by the Trump organization."
And yet, here in Sacramento, the taxpayers are basically footing the bill for a new NBA arena, with the owners getting all the profits and merchandise/parking revenues. And if you New Yorkers think you've been taken, our country clubs here are allowed to go right on watering every single hole, every single day, while the taxpayers' lawns and landscaping around the houses are bone dry and dead from drought and community swimming pools are closed. We were 110 degrees here yesterday. Del Paso Country Club ($30,000/yr. membership) just sponsored a Senior Tournament with "2,600 volunteers coming in from out of state," our paper reported. So the Country Club doesn't even have to pay or hire local citizens. Free labor - must be nice. Is it the same at your "Links"?
When will we, the people, rise up and say "Enough?" If you want to own an arena or a country club, pay for it yourself. All those billionaires cannot get a loan from a bank, or find some fellow billionaires to go in with them on the deal?
No, we taxpayers just keep shelling it out and doing nothing. We have got to start revolting against this nonsense.
And yet, here in Sacramento, the taxpayers are basically footing the bill for a new NBA arena, with the owners getting all the profits and merchandise/parking revenues. And if you New Yorkers think you've been taken, our country clubs here are allowed to go right on watering every single hole, every single day, while the taxpayers' lawns and landscaping around the houses are bone dry and dead from drought and community swimming pools are closed. We were 110 degrees here yesterday. Del Paso Country Club ($30,000/yr. membership) just sponsored a Senior Tournament with "2,600 volunteers coming in from out of state," our paper reported. So the Country Club doesn't even have to pay or hire local citizens. Free labor - must be nice. Is it the same at your "Links"?
When will we, the people, rise up and say "Enough?" If you want to own an arena or a country club, pay for it yourself. All those billionaires cannot get a loan from a bank, or find some fellow billionaires to go in with them on the deal?
No, we taxpayers just keep shelling it out and doing nothing. We have got to start revolting against this nonsense.
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Actually, there is something in NYC that is similar to what's going on with the new Kings arena, and that is known as the Atlantic Yards, though that's now being called Pacific Park. That entire project is being subsidized by both the city and state, while Bruce Ratner, who is the head of Forest City Ratner, is getting all of the profits. In reality, it was never about bringing an NBA team like the Nets to Brooklyn, it was more about a developer just wanting more land, but he needed something to please certain politicians, so the Nets were really nothing more than his Trojan Horse. I did join the fight to try to stop, but knowing how Ratner had friends in high places, it was very difficult to stop him not to mention that he used black groups to go to hearings and fight for him. Even worse, he was even allowed to use eminent domain despite the fact that his project wasn't even serving the public at all. Overall, it wasn't that people didn't care about what was going on there, it was more about who had the leverage. Then again, the opposition does get the last laugh seeing that this project will probably never get finished and be left as empty lots in years to come.
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Welcome to corporate run America where citizen power has become null & void.
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Some one goes to the polls and elects those who make the rules. If we don't get off the couch to vote, all the grousing in the world blows away in the breeze and provides entertainment for those we put in office.
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Trump is the same buffoon today that he was two weeks ago, and that he was twenty years ago.
The confederate flag is the same symbol today that it was two weeks ago, and that it was one hundred years ago.
In the words of Hutchins, "The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment."
The confederate flag is the same symbol today that it was two weeks ago, and that it was one hundred years ago.
In the words of Hutchins, "The death of democracy is not likely to be an assassination from ambush. It will be a slow extinction from apathy, indifference, and undernourishment."
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Every time I look at a photo of this property I can't help but think about some of the other things that might have been done with it.
Housing, for example. One of the things that has disappointed me about DeBlasio is he (or his people) don't seem to have much imagination in terms of affordable housing. (Same thing goes for former mayor Bloomberg) It seems all they can think of is giving more RE developers more tax breaks in exchange for adding "affordable"units to their tacky high rises.
How about thinking about developing totally new communities in unused, or not sufficiently used property in the outer boroughs? Places like the place where this golf course was built. I'm not talking about cheap rental apts. for people who make under 40 or 50k a year for a family of four. I'm talking about nice aparments in large planned "cities within the city" that people would buy. Say apts. for people who make 50 - 200k a year. These would be desirable, so maybe people making more than 200k a year would want to buy. That would be okay, but they would have to live in them (as would everyone else) and would not be allowed to buy for investment purposes. Aren't there other places in the world where we can look for ideas. Like Europe? Why does everything have to remain the same -- scattershot development that strikes someone's fancy at the time it is approved. Ongoing assumption that high-rise riverfront development in Manhattan, Brooklyn and parts of Queens what everyone wants.
