Saudi Award Goes to Muslim Televangelist Who Harshly Criticizes U.S.

Mar 03, 2015 · 73 comments
Band (Paris)
He didn't receive any Saudi government prize. He won King Faisal's prize for serving Islam
JDS (CO)
This is the standard for Saudi Arabia. We all pretend that they are an ally, when they only promote hatred of the US and the west. The world wears a choke collar made of oil and has self censored ourselves into not telling the emperor that he wears no clothes.
Marty K. (Conn.)
The Saudis need to make clear which side they are on.

This kind of foolish award is an insult to both Muslims and Christians who have died and suffered under this kind of rhetoric.
reedroid1 (Asheville NC)
While Saudi Arabia is among the most repressive, backward, totalitarian regimes in the world, as well as one of our "closest allies," she has cemented ties with the U.S. through three generations of political marriage with the Bush dynasty and their supporters such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Baker. But S.A.'s history is one of a few nomadic desert tribes taking supremacy a century ago and, when oil was discovered, turning that black gold into golden gold--and world power.
Meanwhile, Iran is one of the world's ancient, magnificent civilizations with a history of accomplishment going back to the earliest recorded documents, and its current 35-year descent into religious totalitarianism seems to be slowly returning to normalcy--a change we must encourage.
So why should, and do, we continue to support Saudi Arabia as it uses our oil money to support the terrorists in ISIL, Al-Qaeda, and all over the world--those very people who attacked us on 9/11, while turning our back on Iran, which is open to negotiation and is arming those who fight AGAINST those same terrorists? This head-in-the-sand behavior is ridiculous and dangerous.
Engage with Iran, make her our friend and ally over time--and hold Saudi Arabia to the same standards we expect of any real ally.
We've all heard of RINOs and DINOs; Saudi Arabia is a FINO--a Friend in Name Only.
Lynn (USA)
As I read through the readers comments, I can't help but think many are brainwashed by the US media. Maybe Dr. Naik's award should cause us to reflect? Is the world a safer place, for example, because we invaded Iraq and killed over 500,000 of their Muslim citizens? For oil?

We are alone internationally in our support of colonial-apartheid Israel (at 3 billion US tax dollars per year). Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. Remember, this past summer's "Operation Protective Edge," in which Israelis slaughtered over 2,200 mostly civilian Muslim Palestinian's (513 were children) in Gaza? It would not have happened without US support and backing.

In 1997, Fortune magazine named AIPAC the second-most powerful influence group in Wash, D.C.. Do we want AIPAC, a group with a pro-Israel no-matter-what agenda, to influence our foreign policy if it harms our reputation in the international community, instigates terrorism, and starts unnecessary wars? Not many of us. Read the 'NYT readers' comments' about today's Netanyahu speech.

King Salman, who is funding one of the greatest expansions of secular higher education institutions for his citizens in the world (my sister is currently a professor at a woman's college in Saudi Arabia), presented this award to someone who pointed out that we have killed Muslims in Afghan and Iraq, and back Israel's slaughter of Palestinian Muslims. Are Dr. Naik's facts incorrect?
Mr Phil (Houston, TX)
"...On Monday, Dr. Naik blamed Christian missionaries who fear that letting him in will cause Christians to convert to Islam.

