People have placed their trust in Modi and voted his party to power. Modi's top most priorities are to create millions of jobs every month till the next 48 months and to uplift millions of people from dire and severe most poverty, every day. He should seek mutual economic cooperation from every country in the world, whether it is China, EU, USA or even Pakistan. At the same time he should make it apparent that India does not intend to play one with the other.
China is not a trustworthy and the whole world always talks about its financial prowess. Most sight it as the next super power.
Great, I was just wondering that how many times the life goes perfect like an expectation.
The fate as it seems doesn't exist without the sense of an irony.
Great, I was just wondering that how many times the life goes perfect like an expectation.
The fate as it seems doesn't exist without the sense of an irony.
Both Narendra Modi and Xi Jinping are pragmatists, who just want to forge trade ties for mutual benefits, both China and India need to boost growth. But the unresolved border dispute still hangs like a Sword of Damocles on their relationships.
For this reason Beijing intended to invest $46bn on an economic corridor from the port of Gwadar in Pakistan to Kashgar in the Chinese region of Xinjiang. The construction of the port started over a decade ago, but met obstacles like insurgency in Balochistan, the government's incompetence, corruption and lack of transparency etc.
Perhaps China is hoping to find a safer spot in one of India's "coastal states" to secure its "trade and transport routes" in the Indian Ocean!
But Beijing will not have unfettered access to the Indian market, which is very protective and closed to foreigners. European pharmaceutical companies complain often about India's generic drug industries, at the cost of their R&D.
For this reason Beijing intended to invest $46bn on an economic corridor from the port of Gwadar in Pakistan to Kashgar in the Chinese region of Xinjiang. The construction of the port started over a decade ago, but met obstacles like insurgency in Balochistan, the government's incompetence, corruption and lack of transparency etc.
Perhaps China is hoping to find a safer spot in one of India's "coastal states" to secure its "trade and transport routes" in the Indian Ocean!
But Beijing will not have unfettered access to the Indian market, which is very protective and closed to foreigners. European pharmaceutical companies complain often about India's generic drug industries, at the cost of their R&D.
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I love how Modi is playing several major powers against each other while determining which one will best serve India's interests and where. I was never his fan but it's interesting to watch him play a chess game on the international stage. And Indians have always been great at chess!
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Chinese will outsmart India in any field. They are outsmarting the whole world. Chinese are focussed and will bring anything to fruition. There national interest will trump any other consideration.
India is in a precarious situation . India will have to play a balancing act with U.S and China. Both are capable of abondoning them but U.S. to some extent is more reliable as U.S also feels threatened by China. Modi shouls simply look for economic assistance from China and leave it at that. India cannot yet be a major player in any other political or Asian security concerns. It's military clout is no match with China, a giant
India is in a precarious situation . India will have to play a balancing act with U.S and China. Both are capable of abondoning them but U.S. to some extent is more reliable as U.S also feels threatened by China. Modi shouls simply look for economic assistance from China and leave it at that. India cannot yet be a major player in any other political or Asian security concerns. It's military clout is no match with China, a giant
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/may/21/great-and-beautiful...
A little perspective from a renowned historian.
A little perspective from a renowned historian.
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This meeting of India and China clearly points out that the deal is far greater than either the sword or the pen. When their trade reaches several hundred billion in the years to come, the idea of hostilities will fade away. Lots to learn here.
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Two superpowers can not exist side by side - law of nature dictates that one will take over the other. Thus there is no possibility of India-China relation to reach the state of India-US relation. The same dilemma exists for Japan, Russia and Iran. There is strategic interest of these countries to reach the balancing strategy suitable for mutual coexistence without war. Modi should not make the the same mistake that Nehru did - Hindi-Chini Bhai Bhai. Reach the right balance that is appropriate for the current situation and make Indian security strong. Use Chinese capital on those sectors that are not related to Indian security and build India's manufacturing capability. Over time, these five countries will find the solution like EU - that time has not come yet.