Housing, for example. One of the things that has disappointed me about DeBlasio is he (or his people) don't seem to have much imagination in terms of affordable housing. (Same thing goes for former mayor Bloomberg) It seems all they can think of is giving more RE developers more tax breaks in exchange for adding "affordable"units to their tacky high rises.
How about thinking about developing totally new communities in unused, or not sufficiently used property in the outer boroughs? Places like the place where this golf course was built. I'm not talking about cheap rental apts. for people who make under 40 or 50k a year for a family of four. I'm talking about nice aparments in large planned "cities within the city" that people would buy. Say apts. for people who make 50 - 200k a year. These would be desirable, so maybe people making more than 200k a year would want to buy. That would be okay, but they would have to live in them (as would everyone else) and would not be allowed to buy for investment purposes. Aren't there other places in the world where we can look for ideas. Like Europe? Why does everything have to remain the same -- scattershot development that strikes someone's fancy at the time it is approved. Ongoing assumption that high-rise riverfront development in Manhattan, Brooklyn and parts of Queens what everyone wants.
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No - you can't build affordable housing on a former dump. Where do you all come up with this stuff?
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Government is a business by another name.
One friend of mine, who went home to become a deputy prime minister of a middle eastern country about 10 yrs. ago, had a saying on his desk that went something like this: "Politics is the art of telling someone to go to hell and then have him thank you for the privilege."
Local governments everywhere like big, expensive housing developments because those people pay more in taxes. Conversely, making room for the poor folks means lower taxes and the probability of more services. As businesses, governments work to increase their revenues and decrease any "unnecessary" expenditures, all the while telling everyone how caring they are for each citizen.
Bloomberg, the billionaire, was the billionaire's friend as mayor. He sees nothing wrong in a city filled to the brim with the mega-rich. In fact, he is on the record as saying we need the billionaires in New York to pay for the stuff the rest of us need. This is at best a distortion and at worse a lie, because the non-rich can pay quite enough in taxes to take care of public needs.
The mega-rich, bit by bit, are ruining the reason they wanted to come to NYC in the first place: its vibrant, quirky art and restaurants, it varied and talented inhabitants and its unpredictability. In time, it will come to resemble an assemblage buildings with nothing more than the 5 star hotel experience where the mega-rich spend time around the world, an interchangeable, bland melange of luxo plushness.
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I think I referred to this site as an example of the type of large site that might be used for some imaginative city planning -- not just this site and not just what you call "affordable housing."
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Weekend rate $215 for non-residents, and I think another $35 for the cart, or $115 for a caddie. All subject I think to 8.25% sales tax. Pretty pricey for a muni. Lincoln park in SF with views of Golden Gate are $43 for weekend non resident
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New York City already had several more affordable (and in some cases historic) muni golf courses before this one was built. One can only question why, regardless of how much or little it costs to play, it was decided another muni course was the best use for this property.
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Ellienyc - the "why" is because the Throggs Neck community had been asking for a golf course for over 30 years at that site.
Andre: Is there some reason why the members of the Throggs Neck community can't get into the many cars they own and drive to one of the many other public courses within driving distance -- Van Cortlandt Park, perhaps? Furthermore, as far as I know, owners of property in that area pay quite low property taxes on their single family residences. Exactly what is it that entitles them to their own golf course?
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It is easy to mock and criticize Trump fully appreciating the comedic factor that he brings into the arena.
It is just as easy to ignore his basic point, which is that people living close to the border often do not feel safe because they are exposed to incessant trespassings that sometimes include human and drug traffickers armed to the teeth.
It is even easier to ignore the points that: (1) These guns are American-made and bought legally in TX, NM, AZ stores; (2) Illegal immigration is driven by exploitation of Latino workers by the 'hospitality', construction and agriculture industries; (3) Drug traffickers are fulfilling the demand for drugs in this country, providing the proof that prohibition does not work.
It is just as easy to ignore his basic point, which is that people living close to the border often do not feel safe because they are exposed to incessant trespassings that sometimes include human and drug traffickers armed to the teeth.
It is even easier to ignore the points that: (1) These guns are American-made and bought legally in TX, NM, AZ stores; (2) Illegal immigration is driven by exploitation of Latino workers by the 'hospitality', construction and agriculture industries; (3) Drug traffickers are fulfilling the demand for drugs in this country, providing the proof that prohibition does not work.
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I find it ironic that Texans are as up in arms as they are about illegal immigrants when in fact their very state exists as a result of "their"illegal intrusion into Mexican territory. Go figure.
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$127,000,000.00 for a golf course!!!
From what source(s)?
I hope an itemized bill exists.
From what source(s)?
I hope an itemized bill exists.
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No it's not just to build a golf course. It was an environmental clean up. A smaller scale of Fresh Kills on Staten Island.