'I know, and that is why I haven’t even tried going to these countries,' he said. 'People can hear me on the Internet'..."
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Will cause Christians to convert or cause the public to heckle him off the stage?
Amit (Illinois)
As an Indian American, I hope the Indian government and the Maharashtra state government (Mumbai where this guy is from is the capital city of this state) are keeping close tabs on this lunatic! All he does is spew hatred and practice bigotry!
Mbr (Ashburn, VA)
The problem in India is that various political parties appease the Muslims to get their votes. So, the politicians in power do not take any actions against Muslim extremists and Muslim terrorists. For example, the Kerala state government's chief ministers of the Congress and Communist parties have been asking Karnataka state to release Abdul Maudani, a Muslim terrorist with clear supporting evidence, from jail. The current Indian government led by the BJP said that it would revoke Article 370 (special status of the Indian state, Jammu & Kashmir). However, recently, the BJP said that it would not take any action revoke the article.
Rodrian Roadeye (Pottsville,PA)
There is, whether Obama or anyone else wishes to deny it, a war between two ideologies today. And the West is losing. We are isolating China and Russia when we need them as powerful allies to stop the spread of Global Islamic Fundamentalism, which all Muslims are allowed to lie about being a part of, as long as they secretly desire it and work toward it in discretion. The fall of Western Civilization is at hand.
spectrejimc (NY)
Remember this Dr. Naik was feted by the Congress Party and Indian secularists. Just mentioning, in case, you were wondering why Modi won.
Narayan (USA)
It is not surprising that a country which spawns Wahhabi terrorism around the world would award an ally in their cause. The surprising part is that KSA is considered an "ally" of the USA. Either our policy makers are willfully ignorant or downright stupid or both.
Nreb (La La Land)
From the folks who brought us 9/11!
Julie Prandi (Bloomington, Illinois)
Why do we continue to consider Saudi Arabia a close ally, and why do we sell them so much military hardware each year? Iran would be a much better ally for us, not just because Iranians are better educated, have more freedom for women-- but because they are a natural enemy of the Islamic State (as we see in the war in Iraq right now). I'm not sure Saudi Arabia is really committed to defeating IS.
H (North Carolina)
Is anyone surprised that a country that subjugates its people and treats women as property would honor such a person? Money, by way of oil always wins out. Another reason to get off of oil and explore new fuel sources.
dammit (spain)
This probably comes as a shock to that last man who still thinks the Saudis are our friends.
bythesea (Cayucos, CA)
The Saudis sicken me.
Syed Saad Husain (India)
He criticizes the most corrupted government in the history of US...Even the people of US criticize G W Bush more than any president...He has the ocean of knowledge about all the religions and his main objective is to create Peace all over the World...His Peace TV has more than 100 million audience worldwide...He is famous for his inter religious dialogues all over the World...Its sad to see that the Western media response on the achievements of Dr. Zakir Naik...He is the most powerful religious personality in India according to Forbe's...RESPECT that...!!
katfood (Twin Cities)
How is he creating peace by promoting violence and hatred against anyone who isn't Muslim? Or did you confuse the word "peace" with "caliphate"? And why on earth would i respect a powerful religious personality? Just because someone is listed as such a thing does not and should not mean that they automatically deserve respect.
Victor (NY)
Would the US put with this kind of "support for terrorism" from any other nation without responding with sanctions, reduced diplomatic relations or even threats of military response?

The Saudi's have been the home front of radical Wahhabism, most of the 9/11 attackers and bin Laden's Al Quada movement. We don't permit this because of cheap oil, we have contingency plans for that as a result of the embargo of 1973.

This is not conspiracy theory, these are purely rational choices made by governmental officials that have concluded that either this "nest of terrorist" supporters is not really harmful to US interests, or somehow it serves our broader strategic aims in the region.

Several possibilities make sense. One is that the US is giving the Saudi's enough rope to hang themselves, if and when we might decide to add one more nation to our "regime change" list.

We have supported all the Mid-East dictatorships, as long as they served our interests. Kadafi dismantled his nuclear ambitions, and then was toppled. Assad helped us with post 9/11 intelligence, but outlived his usefulness, after eastern Mediterranean gas deposits were discovered. And Saddam functioned as counter weight to Iran, but when that war ended was no longer needed. The Saudi support for radical insurgency is obvious and "justifies" our large military footprint in the region. My guess is the US is will allow this until they decide it's time for a change. Central Asian oil and gas may mark that point.
Tim (Birmingham, Al.)
Any and all conspiracies aside, 1 fact has always been with us, with EVERY gallon of gasoline you buy, some SMALL portion goes to fund radicals and their schools throughout the world. Osama Bin Laden was not the only radical rich offspring of the House of Saud.
Nako (Ann Arbor, MI)
As an American Citizen, and as a rational human, I feel ashamed that our government can publicly proclaim the Saudis as our "friends" and "allies".
Assad and Hussein sound like angels in comparison to the Saudi's!.
Let's recognize, that Al Quaeda and ISIL, are just Saudi's products of their own "Universities of Intolerance", their Wahhabi Mosques. And, they, and their supporters and surrogates should be held accountable.
Patrick Sorensen (San Francisco)
Dr. Naik seems to be a bigot. He couldn't judge bin Laden because he hadn't met him but it's ok to kill Americans. He also blames President Bush (W) for 911 but he hasn't met him either.