It seems like at the moment, China holds the economic chips in this poker game. It's economy is larger and its infrastructure rivals that of developed countries. But, this change mostly happened in the last 15 years. When it comes to rapport and alliances with neighbors, Beijing seems to have alienated every neighbor, including Russia and North Korea which have marriages of convenience with Beijing. China knows this, and it knows its historic disputes with neighbors like Japan and Vietnam will not go away. If India can reform economically, the next 15 can transform India into a country that is balanced economically with a strong services/IT sector and a strong manufacturing base with superb infrastructure. At that point, when they meet at economic eye-level, India will always have the extra chip of good relations with China's neighbor, while China can only depend on Pakistan. I think the Chinese know this, and they know the possibility that their own economy may resemble the slow-motion crash that Japan has endured since the 1990s. If these are a strong possibility, an aging China may be wary that time is on India's side.
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No matter what India, Japan or US keep good relation with china, Cina will try to double cross. China is one of the biggest copy right violator. When I visited "Canton Fair" in china. Many of US patented goods were selling to other market like India and middle east. China wants to be another super power. China wants all latest technologies from US, So china can use against them. That is the main reason of hacking US government computers many times. I think India, US and Japan should make a comprehensive defence agreement if china use her muscle in Asia.
With the big population, Indian will be a good source of soldiers to fight a war for US and Japan. Stir up a war between India and China? That's will be a dream plan to maintain the western power domination.
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It will be a mistake to cooperate with China in Software or any other Critical sectors. As it is, there is a saying “ There are two types of companies in the world, the ones that know that they have been hacked by Chinese and the other that are unaware that they have been hacked by them.”
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There is so much for both countries to gain if they cooperate and so much for them to lose if they quarrel that close cooperative relations are a no-brainer. Too bad neither country rises to that level of intelligence.
To all my fellow Democrats in the U.S. Senate who are opposing the trans pacific trade agreement, connect the dots:
How many dots? 2.5 billion, each one a person, living either in China or India.
Between them India and China contain some 37 percent of the entire population of the world.
They, far more likely than we, will control the world's resources, trade and mankind's destiny in the second half of this century and how we and they relate and share the world then is being determined now.
The trade agreement is one of the bulwarks in the foundation we are or could be putting down now to shape the second half of this century.
Granted you and I and anyone over the age of 40 likely will be dead and gone by then, but your children and grandchildren will be here.
So think of them and then think of all those billions of children and grandchildren in India and China with whom there will be business to be done or by whom our business and future will be taken over from your children and grandchildren on terms and in ways you would not like were you here to see it and vote for the future to which the trade agreement opens the way.
How many dots? 2.5 billion, each one a person, living either in China or India.
Between them India and China contain some 37 percent of the entire population of the world.
They, far more likely than we, will control the world's resources, trade and mankind's destiny in the second half of this century and how we and they relate and share the world then is being determined now.
The trade agreement is one of the bulwarks in the foundation we are or could be putting down now to shape the second half of this century.
Granted you and I and anyone over the age of 40 likely will be dead and gone by then, but your children and grandchildren will be here.
So think of them and then think of all those billions of children and grandchildren in India and China with whom there will be business to be done or by whom our business and future will be taken over from your children and grandchildren on terms and in ways you would not like were you here to see it and vote for the future to which the trade agreement opens the way.
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India and China have a lot to gain from each other. China has the manufacturing clout and India has become the epicenter of mass software development. It is only a matter of time before wily entrepreneurs begin seeing how these 2 strengths can be effectively combined. Nationalism and sword waving make for popular press, you cannot bank nationalism. Ask the French, while they vote Socialist they send their money to New York.
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Modi's primary task is that of shoring up India's economy which needs
Chinese money and expertise. Having visited China many times he is
focussing on the commonalities in culture so that we start looking at
each other less as enemies and more as economic partners with
a shared civilizational past. Having worked with chinese people in a couple
of countries I personally feel with more people to people contacts
between India and China all problems including the border issue will
be settled amicably.
Chinese money and expertise. Having visited China many times he is
focussing on the commonalities in culture so that we start looking at
each other less as enemies and more as economic partners with
a shared civilizational past. Having worked with chinese people in a couple
of countries I personally feel with more people to people contacts
between India and China all problems including the border issue will
be settled amicably.
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Ancient cultural kinship is a word only except that history records visit of one famous visitor named Fa Hien..Chinese pilgrims played a key role in the exchanges between ancient India and ancient China. They introduced new texts and doctrines to the Chinese clergy, carried Buddhist paraphernalia for the performance of rituals and ceremonies, and provided detailed accounts of their spiritual journeys to India. Records of Indian society and its virtuous rulers, accounts of the flourishing monastic institutions, and stories about the magical and miraculous prowess of the Buddha and his disciples often accompanied the descriptions of the pilgrimage sites in their travel records.