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Though experience has proved it wrong, a myth persists among business writers and pundits that the Republicans manage the nation's' money better than the Democrats. Donald Trump fits the GOP like a glove, not only for his prejudices, but for his history of fiscal management. He did something that's just about impossible unless you cook the books - go bankrupt running a casino.
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Not to mention the fact that everytime he quotes his alleged "net worth," some organization like Forbes or Bloomberg comes along and contradicts him, usually saying he's worth no more than half what he claims. So maybe he's not quite as successful as people like you think.
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The key measure you want to look at is the ratio of debt to GDP, which measures the government’s fiscal position better than a simple dollar number. And if you look at United States history since World War II, you find that of the 10 presidents who preceded Obama, seven left office with a debt ratio lower than when they came in. Who were the three exceptions? Ronald Reagan and the two George Bushes.
Beware those who think they know better. This guy is speaking what an enormous number of working class people want to hear. It's important that NYT cover his everything political. We have to know proper analysis
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I think the fact that he is polling well speaks to how angry the Republican voters are. They are fueled by these hate spewing radio hosts. Atlanta has a station that puts on these rage-enablers almost 16 hours a day. Honestly, I fear for the country. Think about it, what job could have Limbaugh on the air during business hours? What sort of life do these people lead? I am sure most of them are harmless, but it only takes 1.
The Republicans have allowed the craziest voters in their part to drive the ship. This is a direct result of Citizens United: Nutty, unelectable hate mongers the Kochs and their ilk pick out from the Republicans who will only appeal to angry and desperate people.
The Republicans have allowed the craziest voters in their part to drive the ship. This is a direct result of Citizens United: Nutty, unelectable hate mongers the Kochs and their ilk pick out from the Republicans who will only appeal to angry and desperate people.
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Angry and racist (some) of them may be, but has the left ever once asked why there is discontent amongst those on the right?
The typical response to any anti-illegal immigrant musings is to scream "racism!" as loudly as possible, regardless of the context or content of said opinions. The left has managed to create a climate where the only acceptable answer to illegal immigration is 'amnesty for all.' Dissenters be damned to the eternal wasteland of formally silenced 'racists'.
When people see their culture and way of life rapidly change, foreign nationals pouring unchecked over our borders, no attempt by many immigrants to integrate into American society (let alone learn the de facto official language), depressed wage rates from an excess of unskilled labor and billions of dollars spent on benefits and programs for people who came here illegally, you cannot expect them not to be upset. You also cannot expect people to be happy about amnesty for all, even though no Democrat has presented the country with a good explanation as to why millions of illegal immigrants are beneficial (as opposed to the millions of highly educated foreigners seeking entry into America, which Democrats apparently are not interested in helping out).
Illegal immigrants are good for businesses looking to pad their bottom line and Democrats looking to expand their voting base. How does it benefit low and middle income Americans? Who knows. No one has bothered to explain it.
The typical response to any anti-illegal immigrant musings is to scream "racism!" as loudly as possible, regardless of the context or content of said opinions. The left has managed to create a climate where the only acceptable answer to illegal immigration is 'amnesty for all.' Dissenters be damned to the eternal wasteland of formally silenced 'racists'.
When people see their culture and way of life rapidly change, foreign nationals pouring unchecked over our borders, no attempt by many immigrants to integrate into American society (let alone learn the de facto official language), depressed wage rates from an excess of unskilled labor and billions of dollars spent on benefits and programs for people who came here illegally, you cannot expect them not to be upset. You also cannot expect people to be happy about amnesty for all, even though no Democrat has presented the country with a good explanation as to why millions of illegal immigrants are beneficial (as opposed to the millions of highly educated foreigners seeking entry into America, which Democrats apparently are not interested in helping out).
Illegal immigrants are good for businesses looking to pad their bottom line and Democrats looking to expand their voting base. How does it benefit low and middle income Americans? Who knows. No one has bothered to explain it.
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Mr. Dragone,
The "racism" response is appropriate. As a native Californian, I can tell you that it isn't just what the Republicans say, it's how they say it (i.e. they're all drug dealers, criminals and rapists), and, more importantly, what they don't say.
At the Univ. of California, the number of Asian students admitted (mostly Chinese) have outnumbered American kids dramatically. (In UCDavis in 2011, 56% of the student population was from Asia.) Then they stay.
AlJazeera did a report on the rich, pregnant Chinese women coming into Southern California and staying there to give birth. One woman interviewed said her children had "a right to go to school in America" and she wanted the baby to be a citizen. The GOP reps for that area said nothing.
The GOP never discusses all the illegals working in wealthy homes whose employers use them as slave laborers. They never discuss the brutal Russian mob. They never discuss the "Persians" who came over under Bush/Cheney. They never discuss putting limits on a broad range of countries for visas, yet the high tech business wants the cheaper labor force that brings. And those visas are bartered.