The most disturbing thing is the Saudi support.
Duckdodger (Oakville, ON)
His hypocrisies are blatant, doesn't want to judge Bin Laden because he had never met him but all too willing to judge and criticize western leaders who he has not met as well. Shame on Islam, the Saudis and all Islamic governments who not only allow this form of duplicitous xenophobia but honour and promote it.
Defiant (NYS)
There's a shocker. Could it POSSIBLY be that the Saudi's aren't our friends!?
Bob (Massachusetts)
And another example of who our "friends" are. Who needs enemies, when our friends give awards to lunatics?
LimestoneKid (Wallabout)
Tell me again why Saudi Arabia is our ally? Surely it has something to do with more than just oil.
H (North Carolina)
Ask the Bush dynasty.
Robert Dannin (New York, NY)
One of the best arguments for supporting a treaty with Iran. Like the Saudis they may not like us but can at least be cultivated as rational actors in a dangerous region.
sarai (ny, ny)
Let's hear again from apologists for "Islamic" terror how Islam is not violent and is not responsible for the actions of a few deranged terrorists. This award
presented by our "ally" should have gone to an influential figure that promotes peace tolerance and respect for other nations and their beliefs not to someone who preaches and inflames the opposite. The best thing we could do is step up the search for an alternative source of energy which will free us from dependence on our Middle Eastern "friends/allies" for oil.
Kevin (Binghamton NY)
Anyone who thinks 9-11 was an inside job is an idiot. That's all I need to know about him.
Rufo Quintavalle (Paris)
Conspiracy theories that seem outlandish to us are common currency for a variety of Islamic thinkers, even those who present themselves as moderate. The same goes for anti-Semitism. Check out Yusuf al-Qaradawi's comments on the Jews or Tariq Ramadan's claims that the Charlie Hebdo murders were a false flag operation mounted by the French State (7:00 onwards in video below).

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/02/sheikh-qaradawi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-LMIjWCDVg

Qaradawi's program on Al Jazeera is watched by 60 million people, Ramadan is a professor at Oxford University. Why is it surprising that Saudi Arabia should offer an award to someone whose opinions merely reflect that of mainstream Islamic thought?
alan (out west)
our good friends, the Saudis
Malone (Tucson, AZ)
Most posters write how Saudi Arabia is not our friend. There is a different point altogether. Please google this Zakir Naik and go his website or listen to his various talks on youtube. He is a nutcase. He argues that thousands of years before Mohammed Hindu scriptures and mythologies (Puranas) had predicted the coming of the prophet of Islam. He compares all other religions (in particular Hinduism, while giving the lecture in India) to the education a high school student receives, while Islam is comparable to the education that a graduate student receives and justifies one-way conversions.