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Modi is in a lose-lose position; if he cozies up too close to the Chinese he will have made India a client state as is the case with Pakistan , which has all but ceded its sovereignty to PRC. China has no interest in seeing India as an equal partner ( it is the only P5 country that does not support permanent membership for India on the UNSC). On the other hand Western powers are notoriously unreliable ( just ask the Pakistanis). Following the 3rd century BCE Mandala theory of Chanakya, India's best bet is to establish strategic economic and military ties with Iran, Japan and Vietnam as the new natural allies of the 21st century to counteract Chinese hegemony.
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Somebody should give Around The World Ticket to Modi;
It should be the hope of every decent human being that Modi will tell China that it must vacate Tibet. Modi must tell China that India does not have borders with China but only with Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh, Mynmar, and with Pakistan. He should then announce a boycott of all Chinese goods until China leaves Tibet. Tibet was never a part of China and should not be betrayed and abandoned by us.
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Well, well, will wonders ever cease? The ugly truth is out at last--there are territorial disputes all over the globe which also defy a quick, easy resolution minus the ridicule, rage and contempt from outsiders. In addition to the tug of war with Pakistan over Kashmir it seems that India is also having trouble with China with another territory both sides claim as theirs. This story sounds vaguely familiar. I wonder where we've heard it before.
Sharon5101, Prime Minister Modi of India is the only friend Prime Minister Netanyahu Of Israel has! There is no such thing as anti semitism in India. Unheard of.
what China and India are going to do and get is undoubtedly important but reaction of western and Indian media is more important to watch.Since two neighbours and two powers are coming on table then certainly it is also gain and need to be welcomed.Modi is dyanamic and active from core of heart and also hold spirit to make historical imprint on world scene and perhaps its most new and path breaking.let great masses of India and China to interact,deiberate and deliver to international relations.Hope it be great activity for all for better tomorrow.
Many Americans should remember this and remember this well......Despite India's cooperation or non cooperation with China ,the Dalai Lama along with his followers live in India and are revered like gods.....in the US , your president fears meeting with the Dalai Lama for the fear of displeasing China who are a million miles away.....Gone are the days when we used to call American presidents as the most powerful men on earth.....I think that term needs to be revisited and corrected.....
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Too high expectations are associated with Prime Minister summit with the Chinese President.Invigorating economic ties and national security are two key agenda of this summit.Economic development cannot be delinked with the climate change.Will climate change receive due cognisance at this summit?
China continues to infiltrate India's border and forbids India of its soverigenty on Arunachal Pradesh marking it as a Chinese territory.So much so citizens of Arunachal Pradesh (holding Indian passport) are given stapled Chinese visa.This is continuing in a blatant violation of India sovereignty.The security and sovereignty of India is in constant threat from China.
Will India surrender to Chinese might its sovreingty?This is a key question that requires serious consideration.
Let us look a page in history.In 1955 at Bandung,Pandit Nehru then Prime Minister and one of the architect of non-aligned movement,introduced then Chinese premier, Chou-En-Lai to a gathering of afrao-asian nation?Nehru pleaded at the UN that People Republic of China be granted its legitimate place at the Security Council. Both Chinese and Indian leader of that epoch coined," Panchsheel ( five principles of peaceful coexistence) and'Hindi-Chini Bhai -Bhai (Indian, Chinese are brothers)'.
All these sweet sloagneering and public showing of goodwill were betrayed by China in 1962 when Chinese troops attacked India.This was most unexpected even unimaginable for Nehru.He suffered heart attack and died on May 27,1964.
China continues to infiltrate India's border and forbids India of its soverigenty on Arunachal Pradesh marking it as a Chinese territory.So much so citizens of Arunachal Pradesh (holding Indian passport) are given stapled Chinese visa.This is continuing in a blatant violation of India sovereignty.The security and sovereignty of India is in constant threat from China.
Will India surrender to Chinese might its sovreingty?This is a key question that requires serious consideration.
Let us look a page in history.In 1955 at Bandung,Pandit Nehru then Prime Minister and one of the architect of non-aligned movement,introduced then Chinese premier, Chou-En-Lai to a gathering of afrao-asian nation?Nehru pleaded at the UN that People Republic of China be granted its legitimate place at the Security Council. Both Chinese and Indian leader of that epoch coined," Panchsheel ( five principles of peaceful coexistence) and'Hindi-Chini Bhai -Bhai (Indian, Chinese are brothers)'.