And they never, never, never, ever talk about building a wall on the border with Canada. Does the GOP does not know that people cross that border, too?
So, Mr. Dragone, to target Hispanics IS racism, plain and simple.
The "racism" response is appropriate. As a native Californian, I can tell you that it isn't just what the Republicans say, it's how they say it (i.e. they're all drug dealers, criminals and rapists), and, more importantly, what they don't say.
At the Univ. of California, the number of Asian students admitted (mostly Chinese) have outnumbered American kids dramatically. (In UCDavis in 2011, 56% of the student population was from Asia.) Then they stay.
AlJazeera did a report on the rich, pregnant Chinese women coming into Southern California and staying there to give birth. One woman interviewed said her children had "a right to go to school in America" and she wanted the baby to be a citizen. The GOP reps for that area said nothing.
The GOP never discusses all the illegals working in wealthy homes whose employers use them as slave laborers. They never discuss the brutal Russian mob. They never discuss the "Persians" who came over under Bush/Cheney. They never discuss putting limits on a broad range of countries for visas, yet the high tech business wants the cheaper labor force that brings. And those visas are bartered.
And they never, never, never, ever talk about building a wall on the border with Canada. Does the GOP does not know that people cross that border, too?
So, Mr. Dragone, to target Hispanics IS racism, plain and simple.
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Here is a hint genius: Illegals cannot vote and have shown no interest in doing so. It is true the demographics in this country have changed. That is a done deal, suck it up.
It is well documented that as a group illegals pay into social security and taxes without receiving benefits. If somehow we were able to get rid of all of them kiss good to a good part of your SS benefits.
No liberals do not want to make illegal immigration legal. Stop repeating talking points.
It is well documented that as a group illegals pay into social security and taxes without receiving benefits. If somehow we were able to get rid of all of them kiss good to a good part of your SS benefits.
No liberals do not want to make illegal immigration legal. Stop repeating talking points.
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When I was a kid growing up in the Bronx in the 1960s, the Whitestone Drive In still existed. I would often ride my bike down Brush Avenue to the jetties at Ferry Point and throw my crab nets in the water.
Riding my bike around the park's bike paths, I never understood why there were never any people in this park. There really wasn't anything in the park to do, except maybe fish or crab, and I did not know the park was built on a garbage dump.
Sounds like, except for the golf course, nothing much has changed.
Riding my bike around the park's bike paths, I never understood why there were never any people in this park. There really wasn't anything in the park to do, except maybe fish or crab, and I did not know the park was built on a garbage dump.
Sounds like, except for the golf course, nothing much has changed.
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Dear New York City powers that be, there is an old adage you seem to have forgotten about making deals with the likes of organized crime, Greed driven Banksters and noisy little Donny Trump. " When you Lie Down with dogs, you wake up with Fleas." The only cure is a thorough DE-Lousing.
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"Paid for by New York City, to the sum of $127 million" meaning, by the individual taxpayer. A golf course! Why not spend that money on improving our schools and building affordable places for people to live? This is a scandal!
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My immediate reaction as well. A disgrace.
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Check the facts. The majority of the money went to environmental remediation.
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"If the thought of Donald Trump has been lodged in your head of late..."
How can it not be, you cover his every move and lip movement. This is NOT news that's fit to print. Radio silence.
How can it not be, you cover his every move and lip movement. This is NOT news that's fit to print. Radio silence.
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Wrong. He's as important as Bernie Sanders. They have to cover him. And we have to know.
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Supporters of Trump, and I find it incomprehensible that anyone supports this buffoon, should look at this fiasco (and others like it) as foreshadowing of things to come, should Trump be elected to the highest office in the land. He considers himself the world's best businessman, yet he consistently misses contractual deadlines, has gone bankrupt on four occasions, and comports himself as the world's worst communicator.
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I would love to see what would happen if all the Hispanics that keep Trump's hotels, casinos and other places alive would walk off the job. If they wanted to, they could ruin him. Trump has a tiger by the tail.
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The “comments” issued by the nation’s leading golf organizations regarding Trump’s ignorant and bigoted pronouncements are meaningless unless and until they follow Univision, Macy’s, and others and sever ties with His Royal Fatuousness. The fact is that, with some notable exceptions, golf is a game played by and focused upon, older, wealthy, White people – just like The Donald – and I do not expect those organizations to do anything to such a high profile golf booster.
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Note: it is not our "leaders" (for instance, Priebus, Boehner) who call out the disrespect and ignorance espoused by Trump (I'm being polite)...it's media, Macy's, etc. The GOP silence is deafening.