The guy is not merely a bigot, he is a fool. By giving him this award the Saudis have proved what kind of intellectual midgets they are. If they want to sock it to the other faiths, they should at least find a more educated person.
Duckdodger (Oakville, ON)
To you a fool, to millions of others he resonates and by his honor from the Saudis he is promoted.
Ichigo Makoto (Linden)
And yet, for all practical matter, Saudi Arabia is US's closest friend, US's most intimate friend.
Niall Firinne (London)
Saudi Arabia's actions makes you really wonder about them and their view of reality, politically, religiously and geographically. With "friends" like them, lets build as many nuclear power plants, wind farms, solar parks, biofuels plants, waste to energy plants, tidal energy facilities etc as quickly and soon as possible. All those who claim that Islam is about peace and tolerance must be very embarrassed with this news. Certainly the Saudis don't believe a word of it!
John Roberson (mcAllen)
The reason for the September 11 attacks was simply to bring attention to the number that America was and has been using since 1968 for its panic attack line on help situations. It was inevitable that it was going to happen and the terrorists planned it on that day just to make a point and we are reminded of that date so many time each day on ambulances, on calls we make, on a lot of things. It was not planned, per se by the Bush administration, it was planned by the terrorists to remind us of a date we created: 911.
ACW (New Jersey)
Aside from agreeing with the comments that ask rhetorically, 'and Saudi Arabia is our *friend*?!" I will note two things.
One: Naik is not 'conservative'; he is radical. He wants to raze the modern world and rebuild from the root (Latin, radix => radical) up.
Two: In so preaching, he is not doing a 'service' to Islam, but making his brand of it the enemy of millions who would be willing to coexist with Islam but not with Islamism (which will not coexist with them - its goal is worldwide theocracy). He is setting up and promoting a war of cultures.
Three: Much of the content of Naik's diatribes is not all that different from posts by some of the loopier 'progressives' on these very same NYT comment threads. Every single one - the 'Protocols'-style accusation that rich Jews control everything; the absurd claim that 9/11 was an 'inside job'; the identification of the US as the sole root of all evil - the only one I can think of to exclude is Naik's claim that his brand of Islam is so persuasive that in debate he has converted Hindus, Christians, and atheists on the spot. There is never any shortage of what Lenin called 'useful idiots'.
(My own views are not easily categorised nor doctrinaire. I once called myself 'liberal' till the company I found myself keeping forced me to change to 'progressive'. The same thing happened with 'progressive'. I now take what refuge I can find in 'independent'.)
ACW (New Jersey)
Pardon, should have changed 'two' to 'three' in first graf. As Einstein once said: 'Oops!' (I'm sure he said it at some point.)
Devasis Chowdhury (Bangalore,India)
Dr Zakir Naik is simply an Islamic fanatic.
His speeches generally demean other religions .
I have heard him speak but he comes across as an illiterate in comparative religion.
The West condemns Saudi Arabia but the Defence industries of USA! UK live on their charity.
Samsara (The West)
People can be judged by the company they keep and the friends they have. The same is true for countries.

Has the United States of America ever met a dictator it didn't like, as long as said dictator (no matter how brutal) had something our leaders wanted?
Bob (Nashville)
Why does the US continue to call Saudi Arabia an ally? Saudi Arabia would keep selling us oil regardless because without sales its oil is worthless. We criticize many nations for their human rights violations and turn a blind eye to countries like Saudi Arabia. This is a country whose citizens have funded terrorism across the world. This is a country who discriminates and punishes women. Women can not even drive a car. This is a country that still practices barbarism in the treatment of criminals such as public beheadings. Where do you think ISIS gets its ideas? An ally? Has the US sold its soul for oil?
Issywise (Florida)
Saudi Arabia has been exporting oil and hate for three quarters of a century. The whole region is aflame now. Israel and Saudi Arabia share blame for that development. The former wishes only to keep the conflict pot boiling so it can continue to expand its eventual national borders. The latter just hates out of religious duty.

Some allies?
Michael (North Carolina)
Saudi Arabia keeps oil prices down, provides us with an ally against Iran and we're going to split hairs over their radical views and support of terrorists?