All these sweet sloagneering and public showing of goodwill were betrayed by China in 1962 when Chinese troops attacked India.This was most unexpected even unimaginable for Nehru.He suffered heart attack and died on May 27,1964.
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China has always treated India with undisguised scorn and makes no secret of its expansionist ambitions. It's about time India moves away from this ever-dangerous neighbour into another geopolitical orbit. A future war is inevitable given China's enormous military strength. We can only hope to survive, not win.
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Wake up Americans please wake up Americans if China and Indian combine it is over for Americans they will eat Americans alive. Come on Americans let's rise up as one nation please this is your future please.
People, please read some more history. China and India, just like China and Russia, are natural rivals for dominance in large parts of Asia. Oh sure, these immense nations can play nice for a while, maybe even for a whole generation, but it has never lasted. When world wide, human-induced climate change starts affecting food production for two nations with almost 1/3 of the world's population, watch what happens. Just because there isn't always a shooting war going on between these actors does not mean it's time to call in the unicorns from the rainbow fields and give out lollipops to everyone.
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Yes. And let's keep in mind that the headwaters of nearly all of India's major rivers -- the snowmelt and glaciers that feed them -- are in Chinese territory.
Imagine the history of the West in the 20th Century if the EU impulse, an old dream of Europeans, had over-ridden nationalism. That is what China and India are trying to do and, left to their own devices, they will succeed.
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India wants a multi-polar world. Unipolar world has
led to wars, chaos and instability in several countries.
India will continue to follow Nehru's policy of
not aligning with any power but have cordial relations
with all except Pakistan. India has not criticized Putin
for his Ukrainian adventure. President of India was a
guest at Moscow parade on May 9th to celebrate
victory in world war 2. By visiting China Modi is sending
the message that India won't join in "containment of
China".
led to wars, chaos and instability in several countries.
India will continue to follow Nehru's policy of
not aligning with any power but have cordial relations
with all except Pakistan. India has not criticized Putin
for his Ukrainian adventure. President of India was a
guest at Moscow parade on May 9th to celebrate
victory in world war 2. By visiting China Modi is sending
the message that India won't join in "containment of
China".
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Nepal will be a good place to show cooperation.
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If Bolivia and Chile can put aside their conflict and maintain good relations India and China should be too -- except that Bolivia ceded its coast to Chile in a ceasefire agreement. There has been no agreement ceding territory between India-Pakistan-China, all have been grabbed. Pakistan grabbed parts of Kashmir, India grabbed other parts and both claim it as their right, which the other contests. India grabbed the landlocked/ isolated Hyderabad [which had as I recall chosen to join Pakistan] - don know if Pakistan Claims it. China and India have their conflicts following the Goat War and Arunachal Pradesh etc.
The solution to just about ALL the problems of the world today is economic growth-opportunity for 'the masses'. Work that out and you have the Holy Grail. As long as businessmen protect capital interests we don't have much hope.
The solution to just about ALL the problems of the world today is economic growth-opportunity for 'the masses'. Work that out and you have the Holy Grail. As long as businessmen protect capital interests we don't have much hope.
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Whereas war-mongering takes stupidity, peace demands high-caliber leadership. Please show us you know the best of Statecraft.
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Modi "has promised economic reinvigoration at home and firmer assertion of India’s security interests. But those goals can be especially difficult to juggle" Not really. If you are interested in the well being of your people -- not the enrichment of the military industrial/security complex you focus on "economic reinvigoration at home". The US experience over the last two decades provides a cautionary tale of what happens a country is overtaken by its military industrial complex resulting in a series of endless pointless wars and the eager search for new enemies/markets for your weapons and weapons systems. Ironically, the US approach over the last decades has ultimately weakened its national security by crippling the very economy and non military related infrastructure a country's long term security truly depends on.
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These are two hard-nosed, pragmatic leaders. Both have (currently) a great deal of soft power at home.
If these two can't make something happen between these two traditional rivals, I doubt anyone else can.
If these two can't make something happen between these two traditional rivals, I doubt anyone else can.
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Modi is a businessman. As such he is moving his pawns carefully in all directions and certainly not in blind faith of course.