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Trump demonstrated who he was when he joined the birther liars and racists. For the City of New York to have anything to do with him after that? Well, New York deserves everything it's gotten from that relationship.
Lie down with gerbils and you deserve their fleas.
Lie down with gerbils and you deserve their fleas.
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Donald Trump is nothing but smoke and mirrors. He has no business acumen except for his talent at selling his name while the real money comes from elsewhere and others. The fact that he is actually polling well speaks to his success at showmanship and the gullibility of some who think that the rich are some type of folk heroes to be "idolized." No one knows this better than "the Donald" (lower case intentional).
blowhard (blō′härd′) n. Informal. A boaster or braggart. blowhard (ˈbləoˌhɑrd) n. 1. a boastful person. adj. 2. blustering or boastful.
blowhard (blō′härd′) n. Informal. A boaster or braggart. blowhard (ˈbləoˌhɑrd) n. 1. a boastful person. adj. 2. blustering or boastful.
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if the residents of NYC don't want to enter into contracts with DT, they can take a pass, but if it was appropriately approved by the NYC administration at the time, where's the beef? So now some of them have buyers remorse.They may be at liberty to have the course plowed under and converted (repurposed to use an in vogue term) as long as the bills were paid as per the contract . So get on with it.
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Trump has been conning people for years. Banks seem to never understand his "Heads I win, tails you lose" philosophy of how to get ahead at the expense of others foolish enough to trust you. His "candidacy" may be a belated blessing in disguise. Investors, governments, politicians, and the general public are getting a clear indication of how risky it can be to get involved with Donald Trump.
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We can only hope. History has shown that many tolerate this BEAST!
Did Bloomberg think naming this course Trump would lend it credibility and draw celebrity obsessed amateur golfers to this 'faux' links fiasco? Among amateur golfers who travel to play iconic golf courses, any course with the name Nicklaus associated with the design is a non starter. The PGA and it's corporate partners at NBC and CBS have long associated with anybody or thing that might enhance revenue for them. For example, it wasn't that long ago that Limbaugh and his odious cigar were featured prominently at the Pebble Beach Pro Am. Didn't matter that Rush was spewing some of the most divisive, hate soaked, misogynistic bile on the radio. Now Trump, a blowhard, narcissistic celebrity billionaire, whose signal accomplishment has been to illustrate just how craven our culture has become, marches on stage with his dime store hate and racism.
It's no wonder that the wonderful game of golf is losing players at a rate that will shut half the courses in the country in just a few more years. This 'Bronx Tale' is emblematic of the arrogance and ego of men like Bloomberg and Trump and the legendary Nicklaus. Meanwhile, there remains the annoying and hopefully embarrassing problem of 25,000 homeless kids in NYC. What to do, what to do? Hey wait! The guy playing by himself in the photo doesn't have a caddy.
It's no wonder that the wonderful game of golf is losing players at a rate that will shut half the courses in the country in just a few more years. This 'Bronx Tale' is emblematic of the arrogance and ego of men like Bloomberg and Trump and the legendary Nicklaus. Meanwhile, there remains the annoying and hopefully embarrassing problem of 25,000 homeless kids in NYC. What to do, what to do? Hey wait! The guy playing by himself in the photo doesn't have a caddy.
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A bit ironic after reading your missive to hear your critism of Rush for spewing hate don't you think? Reminds me of the pot calling the kettle. I'm no Rush fan but... amateur golfers view Nicklaus designed courses as non starters? Half the golf courses in the country will shut in a few years? I'll offer heavy bets abainst both of those theories.
"Trump Links"? A more fitting name would be "Trump, the Missing Link"
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Or: "Trump Stinks"!
And who is surprised by Trump's behavior about golf courses or immigrants?
Remember his obsession with President Obama's birthplace?
One look at his hair style says it all.
The only positive comment I can make is that he is honest about his prejudice and lack of taste and intelligence.
Remember his obsession with President Obama's birthplace?
One look at his hair style says it all.
The only positive comment I can make is that he is honest about his prejudice and lack of taste and intelligence.
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The writer of this article needs to go back to school and learn how to write a story that has an actual point. Is Mr. Trump good because he gets bathrooms built quickly, or is he bad because the water in the water fountains is either nonexistent or hot and there is nothing to do in his parks but watch the grass - if there is any - grow? Grade C- for this writer, and that's generous.
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So, "an actual point" means not acknowledging that Trump gets things done (when he wants to)? I think it's a very well-written piece.
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Trump and De Blasio deserve each other. Maybe Ms Bellafante could arrange a luncheon with them both at which the could hash out (alright, a small pun!) these issues with any remaining issues settled by a "closest to the book" contest with Pikety's tome placed next to the hole.