Seriously, anyone who is surprised by this should read up on the (short) history of Saudi Arabia. Islamic fundamentalism is the bedrock of their society and the source of their government's power. This can be good as well as bad, and so far I think their stability has helped the world more than it has hurt. I mean, if you don't ask the people who died in the 9/11 attacks, or the 7/7 bombings in London, or the war in Afghanistan (the latest one) which has cost well over 25,000 lives, both military and civilian.
Patrick Sorensen (San Francisco)
How can we ignore the victims? 911 was almost all Saudis. The start up money for ISIS/ISIL/IR or whatever they call themselves was primarily Saudi money.
It's time the Saudis fess up, quit funding monsters, and learn how to get along with the Shiites.
Ira Gold (West Hartford, CT)
What will it take to finally recognize that Saudi Arabia is not our friend. Never has been and never will be. Does not share our values and never will. We are just a place to do great business with, because our business class wants access to their vast sums of money. American banks and businesses that do business with this country are doing business with our enemy. An enemy who spreads worldwide hatred of the United States. And who paid for and committed the attack on 9/11.
peteowl (rural Massachusetts)
Dead god, could we just hurry up and convert to renewable energy sources so we can let Saudi Arabia retreat back into its normal third world, backward, barbaric self? Only oil money forces us to call SA an ally. It is, in fact, an enemy of enlightenment, civil rights, and just about everything that America is supposed to stand for, and it is the primary funder of religious, fundamentalist terrorism.
doughboy (Wilkes-Barre, PA)
That Saudi Arabia applauded Dr. Naik should not come as a surprise. Riyadh has done this before, and worse. Whenever an American official acknowledges Saudi involvement with inciting or funding or arming radicals, our political leaders do a two-step to smooth relations. The very fact that our nation ignored the march for freedom in Paris in the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo attack, but sent a high level delegation to the funeral of the Saudi king reveals volumes about what our country really stands for in the international community. Sadly, the belief that we support democracy and are willing to spend our money and send our troops in its defense is undercut by the reality that the control of oil is at the root of our foreign policy. We subvert those nations that challenge that goal.
Ephraim (Baltimore)
How sadly true. How succinctly articulated.
Jon Harrison (Poultney, VT)
This is just more evidence of the fact that Saudi Arabia is an enemy of the United States. There is an alliance of convenience that the Saudi royal family wants to maintain, but otherwise Saudi society is through-and-through anti-American. We really need to recognize the danger that Saudi Arabia presents.
Marc Nicholson (Washington, DC)
This is yet another example of the "double game" played on us for decades by a Saudi Arabian government which upholds extremist religion (because that is the sole source of the monarchy's legitimacy) while "playing nice" with us to save them from Shiite Iran and (more recently) Sunni extremists gone wild in ISIS. We need to face the Saudi monarchy with a choice: for us or against us. Europe may need their oil, but we no longer do. Time for truth-teling and a choice.
VIOLET BLUES (India)
Any man who can preach trash specially against Christ,Christians & the West is a sure shot winner of the King Faisal International Award.
Dr Zakir Naik is a half baked preacher whose airy statements are totally devoid of facts.Totally!
He excels in playing to the ignorant masses,who lap his words as truth.
Another winner of this award was the demagogue Ahmed Deedat whose Venom filled insinuation deemed him perfectly fit for the Prize.
Gareth Andrews (New York)
While it's not that difficult to understand the complicated policy positions of Saudi Arabia (i.e. justify them), let's remember that the American President bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia.
Indian in US (NY)
This guy is never given coverage in news media in India. If he's so famous....I have never heard about him. I hope the government is monitoring his internet postings for any statements that may influence muslims to be violent. That being said, the Saudi head of state's public honor of him reinforces the belief that it is the chief sponsor of ideology that promotes fundamental islam that influences its adherents to be militant.
Joseph Huben (Upstate NY)
Dr. Naik is a Wahhabi, Sunni who advocates killing apostates, which means Shia. The King of Saudi Arabia, punctuates his country's culpability in the crimes of Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the Taliban. Americans on the hook with Saudi Arabia make noise about the complexity of the Middle East. We are not fooled. America tolerates despots, "royal" persons, oppression, slavery, the indoctrination of young people by fanatics with both feet set in the 7th century, supporters, funders, protectors of terrorist Sunni Wahhabi because we want cheap oil. No, I must clarify. There are powerful interests, corporations, politicians, academicians, who are intent in keeping America and the west hooked on oil. Expressed plainly by Bush, despite the fact that Al Qaeda and Bin Laden is Sunni, Wahhabi, of Saudi origin Bush/Cheney/Abrams redirected American focus on Shia, on Iran and Syria at the behest of Saudi Arabia and Israel. Both of these allies are allied in the portrayal of events as Iranian, as Shia despite all of the evidence that 9/11, that Al Qaeda, that ISIS is unequivocally a Sunni atrocity advocated by Dr Naik and rewarded and encouraged by King Salman. Today Netanyahu will propagandize our Congress to portray Iran as the enemy, the source of terror all the while allied with Saudi extremists. Amazing, Dr Naik denounces Jews and America, and Netanyahu speaks not about ISIS, Al Qaeda or the source of terror in America, but instead Iran.