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China and India are the two most populous countries with ancient cultures and a very long and shared border. Despite what the American press likes to constantly portray as conflict, these two leaders know that cooperation is essential, even if there are a whole host of issues that they disagree on and others they agree to disagree on.
The shortsighted and narcissistic American outlook of having to control the world economically, culturally and militarily is wearing thin. Even our allies the French and British are more level headed and want to place trade, economic development, infrastructure ahead of endless war and conflict. Has anyone notice that we are at war for 14 years already, with no end in sight? Rather than trying to make endless "enemies" and always try to "contain" them, maybe American greatness can be reestablished by investing in ourselves.
The shortsighted and narcissistic American outlook of having to control the world economically, culturally and militarily is wearing thin. Even our allies the French and British are more level headed and want to place trade, economic development, infrastructure ahead of endless war and conflict. Has anyone notice that we are at war for 14 years already, with no end in sight? Rather than trying to make endless "enemies" and always try to "contain" them, maybe American greatness can be reestablished by investing in ourselves.
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"But economic ties have failed to live up to the effusive promises of past summits. In 2010, the two governments vowed that by 2015 their trade would be worth $100 billion. Instead, last year their trade in goods was worth $70.6 billion..."
It seems to me that their 5-year ago "effusive promises" were well predicted. They reached $70.6 last year (which means 2014). If their trade increase 50%, they will overshoot the $100 mark. Why so pessimistic at all.
It seems to me that their 5-year ago "effusive promises" were well predicted. They reached $70.6 last year (which means 2014). If their trade increase 50%, they will overshoot the $100 mark. Why so pessimistic at all.
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These nations are going to eat the US alive. While we fiddle, they move ahead. Wake up America and all of the joke politicians we have in Washington. They are not helping us at all ........
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While this diplomatic meeting between Modi and Jinping is a delicate and very tricky bit of business ~ it is actually quite clear cut. Rather like a knife to one's throat.
While I respect Prime Minister Modi, and wish him the best, I do hope he is not blind to what China did to Tibet in 1959; stealing a Country that was and IS not their's, at gunpoint, murdering a massive part of the population in the process, and denying the rest their Religious rights, and freedom of Speech.
China's acceleration of "laying claims" to Oceans and Countries beyond their borders is nothing short of theft. Now, you can tell it to Arunachal Pradesh. And Kashmir. And Viet Nam's fishing waters. And, Japan's Islands. And, America can do nothing to dispute this, (??) since Bush 2 let China buy our debt from his phony War in Iraq, making China our "Banker". Rubbish.
The greed, and the calculated power play roll on.
Be careful, Mr. Modi. One can only think good thoughts for so long. Watch your back.
While I respect Prime Minister Modi, and wish him the best, I do hope he is not blind to what China did to Tibet in 1959; stealing a Country that was and IS not their's, at gunpoint, murdering a massive part of the population in the process, and denying the rest their Religious rights, and freedom of Speech.
China's acceleration of "laying claims" to Oceans and Countries beyond their borders is nothing short of theft. Now, you can tell it to Arunachal Pradesh. And Kashmir. And Viet Nam's fishing waters. And, Japan's Islands. And, America can do nothing to dispute this, (??) since Bush 2 let China buy our debt from his phony War in Iraq, making China our "Banker". Rubbish.
The greed, and the calculated power play roll on.
Be careful, Mr. Modi. One can only think good thoughts for so long. Watch your back.
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Mr. Modi is faced with a difficult decision. He has two sides to choose from - a super power and an emerging super power. Unfortunately both have a track record of not being on Indian side in the past. He cannot trust the US or China - historically India was with the Soviet Bloc and had a heavy defeat with China during the 1962 war. The US has always been an unreliable partner in Asia as opposed to with Western Europe. India always had a stable relationship with Russia, now a fading power and democracy has died in that country. It has improved relationships with Japan. So which side should he take? Go with your core strengths - India is a democracy which all Indians cherish. Although economic needs are plenty in the long run two democracies rarely go to war with each other. So I would recommend Modi lean towards the USA, Western Europe and Japan and take his chances.
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I think you are living in the past. The Soviets are now out of most of Europe and politically it is now more apt to say Europe and Russia, rather than Western Europe, although like most Americans you must believe that a great mountain range or sea separates western Europe from eastern Europe.
China and India are leading the way to development as never before. This closeness of China and India is as promising as is the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.
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