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"Public/private partnerships" over the last 20 or 30 years have become code for screw the public and subsidize the rich. Public land and buildings are sold or leased for a song to develop luxury housing and exclusive play space, often in formerly working class or industrial neighborhoods. The newcomers, direct beneficiairies of the charade, espouse how wonderful it is to live in a diverse neighborhood while any hint of real economic diversity is continually pushed out of the neighborhood. Polite people call this gentrification.
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This is basically an opinion piece. And, as predicted the articles does not provide the full context of the Trump comments. It is amazing as most of "us" have forgotten about the various crime sprees of illegal aliens from south of our border. This does not mean all illegal aliens are on crime sprees, as point that Trump made. But it is so easy to demonize Trump, unless (I guess) you or your family have been terrorized by an illegal alien. But most the hipsters and social justice warriors are not interested in actually doing an in-depth story on facts and fiction.
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Isn't there some way to change the name? It seems that it must be done. The man is a disgrace. His whole persona is the antithesis of the very classy identity he seeks to put forth in his luxury buildings and hotels. What is that old saying, "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig." Well, Trump can hire the most sophisticated designers and architects, but he is still a boorish person. It's in his DNA. I just can't believe we even have to discuss this guy. Money keeps buying him a platform.
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Taxpayers money bought him this platform. Changing the name is the right thing to do.
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He didn't hire the best--a look at his buildings says volumes. Blingy, yes. Classy, no.
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His hotels and buildings are not "luxury". They are gaudy, tasteless and show a complete a utter lack of class and style (gold trimmings??). Very typical of the nouveau riche. I would invite Mr. Trump to get architectural inspiration from Mexicans such as Luis Barragan, Mario Pani, Pedro Ramirez Vazquez and Francisco Artigas. Yes Mr. Trump, Mexico has architects - not everyone is a rapist.
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The headline states there is some inequality. Who or what government agency actually owns the golf course? That government agency would be setting the rules and policies for the operator/maintainer (Trump) to abide by. At the end of the story there is reference to a park used by Latinos that doesn't have amenities. Again, that is a government failing, not a failing of Mr. Trump.
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This is a public course, which is a vast improvement to the former landfill that occupied the area. It's a shame the city hasn't put in bathrooms for the park yet, but that seems to be a failure of the De Blasio administration. This was originally Rudy Giuliani's idea too, which the author doesn't mention.
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Trump is a completely tone deaf self promoter and nothing else.
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To borrow a quote from Benjamin Disraeli, Donald is "Inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination." Unfortunately, he is no Gladstone.
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The use of public land for private use is always suspect. Look at the sports complex built on Randall's Island. It seems to be reserved for the private schools' use, not for the local East Harlem public school students who have more limited options for sports activities.
How inclusive are the greens fees at the Trump Club?
How inclusive are the greens fees at the Trump Club?
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NY residents M-Thurs $141, weekends $169, cart fee $35 per rider. Not exactly "public course" prices.
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It's like my dad always says: If you lie with dogs, you get fleas.
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Even if Trump was 1000% correct in his statements about Mexicans, how could anyone in their right mind imagine this loud mouthed boor serving the United States as a diplomat, let alone president? Every time he opens his mouth he lowers the bar on truth, civility and decency. The last thing we need as president is a clown.
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I'm not a professional athlete, but if I were one, I would be offended if being told that a golfer is my business 'colleague'. It is a disrespect before a practitioner of athletics or swimming, to be put on the same level of 'effort' a sportsperson that practice a 'sport' wearing slacks, shoes...anyway clad as if it would take part in a trade or political meeting of an company and finally, which still abstain from the perhaps the unique demonstration from what can be apparently can be deemed a sport activity: do some strength by carry the clubs...
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Tell me how this fellow made his money again? He seems to spend most of his time making people mad.
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He made his money by picking the right (rich) parents.
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The gauntlet has been thrown.
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Something seems missing from this story...something that would give this story more legs....Under which administration did the City decide to fund Mr. Trump's golf course and how did this come to happen?
Although one can say a number of kind words about the accomplishments of Mayor Bloomberg this is not one of them. The City has been refashioned to accommodate the very wealthy. This is most apparent in housing development. The Trump golf course is a glaring example of the failure of this kind of vision. Fortunately, we were spared a football stadium on the West Side of Manhattan.
Although one can say a number of kind words about the accomplishments of Mayor Bloomberg this is not one of them. The City has been refashioned to accommodate the very wealthy. This is most apparent in housing development. The Trump golf course is a glaring example of the failure of this kind of vision. Fortunately, we were spared a football stadium on the West Side of Manhattan.
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Now that the City of New York is seriously thinking about severing its ties with the Trump 'Empire' that manages the Trump Golf Links at Ferry Point, they should cancel their management lease for that course immediately.