Cader (Mauritius)
Under the name of combating terrorism and promoting western democracy, America and its allies have been killing Muslims all around the world and the number now exceeds one million dead. And Obama says that he is not fighting Islam. Who has he been killing in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan? Who has been supporting the killings of Muslims in Republic of Central Africa, Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Caneroon. What is the link between containing Islam and the alliance with Modi from India?
littleninja2356 (UK)
The hypocrisy of American and Western foreign policy who sells arms to the regime that obeys the Wahibists to keep itself in situ.
The Saudi's speak with fork tongue allowing donors to fund terrorists, flog bloggers, stone people to death, ad nauseam all in the name of oil.
Mohammed Askari Chandoo (New York, NY)
It boggles the mind that we continue to coddle those very people who have caused us harm and whose ideology continues to do. No more trading our values and blood for oil.
stu freeman (brooklyn NY)
Still more evidence of Saudi duplicity. Al-Qaeda's leaders admitted- jubilantly- that they were responsible for the 9/11 attacks in which a number of Saudi citizens directly participated. I guess that confession doesn't quite register with malicious bigots like Naik and, by extension, King Salman. In any case, the U.S. needs to break free of its dependence on Saudi oil in order that we can finally feel free to tell these people what they can do with themselves.
Yeziam12 (Texas)
Since we are talking frankly here...I wouldn't give two shakes of a goat's tail for his opinions.
Kali (California)
Death to the US is so lazy, dated and hackneyed - I'm surprised Dr. Naik is still finding an audience with those views. I do hope he has something to say about the barbaric methods of ISIS, or closer to home, the thousands of deaths brought about by the Pakistani and Afghani terrorists. I won't be holding my breath.
Sandra Garratt (Palm Springs, California)
Dr Naik is all about selling his CDs and seminars and is clearly not a man of God…listen to him speak,no love there, he is a dangerous hate monger who spreads mis-information and seems to think that women need to be quiet, do as they are told and know their place. I don't think it is acceptable for Muslims to rewrite history and tell Christians & Jews & Hindus what their religions are really about due to his natural superiority as a Muslim. That seems a bold step to rewrite the belief systems of others. More "My way or the highway".
Andrew W (Florida)
Unfortunately, politics are linked to economics. As long as we are dependent on Saudi oil we must continue the charade of calling Saudi Arabia our ally. The sooner we become independent of OPEC oil the sooner we can call a spade a spade.
Jon Harrison (Poultney, VT)
But we are independent of Saudi oil now. By next year we should achieve complete energy self-sufficiency. The oil that we still import today comes mostly from Mexico, Canada, and West Africa.
Joan Vesper (San Diego, CA)
We were never dependent on Saudi oil. We could always buy oil from other places, like Nigeria, Venezuela, Indonesia, Iran. Maybe certain of our oil companies preferred to deal with Saudis because of personal connections. Or maybe the reason our leaders said we needed Saudi oil was to keep us involved in the Middle East for the sake of Israel.
Andrew W (Florida)
The oil market is still dominated by the Saudis regardless of who we actually buy it from. Simply look at the collapse in oil prices worldwide when the Saudis decided not to curtail production. Until we don't need to purchase oil from any other country we are still beholden to the Saudis.
Joshua Schwartz (Ramat-Gan, Israel)
The website of the Islamic Research Foundation which Dr. Naik heads states that the foundation seeks to spread "the proper presentation, understanding, and appreciation of Islam".

On Osama bin Laden: "if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist".

How fitting that he received the award for "service to Islam" from Saudi Arabia. Good start for King Salman.
Roy (Medford OR)
So apparently Saudi Arabia thinks Islam is well served by people like this. I would defer to their expertise on this point.
Bob Bunsen (Portland, OR)
I suspect the Saudi royal family thinks that the Saudi royal family is well served by people like this, but I could be way too cynical about this issue.
THEYKNEWWHATWOULDHAPPEN (NJ)
They tell us they are friends of America but I'm finding that hard to believe. First they say have a nice day and then they punch you in the face.
R.Kenney (Oklahoma)
When are we going to stop this charade with S. A. It is time we severed out links with these people, they do nothing for the interests of the U. S. They are closet terrorists.
Ephraim (Baltimore)
I think we ought to remember just how generous we have been with sophisticated weaponry before we spit in their soup. I do not look forward with glee to more American kids facing American weapons in the hands of lunatics.
Bill (Medford, OR)
With friends like these, who needs enemies?