I assume that every lease can be cancelled 'for cause', and the Donald gave them more than one.
I assume that every lease can be cancelled 'for cause', and the Donald gave them more than one.
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Message to elitist Trump golf course: Retake the Commons!
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Thanks for the article. As long as he continues to do and say foolish and insensitive things, and the media continues to send the message that Donald Trump is a buffoon, his Presidential chances are marginalized. He then remains fodder for the entertainment section and not the front page.
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I've read this piece twice and still don't know if it has a central point. I suppose it's a Trash Trump story since it's really not about the golf course as the headline suggests. The Donald most certainly put his foot in his mouth (maybe both feet) during his announcement of his candidacy. And he will never get my vote for a number of reasons. And one of those is his careless bluster. As successful as he is in business that bluster is so un-Presidential and regular doses of that would not enable him to be successful either on the domestic or the international stage. But the reaction to his remarks about immigration are overblown. I don't believe the man is anti "Latino" or anti Mexican. I think he let bluster get his foot in his mouth.
Now onto this golf course. Trump has added a beautiful oasis in the South Bronx. A municipal course - not country club in the Trump portfolio that requires a healthy 6 figure amount of cash to join. A municipal course open to the public. And while it will not be inexpensive to play there, just maybe some youngsters from the South Bronx will get some access to the great game of golf and some of the lessons that come with being on the golf course. And just maybe this sport, which is not very accessible to many people, just got more accessible to people who otherwise would never have set foot on a golf course. I call that a very good thing, even there is a place on the course "all you can see is 432 Park Ave protruding from billionaires row."
Now onto this golf course. Trump has added a beautiful oasis in the South Bronx. A municipal course - not country club in the Trump portfolio that requires a healthy 6 figure amount of cash to join. A municipal course open to the public. And while it will not be inexpensive to play there, just maybe some youngsters from the South Bronx will get some access to the great game of golf and some of the lessons that come with being on the golf course. And just maybe this sport, which is not very accessible to many people, just got more accessible to people who otherwise would never have set foot on a golf course. I call that a very good thing, even there is a place on the course "all you can see is 432 Park Ave protruding from billionaires row."
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I agree with most of what you said... It's not "the South Bronx" though.
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I would like to know how much a non member would pay to use the course.
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Let me see if I can help a little Charlie. One of the many good points is that Trump hasn't fulfilled his side of the bargain. (And he has done this in his dealings with the city in the past btw.) "One of the concessions, a nine-and-a-half-acre community park that separates one thread of the course’s perimeter from the Throggs Neck Houses, still doesn’t have a bathroom three years after it opened. While it is under construction, water fountains and sprinklers remain inoperable." Not following through on the parks is a pattern with him that ought to be documented and brought to light.
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Why is there a Donald J. Trump line of clothing? Why would Serta sell a Trump mattress? Have we completely lost our minds?
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In a world where the Kardashians have become very rich and front page tabloid news with regularity the answer to your last question is absolutely yes.
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I find this thoughtful line of inquiry entirely satisfying.
The bulk of Donald’s money is tied up in assets. How much of those he’s willing to convert to cash to fund a Presidential campaign probably weighs very heavy on his mind. Multi-millionaire businessmen are smart, but they are also notoriously cheap.
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I would think that the question of converting his assets into cash would be of interest only to all his ex-wives.
And the current one.
And the current one.
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Soak him for his millions. Trump will pay attention eventually, as his only real strength is in marketing a brand, his name. The brand is now damaged. And as far as the campaign goes, he's a gift to the Democrats, as it becomes increasingly difficult for the GOP to outrun it's racism.
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Golfers, including the PGA Tour, should boycott all Trump properties.
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This idea of "putting a luxury golf course in the city's poorest borough" nonsense has to stop. The area where this course is - in spite of having projects thrown there - is not low income at all. In fact - it was the community themselves who had been requesting a golf course be put there. Of course they want something upscale to boost their property values - as most of them are homeowners. It's amazing how politics has to enter everything. The whole Bronx is not poor. In fact - if you go not to far from this course their is an upper middle class neighborhood called "Country Club". It is called so because that is exactly what was there. Next to it is "Spenser Estates". Yes - that is the Bronx.
Trump is an loud mouthed jerk - but I doubt the city can just cancel the contracts. Nor would it be sensible. I do agree that Trump's big mouth may have cost the city the economic jolt of hosting major championships at that course. If the golf organizations do say they will no longer associate with him (as he has a few tournaments with them at his other courses) - then there may be a way out since that is the main purpose. If so then I guess the city would just have to compensate him the 10 mill for the clubhouse. The other issue is who would be able to run it well enough.
Please no one say they could/should have built affordable housing or a school there. 1) you couldn't do either on a former dump like this. 2) again - it was the community itself who wanted it.
Trump is an loud mouthed jerk - but I doubt the city can just cancel the contracts. Nor would it be sensible. I do agree that Trump's big mouth may have cost the city the economic jolt of hosting major championships at that course. If the golf organizations do say they will no longer associate with him (as he has a few tournaments with them at his other courses) - then there may be a way out since that is the main purpose. If so then I guess the city would just have to compensate him the 10 mill for the clubhouse. The other issue is who would be able to run it well enough.
Please no one say they could/should have built affordable housing or a school there. 1) you couldn't do either on a former dump like this. 2) again - it was the community itself who wanted it.
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The area where the course is may not be poor, by the borough of the Bronx is quite definitely the poorest borough in New York City.
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ellienyc - yes you are correct. overall it is the poorest borough. It got that way because of city policy. After the Cross Bronx Expressway was built - all whites fled to the north. The blacks and Puerto Ricans were then confined below that border. Then came the redlining by the banks - and the insurance fraud that facilitated the burning down of buildings. All under the city's turning a blind eye - and even reducing services. So what is your point? The city shouldn't spend money to put nice things in The Bronx now????
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Although I have no way of knowing how Trumps contract with The City is worded nor the specific clauses it may contain, most licensing agreements contain "morality clauses" stating that if either party acts in a way that harms the reputation of the enterprise, the contract may be cancelled. I can't believe that this contract has no such "loophole".
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At Trump Golf Links, if you turn your gaze away from Manhattan and peer East, you can catch a glimpse of Gatsby's Light from his dock. Bloomberg's and Trumps still amuse us as we speed past the teeming tenements.
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The Donald is the whole package: The Good the Bad and the Ugly...right now, mostly ugly
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D.Trump running for nominee?
Paragon of bull feathery,
Mouth hyperactive,
Language reactive,
Exemplar of dimwittery
Paragon of bull feathery,
Mouth hyperactive,
Language reactive,
Exemplar of dimwittery
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Larry,
It's really very odd, how did Trump get the nod?
He's said rude things for years.
While leaving the fired in tears.
Yet, the course does bear his name
I wonder who's to blame?
Here, things "Conservative" are "Bad"!
That fact, it makes you all glad!
But let a Trump play too, why that will never do!
Generalizations are all bad.
Yet no one here is sad.
In fact, they continue to be glad.
While Generalizing Conservatives bad!
It's really very odd, how did Trump get the nod?
He's said rude things for years.
While leaving the fired in tears.
Yet, the course does bear his name
I wonder who's to blame?
Here, things "Conservative" are "Bad"!
That fact, it makes you all glad!
But let a Trump play too, why that will never do!
Generalizations are all bad.
Yet no one here is sad.
In fact, they continue to be glad.
While Generalizing Conservatives bad!
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Trump trumpets his trumpet again! Sorry for the alliteration but it was irresistible. Trump is what Chris Christie is although the former isn't running a state. They are both loud, ill-mannered, given to saying things they shouldn't, and excellent at alienating people. New Jersey elected Christie governor for a second time and he's been away from his state more than in it and running it. Trump, like Christie, makes outrageous statements and expects to get away with it because he's got the money. Both are bullies and both don't seem to understand how what they say affects other people.
I think that Trump is more representative of the GOP than the GOP wants to believe. He's just saying what they say in private. Remember Romney's taped statement about 47% of us being being dependent upon the government and not paying taxes? This is more of the same only Trump said it openly. Perhaps we should thank him and start to challenge all Republican candidates on their feelings about the 99% of Americans who are not rich.
I think that Trump is more representative of the GOP than the GOP wants to believe. He's just saying what they say in private. Remember Romney's taped statement about 47% of us being being dependent upon the government and not paying taxes? This is more of the same only Trump said it openly. Perhaps we should thank him and start to challenge all Republican candidates on their feelings about the 99% of Americans who are not rich.
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Hard to argue with much of what you say but it certainly is one sided. You are leaving out the list of failures by the city government from promised rest rooms to unkept promises by Moses to a head scratching deal to finance a golf course. If you lay this at the feet of Republicans only, you need to remove your blinders and see the very many government employees who have fed at the taxpayer trough over the decades. You may see good guys in this equation but I don't.
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I say let Trump and Christie continue on their paths. They support the economy by spending money on fruitless campaigns. And although they are running for a spot on the GOP ticket they are in fact supporting the Democratic nominee.
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Trump is the modern GOP embodied in one man.
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Donald Trump is the finest street hustler Brooklyn has produced. He just does what come naturally when the poor have something the powerful want - they take it.